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~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: Kilgamayan on September 29, 2018, 10:33:19 PM

Title: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on September 29, 2018, 10:33:19 PM
Games list has been released (https://gamesdonequick.com/submission/games-list/?)! I honestly can't tell what the closer will be, but my money probably would be on SMO Darker Side if I were a betting man. But then there's Celeste All Chapters, FF9 Any% race, NieR Automata E Ending, Wind Waker HD 100%, and Twilight Princess All Dungeons that could close instead. (Or SMRPG Any% if they felt like repeating SGDQ from several years ago!)

Other games of personal interest:

* All the various crazy TASBot shit (dwango's all over the schedule this year)
* Chex Quest
* Dark Souls 3 (though only if fate affords me the time and ability to watch this with Reddyne)
* DKC1 All Stages race
* Kirby TAM
* Mega Man DOS hell fucking yes
* Mega Man II GB
* Mega Man X1-X3 Any% Relay Race
* And hell, Mega Man 10, Mega Man Zero 2, and Mega Man Unlimited while we're at it
* Metroid Fusion
* Octopath Traveler
* Perfect Dark(!!!!)
* Pokemon Gold Glitchless Race
* Sanic Ball
* Super Metroid's back with Reverse Boss Order
* LttP Low% OHKO
* TimeSplitters 2 Co-Op
* Warcraft 3, but only because it's a CovertMuffin run
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Leon゠Helsing on September 29, 2018, 10:47:58 PM
>twitch plays super scribblenauts
u wot m8
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: PX on September 29, 2018, 11:03:49 PM
Ehhh
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: theshirn on September 30, 2018, 12:11:51 AM
further cementing Tressa as best girl

also nice to see the continuing adventures of the WC3 campaign runthrough
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on September 30, 2018, 04:20:01 AM
Damn, the support dwango got from everyone must have been immense if it basically got him to un-retire from TASBot runs in GDQs.

Looking forward to max rank Cuphead, the X 1-3 relay, low% ID LttP, and Trauma Center 2. Mostly Trauma Center, because guaranteed, it'll be a dual-wield run.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Jq1790 on September 30, 2018, 12:35:03 PM
There was a DOS Megaman?  wow.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: nav' on September 30, 2018, 01:39:34 PM
There were at least a couple DOS Mega Man games. I've seen raocow play them and they're hilariously abysmal. One came out when the PC was still a pretty bad place to be for any game with real time action. The other one was just hopelessly outdated, no redeeming points.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on September 30, 2018, 02:16:28 PM
Damn, the support dwango got from everyone must have been immense if it basically got him to un-retire from TASBot runs in GDQs.

What happened with him? This is the first I've heard of anything.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Drake on September 30, 2018, 08:18:18 PM
I haven't heard about any of this, but just from what I perceive the reception of TASBot to be, the things that actually get people's eyes and hearts are the straight-up regular TAS stuff. The crazy tech demo exhibitions are pretty much exactly like tech demos in that it's a shitton of work but there aren't many people that actually appreciate what's happening, and some even find it confusing or boring because it's so arcane, which I would totally see being discouraging.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Reddyne on September 30, 2018, 09:10:46 PM
* Dark Souls 3 (though only if fate affords me the time and ability to watch this with Reddyne)
TBH it's pretty optimized at this point and will either be a glitchfest or lots of buffed Sellsword Twinblade slapfights. The patches have done their damage to some old faves and everything else is well settled in. The run will probably include the second DLC which does have some good fights but in the end it might just be more of the same.

I'm actually interested in Bloodborne but I remember heyZeusHeresToast being too much of an asshat to actually enjoy. I still haven't played the game since a thousand hours in the Dark Souls games still isn't enough to make me run out and buy a PS4.

There was a DOS Megaman?  wow.
It exists. It's not what you think it might be. Or it may REALLY be what you think it might be.

further cementing Tressa as best girl
(https://gamesdonequick.com/static/res/img/memes/jojo.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on October 01, 2018, 03:45:16 AM
AGDQ 2017 was... controversial for dwango and TASBot, for a number of reasons. SGDQ '17 ended up with all but one TAS run denied during submitting.

Which is why it was a bit surprising that there was four (technically) appearances and three desk appearances in AGDQ 2018, and five appearances in SGDQ '18.

While it's only three submissions from him this GDQ, the fact that he and TASBot are still hanging around speaks volumes about the support he's gotten.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: PX on October 01, 2018, 03:56:35 AM
Dwango was taking a break from TASBot stuff due to the toll it was taking on him and his personal life.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on October 01, 2018, 04:10:48 PM
Serious Sam TFE Co-op? Okay, that actually sounds curious. Classic-style FPS games tend to have some neat multiplayer-only tricks.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: nav' on October 01, 2018, 04:32:14 PM
And probably multiplayer-only fights too. Remember the coop-only Cyberdemons we used to struggle so much with back when playing Doom? I can't remember if monster encounters are different in Serious Sam coop, but it would make sense.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on October 01, 2018, 07:01:26 PM
I remember watching a co-op walkthrough of TFE and TSE, and yeah, there are some extra enemies here and there. Most notably a few extra Reptiloid Highlanders or just an extra horde of enemies when you have to fight one. I'm sure speedrunners would have ways to skip them all, though :)
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Hope ♦ Metal on November 12, 2018, 07:33:33 PM
Virtual Hydlide huh? Well have fun with that...
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on November 12, 2018, 08:12:35 PM
Schedule's out (https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule), and...Super Metroid is somehow the closer! Didn't see that coming. Let's be serious, though, SMO Darker Side is the real closer.

Octopath Traveler and Perfect Dark nixed from the game list. Maybe they're bonuses? I forget the URL for checking :oops:
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on November 12, 2018, 09:30:44 PM
Oh man oh god oh man oh god.
Ni[E]r Automata is something I've wanted to see here ever since it came out.
Also I learned the wonders of Trio the Punch thanks to uncle jobel, so I'll also be expecting great things from that.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Reddyne on November 13, 2018, 12:47:08 PM
Octopath Traveler and Perfect Dark nixed from the game list. Maybe they're bonuses? I forget the URL for checking :oops:
Tressa is precious and deserves her spot, dammit.

Edit: Yikes that early Thursday morning block is ripe.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 13, 2018, 01:01:03 PM
Never fear, Octodad is indeed a bonus game (https://gamesdonequick.com/submission/filter/bonus).

I guess Perfect Dark just got dropped entirely. Oh well.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Reddyne on November 13, 2018, 01:50:20 PM
Never fear, Octodad is indeed a bonus game (https://gamesdonequick.com/submission/filter/bonus).
Thank yoooouu for pointing this out.
Let's get down to business meeting the donation incentive.
I won't hold back and I'll get my money's worth.
They'll get more than they bargained for and it'll be time to close up shop.

Some joke about Tressa finding money left by an unfortunate soul.

Also put Perfect Dark back in. Some of the closing games are just OK rom hacks.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Sophilia on November 15, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
PD was even excised from the denied/extra submissions, and there's no talk on either SDA or the Elite about it.  Guessing the runner had to pull it themselves for some reason.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 06, 2019, 04:18:52 PM
Less than an hour to go! Sucks to be at MAGFest right now and missing this stuff hahahahahahaha :(
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Reddyne on January 06, 2019, 07:54:17 PM
Haha nothing I'm going to spend the rest of January curled up with my fiancee watching these vids on YouTube.

Cogsarnit, where's the Octopath Traveler donation bonus. Maybe I'll be able to look around more when I'm at an actual computer.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on January 06, 2019, 10:30:01 PM
Serious Sam TFE Co-op? Okay, that actually sounds curious. Classic-style FPS games tend to have some neat multiplayer-only tricks.

I was not disappointed.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on January 07, 2019, 08:56:37 PM
I'm just staring at the Arby's papercrafters.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Reddyne on January 08, 2019, 04:02:13 PM
Combining the consistent quality of this GDQ and post con malaise has resulted in an unproductive work week thus far.

"HEY JOGBOY YOU STILL NEED TO PLAY NIER: AUTOMATA." Yes, yes, I know.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Raikaria on January 08, 2019, 08:20:36 PM
11:29 PM    Sanic Ball

Dangit Sanic Block why do you do this to my sleep schedule?
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: PX on January 09, 2019, 04:35:21 AM
Lol we just had a brown out here in the practice room, looks like only the lights went out everywhere else
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 09, 2019, 04:48:30 AM
Yeah, the stream and game kept going just fine when all the lights went out. good thing, too, this SMRPG run has been phenomenal so far.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: theshirn on January 09, 2019, 06:56:47 AM
That was a Very Good Run of SMRPG.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Drake on January 09, 2019, 08:04:18 AM
got a freebie
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Reddyne on January 09, 2019, 05:42:26 PM
Whoop Octopath Traveler incentive is up.

Whoop Octopath Traveler incentive is almost met.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on January 09, 2019, 09:50:19 PM
DON'T AWOO

$350 PENALTY
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: theshirn on January 10, 2019, 01:05:37 AM
soon

(https://i.imgur.com/37n8hbZ.gif)
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 10, 2019, 04:13:27 AM
Jeez, this MMX relay race is amazing.

EDIT: Getting fucking HYPE for MMDOS

EDIT 2: That run was everything I every dreamed of and more.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Reddyne on January 10, 2019, 12:40:59 PM
soon

(https://i.imgur.com/37n8hbZ.gif)
Precious pupper. Precious assassin robbing top dollar mercenary exploiting pupper.

EDIT: The Garfield speedrunner showing up in a Garfield kigurumi pajama outfit is the kind of quality entertainment we need.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: commandercool on January 10, 2019, 02:56:37 PM
Oh man, as someone who's been incredibly slowly clawing my way through Octopath Traveler since it came out and is convinced it's the slowest game ever made by humans at this point the idea of someone playing it quickly is hard to fathom.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on January 10, 2019, 09:55:23 PM
I'M FROM CHEX SQUADRON

AND I VOLUNTEER
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Reddyne on January 10, 2019, 11:32:43 PM
I'M FROM CHEX SQUADRON

AND I VOLUNTEER
D  E  E  P  E  S  T    L  O  R  E
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Drake on January 11, 2019, 04:59:11 AM
pausa
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 11, 2019, 06:08:22 AM
pausaboomsplish
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Drake on January 11, 2019, 07:41:18 AM
hi kilga
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 11, 2019, 07:41:32 AM
o/
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Leon゠Helsing on January 11, 2019, 08:18:25 AM
Got around to watching the SMRPG run VOD right now, dafuq is that RNG?
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Raikaria on January 11, 2019, 10:13:45 AM
Boy I look at the remaining games and I wanna watch most of them.

Of course; the Sunday stuff is not gonna happen live because timezone.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: jaxter0987 on January 11, 2019, 01:12:44 PM
All I know is I'm going to be staying up all night watching FF9 live.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: BT on January 11, 2019, 01:43:19 PM
The wait for the Celeste VOD is painful
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 13, 2019, 06:16:56 AM
And that's it! Lots of fun this year.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: PX on January 13, 2019, 06:35:16 AM
ORLANDOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Drake on January 13, 2019, 11:07:32 PM
And SGDQ will be Bloomington, MN as last year; likely in the Doubletree again. As always I'd really like to attend since it's so close to me but probably won't be able to :c


Anyone have any underlooked yet good runs they'd recommend?
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Edible on January 14, 2019, 12:34:03 AM
Anyone have any underlooked yet good runs they'd recommend?

Bloody Wolf, Monkey King, Ninja Five-O, and Kamilia 2 were all lesser known games and great to watch.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Pywackett-Barchetta on January 22, 2019, 02:54:52 AM
Oh, hey, I was there and forgot to mention it! I'm in the yellow-and-black Can-Am jacket with all the racing logos, up front during the Sonic block and screwing around during the Medal of Honor Airborne run. That being said, my recommendations for runs would be Sonic block, uh, Medal of Honor Airborne... I promise it's not just a list of ones where I'm visible! Home Alone 2 is definitely an underrated one I was glad to see live, Aria of Sorrow was surprisingly consistently captivating, Tomb Raider II and Angel of Darkness have my bias already but I thought they were fun times (especially seeing as AoD handily comes pre-broken, which the couch explains in increasingly mystifying detail, and TRII has some clutch moments), Virtual Hydlide... hurt (I had the misfortune of seeing that live because my mom has a copy for the Saturn; she expressed horror and insisted her copy HAD to look better than that or she couldn't have possibly ever played it. A fair warning that it will literally hurt your eyes), and the Metal Gear runs were pretty fun.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on January 23, 2019, 08:42:25 AM
Okay, gotta mention that censoring gets pretty ridiculous this time. Now the runners have to try to censor stuff in M-rated games. (Seriously, "damn" is too harsh nowadays, seriously?) How about they just drop games that don't fit their "family-firendly" rating altogether? Or better yet, how about they stop pretending like there's any point to that? Or do they WANT to turn the event into an even bigger laughingstock?
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Edible on January 23, 2019, 01:40:35 PM
You do realize that their popularity and ability to generate charitable donations has gone up, not down, and continues to grow every year?  Whatever they're doing is working, and they're only a "laughingstock" among a tiny subset of gamers with specific political opinions.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on January 23, 2019, 02:46:25 PM
And? It'd probably go up much higher without controversies that keep popping up around it. While technically the growth might be outpacing any possible losses for now, if you actually look at the numbers it's been kinda stagnating lately.

But that's completely irrelevant for my point. Growing or not, the double standards stand out like a sore thumb whenever they become apparent, which still is at least a few times per marathon. And while I can understand why some limitations might be needed, there's a point where it gets ridiculous and they've already passed it.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on January 23, 2019, 03:00:42 PM
I feel like controversies would stop "popping up" if a certain subsection of participants and fans would stop being shitheads. Like, it's not GDQ's fault that dudes are going around being transphobic or sexually harassing ladies.

Is there evidence that GDQ's efforts to make the event as family-friendly as possible are 100% internal decisions and not at all the result of any sort of influence from any of their sponsors? I admit I haven't looked into it that much but I've always naturally assumed there's been at least a little pressure.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on January 23, 2019, 03:21:34 PM
I feel like controversies would stop "popping up" if a certain subsection of participants and fans would stop being shitheads. Like, it's not GDQ's fault that dudes are going around being transphobic or sexually harassing ladies.

...Where the flying hell did this come from? What does this have to do with anything I said?

I'll repeat, I perfectly understand and agree with a need for some limitations, but that doesn't mean it's okay when pretty innocent stuff suddenly becomes undesirable as well.

Is there evidence that GDQ's efforts to make the event as family-friendly as possible are 100% internal decisions and not at all the result of any sort of influence from any of their sponsors? I admit I haven't looked into it that much but I've always naturally assumed there's been at least a little pressure.

As a viewer, it's all the same to me. I only care about the end result. And speedrunners stubbing toes over rare and tame swearwords is not what I want to see.

And if you think I'm overreacting here's an analogy. You come to a restaurant and order a pie of your favourite flavor. It's delicious but halfway through eating it you notice a metal bolt inside one piece. You throw it out and finish it. The pie is still delicious. But you'll forever remember the restaraunt as "the one where they put bolts in your pies" and feel like avoiding in in the future. Is this not a reasonable reaction? Is mentioning that metal bolt incident to your friends suddenly a faux pas?
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Edible on January 23, 2019, 04:25:08 PM
It'd probably go up much higher without controversies that keep popping up around it

I feel like controversies would stop "popping up" if a certain subsection of participants and fans would stop being shitheads.

...Where the flying hell did this come from? What does this have to do with anything I said?

 :justasplanned:
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on January 23, 2019, 04:33:05 PM
Congrats on leaving out the sentence I was actually referring to. And if those are the only kind of controversies that you think happened at GDQ then you're wilfully ignoring the actually questionable ones. Nice try but I'm immune to gaslighting.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on January 23, 2019, 05:01:12 PM
The only controversies I'm aware of involve asshole individuals being assholes, though I admit I never actually watched the infamous Jak and Daxter run from Bonesaw. This is why I said what I said. You seem to be implying that GDQ, completely by their own volition and not at all at the recommendation of any of their sponsors, are bringing an inordinately large hammer down on people who swear on stream. If this is true, can you cite examples? I honestly hadn't heard of any. Like, I remember Linkus7 dropped "shit" at least once (I think it was twice) during his WWHD 100% run. Did he get in trouble for that?

If this is not what you are implying, can you clearly state what you are getting at, and provide examples of such?
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on January 23, 2019, 05:29:25 PM
You seem to be implying that GDQ, completely by their own volition and not at all at the recommendation of any of their sponsors, [...]

As a viewer, it's all the same to me.

Stop skipping my answers, please.

[...] are bringing an inordinately large hammer down on people who swear on stream. If this is true, can you cite examples? I honestly hadn't heard of any. Like, I remember Linkus7 dropped "shit" at least once (I think it was twice) during his WWHD 100% run. Did he get in trouble for that?

If this is not what you are implying, can you clearly state what you are getting at, and provide examples of such?

(Seriously, "damn" is too harsh nowadays, seriously?)

Covered up by coughs during Vice City run, even though it was in the in-game phonecall.

Seriously, stop spinning this like I'm against everything GDQ stuff does. There are no f-words and I can get behind that. But some decisions just start feeling ridiculous. Or is it forbidden to have opinions here?
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on January 23, 2019, 05:42:03 PM
You are free to continue appealing to emotion and making other statements that suggest you are not actually interested in a good-faith discussion, but do be aware I will not be dignifying them with direct address, and that the overwhelming majority of the people that read this thread will similarly not be baited. It is a waste of your time to continue them.

The "who's decision was it" is indeed important. If profanity muting is strictly a GDQ-as-an-organization decision, then certainly there are changes that could be suggested to make the situation better. But let's say PCF itself called for a muting of profanity. In that case, what's your proposed solution to the issue?

I had not heard about this alleged coughing censorship, as I caught maybe thirty seconds of the Vice City run. Is there evidence the coughing was an intentional profanity-censor, done at GDQ staff's behest, and not someone actually needing to cough, or people that knew what was coming having tongue-in-cheek fun with the run?
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on January 23, 2019, 05:52:50 PM
The "who's decision was it" is indeed important. If profanity muting is strictly a GDQ-as-an-organization decision, then certainly there are changes that could be suggested to make the situation better. But let's say PCF itself called for a muting of profanity. In that case, what's your proposed solution to the issue?

I'd expect GDQ to have at least some agency in whom to accept as sponsors, in which case they'd need to make a conscious decision to honor their demands.

But I guess I'll take a page out of your book and won't bother with any more answers since you

will not be dignifying them with direct address

Believe whatever you want.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: BT on January 23, 2019, 07:02:52 PM
And if you think I'm overreacting here's an analogy. You come to a restaurant and order a pie of your favourite flavor. It's delicious but halfway through eating it you notice a metal bolt inside one piece. You throw it out and finish it. The pie is still delicious. But you'll forever remember the restaraunt as "the one where they put bolts in your pies" and feel like avoiding in in the future. Is this not a reasonable reaction? Is mentioning that metal bolt incident to your friends suddenly a faux pas?
That's... really harsh. It's just swear words. You're letting this get to you too much instead of just enjoying the marathon.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on January 23, 2019, 08:05:50 PM
That's... really harsh. It's just swear words. You're letting this get to you too much instead of just enjoying the marathon.

I did enjoy it for the most part. Just pointing out that that's an issue that exists and it baffles me. But looks like some people just can't deal with some harmless casual exagerration.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: commandercool on January 23, 2019, 08:11:23 PM
Man, Super Mario Odyssey speedruns are so good. I don't usually enjoy speedruns because I don't want to watch people not play video games and just clip and skip past everything interesting, but I do want to see someone use crazy intended movement options to skip stuff. That trick where you jump out of a capture, leave Cappy floating in the air, send Mario off to grab a moon off the side of a platform, and then release Cappy to re-capture the enemy to teleport Mario back up to where he was is super impressive. Would never have occurred to me to try that, but it makes sense.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Drake on January 24, 2019, 06:44:32 AM
though I admit I never actually watched the infamous Jak and Daxter run from Bonesaw
It was actually pretty funny at the time I recommend it
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Reddyne on January 24, 2019, 03:16:21 PM
Man, Super Mario Odyssey speedruns are so good.
The movement tech in SMO is crazy. You can beat the game with standard moves but you can also go nuts and get around all sorts of obstacles with advanced stuff. Cramming all the fancy tricks into a speedrun results in a 3+ hour highlight reel of insane stunts from start to finish.

Lobby and I still have like 10 hours of stuff to watch and we've been going through the YouTube vids for nearly two weeks.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on March 14, 2019, 01:09:09 PM
Couldn't find the video quickly enough back then, but I'd still want to ask the "GDQ bans are justified" crowd to comment on this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5TGFEoidEM).
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on March 14, 2019, 02:28:27 PM
:salt:

lol
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Pywackett-Barchetta on March 14, 2019, 02:39:43 PM
Somehow, the 15-minute video reminding me I should be mad didn't change my opinion
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on March 14, 2019, 02:43:30 PM
lol

...Assuming ill-will out of nowhere again, are you? You're not obligated to post anything if you have nothing to say, you know.

I'm just posting it here because that's what caused me to be suspicious and it sounds reasonable enough. I'm open to pointing out flaws in that reasoning or significant facts that were left out.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: PX on March 14, 2019, 11:36:43 PM
This seems very bait, do I bite it and go into very big details over it?
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Pywackett-Barchetta on March 15, 2019, 03:52:22 AM
This seems very bait, do I bite it and go into very big details over it?

Nah.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on March 15, 2019, 03:53:54 AM
I mean, if you really want to, I won't stop you. (Particularly since I imagine you of all people on this forum are privy to lesser-known GDQ info.) But the only people that are going to have any sympathy for the whiny transphobes and entitled MAGA chuds in that video are, well, other whiny transphobes and other entitled MAGA chuds. It's probably not worth the effort.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on March 15, 2019, 07:33:38 AM
The thing is, I see these claims thrown around, but I've also seen info that those people apologized and moved on. Yet the other side never takes that into account and acts like people can't ever change their ways. This is sickening, but that's why I say I'm open to new info that might prove this to not be the case. Feel free to share it privately or not at all, this is just for my personal interest.

Or maybe I'm too much of an optimist, and those whose views are that certain people are toxic and can't possibly change are the ones that are toxic and refuse to change. I've seen projection enough times to recognize it.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on March 15, 2019, 12:17:04 PM
Sure, Jan.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Raikaria on March 15, 2019, 07:34:06 PM
I mean, if you really want to, I won't stop you. (Particularly since I imagine you of all people on this forum are privy to lesser-known GDQ info.) But the only people that are going to have any sympathy for the whiny transphobes and entitled MAGA chuds in that video are, well, other whiny transphobes and other entitled MAGA chuds. It's probably not worth the effort.

Just to elaborate upon this, PX has actually been at GDQ as a runner; hence his qualification to talk about such matters above anyone else.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on March 16, 2019, 11:26:07 AM
...Well? Nothing? Welp, whatever, then. Way to teach me about trying to get the story from both sides.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: nav' on March 16, 2019, 12:01:05 PM
...Well? Nothing? Welp, whatever, then. Way to teach me about trying to get the story from both sides.
Perhaps your mistake was to expect useful input in the first place.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Kilgamayan on March 16, 2019, 01:08:11 PM
:salt:

lol

:salt:

lol
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on March 22, 2019, 04:00:54 AM
[redacted for unnecessary hostility]
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on March 22, 2019, 07:34:13 AM
I'm not. It's just that their side is the only one I've seen, and I came here asking for the other. But seems like not knowing it already is a crime in and of itself here.

Like, I've looked into other bans, and they're completely understandable. I only have questions about these. But the prejudice I keep seeing thrown my way for nothing makes me more and more skeptical. You people are your own worst enemy.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on March 22, 2019, 12:32:06 PM
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Let's not do this, please.

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Dude. You linked a 15-minute video about (a) a group of MAGA chuds making a coordinated effort to flaunt the "no politics" rules to get a pro-Trump message out and then skirt one particular dude by on a technicality that because he didn't actually put one of the hats on his head he should be allowed to get off scot-free, as if he had no idea what all of his friends were doing, and (b) complaining about/making fun of not just GDQ, but Twitch itself taking steps to remove transphobic emote memes. Setting aside the fact that you do not appear to have done any critical thinking whatsoever about the possibility that the maker of that video might have some sort of agenda and may not have told the entire story regarding the MAGA squad, you literally watched someone complain about people no longer being allowed to be transphobic and went "hmm, yes, this seems like a perfectly reasonable grievance to air". If you are incapable of forming the most obvious of reasonable conclusions on your own, the rest of us are not going to do it for you. I should not have even needed to write this much and I honestly feel dirty that I have. That video is not worth a tenth of the words presented here.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on March 22, 2019, 12:55:16 PM
Setting aside the fact that you do not appear to have done any critical thinking whatsoever about the possibility that the maker of that video might have some sort of agenda and may not have told the entire story regarding the MAGA squad [...]

I have. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR A FULLER STORY FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG, DAMN IT! Everything you pointed out is obvious to you because you know the context. I don't because I don't follow USA politics or Twitch dramas. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THAT CONTEXT. All I have to go from is that video. and it presents its points well, but I did get a feeling it diverts attention from some aspects of what happened. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN THEM. Yet all I get can be summed up pretty much as:

Me: "Please explain the story behind this."
Y'all: "HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ABOUT IT, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF"

There are a lot of people on the fence about controversial matters. And you're not gonna win them over if you're gonna treat them like that. But videos like that will.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on March 22, 2019, 02:16:03 PM
Ugh. Fine. Whatever. Talking about this makes me feel sick. You win. And I'm a dumbass who can't put two and two together. Go ahead, pat yourself on the back for blowing off a retard. I don't care anymore.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Pywackett-Barchetta on March 22, 2019, 02:25:37 PM
Ugh. Fine. Whatever. Talking about this makes me feel sick. You win. And I'm a dumbass who can't put two and two together. Go ahead, pat yourself on the back for blowing off a retard. I don't care anymore.

You don't have to put guilt-trip icing on the "I went on an internet forum and yelled at random people I've never met that they should be angrier, and they didn't want to debate me!" cake. But... yes, please stop. We've given you the answers we have. Any hesitation was honestly because the lead-up looked like willful ignorance as to why we weren't incensed, and the 15-minute video was absurdly flimsy "evidence" showing pretty much exactly why it was these people were removed. If you don't follow USA politics, I'd best summarize it as "it's people yelling 'free speech' and 'censorship' when they don't get to say literally anything they want on what is now a family program".

Anyways. Let's move on.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: CyberAngel on March 22, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
"I went on an internet forum and yelled at random people I've never met that they should be angrier, and they didn't want to debate me!"

Yeah, because this forum is actually a closed club of real-life friends, and for someone who doesn't kiss up to the bigwigs to expect being given the time of day is totally unreasonable. Sorry, I keep forgetting that.

But sure, keep misinterpreting what I say, don't give me any good faith, toss confusing non-answers my way, insult and threaten me to your heart's content. This toxic atmosphere is so healthy and I really enjoy being showered in it. Such a silly idea - giving a chance to listening to others and expecting the same in return.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Pywackett-Barchetta on March 22, 2019, 06:08:49 PM
confusing non-answers

I'm genuinely attempting to be as clear and polite as I can. There's no malice intended in this. I have no secret vendetta or agenda here. And, I mean... being a "bigwig" here is not exactly any sort of major world influence as it is.

We're trying. We're not trying to insult or threaten or be toxic (though I have let my anger get the better of me and I've gotten a bit snarky, I will wholly admit). If you're genuinely being majorly distressed by this conversation, it's not benefiting any of us to continue it. There's no ill will here from me at the least, and you have my sincere apologies if I give off that vibe. It's not my intent. I will absolutely concede I was too dismissive to start with, but it was because I was afraid it would snowball into... well, this.
Title: Re: Awesome Games Done Quick 2019 - DOS Ist Gut, Ja?
Post by: Suwako Moriya on March 22, 2019, 06:35:42 PM
I don't care anymore.

Anyways. Let's move on.

Nah I'm gonna keep posting even though I said I don't care anymore

:justasplanned:

To nip this in the bud, no knowledge of the current political climate in the United States is necessary to understand why the MAGA squad in that video is full of it; the video itself acknowledges that (a) GDQ banned on-air political stuff before the hat incident, and (b) the hats are political stuff. A thing was banned, that thing was done anyway, the offenders were punished. How incredibly complicated a concept!

Anyway. This thread about an event that ended over two months ago has run its course, and now it is done. You can take whatever pride you like in taking us all for a ride on your Ruse Cruise. To be clear for future GDQ threads, transphobic and MAGA chud posts are not welcome, and offenders will be given time-outs should they decide the rules do not apply to them.  See you all in June.