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Re: "Mod edit title: No idea what title this should be"
CyberAngel:
--- Quote from: Helepolis on August 04, 2018, 10:00:47 PM ---Splitted posts from misc thread + locked.
None of this fits the Misc thread nor any of the forum sections from what I can tell.
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A talk about ZUN. Not fitting anywhere on a Touhou forum. Seriously.
It fits here just fine. It's a discussion of ZUN's views on society. If it's too political in your eyes then we have a whole subforum where stuff like that is discussed no problem. A discussion like this could be pretty useful and help dispel some misinformation about his stance on things that some people might believe (not everyone can pick up that stuff from the context of the works alone, you know).
But let's be frank here. The topic was obviously locked due to OP's personal stance on questions raised. And it was different from one accepted by the more prominent members here. Look, I understand it. Your place, your rules. You want to deny piracy as the main source of games for western fans, fine. You want to deny series having an appeal to lolicon fans, fine (even though some people freely used "loli" in casual conversations despite an explicit ban on the word when that case blew up and got away with it purely because of having a big "Admin's Friend" badge). But this is going outside of any clearly stated rules. OP might have voiced views that go against what ZUN believes (and you people as well), but it was done in a considerate, non-confrontational manner. Locking the topic did nothing but prevent OP or someone like them from understanding the other side better and possibly changing their opinion. Again, if you people want to keep the main discussion places politics-free then fine. But be more clear about it. It is VERY obvious when you try to be too quiet about something.
Sincerely,
someone who was nothing to say on the actual topic, but can tell repressions taking place on first sight
I moved your thread to the forum section where it fits as it looked really strange with the original locked thread -Hele
niektory:
The mods here do seem to be quite trigger happy. I personally believe that censorship is almost always a bad thing.
Drake:
I spoke to Hele about it and there were apparently reports of the post(s), and there was some confusion about what the topic even was at all, hence the nondescript edited title. It was more trying to open an unfocused discussion so being in its own thread even in TARC is better than stuffing it in Misc Qs. I think this is pretty understandable, even though I don't think it should have been locked.
This wasn't anything but Hele's discretion by the sound of it, and he first considered moving it to Cafe, so I really don't think accusations of censorship or forum-wide dogma are appropriate here, even if I understand why you could see that as a possibility.
MatsuriSakuragi:
--- Quote from: niektory on August 06, 2018, 05:31:54 PM ---The mods here do seem to be quite trigger happy. I personally believe that censorship is almost always a bad thing.
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as someone who used to be an admin here i assure you that "trigger happy" is the last thing you could consider how things work
that said we were (past tense, in context of me no longer being a mod) always free to use our own discretion to nip potential powder keg topics in the bud too, even if this wasn't really the case and more a matter of not thinking the topic was placed in the right place
then again, some people will call any sort of moderation censorship and that's also pretty funny
Helepolis:
Apologies for the delayed reply, because it was getting late yesterday and decided to post in the morning (which is now).
There were reports which had drawn my attention. Upon reading the report I checked the post in question and here is how my thought process went:
- The post was truly not fitting the Misc thread as it didn't map with the, not to be called guidelines, information in the 1st post
- Upon splitting I couldn't understand what the actual topic was. There seemed, in my eyes, multiple topics being addressed
- This caused real confusion for me to effectively moderate the thread
- I considered moving it to the cafe, because the 'Trump topic' leaned towards that section, but then there was ZUN topic and Kancolle topic.
- Finally decided to lock and modify the thread title to express my confusion
There was no ill intend nor any motive of applying censorship or any other form of it.
If my moderation was found wrong, then anybody is free to address it and we can try to find a fitting solution together. Lashing out with cheap opportunistic and passive aggressive behaviour does nobody good. If you have personal issues with any of the moderators, then report them.
If there are any more inquiries, concerns or questions, feel free to post them here or PM me or talk to me on IRC. I will try to reply to them in between of my busy work schedule.
Cheers,
Helepolis