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sup dudes, remember the guys who made Genius of Sappheiros (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10472.0.html)? Well they released a new game this comiket, Touhou Gensoumaroku ~ The Devil of Decline. It was their PROJECT SHIKIGAMI, and, well, just as it states, one of the main striking points of the game is what I gathered to be some kind of wacky Shikigami system. In actuality, the Shikigami system is basically wherein you may attach certain Touhou characters and some OCs to assist your main party. Every main party member and every Shikigami member has level and can gain the EXP. As far as I know, people you assign as Shikigami can also be part of fighting force. As you may have 5 members out on the field at once, each member having 3 Shikigami attach to them, you may have as many as 20 people in battle at once! That's kind of nice.
I think it's an incredible departure from their first foray with Genius of Sappheiros and I really look forward to actually sitting down and playing this monstrous (in a very awesome way) game.
Support strawberry-bose!
http://www.gensoukyou.org/
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As you may have 5 members out on the field at once, each member having 3 Shikigami attach to them, you may have as many as 20 people in battle at once! That's kind of nice.
Isn't 5 times 3 15?
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Sounds interesting, I haven't played GoS yet (still on my to-do list), and this might be another great game. So the gameplay is still similar to GoS, just have more units via Shikigami? Have some sample screenies?
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Isn't 5 times 3 15?
Did you forget the five members you have out on the battlefield? :derp:
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Did you forget the five members you have out on the battlefield? :derp:
Ya okay, how did I miss that. -_-
So yea apparently we had some massive bugs that have necessitated patches already. Something about Yuyuko duplicating herself by eating the other characters.
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So yea apparently we had some massive bugs that have necessitated patches already. Something about Yuyuko duplicating herself by eating the other characters.
lolwut
Also, to people who might be scared off due to GoS's (Their first game) difficulty, the translated notes about this game state that it's meant to be much easier then GoS was.
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So yea apparently we had some massive bugs that have necessitated patches already. Something about Yuyuko duplicating herself by eating the other characters.
Well... considering who is on their coding staff... :derp:
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Sounds hilarious. I hope this game isn't too based on drop farming :ohdear:
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So, anyone figure the effects of the various last words yet? I mean some are really obvious.
Reimu: Heals
Youmu: Slashing
Marisa: Reduce everything to dust and ashes.
Utsuho: Reduce everything to radioactive dust and ashes.
Patchouli: Reduce everything to dust, ashes, icepops, and whatever else Patchy can think up.
But some like Mokou's are halfway obvious, I mean it rezes characters, but it also appears to apply some sort of buff as well. And I have absolutely no idea what Yukari's does.
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I dunno, in the last game Marisa's last word was to make all spells cost 1 mana.
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From what I've read, you can choose your initial protagonist between four people (Reimu, Yukari, Meiling, Byakuren) and they start with different allies (It seems like you get at least some of the other allies later in though). Iunno about other differences between them. Surprisingly, Sunny Milk is one of the playable characters. As in, not a shikigami.
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Meiling
Shut up and take m(ry
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I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask this, but...
I was interested in uploading this game's BGM. I don't know moon, but I wanted to extract (or acquire some other way) DoD's songs. Has anyone ideas how to accomplish that? Help would be very appreciated
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I find it odd that this game actually crashes when run under Applocale, yet works fine without it. I also find it odd that the only way to get out of the settings from the main title is to reset the game.
Anyway, I finally have it running, but I'm not sure how to patch it. Rather, the website gives 2 links and they seem slightly different from each other. Any reason for that?
Edit: Is it also normal that you are only able to choose Reimu's path in the beginning of the game?
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Well, to be honest...
Turns out it's a bug with the controls that "sets" the B button to the Escape button. Yes, for some reason, that one is somehow the B key despite the config setting saying otherwise.
You see, there's a temporary fix to fix it so that the X key (Which should be the B button) actually counts as the B button and NOT Escape. "How do you do this "temporary fix", rizul98?", you guys ask.
Press F1. Yes, seriously, pressing F1 once anywhere even on the title screen 'temporarily fixes' this issue so that the X key now functions as the B button properly. Go have an easier time canceling out of everything. Although I said temporary fix because if you quit/reset, it reverses the function BACK TO THE ESCAPE KEY. Still a tad annoying but much better than having no way to revert the Escape button at all.
Yes, I spent some time last night figuring why the Escape key was functioning like the B button in certain menus such as the formations menu despite the X key being clearly LABELED the B button.
Also, Syanas, there should have been a 1.00 -> 1.02 patch that is 200 MB big on the website and is clearly labeled as such. Run that one because you do not want bugs like "Yuyuko somehow dupes herself via eating characters". :V
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Game crashes for me right after character selection. I had the same issue with GoS :/
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Have you tried all the usual methods? Applocale, Japanese local settings, setting compatibility to WIndows 95, etc.
After character selection should just be more dialogue with the same lens flashing stuff from the beginning of GoS. Maybe it has to do with your video drivers?
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In addition to the usual things, which Syana brought up (Most notably having Jap locales and trying various compatibilities) I remember in GoS the initial solution for that crash was "Set the settings to 16bit color instead of 32bit"
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Most likely video drivers. I'll just have to secure a better machine to play it.
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I'm currently doing a blind playthrough, so I'm translating stuff along the way. If you want to discuss translations sooner or later, I'm up for it.
Last Words
Reimu - [Hakurei Healing Barrier] Same as GoS, heals the entire party.
Marisa - [Master Spark] A piercing type attack, Master Spark. More powerful than normal spells. Damage is boosted as its user levels up.
Youmu - [Eternal Slash] A 6 hit slash attack, dealing around 3x her normal damage overall. Damage is boosted as its user levels up.
Mokou - [Phoenix Resurrection] Revives any dead characters, and casts Reraise on currently living ones.
Okuu - [Mega Flare] Hits all enemies for about the same damage as Master Spark. Damage is boosted as its user levels up.
Nitori - [Perfect Camouflage] Buffs the party with a one time barrier that nulls damage.
Yuuka - [Flowering Defense] Nulls all physical damage for your party for a single turn.
Patchouli - [Philosopher's Stone] Inflicts non elemental damage to the entire enemy party. Damage is boosted as its user levels up.
Sanae - [Yasaka's Divine Wind] Same as GoS, boosts all stats for your entire party.
Sunny Milk - [Fatal Flash] Inflicts Stun at 100% chance to the entire enemy party.
Eiki - [Last Judgement] Inflicts non elemental damage to the entire enemy party. Will not work on certain enemies. Fixed 666 damage.
Yuyuko - [Resurrection Butterfly] Inflicts Instant Death to the entire enemy party. Will not work against resistant enemies.
About Formations
This time, there's a bar discerning each character in a formation. This bar represents the chance that they will be targeted in battle.
Free Fight - Same as in GoS, no special bonuses.
Solitude - The person in the front gets Patk, Pdef, and Speed bonuses, but has a very high chance of being targeted.
All for One - The rear character gains bonuses to Patk and Matk and is less likely to be targeted.
Twin Shield - The characters in the front act as a shield for the rear, with bonuses to Pdef.
Triple Wall - The characters in the front act as a shield for the rear, with bonuses to Pdef.
Crane's Wing Formation - The characters in the front get a bonus to their Patk, while the character in the rear gets a Pdef bonus and is rarely targeted.
Fish's Scale Formation - The characters in the front get a bonus to their Patk and Speed.
Hakurei Type - Slightly different from GoS, the characters in the front get a bonus to Patk, the character in the middle gets a Pdef bonus and acts as bait, but the rear gets a bonus in Speed instead of Matk.
Double Attacker - The characters in front get a bonus to Patk, and the characters in rear get a bonus to Speed.
Crescent - The characters in the front and middle get a bonus to Patk and Speed.
Suprise - The characters in the middle get a bonus to Speed, while the characters in the rear get a bonus to Matk.
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Thanks Syanas! It's curious that matk bonuses seem quite uncommon.
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Despite the rarity, it seems the bonuses are actually quite influential, at least in the beginning of the game. I'm noticing a pretty large difference in numbers with attack and defense formations. Currently using the Hakurei Type and the damage for the characters in the front seem to have been boosted a good 8-12 damage over their usual 15-20 damage.
Edit: I've also noticed that the target rates for each character in a formation isn't very different. Even in extreme formations where some characters are very likely to be hit versus characters that are very unlikely to get hit, the chances are still about the same.
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Wow that is a huge boost.
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So uh, I used the 1.02x patch but after opening the game it says I'm on version 1.01. Is that normal?
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So uh, I used the 1.02x patch but after opening the game it says I'm on version 1.01. Is that normal?
Yeah same here. Although I can't get the game to stop freezing at start up now (freezes immediately upon starting up now).
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So uh, I used the 1.02x patch but after opening the game it says I'm on version 1.01. Is that normal?
Might be, I have the same thing.
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I'm starting to run into some crashing problems in this game now too. Not sure if it's just me but I'll try to run through the scene again.
Edit: Yeah, it's crashing at a particular point in the game, after a boss scene. Guess I'll have to skip the event.
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Yes, the whole 1.02 patch giving 1.01 in the game version even though it should be 1.02 is the same for me as well.
And for anyone who had to go through the hell of getting every skill for Satori in GoS, they changed how that works. Now you hunt monster shikigamis once you have Satori equipped and have much, much higher chances to get monster shikigamis than a lot of the 1% skill learn chance crazy events that went on in GoS. Yes, you can have the HDD monster shikigami and be able to use its HDD crash attack. :V
Also, I haven't run into any crash problems yet. Which is weird, since this is by the same people who made GoS, which certain people had some real bad problems with.
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I hit a wall after fighting
Yuuka
. Skipping the event fixed it, but since it's one of the main boss battles, I feel like I missed some important information.
Edit: Also, is there supposed to be nothing in the Bamboo forest? I reached a room near the end that seemed to be devoid of anything except for some sunlight and some flowers.
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Edit: Also, is there supposed to be nothing in the Bamboo forest? I reached a room near the end that seemed to be devoid of anything except for some sunlight and some flowers.
That's were you get Mokou if you don't start with her.
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It seems like most people picked Reimu to start, as I suspected. I decided to go with Byakuren just to see what was up.
So a couple notes:
-4 out of the 5 starting shikigamis are identical: Wriggle, Minoriko, Letty, and Rumia (the order you get them in seems to be different)
-Byakuren's unique shikigami is Ichirin, who gets physical elemental attacks (and just recently she learned Lance Chaser)
Her starting party members are Byakuren, Remilia, Yuyuko (final boss party whatup), then Sunny Milk and Sanae.
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I simply wasn't able to pick any other starting character, unless I forgot to try the L and R buttons as well.
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Ah, weird. The whole b/x/whatever fiasco just made me pull out my PS3 controller and play the game with that, which bypassed the issues entirely.
Oh, and I just accidentally wandered into Yuuka
. You didn't miss anything, just a few incidental lines of dialogue and her joining. Only semi-important looking thing was the clock ticking upwards to 1:00
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e: and behind that was an area with a new battle theme. I get the distinct feeling I've wandered into an area beyond my level. Not having any indication of where I should be going is kind of annoying. I think I actually preferred GoS's more structured layout, though I can appreciate this style too.
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The funny thing about the starting teams is all of them reuse one, two, or three party members and plenty of shikigamis are reused as well. Only one Shikigami is unique for each path and they can be gotten later anyways.
Reimu's Path:
Reimu (Starter: Komachi)
Marisa (Starter: Letty)
Youmu (Starter: Minoriko)
Mokou (Starter: Rumia)
Utsuho (Starter: Wriggle)
Yukari's Path:
Yukari (Starter: Chen)
Patchouli (Starter: Rumia)
Youmu (Starter: Minoriko)
Utsuho (Starter: Wriggle)
Yuyuko (Starter: Letty)
Byakuren's Path:
Byakuren (Starter: Ichirin)
Remilia (Starter: Wriggle)
Yuyuko (Starter: Letty)
Sunny Milk (Starter: Rumia)
Sanae (Minoriko)
Meiling's Path:
Meiling (Starter: Tewi)
Sanae (Starter: Minoriko)
Mokou (Starter: Rumia)
Nitori (Starter: Wriggle)
Sunny Milk (Starter: Letty)
Like I said, they reused so many characters. No, these aren't really major spoilers unless you really don't want to know the starting teams considering you can view all of them up to the fifth final starting members. And yes, all characters not in your main party actually do show up later in certain spots.
Also, I was able to choose the other starting characters, too, Syanas. Try doing F1 to see if it fixes glitchy controls, then start a new game and skip most of the opening. You're stuck waiting out the last part with Reimu before the title screen shows up, though, and the skip key doesn't work there. See if f1 worked for you in fixing the can't choose starting character problem.
I must repeat the last thing - F1 fixed the b button but only temporarily - apparently f1 is check gamepad/key button.
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Well I'm already far enough into the game that it would probably matter a bit if I restarted now. And besides, I don't mind my current setup anyway. I'll keep that in mind for if I want to try a new starter though.
Edit: I find it interesting how they changed treasure chests. Silver ones no longer need keys to open them, instead they contain recipes. And the treasure chest sprites from the GoS expansion now require a code input from the title screen to be unlocked.
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Actually, that makes me wonder: is there any huge point to different characters? Skills are largely tied to shikigamis, and the ones that aren't are apparently learned by just attacking over and over (as far as I can tell). The only thing that really seems to set characters apart is their stats, and Last Words.
Unless characters actually do learn unique skills eventually, and I just haven't gotten far enough to learn any.
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Not to mention ALL characters start at level 1 when they join up with you. Which becomes somewhat a pain in the ass grinding up everyone. However, the shikigamis are fine since they're not actual main party characters and just skill sets/stats boosters with passives that can improve as you level AND you can equip 3 per main character. Main characters that use up the actual party slot, on the other hand? You have to put one of your already trained characters away just to grind up the said character who may not be able to use most shikigami skills due to low MP until sufficient levels in shikigamis and/or main characters are achieved.
That's kind of something I wished to see changed, but apparently isn't. However, the differing stats kind of becomes a problem - Okuu doesn't start with any other shikigamis other than Wriggle, which relies on inflicting various status problems. And apparently is prone to dying every other battle, at least for me.
Also, only one pre-order code may be used per game, so you're stuck with one pre-order shikigami until you change the code to another of these shikigamis. In an act of mercy, the old shikigami keeps its level, which means if you grinded up the shikigami, it doesn't weaken itself instantly.
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Took Meiling for Tewi starter. I have no idea what's going on in the dialogues but it looks hilarious :V
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The level 1 characters catch up pretty fast, actually. I'm not exactly sure how exp is calculated in this game (it seems to differ slightly in battle as well, probably depending on the amount of damage each character dealt), but when I got Nitori, my party was level 7ish, and Nitori pretty much caught up by the time everyone was level 11. If you really intend on using the same 5 people over and over, let me remind you that the creators of this game liked splitting up your members into 2 or even 3 groups at a time. There's really no harm in grinding new characters when you get them, because it's really not that hard at all.
In terms of stats, they do sort of matter a lot. Especially the HP and MP, some characters are simply falling behind on them, and so their survival rate isn't very high. They don't even seem to have much of other stats to redeem said drawbacks, and so I left them in the roster as soon as I got some new characters. I do agree that what character you use makes little point, as Last Words don't activate incredibly often, and other than that they have no special qualities in battle.
In fact, there is a lot of advantage in using the same 5 characters over and over again. The more characters use their weapons in battle, the more they master them and learn new skills. I'm sure there's an upper limit somewhere, but my Youmu's got her 5th sword skill, which has a slayer effect against Angels and Demons, and with each skill she learns, the more bonus stats she gains from equipping a sword. I'm sure that given enough grinding, a single character could "master" all 4 weapon types in the game. 3, actually, because I don't think using a staff gives you any special skills to learn. However, the skills you learn and the stats that go with them only apply to the weapon type, so you can't just blend them all together, unfortunately. I have a sneaking suspicion though, that characters that are using weapons that are not their specialty will not be able to learn all of the skills that go with the weapon type. I'll have to do some testing to make sure.
The characters I left behind are Mokou, Nitori, and Okuu
, and my current active party is Reimu, Marisa, Youmu, Yuuka, and Patchouli
. I've cleared the entire top strata aside from the inside of the tower, and I have the following Shikigami: Komachi, Letty, Rumia, Wriggle, Minoriko, Mystia, Aya, Orin, Lunasa, Merlin, Lyrica, and that princess thing that you get from an event
. I'm wondering if there's anyone I'm missing.
I also found some sort of event item that looked like a glowing Suppository. I thought it would be an event for Reisen, but apparently not. Any idea what it does?
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My first thought was that it was the Hook item, but apparently not since I still can't cross those gaps.
Earlier on I encountered Orin and a red demon dude possessing her
but I got my ass handed and then completely lost track of where that happened. The wasteland areas all kind of blend together until you get a good feel for them. Actually, I could probably beat it by now, I'd think...
Other than that, the only shikigami I'm missing I think is Aya
so far. Haven't encountered her yet, but then I've been spending most of my time getting completely lost, so that might be why.
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Information everyone should know, as I spent pretty much the entirety of the First Strata not knowing it. If you press W you can open a map, then if you click on an area of the map, you can warp to parts of that area you've been too before.
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If there's one thing about this game I don't like, it's the fact that I have to make a list of places I've fully cleared (as in, made every single map entirely visible and walked through all the yellow portals). So if I end up stopping halfway somewhere, I'll have to spend a while trying to remember where I've been and where I should be headed.
The only boss I had trouble with was the one guarding the tower, and I found out that trying to brute force it wasn't the answer. It's actually quite easy otherwise, if you can keep your MP reserves up.
The demon bosses usually have 2 weaknesses, one to light, and to another element. If you know what those weaknesses are, it's that much easier.
Here's a tip if you've been traversing every single map and getting completely lost: Pressing the pause button outside of dungeons (like in the tower) opens up the world map, and you're able to select any area you've visited before and go there instantly. You're also able to select which portal you've used to enter said area! Note that doing this also respawns all the mobs in every map.
Also, for those of you that think they've completed the entire first strata: Is there a big gray box in the center of your map? I'm not sure if anything's there, but I'd like to know for sure.
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Well, the hook is not on the first landmass.
In fact, it's in a chest in the second landmass somewhere.
Syanas, that doesn't look to me like you found all shikigamis on this land that can be gotten without the hooks. In fact, you're missing Hina. Go search for her in the area to the left of the tower on the world map.
Battler, go search the area to the left of where you found the first hook spot. Aya
is in that area somewhere.
Also yeah, the W key is absolutely important in saving massive travel times that I somehow forgot to mention it until now.
However, I notice little benefit to the elemental levels, if there's supposed to be any benefit to getting these leveled up.
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If
Hina
's the only one I'm missing, I must've done a decent job for a blind run. However, if you're talking about the left side, do you mean the desert or the plains? I'm almost positive she's not in the desert, but I know I didn't find anyone in the plains.
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I meant the
forest area
, since Hina
is not in either area. You'll understand why when you get there. Although I should've mentioned it was near the leftmost tower, oops.
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Actually, I don't think the world map (which I've got mapped to R2 like a boss) lets you teleport to every area. Or at least, it feels like I've visited more areas than are listed. That said, I imagine nothing's ever too far out of the way, but it's still annoying trying to remember which exits I've taken and which I've yet to explore.
Thanks for the tip about Aya
I'll go check around there.
Just beat the blue demon dude (whose name I forgot to write not, it's really weird sounding though). Fuck quick status effects, it's like "say, do you want to actually do stuff this turn? TOO BAD". At least the damage isn't too bad. Remilia with Unzan's fire fist was dealing enough damage to outpace the guy, so it all worked out in the end.
e: Haha oh wow, turns out I explored the entire area except for the map with Aya
in it. Freaking game...
e2: Same deal with Hina
. Figures!
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Ah, I found her. It was quite scary, actually, I scanned this room before and didn't see anything. So I went back and suddenly I flinched when I saw her floating in the trees :3
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Alright, now I'm faaairly sure I've gotten all the Shikigami's and characters available.
Next is deciding where to go - I could either head down from where Yuuka
was, or up from the tower blue guy was guarding.
e: Oh wait, gotta find Rin
again. Damnit, where was she...
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That reminds me, what would RES stand for in japanese?
Because I laugh at Battler's post about the tower blue guy boss. Although to be honest, the irony is that Lyrica apparently gets a RES buff as she levels up.
e: Rin
is in the first numbered desert area.
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Yeah, I found her pretty easily this time.
Henenkun
I believe the red guy's name is, though I forgot to actually try to remember it. As I suspected, he was pretty easy with my overlevelled characters. A Lingering Frost from Byakuren/Letty took off over a third of his HP.
Putting some RES-boosting equipment probably would have been smart though, yeah. Ultimately it only took me two tries though, and the first time he obliterated me before I even got to see how much of a pain that was. Oh well!
e: How strange. The minimap in that area suggests there should be an exit at the north end, but there isn't one, even after the battle.
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About that certain exit, apparently it leads to the middle area which is inaccessible at the moment until a certain event occurs. Sorry, you'll have to wait for the payoff on that exit.
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Fair enough. Until then, I'm exploring what I assume is Hakugyokuro, or at least all the zombie enemies and cherry blossom trees would suggest as much. Annoyingly, it seems to be quite maze-like.
e: Woah what. Random Kisume
encounter. Seems to be mini-boss level. I wonder if that's fixed, or if that can always just happen at random in this area.
e2: Holy christ I got wrecked. Two attacks per turn, buffs atk/def and debuffs the same, plus full-party Silence. Was not expecting that.
e3: Yep, definitely a random encounter. Thinking I should go to some other places, because I am getting demolished pretty handily here.
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Fair enough. Until then, I'm exploring what I assume is Hakugyokuro, or at least all the zombie enemies and cherry blossom trees would suggest as much. Annoyingly, it seems to be quite maze-like.
e: Woah what. Random Kisume
encounter. Seems to be mini-boss level. I wonder if that's fixed, or if that can always just happen at random in this area.
e2: Holy christ I got wrecked. Two attacks per turn, buffs atk/def and debuffs the same, plus full-party Silence. Was not expecting that.
She is random, you can only get her when you get Satori
. Who you get after beating either the 2nd tower boss or any tower boss not sure.
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Yeah, gave up on Hakugokyuro and I'm instead heading up the tower. The random encounter theme here is completely fucking amazing.
e: Just noticed something - my Yuuka
has "learned" Missile Weapon (a spear skill) several times now, even though she already has it. It's not really a bad thing since it basically means she busts out a stronger-than-usual attack occasionally, but I wonder what's up with that.
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However, I notice little benefit to the elemental levels, if there's supposed to be any benefit to getting these leveled up.
The elemental levels primarily determine your damage with that element, including weapons, go switch a character from one weapon type to another she has never used and you'll find you will gain way less attack. For instance, my Yukari has used spears the enitire game never once using blunt, Swtiching from a spear with 21 attack, to a axe with 36, she gains one extra attack point.
They also might determine what skills you can learn with that weapon.
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Oh christ the tower is a water raising/lowering puzzle, with switches spread across multiple rooms. You'd think, considering that I played LoT blind, that this wouldn't bother me, but... damnit I already wish there was a walkthrough.
e: at least the stage and battle themes here are great
e2: Wow. For being such a fuck up in-character, I was not expecting Xa (is that how you spell her name?) to completely destroy me like she did.
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The elemental levels primarily determine your damage with that element, including weapons, go switch a character from one weapon type to another she has never used and you'll find you will gain way less attack. For instance, my Yukari has used spears the enitire game never once using blunt, Swtiching from a spear with 21 attack, to a axe with 36, she gains one extra attack point.
They also might determine what skills you can learn with that weapon.
Would the fastest way to level elemental levels happen to be hitting weaknesses on enemies as usual, then? Because I might test this battle with the tower blue guy, although that guy has high POT, to compare how much of a gain the elemental levels give me on magic.
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Bell of Avici -> Retrospective Kyoto -> Bad Apple...? I don't understand :v
Anyway, I still have too many traumas from GoS to be able to go up the tower, and I've just gotten to the third strata... I'm probably making a mistake somewhere. Maybe I should give it another try, the enemies in there didn't seem hard at all when I gave it a test run.
I'm enjoying the game so far, the main difference from GoS is that now instead of having to complete entire dungeons (GIVE ME BACK MY 12 HOURS OF LIFE, GREAT TEMPLE) I have to explore every single thing everywhere and as such I can't stop playing. Aargh. Now, time to revisit every area because these event items might have unlocked something... sigh. go to hell ocd
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Oh christ the tower is a water raising/lowering puzzle, with switches spread across multiple rooms. You'd think, considering that I played LoT blind, that this wouldn't bother me, but... damnit I already wish there was a walkthrough.
Inspired by Golden Sun no doubt.
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The only hard part of that water level puzzle is how the roofs hide pretty much every possible path, I think. Also, uh, I guess you're not really supposed to fight the jiang-shi-like thing until you're level who knows what, maybe after exploring the entire world... but at least that makes sense, seeing how she's one of the main antagonists. Whatever. All I know is that she's somewhat weak to stat debuffing (variety), but debuffing her INT doesn't really do much against her gong. Oh well. Also, I couldn't notice any weaknesses, but she uses Ice spells and recovers 100+ HP on Ice land.
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Yeah, I got through it alright til I hit Xa Zuri (guessing from the katakana that that's how you'd romanize it). Lowering the water levels in every room is optional, but there is some treasure hiding on the ground floor that you might otherwise miss. I have no idea how worth it is since all the materials kind of blend together and I'm not really paying attention to them, buuuut...
Alright, I've found Ran and Parsee
got the Hook, and used it on the first spot to get Star and Luna
.
Now I know I saw other Hook points elsewhere, but I have no idea where... uggggh I hate looking for this stuff.
e: Oh, it wound up just hiding a recipe for some kind deal, where I think you trade 10 of some material to get 5 of the four basic weapon crafting materials. Nifty, but I don't have any of the required material so whatevs.
e2: Oh hey, if you come in to Hakugyokuro from the Sunflower Fields, you can find Hatate
past a Hookshot point.
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Which area was the Hook in?
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It's in the western end of what I assume to be Higanbana. IIRC, when you first enter the blue wasteland area from the stairs
Yuuka
guards, you head north two screens, and then west a few.
e: Oh, found Reisen
too. I apparently can't progress very far past that area though, there's a big glowing red stop sign preventing me from moving on. I assume it's like the Hookshot and I'll get something then come back for it.
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Do you also happen to have a list of all the hook areas in the first strata? Backtracking is starting to piss me off. There really needs to be some sort of thing that makes monsters ignore you when you're way above their level.
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I'm going to make it quick:
1.03 patch is out now. Get it here: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_103.exe
Anyways, I did some testing - like slash, bludgeon, and piercing, magic attacks using their respective elements gain 1 magic attack each level. In theory this sounds nice, but if you're thinking of grinding it up big time, well, I'm going to be honest.
Buffing, equipment, strategy, hitting weaknesses, being higher leveled, formations, and having higher tier magic spells are going to make far more of a difference than grinding up 10 magic elemental levels to get 10 very little magic attack. I'll admit it does make a difference early on but when magic skills are very largely determined by what shikigamis you have equipped, and physical attackers have to learn their shit via attacking, it sort of falls behind unless they have another bonus for hitting a high enough level in the said magic element, but there doesn't seem to be much of a point to spending a ridiculous amount of time grinding to whatever is the max level for elemental levels in this game unless it's physical skills that you need to learn. Not to mention I can't figure out how skill gains are determined, as in if it's truly random or there's a trick to leveling it.
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What determines the chance for learning attacks?
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What determines the chance for learning attacks?
Only physical elementals (slash, bludgeon, piercing) can give you weapon skills for said elemental via randomly sparking during battles with physicals.
Everything else? Shikigamis gain these, including magic spells, upon leveling on their own.
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The chance is random, but high enough that you wouldn't be spending weeks trying to get them. Just normally meleeing in combat for a while is good enough to get you at least the first 4-5 skills. After that it starts getting a little rare though.
I'm also starting to find it a little hard to keep my party up to date as I can't remove Reimu from the party. She's level 16 currently while everyone else is 11-15, and after acquiring a new party member, I have no space for her right now.
Edit: Well, I only remember 3 hooks in the first strata, and I got Momiji, Sunny Milk, Luna Child, and Star Sapphire
for my troubles, as well as the aforementioned recipe.
By the way, do the broken recipe numbers get fixed in 1.03, along with the missing last character of a lot of sentences? And if I used 1.02x to patch my client but it's only up to 1.01, do I have to do 1.02 and 1.03 separately?
Just read the logs and tried the patch. Patch works, and all that was fixed were some minor Shikigami issues.
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Oh, I completely missed
Momiji
, where was she?
On the other side of things, I wound up infront of the stairs to the third level so I was like "sure why not". It took me like 12 tries getting things right/getting lucky, but I finally managed to beat/recruit Eiki
.
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Momiji's
at the lake area, before the mountains.
I updated my post in the first page with a more accurate description of Last Words. If you want me to translate some other stuff, just ask and I'll splice it into that post.
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Does anyone else get Tewi's starter AoE attack (Ancient Duper) missing all the time?
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Momiji's
at the lake area, before the mountains.
I must confess, I'm still not sure where you're talking about. Is it in the same area as where you can recruit Nitori?
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Hm, just had Ancient Duper miss on first attack in the first random battle with Meiling. I suspect it only has a status effect to inflict, and its rate to inflict that status effect is terrible despite it saying it is + next to the effect.
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I must confess, I'm still not sure where you're talking about. Is it in the same area as where you can recruit Nitori?
Yes. It should be in a place just before the mountains. You need to use the hook to reach the other half of the cave.
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Annnnddd I just realized the in-game bestiary is gone completely. This... is kind of stupid, and I'm not even sure how you could get it back.
E: So remember I posted about Ancient Duper having crappy accuracy? Well, it was actually the exact same as in GoS. So forget about Ancient Duper, Pesco. It's not going to hit very well EVER.
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I just found the big red stop sign as well, and the hint says that you need some sort of pass to get through. So in essence, yeah you'll be needing something like the Hook Shot item.
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The UNDENIER, as I like to call it, can be found deep into Sea of Blazing Fires, or however that place was called. It's on the other end of Youkai Mountain, in the second strata.
Also, yeah, Ancient Duper has a really horrible chance to hit, even with DEX + accuracy buffs and AGI debuffs on chinese zombie boss I only got it to hit around 50% of the time.
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Whoa. Heaven is a small load of buttrape. There's only like 5 maps but the monsters in there are crazy. A sylph just solo'd my party.
Also, is there any sort of passage I'm missing in Muenzueka? The left path is fine, but I can't do anything about the top part of the first map and any of the right side maps. I'm assuming I'll have to get in from Makai 4?
Few things to note...
- Heaven has a place where you need a "longer" hook shot to cross.
- Random Daiyousei
encounter in Makai 4.
Edit: Well, I dunno about you, but Eiki
went down with 5 characters with hammers and swords and spears hacking away at her. Buffs helped too.
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Yeah, the west side of of Muenzuka is only accessible through the other side of that level.
Also, what's up with all those deserts in Gensokyo?
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Another random mechanic to note:
Apparently as it turns out, you can't activate Last Words while being silenced. I don't know how that feels expect that it seems like a dick move. :V
Also yes, why does Gensokyo have so many deserts? That doesn't seem healthy for the area.
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All of those desert/wasteland areas are simply labeled "Makai #". Not sure if it's any relation to that Makai, but that's what it's called.
Edit: Hey, a metal Yukkuri. Seems they have 3 HP and give 775 exp per kill.
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All of those desert/wasteland areas are simply labeled "Makai #". Not sure if it's any relation to that Makai, but that's what it's called.
Edit: Hey, a metal Yukkuri. Seems they have 3 HP and give 775 exp per kill.
How did you kill it?
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Same way you kill them in GoS. Use high power, high accuracy physical moves. It doesn't have perfect dodge or even that much flee this time, but its defense is much, much higher. It's more about luck than stats in early levels, I think. It's also not that fast, so you can usually get everyone's attacks off with a high speed party before it moves.
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So ya there I was just wondering around Hakugyokurou when suddenly Kisume.
Edit: Amazingly I beat her, after wasting the all of my party's MP and then she only gives 200 xp. On the other hand I happened upon a metal yukkuri right after and managed to kill it, mainly because I got lucky and she didn't run after 4 turns >_>.
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So I was exploring that cave between the first desert area and what seems to be Marisa's house when I discovered
Yamame
. Of note is that this shikigami is apparently Earth-focused. However, you have to explore the cave completely to get new items, and its gimmick is a bit annoying. So if you explored everything, especially the cave, you actually would have 12 shikigamis at that point before going down to the second landmass.
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HA Second Tower Guardian, down!
Edit:There... Are... Mind Flayers in the Second Tower... *cry*
Edit2: Annnnnd Lyrica is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters simply for that awesome RES buff.
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So I was exploring that cave between the first desert area and what seems to be Marisa's house when I discovered Yamame
. Of note is that this shikigami is apparently Earth-focused. However, you have to explore the cave completely to get new items, and its gimmick is a bit annoying. So if you explored everything, especially the cave, you actually would have 12 shikigamis at that point before going down to the second landmass.
By my count, it should be 16 before you enter the second land mass. At least for me, I had Komachi, Letty, Minoriko, Rumia, Wriggle, Hime, Mystia, Aya, Yamame, Orin, Lyrica, Lunasa, Merlin, and Hina
with Reimu's team.
By the way, I just played Youyou Kengeki Musou. Judging distance in that game is so fidgety.
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so there's this thing where
kisume is a shikigami
zomgggg!!! :derp:
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Unfortunately I haven't gotten
Satori
yet so I can't even get her. Maybe I should've tried beating Daiyousei
when I encountered her.
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so there's this thing where kisume is a shikigami
zomgggg!!! :derp:
Yes, of course getting her requires a minor arcane ritual and a few sacrifices to various gods of moderate renown. >_>
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@Syanas, where did you get 16 shikigamis from? I actually only counted 15 shikigamis before you had to go to the second landmass, and that's 10 new shikigamis to go with your 5 initial shikigamis, unless I missed a shikigami somewhere.
Anyways, having some progress in finally getting extra shikigamis, but I wanted to share a tip: when you enter a red portal, right when the boss battle starts, reset. You'll be back at the red portal and if it lets you warp to the portal, it will show up a text indicating you can warp to it via the W key.
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Yeah I've done that trick myself when I needed to go back and heal.
Just look at my earlier post, see which one you're missing.
And oh, my bad, I meant 14. Tell me which ones you got from the first landmass before heading to the second one and I'll compare.
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Well, I was missing
Yamame
because I didn't explore that one, but then I remembered there were codes that activated a pre-order shikigami, so uh yeah 14 without the pre-order shikigami sounds about right, because I would have been actually at 13 were it not for a pre-order shikigami that I forgot about.
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Where did you get said codes?
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I don't know if I'm allowed to post pre-order codes, but here is a link to the list of pre-order shikigamis from different shops you could pre-order from:
http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku/pages/21.html
As to getting this one, check the 2nd desert on the first landmass.
However, you can only have one code entered at a time unlike GoS where you could get ALL items if you knew the codes. Which means only one pre-order shikigami is allowed in the shikigami group.
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Lol, a Hatsune Miku shikigami. There's no usable codes there though, and I'm too lazy to figure out how to get one myself.
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Well, I spent like 30 minutes looking and I couldn't find the Hookpoint for
Momiji
so I just moved on to the mountain area on the second strata. I think the reward for beating the boss here is Route-specific, since I got Murasa
despite it making no sense that she'd be up here.
The boss fight for it isn't too bad, as long as you keep using Dark attacks to prevent him from getting his HP regen in Light Land. Don't think he had any weaknesses, but I admittedly didn't actually try Light (or Mystic come to think).
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Oh wow, the second tower boss is pathetic, took her out on the second try.
Just spam light, over and over and over...
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The real question is though, what level were you?
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20 was my highest.
Edit: I have a Kisume now.
Edit2: Apparently you don't need Satori equipped to recruit monsters.
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Yeah, you're right. Chloe/Clowe really is pretty easy. My two main healers died early on and I still had no problems with just 3 characters. It also confirmed what I thought from the prologue:
Yeah, it really is that Makai. Byakuren seemed to recognize them before they even introduced themselves, and Chloe in particular treated Byakuren like they were acquaintances.
Other fun note is that apparently Chloe is an original Shinigami, or something like that. Not that the scythe wasn't a giveaway, or anything.
e: Well, beating her didn't net me Satori or anything. How did you get her? Nevermind, spoke too soon. Her sprite didn't load though, so the party was talking to thin air :wat:
e2: Is there anything you need to actually do to recruit monster shikigamis, or is it just an automatic thing?
e3: Hm, seems automatic. Maybe you can only recruit certain monsters? Kisume at least joined right away, which was nice.
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I run applocale in this game but it carsh how can I dix it
http://upic.me/i/51/crash.jpg
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i'll be scumming the DoD wiki as it gets updated and help out with translations if anybody cares since I lack time to really get into this game.
let me know if you are interested...
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Well, aside from Daiyousei (who I completely forget the location of), I've gotten all the Monster Shikigamis I care to get (including Mind Flayer, squee~). Without either the extended Hookshot or the... whatever gets rid of the stopsigns, it's time to head down to the third strata.
First impression: the Makai levels here have an amazing theme. Actually, a lot of the music in the game is great. Way better than GoS at least.
e: Wow, Bad Apple battle theme? I can get behind that.
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The pass that gets rid of stop signs is deep in Blazing Fires, in the rightmost area. I haven't found the extended hook yet but I assume it's in the third strata. Also, I got
Murasa
there as well. Also, I'm incredibly sorry that I didn't double check, but Momiji's
actually in the mountains! Sorry, I was wondering why something didn't sound right.
Trance, I'd be happy to help out, but I don't have a single clue how to edit wikis. If you want to discuss, PM me for my MSN and we can talk it over.
BanBan, I tried using Applocale too and it crashed. Try running without it.
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I read somewhere that the extended hook is found in the
huge central tower which I assume is the final dungeon
, so eh good luck getting past the zombie.
Daiyousei, if I'm not mistaken, can be found in the Makai desert that leads to the entrance to the second tower
. You can find Shizuha (is that her name?) in the same way, but she's found in the Sanzu River (try to get a Ninja there as well, they give more AGI than Aya, but not as much as Hatate)
.
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How do you get monster Shikis? Do they automatically have a chance of getting added after you get Satori?
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On the japanese wiki, it turns out someone managed to recruit metal yukkuris.
The results are ridiculous - the bonus resists in everything IS EMPTY STAR, and it comes with -90% HP. How like metal slimes. :V
Not only that, apparently the other yukkuris enemies can be recruited.
And yes, you only need to get Satori, people didn't even equip her and got monster shikigamis anyways.
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You can only get certain monsters as Shikigamis, as listed here (http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku/pages/57.html). They also seem to have different odds of asking to join. Some only took a few attempts, but Mindflayer-chan took me a while. I imagine Metal Yukkuris are pretty rare, which sucks because holy damn Stars in everything.
So far I've gotten Kedama, Kisume, Kyabia, Peri, Zaqqum, Otohime, Angel, Sunflower Fairy, Angel, Sylph, some naga-looking thing, the Tire dude, Mindflayer, Manuscript, Dragon Maid, and Dryad.
Peri in particular is completely amazing, since holy fuck Chasers do insane damage for some reason.
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How does world map warping work? It's nice and all to grind while walking places, but the visibility of some of the pathways is heck annoying
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Press the W key. It opens up the map and lets you warp to portal exits. Keep in mind it also FORCES the respawning of mobs.
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World map
- A: list of places in that area
- B: leave the world map
- Y: sound effect that seems to tell me I can't use it
- L/R: dunno what it does
What am I doing wrong?
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Press A again after you open up the list of the place you want to go. Note that it will only bring you to the entrance of an area. Some areas may have more than one, and the ones marked "???" means you haven't unlocked or found it yet.
Y just changes the speed of the cursor when you're browsing the world map. It has 3 settings. L/R scrolls between strata.
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It's worth noting that warping actually doesn't cause the mobs to respawn. Only dying/hitting a heal point does.
Oh, and thanks for the correction on Momiji
. No real harm done, though I do sort of wish I had had her earlier - she's pretty awesome for tanks! No lucking finding Daiyousei (she refuses to spawn) but I did happen across PC-98 Marisa
in the forest in the 3rd strata. I wasn't prepared though and got my ass handed to me.
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@Syanas, I remember you saying earlier that the creators of this game really liked party splitting BS, forcing you to level everyone in GoS (Which I can understand, but...).
Today someone confirmed that there was no party splitting even at the end. So that's one less thing to worry about, at least.
Anyways, the level cap is apparently 70 for now.
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Oh. Well, I guess that means I can just pick the 5 fastest fighters/spellcasters and go nuts.
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Looks like this game is much shorter than GoS (you can reach the final tower in less than 30 hours, no idea how long it takes to reach the final boss though), so people who were put off by that game's enormous length should enjoy this one a bit more.
By the way, for anyone interested in grinding, the enemies in areas you can access with the hookshot/thing that makes you destroy "no entry" signs that shall be henceforth known as UNDENIER or FIGHT THE POWER/longshot (which are stronger versions of the basic enemies like kedamas, slimes and fairies) give fixed experience, or in other words, the experience they give doesn't scale with level, and they also apparently have higher chances to drop crafting materials. And on top of that, some of those areas even have a room with a healing circle, so once you kill everything you can just go there and respawn everyone. How thoughtful of Strawberry Bose!
Ah yeah, forgot to mention that you can find the longshot in the final tower
. It's really in the middle of the way and there's no way you can miss it, so don't worry if you're a lazy person who doesn't look for goodies on every nook and cranny of a map.
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Is the
final tower the third tower?
Because if so I managed to not find it!
Incidentally, the boss went down like a busta. I went in with a half-assed setup meant to determine her weaknesses and such, and wound up killing her with ease once I noticed she was weak to physical (or at least to pierce).
e: Christ, the first tower boss is still kicking my ass. There's gotta be some kind of trick to that fight or something.
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Nope, it's... what happens when you beat all three tower bosses.
As for the zombie, she has really amazing defenses apparently, and no weaknesses to boot, so your best bet against her might be a strong blunt weapon user. My axe Okuu was doing more damage to her than my sword Meiling, for example, Also, try to get the scarecrow shikigami, as she knows Jammer which is a world effect that reduces damage from an element of choice (water in this case). And don't try buffing/debuffing much because she loves to spam Vortex, like every truly annoying boss in these two games.
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Whew, I was so used to this game being pretty easy that I forgot how helpful actually strategizing could be. Jammer neutered damage, and I just gradually Fire Chased her into oblivion. Definitely more of an endurance match than a sprint.
e: Ooooh. That's why the center of each map was darkened out.
e2: Huh. "Anra Menorg"
, huh? Man, I can't even begin to guess where Strawberry Bose got that one.
e3: Aaaand now I have no idea where to go. Nevermind figured it out. I was wondering what was up with the endlessly looping desert.
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So patch 1.04 is out, but the important part is that the B button is now fixed:
Patch Notes:
Ver1.04の変更点
・Config.exeで設定したキーが予約キーと競合した場合に予約キーを無視するようになりました。
（Bボタンを[X]に割り当てた場合、1.03以前では[X]はXボタンとしての予約キーなのでB+Xボタンを押した扱いになっていました。今バージョンからは上記の場合はBボタンのみ認識し、Xボタンを認識しません。）
・式神「錦小瑠璃」がマップ上に配置されました。
（ヒント：幽香がいた階段が怪しいかも）
・紫が剣を装備すると画像が正しく表示されない問題を修正。
（他にも一部のキャラが一部の武器を装備時に同様の現象を把握しています。次パッチにて対応します。）
・「ベネブランス・ウォール」でかばう時にターゲットがおかしくなる場合がある問題を修正。
・式神モンスター「レッサーデーモン」を仲間にできない不具合を修正しました。
・一部の戦闘エフェクトの不具合を調整しました。
・美鈴編ボスをスルー出来るバグ修正
・紫編にてレミリアが仲間にならないバグ修正
・行けないはずのポータルが表示されるバグ修正
・掲示板メッセージを変更
・ミニマップの画像を修正
・壁を貫通するマップを多数修正
・マップミスを多数修正
・イベントの台詞を一部修正
Upgrading from 1.03 link: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_104.exe
Upgrading from 1.00 link: http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_104x.exe
And yes, I have no clue on the rest of the fixes but at least no more pressing the f1 to get around the B button bug.
EDIT: More info, turns out one of these bugs that prevented Yukari from getting two characters was fixed, but I forgot that was in the patch note. Whoops.
E2: For a interesting info: Equipping a weapon that comes with a magic element (Fire, water, etc.) affects gain in that magic element as well.
EDIT3: They also added in the shikigami that won the contest that was running before the game came out a while ago.
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i already saved the game in many slots and works good....
but i can see the saves or back ups in the carpet
i can't find them! please help!
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Really digging the music in this. Sweet stuff.
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Grr, I gotta start making and using accounts on Touhou websites instead of just lurking. At anyrate, I've been at the final boss for about 3 days now. Excellent game, but I just wonder if there's a better area to level. Also, patch 1.04 introduced a special treat~ Currently level 51 earning 200 or 500-700 exp a fight across the board. I think that translates to roughly 300-500 fights a level x.x
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Orrrr you could just hunt yukkuris at the final area in the game. 30k exp IS MUCH BETTER than that silly exp rate you are getting at this 'grinding' area. Yes, I realize the final dungeon is full of dangerously powerful enemies, but the only way to grind reasonably was to hunt yukkuris in the final dungeon in GoS as well.
Also apparently the special treat is a bit bugged and could be potentially overwritten by a recent promotion shikigami, but I need to test this one as soon as I stop being distracted by Valkyria Chronicles 2 and its silly powerful light tanks.
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as soon as I stop being distracted by Valkyria Chronicles 2 and its silly powerful light tanks.
Utility APC 4 lyfe
Elemental weapons giving boosts to both is a nice implementation.
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Trance, I'd be happy to help out, but I don't have a single clue how to edit wikis. If you want to discuss, PM me for my MSN and we can talk it over.
Like I said, I'm only going to do it if people are actually interested in some English resources for the game.
If people are content as is, I'm not going to bother - I had to stop my work on the GoS translation effort for a reason; that was that I am incredibly busy with university.
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Like I said, I'm only going to do it if people are actually interested in some English resources for the game.
If people are content as is, I'm not going to bother - I had to stop my work on the GoS translation effort for a reason; that was that I am incredibly busy with university.
To be honest I haven't touched the game in about 3 days now, been playing other things. I'm saving this for when the rush of patches stops. I worked on GoS briefly in the beginning of its translation only to lose motivation after having to redo my work 3 times over due to patches.
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If anything, the list of passive bonuses shikigamis give would be a nice thing to have translated (once all of them have popped in the Japanese wiki, obviously).
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Alert me when that happens, I'd be happy to do that.
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Orrrr you could just hunt yukkuris at the final area in the game. 30k exp IS MUCH BETTER than that silly exp rate you are getting at this 'grinding' area. Yes, I realize the final dungeon is full of dangerously powerful enemies, but the only way to grind reasonably was to hunt yukkuris in the final dungeon in GoS as well.
30k exp how often? :wat:
Alert me when that happens, I'd be happy to do that.
Ditto
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Well, just got the game today. Loved Marisa's reaction to her house disappearing in the intro. Let's see how this game turns out.
EDIT: Got past the main character specific part early on. Now it's seriously giving me Sora no Kiseki the 3rd vibe.
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If anything, the list of passive bonuses shikigamis give would be a nice thing to have translated (once all of them have popped in the Japanese wiki, obviously).
For the vast majority of moves/passives, just going to the japanese wiki with Google Translate is adequate. Some of it's a little awkward but there's only a few things that you can't actually figure out well via googletrans; short simple things like Skills and Passives usually translate into something pretty understandable. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku
It's not completely done of course, but it's being filled out at quite a steady rate. (Keep in mind shikigami moves/bonuses are learned as they level, so even one that seems filled out might not be done) Since shikigamis are sorted into categories, figuring out the less obvious names are is a piece of cake.
Of course, if anyone eventually starts an actual project to English Patch the game, that's when I start loving translators forever and ever.
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30k exp how often? :wat:
Ditto
I just checked real quick - Someone apparently gained 5 levels in a hour and half off the highest tier of yukkuris and he was at the point where levels cost 40k+ exp to level up.
So a pretty good exp rate.
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Orrrr you could just hunt yukkuris at the final area in the game. 30k exp IS MUCH BETTER than that silly exp rate you are getting at this 'grinding' area. Yes, I realize the final dungeon is full of dangerously powerful enemies, but the only way to grind reasonably was to hunt yukkuris in the final dungeon in GoS as well.
Actually, that exp is from the final area of the final dungeon XD The scaling is messing with how it's shared throughout the party. I just found the 'final' form of the metal yukkuri's, but dang it's a pain to take them out before they run.
I also can't seem to get into Valkyrie Chronicles II again despite it sitting in my psp right now...
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Is it just me or are the "master" characters not very different from each other? I mean, all the spells come from the shikigamis, and the masters themselves only seem to differ in last word and stats, which isn't different enough to make say, one warrior type too distinct from another (especially since it seems that you can just shove any weapon type on them and they'll all do equally well).
Maybe it's just that I'm still not far into the game yet...
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I've heard theories ventured that they may have different rates at which they attain weapon and element levels. If that's true, it could be useful to know. But as far as I know that's just a rumor.
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Actually, that exp is from the final area of the final dungeon XD The scaling is messing with how it's shared throughout the party. I just found the 'final' form of the metal yukkuri's, but dang it's a pain to take them out before they run.
I also can't seem to get into Valkyrie Chronicles II again despite it sitting in my psp right now...
Oh right, I forgot one set of trick to killing the stupid yukkuris in the dungeon. Spoilers obviously, but this IS necessary to help kill the bastards:
So it turns out a few shikigamis like Murasa can learn D net which would prevent yukkuris from fleeing. However, all the bastards come packed with a hp regen field effect skill as a counter which makes them invincible since it regens higher hp than what they have. The key to the problem is to understand that you CAN overwrite the hp regen field the turn it comes up, so...
Step 1: Bring multiple shikigamis with D net just in case. Also have skills to overwrite the hp regen field. And DON'T FUCKING FORGET AYA!
Step 2: Start the fight with the metal kings in the order:
Turn 1: Use Aya's skill to make all of you move first and cast D-net.
Turn 2: The yukkuri will now counter with the field effect of hp regen. Hit it with a field effect that overwrites the hp regen, obviously.
Turn 3: Repeat turn 1 steps if the bastard isn't dead.
That's the trick in a nutshell, basically. Have happy times hunting these yukkuris, especially since they don't attack at all. Or you could resort to Eiki's LW since that actually apparently works on yukkuris but it's too luck-based.
And that's how you deal with the yukkuris running away.
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They also have different orders in which they pick up the weapon skills; and -possibly- everyone can't learn all the weapon skills, but we aren't sure.
But yeah, other then that... it only matters a lot when there's a significant difference in a stat (Which is something that gets more apparent later on, as well). Like Patchouli's big sets of highs (INT/MP) and lows (Everything other then POT), Yuka's tankiness and slowness, etc. There is, however, pretty large stat variations between characters depending on what/who you're looking at, so it does still matter SOME; in addition to the possibility of having different learning rates of the elemental levels.
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Of course, if anyone eventually starts an actual project to English Patch the game, that's when I start loving translators forever and ever.
I can't start any efforts but I can definitely assist.
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Someone on poosh posted an image with all the characters (except
Remilia
) at their level 70 base stats. There's some pretty significant variance in a lot of places (for example: I sincerely doubt I'll use Utsuho for long because she's just unbelievably fragile). There are some interesting things there...it seems that Meiling is statistically superior to Mokou in most ways, though Mokou's higher POT might end up making her the better tank anyway, and the differences aren't that great.
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Mokou's wonderful last word and the fact that outside of Meiling's scenario, you don't get Meiling until very late in the game, helps Mokou's case.
Edit: New Patch (1.05): http://komatsuna-ya.kululu.net/patch_maroku_105.exe
Don't ask me what it does, because I don't know where to find a changelog.
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So, what does the fang-like thing you get near the third temple (above Hina's forest, west of the northern desert) used for?
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Original Japanese changelog:
・エフェクトを強化しました。（主に特典式神関連）
・スタープラチナの特殊能力がおかしかった点を修正。
○：複数回攻撃技で攻撃回数が多くなる（五月雨攻撃などで４回攻撃が出やすくなる）
?：どんな攻撃でも攻撃回数が多くなる
・陣形による「狙われやすさ」が表記通りでなかった点を修正。
・ラスボスの演出を強化。
・ラスボスの強さも変更。（ちょっと弱くなりました）
・ダンジョンでエラー落ちする問題を修正。
・マップチップを修正。
・ダンジョンの仕掛けを修正。
・データスロットにメッセージ追加。
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One of these patch notes was to change
Star Platinum's passives so that his double action passive no longer works on getting double last words. Actually, it was changed into making multi-hit moves hit with more hits, which is a stupid change considering they could've just disabled Last Words from getting the passive.
The spoiler was one of the reasons for the craze that caught many communities on fire and made them fawn over said shikigami in the first place, considering that its passive worked ON EVERYTHING YOU DO, though, but this change is still kind of disappointing. Then again it was completely broken considering how powerful the chasers
themselves were, though.
However...
-Effects strengthened (especially for promotional Shikigami)
-Fixed the bugs with Star Platinum's Special ability
Correct: Multihit moves will hit more times
Incorrect: All actions will hit more times.
-Fixed the issues which could cause the target priority gauge not to display in the formations menu.
-Last Boss AI improved
-Last Boss strength altered (A bit weaker now)
-Fixed the problems with CTDs in dungeons
-Adjusted the Maps.
-Fixed some dungeon mechanisms.
-Added a message to the data slot.
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A quick question if I may. I feel as if I have looked everywhere on the second plane and I can not for the life of me find the hookshot. Anyone have some instructions on where I can find it?
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Finished the first stratum. The music in this game is completely gorgeous so far. Hope it keeps up.
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Hookshot's in Muenzueka on the far left side.
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I'm pretty sure I've explored everything in Makai on the side that connects Makai 1 and Makai 3 and found that there's still a part of it that I cannot access no matter what. Is there a different entrance to this place that leads to a seperate part?
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How many shikigami are we supposed to be able to get on each of the strata?
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So, what does the fang-like thing you get near the third temple (above Hina's forest, west of the northern desert) used for?
Never got this answered.
Also: I just found Kisume. Twice. In a row. With no way to recruit her anyway.
Beat her the first time. Got unlucky with her splash-damage attack during the second time. :V
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Never got this answered.
Also: I just found Kisume. Twice. In a row. With no way to recruit her anyway.
Beat her the first time. Got unlucky with her splash-damage attack during the second time. :V
I didn't know there was a fang there. I found "Suppository" in Chaos Plain 3, though, if that's what you mean. Given the name it looks pretty obvious that it has something to do with Reisen,
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Apparently you need Satori in order to get Kisume.
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@RegalStar: I see.
@Above: Yeah, I know. And... uhh... as I am typing this I have found a THIRD Kisume. Is there something special in Hakugyokurou that is making this happen?
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Kisume is just a rare encounter. Apparently, after you recruit Satori you can recruit monsters as shikigamis, so you recruit Kisume as you would with any other monster, she's just special because she's a Touhou character. Or something like that.
Also, I would really really like an extract of that Maple Wise remix in stratum 2. It's completely awesome.
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THERE IS A MAPLE WISE REMIX?
I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW
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Yes, there is a Maple Wise remix. You can listen to it as soon as you exit the stairs room leading to the 2nd stratum, in fact.
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Kisume is really easy to beat once you get the Silver Hammer, if anyone is having trouble with her. Also, pretty much all other random Touhou encounters (but Koakuma, I've yet to find her) are easy to beat by just spamming physical attacks.
Speaking of them, is PC-98 Reimu in this? Having only PC-98 Marisa seems unfair to me. No Mima seems somewhat unfair too, but eh, my bones haven't been feeling anything for a long time.
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Patch 1.06 is out.
http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/update/ (http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/update/)
Ver1.06の変更点
・一部のボスモンスターのグラフィックを変更しました。
・さとりがイベントで正しく表示されるようになりました。
・エフェクトを強化しました。（主に特典式神）
・「運命のスペクタクル」で変身した敵を倒した際に
表示がずれてしまう場合がある減少を修正しました。
・「エンペラーローブ」で有利な能力変化を自動治療しなくなりました。
・「ミラーシールド」等の反射装備では味方からの攻撃を反射しなくなりました。
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Patch 1.06 is out.
http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/update/ (http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/update/)
Ver1.06の変更点
・一部のボスモンスターのグラフィックを変更しました。
・さとりがイベントで正しく表示されるようになりました。
・エフェクトを強化しました。（主に特典式神）
・「運命のスペクタクル」で変身した敵を倒した際に
表示がずれてしまう場合がある減少を修正しました。
・「エンペラーローブ」で有利な能力変化を自動治療しなくなりました。
・「ミラーシールド」等の反射装備では味方からの攻撃を反射しなくなりました。
1) Some boss monster graphics were changed.
2) Satori event appearance were corrected/rectified
3) Effects were buffed, mainly the special Shikigami
4) "Fate's Spectacle" was fixed since it had a bug wherein it did not have a visual/appear effect on transformed monster.
5) "Emperor's Robe" has a different effect now, it no longer has automatic recovery
6) Mirror Shield no longer reflects attacks from allies.
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okay i got Satori after beat 2nd tower boss (WTF 2nd tower boss is WAY more easier than 1st tower boss i beat her on 1st try)
how to recruit kisume shizuha daiyoisei etc with her?
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It'll happen automatically. Equipping Satori isn't required. Other monsters can join too; random chance when you beat them. It's not 1% stuff like GoS though, don't worry; chance does vary by enemy though.
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it works thanks just got kisume few mins ago
anyway anyone ever beat this boss? http://i42.tinypic.com/344cd42.png
he keeps buffing himself and suddenly wipe all my party in 2-3 turns ;_;
which shikigami that has skill to dispel his buff?
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which shikigami that has skill to dispel his buff?
Star Sapphire does.
Koishi and Beholder do too, but that's later on I think.
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So I feel pretty dumb. I have searched all three strata's as far as I can and still have yet to find the hookshot. Could anyone possibly have a screenshot as to where it could be or a detailed steps as to how to get to it? That or is it related to beating any of the three girls in the towers?
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Getting the hookshot? I remember directions being on the poosh thread... ah, here we go. http://puu.sh/cHVF
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it works thanks just got kisume few mins ago
anyway anyone ever beat this boss? http://i42.tinypic.com/344cd42.png
he keeps buffing himself and suddenly wipe all my party in 2-3 turns ;_;
which shikigami that has skill to dispel his buff?
That boss took some time on my part, I spammed electric attacks to keep earth attacks low damage.
Also, I finally beat the game :3
My endgame team (possible spoilers) http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/Domino36963/DevilOfDecline5.png (http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/Domino36963/DevilOfDecline5.png)
And I made a video of how to kill those giant metal yukkuri's based on rizul98's recommendations (youtube kinda messed up the sound. The entire video ended up being rather quite, I had to turn up my speakers a bit -_- Also, spoilers probably.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blw35JiHB-o&context=C309f179ADOEgsToPDskKgwGv6C-dJanvklcTZKpOb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blw35JiHB-o&context=C309f179ADOEgsToPDskKgwGv6C-dJanvklcTZKpOb)
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Getting the hookshot? I remember directions being on the poosh thread... ah, here we go. http://puu.sh/cHVF
Interesting cause I have opened that silver chest. Is the hookshot a craftable item? If not then something might be bugged for me.
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You sure you can't use any of the normal hookshot points?
I mean, I know there's points where you need an upgraded hootshot instead.
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Interesting cause I have opened that silver chest. Is the hookshot a craftable item? If not then something might be bugged for me.
So are you saying you don't have Momiji
or the other characters only gotten via 'normal' hookshot points?
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So are you saying you don't have Momiji
or the other characters only gotten via 'normal' hookshot points?
Sadly I don't. I very confused.
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Sadly I don't. I very confused.
Go to the first 'normal' hookshot point on the first stratum (which should've been a 2nd area above the first area you're forced to go to) and run into the point. You can't use it for anything than running into the normal points.
If that's what you meant by the hookshot not working, then welp.
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There is one point in the second stratum that I can remember (in youkai mountain I believe) where you need the extended hookshot. As for using the hookshot itself, it simply requires that you be next to the point and tap/hold down the corresponding arrow key to get across.
Also, are the waves of patches done yet? I'm considering picking up the game again soon.
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There is one point in the second stratum that I can remember (in youkai mountain I believe) where you need the extended hookshot. As for using the hookshot itself, it simply requires that you be next to the point and tap/hold down the corresponding arrow key to get across.
Also, are the waves of patches done yet? I'm considering picking up the game again soon.
Not exactly - I think a lot of people are complaining that some abilities are a wee bit too powerful, like chasers for one thing. Considering 1.06 just came out...
Besides, I think we're in for numerous patches by the time this wave is done, anyways.
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Nitori get! Sorry, Utsuho, you're just too darn squishy. Thankfully scaling exp means it's not too much of a chore to level her up, the rest of my party's only level 8 anyway.
Is there any compilation of what passives shikigami have? Even just the starters?
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Is there any compilation of what passives shikigami have? Even just the starters?
google translate on the japanese wiki works pretty well, and just about all the touhou character shikigamis have most of their data filled out (Stuff they don't get until high levels (and there ARE high high level passives even on seemingly-earlygame-limited shikigamis) is still missing for most)
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku
Go to "Shikigami" and "By Type" on the left side, and Eastern Character has all the touhou characters organized by game and fight order, so even names you can't understand are easily identifiable.
The General category (Very incomplete and possibly outdated after some patches changing it's shikigamis) includes shikigami that are neither touhou nor monster-fight-recruits, which includes all promotional shikigami and a few others. And then there's Monster, which has the monsters you can recruit as Shikigami after an event that occurs, but the monster section is very incomplete (not all recruitable monsters are listed, and later ones in the game mostly don't have info filled out; most before the final dungeon have a good bit of info out though)
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Serela isn't kidding when she says that there's also some passives that level up REALLY LATE. Like 65-70.
What do I mean? The -90% hp penalty passive that the metal king yukkuri shikigami has? At 65, it goes down to -45%, which is why not all passives at certain levels have been filled in yet.
In the end, this means some shikigamis might have some absurdly powerful passives that aren't known yet because they require level 60-70 to get. Unfortunately, the best exp rate gain is in the last area before the end via the highest tier yukkuris which give 30k exp each, so it'll take a good while to get all the high high level passives. At least you can actually equip 15 shikigamis, but due to the way that hunting highest tier yukkuris works, it's still limited in how many shikigamis you can actually level up, though.
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From the Cheat Engine side of things, I haven't found a way to hack exp gain. There's a variable which controls the displayed exp of an encounter. That's got nothing to do with how much you actually get. Each character and shikigami gets their own variable for displayed exp gain (the one by their exp bar). It's also purely display and doesn't change the actual exp required to level up. Lastly I tried reducing the exp until next level figure. It's another display-only variable. No shortcuts to hard grinding.
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is okuu really that weak? i grind her to level 20+ yet she still hits weak and fragile too...not to mention her speed isn't that big either
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She actually has the third highest INT and the fourth highest STR and AGI of the game, so she might work as a mixed glass cannon. I don't really mind her squishiness, and the fact that she's actually more resilient that Marisa or Patchouli is kind of funny. In fact, she's only a bit slower than Marisa, but has more INT and HP than her.
By the way, has anyone managed to beat zombie's refight
? I'm pretty sure I only got it thanks to Suika's
Last Word, and that was after a ton of retries. Star Platinum
actually helped me a lot, too, that new passive ability might not be as good as before but it certainly helps if you have the correct attacks and shikigami (namely Hatate, but she didn't help me much in that fight because I forgot she existed).
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Pesco:What about hacking a shikigami into having a ridiculous Party EXP bonus to increase exp?
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Is there a Shikigami with that as a scalable ability? If not, it's hardcoded.
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Well, I know Tewi and the Tora No Ana promotional shikigami's Party EXP increases as they level up. If they're hard-coded though...
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Isn't there a way to simply hack the level value itself? It was fairly easily done in TGoS, so unless they added even more confusing code in there, I don't see how this is any different.
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I didn't play GoS, so I never got round to it. Hacking level would work if a character's stat values were based off the level value. All I can see it doing is messing with how much exp you need to level up. It won't help you learn the high level skills any sooner.
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Oh, and about Utsuho's squishyness level in comparison to others; one factor to keep in mind is that POT is like VIT, except for magic (and status effects I guess), and Utsuho has the lowest POT in the game, wheras someone like Sunny only has slightly less VIT/HP then Utsuho, but WAAAY more POT. Marisa barely has less vit/hp in exchange for still a good bit more POT (Not near as much as sunny) and Patch has more POT then Marisa although a lot less vit.
So, overall, Utsuho is still probably the most fragile character in the game; it's just she'll take physical hits a bit better then Patch.
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funny that Utsuho's nuclear rod is just for show in this game...can't nuke the enemies!
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Well... there IS her last word for that :V
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Okay, after getting my ass totally handed to me in the third Makai, I went back to the first area and found where I was actually supposed to go. Suddenly every battle is not a party wipe! :toot:
The boss before you get Orin was brutal though. Mostly for being able to oneshot Marisa and Nitori in the same AoE attack, and once they were down he just pumped the Fire land all the way and murdered my face off. Ended up needing Mokou's Last Word to win.
EDIT: aaaand Yuka was surprisingly easy!
Trying to decide who I'm going to use as my final party early. Reimu's going nowhere, and I'll probably hold onto Marisa. The other three slots are open for debate, though Mokou's probably keeping hers. Youmu will likely get switched out, and I'm considering just making that Yuka for a) early replacement and b) two solid physical attackers/tanks. The last spot currently has a kappa in it but I'm thinking Shikieiki will probably take that once I get her (which I understand isn't for a while?) Also finally got 15 shikigami. New ones mean I have to start swapping. Hm.
Do you get the other main characters on every route?
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Oh yeah, I forgot one important thing: Elemental weapons do give training to their chosen magic elemental... with one thing I failed to note: They also gain attack power based ON the magic elemental and physical elemental levels... and the magic elemental part actually ignores defenses entirely. This means early on, the elemental weapons are a godsend against enemies not resistant to their chosen magic elemental weakness, but later on weapons with slayers do better for random battles depending on enemies.
This means while elemental weapons can give their bonuses to the weapon itself and be stronger in raw attack than slayer weapons, stacking slayer effects still works like it did in GoS.
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Wait, I think I got the stats mixed up. POT is defense against magic? Then what's DEX?
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shim:Yeah, you get all the characters on every route, but the four main characters are only available very late in.
rizul:I suppose, but that requires you to have the correct slayer; elemental weapons get the raw attack power increase, and can hit weaknesses on enemies similar to how a slayer hits the monster type.
I'm sure slayers are probably stronger when you've got the right one, it's just that it seems elemental would be more all-reaching. So both have their advantages! Especially considering that sword skills have slayers anyway (Still missing the added slayer from slayer weapon but you lose some you keep some etc.)
ninjaedit:DEX is weapon accuracy and status infliction accuracy.
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The translated stats in the wiki, which I assumed were STR/VIT/DEX/AGI/INT/POT, are Force Strength Dexterity Rapidity Cleverness Luck. Are those the stats, in the same order? Because I assumed that POT was purely luck and, well, yeah.
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Yeah it's in that order.
It's a little silly that they english-ize the final stat as Potential when in japanese it's apparently Luck, but :V The partial translation of the manual shows that the stat is for a character's "Hidden Power", which sounds a lot more like potential then luck anyway, so :shrug:
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The stats are in the same order. POT is a weird in-game reference as the stat translates to luck and it's not really either. POT is both magic defense and resistance to ailments.
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> party level 15
> get up to boss
> 4500 HP
I DO NOT THINK I AM SUPPOSED TO BE HERE YET
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I'm thinking Shikieiki will probably take that once I get her (which I understand isn't for a while?)
Not really, you can actually find her as soon as you finish the second level
. Or even earlier, if you don't mind not exploring every single pixel of a map.
Do you get the other main characters on every route?
Yup, after a certain event I really don't want to spoil, not even on tags. It's just so fun.
> party level 15
> get up to boss
> 4500 HP
I DO NOT THINK I AM SUPPOSED TO BE HERE YET
Yeah, that's weird - you ARE supposed to clear the towers as soon as you find them, though, the enemies in there are not too hard if you've beaten the tower guardian. That zombie will kill you millions of time even after you beat everything else in the game, though, she's annoyingly hard to deal with. Tip against her: capture those ice ghost girls somewhere in the first area of the game, they have a skill that nulls water damage for one turn - and that's something the zombie loves using.
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Yeah, there's a lot of problems with that boss as a whole. Even at much higher levels she's still an issue. By comparison, the boss of the second tower is much, much easier.
God, I really should get back to this game. I was at the point where I was going to start looking through the third strata, having finished everything in the first strata and STILL getting my butt kicked by the first tower boss.
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Hookshot get! The only point I can remember needing it for led to the Three Fairies. Are Star and Luna any good? (Not using Sunnymilk, waaaaay too squishy, even with the boatloads of POT.)
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Star Sapphire starts with and learns a few useful support skills (Resurrection!), in addition to some light attacks; Lunar Child is about the same, although her support skills would only be infliction of Silence and a Large range heal, in addition to dark attacks instead of light ones.
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There's Momiji in the mountains, and then there's the recipe thing that I forgot the location of.
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North of Hina's place. That, Momiji's cave and the three fairies tree are the hookshot places in strata 1.
So, I would appreciate a detailed explanation of what each of STR/VIT/DEX/AGI/INT/POT is now that I'm completely confused :/
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North of Hina's place. That, Momiji's cave and the three fairies tree are the hookshot places in strata 1.
So, I would appreciate a detailed explanation of what each of STR/VIT/DEX/AGI/INT/POT is now that I'm completely confused :/
physical damage
physical defense
accuracy/status infliction accuracy
turn order/evasion
magic damage
magic defense/status infliction defense
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And there's no stat that raises the chance of criticals occurring, then? :@
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I believe DEX affects the chance of criticals and I recall seeing a post that INT affects how much crits do. Not certain about those.
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Is there any sort of work on an English patch for this? Because I'd love to play it, but not knowing the language makes that somewhat difficult.
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Is there any sort of work on an English patch for this? Because I'd love to play it, but not knowing the language makes that somewhat difficult.
I'm more than willing to provide assistance on a patch but I'm not going to start the effort; I have no time to do any sort of administration or management for something like this. Sorry!
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So for the first tower boss, is there any weakness to her? Or does that battle really have to be a battle of attrition.
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Is there any sort of work on an English patch for this? Because I'd love to play it, but not knowing the language makes that somewhat difficult.
This game is actually pretty easy to play even if all you know is just a bit of katakana to read most skill names. I feel I'm losing a lot by not understanding the lengthy dialogs that happen everywhere, but I know those are going to be translated eventually, so it's not that huge of a problem.
So for the first tower boss, is there any weakness to her? Or does that battle really have to be a battle of attrition.
I have absolutely no idea. I have tried every magical element (but Mystic, actually, I forgot about it) and nothing seemed to hit any weakness, the only kind of debuffs that land on her easily are stat debuffs that don't change anything... the best way to go at her I know thus far is using Burabura's cheap water attack-nullifying move to make most of her attacks trivial, then stacking blunt resistance on a tank and using Provocation with them. Then hitting her with as many blunt attacks, or defense-ignoring attacks as you can
. I find it really weird for something so tankish to have no weaknesses at all, so I most likely just haven't searched hard enough.
By the way, oh cool someone beat the last boss in two turns. Obvious spoilers, so derp.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16650392
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This game is actually pretty easy to play even if all you know is just a bit of katakana to read most skill names.
Which I don't.
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realkana.com
I picked up both types in an hour and a half. It's really not that bad. (Kanji still kicks my ass, of course.)
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Oh yeah, I forgot; INT increases critical damage (including physical crits) and STR increases damage boosts when hitting a weakness.
Also, google translate on the japanese wiki ( http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku ) works for just about all the shikigami stuff as well, unless it isn't filled in yet (High level skills/passives/stat boosts and rare enemy shikigami are not yet filled in, in many cases; but most stuff is.)
But I like knowing the dialogue, is the thing. :V
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So I got the
Metal Yukkuri and for some reason its not giving the Star resistance to everything when equipped.
Is it a higher level passive?
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Huh... you sure? That sounds strange. It should have that passive from the start (You can look and see it in it's passive list as well)
If it's not in the passive list the only thing I can think of is "That's not the shikigami you think it is." or they changed it.
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The reason it doesn't give you elemental resistances is because
IT AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE DAMAGE SOURCE. Yes, that means -90% damage reduction from all damage sources.
That's not the only ridiculous passives the line of trees of that specific group has, though. They're a ridiculous set of shikigamis in general.
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The reason it doesn't give you elemental resistances is because IT AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE DAMAGE SOURCE. Yes, that means -90% damage reduction from all damage sources.
That's not the only ridiculous passives the line of trees of that specific group has, though. They're a ridiculous set of shikigamis in general.
...does that mean you can stack it with normal resistances for further reduction? :V
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Nevermind seems to be fine now. Was facing the third tower boss while having it equipped at the time hoping it would be my ticket to victory. Nah that physical attack of hers is just murder. Still having an issue with the first tower boss though -__-
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...does that mean you can stack it with normal resistances for further reduction? :V
Apparently, yeah. The -90% hp penalty is a big enough drawback until level 65 where it becomes -45% hp penalty instead. By the time you get there, though, other yukkuri shikigamis are far more ridiculous than metal yukkuris.
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realkana.com
I picked up both types in an hour and a half. It's really not that bad. (Kanji still kicks my ass, of course.)
Yeah, it doesn't look like that'll be too hard. Of course, just because I can read it doesn't mean I'll be able to understand it (although it should still help).
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hey, does anyone know where to get the extended hookshot? ???
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I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now that it's halfway through the final dungeon.
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Yeah, it doesn't look like that'll be too hard. Of course, just because I can read it doesn't mean I'll be able to understand it (although it should still help).
Try using Translation Aggregator and Interactive Text Hooker then, those 2 should provide some help with translating stuffs like abilities ingame.
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So uh remember how the yukkuri shikigamis had that special star to everything for damage? Turns out... it wasn't really giving you the resistances at all before the 1.07 patch. Welp!
EDIT: The 1.07 patch also broke a lot of sound effects. Whoops!
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Well its nice to know you get those Star resistances now. Though anyone know a good place to hunt the other yukkuri types?
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Now that I think about it: What does the japanese part of the game title translate to?
They also fixed Akyuu's bugged revive passive. :V
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Now that I think about it: What does the japanese part of the game title translate to?
The wiki has it as "Records of Fantasy Dream".
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The wiki has it as "Records of Fantasy Dream".
I don't mean to nitpick, but it seems to be missing the Eastern (Or rather, Touhou) part of the Japanese and I'm not sure where the wiki got the Dream thing from.
EDIT: Although I guess I just want other translators' opinion on the Japanese part of the title and if it is Records of Fantasy Dream.
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I don't mean to nitpick, but it seems to be missing the Eastern (Or rather, Touhou) part of the Japanese and I'm not sure where the wiki got the Dream thing from.
Ask the person who made the edit.
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日本語はたのしですね。でも、も大変です。
That said, patch 1.07 notes. Google translate helps a little:
Ver1.07の変更点
・ＶＲＡＭが少なすぎると一部のシーンで落ちる現象を修正。
・ソフトリセットキーを追加しました。
（Ｌ＋Ｒ＋Ｓ＋Ｐを同時押し）
・一部のイベントでスキップするとレシピがもらえなくなる現象を修正。
（既に起こっていた場合も、今回のバージョンでレシピがもらえます。）
・一部のスキルが表記よりもダメージが弱くなっていたのを修正。
（威力が上昇したスキル：津波、カオスフレア、ヒートブレス、ヒノファンタズムなど）
・表記とダメージが釣り合っていなかったスキルの表記を修正。
（マインドブラストの威力は30が正しい。）
・技の表記も威力もおかしかったスキルを修正。
（ニュートラルブレスは威力70が正しい。）
・スキルに空欄があると挙動が怪しい問題を修正。
・魔理沙がルーンの杖を装備するとグラフィックが表示されない現象を修正。
・プラズマナイフの追加効果が正しく「大感電」になりました。
・グリーンベレー／レッドベレーが正しく連続攻撃できるようになりました。
・チェイス系、シールドガード系のように味方にかける物理系スキルでミスが出る現象を修正。
・スターサファイア、河城みとりなどのパッシブ能力の数値を表記通りに修正。
・阿求の「蘇生時のHP回復量上昇」能力が正しく機能するように修正。
・メタル系のパッシブ能力「☆すべて」が正しく機能するように修正。
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Well, I'm managing to play the game all right, but I'd really like to know just what the heck is going on. I don't suppose anyone's found a story translation anywhere? Hell, if nothing else, even just a summary would do.
Anyways, I chose Byakuren because she's playable way too rarely. She certainly gets an odd starting party, I'll tell you that much (what the hell were Yuyuko and Remilia even doing there?). I like how she's actually fairly durable; she may be a magician, but she specializes in physical enhancement, so she really shouldn't be all that fragile. She's no tank (I don't know who all would be good for that, or when I'll get them), but still, it's nice to see a game that actually takes her specialty into account with her stats (she does tend to get support abilities).
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Anyways, I chose Byakuren because she's playable way too rarely. She certainly gets an odd starting party, I'll tell you that much (what the hell were Yuyuko and Remilia even doing there?). I like how she's actually fairly durable; she may be a magician, but she specializes in physical enhancement, so she really shouldn't be all that fragile. She's no tank (I don't know who all would be good for that, or when I'll get them), but still, it's nice to see a game that actually takes her specialty into account with her stats (she does tend to get support abilities).
All the main characters are surprisingly tanky. In fact, Byakuren is actually the squishiest of them by a chunk. Lowest defense (a solid 22 behind the next lowest, Yukari, at level 70) and only a few points of POT more than Meiling. She's also a good 40-odd HP behind.
Good tanks are Mokou and Yuka. Neither is too far through the game.
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I've been kind of skimming the dialogue, but the gist if the plot is...
3 chicks from Makai, named Chloe Gripper (the shinigami), Xa Zuri (the long-sleeved zombie), and Shijuukara Otoha pop and and bring some towers with them. They want to bring about the destruction of Gensoukyo, so that they can create a new Makai in its place. They eventually revive a Great Devil by the name of Anra Menorg to be their leader. I thiiink her power is to steal other people's powers (but I might have read that wrong) and she plans on using Keine's history manipulation.
My Japanese isn't the greatest though, so yeah, might have misread some of the finer points.
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And stacking Gensokyo into layers is part of this process? And what about people and places dissapearing? What's that have to do with everything? Also, why are so many people only able to function as shikigami?
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This is not a post about the story but...
It seems they added a stupid mechanism to the highest tier yukkuris to prevent them from being excessively farmed. Apparently the mechanism is 'time'-based, which means every 1 hours you are limited to 3 of the yukkuris. The problem? These go up to level 70, and give 30k exp each.
So I want somebody to test if you can cheat your timer up by 1 hour each and see if this works.
Pesco, is it even possible to put the timer by 1 hour ahead? And I mean the one that 'displays' when you save but is actually still running in background. This would be problematic considering the only way to see this is at the load screen/save to a different slot screen.
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If you can find exactly where this farming timer is displayed, I can get a lead on it. But I have my doubts on it though. In GoS I tried to hack the play time to speed up the 1 hour event and it didn't work. Can someone share me a high level save file so I can give it a try? Figuring out mapmaking in LoM has been way more fun than this game for me :/.
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Hmm, I ran into the Yukkuri's fairly often (though I wish it was more often than not). I could swear it was much much more often than 3 an hour though.
I'll try uploading my save on Thursday (working 14 hour shift tomorrow and am not going to feel like getting on my computer when I come home for 20 minutes x.x).
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I'm sure it's something else (unless 1.07 just plain screwed up with the Yukkuri King encounter rate), because I've been looking for them for at least 1h30 of playtime and I haven't seen a single one. I also just found out metal and stray yukkuri are still as common as ever on longshot areas, so either those places run on a different system or there's no global yukkuri timer.
Wild guessing tells me it could also have to do with the gears in the final area, as the last time I ran into Yukkuri Kings was a long time ago when I hadn't beaten those bosses.
[EDIT] Wait, more science just popped up. I decided to kill some monsters there because well, there aren't many better places to grind, and I ran into four Yukkuri Kings, from around 55:10 hours of gameplay until around 55:40, with each encounter being around 10 minutes apart from each other. I killed things for about 40 more minutes after that, but no more of those things appeared.
taking it easy is too hard
[EDIT2] Even more science! Found another king at around 57:40, then 57:50 and 58:00, and then nothing in the twenty minutes after that. Two hours of cooldown after 3-4 yukkuri, 10 minutes apart from each other? Who knows.
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Well, on 1.06 at least I can definitely confirm that Yukkuri Kings aren't on a timer of any kind.
Incidentally,
(http://i.imgur.com/cCBe2.png)
Pictured: a thing of beauty
Actually while I'm on shikigamis, where do you get Sakuya? I think she's the only Touhou character Shikigami I haven't found yet.
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Actually while I'm on shikigamis, where do you get Sakuya? I think she's the only Touhou character Shikigami I haven't found yet.
Get every playable character (or maybe just Remilia), then head to that suspicious place in the Garden of the Sun. It's somewhere to the east, if I'm not mistaken.
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So I got up to the entrance of the second tower, only to get smacked down hard. My party's still around level 15, though. I don't have any real way of dealing with the demon setting the land 2/3 of the way to Dark. :( I did pick up Ran, so with her and Minoriko I can at least keep the land between 1 and 2 thirds, but I can't make any significant headway, and that requires two characters doing nothing but spamming the fairly weak single-target light spells.
On one try I even got Mokou's last word. The boss responded by instakilling Mokou, Yuka, AND Nitori. Good to know that instakills bypass Reraise! :colonveeplusalpha:
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Yeah, you might want to get back to that boss later. Even when you're at an ok level, he can sitll bs you with that instakill. And, for some reason, he doesn't ALWAYS use the +1 Dark thing twice in a row. This has never happened to me. ;/
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I tried him a few times. He double cast it on the second or third turn every one.
By the way, can anyone translate the 1.07 patch notes?
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An update: It seems the users claiming there was a 2 hour delay on yukkuri kings didn't realize one important fact:
Yukkuri king spawns ARE fixed.
This means running away and reentering the fight method is useless as fuck on them, which they were doing, apparently. Yeah, this means if you didn't get the yukkuri king on first encounter (See, you ALWAYS get them on the first encounter if a king decides he would appear.) from two specific monster spots to the left, you have to run from the map to the save point to reset the spawns. They aren't on a timer, it's just the way that they spawn can confuse people into thinking they're on a timer when they aren't.
Looks like I don't have to use Cheat Engine, because the method listed above to hunt yukkuri kings averages about 1 ever 4-5 minutes which is very opposite of what was being claimed (That 2 hour timer). Homing curvy laser, could you try this method and report if this is true?
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ITT we run back and forth from the Poosh thread :getdown:
This makes me wonder, though: are ALL Yukkuri spawns fixed in this way? And in that case, can people figure out where they can spawn, so you can powerlevel on the weaker ones?
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Now that sounds like a much more plausible way to balance spawns. I'll still take a save file if there's other stuff to hack-test.
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日本語はたのしですね。でも、も大変です。
That said, patch 1.07 notes. Google translate helps a little:
Ver1.07の変更点
・ＶＲＡＭが少なすぎると一部のシーンで落ちる現象を修正。
・ソフトリセットキーを追加しました。
（Ｌ＋Ｒ＋Ｓ＋Ｐを同時押し）
・一部のイベントでスキップするとレシピがもらえなくなる現象を修正。
（既に起こっていた場合も、今回のバージョンでレシピがもらえます。）
・一部のスキルが表記よりもダメージが弱くなっていたのを修正。
（威力が上昇したスキル：津波、カオスフレア、ヒートブレス、ヒノファンタズムなど）
・表記とダメージが釣り合っていなかったスキルの表記を修正。
（マインドブラストの威力は30が正しい。）
・技の表記も威力もおかしかったスキルを修正。
（ニュートラルブレスは威力70が正しい。）
・スキルに空欄があると挙動が怪しい問題を修正。
・魔理沙がルーンの杖を装備するとグラフィックが表示されない現象を修正。
・プラズマナイフの追加効果が正しく「大感電」になりました。
・グリーンベレー／レッドベレーが正しく連続攻撃できるようになりました。
・チェイス系、シールドガード系のように味方にかける物理系スキルでミスが出る現象を修正。
・スターサファイア、河城みとりなどのパッシブ能力の数値を表記通りに修正。
・阿求の「蘇生時のHP回復量上昇」能力が正しく機能するように修正。
・メタル系のパッシブ能力「☆すべて」が正しく機能するように修正。
because someone asked:
1) Some scenes screwing up if you had too little VRAM available was fixed
2) L+R+S+P for Soft Reset added
3) A bug where you didn't get recipes obtained in certain scenes if you skipped them was fixed (in the case that you've already past this scenes, updating will give you the recipes)
4) A bug where some skills were weaker than the displayed power was fixed. Tsunami, Chaos Flare, Heat Blast and Hinophantasm had their power raised.
5) Mind Blast was rebalanced, it is now at 30 power
6) Neutral Breath had its power fixed to 70
7) A bug where skills with empty spaces in them acted strangely was fixed
8) A bug where Marisa's graphic didn't change when she had Rune Staff equipped was fixed
9) Plasma Knife has an added effect of "strong paralysis" now.
10) Green/Red Berets now properly add chance to proc multiple attacks
11) Chaser-type and Shield Guard-type skills can work even if allies miss with their attacks.
12) Star Sapphire and Kawashiro Mitori (shikigamis) have their passive values adjusted
13) Akyuu's skill which is to revive w/ a lot of HP is now working properly
14) Metal-type Shikigami's star-resist everything passive has been adjusted appropriately
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11) Chaser-type and Shield Guard-type skills can work even if allies miss with their attacks.
like Chasers needed the buff :V
Thanks, Trance!
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MINDFLAYERS
that is all.
I forced my way past the second tower guardian by lucking out; he instakilled Mokou early but then proceeded to use just weak single-target stuff or miss with the instakill. Party level 15, except Yuka, who was 12.
I then proceeded to dodge like a complete and total BOSS and got to the shortcut in the second tower without dying horribly! Probably going to need to clear some more of the second stratum before I ram my face into Chloe, easier or not. Level 16 ain't gonna cut it.
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like Chasers needed the buff :V
i... actually think that was a bug that got fixed. I haven't actually played much recently due to uni so I can't check myself.
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...This means running away and reentering the fight method is useless as fuck on them, which they were doing, apparently. Yeah, this means if you didn't get the yukkuri king on first encounter (See, you ALWAYS get them on the first encounter if a king decides he would appear.) from two specific monster spots to the left, you have to run from the map to the save point to reset the spawns. They aren't on a timer, it's just the way that they spawn can confuse people into thinking they're on a timer when they aren't.
Looks like I don't have to use Cheat Engine, because the method listed above to hunt yukkuri kings averages about 1 ever 4-5 minutes which is very opposite of what was being claimed (That 2 hour timer). Homing curvy laser, could you try this method and report if this is true?
Actually, I was killing those two mobs on the left every single time (except for when there was a Mind Flayer among them, oh god the trauma), which might explain the 10 minutes delay if that's the case. No idea about not seeing anything for two hours, though, because as I said I was not running away and re-engaging with these monsters...
I'll try testing a bit more later today.
ITT we run back and forth from the Poosh thread :getdown:
This makes me wonder, though: are ALL Yukkuri spawns fixed in this way? And in that case, can people figure out where they can spawn, so you can powerlevel on the weaker ones?
Pretty sure they aren't, at least on the longshot area in the Forest of Magic. I found 5 Metal Yukkuri and 1 Stray Yukkuri there in relatively no time, compared to the king grinding.
MINDFLAYERS
Lyrica! :V! And then you realize her RES buff is not as strong as Sanae's and that there's no buff growth tree so you can't make it stronger and faster. :ohdear:
By the way, if anyone needs a save and doesn't mind my horribleness at everything, here's mine (http://www.mediafire.com/?v15jdds4f72a1ii).
[EDIT] Well, yeah, ran around for one more hour and it looks like it's just as rizul98 said. That makes things much more simple! Curse you, bad luck, for getting in the way of science!
It's kind of sad how +EXP equipment doesn't work on them, though. Seeing experience rain all over the place is always amusing.
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It's actually worth noting that every encounter in the game is semi-fixed. Each and every seperate enemy on the overworld has a small list it can choose from at random.
It's pretty easy to notice. Go to a big room about half-way through a dungeon. You will notice that the enemies closer to that room's entrance will tend to be weaker than enemies closer to that room's exit.
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The poll results are out.
幻想魔録プレイ頂きありがとうございます。
仲間にしたい式神投票の第一回集計結果です。
「こいつだけは欲しい！」と思う式神に投稿頂きました。
現行バージョンで式神にならないキャラにも投票可能です。
（今、東方幻想魔録で敵として襲ってくるモンスターに限ります。）
1位：クロエ＝グリパー
2位：四十雀音羽
3位：霞朱麗
4位：ウンディーネ
5位：レッサーヴァンパイア
6位：鉱山の村
7位：モーショボー
8位：サキュバス
9位：アーチャー
10位：文車
And then there's this thing.
ボスを除いた、人気上位の式神(TOP5)は
今後の扱いを見直します！
「ウンディーネ」
「レッサーヴァンパイア」
「鉱山の村」
「モーショボー」
「サキュバス」
I think these five might be made into shikigami in a future version. Who knows. Rikaichan isn't helping much and Google Translate is as good as ever.
Worth noting is that they ignored ZUN, who was one vote above the flat Archer. I believed in you guys! :(
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http://puu.sh/dhH9 <--- Four of the monsters that won, according to Pooshlmer.
lol mine village :V
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I've been enjoying this game fairly thoroughly. It is fun controlling the characters of Touhou to combat an abnormal (by Touhou standards) form of hostiles. The artwork is also adorable^^
I'm just now obtaining the patches, with out them this title is as stated here in this forum bugged to an extent XD
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does anyone know a good place to farm Yukkuri towers?
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Ver1.08, patch notes, and also links to 1.08x and all the earlier patches.
http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/update/
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The patch added portrait cut-ins to many things, even if you already saw the battle character's portrait in the menus. This includes the bosses which you will end up missing out on if you completed the game in the previous patches. :V
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EDIT: Massively derp'd on this one by quoting my own post on accident instead of modifying my own post like I thought I was doing. Oops.
Anyways, in my mistake I was saying you can combine LAST WORDS ON EVERYONE. RESULTS IN A MORE POWERFUL LAST WORD WHILE ONLY USING ONE LAST WORD.
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EDIT: Massively derp'd on this one by quoting my own post on accident instead of modifying my own post like I thought I was doing. Oops.
Anyways, in my mistake I was saying you can combine LAST WORDS ON EVERYONE. RESULTS IN A MORE POWERFUL LAST WORD WHILE ONLY USING ONE LAST WORD.
Wait, what? What do you mean by combine?
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Each of the main characters (whichever you chose the scenario of) apparently has a "Super" last word they can pull off if all characters use their LW in the same turn.
Here's screenshots of the poosh post about it, with the picture of the final boss removed. Everything I could say about the matter would only be a crappier rewording of this post, so. http://puu.sh/dr0S http://puu.sh/dr1d
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Wait, what? What do you mean by combine?
See, the thing with this is that it can't be apparently less than all the party members - In other words, you need all five members. Someone tried with 4 members and it failed.
However, the problem is that the last word description didn't change at all, there are no cut-ins, apparently some of them don't work without cheating.
In other words it's not really officially implemented yet, and really only works at higher levels due to holding onto last words for longer.
Also, what Serela said.
But others have discovered the following: Byakuren's last word combination is the same as last game, Reimu's combination is high damage light spell that hits everything, Yukari's blocks all attacks, and Meiling's just does really high damage to one target.
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Welp, Chloe's a joke. Beat her with a level 16 party.
EDIT: and now a Kisumeget! She seems to be a debuffer, which means I'll probably want to make room for her, at least for bosses...
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http://puu.sh/dhH9 <--- Four of the monsters that won, according to Pooshlmer.
lol mine village :V
Moh Shuvuu is conspicuously absent from those pictures :V Wonder why?
(Undine, Lesser Vampire, Minetown and Succubus are those)
EDIT: and now a Kisumeget! She seems to be a debuffer, which means I'll probably want to make room for her, at least for bosses...
Kisume's Lv30 shikigami skill :motherofgod: :X
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Kisume's Lv30 shikigami skill :motherofgod: :X
I guess she's getting in! :V (what does it do translated wiki makes no sense)
Also picked up a Daiyousei and a Hatate. I should probably cycle them in at some point...
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I guess she's getting in! :V (what does it do translated wiki makes no sense)
It doesn't? D: I might be much too used to reading google translate, though. Reading garble-glish is second nature to me.
http://puu.sh/dxqu
A Large-Spread-Range physical attack that also debuffs target defense. The attack's power gets kind of garbled by google translate when there's an additional effect, admittedly; but the + makes it seem like it's probably at the least not weak.
I'm not sure what "in +" power equates to anyway, other then that I've seen it on chasers.
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Basically, that + in terms of stats debuffs means it does have a stronger debuff than a normal debuff attack would otherwise have.
However, I think it would be hard to tell the actual power without at least seperating the effect from the power.
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I'm pretty sure the + isn't related to the debuff, as it doesn't appear in relation to any buff/debuff moves that do not also have a damage factor (Which is a lot of them), while lots of damage moves and damage+effect combination moves have a + or minus. Google translate just garbles it together; the translation that comes out of damage+effect combo moves is universally messed up. You can't expect too much out of translator programs.
For the most part though, moves are understandable enough through the translator. There's a only a handful of skills that come to mind of which effects I'm not certain, most of which are field effects.
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Yep, I derp'd on that part.
However, the thing about these chasers is that + means it's stronger on that tier than average, and a lot of these also have different kanjis for how strong the physical attack is even if I can't read them for shit.
I think it would be better if the original power was posted in there.
That reminds me, what field effects are you looking at?
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That reminds me, what field effects are you looking at?
Google Translate is not sufficient for "Ether" and "Breakthrough", along with some others that I don't feel like combing through shikigami to find. I just remembered that these were on Murasa.
Google trans- http://puu.sh/dxXB
Jap - http://puu.sh/dxYp
D-Net's inbetween them but we know what that does.
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instead of using a machine translator just ask me:
It debuffs both enemy ATK and DEF. Note that the stat effect is reduces physical stats. As for the +, it just means it's stronger than the usual power listed on that move. Since there doesn't appear to be many hard values listed on the wiki...
ETHER: Creates a field that allows Conditional effects to strike more.
BREAKTHROUGH: Creates a field that increases the chances of critical hits of occurring.
The descriptions are wonky because of otakai (お互い) but all that just means is that since the move is a field, the effects apply to both enemies and allies.
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It debuffs both enemy ATK and DEF.
Ooooooh...
Oooh, that's good. Then it should stack with normal ATK and/or DEF debuffs, plus the core stat debuffs. That's really notable.
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yeah i have no issues with translating a gigantic list of skill names over time if google translate is going to lead to confusions like this.
:3
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It's just too bad that move, like other moves that debuff the atk/def/etc. stats themselves, seems impossible to land on the first tower boss.
Gah, why do only stats debuffs work on her and why are these worthless?
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For the most part, it's pretty straightforward, but more subtle things like that can confuse. But it's hard to tell about slayers (Sword skills) though, and a few skills that I can't quite remember...
I shouldn't be one to talk though, given that I haven't even as much as run the game yet >_>; I'm too much of a stickler for wanting to read all the dialogue. I shall contentedly wait, which isn't a bad thing, as it means all sorts of stuff will get patched by the developers, and possibly charts of character aptitudes appearing at some point!
I do wonder how long it will be before an expansion. Considering how the level cap is and the stairs leading to nowhere, and a few other details, it seems like it's a thing that will happen, after all :P
Still gotta finish GoS in any case. I got distracted off of DoD... finally hit the final stage in that today. 204 hours... I got so distracted by subquests in that >.>
...but back on topic, it is curious that a stat debuff would land on her and not be effective. But I lack the in-game quality to experiment with. All I know is that Koishi's base stat debuff spell is so pretty and costs a lot of mp, while other shikigamis have spells that are functionally similar but graphically and delay/mp different... and probably have lesser amounts of debuffing.
She does sound like a problem though, from what I've heard. The only thing that comes to mind which I haven't already heard tried would be attempting an evasion-based counter to her physicals (With ice wall against the water spells, of course), but I'm not sure how realistic it is, especially if Dex debuffs don't do anything. Just because she uses blunt attacks doesn't necessarily mean she has a lower accuracy... but it comes to mind for me.
From a video, though, it seems like she isn't too scary if you just take her on last. But I'm not sure how high of a level this guy is... and the upgraded version is a different matter. I remember hearing about some skill to increase physical resistance, but don't quite remember who it was on...
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Just got Murasa by pounding another demon's face in. Whee! You say she's got field effects, those may be useful.
Got a Peri, which is awesome, except that I don't really have more than one, maybe two sources for the primary elements, and every goddamn enemy has party-wide berserk or stun or paralyze or blind to make it useless, at least until my casters get faster. Found both Yuyuko and Shikieiki, so I've got what is probably going to be my final party: Reimu, Mokou, Yuka, Shikieiki and Yuyuko. Everyone is reasonably durable and tend to have fairly good stats across the board.
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Landing stat debuffs (STR down, VIT down, etc) on the first tower boss seems to work most of the time, but those debuffs hardly do anything at all. I don't know, maybe it's just because Reisen's debuff and Decrease are just bad? It's a pity that those are pretty much all you get up until finding Koishi. Also, debuffs on ATK, DEF, RES and so on didn't seem to work for me, so those don't help either... ah yeah, and she seems to get cursed fairly often (if you use a certain spear found pretty late in the game), but that's pretty much the worst status condition to inflict because it requires you to take damage to work. :V.
But yeah, the one thing I didn't try was buffing my evasion, but that makes sense because I don't even know if there's an evasion buff. Lyrica, for instance, only gets RES, HIT, ATK, DEF and MATK, so... maybe using Increase on AGI could work? That buff doesn't really seem to help much, either...
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Got Dragon Maid and Unicorn on the first battle. Dragon Maid is especially useful for stacking chases along with Orin or Letty.
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WELP.
Found the third tower, so I've cleaned house on all three strata minus longshot areas. The boss guarding it though can twoshot Shikieiki and Yuyuko with his AoE electric attack...which he spams.
This is not going to be fun.
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WELP.
Found the third tower, so I've cleaned house on all three strata minus longshot areas. The boss guarding it though can twoshot Shikieiki and Yuyuko with his AoE electric attack...which he spams.
This is not going to be fun.
That fight can be really easy if you bring along someone who can over write her field effects. Also an accuracy up since she is so weak physical attacks
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Also, don't attempt to go higher than 256 for STR, INT, etc. because that's the cap for the 6 core stats. Dunno if that can go higher in battle, though, via buffs.
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WELP.
Found the third tower, so I've cleaned house on all three strata minus longshot areas. The boss guarding it though can twoshot Shikieiki and Yuyuko with his AoE electric attack...which he spams.
This is not going to be fun.
Weird, I just fought him again (WHY DID I START ANOTHER GAME) and the fight went as smoothly as the first time (or even better, because this time I abused chasers and finished him in three turns). Never saw that killer AoE attack, or maybe I saw it, but it was so unimpressive I didn't think anything of it. Well, try spamming Elec resistance gears and shikigami on everyone.
By the way, Yuyuko might have nice stats on everything, but since her lowest one is INT she might not be that good of a spellcaster.
And, uh... does the Bardiche really give magical damage +10%?
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Yuyuko's int compared to her str is a pretty negligible difference. Only 5 points... at level 70, where you'll have tons of stat padding from equipment and shikigami (and buffs sometimes)
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Oh, that's right. I found a chest somewhere that triggered a message, much like the silver chests with the hookshot and the...thingy that lets you get past the red no entry symbols, but this was a regular chest. Anyone know what this is?
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Started this game a couple days ago. Pretty fun so far.
Picked Reimu at the start, then starting plinking away. Currently added a Nitori to my team who immediately replaced Utsuho (she seems rather prone to getting KO'd due to her meh HP), then found a desert like area where enemies had like 2x the HP, kept coming in groups of 4-5, did lovely amounts of damage (Watching something boom on my team for like 80 damage to those hit when my max HP levels are hovering around 70-110...), and gave me my first Game Over. Fantastic.
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You've been going north steadily, right?
That's the third Makai on the first stratum, and will probably be the last area you clear before heading down. I made that mistake too. :V Head west from the shrine, rather than north. You'll loop around and get there a few levels stronger and wipe mobs with ease.
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I started the game a few days ago but haven't had much time to play. I started with Byakuren, and spent a large amount of my time basically wandering around the fields outside of the shrine (if it's still playing your lead character's theme, I probably explored there). Picked up
Nitori
and Marisa, and whatever generic elemental shikigami's name is, Aya, and Yamame
as shikigamis. And more importantly, lots of warp points for easier access to places I need to go next.
Of course, I'm probably right around the point where I need to pick a place to explore next. And I'll probably be one character down for a bit, because I really want to swap Sanae out for someone else.
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Of course, I'm probably right around the point where I need to pick a place to explore next. And I'll probably be one character down for a bit, because I really want to swap Sanae out for someone else.
People catch up really fast in this, and with good shikigami to compensate for the low level you won't notice that heavy of a difference except that they die a bunch more until they level a bit. Damage-wise they'll still keep up. (I've switched out all but two of my party at this point, one multiple times. It's not so bad.)
You're probably better off deciding on a endgame party to shoot for early, though. Just because they can catch up doesn't make it that much fun to do if you do it with every single character.
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Oh, that's right. I found a chest somewhere that triggered a message, much like the silver chests with the hookshot and the...thingy that lets you get past the red no entry symbols, but this was a regular chest. Anyone know what this is?
Was that in the second desert area on the first stratum? That IS the preorder code chest - it only opens when you enter a preorder code at the third menu option at the title menu.
EDIT: Me not understand http://www.gensoukyou.org/wazabosyuu/. What does that one say?
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No, it was somewhere on the third stratum. Can't remember exactly where. :(
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Just got
Orin
. I'm not sure what level you're supposed to be at for that fight (I was 9), but that single-target fire attack hurts a lot. Heavily shifts the land towards fire, too.
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People catch up really fast in this, and with good shikigami to compensate for the low level you won't notice that heavy of a difference except that they die a bunch more until they level a bit. Damage-wise they'll still keep up. (I've switched out all but two of my party at this point, one multiple times. It's not so bad.)
You're probably better off deciding on a endgame party to shoot for early, though. Just because they can catch up doesn't make it that much fun to do if you do it with every single character.
Everything levels up really fast up until level 10 or so, but from then on it slows down considerably. The experience curve in this game seems a bit weird... but it doesn't matter that much, really, since the best thing you get from levels are more HP and MP. Also, shikigami start slowing down with their stat growth rate at around level 30, so I guess cycling them around at that point could be a nice idea if you're grinding something you're not using much. Or something like that.
By the way, if you are worried about crafting stuff in this game - don't be. It looks like it's much more lenient on this than GoS was, most likely because of the absence of character-specific weapons. For instance, I've just completed the third level (obviously no zombie killed yet) and I've been able to craft every weapon I found the recipe for, except for the ones that require Trapezohedron because I've only found one of them so far (anyway, the sword you get from it isn't even that great and I have no need for a new axe at this point), and it doesn't look like I'd be having much trouble making more armors either. No idea about accessories, though. Also, if you end up needing bamboos, rocks and so on, you can just visit any hookshot/sealed/longshot area and enjoy the 10% drop rate on those items there.
Also, Peri, I have no idea of how I managed to beat the game once without having found you. Oh god, chasers+breaths are so delicious (unless you find a group of four dragonflies and a guy who uses Fire Chaser on you, then it's just painful).
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Soooooo I'm back :V and it seems there's no word on the files for this game being readied for translation. Is there no interest or everyone's too busy?
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TheNewGuy posted on pooshlmer a screenshot of a translated line. It in fact is possible just like GoS, but the patches prevents the translation from being put in for the time being. That said, it has been 4 days since the latest patch, we all would like to go a week without a new patch at the minimum.
Anyways, I think the best way to go around translating would be to just translate the entire game before putting it into the game files, so that when patches change descriptions all the translators have to do is change the descriptions of things that were changed in the patch.
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You've been going north steadily, right?
That's the third Makai on the first stratum, and will probably be the last area you clear before heading down. I made that mistake too. :V Head west from the shrine, rather than north. You'll loop around and get there a few levels stronger and wipe mobs with ease.
Sure feels like I've been going north. I only made a side trip east to find a new area where Nitori was.
Looks like it's back to looking for that path I passed up then, thanks.
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EDIT: Me not understand http://www.gensoukyou.org/wazabosyuu/. What does that one say?
A vote for the strongest skill you want to see in the game.
If it qualifies, the skill will appear in the game(+α?).
Most likely the one with the most votes will appear in the game, but could be more than one skill.
Will be announced at 1/23, which could mean another patch, or not.
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So there's a possibility that even if one skill wins the most votes, we probably will see more skills added in the next patch.
At least that adds content, but I wonder how often they'll do contests to add more things, though.
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It's a good question. The shikigami contest wasn't surprising; I don't imagine making 5 shikigami takes much effort other then producing 5 shikigami-form sprites, and is a really cool thing for them to do, but the skill is, well, different!
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Especially for something like skills, out of every possible thing.
Anyway, given how the original character contest winner was a food Touhou, I expect something fun from the results of this one.
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Anyways, I think the best way to go around translating would be to just translate the entire game before putting it into the game files, so that when patches change descriptions all the translators have to do is change the descriptions of things that were changed in the patch.
It could still pose to be a hassle. Note that the case with GoS, translation became a lot more smooth when patches started dying down.
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A vote for the strongest skill you want to see in the game.
If it qualifies, the skill will appear in the game(+α?).
Most likely the one with the most votes will appear in the game, but could be more than one skill.
Will be announced at 1/23, which could mean another patch, or not.
Wait, is this google translation? Someone just said it was a second competition for a fan-made shikigami.
EDIT: Actually, is the quote I added to this one right or is this also TWO competitions, one for the skill and one for a fan-made shikigami?
EDIT2: Just checked with someone - looks like Sungho was correct. Sorry for the confusion.
Now for 1.09 patch news:
Ver1.09の変更点
・エピローグ演出を強化しました
・エフェクトを加筆しました
・特定のキャラが特定の武器を装備すると戦闘中にグラフィックが表示されない問題を修正しました
（ルーンアクス、オリハルコンナイフ装備時など）
・ソートがおかしかったアイテムが正しくソートされるようになりました
・マップやイベントの不具合を修正しました
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Fancier Ending, Added more skill effects.
Fixed a problem were certain characters' graphics won't show up when equipped with certain weapons.
(Rune Axe , Orichalcum Knife)
Corrected items with wrong sorting.(I think it's talking about the Alchemy/Synthesis menu)
Corrected some map and event errors.
Nothing too much, I think.
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Okay, found my way down to the second Stratum. In addition to the five shikigami I started with (for BYakuren, it's Ichirin, Letty, Rumia, Wriggle, and Minoriko), I have Aya, Yamame, Orin, all three Prismrivers, Mystia, and the snake-lady thing. I've also located the following party members: Patchouli, Mokou, Yuuka, Marisa, and Nitori (Byakuren starts with Remilia, YUyuko, Sunny, and Sanae). Am I missing any party members/shikigami (which is likely), and if so, where are they?
Also, is there a heal point in the second Stratum anywhere, or do I have to go back to the first Stratum to heal/change my party?
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Currently leveling up my new party members Patchy & Yuuka along with finding a couple new shikigami I had missed before. Getting Patchy was easy. Not so much for Yuuka. Boss fight to obtain her was...not pretty. I failed the first attempt, won the 2nd attempt, but the game crapped out on the scene afterwards so I had to refight the boss for a 3rd time. Only Reimu got real lucky to survive that attempt.
Guess I'll go about cleaning up as much of the 1st stratum as I can before descending into the next stratum.
Lv13 for Reimu/Marisa/Youmu and lv7 for Yuuka/Patchy right now.
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Also, is there a heal point in the second Stratum anywhere, or do I have to go back to the first Stratum to heal/change my party?
Considering that you can just map travel back to the shrine whenever you want, it's not that big a deal. But other than a few very specific places, I don't believe so.
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The only places you can't warp out of are the towers, and in those you can open a shortcut once you get to the end of them.
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I see.
What about missing party members/shikigami? 'Cause, you know, I highly doubt I found all of them. Who all is available in the first stratum (pre-hookshot, of course)?
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I see.
What about missing party members/shikigami? 'Cause, you know, I highly doubt I found all of them. Who all is available in the first stratum (pre-hookshot, of course)?
You're missing Hina. And somehow I overlooked Mystia...
Explored the first tower (those peacock demons are jerks), made a little bit of progress in the second stratum. There's this one particular enemy in the Netherworld that's a pain in the ass...looks like a hybrid between a bird and a hellhound. Had a short trip through the sunflower field and found another entrance to the Netherworld...IIRC I can has a hookshot and Youmu soon?
It's kinda interesting to see how some characters develop weapon skills. I gave Sanae a sword just because, and also gave Yuka one when I switched out Yuyuko for her. She still hasn't learned Demonbane or that other move that hits like a cross and has slayer effects, but she's also learned some of the later skills that Sanae has just learned (like the medium power column attack).
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Explored the first tower (those peacock demons are jerks), made a little bit of progress in the second stratum. There's this one particular enemy in the Netherworld that's a pain in the ass...looks like a hybrid between a bird and a hellhound. Had a short trip through the sunflower field and found another entrance to the Netherworld...IIRC I can has a hookshot and Youmu soon?
Hookshot's actually in Muenzuka. You can get there from the first Makai on the second stratum, and I advise doing so.
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You're missing Hina. And somehow I overlooked Mystia...
Is Hina the only one I'm missing? And where is she?
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Iirc Hina is in the forest area to the left of the leftmost tower on the first stratum.
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Hookshot's actually in Muenzuka. You can get there from the first Makai on the second stratum, and I advise doing so.
Got the warp for it, exploring the other parts of that Makai 1 there. Parsee and Ran get!
Uh, wanted the teleport for the second tower's guardian so I ended up fighting him. Managed to get him below half health at level 16, and eventually he started attacking twice per turn and spamming instant death :V Poison helped deal with his regeneration.
Anyone know what [強打：付喪神（高）] does? Atlas isn't really helping with that.
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Anyone know what [強打：付喪神（高）] does? Atlas isn't really helping with that.
High slayer effect against artifact spirit enemies, golem types etc.
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High slayer effect against artifact spirit enemies, golem types etc.
Thanks, Atlas had "Faint (Height)" after the colon, so I had no idea how I should interpret it (Google's translator was even more useless) :V Finally a decent random drop...I haven't gotten much other than crafting materials from enemies, but I also haven't been doing any grinding.
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Hey, at least the crafting system AND drops are actually better than it was in GoS.
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Hey, at least the crafting system AND drops are actually better than it was in GoS.
The problems is, right now there's nothing I would want to craft unless I were to upgrade some accessories, and the last time I looked there was nothing particularly interesting there (looked like it just added some stats to the elemental rings).
I'm hoping I'll find a chest with some better elemental weapon recipes in the near future. I'd really like something that has additional light/dark damage.
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Thanks, Atlas had "Faint (Height)" after the colon, so I had no idea how I should interpret it (Google's translator was even more useless) :V Finally a decent random drop...I haven't gotten much other than crafting materials from enemies, but I also haven't been doing any grinding.
Actually, Google translating one character at a time told me it was a high power slayer effect; the type was what I couldn't reason out. :V
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WELP.
Third tower boss one-shots Shikieiki. I guess that means no magic.
Despite godawful accuracy on the last couple rounds, I still manage to win on the first try. :toot:
EDIT: OKAY WHAT
the god damn jiangshi does 130 to Yuka with her basic attack
the last one? single digits
HOW DO I BEAT THIS
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Okay, I just stumbled onto a shrine area in the first Makai area in the second Stratum. It's a small, recruit-someone-here type of room, with only one entrance/exit, but there's nothing in the room. It's got to be used for something (there's even a warp point to it), but does anyone know what?
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Likely where you'd find someone that you started with, by the sound of it.
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So people said that characters couldn't possibly learn all weapon skills. I can confirm that's NOT EVEN TRUE AT ALL.
See, the issue with this is the way tech types work. If the tech type matches the skill move you're trying to get, you get no penalty at all. If for instance the tech type match ends up with X, which is the worst, you lose -80% of the chance to get the skill (So 100/1000 goes to 20/1000 in that case) AND +5 skill level on top of the normal requirement. While this kind of means you could spam regular attacks to learn almost everything in the game, the chances are MUCH more horrible on a X match and not only that, but you're going to get much more worse skill level requirements than if you used skills, and even then...
I willl now show you a example:
超次元破砕斬
Type:1
Enemy Level:23
Derived tech:次元斬
Skill level:20
Base learning chance:(10/1000)
This is Hyperdimensional Crusher, which I believe is a hammer skill. The tech type 1 characters have a 10/1000 chance to learn the skill and they need a skill level of 20. Youmu IS not a Tech Type 1, but rather a Tech Type 2. Tech Type 2 chars get X on matching to Tech Type 1 skills so she ends up with 2/1000 chance to learn the skill and they need a skill level of 25.
And GuyYouMetOnline, it appears you started with Sanae and that would have been where she was gotten if you hadn't chosen a main character that had her in her team. It's the same story with other characters that don't appear in a group with a main character.
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I sort of said something on the lines of that. If this game is like Romancing Saga 3, then each character has an affinity to specific weapons
and skills. And I know through experience in that game that there are skills that some characters can never learn. But that is for that specific
game, so this game may be completely different.
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I sort of said something on the lines of that. If this game is like Romancing Saga 3, then each character has an affinity to specific weapons
and skills. And I know through experience in that game that there are skills that some characters can never learn. But that is for that specific
game, so this game may be completely different.
Well except that every magical spell/physical spell/buff via shikigamis is determined by a shikigami's level requirement and they learn it automatically anyways, and merely having specific better weapon affinity doesn't mean you'll learn that specific weapon skill move faster. In fact, every weapon skill has a tech type and what the tech type is in addition to a character's tech type means that some of the weapon skills may actually be harder to learn even if you're good at learning weapon skill levels quickly like Youmu and Yuyuko (Yes, she's a surprisingly good learner in swords apparently) who learn sword skills at what is a quick leveling rate. So apparently while no weapon skill is barred from every characters, some of them are horrible at learning certain weapon skills even if they level that weapon skill quickly. And apparently from what I understand the weapon skill moves have no restrictions on who can learn what move, but it basically amounts to learning rate modifiers and skill level modifiers based on tech types solely. If I could post the tech type list for characters, you would sort of understand it better, but it seems to be speculation on that part, unfortunately, especially since it is missing a character.
I got this from http://blog.livedoor.jp/maroku/ on page 4, if a translator would care to read it (If they have beaten the game, that is). The latest update is on how strong the slayer effects are.
EDIT: 1.10 patch:
・ソフトリセットを長押しすると、以後リセットが効かなくなる問題を修正しました。
・式神のスキルで連続攻撃した際に２回目以降に主人が行動する問題を修正しました。
（見た目の不具合のみで、内部の処理は元々問題ありませんでした。）
・バトル中にＸボタンでコンディションを確認した際の解説を加筆しました。
また、フィールドの効果も確認できるようになりました。
・回復の魔法陣の当たり判定を大きくしました。
（ロード直後の当たり判定は小さいままです。一度入りなおすと大きくなります。）
・マップやイベントの不具合を修正しました
Wow, so soon? Must have been something important that they missed. I think this is now 2 more patches than vanilla GoS.
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・ソフトリセットを長押しすると、以後リセットが効かなくなる問題を修正しました。
・式神のスキルで連続攻撃した際に２回目以降に主人が行動する問題を修正しました。
（見た目の不具合のみで、内部の処理は元々問題ありませんでした。）
・バトル中にＸボタンでコンディションを確認した際の解説を加筆しました。
また、フィールドの効果も確認できるようになりました。
・回復の魔法陣の当たり判定を大きくしました。
（ロード直後の当たり判定は小さいままです。一度入りなおすと大きくなります。）
・マップやイベントの不具合を修正しました
1) Soft Reset bug where it did not work if the buttons were pressed too long was fixed
2) Bug involving Shikigami skills which hit multiple times was fixed. The bug itself is that multi-hit works only up to two times.
3) Enhanced condition viewer upon pressing X button in battle. Furthermore, you can view field effects here.
4) Magic circles which heal you will heal a lot more than before.
5) Fixed some errors involving the map and some events.
I got this from http://blog.livedoor.jp/maroku/ on page 4, if a translator would care to read it (If they have beaten the game, that is). The latest update is on how strong the slayer effects are.
Sparking in DoD does work like RomanSaGa 3 (Dunno why I said SF), but I'm not sure how it's spoiler-worthy in terms of story. You don't need to have beaten the game to know this stuff. I can go into detail or someone else can if I'm not around I guess, but only if people want to. Incidentally there was a bug where each sparking type had their skill availabilities reversed. :V
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So I heard that there are no more Spell Cards (or more accurately, character-specific skills like in GoS) and the playable characters are only capable in learning weapon-related skills.
Is there a story explanation for this? Or is it purely part of the gameplay?
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4) Magic circles which heal you will heal a lot more than before.
Wow, so fully healing you wasn't enough already? :o
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Wow, so fully healing you wasn't enough already? :o
Yeah, I was wondering about this one myself...
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I don't think it's referring to the actual healing circles. Have you noticed that you'll sometimes be healed while you're out exploring? I thought it was happening upon getting a new shikigami, but I could very easily be wrong about that. That healing may be what it's referring to.
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I don't think it's referring to the actual healing circles. Have you noticed that you'll sometimes be healed while you're out exploring? I thought it was happening upon getting a new shikigami, but I could very easily be wrong about that. That healing may be what it's referring to.
I have never noticed this. The only time I've been healed when out exploring that I've noticed is after boss fights - and again, that's to full.
???
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Current status : Mapped out everywhere I could reach on the 1st stratum after clearing out all previously visited areas to get Yuuka & Patchy leveled up. Also got several new weapons, armor, and various crafting materials from enemies. More Shikigami of course too. I'm fine with the Prismriver sisters and gaining the ability to buff & debuff stats finally.
Boss wise, took down the demon guarding the entrance to the 1st tower. While being a jerk and randomly throwing out an attack that made everyone lose their turn and having some rather strong ice magic, buffs and Reimu getting a LW charge kept everyone alive to the end of the fight.
Inside the 1st tower...cool new battle theme and a lovely little puzzle mechanic. Ended up reaching a healing point and a boss room. Opened up the shortcut back here, then checked the boss out.
*Looks at the boss's HP*
That might be a problem.
*Hits Yuuka with a physical that did 180 dmg to her, then does a power/magic charge*
That's a bigger problem.
*Boss does a party wide attack that OHKOs 3/5ths of my party and leaves the other two low on HP*
...I'm not supposed to be doing this fight right now, whoops D: *Dies the next turn*.
Guess I can safely go into the 2nd stratum now and check things out there after looking around the rest of the 1st tower for any treasures I missed.
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Wow, so fully healing you wasn't enough already? :o
the changelog isn't clear which magic circle it even is. it's definitely not those ones though :P
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I don't think it's referring to the actual healing circles. Have you noticed that you'll sometimes be healed while you're out exploring? I thought it was happening upon getting a new shikigami, but I could very easily be wrong about that. That healing may be what it's referring to.
Pretty much every cutscene in the game fully heals you.
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OH GOD I AM DUMB
The correct translation is: "The magic circle's hit detection got larger"
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Man...I dunno if I've been underleveled or what, but the area north of the sunflower field and the former hell has been giving me ridiculous amounts of experience. The boss where Murasa was pretty easy (not hard to survive his attacks), but I did relatively little damage to him per-hit. Poison (from the breakfast loli) turned out to be really good (again).
Now that I've got the undenier, is there any place I should revisit? Other than the area east of where you get Reisen I can't really recall any other those symbols.
And are the items for those material set recipes supposed to be really rare? I've only found three of 'em.
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Hookshot get! I've gotten Luna and Star, but I can't remember if there are any other hookshot areas in the first stratum. Are there, and if so, where are they?
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Check the mountains area and 3rd chaos plains area.
1. In the mountains, you want to start at the north exit to make it easier to find the hookshot spot there.
2. The hookspot in the other area is nearby where the leftmost tower is.
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Uguu~ I am barely playing through GoS and yet this game sounds like so much fun! I especially love fangames that allow a ridiculous amount of playable characters. >.< Should I finish GoS first or should I also start playing this?
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I found one of these last night:
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/Barrakketh/Touhou/th_mother_of_god.png) (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/Barrakketh/Touhou/?action=view¤t=mother_of_god.png)
I'm wanting to say it was a drop in Muenzeka (from the gargoyles). I imagine there are better defensive weapons later on in the game, but holy crap that magic resist. Also, that sprite totally looks like a tempered master sword from LTTP.
Is Chloe resistant to pierce? Remilia was doing incredibly poor damage to her. Byakuren and Sunny did the bulk of the damage to her with Starlight Whip and Star Blaze. My first attempt was aborted thanks to her last word killing off Byakuren (who had Orin for resurrection) and Remilia, the second time I don't think she used it at all. So, uh...any shikigamis I should try recruiting on the first or second stratums?
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Okay this is just obscene.
How the everloving hell do I beat the first tower boss? Party's around level 26-27 and she still oneshots everyone but Yuka and Mokou with her regular physicals. She has too many attacks that all do way too much damage even with circle or double circle ice and blunt resists and she doesn't take any damage. The absolute best I can pull out on her is maybe 150. HELP HELP HELP
If you're recommending specific skills, please tell me what they do and who has them, as I can't read most of this and don't know what's going on half the time!
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My most recent success against her was mostly thanks to Momiji and chaser abuse. Get at least a double circle resistance for blunt on your tank, use Momiji's provocation on her, then bombard the zombie with attacks of any element you want (I prefer fire, as it stops her from getting the land too close from ice) and use Peri to chase those attacks. Don't forget to use Buruburu's ice element barrier every turn, too.
Also, people on Poosh are mentioning how she's weak to being debuffed... weird, maybe I didn't test enough, then.
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I just spent the past two hours trying to beat the first tower's boss, and managed to do so at level 25. Just barely, at that...Byakuren ran out of MP to cast the skill that lets you nullify ice damage, so at that point I decided to just rush the boss down as best as I good, which mainly meant taking risks about not keeping heals up and abusing chasers and Ichirin's fire attack at the end (I had Eiki and Yuka as the last two people left alive).
Speaking of chasers, those were about the only way I could damage the boss (Eiki and Sanae couldn't do much damage directly, Yuka needed the MP for Momiji's skills, and I was conserving Remi's HP for resurrections and chasers). It managed to stall me out a few times with poorly timed sleeps/killing people, which is probably why I ran out of MP to use the ice shield.
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I do not have Burabura. Where is it, because it seems to be an absolute necessity?
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I do not have Burabura. Where is it, because it seems to be an absolute necessity?
North of the shrine, if you have the shortcut from the fairies' tree just go there. Other than that, I think they are random encounters anywhere close to the shrine so the field south might work. Personally, I went north based on what I could understand from the Japanese wiki.
I didn't know about it beforehand, but if the boss is vulnerable to defense and resistance debuffs the monster 新造人間サイコポリマー (from Muenzeka, enter from the Makai 4 side, looks like Jinzo from YuGiOh) learns "Manufacture Weakness" at level 20, which drops a resist by one level. You could use that to make it vulnerable to fire.
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Swapped out Yuuka and put Mokou back in as my team's tank for now. Cleaned up what I could of the 1st tower besides that boss, then went onto the 2nd stratum.
More awesome music here of course, new battle theme, and different enemies. Some of them are getting to be annoying now (Petro Breath using enemies, bah).
As for acquisitions, some nice item drops (Blunt weapon that can poison for my Reimu, some misc. crafting items & armor), a new character (Sanae), and a new shikigami (Ran).
Ended the session today by taking out the 2nd tower's guardian. It's a jerk. Second turn of battle it shifts the land heavily towards dark, then starts laying on the hurt. It's not too ba...oh wait it can use the single target instant death spell it's not ok now.
I lost the first attempt thanks to that (Which I wasn't expecting to win honestly, just wanted to see what the sucker could do).
Second attempt with a bit of shikigami & equipment shuffling was the winner. Instant Death spam can kiss my ass (If that demon had a multi target instant death spell I would have probably flipped), but being weak to light was a good thing. Only had Youmu & Marisa alive at the end, but whatever.
Now...what to do. Check out the tower for goodies & probably get pasted by the boss inside or stay outside and go north of the desert and see what I run into there? Choices, choices...
Everyone's around lv16-18 right now. Shikigami are about the same except for Ran who's like 8.
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Okay I did not realize that Buruburu (Burabura is the fire one, Buruburu is ice) has ZERO COOLDOWN. That skill along with Koakuma's Dark Illusion just COMPLETELY SHUTS HER DOWN.
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Now...what to do. Check out the tower for goodies & probably get pasted by the boss inside or stay outside and go north of the desert and see what I run into there? Choices, choices...
Everyone's around lv16-18 right now. Shikigami are about the same except for Ran who's like 8.
The second stratum tower boss is significantly easier than the first. 18 is probably a reasonable level to take her on.
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Poor, poor, poor Kogasa! :ohdear: Only worth 2 exp!
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She also seems weak to every permanent status :(
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Okay, Tenshi is pummeling the hell out of me. Any way to deal with Earth damage?
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I think I recall hearing she countered elec attacks with scary things. Possibly was a different boss I'm thinking of though...
In any case, could use something with the Jammer field effect to raise your earth resistance a bunch.
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Actually, Tenshi counters the shock condition by using 4 COMPLETELY separate Jammers in a single turn.
I would avoid skills that inflict shock. Same goes for weapons as well.
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Third stratum recruitable monster オシラサマ has many field skills, one of it's two starting ones including ジャマー, which is Jammer.
Here's a picture of it I stole off poosh :] http://pooshlmer.com/wakaba/src/1325465242349.png
Alternatively, her other starting field is un-overwriteable, so Tenshi's jammers wouldn't do anything.
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Oshirasama is being incredibly obtuse about joining.
By the way, does anyone have a list of the longshot areas? Got the one in Heaven (FEVER TIME) but where else?
EDIT: of course the next one I kill after this joins :V
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Forest of Magic (next to the Misty Lake exit), Suzuran Field, and I think that's all of them.
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Where's the one in the Suzuran Field? Cannot find. :(
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There are pretty much only two things there, Medicine and the longshot spot, so it's not like it's too hard to find.
I think you just need to go down and left as much as you can, but my memory about that is a bit foggy.
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[23:58] theshim ahahaha
[23:58] theshim ROD OF REMORSE TO THE FACE
[23:58] theshim POETIC JUSTICE = SERVED
Damnit Tenshi took way too many tries. Boss that does ridiculous damage AND spams instant death and petrify = do not want.
But finishing her with Shikieiki's last word was just too damn good.
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I'm clueless on where to go next after beating Chole... I got Satori, on Yukari's route. ???
Is there anything else, I need to do...
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beat the bosses of all three towers
And then ~*~things~*~ happen
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2nd tower cleared. Enemies went from steamrolled to goddamn annoying as hell. Mind Flayers manage to suck even more than they did in GoS (And they were bad enough there!). Angel dudes with a cheapass OP multitarget light spell that does like 100+ damage, and assassins that are basically the same as they appeared in GoS. I'm pretty sure those two enemies were responsible for two of my party wipes during the dungeon.
Oddly enough the boss of the tower was not quite as annoying. Yeah I lost the first time as I was getting used to what she could pull off (Charge up into what I think is a row based attack that can hit for 200+ damage and basically OHKO anyone at this point? Bah).
Second try? Basically Mokou saved my ass at one point. I thought I was gonna lose again cause it was just her and Patchy alive at one point while getting lucky several times that her charge up move missed. Then Mokou got a LW and I basically won it from there.
Rewards after leaving the tower were a Satori & a kedama as new shikigamis and the ability to recruit monsters as shikigamis. Only got one in such a fashion though (Some kind of giant wheel with a face).
Ended the day by going to Muenzuka and picking up the hookshot. Yay I can finally check out some of those points I couldn't get past before now. Maybe get some more monster shikigamis too.
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Monster shikigami vary from useless to awesome. There are only a couple I would say are mandatory, at least until the final tower.
Peri (Chasers make everything so much easier)
Buruburu (For the first tower boss, and only for the first tower boss, but combined with Koakuma it makes her a joke)
Dragon Maid (Circle resists and breaths for all four elements as well as a pretty good single buff, great for hitting chasers with Peri)
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beat the bosses of all three towers
And then ~*~things~*~ happen
Erp... I can't beat the First tower boss yet... so, can anyone show me the way to the Long Shot...? :ohdear:
Also, can anyone post a screenshot of Buruburu so, I can start training up for the first tower boss.
I already got the Hook Shot, the shikigamis, and party members that the hook shot points lead to so, I just need to find out where the heck to go next.
Minus Tower 1... :matsuriscowl:
I'll post some screen shots of my current party and shikigamis to show a better picture.
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Longshot is in the final dungeon. You cannot miss it.
Buruburu is the zombie-like thing that appears in the hookshot area just north of the shrine, where the Three Fairies are. It's not a very good shikigami overall, but the move that nulls all water damage for 1 turn only costs 5 mana and has zero cooldown, so one character should do nothing but that all fight. She still hits like a truck, and she should still be done last.
You need to now go down to the third stratum. I don't remember exactly where the stairs are, so check areas that you still have undiscovered points in. You'll fight and recruit Shikieiki there.
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Longshot is in the final dungeon. You cannot miss it.
Buruburu is the zombie-like thing that appears in the hookshot area just north of the shrine, where the Three Fairies are. It's not a very good shikigami overall, but the move that nulls all water damage for 1 turn only costs 5 mana and has zero cooldown, so one character should do nothing but that all fight. She still hits like a truck, and she should still be done last.
You need to now go down to the third stratum. I don't remember exactly where the stairs are, so check areas that you still have undiscovered points in. You'll fight and recruit Shikieiki there.
AH THEN I have Buruburu, which I didn't know I had recruited yesterday after randomly running around like a chicken.
And I take the final dungeon is on the third stratum, which I do not have any idea how to get to so, some directions to there would be nice... but, thank you for the help.
First, I need to get ready for a Doctor's appointment then, I'll comb the dungeons with unknown points on DoD.
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Monster shikigami vary from useless to awesome. There are only a couple I would say are mandatory, at least until the final tower.
Peri (Chasers make everything so much easier)
Buruburu (For the first tower boss, and only for the first tower boss, but combined with Koakuma it makes her a joke)
Dragon Maid (Circle resists and breaths for all four elements as well as a pretty good single buff, great for hitting chasers with Peri)
I think Sylph's 電光石火 lets your party act first (a field effect that might be nice for bosses). The 新造人間サイコポリマー (Jinzo) enemy lets you give enemies weaknesses (or make their existing ones worse), and eventually gets ○ resistances for physical attacks.
I dunno about useful he is later in the game, but the lesser demon in the second tower has decent stats, ◎ resistance against dark (upgrades into a star), and some rather strong dark attacks (Demon Flare has 250 power).
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Where is the Jinzo enemy? Because judging from screenshots, applying and then exploiting weaknesses seems to be the only way to reliably deal with bosses later on.
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Where is the Jinzo enemy? Because judging from screenshots, applying and then exploiting weaknesses seems to be the only way to reliably deal with bosses later on.
I posted it on the previous page. It's in Muenzeka, Makai 4 side. Don't go into the same "screens" that it shares with the main entrance, but the areas near where I think you'd recruit Yuyuko (she was a character I started with, so I can't confirm).
I'm not sure whether there's another enemy later in the game that shares that skill, but it seems to be part of how the "holy shit huge damage" screenshots on pooshlmer are made.
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Welp, thanks to An Awsome Person's advice, I found a pathway in the Garden of the Sun on the 2nd Stratum while running around, and I got Murasa although, the boss to get her was... being a troll.
After getting Murasa while running around Makai 4, I found Daiyousei and caught her.
Let's see what else shikigamis and people I will find!~ :3
I'm grateful for the advice and will now apply it throughout the rest of my DoD run as Yukari. :matsurismirk:
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Did anyone get any of the Yukkuri bonus enemies as a shikigami?
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Well isn't this some crap... I fought Shikieiki the second time, after the first time went wrong.
I managed to get her HP down to a little bit about in the hundreds area, decided to use Patchouli's Last Word to finish her off, and I ended up getting NUKED!
Is there something I missed ... or did I not notice a gimmick? ???
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Well isn't this some crap... I fought Shikieiki the second time, after the first time went wrong.
I managed to get her HP down to a little bit about in the hundreds area, decided to use Patchouli's Last Word to finish her off, and I ended up getting NUKED!
Is there something I missed ... or did I not notice a gimmick? ???
When she gets low on health (~500 HP I think) she'll display a message that she's concentrating all her power, and then next turn nuke you for unsurvivable amounts of damage. You either need to burn her down within that turn or use Mokou and/or Nitori's last words to survive it.
Edit: I think the message when she's preparing to do it is 全力集中, but I'm basing that off of memory so it might be slightly wrong.
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I forgot to link the results of the skill contest but here you go: http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/waza_senkou/
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Did anyone get any of the Yukkuri bonus enemies as a shikigami?
Got the Metal Yukkuri early. No luck with any other ones.
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Congratulations to the following:
瞬華終刀 :by 匿名
Shunkashuntou Flashing Flower Ending Blade
ハール・エクスクルージョン :by sa1
Hall Excursion
スターレイン :by れっど
Star Rain
斧技：マキ割りビッグバン :by ある
Axe Skill: Rolling Splitting Big Bang
バタン⑨ :by chabo
Button 9
スレッジメテオ:by えんる
Sledge Meteo
猛牛バズーカ！ :by どっと
Fierce Bull Bazooka!
試作型幻想郷破壊爆弾 :by パープル
Experimental Model Gensokyo Destruction Bomb
ハイゼンベルクストライク:by 槭樹
Heisenberg Strike
ラグナロクの鐘:by 朱葉
Bell of Ragnarok
Speaking of, Sikieiki's fuck off wave attack limit does 666 fixed damage to the party. Just as a heads up.
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When she gets low on health (~500 HP I think) she'll display a message that she's concentrating all her power, and then next turn nuke you for unsurvivable amounts of damage. You either need to burn her down within that turn or use Mokou and/or Nitori's last words to survive it.
Edit: I think the message when she's preparing to do it is 全力集中, but I'm basing that off of memory so it might be slightly wrong.
Ah, thank you and no biggie 3 times the charm, I got her with Remilia and Yukari finishing her off with Spear moves. While Sanae/Lyrica buffed their attacks and healed along with Patchouli. Youmu helped the buffers using Lunasa but, she also, attacked too. It wasn't that bad but, the Nuke surprise was a big troll bomb last round. This time I rushed her down.
Now, I'm stuck in area five of the Desert area of Stratum 3, is there something I need to do??? :V
It keeps looping and looping... :getdown:
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Now, I'm stuck in Area Five of the Desert area of Stratus 3, is there something I need to do??? :V
It keeps looping and looping... :getdown:
hurry up and finish the towers already :getdown:
i might have been thinking of something else :derp:
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Also, just to note I HATE THESE DANG CURSE SPAMMING ANUBIS!!! :matsuriscowl:
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Now, I'm stuck in area five of the Desert area of Stratum 3, is there something I need to do??? :V
It keeps looping and looping... :getdown:
You are not supposed to be there! Ghost sounds. Ooooooooo. Come back after beating all towers!
Just go the other way, finding your way through the Forest of Magic isn't that hard. Misty Lake is a bit tricky, but as long as you remember that fog in this game is somehow a warping mechanic and that there are fog in the middle of two rocks in a lot of places, that place becomes a lot easier to navigate.
As for the Yama, it's weird, I've fought her in two games already and I've never had a single problem with her. Actually, she didn't even ever get to charge her judgment.
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As for the Yama, it's weird, I've fought her in two games already and I've never had a single problem with her. Actually, she didn't even ever get to charge her judgment.
If you burst past her limit it's very possible not to see Full Charge come up ever.
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Got Kaguya and Eirin down to a quarter health on the first try. This is doable.
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Did a bit of hunting with my new fangled hookshot while at the same time replacing Patchy with Sanae so I could play around with her and see how her stats develop.
Added several shikigami to my collection, including Momiji, Star Sapphy & Luna Child, and Kisume from a random battle with her. Sunny Milk joined as a new party member, but I don't think I'll use her. She seems like she'd be at Utsuho levels of getting KO'd often so...yeah.
Right now exploring the southern part of the 2nd stratum. There were a couple areas around the 2nd stratum I could not find a path to go deeper into. One was in Muenzuka (Where I found an item that I would only assume I'd need to recruit Yuyuko) , the other is the area south of the first desert area of the 2nd stratum (Where I'd suspect someone like Youmu or Yuyuko would reside in).
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Sunnymilk has similarly terrible health and defense, but far, far more POT than Utsuho. For whatever that's worth.
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You are not supposed to be there! Ghost sounds. Ooooooooo. Come back after beating all towers!
Just go the other way, finding your way through the Forest of Magic isn't that hard. Misty Lake is a bit tricky, but as long as you remember that fog in this game is somehow a warping mechanic and that there are fog in the middle of two rocks in a lot of places, that place becomes a lot easier to navigate.
As for the Yama, it's weird, I've fought her in two games already and I've never had a single problem with her. Actually, she didn't even ever get to charge her judgment.
OOOOOOOOH ok~ Time to find my way out of the desert~
I founded the pass to get past the red stop signs at Former Flames of Hell.
Encountered a few Yukkuri Towers which made me squeal with delight while they ran like crazy which, made me cry.
But, now I need get to Forest of Magic, if I can find it that is, wahahahaha!~
Thanks, Curvy now I feel much better~
Although, finding Flandre and using her Laevetein I find that she hits hard like a semi-truck with buffs and does 1,000+ damage to monsters.
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Sunnymilk has similarly terrible health and defense, but far, far more POT than Utsuho. For whatever that's worth.
For this reason, Sunny is actually more durable then Marisa as well (Although Marisa's POT is not as bad as Utsuho's). For that matter, she's a good bit more durable then Patch, but that's nothing surprising.
Comparing all of those people to eachother is a little harder due to differing VIT counts in addition to POT, but Sunny is pretty much more durable then all of them (Marisa/Utsuho have quite negligibly higher hp/vit then Sunny with far less POT and Patch pales in all defensive stats in comparison to her)
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Speaking of, Sikieiki's fuck off wave attack limit does 666 fixed damage to the party. Just as a heads up.
And 333 damage to bosses :V Speaking of fixed damage, those assholes in the third stratum's Makai that have Minus can DIAF.
That demon that you have to fight when you find Suwako is a jerk. I need to plan for that fight a bit more, because his トリシッククラウド spell is a pain and he buffs himself up so much that my physical attackers can't do much. トリシッククラウド spam is my main problem...I decided to go to Acheron, maybe I'll manage to recruit an Oshirasama.
For this reason, Sunny is actually more durable then Marisa as well (Although Marisa's POT is not as bad as Utsuho's). For that matter, she's a good bit more durable then Patch, but that's nothing surprising.
Comparing all of those people to eachother is a little harder due to differing VIT counts in addition to POT, but Sunny is pretty much more durable then all of them (Marisa/Utsuho have quite negligibly higher hp/vit then Sunny with far less POT and Patch pales in all defensive stats in comparison to her)
I ended up replacing Sunny (who was a starter character) with Eiki. She did well when not getting hit by physical attackers.
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Dispel makes that fight a good chunk easier. Star Sapphire's a good early source for it.
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Dispel makes that fight a good chunk easier. Star Sapphire's a good early source for it.
Jinzo also has it (my bad, now that he is in my party he is called SHINZO). I have both, so I'll try giving that a shot.
Poison does pretty good damage against him (breakfast loli's poison does 125 damage/turn, and outdamages his regeneration field). I should probably try using Murasa's Final Anchor to counter that (I never used her for anything but D-net).
EDIT: Forgot about Murasa, but dispel and chaser abuse won the fight.
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The boss to get Suwako is also, weak to wind just a heads up.
But, even then I have the same problem as Barrakketh with the boss.
I have to fire up Star Sapphire to Dispel his buffs. :matsuriscowl:
Which, results in me getting killed by トリシッククラウド spam galore or Physical Attack to the face. :V
Although my equips are up to date, he is still a pain. :derp:
Hence, that I'm stuck... on that troll boss until, I get some backup.
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I used SHINZO for the dispel instead of Star, but my strategy was simple:
- Yuka uses provoke, Ichirin's lightning attack as needed. Had blunt resist acessory on.
- Remi used Lightning Chaser when it was up and my spells weren't on cooldown. She has a spear attack that can dispel, so I used that as needed.
- Byakuren had SHINZO for dispel, Ran for row heal, Sylph for lightning attacks, and the earth resist accessory on.
- Eiki had Parsee for healing, Dragon Maid for resists/lightning breath (good enough to land manipulation/chasers).
- Sanae had Minoriko for healing, Aya for lightning attacks, and the shikigami you get at the same time as Yuka for poison (125/150 damage a turn is nice). Had the earth resist/lightning weakness accessory on
Keep heals up, make sure to dispel his buffs, spam chasers, win fight. My characters were level 27/28.
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TRANCE HALP
KAGUYA AND EIRIN WHAT DO
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I used SHINZO for the dispel instead of Star, but my strategy was simple:
- Yuka uses provoke, Ichirin's lightning attack as needed. Had blunt resist acessory on.
- Remi used Lightning Chaser when it was up and my spells weren't on cooldown. She has a spear attack that can dispel, so I used that as needed.
- Byakuren had SHINZO for dispel, Ran for row heal, Sylph for lightning attacks, and the earth resist accessory on.
- Eiki had Parsee for healing, Dragon Maid for resists/lightning breath (good enough to land manipulation/chasers).
- Sanae had Minoriko for healing, Aya for lightning attacks, and the shikigami you get at the same time as Yuka for poison (125/150 damage a turn is nice). Had the earth resist/lightning weakness accessory on
Keep heals up, make sure to dispel his buffs, spam chasers, win fight. My characters were level 27/28.
I'm playing as Yukari~
But, yeah I just got Hatate and Kanako.
I'll see if leveling up will do for me. Since I'm around in the 24/23 range, I just need to up my A-game and I'll be good.
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TRANCE HALP
KAGUYA AND EIRIN WHAT DO
koishi's debuffs help cut down the damage a lot and at least Subterranean Rose should land a good amount of the time, I know that much
as for whether you want to kill them at the same time or seperate, Eirin revives Kaggy for like 2500 and while I'm not sure about Kaguya, I've -heard- she has a move that revives Eirin for full, but I have no idea if that is true.
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Random fun fact: Note that the revive that heals for 2,500 to Kaguya used to revive her at 2 hp. You can imagine how this completely made the fight a joke. :V
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koishi's debuffs help cut down the damage a lot and at least Subterranean Rose should land a good amount of the time, I know that much
as for whether you want to kill them at the same time or seperate, Eirin revives Kaggy for like 2500 and while I'm not sure about Kaguya, I've -heard- she has a move that revives Eirin for full, but I have no idea if that is true.
Kaguya uses Elixir to revive Eirin to full :V
The best way to defeat both of them at the same time is to activate Field Effect Colosseum, which you can get on Murasa.
Colosseum prevents HP recovery and revival skills on both sides, neutering their revival skills completely.
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Revival is not the problem! Not getting SPATTERED is!
And where the hell is Koishi? ???
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And where the hell is Koishi? ???
Some hookshot or longshot area or something in Suzuran Fields.
At level 20 she'll learn her Subterranean Rose debuff. She has awesome stat boosts, too!
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I've been through Muenzuka a bajillion times, and just check it again: there is only one area requiring the hookshot, which is where I found Yuyuko IIRC. There is no Koishi. I also don't have Medicine or Nue, and I think along with Sakuya those are the only Touhou characters I'm missing.
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Suzuran Fields =/= Muenzuka
Muenzuka is red higanbana, Suzuran is all purpley. You learn something new every day! (I'm sorry that I can't give more specific then this :C)
I have no idea where Medicine is, but Nue is a rather small shadoweh on the ground in... ah just read this :I http://puu.sh/ev0m
edit:This video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhDYvFMcwy4&feature=plcp&context=C334a365UDOEgsToPDskLT904241jpGtLxgK4UlaX4) is about the extent of the help I can give in finding Koishi, and unfortunately it only shows the screen that has the hookshot in it and what the overall style of the backround is. Hope it helps!
I also just realized that Muenzuka and Suzuran Fields could possibly be a conjoined area, I wouldn't know about that. So I might look stupid with my original comment! Or maybe not. Depends on what the actuality is. *Shrug*
Edit again:Oh nevermind a little further in the video it also shows which area is Suzuran Fields. Lower left of third stratum. So yay.
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Koishi get. Thank you!
EDIT: And a Nue. I actually had never gone that way!
EDIT2: And now a Sakuya!
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Edit again:Oh nevermind a little further in the video it also shows which area is Suzuran Fields. Lower left of third stratum. So yay.
Yep, different stratums so you can't get the two confused.
I was a little amused by the fact that the suzuran flowers in the area are used to slow you down. Like Medicine's EX attack in PoFV :)
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Yeah, that was my favorite part of the Suzuran Field. There are even slopes everywhere, which only contribute to the slowdown effect! And there's also that delicious Poison Body ~ Forsaken Doll in the background.
By the way, I found it funny how that earth demon gave me hell in my first playthrough, but on the second one I just spammed chaser + lightning attacks and he went down amazingly fast. Didn't even have to dispel him.
As for Kaguya and Eirin, I wondered if Colosseo could actually stop their revival spam, but never bothered trying it. Welp, that makes things much easier.
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Woo~
After fixing up my shikigamis and replacing Patchouli with Eiki, I had the best fight ever and won getting Suwako, which made me happy.
Now, to go knock down the 3rd Tower guardian to get the Longshot. :3
I'm tired of being taunted by Longshot spots!!! :V
Edit: Hrm... but, first is there anything about the 3rd Tower guardian I need to know about... I already know it's weak to Earth, but I need to make sure I'm properly equipped.
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By the way, I found it funny how that earth demon gave me hell in my first playthrough, but on the second one I just spammed chaser + lightning attacks and he went down amazingly fast. Didn't even have to dispel him.
I've found that I do pretty poor damage on most bosses. Like on the earth demon, I think Thunderclap was doing 120-160 damage (depending on where the land was). Not good for a skill that you can't spam every turn. Chasers are how I've been getting my damage output into "not terrible" territory. My casters were doing <20 damage/hit on the first tower's boss, Remi was only getting 100-110 on the chasers.
Sometimes I wonder if I've been underleveled compared to what the bosses were designed to be fought at :3
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Edit: Hrm... but, first is there anything about the 3rd Tower guardian I need to know about... I already know it's weak to Earth, but I need to make sure I'm properly equipped.
She's also weak to every physical element, and it might be a better idea to attack that weakness because of some cool things she does once you throw rocks at her. Unless you have the Cybele or whatever that earth spear should be called, as she takes extra damage from both weakness and doesn't do anything funny when that hits her.
I remember dealing really poor damage once too, but I think that in this playthrough I decided to use more skills and that somehow did more damage than before. Not that I was just using normal attacks before, but who knows. Maybe I am better leveled in comparison to back then?
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She's also weak to every physical element, and it might be a better idea to attack that weakness because of some cool things she does once you throw rocks at her. Unless you have the Cybele or whatever that earth spear should be called, as she takes extra damage from both weakness and doesn't do anything funny when that hits her.
I remember dealing really poor damage once too, but I think that in this playthrough I decided to use more skills and that somehow did more damage than before. Not that I was just using normal attacks before, but who knows. Maybe I am better leveled in comparison to back then?
Only took me two tries on, beating the boss wahahahaha~
Thanks to a few treasures I found in the Tower, after my victory over the Tower 3 boss, I found 1 Shou and Nazrin who was more annoying than the boss. :V
Now, I'm trying to find out WHERE THE HECK IS THE LONG SHOT IN THE TOWER??? :derp:
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Okay, you just got there and there's this part full of Beholders who make the lives of your casters hell, right? After that's done, you'll find an area that looks like a town in middle east. THEN after you're completely done with that part, you'll find a small area that looks just like the first one, and the chest with the Longshot will be right there smiling at you.
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Only took me two tries on, beating the boss wahahahaha~
Thanks to a few treasures I found in the Tower, after my victory over the Tower 3 boss, I found 1 Shou and Nazrin who was more annoying than the boss. :V
Now, I'm trying to find out WHERE THE HECK IS THE LONG SHOT IN THE TOWER??? :derp:
Let me say this once and for all.
The longshot is not in the three towers! It is in the main central tower, which is the final dungeon that only becomes accessible after beating the three bosses. You cannot miss it.
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WHich shikigami get chasers, and where can I find them?
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WHich shikigami get chasers, and where can I find them?
Peri gets elemental chasers, and can be found in the ghost mountain (second stratum). Shou and Ace Power get Saint Chaser (light), Zakkumu (treant thing, also in ghost mountain) learns whatever the dark chaser is called.
Some other enemies get specific chasers, but Peri is the big one.
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Did a bunch of stuff today. Cleared out several new areas real well, gained some new shikigamis.
Daiyousei with a ice based chaser move? Yes please.
Getting a Peri that has chasers for fire/ice/earth/thunder? Damn straight I love that.
Chasers are SO goddamn strong. Of course, enemies can use them too. Enemy that uses a fire chaser + 2 enemies with a full party fire attack? Yeah that happened to me today. It didn't end well.
Also snagged up a Murasa and beat up the boss guarding her.
Now to decide on where to go next. Either make way to Muenzuka and hopefully come in a different entrance to reach areas there I couldn't get to before or head to that area in the clouds at the southern part of the 2nd stratum. Choices, choices...
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Let me say this once and for all.
The longshot is not in the three towers! It is in the main central tower, which is the final dungeon that only becomes accessible after beating the three bosses. You cannot miss it.
Ehehehehe... sorry for being so forgetful ._."
But, yeah I'll try now to beat the 1st Tower boss.
@Anima Zero: Oh yeah the HD Enemy in Former Flames of Hell has a Fire chaser move and the Wolves at Misty Lake have Ice chasers. I might have to find me some chasers before going after the 1st Tower boss.
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Yukari's starting shikigami Chen also starts with Sword Chaser, which is a thing :V
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And IIRC Ichirin (Byakuren's) gets Lance Chaser.
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And IIRC Ichirin (Byakuren's) gets Lance Chaser.
Yeah.
Star Platinum and Yuugi get Axe Chaser.
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Yukari's starting shikigami Chen also starts with Sword Chaser, which is a thing :V
Sweet~ The more the merrier~
I also, founded out that the boss at the first tower has Vortex... I HATE FLIPPING VORTEX!!!! :getdown:
But, ick it seems that I have a problem with fighting the boss MP wise due to me having to buff and heal.
I need a way to keep the boss from trying to shift the Field towards Ice.
I know Murasa's D-Net helps a bit against her recovery when the Field is Ice, BuraBura for Ice Null, and Koakuma for Dark Illusion.
It seems so weird, I do have a Peri shikigami myself and didn't use it... whoopsie...
I'll see if I can have Remilia or Youmu abuse Fire chasers.
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I spammed fire attacks and fire chasers. Helps keep the field shifted towards fire. Also, there's a fire sword you can craft which will give you a free chaser activation if you need it (since my casters also had to heal, I could have a character do a normal attack for the chaser activation and spot heal since they didn't do much damage their selves).
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How to beat the boss in several easy steps:
- Spam Ice Wall every turn (neuters offense)
- Spam Fire land and then use Fire elemental attacks (neuters regen, makes you do damage)
- Use D-Net
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What exactly does D-Net do?
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What exactly does D-Net do?
Field effect that constantly generates damage on turn-by-turn basis. Basically, it does damage to everyone on the field. Murasa and a very late-game Shikigami have it. Murasa gets it at Lv21, the monster Shikigami has it right from the start.
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Also prevents running which has yukkuri applications (Must use a different field effect on the next turn as they counter it with a regeneration field)
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How to beat the boss in several easy steps:
- Spam Ice Wall every turn (neuters offense)
- Spam Fire land and then use Fire elemental attacks (neuters regen, makes you do damage)
- Use D-Net
Fire land is what Alice has right, correct me if I'm wrong on this.
Also, I might take up on the offer of getting myself the Fire Sword.
Right now, I'm trying to hunt down a Dragon Maid which, going bad... since they don't pop up often which makes me sad.
However, when I do kill one even, if I have Satori equipped, they don't seem to want to join.
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You don't need Satori equipped to get monsters to join.
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Ah, I know but, I prefer furthering my chances of getting said monster to join than having to fight the same monster over and over.
However, thank you Awesome for reminding me.
I'm proud to say after 6 attempts I now have a Dragon Maid in my shikigami collection.
Now I need to train my party which consists of Yukari, Youmu, Sanae, Eiki, and Mokou.
I also, need to train some of my shikigamis so, I can see if I can play with some new skills.
Edit: And while running around Muenzuka looking around, I managed to snag me a Shinzo in my party, who was more willing to join.
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I don't think having Satori equipped increases the chance either.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11701.msg778991.html#msg778991 for the Jammer shikigami.
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Powered through Kaguya and Eirin with fire chasers, buffing the hell out of Mokou, and dumb luck. Levels were 34-35.
Of course I then go straight for the redux fights! And the poor jiangshi is just as easily trivialized by Buruburu/Koakuma combo, so she's already down!
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Why the heck by some odd random chance when said monster is mentioned I seem to always already have the shikigami in my party... sheesh.
Thank you Serela.
Also... that First Tower boss is being a, douchebag... SERIOUSLY, MUST I GRIND MORE TO TOPPLE THE COLOSSAL WATER JIANGSHI THAT TORMENTS PEOPLE???
-holds up a sign that says "Please Nerf the Jiangshi"-
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I [barely] managed to beat the first tower's boss at level 25. No Jammer, no later weapons (didn't even explore the third stratum), no Koakuma for Dark Illusion.
Fire spell/ability spam + Fire Chaser, burabura (that's the ice one, right?) for its ice barrier spell, and the rest was about not dying. If you have a character with Earth Wall (I was using the Prismriver sister with it...Lyrica?) that can help your squishier characters survive a melee attack from the boss.
If you're not using Momiji's Provoke skill, do so.
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No patch in at least a few days, decided to start it up again. A quick run around the first stratum makes me realize I actually missed Marisa's house somehow.
While I'm taking my trip down memory lane, I'm picking up all the monster shikigami as well. I still have to find the metal yukkuri somehow, but it's rather hard to find. Any ideas where to get this little critter?
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They appear in later places too, sometimes en masse.
I've also heard they appear at some first stratum hookshot area that I heard had chests meant to be stuff from the prologue in case you missed it.
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Ice Wall completely neuters the boss' offense so I'm not really sure why dying is the issue :wat:
More interestingly cause you have a pretty solid character lineup going on, so...
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I've also heard they appear at some first stratum hookshot area that I heard had chests meant to be stuff from the prologue in case you missed it.
I can confirm that that place exists, but I'm not sure about yukkuris there. There was one chest there with recipes (I think it was the A-C material sets) and a bunch of chests that were already opened for me.
The location east of Eintei sealed off with the "denier" mark has three enemy spawns that can be Yukkuri Sisters. I have yet to kill one of those bastards before they fled...somehow I managed to avoid getting any multi-hit attacks for my sword users, so I'm gonna have to consult the JP wiki to see what skill they derive from.
Ice Wall completely neuters the boss' offense so I'm not really sure why dying is the issue :wat:
More interestingly cause you have a pretty solid character lineup going on, so...
At the level I did it, she was capable of potentially one-shotting my squishy characters with her melee attack. Considering I had Remi (not so durable herself) and three mages, if she got lucky and hit her upper damage range I'd lose a character and have trouble resurrecting them (Ice Wall activates before Resurrection, so a full-screen or column ice attack means they'd die again).
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Any specific tips for Kisume? I don't mean beating her - I mean actually FINDING her. I know she's a rare encounter in Hakugyokurou, but after 100+ battles, I've yet to even see her.
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I ran into her fairly quickly. Just keep running around, there doesn't seem to be a way to hurry her up. :(
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Hmm... alrighty, I'll see if doing what Barrakketh did will help.
My only issue is MP and timing my buffs along with Damage issues.
Also, the fact I get unlucky with the boss spamming her Last Word "Bloody Water".
Seriously, she ALWAYS SPAMS IT LIKE crazy.
@Synas, I ran into 3 Metal Yukkuris yesterday in the Desert Area on the 3rd Stratum.
Just also, a little tip, the Area before where you get the Pass from at Former Flames of Hell seems to have a decent spawn spot for the Yukkuri Sisters.
I always run into them sometimes.
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Hmm... alrighty, I'll see if doing what Barrakketh did will help.
My only issue is MP and timing my buffs along with Damage issues.
Also, the fact I get unlucky with the boss spamming her Last Word "Bloody Water".
Seriously, she ALWAYS SPAMS IT LIKE crazy.
Ice Wall blocks Bloody Water's damage completely.
Did you get Oshirasama to join? While you shouldn't be taking any water damage, Jammer would help with your resists there.
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Ice Wall blocks Bloody Water's damage completely.
Did you get Oshirasama to join? While you shouldn't be taking any water damage, Jammer would help with your resists there.
You mean the Strawdoll at Sanzu River?
Yes, I do have Oshirasama in my party, I got her while running around the Sanzu River the first time.
So, I'll try to use Jammer.
Like I said, my only gripe with the battle is MP usage, Bloody Water being spammed, and VORTEX SPAM.
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Ice wall only costs 5 mp. You should have that up every turn.
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Ice wall only costs 5 mp. You should have that up every turn.
It's mostly due to me having to spam Buffs.
But, I'm proud to say....
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I FINALLY DID IT!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOO~ :getdown:
THANK YOU YUKARI FOR FIRE CHASING AND DAMAGING, THANK YOU PATCHOULI FOR SPAMMING ICE WALL AND FIRE BREATH, THANK YOU SANAE FOR SPAMMING HEALS AND BUFFING, THANK YOU EIKI FOR BUSTING OUT FIRE ARROW AND JAMMER, AND THANK YOU MOKOU FOR TANKING AND ATTACKING~! :D
WOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOO WHO'S LAUGHING NOW HUH HUH ME AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
and thank you Barrakketh for THE BIG TIP about using Jammer.
YAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!! -dancing on the First Tower boss's corpse-
I WIN AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!
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Whew, now that I got that out of my system.
I'm proud to say that Jammer did a HELL OF a job on the battlefield.
Now, with that being said, I'm happy as hell that I won and I didn't even need to revive spam, only one time I did and that was Mokou.
Well now, that I'm victorious I'm going to move onto adventuring and of course talking on here, weeeee~!
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Um...Jammer is a complete waste if you just keep Ice Wall up. But whatever! Good job!
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FIRE BREATH
FIRE ARROW
I guess that's why it took so long :) Good job, nonetheless.
By the way, there's a... Valentine's Day event now. What. So go patch your game up.
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I guess that's why it took so long :) Good job, nonetheless.
By the way, there's a... Valentine's Day event now. What. So go patch your game up.
Yeah I had to spam Chasers also, with Yukari because she apparently does more damage than Youmu.
But, interesting... a valentines day event in Devil of Decline, I must see this now when I get home from college. :V
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More areas cleared today. Chasers do sick damage, so on, so forth.
Got a few new characters today. Remilia...seems to be a quick physical glass cannon character. Eh, I'll stick with my Mokou & Youmu as primary physical attackers, thanks.
Another one...Shikieiki, whom I had to fight as she guarded the way to the 3rd stratum. Only took two tries. Once I equipped stuff so Thunderclap had a much lower chance to nuke my party, she was fairly easy.
Think I'll be using her in place of Marisa as a magic nuker. Eiki has better Dex anyways and a good enough Int growth to make her useful.
Final character I got was Yuyuko. I'm tempted to use her as my other magical nuker, replacing Sanae.
I think I might go hunt down a couple shikigami tomorrow. One's in Muenzuka and looks interesting, the other is the one with that ice wall skill in preparation for the 1st tower boss (Probably would help me to find out where that one is though ;P).
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More areas cleared today. Chasers do sick damage, so on, so forth.
Got a few new characters today. Remilia...seems to be a quick physical glass cannon character. Eh, I'll stick with my Mokou & Youmu as primary physical attackers, thanks.
Another one...Shikieiki, whom I had to fight as she guarded the way to the 3rd stratum. Only took two tries. Once I equipped stuff so Thunderclap had a much lower chance to nuke my party, she was fairly easy.
Think I'll be using her in place of Marisa as a magic nuker. Eiki has better Dex anyways and a good enough Int growth to make her useful.
Final character I got was Yuyuko. I'm tempted to use her as my other magical nuker, replacing Sanae.
I think I might go hunt down a couple shikigami tomorrow. One's in Muenzuka and looks interesting, the other is the one with that ice wall skill in preparation for the 1st tower boss (Probably would help me to find out where that one is though ;P).
That's starting to sound a lot like my party! :V Using Yuka to tank, Mokou as primary physical damage dealer (and chaser), Reimu and Yuyuko mostly support with some decent physical and magical damage and Shikieiki as magic nuker.
The shikigami with Ice Wall, Buruburu, can be found in the area directly north of the shrine, by the Three Fairies. Might take a couple tries, but is eminently worth it.
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The latest new patch introduced a new event.
Requirements:
1. You need to set up the twitter account in the config file.
2. You need to have the food loli shikigami equipped.
Once you meet both of these, go to the shrine for an event. This said event now gives you a quest to get chocolate pieces AND cook them for some reason. :getdown:
The catch is all of these pieces have a 1% global drop EVERYWHERE - and the drop is modified by how hard the monster is usually. Cockatrices are the exception, since they have a 2.4% drop rate and yet are easy to kill. There's also now chocolate angels that can spawn randomly in random maps.
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1. You need to set up the twitter account in the config file.
Fuck that.
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Someone mind being a bro and making a pub twitter account?
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The latest new patch introduced a new event.
Requirements:
1. You need to set up the twitter account in the config file.
2. You need to have the food loli shikigami equipped.
Once you meet both of these, go to the shrine for an event. This said event now gives you a quest to get chocolate pieces AND cook them for some reason. :getdown:
The catch is all of these pieces have a 1% global drop EVERYWHERE - and the drop is modified by how hard the monster is usually. Cockatrices are the exception, since they have a 2.4% drop rate and yet are easy to kill. There's also now chocolate angels that can spawn randomly in random maps.
So I must have gotten lucky in that regard. I got a chocolate piece in literally my 1st or 2nd battle today in the Desert 4 section of the 2nd stratum ;P.
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Fuck that.
What, just make a random Twitter account and set it up, it's not hard and it's not even like you need to use it to tell people you just woke up and there was a cat on your head.
This makes me wonder why this event needs Twitter to work, though.
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Twitter is pretty popular in Japan and the company would love to use it for commercial info.
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Is there any sort of demo of this game or anything? Sounds pretty cool, even if I can't read Japanese, so I'd like to play it, but buying it flat out isn't really an option right now.
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I'll be honest - there is no demo on the game. Yes, I checked the game's website, but there's no demo for you to try it out. :/
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I'll be honest - there is no demo on the game. Yes, I checked the game's website, but there's no demo for you to try it out. :/
Ah, a shame. I couldn't read the site to figure it out myself and didn't see anything that looked like it might be one, but figured i'd ask anyway. Ah well, it'll have to wait a while then.
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Is there a list of all LWs + their effects somewhere?
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Fuck that.
Yeah screw Twitter! :V
Oh well, I'll just make an account just to get a kick out of the event.
I wonder what do we get from getting the 10 Chocolates? ???
Some weapons? Armor? Accessory? A new shikigami? :derp:
OOOOH the suspense is killing me~! :colonveeplusalpha:
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Is there a list of all LWs + their effects somewhere?
reimu:full heal on your whole party
yukari:50% immunity to damage/conditions for the turn
byakuren:Damage on all enemies, small chance for instant death
meiling:very strong attack with high accuracy
Marisa: Piercing mystic-type attack
Sanae:Increases all stats of all party members, effect+duration increases with levels
Nitori:Immunity against next attack to hit, for the whole party
Yuuka:Prevents all physical damage to party for the turn
Mokou: Resurrects dead with high HP, grants reraise to living
Remi: Turns enemies into Yukkuri (Except normally they just turn into ghosts instead... effect goes up by level)
Utsuho:Mystic damage to all enemies
Sunny Milk: Guaranteed Stun on all enemies
Yuyuko:Instant Death to all enemies, average success rate
Shikieiki:666 damage to all enemies (or 333 depending on target)
Suika:Doubles damage of all physical attacks by Suika
Kogasa:Deals damage to a single target and causes instant death
All the damaging last words increase in damage formula as you level.
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How do you figure out if the twitter account is set into the config. I got the pin code and put it in the config file. Is that all there is to do?
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SQWARK!!
Tenshi is being a troll... anyone have some tips... she's a paaaaaaain~ :V
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Jammer Earth, don't use electric attacks or she'll overwrite it.
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Uhhh, are you sure on the electric attacks part?
See, there are some electric attacks that specifically inflict a status effect called shocked. I don't know the kanji for that, but it is there in some of these skills and on some weapons. If that status effect procs once on Tenshi, she gets to do 4 different Jammer field effects that stick to each other and don't overwrite each other. That is, if I'm remembering what actually causes the thing correctly. So electric chasers and some electric attacks are actually safe to use.
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Uhhh, are you sure on the electric attacks part?
See, there are some electric attacks that specifically inflict a status effect called shocked. I don't know the kanji for that, but it is there in some of these skills and on some weapons. If that status effect procs once on Tenshi, she gets to do 4 different Jammer field effects that stick to each other and don't overwrite each other. That is, if I'm remembering what actually causes the thing correctly. So electric chasers and some electric attacks are actually safe to use.
Oh, poop... this is gonna be a toughie and I don't want to switch out party members and then run back to the boss portal. :derp:
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Okay, so apparently I have the undenier (and no idea where I found it). Where are the barriers on the first two stratums? And what's past them (or in their chests)?
Also, I've made it down to the third stratum now, but before I explore it, I'm going to look around the first two towers. but before I do that, I want to make sure I haven't missed any party members/shikigami. I have, aside from starting shikis (remember, I'm doing Byakuren's scenario), Rin, Parsee, Letty, all three Prismrivers, Luna, Star, Momiji, Aya, Hatate, the snake-thing, Yamame, Murasa, Mystia, Ran, Hina, and Reisen. Is there anyone missing? ANd for party members, I've gotten Yuuka and SHiki, obviously, plus Marisa, Patchouli, Mokou, Utsuho, and Nitori. AM I missing anyone there? And if I am missing anyone, where are they?
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HALP HALP!
Tenshi keeps insta death spamming on me, what do??? :derp:
And still no dice... on Tenshi not whipping out Jammer on me.
I'll experiment and see which Wind attacks doesn't trigger jammer.
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I never experienced the 4 Jammers. I only had her counter every single electric attack with a Thunder Jammer. Make of that what you will!
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Oh. :V
In that case, like what Serela said earlier, you just get the shikigami he linked out and use the other starting field effect - it has the special effect of being immune to overwriting if you're gonna spam electrical attacks to kill her quickly. Also, you probably want to get some equipments to override Tenshi's instant death hard. EDIT: Oh right, she does use petrification as well, I forgot that part! So maybe a mix of RES buffs and some equipment to block that would be helpful as well.
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You mean the middle one that the Shikigami has or D-net?
Edit: Oh yeah the middle one is the immuned one. I thank you for that and now to find me the equips to immune myself to insta death.
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Just set Osendaku up, then Alicorn, then spam lightning attacks and chase them, and Tenshi will be gone in no time.
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Just set Osendaku up, then Alicorn, then spam lightning attacks and chase them, and Tenshi will be gone in no time.
Hmm... Field... yes... must use the Field...
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Okay, so apparently I have the undenier (and no idea where I found it). Where are the barriers on the first two stratums? And what's past them (or in their chests)?
Also, I've made it down to the third stratum now, but before I explore it, I'm going to look around the first two towers. but before I do that, I want to make sure I haven't missed any party members/shikigami. I have, aside from starting shikis (remember, I'm doing Byakuren's scenario), Rin, Parsee, Letty, all three Prismrivers, Luna, Star, Momiji, Aya, Hatate, the snake-thing, Yamame, Murasa, Mystia, Ran, Hina, and Reisen. Is there anyone missing? ANd for party members, I've gotten Yuuka and SHiki, obviously, plus Marisa, Patchouli, Mokou, Utsuho, and Nitori. AM I missing anyone there? And if I am missing anyone, where are they?
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You're missing everyone in the places you haven't explored yet in terms of Touhou Shikigami, you'll know them when you see them.
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I was going through a japanese blog with google translate, and some interesting things came to my attention; notably, multi-target and single-target buffs seem like they should be able to stack, like Heat Weapon and Breath Weapon. Heat Weapon increases attack power, while Breath Weapon directly increases damage dealt. (And buffs/debuffs are all notably affected in power by dex... depending on the move, at least, it varies)
Except for the Magic Attack ones, for some reason
Also saw that breakfast loli's poison increases in power according to her level (Shikigami level).
Still not 100% sure if other shikigami moves increase in power according to their shikigami level or the character's level, as google translate just spits it out with a special note of "Physical dependency level" and such.
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Still not 100% sure if other shikigami moves increase in power according to their shikigami level or the character's level, as google translate just spits it out with a special note of "Physical dependency level" and such.
It will be indicated easily in the Japanese wiki; it's too bad I don't have time right now or I'd comb through it all just for you guys, I hate when people rely on machine translation when the resources are readily available since machine translations are HORRIBLY inaccurate with regards to the more intricate effects.
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Blah, I know. In the japanese wiki it says it "Power increases at the level of the caster", but that's not too specific about WHICH caster (At least through a machine translation)
The japanese for the line of relevant text in the japanese wiki is 術者のレベルで威力が上昇する。, while the blog's is レベル依存物理 and レベル依存魔法.
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It will be indicated easily in the Japanese wiki; it's too bad I don't have time right now or I'd comb through it all just for you guys, I hate when people rely on machine translation when the resources are readily available since machine translations are HORRIBLY inaccurate with regards to the more intricate effects.
and give you things like "Breath Weapon" instead of Bless
lookin' at you Serela ::)
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/me breathes on theshim's armor and wonders why it isn't stronger
It's easy to be lazy ;_; Not like people aren't referring to other skills by what google translate spits out anyway.
At least I know that Lyrica's res buff "Fatsuiori Meditiation" is probably Fazioli Meditation.
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/me breathes on theshim's armor and wonders why it isn't stronger
It's easy to be lazy ;_; Not like people aren't referring to other skills by what google translate spits out anyway.
At least I know that Lyrica's res buff "Fatsuiori Meditiation" is probably Fazioli Meditation.
Or doesn't say the Touhou character's names correctly.
Oh yeah FINALLY GOT MY LONG SHOT~
Now, that I just remember what else to post just now, I got Medicine, Iku, and Koishi.
Um, I know you get Sakuya via, Long Shot also, can anyone tell me what where is she, and how to get there.
Also, are there any other Long Shot locations I'm missing?
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You do not need the longshot to get Sakuya, IIRC. She's in the Garden of the Sun, over to the right.
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Hooray for completely unavoidable party wipes! Final dungeon's Flayer paralyzed everyone with a mind blast. :colonveeplusalpha:
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I HATE MIND BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAST!!!!!!
(And ironically I got a Krackenmage Shikigami)
I also, would like to say, that I found Nue (shikigami), Suika, Yuugi (shikigami), and Kisume (shikigami).
Sad part though... The game crashes on me when I try to select Suika... in the party orb at the shrine. What Hell... :colonveeplusalpha:
Oh well, no love lost but, now I need to find out where Sakuya is on the right side of Garden of the Sun.
Then train up my people to survive Tenshi.
Dumb question: Is Alicorn a shikigami or a skill?
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Dumb question: Is Alicorn a shikigami or a skill?
I think it's both.
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I think it's both.
Alicorn is a skill, I just looked it up on the JP Wiki.
Arikon - The whole "disable instant effect change once the ability" to give.
Capacity change: Disabled changing moment
I don't get it but, I know that the Unicorn in the Forest of Magic has the skill. I have an Unicorn shikigami so, I'll see if it works.
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Hooray for completely unavoidable party wipes! Final dungeon's Flayer paralyzed everyone with a mind blast. :colonveeplusalpha:
I had an angel kill four of my party members with instant death before I could act. Also barely avoided a party wipe where the enemies were using chasers + AoE, again before I got a turn to do anything. This wasn't even in the castle, but the wind bosses dungeon.
And now that I had a chance to explore some of the castle, enemy AoEs are starting to do stupid amounts of damage relative to my max HP. I also learned that Cosmic Liner can kill Yuka in one hit :V I'm tempted to grind some extra levels on Melon-chan for Thousand Needles (Atlas translates it as Porcupine Fish).
IIRC, on the third stratum I ran into another staircase that goes down like where you fought Yuka/Eiki. Is there anything there now, and if so where is the entrance at? I forgot :derp:
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IIRC, on the third stratum I ran into another staircase that goes down like where you fought Yuka/Eiki. Is there anything there now, and if so where is the entrance at? I forgot :derp:
That's where you fight Suika and Yuugi to recruit them.
Edit: I always seem to die on Tenshi when her HP is at the 1,300 range. :derp:
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You're missing everyone in the places you haven't explored yet in terms of Touhou Shikigami, you'll know them when you see them.
I've been to every area in the first two stratums, except for any that require the undenier. There are no ???? selections on the world map, so I've hit every teleportation point, but there may still be someone I missed. Are there any party members/shikigami on the first two stratums that I don't have (excluding anything you need the longshot for), and if so, where are they?
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The only areas that require the undenier are that Eientei part you can get to from the Garden of the Sun, the Sea of Blazing Flames or whatever it's called, and Misty Lake.
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I've been to every area in the first two stratums, except for any that require the undenier. There are no ???? selections on the world map, so I've hit every teleportation point, but there may still be someone I missed. Are there any party members/shikigami on the first two stratums that I don't have (excluding anything you need the longshot for), and if so, where are they?
Consult the JP wiki. First stratum (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku/pages/244.html&usg=ALkJrhhe4Rzmyp3Xwvw0-xpEoKKoUiv_Pw), second stratum (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku/pages/245.html&usg=ALkJrhil1HcNZNekLfKEQq8pu8vqbBUEhw).
First stratum shikigami (event/random encounters):
- Starter shikigami from the chest
- Mystia
- Yamame
- Aya
- Orin
- Hina
- Lunasa, Merlin, Lyrica
- Star Sapphire, Luna Child.
- Momiji
- Breakfast loli
Second stratum:
- Parsee
- Ran
- Murasa
- Kisume
- Daiyousei
- Reisen
- Hatate
You seem to be missing Kisume (random encounter in the Netherworld) and Daiyousei (random encounter in Makai 4).
As for characters, I didn't catch Youmu in your list. She requires an item you see on the ground in "Heaven", and is found in the Netherworld.
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Except he didn't kill any tower main boss yet so he can't get Kisume and Daiyousei since they require a certain shikigami that lets you recruit them.
So really he's just missing Youmu at the moment.
EDIT: I was asking for how much this skill scaled: http://www.pooshlmer.com/wakaba/src/1327887263943.png
To put it simply: this field effect is a all stats up buff that stacks on other buffs. The name is Emerald Pentagram
Name,Effect: 五芒星 STR～POTがX増加
Length: 6+(DEX/64)
Power: 10+(LV/3)+(LV/4)
And yes, that is how it scales - BOTH off character's level AND the level of the shikigami that has it equipped. And yes, it lasts 10 turns at 256 dex for what amounts to almost 51 if we're rounding up at level 70 in both. Most of the other field effects just scale off DEX, though. Be forewarned, the table this came from is messed up so it might be actually wrong!
Anyways, looks like if the LV part is mentioned twice, it scales off both the character AND the shikigami with the skill. If it's only mentioned once, it either scales off the character's level or the shikigami's level.
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Consult the JP wiki. First stratum (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku/pages/244.html&usg=ALkJrhhe4Rzmyp3Xwvw0-xpEoKKoUiv_Pw), second stratum (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku/pages/245.html&usg=ALkJrhil1HcNZNekLfKEQq8pu8vqbBUEhw).
First stratum shikigami (event/random encounters):
Breakfast loli
WHo's this?
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WHo's this?
Oh right, a new shikigami they added in a chest in a later patch. Go back to the stairs where you fought Yuuka, and search for the chest there.
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IIRC Suika and Yuugi can be found there. Can't quite remember where it is though. :(
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IIRC Suika and Yuugi can be found there. Can't quite remember where it is though. :(
Third Stratum - Desert 4 it's in a cave.
Edit: Also... TENSHI WHY YOU BE TROLLING... YOU BE A SPAMMING LIKE A BOSS... :colonveeplusalpha:
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Huh. Even though I had cleared the third tower, I missed Shou and Nazrin. I went back to check, and when I went to the top-right as I entered the tower and the game loaded the screen slower than usual (typical for when a cutscene pops up), but nothing happened. Left the room from the other doorway, re-entered, and the loading delay happened again and then I got the cutscene.
It's not nice when the game throws a boss fight at you without giving you a warning (no red marker for me), but I beat it easily (Nazrin died on the first turn from Fire Chaser abuse).
Poor Kogasa. That's all I can really say about that fight.
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Funny story about that - the game USED to have red marks for pretty much all the boss fights. I'm not entirely sure why they removed some of that other than that they felt it was too obvious and that you could tell when a boss was coming up.
Hey, at least Kogasa DOESN'T think she's a certain judge we all know and love as Eiki anymore (it was a glitch in the naming when you recruited her and she had Eiki's name. :getdown:).
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Funny story about that - the game USED to have red marks for pretty much all the boss fights. I'm not entirely sure why they removed some of that other than that they felt it was too obvious and that you could tell when a boss was coming up.
I'm more annoyed that it's a completely unmarked event that you can only trigger by entering a room from a certain doorway. If the loading delay hadn't cued me in on something being up (I sure as hell didn't notice it the first time when I was going through the tower) I'd have wasted a lot of time scouring the whole damned place for something that was right there by the entrance.
For most character events (boss or otherwise) there's either an empty room that's really obvious, or a suspicious trigger (there's a bowl of cucumbers right in the open, that clearly isn't a trap of some sort). Generic room that looks like a lot of other generic rooms in that tower isn't something that one is apt to remember :V
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Huh. Even though I had cleared the third tower, I missed Shou and Nazrin. I went back to check, and when I went to the top-right as I entered the tower and the game loaded the screen slower than usual (typical for when a cutscene pops up), but nothing happened. Left the room from the other doorway, re-entered, and the loading delay happened again and then I got the cutscene.
It's not nice when the game throws a boss fight at you without giving you a warning (no red marker for me), but I beat it easily (Nazrin died on the first turn from Fire Chaser abuse).
Poor Kogasa. That's all I can really say about that fight.
That room is weird, it doesn't give you that event if you go into it from the left but it does if you do it from the top. I'm pretty sure the red portal is still there, though - or at least it was, back in... 1.10 or 1.09, I don't remember exactly. Kogasa's event behaves the exact same way.
In case anyone still haven't gotten those girls yet, just go into the third level's tower, hop into the balcony to the right, go through that room and then come back into it. You can get there from the bottom door in the first room too, you'll just need to walk a bit more and use some MP fighting things.
Also, Kogasa still has the wrong shoes when she's taking damage, so even without being a judge she can still make you laugh.
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More grinding up of Yuyuko & Eiki in the 2nd stratum today. Would like them at lv20+ before I continue on.
On the plus side I got the +10% EXP accessory from a Metal Yukkuri. No complaints about that.
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More grinding up of Yuyuko & Eiki in the 2nd stratum today. Would like them at lv20+ before I continue on.
On the plus side I got the +10% EXP accessory from a Metal Yukkuri. No complaints about that.
GAWD DAM IT!!!!
I had gotten that accessory on Genius of Sapphieros at Eientei when I ran into 3 Yukkuri Towers, it was fun.
Grats to you Anima on your accessory.
Now, to find a way to curb stomp Tenshi.
Although, I did forge a few new weapons and armors which made one of my fights with Tenshi a bit more easier, she still in the end gave me the big Troll treatment.
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I have a Yukkuri Crown.
:smug:
Got one of my third or fourth King. Still no luck getting a King to join me, and I haven't really been trying but still at zero with Sisters and Hagure as well. Hell, most of the enemies in the final area have craptacular join chances, it would seem; I've killed at least a couple dozen G-3s and whatever that blue robot thing are and no dice with either. Did get Machine Dragon, at least.
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So... Tenshi would you like those Wind Chasers now or Later~
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/ZoraSmile/Paybackisamother.jpg)
^ Excuse the weird cutting out of the screen shot I took of my victory well my soon to be finishing blow.
:3 Summary of Tenshi battle:
My MVP was Sanae who risked her life spamming Heals, Alice's Elemental Wall to soften up Tenshi's Earth assaults, Revived, and dispelled Tenshi's buffs.
While Patchouli cranked up Osendeku while backing up Yukari who, was hitting Tenshi with Electric Chasers. She did also get a lucky hit with Lunasa's Curse skill which just saved me after Mokou used her Last Word.
Yukari was using Electric Chasers and would sometimes use Critical Thrust and Asuka opposition encase Sanae had to heal to dispel Tenshi's buffs.
Eiki was doing the buffing and healing, and had Koakuma follow up with Dark Illusion which made Tenshi look like joke.
Mokou usually was using her DEX debuffing Hammer that I got from the 3rd Tower while lowering Tenshi's POT if she could pull it off, she also would sometimes revive along with Sanae. She also, used Provoke to tank up Tenshi's physical attacks thanks to a few buffs from the others.
So, after 20 tries of trying to go at Tenshi, I must say... ARE YOU HAPPY NOW, YOU DAM MASOCHIST! :V
And also... PAYBACK IS A MOTHER!
Edit: I ended up getting the best consolation prize ever after trying now to look for Star Platinum
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/ZoraSmile/Bestthingever.jpg)
I would like to take the time to cry tears of joy and thank the RNG for the consolation prize of a Metal Yukkuri after what Tenshi did to me.
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Hell, most of the enemies in the final area have craptacular join chances, it would seem; I've killed at least a couple dozen G-3s and whatever that blue robot thing are and no dice with either. Did get Machine Dragon, at least.
The chance to recruit any of them is Rank D, which seems to translate to 1%, so yeah, you're going to need a bit of luck.
Tenshi is dead!
Good job! Although after my most recent fight against her, it seemed that being more offensive than defensive really paid off - she just has so many ways to flatten you it's not funny. And you don't even have Alice with that earth shield to protect you this time! And even if you did, she has that god damned Ectoplasm Net to instantly kill you, which seems to hit everyone regardless of your formation! Aaargh!
This is where some strategy proves to be amazing, though - give everyone that can deal damage an earth resistance accessory or shikigami, set Alicorn (one of the starting skills that Unicorn has, sorry if that wasn't clear enough... but well, just googling that name teaches you that "alicorn" is the name of the horn of a unicorn) up, buff and set Osendaku up too, then on the following turn use your Thunder Chaser and make everyone use a thunder attack. If you need to heal, do it on the chaser cooldown turn, then just shock her again and she will be gone with no trouble at all. It's pretty much a battle of attrition: if you don't beat her fast enough she will beat you, and this is what seemed to have been your biggest problem.
Well, can't wait to see how you're going to deal with the Eientei pair! :V!
Tip: swords are EXTREMELY useful. Lunasa might help you a lot, too.
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Tip: The Muramasa is EXTREMELY useful. Lunasa will help you a lot, too.
I've fixed that for you, sir! :3
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Beat up Tenshi earlier tonight. The first attempt was a trial to see what she did, the second I restarted because she killed Byakuren on the first turn, and I succeeded on the third. There were a couple of turns where I had to wait for Osendaku to finish cooling down so I could refresh it and finish her off, which was the most troublesome part of the fight.
Leveled up Caviar some (fire HDD), put it on Yuka. Two physical attackers with a chaser and and some cheap full-screen spam is :getdown:
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I've fixed that for you, sir! :3
Isn't its slayer effect pretty poor, though? I said that about swords because of that one skill that gets a pretty nice slayer effect on humanoids.
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Isn't its slayer effect pretty poor, though? I said that about swords because of that one skill that gets a pretty nice slayer effect on humanoids.
That weapon combined with Lunasa's passive combined with 次元斬 made me deal 3000+ damage to Kaguya in one hit. :getdown:
Keep in mind that it has a relatively high critical rate chance, which offsets the fact it has slightly lower slayer effect than other swords. It's not like there are any other swords (except Mage Masher? In fact I don't even remember which family of mobs Kaguya and Eirin come from, though I think it's spellcaster) that have the same Slayer effect as it...
EDIT:
In case anyone cares about the Chocolates in this Valentine's event:
G-3 (G-3) 36/1000 drop rate
Greater Demon (グレートデーモン) 36/1000 drop rate
Dominion (ドミニオン) 36/1000 drop rate
Asrael (アズラエル) 36/1000 drop rate
Decarabia (デカラビア) 32/1000 drop rate
Officer Demon (オフィサー・デーモン) 32/1000 drop rate
Mushu-Fushu (ムシュフシュ) 32/1000 drop rate
Earth Dragon (アースドラゴン) 32/1000 drop rate
Luminescence (ルミネッセンス) 32/1000 drop rate
Dynamis Princess (デュミナスプリンセス) 32/1000 drop rate
Ace Power (エースパワー) 32/1000 drop rate
Don't bother looking for any other monsters, they drop at less than 30/1000 rate.
The chance to recruit any of them is Rank D, which seems to translate to 1%, so yeah, you're going to need a bit of luck.
1.56%, to be precise.
EDIT 2:
DEX is a very important stat, as it dictates variable values in a metric tonne of skills - from the damage output to how long the duration of statuses last to even the effect of the status loss/gain itself. Do not underestimate the importance of this stat. To underline some of why DEX is so freaking important, I have here some values:
Kisume's Well Destructor (400 base hit rate)
Lowers an area of enemy's physical damage and raises the amount of damage they receive by (X/1000)% for 5 turns, where X = 20+(user.DEX/24)
Example:
Byakuren Lv70 w/ Kisume Lv70using WD
X = 20 + (186/24) = 20 + 7_trunc = 27
27/1000 = 0.027 = 2.7%
Murasa/Garbangol's D-Net
Creates a constant damage-dealing field for 6 turns, the damage is equal to 10*(user.DEX/12)
Byakuren Lv70 w/ Murasa Lv70 using D-Net
d = 10 * (196/12) = 10 * 16 = 160/turn
Keine's Regeneration
Creates a healing field for 6 turns, the healing is equal to 5*[ (user.DEX - 64)/16 + 4]
Byakuren Lv70 w/ Keine Lv70 using Regeneration
h = 5 * [ (184 - 64)/16 + 4 ] = 5 * 11_trunc = 55/turn
Yes, 55 per turn is a lot where the game-best base HP is Suika with 570 at Lv70. Even with Shikigami, 330 hp after 6 turns is GREAT.
Jammer duration is equal to 6 + (user.DEX/64) turns
Byakuren Lv70 using a Jammer
dur = 6 + (170/64) = 6 + 2.6_trunc = 6 + 2 = 8 turns
You're free to peruse some of the stuff yourself at this blog (http://blog.livedoor.jp/maroku/) that was posted by I think rizul earlier.
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More shikigami collecting today. Added the Mind Flayer, Fairy Maid, and Lesser Demon from the 2nd tower to my collection.
All of them have some rather nice skills to play with. Mind Flayer has Mind Blast and a bunch of other Mystic elemental moves, Lesser Demon has Dark elemental moves to utilize with my shikigami that has Dark Chaser, and Fairy Maid can do land manipulation and has attacks for Fire/Ice/Earth/Thunder.
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Then, I might have to switch Mokou with Youmu since she mainly uses swords and I have one of the high-tier attack swords.
I also, did get a pair of gloves from Star Platinum yesterday, although he NEVER joined, which sucked.
On top of that those Metal Marisa Yukkuris are so trolling, not even my weapons can pierce them the little douche bags.,.
And currently right now, I'm going to level up my people along, with Koishi and Yuugi.
Fun Fact: Yuugi - Knock out in three steps is beastly if given to a high attacker.
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@Anima Zero
Kaguya - Mage mob
Eirin - Warrior mob
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I might have to start training Youmu also to get her to do some beast damage.
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@Curvy
Wahahahahahaha, I actually almost killed Eirin.
But, gawd I might need to get Koishi up to boot so she can de-buff them, even though Murasa can hold her own with the Colosseum Field to stop them from reviving.
Yuugi, I might need her to knock Kaguya out.
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That's why I recommend to try and hunt Saladin for their Masamune (1.0% drop) since it has a Slayer effect on both Magicians and Fighters (including Psychics) but at the same time, the Slayer effect is only 50. That's why you need to have Lunasa's passive as well and then use attacks like Dimension Slash, especially Dimension Slash, since I've had it do well over 3000 damage. But at the very least, you should be doing 1000+ per hit with it with that particular set up, provided you have competent physical attackers.
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That's why I recommend to try and hunt Saladin for their Masamune (1.0% drop) since it has a Slayer effect on both Magicians and Fighters (including Psychics) but at the same time, the Slayer effect is only 50. That's why you need to have Lunasa's passive as well and then use attacks like Dimension Slash, especially Dimension Slash, since I've had it do well over 3000 damage. But at the very least, you should be doing 1000+ per hit with it with that particular set up, provided you have competent physical attackers.
What about using a stronger sword (say, Durandal) with 覇王の一閃 (it has a one turn cooldown, however). I don't know how the weaker attack will play with a stronger slayer effect, but that could be used in addition to the Masamune.
Man, I'm lacking on decent weapon skills for the people I gave swords to. Mainly Yuka, since the other characters were mainly using them just to learn Chain Slash for Yukkuri hunting (no luck learning that, either). I guess it might be time to level up Youmu or something :wat:
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Where, exactly, is Youmu's event item? And where's Youmu herself? I can't find either. I thought I might have the item already, since I haven't found it (unless you need the longshot to get it, since I don't have that yet), but I can't find Youmu either. So where is she?
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I think the item was in Heaven on second stratum, and she should be in Muenzuka. That is if I didn't mix the places up or get them wrong.
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Muenzuka, I believe, is where the hookshot is found. Is that the place you're thinking of?
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Oh right, I mixed up places again. I should've been thinking of the Netherworld (which should've been in the bottom left, iirc, unless Youmu doesn't appear there.). I'll check to make sure it's actually correct, though.
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It's Hakugyokuro; I just found her.
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Turns out the valentine's event requires Twitter... mostly because they're actually doing a draw. The prize is physical, so...
Yeah, if you don't reside in Japan, you can't actually enter the event for the draw. :V
What a disappointing event for those not living in Japan.
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What a disappointing event for those not living in Japan.
It was sold at Comiket, I don't really EXPECT them to know that there are numerous people outside of Japan even playing this game, enough to warrant the inclusion of global shipping or some such. It's not really fair to harp on them for it.
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Unfortunately, now I wish I hadn't said that part in my last post.
What I meant was that people like me were hoping that the event was something other than a draw with physical prizes and a requirement to be able to send twitter messages in Japanese. Especially since the chocolate hunt sounded like a fun activity. I guess I have unrealistic expectations this time, though.
Anyways, I really should get back to playing the game, even though I have been distracted so much by other stuff such as Fortune Summoners and Rune Factory 3 and other comiket 81 games, etc. Even though I hate the fact that Twitter messages are the closest thing to a bestiary entry that the game has.
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Especially since the chocolate hunt sounded like a fun activity. I guess I have unrealistic expectations this time, though.
Hunting rare 3.2~3.6% drops from certain monsters (and those are high rates, some monsters have it at a 0.1% drop rate) or going out of your way to find rare Angel monsters for some cho-co-laet doesn't really sound like my definition of fun, even if chocolate is awesome. :derp:
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Fortune Summoners
How is this?
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Well, according to the JP wiki, I've got every shikigami possible up to this point minus the Metal Yukkuri and Yukkuri Tower ones.
Think I'll go off into the 3rd stratum at last tomorrow.
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Got the Masamune in 10 tries from the Saladins it's not that bad, right now I'm going to try to get Youmu to learn Dimension Slash so, I can steam roll Eirin and Kaguya.
Edit: Does, anyone know a weapon that can kill the Metal Marisa yukkuris none of mine seem to work... :ohdear:
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Same deal as every Yukkuri - hit 'em fast, hit 'em hard. Yuugi's Knockout in Three Steps is useful for getting three hits on your strongest character, especially if you buff them up first (Dragon Power is helpful). Kanako's Meteoric Onbashira does pretty heavy damage as well if you're up against a group (like the group of three Sisters and one Hagure that appear in the third tower redux).
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Not only that, you should have Murasa and one other shikigami at this point that can use D-net although I would have some field effects to knock off yukkuris' field effect counters. :V
Of course, this is only recommended for holding in a single mob since the game still has the Satori learning limit of one monster per group just like GoS.
There's no weapons that can do the job, but in general the only way to do 2 damage to the yukkuris reliably is to use skills that cost at least a certain amount and above.
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Tower 2 boss down! And she was pretty easy, too. Now I have Satori. I know you don't need her set to anyone to recruit monsters, but does she get passives that increase the chance? Also, where are Daiyousei, Kisume, Lily White, Shizuha, and Koakuma found?
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She doesn't get any passives that would increase the chances, although the majority of the monster shikigamis are easy to get in a few tries, which is a good thing.
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Shizuha is at the Sanzu River (Archeron to be technical), Koukuma is in Desert area at the 3rd Stratum Area 1 is your best bet to catching her, Lily White is at the 2nd Area of the Final Dungeon after you beat Tenshi (Which you will need a lot of luck on since Tenshi is a BITCH to kill), Kisume is at Hakugyokurou best spot to encounter her is close to the entrance to the castle, and Daiyousei is at Makai 4 which is on the Second Stratum area 4 of it is your best bet to get her.
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Which one is area 4 of Makai 4?
Edit: Wait, Makai 4 only has three areas.
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It's the area where you first arrive at from the Garden of the Sun or the Makai 4 of Second Stratum if I'm correct... it's should be Area 3, if not try the Makai from the Garden of the Sun route.
Question: Does the control Kaguya, trick from GoS work on DoD?
If so, then may I please have the name of the shikigami or shikigamis that has the Control skill?
If, not then... uuuuuuugh time for me to get my party up to par.
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Finally got started on exploring the 3rd stratum. Considering the new battle theme is all kinds of awesome, it was fun getting into random battles around the area.
Added a bunch of new shikigami to my list. Monster ones to join me included the Dragon Maid (Yay!), Unicorn (Doesn't seem too bad), Dryad (Leafi Shield? Yes please), and a Gorgon (Minus? That sounds good I guess).
Touhou shikigami to join my cause included Alice and...PC-98 Marisa? Ok ;P.
Alice seems to be pretty much a carbon copy of how she functioned in GoS.
PC-98 Marisa had to be taken down as I ran into her in a random battle while exploring the Forest of Magic.
First turn...not too bad.
Second turn...I threw up a Leaf Shield on Mokou since I had her use Provoke or whatever it's called to make the enemy have a greater chance of attacking her.
PC-98 Marisa? Buffs her magic attack, then Energy Riots my team. Mokou is fine, now how ab...oh god that just did 200-250 to everyone else D:. Yuyu, Youmu, & Eiki all got OHKO'd Reimu survived somehow.
Considering I had no healing options available, I just decided to go all out. PC-98 Marisa decided to do OH GOD COSMIC LINER WHYYYY...on my Mokou who still had 1 hit on her Leaf Shield remaining so she lived. The other attack for the enemy this turn was thankfully not Energy Riot.
Oh yeah both Mokou & Reimu got LWs charged up so I fired them both off. Thanks to everyone being back up and kicking, the enemy fell and I got it as a new shikigami.
...Not before the enemy got two more chances to possibly screw me over. Unfortunately it only did single target attacks on Mokou & Reimu, both who had Reraise active so they weren't going anywhere soon.
Guess I'll be exploring some kind of misty area next, whee.
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It's the area where you first arrive at from the Garden of the Sun or the Makai 4 of Second Stratum if I'm correct... it's should be Area 3, if not try the Makai from the Garden of the Sun route.
I'm... not entirely certain what you just said.
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I want to say that the refight with the wind girl is pretty hard, but I'm pretty sure I was just unlucky against her spams. Also, it's funny how her spell card (or most likely every spell card) ignores the fact that Shield Wall is supposed to have priority.
Anyway, I guess I was caught off-guard by how she's not made of paper anymore, and even with every physical attack being super effective nothing was dealing absurd amounts of damage. She wasn't really tricky, I guess, she was just dealing as much damage and being as annoying as a boss should be.
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I'm... not entirely certain what you just said.
I'm saying... Makai 5 on the 3rd Stratum should have Daiyousei, it's the area where you first drop off at, when you use the Hook Shot.
Hrm... also, I'm still waiting for the answer to whether Kaguya can be controlled or not like status effect wise?
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That's not the only place she appears; I do seem to remember running into her before (I think in one of the second stratum Makai areas). It she just easier to run into there?
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That's not the only place she appears; I do seem to remember running into her before (I think in one of the second stratum Makai areas). It she just easier to run into there?
That place or the other Makai near the Sunflower field.
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I ran into Daiyousei in Makai 4, just before the stairs to the third stratum.
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I ran into Daiyousei in Makai 4, just before the stairs to the third stratum.
That's the place I was talking about that's near the Garden of the Sun.
She kept popping up quite a few times.
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Lots more done today. Explored another Makai section in the 3rd stratum, the Misty Lake, some kind of lovely area, and the Sanzu River.
Ended up adding multiple new shikigami to my arsenal. Cirno was the first to be collected, then I bumped into Koakuma at the new Makai area and added her, but not before I had to beat her in battle.
How I didn't game over to Koakuma when I wasn't prepared at all for her, I don't know. Only Yuyuko survived that battle thanks to spamming her one spear move which had a high priority for going off first.
Moving onwards into more areas, found a Medicine, then found a cave with a boss. Once again I wasn't exactly setup to handle the fight more smoothly, but I still won on my first try. Thank god my Yuyuko's Jinzo knew Dispel. Boss loved to buff itself up real good. Got a Suwako out of that one (Seems to have some pretty decent stats right now).
Sanzu River saw me getting four shikigami: A Ninja, Osendaku or whatever its name is, Shizuha (Had to beat her in battle, not quite as determined to kick my ass like Koakuma), and Nue. That last one is pretty good with an attack for Fire/Ice/Earth/Lightning to abuse Youmu's chasers even more.
Levels are getting pretty good now for my main team, around 28-30.
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Moving onwards into more areas, found a Medicine, then found a cave with a boss. Once again I wasn't exactly setup to handle the fight more smoothly, but I still won on my first try. Thank god my Yuyuko's Jinzo knew Dispel. Boss loved to buff itself up real good. Got a Suwako out of that one (Seems to have some pretty decent stats right now).
Huh, that boss actually gave me a lot of trouble, even with Dispel. Good job.
Osendaku
Oshirasama. Osendaku is her first field effect, which is useful for a few fights (coughtenshicough) as it can't be overwritten.
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That guy basically disintegrated on my second playthrough where I abused chasers. :V
Didn't even have to debuff him.
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These terms, man. Chasers are what, the regular (weak) elemental attacks?
Also, kinda hard to find out which melee ability (the ones you learn by using your sword/spear/blunt object) is effective against which type of enemy. Is there a list for this somewhere?
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It's mostly experience, or remembering things from GoS, since this game has no bestiary. For example, things that have huge eyes and birds are weak to stab, giants and plants are weak to slash, bugs are weak to blunt, and so on.
Chasers do "normal+" damage, which somehow end up being pretty strong in the end. And then there's Rune Chaser that deals "large-" damage.
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These terms, man. Chasers are what, the regular (weak) elemental attacks?
Chasers are skills that count as sort of a one-turn buff, and makes that person "Chase" any attacks of the specific element with a followup.
For example, if Yuka uses Daiyousei's Ice Chaser, then for that turn, every time one of your characters uses an Ice attack, right afterwords Yuka will use a physical ice attack of her own against everything that was hit.
Well... not every time. It only activates twice per turn, although monster shikigami Peri has a passive to boost this amount. And for some reason the chasers do really high damage in this game.
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I meant the skills that have slayer effects. Again, them terms. But at least I think I got this one right. :V
Also... wow.
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Finally mapped out everything in the 3rd stratum. Those upgraded butterflies were rather lulzy.
Poison Mist hitting like 3 people is lovely, but that poison doing 240 damage at the end of every turn...did NOT expect that.
Added a Kanako & Flandre to my shikigami team.
Finally, downed a couple bosses. First one was the guardian I had to carpet bomb to gain access to the 3rd tower. Compared to the 2nd boss, this one was fairly easy. Blind sucks, but that's about all that I found really dangerous.
Other boss I downed was much more of a fight, the first tower boss. That one took a few tries and some shuffling of a few shikigamis, but I won after a pretty tough struggle.
Basic strategy was to shift the land towards fire in the first turn with one of Reimu's shikigamis, then block the boss's charged move with the shikigami that has the Ice Wall skill on the next turn. Yuyuko & Eiki did a bunch of buffing & healing while having fire spells available to power Mokou & Youmu's fire chasers, which were my main source of damage. I even had Reimu get in on the fire spell casting spree because when the land is heavily shifted towards fire, boss's Ice attacks aren't too bad. Koakuma's Dark Illusion also helped out many times.
Nobody got KO'd during the fight which was surprising. Yuyuko got a bit close near the end though.
Now I just have to go do the 3rd tower and things will happen, whee.
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If you have a consistent way of finding yukkuris and a way to deal at least 1 damage to them, I offer a way to speed up your grinding. Obviously Cheat Engine is required.
Enemy HP is stored in a fixed location. It's all based on what slot on the field the enemy occupies. Find yourself a lone enemy, preferably one that you won't kill in a single attack. Have CE find its HP. You'll need to hit them a few times and track the HP changes. Once you've got that lone enemy's HP address, it stays the same for every fight while your game is still open. The address for a lone enemy is the first enemy slot. Adding 4 to the address and thereafter will get you the HP address of the subsequent enemies on the screen.
With that, whenever you encounter your farmable enemy, set their HP to 1 and do your business.
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Alternatively, encounter a yukkuri along with other enemies.
Revive it and deal 1 hp damage, rinse repeat, ???, profit.
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My method starts the fight with it at 1 HP. Can be applied to other enemies too.
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Mhmm! The one I suggested still works for people who don't wish to cheat, however, and also allows you to possibly get even over 200k exp in a single battle, which is pretty great if your goal is just getting EXP. (Two result pictures stolen from poosh: http://puu.sh/fI3W http://puu.sh/fI3I )
Or you could do both of them at once. They aren't exclusive of each other! :3
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I might need a new Yukkuri hotspot to grind my Yukari route file to prepare for Kaguya and Eirin.
Since, I'm right now doing Byakuren's route on another file although, I did get lucky to find some decent items and got 10 chocolates more faster than my other file.
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Cleared the 3rd tower today, collecting some new shikigami in the process.
First up, fighting Shou & Nazrin. Joke fight basically because I almost wiped Shou in a single turn. Would have done that if one of my attacks didn't miss. Nazrin went down on the next turn.
Skill wise, they're both good. Shou's got Saint Chaser, Nazrin has some nice buffs.
Monster shikigami wise, got Buckbaird (That eye monster that loves to reflect physical attacks...and has a spell that can induce Berserk to everyone) and a Dragonfly from the tower.
Also got some kind of weapon from battle...probably from that Saladin or whatever it's called. It does have some nice slayer effects on it though.
Tower boss? Joke fight basically. Easier than the 2nd tower boss even.
Path to the final tower opened up, but I took a moment to go around the world and collect a few things.
First up was acquiring Suika & Yuugi. Not too bad of a fight really. Decided to drop Suika first, then Yuugi afterwards.
Suika happens to be a new party member, but I chose not to use her because Mokou & Youmu are plenty good enough for doing physical damage. As for Yuugi, she has some pretty useful skills as a shikigami and rather nice offensive stats as well.
Grabbed Tatara as well. Not planning to use her either right now.
Went on my way to the final dungeon while picking up Power Ace going thru Makai 5 in the 3rd stratum. More Saint Chaser users are always nice.
Then I get to the final dungeon (I would assume), and...suddenly the game shifts into destroy everything mode. Enemies suddenly get really really dangerous. I ended up doing minimal battles and basically did a speedrun through the first couple of sections while collecting treasure along the way.
Scored some new shikigamis as well. Keine joined up, I beat up a Lily White in a random battle (Surprisingly easy considering the enemies in the area), and I got some kind of fire witch to join up as well.
Oh yeah, I ran into a Tenshi as well. Utilizing some strategy, mainly involving her not using a 1st turn Ectoplasm Net or nuking my mages and abusing Thunder Chasers with Youmu, she fell after a few attempts. She ended up joining my team as a new shikigami. Didn't have a chance to level her because the next room featured an unwinnable battle, a boss running away, and me getting another shikigami (Akyu), three new characters (Byakuren, Meiling, Yukari), and like three dozen new recipes.
One of those recipes happened to be the Kusanagi Sword. Having the stuff needed for it, I made it right away. Should be good for Youmu and her chaser abuse. Haven't decided on anything else to make yet though.
Also, my final team has been assembled (Reimu, Youmu, Meiling, Byakuren, and Eiki). Whee.
Gonna be leveling up Meiling & Byakuren tomorrow while checking out any areas I can go to with my new fangled longshot. I know there's an area in the Forest of Magic, Heaven, and I think the area where I picked up Medicine, but I don't know if I missed one at all. Hopefully Koishi is in one of those three areas cause she sounds like she'd be a good debuffer of sorts (and those stats, sheesh).
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So, uh, my last question went kind of unanswered.
These (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku) melee (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku) skills (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku) are kind of hard to decipher. Is there a list somewhere?
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These terms, man. Chasers are what, the regular (weak) elemental attacks?
Also, kinda hard to find out which melee ability (the ones you learn by using your sword/spear/blunt object) is effective against which type of enemy. Is there a list for this somewhere?
聖刻十字斬 Sacred Cross Cut
SLAYER: Undead / Youkai
覇王の一閃 Conqueror Flash
SLAYER: Magician / Warrior
強襲彗星剣 Comet Assault
SLAYER: Beast / Insect
居合い斬り Iaigiri
SLAYER: Giants / Psychics
ドラゴンストライク Dragon Strike
SLAYER: Dragons / Beetles / Aquatic
デーモンベイン Demonbane
SLAYER: Majin / Angels / Psychics
ftr, I translated these on the fly because there's no repository that i know of for them
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Majin is Devils, right? And I -think- Psychic might just refer to transcendentals in general, but I'm not sure. Psychic would be a kind of transcendence in itself I suppose, not sure if it's been slimmed down into something more specific since GoS or not. (Or if it was even a more correct translation to be Psychics in GoS, but. But I'm too lazy to go find the japanese characters and see if they're identical, in any case.)
That group gave me trouble in GoS because of me going "...what even counts as that?" until I started being able to remember which image corresponded to which grouping.
...also think that "Beetles" and "Insects" being different groups looks weird, as does Beetle being covered by "Dragon Strike". Google translate says aquatic reptile dragons, is that what it should be?
From what I remember, those (which are all sword skills) are all the slayer skills in the game. There are slayers on weapons of all types (Not rods, but) but just not on their actual skills.
But anyway, it's very nice to have all those done and in one easy place. Slayers is definitely one of the more obfuscating things in playing the game in japanese without knowing it.
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Majin is Devils, right?
Yeah.
Psychic would be a kind of transcendence in itself I suppose, not sure if it's been slimmed down into something more specific since GoS or not.
I refer them to as transcendents, a.k.a. the goat head icon.
being able to remember which image corresponded to which grouping.
That was the easiest thing for me. The hardest was remembering which moon runes corresponded to the appropriate sword for Sakuya, but I ended up remembering them by their attack power :3
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don't ask me where i got beetles from, i was tired :derp:
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1.12 is out! It just ends the valentines event, nothing else.
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Yeah, I looked, and it is only one line saying the event is over and nothing of note on any other changes.
Not sure if I can take this as a sign that this game is almost ready for the translation team to work on, but that's a relief at the very least. Especially considering the engine this game uses was ported to GoS and it proved that the new engine is much more stable even with a english patch used on GoS.
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I see no reason translation couldn't start now. I'd start on it myself if I knew (and could read) Japanese, but, well, yeah.
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I see no reason translation couldn't start now.
Presumably no one wants to re-translate any text that changes (or gets added) in future patches.
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I see no reason translation couldn't start now. I'd start on it myself if I knew (and could read) Japanese, but, well, yeah.
The game got 12 patches in just a bit over 1 month.
Let's wait for the patches to stop rolling in please; then I'll help.
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I don't think the patches are over yet - remember the shikigami and skill contests? Well they said to look forward to something in the future. Also, the Valentines event was stated to end at February 7th, so it wouldn't make sense to delay a patch just so they didn't have to only change one thing.
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Baaaawah... I hope they add in the Ten Desires cast in Devil of Decline in a future patch. :V
But, then again one can only hope and dream. :derp:
Edit: Took me two tries to beat up the Earth Demon to get Suwako, and I gotta say my Yuka and Byakuren trolled the boss pretty badly enough due to Yuka was doing 323 damage whenever my Byakuren had used Chain Slash with her lighting Sword. I gotta say revenge is sooooooooo dam sweet. Odd thing though the boss at the end used a Regen Field that healed 90 HP and canceled my Earth Jammer field. Oh well, it didn't do him any good anyway by the time I was done with him. :V
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I think the 'fix' patches are probably pretty much done. There may be patches to add stuff, but that should be easy to add into an English patch, right? It'd be very little work compared to translating what the game has now, and unless I'm way the hell off on my understanding of how these things work, it'd probably be fairly simple to add the new stuff into the patch files.
Basically, the post I was replying to was wondering if it was fairly safe for the translation to get started, and I was voicing the opinion that yes, it is.
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To be honest, the reason I said I wasn't sure if it was safe to translate the game yet has to do with a critical detail that occurs when patching the game:
See, the problem is that this game is exactly like GoS in terms of patching the game. This means when you have a change that you need to implement into the game, the way things work FORCES you to CHANGE THE ENTIRE GAME to implement a small change, a large change, or even many changes in these. Unfortunately, the thing is, all the text in the game are subject to this problem - which means every time that a patch comes out, you end up having to merge files in the correct way with the Japanese version just to get the English patch to work. Furthermore, the company may decide to change some of their text, requiring extra translations on top of that as well.
That's why we want to go 2 weeks or more without a patch before it's safe to say so. Besides, like homing said, I'm not sure Valentine's Event was the thing they said to look forward to, which means they might have another event planned. The Yuuka cutscene bug (thank god for skip) still exists for some people on version 1.11, and I'm not entirely sure if the Suika bug was squashed in 1.11, so we still have fixes to look forward to.
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See, the problem is that this game is exactly like GoS in terms of patching the game. This means when you have a change that you need to implement into the game, the way things work FORCES you to CHANGE THE ENTIRE GAME to implement a small change, a large change, or even many changes in these. Unfortunately, the thing is, all the text in the game are subject to this problem - which means every time that a patch comes out, you end up having to merge files in the correct way with the Japanese version just to get the English patch to work.
That's not necessarily as big of a deal with with GoS/DoD because the files are all text-based, and a three-way merge can deal with most of the work automatically.
You could go even further and write a tool that compares the text fields in a CSV file between two versions of the game, copies the translated string when the translation doesn't need updated, or copies and marks entries that need a TL check. That's not necessary now since we're waiting, but it is doable.
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Could start text dumping in the meantime, right?
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Ah so, I wasn't the only one who kept crashing when I tried to select, Suika then... good because, the bug was not fixed even in patch 1.12. :(
Edit: FINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY!!!!!!!! I FINALLY BEATED EIRIN AND KAGUYA ON MY BYAKUREN ROUTE FILE!!!!!
Thank goodness I had learned 覇王の一閃 Conqueror Flash so early with Byakuren.
Byakuren was doing 1,283 on Kaguya and Eirin thanks to Yuyuko/Koishi getting a few lucky de-buffs on Kaguya and Eirin with Subterranean Rose while Sanae/Nazrin used Weapon Breath along with Marisa/Dragon Maid using Dragon Blessing. Yuka/Komachi helped out with the damages too. Sanae managed to sneak in a few heals while Conqueror Flash was on cooldown, I used Yuugi's Knock out in 3 steps combined with Aya's 41 mp skill to double the damage I did on Eirin which made her go down faster.
DE-buffs that I had used:
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/ZoraSmile/Bringiton.jpg)
Party/Shikigamis that were used in the battle:
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/ZoraSmile/IFINALLYwon.jpg)
Sheesh,,, that battle was a PAIN IN THE ASS CRACK... now I have to suffer on my Yukari route run.
Welp... now let's see if I can beat up the Tower bosses again... starting with the 2nd Tower.
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Haven't done too terribly much these past few days aside from leveling up Meiling and Byakuren a whole bunch. Pretty happy with how they are turning out. Meiling's got pretty good offensive stats while Byakuren is essentially another Eiki stat wise.
Even started grinding in the lower levels of the final dungeon. It does require having some specific shikigami equipped to handle some of the more nastier mobs. Even then, there were still some enemies I just plain didn't like (Those tank enemies with the ass kicking cannonball AoE and Beholders whom can randomly use a skill that can cancel out magic casting that turn. Doubly sucks if the Beholder comes with annoying monsters too).
On the plus side got a bunch of accessories from battles, recruited a Beholder, and got a couple weapon drops, one of them being the Plasma Knife. Byakuren actually does surprisingly well with this weapon equipped right now.
Character level wise, I'm around 35-36 for Reimu/Youmu/Eiki and 29 for Meiling & Byakuren.
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Haven't done too terribly much these past few days aside from leveling up Meiling and Byakuren a whole bunch. Pretty happy with how they are turning out. Meiling's got pretty good offensive stats while Byakuren is essentially another Eiki stat wise.
Even started grinding in the lower levels of the final dungeon. It does require having some specific shikigami equipped to handle some of the more nastier mobs. Even then, there were still some enemies I just plain didn't like (Those tank enemies with the ass kicking cannonball AoE and Beholders whom can randomly use a skill that can cancel out magic casting that turn. Doubly sucks if the Beholder comes with annoying monsters too).
On the plus side got a bunch of accessories from battles, recruited a Beholder, and got a couple weapon drops, one of them being the Plasma Knife. Byakuren actually does surprisingly well with this weapon equipped right now.
Character level wise, I'm around 35-36 for Reimu/Youmu/Eiki and 29 for Meiling & Byakuren.
I hate the Tanks too... they spam that dang cannonball A.O.E like it's no tomorrow. :V
But, the huge dragons and that weird angel with the green gem are the ones that push my buttons in a bad way.
Also, I would like to say the tower 3 rematch boss is such a troll... help... :derp:
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I hate the Tanks too... they spam that dang cannonball A.O.E like it's no tomorrow. :V
But, the huge dragons and that weird angel with the green gem are the ones that push my buttons in a bad way.
Also, I would like to say the tower 3 rematch boss is such a troll... help... :derp:
I leveled up a bunch trying to get various enemies to join (King/Hagure/Sisters, Greater Daemon, G-3, no luck on any of them >:( ). When I came back and tried her, I was able to just stomp her into the ground by spamming my strongest physicals.
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Today's session of DoD had me running the final dungeon from the beginning for more exp. If I got any items & shikigami, that'd be even better.
Good thing I did because I found a hidden passage in the first part of the final dungeon a couple screens past where you get a shikigami in a cutscene. Those sneaky hidden passages D:. It had some crafting items and a silver chest with a bunch of accessory recipes (The ones that boost stuff like Atk, Def, M.Def, HP/MP, and so on).
Also during this part, I got a drop from the Beholder, an accessory that does...something. Heck if I know what though ;P.
Second part of the final dungeon I just cleared out damn near everything I could while finishing up with item collection here.
After all that, tackled part 3 of the final dungeon which featured a music change for the area and a new battle theme. Both of them are very catchy and very nicely done (Battle Theme especially).
Enemies started much tamer compared to the last two parts. The Lizard Knights had some rather nasty looking AoE attacks while the Gapuin enemies had really really high evasion...but only 100 HP. The high evasion part doesn't really mean much when one hit sends them packing + being weak to thunder attacks + my Eiki being really fast and having the Dragon Maid equipped.
I did get one of those Gapuin enemies to join my party though so I guess there's that.
At the higher levels of part 3, things turned fairly quickly. There was these giant slime globs that appeared in GoS...stage 13 I believe (the heaven stage IIRC).
Protip for these suckers: Do NOT shift the land toward thunder's favor heavily. You will get spammed by a thunder attack that will basically kick your ass and leave it by the wayside. I had a laugh when I saw the attack for the first time because I was spamming thunder element attacks that fight and saw it spike my Meiling and Reimu for ~320 damage while Youmu got wiped twice over as it did a little over 700 damage to her. I ended up getting Game Over'd by the sucker spamming that attack over and over and over.
At least once I figured out it was weak to Ice, all I needed was Meiling with a normal attack using her ice element sword, Eiki with an Ice Breath, and Youmu performing an Ice Chaser to drop it on subsequent encounters with it. I even got one to join my party after killing a few of them. Has weaknesses to Fire/Ice, but double circle resists in Slash/Pierce/Blunt. That could be very useful for some boss fights methinks.
Back to annoying monsters, I'd have to agree with MewMewHeart about the new dragon enemy and the enemy with a green gem in its chest. Both are asses, plain and simple.
As for boss fights, I managed to take out Kaguys & Eirin before ending my session for today. I setup Youmu for the sole purpose of being able to pull off some massive damage, Meiling to fill a similar role (Not anywhere near what I could do with Youmu sadly enough), and everyone else for support (and decent damage in the case of Byakuren).
Kaguya & Eirin are goddamn dingbat extremes. Kaguya beats you up with magic, Eirin with physicals that seem to be 90% hit your entire damn party.
After several fails, I gave Meiling Koakuma so she could kick off the fight with Dark Illusion. That way if Eirin wanted to try a screw you, I could nullify it one time. They both went before Meiling, but on my winning attempt, they thankfully went for the least threatening combo of moves...Kaguya using Detonate which hit Eiki and someone else while Eirin pulled off the Jackpot field effect.
Also on turn #1, I had Youmu buff everyone's Str, Reimu just poked something for lulzs, Byakuren to use Lyrica's Heat Weapon buff, and Eiki to use Nazrin's Weapon Bless on Youmu.
Turn #2...I planned for Kaguya to go down hard. Reimu used Aya's skill that let someone use a skill twice that turn. Used it on Youmu, she used Lunasa's single target attack skill that costs 10 MP and hits really really hard sometimes , Meiling fired off Murasa's Colosseo World field effect that nullifies healing for everyone, Byakuren I believed fire off a Conqueror Flash (Or whatever that skill is that has slayer effects on Magicians & Warriors), and Eiki used Dragon Maid's Dragon Force buff on Youmu.
Would have helped if Youmu didn't miss on one of her Lunasa attacks, but when it did hit...Kaguya got whacked for roughly 1800-1900 damage while being equipped with the weapon the Saladins in the 3rd tower drop that has Magician & Warrior slayer effects. Kaguya & Eirin have 5000 HP. It sure adds up ;P.
Next turn...Kaguya got boomed with a combination of Meiling using Chen's Sword Chaser skill and some application of Conqueror Flash.
The next two turns had Eirin failing to revive Kaguya thanks to Colosseo World while she got rolled hard via Lunasa's attack & Conqueror Flash spam.
Got both as shikigamis afterwards. Kaguya has some very powerful magic attacks while Eirin seems to start out with a heal spell. Think I'll be leveling both of them while hunting down a Decarabia and hopefully getting it to join my team.
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I leveled up a bunch trying to get various enemies to join (King/Hagure/Sisters, Greater Daemon, G-3, no luck on any of them >:( ). When I came back and tried her, I was able to just stomp her into the ground by spamming my strongest physicals.
I managed to get one of those Zombies with a Chainsaw shikigami to join my party today, I might explore the 1st tower rematch dungeon so, I can grab a few treasures, and try to level up my people. My main party is going to be Byakuren, Yuka, Marisa, Yuyuko, and Sanae. Funny thing though during the rematch against Chole, she missed with Fullmoon revenge on Yuyuko and only got her once by 225 damage which didn't help her case. But still I think you're right Shim, I do need to level up... because being level 34~ 35 is not going to cut it, if I want to tone down the final boss.
@Anima Zero:
I told you both of them were a pain in the ass... and even alone the Angel with the green gem can lolwut pwn you in a nano second if you don't have high light resistance and allow it to shift the land to Light. Even then using it's weakness which is Darkness doesn't help much since it seems to have some high magic defense.
The Dragon I warned you about in the final dungeon can be recruited as a shikigami from what I read on the Japanese wiki, but I'm not taking the risk of getting one right now, I might do what you're doing and get a Decarabia and I might try and hunt down a few things also, like the Gauntlet of thieves from Star Platinum which gives +25% chance of an item dropping.
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So I said I would finally get around to resuming playing this game, right? Well, I certainly did, because right now I can enter the third stratum AND I killed the second stratum tower main boss (to be honest, I don't even know why this boss and the third tower main boss are much easier compared to the first tower main boss). So I guess I shall go on a monster hunting spree.
but first before I do that, didn't I recall someone saying there were Touhou shikigamis I could recruit in the second stratum tower unless I misremembered? Also, I'm at 13 touhou characters recruited for the main party. All this happened and the main party was below level 20 overall. EDIT: Managed to confuse the second tower with the third tower somehow. Bleh.
Also, I need to remember which touhou shikigamis are rare encounters and require you to get Satori beforehand.
EDIT: What the hell is a prescott? ??? I might note this is on the japanese wiki on the list of captureable monsters by the way, and it's on the first stratum.
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EDIT: What the hell is a prescott? ??? I might note this is on the japanese wiki on the list of captureable monsters by the way, and it's on the first stratum.
It's a PC component. :P
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LOL I got one of those Prescott monsters ahahahaha, but can anyone... tell me...
How the heck do I put, more damage output against the Tower rematch bosses, seriously I've been doing lolwutunub damage during my rounds with the tower boss rematches.
I have the higher up weapons, shikigami that are useful, know their weaknesses and flaws, and high craft armor.
Does it have to do with the fact that level 37s are not cutout to be doing the rematch tower bosses yet? :derp:
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EDIT: What the hell is a prescott? ??? I might note this is on the japanese wiki on the list of captureable monsters by the way, and it's on the first stratum.
It's one of those monsters whose name changes after you recruit them, and it's a computer chip (specifically, a processor).
For those that didn't "get it", Prescott was a code name for one of the Pentium 4 cores. IIRC the enemy also has "IV" on the core of its die :3
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LOL I got one of those Prescott monsters ahahahaha, but can anyone... tell me...
How the heck do I put, more damage output against the Tower rematch bosses, seriously I've been doing lolwutunub damage during my rounds with the tower boss rematches.
I have the higher up weapons, shikigami that are useful, know their weaknesses and flaws, and high craft armor.
Does it have to do with the fact that level 37s are not cutout to be doing the rematch tower bosses yet? :derp:
The same strategy still totally shuts down the first tower redux fight, but you might need a few levels for the other ones.
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The same strategy still totally shuts down the first tower redux fight, but you might need a few levels for the other ones.
I had a feeling, that must of been why I was not dealing enough damage on the 2nd and 3rd tower rematch bosses.
I just need to get a few stuff ready for the first Tower boss then find some means to do more damage.
Since MP is going to be my biggest gripe for the 1st Tower rematch boss.
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Looks like I still have some computer hardware lessons to learn, still.
Anyways, I'm confused as hell on how you get to the bottom areas of the third stratum. I've been to the endless desert and that's for the final tower, so that leaves the 'foggy' area where you get on the boat which should be near the leftmost tower. The question is, how am I supposed to get the other exits in that area, especially since there's three exits and I'm at the first exit? ??? EDIT: ... you can't be serious, there WERE secret passages? Welp, disregard that question I was asking.
And I have most of the monster hunting done in the previous stratum including the few huntable monsters in the second tower and started getting less than half the list on the general third stratum, so go me! :toot:
Also, it has been two weeks since the 1.12 patch and more than four weeks since 1.11 which was the last patch with actual changes. Which leads me to suspect that the quote that was said earlier in the contest might just be referring to the expansion.
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Anyways, I'm confused as hell on how you get to the bottom areas of the third stratum. I've been to the endless desert and that's for the final tower, so that leaves the 'foggy' area where you get on the boat which should be near the leftmost tower. The question is, how am I supposed to get the other exits in that area, especially since there's three exits and I'm at the first exit? ???
Fog patches. Try going through them.
EDIT: Nevermind, you found them.
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Bump because the Translation Thread for DoD has arisen. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12287)
Don't go in and expect there to be any patch to download, because they've only just begun translation. But I know that most people don't stalk that part of the board for things like this (like I do *cough*), so just gettin' the word out there, mostly for the sake of possibly notifying any japanese -> english translators or someone who can image edit rather then just getting everyone excited for something that isn't quite available yet!
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Bump because the Translation Thread for DoD has arisen. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12287)
Whurs the translation patch?
I KID DONT SHOOT ME.
Seriously though, has anybody completed this game yet? I checked the op, and did a crtl-f for "length", and "long" but no dice. But how does this game's length compare to GoS (without its expansion)?
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Seriously though, has anybody completed this game yet? I checked the op, and did a crtl-f for "length", and "long" but no dice. But how does this game's length compare to GoS (without its expansion)?
I think it's much shorter than GoS :F
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When I asked for a time estimate on Poosh the person said 30 hours.
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And now another bump because the expansion was announced (http://www.gensoukyou.org/matsuri/).
So far, looks like we're getting an increase in the level cap to 99, three new characters (Kasen, Toyohime and Yorihime), a monster encyclopedia, new weapon skills, better Last Words, and nothing from TD.
It's going to be released on this next Reitaisai.
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Toyohime and Yorihime? That's... unexpected, to say the least!
I wonder if Reisen II will be a shikigami :V
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So the CD cover picture for the OST was posted at the site:
Oddly enough, the background seems to be very familiar... I wonder why? :V (http://www.gensoukyou.org/bose03/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/3c0052484e2ea3b2adc9eeaa08618f6b.png)
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Oddly enough, the background seems to be very familiar... I wonder why? :V (http://www.gensoukyou.org/bose03/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/3c0052484e2ea3b2adc9eeaa08618f6b.png)
oh
my
god
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Um...
I don't get it.
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Um...
I don't get it.
Mima Mima Mima Mima mimaaaaa <3
At least, I hope so! Otherwise I'll sound silly!
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What leads you to that conclusion? 'Cause I still don't get it.
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There's a face in the background. Look at it really hard and tell me it isn't
Mima, especially since I recognize the hair and the hat as part of her.
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Yeah plus the
veil-thingy around the hat, that's pretty Mima
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Well... See for yourselves at this link. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17722241) This is the pv for the game, I think, if I guessed it right from the way the site apparently changed.
Also, there's also this, although now that I read the title, it's the remake of Genius of Sappherios. (http://www.gensoukyou.org/bose07/)
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Well... See for yourselves at this link. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17722241) This is the pv for the game, I think, if I guessed it right from the way the site apparently changed.
Oh hey the super last words are actually pretty rape-level now! As well as have their own animations. And looks like some old skills they've gone back and made beautiful, which is awesome because I thought some of the old animations were somewhat lacking, at least in comparison to GoS. And also the main game final boss is a
party character now, along with the 3 tower bosses being
shikigami.
Totally cool looking :3
Curiously, one of the 20 cut-ins at the beginning is entirely whited out. I wonder if it's someone who any of the three they announced already? Or maybe they don't want to show off their portrait yet anyway.
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Serela, I'm more surprised you didn't mention this one especially since it was revealed in the video.
It only proves this is going to be a GOTY nomination. :V
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Also, there's also this, although now that I read the title, it's the remake of Genius of Sappherios. (http://www.gensoukyou.org/bose07/)
Wait, a GoS remake? Or is that the patch that makes it run more like DoD or whatever it did?
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Wait, a GoS remake? Or is that the patch that makes it run more like DoD or whatever it did?
Given that it was posted on 5/01 and that there was the twitter that said they would add in easy mode into GoS (or whatever that actually means), I came to the conclusion that it was likely a remake of GoS.
Besides, if they're remaking GoS, I hope Akyuu makes it as a playable character this time.
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It's still somewhat unclear exactly what the GoS thing is (Other then containing easy modo and being GoS-based), although now that a page is up, someone who can read japanese should be able to get a better idea.
It might not be a remake of GoS as much as an easier version, or it may be a remake that simply contains/is also like an easy mode.That fact that it has it's own page and such makes me think it's possibly more significant then just GoS Easy Mode, though, but :shrug:
Rizul:I'm not a big minecraft person, so I only barely even got the reference, much less remembered it :V
Actually this seems to be the only part of the page up so far. Even through google translate, you can pretty much tell what they're saying. (This probably belongs more in the GoS thread I guess but :shrug: They're the same company is DoD, so same interests, etc)
This work was published in 2010 - will be significantly updated version of "God luck Ao Eastern summer heat."
Although there is no change scenario and monsters,
Work has become significantly improve the system around, the ease of aiming more and more user-friendly to play with.
As a major change,
Can be ON at the "Easy Mode" setting in the game
Drop rate is up slightly. The material is particularly significant relationship up
Alchemy recipes are (fewer material was needed) change significantly
Font color change at the time of the attack weakness
Began to take a large correction level of experience
Effect was lightly
Mini-map will be displayed
Abolition of the available items one o'clock
Has become.
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Well, most of these are understandable, but there are two details that google translation messed up:
Effects are lessened. So this means less status lockdowns from foes. Hopefully this doesn't mean a nerf on your own effects.
You won't have to leave a dungeon before you obtain the items you got in it anymore. That will avoid some heart attacks.
I'm... a bit scared on the effects part.
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Was looking at screenshots for the DoD expansion on the bose site.
But... is that lv41 shikigami on Marisa... it sort of looks like (http://puu.sh/sTxW)Rinnosuke
, doesn't it?[/url] /headtilt
Also aww yeah Mine Village :V Remember the shikigami contest?
edit:I looked up the name in japanese on touhou wiki and oh god it really is Rinnosuke
Youmu's MP also looks -way- too high in that image, considering that she has the second-lowest mp stat in the game (119 at lv70). Maybe she's got MP boosting equipment on. It feels too hopeful to think they just significantly boosted her MP growth. (Everyone else's mp looks pretty much what it should be considering levelups and shikigami passive boost)
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And someone just brought up that
Kasen, Yorihime, and Toyohime
aren't actually playable characters - look closely at the part of the trailer where 6 screens go on at once, where they show up as shikigamis. Man, I wanted them as playable characters, but eh, I guess I can live with this fact.
Hm, this means we can start doing theories on who the whited out cut-in is of. :V
Also, youtube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJzIJGquNqQ&feature=plcp
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Hm, this means we can start doing theories on who the whited out cut-in is of. :V
If you look at it before it really whites out... (http://puu.sh/t5Pj)
totally mima
:getdown:
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So the company apparently started up a blog at this link: http://maroku.hatenablog.com/.
Wonder if there's actually anything new or not in there.
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Hello. :)
I have a problem in the final castle of chaos, at the second tower boss's dungeon. Near the healing circle, there are two areas with lots of skulls.
At one of these areas, I have "to light" skulls but I don't know how. Every time I approach them, it does this:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2012/19/1336845176-k.png
I don't understand japanese so I don't know how to do.
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The text pretty much tells you that you see a switch.
To solve the puzzle, take a look at the other room, and how the skulls are lit over there.
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Ok, I see. Thanks for your help.