~Hakurei Shrine~ => Help Me, Eirin! => Topic started by: Alfred F. Jones on April 19, 2011, 08:10:23 AM
Title: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on April 19, 2011, 08:10:23 AM
Right then, we all know (and take advantage of) the more amusing bugs features (http://i.imgur.com/FJKTp.jpg) in Touhou like MarisaBugged in MoF or the MAlice cannon in IN, and at least know of things like Merupo even if we've never experienced them ourselves. But tonight, I came across some interesting bugs in Subterranean Animism that I had never heard of, and while experienced players doubtlessly know about them, I can't bring myself to believe that it's common knowledge in any sense.
Therefore, in the interests of making more obscure bugs come to light, here goes. Entry #01: When you play alongside Aya, you play alongside a GOD!
The relevant bit is at around 1:01, and picks up again at 1:40-ish.
From my understanding, (and I quote from the video description for the next example of this glitch) this bug works on all bosses that have midstage dialogue; presumably ZUN programmed the damage engine to treat them like normal enemies that could be destroyed when attacked enough. Only the ReimuC (Reimu/Aya)and MarisaB (Marisa/Patchy) bombs deal enough damage fast enough to destroy the bosses.
To wit: Entry #02: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANspUlv_odk) Turning the tables on Hell's Traffic Accident Entry #03: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn-eZUYqwA4) Wind God Girl vs Wind Good Girl
I've never encountered this bug myself, but hell yes am I going to go try them out now.
Are there any other lesser-known bugs you folks have encountered while playing Touhou? Fighting game glitches also welcome. Note: for the purposes of this thread, demos should not really be counted, since they're riddled with bugs anyway, but I would still appreciate them being brought to light, so mention demo bugs regardless.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 19, 2011, 08:21:44 AM
This is a bug I discovered all the way back in 2008. I was doing a random and unremarkable (frankly, it was bad) practice run of MoF stage 6 on hard mode. Right at the end of VoWG, I death bombed, and out of the blue came this:
(http://i52.tinypic.com/edkt0.png)
Big sis Kanako is watching. 8( I've never been able to replicate it, but I still have the replay because it's so unique.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: J.O.B on April 19, 2011, 08:41:55 AM
Lol that was gonna be my glitch :(
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Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 19, 2011, 11:58:22 AM
Oh hey, I got this once too when trying to timeout the thing.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: ふねん1 on April 19, 2011, 12:52:29 PM
Here's a TD demo bug for you Ruro, one that I don't think anyone else has mentioned yet. I certainly hope ZUN catches and fixes this, since I think it's a big enough deal. Here's the replay. (http://replay.royalflare.net/replay/th13_udm596.rpy) In Stage 2, just before the first section of bomb/life part fairies, I have 7 fragments for each counter. I enter Trance to get double spirits, but oddly, when I get enough green spirits for another bomb, the game only gave me one green spirit instead of two (you'll see a progression of 7->9->0->2). The life counter fortunately doesn't do that, though I have been able to reproduce the one for bombs. Given the Trance locations I have in mind and how this counter works right now, it's possible to get the last full bomb at the end of Yoshika's second card, though I really should be getting a new bomb by Kyouko's third card (reaching 10 on the counter rather than 9) instead of in the middle of Stage 3.
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Post by: chirpy13 on April 19, 2011, 02:17:59 PM
SoEW - Bullet hitboxes are too big IN - Lol timeouts. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXJEd2Gzl4g) (only spell this works on I believe) MoF - This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du5mgVAk2Lk#t=3m30s) (see first spell for effects), and the obvious bugged MarisaB. SA - Unlike other extra bosses, Koishi's last spell will not speed up when the timer gets low, so you can just time it out in the first phase. UFO - ReimuB's bomb will damage Nue a bit. DS - Invisible bullets in 12-6
That's all I can think of right now.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Turtlesaur on April 19, 2011, 03:05:03 PM
EoSD: Bombing at the very end of a Scarlet Gensokyo timeout causes Remilia to sit there for quite a while doing nothing. She still goes through the proper death animation after a minute or so. PCB: The blue lasers on Butterfly in the Zen Temple can sometimes reappear in the noncard afterwards, seemingly related to clearing the card during a swap. Rare, seems to be frame-precise. IN: In spell practice, you can die to Hourai Elixir after gaining the capture bonus by bumping into Kaguya. You'll die but it will still count as a clear for your history. Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=13329) SA: Timing out either of stage 5 midboss Orin's noncards skips Cat's Walk entirely, including life piece. Can arguably be useful and is somewhat known because of that.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on April 19, 2011, 03:35:31 PM
Stage 5 Orin is probably intentional.
That Remilia final thing also happens on Flandre's QED
I've had the blue laser thing happen on Ultimate Buddhist a few times
Koishi timeout might be intended.
I've never pulled that ReimuC trick on Yuugi or Sanae. I have done it to Stage 6 midboss Orin once on accident, and it cost me some of the power I could of used to 1cc. The run that happened in ended with a double KO on the final card.
Also:
Reimu's Scattered Spirit Fantasy Seal Fader has an invisible bullets bug thing like 12-6, but only in spell practice.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: chirpy13 on April 19, 2011, 04:00:53 PM
Speaking of stage 5 Orin, that reminds me of something that came up a couple weeks ago in the EoSD spell capture round. Rumia will use her midboss spellcard if you timeout her nonspell on easy.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: ARF on April 19, 2011, 04:02:13 PM
I've had the options for Reimu C in MoF take the shape of japanese kanji(?) during stage 2 practice.
Speaking of stage 5 Orin, that reminds me of something that came up a couple weeks ago in the EoSD spell capture round. Rumia will use her midboss spellcard if you timeout her nonspell on easy.
Wow, that's cool!
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on April 19, 2011, 04:08:07 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXEKGJY3RHk) bug from Hisoutensoku. Apparently Suwako doesn't like fighting that much. :V
I always thought that this only happened in typhoons, since that's when she always did this, until I had her inactive during a different weather, which only happened once.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Jaimers on April 19, 2011, 04:11:32 PM
Reimu's Scattered Spirit Fantasy Seal Fader has an invisible bullets bug thing like 12-6, but only in spell practice.
Yeah that happened to me once, seems pretty rare though. here's a replay of it. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8713) Shinki bug in MS. Spontaneously die if you're high on the screen before the fight.
If you kill either Yuki or Mai while they are firing their cheeto lasers the lasers will freeze in place until the background is changed for the next fight.
Sometimes at the beginning of Hourai Jewel a single red bullet might bounce upwards from the bottom of the screen. Can catch you off-guard.
Also in GFW leftover ice during nonspells carries over to the next spellcard, reducing a chunk of it's health without failing the gold medal requirement. Makes it easier to get gold medals. Doesn't work with perfect freeze.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Aba Matindesu! on April 19, 2011, 05:41:23 PM
Sometimes at the beginning of Hourai Jewel a single red bullet might bounce upwards from the bottom of the screen. Can catch you off-guard.
Had this; doesn't it have something to do with aim?
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: NEETori on April 19, 2011, 06:03:49 PM
I'm not sure if this is a glitch or intentional, but the flame trails on Patchy's default 236BC in Hisoutensoku deal damage at level 1+.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 19, 2011, 07:30:07 PM
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Also in GFW leftover ice during nonspells carries over to the next spellcard, reducing a chunk of it's health without failing the gold medal requirement. Makes it easier to get gold medals. Doesn't work with perfect freeze.
Speaking of, a couple glitches in that delightful romp of a game:
During the fight against Luna Child in either B2-2 or C2-2 (can't remember which :(), one of her spell cards can inexplicably stop firing bullets. It will simply stop firing and you can shoot her freely until it times out.
I haven't tested this myself, but I have it on good authority that if you suicide right before a spell card starts, you can clear the first wave of bullets and still be able to capture or even gold medal the card. More an oversight than a bug, but still.
Oh yes, and the infamous glitch in LLS where at random starting a boss fight will cause a warp in reality as we know it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5-U9LgiyAw).
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Esoterica on April 19, 2011, 10:48:58 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXEKGJY3RHk) bug from Hisoutensoku. Apparently Suwako doesn't like fighting that much. :V
I always thought that this only happened in typhoons, since that's when she always did this, until I had her inactive during a different weather, which only happened once.
Suwako AI is derp, even by Soku standards. :V
And as long as we're on Soku glitches~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Zdka0nucY)
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on April 20, 2011, 04:15:49 AM
Sometimes the unexplainable happens during a fight with a certain vampire. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maJRrJ9528E) Warning: Video is a bit loud.
Ok, so maybe not so unexplainable. Read the first post you see (under uploader comments) I will laugh when I see Kanako acting like an idiot.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 20, 2011, 06:43:12 AM
Oh yes, I had forgotten about that one. It happens with Remilia as well FYI.
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Post by: NEETori on April 20, 2011, 06:53:43 AM
IIRC, someone discovered that in SA, with ReimuC, if you use Aya's dash, you can pass straight through some of the smaller bullets.
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Post by: Agent of the BSoD on April 20, 2011, 07:07:43 AM
IIRC, someone discovered that in SA, with ReimuC, if you use Aya's dash, you can pass straight through some of the smaller bullets.
You can do that in DS I believe. (not sure about StB) The trick to that is that for every frame, your character will move a certain amount. With Aya's high speed, she's moving more than a normal character's speed, meaning that they will get repositioned on the screen further each frame. The issue with that is that when they move, they can literally pass over a bullet / laser and be fine because they didn't actually touch it yet, whereas with Reimu, she doesn't have a chance to do that, nor Marisa. (unless said Reimu + Aya)
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Post by: ARF on April 20, 2011, 03:01:00 PM
Not really a glitch, but while looking through my spellcard history in player data in the TD trial I found that spell no.7 and 8 are both marked as undiscovered, which seems strange.
Last words that didn't make it to the game?
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: chirpy13 on April 20, 2011, 03:24:47 PM
Was going to post a few last night, but my browser went down - you know, like when it can't connect to the internet until you restart, even though you're technically still connected? Anyway, here we go!
Patchy 2a (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1iIDeh-ZEw) Go through opponent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLiMGthKmI#t=22s) Mostly hitbox oddities, but there's some weird ones (eg. Sakuya walking through Remi, Alice freezing in mid-air, timeslow after KO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rLbK-q3aco) Giant Suika isn't very smart. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTOPS8Dpr_g)
Getting away from fighters... The infamous Merlin glitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFqyeapIEsY). Er... THIS video!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU2Z6VobIvc)
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Post by: Tengukami on April 20, 2011, 03:26:21 PM
brb, gonna 1cc every Touhou game.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 20, 2011, 09:20:06 PM
A pretty minor one, but a bug nonetheless. If you pause after defeating the final boss in PCB or IN and pause during the fade to white, the fade will continue, even while paused. Obviously this causes a problem when you unpause and the fade reaches maximum before the game cuts to the ending/replay save screen. It's pretty amusing.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on April 21, 2011, 12:19:12 AM
Just found this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxmBcr8y6T4). Which reminded me of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91wQLE3hd1w).
Both from StB where bosses seem to replace other bosses. It's never happened to me though.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on April 21, 2011, 04:59:07 AM
Here's some more, cause I really, REALLY, love glitches. <3
Hisoutensoku Glitch - Flat Youmu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N69wRyD_XMU) Going through bullets on IN spell # 65 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a_OTK1svX0)
The flat Youmu makes sense, in which it's easy to understand why it happens. As for the IN spell, I should try it sometime to see if that was a one time thing or not.
Fake Edit: Actually, now that I look at it, maybe the IN one isn't a glitch. The cards aren't exactly lined up with her hitbox, but it is so close that one would think that that would kill her. I was pretty sure that their hitboxes were a bit bigger than that though.
Real Edit: Another IN bug, with stage 4a boss Reimu. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYXiYqwnPDk) Apparently, only in spell practice, when you fight this spell, and she flies off screen, the spell practice ends and marks it as a failed attempt. Haven't tested this myself yet but this is pretty interesting. ZUN probably forgot to add a block of code for that part, I'm guessing. :P
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Post by: chirpy13 on April 21, 2011, 03:28:59 PM
Fake Edit: Actually, now that I look at it, maybe the IN one isn't a glitch. The cards aren't exactly lined up with her hitbox, but it is so close that one would think that that would kill her. I was pretty sure that their hitboxes were a bit bigger than that though.
Yeah, that definitely looks like hitbox sizes to me. Yukari's is already pretty small, and the amulet hitboxes are much smaller than they appear (around pellet-size I think?).
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: AJS on April 22, 2011, 12:21:17 AM
Occasionally, when you beat Flandre's Cranberry Trap, two bullets from the spell card will remain as Flan continues onward with her second non-spell.
Here's an old replay of it happening. But it certainly was not the last time that it happened to me.
Um, yeah. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZRJD7y3hc) My video on youtube shows that too btw. :3
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on April 22, 2011, 05:12:43 PM
Hey, Donut, do you still have that screenshot of Kurumi on lunatic with her single bullet she throws at you right before the dialogue? It might not be a bug, but it's still kinda weird.
Hey, Donut, do you still have that screenshot of Kurumi on lunatic with her single bullet she throws at you right before the dialogue?
I don't recall ever taking a screencap of it. ??? I never thought of that as a glitch, more as Kurumi making a cheap shot. She's not confident enough to think she can win by fighting fair. :(
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Post by: chirpy13 on April 22, 2011, 05:24:40 PM
Hey, Donut, do you still have that screenshot of Kurumi on lunatic with her single bullet she throws at you right before the dialogue? It might not be a bug, but it's still kinda weird.
Yeah, that always happens on Lunatic (maybe not on min rank?). I believe she'll shoot a second one too a bit later if you're at max rank.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on April 22, 2011, 05:27:45 PM
Yeah, that always happens on Lunatic (maybe not on min rank?). I believe she'll shoot a second one too a bit later if you're at max rank.
You do raise an interesting question, albeit indirectly: How do we separate the bugs from the features in Touhou? Some are obvious, some are not. (I like to think MAlice Cannon is a feature.)
Also, I'm surprised to see less DS/StB/GFW glitches than I thought there would be.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on April 22, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
That's how you showed me the cheap shot in question. and if the screenshot doesn't exist, go grab it now
From my memory, I told you about it way back when, and you were all "whut" and then came back after trying it and was all "omg Kurumi iz so awwsuuuume." :* But if you really want it, a video will do better (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ph1hONqZHc#t=300).
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Also, I'm surprised to see less DS/StB/GFW glitches than I thought there would be.
Hmm...I don't think this one's been mentioned:
In Fairy Wars, if you deathbomb, the secondary bomb counter in the lower part of the screen won't show you as losing a bomb, though the actual perfect freeze counter will indeed drop by 100%.
Oh! And one regarding MoF extra: I don't understand exactly how it works, but if you start the fight on top of Suwako for whatever reason, her first spell card will completely bug out and become nearly impossible. Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMCGgs8J00A)
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Post by: Sapz on April 22, 2011, 06:11:23 PM
Oh! And one regarding MoF extra: I don't understand exactly how it works, but if you start the fight on top of Suwako for whatever reason, her first spell card will completely bug out and become nearly impossible. Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMCGgs8J00A)
I'd call this one more of a feature than a bug. At the very beginning of the card, the waves are 'aimed' for the rest of the attack - the waves will keep closing in on whatever direction you were away from Suwako at the time. In this vid, he was probably to the right of Suwako (however slightly) as the card started. IIRC, you can sit behind Suwako at the start and move back down immediately, and ignore the waves entirely since they're heading upwards. :V
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Post by: Drake on April 22, 2011, 08:38:53 PM
Yeah, but the aiming is definitely unintentional. It might have been intentional at some point, but I kind of out it was kept on purpose.
calling malice cannon a feature is just an excuse to use it without feeling as cheap as mof marisab lol
[ruro]Yeah but IN is a terrible game so :derp:[/ruro]
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Post by: chirpy13 on April 22, 2011, 11:10:45 PM
Oh! And one regarding MoF extra: I don't understand exactly how it works, but if you start the fight on top of Suwako for whatever reason, her first spell card will completely bug out and become nearly impossible. Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMCGgs8J00A)
Also, I'm surprised to see less DS/StB/GFW glitches than I thought there would be.
DS has stage 12-6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KlN0x4I4HM&feature=related). StB has glitchy boss appearances. GFW has history issues, which an unofficial patch fixes. :3
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Post by: nintendonut888 on April 23, 2011, 02:13:07 AM
Don't forget the glitch in all games from MoF on where the score.dat can get corrupted randomly. :] I've had it happen multiple times for MoF, UFO and Fairy Wars.
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Post by: Agent of the BSoD on April 23, 2011, 09:07:35 AM
Don't forget the glitch in all games from MoF on where the score.dat can get corrupted randomly. :] I've had it happen multiple times for MoF, UFO and Fairy Wars.
What? I've never had that happen in those games. I've had a score.dat get "corrupted", I guess. I mean, it didn't get damaged at all, just confused. It was IN and Reisen's last spell (not word) in my spell practice for Border Team says 1/1 for the capture. I actually tried it just a few times, and failed them all. Loaded it up some time later to find that. ??? No idea why.
The other time was with SWR. It was determined that I hadn't beaten story with all the characters and reset me back to the standard when you haven't played it yet. Odd thing about it was that my Result screen showed that I cleared it with every character in the game. I'm not sure how it came to the conclusion that I hadn't cleared it when I had. Luckily, I made a backup of my score file for that game a few days before that happened, so I didn't lose anything except a few cards I unlocked.
Other than that, no other score.dat's have been damaged. However, my SoEW consistently gets screwed up (I don't use savestates), to where at the end of fighting Mima, right when she's done dying, I get the evil red lettered text saying STOP and japanese characters everywhere. The high score table, when viewed under this, is a garbled mess, with random text in every which way on the screen. My score stuff in that game is good at getting screwed up. But only that one. It's not like it was a well designed game anyway.
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Post by: touhoumaniac on April 23, 2011, 09:59:54 AM
Don't forget the glitch in all games from MoF on where the score.dat can get corrupted randomly. :] I've had it happen multiple times for MoF, UFO and Fairy Wars.
For some reason I read that as replays before. Which now reminds me to bring up the point that MoF replays will sometimes crash at the end, and SA replays will sometimes desync :(. Not sure if other 10+ game replays desync.
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Post by: touhoumaniac on April 23, 2011, 11:22:28 AM
Is it normal for komachi, after having died against her previously 4 times, to survive in easy mode for almost 4 minutes? :V (http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2151/easykomachi.jpg)
I sense easy mode high score abuse potential. Theory: Extra timer is hidden for story mode, but the same algorithms still dictate the flow of the game. Also minimum time to survive for a opponent player acts in a similar way. I watched one of my easy replays and saw that komachi died in 2:35 or 165 seconds (so perhaps about 150 seconds if removing the time dilations for spell card shooting), so if easy works like extra, then komachi will potentially be able to survive for at least 150 / 50 = x / 120 >>> x = 360 or about 6 minutes :3
EDIT: Actually the second time i tried this komachi died just before 4 minutes. And easy reimu dies also at 4 minutes so i suspect that extra 120 seconds = easy 240 seconds or 4 minutes. For easy mode this wont be any good, but maybe for higher difficulties considering how long the final battle can potentially last there
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Post by: かけふみ on April 23, 2011, 02:58:07 PM
Hey, Donut, do you still have that screenshot of Kurumi on lunatic with her single bullet she throws at you right before the dialogue? It might not be a bug, but it's still kinda weird.
WHAT IS A MAN!? *glass crashes*
Anyway I remember during the fade-out sequences in PCB and IN after beating a final boss, if you quit to the main screen the screen will continue fading out. Then, things returns to normal. More funny than anything else.
I also remember leftovers from Murasa's Sinking Vortex carried onto her 3rd and most horrible nonspell, from the top of the screen. D: Its a very consistent bug, happens if you shoot her to death without bombing, or some other requisite, cant remember much.
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Post by: Paper Conan on April 23, 2011, 04:53:20 PM
I also remember leftovers from Murasa's Sinking Vortex carried onto her 3rd and most horrible nonspell, from the top of the screen. D: Its a very consistent bug, happens if you shoot her to death without bombing, or some other requisite, cant remember much.
That sounds more like a feature since, come one, she's Nazrin Captain Murasa MOTHERFUCKING Minamitsu. /kidding
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Post by: nintendonut888 on April 23, 2011, 05:26:41 PM
It's more of a feature, but one minor obscure detail is that Byakuren's hitbox disappears after her third spell card in UFO. Sadly this makes her Superhuman Soccer maneuver impossible. ;_;
And on that note, boss hitboxes just plain don't exist in LLS. :] They were there in SoEW, back in MS, but missing from LLS.
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Post by: chirpy13 on April 23, 2011, 10:44:04 PM
Does the spellcard bonus look a bit off to you? :]
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Oh right, I forgot about that. Baity put that up on Youtube btw. Here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi8Dd20tOPM)
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Post by: touhoumaniac on April 25, 2011, 07:48:00 PM
PoFV reisen level 1 spell at point blank range in case the enemy dies before bullet from level 1 spell either explodes or appears results in bullet (or explosion?) teleporting immediately to the top of the screen.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on April 26, 2011, 04:39:39 PM
Not really sure if I'd call it a glitch (more of a bug, really), but Youmu's bomb in the Ten Desires demo will cause replays to desync. I have one saved where, during the run, her bomb took out three fairies out of four, and I shot the last one to death. In the replay, it only took out two of them -- one being the one I killed normally -- so I ended up shooting at empty space and eventually running into bullets. I believe it caused me to game over just before reaching boss!Kyouko even though I'd 1cced the run.
There's also a Soku glitch I know of, but given the title of the video, I'd feel a bit narcissistic for linking it. Essentially, if you manage to light up all seven orbs of Fantasy Heaven on the third round just as the timer for activation runs out, you'll hear the music, but won't actually use the attack.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 26, 2011, 04:48:33 PM
Speaking of replay desynchs, MoF stage 4 sometimes desynchs in replays for an unknown reason. For a more consistent problem with an equally unknown cause, full game replays will always desynch on SA stage 6 if the replay starts from that stage. The only way around it is to start from stage 5 or earlier.
EDIT: Aah, I just remembered another one. For how much it's hated, HRtP is pretty bug-free (made up for of course by quirks in the game engine). There are two bugs I can think of:
1. Whenever you try and fire Reimu's ofuda spam, there's a good chance it will turn into a bomb instead. This is more a mapping issue than anything, but it's all the more reason to never use this useless technique.
2. Sometimes, the game will crash upon dealing the final blow to Sariel.
Oh, and if it hasn't been explicitly mentioned, the STOP KEY bug will essentially end your current play session at complete random with an unescapable black screen. Of course, this is an emulator glitch that would be solvable with the click of a button if it were played on a real PC-98. I call it a glitch because it happens even if you don't have the stop key mapped to the keyboard.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on April 27, 2011, 01:26:55 AM
Yeah, that stop key screen just kills me. Apparently Next likes to destroy the score files in SoEW for me. Hasn't happened much to the others. (actually at all)
Also, not sure on this one, but on my system, using the Preload bgm into memory option in the custom.exe for PoFV causes the music to stick to the title screen music when listened to under the Music menu for every song. Not sure if that's just my computer or if everyone has that issue.
And I'm just gonna point this out because no one else has, on the topic of replays, IaMP loves to screw up story mode replays when fighting Youmu and Yukari. Youmu is the most often case, and I have examples of screwed up replays too. They get to the point where they just stand there and don't do anything, because at that point, the match is over, even though the replay shows them still alive.
AND, one more to point out about replays. On SWR, when viewing a story mode replay, the music often quits. Usually stage one music will be gone, or it'll be there but the rest of the stages will be silent. (sound effects still happen) It killed me when I was trying to record the Patchouli lunatic 1cc for Youtube because I had to keep starting over.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: chirpy13 on April 27, 2011, 01:53:23 AM
And I'm just gonna point this out because no one else has, on the topic of replays, IaMP loves to screw up story mode replays when fighting Youmu and Yukari. Youmu is the most often case, and I have examples of screwed up replays too. They get to the point where they just stand there and don't do anything, because at that point, the match is over, even though the replay shows them still alive.
Watching replays in th075tool will fix this however.
Since you mentioned PoFV, I will also just mention all the bugs with Adonis. And by mention them all, I mean just pointing out that it has a lot of bugs >_>.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2011, 02:19:12 AM
Is the STOP KEY glitch really that common on Next? It's happened exactly once for me on Anex86. ???
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on April 27, 2011, 02:28:21 AM
Yup, I remember the STOP KEY problem. It happened to me a couple years ago when I was playing LLS.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on April 27, 2011, 03:33:47 AM
For the longest time, it happened to me very often, till I wiped the scores and replaced them with a backup I made. EditDisk is so very helpful with this. Also, it didn't matter which emulator I used, it showed up on both. Though I was using Next when this was created so...
It was happening with SoEW when the english patch was first released. It showed up ONLY when Mima was defeated, right then and there without fail. (didn't matter which shot type either)
EDIT: Does this make it appropriate to say MIMA SAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! :trollface:
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: LHCling on April 27, 2011, 09:48:35 PM
Guys you're starting to list obvious glitches.
Happy ANZAC Day (http://twitpic.com/4q6500).
Also a big :| at donut for a certain something. /me glares harder
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2011, 10:08:51 PM
Also a big :| at donut for a certain something. /me glares harder
I told it to Sapz, and he agrees your decision to keep this information from the public is more :I Honestly, nobody seems to care about Fairy Wars anyway. More pressingly, I don't think you have any right to keep a glitch from the public, abuse potential aside.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: LHCling on April 28, 2011, 12:44:08 PM
I told it to Sapz, and he agrees your decision to keep this information from the public is more :I Honestly, nobody seems to care about Fairy Wars anyway. More pressingly, I don't think you have any right to keep a glitch from the public, abuse potential aside.
It doesn't matter what the information is. What's bothering me is that you broke a promise to keep it under wraps until I revealed it. Just so you know, it's like blurting out a friend's deepest secret. I should mention that I deal with business in keeping secrets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEkYxvM3V5g#t=3m49s) very, very seriously. Congratulations on this totally auspicious event.
And a right? Really, you're playing that card? It doesn't even matter if it's a glitch or not. Ignoring that, what does it matter whether or not I myself report a glitch? Either somebody else will find it and report it, or nobody will ever find it. What possible negative impact could there be from me not reporting a potentially abusive glitch? Give it a bit of thought; I don't see how this is an issue. Recall what I said about this before? If not, tough cookies. Not reporting it is was, in my opinion for the best of the community as a whole for reasons that were previously stated in private.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 28, 2011, 03:12:35 PM
Yes, I'm sorry I broke a promise to you. That that is wrong on principle is all I will agree to you. Still, don't get so angry over it. I can bet you the average passerby in this thread has no idea which glitch we're even talking about. I mean, it's not as though this is Malice Cannon level or Marisa B level - this is a glitch you have to suicide for it to be useful. In your opinion, keeping it a secret was best, but in everyone else who's heard it's opinion, it should be reported to blend into the rich mosaic of glitches.
Sheesh, didn't expect drama to build up in this thread of all things.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Vibri on April 28, 2011, 08:24:41 PM
Gold medals are retarded anyways. fact
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Formless God on April 30, 2011, 09:44:22 PM
Clearing 10D (doesn't matter if it's not a 1cc) will let you control the character in your replays; in other words, a temporary Stage Practice. Make sure to prepare a 3-stage replay with decent resources at the beginning of each stage.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Poochy.EXE on May 02, 2011, 08:13:31 AM
Here's one that happened to me a few years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7O7fdkWs9Y
Edit: Here's a better quality reupload: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znbZSoAlfT4
By a complete accident, the shots I had fired as I got hit traveled up, hit, and the Cherry+ increase from those shots brought my Cherry+ to 50K and activated a Supernatural Border during the death animation. It seemed to count as a broken border AND a death, except it didn't deduct the life, and the next time I was hit, it deducted the life but otherwise didn't seem to count.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: XephyrEnigma on May 02, 2011, 06:06:44 PM
Here's one that happened to me a few years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7O7fdkWs9Y
By a complete accident, the shots I had fired as I got hit traveled up, hit, and the Cherry+ increase from those shots brought my Cherry+ to 50K and activated a Supernatural Border during the death animation. It seemed to count as a broken border AND a death, except it didn't deduct the life, and the next time I was hit, it deducted the life but otherwise didn't seem to count.
I guess you could say... You DeathBordered.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Drake on May 02, 2011, 08:05:38 PM
That's actually what we call it. It's happened to a few other people and has a small spot on the wiki.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on May 02, 2011, 08:17:13 PM
I don't think you're even allowed to bomb after it happens, at least until you die again.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: RegalStar on May 02, 2011, 08:21:40 PM
Deathborder doesn't work like that. I have death bordered twice with Reimu before, and in both times the game went on as normal - you don't lose power as you deathborder, then somehow have your next death not count (except losing a life).
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: XephyrEnigma on May 02, 2011, 10:13:03 PM
Deathborder doesn't work like that. I have death bordered twice with Reimu before, and in both times the game went on as normal - you don't lose power as you deathborder, then somehow have your next death not count (except losing a life).
Okay, I didnt even know that was a legitimate way of "cheating death".(so to speak) My little joke was made under the context of that feature not existing, resulting in what you just described in your last post.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Poochy.EXE on May 02, 2011, 11:20:05 PM
Deathborder doesn't work like that. I have death bordered twice with Reimu before, and in both times the game went on as normal - you don't lose power as you deathborder, then somehow have your next death not count (except losing a life).
I suspect the exact point in the death animation where the border interrupts it may make a difference; and the variant I had occurs if it interrupts late enough in the animation. With Reimu's longer deathbomb grace period, the animation won't get as far before it gets interrupted.
Edit: I tried playing it back frame-by-frame, and it seems which variant occurs depends on whether the border interrupts during the deathbomb grace period or after it's already expired. Incidentally, Sakuya's deathbomb window is exactly 1/10th of a second.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on May 02, 2011, 11:30:18 PM
Watching replays in th075tool will fix this however.
Looking back at this post, no, it didn't work. They did exactly the same thing as under normal replay viewing, when using the th075tool. I don't think I'll ever be able to see the rest of those stages under replays again. :(
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: NEETori on May 03, 2011, 08:11:47 AM
Ten Desires replays are derpy to say the least :P
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: The Greatest Dog on May 03, 2011, 08:15:13 AM
Clearing 10D (doesn't matter if it's not a 1cc) will let you control the character in your replays; in other words, a temporary Stage Practice. Make sure to prepare a 3-stage replay with decent resources at the beginning of each stage.
What the hell. :o GFW needed this at least~
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: chirpy13 on May 03, 2011, 01:21:48 PM
Looking back at this post, no, it didn't work. They did exactly the same thing as under normal replay viewing, when using the th075tool. I don't think I'll ever be able to see the rest of those stages under replays again. :(
I could have sworn it did... Oh well =/.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Aba Matindesu! on May 04, 2011, 01:58:45 PM
I don't know why, I think I just died randomly before the Shinki fight while moving downscreen.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on May 05, 2011, 08:01:42 PM
Shinki bug in MS. Spontaneously die if you're high on the screen before the fight.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 05, 2011, 08:03:47 PM
You know it's odd, I've only ever had that glitch happen when using Mima. Never in all the times I've used Yuka have I died randomly.
It was probably said at some point, but there's a glitch in MoF where if you download a replay that plays stages you yourself haven't cleared yet with that difficulty and shot type, those stages will be unlocked in stage practice.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: touhoumaniac on May 05, 2011, 08:32:59 PM
Just found out that in DS replay can be saved to any of the 25 available save slots, but can only be viewed from first 20 save slots
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Aba Matindesu! on May 06, 2011, 11:46:31 AM
It was probably said at some point, but there's a glitch in MoF where if you download a replay that plays stages you yourself haven't cleared yet with that difficulty and shot type, those stages will be unlocked in stage practice.
Yes, because your replay on the "peeking Kanako" that I found opened up stage 6 practice only. Interesting to have stage 6 and none others. :V
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Koakkuri on May 12, 2011, 09:54:45 PM
I've noticed something strange happening in HRtP: once in a blue moon when fighting Elis, she never chances into her third attack phase (i.e. doesn't turn into a bat), but keeps using her second phase attacks for the last third of the life bar. Then, once you've beaten her, she finally begins the transformation...Only to die before it's complete. I've seen this happen twice, with no idea about what triggers it.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on May 13, 2011, 05:59:45 AM
You reminded me. Speaking of HRtP Ellis, she glitched up on me one time. (maybe twice?) When you deplete her health completely, she doesn't die, so the fight continues. Problem is I don't know if the next hit will kill her since I die after that cause I play lunatic.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: NEETori on May 13, 2011, 06:23:32 AM
I think there's a glitch in the TD replay function. I downloaded a replay, and the player will randomly die as opposed to playing through like normal, and will wipe at random points in the replay.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Koakkuri on May 13, 2011, 08:03:34 AM
You reminded me. Speaking of HRtP Ellis, she glitched up on me one time. (maybe twice?) When you deplete her health completely, she doesn't die, so the fight continues. Problem is I don't know if the next hit will kill her since I die after that cause I play lunatic.
I played around a while trying to replicate the glitch and got this:
Stupid vampires, you're supposed to die when you're dead.
I think it may be the same glitch (she never turned into a bat in this fight), but I perished immediately after taking the picture, so I can't verify it. However, the first time this happened to me she kept teleporting around for quite a while (long enough for me to panic) before finally starting to transform and dying. So I think she'll just eventually croak on her own once you deplete all her health.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on May 13, 2011, 06:49:12 PM
Stupid vampires, you're supposed to die when you're dead.
I think it may be the same glitch (she never turned into a bat in this fight), but I perished immediately after taking the picture, so I can't verify it. However, the first time this happened to me she kept teleporting around for quite a while (long enough for me to panic) before finally starting to transform and dying. So I think she'll just eventually croak on her own once you deplete all her health.
Uh, no? That is exactly what happened to me (couldn't get a pic or vid because un-fullscreening the emulators glitches up the picture) but she was attacking me and changing attacks, not just teleporting. I usually die like 10 to 15 seconds later. :/
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Koakkuri on May 13, 2011, 07:03:42 PM
Huh. Well, it's been a while since it first happened, so there's a chance I'm misremembering things. (She is still attacking in the picture after all.) Or there could be two separate glitches with Elis being hax, who knows? :D
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Aba Matindesu! on May 18, 2011, 11:31:31 AM
PoDD: If you come to a draw in Story Mode, you get the "Lose" sign, yet still advance to the next round.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on May 21, 2011, 07:11:04 AM
Just noticed this. On IaMP, once you finish a match, when you click Quit, (possibly save replay and quit as well) keep clicking it before it fades out completely. You'll keep hearing the sound so it's as if you've clicked quit many times. Just keep pressing that A button. :colonveeplusalpha:
I wonder if you can do this on any of the other games? Hmmm...
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Azure Lazuline on May 21, 2011, 07:46:02 AM
In Fairy Wars, when viewing a replay, the menu options are off by one. "Replay Again" gives you the help menu, and in order to restart the replay, you need to select the invisible option one notch below that.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: chirpy13 on May 25, 2011, 04:38:09 PM
From the wiki on SA
"If you complete the game on Easy after unlocking the Extra stage, a bug will re-lock Extra mode until you complete the game on Normal or higher again."
"When using Marisa C (with Nitori) it is possible to reverse bomb at the exact moment that will allow you to not only live but keep up your kappa shield."
I was thinking of the second one last night but couldn't remember the details of it, so I cheated and looked >_>. I saw the first one while I was looking at the second one and figured I'd post it because it sounds like a pretty annoying bug.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: NEETori on May 29, 2011, 11:16:01 AM
Not quite sure, but Yuyuko's death explosion in her last spell card in the TD demo can kill you (last spell card as in the one on easy modo) if you're too close.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Yuyuko Yakumo on May 30, 2011, 07:56:54 AM
"When using Marisa C (with Nitori) it is possible to reverse bomb at the exact moment that will allow you to not only live but keep up your kappa shield."
I wonder how hard this is to do since it happens to me at least twice every play. (Probably shows I deathbomb too much)
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: chirpy13 on May 30, 2011, 08:07:28 PM
Wow, I haven't seen Meiling do that before. :o But yeah, StB (and I believe DS but not sure) have issues with the bosses. They confuse them for some reason. Though I've never had it happen to me yet. See this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91wQLE3hd1w) :V
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: chirpy13 on June 08, 2011, 06:30:24 PM
Oh right, forgot to post this. You die if you fly into Ex-Keine... During her dialogue.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Koakkuri on June 08, 2011, 06:54:39 PM
Does that happen with any other midbosses with dialogue?
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 08, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
That happens with a fair number of bosses in IN actually. I know at least Reimu and Marisa act the same way.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Koakkuri on June 08, 2011, 07:16:41 PM
I'll take your word for it. It also happens with Eirin, but not with regular Keine.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Aba Matindesu! on June 09, 2011, 12:25:21 AM
Keine caves you even in human form by Wriggle Kick -Side Stab-.
It's happened more than once.
Title: Re: Press X, Win Battle - Let's list the lesser-known glitches in Touhou!
Post by: Koakkuri on June 09, 2011, 10:23:15 AM
Yeah, but Wriggle Kick can happen with every midboss that appears like that, being able to die during dialogue is quite different.