> Declare "Moonlight Ray" but actually hold out the card so the spell doesn't activate just make an intimidating pose/movement with our arms instead//Why moonlight ray specifically? Aren't there denser patterns to use?
> Perform a non-spell imitation of Moonlight Ray (still using danmaku, not lethal bullets of course)
> Act like we're in a trance and be indifferent to what she's doing and observe her behavior
> Discreetly align some of the rings in Moonlight ray to so they hit our friends in the off chance this wakes them up (Its danmaku so it can't hurt em)//I doubt this would work... Plus Daiyousei and Cirno, being fairies are frail enough to be killed by danmaku.
> Be conservative with our spell and make the bullets shes unlikely to go near (like the ones spawned behind us in the rings) purely visual (no pain/collision) to save energy//Are we even skilled enough to do this? (As in, make some bullets weak and others strong at the same time?)
> Discreetly align some of the rings in Moonlight ray to so they hit our friends in the off chance this wakes them up (Don't do this if we think Elis will notice, also don't hit Cirno and Daiyousei since even danmaku can hurt them)//If we can do it without Elis noticing, then we should limit it to one ring per person or group of people, or stop doing this after the first ring if it fails. No sense in repeatedly hurting them for no reason, especially if it doesn't work. Also we should avoid hitting Mayina, considering he's weak right now and he won't be of any help to us if he wakes up.
> After our spell ends say "What did you think of that spell? Being a vampire you could probably dodge it with your eyes closed right? And its probably no match for even your weakest attacks" < Sound impressed by her dodging and try hard to flatter her//Flatter yes, but maybe we shouldn't go overboard with it? Doing it excessively might be detrimental.
Anything missing?//She expressed disappointment earlier about not being able to have a rematch with a purple haired shrine maiden. If we asked her the right questions (i,e how long ago did that purple haired miko fight her), then we could use process of elimination to point her at the Hakurei Shrine, but this would be better as a last resort as it could have unpredictable effects...
//She expressed disappointment earlier about not being able to have a rematch with a purple haired shrine maiden. If we asked her the right questions (i,e how long ago did that purple haired miko fight her), then we could use process of elimination to point her at the Hakurei Shrine, but this would be better as a last resort as it could have unpredictable effects...
//Well we still don't know for sure if she wants the Grimoire (it could be that she's looking for more than one item), just assumptions.
<Reimu stuff>
//...Unless it's like a point of no return thing, and if we miss the hint here, then we're locked into whatever bad outcome we get... That's really the only concern that's making it hard for me to fully agree right now. :sweat:
// I'm not that cruel of a GM. Even if you manage to take a really bad/foolish course of action that leads to a bad end I'll revert you to the last major checkpoint [AKA: The start of the Elis encounter].//Oh.
// Bad Ends are entirely possible mainly because I don't think I should simply over-rule bad choices, but at least RP out the result beforeusing Bites the Dust, sorry it's Friday I'm gonna watch Jojo soon I'm in Jojo moderesetting time.
// This also lets me put intentionally challengeing situations before you guys without the risk of, you know, Game Over for good.
//Well Ideally it we would manipulate the rings such that only one or two projectiles ever hit our friends. We're not going to send streams into them lol
// I agree to go ahead with Tom's grouped commands , although it would be better to hold on hitting our group ,and by Lunatic-caliber at that, with danmaku since it is stated that the spell's effect would leave once Elis is out of range(uncertain measurements) ;perhaps apart from that if a focused "Demarkation" keep away the red light's range but this is not the time and place to find out.
// A single spellcard,or imitation,won't be enough at getting attention and of course we should be wary of oncoming melee rushes. //
//Well Ideally it we would manipulate the rings such that only one or two projectiles ever hit our friends. We're not going to send streams into them lol
//We probably shouldn't say anything now since Elis is losing her patience.
??Ok :V
>Do spellcards dispel danmaku?
>Does it also work on other kinds of magic?
>What are the differences between bombs and spellcards?
//Branneg beat me to it.
//We probably shouldn't say anything now since Elis is losing her patience.
> When there is a sure opening for speaking and being on guard: " Oh what become of your previous meet-up with my "friends",Remi,Flan ,Sakuya and Koa",the first 2 are vampires as well :perhaps you ended up using this move with them as well or...?"
// About Danmaku's dispelling capabilities:we should check out in a different occasion what "Heavy Danmaku" and even " Lethal Danmaku" can accomplish in that regard //
// Last thing : aiming for Elis wand could buy more time as long as we do not underestimate her or provoke her top much //
> If the moment,and if not delay it when there is one, is a opening for speaking and with the guard up: " Oh what become of your previous meet-up with my "friends",Remi,Flan ,Sakuya and Koa",the first 2 are vampires as well :perhaps you ended up using this move with them as well or...?">Only do this when we're not faking a trance. We need to keep the act up, after all.
> If she wants a challenge she'll get one, use the Lunatic versions of our spell cards
>Do spellcards only dispel danmaku (if at all) or does it also work on other kinds of magic? Is there a difference between bombs and spellcards besides bombs not putting you in a trance?Have we tried it out,or noticed elsewhere, in that regard with "Heavy Danmaku" or even Lethal?
> Declare "Moonlight Ray L" but actually DON'T hold out the card so the spell doesn't activate just make an intimidating pose/movement with our arms instead
> Perform a non-spell imitation of Moonlight Ray L (still using danmaku, not lethal bullets of course)
> Act like we're in a trance and be indifferent to what she's doing and observe her behavior
> Discreetly align some of the rings in Moonlight Ray to miss above the treeline (Don't do this if we think Elis will notice)
> Try to be conservative with our spell and make the bullets shes unlikely to go near (like the ones spawned behind us in the rings) purely visual (no pain/collision) to save energy
> After our spell ends say "What did you think of that spell? Being a vampire you could probably dodge it with your eyes closed right? I'm guessing it was no match for even your weakest attacks" < Sound impressed by her dodging and try hard to flatter her
> If the moment,and if not delay it when there is one, is a opening for speaking and with the guard up: " Oh what become of your previous meet-up with my "friends",Remi,Flan ,Sakuya and Koa",the first 2 are vampires as well :perhaps you ended up using this move with them as well or...?"
>Sunrise status? (Don't do this if it advances time)
//Don't parse the above yet, but I do have information-related questions.
>Would it be possible, while imitating demarcation, to make it so that every third ring stops once it goes a certain distance behind Elis, before starting to move back towards us? (Hopefully you can understand what I'm describing here.)
>Or would it be possible to make the projectiles of some rings explode into smaller rings after a set distance?
>Leading on from that, what are the limits to our control over danmaku anyway?
>Parse these as they do not advance time. Don't parse anything else yet though.
//I'm thinking lull her into a false sense of security and then catch her off guard when she starts getting bored.
> Intensify Darkness and its Range to hamper&surprise :P &distract, and n this case attract attention on to us WITHOUT GETTING HER SERIOUS(FAR TOO SOON), could be 1-2 steps forward-
>But if it's possible in a spell, then would it be logically possible that we can do it in a nonspell, since if we couldn't do it to begin with we wouldn't be able to make a spellcard to begin with?
>Don't parse anything else yet as the above action doesn't advance time.
//And with that I'm heading off to bed. Hopefully I'll be able to get in my next post before work tomorrow
> Time to up our "Game" and "Entertain","Hone up" and "Smarten up"
( by ZUN ;) & Raikaria :D )
- LUNATIC -
> Moon Sign: Moonlight Ray
> Night Sign: Night Bird
> Darkness Sign: Demarcation
> Darkness Sign: Dark Side of the Moon
> Night Sign: Midnight Bird
> :3 Other(s) created byHuman Ingenuity/IngeniousnessYoukai Ingeniousness/Ingenuity and Need .
> (Please)Visualise Spellcards them in order of Skills by us and Challenge Aagainst us ,if they are not already placed so from the easiest to the most challenging.
> Alongside this "ranking" what series of tactics,strategies and duel habits have we have had experienced with,had known or had noted suitable against extremely agile&fast&high-reflexes opponents .
> Durations & Variations (Thanks a whole lot!) & Feasibility of joining and/or combining with Darkness Sphere and overall Manipulation of Darkness(and indirectly Light to an extent).
> Intensify Darkness and its Range to hamper&surprise :P &distract, and n this case attract attention on to us WITHOUT GETTING HER SERIOUS(FAR TOO SOON), could be 1-2 steps forward-
> Her Star Wand,how is she moving it and what seems her favorite handling;even right now?
>But since we're not obligated to abide by the rules since Elis is from Makai and not abiding by them anyway, would such modifications to our fake spellcard be possible?
>So if we make some rings change direction or make rings explode into more rings it would somehow make every bullet in the pattern hurt less as a result......??? How does that make any sense?
(the latter is at least somewhat understandable as it increases the pattern density, but the logic simply doesn't make sense for situations like changing projectile paths or directions that don't affect bullet strength or density at all.)
> It's a limitation of the spellcard rules. Outside of the spellcard rules there's no difference between 'nonspells' and 'spells'. Otherwise people like Marisa cou// Sorry,I should have specified "approximate duration by Rumia's experience;this is also doable,and more useful overall ,by reading Spellcards(or Part of that Spellcard if "imitated" or if it is a combination part similar/very similar ) Descriptive enough
> I'm not giving durations, especially for the StB spells [Which also don't have difficulties]
>...
>So ultimately, after much dancing around the question, does this, therefore, mean that IT IS POSSIBLE to make every third ring or so in our fake pattern stop after a set distance before moving back towards us?
>Furthermore, do you mean that changing even a single a bullet path will cause random bullets in the pattern to immediately die off to lower the density as you say????
> Specifically will making the arc bullets more complex reduce their number or will it affect different parts of the spell like the rings?
>Another thing:
>>Will speeding up the frequency of attacks (maintaining the same bullet power and density per attack) affect either? Would it be possible to "speed up" an otherwise "identical" fake spellcard as it gets closer to "timing out"?
// Are we going towards a :o "De Bello Danmakum"(De Bello Gallicum)? :o //
> Actually have we ever tried or witnessed bullets of the same kind or highly similar converging in the same Paths and increasing in "density" or have some sort of "Surge" or do they simply phase through each other ?
> How about,of the same kind or highly similar, Lasers used like that or "feeding " Bullets into our Laser(s) or viceversa?
> As far as you are aware, they just phase through each other. Although the idea of bullets that collide and merge isn't out of possibility.
> The beams just cross and do nothing. You imagine you'd have to practice quite a lot to develop a danmaku that acts like this.
// Consolidated all agreed upon actions for parser>I cast my vote in favor of this.
"I can imagine fighting another vampire was interesting, but they were probably no match for the greatest vampire" < More flattery!
> "Its not a strong attack you're right, I thought the lasers might impress you considering very few low level youkai like me can use them"
> Fake declare Darkness Sign "Demarcation" L
> Make a small modification to the pattern: Make every third ring reverse in direction some distance past Elis in order to surprise her with the bullets from behind
> After spell:
>> "So Elis you managed to get in to Gensokyo, how do you plan on getting back to Makai?"
>>Ask in a little more about the encounter with SDM, her Standing in Makai and her Great Talent and Application in "Transiting and Materialisation"
> If make all bullets in an attack purely visual (weaker than danmaku) how many more could we spawn?
// Consolidated all agreed upon actions for parser
"I can imagine fighting another vampire was interesting, but they were probably no match for the greatest vampire" < More flattery!
> "Its not a strong attack you're right, I thought the lasers might impress you considering very few low level youkai like me can use them"
> Fake declare Darkness Sign "Demarcation" L
> Make a small modification to the pattern: Make every third ring reverse in direction some distance past Elis in order to surprise her with the bullets from behind
> After spell:
>> "So Elis you managed to get in to Gensokyo, how do you plan on getting back to Makai?"
>>Ask in a little more about the encounter with SDM, her Standing in Makai and her Great Talent and Application in "Transiting and Materialisation"
> If make all bullets in an attack purely visual (weaker than danmaku) how many more could we spawn?
// I approve>The barrier, not the spellcard.
// Before Evil_Nazgul0616's actions
> Immediately cast demarcation on whoever is behind us so they don't get caught in another illusion attack, make the sphere as large as we can without losing density
// I approve
// Before Evil_Nazgul0616's actions
> Immediately cast demarcation on whoever is behind us so they don't get caught in another illusion attack, make the sphere as large as we can without losing density
> Take a few steps back so we are next to whoever is behind us (inside the demarcation sphere)
> Whisper "Stay in the darkness sphere or she'll knock you out with an illusion like she did to my friends"
>The barrier, not the spellcard.
>Also we should probably warn them before we do so if possible, because they are right next to us and armed with knives, after all...
//Well then.
>Is the sun up yet?
>Don't parse the following without approval.
>Don't let our guard down. No way Elis will go down that easily if she's as powerful as she claims.
>"Miss Sakuya? Is that you?"
> Drool a little at the scent of blood
> Ignore any Youkai killing instincts we might be getting
> Hold the watch like she's telling us to
>Look a little concerned at Sakuya's physical state.
>Do we know any healers?
> Wait for Sakuya to signal us>Actually how accurate are we at throwing?
> In the mean time inspect watch
> Wait for Sakuya to signal us
> In the mean time inspect watch
>Actually how accurate are we at throwing?
> "I still have moves to show you!">Don't do this
> Fake declare Darkness Sign "Dark Side of the Moon" (Defensive card with longest timer)
> Be on he lookout for Sakuya signaling us, throw pocket watch when she does so
> "I still have moves to show you!"
> Fake declare Night Sign "Night Bird"
> Be on he lookout for Sakuya signaling us, throw pocket watch when she does so
> Going from what Sakuya said before; you'd wager you only need hold out for maybe sixty seconds more.>What exactly did she say that implied we had to wait for exactly 60 seconds?
>What exactly did she say that implied we had to wait for exactly 60 seconds?
> Look her in the eye and say "I won't give up!"//[EDITED] (Thanks to Raikaria's reminder :) ) That's right!Friendly fire does not apply in regular Danmaku Duels![EDITED].
> Fake declare Night Sign "Midnight Bird"
> Go all out on this one, leave ourselves just enough energy for actually declaring "Dark Side of the Moon"
> Stall as long as we can and wait for Sakuya to signal us
> If Sakuya does not signal us to throw the pocket watch in time and Elis is about to defeat us, click the buttons on it in desperation and hope it does something, if that fails throw it at her even if she didn't signal us. If it looks like Sakuya is not going to catch it, correct the trajectory using barriers. Oh and form a barrier around ourselves to block Elis' strike
// Lethal bullets take more energy and will make our pattern less dense, she'll avoid it all anyways so it's pointless
// Can we still create non lethal bullets while not following the spell card rules? (Like the "impossible" patterns in ISC?)
Just adressing this; using actual magic bullets is against the spellcard rules. It's the spellcard rules which limit your 'nonspells'. [A nonspell can't be stronger than a spell in the spellcard rules]
You can use your full power whenever if you're not going to follow the rules. It *will* drain you faster since obviously it's easier to create dummy bullets than ones that can kill youkai and such, but it won't make your patterns weaker. There are exceptions in energy consumption; such as weapon-based attacks that use less energy outside of the spellcard rules because you're not materializing anything... you're just attacking with your weapon. It's easier for Sakuya to throw real knives than make phantom ones and throw those.
Also danmaku dosen't do friendly fire. [See: Primsrivers; Toyosatomimi; and other team fights; even the fighting games like Kokoro's final boss fight in HM] So you wont need to worry about Sakuya. Real attacks do friendly fire.
> When not using spellcards,do we have a trade-off in a significant boost in mobility,reaction time and more readiness in projecting barriers?
> Look her in the eye and say "I won't give up!"
> Fake declare Night Sign "Midnight Bird"
> Try and go all out, leave just enough energy to cast the spell card Dark Side of the Moon
> Stall as long as we can and wait for Sakuya to signal us
> If we see Sakuya with her good arm free (not holding knife) throw the pocket watch
> If Sakuya does not signal us to throw the pocket watch in time and Elis is about to defeat us, click the buttons on it in desperation and hope it does something, if that fails throw it at her even if she didn't signal us. If it looks like Sakuya is not going to catch it, correct the trajectory using barriers. Oh and form a barrier around ourselves to block Elis' strike
> Throw the pocket watch at Sakuya's good hand!
> If Sakuya fails to catch it catch with a barrier for her to pick it up
> Surround ourselves in multiple stacked demarcation barriers
> Keep up Midnight Bird
// Add quest "Impossible fights require Impossible Spellcards: Obtain/Create Impossible Spellcards" <- We'll need these if we want to continue dealing with Makaians without risking killing them
(Do not advance time)
> What were we planning to do once Rumia threw us the watch?
> Abilities/Skills/Inventory that we can use during time-stop
> Do we know sealing magic?
> Can we steal her wand while time is stopped?
> Can we move Elis around while time is stopped?
>How is our mistress? Is she okay, or is she in better/ worse condition than us?
//Out doing errands at the moment
> Conjure all the knives we can and place them so she gets stabbed the moment time resumes, so she has knives to deal with in addition to the sunshine
> See if we can slide her wand out of her grip, this shouldn't be too hard if it doesn't have any bends and is a straight line
> Spawn a knife that will strike the wand on the star (aim to knock it out of her hand)
// Once we regain control of Rumia>If Elis starts to break through the stacked barriers, break and give players a command opportunity.
> Quickly fly up to dodge any attacks
> Upon realizing Elis is in the sunshine trap her in as many stacked physical (not darkness!) barriers (barrier inside barrier) as we can spawn
> Save our energy for possible revenge attacks, resume the normal flow of time
> Before resuming time move to a slightly different position in case she was going to attack us based on our last position (that she remembers)
// Once we regain control of Rumia
> Quickly fly up to dodge any attacks
> Upon realizing Elis is in the sunshine trap her in as many stacked physical (not darkness!) barriers (barrier inside barrier) as we can spawn
// lunch break
>If Elis starts to break through the stacked barriers, break and give players a command opportunity.
//I don't want to auto commit to a spellcard if she breaks out yet, just in case it's either unnecessary or whatever comes from this would make a trance risky.
>Are we on the ground or in the sky?
>How is our darkness sphere interacting with the sunlight?
>What is Sakuya doing now?
//Only parse those actions that don't advance time.
> Don't do the following if it looks like Elis is about to die from the sunlight
> Fly up as fast as we can and declare (for real this time) "Dark Side of the Moon" once we're far up enough so that she gets trapped in the sunlight by the bounded field of the spell card rules
> If we have any control over our movement during the spell, put all our effort into moving upward
> If Elis looks like shes going to die from the sunlight just shoot at her with all the danmaku we got, all aimed bullets and rapid fire our six lasers
// I'm all outta ideas on how to deal with Elis
> Are our friends in the sunlight? Alice's house is in a clearing in the Forest of Magic isn't it?
> Is the roof of Alice's house in the sunlight?
> Can someone lie on the roof without sliding off?
> Stay in the sunlight
> Quickly pick up Alice (with her grimoire) and put her on the roof in the sunlight so Elis can't get to her, if she looks like shes gonna slide off move her to the top of the roof>Don't do this yet.
> Be ready to dodge any attacks
> Quickly pick up Alice (with her grimoire) and put her on the roof in the sunlight so Elis can't get to her, if she looks like shes gonna slide off move her to the top of the roof
> Be ready to dodge any attacks
>Don't do this yet.
>Instead: Are we even close enough to Alice and our friends to do so? Elis CAN outspeed us after all
// I suggest it is best to let Elis go while remaining in the sunlight with our guard up ,though this does not exclude further" surprises. //
> Keep our guard up and our eyes peeled for the direction Elis is heading to.
> Memorize it through The Compass when it is possible.
> Speak to Sakuya : " If that is all we could do,how about we all recover a little with some protection ? "
> Cast barriers in the space between the outer edge of the forest where she is fleeing to and the clearing in case she decides for a last-ditch attack .
> Quickly fly closer to Alice and next to Sakuya unless Elis is taking up particular actions.
> Our barriers can't hold Elis so don't waste energy on it
>"Miss Sakuya, will you be able to get down to the clearing on your own?"
>Look concerned, but remain wary of Elis.
trying to save us">Leave this part out.
>"That vampire from earlier knocked you all out with an illusion and wanted me to 'play' with her... She didn't take anything or hurt anyone from our group, but... D-Does anyone know a healer? Miss Sakuya is really hurt... I doubt she should even be conscious right now..."
>"H-Hang in there, okay, Miss Sakuya?"
> Make a large demarcation barrier around everyone in case Elis tries to strike back
> Try and wake up Alice, shake her if needed
> When she wakes up "Do you know any healing magic? Sakuya here got hurt really bad trying to help us"
// Sidequest add: Plot revenge against Elis
> Murmur "Don't expect the leniency Mayina saw when I tell Yumeko who's after the grimoire"
> "If we're safe during the day, is it possible to freeze the day to delay nightfall? We remember an incident where it was night for a really long time, so maybe the opposite is possible too. It's not like we'll be doing something bad, since we'll be causing an incident to solve another"
>Wasn't Mayina 's old employer supposedly someone on the council?
> "Sleeping pills? You don't suppose she also hasanabolic steroidsstrength pills?!" Confused look
> "If we're safe during the day, is it possible to freeze the day to delay nightfall? We remember an incident where it was night for a really long time, so maybe the opposite is possible too. It's not like we'll be doing something bad, since we'll be causing an incident to solve another"
> "Since Elis likely won't know where we are she'll likely come back to your house to look for you, what if we set up a trap where opening the door sets off a giant explosion"
> "You likely know that I have a ... sensitive taste for meat, and normally had I seen a human in Sakuya's condition I would've had a hard time resisting my ... Youkai Instincts but she not even appetizing, something about her is off"
> "So I seriously doubt Sakuya is human"
> "Yumeko also told us to make sure no one gets your grimoire, why would these troublemakers be after it?"
//So Sakuya is a cyborg?
>"On the council, huh... Well Mayina's former employer was supposedly somewhere high up in Makai's hierarchy, possibly on the council... He never knew who it was, though. Do you think it could've been her?"
> Make sure Sakuya hasn't dropped anything (watch or knives), pick them up if so
>"Let's go everyone."
>If Mayina starts falling behind, try to keep pace with him.
> If everyone is flying turn to Mayina with our hands open
> "Time is of essence now since we'll be vulnerable past sunset"
> "So may I?"
> Offer to carry him
> Look confused at how Mayina gripped our wrist
> Quickly pick him up in the least uncomfortable way we can
> Follow Alice
> Whisper "If you feel too embarrassed just says so and I'll fly low so no one sees us"
> "A-and don't get the wrong idea, I'm only doing this because we're in a hurry"
> Follow and keep up with Alice
> "G-good to know we're on the s-same page"
> "So where is this place?"
> Stay close to Alice and keep going
> "What happens if you try and fly over it?"
> "Ah I get it now"
> Continue into the Bamboo Forest
> "I think its best we hover instead of walking, if those rabbits like to mess with people like Alice said there might be traps on the ground"
> Hover instead of walking
> Summon our compass barrier, align the + with the rising sun and mark the location of where we entered the bamboo forest with a tiny darkness sphere
> Be in the lookout for bunnies
> "So Alice, I noticed back at your house that the dolls wouldn't move while you were unconscious, why is that?"
> "My abilities are useful for surprises">"Speaking of... Hey, Kogasa, if she agrees to wanting to prank and surprise people, would you like to tag along? I did say I'd help you improve, after all."
> "Thank you!"
> "Maybe some other time we can pull some pranks together on villagers that stray too far from town!"
> Make it pitch black around us
> "My abilities are useful for surprises"
> Restore our darkness to it's normal level
> Turn to Alice
> "How do those strings work? Can they only control dolls or could they also control living things?"
> "Also isn't it difficult to keep track of and control all of them at the same time? Wouldn't it be nicer if you made an 'automatic' doll?"
>"Speaking of... Hey, Kogasa, if she agrees to wanting to prank and surprise people, would you like to tag along? I did say I'd help you improve, after all."
>Smile.
> Tewi looks at you mockingly.
> "You stand out like a sore thumb like that." she says. "Anyway; I can't go too far from here often. I run things in this forest. I'm the boss of all the rabbits. I have better things to do than mess with some random humans outside here."
> The rabbit dosen't *seem* like some powerful boss, but she dosen't seem to show anything that would indicate she's lying either.
> Kogasa nods, and bobs her umbrella up and down.
> "They're precise, and so is the magic that guides them." Alice says. "That and practice. I'd need to practise to use the strings on a living being however. I'd need to get used to their size; mass, how they move... even then they would have to surrender themselves to me."
> "An autonomous doll is my ultimate goal." Alice states simply. "A living doll; one that moves, thinks and has it's own will. Maybe when I've accomplished that..."
> Alice shakes her head. "I'm talking too much. None of that is your concern..."
> Playful wink.
> Mention we have " managed" perfect see-through of our Darkness if it is at least hinted.
>"An autonomous doll huh? Sounds interesting... Do you think learning how to use strings on a living being will help you with that?"
> Look at Tewi
> "Sure but that's a good thing! Everyone expects the Youkai of Darkness whenever they see a pitch black sphere midday, they wont expect you or Kogasa to be in that sphere!"
> Temporarily make a Demarcation Sphere around Kogasa while we say this
> "Or maybe a betting game! I can make several of these spheres and they have to guess in which one I am! If there's 3 spheres and there's only one of me the odds are in our favor!"
//(Innocently belayed and over-written ) ClapsClaps for winning,even with that " Continue Used through Flaming Pursuit",the1st Part of a True Main Boss (VS) Elis ....For her as a Vampire, after "hopefully calming and collaborating threads and events", (along Remilia,Flandre,Kurumi,maybe Vampire OCs mentioned?) Darkness (Shieldings???) Sphere&Barriers&Manipulation(esp. when Reinedup,Unseaed,Greater) would be good for Relations,Negotiations,Team-Ups // ,
> Any action/command or part of them,if they do, Tewi's Healing Glow and Aid to Sakuya must be postponed or adapted. Rumia's voice and movements must be soft ,no high-pitch unless emergencies.
> Smile to Tewi : Ahah yes,the pitch black might alert and stick out when it is light time it might also be curious ...
> Playful wink.
> ...It would be a good curious not far from the Bamboo Forest for I do ybest past sunsets AND ! even whole days of (//Canon)//) New Moon (// "Dark Moon"if Rumia has yet to learn it// )for Pranks and Meetings and Fun , with limits,especially if people in bad shapes or helping ... All the better if planned some or more with a team or pairs or...!
> Playful wink.
> Mention we have " managed" perfect see-through of our Darkness if it is at least hinted.
> They expects a Little Youkai of Darkness and Dusk ,by the way my name is Rumia,we are happy to meet you ,Iand my friends along who are...That is so, first is the caring for Miss Sakuya and then listen to her story after-recovery!
> Look in thought to Alice after listening for Tewi's answer,for comments related or not,First Aid comes 1 : Alice,go on as much as you like,it sounds intereseting and useful ... Autonomous Doll without strings and on willing living beings ... We might truly find a chance to help you without fuss and tattle ,if you'd like and tell us how, with the journeys and "newness"we could be in in the future.
> Add "Alice's Aid - Living Doll - (// or better names//) Quest ".
> Add " Otherworlds Journeys&Possibilities Quest ".
// About "Journeys&Possibilities",we could highlight the "Paradise" Alice mentioned,and known a bit by Mayna and Makaiwns for starters, around Eientei.
> Do not mention this, no one (other than our close friends need to know)
> Also lets be discrete and not mention that Alice is from Makai or that she is Shinki's daughter (Everyone knows her as a magician puppeteer from the Forest of Magic)
> "Well I've never seen an autonomous doll before so you would be the first person to ever make one! The way you talk about it also makes it seem like it's been a lifelong dream of yours, which is why I want to help!"
> Maybe full size spheres are too big
> "That would work but once they learn which rabbit is which they'll win every time"
> Try putting our compass in a small darkness barrier and make 2 more similar similar sized ones
> "This way it's impossible for someone really smart to predict which one has the object, so the game is based on luck"
>"Yeah, but wouldn't knowing how to move and control one give you a feel for how a living being should feel so it could be copied easier in a doll?"
>"Alright. Lead the way, then."
>Make sure everyone is accounted for first.
> You ensure everyone is accounted for; and note Mayina lurking around, attempting to be as hard to spot as he can.// How much do we want to say around that right now?//
> You follow the rabbit indoors, and immediately can tell the building is far larger on the inside; a web of corridors and sliding doors. Yet the rabbit guides you without hesitation.
> Eventually you reach a room and she stops; sticking her head in, and then out.
> "Master is not yet ready. Although; I must say, I've fought Sakuya before. It must have been something pretty serious to have done that to her." the rabbit says.
> "Well lets wait for your master then"
> "So Alice maybe you could start with simple things like making them walk in a straight line on their own, then give them the ability to avoid obstacles, then possibly have them automatically follow you and so on eventually to the point where they can learn actions on their own. I think that with enough small automatic actions, the interactions between those actions and the ability to create new actions they could eventually become fully autonomous"
> "I'll help you any way I can"
// How much do we want to say around that right now?//
> (before talking to Alice) To "Miss Tall Lunar Rabbit smile :" Well,seeing how unexpected we all came and miss Sakuya is,you and your Master seem quite prepared, thanks to both miss Tall Lunar Rabbit ! And to Tewi as well!
> Wavering smile :Ah...About miss Sakuya... She could have avoided some of it if she didn't step in to help in me in rescuing our group from a raid ... It was a new very strong foe outside of Genskoyo and Spellcard Rules,although she held back most of the time for her amusement.
>If we're good at communicating nonverbally, give Wriggle and Kogasa a look that says "make sure Mayina stays out of trouble."
>Follow.
>Say helpful things to the doctor every single time she needs to do something (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-4n6-Gkdu8&feature=youtu.be&t=302).
> Look at Alice
> "Well I want to create things too, though not as ambitious as you're trying to make, which is why I want to help"
> Dip our hands fully in the bowl
> "What is this stuff?"
> Smell our hands
> "Ready"
> Hand over to Eirin what she asks for
> Pay close attention to the procedure Eirin is doing and the try and learn what tools she's using, first aid skills are always useful!
>Let's not imply that we actually tasted her when we didn't.
> "Huh that's probavly why she's not ... appetizing"
> "Being a Youkai I still have a taste for meat even though I don't practice hunting anymore"
// Did Alice ignore our response or was it a GM oversight
> Find the silver thread and give it to Eirin
> Find the vial of human blood that says AN
> Find the vial of lunarian blood
> Pass them over to Eirin
> "What could have made her wounds burst outward? Lethal bullet hits? Laser burns?"
> "Huh that's probably why her scent wasn't ... appetizing"
> "Being a Youkai I still have a taste for meat even though I don't practice hunting anymore"
> Notice the dolls applying pressure
> "I can also form barriers that can apply some amount of pressure if it's useful"
//Whelp so much for editing in my actual commands. :V
>Do it.
> Visually inspect tray while we're at it
>"What's the goo for?"
//Will be at work until 10 pm mdt
> "Is that ... replacement meat?"
> "Is she really that bad?"
> "I want to ask you about my eye sight when you have time">Don't say this
> "Ahh that's really useful"
> Get anything else Eirin needs
// My actions were basically 'just keep going', Eirin probably just ignored us cause she has nothing to say
> Wait until Eirin finishes, get any other items she might need
> "Should she be awake for this?">Only say this if she's somehow still conscious.
> Wait for Udonge to get the bamboo
> "What are we going to do?"
> Look at Sakuya
> "Should she be awake for this?"
// I assume Rumia can't be grossed by anything, shes eaten people for all we know
> Pull Sakuya's arm outward in the direction Eirin points, start by applying only a small amount of force and start increasing it until we can move her arm
> Once the bone starts moving pull it outward then move it sideways until its aligned, once its aligned wait for Undonge and Alice's dolls to finish before gradually releasing force
//Will be at work until 10 pm MDT
>Make sure we don't pull hard enough to rip her arm off
> "It's a magical poultice." the rabbit explains as Eirin moves onto the next wound with the thread. "It greatly accelerates natural recovery. It's basically like food for the cells and makes them speed up healing. It also contains some stem cells that can adapt and replace anything that needs that."
> You can see the wound that was filled with the goo closing up slowly, as if it is regenerating. It's not fast like Elis' healing was, but you can still see it progessing.
> "Sure, come to think of it we haven't really had a moment to rest since this all started..."
> Follow Eirin
> "Oooh !Is that the same magical poultice you kept treating Akyuu with when she was out and about that Search&Brawl&... Tourney :D ( "Akyuu Quest " by Fighest )
// This recommendation could be a bit hasty or useless , but better safe than sorry and better focused than sidetracked . //
> " Thanks .... Ah! it is best to remember this,that we should have someone go tell the whereabouts of Miss Sakuya and the good news about her being in good care to the Scarlet Devil Mansion . "
> " Especially to Miss Remilia since both her and Miss Sakuya,who was very intent in helping her,were struck hard as well and yet miss Sakuya not only pulled through in seeking out that very same Makai Invader, helping me,we helped each other,and my friends,including Alice, out of a pickle with her. "
// It would be best be prudent and reveal only the bare necessary, a need for particular explaination arise and even then every character is free to complement ,referring to Elis,her being a GreaterMakai Vampire,Alice&Grimoire,her connections with Makai&Shinki until the characters involved give some form of approval or the info is necessary to get an important help/clue..Certainly it is clear we should be more open about Rumia's&Group interactions with Makai but at the same time we should still be vague about Shinki to respect her wish to be known little by little until the right time or an emergency.//
>Bow
>"I didn't expect to meet a princess!"
//DeLurk Mayina
> Introduce our group and ourselves to her
>"It's nice to meet you, your highness."
> Address any fears they have by explaining he's with us:
> "He's with us and no longer part of the incident. In fact he's Gensokyo's newest resident"
> "I'm sure you all have questions about this incident, so shall we begin?"
> "Though first we'd like to know if you've been involved at all up to this point and if so on who's side"
> If Mayina interrupts at all when anyone else is talking give him our Youkai Red Eye Death Glare. He should only talk when addressed to
> "The incident started when phantom figures started appearing and attacking people and we as Youkai decided to take initiative and start investigating on our own. We've been able to trace the culprits back to Makai after being attacked by Mayina. However it is important to note that not all of Makai is at fault, since he was hired by a small heretic faction within Makai">"Oh, and no need to worry about him. His contract with his previous master has been voided, so he's no longer against us in that respect."
>"It was a powerful vampire from Makai with a star shaped mark on her cheek. Be careful if you see her, she's definitely still out there. If it wasn't for the sunrise driving her away, I don't know what would've happened to all of us."
> "In fact we wanted to talk about that, since the sunlight is the only thing we know that can hurt her. We all remember the incident a few years ago where the night was frozen so we were wondering if they day could also be frozen. She is very dangerous to Gensokyo as she refuses to use the spell card rules"
> "The incident started when phantom figures started appearing and attacking people and we as Youkai decided to take initiative and start investigating on our own. We've been able to trace the culprits back to Makai after being attacked by Mayina. However it is important to note that not all of Makai is at fault, since he was hired by a small heretic faction within Makai"
> "In fact we wanted to talk about that, since the sunlight is the only thing we know that can hurt her. We all remember the incident a few years ago where the night was frozen so we were wondering if they day could also be frozen. She is very dangerous to Gensokyo as she refuses to use the spell card rules"
> "The incident started when phantom figures started appearing and attacking people and we as Youkai decided to take initiative and start investigating on our own. We've been able to trace the culprits back to Makai after being attacked by Mayina. However it is important to note that not all of Makai is at fault, since he was hired by a small heretic faction within Makai"
>"Oh, and no need to worry about him. His contract with his previous master has been voided, so he's no longer against us in that respect."
>Only parse if another player approves of this wording.
> Give Eirin our fake mana crystal>This is the modified pentle, not the untouched pentle, correct?
>"Full of magic and miasma. The miasma's actually so toxic that I needed to wear some kind of magic bubble helmet."
>Wait for approval.
> Approved
> "I'm hoping that after we resolve this incident the restrictions on traveling between Makai and Gensokyo could be relaxed. So if we succeed perhaps you too can visit. I'm sure lady Eirin would find a lot of things to study or experiment with that can't be found in any other world"
> "This will be of more use to your research than to me"
> Give Eirin our fake mana crystal
> "Perhaps you can learn more about how to treat daemon ailments from it? I trust you'll use your research to do good to all"
>This is the modified pentle, not the untouched pentle, correct?
>Otherwise don't do this or related actions.
>"Relax, Mayina. It's just tea."
> If our tea isn't too hot drink some to show Mayina it's safe
> "The toxic air doesn't leak out of portals, so there is no need to worry. Besides the miasma is useful if you manage to learn how to use it"
> "The toxic air doesn't leak out of portals, so there is no need to worry. Besides the miasma is useful if you manage to learn how to use it">Don't say this because we know it leaks from what we saw with Mayina portal.
// It doesn't leak from the main portal so don't correct it>Not yet.
> "Maybe you have something to sweeten the tea for him?"
> "Well we want to prove that Youkai too can solve incidents and don't just cause them"
>Don't say this because we know it leaks from what we saw with Mayina portal.
//Dammit ninja' d
>Can We retroactively do this since the post literally just happened?
>Assuming both parser and Tom are okay with it of course
// It doesn't leak from the main portal so don't correct it
> "Maybe you have something to sweeten the tea for him?"
> "Well we want to prove that Youkai too can solve incidents and maybe even in a better way than just beating everyone up like the current incident investigators"
> "I'm sure you played your part"
> "Try it Mayina, perhaps the more you have the more you'll like it"
> "Come on if you finish it I'll make sure to find you my favorite food later"
> Realize what we said and what everyone associates with us
> Smile and say "Steaks I mean"
> Add "Perhaps you could take a look at it?">Let's not. We trust them, but we shouldn't let them tamper with it willy-nilly...
>"Honestly, that's what I want to know. I was told this seal was 'remarkably cruel' and that it has many layers. A kind goddess was able to remove a small part of it, but I want to figure out why I was sealed before I let her tamper with it some more."
// We trust them but we should still be discreet concerning Shinki's involvement in affairs as far as everyone else is concerned she hasn't been seen for a long time and doesn't take action on almost anything
> Leave out the part of Shinki having removed a part of it. Instead say "I want to figure out why it's there before I consider removing it"
> Add "Perhaps you could take a look at it? I don't remember how I got it so whatever happened seems to have affected my mind"
>Let's not. We trust them, but we shouldn't let them tamper with it willy-nilly...
// We said look, a diagnosis is what we want. Treatment is decided after the diagnosis of the problem. We wont ever find out anything about our seal if we dont ask and Eirin is probably the smartest in Gensokyo. Besides Eirin shall do no harm
> Change to "Perhaps you could take a look at it? A medical or scientific opinion of it would be nice. I don't remember how I got it so whatever happened seems to have affected my mind"
> "Sure as long as you don't try removing it since it's integrated into my body and removing it improperly or too fast will harm me"
//on break for 15 minutes.
>"These tests won't cause any chain reactions that would cause the seal to fail, right? As I said I would rather find out why it's there before I consider having it removed..."
> Then let's proceed
> We haven't ever had blood samples drawn right?
> If so ask how it's done and follow her instructions
// If this could result in imprudence please remove parts as seem fit,thanks (Happy Holiest EASTER ! ;) :) ) //
> Add : " Oh-oh,Another interesting fact to help up this study : after confirming it a sealing amulet,it has been found out to not be weaved in one piece as seeming but it is in fact made up of countless different layers seamlessly intertwined with each other eventually needing an ultra-precise unsealing one by one ! "
> " Truly a fancy and stubborn little thing,uh ! "
> Add "Its likely the most complicated seal in existence"
> "Interesting, if you move it away from the light does the liquid darkness come back?"
> "Does my darkness rather absorb light or emit darkness?"
> "So you're saying that I'm the embodiment of darkness?"
> "Have you seen similar effects in other Youkai before?"
>"It's fine. Though I'd rather keep my limbs attached to me if possible."
> Look at Mayina "Is an Elemental out of darkness beyond mage's capabilities? Can it be that darkness isn't an element but rather an absence of all elements?"
> "But then again I'm Youkai so things most likely are different considering not much is known about how Youkai come to be"
> "Would my blood be harmful or lethal if it were inside someone else?"
> "Eirin you can have some more if you have more tests to run. Maybe you can find a way to replicate or grow the blood so you have more to work with"
> "Wait if darkness doesn't age does that mean I'll live a really long time even for a Youkai?"
> Look at Mayina "Isn't there darkness in everything though? Like inside the floor where the light fails to penetrate? Or inside any object for that matter" // The Rumia theory of relativity
> "Would my blood be more harmful than someone else's though? Like could it kill a vampire if they fed on me? Or someone else if they ingested it"
> Look at Mayina and Eirin "We can't go inside a floor tile and neither can light, so it *has* to be dark inside"
> "Another thing I wanted to ask about is how does my night vision see through the pitch black darkness I create? Like Mayina was encased in ice a while ago and when I made it pitch black around me the ice became near transparent and everything else turned to different shades of purple"
> "I'm also trying to find out if it's different from the night vision of other Youkai considering I'm more related to darkness and night"
> Make it pitch black around us and describe what we see, noting things that become invisible and especially previously invisible things that become visible
> "Does that mean a warm blooded creature like a human would be extra visible in the night for bird Youkai?"
> "Are there any things that are only visible in Ultraviolet?"
> "That explains why you were the best of all of us at hunting, Mystia"
> In lower voice "And since I can create darkness at any time of the day ..."
> Aha moment once we realize why our night vision combined with our ability to create darkness could have been why our night sight was sealed
> Were we that bad that someone had to seal us? No other Youkai we know was sealed and they all hunted too...
> Feel a little uncomfortable thinking about what we could possibly have done to be sealed with one of the most complex seals that exists...
> "Do you think it's possible to make a laser that's ultraviolet? I can already create certain kinds of unique lasers like a darkness laser"
> Demonstrate by forming a harmless darkness laser between our two hands
// Are you sure you don't have IR and UV mixed up? Since hot things emit more IR than UV, and the "things not found in Gensokyo" I assume Eirin means things like TV remote controls and Wiimotes which emit IR beams to exchange data and track position. Whereas blood and other body fluids can be seen in UV, which surely exist in Gensokyo. Also all mass emits IR as long as its above absolute zero so it makes sense to be able to see in pitch black darkness with IR since just by existing things emit IR
> Look at Mayina and Eirin "We can't go inside a floor tile and neither can light, so it *has* to be dark inside"// " Demarcation from(Various Sprectrums of)Light to (Refractions with)Darkness ! "//
> "Another thing I wanted to ask about is how does my night vision see through the pitch black darkness I create? Like Mayina was encased in ice a while ago and when I made it pitch black around me the ice became near transparent and everything else turned to different
> Make it pitch black around us and describe what we see, noting things that become invisible and especially previously invisible things that become visible
// Alright, something interesting you can do is use your phone's camera to see bright IR, point a TV remote to your phone's camera and see what you see when you press the power button
> "Well anythings allowed when your opponent isn't following the spell card rules either, so invisible lasers would be a great for fightingand getting a tan"
> "Thank you for helping, I haven't been able to figure out much about my seal on my own"
> "Is there anything else I can do to help you find out more about it?"
// " Demarcation from(Various Sprectrums of)Light to (Refractions with)Darkness ! "//
> Before or at the same time of Tom's
>" True,I shall only use it for real troubles if I can manage,and by all this I am now considering a shadowy,darkness or demarcation laser ...if it is more possible ?
> Try those three types in a danmaku form in our hands,not firing any and hands away from everyone and also everything fragile.
>After Special Rumia Lasers are tried and suggestions are neatly over,darken inch by inch,then moderately faster,in addition to very visible,near invisible,note&describe&try focusing on anything else which ,for now,is appearing new or abnormal .
> " Ah-ah, Demarcation from Light&Heat to Shadow&Darkness&Cooler. "
// (We already know how to make darkness/demarcation lasers)
> "I completely agree, with lasers being my favorite shots but when fighting these daemons and vampires staying alive is all that matters"
> "I understand, I wouldn't want to do something harmful anyways"
> "Do you know any way for me to get stronger before removing the seal? Like the seal affects my pre-existing power but how can I acquire new strength in order to solve this incident? Maybe external strength like faith?"
> "Because I'm having a lot of difficulty keeping up with those that attack us"
> "Are you sure gathering faith won't be of help?"
> "Don't worry we'll find Chen and miss Yakumo"
> "And if not I'm sure we'll run into them eventually considering we're in an incident"
> "If she's really a cat Youkai will the smell of fish cooking lure her out?"
> "Do you think miss Yakumo will also want to help resolve the incident?"
//Just want to put it out there that I want Shinki to be the one we work with for undoing the seal when the time comes.
>"I'll consider it..."
> Were we that bad that someone had to seal us? No other Youkai we know was sealed and they all hunted too...> Ponder for a bit and try to remember,remember to do this whenever we feel something resurfacing and we are ready.
> Feel a little uncomfortable thinking about what we could possibly have done to be sealed with one of the most complex seals that exists...
> "Happy to hear Reimu actually has friends"
> "Thanks for the tip, we'll keel an eye out for her but will keep investigating if something important pops up"
> Finish up our tea (if we still have any)
> How's Mayina doing with his tea?
//At work till 10 pm
//Have something I want to say. Can't right now. Mind waiting for me? Will try to post on break
//Edit:
>"Close to Reimu, huh? Sounds scary... is this Yakumo person just as scary or scarier?"
>Shudder at the thought of two people like Reimu.
> Ponder for a bit and try to remember,remember to do this whenever we feel something resurfacing and we are ready.
:wikipedia: ;) > Then (//details the Darkness Sphere&Sight Safe Experimenting by Tom's and in mine posts//) with a sweet smile to Kogasa,Eirin and Kaguya : " In someways I always felt occasionally curios for I sensed being held back not by my own while the ribbon-seal rustled,unmovable and mysterious,but now I truly feel a bit relieved and surely prudent ,so I really-really would like to watch and note what I can see and make out best and worst by new-sight,just around this grouping area,by a Larger-Powerful Darkness Sphere and then vary it with Smaller Sizes-Power."
> Do so when allowed and following that good counsel of the Eientei Hosts.
> Are we sure that we can make enough variants by Form,by Danmaku Combinations,by Power?Are all from Demarcation,Shadow,Darkness Lasers,In-Between covered?"If So" us practice at the right and fruitful time,like before and not that much beyond sun-down ,with the as right as feasible opponents or partners, and "In Any Case " start thinking&looking for "right training&opportunis"for the future in More Complex&Beautiful Spellcards and Patterns .
> Consider doing this in the manner we meant by just Beginning,and Stopping,to form Lasers in our hands : "a quick fake-out of unleashing Lasers " ,but in dueling it would be joined by"&follow-up with some Conservative Weak Lasers mixed with Real Danmaku or even Real Magic while making the best of it to exploit openings or make a safe course"; naturally it should be practiced and used in single,different pairs or more members...The whole team !".
> Give Mayina the death glare for what he did, flash our eyes Youkai red while at it
> "We'll be wary and won't let ourselves get fooled!"
> "Thank you for the tea and everything, I hope Sakuya recovers soon"
> Get ready to leave
> Ponder what Louise could be up to
> Wait for Alice, don't go anywhere without her!
// Yess, a 'cutscene'! Let's see what she's up to
>"Or getting hit by the spell that Elis used against Sakuya? She might decide to not waste time fighting to get the Grimoire if she comes back again."
>Do we know what happened to the Makaian dressed like a shrine maiden?
>If we don't, say "That reminds me. Whatever happened to the other Makaian that showed up recently? Could she still be around?"
> "What about a spell that converted mass in to light which was then surrounded a demarcation barrier?"
> "Perhaps if her body was sealed first? Somehow my seal manages to transmutate darkness which is an intangible void in to blood which is defined physical matter, perhaps making a seal or spell that does the opposite must also be possible"
> "Can we come back here at night and rest? That vampire might appear again at night and kill us"
>Don't commit to this part yet.
> "So lets look around Youkai Mountain for that cat, we can also ask if she knows anything about the incident"
> Head out of the forest, memorizing the path for future trips. Mark Eientei's direction on our compass if needed
isn't really afraid of Reimu [anymore]//Since when?
//I meant the spell Elis used to knock everyone (besides Rumia because of her darkness sphere) out, I guess I wasn't specific enough. I thought it would be fitting to warn about it.
>"If Elis tries to come back, she might decide to not waste time fighting to get the Grimoire. She might try that spell she used to knock us out before Sakuya showed up. I wasn't affected because of my darkness sphere, but you don't really have that, so be careful."
> "So lets head back to the SDM to inform them of Sakuya's condition and ask how the fight with Elis went. Then let's have a look around Youkai Mountain for Chen, who knows she might have a tip or lead for futher places to investigate">Don't plan to go look for Chen. Chen would lead to Yukari which might potentially lead to an encounter with Reimu at worst, or information trickling back to her. We're unsure if this Yukari person would be trustworthy, after all.
> Head out of the forest, memorizing the path for future trips. Mark Eientei's direction on our compass if needed
> Add "Then lets try and head back to the gateway to Makai and let Yumeko know that we were attacked by Elis and that Alice is in a safe place now">We already know there is no point in doing so. The gateway is blocked. (Plus it's literally right next to Reimu's place. Plus there's still Mima and a possible angry Aunn to worry about.)
// It's unlikely we'll run into Reimu at Youkai Mountain so let's go and see if we can find Chen though let's go there via the SDM to tell them about Sakuya and also find out how the fight vs Elis went
> "Yeah you're nice too, I don't see why anyone would want to kill you"
> "Thanks for letting us stay if needed, farewell"
> Be polite and bow before leaving
> "So lets head back to the SDM to inform them of Sakuya's condition and ask how the fight with Elis went.Then let's have a look around Youkai Mountain for Chen, who knows she might have a tip or lead for futher places to investigate"
> Head out of the forest, memorizing the path for future trips. Mark Eientei's direction on our compass if needed
> Change to "Then lets investigate around the portal Mayina came through and refreeze it if its melted" (We now have Miasma protection so we should be able to see whats on the other side)
// Alice stayed at Eientei since it's safer for her>Don't do this yet.
> "Who are 'they' miss human?"
> Drool a little if our Youkai Instincts are telling us to...
> Wipe it off, old habits die hard
>Don't do this yet.
//What do you mean she stayed!? Had I known I would've refused leaving. We made a promise to protect her, after all, and I'd rather not take any chances on leaving her alone after Elis ex Machina.
//If Rai confirms that she's not with us, would you mind opening a retcon vote since we literally just left and barely any progression happened?
>Wait for Tom's opinion on opening a retcon vote// However, Reading again Kaguya,Eirin and Alice's last response there is anorher Point of Inter : they feel Alice herself is safe here and we could be cutting our investigation short if we backtrack through Half-Gensokyo for getting back to Eientei;this could encompass leaving a valuable member/friend in Eientei while the priority is with the group . //
>"Actually, before we go..."
>Look at Miss Eirin and the others.
>"You wouldn't happen to know of some way of keeping in touch over long distances, would you?"
>Wait for Tom.
>Look to Alice
>"Is it possible to use your dolls to talk to other people?"
> "Do you think you could set something up so we can stay in contact? In case we figure out anything more about the incident or why they might be after you"
>"Since you're staying here, I figure it would be best to keep in contact in case something happens."
>Consider leaving one of us behind as an extra precaution
> "It's possible, but it would depend on if you have enough power to sustain the magical connection with the dolls." Alice states. "Marisa could do it from a long distance, but I don't know how well it would work with you."
> "It's not a bad idea." Alice remarks.
> You consider the possibility of leaving someone behind, just in case. Although you don't see how that would help with communication.
> Alice makes two small magic circles; and then summons two small dolls, small compared to her usual ones. One is wearing a red dress with her hair tied on the right, while the other is wearing blue with the hair on the left.
> "There are two miniature dolls for communication." Alice states. "It dosen't matter which one you take, but don't just run off with it; I need to attune it."
> "Alright,thanks for it, do they have a name "?
> After hearing them pick the red one // Hourai(?) unless you prefer Shangai(?)//
> " Oh !Alice,before this set-up begins, I was wondering ...Could one of us standing behind with you around here be a good extra-precaution or full-team investigation is best ?".
> Think up who of us has the best disposition and abilities for such a task.
//Well...Unless they are too draining on Rumia,with the doll communications ready to be tested out, a -1 from the Team could be wasted resource , when needing it for the investigation,rather than a well-placed 1 . Still, fit charactes for that ,pending confirmation, is Wriggle or Mystia(Daiyousei is needed as '" in a way Cirno's Conscience ") // .
// Unlikely she would give us Shanghai or Hourai, those are her most prized creations. These are most likely communications dolls
> "So how do we attune them?"
> Think of leaving Daiyousei since if Elis attacks and kills her she will respawn and be able to warn us. She is also the most intellectual from our group and Alice likely prefers intellectual company
//And the green one would be called Vilnius. (I'm from Lithuania btw)
>Pick the red one because red is obviously our favorite color. (Because it's the color of meat).
>"I choose ... Charmander!"
> Stop thinking of meat, we're better than that!
> Pick the red one since its one of our primary colors and Alice would probably prefer the blue one being one of her primary colors
> Approach and point at it
> "So how do we attune them?"
> Pick it up with both hands and face Alice
> Follow any other instructions Alice gives us
> "Its working, I feel a slow drain on my energy"
> If we feel like the attunement is going to fail focus on directing our energy into the connection between the dolls
>Huggle doll, but keep it facing Alice so she can continue to attune it.
>>Stop/Don't do this if Alice advises against doing so.
[Got some repeat commands here, such as requests for names]
> "The red one is called Riga; the Blue one is called Tallinn" Alice says.
> "I'll basically need you to stay still and hold the doll you want to take with you for a while, while I attune both of them." Alice explains.
> You also note Daiyousei isn't much of a fighter. Although, she's also the best at
[I chose Riga and Tallinn because they're capitals of two small countries [They're small dolls] with good relations; specifically Latvia and Estonia.]
> Stop huggling it since Alice disapproves
> Keep steady and focus our energy in to the link
// Aah, that is the reason they sounded vaguely family and about the the pair-up for communication the red-blue connection by design ! Glad more info about them,that was my aim with a side-joke(Hourai?Shangai?) :D //
> Simply hug Riga as motionlessly as we can,no movement like de-huggle ,until after the 7 threads are gone and Alice says so.
> Keep note of the Energy Drain.
>"Alright."
>Which doll are we holding again, name wise?
> "So do we just talk to them or is it through thought?"
> "Also can anyone communicate with them or just me?"
> "I suggest we try it before leaving"
> Go outside and focus our energy in to he doll
> "Alice?"
>Consider the viability of each of our teammates if we were to leave one behind to stay with Alice
// I want Mayina with us so we can do some relationship building[ :ohdear: ! Much of this player Meta-Discussion is :wikipedia: ! ]
// In leaning towards leaving Cirno and Daiyousei as they are pretty much indestructible
// Maybe now that we have communication we don't have to leave anyone?// You are right,I am editing my post to be an open-ended anwser in both directions, and Indeed I was under that same impression as well,but we have to wait for both the group answers and,unless those answers are explicative enough ,EvilNazgul's(the main intercessor for leaving 1 behind as more security)//.
> Look at Wriggle
> "Wriggle could you stay and keep Alice company while we revisit the SDM and investigate Mayina's portal?"
>"How far can bugs warn you in advance of an approaching threat, on average?"
>"Well, I don't think you'll have a shortage of bugs, this is a forest, after all."
//Will be sleeping soon. Please don't leave yet, because there's a parting sentence I want to say to Wriggle before we leave.
//Also should we also give them a place to meet up with us in the event things do go south?
> Ask Mayina discreetly "Anything specific you want to do or see on the way back to the Scarlet Mansion? I don't want you to feel like we're just dragging you around"
(Low voice and sincere tone while saying this)
// We should indeed, how about Misty Lake
// For now let us first deal with Sumireko,Mayina's Makai Portal and SDM,afterwards we are going to be checking Misty Lake&sorroundings,or thinking and going for other places,for a fairly accessible and hidden meeting place,then communicate it to Wriggle&Alice&Eientei ".//
// Well this is as far as " meeting places outside buildings,harder to track,easier to access "are concerned....Excluding Eientei & Bamboo Forest since too close to Alice,unless we need to regroup with Alice & Eientei Support or throw off tenacious pursuers by passing deeply in the outer rim,but just the outer, of the Forest // .
> How were Sun,Sky,Weathe,Approximate Time Status when we went out of the building?
> Frown with a small smile " Mhmh! In any case,if things ever go south or we are somehow scattered without a clear plan to regroup, we should seek out,after the Portal and SDM priorities, a meeting place while traveling in general,one more readily accessible than Eientei,if unable to regroup here due to Alice's Safety or not enough time ,but still somehow hidden..."
> "...Perhaps,after poking at them, spots around the Mistly Lake or some spots inside our usual "Great Forest " or... I am open to suggestions...".
> Look at Mayina
> "Of course you don't, however if you see something that interests you don't be shy and tell us. I feel that all we've done is drag you around and get you mixed up in our affairs which has almost gotten you killed twice, so I want to make it up somehow"
> Look to the rest of the group
> "Then Misty Lake it is!"
>"Should we make a backup location to meet in case we can't get there for some reason or another?"
> Add "And the back side of the SDM if Misty Lake is dangerous" instead of saying "Should we make a backup location to meet in case we can't get there for some reason or another?"
>"what would be a good backup location if we can't meet at the lake for whatever reason, then?"
>Turn to Mayina
>"And don't say things like that."
> Add this to what we say to Mayina "cause ya' ain't dead till you're dead!"
{My Command-Reply was missed ,however I am going to take this opportunity for better explanations. }
> Look to Mystia" Misty...do not feel down because we are setting right those rumours&suspicions about a part of Youkai&Fairies such as us who are openly doing for Gensokyo,while still being Youkai-like&Fairy-Like,when working together at the right time shaking with surprise up &down those great doubts...
>"... like we have done by helping the Human Village alongside Keine despite all the strong doubts at us".
>Look To Daiyousei: " I was thinking if the Misty Lake becomes or appears unsafe while the Mansion or its back withstands,though yes : what other place if the whole area is too dangerous ,at least for us ? Smart observation,Dai!
//No worries :) . Rumia, any character and status are and must justly be oblivious regarding the retcon;my explanations are just for us players being ready to be well-responsive to Sumireko,like we had started,and then some. //
// Better encounter Sekibanki in private, and sooner or later the rest of the "Grassroots Youkai Network) " lest we risk out "Villager-ing"//.
// More Importantly, after exiting the Bamboo Forest or if we have delayed the encounter possibly on the way to or back from Misty Lake/SDM , the group(- Wriggle) is going to meet up an informed Sumireko wrongly thinking ,due to Mayina, we are either accomplices or being deceived...We could start out by again exchanging explanations , info ,no sneak ,this time adding presentations and ,if agreed,even invite her to accompany us for a time (of course she is not going to be allowed inside SDM unless she becomes known there,an Incident Resolver or a SDM-friendly vouches for her). //
>"No, not the Hakurei Shrine, that would be suicide... And didn't the Temple kick us out before?"
>"Forest might be a good bet then, but it's very big... was there a specific part you had in mind, Daiyousei?"
>Turn to Mayina
>Hands on hips.
>"Even if I was powerless, I'd still be alive and I'd still have a life to live."
// Time for a motivational act for Mayina
> "And I do know what it's like to have your powers removed!"
> Point at our ribbon and look a upset
> "Even worse I remember nothing about what I could possiblely have done to deserve this fate!"
> Turn around and hold our head as if trying to compose ourselves
> "Knowing what led to your punishment, however unfair the punishment might be is infinitely more bearable than being punished for an unknown crime you have no memory of committing"
> Turn around and face Mayina eye to eye this time looking sad
> "Losing your memories is like dying ... would you even be the same person?"
> Look at him expecting an honest and truthful answer
> Regardless of his answer afterwards say "Yet I still have the desire to live ... to be with my friends, help them when in need and have a good time"
> Look somewhat sad and confused while saying this:wikipedia: :o // { Even if this planning/replies are simplified, it is still cool and might be even better }
> "If the old me was killed and I am a completely different person as you say why should I be punished not once, not twice but perpetually for a random dead person's crimes? I don't think it gets more unfair that that!
> "Nothing will bring back that person, even if Eirin somehow made medicine to help me remember everything whats been done has been done, they are gone and will only be a memory. Its a death more permanent than death itself, no afterlife or any form of continuing for you got to have a soul for either and memories have neither!"
> "What crime could p o s s i b l y warrant not only erasing that person from existence but perpetually punishing an innocent for eternity? Even mass human eating would *only* lead to extermination for the Youkai itself!"
> Look as optimistic as we can
> "As depressing as even thinking about this is I try and show as much optimism as I can, that things will turn out for the better as long as I stay positive and keep investigating"
> "Show a fraction of the optimism and carefree spirit Gensokyo is known for and I'm sure things will work out"
> "For you're just suffering from a lack of magical energy, not a disease or some THING" point at ribbon "stuck on you that's limiting every aspect of your body that you can't even touch without burning yourself!"
> "I promise I'll do what I can to help you with magic in Gensokyo"
> Look as reassuring as we can
> "So what do you say? Will you at least try to be more optimistic from now on?"
> If we feel comfortable with extending our hand for some sort of handshake do so (only do this if he seems like he might be in a position to accept)
// { Even if this planning/replies are simplified, it is still cool and could even more effective }//They're Not really hideouts, just backup places to meet.
Both hide-outs and pathing could/might be excellent as interchangeability when necessary to have more convenience, back-ups,spreading out and/or misdirections~~~>>> "Kogasa's surprising places" (s at the Myouren Temple'sGraveyard AND its outer reaches OR any passages&stops between those,being a group of 7-8 but even if we are down to 4-5;*this should be valid regardless)AND "Daiyousei's to Wriggle's Fireflies Gathering or Linked ",Wriggle grants her approval and we are able to Reach&Gather,if only relatively minor trackability is the main concern(*this should be valid for every and any instances*),without her yet,to hide-out.
> Wait out for responses without edging over the limit that Daemon , Mayina , like "Helping to him to Do A Convenient Acclimation to Gensokyo(or Linked) and only then ,when our bets are hedged, supply him by a Trusted or magic-like source of power.
> After that ,Cheerful Nod Sage to Daiyouse,Wriggle,Kogasa&Mystia :" We could have more than 1 sort-of-hide-out both,even temporary ones if the measures call for them and we are not clumsy,especially that Tiny Forest of Fireflies and the Myourens' Graveyard as a Land-Mark .
>" Their importance is : they are to be fairly hidden&hard-to-reach -not much for us though!ahahah!-& -to-flee-to-from&friendly,even if we should still remain justly jumpy to counterattack launched or inflicted and any strange occurences,apt to be organized and have
> Look somewhat sad and confused while saying this
> "If the old me was killed and I am a completely different person as you say why should I be punished not once, not twice but perpetually for a random dead person's crimes? I don't think it gets more unfair that that!
> "Nothing will bring back that person, even if Eirin somehow made medicine to help me remember everything whats been done has been done, they are gone and will only be a memory. Its a death more permanent than death itself, no afterlife or any form of continuing for you got to have a soul for either and memories have neither!"
> "What crime could p o s s i b l y warrant not only erasing that person from existence but perpetually punishing an innocent for eternity? Even mass human eating would *only* lead to extermination for the Youkai itself!"
> Look as optimistic as we can
> "As depressing as even thinking about this is I try and show as much optimism as I can, that things will turn out for the better as long as I stay positive and keep investigating"
> "Show a fraction of the optimism and carefree spirit Gensokyo is known for and I'm sure things will work out"
> "For you're just suffering from a lack of magical energy, not a disease or some THING" point at ribbon "stuck on you that's limiting every aspect of your body that you can't even touch without burning yourself!"
> "I promise I'll do what I can to help you with magic in Gensokyo, even if it means bringing you mana crystals from Makai until something more permanent is found"
> Look as reassuring as we can
> "So what do you say? Will you at least try to be more optimistic from now on?"
> If we feel comfortable with extending our hand for some sort of handshake do so (only do this if he seems like he might be in a position to accept)
// { Even if this planning/replies are simplified, it is still cool and could even more effective }
Both hide-outs and pathing could/might be excellent as interchangeability when necessary to have more convenience, back-ups,spreading out and/or misdirections~~~>>> "Kogasa's surprising places" (s at the Myouren Temple'sGraveyard AND its outer reaches OR any passages&stops between those,being a group of 7-8 but even if we are down to 4-5;*this should be valid regardless)AND "Daiyousei's to Wriggle's Fireflies Gathering or Linked ",Wriggle grants her approval and we are able to Reach&Gather,if only relatively minor trackability is the main concern(*this should be valid for every and any instances*),without her yet,to hide-out.
> Wait out for responses without edging over the limit that Daemon , Mayina , like "Helping to him to Do A Convenient Acclimation to Gensokyo(or Linked) and only then ,when our bets are hedged, supply him by a Trusted or magic-like source of power.
> After that ,Cheerful Nod Sage to Daiyouse,Wriggle,Kogasa&Mystia :" We could have more than 1 sort-of-hide-out both,even temporary ones if the measures call for them and we are not clumsy,especially that Tiny Forest of Fireflies and the Myourens' Graveyard as a Land-Mark .
>" Their importance is : they are to be fairly hidden&hard-to-reach -not much for us though!ahahah!-& -to-flee-to-from&friendly,even if we should still remain justly jumpy to counterattack launched or inflicted and any strange occurences,apt to be organized and have
> "Alright, I guess that's fair... Don't be so hard on yourself though, you didn't know the extent of your master's plan, you were just scouting and don't get me wrong I do understand why you'd angry with the state of Makai, especially after seeing what Gensokyo looks like"
> "What you said makes me legitimately wonder what could have happened with me..."
> Turn to Eirin
> "Would you happen know anyone who would remember incidents that happened a long time ago? Like before the spell card rules"
// This is not a new post but rather a Need Polishing&Highlighting of half of my previous one marked ""+-----+"" at start&end ,which has already been Edited ,whilst Waiting&Praying for Raikaria to get well from his illness among his responsibilities //
// Yep, Misty Lake and if not, near Myouren Temple/Right-o Mysty Lake and Myouren Temple Graveyard(both are too Vulnerable fo a group like ours,even reduced,especially the 2nd one,at least for the current Knowledge/Situation)//.
> "Well I don't think your master to has to Shinki's daughter's book, that's something Marisa would do... that's just mean and Alice doesn't even live there or take part in what happens there, why should she be punished for something that's not her fault"
> "From what I know the humans managed to wipe out all Youkai and even gods in the outside world without even using magic... whatever they did must have been powerful"
>Don't leave just yet.
>"Just to be clear: We all know what to do and where to go in the event things go bad, right?"
//Did we ever concretely decide on a safe location to meet up? I know like three ideas were suggested but was there ever one decided on between Rumia and everyone else?
> "We should probably get going, thank you for helping Sakuya and for letting us stay for tea. I hope you find the Makaian apple interesting in your experiments"
> Once everyone's ready head off for Misty Lake
// That sounds out of place, this isn't Space Invaders ~ Light and Darkness. We have no idea she's an outsider nor that she even knows what a daemon is
> Don't say the above
> "Hi there! I'm Rumia!"
> Introduce the rest of our group (or let them introduce themselves)> Don't mind the demon that's with us, he's no longer with the others. I'm Rumia, who might you be?"
> "And who might you be?"
> Keep a cheery childish face the whole time while talking to her
> Also add sidequest to investigate or figure out what Eirin calls "technology" is, as it sounds very dangerous and we can't let the heretics get their hands on it
> After introductions unless cut short: " Hey Miss(her name) , may we know where do you come from ? Not from Gensokyo or Makai? "
> Then add:"That,uh?No worries if you are referring to Mayina, he was 1 among those Makaians who are trying and raiding Gensokyo&Close-By and yet he is no longer so since he ended up powerless,was left into my custody and he is sticking close for rehabilitaton&adaption here!".
> " ...But, from what you are saying, not just Gensokyo and Close-By are involved,right ? "
>"You're an outsider? That's cool. What's the outside world like?"
>"Oh, and Makai is the demon realm that's full of toxic air. However, magicians like to train there because it's chock full of stuff that benefits magic. Some rogue faction from there has been causing trouble recently."
> "I don't want to overwhelm you with too many questions, considering we just met but I've heard there's no magic or Youkai in the outside world due to something called technology, how can something cause extinction like that?"
[Going with Renko as a younger sister to Sumi because Maribel and Renko are usually stated to be 'near future' so I doubt there's much of a gap; especially as the Sealing Club would have to continue between Sumi leaving University and Renko joining]//I also have a headcanon that Renko and Sumireko are siblings. lol
> " Well,right now you Dern more ready to make-up for that Incident by helping resolving one,the current one with the Makai Rogue Heretical Faction not only trying to invade Gensokyo but also trying to steal artifacts, items of magic and breaking the Barrier-Seal between Gensokyo and Makai...
> "So you are saying there are other occult and hidden realms than Gensokyo and the Lunar Capital? I probobly shouldn't find a way there however. I caused a few... uh... issues when I first crossed over here. You guys call it an Incident. My dreaming is a result of that in fact.." the girl says somewhat sheepishly.
>"I doubt you'd be able to breathe in Makai if you went there anyway. I couldn't even go there without a special magic bubble over my head. It is a beautiful place, though, if not tough. Plus there's the whole hierarchy and everything, and the bandits to worry about... Plus the whole situation going on right now with the rogue faction."
>Shrug
>"Anyway I wonder what happened to make people stop believing and such out there..."
//I also have a headcanon that Renko and Sumireko are siblings. lol
// Well she didn't know about Makai before we talked about it so no heretic here
> Imagine a town somewhat larger than the human village with buildings tall enough to reach the sky and make a mental note of what we think it'd look like. In case we see something like one or a picture of one later"
> "Can't let that happen here or in Makai!"
> In lower voice think aloud "Huh, if technology can make magic stop existing in a world I wonder if something else can recreate it... like reverse-technology!"
> Look back up at Sumireko
> "How exactly did *everyone* just stop believing in it? That's like saying all Youkai and Humans just stopped eating meat! Surely many would stick to what tastes best! Surely there was someone pushing such a change, things as bad as that don't just happen"
> Feel our stomach as thinking about meat sure is appetizing
>"But not human meat! I don't do that anymore."
> " Well,right now you Dern more ready to make-up for that Incident by helping resolving one,the current one with the Makai Rogue Heretical Faction not only trying to invade Gensokyo but also trying to steal artifacts, items of magic and breaking the Barrier-Seal between Gensokyo and Makai...
> "...Oh ,in fact we were on our way to the Scarlet Devil Mansion to do&receive sort-of-reports about a couple recent ...violent developments and so...
> " ...of course unless you have more important stuff to check-out,how about you to accompany us there even if it is just to get better acquainted with Gensokyo?"
// I think Kaguya mentioned her
> This technology must be god-like in terms of power if it can make not one but multiple towns like that
> "So you're only a projection? Have you ever thought of coming here permanently? Seems to me that magic fascinates you more that anything, especially since you have an ability that you didn't have to learn, just like everyone here."
> "Why don't you come along with us, we're trying to find who's responsible so I'm sure we'll run into other people investigating"
// I think Kaguya mentioned her
> This technology must be god-like in terms of power if it can make not one but multiple towns like that
> "So you're only a projection? Have you ever thought of coming here permanently? Seems to me that magic fascinates you more that anything, especially since you have an ability that you didn't have to learn, just like everyone here."
> "Why don't you come along with us, we're trying to find who's responsible so I'm sure we'll run into other people investigating"
>" And besides I do remember ,though someone in my group could know better, the name "Fujwara no Mokou",even if Princess Kaguya disliked it,while we were at Eiente in The Bamboo Forest of the Lost,so you could have bigger chances to meet her ,in addition to traveling,getting-to-know,helping in incident resolving,in traveling with us for how long you like or need ; especially so if you are not finding her at her usual place and with Gensokyo half-troubled state"
> "Aaah,if it helps any, the Scarlet Mansion or Scarlet Devil Mansion is by the Misty Lake and (unless untrue and so not to mention)fairly close to Youkai Mountain"
> "But hey,Miss Sumireko,you were saying you have recently encountered and deal with Heretic Makaians in Gensokyo ? Do you remember the place ?"
>"Yeah, that sounds like them alright... I guess they might be getting desperate if they're looking in the outside world of all places..."
> "What kind of things were they thinking were useful? For example here they were after a book, so they might also be after something similar there too"
> "Did they come out of some sort of portal or did they seem to just materialize into existence?"
> " Oh, now I am wondering if Koakuma ,over at the Mansion I was talking about,has more experience about what they do when hunting magical artifacts...".
>"Ah,you do not know Koakuma,so I can tell you she has reddish hair and does resembles the ones you encountered ,which are Female Koas like her,but she is the familiar of Patchouli Knowledge,the Youkai Magician of that Mansion and a denizen of it as well,making her practically a Gensokyan ".
>"Speaking of natives, how are you holding up, Mayina?"
> Come to think of it we don't really know of any abilities Mayina might have, could it be making portals? Since pretty much everyone has some form of an ability he must have something
> See if we can telepathically trigger the communication doll so we can let Alice know about this without anyone noticing
> "So they went all the way to the outside world to look for the Grimoire ... that's dedication!"
> We're sort of repeating her answer but this time with the doll active so Alice hears it, after we say that break the connection
//Check EXP needed to level up Rumia's totally existant espionage skill
> Huh, maybe portals are indeed his ability, considering he proudly managed to get past a barrier many others failed to...
> Nod to Mayina in understanding
> "Well then, want to come with us and talk to miss Scarlet about her encounter with another vampire? I'm sure you don't get to hear many vampire stories over there!"
> "They're nice people, we were playing tag with her little sister earlier!"
> Only say the following if we know about the Vampire Incident or know that the SDM residents are foreigners
> "I've heard that they were originally from the outside world too, maybe you'll be interested in asking them about how the outside world was when they left and they might want to know how it looks now"
> Say this in a gossipy tone, like Aya when she knows an especially scandalous story
> "Besides aren't you curious to meet the residents of the very fancy mansion at the far side of the lake?" Point towards the Scarlet Mansion
> "Its one-of-a-kind here in Gensokyo!"
>Do we know about the prismriver mansion? It is also near the misty lake.
>"Well it was the younger sister, Flandre, who wanted to play tag. Both the resident vampires look like kids, but Flan acts closer to her physical age."
> Start heading towards the mansion, seeing if Sumireko follows
> If she doesn't seem to be following say something between the lines of "Are ya coming?" and "Its this way" (while pointing towards where we want her to go)
> While on the way lets check out the doll a bit more in depth
> Instead of holding it levitate it using a small barrier from now on so it looks like its hovering right in front of us
> Try and make it wave its hand once using tiny ring barriers
> Remember to later ask Alice if she could sense on her side the movements the doll made (Like if movement is also connected or its just sound)
> Alright, leave the precise movements for now and just keep it floating near us with the barrier
> Do we have the ability to choose between focusing normal and darkness magic on things like the doll? Kind of like creating regular and darkness danmaku and lasers.
> "Nightmares? With various Gensokyans?"
> Feel the urge and make a motion to ask if we were in them but don't actually ask
> Specifically activating the doll while darkening our magic? Like how we can darken objects, create darkness danmaku etc but darkening the magical energy itself. So that the doll still activates but Alice knows something's different or 'opposite'
> Ask "What's a Baku?" While tilting our head like a curious child
>"Dream world, huh...? You don't think Makai's going to be invading our dreams too, do you?"
> Are we able to activate the doll only for moments at a time without it being easily noticeable? Like discreetly activate it for a second then deactivate it
> "Dream World? So its an actual world like this one and Makai?"
> In lower voice "What if a portal could be opened between them and you could enter fully awake?" In even lower voice "... and bring things back?"
> Drool at the thought of all-you-can-eat steaks...
> In deep thought and low voice "Now would food created in a dream but brought into the real world still be filling? No matter how much I eat in a dream I'm still hungry when I wake up..."
> Snap out of it and look at Sumireko while wiping our face
> "You were saying?? Aaah Nightmares"
> "If you're fully awake they shouldn't be too much of a problem since you could make them go away by thinking of doing so, isn't only because you're asleep and your mind is fuzzy that you believe that stuff?"
> "Well if that's a good thing entirely depends on what lives there. Surely; a Dream World would also house nightmares... are you drooling?"
// I agree with Brenner on letting Alice know more
// About disclosing more information to others, just gauge how much they know and act accordingly if they pressure us on who's the culprit or suspect we are involved reveal that we believe Elis is involved and that we were attacked. This will accomplish two things at once, it will get whoever is pestering us off our backs (ex Reimu) and doing something useful for us and it will put pressure on Elis to stay hidden and not bother us or any other residents
> Strategically activate the doll during our conversation to let Alice know more about Sumireko
> How much closer to the SDM are we since we started talking?
> "You're right, nothing stops existing, so whats in the Dream World has got to be real in some sense... Also dimensional portals are indeed a thing so maybe its possible"
> "Since those heretics could strike again at any time in your world and you can't stay asleep forever I wonder if you know some way to stay in contact while you're awake? Like perhaps some objects we could enchant perhaps" Temporarily form two small darkness barriers and a thin line/cylinder physical barrier in the middle and point at them to help explain what we're thinking about to Sumireko
> "Say, you're pretty knowledgeable when it comes to magic, would you happen to know of ways weaker Youkai like us could become stronger? We had a close encounter with an incredibly strong vampire earlier and realize that we might be in a little over our heads with investigating this incident so any help would be greatly appreciated"
> // Tom's// How much is left to the SDM?
> Wait for Sumireko to think&answeer the previous inquiries.
> Friendly and Pondering Tone : " Ah-ah! If Dreams&Nigthmares have their own reality,they also need some Balance and Safeguarding,and so that is what that Baku is likely doing not letting you exploring more of that Dream World - maybe exaggerating in it or maybe not - which is seemingly an important cross-way and passage ..."
> "I ,for one ,can drool at the Dram of Lots of Damage-Free,and Dreamy&Real-Like Steaks p,eh-eh. "
> " Yet it could be that ,though one of us should double-check with Bakus if we do come across them , Beings From outside thr Dream World,especially if unexperiencedare both at risk and could be risk-causing if they wander too deep ,but likely also so for Experienced Non-Denizens at certain points, by causing somethng like...turn their and others Dreams&Happiness into Nightmares&Traumas by Accident or On-Purpose or Half-Half...their Bodies could also be Sleep-Stranded till the Dream World,or Worlds, are set right again by the Baku ..."
> "... Uh ,Miss Sumireko,don't you agree it would be Helpful if we could exchange even more Informative Bits like these with Gensokyo People who are Confirmed to be Quite Smart&Reliable "?
//(When I am specifying "Dream-Sumireko "/ "D.Sumireko " (Astral Projected)it isto distinguish her from " Sleep-Sumireko /S. '' " and " Whole Sumireko/ W. '' " so it is not meant to be"Dream-Sumireko(Gensokyo) VS Human-Sumireko(Outside World) " like in ,if they are ever going to appear in Rumia Quest, " (Official) Touhou Violet Detector ", )
With that explained,this COULD BE a good moment for "Starting Communications about and by D.Sumireko with most of those at Eientei with Kaguya being the least (Mokou-Sumireko Friendship), in preparation for some future contacts with W.Sumireko AND facilitating Mokou-Meetings ' through Riga&Tallinn ( Alice&Wriggle&Eientei-Rumia Line by Dolls ).
// We should be only waiting for proper delays in Communicating such as ""After initial Comm.,1st comes Sakuya&Remilia&SDM " and " After like-wise,careful to keep it vague to Kaguya "for also the sake of,even more,Gensokyo-Sumireko Acclimating with Mokou-Sumireko(and possibly others...)Friendshipwhile also having Insurances for Troubling Misunderstandings. //
//Hinderances,would arise from those Troubling Misunderstandings around Sumireko's Appearance,or even Unclear Rumours reachng, IF WITHOUT Gensokyo-Acquaintances or without Rumia's Group , reaching the (due to Heretic Makaians Invasion ))now-tense and in-repair Human Village ,their on-edge guards like (especialy)Keine and (covertly)Sekibanki ,unless she nicely chance upon Mokou still helping with the Makai Fire Magic aftermaths ; but the same,to a lesser degree,is also true for her prematurely exploring around the Makai-Gensokyo Seal and The Frozen, Makai Portal //
// A Partial Permission by Sumireko should be enough but we might have to disclose a larger,yet hopefully not painfuly large ,amount of Knowledge to Allies such as Sages,Savants and "Those Bearing Insightful Powers". //
// I agree with Brenner on letting Alice know more
// About disclosing more information to others, just gauge how much they know and act accordingly if they pressure us on who's the culprit or suspect we are involved reveal that we believe Elis is involved and that we were attacked. This will accomplish two things at once, it will get whoever is pestering us off our backs (ex Reimu) and doing something useful for us and it will put pressure on Elis to stay hidden and not bother us or any other residents
> Strategically activate the doll during our conversation to let Alice know more about Sumireko
// Lets not mention the heretic Makaians to anyone else since we ourselves want to investigate that. If we mention "group of Makaian daemons" it might provoke another Mystic Square like incident where they attack Makai. It's better to get everyone else to focus Elis while we take care of the heretics in a more elegant and less violent way that doesn't threaten Makai's existence
// Perhaps as long as this conversation lasts then timeskip
> Can everyone hear what Alice says or only us?
> Eirin might want to know about the Lunarians hopefully Alice relays this to her
> "Is that so~? I wonder how the lunarians managed to get in to the dream world? So you just got mixed up in their interactions with the dream world and that baku"
> "Do you think Youkai like us would survive in the outside world or will we be like Mayina in Gensokyo where we can't use magic without exhausting ourselves?"
//We should probably answer Alice back. I don't want her getting the wrong idea and getting annoyed with us for contracting her with unimportant stuff. It could lead to her ignoring us if we actually need to contact her in an emergency.
>If we can do it discreetly, whisper: "Just a conversation I thought you'd might be interested in hearing"
>Otherwise whisper: "Just checking in."
> Think of the possibility of eating Sumireko (or whoever else seems appetizing) and strategically drool a little while whispering to Alice so Sumireko thinks we're talking to ourselves/daydreaming about food
> Alice is either talking quietly or the doll is very quiet. You don't think anyone else can hear Alice, at least right now.// So probably the first?
> Alice is either talking quietly or the dollis very quiet. You don't think anyone else can hear Alice, at least right now.!!!!! :wikipedia: :wikipedia: :wikipedia: !!!!!
> "I think my actions had something to do with it. That's probably why the Baku blamed me for the trouble." Sumireiko explains.
> "Youkai would die, I presume. I'm not sure exactly how, but... well... you don't see Youkai on the outside."
> "I see." Alice responds.
> Sumierko doesn't seem too interested in you talking to the doll anyway. She's focused on flying.
//So which statement did Alice respond to?
// So probably the first?
> "That's disappointing though I wonder if would happen to all Youkai ? Humans should still fear darkness regardless if they believe in the supernatural or not, as something very real can lurk inside of it... Its the primal fear" Temporarily form a darkness barrier around our floating doll for a few seconds to emphasize our point as we say this
> "I'd imagine children would be especially terrified of the dark with their childish imaginations, you know believing monsters lurk in the dark corners of your room at night and such. And I assume there's more of them on the outside than all of Gensokyo's population"
> With a friendly smile tell Mayina "Don't be shy and tell us if you ever get tired of walking or this slower pace!~"
!!!!! :wikipedia: :wikipedia: :wikipedia: !!!!!
// I do not mind,could be even better if a part of my post could have to be postponed by the character-pace of the Involved NPCs,and then SDM&"Visitors" ( I ,and we :) ,are still keeping in mind that Raikaria/ This Story-GM needs a Calmer ;) Pace) // .
//Hitherto Some info-parts could be insighted and/or glossed over and/or re-ordered and/or better timed along according to the other players(3 who are T./E.N./E.M. :o ...soo far ;) ) //.
> "To Alice as audible explanatory whispers to her : " Uh,Please Miss Alice can you also call-in in time Wriggle to listen-in and then any of the Eientei who's interested in this new exploring-learning : call-in in time seing as she ...oh , her name Miss Sumireko, friends with thaaat only-heard-of, for me and the rest of the Team, Mokou person ".
> " ... Yeah,Her Time in Fensokyo is her Bory Sleeping Time at Outside World for she is a in Gensokyo as a Dream of Herself .. mh-mh-mh through aDream World with a Baku : a Double-Special Human, Youkai-like even,this Miss Sumireko
> To Sumireko,after finehed answering-in&letting listening-in : " I can very well Imagine If Gendokyand or Makaians or Fairly Similar,those who are dependant by those Worlds that is ,they indeed Die there or also Nearly-Die as "Youkai People" unless they are more Special in their own Right than us here,who are more Ordinary than Specialq
> Fist-palm :" So in Outside Human World if we "Ordinary Youkai
> "Opposite but also,simlars case are,the break-ins in Gensokyo,and everywhere un-Makai-like ,like in small part the Troublesome the Suit-Koas you were beating back,Miss Sumireko,because they are also " ordinary" they are Makai-- dependant but ar also Linked&Support by their Portals and ESPECIALLY the Toxic Miasma though so far only seeping-into the immediate vicinity ;
> " Still it is best to avoid their locations might be risking ending atcloser to each other,their sizes greater and more "fed "invaders than we are ready to react in a short enough time to Places ;particularly the Human Village,their Farms,Fields or Leading-apathe
> "That is what we have to notice and not miss to be safe rather than sorry ,that ,alongside Abnormal Magics,Mysterious but also literal Materializing and other Spells by Powerful and ,potentially or actually , Curious&Dangerous Major Makaians like that Greater Vampire Elis ..,.until Dusk falls again ... mmmh not to forget that tall-ish all-blue shrine maiden-like lady,that acquaintance of hers .
> " The oddity we have found out in the aftermaths we have won it is normal fot them,granted it is just for those ones bent on Robbing to the point of Serial-Assaulting or even Raiding for - instead of...the Nicer Interesting Travelers could still exist qmongwide them as well ... Strong Mystical Items " and so Info, Wielders as wellif
> " Here in Gensokyo,and beyond tonother Worlds,"Invasions or Incursions" seems rather the rough means to those "Artifacts" but least 1,if it is just her,Makai Big-Name was also having a side-ends of challenging for fun during her search ; she was helding back much initially but not so much,but still a considerable deal,with the next fight and her final one for today when she still ended up hospitalasing a very seriously Injured Incident Resolver who also passed out from exhaustion".
> " Again would be that Makaian Vampire Elis,repelled also thanks to those exhaustinginjuries,not sure about her companion ,a few others but also with our Fire-Magic Raid Squadroon at the Human Village '.
> Look&Listen Back to our Group as well
> Quests (//Many Thanks and Kudos //).
> "What!?"> Return calm:"Oh-oh,so that is what technology can do...I wonder how much that light and my darkness would be affected by each other or maybe combined ".
> Nervously say "Just what can't they do?"
> "That makes the barrier all the more important!"
// Fast forward to SDM unless Sumireko has something to tell us
> "What!?"
> Nervously say "Just what can't they do?"
> "That makes the barrier all the more important!"
// Fast forward to SDM unless Sumireko has something to tell us
> Return calm:"Oh-oh,so that is what technology can do...I wonder how much that light and my darkness would be affected by each other or maybe combined ".
// Yes,after Sumireko's answer, SDM-Timeskip //.
// About the quest involving the Shrine&Reimu,are we leaning for meet-up or avoid or still undecided(Mima&Shrine&Linked situations) ?//
// I am more for meeting to further reports&further checks not too soon nor too late when we do obtain "enough or more elements", but avoidance up to meeting her much later certain point might be warranted if we do come across
Mima first and we might manage some""Good Business Collaboration",but it must be "Good", that Reimu cannot make like getting more of the Rumia's Seal Removed and more insights/counsels of "Times were Gensokyo-Makai were Seal-lesa
> Proceed towards the mansion
> If Meiling doesn't follow us or lead us to Remilia "You should come with us, we need to speak to Remilia about Sakuya's condition"
> If she has obligations and can't follow us then continue without Meiling
> Knock on the front door before entering
> Keep Mayina close while inside the mansion, we don't want him sneaking around
...
> You head to the front doors and knock. A few moments later a pink-haired fairy wearing a maid outfit opens the door. She looks rather nervous.
> "H-hello?" she... asks. Before she starts muttering while looking embarrassed "Oh no we don't get guests ever, what do I do with guests..."
> Keep smiling warmly and speak in a friendly&soothing encouraging tone troughout,with other fairy maids as well: " Hello! Ahah we are just small-time guests ! ".
> " I am Rumia and these here,except Wriggle for now absent for another duty,are all my friends, a group too - waving hand gesture and briefly look at them giving some pause - would you like to tell us your name for acquaintance,miss fairy maid ?
> After presentations&co: " (Address by the pink-haired foyer fairy maid's name,if told) Do tell in particular to Milady Remilia or any of the ladies in charge on her behalf,after you and maybe others have escorted us to that place-for-waiting...
: ... Rumia&Group,except Wriggle temporarly, have come with fairly good news about the Chief Maid Miss Sakuya,who's being healed, and the situation with... "Elis" " .
> "Mh-mh ,ah sorry for this last one : " Has there been words about an Eientei Rabbit Messenger sent by Doctor Eirin already arrived here or on the way back?"
>Smile warmly at the fairy.
>"Perhaps just escort us to a place where we can wait and tell your mistress or someone else with high authority that we're here?"
> Wait warmly while fairies try their best to run the mansion with Sakuya away
>Blink
>"...She knows her head maid isn't here, yet she goes off to ask her anyway. Does anyone else want to stay here for a few minutes just to see where this goes? I mean, it would be rude to just barge in anyway."
> Step half inside the door
> Look at the ones goofing about
> Say in a warm and welcoming way "You know, it would really help the head maid if you helped the others. You could also finish much faster that way" Point then towards the ones who are working
// My post on encouraging the fairies goofing off to help was missed likely due to it being on the next page. Since it most likely didn't affect the total outcome I'll continue and the result can be edited in or skipped
> Walk next to Mayina while in the mansion
> Follow up the stairs and head left at the branch in the staircase
// I'm might be a little over cautious here but I don't want Elis to be pulling the old bait-n-switch on us via an illusion or simply because its dark and we can't see.
> Silently thank Shinki for restoring ourthermal visionnight sight
> Inspect the room before walking in as this might be an illusion or trap by Elis, look especially carefully at darker parts of the room for possible lackeys or minions waiting to jump on us. Do this in a casual and carefree way, pretending to be fascinated by the ornate nature of the room. Can never be too careful these days... If we do notice something off don't panic just casually reach into our pockets (pretending to be shy) for Moonlight Ray
> Proceed up to Remilia (remembering to be polite and bow) and take another look at the room from this angle pretending to be looking at our party following us
> Just as we're about to ask if Remilia is alright we remember her big ego and refrain from belittle-ing her, instead lets talk about Sakuya
> "Sakuya is well but she'll need time to recover as shes lost a lot of blood. Elis retreated when the dawn broke since she apparently didn't know light is harmful to vampires, however I'm worried she'll come back at night for revenge."
> "Pardon me for using the wrong word, not so much revenge but more like "finishing off" those that got away">Wait on this.
> After pausing to think for a bit "She was after Alice the puppeteer that lives in the Forest of Magic, specifically she wanted to steal a magic book from her. It seems that Elis is even more of a kleptomaniac than Marisa, especially after what you said about your javelin. However unlike Marisa she is extremely devious, as she tried to use a knock-out illusion on us to take the book."
> "Speaking of your javelin, we'll help you get it back if we can in any way. Is there anything we need to know about it like if its locatable, or emits energy or what to expect if she tries to throw it at us. We'll keep the fact that she stole it a secret, as others might try and reclaim it for themselves"
// Add (side) quest: "Find Remilia's Gungir Javelin which was stolen by another vampire named Elis"
> "She then became interested in me because the darkness I emit somehow blocks her illusions. So she challenged me to hit her once with three of my most powerful moves and she managed to time them all out with perfect movement. I did play a little trick on her though, I didn't actually use any of my spell cards and imitated them with danmaku as I wasn't sure if she knew that I would have been in a trance giving her time to steal the book and get away with it. Later at Eientei I asked Eirin more about my darkness and she took a blood sample which immediately turned into a gas then darkness itself and then completely disappeared when she put it up against a light, so maybe that has something to do with my darkness shielding from her illusions?"
> "Speaking of your javelin, we'll help you get it back if we can in any way. Is there anything we need to know about it like if its locatable, or emits energy or what to expect if she tries to throw it at us. We'll keep the fact that she stole it a secret, as others might try and reclaim it for themselves">This part is fine.
// Add (side) quest: "Find Remilia's Gungir Javelin which was stolen by another vampire named Elis"
> "Pardon me for using the wrong word, not so much revenge but more like "finishing off" those that got away"
> After pausing to think for a bit "She seems to have followed or tracked us after fighting you and ambushed us while we were at Alice the Puppeteer's house talking to her with some powerful instant-knockout illusion magic in an attempt to steal from us"
> "She then became interested in me because the darkness I emit somehow blocks her illusions. So she challenged me to hit her once with three of my most powerful moves and she managed to time them all out with perfect movement. I did play a little trick on her though, I didn't actually use any of my spell cards and imitated them with danmaku as I wasn't sure if she knew that I would have been in a trance giving her time to steal the book and get away with it. Later at Eientei I asked Eirin more about my darkness and she took a blood sample which immediately turned into a gas then darkness itself and then completely disappeared when she put it up against a light, so maybe that has something to do with my darkness shielding from her illusions?"//I think we should say that she was looking for something we were trying to protect, but not get into any specifics. Nor do I believe we should namedrop Alice. As an extra security measure we should probably send anyone not involved (read: Sumireko) out of the room.
> "Speaking of your javelin, we'll help you get it back if we can in any way. Is there anything we need to know about it like if its locatable, or emits energy or what to expect if she tries to throw it at us. We'll keep the fact that she stole it a secret, as others might try and reclaim it for themselves"
// Add (side) quest: "Find Remilia's Gungir Javelin which was stolen by another vampire named Elis"
>Parse this:
>"Hmm, abilities... Well she used some kind of light illusion to knock everyone out. I think I wasn't affected due to the darkness that's usually around me blocking the attack. It made her a bit interested in me, so she decided to 'play' with me for a few attacks. Do you think there's any way to counter it without constantly having darkness over you? Because if she manages to catch us by surprise again she could take many combatants out of the fight before it even starts."
//The following is what I was going to post before you replied, which is about in line with what I had in mind.
>Parse the following only with approval:
>"As for your other question... Sumireko, would you mind leaving the room for a few minutes?"
>If she agrees, and once we're sure she can't hear us:
>"...She was after an object we were trying to protect, as well as possibly its owner. For the sake of secrecy and protecting the identity of its owner, I won't go into any more details. Please understand. Anyway she found us right when we found them -- or she followed us and remained undetected somehow, I'm still not sure which. -- and that's when she used the illusion spell that knocked everyone but me out."
> Confused ask "Her fate ... is too great? How much of a someone's fate are you able to see?"
> "Would it possible to reflect the illusion back to the one that cast it with something mirror-like?"
> "I think it would be a good idea to warn the folks at Myouren temple so Elis no longer has the element of surprise. Eientei is probably too hard for her to find so she might go for an easier pick first since what she steals might make it easier to access other places like Eientei."
>"Wait... Do you think Eientei could be a target? We have people there at the moment, as well as your Maid..."
> "The head monk of Myouren has connections to Shinki and Makai. If I recall what I heard correctly; she was imprisoned within Makai for around a millennium. She likely is already aware of the situation. The question would be what side she is on."
> "Ah,regarding the Myouren Temple,I am recalling they were wary of the Heretic Makaians since when we..."visited" earler we felt there was a new barrier but not against Youkai ,it was set-up around the time when the Invasion started and Byakuren herself was strangely busy&unavailable deep inside the Temple without prior notice ;all of these has to be connected ".>Don't namedrop Alice or the Grimoire, for all we know there may be a nosy fairy maid or Sumireko nearby.
> " Mmmh,so the best way for Alice and the Eientei itself,which Alice is currently staying at ,to stay protected from Elis, who has already become familiar with Alice's Grimoire "scent",would be for anyone from outside needing to travel to it to take precautions not to be tracked and the same for thise inside coming if they need to investigate the Bamboo Forest ?"
> " Well certainly a round of warnings to the Gensokyo People Possessing Great Artifacts ,and those close to them, is a good course of action even if only to confirm what they are already suspecting or know ".
>Don't namedrop Alice or the Grimoire, for all we know there may be a nosy fairy maid or Sumireko nearby.
>"But what if they teleported in or opened a portal directly into it? These rogue makaians have sorta appeared somewhat randomly all over gensokyo, after all."
// Reimu always wins (https://youtu.be/smJ_vDVOa-0?t=10) indeed!
> "Which side is she on... ? Why would she be on the heretic daemons side? Don't Buddhists love peace? All these daemons have done is cause trouble like attack the human village. I doubt they are on the daemons side since they setup a barrier specifically to prevent them from passing"
> "Do you think they might go after Reimu's Yin Yang Orbs? They are pretty much the most powerful weapon in Gensokyo, being able to obliterate any supernatural being"
> "Ah,regarding the Myouren Temple,I am recalling they were wary of the Heretic Makaians since when we..."visited" earler we felt there was a new barrier but not against Youkai ,it was set-up around the time when the Invasion started and Byakuren herself was strangely busy&unavailable deep inside the Temple without prior notice ;all of these has to be connected ".
> " Mmmh,so is the the best way for That Person with A Great Fate - ah, sorry if I am still keeping the who&what vague but we both know and it is to avoid any leaks - and the Eientei itself,which That Person is currently at ,to stay protected from Elis, who has already become familiar with That Person's Artifact's "Scent ",would be for travelers in need to take precautions and double-checks not to be tracked and for those inside to come out with the same precautions and only in the immediate sorroundings ?"
> " Well certainly a round of warnings to the Gensokyo People Possessing Great Artifacts ,and those close to them, is a good course of action even if only to confirm what they are already suspecting or know ".
>"Oh, we didn't try to enter with him. There was another Makaian who came to Gensokyo earlier who was on our side. She's back in Makai now, though."
>"Is that so, Mayina? What do you mean by stifling?"
> Wonder what Louise is up to...
> "You don't have to fight in the way we think about it, one can help in other ways like by researching how these portals are penetrating our world's barrier so the problem can be stopped at its source"
> "Or Reimu could help simply by staying alive, considering this isn't the typical risk-free danmaku incident"
> "Maybe design a system that encourages responsible lending instead of wasting your time in vain trying to keep her out. When a dedicated thief like Marisa wants something they'll get it one way or another so why fight the inevitable? A thief will always choose the path of least resistance when trying to obtain something so all you'd have to do is make sure its way easier to return a book before taking another rather than circumvent the system". That way you get a win-win situation where Marisa is no longer destroying the mansion on each break-in, Patchouli isn't over-exhausting herself constantly in the pointless effort of trying to keep her out and most importantly books are being returned and not gone"
> "A design I've thought of is a physical barrier around the mansion that only allows a book to leave if the total magical power and weight contained in all of the bookshelves is larger than a specific amount, so she'd have to return a book before taking another or simply read within the library like a normal person would" To help explain our design make a sphere barrier in our hand with one small darkness sphere inside and one outside, then move the darkness sphere in and out of the physical barrier, dropping the physical barrier when its inside and restoring it when its outside
>Patent this design as "Rumia's Lending Library Barrier 2000" and sell it to libraries across Gensokyo and Makai!
> "...Point taken . I and all of us at this point are wondering about Byakuren Hijiri for the good and for the bad;surely the Myouren&Guests should now pieces here and there".
> " Ah-ah,Of course that Good Makaian has proven herself to be reliable and helpful,especially when conflicts and big questioning had erupted, so presently she truly had been back for sometime helping checking back on Makai for another help in settling this Special Incident on their end".
> " Yes agreed we are getting more familiar with Eientei and their concealment though I am also agreeing their security could have side-effects if it focus too much on Concealment and Limited to the Vast Majority of the Bamboo Forest ".
> " Aaand,whenever it is feasible,complete or even bettered-up,no forgetting every book&important objects in Miss'Patchouli 's Library should be linked and trackable to the Same Library by that Special Linked-Tuned Barrier,even though Marisa would need to trade 1 for 1 thus coming to terms without loopholes to slip through; not that she would not try for Usefulfness but she still should come to...Would she ?
> "I doubt they had any anti Makaian barriers or spells set up there since they didn't really know about Makai. One possible explanation I can think of is that in the house of eternity your magical energy becomes eternal and the only way to make something finite eternal is to never subtract from it"
> "Borrowing until the end of her life? That sounds more like stealing to me, isn't giving something back in-person part of borrowing? Unless being a ghost counts as in-person too" Chuckle a little at the last bit
> "Perhaps she could use the magic of the books themselves to sustain the barrier?"
> "Some are actually investigating this incident on their side"
> "A request? Certainly!"
>"Sure. What is it?"
>"Just so you know, it might be risky. In addition to the rogue faction there that's been causing so much trouble, supposedly an inquisition or something is supposed to start soon in response to it, if it hasn't already. Koakuma could potentially get caught in the crossfire."
> "I agree with reconnaissance being the best first course of action instead of doing what Reimu would do and attack everyone on sight demanding they give you back your javelin"
>"Just so you know, it might be risky. In addition to the rogue faction there that's been causing so much trouble, supposedly an inquisition or something is supposed to start soon in response to it, if it hasn't already. Koakuma could potentially get caught in the crossfire."
// The best course of action would be to accompany Koakuma in Full Group(-Wriggle) ,leaving Mayna temporarily behind either to Patchouli&SDM or at Eientei,however the Gensokyo-end Portals are better off closed(unless Special Cases)and they would send us in different places than Koakuma anyways... //.
// In this case then we should really ask Patchouli herself to find a method,with help from others, to send with Koakuma even with just a selected part,Mayna and Wriggle excluded,of the actual group but it is yet to see to what extent //.
> " It is a nice idea and sentiment in itself but due to Times Being Even More Teoubled in Makai, how about also asking Lady Patchouli if there is way to send us ,or at least some of us ,to accompany Koakuma ? "
> " That way Koakuma's Birthplace Knowledge could be joined with That of Our Recent Run-Ins With Both Bad and Good Makaians ".
> Be somewhat surprised at Kogasa's suggestion>"Hmm... I mean, it's an idea, but we have no idea if you'd be able to get back. The main entrance is sealed from this side, remember? There really wouldn't be a way for us to reach you if you go with Koakuma..."
> "That's an idea!"
> "Perhaps the rest of us could travel from another route and then we all meet up somewhere? Perhaps Paradise?"
> "Don't forget we've yet to investigate Mayina's portal and explore where it connects to"
> Come to think of it we still have to report back to Yumeko and assure her the Grimoire is safe
//I actually forgot Kogasa was there :V
>"Hmm... I mean, it's an idea, but we have no idea if you'd be able to get back. The main entrance is sealed from this side, remember? There really wouldn't be a way for us to reach you if you go with Koakuma..."
//I actually forgot Kogasa was there :V
>"Hmm... I mean, it's an idea, but we have no idea if you'd be able to get back. The main entrance is sealed from this side, remember? There really wouldn't be a way for us to reach you if you go with Koakuma..."
> Be somewhat surprised at Kogasa's suggestion
> "That's an idea!"
> "Perhaps the rest of us could travel from another route and then we all meet up somewhere? Perhaps Paradise?"
> "Don't forget we've yet to investigate Mayina's portal and explore where it connects to"
> Come to think of it we still have to report back to Yumeko and assure her the Grimoire is safe
//I actually forgot Kogasa was there :V
>"Hmm... I mean, it's an idea, but we have no idea if you'd be able to get back. The main entrance is sealed from this side, remember? There really wouldn't be a way for us to reach you if you go with Koakuma..."
> Specify :" Kogasa,there are are both Upsides&Downsides to thao,and so ,as Lady Remilia wisely said,we should go asking&planning all together with Lady Patchouli but also Koakuma ".
// My suggestion&vote is the same as my command,extendable and adaptable all together to boot // .
// In the end , it is Alright to be Checking out the Near-Frozen (?) Mayina's Portal BUT it is a Makai Heretic Portal,or at least Vulnerable and Unreliable to Rumia&co&"Gensokyans" : going through it without ,so to speak," Backfires" is only Feasible when and if there are Fairly Strong Guards and/or Tuned-in Protections and/or Safe Passage on 1 Side and at least partly so on the Other//....
// I agree we have to report&listen as soon as we have Communication, Capable Contacts (A "" Prepared Pair of Koakuma&Kogasa "" ?? ) or entrance to Makai, quite a bit to Yumeko,and particularly to Shinki by Yumeko or not; remindable is also Remilia's Gugnir stolen in Makai by Elis/Heretics,as well the situation about Remilia,Flandre,Elis,the Overall consequences&contermeasures&effects,etc.//
> Cheerfully wave and say "Hey Flan!"
> Playfully explain "Cause she's both there and also not really there at the same time! I didn't find her very appetizing either!"
> "If you're able to summon both of them back then sure! If we learned anything from the bandits, there's safety in numbers in Makai"
> "In the mean time the rest of us will re-investigate Mayina's portal, its entirely possible someone else came through while we were gone and left some evidence or leads that will be useful in our investigation!"
> "Daiyousei is right that was a while ago, addiyionally someone who can use lasers could have gotten through as lasers can shatter ice"
> "Why don't we go talk to miss Patchouli and see if she's feeling up to it today"
> Bow and leave before realizing we don't know where to go and returning to ask "Where is she?"
> "Daiyousei is right that was a while ago, addiyionally someone who can use lasers could have gotten through as lasers can shatter ice"
> "Why don't we go talk to miss Patchouli and see if she's feeling up to it today"
> Bow and leave before realizing we don't know where to go and returning to ask "Where is she?"
> Of course we should also talk about " feasible security&communication measures" and be ready to give out that useful info to report to Koakuma and Kogasa.
> Smile while looking between Lady Remilia, Flandre and Sumireko : "
Oh-oh, and is it possible for Flandre and Sumireko to be coming to the meeting as well? Naturally if they want to ".
> Don't mention or hint at Alice's doll communication when mentioning ways to communicate with Koakuma and Kogasa
> Find Patchouli after Remilia tells us where to find her
>"Now now, Cirno. It's not necessarily your worst nightmare. You aren't being forced to read all of them, are you?"
> Take a few moments to just stare in amazement
> "Woah..."
> If we can't seem to spot Patchouli see if we can figure out some pattern as to which the books and bookshelves are arranged, or any empty spots in the distance.
> After having a look from above the stairs walk down the left stair and have a look around
> Make sure Cirno, Kogasa and Mayina don't touch anything! Form a physical barrier in front of them if the try to and remind them that its rude to look through other people's stuff
> Wave at Koakuma and say "Would you know where miss Patchouli is?"
> Atleast we have an excuse!
> Whisper "Lady Remilia sent us to discuss the possibility of you revisiting Makai as you could get a better understanding of the situation, as Elis has managed to steal Remilia's javelin"
> Whisper "Unless you have any objections to temporarily returning to Makai?"
>Who would we trust enough to watch him if he is indeed staying behind?
> Daiyousei wouldn't even stand a chance against him, whereas Mystia is stronger and can at least alert us with some birds if she's overwhelmed
> "If it makes you that uncomfortable"
> "Mystia could you please keep him company then?"
> Before leaving turn around and say in a serious but warm way "I trust you'll be alright without me for a little"
> Proceed to Miss Patchouli
> Somewhat anxiously say "Pardon the interruption"// At the appropriate time, we should also ask Patchouli for advices in using the Makai Portals in a safer way for Gensokyo.//
> "Lady Remilia wishes to send Koakuma back to Makai to perform a little reconnaissance, as Elis has stolen her javelin"
> "And Kogasa wants to join as her umbrella" and gesture towards Kogasa
> Somewhat anxiously say "Pardon the interruption"
> "Lady Remilia wishes to send Koakuma back to Makai to perform a little reconnaissance, as Elis has stolen her javelin"
> "And Kogasa wants to join as her umbrella" and gesture towards Kogasa
// At the appropriate time, we should also ask Patchouli for advices in using the Makai Portals in a safer way for Gensokyo.//
> Add: " And, if possible, there is to stay somehow in contact with them or track them, be it for helping them out from a distance in Gensokyo or for needing to help directly, while driving less attention, in Makai".
> We now have some experience within Makai but with just us, Cirno and Daiyousei
eventually going there until we join back up with Koakuma&Kogasa we should be more careful than before.
>"Elis is a very powerful vampire from Makai. She's thankfully still weak to the sun though. She has long blonde hair and a little star shaped red mark on her cheek."
> "*She's only weak in the daylight and by extension daytime though. Nothing's limiting her at night or in Makai (where there is no daylight)*"
> "Say you don't know if any methods of emitting daylight ... portably do you? Like you have to deal with Miss Flandre somehow?"
> "So any naturally moving water? What Would happen to her if we somehow got her to stand under a waterfall?"
> Try to remember if we saw any waterfalls at Youkai Mountain
> Fire laser like the ones from moonlight ray into the ground next to us
> "Why doesn't my Moonlight Ray give her sunburns? Isn't moonlight similar to sunlight?"
// Don't say the latter half if we don't know that moonlight is in fact reflected sunlight
> "You could level the mansion!? That's amazing!"
> Ask "Can we see it!?" like an enthusiastic kid
> After realizing our childish outbust say "Actually maybe Remilia wouldn't be as interested as we are"
> "The waterfall would still be extremely painful wouldn't it? Not to mention the physical force of such a large volume of water falling from a great height, it might even pin her down. I wonder if she would be willing to risk it for an object of interest placed behind the waterfall..."
> Smile devilishly as if we had cornered our dinner back in the day
> Make a mental note on there being something specific about sunlight that harms vampires
> Whisper "Keeps you around ... worth it?"
> Ask "But aren't you all like her best friends? That's not how think about your friends" in a somewhat sad tone
> Say "Well the water wouldn't weaken me! You forget about Youkai Strength!" like a child who's been told they aren't strong enough
> "If we're going to take out sneaky Elis we need to 'borrow' a few pages from her book!" Wink upon saying borrow
> "We might not be able to beat her in raw strength but that's not a problem if we approach this a different way. What if we trick her into eliminating herself? Or having an 'accident' hee hee!"
> "Back to the issue at hand though, do you think you can send Koa to Makai today?"
> "Certainly, anything else we can do to help?"
> Move the table and chair aside
> Maybe the waterfall isn't going to work unless we somehow block it's flow...
> When we get a free moment or when Patchouli is distracted with preparations or casting communicate discreetly with Alice
> "Say, you know those dolls with gunpowder you're good at making? Do you think you could make one that causes a real non magical explosion, like lethal stuff not danmaku? Something that level an area around the size of your house?"
> "Certainly, anything else we can do to help?"
> Move the table and chair aside
> Maybe the waterfall isn't going to work unless we somehow block it's flow...
> When we get a free moment or when Patchouli is distracted with preparations or casting communicate discreetly with Alice
> "Say, you know those dolls with gunpowder you're good at making? Do you think you could make one that causes a real non magical explosion, like lethal stuff not danmaku? Something that level an area around the size of your house?"
// If I am not misunderstanding it - sorry if I am and please do correct me - this "Bait&Trap Waterfall Trap" is a effective set-up due to "Exploiting Weaknesses" but on its own it would be incomplete leaving those involved surspringly vulnerable or even gettig caught in a dangerous double-edged, by Patchouli's counsel, and could get even more dangerous //.
> Discreetly as mentioed: " Oh-oh, Miss Alice, not as means to level something house-big, rather as a way to naturally block, build up and release water pressure as a possible way to fight off Elis".
> Nod as if saying 'go ahead'>Don't skip to them leaving, though.
>Turn to Kogasa
>"You're going to be okay, right?"
> Whisper to Alice "Just an idea on trying to setup a trap for Elis, sorry for bothering you. If you come up with a better idea on how to take her out let me know"
> "Maybe give her a pocket watch? So they know how much time they have left" // Non-blocking, if there is no pocket watch available continue as normal
> Nod as if saying 'go ahead'
// Not to spook,on the contrary,but I really hope this does not turn out as sending Koakuma&Kogasa in Makai,even for just 2-hours at the longest, with :ohdear: fewer team-mates and lower support they(and,indirectly,we) need causing great missed chances or even troublesome repercussions ... And so this kind of reply so far... //
> " Oh-oh ,before the Temporary Makai-Departure,could there be some way to have some communication or tracking between us here and them there ? "
[Are you guys intending to go with Kogasa/Koakuma or not? And are you wanting to control Kogasa to scout if you do not intend to send Rumia?]//Didn't even realize such was an option.
// Why don't we first just ask Patchouli if she can keep him in the library>Let's save this for now until we have a more concrete plan.
> Step up to Patchouli to talk discreetly
> "Miss Patchouli, if I were to go with Koakuma and Kogasa would you be able to confine the daemon I came in with to the library? If its too much trouble then don't worry about it"
// Why don't we first just ask Patchouli if she can keep him in the library
> Step up to Patchouli to talk discreetly
> "Miss Patchouli, if I were to go with Koakuma and Kogasa would you be able to confine the daemon I came in with to the library? If its too much trouble then don't worry about it"
//Okay, in the case of option 2, would it be exclusive control over Kogasa or will we still be able to control Rumia at the same time?
//Okay, in the case of option 2, would it be exclusive control over Kogasa or will we still be able to control Rumia at the same time?
> Give a meaningful look with a soft whisper to our current group including Flandre ,Tsalinn Comm. Doll and even Sumireko and then finally To Patchouli by saying: (//POLISHED//) ''Aah, to be safe, would it still be 2 hours even with 3, Kokakuma, Kogasa as Umbrella and myself, without further strain on you, Miss Patchouli, or drawing more attetion since more energies would be needed?"
// The Glitching Font-Size is still happening, just a reminder.
More impimportantly: we should await at least 4+Replies (Most of Players and Raikaria ) //.
//(POLISHED REPLIES) In any instance it is a span of time of 2 Hours+ The Report.
// The upsides for sending Kogasa-Main and Koakuma Main-Assist in Makai with Rumia Alt-Main(in Gensokyo) are less chances of Alerting Elis,Sariel(though it is not yet revealed) and the " Lesser Assaulting Heretics Defeated by Rumia Group" and to top it off: better "covert -ops" and more "smoothness" in commands and discussions IC and OC with the Gensokyo-Side still available through Rumia // .
//(These details could be summarized up to avoid over-thinking/complication) ...
However it would be somehow better for Rumia to go with them - in both cases we have to communicate to Alice&Wriggle,Rumia's Group to give and receive the necessary recommendations- since there does not seem to be matter of Great Concern/Interest (until the Sundown is near).
// It would be even better if Kogasa is to be Carried by Rumia as "Unfolded and Covering" with, as was hinted by Koakuma, Remilia and Patchouli anonymous Koa who could just be contracted and accompanyning her "employer(s).//
// Boons&Plans could be/are the split-ups&investigations which could be more fruitfu for "demi-covert-ops trio" IF went through up rightly.///
//The" 3io"would still be covert&operarive&"retrieving" (Gungir or Intel or Possibly Makai Important Reunion or Meet-Ups) //
// Of course Tsalinn, UNLESS Alice gives Condirmation that it is more Untraceable/Unsupectable than not in her Former Homeland for Makaians incl. the "no Beacon. for Materialazing, (Alice's Communication Doll) should Be temporarily given up not risking putting leads to not only Alice-Grimoire, Gensokyo's Artifacts,Rumia's Importance especially by her " Rehabilitating Unsealing"... //
// As there's no dual control Rumia should definitely go with them>Do not.
> Approach Patchouli
> "If it's not an inconvenience then I'd like to accompany them"
> "About the daemon, could you keep him within the library until we get back? He is indeed without a master."
> Whisper "Maybe he can be of use around the library while Koakuma is away? He's a little uncooperative but you might be able to motivate him with reward or punishment"
> Approach Kogasa and Koakuma after that
// I object, if Koakuma and Kogasa encounter Elis (who we know fled to Makai) and likely will considering they are searching for an item she stole they are guaranteed to be killed without us.//Using that same line of logic, having Rumia go back to Makai before we're intended to has a high chance of leading to a "Rocks fall, everyone dies" scenario. Especially considering that our presence there would do very little in the way of "protecting" them in that A. We cannot grant them our shields unless we were able to detect Elis in time, which we cannot do at the moment, B. We had almost no chance of winning against her in Gensokyo, and it took Sakuya and the Sun intervening in order to drive her off and look at what happened to Sakuya at the end of it, and C. She has limitless strength to draw on in her home turf, meaning it would be like the first encounter but on steroids.
// Remember Belial Illusion? Without our darkness they will be knocked out before they even know what happened and possibly killed or held hostage. We *have* to go in order to give them a fighting chance against Elis otherwise they might as well admit defeat here and now
// Since we only get control of one party and don't get to switch until this part is done there's no reason for Rumia not to go along, since she'd just idle at the SDM until we regained control otherwise. She has business she has to take care of personally anyways like informing Yumeko//Or we could give Kogasa autonomy and control Rumia in Gensokyo. Yumeko, while important, can wait until we're actually supposed to return to Makai. (That is, when the story gives us absolutely no other options but to enter Makai for whatever reason.)
> To Patchouli : " Alright and would 3 persons being materialized in Makai and once and together be too " revealing ?"
> We should "give a call " to Wriggle and Miss Alice in either one of the cases ?
> "Lady Patchouli could you tell us a number from zero to nine?"//
> If the number she picks is even even join Kogasa and Koakuma in the magic circle and if the number is odd step away from the magic circle
>Ask Alice that, in the event we did go to Makai, if the doll would be traceable to her and put her at risk.
>The doll is bound to our magic, right? Meaning only we can use it to talk to Alice and Wriggle?
>The doll is bound to our magic, right? Meaning only we can use it to talk to Alice and Wriggle?
>What about the second question?// She explained this earlier at Eientei. Remember we had to repeat what Sumireko said when we were letting Alice eavesdrop, meaning she can only hear us through it
// She explained this earlier at Eientei. Remember we had to repeat what Sumireko said when we were letting Alice eavesdrop, meaning she can only hear us through it
// Lets be straightforward with Alice
> "Do you trust me with the doll in Makai? If you have any concerns I'll entrust it to my friends here in Gensokyo"
>> If she trusts us with the doll in Makai
>> "If we never activate it they won't be able to trace it right? And woudlnt they have to be relatively close to us?"
>> "If we are in trouble but can't talk for some reason (like if someone's watching us closely) and there's a risk of them figuring out about the doll and you I'll start and break the communication 3 short times followed by one long time to warn you discreetly. You can do the same on your end if someone breaks into Eientei"
// It is risky since Elis could track down Alice without references....Who knows what the other Heretical Makaians could achieve by a Reference as close as that //
// Not that Eientei's haven would go down just like that and there is the Communications Boon,however Tsalinn alone would still be a Desirable Recognizable Foreign Item Attracting Perilous Attention due to Artifact Hunt ;and even more so when and if we come close to Gungir.
// Still...//
> " So That much of a telltale, unless there is some way for smart camouflaging since this kind of communication is ever-useful,would be an unnecessary hazard i,is that so Miss Alice?"
> To Alice "I understand, I'll be entrusting Riga to Mystia then."
> Approach Mystia and hand over the doll
> "I'll entrust you with Riga until we return"
> Return to Patchouli and tell her "Ready"
> Patiently hand it over with care to Mystia peacefully reassuring her that this trust,as that of our group and in here, is well placed.>Let's consider the pros and cons of Mystia vs Daiyousei first before coming to a decision. Besides, we haven't decided whether or not we're actually going to makai anyway.
> Also Consider the Sights of how everyone is doing,hopefully well,or seems to be going as there is a little window of time
// Could you reference pros and cons instead of objecting without presenting facts?//I was referring to the eventual response to this:
>Consider if Mystia or Dai would be the most rational person to leave it with out of those assembled in the event we DID end up going to Makai...
>Consider if Mystia or Dai would be the most rational person to leave it with out of those assembled in the event we DID end up going to Makai...
>Wonder if Cirno's ice around Mayina's portal has melted yet.
> To Alice "I understand, I'll be entrusting Riga to Mystia then."
> Approach Mystia and hand over the doll
> "I'll entrust you with Riga until we return"
> Return to Patchouli and tell her "Ready"
> Patiently hand it over with care to Mystia peacefully reassuring her that this trust,as that of our group and in here, is well placed.
> Also Consider the Sights of how everyone is doing,hopefully well,or seems to be going as there is a little window of time
>Let's consider the pros and cons of Mystia vs Daiyousei first before coming to a decision. Besides, we haven't decided whether or not we're actually going to makai anyway.
//Meh. I suppose Makai it is, but if things go to hell I'm blaming you :P> Discreetly eat said candy as Patchouli might find it rude to start snacking while she's working hard
>"You all look after yourselves while you're gone, okay?"
>Look to Patchouli
>"Will we be getting warnings when it's nearing the time to come back?"
> Good advice by Kogasa and by extension "Luci".
> Recall what our " First Landing" in Makai was like and especially what we lastly learned from experience and known of friendly Makaians particularly if so Helpful Artifact-Related because of the " Gungir Mission "
> Koakuma should certainly have some Neatly Helpful memories&past experiences but it would better to first get each other thoughts&bearings in order in Makai before asking.
> Contemplate what Koakuma just said as we dreadfully realize what this means...
> whisper to ourselves in shock "Could this be Vina? Someone tell me I'm wrong..."
> If this is true then everyone Koakuma knew and her home is gone, and they were the reason she was so excited to come back to Makai
> "We can't be sure, what if someone interfered with the spell?"
> Give Koakuma a moment to compose herself
> Does the liquid bear resemblance to our blood from Eirin's experiment? When Koakuma composes herself see if we can inspect it up closely and maybe ask her about it
>Fidget.
>"Someone I met told me of a ruin called Vina..."
>>Allow someone else to add on to this sentence because I cannot recall exactly what Louise said about it.
>Give Koa a hug.
>"I'm sorry for your loss..."
> "Speaking of which, after we left Makai she claimed she was going to return to her home here and rest, so it might be a good idea to look for her"
> Inspect area, any objects of importance?
> Do we see any buildings that stand out? Can we discern where the "center of town" was or maybe their library?
> If there's no ghosts in Makai, then she's the only one. I'm not sure what she was before she became a ghost though"
> Time to play detective and investigate what happened in Vina
> Considering the position of the fallen rubble do we think the damage to all the buildings was caused by a centralized blast?
> Inspect scars on the ground, what do we think made them? Shrapnel and debris grazing the ground?
> Inspect statue closely, does the damage appear generalized or does it look like it was focused on a particular part. Additionally how come a small statue like this is still standing? Does it look like someone moved it of set it upright again?
> Make a mental note to visit the large better kept building later
> "I suggest we follow in the direction opposite of the rubble falling so we can ascertain if an explosion was the cause of the destruction"
> Follow that direction and try and figure out the origin of the blast
> "I don't understand it either, but there's lots of things I don't understand here, which is why I wanted to come back to Makai"
> So the blast center seems to be towards the Temple...
> Keep a close eye on the marks on the ground, do we think they were made by raining down magical projectiles or something physically being dragged or swiped across the surface? Would they maybe resemble a crater on one end?
> Is there any evidence pointing to a conflict having taken place in the city? Like were the residents fighting back and simply lost the battle or does it look more like a one sided slaughter?
> "The residents probably never stood a chance though judging from the proportions of damage. It's hard to even comprehend who or what could cause destruction on this scale..."
> "The lack of bodies is troubling but also evidence in itself... There had to have been *a lot* of them so why did the culprit go to such great efforts to get rid of any traces of them? Either the bodies had crucial evidence pointing to the culprit like the cause of death *or* the method the culprit used on its own leaves no bodies, which could be useful in seriously narrowing down the possible culrpits based on who is and isn't capable of such a feat"
> Make a mental "suspects list" starting with everyone we know and cross out everyone who we're certain *isn't* capable of killing someone without leaving a body or blood"
> While moving look for anything else interesting that might tell us more about what happened
>"Does anybody else feel that? I feel both like we're being watched, and that some kind of powerful presence is here..."
>Glance behind us.
>If it's somehow Elis, do we think that we can instantly put up darkness or barriers around everyone to block a belial illusion?
>>If so, and it's Elis, do it.
//This seem like an okay plan, Tom?
// Of course! That's one of the reasons we're here, to counter belial illusion. Instead of making multiple barriers, try to make one larger one since there's only 3 of us, we're close to each other and Makai is naturally darker
> Glance behind by casually glancing to our side and using our peripheral vision to see behind us so its not obvious
> If we notice someone behind us that's not Elis act oblivious as if we didn't notice them and instead mark them on our compass-barrier with a tiny darkness sphere behind the center (us) so Kogasa and Koakuma know there's someone behind us without them turning around (and alerting the person that we noticed them)
//Oh hello YuugenMagan. Looking as beautifully eldritch as ever today.>Friendly wave at the spot where the eye was, maybe they're just shy!
>Keep our guard up.
>Wince.
> Also say somewhat loudly "Nothing really, just watching our back as usual"
// Shorten that down to this and whisper it
> Whisper "I think I saw some kind of eye apparition appear, we don't know if they're hostile or just cautious, after all we're new here and this is Makai. Let's just act oblivious while keeping our guard up"
> Keep looking around for clues as to what happened here while also making sure no bullets are headed our way
> Try and respond by thinking of saying "Because we're not here to provoke or cause trouble, we're just investigating what happened here"//We're not sure the context behind the why yet.
>Blink. Did we imagine a voice in our head just now?
> Look around in surprise for a bit before realizing the voice in in our head
> Try and respond by thinking of saying ...
//We're not sure the context behind the why yet.
>Let's hold on this for now, a simple ~Hello?~ will suffice until it responds.
> Think "We're to investigate what happened, this used to be a friend's home... we apologize if we're intruding"//It's less investigating, more passing through.
// Change to
Think "We're just curious about what happened, this used to be a friend's home... we apologize if we're intruding"
> Think ~~Well we don't really have a reason to be here other than curiosity... Which way is Paradise then? Do you know if anyone else resides our here? ~~
> If she isn't responding because she's refocused on Koakuma just say the above out loud
> One of the eyes turns to you.
> ~Paradise is days of travel away, Outworlder.~ the voice says. ~I know of one being that resides here still.~
> The eyes look at Koakuma for a few more moments, before all but one of them, the one in the Temple ruins, close and vanish.
> ~The Koa says that you came here seeking something that was stolen.~ the voice says in your mind. ~I can direct you towards the location of the culprit... I would rather not such a powerful relic be in the hands of that... Lunatic.~
>~~I take it you don't like her either?~~
>~~What is your name, by the way?~~
// Not so wary and closed-off,let us be REASONABLY&PROPERLY more trusty and sincere;we are still going to test and prepare as able but at the same time,please,we should give the heads-up to the circa "2-hour transworldler limiter " ,knowing we are still only a few minutes in,set by Patchouli.
//
> Think :" Oh,goody,an help against that Lunatic, Elis ? Especially one that would be stopping fallout ALONGSIDE aiding both the long-time and new friends ?Really Thanks! "
>"And Forgive me if I had been too wary since I am still inexperienced,this being my 2nd mandatory journey and both of them are going to amount to an handful of hours with the company of a unexpected but very welcome guide from in 1st one and other"unexpected" knowlege,but I have come to learn that Here there is quite the share of Dangers&Hazards for the majority and now... Recent Troubles".
> "Say "this afterwards if the indications are about to be given :"Really thanks,and it is also helpful to know about the other Ruins Resident ...could she be..."
> Louise-Thinking
> ~Who is that one other being you mentioned resides here?~
> ~Oh we are acquaintances, could you please tell us where we can find her?~>Only say this if YuugenMagan confirms its Louise
> ~~Well, it's nice to meet you YuugenMagan.~~
>Smile
> ~~By the way, about this lingering dead you mentioned: Do you happen to know if that person goes by the name Louise?~~
// I find Firefox to be the best at avoiding timeouts
> ~Change? What would be some things you are dissatisfied with currently? I might be an outsider but I want to understand more about the issues troubling Makai~
> A heretic with a conscience ... huh
> ~Oh we are acquaintances, could you please tell us where we can find her?~
// This is shaping up to require and having possibilities of diplomacy ,which at least with YuugenMagan (and Sariel ?)" might "be possible ,besides a need for additional securing even after retrieving Remilia's Gungnir while still in Makai //
// So far the "powerful named Heretics'' found : Elis and Sariel (not fully revealed and needing a clear-out on her stance) in Gensokyo on the "same expedition", YuugenMagan last in Makai //
> Magicians and...we should be telling Miss Alice and Miss Patchouli about YuugenMagan then.
> Do Kogasa&Koakuma seem to be getting the gist of this "conversation"?
> In fact ,where are they right now?
> ~We thank you, you've been very helpful unlike most people we've met outside Paradise who take a shoot first and ask questions later approach~
> ~I see, you're trying to be reasonable in between two unreasonable extremes. I really wish we could help resolve this peacefully somehow but as you can probably tell we're neither very influential nor strong, just your below average Youkai. There's several problems from what I've understood so far (feel free to correct me), with the most important being that everyone *including Shinki* is bound by the currently established rules meaning even if the "Cult" you claim is acting against her will there's little she can do about it.~
> ~Venturing into other worlds like ours however is attracting a lot of unwanted attention not only to your cause but to Makai as a whole. While we don't mind visitors in Gensokyo there's some strict rules we've all agreed upon in our world which prohibit lethal magic and killing among other things. We also have some very aggressive so called "Incident Resolvers" which will stop at nothing until they exterminate whatever is threatening our world, if they realize there's trouble originating from Makai they could easily come here and start exterminating innocents on sight until they reach someone they consider to be the "culprit". They've grown stronger and more numerous over the years and rumor has it they've never failed to resolve an "incident"... I really don't want our world to get involved and mess things up further here, as the situation is already fragile~
> What do we know about the " Cult of Shinki "? Did Louise or yumeko or anyone in Makai previously mention it?
> ~ " Uh...could you please give me an example about what wishes or changes the "Cult of Shinki" consider to be ... "Heretical ? " ~
>Blink at the implied mention of Reimu
>~~You've met her?~~
> ~That all made sense and sounded very reasonable. In their pursuit to protect freedom they've become the tyrants even if they don't realize it~
> ~How do you believe lady Shinki views your actions?~
> ~~I believe so too~~
> ~~Have you by chance found or enlisted anyone other than Elis to help with your cause?~~
> ~~I see, we weren't asking for privileged information, just wanted to know if the average Makaian agrees enough with your cause to assist you~~
> ~~We'll get out of your way then and try and get that javelin back and away from Elis~~
> Nod then turn and ask Koakuma and Kogasa "Lets find Louise and see if she's willing to help us with the javelin"
> ~~I see, we weren't asking for privileged information, just wanted to know if the average Makaian agrees enough with your cause to assist you~~
> ~~We'll get out of your way then and try and get that javelin back and away from Elis~~
> Nod then turn and ask Koakuma and Kogasa "Lets find Louise and see if she's willing to help us with the javelin"
~~ Truly express a sincere and a mite embarrassed expainful apology : Sorry,really,my and my friends' intention is only ,due to necessities here and there, to know how to quite carefully tread and act in a still new Edgy Environment, save for Koa who is from a Makai of a ... distant past somehow... in order to help resolve the harrowing damages and interferences on our end, like explained ~~
~~ Helping along and getting helped is very nifty too WITHOUT getting full of ourselves or stumbling about like klutzes or ending duped... ~~
~~ And for all those sakes,please, do you know a better way for that Vampire Clans Cove in the Bay and if possible the whereabouts Ghost Noble ,Louise ? ~~
>"Hi Louise!"
>"We're here because a dangerous vampire name Elis came to our world and stole a weapon from someone, so a friend of that person sent her koa familiar back to makai to possibly retrieve the weapon and Kogasa and I volunteered to go with her."
>Frown
>"As for why we're in Vina, well... the magician who sent us here sent us to the place where Koakuma was summoned from, and we ended up here. It seems that Vina was Koakuma's old home..."
// We're on Louise's side even if she's a bit excessive when it comes to faith, we were being nice to YuugenMagan because she was nice to us but that doesn't mean we've switched sides to the heretics, sure we agree on some of their points but they are mostly violent and are violating Gensokyo's most important rules//I think we should befriend ygmg. As a less radical heretic she might be a way towards a peaceful negotiation route.
>"Hi Louise!"
>"We're here because a dangerous vampire name Elis came to our world and stole a weapon from someone, so a friend of that person sent her koa familiar back to makai to possibly retrieve the weapon and Kogasa and I volunteered to go with her."
>Frown
>"As for why we're in Vina, well... the magician who sent us here sent us to the place where Koakuma was summoned from, and we ended up here. It seems that Vina was Koakuma's old home..."
> Stand in thought for a moment
> "Did you get the bubble filter back?"
> Say everything with our usual carefree attitude
> "That's certainly a possibility, judging from my encounter with her, she knocked out everyone except me because of my darkness. Instead of focusing on her objective though she was more interested in "entertaining" herself by dodging my 3 best attacks, all of which failed to impress her. She would have attacked me for real right after if it wasn't for Sakuya"
> In a somewhat shocked voice say
> "Which brings me to another point, we caught her off guard with the sun and she had to retreat, I don't know what someone like her would do were we to meet again..."
> "Well she seemed to be in pain, which felt well deserved after what she put me through..."
> Add anything else remarkable we remember
> "Well she seemed to be in pain, which felt well deserved after what she put me through..."
> Add anything else remarkable we remember
:wat: :flamingv: :ohdear:
>Think-Think,Express-Express Genuine Attitude :" Mhmh... Elis a Vampire,even and still as Original Demon One from Makai , should need to Regenerate and Adjust as you fairly suggested,Louise;still Very Much Dangerously Capable with her Magic and active Belial Illusion and yet she was Off-Balance,quite Painfully&Fearfully Surprised : all due to her Sun-Hit Body Parts being Continuously on Fire,a Spreading One for until "Hotly Sun-Beamed"...."
> "Then ah-so-zoomy and fiery retreat to the Wood Shadows she did not even Fired or Fight back to my Chasing-Off Danmaku ! "
>" Ah-Uh, though i did not actually tried to Chase Her and start some Meanest Desperate Reprisal around the Wood Shadows..."
>... "aaah most importantly, after a more of less brief while ,she disappeared from there to here: her Materialization in Gensokyou being - Thank All the Heaven ! - debunked at the time !"
> In surprise at the appearance of the mirror inspect it visually, does it look the same as the last time we saw it?
> In low voice whisper to Louise "I was thinking of some way to trap Elis in the scorching sun, would you happen to have any ideas, tools or spells that could help us with that? Like some way to restrict movement or something that reflects sunlight and can constantly track/aim"
> "Alright, so we'll perform the burglary while you take care of any fighting needed"
> In low voice whisper to Louise "We're here via a summoning spell that will end the moment we touch the javelin, so don't be surprised if we vanish when we touch it"
// Yess, more updates!
> Whisper "Well I've thought of 2 traps, the first one uses our world's spell card system against her, by invoking a spell card you create an impenetrable barrier around yourself and the enemy likely with the power of our world's barrier, the question then is how to one survives long enough for the sunlight to harm her, the other involved using an explosive to change the flow of water to pin her down"
> "So what's the plan? Should we sneak in through some back door?"
> Enthusiastically respond "Lets do this!" and fly off
> While on the way respond to Louise's concerns about the traps
> "Only the one person needs to invoke a spellcard to create an impenetrable barrier around the two. The only issue is surviving in the barrier with Elis for the duration of the spell"
> "For the water I thought what if we used some bait, like a powerful artifact, tempting enough to steal placed at the bottom of a waterfall we block or redirect. Since Elis isn't from Gensokyo she wouldn't know a waterfall is normally there, and while shes stealing the artifact we destroy the blockage upstream and let the water pin her down"
> As we approach the building take note of any interesting features, like what the walls and foundations are made of, any windows, cracks or signs of weakened walls
> Squeeze through sideways as shown while muttering "Maybe the human free diet wasn't so bad after all..."
> Once inside inspect the room we are in
> "Well I can't say she's got taste, Remilia's mansion is so much nicer"
> Is anything we see or smell remotely appetizing?
> Anything we can steal?
> "Well I can't say she's got taste, Remilia's mansion is so much nicer"
> Is anything we see or smell remotely appetizing?
> Anything we can steal?
> WAIT .
> Observe and try to sense if there is any item looking useful or notable or odd but not cumbersome or prone to noise .
> Low tone to Louise : " Louise,can you sense by magic or do you know from experience if there is anything useful in here to help us and that would not send a warning to Elis "?
> If we do have do some assurance and potential utility ,go ahead.
>"See something interesting, Koakuma?"
> "Might as well 'borrow' it then, I'd love to know more about whats beyond the barrier"
> Point at the book for Louise "Unless you object Louise?"
> "Also after we're done here could you let miss Yumeko know about this place? She's desperate to find any information on the heretics"
> Be on the lookout for a small knife (small enough one can hide it in their sleeve)
> In the mean time open the door just enough to take a peek through the crack, if it creaks or makes a sound stop moving it immediately
> Take the knife, we can fix it when we get back. It can still pierce better than a spoon with enough force right?
> If we see something to wrap it in take that too and wrap it, otherwise store it blade facing up to not rip our pocket
> Proceed to the spiral staircase
> Whisper "Any ideas which way we should go?"
> Cheerfully reply "Fine with me!"
> Proceed down carefully to not make more noise than necessary
> Inspect new room (if there is a door peek through it after Louise does any necessary dispelling)
> Kogasa probably would appreciate the craftsmanship of the javelin, she's a blacksmith after all
> Quietly go back up the stairs enough so we can whisper without any chance of waking her up, wave to the others to follow back up
> Whisper "Well we're stuck, there's no chance we can get that close to her without her noticing"
> Whisper to Koakuma "That spell that brought us here, will it activate immediately upon touching the javelin or is there a delay? Like do you reckon we can sneak up as close as we can and hope we touch it before she wakes up and realizes whats going on?"
> Whisper "Kogasa you don't happen to have any magic to help sneak around?"
> Whisper "Koakuma you said the spell will also activate after some time has passed? Do you think there will be any warning when it's about to activate which will let us time it so we disappear the moment we grab the javelin?"
> Whisper "Could we perhaps activate a spell card in a way that Elis is left outside of its unpassable barrier field?"
> Whisper "Kogasa you don't happen to have any magic to help sneak around?"
> Whisper "Koakuma you said the spell will also activate after some time has passed? Do you think there will be any warning when it's about to activate which will let us time it so we disappear the moment we grab the javelin? You're still in contact with lady Patchouli right? Could you ask her how long the activation delay is?"
> Whisper "Could we perhaps activate a spell card in a way that Elis is left outside of its unpassable barrier field? The spell card system should prevent a third person from interfering with a spell card duel"
> Direct Kogasa's Question to Louise as well.
> Add to Kogasa :" And would it possible to summon enough rain in that room so that,with a well-chosen place to retreat to,Elis can be warded off until we are recalled back with Gungir in tow ?"
> Add to Koakuma : " And could Lady Patchouli be contacted to explain the situation we are in order to have her set up a faster "return" after we have given her a signal we are ready ?
> With Spell Card Barriers,Kogasa's Rain,Koakuma's Communication,Louise's Support Magic all working in well-planned synergy we should be able to make progress.
// You don't have to wait for something like that, only wait if your action completely cancels someone else's action out//My question would've been completely pointless if the parse happened before you responded to it. Hence the wait. :P
> Make a mental note to experiment with Spell Cards in Makai on our next visit, our interest has been piqued and others like Eirin, Reimu and Shinki would surely be interested in the results
> Whisper "Some other time could you tell us more about who you were before Vina was destroyed?"
> Whisper "Okay we're ready, right when you cast the sealing charm we'll grab the javelin and make a run for it. Once we get outside we all hold hands so the spell affects all three of us"
> Right after Louise casts a sealing charm on the box or gives us a signal grab the javelin with our Youkai Strength, touch or bump Koakuma with it to trigger the spell warmup and head for the stairs
// You don't have to wait for something like that, only wait if your action completely cancels someone else's action out
> Sure, hold hands whilerunningflying
//That quality Elis drawing reminds me of a certain Kirby meme.
>List of skills and their costs.
>List functionality of our familiar.
> Can we stack enhancements/buffs
> Can the familiars we create interact with or use any of the weaponry on the walls?
> In a pinch can the familiars themselves be used as projectiles?
> Can our mirror reflect Elis's magic attacks back at her?
> Quickly inspect room, structural integrity and especially the equipment on walls
> Cast an enhancement spell on us to further assist our magic regeneration rate
> Create a circle of familiars around Elis which will shoot constantly at her (if we can, aim for her injured arm) and spawn some surprise aimed bullets when she destroys them
> Can we stack the same buff by casting it multiple times? // Like if casting Defense Up on two consecutive turns yields a greater defense than just 1 turn
> Can we cancel a buff at will?
> Could we still try and buff our mana regeneration if we wanted to even if it would foolish and hurt us?
> Can we buff our Luck? // How does luck work, does a higher luck always benefit us or the action we are performing? For example if we have max luck and cast a spell on a target will it always succeed but if we were to cast the same spell to damage ourselves would it always fail?
> Can we create barriers like Rumia if so what types?
> Shoot a stream of flame at the nearest one handed sword to get it glowing red hot, then animate it to perform quick slashing attacks (primarily aimed at her injured arm) and circle around her annoyingly quickly
> While she's focused at dodging the sword instruct our mirror familiar to chip away at her from afar with magical bullets
> Throw the occasional laser or water stream at her (whichever we think will be more annoying / do more damage)
> Cast a Haste spell so it affects our familiars (and not us)
> If we have enough time cast a spell to enhance our reflexes
> If we were to cast a mana regeneration spell (in it current unfinished state) on say Mayina would it kill him?:sword:
> Are we able to create barriers like Rumia if so what types?
> Animate the nearest sword to perform quick slashing attacks (primarily aimed at her injured arm) and circle around her annoyingly quickly
> If we have enough time cast a spell to enhance our reflexes (dodging ability)
> As for the mirror have it move erratically while shooting occasionally and being a general annoyance
> Be prepared to dodge Elis' first attack
> If we were to cast a mana regeneration spell (in it current unfinished state) on say Mayina would it kill him?
> Are we able to create barriers like Rumia if so what types?
> Animate the nearest sword to perform quick slashing attacks (primarily aimed at her injured arm) and circle around her annoyingly quickly
> If we have enough time cast a spell to enhance our reflexes (dodging ability)
> As for the mirror have it move erratically while shooting occasionally and being a general annoyance
> Be prepared to dodge Elis' first attack
:sword:
// From time to time Louise/us should check to avoid the Dangers 3 Bars (" Makaian Miasma to Mana and Magic Talents against BOTH Elis' Seriousness AND BOREDOM) likely ending a Elis-Side Fun Interesting,Intriguing,Challenge But not Over-Challenging without Low-Boiling or Hard-Boiling ...
// Particularly no True and Inopportune Blockade or Too Outright reminding ,or any other instances of Gungir,Stairs'Entrance,R.K.K Trio,Artifact Hunt ,Alice,Yumeko,Shinki's and her Children,etc. //
> After Animated Sword and Familiar proceed to " Haste(ga)-Speed&Reflexes" meant as using actually as Reflexive Speed,Speedy Reflexive even relaying parts to our Mirror Familiar.
> For now Magic Mirror Familiar ought to cover the animated sword and last one to the first one in synergy while we ought to cover ourselves by them and switch accordingly,including our positioning with a " Fairly Serious and Threatining Bout Challenge&Defiance without Painstakingly or Laxly so ".
> Act and positon as" Fairly Serious and Threatining Bout Challenge&Defiance without Painstakingly or Laxly so "
> Sagely Alternate fairly fast and outright quick ,possibly dangerously dazzling and dancing Attacks&Provokes&Feints to Elis ' Arm AND especilly whole Right Side from medium-?lose range to close-medium to near-closebut not too close and personl without a too clear or haphazard pattern nor a gappy or voidy trajectory to us or worse Towards Rumia,Koakuma,Kogasa.
> In Short Detail Balance Practical+Concrete Slashing Strikes/Projectiles/Aimed Patterns+Movements around Elis' Arm in their Essences.
// +√..!!!...!!!...!!!..√+ //
> Instruct our mirror to block the magical attack with it's heavily enchanted magical defense. Dodge sideways whatever gets through our mirror
> Charge up and fire powerful laser aimed at her injured arm
> Enhance our mirror's defense further with an ironskin buff when we get a chance
> Don't cast haste on our mirror as it conflicts with defense up// Thanks for the reminder, I had read it but had forgotten it before posting
> Don't cast haste on our mirror as it conflicts with defense up> Right ,just Ironskin ! Can't be forgetting the inability to layer enchantments in combat since they need to be carefully woven to be layered.
> Instruct our mirror to block the magical attack with it's heavily enchanted magical defense. Dodge sideways whatever gets through our mirror
> Charge up and fire powerful laser aimed at her injured arm
> Enhance our mirror's defense further with an ironskin buff when we get a chance
> Keep also the A. Sword out of the "Twisting Horns Blasts",Regain Hold if Lost.
> Does Haste count for Agility/Dexterity as well or is that Another Good Enchantment ?
> Our offensive , disprutive weakening and similar spell-types are secondary, and yet they could be Competent Complements :
what are they?
> Confront among them if there are ones visually & magically more subtle and/or dangerously effective than the "flame-wreath or metal heat" or both.
> In fact are we able to cast an effective flame-wreath or an effective metal-heat, and is firing fireballs at them surest method or...?
>Did blowing a hole in the wall generate a ton of debris or did it just melt through?
>if the former, would we be able to animate all the debris from the wall into a cloud of brick familiars?
> Animate the suit of armor and the sword so that it can fight like a knight (the sword is already behind Elis near the armor)
> Fire lasers to keep Elis' attention focused on us, be as loud as possible with our magic to mask the clanging sound of the armor
> Instruct our mirror familiar to block magical attacks aimed at us and occasionally fire some missiles back
> Instruct the 'knight' behind Elis to attempt to decapitate her with a horizontal swing of the sword at her neck level
> If that fails attack with slashing and cutting motions alongside danmaku from its free arm
> Take a look inside the new room whenever we get a chance
>Did blowing a hole in the wall generate a ton of debris or did it just melt through?
>if the former, would we be able to animate all the debris from the wall into a cloud of brick familiars?
>Does the entire armor count as one familiar, or does each piece of the suit count as a separate familiar?
>If the former, would it be possible to transform the "single familiar" armor into a "gestalt familiar" of individual armor pieces?
>What is the maximum number of familiars we can animate?
//I wonder if it's possible to turn the armor into a swarm of metal pieces, either to get rid of the blood or to give Elis a surprise later.
>Does the entire armor count as one familiar, or does each piece of the suit count as a separate familiar?
>If the former, would it be possible to transform the "single familiar" armor into a "gestalt familiar" of individual armor pieces?
>What is the maximum number of familiars we can animate?
> Can the animated debris be eventually re-organized in shapes to increase their impact,even several times?
> What about transmutating what we already have been animating,wholly or partly?
Firstly; I feel like this should be brought up.:)
With the passing of Helvetica (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,29579.0.html); the main admin of the site, this somewhat throws the future of the forum in the air. [Paying for it; ect]. It's being discussed, but I think it is worth bringing up. I have an idea for a backup plan, but hopefully it doesn't come to that.
Secondly; Branneg I seriously cannot make heads or tails of your 2nd post. I'm going to have to skip it because simply; I can't actually parse it.
Thirdly; still got the whole old man's knee issue keeping me quite busy.
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Just going to answer questions to give Branneg a chance to amend his 2nd post since I don't want to skip it but it's kinda hard to read it. I'll probobly actually do the update just before I go to sleep or tomorrow morning.
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> At the moment yes, because it is all connected.
> Yes, you could magically unbuckle the fastenings and joins to make it break apart.
> There is no hard limit, but more and larger familiars require more magic to maintain. It would simply be harder to co-ordinate multiple chunks of Armour than one body.
> You can transmute and transform things, but this is quite difficult. Also it usually takes the form of Destruction magic; to break something down so you can reshape it.
> Transmutations are limited to similar material; for example; Iron can be transmuted into Copper; but not into chalk. Notably; things such as Steel that are not naturally occurring cannot be transmuted at all. Things that have magic woven into them are exceptionally hard to transmute.
// Don't block progress to answer this, just include it in the actions
> Does transmuting a material conserve its mass and change its volume according to the density of the new material? For example a bar of Iron transmuted into a bar of Copper that maintains its mass should be smaller in volume due to the higher density of copper
:)
// Thank you dearly and charitably,Raikaria,for taking the welfare of MotK at Heart //
// Humble sorry If these propositions are underwhelming or unclear; the posts after mine,and this latest new one, have been pretty much taken in consideration the bulk of my earlier ..." too compressed attempt" ...but I am still going looking back into it to avoid "stumbling" // :)
> Enthousiastically respond "My my, a game? But of course!"
> Counter Elis' magic by increasing our animation resistance
> Using the animated sword as a 'lever' excert force on the knight's arm by rotating the sword counter-clockwise with the force applied on the tip for added neutonian leverage (Slowly at first to entice Elis to resist it)
> Discreetly cast an Ice-wreath or cooling enhancement on the knight, blood will solidify and and freeze damaging it
> Additionally if we (or our mirror) can create a light breeze in the room do so with air magic (as blood dries and clots when exposed to air)
> Have our mirror ready for any surprise magic attacks from Elis, though keep it away from the suit of armor in case she gains more control over it
Firstly; I feel like this should be brought up.//////
With the passing of Helvetica (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,29579.0.html); the main admin of the site, this somewhat throws the future of the forum in the air. [Paying for it; ect]. It's being discussed, but I think it is worth bringing up. I have an idea for a backup plan, but hopefully it doesn't come to that.
> Use our mirror as a "substitute" and move it in front of us to block the magical blades that way we don't both get hit by one
> "Isn't there virtue in being clever with your magic? Sometimes it's more effective than raw power, but I'll let off the temperature gimmick if you protest"
> Stop the cold magic and instead focus on redirecting animation magic on areas that there is no blood, forcing her to spread it out more if she wants to regain control, additionally attempt to twist the knight's arm by rotating our animated sword from the edge to gain leverage
> "But I'll respond to your blades with some of my own"
> Throw many magical knives at her and instruct our mirror to fill in holes in our pattern with kunai