Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 - 17F (Read 169435 times)

LonelyGaruga · « **Reply #390 on:** May 20, 2018, 02:33:46 AM »

Quote from: Krhinji on May 20, 2018, 01:57:07 AM

I haven't run into this bug yet, but if I do I'll try and think of anything that happened before it.

Ah yeah, I guess I should explain what I was doing in the first place. I had reset my whole party and allotted library levels, EXP, and skill point items. I then next did the HP Orbs, but when I went to MP I realized there were 0, along with TP. When I reset, the MP/TP Orb total exceeded 200 afterwards, so I initially presumed it was some kind of overflow glitch and the Orbs capped at 200 (the Skill Point item caps at 200), but when I loaded another save and redid the process my Orbs were of an ordinary count that exceeded 200, so that was not it.

I suspect that it does involve resetting, but I don't seen any reason for this to have occurred.

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Libra · « **Reply #391 on:** May 20, 2018, 03:18:14 AM »

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RegalStar · « **Reply #392 on:** May 20, 2018, 03:53:51 AM »

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After entering the Infinite Corridor I got this series of messages.
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"As the last of Yamata-no-Orochi Hollow's remaining essence has been absorbed, the "Dust Stock" system within Infinite Corridor has been unlocked! If the party has any Seven-star dust possessed when exiting Infinite Corridor, a percentage of the seven-star dust will be converted to "dust stock". Dust stock can be used to exchange items in between floors like seven-star dust, and will not be reset when leaving the corridor; they can only be used up by purchasing items. Make use of these dust stock in your travels!"

Something that might be worth testing is if getting wiped in the dungeon will preserve dust as well.

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zeroxtime62 · « **Reply #393 on:** May 20, 2018, 03:57:52 AM »

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IRUN · « **Reply #394 on:** May 20, 2018, 06:49:34 AM »

Dragon God was fun to battle.

And WINNER is no joke.

Also, his new design looks pretty awesome.

And is it just me, but does he resemble Rinnosuke?

General_Milky · « **Reply #395 on:** May 20, 2018, 07:59:30 AM »

I JUST finished the translated game and had come here to post about it, and lookie, it's updated with more content I can't read. Guess it's time to wait for the translators to catch up on the new content all over again, and on that note, I suppose I'll see everyone in 2020! Seriously though, thanks to the translators for doing good work. The current English patch of Plus Disk has typos and untranslated strings sprinkled through it, but at least I was able to play what turned out to be a pretty good expansion of what was already a pretty good game thanks to your efforts. I have some friends off-site also playing this so believe me, your work's appreciated by more than you all probably know.

As for the game itself, Labyrinth 2's Plus Disk wipes the floor with Labyrinth 1's in the same way the game itself does. I found Labyrinth 1's plus disk needlessly minmaxxed and all but unapproachably grindy. Labyrinth 2's general quality of life improvements (affinity hints via colored damage, challenge levels next to bosses, and visible lifebars in battle) made this one MUCH more playable without constant reference to a wiki, and I was surprised at how little grinding was actually necessary to progress. The flow in general was 100 times better, and while after beating ***WINNER*** in Labyrinth 1 soured my overall opinion on the game, I'm rather excited to see if I can beat this one's version of him and still want to start over all again, just like I did after Hollow Yamata No Orochi. I expect a grindwall NOW, but I don't think I'll mind it... Plus Disk has a satisfying, playthrough-ending conclusion as it is without the need to go hunting down the level 1000 super boss.

Guess I'll wait patiently for the next translation patch to join the fun on this new stuff. In the meantime, I have a second playthrough to finish.

LonelyGaruga · « **Reply #396 on:** May 20, 2018, 08:28:23 AM »

'ight, got

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down now. I had to do a second take due to the recording program lagging toward the end, but just as well, first was kinda sloppy. Link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuyuk4ly308 for anyone wanting to watch.

Main difficulty imo is simply its sheer durability. It almost feels like a punishment for all the Plus Disk bosses annihilated in 2-3 attacks...

IRUN · « **Reply #397 on:** May 20, 2018, 08:51:56 AM »

Out of curiosity, has anyone beaten WINNER yet?

Libra · « **Reply #398 on:** May 20, 2018, 09:27:24 AM »

Tried to record the boss fight in floor 29 , https://youtu.be/HwdQoXXoTJw . They didn't get to use any of their most dangerous attacks this time.

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Blue Wokou · « **Reply #399 on:** May 20, 2018, 04:31:56 PM »

So, I didn't have a save file of right after I'd done everything available in the previous update. I had one where I'd just reached b9f, and one where I had been mindlessly grinding while watching youtube and stuff. I didn't want to use the super-advanced one, because everyone was around lvl 1300 or so, and I didn't want to just steamroll everything. So, what I did was copy EVF01 from the super advanced one over to the other, and gave myself 56 dark fragments with cheat engine so I could bypass rocks and stuff.
Lemme tell you, going through the new stuff at around lvl 300, I am so glad I awakened Rumia and Reisen. I knew statuses were good, but holy carp, using Aya, Yuyuko, Rumia, and Reisen makes random encounters a joke. Even most of the B11F enemies will just kinda lie down and die for you. Alice with Trip Wire can be better in the upper floors, but a lot of those enemies are also just vulnerable to death, so Yuyuko makes quick work of them.

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Yggdrasil · « **Reply #400 on:** May 20, 2018, 04:36:34 PM »

So, something I just noticed in regards to crafting stuff since I'm preparing for the first 29F boss.

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seeker3218 · « **Reply #401 on:** May 20, 2018, 05:09:32 PM »

Hey, guys, new guy here. I've been playing Labyrinth of Touhou 2 for some time now and I installed the latest patch of Plus Disk. However, when I got up to 28F, I can't move from my position and it's not marking tiles for me. I beat Yamata-no-Orochi Hollow, and I'm at 60F of the Infinite Corridor, but I didn't beat the Enforcer of Power or Kedema Goddess yet. What am I supposed to do?

seeker3218 · « **Reply #402 on:** May 20, 2018, 05:37:52 PM »

Actually, never mind about that last post. I needed to repatch the game, and it all worked well.

Libra · « **Reply #403 on:** May 20, 2018, 05:49:48 PM »

Quote from: Krhinji on May 20, 2018, 04:36:34 PM

So, something I just noticed in regards to crafting stuff since I'm preparing for the first 29F boss.
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Machine God Lucifers now require the material that I have only seen as a drop from ***WINNER*** so far. This means you can only have Machine God Lucifers if you luck out in the Corridor, assuming things haven't been changed, or you beat him. I don't remember the other "endgame" crafting items having anything else other than the super rare Endless Corridor chest material, either.

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Blue Wokou · « **Reply #404 on:** May 20, 2018, 06:54:16 PM »

Am I dumb for only now noticing that the infinite corridor character bosses are going in the order that the characters appear in, say, the shrine level up screen or the library screen?

Validon98 · « **Reply #405 on:** May 20, 2018, 08:19:03 PM »

Someone mentioned in the thread before something about turning off spell animations in 2? Is there a way to do that? I can't think of a way, unless it involves porting over the thing that does it from LoT1.

elminster1372 · « **Reply #406 on:** May 20, 2018, 09:23:39 PM »

Wait, you mean that MGL now requires more than just 3X Iron Man's Headband? Damn, I should've crafted at least one before passing to the new patch lol

Libra · « **Reply #407 on:** May 20, 2018, 09:54:17 PM »

Quote from: elminster1372 on May 20, 2018, 09:23:39 PM

Wait, you mean that MGL now requires more than just 3X Iron Man's Headband? Damn, I should've crafted at least one before passing to the new patch lol

Yeah, all of the most powerful equipment (Medicine of Life, MGL, Tupsimati, Ringil, Scourge and Power Dragon Scalemail) now require 2 additional materials each ( Otherwordly Black Hole, Legendary Soul, Dark Boulder of Disaster, etc. ), MGL has the most steep requirement with the Golden Swordfish Statue (plus 3 Iron Man's Headband and a Paracelsus Azoth).

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Validon98 · « **Reply #408 on:** May 21, 2018, 12:40:27 AM »

Oh I just

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SAFE TO SAY THIS MAY REQUIRE THEM BEING HIGHER THAN THE MID 700s, OOPS.

LonelyGaruga · « **Reply #409 on:** May 21, 2018, 12:47:05 AM »

Need to test this further, but Dust Stock conversion rate thus far appears to be 10% for leaving dungeons, and 1% for being wiped out. I need to double check for the former, I had foolishly assumed it would be a 1:1 conversion rate, so I didn't keep track of my original Dust quantity.

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Also, doesn't appear to have been discussed here, but on 29f there's a boss fight against

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qazmlpok · « **Reply #410 on:** May 21, 2018, 12:56:42 AM »

Quote from: LonelyGaruga on May 21, 2018, 12:47:05 AM

Also, doesn't appear to have been discussed here, but on 29f there's a boss fight against
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"King of Chaos", the Demi-Fiend from Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne. JP player has a video up of it on YT, boss level is 1280 and naturally summons more enemies to aid it. As with Rance and...whoever the red silhouette is (Arcanum Knights' protagonist, or another Alicesoft character?), the Red and Green boss pair, the Demi-Fiend is a silhouette.

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RegalStar · « **Reply #411 on:** May 21, 2018, 01:49:22 AM »

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Xarizzar · « **Reply #412 on:** May 21, 2018, 02:37:33 AM »

I wonder if anyone can confirm whether or not that OP equipment can be dropped from the lower floors of the Infinite Corridor, still...

RegalStar · « **Reply #413 on:** May 21, 2018, 03:09:16 AM »

Quote from: LonelyGaruga on May 21, 2018, 12:47:05 AM

Need to test this further, but Dust Stock conversion rate thus far appears to be 10% for leaving dungeons, and 1% for being wiped out. I need to double check for the former, I had foolishly assumed it would be a 1:1 conversion rate, so I didn't keep track of my original Dust quantity.

Conversion rate seems to be based on consecutive number of floors cleared. I cleared 20 floors consecutively and got 20% of the remnant converted, at least. (This also means that while it would be technically possible to gather enough stock to get a MGL without advancing a single floor, it's probably going to take you weeks if not months to pull that off)

LonelyGaruga · « **Reply #414 on:** May 21, 2018, 04:02:30 AM »

Ah, that makes sense. I ran 10 floors before leaving a dungeon and then 1 floor for the wipe out, so that would be where I got the 10% / 1%.

Unrelated, tried out Dragon God's Power on Tenshi. Dragon God's Breath is insane, absolutely shredded

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even at 100% DEF/MND buffs. Besides confirming its incredible strength, found it now costs 15 MP and has 0 delay, as opposed to 12 and 2400 like before. I haven't checked to see if the damage formula is still the same or not.

Serela · « **Reply #415 on:** May 21, 2018, 04:43:54 AM »

It sounds like the damage formula was probably buffed, which would not be surprising.

Myosotis · « **Reply #416 on:** May 21, 2018, 04:59:51 AM »

@Validon98
I don't know how the other person did it, but I used cheat engine to do so, have not bothered to make it work for plus disc though.
Other person who had a way to disable them never replied to me so I'm still curious if they did the same or if there's an actually obvious way to do so without the use of tools (please respond)

That aside, really surprised about the sudden update, still unsure if this one includes -all- of the promised features or if there's still something missing, but if people can rush through it in a day, I won't get my hopes up too much.
What about the missing skill-unlocking items, are they all there now?

IRUN · « **Reply #417 on:** May 21, 2018, 05:06:52 AM »

All the special items are available, yes.

Serela · « **Reply #418 on:** May 21, 2018, 05:09:23 AM »

Quote from: Myosotis on May 21, 2018, 04:59:51 AM

That aside, really surprised about the sudden update, still unsure if this one includes -all- of the promised features or if there's still something missing, but if people can rush through it in a day, I won't get my hopes up too much.

To be fair, it's only a small handful of floors. It's just that those floors have all the big superbosses and mega endgame content in them. Grinding ahoy!

Also presumably a large hunk of infinite corridor, but it remains to be seen just how much we've got now. Well, makes the grinding a bit more interesting. Assuredly you can now Awaken your entire party, which is nice.

zeroxtime62 · « **Reply #419 on:** May 21, 2018, 05:14:53 AM »

Quote from: Serela on May 21, 2018, 05:09:23 AM

Also presumably a large hunk of infinite corridor, but it remains to be seen just how much we've got now.

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