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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #540 on: July 20, 2013, 06:06:10 PM »
Stage 6 boss: Here's the interesting stuff. There are probably two Stage 6 bosses, like in Imperishable Night, but you don't choose which one you'll fight. If you're carrying the corrupted weapon, you'll fight an important boss, but not the one who started the whole incident (like Eirin). If you're not carrying any weapons, you'll fight the true boss (probably a Mirror Youkai since it's said that DDC is related to mirrors).
Actually, Eirin is the one who set up the fake moon in IN; Kaguya rushed in to help her after you (as in, the player characters) defeat her and later undid your eternal night spell. Also, the stage 6 boss being entirely dependent on your shottype frankly doesn't sound like a good idea if it prevents shottypes from getting a good ending or scoring benefits.
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Extra Boss: Extra Midboss could be Kagerou on steroids or a returning character. Extra Boss is someone new (obviously), related to the story, who could have some kind of relationship to Stage 6 boss/bosses.
Kagerou could work like a reverse Keine in that you fight her human form (if she even has one) during the extra stage.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #541 on: July 20, 2013, 06:13:42 PM »
That's what I mean!

In Stage 3 you confront Kagerou on her werewolf form.
In Imperishable Night's Stage 3 you confront Keine in her human form.

So...
In Extra Stage you'll confront human Kagerou.
In Imperishable Night's Extra Stage you confront Keine in her hakutaku form.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #542 on: July 20, 2013, 06:17:23 PM »
I bet Wakashihime will actually replace Kagerou. I mean, her ability is that she is stronger underwater, so maybe while underwater she gets a massive power gain.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #543 on: July 20, 2013, 06:20:47 PM »
I bet Wakashihime will actually replace Kagerou. I mean, her ability is that she is stronger underwater, so maybe while underwater she gets a massive power gain.
Exactly my thought.
Sekibanki seems to be the one who understands the most of what's going on, but Wasakagihime is the only one so far which seems to have a power gain ability which she hasn't used yet.

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Re: Touhou 14 - Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #544 on: July 20, 2013, 06:26:31 PM »
I think Yamamoto's got it. Looking forward to hot, non-furry Kagerou.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #545 on: July 20, 2013, 06:49:20 PM »
Arielhime isn't going to be the EX midboss because Stage 1 bosses are never the EX midboss.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #546 on: July 20, 2013, 06:56:47 PM »
I can't think about Wakasagihime being EX midboss.

My EX midboss theory says that we'll confront Kagerou in her human form (like EXKeine being a hakutaku).

Sekibanki could be EX midboss too, but I don't think that could happen.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #547 on: July 20, 2013, 07:06:35 PM »
In what sort of logic would apply that the human form of character is stronger than their beast form?No seriously, I myself cannot imagine Kagerou in her human form to be stronger than her werewolf form.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #548 on: July 20, 2013, 07:11:02 PM »
In what sort of logic would apply that the human form of character is stronger than their beast form?No seriously, I myself cannot imagine Kagerou in her human form to be stronger than her werewolf form.
All sorts of ways - could be smarter in human form, and therefore more able to spin out harder danmaku; could be stronger by virtue of not having fur in the way, who knows?

Yeah, it's all speculation, but Yamamoto made a nice catch there. I mean, Stage 3 has a very specific Imperishable Night feel to it, in terms of art and music. Keine was the Stage 3 boss of IN. If the Extra midboss in IN was a human in beast form, the extra midboss of DDC could very well be a beast in human form. It fits pretty nicely, I think.

And watch as ZUN does something totally different.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #549 on: July 20, 2013, 07:18:15 PM »
@Tengukami

Stage 3 reminded me lots of IN's Stage 3 (The whole bamboo forest thing), and the music felt like IN's. This, and Kagerou being a werewolf and showing up in her werewolf form made me speculate.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #550 on: July 20, 2013, 07:29:38 PM »
Wakasagihime being Extra midboss would be a bad idea unless the boss of said Extra stage is another water related Youkai.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #551 on: July 20, 2013, 08:26:24 PM »
It`s already late July.

Why TH14 Silhouette cover hasn`t been released yet?  i wonder what is ZUN doing?

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #552 on: July 20, 2013, 09:09:57 PM »
I'll continue with my theories.

Stage 4 boss: Could be like Kasumi Shindou from Marine Benefit's Stage 4 (each character takes different spellcards),...
Like Patchouli, Prismrivers, Reimu/Marisa or Satori.

I hope to see something like that.

It`s already late July.

Why TH14 Silhouette cover hasn`t been released yet?  i wonder what is ZUN doing?
Because he does that the day before the release date.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #553 on: July 20, 2013, 09:31:15 PM »
Because he does that the day before the release date.

Interestingly enough, ZUN revealed Subterranean Animism's cover ten days (Aug 6th) before the game's release (Aug 16th).

I'm pretty sure it has been the day before release with the other games, though.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #554 on: July 20, 2013, 11:10:45 PM »
Perhaps the ex boss will be the boss of the misty lake?  That'd explain it being underwater. 

Alternatively, everybody's making theories and in reality the ex boss will just be
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #555 on: July 20, 2013, 11:45:34 PM »
EXAya!?

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The EX boss could be someone with a relationship with Stage 6's. Or a returning character. Or
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« Reply #556 on: July 21, 2013, 12:36:43 AM »
EXAya!?

"Ayayaya... RAYMOO HAKURAY! Eye heard ya dan't want to answah Aya's questions for her interveew, so eye'll just kick your Shrine Maiden @$$ *sudden camera spam* *pchunn*"

The EX boss could be someone with a relationship with Stage 6's. Or a returning character. Or
Spoiler:
Mima

EX Boss will obviously be Liquid Ocelot, who inspired the culprit to control the stuff after she saw him use Sons and Guns of the Patriots in the outside world/after he told her about it.


Anyway, in all seriousness, hoping for the water-powered mermaid.
Smarter Kagerou doesn't necessarily mean stronger. Maybe better tactics... so better spell cards... but I'll go with EX Kagerou as midboss and EX mermaid as boss.
...Maybe Hatate will be the EX boss because she wanted to do a report on it?

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #557 on: July 21, 2013, 02:50:30 AM »
With this whole "double dealing" business, I think we might be getting a Kirin/unicorn or a Hikyuu/chimera. Ex mid boss will be Sekibanki on an undead horse :V
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #558 on: July 21, 2013, 03:45:18 AM »
Ex mid boss will be Sekibanki on an undead horse :V
dont get my hopes up man

I guess it'd be too much to also ask for a spinal cord whip, huh
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #559 on: July 21, 2013, 03:46:36 AM »
With this whole "double dealing" business, I think we might be getting a Kirin/unicorn or a Hikyuu/chimera. Ex mid boss will be Sekibanki on an undead horse :V

Headless Horsewoman of the Sleepy Village?

Super-mermaid please. At least there's an explanation for a power-up.

Actually, what if Liquid Ocelot was the Stage 6 boss, and Solid Snake was the EX Boss? Otacon could be the EX Midboss.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #560 on: July 21, 2013, 04:23:02 AM »
Better question, why not make a female youkai version of Solid Snake?

Also, Water god/godess sounds kinda cliche. Probably a Byrakuren/Merman/King cross or something (But female)? Who knows, plus it's the only way Wakasagihime will ever get a chance of being EX midboss. Said Water godess would probably be Waka's mom or something.

I dunno really....
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #561 on: July 21, 2013, 04:44:25 AM »
Better question, why not make a female youkai version of Solid Snake?

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #562 on: July 21, 2013, 07:25:37 AM »
So I was wandering on the wiki and I noticed they translated the prologue and

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Clouds of unease were gradually beginning to cover the sky.
The sound of a huge building, creaking in the strong wind.
Discord echoed across Gensokyo.

And let's not forget the title of the game Touhou Kishinjou "Eastern Castle of Shining Needles"

So this means we got a castle in the sky confirmed?

Maybe Stage 4 will be our way on the clouds like in PCB

Stage 5 might be inside the castle

And Stage 6 might be a tower or a room inside.

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« Reply #563 on: July 21, 2013, 08:35:49 AM »
Better question, why not make a female youkai version of Solid Snake?

We already have Nitori.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #564 on: July 21, 2013, 10:09:34 AM »
So I was wandering on the wiki and I noticed they translated the prologue and

And let's not forget the title of the game Touhou Kishinjou "Eastern Castle of Shining Needles"

So this means we got a castle in the sky confirmed?

Maybe Stage 4 will be our way on the clouds like in PCB

Stage 5 might be inside the castle

And Stage 6 might be a tower or a room inside.
Well, at least for the three previous main titles, the title always referred to the location. So I think it is safe to say that we see a new building (castle) within Gensoukyou. If it's in the air? Nah.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #565 on: July 21, 2013, 01:24:12 PM »
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« Reply #566 on: July 21, 2013, 02:54:23 PM »


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« Reply #567 on: July 21, 2013, 06:33:18 PM »
"Eastern Castle of Shining Needles"

If that's true, the final boss/bosses will appear in a castle, and following Stage 3, it could happen like this:

Stage 4:
"Suddenly, a mirror appears in front of (character you're using). Before getting closer, (Stage 4 boss) appears in front of (character you're using) and they fight. (Character you're using) wins, and the mirror brings her to a mysterious castle filled with mirrors..."

Stage 5 is like PCB's but in a mirrored hall and Stage 6 is like PCB's but in a room.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #568 on: July 21, 2013, 07:40:13 PM »
"Eastern Castle of Shining Needles"

Also, according to the wiki, part of the game's title (輝針城 - Kishinjou) is pronounced the same way as the word "Oni God" (which is written in a different way though, 鬼神).

Subtle hint or coincidence?

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character (Demo)
« Reply #569 on: July 21, 2013, 07:49:06 PM »
Probably coincidence, given the way characters work.

I swear the wiki is turning into TVTropes more and more by the day.

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