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(http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_2810.jpg)
Puzzle & Dragons is an iOS/android puzzle RPG. It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon. It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained frequently as rewards in-game), which allow for increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more. If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any. (It's recommended you don't because most things can be obtained/beaten without spending money and some amount of patience and skill.)
You can control monsters from lowly slimes to even lowlier dragons to ancient gods and other mythological creatures dressed up as school students like Class Monitor Athena(above). They all mostly have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.
Real talk though, the real reason to get into this game is because everyone else here is playing it and has been playing non-stop for the past 2 years :V , and probably won't stop for a long time thanks to the constant updates to the game and its mechanics, balance changes that never directly nerf anything and are mostly focused on increasing the viability of older monsters, and of course the endless addition of new monsters and collabs that are dished out on a regular basis.
If you're interested, there's a really useful database and game info here:
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/
A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine. It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare (a god). Great starters include any of the Chinese gods, Bastet, Isis, Verdandi, Lu Bu, Bastet, Odin, Kali, Shiva, Bastet, Sonia. Feel free to ask!
If you need more help or just want to discuss the game, we also have a P&D channel on the MotK IRC network in here. Just type your name and go.
For those using IRC clients other than webchat, the channel is #puzzleandlibrarians on irc.ppirc.net.
List of friends + Main Leaders:
Edible: 328,945,274 (Batman*, Bastet*)
hyorinryu: 357.646.299 (Sakuya*, Perseus*)
Suikama: 348.941.282 (Isis*, Ra Dra*)
triangles: 322.456.235 (LMeta*, Santa Sakuya)
Chaore: 344,844,286 (HM Kiriko, Shiva*)
Yukarin: 394.177.213 (Haku*, Sakuya*)
Jq1790: 396,049,294 (AShiva, AKarin*)
Pesco: 328 276 294 (Yomidra, Ronia*)
Dibble: 314,673,283 (Isis, GOdin)
Matsuri: 358,689,277 (Awoken Astaroth*, Awoken Tsukuyomi*)
Fast Fanatic: 359,184,275 (Zaerog∞, Raoh)
Sacchi: 385,394,297 (Horus*, Vishnu*)
rdj: 338,277,280 (AA Lucifer*, Minerva*)
Chirei: 326,404,383 (Leilan*, Alraune*)
commandercool: 312,728,337 (Gabriel*, Awoken Ra*)
Aoshi: 398,822,333 (School!Athena, Sakuya*)
Conqueror: 331,616,320 (DQXQ, I&I)
MoogsParfait: 313,455,268 (Leilan, Amaterasu*)
Dorakyura: 347,957,300 (Nephthys*)
Bio: 336,681,244 (Sakuya, Athena)
En: 351,629,319 (Lu Bu, Haku)
moekou: 329,066,242 (Osiris*, Pandora)
Espadas: 301,335,377 (Yomidra*, APandora)
Calamity: 331,737,355 (Ronia, Shiva)
Mea: 380,147,382 (Sakuya*, APandora)
aUsernameIsFineToo: 347,966,337 (Bastet, Rozuel)
Ruka: 368,034,352 (Sasuke, I&I Healer)
Zengar Zombolt: 309,400,409 (Verdandi, D/B Okuninushi)
StarlightHawk: 383,095,393 (Avalon Drake, Skuld)
qMyon: 320,092,324 (Verdandi, Saria)
Soichirou W.: 323,897,388 (Perseus)
(Asterisk next to leaders means "hypermax" - +297, max skill. Glowing leaders have all five latent awakening slots full.)
Topic Archive
Thread I (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14669.0.html)
Thread II (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15058.0.html)
Thread III (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15370.0.html)
Thread IV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15728.0.html)
Thread V (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16090.0.html)
Thread VI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16209.0.html)
Thread VII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16326.0.html)
Thread VIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16604.0.html)
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Cool :D
Now we just get someone to lock the old one so we don't have two running threads :P
EDIT: Oh yeah, you should probably mention something about how GungHo treats IAP accounts differently than non-IAP accounts in the case of a device loss or something like that, because that is kind of important.
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>did not use ichigo as the splash art
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Silly redhead with a funky mask vs cute anime schoolgirl interpretation of a goddess? I dont think there is much competition there, haha.
Plus she is much more indicative of what PAD's treatment of characters is, heh.
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And a good signal of where the money really is heading, too.
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And a good signal of where the money really is heading, too.
You can always sell your soul and time go play easy mode on JP.
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Farming Keepers is slow business. I need 14 various Keepers, but only have 63 stamina. And 2 of the Keepers are Dark Keepers. So I need at least 360 stamina for all of those. Because I may not even get the Dark Keepers, because RNGeezus isn't always a generous man. So I probably will end up needing more like 420 stamina. And the Dark Keepers get harder and harder as I blow through Helpers. So probably more like 480 stamina is needed, assuming I fail a couple due to not having a half-decent Helper. Today is going to be FUN.
:getdown: :colbert: :getdown:
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Silly redhead with a funky mask vs cute anime schoolgirl interpretation of a goddess? I dont think there is much competition there, haha.
"Do i look funky to you?"
(http://hdwallpaperia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Bleach-Ichigo-Hollow-Wallpaper-HD-Image-Anime-640x400.png)
Also please don't mock one of my favourite characters in the story :colbert:...... no, not the carrot top, i speak about THIS character:
(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/answers/280000/280326_1312650253532_399_300.jpg)
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Silly redhead with a funky mask vs cute anime schoolgirl interpretation of a goddess? I dont think there is much competition there, haha.
Plus she is much more indicative of what PAD's treatment of characters is, heh.
Dw, I'm sure somewhere in there Ichigo is part anime schoolgirl. Kubo just hasn't revealed it yet.
In other news, I keep missing latents. I dunno how many stones I'll throw at the bleach REM. All my favorite characters are silvers.
I'll roll a few times and save in hopes of Askin and Bambi in the future. On the other hand, in light of recent events, I want Kenpachi because his ult is likely to use another one of the characters I like.
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Farming Keepers is slow business. I need 14 various Keepers, but only have 63 stamina. And 2 of the Keepers are Dark Keepers. So I need at least 360 stamina for all of those. Because I may not even get the Dark Keepers, because RNGeezus isn't always a generous man. So I probably will end up needing more like 420 stamina. And the Dark Keepers get harder and harder as I blow through Helpers. So probably more like 480 stamina is needed, assuming I fail a couple due to not having a half-decent Helper. Today is going to be FUN.
:getdown: :colbert: :getdown:
If you hop on the IRC I can give you access to Valk for as much as you need her or something if she'll help make it more consistent.
Also, Light and Dark Keepers are more easily farmed in Rainbow Keeeper's dungeon if that's not where you were going in the first place. You can probably very easily kill him if you can make it to him since he's also dark, luckily.
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I probably won't need Valk; I'll see after I clear this run of the Rainbow dungeon. I'm doing the Rainbow Keeper's dungeon, for the Dark ones, too. I'm just saying that It's going to be a pain in the butt when Light Keepers start floating around (like right now : P), because I don't get the damage reduction or type bonus against them.
EDIT: Welp, nevermind about the Valk for now. Even the Light Keeper only does 3063 reduced damage. That Rainbow Keeper has been known to kill me in one hit, though, so I prefer a double Pollux or at least a high-ATK Helper for him.
EDIT2: Actually, I should be fine for a few more runs (until my pool finally depletes) because I have a total of 5 useful Helper monsters: Pollux, Ariel, Ariel, Osechi Mitsuki, and LDC Kanna. All of those give me enough firepower to one-shot the final Keeper.
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Ahh, I know that feeling. Earlygame I was dark-focused and needed a lot and took forever to get those keepers too. So frustrating.
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Farming Keepers is slow business. I need 14 various Keepers, but only have 63 stamina. And 2 of the Keepers are Dark Keepers. So I need at least 360 stamina for all of those. Because I may not even get the Dark Keepers, because RNGeezus isn't always a generous man. So I probably will end up needing more like 420 stamina. And the Dark Keepers get harder and harder as I blow through Helpers. So probably more like 480 stamina is needed, assuming I fail a couple due to not having a half-decent Helper. Today is going to be FUN.
:getdown: :colbert: :getdown:
That`s why i stockpile shit, i have a ton of Evo Mats ready for use, even for Baby Tamadras.
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Aaah why am I doing this to myself. I've been messing around with the ranking dungeon using Verdandi for lack of anything better to do with my stamina, and once again all I'm getting out of it is making myself feel bad.
Cleared it in nine turns with just a few seconds per floor and still got a horrible score. I think a bit of it is that my phone is lagging at times (it seems to stutter significantly when I use Awoken Ra's active) but I doubt that accounts for much of it. I don't know how to do this any better, and my best is garbage. Lovely.
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Aaah why am I doing this to myself. I've been messing around with the ranking dungeon using Verdandi for lack of anything better to do with my stamina, and once again all I'm getting out of it is making myself feel bad.
Cleared it in nine turns with just a few seconds per floor and still got a horrible score. I think a bit of it is that my phone is lagging at times (it seems to stutter significantly when I use Awoken Ra's active) but I doubt that accounts for much of it. I don't know how to do this any better, and my best is garbage. Lovely.
Have you turned on Simple Background in options (only doable outside dungeons)? That helps significantly I believe. Also the scores for this are gonna suck for most people, so what looks bad might not ACTUALLY be as bad as it seems.
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I ended up with a 3.9% using Yomidora. Zaerogoo was a crucial sub because he effectively gives you burst for three consecutive turns while only using the time to cast one active skill.
Ten waves is brutal. I can't imagine Rainbow teams being able to process that many times in a row easily.
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I haven't tried simple backgrounds yet. If I do this again I will.
Scores give percentiles, so I can see that mine does indeed suck unless the estimation is extremely wrong. That's relative obviously, there are still plenty of people below me, but given how many people just run this no-effort for the stone it's trashy.
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Hi op, please make my Sakuya asterisk and goldy and my secondary leader A Panda. I've asked twice before which seems to have become lost in the torrent of virtual age busyness. If I have to ask again, I think I'll start sending spam messages to every friend on my pad account to the extent of 50+ messages so that I will effectively erase and empty their mail boxes of their precious protected messages and unopened event/challenge gifts. Such is my pandemonic diabolicalness and unadultered evilness.
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I think I care less about my 48 unopened jewels than you do about the time it would take to send that many messages. Bring it on!
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I can and will commit postal genocide on your
ass box, don't goad me into this son.
Think of all the rem gods you could go 0/48 on.
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Oh shit I was gonna make a joke about how I never pull Chineses but I didn't realize they rotate these now. Ha ha badass. Still never opening my mail though because I don't want to have to store all the ones I don't need.
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Hi op, please make my Sakuya asterisk and goldy and my secondary leader A Panda. I've asked twice before which seems to have become lost in the torrent of virtual age busyness. If I have to ask again, I think I'll start sending spam messages to every friend on my pad account to the extent of 50+ messages so that I will effectively erase and empty their mail boxes of their precious protected messages and unopened event/challenge gifts. Such is my pandemonic diabolicalness and unadultered evilness.
done pls spare my inbox it is innocent and has done nothing to you why would you even threaten the cute little thing ;_;
also if your requests for it got ignored or lost it's edible's fault since they were last thread's OP :V
and speaking of last thread's OP gdi edible why did you have to add so many instances of BATMAN to the op :V
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Oh wow I'm noted as still having Athena going, wow I'm out of date. I guess replace her with Awoken Shiva since I use him almost as much as her nowadays. Please and thank you.
Soon enough Awoken Karin will be penta but for now no change on that front.
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I hate to say it, but I don't particularly use Big Dog anymore, either.
My hearts' effectiveness are breaking in half. :c
I guess, in that regard, I should be changed to Big Rog and Raoh?
at least Zaerog isn't likely to die from powercreep yet.
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and speaking of last thread's OP gdi edible why did you have to add so many instances of BATMAN to the op :V
I lay traps for the next person to make a topic.
It's how I show I care! <3
I hate to say it, but I don't particularly use Big Dog anymore, either.
My hearts' effectiveness are breaking in half. :c
I guess, in that regard, I should be changed to Big Rog and Raoh?
at least Zaerog isn't likely to die from powercreep yet.
Isn't Purin rather well-suited to ranking dungeons, at least?
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Purin is super orb hungry for 12.25x damage and he doesn't make any orbs himself
Contrast with Yomidora who effortlessly gets x36 for five orbs or Dizzy and Lizzy who get x16 for just existing
I mean, the HP of everything in this tournament is low enough that I could probably get away with Cloud/Ariel/???/Poison as subs, but
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One day, Big Dog shall rise again. For now, he must lie in wait.
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he's not dead
he's just playing dead
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Guess i'll get in line to get an update on my leaders in the OP, since i literally don't have Ronia or Karin anymore :V
I've been maining Yomidra and A.Panda for a while....
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Hi op, please make my Sakuya asterisk and goldy and my secondary leader A Panda. I've asked twice before which seems to have become lost in the torrent of virtual age busyness. If I have to ask again, I think I'll start sending spam messages to every friend on my pad account to the extent of 50+ messages so that I will effectively erase and empty their mail boxes of their precious protected messages and unopened event/challenge gifts. Such is my pandemonic diabolicalness and unadultered evilness.
System Messages (like gifts) and Player Messages have different counters.
Source: I have 170 unopened gift messages, can still get messages from other people fine.
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Guess i'll get in line to get an update on my leaders in the OP, since i literally don't have Ronia or Karin anymore :V
I've been maining Yomidra and A.Panda for a while....
Don't use I could understand, but don't...HAVE?
> = |
(I kid, I kid. Your game, after all, and something tells me they were fuel for that dragon thing.)
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Don't use I could understand, but don't...HAVE?
> = |
(I kid, I kid. Your game, after all, and something tells me they were fuel for that dragon thing.)
Good instict :D Ronia was my first hypermaxed, now her 297 legacy is carried by Yomidra, just like Karin lives on in A.Panda :V
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done pls spare my inbox it is innocent and has done nothing to you why would you even threaten the cute little thing ;_;
also if your requests for it got ignored or lost it's edible's fault since they were last thread's OP :V
I know (>ｖ゜), thanks＊＊
now I don't have to follow through on my threats and waste a lot of time
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System Messages (like gifts) and Player Messages have different counters.
Source: I have 170 unopened gift messages, can still get messages from other people fine.
and now I'm much less paranoid about storing gift messages
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Good instict :D Ronia was my first hypermaxed, now her 297 legacy is carried by Yomidra, just like Karin lives on in A.Panda :V
Why people do that ?!?! I will never feed my Hypermax cards to other cards just to make the process faster, NEVER ! They deserve respect !
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I had a hyper Beelzebub once
once
I can get another one whenever though so I am not very bothered
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At the beginning i was reluctant too, but about 2 months ago i took a very drastic decision: the game was becoming a bit too much like a chore, with all the cards that needed attention, so i decided to focus on only ONE color, the one that have most of my favourite cards and luckily was also my most developed: Dark.
Since i had no more reasons to keep monsters i didn't plan to use and i needed MP for buying Yomidra and co. i had no regrets in utterly OBLITERATING half of my box. What i was left with:
- Fire: literally only Echidna :V
- Water: Mithril Edge + Folklore (just because they might become evo mats for something i'd want)
- Wood: my Verdandi team
- Light: my A.Sakuya team (+ A.Ra, A.Ama, Indra and Ganesha)
That had the happy side-effect of enormously cut down on the evo mats i needed to stockpile and clear up a lot of time and/or stamina to focus on my dark box.
I had a hyper Beelzebub once
once
I can get another one whenever though so I am not very bothered
I still don't understand WHY his uevo have a different AS from the previous forms.... how in the blazes did people maxskill him before?
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Oh wow I'm noted as still having Athena going, wow I'm out of date. I guess replace her with Awoken Shiva since I use him almost as much as her nowadays. Please and thank you.
Done.
I hate to say it, but I don't particularly use Big Dog anymore, either.
My hearts' effectiveness are breaking in half. :c
I guess, in that regard, I should be changed to Big Rog and Raoh?
Done.
Guess i'll get in line to get an update on my leaders in the OP, since i literally don't have Ronia or Karin anymore :V
I've been maining Yomidra and A.Panda for a while....
And done.
Anyone else may be free to check their leaders and update if necessary. I'd also appreciate if you mentioned if your updated lead is Hypermax/Pentamax/What have you
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You max leveled the fodder Beelzebub's for a 100% skillup chance, clearly
(I used Pys)
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(http://i.imgur.com/9CJ2rVq.jpg)
I did a run because I was capped on stamina and had nothing better to do. Literally no idea what I did differently, but I'm much happier with that (it was much, MUCH lower before). Still not great obviously, but I can live with it. And my RNG even could have been a tiny bit better since my 40% blind resist only triggered once. And I forgot to turn off backgrounds before entering if that matters.
I used Verdandi/Sasuke/Liubs/GZL/Ra/Verdandi, if anyone cares or has any input on how to improve that.
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Anyone else may be free to check their leaders and update if necessary. I'd also appreciate if you mentioned if your updated lead is Hypermax/Pentamax/What have you
HM Kiriko/PentaShiva.
dandi fuckin' dide
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My Ra is pentamax now. Plz glow him.
Do you guys think adding team rarity to Ranking Dungeons, S-Rank style, would make them more fun? I understand it's not in Gungho's best interest to take away the whales' leg up on Ranking, but that kind of system would still reward whaling since whales can afford to keep unevolved REM cards around more easily and are more liable to be able to do thinks like stacking ninjas or something, not to mention the ability to stone for better RNG. It might homogenize the kinds of teams people would play since if farmable cards are good there's no reason for everyone not to use them, but at the high ranks they're already extremely homogeneous. I think it might be a big help and I can't really see how it would hurt that much, but I'm certainly no expert on Ranking so maybe I'm overlooking something.
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Do you guys think adding team rarity to Ranking Dungeons, S-Rank style, would make them more fun? I understand it's not in Gungho's best interest to take away the whales' leg up on Ranking, but that kind of system would still reward whaling since whales can afford to keep unevolved REM cards around more easily and are more liable to be able to do thinks like stacking ninjas or something, not to mention the ability to stone for better RNG. It might homogenize the kinds of teams people would play since if farmable cards are good there's no reason for everyone not to use them, but at the high ranks they're already extremely homogeneous. I think it might be a big help and I can't really see how it would hurt that much, but I'm certainly no expert on Ranking so maybe I'm overlooking something.
I think that would still mostly benefit the whales since they have access to assumedly unlimited resources to make +297 crap cards, whereas normal people definitely won't now due to the restricted dungeons being banished. The real biggest thing is the fact that they can just stone for stamina forever.
Unfortunately, Ranking is one of those things that can never satisfy everyone due to this pay-to-win aspect, direct competition with other players for prizes, and the mere concept of skyfall. The real best solution is just to keep it fixed, which would eliminate a lot of the negative factors so that you'd only have to deal with skyfall and the whales having unlimited stamina, but still quite the chore if you don't have deep pockets.
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This might be silly, but idk what what I lead with most of the time. I feel like mess around with Sakuya, Santakuya, I&I, and GSonia. Who do you guys see most of the time when you see me on your friends list?
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Oh christ what the fuck, I didn't realize 10x descends were up. I just bought Fat Dragon from coin dungeons for the stone and completion and now I totally regret iiiiiit.
I guess I don't really have a ton to do with my +eggs after I finish Panda though. And I have something like 60 excess ATK eggs and the last six I dropped were ATK, so I guess I should just expect more of that. Regardless, Tengu foreveeeer!
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This might be silly, but idk what what I lead with most of the time. I feel like mess around with Sakuya, Santakuya, I&I, and GSonia. Who do you guys see most of the time when you see me on your friends list?
I usually see you with Sakuya on both slots. Sometimes I see Christmas Sakuya and I rarely see GSonia.
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This might be silly, but idk what what I lead with most of the time. I feel like mess around with Sakuya, Santakuya, I&I, and GSonia. Who do you guys see most of the time when you see me on your friends list?
Sakuya, Christmas Sakuya, I&I and I think, occasionally ALuci?? I'm using someone's ALuci whenever he's up and when he is, I use him, whoever it belongs to.
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Alright ccool, here it is, the ultimate update.
PAD v9.0.3
-You may now use leader switch actives in co-op mode.
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Alright ccool, here it is, the ultimate update.
PAD v9.0.3
-You may now use leader switch actives in co-op mode.
Yaaaaay!
Alright jq, you ready to beat all the things? Get thee a Beyzul ready. Or not, either way probably works.
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Ahahahaha, about that...
I miiiight be able to be convinced, but I think you are a liiiitle out of my skill range so I dunno. I'd be willing to try if you have any idea what you want me leading with. Remember I dont have Gabe or anything.
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Dual Gabes is never plan A. I was thinking Hermes, especially after Awoken Hermes comes out. We could theoretically even do NepDra/Hermes, which I think is mostly just a slightly better version of my current NepDra/Ryune teams.
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Oh christ what the fuck, I didn't realize 10x descends were up. I just bought Fat Dragon from coin dungeons for the stone and completion and now I totally regret iiiiiit.
I guess I don't really have a ton to do with my +eggs after I finish Panda though. And I have something like 60 excess ATK eggs and the last six I dropped were ATK, so I guess I should just expect more of that. Regardless, Tengu foreveeeer!
I don't know if it makes it worse that Fat Dragon's dungeon is featured TODAY.....
Btw, GIMME THOSE ATK EGGS!! I drop so many RCV i could make an healer out of Noahdra! :flamingv:
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So, basing off of a guide, I'm trying to make an Eternal Twin Stars, I&I Healer Team, but it mentions a Hatsume. How the heck am I supposed to get a Hatsume ???
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If you really want one I think your best bet is to look for Director's Carnivals that include ninjas. As an added bonus they usually contain Valkyries as well, and Reine is probably even better. I would kind of caution you against doing that though since Director's Carnival is a real crapshoot and you could screw yourself out of a lot of stones doing that.
Honestly Healer I&I is not really a friendly lead. They need a lot of rare stuff that comes from different places. It takes a ton of luck or a ton of money to use them effectively. You could devote all of your resources trying to put their team together, but I'm not sure that's a great idea. Many of the cards are useful elsewhere, but Awoken I&I is kind of considered the better lead and they don't necessarily completely overlap.
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Yeah I'm not rushing it or anything, but I wanted to at some point get the subs for it. I mean, ATM I am 100% incapable of getting, say, a BValkyrie.
Honestly, I'm not that into AI&I, they have (IMO) not much more use (but certainly some amount more) then ETS I&I, for way more resources. They do similar things, it's just AI&I works as an attack-team lead/sub.
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https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/717707779159433216
1F - Laila
2F - Grizal --> FA Luci
3F - (FA Luci) 2 Rows
4F - Ronia -> Akechi
Here was my plan for farming Athena Descended! to get my School Athena maxed out.
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Honestly, I'm not that into AI&I, they have (IMO) not much more use (but certainly some amount more) then ETS I&I, for way more resources. They do similar things, it's just AI&I works as an attack-team lead/sub.
Okay, I guess I take back the thing about AI&I being too expensive for their worth. With AI&I, I could probably form a team with:
AI&I/Snow White/Siren/Jewel of Water ATM for nubs like me(Scheat for the cool kids)/Maybe Skuld?/BValk/AI&I
I think that would work. Especially with all the TPA flying around on there, it should have a decent mix of Healz/Offense.
And trancehime, I had a quick glance at the rest of your Twitter. To be Lancer is to be dying O_o Don't mess with the prophecy...
EDIT:
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/717707779159433216
trancehime, how exactly are you getting 41k HP? I don't really recognize the Leaders there.
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That is Awoken Archdemon Lucifer. He gives 1.35x to all stats for devils and gods, along with 3x damage when you match 6+ dark orbs.
Also, Norse are not designed to be stacked; rather, find someone with Hermes(hi) or Ryune and you get a very balanced team, and AI&I's skill ensures you deal massive damage for two turns assuming you match one or more rows. 6.25X RCV is hilarious overkill so it wouldnt really help as much as extra HP or something with more power or other benefits.
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Okay, so is the extra HP trancehime has just from Hypermaxing?
And overkill isn't a bad thing, but I see what you're saying. I'll try to get subs together for that.
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Okay, so is the extra HP trancehime has just from Hypermaxing?
Dual Lucifers has a 1.8225x HP modifier, so it's significantly from that.
And overkill isn't a bad thing, but I see what you're saying. I'll try to get subs together for that.
Yes it is. It's wasteful.
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Well, it isn't really wasteful when it's a difference between a useful Helper and a useless one. It's just stamina, not materials, and for my current level (: P) I'm not going to be doing things that require a full day's worth of stamina. I mean, I might by the time I actually get this stuff together, but yeah.
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Yeah fair. In the long run you should shoot for balanced teams, or at least imbalanced teams that are imbalanced in a useful direction, but if you're doing stuff that doesn't matter regardless then yeah, do whatever.
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of course, HP usually matters more in the short term, while RCV matters more in the long term
Unless, you're like Raoh or uvo Cloud where you just stack as much HP and ATK and hope you kill everything before your steam runs out.
(http://imgur.com/Gm3RttE.jpg)
Castor is so cooool.
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*cough*Amazing image size*cough* :V
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Huh. Didn't realize imgur is handling screenshots differently or something?
How annoying.
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I don't think it's imgur. The forum has (had?) code to automatically reduce images above a certain size, but it may not be working properly.
We're looking into it, so in the meantime please append your image tags to read something like:
[img height=400]http://imgur.com/Gm3RttE.jpg[/img]
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In imgur you can scale down an image right after you upload, so I usually divide it all by two. MotK's img tag has been wierd for a while, so I do my stuff on imgur.
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In imgur you can scale down an image right after you upload, so I usually divide it all by two. MotK's img tag has been wierd for a while, so I do my stuff on imgur.
Yeah, I usually adjust stuff on imgur too. If I put something here, I usually thumbnail it.
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RNG is now 99% more dumb than I thought it was before. But hey, it's RNG; maybe you'll nail the 1% chance.
I was fusing enhances in NA - not one Great.
Just now: fusing enhances in JP (on my new Ur-Senpai =w=) and I got 2 greats, and then a bunch more on other monsters.
My Leilan is crying.
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I don't know what JP looks like right now, but we don't actually have a multiplier right now for Great or Perfect chance. In exchange for the 3x skillups we just have normal experience boost rates, which are fairly low.
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Currently, JP has 3xSkillup too,
if I can read at all.
TBH, I don't really think Hera-Ur Senpai stacks up to Hera-Ur much at all, but she's still cute.
But yeah, I call poverty hackz in the Powerup Fusion.
EDIT: Does JP have both?! Not sure, I can only sorta read.
EDIT2: Yup :P That explains it. So I can read. "3x chance for Skill Lv.UP/3x Large [Great!] and Massive [Super!] Experience Bonuses"
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It appears DC collab is getting yet another reboot.
... Yay?
New ults though, so I guess that's okay.
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Supergirl ult please
well, a new leader skill is alright. I could work with Physical and Healer TPAs like Kirins, Elia, LZL, Kouryuu, Saria, and Sherospada.
but Big Dog only has rows
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Supergirl ult please
well, a new leader skill is alright. I could work with Physical and Healer TPAs like Kirins, Elia, LZL, Kouryuu, Saria, and Sherospada.
but Big Dog only has rows
Supergirl is now x20.25 so that's something
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Hmmmmmm now I'm even more unsure if I want to finally do DC REM pulls fishing for Superman. I don't approve of the Batman Vs. Superman branding one bit, but I like the buffs. The one time I went all-out looking for a collab gold before (Eva collab) it worked, and everyone I know does already own Superman, but still...
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Okay, so is the extra HP trancehime has just from Hypermaxing?
I missed this message, but yes about 4000 or 5000 HP extra is from the fact my entire team is +297
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Is it worth dropping stones for the DC machine at all? I mean, personally, I'd rather have a chance at GFEs and stuff, but if DC characters are that good, then why not, right? At the same time, though, I'm that guy who doesn't like American comics at all (okay, but the PAD rendition of BATMAN is pretty cool I guess), so I would only get them if they are worth putting on a team. I'm not exactly smart enough to know what all of those numbers on PDX mean comparing monster to monster :V
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Don't bother. They're just okay. I love American comics (well, DC) and I have yet to spend a single stone on the collab because the cards are so average. Certainly not bad, I just can't see myself ever using them. Except Superman because I love Superman, but he's rare.
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I just gave a cursory glance at DC new cards, but isn't the new Batman really good for Dark Rows (especially A.Pandora)?
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I missed this message, but yes about 4000 or 5000 HP extra is from the fact my entire team is +297
Try over a fourth of your HP being from plusses. I just did the math, haha. Over 10k HP is because of full HP plusses.
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Batman is crazy good. He's like a combination of every good dark mob and his stats are over the top. Would make an excellent partner for Pandora, in terms of both leader skill similarities and active skill combinations.
I like Supergirl, tho...
I just want her to get doubledongs and her haste in NA already. :c
gaaaaah Queen Metal Dragons are Fenrir skillups
but 88 stamina
and 50% drop rate
my stones are crying
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Just use Badpys, save yourself some pain?
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Yeah Batman is pretty great, but he's a five-star. I suppose I could justify doing DC REM pulls under the logic that even if I don't pull Superman I might get him to replace Zuoh on my Pando team.
But I genuinely don't think I could bring myself to ever play him given that he's derived from arguably the worst scene in arguably the worst DC movie.
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Did a couple rolls just because I had stones and I just don't feel attached to them anymore.
(http://i.imgur.com/1pbjie5.jpg)
Well then.
Edit: huh, he surprisingly does not suck despite being a DKali knockoff. I might have a new project for once.
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But I genuinely don't think I could bring myself to ever play him given that he's derived from arguably the worst scene in arguably the worst DC movie.
Batman and Robin (?)
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Batman and Robin (?)
Batman and Robin is bad, but at least it's harmless. Batman Vs. Superman is an aggressive re-interpretation of the characters and a measured doubling down on everything that was horrible about Man Of Steel. It's an awful movie, but on top of that it's a statement in no uncertain terms that Warner Brothers/DC thinks this direction is a good idea and that they won't be budging from it any time soon.
Batman and Robin has a bit of 60s Adam West charm too that's at least a little bit appealing. Not as much as Batman Forever, but enough to give at least a chance that it won't be completely painful to sit through.
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Did a couple rolls just because I had stones and I just don't feel attached to them anymore.
(http://i.imgur.com/1pbjie5.jpg)
Well then.
Edit: huh, he surprisingly does not suck despite being a DKali knockoff. I might have a new project for once.
....what is it lately with people here rolling some of the dark cards i want the most in my face? :X
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....what is it lately with people here rolling some of the dark cards i want the most in my face? :X
Were you expecting nobody to ever roll any of them? We've got a lot of people, they're inevitably going to pull things.
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8 Hour maintenance on Tuesday, it will probably v8.8 at the least which will remove solo play in co-op dungeons. The solo alternatives will be scattered across the game with tweaks in some cases.
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8 Hour maintenance on Tuesday, it will probably v8.8 at the least which will remove solo play in co-op dungeons. The solo alternatives will be scattered across the game with tweaks in some cases.
rip scarlet and gainaut farming
times to go for pys
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Oh, right, no more trying Legend Plus dungeons on my own either for reduced rates. Sadness. Guess the two will end up sitting and rotting then for a while oh well. I can PROBABLY get away without the grav from Nordis and didn't have a specific place for Z8 anyway, but it's still sorta sad.
Time to make BG Karin again though with my spare for God and/or Dragon-slaying shenanigans!
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So wait, you can't farm the legend plus dungeons anymore? How dumb.
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I think some of them get moved to coin dungeons?
yo somebody here has to want to farm Gainaut with me, right? :V
Or is it just me who wants to use Fenrir here?
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So wait, you can't farm the legend plus dungeons anymore? How dumb.
Rogue dungeons solo will be moved to coin dungeons for a price I currently do not know, and the 1hr timer.
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Were you expecting nobody to ever roll any of them? We've got a lot of people, they're inevitably going to pull things.
Although my post was mostly for selfdeprecation and ironic fun (the one that actually want them see the others be like "oh look, something different popped out"), you don't get much rarer in this game than Escha and a 6* collab gold :V
Of course sooner or later someone among us would roll them, i just hoped against hope that the someone was me :derp:
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(http://i.imgur.com/jv9u2IN.jpg)
Guys I made you this.
Am I cool now?
It's okay, I never really use her. Available for co-ops though...
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Stick to your hipster bloos.
When they become mandatory I might have to start grovelling over at the chat. Fun times ahead.
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So wait, you can't farm the legend plus dungeons anymore? How dumb.
Sure you can, if you've got somebody else living with you for the sole purpose of being your farming teammate :V
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Welp, just went on an adding spree! If someone called Nozome added you, that'd be me.
Speaking of friends and adding and whatnot, could I be added to the OP? Friend ID is 309,400,409, and leads are Verdandi and Attacker Okuninushi.
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Rogue dungeons solo will be moved to coin dungeons for a price I currently do not know, and the 1hr timer.
500K coins for rogue dungeons
1M coins for machine hera/machine zeus
They will get new stones so you sort of want to do them at some point anyway
But I genuinely don't think I could bring myself to ever play him given that he's derived from arguably the worst scene in arguably the worst DC movie.
It is totally not Affleck's fault though. Fuck Snyder tho
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I need to figure out a use for the rest of my +eggs from this event, because my current planned use for them is really, really dumb. Putting them in a Superman might be cool...
It is totally not Affleck's fault though. Fuck Snyder tho
I agree, he did fine. What a waste of a competent performance.
Fun fact: The charity party scene was filmed in an art gallery a mile from my office. Roads were closed for like a week and every local business has a story about Affleck eating there or whatever.
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Hey all, we've finally got our Enhance carnival. Powerup Fusion your monsters away :)
In my fifteen or so rolls, I got a beautiful Queen Metal Dragon.
T_T so majestic.
And I likely won't bring myself to use it :V
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Oh dont worry, you can just farm another from Super King Carnival when you can do that.
Enhance carnival was quite kind. Maxed Set and Isis from fresh-from-REM status. Now to get stuff evolved, because I have grown tired of the farm.
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(http://i.imgur.com/jv9u2IN.jpg)
Guys I made you this.
Am I cool now?
It's okay, I never really use her. Available for co-ops though...
Yup, you are (C)cool. I was already using her when she wasn't pentamax, now i've got even more reasons ;)
Enhance carnival was quite kind. Maxed Set and Isis from fresh-from-REM status. Now to get stuff evolved, because I have grown tired of the farm.
Huh? I must have misunderstood something because i had 50 rolls and i was barely able to bring Zuoh from 60 to max (feeding him everything).... how did you manage to max TWO rem gods?
EDIT: Espa, sometimes it would do you good to reread what you quote at least once..... i thought they were fully evolved /facepalm
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(http://i.imgur.com/0xIBCvC.jpg)
This evo cleared 10 Box Slots :V
Chirei, soon your Skuld will be playing with mine. ^^
Also neat Leilan.
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:o :o
Guess which game has a new advertisement?
This one does! (http://puzzleanddragons.us)
Seriously... Who the hell makes their ads?!
Oh, and cool Skuld :3
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Oh. i meant to fifty, not ninety nine. They arent evolved yet at all, haha. I WISH you could get 8 million EXP that easily!
E: which I'd know you knew already if...I read the addendum myself.
E2: Hikari, that is...not new, haha. I still dont like it, but appreciate it for existing.
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E2: Hikari, that is...not new, haha. I still dont like it, but appreciate it for existing.
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*Pats Hikari in the back*
"You tried, that`s what counts !"
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*Pats Hikari in the back*
"You tried, that`s what counts !"
Says a mother to her un-potty-trained toddler.
About as comforting as soiled pants.
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Well, that`s just mean of you. :V
Also, need 10 more Rank Ups for MIlestone REM Pulls, i`ll be able to get around 4-5 pulls in the REM when i get there.
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(http://imgur.com/YLGPFrh.jpg)
COME ON AND JAM
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I swear Manekimewdra only exists to fuck up 10x descends. It ALWAYS drops. Buff Manekimewdra, make it Physical.
(http://imgur.com/YLGPFrh.jpg)
COME ON AND JAM
Nice evil dog. I like it.
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Ah ha ha my roommate just sent me this. Case in point.
(http://i.imgur.com/536yt6D.jpg)
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I dunno, my rates on that thing seemed to be alright when I ran it earlier this event...Gotta find a source of luck I guess.
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Second evil dog is making good progress. Good, good.
(http://imgur.com/HOotSaU.jpg)
So, since JP Fenrir has a higher max than Ascooby Doobis, does that make Fenrir the one true god-eater?
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Well, that`s just mean of you. :V
Just facetious, sarcastic fun :p
And why does every descend have like dark absorb, makes farming so much more boring and tedious stalling it out
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It's not that every descend likes to have dark absorb specifically, but High Water Ninja is promiscuous as hell.
Fuck that lady.
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Just facetious, sarcastic fun :p
And why does every descend have like dark absorb, makes farming so much more boring and tedious stalling it out
Because otherwise it would just be hands-down the best color. You want to play the arbitrarily stronger color, you deal with the minor inconveniences. And remember that the other colors have to deal with shit like Kraken AND being resisted.
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Just facetious, sarcastic fun :p
And why does every descend have like dark absorb, makes farming so much more boring and tedious stalling it out
Well, you DO get most of the best cards, Light here most of the time gets the short end of the stick. Plus we also get the Resists/Absorbs
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Well, you DO get most of the best cards, Light here most of the time gets the short end of the stick. Plus we also get the Resists/Absorbs
Hey now, let's not get crazy. I mean
Ra Dragon.
White's no shining pinnacle of game balance.
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It's not that every descend likes to have dark absorb specifically, but High Water Ninja is promiscuous as hell.
Fuck that lady.
Her too, but Venus in Hera Sowilo descended, 10 freaking turns.
Because otherwise it would just be hands-down the best color. You want to play the arbitrarily stronger color, you deal with the minor inconveniences. And remember that the other colors have to deal with shit like Kraken AND being resisted.
o yeah, right. I forgot. First world problems. It's spoiling me so bad I died with ASaku yesterday because I forgot how to actually try.
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Hey now, let's not get crazy. I mean
Ra Dragon.
White's no shining pinnacle of game balance.
I said MOST ! Balance is something that`s pretty hard to get right for everything.
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Hey now, let's not get crazy. I mean
Ra Dragon.
White's no shining pinnacle of game balance.
The irony is that it needs 2 dkali
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I said MOST ! Balance is something that`s pretty hard to get right for everything.
Ra Dragon is not an accident. It wasn't a misestimation or an overlooked obscure interaction, it was Gungho sitting down and saying "Let's figure out how to make the best thing in the game, but make sure it's only usable by rich people".
Although to be slightly fair all of the gratuitous Kali knockoffs are making it a little more likely to be usable by non-whales.
The irony is that it needs 2 dkali
Lol yeah.
Also, TWO? I thought they needed five now so you could skill inherit onto RaDra and every sub? ::)
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excuse you the strongest card in the game is carbuncle, watch yourself
Light as a whole really isn't a disenfranchised color though, it's just... kinda AVERAGE in the end. It's dark but not ridiculously broken, so no one really notices how solid it is.
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Yeah I'm certainly not trying to make the point that white is the best or anything. The way I see it the color hierarchy looks something like this:
Black---------------->White-------------------------------->Green----->Red and blue
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Yeah I'm certainly not trying to make the point that white is the best or anything. The way I see it the color hierarchy looks something like this:
Black---------------->White-------------------------------->Green----->Red and blue
I'd put green more equal to blue at best. Blue as an overall is a stupidly strong color, it's just kinda SMALL as to what you actually see.
Green was never really king shit of tri-color, honestly. It just has the most 'popular' leads, and very briefly had catte.
Red is a garbage color for losers though. We can't have a top-tier that doesn't need like 5 duplicate cards ever.
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Farmable SUPER GIRL SKILLUPS?
nice la
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Farmable SUPER GIRL SKILLUPS?
nice la
still don't regret pying supes prime
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Wait, Jormungandr is a regular descend guy instead of a Level Up descend?
This makes him so much easier than Gainaut. I'll take two, please.
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I'd put green more equal to blue at best. Blue as an overall is a stupidly strong color, it's just kinda SMALL as to what you actually see.
Green was never really king shit of tri-color, honestly. It just has the most 'popular' leads, and very briefly had catte.
Red is a garbage color for losers though. We can't have a top-tier that doesn't need like 5 duplicate cards ever.
Yeah good luck getting me to look past "blue cards are just rarer for no reason lololol" when evaluating the colors. I know it doesn't make sense to count that when I didn't count the difficulty of getting RaDra's team, but that's what you get.
I think green's solid spread of support effects is worth a lot. They really hit all the nails on the head and I fucking wish red and blue had that kind of versatility.
Edit: So how does new DC Collab work? Are there just two Lex Luthors and two Doomsdays, or do the new craptastic ones replace the old ones?
Edit edit: What about Raoh? Does he stack one particular sub? Did we decide he sucks after all? I know a collab gold is kind of a bullshit answer to red not having a great lead, but everyone seemed pretty excited about him when he came out and he still looks pretty crazy to me.
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Edit edit: What about Raoh? Does he stack one particular sub? Did we decide he sucks after all? I know a collab gold is kind of a bullshit answer to red not having a great lead, but everyone seemed pretty excited about him when he came out and he still looks pretty crazy to me.
He doesn't, but I don't think he really reached more than 'literally, literally all red has at this point.'
He's good and has a solidish pool though, yes.
Yeah good luck getting me to look past "blue cards are just rarer for no reason lololol" when evaluating the colors. I know it doesn't make sense to count that when I didn't count the difficulty of getting RaDra's team, but that's what you get.
I mean Ra Dra is literally a singular card. Blue is just having it's few key cards, which are specific, but pretty achievable really.
It's kinda 'Have andro or fucking bust', but even then honestly I'm really not convinced even what i've said is accurate of reality.
I'm pretty sure there are far more options these days, Blue just continously has this stigma from days of old (like, 90% of iffy factual statements in PAD) that has never washed away
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Could you add me to the list ? My Main Leaders are A. Drake and Skuld from more recently, i can also run Thor (Evo`d, not awoken one), Wukong and LKali.
ID:383,095,393
Also, Aoshi, would you mind if i add you ? I`d like to use your SchoolThena for my Wood Team. :ohdear:
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There, legit stuff:
For anybody not watching (https://www.twitch.tv/gunghoamerica)
5 Piis and 7 stones. And 7k PAL Points. 1 TAMA. Queen Gold Dungeon.
woot.
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I don`t care about Piis, 6 stones + the dungeon rewards are much better for me. :V
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Do we have modern math on how many stones a pii is worth? If I recall people used to say they were worth 5-6 stones each or something, but now I'm not sure I would trade more than one or two stones for one, and even then that's only if it's a color I particularly want. They're common as shit now and I love them for it.
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Do we have modern math on how many stones a pii is worth? If I recall people used to say they were worth 5-6 stones each or something, but now I'm not sure I would trade more than one or two stones for one, and even then that's only if it's a color I particularly want. They're common as shit now and I love them for it.
Depends on player imo. I don't think they're worth as much as they used to be, what with everything getting skill ups and the skill up rates getting increased. I'd say 1-2 stones at most imo.
Also, why did they buff Angry bird pig while leaving My Melody out in the cold?
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Do we have modern math on how many stones a pii is worth? If I recall people used to say they were worth 5-6 stones each or something, but now I'm not sure I would trade more than one or two stones for one, and even then that's only if it's a color I particularly want. They're common as shit now and I love them for it.
If I'm not mistaken a pii droprate is about 1.5% in the Alt. Dungeons, Unless I'm wrong that's about 1 pii every 67 runs and alt dungeons cost around 20 stamina so that's about 1340 stamina per pii. Assuming you start with a full stamina bar, that's about 7-8 stones assuming you're at around rank 300 and has around 165 stamina.
Thankfully, Piis are given out like candy nowadays so they're barely worth anything anymore.
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If I'm not mistaken a pii droprate is about 1.5% in the Alt. Dungeons, Unless I'm wrong that's about 1 pii every 67 runs and alt dungeons cost around 20 stamina so that's about 1340 stamina per pii. Assuming you start with a full stamina bar, that's about 7-8 stones assuming you're at around rank 300 and has around 165 stamina.
Thankfully, Piis are given out like candy nowadays so they're barely worth anything anymore.
Just keep in mind that if you're running alts that much at rank 300 you're going to rank up a shitload. They have great experience/stamina rates.
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Thankfully, Piis are given out like candy nowadays so they're barely worth anything anymore.
After this, totally. Still updating my post as rewards come by, but at this rate, it's raining Piis like JP. (10 gift dungeons [i think?], 5 piis, 5 tamas)
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GungHo Intern strikes back by winning the challenges and getting extra NA prizes
Intern status = NOT FIRED
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Well, I got reminded about how little damage I do :V
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Just keep in mind that if you're running alts that much at rank 300 you're going to rank up a shitload. They have great experience/stamina rates.
Yep, which should knock off 1-2 stones off the calculation. So your estimate of 5-6 stones is correct.
It's still not really worth that much though, cause they're given so handily nowadays.
It's kind of amazing when the preferred method of getting something is to just have it given to us by the devs. Kinda says something about the RNG in this game.
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The actual prize list:
7000 Pal Points (via mail)
1 TAMADRA (via mail)
3 Super King Gold Dragon Gift Dungeons
5 Random Py Dungeons
2 Magic Stones (via mail)
If the eight gift dungeons are all cleared, this is a total of 10 Stones.
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random Pys you say?
I can GO ALL BADPY?
omg this is a dream
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Ichigo and Eschamali shall eat well.
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Also, Aoshi, would you mind if i add you ? I`d like to use your SchoolThena for my Wood Team. :ohdear:
Just sent you an invite!
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(http://imgur.com/SeUy34u.jpg)
First test indicates Fenrir hits REALLY HARD even pre-buffs
Of course the team comp will change once he becomes a weird jammer rainbow lead?
going for x100 right now is really impractical and I'll wait for Rainbow buff before I try anything serious with him, but it's still crazy fun playing with jammers for once.
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Oh hey speaking of beating up Zeus, time for Zeus Challenge again Monday-Sunday of this week. Standard fare, each guards a jewel, Stratios also has 2 max level globes, yadda yadda. (and of course a stone for the sweep)
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AHHHHHHHH FUCK NEPTUNE !! WHY PUT L/D Resist if the Defense is already bullshit high ?!?!? Rip Stone and Tamadra.
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AHHHHHHHH FUCK NEPTUNE !! WHY PUT L/D Resist if the Defense is already bullshit high ?!?!? Rip Stone and Tamadra.
Do I have to give this speech again? Red gets resisted by all Neptunes,not just that one. Being resisted by like four cards in the whole game is still just way better than the other colors.
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Haha, colors seem to be trigger words of deep-seated angst and trauma.
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Do I have to give this speech again? Red gets resisted by all Neptunes,not just that one. Being resisted by like four cards in the whole game is still just way better than the other colors.
I`m not saying that Light has a bad time often, i know that the RGB Triangle is much more annoying, i`m just venting here, nobody likes doing 8/10 of a dungeon just to hit a roadblock and to turn out that you just wasted precious Stamina and TIme,
So please forgive me if it sounded like that, and relax. :D
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Haha, colors seem to be trigger words of deep-seated angst and trauma.
I'm sure you've noticed me complaining about endgame green enemies resisting my team. I mean, the fact that Vishnu is green is literally the reason Gabriel can't consistently do endgame content.
I`m not saying that Light has a bad time often, i know that the RGB Triangle is much more annoying, i`m just venting here, nobody likes doing 8/10 of a dungeon just to hit a roadblock and to turn out that you just wasted precious Stamina and TIme,
So please forgive me if it sounded like that, and relax. :D
Look, all I'm saying is, if you as a question don't be surprised if someone answers it.
Also, if stamina is very valuable to you though it's probably a good idea to use puzzledragonx.com to scout ahead so that kind of thing won't happen. I mean, if being surprised by an enemy that resists you is a problem then I imagine surprise god bind or big hits at certain HP thresholds is going to be a much more frequent problem. If you're going in without knowing what's ahead you kind of have to expect nasty surprises.
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Also, if stamina is very valuable to you though it's probably a good idea to use puzzledragonx.com to scout ahead so that kind of thing won't happen. I mean, if being surprised by an enemy that resists you is a problem then I imagine surprise god bind or big hits at certain HP thresholds is going to be a much more frequent problem. If you're going in without knowing what's ahead you kind of have to expect nasty surprises.
I did that, but i overlooked Neptune and his Moves after seeing his High Def, i was a bit taken aback by the poison. Other than that, i`m pretty familiar with everything else, the only other concern of mine is Athena`s Combo absorb which will test my skills.
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Haha, colors seem to be trigger words of deep-seated angst and trauma.
running a tri-color is absolute suffering
if you run any of them your color is immediately the worst and the enemies of your opposing color the worst
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(http://i.imgur.com/Kz4PE0R.png)
How does the team look? I get as much damage as double-Pollux procs, but with more HP.
And it's easier.
And I got way farther in EC.
If it looks like I threw stuff at a wall, and picked up what didn't stick, I did.
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The hidden boon of leading with Pollux is that your damage resist is actually really strong, so you end up getting more "effective" HP and RCV.
Of course, Ariel is really strong on her own right as a lead. Triple dongs make anything viable :V
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Well, the plus to this was that I could get the 9x off faster and easier, so most of the time I didn't get hit in the first place. It got me a few floors farther in the first Legendary Normal.
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So after losing all of my phone's data to a factory reset and itunes refusing to restore it, at least I have my PAD account back. Too bad I don't care in the slightest about Bleach. Sandalphon Descend is also impossible for me so that AVenus in't gonna happen anytime soon :V
Maybe I should just do some tama farming. Probably more productive than trying dungeons that I know I can't handle, huh?
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Awoken DQXQ is gonna be a thing
Awoken Ares and Persephone are as expected.
PAD now has an Exodia Rahxephon Robot thing with absurd stats and awakenings
Uhhhhhh Alraune now has a better skill than LMeta?
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(http://imgur.com/SKOUwfg.jpg)
Harumph.
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(http://imgur.com/SKOUwfg.jpg)
Harumph.
The hell ? On-Death Nuke ? So you need to have all that health or is it just to scare you and you clear the dungeon anyway ? Or was it poison ?
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Oh, you definitely die, and the gold egg sits there on the game over screen taunting you to use a continue.
Most enemies have a form of GTFO attack that they use at low HP, and in my struggle with Freyr bound it seems I hit Gainaut within hundreds of HP left.
Belial was active, but it was still Gainaut who had the last laugh...
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Oh, you definitely die, and the gold egg sits there on the game over screen taunting you to use a continue.
Most enemies have a form of GTFO attack that they use at low HP, and in my struggle with Freyr bound it seems I hit Gainaut within hundreds of HP left.
Belial was active, but it was still Gainaut who had the last laugh...
A stray laser rebounded and hit raoh right through the solar plexus, causing a double fatality
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(http://imgur.com/SKOUwfg.jpg)
Harumph.
I AM FULL OF REGRETS FOR THIS LIFE I'VE LED
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Gainaut is at skill level 8 of 11.
This is the least amount of fun I've ever had in PAD. Each run is a 15 minute slog with I&I/Ryune that doesn't deal damage until I use actives, plus the green toy dragon in the middle that takes FOREVER AND A HALF to get through, plus Folklore who loves to use Weight of the Tri-something just before Cattle Mutilation.
Would it be absurd to use Pys for the last 3 skill ups?
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So after losing all of my phone's data to a factory reset and itunes refusing to restore it, at least I have my PAD account back.
Yay!
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Are the awoken Greco-Roman 2 worth it? Their awakenings and stats are pretty lousy compared to their earlier ults and the AS/LS changes just don't seem worth it compared to loss of great awakenings.
On the other hand, Persephone gets Devil again. Hrm.
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(http://i.imgur.com/EErTblF.png)
Should I? I really, really, really want to, but I don't know if it's worth it. And since I've cleared all the other difficulties, I think I'd get another stone from this.
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No, coins are not worth it. Wait and try again.
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:V Okay.
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On the other hand, Persephone gets Devil again. Hrm.
Are TPA Devils even a thing right now? If not, I don't think even she's worth, no, and she's on the better half of the awoken greco-roman 2.0
I mean, Awoken Ares has a lot of damage under his belt but that's about all he's got going for him, and the others are kinda lackluster for Awoken Evos.
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Are the awoken Greco-Roman 2 worth it? Their awakenings and stats are pretty lousy compared to their earlier ults and the AS/LS changes just don't seem worth it compared to loss of great awakenings.
On the other hand, Persephone gets Devil again. Hrm.
I plan on picking up Awoken Ares since I have a spare, same with Awoken Perse, but I honestly think Awoken Persephone got the shaft here compared to the other Greco-Roman 2 awoken ultimates. D/R Persephone is a better Devil ult due to having God Killer IMO. Awoken Persephone is only a marginal upgrade to the D/R Persephone ult and only because of the improved AS.
I mean, Awoken Ares has a lot of damage under his belt but that's about all he's got going for him, and the others are kinda lackluster for Awoken Evos.
Awoken Ares has a niche in providing Red skyfall, something that basically doesn't exist in NA outside of Krishna (JP has Zetton and Bouya [both from CROWS Collab]) and having 2 TPAs with 2244 ATK is nothing to shrug at. Furthermore, being R/G, he can be another option for color coverage in case you don't run R/G Cao Cao or don't have him period. Red TPA is also more of a thing than Dark TPA
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DQXQ became proto-Lightning/Kalicademy there, huh?
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Do people actually like Awoken DQXQ? I'm looking at her now, and I can't say I like what I see. Having to lose to awakening spots to offcolor rows really quesitonable. It seems like a toss up between Dq Qiao and the Awoken tbh. It depends on if you'd ratehr have Da Qiaos bind recovery or the Awoken's 3rd row. I was hoping Kanna could have a cool buddy too.
EDIT: Read it again and saw it was 5+ orbs. My bad. I wonder how many orbs they'll need for the full multiplier though. 100x empowered by rows is pretty respectable.
Double EDIT: Lately PAD has been freezing midmatch for me. Has anyone had this problem?
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Double EDIT: Lately PAD has been freezing midmatch for me. Has anyone had this problem?
Not me, I've gotten some minor lag mid-match in JP, but on my NA account it's smooth.
At a con today while I was comboing some stuff, someone passed by and said, "Oh hey, he plays PAD."
So I'm not invisible :derp:
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I did get some lately, it screw up my setups sometimes, any ideas as to why ?
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That mismatch freezing probably happens when the music loops.
Congrats, you have the problem I've had for over a year now.
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That mismatch freezing probably happens when the music loops.
Congrats, you have the problem I've had for over a year now.
Yeah, I've had it for a while, but I never got around to mentioning it. Speaking of getting around to things, did Antonio ever get back to you on it?
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Of course not. No matter how much I try, they won't do shit about it. Probably never will.
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Damn. Think uninstalling and reinstalling might work?
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I have tried literally everything. Nothing works. You name it, I've probably tried it. Best to just get used to it.
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I have tried literally everything. Nothing works. You name it, I've probably tried it. Best to just get used to it.
Ah..I haven't been playing that much lately and I'm still pretty annoyed by it. Idk how you do it.
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The only thing you can do is play around it. So don't do any matching when the song is about to end rofl
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AAAAAGHHHHH
(http://imgur.com/HPgQy3S.jpg)
it happened
No Pys
I'm so done with this dungeon
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(http://i.imgur.com/yAjKjAN.jpg)
Well indeed I have completed the DC Collab REM (I already own Supergirl, Aquaman, Batwoman+Batgirl and Green Arrow) in 5 rolls. Not touching this again!
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I got bored and did pad hunger games over IRC, relinked here for people who were not there.
The contestants:
(http://i.imgur.com/HhKjAyo.png)
Dawn of the First Day (http://imgur.com/a/95DFg)
Night of the First Day (http://imgur.com/a/CxHKp)
Night of the Second Day (http://imgur.com/a/IusGP)
Disaster Strikes (http://imgur.com/a/lXLoU)
The End (http://imgur.com/a/uPkT8)
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Alraune and Astaroth were so resilient ;;
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The surreal image of hello kitty chasing medjedra is now forever etched into my mind.
And poor skuld, how the heck does someone miss a freaking t-rex with a bow and arrow.
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It's time to unveil my secret project.
(http://imgur.com/sEtKz3x.jpg)
I've been wanting to make a gimmick team around an Evangelion card as a lead since the moment I started playing, and I've always kind of assumed it would be Misato since she's technically the best lead. But due to recent-ish buffs my favorite cards all work as Shinji subs now. He's basically just a way worse Gabriel, so I think I can pull this off. My goal is probably going to be to beat every descend with him as a lead.
Here's the team I have for now (it's obviously not finished yet):
(http://imgur.com/c9jb8VQ.jpg)
I'd like to replace Kraken Rider with a bind clear eventually, but there aren't a ton of options unsurprisingly. Ruka would work and I may end up using her although she's extremely unreliable. Hopefully something eventually comes out to fill that slot, but that isn't really the team's biggest problem either way so I'm not suuuper worried about it. And in the mean time I finally have an excuse to use Kraken Rider and she is super cool, so good.
I plan on pairing with my roommate's Shinji when possible, but I'll use a Ryune friend if I need to.
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okay so trying to practice one true God eater on endless corridors
I've never had a Kali active before, so using Gainaut for the first time was WTFFFFFF
Also Gainaut spawns hearts so it's a bit of "empty" matches there (which is funny because jammers are supposed to be the empty matches)
Moreover, Gainaut likes to spawn only four or five jammers. It's difficult to gauge my damage when the x25 for four jammers will eventually be x156.25 for four jammers and five colors matched.
None of my friend Fenrirs are skillmaxed so the jammer upkeep is a little taxing.
Can't wait to add Jormangandr and his double time extend.
When Jormangandr debuts, would a good Fenrir team be Fenrir/Fenrir/Awoken Amaterasu/Gainaut/Jorman/Fenrir?
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It's time to unveil my secret project.
(http://imgur.com/sEtKz3x.jpg)
I've been wanting to make a gimmick team around an Evangelion card as a lead since the moment I started playing, and I've always kind of assumed it would be Misato since she's technically the best lead. But due to recent-ish buffs my favorite cards all work as Shinji subs now. He's basically just a way worse Gabriel, so I think I can pull this off. My goal is probably going to be to beat every descend with him as a lead.
Here's the team I have for now (it's obviously not finished yet):
(http://imgur.com/c9jb8VQ.jpg)
I'd like to replace Kraken Rider with a bind clear eventually, but there aren't a ton of options unsurprisingly. Ruka would work and I may end up using her although she's extremely unreliable. Hopefully something eventually comes out to fill that slot, but that isn't really the team's biggest problem either way so I'm not suuuper worried about it. And in the mean time I finally have an excuse to use Kraken Rider and she is super cool, so good.
I plan on pairing with my roommate's Shinji when possible, but I'll use a Ryune friend if I need to.
get in the fuckin' robot shinji, you're gonna be going for a long ride
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The surreal image of hello kitty chasing medjedra is now forever etched into my mind.
And poor skuld, how the heck does someone miss a freaking t-rex with a bow and arrow.
when you're a granny with bad eyesight
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Oh hey guys I just realized, if today isn't over for you yet, today's the last day of half priced coin dungeons!
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(http://i.imgur.com/20x9lZ7.png)
Tyrannos, my dear, I love you and everything but... how the hell did you think that was a good idea? I mean, I'm happy that you finally got arms that aren't completely useless and all, but that's a very deadly object that's probably not even 1% of your size and you're trying to handle it when your fingers are claws and you don't even have anything that passes for opposable thumbs? With mechanical arms even?!
I mean, come on.
(That was very enjoyable chirei, thank you for doing this.)
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Of course Batman won lol
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District 6 too strongk BV
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Dawn of Day 1, Amaterasu breaks Batman's nose.
Just before tsunami, Batman kills Amaterasu with her own weapon.
Just like the comic books - losing the first time, then coming back with a plan to win.
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Hmmmn, Batman, a hero who has vowed never to take a life, winning in a murdering contest. That sounds so familiar... Now where ever could I gave hard that somewhere before? Recently even?
*CoughZackSnydercoughcoughworstmoviecough.*
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Field testing pre-buff Fenrir
First thing that happens in Zeus Vulcan
"Chaos Eye"
Hey, thanks!
In actual descends, his damage is QUITE satisfactory. This pleases me greatly.
Having three God Killers makes (http://imgur.com/2Te7yI8.jpg)
Zeus rather easy (http://i.imgur.com/YiCBqhz.jpg)
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*CoughZackSnydercoughcoughworstmoviecough.*
I mean Frank Miller's Batman is still a thing.
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I mean Frank Miller's Batman is still a thing.
Frank Miller is also quite a goober, but at least The Dark Knight comes off as a tiny bit self-parodic and doesn't paint Batman as the absolute good guy. Or maybe I'm weighing The Dark Knight Strikes Again too heavily in my evaluation, but that should count for at least a little. Not that I'm defending him mind you. I'm not touching All-Star Batman with a ten foot clown-pole.
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Hmmmn, Batman, a hero who has vowed never to take a life, winning in a murdering contest. That sounds so familiar... Now where ever could I gave hard that somewhere before? Recently even?
*CoughZackSnydercoughcoughworstmoviecough.*
he only murdered in self defense mang
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My limited exposure of batman comes from that one comic where he's insane and has a stubble and kidnaps robin on the flying batmobile (which was my first exposure to him, thanks to which I find any cleanly shaved batmen rather lacking). Also the Dark Knight movie trilogy and more recently, the court of owls comic.
Two of them he's crazy or goes crazy and one of them is a fountain of memes, I'm not terribly surprised to encounter anything at this point.
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x16 on Zeus Vulcan? Nah, that won't kill (https://youtu.be/qyfKw7yzGQ8)
wtf was that combo at the end though seriously
I'm gonna take a chill pill from posting about Fenrir again until his buffs ACTUALLY come out. :V
edit: how does one obtain a Lil' Red Dragon at this point? I've had zero luck getting one off Zeus Vulcan.
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I think Sonia-Gran's dungeon has a decent drop rate for the ripper that spawns? That's about it. PDX is listing the following as drop locations for Lil' Red and its various forms:
-Vesta Cave(Pfft yeah)
-Volcano of Vulcan(See above)
-Zeus-Vulcan and various reappearances thereof
-Sonia-Gran and reappearances thereof
-Alt. Starlight Sanctuary(Which we do not have)
-Wadatsumi Tournament(I don't THINK we had him yet, but I don't remember and even if we didn't he's not up right NOW.)
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Yep pretty much just farm granny sonia
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-Volcano of Vulcan(See above)
Well, that's how I got my little MVD
That said, yeah, the Ripper Dragons are pretty RIP since they were removed from the PEM.
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-Alt. Starlight Sanctuary(Which we do not have)
I'm actually not even sure if this exists in the game anymore...
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*Meanwhile, at Raf's PAD HQ.*
-Sir ! Technicals now have extra drop rates !
-What ?!? Get our Thoria down there right now ! Put our Newly Assembled Raf-Chirei Blue Team there too ! We need more Pengdras and +eggs !
-Aye Aye Commander !
Pretty much what happens on my head.
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So. Hera Dragon is just tsukuyomi dragon with better stats, a gravity, an hp boost, and worse awakenings.
Sigh.
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So. Hera Dragon is just tsukuyomi dragon with better stats, a gravity, an hp boost, and worse awakenings.
Sigh.
They're all meant to be hp-boosting analogues to the MP dragons since they all boost RCV, so I'm not sure what was expected here.
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Something slightly less redundant?
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It woukd be pretty weird for them not to finish the pattern though now that it's established. And pretty fucking irritaring for me if they established a pattern of mediocrity, then decided to buck it specifically for black.
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It woukd be pretty weird for them not to finish the pattern though now that it's established. And pretty fucking irritaring for me if they established a pattern of mediocrity, then decided to buck it specifically for black.
I mean they kinda did that for green though.
Which is why it's slightly less shit than the rest.
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Oh yeah, so they did. I don't know that they really had that much of a choice since Odin Dragon doesn't really have a leader skill, but that's a fair point.
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Oh yeah, so they did. I don't know that they really had that much of a choice since Odin Dragon doesn't really have a leader skill, but that's a fair point.
They actually could've slapped a hp mod and called it a change, since odin's D does have a rcv modifier. It'd be awful though.
So in that one case, they decided the color deserved better.
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I can't say I've been paying that much attention to them to even realize there was a series of them. I just thought they were additional instances of overall powerful but generic MP dragons.
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Well you're not that far off. They're just a bunch of instances of overall powerful-minus-Awakenings generic ultraboss dragons designed to pair with their respective gen 1 MP dragon.
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Anyone have a bunch of multiplayer dungeons they still need to beat too before tonight's update for the stone? Figured I'd pair up since it would be quicker and safer for a few of the later ones. Preferably not the descended ones since I'm not too comfortable with those. Might ask on the irc if I don't get a response here.
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https://www.facebook.com/notes/puzzle-dragons-europe/version-88-patch-notes/830075003763474
PAD EU has 8.8 now
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(http://i.imgur.com/1TeODR4l.png)(http://i.imgur.com/A3WDcnnl.png)
New goal: Solo all Rogue dungeon on Mythical Plus difficulty with bastet
Jormungandr and Skill inheritance have opened up new possibilities for bastet and those rogue myth plus dungeons are finally looking more managable for bastet!
Not to mention I finally pulled a Kaede!
Currently no-stoned Zaerog8 and Linthia.
I have Baggi on Bastet and Zhydra on Elize.
tbh out of the remaining four, Volsung probably seems the most possible next.
But I'll be trying to figure something out for the other three!
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(http://i.imgur.com/27Wccdy.jpg)
Oh hey, this lady's finally out.
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(http://i.imgur.com/27Wccdy.jpg)
Oh hey, this lady's finally out.
"You hear a roar of triumph echoing from very far away"
> Uevo Panda get
> Uevo Zuoh get
> Uevo Typhon get
> Uevo Voice get shit he isn't maxlevel yet
Yeah, i was awaiting this update JUST A BIT :derp:
EDIT: Oh look at that poor wood snow dragon all alone in my box..... and i don't have any wood card to level up.... but i DO have about 10 rolls in the pem........
Uevo Voice GET :V
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While running Corpse Dragon for the stone today, I noticed
(http://imgur.com/dUxwZ9X.jpg)
We Rainbow now, boys.
And this is with just THREE JAMMERS
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A "hidden", amusing buff was added to the english-speaking servers...
(http://i.imgur.com/WRiq2VR.png)
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Rats, they're not otters anymore.
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The row based, bind-immune cyberdragons received a row heal.
I suppose I can use Sadalmelik for actual cleric purposes when Andromeda gets hit herself?
Considering the abundance of skill bind resists on Awoken I&I and Alrescha, I'm not even bothered by Cyberdragons not having any SBR. <3
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The row based, bind-immune cyberdragons received a row heal.
Jesus christ. Now I really need a Diadem for Batman <_<
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People shit on the ninja buffs, and they're not wrong to do so, but I gotta say I'm going to be glad to have all those glasses for ranking dungeons.
Also, I guess I never looked at Linka closely enough to notice how adorbs she is. Top three cutest PADs probably. I'm glad she's exactly as slightly underwhelming as she is because if she was just a tiny bit better I might be tempted to buy her.
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Who do bindable mons even have bind clears? It's like the most redundant awakening to have if I have to bring like Sleeping Beauty to unbind my APandas to unbind stuff, which by then will probably have been unbound. What in the what the what-what, bindho.
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Bind clears on bindable monsters do still have uses. Subs can help with leader binds, they're useful for random binds or type binds hitting other cards, etc. Yeah, if you have an unbindable bind clear as well they're less useful, but stacking bind clears is always diminishing returns.
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I suppose...
I've died like numerous times getting only my two leader APandas bound, then getting killed because of reduced health. I'm trying to imagine what the 'combined team health' could mean in a practical sense, like a team sharing health what? Maybe it's more like team morale, because it's not like your mons actually die, and then it would make sense for your 'health'/morale to decrease if your leaders get bound. But then my imagination runs wild and I'm like, then HP modifiers are more like CHARISMA modifiers, like "I'm on your team betch, get hype!!!!! x1.25(2), woot woooot!!!!!", followed by all the puzzles and waifus/husbandos/furries/dargons getting sexual convulsions and flushed complexions and breezing through dungeons with increased 'morale'.
Wow that got weird quick.
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I mean yeah, that's why Gabriel has a 2x HP and RCV modifier. Too bad he's such a bondage entheusiast. Dude's a bind magnet is what I'm saying. And his safeword is "Snow White".
I just realized the alts being technical now means they now have a challenge mode. That's going to be interesting.
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as a former beelzebub main
can definitely confirm
everybody wants to bind HP leads
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I mean yeah, that's why Gabriel has a 2x HP and RCV modifier. Too bad he's such a bondage entheusiast. Dude's a bind magnet is what I'm saying. And his safeword is "Snow White".
I feel like that would quite augment morale for certain units tho :V
Angels in bondage sounds pretty hot
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I feel like that would quite augment morale for certain units tho :V
Angels in bondage sounds pretty hot
All of Gabe's subs minions are real dumb and they panic the second they can't see his face. They have weak object permanence.
I'm not against angels in bondage, but I'd prefer they keep their hobbies off of the battlefield. Playing with the enemy is counterproductive.
Hey, there's some weird design space for Gungho. Now that we've got jammer meta how about bondage meta? Let's get a leader skill that scales off of number of bound teammates and a new drawback for actives that binds self or others after use. That would open them up to all sorts of crappy farmable Kalis.
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So Awilda meta then
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So Awilda meta then
Ha ha oh shit would whale for.
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Oh shit ! Wukong and Skuld UEvos are out !!!
Go go go !
......oh, i don't have angelits.... or jewels....
I still got the masks though ! ^^
Seriously, i really wish PAD had evo mat trading, i have 3 devilits and 2 Dark Jewels here in my box dusty as hell, would pay to trade them to Espadas for angelits and Light Jewels.
Edit: Nevermind, i have 2 blue ones :V , but i have a plan ! Can anyone put a NepDra up ? Maybe Commander ?
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Speaking of Jammer meta
I accidentally did a lot of damage dicking around
(http://imgur.com/OkxNRRD.jpg)
if any of those light orbs aligned would have been the difference between 2.25x and 4x right there
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(http://i.imgur.com/7DN8PIw.jpg)
Well, i got one bonus UEvo from this update. \o/
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Man, he's gonna be huge if you get him plussed, huh?
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I need so many Tamadras all the sudden. Super Panda, Zuoh, and Hanzo all need more suddenly, and Shinji, Awoken Neptune, and Kraken Rider need to be awakened from scratch. Tamadra Town plz.
Can anyone put a NepDra up ? Maybe Commander ?
NepDra's been up all day. And I don't believe anyone else on here owns one, at least in NA, so if you want him you pretty much only have one option. :V
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Weird, i can't seem to find him, he's the lynchpin for farming the masks since the poison is just OP, plus a SBR to guarantee the 100% success rate and 1.5x RCV for stalling.
I just ran it with a ROdin and didn't get bound, but it was a Blue Mask Drop ...
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Might possibly be the 1-hour time limit that's imposed when you're at least 100 rank lower than ccool-aid might be.
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Maybe I accidentally deleted you during a friend cleanup? Or maybe I just hadn't logged in for a few hours. I have now.
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(http://i.imgur.com/nIhB2pA.jpg)
I got a Green One. :P
Whoa, Chirei is still at it, just saw his new avatar.....now i'm thinking about a fight between my Skuld vs Chirei's. :V
Mine will be raised with love and care and become a HEROINE ! (She'll still have to farm her own eggs and Tamadras like everyone else !)
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Christ, I forgot how many skillups Medjed needs to get maxed.
On a related note, I forgot how good Medjed is. Too bad my Verdandi team is already running two things without skillboosts. Hopefully there's an event Armadel upcoming with the same badass awakenings as the other event grimoires. That would make up for it completely.
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(http://i.imgur.com/nIhB2pA.jpg)
I got a Green One. :P
Whoa, Chirei is still at it, just saw his new avatar.....now i'm thinking about a fight between my Skuld vs Chirei's. :V
Mine will be raised with love and care and become a HEROINE ! (She'll still have to farm her own eggs and Tamadras like everyone else !)
Norns do not have a concept of good or evil.
They are primordial beings that transcend gods, and very literally hold fast the threads that keep the world together. They are natural, unaffiliated forces that embody the fate of all who live. When you die, they simply see it as a thing "that must happen", and cut your thread. Challenging that is equivalent to trying to defy universal laws.
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But there's a time they leave all that behind and go have fun. (Or attempt a romantic affair with a mortal, as it seems.) :V
So enough with playtime, was this the first Py Dungeon ? I got lucky and a Water one appeared first try.
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Hmm, a Shynpy would've been nice, but I got a Flamepy instead. At least I can skill-up Leilan now. I think though, that I'll save it for a monster with rare skill-up materials, because I'd rather be smart.
I'm gonna make a temporary ETS I&I team soon, too, since I (finally) got a Divine Indigo Mask.
So enough with playtime, was this the first Py Dungeon ?
And yes, yes it was. It says [1] next to the dungeon name.
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Hmm, a Shynpy would've been nice, but I got a Flamepy instead. At least I can skill-up Leilan now. I think though, that I'll save it for a monster with rare skill-up materials, because I'd rather be smart.
Just keep in mind that you can leave the dungeon via the menu in the upper right corner and re-enter to get a different one. You'll lose ten stamina each time obviously, but as a nice bonus you'll get to keep the pal points even if you don't finish the dungeon. You could get all Shynpy if you wanted to by doing that.
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this isn't even her final form
(http://i.imgur.com/uupd2Jum.png)(http://i.imgur.com/qrndfQnm.png)(http://i.imgur.com/1Aleq1cm.png)(http://i.imgur.com/c6vI0E6m.png)
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It literally isn't. She still has a big upgrade incoming.
Meanwhile I am perpetually screwed by py dungeons by giving me the most worthless pys
rip stam
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Guess the most I got from the update was the killer alt uvos somewhere and Alnair getting a bind clear, ahaha. I don't even know if I should bother with Cao Cao's first evo tho.
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That 299 Stamina bar. Agggghhh ! The agony ! Just hit 300 already !
Also, who is the helper ?
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Christ, I forgot how many skillups Medjed needs to get maxed.
On a related note, I forgot how good Medjed is. Too bad my Verdandi team is already running two things without skillboosts. Hopefully there's an event Armadel upcoming with the same badass awakenings as the other event grimoires. That would make up for it completely.
Id expect Halloween Armadel maybe, but perhaps you will be lucky and she becomes a summer variant. Keep your fingers crossed!
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Guess the most I got from the update was the killer alt uvos somewhere and Alnair getting a bind clear, ahaha. I don't even know if I should bother with Cao Cao's first evo tho.
If it's not RG Cao Cao it's wrong, unless you are making a row team with him. (his other ult got a second row or something, right?)
EDIT: Whoops double posted TOO BAD I GUESS.
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Hey, can anyone recommend me a team build for doing Twinlit Dungeon ? Need those Angelits badly.
I have a A. Hera Gravity and a Naga delay for now.
Would a Sakuya/Grav/Delay/LKali/Wildcard/A. Sakuya work ?
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If it's not RG Cao Cao it's wrong, unless you are making a row team with him. (his other ult got a second row or something, right?)
EDIT: Whoops double posted TOO BAD I GUESS.
:fail:
r/d cao cao got a killer and row yes
making him no longer completely useless, and actually potentially better than r/g as a whole depending on enemy
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Also, who is the helper ?
Awoken Orochi (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2322). I have an ultramax one, just message me if you ever want to use him.
Hey, can anyone recommend me a team build for doing Twinlit Dungeon ? Need those Angelits badly.
I have a A. Hera Gravity and a Naga delay for now.
Would a Sakuya/Grav/Delay/LKali/Wildcard/A. Sakuya work ?
Gravity isn't necessary. This is how Friday dungeon works:
First floor: Everything is super soft but you lose if you don't kill them all. Just make sure you don't have an incredibly slow team, any combo activation for a combo team or one row for a row team should take care of it.
Second floor: Probably the most dangerous floor just in case the Dublits all spawn on two-turn timers. If they don't, chip them down with priority to the ones going soonest. If they are, hopefully you have a backup plan. An Awoken Ra friend could be good for this. Or you could just have enough HP to tank one hit which should take care of it 95% of the time, but synchronized enemy spawns with a bad board can still technically mess you up.
Third floor: If you've used any actives up to now just take this floor slow to stall them back. Chip the Dublits, although be careful the Tamadra doesn't spread his binds too thin and make that difficult. There's an art to doing this involving focusing one Dublit on the first turn, then focusing on the other one on subsequent turns and activating as many prongs as your team has. This should chip both of them down while leaving the Tamadra untouched. Then stall off the binds (this can potentially take a very long time if you're getting unlucky, and keep in mind that you don't need to actually make matches to remove binds so there's no risk of accidentally killing Tamadra) or use a bind clear and finish it off.
Fourth floor: You should have all your actives, so just win at this point using whatever means are necessary.
So all you really need is a way to guarantee you can finish off the first floor in one attack regardless of board state, and enough damage output to take care of the fourth floor with all your actives. It helps to have a panic button for the second floor and/or a bind clear for the third floor, but those are really just for farming consistency. They shouldn't come up often enough to actually matter if you just need to run it a few times to grab some Twinlits.
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r/d cao cao got a killer and row yes
making him no longer completely useless, and actually potentially better than r/g as a whole depending on enemy
I completely forgot about the killer. Ok yeah he's legit. Apologies. Maybe I should just not type today, haha.
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I completely forgot about the killer. Ok yeah he's legit. Apologies. Maybe I should just not type today, haha.
I don't think anyone can blame you for forgetting about him, buffs and all, really. :v He's been overshadowed so long.
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If it's not RG Cao Cao it's wrong, unless you are making a row team with him. (his other ult got a second row or something, right?)
Well, I do have strawberry dragon and rodin, so that's actually not a bad idea?
E: And Yukimura too. Hmm. This is looking very nice now.
E2: And shiva too. Can go rows!
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Mmm, I think I can clear Extreme Endless with Fenrir. But it'll be tough. I might sub out Yomidora for Lizzy because it'll be something defensive.
Beelzebub is a big middle finger. Gotta have Gainaut charged for that. I'll just hold off until Gainaut is actually evolved, though.
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Gah. All the final enemies in Extreme Endless are not gods, but dragons. Will need to burst even haaarder.
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Shinfa: Because you really wanted to spend 300k MP to use Typhon.
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Gah. All the final enemies in Extreme Endless are not gods, but dragons. Will need to burst even haaarder.
Your lead can reach 100x atk ! That shouldn't be too troublesome for ya, nor like it will have Kali's health.... right ?
And will try that Twinlit strat, i dunno if Double Sakuya's for a 20x atk min with a 36 % total gravity damage would take care of everything, maybe i can add Thor for the 1.5x boost and LKali for the anti-orbtroll, fifth spot is still wildcard.
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So they're really cranking out that DC collab for us since we're getting it so quickly. Batman is like the only thing I'd consider rolling for and even that annoys me since I already worked hard for haku+akechi. Everything else bar superman kinda sucks. Besides which, wouldn't making batman have god killer make more sense commercial-wise? What with the whole man vs god thing they had going.
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Gief Terminator collab! John Connor with 5 machine killer awakenings!
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Shinfa: Because you really wanted to spend 300k MP to use Typhon.
So good. No sub pool. A+++
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So they're really cranking out that DC collab for us since we're getting it so quickly. Batman is like the only thing I'd consider rolling for and even that annoys me since I already worked hard for haku+akechi. Everything else bar superman kinda sucks. Besides which, wouldn't making batman have god killer make more sense commercial-wise? What with the whole man vs god thing they had going.
Superman is not God-Type ingame. Dc collab Batman is designed to be super effective against Supes, much like Superman's got I believe Devil Killer to fight Batman. Not that youd run into either of em as enemies, but thematically speaking.
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BEYZUL BUUUUUUFF! Beyzul, Wangren, and Threedoa now have a four-turn minimum skill cooldown instead of six. That's technically relevant although it isn't going to matter in a vast majority of cases.
I'm trying to think of a single specific situation where that makes the difference between clearing something and losing and I got nothing, but at least it means Gungho remembers he exists. Aside from just as am evo material I mean.
Edit: Skill inheritance. That's what this matters for.
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Superman is not God-Type ingame. Dc collab Batman is designed to be super effective against Supes, much like Superman's got I believe Devil Killer to fight Batman. Not that youd run into either of em as enemies, but thematically speaking.
Ben Affleck Batman is an enemy in the BvS Collab Dungeon
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And will try that Twinlit strat, i dunno if Double Sakuya's for a 20x atk min with a 36 % total gravity damage would take care of everything, maybe i can add Thor for the 1.5x boost and LKali for the anti-orbtroll, fifth spot is still wildcard.
My first time clearing Twinlits was done with an LMeta team which has a x12,25 multiplier. Any subsequent times were done with Vishnu which has an identical multiplier (although Vishnu also has prongs up his ass.)
x20 atk is definitely enough, especially with the gravities.
BEYZUL BUUUUUUFF! Beyzul, Wangren, and Threedoa now have a four-turn minimum skill cooldown instead of six. That's technically relevant although it isn't going to matter in a vast majority of cases.
I'm trying to think of a single specific situation where that makes the difference between clearing something and losing and I got nothing, but at least it means Gungho remembers he exists. Aside from just as am evo material I mean.
Edit: Skill inheritance. That's what this matters for.
Still waiting the day where they get an UVO that requires PADRadar stuff but ends up making them actually relevant.
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Been a while since I last posted in here, hasn't it
(http://i.imgur.com/VnmgwN7l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/VnmgwN7.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/S4ghrxtl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/S4ghrxt.jpg)
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Ben Affleck Batman is an enemy in the BvS Collab Dungeon
Well would you look at that. I havent looked at the info yet, but I guess it's relevant now since we're getting said collab right after Bleach.
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Well would you look at that. I havent looked at the info yet, but I guess it's relevant now since we're getting said collab right after Bleach.
Yeah, I've been farming BvS with a Cloud team.
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BEYZUL BUUUUUUFF! Beyzul, Wangren, and Threedoa now have a four-turn minimum skill cooldown instead of six. That's technically relevant although it isn't going to matter in a vast majority of cases.
I'm trying to think of a single specific situation where that makes the difference between clearing something and losing and I got nothing, but at least it means Gungho remembers he exists. Aside from just as am evo material I mean.
Edit: Skill inheritance. That's what this matters for.
dangit now i have to skill threedia again
Also consider that this means that if you use a switch mid-dungeon, you now have to wait one less turn (and even less than that if you haste) to swap back. Since you can now use Beyzul in multiplayer, this also matters a great deal since skill charging is weird there.
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oh lookshmi finally gaurantees her LS
it's only been long enough to irrelevate her
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dangit now i have to skill threedia again
Also consider that this means that if you use a switch mid-dungeon, you now have to wait one less turn (and even less than that if you haste) to swap back. Since you can now use Beyzul in multiplayer, this also matters a great deal since skill charging is weird there.
Right, it does matter, although it's usually the case that you can either stall well enough to swap back or you can't. Speeding it up by a bit doesn't really change that very often. Good point about co-op though, that'll be very handy.
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not gonna lie
the second Fenrir buff would have made Sonia Gran a lot less scary
Your lead can reach 100x atk ! That shouldn't be too troublesome for ya, nor like it will have Kali's health.... right ?.
funny thing about that
Pretty sure my Fenrir can OHKO Kali's god-typing if Zaerogoo is even marginally helpful (http://imgur.com/LXVXlNh)
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First Mythical Plus clear+solo.
(http://i.imgur.com/B8hjqcw.png) (http://i.imgur.com/6dnSZdY.png)
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Oh hey, we were just talking about that. Good on you!
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... well, I can hope of clearing those things with Fenrir once Jormangandr and poison debuts.
None of those dungeons really feature gods, hm, either, hm.
No problem. I got this. Still, congrats!
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9 Py Runs:
3 Woodpys
2 Badpys
4 Flampys
Wanted Bubpy or Shypy.
RNG gonna be RNG. :V
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Well at least it's only 10 stamina.
I've encountered a similar form of harassment, only it was with jewels. Like 12 runs, about 8 of which were Karin.
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Wanted Bubpy or Shypy.
RNG gonna be RNG. :V
Meanwhile, in the land of Luck,
Woodpy.
And then Shynpy.
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"No way! I won't let you end this just yet!!"
(http://i.imgur.com/x3bDtZtm.png) (http://i.imgur.com/oUxygohm.png)
I seriously only won because the Latent invaded Antikythera. Skill Inheritance is probably required for Myth+...
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Bubpy finally ! After 12 Runs.
And i`ll have to do this 6 more times if i`m not wrong.
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I've said quite a few times that blue gets the short end of the stick in a lot of things. Maybe not the shortest end, but a short end. You know where blue gets off like a bandit though? Alt dungeons.
Probably the most dangerous enemy in alts is probably Red Cap, since alts love to spam him on like every other last floor and his skill delay plus his gravity is an extremely potent combo. Blue is super effective against him, so it's easier for it to one-shot him and avoid the gravity. And meanwhile the blue variant on Red Cap, Kappa, isn't particularly dangerous (especially now that his preemptive is nerfed) and actually feed you tons and tons of ammo. The green member of this series, Furi, is the least dangerous of any of them so even though it takes blue a while to kill her she can't really do that much.
Meanwhile, farming alts with green seems like it would be pretty irritating. Being resisted by Red Cap might lead to some random accidental losses, and being super effective against Kappa isn't that useful since it still slows you down with a preemptive and beyond that isn't that dangerous. Cath Palug is a problem for everyone, sure, but beyond that blue has a big leg up in current alts. Even white, a color super effective against the dangerous Cath Palug and not resisted by anyone, doesn't get the constant flow of ammo from Kappa and is instead slowed down by it.
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I don't know what I was expecting with Hel's new evo, but I'm a bit underwhelmed. Like when you ask your friend for 'anything' when they're going out on a food run, only to receive like two cheeseburgers and medium fries or something. Was I expecting a seven course meal? No, but I'm still underwhelmed. At least the awakenings aren't terrible, they're pretty good. If only they could make her active less random or added something cool to her leader skill. I'll just hold out hopes for a sarasvati evo in this buff rush, having only 4 awakenings is pretty dismal.
In other news, at least 10x descends is back again starting tonight so I can finally finish up my APanda, hoorrayyy
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Christ, what am I going to do with another 10x descends? I'm running out of dumb stunt options.
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Christ, what am I going to do with another 10x descends? I'm running out of dumb stunt options.
Not be strapped to them and instead able to progress in other ways? = D
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Oh yeah... They are optional, aren't they? :wat:
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Christ, what am I going to do with another 10x descends? I'm running out of dumb stunt options.
Oh yeah... They are optional, aren't they? :wat:
Just make plus holders or fodder and wait til something you want to max comes along
That's what I do, anyway
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In other news, at least 10x descends is back again starting tonight so I can finally finish up my APanda, hoorrayyy
oh boy I finally get to finish Susanoo because there's always a strange lack of ATK eggs this game.
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oh boy I finally get to finish Susanoo because there's always a strange lack of ATK eggs this game.
I always get too many ATK eggs but not enough RCV.
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Aaand we also have 30 descended dungeons to feast on in the upcoming challenge descended. I like that they're doing this when we have 10x going on, but I don't have enough stamina for all this!? GF is coming up too, pandora's in it, I'm wondering if I should roll for another (awoken? or uuevo? which is better as a sub?) panda. And then BvS rem is coming out tooaaaaa too much stufffa
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What a Gran event.
(http://i.imgur.com/V0VH8xf.jpg)
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Yay, past Rank 100!
Oh, and Dub-Mythlits hate me. Only the Dub-Topalits drop :P
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Yay, past Rank 100!
Oh, and Dub-Mythlits hate me. Only the Dub-Topalits drop :P
Wanna trade lucks ?
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My tablet with PAD died on me, and left me without the secret code. Here's hoping my account retrieval request bears fruit despite not having it.
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My tablet with PAD died on me, and left me without the secret code. Here's hoping my account retrieval request bears fruit despite not having it.
I've seen that happen to a few different people and it always worked out. Relatively quickly even. Gungho seems pretty good about account stuff.
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I've seen that happen to a few different people and it always worked out. Relatively quickly even. Gungho seems pretty good about account stuff.
Nice to know! Still, I regret not making my regular bind codes. The moment I get it back, I'm screenshotting that secret code. *Crosses fingers*
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Have you ever spent any money at all in-game? I don't know if it's because identification is easier when tied to a payment method or if Gungho prioritizes IAP, but that's known to help. Even if it's just a dollar.
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Have you ever spent any money at all in-game? I don't know if it's because identification is easier when tied to a payment method or if Gungho prioritizes IAP, but that's known to help. Even if it's just a dollar.
Yep, a few times, and I uploaded my latest receipt too. Should help.
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Descend Challenge with x10 descends and Evo Carnival feels like a gift from the heavens. Time to farm kanetsugu until my fingers drop.
Well, figuratively speaking of course, I ain't spending stones on this.
Also I made one of my Pandoras Awoken and the other UUVO, and will be using both on my Pandora team, I'm just kind of sad that I have a very distinct lack of row-based Dark Devils.
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Looking at your avatar made me realize how awesome a puyo fever collab would be. Oh no now I'm really craving it, fund it! Take my money!
There's a point where I feel that pad is being verrry generous lately and experience of a lifetime at 2x exp dots that 'i' for me. Though I suppose most of the rest of you don't actually even get a single rank up from it so I guess it actually works out for the older players.
I'm planning to try roll for pandora this coming gf, but which is better for APanda, another awoken or uuevo? I pair with lucifers often enough when he's up to justify the uuevo, somewhat, though I lose out on a row.
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I made my second Panda super ultimate rather than another awoken. Partly it was for the extra RCV, partly it was because she was skillmax and I didn't want to lose that work. Honestly either one is probably a pretty solid choice as a Panda sub right now, but once that new hero buff that gives them Archangel-style heart enhance comes out I think super ultimate becomes the clear better choice.
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#1stworldproblem
I have 2 Persephone: one will go Awoken but the other? Stupid Healer type is utterly useless, but those awakenings.....
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Oh right the heart enhance and cd buff I forgot about that. Hearing you say that relieves me a lot actually, I had been stockpiling metric bucketloads of dark fairies from that janky-ass rare monster carnival.
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It's funny how the Archangel actives were, aside from the colors converted, pretty much objectively better than the Heroes in that regard. It's cool to see them getting the heal enhance, especially since enhanced heal is REALLY POTENT surprisingly.
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Yeah, now that I think about it, that totally chains together with claire as well for massiver damage. Wow.
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Archangel+Heartbreaker has been potent as hell since that original heal enhance buff came out. For a while the worse active on heroes was kind of a tradeoff since they had much better awakenings, but now that the angels have solid awakenings it makes sense to have parity I guess. And making the choice between super ultimates and awokens more real certainly keeps things interesting.
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double the fat, double the fun
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How likely is a reincarnation evo for the healer girls at this point? Has the meta progressed enough for it to be a possibility? I feel like the traditional spike teams are too squishy now and phasing out, which would allow for Echidna to get an evo. The other healer girls I feel also have some sort of better alternative. White valk has mini valk and claire has her bikini outfit.
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How likely is a reincarnation evo for the healer girls at this point? Has the meta progressed enough for it to be a possibility? I feel like the traditional spike teams are too squishy now and phasing out, which would allow for Echidna to get an evo. The other healer girls I feel also have some sort of better alternative. White valk has mini valk and claire has her bikini outfit.
I think it's very likely, let's look at the facts:
Echidna's Active Skill is already very strong.
Siren's skill is just Guard Stance, but it's simple and fast, and therefore effective at what it does.
Lilith's Poison already got a buff so it's now an enhance as well, so it too is good for what it does.
Alraune and Archangel just got very strong buffs to their skills, putting them at even power with the other three in terms of active skill. Yet, they did this despite their stats being so low weighted.
Reincarnated Evolutions don't get a different active skill, so it seems the buff to those two was merely groundwork for what might be coming. The last set of "4th ani" buffs will come in May, which is soon. After that... we can only guess.
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Wait, are you counting valkyries as healer girls? As far as I know "healer girl" just refers to the farmable monster girl healers, not to anything else.
So I wouldn't expect reincarnations for the Valkyries since they're still actively getting frequent buffs and frankly they're amazing. I've been expecting something big for the monster girl healers since they're so iconic. I'm hoping the Christmas variants weren't supposed to be that big buff since they're still a little weak, especially Echidna who is the most iconic. Reincarnations would work well, I hadn't thought of that.
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Doh I'm an idiot, those examples aren't healer girls, but I did mean the healer girls and no, I didn't mean the valks. The valks seem pretty good where they are, except for perhaps want of an sbr. I feel like if a collab special variant has one, then the normal one should also get it too, I mean they're pretty much identical, the claires.
e: except, you know, to give even more incentive for people to whale on the >all goddesses in a bikini< special.
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Apparently there are jewel invades in the descend challenge, if anybody but me didn't already know that. Stupid Karin, stealing my +egg and giving me a lousy blue jewel...
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She saw an adventurer and had to fight. Don't be rude, now. > = |
sorry for your loss
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Favorite thing about Fenrir
"I won't let you interfere with Zhou Yu!"
(http://imgur.com/IIGlth7.jpg)
Right.
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Apparently there are jewel invades in the descend challenge, if anybody but me didn't already know that. Stupid Karin, stealing my +egg and giving me a lousy blue jewel...
karin is pretty dum man
one time i hired her as a babysitter and told her to tell a story to the baby if it got mad, and i came home later that night to find the baby chewing on her tail, so i went "wat are u doing"
she said that she was showing the baby a good tale like i told her to but the baby didn't like it
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karin is pretty dum man
one time i hired her as a babysitter and told her to tell a story to the baby if it got mad, and i came home later that night to find the baby chewing on her tail, so i went "wat are u doing"
she said that she was showing the baby a good tale like i told her to but the baby didn't like it
And then she took the baby with her and left you a suuuuper uuuuseful blue jewel.
To make matters worse I accidentally opened the mail I got from that dungeon (Valkyrie descend) and it was another blue jewel! Two for one noooooo!
Maybe I'll pull Scheat and want these. Probably not though.
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And then she took the baby with her and left you a suuuuper uuuuseful blue jewel.
I don't think she's evading a 6 star wanted level with a tail like that
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That is celestial level stupid. Not only did she forget your exact words and replaced story with tale, since they are synonyms, she then promptly forgets the criteria she used to choose the replacement word in the first place, instead going off and choosing a homophone. I have to explain it to believe the sheerness of this.
meimei: come on in! -> best mom
karin: eh?! a baby?! (where do they come from) -> airhead
leilan: here I come! (hears crying) -> best babysitter
haku: ... -> typical kid sister, will try to forcibly spoon feed oatmeal later
kirin: i wont let you pass here! -> best big sis, even though no one knows her name
fagan -> overexcitable uncle
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Normally I would defer to Meimei in all things, but she does seem a bit drunk to handle a baby.
Edit: Christ that reminds me, I should, like, use my Awoken Meims team. I went to the trouble of making it and as far as I remember I've never used it.
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Apparently there are jewel invades in the descend challenge, if anybody but me didn't already know that. Stupid Karin, stealing my +egg and giving me a lousy blue jewel...
<aUsernameIsFineToo> hmm... the jewel reward in descended challenge comes in the form of meimei invading the first battle
<Chirei> no, invades are just on
<aUsernameIsFineToo> so i get 2?
<Chirei> if you win
Two jewels for the price of one!
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What happened to the rest of the stream reward Piis? I thought we were supposed to be getting five or something.
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What happened to the rest of the stream reward Piis? I thought we were supposed to be getting five or something.
This, i was afraid i was the only one.
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Looks like the rest are being given -after- the event?
Fine by me. I have too many descends to beat with this stamina.
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Through DETERMINATION, the dream became true.
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Thanks for the advice to the IRC folks and rdj's a.Minerva \o/
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Ohh? What happened there?
And congrats!
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Ohh? What happened there?
And congrats!
Zombie dragon cheese. Apart from strawberry and brachys (and minerva obvs) none of these dragons were above level 10 :v
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Rank 150 Roll:
I`m so happy ! Yet so sad right now ! At least she is at better option to fill Dark Lack on my teams than Hera.:V
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Yeah, I used her for filler on rainbow teams for a while. That was really all I ever used her for aside from a weird Hera Rush Gabriel team I used to use that needed her skillboosts though.
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DMeta is a very respectable pull. She's not so brilliant lategame, but in midgame where you are, she's fucking stellar.
(She used to be incredibly limited and extremely hard to play. After some skill boosts and changes, this is no longer the case.)
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Quest Solo all Rogue Myth+ with Bastet status: 4 / 6
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Nordis and Volsung done!
Nordis was easier than I thought it'd be.
Had to use Ra to deal with the PreDras on Volsung so that I can poison cheese Volsung's preservance. Everything was blue but it still took me quite a number of tries. On my winning run I survived a full team 3 turn bind Ice Coffin from Hera-Is :V ! Funbaru-loop is stronk
Now the hardest two are left... Scarlet and Gainaut.... and they happen to both be red which makes it double as hard for bastet too...
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Did six pulls fishing for a Hermes.
-Trash
-Trash
-Pollux
-Megatrash
-DQXQ (triple)
-Apollo (double)
Bleh. Pollux is cool, keeping Apollo for some kind of inheritance I guess, the rest go in the garbage where they belong.
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Well commander, it seems your Hermes stopped by my pulls, :V
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I also got some neat Light Sub additions.
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Fourth Roll was Ivory Dragon, so not worth mentioning.
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Favorite thing about Fenrir
"I won't let you interfere with Zhou Yu!"
(http://imgur.com/IIGlth7.jpg)
Right.
Ok, even if i hate jammer meta i laughed. :D
Starlight, if i remember correct you play Light rows, right? Because A.Venus is a STELLAR sub for that kind of team....
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Even though I got lucky and haku invaded on Hera floor still feels good to finally clear this
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I didn't know there was a GF, so I only rolled once, and got Phact ;-;
So, now I have to squish Challenge Dungeons for another couple stones.
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One roll.
... Persephone #3.
I wonder if I can keep Awoken Persephone loops up.
Edit:
Most effortless x196
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So we're seeing a lot of the upsides of Bad Dog, but what are the downsides? Not to shit on an already unpopular archetype, but you know, for balance. How often do you really need to burst but find yourself unable? And how's his staying power?
I guess what I'm saying is, I'd like an in-depth comprehensive review of him at some point.
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=w= I got one.
Didn't they announce the Awoken form on-stream?
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One roll here too.
... ur-chimera
DAMN YOU PADZ
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One True God-Eater.
I'll be using JP's current 2.0-2.5 bonus for a few examples here instead of NA's 1.5-2.0 because FUTURE.
He's a weird mixture of "Jammer" and "Rainbow" for sure. Before the Rainbow buff, you had to run primary dark because three jammers only gave you x16. BUT you could use things like Persephone and multiple Fenrir uses and it would work out.
Now he can get x6.25 just for matching five colors and x16 for three jammers, making x100 possible on many many boards. Gainaut and Jormangandr are to Fenrir as Kalis are to Awoken Ra in that sense.
You can still use Persephone on Gainaut boards, too. Heavy dark board with R/G/B/J means you can get x64 or, if you're lucky and get more jammers, x100+ still.
Or you can just pile on jammers and go for obscene multipliers that way. Certainly some enemies will do that for you, like Speedster Hermes in Zeus Mercury or Zhou Zu's waifu. Makes things much easier on you. Bonus points if they leave 4 colors behind still, or if they only convert heal to jammer.
As far as subs go. As long as you have at least one of Jormangandr or Gainaut and the rainbow colors, it seems you can run whatever you want or need. Unlike Awoken Ra or Ra-dora or Ascooby Doobis, Fenrir's raw power is dependent only on jammers. You can still focus dark and run Persephone, or you can take advantage of Blue's utility, Green's damage reductions, Isis/Amaterasu/Ceres/Kirin for clerics.
Now that the second Fenrir is skillmaxed, the ability to burst is rarely an issue. Their jammer skyfall usually gives 3/4 jammers for the next turn, so three Dogs rotating on 5 turn CDs is fine. Even Gainaut has a great 8 turn cd for a "DKali + Jammer" board if you need that rainbow damage badly.
His stats are pretty good. Top of the class ATK, 3000 HP is very acceptable, and 200 RCV is salvageable. I've not had any issues with durability yet.
Basically, as far as normal turns go, think "Awoken Ra" damage until a turn comes where you use many many many jammers.
His critical weakness? Skill delays. Sopdet.
edit: the dream is to hit 9 jammers at once with five colors for x625 multipliers. One day, I'm sure.
addendum: for Awoken Horus folk, the combination of Gainaut and Antares seems pretty powerful
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One roll here too.
... ur-chimera
DAMN YOU PADZ
Ha ha yeah that was one of my trashes. It was even the evolved one so the gold egg got my hopes up.
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(http://i.imgur.com/zdq8Km9.png?1)
=w= I got one.
Didn't they announce the Awoken form on-stream?
She's available in NA as of ver. 8.8! Think carefully before deciding to go Awoken; it's not as clearcut anymore as it used to be.
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yeah the other two Artemis are way solid now too
The addition of killers and abundance of "good" awakenings in contrast to Awoken Artemis, plus the relative ease of skillups should be considered a lot.
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I'll keep that in mind later. If I went Hunt God, then couldn't I make (specifically) a Hera-(Ur/Is/Whatever) Descended team with her?
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Say i have 2 Athenas, if i evo both and then feed one to the other it acts like a Tamadra, like activating one awakening right ?
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Say i have 2 Athenas, if i evo both and then feed one to the other it acts like a Tamadra, like activating one awakening right ?
If they are the exact same form, yes. Evo'd fed to evo'd works; ult fed to ult works, ult fed to evo'd or evo'd fed to ult DOES NOT WORK. (not that you'd ult them to feed em off, but still)
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Godfest Yoloroll: Cerberus Rider.
Eh, another mostly TPA-based dark devil. He'd be good for Skill Inheritance though.
IF NA ACTUALLY HAD THAT.
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"all attribute. i don't wanna slog through again with leilan, could i possibly use another team."
"hmm, maybe this team would work, but if only there was some heartmaker that was blue"
"wait a second"
(http://i.imgur.com/m4DN17Sm.png) (http://i.imgur.com/qjob5kxm.png)
REINCARNATE THE HEALER GIRLS WHEN #fukkaliclones #fuksakuya #fukjammermeta #hyorinryu
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Any day I see Zhou Yu get his face smashed in is a good day. I'll get to him myself later(if my tablet's charge cable ever cooperates) but that screenshot'll suffice for now.
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It's the weekend again, so I'm going at the Legend tier Weekend Dungeon, but I can't seem to replicate that near-success run from last weekend. I've evolved I&I, gotten Australis (lead) to Awakening 4, and died on the first floor. This is my Tricolor team:
(http://i.imgur.com/F7zm2i8.jpg)
Quite frankly, it's bad, but while it was weaker it got me almost through the whole thing.
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It's the weekend again, so I'm going at the Legend tier Weekend Dungeon, but I can't seem to replicate that near-success run from last weekend. I've evolved I&I, gotten Australis (lead) to Awakening 4, and died on the first floor. This is my Tricolor team:
(http://i.imgur.com/F7zm2i8.jpg)
Quite frankly, it's bad, but while it was weaker it got me almost through the whole thing.
Who will you use as a Helper ? Australis runs on Rows, maybe you should take another Australis ? I dunno, your team is pretty irregular, it`s hard to find something effective.
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I took Echidna, I think. The New Years Echidna. I think.
It enhanced Healer HP by 2.5x and ATK by 1.5(ish)x, which seemed good because those are both lacking.
EDIT: It was Christmas Echidna.
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The problem is that pretty much none of your monsters are affected by the leader skill. Unless I'm reading Australis' leader skill wrongly, it only affects machine types, which is to say, only herself. Meanwhile taking christmas echidna only affects herself and I&I.
Out of curiosity, what was your starter dragon? You can probably make a much more solid team out of them and just about any RGB cards.
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Unless I'm reading Australis' leader skill wrongly, it only affects machine types, which is to say, only herself.
Hold on, i thought Australis was a guy, is this another Tsukuyomi case ?
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Yoloroll for day 1: my second Liu Bei
Uhhhh, technically i could use him, since my Verdandi team is one of the very few that survived The Purge.
But i use her only for some farming, and for that my current team is more than ok..... and i could use that wood exp + tamadras for dark monsters!
And his AS is basically useless as inheritance for dark teams......
i'll sleep over it but 90% he will become MP
EDIT: lol, despite maining dark i actually have a good use for Shynpy: keep Fagan unevoed, maxskill him with shynpy, then evolve into DFagan :V
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Out of curiosity, what was your starter dragon? You can probably make a much more solid team out of them and just about any RGB cards.
I started with Plessie, but now I have a Firedragon Tyrannos, too.
Neither are Uevo'd
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Yoloroll for day 1: my second Liu Bei
Uhhhh, technically i could use him, since my Verdandi team is one of the very few that survived The Purge.
But i use her only for some farming, and for that my current team is more than ok..... and i could use that wood exp + tamadras for dark monsters!
And his AS is basically useless as inheritance for dark teams......
i'll sleep over it but 90% he will become MP
EDIT: lol, despite maining dark i actually have a good use for Shynpy: keep Fagan unevoed, maxskill him with shynpy, then evolve into DFagan :V
It still amazes me that you can go all in dark. Even I made some questionable decisions like selling Bonia and Ra but I still have some diversity.
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Oh, actually, instead of running a starter dragon as a lead, should I lead with Leilan? That gives me 3.5x ATK to two types instead of 2x to just one.
Not to mention that I think it applies to all types, it just occurs when any of the three listed types are erased.
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Hold on, i thought Australis was a guy, is this another Tsukuyomi case ?
Honestly I have absolutely no freaking idea, Australis could be male for all I know, after Noah and Starling I have absolutely no fucking idea.
Next up GungHo will come out and say that the Numbered Dragons are all actually female.
I started with Plessie, but now I have a Firedragon Tyrannos, too.
Neither are Uevo'd
The evo requirement for Tyrannos' first uvo isn't that bad. You can make a relatively solid team out of farmables - since you already have Laila, you can pick up a Rowdy Red Samurai Goblin (or gigas if you're lucky) and probably have more than enough firepower already to deal with the weekend dungeon. If you have any other red cards you can put them in too.
Basically, just make a monocolor team with a simple leader and go to town, you should be fine so long as said color is RGB.
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Oh, actually, instead of running a starter dragon as a lead, should I lead with Leilan? That gives me 3.5x ATK to two types instead of 2x to just one.
That depends - R/G or Awoken Leilan? Cause if not you won't be able to activate since Leilan needs Light orbs to activate as well.
(Also, I'm pretty sure the Chinese Girls affect all attributes.)
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I have R/G, but it specifically says,
"3.5x ATK when erasing any of the following Orb types: Fire, Wood, Light, or Heal"
I just tested it in EC and it was working, so long as Leilan was attacking, too.
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Yeah, R/G Leilan can play Tricolor dungeons because of hearts, same with Awoken. That is part of what makes those two forms so good, same with the other non-Sakuya Chinese girls. Just need fire and wood along with hearts, which R/G fills on her own.
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I have R/G, but it specifically says,
"3.5x ATK when erasing any of the following Orb types: Fire, Wood, Light, or Heal"
I just tested it in EC and it was working, so long as Leilan was attacking, too.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't say that.
"ATK x3.5 when attacking with 3 of following orb types: Fire, Wood, Light & Heart."
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Right, sort of. R/G Leilan and Awoken Leilan (Alongside the Awoken and non-twinlit uvos of the other chinese girls not called Sakuya) can activate by matching three of the colors listed. If you had the twinlit uvo or the non-uvo forms of Leilan then you would be forced to match Red, Green and Light to activate. Since you do have R/G though, you can match Red, Green and Hearts and get the same result.
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't say that.
"ATK x3.5 when attacking with 3 of following orb types: Fire, Wood, Light & Heart."
That would be R/L or unevolved Leilan.
EDIT: Oh, I see.
DOUBLEdit: Welp, on Novice I tested the team, with Chirei's ALeilan as a Helper, and it's scary. Every single floor is insta-bombed by the 12.25x.
TRIPLEdit: I intentionally didn't activate the LS just now, but the Skyfall potential took over. I guess I'm moving this to the max difficulty version.
QUADRUPLEdit: Welp, the Dungeon got destroyed, so thanks for the help!
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Yeah, due to how few orb types there are in tricolors it's easy to go from "barely doing much" to "sky falls, everyone dies" in like five seconds. Note that you will also take 30% less damage from two thirds of the enemies which will probably prove preeeetty handy.
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That would be R/L or unevolved Leilan.
EDIT: Oh, I see.
DOUBLEdit: Welp, on Novice I tested the team, with Chirei's ALeilan as a Helper, and it's scary. Every single floor is insta-bombed by the 12.25x.
TRIPLEdit: I intentionally didn't activate the LS just now, but the Skyfall potential took over. I guess I'm moving this to the max difficulty version.
QUADRUPLEdit: Welp, the Dungeon got destroyed, so thanks for the help!
She is fairly strong and easy to activate, so a really really good way to play the game with. You can really change the strats up a lot with her, and she doesn't ask for too much.
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I've said before that I think the Chinese are the best starter monsters. Really wish Gungho would just do away with the starter dragons and let you pick a chibi Chinese as a starter (and make the chibi Chinese evolve into a real Chinese). They're great at teaching important skills and they're useful at every stage of the game. But they're at a premium so I doubt Gungho would ever agree to give them away to everyone for free. For anyone lucky enough to pull one early though, I think they're a great option.
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(http://i.imgur.com/oYIxPHA.jpg)
Meimei invaded Zaerogoo's dungeon. Note the floor she's on.
Uh, Meims, are you allowed to be here?
I got to Rogoo and he was like "Let's continue". Poor guy got preempted by a drunk Chinese girl wandering into his house and he doesn't even seem to know it.
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I got a lot of cool stuff but no Apollo like I wanted
(http://imgur.com/RctYOHel.jpg)
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I got a lot of cool stuff but no Apollo like I wanted
(http://imgur.com/RctYOHel.jpg)
WAIFUTERASU ! Noooooo, give her to me, you already have one........ wahhh....... :qq:
GungTroll...... please give....
Edit; Oh, he also got PAD Reimu. :V
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Kirin invaded on floor nine of Nordis for me. I was all EXCUUUUSE ME?
I just used Orochi and killed her with non-jammer rainbow damage
yo Moogs
Fenrir bros? ;)
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(http://i.imgur.com/oYIxPHA.jpg)
Meimei invaded Zaerogoo's dungeon. Note the floor she's on.
Uh, Meims, are you allowed to be here?
Maleficent Phantom Freeloader Queen, Meimei∞
Preemptive: Would you like some? (Bind Awoken Skills 99 turn)
Preemptive: Oh, try this too. (Bind Skills 99 turn)
Preemptive: How about a little more? (Bind x 6 Cards 99 turn)
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Skills
The truth of the tortoise and the snake ( 1908XXX ) (+Blind)
100% chance. ( 25 hits )
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I got a lot of cool stuff but no Apollo like I wanted
(http://imgur.com/RctYOHel.jpg)
Ooh, nice Reine. Any day you pull a Valkyrie is a good day.
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I've said before that I think the Chinese are the best starter monsters. Really wish Gungho would just do away with the starter dragons and let you pick a chibi Chinese as a starter (and make the chibi Chinese evolve into a real Chinese). They're great at teaching important skills and they're useful at every stage of the game. But they're at a premium so I doubt Gungho would ever agree to give them away to everyone for free. For anyone lucky enough to pull one early though, I think they're a great option.
Although I disagree with letting the chibi chinese evolve into the actual Chinese, I pretty much agree with the rest - and really, who the hell even cares about the chibi chinese anyway? They are REM silvers dedicated to just padding out the gacha system so that players whale for the actually good stuff. Make them starters and nobody would really complain.
Heck maybe it would even make GungHo buff the starter dragons and finally give Pterados and D'Spinas their second uvo.
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The only problem with that is then they really would have to change the name of the game to PaW
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The only problem with that is then they really would have to change the name of the game to PaW
NEW UPDATE: Release of Leilan Dragon, Meimei Dragon, Karin Dragon, Sakuya Dragon and Haku Dragon.
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Hmm, how would Sakuya Dragon work if A. Sakuya can already reach 100x ?
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Awoken Ra goes x100 but that didn't stop Ra-dora from going x144.
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Hmm, how would Sakuya Dragon work if A. Sakuya can already reach 100x ?
Well the idea would be to create these new dragons as the new starters so that GungHo would be able to justify keeping the name of the game without really changing anything about it :V
Although the actual Sakuya Dragon, as an MP Dragon, would probably be like "All att HP/ATK/RCV x1.5, ATK x7 when matching four of the following orb types: Fire, Water, Wood, Light, Heart, Jammer, Poison & Mortal Poison. All Att. ATK x1.5 at 5 combos, up to x4 at 10 combos."
I do realize that adds up to x42 ATK, or x1764 with double leads. That's intentional.
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Sakuya Dragon
Active Skill: Fanboy Final Flash CD 20/Max 15
Deal Fanboy x1000 Light Damage to all enemies. Affected by element and defense.
Leader Skill: Everyone's Favorite
All attributes' ATK increases by +0.1x for every fanboy she has. All attributes' HP increases by +0.01x for every fangirl she has.
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What latents should I give my hypermax Shinji? Fingers? Rainbow resists? FIVE SKILL DELAY RESISTS? I can't see it mattering that much honestly, but he's gotta have something.
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It still amazes me that you can go all in dark. Even I made some questionable decisions like selling Bonia and Ra but I still have some diversity.
Well, as i said i kept something just in case (basically my only 2 not-dark team that at the time were already maxlevelled and mostly maxskilled and a few utility subs)
I think i already wrote them down in the past but just for the sake of clarity, my not-dark monster box is LITERALLY comprised of:
Fire: Echidna
Water: NOTHING :V
Wood: Verdandi - Liuuu Bei - GZL - Marine Rider - Cu Chulainn (my Verd team)
Light: A.Sakuya - A.Ra - Lkali - Lkali - A.Ama - Valk - Ganesha - Indra (my A.Saku team + A.Ama for utility, Ganesha for coin, Indra in standby to see if the awoken AS is usable for inheritance)
I admit there are some awkward moments, like in the current descended challenge where i had to put together a weird dragon team for Dragon Zombie :derp: but the advantages are too good to pass up.
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Light: A.Ama
Pretty much everyone has a Amaterasu, even a certain pesky Dark user. :/
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Thank God It's Monday
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12963380_831039723667002_6203998241624476294_n.png?oh=20f6ababc2a8d604ffb59560725c6f1f&oe=57BCEE29)
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My body can't hold all this exp!
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My body can't hold all this exp!
Yes it can ! Just try harder !
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Didn't expect to get taken out of the box again, did you, Wingman?
(http://i.imgur.com/hGCzGX4l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/hGCzGX4.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/w6UTDbjl.png)(http://i.imgur.com/sUyUcqSl.png)
Holy shit
Gainaut Myth plus solo cleared with bastet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe I pulled this off.
bastet bestet.
5/6
Only scarlet left.
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Jormangandr must be pretty useful, huh?
A green poison with good stats is why you're using it, it looks like?
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Jormangandr must be pretty useful, huh?
A green poison with good stats is why you're using it, it looks like?
I've been Jormangandr for the predra floor for all of these myth plus, with the exception of Volsung where I Sunburst Knuckled these predras so I can poison cheese through Volsung's perseverance. So yea, he's been a great help and the reason I even thought of starting going for myth pluses. (and also baggi loop happened)
The other green choices are all true damage collab golds which I don't have. His cost is a bit too high for rogue purposes but he do have good stats and awakenings for a farmable.
GZL is MVP for this one, his def break+enhance is how I break through salamander's red hp 2.5mil def while still having Jomundgandr for predras, and his enhance is how I can one-shot Gainaut's 12m red hp because I can't stall this one out even with Baggi-loop.
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Finally Tamadras. I need so many... And I even saved my Experience Of A Lifetime, so I can get even more. Got Shinji maxed out and most of Awoken Neptune. Later I need to do Kraken Rider and the extra awakenings on my Panda subs, then I can start clearing descends with Shinji.
Water: NOTHING :V
:flamingv:
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Wow what a most disappointing bunch of rolls. Sold tier sold, don't remember. Then I got perseus, yamato takeru, lemondra, hathor, probably selling them all too. Then I got fendog and now I feel pretty awkward for selling my urahara from the bleach collab. So nothing I wanted, what a waste. Now I can only hope that beach pandora gets an evo so she stays relevant.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RHmq2mmM6s
went ahead and made a video for surtr that doesn't really care too much about Loki's leader swap. The dungeon is pretty annoying to farm if you wanna max-skill a Surtr. Blue is the best color to run for this dungeon.
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Water: NOTHING :V
:flamingv:
So your reaction as a Water user to my utter lack of water cards is..... to incinerate me with fire? :wat:
Tsk, Gabriel would be so disappointed, commander!
Pretty much everyone has a Amaterasu, even a certain pesky Dark user. :/
I like "pesky Dark user" a lot.... might even put it under my avatar :D
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(http://i.imgur.com/e2XQUyh.jpg)
Hey Batman
this is what I think of you and your stupid movie.
New high score.
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Monday Dungeon is my new exp farm :o
Geezus that's easy.
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Groove coaster is better right now due to x3 exp fyi
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moogs are you alive and have a halloween alraune
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Ok so just now. An enemy survived with a pixel of hp and I totally thought I had missed that they had a resolve. So I did a one combo on an off color, and lo, enemy doesn't die. It wasn't resolve, he just literally had like a pixel of health left. That I didn't chip off with this nonsense combo.
Aaaaand dead. There goes 50 stamina.
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Dropping Fenrir
Switching to SHENANIGANS
A certain vampire I know likes the attack "Four of a Kind"
I suppose this emulates that to an extent, huh?
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(http://i.imgur.com/94vpRa4l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/94vpRa4.jpg)
It's good to be using you again, buddy. I don't know where all of my Lucifer friends went, so seeing one today was nice.
Also this happened later:
(http://i.imgur.com/G2WL5Vnl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/G2WL5Vn.jpg)
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moogs are you alive and have a halloween alraune
I'm in release hell but I can put hallo alraune up
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(http://i.imgur.com/ZTBZkcZ.jpg)
Project A. Venus : 60% Complete !
Also, fuck Doomsday, why puts a Light Resist AND a attack that recovers HP ? :(
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.5 * 2 is still 1:1 damage, by any means quite fair
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.5 * 2 is still 1:1 damage, by any means quite fair
When he drops below 50% HP he turns into Fire Att., plus i was using just a 4x atk team for pal points.
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How long has super powerlevel Groove Coaster been up? This is great.
Also, fuck Doomsday, why puts a Light Resist AND a attack that recovers HP ? :(
You're just provoking me at this point, aren't you?
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I'm pretty sure Vishnu's existence in high level Challenges denies Gabriel's existence. Talking about the enemy recovering HP pretty much triggers ccool.
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I going to blindly assume that Gabriel isn't the best water team there is out there. Does Vishnu counter a good majority of water teams or just Gabriel and a couple others?
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How long has super powerlevel Groove Coaster been up? This is great.
Since Friday; it really is pretty awesome. Even better if you've got an Ares, Artemis, or I&I to skill up (I remember CRAB used to be Hermes at one point but I guess it isn't now?)
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I going to blindly assume that Gabriel isn't the best water team there is out there. Does Vishnu counter a good majority of water teams or just Gabriel and a couple others?
CCool is mostly a stall-team player, which would be completely fine if stall wasn't effectively a playstyle that only gets the middle finger in this game. Pretty much every dungeon is designed to require insane amounts of burst and yet also be a pain in the ass to burst down. If that wasn't the case I'm fairly sure CCool wouldn't even use Beyzul on his team - just as much as I wouldn't absolutely need Wangren on my eventual Red Stall team.
CCool also hates green enemies with a passion for rather obvious reasons, and Vishnu is the ultimate fuck you to just about everyone ever, blue and red teams especially (but mostly blue). I'm pretty sure CCool once spent around 100 turns trying to deal with Vishnu before finally going down because let's face it, Enemy!Vishnu is a dick.
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You're just provoking me at this point, aren't you?
Cmon ! That was just a small vent ! Yea, i get it ! Water get resisted by all Wood Atts. ! But other people here run RBG Teams too, even i am making and running a Skuld Team and building a Wood Row Team, i know, you have bad memories of being att. countered alot of times and on very important stuff, but others have too, and they aren't complaining about me complaining that i had a hard time with a enemy that kept trolling me and made me waste 35 turns just on dealing damage for it to be healed.
td;dr: You have bad memories, i understand, but at least let me just vent a bit, at least you have your husbando, i have neither Waifuterasu or Daughtermiel, sorry if i made you mad, please understand. (I can't make proper tl;drs.) :(
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Blue has one big thing to fight Vishnu, and a lot of big bads surprisingly
Orochi :V
He just hits unreasonably hard, you can't burst him down in one turn, and while staying just below the threshold of 1 million is easy (enough) for most colors, blue has to consistently go at the 2 million mark to keep up with Vishnu's healing at all.
And ccool playing a stall team
does not go well with the enemy constantly healing
I think the farthest ccool could push the stall idea in modern dungeons would be to field the B/R puppet and slap the entire team with Fire Resist Latents. But obviously that's another 250,000 MP and latents to gather and that's no fun.
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The fact that puppets can't be skill inherited is also really dumb, it's basically the ultimate "fuck you" to RGB teams gungho could've given, at least as far as Skill Inheritence is concerned.
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I'm pretty sure Vishnu's existence in high level Challenges denies Gabriel's existence. Talking about the enemy recovering HP pretty much triggers ccool.
This is true. It's less about the recovering HP and more about the resist, but yeah. I mean, I can accept that recovering is his gimmick, but the fact that he's green is what makes him virtually impossible. If he wasn't I could beat him fairly easily.
I going to blindly assume that Gabriel isn't the best water team there is out there. Does Vishnu counter a good majority of water teams or just Gabriel and a couple others?
No, Gabriel is not the best blue team. Not even close I'm sure. There are certainly better blue teams that can beat Vishnu, but they tend to be kind of whale-y in my experience. Meanwhile, Gabriel is becoming less strict to build since Reine is no longer really necessary, Snow White is easy to get, and the proliferation of rows means the Sun Quan slot is now a flex slot that could be a few different things.
Since Friday; it really is pretty awesome. Even better if you've got an Ares, Artemis, or I&I to skill up (I remember CRAB used to be Hermes at one point but I guess it isn't now?)
I don't have any of those actually, but incidentally I've been playing Groove Coaster a lot lately. It, uh... Isn't like the collab at all. :V
CCool is mostly a stall-team player, which would be completely fine if stall wasn't effectively a playstyle that only gets the middle finger in this game. Pretty much every dungeon is designed to require insane amounts of burst and yet also be a pain in the ass to burst down. If that wasn't the case I'm fairly sure CCool wouldn't even use Beyzul on his team - just as much as I wouldn't absolutely need Wangren on my eventual Red Stall team.
CCool also hates green enemies with a passion for rather obvious reasons, and Vishnu is the ultimate fuck you to just about everyone ever, blue and red teams especially (but mostly blue). I'm pretty sure CCool once spent around 100 turns trying to deal with Vishnu before finally going down because let's face it, Enemy!Vishnu is a dick.
Oh, it was well over 100 turns. And as far as Vishnu being a fuck you to everyone ever goes, again he would not be a problem at all for Gabriel if he wasn't green. Gabriel would barely be threatened by him if he wasn't green. He would take a lot of actives to beat so he might be a serious problem if the next floor requires a quick response, but he doesn't even theoretically require a leader swap. I have to assume this means similar bulky teams with similar burst potential don't really care about him that much. He's definitely a fuck you to spike teams, but tank teams packing a decent delay and decent damage handle him extremely well despite his regeneration. At least I assume they do, on paper they do, but I can't confirm because I've NEVER FUCKING BEATEN HIM. >:(
Also, let's not forget Awoken Meimei's complacency in all of this. I couldn't even bring Beyzul into that dungeon where I fought him for over a hundred turns because I HAD to bring NepDra to deal with Meimei. And again, if she wasn't green I could just burst her. Although I acknowledge that she does resist multiple colors so she's troublesome for more than just blue, but she resists blue the most. And stacking two massively, ridiculously bulky green enemies in the same dungeon is bullshit. At least skill inheritance theoretically takes care of her, it totally doesn't for Vishnu since I can't inherit fucking puppets.
Edit: Cmon ! That was just a small vent ! Yea, i get it ! Water get resisted by all Wood Atts. ! But other people here run RBG Teams too, even i am making and running a Skuld Team and building a Wood Row Team, i know, you have bad memories of being att. countered alot of times and on very important stuff, but others have too, and they aren't complaining about me complaining that i had a hard time with a enemy that kept trolling me and made me waste 35 turns just on dealing damage for it to be healed.
td;dr: You have bad memories, i understand, but at least let me just vent a bit, at least you have your husbando, i have neither Waifuterasu or Daughtermiel, sorry if i made you mad, please understand. (I can't make proper tl;drs.) :(
What I'll say to that is, if you NEED built-in double damage to beat Doomsday then you've probably got other problems. Fair enough if that's just not bringing weak leads into the dungeon to get pal points, but relying on having type advantage isn't really that productive. Being resisted is one thing, but just not being super effective is another.
And I didn't decide Gabriel was husbando before I pulled him, I pulled him and then he became husbando. I recall that I was actually fishing for I&I that day and I was a little disappointed to have him at first. I've said this before and I'll say it again if I have to, don't get too attached to cards you don't own. I did that with Andromeda, I still don't have Andromeda, and it was basically just a huge waste of time and resources. Figure out which things you do own are good, then get attached to them.
Edit edit: Oh yeah, and as far as most people not harping on your every time you bring this up goes, I'll say two things: One, most people just run white or black and don't have this problem. That is because they are superior colors that get free handicaps for some reason. Two, I'm just busting your balls to some degree. Don't take it TOO personally. ;) I do actually mean everything I'm saying here, but it is in part for humor.
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Ahh, i was worried he would get mad at me. :ohdear:
Alas, i'll try to stop complaining about HP recovery moves and resists, please forgive me.
Can i still complain how PEM has dropped me 3 devilits but no Angelit in like 60 Evo Mat week rolls ?
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iirc I convinced ccool to try the super experimental and hipster ~*~leader swap~*~ because there was little to no precedent for it at all
It only so happened he had most of the pieces and JUST got Gabriel when he was asking "What can I do with these mobs" or something to that extent
Something we don't think about as puzzle pieces are the mobs we get from the REM, seeing how they fit together. And we gradually accumulate pieces - some are coveted for fitting in many teams - but you should never reject, say, Archdemons and their counter abilities or Ninjas (forget Wizards tho srsly)
Can totally confirm that I would NOT be Fpurin Fanatic if (I think) Edible hadn't changed my name to it I hadn't rolled him in the Hello Kitty machine. Similarly, I hadn't thought about Jammer meta at all until loloops two Fenrirs in my box.
Drop rates are TOTALLY a thing you can complain about, though ;)
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Can i still complain how PEM has dropped me 3 devilits but no Angelit in like 60 Evo Mat week rolls ?
Everyone can complain about daily dungeon RNG. There's a reason I don't run them anymore unless we're talking tuesday dungeon :V
And yeah, pretty much, you can't get attached to cards you don't have exactly because the RNG is strong with this game. I wouldn't absolutely love my Horus nearly as much as I do if he hadn't been my very first REM roll, similarly I wouldn't love using Vishnu to farm or be currently working on a Pandora team if I didn't have all of the pieces for them.
Heck the only reason I use Vishnu at all is because I just so happen to have a pretty top-tier Green Attacker team, which I could make even better if I just fucking got Kaede already but I don't so I work with what I have.
All of this is part of the reason of why I'm so reluctant to sell REM only cards, keeping them around has given me a lot of different teams to work with, even if I'm not currently making progress towards really any of them (other than plussing my horus team).
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iirc I convinced ccool to try the super experimental and hipster ~*~leader swap~*~ because there was little to no precedent for it at all
It only so happened he had most of the pieces and JUST got Gabriel when he was asking "What can I do with these mobs" or something to that extent
Something we don't think about as puzzle pieces are the mobs we get from the REM, seeing how they fit together. And we gradually accumulate pieces - some are coveted for fitting in many teams - but you should never reject, say, Archdemons and their counter abilities or Ninjas (forget Wizards tho srsly)
Can totally confirm that I would NOT be Fpurin Fanatic if (I think) Edible hadn't changed my name to it I hadn't rolled him in the Hello Kitty machine. Similarly, I hadn't thought about Jammer meta at all until loloops two Fenrirs in my box.
You sure did. I've wondered before if I ever would have figured this out without you helping me, but no, I probably wouldn't have. Makes me wonder what other weird cool teams might be hiding in my box that I just haven't decoded yet.
Maybe it's just contrarianism, but I've been enjoying ninjas a lot recently. You know what I haven't been enjoying lately? Wizards. My dumb Shinji team has a slot that Sharon could even theoretically go in, but I'm using Kraken Rider instead because fuck wizards.
Drop rates are TOTALLY a thing you can complain about, though ;)
Yes. Yes you can, because they are buuuull shiiiiiit. And everyone knows complaining helps.
By the way Starlight, weren't you planning a Friday Dungeon run to try to farm Angelits? How did that go?
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It wasn't well, the Floor 2 Dublits always got me, and since A: my Sakuya Team EXP is pretty low and B: The Team can't stall for the ASs due to 8-80 style damage, if i could just skip Floor 2 i bet i could do it, but i'm thinking of running a Wukong Team there (that is, once jq or someone else get a Wukong running well, heck, even a regular evo max skilled wukong would serve.
Wait, so does that mean my name will be changed in the future by Edible ?
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If you get Ammy I could totally see you as something like "Starlighterasu". Totally.
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sup Grisar thanks for the poison orbs
(http://imgur.com/sKxacq3.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/o9UqcYR.jpg)
Weaknesses: 1) vampire
2) random poison skyfalls
pretty reliable otherwise
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Maybe it's just contrarianism, but I've been enjoying ninjas a lot recently. You know what I haven't been enjoying lately? Wizards. My dumb Shinji team has a slot that Sharon could even theoretically go in, but I'm using Kraken Rider instead because fuck wizards.
>Sharon
ahahahahahahahahahsob
fuck sharon
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If you get Ammy I could totally see you as something like "Starlighterasu". Totally.
That`s pretty nice actually ! Now what if i draw Famiel.....
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(http://imgur.com/3XYHJ6l.jpg)
A team like this needs a nice physical Light Enhance
Superdog is here
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Got my account back! Too bad I missed the Godfest - but I decided to just roll once anyways and picked up a Wukong. My Saria team is taking shape.
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Got my account back! Too bad I missed the Godfest - but I decided to just roll once anyways and picked up a Wukong. My Saria team is taking shape.
Hello ! Finally another Wukong for me to befriend !
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Hello ! Finally another Wukong for me to befriend !
You use him as a leader?
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You use him as a leader?
I am planning to do so, he's getting skill ups and +eggs, but i can't really lead with him if nobody brings out theirs, that and accursed angelits.. :V
But yea, i mean, Mea uses Pandora, which is basically a Dark Wukong, while hyonrinryu uses Perseus which is Wood, Pandora is more popular cause Awoken Evo and Dark bias, and she's neat i'll admit it.
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but i can't really lead with him if nobody brings out theirs
Sure you can. I use Neptune Dragon, who has a similar (albeit mostly better) leader skill paired with Ryune most of the time. You could probabl easily pair Wukong with Raphael, Saria, or even Amaterasu although at that point being super ultimate does help a lot.
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Hmm, i'll try with Saria, i have my own Me to pair up with Myself, snd Waifuterasu doesn't have any Rows, plus i won't get full benefit of her LS.
And i need some way to deal with Sandal Phone !!! Damn that 10 Turn Bind ! It's just such a brick wall since almost all my box has god-type.
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If I recall he is delayable, so delaying him before you hit him hard (or just one-shotting him) should take care of him. But yeah, between Raphael and him (https://cluelessramblings.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/evaepisode10.png) that's usually a descend newer players struggle with for a while.
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Hmm, i'll try with Saria, i have my own Me to pair up with Myself, snd Waifuterasu doesn't have any Rows, plus i won't get full benefit of her LS.
And i need some way to deal with Sandal Phone !!! Damn that 10 Turn Bind ! It's just such a brick wall since almost all my box has god-type.
Dual Monkeys should be able to oneshot Sandyphone. If you can't one shot him, take an enchilada with you, or christmas angel if you have her.
Monkey/Valk/Pollux/???/????/Monkey should be able to handle it. One ??? can be a booster/delay, while the other one can be an orbchanger. In terms of terms of friends, You could get away with Saria or awoken Thor.
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Get him as close to half without going over, then blow him apart. Kick his head in!
I used to haaaaaate that guy ugh.
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I finally got around to recording that Z8 run I always wanted to do (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9qkvGA3ERk)
So there's that I guess.
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Spent some time powerleveling with coin dungeons to level 150 to get a ROdin from the memorial egg machine. I have a couple of subs for him, so I guess I can put him on the backburner.
I noticed I'm not in the OP yet. My friend ID's 320,092,324 (Verdandi, Saria). I'm still pretty behind on +eggs and awakenings, though. Also have a Vishnu that's usually on sub duty.
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I noticed I'm not in the OP yet. My friend ID's 320,092,324 (Verdandi, Saria). I'm still pretty behind on +eggs and awakenings, though. Also have a Vishnu that's usually on sub duty.
So may i add you as Saria Number 6 ? Aka Samyon ? I have a Thor than i'm working on here, i run mostly Skuld and A. Drake, but Thor, Wukong and LKali are always available to ask.
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So may i add you as Saria Number 6 ? Aka Samyon ? I have a Thor than i'm working on here, i run mostly Skuld and A. Drake, but Thor, Wukong and LKali are always available to ask.
Sure thing. Still got lots of friend slots available. I don't log in that often, though, so be aware of that.
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>Sharon
ahahahahahahahahahsob
fuck sharon
Was it you Matsy that dropped something like 8 Sharons?
GH! I have both Chester and Dill Sirius maxskilled! Give me ONE reason to run them! Even if niche! (no, sbr galore for Chester doesn't cut it anymore)
And a certain Water user mentioning black and white getting free handicaps made me remember possibly the stupidest back-to-back attempts i've ever done: Ultimate Dragon Rush
> blind run, lead with YOMIDRA :colonveeplusalpha:
> final boss takes a look at my team and start laughing uncontrollably
> Zero Blast
you think i learnt the lesson?
> lead with A.Pandora :derp:
> final boss takes a look at my team and proceed to spam dark absorb 5 times in a row
> too bad with 3 heartmakers i outstalled him :V
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Even a single turn of delay breaks Zaerog's resist. He still burns turns of it even if he can't go, so you can get a turn where he has no resists at all if you delay him right before it's about to run out.
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I when Zaerog spams absorbs, I just bring an Enchilada on Sakuya. Idk what your dark collection looks like, but I'd recommend Okuni. He's pretty cool.
Was it you Matsy that dropped something like 8 Sharons?
Pretty sure it was. I remember trying to roll for Sharon back during the first time the Christmas REM showed up and Matsy was just like just take any of my 8 bajillion Sharons. Speaking of magicians. Shouldn't they be getting ults soon? It's not like they were ever super popular, so you'd think they'd have happened already.
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That was me, yeah. I don't like Sharon for that reason. Obnoxious witch.
Also, Descended Challenge all-cleared. Woo.
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Speaking of magicians. Shouldn't they be getting ults soon? It's not like they were ever super popular, so you'd think they'd have happened already.
I think that's the exact reason as to why they won't be getting ults any time soon - not enough of a following behind them.
I mean, otherwise ninjas would have UUVOs, Guan Yus would have UVOs, Light and Dark starter dragons would have split ults and the Dragon Emperors would have proper Uvos.
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The weird outlier to that is GZL. He's pretty popular, or at least has been at times, but he's never gotten an evolution of any kind.
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It took four long days, but I completed the Infinity Challenge. (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/threads/descended-challenge-10-results-and-rant.91951/page-6#post-1338712)
(spoiler to skmr I used I S I S oh no)
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Congratulations, that's impressive.
Meanwhile and speaking of congratulations(!) and silly projects, Shinji takes the first step on his journey through PAD.
(http://i.imgur.com/UGbtTnk.jpg)
I don't know, is using a Ryune friend cheating?
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I don't know, is using a Ryune friend cheating?
Not at all. Shinji is well known for riding the coattails of women far more competent than himself.
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Not at all. Shinji is well known for riding the coattails of women far more competent than himself.
On the contrary, besides his dad appointing him to saviour of the world, I don't remember any time a connection with a female got him anyplace better. His dad made him top dog, and then all the women took turns dragging him around on a leash, is more like it.
But anyway, I finally did it, my heart is still pounding. Took me two hours, the first hour for failing multiple times and the second hour for scrutinizing my every move to survive, but I finally beat Scarlet. There was a point at the penultimate Scarlet where I had to burst but couldn't because my whole board was flooded with reds for some insane reason, there were a total of 9 blacks and greens, and a total of 3 lights and heals. If I couldn't burst this turn, I was gonna die. But I couldn't, so I had to heal up with the one three heart combo. I was so frantic and I pulled up the calculator which said I needed to make 9 combos if I only had a single 3-heart combo to live her next attack. Which took me a quarter hour of paranoia and rerereretracing moves until finally committing. But I did it.
Woo. Boy.
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(http://i.imgur.com/wZcS6JH.png)
Commander, tell your husbando to stop annoying me ! >_>
(http://i.imgur.com/2ndebbq.png)
Also, Project A. Venus 80% Complete !
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(http://i.imgur.com/wZcS6JH.png)
Commander, tell your husbando to stop annoying me ! >_>
Nah, not mine. No glasses.
I do want to see super ultimate archangels in dungeons though. Or even regular ultimate archangels for that matter.
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I'm reasonably sure I heard ult Uriel is somewhere in a newer dungeon in JP but I forget.
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I'm reasonably sure I heard ult Uriel is somewhere in a newer dungeon in JP but I forget.
He's a 50/50 spawn on floor 4 of Noah Dragon, the other spawn is... R/L Minerva.
This is Regular-UVO Uriel btw, not UUVO
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That's because modern PAD teams can't even handle UUVO angels. Give it another year of power creep before we're ready for them. :o
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I've never played the full version of Bravely Default, but mrgrgr.
(http://i.imgur.com/9klwXQG.jpg)
This is annoying.
Silver lining: Osiris absolutely could not kill me if I didn't knock him into nuke range. Thus:
(http://i.imgur.com/C9WfcXT.jpg)
Achievement Unlocked: Who Needs Skill Bind Resistance?
(I'm aware this isn't new for that to be stalled out, but still.)
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That's because modern PAD teams can't even handle UUVO angels. Give it another year of power creep before we're ready for them. :o
I actually like to think that the monsters in dungeons are the monsters themselves at full power, and not being held back by the powers of us puny humans.
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That was me, yeah. I don't like Sharon for that reason. Obnoxious witch.
Not to mention that out of her other two sisters Laila and Leeza, she's the least popular even among the whales :(
(Laila is often used for either standalone or skill inherited onto Yamato Takeru on farm teams, Leeza is used standalone for Gon and skill inherited and/or Urahara... Sharon didn't see any use anywhere :< )
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Does anybody have a nicely formatted list of all of the descends in the game? Preferably in release order? I was thinking PDX did, but theirs is actually kind of a mess unless I'm overlooking a better one.
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The Descended tab seems to be in order. (http://puzzledragonx.com/?dir=1)
That said, it doesn't include Zeus, Hera, or Two Heroes anymore for obvious reasons. And anything of the "Enhanced" or "No Dupes" or anything other than Normal is in a separate list than.
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That is what I was thinking of, I guess I just couldn't find it. Thank you.
I'll find a more permanent place to put this later, but for now this is my progress report for Shinji's Big Adventure.
Two Heroes Descended--Clear
Hera Descended--Clear
Zeus Descended--Clear
Goddess Descended--Clear
Thief Descended--Clear
Hera-Is Descended
Satan Descended
Zeus-Dios Descended
Hera-Ur Descended--Clear
Athena Descended--Clear
Takeminakata Descended
Beelzebub Descended--Clear
Izanami Descended
Heracles Descended--Clear
Hera-Beorc Descended--Clear
Hera-Sowilo Descended
Zeus Vulcan Descended--Clear
Thoth & Sopdet Descended
Mephisto Descended
Zeus Mercury Descended
Cauchemar Descended--Clear
Zhao Yun Descended
Grimoires Descended--Clear
Medjedra Descended
Diagoldos Descended
Sonia Gran Descended
Zeus & Hera Descended
Sphinx Descended--Clear
Aamir Descended
Legelonte Descended
Journey to the West
Deus ex Machine Descended
Hel Descended
Heimdallr Descended
Yamatsumi Descended
Santa Claus Descended
Hephaestus Descended
Tengu!!!--Clear
Draggie!--Clear
RO Ace Collab
Gaia Descended--Clear
Sandalphon Descended--Clear
Wadatsumi Descended--Clear
Noah Descended
Zhang Fei!!
Kanetsugu!--Clear
Guan Yinping!
Dark Knight!
Kaguya-Hime
Zhou Yu!!
Indigo Descended
Surtr Descended
Aegir Descended
Takemikazuchi Descended
I'm pretty worried about Kaguya, Wadatsumi, Mephisto, and Xuanzang. I'm not anticipating anything else being too bad, and those are technically possible as far as I know (although I'll have to de-evolve for Xuanzang which is irritating). Is Dragon Zombie slated to get unrestricted at any point?
Also christ, are we really only four descends behind JP now? Have they considerably slowed their release schedule for descends? Now that I think about it I haven't really heard people talking about new ones in JP that much recently.
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JP seems to be on an PAD Radar dragon binge, so that might explain their slowing pace.
At least you aren't running away :V
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A couple notes: Dragon Zombie IS unrestricted; the Descended Challenge we have is a version JP got before the restrictions were removed, so it's in the old style; newer iterations are Dragon Enhanced.
Xuanzang Descended, meanwhile, does not exist. nor does Sha Wujing & Zhu Bajie Descended. Both of those are covered by Journey to the West from now on.
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Aaaaaw shit, that's good news. It's slightly weird that PDX still has the Journey to the West components listed then when they don't have Hera or Heroes listed, but I guess they didn't technically get demoted into another category, they just got retired. Thanks.
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A couple notes: Dragon Zombie IS unrestricted; the Descended Challenge we have is a version JP got before the restrictions were removed, so it's in the old style; newer iterations are Dragon Enhanced.
Yep, you guys have Descended Challenge 10 which was in Japan around December 2015
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Supergirl X Saria seems legit
Being able to get Orochi's full TPA damage is a boon of Fenrir for sure
Hysferzen is better than we give credit for. Huge HP stick and damage reduction, plus defense breaking as a bonus?
I don't think there are many Supergirl leads out there, though. At least Saria is popular.
Supergirl ult when? :|
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I don't think there are many Supergirl leads out there, though. At least Saria is popular.
Supergirl ult when? :|
I had the chance to add 2 supergirl helpers, but i didn't really know how she worked. :/
Also, didn't you stop using Tamapurin ? Doesn't that mean you should go back to being Fast Fanatic?
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darling, once you go dog, you never go back
Supergirl functions similarly to Archangels v2. X3 attack for matching any two of R/B/L and an automatic 1.5x ATK and RCV to Healers and Physical (of which a LOT of Light is either healer or Physical). Her active skill turns the left and right borders into Light and Water, respectively, plus a haste for good measure.
Now that she has doubledongs, she's "good" tier IMO but man only 4 Awoken skills is suffering at this point.
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(http://i.imgur.com/GhhWxTi.jpg)
That was actually surprisingly easy. Now I'm primarily worried about Kaguya. That might take some real out-of the-box teambuilding.
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OK, time to see what does the rank 250 machine give m-
(http://i.imgur.com/iRXcArgl.png) (http://imgur.com/iRXcArg)
I can't believe it
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...
/me twitches, recalling how his roll was a dupe Ganesha
/me mutters to self "Don't rage over freebies, don't rage over freebies, dont-"(etc)
Congrats though!
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That's the benefit of getting your trophy machine at the rank you're actually supposed to. Much less chance of duplicates. Both of mine were duplicates. Shitty ones.
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That's the benefit of getting your trophy machine at the rank you're actually supposed to. Much less chance of duplicates. Both of mine were duplicates. Shitty ones.
Hey, my 150 one was FALuci so that one was actually fantastic, haha.
Still though, GANESHA of all things? I mean come on. At least I didn't get doubleduped though so I guess I should count my blessings.
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Evolved Perseus to W/W (http://imgur.com/imPZEXx.png). Thankfully, now I can basically clinch the 9999 attacks from the stronger enemies as of now. For later, Leeza and Bastet.
I hate to ask, but is it possible to re-add me to the user list now? My ID is 323,897,388 as I said last thread.
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OK, time to see what does the rank 250 machine give m-
(http://i.imgur.com/iRXcArgl.png) (http://imgur.com/iRXcArg)
I can't believe it
(http://www.jotdown.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Darth-Vader-2.jpg)
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(http://www.jotdown.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Darth-Vader-2.jpg)
Don`t mind this silly Chirei, just treat her right and she`ll pay you back well !
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So Team Shinji's weaknesses are pretty much as expected. Which is to say, binds. It has no way to deal with binds and can't really hit hard enough often enough to always be able to just blast past things that might bind me. And also as expected I'm pretty much never finding myself using Kraken Rider's active. She's not skilled up which doesn't help, but she's just pretty weak in general. I'm considering replacing her with Snow White even though she isn't an attacker. Hypermax Snow White stats vs. 1.5x Kraken Rider stats is relatively comparable except for damage (although the damage is kind of important actually since the team is so weak), and Snow White's active is a million times more useful.
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Sandalphon ult's coming out tomorrow.
Added SBR, 2nd bind resist.
LS: Healer type x1.5 HP, x3 ATK.
that's all.
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So LS parity with NYSandy, bind immunity which is neat, and SBR which is always cool? I can get behimd that for people who didnt score NYSandy, for sure. Maybe not the strongest ever but not horrible for what he is.
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A worthwhile ult. I approve.
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Seems pretty solid. I probably would have led with him when I was starting out.
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I hate to ask, but is it possible to re-add me to the user list now? My ID is 323,897,388 as I said last thread.
You're in the OP now, but remember to always list your main leads when asking for this kind of thing. (For the record, you're in the list but no leaders listed.)
Meanwhile, this x10 descends has been a blessing, I finished plussing my Ame No Uzume, my Awoken Tsukuyomi and am almost done plussing my LKali (5 RCV eggs left.)
After that I gotta make a choice: Which one of the two do I use on my Horus team? Rozuel or GOdin? GOdin gives me more bulk, but I certainly already have enough of it, Rozuel gives me emergency healing and more damage, but significantly less bulk (which has been a massive blessing for this team).
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You're in the OP now, but remember to always list your main leads when asking for this kind of thing. (For the record, you're in the list but no leaders listed.)
Ahh, thanks. My leader is VD Perseus.
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What an unfortunate shorthand name.
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Just realized that B/R haku has god and dragon killer. So if I ever get to do arena, I could get a free 9x off of dkali, or get 3x and normal 2x bonus off of lkali. I wonder if that makes up for the shield, that should essentially be like a free attack with the whole party.
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Fun fact: All of the RGBD Chinagirls' "easy" ults have both of those Killers as of Ver. 8.8. I'm raising a B/G Karin myself just so I can get in on the shenanigans. Gonna be goooood.
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Max skill Ganesha?
Max skill Ganesha.
Thank you for always dropping on Int difficulty, Lex.
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Fuck me. I thought doing the BvS master dungeon would've been a good idea so I could sell the better drops for MP (I misread the original post about the MP update on the PADx site) and procedded to lose a soul-crushing 10 stones on
Doomsday
. :colonveeplusalpha:
That being said, what is the best thing for a midranked user to do to get good high-MP monsters?
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That being said, what is the best thing for a midranked user to do to get good high-MP monsters?
Your only real options are to spend all your mythril at the REM during godfests and sell all your dupes, or whale. I don't recommend the latter.
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Well, you can whale, assuming you have an income, but IMO, it usually isn't worth it, as you'll likely get trolled out during Godfests (which happens anyways), or you'll sell stuff for MP, and few of the MP Dragons are worth real, hard-earned cash. Not to mention, grinding (again, IMO) kind of adds to the game's charm, so whaling all the time isn't really any fun, unless you actually need (and have a decent chance at) a certain monster. I guess whaling once in a while is okay, but if you go down that route, restrain yourself heavily so that you don't get desire
trolled played.
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Fuck me. I thought doing the BvS master dungeon would've been a good idea so I could sell the better drops for MP (I misread the original post about the MP update on the PADx site) and procedded to lose a soul-crushing 10 stones on Doomsday
. :colonveeplusalpha:
That being said, what is the best thing for a midranked user to do to get good high-MP monsters?
Oh christ. That sucks.
Uh, don't. Mid-rank players aren't really supposed to have a ton of MP. You'll rack it up over time, but I wouldn't worry about trying to farm it. The only half-decent ways of doing that that we have right now aren't really accessible to low-level players, and even if they were your time is probably better spent just accumulating REM stuff at this point.
If I'm not mistaken we'll eventually get an event that boosts the sell rate for REM bosses and at that point there are a few rushes that give decent MP when farmed, but you'll need a decent team before then to take full advantage of that. And you probably won't get a decent team by just trying to farm MP.
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Fuck me. I thought doing the BvS master dungeon would've been a good idea so I could sell the better drops for MP (I misread the original post about the MP update on the PADx site) and procedded to lose a soul-crushing 10 stones on Doomsday
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That being said, what is the best thing for a midranked user to do to get good high-MP monsters?
Tip: Don't stone when you die. If they can kill you once, they can kill you again. and again. and again. and(etc)
It's frustrating, but you'll get the stamina back in at most 2 and a half hours from most dungeons so it's not a huge loss if you end up flubbing.
Monster Point Value Guide(Does not include collab REM rates because I don't have all of them memorized):
Dungeon drops(non-boss): 1
Boss(biweekly-style dungeons, like the paired machine dragons, flower dragons, pirate dragons, etc): 5
Descend Boss: 10
*Sometimes you'll see members of the latter two categories as midbosses in later stages. Their MP sale values remain 5 and 10, respectively.
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*REM MP rates are based on the monster's BASE form rarity, REGARDLESS of what form it comes out of the REM and/or you sell it at. (i.e. if you get an evolved form of a 4* card it's still only worth 3,000 MP)
4*: 3,000
5*/6*: 5,000
5*(Godfest Exclusive): 15,000
6*(Godfest Exclusive): 50,000
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PreDRAs(aka farmables/earnables designed specifically for selling for MP; might also be skillup fodder but use as such is not recommended):
Baby PreDRA: 100
(color) PreDRA: 500
PreDRA: 3,000
Grand PreDRA: 10,000
(supposedly there is going to be a King PreDRA or something I THINK, but details as of yet are unknown as far as I recall)
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Most of us have acquired a great amount of Good Subs and Leads of many Atts. and kinds.
You just need to save all the stones you get from Events, Clears and the likes, then wait for a Godfest with the kinds of monsters you want.
Heck, some great cards are even farmable, you just need to build the team right and have patience.
tl;dr: Don`t use continues, don`t stone for stamina, just save up those and wait for that GF, you`ll have like 25 stones to just go nuts and roll like a madman.
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don`t stone for stamina
I agree that continues are almost never worth it, but stoning for stamina is not necessarily a bad thing. You don't want to abuse it at lower ranks because you just won't get as much bang for your buck, but there are absolutely, absolutely times when stoning for stamina is a great idea.
PreDra Infestation and 10x descends are chief among them, but also sometimes Tamadra dungeons or even in rare cases when farming for skillups can be totally worth it. There's a certain critical mass of trashy godfests where you get nothing for your 50 stones where you realized that the REM is not always the best place to spend stones. You almost need to do some REM, but you can get a shitload of latents and monster points from PreDra carnival for the same five stones that you'll probably get trash with from the REM. And given that latents cost more than one REM god gives in MP, it becomes a pretty great deal pretty quickly.
Edit: And while I just said you can farm MP from PreDra Infestation, and you can, it's still not really equivalent to just being able to grind out a big monster point purchase. It still takes a long time to accumulate enough points to do anything that way. They're more of a very nice bonus than the main attraction.
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I agree that continues are almost never worth it, but stoning for stamina is not necessarily a bad thing. You don't want to abuse it at lower ranks because you just won't get as much bang for your buck, but there are absolutely, absolutely times when stoning for stamina is a great idea.
Yea, i forgot to put that it`s only bad when you have a small stamina bar.
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:wikipedia:
Aye, thanks everyone for all of the responses. Looking back (to about half an hour ago when I actually did the dungeon :V), it was rather dumb of an idea to stonecontinue so damn hard, so yeah I will probably use y'alls recommendations as a fallback no matter what goes flippant, Except whaling, of course, because fuck that.
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I'd say stoning for stamina gets really appealing at around 200. idk if you want to do it that much beforehand.
Also, ult Sandalphon looks creepy.
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Also, ult Sandalphon looks creepy.
They did his art bad, wings and eyes is Sahaquiel's thing, not Sandalphon's thing. :V
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Ragnarok buffs. I'm interested in using him, but am unsure how to build a team.
Canopus with a skill link sounds good. Maybe take Awoken Bastet's skill?
G/B Puppet covers blue but would obviously cost another 250000 MP.
Spica converts heart to wood for ~even more damage~. Two SBR is also invaluable in this case because neither Puppet nor Canopus have a SBR.
Still need a way to cover red and hit that fifth SBR. That seems to be DKali's void to fill, but for nonwhales I suppose ~Gainaut~ will have to do. More jammers for Spica to convert, too.
I just need. 550000 MP and a Spica. I'll get right to it.
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Friday Dungeon is a mouthful.
Using Wukong/Saria is proving to be effective, but still failed 3 runs.
First one was because i forgot Echidna :V
Second and Third were to Floor 2 cause not maxskilled and couldn't stall at Floor 1.
They really did this to annoy people right ? Just like the color fruits one.
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Oh, and remember you have a 50/50 shot of getting the one you want at the end.
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There was a time when people called these the "endgame evo material dungeons". They were originally meant to be done with complete endgame teams. They've been demoted to late earlygame or early midgame, but they're still dangerous. There's not a floor in any of them (except maybe the demon masks in Wednesday Dungeon) that won't kill you if you're not careful.
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Trifruits is really a damage race. "Can you hit this hard this quickly?"
Twinlits is just gimmicky.
(http://imgur.com/LAzSWml.jpg)
fenrir plz stop
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Twinlits is just gimmicky
(http://imgur.com/LAzSWml.jpg)
fenrir plz stop
From using the cutest dog ever to the deadliest one, Jammer meta is some really strong shit, *Looks at Denebola*, sadly i don't have much for a team like that.
Also, i CAN burst, however not without a good board !! :V
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Rewards from the last ranking dungeon are in. Got my Grand PreDra, I'm happy. It really is a shame to ever let one of those guys pass by.
I'm pretty much at the point that I could make another MP purchase right now if I dump a couple of spare godfest exclusives, but there's not a ton I want. I am considering Ragnarok, but I'd have to do a lot more research. Or maybe a puppet, although I'm mad I can't link their skills... And I want 2-3 skill delay resists at some point. Do we have any kind of timeframe for when to expect those to go on sale?
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Rewards from the last ranking dungeon are in. Got my Grand PreDra, I'm happy. It really is a shame to ever let one of those guys pass by.
(http://i.imgur.com/BxgfBWp.png)
Ah... thank you, all. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NuFVQk_CCs)
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It will bother me forever that the best clip of that scene on Youtube is from the dub. I guess I could just upload the sub version myself.
Also, I see four mails. Does that mean one is a crown? Or is it just more piis?
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Three Pys and a Grand PreDRA in total for top tenth percentile.
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Oh that sucks, last dragon of legendary snowy valley has 30% resolve and gtfo at <30% there goes 99 stamina.
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Oh that sucks, last dragon of legendary snowy valley has 30% resolve and gtfo at <30% there goes 99 stamina.
Guessing take gravity time ?
Also, this:
(http://i.imgur.com/pVpOGZ9.jpg)
Closest Run, god fucking damnit that Tamadra, had to bind my Echidna and die to the fire attacks, good thing Raphael is a big ass voider with heartmaking, still lost tho. 200 stamina total down the drain. (e_e)
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Yeah, Ilsix is a piece of shit. Pretty much need that bulky meta (or a hefty shield) and even then it's not super easy. I can't even really get close to beating him on challenge mode.
Starlight: Keep in mind when fighting the Tamadra that you don't actually have to make matches against him to time out his binds. You can just shuffle two orbs back and forth for dozens of turns until you get a good result.
And at least you know you weren't going to drop the drop you wanted on that run...
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Update:
Fifth Run, let do this !
*Board with just 2 light orbs and fire orbs.*
.......................GungHo, you really want me to stone huh ? Never !
*Dies at first turn.*
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Do you have white Valkyrie? Being able to turn around any bad board and make it work is kind of an important part of any good team. Especially on the first few turns.
Kali shouldn't be on that team unless I'm overlooking some weird utility she has. I'd say remove Kali, go get Rose, and give it another go when she's ready. Losing skillboosts sucks, but you're apparently not using them early anyway and you'll still have a decent number. And thanks to her recent buff Rose at least has one now.
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Oh hey, that looks familiar!
(http://i.imgur.com/dYdp36L.png)
Had to blow okuni's delay on the dubmythlits, and then didn't have a decent board for the rest.
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Do you have white Valkyrie? Being able to turn around any bad board and make it work is kind of an important part of any good team. Especially on the first few turns.
Nope, can`t really run The Goddess right now, need some more stuff, Kali is in there cause i don`t have anything else in terms of Rows an as a stat stick, also the AS helps out, i`d put Venus, but she has no awakenings, not UEvo`d and is still lvl 20.
Oh hey, that looks familiar!
(http://i.imgur.com/dYdp36L.png)
Had to blow okuni's delay on the dubmythlits, and then didn't have a decent board for the rest.
And i had to blow Raphael`s AS to safe my skin at the start, i guess we`re two sides of the same coin, but hey, at least your team is faring better than mine`s. :3
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Nope, can`t really run The Goddess right now, need some more stuff, Kali is in there cause i don`t have anything else in terms of Rows an as a stat stick, also the AS helps out, i`d put Venus, but she has no awakenings, not UEvo`d and is still lvl 20.
This is almost one of those very rare times when I would recommend using continues to go get a Rose, but she kind of needs to be skillmax to be worth it and Poring Tower is nowhere to be seen. You shouldn't really need her super ultimate at this point, but yeah, skillmax is kind of the point of her. In the long run though I'm guessing she's probably going to do more for your team as a sub than Venus will be.
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*Finds out Famiel is in Director`s Carnival.*
AGGHHH!!!! Why now ?!?!? Why not on a GF ? ;-; My heart is pushing me to roll, but i`m likely to get GungTrolled, help !
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Why do you want a famiel so badly?
Yeah, Ilsix is a piece of shit. Pretty much need that bulky meta (or a hefty shield) and even then it's not super easy. I can't even really get close to beating him on challenge mode.
Oh that's this ilsix I keep hearing about, no wonder.
Also, apparently predra infestation tomorrow? Time aren't listed, but I hope so, because I need to farm two more hp latents to finish pentamaxing panda.
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Why do you want a famiel so badly?
Also, apparently predra infestation tomorrow? Time aren't listed, but I hope so, because I need to farm two more hp latents to finish pentamaxing panda.
It`s cause she`s so cute and adorable, and she would synergize so well with my Skuld Team with her U/Y Board AS, also 3 TPAs and unbindable along with a True Damage Buff and CD Buff to AS.
Kinda like a waifu, but as a daughter, so Daughterfu. :V
And yea, PreDras, so i`d better get ready for it and set up the Rank EXP to level up after i finish running it twice.
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Decided to do some Director's Carnival pulls fishing for Valkyries. Got Ruel and a third Muse. Keeping both (since I sold my second Muse pre-skill inheritance). Not bad for being such a bad idea.
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Hate to be a wet blanket, but as far as I'm reading up, famiel isn't exactly an ideal sub on a skuld party. But it's still your choice if you want her, I mean. I don't play norns so I don't know for sure, but my guess is you would either want green subs or non-green subs with quick orb changes, some other utility function, or at least good HP. Famiel might be unbindable, but that seems about it, she doesn't even have a row clear to make use of that. Skuld probably needs her recovery to live, making binds pretty dangerous.
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Yeah I'd be comfortable calling Famiel a dubious-tier Skuld sub. People disagree with me on this sometimes, but stacking board changes on top of board changes is really counterproductive. The upside is that Famiel is a heavy-hitter on prong teams, but there are better options that have useful actives as well as decent awakenings. Not the worst idea ever, but pretty far down the list of things Skuld wants by my estimation.
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Also, about getting a wvalk, I checked the poring tower page recently because I needed to skill up my dvalk, and I noticed that it's on around a 3 month cycle. Or at least that was the trend. So if gungho feels generous, we maaaaay be getting that soon, in a couple weeks, since the last one was late January. So get her while you can, she's worth getting, even stoning for early on.
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Hmm, well, in the Bind Clear department, i already have Snow White, so that isn`t really an issue, and regarding B/G, there`s A. Isis, who is also on the Carnival, Muse as said by CCool, Sun Quan (AS won`t work very well with all the team), Ars Paulina (Who has no natural RCV), Apex Blue Flower Dragon and A. Viper Orochi, there are a bit more, most of them are pretty good i admit, i`ll see about it, but i can just say that even Chirei said he doesn`t really care about if the subs have Wood type/subtype, and he`s the known Skuld user
And Skuld Tsundere Lover around here.
Ehh, i dunno, i`ll just roll and be whatever the REM Gods wish, the daughterfu factor still applies and outweights all.
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The stars have converged!
(http://i.imgur.com/FxFYNuql.png)
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Rolling outside of gfes begs trolling, I'd say hold off until angels 2 comes back again. I doubt your water team is sufficiently developed to be immediately useful even if you do magically land her anyway, so I'd say use a little restraint. Would be wiser.
e: gratz on the clear!
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Lucky you ! Now my turn !
And i`ll try, it`s just.... she`s so cute, i`d adopt her any day. :3 That`s how much i`m a sucker for cuteness.
Edit: AGAIN ! WHY CAN`T I GET A GOOD STARTING BOARD ? AHHHHH! RIP possible Angelit.
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The rem was designed to break the hearts of wide-eyed, hopeful people like you. (followed by your piggy banks)
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Just for the record, here are some Norn guidelines. These are very common pitfalls that a lot of people fall into when making Norn teams.
-Norns are not good Norn subs. Neither are Chinese or other boardchanges. Two boardchanges is almost too many, but any more is very wasteful.
-Don't feel constrained to using subs with matching subattributes. Two Norn leads counting their own attributes is a decent stat boost already. Having more is nice obviously, especially since some cards (Awoken Orochi) were handcrafted specifically to be Norn subs, but just matching main attributes is fine if the sub is otherwise a good fit.
-Norns are designed to work with farmable cards to some degree. They're not a REM sub contest. Skuld gets the short end of the stick here unfortunately since her grimoire is kibd of sketchy, but she can still use plenty of other farmable options (Siegfried). Don't feel like you have to stack REM cards just to do it.
-Your utility slots are at a premium, so flex slots are probably necessary. Because Norns require orbchanges to even out their active they often don't have room for an enhance and a shield and a bind clear. Double duty subs like Fairy Tales or Dragon Swordsmen are great, and be prepared to have a rotating cast of non-permanent utility subs.
Edit: Please note that I am not a Norn expert. This is very basic advice stemming mostly from my attempts to fix my dumb friends' trash-tier Norn teams.
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Okay ! I`ll see what i can put together with my lackish sense of building and incapability to run Twinlits.
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The rem was designed to break the hearts of wide-eyed, hopeful people like you. (followed by your piggy banks)
Pretty much. Rolling for favoritism never works out in the end, because people often do get what they want and then realize that they were dumb and just blew all their stones on something that doesn't help them progress. Please ignore that fact that I have done this.
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The rem was designed to break the hearts of wide-eyed, hopeful people like you. (followed by your piggy banks)
I don`t have a piggy-bank, but my savings are reserved for other stuff already. :D
And my heart can be damaged, but my hope is pretty tough.
But yea, i`ll try to just roll when they are on good REM choices.
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Pretty much. Rolling for favoritism never works out in the end, because people often do get what they want and then realize that they were dumb and just blew all their stones on something that doesn't help them progress. Please ignore that fact that I have done this.
Heart Misato. Have never used Misato ever.:derp:
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I just roll every godfest once because you'll almost certainly get -something- good on some team.
Still ended up with three Gabriels, Persephone, and Byakko. No sign of Karin, Raphael, Michael, Uriel, or any of the other Greek v2 folk...
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Sixth Attempt failed again at Floor 2, i was 1K away of healing to live, but alas.
I`m useless, might as well just give up, but then what is the point if i give up ?
I`ll just keep trying.
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Unrelated:
Just wondering, some people here seem to be posting the entire day. I mean, I get Time Zone differences are a thing, but seriously, I got home today and saw two new pages of posts (granted, there were a lot of images in there). Do any of you work in the office? Or have school?
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On another note, I saw the Sapphire Dragon Infestation that just ended for my group, and I made a stupid decision, going into it with a team I've never used just to try out an Academy Isis Helper. 50 stam wasted.
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I post from work a lot. Usually when I have a little downtime between projects or on breaks. Oooooor when I'm supposed to be working...
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My posting frequency goes skyhigh at the fridays and weekends, cause no school, but it`s more like having less stuff to do since 32-bit limits options and this period of the year makes time strict.
And now that i have mobile data, it means less wasted stamina and more posts at breaks. :D
Although i wish i worked, even with this place`s minimum wage of 880 reais = 251 Dolars a month approximate, it`s still money, and work experience is quite useful.
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My posting frequency goes skyhigh at the fridays and weekends, cause no school, but it`s more like having less stuff to do since 32-bit limits options and this period of the year makes time strict.
And now that i have mobile data, it means less wasted stamina and more posts at breaks. :D
Although i wish i worked, even with this place`s minimum wage of 880 reais = 251 Dolars a month approximate, it`s still money, and work experience is quite useful.
So... High School, working as an intern? That sounds like what you're describing.
I don't exactly get very long breaks (4 minutes, including walking across the building from room to room), so I only post from around 2:45-8:00 from Monday to Friday, and random times on weekends.
Oooooor when I'm supposed to be working...
Yeeeeaaah... This is usually what I do... Except that I'm actually playing instead of posting.
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So... High School, working as an intern? That sounds like what you're describing.
Well, i`m am a high schooler, yet i haven`t found work yet, i wish though.
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Yeeeeaaah... This is usually what I do... Except that I'm actually playing instead of posting.
Yeah, at least I don't play during work that often. Sometimes I run a dungeon on my break or while waiting in line at the bank or something, but mostly I don't. That means I just burn all of my stamina in the morning before going in though, which is time that I could be working if I just left earlier, so there is that...
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Hey, should I roll the Director's Carnival? I'm feeling lucky because I got Pollux on the last one, but that luck might be reason enough not to roll.
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Hey, should I roll the Director's Carnival? I'm feeling lucky because I got Pollux on the last one, but that luck might be reason enough not to roll.
Not really worth it unless you REALLY want a Valkyrie and REALLY can`t wait, i was just considering rolling for Famiel, and even then i changed my mind.
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Heh. Who needs gods when you have DRAGONS
(http://imgur.com/Ps86vs0.jpg)
Poor apocalypse didn't help during the fight at all. Poor guy. (I lied, I used his active skill twice in the battle)
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Okay, does Black Sonia always absorb your main element somehow? I've had her pull blue absorb four times in a row now.
NepDra could smash her regardless, but I have to beat her with Gabriel first... And it's really annoying.
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She pulled Blue on me on my attempt. Didn't phase me because dark main, but...
I imagine the 10 turn time limit and constant defense buffs isn't Gabriel friendly, huh?
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No it isn't.
Fifth attempt she pulled green resist, but I skyfell into a dark attack during my burst and Ryune hit her back to life. She apparently skips Draco-Summon Dragon Portal and Draggie at low health too, so she just instantly killed me. There is literally no way to get around that coin flip. If I get a black skyfall I just lose, no matter what. Yaaaaay...
My phone is almost out of battery, so I guess I'm done for now. I'll probably do this tonight, I have plenty of stamina, but this is getting fucking annoying.
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There's no hope of dealing 16 million damage during the damage resist skill with, say, Beyzul + Neptunedora?
Or is that a bit too much even for DRAGON STAT BUFFS
I suppose Ryune gets Dragon buff, too, huh? I dunno what you should do other than hope for good "rngesus"
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I could probably pull 16 million with a NepDra friend, yeah. But I kind of need Ryune for other reasons. I think losing the board change would hurt my chances more than gaining the extra damage would help it. And I tried but 16 million with just Beyzul+Ryune isn't quite possible without luck. With one off-color skyfall I dropped him down to insta-kill range in two of my earlier runs. That's why this would be easy with NepDra, he could hit 16 million no problem, but husbando needs his due fiiiiiirst...
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[Fair Skies Guardian Dragon - Skill]
"Let's do it! Threedia!!!"
『 Overlord's Hand - World-Wrecking Windstorm 』
(http://i.imgur.com/Y2lolX4.png) (http://i.imgur.com/1fOBpci.png) (http://i.imgur.com/TWTwlMN.png)
Unrelated:
Just wondering, some people here seem to be posting the entire day. I mean, I get Time Zone differences are a thing, but seriously, I got home today and saw two new pages of posts (granted, there were a lot of images in there). Do any of you work in the office? Or have school?
I have a lot of free time.
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(http://i.imgur.com/GCyIhP0.jpg)
There we go. Christ. Don't deny my husbando, he will get his eventually.
Gratifying to know that I will never have to do that again. All subsequent clears will be carried out by Neptune Dragon. Well, and one for Shinji eventually. Somehow. I think I'm going to need skill inheritance for that one.
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No it isn't.
Fifth attempt she pulled green resist, but I skyfell into a dark attack during my burst and Ryune hit her back to life.
is it not possible to stall out the absorb... it's only 3 turns lol
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"mmm, how can i waste some stamina.... ok Gran Reverse BLIND!"
> 0-stone it first try bringing only Yomidra leads as dragon-type
:dragonforce:
Reading the comments here i was like "what are they talking about? Didn't Gran absorb 3 colors at the same time?", then i went to check pdx and now i understand.... not like it would have changed anything for me, since dark is ALWAYS absorbed (blatantly baiting ccool's trigger answer :P)
@Zengar: i wanted to congratulate you on your twinlit clear, then i noticed 2 cards in your team..... paru paru paru paru paru.......
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is it not possible to stall out the absorb... it's only 3 turns lol
I don't understand what you mean. Yeah, it's only three turns. That makes it extremely possible to stall out.
"mmm, how can i waste some stamina.... ok Gran Reverse BLIND!"
> 0-stone it first try bringing only Yomidra leads as dragon-type
:dragonforce:
Reading the comments here i was like "what are they talking about? Didn't Gran absorb 3 colors at the same time?", then i went to check pdx and now i understand.... not like it would have changed anything for me, since dark is ALWAYS absorbed (blatantly baiting ccool's trigger answer :P)
@Zengar: i wanted to congratulate you on your twinlit clear, then i noticed 2 cards in your team..... paru paru paru paru paru.......
See this is why it's bad habit for me to abruptly wake up out of a dead sleep and then immrdiately start posting: I read " dark is always absorbed" as "the absorb never runs out" rather than that it always gets selected and I typed up a big long thing about how that's not the case, but I get it now.
Yeah, I think you cam deal with that. I mean clearly... And I could counter that by saying that the two colors that always get absorbed are also the only two colors that are super effective against her, so it's certainly not like you don't get anything. Plus, you know, the tricolors are guaranteed to be resisted by one Sonia and maybe several more floors besides.
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The desire sensors are real, I spent an hour and a half -so 6 mil- on the evo coin dungeon to try and get one single dark dublit, got 5+ of every other color I don't even understand I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND. It just BLOWS my mind. Never again.
On the other hand, I finally got the d/r haku to try out on sonia gran reverse. Does the double killer actually do 9x damage? Or is it still only 3x? The numbers fade away too quickly for me to be able to tell.
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@Zengar: i wanted to congratulate you on your twinlit clear, then i noticed 2 cards in your team..... paru paru paru paru paru.......
Oh yea, you don't have Eschamali or that other card right ? Hmm....... that means i'm probably roll her in GF then, and she'll stay at the box with little to do cause i don't run Dark. :/
I'd gladly trade her for your Amaterasu. :VOn the other hand, I finally got the d/r haku to try out on sonia gran reverse. Does the double killer actually do 9x damage? Or is it still only 3x? The numbers fade away too quickly for me to be able to tell.
It add an 9x multiplier just for that card, yea, have fun !!
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Chirei, can you friend me again? I need to unfriend and refriend you.
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Chirei, can you friend me again? I need to unfriend and refriend you.
Uhh... why? Did your data mess up? Because unfriending me means your Best Friend selection on me is now lost forever, even if I refriend you.
EDIT: Your ID on your padherder seems to be wrong.
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As usual, Ronia is the true boss. Rest was easy.
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Yeah, I like how they gave the other two new movesets, but not Ronia. She was ultimate Ronia in the original Sonia Gran while her sisters were non-ultimate, right? Still, the contrast is funny. She's still the hardest one.
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Uhh... why? Did your data mess up?
The only reason is I wanted to see if unfriending and refriending refreshed the Helper list at all. I don't really mind any consequences.
EDIT: Specfically the Best Friend slot, because I think the data for that is stored differently.
Because unfriending me means your Best Friend selection on me is now lost forever, even if I refriend you.
Yeah, I realize that. I'm being a bit masochistic right now, not to mention I only need that on the Weekends.
EDIT: Your ID on your padherder seems to be wrong.
309,703,434. And I fixed it in PADherder.
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Gabriel and Karin appears to be a 100% safe farming setup for Indigo.
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I don't understand what you mean. Yeah, it's only three turns. That makes it extremely possible to stall out
so why are you doing a kill board while the dark absorb is still up?
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The only reason is I wanted to see if unfriending and refriending refreshed the Helper list at all. I don't really mind any consequences.
EDIT: Specfically the Best Friend slot, because I think the data for that is stored differently.
Yeah, I realize that. I'm being a bit masochistic right now, not to mention I only need that on the Weekends.
All you had to do was go back to the title screen, actually. That was quite a hefty price to pay...
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Well, damn. Okay, then. I can handle it until the next reset, though. Easily.
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so why are you doing a kill board while the dark absorb is still up?
Because as soon as it goes down her 50% damage reduction goes up. As I said earlier, I just barely fall short of killing her with two rows and one skyfall once she has her shield up. She always has some kind of defense buff, and dark absorb is the most manageable one for this team.
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Because as soon as it goes down her 50% damage reduction goes up. As I said earlier, I just barely fall short of killing her with two rows and one skyfall once she has her shield up. She always has some kind of defense buff, and dark absorb is the most manageable one for this team.
I don't recall her 50% damage shield being scripted but that might just be my bad memory, it's been a couple of months...
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@Zengar: i wanted to congratulate you on your twinlit clear, then i noticed 2 cards in your team..... paru paru paru paru paru.......
Yesss.... I've been waiting for this day! I grow even STRONGER!
On other news today we have both tamas and predras in short succession. Why, GH ;;
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Yesss.... I've been waiting for this day! I grow even STRONGER!
On other news today we have both tamas and predras in short succession. Why, GH ;;
ONE STEP AHEAD ! I just planned everything and got my EXP setup for 3 runs. :D
But seriously, i need them bad.
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I don't recall her 50% damage shield being scripted but that might just be my bad memory, it's been a couple of months...
It may be random which defense boost she gets, but I got the 50% reduction every time first. And the other ones are even worse, so it doesn't really matter that much. Regardless, after her absorb ends she immediately gains something else that's even harder for that team to handle.
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Pretty sure it's fixed.
Dragon Portal
(random dragon attack)
Shield(2 turns damage halve)
(random dragon attack)
Skill(2 turns absorb combos under 7)
(random dragon skill)
Balance(2 turns null hits above 800k)
(random dragon skill)
Judge(2 turns absorb hits above 1.5m)
(random dragon skill)
Draggie(1 turn damage boost and 75% shield)
Alt. Five Origin Dragon Star Attack
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That's consistent with what I was seeing. And to repeat myself from earlier, Dragon Star Attack has priority over everything below 15% health.
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Can at least confirm everything up to the Skill shield. It seems to make sense, at least.
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That's consistent with what I was seeing. And to repeat myself from earlier, Dragon Star Attack has priority over everything below 15% health.
Yep. I definitely ran headfirst into this, expecting her to draggie buff herself first.
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First time I made it to her same thing happened. Ugh, blew so much stam to down her for some reason...
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(http://i.imgur.com/KP2yXSW.jpg)
Thanks PreDra Infestation. My boy's finished.
I think I might be done with PreDra Infestation for a while though. Running out of places to put non-finger latents and starting to get too uneven of a distribution of rainbow resists.
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oh predra infestation guess i can get my last dark resist and finally finish my-
>10 runs no dark spawns
right that's why i dont play this game anymore
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oops I slept through predras, dang. Is it like once every month now?
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oops I slept through predras, dang. Is it like once every month now?
I`d say more like twice a month.
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Is there a good use for Ruel? Her art is fucking badass (superfluous underboob aside). I think I've got a thing for women with gigantic claw hands. :derp:
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Is that why you use Ryune as a friend so much? (Because Ryune friendzoned you and won't drop from the REM? :V)
Anyways, Ruel. Green devils isn't too fleshed out, but. Awoken Artemis, Awoken Freyja will get you some TPAs. G/D Meimei has those sweet God and Dragon killers.
Ruel's active skill is a little dubious compared to Ariel or Rozuel. You might get more mileage fielding Awoken Freyja for the G/D enhance and focusing on a balance of Dark and Wood devils, of which there are plenty of dark devils willing to oblige.
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Is that why you use Ryune as a friend so much? (Because Ryune friendzoned you and won't drop from the REM? :V)
Anyways, Ruel. Green devils isn't too fleshed out, but. Awoken Artemis, Awoken Freyja will get you some TPAs. G/D Meimei has those sweet God and Dragon killers.
Ruel's active skill is a little dubious compared to Ariel or Rozuel. You might get more mileage fielding Awoken Freyja for the G/D enhance and focusing on a balance of Dark and Wood devils, of which there are plenty of dark devils willing to oblige.
Feels like he'd have an easier time just leading with Awoken Freyja at that point.
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Is that why you use Ryune as a friend so much? (Because Ryune friendzoned you and won't drop from the REM? :V)
I honestly wouldn't use her if I pulled her. I'm perfectly happy with her being a friend lead. Don't really see that much merit in Ryune/Ryune. But she is badass.
Anyways, Ruel. Green devils isn't too fleshed out, but. Awoken Artemis, Awoken Freyja will get you some TPAs. G/D Meimei has those sweet God and Dragon killers.
Ruel's active skill is a little dubious compared to Ariel or Rozuel. You might get more mileage fielding Awoken Freyja for the G/D enhance and focusing on a balance of Dark and Wood devils, of which there are plenty of dark devils willing to oblige.
Don't own Artemis or Freyja. I've got Meims, but she's Awoken now. I might consider swapping her though because those new awakenings are niiice.
I'm not really committed to leading with Ruel actually, she doesn't seem like a great lead. I was just wondering if there was a team out there that could make effective use of her kind-of-bad active.
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There might be a time where only the leads are targeted by a bind? Fighting Michael?
tbh Lumiel and Famiel have true damage to kill him
The other HP boosting green leads are Sylvie and Astaroth, who are far more row based than TPA.
I can see Ruel working for... Karin if you happen to use Zeus Mercury or Noah for SOOOOME reason?
Ruel needs a buff like "Enhance wood orbs" or true damage like Famiel and Lumiel tacked onto her active skill.
Creating 3 orbs of one color is nice and spammable - see Grimoires, Kagoogs, Ariel. Three orbs of two colors each is difficult to work with. It might give Awoken Bastet more combos to work with but I don't know what else. It's too unpredictable.
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(http://i.imgur.com/R5PLHYc.jpg)
yes it did take 71 feeds
it's finally done though so all i need to worry about is those robot parts :/
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That shonen collabs has a lot of new hel subs in there, gin in particular looks amazing with green->dark light->poison, so basically the poison variant of panda's active. I wish she would get more subs that weren't jp only, collab only, or collab rem only. And had better awoken skills, these are all pretty pitiful.
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I guess I should have posted this yesterday.
"I didn't trust myself, or you, enough last time, and we paid the price. Now, however...Karin! Let's do this!"
(http://i.imgur.com/fIgXb5Y.jpg)
The rest of the floors basically do not exist, but :resist:.
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Is that the Karin team you usually use? Two delays, a shield, and a heartmaker is some hardcore defense, especially on a team with solid HP and natural damage reduction.
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I accidentally beat Gran Reverse.
Got her to Judge and was stalling for orb setup, and then got a bunch of skyfalls and killed her while staying under the 1.5m threshold. Hooray?
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Is that the Karin team you usually use? Two delays, a shield, and a heartmaker is some hardcore defense, especially on a team with solid HP and natural damage reduction.
Usually, though sometimes I remember to switch something out(usually Orochi, occasionally SQ for like Alrescha or some such depending on the stage (and ANeptune comes out for Rushes)who I probably should have brought this time. DMeta is basically cemented in because of my lack of better dark coverage. Considering raising an Indigo maybe, though random spawn actives make me nervous with a color match lead like Karin.
I seriously need Andromeda or Gabriel though, like...yesterday. My ability to clear stuff would skyrocket more than likely if I had one or the other.
The team is actually sort of squishy though vs fire and light under normal circumstances(24-25kish HP)it just so happens all but one card is a dragon so I got a huge stat boost in here.
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Oh right, I forgot about the huge stat boost. That makes sense.
How do you burst with it? Is it just a matter of using Karin's active and hoping you don't get too few blue orbs, or is there some other way? And what kind of damage does it do? I could see Chinese with some rows hitting pretty hard if you can get things just right, but it seems like getting to that point would be tricky.
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Oh right, I forgot about the huge stat boost. That makes sense.
How do you burst with it? Is it just a matter of using Karin's active and hoping you don't get too few blue orbs, or is there some other way? And what kind of damage does it do? I could see Chinese with some rows hitting pretty hard if you can get things just right, but it seems like getting to that point would be tricky.
It's no longer hard since they have their heart activation back, but you do need the subs.
I can do close to ten million before elemental weaknesses with no enhance.
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Moving this up so I can edit it more easily:
Shinji Vs. Puzzle and Dragons
Two Heroes Descended--Clear
Hera Descended--Clear
Zeus Descended--Clear
Goddess Descended--Clear
Thief Descended--Clear
Hera-Is Descended
Satan Descended
Zeus-Dios Descended
Hera-Ur Descended--Clear
Athena Descended--Clear
Takeminakata Descended
Beelzebub Descended--Clear
Izanami Descended
Heracles Descended--Clear
Hera-Beorc Descended--Clear
Hera-Sowilo Descended
Zeus Vulcan Descended--Clear
Thoth & Sopdet Descended
Mephisto Descended
Zeus Mercury Descended
Cauchemar Descended--Clear
Zhao Yun Descended--Clear
Grimoires Descended--Clear
Medjedra Descended
Diagoldos Descended
Sonia Gran Descended
Zeus & Hera Descended
Sphinx Descended--Clear
Aamir Descended
Legelonte Descended
Journey to the West--Clear
Deus ex Machine Descended
Hel Descended
Heimdallr Descended
Yamatsumi Descended
Santa Claus Descended
Hephaestus Descended
Tengu!!!--Clear
Draggie!--Clear
RO Ace Collab--Clear
Gaia Descended--Clear
Sandalphon Descended--Clear
Wadatsumi Descended--Clear
Noah Descended
Zhang Fei!!--Clear
Kanetsugu!--Clear
Guan Yinping!
Dark Knight!
Kaguya-Hime
Zhou Yu!!
Indigo Descended
Surtr Descended
Aegir Descended
Takemikazuchi Descended
Gran Reverse Descended
The hardest dungeon so far in terms of how many tries it took me was Hera-Beoc. Although a lot of that was because I resisted changing up the team very much to deal with Leviathan for too long. I ended up switching to a bind-immune team with Shinji/Gabe/Reine/Alrescha/ANeptune/AI&I eventually and that team cleared it first try. That's probably also what I'll end up using for Medjed.
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Moving this up so I can edit it more easily:
Shinji Vs. Puzzle and Dragons
u forgot to add gran smoky bbq ribasu to the descend list
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u forgot to add gran smoky bbq ribasu to the descend list
Oh yeah, cuz she new.
Pretty sure Shinji can handle her after a fashion once I can inherit Raphael skill onto someone. Not sure who though. Maybe Shinji.
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You basically nailed it, ccool; in my case I basically pray to the seven stars, and otherwise have to clear orbs well enough on my own to get what I need done. Satan is stressful sometimes as a result of this, among other things. Usually I can stall through especially troublesome things if I can't just murder their faces off. Sadly my lacking changers means I lean on my defensjve actives a lot, so bulky status immune light or fire enemies are pretty scary stuff. I might have better options in my box, but a lot of my water stuff isn't really Karin-compliant(see: Hermes, Sumire sort of because of the trollage possibility, etc).
Edit: Wow I feel like an idiot.
*goes into Noah 5x4*
Let's see, I'll put SSG Apollo for fire,SQ and DMeta, now what about light? Ah, Amon will wo-waitaminute.
Amon.
I HAVE AMON.
WHY HAVE I NOT BEEN USING HIM!?
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There was a time when I considered Zhao Yun to be the hardest descend in the game. So I was pretty happy to see Shinji completely wreck him. He's not so bad now that row teams just get way more rows so even low-multiplier blue teams can one-shot him with enough actives.
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That shonen collabs has a lot of new hel subs in there, gin in particular looks amazing with green->dark light->poison, so basically the poison variant of panda's active. I wish she would get more subs that weren't jp only, collab only, or collab rem only. And had better awoken skills, these are all pretty pitiful.
Gin is a farmable though. That's why his awakenings aren't that great.
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Has there been a point yet in JP where Gungho stops giving out jewels for challenge rewards? They've increased their value somewhat by rotating the skillups, but I'm still really tired of jewels.
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Has there been a point yet in JP where Gungho stops giving out jewels for challenge rewards? They've increased their value somewhat by rotating the skillups, but I'm still really tired of jewels.
/me looks at the Yamato Challenge 2 rewards
no
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Last night was a GOOD night.
First i finally maxskilled AA Luci, then i got another confirmation that i really should stop doubting the power of my own teams.....
Remember how i often griped that i couldn't find a good team to clear Scarlet?
Well, last night i had 50 stamina to burn so i decided to try what is rapidly becoming my go-to tactic when dealing with supposedly hard dungeons:
A.Pandora "steamroll mode"
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-04-25-05-42-24_zpsxemlfgmu.png)
Cleared it first try :V
Her tankiness/firepower combo is ridiculous, even at low levels. When i got to the final floor, Panda+Loki+DValk dealt over 30M......
And her reward was the badpy she won for me XD
On a different note, reading Setsu's blog made me realize i've been a moron regarding Seph all this time. While i DID find a good solo team for him, i neglected to think about multiplayer (understandable, since i NEVER co-op'ed until now)
What are the main problems of Seph? SBR (which affect color coverage's choices) and total HP
AND WHAT ARE THE MAIN FEATURES THAT ARE SHARED IN MULTIPLAYER? ::)
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yay 10x is over i can start collecting stones again
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oh
look
another kali-like
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=525
gungho
why
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I am doing my best to hold back my seething rage.
I DO have to give her credit for being a possible "if you rolled the REM a bunch with no LKali to show for it" option, though her stats are beyond abysmal minus the RCV.
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gungho
why
it's almost like it's a fantastic thing for early-game rainbow team players who would like consistency for a low price
she's actually a really good addition all around, even if her stats could honestly be better
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it's almost like it's a fantastic thing for early-game rainbow team players who would like consistency for a low price
...assuming they are unlucky enough to roll everything besides an LKali with the amount of rolls necessary to actually get 100kMP that is. And that's assuming they even sell all their stuff.
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I can't argue, cause i rolled LKali in like, my first GF. :P
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Gin is a farmable though. That's why his awakenings aren't that great.
I guess my point is, if they made more non-collab ones, then they'd be less inhibited in making good upgrades for them. Like the mystic knights and etc.
I like the idea of less premium mp monsters since they might be able to get a better variety of stuff out there. Like mons that don't have to be top tier leads but can be decent subs or something fun to play around with. Of course, they start it off with a kali clone but we.
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Updated my YouTube channel with some new videos.
Semi-budget push-button team for Tengu Mythical-level stats on Yamato Challenge 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jAwORf9PRQ), you only need 1 Rodin and 1 Goemon for this to work. If you don't have Surtr and/or Shiva Dragon, just use Urd as your leader with Ares in Surtr's slot. Tengu's inherited skill is Burst Bomb (regular Kagu). If you don't have ANY Rodins, you would need to have a 2nd Tengu with A.Ra's skill, but this team can still work with 0 Rodins. Goemon is the only essential part of this team to work, and he's farmable.
Memeteam "I'm a whale" run of the new Lightning Contract Dragon biweekly for skilling up Gadius and Phoenix Rider and Nephthys, while also collecting Red Predra (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDYfQ-7HVyk).
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20x mechs are on for NA it's actually pretty good
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I like the idea of less premium mp monsters since they might be able to get a better variety of stuff out there. Like mons that don't have to be top tier leads but can be decent subs or something fun to play around with. Of course, they start it off with a kali clone but we.
Arguably they started with puppets,but they're not that much less premium.
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I'd appreciate some subs that we could buy that are neither bad or great, maybe the fairytale girls ?
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Fairy tale girls->not great. Look at this guy here. (Wait, there are fairy tale girls who aren't Snow White or Red Riding Hood?)
I woukd totally pay some MP for Dragon Swordsmen. I've somehow never pulled any.
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I dunno, they are great, it's just i dunno how many better options are out there, so i can't really rate them. :V
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...assuming they are unlucky enough to roll everything besides an LKali with the amount of rolls necessary to actually get 100kMP that is. And that's assuming they even sell all their stuff.
Fully possible, yes. I've passed that on JP by far already. :v Not to mention predra invasion exists and all.
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I'm rank 547, rolled the REM an innumerable amount of times over two and a half years. Probably amassed 500,000 MP with the stuff that I sold, would easily have more if I didn't desperation purchase a few jewels and TAMADRA.
No sign of Kali from the REM despite having dupes of Byakko, Gabriels, Persephone, Sonias, Alrescha, Godins, Suzaku, Neptune, Kirin...
I'll gladly use economy versions like Gainaut or dump 100,000 MP for it.
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Whale and ye shall receive :V
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I suppose even I qualify, and that's with having probably spent like 50k on stupid stuff like TAMAs etc. Got 100k+ in the bank as I type this; if I was running Sakuya seriously I'd probably be tempted because of how handy it could be.
Imagine how salty someone'd be if they bought that and then rolled the real one like right after, haha.
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Imagine how salty someone'd be if they bought that and then rolled the real one like right after, haha.
Oh yeah, hadn't crossed my mind. I hope then that they wouldn't simply make this cheaper line a 'hey, down on your luck with the rem? Well here's a replacement' thing. Because then they wouldn't see use if you land the thing you were replacing it with.
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Well then, the pact is sealed. Dandi's been hypermaxed. A-Asterisk please?
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*Insert Chirei Comment here below*
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Imagine how salty someone'd be if they bought that and then rolled the real one like right after, haha.
Simply means you have two kalis already now :v, and one coloring another element.
Not really a bad deal.
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Simply means you have two kalis already now :v, and one coloring another element.
Not really a bad deal.
I have a hyper Kali, and I'd be fine with buying Soprano. Soprano let's you have a board changer for each color in Kirin without inheriting anything. It's about time something like Soprano came out tbh. Running rainbow in a pita as it is.
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For those that don`t know.
Thursday will have 3x Skillup, so it might be a good idea to hold on to that Skill Fodder for a little more.
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Not sure if it matters at all, but
| (http://i.imgur.com/UDOMdpl.png?1) | (http://i.imgur.com/rFgYaxM.jpg?1) |
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/725176579186417664
ya sure dude.
give us a x156.25 combo lead with 2606 ATK
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/725176579186417664
ya sure dude.
give us a x156.25 combo lead with 2606 ATK
I saw the artwork and i thought "Rinnosuke is trying his hand as Armpit Miko?????"
Btw, my A.Panda is officially hypermaxed. Asterisk get ;) (too lazy to post a screenshot right now, if you don't trust me check ingame :V)
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How high can Evil Dog (Fenrir) go anyways ?
Cause i was doing some Denebola shenanigans here and it hit me:
6 * 6 * 2.25 * 3(God-Killer) = 243x atk. :V
This is with 6-link jammers and 1 fire TPA match, not counting the natural combo multiplier.
I guess Jammer Meta will Jammer Meta.
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Fenrir can get x10 (x100 for dual) for matching nine connected jammers. Impractical in most cases but the option is there.
In JP, he gets x2.5 (x6.25) for attacking with five colors.
Thus, the potential for damage is x25 (x625). Feel free to add in God Killer against whatever you're fighting like Kali in Arena or something.
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When is jp announcing that last round of buffs and evos?
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Wow, so Evil Dog is just a Nuke in the form of a wolf. Mecha-bastet can`t hit that, although she`s easier to use.
Doge and Cat too stronk. :derp:
Edit: Grats Hikari ! That`s the first step in Descend clearing !
And Heads up: Thursday Event will also give out Free Tamadras and 10x +eggs chance for Descends
At Friday there will be a Maintenance too !
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When is jp announcing that last round of buffs and evos?
What are we expecting from that? Will there be pantheon uvos? I'm waiting warmly for constellations, but are Sengoku due first? I forget.
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What are we expecting from that? Will there be pantheon uvos? I'm waiting warmly for constellations, but are Sengoku due first? I forget.
As a closet Sarasvati fan, I'm secretly hoping something good comes her way without screwing up how cute her current evo looks. I can't tell if she needs one or not since I haven't actually fielded her yet, but seeing as there exist Arena clears of her, I'm not too expectant.
Or did we hear something about what to expect? And also which sengoku are you talking about? People can't seem to decide whether it's referring to the ninjas or the samurais.
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I saw the artwork and i thought "Rinnosuke is trying his hand as Armpit Miko?????"
Btw, my A.Panda is officially hypermaxed. Asterisk get ;) (too lazy to post a screenshot right now, if you don't trust me check ingame :V)
I thought of white-haired Bayonetta first.
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I thought of white-haired Bayonetta first.
Genderbent Meiko from Prison School kappa
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Or did we hear something about what to expect? And also which sengoku are you talking about? People can't seem to decide whether it's referring to the ninjas or the samurais.
We haven't heard clues as far as I know, but I don't follow PAD out of this thread really so I could have easily overlooked it. I suppose we could draw inferences from patterns and precedent too.
As far as I've been aware Sengoku refers to the samurai.
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Highlights of today's Descends
Guan Yinping has that one red ninja that makes jammers. That's aight.
Zhao Yu's waifu basically killed herself again.
Osiris is the sweetest guy ever. Alternates between giving me a row of jammers and columns of hearts? New husband confirmed.
(http://imgur.com/cXDQ8sw.jpg)
Medjedra really doesn't know who he's putting in the leader slot sometimes. Going from the "Jammer + rainbow lead" to "Rainbow + Jammer lead" like no big deal just keep doing what you were doing.
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As far as I've been aware Sengoku refers to the samurai.
Twas was my impression as well, and so others too seem to use it for the samurai. On the other hand, pad wiki and pdz refer to the ninjas as sengoku and the samurai as the samurai gods :V
e: I'm not sure whether to be underwhelmed and confused by the descended boss 10x mp sell price or be really excited. And it all comes down to, will this apply towards the ones that sell for 100mp (zaerog, scarlet, nordis, among others)? The facebook page only casually mentions that it will apply to a few 'select' bosses. You know, being able to farm drops that sell for 1000mp apiece sounds too good to be true. I'm going to be skeptical and realistic about this.
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Just finished hypermaxing my Awoken Neptune and realized that I have now hypermaxed every single non-duplicate blue pantheon god I've ever pulled. That's more a result of how ridiculously few blue pantheon gods I have than anything though. Srsly Gungho, give blue cards.
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So just as a reminder, the next set of Challenge Dungeons until 5/09 are Multiplayer Only for NA.
If anyone needs some clearing out for lower levels, or happens to find someone in here with compatiable strats, use the link in my signature to get onto the PAD channel to collaborate. This is going to be one nasty ride.
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10x descends AND 10x MP for descend bosses? Sign me the fuck up.
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So just as a reminder, the next set of Challenge Dungeons until 5/09 are Multiplayer Only for NA.
If anyone needs some clearing out for lower levels, or happens to find someone in here with compatiable strats, use the link in my signature to get onto the PAD channel to collaborate. This is going to be one nasty ride.
I notice that you said "for NA". Does that mean that isn't like that for other regions?
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Probably just means "because NA are just getting these new ones".
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So what's to be done with 10x boss sales? They seem pretty good, but is it economical to sell a boss with a +egg? And aside from buying the relatively expensive Descend Carnival from coin dungeons is there a worthwhile way of taking advantage of this?
Edit: Oh god I just noticed there are PAD orbs permanently burned into my phone screen. They're only visible against white backgrounds, but they're there.
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You're in too deep.
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MAN why is there a HP latent in my legendary skyway. Just wasted 99 stamina feels bad
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I notice that you said "for NA". Does that mean that isn't like that for other regions?
EU is only on Challenge 20 still I believe, and I am unsure about KR.
EDIT: If anyone is looking for people who run more mainstream things to tackle the dungeons with, y'all can try the reddit Discord channel here (https://discordapp.com/channels/89391974502649856/129370717476093952). I got 1-4 done pretty quickly there this morning, at least.
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Zaerogoo sells for 50 MP now... Obviously, 500 MP on 10x selling prices.
You can make a gold REM sell for just ten Zaerogs now. How nice.
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I'm planning on using my crappy Shiva and Urd teams to clear as much as possible with my roommate and neighbor (the reeeeeeally incompetent, 3-combo-average, no-prongs-ever one). Going to be interesting to see how that goes. :V
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Zaerogoo sells for 50 MP now... Obviously, 500 MP on 10x selling prices.
nah, they said for 'select' descended bosses only. He only sells for 100mp. That would be too good to be true.
Also everyone was either asleep or busy last night, I still need to do the challenge dungeons, anyone up to it in an hour? I have class now.
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nah, they said for 'select' descended bosses only. He only sells for 100mp. That would be too good to be true.
Also everyone was either asleep or busy last night, I still need to do the challenge dungeons, anyone up to it in an hour? I have class now.
Oh, no, I mean in the latest JP update. They updated the selling prices of descend bosses depending on their subjective "difficulty". So, Zaerogoo will sell for 50 while Hera sells for 15, for example.
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Ah, oops. That moment when zaerogoo is considered an easy farmable :v
Also anyone? Anytime works really
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Maybe, I think I can run in about two hours from now?
Your two leads in front are Awoken Kirin and Pandora, neither of which are things I am super comfortable with. Or own. Pandora continues to elude me.
Maybe you can find something in here that we're compatible with. (https://www.padherder.com/user/TAMATAMA/monsters/#31,0,31,8191,268435455,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0)
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My kirining is very rusty right now, so probably panda. With so many actives we should be able to burst every floor. Also I'm only thinking like the first 5 right now, just to get that stone. We can think about the latter half if it goes well.
I'll look through, I don't have much else though
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Wait, it's the first five now that're Normal?
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Wait, it's the first five now that're Normal?
no, still got a stone for 1-3
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Oh ok, just making sure. I mean Id hope Id be able to beat even 1-5 on my phone, but still. Never know what those weirdoes at GH will come up with.
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Ugh, took too long to post, I'll post it down here in case you miss it.
ok, I looked through. You have quite a few developed cards, while I have like close to none. The first 5 should be easy enough for anything to handle, but this is what I've come up with.
Basically, my 'viable' leads list comes down to: Kirin, panda, bmeta or valks, Kushi, ayomi, Izanami, Akechi. Also technically I have a fenrir that I just rolled that's underleveled. So the possible pairups look like this:
Roah/AA Luci x Panda, viable for earlier levels for the devil bonus
Bastet x Kushi, combo multiplier
Ammy/ZL/Elia/Kanna/purin x valks or bmeta, more or less unconditional multiplier
Yomidra/Castor x Akechi/aYomi, the match exactly 5 dark orbs with one enhanced leads
Fenrir x Fenrir, though I'll have to primarily play support
Isis/Sakuya x Kirin, rainbows
watchoo think?
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I'M FREEEEE
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Roah/AA Luci x Panda, viable for earlier levels for the devil bonus
Lucy X Pandora sounds legit. My Devil rows is a bit lack luster but I can turn one of my D/G Persephones back into a Devil if it comes down to it.
Bastet x Kushi, combo multiplier
Probably the easiest to work with. Between things like Susano, Liu Bei, Ceres and Kaede, I have plenty of utility subs.
Ammy/ZL/Elia/Kanna/purin x valks or bmeta, more or less unconditional multiplier
Perhaps, even my Supergirl could be used here? 4.5x attack and 1.5x RCV for healers and Physical is nothing to scoff at.
Yomidra/Castor x Akechi/aYomi, the match exactly 5 dark orbs with one enhanced leads
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THE DAY I CAN LEAD WITH CASTOR. Pairing with AYomi should give firepower, and Co-op + Castor's bulk should be great for our durability.
Alternatively, I could lead with Hamal if we're having trouble recovering HP, since she has that odd "Heart TPA" leader skill and higher offense
Fenrir x Fenrir, though I'll have to primarily play support
tbh the no-dupe restriction means I can't use my second Fenrir as a sub, so that'll kill the jammer momentum. I'd love to co-op Fenrir sometime, but it probably won't work here.
Isis/Sakuya x Kirin, rainbows
Gainaut X Kirin for a free DKali board and that sweet Co-op Boost Awoken skill ;)
nevermind that Gainaut comment, though he's still a fabulous sub for Kirin
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Ah, didn't see supergirl for some reason. I find unconditional leads really boring to play though. So we can try out the Castor Ayomi then, see how that works. After my class coming this next hour.
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I wouldn't worry too much about being bored. Multiplayer drama tends to make things interesting. Maybe less so when you're not in the same room. You guys should Skype while you play. :D
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Oh yea, i also need someone to do those myself, it'll be quite hard to do higher ones since i don't have much developed, plus the "fear of fucking up everything and being a burden" would kick in right on.
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Oh yea, i also need someone to do those myself, it'll be quite hard to do higher ones since i don't have much developed, plus the "fear of fucking up everything and being a burden" would kick in right on.
I can go tango with you if you can't find someone else, I'm really chill, don't worry about screwing up, we'll figure something out.
I'm out of class, I'll be in the chat if we're planning to do it within the next 3 hours or so.
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I'm always up for multiplayer though I will only run like saria and amaterasu. Sakuya is to much a pain in the butt
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So fpurin and I just did lvls 5 and 6, castor x yomi. Who knew coop could be fun if you actually had, you know, others, to play it with.
Meaning I still need to do lvls 1-4 since he's taking off to class in a bit. If you're free, go to the chat and holler at me.
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Well, i'm not really free right now to use PC's IRC, is there a phone version of it ?
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There are apps available, but it won't be helpful since you can't exit pad at all when in coop mode.
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Orb enhance spam is legit. Thanks to Mea and Chirei for good times.
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Hmmm.... then maybe tomorrow ? It's still thursday, so no PC for me sadly.
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I mapped out plan for challenge lvl 10 for dual apandas that I need someone to help fill in
mons:
APanda APanda (fl5)
Orochi (fl5) (or echidna)
Akechi+Haku (fl4)
Akechi+Haku (fl3) (or any other bursting equivalent)
Diza (fl2) skill must be up for use on fl2!
poison->dark (fl2) (I have an anubis, but anything works)
someone who can make many dark orbs (fl1)
The basic plan is to kill everything in one hit, except for vishnu in two hits
These calculations were done with my normal dark team, so once I can collaborate with how mons are going to be distributed in the party, I can figure out the new min combos and max combos.
fl1 (8orb row + 3orb dark) (11 dark) + 2 extra
fl2 poison->dark 30 orbs, this one shots
USE DIZA SHIELD
fl3 (8orb row + 6orb row) (2 dark rows, 14 dark orbs) + 0 extra necessary
must have hp > 38k
but heal up for fl4's preemptive
fl4 (8orb row + 6 orb row) (2 dark rows, 14 dark orbs) + 3 extra
or (8orb row + 6 orb row + 3 orb) (2 dark rows, 17 dark orbs) + 1 extra
13k preempt, 8k with Diza up
fl5
SAFE COMBOS: (KEEP UP TO OR UNDER):
(Note, the flex is the 'extra's bit)
(use the # of dark orbs on left to figure out how many flex combos you can make to keep under 1mil damage)
(flex means: any color combo not dark!)
(To be safe, try to stay at least 1 flex combo under the number listed under extra)
(These are calculated without enhanced orbs, take off 2~4 flex combos with enhanced orbs)
for...
1 6orb dark row: + 29 extra
1 6orb dark row: 1 3orb dark + 16 extra
1 6orb dark row: 2 3orb dark + 9 extra
1 6orb dark row: 1 4orb dark + 12 extra
1 6orb dark row: 1 4orb dark + 1 3orb dark + 8 extra
2 6orb dark row: + 5 extra !!! AVOID, dark skyfall danger
2 6orb dark row: 1 3orb dark + 2 extra !!! AVOID
2 6orb dark row: 1 4orb dark + 1 extra !!! AVOID
(Better to use above 6orb rows instead, unless very much lacking in dark orbs)
(because you still want to do damage)
1 8orb dark row: + 10 extra
1 8orb dark row: 1 3orb dark + 5 extra
1 8orb dark row: 2 3orb dark + 1 extra !!! AVOID
1 8orb dark row: 1 4orb dark + 3 extra ~~~ danger
1 8orb dark row: 1 4orb dark + 1 3orb dark + 1 extra !!! AVOID
2 turn ko
use delay, 2 orb converters, probably the 2 lead pandas
e: correction, must have hp>42k since fl2's beelzubub has a preempt that we won't be healing from as well.
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I can co-op and provide an APanda, but I'm slightly unclear from that post what you would need from me. I've got a hypermax Awoken Orochi, two skillmax black Izanamis or black Metatron, and the contents of my Pandora team (being hypermax APanda, Super Panda, Hanzo, Zuoh, and Loki) all maxed. I don't really have that much more black row stuff ready. Does that help?
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Didn't clarify what I had oops. If you have hypermax orochis and dizas, that means we won't need my weaker unmaxed ones. Whichever of either her or meta you like more we can use. Preferably the one with no dark orb enhance awakenings since that can complicate calculations.
So besides the delay and shield, if you have a way of bursting on floor 3 or 4, that would be perfect. I'm guessing zuoh x super panda? I forget if zuoh had god or dragon killer, since that may complicate things.
Giving you both the utilities might affect your damage output so I might take one of them. Probably the orochi if it seems he may break 2mil with an unlucky tpa skyfall.
So it seems as of right now, apanda super panda, zuoh, shield and orochi. Can you let me know their pluses an and latent eggs?
Some switcheroos between us may be necessary here and there.
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Awoken Pandora: +297, rainbow resists, skillmax
Cruel Bleak Night Goddess Pandora: No +, one RCV latent, skillmax
One Eyed Black Demon Beast Zuoh: HP +1, five HP latents, skill level two (can be skilled up further with Badpy if necessary). Does have Dragon Killer.
Pacifying Yomi Goddess Izanami: HP +1, no latents, skillmax
Arbiter of Judgement Metatron: No +, no latents, skillmax
Awoken Viper Orochi: +297, five HP latents, skillmax
You tell me what to bring, and let me know if you need stats from anything else. My PADHerder should be very roughly correct regarding what I have at least, if not exactly what state everything is currently in.
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ccool, do you think it would be possible for us to take down Lv10 with Karin/Nepdra?
With just her reduction, DQ Hera's preemptive does a little over 40000, which we can easily survive at full health. Though I think I'd need your nepdra up now if possible so I can damage test.
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Do you still have your Satsuki? (or Castor)
e: @ccoolaid: I've attached a pdf outline of the conquest strategy, take a look at it and tell me what you think
I ended up going with your Orochi instead of mine since I didn't realize I only had the NY tengu, so I can't evolve to awoken. Whoops.
The only somewhat tricky part is Vishnu, as expected. Rest is smooth sailing, more or less, with a very low chance of massive rng trolling if either of us ends up with only 5 off colors when bursting. Skill boosts are shared so we should have everything up to go, we'll have 16~17.
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(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0kWb.jpg)
Finally ! The Angelit gave me more work than both Hera-Sowilo and Sandalphon, and just rolled it in Evo PEM.
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SeemsGood
I also pulled a Sylvie but no one cares about her
Literally only missing 1 GFE now
CAN I FINALLY GET 100% GFE COLLECTION?!
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/me sees he is nobody, goes into a corner
(Kidding. Also congrats on pulling Scheat, that lovable TPA monstrosity)
(Also congrats Raf on finally acquiring AVenus. She's potentially pretty darn handy.)
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ccool, do you think it would be possible for us to take down Lv10 with Karin/Nepdra?
With just her reduction, DQ Hera's preemptive does a little over 40000, which we can easily survive at full health. Though I think I'd need your nepdra up now if possible so I can damage test.
Yeah sure, probably. Seems the actual burst would be sketchy since my current orbchanges aren't that Karin'friendly, but if you can figure it out I'd be happy to try. He's up now.
Do you still have your Satsuki? (or Castor)
e: @ccoolaid: I've attached a pdf outline of the conquest strategy, take a look at it and tell me what you think
I ended up going with your Orochi instead of mine since I didn't realize I only had the NY tengu, so I can't evolve to awoken. Whoops.
The only somewhat tricky part is Vishnu, as expected. Rest is smooth sailing, more or less, with a very low chance of massive rng trolling if either of us ends up with only 5 off colors when bursting. Skill boosts are shared so we should have everything up to go, we'll have 16~17.
I do have Satsuki and Castor. Satsuki is more or less ready to go, Castor could probably be maxed out as necessary but currently isn't evolved. I'll look at the plan in a bit.
Just FYI for anyone looking to team up, I'm goibg back to sleep for another half hour or so as of right now, then I'll be at work until ~5-6 PM EST. Then I'llbe more or less available after that.
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(http://i.imgur.com/jPS0kWb.jpg)
Guess the evo PEM has been kind today, it gave me the third fire jewel I needed!
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Mea: It's probably my phone's fault, but that PDF is illegible. Hopefully it will be readable on an actual computer later.
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Ehh~? weird.
Try these jpegs then
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Looks better. I think I understand.
Does Satsuki need to be skillmax? Or Zuoh? They're currently skill level three and two respectively, but I have Badpiis.
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Nah, both of them are well below the amount of skill boosts we share. We can check in endless corridor before entering to double check just in case though.
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(Also congrats Raf on finally acquiring AVenus. She's potentially pretty darn handy.)
Well, this is my first time trying out a CtW sort of AS, the new AS will help lots though ! She'll definitely have a spot, also she just cleared Starlight Path (one with Zeus) for me with a NY Waifuterasu as helper.
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Yeah sure, probably. Seems the actual burst would be sketchy since my current orbchanges aren't that Karin'friendly, but if you can figure it out I'd be happy to try. He's up now.
Gabe and Reine are pretty friendly. I know we'll want at least them and Orochi for Vishnu, I'm not sure who you want to use for the last sub, though. I guess your choice between Snow White or Alrescha.
Is there some form of direct communication we could use when we try this? Would probably make this a lot easier for me to lay out the strat.
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Yeah sure. I don't have anything installed right now but I can get Skype or whatever you want set up I'm sure.
I forgot what colors Karin is. I was thinking she was white/blue/black.
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Yeah sure. I don't have anything installed right now but I can get Skype or whatever you want set up I'm sure.
I forgot what colors Karin is. I was thinking she was white/blue/black.
She activates once more matching 3 of Water/Wood/Dark/Hearts, which means Gabe is compatiable again. Just don't use a heartbreaker directly after Gabe and you'll be good.
The link in my sig just has a web client to the general pad channel which needs no installation, just type in your name and go. But if you don't like web clients you can just DL a regular IRC client and connect that way.
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Kay, I'll get that set up later. I'm at work now. Don't know how late I'm going to stay exactly, but probably ~5:30 EST and I may make a few stops on the way home. I ll let you know when I get home and get all my stuff set up.
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So i'm kinda stuck between focus feeding Snow White, Reine or Nut regarding my Water Team, i also need to get either a Orb Enhance (Aka Ars Paulina) or another utility like a shield or so (DMeta seems like the best choice, plus enables Skuld/Karin option.)
Thoughts ?
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Kay, I'll get that set up later. I'm at work now. Don't know how late I'm going to stay exactly, but probably ~5:30 EST and I may make a few stops on the way home. I ll let you know when I get home and get all my stuff set up.
That's fine, I've got a bunch of stuff to do myself and probably need to stone 20x Mechdragons to egg up Andromeda before we try this. Want to be as safe as possible.
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That's fine, I've got a bunch of stuff to do myself and probably need to stone 20x Mechdragons to egg up Andromeda before we try this. Want to be as safe as possible.
Are you talking about the mechdragon's fortress technicals? Those are more bountiful than descends? I thought drop rates were normal even if the plus rate is at 20x.
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Are you talking about the mechdragon's fortress technicals? Those are more bountiful than descends? I thought drop rates were normal even if the plus rate is at 20x.
They are, and I believe on average it's just a bit short of say, Kanetsugu, but pretty easy to farm and a technical possibility of getting 10 plus per run (I've gotten 9 before.)
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So i'm kinda stuck between focus feeding Snow White, Reine or Nut regarding my Water Team, i also need to get either a Orb Enhance (Aka Ars Paulina) or another utility like a shield or so (DMeta seems like the best choice, plus enables Skuld/Karin option.)
Thoughts ?
I guess I'd probably prioritize Reine, though all things considered order shouldn't matter that much.
Midgard is probably a decent bet for a shield since I think Skuld really wants HP. Blue has very poor shield options unfortunately, but the golems aren't terrible.
Paulina is unfortunately not great, and she arguably doesn't fit Skuld that well. Skuld needs HP so being physical is nice, but she has none of the stat that Skuld gives a huge multiplier for. Might work better hypermax, but Christmas Paulina would probably still be better if you happen to have her. I use Christmas Paulina occasionally to make my blue teams into rainbow teams,she's good.
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Well, this is my first time trying out a CtW sort of AS, the new AS will help lots though ! She'll definitely have a spot, also she just cleared Starlight Path (one with Zeus) for me with a NY Waifuterasu as helper.
Starlight Sanctuary you mean? Since you mentioned Zeus I assume so. (Starlight Path is Groove Coaster collab and MUCH easier)
Was that your first clear of that?
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I will advise against relying too much on AVenus' CTW skill. Not only is hers extremely short and inefficient, but later on, you'll likely have access to things with a bunch of time-extend awakenings and you'll be getting more than 6 seconds of matching time, which is far better.
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Yea, Sanctuary, and yes, first clear, cause he hits hards and is tanky AF, so A. Drake/Waifuterasu or Thoria Proto didn't do well.
And although it isn't very good, i don't have much in finger department either, only LKali has one and Wukong demands more Angelits, i'm eagerly waiting for the new AS patch.
Also, i'm gonna take part in a Rally, so no PC for me.
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ILSIX, CAN YOU FEEL IT?
CAN - YOU - FEEL - IT??!?!?!?!?!?
That's the sensation of your glacial ass being finally stomped into the ground in challenge mode!!!
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-04-29-17-46-57_zpsqunwtlpj.png) (http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-04-29-17-48-17_zpsqdb50tbk.png)
God that felt good..... so much stamina wasted on this bastard
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(http://i.imgur.com/rLotehi.png)
She's converting everybody. It's too late to turn back now.
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(http://i.imgur.com/rLotehi.png)
She's converting everybody. It's too late to turn back now.
i think you spilled some oil on your phone screen
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Alright Chirei, I'm home. Just gotta get some eating food and throw all of my roommate's literal trash that he has heaped on the dining room table somewhere so I can sit closer to the router to minimize connection troubles. Are you ready-ish?
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Alright Chirei, I'm home. Just gotta get some eating food and throw all of my roommate's literal trash that he has heaped on the dining room table somewhere so I can sit closer to the router to minimize connection troubles. Are you ready-ish?
I'm making food myself, but you should probably just pop in so I can explain things. I won't actually have the stamina to try for a while though.
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(http://i.imgur.com/rLotehi.png)
She's converting everybody. It's too late to turn back now.
I'm on that list ?!? I feel honored ! But why is Skuld appearing twice ?
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I'm on that list ?!? I feel honored ! But why is Skuld appearing twice ?
The two slots you display to non-BFs are your first slot and your currently selected team. That means you have her in the first slot and you also have that slot selected. To maximize coverage try to make sure you have a team other than your first one selected whenever you're not in-dungeon.
Pretty sure that's how that works anyway.
Edit: And for best friends the same principle is true, but they get to see your second slot as well. So for maximum maximum coverage also try not to idle on that one.
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itt i get carried by ccool through lv10
(http://i.imgur.com/xr5dIv8.png) (http://i.imgur.com/cDwAMZ5.png) (http://i.imgur.com/S4MGPxy.png)
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Husbando didn't deal the killing blow, but at least he was there to see it.
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Well I killed Fagan. And now Arena 2 is watching me, judging me forever until I go in :ohdear:
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Wait what ?!?! Day 2 has Japanese Gods too ?!?
Is Waifuterasu dream closer than i think ? Will i really change my nick like Fpurin ?
5 rolls...
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Five rolls now, rest tomorrow.
-LMeta
-Goetia
-Dupe Shiva
-GRonia
-Delgado
Figures that the only featured god would be a dupe. Well at least it's not a dupe Durga!
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I got:
Zuoh's good, or so I hear, but I'm not sure about Sarasvati. She seems like a good sub, at least.
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Zuoh: possible sub for people running dark row teams like Pandora. Hard to lead with without lots of support.
Sarasvati: potentially powerful water sub, but in desperate need of a form with more Awakenings.
Did two rolls for today just because, saving my other stones for a better Fest.
>Dupe Sarasvatim speaking of her
>Vishnuuu
I am ok with this result.
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Rolled 3. All junk.
Accidentally rolled another. Also junk.
Why do I even bother?
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Some more notable pulls:
-Second Alnair
-Susano
-TYPHON
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Some more notable pulls:
-Second Alnair
-Susano
-TYPHON
May i borrow your luck ?
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One pull just cuz.
-Green Wee Jas
Bleh. Not the worst I guess. Not a dupe.
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I realized just now, I think I have the potential for some kinda pretty terrifying TPA team with Vishnu in tow. Maybe...
Verd/Kaede/Vish/AFreyja/CuChu/(whatever friend lead suits me at the time)? Maybe swap Freyja out of my side and put in something else like Kushi or Asgard for utility and lead with a friend's AFreyja, etc?
I still really want another Artemis though so I can make an Awoken one since most of those TPA cards would play well with her. I'm just not willing to give up Moon Flower Blossom for it so I need a spare.
Lead could be swapped to Vishnu himself or Kaede if I was of a mind to as well perhaps.
EDIT: rolled once more because I felt like it, got Alnair. Not bad!
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Figured I'd finally post here since I've gotten relatively late mid game (up to Vesta Cave and Divine Queen's Sleepless Castle). Got a Verdandi team going, she's not hypermaxed but otherwise fully awoken (no latent awakenings because I'm not made of monster points and I'm non-IPA). Other than Verdandi, pulls have been all over the place for me, so I don't really have much of a good team setup other than just trying to find good subs (I'm still running around with a Flower Chimera, a High Wood Ninja, and a Wood Samurai Ogre, but fortunately I've got Omega Wood Skydragon, Horai and Guan Yinping on the way).
Not sure what else to say but hi, then. :V
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Is there anything you need/want help with? If you make yourself a PADHerder you can catalog your monsters so you can easily link your list of em to people. (You can use apps like PADListener to gather and push the info so you don't have to do it manually, btw)
Also, consider joining us on the IRC at #puzzleandlibrarians on the MotK servers! PAD's much more fun with friends, after all~!
As for latents, keep an eye out tomorrow for PreDRA Infestation, where you can try and collect some without needing MP.
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Just as Jq said, it would help a lot to make a PADHerder with PADListener to list your monsters, you might have a neat hidden jewel in there in the form of a team or future team.
We all have some knowledge to help with teams, i'm one of the minor ones but i can help too !
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Hey ccool, just letting you know that I'll have to be asleep earlier than usual tonight, so whenever you get back, I'll probably be asleep 5 hours after this post when you want to take down c8/c9.
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Kay. I am home, but I've got people over. I'll come find you when they take off, or if it starts to get too late we can just do it some other time.
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Oh yea, almost slipped my mind, commander, what blue leads do you have besides NepDra and Gabrielbando ? I'm needing some more blue options on my part.
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Not many because the game persistently refuses to give me any blue cards ever. Alrescha, Awoken Orochi, Shinji, Awoken Neptune, and sort of Sumire but not really. I don't really have developed teams for any of them either.
I've also got APanda, Awoken Ra, Verdani, Kalloween I guess, and neverused leads like AMeims, AVenus, and AShiva.
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Been lurking on this thread (and the forum in general) for a while but I figured I should make an account on here to join in on the fun ( ･ω･)
Let's see....I've played on the NA server for almost 2 years (I think). I run a Verdani team (Verdani being hypermaxed and full latent), though sometimes I'll run with other leaders for fun. Or some cases, what works better than my green team which tends to be my Rodin team. So I guess that'd be my secondary (?). I do have other ones I can use as leads but I either suck at making long combos or REM's killing me c: Right now, I'm farming +eggs since I got most of the descended dungeons done, though I haven't figured out who to hypermax (got 2 +297 fodders on me atm).
I also got a JP account (200+ days) so I'm doing double-duty with PAD. It's quite fun I'd say, especially considering JP gets stuff NA doesn't. Anyways, looking forward to talking with you guys on here and other parts of the forum. I'll update my PADherder whenever I can and then link it so you guys can see what I have.
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As I plugged above, don't forget the PAD chat channel we have if you want live-action convos with us. Good way to coordinate Multiplayer shenanigans, too!
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I'll keep that in mind c:
Whoops, forgot to post my ID: 337.315.379
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the wild ride is over
(http://i.imgur.com/zCBfg2s.png)(http://i.imgur.com/OjPSLq0.png)
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Forgot to cap nine, but here's my side of eight. It was honestly still kind of rough, especially with that bizarre team, but it somehow worked out.
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Okay, it's not Japanese 1..... but Kushi would be nice for Tricolors.. let's yolo !
*Gamble Mage*
..... 3k MP at least.... fuck it, let's get something decent.
*Zuoh*
Huh... you're cool and all, but you are Dark and has no ulility in the AS, so you won't be used sadly.... at least it's a GFE.
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ccool, is there any chance I could friend you? I've been a little stuck lately since my Andromeda team is lacking in regards to skill boosts and stalling capacity, and I've been told that NepDra pairs really nicely with Andromeda. (I also haven't used this best friend selection yet, so if that's worth anything uhh)
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for the Godfest which finally hit a green Gala, rolled Hermes which apparently fully optimises the Andro team, as well as Astaroth, Liu Bei and a third Verdandi - still awaiting the day green teams become hip and cool after sixty years of not being Good Enough
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ccool, is there any chance I could friend you? I've been a little stuck lately since my Andromeda team is lacking in regards to skill boosts and stalling capacity, and I've been told that NepDra pairs really nicely with Andromeda. (I also haven't used this best friend selection yet, so if that's worth anything uhh)
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for the Godfest which finally hit a green Gala, rolled Hermes which apparently fully optimises the Andro team, as well as Astaroth, Liu Bei and a third Verdandi - still awaiting the day green teams become hip and cool after sixty years of not being Good Enough
Yeah sure. Just send a request and let me know your inge name if different.
Wish I had that Hermeeeees...
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Something to get my spirits high.
(http://i.imgur.com/Fl3nZUu.jpg)
It seems i don't suck as much as i thought, thanks A. Venus !
Wish I had that Hermeeeees...
If you had a Amaterasu and trading was allowed, i'd gladly give you mine, your husbando needs a friend and i want my waifu. :V
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Well no REM for me because yay non-IPA (I rolled yesterday and got Osiris so that kinda flew in the face of the godfest, if not the gala). In any case, spent this morning making a PADHerder, if anyone cares to give it a look.
So much going into team "I'm Verdandi and I'm awesome". (https://www.padherder.com/user/Validon98/monsters/#31,0,31,8191,268435455,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0)
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Okay, let me see what i can aid you with...
First, that Snow White is an great sub for your water team, an unbindable bind healer with heartmaker AS AND more bind clear, also with really solid stats for a 4-stars, til this day i wonder when will GungTroll make their UEvos.
Second, your should pay more attention to that Naga too, Echidna is a great card for midgame and even late-ish game due to her Active, she's the only farmable delay that i can remember.
Third, if you feel like you can do it, try farming for a Armadel, she's is an ok sub for Verdandi, having an Synergising and reliable AS, same att. and subatt. , and 4 OEs,which aren't much but will still help.
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I'm definitely not forgetting that Naga, I am well aware of the power of Menace, it's just a long road I've yet to take to do said evolving. But it'll definitely happen. I'm also probably not going to try for Armadel yet because Descendeds are out of my depth right now until team Verdandi finally gets its long awaited replacement subs I've been working on (I mean I had to do Guan Yinping's descended but it had a Master difficulty and I ended up using three magic stones to beat it regardless, so that's no real indicator of whether or not I should be able to beat a descended, at least not yet, I'll work on it).
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Yeah.... try not to use continues, unless you're on REALLY endgame content, always keep in mind every time you stone it's 5 box slots flying away, Chirei is also Non-IAP and yet he is quite literally an Magic Stones bank due to his effort and has a considerable amount of REMs.
The only real known whale here in MotK is Trance, who also acts as our JP contact and translator. :V
Also, check my PADHerder, a tad out of date but might have some useful helpers to you.
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Huh. 3 thread newcomers in less than 24 hours.
Anyways, I rolled again and got a Susano, is that any good? He seems to be solely Tank, Tank, and more Tank. Even his Awoken Form is just Tank, Tank, and have a 3x.
The only real known whale here in MotK is Trance, who also acts as our main JP contact and translator. :V
FTFY. On IRC we have some more JP players who dump info here and there.
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Goddamn, spent my last thirty stamina during PreDras on my Experience Boost Tama and it left me 7k experience short of a rank. Just enough that I can't get enough stamina to make it up before the dungeon ends. Oh well, I just got duplicates upon duplicates of the same few resists anyway.
If you had a Amaterasu and trading was allowed, i'd gladly give you mine, your husbando needs a friend and i want my waifu. :V
Well I don't, so you're out of luck a few times over.
Second, your should pay more attention to that Naga too, Echidna is a great card for midgame and even late-ish game due to her Active, she's the only farmable delay that i can remember.
There are at least a couple more (Zeus Vulcan, Wadatsumi, and Zhang Fei come to mind, as well as skillup fodder like Twinton) but none of them are really that great.
Anyways, I rolled again and got a Susano, is that any good? He seems to be solely Tank, Tank, and more Tank. Even his Awoken Form is just Tank, Tank, and have a 3x.
Yes, he is great. Any green team would probably at least consider using him, and he's a great rainbow sub as well. He probably even has reasonably solid lead potential.
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Echidna is kind of the quintessential delay card. There are other delays that are far better than she is in general, but she's the best at what she does at 3 turns delay for 10CD. Sun Quan possibly as well, for 2 turns delay and 2x for healers for 2 turns. Orochi's 4/5 turn delays are too slow and you'll rarely need that much delay anyway.
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Echidna is kind of the quintessential delay card. There are other delays that are far better than she is in general, but she's the best at what she does at 3 turns delay for 10CD. Sun Quan possibly as well, for 2 turns delay and 2x for healers for 2 turns. Orochi's 4/5 turn delays are too slow and you'll rarely need that much delay anyway.
I pulled Christmas Lilith way back and she's been very nice, although I haven't found a true use for her yet since my box doesn't have much in the way of healers
ccool I've sent a request (I should be Emelia K. in-game)
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If we're getting into REM cards then yeah things open up a little, although still not a ton. I love Sun Quan, and I think Awoken Orochi is totally worth it despite the long cooldown. He's got great stats and awakenings obviously, and the four turns may not be necessary very often but they're crucial for shit like fuuuucking Vishnuuu and if you don't need all four turns you can just stall on a couple to recharge your skills and clear the board. Fifteen is a long time, but it's totally worth it in my opinion. Honorable mention to Okuninushi for being a respectable boost and a delay, even if both are small. Two utility effects in one card is always a good deal.
ccool I've sent a request (I should be Emelia K. in-game)
Yeah I accepted it.
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Sacchi, put that Golden glow on my dear Skuld please ? I finally got my Wood Resist and she's now Full Latent slots.
Also i have a HP and RCV latents to use somewhere...
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Sacchi, put that Golden glow on my dear Skuld please ? I finally got my Wood Resist and she's now Full Latent slots.
Also i have a HP and RCV latents to use somewhere...
No glow til 297, dude. Close though!
Or did you hyper her while I wasnt looking?
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Thing about Echidna is, you can't ignore how awful her HP is. 1200 is very, uh
Underwhelming, to say the least. But maybe my HP-latent Awoken Orochi is spoiling me.
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Thing about Echidna is, you can't ignore how awful her HP is. 1200 is very, uh
Underwhelming, to say the least. But maybe my HP-latent Awoken Orochi is spoiling me.
HP'd AOrochi is ridiculous and I love it. Omce he's hyper on my end oh boy.
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Glowing leaders have all five latent awakening slots full.
No glow til 297, dude. Close though!
Or did you hyper her while I wasnt looking?
But i don`t want the asterisk, just the Glow, most of the +eggs from the Limit Breaking Foundation (Working to push the boundaries of your cards) are heading Wukong-way, Skuld is getting the ones she works for ! :V
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Godfest rolls because I need to do *something* in this game again:
Urd
Earth Dragon Swordsman
Diadem
Satsuki
I'll take it.
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Was trying to go for a luci, got a 2nd verdandi and a beard man instead. No pantheon mons. Should've just spent it on latent farming in half an hour.
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So now i have PC access, anyone up and willing to help me with Coop ? Light and Water Team are the choice.
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So now i have PC access, anyone up and willing to help me with Coop ? Light and Water Team are the choice.
Maybe later. I still need 1-7. Do we have any compatible leads.
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I decided to give myself a little pat on the back via more stones and more pulls and MAN WHAT A TREAT:
-Sylvie
-DKali
-Tsubaki
-Michael
-Ilm
-Astaroth
-Sumire
-Sasuke
We strong.
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Three 6* GFEs!? The heck elder god did YOU sacrifice to? Arengee itself?
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...well then I suppose you have me there, huh? Thought glowing was for pentamax, whoops.
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Time to do some godfest pulls. I forgot there was one today.
-some silver eggs
-Hermes
-Blodin
I guess the game wants me to use a blue team. Though, I could finally be able to build a team with Andromeda and Karin c:
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Another one-of pull today.
-Verdandi dupe number 75
Stoooooop please.
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The REM loves giving you...PRESENTs, huh?
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Time to do some godfest pulls. I forgot there was one today.
-some silver eggs
-Hermes
-Blodin
I guess the game wants me to use a blue team. Though, I could finally be able to build a team with Andromeda and Karin c:
If it's Karin you want to run, you've come to the right place! (Though Chirei has one ever so slightly better, I'm pretty sure I'm basically the 'Karin guy' here since she's my main, although I run stuff in basically every attribute)
Pretty good pulls all around though. What were those silvers? Some of those are sleeper hits that you dont wanna dismiss too quickly!
Edit: man I really have to start remembering when I am gonna doublepost holy crap. This is getting old blah.
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Time to do some godfest pulls. I forgot there was one today.
-some silver eggs
-Hermes
-Blodin
I guess the game wants me to use a blue team. Though, I could finally be able to build a team with Andromeda and Karin c:
I`m also starting out a Blue TPA Team, because i rolled stuff like Skuld and Reine (Blue Valk) and Nut, so if you make a Blue Team Based on TPAs, i`m sure Skuld will aid ya. (Although i`m like Jq, Chirei has a better Skuld, but mine still does the trick.)
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The silvers were pretty much repeats, like Kurone #4.
Not sure if I want to run a Karin team yet, or blue in general. I'm currently looking at teams I can use besides my Verdandi TPA and Rodin team. A.Pandora is doing pretty good atm and I may try out Leilan or Bastet this week.
But it's always nice to have a team for each color. Well, sort of. The closest to a light team I have is Ammy.
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But it's always nice to have a team for each color. Well, sort of. The closest to a light team I have is Ammy.
The closest to a light team I have is Ammy.
Ammy.
I cry everytime.....
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Predra results today:
Got Raoh some sick ATK+ latents so he officially needs a ~glow~
Orochi got more HP.
Awoken Amaterasu got a third RCV to go with her +297 (I'm so sorry, Starlight)
I think I'll dump dark resists into Castor such that he can resist everything at least minimally
Awoken Kirin got mini fingers because what do I do with these? :|
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Awoken Amaterasu got a third RCV to go with her +297 (I'm so sorry, Starlight)
It`s okay, i can`t get mad, especially when the person in question is a fluffy dog that makes crazy 90FPS Extra Runs 9 (No, really, those are awesome, teach me later master.).
Each finger gives out 0.05 sec right ? Having an extra second to make comboes is very useful IMO.
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Each finger gives out 0.05 sec right ? Having an extra second to make comboes is very useful IMO.
I'd say it's situational. If you have a team with a couple of extend time awakening and you're good at matching, then you're better off with other latents. But if you're like me who's only decent, the extra time is very useful :V
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Poring tower is upppp finally, looks like my hunch was right. Go farm those skills while you can.
If I still played Sakuya I feel like I might be excited about that new board changer, but I don't.
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So about Poring Tower, which one is better for Valk Skillups ? Master or Expert ? Need more Drops Drops and Merins.
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expert i believe
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If I'm not mistaken, and I very well could be, they're about even until boosted drops and then Expert becomes the clear winner.
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So what do the drops even skillup? I finished all the difficulties an hour ago, without knowing what the drops do. I just know that there were Ghostrings, and those are useful.
EDIT: Okay, King Mastering looks pretty cool.
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Blue: Siegfried, BValk
Green: CuChu, GValk
Yellow: LValk
Ghostring: the fifty billion things with Poison Mist.
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Cool. I'll stockpile Blues for Siegfried Chicken, then.
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Ooops I missed out on Descend Carnival during boosted boss sales. The one day I forgot to check for it. Oh well.
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Ok, i'm finally somewhat willing to go after the multiplayer challenge.....
Anyone still needs to clear lv 1 to 6 and 10?
As for which leads you should know by now that i can field 80% of the dark ones + Verdandi/A.Ra/A.Sakuya
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Yea, i'm mis-.
Wait, nope, you run Dark, i run Light Rows and Blue TPAs, no match. :(
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Ok, i'm finally somewhat willing to go after the multiplayer challenge.....
Anyone still needs to clear lv 1 to 6 and 10?
As for which leads you should know by now that i can field 80% of the dark ones + Verdandi/A.Ra/A.Sakuya
I do! And seven as well.
I can do any of those (although I prefer Ra over Sakuya as that goes) and obviously Panda.
It's 10:30 EST right now and I'm at work. I probably won't be home until ~7:00 or so. But I'll be available shortly after that if you want.
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Urgh, i hate timezones :V
I'll try to be up but i can make no promises because 7 PM EST means 1 AM for me @__@
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Ha. Well, I may be home earlier depending on when I wrap shit up around here, but probably not by a ton. I'll let you know when I'm home, but if you're not around then fair enough.
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If anyone needs last minute partners, I'm up like all around the clock at weird hours.
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(http://i.imgur.com/WpYwrXg.jpg)
Now i just need 3 more skill-ups on Rose and them my Valkyries will be good to go !
....hey, i can use Rose on a A. Sakuya team as a good sub right ?
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....hey, i can use Rose on a A. Sakuya team as a good sub right ?
Absolutely.
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Urgh, i hate timezones :V
I'll try to be up but i can make no promises because 7 PM EST means 1 AM for me @__@
Alright, I'm home and basically ready to go if you're still up. I'm on IRC, so hit me up here or there and hopefully I'll see it in a timely fashion.
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(http://i.imgur.com/WpYwrXg.jpg)
Now i just need 3 more skill-ups on Rose and them my Valkyries will be good to go !
....hey, i can use Rose on a A. Sakuya team as a good sub right ?
Also Verche, who is even more viable due to Reincarnation Evolution being a thing...IF you are willing to sink an extra 8 million EXP into a max leveled ult'd one.
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Ummm, Verche doesn't have a Wood Subatt. does he ? I want Rose to fill that requisite, and i think i have a REM that fits the last spot, i'll see.
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Ah yeah, I meant in addition to Rose; she'd be in no matter what if you don't have like Apollo or something for just the reason you stated, and even then Apollo only if you were gonna use Awoken Apollo who might actually be a liability due to the light skyfall boost hurting your chances of getting fire/water/wood orbs to drop when you need em.
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I'l still alive ccool :V
If you are still available we can clear the challenges
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Oh yeah I am. I'll get on IRC I guess, find me there.
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I'm still alive. :V
I was actually concerned if you really had died due to how your frequency in IRC seemed to have dropped. ?3?
Enough chitchat though, once i get this A. Sakuya Team running, your A. Sakuya will be in for quite some rides. :D
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>half-asleep while on PAD
>went for Pal Egg but pulled REM instead
>Michael
I always did wanted to try out a wood row team :V
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>half-asleep while on PAD
>went for Pal Egg but pulled REM instead
>Michael
I always wanted to try out a wood row team :V
Grats ! Take good care of my relative !
Also... Namusan ! (^w^)
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Ooh, Dub-Metalit will skill up Zuoh soon. Well that's just abput the easiest skillup you could ask for, isn't it?
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Maybe I'll finally get him that last skillup...just for him to remain a box cheerleader forever whoops.
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I hope I never roll Zuoh, it's almost unfair how much of an excellent panda sub he is.
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OH NO IT'S GOING TO BE ~*~norn fruits~*~
Too bad I don't have Australis, this ridiculous surplus of green masks isn't going to go away anytime soon :v
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OH NO IT'S GOING TO BE ~*~norn fruits~*~
*Looks as the 6 red fruits, then at his single blue fruit, then at Skuld*
"We got GungTrolled dear. Looks like you aren't going to be skillmax like Reine for a while."
Edit: Does that also mean jewels rotation will go back to the Chinese Girls ?
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So I just realized I still don't have a baseline ranking dungeon team. I know Izanami teams are supposed to be a thing, but what goes on them? I don't have black Valkyrie or Hakku.
Edit: Ooh, I forgot black Izanami counted physicals. I can use Zuoh and Halloween Vampire. Those are the sorts of things I want, right?
Edit edit: Or APanda. Is Izanami/APanda/Zuoh/HVampire/Castor or ALoki a thing?
Edit: Does that also mean jewels rotation will go back to the Chinese Girls ?
Nope, I believe they're going to be the Saria series of GFEs. I mean, probably eventually, but not soon.
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OH NO IT'S GOING TO BE ~*~norn fruits~*~
Too bad I don't have Australis, this ridiculous surplus of green masks isn't going to go away anytime soon :v
Eh-
I thought Green gems were his skillup.
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Yeah, the gems are rotating to Dragonbounds.
Eh-
I thought Green gems were his skillup.
All evo mats (or at least most) of a certain rarity rotate every now and then between certain GFEs.
E: And elemental/baby PreDRAs, too.
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Though why anyone would want to be under the mercy of the rng goddesses when they could just sell their predras for mp cash is beyond me.
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How to Endless Corridors, Raf Style:
-Go A. Venus/Waifuterasu Leads.
-Breeze through everything with that 8-10x atk plus TPAs.
-Be immune to Zeus and Hera.
-Profit.
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Yeah, resist and autoheal lead pairs kinda cheese normal EC. Try that in any of the others though and once you get to some boss floors you'll get bodied so fast you won't have time even to blink.
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Once i get to those i'll already have some skillmax stuff and even more Rows ! (You get rows ! You too ! EVERYONE gets rows !)
I can also Cheese No-RCV one the same though, plus it will give more Light orbs and better skyfall combos.
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Yeah, no-RCV looks like a restriction on laper but it's generally actually a handicap. Makes any rainbow lead pretty foolproof.
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Yeah, no-RCV looks like a restriction on laper but it's generally actually a handicap. Makes any rainbow lead pretty foolproof.
Unless said lead uses Heart orbs too.
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Honestly even then you'll probably generally do okay since those typically have smaller multipliers for fewer types matched and you can compensate with higher combos and more prongs and shit.
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(http://i.imgur.com/fi5JHq1l.png)(http://i.imgur.com/3cnd5x6l.png)
Machine Hera no-stone with Bastet!
My hands were shaking as I had to turn 7c 3TPA combos off a liu bei active.
Don't want to waste both people's effort at the last puzzle!
Took us like 10+ tries.
Battle 9 was the true boss.
dem buffs stacked on the right side
Friend team was Courage,Freyja,Kaede,Verdandi
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChwQI8lVAAEYQrz.jpg:large)
(http://www.jotdown.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Darth-Vader-2.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChwQI8lVAAEYQrz.jpg:large)
So cute..... *pets*
I don't mind having a real life one, in fact, why not make all the chibis available as plushies ? (Then i can get Chibi Amaterasu !)
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There's more of them on their twitter (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy). I'm definitely rolling for them once they come out in JP, useful or not :D
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChwQI8lVAAEYQrz.jpg:large)
(http://www.jotdown.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Darth-Vader-2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SuexAsY.png)
And now we play the waiting game for Chibi Alraune ::)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChwPVHkVIAEVnyc.jpg)
CAPTAIN ! WE TOOK A DIRECT HIT ! OUR MAGIC STONES ARE IN PERIL !
Now i want one more card..... damnit GungTroll....
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BAIT REM 2016: RETURN OF USELESS 4* CHIBIS
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(http://i.imgur.com/sTmqsq0.jpg)
OH GOD I THOUGH I COULD FINALLY BE FREE OF THIS GAME WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME
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you literally have the superior version though
let me reiterate that this is a bait rem
it has happened to us so many times now. gungho pukes out inferior versions of what already exists and we all go starry eyed over it because omg cute and empty our wallets, actively condoning how completely devoid of creativity that they have become in lieu of quick cash-ins for sentimental value
holiday rems do this too, but at least the costumed rem cards are functionally different to make them worth going for
do not fall for bait rems, there is only salt at the end of your rainbow
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I kinda want that chibi Skuld more than the normal one because rowssssss
But I know better than to assume I'll get her because yeah right.
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Sorry GH, your chibis don't interest me one bit, you wasted your time with this one.
Btw, now you know why Pandas are considered an endangered specie 8) :
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-05-06-13-43-09_zpsfsfs4rl4.png)
GH, instead of pushing out useless chibis, start working on a good Beach Panda Uevo. :colbert:
For THAT, i'll burn stones. (i actually tried a few rolls for Armored Batman, since he is even better than Zuoh for Pandora but no luck)
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Just in case anyone wanted to know stat changes:
tiny awoken isis
-400
-90
-30
tiny awoken bastet
-400
-50
-60
tiny awoken amaterasu
-500
+0
-80
tiny awoken tsukuyomi
-500
-230
+0
tiny uevo pandora (first ult)
+0
+0
+0
tiny norns (all)
+0
+0
+0
tiny claire
+0
+0
+0
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Pandora is the only Dark card i would be happy getting, with the hope stuff and all.
(D/L UUEvo for hope form or riot GungHo !)
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GH, instead of pushing out useless chibis, start working on a good Beach Panda Uevo. :colbert:
yes thank you my comrade
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Hey Raf, keep your eyes peeled(what an odd saying, hm?); one more thing to try to get later and I miiiight have a super juiced up friend for you to hang out with.
(Oh no more TAMAs to get...;_;)
Also GGY finally gets to earn his Steadfast title as I evolved him after faaaaar too long of leaving him abandoned but maxskilled.
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At IRC Channel:
[15:41:48] <Monarda> Let`s test my luck once today.
[15:41:53] <Monarda> .rem cur (Fail)
[15:41:57] <Monarda> .rem
[15:41:58] <REM-Simulator> Blue Angel, Famiel
*Brief moment of silence with a mix between shock, happiness and sadness.*
[15:42:20] <Monarda> ...........
I cry everytime, i want a luck refund, or have User transfer this REM data to the real REM....... Famiel..... :qq:
And i will Jq.... i will....
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tiny rem is hillarious
'we forgot how to make special rems that don't suck. please don't quit.'
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I cry everytime, i want a luck refund, or have User transfer this REM data to the real REM....... Famiel..... :qq:
:dealwithit:
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Finally got the multiplayer challenge cleared right before it ends. With my incompetent neighbor and me using a shitty Urd team. I managed to coach him into doing at least marginal combos. He just had his 800-day login too...
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Aww cmon, he can` t be that bad, he must at least try to.
:dealwithit:
Your Sim is conspiring against me, it just gave me an Amaterasu result ! Moriya Shrine Conspirancy by aUsernameIsFineToo confirmed.
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Finally got the multiplayer challenge cleared right before it ends. With my incompetent neighbor and me using a shitty Urd team. I managed to coach him into doing at least marginal combos. He just had his 800-day login too...
Sounds like you had a harder time than us doing lv8-10...
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We only died once, but it was definitely because he got a four combo with no prongs on a key turn. Hopefully he knows what to look for now, I taught him to count the number of orbs on screen to figure out the maximum number of prongs and basic stuff like that, so maybe he'll actually put some of that to use.
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Still have only done 1-6...
This is the least amount of Challenge I've completed in a while.
Meanwhile
(http://imgur.com/fCwixFi.jpg)
hey Raphael
Ganesha says hi
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I must be the only one that haven't done the challenges :V I mean, I could've done it but the whole forced multiplayer was a stupid decision by NA GH so I decided to skip it.
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Forcing multi-player on the dungeons that were actually remotely challenging in the first place was a lame-ass move and probably the final straw of why I only ever log in for bonuses and that's all I do. I haven't even touched the challenge dungeons because it's an unnecessary hassle.
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I had a lot of fun with the multiplayer challenges myself. Being forced to go multiplayer sucks because it restricts options, but honestly I wouldn't have bothered to do it if it was optional.
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I'd like multiplayer more if we could fuggin reconnect
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But that's an update too far :ohdear:
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7 turn CD Lucifer is also an update too far.
(http://i.imgur.com/xdIg7Vs.jpg)
Making six heal orbs from non-dark on a 7 turn CD is pretty substantial. And if you're in a precarious enough position to need all that hearts, you probably don't mind being dropped to 1 immediately, either.
I dig.
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Yeah, I'm still not sure what I think of him as a sub. The obvious thing I'm finding myself comparing him to is Sleeping Beauty, but I think they fill different enough niches that at the very least they're both situationally viable in the same spot.
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Thing about Lucifer is, he's got great all around stats and he's going to deal ~damage ~ with those tripledongs.
Of course, for normal heartmaking, I have dual Yomidora and 2.25x RCV. I'll use Sleeping Beauty if I need an immediate bind clear. But no Yomidora god boost is suffering.
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I just saw that Sacchi put the glow on my Skuld, i'm the only one with a card that glows but has no asterisk. :V
Pioneering on something at last.
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(http://i.imgur.com/0oOnEdC.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/mQZWmfgm.png)
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OH WHAT.
Constellation skillups?
I did not know this was coming.
I am excited about this.
Although I went 0/~30 on Ame No Uzume skillups even on 3x skillups, so maybe I'm just fucked regardless. Really wish I owned Antares though, he's the only one I don't got.
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shame I already skillmaxed Castor via Pys
Honestly, I have no regrets and I'll probably only top off the second Alrescha with these biweeklies.
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Yeah I certainly don't regret using Bubpiis on my Alrescha, but all of my Badpiis are reserved for Grisar for a while and I do want access to Pollux.
What on earth are you going to do with a second Alrescha? Skill inheritance? They do not seem compatible on the same team. I'd almost being worried about leading with two of them for all the skillboosts lost.
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It might be possible to squeeze at least like 7 from four sub slots though if you have the right ones in the case of the dual Alrescha leads thing, no? Nowadays that's not as unreasonable as it used to be, after all.
Not sure how viable it is for others, but a possible setup I'd probably do would be like Amon/AKarin*^/Sarasvati/Hermes which gives 8 total, for example, along with enabling row-burst if you can supply the eleven minimum orbs needed for it.
*would debate on subbing her out for Skuld if I had her but the haste might be more valuable anyway
^Possible substitutions include Mar Midgard(if I need HP), Sumire(similar purpose though lesser, but much more useful active since dual Alrescha resists everything but water by 51% as-is not to mention the attached haste), etc.
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If it were up to dual Castor, I'd have no problem. Zaerogoo and Yomidora have four skill boosts on their own, so I'd just need to find one more 2x skill boost and field Hamal or something.
Issue with Castor is, resisting dark is a lot more useful than R/G/B/L in a pinch, I think.
With dual Alrescha leads, I could use Orochi as a 2x skill boost and barely eek out 5 for turn one Hatsumi.
If Acubens had followed the same route as Alcyone and Hamal, I'd love to roll for him, but jammer meta :/
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1/2 price latents may be in the next event for 10M NA downloads, if anyone just very badly wanted to buy some SDR.
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Ooooh! I do! I do!
How many do people typically run, two or three? Or more? Mine will be going on husbando I guess since he's on most of my teams in some capacity, and he special. That really only leaves Ra and my farm teams (Verdandi and Panda) out in the cold.
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Ooooh! I do! I do!
How many do people typically run, two or three? Or more? Mine will be going on husbando I guess since he's on most of my teams in some capacity, and he special. That really only leaves Ra and my farm teams (Verdandi and Panda) out in the cold.
I have absolutely no idea, but I don't think you need more than a handful.
Unless you can farm MZeus/MHera solo, this is probably the best way to get SDR if we're not expecting GH to port PADR anywhere else except JP because they hate money.
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Ehh so SDRs... will i be forced to have it in the future dungeons ? Actually, what are the dungeons that are known to have skill delays ?
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No, you don't need them. Any skill delay enemies so far can be worked around, as far as I know. The closest thing to mandatory I'm aware of is Haphaestus Dragon with his 99 turn (?) delay, but that more requires you to use skill inheritance than delay resists.
As for which dungeons use them... A lot. The relatively common Gear enemies and Cath Palug appear in multiple dungeons and use it. Ultimate Blue Sonia uses is a lot in Gran Reverse. Heimdall and his dungeon use it a lot. I believe Awoken Shiva who appears in many endgame dungeons has a delay preemptive. It's fairly common.
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Yup, AShiva has a two turn skill delay as part of his preemptive package. (Along with a I think 75% gravity and a 99 or 999 turn combo[5+ to beat] shield)
I do not know whether I'll be using SDRs much, but I know I wont be if Id have to use MP to get em.
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I've dropped one Castor skillup out of ten runs of his skillup dungeon. Yaaaaay... Too bad I don't own Antares...
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Hmm, I'm in one of my low swings when it comes to activity and time I spend on this game. Probably because I've been pouring every waking hour doing that stupid challenge-accept project of yours.
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I'm certainly on a downswing as well. I think everyone is, judging from the activity around here. Nothing incredibly interesting going on I guess.
Which project? The dime one? :D
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I would have been done a week and a half ago if it weren't for my perpetual overcomplicating of things :persona:
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I don't really have anything to run or skillup. I can't even dump stamina into Scarlet attempts anymore.
So I'm just waiting for Jormangandr, but even then I already have a Jord and Aegir evolved and ready to uvo him.
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New Wood Gala revealed!
Peter Pan Female Titan's good twin ROBIN HOOD! (at least in GH's minds....)
> Wood Balanced
Chireeiiiiiiiii.... :derp:
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More data about the 10M DL event being uncovered:
"hey guys did you have enough of 10x"
"have some more 10x"
>Some kind of gift dungeon once a day, for ten days
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why does he have tinkerbell
what did he do to peter pan
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Some new GFEs (yawn)
1. Sherias Roots - Light version of Sherias
2. Fenrir Viz - Light version of Fenrir
3. Valvoa - Green version of Valdin
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oh look more dumb resprites
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oh look more dumb resprites
pad ded gaem?
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On that note, I really have to get this off my chest.
As I said months ago, I felt that the spike in power creep was PAD's event horizon into doom. What was once a creative and intriguing game rushed into cranking out huge volumes of waifus and hasubandos for a quick buck-- and nothing sells it quicker than releasing stronger and stronger units of every color.
And it's not that this is a new thing, GH making palette swaps/resprites has always been a thing. But now it's to the point that they've more or less run out of ideas and all they have left is "take this character or concept and change them in extremely tiny ways and be sure to make them far stronger at the same time, and what we end up with is an oversaturated game where too many units do more or less the same fucking things, making them feel as if the only thing that separates them is art and name. And that's boring. That's why we have about 10 different variations of Kali now, for example, that more or less are pretty much the same fucking thing. There's no more feeling of "oh hell yes, I got this chase rare and now I have to build a team around their leader skill", which personally I found super exciting. Kind of the notion that now that everything is special, nothing is. Now you can build functionally the same team with a different reskin and it just feels lifeless. It's great to have variety, don't get me wrong, but what we have is over saturation of too many things that do the same thing without much variance to give them unique play styles.
I could go on a long time with things I felt have gone wrong with PAD's development over the years, but all I ever really do when I come to the thread these days is fuss about it, and I hate that. I hate that something that has not only been a huge part of my life since 2013 but also been my main fixation since that time, as well as social outlet has become so stale and unexciting. At this point in the game, there's no thrill anymore. Pulling chase rares ends up being more of a "ugh FINALLY" than an event that makes your day or even week. And yeah, I'm partially to blame, since I was the one who dumped considerable amounts of cash into collecting them and getting lots more along the way. But now, there's no thrill of the chase anymore. Everything is super strong and with the power creep, the vast majority of dungeons are easy to the point of being super boring. And what's not super easy and meant to be challenging is challenging for the wrong reasons, often boiling down to having the absolute perfect team (because even if everything is super strong, you still get locked out by color drains/resists or "oh, you wanted to do lots of damage? Nope, that's too much and you just healed the boss because that TOTALLY MAKES SENSE" for the dungeons or having to rely on sheer RNG blessing. And that's... sigh.
I kinda wish I could start the game blind again. PAD has made a ton of great improvements over the years despite the dumb things they've done along with it that have made it a much more user-friendly experience, but to me, at this point, it's no longer the game that engaged and enthralled me.
It's called Puzzle and Dragons, but the dragons are and always have been painfully generic (to the point of them having the only way to make them good be slapping a well-loved godfest rare's name on it and making them broken as fuck), and the puzzle is pretty much gone too.
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So, I guess the solution is make stupid broken dungeons, to account for that. Ones where you need, like, 30 combos with certain team types (or the ever-faltering Jammer meta), or what?
EDIT: But then, is there any way to make dungeons runnable with various team types?
EDIT2: And still be hard?
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Fenrir Viz... :ohdear:
That Physical typing and RCV multiplier. Why. My heart is breaking.
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I basically agree with most of what Matsuri's said there, but I still dont feel the lacking excitement myself somehow. Maybe it's the fact I'm not at ultra endgame, but I still find the new stuff I manage to get pieces for to be pretty exciting; I'm on the cusp of being able to try out a shiny new light Healer team, something almost impossible to build powerfully for example.
Making both a DKali like and LKali like for each element I can kinda grudgingly admit is a fair thing to do; making all the special editions revolve around the same few cards(mainly Kali and Sakuya) is pretty lame though when there are any number of other avenues available.
The game is definitely easier to get into though as also stated, which is huge. It's a shame the goalposts have been moved for a lot of people to be sooo far out though.
At the same time, maybe the old spark could be recaptured by making some kind of team entirely different from anything one has tried before? I dunno, something to ponder perhaps.
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I've already beaten everything that's basically not new and doesn't demand that you spike for 50M/have a partner or :getout: with shit teams, so there's not much left for me to do either until they release something that lets me spike through all that with those teams.
It would be painfully easy at my level to just use the cookie cutter teams, so no point buying/chasing those for me.
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So... we've basically cleared PAD with the exception of "Atlus Bonus Boss"-tier content?
At the same time, maybe the old spark could be recaptured by making some kind of team entirely different from anything one has tried before? I dunno, something to ponder perhaps.
I think most people are just interested in keeping up with the power creep, and not particularly concerned with "new" play styles
if the negative comments I see toward Fenrir are anything to base this view off of
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Why people complain about Fenrir ?
I don't see why to hate Jammer Meta, maybe it's just me, but if nobody is using what's supposed to be Meta, then it isn't exactly Meta anyone is it ?
I would love a change in my tactics, and Denebola is a key to it, the same goes to Australis and Skuld/Jq's A. Karin Teams (the last one is stuck due to a lack in both cost AND 2 Water Jewels), they all have a new factor in them that i like a lot.
So if people aren't doing what's fun for them, then why even 'play' ?
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So... we've basically cleared PAD with the exception of "Atlus Bonus Boss"-tier content?
This is actually exactly the point I feel at right now, except I'm trying to do something on the equivalent of a low level run, and the bosses aren't beatable without the increases from higher levels.
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I probably would not still be playing if it weren't for the social element here. That said, while I do agree or find reasons to agree with most of your points, I still find some random reasons to keep playing. Also brought on by artificial difficulty, ie: user error lol.
See, valid complaints and criticisms like matsu's, I like to read. Now, the jp comments on those twitter page links, those are literally cancerous. Like actual tumors hanging off of the OP. I don't know how you do it, tHime.
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So, I guess the solution is make stupid broken dungeons, to account for that. Ones where you need, like, 30 combos with certain team types (or the ever-faltering Jammer meta), or what?
EDIT: But then, is there any way to make dungeons runnable with various team types?
EDIT2: And still be hard?
That's exactly what I'm speaking against. The hardest dungeons in the game right now are just too absurdly difficult to beat unless you have the perfect team (because clearly having a full pentamax team is not enough), so far that unless you do have said perfect team, you'll never beat it unless you are either insanely lucky or you pour a ton of stones into it.
We're at the point where those dungeons don't revolve around one obstacle. For example, Sandalphon used to be insanely hard because you not only had to have an answer for Raphael's dark drain, but also be able to manage your damage against Michael if you couldn't one-shot him (and this was before doing huge damage was a common thing, because it was pre-power creep), and you had to manage your damage against Sandy as well, because if you hit too hard but not hard enough to kill, enjoy a 10-turn bind to all your gods, and good luck doing that without dark types, which the game all but screams you can't play because of Raphael. Take it too slow, and it was too hard to sustain your life for an extended time. But now, the new hardest dungeons need an answer for EVERY obstacle, which means you need very specific and limiting team setups to answer all of them. Which sucks and is honestly outright un-fun.
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So basically we're back to cost limited dungeons where you have to build an entirely new team for the dungeon, except now instead of needing to farm for a team your stuck waiting on pieces out of the REM.
Hi I'm not dead. Though the increased emphasis on farming and multiplayer has outright prevented me from playing in any capacity.
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So basically we're back to cost limited dungeons where you have to build an entirely new team for the dungeon, except now instead of needing to farm for a team your stuck waiting on pieces out of the REM.
Hi I'm not dead. Though the increased emphasis on farming and multiplayer has outright prevented me from playing in any capacity.
You're fine since you have your own game to attend to that is probably a lot less broken than this one
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You're fine since you have your own game to attend to that is probably a lot less broken than this one
Don't forget it is also not RNG-based.
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I think you're referring to the REM but my game has a mechanic that can nearly kill a player outright. Early in the design process I referenced custom smash bros battles like a big bowl shaped stage and footballs only with high launch, I called the stage The World Cup.
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I think you're referring to the REM but my game has a mechanic that can nearly kill a player outright. Early in the design process I referenced custom smash bros battles like a big bowl shaped stage and footballs only with high launch, I called the stage The World Cup.
And the droprates, and the skillups rates, and the invade rates..... etc...
And wow :o , but to be honest i really don't care much about soccer unlike most people around here. :V
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I think you're referring to the REM but my game has a mechanic that can nearly kill a player outright.
I assume you're referring to a certain tree-based incident? It always makes things interesting... :D
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I'm referring to Lily White who nukes for 3 when most players have 4 life. "Zany" is a good descriptor for it
Edit: really my game has as much RNG as PAD but it doesn't have characters that are strictly better than others and doesn't encourage gambling
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Oh right, that is what I was thinking of. Isn't there a Saigyou Ayakashi card that does something similar/complementary?
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Yes that incident makes you lose a life when your turn comes up, and there's no defense against it besides stopping the incident by playing winter cards
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Oh no ! I'm horrible at stuff that has time/turn limits ! :ohdear:
But anyways, does anyone else here have a Mecha-bastet ? Aka Denebola too ?
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But anyways, does anyone else here have a Mecha-bastet ? Aka Denebola too ?
I'd help you out but my Denebola is on my JP PAD :V dat jammer meta though.
And it seems that I missed quite a bit while being out. Although I play more casually than most people here, I do agree with what's going on nowadays with PAD. Two things that annoys me the most though, is the increased push of jammer meta (ie. Fenrir, Mechanical Gods, etc) and multiplayer. If I wanted to play a game that focused on multiplayer, I'd go play MMOs or anything else centers around multiplayer. As for jammers, I'll stick with the original 6 orbs myself. I'm not down to deal with an orb that requires either an active skill or an enemy skill for jammers to appear.
But it's always fun to build and try out different teams, assuming I don't get REM-screwed (which is one of the most annoying parts of the game). And of course, there's dungeons I haven't cleared yet that doesn't require a "super team". Just got my 3rd +297 fodders on both accounts and working on a 4th one so I guess I have something to do on PAD when not clearing descended, challenges, etc.
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I'd help you out but my Denebola is on my JP PAD :V dat jammer meta though.
And it seems that I missed quite a bit while being out. Although I play more casually than most people here, I do agree with what's going on nowadays with PAD. Two things that annoys me the most though, is the increased push of jammer meta (ie. Fenrir, Mechanical Gods, etc) and multiplayer. If I wanted to play a game that focused on multiplayer, I'd go play MMOs or anything else centers around multiplayer. As for jammers, I'll stick with the original 6 orbs myself. I'm not down to deal with an orb that requires either an active skill or an enemy skill for jammers to appear.
But it's always fun to build and try out different teams, assuming I don't get REM-screwed (which is one of the most annoying parts of the game). And of course, there's dungeons I haven't cleared yet that doesn't require a "super team". Just got my 3rd +297 fodders on both accounts and working on a 4th one so I guess I have something to do on PAD when not clearing descended, challenges, etc.
A lot of the game's allure remains when there's still content that's within reasonable reach. The best you can do if try to make those victories memorable, which is what helped keep the value for me.
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pad ded gaem?
Not before Rage of Bahamut or Idolmaster CG chokes first.
Honestly though, PAD isn't really dying so much as it's player base is so old the people bored are becoming more noticable.
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A lot of the game's allure remains when there's still content that's within reasonable reach. The best you can do if try to make those victories memorable, which is what helped keep the value for me.
Yeah, it's pretty much what I like to do every time I tackle a tough dungeon and clear it without stoning. I don't see myself clearing any of those special descended anytime soon, but clearing dungeons like Sonia Gran recently put a big smile on my face. Clearing tough dungeons (tough for me) like those tells me, "hey, maybe I can clear some of the other tough dungeons too".
Although to be fair, I may have to consider to tackle the tough dungeons eventually, I'm looking at the upcoming descended list over on the PAD database and I've already cleared most of it :V
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it's kinda funny how we're talking about old players getting bored with the game
yet most players are appalled at the idea of trying the COME ON AND JAM meta if they roll it.
GungHo can't make new methods of play if we're so stubborn and unwilling to use new units. We haven't seen a new Pantheon since this whole PAD radar thing, haven't we?
We've exhausted so many ideas by this point too. Combo gods, rainbow, heart leads like Lakshmi, Parvati, Gadius, all the variations of mono-attribute and mono-type. Popcorn was an attempt to move away from TPAs and rows and some people still don't know that orb enhance awakenings scale past just five.
I'm sure more people had jumped onto the Hel train than Fenrir.
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it's kinda funny how we're talking about old players getting bored with the game
yet most players are appalled at the idea of trying the COME ON AND JAM meta if they roll it.
Yup, that's essentially the thing. A lot of older people are just like 'this is so bad all these old things are more efficient' that we kinda just... start doing the thing I've done for years and gone 'all these new cards suck'. So we start seeing things as essentially far worse off than they are.
This combined with how long a lot of metas tend to take to get off the ground really is part of the reason why this happens, tbh. (Remember how long it took before rows were widely used??? or TPAs????)
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I want to try Fenrir but skillups are so important, and to some degree +eggs
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My thoughts on this topic are this:
If it wasn't for having something to talk about with you guys, and to a lesser extent my IRL friends who play, I probably would have more or less quit playing after I reached roughly endgame. I feel like I've mostly done stuff, and all that's left is whale dungeons that don't seem fun to me. That doesn't mean I won't give them a try eventually, but I'm not feeling very motivated. Honestly what's got me most excited right now is actually multiplayer. I enjoyed that last multiplayer challenge a ton and I'm looking forward to doing it again some time, so as a result I'm branching out and leveling as many viable cards as possible to give me the best chance of having a good match with somebody else. I may also try to get really into the next ranking dungeon, although it will have to have non-bullshit design for me to want to do that. I have to find my own fun to a bit of a degree at this point (Project Shinji is still on), and I'm playing less than I did at my peak, but I'm still having fun.
As for game balance, I think I'm severely warped in my perception of it by other games I play. I've alluded to this before and may have even mentioned it, but I'm a longtime player of the tabletop game Heroclix. It's a superhero miniatures game that I've been playing since I was eleven years old, and not to brag but I'm really, really good at it. And it sucks, and that makes me sad in a way that it's hard to articulate. This game is honestly probably the thing I'm best at, and I've logged thousands upon thousands of hours playing it. I've met a ton of good friends playing it, I met everyone I've ever lived with through it including my current roommate, I've made a decent amount of prize money playing it (not talking Magic levels, but enough that I've probably just about broken even on Heroclix expenses overall). If it wasn't for all of the good friends I have at my weekly Heroclix games I would have quit long ago, but I love having an excuse to hang out with them.
So I have all this invested in the game, and it fucking sucks. It's a bad game made by incompetent, greedy designers. Things are looking up a tiny bit in the sense that they've resolved to overhaul design in a big way, but their track record is abysmal. So anyway, I say all of this because it's made me blind to bad design to some degree. No choice Gungho has ever made has even come close to equaling the pay to win bullshit Heroclix spews out in a PVP game on a regular basis, and that's without even getting into the way their game encourages players to use strategies that aren't fun, teaching them to hate the game and that trying to have fun is for suckers. PAD could be fucking up left and right and I would barely notice because I'm used to much, much worse. I've just become a bad judge of this kind of thing through such constant and personal exposure to abysmal decision making.
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Looks like FF collab is coming back, after a long event of no stones orz
I'll just roll what I have, fuckitall. I don't really care about frivolous rolling anymore.
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So I have all this invested in the game, and it fucking sucks. It's a bad game made by incompetent, greedy designers. Things are looking up a tiny bit in the sense that they've resolved to overhaul design in a big way, but their track record is abysmal. So anyway, I say all of this because it's made me blind to bad design to some degree. No choice Gungho has ever made has even come close to equaling the pay to win bullshit Heroclix spews out in a PVP game on a regular basis, and that's without even getting into the way their game encourages players to use strategies that aren't fun, teaching them to hate the game and that trying to have fun is for suckers. PAD could be fucking up left and right and I would barely notice because I'm used to much, much worse. I've just become a bad judge of this kind of thing through such constant and personal exposure to abysmal decision making.
Honestly dear god, this is a thing I -very- much feel as well without the massive investment part.
Even when I do get annoyed at shit like Beach Claire, My eventual retention is probably very much realizing how overall Gungho is by far the best in the business to it's users, even in NA.
Unless we count royal flush heroes.
Rip Royal Flush Heroes.
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excuse me Agni
What
Just, what?
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Gungho: "use a fire leader for your green attackers even though it's completely useless to itself"
Xiu Min is intriguing though? Nothing necessarily game-changing, but finally light rows get a chance to really shine.
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Poison to jammers? The jammer meta moves in mysterious ways I see.
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I don't even think this is a case of Jammer meta
I think the reality is, they wanted some 3 CD active skill to skill link with that "Change own attribute to Wood" weapon and "Poison to Jammer" was the most niche thing they could conceive for 3 turns.
Edit: got the chance to fight Sopdet with Fenrir today. Pretty rough when Fenrir has one of the highest ATK in the game, deals 2x because of dark>light and another 3x because of God killer.
Turns out, you can just not use jammers and instead do your best F/L Horus impression.
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I'm still convinced Agni is a horrible horrible typo.
Xiu min now that I've seen his entire set is really really really fucking good.
Like, legitimately, probably best of this set now that I think of it. Access to the entire color allows him to do his best Hero impression and do ridiculous damage, while having reasonable bulk from say geez i don't know -7k fucking hp-.
My only real problem is lack of bulk in LS similar to the blue card (Which is just bad) and somewhat janky ls not letting him do a full hero impression and being really rough on orb management, but he's also a pretty damn solid sub for light phys teams as well.
He's just an amazingly well balanced card. He might be my pick for 300k mp card.
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Looks like Agni isn't a typo at all. It's been added to the database AND there's a D/B version of him now, whose LS also boosts Wood cards :V
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I wonder if GH is getting backlash from JP players over that thing...? I'd love to see what their response/justification was.
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I don't think there's any justification needed, it's just interesting design. Whether it's balanced correctly or not is up for debate, but the idea of a lead with the drawback of not buffing itself is honestly really interesting. I wouldn't be against more of this. A physical that buffs healers or something would be really interesting if the power level is strong enough to bother using it.
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I'd love to see what their response/justification was.
The R/L LS is an unconditional 1/4.5/1.5 from a descend drop, the D/B one is an unconditional 1/6/1 from a descend drop. Green attackers are also one of the better green types as it has most of the double and triple prongs members.
Agni would render many REM chars inferior if he affected himself. :V
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Oh, I guess that's what I get for not looking more closely at the LS other than confusion at it not matching the mon at all.
Yeah, I guess that makes more sense,haha.
EDIT: Seeing how things are going(barring some sort of drastic change) I'm finding myself laughing mirthlessly at the title of this iteration of the thread...Gonna hope for a miracle here I suppose!
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EDIT: Seeing how things are going(barring some sort of drastic change) I'm finding myself laughing mirthlessly at the title of this iteration of the thread...Gonna hope for a miracle here I suppose!
I could change it but we're 31 pages in already :V
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I guess challenge descend isn't x10 sucks
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I guess challenge descend isn't x10 sucks
It's 10x, check again
EDIT: Seeing how things are going(barring some sort of drastic change) I'm finding myself laughing mirthlessly at the title of this iteration of the thread...Gonna hope for a miracle here I suppose!
It's not that NA sucks it's that GH is sucking as a whole
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Would someone remind me again how skill inheritance works? I'm finding myself seriously considering picking up Charite again and I know nothing else can inherit her skill, but can she inherit? Being able to put another niche active like a poison on her seems extremely appealing.
Not looking forward to having to completely redo all my latents if I do pick her up though.
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Would someone remind me again how skill inheritance works? I'm finding myself seriously considering picking up Charite again and I know nothing else can inherit her skill, but can she inherit? Being able to put another niche active like a poison on her seems extremely appealing.
Not looking forward to having to completely redo all my latents if I do pick her up though.
Any card I believe may inherit a skill, but the only ones that can transfer skills must be from a REM, and be 5* (If they can evolve to 5* or higher rarity, this is fine.)
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Hmm, that does make her kind of tempting then. Not sure what kind of poison I would put on her since my Awoken Neptune is currently sort of in use, but I believe replacing Beyzul with her+poison active wpuld be able to handle most or all current Challenge 10s. Not sure about Arena though, would definitely need gravity at least.
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(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXRWxrb3NENGJsdG8)
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(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXRWxrb3NENGJsdG8)
grod-e
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(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXRWxrb3NENGJsdG8)
:colonveeplusalpha:
This is torture....
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So who all's taking up that deal? I'm still debating it but I might.
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I had 4.79 in Google Play monies, so I went for it. Got Hathor. Not bad, I didn't have her.
For 20 cents, I cannot complain.
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17 cents away rip
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If you have it connected to a bank account or paypal account, it'll just take those last few cents from there.
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If you have it connected to a bank account or paypal account, it'll just take those last few cents from there.
It's google opinions so idk
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Was tempted up until last night. Now Im probably leaving it be until I see how things shake out over the next few weeks; I dont have the Opinion credit anyway so it's prob to my benefit.
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It's google opinions so idk
Yeah, that's where my play credit came from. When i went to buy it, there was a little checkmark that said I could apply that credit to the purchase, and on the receipt it simply said that it took 20 cents from my paypal account to pay for the rest.
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Got a Rozuel out of it.
Considering her short 5 CD, I don't mind having two of her for skill inheritance purposes.
Never beat this guy before. While I don't have strictly "powerful" blue mobs, this shows the relative utility of Blue compared to Red and the like.
(http://i.imgur.com/OO4quzL.jpg)
Popped Ryune and Hatsumi, saw the holy 19/11 board setup.
Apply some Neptune, and checkmate.
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While I don't have strictly "powerful" blue mobs, this shows the relative utility of Blue compared to Red and the like.
What do you consider "powerful" then? Aren't Orochi and I&I considered top-tier blue? All I can think of that's lacking is trashbitch garbageAndro. And maybe Bonia I guess?
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(I used Gabriel over Andromeda because Andromeda doesn't have heart enhance yet for emergency heals and Attacker typing for Neptune)
I would feel a lot more comfortable with my burst options if I had a Hermes or Bonia again. But for all my attempts to get Hermes, I've only obtained three Persephone and an Ares for it :/
Orochi isn't necessarily "powerful", since his TPAs often go to waste, but damn he is still incredibly useful :V
Contrast with red teams that have to charge in with strong leader multipliers and orb change after orb change, like Shivadora and Raoh. Almost every awoken and active skill is strong, but the diversity of active skills is weak.
Like, Minerva converts dark to fire + defense break, while Ceres is a useful cleric; Shiva enhances fire and defense breaks, while Parvati and Lakshmi both make heart orbs.
Hino Kagutsuchi makes EVEN MORE fire and dark, plus YET ANOTHER DEFENSE BREAK, while Orochi and Susano are carrying blue and green.
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If by "powerful" you do just mean raw damage, then yeah, Gabe and Ryune are pretty top-shelf. I took it to mean "viable", in which case Orochi's prong focus shouldn't even matter. He would still be great even if he had no prongs.
I also have never been able to pick up a Hermes. In fact, I just keep getting Apollo over and over. He's the ONLY Greek 2 I have.
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Had a iTunes gift card lying around so I figured I decided to take up that one-time deal.
>Nut
This game really wants me to go blue :V
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I took the deal, got a second Michael. Which wouldn't be a bad thing, astaroth team hype?
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Astaroth is a supreme-tier leader, so yes.
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Astaroth is a supreme-tier leader, so yes.
I pulled a froge yesterday.
It's insane.
(http://i.imgur.com/p39Jxhu.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/XShF4n4.jpg)
Got my dragon boy them delay resists. His rainbow resists are broken, so I guess I'll gradually fill the rest out with fingers.
Edit: Bought the special bonus deal, got Susano. Of course it was a fucking duplicate, but at least he's a great one. Keeping him.
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Amon for my special pull. I don't know if I actually have much in the way of water physical, but water devil has a couple prospects.
Also since I didn't really use stamina on anything today, I went through the pirates' grotto and tested a thing: if you deliberately try to keep most of your board blinded on Blackbeard, he'll use a weak single hit. Apparently this weak hit also disables his other blind moves, so he'll go immediately into Queen Anne's Revenge and kill you next turn.
Probably not very useful information, but ~*~the more you know~*~
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(http://i.imgur.com/7uNeMrh.png)
I always love using green teams, and this just made it even better :3 Though I have to admit, it was bit scary. First time using my Astaroth team in a challenging dungeon like this. Now, it's my go-to team for dungeons my Parvati teams can't clear.
Although it is a bit sad that my JP teams are doing better than my NA teams :V
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Edit: whoops, ignore this post.
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Picked up the special bonus deal, and it's a Gabriel. No water teams just yet, but probably handy for the future.
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(http://i.imgur.com/7uNeMrh.png)
I always love using green teams, and this just made it even better :3 Though I have to admit, it was bit scary. First time using my Astaroth team in a challenging dungeon like this. Now, it's my go-to team for dungeons my Parvati teams can't clear.
Although it is a bit sad that my JP teams are doing better than my NA teams :V
what is the first g/d card?
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what is the first g/d card?
Ult. Cauchemar
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Ult. Cauchemar
Ah, now it makes sense. I thought you had an enhance on but that was actually skyfall boost from Artemis.
In other news I have seen real defeat
(http://i.imgur.com/0Ds6MER.png)
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Thanks for the Castor, special REM. Now Batman has a new friend!
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Man, all these cool things from the special REM are making me reeeeally tempted to pop the like 4 dollars on it(~$1 in Googledollars) despite my earlier misgivings.
I don't knowwwww... i'm gonna be so mad if it's like another dupe Ganesha or something though if I do.
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Thanks for the Castor, special REM. Now Batman has a new friend!
Castor is one of the coolest mobs in the game, I swear. Those two heart orb enhances do a HUGE part both defensively and offensively, since his base RCV is a little low.
Cool that he fits on your Batman crew, though, too. ;)
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Castor makes me not really sad at all that I don't have Claire. I got a couple skillups on him from his dungeon and I kind of don't see myself running it much more while 10x Kanetsugu is up, but I'll happily finish him with Badliis at some point.
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Cracked, got the pack thing, got a (best according to some)cat.
I am not sure if I have a team to make her good, but I can try I suppose, and it wasnt a dupe so Ill certainly not argue with THAT.
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Cracked, got the pack thing, got a (best according to some)cat.
I am not sure if I have a team to make her good, but I can try I suppose, and it wasnt a dupe so Ill certainly not argue with THAT.
What cat ? Mecha cat ? Dark Cat ? Original Cat ? If it's Mecha cat then i'm really glad.
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Cracked, got the pack thing, got a (best according to some)cat.
only to thaws
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What cat ? Mecha cat ? Dark Cat ? Original Cat ? If it's Mecha cat then i'm really glad.
Out of those I guess it'd be "original cat". I had forgotten that I have a bunch of cool TPA stuff too so I mighr actually be able to do stuff with her.
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Cat is best cat. Facts is facts.
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Cat is best cat. Facts is facts.
Preach it! Bestcat users unite!
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Nepdra/Ryune's 80% lock resist comes up surprisingly often. :wat: Gotta remember to use Nepdra/Nepdra instead for some dungeons (not that it causes him to lose very often, it's just annoying to stall out).
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Just... sitting on seven woodpys, Jord, Aegir, some Trifruits and a lot of green exp.
I need Jormangandr so I can reclaim box space, sheesh.
Descend challenge all clear, though. I guess I gotta go kill Kanetsugu some more, huh?
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only to thaws
Cat is best cat. Facts is facts.
Preach it! Bestcat users unite!
I am not alone!!!!!!! ;--;
but she loses a lot of power on NA because no Funbaru loop ._.
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"ok the last time I pulled lots I took 10 pulls for Elize, surely I can get some RGB Norse in 10 pulls right"
(http://i.imgur.com/6T12TyS.png) (http://i.imgur.com/54y7vcf.png)
OH MY GOD NOT THAT KIND OF NORSE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(https://cdn-images.xda-developers.com/direct/2/5/4/3/6/1/5/GameOver.gif)
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"ok the last time I pulled lots I took 10 pulls for Elize, surely I can get some RGB Norse in 10 pulls right"
(http://i.imgur.com/6T12TyS.png) (http://i.imgur.com/54y7vcf.png)
OH MY GOD NOT THAT KIND OF NORSE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(https://cdn-images.xda-developers.com/direct/2/5/4/3/6/1/5/GameOver.gif)
System message: Chirei has gained 100% Norn-ness!
System message: Chirei has evolved into a Norn!
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Time to see what I get.
Verdandi
Markab
Cinderella
Sharon
REM hating on me as usual :V I love Verdandi and all, but I wanted the other green norse (Freyja). At least having Cinderella means just Snow White to go to have the whole Fairy Tale series.
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I shouldn't do any pulls since I already have most of the constellations and don't really want dupes, but I do want I&I so I guess I'll try one.
-Dupe Liu Bei
Huh?
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Looks like we'll be getting another ranking dungeon on Monday according to PADX. Preset team using double A.Horus lead with Mechanical God subs (excluding Pollux). Fagan and the Chinese gods have a 99 turn countdown so easy free stone there :3
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Looks like we'll be getting another ranking dungeon on Monday according to PADX. Preset team using double A.Horus lead with Mechanical God subs (excluding Pollux). Fagan and the Chinese gods have a 99 turn countdown so easy free stone there :3
Wow. We're skipping a lot of cups, then.
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Also if any of you somehow need jewels, they cam drop very rarely frpm here I believe.
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Ronia, Thor, Lumiel, Zuoh get this time. I'm not entirely sure how good I did, hah :v
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So today i tried a Yolo roll.
>Dupe Dino Rider
Needless to say, my weakness regarding the REM kicked in, Honor.
"Not gonna leave without something good."
>Another Dupe Dino Rider.
"...."
>Fenrir
"Well.... he`s GFE, but he`s Dark..."
>Antares
"Fair enough."
tl;dr: I wasted 4 rolls because i`m stubborn, dumb and can`t leave without something acceptable.
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Did a roll, Creuse again.
Blahhhh, MP for whatever the heck I decide to buy I suppose.
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hey ccool, someone did you a favor and kicked out ilsix in this wallpaper (http://puu.sh/oSIST/09e6b11aaf.png)
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Second Saria. I can do things with this, I'm sure.
Freyja.
Shaitan. Sold.
Spica
(http://imgur.com/aQInvJB.jpg)
She looks so sad. I can't stand for this.
(http://i.imgur.com/ThHTe6n.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tD3gpEY.jpg)
She looks much happier now, yes?
rip jormandanr savings
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hey ccool, someone did you a favor and kicked out ilsix in this wallpaper (http://puu.sh/oSIST/09e6b11aaf.png)
Oh shit, that's neat. Although I'm not sure Ilsix can fly, so he may not have been an option.
Old-style husbando I see. Very nice.
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Looks like we'll be getting another ranking dungeon on Monday according to PADX. Preset team using double A.Horus lead with Mechanical God subs (excluding Pollux). Fagan and the Chinese gods have a 99 turn countdown so easy free stone there :3
Worth mentioning Fagan drops evolved, so if you guys need to awaken your Sakuya, this is going to save some work.
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Oh shit, that's neat. Although I'm not sure Ilsix can fly, so he may not have been an option.
Since i'm pretty sure Ilsix is half polar bear, he can probably "fly" by jumping insane heights.
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I hear my roommate and my incompetent neighbor both beat Ultimate Dragon Rush last week with their Shiva and Urd teams respectively. Neither of them are great players (although one is waaaay better than the other) so that's cool to hear, It was the first Legend Plus clear for both of them.
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aaaaaaaaaaa
(http://i.imgur.com/u6bwZSLl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/u6bwZSL.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/EQQaIAsl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/EQQaIAs.jpg)
This was the worst way to try to get a mystic mask but it worked out somehow. Now that I have it, Satsuki's evolved and maxed out, so I should have everything I need for the second FF dungeon tomorrow.
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I've heard of masochism, but fighting Lifive for a MASK? Daaaang, you're too hardcore.
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Utterly stupid is what I am :V
I don't think I could have pulled that off with any other friend leader; Krishna's full multiplier helped a lot with clearing out pengdras before they stomped me, and the skyfall boost contributed a lot to that burst screenshot.
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so I'm convinced that with two Sarias
I -can- make Supergirl work. Between Big Dog and double dragonbound, I have some rows to work with and ALL THAT PHYSICAL HP while still having Supergirl's 1.5x RCV
but like
Is it worth fielding two Sarias on the same crew? I know double Ryune sometimes checks out
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I mean, I wouldn't. I'm anti-board change as a general rule. If you must stack them though (and two isn't really stacking I guess) then a heartmaking one with haste is pretty much best case scenario.
What would you put in the last slot?
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honestly not sure
Maybe Elia for non-abysmal stats, a useful and short cd haste active and precious dark resist awokens
Awoken Amaterasu fills desperately needed SBR and cleric duties
Ganesha is there I guess :V
Because four members of the crew have hastes, even the lengthiest of cool downs isn't so intimidating. 20.25x ATK and 2.25x RCV is swell, too. Being limited to Physical and Healer, though...?
Can't use Kanna. Can't use Sandalphon without gutting my HP. Purin is the best bet but no SBR :despair:
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And time for insomnirolls
1) Lightning
2) Rain
3) Rinoa
4) Cecil
5) Squall
None of them are Y'shtola but I will totally take that result. Apparently the gold rate in the machine is pretty high?
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4) Cecil
Looks like you've got your damage option...
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Didn't get my chase rares of Lightning, Cecil, or Terra, but that gold rate tho:
1. Y'shtola
2. Ace
3. Vivi
4. Y'shtola
5. Sephiroth
6. Zidane
EDIT: Broke my Non-IAP streak for this one special occasion:
7. Yuna
8. Sephiroth
So uh, 6/8 rares. Already had Yuna, and Y'shtola and Sephiroth were dupes but... dude.
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Gave the Ranking Dungeon a try.
I never played a full rainbow team like Horus before, quite an intriguing change of playstyle from my Row and TPA based teams.
I didn't go very well, because Meimei was really pissing me off (Not your Meimei Chaore), skyfall wasn't very gentle either and my lack of skill made it worse.
Got 75.1% in the end and stayed in Tama level, trying to get to PreDra level at least, still fun, and i get free jewels (if drop gods agree) and Fagan for my Sakuya.
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(http://i.imgur.com/rFleAJV.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/jznWJ9m.jpg)
Challenge Dungeon 29 LV10 clear.
1 stone on Charite because she deleted my hearts and my Izanami wasn't up.
No seriously why do they balance Challenge dungeons for coop? It's so dumb.
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Did one godfest pull for goofs, got Typhon. I believe this my fourth 6* after black Metatron, black Kali, and Halloween Kali. I 'm not complaining of course, that's great, but... how about some of those blue chases some day..?
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mwahahahohohohohoho
Edit: Apparently the game heard that laugh at the end because I immediately yolorolled shantotto
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mwahahahohohohohoho
"You can faintly hear the distant cry of a Dark User called Espadas."
BTW, do you have Mecha Cat Edible ? I need a friend with her and it would make sense that one of Bestet's biggest fans to have her twin sister.
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Sadly, I do not.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Eo9gpHa.png)
It'll probably go down after I wake up but since the difference in rewards is a Bubpy, it won't really matter much to me.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Eo9gpHa.png)
It'll probably go down after I wake up but since the difference in rewards is a Bubpy, it won't really matter much to me.
I wish i were as good as you, i barely reached 71%. :(
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(http://i.imgur.com/Eo9gpHa.png)
It'll probably go down after I wake up but since the difference in rewards is a Bubpy, it won't really matter much to me.
Did you oneshot every wave?
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Did you oneshot every wave?
Nah. Some took 2 tries due to either bad skyfalls or me messing up combos. Or in Fagan's case, trolled with 5% hp left after the first hit :V
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4.1%
I'm not self conscious about my lackluster team because everybody has the same team!
I think I would have preferred if they gave us Pollux instead of Antares. Light orbs are almost irredeemably useless in this ranking dungeon.
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I like this ranking dungeon. Preset teams should happen more often. 18-ish% for me.
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I'm looking forward to trying it later. I don't have any real experience with Horus per se, but hopefully my Ra experience will translate acceptably.
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It will. You play one color combo god, you've played them all, really.
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I'm looking forward to trying it later. I don't have any real experience with Horus per se, but hopefully my Ra experience will translate acceptably.
you'll be fine, Horus is way less strict than Ra
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(http://imgur.com/WFy6bfn.png)(http://imgur.com/czM5pgB.png)
I did pretty lame, but I got the boss drop, so that's good. He'll happily replace my Mystic Mask.
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It will. You play one color combo god, you've played them all, really.
you'll be fine, Horus is way less strict than Ra
Here's hoping. My concern at this point is that I don't really have an eye for getting good damage out of rainbow boards, but rather for getting a full activation every time. It'll be interesting to see how that works out.
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Godfest rolls.....
Grodin
2x junk
Yomi
More stuff for the collection.....
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notes:
You don't need to pop any actives to kill Suzaku or Byakko if you get a good x20.25 (I've killed Byakko with x16 before) so you can cut time there
Same goes for Karin technically but she resists half your team sooooo pop Spica for good measure and to save fire orbs for Genbu
Genbu is the first major wall; you'll need a Fire TPA, maybe a Horus enhance, and 20.25x to put her down. However, you need Antares's active later to kill Kouryuu in a single turn. Do your best?
Byakko is a pushover, but Kirin has a ton of HP. Castor is your best bet to push her HP down.
Then it comes to Kouryuu and whether you have enough hearts for Antares to give a good board, and of course getting orb trolled out of 20.25x is killer.
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Here's hoping. My concern at this point is that I don't really have an eye for getting good damage out of rainbow boards, but rather for getting a full activation every time. It'll be interesting to see how that works out.
(http://i.imgur.com/LEaFhy4.jpg)
Here was my score for it, as someone who has never run Horus before but has run Ra Dragon a fair bit.
EDIT: As Purin said, Kirin has a lot of HP, 4M to be precise. Fagan has 5M.
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First run got me 98,042 points (13.5%). I can definitely see a ton of room for improvement over that run, so that's great news. Will sit down and focus and do some more runs later.
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Up to ~6% so far, still lots of room for improvement. Gonna gun for the crown or even top10 this time...
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as usual, I think I'll stick to 4%
It's enough knowing that when the playing field is completely even, I'm alright at PAD.
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As someone who qualified for the top12 in the international tournament, I can't settle for being alright. This time, the whales are in MY world.