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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #840 on: October 10, 2013, 03:03:18 PM »
I hope the Metagame treats the different mega forms as different Pokemon. Like poor Charizard, maybe Charite Y or whatever will be banned to UU while X  banned to OU. And norm Zard will be NU.
That is, if they don't nerf SR <_<
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #841 on: October 10, 2013, 03:05:08 PM »
If you mega evo a pokemon and then switch them out, when you switch them back in are they still mega or do they revert back to normal?

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #842 on: October 10, 2013, 03:11:16 PM »
If you mega evo a pokemon and then switch them out, when you switch them back in are they still mega or do they revert back to normal?

Apparently so.

I hope the Metagame treats the different mega forms as different Pokemon. Like poor Charizard, maybe Charite Y or whatever will be banned to UU while X  banned to OU. And norm Zard will be NU.
That is, if they don't nerf SR <_<

Probobly not. It's a choice of item on a pokemon, and since tiers are based on usage if, say, Charizard gets the usage Threshold in OU but it's always because MegaZardX, Charizard will still be OU.

It's like without Speed Boost Blaziken wouldn't be Uber.
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« Last Edit: October 10, 2013, 03:14:34 PM by Raikaria »


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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #843 on: October 10, 2013, 03:21:46 PM »
No, I think they will ban particular mega items in the same way they ban Soul Dew.

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #844 on: October 10, 2013, 03:28:41 PM »
I think since we're getting Torchic over a wifi event, I'm going to go Froakie / Bulbasaur / Torchic.

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #845 on: October 10, 2013, 03:34:15 PM »
Froakie / Charmander gogo

ninja frog and new charizard are 2cool

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #846 on: October 10, 2013, 03:35:27 PM »
Looks like I'm going to have to pick up my copy at midnight tomorrow rather than having it dropped off to me because the guy who owes me a copy is a manchild and has no means of transportation. Oh well, earlier for me.

My in-game team is usually just "stuff I happen to catch that I think is cool". It often doesn't even involve my starter at this point. For fun I might try a Nuzlocke-esque thing with Y where I use the first six things I've never seen before (I'm pretty sure there are still a few things I haven't had spoiled). Or maybe I'll do mono-Poison or something, I don't know. I really, REALLY like
Spoiler:
keyring guy and ghost pumpkin guy
so I may have to incorporate them in some way if they're in Y.
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #848 on: October 10, 2013, 11:20:00 PM »
Looks like I'm going to have to pick up my copy at midnight tomorrow rather than having it dropped off to me because the guy who owes me a copy is a manchild and has no means of transportation. Oh well, earlier for me.

As someone who has no means of transportation besides his own two feet [Not even a bike. My balance is godawful and I can't ride one.], I wholeheartedly agree with your first world problems.


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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #849 on: October 11, 2013, 12:42:01 AM »
Serebii posted some scans of CoroCoro, revealing a few new Mega Pokemon:
Mega Tyranitar and Mega Aggron
Mega Kangaskhan and Mega Gengar
 
...the look in Mega Gengar's eyes.  It's going to break down our doors and murder us in our sleep, I just know it is.  My question is, does it still have feet?  Mega Gengar gets Shadow Tag and Tyranitar stays the same (aside from becoming more pointy-looking).
 
Also holy crap, Aggron getting some love~<3  The Aron-line is a personal favorite of mine and the new design is pretty neat looking.  Going to Mega, Aggron loses its Rock typing (pure Steel now) and gets the move Filter (-25% from super effective).  As nice as that is for a defensive Pokemon, I'm going to miss having the Rock Head ability along with stab-Head Smash.
 
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #850 on: October 11, 2013, 01:24:46 AM »
Mega Tyranitar

This is just as stupid as mega garchomp

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #851 on: October 11, 2013, 02:15:31 AM »
Mega Gengar gets Shadow Tag...

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Insta-Uber? :V
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #852 on: October 11, 2013, 02:29:44 AM »
so instead of buffing Pokemon that needed it, they just made the strongest Pokemon even stronger :V

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #853 on: October 11, 2013, 02:37:45 AM »
so instead of buffing Pokemon that needed it, they just made the strongest Pokemon even stronger :V

It's not totally instead. Kangaskhan and Aggron needed some help and they got it. Tyranitar and Gengar's slots definitely should have gone to things that deserved them more, but at least they aren't all like that.

What do you think the odds are for a Mega Politoed? :derp: It's even more braindead looking and it has the ability Mega Drizzle, which is like Drizzle but it has no duration...
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #854 on: October 11, 2013, 03:38:50 AM »
mega dunsparce ftw

edit: actually you know what I want

mega clefable

Clefable's got an awesome movepool but lacking stats so a boost would be awesome

that and Clefable's always been one of my favorites :[
« Last Edit: October 11, 2013, 03:41:52 AM by Yumatsuri Okazaki »

Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #855 on: October 11, 2013, 03:44:36 AM »
This is just as stupid as mega garchomp
I wonder if the people in charge of deciding Smogon tier lists have had an aneurysm yet from having to figure out what they'll have to put on the ban list or not. On the other hand, if Tyranitar gets the boot I won't be disappointed. Hippowdon 4 lyfe

Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #856 on: October 11, 2013, 03:46:37 AM »
mega dunsparce ftw

edit: actually you know what I want

mega clefable

Clefable's got an awesome movepool but lacking stats so a boost would be awesome

that and Clefable's always been one of my favorites :[
at least it gets to be a fairy type now right?

Unless somehow the literal fairy Pokemon isn't a fairy type...

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #857 on: October 11, 2013, 03:58:26 AM »
Don't worry, I'm sure there's a fucking mega blissey.

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #858 on: October 11, 2013, 04:00:32 AM »
I think we're forgetting the most obvious choice here:
 
MEGA UNOWN

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #859 on: October 11, 2013, 05:28:07 AM »
Naw, the most obvious choice is MEGA MAGIKARP. It can use Mega Splash to do nothing better!
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #860 on: October 11, 2013, 05:49:25 AM »
Naw, the most obvious choice is MEGA MAGIKARP. It can use Mega Splash to do nothing better!

Like this?
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #861 on: October 11, 2013, 06:11:18 AM »
/spittake

Insta-Uber? :V

Considering stat estimates peg it at 150 SpA and 130 Spe?

Probably.

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #862 on: October 11, 2013, 07:07:23 AM »
All these mega evolutions seem really powerful and all. Stuff like Mega Absol seems to have some 150 attack to go along with its new 115 speed and SpA and Magic Bounce.
They actually seem to be on par with some of the legendaries in that regard, but...

They still can't hold items. Charizard X doesn't give as many cares because his boost in attack is almost akin to a Choice Band boost anyways, but at the end of a battle you can still only use one Mega Evolution.
With the variety of new candidates for Megas, you can't just ban every single one to the higher tiers. I think a good portion of scouting will consist of figuring out what your opponent's Mega is going to be and being prepared to handle it.

They're almost like team captains in a way, then, aren't they?

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #863 on: October 11, 2013, 08:34:16 AM »
Like I said, Soul Dew-like bans. I checked the stats thread in Smogon yesterday and was blown away.
Spoiler:
Pokemon like mega Tyranitar, Gengar and others are MEANT to be OP. Too OP. Fuck Shadow Tag Gengar with 130 Speed and like 170 SpA. Stuff like Absol and Gardevoir got over-the-top buffs too.
Megaitem bans will be plenty.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2013, 09:00:16 AM by BT »

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #864 on: October 11, 2013, 08:50:34 AM »

I think one of those should've been spoilered.
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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #865 on: October 11, 2013, 08:59:51 AM »
IIRC they were all revealed in the thread already but... okay I guess my mind failed me on the last one?

Stuff from that thread:

Spoiler:
#032M - Mega Gengar (Ghost/Poison)
Base 65/60/80/170/95/130
Shadow Tag

Case in point. Craziest thing ever.

#130Co - Mega Pinsir (Bug/Flying)
Base ?/?/?/?/?/?
Aerilate

What a wonderful troll. Let's see if he gets 200 base Attack to compensate.

#050Ce - Mega Gyarados (Water/Dark)
Base ?/?/?/?/?/?
Mold Breaker

I thought this was really cool considering Flying and Dark have conflicfting weaknesses/resistances. (Fighting, Bug etc.)

#068Co - Mega Aerodactyl (Rock/Flying)
Base 80/135/85/70/95/150 (BST: 615)
Tough Claws

OP.

#151Mo - Mega Mewtwo X (Psychic/Fighting)
Base 106/194/90/150/90/130
Steadfast
#151Mo - Mega Mewtwo Y (Psychic)
Base 106/150/70/194/120/140
Insomnia

lol

#066Ce - Mega Gardevoir (Psychic/Fairy)
Base 68/75/65/175/135/100 (May be inaccurate. See post #93 and #87)
Pixilate

"May be inaccurate" but yeah, dunno how far this inaccuracy thing can go.

#? - Mega Medicham (Fighting/Psychic)
Base 60/100/85/80/85/100 (BST: 510)
Huge Power

Holy shit hahahahah.

#009Co - Mega Absol (Dark)
Base 65/150/60/115/60/115
Magic Bounce

The fun never stops.

#063Ce - Mega Lucario (Fighting/Steel)
Base 70/150/70/145/70/120
Adaptability

Yeah.

#089M - Mega Abomasnow (Grass/Ice)
Base 90/132/105/132/105/30
Snow Warning

...Won't be banned, I think. Weaknesses and all. It has good tankish stats, I guess. We'll judge after new movepool additions.

edit:

Spoiler:
Mega Ampharos' base stats: 82-99 / 94-110 / 104-120 / 161-177 / 94-110 / 39-55

*hands fly in air*

Is this, like, an buff of over 250 BST? I need to check if this is worse than
Spoiler:
Gardevoir
. I bet
Spoiler:
Mawile
will have it crazy too which is just hilarious.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2013, 09:07:23 AM by BT »

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #866 on: October 11, 2013, 09:15:20 AM »
No, the confirmed most of what we see was BST + 100.

Spoiler:
I just saw images of MegaPinsir and MegaBanette from Serebii. Holy hell
« Last Edit: October 11, 2013, 09:20:42 AM by Kawamura`Reo »

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #867 on: October 11, 2013, 09:28:59 AM »
Prankster on anything is broken.

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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #868 on: October 11, 2013, 10:16:04 AM »
Yeah, but it makes sense on Banette.

Also: Mega Pinsir.

YES

YES

YES.

It's still semi-troll by being Bug/Flying and not Bug/Fighting so all them fighting moves get no STAB, but at least he gets an ability which turns Normal into Flying, so he does have STAB Return... and Guillotine is suddenly OHKO'ing Ghosts :V

That and it looks so awesome I cannot fault it for being Flying/Bug.


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Re: Pocket Monsters 6th Gen (Dimensions) - Less than a week till release
« Reply #869 on: October 11, 2013, 11:52:05 AM »
Meganette is pretty much the coolest thing ever.

This is from bulbagarden: "9. The power-up of Mega-Evolved Pokemon is meant to elevate them to the class of legendary Pok?mon, hence the restriction of only one Pok?mon being allowed to hold a Mega Stone during battles." It's pretty much what it looks like. Hence why ALL of the megamons get OP stats - even those who had below 500 BST beforehand, which means more than 100 BST buffs.

It seems gamefreak focused on the new generation and a select few old mons when making this game:
"6. When distributing new moves and abilities, priority was given to new Pok?mon."
"8. The standard selection process for Pok?mon to be Mega-Evolvable is based on three points: visual looks, popularity and game balance."

And, to be honest, I'm thankful for it. It means the metagame won't be stupidly diverse. I'm all for a smaller selection of threats to take into account.

Mat Block | Fighting | Other | - | - | 10 | Using a pulled-up mat as a shield, the user protects itself and its allies from damaging moves. This does not stop status moves.
This is a cool move for Doubles. It's a partywide Protect that doesn't work for support moves.

Frost Breath | Ice | Special | 60 | 90 | 10 | The user blows its cold breath on the target. This attack always results in a critical hit.
Now more powerful than Blizzard as it virtually has the samehigher base power and higher accuracy and PP. It also ignores SpD buffs because it crits.

EDIT

http://www.serebii.net/xy/temp/00540.png
Spoiler:
It's ToxicroakMegacross! Yeah, Pinsir got trolled really damn hard.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2013, 12:07:22 PM by BT »