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~Hakurei Shrine~ => Alice's Art Atelier => Topic started by: Delfigamer on January 03, 2013, 03:56:01 AM

Title: [Art] Jealous Witch did something derp
Post by: Delfigamer on January 03, 2013, 03:56:01 AM
Just as promised.

Tried to draw two girls in certain situation. Failed. Then tried to do some fun with perspective. Remembered the famous floating castle. Thought it was a bit boring. And then... (http://i.imgur.com/O45Uua8.jpg)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on January 04, 2013, 04:07:39 AM
Hmmm where is the other girl??? Also you should draw first a sketch using a light pencil before to draw the final pic, this way you can avoid to let lines passing inside of your objects.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on January 04, 2013, 05:37:07 AM
Hmmm where is the other girl???
With the first, on the other side of the sheet. You see third one.

Also you should draw first a sketch using a light pencil before to draw the final pic, this way you can avoid to let lines passing inside of your objects.
I draw pic gradually, first I draw common shapes, then put more detail.
So, for this castle, I started with simple boxes. Then, one box was changed into cylinder. Then, I added solid walls on those two towers, and latter divided them into merlons.
Then I got bored and drawed a sort of professional shinigami.
When I drawed people, I was startin with simple skeleton, then adding meat on it and, later, putting clothes.
It helps me to keep some shape in my pics.
(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6610/110955323.6/0_a5dc7_84ae66c6_orig)

BTW, where you found those lines?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on January 04, 2013, 06:21:19 AM
Look at her left leg, there are some lost lines there I think
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: pineyappled on January 04, 2013, 06:34:39 AM
Hope this helps.  (http://i.imgur.com/X6EaK.jpg)


Forgot to mention- the third vanishing point should not be expanding downwards.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on January 04, 2013, 07:18:57 AM
Oh yeah I knew that perspective is just raped hard.
This questioned line... I wanted to show you an original with slope at this point, but just seen there're no slopes here... wait. Seems you still should look at original.
Here (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/delfigamer/view/715309) is what I tried to draw by memory. Here (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/delfigamer/view/715310) is the same castle from another angle.
(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5633/110955323.6/0_aea2f_f0c18ae_orig)
Though other derps are my ones. ._.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: pineyappled on January 04, 2013, 07:25:52 AM
I think the originals made me more confused on how the hell the thing you drew works. :V
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on January 06, 2013, 10:32:12 AM
Cool trees! :V (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6447/110955323.6/0_afbab_e506cab6_orig)

And some Coret. A little bit of it, simplified version. (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6431/110955323.7/0_afbf5_a63fa388_orig)

So, now I have the best of my derp collected in single place (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/delfigamer/album/195668/). Yay! (EDIT: horribly outdated now, especially since I moved to Imgur)
________

Well, less complicated thing. (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4116/110955323.7/0_afe5d_7bfe4405_orig)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on January 12, 2013, 09:38:42 PM
Poof. (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6447/110955323.7/0_b06cf_da406893_orig)
________

Edit: It's my birthday now, yay!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on January 15, 2013, 12:41:16 AM
Okay, enough unrelated stuff, let's return to girls. (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5633/110955323.7/0_b0820_ddfccc15_orig)
The meaning of this box is left to your perverted imagination. As well as her left arm.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on January 15, 2013, 03:30:06 AM
Your characters in drawings are really tall, do you like Clamp-style art?

And Happy birthday to you :)

BTW did you draw that Cow?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: pasu on January 15, 2013, 03:58:39 AM
Do you like architecture?  :3 And happy birthday, if it isn't too late!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Freeze-Ex on January 15, 2013, 07:33:06 AM
yay happy late b-day!
though might need a bit more work on figure
i rly like ur skills on perspective and views
maybe u can try some cityscape?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on January 15, 2013, 01:46:10 PM
Your characters in drawings are really tall
I already noticed that.
Should reduce the space between a ribcage and a pelvis.
do you like Clamp-style art?
Don't know what are you talking about.
BTW did you draw that Cow?
Only added more red. Try to google a "cow" image. :3
Do you like architecture?
Really, not. Those things are just fun to draw.
though might need a bit more work on figure
Oh no that would mean redrawing this from the beginning, I'm too lazy for that.
i rly like ur skills on perspective and views
maybe u can try some cityscape?
Probably I'll try, I'm going to have a lot of free time without good internet.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: pineyappled on January 16, 2013, 03:30:37 AM
Oh no that would mean redrawing this from the beginning, I'm too lazy for that.
Uh, frankly, I think Freeze meant that your anatomy is very iffy, and not just for the picture in question. Probably a good thing to focus on for now?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on February 08, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
On the theme of singe-point perspective.
Koos Galleon (sorta). (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6447/110955323.7/0_b1e08_9edaa72e_orig)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on February 09, 2013, 05:00:41 PM
Pretty good stuff! I like how you considered that the farther away they are, the thinner the floorboards seem to be, and such. Oh, and do you take requests?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on February 09, 2013, 06:12:47 PM
Depends on my mood. You may try your luck and give an attempt to get my interest. :3
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on February 10, 2013, 07:27:11 PM
All right then, how about~

Orin looking surprised, with the caption "Owner said nyan! She understands my language!" :o
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on February 11, 2013, 01:50:01 AM
Sounds like fun, probably I'll try. :3
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Keegster2 on February 11, 2013, 02:48:28 AM
(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6610/110955323.6/0_a5dc7_84ae66c6_orig)
That is the most adorable Cirno ever.
Your artwork is very good! Keep it up!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on February 11, 2013, 11:45:12 AM
That is the most adorable Cirno ever.
Your artwork is very good! Keep it up!
LOL this Cirno is not mine.

All right then, how about~
Epic fail (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4127/110955323.7/0_b1f9d_8072738_orig).

might need a bit more work on figure
...
...Well, let's draw some tentacles! (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4118/110955323.7/0_b2003_3870e207_orig)
I think, my nightmarish way of derping drawing should work well with binocular octopuses.
Also, I've finished my 15-paged notebook, and already made a new one.
So, for comparision, my old (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4714/110955323.2/0_8cb25_1b8bf3bf_orig) drawings (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6310/110955323.4/0_9cb14_91392108_orig).
Improvement: I now draw legs! :V
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on February 25, 2013, 07:35:07 AM
Less nightmarish face. (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4131/110955323.7/0_b299b_c81b3636_orig)
Actually, I drawed it from photo of my classmate, so it hardly can be named as improvement. Eh, I'm still so derp...
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on March 04, 2013, 08:44:43 PM
Request completed + new stuff!

Not that bad a result on that request, there. Some feedback in blue:

-   Eyes would look better if placed lower. A little lower.

-   That hand palm could stand to be wider, on the viewer's right side, more specifically. Try that pose in front of a mirror; you'll see that that right side goes past the wrist a little, in a bump-like fashion. If that explanation's not clear enough, I can draw you a hand palm, if you'd like, so you can get the gist of it :) (Hand palms are one thing I don't suck at that bad, lol).

-   Also, the fingers. You drew them in the reverse order; from closeness to her face, the fingers are supposed to be:
   Index
   Middle
   Ring
   Pinky

   Instead. With the pinky being the most visible. I should know; I tried that pose in front of a mirror :P

-   There is other stuff regarding this pic too, but I don't know how to advise regarding it ^^;


Regarding that tentacle pic, I think it looks ok. Perhaps the tentacle creature could stand to be more detailed, but it doesn't looks bad as it is now. :) Though, I have a few things to say about the figure, also in blue:

I'm assuming that's a girl, so please correct me if I'm wrong, hehe. Also, feel free to disregard this advice if you were aiming to draw an androgynous girl. :)

-   The balance of the top half of the body and the bottom half is off. More specifically, the top half is significantly taller than the bottom half; if you're gonna draw girls, perhaps you should make it the other way around (or better yet, make both halves even).
-   The hips being wider and more shapely would make her look more female. I can provide a redline if you want, though perhaps it'd be a better idea to look at pictures of actual naked hips. Be they drawn by a great ero-mangaka or of pics made for students of figure drawing.

I see other stuff that's off, but I dunno how to advise regarding that either.

Dunno how to advise regarding that profile face.

Anyway, keep it up! You're improving at a faster pace than I am, if that encourages you  ^^
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 04, 2013, 09:30:07 PM
Wow, I am not alone. :V
Regarding those pics, it is mutant anatomy, he-he.
About profile - no advices because it is perfect. :V Though, drawing from imagination and from photo are very different things, so this picture could hardly be named as progress.
You're improving at a faster pace than I am
I am particularly youkai, you're not a single bit one. :3
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 10, 2013, 04:19:30 PM
Shapes, shapes, hm...
I wonder if anybody is interested in this particular undone lineart (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6437/110955323.7/0_b352b_250bb8c4_orig) from a derp (as usual) sketch. Can you guess who is here?
Oh my, and I want to finish and color it.
Don't say about boots, I know they're bad. Other remarks are welcome.
Wanted to say something else, but forgot what. ^^" Maybe I'll add it when remember.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 13, 2013, 01:40:37 PM
Shameless bump. (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6424/110955323.7/0_b3783_9dbfe87b_orig)
Now with colors! :V
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Desu_Cake on March 13, 2013, 04:45:34 PM
Criticism time!

The arms and torso still look too long.
The knees are too low. If you bend your knee enough, your ankle should touch your butt. At the moment it looks like her legs start from the bottom of her skirt, especially since the skirt hangs as if she's standing, even though she's walking.
Her hands are different sizes.
Her shoulders look too low, but I think that's partially because of her capette.
The linework is pretty wiggly, what program are you using?
Don't be so afraid of shadows, they could do with being a lot bigger. Also, I can't tell where the light is coming from?
Finally, her face is too square. Her nose and jaw should curve much more than that.

All that said, I can see a marked improvement over your previous stuff. Keep it up!

Quick redline below.
(Note: Please do not use as an actual reference. Also I am terrible at legs.)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 14, 2013, 07:12:35 AM
Her hands are different sizes.
Hands... hands.
I've done about 5 attempts do draw a single one, horribly failed and just gave up do draw them right.
Her shoulders look too low, but I think that's partially because of her capette.
I intended to draw hair lying on shoulder, but now think that Homu should walk like ninja to keep them resting like that. ^^"
The linework is pretty wiggly, what program are you using?
MyPaint. Actually, I haven't searched hard for proper painting program, just seen it mentioned in some old post in Post Your Artwork.
Don't be so afraid of shadows, they could do with being a lot bigger. Also, I can't tell where the light is coming from?
Sun from the very top. At least, I thought that while was adding shadows.
All that said, I can see a marked improvement over your previous stuff. Keep it up!
Yay!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on March 14, 2013, 06:46:49 PM
Maybe you should try to draw simpler poses or train gesture drawings to get a better perception of the body anatomy. Walking poses look hard to draw properly :P
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on April 17, 2013, 04:47:37 PM
Sketch. (http://i.imgur.com/o7P3RcB.png)
For now, photoed with a very uncomfortable tablet cam - it's placed on the front side, probably aimed at user.
Later, when I'll gain access to my scanner again, I'll change this pic to a proper one; and, if I gain enough time and will, I'll do further work on it with... uh, another, bamboo drawing tablet.

So, she is going to be one of the main characters of my shmup game (see my sig). Her name is Alexandra, surname is still not given. She is calm, kind, has high morale values. She possesses high power, her attacks are narrow and accurate, compared to sparse area-covering attacks of another heroine.
A girl seen as sprite in the game isn't the one depicted here, she is another main character; and they are in rather not friendly relations.

2nd pic (http://i.imgur.com/sf9Jllr.png): I am not just lazy, I am raymoo lazy! :derp:
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on June 10, 2013, 04:35:35 PM
Wa-ha-ha-ha-ha, fear, heavens, I am returned and I am more derp than ever! (http://i.imgur.com/4aUUocf.jpg)
I absolutely do not like her bottom parts. I think I'll cut them off if I'll ever continue on this... thing.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on June 10, 2013, 05:20:27 PM
Wa-ha-ha-ha-ha, fear, heavens, I am returned and I am more derp than ever!
(http://i.imgur.com/ain9FlP.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ain9FlP)
I absolutely do not like her bottom parts. I think I'll cut them off if I'll ever continue on this... thing.
Really the bottom part is strange, maybe you should try to copy it from a real model looking images on google or try to use a simple-shape model to have a better idea of this pose.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on June 10, 2013, 08:07:34 PM


Hm, the pic's thighs could use some foreshortening. According to my observations of many pics of people sitting in similar poses as that you drew, the thighs should look shorter than the calves. Take a look at the thighs and calves on this pic; it'd probably get across what I'm trying to say clearer. (http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=477092) Perhaps comparing those to how they'd look in a regular frontal standing pose would help, too. I'd suggest paying extra attention to the contours, in that case.

Of course, since my observations are pretty often wrong, feel free to ignore these ^^;

By the way, do you take requests?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on June 11, 2013, 07:03:52 AM
At first I intended on drawing straight legs, now I think they won't work well with the armchair and this straight pose - her butts are just too far from the edge.
...Not sure if  you've got what I'm saying. ^^"
Anyway, I think I'll make them bent, I hope this way they'll look at least a bit more naturally.

By the way, do you take requests?
Depends on my mood. You may try your luck and give an attempt to get my interest. :3
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on June 11, 2013, 09:17:30 AM
Oh, I got what you were saying :) As for the request, just a simple bust shot of Reimu with a hand on a side of her face, with a thought bubble above her thinking about sake.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on June 11, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
sake
Good morning, Reimu.
OH SHI- (http://ttp://i.imgur.com/RZqmXBu.png)

...I'll redo, if you want. ._.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on June 11, 2013, 01:51:53 PM
If you wouldn't mind redoing it, then sure :) If so, be sure to show more of the upper body area; what you drew wasn't a bust shot, but more of a head shot. Also, give her a party hat like you see here (http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/File:Liz_and_Chrom_in_Harvest_of_Bonds.jpg) :3 You may also want to thin the neck juust slightly, to make her look more feminine.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on June 15, 2013, 12:24:35 PM
So... I again messed proportions up, but now the body looks like suffering cretinism. :<
I'm not sure you should see this, but if you still want - here (http://imgur.com/OluRXQI).
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on June 15, 2013, 08:06:18 PM
 Redline  (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/252/946v.jpg)

* Fixing ear place;
* Adding some extra curves in the face;
* Adding curves in the shoulders;
* The trunk is too long, using a 8-head body as a reference you should reduce a bit the body and increase the legs size

PS: You could add more hip curves.


Reference:

http://www.tunc.biz/mila_kunis_crossed_legs.jpg
http://www.idrawdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/prop_female.gif
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 29, 2013, 09:51:26 AM
Aside from everything, I suck at girls. (http://imgur.com/7dI8ggx,LmAMppl)
T_T
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: DX7.EP on July 29, 2013, 11:32:11 AM
Let's see what we've got here, with a bit of a list for the sake of critical insight.

 - Stiff figure, especially in the abdomen, shoulders, and limbs.  Kaze linked a fairly decent chart for reference.
 - Her right hand has the rough form, but the same attention could have been given to the other hand too.
 - Lack of line variety. Makes it even more rigid in appearance which is not what we want. Relax the hand a bit.
 - Crushed forehead. Eye level should be halfway on the head - next time draw a character without the hair first, and then insert it.
 - The onepiece's placement makes it appear flat and pasted-over.  Adjust the shoulder straps to account for the body's shape.

I don't mean to nitpick too much, but constructive criticism is usually one of the most effective mechanisms of improvement.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 29, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
next time draw a character without the hair first, and then insert it.
I do so, but despite that... ._.
I don't mean to nitpick too much, but constructive criticism is usually one of the most effective mechanisms of improvement.
It's okay, don't bother about it much.
I'll look what I can do with all of this. ._.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on August 11, 2013, 08:56:21 PM
Maybe this bit of advice might help:

Picture what part of the anatomy you'd like to improve on the most at the moment: is it hair, face shape, torso shape, collarbone, etc? Then, draw a bunch of what that feature rests on; at least 3 on a single page. Then, draw the feature on each base, and then compare it to how an artist you like does it. Perhaps you may find a discovery of a more 'correct' way to do it, which is likelier the more you know about the feature beforehand.

And, if possible, set your mind to not care about any mistakes you make on other parts of the anatomy until you've become good enough at your current focus to move on to something else. Understandably, you may not be able to do this if you've got a lot of inner art pain(?), but it's at least worth a try :)

Edit: Also, when you post a new figure sketch, you could try explaining your conceptions(?) of figure drawing that led you to draw part of a figure a certain way. That way, people who know their stuff can come in and correct your assumptions, explain how it really works, and then offer exercises and refs for you to try out and examine.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on August 12, 2013, 05:02:01 PM
Firstly I need to stop being that lazy and draw anything. :V
But it's summer now, it is a very lazy time...
:(
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on August 18, 2013, 09:09:53 PM
Reimu, reimu... (http://i.imgur.com/urHo3Jj.jpg)

Hey, it came much better than I expected!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on August 19, 2013, 12:35:58 AM
That left hand looks a bit wrong  :x
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Pirate on August 19, 2013, 04:09:40 AM
That left hand looks a bit wrong  :x

Well there's the part about the messed up perspective too. It's almost m.c. escher all over again.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on August 20, 2013, 03:10:40 AM
Hm, it does look better than what you've drawn before (in terms of people).

To elaborate on the criticism given by Kaze and Pirate:

As for the hand, the fingers are positioned the reverse of what they should (the thumb and index fingers aren't on the left side of the hand, It's actually the right!)

As for the perspective, Reimu's face gives the impression that you're looking at her from the front view, but the table, donation box, and her left hand look like they're being seen from above.

When box-like shapes (like the top of a table) are seen from above like that, you do see mostly the top. Almost nothing but, even. But from a more straight-on perspective (as Reimu's face would imply), you see the top in a tapered shape, and the side right in front of it in a rectangular form. Perhaps this (http://puu.sh/466Dg.png) will help you 'get it' more.

As for the hand, I dunno what advice to give you there, other than to prop up a mirror of front of a table, try the pose in front of it, and compare how the palm looks compared to a from-the-top view of the hand. You know, that position most people learn first.

Now, I assume you have a grasp on the theory of things like perspective and the figure, but don't have actually applying it down registered in your brain (I've been there, and am mostly still there!). If not, ok. I just hope this advice helps you get more of a 'feel' for how this particular topic works, flawed as it may be :)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on August 20, 2013, 11:14:49 AM
Hm... my tablet has its camera attached on the front side. Seems like it's not completely useless, after all. :V

the fingers are positioned the reverse of what they should
Again?!
T_T
________

I am useless. (http://i.imgur.com/qLJyq60.png)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on September 13, 2013, 11:30:10 AM
Maybe I'll continue this work. (http://i.imgur.com/StAFVWHl.jpg) Someday. Eventually.
._.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on September 16, 2013, 06:10:28 AM
._. (http://imgur.com/XrluWFq.jpg)
Quote
"Take it easy, Delfi!"
"Okay. T_T"
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on September 22, 2013, 07:26:56 PM
:colonveeplusalpha:
If you have no idea what's going on there (http://i.imgur.com/T2v5xlm.jpg?1), that's normal it's
Komachi carrying Ran while Chen is waving and Yukari is walking away. At least I was thinking about it.

Wait, why do I post it here?
Also, 4x combo. I'm so hopeless that nobody even tries to give any critics. :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on September 22, 2013, 09:49:56 PM
Ah, well allow me to attempt to help. o/

I made a quick redline of your drawing. (http://i.imgur.com/fwJz3jN.jpg) The (my) anatomy isn't 100% accurate, so please don't use it as a reference.

I wasn't able to tell what direction Komachi was facing, so I drew her facing the right. (Although the more that I look at it, she seems to be facing the left?) Her arm placement was a bit weird, considering her right hand/arm was holding the scythe, yet it appeared to be resting on her left shoulder.
Ran looked okay, but I made her a little larger. I also shifted her posture so that more of her weight is placed on her arms, since it looks like she's laying back. Chen seemed a little too small, so I scaled her up as well.

One thing that seems to be bothering me yet I can't place my finger on it would have to be the perspective. I can't really tell where your horizon line is. I tried outlining the boat with one perspective point, but it doesn't seem to quite match up correctly. (Same with two points; perhaps it's just me!)

I, uh, hope that made a little sense.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on September 23, 2013, 01:25:23 PM
Now I feel guilty when think about lazing the drawing away and forgetting about it. ._.

So, currently this. (http://imgur.com/KJqWmsZ,sKT6TL0,Z8P7qcy,KYZv2Vp,nZ4hURs#4)
WIP captures wow.

It's 20:23 here already, and I still haven't touched my homework, so I guess that's enough for today. :0

UPD
So...
Ah, well allow me to attempt to help. o/
Wow, thank you!

I wasn't able to tell what direction Komachi was facing, so I drew her facing the right. (Although the more that I look at it, she seems to be facing the left?)
Yes, she was basically facing the same direction with the boat - captain and all, I thought that would make sense. Seems you've just flipped her left-to-right, I've flipped Komachi back (as you may see) and it's all right now. :V

Her arm placement was a bit weird, considering her right hand/arm was holding the scythe, yet it appeared to be resting on her left shoulder.
The intent here was to make her right hand to rest on the handle, while the scythe is balanced on her right shoulder by that hand and the blade.
I usually don't bother much about erasing hidden stuff on sketches of that rawness level, so one might see the handle to be before Koma's neck, while actually it was behing. (?・ω・`)

One thing that seems to be bothering me yet I can't place my finger on it would have to be the perspective. I can't really tell where your horizon line is. I tried outlining the boat with one perspective point, but it doesn't seem to quite match up correctly. (Same with two points; perhaps it's just me!)
Well, this boat probably forms two-point perspective, though the second point may not be easily seen (I had trouble finding it myself ._.). There are two lines on the boat that are perpendicular to its general direction (which you found and marked) - one is at its stern, and other is right under the shinigami. The latter one was used as a marker of the broadest point of the boat.
Actually I have little idea on how real boats are assembled, this one is just a plain leaf-shaped deck with curved sides. I guess I've got it wrong. :colonveeplusalpha:

I, uh, hope that made a little sense.
It certainly did made sense, especially compared to a couple of bearded yukkuris. :V

On a side note: "disabling" bottom eyelids seems to be a good idea. Though, her hair is just the worst thing in the drawing now. :/
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Post by: Delfigamer on September 24, 2013, 11:08:23 AM
When I start to grasp nothing and draw crap, is this a time to say "enough for today"? ._.
My last sleep was for ~5 hours and ended ~11 hours ago. Maybe that's a problem too.
Anyway, Komacchan's lineart is almost finished (http://imgur.com/nZ4hURs,r0vw0oy,Z2pjZza,Eqai6sb#3), what is left is to fix her hair... and maybe a couple of lines of clothes which I've just seen. (?.o)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Ibaraki on September 24, 2013, 04:00:39 PM
When I start to grasp nothing and draw crap, is this a time to say "enough for today"? ._.
That's your cue to get a rest.
Are you going to finish that picture? I'm interested to see the final product, complete with the scenery.
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Post by: Delfigamer on September 25, 2013, 04:42:46 PM
Well.
I want to see the final product too. But I'm lazy as Reimu and Komachi combined, so... I hope I'll still manage to finish it!
Progress slowly goes on~ (http://imgur.com/HQoozBU,WmKXfyN,5s4nzNl#2)
And I have no idea how to draw those twintails. ?_?

Now I need to read the homework for tomorrow's Literature, which is Kuprin's "Garnet Bracelet" in original. :derp:
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Post by: Delfigamer on September 26, 2013, 02:00:04 PM
Two clothed girls in a single picture (http://imgur.com/L06ET9U,R6BlfR9#1). It's already epic for me. ^^"
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Post by: Delfigamer on September 27, 2013, 03:03:03 PM
Drawing Chen's face on just 30*30 pixels is hard. :< (http://imgur.com/hKLee0Y,UZzaYEE#1)
________

Okay, enough bumps. (http://imgur.com/8wqHLxu,wucr3eL,Bm1X6x4#2)
Obviously it's not finished, I still have a wonderful world of light and darkness ahead. :O
Though the plot here can already be read.
Also, design of Ran's, well, robe is mine. :colonveeplusalpha:
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Post by: Delfigamer on October 05, 2013, 09:43:50 AM
In the meantime, Chemistry doodles (http://i.imgur.com/6QRdmDO.jpg).
Quote
ゆっくりしていてね!~

And, as I post here, GA entry (feels) (http://i.imgur.com/sBpUZ96.png).
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Ibaraki on October 05, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
It looks like her journey is finally over.
About time Toyosatomimi no Ran to feel the taste of Higan.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 05, 2013, 12:49:42 PM
Toyosatomimi no Ran
Toyosatomimi? ???
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Ibaraki on October 06, 2013, 12:04:12 AM
Toyosatomimi? ???
Given the hair color and her "ears", your Ran somewhat giving me that impression.  :V
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 07, 2013, 12:39:45 AM
Given the hair color and her "ears", your Ran somewhat giving me that impression.  :V
Oh, I see.
:negative:
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Ibaraki on October 07, 2013, 06:54:15 AM
Oh, I see.
:negative:

Don't be so dejected there. *ahem my shizuha komeiji *
I am no professional in the category, but I suggest you to give a more distinct look to your character as your first priority. Drawing more solo full-body portraits for only one character (for now) should help you, No fancy pose is needed, you just need to establish your ground for the character first.
Examples: this (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1453390) and that (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1374013).
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 08, 2013, 07:02:43 PM
Oh my. (http://i.imgur.com/vyTXv8H.jpg)
(See the thread's title :derp: )
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 18, 2013, 06:41:54 PM
img (http://i.imgur.com/WUKFoVP.jpg)
2 hours, lile GA thread OP suggests.

Well, now the face looks certainly female, which may be considered as an improvement now.
Failed at feet, though.

And, as usual, absolute zero of details. Hurr durr.
I hope you at least can say who's depicted here. I now have a feeling you wouldn't be able to identify the loli without the keineball.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on October 20, 2013, 07:25:54 PM
I think that her arms looks a bit "square", take a look in photos with arms and you'll see that there are curves created by the muscles of the arm and the wrists.

Also you could draw her eyes more rounder instead of using straight lines.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 20, 2013, 07:30:36 PM
Also you could draw her eyes more rounder instead of using straight lines.
Somehow I've decided that edgier eyes would fit Mokou more. :derp:
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 27, 2013, 08:30:47 PM
Buuump. (http://i.imgur.com/1ECGuHy.jpg)
UT/Touhou crossover. That was inevitable. :getdown:
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on November 04, 2013, 06:57:16 PM
I like the attention you put on that cape, skirt, and fire :o
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on November 06, 2013, 05:05:37 PM
I like to discover that those things appeared as if I had put lots of attention to them when I hadn't. :derp:
(Though, if you consider filling an area with a solid color as paying attention, then maybe. :V)
________

Nah, enough of that pic for me. (http://i.imgur.com/7wG7Yk8.png)
Don't you think like me too, that the sketch (http://i.imgur.com/bjYywhr.png) was better?
And those hands. :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on November 18, 2013, 06:54:17 AM
Tried a gothic Reimu.
Got, well, this. (http://i.imgur.com/VSiiriD.jpg)
Hey, look, there're even eraser remains here! :derp:
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on November 22, 2013, 11:01:50 PM
Her braids are so small :o
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on January 04, 2014, 10:16:01 PM
Hi, it's me again. (http://i.imgur.com/slxerN5.jpg)

Well, you won't probably guess the character just by that derpic, so here's a hint:
she was under conquest at least twice
.
________

And another nameless girl. (http://i.imgur.com/P2CONb4.jpg)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on February 23, 2014, 08:31:11 AM
I've just realised I haven't still drawn Guilty Alice herself.

Well then...
...no, Alice, this (http://i.imgur.com/F4F0b62.jpg) is way too guilty!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 05, 2014, 05:48:03 AM
poof (http://i.imgur.com/fJjzywJ.png)
I would take the shadows from the photo too, if it wasn't "ambient light only".
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on April 17, 2014, 12:18:23 PM
What is this? (http://i.imgur.com/XLM0TKg.jpg)
I dunno.
Okay, I cannot shade with a pencil.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on April 20, 2014, 05:12:26 AM
I dunno, looks pretty nice to me :V As for advice, perhaps having the darker parts of the shading (which are closer to the lighter parts) follow the edges of the hair would make it look better.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on December 27, 2014, 11:32:11 AM
As the year 2014 draws to a close, I hope that you have had a wonderful year full of creative endeavors.
Ha.
Just look how populated this thread is with some wonderful art!

Well, nevertheless, this is not enough, so I've just created sort of an RP blog to draw more. I hope it won't be covered in mould any time soon.
Now, please, press "Home" instead of scrolling up. It's embarrassing. :blush:

11-02-15 update: screw that, I am too lazy :/
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on January 18, 2015, 02:32:50 PM
I accidentally. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52018470/Temp/u4_lv13.mp3)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 04, 2015, 05:19:58 AM
My gibus is my friend, it helps me relax. (http://i.imgur.com/eMcf3Wj.jpg)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: DX7.EP on March 06, 2015, 03:22:14 AM
Koishi confirmed for F2P TF2 player? >:D I find the idea amusing.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 07, 2015, 05:32:35 AM
I'm glad you do!

Meanwhile: Hey, knucklehead! I'm talkin' ta you! Da ze! (http://i.imgur.com/MNlPJcn.jpg)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on March 07, 2015, 06:34:29 AM
I'm glad you do!

Meanwhile: Hey, knucklehead! I'm talkin' ta you! Da ze! (http://i.imgur.com/MNlPJcn.jpg)
Coming soon to a Kourindou near you

My gibus is my friend, it helps me relax. (http://i.imgur.com/eMcf3Wj.jpg)
Other than the tiny hands, looking good.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 07, 2015, 10:22:48 AM
Coming soon to a Kourindou near you
* Kourinn Co store ;)
Other than the tiny hands, looking good.
Aha. While I don't take it seriously, doodles come out fine; but every time I try to do something good, it results in a snapped neck :/
Oh well, but it's still much better than nothing, anyway. And, this way, it doesn't hurt that much when you see some masked abomination riding a duck with scout's head, because, well, you weren't really trying.

Someone from my group said I could write a little comic book. Well, I suppose at the time they didn't know how lazy I actually am. Eh.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 12, 2015, 08:36:13 AM
And that's what it was made for. (http://i.imgur.com/OlrhC7P.jpg)
Arisu is kredit to team! (http://i.imgur.com/9fgGqzr.jpg)

I miss my scanner.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on March 15, 2015, 07:29:01 AM
Something about Reisen is bugging me but I can't quite put my finger on it. I know you're going for some perspective in the line up, but Reisen's proportions are off. I think shifting your horizon line down a bit might help a little too.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 15, 2015, 09:27:00 AM
Something about Reisen is bugging me but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Maybe that it's actually Tewi who is short like Remilia? :V
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on March 15, 2015, 09:45:11 AM
Maybe that it's actually Tewi who is short like Remilia? :V

derp  :getdown:

...Maybe it is time for me to go to bed.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on March 18, 2015, 08:43:06 AM
Now for Medic, Heavy and Sasha. (http://i.imgur.com/SDmyNnj.jpg)
Google translate woo hoo, intended meaning is this:
Quote
"Charge me, doktor!"
"Ya!"
*poot poot poot*
"Oh no!"
"Dummkopfs."

Also, I accidentally messed the frame order... but screw that.
And this one is based on "Ninjas of Spy".
Hurr durr, gentlemen, hurr durr.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on April 02, 2015, 04:41:53 PM
what am i doing with my life (http://imgur.com/jdSL396,8CY0hdg,V8sr7bQ,EqqrGzj,S9rzZ5I)

What have we learned? 3cm are a margin. You cannot rely on these 3cm being properly shot/properly lit/properly visible/whatever.
That's why we have Arial on the 4th page - original words got shadowed by the binding.
The last page was drawn with fingers on a tablet, and I was too lazy to provide a background there.

You probably cannot reliably determine a map from these backgrounds, so I'll say there that it's supposed to be cp_dustbowl the 3rd.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Tsuken Yasashi on April 04, 2015, 05:08:02 PM
Clever girl...  You're a good artist than what I thought...  Perhaps I should consult on you one day on a few picture concepts I need for my novel series...
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on April 04, 2015, 05:31:25 PM
I prefer to think that I just (possibly cleverly) avoid shots that I'd horribly fail, instead choosing a simpler picture. For example, instead of drawing some head from atop, I'd rather move the 'camera' against the face.
And I also prefer to think I am a boy, though I can totally pretend to be Renko if you so desire :derp: as not that much will change anyway.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on May 07, 2015, 09:59:48 AM
Oh hey I know what is procrastination.
This is my default state huh.
Anyway, pl_badwater (http://i.imgur.com/d9z0T42.png) and a shameless rip (http://i.imgur.com/AzRrUD7.png) off http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1780553 (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1780553).
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Spotty Len on May 07, 2015, 12:44:49 PM
Anyway, pl_badwater (http://i.imgur.com/d9z0T42.png) and a shameless rip (http://i.imgur.com/AzRrUD7.png) off http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1780553 (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1780553).
God, I love Expiration Date so much.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on May 08, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
What is perspective (http://i.imgur.com/sdzd3MI.png)

Okay, I believe a little clarifiction has to be made. This is Parsee Mizuhashi, and the dagger in her hand (yes, it's a dagger) is Your Eternal Reward, a knife that upon a successful backstab disguises its wielder as the victim.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on May 13, 2015, 08:22:12 PM
The dagger is shaped convincingly-enough, but the hair should be more voluminous and poof outward some more. As it is now, it looks like a standard male haircut.

Not much else to say  :derp:
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Post by: Delfigamer on May 15, 2015, 05:59:42 PM
Welp.

Hi, it's Wince with ShamWow! (http://i.imgur.com/uJwO1EL.png)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on May 19, 2015, 10:31:38 AM
Are those expression practices still a fad?
Whatever, have this (http://i.imgur.com/dZG4qTs.png).

Do you know whom does the "pretty" line remind me of? The fact that both of them (if not all three) are rather touchy with the fourth wall doesn't help either.
________

Fine enough :| (http://i.imgur.com/4QIGR9Q.png)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on June 10, 2015, 04:40:28 PM
Just drawn this (http://i.imgur.com/cSPwd1k.png) in FlockMod.
Now I can bump my thread so more people will see my attempt at honk honk.
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Post by: Delfigamer on June 13, 2015, 07:43:22 PM
Gathered together with sos-dan.ru folks.
Mine is the one to the right (http://i.imgur.com/KylmsPQ.png), besides little details and shadows here and there.
You can join too, if you don't mind being among Russian people talking with Skype at 15GMT.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on June 17, 2015, 01:57:31 PM
Experiment time! (http://i.imgur.com/XJjvdb7.png)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on June 27, 2015, 01:56:13 PM
Wait why am I suddenly one of the most active posters in AAA? (http://i.imgur.com/5ERuyyY.png)

Now with sketch stages (http://imgur.com/T8zvmQO,8fToIxx,XZ7UxqR) to show how much I suck and how I still try to fix it ._.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on June 29, 2015, 08:26:21 PM
Wait why am I suddenly one of the most active posters in AAA? (http://i.imgur.com/5ERuyyY.png)

Now with sketch stages (http://imgur.com/T8zvmQO,8fToIxx,XZ7UxqR) to show how much I suck and how I still try to fix it ._.

From the angle that Merry is standing at I feel that her left arm should be more visible. Currently it makes her left forearm look more like her waist in the picture. Both girls' arms are a bit too long. Generally the upper arm ends at the waist, just under the rib cage. I hope that helps.  :ohdear:

Just curious, where is that second source of light coming from? I see they're being lit up by the moon, but what is lighting up Merry's face and Renko's back?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on June 30, 2015, 01:03:17 AM
From the angle that Merry is standing at I feel that her left arm should be more visible. Currently it makes her left forearm look more like her waist in the picture. Both girls' arms are a bit too long. Generally the upper arm ends at the waist, just under the rib cage. I hope that helps.  :ohdear:
Thanks.
Seriously, long limbs is such a persisting problem in this thread... hm, well, should at least take note of it.

Just curious, where is that second source of light coming from? I see they're being lit up by the moon, but what is lighting up Merry's face and Renko's back?
I didn't think much about it. Probably some antique (by the time the Club gets to work) lamp standing on the ground. Making a fire at a cemetry doesn't seem like a good idea to me (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ghostly_Field_Club/Story), and the light from it would be warmer (=more reddish) anyway unless they decide to burn some aluminium or acetylene... even worse idea, really.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 01, 2015, 10:59:56 AM
What is this I don't even (http://i.imgur.com/MuSeUt4.png)
Merry's arm is thin and the hand is oh god.
And Renko is 250cm now holy cow.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Tsuken Yasashi on July 03, 2015, 07:56:54 PM
Artwork has improved... Perspective distancing needs work, since it looks like Renko could be scaled down, considering how close she is to the window.

Say, have you tried photoshop before or any other program that allows scaling multiple pictures?  I could understand if you can't make changes if this is hand-drawn, but if this is computerized drawing, then you should be able to shrink or expand the size of people down to their proper sizes on a case-by-case basis.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 03, 2015, 10:15:13 PM
I use SAI, and it does allow to scale. The problem is, I noticed the size issue only after uploading and posting here, and I'm also rather lazy, so I left it to be.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on July 04, 2015, 12:22:31 AM
I think the straight edges of the room and furniture could use some cleaning up. Is there a tool in Sai that acts like the Pen Tool in Photoshop? Alternatively, Shift+Clicking works as well.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 04, 2015, 12:28:53 PM
I think the straight edges of the room and furniture could use some cleaning up. Is there a tool in Sai that acts like the Pen Tool in Photoshop? Alternatively, Shift+Clicking works as well.
If you are about vector graphics, SAI does support that through special type of layer.
________

Oh. So, the scaling works only with one layer at a time. I expected more.
Anyway, "Shall we go and see the entrance in Rendaino?" ver1.1 (http://i.imgur.com/xmAGRrt.png).
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Post by: Tsuken Yasashi on July 04, 2015, 09:08:07 PM
The 2nd picture looks much cleaner and better.  Keep up the great work there!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 07, 2015, 03:39:06 PM
You would not believe! But we still have lectures in July.
And they're boring (http://i.imgur.com/pYE42u2.png), not big surprise.

Oh look, Yuyuko is a noodle again :derp:
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 09, 2015, 03:03:02 PM
What is perspective? (http://i.imgur.com/9znKUvi.png) >_>"
Before you think too much, the room is a trace from UnrealEd now.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 10, 2015, 07:21:33 PM
Well, in the end, it didn't come as bad as I feared (http://i.imgur.com/DXs2ehc.png), only as usual.
And a little bonus, I messed a little with other people's stuff (http://shirofoxx.blog130.fc2.com/blog-entry-274.html) (again (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15281.msg1014394.html#msg1014394)) and made my new userpic (http://i.imgur.com/x3Cn2XW.png). Incintentally, Shirofox is my personal favourite at Merry and Renko.

Wait, something is missing... yeah, now it's good!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 18, 2015, 07:06:48 PM
A little story of me being lazy and n00b. (http://imgur.com/a/vv37t)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 19, 2015, 08:48:08 PM
Ever wanted to see a picture with some sakura and the word "LAZY" writte all over it? (http://i.imgur.com/anjCDQf.png)
So much bump. Bumping spree!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 22, 2015, 06:47:54 PM
Decided to draw something relevant for a change. (http://imgur.com/98nFfg8,uQD6NfP,Ls6VvJ2,STIAdhl,S5h4vFi,8ahujPV#5)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on July 22, 2015, 07:14:11 PM
Ever wanted to see a picture with some sakura and the word "LAZY" writte all over it? (http://i.imgur.com/anjCDQf.png)
So much bump. Bumping spree!
The stairs seem to confuse me a bit. Are we on top of a hill looking down the staircase? If that's the case then the angle the stairs are at is too steep.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 25, 2015, 07:36:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uKPp0QU.png)

Now with illustration. (http://i.imgur.com/VjOGZRn.png)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on August 02, 2015, 04:02:01 PM
Decided to go over past Guilty Alice themes, here is "Contemporary final boss" (http://i.imgur.com/2aNLiGp.png), except that the clothing is not really that modern and an Extra stage midboss is not really that final.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on August 03, 2015, 05:20:10 PM
Based or not based on a true story. (http://i.imgur.com/6GV0MyG.png)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on September 16, 2015, 07:51:35 PM
Gotta vandalise (http://i.imgur.com/QvUPaPV.png) Soumen (http://shirofox.tumblr.com/post/127945297078) again.
Bonus experiment: 200% more bloom per image (http://i.imgur.com/wRHwXTM.png).
Now this goes into my signature.

Welp, getting this to work with alpha transparency was another story altogether,
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on September 30, 2015, 07:45:39 AM
What happens when Marisa gets her [P]s. (http://i.imgur.com/I3LfQ0j.png)
I just realized that was a right hand.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Tsuken Yasashi on September 30, 2015, 09:31:00 PM
Getting much better.  Just a few more months left until I get a commission request ready for you.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 02, 2015, 05:50:00 PM
Ah, great. Whenever I take a pencil, what comes is either shit and I push (drag) it to the end...
[P]s (http://i.imgur.com/I3LfQ0j.png)
...or shit that I don't push and just ragequit instead.
Yeah, of course, that is exactly the feel that I missed so much. Guess I gonna just lauch a UT and apathetically kill some kitten bots >_>
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on October 03, 2015, 01:03:43 AM
I know that feel... Maybe it is time to try something new? Something like new subject matter, new technique or medium??

I'll be cheering you on from here o/
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on October 03, 2015, 01:08:07 AM
I can relate, too. :( Maybe you can try the lessons from websites like draw.academy or drawabox.com?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 09, 2015, 03:10:46 PM
Thank you!
In the meantime, more stupid jokes (http://i.imgur.com/aaWMV9K.png).
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 11, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
That feeling when you intend to draw amulets, but what came out are capacitors (http://i.imgur.com/aqg7Dbw.png) :colonveeplusalpha:

UPD
Had to finish that at 6AM. (http://i.imgur.com/GeLsFMv.png)
Now, feeling dead inside, I go to sleep.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 13, 2015, 02:50:57 PM
Every lesson (http://i.imgur.com/pNnFstt.png) is an art lesson (http://i.imgur.com/zLy2oo2.png), if you don't care enough.
________

Took a random photo (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Woman_in_white_on_Beach_with_Parasol_1900s.jpg) from Google. I think it was a good idea. (http://i.imgur.com/h7CKnKR.png)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 14, 2015, 03:50:21 PM
And here is one more of those "I'm way too lazy to do this background" things. (http://i.imgur.com/fFZmRWv.png)
Imagine her saying
Quote
See? I really am a touhou. Are you happy to die now?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on October 15, 2015, 02:42:20 AM
And here is one more of those "I'm way too lazy to do this background" things. (http://i.imgur.com/fFZmRWv.png)
Imagine her saying

She looks a bit stiff, especially in the torso region. You can see the curve in the lady's back in the reference pic you have. In yours, Yuuka's vest seems to cover that up, which make her back appear pretty straight. You could also shift Yuuka's weight to one leg a bit more. The pose you have now isn't impossible, but after standing for a while people tend to start shifting their weight on one leg to be more comfortable.

Otherwise, fashionable!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on October 30, 2015, 06:33:36 PM
Okay, striking a pose before my notebook was actually fun. (http://i.imgur.com/nzNKf9d.png)
Ain't I kawaii, uguu~
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on November 07, 2015, 01:43:04 PM
Gonna post it all over the Internet! (http://i.imgur.com/TVhk2uL.png)
And wait.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on November 08, 2015, 08:22:37 PM
Well, this one seems to work. (http://i.imgur.com/zF1rgFg.png)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Mеа on November 08, 2015, 11:16:40 PM
What you've drawn there is Egyptian hieroglyphic art (albeit with the face turned toward us). The twisting of the upper torso is lost. You can notice that she isn't turned all the way to face us because you can see the depth of the rib cage under the armpit area. In fact, it's rather terrifying, what you have there, as though her lower and upper body were chopped in halves and then stuck together in a 90 degree angle, lol. Perhaps that line extending from the collar down to her lower right hip, where the clothes overlap, tricked your eyes into thinking you preserved the twist?
If one can't see the underlying anatomy beneath the skin, then one certainly can't see the underlying anatomy beneath clothes. I would suggest that referencing naked or close to naked pictures of people would be most beneficial? A good exercise you can try (that I've yet to make a habit out of) is to draw a skeleton over whatever naked reference picture you choose. If you're interested, I'll suggest this (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHFBeVaruf2JjyQmZJH4__Zv) video series, where he does just that, in addition to teaching you the individual big skeletal structures. Visuals are neat and helpful, he explains things well, I would recommend it.
The problem is, if you don't at least have a basic understanding of anatomy, you don't know what to expect to look for, so you end up only picking up what you want to see. Which in this case seems to be a regard only for general contours. Which you seem to have done well enough. You want to beat your brain, since your brain will trick you into drawing things you think you see or overlook stuff it doesn't know to look for!

e: also notice how in your sketch, everything is aligned perfectly down the middle and is very stiff. While in the reference pic, motion starts from the top of her head. Her head is tilted to the right, there's a slight curved slant from the upper torso/shoulder area down to her hip, and then a big swoosh out to the left with her leg. Making a giant 'S' shape. More organic than a straight line. Perhaps try look for these overall curves when challenging the next reference picture you choose?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on November 09, 2015, 10:57:13 AM
Thanks for a detailed responce!
In fact, I did draw her sort of naked (http://i.imgur.com/XEiqTnP.png), and, ugh, yes, I didn't understand the twist, so I tried to draw whatever I saw in the reference. Seems like it did not work, after all ^^"

In the mean time, in TF universe. (http://i.imgur.com/5zhftHM.png)
_

The essence of this thread in 3? panels. (http://i.imgur.com/YoRfuKn.png) Hello again, Uncanny Valley!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Pirate on November 09, 2015, 10:38:39 PM
I think it's time i put the boot in on this, because since you've started posting I've not seen a lick of improvement from you. Nevermind anatomy, I have the very big suspicion that you cannot depict even a simple 3d form. What you've done here is nothing more than scribbles of lines. What you need to do now is to understand how to break down the human figure into simple forms rather than crudely outlining it.  And rather than drawing the human figure based on these forms, you should be drawing those forms in perspective until you understand that what you are drawing is not a just flat space but an illusion of 3d.

http://i.imgur.com/0p2maLL.png

Here is a redrawing of the same pose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRHfcqjbPq8

This is proko's take on the matter, but it is better to find others' simplification of the body and decide on your own.

http://i.imgur.com/1JYcB79.png

A guide for faces. If simple forms are past you then you can start by considering the planes on the face.

This will be the last time I ever say this. Listen or don't, but that is all there will be from me.





Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on November 13, 2015, 01:42:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1hydeQO.png) そなのか?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on November 13, 2015, 10:32:44 PM
That was some fairly good advice he gave. How about you take on a practice regimen where you focus on the 3d forms? That may lead to noticeable improvement in the future.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on November 16, 2015, 06:37:00 PM
I have no idea what in the world I am doing anymore. (http://imgur.com/1um9bII,O6OzcGy)
So, we start by searching and marking muscles on photos. Before we touch any muscles whatsoever. Is it there to tell me exactly how miserable I am? Or they want me to learn to google for anatomy pictures?
And, you know, such harsh comments do hurt. Now I've lost any motivation to draw anything whatsoever. What's the point? It's not like I'd suddenly make an improvement after an (yet another) year of the exactly same crap, and it's not like there are that many people enjoying the current stuff.
Though, on the other hand, it's still better to know the specific area where you suck, and how it could be helped.
(http://i.imgur.com/WVoHJPq.png)
Life is sure not easy. Well, maybe that muscle hunt will lead to something. Cannot say for sure until I try, can I?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Kitten4u on November 16, 2015, 07:35:35 PM
I think this is one of your best attempts at capturing form.  From what I can tell, your main issue is that you're focusing too much on contours (the outline of a shape) rather than the form of a shape (how it looks in 3D).  This makes your drawing look flat, and is the most likely culprit for some of your noodlier anatomy.  The difference between just a flat contour and a 3D shape is pretty subtle when drawing on a 2D surface, but if you can picture how the shape would look in 3D it will help your work at lot.  It'll add that extra dimension that'll make your people look more real.  You managed to capture that in this one, so compare it to some of your other drawings and I'm sure you'll see the difference.  It's basically the difference between drawing a square, and being able to draw a cube with the understanding of which parts would be covered, which parts would show, etc. 

I think you'd be able to get some value out of Sycra's forum critiques (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm_w1l5i3L0) from art users on his forum submitted.  In particular, I think the one on form (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bljwvTWp7HI), facial structure (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VboezgjYyfI), building up shapes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwbg0H21rPw), gesture (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGtWtVgGP1U), and general drawing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jAmc5UmVT8) will help you a lot.  The rest of his videos are pretty good too in my opinion and will probably be able to explain some of these things better than I can.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on December 10, 2015, 12:24:20 PM
I think this is one of your best attempts at capturing form.
I still think it's wrong to compare pure tracing with... anything other, actually. Even drawing from a photo requires some mental work (that, as you've seen, you can totally fail at), unlike drawing over it.
The point of this assignment was to find and outline the major muscles, to familiarize oneself with them. And I think I failed the man's left thigh, oh well.

On a completely unrelated note, a couple of frames of total crap (http://i.imgur.com/bS6OO2g.png) and I'm already exhausted (there was more of the story planned). Maybe the school does take strength from me. It's not like I don't have free time, but when I do, it's usually waiting until my tea cools down (with help of danbooru mangas with even more adult humor hue hue) so I can drink it before going to sleep.
tl;dr motivation rekt
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on December 31, 2015, 07:13:26 PM
Surprisingly, 2015 was a very productive year for me.
Just look at this thread: compared to the start of the year, it almost doubled in size!
This is also the first year when I can make this 12 month summary thing (http://i.imgur.com/1Ip4xOp.png) with less than 10 months empty.
Oh well. Hopefully, 2016 would not look like a wiggly bell curve. And not like a hyperbole either :v+α Happy New Year everyone!
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on January 02, 2016, 08:58:13 AM
Still trying to make sense of how music even works T_T Let alone the purpose of each value in a @definition.
UPD Holy crap, no, that was too bad even for this thread.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on February 19, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
This makes sense in context. (http://i.imgur.com/wd1CfJX.png)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Aoshi-shi on February 21, 2016, 01:27:20 AM
A little stiff imo. Have you tried experimenting with a line of action?
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Pirate on February 21, 2016, 04:31:56 PM
So what happened to your studies.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on February 21, 2016, 05:30:02 PM
So what happened to your studies.
Dropped. Not enough determination. You can ignore this thread from now on if you want.

A little stiff imo. Have you tried experimenting with a line of action?
Haven't really, as I draw even less now. Maybe sometime later.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Mеа on February 22, 2016, 12:44:13 AM
I took a look over your whole thread again. I'd say you made some good progress. I saw also a lot of interest in expressing your ideas and self, you've made a lot of comics here. But somewhere you seem to have misrailed and cornered yourself into a "my drawings are utter crap and people won't mind me if I don't work tirelessly on improvement" sort of development hell. Burnt out-ness, perhaps? Maybe it's just my random ramblings, though I can understand what I've said. Taking a break to subconsciously or not gain some new perspectives isn't a bad thing, but I do hope you return to keep up the good work sometime in the near future. Forgive me if I said something erroneous or out of place.
Anatomy is a boiling cauldron of a thing to throw yourself into, which you did exactly that. Google images really is not helpful at all to start with, don't feel bad.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Teewee on February 25, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
Dropped. Not enough determination. You can ignore this thread from now on if you want.
Haven't really, as I draw even less now. Maybe sometime later.

True, perhaps at a later point in time you can get your determination renewed and resume your studies. I don't blame you if you don't; given how your experiences have been, it'd be unfair to blame you for it. I think I know just how you feel.

My advice is to not go back until you're psychologically ready; to me, you seem to have a negative association with the process of learning to draw. That sort of thing can greatly hamper your progress, perhaps even making it pointless to pursue a tutor while it persists.

Anatomy is a boiling cauldron of a thing to throw yourself into, which you did exactly that. Google images really is not helpful at all to start with, don't feel bad.

Indeed, especially when so much of the advice on the internet is so conflicting. :v
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on July 30, 2016, 11:30:50 AM
Yup, I'm still totally ded. (http://i.imgur.com/qVbiB0O.png)
I've never been a person to work hard either.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 30, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
The read order on that is a little hard to piece out. The simplicity has its charm, though.
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Hope ♦ Metal on July 30, 2016, 04:34:31 PM
The read order on that is a little hard to piece out. The simplicity has its charm, though.
I tried reading it right to left at first because of associations. If it looked "western" enough I would have read it left to right instead.

I've never been a person to work hard either.
It doesn't really seem important to me to work really hard and spend like 10 hours a day trying to improve. Sure it'll get you mileage, but if you go in circles it's not really useful. Worrying about how long I spend drawing just makes me feel bad when I can't make myself go over an hour. I'm still not entirely sure the best way to improve for myself, this is just things I've heard other people say. You just need to figure out the best way for yourself.

(You might not really get a lot of use from here because of problems with activity. If you're on a dedicated art forum that would be more useful I think.)
Title: Re: [Art] More derp from Delfigamer
Post by: Delfigamer on September 28, 2016, 06:39:07 PM
It's way beyound midnight here, and at this moment, this (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52018470/Temp/spm.mp3) somehow doesn't sound atrociously bad. I suspect it's because I used an actual sheet this time (https://musescore.com/user/4421/scores/46734). Or maybe I'm just tired after all and will remove the link on the next day.
Amplitude modulation sounds like a cheap trick to <insert nostalgia feel> though.
_

Ah! So that's (http://i.imgur.com/LatZOuQ.png) how it happened.
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Delfigamer on October 26, 2016, 07:54:22 PM
This took so long it can be considered a brick joke at this point hue hue. (http://i.imgur.com/7E7hnxd.png)
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Delfigamer on November 19, 2016, 05:21:56 PM
I'm not sure if I should actually post it, so, going by the principle of "what's the worst that could happen" again, I post it.
Here. (https://youtu.be/9dw7OeK0vGw)
Was it even funny? Was it so cringy you suddenly wanted to close the browser and order some brain bleach? Or maybe it's just plain bad? Tell me about this, maybe I shouldn't even waste my time on such stuff.
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Hello Purvis on November 19, 2016, 10:56:38 PM
I am much too weak to these =[
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Delfigamer on December 02, 2016, 10:45:27 PM
...So did you enjoy it or did you not?

http://i.imgur.com/SenLTI6.png

So again, what was the point of all that? It's almost a universal consensus that I suck at drawing, and ETA to building at least some decent skill hangs somewhere between 10 years and positive infinity. I don't even enjoy the process (obviously), and the results are simply disappointing most of the time, and keep me wondering "did anyone even smile at this?" otherwise.
It's not like I'll specifically quit drawing, but there's like zero reasons to do it either; hence the abysmal activity.
Leave your feedback, if you care, I guess.
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Mеа on December 08, 2016, 09:22:06 PM
Just as an honest sincere question, why do you draw if you say you don't enjoy it? That sounds painful.

e: I mean, you seem to be drawing just to beat yourself up, I don't get it ???
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Delfigamer on December 08, 2016, 10:39:01 PM
I draw to show something, which most of the time amounts to some second-rate joke.
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Mеа on December 08, 2016, 11:21:26 PM
Do you enjoy making the jokes?
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Delfigamer on December 09, 2016, 03:50:37 AM
I guess? I do enjoy having fun, and sometimes I want to share that fun with others. Though often it seems like it wasn't worth the trouble.
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Delfigamer on January 02, 2017, 03:47:00 AM
Eh, it's not like I do that much to filter anything, so I'll put it here as well: a Youtuber as a "catgirl" freaking out at L4D2 anime mods (http://i.imgur.com/iDhS8B2.png).
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Pirate on January 02, 2017, 07:47:11 PM
If you studied the same time you worried about your art you wouldn't have this problem. No motivation is needed if you like to draw. Now you are madamada.
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Delfigamer on January 03, 2017, 12:43:04 AM
Wait, do you think I spent hours every day lamenting about how bad I am at drawing? I certainly don't, there are plenty of other things to do (even when I don't have a lot of work for the uni).
And in my conversation with Mea I literally say that I do not like to draw, I do it to get something drawn (which usually happens to be some dumb joke) and maybe gain a tiny bit of skill as well, to get something drawn better the next time.

...Wait, are you trying to say that I shouldn't feel bad for producing something bad? Duh. Easier said than done.
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Delfigamer on March 06, 2017, 04:22:39 PM
What is this? (http://i.imgur.com/tPqNFdAh.png) What did I achieve with this? Why am I even doing this? Why does it feel like I'm doing the exact same thing again? Maybe because the result is not that different either. I guess I could just say "it's the style dwi", though it won't really change that much.
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Delfigamer on April 21, 2017, 10:09:28 AM
Welp, here we go again (http://i.imgur.com/KCNptBg.png).
Title: Re: [Art+waitwhat] Delfigamer's derp thread
Post by: Teewee on April 23, 2017, 10:10:26 PM
Hm, I think that last one has slightly better detail than the ones you posted before.  :>
Title: Re: [Art] Jealous Witch did something derp
Post by: Delfigamer on August 05, 2017, 03:09:45 PM
You though it's someone new? Ha. Got you.
Anyway, I finally came around to scanning and cropping all the stuff I drew with my hands, so here's a kinda big post.

The first image (http://i.imgur.com/gquzNOf.png) is that of a girl with a knife. As usual, I've screwed up everything I possibly could without a reference, so instead of YER she holds something curvy. Also, I think I've put a colored version in there earlier.

This (http://i.imgur.com/SSiCzjW.png) was supposed to be a fanart of GMod Idiot Box (https://youtu.be/8-OLi4mnSho?t=3m30s), but it wasn't destined to be.

This (http://i.imgur.com/6mZn0wB.png) is me trying something I've done long ago, I drew a room. It came out boring, so I've additionally placed some shadows.

This (http://i.imgur.com/DqaG43P.png) is another thing that was not.

This one (http://i.imgur.com/xjUyjeh.png) was abandoned once I discovered I couldn't decently draw a person who desperately tries to lift, but doesn't.

This one's (http://i.imgur.com/Ssg7J70.png) fault was that the joke grew old before it was even made.

This one (http://i.imgur.com/3oMobHi.png) was a fanart of nope.avi. Initially, it was supposed to have 4 panels, but then I decided the joke wasn't worth the effort.

And here (http://i.imgur.com/ISGjtRB.png) is yet another touhou-gmod comic, this time it's based on this (https://youtu.be/KhKW66JLwiY).

Here (http://i.imgur.com/86IB3ix.png) is just a genderswapped Pyro. Somehow I thought that, among the possible characters of the cute girls, the one that fit the most was a capricious one.

The same video (http://i.imgur.com/eQx7RTX.png), another scene. The fairies being the fairies (https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=28831453), of course.

This (http://i.imgur.com/ikspLNd.png) is another GMod classics (https://youtu.be/huF6nmrgvUc).

And this (http://i.imgur.com/8VyFHhJ.png) is what happens when a year later I decide to finish the last 2 panels. Turns out my "style" has noticeably changed during the time, after all.

If anyone wants more, I also have an Imgur album (http://imgur.com/a/7I4R8) with the scans from my notebooks, in a roughly chronological order, since I can't remember when I drew each of them, aside from the fact it was long ago.

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