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http://kourindou.exblog.jp/14332117/
Touhou 13 - Ten Desires
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[ruro]I'm a bad person, I'm sorry.[/ruro]
I don't get half because I don't know how to moon and GTranslate makes it confusing, but he mentions is releasing a trial during Reitaisai. Maybe.
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:D Yay.
[18:03] <Edible> OH MAN
[18:03] <theshim> okay looking forward to like NOBODY'S BUSNIESS
[18:03] <Edible> IS THAT SPELL PRACTICE I SEE
[18:03] <ArashiKurobara> ... oh god yes it is
[18:03] <Iryan> FUCK
[18:03] <Iryan> YES
[18:03] <Iryan> YES IT IS
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Someone sub this quickly QUICKER QUICKER GOD DAMMIT I WANNA KNOW ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRG
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YOUMU BUT NO SAKUYA LOL
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[00:02] <Iryan> please less addblend please less addblend please less addblend please less addblend
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Oh hey, spell practice.
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No Phantasmagoria though :(
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<ScrappingSakana> YOUMU PLAYABLE?
<ScrappingSakana> HELL YEAH
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Is that Youmu in the player select? :*
And look at the things floating next to Reimu on the title screen. :derp:
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I am overjoyed.
EDIT: Also, wasn't Youmu playable in TH08? Glad to see her come back.
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oh man oh god
YOUMU
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And look at the things floating next to Reimu on the title screen. :derp:
Souls!
They are like U.F.O.s, only more soul-ish!
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It better not just be youmu as a new playable
needsmoreyuukaneedsmoreyuukaneedsmoreyuuka
God dammit this game better be good and add some really good characters. I've also been waiting for ZUN to make some sorta copycat character as dat'd be BA
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FUCK YOU ALL FOR INTERRUPTING ME :V
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wrists
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From the title screen and screenshoot, looks like the gimmick this time involves little floating orb dudes (who are red, green, and blue like ufos)
Also under the first screenshot says desu :V
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The layout of it looks beautiful and...
what the, wait, WHAT THE?!
Youmu is playable?!?!
Where the f**k did Youmu come from?! O_O I want my Yuuka!
AH! Too many replies!
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Also this game is called TEN DESIRES
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The layout of it looks beautiful and...
what the, wait, WHAT THE?!
Youmu is playable?!?!
Where the f**k did Youmu come from?! O_O I want my Yuuka!
AH! Too many replies!Also this game is called TEN DESIRES
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HOW DO YOU ALL KNOW MY THOUGHTS OMG
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Hm, what do you think the title "Ten Desires" could mean? Maybe those floating orb guys are called "desires?" LMAO.
ninjad x2
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Where the f**k did Youmu come from?! O_O I want my Yuuka!
Considering that he has to have worked on the game for a long time, the popularity poll cannot possibly have affected the playable character choice here at all. :derp:
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It looks so pretteh! And smooth!
It looks almost cemetery-ish from the screenshots. And was Reimu's gohei always that big? It seems to be channeling Elly's spirit in the title screen.
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My God a new one at last? I'm wondering what's going on in that second to last picture there.
New game mechanic or a spellcard?
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those 3D backgrounds oh man oh man oh man
(attempt #5 at posting)
Also holy shit spell practice <333333333333333333
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I know, I know. To be fair, I didn't think he'd go on that anyway.
It's just nice knowing that we finally know it's on its way. Though I'd pay anything right now for a translation of that page. :3
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>playable youmu
YES
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Is it just me or is Sanae in this screen?
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> The main characters include Reimu and Marisa as usual, as well as Sanae, who's trying to learn to use divine spirits effectively, and Youmu, who's here to deal with any divine spirits that aren't under her control.
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Yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoumu
Is it just me or is Sanae in this screen?
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Yeah it's Sanae
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Is it just me or is Sanae in this screen?
http://i55.tinypic.com/wweyop.jpg
Without a doubt.
And she is channeling UFOMarisaB.
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lololol Zun said he's making this game easier :V Going back down from the UFO rapeage
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god fucking dammit sanae is in this game mad
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oh yessssssssssssssssss <3
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lololol Zun said he's making this game easier :V Going back down from the UFO rapeage
Last time he said he was making a game easier, he released shoot the bullet.
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I WAS RIGHT!
( I had an idea that the next touhou would have a stage in a cemetery.)
BUT SERIOUSLY I WANT IT SO BAD
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YAY!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!
AND IT WILL BE IN THE SPACE!
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It looks almost cemetery-ish from the screenshots.
東方Project第13弾 東方神霊廟 ～ Ten Desires. Touhou Project 13 bullets mausoleum TVXQ ~ Ten Desires.
Bulletfights over the dead~
Last time he said he was making a game easier, he released shoot the bullet.
Japan.
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god fucking dammit sanae is in this game mad
now all we need is someone to yell that it's mima and we're good
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Last time he said he was making a game easier, he released shoot the bullet.
That was a while ago :V
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now all we need is someone to yell that it's mima and we're good
Mima dressed as sanae
hot
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"FUCK THAT GREEN HAIRED SLUT" ~Hitler
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Grr, stereotypical fan reaction
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And now comes the two week wait :trollface:
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Suddenly the entire forum activity is reduced to one thread
Gotta love it here.
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Demo to be released at Reitaisai
And depending on what is meant by "the game's difficulty will be lowered..."
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Suddenly the entire forum activity is reduced to one thread
Gotta love it here.
Heck yes. 8)
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Suddenly the entire forum activity is reduced to one thread
Gotta love it here.
There are nowhere near enough colors in that pic. MODS GET IN HERE
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now all we need is someone to yell that it's mima and we're good
I'll shoot them if they do. ?_?
After looking at the pictures, it does seem like something that would involve Youmu. But damn it Sanae, again with you.
Glad to see Spell practice in again; I quite liked that from IN all that time ago. ^^ (Is not the only one who does, surely.)
Damn it you guys; why so many posts? :derp:
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Suddenly the entire forum activity is reduced to one thread
Gotta love it here.
It is a touhou forum :derp:
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now all we need is someone to yell that it's mima and we're good
Well, it's about spirits (again) so, yeah. Let them Mima-hijack begin~
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There are nowhere near enough colors in that pic. MODS GET IN HERE
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It is a touhou forum :derp:
no shit
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There isn't a oh desire joke in this thread yet
huh
Everyone (?) expected Sanae to return. :V
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Oh hey, time for a Z-Machine update.
Sweet, Youmu.
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If you count the games in pairs, then this one starts the tenth pair. Coincidence?
and inb4 Navi jokes about the orbs
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Fuck yes I've been thinking about how much I'd like Youmu to be playable again too
ZUN IS BEST ZUN
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I knew sanae would return yeah, but I dont really see whats so good about her aside from the green hair.
on second thought, school girl + green hair = oh yush
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There isn't a oh desire joke in this thread yet
huh
Everyone (?) expected Sanae to return. :V
ahem
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There isn't a oh desire joke in this thread yet
huh
Are you even kidding
it's the first thing RainbowSuicoma did
/me
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I knew sanae would return yeah, but I dont really see whats so good about her aside from the green hair.
on second thought, school girl + green hair = oh yush
So you'd rather have only Reimu and Marisa playable? :derp:
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/me
INCOMING GAME
Also ZUN is using heart sprites for lives now! :]
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So you'd rather have only Reimu and Marisa playable? :derp:
fuck no
tbh, I was hoping for a new character to be playable.
then again thats just me. And yeah I knew there'd be at least two others aside from reimu and marisa.
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So you'd rather have only Reimu and Marisa playable? :derp:
I wouldn't mind, I only play the one anyway~
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Sqeeeeeee
Also, cemetery huh? Fascinating...
Edit: Why can't I press post... ;_;
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So, looks like we're exploring a mausoleum. Given this is an undead problem, remind me why Orin isn't helping out again? [And haven't we been through the too many dead spirits thing already with PoFV?]
Also, there'd better be a Michael-Jackson-outfit-reverse-trap-loli making a Thriller reference. Or I will be very disappointed.
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And now comes the two week wait :trollface:
I'll live. Barely.
Aw, man. Sanae's okay and all, but I didn't want her to become a major character. Youmu's playable though? Oh, thank you. Thank you so much.
Two sentences. Seven replies. One more sentence. Six replies.
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But if you think about, 4 people when there are normally 6 shot types?
Either ZUN is doing like IN & EoSD and leaving it like that, or he has another 2 surprises to come...
Thinking time... XD
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ZUN loves the dead a lot
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So, looks like we're exploring a mausoleum. Given this is an undead problem, remind me why Orin isn't helping out again? [And haven't we been through the too many dead spirits thing already with PoFV?]
Also, there'd better be a Michael-Jackson-outfit-reverse-trap-loli making a Thriller reference. Or I will be very disappointed.
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NEW CHARACTER
ZOMBIE RENKO
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You guys
Kyaaa playable Youmuuu :V
No Phantasmagoria?
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guiz
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Either ZUN is doing like IN & EoSD and leaving it like that, or he has another 2 surprises to come...
Thinking time... XD
You can clearly see Marisa using two different shot types. This is probably it.
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To be honest one of the biggest things both my friend and I are excited about is the ZUNart and the expressions their portraits have.
Also from the title screen ya can see a red, blue, and green... floating orb things. Possibly a sign of something much like the UFOs or just random art ZUN put in? Either way I'm excited to figure out.
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but reimu is an undead zombie so yeah
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but reimu is an undead zombie so yeah
But she doesnt have renkos hat
I swear to god renko = Michael Jackson. trufax
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Looking very damn sweet! Can't wait for the trial version!
Also, FUCK YES SPELL PRACTICE.
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Also from the title screen ya can see a red, blue, and green... floating orb things. Possibly a sign of something much like the UFOs or just random art ZUN put in? Either way I'm excited to figure out.
they have a pretty big significance in Touhou 13's TOUHOU PLOT.
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AHAHAHAHAHA PLOT
it's funny because (SPOILERS) dora the explorer is the final boss
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Oh man, the skull icons in the corner look intriguing.
Can I has PC-98 reincarnation, preferably Elly? ;_;
Also from the title screen ya can see a red, blue, and green... floating orb things. Possibly a sign of something much like the UFOs or just random art ZUN put in? Either way I'm excited to figure out.
Second to last screenshot has a lot of the blue ones floating around.
Also, what is Reimu saying?
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Can we hope Mima is back? I certainly hope so!
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these characters better have fun outfits to cosupray or I swear to gawd
inb4 HEY MY OUTFIT IS ADORBLES AND LOOKS CUTE BUT DEFIES ALL THE LAWS OF PHYSICS AND GRAVITY
...the final boss is gonna be a shapeless loli blob who floats and/or is upside down.
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A straight-up shooter, eh? That's nice to see. I like the morbid theme behind this, too. Leaves a lot of possibilities open.
AHAHAHAHAHA PLOT
it's funny because (SPOILERS) dora the explorer is the final boss
Looks like someone had a little too much sugar today.
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Also, 17 cuts. I dare you to beat that.
Has this happened yet? :V
I'm excited for the 4 characters to play as.
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Kinzo will be the final boss.
I've said all I'm going to say on this matter. Good day.
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I don't get the fanatic hype over Mimareturn, but it would be cool indeed :3
The art far as I can tell is really pretty too :3
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Changed back to Youmu-avy for HYPE :V
Anyway, now my greatest interest is in what new characters we will get. Writers, sharpen your pencils, there is fiction to be written soon :3
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A straight-up shooter, eh? That's nice to see. I like the morbid theme behind this, too. Leaves a lot of possibilities open.
Looks like someone had a little too much sugar today.
I hope this explains it. (http://www.fanfiction.net/search.php?type=story&plus_keywords=touhou&ready=1)
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Also, what is Reimu saying?
oh boy i wonder what's with all these shinrei mysteriously appearing from out of nowhere?
I don't get the fanatic hype over Mimareturn, but it would be cool indeed :3
I do, but only because I'm a massive PC98 faggot
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can you assholes please stop interrupting me :getdown:
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CRY ABOUT IT
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Spoilers: the five magic stones are going to make their triumphant return - as the final boss.
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There was no February.
Now then, once again snow has suddenly fallen and it's gotten cold this year, but it's finally starting to feel like spring a little.
So, I'll be participating in the Hakurei Shrine Yearly Festival (Reitaisai) again this year.
This year's product will be "Touhou Project #13: Touhou Shinreibyou [Mausoleum of Divine spirits] ~Ten Desires." (trial version)
Touhou has finally made it to number 13 (not that there's been much fuss about it being #13). When I think how long I've been releasing one work a year, there sure have been a lot of different game systems, haven't there?
I've added a few things that will make the game system a bit more complicated in order to keep the difficulty level down a bit.
Basically, the story is "Suddenly a large number of spirits appear - the type that are called divine spirits! A young girl appears to investigate, knowing this can't be left unchecked."
The main characters include Reimu and Marisa as usual, as well as Sanae, who's trying to learn to use divine spirits effectively, and Youmu, who's here to deal with any divine spirits that aren't under her control.
One of my goals is to make it fun to just beat all the enemies even on lower difficulty levels, so I'm releasing a trial version to see how it went.
Watch out for our advanced "business as usual"!
Crappy translation might be crappy.
Can we hope Mima is back? I certainly hope so!
Mima is never coming back, and Sanae will never be a playable character - she's a god!
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Hell yes!
Here I was fearing 12.9 ._.
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Activity update~
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YOUMUUUUUUU!
...and I was worried ZUN had gone and ret-conned everything before TH10. Shame on me :3
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Sanae will never be a playable character - she's a god!
solalalalalala please make babies with me
Spoilers: the five magic stones are going to make their triumphant return - as the final boss.
Surely. If this actually happened I'll be busy laughing at those expecting meemer
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I hope this explains it. (http://www.fanfiction.net/search.php?type=story&plus_keywords=touhou&ready=1)
Was talking more about the peels of laughter about Touhou having a plot.
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CRY ABOUT IT
And yeah. We're all excited, but maybe you could be less spammy.
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I'd actually like a boss that's not humanoid for once. >.>
Also, what we really need is a RETURN OF MR. GHOSTY! Perfect opportunity too seeing as how the game's about spirits! Divine spirits sure, but Mr. Ghosty will suffice!
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HYPER MODO ENGAGED.
Yeah, I think the spikey spirit things are more akin to traditional powerups. Check the amount of them in the second Marisa pic, as well as the timer, background, and general super shots.
Also, woo Youmu. :D
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oh boy i wonder what's with all these shinrei mysteriously appearing from out of nowhere?
Now what's a shinrei? Cause google is only giving me an anime dude. :getdown:
It is those divine spirit thingymabobbers?
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You know this is starting to sound like that weird plot I had in my head. Basically some youkai is mourning or something/decides to get revenge and releases Spirits to attack people. Most of the game took place in a cemetery.
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I've added a few things that will make the game system a bit more complicated in order to keep the difficulty level down a bit.
One of my goals is to make it fun to just beat all the enemies even on lower difficulty levels, so I'm releasing a trial version to see how it went.
"I made it easy but then I made it hard :trollface:"
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Well from what I've seen, the last kanji can be read as palace, and it's divine spirits, so could we be taking a trip to the Dragon Palace? Meeting Iku's boss?
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Now what's a shinrei? Cause google is only giving me an anime dude.
at least it's not giving you animedude :getdown:
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Now what's a shinrei? Cause google is only giving me an anime dude. :getdown:
It is those divine spirit thingymabobbers?
Yeah, a shinrei is pretty much a divine spirit.
Well from what I've seen, the last kanji can be read as palace, and it's divine spirits, so could we be taking a trip to the Dragon Palace? Meeting Iku's boss?
To be honest, there's too little out right now to really make a judgment. Perhaps we'll know or have an idea once the demo comes out?
at least it's not giving you animedude :getdown:
that's a terrible joke and you know it. Believe it!
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"I made it easy but then I made it hard :trollface:"
Whatever it is, I hope it is not too hard on the graphics cards so that I can play it properly :derp:
Also SHOCKING PLOT TWIST:
[00:39] <Iryan> Sanae is actually not the descendent of Suwako but that of Mima
[00:39] <Iryan> which explains the green hair
[00:39] <Iryan> IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
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Well from what I've seen, the last kanji can be read as palace, and it's divine spirits, so could we be taking a trip to the Dragon Palace? Meeting Iku's boss?
Hmmm, Doubt it. But then again, Seems like it MAY be, But the dragons palace doesnt have anything to do with the dead, no? Hmmm.
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kay guys calm down
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GOD DAMMIT
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"I made it easy but then I made it hard :trollface:"
Classic Zun is classic.
I love how I can F5 every few seconds and there's already a bunch of new messages. *Hyped*
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I feel doing something special to celebrate the occasion but I have a test in a couple of days.....
Also, more YAAAAAAYYYYSSS
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Also SHOCKING PLOT TWIST:
Why not both? :smug:
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OH GOD YES this would be a perfect time to bring back the bakebake ghosts
DO IT ZUN
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UUUUUOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
And hey, ZUN actually made it to number 13.
Though those little sprite dudes are on the title screen, they just seem to be the new zako enemies. That's like, the fourth generation?
Also, whoo for weird new Sanae shottype.
Also. Ten wishes... What does that mean?
Maybe a character who grants wishes decides to listen to the regrets and wishes of the dead, and that excites all the ghosts?
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Why not both? :smug:
Oh man this needs to become a doujin
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OH GOD YES this would be a perfect time to bring back the bakebake ghosts
DO IT ZUN
... What?
Oh, five bucks says he brings back Rin Satsuki (speeling?), with some awesome form of nercomancy or something.
on a side note im not going to look at this thread for 15 minutes. It'll prolly be page 7 by then >.>
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OH GOD YES this would be a perfect time to bring back the bakebake ghosts
DO IT ZUN
I am behind this man
No not in that way you sickos
The bakebake ghosts are adorable!
Oh man this needs to become a doujin
What makes you think a doujin like that doesn't already exist?
Somewhere out there, it is being made. Or if it isn't. It will be.
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Pretty excited about this. I wonder what the new gimmick is.
With four characters, is he doing teams again? That would be interesting. We'll have to wait and see.
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OK, getting the full translation of what he's talking about, it looks like there is indeed going to be some nifty new mechanics added to the game. Which I'm also down with. I was just missing a six-stage we-have-to-solve-the-incident shooter. An underworld theme is pretty fitting for 13, too.
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Whatever it is, I hope it is not too hard on the graphics cards so that I can play it properly :derp:
Also SHOCKING PLOT TWIST:
No, no, no. Sanae is just Suwako and Mima's lovechild.
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Also. Ten wishes... What does that mean?
The ten desires are what's keeping Mima's spirit from attaining nirvana :inmybones:
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Acronym time.
10D or TD?
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Spoilers: the five magic stones are going to make their triumphant return - as the final boss.
If that happened, I would pretty much die laughing. Then promptly go 'YES. HELL YES. HELL MOTHERFUCKING YES. ...but seriously, what the hell is going on here.'
Because that just sounds amazing and terrible.
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... What?
Bakebake ghosts are the PC-98 enemies. They have a giant tongue coming out their mouth and were pretty much cannon fodder... but they were awesome cannon fodder. Why? It didn't matter how many of their number you killed, it didn't matter how threatening you were. They would just keep coming with their smug faces, as if all your efforts, all your victories, all your battles were for nothing. Because they knew passed your flying turtles, your spellcards, your giant yin yang orb... you were nothing.
... Thus why they must make their return.
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Acronym time.
10D or TD?
TOUHOU: 10D'S
LOLIS ON MOTORCYCLES
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Acronym time.
10D or TD?
I guess TD because I can't think of any other title with a # in it.
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10D is better, more unique.
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Acronym time.
10D or TD?
TD sounds better to me at least. Totally delicious, in fact.
TOUHOU: 10D'S
LOLIS ON MOTORCYCLES
LOLIS ON FLYING MOTORCYCLES.
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10D is better, as it makes it sound like the game is ten-dimensional.
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I'll alternate between the two. That and I might be retarded and refer to it as the Ten of Diamonds instead just to be a raging dortwagon.
But yeah, either or, though I'm leaning towards 10D.
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I'm for TD.
Also aguahgushgushag the art is actually really damn good and still ZUN-style.
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I keep associating TD with Tower Defense in my head TBH, so I'm also leaning more toward 10D.t
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I thought UFO art was really good too. :wat:
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TOUHOU: 10D'S
LOLIS ON MOTORCYCLES
That's all I can think of when people say 10D.
Also holy shit that art!
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Personally I like 10D. Even though we have MS, IN, SA; TD just seems really bland and lifeless for a new game.
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10D. Games like IN, SA, and DS are harder to notice in text for me because they look short and unimportant at first glance.
Also, I just realized Marisa's options have turned into shiny stars!
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If you wanted to go Roman numerals about it, you could call it XD.
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they were like that in ufo you ninny
pay more attention to games
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I like 10D
I'll use XD for the lulz every now and then, though. Thx Ammy
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I'm needing an accurate romanization and translation of 東方神霊廟 here.
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Commence the entire forum flocking into this thread, holy crap. :V
Obviously excited myself, especially now that I know Touhou 13 will be a standard vertical shooter (because I don't want to wait another year for one). Why the latter point? I realized that even after something like 15 months with the series, this will be the first integer Touhou game released since I first joined it. I'll make sure to stay on top of this one.
And furthermore, is that Youmu?
YES. :*
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Fakeedit: I feel like sticking with letters for Touhou abbreviations, so TD.
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Ah you guys. :V
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Touhou 13 has new playable character!
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I'm needing an accurate romanization and translation of 東方神霊廟 here.
Touhou Shinreibyou
Eastern Divine Spirit Mausoleum
廟 is interesting in that it's a shrine that holds ancient relics and such. Mausoleum seems to fit the best.
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Hypers!
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I like 10D. TD is a bit too generic, and XD is, well, a bit strange as a game acronym.
I am really wondering at what the lower difficulty entails. I am guessing that it will be like IN in that playing normally is simpler than usual but the gameplay mechanics involve more strategy.
Also, I am liking the illustrations - a decent improvement over UFO and still retains his style!
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Argh, the entire forum came in just for this!
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LOL @ Kinzo's image.
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EDIT: Yay 10 posts! Oh, and Youmu as a playable character seems interesting. Wonder how she'll play....
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omg finally new touhou *w* Youmu playable? very good.
but sanae...again
why Zun? ._.
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What is wrong with Sanae? :<
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Oh you! I want to play her first!
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I don't want Mima to ever return to the series and it had better not start now. I swear to god
but FUCK YEAH TOUHOU 13 :D
Personally, I desire her return.
Therefore dibs on desiyah 1.
9 desires left guys chose them wisely.
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Touhou 13 has new playable character!
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/manmuppet/OHDESIREScopy.jpg)
Ohhh you... :o
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XD is, well, a bit strange as a game acronym.
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4602/boxlh.jpg)
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they were like that in ufo you ninny
pay more attention to games
I thought they were Hakkeros in UFO :/
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(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4602/boxlh.jpg)
I'm not sure if you were using that to prove his point or not...
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I'm needing an accurate romanization and translation of 東方神霊廟 here.
廟 is interesting in that it's a shrine that holds ancient relics and such. Mausoleum seems to fit the best.
So 廟 is byou and 猫 is byou...right? When I saw that 廟 was pronounced byou I was starting to think Orin would be in this game. Orin had a lot of evil spirits floating around her, but this wouldn't be too far out of her league, right? Did ZUN ever say there were going to be new characters, or do you think he'd use old ones in this game? I'm thinking new characters, but...
9 desires left guys chose them wisely.
Dibs on desire 2
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Hypers!
Yeah, seems like it.
Looking at the screenshots, the skull in the left corner has three symbols around it--one blue, one red, and one green. The title screen indicates that the new enemies also come in those three colors. Shooting down the new enemies probably fills the respective symbols around the skull. The fourth screenshot makes it look like once those three symbols are filled, the skull lights up (which appropriately conveys the amount of destruction hypers typically bring), and you'll be able to activate a hyper for a limited period of time.
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Touhou 13 has new playable character!
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/manmuppet/OHDESIREScopy.jpg)
Wow this picture made me realize how long Reimu's hair braidthingamajigs are now
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Desire 3 is mine
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What is wrong with Sanae? :<
she's a slut
9 desires left guys chose them wisely.
Desire 10's mine
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Orin's going to be a refuckingdiculous stage 5 boss again.
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she's a slut
Desire 10's mine
Desire 6 is mine.
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Did ZUN ever say there were going to be new characters, or do you think he'd use old ones in this game? I'm thinking new characters, but...
ZUN has made mostly new characters for every Touhou game. No final boss has ever been a repeat. (Possible exception: Mima
which means she's totally gonna be the final boss here, right?
:inmybones:
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LOL DESIRE 4 IS MAI WAIFU
geez guys
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What is wrong with Sanae? :<
sorry but I can't stand her ?^? anyway it is just my opinion...
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OMG
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OHIIIIIIIIII *dies
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What are you doing there fellow-servant? Shinrei are not ghosts. They do not fall under our jurisdiction. Even if the gods they are associated with are dead. That is a matter for the Yama.
(but hell yes moar Youmu anyway)
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I don't want Mima to ever return to the series and it had better not start now. I swear to god
Eh. I doubt it. She's prolly' just gonna still be placed firmly in the 'wishful thinking' section of that sort of thing.
And hopefully stay there. :Vc
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4602/boxlh.jpg)
Pfffffahahahahahaha.
I was thinking of that, actually.
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GOG DAMMIT.
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OH, COME ON.
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Looking forward to new girls in funny hats then
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I get 0 Desire
OOOHHHHH
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Blog update: (http://www.yeahright.co.jp)
You might notice Reimu's hair is longer now. Well, part of the story will be that she needs a haircut, but the barbershop is closed, so she needs to look elsewhere. Unfortunately she runs into a lot of bad luck that keeps preventing her from getting a haircut. Is that where Youmu helps out? Maybe, you'll just have to play the game and see!
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Pfffff
Man, remember the days when getting a haircut didn't involved jumping through a million hoops?
I don't!
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Blog update: (http://www.yeahright.co.jp)
So what are the other 9 desires? BV
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Youmu's hair looks kind of different too.
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Blog update: (http://www.yeahright.co.jp)
I thought that was legit at first. :derp:
edit: Playably is a really weird/not-actually-a-word word.
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I hope we don't have to play a silly minigame to get bombs like in UFO. Atleast not one that makes you run into bullets.
But these 3 colored things look like they might be exactly that. :ohdear:
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Filtering out my ectasy over Youmu being a playable character, does anyone know anything about these divine spirits referred to? I'll eat Sana's hat if they don't have some rooting in eastern mythology somewhere. And yeah, it's kind of amusing how long Reimu's hair has gotten. I think this is a new length record.
Now resuming fangasming.
Oh my god Youmu I don't care if you'll probably have that unwieldy shot type you had in IN and I'll probably end up using Reimu as always because forward shot and small hitbox squee you're playable~~~
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Orin's going to be a refuckingdiculous stage 5 boss again.
My money is on Orin being EX boss.
And also stage 1-6 midboss. Because she just doesn't give up. :V
Also Sakuya's continued disappearance pretty much cements that she actually listened to Shikieiki in PoFV. Interesting.
Also looking forward to more Youmu time. Maybe she'll get some good lines since she's not playing the straightman to Yuyuko.
Oh right: Praying UFOs for life is dead. Or that this game doesn't hate colorblind people at least....
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Yeah, Youmu definitely has bed-head. It's a good look for her.
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Long hair Reimu is love <3
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But of course :V
Youmu~~~~
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The game looks awesome too, but to me, all of ZUNs stuff looks awesome
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I see everyone is excited about this too~~~
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Anyone wanna starts guessing on the name of the Final Boss? Sariyo comes to mind for me
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>8|
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My thoughts exactly :V
Also, I'll take desire π
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YEAH FUCK
I HAVE MY TABLET READY
GONNA DRAW THE NEW GIRLS LIKE FUCKING LIGHTNING
WATCH OUT JAPAN
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YEAH FUCK
I HAVE MY TABLET READY
GONNA DRAW THE NEW GIRLS LIKE FUCKING LIGHTNING
WATCH OUT JAPAN
IM COUNTING ON YOU SLABDG
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Youmu <33333
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YEAH FUCK
I HAVE MY TABLET READY
GONNA DRAW THE NEW GIRLS LIKE FUCKING LIGHTNING
WATCH OUT JAPAN
And that was how Salamander conquered the earth.
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I don't know who claimed dibs but I am stealing one of the desires. I desire that touhou 13 will give Youmu something other to do than be exasperated at Yuyuko. If fandom can create kogasana out of complete bullshit they could do this for the half ghost girl.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms
Maybe? I don't know
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms
Maybe? I don't know
Huh, well it does have 6 "Bad" levels.
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th13: teapartywithyukari and witches
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Maybe it'll be like HRtP where there were over 6 levels, but it'll be 10 instead of 20.
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So this game is obviously going to have Mima in it because it's about spirits, just like in SA. It's already been decided, you can't argue it. :dealwithit:
Also Marisa's costume is literally going to be purple as opposed to just be flashing purple when using the hyper function, so I mean how can you possibly not think Mima's going to be in it.
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(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4591/teaparty.png)
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Yeah, glad you highlighted that warp thingy, as it seems to be in another screenshot, too. Could be some gapping action!
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So I'm guessing 6 stages of oh desire and then 4 stages of tenshi tenshi tenshi....
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Maybe it'll be like HRtP where there were over 6 levels, but it'll be 10 instead of 20.
No, clearly. It'll break 20 and go into brainfuck levels of 'oh god' and have 30 stages.
Obviously.
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Oh hey new game yay.
Edit: Also, spell practice. :getdown:
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if Orin's actually in it, I hope she's even harder than in SA.
Also, hope I can enjoy this one. Wonder what the system and scoring is like. I already want to get into SA scoring once I bother to learn how to do it, but I'd like for another game where it'd be nice to do.
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FUCK I WAS PLAYING MVC3 WHEN THIS WAS ANNOUNCED.
Youmu playable, spirits, oh god this is gonna bring so much damn hype I'd better hide in a bomb-shell.
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Maybe this is hinting at dimensional switching as part of gameplay. In that case 10D / TD / XD (still waiting for consensus) may play more strategically, albeit easier.
Or Yukari is somehow involved again, similar to many Touhou fan-fictions.
Or the girls of Gensokyo learned how to think in portals, and the last boss is GlaDOS *shot amid Portal 2 hype*
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I'm personally more interested in what Youmu's shot types are gonna be like. One's probably gonna resemble her shot in Imperishable Night, but that still leaves one or two others.
I'm surprised that she's getting a playable appearance, but at the same time I think I kinda expected it. Since she's half-human, I suppose she fits the necessary requirements.
Just speculation, but this also might be the start of a Hakugyokurou-character arc in the overall series. EoSD more or less got one (Sakuya's playable appearance in PCB, as well as both her and Remi in IN, along with how the inhabitants in the SDM got a major role in SSiB), and both Cage in Lunatic Runagate and Silent Sinner in Blue were direct sequels to IN. On top of that, you might said that Subterranean Animism and Hisoutensoku are both direct sequels to Mountain of Faith as well. Personally, I've been wanting more focus on the Hyakugyokurou gals for a while now, so the prospect does kind excite me.
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I wonder what new batch of bosses we'll have this time.
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Sweet~
I can't wait to see the stage bosses. :3EDIT: lulz no interruptions when posting~
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The forum is just exploding.
I'd go for TD, and Mausoleum sounds like a good interpretation, but we'll really have to see what poor dimension / temple / building alike is going to take on the wrath of Reimu, thievery of Marisa, destruction of Sanae, or... Myon-ness of Youmu.
Ten Desires sounds like a tie in for a local myth or gossip that ZUN decided to dig up, which will become uber popular, and should it still exist in a physical realm, it will be the next biggest hype to Suwa Shrine Usurpation.
It's interesting that ZUN is bringing back the old "spirit outbreak --> pissed off shrine maiden --> goes to deal the problem from its source" pattern. TH9 and TH11 had its share as well, but doesn't sound as much prominent as this one.
Phantom (TH7), Evil Spirit (TH11) and now "Divine Sprit" (TH13). I'll laugh if ZUN tries anything Western here... *no way no way*
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I'm personally more interested in what Youmu's shot types are gonna be like. One's probably gonna resemble her shot in Imperishable Night, but that still leaves one or two others.
I'm surprised that she's getting a playable appearance, but at the same time I think I kinda expected it. Since she's half-human, I suppose she fits the necessary requirements.
Just speculation, but this also might be the start of a Hakugyokurou-character arc in the overall series. EoSD more or less got one (Sakuya's playable appearance in PCB, as well as both her and Remi in IN, along with how the inhabitants in the SDM got a major role in SSiB), and both Cage in Lunatic Runagate and Silent Sinner in Blue were direct sequels to IN. On top of that, you might said that Subterranean Animism and Hisoutensoku are both direct sequels to Mountain of Faith as well. Personally, I've been wanting more focus on the Hyakugyokurou gals for a while now, so the prospect does kind excite me.
That actually makes a lot of sense, and I'd love to see Yuyuko return (or maybe even Youki's first REAL appearance).
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(or maybe even Youki's first REAL appearance).
Youki as potential boss? :3
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(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/MasterBigode/Untitled-2-8.jpg)
A mysterious skull meter...
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/MasterBigode/Untitled-1-35.jpg)
Is this the spinning enemy thing from SoEW (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Story_of_Eastern_Wonderland) ?
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Youki as potential boss? :3
Youki as secret playable character :V
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It's interesting that ZUN is bringing back the old "spirit outbreak --> pissed off shrine maiden --> goes to deal the problem from its source" pattern. TH9 and TH11 had its share as well, but doesn't sound as much prominent as this one.
Phantom (TH7), Evil Spirit (TH11) and now "Divine Sprit" (TH13). I'll laugh if ZUN tries anything Western here... *no way no way*
These dang spirits never learn. Talk about your residual hauntings.
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I just realized a small skull (a bit creepy) on the left bottom of the screenshot. And the spirit looking mark is "depleting" at each screen shot.
Necro-moe! O_o;;
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Youki as potential boss? :3
Bosses akin to stage 4 of IN. Youmu's would be Youki. Because Youki.
Youki as secret playable character :V
Or this.
Also god damn your posting speed, everyone.
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Sanae seems to have inherited UFO's MariB shot. Karma of some sort?
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That actually makes a lot of sense, and I'd love to see Yuyuko return (or maybe even Youki's first REAL appearance).
I wouldn't know about a "real appearance", but at least a flashback or somesuch would be nice. Well, honestly, I could take it or leave it. We don't even know what Marisa's old man look like yet, and we know for a fact that he's actually alive and in Gensokyo.
I can't really see him as a boss though. He's not a girl. At least, I don't think he is, anyway. And I don't really think the cloud counts, since he was more or less an accessory to the girl. Or maybe the girl was the accessory?
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I wouldn't know about a "real appearance", but at least a flashback or somesuch would be nice. Well, honestly, I could take it or leave it. We don't even know what Marisa's old man look like yet, and we know for a fact that he's actually alive and in Gensokyo.
Yeah, that's what I mean. First appearance with, y'know, canon art. Isn't OldMan!Youki a fanon thing?
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If that's really some sort of Hyper in the 3rd gameplay pic I'm going to love this so much.
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I can't really see him as a boss though. He's not a girl. At least, I don't think he is, anyway. And I don't really think the cloud counts, since he was more or less an accessory to the girl. Or maybe the girl was the accessory?
The boss will be Youki's Myon and Youki will be the accessory :getdown:
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Is this the spinning enemy thing from SoEW (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Story_of_Eastern_Wonderland) ?
Looks more like the modern kedama design actually.
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Yeah, that's what I mean. First appearance with, y'know, canon art. Isn't OldMan!Youki a fanon thing?
Hm..... In that case, maybe he's a beautiful young man? Oh, or maybe a childish-looking trap! Half ghosts age much slower than humans, so it wouldn't be unlikely, right? Hehehe....
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Youki as potential boss? :3
Lol that would be quite awesome.
Also hyyyyyypeeeee!
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Hm..... In that case, maybe he's a beautiful young man? Oh, or maybe a childish-looking trap! Half ghosts age much slower than humans, so it wouldn't be unlikely, right? Hehehe....
You had me at trap!Youki. You are amazing for planting that image in my head.
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fuck yeah youmu is playable
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(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/MasterBigode/Untitled-1-35.jpg)
Is this the spinning enemy thing from SoEW (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Story_of_Eastern_Wonderland) ?
The first time i saw this i thought it was the blue orb thing seen in the menu. It even seems to have a face.
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I still hope one of two things:
-Mima comes back.
-A tanuki character is included.
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not a Phantasmagoria game
Spell Practice
I'm fine with this BV
Well, not entirely with SP, as it screwed up IN's difficulty pretty badly, but I'll wait and see.
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-A tanuki character is included.
Well, there was one in OSP chapter 11... (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Monster_Tanuki)
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I'll laugh if ZUN tries anything Western here... *no way no way*
Utsuho is the crow that stole the sun from Native American Mythology.
WHAT NOW?
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Utsuho is the crow that stole the sun from Native American Mythology.
WHAT NOW?
Next game: Reimu VS. Quetzalcoatl
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*reads all stuff about Youki* *notices the word "childish"*
Okay, now I want a shota.
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how Mima-sama could reappear in this game: (just ideas, don't take them seriously :D)
- as a stage boss (may be in an alternative route, or not)
- as an optional boss (like cameo bosses from Armed Police Batrider), who appears under special conditions after you've defeated the boss of a stage
- as a final or extra boss (..right?)
- as a True Last Boss! (who heals herself if you bomb her, while having an invincibility shield as well -- which lasts longer than your invincibility does --, and who shoots bullets back at you if you shoot at her while her shield's on :D)
- as a Playable True Last Boss! (obligatory reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKP7pYn_LA))
- as a stage 4 boss who has copied spellcards and attacks from other bosses like Marisa did?
I hope (seriously now) that the gameplay is fun and doesn't force me to memorize stages or to limit my paths severely in order to score :(
Also, not that this have worked in past games, but it's still fun to guess what would be the game's plot.
- The title screen may hint to a travel to Makai or something similar, despite the title itself? (note the transition from the human world to.. somewhere else)
- skulls may mean Deathsmiles that some people from SA are also playable? :p (especially since they may also have spirits to take care of)
- it would be really funny if TH13 is somehow a consequence of TH12 (which is partially a consequence of TH11, which is a consequence of TH10 :D)
- wonder if Youmu will retain her IN option or her bullet-clearing close-range attack
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Prediction:
The final boss will be a character very similar to Mima with lots of similar spells and designs. However it won't be Mima, because ZUN's a massive troll.
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(obligatory reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKP7pYn_LA))
!? :o !?
BEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS
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Hmm i wonder whats written Youmu's character select screen?
Looks like its to small to read though. :(
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Well, there was one in OSP chapter 11... (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Monster_Tanuki)
Never even knew about that character xD
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I... It appears Reimu's sleves are...
attatched.
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I... It appears Reimu's sleves are...
attatched.
:o You're right!
Obviously she's been possessed.
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Look closer dudes and dudettes.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/214e1qe.jpg)
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They definitely still look detached, there's just a small gap over her shoulder though.
Quote bubbles, hmm.
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ZUN's a massive troll.
It's only trolling if you know what the fans want in the first place. Ripping off your older works for convenience or because you forgot you'd used the stuff before does not a troll make.
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Oooh, Touhou 13. *hype*
Youmu playable is interesting. Mausoleum is interesting. Return of ghostys would be awesome. [/ihavenothingnewtoadd]
Although one of the first thoughts I had reading this is maybe the characters are dead again? It's possible considering the skull meter and whatnot. Also might explain Youmu's involvement.
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Ah. Yeah, I can't see a color difference, but I suppose Zun wouldn't put a fold line there.
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I was worried for a second there. Reimu without armpit exposure is totally wrong on so many levels. :|
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Holy shiat, a NEW GAME!
And PLAYABLE YOUMU! :o
*crossing fingers for Mima* Please ZUN, please don't be a troll for once. :ohdear:
*wishful thinking*
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Oooh, Touhou 13. *hype*
Youmu playable is interesting. Mausoleum is interesting. Return of ghostys would be awesome. [/ihavenothingnewtoadd]
Although one of the first thoughts I had reading this is maybe the characters are dead again? It's possible considering the skull meter and whatnot. Also might explain Youmu's involvement.
But ... reimu's a zombie
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Quote bubbles, hmm.
So it's the UFO and FW style melded together. I wonder if the boss meters will be the same as FW.
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But ... reimu's a zombie
undeath=/=death
Although this is Gensokyo so maybe it does.
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I notice there doesn't seem to be an enemy position indicator at the bottom; Fairy Wars also didn't have one. I was really hoping that was a one-game thing.
Yeah, looking at it more closely, what I thought was one of those boss circle things was actually a large explosion. Wow I feel silly.
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Back to the EoSD basics. :V
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I really did not like GFW's health meters, so I'm hoping for the ones used almost everywhere else in the series.
Or at least an option of the 2.
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I notice there doesn't seem to be any bosses in those pics.
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So it's the UFO and FW style melded together. I wonder if the boss meters will be the same as FW.
i hope not, i didn't like those. the bar at the top of the screen is easier to see.
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I notice there doesn't seem to be any bosses in those pics.
Maybe they're just being kept secret from us.
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Next game: Reimu VS. Quetzalcoatl
That would be a very interesting game, even if it is only to see whether Reimu ends up as a human sacrifice.
I would like to see more Chinese and Korean mythology in this game, but knowing ZUN's focus on Japan in the games that is very unlikely.
Though I think the chances of that are more likely than a Mima cameo :D
Although one of the first thoughts I had reading this is maybe the characters are dead again? It's possible considering the skull meter and whatnot. Also might explain Youmu's involvement.
May be likely. Judging from the dimensional warp on the title screen and the skull meter, I presume they are shifting frequently between the worlds of the living and the dead.
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I notice there doesn't seem to be any bosses in those pics.
I guess I'm not really familiar with the wait period between Touhou games, but I don't think ZUN would release new character info this early. Earliest I think we'll probably hear about new bosses is when the demo is released.
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I guess I'm not really familiar with the wait period between Touhou games, but I don't think ZUN would release new character info this early. Earliest I think we'll probably hear about new bosses is when the demo is released.
This pretty much.
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Well, my day is complete. My day will be even more complete when new characters are revealed in the demo and slash happens!
Well, technically, my day will be over by then, but still.
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Holy shit there's actually a Touhou 13??!?!?? *HYPEEEEEEE* :getdown:
It's..... it's...... it's like a dream come true....... FUCK YEAAAHHHHHH! NO TOUHOU 12.9!!!!!!!!!!
Also, lol at Sanae coming back. Youmu as a playable character is pretty awesome too! I can't wait to see how she plays out~
Btw, calling dibs on Kogasa coming back as a secret playable character, boss, or even better- an extra stage boss!
When does the demo/ game come out? I can't wait.........
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Those things following Reimu around. (http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201102/28/42/e0088742_711822.jpg) Perhaps on-the-fly shot type configuration, like in Gunstar Heroes?
[Edit] Oh man. Just think, Seven Force and Golden Silver in a Touhou game. :getdown:
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YOUMU!!!!!!! AND SPELL PRACTICE!
Okay, enough shouting. Actually excited about this...for now, until I get my ass raped in the game
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZ3xiWDqEA&t=7m23s
Hmmmm......
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Now that I think about it, do those colorful things behind Reimu remind anyone else of the Pixls from Super Paper Mario?
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Those things following Reimu around. (http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201102/28/42/e0088742_711822.jpg) Perhaps on-the-fly shot type configuration, like in Gunstar Heroes?
[Edit] Oh man. Just think, Seven Force and Golden Silver in a Touhou game. :getdown:
Seven Force would fit quite well in Touhou IMO. I think you also forgot Smash Daisaku (or whatever that red-suited enemy's name was) while you're at that (though I don't know how he could fit in the Touhou game mould).
Or it could be like Alien Soldier with several selectable shot types and a quick menu to change them. Those, and maybe the game turns into a big boss rush.
EDIT: Maybe it could be like Radiant Silvergun instead ~ wait, no. I think that's enough Treasure references.
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Oh just great.
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I think you also forgot Smash Daisaku
WARNING WARNING WARNING
BOSS IS APPROACHING
AH AH AAAH!!!
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WARNING WARNING WARNING
BOSS IS APPROACHING
AH AH AAAH!!!
I NEVER DIE!
EDIT: On a more relevant point, those floating things reminded me of the Dr. Mario viruses combined with the Chao in some Sonic games. No idea how that occurred.
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Now that I think about it, do those colorful things behind Reimu remind anyone else of the Pixls from Super Paper Mario?
That was actually the very first thing I thought of.
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No playable Ran, not interested
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guys can i have dl link to th13 plz???????????????
Acidus.
Your delicious tears have delicious tears in them. Why are your QQs so meta. =<
[Edit] HAH!
Also, I'll take it easy about this until it's released. Too much speculation can be bad.
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Why the hell I can't help thinking that those thingys behind Raymoo are Mima's Orreries Suns. The tongue ever turns to the aching tooth, I guess :derp:.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZ3xiWDqEA&t=7m23s
Hmmmm......
ooh obscene obscene
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Huh, I wonder if those speech bubbles will present any problems to the Gensokyo.org folks who do the English patches?
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*bandwagon* :V
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Hm..... In that case, maybe he's a beautiful young man? Oh, or maybe a childish-looking trap! Half ghosts age much slower than humans, so it wouldn't be unlikely, right? Hehehe....
You had me at trap!Youki. You are amazing for planting that image in my head.
um...he have at least 300 "temporal" years. our Youmu have 60 (in PCB era) he have 5 times her age.Then, all depends of how we see Youmu: if she looks very young (like 10 years old, for example) he would have have a very handsome 50 years, but personally imagined who he even look more young (in his 40...maybe 30 :3) and only leaves his hair-beard-etc grow for look more old (and avoid discussions about be "not normal" same thing who happen with Rinnosuke)
...would be weird if Youki look only few years older than Youmu...and a trap! Youki would be funny, but random (maybe if we think who who he do that for look Youmu training without be discovered will make sense, but...)
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...i want my 30-40 years yummy handsome Youki! (biseinen, for contrast with our bishonen Rinnosuke) XD
very happy to see Youmu in a new game!
edit: i like the idea of a changeager Youki...his spirit is so iluminated who he can change his age if he wants....um interesting...interesting.
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http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&global=1&q=ten+desires#/d3akdun
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TEN DESIRES
Love
Money
Power
Sympathy
Yuuka
Sex
Sex
Sex
Sex
SM Sex
AM I RIGHT?
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I NEVER DIE!
You're my favorite now.
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TEN DESIRES
Love
Money
Power
Sympathy
Yuuka
Sex
Sex
Sex
Sex
SM Sex
AM I RIGHT?
100% agree. best post
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No Phantasmagoria though :(
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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youmuyoumuyoumuyoumuyoumu
She better have her near godly bomb, Myon being able to be aimed in any direction, the strongest forward focus shot, and some kind of scoring advantage from being half ghost...
And I still want Reimu to have Homing Reimu and PCB/EoSD style Needle Reimu.
Marisa seems to be getting PCB Missile/UFO Laser styles, so!
Sanae gets the UFO MarisaB treatment, but maybe she'll have an actually effective bomb to compensate.
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Huh, I wonder if those speech bubbles will present any problems to the Gensokyo.org folks who do the English patches?
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*bandwagon* :V
Iirc, 12.8 had those same type of speech bubbles. And that got translated well enough
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Trap!Youki
Related (http://oi53.tinypic.com/qq253m.jpg)
Trap Youki is best Youki.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
It'd be cooler if it was.
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First thing I'm gonna do when I get my hands on it, though, is find a vsync patch and play it at 90FPS.
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Yay, anybody notice that the colours seem to blend in an extra pretty fashion? Like the colour depth went from 65k to millions or something, I dunno.
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Touhou 13 music leaked !!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17fuL43j_0E&fmt=18)
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100% agree. best post
nee, and if can add a 11 th will be more Touhou yaoi. this http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=16960050 and even a collective work http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=16953651 will be sell for the Reitaisai. this is my another oh imposible OH DESIRE.
And Touhou 13 of course. XD
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Hmm i wonder whats written Youmu's character select screen?
Looks like its to small to read though. :(
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6306/youmu13.png)
pretty hard to read but from what i can see
「冥界の土地も有限よ、余計な？？は全？？！」
'the underworld's land is limited', *cant read next bit, probably something like 'getting rid of all the excessive spirits!'
「迷のか神霊を？つて霊けないと調査に？？げる」
investigating what kind of spirits are those mysterious shinrei? not sure about this line
youmu's title looks like 死欲の半霊, half-ghost who seeks death?! :V
shot type looks like 猛攻の居合いタイブ -> uh heavily offense-orientated Iai type, what does zun imply with iai? youmu attacks really fast? mist finer? :colonveeplusalpha:
shot: 高速時 剣気 -> fast...normal i suppose shot is SWORD AURA!
溜撃ち ？？鉄斬 結跏趺斬 -> charge shot...whatever something that cuts iron maybe lotus stance cut from SWR
＊低速移動中ショットは撃てません -> cant use charge shot in focus mode?
スぺルカード：空観剣「六根清浄斬」 -> spellcard: voidness sword 'slash clearing the six senses' -> spellcard from soku?
特殊能力： 低速移動中の？たり判定が？？に小さい -> dunno about this one, something about something being small during focus mode, no idea what 判定is referring to here...hitbox? attack range?
霊界での攻撃力が高い -> attack power is high in the spiritual world. maybe the 'hyper' is a state achieved through collecting the UFO-like spirits?
anything could happen :V
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Touhou 13 music leaked !!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17fuL43j_0E&fmt=18)
Wait, what? Since when?
And are we sure this is official? Sounds unlike most title screen music so far...
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YOUMU?
YOUMU MOTHERFUCKING KONPAKU IS PLAYABLE?
AND MOTHERFUCKING SPELL PRACTICE?
I'M DOING MOTHERFUCKING BACKFLIPS RIGHT NOW
:getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:
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shot type looks like 猛攻の居合いタイブ -> uh heavily offense-orientated Iai type, what does zun imply with iai? youmu attacks really fast? mist finer? :colonveeplusalpha:
Mist Finer? Oh dear, I don't want Youmu to play like Guilty Gear's Johnny.... :ohdear:
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Touhou 13 music leaked !!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17fuL43j_0E&fmt=18)
Yes, source please.
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Touhou 13 music leaked !!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17fuL43j_0E&fmt=18)
Yes, source please.
+1 to source request.
It doesn't sound like the others though. I can partly tell through the GS guitars and percussion in the background, which IIRC isn't very common in ZUN's music.
EDIT: Funny how some of the tags mention Edirol SD-20 modules, which is from Roland. Plus I noticed it was indeed Roland percussion samples in the background, so I fixed it (mixed it up with Yamaha XG).
EDIT2: See below post for actual source (thanks Commissar).
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BTW That's Yuki's theme you derpfaces.
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Mist Finer? Oh dear, I don't want Youmu to play like Guilty Gear's Johnny.... :ohdear:
Are you kidding? This would be incredible.
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I think that these news have had a MUCH bigger impact on me than CVM3, Pokemon Black and White, and the 3DS (combined).....
Well, that new Paper Mario game for the 3DS matches up to Touhou 13 in my list of most anticipated games (hence the "Paper_Conan"), but that doesn't count :V
btw, I still can't wait to see how ZUN manages to troll us this time around (unless he already did with Sanae).~
Also,
YOUMU KONPAKU CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL TH13!!!!11!1!!!!1!!1
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Are you kidding? This would be incredible.
Yeah, but I wasn't a very good Johnny player in the GG games (I tended to play as Jam, Millia, and Sol).
If this game actually ends up like this, though, I'd try and create massive combo chains (Roman Cancelling FTW) and then proceed to Destroy the bosses.
EDIT: Adding on to the above: if Murasa is in the game as a May clone I would 't be surprised.
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FUCK YEAHHHH!!11!!1111!!!1!
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how is it that you're so completely and utterly wrong?
manly youki is best (http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1646/1a630145294c2882dac10f8.jpg)
simple: young or old, trap or manly, YOUKI IS BEST in all the styles. XD
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I just realized that Roukanken's new hilt ornament looks like Myon. Would be interesting if it was becoming a Half-Ghost sword to match its mistress.
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looks like the maritime theory just got
blown out of the water
Anyway, Youmu as a playable character. All of my happiness~
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What is this player data thingy option?
....MULTIPLAYER?!?
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What is this player data thingy option?
....MULTIPLAYER?!?
Uhh...spellcard history and all that, maybe?
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What is this player data thingy option?
....MULTIPLAYER?!?
Co-op maybe? Since this isn't a Phantasmagoria.
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What is this player data thingy option?
....MULTIPLAYER?!?
As awesome as that would be, I really doubt it. It probably keeps tracks of things like high scores, number of play-throughs, key-configs and the like.
But replay is listed as a separate option so maybe I'm wrong.
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looks like the maritime theory just got blown out of the water
Obligatory "YEEEEEAAAAH!"
Also, I wonder if we'll get any new news about it (maybe show a boss or so) before Reitaisai...
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Woah! this is definitely a nice surprise to see! Can't wait!
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Great to hear ZUN is making yet another game... since he would not just run out of ideas yes...?
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Oh my god must buy
HOW LONG UNTIL A TRIAL I ASK?
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As awesome as that would be, I really doubt it. It probably keeps tracks of things like high scores, number of play-throughs, key-configs and the like.
But replay is listed as a separate option so maybe I'm wrong.
In every game there's an option to see your spell card records and high scores. That's what Player Data is about.
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Oh my god must buy
HOW LONG UNTIL A TRIAL I ASK?
And now comes the two week wait :trollface:
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Oh my god must buy
HOW LONG UNTIL A TRIAL I ASK?
Reitaisai.
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How I feel about Touhou 13's release! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZhx_OvnC5c) :]
Now dance with me.
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I just realized that Roukanken's new hilt ornament looks like Myon. Would be interesting if it was becoming a Half-Ghost sword to match its mistress.
It's not new, just bigger or something.
Also, cookie, that probably means hitbox.
If there really are going to be hypers here, I wonder if this will be more like DDP and be faster-paced.
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I see green hair. Is that Sanae?!!!
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Im trying to restrain myself from dancing in a public place atm.
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Took you damn long enough, ZUN.
Oh well, new non-decimal title. :toot:
Edit: ...Oh yeah and - woo, spell practice! :]
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Finally a complete game, after the decimal series, improved ZUN art, and SPELL PRACTICE!!! :o
I'm gonna asplode... :getdown:
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HOLY MOTHER OF SHIT!
FINALLY!
Now...
Spirits, ghost and stuff: LET THEM MIMA FANS IN! (Not!)
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no one cares but
got a better reading on youmu's texts,
「冥界の土地も有限よ、余計な霊達は全て斬る！」 -> the underworld's land is limited, excessive spirits must be all cut down!
謎の亭神霊を放って置けないと調査に出かける -> cant leave the spirits alone so she goes out to investigate?
死欲の半霊 -> either death-seeking half ghost or half ghost wanted by death
Konpaku Youmu
猛攻の居合いタイプ -> heavy offence Iai type
ショット 高速時 剣気
溜撃ち 結跏趺斬 -> charge shot Lotus Stance Cut
＊低速移動中ショットは撃てません -> not sure what this means. looking at PoFV manual, most likely just saying cant shoot during focus/charge
スペルカード：空観剣「六根清浄斬」 -> spellcard/bomb: Voidness Sword 'Slash Clearing the Six Senses'
特殊能力：低速移動中のあたり判定が極端に小さい -> during focus mode the...hitbox? (あたり判定 = collision detection) is extremely small? :V
霊界での攻撃力が高い -> attack power is high in the spiritual world...hyper mode
交通安全祈願...drive slow homie
Mist Finer? Oh dear, I don't want Youmu to play like Guilty Gear's Johnny.... :ohdear:
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/189/youmujohnny.jpg)
youmu confirmed for pimp tier
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youmu confirmed for pimp tier
like her father.
now i want know if ZUN will do all new bosses, or will use a few old ones...
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4 playable characters with at least 2 shot types each + spell practice... And an extended length of time between it's development and the last th x.0
Sounds like zun's most ambitious project to date. I wonder if he's going to surprise us with more extra goodies.
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S1: Orin - trying to dig up corpses
S2: Kogasa - What better way to surprise the player?
S3: Mima
S4-S6 new bosses
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4 playable characters with at least 2 shot types each + spell practice... And an extended length of time between it's development and the last th x.0
Sounds like zun's most ambitious project to date. I wonder if he's going to surprise us with more extra goodies.
What gives you the idea that there are 2 shot types? The player select screen suggests only one.
S1: Orin - trying to dig up corpses
S2: Kogasa - What better way to surprise the player?
S3: Mima
S4-S6 new bosses
No way; ZUN has never recycled that many bosses before. At most it was just one stage (IN stage 4, MoF stage 4).
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Sounds like zun's most ambitious project to date. I wonder if he's going to surprise us with more extra goodies.
The meanest way he could surprise people would probably be by breaking shooter-conventions and doing 7 regular stages. Imagine the reactions from the people who barely make it through Stage 6. "Yeah, beat the ga--- WHAT DO YOU MEAN STAGE SEVEN??" :derp:
Not expecting anything like that to happen, but the mere thought was amusing to me :V
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The meanest way he could surprise people would probably be by breaking shooter-conventions and doing 7 regular stages. Imagine the reactions from the people who barely make it through Stage 6. "Yeah, beat the ga--- WHAT DO YOU MEAN STAGE SEVEN??" :derp:
Not expecting anything like that to happen, but the mere thought was amusing to me :V
That wouldn't be mean, that'd be awesome.
As for 2 shot types, I simply read someone say it was obvious there were 2 based on screenshots or something. I didn't see anybody dispute it so I said it =p.
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A lot of shmups have 7 stages, but it's not really as common as it used to be.
no one cares but
got a better reading on youmu's texts, [....]
So it looks like characters will have special abilities to differentiate them further. Hopefully they are a bit more interesting than the ones in SA.
I'm guessing the gameplay flow is going to revolve around picking up those green, blue, and red orbs (that possibly drop from the new enemy-type seen on the title screen) in order to fill the three meters just above the skull. Doing so will allow you to cross into the spiritual world and cash in on score, or possibly increase the value of blue point items, with a hyper-like shot.
I also noticed that each life and bomb is divided into 10 pieces.
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I also noticed that each life and bomb is divided into 10 pieces.
Oh. I was wondering why the first two screens had different numbers than there were lives/bombs below the meters :derp:
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Right middle screen shot, and others... Muenzuka and such? Outside humans from the Road of Reconsideration? maybe....
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The reason I thought there were 2 shots per character was because Marisa can be seen with UFOLasers in one screen and I think PCBMissiles in another screen.
But if she only gets PCBMissiles during a hyper then I'mma be disappoint.
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4 playable characters with at least 2 shot types each + spell practice... And an extended length of time between it's development and the last th x.0
Sounds like zun's most ambitious project to date. I wonder if he's going to surprise us with more extra goodies.
IN had about the same qualities + great characters and setting/atmosphere, which is why it was my favorite TH game. From the looks of it, TH13 looks very promising already.
And damn, ZUN's art improved a lot.
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As for 2 shot types, I simply read someone say it was obvious there were 2 based on screenshots or something. I didn't see anybody dispute it so I said it =p.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure those are Marisa's regular and hyper shots.
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So it looks like characters will have special abilities to differentiate them further. Hopefully they are a bit more interesting than the ones in SA.
Hopefully Marisa's won't be terrible, like back in IN....
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Well, why would Marisa change from lasers to missiles for a hyper? It would make more sense just to have bigger lasers, right? And for Sanae to only have Star Soldier shots would be depressing.
Also
(http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201102/28/42/e0088742_7253832.jpg)
Holy hell even UFOLasers don't pierce anymore.
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Though, there is nothing to indicate that we can't have two or more shot-types per character and a hyper variation of each, assuming that there are even hypers in the first place. It's possible that each shot-type has its own dedicated page in the Player Select menu.
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No way; ZUN has never recycled that many bosses before. At most it was just one stage (IN stage 4, MoF stage 4).
Nah, I wasn't being serious about that list. Actually hoping for new bosses. Though, having Orin as a S1 midboss just because she wants to collect corpses might be possible. A character from a previous game as midboss has been done, so why not?
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It's possible that each shot-type has its own dedicated page in the Player Select menu.
This I find hard to believe.
Also, non-piercing lasers? Disappoint. :(
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This I find hard to believe.
Could just be that at the time the shot was taken he hadn't put in the shot select.
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I'm fine with nonpiercing lasers. When has it ever been useful aside from UFOs, Nazrin, and Nue?
I'll be fine if there's a MoF-and-onward-Needle Reimu, too, as long as Master Spark is actually stronger than Needle Reimu's Bomb (looking at you UFO!)
Seriously, that's unfair that they made Master Spark into not-bomb type and just gave it piercing. Considering the other drawbacks of Master Spark in UFO it definitely should have been the strongest bomb.
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Fffff...... All the goods thing happen when i am in bed. I hate being in gmt timezone for this.
Oh well, touhou 13. So far for the people speculating 1 year about an underwater touhou. I wonder if screens really show what we are getting. I wonder.
Maybe this will be finally my next IN follow up version. I am really looking forward to reitaisai now.
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A new Touhou game? Alright!! Kickass ZUN. I was started to get worried since you hadn't announced anything yet but apparently you have now. Well... looking forward to what kind of stupid/funny/crazy ideas he's got for us this time. And certainly, i do have 10 desires.
- Consistently fun stages.
- Entertaining bosses.
- Challenging difficulty.
- Something that's not just a rehash of the UFO system.
- Interesting, cute and/or sexy new characters.
- Good shottypes.
- Good music.
- Hypers. :V
- Last Words now that spell practice is back.
- For Mima to stay away.
I'm really happy about spell practice being back. I can hardly express how many hours i've sunk into IN just grinding away at spells with more and more ridiculous restrictions. Things that would've taken eternities to accomplish without spell practice when you have to go through stages and i would've given up on. And the instant access to quick fun like say, "Let's time out Asteroid Belt for the lulz". and that sort.
Finally its nice to be able to work out a troublesome spell easily. Its hard to find a larger pain that having to go through boring shit that you can easily do just to have a single go and something difficult.
Now, a difficulty at the level of UFO would be welcome. I'm more ready for a tough Lunatic now and with spell practice i have the means to learn it since i have eternities worth of patience when i can just concentrate on what i want instead of wasting time with stage portions etc.
Oh and my idea was that ZUN's 13th game would have a horror theme. Friday the 13th and like that. Now with this cemetary we are seeing i might be right. :)
if Orin's actually in it, I hope she's even harder than in SA.
Yeah. The difficulty of the original Orin was limited to two attacks pretty much. Non-spells included. If she does indeed show up, let her be a little harder ZUN.
I notice there doesn't seem to be any bosses in those pics.
Well since Touhou would be shit without its bosses they are probably there. Not even ZUN is stupid enough to remove his bosses.
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Touhou 13 - Ten Desires
I like what I see. I'm so glad it's not another Phantasmagoria.
It seems Sanae is now part of the permanent protagonist crew. I'm glad Youmu's on board again. Hopefully each player will have multiple shot types.
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Orin seems like a possible early mid-boss; for some reason Kisume does too.
Considering Masoleums, zombie characters seem natural.
Also, unlucky 13 could make an appearance, though a Friday The 13th-Esqe Hockey-Masked Chainsaw-Wielding Lolita is far-fetched.
Cut: Oh and my idea was that ZUN's 13th game would have a horror theme. Friday the 13th and like that. Now with this cemetary we are seeing I might be right.
Exactly.
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Can someone tell me what this 'hyper' thing is i am reading all over this thread? I hope it is not like in those other shmups gaining temp boost of power. Imo would be so non- touhouish.
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- Consistently fun stages.
- Entertaining bosses.
- Challenging difficulty.
- Something that's not just a rehash of the UFO system.
- Interesting, cute and/or sexy new characters.
- Good shottypes.
- Good music.
- Hypers. :V
- Last Words now that spell practice is back.
- For Mima to stay away.
maximum brofist
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Can someone tell me what this 'hyper' thing is i am reading all over this thread? I hope it is not like in those other shmups gaining temp boost of power. Imo would be so non- touhouish.
(http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201102/28/42/e0088742_7262936.jpg)
Stuff like this makes us think of hypers. It doesn't seem to have decreased the bomb stock (unless ZUN gained an extra bomb by that point) so I'm assuming it'll be triggered infrequently like PCB Borders, except possibly with stored energy rather than instantly activating.
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Oh god this is the best thing that ever happened to me in the morning ever.
Also spell practice. How much did I miss that :getdown:
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Also, unlucky 13 could make an appearance, though a Friday The 13th-Esqe Hockey-Masked Chainsaw-Wielding Lolita is far-fetched.
That would be awesome.
maximum brofist
What? She's nothing to me. I'd rather have some new character or a character that i like return than someone who's only usage is being broken in MS.
Can someone tell me what this 'hyper' thing is i am reading all over this thread? I hope it is not like in those other shmups gaining temp boost of power. Imo would be so non- touhouish.
No. Its not just a power boost. Its a temporary boost of power. And scoring possibility. And difficulty. And a badass laser. It wouldn't be Touhou'ish but it would be drawing inspiration of a good idea from a Cave game to improve the usual formula. Its not unusual for ZUN to steal/let himself inspire of other shmups after all.
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Indeed, it seems like the blue flame next to the skull is a super meter, and that the skull turns solid once it is full. If you activate the hyper, the meter goes down, and the remaining time of the hyper is displayed on the screen.
Considering the flame is blue, it may be that it is now the blue counterpart to the red life and green bombs.
Or something.
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What? She's nothing to me. I'd rather have some new character or a character that i like return than someone who's only usage is being broken in MS.
It appears you misunderstood the meaning of brofist :V
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Hmmm, temporarily boost of power. Hmm hmm.
Also, I was wishing ZUN would stop using the annoying 4.00/4.00 etc power meter style and return to good old 128, but seeing the screenshots we have to accept for future games he will not do this anymore.
Which brings me to the following thing again, no more life/bomb fragments please
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Lol I hate timezones, always fnd these things out half a day later than I want it to be :V
Any ideas on other returning playables? Even though Sanae is playable, that must not mean Sakuya isn't :derp:
PARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARUPARU
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Screw you :yukkuri:
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Which brings me to the following thing again, no more life/bomb fragments please
They're there; you can clearly see them in the screenshots.
Any ideas on other returning playables? Even though Sanae is playable, that must not mean Sakuya isn't :derp:
ZUN said that there are 4 playable characters: Reimu, Marisa, Sanae, Youmu. That's it.
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no more life/bomb fragments please
Seconding this. Screw those things.
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Considering that you can clearly see fragmented hearts and bombs in the display...
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Just a few comments..
- 10D sounds good
- If Mima were to return, I'd bet she'd be the EX boss rather than a storyline boss.
- I'm actually hoping that Kasen Ibara makes an appearance
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Considering that you can clearly see fragmented hearts and bombs in the display...
*Sigh* Can't be helped then I guess.
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ZUN said that there are 4 playable characters: Reimu, Marisa, Sanae, Youmu. That's it.
Oh, nevermind then - too lazy to actually read through almost 13 pages :V
Also, a shame fragments return - I don't like them either
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It appears you misunderstood the meaning of brofist :V
Brofists kill people. Or at least they did in UFO. But what did you mean then? That you completely agree with me (for once)
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Brofists kill people. Or at least they did in UFO. But what did you mean then? That you completely agree with me (for once)
Contrary to touhou fan myopia, Unzan is, in fact, not the original source of "BROFIST!". BV
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Brofists kill people. Or at least they did in UFO. But what did you mean then? That you completely agree with me (for once)
It means he agrees with you.
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I see green hair. Is that Sanae?!!!
Sanae was already a playable character to begin with.
*Sigh* Can't be helped then I guess.
In fact, you need 10 fragments...
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In fact, you need 10 fragments...
This, however, suggests that the individual fragments will be easier to obtain. It may even be possible that these 'souls' can directly be picked up to this effect. In this case, the blue ones would fuel the blue ghost flame next to the skull, and thus your hyper.
...IS WHAT I ASSUME.
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Sanae was already a playable character to begin with.
In fact, you need 10 fragments...
My god, that's true BV
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6954/e00887427264511.jpg)
:dealwithit:
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Further I predict that one of Youmu's hypers will be akin to Ghostly Wheel of Pain, i.e. her ghost half will become a physical copy of her and attack for massive damage.
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Contrary to touhou fan myopia, Unzan is, in fact, not the original source of "BROFIST!". BV
I guessed as much but Touhou is still the only connection i have to brofists and as such i would think Formless wanted to round me up somewhere in a dark alley and beat me up...
It means he agrees with you.
Noted.
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I further predict that either Shikieiki or Komachi will appear, perhaps in the Ex-Stage.
Also, everytime you use a hyper, this starts playing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Twnmhe948A&t=0m36s).
Okay, maybe not that last one...
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Seriously people I know we all live in different time tables but it's freaking 7 AM here go to sleep :ohdear:
Anyways. I'm still amazed at Youmu + Spell practice. This is a pleasant Surprise Indeed.
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I should pay attention more to screenshots =.=
Fragment all over. ALL OVER FRAGMENTS. Oh well.
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well i for one am not too sure about the charge shots, cant say i really liked them in PoFV but thats just me
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those green things at the top of the screen in the sanae photo... pls dont tell me they are life fragments...
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What? She's nothing to me. I'd rather have some new character or a character that i like return than someone who's only usage is being broken in MS.
On that note, please remove Marisa from all games, because she was broken in one of them
Also, I don't like Reimu, so let's have someone new take her place, like Rin Satsuki. Someone with actual depth.
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obligatory 'HOLY CRAP TOUHOU THIRTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN'
- Last Words now that spell practice is back.
This so much. Last Words were awesome.
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Last words were pretty snazztacular, yeah.
Can't say much about the fragments, but. Eh. I'll deal.
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get hype
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And there goes my hope that I don't need to chase powerups to get bombs this time. :V
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Probably this was mentioned before (11+ pages) but is it me or is Youmu's expression in those screenshots pretty nice. She looks so happy =3
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!! MY DREAM HAS CAME TRUE!!!! I am definetly playing as youmu! awww........poor yuyuko. But let my dream come true! :D
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That... was a lot of thread to read.
Yay for more Touhou!
I bet you ZUN is going to troll us again, with someone who's using Mima's spells, but no Mima. (C'mon ZUN, at least a stage 2 boss, or something).
I'd love to see Last Word spells return. And huh, ZUN's art is getting better and better. Best news I've had all night.
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WTF, still going!?
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Am I the only one who doesn't like the idea of Last Words?
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By the way, I can't wait to get my hands on the trial.
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WTF, still going!?
So it looks. :V
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On that note, please remove Marisa from all games, because she was broken in one of them
Also, I don't like Reimu, so let's have someone new take her place, like Rin Satsuki. Someone with actual depth.
Oh please. Marisa has more uses than being glitchy in a single game. And if you don't like Reimu then too bad. I don't think ZUN's gonna replace his main character, let alone the most popular character, with anyone.
For all i care, MIma can be left forgotten forever together with Shinki and the rest of those PC-98 leftovers so that some new characters can be introduced.
I'd like to point out that i don't care a bit about which character is playable and who isn't. I want some good shottypes to pick from. I'll choose the best one for the objective i have and use her to accomplish my goals. That's the gist of that.
Am I the only one who doesn't like the idea of Last Words?
Yes. What could be wrong with more spellcards?
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Am I the only one who doesn't like the idea of Last Words?
Doubt it.
I'm hoping ZUN has a good Stage 4 gimmick planned (seeing Youki for Youmu would KICK ASS!!)
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I bet you ZUN is going to troll us again
I've added a few things that will make the game system a bit more complicated in order to keep the difficulty level down a bit.
He's already trolling us with fragments - easy my ass :yukkuri:
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This "ZUN is a troll" crap really needs to die.
Your favorite game creator doesn't work for you. He makes the games he wants to make. He doesn't promise anyone anything. Calling him a troll, in this context, implies that he's said he'll do one thing but did another, or that he's somehow betrothed to every whim and desire of the fanbase. Neither is the case, and I especially get tired of hearing this from Mima fans who, for some inexplicable reason, expect Mima to appear in every Touhou game, and when she doesn't, once again call ZUN a troll.
He's just one dude makin' video games. You're under no obligation to play them, just as he's under no obligation to make a game that perfectly suits your personal special wishlist.
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Another question I have is if the Power system will be like in MoF/SA or in UFO, i.e. each small piece fills 0.05 vs 0.01. I'm having a bit of trouble reading the Power level in that Sanae screenshot - is that a 7 I see in the hundredths place? Assuming there isn't a separate auto-collect mechanic like the UFOs were, I hope the number of Power/Point items doesn't reach UFO Stage 5 levels or something.
Hypers would be interesting. I've yet to play any Cave games that use them, but having temporary power boosts alongside temporary difficulty increases would be a cool dynamic for a Touhou game. Just imagine what the bosses' patterns would turn into. :3 Actually, I wonder if some enemies (bosses included) might also have a bit more health than usual to compensate for/encourage use of hypers...
On that note, please remove Marisa from all games, because she was broken in one of them
Also, I don't like Reimu, so let's have someone new take her place, like Rin Satsuki. Someone with actual depth.
What the hell kind of reasoning is that... The Vsync patch includes a fix for that bug. You should be using the Vsync patch to remove the input lag anyway, so go ahead and kill two birds with one stone with it. And like others mentioned, Reimu will never be replaced.
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This "ZUN is a troll" crap really needs to die.
Your favorite game creator doesn't work for you. He makes the games he wants to make. He doesn't promise anyone anything. Calling him a troll, in this context, implies that he's said he'll do one thing but did another, or that he's somehow betrothed to every whim and desire of the fanbase. Neither is the case, and I especially get tired of hearing this from Mima fans who, for some inexplicable reason, expect Mima to appear in every Touhou game, and when she doesn't, once again call ZUN a troll.
He's just one dude makin' video games. You're under no obligation to play them, just as he's under no obligation to make a game that perfectly suits your personal special wishlist.
Well, it's not like I cared about how he makes them - I just found this ironic comment about the difficulty highly amusing. :V
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youmu confirmed for pimp tier
This made my morning. Now we really need to have Murasa in as May!
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I don't like seeing the returns of Last Words or Life/Spellcard/Power fragments. On the other hand I would like to see IN-style Last Spells.
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Brilliant.
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Again?! OK that's enough of that.
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Jesus christ people typing up a post and submitting it DOES NOT TAKE THAT LONG
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This made my morning. Now we really need to have Minamitsu in as May!
Fixed that for you.
Jesus christ people typing up a post and submitting it DOES NOT TAKE THAT LONG
People want to express repeating how fast this topic moves. After a while, we get the joke though indeed.
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Probably this was mentioned before (11+ pages) but is it me or is Youmu's expression in those screenshots pretty nice. She looks so happy =3
The art is looking very nice.
This makes me so excited~
Also Last Word is fuckawesome.
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I really don't see how life fragments make any difference in how you get your lives when compared to point item or score based extends (except in UFO where the whole system is different, but you can still get tons of lives just as easily).
And since there wasn't a clear explanation yet: Hyper is traditionally an activatable power-up mode that you can use to score at the spots of your choice. Often there's an effect like making enemies fire more and faster during hypers, so that it wouldn't make the game easier.
Also hey: "Most Online Today: 240. Most Online Ever: 240 (Today at 03:53:59)"
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I especially get tired of hearing this from Mima fans who, for some inexplicable reason, expect Mima to appear in every Touhou game
Mima was involved in four of the five original Touhou games. She was important enough to be recurring, being absent ONLY for Lotus Land Story, and yet Yuka and Alice are the ones resurrected for the Windows series? There is a completely unexplained history to Mima, going from a schoolgirl with a bloody knife to a master sorcerer to maybe an evil spirit to claiming she's not a ghost to being a ghost anyway. We even get a return to Makai, the same Makai from Mystic Square, in SA, which would've been the perfect opportunity to bring up a few story elements involving Mima, Shinki, and even Alice by association.
I don't know about most of the Mima idiots, but I, for one, want to see her acknowledged beyond the cover of an Akyu's Untouched Score. She was far more important than Yuka, and without her, there'd be no Marisa. Mention her in passing. Let her show up out of nowhere. It doesn't matter. She's a fan favorite, even in Japan; be a cool guy, for once.
No, instead, we get goddamn Sanae, the Luigi of Touhou. Do we really need two playable mikos again? I'm glad that Youmu's in the game, because why not; she deserved a little something better than her IN treatment, but damn, we're not asking for something unreasonable, like playable Byakuren, Rin Satsuki, or some Seihou character. We want someone who was important to the history of Touhou to continue to be involved. Reimu's always around. Marisa's always around. Alice's always sometimes around. Aya and Sanae will always probably be around. Hows about you give a nudge to lady who loves her Fantasia cosplay?
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ZUN likes Reimu, Marisa, Aya and Sanae better, simple as that.
Though I do like your description of Sanae :V
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Mima was involved in four of the five original Touhou games. She was important enough to be recurring, being absent ONLY for Lotus Land Story, and yet Yuka and Alice are the ones resurrected for the Windows series? There is a completely unexplained history to Mima, going from a schoolgirl with a bloody knife to a master sorcerer to maybe an evil spirit to claiming she's not a ghost to being a ghost anyway. We even get a return to Makai, the same Makai from Mystic Square, in SA, which would've been the perfect opportunity to bring up a few story elements involving Mima, Shinki, and even Alice by association.
I don't know about most of the Mima idiots, but I, for one, want to see her acknowledged beyond the cover of an Akyu's Untouched Score. She was far more important than Yuka, and without her, there'd be no Marisa. Mention her in passing. Let her show up out of nowhere. It doesn't matter. She's a fan favorite, even in Japan; be a cool guy, for once.
No, instead, we get goddamn Sanae, the Luigi of Touhou. Do we really need two playable mikos again? I'm glad that Youmu's in the game, because why not; she deserved a little something better than her IN treatment, but damn, we're not asking for something unreasonable, like playable Byakuren, Rin Satsuki, or some Seihou character. We want someone who was important to the history of Touhou to continue to be involved. Reimu's always around. Marisa's always around. Alice's always sometimes around. Aya and Sanae will always probably be around. Hows about you give a nudge to lady who loves her Fantasia cosplay?
See, I get that reasoning to an extent, but it still doesn't explicitly underline what makes Mima so important that ZUN has to bring her back. And just so I make myself clear here, it's not people wanting Mima back that's a problem for me. I'd enjoy seeing her back, too. It's just this sense of entitlement; this expression as if ZUN somehow owes Mima fans her return that gets under my skin. Dude goes on Ustream with a few buds, wind of this makes it into the WTC, and what happens? A bunch of people leap into the video chat shrieking MIMA MIMA MIMA. It's embarrassing. That's what I mean about people crying that ZUN is a troll when they don't see their precious waifu. Your logic for why it might be a good idea for her to come back makes sense; fans accusing the game creator of purposefully setting them up for disappointment is just crazy.
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I'm hoping ZUN has a good Stage 4 gimmick planned (seeing Youki for Youmu would KICK ASS!!)
This.
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woohoo!!
The excitement is killing me D:
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mint
u mad?
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Mima was involved in four of the five original Touhou games. She was important enough to be recurring, being absent ONLY for Lotus Land Story, and yet Yuka and Alice are the ones resurrected for the Windows series? There is a completely unexplained history to Mima, going from a schoolgirl with a bloody knife to a master sorcerer to maybe an evil spirit to claiming she's not a ghost to being a ghost anyway. We even get a return to Makai, the same Makai from Mystic Square, in SA, which would've been the perfect opportunity to bring up a few story elements involving Mima, Shinki, and even Alice by association.
I don't know about most of the Mima idiots, but I, for one, want to see her acknowledged beyond the cover of an Akyu's Untouched Score. She was far more important than Yuka, and without her, there'd be no Marisa. Mention her in passing. Let her show up out of nowhere. It doesn't matter. She's a fan favorite, even in Japan; be a cool guy, for once.
No, instead, we get goddamn Sanae, the Luigi of Touhou. Do we really need two playable mikos again? I'm glad that Youmu's in the game, because why not; she deserved a little something better than her IN treatment, but damn, we're not asking for something unreasonable, like playable Byakuren, Rin Satsuki, or some Seihou character. We want someone who was important to the history of Touhou to continue to be involved. Reimu's always around. Marisa's always around. Alice's always sometimes around. Aya and Sanae will always probably be around. Hows about you give a nudge to lady who loves her Fantasia cosplay?
Again with what Kami said, it's ZUN's game. He stated before that he only makes the game that makes HIM find it reasonable, and doesn't really give much of a damn of what we like in a game, if he's satisfied with it, then it's good in his books. Whatever reason that Mima isn't all that great for him is his own reason and Mima fans should just stop complaining about the fact that she needs to be in more games than she already has. Hell, being in 5 games is more than most other Touhou characters out there.
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It still begs the question that if he did use Mima so much, he obviously carries some kind of attachment towards her. Why she was just haphazardly dropped is something that we don't understand and it's frustrating. Doesn't mean that I don't agree with Ammy, but I definitely agree with Letty as well.
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Why half the series was just haphazardly dropped is something that we don't understand and it's frustrating.
I don't claim to understand ZUN. I just know he makes flying girls with pretty bullet patterns and interesting music.
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Re: Mima
Zun said himself that he doesn't care if people play his games or not. I'd say that pleasing his fanbase is on the least important things to do on his list.
Also, 4.0 power is kind of pointless if it's not used for bombs unlike SA or MoF, for example. You might as well return to the 128 point system. Then again, it shouldn't be so different.
I'll just sit here and wait warmly for the game to be released before saying anything else.
Last word is awesome :3
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I just imagine ZUN rocking himself to sleep every night with a bottle of his favorite flavors repeating," PC98 as a lie. It never existed. It was a lie..."
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Re: Mima
Zun said himself that he doesn't care if people play his games or not. I'd say that pleasing his fanbase is on the least important things to do on his list.
gdi it has nothing to do with pleasing the fanbase the point is that HE LIKES MIMA ENOUGH TO HAVE IN HER IN FIVE GAMES
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I just imagine ZUN rocking himself to sleep every night with a bottle of his favorite flavors repeating," PC98 as a lie. It never existed. It was a lie..."
Hilarious mental image.
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gdi it has nothing to do with pleasing the fanbase the point is that HE LIKES MIMA ENOUGH TO HAVE IN HER IN FIVE GAMES
Liked. Past tense.
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We even get a return to Makai, the same Makai from Mystic Square, in SA
Uh, don't you mean UFO? ???
Also
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2r6kzyw.jpg)
URL hax are awesome BV
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One thing I have to say about Youmu.
What the hell happened to her hair?
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ZUN likes Mima enough to make the plot the same as SoEW.
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By the way, if Last Words are back, would that mean the final boss will have one too? I heard a theory that a Last Word is pretty much a last resort spell; so dangerous that it can kill the user. It would make sense seeing that Yuyuko (a ghost who is already dead) and Kaguya (an immortal who can't die even when killed) were the only ones to use them (to my knowledge anyway).
Going by that, does this mean the final boss will be a ghost herself?
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It would make sense seeing that Yuyuko (a ghost who is already dead) <snip> only ones to use them (to my knowledge anyway).
Wait, Yuyu had a Last Spell? Speaking of Last Spells, how would we 'unlock' them? I mean, IN had Time Orbs as the requirement. Think TD will have something to do with those souls?
One thing I have to say about Youmu.
What the hell happened to her hair?
Something amazing.
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a Last Word is pretty much a last resort spell; so dangerous that it can kill the user
No.
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One thing I have to say about Youmu.
What the hell happened to her hair?
Youmu has discovered 80's rock bands.
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No.
I guess you missed the part where I called the claim a theory?
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Going by that, does this mean the final boss will be a ghost herself?
Seeing the graveyards and tombstones and all, this might be a sensical conclusion.
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By the way, if Last Words are back, would that mean the final boss will have one too? I heard a theory that a Last Word is pretty much a last resort spell; so dangerous that it can kill the user.
Last words are not final spells.
It would make sense seeing that Yuyuko (a ghost who is already dead)
Yuyuko can kill anybody she wants without a spell card. (except immortals, duh)
and Kaguya (an immortal who can't die even when killed) were the only ones to use them (to my knowledge anyway).
You should play IN to learn.
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WHAT THE HELL 14 PAGES? I could swear i checked this forum (and the entire internet) for any signs of Touhou 13 Notdeifiedsubmarinepalace yesterday... it was probably the day before that, then. BRB READING
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.... You do know every single character in IN had a Last Word.. Remember, Last Spell /=/ Last Word.
Also, one of the screenshots looks really like a dimensional traveling thing... Can anyone make the images bigger?
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.... You do know every single character in IN had a Last Word.. Remember, Last Spell /=/ Last Word.
Also, one of the screenshots looks really like a dimensional traveling thing... Can anyone make the images bigger?
We can make them bigger but it won't make them any clearer. Unless you got one of those CSI computers. :derp:
Zun seems to release small SSs on purpose just to taunt.
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.... You do know every single character in IN had a Last Word.. Remember, Last Spell /=/ Last Word.
Also, one of the screenshots looks really like a dimensional traveling thing... Can anyone make the images bigger?
At the risk of being redundant...
"That's all the resolution we have, sir. Making the picture bigger doesn't make it any clearer."
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Knew it.
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We can make them bigger but it won't make them any clearer. Unless you got one of those CSI computers. :derp:
Zun seems to release small SSs on purpose just to taunt.
Making hype. I'm still theorizing that it's Kasen(That pink character?), or a new Touhou?
I can't think of anyone that is wearing all pink clothes like that.
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Making hype. I'm still theorizing that it's Kasen(That pink character?), or a new Touhou?
I can't think of anyone that is wearing all pink clothes like that.
I'd love to see Kasen in this game :*
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I wonder if I'm the only one who adores the idea of bomb and life fragments, and hopes that every game will have those.
And yeah, Youmu looks very cute in that pic, showing how much ZUN's art really have progressed.
I also assume Kasen will be in this game.
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I find it slightly amusing that TH13 was announced the day after our TH12.8 thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,6868.0.html) got locked :V
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.... You do know every single character in IN had a Last Word.. Remember, Last Spell /=/ Last Word.
Also, one of the screenshots looks really like a dimensional traveling thing... Can anyone make the images bigger?
There is a larger shot (albeit Photoshopped for humour and quite blurry) below:
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Considering that he has to have worked on the game for a long time, the popularity poll cannot possibly have affected the playable character choice here at all. :derp:
>Youmu ranks 13th in last popularity poll
>Touhou 13
So it's just a coincidence, then?
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>Youmu ranks 13th in last popularity poll
>Touhou 13
So it's just a coincidence, then?
Yes.
Mima was involved in four of the five original Touhou games.
No, instead, we get goddamn Sanae, the Luigi of Touhou
I would have no problem with Mima (or any other PC98 character) coming back, but considering that Sanae was in MoF, SA, UFO, Hisoutensoku and DS, your reasoning here amused me.
I don't particularly care for Sanae myself, but this really falls down to "I like character X and I don'T like character B, so why is B in the game instead of X?" :derp:
So, let's see how many replies were made in the time it took me to write this post...
ZERO?!
People, you let me down.
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14 pages... there are 14 pages here.... And I love every bit of it. Hooray for the ghost's return!!
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Making hype. I'm still theorizing that it's Kasen(That pink character?), or a new Touhou?
I can't think of anyone that is wearing all pink clothes like that.
Sorry to break your train of thought, but I'm pretty sure from looking at its silhouette that it's just Marisa...
Oh, and if not... I could see Yuyuko wearing pink clothes.
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It's Marisa all right.
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Jesus christ people typing up a post and submitting it DOES NOT TAKE THAT LONG
There is even an option for disabling that annoying warning.
and Kaguya (an immortal who can't die even when killed)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/Barrakketh/Macros/PEOPLE_DIE_IF_THEY_ARE_KILLED.jpg)
I'm sorry.
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There is even an option for disabling that annoying warning.
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/Barrakketh/Macros/PEOPLE_DIE_IF_THEY_ARE_KILLED.jpg)
I'm sorry.
Curse you, I was littlerally about to post this, but you got there first :V
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So, so so so so.... Will that drunk bastard bring in NEW characters? :( Cause there's enough of'em already... I'd prefer him exploiting old ones.
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What the hell are you even saying, the more the merrier :V
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Imma just make some quick comments on my thoughts on this.
-Desires (teehee) for this game.
All I really want are at least seven new characters, an interesting storyline, entertaining dialogue, and music that will make me have to change my pants several times over. ZUN can pretty much do whatever with the gameplay, IMO. just as long as he doesn't do UFOs again fuck I hated those
-Fragments
Am I the only person who liked the fragments and 4.00 power system? I know fragments made SA a hell of a lot easier, and having the 4.00 system made it easier for me to figure out how far I had to go until I had full power, rather than the quite arbitrary 128 or whatever system.
-Last Words
While I never actually played any of the Last Word spellcards, I'm always for seeing new patterns. ZUN has a talent for making patterns that are both aesthetically pleasing and challenging to play. More spellcards are never a bad thing.
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What the hell are you even saying, the more the merrier :V
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What the hell are you even saying, the more the merrier :V
I say someone dies in Touhou 13 and hence spiritual shit
All returned characters are dead characters
Mima's face appears on a tombstone somewhere
Perhaps intro for said deadness
All music is really sad
No desires for you
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What the hell are you even saying, the more the merrier :V
This. Part of the appeal for Touhou is, at least for me, the new characters that new games tend to bring :3
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I now want to create a sexy ad for Touhou 13, with the main focus being:
(http://tsundereworks.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/desiretouhou.png)
Sanae on one end, Reimu on the other. I realized that Touhou needs a logo :V
Also, what is this "fragment" thing you speak of?
E: This may as well be~
Zun's sexiest game yet, seeing as how everyone has a desire to have it...
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This. Part of the appeal for Touhou is, at least for me, the new characters that new games tend to bring :3
This, though I was still highly disappointed by UFO. :wat:
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Man, whats with all the UFO disapoint. Admittedly, none of the characters alone are strong (except byakuren i guess, and her themes rock), but together they're pretty great.
Shou is a bit dull mind, but fits the position shes supposed to.
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This, though I was still highly disappointed by UFO. :wat:
I will fight you.
Also, what is this "fragment" thing you speak of?
Getting part lives, instead of just being awarded full ones. "Life fragments" would be the unfilled stars you get for beating attacks in SA or filling UFOs in UFO, and collecting so many of them gives you an additional life.
Also gotta make this a quality post
MIMA MIMA MIMA MIMAMIAIMAMIIMAAAMMAA BRING BACK <CHARACTER X THAT I LIKE> ZUN IS TROLLING :trollface:
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So, so so so so.... Will that drunk bastard bring in NEW characters? :( Cause there's enough of'em already... I'd prefer him exploiting old ones.
Name one touhou shmup/game where he did not introduce new girls. And no, 9.5 does not count. And obviously 12.3 doesn't either. Neither does 12.8 :V
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What the hell are you even saying, the more the merrier :V
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY! THE MORE THE MERRIER!
Also, I just assumed Last Words were big dramatic spells. I mean during Kaguya's Last Word, the interface changed as well as the theme. I mean there's even a "Last Word theme".
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YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY! ALL TOASTERS...(ry
I'll shutup and leave you all to your serious conversations now.
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Oh cool new Touhou game.
What the hell are you even saying, the more the merrier :V
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY! THE MORE TH--
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ah hell
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I'd love to see Kasen in this game :*
This. This right here.
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Since the title of the game refers to the ten spiritual realms of Buddhism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_realms) I'd bet big money on the notion that the bosses will be a demon or evil soul, an hungry ghost, a beast youkai, a shura, a human and a deity in that order. For extra and phantasm the bosses might be a Savakabuddha and a Pratyekabuddha respectively (basically lesser Celestials). I doubt you'd get to fight a Bodhisattva or a true Buddha, since they are pure, enlightened beings. The Savaka and Pratyeka versions still have some form of ego, hungering wisdom and insight.
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Spoiler - Kasen dies
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What the hell are you even saying, the more the merrier :V
The more the Merry-er BV
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Also, I just assumed Last Words were big dramatic spells. I mean during Kaguya's Last Word, the interface changed as well as the theme. I mean there's even a "Last Word theme".
That is why we keep saying, Last words != Final spells (Last spells w/e you want to name them). Too bad ZUN doesn't elaborate on this in his afterword. Basically, you can see them as fireworks being showed off. Last words have no link with the main game or main spell cards during the game. They are singular challenges. Hence Touhou is all about spell cards.
About Kaguya's interface changing, girl needs her own bg like Eirin instead of the one used at final stage.
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Gah forget it. I don't get it. =_=
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About Kaguya's interface changing, girl needs her own bg like Eirin instead of the one used at final stage.
Kaguya and Eirin have the exact same theme for their grand finale. :wat:
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Gah forget it. I don't get it. =_=
Look it is not hard to understand. You got Spell cards, Final spells and Last Words.
- Final spells are the ones you get in IN when you have enough time orbs collected. For example Marisa's Final Spark in Stage 4b. If you don't have enough time orbs, they won't use this card thus you will never see it. Simple.
- However, Marisa has also a Last Word, which is 'Blazing Star'. This basically extra unlock-able challenge you have to overcome. Other last words are Tewi's Ancient Duper etc.
I think what you are confused with is the counter-bombing using the players. As Final Spark is also a counter-bomb attack for the girls if you use them as a player. And in this case, it would be indeed what you seem to call "dramatic last resort spell". Because if you counterbomb as Alice, Marisa will user her Final spell. If you counterbomb as Marisa, Alice will use her Final spell. Same goes also for the other teamed girls.
Hope that is clear =|
Kaguya and Eirin have the exact same theme for their grand finale. :wat:
In their Last Words, they had different bg. Could be wrong. Hard to see from the screens on wiki.
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STOP HELEPOLIS
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In their Last Words, they had different bg. Could be wrong. Hard to see from the screens on wiki.
Idiot me cannot tell bg from bgm. :colonveeplusalpha:
In that case, though, both Eirin and Kaguya had the same bg for their last spell and last word they had for their other spells.
With Eirin you just happen to have a different bg for every single nonspell. :derp:
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Those are considered Last Words? Not really as memorable as the ones the final bosses use. So I don't really regard them as Last Words, just Final Spellcards.
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No, those are Last Spells. The Last Word of Kaguya is the Rainbow Sea thing.
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Ten Desires... sounds fappable
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Excuse me while I go over there and drown in my own euphoria.
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LOL, lol, I just came up with a theory.
Why ZUN said "cut the porn"?
Cause he KNEW his touhou 13 title is soooo gonig to be exploited or he intends to put in porn himself D:
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LOL, lol, I just came up with a theory.
Why ZUN said "cut the porn"?
Cause he KNEW his touhou 13 title is soooo gonig to be exploited or he intends to put in porn himself D:
Told you it was sexy~
What do the fans desire?
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Inb4 Mima
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Inb4 Mima
I like how people always tend to post "inb4 x" when X already has been there for a long time. :derp:
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Re: ZUN trolling - Double Spoi
er 9-7 means there is a precedent for it. :V
Also, this is the best excuse to go back to my original namesake. I'll see if I can make an avatar for it...
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THEY BROUGHT BACK SPELL PRACTICE HELLZ YEH!!!
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Welcome to MotK! ^_^
:derp:
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Late to the party.
There are two major trains of thought in my head right now:
1. "Oh god, oh god, new Touhou game! I wonder who I will fangirl over in this new game! This is gonna be awesome!!"
2. "FFFFFFFF PLEASE DO NOT RUIN EVERYTHING I HAVE PLANNED FOR MY SERIAL FICTION LIKE UFO DID FFFFFFFFF"
Writing serials in a universe where new information is added often enough to derail the best-laid plans makes me sad :(
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In those situations, isn't it best to put a disclaimer that it was written before certain characters and information came to light and go with what you have rather than try and cover up all the plot holes the information caused?
On topic, I'm still ecstatic over Youmu. This game already looks like it's going to be awesome. But I wonder what the theme of the music will be this time? Horror? If so, I can't wait to hear ZUN's take on more somber songs in-game.
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Konpaku Youmu
PHFUBLEHPHTH.
My literal reaction. I wish I had been drinking tea at that moment, so I could simply just post "Teaspit.jpg" instead.
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In those situations, isn't it best to put a disclaimer that it was written before certain characters and information came to light and go with what you have rather than try and cover up all the plot holes the information caused?
I'm not the sort who likes to blatantly contradict canon, though. Treat everything in canon as if it's a metaphor that's passed through several Orwellian editors before reaching us, who see it in an entirely separate cultural background from its intention? Sure. Write an event that actively flies in the face of canon information? God, never. A disclaimer is an idea I hadn't had, though. It'll take some thinking.
Oh god oh god I hope none of ZUN's planned Last Words will contradict my own :<
Youmu, eh? This is pretty sweet. I don't so much care about her as I do about her master, but I do like Youmu.
One thing that reading this thread has taught me is that is indeed a fanbase that non-ironically wishes for Mima's return, and this shocks me. :S
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Re: ZUN trolling - Double Spoi
er 9-7 means there is a precedent for it. :V
Explain how Double Spoiler is trolling. Please. I would love to hear what evidence you have that ZUN created a game specifically to incite rage and/or disappointment in the fanbase, who clearly know better than him what Touhou should be like.
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Suggesting a link to the touhou wiki in the OP.
Also,
Teaspit.jpg
http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/MasterBigode/?action=view¤t=1298919613363.jpg
Explain how Double Spoiler is trolling. Please. I would love to hear what evidence you have that ZUN created a game specifically to incite rage and/or disappointment in the fanbase, who clearly know better than him what Touhou should be like.
He's referring to stage 9-7 of Double Spoiler I think.
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One thing that reading this thread has taught me is that is indeed a fanbase that non-ironically wishes for Mima's return, and this shocks me. :S
Well she leaves so many unanswered questions. Though I'd rather have her be a quick boss with a bit of info then a returning main.
And of course this will doom both my large works canon wise, but I knew it was going to happen. With luck the place will be detached enough from Gensoukyo to handwave it in New World. I knew ESR was doomed from the start, since I doubt Marisa will be a youkai and have a girlfriend in this game.
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Explain how Double Spoiler is trolling. Please. I would love to hear what evidence you have that ZUN created a game specifically to incite rage and/or disappointment in the fanbase, who clearly know better than him what Touhou should be like.
I believe he's referring to scene 9-7, which depicts Satori reading the player's mind and recalling the nearly universally traumatizing scene 9-6 from StB, not the whole game.
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He's referring to stage 9-7 of Double Spoiler I think.
I believe he's referring to scene 9-7, which depicts Satori reading the player's mind and recalling the nearly universally traumatizing scene 9-6 from StB, not the whole game.
So making the game difficult or challenging is trolling now? I know you're just explaining the logic, but I think it's still off-base.
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I've personally looked at using canon as a baseline for my writing but developing the characters into their own personalities over time. There's certainly enough leeway to do such a thing that staying absolutely true to canon would start to feel rigid over time.
On the other hand, this throws a wrench in my own ideas, as I have to account for TD once I get that far (note: I'm nowhere near that far). I'm just a little excited, though, as I've never played beyond IN... I might just make TD my first post-IN Touhou that I ever play...
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So, I'm a bit confused about the Mima status now. I remember something about ZUN confirming in an interview or chat that Mima would not be in TH13 or was this just false information?
Edit: This was like 6 months ago or something like that.
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Mima will not appear in the game, but all the faeries will look exactly like Mima.
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I don't think ZUN has ever officially said a word regarding Mima, but I did hear that in a Live stream of him talking with some other people he showed a vague feeling of disgust when the comments got flooded with "MIMA-SAMAAAAAAA" and such.
Also Ammy, it's not really a stretch to say that Satori recalling that particular scene was to poke fun at the players who played StB all the way through. Why else would he choose that specific scene out of all the others in the game?
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New Touhou?
(ohmygod)1000
I don't really care about Youmu, though. But she has nice hair this time, so yeah.
SPELLCARD PRATICE FUCK YEAH
*celebrationdance*
*ahem*
Anyway, I never really got what the big deal was about Mima, but then again I've only played Lotus Land Story. (and tried Mystic Square, but Yuki and Mai are ridiculously annoying so :fail:).
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Also Ammy, it's not really a stretch to say that Satori recalling that particular scene was to poke fun at the players who played StB all the way through. Why else would he choose that specific scene out of all the others in the game?
I dunno, to make the game fun or challenging?
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Also Ammy, it's not really a stretch to say that Satori recalling that particular scene was to poke fun at the players who played StB all the way through. Why else would he choose that specific scene out of all the others in the game?
Because continuity is fun, and he likes playing around with Touhou's history courtesy of Satori (see: every Satori spellcard she uses in SA)? I don't see why it has to be "trolling", though. Just acknowledging what he did before.
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Re: ZUN trolling - Double Spoi
er 9-7 means there is a precedent for it. :V
No. DS Scene 9-7 actually makes perfect sense considering who Satori is and how she fights. It does mess with the 4th wall a bit, but it's not trolling as far as I'm concerned.
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Ammy - You're taking me way too seriously (see the :V ).
Satori's 9-7 was a direct reference to Shoot the Bullet, so yes, ZUN is acknowledging previous work. There's nothing wrong with that at all.
The fact that the card that was recalled just happens to be what's considered one of, if not THE, hardest cards in Shoot the Bullet - except remade into a hilarious and nearly unsurvivable bullet spam - is pretty obviously poking fun at the fanbase. But again, there's nothing WRONG with that at all.
I didn't mean for a derail of this magnitude. We can move on now.
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If DS 9-7 is trolling, then Kogasa being the UFO Ex-midboss is trolling as well. :derp:
Note that I predicted both StB 9-6 returning and Kogasa being UFO's Ex-midboss.
Also StB 9-6 is one of my fav cards from that game. It is the one spell card I have the most tries on, even!
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"Trolling" implies that ZUN sat down at his computer, knowing just what would make you rage, and deliberately designed the game, or part of the game, with that goal in mind. Which is insane. Colonvee or no colonvee.
I didn't mean for a derail of this magnitude. We can move on now.
Let's.
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One thing that reading this thread has taught me is that is indeed a fanbase that non-ironically wishes for Mima's return, and this shocks me. :S
I really don't see how this is surprising at all, considering that for the past, I dunno, 2 or 3 games, people have been wanting Mima back - non-ironically. I mean, it's not like it's ever going to happen, but people can dream, right? Besides, I secretly non-ironically want Meemer back as well - if only because PC-98 needs moar references and I'm just a biased fuck twat.
Anyway, I never really got what the big deal was about Mima, but then again I've only played Lotus Land Story. (and tried Mystic Square, but Yuki and Mai are ridiculously annoying so :fail:).
you can't really complain about Mystic Square until you've hit Stage 5 and eventually Yumeko
aaaaaa HATE THAT STAGE
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you can't really complain about Mystic Square until you've hit Stage 5 and eventually Yumeko
aaaaaa HATE THAT STAGE
The stage isn't that bad but YUMEKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Yumeko is one of the most fun things in touhou. Okay, she slaughters me, but I wouldn't want to get slaughtered any other way~.
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fun read.
suppose a quick summary wouldnt hurt, what we know so far (semi-facts):
*four playable characters: Reimu, Marisa, Sanae and Youmu
*spell practice is back, comes with Last Worlds probably
*10 fragments for lives and bombs...ten desires
*charge shot is back
*characters have special abilities...the last main game with char special skills was IN iirc?
*UFO-like spirits and the skull...hyper mode and stuff
*insert stuff i forgot*
now the fun speculations:
*Mima will return, cuz spirits! fans' fascination with the black history of touhou
*Orin will return, cuz spirits
*Shinki will return! cuz 神綺 -> 神霊廟 and Byakuren was foreshadowing the return of Shinki
*Sakuya is the last boss...if Ten Desires has anything to do with the 7 sins, she will be Maid of Envy
:colonveeplusalpha:
*seeing how Reimu and co. have been to Makai (魔界) and Netherworld (冥界), the setting this time will be in the spirit world (霊界)
*no new characters will be introduced cuz 風神録＋地霊殿=神霊廟
. consequently the final bossess will be Kanako and Okuu
*UFO crew might show up at some point, specifically Syou
*Shinreibyou will be a faction, just like Myourenji
*Kasen Ibara will debut in this game, and she will crush you with one hand
*Stage 4 bosses will be one of the playable characters, just like IN
*Ten desires has something to do with the spiritual realms of some Buddhism?
*stuff i missed
also
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1820/f8cd27c54b4db7fa8326ac5.jpg)
:smug:
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I really don't see how this is surprising at all, considering that for the past, I dunno, 2 or 3 games, people have been wanting Mima back - non-ironically. I mean, it's not like it's ever going to happen, but people can dream, right? Besides, I secretly non-ironically want Meemer back as well - if only because PC-98 needs moar references and I'm just a biased fuck twat.
Yes, but-- somehow, it was so dismissible as "ahahaha, people are just joking around again", and its true magnitude never struck me then. But now it has, and I'm absolutely stunned to see that Mima has a fanbase that really, really, REALLY wants her back. Why doesn't Yumemi have it, though? :<
Anyway, on-topic again:
Fingers crossed for Kasen. Definitely. Seeing as how she can punch out spirits with that delicious bandaged hand and all.
Also, the warping on Reimu's foot as she crosses to the red zone gives me Eversion vibes.
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Why doesn't Yumemi have it, though? :<
Because she didn't get featured in four games, nor was she playable outside a Phantasmagoria.
I'd still love to see Yumemi come back...
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Also, the warping on Reimu's foot as she crosses to the red zone gives me Eversion vibes.
It is most likely going to be quite similar.
The "hyper" is actually crossing into the realm of spirits.
Considering that those orb-spirit-enemy-thingies are only on the screenshot where the background is swirly and the timer runs, i.e. in the world of spirits, I assume that the "hyper" actually summons additional enemies, namely them little spirit guys. This obviously raises difficulty and may prove leathal, but they also drop good stuff when you kill them or at the very least give massive score.
[/hypothesises]
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So many people want kasen, I want hatate dammit. Though I rekon well either get both or neither.
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It is most likely going to be quite similar.
The "hyper" is actually crossing into the realm of spirits.
Considering that those orb-spirit-enemy-thingies are only on the screenshot where the background is swirly and the timer runs, i.e. in the world of spirits, I assume that the "hyper" actually summons additional enemies, namely them little spirit guys. This obviously raises difficulty and may prove leathal, but they also drop good stuff when you kill them or at the very least give massive score.
[/hypothesises]
This makes a great deal of sense, and sounds like more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
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*no new characters will be introduced
i will flip my shit and set japan on fire
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i will flip my shit and set japan on fire
This I gotta see.
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Fan Mindset: If Yuuka came back, Mima can come back *insert MIMA-SAMAAAAAAAAAAA here*
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Fan Mindset: If Yuuka came back, Mima can come back *insert MIMA-SAMAAAAAAAAAAA here*
Yes, we covered that, what, three pages ago?
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Yes, we covered that, what, three pages ago?
:wat: Um..thanks?
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you can't really complain about Mystic Square until you've hit Stage 5 and eventually Yumeko
aaaaaa HATE THAT STAGE
Actually, I made it up to Shinki's Byakuren ripoff card (:V) before using up all my continues, but Yuki and Mai's fuckery was what got rid of the most of them. Sure Yumeko was hard, but in a better sort of way. Yuki and Mai are more like oh god what did i do to deserve this crap go away aaaaaaaaaaaaah. For me at least.
*charge shot is back
shitshitshitshit I can't use this in FW without a controller and I really don't wanna have to do that anymore dammit.
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i will flip my shit and set japan on fire
Honestly, I'd like to see Kannushi keep things interesting, no matter how he does it. Even if it involves existing characters.
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*characters have special abilities...the last main game with char special skills was IN iirc?
SA says hi.
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PHFUBLEHPHTH.
My literal reaction. I wish I had been drinking tea at that moment, so I could simply just post "Teaspit.jpg" instead.
Who said you had to be drinking right then?
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/Barrakketh/Animated/godot-spit.gif)
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PHFUBLEHPHTH.
My literal reaction. I wish I had been drinking tea at that moment, so I could simply just post "Teaspit.jpg" instead.
I was chewing gum.
I had to scrape it off my window.
Yuck.
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*charge shot is back
oh, what does this mean? the only thing i can think of is Aya's camera and i don't think that's right.
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oh, what does this mean? the only thing i can think of is Aya's camera and i don't think that's right.
It means you have to tap Z to fire, instead of holding it down to constantly fire.
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It means you have to tap Z to fire, instead of holding it down to constantly fire.
Oh FFFFFFFFFFFFF---
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It means you have to tap Z to fire, instead of holding it down to constantly fire.
To be fair, GFW has this, but you can hold down C to have steady fire.
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Holding down C still feels weird to me. I'm used to using that finger for bombs, and tapping at Z doesn't really help with the whole twitch reaction bombing thing...
Oh well, something else to get used to. At least it's not a Phantasmagoria :3
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actually im under the impression that its akin to PoFV except the spirit absorb field (but maybe not), especially cuz of what zun had on youmu's select screen -> 低速移動中ショットは撃てません -> cant fire shots during slow/focus/charge? or it could be like fairy wars
SA says hi.
ah there you go. thought i missed something
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actually im under the impression that its akin to PoFV except the spirit absorb field (but maybe not), especially cuz of what zun had on youmu's select screen -> 低速移動中ショットは撃てません -> cant fire shots during slow/focus/charge? or it could be like fairy wars
Pray it's like GFW, but like Serena said, I'll get used to it.
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Actually, I made it up to Shinki's Byakuren ripoff card (:V) before using up all my continues, but Yuki and Mai's fuckery was what got rid of the most of them. Sure Yumeko was hard, but in a better sort of way. Yuki and Mai are more like oh god what did i do to deserve this crap go away aaaaaaaaaaaaah. For me at least.
The two are surprisingly easy once you learn them. Both at once is mostly streaming attacks. Go for Mai if at all possible, as she's pretty simple. Yuki is actually somewhat threatening, if only for her fireballs, but none of them have a patch on the damn sword-throwing wench.
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I've played MS lotsa times, and I think Yumeko is fun but hard. Now, with Yuki and Mai, I'm always like "Oh, I'm doing fairely well by n-- *pichuun* ...I hate you, Mai"
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The two are surprisingly easy once you learn them. Both at once is mostly streaming attacks. Go for Mai if at all possible, as she's pretty simple. Yuki is actually somewhat threatening, if only for her fireballs, but none of them have a patch on the damn sword-throwing wench.
I'll probably get on it eventually, I do intend to beat at least one of the PC98 games to some kind of acceptable standard (freaking Marisa in LLS :colonveeplusalpha:). It's not like I'm playing these games because they're easy anyway, heh. But I've got Koishi to get through with first and that's a whole other story...
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How did I miss mention of the charge shot returning? I have a particular setup I use for GFW that I've grown comfortable with, so assuming ZUN does include C as rapid fire, this isn't much of a problem at all. The real question is, just what will we be charging in TD? Charging to activate hypers maybe?
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Charge shot? Grosssss. One of the reasons I was looking forward to a vanilla touhou was to avoid dealing with that
I guess I can manage :<
Also am I the only one thrown off slightly by "touhou thirteen ten desires"? :V
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Also am I the only one thrown off slightly by "touhou thirteen ten desires"? :V
Well, I wouldn't say thrown slightly off, not sure what you mean by that. It doesn't make me think anything negative per say, but it does sound un-touhou like to me somehow, not sure how.
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Well, I wouldn't say thrown slightly off, not sure what you mean by that. It doesn't make me think anything negative per say, but it does sound un-touhou like to me somehow, not sure how.
I was referring to how there are two numbers (thirteen ten) right next to each other. It just sounds funny to me, I guess.
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Well, personally I never refer to (eg. SA) as Touhou 11 Subterranean Animism; generally it's just Chireiden or Subterranean Animism for me, so I don't have a problem with it.
I never really liked the "byou" sound (Kaenbyou, Shinreibyou...), though, but that's completely different (and me just being weird about stuff).
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I find it slightly amusing that TH13 was announced the day after our TH12.8 thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,6868.0.html) got locked :V
I find it slightly amusing that TH13 was announced a few days after the japanese TH poll was closed :p
*Sakuya is the last boss...if Ten Desires has anything to do with the 7 sins, she will be Maid of Envy
Envy automatically makes me think of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo2weAb2Ud0&t=2m35s) envy :D
what I'd like from the gameplay is that maybe this game would have (additionally, optionally) elements from the past games' gameplays
- PoFV's chaining and/or bullet cancelling -- PoFV's chaining is forgiving, plus bulllet cancelling till BONUS! is rewarding, exciting I dare say :D
- IN's human/youkai "sides" (maybe they are assigned to the shot types in this game, or not), which allows one to decide between shooting a lot or grazing a lot. Even IN's grazing felt more rewarding to me, because (like in Shuusou Gyoku) you can feel the boost to your score (through the time orbs) better than, say, in EoSD
- MoF's chaining but please make it more forgiving/flexible than in MoF (one death in MoF takes 1/3 of your current faith counter, and the faith counter drops quickly if you can't chain. PoFV's chaining was forgiving and flexible enough with spirits which could be "activated" when/where you wanted to, which also stimulated foresight and rewarded players with better bullet cancels)
- please make players be unable to graze while they're under invincibility (a detail I liked in Suwapyon), and please refrain from having players be confined to risky spaces (such as pointblanking/near pointblanking/enemy hugging) for graze milking. It's okay-ish if players can graze near bosses, just not (imho) if you have to memorize, say, EoSD's stage 5 fairies (for point-blank invincibility grazing), or be able to abuse Parsee's rings of bullets, or be able to stick besides Sakuya during Eternal Meek. (personally I don't like grazing because I don't like to have to memorize stages, preferring to dynamically remembering them and what actions I can take as the enemies come at the screen, instead of feeling punished by having the game become harder because I didn't knew ho w to trivialize stage sections, as if I was asked to remember stages. Which is distracting to me, to try to keep stage-specific information in mind while playing normally. I'm better at remembering rules, not routes)
- additionally, why not make players be able to follow bullets and still be rewarded? (if SA wanted to follow, to an extent, Shikigami no Shiro's gameplay?)
- also, one of my complains about the games is how misleading the bullet hitboxes can be. The current graze sound helps, but not as much if you're grazing more than one bullet. At times, even the sound isn't much helpful if you need to correctly estimate if you'll be able to follow a path which has large bullets near it.
- will players be able to use bomb fragments if they don't have full bombs? /battlegaregga :D
- unlockable characters please :D
- if Mima would ever appear, just having her in an alternative stage (if the game would ever have alternative routes chosen by the player) as an optional, additional boss (for those who want to fight her specifically, so that she doesn't take much of the focus from the story). Either Batrider's or Phantasm Romance
's alternate bosses possibility would do, and both of them were fun in their own games :D
- agree on more PC-98 reference, though I'm pleased with the shmup references so far through the series :D
- Marisa's penetrating piercing laser is good in EoSD, but I'm fine with DDP'ish laser
- I'm fine (no, greatly pleased) if there's charged shots in a main TH game (charged shots worked well in PoFV, GFW, and StB/DS)
- also, Reimu is imba in PoFV (against human opponents), not just Marisa in MoF :D (PoFV's Memory/Mevious lol -- though I don't know if Reimu is actually banned in japanese matches)
WARNING
decide for yourself :p
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Envy automatically makes me think of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo2weAb2Ud0&t=2m35s) envy :D
Clearly, miracle★cookie meant this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGB4VDQI6XM) Envy. :*
Anyway, I think that the whole "charge shots" deal is pretty amazing. Hooorayyyy for more gameplay mechanics!
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Okay, now that I've had some time to think about it more, I've got a bit of speculation fuel to throw out.
You know how ZUN's basically tied in the stories of his games since MoF with one another? The Moriyas come to Gensokyo, the Moriyas give Utsuho the power of the Yatagarasu, Utsuho's excess power blows the lid off whatever ground was holding in the Palanquin Ship. The fighting games are tied in as well, DS stands on its own for the most part, and so forth.
So how is ZUN going to tie divine spirits into the plot of UFO? Or, a second question: how do you expect that UFO will have kickstarted 10D?
Also, just for fun, remember that someone from the previous game showed up in the following game. SA carried over Sanae, Suwako, and Nitori in separate ways; UFO carried Sanae over from SA, a bit more directly. So, does Youmu's inclusion (but not, importantly, Sanae's expulsion) indicate that he's going all the way back to PCB for his story? If Sanae had been left out of the playables, that might have indicated that he's setting his story since MoF to the side, but the simple fact that he's reached all the way back to Youmu AND kept Sanae might mean that 10D will unite the two halves of the Windows storylines. Which is... actually really REALLY disastrous for anyone who's writing a serial, but from a game/story perspective, actually really awesome.
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Which is... actually really REALLY disastrous for anyone who's writing a serial, but from a game/story perspective, actually really awesome.
inb4UDragesagain BV
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Also, just for fun, remember that someone from the previous game showed up in the following game. SA carried over Sanae, Suwako, and Nitori in separate ways; UFO carried Sanae over from SA, a bit more directly. So, does Youmu's inclusion (but not, importantly, Sanae's expulsion) indicate that he's going all the way back to PCB for his story? If Sanae had been left out of the playables, that might have indicated that he's setting his story since MoF to the side, but the simple fact that he's reached all the way back to Youmu AND kept Sanae might mean that 10D will unite the two halves of the Windows storylines. Which is... actually really REALLY disastrous for anyone who's writing a serial, but from a game/story perspective, actually really awesome.
Youmu has her motivations (lol UFO's motivation-based shot types) to investigate, plus she's human enough :p (human perspective/view, human role in the spellcard battle system, etc.)
Why would Youmu and Sanae's participation mean ultimate weapon of destruction golden disaster to a writer? How does this joss what they've written? (unless CtC or TPSS is involved :p)
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Okay, now that I've had some time to think about it more, I've got a bit of speculation fuel to throw out.
You know how ZUN's basically tied in the stories of his games since MoF with one another? The Moriyas come to Gensokyo, the Moriyas give Utsuho the power of the Yatagarasu, Utsuho's excess power blows the lid off whatever ground was holding in the Palanquin Ship. The fighting games are tied in as well, DS stands on its own for the most part, and so forth.
So how is ZUN going to tie divine spirits into the plot of UFO? Or, a second question: how do you expect that UFO will have kickstarted 10D?
Also, just for fun, remember that someone from the previous game showed up in the following game. SA carried over Sanae, Suwako, and Nitori in separate ways; UFO carried Sanae over from SA, a bit more directly. So, does Youmu's inclusion (but not, importantly, Sanae's expulsion) indicate that he's going all the way back to PCB for his story? If Sanae had been left out of the playables, that might have indicated that he's setting his story since MoF to the side, but the simple fact that he's reached all the way back to Youmu AND kept Sanae might mean that 10D will unite the two halves of the Windows storylines. Which is... actually really REALLY disastrous for anyone who's writing a serial, but from a game/story perspective, actually really awesome.
So much potential there. Speculations such as these add to my anticipation for a new game.
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So Reimu's sleeves are attached.
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So Reimu's sleeves are attached.
Thread is cheaper than razors
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So Reimu's sleeves are attached.
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dont fink so
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i think naut
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o u
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What if 10D isn't that connected to UFO at all?
Iirc, EoSD, PCB, and IN are largely considered a trilogy. If the same is to be said for MoF, SA, and UFO, then 10D could be a part of something else.
More random speculation: We're going to see another shinigami and yama!
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More random speculation: We're going to see another shinigami and yama!
I like where this is going. <3
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Spell practice? God Yes, that's what made IN so fun for me, hopefully this means unlockable content such as last words.
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As for Youmu's story in particular.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Netherworld
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Article_and_Interview:_Youmu
Youmu is essentially a sheep herder for all the ghosts that wander outside of the Netherworld. Even though these are godly spirits (神霊) and not ghosts (幽霊), she's kind of made it a secondary duty to keep all rampant "ghosts" from causing too much mischief.
Also, http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Spirit
This would account for Sanae's side of the story. Through faith you can control the power of the Shinrei connected to your shrine. Even though Yasaka and Moriya aren't dead, it's likely the main motivator.
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"Gardener" :rolleyes:
Never seen Youmu cut so much as a single blade of grass.
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"Gardener" :rolleyes:
Never seen Youmu cut so much as a single blade of grass.
That's because she does it every time in the blink of an eye. :U
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That's because she does it every time in the blink of an eye. :U
A Trillion Blades of grass In One Slash.
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Youmu has her motivations (lol UFO's motivation-based shot types) to investigate, plus she's human enough :p (human perspective/view, human role in the spellcard battle system, etc.)
You misunderstand. The characters have their motivations to investigate; it's why they're playable characters, story-wise. I mean, what will be the link connecting the story of 10D to UFO? To PCB? It's all speculation, but hey, it's fun!
Why would Youmu and Sanae's participation mean ultimate weapon of destruction golden disaster to a writer? How does this joss what they've written? (unless CtC or TPSS is involved :p)
It all really depends. Nobody quite expected UFO's multitude of PC-98 references (the return to Makai, most of all), so fanfic writers whose setting is in Makai, or a major plot point was that Makai was no longer reachable, or whatever, now had a bunch of canon information on their hands that made their interpretations suddenly invalid. It all really depends on what information is released. But if this story arc spans back to PCB or something like that, that's got the potential to screw up a lot of writers' storylines.
As for the PMiSS article on spirits, that's interesting stuff. More speculation fuel to be added to the fire. Namely: if Youmu is kind of a sheep herder for ghosts and spirits of different varieties, it does make me dare to hope for Kasen's appearance.
Oddly, my main reason for believing that there's a chance is not because Kasen is a recent character, or because she can destroy (evil) spirits with her bandaged arm, but for the simple fact that she doesn't have a theme as of yet. There isn't much of a precedent for me to think that she might get a theme (only Renko and Maribel of the Touhou characters not in an actual game are close to being exceptions), but I just hope that the idea of her is colorful enough in ZUN's mind to have justified him giving her a theme-- and this, in turn, makes me think of that wonderful line from ZUN's comments on Koishi's theme: "I think a garden with roses strewn all about where thorns can prick you is really fitting for a battle."
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Looking at the available screenshots, Reimu is looking extremely different again compared to UFO portraits. I am really curious how Marisa and Sanae look. As Marisa is like the most fashionable girl in the series.
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I just read Gensokyo.orgs announcement about the game and it has a rough translation of Youmu's shottype. It says something about not being able to fire during focused movement and in its place getting a smaller hitbox.
I seriously don't think this sound very good. The notion of having a hitbox that changes size is scary enough. Not being able to fire while shooting is even worse. I sincerely hope this is something Youmu-only.
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Sounds awesome, but not being able to fire in focused mode as youmu sounds horrible. D:
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Well, it might be worth pointing out that the translation is very rough and some of the kanji was tough to make out because of the poor resolution of the images. It might just be a mistranslation.
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I just read Gensokyo.orgs announcement about the game and it has a rough translation of Youmu's shottype. It says something about not being able to fire during focused movement and in its place getting a smaller hitbox.
I seriously don't think this sound very good. The notion of having a hitbox that changes size is scary enough. Not being able to fire while shooting is even worse. I sincerely hope this is something Youmu-only.
ah but thats what we were going on about earlier. my impression from reading the select screen is that, focus in th13 will be like that in PoFV cuz how it says charge shot and all. that said, i doubt its exclusive for youmu. the hitbox being very small during focus is...its probably something like this -> by focusing, youmu become extremely hard to hit, but she has to uh un-focus to do some real damage... iunno, just wait for the trial~
Well, it might be worth pointing out that the translation is very rough and some of the kanji was tough to make out because of the poor resolution of the images. It might just be a mistranslation.
about that, it is indeed pretty hard to make it out. i had a go at it but couldnt get every fine detail out BUT i got the more complete version off the japanese, if they got their own language wrong then i asdf...i dont think the translation is off, some japanese were pretty worked up about the focus deal too,
低速移動中ショットは撃てません
低速移動中ショットは撃てません
低速移動中ショットは撃てません
（ ゜д゜）・・・
oh yeh,
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6241/shinreibyoustage1boss.png)
stage 1 boss
sorry guys
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(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6241/shinreibyoustage1boss.png)
That's the best thing I've seen today. (No joke.)
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Looking at the available screenshots, Reimu is looking extremely different again compared to UFO portraits. I am really curious how Marisa and Sanae look. As Marisa is like the most fashionable girl in the series.
Since Marisa was giving an apron with an "M" on it and some crazy-looking wand for UFO, I predict that this time around, she'll be in a full-length sequin evening gown, with a traffic cone on her head.
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dont fink so
That screen shot is blurry as hell and could very well be a fold like it has been in the past.
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I was excited at first but the more I dig up about the game the less eager I am for it. When I found out ZUN was making the game easier, I was disappointed (I don't want to go back to Touhou 10) but thought I could live with it. Then I found out that you had to tap to shoot, so the gameplay will likely be similar to that of the phantasmagorias and GFW. I don't HATE the control scheme, but it's just something I don't prefer for a Touhou game that isn't in decimals.
And now I find out that there's no shooting while focused ... maybe.
I guess I'll wait for the trial to come out before making any definite judgements about the game. I'm still pretty hyped for a new Touhou, but it wasn't the same hype as when UFO was announced.
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charge shots
How did I miss that?
I can't play properly with them chraged shots, don't have enough dexterity/coordination in my fingers, and most importantly, that means I cannot play the game properly on my laptop at all.
NOOOOOOoooooooooooo...
Maybe I really should think about buying a controller for PofV/GFW/10D, then...
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I was excited at first but the more I dig up about the game the less eager I am for it. When I found out ZUN was making the game easier, I was disappointed
This just in, not all fans are great at the games.
Having an easier game gives some of us less talented people a foothold for achievements to inspire us. Frankly, I'm happy he decided to release at least one that was a bit easier, considering how the last few have been stupidly hard (UFO, SA, to an extent MoF [Kanako's final spellcard bars any attempts for me at an Easy clear]).
So thank you, ZUN :D
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I'll laugh if it ends up that ZUN made it easier because it was Mushihimesama Ultra difficult and that 10D is harder than UFO.
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I wouldn't mind if the game was harder, truthfully. I could always use the challenge. I've been playing through the older games are practice for the more recent ones, so...
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Since Marisa was giving an apron with an "M" on it and some crazy-looking wand for UFO, I predict that this time around, she'll be in a full-length sequin evening gown, with a traffic cone on her head.
The wand in UFO was strange to me as well. But looking at the screens (We keep looking at the same screens all the time :V)
Reimu's Gohei is badass big. It must be able to smack 4 Youkai girls in one blow. I hope Marisa will have a fancy broom this time.
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Really, in theory, easymode should stay at the same difficulty throughout the series, normal mode possibly as well.
However, hard or at least lunatic mode should see a slow rise in difficulty as the series progresses. That way, the people who are not that good at shmups still get the same enjoyment out of it while the people who can do the lunatic 1ccs get greater challenges with each game.
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ummm........I have a question, what is reimu saying in the dialogue? I don't read japanese. :)
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ah but thats what we were going on about earlier. my impression from reading the select screen is that, focus in th13 will be like that in PoFV cuz how it says charge shot and all. that said, i doubt its exclusive for youmu. the hitbox being very small during focus is...its probably something like this -> by focusing, youmu become extremely hard to hit, but she has to uh un-focus to do some real damage... iunno, just wait for the trial~
about that, it is indeed pretty hard to make it out. i had a go at it but couldnt get every fine detail out BUT i got the more complete version off the japanese, if they got their own language wrong then i asdf...i dont think the translation is off, some japanese were pretty worked up about the focus deal too,
Yes and that's what is worrying me. I don't mind when a scoring system is complex and different but i strongly dislike when shmups make survival gameplay any more complex than holding down a shot key and dodging. Having a dedicated key is of course fine. I just hope it won't be too different. But as you say, we can't know how it will play before the actual game is out so we'll just have to see.
I'm a bit worried but i'm still eager to play this new installment.
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Knowing ZUN theres probably a system-based reason for tapping the key like PoFV (you dont wanna shoot all the time). Still its quite the change and I hope its not too big...
Youmu's system is just interesting so far. Tapped keys dont tap with me ATM tho. Hopefully that'll change, or the system to change b4 release :/
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<ScrappingSakana> YOUMU PLAYABLE?
<ScrappingSakana> HELL YEAH
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Knowing the fans, the game is going to be finished (by them) before ZUN does so... at least the overlay of how it going to look when released.
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I bet Sakuya & Youmu were having a duel for the 4th playable slot. With Youmu being victorious.
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I'm wondering who'll win the race of the first piece of artwork on a new character. An American for once or a Japanese?
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probably some 2ch goer :V
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I'm wondering who'll win the race of the first piece of artwork on a new character. An American for once or a Japanese?
Slaves will
I mean come on do you not know how awesome slave's drawings are?
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Okay, time for a little prediction time with next to no founding whatsoever, maybe? Really, there isn't much to go on anyways...
First, this game is obviously about spirits, ghosts, the netherworld, Youmu and similars, sooooo... I'm awaiting the glorious return of the Saigyou Ayakashi. Maybe someone else is trying to bring forth the soul the sleeps beneath... or is trying to bring the tree to full bloom again? There ARE cherry petals floating around everywhere in those screenshots.
Second, tying possibly in on the first but also inspired by someone somewhere mentioning the word "Necromancer" in this thread. Maybe someone from the outside world finally managed to followed her friend into Gensokyo and started up an incident to lure her out?
Third, monkeys. Just because I feel them somewhat fitting to the theme of this game and they are an old part of Japanese mythology that's getting lost (which is usually ZUNs basic root for things that appear inside the border). I literally see before me three monkeys, one blind, one deaf, one silent jumping from the branches of the fully bloomed Saigyou Ayakashi.
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First, this game is obviously about spirits, ghosts, the netherworld, Youmu and similars, sooooo... I'm awaiting the glorious return of the Saigyou Ayakashi. Maybe someone else is trying to bring forth the soul the sleeps beneath... or is trying to bring the tree to full bloom again? There ARE cherry petals floating around everywhere in those screenshots.
Oh yes, please. Since Youmu appears it might make sense if that had something to do with PCB, but to be honest, I highly doubt there'll be a return of our favourite youkai tree :V
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Third, monkeys. Just because I feel them somewhat fitting to the theme of this game and they are an old part of Japanese mythology that's getting lost (which is usually ZUNs basic root for things that appear inside the border). I literally see before me three monkeys, one blind, one deaf, one silent jumping from the branches of the fully bloomed Saigyou Ayakashi.
Hmmm, did Sun Wukong have a particular thing about fighting evil spirits? If no, then the sooner-or-later inevitable Sun Wukong related loli is unlikely to be in this game. :derp:
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Slaves will
I mean come on do you not know how awesome slave's drawings are?
Pixiv
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Hmmm, did Sun Wukong have a particular thing about fighting evil spirits? If no, then the sooner-or-later inevitable Sun Wukong related loli is unlikely to be in this game. :derp:
I really hope not. Connecting the world of Touhou with Dragonball Z will be devastating.
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I really hope not. Connecting the world of Touhou with Dragonball Z will be devastating.
It's not Dragon Ball Z, but... (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5274042/1/bTouhou_b_bRider_b_bReimu_b)
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Hmmm, did Sun Wukong have a particular thing about fighting evil spirits? If no, then the sooner-or-later inevitable Sun Wukong related loli is unlikely to be in this game. :derp:
I'm reminded of SonSon from Marvel x Capcom 2. Also, we might end up getting a shaman character as well.
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So I wonder what kinds of crack pairings will be created :derp:
edit: No Sakuya? Ffffff.... well Youmu is okay as well :V
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a Youmu is fine, too. :V
Preferably, I'd like to see Sakua replace Sanae.
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Looking at the screenshots again, do you know what I'd really like to see? A reference to Sayo-chan from KiKi KaiKai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DYhKni7SE). I mean, it's a Taito game, and ZUN worked for Taito for a while, didn't he? :>
(Yes, I know that seeing yet another shrine maiden would be pretty much overkill at this point, and that Reimu's close enough to that anyway, but still!)
EDIT: Someone mentioned wanting to see a tanuki youkai, right? In a sequel to KiKi KaiKai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocky_%26_Rocky), (released as Pocky and Rocky outside of Japan, (though it wasn't developed by Taito, I suppose) Sayo-chan has a partner named Manuke (aka Rocky)-- a tanuki, etc.) So.... maybe we might see a tanuki youkai? :derp:
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Preferably, I'd like to see Sakuya replace Sanae.
Or maybe add Sakuya as a 5th playable character. :V
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A tanuki youkai? I like that idea. :derp:
Though I don't think it's so likely to happen... since it's apparently in a mausoleum of sorts. Would be more predictable if it was forest themed :V
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If it where to be a tanuki youkai I think it could be the 4th stage boss and change shape depending on who you are playing as.
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Of course there'll be more characters. Unless it's a gaiden game, like Shoot the Bullet, then there'll be new people.
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Looking at the screenshots again, do you know what I'd really like to see? A reference to Sayo-chan from KiKi KaiKai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DYhKni7SE). I mean, it's a Taito game, and ZUN worked for Taito for a while, didn't he? :>
(Yes, I know that seeing yet another shrine maiden would be pretty much overkill at this point, and that Reimu's close enough to that anyway, but still!)
EDIT: Someone mentioned wanting to see a tanuki youkai, right? In a sequel to KiKi KaiKai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocky_%26_Rocky), (released as Pocky and Rocky outside of Japan, (though it wasn't developed by Taito, I suppose) Sayo-chan has a partner named Manuke (aka Rocky)-- a tanuki, etc.) So.... maybe we might see a tanuki youkai? :derp:
Suddenly I got this comic in my head: finnish 4koma (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/703963/4koma-blonde_hair-comic-crossover-finnish-japanese) (danbooru warning)
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The wand in UFO was strange to me as well. But looking at the screens (We keep looking at the same screens all the time :V)
Reimu's Gohei is badass big. It must be able to smack 4 Youkai girls in one blow. I hope Marisa will have a fancy broom this time.
Now you've got me thinking of that fight scene from matrix reloaded.
inb4reimu running in a cirle kicking 10 youkai in the faces while held up by her gohei.
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I think now Reimu's gohei is normal sized, I always thought it was too short before.
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Looking at the screenshots again, do you know what I'd really like to see? A reference to Sayo-chan from KiKi KaiKai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DYhKni7SE). I mean, it's a Taito game, and ZUN worked for Taito for a while, didn't he? :>
(Yes, I know that seeing yet another shrine maiden would be pretty much overkill at this point, and that Reimu's close enough to that anyway, but still!)
EDIT: Someone mentioned wanting to see a tanuki youkai, right? In a sequel to KiKi KaiKai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocky_%26_Rocky), (released as Pocky and Rocky outside of Japan, (though it wasn't developed by Taito, I suppose) Sayo-chan has a partner named Manuke (aka Rocky)-- a tanuki, etc.) So.... maybe we might see a tanuki youkai? :derp:
He worked there? He makes better games solo then them all together :derp: at least in my arrogant opinion, judging just by watching
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ummm........I have a question, what is reimu saying in the dialogue? I don't read japanese. :)
essentally "where the fuck are all these shinrei coming from!??!??!???"
not exactly but it's pretty much just as much of empty dialogue
If it where to be a tanuki youkai I think it could be the 4th stage boss and change shape depending on who you are playing as.
It would be perfectly possible for Nameless Tanuki (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Monster_Tanuki) to do something such as that, that problem is it's likely really goddamn weak given the story.
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Has the page been translated yet? Don't have the time (read: I'm too lazy) to read this entire thread.
also, HOLY SHIET YOUMU!!!! /pickfirst
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Yeah it was, a few times actually.
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Has the page been translated yet? Don't have the time (read: I'm too lazy) to read this entire thread.
ZUN's blog post ?
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,5980.msg566040.html#msg566040
http://www.gensokyo.org/archives/1713
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Preferably, I'd like to see Sakua just be forgotten entirely
BV
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spoilers
you shoot shit in this game
GLOWING SHIT
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I-Impossible...that's too unpredictable!
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spoilers
you shoot shit in this game
GLOWING SHIT
Actually, one of your ten desires is to solve your problems through conversation and diplomacy, with the other 9 centering around the salvation of Youkaind.
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spoilers
you shoot shit in this game
GLOWING SHIT
Too late there, bra...
UFO. Stage 4 and 6. Nue. BV
edit: fixed a number~
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I am sorry. I feel I must repost GreenVirus' creation, as it just plain cracks me up every time.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2hrogg8.png)
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It does, doesn't it :V
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I am sorry. I feel I must repost GreenVirus' creation, as it just plain cracks me up every time.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2hrogg8.png)
Kinzoapproved.jpg
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EDIT: Someone mentioned wanting to see a tanuki youkai, right? In a sequel to KiKi KaiKai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocky_%26_Rocky), (released as Pocky and Rocky outside of Japan, (though it wasn't developed by Taito, I suppose) Sayo-chan has a partner named Manuke (aka Rocky)-- a tanuki, etc.) So.... maybe we might see a tanuki youkai? :derp:
It wasn't really a sequel as much as it was a side story. We were supposed to get a sequel, but Square-Enix screwed us over, and we got Heavenly Guardian out of the deal.
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Anyone remember the theory about Touhou 13 having a water theme because MOF, SA, and UFO have earth, fire, and wind themes respectively? Guess that theory no longer holds true, unless this game actually has something to do with water.
BTW, why do some people actually think that there won't be new characters? Is it because that it's been a while since we had new characters that the current cast look complete?
Also, I had a dream last night about this game being released, so its contents are all known. Is it all right if I talk about it here? Or should I take it to the Touhou Dreams Thread instead?
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Anyone remember the theory of Touhou 13 having a water theme because MOF, SA, and UFO have earth, fire, and wind themes respectively? Guess that theory no longer holds true, unless this game actually has something to do with water.
BTW, why do some people actually think that there won't be new characters? Is it because that it's been a while since we had new characters that the current cast look complete?
Also, I had a dream last night about this game being released, so its contents are all known. Is it all right if I talk about it here? Or should I take it to the Touhou Dreams Thread instead?
First off, iirc there was a fan project titled Touhou 13: Defiled Aquatic something or other. Dunno what happened to it, But compare it to the (currently being made) mother 4.
I'm pretty sure we all know they're will be new characters, every touhou game has introduced at least... 5 different characters, no?
Go ahead and discuss it here, It's relevant to the thread, And I'm going to ask you to tell me my god damned future if even a single detail is right.
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I believe it was Defiled Submarine Palace, but it was just a joke video, right?
However there was a fangame called Marine Benefit which was pretty well done.
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All 20 pages.
Why.
That took me an hour and a half thanks to someannoyingskypefriends. Why again.
Okay so.. What was I.. Uhm.
..... K I'm just going to "My dream-character will be in this" and leave.
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However there was a fangame called Marine Benefit which was pretty completed.
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Thanks for the fast reply, Kips McKipzerson!
Please bear in my mind that this dream is pretty bizarre, so you shouldn't take it seriously at all. Also, I have a tendency of not remembering very well what my dreams are, so things may not be accurate.
So the game is released, and there's a English strategy guide for it as well.
The first boss (I think it's the first boss) is a girl with long blue hair dressed in a white (can't remember what kind of clothing), and she sits in a bucket like Kisume. She also came out from a well if I remember correctly... According to the guide, she's based off Sadako Yamamura from The Ring, I think. The guide only mentioned The Ring, not the name, but I know for sure that it was referring to Sadako.
Another boss is a girl with whitish-blue hair and somewhat pale skin. She wears a white sleeveless shirt that shows her midriff and and a white skirt if I remember correctly, and she bears a bit of resemblance to Shinki. It turns out that she is a robot that is supposed to be modeled after her.
Okay, this is where the dream becomes stranger... Sara and Yumeko are back! However, the former isn't really Sara herself. The guide says that's an alternate dimension of her, whatever that means... She has a different name, but I can't remember what it is, and also, she's the person who built that Shinki-lookalike robot. Yumeko, strangely enough, is called Yumarth (at least that's what I remember), and I remember that there was no mention at all if she is the same Yumeko or not.
And now, this is probably going to drive some people crazy... I remember laughing in an overdramatic manner when I saw this. So... Mima is back... and as the extra stage's boss! However, she's been drastically redesigned. She now has red hair and her clothes consists of mostly yellow and red if I remember correctly... I can't remember the details, not even what kind of hat she's wearing, but it might be the same one, just with a different color... However, the guide says that she is the same person, and it also says that she is looking for inner peace, I think...
Okay, strange dream... While I am in no way a fan of horror movies, stories, and such (though I do play Castlevania), having a character based of Sadako would actually be... interesting...
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Don't know if anyone here has mentioned this already, but I found an interesting tidbit in PMiSS while I was doing some research for a story.
Enlightened ones can go to Heaven, but I hear that Heaven is already full, and enlightenment is restricted now.
If we're dealing with divine spirits, is it possible that Heaven's basically run out of room and started having to kick people out? It fits with the 10-spiritual-realms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms) idea, so are we going to see Reimu punching more gods in the face?
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However there was a fangame called Marine Benefit which was pretty completed.
Curvy lasers in stage 1.
I think I like this game already.
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Also, just for fun, remember that someone from the previous game showed up in the following game. SA carried over Sanae, Suwako, and Nitori in separate ways; UFO carried Sanae over from SA, a bit more directly. So, does Youmu's inclusion (but not, importantly, Sanae's expulsion) indicate that he's going all the way back to PCB for his story? If Sanae had been left out of the playables, that might have indicated that he's setting his story since MoF to the side, but the simple fact that he's reached all the way back to Youmu AND kept Sanae might mean that 10D will unite the two halves of the Windows storylines. Which is... actually really REALLY disastrous for anyone who's writing a serial, but from a game/story perspective, actually really awesome.
I don't really see how it's disasterous to bring Youmu into it. It's not as if the characters disappear from Gensokyo if they're not involved in the games in some fashion; Eintei and the SDM are still there, they just don't bother chasing treasure ships like the witch and Mikos did.
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And now, this is probably going to drive some people crazy... I remember laughing in an overdramatic manner when I saw this. So... Mima is back... and as the extra stage's boss! However, she's been drastically redesigned. She now has red hair and her clothes consists of mostly yellow and red if I remember correctly... I can't remember the details, not even what kind of hat she's wearing, but it might be the same one, just with a different color... However, the guide says that she is the same person, and it also says that she is looking for inner peace, I think...
If this happens, I will crap out a brick the size of Yuyuko's weekly meal expenses.
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First off, iirc there was a fan project titled Touhou 13: Defiled Aquatic something or other. Dunno what happened to it, But compare it to the (currently being made) mother 4.
I'm pretty sure we all know they're will be new characters, every touhou game has introduced at least... 5 different characters, no?
Go ahead and discuss it here, It's relevant to the thread, And I'm going to ask you to tell me my god damned future if even a single detail is right.
Forgot to reply to these two in my earlier post about the dream...
I'm aware of that game's existence, though it's not a game, just a video. I'm aware of Marine Benefit as well. It would seem that both those games have water themes due to that same theory.
I know for sure that there will be new characters as well. It's just that I saw some people's posts in this thread showing that they doubt new characters appearing. Admittedly, I got to know the series after Touhou 12.3 came out, and I feel that the cast is complete and perfect as it is. When Hatate came along, I wasn't excited about her for some reason and didn't really think that the cast of characters has been increased. I also felt the same when Kasen was introduced. However, with Touhou 13 coming out, I feel for once that the cast really is increasing.
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Looks like I might have gotten to the party a bit late, but I'm very excited to see Youmu in the game. I wonder if that whole thing about divine spirits under her control might imply she could use some spirits like Options or the Bits from Image Fight as her shot types?
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GreenVirus' image makes me think that it could be from an Evony ad
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Don't know if anyone here has mentioned this already, but I found an interesting tidbit in PMiSS while I was doing some research for a story.If we're dealing with divine spirits, is it possible that Heaven's basically run out of room and started having to kick people out? It fits with the 10-spiritual-realms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms) idea, so are we going to see Reimu punching more gods in the face?
During the happenings of SWR Yukari actually finds out that this is a lie; Heaven is not full at all, the celestials just don't want others there. :V
...Nothing anywhere.
The heavens use the lands too luxuriously.
They say the heavens is too saturated so Enlightenment is forbidden...What a big lie.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Scarlet_Weather_Rhapsody/Translation/Yukari%27s_Scenario
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Thread made my day. Gonna get a physical copy if my grades are good enough.
I won't ask for Mima here, but it'd be nice if she came back. Fat chance, right?
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Same tohoes but alternate color schemes / names / demensions?
Sux :V
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On a side note, it really would be awesome if Ten Desires actually had ten stages. That'd be asking too much, though. (We pretty much all know it's six and an extra stage.)
Also, im expecting people to claim that the game is bullshit on the day that the trial is released because of the new gimmick that Zun's added in this release. Very much like how many thought how UFO was harder because of the new system and therefore bullshit.
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On a side note, it really would be awesome if Ten Desires actually had ten stages. That'd be asking too much, though. (We pretty much all know it's six and an extra stage.)
There's a lot of theories going around that there might be a different fourth stage for each character or something. Which would be awesome.
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Anyone remember the theory of Touhou 13 having a water theme because MOF, SA, and UFO have earth, fire, and wind themes respectively?
Zun decided to switch things up and did heart spirit first.
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Or he used... the other elements? I guess... Wood and Metal are still around... but who knows...
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On a side note, it really would be awesome if Ten Desires actually had ten stages. That'd be asking too much, though. (We pretty much all know it's six and an extra stage.)
Considering there is Spell Practice in this game could easily mean that there are more spell cards like there were in IN which had pretty much 8 Stages + Extra.
Split paths in some way or something depending on whoever you are playing as could easily bring us up to 10 Stages.
On the other hand, even if the 10 Desires are somewhat linked in the actual design of the game I would be kinda surprised if the actual plot would start up before stage 3, so... even if the bosses are linked to the 10 Spiritual Realms, I don't think the stage 1 boss will have anything to do with it (or at least look like she has anything to do with it, until the full game throws her in as the Extra Boss).
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On the other hand, even if the 10 Desires are somewhat linked in the actual design of the game I would be kinda surprised if the actual plot would start up before stage 3, so... even if the bosses are linked to the 10 Spiritual Realms, I don't think the stage 1 boss will have anything to do with it (or at least look like she has anything to do with it, until the full game throws her in as the Extra Boss).
You mean how Rika was the extra boss in SoEW? We can always have a stage 1 boss be an extra stage boss again.That would be nice.
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We do have a precedent of a stage 1 boss being tied in with the plot though - Nazrin.
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We do have a precedent of a stage 1 boss being tied in with the plot though - Nazrin.
An exception is needed to proof a rule. Also, I mentioned that at least in the demo, we wouldn't get much involved in whats really happening. As I said, a stage 1 or 2 boss can easily come back later and mean business, but who would have thought, Nazrin would come back as the servant of a tiger.
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Don't know if anyone here has mentioned this already, but I found an interesting tidbit in PMiSS while I was doing some research for a story.If we're dealing with divine spirits, is it possible that Heaven's basically run out of room and started having to kick people out? It fits with the 10-spiritual-realms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms) idea, so are we going to see Reimu punching more gods in the face?
Okay this sounds awesome-
During the happenings of SWR Yukari actually finds out that this is a lie; Heaven is not full at all, the celestials just don't want others there. :V
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Scarlet_Weather_Rhapsody/Translation/Yukari%27s_Scenario
Even better.
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I saw it somewhere in this thread but I forgot. and I don't see it on the first post and I DONT want to read the entire thread again. But I could have sworn I saw someone say the release date of the demo, what is it again?
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I saw it somewhere in this thread but I forgot. and I don't see it on the first post and I DONT want to read the entire thread again. But I could have sworn I saw someone say the release date of the demo, what is it again?
Think someone said March/April.
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I saw it somewhere in this thread but I forgot. and I don't see it on the first post and I DONT want to read the entire thread again. But I could have sworn I saw someone say the release date of the demo, what is it again?
Couldn't even read the first post? :S
I don't get half because I don't know how to moon and GTranslate makes it confusing, but he mentions a trial during Reitaisai. Maybe.
There really aren't many details beyond that, as far as I'm aware.
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I saw it somewhere in this thread but I forgot. and I don't see it on the first post and I DONT want to read the entire thread again. But I could have sworn I saw someone say the release date of the demo, what is it again?
I think it's ReitaisaI 8. March 13-14?
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Couldn't even read the first post? :S
I said I DID read it and I didn't see it. Reitaisai (maybe?) isn't exactly a definitive release date. I'm pretty sure I saw it clarified later on.
anyway based on future replies looks like the answer I was looking for simply confirmed that guess so thanks.
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I saw it somewhere in this thread but I forgot. and I don't see it on the first post and I DONT want to read the entire thread again. But I could have sworn I saw someone say the release date of the demo, what is it again?
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires
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Looks like I'm three days late :V It's been a pretty long time since I've been on MoTK . Hmmmmm Sanae a playable character? Again? I don't mind having Youmu in the gang, but I would've preferred if Sanae was replaced by Sakuya. But I know that'll it'll never since it seems like the past few games ZUN has neglected her. And I've read this whole thread and the most I can remember now is "MIMA-SAMAAAAAAAAA" and "Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post."
Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
wut it's been three days already and this is still happening
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Looks like I'm three days late :V It's been a pretty long time since I've been on MoTK . Hmmmmm Sanae a playable character? Again? I don't mind having Youmu in the gang, but I would've preferred if Sanae was replaced by Sakuya. But I know that'll it'll never since it seems like the past few games ZUN has neglected her. And I've read this whole thread and the most I can remember now is "MIMA-SAMAAAAAAAAA" and "Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post."
Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
wut it's been three days already and this is still happening
Yeah and like most memes out there those jokes are old now :P
But hey, this may have had the most posts in a short time span in this version of MotK, but nothing will ever beat the wa-
/me is shot mercilessly
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Yesssssss a Touhou game I stand a chance of beating screw you UFO :V
Yesssssss Youmu comes back :3
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Yesssssss a Touhou game I stand a chance of beating screw you UFO :V
oh, you don't know that yet. it could be terrible.
:V :V :V
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oh, you don't know that yet. it could be terrible.
:V :V :V
Also, im expecting people to claim that the game is bullshit on the day that the trial is released because of the new gimmick that Zun's added in this release. Very much like how many thought how UFO was harder because of the new system and therefore bullshit.
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This isn't based on just my opinion alone. Zun said that he made the difficulty harder by adding in a new element in the game.
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This isn't based on just my opinion alone. Zun said that he made the difficulty harder by adding in a new element in the game.
He said he made the game more complicated to make the difficulty easier. I'm assuming by 'complicated' he means some fancy game mechanic of some sort (like maybe hypers).
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He said he made the game more complicated to make the difficulty easier. I'm assuming by 'complicated' he means some fancy game mechanic of some sort (like maybe hypers).
Zun making Touhou easier? That seems like a first. :V (You can argue IN, but eh)
I really do think Zun is going to even out the difficulty in this game.
More among the likes of UFO...
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He said he made the game more complicated to make the difficulty easier. I'm assuming by 'complicated' he means some fancy game mechanic of some sort (like maybe hypers).
Are you sure? Gensokyo.org has this for their translation of ZUN's post:
Even though I only put out one work a year, having thought about how long I?ve been at it, I imagine the target demographics for my games have changed.
And so, this time, I will be keeping the difficulty level in check and won?t be going wild on the complexity of the game mechanics.
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The game will be hard as fuck as always and I will forever remain as a secodnary
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Are you sure? Gensokyo.org has this for their translation of ZUN's post:
Raw difficulty is the best kind of difficulty. The developer doesn't put any bs (Not that Zun ever has, btw) that puts the player in an unfair situation. (Unfriendly controls, complicated health system, player death required to proceed to next level, etc. Unavoidable patterns)
Maybe this time I'll finally move up to Lunatic.
*GreenVirus points at signature.
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Raw difficulty is the best kind of difficulty. The developer doesn't put any bs (Not that Zun ever has, btw) that puts the player in an unfair situation.
That seems unrelated to my point.
According to that translation not only was ZUN making the game easier ("keeping the difficulty level in check"), he said he wasn't going to make the game more "complicated" ("won?t be going wild on the complexity of the game mechanics") which contradicts what Suikama QB said.
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Soo.... I am confused.
What's going to get harder? The gameplay mechanics or the danmaku? :ohdear:
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Soo.... I am confused.
Will the danmaku get harder, or will the gameplay mechanics? :ohdear:
Even though I only put out one work a year, having thought about how long I?ve been at it, I imagine the target demographics for my games have changed.
And so, this time, I will be keeping the difficulty level in check and won?t be going wild on the complexity of the game mechanics.
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Are you sure? Gensokyo.org has this for their translation of ZUN's post:
Oh I went off someone else's translation so :V
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I said I DID read it and I didn't see it. Reitaisai (maybe?) isn't exactly a definitive release date. I'm pretty sure I saw it clarified later on.
Sorry if I can't read ZUN's mind via blogpost, so yeah
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That seems unrelated to my point.
According to that translation not only was ZUN making the game easier ("keeping the difficulty level in check"), he said he wasn't going to make the game more "complicated" ("won?t be going wild on the complexity of the game mechanics") which contradicts what Suikama QB said.
I trying to point out that Zun is basing most of the difficulty on the patterns themselves instead of making it harder because of gameplay mechanics, or because of anything else that could be considered "fake difficulty." :V
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K, that makes things a lot clearer~ :derp:
Still, I just can't wait to see what ZUN has stored for us in Touhou 13.....
I demand that the final boss be Kogasa a non-spirit/ghost thing.
Oh, and I keep thinking TD to be like if UFO and IN had a baby. I can't wait for spellpractice! :3
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Well woah. I poof for a couple of days and look what happens. Anyways, looking forward to this!
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I'd love me some Kogasa, but it's unlikely :derp:
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I'd love me some Kogasa, but it's unlikely :derp:
Yeah, Kogasa is the only persona in the UFO cast I really like. But I'm not really sure if I want her back enough to "kill" a spot for a new potential character I might possibly like more (unlikely but more the merrier). Hatate and Kasen are different simply because they haven't had their turn yet in the XX.0 games yet.
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I'm not really fond of Hatate though, for the same reasons I'm not fond of Sanae.
Kasen on the other hand could use an appearance.
On that note, there's a few other characters who didn't get the chance to show in the games but imo totally deserve it, like Tokiko.
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oh, you don't know that yet. it could be terrible.
:V :V :V
:colonveeplusalpha:
I'll be sticking to Normal, then. Again.
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Kasen on the other hand could use an appearance.
On that note, there's a few other characters who didn't get the chance to show in the games but imo totally deserve it, like Tokiko.
Agreed with all'a this. Especially Tokiko.
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Hatate and Kasen are different simply because they haven't had their turn yet in the XX.0 games yet.
Nor did Renko, Maribel, Watatsuki sisters, Reisen II, etc etc :V
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Nor did Renko, Maribel, Watatsuki sisters, Reisen II, etc etc :V
On that note, there's a few other characters who didn't get the chance to show in the games but imo totally deserve it
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>Watatsukis
>In a TH game
Hardest Boss(es) ever.
Thought they were bad in SSiB, here comes a fuckton of danmaku eating and bullshit death ready to smash your face repeatedly on the keyboard and mock you for even trying.
I could go for Reisen II though, because bunnies.
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But but
Yorihime is <3
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Yorihime is <3
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Still hoping for Kasen to be in it, though.
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>Watatsukis
>In a TH game
Hardest Boss(es) ever.
Thought they were bad in SSiB, here comes a fuckton of danmaku eating and bullshit death ready to smash your face repeatedly on the keyboard and mock you for even trying.
It'll be like Dodonpachi or one of Cave's other games where bombs do fuck-all to the TLB.
ZUN should totally use this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHqN_fH2S7k&t=1m28s) as a baseline for Moonbitch, but with nice bullet patterns and without the mandatory bomb spamming.
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Nor did Renko, Maribel, Watatsuki sisters, Reisen II, etc etc :V
Depending on which speculation/theory is actually true (if any), Maribel's possibly been fought in an XX.0 game. :P
I'd be surprised if Kasen showed up in a game so soon. Her own manga series had only just recently begun. Her plot isn't even completely established yet from that series. The three fairies didn't get to be in a game until waaaay later, too. Of course, like the three fairies, I do expect her to show up eventually.
Now that I think about it, does Hetate even really count when considering this? You technically did fight her spell cards in a game (Double Spoiler when you play as Aya). Sure, it wasn't an XX.0 game, but it was one of the closest things, I think. This also applies to Iku, Tenshi, and Suika (who weren't listed)
....eh. Me personally, I'm expecting characters who've never been fought in any fashion before in a danmaku game (IE, not just xx.0, but also the shoot the bullet games). Of course, that basically means I'm 99% expecting all new characters. ZUN re-using a character as a danmaku boss in an xx.0 game is EXTREMELY rare. Off the top of my head, the only times a char's been used as a boss in multiple games is Cirno (2nd stage boss in the first game, a midboss in the 2nd) and Lily (who doesn't really count that much since she's more like a random feature in Phantasmagoria). And Marisa/Reimu being fought in one of the PC-98 games vs one of the Window Games, but I'm not sure if that should count either since it's... well, PC-98.
Outside of new characters, the only characters that haven't been used in a Danmaku game are Kasen (too early, IMHO), the fighting bosses (Suika, Iku, Tenshi. All 3 I'm not really expecting but I suppose it's possible), and some of the written-works-only characters, most of whom I wouldn't really expect to show up either (though again, it's possible).
In essence, if that character was a boss in a previous game, I'm not banking on them showing up as a boss in this game.
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(wordswords)
Outside of new characters, the only characters that haven't been used in a Danmaku game are Kasen (too early, IMHO), the fighting bosses (Suika, Iku, Tenshi. (and some more words)
I thought Suika was in Double Spoiler? It's been a while since I played that, but I was pretty sure she was. (Iku and Tenshi might be either, but more of a stretch because I haven't beat half the game/looked up who was in it past where I got)
Anyhow, ZUN's 99.99% chance sure going to add in 6/7 new characters - 1 for each stage, and a possible new for the EX-boss (although a re-use from another stage/game is possible). I, for one, am all for it - when UFO first came out, I was a bit hesitant to accept just about any of the characters into my head, and yet now I just see them as another part of the cast that fits in just as well.
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He knows that. He's wondering if having their only danmaku appearance in DS even counts as an appearance. You fight their spell cards, but it isn't really a danmaku battle.
Anyways, my stance on this is "that I don't care; ZUN will probably release the game as he always has, with everyone being new except perhaps one boss or a cameo character or whatever. Even though the general reason for any given character addition is new material, unless the character is actually relevant to the story, has plot backing or is purposefully used as filler material (even filler has a story, after all), they'd generally be a useless addition, being only danmaku or whatever. You could even say that Sanae's appearance in SA was only for the purpose of transitioning her into a (possibly permament) player character. ZUN likely had her in mind even before finishing MoF.
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Realistically, the only way we'd see a bunch of characters from previous games show up in a XX.0 game is if ZUN does another Phantasmagoria. Expecting more than one (or two, if it's a stage 4 gimmick) old bosses to show is a stretch, mid-bosses included.
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I thought Suika was in Double Spoiler? It's been a while since I played that, but I was pretty sure she was. (Iku and Tenshi might be either, but more of a stretch because I haven't beat half the game/looked up who was in it past where I got)
If I remember right, Suika appeared in both Shoot the Bullet and Double Spoiler, and Iku and Tenshi are stage... 9? 10? in Double Spoiler.
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If I remember right, Suika appeared in both Shoot the Bullet and Double Spoiler, and Iku and Tenshi are stage... 9? 10? in Double Spoiler.
Yes, and Scene 10.
So far, none of the characters who debuted in a fighting game have appeared as bosses/playable characters in a main Touhou game. Makes me wonder when, or if, they ever will. If this divine spirit crisis really has something to do with Heaven, then it's possible we might see Iku or Tenshi in passing (probably no later than Stage 4 or 5, since I expect new characters to be fought in the endgame).
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That sounds a bit against what you just said. Or did you mean endgame as in, stage 6?
Hmm... I'd really love to see Iku return. It would give ZUN an excuse for more curvy lasers, though... ::)
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So far, none of the characters who debuted in a fighting game have appeared as bosses/playable characters in a main Touhou game.
Suika was one of Reimu's partners in Subterranean Animism, if that counts.
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I feel so late to the news :(... but yay for spell practise, I can actually try and get better and not bomb on the first card like the first time I played IN XD...
As long as I get through it first of course.
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He knows that. He's wondering if having their only danmaku appearance in DS even counts as an appearance. You fight their spell cards, but it isn't really a danmaku battle.
Anyways, my stance on this is "that I don't care; ZUN will probably release the game as he always has, with everyone being new except perhaps one boss or a cameo character or whatever. Even though the general reason for any given character addition is new material, unless the character is actually relevant to the story, has plot backing or is purposefully used as filler material (even filler has a story, after all), they'd generally be a useless addition, being only danmaku or whatever. You could even say that Sanae's appearance in SA was only for the purpose of transitioning her into a (possibly permament) player character. ZUN likely had her in mind even before finishing MoF.
So would Kogasa be considered a useless addition to UFO? She doesn't play a role in that game's plot at all.
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So would Kogasa be considered a useless addition to UFO? She doesn't play a role in that game's plot at all.
I wouldn't say that. UFO seems to have a sub-plot I'd call "Youkai are bad". Why are they bad? Because they are scary, because they eat humans and because the scare humans to eat them, so we exterminate them. Kogasa tries to scare people and is therefore a perfect example for this (Even though she utterly fails at her youkai-job).
This sub-plot eventually leads up to the embodiment of scariness and unknown, the Nue herself. It's even made more obvious by ZUN putting Kogasa, now actually able to do her job properly, as the midboss of Nue's stage. Manjyuu are scary...
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That sounds a bit against what you just said. Or did you mean endgame as in, stage 6?
Sorry, I should have clarified. Stage 5 only if she is supporting the final boss in whatever the crisis is. Otherwise, Stage 4.
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ZUN said Kogasa was "the only passerby youkai in this game."
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ZUN said Kogasa was "the only passerby youkai in this game."
AKA not important at all :V
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You guys are mixing up "content-less" with "purposeless". Kogasa was purposeless yeah, but she still contributed overall to the game as a whole; there's now a new character to play around with, new dialogue with a different personality and newly styled danmaku.
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Kogasa's purpose is to be incredibly fucking moe.
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Kogasa's purpose is to be incredibly fucking moe.
p much
That's why shes awesome.
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I could see Kogasa returning as the Stage 1 Midboss, like Cirno did.
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I could see Kogasa returning as the Stage 1 Midboss, like Cirno did.
Eh, Kogasa also appeared as the Extra midboss. That'd be one hell of a demotion.
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True that.
Though if any old character is returning as a (mid)boss, surprise Kogasa would be the most likely, I think.
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You guys are mixing up "content-less" with "purposeless". Kogasa was purposeless yeah, but she still contributed overall to the game as a whole; there's now a new character to play around with, new dialogue with a different personality and newly styled danmaku.
I meant storyline-wise :V
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1000 hits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17fuL43j_0E)
ty guys I luv u 2
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1000 hits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17fuL43j_0E)
ty guys I luv u 2
How could that be leaked? I mean, the only thing thats even mentioned Ten Desires that's official is ZUN himself, And even then, He just announced the game on his blog. Where would said music come from?
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How could that be leaked? I mean, the only thing thats even mentioned Ten Desires that's official is ZUN himself, And even then, He just announced the game on his blog. Where would said music come from?
:trollface:
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How could that be leaked? I mean, the only thing thats even mentioned Ten Desires that's official is ZUN himself, And even then, He just announced the game on his blog. Where would said music come from?
You didn't quite get it, did you?
see the comments :P
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SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!
Rinnosuke is boss in stages 1-Final. :V
MANosuke is the Ex-boss. :V
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I'm probably stupid, but is that the cirno.ttf font on the hypers thingy?
stupid again, but I haven't seen that font in a game in a while.
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10 desires
ten stages :derp:
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=17097131
Welp, it was only a matter of time before somebody did it.
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=17097131 (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=17097131)
Welp, it was only a matter of time before somebody did it.
I expected it to happen sooner TBQH. :V
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Kogasa is probably going to come back as a (mid/extra stage)boss, or as a secret playable character. :P
Oh, and Sanae is one of ZUN's favorite touhous, if it hasn't been obvious yet. She had awesome an awesome theme and spellcards in MoF, made a Kogasa-surprise-like cameo in SA, became playable in UFO, and was included as one of the main three heroines from DS's extra stage.
ZUN loves her no matter what the fans have said/will say.
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As much as I would love for Mima to be in TD, I know there's a high chance that she won't be. But I swear if she is in the game, I'll eat my shorts.
Also, about that live stream with ZUN being disgusted at all the people yelling 'MIMA-SAMAAAAA~!', I think his disgust was more because of how rude these spammers were rather than him being disgusted at the mention of Mima. If it were me, I'd be disgusted at them for doing that, too. They could've been more civilized, really.
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Very true. I love Mima, but annoying fanboys are annoying. (Main reason I hate Final Fantasy 7....)
That's probably why Mima isn't ever showing her face - she's disgusted by them all. (Or something.)
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As much as I would love for Mima to be in TD, I know there's a high chance that she won't be. But I swear if she is in the game, I'll eat my shorts.
toxx clause
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toxx clause
Just remember, nekorandomnessqueen: You can eat anything you boil long enough. Ketchup also helps.
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...I suddenly have this feeling that soon I shall find out that I'll have to keep that swear. ._.
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BTW isn't Kogasa a "ghost" herself?
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I don't think so.
She's a living umbrella.
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I read somewhere respectable if not canon that Kogasa is the umbrela using astral projection to create the girl.
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She is the umbrella, since she was formed from an abandoned umbrella. It's possible the girl is also her though, not just a projection.
Also on topic, I'm betting it's 7 new girls, though a Mima or Orin appearance would be fine too.
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1000 hits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17fuL43j_0E)
ty guys I luv u 2
You know, I actually thought it was real the first time I listened to it.
Not as good as Deified Submarine Palace, but I didn't hate it like the others did.
If the game comes out and I don't hear this theme, I won't even notice.
That's how indifferent I am :V
I mean, until the game comes out, I'm not going to take anything seriously.
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Looks like someone is getting their hopes up... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfbfF5-FkE&feature=related)
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Looks like someone is getting their hopes up... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfbfF5-FkE&feature=related)
I feel so tempted to comment on the video telling the guy that Mima is an evil spirit and all that, but I know I would only hurt myself by going into that. >_>
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Looks like someone is getting their hopes up... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfbfF5-FkE&feature=related)
>holy spirit
>mima
>google translate
wat. You'd think everyone would know shes far from holy. And OLOLOLOLGoogle
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I feel so tempted to comment on the video telling the guy that Mima is an evil spirit and all that, but I know I would only hurt myself by going into that. >_>
I feel you.
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I feel so tempted to comment on the video telling the guy that Mima is an evil spirit and all that, but I know I would only hurt myself by going into that. >_>
I already commented.
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I feel so tempted to comment on the video telling the guy that Mima is an evil spirit and all that, but I know I would only hurt myself by going into that. >_>
A boy has the right to dream. With each new game, there are endless possibilities stretched out before him. What awaits him in this game he will then have to play.
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A boy has the right to dream. With each new game, there are endless possibilities stretched out before him. What awaits him in this game he will then have to play.
Oh my. Double whammy with nostalgia and humour.
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>Google translate
>Complete misconception
>Background is Sasha fanart shittily rendered and stretched
>Giant in the Playground
>reaperance
>YES
>mac
That video couldn't be more goddamn terrible even if it tried.
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That video couldn't be more goddamn terrible even if it tried.
Is that a challenge?
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Is that a challenge?
Please say it's a challenge!
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Please say it's a challenge!
I challenge thee.
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Idiot contest go.
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Idiot contest go.
Rules:
You've got the make the actual point seem valid, Only you have flawwed logic
You cant just say "DURRHURRILIEKWAFFLES" or nonsense like that. You must ACTUALLY put effort into proving your point, whilst being a retard.
And finally, I got fuckin' dibs on being the judge. :4
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pretty sure i'd have to be the judge
things:
-most terrible video reaction to touhou 13 announcement ever, objective is to be worse than above video without making it obvious you're doing it on purpose
-make it smartly retarded, not just tacking on stupid willy-nilly; you want to fool people into thinking you're genuinely an idiot
that is all
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pretty sure i'd have to be the judge
things:
-most terrible video reaction to touhou 13 announcement ever, objective is to be worse than above video without making it obvious you're doing it on purpose
-make it smartly retarded, not just tacking on stupid willy-nilly; you want to fool people into thinking you're genuinely an idiot
that is all
Thanks for making my words less complicated.
But how many people will make a video? GASP. (I still got dibs on judging btw. you can too. but I'm still cooler.)
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*Watches warmly for amusing results*
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Htf does an apparent Mima fan not know she's supposed to be an EVIL spirit!? I'm not a Mima fan and I've known that over a year now, seriously.
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Htf does an apparent Mima fan not know she's supposed to be an EVIL spirit!? I'm not a Mima fan and I've known that over a year now, seriously.
Fanon screws up a lot with the actual canon.
Hell when I first heard of touhou I thought yuuka was MOEMOEKAWAIIDESU~~~~~~~
But nope. fanon. Fucks your miiiiiind man. So, Who else wants a hand in this? I wanna see the amusing results by next friday maybe?
moemoekawaidesu yuuka is SHIT.
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Htf does an apparent Mima fan not know she's supposed to be an EVIL spirit!? I'm not a Mima fan and I've known that over a year now, seriously.
SHE IS NOT EVIL SHE IS JUST MISUNDERSTOOOOOD! :qq:
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Mima's not misunderstood, she just went through a phase, like all Touhou bosses. First, they attack, then you sit down and sip tea with them like nothing ever happened.
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Htf does an apparent Mima fan not know she's supposed to be an EVIL spirit!? I'm not a Mima fan and I've known that over a year now, seriously.
How can you be a "charming demon" and evil at the same ti-
(http://www.yurikai.com/forum/images/smilies/kyubey_smiley.png)
...Oh.
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How can you be a "charming demon" and evil at the same ti-
(http://www.yurikai.com/forum/images/smilies/kyubey_smiley.png)
...Oh.
Her name literally means "Charming Demon", and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is not really that democratic... :derp:
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Fanon screws up a lot with the actual canon.
You can say that again.
And again.
And again.
And again.
I'm serious. Keep saying it.
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You can say that again.
And again.
And again.
And again.
I'm serious. Keep saying it.
I could tell you about that one fanfic with Dora the Explorer and Touhou.
best fanon evah!111!!
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Looks like someone is getting their hopes up... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfbfF5-FkE&feature=related)
rofl ragequit
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we won youtube
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lol
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Looks like someone is getting their hopes up... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfbfF5-FkE&feature=related)
This video is no longer available because the uploader has closed their YouTube account.
Aww, and I wanted to see how retarded this guy was. What a gyp.
best fanon evah!111!!
No.
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This video is no longer available because the uploader has closed their YouTube account.
Haha, are you serious?
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Dang it, too late to see the video....
Did anyone save/record it? :derp:
And what exactly was he arguing about?
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>Google translated whole ZUN blog post
>Finds words "divine spirit"
>Googles "touhou divine spirit" or something
>Receives post from forums he likely goes to because it pops up first
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10460456&postcount=1351
>MIMA MIGHT MAKE A REAPERANCE
just the way he had the whole video was absolutely dumb
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I watched it. I have no idea why anyone cares all that much. This coming from someone who really enjoyed Mima as a character.
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I didn't care until he deleted his account.
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Heh, sounds pretty illogical to me. This probably just goes to show you that some, not all, Mima fans are, indeed, desperate. If I were ZUN, I would just pretend she never existed (whoops, ZUN is already doing that).~
I can't wait to see which side gets the biggest slap-in-the-face once ZUN releases TD. If Mima does come back, then it'll be pure fanservice to those who were dying for her to come back, but if she doesn't.... then :V
I wonder how many people are actually going to ragequit Touhou forever once Mima does/doesn't come back....
My point is that I am mostly disgusted at those people who are ungrateful to ZUN for what he has already done for us (which is, going through all the trouble to keep alive touhou for a bunch of ungrateful people). Why do people hate ZUN so much only because he will not re-introduce Mima again?
On topic: How many days 'till Resetai 8? Will ZUN release the demo online too? I can't wait.......
(OH BABY....... UFO style game + spellpractice = ...... YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
:getdown:
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As of today, ⑨ more days apparently. I love how people are wanting Mima shoved into the storyline, regardless of what Zun thinks. Zun only adds characters that he feels is relevant to the story, and ones that actually please HIM (first and foremost). I don't think he has made a game yet that had characters because he has given into pressure. If Mima is included, it will be because she is relevant to the plot, and not because of what was mentioned beforehand. Well, this is Gensokyo, a land so fantastic and mysterious, it is quite all right to dream. ♪
I will be amused anyways- if for any conceivable reason Mima appears in this game, it will not be in the Demo that he is putting out. I myself personally welcome any new characters to the story, and I hope it's a game that keeps me entertained regardless of it's challenge (I'm quite an ordinary player in an extraordinary world). So far Zun has not dissapointed me yet.
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If Mima comes back:
1-Mima fans will be all like "omigosh"
2-Mima fans will make a lot of fanwork of her
3-Mima fans (and some other fans, too) will forget about other characters for a while, and most of the doujins, remixes and images will be of Mima, causing all the fanwork about other characters be ignored.
4-The rest of the fans will hate Mima.
The touhou fan cycle~
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If Mima comes back:
1-Mima fans will be all like "omigosh"
2-Mima fans will make a lot of fanwork of her
3-Mima fans (and some other fans, too) will forget about other characters for a while, and most of the doujins, remixes and images will be of Mima, causing all the fanwork about other characters be ignored.
4-The rest of the fans will hate Mima.
The touhou fan cycle~
Honestly, could you really blame them for if this does happen? To the mimafags, who've been hooting about Mima coming back since her disappearance when the windows games started, this is like being starved for days on end and finally getting a bigass feast to chow down on. The fangasm will be of astronomical proportions.
Also...
Given this is a game about divine spirits I wonder if we'll get to see more of Heaven. I'm a sucker for the geography of Gensokyo and, probably, would be disappointed if we don't go anywhere new...
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Honestly, could you really blame them for if this does happen? To the mimafags who've been hooting about Mima coming back since her disappearance when the windows game started, this is like being starved for days on end and finally getting a bigass feast to chow down on. The fangasm will be of astronomical proportions.
Oh, I never really said it was wrong. But, if you are going to hate someone, hate the fans. Not Mima. It wouldn't be Mima's fault that other characters are ignored, now, would it?
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Oh, I never really said it was wrong. But, if you are going to hate someone, hate the fans. Not Mima. It wouldn't be Mima's fault that other characters are ignored, now, would it?
No, because if she reappeared, she'd clearly be a slut >=P.
Seriously though, it's just kinda standard for the masses to hate a character that's really popular all of a sudden if they don't like that character in question too.
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"it's normal but it shouldn't happen" :P
'sides, I don't mean normal hate, fans tend to rage all over the place without a reason, with the only excuse that "other characters should have a bit of attention too". They should, but in either case, blame the artists. And I bet that most of the fans wouldn't hate those characters if they weren't popular.
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To be honest, I myself am hoping for Mima's return. My mindset is kind of the same: If Yuuka came back, why not Mima? Of course, I am excited for new characters.
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Finally.....got.....done.....reading.....all.....25.....pages.....huff.....huff.
To be honest, I myself am hoping for Mima's return. My mindset is kind of the same: If Yuuka came back, why not Mima? Of course, I am excited for new characters.
Yuuka came back because she made sense to be in the story, in a way. Mima coming back could actually make sense with the current plot. I'm not one of those crazy fans that demands her to come back though. It personally wouldn't bother me either way if she was here or not.
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I would actually
enjoy love seeing her back. I honestly don't like her.... at all, but if she came back then I would actually be able to know more about this "Mima" person everyone talks about (since I don't know anything about the PC98 era).
Also, Yuuka came back during an incident with flowers, so why can't Mima come back during an incident with spirits?
(Please note that I, right now, am neutral with Mima, so I don't really care what happens (if anything) to her....)
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Mima this, and Mima that. When are we gonna start hearing about Rika and Shinki, huh?!
But, I really don't think this story-line is a reason for Mima to come back. Sure, she's a spirit, sure, she haunts the Hakurei Shrine, but she's an Evil Spirit/Ghost/Extended Metaphor for why pointy hats are cool. This game is about divine spirits so I really don't think ZUN would even think of getting Mima involved.
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Mima this, and Mima that. When are we gonna start hearing about Rika and Shinki, huh?!
Rika would be way awesome to have back. (SPOILERS: She's the final boss) Shinki on the other hand, IMO, meh. She never really struck me as an important character like most other final bosses do. (though this is probably due to no english patch for that game yet, and I'm too lazy to use touhou wiki) Though I have to admit, her danmaku is pretty awesome.
Though if she did come back, I would probably have a change of heart for her.
I would be cool though if in some danmaku game, you could play as Chen. Seriously, who wouldn't?
Also, just to say this, I would lol so hard if Meiling was playable in a danmaku game. :D
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I couldn't wait to find out who the new characters are!
Maybe fanart will spring up both in Japan and Outside Japan (USA) at the same rate!
Also, I bet the music would be awesome, and remixes (Techno, Rock, and Classical) would also spring up very soon!
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Mima this, and Mima that. When are we gonna start hearing about Rika and Shinki, huh?!
And what about yumemi and chiyuri!?
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You know, ZUN should just reboot the entire PC-98 crew into existance.
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I, for one, think that we don't need any new characters, because the Touhou universe has too many as it is. There is a ridiculous saturation of girls in Gensokyo, and I really think ZUN should concentrate on further fleshing out the characters he already has. I'm just sick of seeing new characters.
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I can't wait to bomb some
dodongoes youkai!
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I, for one, think that we don't need any new characters, because the Touhou universe has too many as it is. There is a ridiculous saturation of girls in Gensokyo, and I really think ZUN should concentrate on further fleshing out the characters he already has. I'm just sick of seeing new characters.
Okay, let's just say that, as an example, PCB didn't have new characters, and all of PCB cast is just from older games (only PCB, not the rest). Would you really have liked it that way, knowing how PCB characters are?
I think that a touhou without new lolis would provoke Kogasa to kill herself (seriously speaking, but it would be kinda boring). Besides, touhou fandom is what it is because of the lack of information, inspiring the fans to be creative and fill it with theories~
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You know, ZUN should just reboot the entire PC-98 crew into existance.
Orange is suddenly an extra stage boss. Meiling crashes onto the scene out of nowhere as the midboss.
It'd be kinda fun seeing some of the old characters come back, but I severely doubt any more would at this point. Bringing Yuuka back seemed like a stretch in the first place and I'm quite shocked to see her be so popular. On a side note, I am quite amused by the desperate Mima fans hoping she shows up out of nowhere for the next game and how their desperation is perfectly countered by those who burn with a seething rage simply because she still has a (truly justifiable) fandom. This in turn fuels the flames for the fans' desire for her return. A Mima fan I may be, but I watch these two have it out and all I can think of is "how about a game of chess?"
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You know, ZUN should just reboot the entire PC-98 crew into existance.
If nothing else, Yumemi and Chiyuri.
Also, the demo'll be online (say at ZUN's blog), right? I've actually never been around for any other demo releases, soo... ???
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I can't wait to bomb some dodongoes youkai!
:yukkuri:
Also, the demo'll be online (say at ZUN's blog), right? I've actually never been around for any other demo releases, soo... ???
Same here. I started playing Touhou as soon as Hisoutensoku was released. Double Spoiler and Great Fairy Wars are the only new games ZUN has released since I joined, but now..... now he's going to release a THx.0 game! :3
I've heard that he uploads them online, yet I've never really found them.... Any conformation?
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Also, the demo'll be online (say at ZUN's blog), right? I've actually never been around for any other demo releases, soo... ???
He normally puts the demos on his site, just not the fighters (except IaMP) and the picture games, and GFW. He also never mentioned that the demo will be online, it's only coming out at Reitaisai 8, which is strange in my opinion.
I've heard that he uploads them online, yet I've never really found them.... Any conformation?
http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/html/game.html
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I don't think so.
She's a living umbrella.
Karakasas are a kind of ghost.
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Confused.
So whats going on again?
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I, for one, think that we don't need any new characters, because the Touhou universe has too many as it is. There is a ridiculous saturation of girls in Gensokyo, and I really think ZUN should concentrate on further fleshing out the characters he already has. I'm just sick of seeing new characters.
This.
Although, I can understand why he's giving us alot of new characters. From what I've heard, he likes to use new content and, I'll admit, it helps keep things fresh and interesting. But come on, how many characters do we have here? Going back to what others have said, it's about time the lesser known characters get a piece of the action. You have a ridiculously huge cast of touhous at your disposal, Zun. Don't be afraid to use them.
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Speaking as someone who enjoys character design, the Touhou series is a character designer's dream. ZUN is constantly creating new and interesting characters, often who have relationships with previous characters. Many of these characters embody ideas or mythological creatures reworked from a new and interesting perspective. IMHO, it's part of what makes Touhou so great. And, as he mentioned before, Touhou is sort of like ZUN's sandbox. He just has fun with it without worrying too much.
In short, ZUN likes character design, so of course he's going to design more characters.
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Saying there should be no more new characters in touhou is sort of like saying there should be no more new robot masters in Megaman.
I mean yeah from a story perspective it would be nice to revisit old characters but from a gameplay perspective? New characters with new music and new styles and new gimmicks are just plain better.
Avatar related. I mean if there were no new characters in UFO we'd have "oh look Keine is back, yay", but instead we got GIANT FUCKING FISTS ATTACKING US HOLY SHIT. Which of these provides a better game experience?
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Speaking as someone who enjoys character design, the Touhou series is a character designer's dream. ZUN is constantly creating new and interesting characters, often who have relationships with previous characters. Many of these characters embody ideas or mythological creatures reworked from a new and interesting perspective. IMHO, it's part of what makes Touhou so great. And, as he mentioned before, Touhou is sort of like ZUN's sandbox. He just has fun with it without worrying too much.
In short, ZUN likes character design, so of course he's going to design more characters.
Character designs, you say? (http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/5/55/Zun_Designs.jpg)
Sorry, but it was just so fitting.
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Speaking of new music, since spell practice is back, there's a chance for new Last Words and therefore new Last Word music. Sweet!
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Saying there should be no more new characters in touhou is sort of like saying there should be no more new robot masters in Megaman.
I mean yeah from a story perspective it would be nice to revisit old characters but from a gameplay perspective? New characters with new music and new styles and new gimmicks are just plain better.
Avatar related. I mean if there were no new characters in UFO we'd have "oh look Keine is back, yay", but instead we got GIANT FUCKING FISTS ATTACKING US HOLY SHIT. Which of these provides a better game experience?
I agree, though I have to say I really didn't care much for the UFO cast overall >=P.
Giant fists are cool and all, but Curvy lasers are bad. I don't know why but they are so much worse than PC98 Alice/Shinki's cheetoh lasers, maybe cuz you know they're aimed. I don't know.
I read SSiB, and to be frank, I wasn't really impressed with the "deeper story" given to all the characters I knew and love within. I can't imagine a new game featuring older characters would fare much better. I think the more reasonable fanon really actually does a fair job at fleshing out the characters Zun makes in a way we like. Maybe not all the time, but Zun wouldn't make absolutely every character someone we like all the time either.
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Character designs, you say? (http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/5/55/Zun_Designs.jpg)
Sorry, but it was just so fitting.
More frills = more fandom = more people = MORE MONEY
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I read SSiB, and to be frank, I wasn't really impressed with the "deeper story" given to all the characters I knew and love within.
To be fair SSiB was about characters that already get tons of attention, so it didn't add much to them.
Canon works concerning more obscure characters on the other hand are very interesting, and that is the means by which their character development should be explored, rather than the handful of lines they would get by being a stage boss again.
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I would rather have new characters; let an official manga give the existing characters depth, so we can make some new "friends" in the games. That's my opinion on the matter.
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Not to mention for the past few games we've seen nothing but reused characters :V
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Character designs, you say? (http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/5/55/Zun_Designs.jpg)
Sorry, but it was just so fitting.
Ninja'd....
I would rather have new characters; let an official manga give the existing characters depth, so we can make some new "friends" in the games. That's my opinion on the matter.
This.
Especially since newer manga adds more information of life in Gensokyo
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Not to mention for the past few games we've seen nothing but reused characters :V
You make Hatate sad. No wonder the Hata-tan persona is so prevalent. :(
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I would rather have new characters; let an official manga give the existing characters depth, so we can make some new "friends" in the games. That's my opinion on the matter.
Let the official manga have its own characters; Kasen does not need to appear in any game, and to be honest, the fairy trio didn't need to appear either.
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Saturday I'll probably marathon touhou 6 to touhou 12.5 on normal/hard mode to get me back in shape, and just for kicks. I've been neglecting touhou a lot since UFO :(
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You were a Lunatic back when you played right? Danmaku skills never go away. They just go in hibernation until they are called upon again!
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Mima or Shinki is what people want and expect.
This reminds me of time when people cheered about possibility of Yumemi's return in UFO. They argued since the 東方星蓮船 which is the UFO's kanji title had the character for ship and Ichirin mentioned her 'sis' was a human, it must be true. They also added how Yuuka was in PoFV. Guess what? ZUN did not bring back Yumemi nor Chiyuri and did mention about low possibility of bringing PC-98 characters in future works. So, I would not place huge bet on Mima or Shinki's return.
Also, I am pessimistic about ZUN's comment about the game is going to have 'kind' difficulty by emphasizing in shooting down the targets - I recall him saying Touhou 9.5 was going to be easy and it was a killer for me. However, I am excited about the return of spell practice option. Only reason I could 1cc IN on Hard was numerous trial-and-errors in spell practice mode and I am glad to have it back.
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It would be amusing if ZUN brought more curvy lasers in. Just a thought.
... Hey, let's speculate on 10D's Stage 5 gimmick!
The boss will have her own Hyper that makes her spellcards suddenly become harder for short bursts of time!
I wonder if ZUN'll ever implement control-switching for a Stage 5 boss. That would be brutal.
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You were a Lunatic back when you played right? Danmaku skills never go away. They just go in hibernation until they are called upon again!
Lunatic's a big word, i've done a lot of practice on lunatic for most of the games, but I've only beaten IN and MoF on lunatic, i've beaten the other games on hard though, except for eosd, I never really got into that one, it's just too old.
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I hope he uses a similar life/bomb sytem as 12.8, because I really enjoyed it. Altough he would have to come up with something to gather % other than ice (point items can do this).
This will also be in line with his mindset of making this game slightly easier
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Kasen does not need to appear in any game
Look at this. Look at how wrong you are.
That said, I do agree with you that the Three Useless Fairies didn't need a game of their own. And for that matter, while Kasen should get spellcards (or, in my pipe dreams, a Last Word) and a theme, I actually disagree with Stuffman on how canon works flesh out a character more than a handful of lines. This is mostly because of official backstories and profiles from ZUN-- just look at Byakuren for the most recent example. Whether you love her or hate her, nobody can disagree that she has a lot of depth to her backstory. And canon works' track record of fleshing out characters isn't that great; SSiB didn't show us much of anything, SaBnD didn't do much for its three heroines, and Inaba2 was more comedic than anything else. (Great comedy, though.)
That said, as for CoLA and CiLR, they are both ungodly boring and I confess I've never been able to get past the first chapter of both, and it doesn't help that they're about characters I don't care about at all. WaHH, though, does have a lot more potential than the others for being both engaging and illuminating (in regards to the lives of the inhabitants of Gensokyo), and even if ZUN doesn't give Kasen an in-game appearance, there's always music CDs. I just don't think ZUN will be able to resist giving her a theme.
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Looks like someone is getting their hopes up... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfbfF5-FkE&feature=related)
wait what
the user deleted his account
did you troll him that hard?
gee.
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We pretty much just told him he was wrong. That's it :V
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I think Stuffman's right. Introducing new things - whether "gimmicks", music, gameplay or yes, characters - keeps the game series interesting. As would a new spin on older characters, sure, but the manga can give you more character depth if that's what you're after.
That's what I don't get about "Character X does not need to appear/Character Y totally needs to appear she deserves it she's so much more worthy than anyone else waaah". Who's to say who "needs" to be in the game, and who doesn't? There's absolutely no qualitative measure for that. That's what I find so boggling about arguing over the importance of one character over another. It's another type of powerlevel discussion.
I love new characters. I also have old favorites that I'd love to see return. But I could never say who does and does not "need" to come back. That borders on entitled lunacy; like the game developer owes you, personally, your favorite Touhou.
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Look at this. Look at how wrong you are.
That said, I do agree with you that the Three Useless Fairies didn't need a game of their own. And for that matter, while Kasen should get spellcards (or, in my pipe dreams, a Last Word) and a theme, I actually disagree with Stuffman on how canon works flesh out a character more than a handful of lines. This is mostly because of official backstories and profiles from ZUN-- just look at Byakuren for the most recent example. Whether you love her or hate her, nobody can disagree that she has a lot of depth to her backstory. And canon works' track record of fleshing out characters isn't that great; SSiB didn't show us much of anything, SaBnD didn't do much for its three heroines, and Inaba2 was more comedic than anything else. (Great comedy, though.)
That said, as for CoLA and CiLR, they are both ungodly boring and I confess I've never been able to get past the first chapter of both, and it doesn't help that they're about characters I don't care about at all. WaHH, though, does have a lot more potential than the others for being both engaging and illuminating (in regards to the lives of the inhabitants of Gensokyo), and even if ZUN doesn't give Kasen an in-game appearance, there's always music CDs. I just don't think ZUN will be able to resist giving her a theme.
So basically, Kasen deserves a theme and game appearance because you like WaHH, whereas the three fairies didn't because you don't like SaBND. I like all the print media (even CoLA), but I wouldn't say either WaHH or SaBND are particularly "illuminating" to the characters. Both give fun characterizations of characters by showing how their canon personalities act, but neither really develops anyone beyond their main characters. I'm not saying I'd hate seeing Kasen in a game with her own theme, but saying Kasen deserves it because you like how she's handled better than others seems somewhat hypocritical.
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Three Useless Fairies didn't need a game of their own.
Why you gotta be hating Ruro?
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At least the fairies had better helmets than the moon rabbit derp patrol.
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The three fairies didn't deserve a game of their own? I thought they were included in a game primarily because they didn't get much attention. By the same logic, Kasen could very well show up sooner or later. It's actually a good thing the fairies got a game because it means other characters that have appeared exclusively in written works may get the nod. Besides, who's Cirno going to pick a fight with?
Meanwhile, I can think of one character that got two games that were entirely unwarranted, and my personal opinion of guess-who went ridiculously far south because of it.
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Lol, Ruro is hatin', that's a rare sight. It was great that the Three Fairies got their game, I always liked their manga better than most of the other's, including WaHH, and it's not just because of my fairy love, that's a role this forum gave me after all. The Three Fairy mangas actually gave something what I like the most about complex fictional worlds: Lore. Given, it was mainly the focus of the last chapters, but even chapters before those gave lore about the life of its people, while the last chapters of Strange and Bright gave us the maybe the most lore regarding fairies and the border than any other work.
As for the patterns, NO BULLETS, ONLY CURVING LASERS YEEEEEEEEEEAH.
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There will probably be new characters simply because ZUN has stated in interviews that he loves designing new characters. Although I too don't really see much point in him re-using characters for a danmaku game. If it's about giving characters more exposure, he can do that in plenty of other outlets (mangas, gaiden games, etc) anyways, really.
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That said, as for CoLA... ungodly boring...
I will fight you.
And I personally though the Fairy Wars game was a neat idea, connecting the print works to the games in a more direct fashion, even down to Marisa showing up. That said, it's something that should be relegated to the side games.
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CoLA was an incredibly interesting and lore filled read, I loved it!
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At least the fairies had better helmets than the moon rabbit derp patrol.
Soldiers wearing retard helmets do not give me alot of confidence in this army... (http://www.majhost.com/gallery/OwlBear1337/Comix/retard_reisen_mk_ii.png) How do the Lunarians sleep at night knowing their army is a mass selection of special ed rejects?
Oh wait, Yorihime.
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So basically, Kasen deserves a theme and game appearance because you like WaHH, whereas the three fairies didn't because you don't like SaBND. I like all the print media (even CoLA), but I wouldn't say either WaHH or SaBND are particularly "illuminating" to the characters. Both give fun characterizations of characters by showing how their canon personalities act, but neither really develops anyone beyond their main characters. I'm not saying I'd hate seeing Kasen in a game with her own theme, but saying Kasen deserves it because you like how she's handled better than others seems somewhat hypocritical.
Kasen has an interesting background as a hermit, an intriguing character design, and a relatively new series with only a handful of installments so far. SaBND had more issues than WaHH and did absolutely nothing interesting with them, and WaHH has the potential to do a lot more, even though it hasn't gone that far yet. Neither is particularly illuminating yet, but Kasen has a certain enigmatic air regarding her appearance (namely, her right arm) that the Three Worthless Fairies missed out on.
Am I biased? Well, duh. I don't quite see how that makes me hypocritical, though; doesn't it make perfect sense to want to see your favoured characters more than others?
Why you gotta be hating Ruro?
Look, you can have your slice of life with Three Moronic Fairies whenever you want. I, for one, would like to see more of Kasen punching out criminal spirits with her delicious bandaged right arm. Personal tastes and all.
I honestly remember very little of the details of SaBND. This is probably because nothing interesting ever happened. I do remember really liking Makoto Hirasaka's take on the visuals of Gensokyo and slightly snickering at how the canon design of the SDM's architecture changed from SaBND to SSiB, but apart from that, it was still really dull. Slice-of-life is not what keeps me interested. CoLA is even worse in that regard, and I will never, ever understand why people bother to read it for any reason than it being canon that they should know. I would say I was sorry for not being able to stand boring written works, but that would be lying.
For the record, of all ZUN's written works, it's his stories about Maribel and Renko that interest me most-- they strike just the right balance of adventure and enigma and fun for me. Second place is Inaba2, which was just hilarious.
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"X" character doesn't deserve a game!
"Y" character doesn't deserve a game!
I'm mad because "Z" character got her own game!
What the fuck is this bullshit?
Why are people getting so up in arms about a Touhou character getting a side-game to themselves? Doesn't a certain character getting her own game just mean ZUN thought up a gameplay mechanic/scenario that fit that character? Isn't that a good thing?
I'm just of the opinion that if a certain character can bring something a bit fresh to the Touhou formula, they're fine with getting their own game. Aya brought the photography gameplay, so I'm fine with her having her two games. Cirno brought the bullet freezing, and the three fairies were low enough on the power scale that Cirno could believably fight with them without fans calling bullshit. As such, I see no problem with Cirno having her own game, and this is coming from a guy who hated Cirno until recently (The 9 jokes man...the 9 jokes...!). That's just my view on the subject, anyway.
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Haters gonna hate, etc.
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The fuck is this bullshit?
Why are people getting so up in arms about a Touhou character getting a side-game to themselves? Doesn't a certain character getting her own game just mean ZUN thought up a gameplay mechanic that fit that character? Isn't that a good thing?
You're essentially claiming not to understand that people want their favourite characters to show up again. Why are they not allowed to say as much? ZUN's not going to bring characters on demand, anyway, so they might as well.
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Kasen has an interesting background as a hermit, an intriguing character design, and a relatively new series with only a handful of installments so far. SaBND had more issues than WaHH and did absolutely nothing interesting with them, and WaHH has the potential to do a lot more, even though it hasn't gone that far yet. Neither is particularly illuminating yet, but Kasen has a certain enigmatic air regarding her appearance (namely, her right arm) that the Three Worthless Fairies missed out on.
Am I biased? Well, duh. I don't quite see how that makes me hypocritical, though; doesn't it make perfect sense to want to see your favoured characters more than others?
Look, you can have your slice of life with Three Moronic Fairies whenever you want. I, for one, would like to see more of Kasen punching out criminal spirits with her delicious bandaged right arm. Personal tastes and all.
Why does it make it hypocritical? You yourself said you were getting pretty annoyed with all the Mima fans complaining she isn't coming back. I'm not saying the cases are the same, but note the similarities. Of course we all want to see our favored characters appear more. I personally wanna see more of Yukari, since she's almost undoubtably the character with the most complex motives and mysterious backstory in the series, but I'm content to see others get their time in the sun. And before you say it, Kasen has an entire manga centered around her.
And you're free to dislike the comics; slice of life isn't for everyone (though you could classify Touhou's story as a whole as a cross between that and action), and I admit if you aren't interested specifically in the lore then CoLA would seem really boring. However, some people do like it, like the three fairies, and had a lot of fun with them getting their own game. Speaking of, the game was an extension of one of the manga stories, so if it weren't made an entire arc would have gone unfinished. Maybe at some point Kasen will get a game like that?
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You're essentially claiming not to understand that people want their favourite characters to show up again. Why are they not allowed to say as much? ZUN's not going to bring characters on demand, anyway, so they might as well.
I'm not saying that at all. I can understand why someone would want their favorite character to come back, I have characters I'd love to see come back. What I don't understand is why people are getting mad when different characters get in a game (example: People getting mad about Aya/Cirno getting games). THAT's what bugs me.
Not to mention it's making the thread's atmosphere weird. We're getting a new Touhou game, this should be a happy discussion!
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Why does it make it hypocritical? You yourself said you were getting pretty annoyed with all the Mima fans complaining she isn't coming back. I'm not saying the cases are the same, but note the similarities. Of course we all want to see our favored characters appear more. I personally wanna see more of Yukari, since she's almost undoubtably the character with the most complex motives and mysterious backstory in the series, but I'm content to see others get their time in the sun. And before you say it, Kasen has an entire manga centered around her.
I want to ask how it is possible to want more Yukari, since she's already in PCB, CiLR, IaMP, IN, StB, SaBND, SSiB, CoLA, SWR, SWRS, and SA. But eh. Kasen only has one appearance, so I should be content with that, right? >_> At least the Mima fanboys have a few games to her name. Kasen has the one manga. That's it.
Speaking of, the game was an extension of one of the manga stories, so if it weren't made an entire arc would have gone unfinished. Maybe at some point Kasen will get a game like that?
Totally. She'll be the Extra stage boss when Watatsuki no Yorihime and Watatsuki no Toyohime are the only playable characters.
Actually, that's one of the reasons I like the gaiden games so damn much. They satisfy everyone by bringing back a huge amount of characters with brand-new spellcards. Great stuff. (Unless you're a Yuka fan, I guess.)
Not to mention it's making the thread's atmosphere weird. We're a new Touhou game, this should be a happy discussion!
I like you! Unfortunately, I don't have any more speculation to throw out, since my challenge to hypothesize story links between UFO and 10D wasn't that interesting, apparently.
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Byakuren was sealed together with Mima,
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I want to ask how it is possible to want more Yukari, since she's already in PCB, CiLR, IaMP, IN, StB, SaBND, SSiB, CoLA, SWR, SWRS, and SA. But eh. Kasen only has one appearance, so I should be content with that, right? >_> At least the Mima fanboys have a few games to her name. Kasen has the one manga. That's it.
One manga gives a lot more characterization and screentime than a game. The only thing Kasen doesn't get from an in-game appearance is a theme (which as you said will probably be fixed someday) and a text backstory, which is obvious because the manga is going to give her backstory to us.
As for wanting more Yukari, she's my favorite character! Until ZUN clarifies for certain what she is trying to do (and I know full well this will probably never happen), I'll look forward to seeing her. I thought the small story told from her perspective in Seasonal Dream Vision was fascinating to read, so why shouldn't I want to see more of her?
See? It's that easy to show intense bias and confuse others with it. :P If Shikieiki got tons of appearances, you would still want more, admit it.
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i know exactly what's going to happen in 10D
i'll tell you guys about it next week
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I was somewhat unimpressed with Kasen. That one Manga chapter has left a lot to be desired.
Finally having a character that is a hermit has me wishing for more.
At this point Kasen doesn't feel much like a "real touhou."
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See? It's that easy to show intense bias and confuse others with it. :P If Shikieiki got tons of appearances, you would still want more, admit it.
Nope. Aya is probably the better example. At this point, I won't whine if she doesn't get any more appearances, since she's already got a bunch under her belt. It's called 'being reasonable'. People who can possibly want to see more Yukari after she's been in almost every entry in the Touhou series are not practicing that. >__>
At this point Kasen doesn't feel much like a "real touhou."
Eh, none of them feel quite 'real' until later. The UFO characters were criticized left and right until they were accepted as part of the setting alongside everyone else, to use the most recent example. That's not really a problem.
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Being reasonable is different from wanting more. Patchouli has had a decent number of appearances and is fairly well-fleshed-out in canon, but that doesn't stop me from wanting to see more of her.
Do I think she needs to appear more? No, not really. But I certainly would like to see my favorite character again.
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Being reasonable is different from wanting more. Patchouli has had a decent number of appearances and is fairly well-fleshed-out in canon, but that doesn't stop me from wanting to see more of her.
Do I think she needs to appear more? No, not really. But I certainly would like to see my favorite character again.
I know that none of my favourite characters will ever come back, so I've pretty much stopped wanting to see more of them, since I don't like exerting effort towards pointless endeavours. /shrug
If they do ever come back, it'll be an unasked-for, wonderful surprise. But liking unpopular characters is a great way to stop caring about returning characters. Because it's not going to happen with Shikieiki or Yumemi, ever. :S
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Nope. Aya is probably the better example. At this point, I won't whine if she doesn't get any more appearances, since she's already got a bunch under her belt. It's called 'being reasonable'. People who can possibly want to see more Yukari after she's been in almost every entry in the Touhou series are not practicing that. >__>
I know I'm biased, but like I said, Yukari's backstory is fascinating to me and I would love to see more about her. She hasn't appeared since SA (you can't really call most appearances in Soku "appearances" since they had to be imported from SWR), and since she's probably as major a character as you can get without being a main, I wouldn't say another appearance in the not too distant future would be unreasonable to expect. At the same time, like I said I'm more than willing to see other characters take the spotlight. :S To be honest I'm not even sure what we're arguing about anymore, so let's drop it. In the end it's all about wants, and I certainly don't expect Yukari to appear in Ten Desires, so I'mma stop talking about this here.
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I'm actually kind of expecting cameos to appear regardless, so maybe we will get something on this matter anyways. (like story endings or after fights or what not.)
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Being reasonable is different from wanting more. Patchouli has had a decent number of appearances and is fairly well-fleshed-out in canon, but that doesn't stop me from wanting to see more of her.
Do I think she needs to appear more? No, not really. But I certainly would like to see my favorite character again.
I think the more fundamental difference is between to want to see more of a character, and to demand to see more of a character.
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I honestly wouldn't mind just one new character. I bet she would look something like this (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/zunteachesdrawingbetter.jpg/)
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Actually the old touhou template is a bit outdated. Touhous don't necessarily need headgear or even parasols anymore (see Parsee, Byakuren, Nue).
The new gimmick is for every touhou to be holding some kind of item!
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Holding a hat.
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Their hats should have their own hats.
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Their hats should have their own hats.
Double hats
all the wayyyyyy
across the skyyyyyyyyy
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Oh boy, first it was pages of Mima now we are over to Kasen? Nobody can predict ZUN's mind. Nobody was expecting Fairy Wars. Everybody was speculating his ass off for touhou 13 and ZUN smacks people with 12.8.
I wouldn't be surprised if ZUN surprises us with the full version of 10D. Too bad we have to wait few more months for that.
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Their hats should have their own hats.
SOILERS: every hatted touhou is like this, but the lower-layered hats are small enough to be completely covered and fool us all into thinking that there is only one
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SOILERS: every hatted touhou is like this, but the lower-layered hats are small enough to be completely covered and fool us all into thinking that there is only one
Actually, there are hats even blow those hats, and so forth.
Infinite recursion.
FRACTAL HATS!
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The new gimmick is for every touhou to be holding some kind of item!
UFO wasn't enough for you?
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Actually, there are hats even blow those hats, and so forth.
Infinite recursion.
FRACTAL HATS!
Beyond the Impossible Sign; 「Infinite Mercury Infected Haberdashery of Pascal Pressure of Quark Micro Infrastructure to the MAX」
:getdown:
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I hope my computer is upgraded when ZUN released it. I want to play it without any problems 'cause I can't even play th11-12.8 without any lags
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FRACTAL HATS!
Frats?
In any case, regarding the discussion about returning characters...I'd actually rather not see old characters return as NPCs in the main games. The main games have always been there to introduce a new batch of characters into the series, and to have an old character return to fill in a slot a new character could have occupied feels kind of like we're being gypped at this point. That's what the decimal games are for; sometimes they'll add a new character or two (Suika, Tenshi, Iku, Hatate), but most of the cast will be returning characters who get their backgrounds fleshed out a bit more.
In addition, some characters not being as fleshed out as others will, for better or worse, just give the fandom more freedom to make their own interpretations of a character. Using Flandre as an example (only because she's one of my favorite characters and I've talked about bringing her back before), it's entirely possible my interpretation of her would be completely contrary to what ZUN imagined and, being the strict canon-follower I am, I'd have to drop or at the very least change my interpretation of her to suit ZUN's new information.
tl;dr, main games are for adding new characters, and the fans/decimal games/print works can flesh out the rest.
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One thing I really liked about SA was how the many different shottypes led to many different sets of dialogue and endings, giving both the new characters more chances to establish themselves as well as giving the old characters chosen for youkai partners the chance to flesh themselves out. Three-way dialogues can also show things two-way-dialogues can't, and especially showing the interaction of the new characters with a larger set of old characters than in the other games.
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For me, Fairy Wars was a great treat. I mean, my favorite character who doesn't have a name, theme, lines, story have appeared again!
By the way, so how will we call Ten Desires? TD or 10D?
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I wish ZUN uses the cool old bombing sequence like the one on Imperishable Night for Ten Desires
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a friend found this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms
so if zun based the game somewhat on that concept
there must be 4 extra stages
for each character??
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a friend found this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spiritual_realms
so if zun based the game somewhat on that concept
there must be 4 extra stages
for each character??
Why would you think of extra stages, if there is the much more likely stage 4 gimmick to be had? If IN had two different bosses and SA pretty much had six i wouldn't be a surprise if stage 4 somehow had four different bosses this time or the four playables dueling it out against each other.
Predicting:
Stage 1: Hunger (Yuyuko is back!)
Stage 2: Animality
Stage 3: Arrogance
Stage 4: Four Noble Realms (as said above)
Stage 5: Humanity (because stage 5 bosses tend to be humans that turn playable in later games, maybe?)
Stage 6: Heaven
Stage EX: Hell
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Why would you think of extra stages, if there is the much more likely stage 4 gimmick to be had? If IN had two different bosses and SA pretty much had six i wouldn't be a surprise if stage 4 somehow had four different bosses this time or the four playables dueling it out against each other.
Stage 4: Four Noble Realms (as said above)
Learning (Truth through outside sources): Vs. Marisa
Realization (Truth through internal perceptions): Vs. Reimu
Bodhisattvahood (Aspires for enlightenment through helping others): Vs. Youmu
Buddhahood (Freedom from delusion, suffering, and anger): Vs. Sanae
I honestly wouldn't mind just one new character. I bet she would look something like this (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/zunteachesdrawingbetter.jpg/)
I was surprised to find someone made a new one of these, but I honestly shouldn't have been since the last one already got turned into Satori.
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I was surprised to find someone made a new one of these, but I honestly shouldn't have been since the last one already got turned into Satori.
That one was turned into Hatate..... :V
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If you think about it, this game could be much bigger than the other games, as Zun is putting back spell practice, we'll most likely have last words, and considering Zun worked on small projects like fairy wars between, he possibly put more time on ten desires?
I'd love to see a phantasm stage along with the spell practice anyways : P
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I wish ZUN uses the cool old bombing sequence like the one on Imperishable Night for Ten Desires
Old bombing sequence?
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Predicting:
Stage 1: Hunger (Yuyuko is back!)
Stage 2: Animality
Stage 3: Arrogance
Stage 4: Four Noble Realms (as said above)
Stage 5: Humanity (because stage 5 bosses tend to be humans that turn playable in later games, maybe?)
Stage 6: Heaven
Stage EX: Hell
. . . And which of these a cemetery would belong to ?
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I wish ZUN uses the cool old bombing sequence like the one on Imperishable Night for Ten Desires
Ugh, really? Nothing in IN had any feeling at all. Everything is just HOLY SHIT RANDOM FLASHING THING! I'M NOT EVEN QUITE SURE WHAT IT IS! ENEMIES ARE DEAD. There's no personality to any of them. Even PCB's bombs were better.
I know I'd like to see Duplex Barrier again in this new style.
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HOLY SHIT RANDOM FLASHING THING! I'M NOT EVEN QUITE SURE WHAT IT IS! ENEMIES ARE DEAD.
oh my god I want this to play before bosses
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That would be pretty awesome yes but isn't it a little early to say that the enemies are dead? Just before a boss?
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Bombs do not need personality. They're bombs. They explode. It's what they do.
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it's boring
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drake wants some cheez whiz with that bomb
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I don't know, I definitely liked the portraits when bombing in the old games.
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Bombs do not need personality. They're bombs. They explode. It's what they do.
Touhou 13 will have an explosives tsukumogami.
You heard it here first, folks!
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it's boring
But still better than a lot of bombs with personallty that doesn't do shit. But really, you say the bombs were bland in IN but how about MoF eh? :V
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MoF's bombs looked better but were obviously even less characteristic. Don't like them either.
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In Touhou 13 bombs will require an irritating sequence of keys to activate and bring up a short minigame which will determine the damage output. And we'll have animated character portraits!
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I know I'd like to see Duplex Barrier again in this new style.
I like this idea. Evil sealing circle for that matter too.
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MoF's bombs looked better but were obviously even less characteristic. Don't like them either.
You don't expect ZUN to make bombs at the scale I did for my Dance Contest char I hope.
Then again UFO bombs had more feeling you were blasting the shit out of girls. So I can understand Drake. Then again, Reimu's counterbomb was pretty flashy and noticeable.
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It was flashy yeah, but you didn't really have any idea what was going on. There were just explosions and sounds followed by everything dying and two bombs being gone :C
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I just want Master Spark to still be there. I love my big-ass laz0r bomb.
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MoF's bombs looked better but were obviously even less characteristic. Don't like them either.
I liked them. They did a lot of damage and there was a lot of them. :V
Seriously though, don't mind too much how a bomb looks as long as it serves the purpose. Blow stuff up and save me from dying. Not useless stuff like most in SA.
Having bad ass animations would be awesome though. Kinda like in DDP using a bomb combined with a fully powered laser causes a huge laser to appear that melts everything away! A great example of a good ZUN bomb was SanaeB's. It dealt nice damage, took a while to play out leaving you plenty of time nab UFO's, think about stuff and position yourself. I do of course like the demo version better.
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I think I'm turned off by uncharacteristic bombs because they are literally supposed to be Spell Cards. By definition Spell Cards are supposed to represent a part of the user, and having them treated more as bombs than individual representations of power and beauty seems out of place for me.
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As for wanting more Yukari, she's my favorite character!
We're more similar than we think! She's mine too.
(I thought Gengetu was your favorite)
Also, I need to post this:
(http://img2.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/c331ecbc4444913d9ce1a773b1cf1f651298908923_full.jpg) (http://img2.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/c331ecbc4444913d9ce1a773b1cf1f651298908923_full.jpg)
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No one ever really needs to post demotivational posters.
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We're more similar than we think! She's mine too.
(I thought Gengetu was your favorite)
Also, I need to post this:
(http://img2.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/c331ecbc4444913d9ce1a773b1cf1f651298908923_full.jpg) (http://img2.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/c331ecbc4444913d9ce1a773b1cf1f651298908923_full.jpg)
I want a life
Five bucks says those little green blue red things act like shot changers. One gives split shots, one gives wave, one gives something else. I dont fucking know
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I want a life
Five bucks says those little green blue red things act like shot changers. One gives split shots, one gives wave, one gives something else. I dont fucking know
Either that or Reimu's going Mahou Shoujo on us and those are her obligatory sidekicks.
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No one ever really needs to post demotivational posters.
How do you know for sure? Maybe posting that demotivator was the only way he could have avoided a tragic yuri accident.
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How do you know for sure? Maybe posting that demotivator was the only way he could have avoided a tragic yuri accident.
By posting it, Touhou 13 has been save for all of us. And what do we do? We sit safe in our houses thankless for the people who have worked so hard to keep Touhou safe for all! Truly, we are the demotivated!
Also, I'm not sure about shot changers. Seems very un-Touhou IMO. I still think they have something to do with the odd skull meter. Or health/bomb/whatever else pieces like other people have said.
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Maybe posting that demotivator was the only way he could have avoided a tragic yuri accident.
Doubtful. The only surefire way I know of preventing a tragic Yuri accident is to go back in time and stop him from building that shit on alcatraz.
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We're more similar than we think! She's mine too.
(I thought Gengetu was your favorite)
Also, I need to post this:
(http://img2.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/c331ecbc4444913d9ce1a773b1cf1f651298908923_full.jpg) (http://img2.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/c331ecbc4444913d9ce1a773b1cf1f651298908923_full.jpg)
Huh. I never expected see my picture here. :3
I'll take it you visit AMP as well?
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Huh. I never expected see my picture here. :3
I'll take it you visit AMP as well?
oh
my
fucking
god
ANOTHER KIPPY
HAI OTHER ME
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oh
my
fucking
god
ANOTHER KIPPY
HAI OTHER ME
Wait... what... um..... well.....
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huh.........................................
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Why hello there fellow being.
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Also, I'm not sure about shot changers. Seems very un-Touhou IMO. I still think they have something to do with the odd skull meter. Or health/bomb/whatever else pieces like other people have said.
Maybe they are pickups that you collect to unleash that "hyper" thing shown in the pictures. The green representing bombs, the red for life and the blue for score. Then when you kill stuff with those "hypers" you get drops dependant on what kind of hyper is active.
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Do remember: I was tired as fuck when I posted about the shot changers.
And I was also playing Gradius.
Also, another tired post: Maybe those spirits wont actually be in the game, i.e. you dont kill them. Maybe they replace things like Reimu's orb, And each time you pick up a red one blue one or blue ones change the color/attributes of said orbs? Kinda like their pick ups.
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You can't tell me that you can look at that title screen and say that her sleeves are not attached.
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Sure I can.
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Sure I can.
Well, you'd be wrong. QED.
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I think I'll wait for the actual game to come out rather than trust a drastically reduced screenshot.
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(http://i54.tinypic.com/214e1qe.jpg)
Does no one see the area between the sleeve and her hair/shirt that's the exact same color as her hand and face?
They are detached, end of story.
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While I personally believe the sleeves are detached, I posit that it makes no difference if they are or aren't attached in the official art...
It is the fanart where it truly matters!
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Does no one see the area between the sleeve and her hair/shirt that's the exact same color as her hand and face?
They are detached, end of story.
I see a seam and potential shading due to the fact that the top of her sleeves are comically large.
Inconclusive.
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Regardless, detached sleeves are impractical, incredibly stupid, and so anime that it physically causes me pain, so it barely matters who's right, because Touhou and everything Touhou has ever done for this world is atrocious and shameful.
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Regardless, detached sleeves are impractical, incredibly stupid, and so anime that it physically causes me pain, so it barely matters who's right, because Touhou and everything Touhou has ever done for this world is atrocious and shameful.
I do hope you're being sarcastic. :derp:
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Forget her frikken sleeves. Somebody explain me why Reimu has such long hair.
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Forget her frikken sleeves. Somebody explain me why Reimu has such long hair.
Hair grows :V
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I do hope you're being sarcastic. :derp:
It's Mint :V
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Fuckin' detached sleeves, takin' our jobs.
As for her hair, my main question is why her tails are so damn long but the rest of her hair is its usual length. Seems like a really weird decision to me.
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Sometimes a girl just wants to change her look.
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Forget her frikken sleeves. Somebody explain me why Reimu has such long hair.
Ever taken a look at PC 98 Reimu?
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Who the fuck cares :V
Artists will know how to change her look anyway
I know I will
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Fuckin' detached sleeves, takin' our jobs.
As for her hair, my main question is why her tails are so damn long but the rest of her hair is its usual length. Seems like a really weird decision to me.
Seems shorter (especially in the back) to me, which makes the tails look really large
I'm guessing if she had her UFO hair they'd look more or less normal
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Forget whether her sleeves are attached or not. Everyone will draw them detached, anyway. :V
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Regardless, detached sleeves are impractical, incredibly stupid, and so anime that it physically causes me pain
my god ilu letty
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Let's talk about the patterns.
I wonder if they're going to be elaborate like EoSD, UFO, or if they're just going to be simple and rough like SA's.
I also wonder about the shot types. I look forward to seeing what kind of shot Sanae A will have...
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. . . And which of these a cemetery would belong to ?
Coming back at this a bit late, but...
As the cemetery is obviously Stage 1 and I put Hunger first I'd guess a Hungry Ghost / Preta / Gaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaki) would fit. These creatures were already mentioned in some of Youmu's Spell Cards in PCB, so they are not fully out of the world, right?
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I'm pretty sure only the final two stages have to be directly related to a graveyard.
I mean come on, Half of EoSD was outside the mansion.
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I'm pretty sure only the final two stages have to be directly related to a graveyard.
I mean come on, Half of EoSD was outside the mansion.
yeah, typically the final boss's domain is saved for the last two stages (SDM is the only Windows exception with the last three stages)
that said, though, we don't even know if the final boss's domain will be a graveyard :V
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I love her new hair.
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Remember Sanae's crazy hair in
SA Extra?
I laughed so hard~
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How do you know for sure? Maybe posting that demotivator was the only way he could have avoided a tragic yuri accident.
Doubtful. The only surefire way I know of preventing a tragic Yuri accident is to go back in time and stop him from building that shit on alcatraz.
Tragic yuri accidents can be prevented. It's more a question of willpower than resources. Unfortunately, not everyone can see them coming. There are a few telltales signs to watch out for; they could save your life.
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What the heck is a tragic yuri accident?
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What the heck is a tragic yuri accident?
Letty.
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Letty.
I don't get it.
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What the heck is a tragic yuri accident?
A tragic yuri accident can strike anywhere, anytime. Look for these symptoms:
Headaches
Slurred speech
Earlobes appear to be vibrating, but are not
Repeated compulsion to snap goheis
Itchy gums
If you or anyone you know exhibits these symptoms, alert a health care professional and your local law enforcement.
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I think the sleeves may be attached because a certain someone found out a certain someone else had a thing for the pits.
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A tragic yuri accident can strike anywhere, anytime. Look for these symptoms:
Headaches
Slurred speech
Earlobes appear to be vibrating, but are not
Repeated compulsion to snap goheis
Itchy gums
If you or anyone you know exhibits these symptoms, alert a health care professional and your local law enforcement.
This was the only one I could find. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=app_EfFWAls)
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(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6255/goodgirls.th.jpg) (http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6255/goodgirls.jpg)
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(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6255/goodgirls.th.jpg) (http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6255/goodgirls.jpg)
What's the source on this?
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It's several years old. Even if I did once know, I don't anymore.
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Marisa isn't a good girl.
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I'm pretty sure only the final two stages have to be directly related to a graveyard.
I mean come on, Half of EoSD was outside the mansion.
I'm pretty sure stage one is a graveyard-esque place.
(http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201102/28/42/e0088742_7264511.jpg)
No idea where I'm getting that idea from, though. :V
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WAIT, if that's Stage 1
and his score is 4,000,000
but the Point Value is 16K
do I detect...
A GIMMICKY SCORING SYSTEM?
*Mister Sanity is shot
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I'm pretty sure stage one is a graveyard-esque place.
(http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201102/28/42/e0088742_7264511.jpg)
No idea where I'm getting that idea from, though. :V
Pattern looks easy and it reminds me of Satori's nonspells
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Pattern looks easy and it reminds me of Satori's nonspells
Large fairies come in from the sides at angles of 0 and 180?. They fire bullets in a single direction the angle of which changes linearly, clockwise for the one coming from the left and counterclockwise for the one coming from the right. The fairies are faster than the bullets, but it is not unlikely that the bullets accelerate further.
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(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4096/125767977654.th.jpg) (http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4096/125767977654.jpg)
No clue on the source, but here's the other half of the page just in case.
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(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4096/125767977654.th.jpg) (http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4096/125767977654.jpg)
No clue on the source, but here's the other half of the page just in case.
You know
I fucking love you man
<3
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Oh that Tewi. She so crazy.
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Um yeah if anyone fins source on that please do not hesitate to post source because damn :3
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Um yeah if anyone fins source on that please do not hesitate to post source because damn :3
The fast-thinkin' folks at Poosh says it's from "Cold-Afflicted Marisa".
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The fast-thinkin' folks at Poosh says it's from "Cold-Afflicted Marisa".
I can confirm that.
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[tso]Sorry no direct download links, period[/tso]
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I can confirm that.
Seconfirming here. The 4koma section was quite funny.
UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE
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I wonder... Do you think we can get this thread locked from having 1000 posts before the game actually gets released? :V
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I wonder... Do you think we can get this thread locked from having 1000 posts before the game actually gets released? :V
LETS DO IT
LEEROOOOOOOOOOY
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Please don't spam up this thread just to hit 1,000.
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I bet it will anyway, minus the spam. Either that, or you could consider most of the thread spam, considering I think we got mostly derailed quite a while ago.
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Aww fine.
But still, My theory of shot changers stands. I would think that something like that would be implemented in touhou one way or another.
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I'm doubting the hypers function.... :wat:
In the first picture, Marisa's score is 0.256m , but in the second picture it's 5m...
Just being pessimistic here!~
edit: herp derp.
Noticed the similarity between non-hyper Marisa pic and Reimu dialogue pic. lololol, disregard.
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so what are the thoughts regarding the possible number of shot types? it would be neat if each character got two (crosses fingers for marissiles shot type) but that would bring it up to a record-breaking eight shot types in one game. hmmm
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Didn't Imperishable Night also have eight shot types?
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Didn't Imperishable Night also have eight shot types?
ahh, yeah that's right. i didn't even think of it that way, but yes it did. well then, here's hoping for a nice variety to choose from
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All things considered, it'll probably be 8. With four characters, that leaves plenty open for a couple of shot types. Plus, the number of different kinds has consistently been 6 or greater since EoSD, which only had 4.
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I'd personally like two per character, if only because I don't want to not play someone just because I don't like the single shot-type they're stuck with.
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I've also wanted the option of choosing what bomb I want to use and what shot type. Usually (this is just from my small amount of experience) You'd get a really good shot, But a decent to bad bomb.
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I've also wanted the option of choosing what bomb I want to use and what shot type. Usually (this is just from my small amount of experience) You'd get a really good shot, But a decent to bad bomb.
That made me think: Oh gosh, if EoSD MarisaA had Master Spark. Strongest shot type with strongest bomb? Everyone would ignore the other characters / shot types then.
It'd be epic though. :V
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That made me think: Oh gosh, if EoSD MarisaA had Master Spark. Strongest shot type with strongest bomb? Everyone would ignore the other characters / shot types then.
It'd be epic though. :V
sadly that was the exact reason for my post.
Who needs attention when you got a laser shooting loli?
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That made me think: Oh gosh, if EoSD MarisaA had Master Spark. Strongest shot type with strongest bomb? Everyone would ignore the other characters / shot types then.
It'd be epic though. :V
Customize your character! let's give her Marisa's speed, Reimu's hitbox, Sakuya's grazebox, UFO Reimu A's bomb, and MoF Reimu B's shot
THE ULTIMATE LOLI
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Please do not refer to these characters as lolis. Thank you.
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Customize your character! let's give her Marisa's speed, Reimu's hitbox, Sakuya's grazebox, UFO Reimu A's bomb, and MoF Reimu B's shot
THE ULTIMATE LOLI
Not enough green hair
mmm
i looooves me some green hair.
Anywaaays, Back on topic, When was the release date again? And can a mod or TC edit in all valuable information about the game into the first post? I dont wanna have to look through a whole topic just for one picture.
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Not enough green hair
mmm
i looooves me some green hair.
And a bucket.
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And a bucket.
And an umbrella, and a cannon arm, thing, to MASTUH SPARK!!!
Best. Marisa. Ever.
I'd play it.
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Reitaisai is this Sunday.
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Reitaisai is this Sunday.
Longest week ever.
I can't stop talking about Reitaisai.
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So what other game releases will be this Reitasai?
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So what other game releases will be this Reitasai?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
Not that I am looking forward to that.. but it's the only thing I found, and can share
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
Oh holy agaughauhgauhguahgu
Why did I not know about this sooner? This is awesome.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
Not that I am looking forward to that.. but it's the only thing I found, and can share
Wouldn't mind trying it simply so I could cover 200 yojana in one slash.
Edit: Wait...
Suwackers is playable
Fer Chrissakes! Take my money!
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Oh my.... I can't wait for the cover art to be released!!!
We need to get guessing on the final boss!
<in before Kasen Ibara!> :3
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Hey, that's the game by the makers of Magical Battle Arena.
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<in before Kasen Ibara!> :3
More like "in long after", but yeah, that'd be a very pleasant surprise.
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Hey, that's the game by the makers of Magical Battle Arena.
What a good game.
Edit: Except for the controls. Need some ZOE controls.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
:o :o :o :o whoa shit
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
Oh, another game by Area/ZERO, which also released Touhou Skyfight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0WL_opiecg)....
Seriously. I fell in love with Skyfight, yet SkyArena makes it look like a kid's game.....
This is now my second most anticipated (doujin) game right now. 3-D Touhou fighting game, with Tales-like Hi-Ougis (spellcards) ?!??!?! :getdown:
I just came a little.....
(I am loving the voices so much....)
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I am suddenly looking forward to this Sunday that little bit more.
Yay for doujin games!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
asdf
asdf
asdf
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
Not that I am looking forward to that.. but it's the only thing I found, and can share
What kind of computer can HANDLE that?!
Oh and the voices
THE VOICES
YESSSSS
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What kind of computer can HANDLE that?!
It doesn't look like it would be that taxing on a computer. It's not like the models or attacks are super-detailed or anything. Most computers can run RTS's pretty well, even Starcraft II so I don't really think this would be a problem at all.
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It doesn't look like it would be that taxing on a computer. It's not like the models or attacks are super-detailed or anything. Most computers can run RTS's pretty well, even Starcraft II so I don't really think this would be a problem at all.
This is not about graphics or processing power, this is about AWESOME. BV
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This is not about graphics or processing power, this is about AWESOME. BV
my computers a vista that cant handle all the awesome
Should I dump awesomesauce into my harddrive to fix this?
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my computers a vista that cant handle all the awesome
Should I dump awesomesauce into my harddrive to fix this?
Yeah. At the very least upgrade to 7, complete with a clean install (and a format of the drive) to really speed up your system.
Next up, upgrade RAM, hard drive, and (if applicable) CPU, graphics card, etc.
On another note, this doujin game indeed looks nice. It also doesn't look that demanding, and might even run on my lowly x201 (damn you Intel graphics) provided that it uses DirectX (OpenGL games, even lowly ones such as Minecraft, fail miserably) and doesn't rely too much on particles (well, looks like it does, so I guess it's time to lower settings!)
And YES, VOICES!!! :getdown:
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Windows 7 is barely any faster than Vista (if at all). Upgrade your hardware instead.
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Customize your character! let's give her Marisa's speed, Reimu's hitbox, Sakuya's grazebox, UFO Reimu A's bomb, and MoF Reimu B's shot
THE ULTIMATE LOLI
MoF MarisaB shot power + MoF ReimuC option shot speed and firerate + IN Yuyuko shot coverage (+ SA ReimuC if you want movespeed) + EoSD MarisaB bomb's power (or arguably SoEW ReimuC's, which hurts like a hadouken from SF1) + SA ReimuA's bomb invulnerability time = ultimate survival loli based on what the past games had :p (more survival if you want to add Youmu's charge attack from PoFV or Cirno's freeze in GFW -- Aya's camera takes a bit of time to refill, you would be better off using Youmu's lvl 1 charge or shooting or charging ice; let's not forget Marisa's chargeup speed too and Tewi's autobomb). Before I forget, shots would level up like they do in GFW.
meanwhile..
PoDD Elly's shot power + SA ReimuB option firerate + MoF MarisaC option range + PoDD Elly/PoFV Youmu shot coverage + PoFV Yuka / PoDD Elly's movespeed + EoSD ReimuB's bomb power and invulnerability time + MoF/SA's powerup based bombing = ultimate challenge loli (once again, based on what the games have given so far)
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PoDD Elly
Elly is a secret character in PoDD?
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Elly is a secret character in PoDD?
sorry about that, I only remember Ellen because she gives you some.. how much points did she give me if she can beat Yumemi?
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Windows 7 is barely any faster than Vista (if at all). Upgrade your hardware instead.
Downgrade to XP if your computer is too slow.
If you have enough money, I suggest you invest in a hard drive with 7200 rpm or more.
If your computer is still slow, then you should consider saving for a new box~
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Windows 7 is barely any faster than Vista (if at all). Upgrade your hardware instead.
Yeah, but 7 doesn't have the stupid index system that makes Vista slower and slower every time you boot it.
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Yeah, but 7 doesn't have the stupid index system that makes Vista slower and slower every time you boot it.
It also adds a couple of pointless annoyances that Vista doesn't have that can make just switching between windows rather more annoying. Especially when you accidentally CLOSE a window while trying to select it because of the stupid menu that comes up when your cursor isn't COMPLETELY still while clicking <.<
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
Not that I am looking forward to that.. but it's the only thing I found, and can share
First observation: Magical Battle Arena with Touhou Girls
First thought: Ho shit that could be aweso--
Second observation: They look like they all play the same
Second thought: ... :ohdear:
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Windows 7 is barely any faster than Vista (if at all). Upgrade your hardware instead.
Having used both OSes, this is partly true, hence why I also recommended a format and clean install to eradicate all the bloatware that lags most Windows systems. I did this on a Vista-loaded Inspiron when 7 came out and it worked much better after said procedure, even with Aero fully loaded.
It also adds a couple of pointless annoyances that Vista doesn't have that can make just switching between windows rather more annoying. Especially when you accidentally CLOSE a window while trying to select it because of the stupid menu that comes up when your cursor isn't COMPLETELY still while clicking <.<
Never had that issue, even in Aero mode with all the gimmicks enabled. Other than UAC and the missing Classic Start Menu (the one thing Vista did better), 7 really isn't that annoying IMO.
Downgrade to XP if your computer is too slow.
If you have enough money, I suggest you invest in a hard drive with 7200 rpm or more.
If your computer is still slow, then you should consider saving for a new box~
XP is still good, but expect a bunch of legacy peripheral issues (as was the case when I tried making a 7-XP-Fedora boot this week). Alternatively, go Mac or Linux and use Windows in a VM.
Solid-state drives (SSDs) are significantly better for your money if you don't need that much space. I have used dual Crucial M225s in my MacBook Pro, and it's very hard to look back at slower mechanical drives.
If disk space is more important, try looking for a higher-capacity 7200RPM drive (higher capacities = higher speeds in hard drives), or (for PC laptops) a 500GB Seagate Momentus XT (has a bit of SSD cache to speed up operations).
I consider new systems as a last resort. Most people's computers should be plenty for their needs for at least 2 years.
MoF MarisaB shot power + MoF ReimuC option shot speed and firerate + IN Yuyuko shot coverage (+ SA ReimuC if you want movespeed) + EoSD MarisaB bomb's power (or arguably SoEW ReimuC's, which hurts like a hadouken from SF1) + SA ReimuA's bomb invulnerability time = ultimate survival loli based on what the past games had :p (more survival if you want to add Youmu's charge attack from PoFV or Cirno's freeze in GFW -- Aya's camera takes a bit of time to refill, you would be better off using Youmu's lvl 1 charge or shooting or charging ice; let's not forget Marisa's chargeup speed too and Tewi's autobomb). Before I forget, shots would level up like they do in GFW.
meanwhile..
PoDD Elly's shot power + SA ReimuB option firerate + MoF MarisaC option range + PoDD Elly/PoFV Youmu shot coverage + PoFV Yuka / PoDD Elly's movespeed + EoSD ReimuB's bomb power and invulnerability time + MoF/SA's powerup based bombing = ultimate challenge loli (once again, based on what the games have given so far)
All of a sudden I think Touhou games (or fangames, at least) should implement a customization system. Problem with this is that it will probably lead to trade requests, item sets, idle/trade servers, and a bazillion hats that make Touhou even more similar to Trade Fortress 2.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
Not that I am looking forward to that.. but it's the only thing I found, and can share
Oh look another game I can't play.
I would seriously play this though...if I could turn the voices off.
Woman I said shoot, not run your mouth.
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Out of curiosity, was there a thread like this back when UFO was first announced? How was it like when the demo was released and some of the characters were revealed?
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0. Everyone tries Sanae first
1. Ohhhh that's what the low-res screenshot was (Nazrin)
2. WHAT THE HOLY HELL TINY TINY CLEVER COMMANDER
3. Forgettable stage 2
4. BROFIST
5. BROFIST
6. ALSO BROFIST
7. TINY TINY CLEVER COMMANDER AGAIN
8. UFO catching rage begins
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Can't wait to experience the hair-ripping frustration again. (ノ^_^)ノ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
Woah. This is just.. this is a must get.
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0. Everyone tries Sanae first
1. Ohhhh that's what the low-res screenshot was (Nazrin)
2. WHAT THE HOLY HELL TINY TINY CLEVER COMMANDER
3. Forgettable stage 2
4. BROFIST
5. BROFIST
6. ALSO BROFIST
7. TINY TINY CLEVER COMMANDER AGAIN
8. UFO catching rage begins
Thanks!
Hey, this forum doesn't require you to have at least 16 characters in your post!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
Awesome, and it will be released tomorrow. Nice!
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0. Everyone tries Sanae first
1. Ohhhh that's what the low-res screenshot was (Nazrin)
2. WHAT THE HOLY HELL TINY TINY CLEVER COMMANDER
3. Forgettable stage 2
4. BROFIST
5. BROFIST
6. ALSO BROFIST
7. TINY TINY CLEVER COMMANDER AGAIN
8. UFO catching rage begins
UFO in a nutshell.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fSZqkJM4g
I'd just like to say that Touhou 13 is no longer my most-anticipated release.
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Am I the only one not expecting concentrated jesus from that game?
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Am I the only one not expecting concentrated jesus from that game?
yo
i mean it looks neat and all, but honestly the video makes it seem more like "touhous spin in circles and punch each other with fireworks"
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3. Forgettable stage 2
Explain the pre-release obsession with Kogasa then.
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I meant the actual stage. And the music I guess, don't remember it being too popular.
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If that Touhou MBA game plays anything like MBA, then it's going to get pretty mediocre once you get past its gimmicks.
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Explain the pre-release obsession with Kogasa then.
Legs.
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I meant the actual stage. And the music I guess, don't remember it being too popular.
I remember you being quite enthusiastic about the Captain and her theme.
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I think this was more about hype from the demo, rather than the full version. Everyone was all into giant anchors and CAPTAIN MURASA MINAMITSU after the full release.
I think brofist won over more, though.
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I think this was more about hype from the demo, rather than the full version. Everyone was all into giant anchors and CAPTAIN MURASA MINAMITSU after the full release.
I know brofist won over more, though.
Cant beat the god damned brofist
its a fist
FOR A FACE
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Of course it did. The first two stages of UFO were fun but pretty standard fare. Naturally, the first stage to use something very new would get the most attention.
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yo
i mean it looks neat and all, but honestly the video makes it seem more like "touhous spin in circles and punch each other with fireworks"
This, but I'd still like to try it anyway, so I have something to fall back on after getting blasted in TD.
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All right. Time for another postulation on background on Ten Desires.
There is a religious practice in Japan that is called "Shugendo". It is a mixture of "Japanese Native Faith" (TH10), "Shinto / Taoism" (Reimu), "Buddism" (TH12) combined together, became popular during Heian period.
The principle of this religion, as far as I understand, is to combine the principle of Taoism / Shintoism (Reimu) and the reincarnation/enlightenment (TH12) concept through reverence, worship and discipline in the mountain (TH10). The followers of Shugendo is called Yamabushi(山伏), or "one who worships the mountains", whom are known in the folk legends of Japan as those who have powers to "summon gods and holy spirits" to exorcise evil spirits (youkais) (or another method is to make shikigamis from the defeated evil spirits to fight another evil spirits, which will explained further later). These Yamabushis, like their name suggests, dwells on the mountains and seek for oneness of man and nature (Japanese Druidism of the sorts).
A man who is the most famous, who is also the founder of Shugendo, was called En no Ozuno (役小角) / En no Gyoja (役行者) , venerated as Jinbenbodaisatsu (神變大菩薩), who has become a subject of legend of Japanese asceticism and mysticism. (as a bonus, he was referenced in Ran's Spell Card in STB (8-7) ), Two of his famous summons (or Shikigami) are simply known as "Zenki" (前鬼) and "Gouki" (後鬼) [For those who remember, this was Ran's Spell card in phantasm, also what Yukari called her crows in SSiB, so it's probably a very generic term as the name Zenki and Gouki's literal meaning suggest). He also had a guardian buddha that only exists in Japan called Jauogongen (藏王權現), who is a representation of Power of Destruction.
The mountain that is highly associated with Shugendo is Mount Yoshino, where it is said that En no Ozuno meditated and disciplined. The place is famous for several things, including the phantasmagoric scenery filled with cherry blossoms as En no Ozuno revered Cherry Blossoms as a symbol of Jauogongen - potential tie in to appearance of Youmu (TH7, PCB) (also liked by many famous historical figures in the future like Toyotomi Hideyoshi). The place is also erected with a temple (金峯山謝), where there's a little shrine in tribute of its Shintoism.
Like many other native faiths and worships other than Shintoism, Shugendo was banned in Meiji era in 1872. After 1945, the revival movement of Shugendo followed, but by that time, it was a modern era where Shugendo is only considered as a gimmick rather than a something to be fully devoted or considered as a religion (a very fitting setting to be entered into Gensokyo).
And thus concludes my own summary of Shugendo, and by reading it, it has a nice tie ins towards something that ZUN will heavily reference in TH13, and potentially summon some characters according to Shugendo legend. Like JoJo, ZUN might reference Zenki (鬼神童子ZENKI), a manga and anime series in 1997, where shikigami Zenki is freed from En no Ozuno (also making an appearance in the series) and does all the anime stuff settings (fighting evil demons despite himself being an evil demon, etc. etc.).
I am still wondering how this ties in with the title Ten Desires, but it probably has to do something with the Buddism part of Shugendo and the ten different levels of enlightenment (from heaven to hell, pretty much).
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That's a nice speculation. Maybe it'll come true, too. Guess we'll find out on Sunday!
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Sunday, Sunday, Sunday! (and Saturday).
Be there for the biggest names in Touhou!
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[tso]save the shitposting for somewhere else[/tso]
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So, how long are the demos? Two, three stages?
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Three stages, and prolly no spell practice yet.
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Hopefully with a 4th wall breaking boss when the demo ends.
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The question is, are we able to view the livestream on niconico and such without hitting limit on number of users?
I just hope they take it easy with the cosplay shows with singing. No offence to people doing their best for reitaisai but last time my ears almost bleeded by some of the singing.
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Why would there be "a 4th wall breaking boss," Savory? Is that based on anything other than your imagination?
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I thought it was common in the demos of the earlier games for the last demo boss to reference it only being a demo for why the player can't go any further?
Or am I misremembering things?
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No, you're right. I distinctly remember in Touhou 3 that Alice just started to break the fourth wall by saying you couldn't continue because it was the end of the demo.
You can read that on the Touhou Wiki
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I think Alice did the same on PCB too.
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Didnt alice do that in PCB?
fakeedit:I think Alice did the same on PCB too.
God dammit stealing my words.
On the topic of the game getting livestreamed, well, thats just it. They livestream from reitaisai? Man oh man I must be behind.
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Reimu: Hehehe! ☆
Elly: Sorry, but you can't go any
further down this road.
Reimu: And why not?
Elly: This is only the trial version
so it's not ready yet.
Reimu: That's a trite answer. (sweating profusely)
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Well I'll be damned.
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It's also happened if you used a continue:
Genji: But, I'm worried that your current
skill may be no match against Mima.
Reimu: What?
Marisa: Kyahaha, he's right!
You've continued
ｘｘ times already!! [ｘｘ = the number of continues the player has used]
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Double digits?
You can continue up to NINETY NINE times?
woah
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I still haven't tried magical arena. I don't like fighting games but the 3d flying nature attack with ranged attacks more than melee kind of replaces the aspects about fighting games I dislike. As for the Touhou version. I think Gar-gar has a point where it looks like they kinda play the same. But I think that's just a trailer fault. I mean I think it's just showcasing all the girl's biggest nukes at maximum range basically. I rekon using your big nukes all the time wouldn't actually be an effective method of playing, and the unique feel of each character is more apparent in a real-game situation. Or so I hope.
"Concentrated Jesus"... Drake's expressions are the best.
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Double digits?
You can continue up to NINETY NINE times?
woah
Actually, SoEW only gives you three continues.
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Speaking of continues, I really hope 10D / TD replaces the stupid "continues = restart the whole damn level" system in MoF/SA/UFO with either the older or GFW systems. That single gripe ruined those games for me - seriously, going through the boring stage and mid-boss again just to "return" to a boss fight (likely on my last life)?! >:(
In an arcade-style game such as Touhou one should be able to pick up where (s)he left off, regardless of penalties. This isn't some home system platformer where levels can be restarted forcefully (and even then they usually have checkpoints).
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Actually, I like the recent format with continues :O. It gives me such a feeling of accomplishment when I am able to finish a game without having to start in the middle as a continue :P. This is my own opinion of course.
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Honestly the main problem people have with the new continue system is that they think they can't clear a single stage from the beginning with only three lives.
This means either 1. You DO need practice on that stage or 2. You're actually trying to bruteforce through the game. In the case of number 2, restart the run for more lives, and then you get closer to 1ccing anyways. I like this system.
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Honestly the main problem people have with the new continue system is that they think they can't clear a single stage from the beginning with only three lives.
This means either 1. You DO need practice on that stage or 2. You're actually trying to bruteforce through the game. In the case of number 2, restart the run for more lives, and then you get closer to 1ccing anyways. I like this system.
Of course, practice makes perfect.
I usually resort to #2 with arcade games, though, so I guess I'll try that strategy and hopefully 1cc them in due course. I may also lower the difficulty settings for this (I usually play on Hard or, in UFO, Normal), but where's the fun in that? :V
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The only other argument I can think of is that it is slower for both unlocking stages for practice and seeing them for the first time when the game comes out, if you game over consistently enough. To which, it really depends on which stage you're on as well. I know when SA came out, it took me forever to even see stage 6 because stage 4 and 5 on Normal took me several hours to complete even once to get to the next stage. However, since it just came out I was new enough at the game to probably have not had more than three lives going into either stage on a full run, so I chose stage restarts instead of runs.
Because of this I can see how this can annoy people on a short-term basis when they haven't played the game much, but even still is fairly petty to complain about. In the long run, stage restarts on continue is better for you.
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The only other argument I can think of is that it is slower for both unlocking stages for practice and seeing them for the first time when the game comes out, if you game over consistently enough. To which, it really depends on which stage you're on as well. I know when SA came out, it took me forever to even see stage 6 because stage 4 and 5 on Normal took me several hours to complete even once to get to the next stage. However, since it just came out I was new enough at the game to probably have not had more than three lives going into either stage on a full run, so I chose stage restarts instead of runs.
Because of this I can see how this can annoy people on a short-term basis when they haven't played the game much, but even still is fairly petty to complain about. In the long run, stage restarts on continue is better for you.
Hm, didn't look at the stage restart system that way beforehand. Given the full power starts, infinite tries, and a fresh set of lives (if coming in then less than three on that run), I could look at it as beneficial.
Maybe this system, increasing difficulty curves, the new derivative works policy, and the refusal to listen to fans' rabid Mima demands are ways ZUN is trying to weed out, contain, and narrow the Touhou fanbase and its increasingly vocal and commercial desires. I take it he's trying to retain control of his franchise and keep it from going too far, which makes sense from an artist's perspective.
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Or ZUN was just drunk and didn't give a shit
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Or both, some people have the best ideas while drunk.
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The only other argument I can think of is that it is slower for both unlocking stages for practice and seeing them for the first time when the game comes out, if you game over consistently enough. To which, it really depends on which stage you're on as well. I know when SA came out, it took me forever to even see stage 6 because stage 4 and 5 on Normal took me several hours to complete even once to get to the next stage. However, since it just came out I was new enough at the game to probably have not had more than three lives going into either stage on a full run, so I chose stage restarts instead of runs.
Because of this I can see how this can annoy people on a short-term basis when they haven't played the game much, but even still is fairly petty to complain about. In the long run, stage restarts on continue is better for you.
One thing I'd like to see is stages being unlocked for practice when you first access the stage instead of after clearing it.
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I think the problem with stage restarts on continue systems is just that there's not really much of a difference over manually stage practicing each stage after your first continue. It seems kinda pointless. Plus if you can't quite 1cc a game, you can't really tell how close you are to doing a 1cc.
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Yeah, unless you take replays of your mistakes to study what you did wrong instead of just saving them for bragging rights.
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One thing I'd like to see is stages being unlocked for practice when you first access the stage instead of after clearing it.
This, pretty much sums up my opinion.
I don't care if you want me to bang my head up against a stage repeatedly until I get it right, but please don't make me waste my time with all the previous stages getting there.
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One thing I'd like to see is stages being unlocked for practice when you first access the stage instead of after clearing it.
or do like Crimzon Clover, where (iirc) you have access to stage practice to one stage beyond the one you've reached (though you still need to buy it with stars in the limiter shop). Though the first thing I did was buy the bgms for sound test (and the intro skip) :p
Or stage practice for the next stage could be also enabled if you beat the stage before it on stage practice too :p
I hope that the spellcard practice room has last words (or whatever replaces them) and is as fun (or more) than in IN. Though I also hope that we don't get to fight Reimu or Marisa in stage 4 (which was a "remake" of the same boss fight in LLS -- which imho also allowed the player to fight Marisa again, after SoEW, with the bonus that you could also play as Marisa against Reimu).
Wonder if we would have requirements like "get to 1% of the last boss' final attack with one credit on Lunatic and then die your last life there", or "enter the bgm room" :p
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One thing I'd like to see is stages being unlocked for practice when you first access the stage instead of after clearing it.
Isnt this game supposed to be harder? I'd love to see this implemented, but sadly It's most likely not going to happen. Though I'm still waiting to see what kind of characters ZUN will put into this one.
In related news Chocolate Bar Japanese Dude for Ten Desires. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpQGHMghMA)
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Isnt this game supposed to be harder?
Other way around. It's supposed to be easier. Whether or not it will be is a different story, but...
How hard it is doesn't mean that practice stages can't unlock before you beat the stage main-game, though. If anything, the harder it is the more the stages should unlock as you get to them rather than after you beat them.
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Wonder if we would have requirements like "get to 1% of the last boss' final attack with one credit on Lunatic and then die your last life there", or "enter the bgm room" :p
10D will have achievements. One for entering the music room. One for starting the game. One for shooting your first bullet. One for blowing up your first fairy. One for dieing.
You heard it here first, folks.
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10D will have achievements. One for entering the music room. One for starting the game. One for shooting your first bullet. One for blowing up your first fairy. One for dieing.
You heard it here first, folks.
I sure hope that isnt sarcasm.
Achievements would be cool I guess. It makes me wanna play a game more. *achievement whore*
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Oh wow, today's the release date and...
I hate you, Namazu and Tenshi. I really do.
e: hurr thought it was March 11, my bad.
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Reitaisai is this Sunday.
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Thanks alot, I just crapped my pants looking for a demo download. now I just lost 10 years of life from crushed heart/dreams/hopes/etc.
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Convenient Australia (Victoria, at least) has a public holiday on Monday so we have two days to enjoy the demo of 10D.
Of course it's three stages and it'll lose it's appeal quickly. I suspect I'll have Lunatic memorised to the bullet by the end of Monday though. :V
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Looks like it won't be released this weekend after all. Big Sight's been damaged by the earthquake so they're taking this weekend to assess how bad it is. No word on a new date as of yet.
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Looks like it won't be released this weekend after all. Big Sight's been damaged by the earthquake so they're taking this weekend to assess how bad it is. No word on a new date as of yet.
Yeah, confirming
They were discussing the status of the Big Sight and it seems for now, Reitaisai 8 will indefinitely be delayed.
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Seeing the current disaster in Japan, as well as N-Forza and Reitaisai Twitter is reporting Reitaisai 8 has unknown status. Speculations and stuff regarding Demo or Reitaisai are at this moment unsuitable. Therefore, this thread is temporarily locked until new information is available.
Apologies and thank you.
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I think locking this thread wasn't necessary, but oh well.
While we're mostly following the news here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8655.0.html), I might as well do my job as a Bunbunmaru reporter, and direct everyone who hasn't seen it to the Reitaisai announcement saying that it's cancelled (http://twitter.com/reitaisai_sp/status/46141410918924288), since that's more relevant for this thread.
Anything else will have to wait on further information.
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Okay, let's just say that, as an example, PCB didn't have new characters, and all of PCB cast is just from older games (only PCB, not the rest). Would you really have liked it that way, knowing how PCB characters are?
I think that a touhou without new lolis would provoke Kogasa to kill herself (seriously speaking, but it would be kinda boring). Besides, touhou fandom is what it is because of the lack of information, inspiring the fans to be creative and fill it with theories~
actually, Letty was a new character there, so had been Chen, and the Prismriver sisters + Lily White, Youmu, Yuyuko, Ran and Yukari because they first appeared in that game. .____.;
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actually, Letty was a new character there, so had been Chen, and the Prismriver sisters + Lily White, Youmu, Yuyuko, Ran and Yukari because they first appeared in that game. .____.;
They meant it as a "what if"-scenario, not literally.
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That statement was purely hypothetical, and uhh yeah this is like a 4-month bump or something