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Title: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on January 11, 2011, 06:40:09 AM
As the title says.
I seriously haven't that much of a clue what she would be like if she didn't have her sake. My best guess would be that she would be very observant. Though that's not really not enough to describe her, that's all I have.
What would you say she would be like?

(reason I made this: playing Hisoutensoku, suika vs. yuyuko :V)
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: dustyjo on January 11, 2011, 06:46:57 AM
She'd still be just as cute.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 11, 2011, 06:47:48 AM
She's observant anyway? Go and play Suika's scenario in IaMP.

It's kind of hard to get a grasp on Suika's character, because despite her being constantly drunk she's a lot more intelligent and insightful than much of the fandom believes. I think if she were sober she'd be more focused, but I can't think of much beyond that.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Luneth on January 11, 2011, 06:49:04 AM
Well.. Freaking out over not having sake/being drunk itself. It's been a large amount of years since she's been sober. Since she "Gets stronger the more drunk she is", I imagine she'd be less aggressive a fighter, or maybe even just worse at it. She might figure a few things out she wasn't able to comprehend while she was drunk, but I'm pretty sure no matter what happened she'd wine until she got her sake back.


...Lol, I seriously just spelled that wrong on accident. Funny though.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Helepolis on January 11, 2011, 06:51:36 AM
PMiSS reports: " その為、素面の彼女は見たという報告も無い。 As a result, there are no reports of her behaviour when sober. "

I guess if she is not drunk, she would stop saying this:

(http://i47.tinypic.com/263zml4.png)







Which is bad, so drunk Suika is fine.


Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: HakureiSM on January 11, 2011, 07:01:13 AM
Guess considering her being used to being drunk for so long, she'd probably go into a lack-of-alcohol induced coma or something.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Stuffman on January 11, 2011, 09:06:29 AM
She'd probably just be grumpy and irritable. And thus more dangerous.

Being an oni, drinking really doesn't decrease her physical or mental faculties in any way, in fact she's one of the smartest girls, so I wouldn't expect being sober to give her any improvements.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 11, 2011, 09:28:07 AM
Guess considering her being used to being drunk for so long, she'd probably go into a lack-of-alcohol induced coma or something.
For some reason the first thing I thought of was the robots in Futurama and imagining Suika being "blind, stinking sober".
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Whatthe on January 11, 2011, 04:36:41 PM
If Suika did (however briefly) sober up, Yuugi would never let her live it down.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Iryan on January 11, 2011, 05:18:55 PM
She's observant anyway? Go and play Suika's scenario in IaMP.

It's kind of hard to get a grasp on Suika's character, because despite her being constantly drunk she's a lot more intelligent and insightful than much of the fandom believes. I think if she were sober she'd be more focused, but I can't think of much beyond that.
Very much this. That is why she is my favorite character, after all.

I also agree that she would simply be in a bad mood. Actually, since this would mean that she lost her magic bottle, depending on how she lost it she would either be depressed or filled with righteous fury.  8)
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Smok, destroyer of thoughts on January 11, 2011, 05:46:30 PM
I agree with the bad mood version. Also... IMAGINE THAT HANGOVER!
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Tengukami on January 11, 2011, 05:52:41 PM
Suika would turn into this guy:

[nsfw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZRzeUrVy1o[/nsfw]
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Gpop on January 11, 2011, 06:07:23 PM
Well let's ask an alcoholic, what would they do if they had their booze taken away?
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Wisp on January 11, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
Well let's ask an alcoholic, what would they do if they had their booze taken away?
Oh shit.

If she weren't drunk, I think Suika would be smarter, more alert, more focused, etc. Not as agressive as a fighter, but more "calm and collected." She'd still be just as cute and adorable, though.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Helepolis on January 11, 2011, 07:47:42 PM
Well let's ask an alcoholic, what would they do if they had their booze taken away?

Commit robbery to get money to buy new booze.

Edit: oh wait, they could steal the booze but guess not bright enough for that?
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Kyo Tanaka on January 11, 2011, 08:24:08 PM
She wouldn't be harassing Reimu as much


She sets out on a quest for sake.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: orinrin on January 11, 2011, 08:27:01 PM
She would die and fade out of existence.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Tiamat on January 11, 2011, 09:03:22 PM
Suika's already really smart and alert, though.  (and in some cases, focused, if she has a particular task she wants to do)

Heck, her dialogues in all official works tend to be more coherent (and brutally honest) than the vast majority of Touhou characters.  Granted, lots of people when they're drunk get really REALLY brutally honest, I've noticed (which is probably done by ZUN on purpose, then)

It's generally stated that oni hold their alchohol really well.  So I suppose the end result is that Suika loses all social inhibitions (which is why she just flat out states impolite-but-honest criticisms to everyones' face.  Again, I've seen drunk people do this often) but still doesn't become a complete loon, contrary to her battle animations.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on January 11, 2011, 09:24:52 PM
She's observant anyway? Go and play Suika's scenario in IaMP.
What I meant to say was that she would become MORE observant, though my chosen words weren't the best. :V

Maybe ZUN's reason for making Suika is to have a character love alcohol as much as he does. (though Suika has more) Oh ZUN...
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Whatthe on January 11, 2011, 09:27:23 PM
Indeed, the real question is: What would ZUN be like if he wasn't drunk?
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on January 11, 2011, 09:33:31 PM
Indeed, the real question is: What would ZUN be like if he wasn't drunk?
Well, he most likely is drunk most of the time while he makes his games (since he's very fond of beer) so if he weren't, the games might be slightly easier. (which would be nice considering SA)

I hope his funny side wouldn't disappear though. That's the side we like. (and the loli's too)
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Iryan on January 11, 2011, 09:35:44 PM
Indeed, the real question is: What would ZUN be like if he wasn't drunk?
The games would get much worse. (http://xkcd.com/323/)
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on January 11, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
The games would get much worse. (http://xkcd.com/323/)
"Remember Windows ME?" lol yes. Thankfully, I don't really know anything about that system. Also, Windows Vista and 98 should be in that list too.
Speaking of which, I have a Windows 98. It sucks! I'll just say that now. (freaking partitioned drives. C drive has a whole 8 gb, and that is as much as you can give it)

Oops, I changed the topic. :V
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Gpop on January 11, 2011, 10:06:18 PM
"Remember Windows ME?" lol yes. Thankfully, I don't really know anything about that system. Also, Windows Vista and 98 should be in that list too.
Speaking of which, I have a Windows 98. It sucks! I'll just say that now. (freaking partitioned drives. C drive has a whole 8 gb, and that is as much as you can give it)

Oops, I changed the topic. :V

I got a Win95 somewhere in the house. Oh I'm so old school :V

She would be harassing Reimu even more for sake
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on January 11, 2011, 10:16:21 PM
I got a Win95 somewhere in the house. Oh I'm so old school :V
Has to be better than 98 though. Due to the partitioned drives (C AND D) it causes memory problems. Windows 98 SE (think this applies to the original version too) can only accept up to 8 GB for the C drive, the primary one. While on D, mine has 25 GB there, and only like 2 GB are actually used. My C drive is practically out of memory, so not much can be installed on there now, since programs go there, unless it's Touhou, where I can move wherever I want.
Darn drunk programmers...
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Whatthe on January 11, 2011, 10:23:40 PM
So who could program a better operating system?Suika or ZUN?
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Savory on January 11, 2011, 10:33:02 PM
She'd be one sober oni.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on January 11, 2011, 10:44:26 PM
So who could program a better operating system?Suika or ZUN?
Probably Suika, provided she knew how to do that. Though ZUN doesn't know how to program an OS most likely. If it's seriousness, can I choose neither?
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Savory on January 11, 2011, 10:53:43 PM
Probably Suika, provided she knew how to do that. Though ZUN doesn't know how to program an OS most likely. If it's seriousness, can I choose neither?

Microsoft Sake
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Iryan on January 11, 2011, 10:54:43 PM
Microsoft Sake
iBuki
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: KrackoCloud on January 11, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
I imagine her to be completely devoid of energy and enthusiasm. She would sway around and walk into walls... And all the problems she ran away from would come back to her.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: RegalStar on January 12, 2011, 02:35:26 AM
She'd probably go berserk. Being Suika, the results aren't going to be pretty.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Helepolis on January 12, 2011, 07:30:38 AM
iBuki

Oh god, mini suikas EVERYWHERE even in your bad apple products.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Drake on January 12, 2011, 07:40:56 AM
And all the problems she ran away from would come back to her.
she has no problems she killed them all
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Ryuu on January 12, 2011, 07:42:53 AM
And all the problems she ran away from would come back to her.

because people only drink to run away from problems?
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Gpop on January 12, 2011, 01:48:39 PM
because people only drink to run away from problems?

Men drink away their sorrows as women eat ice cream to help them get over their own problems.

But...she's a girl...
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Infy♫ on January 12, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
she gets her strength from her booze.

so if she's sober, she's weak. she's easily fooled, since her drunkness makes her more alert. (taken from soku dialogues)

so yeah, if she'd get sober she'd be a small fry.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Tengukami on January 12, 2011, 02:16:07 PM
Men drink away their sorrows as women eat ice cream to help them get over their own problems.

Not really. While there's a slightly higher percentage of male alcoholics than female alcoholics, both men and women are equally likely to have a genetic disposition towards alcohol. And female alcoholics tend to drink harder, and suffer greater damage to their health, than males.

EDIT: But anyway! Suika would just do what most addicts do - substitute alcohol with another substance. Maybe she'd become a crackhead.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Whatthe on January 12, 2011, 03:45:20 PM
This pretty much says it all. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeTboHieI88#t=1m13s) So if Suika sobers up, she'll turn into Reisen?
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Savory on January 12, 2011, 05:00:16 PM
She would sway around...

Doesn't she do that when she's drunk?
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on January 12, 2011, 10:33:21 PM
Doesn't she do that when she's drunk?
She'd do it anyway for fun. (probably because she would get bored after a few days)
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: KrackoCloud on January 12, 2011, 11:15:31 PM
Doesn't she do that when she's drunk?
Sorry. I meant that as an illustration of her lack of energy, rather than a lack of balance.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: chirpy13 on January 13, 2011, 04:12:23 PM
Grumpy and childish until she gets more booze.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on January 17, 2011, 04:22:32 PM
What question is this? I think she'd be exactly the same, except for not drunk.

She'd be that type of girl that is impulsive, energetic, fierce, ignorant when it comes to talking, and always seeking for a fight to test her strength.
Title: Re: What would Suika be like if she wasn't drunk?
Post by: Aya Reiko on January 18, 2011, 07:57:58 AM
Probably having the hangover to end all hangovers.