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Title: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on November 01, 2011, 09:57:59 PM
Well, just something that crossed my mind while thinking.

What kind of abilities would you like to see appear in Touhou?

Personally I think a girl with manipulation of gravity would be interesting.

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Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Raikaria on November 01, 2011, 10:06:42 PM
I'd actually like another character who has no real ability. Kinda like Marisa [Depends if you class magic as an ability in Gensokyo]

Even if it's just a Stage 1 Boss. Far as I know, anyone can use Danmaku, not just Shrine Maidens, Half-Humans and Non-Humans.

Outside of that? Maybe a plant-manipulator?
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 01, 2011, 11:02:39 PM
I'd actually like another character who has no real ability. Kinda like Marisa [Depends if you class magic as an ability in Gensokyo]

Ran and Chen say hi.

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Outside of that? Maybe a plant-manipulator?

Yuuka says hi.

There are many abilities I'd like to see, such as:
Telekinesis
Complete mind control
Manipulation of corruption
Purification
Alchemy/Manipulation of matter
Summoning
Bringing art to life/Animation
Truth revealing powers (like an all-seeing eye. The opposite of Nue's powers)
Future sight
Prehensile hair
Manipulation of cleanness
Cursing aura/Manipulation of curses (The opposite of Hina's powers)
Petrification (May it be through gaze, bite, spell or whatever)

Edit:
Healing/Reviving spells/powers

Some of these could manifest well in danmaku, resulting in interesting spellcards. I'll probably come up with more ideas later, but I'd especially like to see these. They would fit well with certain species and character types.
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Post by: Mimachiro on November 01, 2011, 11:02:59 PM
I'm not about how much I want to see it, but it would be funny to see a youkai that could manipulate hair. Sounds lame at first, but someone who could make your hair grow out into a rope long enough to strangle you wouldn't be so funny if you're on the receiving end.
I totally just thought that up randomly
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Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 01, 2011, 11:09:49 PM
I have a character that manipulates the viewpoint of an individual. As in, forcing one to see from (and/or look at) a different point in space.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 01, 2011, 11:21:55 PM
I have a character that manipulates the viewpoint of an individual. As in, forcing one to see from (and/or look at) a different point in space.

The first thing I thought of was  this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsgbcYnmR6Y).
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 01, 2011, 11:22:43 PM
Manipulation of colors. Prettiest bullets in Gensokyo, here we come!
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Post by: Drake on November 01, 2011, 11:35:38 PM
I'm not about how much I want to see it, but it would be funny to see a youkai that could manipulate hair. Sounds lame at first, but someone who could make your hair grow out into a rope long enough to strangle you wouldn't be so funny if you're on the receiving end.
I totally just thought that up randomly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harionago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futakuchi-onna
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Mimachiro on November 01, 2011, 11:39:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harionago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futakuchi-onna
And that's why I stay away from someone who laughs at me randomly.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on November 01, 2011, 11:41:32 PM
Hmmm... Some ideas I came up with for OC youkai were like,
Manipulation of Vibrations
Manipulation of Flow
Possession
Able to Negotiate terms in her favor
Superacceleration
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Desu_Cake on November 01, 2011, 11:55:08 PM
I'd like to see a character that can manipulate weight, and make their opponents so fat that their hitbox takes up the entire screen.
Manipulation of comfort. I want that one for myself.
Maybe some more elemental stuff too. Wind and earth powers and suchlike.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Grimarg on November 02, 2011, 12:13:59 AM
i said it before, and i will say it again, i want someone who controls food.

I WANT MEAT LOLI!
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 02, 2011, 12:35:39 AM
Hmmm... Some ideas I came up with for OC youkai were like,
Manipulation of Vibrations
Manipulation of Flow
Possession
Able to Negotiate terms in her favor
Superacceleration

Oh, these are really nice ones. They would fit rather well in Touhou. Manipulation of Vibrations especially sounds good, mostly because it reminds me of Whitebeard from One Piece. :V (And look at all the damage he can cause with that!)
I wonder how exactly Manipulation of Flow would work...
Possession would most likely result in a fan-made Touhou parody of Ghost Trick.

I'd like to see a character that can manipulate weight, and make their opponents so fat that their hitbox takes up the entire screen.
Manipulation of comfort. I want that one for myself.
Maybe some more elemental stuff too. Wind and earth powers and suchlike.


A nebutori would likely have Manipulation of Weight. They're youkai that curse women with lethargy and obesity.
Aya and Kanako already cover wind manipulation though, while Suwako and Tenshi cover earth manipulation.
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Post by: Scarlet Devil Maid on November 02, 2011, 12:43:00 AM
An ability that would be interesting would be Manipulation Of Blood
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Post by: Desu_Cake on November 02, 2011, 12:43:07 AM
Aya and Kanako already cover wind manipulation though, while Suwako and Tenshi cover earth manipulation.

I meant more like Patchy's elemental spells, only with different elements.  :V
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: KrackoCloud on November 02, 2011, 01:00:58 AM
An amanojaku is a youkai that's supposed to be able to get people to "provoke a person's darkest desires and thus instigate him into perpetrating wicked deeds."
I think that's perfect Ex-boss material right there. Why did this person start this incident? Why, she was tempted by the amanojaku!
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 02, 2011, 01:28:31 AM
An amanojaku is a youkai that's supposed to be able to get people to "provoke a person's darkest desires and thus instigate him into perpetrating wicked deeds."
I think that's perfect Ex-boss material right there. Why did this person start this incident? Why, she was tempted by the amanojaku!
Too bad the ten desires final boss isnt amanojaku right? Amanojaku HATES buddhism and BISHAMONTEN you know, of course the youkai can manipulate desires too right? too bad too bad..

ANyway, my abilities:
Manipulation of motion and movement
Power to cause disaster
Power to cause suffering
Can breath life to any object(PLants included)
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on November 02, 2011, 01:48:02 AM
Hmm les see~
Manipulation of Memory
Manipulation of Dream
Ability to show or force images into a person's mind
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Starxsword on November 02, 2011, 03:08:37 AM
@Sonae:
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Personally I think a girl with manipulation of gravity would be interesting.
Suika can sort of do that.

@OkashiiKisei:
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Truth revealing powers (like an all-seeing eye. The opposite of Nue's powers)
Isn't this what Eiki does?


Hmmm an ability I would like to see is manipulation of Motivation.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 02, 2011, 06:24:01 AM
Hmmm an ability I would like to see is manipulation of Motivation.

Which is why I have my OCs for (Mittsuu). :D
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 02, 2011, 06:55:41 AM

@OkashiiKisei:Isn't this what Eiki does?


Hmmm an ability I would like to see is manipulation of Motivation.

Oh yeah, you're right. :derp: Mirror of Truth and all that...

And that would be a very nifty ability for school, work and much more.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Bias Bus on November 02, 2011, 08:25:13 AM
Whatever I like to see is what I'm doing (or will do) for myself through fics and the like...so I'll just list that shit on below;

- Manipulation of Gluttony
- Stove Fire that brings food to life (don't ask)
- Food Manipulation
- Power to control Miasma
- Acid manipulation
- Hivemind
- Power to control parasites (both internal and external, also tapeworm danmaku. 50 feet of PAIN)
- Necromancy (Orin actually isn't a Necromancer, believe it or not)
- Power to cause Calamity and Disasters (the ultimate incident)
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Angelfire on November 02, 2011, 11:22:44 AM
Manipulation of emotions. I have an OC who can do that (Razgriz aka Tesni Foulke), and it would just open an unendingly fun can of worms.

Also, have someone with Manipulation of Chaos.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on November 02, 2011, 04:11:46 PM
Hmm.
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manipulation of Motivation.
The prismrivers, to a degree, can do that. So can any phantom

As to the first response in the topic, Magic is an ability. And most magicians/magic users have a certain specialty.
The Tsuchinoko is a creature that manipulates plants.
And Yuuka has the Manipulation of Flowers. While Flowers are plants, plants aren't strictly flowers.

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Summoning
Healing/Reviving spells/powers
Purification
Shikigami can be summoned, so Yukari has that ability. Healing/Reviving powers...there's alot of those. Mokou, Kaguya, Yoshika, and Seiga.

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Wind and earth
Aya, Tengu in general, Patchy, Kanako, Sanae,  Tenshi, Suwako, Patchy once again, the giant catfish.

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Power to cause disaster
Power to cause suffering
In a way, Tenshi, Medicine, Remi, and maybe more can cause disaster and suffering. Toyohime carries a fan of mass destruction.

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Suika can sort of do that.
If my memory serves me correctly, density and gravity are no where near the same thing.

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Power to control Miasma
Power to control parasites
Necromancy
Power to cause Calamity and Disasters
Medicine? Wriggle? Seiga? Tenshi can do that. Though most of all would be a dragon.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Bias Bus on November 02, 2011, 07:12:13 PM
Not all parasites are insects though. Ticks, for example, are in the same family as spiders. Most of the parasitic worms are either Roundworms or Flatworms, not insects.

Although, you got me on Seiga and Medicine.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 02, 2011, 08:03:23 PM

As to the first response in the topic, Magic is an ability. And most magicians/magic users have a certain specialty.

Only character I can think of with no real ability is Youmu. She only has skills like swordsmanship and concentration.

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The Tsuchinoko is a creature that manipulates plants.
And Yuuka has the Manipulation of Flowers. While Flowers are plants, plants aren't strictly flowers.

Still, it is very close, and often overlaps. Suwako actually has complete plant manipulation. She can sprout trees, lilies and more right on the spot. Kanako also has those metal rusting roots.

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Shikigami can be summoned, so Yukari has that ability. Healing/Reviving powers...there's alot of those. Mokou, Kaguya, Yoshika, and Seiga.

I mean a character that can summon creatures or items that aren't strictly bound to them, like demons or weapons, or spirits from a special realm. An ability that allows you to summon anything on the spot, instead of having to make a contract first. The closest thing we have to it are Reimu and Yorihime's deity summoning powers. Vampires are also described as being able to summon demons with mere whispers.

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If my memory serves me correctly, density and gravity are no where near the same thing.

True, though Suika can increase the density of something so much that it gains a gravitational pull. Cranking it up even more creates her black holes, which are destructive gravity wells. It isn't exactly gravity manipulation though, since you can't increase or decrease the gravity of a given location with it.

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Medicine? Wriggle? Seiga? Tenshi can do that. Though most of all would be a dragon.

Aside from mosquitoes and a few bugs that lay eggs in others, there are hardly any insect parasites. Ticks are arachnids, as Erebus stated, mites too, and most internal parasites are either worms or some kind of micro-organism. Those don't count as insects.
And Tenshi can cause earthquakes and bad weather, and possibly by extension tsunamis, volcanoes, lightning storms and tornadoes, but she can't directly cause more abstract disasters. Economic disaster, social disaster, plagues. She also can't summon meteor storms and the like.  With manipulation of disaster, you could also cause small scale 'disasters' that ruin the day of only a few instead of causing mass destruction.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on November 02, 2011, 08:48:28 PM
Ticks, for example, are in the same family as spiders

......-twitch- I knew it.....

-hides from pine trees-
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on November 02, 2011, 09:09:10 PM
Bringing art to life/Animation
*is now imagining Relm (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Relm_Arrowny) in Touhou*

Yes.

Yes.



Yes.
That is all.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Polaris on November 03, 2011, 01:49:28 AM
I would like to point out that there is nothing wrong with having more than one character with similar abilities (although there is a lesser chance of them actually appearing). You don't need to go out of your way to refute a power because someone else already has it. :derp:

I wouldn't mind another plant-based character in the same vein as the tsuchinoko, having power over vines. As I recall, the tsuchinoko is a servant of Nozuchi, so maybe Nozuchi herself (or maybe a derivative) could make an appearance?
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Post by: Starxsword on November 03, 2011, 02:13:06 AM
If my memory serves me correctly, density and gravity are no where near the same thing.
Yeah, like what the other person said. They aren't really the same, but Suika can do something similar. I am guessing increasing and
decreasing an object's density causes gravity, since Suika is able to make miniature black holes.

Hmmm a cool ability I would like to see is manipulation of Gold. This is like the king Midas legend where the character can
turn stuff to gold. It would be funny to see interactions between that character and characters in poverty(Reimu).
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Post by: haoreos2 on November 03, 2011, 07:41:18 AM
If my memory serves me correctly, density and gravity are no where near the same thing.

ZUN seems to treat them as the same thing, like how Sakuya can manipulate space due to her time powers. If it works like that in-universe, physics is irrelevant =D

I'd actually like another character who has no real ability. Kinda like Marisa [Depends if you class magic as an ability in Gensokyo]

Alice and Patchouli also have "magic" as their ability, they just specialise in automancy and elementalism instead of stuff blowin' up.


Personally I'd like to see some magnetism going on. Having danmaku repel or attract each other could make all sorts of interesting spellcards.
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Post by: Bias Bus on November 03, 2011, 11:19:22 AM
Manipulation of Fungi would be neat. If only because it's an excuse to come up with a mushroom or fungal youkai that has an 'uprising' against the one who keeps eating her 'comrades'. I remember a boss character of an old text adventure I ran had this ability.
too bad she was a mushroom youkai and ended up manipulating herself into madness.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Jett on November 03, 2011, 12:17:13 PM
Hmmm.... I would actually like to see a character who didn't have any abilities, but had a magical item that gave her (or him if ZUN is drunk enough) powers.
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Post by: Sonae on November 03, 2011, 06:56:10 PM
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Personally I'd like to see some magnetism going on. Having danmaku repel or attract each other could make all sorts of interesting spellcards.
I've thought of that aswell

The Ability to Negotiate terms in their favor
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 03, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
Manipulation of Dimensions
Manipulation of Existance

I have no idea how danmaku would be affected, but damn would it be awesome.

I guess Manipulation of Rage would be cool as well, the more you hit her, the more enraged she gets and harder the danmaku comes.
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Post by: Excelsus on November 04, 2011, 10:10:47 AM
Power to escape bad luck
Power to change personality and emotion
Western-style divine power and exorcism(As in christian/catholic)
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Post by: Jett on November 04, 2011, 11:43:03 AM
Power to escape bad luck
Power to change personality and emotion
Western-style divine power and exorcism(As in christian/catholic)

Hina Kagiyama,
any bipolar person,
and Jesus.
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Post by: Desu_Cake on November 04, 2011, 12:50:56 PM
Maybe a plant-manipulator?
Manipulation of Fungi would be neat.
And their boss, the lichen youkai!
... Wait, lichens are the most boring things in existance. Dammit!
...
Manipulation of boredom!
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Post by: Angelfire on November 04, 2011, 03:16:04 PM
and Jesus.

DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT

Also philosophers.
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Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 04, 2011, 03:21:37 PM
Manipulation of Dimensions

3D-looking danmaku in 2D! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FhkEM6kU_Dg#t=131s)
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Post by: Unassuming Squid on November 04, 2011, 03:30:41 PM
Yeah, like what the other person said. They aren't really the same, but Suika can do something similar. I am guessing increasing and
decreasing an object's density causes gravity, since Suika is able to make miniature black holes.

Belatedly, a black hole is created when an object becomes so dense and compact that it rips a hole in space-time. In addition, the very center of a black hole is thought to have infinite density, and when an object reaches that center it is also crushed to infinite density and added to the mass of the black hole. So it makes sense that Suika would be able to make black holes relatively easily.

On a side note, I've always wondered if Utsuho would be able to make black holes by making the suns she creates go supernova and then collapse.

Anyway. On topic, I'd be interested in some of these.
Manipulation of Probability
Manipulation of Memory
Manipulation of Momentum
Ability to Manifest the Imagination
Manipulation of Emotion
Theoretical Driving (no I have no idea what it is, but it sounds awesome)
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Bias Bus on November 04, 2011, 03:32:27 PM
Wait, lichens are the most boring things in existance. Dammit!
So was an old, busted parasol...now look what we have :V
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Zap on November 04, 2011, 11:25:05 PM
I have given it some thought, and I have come up with some.
Ability to use others abilities by physical contact (limit to one at a time).
Ability to null other abilities.
Manipulation over the evil in ones heart.
Manipulation over anything metal.

Also I want to agree with the those who want manipulation over vibrations.


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Post by: Starxsword on November 05, 2011, 01:04:32 AM
Maybe manipulation of Stupidity.
Just talking to this character makes you feel stupider. Kind of like what happens in some fan comics with Cirno.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on November 05, 2011, 06:13:49 AM
Time for something outside conventional thinking.

Manipulation of Red Tape
Political Manipulation
Military Tactics/Weapons
Police Tactics/Weapons
Iai (aka ImprobableFencingSkills)
Ability to call in attacks from the outside (ARTILLERY BARRAGE)
Ability to absorb force and return it (Like DMC's RoyalGuard)
Ninjutsu
Power of Love Heavy/Power Metal



Cartoon Physics
Game Mechanics
Troll Logic
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Post by: Mr_Bob on November 05, 2011, 08:04:22 AM
I would like to see is manipulation of Gold. This is like the king Midas legend where the character can
turn stuff to gold.
Manipulation over anything metal.
How about Manipulation of Jewelry, it could be an earth element specialty, and think of the gemstone and precious metal themed danmaku.
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Post by: ChocolateLily on November 05, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
I'd like to see someone who can manipulate anything that is beyond the earth's atmosphere.
Or someone who can manipulate mana.
Or what about someone who can manipulate someone's immortality and mortality? Unless you drank the Hourai Elixir.
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Post by: Kyo Tanaka on November 05, 2011, 01:16:02 PM
I would like to see Manipulation of Blood tbh.
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Post by: Starxsword on November 05, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
I would like to see Manipulation of Blood tbh.
Remilia can sort of do that.
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 05, 2011, 02:26:34 PM
Time for something outside conventional thinking.

Cartoon Physics
Game Mechanics
Troll Logic

THIS.

How about Manipulation of Jewelry, it could be an earth element specialty, and think of the gemstone and precious metal themed danmaku.

Oh, that should produce some beautiful danmaku~
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Post by: GuardianTempest on November 05, 2011, 02:33:30 PM
Ah! Some praise!

Good thing I already have an OC for the cartoon physics part.

Anyone make a crack touhou OC for Troll Logic?
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Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 05, 2011, 03:12:15 PM
Good thing I already have an OC for the cartoon physics part.
I don't want to remember.

Anyone make a crack touhou OC for Troll Logic?
I think I should go do that right now.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2011, 04:18:39 PM
Do we have teleportation yet?
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 06, 2011, 04:31:55 PM

Do we have teleportation yet?
Yukari can do that
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 06, 2011, 04:34:28 PM
Yukari can do a lot of things. Sakuya can do something similar to that in IaMP (her vanishing trick with cards) but in practice it's probably just her stopping time. I meant actual teleportation.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on November 06, 2011, 04:56:05 PM
It's not teleportation, but judging from Reimu's ending in Ten Desires, it seems Miko and her gang have settled in this pocket dimension that allows them to move to any location they want instantly.
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 06, 2011, 07:57:07 PM
Reimu has a teleport move in the fighter games, and Yuuka, among other PC-98 bosses, teleport quite often.
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Post by: Zil on November 06, 2011, 08:05:21 PM
Yuuka, Mugetsu, and Gengetsu can all teleport, though of course it's not their main gig. Komachi does a teleport like thing as well in the fighting games. Also, a note on time/density manipulation. You can view time as the relationship between space and speed, and from that perspective, it would seem to be impossible to manipulate time without influencing the other two. Getting into the physics, time is just a function of space and speed, and by rearranging the equation, you can get space as a funtion of time and speed, and speed as a function of space and time, so it makes sense that controlling one variable gives you some control over the others. Komachi (using distance manipulation) can make a pink pillar in the fighting games that slows the enemy's horizontal movement. The idea is that she stretched the space in that area, but the effet is essentially the same as creating some kind of time slow-down. Similar logic can be used for Suika affecting gravity.

Anyway, powers that I'd like to see:
Plant/fungus manipulation
Using games as danmaku (Chess pieces, playing cards etc. kinda like Flandre's Kagome Kagome)
Math, or another science character like Rika or Rikako
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 06, 2011, 11:27:56 PM
Yuuka, Mugetsu, and Gengetsu can all teleport, though of course it's not their main gig. Komachi does a teleport like thing as well in the fighting games. Also, a note on time/density manipulation. You can view time as the relationship between space and speed, and from that perspective, it would seem to be impossible to manipulate time without influencing the other two. Getting into the physics, time is just a function of space and speed, and by rearranging the equation, you can get space as a funtion of time and speed, and speed as a function of space and time, so it makes sense that controlling one variable gives you some control over the others. Komachi (using distance manipulation) can make a pink pillar in the fighting games that slows the enemy's horizontal movement. The idea is that she stretched the space in that area, but the effet is essentially the same as creating some kind of time slow-down. Similar logic can be used for Suika affecting gravity.


By this logic, would space manipulation and speed manipulation also allow time manipulation by extension?
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Zil on November 06, 2011, 11:33:21 PM
By this logic, would space manipulation and speed manipulation also allow time manipulation by extension?
I would think so. If you can slow things down or speed them up, as well as change the space through which they are moving, you are essentailly manipulating time. After all, the only way to judge the passing of time is to observe movement through space. Hands moving around a clock, the earth perfoming rotations, etc.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on November 07, 2011, 01:57:25 AM
Do we have teleportation yet?

Sakuya, Reimu, Yukari, Mokou, and probably more are capable of 'Teleportation'
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Starxsword on November 07, 2011, 11:04:32 AM
Sakuya, Reimu, Yukari, Mokou, and probably more are capable of 'Teleportation'
Pshaw, all fake teleportation. Komachi is the only one with what looks to be real teleportation.
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Post by: haoreos2 on November 07, 2011, 11:21:10 AM
Pshaw, all fake teleportation. Komachi is the only one with what looks to be real teleportation.

Depends how you define teleportation.
If you define it as moving from one point in space to another instantly, all of them count (except maybe Mokou, not sure where she's shown to teleport), except Komachi who would still take a (very short) time to move across the contracted distance.
If you define it as moving from point A to point B without actually crossig the distance between them, only Reimu and Yukari would count, and Reimu only in terms of game mechanics.
If you define it as dematerializing in one spot and rematerializing in another, there probably aren't any yet.

Plus, that Komachi image looks to me more like the standard "this character is moving too fast to see" manga thing, in which case Youmu would count.

(Edit: PMiSS describes Yukari's ability to gap into Marisa's house as teleportation, if that's worth anything)
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Arcengal on November 07, 2011, 11:34:01 AM
How about a youkai who can understand all languages? Like a universal translator.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Starxsword on November 07, 2011, 12:01:49 PM
@haoreos2:
I normally define as moving point A to point B instantly.
That would not apply to Sakuya, because she does not move from point A to point B instantly, she stops time, moves to an area, then resumes time.
It would not apply to Reimu, because she also does not move from point A to point B instantly, well I guess she does in the games, but
they never tell you how. If it is like Yukari, see bottom.
Ditto for Yukari, because as you have seen in SWR, it is tiresome for her to err gap? and she seems to have to travel, even if she seemingly
teleports in the view of the victim.
I have no idea why Mokou is listed, Kaguya maybe, but Mokou?

As I have never seen anyone else do movements like what Komachi did, I assume that was teleport. Even in Silent Sinner in Blue where
Remilia circles around the moon, you see them in the end of their movement and stuff. I guess a better example would be when Marisa
did the Double Spark. Komachi simply disappears in this one. Also, I don't think Komachi is known to be a super fast character or anything.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Angelfire on November 07, 2011, 12:39:59 PM
An interesting power would be manipulation of technology. It'd certainly be interesting to see how Nitori would react to it.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Bias Bus on November 07, 2011, 02:09:25 PM
Manipulation of light (http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Pika_Pika_no_Mi), would be cool.

Or maybe even the power to Manipulate magma and lava, then we'd have a Volcanic youkai.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 07, 2011, 04:20:42 PM
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What's teleporting and what's not.

I think you guys are being too critical. Komachi can decrease the distance between points to zero, so she'd only need to take one step to reappear several miles away. That would look like teleporting to others, and it essentially is. Sakuya can control space by extension of time, so she could rip open wormholes or something similar to teleport, without needing to stop time. If Yukari's gaps aren't teleportation, I don't know what is. She goes from A to B instantly and harmlessly. It shouldn't matter if you use portals or not. Also,

Ditto for Yukari, because as you have seen in SWR, it is tiresome for her to err gap? and she seems to have to travel, even if she seemingly
teleports in the view of the victim.

When has she ever found it tiresome? Unless you're talking about how much she is a sleepyhead, but then you could say everything tires her.
The distance that she travels between gaps would also be minimal to the point of not mattering. While Reimu has to fly outside of reality from A to B, taking a lot of time and not being real teleportation, Yukari makes wormholes that really do bring you from A to B right away. After all, she can make the 'gap' between two locations vanish, essentially doing what Komachi does.

So far Yuuka, Mugetsu and Gengetsu seem to be the only traditional teleporters, as they actually vanish and reappear somewhere else. But that doesn't mean the other mentioned characters don't count as teleporters. They just use a different method.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 07, 2011, 04:47:55 PM
Manipulation of Common Sense.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Bias Bus on November 07, 2011, 04:53:02 PM
Manipulation of Common Sense.
How can manipulate common sense if there's none to be had in Gensokyo? :V

yeah, lame ass joke. I know.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 07, 2011, 10:33:31 PM
What I love most about this topic is that "original" characters have already been made to use these abilities.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Tengukami on November 07, 2011, 11:12:57 PM
How about a youkai who can understand all languages? Like a universal translator.

This is the best suggestion yet. If we have a translator youkai, that means ZUN would need to create at least one foreign cast member to join Gensokyo. There could be some sort of incident - any one will do - and of course everyone blames the immigrant, right? Only when they round on the immigrant youkai, she tries to explain that it's all a misunderstanding but no one can understand what she's saying. And being an immigrant youkai, she of course has a huge family1 who will back her up in a fight. Who, oh who, will step in and clear up this misunderstanding once and for all, and save Gensokyo from the ruin of total war? Why, universal translator youkai, that's who.
1 Not meant to be taken seriously; I'm an immigrant myself. We foreigners enjoy playing with the stereotypes.

EDIT: OK, the more I think about this idea, the more I feel like scripting it. Here's a very, very rough sketch:

Stage 1: PC is all "I can't believe [incident] happened! I'm so angry, and I bet that foreigner who just moved in, the one I've been hearing everyone talking about, is behind it all! Just wait till I get my hands on her!" PC fights fairies. Stage 1 boss appears, who's all "Oh I know where the foreigner lives, but I'm not telling you ... unless you fight me!" Fight ensues, PC wins, Stage 1 boss is all "ugh ... just head towards that mountain pass near the border".

Stage 2: PC travels through mountain pass near the border, fights fairies. Stage 2 boss appears and is all, "hey this is private property" but PC says "I'm after the foreigner who caused [incident]!". Fight ensues, PC wins, travels onwards.

Stage 3: PC is further up the mountains now, fights fairies. Stage 3 boss appears, who says, "but the foreigner is innocent! I know her personally. I can't understand a word she's saying but I know she has a good heart!" PC doesn't care, fight ensues, PC wins. Stage 3 boss is all, "ugh, I can see you won't give up. She lives in that cave on top of that mountain, right at the border."

Stage 4: PC travels up to the cave, fights fairies. Stage 4 boss appears, and her dialogue is indecipherable gibberish, but she appears clearly agitated and frightened, then angry. Fight ensues, PC wins, she decides to see if this youkai has a family.

Stage 5: PC heads further up the mountain, fights fairies. Suddenly, three youkai appear, who resemble the Stage 4 boss and speak the same gibberish. They look pissed. PC is all "uh oh, this must be the family." Fight ensues, a brutal attack from three directions. PC wins, decides to head back down the mountain to gather forces to come back up the mountain and exterminate all the foreigners.

Stage 6: PC heads back down the mountain, fights fairies. Before she even reaches the cave again, Universal Translator Youkai appears. She has with her Stage 4 boss, and the three Stage 5 bosses. Universal Translator Youkai says it's all a misunderstanding. The four foreign youkai speak, and she translates for each of them, as they give a fuzzy description of the person they saw who really is behind [incident]. At this point, PC is given a choice in dialogue responses:

1. "Boy, I feel foolish. I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions!"
2. "Yeah, right. That's exactly what a guilty person would say!"

If the PC chooses 1, Universal Translator Youkai will be all, "well, you still have to be punished anyway." Fight ensues, and it's PC vs. Universal Translator Youkai and Stage 4 boss at the same time. At the fight's conclusion, the real person behind [incident] is revealed in Extra.
If the PC chooses 2, Universal Translator Youkai will be all, "you need a lesson in multiculturalism!" Fight ensues, and it's PC vs. Universal Translator Youkai, the Stage 4 boss, and all three Stage 5 bosses at the same time. At the fight's conclusion, the real person behind [incident] is revealed in Extra.

In both Extras, the real cause of [incident] is Yukari, who wanted to teach PC to appreciate beings from other parts of the world. And because she was bored.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Zil on November 07, 2011, 11:59:49 PM
I have no idea why Mokou is listed, Kaguya maybe, but Mokou?
Mokou teleports all over the place in StB, when casting Exalted Personage "Advice of Saint Germain." In fact it's probobly one of the best examples of teleporting in the entire series, along with the various LLS characters.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: haoreos2 on November 08, 2011, 01:13:58 AM
@Zil: ah, never played StB that far. Could just be game mechanics in any case.
@OkashiiKisei: Yukari's dialogue in SWR has her complain about using gaps to mountain climb. Although, personally I interpret that as her teasing everyone else who has to do it manually, since every other instance of it has her doing it effortlessly. As for the teleportation issue, that gets back to what I said about how you define it: you seem to favour the first definition, in which case yes, they all pretty much apply.
@Starxsword: since Sakuya stops time, it's teleportation by that definition to anyone except herself (and anyone else who isn't frozen, I suppose), but I see what you mean. I'll ignore Reimu since it's debatable whether it's just a game mechanic thing or an actual ability. As for Komachi, it doesn't really matter if she's fast or not, because she can constrict the distance between two points:
Say point A is where she starts, and point B is a mile away. You could get there in a second if you move a mile in a second, but in Komachi's case, it would be more like reducing the distance to one meter, and then taking a step. She isn't technically moving really fast, but it's effectively the same thing. IMO Yukari would be the only one who would count, since the rest of them wouldn't be able to get inside a sealed room, for example.

I think an interesting twist on it could be if the character could teleport things she isn't touching- for example, suddenly moving the position of the character or bullets (similar to some of Reisen's spellcards) during a battle.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on November 08, 2011, 02:30:41 AM
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@Zil: ah, never played StB that far. Could just be game mechanics in any case.

Excuses!

Mokou is stated as having learned many types of magic. So she's not exactly a one trick pony.

As for teleporting... *coughsmurasacough*
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Starxsword on November 08, 2011, 02:31:32 AM
@OkashiiKisei:
I guess I got this from her SWR dialogue. I assume she is traveling in her gap during this time.
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Yukari: ..Huff, never thought mountain climbing would become so difficult at this age.
Oh, here's another unworking fellow.
Komachi: Whoa, you just came out of nowhere.
To the perspective of the victim, yes, that would be teleport, but not to the perspective of the user.

But Sakuya cannot do that, at least according to SSiB. If she could teleport, she would have been able to get out of her knife trap.

@haoreos2:
Yeah, that is what I meant. Teleport is instantaneous travel regardless of perspective, so freezing time and moving would not
constitute as teleporting.

@Zil:
Well, I stand corrected then.

Manipulation of Common Sense.
That would be fun.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: haoreos2 on November 08, 2011, 03:11:59 AM
Excuses!
Mokou is stated as having learned many types of magic. So she's not exactly a one trick pony.
As for teleporting... *coughsmurasacough*

True, true. It's entierly possible teleporting (at least, a short range one) is a learnable type of magic. I was playing ten desires just now, and the stage 5 midboss seemed to warp away after being beaten, too.

I kinda like the idea of a character with the power to distract. Thematically, you could have a high proportion of theatrical spell cards, and mechanically your ability to use focus mode for the fight could be disabled. Could also make for some interesting interactions with Youmu, or characters that already have little ability to focus, like Cirno.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Starxsword on November 08, 2011, 05:51:42 AM
Heh, Cirno will have a field day with that. Think of what the Danmaku will be like in her point of view.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 08, 2011, 12:04:49 PM
Manipulation of Superstitions...
BUt Yuugi,Sanae, and Nue kinda have that power...
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: B?t V?n Tử on November 11, 2011, 01:26:01 AM
Mine would be Manipulation of Clones, Space and Forms (altogether).

Basically, I was thinking of a (male) character whose occupation is either a spy or an information dealer, someone who buy and sell information but in this case he only sell, doesn't need to buy any (explained later).

His ability will be like creating any clone (Manipulation of Clones) out of no where (Manipulation of Space) and the clone can have any form either generic or copied version (Manipulation of Forms).

The Manipulation of Clones will allow him to create a nearly unlimited amount of clones. Most of his clones will be independent but powerless, in other word, they wont have his abilities unless he allows so (he will be weaken depending on what ability he allows the clone to use and to what degree). The clone memories will be a partial copied memories from the his original-self, and he can add more or erase their memories depending on situation (to counter-act someone like Satori) .All clones are linked together like a big network (just imagine him as the main server and each clone is an individual computer with or without a router). If he is in Gensokyo, the information connection to his other clones in the outside world maybe disconnected; even though his clones will be still doing the jobs that he "programmed" them to do, the info may not be transfer to him except with someone's help who has the control over Gensokyo Boundary like Yukari.

The Manipulation of Space is the same as ability to teleport (it is not as good as Sakuya's Manipulation of Space), but he can travel to any place excluding Yukari's gap (if he knows its existance). However, his teleport is not instant even though it can be extremely fast: the further the distance (calculated in 3 normal dimensions), the longer it takes to teleport there (i didnt think of the formula to calculate the time yet for now). As for virtual dimensions like the fourth dimensions which is called time, he cant do that, his ability only limit to space not time like Sakuya's; that means he cant teleport into Gensokyo if he is at the outside world and vice versa (due to the fact that Gensokyo is like Yukari's Gap, its in another dimensions different from our normal 3 dimensions). As stated above, his clone may or may not be able to teleport. Even though he can transfer memories or information each clone has back and forth among themselves, he cant do so for abilities; he can assign each clone his abilities only when he makes them.

The Manipulation of Forms can have him take any form from a small animal to another humanoid form, even being an invisible. He or his clones (if allowed) can take a form of a normal animal to observer or spy on a target, or take a form of one of the target's close friends or family members to gather info out of him/her, or even better simply be invisible. His clones can only transform back and forth from his original form and the assigned form, unlike him who can transform freely.

As for species, i make him a human, he will age and die like a normal human, but it will be hard to kill him since one cannot identify if that is just another clone of his or not.

I was think of adding the Ability to Completely Take Over a Human Body (some thing like Orochimaru did), so that even when hes about to got old and die, he can simply take another person body (and his memories also) to live on. If he can do that, I assume he will have a large amount of knowledge since he can just take over other body and memories. Well, that ability only limit to normal human who has doesnt have magic ability or something like that (so he cant take over any Touhou girls).

Now for his ability usage in combat... i think its not much, i will leave this to other ppl to be creative. One thing i can think of is: he possible wont be killed in a danmaku battle; you shot, slashed, or knifed him and made sure that he was not breathing, but then you heard his voice and he is right behind you uninjured. I am think of having him using gun, but that only works well at the outside world

Conclusion, his abilities are a mixed of Yuuka's clone, Sakuya's Manipulation of Space, Yukari's Gap to travel and Nue's ability to change forms.

That will be all. Feel free to comment on it.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Zil on November 11, 2011, 01:46:41 AM
A little omnipotent, perhaps? I can dig the doppelganger idea, and the notion of getting weaker by making more of them, but too many abilities at once is, well, too many abilities at once. Actually he seems alot like the various "made of jelly" characters from other places. Kinda like Boo from DBZ, or Sloth from FMA. I'm not saying he's a jelly guy. but they do tend to get those powers: hard to kill, make clones, shapeshift, possess people, etc.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: B?t V?n Tử on November 11, 2011, 01:51:40 AM
I think you're right. Maybe be i will reduce to Manipulation of Clones.
Its quite of unique in Gensokyo; Yuuka can create one clone but its mainly for combat. I think using clone to gather info or confusing others is quite fun xD

One more thing, consider hes being human with no magician ability (like Marisa), having thats many ability can be a trade-off

Edit: i think hes becoming a Naruto's rip-off :P
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on November 11, 2011, 02:42:46 AM
Manipulation of Ash
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 11, 2011, 03:23:46 AM
Manipulation of colloids. Separating things out by defined characteristics would be one of those "huh?" powers that might be really interesting in practice.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Starxsword on November 11, 2011, 03:27:53 AM
I think you're right. Maybe be i will reduce to Manipulation of Clones.
Its quite of unique in Gensokyo; Yuuka can create one clone but its mainly for combat. I think using clone to gather info or confusing others is quite fun xD

One more thing, consider hes being human with no magician ability (like Marisa), having thats many ability can be a trade-off

Edit: i think hes becoming a Naruto's rip-off :P
While not listed as one of their abilities, a lot of characters can make clones. Suwako can definitely make a whole bunch of them.
Remilia can also do it, and many other stage 6 characters.


I would like to see manipulation of speech. Getting people to say the wrong things will be hilarious.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Jq1790 on November 11, 2011, 03:30:21 AM
Manipulation of Ash
"And the world will turn to Ash""They must be talking about you!"

Perhaps someone with...the power of FRIENDSHIP!  No, not just being really nice, but being able to manipulate others' emotions to make others like them.  It'd be kinda like i've heard Remilia's fate manipulation works, though:  If you can feel the power being used on you, you can resist it.

Would be potentially a really crafty character, though my idea of them would be someone who was lonely, perhaps a spirit of someone abandoned by their friends(Who left in fright of some horrible event or something, their minds only focusing on survival).
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: B?t V?n Tử on November 11, 2011, 07:05:24 AM
Manipulation of Ash
I dont know what u mean by Manipulation of Ash, but i think it may similar to Suika ability.

New thought: Manipulation of Memories: create, modify and erase.
Do you that is similar to Keine's ability?
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: B?t V?n Tử on November 11, 2011, 07:07:28 AM
I would like to see manipulation of speech. Getting people to say the wrong things will be hilarious.

Wow, that would be very useful against magicians or whoever need to recite their spells. I think using spells cards is useless if ur silenced or cant say the spell name :)
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 11, 2011, 07:25:14 AM
Touhou have a kunai bullets, but there's no  a ninja yet? BLASPHEMY!
Hmmm..
Power to become "justin bieber"
Power to become "rebecca black"
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: haoreos2 on November 11, 2011, 07:31:21 AM
(Completely forgot to mention earlier, but Daiyousei teleports in EoSD stage 2)

Manipulation of vectors could be an interesting (albiet pretty overpowered) ability.
Power to use onmyodo (paper charm shikigami and the ofouda bullets and such)
Power to detect weaknesses
Manipulation of colour

(Touhou has no ninja because things have to grow to near extinction in the outside world to reach Gensokyo, and ninja are far too common to qualify. Protip: if there's no ninja in your line of sight, it's because he is above you. If there is one, it's not a real ninja, because ninja cannot be seen. Ninja.)
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on November 11, 2011, 08:35:49 AM
Hmm, persuasive writing ala Rizal.

Also, since Ninja aren't included, what about the ORIGINAL assassins? Those guys from the middle east?

And nothing in this thread can beat my Game Mechanics and Troll Logic, especially the latter.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 11, 2011, 12:23:08 PM
(Completely forgot to mention earlier, but Daiyousei teleports in EoSD stage 2)

Manipulation of vectors could be an interesting (albiet pretty overpowered) ability.
Power to use onmyodo (paper charm shikigami and the ofouda bullets and such)
Power to detect weaknesses
Manipulation of colour

(Touhou has no ninja because things have to grow to near extinction in the outside world to reach Gensokyo, and ninja are far too common to qualify. Protip: if there's no ninja in your line of sight, it's because he is above you. If there is one, it's not a real ninja, because ninja cannot be seen. Ninja.)

Hmm... your writing really does intrigued me. That means.... a tale like jourey to the west isnt popular in gensokyo?
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 11, 2011, 04:01:14 PM
Something else I would like to see would be Manipulation of State of Matter. To turn something liquid, solid or gas, or even plasma. It'd also allow the user to shift between solid, gaseous, liquid and energy form too.
Powers revolving around just a slime form would be interesting as well. The slime version might have assimilating powers by extension.

Weapon conjuration or creation would be neat. Either by forming weaponry from thin air, or by pulling it out of the character's body/form it from a fragment of the character's body (like hair). Or just turn limbs into weapons, of course. It'd fit well with a 'living suit of armor' character. Might result in Ghost n' Goblins gags, what with Arthur being able to throw an entire armory's worth of weapons.

While not listed as one of their abilities, a lot of characters can make clones. Suwako can definitely make a whole bunch of them.
Remilia can also do it, and many other stage 6 characters.


I would like to see manipulation of speech. Getting people to say the wrong things will be hilarious.

I believe you mean Suika, not Suwako, unless I'm missing something here.
Yuuka, Flandre and Parsee are also capable of creating clones.

Touhou have a kunai bullets, but there's no  a ninja yet? BLASPHEMY!
Hmmm..
Power to become "justin bieber"
Power to become "rebecca black"

(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6651/618pxjeanlucpicardfacep.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/618pxjeanlucpicardfacep.jpg/)
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: B?t V?n Tử on November 11, 2011, 05:58:43 PM
Thx to OkashiiKisei, i thought of Manipulation of Anti-Matter, well if u read Dan Brown's Angels and Demons, u will get how strong Anti-Matter than Nuclear Fusion (100% energy produced from the famous E=mc2)
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Zil on November 12, 2011, 12:41:01 AM
I believe you mean Suika, not Suwako, unless I'm missing something here.
Suwako makes a copy of herself in the Red Frog in Something-Era spell, (her first survival spell).
Thx to OkashiiKisei, i thought of Manipulation of Anti-Matter, well if u read Dan Brown's Angels and Demons, u will get how strong Anti-Matter than Nuclear Fusion (100% energy produced from the famous E=mc2)
I'm pretty sure antimatter is not an energy source; it just destroys whatever it comes into contact with, along with itself. Though I admit, I'm not very familiar with the theories regarding antimatter.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 12, 2011, 01:43:56 AM
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6651/618pxjeanlucpicardfacep.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/618pxjeanlucpicardfacep.jpg/)
What? too overpowered?
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 12, 2011, 02:02:16 AM
What? too overpowered?

No, too stupid.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Starxsword on November 12, 2011, 02:38:46 AM
@Okashiikisei:
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I believe you mean Suika, not Suwako, unless I'm missing something here.
I mean Suwako. She can clone herself infinitely or so she says. Her versus quote in Hisoutensoku:
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Gods can split themselves infinitely~
Ahh, it's a good time to trick those who live aboveground into confronting their deepest fears isn't it?
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 12, 2011, 02:30:52 PM
Manipulation of Mirror.
1) Can manipulate physics of the mirror, can shatter them and break the physics law involving mirror
2) Can reverse thing just like how a mirror usually does.
3) Can goes into mirror world and manipulate the world of mirror.
UNfortunately mirror power already had by SHikieiki

Irusia Megica
First-Class Master of House of tricks
Powers: Incredibly wealthy, High-level intelligence, great architecture, can perform world-class stage magic.
She has wealth and money. And she determined to perform a stage magic. Has many agent and secret followers. She can perform many tricks that is beyond human knowledge. One of recent tricks is that she can levitate the chair and even hop onto it as if she has supernatural. But the truth, she has many tricks such as the levitation under her sleeves. She recently heard about the gap to gensokyo was found. And that world filled with magic. She is amazed by the magic world, yet hate it because she prefers doing stage magic. So she sets up a house of tricks to the gensokyo world, to proof that stage magic is better than their own magic.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on November 12, 2011, 03:04:45 PM
Other than Game Mechanics and Troll Logic, this one's inspired by Dampierre:

Manipulation of Trickery
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Bias Bus on November 12, 2011, 03:16:05 PM
Manipulation of Fear/Terror.

The power to gain strength from hatred of others. In this sense, the one who has this power gains their strength from being that one guy (or in this case, girl) that everyone hates being around and just cannot stand. An example of this would be equivalent to how everyone feels about Excalibur in Soul Eater, only the one everyone grows annoyed with actually gets stronger from the power of 'lol u mad?'.

Hate on her all you want, she'll just get stronger because of it. Makes it especially bad if you take this out in the form of physical violence and try to beat'er like that. She is literally, the one annoyance that you won't get rid of.

I've also been thinking of Manipulation of Chemicals as of late for some reason.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 12, 2011, 03:56:41 PM
Chemical? eirin?
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Bias Bus on November 12, 2011, 05:58:50 PM
Eirin can create any kind of medicine/drug, yes.

But, I don't really count that as a manipulation of chemicals since what I have in mind is magically producing the chemical or manipulating it to turn it into something else. Eirin could use chemicals but, not magically control them, as far as I can tell..
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 12, 2011, 07:01:35 PM
Manipulation of Fear/Terror.

The power to gain strength from hatred of others. In this sense, the one who has this power gains their strength from being that one guy (or in this case, girl) that everyone hates being around and just cannot stand. An example of this would be equivalent to how everyone feels about Excalibur in Soul Eater, only the one everyone grows annoyed with actually gets stronger from the power of 'lol u mad?'.

Hate on her all you want, she'll just get stronger because of it. Makes it especially bad if you take this out in the form of physical violence and try to beat'er like that. She is literally, the one annoyance that you won't get rid of.

Basically, a school bully. Is that right?
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Post by: Bias Bus on November 12, 2011, 09:07:09 PM
You could call it that, yeah. Although, truth be told, I didn't really think of that until you mentioned it.
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Post by: Drake on November 12, 2011, 11:09:09 PM
Thx to OkashiiKisei, i thought of Manipulation of Anti-Matter, well if u read Dan Brown's Angels and Demons, u will get how strong Anti-Matter than Nuclear Fusion (100% energy produced from the famous E=mc2)
if you actually read books on science instead of books about conspiracy theories and the strong twisting of christianity then you would actually know how anti-matter works
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Post by: Excelsus on November 13, 2011, 03:56:03 AM
POwer to create pollution
Manipulation of Sand
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Post by: haoreos2 on November 13, 2011, 08:38:51 AM
The power to defy conventions, held by an extra stage male fairy who
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on November 13, 2011, 12:46:07 PM
Power to force people to do evil deeds.
This is probably the best ability for Mima the final boss for next touhou game.
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Post by: Sonae on November 13, 2011, 08:12:21 PM
I dont know what u mean by Manipulation of Ash, but i think it may similar to Suika ability.

Wouldn't be anything close

Ability to Turn into danmaku.
Be one hell of a troll in Extra Stage
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Post by: Kaisou on November 13, 2011, 10:10:11 PM
Ability to Turn into danmaku.
Be one hell of a troll in Extra Stage
Remilia sort of does that, doesn't she? I mean, she could turn into a lot of bats and bats are like danmaku in Gensokyo, right?

The abilities I want to see? Heh...
Manipulation of Blind Spots
Manipulation of Sound
Actual Invisibility
...That's pretty much it.
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Post by: Mimachiro on November 14, 2011, 12:22:07 AM
The ability to control other's abilities.

Just imagine someone like that facing off with Yukari, and her trying to gap switch herself with Ran, only to find her ability has been shut off. Such an ability would make it possible to crank someone else's abilities up to 11, like making Okuu literally blow herself up. Such a talent would have a lot of possibilities, ne?
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Post by: Skyler on November 14, 2011, 12:22:54 AM
I'd like to see a low-stage boss who has the power of photographic memory. Then they could appear in a much higher stage, extra maybe, and use your character's attack patterns. It could work better in a fighting game so that it's not too much like Satori's ability.
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Post by: ChocolateLily on November 14, 2011, 09:02:36 AM
I'd like to see a low-stage boss who has the power of photographic memory. Then they could appear in a much higher stage, extra maybe, and use your character's attack patterns. It could work better in a fighting game so that it's not too much like Satori's ability.

Hmm, well Akyuu doesn't appear in games but she has some sort of photographic memory. Well, does 'remember anything she sees' count?

Is there anyone who can manipulate amalgamation?
Or how about consuming something just by looking at it?
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Post by: Zap on November 14, 2011, 11:15:56 AM
I now add another idea that randomly entered my mentality.

The power to control the Acidic/Basic levels of a substance.
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Post by: Jett on November 15, 2011, 12:51:16 PM
I now add another idea that randomly entered my mentality.

The power to control the Acidic/Basic levels of a substance.

The power to turn milk into hot sauce?
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Post by: B?t V?n Tử on November 15, 2011, 09:04:03 PM
if you actually read books on science instead of books about conspiracy theories and the strong twisting of christianity then you would actually know how anti-matter works

LOL I actually studied about anti-matter before reading Dan Brown's, it just didn't interest me until i read that novel. I also know that anti-matter was first introduced in Star Trek when it is just a imaginary energy.

Well, I learned that anti-particle (such as positive electron) when contacts which normal particle will destroy each other and create a energy blast (like in this equation (e-) + (e+) -> Q) which the energy output is from the equation inb4. Consider this applied to matter level, anti-matter about 3g can worth some of nuclear bombs.

You may think Dan Brown's Novels are not real because he is not a scientist but he tried his best to imagine how anti-matter could become if it weren't handled well enough; clear example of bad handling new energy is Hiroshima Nuclear Bombing.

PS: I am Catholic Christian, and I like Brown's Da Vinci Code  for its thrilling.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Arcengal on November 16, 2011, 12:33:40 AM
Manipulation of manipulation.
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on November 16, 2011, 12:48:57 AM
Manipulation of manipulation.

HI PURVIS!




Ijiyatsu Purvis has exactly that power.
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Post by: Sonae on November 16, 2011, 12:57:10 AM
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Remilia sort of does that, doesn't she? I mean, she could turn into a lot of bats and bats are like danmaku in Gensokyo, right?

Considering in StB that she sends tons of bats to Aya. In which they not kill her, but spawn bullets themselves. I'd say bats aren't danmaku.

a true invisibilty would be interesting . You'd have to search the screen for them.

Manipulation of Lava
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Post by: ApharmdB on November 23, 2011, 04:13:02 AM
Considering how the popular perception of mathematics is these days where I am, how about a Youkai of Mathematics with the ability to make concrete any idea that has its basis in some mathematical result? Say hello to Fibonacci danmaku or geometric distortions of the danmaku playing field causing erratic movements and even warping around as she turns the area around you into the equivalent of a torus, or the Mobius strip (or worse, depending on your knowledge of the more exotic topological spaces.)

Personality-wise she'd be somewhat like Yukari and/or Patchy. Hey, Yukari's mathematical knowledge had to have come from somewhere. Might as well have a research buddy or fellow youkai to while the centuries away while bouncing ideas around.
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Post by: capt. h on November 23, 2011, 07:29:06 AM
Considering how the popular perception of mathematics is these days where I am, how about a Youkai of Mathematics with the ability to make concrete any idea that has its basis in some mathematical result? Say hello to Fibonacci danmaku or geometric distortions of the danmaku playing field causing erratic movements and even warping around as she turns the area around you into the equivalent of a torus, or the Mobius strip (or worse, depending on your knowledge of the more exotic topological spaces.)

Personality-wise she'd be somewhat like Yukari and/or Patchy. Hey, Yukari's mathematical knowledge had to have come from somewhere. Might as well have a research buddy or fellow youkai to while the centuries away while bouncing ideas around.

I like it. As a counterpart, I propose a youkai with the ability to make 0 equal to 1.

You can prove anything to be true by starting with a contradiction. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion)

As for spell cards:

"Danmaku is safe" - instead of dodging danmaku, you have to stay INSIDE the bullets to live and you die if you're outside the danmaku.

"Hot is cold" - suns that shoot ice danmaku

"Up is down" - controls remain the same directionally, but the player character faces and shoots towards the bottom of the screen instead of the top, and the life guage and boss reside at the bottom.

"Good luck is bad" - The bullets appear to travel randomly, and by chance there appears to be some large gaps in the formation (one of which being directly underneath the boss in the center of the screen). Then the character lasers the apparently safe zones.

"0 is 1" - The bullets begin moving in simple, organized patterns, then each stops mid flight and careens erratically (zigzags, lines, circles, elipses, triangle paths, bounce off the edges of the stage, etc.)
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Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 23, 2011, 04:05:59 PM
"Danmaku is safe" - instead of dodging danmaku, you have to stay INSIDE the bullets to live and you die if you're outside the danmaku.

Naut: *lots of bullets on screen* I can't see the background, too many safespots!

Also, yeah. I'm already designing a spellcard for a character I have with the following:
"Up is down" - controls remain the same directionally, but the player character faces and shoots towards the bottom of the screen instead of the top, and the life guage and boss reside at the bottom.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: iK on November 25, 2011, 12:25:24 AM
Well, I'll guess I'll just jump right in then.

Something I'd like to see is "Manipulation of Fury/Anger." Something along the lines of Parsee's ability, where the character them selves turn out to be quite angry in an introverted prospect.

I'd imagine some attacks doing something like using red bullets while making the screen fade in and out of red itself, or a single spellcard that makes the screen constantly slightly red. A tribute to those annoying red levels in HRtP.
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Post by: draganuv15 on November 25, 2011, 06:12:46 PM
The ability to defy logic. You know... like if my room is always dirty is logic, I can defy it and make it so it's always clean!

To make it so it's not overpowered, one law or piece of logic can only be changed at a time. And you can't destroy anything, directly
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Post by: Jett on November 28, 2011, 08:16:22 PM
The ability to defy logic. You know... like if my room is always dirty is logic, I can defy it and make it so it's always clean!

To make it so it's not overpowered, one law or piece of logic can only be changed at a time. And you can't destroy anything, directly

With Yukari's power over borders, Sanae's miracles, Remilia's manipulation of fate, Sakuya's time control, and Flandre's ability to destroy anything, you worry that ability to defy logic will be too overpowered?
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Post by: Kazero on December 01, 2011, 06:27:38 AM
The ability to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWMBWMaVv_0
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Post by: iK on December 01, 2011, 06:33:38 AM
The ability to worry about Nee-chan is a fearsome ability indeed.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 07, 2011, 03:12:40 AM
Inspired by a recent theme in Kingdom of Loathing: The ability of spontaneous candy generation.
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on December 07, 2011, 01:01:30 PM
Inspired by a recent theme in Kingdom of Loathing: The ability of spontaneous candy generation.

Reminds me of one of the more gory deaths in Umineko...

Candy generation in stomach...
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Post by: Grimarg on December 07, 2011, 01:52:41 PM
The ability to interfere would be cool, but a little too overpowered, just imagine, you could interfere with someone else ability, enhancing it, or canceling it, you could even turn it against themselves
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Post by: Vael on December 09, 2011, 06:01:08 AM
How about someone who could manipulate the physical world? Transforming a rock into a spear for example.
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Post by: iK on December 09, 2011, 07:06:32 AM
"Transmogrification" (Mamizou's ability) kind of already is that by definition, and Nue's ability is something very similar in practice.

How about control of Metal? Patchouli's only a generalist so she doesn't have full control over the element, and it could make for some interesting bullets and spells.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 11, 2011, 03:57:48 AM
Dragon Shouts :P

Guess what happened on my youtube spree.
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Post by: haoreos2 on December 11, 2011, 04:12:20 AM
Take out the skyrim from that idea, and you get Kotodama, or words of power, or true names.

Not sure how it would fit as an ability itself, but I like the idea of a boss using Kuji-kiri for her spell cards.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 11, 2011, 04:14:05 AM
Ability to overload with constant philosophical verbose.

That will be hilarious.
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Post by: Vael on December 14, 2011, 10:44:08 AM
That true name thing sounds like a Christian Exorcist at work...hmm...*files away idea*

What about one who can creating independent spaces (think kekkai) with their own unique qualities?
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Post by: Irate Researchers on December 16, 2011, 07:13:10 AM
Creation of sealing spells
Manipulation of machines.  (Too bad Gensoyoko has hardly any machines)
The ability to ignore abilities and magic.  (the spellcards, they do nothing!)
Nullification of abilities.
The knowledge of every spell that does and will exist.
Manipulation of youkai.

and there you have my entire roster of a Damakfu game's abilities...
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 16, 2011, 07:45:46 AM
Dumping your OC's powers Irate, shouldn't you stay in DeviantArt?

Cartoon Physics**
Pasta Manipulation
Standard Status Effects
Peerless Marksmanship (Basically a gun version of Youmu)
Troll Logic**
Manifestation of Hatred (and other negative, non-lust emotions) into Power*
Gain power from taking others' memories
Status boost whenever user is wearing something 'cute'
Game Mechanics**
Comedy Physics(Different from cartoons)
Plot Armour
Ability to create a portal by 'ripping' the fabric of time and space like some cat*
Ability to manifest conscience into a Persona*
Quantum Acceleration(Go really really fast, sometimes at the expense of reality)
Tears as Danmaku(Isaac lol)
Relfect abilities back into them
To invert a Mary Sue and/or something overpowered to a pathetic pile of...indignity.
Power to breathe life into cartoons
Go really fast at the expense of stamina...fast*
Ability to change genders*
Manipulate followers (Alice but people)
Moderator Administrator Powers
SysAdmin (http://xkcd.com/705/)
Ability to initiate curb-stomp battles
Ability to call support from others
Ability to call support from the outside world
TVTropes


Take that Irate, how did you get in here?

*Abilities of my fictional self (I wish)
**Previously Mentioned.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on December 16, 2011, 08:11:05 AM
Dumping your OC's powers Irate, shouldn't you stay in DeviantArt?


Take that Irate, how did you get in here?

By research, of course...

I'm not constrained to DA...  otherwise I'd never have my fact stockpile.


...Technically they are FCs...
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Post by: Kazero on December 16, 2011, 09:28:02 AM
manipulation of comedy physics...
Win!
just pull stuff out of nowhere and your danmaku are banana peels!
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Post by: Vael on December 16, 2011, 09:46:40 AM
The ability to turn what you touch into an Illusion.
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Post by: Damien on December 16, 2011, 10:21:59 AM
Take out the skyrim from that idea, and you get Kotodama, or words of power, or true names.

Not sure how it would fit as an ability itself, but I like the idea of a boss using Kuji-kiri for her spell cards.

Come to think of it, some of the Dragonshouts have resemblance to the powers that Gensokyo girls had.
For Example :
- FUS RO DAH (Unrelenting Force), fires a shockwave of force energy that stuns and pushes enemies
  or object away
  Resemblance : Kyouko Kasodani, Power to reflect sound waves anyone?
- KRII LUN AUS (Marked for Death ), Reduces health of the target to zero
  Resemblance : Yuyuko Saigyouji, Power to cause death to mortals. The different that the Dragon 
  shout drain the health slowly, while Yuyuko cause an instant death
- FEIM ZI GRON (Become Ethereal), immune to any kind of damage for short period of time.
  Resemblance : Reimu Hakurei, FANTASY HEAVEN, enough said.
- TIID KLO UL (Slow Time), cause time to slow
  Resemblance : Sakuya Izayoi, manipulates time.
- SU GRAH DUN (Elemental Fury), can use your weapon to strike faster
  Resemblance : Youmu Konpaku, 200 Yojana in 1 slash. The Dragon shout uses the lesser speed version of it.
- IIZ SLEN NUS (Ice Form, freezes the enemy) and FO KRAH DIIN (Frost Breath).
  Resemblance : Cirno, manipulates ice

Just imagine, the character with said power travel trough Gensokyo, learning the words of power trough the girls.
For Example, the character learn power of word PORTAL,BORDER,BOUNDARY from Yukari. After that, he/she able to travel everywhere trough the portal using said words.
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Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on December 17, 2011, 12:39:17 AM
The ability to turn what you touch into an Illusion.

Except everything in Gensokyo is ALREADY an Illusion.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on December 17, 2011, 01:18:46 AM
The ability to create Youkai.
The ability to control storylines.
Manipulation of rules.
The ability to delete objects from existence.
Manipulation of fruit.
The ability to create structures at will.
Manipulation of dreams.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 17, 2011, 01:26:45 AM
The ability to create Youkai.
The ability to control storylines.
Manipulation of rules.
The ability to delete objects from existence.
Manipulation of fruit.
The ability to create structures at will.
Manipulation of dreams.
>I....dunno about that.

>Author Powers

>Either that's Troll Logic, Defiance, Police Powers, Law Enforcement, Lawyering, Yukari.

>Yukari or Cartoon Physics with a giant pencil eraser.

>Okay you had me there, but pasta is more delicious.

>Yukari, Nitori with nanotech, manifestation of X into Y?

>Wasn't there a touhou who can do that? In the PC-98 era?
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Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on December 17, 2011, 01:39:05 AM
Actually, Yukari CAN pretty much deny the existance of an object just by manipulating borders. Don't ask why she would do that.
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Post by: Sonae on December 17, 2011, 01:51:40 AM
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Go really fast at the expense of stamina...fast*
Superacceleration
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Plot Armour
Reimu
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The ability to control storylines.
Narrator insert. Cue ZUN as a boss.
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The ability to create structures at will.
Suwako can technically do that. As can Patchy i think.
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Manipulation of dreams.
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>Wasn't there a touhou who can do that? In the PC-98 era?
No. No PC-98s were given unique abilities. You're thinking of Yumeko, whose name means Child of Dream(s)
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on December 17, 2011, 02:02:55 AM
The ability to create Youkai.

In Japanese mythology, powerful gods could spawn lesser gods and mighty youkai from their own blood, tears, sweat, the water that they bathe in and many more bodily fluids and the like. These spawned gods and youkai were usually unintentional creations.  In the Japanese mythology-based game Okami very powerful youkai can also spawn youkai from their blood and corpses (Orochi's blood spawned Crimson Helm,
Yami's power created several youkai post-death in Okamiden
). So, it is possible that the more powerful residents of Gensokyo can create youkai.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 17, 2011, 02:09:45 AM
Wait, if what you said is true, then there's a possibility of the miserable fecal youkai?
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on December 17, 2011, 04:21:32 AM
Wait, if what you said is true, then there's a possibility of the miserable fecal youkai?

Why is that the first thing you think of?

Ability to transmogrify others.
Manipulation of missing objects.
Manipulation of gemstones.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on December 17, 2011, 04:27:25 AM
Why is that the first thing you think of?

Manipulation of missing objects.
Because I'm a bit of a pessimist.

And don't you think that's a bit of a paradox? By manipulating them, you know it's there, and they're no longer missing, and therefore you lose control over them.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on December 17, 2011, 04:38:24 AM
Because I'm a bit of a pessimist.

And don't you think that's a bit of a paradox? By manipulating them, you know it's there, and they're no longer missing, and therefore you lose control over them.

Knowing they exist doesn't make them missing.  If I lose a sock, then said character has control over it.  even if they find it, I'm still missing my sock...  It's any missing object, so this would be like...  a sock gnome or something.

Ability to destroy plant life.
Ability to produce chemical gas.
Ability to access parallel universes.
Ability to bring images to life. (pair this with the one below for some real fun)
The ability to create images directly from the mind.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 17, 2011, 06:43:20 AM
My turn!!

1. Medicine, Wriggle.
2. Medicine, Cirno at the burrito stand.
3. Yukari, because she can.
4. Actually that's quite a broader version of cartoon revival.
5. Umm....Ruukoto/VIVIT with a printer?

Cartoonist Regeneration(via drawing materials)
Ability to breathe (One character has the useless ability to talk, right?)
Costume-specific  Ability-mimic
Ability to emit sparkles
Bullet Time and Valve Time
Illogical Culinary Prowess
Phlebotinum-dependent [insert ability here]

Macgyvering? Can anyone do that?
Meme-dependent ability.



By now the thread has exhausted everything ZUN can come up with.
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Post by: haoreos2 on December 17, 2011, 09:13:56 AM
By now the thread has exhausted everything ZUN can come up with.

Oh, I wouldn't say that. This is the guy that has developed dozens of unique characters, most of which have a unique name, stage, and theme, hundreds of bullet patterns, and enough expanded material for a wiki binge.

Plus, if you only look at ideas that ZUN might've considered, you only get about three roster's worth.
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Post by: Excelsus on December 17, 2011, 09:24:15 AM
- Archery
- Gunnery
- Ninjutsu
- POwer to steal happiness
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Post by: Vael on December 17, 2011, 09:50:05 AM
- POwer to steal happiness

...I thought the Hollywood Execs already had that power.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on December 17, 2011, 11:05:32 AM
Lol!

Here's a power: Censorship.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Starxsword on December 17, 2011, 05:50:54 PM
For some reason why you say censorship, it makes me think of this.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:Th125-ex-1.jpg
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Tengukami on December 17, 2011, 08:39:32 PM
I know I've said this before, but when linking directly to images on the Touhou wiki, all you're giving others is a 403 error if they haven't visited the wiki first. Please link instead to the page the image is on.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: haoreos2 on December 18, 2011, 12:02:39 AM
@Tengukami: 403: Forbidden sounds like censorship to me  :V

In all srsnss, try looking at http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Double_Spoiler then replacing the URL with Starx's link. Worked for me
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Post by: Tengukami on December 18, 2011, 12:05:51 AM
@Tengukami: 403: Forbidden sounds like censorship to me  :V

In all srsnss, try looking at http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Double_Spoiler then replacing the URL with Starx's link. Worked for me

Like I said, direct linking to images does not work without visiting the page first. And the image URL tells us nothing about where to go on the Wiki in order to get the cookies to see the image.

So yes, in the future, just link to the Wiki page, not the image. Thank you.
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Post by: Starxsword on December 18, 2011, 12:09:24 AM
I thought it worked, because I clicked on it to double check, but I guess not. I modified the link and hopefully it is correctly done this time.

I clicked on it just at first and I get that 403 message.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 18, 2011, 12:10:18 AM
Yay!! Got it! But really, think of the Danmaku difficulty (bullets censored by something you cannot see them clearly).
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Post by: haoreos2 on December 18, 2011, 12:12:36 AM
Is that so? Wonder why it worked when I tried it just now, then; Starx's link just showed the 403 error, but when I visited the double spoiler page, it started working fine.

In any case, http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Double_Spoiler/Spell_Cards/Stage_EX image number one.
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Post by: iK on December 18, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
I can't imagine it'd be much different from Nue's darkness clouds, unless the big censor bars were ALSO danmaku.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 18, 2011, 12:17:07 AM
Which would be hilarious.
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Post by: Tengukami on December 18, 2011, 02:02:30 AM
Is that so? Wonder why it worked when I tried it just now, then; Starx's link just showed the 403 error, but when I visited the double spoiler page, it started working fine.

This happens because in order to load images directly, you need to have the site's cookies on your machine. To do that, you need to visit one of the site's pages. So if you try to visit the direct image link without having visited the site's page, you'll get the 403. Once you visit the site's page, and have the site's cookies on your comp, then the image will load.

Anyway! Just link to the page and tell us what image to check out. Sorry about the derail, hope this is clear now. I've updated the TARC rules sticky accordingly.
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Post by: haoreos2 on December 18, 2011, 02:38:23 AM
Ah, I thought you meant what I was suggesting wouldn't work in your last post.

I'd like to see the ability to reflect magic: have spellcards where the shooting the boss causes your own bullets to be reflected in an arc (obviously as reasonably slow bullets, not the instant ones the heroine uses), others where the boss summons allies or something from the bottom of the screen that shoot upward at her, and their bullets get reflected back down again. Would still take damage from being shot, just means you may have to think about whether you should perhaps take your finger off the shooting key once in a while. Alternatively, have her only reflect danmaku periodically, and you have to damage her in between immunities, in which case it could be a timeout-centric fight like Yoshika.

May be too similar to the echo youkai though
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Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on December 18, 2011, 03:40:09 AM
I can't imagine it'd be much different from Nue's darkness clouds, unless the big censor bars were ALSO danmaku.

 Or if the spellcard name were censoring the danmaku. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oFv3PtK3FAg#t=526s)
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 19, 2011, 05:04:00 AM
Manipulation of gemstones.
I really like this. You could make all kinds of fun danmaku patterns with this motif. :D
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Post by: Irate Researchers on December 20, 2011, 05:41:20 PM
I really like this. You could make all kinds of fun danmaku patterns with this motif. :D

I'd think they'd look rather lovely, myself...
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Post by: PefectoFreeze~ on December 20, 2011, 07:51:15 PM
I really like this. You could make all kinds of fun danmaku patterns with this motif. :D

Defiantly agreeing with this right here.
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Post by: Morshu11111 on December 21, 2011, 07:47:47 AM
Here are a few abilities I thought of:
-Manipulation of light
-Manipulation of emotion
-Ability to change cell structure
-Ability to make someone's worst fears real
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 21, 2011, 12:23:08 PM
1. Sunny Milk(Or was it Luna Child?)
2. Koishi
3. Erm..Nue/Mamizou/Evolution-youkai
4. Reisen, though, if you really want physically existing? That's original.
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Post by: ふとくていなねこじょおう on December 21, 2011, 08:04:25 PM
I'd love to see an artist youkai, one who can  bring her pictures to life, manipulation of paint, etc.
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Post by: Morshu11111 on December 22, 2011, 03:24:31 AM
i4. Reisen, though, if you really want physically existing? That's original.
I did mean phisically existing.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on December 22, 2011, 04:16:13 AM
1. Sunny Milk(Or was it Luna Child?)
2. Koishi
3. Erm..Nue/Mamizou/Evolution-youkai
4. Reisen, though, if you really want physically existing? That's original.

Koishi cannot control the emotions of others, she reads them.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 22, 2011, 11:09:12 AM
Oh? I thought, unlike Satori, Koishi can manipulate what she detects. And besides, it's the subconscious, and I'm subconsciously supporting her right now.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on December 22, 2011, 08:49:33 PM
Oh? I thought, unlike Satori, Koishi can manipulate what she detects. And besides, it's the subconscious, and I'm subconsciously supporting her right now.

If that were the case, she'd gain control of the player character and screw up your ability to dodge...
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Post by: Tengukami on December 22, 2011, 09:25:55 PM
I'd like to see some abilities that would be useful in my daily life:

- To show up late for work without anyone noticing.
- To borrow books from others and have people be like "yeah, take your time returning it, there's totally no rush"
- To show up at bus stops exactly one minute before they arrive.
- To never get a busy signal when calling someone.
- To have unlimited bandwidth.
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Post by: XephyrEnigma on December 22, 2011, 09:58:27 PM
I'd like to see some abilities that would be useful in my daily life:

- To show up late for work without anyone noticing.
- To borrow books from others and have people be like "yeah, take your time returning it, there's totally no rush"
- To show up at bus stops exactly one minute before they arrive.
- To never get a busy signal when calling someone.
- To have unlimited bandwidth.

I want 3, 4, and 5 here SO HARD right now.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on December 23, 2011, 01:23:33 AM
- To show up at bus stops exactly one minute before they arrive.
- To never get a busy signal when calling someone.
- To have unlimited bandwidth.

This.
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Post by: haoreos2 on December 23, 2011, 01:25:03 AM
If that were the case, she'd gain control of the player character and screw up your ability to dodge...

"Manipulation of the subconscious" is her ability, although we haven't got much in the way of canon as to what she's capable of with it. Also, Danmaku is a game, your argument is invalid: Sakuya doesn't put a knife one pixel away from your hitbox when she freezes time, does she?

@Tengukami: if I had tewi's power, number three would be the primary use of it. Heck, even if it was five minutes. Two hour commutes are weeeeeeeak.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on December 23, 2011, 03:53:42 AM
"Manipulation of the subconscious" is her ability, although we haven't got much in the way of canon as to what she's capable of with it. Also, Danmaku is a game, your argument is invalid: Sakuya doesn't put a knife one pixel away from your hitbox when she freezes time, does she?

If she was serious about it, she would...  but I stand corrected, still.
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Post by: Skyler on December 24, 2011, 03:09:47 AM
The ability to enter someone's dreams would be interesting.
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Post by: Starxsword on December 24, 2011, 03:18:56 AM
Yukari can sort of do that. I assume Yuuka and probably some other touhou characters can do that too... From Perfect Momento
in Strict Sense:
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It's said that this ability is not limited to physical space, but also applies to pictures, others' dreams, and even stories.
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Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on December 24, 2011, 05:51:20 AM
Hmm...
How about manipulation of indecisiveness?
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Post by: haoreos2 on December 24, 2011, 05:57:10 AM
Shoot one laser at the enemy, make them fret over which way to dodge, laugh when they get hit. Trololololol.
Sometimes I feel many characters have that power.
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Post by: iK on December 24, 2011, 08:25:08 AM
Tojiko's lightning bolts come to mind.

I know Tenshi already has something of the sort, but what about control of clouds? It might be neat to see a character riding on a cloud like Goku, or clouds crashing together to make tornadoes, rain, etc patterns.
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Post by: Zil on December 24, 2011, 08:48:09 AM
I think Kotohime rides on a cloud. At least, I hope it's a cloud. (It seems to have bloody fangs or something.)
Though she doesn't manipulate clouds. I don't think there's anyone who does that specifically.
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Post by: Starxsword on December 24, 2011, 11:40:18 PM
So, Unzan is not a cloud?
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Post by: Zil on December 25, 2011, 12:59:24 AM
Is he manipulating himself? I guess you could say that. He doesn't do anything that feels cloudy though, like lightning or rain. He just punches stuff.
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Post by: Excelsus on December 26, 2011, 02:39:46 PM
Ability to make meme become real
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Post by: Irate Researchers on December 26, 2011, 09:01:37 PM
The ability to create replicas.
Manipulation of celestial bodies.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on December 26, 2011, 11:08:53 PM
Or, instead of something specific like manipulation of Rabbits, how about something general? Like....manipulation of mammals?
(poor example)
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Post by: Excelsus on December 27, 2011, 12:52:44 AM
We already have Ibara kasen.
Hmmm,...:
- ABility to command thousand people as in a war
- High Intelligence and proficiency in war strategy -> Good for Loli Zhuge Liang.
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Post by: Wendy the Creeper on December 28, 2011, 02:40:34 PM
How about:
Being able to learn everything about a person or object just by looking at it(even if the person who is looked at doesn't know everything about themselves)?
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Post by: draganuv15 on December 28, 2011, 11:32:32 PM
How about:
Being able to learn everything about a person or object just by looking at it(even if the person who is looked at doesn't know everything about themselves)?

Rinnosuke can actually do that, well with objects.

The two powers I would like the most would be...

The ability to make a container have infinite storage.
The ability to mimic any animal or mythological beast.
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Post by: Desu_Cake on December 29, 2011, 12:33:45 AM
The ability to get drunk without the need for alcohol. Enjoy nights out without the hangover in the morning!
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Post by: Wendy the Creeper on December 29, 2011, 12:53:07 AM
I'd like to see some abilities that would be useful in my daily life:

- To show up late for work without anyone noticing.
- To borrow books from others and have people be like "yeah, take your time returning it, there's totally no rush"
- To show up at bus stops exactly one minute before they arrive.
- To never get a busy signal when calling someone.
- To have unlimited bandwidth.
No. 2 would actually be very useful for Marisa, especially if it could apply to everything else in the world  XD.
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Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on December 29, 2011, 09:19:39 PM
Sounds fun! Let me try it out people. I?ve put explanations to each ability accordingly, in a PMiSS fashion. I think this style of text is easier to compreheend and it facilitates the reading. Enjoy!


1: Ability to Drain the Power from Starlight

-The power of a youkai with this ability depends on the number of stars in the night sky.

-Naturally, this youkai gets weaker if exposed to sunlight during day time, or if the night sky is clouded.

-While fully bathed by starlight, this youkai takes the opportunity to challenge tough opponents. The best way to exterminate it is at morning, while it?s weaker and not exposed to the stars.

-The stars increases it?s power level greatly, not only increasing it?s magical power, but also making him/her faster, physically stronger, and much more resistant and tolerant to damage.

-It?s said that when there are over 2000 stars in the night sky, this youkai is at it?s peak. Making it possible to generate a massive starlight beam that can obliterate a whole city. The destructive power is greater than a master spark powered up by the mini hakkero.

2: Ability to Manipulate Regularity

-One with this ability can manipulate the average number between two power levels.

-For example, let?s say the owner is at level 150, and he/she is facing an opponent that?s at level 210. During the fight, both participants would become level 105, since:
N=(x+y)/2
N=(150+60)/2
N=210/2
N=105

-One would think that this ability is really handy, but it has a real nasty side effect.

-The person can?t control this ability, so, even if she faces a weaker opponent than him/her, both would be forced to hit the average power level number. If she could control this ability, one would only use it when it?s convenient. And it would be way too cheap.

-Even if he/she is at level 999, and her opponent is at level 1, both would automatically become level 500 after being engaged into a fight.

-Weaker and stupid fighters would normally think ?That?s my chance! I?ll get into a fight just to become stronger!? However, after the end of the fight, both participants would return to their original power levels. So, the effect is only temporary.

-Even being a temporary effect, the sensation of becoming instantly stronger for weaker beings is marvelous, and they feel a lot of ecstasy and excitement.

-Depending on the strength of the person with this skill, everyone in a radius of like 1km would suffer this effect.

-It doesn?t matter how many people are there, everyone inside the radius would suffer it. For example, let?s say there are 4 fighters inside the radius, one is at level 786, other on 253 and the two others at 465 and 9 respectively. Everyone would become level 378, since:
N=(x+y+m+z)/4
N=(786+253+465+9)/4
N=1513/4
N=378

-The formula used to determinate the level is the same used to find average number in mathematics.

3: Manipulation of Taste

-It?s a rather lame and useless ability, I?d imagine a fairy having it.

-Manipulation of taste is simple, the person with it can change the taste of any food to it?s personal liking.

-It?s possible to make a Sausage taste sugary, an ice cream taste salty, a lemon taste bitter, a chicory taste sour? etc. There?s no limitation to this skill, the person can just let it?s imagination flow and do whatever with the taste of something.

-This really comes in hand if you only have food that you dislike but you don?t want to stay hungry, so simply change the taste.

-It?s possible to change the taste of drinks as well.

4: Manipulation of Phase Transition

-A person with this ability is able to produce the transformation of a thermodynamic system from one phase or state of matter to another.

-It?s possible to freely manipulate all of the 8 phase transitions (vaporization, condensation, freezing, melting, deposition, sublimation, ionization and deionization)

-Vaporization is the transition from liquid to gas. Any kind of liquid can be instantly vaporized by this person by applying intense heat pressure.

-Condensation is the transition from gas to liquid. The reverse of vaporization. This person is able to liquefy any gaseous substance by cooling and compressing the vapor to it?s saturation limit when the molecular density of the gas phase reaches it?s final margin.

-Freezing is the transition from liquid to solid. It?s possible to freeze any liquid by lowering enough it?s temperature until the freezing point.

-Melting is the transition from solid to liquid, the reverse process of freezing. The person can increase the internal energy of the solid substance by applying heat or pressure, causing it?s temperature to raise until the melting point.

-Deposition is the transition from gas to solid. The person can apply sub-freezing air into a gaseous substance, causing it to change directly into ice without becoming a liquid first. An exothermic phase transition.

-Sublimation is the transition from solid to gas. It?s possible to make a solid substance sublime in air by making the endothermic transformation occur at temperatures and pressures below the aforementioned substance?s triple point, without becoming a liquid first.

-Ionization is the transition from gas to plasma. The person can cause collision of the substance with ions of the gas that are present in the ion source, by making electrons enter the substance and thus ionizing the gas.

-Deionization is the transition from plasma to gas. The reverse process of ionization, used for removal of ions from a substance.

-Someone with this ability can use it for a variety of things, it?s also possible to cause phase transition of it?s own body, thus, changing it into water to camouflage into a lake or a river, or into vapor to camouflage in the clouds? etc. Which is very handy for escaping purposes.

-Even though it?s a good ability, it has it?s limitations. There?s no possibility to make impossible phase transitions such as liquid to plasma or plasma to solid. So, it?s still restricted to regular chemical processes.

5: Manipulation of Armors

-Very similar to Alice?s manipulation of Dolls, but with armors instead.

-However, differently from Alice?s ability, this one REALLY gives life to inanimate armors. They won?t speak like the dolls, but can freely move on their own and will protect their master at all costs, even if that includes sacrificing themselves.

-Living armors are stronger than semi-living dolls. However, it?s much more expensive to craft them, so, it?s difficult to have many under control. Most people with this ability are excellent blacksmiths.

-A big disadvantage is that unlike the dolls, armors can rust if exposed to rain. And once they are rusty, they basically die and can?t return to life anymore.

-The power level of the armors depends on the rank of the metal they are made of. Platinum armors are the strongest, but the most difficult to have and to accept their master?s orders. Golden armors are the second strongest, silver armors are of medium strength and bronze or regular steel armors are the cheapest, easiest to control and the most abundant.

-Even though they are armors, once they are brought to life, it?s not possible to wear them anymore.

6: Ability to Feed on Souls

-A youkai with this ability has souls as it?s primary and only diet.

-They are able to instantly remove the soul of a living person and eat it in order to nourish themselves.

-If they are deprived of souls for a long time, they would feel the same sensation of hungriness like a regular human would feel without food. And it also can bring headache.

-A single soul can nourish much more than normal food, but those youkai generally have a huge appetite. So, they must eat a lot of them.

-Once they are nourished, they suffer a slight rise on their power level, and the effect is permanent. So, many of those youkai are greed for power and will eat as many souls as they can.

-Also, they can inherit part of the abilities of the target?s soul. For example, by eating a soul of a kappa or other aquatic youkai, they will instantly learn how to swim even if they couldn?t do that before. By eating the soul of a fire or ice youkai, they?d get more tolerant to heat or cold respectively. By eating an insect youkai?s, they?d lose their fear and disgust of bugs. A poison manipulator youkai?s soul would make them immune to poison and venom? etc.

-Even so, they must take it easy and not eat too much at once, otherwise the huge amount of energy gathered can make their bodies explode.

-Regular food like meat or vegetables is highly poisonous for this kind of youkai, so, they must avoid them at all costs.

-That said, you can usually see them on the netherworld. Since they can easily gather a vast amount of souls there.

7: Manipulation of Neural Oscillations

-One with this ability can shift up or down the brain waves of someone. The brain waves are known as alpha waves, beta, gamma, delta and theta.

-By shifting to alpha waves, it?s possible to make the person stay in a state of physical and mental relaxation with neural oscillations marked by a frequency activity of 8-12 Hertz. Although, the target is still aware of what is happened around. It?s a good wave frequency to have if you want to meditate but cannot due to the noise or agitation of the surroundings.

-By shifting to beta waves, it?s possible to put the target into a conscious alertness, or to make the person feel tense, agitated, afraid... etc, with a frequency range between 12-30 Hertz. By increasing until high beta wave frequencies, it?s possible to lead someone into a highly-unfocused, completely disorganized and stressful state of mind. It?s handy if you?re feeling sleepy but want to stay alert.

-Shifting to gamma waves (25-100 Hertz) causes the target to fall under quiet sleep or make it feel like it?s undertaking anesthesia. Shifting to neocortical gamma waves causes someone to fall into active sleep.

-Shifting to delta waves makes someone fall unconscious under deep sleep or catalepsy, with a neural oscillatory pattern between 0-4 Hertz. This is certainly the most useful during a fight, since you can instantly make your opponent fall asleep and defenseless. It?s even possible to make the target narcoleptic by slowing down it?s brain waves until they become acutely slow and irregular. After that, you can do whatever you want with his/her body while it?s completely vulnerable and unable to wake up.

-Shifting to the theta rhythm causes the target to fall into a state of somnolence characterized by reduced consciousness and with an oscillation frequency between 4-7 Hertz. Which makes the person drowsy, but not under a very deep stage of sleep.

-Needless to say, someone with this ability would NEVER go insomniac, narcoleptic, unwantedly sleepy or unwantedly awake. Since it would be able to manipulate it?s own neural oscillations in a conventional manner.

-(?Maybe Reisen can do all of that with her manipulation of waves)

8: Manipulation of Spores

-What youkai would have this skill? The answer is obvious, a mushroom youkai.

-Lesser life forms can mature into youkai after a prolonged time. Wriggle is an example, probably she was just an ordinary firefly that later matured into a humanshape insect. The same rule is applied to fungi. In other words, they are able to evolve into youkai after living enough.

-Different spores are able to produce different effects, and depending on the level of the youkai, the intensity of the effect is stronger or weaker.

-Paralyzing spores directly interfere into the victim?s motor cortex. Making it?s body to feel numb and unable to make any sort of movement. It?s greatly useful during a fight.

-Sleeping spores contains anesthetic compounds such as desflurane or sevoflurane fused with nitrous oxide that leads the victim into a reversible loss of awareness.

-Poisonous spores contain lethal phosphorus nerve agents that are responsible for attacking the nervous system. This type of spore leads to contraction of pupils, increased salivation, convulsions, uncontrolled urination and consequent death by asphyxiation, since the control over respiratory muscles is destroyed. By far the most dangerous type of youkai spores.

-Aphrodisiac spores contain bremelanotide compounds that are able to increase the target?s libido, leading to involuntary arousal. Increased blood pressure is a side effect. <-(This sounds like something from kenkou cross? monster girl encyclopedia)

-The best way to avoid undesired sporaceous effects, is simply not inhaling them. But during the heat of the fight this is extremely hard, since they are widespread.

9: Manipulation of Directions

-Have you ever played a game with an annoying enemy that reverses the controls of directional buttons? Ganon from oracle of season/ages is an example. Halfway through the fight, he will change the room you are fighting into a pulsing-blue theme, reversing the directional buttons. In Castlevania Bloodlines (Stage 5) if you get hit by the pollen released by red flowers during the stage?s beginning, the player?s horizontal controls are reversed.

-Manipulation of directions does something similar. It affects the combination of body movements produced with kinematic and kinetic force. In other words, it reverses your motor coordination.

-If you want to move to the left, your body will act against your will and move to the right. If you want to climb up ladder, you?ll climb it down instead. If you want to punch someone with your right fist, you?ll punch him/her with the left fist involuntarily.

-The solution to this problem is pretending that you want to move in the opposite direction, so, if you want to move to the right, you?ll have to move to the left, if you want to lift your left leg, simply lift the right one instead. Similar to how it?s done on games, you just have to press the opposite directional button.

-However, It?s not so easy to do that. Just imagine you being used to your natural, non-reversed motor coordination for years, it?s not easy to quickly readapt to the changes, and it?d take years of experience.

-Especially during the heat of a fight when you need to move extremely quickly and have good reflexes, it?d be completely impossible to do the right moves and control your motor coordination adequately. Which would make anyone do awkward movements instead, making you be a laughing-stock to your opponent.

-Thank goodness this effect is only temporary, because if it were permanent, anyone would go insane.

-It?s possible to reverse the direction of nature environments as well, such as the flowing of a river (If it?s flowing to north, you can make it run to south), wind currents (Such as making the wind blow to east instead of west) and so on. It?s even possible to reverse the flow of a waterfall, making it run upside-down.

-?Manipulation of Directions? sounds unthreatening at first, but it?s actually quite a dangerous ability.

10: Ability to Manipulate the Chemical Properties of Metals

-Which this ability, it?s able to change the properties of any metal with a mere touch.

-For example, you can change the chemical elements of cheap, inexpensive metals such as copper or aluminum into elements which constitutes noble metals, such as gold or platinum.

-Basically, the chemicals components of a target metal are instantly replaced by the ones you wish to. For example, by changing copper into gold, the ?Cu? elements of the former would be changed into ?Au? elements of the latter.

-One with this ability cannot create any metal out of thin air. It?s only possible to change the chemical compositions of an already existent metal.

-It?s easy to get rich with this ability for obvious reasons. But one can also do other functions, for example, if you need a metal with high electrical conductivity, just make silver. If you need one with high heat resistance, make Tungsten. If you want a corrosion resistant one, make Iridium. And so on.

-It?s even possible to make alloys with that.

11: Manipulation of Ecosphere

-This ability changes atmospheric and astronomical features of any planet in order to make it favorable to host life.

-What makes a planet habitable is essentially the availability of H2O, a significant mass to certificate the presence of a substantial atmosphere, a decent spinning rate, moderate distances from it?s central star (which by the way can?t be too massive nor too small) and the presence of oxygen.

-Beyond the outer edge of an ecosphere, a planet will be too cold to produce H20 on it?s surface, since any water there would freeze. A planet closer to it?s star than the inner edge of the ecosphere would be too hot and any water present would vaporize away. With this ability it?s possible to manipulate the astronomical units from a planet and it?s central star, which is one of the factors that leads to planetary habitability. Atmospheric pressure is manipulable as well.

-Another possibility is making the orbit of a planet continuously habitable. Most planets have roughly circular orbits. But some have eccentric ones. With this it?s possible to correct the orbital eccentricity of a planet, causing It to permanently spend it?s orbit inside the ecosphere.

-Huge amounts of stellar flare activity can be dangerous for a planet. The radiation would erode the atmosphere of a planet without a strong magnetic field. With this it?s possible to increase the intensity of a planetary magnetic field.

-The lack of an axial tilt in a planet would result in a lack of seasons. This would generate much colder poles and an intensely hot equator, eventually causing the planet?s water to boil away. Another possibility is that the planet?s day would be synchronized with the year, causing one of the halves of the planet to continuously face the star while the other half would be constantly frozen. The ability makes it possible to manipulate the angle between a planet?s rotational axis and the perpendicular line to it?s orbital plane.

-It?s also possible to change atmospheric compositions of a planet, like changing the prominent chemical components of Jupiter?s atmosphere (Hydrogen and Helium) into Nitrogen and Oxygen, thus making it habitable like the Earth.

-Naturally, owners of this ability have particularly high resistance to chemical poisoning, so, they are able to produce atmospheric gaseous molecules such as helium to attack their opponents. Breathing in pure helium deprives the body of oxygen, like if you?re holding your breath. If you can?t breathe, you?d start to die soon, since your body would exhaust the supply of oxygen stored in the blood. Helium hastens up this procedure, when the gas fills your lungs, it creates a diffusion gradient that washes out the oxygen. As such, each breath of helium would suck more oxygen level out of your system in a matter of seconds.

12: Manipulation of Emotions

-One with this ability can fully play with the target?s mind and heart, in order to internally change it?s emotions.

-The owner of this skill is accompanied by 4 spheres of different colors, each one representing a different primary emotion. (Yellow = Joy / Green = Fear / Blue = Sadness / Red = Anger).

-By combining compatible spheres, it?s possible to produce more advanced emotions. [Yellow + Green = Lime (Trust) / Green + Blue = Cyan (Surprise) / Blue + Red = Purple (Disgust) / Red + Yellow = Orange (Anticipation)]

-For example, in case one is using the red sphere, feelings of anger will be introduced into the target. Depending on the sphere that?s being used by the master of this ability, different emotions are developed by the victim.

-Usage of the red sphere as mentioned before, increases the person?s heart rate, blood pressure and levels of adrenaline/noradrenaline. Making him/her aggressive and irritated. Decreasing the sphere?s tension causes the target to feel annoyed. Increasing the tension makes it suffer intense rage, and increasing it further leads someone into an uncontrollable and turbulent rampage.

-The yellow sphere makes the target feel happiness and extreme cheerfulness. Decreasing the tension makes it feel serene, and increasing the tension makes it feel ecstatic. Increasing it further drives someone into a euphoric frenzy.

-The green sphere makes the target generate an increased response in the amygdala, making it feel afraid. Decreasing the tension makes it feel apprehensive and increasing the tension makes it feel a sensation of dread and terror. Increasing it even further leads to horror.

-The blue sphere makes the person feel the emotional pain of sadness. Decreasing the tension makes it feel melancholic and pensive. Increasing the tension makes the victim activate the anterior cingulate cortex and provoke a poor functional connection between the ACC and amygdala activity, resulting into a feeling of grief. Increasing the tension further leads to depression/heartbreak.

-The lime sphere provokes feelings of trust. Decreased tension provokes acceptance and increased tension produces a feeling of admiration. Increasing it further leads your target into veneration and love.

-The cyan sphere makes someone surprised by creating an extremely fast response into the target?s mind, reaching the Pons within 3 to 8 milliseconds. Decreased tension makes one turn away from focus of attention, causing distraction. Increased tension causes extreme amazement, and increasing it further drives someone into shock, activating the sympathetic nervous system and thus leading into a release of noradrenaline from nerve endings acting on the heart, blood vessels, respiratory centers and other spots. This plays a big role into acute stress response.

-The purple sphere activates the person?s anterior insula in the brain, causing it to feel disgust and revulsion. Decreasing the tension causes boredom, and increasing it causes the victim?s ego state to wish the destruction of the source of it?s unhappiness, leading to hatred. Further increaser drives an acute activity in parts of the human brain that causes someone to feel extreme detestation towards something, such as the middle frontal gyrus or the insular cortex.

-The orange sphere causes feelings of enthusiastic anticipation. Decreased tension provokes emotions of interest and curiosity. Increased tension leads to alertness, and further increaser leads into exaggerated hypervigilance.

The spheres concept can be seen here:

(http://i.imgur.com/foCyR.jpg)

My general concept behind this ability was based after Plutchik's wheel of emotions:

(http://i.imgur.com/eycvU.gif)
 
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on January 02, 2012, 11:35:33 PM
1. O - Astral Photosynthesis
2. O - Referee Youkai lol
3. O/X
4. X - Combine the powers of Cirno, Utsuho, Mamizou and Suika.
5. O - Cool stuff
6. O - No Touhou yet who can do that.
7. X - Indeed that is what Reisen can specifically do.
8. O  - Well, Masha is limited to Mushroom spores. (I think)
9. O - Koishi/Sunny Milk/Reisen can do that by proxy though not exactly the ability, really screws that outsider who's a living GPS.
10. O/X - Alchemy? Patchy?
11. O - Kanako/Suwako can do that on a small scale, maybe Yukari if she gets creative.
12. O - A few characters can do that by proxy.

We're thinking this too hard, can't we have something simple like manifestation of awesome?
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Post by: iK on January 03, 2012, 12:23:39 AM
Ability to combine objects? Ahdunnuh just putting something more simple out there.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on January 03, 2012, 12:39:15 AM
Ability to combine objects? Ahdunnuh just putting something more simple out there.
The alchemization youkai...  Now we are getting somewhere crazy.

Ability to cause epidemics  (not disease manipulation, but making diseases appear.)
Manipulation of clothing.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on January 03, 2012, 03:07:41 AM
Hmmm, massive boost whenever the character puts on a specific headgear? (*cough*
Gabranth
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Yeah I've been playing Dissidia lately, how's about....oh Suika can do that.


Manipulation of Yukkuris.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on January 03, 2012, 05:58:29 AM
Manipulation of wealth.  (any kind of wealth)
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on January 05, 2012, 02:06:47 AM
the ability to make words into physical objects.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on January 05, 2012, 03:12:26 AM
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Ability to destroy plant life.
Everyone.
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The ability to create images directly from the mind.
Fear Youkai. Darkness Mind hax
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Ability to breathe (One character has the useless ability to talk, right?)
I'm tired atm, but i don't think there is an ability to talk. Maybe to talk TO a certain thing. Like Kasen's Animal Manipulation allows her to talk to Animals.
Also characters like Satori and Miko have the abilities to understand words of mind/desire
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But really, think of the Danmaku difficulty (bullets censored by something you cannot see them clearly).
Boundary Sign "Boundary Between Vision and Blindness"
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Here are a few abilities I thought of:
-Manipulation of light
-Manipulation of emotion
-Ability to change cell structure
-Ability to make someone's worst fears real
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1. Sunny Milk(Or was it Luna Child?)
2. Koishi
3. Erm..Nue/Mamizou/Evolution-youkai
4. Reisen, though, if you really want physically existing? That's original.
Sunny has the ability to refract light, Koishi controls the subconscious, which is more than emotion, Nue doesn't actually change shape, she just hides her form. And Reisen's ability has nothing to do with fear at all. Unless you fear going insane with rabbit mindfluxs
I got a fear youkai OC in the making. Her ability operates on darkness, so yeah...
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Quote from: GuardianTempest on December 22, 2011, 07:09:12 am
Oh? I thought, unlike Satori, Koishi can manipulate what she detects. And besides, it's the subconscious, and I'm subconsciously supporting her right now.
If that were the case, she'd gain control of the player character and screw up your ability to dodge...
Spellcard rules deny the full use of one's abilities.
This is why Sakuya doesn't just stop time and go on a stabbing spree with your vitals. Also why Flandre didn't break the player, Remi didn't fate player into death, Yuyuko didn't kill the player, Yukari didn't border rip the player, Sanae didn't miracle herself to victory, Komachi didn't shrink the distance between the player and the bullets, Utsuho didn;t just cancer the player, Yamame didn't just give the player the plague, etc the list goes on and on.
So yeah. Though their abilites seem and can be quite overpowered, they can't really use them to their full extent.
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- To show up late for work without anyone noticing.
Koishi can do that.
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- High Intelligence and proficiency in war strategy
Yorihime iirc
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Being able to learn everything about a person or object just by looking at it
Miko + Rinnosuke
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-Have you ever played a game with an annoying enemy that reverses the controls of directional buttons?
Those parts of games piss me off
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By now the thread has exhausted everything ZUN can come up with.
Not even. Who knows what kind of things he'll come up with next.

More Abilities yay.
Ability to Traquilize one's soul (it makes you feel at peace)
Ability to give shocks....
Ability to Sleep from October to May
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on January 05, 2012, 06:59:31 AM
the power to have lots and lots of powers.  /shot

okay, the ability to hijack the powers of others.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on January 07, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
Power over nothing the Void.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: iK on January 07, 2012, 04:29:14 PM
It all starts from one. No, it all starts from zero. And so must the world... return to zero. It all starts with this...


That's the... Chaos Emerald!
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Damien on January 07, 2012, 05:44:31 PM
Manipulation of Singularity
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on January 08, 2012, 02:25:11 AM
Manipulation of knowledge.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: iK on January 08, 2012, 02:43:28 AM
Manipulation of knowledge.

I assume this extends to the manipulation of youkai named Knowledge as well.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on January 08, 2012, 05:11:01 AM
Metagaming, lol.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on January 08, 2012, 06:53:46 AM
I assume this extends to the manipulation of youkai named Knowledge as well.
Hadn't thought of that, but yes.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on January 08, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
Power over nothing the Void.

The ability to turn empty space into danmaku~
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on January 08, 2012, 08:45:25 PM
The ability to turn empty space into danmaku~

That would SUCK...to the receiving end.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: UndyingHunterKamigama on January 08, 2012, 09:50:42 PM
Random newbie's first post.
Maybe the powers
To manipulate the memory
To manipulate the body cells (allowing improved body features like speed and strength)
To manipulate the direction of something moving (be it damaku or a kick)
To negate magic in one spot
To manipulate solar energy
To manipulate molecules

I find the blood and gravity control abilites quite cool
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on January 09, 2012, 12:10:15 AM
Indeed it would.

The ability to calm a person's soul.
She can make you fall asleep~
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: iK on January 09, 2012, 03:57:55 AM
Then everyone can be a sleepy moe like Yuuka-98

-u- zzZZ Ah~
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: haoreos2 on January 09, 2012, 04:16:04 AM
Imma take the thread title literally for a second: I'd like to see someone with the ability to play a SA ReimuC no focus pacifist run.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on January 09, 2012, 05:15:24 AM
The ability to affect the fourth wall.

wait.  Oh no.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 09, 2012, 11:53:08 PM
I would like to see the ability to0 clear Cirno when she uses everyone's spells combined.  :derp:
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on January 11, 2012, 03:39:26 PM
Power to grant the wishes of others.

Of course, the wish granter can twist said wish in any way he/she wants, depending on how specific the wish is. He/she can easily make the wish bite you in the rear sooner or later if you wish isn't very detailed.

Loophole abuse abound with this power.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Matt on January 11, 2012, 11:40:48 PM
Manipulation of Chaos would be pretty cool maybe like a FLandre/Keine hybrid  :V
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Tamashii Kanjou on January 12, 2012, 01:06:37 AM
I hear someone mentioning the ability to manipulate chaos...

I'd like to say I already claimed that.  :derp:

...

On a serious (and on-topic) note, I would like to see someone with the ability to physically replicate an item. To be specific, I have a normal spear; watch as I suddenly summon an exact copy of that several times over and throw it at you.
I understand the argument 'isn't that what danmaku is, though'; hence it's an actual object and not a bullet. Sakuya doesn't really do it as she stops time to gather knives.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Starxsword on January 12, 2012, 06:21:10 AM
I hear someone mentioning the ability to manipulate chaos...

I'd like to say I already claimed that.  :derp:

...

On a serious (and on-topic) note, I would like to see someone with the ability to physically replicate an item. To be specific, I have a normal spear; watch as I suddenly summon an exact copy of that several times over and throw it at you.
I understand the argument 'isn't that what danmaku is, though'; hence it's an actual object and not a bullet. Sakuya doesn't really do it as she stops time to gather knives.

If I am reading it right, as far as I can tell, that can probably be used as Danmaku. Sakuya tosses knives, which are objects and one of Marisa's spell cards may
or may not be edible.
I believe Sakuya can summon knives with magic.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on January 12, 2012, 11:08:19 AM
The ability to change colors.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on January 13, 2012, 10:50:57 PM
Okay guys, I finally took my time to read the whole topic, so, I?m going to reply to some of it.
Hmmm.... I would actually like to see a character who didn't have any abilities, but had a magical item that gave her (or him if ZUN is drunk enough) powers.
There?s an H Touhou Doujin where Rinnosuke obtains The 3 most valuable Japanese Imperial Regalia (The sword Kusanagi, the mirror Yata no Kagami and the jewel Yasakani no Magatama), giving him formidable powers and making him nearly invincible, capable of overpowering even Yukari. (Considering that he is a weak character in the series) so yes. I think it could work, but without the items he/she would be trash.
Manipulation of Dimensions
Ahh? Dimensional Manipulation. The extremely powerful ability that allows it?s user to create dimensions, travel between them, cause dimensional shifting or even create a scale composed of nothing and thus generating a big bang, leading to the creation of an Universe. I?d imagine a Final Boss or an EX one with this. Yes, it could work.
Manipulation of Probability
Ability to Manifest the Imagination
This makes me think of Longshot from Marvel.
The second one would be Reality Distortion, the ability that?s basically only limited to it?s user?s imagination.
Ability to null other abilities.
Oboro from the Basilisk anime had this ability. She was able to kill an immortal enemy by nullifying his immortality. While it?s not a direct offensive ability per se, it?s still a very dangerous one.
Manipulation of light (http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Pika_Pika_no_Mi), would be cool.

Or maybe even the power to Manipulate magma and lava, then we'd have a Volcanic youkai.
Photonic Manipulation. Sunny Milk can do that by some extension, but refracting light isn?t full control over light. An advanced user would be able to do stuff like holographic copies, emit blinding light, allow light to run through the user (invisibility), fire lasers made out of pure photonic energy or even solidify photons, creating light structures.

Patchouli can do the second one with the following EOSD spell card:
Fire & Earth Sign ?Lava Cromlech?
Mine would be Manipulation of Clones, Space and Forms (altogether).
I like this, it?s pretty original. But only the non-overpowered version.
I dont know what u mean by Manipulation of Ash, but i think it may similar to Suika ability.
Ash is burnt matter which means it can?t be burned again. That would be the best counter against fire based characters such as Utsuho or Mokou. The user could create smokescreens or change it?s body into ash to become ?fireproof?, and among other stuff like triggering explosions by gathering the residual heat around the ash (? la gunpowder).
Manipulation of vectors could be an interesting (albiet pretty overpowered) ability.
I know, but bah? It?s not that overpowered considering we have characters that can manipulate boundaries, density or nuclear fusion already. But yes, by manipulating vectors the possibilities are innumerous.
Hmmm..
Power to become "justin bieber"
Power to become "rebecca black"
No.
Thx to OkashiiKisei, i thought of Manipulation of Anti-Matter, well if u read Dan Brown's Angels and Demons, u will get how strong Anti-Matter than Nuclear Fusion (100% energy produced from the famous E=mc2)
Ultimate destructive ability. And yes, antimatter destroys any kind of matter via collision and ceases it?s existence.
The power to gain strength from hatred of others. In this sense, the one who has this power gains their strength from being that one guy (or in this case, girl) that everyone hates being around and just cannot stand. An example of this would be equivalent to how everyone feels about Excalibur in Soul Eater, only the one everyone grows annoyed with actually gets stronger from the power of 'lol u mad?'.
Hate on her all you want, she'll just get stronger because of it. Makes it especially bad if you take this out in the form of physical violence and try to beat'er like that. She is literally, the one annoyance that you won't get rid of.
Oh Jesus, that would be so horrible? and since it?s hard to control the hatred, one would hate her even without actually wanting it.
POwer to create pollution
Sometime ago by navigating through pixiv, I ran across a touhou OC with this skill and I found it to be pretty neat. The game?s name was ?The End Of Industrial Revolution? If I?m not wrong. All in all, one that can manipulate hazardous substances can be threatening? and with this, one would most likely be immune to polluted air as well.

Something I'd like to see is "Manipulation of Fury/Anger." Something along the lines of Parsee's ability, where the character them selves turn out to be quite angry in an introverted prospect.

I'd imagine some attacks doing something like using red bullets while making the screen fade in and out of red itself, or a single spellcard that makes the screen constantly slightly red. A tribute to those annoying red levels in HRtP.
I?d like to see a variation of this ability. Someone that gets a massive boost on it?s power level through anger. In other words? the angrier she is, the stronger she is. So, don?t harm her loved one or her friends if you don?t want to become cosmic dust through a violent rampage.
Inspired by a recent theme in Kingdom of Loathing: The ability of spontaneous candy generation.
What a sweet idea. (Literary)

I imagine a very cute girly-loli with this ability. By the way, charlotte from Madoka Magica can do that.
The ability to delete objects from existence.
Basically what Xenmas from Kingdom heart does. (Manipulation of Nothingness)
Manipulation of gemstones.
This gives me some inspiration.

Manipulation Of Gemstones:

-One can create gemstones out thin air with this. The value of the gem is determined by the user?s power level.

-Beginners can only create semi-precious stones, such as Jade, Quartz, Onyx or Amber.

-Advanced users can create precious stones as well, such as Ruby, Sapphire or Emerald.

-Master level users are able to create diamonds.

-As a method of attack, one can create weapons made out of gems, such as ruby swords, emerald spears, sapphire axes or even fire omnidirectional sharp gem shards.

-The more valuable the gem, the more energy it takes to create it.

Manipulation of missing objects.
Awesome. This character would work like a living radar.
I'd like to see the ability to reflect magic: have spellcards where the shooting the boss causes your own bullets to be reflected in an arc (obviously as reasonably slow bullets, not the instant ones the heroine uses), others where the boss summons allies or something from the bottom of the screen that shoot upward at her, and their bullets get reflected back down again. Would still take damage from being shot, just means you may have to think about whether you should perhaps take your finger off the shooting key once in a while. Alternatively, have her only reflect danmaku periodically, and you have to damage her in between immunities, in which case it could be a timeout-centric fight like Yoshika.

May be too similar to the echo youkai though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRVYD6hejEw
-Ability to make someone's worst fears real
Like boggarts from Harry Potter? That would be nice, I think.
I'd like to see some abilities that would be useful in my daily life:
- To show up late for work without anyone noticing.
- To borrow books from others and have people be like "yeah, take your time returning it, there's totally no rush"
- To show up at bus stops exactly one minute before they arrive.
- To never get a busy signal when calling someone.
- To have unlimited bandwidth.
-To always get into buses with at least one free seat. (I don?t know how it is with you guys, but here in Brazil I nearly always get into crowded buses without a single free space).

-To get into a queue, and ask for people if you could get into their front and have them be all like ?Sure, sure, please feel free to do it, I?m in no rush?

-To make the first car you give a hitchhiking signal stop and give you a ride.

-To go into a store, ask the owner if you could pay the product off in parts and have him/her be like ?Of course, it?s always a pleasure to deal with you?

The ability to enter someone's dreams would be interesting.
A succubus character. Like the traditional succubus, she would drain the energy of the target and he/she would wake up completely worn out, the worst thing is that the dream would not be remembered.

A more advanced succubus would kill the target through the dream world, and the death would me manifested in the real world as well consequently. Or worse than that, she could imprison the target into his/her dream forever.
The ability to make a container have infinite storage.
Infinite Supply. It?s also possible to do other things, like making a gun never run out of ammunition or causing a book to never run out of Paper. (Possibly even a wallet to never run out of money). I?ve seen some characters with this, and it?s a good skill. Suika?s bottle of sake has an infinity effect, but she can?t induce this effect on stuff herself.
1. O - Astral Photosynthesis
2. O - Referee Youkai lol
3. O/X
4. X - Combine the powers of Cirno, Utsuho, Mamizou and Suika.
5. O - Cool stuff
6. O - No Touhou yet who can do that.
7. X - Indeed that is what Reisen can specifically do.
8. O  - Well, Masha is limited to Mushroom spores. (I think)
9. O - Koishi/Sunny Milk/Reisen can do that by proxy though not exactly the ability, really screws that outsider who's a living GPS.
10. O/X - Alchemy? Patchy?
11. O - Kanako/Suwako can do that on a small scale, maybe Yukari if she gets creative.
12. O - A few characters can do that by proxy.
We're thinking this too hard, can't we have something simple like manifestation of awesome?

1 - Indeed, it?s astral photosynthesis. I could think about characters with Lunar or Solar photosynthesis as well, but I think it?d become too redundant, so, astral photosynthesis would suffice. Maybe the three mischievous fairies could do that if they got developed enough.

2 - Exactly. (lol)

4 ? Hmm? alright, but none of them can cause Ionization or Deionization or manipulate plasma.

7 ? I?d imagine that. It?s stated nowhere that she is able to manipulate neural oscillations, but since Reisen is an advanced manipulator of waves, I think doing that would be no problem for her.

9 ? Maybe reisen, but I can?t see sunny milk doing that, she is able to refract light which can cause interference on the environment?s look and cause people to lose their way, but it?s not exactly the ability as you said. And I don?t think Koishi is able to do that by any extent, since she can only manipulate subconsciousness, and to activate the motor cortex you need to consciously stimulate certain parts of the brain. You never do body movements subconsciously, unless if you?re under somnambulism.

10 ? Maybe? maybe not.

Manipulation of Singularity
The ability to be absolutely one of a kind. Users with this cannot be cloned, having their powers mimicked or being targets of shapeshifters. Not really useful if you ask me, it?s only for defensive purposes.
To manipulate solar energy
Nice. Manipulation of solar energy is basically an improved version of fire manipulation. The cosmic fire of stars is not dependent on oxygen, meaning it?s able to ignite even into the vacuum of space or underwater. One could create solar flares, solar winds or even Moreton Waves. (Also known as the ?Solar Tsunami?).
The ability to change colors.
Chromokinesis/Camouflage. Not really useful, maybe a chameleon loli with this.

I also liked those:

-Sonae: Manipulation of Vibrations (8.0/10)
-Erebus: Manipulation of Parasites (8.5/10)
-Lavokashii: Animation (9.0/10) Yes.
-GuardianTempest: Cartoon Physics (9.5/10) | Troll logic (10/10) <3
-Unassuming Squid: Manipulation of Memories (7.5/10)
-Angelfire: Manipulation of Technology/Technomancy (8.0/10)
-Zap: Manipulation of Metals (7.0/10)

Anyway, I?ve thought of two others:

Manipulation of Entropy (Perpetual motion effect generation) / Irreversibility control

-Entropy is the gradual exhaustion of Natural processes. A tendency that through time makes differences in temperature, pressure, etc? achieve thermodynamic equilibrium, which explains the concept of irreversibility in nature.

-Which this ability, one is able to negate the effect of Entropy of a target. It?s quite complicated to explain, so, I?ll give some examples.
-The sun is gradually exhausting it?s fuel, which is going to lead to cooling.

-The Earth?s gravitational field is slowly losing it?s energy, which is going to cause Earth to lose it?s orbit.
-Nuclear fuel gradually becomes static.

-A wheel of fortune will eventually stop spinning and become inert.

-A top which relies on gyroscopic effect will slowly lose it?s energy.

-Everything is gradually drawing toward an end, and so is the universe. Manipulating the entropy would open up a very large range of possibilities, such as:

-Causing a volcano to erupt forever.

-Causing an everlasting Tsunami

-Creating a tornado that never stops whirling.

-Causing a supernova (Galactic Explosion) to burst eternally.

-Causing constant accelerated universal expansion.

-Before someone points out that this is the same as Kaguya?s manipulation of Eternity, no, I?d not say so. I think Kaguya can only induce eternity on solid, stable objects, such as a house, a person, or a carpet. With this ability one would be able to make something eternal AND eternalize it?s fluency constant. In other words, perpetual motion effect.

Extremely fast learning curve rate and unlimited learning potential

-While learning how to do an activity or how to use a tool, one?s increase in retention of information is more acute after the initial attempts, and eventually evens out, which means that less and less new information is retained after each retry.

-One with this ability massively exceeds on it?s learning curve, meaning that it has nearly zero initial difficulty of learning something, even during it?s first attempts. It?s possible to quickly learn how to do complex activities such as:

-Learning how to pilot a rocket during it?s first attempts.

-Learning how to operate complex electromechanical computing machines during the first day.

-Learning how to surf in few hours.

-Learning how to properly play an electric guitar in less than 1 hour.

-Learning how to paint fine pieces of art after some few attempts.

-Quickly learning how to efficiently use a bow.

-Even though it?s a good ability, it has some limits. For example, one cannot learn how to ride a motorcycle just by reading some Tutorials. Practical activities are still meant to be learned through trial and error, and not just theory.

-This ability isn?t omniscience. It?s not innately knowing everything and anything infinitely.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on January 14, 2012, 02:50:43 AM
Thanks for the top scores, though what about Akyuu? Being able to memorize eternally could mean endless replay until mastered.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on January 14, 2012, 06:06:09 AM
I haven't seen someone with "ability to carry/store any object regardless of size, weight, etc."

Of course, someone in Gensokyo could invent such and such a storage machine that could do this. With various ways to retrieve stored items and such.
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Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on January 14, 2012, 06:49:15 PM
Thanks for the top scores, though what about Akyuu? Being able to memorize eternally could mean endless replay until mastered.

It was a pleasure. And I haven't thought about Akyuu until you mentioned it. Yes, I think she could do that via photographic memory as a sub-category of her ability.

Learning curves of "intelligent" characters might be faster as well, such as Satori, Patchouli, Ran or Yorihime. But even so, I think someone like Patchouli would only have a fast learning curve on activities that requires Logical-Mathematical intelligence, such as learning how to use new chemical formulas. (I can't imagine her quickly learning how to surf or to skate) Ran would exceed on this as well, by quickly learning how to solve complex mathematical expressions. I'd imagine Satori or Koishi exceeding on intra-personal intelligence (It's what the psychologists have). Miko would probably exceed on Inter-personal intelligence, (Understanding skills).

I haven't seen someone with "ability to carry/store any object regardless of size, weight, etc."

Of course, someone in Gensokyo could invent such and such a storage machine that could do this. With various ways to retrieve stored items and such.

Dimensional Storage. The ability to store/organisms in a pocket dimension and make them re-materialize whenever necessary. I can name a few characters with this, such as Link from Legend of Zelda (With his bags) or Deadpool from marvel (able to pull weapons out of nowhere). It's a good skill to have, one would be able to do stuff like summoning big weapons out of a small bag or container, or random items to attack.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Excelsus on January 15, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
More abilities:
- Manipulation of Smoke ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enenra
- Dream Eater ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku_%28spirit%29
- POwer to paralyze person ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashimagari
- High-Power Protection ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shisa
- Elastic and Stretchy Body ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokurokubi
- Cause disaster ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Ckubi
- POwer to steal someone identity ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noppera-b%C5%8D
- Can create magnificent weapons ~  Ippon-Datara
- POwer to cause droughts and thirst ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiderigami
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: GuardianTempest on January 16, 2012, 09:26:37 AM
#7: Nue and Mamizou indirectly.
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Post by: Excelsus on January 16, 2012, 10:30:18 AM
Oh yeah for elastic and stretchy body, can also be for Ittan-Momen
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Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 06:53:31 PM
This ability is impossible but, I'd like to see the ability to no bomb, Extra Mode, and Pacifist Run on EoSD, MoF, SA, and TD Extra.
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Post by: Nekomata-chan on January 16, 2012, 08:22:57 PM
The ability to change the colour of anything.

Example:
#1: Screw the rules, I have green hair!
#2: Uh, no you don't.
#1: Wanna bet?
~COLOUR CHANGE -> GREEN~
#2:  ???

It would be pretty awesome~!
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Post by: Zil on January 16, 2012, 08:54:09 PM
This ability is impossible but, I'd like to see the ability to no bomb, Extra Mode, and Pacifist Run on EoSD, MoF, SA, and TD Extra.
That's actually very possible, maybe excepting EoSD due the madness that QED goes into. Subterranean Rose won't even get going if you don't shoot.
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Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 08:56:17 PM
So EoSd and SA are impossible. Well, I've made my point 
:dealwithit:
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Post by: Zil on January 16, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
Subterranean Rose won't even get going if you don't shoot.
By this I meant that the attack never leaves the first phase. It stays on the easiest form the whole time. Nothing impossible about it.
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Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 09:21:26 PM
But still it's impossible. You don't shoot at her or bomb her while she tries to mindfuck you. Try surviving all her nonspells and spells ( That includes Sanae. )
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Post by: Zil on January 16, 2012, 09:42:47 PM
Sanae's first two spells are pretty easy and the third has a safespot. Koishi's nonspells are also kinda easy and the spells are mostly memorization.
Remember that when people play these games for score the whole idea is to pretty much timeout the nonspells for graze points, as well as some of the graze friendly spells, so... I'm not saying it's easy, but hardly impossible.
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Post by: Yukari-Chan on January 16, 2012, 09:47:29 PM
Now I get the point. But we all know Flandre is hard too beat ( Damn 4 and QED + capturing Maze of love Pacifist )
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Post by: Tengukami on January 16, 2012, 09:55:51 PM
Let's maybe move away from gameplay discussion, which is on a whole other board, and get back to the subject at hand?

Such as how great it would be to see a character with the ability to [X].
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Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on January 16, 2012, 11:32:48 PM
Let's maybe move away from gameplay discussion, which is on a whole other board, and get back to the subject at hand?

Such as how great it would be to see a character with the ability to [X].

Thank you.


More abilities:
- Manipulation of Smoke ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enenra
- Dream Eater ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku_%28spirit%29
- POwer to paralyze person ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashimagari
- High-Power Protection ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shisa
- Elastic and Stretchy Body ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokurokubi
- Cause disaster ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Ckubi
- POwer to steal someone identity ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noppera-b%C5%8D
- Can create magnificent weapons ~  Ippon-Datara
- POwer to cause droughts and thirst ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiderigami


Ability to create razor whirlwinds: Kamaitachi (http://www.obakemono.com/obake/kamaitachi/)

Ability to clear up the skies and bring sunny weather (Summer Youkai): Hiyoribo (http://hyakumonogatari.com/2011/12/22/what-are-teruteru-bozu/)

Ability to detect thieves: Hyakume (http://obake.wikispaces.com/Hyakume)

Ability to use hellfire: Katawaguruma (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%89%87%E8%BC%AA%E8%BB%8A)

Ability to cause plagues/famine: Itsumaden (http://www.obakemono.com/obake/itsumaden/)

Ability to grind azuki beans (Kind of Useless): Azukiarai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azukiarai)

Ability to bring richness/wealth: Zashiki-Warashi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zashiki-warashi)

Ability to provoke fear/terror into people?s hearts: Mary-San (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%81%95%E3%82%93%E3%81%AE%E9%9B%BB%E8%A9%B1)

Ability to overcast the skies and bring rain: Ameonna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameonna)

Ability to create mirages: Shen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shen_(clam-monster))

Prehensile Hair: Futakuchi-onna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futakuchi-onna)

Ability to merge or absorb children: Mu-onna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu-onna)

High youkai leadership and administration skills: Nurarihyon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurarihyon)

By that, we'd exhaust zun's supply of new youkai.
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Post by: Excelsus on January 17, 2012, 02:02:37 AM
snip,Too long...
1. Aya
2. Iku
3, ???
4. Okuu
5. Yamame
6. ???
7. Tewi
8. Satori/Koishi
9. Iku(again)/Sanae/Kanako
10. Reisen
11. ???
12. ???
13. ???
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Post by: GuardianTempest on January 17, 2012, 09:33:47 AM
How about a sort of Determination/this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeroicRROD)? Like how Kayako Saeko from Ju On everytime she faceplants from the ceiling yet continues to crawl madly after you.
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Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on January 17, 2012, 07:27:35 PM
How about a sort of Determination/this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeroicRROD)? Like how Kayako Saeko from Ju On everytime she faceplants from the ceiling yet continues to crawl madly after you.

That would be interesting.


Anyway, I just had an awesome idea.

Manipulation of Visual System

A character with that would be able to control it?s visual functions, and the way the eye acquire visual perceptions and photoresponse.

Night vision: That would work by collecting the tiny quantities of light, including the lower section of the infrared light spectrum that are present but imperceptible to ordinary eyes, and amplifying it until the point of clear image observation in low-light conditions.

Thermal vision: Manipulation of the eyes to the point of being able to focus on the infrared light emitted by all of the objects in view. In other words, this type of vision would work exactly like a thermographic camera.

Microscopic vision: Would allow the owner to zoom in on objects that would naturally be too small to see, even on cellular or molecular level.

Telescopic vision: Would allow the owner to ?zoom in? on far away objects, even hundreds of miles away.

X-Ray vision: One would be able to selectively see through objects as though they are invisible or translucent, consequently, seeing objects or surfaces beyond or deep to the affected object or material by using terahertz waves. <- (That?s by far the best part, it would lead to the creation of the most perverted girl in gensokyo. Being able to see through the clothes of other girls, or even through the underwear? it?d make her even more perverted than Aya).
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Post by: Zil on January 17, 2012, 08:17:27 PM
Turning obsession into danmaku. Actually, what would be really cool is if each boss in the game where obsessed with something unique (like wealth or beauty, etc.) and based their spells off of it. Maybe Parsee could make a reappearance as a midboss or something.
Manipulation of Visual System
If you could shift between which wavelengths are visible at any given time, you could ideally get more than just infrared. The entire spectrum theoretically, though some of them may just be seeing the sun through everything else, even your eyelids. I forget which, but a certain wavelength is blocked by windows and goes through most walls. You'd see through everything but windows would be floating black squares. That'd be weird, to say the least.
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Post by: Lightseeker on January 21, 2012, 08:00:06 PM
Someone in this topic had mentioned "manipulation of motivation", I believe that would be a fearsome ability. Imagine someone like Reimu or Marisa losing their motivation to fight...
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Post by: akira.izayoi on January 27, 2012, 12:29:01 PM
 I'd like to see someone with ability to manipulate knowledge.
The user could "know" how to do things like throwing knifes like Sakuya , Making chi like Meiling , or Making flowers grow like Yuuka from seeing it. She wouldnt be able to inherit the skills she saw though (its like how we could learn how to ride bikes or skating from youtube [knowledge] but in real life you would have to practice doing flip tricks to be good at it [skill] ).
She will be able to manipulate Other's Knowledge too , like making Yukari forgot how to make her gaps. She would still be able to make Gaps though , but will just forget how to do it .
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Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on January 27, 2012, 10:07:54 PM
Above poster.
How about making someone suddenly know how to do something? It may not be useful in most situations, though...
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Post by: Averruncus of Fate on January 28, 2012, 11:15:11 AM
I think I want to see a character with a time travel ability. (It's not like Sakuya) Maybe it'll make a good plot too if he/she is the main antagonist...
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Post by: AJC on January 30, 2012, 09:52:31 PM
the ability to manipulate gold and other precious stuff like gemstones

"bitch i shoot diamonds."
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Post by: GuardianTempest on February 03, 2012, 11:41:12 AM
Kites.

Remember: Kiteman owned Batman...at his time.
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Post by: iK on February 03, 2012, 04:05:44 PM
I could see a ninja character using a kite while having some arbitrary power like Yuugi.
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Post by: fondue on February 15, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
I would like to see an ordinary human who has three powers: Able to make anything and everything happen, manipulation of personalities and able to define anything and everything into anything and everything.
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Post by: iK on February 16, 2012, 03:16:15 AM
Her name could be Maryann Suenaga or something of the sort?
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Post by: teefa85 on February 16, 2012, 03:34:10 AM
One character I created is a Songbird Youkai, who can heal people with her singing abilities.  So her powers are somewhat the opposite of Mystia's in that they help instead of harming.  Though I can see her being more relevant in an RPG spinoff (official or by fans) than a danmaku games...she's not really a good fighter and if she were in a game she'd probably be a Stage 1 boss that happened to get attacked just because she wandered into Reimu or Marisa's path.
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Post by: GuardianTempest on February 16, 2012, 04:33:07 AM
Cool, a Qurupeco.

Which reminds me, how about a character that creates explosions from impact?
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Post by: Desu_Cake on February 16, 2012, 04:58:45 PM
A snail youkai. You know it would be awesome.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on February 18, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
Manipulation of the the game itself.

The boss attacks you with your own score numbers and gauges.
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Post by: Nekomata-chan on February 18, 2012, 09:06:20 PM
A snail youkai. You know it would be awesome.
Two words.
DO WANT.
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Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on February 25, 2012, 05:35:57 PM
Well, something I'd like to see as well is a Boss that shoots no danmaku... at all. Just Lasers.

Think about Ichirin or Yuugi's non spell card attacks, but even her spell cards would only be Lasers as well, of diverse sizes. Sometimes as thick as sanae's "Nine Syllable Stabs" or as thin as Kogasa's "Karakasa Surprising Flash"

Something like Shou's "Complete Clarification" or her curvy ones would be applied as well. So yes, she'd have "Manipulation of Lasers"

A snail youkai. You know it would be awesome.

http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=448280
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Post by: RSFiye on February 25, 2012, 07:56:26 PM
The ability to manipulate the extent of electromagnetic waves.

Fuckin' magnets! (Also: Moar curvy lasers)

Besides that, a character with some sort of telekinetic prowess would be fun to see. Like the rocks of SA being thrown at your character, on top of danmaku bullets.
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Post by: iK on February 26, 2012, 12:25:27 AM
Speaking of Magnets, Seiga's energy ball things are pretty cool and completely nonsensical for her to use.
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Post by: YukkuriPaste on February 26, 2012, 04:19:20 PM
Manipulation of Smells.

Nothing kills a fight faster than stinking of old eggs.
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Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on February 26, 2012, 06:26:59 PM
The ability to manipulate the extent of electromagnetic waves.

Isn't that Tojiko's ability? Lighting and electromagnetism are closely related since lighting creates electromagnetic waves/radiation to some extent.

Besides, look at this (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1007992/4koma-bow-comic-danmaku-directional_arrow-dress-fi).

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Post by: Zil on February 26, 2012, 06:46:36 PM
There is a difference between electromagnetic waves and electromagnetic fields (kind of). Light is a wave, for instance (though it can be viewed as a particle too). Lightning comes from a charge imbalance, which is more of a "field" thing I guess.

Anyway, I'd think manipulating electric current is Tojiko's ability. (Which would of course give her control over about a thousand different things other than just "shooting lightning.")
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Post by: RSFiye on February 26, 2012, 07:36:21 PM
Magic, you have no idea how much I hate you right now for showing me that. Ungodly memories from the school that taught me my ways flourish back.[/color]

Seriously, I've been taught generator/motor theory several times and I still can't remember it. *Flails in anger*

Anyways, current is just a measure of how fast electrons move from one side to the other. Voltage is just a measure of the difference in charge that exists at two different points.

Apply a current carrying conductor to two different points of voltage, and ZAP! You caused current.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday%27s_law_of_induction

I'm not talking anymore about this. My knowledge in the field is grossly inadequate, considering everything I learned in A school has been forgotten about.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on March 01, 2012, 07:03:46 AM
The ability to manipulate mathematics.  (anything can be reduced to mathematics.  This is Phantasm material here.)

The ability to cure illness.  (Could use one of these right now)
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Post by: iK on March 01, 2012, 10:22:30 AM
Some 5 AM ideas.

Ability to the extent of controlling man-made objects (Something an actually potent Poltergeist might have I suppose?)

Ability to the extent of manipulating states [of matter]. Could do things like turn the ground into quick sand, melt things which normally couldn't (Such as, for random example, trees), etc., all without changing the actual temperature of the matter. (80?F Snowball fight!)

Ability to the extent of manipulating greed. Not sure how this would transfer into danmaku, but I think they'd have some pretty funny dialogue with, well any of the main characters really. Gensokyans are selfish fucks :V
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Post by: Nekomata-chan on March 01, 2012, 04:39:50 PM
Manipulation/absorbing of strength.
Just imagine it, you could reduce everyone around you to weaklings whilst upping yourself to a really high level of power.
The worst nightmare of all Oni in existence!
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Post by: Scarlet Bellflower on March 06, 2012, 10:43:22 AM
Manipulation of purity.
 You're flying through Gensokyo, then suddenly you get attack by an awfully aggressive fairy.
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Post by: fondue on March 06, 2012, 04:20:37 PM
Manipulation/absorbing of strength.
Just imagine it, you could reduce everyone around you to weaklings whilst upping yourself to a really high level of power.
The worst nightmare of all Oni in existence!
Cirno: EYE CAN TAKE HER! EYE'M THE STRONGEST!
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Post by: Damien on March 06, 2012, 05:48:28 PM
Manipulation of Energy/Matter.
If you control energy, you control everything? Because everything IS energy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy)
I would like to see this kind of girl with that power walking around gensokyo.
Inspired by comic Solar, the Man of Atom. Here some of the feats when you manipulate energy :
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t463356.html (http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t463356.html)
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Post by: Irate Researchers on March 07, 2012, 12:24:21 AM
manipulation of water.

The ability to break barriers.

The ability to cause spontaneous combustion of objects.
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Post by: iK on March 07, 2012, 02:11:53 AM
I'm 100% sure that Nitori's power is literally Manipulation of Water.
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on March 07, 2012, 06:53:51 PM
The ability to break barriers.

Reimu can already do this. That's pretty much entirely what PCB Extra/Phantasm was all about; Reimu broke the barrier to the netherworld at the end of stage 4 (iirc, just by touching it), and they have to pester Yukari to fix it.
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Post by: Starxsword on March 08, 2012, 04:27:08 AM
While I don't doubt Reimu can break barriers, I was under the impression that the reason they pester Yukari to fix the barrier is because Yukari weakened the barrier between the human world and the netherworld. That issue is still unresolved at the moment.
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Post by: haoreos2 on March 10, 2012, 11:39:59 AM
I was under the same impression as starx. Got a link or something to where you got that, 8lue?
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Post by: GuardianTempest on March 10, 2012, 11:43:58 AM
Ability: The same effect Terry Crew's Old Spice Odor-blocking bodywash has: POOOWWWEEEERRRR!!!!
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Post by: Esper on March 11, 2012, 05:37:38 AM
Ability to swap current thought process with subconscious thought process

Ability to manipulate chance

Ability to move faster than light

Ability to alter time and physical laws (And no, I'm not talking about a Hakutaku)

Ability to liquify any non-living object
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Post by: UndyingHunterKamigama on March 12, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
How bout ability to manipulate steel?


The ability to change locations of something? Like if said character places their hands on a section of a tree, a section of the tree would turn to water, while a river close by would trade a section of the water into a piece of the tree.


The ability to reflect attacks?


And the ability to turn the physical body into a weapon. Enhancing the strength or speed, skin camouflage color and such. Or forming blades out of arms.


And how bout the ability to precise. For example, being able to shoot a danmaku bullet between patterns and hitting a target just by seeing the pattern once. Or predicting the outcome of a battle between two characters that he/she knows how they fight.


And for the finale, the ability to change the weight of a target, be it a leaf or a giant totem. For example, turning a leaf you touched and turning it into a mini-anvil or a totem being light enough to flip and toss. Have something to do with gravity for sure.

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Post by: fondue on March 13, 2012, 04:20:40 PM
Ability to move faster than light
That's impossible.
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Post by: Zil on March 13, 2012, 06:32:21 PM
That's impossible.
So is everything else that everyone does.
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Post by: iK on March 13, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
So is everything else that everyone does.

I don't know man, I SWEAR I've flown for like 2 seconds by thinking really really hard.
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Post by: Scarlet Bellflower on March 13, 2012, 08:37:04 PM
That's impossible.

Doesn't Aya do something like that?
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Post by: Ghaleon on March 14, 2012, 01:08:55 AM
Doesn't Aya do something like that?

Dunno bout canon, but in relatively popular fanon yes. For example, in Touhou soccer 2, she takes a picture of herself kicking the ball IIRC.. and I don't mean as she kicks it but before.

Of course that doesn't make sense since cameras take light from the source as it goes to the camera not the other way around but meh.
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Post by: Starxsword on March 14, 2012, 02:27:25 AM
It can make sense if Aya was there where the camera is pointing, traveled back to the camera, then take a picture. In either case though, the camera wouldn't have enough time to focus, so she should be a blur.

That's impossible.

That may be possible now. Supposedly, traveling faster than the speed of light might be possible. I heard this on the radio, now I am unsure if the wiki is helpful or not, but you can see this article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light:

Quote
OPERA neutrino anomaly
Main article: Faster-than-light neutrino anomaly

On September 22, 2011, a paper[70] from the OPERA Collaboration indicated detection of 17 and 28 GeV muon neutrinos, sent 730 kilometers (454 miles) from CERN near Geneva, Switzerland to the Gran Sasso National Laboratory in Italy, traveling faster than light by a factor of 2.48?10−5 (approximately 1 in 40,000), a statistic with 6.0-sigma significance.[71] On 18 November 2011, a second followup experiment by OPERA scientists confirmed their initial results.[72][73] However, scientists are sceptical about the results of these experiments[74], which are currently disputed.[75]
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Post by: Zil on March 14, 2012, 02:31:37 AM
Wouldn't she just have to take a picture then get to the ball before the shutter opened? It wouldn't even require light speed.
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Post by: teefa85 on March 14, 2012, 03:25:45 AM
Well she does end up on her own pictures in the photography games if you get close enough to the boss...
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Post by: Tengukami on March 14, 2012, 12:30:08 PM
That may be possible now. Supposedly, traveling faster than the speed of light might be possible. I heard this on the radio, now I am unsure if the wiki is helpful or not, but you can see this article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light

Another group of scientists are saying that the CERN experiment had errors (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8905322/Speed-of-light-experiment-was-wrong-after-all.html), so matter still cannot conclusively travel faster than light just yet. Which does make sense, because physics.

That said, there's a lot about Aya that defies physics, so really nothing can be ruled out where she's concerned.
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on March 14, 2012, 02:43:20 PM

The Tsuchinoko is a creature that manipulates plants.
And Yuuka has the Manipulation of Flowers. While Flowers are plants, plants aren't strictly flowers.


Very late, but regarding Yuuka only being able to manipulate flowers, not plants as a whole, Yuuka could theoretically manipulate any plant that can grow flowers. They're connected after all, so Yuuka could exert her magic and power via the flower into the rest of the plant. Thus, Yuuka could control many kinds of plants and trees, though not every plant (plants that do not grow flowers are out of her control). So she could count as a plant manipulator, like Suwako.

Also, two interesting tidbits I noticed in her  Perfect Memento entry (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Yuuka_Kazami):
"Completely unrelated to her abilities, she uses her umbrella and scatters flower petals to perform graceful attacks. "
"The ability to manipulate flowers is something to the extent being able to make flowers bloom, shift the face of sunflowers towards the sun, or make withered flowers bloom again. This ability is more of an extra;"

This, combined with the 'ultimate magic' stuff from Mystic Square, implies Yuuka might have more tricks up her sleeve than just flower manipulation.
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Post by: Starxsword on March 15, 2012, 05:01:44 AM
Another group of scientists are saying that the CERN experiment had errors (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8905322/Speed-of-light-experiment-was-wrong-after-all.html), so matter still cannot conclusively travel faster than light just yet. Which does make sense, because physics.

That said, there's a lot about Aya that defies physics, so really nothing can be ruled out where she's concerned.

Yeah, what I meant is that saying it as impossible is not very valid. Since, even though the experiment does have errors, the idea of faster than light travel isn't exactly impossible.
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Post by: haoreos2 on March 15, 2012, 07:55:28 AM
That said, there's a lot about Aya that defies physics

This line, in a thread titled "What would you like to see", and it is ignored in favour of physics discussions.
I don't know whether to be proud, laugh, cringe, or suggest that you can totally move faster than light if you just never drop below that point or have a way to force the energy consumed into acceleration instead of increasing mass.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on March 15, 2012, 07:56:12 AM
The ability to teleport.

The ability to make a phrase true.
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on March 17, 2012, 11:07:30 AM
The power to pull out and manifest ideas/concepts from one's mind.
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Post by: Ghaleon on March 17, 2012, 06:06:43 PM
We need more really useless silly powers. Stuff like:
Ability to make people want chicken for their next meal,
Ability to genuinely cry at any moment,
Ability to to temporarily turn people's voices into charlie brown teacher style "blah blah"s (seeing that on eiki would be hilarious).
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Post by: pineyappled on March 17, 2012, 06:42:27 PM
This calls for a new PoFV patch.
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Post by: Esper on March 19, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
The ability to manipulate objects at an atomic scale

The ability to read and alter one's instinctual values
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Post by: OkashiiKisei on March 19, 2012, 11:27:48 PM
Manipulation of sneezing.

You could really screw others over by just making them sneeze mid-incantation. :V
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Post by: Irate Researchers on March 21, 2012, 06:47:53 AM
the ability to transcribe the thoughts of others to paper.

The ability to write down events that are occurring without being there.

The ability to alter perception.

The ability to make food taste really good.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: HyperGumba on March 24, 2012, 01:22:34 AM
So I was eating a banana today, and all I thought out of freaking nowhere was:

What would happen if someone's powers would be related to bananas?  :derp:

Like, make them grow, use banana familiars, shoot long, bent yellow danmaku... maybe turn things into...

Now I suddenly am reminded of this guy:

(http://nicholasburgess.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Eggplant_wizard_Captain_N1.jpg)

Someone, make him a loli  :getdown:
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Post by: Elysia on March 24, 2012, 02:21:02 AM
The ability to shoot bullets.
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Post by: Starxsword on March 24, 2012, 03:17:31 AM
So I was eating a banana today, and all I thought out of freaking nowhere was:

What would happen if someone's powers would be related to bananas?  :derp:

Like, make them grow, use banana familiars, shoot long, bent yellow danmaku... maybe turn things into...

Now I suddenly am reminded of this guy:

(http://nicholasburgess.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Eggplant_wizard_Captain_N1.jpg)

Someone, make him a loli  :getdown:

There is a manga called Banana no Nana with the protagonist's powers being banana manipulation.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on March 24, 2012, 04:33:47 AM
The ability to alter one's past decisions.

The ability to win any argument.
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Post by: haoreos2 on March 24, 2012, 09:01:32 AM
There is a manga called Banana no Nana with the protagonist's powers being banana manipulation.

Banana na Na~na na na nah naaaah make those lolis sing...
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Mocking Morning on March 26, 2012, 03:42:18 PM
The ability to hinder all forms of movement.


Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Irate Researchers on March 26, 2012, 11:12:38 PM
The ability to manipulate alcohol.  (should be popular with the oni)

The ability to conjure food.
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Post by: iK on March 27, 2012, 05:20:46 AM
Manipulation of x. Not a variable, just anything that happens to be in an "X" shape. None of her bullets are x's though. They're all shaped like eagles kind of.

Oh and she can't manipulate plus sign shaped things, just x shaped things.
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Post by: Irate Researchers on March 27, 2012, 08:18:07 AM
manipulation of manipulation. - The ability to hijack whatever someone else is manipulating.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Sonae on March 27, 2012, 10:24:35 PM
Oh it's been forever since I've looked at this topic.
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Manipulation of missing objects.
You'll never find it now~
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6: Ability to Feed on Souls
Yoshika.
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9: Manipulation of Directions
I wonder if she/he would get lost a lot. That'd be ironic.
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10: Ability to Manipulate the Chemical Properties of Metals
I've thought about using that for a character.
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- Manipulation of Smoke ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enenra
Lololol the irony that I'm making an Enenra character.
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The ability to change the colour of anything.
I mentioned that before.
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One character I created is a Songbird Youkai, who can heal people with her singing abilities.  So her powers are somewhat the opposite of Mystia's in that they help instead of harming.  Though I can see her being more relevant in an RPG spinoff (official or by fans) than a danmaku games...she's not really a good fighter and if she were in a game she'd probably be a Stage 1 boss that happened to get attacked just because she wandered into Reimu or Marisa's path.
Oh what a coincidence, I have a flamingo that does a similar thing.
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how about a character that creates explosions from impact?
How about a character that can create explosions from air?
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The ability to manipulate the extent of electromagnetic waves.
Or just Manipulation of Magnetic Force.
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Ability to the extent of manipulating states [of matter]
I've been thinking of that one too.
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Manipulation of Energy/Matter.
If you control energy, you control everything? Because everything IS energy
Meiling
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manipulation of water.
Nitori
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The ability to break barriers.
I'd say enough firepower can bring you that.
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The ability to cause spontaneous combustion of objects.
oh fun.
-player combusts spontaneously-
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Reimu can already do this. That's pretty much entirely what PCB Extra/Phantasm was all about; Reimu broke the barrier to the netherworld at the end of stage 4 (iirc, just by touching it), and they have to pester Yukari to fix it.
Uh. No, Yukari weakened the barrier and Ghosts were escaping.
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The ability to teleport.
lololololol.
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Manipulation of sneezing.
That'd be a BITCH.
Every time I sneeze while playing danmaku I fuck up soon after :(
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The ability to win any argument.
Persuasion/Negotiation Success could achieve that.

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Now for some of mine? Les see -digs out ideas-
Ability to turn the tables
Ability to provoke ones anger
Ability to cause curses
Ability to transfer thoughts into someone else's mind
Shield Generation
Ability to stop mana/chi flow
Ability to create light
Ability to deny rest
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: fondue on March 28, 2012, 07:50:14 AM
To create illusions and hallucinations that can be turned real at any moment.
Manipulation of physics.
Able to create wishes.
Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: Mеа on March 28, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
So I was eating a banana today, and all I thought out of freaking nowhere was:

What would happen if someone's powers would be related to bananas?  :derp:

Like, make them grow, use banana familiars, shoot long, bent yellow danmaku... maybe turn things into...

Now I suddenly am reminded of this guy:

(http://nicholasburgess.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Eggplant_wizard_Captain_N1.jpg)

Someone, make him a loli  :getdown:

Challenge Accepted

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Title: Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on March 28, 2012, 01:51:19 PM
Manipulation of microwaves.

People go pop~

Challenge Accepted

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Now that is adorabubble~

Now I'm wondering what you would do with the Tempura Wizard from Kid Icarus Uprising. :V