RNG And Dragons Thread XXIX: NA is actually good now?!?!?!?!

[Mеа]

My kirining is very rusty right now, so probably panda. With so many actives we should be able to burst every floor. Also I'm only thinking like the first 5 right now, just to get that stone. We can think about the latter half if it goes well.
I'll look through, I don't have much else though

[Jq1790]

Wait, it's the first five now that're Normal?

[OverlordChirei]

Wait, it's the first five now that're Normal?

no, still got a stone for 1-3

[Jq1790]

Oh ok, just making sure.  I mean Id hope Id be able to beat even 1-5 on my phone, but still.  Never know what those weirdoes at GH will come up with.

[Mеа]

Ugh, took too long to post, I'll post it down here in case you miss it.

ok, I looked through. You have quite a few developed cards, while I have like close to none. The first 5 should be easy enough for anything to handle, but this is what I've come up with.
Basically, my 'viable' leads list comes down to: Kirin, panda, bmeta or valks, Kushi, ayomi, Izanami, Akechi. Also technically I have a fenrir that I just rolled that's underleveled. So the possible pairups look like this:
Roah/AA Luci x Panda, viable for earlier levels for the devil bonus
Bastet x Kushi, combo multiplier
Ammy/ZL/Elia/Kanna/purin x valks or bmeta, more or less unconditional multiplier
Yomidra/Castor x Akechi/aYomi, the match exactly 5 dark orbs with one enhanced leads
Fenrir x Fenrir, though I'll have to primarily play support
Isis/Sakuya x Kirin, rainbows

watchoo think?

[OverlordChirei]

I'M FREEEEE

[The Greatest Dog]

Roah/AA Luci x Panda, viable for earlier levels for the devil bonus
Lucy X Pandora sounds legit. My Devil rows is a bit lack luster but I can turn one of my D/G Persephones back into a Devil if it comes down to it.
Bastet x Kushi, combo multiplier
Probably the easiest to work with. Between things like Susano, Liu Bei, Ceres and Kaede, I have plenty of utility subs.
Ammy/ZL/Elia/Kanna/purin x valks or bmeta, more or less unconditional multiplier
Perhaps, even my Supergirl could be used here? 4.5x attack and 1.5x RCV for healers and Physical is nothing to scoff at.
Yomidra/Castor x Akechi/aYomi, the match exactly 5 dark orbs with one enhanced leads
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THE DAY I CAN LEAD WITH CASTOR. Pairing with AYomi should give firepower, and Co-op + Castor's bulk should be great for our durability.
Alternatively, I could lead with Hamal if we're having trouble recovering HP, since she has that odd "Heart TPA" leader skill and higher offense
Fenrir x Fenrir, though I'll have to primarily play support
tbh the no-dupe restriction means I can't use my second Fenrir as a sub, so that'll kill the jammer momentum. I'd love to co-op Fenrir sometime, but it probably won't work here.
Isis/Sakuya x Kirin, rainbows
Gainaut X Kirin for a free DKali board and that sweet Co-op Boost Awoken skill

nevermind that Gainaut comment, though he's still a fabulous sub for Kirin

[Mеа]

Ah, didn't see supergirl for some reason. I find unconditional leads really boring to play though. So we can try out the Castor Ayomi then, see how that works. After my class coming this next hour.

[commandercool]

I wouldn't worry too much about being bored. Multiplayer drama tends to make things interesting. Maybe less so when you're not in the same room. You guys should Skype while you play.

[Monarda]

Oh yea, i also need someone to do those myself, it'll be quite hard to do higher ones since i don't have much developed, plus the "fear of fucking up everything and being a burden" would kick in right on.

[Mеа]

Oh yea, i also need someone to do those myself, it'll be quite hard to do higher ones since i don't have much developed, plus the "fear of fucking up everything and being a burden" would kick in right on.

I can go tango with you if you can't find someone else, I'm really chill, don't worry about screwing up, we'll figure something out.

I'm out of class, I'll be in the chat if we're planning to do it within the next 3 hours or so.

[Dr Rawr]

I'm always up for multiplayer though I will only run like saria and amaterasu. Sakuya is to much a pain in the butt

[Mеа]

So fpurin and I just did lvls 5 and 6, castor x yomi. Who knew coop could be fun if you actually had, you know, others, to play it with.

Meaning I still need to do lvls 1-4 since he's taking off to class in a bit. If you're free, go to the chat and holler at me.

[Monarda]

Well, i'm not really free right now to use PC's IRC, is there a phone version of it ?

[Mеа]

There are apps available, but it won't be helpful since you can't exit pad at all when in coop mode.

[The Greatest Dog]

Orb enhance spam is legit. Thanks to Mea and Chirei for good times.

[Monarda]

Hmmm.... then maybe tomorrow ? It's still thursday, so no PC for me sadly.

[Mеа]

I mapped out plan for challenge lvl 10 for dual apandas that I need someone to help fill in

mons:
APanda APanda (fl5)
Orochi (fl5) (or echidna)
Akechi+Haku (fl4)
Akechi+Haku (fl3) (or any other bursting equivalent)
Diza (fl2) skill must be up for use on fl2!
poison->dark (fl2) (I have an anubis, but anything works)
someone who can make many dark orbs (fl1)

The basic plan is to kill everything in one hit, except for vishnu in two hits
These calculations were done with my normal dark team, so once I can collaborate with how mons are going to be distributed in the party, I can figure out the new min combos and max combos.

fl1 (8orb row + 3orb dark) (11 dark) + 2 extra

fl2 poison->dark 30 orbs, this one shots
USE DIZA SHIELD

fl3 (8orb row + 6orb row) (2 dark rows, 14 dark orbs) + 0 extra necessary
must have hp > 38k
but heal up for fl4's preemptive

fl4 (8orb row + 6 orb row) (2 dark rows, 14 dark orbs) + 3 extra
or  (8orb row + 6 orb row + 3 orb) (2 dark rows, 17 dark orbs) + 1 extra
13k preempt, 8k with Diza up

fl5
SAFE COMBOS: (KEEP UP TO OR UNDER):
(Note, the flex is the 'extra's bit)
(use the # of dark orbs on left to figure out how many flex combos you can make to keep under 1mil damage)
(flex means: any color combo not dark!)
(To be safe, try to stay at least 1 flex combo under the number listed under extra)
(These are calculated without enhanced orbs, take off 2~4 flex combos with enhanced orbs)
for...
1 6orb dark row:             + 29 extra
1 6orb dark row: 1 3orb dark + 16 extra
1 6orb dark row: 2 3orb dark +  9 extra
1 6orb dark row: 1 4orb dark + 12 extra
1 6orb dark row: 1 4orb dark + 1 3orb dark + 8 extra
2 6orb dark row:             +  5 extra  !!! AVOID, dark skyfall danger
2 6orb dark row: 1 3orb dark +  2 extra  !!! AVOID
2 6orb dark row: 1 4orb dark +  1 extra  !!! AVOID


(Better to use above 6orb rows instead, unless very much lacking in dark orbs)
(because you still want to do damage)
1 8orb dark row:             + 10 extra
1 8orb dark row: 1 3orb dark +  5 extra
1 8orb dark row: 2 3orb dark +  1 extra  !!! AVOID
1 8orb dark row: 1 4orb dark +  3 extra  ~~~ danger
1 8orb dark row: 1 4orb dark + 1 3orb dark + 1 extra  !!! AVOID

2 turn ko
use delay, 2 orb converters, probably the 2 lead pandas

e: correction, must have hp>42k since fl2's beelzubub has a preempt that we won't be healing from as well.

[commandercool]

I can co-op and provide an APanda, but I'm slightly unclear from that post what you  would need from me. I've got a hypermax Awoken Orochi, two skillmax black Izanamis or black Metatron, and the contents of my Pandora team (being hypermax APanda, Super Panda, Hanzo, Zuoh, and Loki) all maxed. I don't really have that much more black row stuff ready. Does that help?

[Mеа]

Didn't clarify what I had oops. If you have hypermax orochis and dizas, that means we won't need my weaker unmaxed ones. Whichever of either her or meta you like more we can use. Preferably the one with no dark orb enhance awakenings since that can complicate calculations.
So besides the delay and shield, if you have a way of bursting on floor 3 or 4, that would be perfect. I'm guessing zuoh x super panda? I forget if zuoh had god or dragon killer, since that may complicate things.
Giving you both the utilities might affect your damage output so I might take one of them. Probably the orochi if it seems he may break 2mil with an unlucky tpa skyfall.

So it seems as of right now, apanda super panda, zuoh, shield and orochi. Can you let me know their pluses an and latent eggs?
Some switcheroos between us may be necessary here and there.

[commandercool]

Awoken Pandora: +297, rainbow resists, skillmax
Cruel Bleak Night Goddess Pandora: No +, one RCV latent, skillmax
One Eyed Black Demon Beast Zuoh: HP +1, five HP latents, skill level two (can be skilled up further with Badpy if necessary). Does have Dragon Killer.
Pacifying Yomi Goddess Izanami: HP +1, no latents, skillmax
Arbiter of Judgement Metatron: No +, no latents, skillmax
Awoken Viper Orochi: +297, five HP latents, skillmax

You tell me what to bring, and let me know if you need stats from anything else. My PADHerder should be very roughly correct regarding what I have at least, if not exactly what state everything is currently in.

[OverlordChirei]

ccool, do you think it would be possible for us to take down Lv10 with Karin/Nepdra?

With just her reduction, DQ Hera's preemptive does a little over 40000, which we can easily survive at full health. Though I think I'd need your nepdra up now if possible so I can damage test.

[Mеа]

Do you still have your Satsuki? (or Castor)

e: @ccoolaid: I've attached a pdf outline of the conquest strategy, take a look at it and tell me what you think
I ended up going with your Orochi instead of mine since I didn't realize I only had  the NY tengu, so I can't evolve to awoken. Whoops.
The only somewhat tricky part is Vishnu, as expected. Rest is smooth sailing, more or less, with a very low chance of massive rng trolling if either of us ends up with only 5 off colors when bursting. Skill boosts are shared so we should have everything up to go, we'll have 16~17.

[Monarda]

Finally ! The Angelit gave me more work than both Hera-Sowilo and Sandalphon, and just rolled it in Evo PEM.

[trancehime]

SeemsGood

I also pulled a Sylvie but no one cares about her

Literally only missing 1 GFE now

CAN I FINALLY GET 100% GFE COLLECTION?!

[Jq1790]

* Jq1790 sees he is nobody, goes into a corner

(Kidding.  Also congrats on pulling Scheat, that lovable TPA monstrosity)

(Also congrats Raf on finally acquiring AVenus.  She's potentially pretty darn handy.)

[commandercool]

ccool, do you think it would be possible for us to take down Lv10 with Karin/Nepdra?

With just her reduction, DQ Hera's preemptive does a little over 40000, which we can easily survive at full health. Though I think I'd need your nepdra up now if possible so I can damage test.

Yeah sure, probably. Seems the actual burst would be sketchy since my current orbchanges aren't that Karin'friendly, but if you can figure it out I'd be happy to try. He's up now.

Do you still have your Satsuki? (or Castor)

e: @ccoolaid: I've attached a pdf outline of the conquest strategy, take a look at it and tell me what you think
I ended up going with your Orochi instead of mine since I didn't realize I only had  the NY tengu, so I can't evolve to awoken. Whoops.
The only somewhat tricky part is Vishnu, as expected. Rest is smooth sailing, more or less, with a very low chance of massive rng trolling if either of us ends up with only 5 off colors when bursting. Skill boosts are shared so we should have everything up to go, we'll have 16~17.

I do have Satsuki and Castor. Satsuki is more or less ready to go, Castor could probably be maxed out as necessary but currently isn't evolved. I'll look at the plan in a bit.

Just FYI for anyone looking to team up, I'm goibg back to sleep for another half hour or so as of right now, then I'll be at work until ~5-6 PM EST. Then I'llbe more or less available after that.

[Zengar Zombolt]

Guess the evo PEM has been kind today, it gave me the third fire jewel I needed!

[commandercool]

Mea: It's probably my phone's fault, but that PDF is illegible. Hopefully it will be readable on an actual computer later.

[Mеа]

Ehh~? weird.

Try these jpegs then