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Title: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on May 18, 2010, 03:32:44 PM
The previous thread's nearing max replies, so I thought I'd make a new one.

To start off, I'm going to say that I love my Magnezone. I caught a bunch of Magneton in the Safari Zone, bred the one that had the IVs for Fire-type Hidden Power, and wound up with one that had max IVs in Defense and Special Defense.That thing traps and TORCHES Steel-types. It's definitely going to have a place on my future competition team.

You got any Pok?mon you're proud of?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on May 18, 2010, 03:33:29 PM
Tauros
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Drake on May 18, 2010, 04:52:12 PM
Heartbeam wtf how did you manage the jackpot that's like a 1/65535 chance D:
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on May 18, 2010, 05:02:53 PM
I also won the jackpot recently

+1 mb :smug:
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on May 18, 2010, 05:59:04 PM
Tauros
dongz

I'm pretty damn proud of my Togekiss, I must say. My Jirachi, as well.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on May 18, 2010, 06:01:32 PM
I still remember raising my Breloom like it was yesterday :old:
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on May 18, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
I remember raising my Venusaur to level 100 in Pok?mon Red version.

I was only 9 or so. I'm still proud of it even if I don't have the game anymore :(

Now I feel old. I'm 20. xD
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on May 18, 2010, 08:19:22 PM
I'm actually not very proud of my pokemon i have and will likely reset my games and make 1 single team.

All I got are a bunch of sweepers.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: COPIRIGHTO on May 18, 2010, 08:26:59 PM
I love my Togekiss for one shotting an Arceus
I love my Alakazam for...sweeping
I love my Pikachu for having one every pokemon game I have...except for blue
I love my Tyranitar because I raised it since I was eleven years old
I love my FEAR Starly even though I never tried using it
sixth slot goes to whatever
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Lord Scalgon on May 20, 2010, 04:12:57 AM
*wonders what people would think if he said he's proud of his RNG abused Pokemon

Speaking of which, I'm proud of hatching a 31/31/31/31/31/31 shiny Naive Bagon, with Dragon Dance as an egg move.  RNG abuse ftw.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: mew77 on May 20, 2010, 05:28:22 AM
How dows one go about abusing the RNG?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Lord Scalgon on May 20, 2010, 05:58:50 AM
How dows one go about abusing the RNG?

As in how to do it?  If so...well, since I pretty much suck at explaining this, Smogon explains this way better than I do.   I guess I'll try to explain in my own words.  It's just that you have to hit the correct time, delay, and frame.  For example, if you play Platinum, and you reset at...say 15:00:00, if you select to continue your game at 15:00:15, you would hit a delay of 650.  Really, before you do anything else, calibrate your delay - it's important.

And speaking of delays...hopefully this might help some of you, should you learn it (I don't think this is mentioned in Smogon):

Platinum: (seconds/delay)
14 - 590
15 - 650
16 - 710
17 - 770
18 - 830
19 - 890
20 - 950

Heart Gold/Soul Silver: (seconds/delay...remember, it works differently)
14 - 520
15 - 580
16 - 640
17 - 700
18 - 760
19 - 820
20 - 880
21 - 940
22 - 1000

(sorry, I don't know about Diamond/Pearl...I've never RNG'd before in those cartridges)

If the delay you're looking for has an odd number, you might as well grab a 3rd gen game (preferrably Emerald).  If not, you're pretty much out of luck; therefore you're stuck with even-number delays.

Oh, and get a coin flip (#15) application.  This is to determine whether you hit the correct seed/delay or not.

If you're attempting to catch/hatch shinies, well, let me ask you this - did you unintentionally encounter a shiny?  If so, use that to your advantage to find your 'Secret ID' - which determines which seed will contain that shiny.  Unfortunately, I've never discovered my SID this way - I obtained it through another method.  It's easier to check your SID in HG/SS (because of the Red Gyarados), really.  And as for hatching, you will also need a happiness checker (#6).  Why, you ask?  To determine how many taps/coin flips you need to guarantee that shiny.  RNG Reporter will tell you all that.  Remember - everyone has a different SID.

Well, that should do it...let me know if you have any problems.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on May 20, 2010, 04:46:15 PM
*wonders what people would think if he said he's proud of his RNG abused Pokemon
Hell, just be proud that you're skilled enough to manipulate the RNG in the first place.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Drake on May 20, 2010, 11:07:06 PM
I am so proud of my Togekiss. Ever since I hatched it at Union Cave it's only brought me amazingness. It's taken down more or less every major battle in the game, save Red, who is going to get his ass kicked later. Smiles ilu <3
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kuma on May 20, 2010, 11:12:27 PM
I love all of my pokemon because I am a big faggot

Also, I'm re-playing my old Ruby version because  why the hell not, I'm going to give shedinja and gardevoir spot on my main team
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on May 20, 2010, 11:25:06 PM
My ridiculously overleveled in-game Jigglypuff. Sure, it does crap damage, but it's got my Amulet Coin and money makes me happy. Plus, it's the only one who stood a chance against Lance's Dragonites. Hooray for slaving through Voltorb Flip to get Ice Beam!

There's also that Porygon-Z I bred last weekend. ~64 Power HP Fighting, Adaptability, and a 30 IV in sp. atk is good enough for me.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Drake on May 20, 2010, 11:28:06 PM
My ridiculously overleveled in-game Jigglypuff.
place-fist-here-so-i-can-brofist-you-across-the-internet.jpg
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on May 21, 2010, 12:05:10 AM
Drake likes fluffy ball shaped pokemon :]

Not that there's anything wrong with that :3
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on May 23, 2010, 09:29:15 PM
So am I the only one obsessive enough to nickname every legendary I catch? I'm using Winter/Spring/Summer for the RBY bird trio, Sun/Moon for the GS birds, Behemoth/Leviathan/Ziz for the RSE trio, Reason/Passion/Instinct for the lake trio, and Kusanagi/Kagami/Magatama for the DPPt legendary trio.

Your nicknames of choice?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kuma on May 23, 2010, 09:42:36 PM
At first I chose to make sure that the Legendaries were the only things I DIDN'T nickname in my diamond version, but in my Heartgold, I do give them Names

My lvl 1 Giratina is named Lucy
The RSE trio is Behmoth/Leviathan/Ziz
Still havn't decided what I want to name Lugia, Ho-oh, or the 3 beasts yet. I'll probably name Suicun Satsuki though.
and if I catch Latiwatever I'll name it after a pop idol

Also, If I can, I'd name my lvl100 event arceus "T" and make it the last spot on a team of Unown that spell F A G G O
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: theshirn on May 23, 2010, 09:48:02 PM
I have never bred, RNG abused, or gone EV training.

My Alakazam at level 45 one-shotted almost the entire Elite Four (except Dark types and Lance).

Everything else is decidedly meh.  Currently have 11 badges.  Alakazam is killing almost everything.  Several levels of +5 Special Attack and +4 speed are helpful.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on May 23, 2010, 10:59:20 PM
Named my Platinum Giratina-O Yukarin :derp:
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kuma on May 23, 2010, 11:05:16 PM
I have never bred, RNG abused, or gone EV training.

You are my new bro
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on May 26, 2010, 09:21:21 PM
So how about that Latias Ban :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on May 26, 2010, 10:07:55 PM
I grow tired of tiers and all of these added rules.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on May 26, 2010, 10:58:26 PM
I grow tired of tiers and all of these added rules.
:dealwithit:
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Lord Scalgon on May 27, 2010, 05:06:13 AM
So how about that Latias Ban :V

...and Salamence could be the next Pokemon to be sent to ubers.  Maybe.  Should that happen, the OU metagame would change.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on May 27, 2010, 08:34:41 AM
I grow tired of tiers and all of these added rules.
Imagine a pokemon version of this (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2889/brawltierlistsh3.jpg)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on May 27, 2010, 09:17:58 AM
I grow tired of tiers and all of these added rules.

This is exactly why I prefer WiFi battles over Shoddy, because there are no rules except those you impose between yourselves.

My friend whomped me with a Purugly Hypnosis because she forgot to invoke sleep clause and I assumed she had. So :B
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on May 27, 2010, 12:03:15 PM
Imagine a pokemon version of this (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2889/brawltierlistsh3.jpg)

NO UBERS
NO OU
SLEEP CLAUSE
FREEZE CLAUSE
SANTA CLAUS
CLAUSE CLAUSE
FINAL DESTINATION
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on May 27, 2010, 02:57:53 PM
Imagine a pokemon version of this (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2889/brawltierlistsh3.jpg)

What the hell is this and why didn't I see it earlier? S_S
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on May 27, 2010, 05:53:21 PM
SANTA CLAUS
Oh man

I'm using SANTA CLAUS in all my Pokemon battles now BV
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on May 27, 2010, 06:07:25 PM
Did I seriously come up with that this morning?

I was half asleep, I don't even remember posting it xD
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on May 27, 2010, 09:08:21 PM
Imagine a pokemon version of this (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2889/brawltierlistsh3.jpg)

That would be ridiculously huge due to all the pokemon and the fact that they can all have different sets.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on May 27, 2010, 09:29:15 PM
That would be ridiculously huge due to all the pokemon and the fact that they can all have different sets.
every tourneyfag needs a tool to prove that he had a disadvantage

Quote from: Encyclopedia Dramatica
Get over it bitch, you lost because you suck.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on May 27, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
Imagine a pokemon version of this (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2889/brawltierlistsh3.jpg)
You mean like this? (http://i38.tinypic.com/34e7u5h.png)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on May 27, 2010, 10:55:41 PM
You mean like this? (http://i38.tinypic.com/34e7u5h.png)
Casualfag version, yes
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on May 28, 2010, 05:30:11 PM
Meet Black and White Legendaries Reshiram and Zekrom (http://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/14919057462)

scheduled for a Spring 2011 release
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on May 28, 2010, 06:39:54 PM
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3525/080519.jpg)
/typical response
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Drake on May 28, 2010, 06:50:10 PM
By the way if you didn't notice, Zekrom is the legendary for White and Reshiram for Black. Opposites.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on May 28, 2010, 06:53:09 PM
By the way if you didn't notice, Zekrom is the legendary for White and Reshiram for Black. Opposites.
Oh

:3
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on May 28, 2010, 06:56:14 PM
Reshiram looks neater imo, so I suppose I'll be getting Black version :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: dustyjo on May 28, 2010, 07:52:37 PM
The photo you were looking for no longer exists.


:(
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on May 28, 2010, 07:53:40 PM
here (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on May 28, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Reshiram looks neater imo, so I suppose I'll be getting Black version :V

I like Turbines and SR weak legendaries (Plus it falls into the catagory of pokemon that look overly serious yet fluffy in the art) so it's Reshiram for me as well.

/me waits for the other legendary to be a more viable Uber AGAIN
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on May 28, 2010, 09:41:19 PM
/me waits for the other legendary to be a more viable Uber AGAIN
You got Ruby, Diamond and SoulSilver too, didn't you?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: :o) on May 29, 2010, 02:03:24 AM
Diamond and SoulSilver

Lugia and Dialga are in overall much better due to not requiring specific teammates or only being used to beat/take advantage of Kyogre
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on May 29, 2010, 02:25:47 AM
I actually think I like Zekrom more than Reshiram, so I may be getting White version. They both surprisingly look pretty to me, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: :o) on May 29, 2010, 04:16:38 AM
Magicarp is one of the top 10 leads on the Ubers ladder on shoddy battle.  This can only mean good things for the Metagame :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on May 29, 2010, 04:28:37 AM
Magicarp is one of the top 10 leads on the Ubers ladder on shoddy battle.  This can only mean good things for the Metagame :V
This is why. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye7b3bOQ6lY) Flail's disturbingly useful.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on May 29, 2010, 04:58:54 AM
Magicarp is one of the top 10 leads on the Ubers ladder on shoddy battle.  This can only mean good things for the Metagame :V

This is why. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye7b3bOQ6lY) Flail's disturbingly useful.

Flail. It is awesome
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on May 29, 2010, 12:14:10 PM
Magikarp doesn't fuck around, yo
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Jelly Belly on May 31, 2010, 07:52:18 PM
NO UBERS
NO OU
SLEEP CLAUSE
FREEZE CLAUSE
SANTA CLAUS
CLAUSE CLAUSE
FINAL DESTINATION
YOU FORGOT THE CLAUS (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/3715/761312-claus_super.jpg) CLAUSE!  :V

Nidoking is a pro pok?mon and you're not cool if you don't own one.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Prody on June 01, 2010, 02:52:49 PM
LATIAS UBER
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 01, 2010, 04:55:13 PM
Nidoking is a pro pok?mon and you're not cool if you don't own one.
I honestly got one just for the Pok?dex data, but I'm considering training one for real just because it's got a damn awesome movepool.

Lanturn's also become one of my favorites during my SoulSilver playthrough because of Volt Absorb. Try and shock me now, you yellow merchandising whore
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Jelly Belly on June 01, 2010, 08:22:18 PM
I never really noticed how few good pok?mon the DIamond/Pearl pok?dex is so...... reccomend me some pok?mons?
I already have a Turtwig and a Staravia and I'm currently located in Floaroma town.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 01, 2010, 09:12:56 PM
I never really noticed how few good pok?mon the DIamond/Pearl pok?dex is so...... reccomend me some pok?mons?
I already have a Turtwig and a Staravia and I'm currently located in Floaroma town.
Starly/Staravia/Staraptor is the best of the early-game birds by a longshot, stick with it (it's also going to be useful for the next couple gyms).

For the next few routes, I'd recommend picking up a Buizel and/or a Shinx.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Jelly Belly on June 01, 2010, 09:20:56 PM
Starly/Staravia/Staraptor is the best of the early-game birds by a longshot, stick with it (it's also going to be useful for the next couple gyms).

For the next few routes, I'd recommend picking up a Buizel and/or a Shinx.
But..... that's so last playthrough.
Okay, still picking up Buizel for pimpin' awesomeness. And I need to figure out a new nickname for him.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on June 01, 2010, 09:50:52 PM
So how about that Latias Ban :V
LATIAS UBER

As for Pokemon in early D/P Shinx sucks.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Jelly Belly on June 01, 2010, 10:03:18 PM
As for Pokemon in early D/P Shinx sucks.
Hi my strongest physical electric move has only 65 power.
Luxray actually sucked when I used him so I hate him.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 01, 2010, 11:10:42 PM
Hi my strongest physical electric move has only 65 power.
Luxray actually sucked when I used him so I hate him.
Well, if you need an Electric attack, Haunter/Gengar or Clefable can use Thunderbolt fairly effectively.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Jelly Belly on June 02, 2010, 02:33:17 PM
Well, if you need an Electric attack, Haunter/Gengar or Clefable can use Thunderbolt fairly effectively.
I don't think I really need any pok?mon exept for a water type actually.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 02, 2010, 07:59:49 PM
I don't think I really need any pok?mon exept for a water type actually.
Well, your choices at the moment seem to be Buizel and Magikarp, unless you want to grind a Bidoof or something.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: theshirn on June 02, 2010, 08:36:47 PM
Brand new Platinum file.

Recommendations?

(Also where can I get my Abra and Gastly in this one because they are friggin' staples of my team)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 02, 2010, 08:51:31 PM
Brand new Platinum file.

Recommendations?

(Also where can I get my Abra and Gastly in this one because they are friggin' staples of my team)

Start with Chimchar, Fire-types are harder to find than Grass or Water in D/P/Pt.

The earliest Abra can be found is on Route 203 (just east of Jubilife). Gastly can be occasionally encountered in Eterna Forest, you're guaranteed to find one in the mansion you can access there after getting Cut. If you're willing to look you can have both Pok?mon before your second badge.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: theshirn on June 02, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
If you're willing to look you can have both Pok?mon before your second badge.
Sounds good.

Tentative team: Infernape, Alakazam, Gengar (all for sure), Gastrodon, Staraptor, ???

Staraptor's probably in, not so sure about the last two slots.  Need a water type (not enthusiastic about Gastrodon though), maybe a grass?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on June 03, 2010, 07:53:49 AM
So I'm playing some Pokemon Heart Gold. This is some good stuff. WIth the help of Garlyle, I have probably the most random (planned) final team ever.

Feraligatr, Jumpluff, Yanmega, Girafarig, Jolteon, and Mamoswine

Let the lulz begin!
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Jelly Belly on June 03, 2010, 10:58:46 AM
I had a Yanmega when I played Heart Gold.
It did nothing but spam Flash and SonicBoom.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 03, 2010, 03:27:02 PM
So I'm playing some Pokemon Heart Gold. This is some good stuff. WIth the help of Garlyle, I have probably the most random (planned) final team ever.

Feraligatr, Jumpluff, Yanmega, Girafarig, Jolteon, and Mamoswine
It is random, but you have a lot of good selections on there. The Mamoswine looks like it will be very helpful against Lance.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Jelly Belly on June 03, 2010, 09:36:14 PM
I'm thinking of accidentally pressing B + Start + Whatever and going "oops" on my Heart Gold. :V
Maybe.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: theshirn on June 04, 2010, 01:39:36 AM
Tentative team: Infernape, Alakazam, Gengar (all for sure), Gastrodon, Staraptor, ???
And now Gastrodon has been replaced with a Gyarados and for some reason I have a Jolteon making funny noises at me in slot six.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on June 04, 2010, 12:03:19 PM
Gyarados is awesome you can chuck 2-3 HM's on it and It can still kill things reliably assuming it got the Waterfall HM.

It also has some crazy moves availible like Thunder Wave
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 04, 2010, 03:00:24 PM
Gyarados is indeed awesome. I trained a Magikarp from the Pok?walker, I'm running Waterfall/Earthquake/Ice Fang/Dragon Dance. I probably should have kept Bounce on, but a) I don't like 2-turn moves and b) I feel Ice Fang has better type coverage.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: theshirn on June 04, 2010, 10:33:23 PM
And now Gastrodon has been replaced with a Gyarados and for some reason I have a Jolteon making funny noises at me in slot six.  Oh well.
And now for some reason I have a Scyther instead of the Jolteon.  The Jolteon is probably better balance for my team, but c'mon, it's a Scyther.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on June 11, 2010, 08:37:46 PM
More new Black/White Pok?mon revealed! (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Drake on June 11, 2010, 09:11:55 PM
Chinchilla with Technician, most likely available near the start of the game. I know what I'm starting out with!!!
I love how immediately after they note Technician they note a multi-hit attack. Great stuff.

Also, POKEMON FOLLOW YOU AGAIN HUZZAH (http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/corocoro-new-pokemon-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: dustyjo on June 12, 2010, 02:20:28 AM
okay

why does a used copy of diamond/pearl cost less than firered/leafgreen
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on June 12, 2010, 02:38:34 AM
okay

why does a used copy of diamond/pearl cost less than firered/leafgreen
[/quote

FRLG is older therefore it is rarer than DPPt
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kuma on June 12, 2010, 10:32:50 AM
We have the Derp and the Bird, but where's  the Mascot?

Gen 1 had Rattata, Pidgy, and Pikachu
Gen 2 had Sentret, Hoothoot, and Marill
Gen 3 had Zigzagoon, Wingull and Plusel/Minun
Gen 4 had Bidoof, Starly, and Pachirisu
now gen 5 has Chinchilla, Pidgeon, and... ?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Prody on June 12, 2010, 12:06:23 PM
That pigeon looks exactly like a pigeon
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on June 12, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
We have the Derp and the Bird, but where's  the Mascot?

Gen 1 had Rattata, Pidgy, and Pikachu
Gen 2 had Sentret, Hoothoot, and Marill
Gen 3 had Zigzagoon, Wingull and Plusel/Minun
Gen 4 had Bidoof, Starly, and Pachirisu
now gen 5 has Chinchilla, Pidgeon, and... ?

From the looks of it, I was kind of thinking that the Chinchilla was gonna be the mascot. It's so adorable!
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on June 12, 2010, 12:48:28 PM
Awesome I called it Reshiram is SR weak again but Ho-oh and Groudon get a new friend.

So far when I get Black I think i'll get that Crocodile and the Pidgeon because I always get the Normal/Flying Bird.

The Crocodile's could be very interesting competitively with that new ability.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2010, 04:14:26 PM
Quote
Random Match: The Random Match feature allows for players to battle with random players across the world without the need for friend codes or prior communication.
Fuckin finally
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on June 13, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
it's gonna be so fun having to fight hacked ubers all the time
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on June 13, 2010, 06:41:25 PM
it's gonna be so fun having to fight hacked ubers all the time
With my Smeargle

oh baby yes
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 13, 2010, 10:36:31 PM
it's gonna be so fun having to fight hacked ubers all the time
Ubers are no match for the TOP PERCENTAGE OF RATTATTA

...unless we wind up with a legendary that has Sand Stream.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on June 13, 2010, 11:37:55 PM
Magikarp_vs_team_of_ubers.flv
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Heartbeam on June 14, 2010, 01:01:54 AM
(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz242/AnonymousPM/HeartGold/th_P6130213.jpg) (http://s832.photobucket.com/albums/zz242/AnonymousPM/HeartGold/?action=view&current=P6130213.jpg)

It's an active case of pok?rus!  Wonderful.  Unfortunately, it was probably a cloned pok?mon because the trader in question wanted a Seadra.  Probably includes the ball as well.  Some other trade I picked up a Delibird captured in a master ball and, yeah.

Got tired of looking for a reasonable request for Salamence, so I put up a Garchomp and it comes just like that!  I didn't know it would increase the number of available trainers up to seven in a given search, which was wonderful as well.

Disappointed to receive a max revive for first prize in the drawing after picking up an exp. share for second place.  I guess it would be more useful than a bunch of exp. shares, but it doesn't sit right.

I would link to the original trading post, but editing is no longer possible so it gets moved here.


Request

-Lake trio (Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf)

-Glaceon

-Leafeon

-Qualot Berry
-Tamato Berry

I'm looking for borrow an Arceus to trigger the Sinjoh Ruins event.  Unfortunately, I doubt there's anything I have capable of serving as collateral so it'll have to come down to trust (but of course you can suggest something like Kyogre, because I'm not giving it up otherwise).

There must be some personal pok?dex out there for you to create a list for others to refer to.  Here goes:

#151 (Mew)
#155 - 157 (Cyndaquil / Quilava / Typhlosion)
#251 (Celebi)
#255 - 257 (Torchic / Combusken / Blaziken)
#258 - 260 (Mudkip / Marshtomp / Swampert)
#318 - 319 (Carvanha / Sharpedo)
#320 - 321 (Wailmer / Wailord)
#328 - 330 (Trapinch / Vibrava / Flygon)
#331 - 332 Cacnea / Cacturne
#338 (Solrock)
#345 - 346 (Lileep / Cradily)
#351 (Castform)
#352 (Kecleon)
#357 (Tropius)
#377 (Regirock)
#378 (Regice)
#379 (Registeel)
#383 (Groudon)
#384 (Rayquaza)
#385 (Jirachi)
#386 (Deoxys)
#387 - 389 (Turtwig / Grotle / Torterra)
#390 - 392 (Chimchar / Monferno / Infernape)
#410 - 411 (Shieldon / Bastiodon)
#422 - 423 (Shellos / Gastrodon)
#431 - 432 (Glameow / Purugly)
#434 - 435 (Stunky / Skunktank)
#449 - 450 (Hippopotas / Hippowdon)
#456 - 457 (Finneon / Lumineon)
#470 (Leafeon)
#471 (Glaceon)
#476 (Probopass)
#479 (Rotom)
#480 (Uxie)
#481 (Mesprit)
#482 (Azelf)
#483 (Dialga)
#484 (Palkia)
#485 (Heatran)
#486 (Regigigas)
#487 (Giratina)
#488 (Cresselia)
#489 (Phione)
#490 (Manaphy)
#491 (Darkrai)
#492 (Shaymin)
#492 (Arceus)

Sharing the pok?mon so it'll appear in the GTS is also appreciated.


Offers

If they're not listed under requests then they're available except for Kyogre, which will only be given out, not traded, if the player requests it (yeah, right) for collateral with the special Arceus request.

-Six female Eevee available (Bold, Careful, Naughty, Relaxed, Serious)

-Shiny Golem (Japanese...well, before it evolved)
-Shiny Gyarados
-Shiny Poliwrath (French)

The following Legendaries are untouched:

And for the ones that aren't:
*Received in a trade.

-Pok?rus (obviously), but it should come with all traded pok?mon unless requested otherwise.

-Every evolutionary stone.
-Every evolution-inducing held item except for the Razor Fang and Razor Claw.
-Every incense (probably doesn't matter).
-Plenty of lucky eggs.
-Master Ball (as if anyone would want it).
-Various held enhancing items if you will ask for them.


PMs appreciated, if just to ask for specific stats or the ball the pokemon was captured in.

Friend code: 0260 3227 3424


Saying it again!  Yanmega's Pt/HG/SS sprite reminds me of a mutalisk.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 16, 2010, 07:54:54 PM
Managed to get a shiny Porygon2 over the GTS in exchange for a Rotom. It's Modest, it'll get Adaptability if I evolve it, I'm turning this baby into a Choice Specs sweeper.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Arcengal on June 16, 2010, 10:11:44 PM
Hi my strongest physical electric move has only 65 power.
Luxray actually sucked when I used him so I hate him.

I love my Luxray. I even used him against the 8th Gym Leader's Luxray rather than throw out my Graveller because I was sure my guy would win (he didn't, GL got a critical).
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on June 19, 2010, 02:38:47 AM
Heart Gold. I'm just before going out to the Elite 4, I haven't managed to beat the Kimono Girls yet either. My team is rapidly changing because it wasn't performing as well as I wanted it to. I'm really annoyed at how many Pokemon that I want aren't available until National Dex. *sigh* Anyways, once I catch the rest of my new team, it's training time so I can get to the Elite 4.

Any opinions on this team?

Feraligatr (Water)
Jolteon (Electric)
Crobat (Flying/Poison)
Ambipom (Normal)
Forretress (Bug/Steel)
Gliscor (Ground/Flying)

I'm up for replacing that Gliscor if anybody knows of a better choice to round out the team.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Lord Scalgon on June 19, 2010, 02:56:39 AM
I'm considering discarding 3 shiny Milotics (all cloned legits)...so if anyone wants a free shiny Milotic, let me know.  In case anyone is curious about the info, well here it is:

Level: 5
EV's: None
IV's (HP/Atk/Def/Sp.Atk/Sp.Def/Spe): 31/30/31/31/31/27

Mirror Coat
Ice Beam
Surf
Toxic

Other notes: 100% legit, RNG abused, has Mirror Coat as egg move

Why am I discarding it?  I only bred to obtain a shiny Feebas w/ HP electric, in which I ragequitted after so many attempts as of last year.  Returned to breeding, and thus I succeeded.  However, this Milotic above doesn't have HP electric.

(If I don't respond in time, PM me.)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Drake on June 19, 2010, 02:59:49 AM
>ambipom

well you're pretty much good
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on June 19, 2010, 03:03:44 AM
Wait, how'd you get Gliscor before the National Dex? Did you trade a Razor Fang from another version?

That slight confusion aside, it's a fairly solid team, although if you want to replace something, I'd put an Arcanine or another Fire-type on.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on June 19, 2010, 05:12:18 AM
I don't have a Gliscor, I was just sputing out planned team info, so it's unevolved right now. I actually forgot that I couldn't get the required item yet so maybe I'll trade him in for a fire type of some sort. Thanks for the advice on that one, I just wish I wasn't off limits from so many pokemon without the National Dex. I want my Bronzong and Flygor. =(
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on June 24, 2010, 01:58:28 PM
Did anyone happen to miss the Jirachi GameStop event?

You're in luck. (http://www.serebii.net/games/currentevents.shtml#america)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Nine West on June 28, 2010, 08:32:58 PM
Quote
In addition to ?Fight,? ?Run,? and ?Pokemon,? there is a new menu option called ?Shooter.? We don?t know what this is yet (do we get guns now? :D). (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/new-pokemon-revealed-on-oha-suta)

also, triple battles ahaha
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on June 28, 2010, 10:40:27 PM
also, triple battles ahaha
Isn't that just where items used to be? So uh new items I guess?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Polaris on July 02, 2010, 03:45:30 AM
Oh boy, the next season of the anime is set to begin... (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Anime_season_title_revealed)

What is with that girl's hairstyle.

also Mijumaru evolution <33333
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on July 03, 2010, 06:36:26 AM
Help why cant i stop using the GTS for silly things like 3 red gyarados?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Drake on July 03, 2010, 06:44:08 AM
Help why cant i stop using the PSP for silly things like posting on MoTK?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Prody on July 18, 2010, 03:15:06 PM
Salamence voted Uber. And he was so easy to deal with because of stealth rock and 4x weak to ice too...
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on July 18, 2010, 05:35:50 PM
Interesting but then again i'm staying away from the competitive pokemon stuff until Black and White come out so it doesn't effect me much.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on July 18, 2010, 05:48:37 PM
I blame Outrage.

Man that move is OP :/
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fluffy Rocket Tails on July 19, 2010, 06:59:38 AM
I missed the Jirachi event AGAIN. 
Oh well, it's not like I'd have used it anyway, and all it did was unlock a Pok?walker course.

Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on July 19, 2010, 08:19:34 AM
I blame Outrage.

Man that move is OP :/

It only became OP once it became Physical.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on July 22, 2010, 11:08:43 AM
Quote from: Pokebeach
there is a new menu option called ?Shooter.?
Hell yes! What kind of "Shooter" are we talking about?!
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: theshirn on July 22, 2010, 01:38:17 PM
Hell yes! What kind of "Shooter" are we talking about?!
Black Rock
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on July 22, 2010, 01:59:01 PM
See: Mamanboo (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml)

Luvdisc evolution? :o

Also fuck yes, new psychic types <3333
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on July 22, 2010, 03:16:03 PM
New Magic Guard user? New Motor Drive user? New Mold Breaker user? I love this generation already.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on July 22, 2010, 06:51:07 PM
I like the eagle looks like he would be fun in game.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on July 26, 2010, 03:39:28 PM
Pok?mon Crystal Engrish Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtsZE3Jy0R8)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Edible on July 26, 2010, 03:43:22 PM
jizg receive drug
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on July 26, 2010, 03:52:43 PM
Pok?mon Crystal Engrish Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtsZE3Jy0R8)
That reminds me: Has somebody ever posted AllieRX87's Bootleg Shit of several pirated Pokemon games?

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUr771FdZY&feature=related)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv7QYU2N-Sw&feature=related)
Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cb9tVWIfkk&feature=related)
Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqUFAnB2t7M)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on July 26, 2010, 08:25:05 PM
Pok?mon Crystal Engrish Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtsZE3Jy0R8)

4:18 of video. :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on July 28, 2010, 02:37:40 AM
Yeah so, I got the idea to pick a game and do a giant series of challenges involving using a Pokemon team comprised of only one type (dual types allowed). Basically think Gym Leaders. Garlyle mentioned that Fire Red Omega (some rom hack involving all Pokemon?) would be best to do this with and I'll probably make Water my first run.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on July 28, 2010, 02:41:23 AM
Pokepowa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2zBRt-VRvU)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Polaris on July 31, 2010, 11:19:24 PM
New season of the Pok?mon anime.

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4396/800pxpokesunaugust1104.th.png) (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/800pxpokesunaugust1104.png/)

Say hello to Reimu. :V
(Yeah his name is totally Reimu)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 01, 2010, 12:39:58 AM
Wait what?

Anyways I need to get a new team on my DS cards sometime.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Polaris on August 01, 2010, 04:17:16 AM
Oh pff, turns out his name isn't Reimu at all; it's Dento. :V

But yeah, there's a new season of the Pok?mon anime based around Pok?mon Black & White that's about to start once they finish up the DP series.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on August 01, 2010, 05:21:14 AM
Yeah so, I got the idea to pick a game and do a giant series of challenges involving using a Pokemon team comprised of only one type (dual types allowed). Basically think Gym Leaders. Garlyle mentioned that Fire Red Omega (some rom hack involving all Pokemon?) would be best to do this with and I'll probably make Water my first run.

Mono-type challenges are as old as the internet, but.

Good luck anyway
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on August 01, 2010, 05:56:19 AM
Yeah well I don't play Pokemon that often, so mono-type is new to me.  :V

Also haven't even started this yet because I can't get the Firered rom to cooperate with save type issues.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on August 01, 2010, 05:58:31 AM
Yeah well I don't play Pokemon that often, so mono-type is new to me.  :V

Also haven't even started this yet because I can't get the Firered rom to cooperate with save type issues.

Flash 128k plz
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on August 01, 2010, 06:00:15 AM
Yes of course, that's the first fix I found out. Sadly the most obvious fixes never seem to work for me since I'm still having issues.  :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on August 01, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
So if you aren't aware yet, new Mystery Gift is the Enigma Stone, which allows you to catch a special Latios/Latias.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 01, 2010, 05:25:06 PM
I wish I could use Wi-Fi and get that. I could use another Latios to teach Dragon Dance and no Physical Moves.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fluffy Rocket Tails on August 02, 2010, 04:59:51 AM
I really need to finish Soul Silver, I stopped months ago before I even got to Ecruteak because I got sick of having to train my new Pokemon up for this ridiculously specific party that probably isn't even that great anyway, and I still can't decide what should go in the 6th spot. 
I want that Latias but I'm no where near getting the National Dex.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on August 02, 2010, 05:02:34 AM
I want that Latias but I'm no where near getting the National Dex.
Well, as long as you have the Enigma Stone from Mystery Gift, you can take as long as you need to catch it.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on August 02, 2010, 11:34:17 AM
Pokemon Black and White version incoming in Japan in a few weeks.

I'm probably gonna pick it up.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 02, 2010, 03:54:23 PM
Excellent I hope Smogon/Hackers can crack the Rom quickly and get translations so I can beging to theorymon.

And I hope that Eagle doesn't end up in the same boat as the other normal flyers besides Staraptor.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on August 03, 2010, 12:56:06 AM
Excellent I hope Smogon/Hackers can crack the Rom quickly and get translations so I can beging to theorymon.

And I hope that Eagle doesn't end up in the same boat as the other normal flyers besides Staraptor.

I could do translations if you really want >_>
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 03, 2010, 02:11:00 AM
Nah Smogon will likely have stuff soon after it's release. Besides I mainly want new move descriptions for the most part.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 20, 2010, 10:23:04 PM
hopefully this isn't a bad necro because it's already a topic series
lol, "hax clause"
Quote
Sceptile used Energy Ball.
It's not very effective...
Toxicroak lost 37% of its health.
Chloroform's Toxicroak fainted.
The battle has ended.
Analyzing battle data for luck factors...
Chloroform wins!
EeveeTrainer: WTF
EeveeTrainer: OMG
Chloroform: XD

also thought about getting a DS just to join the fun...and I should be able to get B/W at launch. Do it y/n

And is Tropius any good? :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on August 21, 2010, 12:48:47 AM
hopefully this isn't a bad necro because it's already a topic series
Ha ha, old chap!, "hax clause"
also thought about getting a DS just to join the fun...and I should be able to get B/W at launch. Do it y/n
:teaspit:

And is Tropius any good? :V
Nope :smug:
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 21, 2010, 12:56:36 AM
I'll use him anyways because IT'S A MOTHERFUCKING TROPIUS and fuck metagame and OU and whatnot

anyways how does wifi battling work
do most people get legit pokes or they just shark what they want? I'm really behind the last gen :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on August 21, 2010, 01:31:48 AM
anyways how does wifi battling work
If you want to battle someone over wifi you'll need to trade friend codes and add each other to your respective Pal Pads. The wifi center ingame is the lower floor in any poke center. In there you'll see whoever else is registered in your pal pad if they're online, and you can either trade or battle with them.

do most people get legit pokes or they just shark what they want? I'm really behind the last gen :V
Most pople use legits but there's really nothing stopping anyone from using lv 100 Slaking with pure power or w/e
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 21, 2010, 02:02:56 AM
by legit I obviously meant sharked but legit pokemons because people cba to train and there are no differences, not Wondertombs and truantless Slakings :V

atleast my lack of nerdy irl friends won't screw me out of Steelixes and whatnot this time

EDIT: more questions

Do really so many people go by the smogon tiers? Checked some wifi battles on youtube, no Garchomps at all.
And does everyone breed for perfect and shit, or 99% of the wifi videos are by competitive players?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tsubame on August 22, 2010, 10:08:54 PM
Well, the guys at Smogon tend to test everything before making any changes on tiers. Tests that usually take some months IIRC.

It would make sense for most people playing competitively to have them as their first source to check what to play, and what not to.

About breeding for perfect, I'm not so sure. It does take a lot of time, but since we now have Internet, and a way to clone Pok?mon... It's easier to get that near-perfect IV baby if many people try at once as a team, then clone the result and distribute.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 22, 2010, 10:24:02 PM
Yeah, but how many people actually make their teams competitive?

I don't really like Smogon because it affects almost every player...and the fact that way too many people just get everything off there instead of being original. And people which bitch about DT in friendly battles and stuff.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tsubame on August 22, 2010, 10:49:13 PM
Yeah, but how many people actually make their teams competitive?

You have a point there.

Overall, I think you can do good without breeding for near-perfect IVs. Of course, you should still pick the ones with higher IVs whenever possible.

Aaand, I think most people are stuck with Smogon-like tiers. Evasion depends on luck, and while it is a valid strategy... A lot of people also get upset because they usually don't want to include 100% accuracy moves, or Rain Dance + Thunder (Speaking of which, I still want to see a Thunder bypassing Protect in the rain), etc.. In fact, evasion was one of the main reasons Smogon wanted to ban Garchomp from OU. Everyone would complain how their "counters" would miss one attack, then get KOed by Garchomp, then everything went to hell.

Your best bet would be to ask whoever you're battling if he/she is OK with DT before the battle...
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on August 22, 2010, 11:00:08 PM
Yeah, but how many people actually make their teams competitive?
I don't breed for IVs, and I use Pok?mon I think I can make work regardless of tier. I'm especially fond of trying to run unconventional Pok?mon like Lanturn and Bibarel.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Spidere on August 23, 2010, 02:48:03 AM
Bah, fallen back into this game. Can be rather hellish working out the kinks of a team...

I don't breed for IVs, and I use Pok?mon I think I can make work regardless of tier. I'm especially fond of trying to run unconventional Pok?mon like Lanturn and Bibarel.

Making a "crappy" Pokemon great makes you into a badass. No exceptions. :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 23, 2010, 03:41:02 PM
I'll use him anyways because IT'S A MOTHERFUCKING TROPIUS and fuck metagame and OU and whatnot

It does get Dragon Dance and is one of the pokemon that should be awesome but aren't.

Also Lanturn isn't that Unconventional it just needs to be used properly.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on August 23, 2010, 03:46:46 PM
Also Lanturn isn't that Unconventional it just needs to be used properly.
It's really great on the defensive, as it resists the most common special attacks and can inflict paralysis or confusion.

Bibarel I want to use because Simple makes it seem promising to Baton Pass to.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Prody on August 24, 2010, 03:04:12 AM
All UU pokemon are okay and can be used. It's the OU pokemon that are better and game-breaking. For instance, Choice Scarf Tyranitar.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on August 24, 2010, 03:42:04 AM
Still haven't bothered to try and fix my stupid emulator issue (still get the signs of saving issues despite changing my settings to the correct savetype) but I think I came up with a Monotype Ice team that I reallly like. Opinions?

Abomasnow
Glaceon
Regice
Froslass
Walrein
Mamoswine
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 24, 2010, 11:24:45 AM
All UU pokemon are okay and can be used. It's the OU pokemon that are better and game-breaking. For instance, Choice Scarf Tyranitar.
copypasted smogon scizors
everywhere
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: CK Crash on August 24, 2010, 01:47:29 PM
Still haven't bothered to try and fix my stupid emulator issue (still get the signs of saving issues despite changing my settings to the correct savetype) but I think I came up with a Monotype Ice team that I reallly like. Opinions?

Abomasnow
Glaceon
Regice
Froslass
Walrein
Mamoswine
Regice isn't that great despite being a legendary, because it's good defenses are a mismatch for it's poor defensive typing. You may want to consider Weavile as a revenge killer or choice bander instead. I'd want to know what movesets you're planning before i judge any further though :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 24, 2010, 02:52:16 PM
Articuno is likely a better defensive Ice type if you can stop Stealth Rock but if it's for in-game only it looks fine.

Also Smogon does a very good job on exploring most pokemon thoroughly but most of the sets they make are bog standard.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 24, 2010, 02:59:54 PM
Lapras is pro man
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 24, 2010, 03:07:26 PM
Only in RBY :V

Still tons of lower tier pokemon have lots of promise it's just the smogon sets are generally more consistent despite beeing wasily predicted.

This makes odd things like Choice Scarfed Gyarados or Lower tier Pokemon hilarious in Standard against people who don't know what to do.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 24, 2010, 03:18:47 PM
How well would a focus sash scyther do? :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 24, 2010, 04:24:43 PM
I could sweep Sana's team with one :V

In all seriousness it might have some value as a revenge killer but (insert Smogon Scizor here) could do most of what it does better. Still has promise though.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 24, 2010, 04:48:04 PM
yeah they usually have a life orb

What about a Fire Fang Steelix? Should counter Scizors nicely...a Steelix should be able to take a non STAB Superpower, right?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on August 24, 2010, 05:00:51 PM
yeah they usually have a life orb

What about a Fire Fang Steelix? Should counter Scizors nicely...a Steelix should be able to take a non STAB Superpower, right?
It depends on whether Scizor's able to Swords Dance first.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 24, 2010, 05:02:46 PM
yeah they usually have a life orb

What about a Fire Fang Steelix? Should counter Scizors nicely...a Steelix should be able to take a non STAB Superpower, right?

You should clearly be asking if Steelix can take a CB Bullet Punch instead :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 24, 2010, 05:06:45 PM
You should clearly be asking if Steelix can take a CB Bullet Punch instead :V
if he has CB, he most likely won't get atk boosts
is a CB bullet punch that damaging even when NVE and vs 200 def?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on August 24, 2010, 05:22:42 PM
I feel like the I'm the only one here who has nothing to do with competitive battling...

On topic though, currently training a Flareon.  After this reaches Level 100, I'll finally have all of the Eevee evolutions at Level 100.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 24, 2010, 05:27:12 PM
I remember Flareon being a bit underwhelming thanks to the fire type-physical attacker stuff...are there any good physical fire moves now? :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 24, 2010, 05:30:17 PM
I remember Flareon being a bit underwhelming thanks to the fire type-physical attacker stuff...are there any good physical fire moves now? :V

Only ones Flareon doesn't learn like Fire Punch, Blaze Kick (debateable), Flare Blitz and lol Sacred Fire.  :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on August 24, 2010, 05:51:45 PM
I remember Flareon being a bit underwhelming thanks to the fire type-physical attacker stuff...are there any good physical fire moves now? :V
I don't know.  The only physical fire move I actually had it learn was Fire Fang because I don't do the whole "breeding for moves" thing.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on August 24, 2010, 06:10:21 PM
I don't know.  The only physical fire move I actually had it learn was Fire Fang because I don't do the whole "breeding for moves" thing.

Thats the only one it gets and it's not very good.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on August 24, 2010, 07:50:41 PM
Didn't realize that Regice was a legendary since I was just looking at ALL 22 ICE POKEMON and picking from that list. Seriously, with all the pokemon in existence how the crap is there only 22 Ice types. It's sickening and depressing.  :colonveeplusalpha:

On another note, I guess Weavile would be pretty good to have. I wouldn't mind Lapras but then I'd have two water types in there and blah. This is purely for main-game stuff, not competitive or anything... so really I don't care about movesets enough to plan them.  :V

So final team is:

Abomasnow
Glaceon
Weavile
Froslass
Walrein
Mamoswine

...Seems pretty good to me. I actually get an okay type spread here too with Grass, Dark, Ghost, Water, and Ground mixed in. My only concerns are how terrible of a defensive type Ice is. Glass cannons ahoy?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on August 24, 2010, 08:06:58 PM
Thats the only one it gets and it's not very good.
I know, but I'm fine as long as its semi-useful to me.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Spidere on August 25, 2010, 10:26:03 PM
Abomasnow
Glaceon
Weavile
Froslass
Walrein
Mamoswine

...Seems pretty good to me. I actually get an okay type spread here too with Grass, Dark, Ghost, Water, and Ground mixed in. My only concerns are how terrible of a defensive type Ice is. Glass cannons ahoy?

You are my mono-Grass teams weakness.

Shit.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fluffy Rocket Tails on August 26, 2010, 05:36:11 AM
I might try one of these mono-type challenges too.
It would have to be in Platinum.
I'd like to do steel in Platinum, would this be a poor choice?
I can trade from basically any of the GBA games, Soul Silver and Diamond, but i refuse to use most legendaries.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on August 26, 2010, 04:08:33 PM
Any mono-type team can be a "poor choice" since there's going to be a handful of gyms that are just made to rape you, so don't really put too much thought into if a certain type will be good or not. I picked Ice simply because it's my favorite element in most games. In Pokemon it's a pretty bad typing but who cares.

That said, Steel is a fantastic defensive typing so most things will have a hard time getting through your pokemon and I can see it being a fun one to do.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on August 26, 2010, 04:16:48 PM
Well, Platinum would be slightly easier than any of the other DS games to do Steel in partly because you can get Magnezone without a National Dex/trading.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on August 26, 2010, 04:21:38 PM
when I was 10, Steelix was the shit

I remember fighting Jasmine with a Typhlosion, not knowing he's weak to fire and using Dig like 20 times :V

ever since, I wanted a fucking Steelix
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: CK Crash on August 27, 2010, 12:02:36 AM
when I was 10, Steelix was the shit

I remember fighting Jasmine with a Typhlosion, not knowing he's weak to fire and using Dig like 20 times :V

ever since, I wanted a fucking Steelix
Reminds me of when I beat Brock in Red with my Metapod. Hardened 'bout 40 times, then struggled them bitches  :smug:
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fluffy Rocket Tails on August 27, 2010, 03:19:15 AM
I didn't know for a while that you had to trade an Onix holding a Metal Coat to make it evolve into Steelix.  For some reason I thought it would happen through leveling up, so I would train Onix until they were in their 40s or 50s before I would get sick of nothing happening and get rid of them.

Ok, so steel in Platinum it is.
So far a rough idea for a team might be:
Empoleon
Metagross
Aggron/Steelix
Magnezone
Skarmory
Scizor/Lucario

This isn't final and since I haven't started yet it's open to changes, though the Metagross stays.  I'm open to suggestions, especially since this is my first time doing something like this.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Prody on August 27, 2010, 05:17:40 AM
Heatran over Aggron/Steelix and Lucario over Skamory.

Heatran is overpowered and can make things easy for you and Skamory is for stall teams. Judging from the presence of Scizor, I'm guessing it isn't a stall team.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fluffy Rocket Tails on August 28, 2010, 08:05:45 AM
Thank you, but I have somewhat of a problem with Heatran .  The only one I could get is the one in my copy of Diamond, which comes at level 70.  I'd have to trade him over, and being level 70 he wouldn't behave and he'd be somewhat annoying and useless until quite far into the game, by which point I'd be practically done.
The only reason I mentioned Skarmory is because it's steel and can learn Fly (I have a good friend, his name is move deleter.)  So I'll just get rid of it if that will make the team better.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on September 10, 2010, 05:10:01 AM
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/WOBBLERBOBLER/th_PokemonRuby-Sapphire.png) (http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/WOBBLERBOBLER/?action=view&current=PokemonRuby-Sapphire.png)
Back in the day, when Pokemon was good...
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 10, 2010, 01:05:02 PM
That picture makes R/S look far more enjoyable than it really is...
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on September 10, 2010, 09:05:30 PM
So.  According to Serebii, about the last 13 Pokemon in the Isshu Dex are legendaries.
 

If this is confirmed, then what were they thinking?

Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Nine West on September 11, 2010, 12:06:11 AM
So.  According to Serebii, about the last twenty Pokemon in the Isshu Dex are legendaries.
 

If this is confirmed, then what were they thinking?

Eh, I only see 12, to be exact (13, counting Victini). This is a step down from DP's 14 legendaries. :V

Pokebeach has more detailed information about that, by the way. This generation's pseudo-legendary powerhouse is a three-headed Dark/Dragon. Also, Dragon/Ice legendary can be POKEMON GRAY material.

Yay New York region.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on September 11, 2010, 01:04:10 AM
Eh, I only see 12, to be exact (13, counting Victini). This is a step down from DP's 14 legendaries. :V

Pokebeach has more detailed information about that, by the way. This generation's pseudo-legendary powerhouse is a three-headed Dark/Dragon. Also, Dragon/Ice legendary can be POKEMON GRAY material.

Yay New York region.
Yeah.  I probably should've counted them first.  :derp:

I DO however approve of the legendary that will be the first Pokemon (excluding Arceus) to become a pure Flying-type.  :3
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: CK Crash on September 16, 2010, 05:51:41 PM
So like, 3 or 4 new Pokemon are getting leaked every hour. Lots of awesome ones, a couple derpy ones. Seems better than most of 4th gen though.
jellybaby is still the best, life orb + trick room fuck yeah
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Myschi on September 16, 2010, 09:00:50 PM
Anyone else think that
633/634 look like The Beatles...? Also, hell yes to a ghost-candle and the icecream that looks like he wants my blood... (Baniricchi and half of his evolution).
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on September 16, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Anyone else think that
633/634 look like The Beatles...? Also, hell yes to a ghost-candle and the icecream that looks like he wants my blood... (Baniricchi and half of his evolution).
Yeah.  I'm diggin' the
chandelier guy that comes from the ghost candle Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 16, 2010, 10:22:26 PM
I'm actually amazed some of these actually seem as good as the 3rd gen pokemon that where tolerable.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Myschi on September 16, 2010, 10:36:29 PM
I hafta say, this makes up for third/forth gen so far.

Also, holy crap
mecha bug with awesome stats!
Are they finally getting what they deserve? (Ya know, like some decent pokemon. :| )
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 17, 2010, 12:06:02 AM
Scizor says hi

Also Some of the more influential people on smogon are favoring a no bans attitiude for the start of 5th gen.

Also the Rock/Flying archaeopteryx looks very interesting.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Myschi on September 17, 2010, 12:17:30 AM
Eh, Scizor's just a bug with a metal shell, this dude's a freakin'
mecha.

And I'm not terribly 'in' to the tourney/competitive scene, is that unusual?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 17, 2010, 12:22:34 AM
Eh, Scizor's just a bug with a metal shell, this dude's a freakin'
mecha.

And I'm not terribly 'in' to the tourney/competitive scene, is that unusual?
They started the first 5 gens more or less with a pre existing ban although in RBY it was warranted GSC it can be debated less so in RSE and there due to tradition basicly in 4
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 17, 2010, 05:13:56 PM
So yeah Smogon's gotten those roms cracked and the tables out Gamefreak has trolled comptetitive pokemon to the extreme.

EDIT: Okay this is going to be overly ridiculous from the start if the "Dream World" abilities are correct. Blaziken will go from Meh to lol thanks to Speed Boost
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on September 20, 2010, 08:36:41 AM
Anyone who denys 5th gen being the best gen ever is only deluding themselves.

(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/497.png)(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/563.png)(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/584.png)
(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/625.png)(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/628.png)(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/635.png)

My team for Isshu. COME AT ME BRO.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 20, 2010, 09:16:21 AM
I have Pokemon White now! But I just started.

It's very pretty! :]
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 20, 2010, 11:54:32 AM
I'm actually planning on picking up Black myself because I need a Reshiram for my Groudon and Ho-oh. I still havent found out if Wargle is a version exclusive yet.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: COPIRIGHTO on September 20, 2010, 02:05:09 PM
Pokemon black came in. I'm now on my 6th badge and heading towards my 7th. Team currently looks like this:
Emboar lv.38
gamgeroge lv. 38
Warubiru lv. 38
That zebra thing lv 38
giant yorkshire terrier lv 38
-hm slave

Can't find Wargle yet.

Also everything is a freaking tank in this game
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 20, 2010, 02:34:43 PM
Quote
I still havent found out if Wargle is a version exclusive yet.
Wargle is the Eagle, right?  I'm 99% certain it's a Black exclusive (The other 1% is that I've totally mucked up the charts in my head and it's White - White has the Vulture-looking bird as an exclusive)

Protip from experience:
At least for the first three gyms, you can always find a pokemon capable of massively assisting against a gym leader by progressing a little past the gym then coming back.  Advantangeous Monkey is given by an NPC in the lot near the first gym, there are fighting types and Rock Smash TM on the route after the second gym, and you can find the fire-type Daruma in the desert right following the third gym
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on September 20, 2010, 09:33:55 PM
I feel lonely now since I'm waiting for the Spring release.  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 21, 2010, 12:13:00 AM
I've actually not played the game myself i'm just reading up on what has been learned about it so far.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on September 21, 2010, 12:18:19 AM
I've actually not played the game myself i'm just reading up on what has been learned about it so far.
That's basically my situation, although from what you said, you'll probably get it months before me.  :3
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fluffy Rocket Tails on September 21, 2010, 12:22:58 AM
I feel lonely now since I'm waiting for the Spring release.  :ohdear:
I'm waiting too.
A friend of mine is importing White (that's the one with Zekrom right?  He said he didn't like Reshiram, it was too fluffy or something.)  So I can just find out how it is from him, like I did for HG/SS.

I'm making a point of avoiding information about these games as much as possible though so I can go into them fresh, with no expectations, like I did for Ruby and Sapphire back when they were first released.  I made a mistake with Generation IV by waiting years before deciding to buy the games so everything was spoiled and less enjoyable than it could have been.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on September 21, 2010, 12:47:28 AM
I'm waiting too.
A friend of mine is importing White (that's the one with Zekrom right?  He said he didn't like Reshiram, it was too fluffy or something.)  So I can just find out how it is from him, like I did for HG/SS.

I'm making a point of avoiding information about these games as much as possible though so I can go into them fresh, with no expectations, like I did for Ruby and Sapphire back when they were first released.  I made a mistake with Generation IV by waiting years before deciding to buy the games so everything was spoiled and less enjoyable than it could have been.
I'm reading the info just because I wanna see what other features the games have.  Also, thats more or less why I'm getting White as well.  :3
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Nine West on September 21, 2010, 01:09:45 AM
Whew, now that things have died down a bit, I can safely say that I'm more hyped about the story and characters rather than the Pokemon themselves. =P Having said that, those Dream World abilities are certainly... interesting, and the music is fabulous (especially the Gym Leader themes <3). I'll just wait for the NA release, though. No rush.

In the meantime, I'm impatiently waiting for more Sugimori art.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fluffy Rocket Tails on September 21, 2010, 01:18:18 AM
I'm reading the info just because I wanna see what other features the games have.  Also, thats more or less why I'm getting White as well.  :3

I'm looking at things like how triple battles work and new features and what the setting and music are like, but I'm avoiding looking too much into the new pokes, outside of what they are and what they look like.  I don't want to make the mistake of playing the first time with a party already picked out like I did with Diamond, which made things less fun because it made me feel unable to try out whoever I wanted. 

I like Reshiram actually, I didn't at first, but it and it's white fluffiness grew on me.  I'm having a hard time deciding which version of the game to get. But I don't like Pokabu's evolutions at all (I'm sorry if anyone does, but I really don't.)  I'm probably picking Mijumaru.
It'll be exciting to see the names for the new Pok?mon in other languages.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on September 21, 2010, 01:55:44 AM
I like Mijumaru, I like  his 2nd stage, but his 3rd stage is out of fucking nowhere and looks ugly as sin. I am so disappoint that I picked Pokabu for my starter. I never, NEVER, pick the fire starter.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fluffy Rocket Tails on September 21, 2010, 03:06:43 AM
I actually like Mijumaru's 3rd stage, and Tsutarja is the first grass starter in a while that I would actually consider picking (I think since Bulbasaur).  I don't like grass types very much at all actually. I usually pick fire for my starter, but I can't bring myself to because of that stupid wrestling...thing. And how many Pok?mon with that type combination does the game need?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: lumber_of_the_beast on September 21, 2010, 03:31:16 PM
Finally got around to beating the E4 and Champion in Heart Gold. :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Drake on September 21, 2010, 04:06:23 PM
I wouldn't necessarily agree that Daikeneki looks bad, but seriously its moveset is pretty delicious stuff. I'll probably be choosing him.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on September 21, 2010, 10:23:35 PM
I always pick the water starter so Imma goin' for Mijimaru.

Also, I will rage if I hear ANY music from the game before I get it.  One of the best parts about playing a new Pokemon game is plugging my headphones into the DS and listening to the music.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on September 21, 2010, 10:52:52 PM
Y'know, I was gonna pick the water starter out of sympathy for the poor guy, but after seeing the grass form's final form, I'ma goin' for Smugleaf :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 22, 2010, 01:41:35 AM
Y'know, I was gonna pick the water starter out of sympathy for the poor guy, but after seeing the grass form's final form, I'ma goin' for Smugleaf :V
I picked the water starter because of the whole "we wear blue" comic which was adorable as hell.

Also I am never, ever evolving it.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Myschi on September 22, 2010, 05:51:24 PM
Also I am never, ever evolving it.

Smart man. Going with Smugleaf here. Emboar's got that flame beard description going on, though... and I do love me some epic beards.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 22, 2010, 09:50:21 PM
I'm likely to just dump the starter because there are simply more interesting pokemon to choose from.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Drake on September 22, 2010, 10:43:45 PM
like togepi
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 22, 2010, 11:20:27 PM
like togepi
too bad there's no 1st-4th gen Pokemon until after the National Dex.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on September 22, 2010, 11:25:14 PM
I'm okay with the team I have at the moment, but I'm only just finished with the first gym so it will definitely change in the future.

I really enjoy purple slut kitty right now, her Assist move is a pretty cool move as metronome that only pulls from your teams moves. I could see it pulling some bullshit in matches if you're lucky.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on September 22, 2010, 11:27:03 PM
Assist was Gen III. :x

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/764/59308945.png)

Eh, better then Gen IV.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 22, 2010, 11:37:37 PM
I think I mentioned that I chose Smugleaf.

If I didn't, I just mentioned it now.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 22, 2010, 11:46:21 PM
Purple slut kitty is something I wanted to use but have been trouble using, because it just doesn't pack any of the punch I'd like it to.
Also despite being a Dark-type, the other two vendor trash Pokemon you encounter early in the game will learn a dark-type move (Bite) earlier than it.
Fffff.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: CK Crash on September 22, 2010, 11:48:39 PM
I'm probably getting the fire or water type depending on what my siblings choose, mostly because I want the dream world ability for Smugleaf, and the starter one would go unused.

Team's probably gonna look like this:

Rankurusu (Trick room sweeper)
Doreida (Sunny day support)
Zuruzukin (Bulk up)
Goruggo (Physical attacker)
Burunkeru (Tank/Status)
Emboar (Reckless attacker)

Then after main game, I'll make dark, ghost, and psychic themed teams :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on September 22, 2010, 11:57:40 PM
I think purple slut kitty was thrown in there early more for the defensive typing purposes than the attacks, considering two other pokemon get a dark attack before her. She's the only dark type around for a long while it seems.

I've rather enjoyed the early game trash this game though. I'm especially fond of Advantageous Monkey (Water). Yes, thanks to Garlyle I'm calling the monkey trio that forever. I definitely loved how the battle music amped up when the first gym leader brought out his Advantageous Monkey.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: CK Crash on September 23, 2010, 12:37:11 AM
The leopard gets Mischevious Heart as an ability. This means always getting to use Taunt and other status moves first. It's actually pretty awesome for support and all that.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on September 24, 2010, 02:17:04 AM
O-kay! playing through LeafGreen to reorient myself with the series. Is it just me, or is Parasect kinda... broken...? I'm having trouble trying to keep it from overshadowing my other two current Pokemon because of how fast it levels up...
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 24, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
Nah he levels quicker but he has poor moves and lower stats than most so in the end he'll likely be weaker unless you signifigantly overlevel him.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 24, 2010, 01:15:43 PM
Nah he levels quicker but he has poor moves and lower stats than most so in the end he'll likely be weaker unless you signifigantly overlevel him.

Uhhh

Parasect gets Spore and has Slash, poor moveset it does not have.

Not arguing about the stats though
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on September 24, 2010, 02:39:49 PM
Uhhh

Parasect gets Spore and has Slash, poor moveset it does not have.

Not arguing about the stats though
There's also the matter of "spontaneously combusts if a Fire-type so much as stares at it". Parasect's okay if you put False Swipe on it and use it to help catch stuff, although if you can get a Breloom it pretty much obsoletes it.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 24, 2010, 02:48:05 PM
There's also the matter of "spontaneously combusts if a Fire-type so much as stares at it". Parasect's okay if you put False Swipe on it and use it to help catch stuff, although if you can get a Breloom it pretty much obsoletes it.

>Breloom
>Leaf Green

:/

Okay, fine, you can trade, but still.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on September 24, 2010, 03:12:35 PM
TBH, I only rated Parasect based on how I felt it compared to the other grass types. It specfically counters Exeggutor at the very least. :]
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 24, 2010, 03:44:43 PM
To be honest Spore is all I really think Parasect ever had going for it. Slash is kinda meh and Spore comes late IIRC.

Also Fire Blast Tauros might be useable in 5th gen with Encourage.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on September 24, 2010, 05:56:03 PM
Speaking of Leaf Green, I remember the trade Mr. Mime being incredibly obnoxious. Not only was he in the low 80's while the rest of my team was half his level due to trade bonuses, he completely destroyed most anything that came around. Magical Leaf is a fun ninja-grass move.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Stuffman on September 24, 2010, 06:04:13 PM
Hey so like I can't find any clear information on Black and White, what new game mechanics does it have? All I've heard is that you can do 3v3 now which sounds like a clusterfuck.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 24, 2010, 10:57:18 PM
Hey so like I can't find any clear information on Black and White, what new game mechanics does it have? All I've heard is that you can do 3v3 now which sounds like a clusterfuck.
In all honesty, a lot of stuff hasn't changed.  The biggest core mechanic changes that comes to mind is
1 - EXP now scales based on level differences (Which means you spend the majority of the game being roughly the level of your opponents, and that it's really hard to overgrind for anything).
2 - TMs are now infinitely reusable

I mean there's a lot of new features like the 3v3 battles (Which are rather neat), random wi-fi battles, the whole dream world thing, c-gear, etc.; but there's very few mechanics that have changed.  Some moves have been rebalanced, old Pokemon have new abilities and stuff, etc., on top of the slew of new moves and Pokemon... but compared to the changes between generations in the past, the mechanical differences are slight.

There's just a lot of improvements beyond just the mechanics.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 24, 2010, 11:46:12 PM
I finally got Pokemon White on my DS!

...I had to do it at school but totally worth it!

...Ima start a new game :]
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Stuffman on September 25, 2010, 12:27:12 AM
In all honesty, a lot of stuff hasn't changed.  The biggest core mechanic changes that comes to mind is
1 - EXP now scales based on level differences (Which means you spend the majority of the game being roughly the level of your opponents, and that it's really hard to overgrind for anything).
2 - TMs are now infinitely reusable

So basically, as I suspected, once they added held items and abilities and fixed all the problems with RBY's original system, there wasn't any new mechanical space to explore with the current battle system. And they wouldn't dare to try anything new with the core mechanics, so they'll never do anything new with the battle system again. Fantastic.

I was getting tired of the Pokemon formula back in Gen 3. I swear, if Gen 6 doesn't break free and make a new battle system, then...then...then...I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

Did they at least do anything about the fucking HMs?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on September 25, 2010, 12:56:44 AM
Should be anime-style battlans, amirite?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on September 25, 2010, 03:02:40 AM
2 - TMs are now infinitely reusable
:o
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 25, 2010, 05:41:23 AM
Hey guys!

I'm steamrolling through the game right now, just beat the 1st gym in under 2 hours! I suspect the 2nd gym will trash me though.

0217 6493 1428
Name: リスチー

In case anyone cares!
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 25, 2010, 07:57:50 AM
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Did they at least do anything about the fucking HMs?
There's less of them than there has been in the past two generations and as far as cut/strength goes, once they take effect, it stays affected instead of resetting when you return.  I think you can also freely overwrite HM moves now too, which works nice with the whole infinite TM thing.

Either way I'm fine with them working on balancing and tweaking the current system, as opposed to completely overhauling it.  Ultimately, the mechanics have been sets of smaller changes and new features that over the course of four new generations have completely overwriten almost everything under the hood, but it's still largely the same as it was since the first one.

Besides, it seems like this game focused more on improving outside of the battle system.  The flow of the game, the amount of story, the variety of the world, the quality of the visuals, use of dynamic music, the level of challenge, etc., were all very carefully worked on and are pretty significant improvements over past entries in the series (There are people who say that there's more story in the opening cutscene when you power the game on than in any of the other main pokemon games as a whole, and they might be right honestly).

So I suppose if you're purely into Pokemon for the competitive metagame (well actually you might look in anyway because dream world abilities have kidneypunched the competitive scene completely, but anyway), you probably won't find as much significant... but if you're not the type to enter that scene it's a difference that you can definitely feel.

EDIT: Oh yeah, they did a lot of little tweaks towards making the game play much faster than before, which might not sound like much but if you've been playing Pokemon for a long time, it really feels faster.
So ultimately, it's not like a whole lot can be really qualified as "oh this mechanic changed", but rather the mechanics are packaged in a far better packaging this time.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 25, 2010, 08:18:33 AM
I have a feeling they completely revised the EXP curves to accomodate EXP scaling too, because it's way easier to level against Pokemon of your own level
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Stuffman on September 25, 2010, 08:20:26 AM
Alright sorry, I didn't mean to sound like Chainsaw Guitar or something. I'm just bothered that it seems like Pokemon is always the same game, just with a tweaked game mechanic or one new feature, and now this one comes along and they didn't even bother to add a new feature to the core gameplay. It reeks of incredible laziness.

There's less of them than there has been in the past two generations and as far as cut/strength goes, once they take effect, it stays affected instead of resetting when you return.  I think you can also freely overwrite HM moves now too, which works nice with the whole infinite TM thing.

If the part about freely overwriting HM moves is true this sounds like an okay solution. Diamond really pissed me off with forcing you to have at least one full-time HM slave and other HM moves scattered on the rest of your team.

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Besides, it seems like this game focused more on improving outside of the battle system.  The flow of the game, the amount of story, the variety of the world, the quality of the visuals, the level of challenge, etc., were all very carefully worked on and are pretty significant improvements over past entries in the series (There are people who say that there's more story in the opening cutscene when you power the game on than in any of the other main pokemon games as a whole, and they might be right honestly).

Speaking of which, how is the flow of the game? Did they do a better job of dispersing type varieties of Pokemon? I would flip my shit if we got another ten thousand water types and one fire type, looking at the Pokedex it looks like that's not the case at least. But do the Pokemon vary more by area? Does every cave still use the exact same Pokemon as the last (minus one rare one differing)?

Also what is this dream world thing? I haven't heard about that.

ALSO, DID THEY FIX FUCKING STEALTH ROCK?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 25, 2010, 08:30:48 AM
The type varieties definitely seem to be better varied.  It's a bit controlled early on - they actually designed the first gym to use this against you and require you to branch out and search a little more to get something specifically to counteract that.  You very quickly get access to pretty much any types you'd want, however, and given that there's more Pokemon added in this generation than there was in the first gen in total, there's no real shortage of options.

As for what is where, I will say that they varied up the environments enough that you aren't just journeying through cave after cave, and on top of that from what I can see of an encounters-by-area list (Though it's far from complete), it appears that the pokemon you can meet up with change fairly constantly.  Since there are only new pokemon up until you obtain the National Dex, this really helps keep things fresh throughout.

As for the dream world, it's one of the new features.  You can upload your save data online, and then go traipsing through the "Dream World" using your normal net, where you can find pokemon you wouldn't normally find in the game.  They carry different abilities from their traditional counterparts, however, and if you're big on the metagame, some of these have opened some interesting new opportunities for Pokemon that previously were ignored.

As for Stealth Rock... it works the same, sadly, but there are more ways to counter it (including bouncing it back at your opponents) this time.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 25, 2010, 08:38:58 AM
ELECTRIC ZEBRA

how is that not awesome

come on stuffman

also you can get a psychic type damnably early
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on September 25, 2010, 08:52:19 AM
Alright sorry, I didn't mean to sound like Chainsaw Guitar or something.

That was uncalled for. Care to explain why you felt that was necessary?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on September 25, 2010, 05:57:01 PM
You reap what you sow, kid.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 25, 2010, 06:12:27 PM
So in #T-M Trance, Matsuri and I decided to make a channel for Pokemon and potentially arranging matches using Shoddy Battle, Pokemon Online and Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. It's named #Poke-Meido because thats what happens to every channel that is made to unclog #T-M.

Also more people should use Pokemon online as located here  http://www.pokemon-online.eu/ it's a pretty good UI for making teams easily.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on September 25, 2010, 06:14:04 PM
That's #Poke-meido on ppirc, to be more specific. No more dejatoons thank god <3333
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on September 25, 2010, 08:13:13 PM
You reap what you sow, kid.

Wow, is that ever fucking biased. I cannot believe you would actually hold past experiences against me. That was a totally unprovoked personal attack, there's no justifying that.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kilgamayan on September 25, 2010, 08:26:28 PM
Don't start none, won't be none, pal.

Listen, I can dig the StarMan.EXE profile setup, because he's basically the best thing to ever happen to that series outside of Roll, but there is such a thing as reputations, and they tend to stick. You have no one to blame but yourself for people thinking the way they do about you and your mannerisms. If you want to change their way of thinking, change your conduct.

A good starting point would be to do less of this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7215.msg446480.html#msg446480).
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on September 25, 2010, 08:40:13 PM
A good starting point would be to do less of this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7215.msg446480.html#msg446480).
I don't see anything wrong with that post tbh
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 25, 2010, 08:54:08 PM
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Listen, I can dig the StarMan.EXE profile setup, because he's basically the best thing to ever happen to that series outside of Roll,
...you know, what's horrific is that I can almost agree with this and I'm a big Battle Network fan.  Though I'd personally side towards either 5DS for not requiring dual version bullcrap and having everything in one game, or the series finally ending and then Star Force starting, as the best thing that would happen--*OFFTOPIC'D*
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kilgamayan on September 25, 2010, 08:55:43 PM
I don't see anything wrong with that post tbh

You wouldn't.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: RainfallYoshi on September 25, 2010, 08:59:25 PM
Can we take the drama to PMs so we can have less attacks and moar Pokemans in the pokemans thread?  :V

On a more related note, I'm really fond of the new battle graphics in this game. It makes it seem a lot more lively than before where you just had the completely still sprites and such.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on September 25, 2010, 09:05:43 PM
You wouldn't.
Trolls everywhere :ohdear:

Anyways, when is the EU B/W release? Might be actually able to get a game at launch for the first time in my life
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on September 25, 2010, 09:09:21 PM
Trolls everywhere :ohdear:

Anyways, when is the EU B/W release? Might be actually able to get a game at launch for the first time in my life
Spring 2011 supposedly (http://www.webcitation.org/5sv9mEgHH)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on September 25, 2010, 09:09:58 PM
It better have Tropius
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 25, 2010, 09:22:56 PM
It better have Tropius
Black/White has no Pokemon from former generations until after you get the NationalDex (With the possible exception of the Dream World.  Unfortunately we're a little stingy on info from the Dream World because it's been down due to overloaded servers and needing upgrades to handle it, olololol)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 25, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
It better have Tropius

Wi-Fi connection should be able to get you a Troupius fairly easily.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 26, 2010, 12:48:51 PM
Trolls everywhere :ohdear:

It takes one to know one after all

On a brighter note, the Heart Bat is soooo cute. :3
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 26, 2010, 01:47:47 PM
On a brighter note, the Heart Bat is soooo cute. :3
I know rite? 
Too bad it feels weak to almost everything.  Even the game's resident caterpillar can kick its ass
.

I ended up doing a chart on /tr/ of my favourite pokemon of each type by generation, and came to the horrifying realisation that I really don't like a lot of the old Pokemon anymore (Chances are I'm just sick of them), even though the ones that used to make my eyes light up still do (Fun stuff like Hoppip I LOVE HOPPIPS and my inexplicable love for Natu/Xatu).  Then I hit fifth generation, and realised a lot of the designs were interesting enough that I actually can get excited about a lot of them.

Also it has the first fighting types I might consider using in the history of the series.  I have hated fighting types throughout the whole series; Pokemon that look humanoid just don't "click" with me and up until this generation's
Legendary Three(+1) Muskedeers
, I have refused to use them in pretty much every game.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Bananamatic on September 26, 2010, 02:21:06 PM
On a brighter note, the Heart Bat is soooo cute. :3
luvdisc syndrome
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fluffy Rocket Tails on September 27, 2010, 01:32:28 AM
I ended up doing a chart on /tr/ of my favourite pokemon of each type by generation, and came to the horrifying realisation that I really don't like a lot of the old Pokemon anymore (Chances are I'm just sick of them), even though the ones that used to make my eyes light up still do (Fun stuff like Hoppip I LOVE HOPPIPS and my inexplicable love for Natu/Xatu).  Then I hit fifth generation, and realised a lot of the designs were interesting enough that I actually can get excited about a lot of them.

I love Natu as well.  It and Wooper are my top two favorites, not counting Cyndaquil. 

A while ago a thing called "shooter" or something was mentioned as being in the battle menu.  What was this if anything?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 27, 2010, 04:04:34 AM
I love Natu as well.  It and Wooper are my top two favorites, not counting Cyndaquil. 

A while ago a thing called "shooter" or something was mentioned as being in the battle menu.  What was this if anything?

The Miracle Shooter is a integral part of 5th gen competitive battling as it now allows you to use items in battle

But the items have a point cost and you may earn points through the battle.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 27, 2010, 03:20:49 PM
Oh man, I totally forgot about the Shooter mechanics.  Then again you don't see them playing single player.

Speaking of things not mentioned, Rotation Battles are awesome and I am actually hoping a competitive scene pops up around them.

For those of you who don't know how Rotation Battles work: They're basically one-on-one battles like normal.  However, you have three Pokemon on the field at a time.  Every turn, you have your choice of which pokemon will be the 'active' one and which of its moves it will perform (or if it will be the recipient of an item or pokemon change).  This means that, essentially, you have the choice of 12 moves on any given action, and three different elements of attacker... and so does your opponent.  Since moves don't target Pokemon that aren't active, it really is just single battles - just with a larger set of options and a more visible hand, and a lot more prediction - and mindgames.

Specifically because of the mindgame opportunities of attacking with any of three different pokemon on a turn, I begin to wonder if perhaps there will actually be a competitive scene for them...



...As an aside I'm not sure if these are the actual triple battles or not.  Because it is definitely three pokemon vs three pokemon but not at all the way they were originally described as working...
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Stuffman on September 27, 2010, 07:08:42 PM
Speaking of things not mentioned, Rotation Battles are awesome and I am actually hoping a competitive scene pops up around them.

For those of you who don't know how Rotation Battles work: They're basically one-on-one battles like normal.  However, you have three Pokemon on the field at a time.  Every turn, you have your choice of which pokemon will be the 'active' one and which of its moves it will perform (or if it will be the recipient of an item or pokemon change).  This means that, essentially, you have the choice of 12 moves on any given action, and three different elements of attacker... and so does your opponent.  Since moves don't target Pokemon that aren't active, it really is just single battles - just with a larger set of options and a more visible hand, and a lot more prediction - and mindgames.

Specifically because of the mindgame opportunities of attacking with any of three different pokemon on a turn, I begin to wonder if perhaps there will actually be a competitive scene for them...

So it turns out the "3v3" battles are exactly what I wanted, then!? This sounds fun, and it would make a good new mechanic to base the game around.

How often do you play these rotation battles in BW?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on September 27, 2010, 07:13:58 PM
You still get a kind of three on three battle too instead of just rotation. Three Pokemon get sent out and it works just like you'd expect but with a few restrictions. Pokemon on the left can only attack the Pokemon on the opponent's left and middle, the Pokemon in the middle can attack anyone, and the Pokemon on the right can only attack the Pokemon on the opponent's right and middle. /just reading spoilers. Haven't played :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on September 27, 2010, 08:53:27 PM
Specifically because of the mindgame opportunities of attacking with any of three different pokemon on a turn, I begin to wonder if perhaps there will actually be a competitive scene for them...

Trust me there will be scenes for all of them via Simulator. Although i'm likely going to stick to Standard 6v6 myself.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 27, 2010, 11:08:24 PM
So it turns out the "3v3" battles are exactly what I wanted, then!? This sounds fun, and it would make a good new mechanic to base the game around.

How often do you play these rotation battles in BW?

They're not all that common in-game, actually.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on September 28, 2010, 01:57:18 AM
They're not all that common in-game, actually.
Sadly this.  I've got five badges so far, and my first and only rotation battle to date was an optional tutorial by an NPC in the fifth gym's city.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 28, 2010, 08:19:02 AM
I just caught my Victini

I heard it has a "legendary catch rate," then I caught it on my 2nd ball toss (Pokeball) after mashing A and B. :]
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on September 28, 2010, 02:57:49 PM
I just caught my Victini

I heard it has a "legendary catch rate," then I caught it on my 2nd ball toss (Pokeball) after mashing A and B. :]

Wait, 'caught'? I thought it was an event Pokemon. =O
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on September 28, 2010, 03:14:01 PM
Wait, 'caught'? I thought it was an event Pokemon. =O

Yeah, you need to get the Liberty Ticket through Mystery Gift, so it IS an Event Pokemon

But you need to catch it.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Matsuri on September 28, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
Oh :P
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Esifex on September 28, 2010, 04:04:53 PM
I haven't been following this thread that far so I don't know if this has been posted (I'm not a big Pokemon fan, I only played original Red and Blue (mostly Blue) way back in the day)

But, if this hasn't been shared yet, would this not be pretty cool to watch or not (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg)? I'd be all over that like white on rice.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on October 01, 2010, 07:06:34 AM
Currently at Route 7, training in preparation for the Tower of Heaven and the fight vs. Fuuro

Team:
Jaroda Ragna Lv36
Gantoru Shichiren Lv33
Swanna Mizuhashi Lv35
Koromori Arcana Lv32
Victini Ryougi Lv33
Banipucchi Choco Lv24
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: lumber_of_the_beast on October 05, 2010, 10:14:51 PM
I really wish I didn't love this avatar too much to change it, because Ranculus is adorable :ohdear:

(Next part of my quest to learn japanese goes up early tomorrow. in it, I think I finally pick my gender :V)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on October 06, 2010, 11:26:41 PM
Anyone know a code for Pokemon Yellow that sets experience gain to 0?

Since there's quick level up codes, there has to be a way to set experience to 0.

And yes, it must be Yellow as Red/Blue are much easier than Yellow.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on October 07, 2010, 09:18:04 AM
Finally beat the Pokemon White main storyline! Whoopee.

Feels good, as the last battles were super challenging for my Ghost/Dark-weak team
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on October 17, 2010, 09:53:14 PM
So I actually I have Wi-Fi access and now an old freind wants to battle me via that once I get my fancy new team made.

inb4 I make a team of the same few Pokemon I always do seeing as i'm already starting on breeding a Brave Bird Skarmory.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Third Eye Lem on October 18, 2010, 07:17:10 AM
As fun as Battle Factory is, it has severe elements of complete and utter BS. Sometimes you get lucky, other times you get ⑨ed by a Garchomp or some other powerful Pokemon. So far, I'm getting lucky...So far.

Raise your hand if you finished the Battle Frontier legitimately, and share your strategies. In the meantime, I'm gonna go sleep. Didn't go to sleep, managed to make it up to Thorton before his team flattened me. T_T Why, Game Freak? WHYYYYYYY? (sobs and falls asleep, hoping to dream about Kirby stays awake for several hours before finally falling asleep for a few hours)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: trancehime on October 19, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
A Team of Lv1 Pokemon defeat B&W Cynthia (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12201716)

Rules
1. Only hold items are allowed to be used
2. Endeavour and Destiny Bond are not allowed
3. Level ups are allowed
4. You cannot use the same Pokemon more than twice
5. Smeargle is not allowed

Team
Magnemite w/ EXP Share [ROLE] - Sturdy, gets Sonic Boom upon level up
Girafarig [ROLE] - SubPasser
Shroomish [ROLE] - SubSeeder, but only thru Girafarig BP
Koaruhii (Duck Pkmn) [ROLE] - SubProtect, Staller
Pineco [ROLE] - Sturdy, sets up w/ Spikes + Toxic Spikes + Stealth Rock
Nosepass [ROLE] w/ Rocky Hardhat - Sturdy, abuses Pain Split, forces Physical attackers to constantly take damage
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Polaris on November 22, 2010, 11:36:50 PM
Okay, well, the starters are now Snivy, Tepig, and Oshawott of the Unova region. This is fun. :V
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on November 23, 2010, 01:29:28 AM
Okay, well, the starters are now Snivy, Tepig, and Oshawott of the Unova region. This is fun. :V
You lost me on so many levels just now.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: COPIRIGHTO on November 23, 2010, 01:31:14 AM
http://pokebeach.com/2010/11/isshu-starters-english-names-revealed
Oshawott makes me think of Ocelots
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Kasu on November 23, 2010, 01:33:24 AM
http://pokebeach.com/2010/11/isshu-starters-english-names-revealed
Oshawott makes me think of Ocelots
Oh God...  Those are horrible names...  Why can't they leave anything alone? ;_;
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on November 23, 2010, 01:59:54 AM
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Isshu region: Unova Region (Either letters from ?United States ?OV? America,? since Isshu is based off our country, or from the Latin words ?Unum? + ?Nova,? which mean ?One New.?)

There is only one thing that can convey what I'm feeling right now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLJLyneZGKc)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Lord Scalgon on November 23, 2010, 08:21:53 PM
Smugleaf is way better than Snivy.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on November 23, 2010, 08:33:47 PM
1. Choose Snivy
2. Nickname it Smugleaf
3. ??
4. Profit!
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Garlyle on November 23, 2010, 09:43:29 PM
It's kinda surprising that Isshu is the first region whose name is getting changed.

More than that, it's getting changed to multiple different things depending on language, most of which are completely different from one another @_@
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 25, 2010, 08:59:08 AM
Oshawott
Osh ... tt
Oshit why. Didn't I rage enough about how people spelt "Miju" (ミジュ)?
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Helix ⑨ on November 27, 2010, 07:45:16 PM
I'm playing Pokemon Crystal.

I want to train a hitmonlee, but every time I level my tyrogue above level 20 it evolves into hitmonlee without learning hitmonlee's moves.
I read on bulbapedia that he should learn double kick, meditate, rolling kick and jump kick before level 20. Yet he only evolves at level 20.

So is there any way I can learn these moves to a hitmonlee? I've got plenty of bred tyrogue's through using a ditto.
Can't I get a level 1-5 hitmonlee somehow? Since there ain't a move relarner in crystal either.
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Suikama on November 27, 2010, 08:07:55 PM
Just go to the move relearner
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Helix ⑨ on November 27, 2010, 08:29:23 PM
There is none in crystal
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Fossil Goo on November 27, 2010, 09:53:35 PM
I am eagerly anticipating the official English release for B/W! There's just so many awesome things in this generation, I can't think of a single Pokemon that I actually dislike in the whole group.  :getdown:

Also, something someone made in regards to the English names for the starters:
(http://oi55.tinypic.com/1z38q5u.jpg)
Title: Re: Pok?mon thread Generation 2: Gold/Silver version
Post by: Rikter on December 01, 2010, 08:08:41 PM
There is none in crystal

se Pokemon Stadium 2's move relearner