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~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 11, 2013, 05:32:32 AM

Title: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 11, 2013, 05:32:32 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/title_zps9ddc1c75.png)
Welcome to Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!

King of Dragon Pass is a curious mishmash of simulation and choose-your-own-adventure originally released in 1999 by A Sharp. It takes place in Glorantha, the setting for the tabletop RPGs RuneQuest and HeroQuest. It got a release on iOS (http://itunes.apple.com/en/app/king-of-dragon-pass/id335545504) in September 2011 (updated in September 2012 to include a higher-res version optimized for iPad) with a number of new events and some streamlining of other elements, and the original version saw a release on GOG (http://www.gog.com/gamecard/king_of_dragon_pass) in August 2012 - I'll be playing off the GOG release, which to the best of my knowledge is identical to the original 1999 version sans needing the CD to run.

It's also full of lovely (and frequently badass) artwork, and a nicely atmospheric soundtrack (https://soundcloud.com/stanlepard/sets/king-of-dragon-pass-soundtrack).

This LP will be quite heavy on audience participation - while voting on every single action I take would bog things down considerably, general goals for each year (except maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe the very first year, both to get some pretty stock setup that most people do the same way close to every time squared away and to make sure I show off most if not all of the options available) and all special events (which are quite frequent!) will be up to you guys!

I'm thinking the general, unless-otherwise-noted rule on voting periods are going to be voting cuts off at 7:00 PM my time (US Eastern, currently GMT -4) of the day after I post an update. (Though we're talking days that end when I go to sleep, so e.g. 1 AM technically-Sunday-morning counts as Saturday.) This should always give at least 12 and usually closer to 24 hours for voting, and hopefully give people in a wide variety of timezones a chance to provide input.

Hopefully I can keep to a daily or nearly-so schedule for updates, otherwise the LP might get quite extended, but if I don't expect to get an update in I'll try to let you all know so you can keep on voting!

I don't care how you phrase your votes, as long as I can tell what option you're voting for, but please bold your votes when you vote for things. The game does number each option in events and I do plan to include those, so you'll usually have a clarity fallback if you're being a bit goofy with your vote otherwise. :3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 11, 2013, 05:33:07 AM
Nobles
Our ring (stats captured in Sea of 1330):
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Other potentially notable nobles:
Rostandos died you guys ;_;

Other Clans
Neighbors:
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/elkenval_zps021d4fc3.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/fire_quartz_zps9676f0c8.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/greenwing_zps8b0b872d.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/kardarvi_zps899b5c11.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/narri_zpsf9896a15.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/rakstanti_zpsf5511401.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/six_brothers_zpsf89192aa.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/zethnoring_zps69c10145.png:original)

Everyone Else:
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/antorling_zps34c5a8db.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/badger_zpseb898837.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/blue_jay_zpscbd2ce74.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/blue_spruce_zps44984e39.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/boskovi_zps39d35da5.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/enhyli_zps1530bdf3.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/grey_fox_zpsf928ba21.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/jenstali_zps26a7585a.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/hiord_zpsd9e2d979.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/mule_deer_zpsf4c9b22b.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/konthasos_zps9b6ff965.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/rangdani_zps3e0f9574.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/taraling_zps5c77d435.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/tanahart_zps200d0c2b.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/clans/undaroli_zpse717c6a5.png:original)

Background
Myths: (* denotes myths with corresponding heroquests)
How Things Began (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/how_things_began_zps9afe070b.png), The Sword Story (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_sword_story_zps68766536.png), The Contests (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_contests_zpsfd816ebb.png), The Storm Age (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_storm_age_zps97dd1e4a.png), *The Making of the Storm Tribe (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_making_of_the_storm_tribe_zps4f024748.png), *Humakt the Champion, *Issaries the Conciliator, *Lhankor Mhy Finds the Truth, *Orlanth and Aroka, Orlanth the Justice Bringer (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/orlanth_the_justice_bringer_zps65f3f7f0.png), *Chalana Arroy Heals the Scars, The Great Darkness (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_great_darkness_zps816a55c5.png), *Elmal Guards the Stead (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/elmal_guards_the_stead_zpsa16cdb01.png), *Uralda's Blessing, *Ernalda Feeds the Tribe (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/ernalda_feeds_the_tribe_zps994fcec6.png), The Lightbringers Quest: The Journey West (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/lightbringers_the_journey_west_zpsfcee4e93.png), The Sea Journey (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/lightbringers_the_sea_journey_zps5ec881ef.png), Luathela (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/lightbringers_luathela_zps6e94fe38.png), The Underworld (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/lightbringers_the_underworld_zps57382c37.png), Orlanth and Yelm (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/lightbringers_orlanth_and_yelm_zps70652ca2.png), The Ritual of the Net (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/lightbringers_the_ritual_of_the_net_zps814c47e4.png), The Return (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/lightbringers_the_return_zpse68bf344.png)

History:
History (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/history_zpsd607d7e3.png), The Dragonkill War (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_dragonkill_war_zps453d5902.png), The Pharaoh (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_pharaoh_zpsa5f450d6.png), Early Settlements (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/early_settlements_zps1cfecd73.png)

Culture:
Calendar (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/calendar_zps84fdd7b1.png), Chaos (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/chaos_zpsac7a3f4a.png), Deities (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/deities_zpse9531e29.png), Foreigners (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/foreigners_zps82534466.png), Glossary (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/glossary_zpsd0c12bf5.png), Heortland (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/heortland_zps2f6d0408.png), Law (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/law_zpsb657673b.png), Map (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/map_zpsf22ac52b.png), Runes (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/runes_zpsb83c48c2.png)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 11, 2013, 05:34:36 AM
Before we start managing our clan, we have to make them! We do this by way of a questionnaire that's not very long but I'm still going to split it over multiple updates with their own voting periods because reasons.

While I am eager to get started, this stuff's the actual lifeblood of our clan. We'll be expected to follow in the ways of our ancestors, and well-rewarded when we do! Because of that and because I'm posting this initial update fairly late at night, I will provide an extra day for at least this very first couple questions - any votes after April 12 at 7:00 PM (GMT -4) will not be counted. Even though I won't be home for another couple hours after that. This is a Friday-only problem. =P

Depending on participation, future setup questions may keep this extended voting period or may return to the default voting schedule of 7:00 PM the day following an update.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20001/kodp001-01_zps4dd632e8.png:original)
There once was a time when gods and people walked the earth together. Your clan traces its ancestry back to those times. Your clan history begins when you joined the forces of the storm god Orlanth. Back then, Orlanth was simply one of many upstart, rebellious gods bent upon conquest of the world. Orlanth's unique contributions at that time were personal honor and a close kinship to the other deities who seemed to be on the winning side.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20001/kodp001-02_zps4f2cb2f7.png:original)
After many tribulations, adventures and discoveries Orlanth proved himself worthy of marrying Ernalda, the Earth Mother. The two of them created the Marriage Ring and established great harmony in the world through this sacred bonding. Our clan took part in the wedding ceremony. Most clans either whooped with Orlanth or learned a secret from Ernalda. A few clans stood with Elmal, God of Horses and the Sun, as an honour guard.

How did our clan prepare for the great marriage?

1. Our men and women donned gleaming armour and stood guard with Elmal to protect the celebrants from Orlanth's many enemies.
2. Our men whooped with Orlanth and drank the Eight Known Drinks, so that their heads would hurt during the ceremony.
3. Our women withdrew with Ernalda and learned a List of Names, which they promised not to repeat to the men.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20001/kodp001-03_zps666c4090.png:original)
Orlanth's struggle to remake the world was just beginning, and many other gods joined him in it. Orlanth undertook many wars of conquest. Other more peaceful deeds were just as important.

Our earliest Famous Event was:

1. The Battle of Extinguish Field, when Orlanth's forces defeated those of his worst enemy, Yelm the Bright Emperor.
2. The Hundred-Day Hunt, when Orlanth's brother Odayla tracked the Sky Bear.
3. Jested's Settlement, when Issaries the Talking God outwitted foreign deities in a difficult negotiation.
4. The Procession of Animals, when Uralda, the Cow Mother led the sacred herds into Orlanth's stead.
5. When Barntar, son of Orlanth and Ernalda, harnessed oxen to plow.
6. When Ernalda and her daughters went to the Hidden Place, and then came back with many secrets.
7. When Lhankor Mhy , the Knowing God learned how to use the marking bone, which could mark signs of power upon anything.
8. When Pella, the pottery goddess, made the first pot to store grain in.
9. When Roitana, lady of dance, performed the Clan-making Dance.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Mr_Bob on April 11, 2013, 08:00:50 AM
Never heard of this game, but seems like it'd be pretty cool.  Also enjoying the linked soundtrack.

Voting for 1. Our men and women donned gleaming armour and stood guard with Elmal to protect the celebrants from Orlanth's many enemies.

Not sure about the second, but # 4, 8, or 9 sound amusing.  Thinking nomads, merchants, or fertility.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: trancehime on April 11, 2013, 10:27:40 AM
How did our clan prepare for the great marriage?

3. Our women withdrew with Ernalda and learned a List of Names, which they promised not to repeat to the men.

Our earliest Famous Event was:

The Procession of Animals, when Uralda, the Cow Mother led the sacred herds into Orlanth's stead.

Let's mix things up a little  :3

Never heard of this game, but seems like it'd be pretty cool.  Also enjoying the linked soundtrack.

It is pretty badass. The entire setting is basically powered by myths. So you can imagine all the potential badass and hilarity that can come of it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: redlakitu on April 11, 2013, 01:24:47 PM
Oooh, this game! I always wanted to play it, but never quite got around to actually trying. I remember a review in the most popular gaming magazine in my country. The reviewer (very briefly) bashed pretty much every single aspect of the game and gave it the lowest possible mark, but personally I found the idea and drawing style quite appealing, so I concluded that they probably never actually bothered to play the game and reviewed it based on screenshots and press release material instead.

Voting #1 (Our men and women donned gleaming armour and stood guard with Elmal to protect the celebrants from Orlanth's many enemies) for the marriage preparation and #1 again (The Battle of Extinguish Field, when Orlanth's forces defeated those of his worst enemy, Yelm the Bright Emperor) for the Famous Event.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on April 11, 2013, 01:30:51 PM
Let's go with #1 and #7.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Garlyle on April 11, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
1 and 1.  TO BATTLE, AND VICTORY.

Also good that you're offering us several choices at once.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 11, 2013, 04:34:25 PM
I'll go with The Eight Known Drinks(2) and The Battle of Extinguish Field(1).
We Nordic now.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 11, 2013, 05:33:53 PM
We Nordic now.

I mean, we pretty Nordic no matter what y'all pick. :V (Or maybe more like Germanic. Or something.)

Also good that you're offering us several choices at once.

Yeah, the past LPs on SA did a single question per update but they also had enough people around to get a decent number of votes in a fairly short time. There's only one damn thing keeping me from putting up the entire questionnaire at once, and it's sadly placed that I can't reeeeeeeally break it in just half either, but since none of the questions are predicated on prior ones I can at least get a few at a go.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Amraphenson on April 11, 2013, 05:38:31 PM
1 and 7!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 11, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
Man some of those "Famous Events" sound ridiculously trivial. Hmm, I guess my votes will be 1 and 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 12, 2013, 02:35:57 AM
I vote for getting drunk and having food.

2, and 8.

Edit: No, I never wrote 1. Choosing 1 seems very dangerous and reckless of me. I could not fathom why I ever would write 1. It's a terrible number. Only bad things come from it. And everything else. I guess the number is ok. Maybe. I'unno. Don't judge me! ;_;

PS: Whoops.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 12, 2013, 02:39:28 AM
I vote for getting drunk and having food.

1, and 8.

Stein 1 is not the get drunk option, it's fine if it's what you want but your text implies you want drunk. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on April 12, 2013, 05:47:55 AM
1. Our men and women donned gleaming armour and stood guard with Elmal to protect the celebrants from Orlanth's many enemies.
2. The Hundred-Day Hunt, when Orlanth's brother Odayla tracked the Sky Bear.


SKY BEAR. I was really tempted to vote for drunk option too but I liked the first one just a bit better.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 12, 2013, 08:32:31 AM
#3 and #5.

Fuck your wars. Peace Clans are where it's at!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 12, 2013, 06:18:22 PM
2 and 9

Drinking and dancing, what the hell else do you need?  (Well, maybe some sleep when you're too drunk to dance, but there isn't an option that involves sleeping so drinking and dancing it is.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 12, 2013, 08:42:35 PM
3 and 6, Matriarchy goooooo!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 13, 2013, 01:18:08 AM
Well it looks like our clan's main god is Elmal and our earliest Famous event was Orlanth at the Battle of Extinguish Field! (What those choices mean along with the options we didn't choose once I get a writeup done. >_>)

From here on out I'm just gonna do the next day by 7:00 PM GMT -4 limit for voting. Next questions:

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Orlanth succeeded in remaking the world, and thus began the golden era called the Storm Age. Orlanth's son, Vingkot was a famous warlord during this time. Most of the people in the area were among his followers. Many people who would not have survived joined his tribes. He was a great organizer and helped the many scattered people form into new clans and tribes. Your clan was one of those aided by King Vingkot. After you proved yourself robust and capable of survival, Vingkot placed a remnant people under your protection. They were the Nalda Bin, or "Stick Farmers." You had a choice whether to make them into thralls (slaves) or adopt them as members of your clan.

How did you add these strangers?

1. Adopted Family
2. Thralls


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The foes of the Vingkotlings were many, and our people fought hard against them.

Which one in particular did we fight?

1. Boztakang, the Troll Lord
2. Ukka Gra, King of the Basmoli Beastmen
3. Chinkis Mor, the Elf Warlord
4. Tada the Green, champion of the flat land called Prax
5. Faralinthor, Salty Lord of the Sea
6. Ves Venna, Son of Valind, Warlord of the Ice Tribe


(One of these is so dumb they took it out of the iOS version altogether. Another is significantly more likely to help us than harm us if we don't choose it as our ancestral enemy. Which ones are these two? NOT TELLING. :V)

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The Storm Age ended in disaster when the gods and creatures of Chaos came and destroyed nearly everything. Orlanth and his allies fought hard against them, but Chaos almost always won. Catastrophes shook the world, such as the Sun Fall, the Rain of Blood, and the terrible Laughing Tsunami. In this era many gods died, and many new ones rose to prominence. The Darkness got so bad that even Orlanth and his companions had to abandon humans to their own destiny. Only a few deities, either small or weak ones, remained at all. The world stagnated and died. Our clan was diminished to a ragged handful of hardy survivors.

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Heort the King was the leader who emerged amid the turmoil of the Darkness. The combined efforts of Heort and his companions helped set the world in order again. He created the laws that we follow to this day. One of the great distinctions which Heort discerned among his clans was that some of them tended towards either peace or war, while others maintained a balance between these two principles.

Which kind was your clan?

1. War
2. Balanced
3. Peace
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Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 13, 2013, 01:28:45 AM
Let's go with Adopted Family(1), Ukka Gra(2) and Balanced(2).
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Post by: Amraphenson on April 13, 2013, 01:32:28 AM
Adopt 'em! (1) Kill 'dem elves! (3) Let them know Peace AND War! (2)
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Post by: Iced Fairy on April 13, 2013, 01:48:27 AM
1 - Adopted Family
4 - Human on Human violence!
2 - In all things Balance.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 13, 2013, 02:47:15 AM
So! To provide some more substantial content during the early bits where we're just making the clan, I'll follow up each voting period with just what the hell you guys got me into.

Question 1: Main God
While our peoples in general are known as the Orlanthi, and the vast majority do worship Orlanth as the main god of the pantheon, many individuals and even some clans do hold other gods more dearly. We'll see once we start playing that each god's worshipers have certain things they're particularly good at, and thus, some stats higher than others.

But more importantly, as a clan, we'll be expected to have our chief be a worshiper of our main god, or else our magic will suffer. (Admittedly, while the penalty does hurt, the events for having someone who's not high Leadership as your chief are irritating enough that if I don't have a main god worshiper in my top 2 or 3 leaders, I'll typically just suck it up and put the best leader as chief while I try to train a main god worshiper up a bit.) We'll also be expected not to have any shrines to other gods larger than that to our main god. (I'm not sure what the penalty for not doing so is but I don't really have any desire to find out!) It's not all bad, though, as we do get to start with a shrine already active granting us a constant blessing.

Orlanth, god of storms, is the king and main god of the pantheon, and us being Elmali does nothing to change that. His followers tend to have particularly good Leadership, so it's not unlikely that we might run with one as chief despite penalties (and yet whenever I'm an Orlanth-main clan all my best leaders are Ernaldans). All Orlanth worshipers are men, but his daughter Vinga, the goddess of women who take up men's role of warrior, has female devotees and is treated as equivalent to Orlanth for the purpose of main god-ness. Our initial shrine would grant the Rain blessing, which helps raise our crops and is probably the best of his blessings by far, though none of them are bad.

Elmal is a defensively-oriented war god, and the Orlanthi god of the sun. As befitting a war god, his followers tend to be particularly strong at Combat. His devotees are all male, and I don't think I tend to see a lot normally so this playthrough may end up accounting for more Elmali than I've seen otherwise combined. :V There's usually one other Elmali clan floating around the pass, so we're only mostly the weirdos in town. His initial shrine grants Steadfast, which improves our combat chances when defending, and IMO out of the 3 options here his overall blessing quality is the best.

Ernalda is the queen of the gods and the primary earth goddess. Her devotees get a bonus to Plants skill, and are all female. (There is a god in the setting who is to Ernalda similar to what Vinga is for Orlanth, but there's no Nandan worshipers in KoDP.) We'd also have no clans around that are weirdos in the same way we are. :( Though I don't think it actually matters too too much. Her initial shrine provides Bless Crops, which good lord it is the best crop blessing I am getting this early anyway, but her other blessings are two mediocre ones and one actively detrimental one.

Question 2: Earliest Famous Event
The majority of these choices give all nobles in your clan a boost to a particular stat, and provide knowledge of (but not a shrine maintaining) a particular blessing.

The Battle of Extinguish Field, naturally, provides a bonus to Combat. This is probably one of the top couple choices for the stat boost, since the Combat skill is used frequently and you don't always get to pick who's trying to use it. The blessing it provides is Thunderstone (makes skirmishing more effective), which is pretty soundly mediocre - you'll see why when I'm actually explaining combat. Overall I'd say y'all did OK. :3

The Hundred-Day Hunt boosts Combat, Animals, and Plants, but none of them by as much as any of the other events. Its blessing is Tracking ("helps find things" - yes a lot of blessing descriptions are vague and unquantified, though this is still more explanatory than a lot of 'em), which is possibly Odayla's best blessing but still thoroughly expendable. Not particularly worth it, but still not the worst option here.

Jested's Settlement boosts Bargaining. A good trader will help you profit (and thus prosper!), and since I'm generally more inclined to send out my trading missions back-to-back than many seem to be, I do tend to like having multiple strong bargainers more than a lot of people. Plus it helps out in explorations. Its blessing is Silvertongue, which helps traders and negotiators.

The Procession of Animals boost Animals skill. While all the skills are valuable, some are slightly more expendable than others, and this is one of them - but anything that helps our herds is a good thing, since cows are sorta the basic unit of wealth in Dragon Pass! Also though, you usually only need one noble really good at it at any one time. The blessing it teaches, though, Calf Blessing (increases the fertility of our cows), is an absolute must on par with Bless Crops.

Harnessing oxen to plow doesn't have a snappy name grants Plants skill - like Animals, anything that ups the harvest is a good thing, but also like Animals, you probably don't need more than one person who's good at it. Plowsong (allows oxen to plow more) is a really good blessing though.

The Hidden Place boosts Magic skill. This is fantastic, much like Combat it will kick in quite often, and also nobles with high Magic will give valuable advice in quite a lot of events. Bless Children, though, is horrible kids eat food and don't make food. If you need more kids for god knows what reason, recruit some adult farmers who bring their kids along.

Knowing how to use pencils (no really) boosts Custom. This is pretty much the skill of history and legal precedent - more useful than it sounds, a good lawspeaker is an advice dispenser of similar quality (but usually for different situations) to a high-Magic noble. It's another one that you don't really need more than one of, but quite possibly more vital of a one than Animals or Plants people. The Literacy blessing helps our dealings with other clans, it's also a good one to have around, especially approaching the midgame.

The first pot teaches the Preserve blessing (reduces food spoilage) and gives 5 more farmers and crafters thank god you guys didn't vote for this. You always want all the crafters you can get but not to the point of giving up a more useful choice here. The blessing's fine but not particularly urgent or exciting - since we're not an Ernalda clan I may never even expand a shrine for it.

The Clan-Making Dance boosts Leadership - another "you really want a good one but probably don't need more than one good one" skill, though it is more likely to come up in varied situations than a lot of the others. Instead of a blessing, it gives us knowledge of a heroquest - we'll need to godLARP plenty to win the game, and even before it's actually required we'll likely want to do plenty!
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Post by: Hello Purvis on April 13, 2013, 03:26:37 AM
Adopt them; destroy those Praxite bastards, and Peace Clan!
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Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 13, 2013, 04:44:38 AM
1, 4, 3

The Doodle Way is to be friends to all, so long as they don't get in the way of drinking and dancing.  But that Tada.  Oh, that Tada.  Championing those flat lands.  Those flat lands must be conquered so that there is sufficient open space for drunken dance parties.  Tada is an obstacle to this grand vision.  We will conquer all that is flat.
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Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 13, 2013, 05:38:59 AM
#1 Adopted - #5 Death to the Salty Lord of the Sea - #2 Balance Edit: Actually, let's change that last one. There.

Also... the "Laughing Tsunami"? O___o
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 13, 2013, 05:55:50 AM
Oh yeah p.s. Elmal is also the god of horses but I don't feel like editing my post again. But it's not really that important. Just an "oh hey also".
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Post by: Von Stein on April 13, 2013, 06:03:49 AM
Just to be contrary I'll say get Thralls as our meatshields! We have a defensive war god, let's get some defense going!

But yeah, we clearly *must* have the flat lands. I mean look at those flat lands. They are so... flat. o/` I like flat lands and I cannot lie, you other farmers can't deny, when a land shows up, with no tree poppin' up you get plow'ng! o/`

Oooohm.

2, 4, 2
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 13, 2013, 06:07:00 AM
Just to be contrary I'll say get Thralls as our meatshields! We have a defensive war god, let's get some defense going!

Thralls don't get to fight, in fact if you give a thrall a weapon he becomes a free man :V

But they do make 90% of the food a regular farmer does and eat only 50% of what farmers do. :3
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Post by: Von Stein on April 13, 2013, 06:15:16 AM
Thralls don't get to fight, in fact if you give a thrall a weapon he becomes a free man :V

But they do make 90% of the food a regular farmer does and eat only 50% of what farmers do. :3

Did I say anything about them fighing? No. I said we hold them in front of us as shields. :V (But yeah, I get your point. =p)
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Post by: Garlyle on April 13, 2013, 07:25:52 AM
Thralls (2), Salty Lord Of The Sea (5), WAAAAAR (1)
he's salty because we go to sea and kill his shit every time

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Post by: trancehime on April 13, 2013, 08:31:24 AM
Standard 2 (Thralls), 3 (Kill Elves!!!!), 2 (Balanced)

you guys are boring and chose Horsebro god :(
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Post by: Mr_Bob on April 13, 2013, 10:54:51 AM
Stick farmers? Heck yes, adopt them for their ass whoopin' ways.
And what's a combat enhanced, warfare revering people to do? Why make peace ala Big-Stick-ism, of course.
Also, wood floats on water, and that Sea Guy sounds smarmy as heck. Though beating Elves with the wood that protects them sounds wonderful too.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 13, 2013, 11:04:20 PM
Awesome, I still don't have to figure out how to count Bob's multi-votes because he keeps voting for things that don't win anyway. :V So, we welcome others as our own (at least, other Orlanthi!), our ancestral enemies are the Praxians, and we are a balanced clan.

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Finally, the sun rose again. While the rest of society worked to find food, or just otherwise survive, the First Priests worked to re-establish links with the ancient deities. Thanks to this new harmony between people and deities, the world was slowly improved. Once the awakening process had begun, it got easier and went quicker as the gods helped wake each other up.

Who was the first deity which your clan helped to awaken?

1. None. Our ancestors were good enough.

None. We retained worship of our Living Deity:
-- 2. Elmal, the Loyal Thane
-- 3. Urox, the Storm Bull
-- 4. Odayla, the Hunter

5. Ernalda, the Mother Goddess
6. Orlanth, the Father
7. Issaries, the Talking God
8. Lhankor Mhy, the Knowing God
9. Chalana Arroy, the Healing Goddess
10. Uralda, the Cow Mother


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Things have been different since the Dawn, thirteen hundred years ago. Orlanth and the other gods retreated from the world, leaving it to mortals. We can still contact the gods through ritual and sacrifice, or enter their realm by re-enacting the great stories about their deeds, which contain great magic. But they no longer walk beside us. When we settled in a new place we marked this great change in the world by naming our land, not after a god, but after a mortal like ourselves. We named it Heortland, in honor of the king who taught us how to survive during the Darkness.

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About six hundred years ago, a dragon approached us, in either its own form or that of a human with a dragon's soul inside it. The dragons had always been hostile, or at the very best, utterly uncaring. Orlanth has always been the dragon-slayer. After an appropriate debate, we had to choose whether to believe the dragon, to cooperate and learn what dragons know, or to refuse the dragon and maintain neutrality, or to actively oppose the dragon's plans.

What was our attitude towards the dragons?

1. Hostile - We fought against them.
2. Negative - We would never believe a dragon.
3. Neutral - We didn't go along.
4. Positive - We joined into their dragon knowledge.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 13, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
This section of questions were all pretty much as straightforward as they seemed.

Question 3: Thralls?
Follow in the ways of your ancestors, get some extra magic. End of story. In addition to my little bit to Stein in between the updates about thralls as labor, there's a few extra fiddly bits like taking thralls in a raid for some reason doesn't count (at least in favor of a thrall-taking clan; no idea if it counts against a non-thrall-taking one), and if you lose a raid on your own turf the enemies will probably let a bunch of 'em go. There's a few events that you only get if you have thralls but they're not particular special - it'd be neat to see some of them if we had chosen to take thralls but it's not a huge loss either.

Question 4: Ancestral Enemy
We can expect to see at least some of most of the enemy choices no matter who we have a hate-on for, the ancestors just don't care what we do with the others. :V

Trolls will probably raid us all the damn time anyway. This is actually nice because they're chumps and we can basically use them to fuel a blessing that I'll mention when I go over blessings and such in proper detail.

Beastmen can totally be our bros as long as our ancestors don't get pissy when we don't beat them up on sight. And then if we do pick up on them too much they call in the big guns and stomp on our faces. Picking these guys is basically hardmode, and also mean, because you'll see how awesome the littler guys are (probably fairly soon actually!). :3

Elves pretty much actually don't care as long as you don't cut down too many trees. Glorantha elves are actually made of trees. Everything about Glorantha is the best thing about Glorantha. But yeah, even if you do choose them as your enemy you basically have to try to anger them, and even then they pretty much hide in the trees and shoot a dude sometimes.

Praxians are moderately strong but not insurmountable. Picking them as your enemies mostly just makes them show up to raid you more often - normally, you can go explore their turf, and you might see a raid or two by them, but the biggest deal is a major event chain in the late-ish game.

The Sea just gets you flooded sometimes even though you're landlocked and you can't really do anything about it or beat anything up and it's a dumb enemy who's not even in the iOS version. =P

The Ice Tribe makes your winters suck and sometimes you get a freak snowstorm in other seasons, but at least there's ice demons in there to go murder. Plus, your clan being really used to nasty winters gives you a bonus to actually trying to go do things outside your own turf during the winter.

Question 5: Clan Orientaton
We can actually change our clan orientation at any time later in the game, though it costs a turn and gives us a magic penalty for not following the ways of ur ancestors. (I hear but have not personally confirmed that if you maintain a new orientation for long enough, it becomes the new tradition and you no longer take that penalty.)

War clans can spend more magic on War and Peace clans can spend more on Crops (and Herds maybe?). But even a Peace clan can't go without war entirely - you'll get raided no matter what your orientation, and you still need to launch raids yourself or else your warriors will get angry at you and eventually your war magic will fail entirely (but not without warning, at least)! The more peaceful on the scale, the less frequently you'll have to go on the offensive.

Full-on War is generally considered the most difficult orientation - as the main source I'm cribbing this stuff from says, "in KoDP it is easier to make your own fortune than to take someone else's". Amusingly, that fortune you're making makes it easier to sustain a larger fighting force to boot.
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Post by: Iced Fairy on April 14, 2013, 12:34:51 AM
7 - We like talking to people, even if we stab them later.
3 - Never make a deal with a dragon.  Wait, wrong game system....
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Post by: trancehime on April 14, 2013, 01:31:17 AM
Praxians? Really?
Have fun with Jaldor Goldentooth Arashishi!

3. Urox, I dislike the Chaos enough that we should totally have some way to deal with it first thing. :V

4. Positive, if we're horsebros we can totally be dragonbros too.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 14, 2013, 01:34:33 AM
Praxians? Really?
Have fun with Jaldor Goldentooth Arashishi!

... yeah true I bet the easier ways to deal with him don't work so well if they and we have hate-ons for each other :V

Still think I prefer it to beastmen.
Duckbros4lyfe
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Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 14, 2013, 02:37:52 AM
This time, I'm going with Odayla(4) and Positive(4).
I see no bad in being cool with dragons.
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Post by: Garlyle on April 14, 2013, 03:59:11 AM
Let us be brothers of The Udder Mother (10) and make wa--nah, it's freaking dragons, let's be at peace with them (4)
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Post by: Amraphenson on April 14, 2013, 04:36:43 AM
Let us be brothers of The Udder Mother (10) and make wa--nah, it's freaking dragons, let's be at peace with them (4)

going with it.
the most monmusu option
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Post by: Von Stein on April 14, 2013, 05:41:54 AM
Chalk one more up too Moomom and Dragonbros.
Let's try not to piss off Eldritch Abominations too much. No matter which level, dream to true to whatever...

10, 4
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Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 14, 2013, 05:45:00 AM
I'll have to go with 9. Chalana Arroy, the Healing Goddess because I can only imagine we'll have to deal with stuff that requires healing sooner or later. As for the dragon, 3. Neutral
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 14, 2013, 05:45:26 AM
Eldritch Abominations

Naw thats's not dragons, that's Chaos shit. We want to fuck up Chaos shit.
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Post by: Mr_Bob on April 14, 2013, 08:30:28 AM
Awesome, I still don't have to figure out how to count Bob's multi-votes because he keeps voting for things that don't win anyway.
Just being as relevant as always!

3. Urox for having the best name.  Them slithery wurms be tricksy, precious, all they do is lie (2).
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Post by: Hello Purvis on April 14, 2013, 06:25:32 PM
OUR ANCESTORS WERE GOOD ENOUGH.

And as a kinda peace clan, we can be dragobros, too.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 14, 2013, 11:06:37 PM
Looks like we awoke Uralda and treated the dragons positively - in addition to horsebros, we're cowbros and dragonbros. :3 (Let's just not be broobros. :ohdear:)

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Most of the people who said "Yes" to the dragons moved to Dragon Pass, a land to the north of our home, Heortland. We stayed in Heortland, and it was a good thing, too, for a little over two hundred years ago, the dragons rose up and ate everyone who lived in Dragon pass. They ate the Orlanthi along with all the other foolish human dragonfriends. For a long time, no humans went to Dragon Pass; everyone was sure the dragons would eat them, too.

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Recent events in Heortland made us think twice about the abandoned land of Dragon Pass. A generation ago, an usurper who called himself the Pharaoh came to Heortland and started a civil war. Our clan was one which broke into disputes, sometimes violent, about whether to support the Pharaoh or not. In the end, our group of dissidents decided it would be better to risk the dangers of Dragon Pass than to stay and kill our own kin, which is the greatest sin an Orlanthi can commit. The dissidents unable to live under the Pharaoh would come northward to Dragon Pass. People of similar beliefs from other clans had already made the same decision, and settled lands there. So we made a new clan, and made it a Balanced clan, just as our ancestors had done in the time of King Heort.

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Our new clan made the dangerous trek to Dragon Pass and selected a place to live. Like the other Orlanthi refugees from Heortland, we settled in Quiviniland, a mountainous area in the southeastern quadrent of Dragon Pass. We would call these lands our home, or tula. Tradition required that we make a formal land claim.

1. Enough land for our people and herds, no more.
2. More land than we needed, to grow into.
3. Lots more than we would probably need.
4. Huge tracts, far more than we needed.


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And that's it for the questionnaire! The start of this update is why I broke up the questionnaire, of course - I'd originally wanted to do it all at once (with a much longer vote probably), but I was worried that knowing the dragons murdered the crap out of everyone last time might affect what you guys voted our ancestors did.

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We will, however, still need to decide on a name for our clan (as you can see in the screenshot, 10 characters max, including any spaces). I'm pretty sure y'all don't want to be the Greenwings. Or maybe you do? (Since I initially wanted to do the entire questionnaire at once, this screenshot is the result of a relatively "default" set of answers - it's the setup the tutorial uses. It's not necessarily any sort of "best" setup by any means, though it's far from horrible either.)

I will not be giving you the option of difficulty or game length. Easy is... pretty easy - still not a total cakewalk, but probably too safe to be interesting. Hard is just like Average but with fewer starting resources, which isn't really that fun an extra challenge. =P As for game length, Short just requires you to become king of your tribe and hold the crown for 10 years (there's a couple other requirements but they're pretty trivial by the time you've got a king). Long is where all the actual overarching plot is hiding. If you can win Short you can probably win Long, but for the sake of an LP it's worth the drawn-out length to get the extra content.

We may succeed, we may crash and burn horribly, it may even be more my fault than yours - I feel like I have played and read enough to be fairly competent at  this game, but who knows! All I know is that this will be AN ADVENTURE.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 15, 2013, 12:17:09 AM
Question 6: Awakened Deity
These all grant a blessing known ans a shrine maintaining it.

Our ancestors grant Protection (defends against hostile spirits)
Elmal grants Steadfast. If he is also your clan's main god, his shrine is instead a temple with that and Sun (helps crops).
Urox grants Berserker (increases the chance of victory in combat, but with more deaths and wounds on both sides).
Odayla grants Tracking.
Ernalda grants Bless Crops. If she is also your clan's main god, her shrine is instead a temple with that and Swine Blessing (increases the fertility of our pigs).
Orlanth grants Rain. If he is also your clan's main god, his shrine is instead a temple with that and Lightning (deals out more wounds in battle).
Issaries grants Spare Grain (gets extra food when we trade for food).
Lhankor Mhy grants Lawspeaker (aids in legal cases and ensures that the clan mood isn't soured by unresolved disputes).
Chalana Arroy grants Healing. Chalana Arroy's two enshrinable blessings, Curing and Healing, work a bit differently than most - maintaining a shrine passively cures your sick or heals your wounded faster than normal, but sacrificing for the blessing directly heals a number of them instantly. Because of this, these are the only two blessing you can sacrifice for while also having a shrine for them.
Uralda grants Milk Blessing (increases the milk yield of our cows - generally we get one unit of food per year per four cows).

A lot of the blessings we can get through this were either covered in other questions are the weaker blessings of their gods. They're all still pretty good, regardless.

Question 7: Dragon Attitude
Much like the thralls question, we'll be expected to follow our ancestors' attitude to dragons. Even though they totally ate the Empire of Wyrms' Friends. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 15, 2013, 01:36:02 AM
FUCKING DRAGONS
Just enough to grow. That is, 2.
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Post by: trancehime on April 15, 2013, 02:07:27 AM
3

clan name: Volsung 
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Post by: Sagus on April 15, 2013, 02:20:21 AM
Voting 2.
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Post by: Von Stein on April 15, 2013, 04:53:54 AM
4

We must have all the land! All of it!

Also I see no problems with that dragon uprising. I am sure enough humans pissed them off to just put us on the menu. I mean shit, who says humans are the top of the food chain anyways?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 15, 2013, 05:09:49 AM
Surely someone besides Trance has an opinon on what our clan's name should be? :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Garlyle on April 15, 2013, 05:25:10 AM
#2, call it Arengee in a vain, foolish attempt to win the favour of That Which Shall Not Be Known

Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: capt. h on April 15, 2013, 05:46:24 AM
I vote we worship Uralda and select the clan name Cowbros.
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Post by: Von Stein on April 15, 2013, 05:47:06 AM
Welp, missed the naming part.

Clearly we should be called Stein. All will bow before Clan Stein!

Or maybe we can go with Moordor?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 15, 2013, 05:50:29 AM
I vote we worship Uralda

Too late, we already do. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Mr_Bob on April 15, 2013, 08:02:17 AM
They tricks us, nasty, foul, wyrms, we hates it! 
I warned you! I warned you! But did you listen to me? Oh no, you know all didn't ya? Oh it's just a harmless little bunny dragon, isn't it? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM9Bynjh2Lk#t=1m44s)

We should be named The French. With huge.... tracts of land (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVWH01E2weA#t=28s).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on April 15, 2013, 08:40:24 AM
3, and I'm saying that we go with Stein's suggestion of Moordor!
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Post by: Sagus on April 15, 2013, 12:18:26 PM
Moordor
Well goddamnit now I have to vote for this name too
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 15, 2013, 05:35:54 PM
2.  We can steal more land when we need it.  I figure much more and we'll just end up getting it stolen while we're noobs.

And sure.  Moordoor.  Let's go with that.
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Post by: Hello Purvis on April 15, 2013, 05:36:47 PM
The clan's name shall be One-Winged Stab Bat

As for land, anything that's not choice 1.

Edit: Okay, so APPARENTLY there's some commie character limit. So instead, let's have the clan name be DefLeppard
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 15, 2013, 06:41:41 PM
I'm sorry Purvis, I can't hear you over the sound of Moordor. And I figure we may take option 2 for the land, we need some room for those horses and cows after all.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 15, 2013, 11:54:37 PM
Alright Clan Moordor, I'mma move us into our room to grow tula, actual gameplay update will be ready when it's ready. (Which may take a bit because I'll have tons of "need to take a ton at the start but not much later on" screenshots to take and crop, but should still probably get finished tonight.)

I'm just gonna fiat all the sim actions in the first year to set us off on the right foot and also try to introduce a good variety of our options. (Anything I don't do in the first year I'll cover near the end of the year, just to hit all the bases.) Unless I run into some needs-clan-input issue with organizing my clan ring, this means you'll probably only get to vote on events for the first year, but we still shouldn't have more than a season to worry about before that happens anyway.

Just to finish off the "so what do all these options do" clan formation questions, our starting amount of land is a pretty cut-and-dry tradeoff between space for crops/pasture/hunting vs. defensibility - larger and/or more heavily forested tulas make it easier for your enemies to sneak up on you.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 16, 2013, 02:22:17 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20002/kodp002-01_zpsfa751c34.png:original)
One does not simply ride into Moordor... unless they are Moordor, I suppose.

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So the game starts us out in 1329 at Sacred Time, the two-week period at the end of the Gloranthan year. (The Gloranthan year consists of five seasons of eight weeks each, plus the two weeks of Sacred Time.) Each Sacred Time we get a screen much like this, though future Sacred Times will give us an update on various clan numbers instead of the fixed background blurb. You can also hover over basically any feature here to see various things about our tula, like the little Elmal shrine, our cows, our weaponthanes, etc. (Our Uralda shrine is hiding behind the text. =P)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20002/kodp002-03_zps87dfcbfd.png:original)
Every Sacred Time we allocate our magic reserve for the year. The nobles present on the clan ring affect the amount you have available to spend and how much you can put into each category. The omens for the year (the first of which is always harvest-related) are to the left, and our reputation meter is in the middle. Also, along the bottom you can see some at-a-glance numbers of for the clan, along with the current members of the clan ring, which is sort of the clan government. (You can click on them on nearly any screen for advice, but it tends to not be very useful outside of events.)

Children gives us more mouths to feed until they grow up. No one ever put magic in this so they took it out for the iOS version. :V
Crops gives us a higher crop yield. (Increased by Ernalda and Barnar worshipers.)
Diplomacy helps any emissaries we send out and also boosts the background reputation-maintaining of our traders. (Increased by Issaries and Lhankor Mhy worshipers.)
Health makes the sick and injured recover faster. (Increased by Chalana Arroy worshipers.)
Herds makes our herds (of all animal types - cows are sort of the gold standard but we also have horses, sheep, and pigs) more fertile. (Increased by Uralda worshipers.)
Hunting increases the yield of our hunters. I'm seeing one source say this was also removed for iOS but all I'd heard about from most was Children, so I'm not sure. (Increased by Odayla worshipers? The wiki says nothing but I don't see why they wouldn't...)
Mysteries raises the chance of success when we sacrifice to learn the mysteries of the gods. The bonus decreases the more we try in a given year. (Increased by Lhankor Mhy worshipers.)
Quests makes it way, way more likely for our first heroquest of the year to succeed (and you generally don't want to try more than once a year anyway, preferably once every other year). (Increased by Eurmal worshipers, and oh hey we actually have such a trickster right here... :3)
Trade increases basically everything trade-related: the income of our market, the number of routes we can support, the profit of any specific trading missions... (Increased by Issaries worshipers.)
War takes a little explanation, though I'll mostly cover war later on when it comes up - you can also spend magic in individual battles, and every point of magic spent here at the start of the year acts as a point spent in every single battle that year.

For now I put two points each into Crops and Herds, and one in War. (Most games I'd put one in Herds and maybe two in War, but I also tend not to start with a second checkbox of Herds available in the first place.) I actually don't intend to go on the offensive for raiding in the very first year (though if anyone really wants me to, just mention it during this voting period, I'll squeeze one in anyway), but that point will be useful when we inevitably get raided outselves.

It's not a good idea to spend every single point of magic you have available each year. Many events allow you to spend some magic on them (or just remove a few points as a side effect!), and your free magic also acts as the luck stat for your clan.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20002/kodp002-04_zps686945eb.png:original)
And thus, we enter the first "month" of Sea season. (While the Gloranthan calendar lacks months per se, as the seasons are eight weeks long, they effectively have two months each, and the game grants two actions per season.) Sea season is the time for planting, and all your farmers will be needed to help out - don't go raiding during Sea if you value your food income! It's fine to send small bands out exploring or accompanying a trading or diplomatic mission, and it's usually a good time to do so.

The various little carvings along the top banner serve as our menus - the currently glowing one of two people in the middle tells us we're on the Clan screen. Along the left, we can see the general state in numbers of our clan, and the slightly-raised-looking ones let us tweak some numbers. We'll probably see all the dialogs for that aside from probably hunters in the near future, so I'll cover those then.

The rock with th ecarvings in the middle appears on many of the screens, with a different configuration of carvings. These tell us about our relevant known and active blessings. Uncarved (grey) are ones we don't know, carved are ones we do, glowing are active. (I didn't check which one this known one is, but it's from our Ancestors, my guess is Divination since I know we have to sacrifice to learn Protection.)

To the right, we can reorganize our clan ring/change our clan orientation, throw a feast, or give gifts to the farmers or weaponthanes. We'll be reorganizing our ring in a moment, but first I'll show a couple other screens!

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The circle with the lines across brings up our map. There's actually a fair bit more than this shot shows, you can scroll around by clicking near the edges, but this covers all of our currently known area, with a couple spots of unknown mixed in. We can also send out explorers from here, so don't expect it to say quite this fogged for long! You can press M to show clan borders (which I forgot to do for this shot). The clan names are color-coded to show the relationships:

Blue (ally) > light purple > dark purple > pink > red (feud)

I've usually seen it start off with two feuds and two allies, I guess we got unlucky. :( One of the two feuds (the Elkenvali) is a neighbor, they'll probably be our main punching bag for raids. (Speaking of people we hate, that barest sliver of a location name you can see off to the east is Prax.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20002/kodp002-06_zps1af46e50.png:original)
The background screen lets us look up myths and other background info. (I've chosen to screencap these later on, since I had a lot to cap for this update already - they'll be added to the second post of the thread once I do.) The History and Culture sections we just always know everything, but we don't start out knowing all the myths - the double circle marks myths of which we know the details, the rest we'll have to sacrifice for. This is because all the ones we don't know (plus Elmal Guards the Stead, granted because our main god is Elmal) are myths we can perform heroquests for - basically our clan gets together and LARPs the myth! A number of questable myths also have deeper secrets, some of which we can get via sacrifice, others we have to get in other ways.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20002/kodp002-07_zpse1e5936c.png:original)
The scroll at the very far end of the menu bar brings up the clan saga. We're not very interesting yet.

Now, to go rearrange that ring!

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... damnit game, not only is Dorasor not our best leader, he's not even our best Elmal-worshipping leader. >=|

The reorganization screen lets you sort your nobles by skill in a given stat or in chunks of the alphabet. Hovering over a noble displays their stats in the box on the right. Skill levels proceed from unlisted to Fair, Good, Very Good, Excellent, Renowned, Heroic - there is some variation within a given tier, though. Anyway, there ended up being some fiddly bits, but nothing I felt was major enough to merit a vote. Points of interest:

- The second-best in our clan at Combat is our trickster (Orlgard is best though.)
- We have an Uroxi, those are kinda rare. =O (He's only third-best at combat and otherwise unremarkable, Orlgard is better in basically every way)
- Iskalli is actually also the best we have at Custom. (Harsaltar is second-best, I figured we probably want a lawspeaker who's not also our chief. No Lhankor Mhy dudes spawned though. :()
- ... every single femal noble in our clan worships Ernalda or Uralda. Uneven (well, un-as even as you can get with an odd number) gender ratio makes our fertility take a hit, but doubling up on gods makes our magic take a hit - I'll keep the magic please.
- We have no one better than Very Good at Magic - our best is a different Ernaldan but Iskalli is still in that range, so I dedicated the Ernalda slot to our best Plants chick instead (at Excellent)
- Engarna is only second-best at Animals but out best is a guy (worships Odayla), she's a notch lower but again, gender balance.

Our ring:
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_stats_1330_zps11657af4.png:original) (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_stats_1330_zpsefe7fb6c.png:original) (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_stats_1330_zpsa86d9e47.png:original) (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_stats_1330_zps0abf64ae.png:original) (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin_zps1b9b0ab4.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin_stats_1330_zps5d0ec498.png:original) (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_stats_1330_zpsc9d7f530.png:original) (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_stats_1330_zps33d98b03.png:original)

And our Uroxi just in case anyone's curious:
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/rostandos_zps9c8e5fdd.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/rostandos_stats_1330_zpsf2caa602.png:original)

Reorganizing the ring takes an action, but we don't end up getting an event for the first month of Sea anyway, so let's see to some farming!

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You can see on the rock our active Milk Blessing. We can slaughter some of our animals for food, but hopefully we'll never have to. We can adjust our amounts of fields, pasture, and woods here. I crank the fields up enough that our estimated crop yield is ~1000 units of food (one person eats one bushel per year) and our pasture is roughly double what we need (leaves room for growth, and unused pasture gradually returns to wilderness anyway).

I also adjust the ratios of the various crops - wheat is very fickle, yielding lots when the weather's good but almost none when it's bad; rye is very hardy and should be increased when the omens are bad; barley is sort of in the middle and when the omens are average I'll probably be running mostly that. Barley also gets the highest boost from Bless Crops and makes your clan extra-happy because it makes good beer (which is precisely the advice tricksters give here). You should still grow some of every type of grain no matter what, Ernalda isn't happy if you neglect any of her children. Most people say 15-20% of each, I tend to err on the side of more.

And then, when I move away from the Farming screen, we get our first event!

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Orlkensor, a thane of the Kardavi clan, comes to you to ask for information about Arkilla, chief of the Grey Fox clan. "We intend to enter into negotiations with Arkilla, and hope that you know something about her personality, so that we will be well prepared for our parley with the Grey Foxes. You owe us a favor, and we will consider your obligation discharged if you give us good information."

1. "Arkilla? We know her well."
2. "Let us give you a gift, instead of information."
3. "We don't know anything about Arkilla."
4. "We'll try to answer your questions, but do not guarantee our answers will be right."
5. "What do you take us for? A pack of tattle-tales?"


Events all let you toggle the text box (with Space) to see the lovely art~. For each event I'll be including the advice from each ring member, though sometimes they give duplicate advice. They usually also favor a specific option or options, which are highlighted blue, but frequently their advice text doesn't obviously correspond to any option, which is the primary reason I'm including the numbers for all options, so I can tell you which they support easily. =P

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Better to give Orlkensor a gift than information we are unsure of. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) It is wise to gather intelligence on one's neightbors. (No suggestion.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) The best gift of all is... well, a gift. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Arkilla is so silver-tongued she could convince a man to slit his own throat. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin_zps1b9b0ab4.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Answer his questions; it is good to give him words instead of cows. (1, but apparently neither one has any actual information about Arkilla to give us. >=| )
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Just tell him what we think of him, as if we were speaking about Arkilla. (No suggestion.)

It's worth noting that the question could be any of several, but we only have the information on one possibility - clicking the ? button off to the left does let you view information on other clans during events, but the blurbs are not useful here.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 16, 2013, 02:47:08 AM
I am gonna guess that putting an arrow through the shmucks' heads and just klingon promoting ourselves to the heads of the new clan is not viable?

I'm personally leaning 1 then.

Let them walk into another death trap. >=)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 16, 2013, 03:33:15 AM
I am gonna guess that putting an arrow through the shmucks' heads and just klingon promoting ourselves to the heads of the new clan is not viable?

Nope. :V

And even if it were, then we'd probably just have more people hating us already. =P

Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: trancehime on April 16, 2013, 04:39:51 AM
option 4 like any sane old person would

just to see the results, of course. for DIPLOMACY
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 16, 2013, 06:41:58 AM
Well, that's a tough one. Gonna go with option 4 here as well, let's be honest with the little bits of info we have at all.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Garlyle on April 16, 2013, 07:07:01 AM
I'm voting 1.  That's coming from our Diplomat, afterall - if anyone would know about her, he would.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 16, 2013, 02:12:05 PM
Do we even know anything about them anyways :v
Let's go with 4.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 16, 2013, 02:36:30 PM
2.  4 is sensible, but we could use some more allies.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 16, 2013, 04:40:07 PM
Voting 1; as Garlyle said, dude's our diplomat. If he's wrong at least we'll know that we need a better person for that position.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 16, 2013, 07:21:05 PM
Well we do know their chief is silver-tongued. Normally we'd have more than one damn ring member contributing useful info though.

Also Sartark is our best diplomat. He has the most Bargaining. It's him. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 16, 2013, 09:36:03 PM
#1. Our diplomat knows best. Or at least he better.


Also, don't forget to tell folks how you want your council to be composed of followers of the seven major gods for proper mirroring of the divine, and thus bonuses!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 16, 2013, 09:54:29 PM
Also, don't forget to tell folks how you want your council to be composed of followers of the seven major gods for proper mirroring of the divine, and thus bonuses!

It's doesn't actually matter which seven gods, as long as they're seven different ones - the ring of seven members is supposed to mirror the Lightbringers (http://moondesignpublications.com/page/lightbringers) (which is also where we get the gender balance from, though for that it doesn't matter which gender our 4 vs. 3 is), and two of the Lightbringers (Flesh Man and Ginna Jar) aren't even represented in KoDP.

I did mention when I was putting together our ring that we want no repeats - though failing to do so is a penalty, rather than a bonus for doing it. Well, whichever way it counts, we want ALL THE MAGIC. :3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 17, 2013, 12:04:12 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20003/kodp003-01_zpscad6091a.png:original)
I took the really waffly middle option because this isn't the whole one possible question we know the answer to.

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... I know y'all that voted for this option said that our diplomat should know best on this stuff, but don't blame him for this, the dude's not psychic to know which question we were going to be asked. I blame the earth chicks who also said to pick option 1 but didn't actually have anything to say about Arkilla.

Anyway, now that we've pissed these guys off, it's Fire season. There's nothing to do for the crops except let them sit and grow, but the weather's good, so Fire's the traditional season to raid the crap out of everyone. But we're not going to this year. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20003/kodp003-03_zpsc3d64c15.png:original)
We will increase our weaponthane count from 10 to 14 though. Hiring weaponthanes, as it says, costs 3 cows' worth of goods immediately and a cow a year, and you have to have horses for your weaponthanes (though this doesn't "spend" horses, unlike goods). Our nobles also need horses, by the way.

We've still got plenty of horses and such but the game typically only lets you increase weaponthanes by so much at a time - while I didn't spend the second month of Fire hiring more, I did check to see that we could, and we can. I probably will come back to weaponthane hiring later in the year, but I have other tasks I want to take care of first.

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Here's the War screen without the weaponthane hiring dialogue in the way. Like on the Clan screen, the button-label on the weaponthanes count here brings up the "have more/less" dialog. Below that we have the number of people on patrol which I'll have to adjust all the damn time because new weaponthanes and ones returning from guarding trade/diplomacy missions or exploring don't get added immediately. The outer patrol spots raids earlier but will be too far away to respond if a raid does slip past them, whereas the inner patrol gives another chance to spot them and will be there and ready to fight.

If you do leave a number of dudes off patrol your weaponthanes will be happier (the off-duty ones rest and practice and can be assumed to rotate duties among them, though the game doesn't track each dude individually), but keeping weaponthanes happy is hilariously trivial so who cares.

Also on the left there's the buttons to launch cattle raids and regular raids. I'll cover these in more detail when we actually do launch a raid, in the meantime I think they're pretty self-explanatory aside from the fact that a cattle raid is much smaller and just to go steal some cows with. On the right there's options to build various fortifications. The watch tower helps spot dudes (and is super-cheap so I do intend to build one soon), the stake perimeter impales mounted enemies, and everything else is hilariously vague "helps against raids" stuff.

The first half of Fire went by without an event again (no I'm pretty sure I'm not running into the save loading bug Mystic Mongol had early in his LP, since I'm using a virtual machine and its own savestates to let me save and exit the damn game during events for y'all to have a voting period).

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20003/kodp003-05_zps94d25312.png:original)
I took this month to go increase my crafters to the max for delicious delicious goods. I also reallocate one bit of production from plain goods to fancy goods. We'll be able to get some more specialized crafting categories (for example, ivory) by finding them when exploring our own tula, but in the meantime I want to start raking in the wealth. (I may feel the need to go hiring farmers soon after depending on how many dudes we actually need to farm all our fields.)

Crafters are capped relative to your population, but pretty much everyone always maxed them out anyway, so in the iOS version they're always pegged at max. :V (IIRC it also eliminated the management of crop ratios, for an action we did last update and I forgot to mention it for.)

Also apparently I forgot to toggle off Orlgard's advice bubble for this screenshot. This is even more useless than the noble advice on most screens tends to be.

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Killer-Gustand of the Six Brothers comes seeking your help with a raid against the Rakstanti. He reminds you of the obligations you owe to the Six Brothers, and tells you that the storehouses of the Rakstanti are like a tantalizing fruit, ripe for the picking.

1. Offer sacrifices to a war god of Gustand's choice.
2. Politely decline his request.
3. Send a full war party.
4. Send only a token force.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Clans that answer such requests are respected, and follow Orlanth's way. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) The Rakstanti are unpredictable. Sometimes they fight poorly; sometimes, ferociously. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin_zps1b9b0ab4.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) An appeal to the gods might be just as useful as a provision of soldiers. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Even if we send more warriors than the Six Brothers, Gustand will have cause to be offended if we try to take most of the loot. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) If he's so big, why doesn't he do it himself? (No suggestion. From now on I'm just gonna note this by not noting things. =P)

Oh look it's an event with the exact same art as last time. A lot of events will have an option that launches you into a full-on raid but I'm fairly certain this one just auto-ships off some dudes and brings them back immediately if you pick one of the "send dudes" options. I'm not even sure this one has you actually pick numbers like most of those do.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 17, 2013, 12:23:34 AM
Once again diplomacy has failed us.  Time to stack the corpses high.

3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 17, 2013, 12:27:41 AM
Do we even have enough dudes to send? Lik,e, if a number of them die in this, how defenseless will we be?

If we can afford to send them, I'll go with 3 as well; if not, 4

EDIT: Considering Shuu's post I'll go and vote only for 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 17, 2013, 12:28:52 AM
I've consulted with my oldpal Arengee, and we cam eto the conclusion that we should Just offer some sacrifices and shoo the clowns out of here.

1

Be weary of Arengee's advice of course.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 17, 2013, 12:56:33 AM
Do we even have enough dudes to send? Lik,e, if a number of them die in this, how defenseless will we be?

If we can affordo to send them, I'll go with 3 as well; if not, 4

I don't think we're likely to suffer any deaths here, and even if we do we've got some seasons before we're likely to see any combat anyway.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Amraphenson on April 17, 2013, 01:00:02 AM
3
COMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 17, 2013, 05:49:47 AM
How could we not help a man with a trustworthy name like Killer-Gustand? I say we send so many soldiers that the Rakstani will have to build new store houses just so everyone can have something to raid! Option 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: trancehime on April 17, 2013, 06:39:09 AM
... and two of the Lightbringers (Flesh Man and Ginna Jar) aren't even represented in KoDP.

I am pretty sure the Flesh Man is represented in the game as a
lovingly useless
treasure. :V But you would be correct in that the thing can't be worshipped. So there is that!

Toss up between 1 and 4, but in these sorts of situations this early in the game it is usually more rewarding to go with 1, so 1 it is.  :moogy:


Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Garlyle on April 17, 2013, 07:02:48 AM
#4.  We'll give 'em a hand but no sense risking more lives than necessary when we're still getting on our feet.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 17, 2013, 03:12:58 PM
Fight the fight!
Let's go with 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 18, 2013, 12:34:18 AM
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oh no we lost one weaponthane whatever shall we do (answer: just recruit more later in the year like we were probably going to anyway)

You can see that when we gain or lose things during events, the numbers down by the clan ring flash into red for loss (and blue for gain, but we didn't gain in this event).

And now it's Earth season! This is the season for bringing in the harvest, and so again pretty much all hands are needed. Thus, like Sea season, Earth is pretty much "do anything but raid" time.

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I start out by having our Uroxi dude explore our own tula with a small defensive party (and I remembered to turn the borders on on the map so you could see them! Pretty much the only option here that might need some explaining is the travel speed - logically, it's a tradeoff between speed and thoroughness, with slower travel revealing more of the map... but any exploration of your own tula is instantaneous game-wise at any speed, so I'm not even sure slower is more thorough here either.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20004/kodp004-03_zps322e84af.png:original)
Success! We found one of the various crafting materials. I'm going to wait until we have some more before I spend a turn switching any of our crafters over, though.

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I spend the other month of Earth breaking shit for Storm Bull (and a hefty amount of shit, too, since I wanted to be sure but couldn't really spare the point in Mysteries back in Sacred Time). Earth isn't typically the season for sacrifices, but I wanted to make sure to fulfill that omen from the start of the year. I believe I covered Berserker in one of the "so what the hell did y'all vote for" posts, but suffice it to say if Urox is gonna make me learn a blessing, I'd rather get either of the others.

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Dorasa introduces the ring members to Orlkensor Bronzebones, a warrior of the Six Brothers clan. Orlkensor has been outlawed by Rostalos. Dorasa says she knows Orlkensor well. "Orlkensor doesn't want to say why he was outlawed, but he is a true and just fellow, so the ruling must be political. We should take him in."

1. Demand that he explain why he was outlawed.
2. Find another clan to take him in.
3. Give him quarters in Dorasa's stead.
4. Give him quarters in the chief's hall.
5. Refuse him.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We can always use an extra weaponthane. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) Orlkensor carries himself as a true warrior. The weaponthanes will be offended if he is not treated well. Or, on the other hand, if he is treated better than they. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) People sometimes get outlawed for no good reason. Orlkensor probably offended his chieftain. (2, 3, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) When Oskul the Brave slew the seven Weeping Knights, he aroused the jealousy of Bad King Urgrain, who then outlawed him.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin_zps1b9b0ab4.png:original) Orlkensor carries himself as a true warrior. The weaponthanes will be offended if he is not treated well. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)  Why does he come running for another clan? He should exult in his opportunity, for now he can experience freedom from all entanglements. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) He must have killed someone, or committed some gross act of adultery. (1)

Oh wow this is way earlier than I usually see this event pop.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 18, 2013, 05:25:50 AM
Who's Dorasa anyway?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 18, 2013, 05:38:52 AM
Who's Dorasa anyway?

Some thoroughly uninteresting noble we have sitting around not on the ring. She might've been the Ernalda worshiper with the Magic that I passed over in favor of Enerin and her Plants?

p.s. I finally cropped my screenshots of the blurbs about the other clans in the pass, they're in the second post of the thread.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 18, 2013, 07:11:22 AM
Poor Dorasa, a good junk of the clan ring is shipping her with Orlkensor.

While I am highly tempted to a) torture him to a slow death with Teletubbies, to find out why he was outlawed, and b) find out how exactly we would find him another clan (I mean it's not like you pick up to call some central baby sitter clan agency, or the baby sitter clan down the road who might bring their clan friend over and then spend the whole night ignoring their weaponthane baby while making sweet, sweet babysitter clan love.), I think I shall say... let's jump on the shipping bandwagon.

3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: trancehime on April 18, 2013, 10:58:13 AM
3 the most reasonable response yeah.

Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on April 18, 2013, 01:23:07 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) He must have killed someone, or committed some gross act of adultery. (1)
Look who's talking.  Look at that portrait and then tell me with a straight face that this guy is on our side.

Anyway, 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 18, 2013, 02:49:56 PM
Bah, listening to our leaders has gotten us in trouble with another clan and a dead weaponthane.  I say 1.  Maybe the trickster has some competence.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 18, 2013, 05:18:26 PM
I'll give our leaders one last chance to prove they can actually give good advice. I'll go with 3.

Hopefully at worst dude will just kill Dorasa and disappear into the night or something.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 18, 2013, 06:46:34 PM
They think they know him. They know wrong.
1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 18, 2013, 07:45:36 PM
I wish we had any idea whether forcing him to explain things will still have the possibility of letting him into the clan. Well, I'll just assume that it isn't the same as refusing him (since that is an option of itself) and go with 1 - Ask him why he was exiled. If he hasn't done anything absolutely horrible, he should  not have any problems answering.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on April 18, 2013, 08:05:49 PM
[15:03:26] <~Whalesharkana> You know who should totally be the tiebreaker for Dragon Pass LP now? rdj! :D

orz

Let's go with 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 18, 2013, 09:56:46 PM
#2 is the proper choice; we make him someone else's problem, and he owes us.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 19, 2013, 12:17:36 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20005/kodp005-01_zpsb98e5392.png:original)
Surprise! I was going to ask him first the whole time, as a demonstration that sometimes events will let you do more than one thing. Usually this is if you start with an information-gathering option, though sometimes it'll also happen if one choice outright fails (not just goes poorly like when we sent warrior to help on that raid for a favor being called in), and a few events just have certain non-informational choices that just plain do give you more actions after.

I'm not going to make a habit of pointing them out though. ;) But do feel free to offer a sequence of options if you think it might be the case, or offer an "if asking says X, then Y, otherise Z", or still just always providing one thing, whichever way to vote you like! (Otherwise if such a thing happens I'll just go down the list by most votes and then use my judgement if I run out and still have options.)

... the information-gathering options usually just send you straight back to the main options, though...

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20005/kodp005-02_zpsd697285a.png:original)
Oh, because apparently asking first makes your weaponthanes sad. Good thing I backed up my virtual machine save state first. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20005/kodp005-03_zpsfe47832b.png:original)
Since just letting him stay at Dorasa's was the real winner.

Now we're in Dark season. It's the middle of winter and winter sucks. Any option that sends people outside of your own tula is likely to just straight-up fail because there's too much snow to get out. It makes a very good season to sacrifice in, though.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20005/kodp005-04_zpsd9fa1956.png:original)
But first I build a watch tower because it's dirt-cheap and whether it helping you spot raids actually works or not, it's always the first thing to get destroyed when enemies try to destroy your fortifications, so getting one up early makes good protection for anything you build later.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20005/kodp005-05_zpsc3b0865d.png:original)
After that I do sacrifice to Ernalda for mysteries, hoping to get Bless Crops. Preserve isn't horrible, at least, though it's not one I'm likely to actually use. Once we do get our footing (and I promise we're not as badly off as a some of you seem to think, even though the first few years are the hardest just because there's so much to do) we'll be rolling in too much food to care about spoilage.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20005/kodp005-06_zps0695cdd6.png:original)
A warrior of Urox from the Six Brothers appears in a rage, demanding that Orlkensor Bronzebones, the outlaw you took in last season, come out to fight him. "You have besmirched my honor, and must pay with your life," the Uroxi cries. Orlkensor is in your clan hall. He refuses to confront the man. "I have sworn a sacred vow to Ernalda that I will not harm him. And if we fight, one of us will surely die.

1. Ask Orlkensor why the Uroxi seeks him.
2. As the Uroxi why his honor is besmirched.
3. Demand that Orlkensor fight the Uroxi.
4. Suggest that they resolve their differences peacefully.
5. Use force to drive the Uroxi off.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) If we offend the Uroxi, we could have trouble with all the Storm Bulls in Dragon Pass. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) Storm Bulls need to remember their place. (2, 4, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) After this is over, we should give gifts to the Uroxi. (Silly Harsaltar, the Uroxi do count as a faction in all the under-the-hood systems stuff, but they're not one we can deal with directly.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Neither man is about to waver.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin_zps1b9b0ab4.png:original) We must find the peaceful way. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)  Sometimes the bulls have to fight, and nothing else will do. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Whew. For a second there, I thought he was after me. (2)

Another reason I was pleasantly surprised to see the Orlkensor event pop so early - it's a nice introduction to event chains. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on April 19, 2013, 12:28:10 AM
God damn it Mosdorl why are you so suspicious

Also 5, Orlkensor is our bro now, we do not betray our bros.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 19, 2013, 12:29:31 AM
Needs a 6: Put an arrow through the Uroxi's head and quietly hide is body all sneakylike, and when his brethren come searching, you just claim he never made his way here.

Either way, I am curious and would love to dig more. Ask the foo' what his beef is, and then see if they can't just share a cup of tea, kiss and make up.

And if they don't have tea, trying to discover it should distract both of them long enough for at least one of them to die of old age and all of us to not give any efs.

2, then if possible 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 19, 2013, 12:29:48 AM
I'm guessing with event chains 1 or 2 might give us some answers.  Depending on those I say we let em kill each other off 3 or just stab the jerk 5.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 19, 2013, 12:45:47 AM
God damn it Mosdorl why are you so suspicious
Trickster~ :3

Needs a 6: Put an arrow through the Uroxi's head and quietly hide is body all sneakylike, and when his brethren come searching, you just claim he never made his way here.
That's secret murder, we don't do secret murder. We can totally kill people but we have to do it good and honest-like.

Unless they're foreigners. Then all bets are off.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 19, 2013, 12:51:27 AM
Unless they're foreigners. Then all bets are off.

He ain't from Moordor, that much is certain~
Let's roast his hide, eat him and then just tell his brethren he's busy err... fertilizing.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 19, 2013, 02:07:00 AM
Can Clan Leaders have secret agendas that involve making a cup to become the sole Emperor of the Clan?
'Cause Mosdorl is really suspicious

Anyway, 2, then if possible 4, and if 4 doesn't work, 5.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: trancehime on April 19, 2013, 02:35:27 AM
Familiar event chain is familiar

5 because :axe:
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on April 19, 2013, 02:57:29 AM
3, honorable combat is the only way to resolve such disputes!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on April 19, 2013, 03:48:40 AM
God damn it Mosdorl why are you so suspicious

Also 5, Orlkensor is our bro now, we do not betray our bros.

Sounds about right to me. Seconding this.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 19, 2013, 06:03:14 AM
Since Orlkensor surely won't talk 2 let's ask the other one first.  After that, 4 let's try to settle this peacefully.
5 only as a last resort. If it has to come down to killing, I guess we'd rather keep our new friend than let him be killed.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on April 19, 2013, 01:30:37 PM
goddamn bold tags not working in member titles
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 20, 2013, 12:09:45 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-01_zps8eae8f5e.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-02_zps5d590b83.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-03_zpscfc9a3e2.png:original)
The most popular exact sequence was just going straight to driving him off, but at minimum asking questions first was more popular than not. (Trying to make, peace, though, fell just shy of making the list of attempts.) He injured two of our weaponthanes in the process but they healed up pretty much instantly, ha.

And now it's Storm season, the final season of the year. The weather's kinda all over the place in Storm season but not typically in such a way as to impede doing anything. Storm is the other major season for raids (though not to the same degree as Fire), in addition to being a season to do basically anything.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-04_zps0da9e4e6.png:original)
First I want to show off the trade screens just because I haven't this year and don't intend to actually use them. The main Trade screen gives us an overview - the game starts us off with a couple trade routes (which get us goods just for existing! the more trade partners we have, the more frequently our market will happen, but we can only sustain so many) and a treasure. Ol' Blacktail here helps us spawn some extra cows for a while but he is a living thing, so he'll keel over in a few years - we won't have to worry for a bit but it might be worth trying to sell/trade him off a while later for a more permanent treasure.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-05_zpsc369700c.png:original)
The Mission button brings up the menu to send off a trade mission. Everything here should be pretty self-explanatory, aside from the fact that if you choose to buy/sell treasures you can't buy/sell anything else.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-06_zpsd886298d.png:original)
Instead I'm going to send off a diplomatic mission to cash in a favor for some free cattle. We're far from in any dire situation on cattle, don't fret. We are just a little shy on oxen to plow the amount of fields I have, and it'd be nice to scoop them up now. I send our second-best bargainer on the job to ensure I have Sartark on the ring for Sacred Time - I'm fairly certain nobles injured or not present in the tula count as not on the ring at all for that purpose. (You send off diplomatic missions from the Relations screen, but I promise that it is boring as heck and all it's really good for is looking up the clan blurbs I have in the thread's second post.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-07_zpsb94766dd.png:original)
Then I pick us up some more weaponthanes. (It thinks we only have 11 right now because 3 of them are off with Kulbrast.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-08_zpse8b091db.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-09_zpsc3dc731a.png:original)
Sometimes you get mini-events like this one (common when exploring or diplo/trading). They're all pretty dull and not really worth leaving up to a vote. I probably should have had him try to bargain though since his Combat is only Fair, but since I didn't send any gifts with him (I probably should have) I wasn't sure whether I could actually bargain or not. At least we didn't lose anything but the turn we spent sending him off.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-10_zpse7e666ab.png:original)
Oh shush Engarna I'm gonna recruit more farmers as soon as I get a good chance to, calm down. (Our problem is more "too much fields" than "not enough dudes", which is the side of this problem you want to be on - I've still got enough people to feed the people I have, though not quite as comfortably as I'd like until we get some blessings set up and such.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-11_zps3c44a61c.png:original)
Also fairly common - updates on current events in the Pass that you can't do anything about and probably don't care about either.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-12_zpsed46e10a.png:original)
Suddenly, Sacred Time! I'm genuinely surprised that between Fire and Storm seasons we didn't see at least one raid on us to show off the details of, but oh well. There's plenty of time for that later.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20006/kodp006-13_zpsb52b4c37.png:original)
From now on every Sacred Time I'm gonna open up a vote to anything in particular you'd like to see me get done in the coming year. (But not to specific magic expenditures because that's tedious and dumb and leads to things like doing heroquests with no magic in Quests.)

In the absence of votes my general goals this year are likely to look something like:
- Keep getting the farming situation rolling (get more farmers, get more cattle, try get at least Bless Crops for blessings)
- Launch at least one raid (which will also help get cattle if successful)
- Possibly some basic war-related blessings (even if we don't attack, again, defense is important)
- Some exploration if we have time left (not sure where specifically)

The omens don't indicate anything in particular, either. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 20, 2013, 12:19:46 AM
Hm...  Can we explore our own lands again or are they pretty much cleaned out?  If we can search our own place for goods that'd be nice.  If not search the lands of someone we can face punch and take goods.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 20, 2013, 12:24:45 AM
Wait, we can vote for whatever, within reason?

Well then, since I shall gladly ignore the last part there...!

Find all your surrounding faces, and punch them Iced style!

Probably better if you don't.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 20, 2013, 12:31:10 AM
Hm...  Can we explore our own lands again or are they pretty much cleaned out?

There's piles and piles of stuff we've yet to find. Even after we find everything it's not a horrible idea to explore it every so often to murder some bandits in the face, anyway.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 20, 2013, 06:56:19 AM
I support Iced's idea of more exploration within our own tula. Aside from that... (http://i.imgur.com/YhsmHdx.gif)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 20, 2013, 11:58:25 PM
WE NEED MORE FARMS.

Also explore within the Tula. It's quick and can pay hella nice.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 21, 2013, 12:23:16 AM
EDIT: Purvis we have plenty of farms. We have so many farms we don't have enough farmers and cattle for them. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20007/kodp007-01_zps4e19c0a7.png:original)
Since exploring doesn't necessitate any particular magic expenditure and I was going to spend in War anyway, I even get to distribute magic how I would have just on my own!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original)
... damnit Enerin are you really going to make me crop you a new portrait just a year in?

Nobles age up at the beginning of the year - right after Sacred Time. Each portrait has three ages. Enerin's pretty decently old for our society, but we're not in any pressing need to worry about her keeling over anytime too soon either - plus she's the only noble on our ring who's notably old in the first place and Plants experts tend to be pretty interchangable.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20007/kodp007-02_zps886faf4f.png:original)
Anyway, I'll definitely make sure to get some exploring done this year, and I considered leading straight off with it, but I think first off I want some more farmers to get us more harvest. Everyone except "vagabonds and wanders" comes with kids, but as much as I complain about children, when I recruit farmers I tend to want as many at a time as I can, which means ticking off all the sources.

Farmer recruitment doesn't happen instantly though, and in the meantime...

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20007/kodp007-03_zpsa1270a53.png:original)
A wounded warrior stumbles desperately into the clan hall, an arm outstretched in a silent plea for help. From the symbols he wears, you recognize him as a holy warrior of Urox the Storm Bull. He says he was ambushed by Chaos worshippers. After you tend to him, what do you do?

1. Don't even tend to him; tell him to seek help elsewhere.
2. Tend to his wounds, and increase patrols.
3. Heal him, then lend him warriors to fight against Chaos.
4. Let him stay as long as he wants.
5. See him on his way as soon as he's well.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Storm Bulls are not exactly lawless. But most of them feel that rules are for other people. (1, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) If we are too rude to him, he will make trouble. If we are too welcoming, his friends will come here, and make trouble. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) If we're nice to him, maybe he'll build a Storm Bull shrine here.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) We have seen many ill omens and other signs of Chaos recently. (2, 3) (... we have?)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Storm Bull is brother to Orlanth. He is the bad wind. He is the smiter of Chaos, and the breaker of furniture.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)  It is easy to be polite to the well-mannered. The true test is if one can be courteous to the rude. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) He looks like a jolly fellow, I don't see what you're all afraid of. (4)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on April 21, 2013, 01:17:46 AM
5.

Also, Enerin really reminds me of Eirin.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 21, 2013, 02:21:32 AM
2  Chaos bad.  Purge the heretic wherever it may be found.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on April 21, 2013, 03:27:40 AM
He looks like a jolly fellow, I don't see what you're all afraid of. (4)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 21, 2013, 04:32:41 AM
"Storm Bull is brother to Orlanth. He is the bad wind. He is the smiter of Chaos, and the breaker of furniture."

I've got no words for this.


He looks like a jolly fellow, I don't see what you're all afraid of. (4)

I'mma go with the Shim here. 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 21, 2013, 05:28:09 AM
Can I just say that I love Mosdorl more and more with every sentence he says

If we choose 2, what will happen to the warrior? Will he stay with us automatically or will we choose later if he'll stay or leave?

Regardless, I'll go with 2.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 21, 2013, 05:40:00 AM
If we choose 2, what will happen to the warrior? Will he stay with us automatically or will we choose later if he'll stay or leave?

... come to mention it I've never actually paid attention to my weaponthane count around this event, but I'm like 99.9% certain he doesn't stay for any length of time, just an event handwave.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 21, 2013, 06:36:35 AM
I'd rather not get any unpleasant surprises, option 2 sounds good. Also keep the guy away from furniture I guess.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 21, 2013, 11:31:01 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20008/kodp008-01_zpsab63af63.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20008/kodp008-02_zps0e1bb92a.png:original)
I take this chance to stick all our weaponthanes back on patrol, and the Uroxi is pleased.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20008/kodp008-03_zpse3f6c289.png:original)
Then I send Orlgard exploring our own tula.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20008/kodp008-04_zps0a8f96e8.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20008/kodp008-05_zpsc897604f.png:original)
Unlike Kulbrast, Orlgard has a Combat stat worth speaking of.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20008/kodp008-06_zpsffc964df.png:original)
Your explorers find an old series of sacred stones in a forest clearing while exploring your tula. Your magicians say that the stones are probably inhabited by sleeping spirits.

1. Brag to other clans about this find.
2. Conduct a divination.
3. Dig up stones.
4. Find shamans to awaken the spirits of the stones.
5. Shrug and go about your business.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) This area was last inhabited by other dragonfriends. Spirits in the stones might be friendly. (2, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) I have heard Orlanth speak in the Sacred Time and understand how to impress our neighbors with glorious words. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) We should not do anything without knowing more about the spirits sleeping in the stones. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) The shamans will want a gift of ten cows to awaken the stone spirits. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Almost anything that is holy has its own spirit. Not all spirits are friendly.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) I can find us some shamans. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Dig those rocks! (3)

And our exploration pops an event! (Which means next update will probably end up consisting entirely of the results of this event and then another event happening right away, heh.) Divination, should we choose to do so, will cost a magic but stuff like this is one of the many reasons to keep some spare magic around!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 22, 2013, 01:10:59 AM
2, 4.  No use hording too much magic.  Might as well fire away.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 22, 2013, 01:32:48 AM
2 and 4, yes
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on April 22, 2013, 02:45:19 AM
Dig those rocks! (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on April 22, 2013, 05:01:56 AM
2 or 4. Whichever wins.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 22, 2013, 05:11:03 AM
2, 4 sounds good here, yes. LET'S AWAKEN THE SPIRITS OF DESTRUCTION AND REVENGE :D
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 22, 2013, 05:24:33 AM
I am sorely tempted to see what happens if you dig up the rocks, heat them, and throw them in the soup to boil it.

Buuut...

2, 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 22, 2013, 06:04:48 AM
Y'all seem so certain that the divination is going to reveal that awakening the spirits is a good plan...

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20008/kodp0085-01_zps5d5f532d.png:original)

(This mini-update means yes I've done the divination, no you can't take that back even though I have a save state, but yes you may re-vote as to further course of action. Though it's not like I mind if you change your vote partway through the day in the first place even normally.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 22, 2013, 06:06:33 AM
BERSERKER MOORDOR CARES NOT FOR CAUTION 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 22, 2013, 06:07:33 AM
While I would surely love to summon the spirits of death and destruction to our world, let's be cautious...
NAAAAAH, LET'S DIG THOSE STONES :D
3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 22, 2013, 06:08:30 AM
Bah. Go dig'em up and use'em to heat soup then!

3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on April 22, 2013, 06:10:18 AM
1., hey other clans, we found these cool rocks. Yeah we'll trade them to you.

*Suckers*
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 22, 2013, 10:42:55 AM
I retain my vote.
I mean we were good buddies with the dragons! The spirits should give us something good because of that right?
...
......right?
.........guys?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on April 22, 2013, 09:48:44 PM
Yeah! We should keep our Dragon affection points up!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 23, 2013, 12:29:01 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20009/kodp009-01_zps268c95c0.png:original)
LOOK AT THAT MAGIC. LOOK AT IT. I told you so. I hate you all (I am not going to make a habit of telling you so. That's like the exact opposite of the spirit of the LP. But just this once. =P) Waking up the spirits when they're hostile is not any better. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20009/kodp009-02_zpsb59cbd11.png:original)
*ding* farmers are done!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20009/kodp009-03_zpsd29e6c47.png:original)
I promise I'll raid next month. Even if you guys hadn't voted for me to. But first RECRUIT ALL THE WEAPONTHANES. ALL OF THEM. (Apparently this update is very shouty.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20009/kodp009-04_zpsb59ff6c5.png:original)
Carls of your clan are excited to see a rainbow touch down in one of your fields. As Orlanthi, you are Storm People, and there are few omens as positive as a rainbow, the beautiful gift left by the gods in the wake of a storm.  It meant we were due for a time of good luck.

1. Do nothing.
2. Embark on a raid.
3. Pursue trade opportunities.
4. Make friends with another clan.
5. Thank the gods with a sacrifice.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Others who hear about this rainbow will want to be our friends. We should court the favor of the Antorling clan, who are on the verge of a feud with us. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) Now that we are lucky, it is time to strike! The Elkenval clan is weak, and we can easily beat them. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) The appearance of the rainbow strengthens our clan magic. If we do nothing, we will keep its blessing for a time when we really need it. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) The clever trader knows when to seize on good luck, and turn it into silver and cows. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) The year after the death of Errarth, the tragic king, a rainbow kissed the spot where he breathed hs last.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) We have been blessed. It would be rude to turn our blessing into someone else's defeat. (3, 4, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Now that we are lucky, it is time to strike! The Blue Jay clan is fat and complacent, and deserves to taste the fury of our blades. (2)

OK or maybe we'll recruit weaponthanes and get a free raid this month anyway? Or something else. At least we made some of that magic back.

If y'all do want to raid, my own personal choice of target would agree with Orlgard's (though because they're our neighboring feud, not because they're weak), but I'll gladly entertain any other suggestions for target. (And if you want to make friends with someone, please say who or else I'll just look at the map and pick an arbitrary pink.)

I wonder if maybe this event is heavily weighted to come up after a massive magic tank, 'cause I've seen this exact chain of events before (http://lparchive.org/King-of-Dragon-Pass-%28by-Haifisch%29/Update%2045/)... (And hey I guess have some free bonus advice from the Stormrider clan ring too.)
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 23, 2013, 12:32:22 AM
2 LET US DIG UP THEIR MAGIC STONES INSTEAD, AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT!
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Post by: Iced Fairy on April 23, 2013, 12:33:24 AM
5  Maybe if we kill some cows we can use this to get positive magic again!

Then we can go kill some dudes for their stuff with the magic.
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Post by: theshirn on April 23, 2013, 12:39:05 AM
Now that we are lucky, it is time to strike! The Blue Jay clan is fat and complacent, and deserves to taste the fury of our blades. (2)
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Post by: Hello Purvis on April 23, 2013, 12:44:04 AM
WE NEED MORE FARMS!



It's time to make them other losers respekt our fortune. #4.
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Post by: Keegster2 on April 23, 2013, 12:47:03 AM
2. Rainbows are deadly in all the videogames I'VE played. (Example: Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Team Fortress 2.)

Of course, we could always go with 4.
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Post by: Von Stein on April 23, 2013, 02:39:18 AM
Personally I think we should make friends with another clan.  4

By which I mean find five folks in our clan we want to get rid off and send them on a mission of good will to whatever clan hates our guts the most.

If they survive the trip and make us a new ally... great.

If they die horribly and we get their heads send to us on a silver platter... even better, let's poip those onto the stones as a sacrifice, then the bloodthirsty spirits might actually start liking us.

And if they just plain die, well, still good, at least that creepy neighbour of mine will be dead, not staring at me constantly while I am busy doing... private things.
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Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 23, 2013, 05:35:42 AM
Making some more friends sounds good indeed, so option 4
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Post by: Sagus on April 23, 2013, 07:19:57 PM
Nah, screw friends, it's easier to kill people and take their stuff. Voting 2.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 24, 2013, 12:01:11 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp010-01_zpseb5b877d.png:original)
Let's go beat up the Elkenvali and steal their stuff!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp010-02_zps97a4d2ae.png:original)
Our farmers also come raiding, which is why it's kind of a bad idea to do it during Sea or Earth season. Weaponthanes are still awesome though because they fight as well as 5 regular dudes. (Hunters get lumped in with the regular guys, but they do count as better, I don't know the exact ratio> Hunters also bring in 2 food per hunter per year, and make trade goods out of the skins and such. They're nice enough that I don't crank them down to 0 all the time like a lot of people do, though I don't go out of my way to improve them either.) Auxiliaries are women (and probably some Chalana Arroy-worshipping dudes like if Harsaltar were a faceless cog in the machine instead of a noble) that come along as medics and such.

You don't want to bring absolutely all your guys because if you do everyone will cattle raid you while you're unguarded. =P

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp010-03_zpsc3304554.png:original)
And here is the main screen of our raid. We even made it past their patrols, so we've got a huuuuuuuuuge numbers advantage!

If we spend more magic than our enemies on the raid, it'll give us an advantage in terms of the odds of victory and in terms of how many casualties we give and receive. We can't spend any now, but we spent two magic in War at Sacred Time, so that's two magic here! I think I've seen that people have figured out that the AI basically never spends more than two.

We don't have any combat treasures. :( A lot of the really good ones are passive anyway so we wouldn't need to select them for use in battle, but there's a few notable activated ones.

Sacrificing gives you bonus to the behind-the-scenes RNG in various parts of the battle. (Sacrificing to Humakt also makes the enemy auxiliaries less effective.) This takes time though, and if you make both sacrifices the time adds together.

Objectives are all pretty self-explanatory... except for the part where sometimes the algorithms for who's your neighbor and who's not disagree with the ones for who borders you for you to seize their land, so maaaan we can't even absorb their land if we beat them up hard enough for long enough that they move. Burning and killing are both considered kinda needlessly cruel though, people won't like you much if you do 'em too much. The vast majority of the time you're just going to be plundering, everything else barring sheer survival (which is mostly just for when you're massively outnumbered) is harder to win at anyway.

Tactics affect how your clan approaches the battle. Skirmishing deals out somewhat more wounds, and your hunters are better at it (and it does have probably the most ways to boost it), and evasion is pretty obvious (oh crap we're screwed, Survival + Evade), but usually you're probably going to be charging or maneuvering depending on whether you're on offense or defense. Charging will interrupt enemy sacrifices if they're still sacrificing when you charge (i.e. if you sacrificed fewer times than they did - and the AI sacrifices a lot of the time!), and maneuvering gets a bonus when you're on your own land.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp010-04_zpsac18d569.png:original)
Most battles you'll get a random noble popping a mini-event like when you're exploring and there's bandits, but we didn't get one this time. And check it out, that guy we took in is earning his keep! ...plus hey wait we killed or injured every single guy we fought. Yeah, even plundering can yield pretty high casualties (on one or both sides - and it is possible to take more damage and still win the battle, or vice-versa).

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp010-05_zps5390ec0c.png:original)
... I know that was rainbow-enhanced, but holy fuck you guys that was the best first raid I've ever seen.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp010-06_zpsd9587438.png:original)
So let's do it again!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp010-07_zpsf06d361d.png:original)
And slip past their patrols again!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp010-08_zps49835e0a.png:original)
We didn't murder the hell out of everyone this time but we still won pretty solidly. Another fight without a mini-event too? Oh well. You'll see one eventually, I promise.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp010-09_zps6d36b0cb.png:original)
Your carls find the body of one of your warriors face-down in a creek deep within your tula. It is Orlkensor, who you adopted after he was outlawed by the Six Brothers. He was savagely beaten, and his skull is crushed. His sword lies by his side, and it is clean of blood.

1. Declare a time of mourning.
2. Perform a divination.
3. Sacrifice to the gods in Orlkensor's memory.
4. Seek his killer in another clan.
5. Seek his killer within the clan.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) The most obvious suspect is the Uroxi warrior who Orlkensor refused to duel. The Uroxi's garb marked him as a member of the Six Brothers. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) When Tragic King Errarth was found beaten to death, everyone suspected kinslaying, though nothing was proven. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) The most obvious suspect is the Uroxi warrior who Orlkensor refused to duel. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Our magic is weak. We cannot rely on the signs the spirits give us. (And yet he recommends 2 anyway.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) We should speed his spirit to the halls of the dead. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Someone here did it. I can smell guilt in the air. (5)

:(
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Post by: Iced Fairy on April 24, 2013, 12:12:29 AM
It's probably the Six Brothers guy, but we owe them a favor. :/  Wonderful.

I'm not opposed to wandering over and stabbing the dude, but we need more friends so my vote is 3.  Make him a nice happy ancestor or something.


Edit - In more general ideas, we just spanked the Elkenval hard.  How much of a beating can rival clans take before they get squashed?  Because if we're close to that I'm thinking next fire season we might want to just finish the job.
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Post by: Von Stein on April 24, 2013, 12:21:36 AM
 8) Clearly we must go and wreak bloody vengeance for our fallen brother! I suggest we form a team of sleuths, three should do, and send them on an epic, universe sundering quest to find out whodunnit and moider the bastich!

 :objection!: But Stein, there is no Sleuth mechanic in this game, and wanton references won't do you no good!

 8) Blasted be ye, there is no Phoenix Wrighting to be done here either, and I stand by my position, we must get to the bottom of this!

 :objection!: While I do agree there, it must be done with patience. We shall let the system work for us, only bending it so far as to eventually get the true culprit below branch and gallow!

 8) No time! He is dead now, and hi spirit demands vengeance!

 :munch: While my brain tears itself apart I vote for three. Sacrifice cows, and have a feast for him. He fought well, and brought us much glory in the little time he was here. 3




 :flamingv: Vengeance will be ours soon enough...
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 24, 2013, 12:33:54 AM
It's probably the Six Brothers guy, but we owe them a favor. :/  Wonderful.

I'm not opposed to wandering over and stabbing the dude, but we need more friends so my vote is 3.  Make him a nice happy ancestor or something.


Edit - In more general ideas, we just spanked the Elkenval hard.  How much of a beating can rival clans take before they get squashed?  Because if we're close to that I'm thinking next fire season we might want to just finish the job.

Hey, owing them a favor and telling them to pay us back for their dude murdering ours are totally unrelated. The Oralnthi even have a system of wergild (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wergild)!

And beating a clan up so hard they move takes a fair bit of pounding on them first. They'll probably come begging us for peace several times before that, so we've got a ways to go yet. I'm totally fine with swinging by once a Fire anyway though. :3
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Post by: Sagus on April 24, 2013, 12:50:25 AM
Orlkensor noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(

Voting 4, we must find this killer.
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 24, 2013, 03:07:51 AM
It's totes that Uroxi bastard! 4
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Post by: Keegster2 on April 24, 2013, 03:20:52 AM
4. We must find the killer or die!
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Post by: theshirn on April 24, 2013, 03:24:16 AM
Someone here did it. I can smell guilt in the air. (5)
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Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 24, 2013, 05:41:02 AM
Let's assume it was the obvious suspect. 4
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Post by: Mr_Bob on April 24, 2013, 08:35:16 AM
If the dude's sword was blood-free, it was probably that guy whom Orlk has sworn not to harm.  OR A TRUSTED FRIEND! ET TU DOROSA?
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 24, 2013, 11:30:45 PM
Mini-update! If the votes seem to be overwhelmingly in favor of one option by late-night my time I'll just cut it short and move on in the interest of expediency, otherwise I'll keep it going for a full voting period.

(Choosing to seek the killer in another clan starts with a prompt for which clan, but we all know damn well it's the Six Brothers,)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp0105-01_zpseb524e1e.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20010/kodp105-02_zpsc1c8edec.png:original)
I did figure we'd want to insist he apologize, but I'm less comfortable using my own judgement for whether we choose to challenge him or not, so have at it. (I do have a backup of the VM save state in case I was wrong in judging that you all would want an apology, too)
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Post by: Hello Purvis on April 24, 2013, 11:41:16 PM
The ancestors says: Vingulf needs a duelin'.

THEY ALSO SAY TO BUILD MORE FARMS BEFORE WE STARVE OR THE GODS STARVE.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 24, 2013, 11:43:14 PM
Purvis we had so many farms I had to hire more dudes just to use all my farms. :V
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 25, 2013, 02:50:29 AM
It's duelling time 1
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Post by: Von Stein on April 25, 2013, 02:53:31 AM
Arashi: I believe what Purvis is trying to say is "buy all the farm land forever" That or he has a hankering for more Lebensraum, but let's not go invoking Godwin's further. :V

As for the situation at hand... hey he seemed like a nice guy, if your wife liked him better, than nuts to you, it's a free country!

1

We get to keep the money though, right? *shot*
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Post by: Keegster2 on April 25, 2013, 03:05:31 AM
1. FOR ORLKENSOR!
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Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 25, 2013, 04:33:13 AM
Let's make that guy's wife a widow! 1
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Post by: Sagus on April 25, 2013, 05:09:59 AM
Murder is always the best solution! 1
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 25, 2013, 05:26:25 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20011/kodp011-01_zpsb8eac1ed.png:original)
Might as well have our best fighter do it, absolute worst case he dies and I slap the Uroxi on the ring.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20011/kodp011-02_zps7c043f7d.png:original)
We didn't really get satisfaction, but we still have the silver and Orlgard's not even wounded thanks to the healer. Could be worse.

While "found murdered face-down in your tula" is arguably the worst ending to the Orlkensor event chain, none of the endings is happy by any stretch of the imagination. I've never even seen the closest you can get to a good ending in my own playthroughs since it's pretty much a coin flip on the duel.

Spoilers for "good" ending:
He's not actually wooing Vingulf's wife, they're just childhood best friends trying to hang out like best friends do. In the best ending, Orlkensor does win the duel but leaves after, the wife comes by asking about him and if you point her after him, someone later finds them frozen to death together in the mountains.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20011/kodp011-03_zps907bb161.png:original)
After that's all done with, I ship our best non-ring fighter off to explore the mountain that is Orlanth's mom. No really.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20011/kodp011-04_zps79ba5cae.png:original)
A scouting party discovers a rich farmland not far from your stead. It is inhabited by strange beast folk who behave sort of like normal Orlanthi and call themselves the Thunder Ducks. For once, both warriors and carls agree: it would be a fine thing to drive these small, inhuman creatures from this fertile valley and claim it as your own.

1. Approach the ducks and offer them a peace pact.
2. "Each year, you must give us enough food to feed 50 of our people."
3. "Each year, you must give us enough food to feed 150 of our people."
4. Demand that the ducks cede you half their lands.
5. Launch a surprise attack against the puny ducks.
(p.s. it's Earth season you dolts.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) The ducks appear to practice a corrupted version of Orlanthi ways. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) The ducks know their home terrain. Many a brave man has been humiliated because he underestimated a foe. (1, 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Let's not be too bold. You never know what strange magic members of the Elder Races might wield. (1, 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Demand tribute, but not so much that they feel resistance is the only option. It is better to gain something for no effort than everything at too high a price. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) We shouldn't neglect our own land by raiding during harvest time, no matter how tempting this new land seems. (2, 3, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)  It is ot as if we will lose the respect of our allies if we displace these creatures. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Carls and fighters agree on something for once, and we're thinking of denying them? If we don't attack the ducks, we'll be deafened by grumbling. (5)

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Also, with the most badass clan name I've ever seen it generate the ducks. I approve so hard.
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 25, 2013, 05:56:51 AM
Earth season? SOUNDS LIKE ASS KICKING SEASON 5
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Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 25, 2013, 06:01:17 AM
duckbros~ (1)
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Post by: Iced Fairy on April 25, 2013, 06:02:10 AM
Given all our neighbors are jerks we need ONE group of people on our side.  I say 1.  Maybe they can hook us up with Scrooge while they're at it.
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Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 25, 2013, 06:03:34 AM
If we slay them now, we have duck meat for a year. If we make peace and make them multiply, we may have duck meat forever! 1
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Post by: Von Stein on April 25, 2013, 06:06:54 AM
I'm sorry... but I can't vote trickster on this...

Thunder... Thunder... Thunder... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnhrz5nDDa4) Duck Tales! Whoohoo! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJrjb91pW4)

I vote 1 because I know what ducks gone bad can do.

I know what ducks gone bad can do... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVFZT-WNu0A)
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Post by: Amraphenson on April 25, 2013, 06:15:30 AM
I hope they're the intense fear that oscillates their main tool for flight during the latter hours of the day. (1)
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Post by: Sagus on April 25, 2013, 06:49:36 AM
Ducks will make good allies, I have no doubts about that. 1
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Post by: Garlyle on April 25, 2013, 07:08:22 AM
Joining the duckbro wagon
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Post by: theshirn on April 25, 2013, 01:20:14 PM
Carls and fighters agree on something for once, and we're thinking of denying them? If we don't attack the ducks, we'll be deafened by grumbling. (5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 25, 2013, 08:31:06 PM
THESE DUCKS HONOR OUR ANCESTORS. FELLOWSHIP IS THE ONLY CHOICE.

AND YOU NOTE THEY ARE HEEDING THE WORDS OF OUR ANCESTORS AND ARE BUILDING MORE FARMS.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on April 25, 2013, 11:05:14 PM
1. DUCKS ARE FRIEND.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 25, 2013, 11:39:27 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20012/kodp012-01_zpse610a4ad.png:original)
Duckbros! \o/

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20012/kodp012-02_zps86e6a1ed.png:original)
The ducks are our neighbors (oops I have to screenshot their blurb sometime when I'm not save stated mid-event), and their swamp kin are waaaaaaaaay off to the southwest so we can't see them here.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20012/kodp012-03_zpsc5ef2f35.png:original)
Ernalda is being stingy.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20012/kodp012-04_zpscd1c7d56.png:original)
A family of travelers petitions you, seeking membership in your clan. The father, Korol, speaks on behalf of the others. His family made the dangerous trek from Esrolia, in search of freedom and prosperity. So far, they have found only misery. Korol promises hard work and loyalty in return for your generosity.

1. Accept them as cottars.
2. Assign them fine land and a starter herd.
3. Assign them some land.
4. Force them to be thralls.
5. Offer to introduce them to the chieftain of the Taralings instead.
6. Refuse them.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) If we wish to help them without offending our long-suffering carls, we can make them cottars. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) Back in the Darkness, the ragged remnants of the Nalda Bin came to our ancestors, who adopted them into the clan. (1, 2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Good things come to those who are merciful. (1, 3, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)  We are not obligated to accept them, but we must treat them with justice while they are here. (Anything but 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) I have nothing to add. (... you're lucky you're good with plants, Enerin.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) The yare at our mercy. Take them as thralls, and force them to serve us. (4)

Damnit Mosdorl. I promise tricksters have their uses other than just sitting there being contrary though. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on April 26, 2013, 12:16:58 AM
1. We should help anyone in need!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on April 26, 2013, 12:38:27 AM
Important: what's a cottar?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 26, 2013, 01:53:01 AM
Important: what's a cottar?

They don't own land so they tend the land owned by the carls (I mean, the carls work the farms too though) and raise the sheep and pigs and not-as-important-as-cows. Basically they're low rung on the totem pole unless y'all decide I'm suddenly going against our ancestors and taking thralls (which I will if you want!) but they're still generally treated alright.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 26, 2013, 01:55:16 AM
1. Taking thralls would be just assholish, unlike raiding potential friendly clans during Earth season =D
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 26, 2013, 02:05:51 AM
*sniffs the air* I sense another event chain of horribleness.

Boil them before regrettable loss will come our way again! And then boil whoever's wife they were wooing! And their original clan! And us! And the ducks! And the dragons! And those stones earlier! And Mosdorl!

6
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on April 26, 2013, 02:13:23 AM
But if we boil ourselves, then we won't be able to do anything, because we would be dead. (We should boil Mosdorl, though.)

Still voting on 1.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 26, 2013, 02:41:00 AM
If we give them some land, will they occupy some of our unoccupied farms? If that's the case I vote 3, otherwise I vote 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 26, 2013, 02:45:19 AM
WE NEED MORE FARMERS AND WE NEED MORE FARMS!!!

VOTE 3!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 26, 2013, 02:59:21 AM
If we give them some land, will they occupy some of our unoccupied farms? If that's the case I vote 3, otherwise I vote 1

Despite Purvis's chants, we don't really have discrete farms; we have X amount of farmland and Y amount of pasture, which requires Z amount of guys to plant/harvest/watch our herds. This is taken care of by pretty much any adult who isn't doing anything special (weaponthane, crafter, hunter, noble).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 26, 2013, 05:04:56 AM
How could we deny someone who has bested the Moordor Trail! Check them for disentery, and if they're fine give them some land to work with. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 26, 2013, 03:47:41 PM
Despite Purvis's chants, we don't really have discrete farms; we have X amount of farmland and Y amount of pasture, which requires Z amount of guys to plant/harvest/watch our herds. This is taken care of by pretty much any adult who isn't doing anything special (weaponthane, crafter, hunter, noble).
Ohhh.

Voting 1, then.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 27, 2013, 12:30:26 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Upload%20013/kodp013-01_zps123d5fb1.png:original)
Yeah he's unhappy but no one else is. :V

Then Engarna complains about not having enough farmers again. Pretty sure you don't need to see a screenshot of it every time.

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After that, Ernalda bestows THE BEST WISDOM. But before I can build a shrine for it...

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Hendrick, a thane of the Blue Spruce clan, comes to ask you to make good on a favor you owe to his people. "We ask that you gift us with 20 cows, in return for considerations we have given you in the past, and in recognition of the goodwill between us," he says.

1. Give him less than he wants. (How much?)
2. Give him more than he wants. (How much?)
3. Give him what he wants.
4. Offer him food instead.
(How much? We're tighter on food than I'd like, but just for reference, IIRC food is worth about 4 units per cow.)
5. Refuse him.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Customarily, the obligation we owe to them is worth twenty cows. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) Their warriors are few, and ill-equipped. We should curry the favor of the strong, and forget about these weaklings. (1, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) This is a fine chance to show our wealth off. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Generosity will reap its own reward, when we find them easy to bargain with in the future. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) If they owed us a favor, we might want to ask them for cattle. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)  We can afford to give him what he wants. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Cattle are too precious to be given away, even when we owe a favor to another clan. (5)

Oh hey yet another event with this same art because it's basically the same thing. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 27, 2013, 12:35:31 AM
Well let's not be stingy here. Give him what he wants. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 27, 2013, 01:16:00 AM
2, 30 cows.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 27, 2013, 02:11:05 AM
He have an obligation, and we wish to be generous, but we also need cows for the farms the Ancestors keep telling us to build before we starve.

2. 21 Cows
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 27, 2013, 05:00:23 AM
With the number of cows we have, may as well give a little more and hope that pays off at some point.
Going with UK's 2.) 30 cows
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 27, 2013, 06:09:47 PM
They need cows? How fortunate~

Refuse the cows, and prepare to raid the shit out of them! 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 27, 2013, 11:32:15 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20014/kodp014-01_zps4506b36f.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20014/kodp014-02_zps7db7f5f0.png:original)
I averaged together the actual numbers since "give more" won, and then the carls complained because the carls complain about everything ever I swear to god.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20014/kodp014-03_zpsf5d4da46.png:original)
After the event I build that Ernalda shrine like I was going to before the event popped.

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And then our exploration party to Kero Fin comes back. I left the entire screen here so you can see 1) the shrine to Ernalda defaulted to exactly what I wanted it to, and 2) this exploration result cost us two more fucking magic. >=|

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20014/kodp014-05_zpse0f1e976.png:original)
Sacrificing to Barntar next gives us... exactly the wrong ritual. Plowsong is pretty fantastic (lets our oxen plow more cropland), but I wanted Vigor (which does basically the same thing for our farmers).

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Finally, this Storm season, the defensive raids start happening. (Note that raids are an expected deal among Orlanthi, and while no the Zethnorings don't like us very much, it's not automatically a cause for "fuck those guys". I do want to work on relations some once we've got the crop-making ridiculousness underway, but in the absence of any particular opinion from you guys I'd actually like to keep these guys fairly unhappy for in case the Elkenvali are ever unavailable. :V)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20014/kodp014-07_zps89766b1b.png:original)
And another victory, though less soundly than our raids this Fire season went.

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p.s. Barntar is a jerk.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20014/kodp014-09_zps43820745.png:original)
Oh hey look it's our punching bags.

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And finally, a raid mini-event! Eventually Iskalli will probably be ridiculous enough to take insane risks, but fighting bravely is a pretty good default for anyone remotely competent in combat.

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Nooooooooooooo my weaponthanes. Whatever, we can hire more later.

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And then it's Sacred Time! We're doing pretty well for the first few years, though the fact that most of the sacrifices I've been making so far has been to gods that want goods rather than cattle doesn't hurt.

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And thus the annual question: is there anything particular you'd like me to do this year? (But not more farms Purvis we have plenty of farms we just need to make the farms we have sufficiently awesome.) I took a screenshot with roughly the magic distribution I'd like to make in the absence of any specific requests - I'll probably take this year pretty similar to last in that case. The only thing I'd really like to do that I don't feel comfortable with yet is showing off a heroquest, since the only one we know yet is one of the more dangerous ones.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 28, 2013, 05:39:10 AM
Personally, I feel it is time to start the inevitable arms race for Imperialism. We must discover the power of the atom, harness it, and burn the world in lovely nuclear fire, while serving the still living brains of our foes chilled with a slice of lemon, and walnuts. Moordor shall ruminate the remainders of the world mercilessly, reducing all opposition to either glass or a very fine, easily digestable paste. One does not simply meander into Moorder! Our ancestors will be granted sacrifices of blood from the very earth itself, as we render asunder the dreams of the sleepers! Break reality! Break your enemies! Break out more farms!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 28, 2013, 05:59:07 AM
Hm...  There any use to setting up a better marketplace or should we get more trade goods before then?  And yeah apparently our ancestors want blood so we should give them some.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 28, 2013, 06:56:00 AM
Hm...  There any use to setting up a better marketplace or should we get more trade goods before then?  And yeah apparently our ancestors want blood so we should give them some.

Well, better market mostly just means MOAR GOODS. Which is, of course, useful. We may want to get a bit more first to gift people to make them like us first? Help out with the trade route negotiation. But we've got enough of a base we probably could start on that.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 28, 2013, 10:38:42 PM
THE ANCESTORS DEMAND MORE FARMS. WE ARE GOING TO FUCKING STARVE.

Also, it may not be a bad idea to work on trade goods and trade routes. Money is power.


And, Man, we fucked up that first raid pretty bad even though they slipped our defenses.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 28, 2013, 11:33:39 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20015/kodp015-01_zps5a6cef12.png:original)
I shift one point from Herds (I normally only have one available slot there anyway!) and the point from Mysteries from my tentative setup to one each in Diplomacy and Trade in the name of helping get some routes set up.

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Then I ship some gifts to the Narri to soften them up for bargaining. (I was gonna do the Six Brothers but oh wait they're one of the routes we started with. Might send them some shinies just for relations' sake later on anyway.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20015/kodp015-03_zps30179928.png:original)
\o/

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And then I head straight back out to try to snag a route. Our guy will do a little bit of trading while he's there even if we don't succeed at setting up a constant route from it. Before he returns, however...

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Cultists of Uralda, mother of cows, come to you and offer to perform a ritual to honor their goddess. The ritual will make your cows healthier and more fertile. Although they do so to honor Uralda, it is also clear that they want you to offer something in exchange for their ritual services.

1. Accept their offer; tell them you owe them a favor.
2. Allow them to perform the ritual, but offer them nothing.
3. Do not allow the ritual.
4. Offer them a share of your clan magic.
5. Offer them gifts.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) If we offer them nothing, they will walk away, offended.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) The carls are anxious for us to accept. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Uralda is the bountiful cow mother, who brought her four-legged people into Ernalda's stead.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Give them five cows. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) They are right to expect something in return. (1, 4, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) They have invited me to assist them. We must be gracious. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) The carls are afraid that the ritual will fail, so that our herds will be worse off than before. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 29, 2013, 02:10:28 AM
Well, we are Moordor, it would be bad if our cows were not the best. 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on April 29, 2013, 03:03:41 AM
Sartark sounds like he knows his shit. 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 29, 2013, 03:40:31 AM
5. Bribe the cow cultists =D
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on April 29, 2013, 04:19:43 AM
Pay up front.  Favors lead to danger down the road.  5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 29, 2013, 04:30:14 AM
Ah, fellow cowworshippers? Let us see if their ritual involves them turning into t-bone steaks! If not, tell them we owe them a favor, and then when they come, make them into T-Bone Steaks at that time! 1

Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 29, 2013, 07:51:39 AM
Cows for the Cow Goddess! 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 30, 2013, 12:21:15 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20016/kodp016-01_zpsc54de0ab.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20016/kodp016-02_zps99300bd4.png:original)
The going rate for cattle blessings: apparently, like half of what I'd've assumed. Thanks Sartark!

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MORE WEAPONTHANES ALWAYS MORE WEAPONTHANES.

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A small profit is apparently, like, 4 goods. Not pictured: Engarna complaining about us still not having enough farmers.

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Let's try it all over again with a different neighbor! Because the Narri inexplicably dropped from light purple to pink and I don't know why. Like, I don't even think I've ever seen failed trade route attempts do that before. (Also not pictured: the immediate "blah blah they like us more now")

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20016/kodp016-06_zpsfdb67725.png:original)
Hend and his wife Enastarra, of your clan, seek your blessing in the marriage of their daughter, Renatha, to Aslandar, son of the chieftain of the Rakstanti. Hend is pleased with the match, and with Aslandar's bride price of 15 cows' worth of goods.

1. Allow the marriage only if Aslandar comes up with additional gifts.
2. Bless the marriage.
3. Bless the marriage, and offer to pay 5 cows' worth of additional goods.
4. Disallow the marriage.
5. Suggest that Elusu would be a better match for Renatha.
(I have no idea who this is, so they're probably some interchangeable noble we have in reserve.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Assuming we can afford it, we should match the generosity of the Rakstanti, thus gaining status and respect. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) Marriage-bonds between clans build good neighbors. Good neighbors can become allies. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Good! (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Renatha is the loveliest and sweetest bride we have to offer. Surely the Rakstanti can afford a bride price more in keeping with her fine qualities. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) One marriage is worth a dozen wars. (1, 2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Our Renatha deserves a good start in her new life. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) The Rakstanti look down on us, they do. They'll turn Renatha against us. Soon she'll have forgotten the entire saga of our clan. (4, 5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on April 30, 2013, 12:31:15 AM
3[b/] BRIBE THOSE MARRIAGE CULTISTS!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 30, 2013, 12:32:21 AM
We've already forgotten, Mosdorl. Look at how few farms we have.

This said, make it a wedding to remember: 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on April 30, 2013, 01:16:22 AM
There are very few problems that bribery can't solve. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on April 30, 2013, 01:44:00 AM
What madness is this? Have those idiots forgotten the most sacred of our traditions?

We must make sure that religion and state is clearly separated. Marriage is a matter of religion, and only to be performed between a steer and a cow.

 No humans have a right to such holy rights.

Burn the heathens!

Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarbrooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil the-

... what? Oh, weddings actually are a state matter and I am just completely off my rocker?

Well then, I say let them have a feast to be remembered! Let their love blossom with the best of our wishes~<3

3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on April 30, 2013, 01:50:54 AM
I have a feeling the game's writers had a lot of fun writing up the trickster's advice :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on April 30, 2013, 02:19:09 AM
The Rakstanti look down on us, they do. They'll turn Renatha against us. Soon she'll have forgotten the entire saga of our clan. (4, 5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on April 30, 2013, 05:38:42 AM
Sure, let's give them some extra goods 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on April 30, 2013, 09:13:03 AM
3. Everyone loves bribery!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on April 30, 2013, 11:57:29 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20017/kodp017-01_zpsb56bf0d4.png~original)
Hell yeah party time.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20017/kodp017-02_zps16998dab.png~original)
Let's see if the Rakstanti want a trading route with us. Especially after that lovely wedding!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20017/kodp017-03_zpsa7ba90ab.png~original)
And then Barntar decides to be our friend.

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I guess they don't want to trade with us either. :( (We probably just need better bargainers. Dudes will improve some over time and through exercising their skills, and once I start sac'ing more for mysteries and we learn some other heroquests from it we can be a bit more proactive about it too. Sartark is better than Kulbrast, but not enough to have a higher listed rating anyway.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20017/kodp017-05_zpsfc2bd57b.png~original)
Urasandra, a trader of our clan, heard rumors of a bizarre caravan approaching from the north.  She went to see it for herself, and now reports that the rumors are true.  It is a troll caravan transporting goods south to the Shadow Plateau in the Holy Country.  The trolls use giant insects as beasts of burden; they are slow-moving and only travel at night.

1. Approach the trolls and see if they want to trade.
2. Assemble other clans for a joint raid.
3. Do nothing.
4. Offer gifts to the trolls.
5. Raid the caravan.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Trolls are inhuman, but if we wish to please them, they will probably accept gifts. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) If we bring in other clans, we are more likely to succeed, but we will get a smaller share of the loot. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) We must not rest until we have heard a troll song about our generosity. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) It is always good to trade. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Will troll-booty make up for lost crops? I think not! (1, 3, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) It is too risky. Do nothing. (3)

I'm not sure whether 2 and/or 5 launch a real raid or just have you send a few dudes and handwave; it is Earth season right now, and Enerin and Engarna's advice implies that yes, it's a proper raid.

Also OH SHIT MOSDORL HAD ADVICE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A HORRIBLE IDEA dude must not be feeling well.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 01, 2013, 12:07:43 AM
Mosdorl said something sane!  I'm voting for it.  3
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Post by: theshirn on May 01, 2013, 12:15:51 AM
I am feeling fine.

It is too risky. Do nothing. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on May 01, 2013, 12:30:11 AM
Since we're already dragonbros and duckbros, let's try being trollbros. (Humans though? Fuck them!) 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 01, 2013, 02:52:13 AM
We shall bring all non-humans under our banner. 4

Maybe they'll give us one of those adorable giant beetles  :*
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 01, 2013, 03:11:15 AM
Hrm, what wildly weird position should I take today? *rolls dice* 2

Ok then.

We must rally our human brethren in the cleansing of this land of all that stains it! Humans, humans over all! I erect my banner in the name of Mork and Bork, and call for a WAAAAAAAAAAGH! the likes of which these lands have never seen! Burn the infidel trolls to the ground and burn their families, their acquaintances, and everybody they have ever met! Purify the lands by sacred flame!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 01, 2013, 03:43:07 AM
Then caravans sure do look heavy, let's have them bring them here and then rip 'em off. 1
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Post by: Yaersulf on May 01, 2013, 05:01:18 AM
Since we're already dragonbros and duckbros, let's try being trollbros. (Humans though? Fuck them!) 4

Tsk tsk, don't feed the trolls.

You have to ignore them. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 01, 2013, 06:06:30 AM
Let's be everyone's bros! 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 01, 2013, 11:28:08 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20018/kodp018-01_zps1bf350dd.png~original)
Oh damnit I forgot to screenshot the further results of giving them gifts. Or maybe there wasn't a message? Either way I didn't notice until I was cropping later and I didn't have a backup of the savestate since I've only been doing so when I worry there's a reason I might wanna rewind. :( Pretty much giving them gifts just makes trolls like us more though. Sorry I have failed you, but at least I failed you on a fairly mundane event? :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20018/kodp018-02_zps0b70f4bd.png~original)
Anyway, after that I build a shrine to Barntar, which conveniently happens to default to Vigor. (Switching blessings on a shrine doesn't take up a month, though, so it wouldn't be a huge deal if it had defaulted to Plowsong.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20018/kodp018-03_zps6c01f7f3.png~original)
And then Maran Gor gives me the wrong blessing. :( Blast Earth is cool beans but it's more one to do later - if we sacrifice for it (it's not one that can be maintained by a shrine), it basically lets us totally fuck up another clan's farms. And yes we get to pick the target. =P I wanted Earthblood... but I kinda want to save what it does as a surprise for once we can take advantage of it. It's high-priority and going to get a shrine slapped up the second I can though. :3

... except I do also have to remember to sac to the ancestors by the end of the year to fulfill our Sacred Time omen, oops. I nearly forgot that. ^_^;

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The carl Enjossi accuses his wife Ellyr, and Dunorl, his young nephew, of adultery. This is one of the most serious crimes in Orlanthi law, and both Ellyr and Dunorl should be outlawed if you find them guilty of the offense.

1. Ask their kinfolk if they could have done it.
2. Conduct a divination.
3. Exonerate them.
4. Interrogate them.
5. Outlaw them.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Allow me to interrogate them. If they are guilty, I will ferret out their lies. If they speak truth, I shall prove them blameless. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) If we exonerate the guilty, or outlaw the innocent, our clan magic will suffer.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Errarth, the Tragic King, judged adulterers innocent. The next day, his newborn child was killed by a stray arrow.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) I am a good judge of character. I can separate gossip from truth when talking to witnesses. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Dunorl is guilty. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)  I don't think I could tell a lie from an honest profession of the truth. (1, 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) This matter is too small and too personal to yield to divination. (1, 4)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 01, 2013, 11:43:34 PM
Hrm.   I wonder if we can do 1 and 4.  Of the two 4 seems more likely to work if we've got good interrogators.  But I have no idea if that's a skill or just RNG go!
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Post by: theshirn on May 02, 2013, 12:21:27 AM
This matter is too small and too personal to yield to divination. (1, 4)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 02, 2013, 01:35:02 AM
What madness is this, Mosdorl is asking for a proper investigation?

Well, clearly I must make a stand here.

"I smell the guilt on them. Outlaw them and let their blood soil desert sand. No longer shall they walk the earth our cow mother has blessed! Let the sun eat them alive, and death sink in slowly! 5."
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 02, 2013, 01:54:10 AM
For once I agree with Mosdorl. 1 and then 4, if it's possible to use more than one option; otherwise, just 4.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 02, 2013, 02:02:54 AM
1 then 4 sounds awesome. BRIBE..er, I mean, INTERROGATE THEM!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 02, 2013, 05:31:37 AM
Gather as much information as we can so 1 and 4, if they're guilty, we shall follow the Orlanthi's laws with 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 02, 2013, 05:59:31 PM
1 and 4 is the way. Then we shall follow the law.

Mosdorl's been here before, he knows how to make this thing go properly.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 02, 2013, 11:34:09 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20019/kodp019-01_zps92f4c19f.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20019/kodp019-02_zpsaea557dc.png~original)
Oh great, the two mundane information-gathering methods don't agree. (Though, I mean, would you confess?)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20019/kodp019-03_zps74051c08.png~original)
But everyone who had an opinion that wasn't "whatever the information gathering says" (though that's a reasonable vote!) wanted to outlaw them, so GTFO you two. (Experientially, the wiki implies it is possible for them to be innocent, and I'm sure that's the case! But I've never personally seen them be anything but guilty, and I do tend to also do a divination here.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20019/kodp019-04_zps90597c95.png~original)
I'd like to try Maran Gor again, but I need to get that omen taken care of. Protection helps stave off hostile spirits. (The ancestors' version of Divination can be used to tell us what our greatest threat is or to tell us if there's stuff left on our own tula. But for now I know there's still plenty of shit on our own tula. Lhankor Mhy also has a Divination that tells us stuff about other clans but I'm not sure exactly what, for non-event-related divinations I mostly just tend to do the ancestors' every so often late game for own tula.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20019/kodp019-05_zps33310edb.png~original)
And then I toss up a stake perimeter 'cause I'd like to hold off briefly on spending more cows as long as I won't be able to get an Earthblood shrine up by year's end anyway. I'm... genuinely shocked we haven't had use for one yet.

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And there's a bandit king about. Lovely.

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And that's the end of Storm!

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Y'all know the drill.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 03, 2013, 12:30:36 AM
Can we go kill that Gardrostan dude? I think it'd be a good way to impress other clans or at least make the place safer.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 03, 2013, 12:56:00 AM
Oh hey our rep is up.

Well we can't trade for cows, so I say we loot them from dudes.  More stomping.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 03, 2013, 12:58:10 AM
We can totally trade for cows! We just don't have a lot to trade for cows yet.

And I think the most we can do to deal with bandit dude is stomp some bandits on our own turf, i.e. explore.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 03, 2013, 02:02:39 AM
Sadly i have no feeling for what to suggest to do right now, so I'll just say that you should build many many pylons and that you require more vespene gas.

Which probably translates into getting all the weaponthanes and then some, and eventually getting all the cows and then some, letting them "produce" their gas.

Also I am all for more exploration on the serious side of this post.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 03, 2013, 02:49:21 AM
We can totally trade for cows! We just don't have a lot to trade for cows yet.
I was more commenting on the portents saying trade is gonna be stingy.  Why bargain with stingy dudes when you can own face and just get cows?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 03, 2013, 03:43:07 AM
WE ONLY HAVE A SURPLUS OF 80 BUSHELS OF FOOD. THE ANCESTORS DEMAND MORE FARMS.

Also more exploring. A whole lot more.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on May 03, 2013, 03:18:29 PM
Quote
Oh hey our rep is up.

Our trollbros must have spoken well of us!

Anyway, whether it's bandits or our neighbors I agree that we should stomp some face this year. Put two ticks in war.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 03, 2013, 06:58:42 PM
Let us wage war with our stingy trade partners, and teach them that some favors come at too high a price!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 04, 2013, 12:13:12 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20020/kodp020-01_zps48f62123.png~original)
Pretty typical-looking year, albeit one with a decent magic surplus for early on.

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PURVIS ACTUALLY GETS HIS WISH HOLY CRAP (by a whole 5 units of land). Because I came in here to up the wheat for the nice harvest omen anyway. Also Orlgard aged up to his second portrait and I didn't notice until the event so I didn't get the portrait without the stats borders and you get his old one in the ring advice for now. =P

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20020/kodp020-03_zpsc07af0db.png~original)
Priestesses of Chalana Arroy from many different clans have gathered together to pay homage to their goddess. As part of their devotions, they are traveling to various tulas and offering to heal the sick and the wounded. They ask only that you promise to aid them in the future, when your help is needed. The more people they heal, the greater the favor they will ask. The people are honored by their visit.

There are 58 people sick. (And no wounded, which the game doesn't list because zero.)

1. Ask them to heal all of your sick and wounded.
2. Ask them to heal half of your sick and wounded.
3. Ask them to heal only a few people.
4. Decline their offer.
5. Decline their offer, give them gifts.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Everyone loves and respects the priestesses of Chalana Arroy; if we gift them generously, other clans will look on us with favor. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) Not all attempts to heal are successful.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Of course, we should let them heal everyone. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) In general, it is bad to promise a favor when you do not know what that favor will be. However, if you can trust anyone, is is priestesses of the Healing Goddess. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Many of the people are sick. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)  Let's not overtax them. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Did I ever tell you about what happened when Eurmal lifted Chalana Arroy's skirt to see what was underneath?

If I recall, when the favor does get cashed in, it's usually something along the lines of
one good per two people healed - a pretty tame favor
.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 04, 2013, 12:33:40 AM
HEAL EVERYONE AND BRIBE THEM WITH EVERYTHING
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 04, 2013, 12:39:49 AM
Heal everyone. Offer them farmland in turn.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 04, 2013, 03:09:35 AM
Healings for everyone! 1

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Did I ever tell you about what happened when Eurmal lifted Chalana Arroy's skirt to see what was underneath?
...I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 04, 2013, 04:38:33 AM
"Did I ever tell you about what happened when Eurmal lifted Chalana Arroy's skirt to see what was underneath?" Clearly all effort mustbe put into getting Mosdorl to regale the rest of this story.

And eh, 1.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 04, 2013, 04:46:53 AM
HEEEEEEEAAAAAAAL 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: draganuv15 on May 04, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
MEDIC (1)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 05, 2013, 12:58:56 AM
p.s. I work retail now with the attendant inconsistent hours and being physically exhausted from standing and lifting all day afterwards. It does look like I'm gonna pretty consistently be late morning/afternoon/early evening, so it shouldn't affect the update schedule too hard, but some nights might be a few hours late (just not nearly so late as to make 7 the next day an unreasonable cutoff still - like, don't even start worrying about me until like midnight without an update :V).

tl;dr tonight is one of those nights, lemme eat and get sat down for a while before I even think about anything remotely resembling effort.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 05, 2013, 01:46:54 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20021/kodp021-01_zps516a8a60.png~original)
And now maybe we even have enough dudes to work our fields now that no one has the sniffles?

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20021/kodp021-02_zpsc0cb2c90.png~original)
Huzzah! Still keeping what it does a surprise, but let's just say it's worth spending the first month of Fire putting up a shrine even though y'all wanna raid this year. I can just raid some in Storm to make up for it. But before I get a chance...

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20021/kodp021-03_zpsd8386edb.png~original)
While plowing the fields, the carls find something strange. It's the enormous skull of some kind of dragon creature.

1. Destroy it.
2. Display it in a temple or shrine.
3. Display it in the clan hall.
4. Rebury it.
5. Trade it away.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) It might be worth something as a curiosity. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard_zps5fa6e785.png:original) Let the warriors help the carls. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) I have nothing to add.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) I can probably get a good price for it. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) For some reason, this makes me think of Maran Gor, Ernalda's earth-shaking sister.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original)  Will the dragonewts be offended if we display this skull of their ancestors? (1) (If they would, probably not as offended as they'd be if we destroyed it?)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) what would Eurmal do? I mean, what would Orlanth do?

oops I forgot to get a nice cap or Orlgard's new portrait. Again.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on May 05, 2013, 03:07:48 AM
"TRICERATOPS, WHAT DO?"

lol this game

Dunno how the gods would feel about this thing, so let's use it to make our clan hall look totally rad (3).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 05, 2013, 03:42:21 AM
...
Holy guacamole, that skull *must* hang on an awesome spot. I am with Stuffs, give this Triceratops-esque skull a loving home in the clan hall! 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 05, 2013, 04:13:53 AM
Man, as far as we know dinos were dragon ancestors in this universe. Better not risk angering our dragonbros. I say we rebury it. 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 05, 2013, 04:19:39 AM
3  We like dragons, but it's not a god.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 05, 2013, 05:24:18 AM
3. What other option is there but to put it in our clan hall and pretend to everyone visiting that we slew that with our bare hands!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 05, 2013, 05:49:57 AM
5 Sell the SHIT out of it, BRIBE EVERYONE
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 05, 2013, 05:50:18 AM
3. What other option is there but to put it in our clan hall and pretend to everyone visiting that we slew that with our bare hands!

This, 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Amraphenson on May 05, 2013, 06:14:22 AM
3 do it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 05, 2013, 08:38:56 AM
Hoist it's skull. The dragons ate our kin, they can decorate our home in turn.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 05, 2013, 11:50:09 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20022/kodp022-01_zpsad30a6dd.png~original)
They totally are sacred to Maran Gor, Engarna was right! And so I'm very sad that we didn't have a Maran Gor shrine yet to put it in. (I think the second priority if you do pick temple/shrine and don't have that is Ernalda, no idea beyond that.) But our clan hall is a perfectly valid place of glory.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20022/kodp022-02_zpse28eaf2e.png~original)
And now, we have that shrine.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20022/kodp022-03_zpsd43f54d0.png~original)
While clearing some forest, your carls find an ancient cart decorated with dragon insignia. It is very old.

1. Destroy it.
2. Give it away.
3. Leave it where you found it.
4. Put it on display.
5. Trade it away.
6. Test it to see if it is magical.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) If we give it away, our relations with the recipient will improve. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We must test it to see if it is magical. (6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Put it by the temple! (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) It is good to trade. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Two hundred years ago, the empire of dragon friends was destroyed by the very dragons it courted.

Yes. Mosdorl said exactly what Iskalli said. What is this I don't even
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 05, 2013, 11:55:21 PM
This apparently isn't the year for trade so I'm thinking 2 or 4.  Maybe 2.  Get some people on our side.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 06, 2013, 12:08:05 AM
6, the only thing better than a golden dragon-cart is a magical golden dragon-cart.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 06, 2013, 02:42:42 AM
6, the only thing better than a golden dragon-cart is a magical golden dragon-cart.
Agreed. 6
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 06, 2013, 03:29:47 AM
6. If Magical, 4, if not magical, 2 BRIBE EVERYONE EVER.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 06, 2013, 05:31:59 AM
As the kitten said: 6, if magical = true then 4 else 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 06, 2013, 11:30:20 AM
Smash it.

The traitorous Prax-kissing wyrms ate our kin, now we smash up their shit. The ancestors didn't need no lizards, nor do we.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 06, 2013, 11:55:13 AM
Also, if possible I'd like to vote against 2 as well.
This is not a rare case of Mosdorl having good advice, this is a case of Mosdorl's corruption spreading.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 07, 2013, 01:29:41 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20023/kodp023-01_zpsa0dd6d2e.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20023/kodp023-02_zps4fc7ec25.png~original)
We had more people voting for "if not magic then 2" or just plain 2 than we had people anti-voting 2. :V I briefly considered giving it to our distant feud to cultivate an eventual end to that, but I decided to work on friendlier neighbors instead.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20023/kodp023-03_zps123f3507.png~original)
And now, it's RAID TIME.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20023/kodp023-04_zps1a69dad2.png~original)
... OK yeah these guys are really really weak.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20023/kodp023-05_zps6e413aa3.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20023/kodp023-06_zps1f6ed065.png~original)
Old Vandarl here only has Very Good Combat, so I don't trust him to be much of any good against flying dude on his own. Just shrugging his shoulders and beating up mooks seems effective though!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20023/kodp023-07_zps65e93c75.png~original)
... yeah.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20023/kodp023-08_zpsa5ffb598.png~original)
A member of the Elkenval ring named Lismelder Pine-Home and three bloodied weaponthanes approach the clan ring with an offer of one-time tribute. "We have had enough, says Lismelder. "Accept this tribute, and let us have peace between our clans." She has brought 25 cows, and says that is all the Elkenvali can afford to give.

1. Demand more tribute than they have offered.
2. Demand annual tribute.
3. Take the tribute... then raid them!
4. "We will raid you whenever we feel like it."
5. Accept the tribute and vow to leave them alone for a while.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) In matetrs of power, it is best to be direct. (1, 2, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) I think we can get more out of this than they're offering. Perhaps as many as 37 cows. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) We have no need to kill more Elkenvali. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) If we accept their tribute, breaking the sacred vows and attacking them in the next two years would be disasterous. (2, 4, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Has vengeance really been satisfied? (1, 2, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) We can get more healthy cows from them as tribute than from raids. (1, 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Well, you already know what I think! (3)

It is actually hilarious what chumps the Elkenvali are. I did not expect to see them come crawling to us this soon. We don't even have any combat-boosting blessings yet!

And this is why you keep more than one punching bag. (And you make your punching bags neighbors, because I forgot to mention at any time in the past, you'll typically need to pay a toll if you go through other people's land to go raiding. I don't think allies will do so, though also clans that don't like you much will often refuse outright. It's just easier to punch your neighbors.) Though even if we do pick annual, they'll usually stop paying it eventually, and then they're fair game again.

Also anyone voting for 1 or 2, please give at least a rough number you'd like to aim for. The max for both options is 40.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 07, 2013, 01:39:14 AM
2  On clarification that "peace" means just we stop kicking their asses, I say they deliver 25 cows a year.  Admittedly it's less then we make curbstomping them, but at least we don't have to waste an action.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 07, 2013, 01:40:53 AM
30 cows every year soundes good. For now. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 07, 2013, 01:45:27 AM
Do we have other potential raiding targets for if we decide to let them restock on cows for us to steal make peace with them for a time?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 07, 2013, 01:48:14 AM
2  On clarification that "peace" means just we stop kicking their asses, I say they deliver 25 cows a year.  Admittedly it's less then we make curbstomping them, but at least we don't have to waste an action.

Yep, Iced just asked over in IRC so I'll clarify here, it's pretty much "they pay us, we temporarily don't beat them up" for a period of 2 years on a one-time payment or as long as they keep paying on annual.

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Do we have other potential raiding targets for if we decide to let them restock on cows for us to steal make peace with them for a time?
Yeah we don't have any other neighbors that are to the point of feuds but honestly you can beat up anyone besides outright allies (of which we only have the Blue Spruce). We've got a few neighbors at pink (the step above feud), and while I'd like to make nice with some of them at some point we're still ripe on potential raid targets. Though maybe not as much of pushovers as the Elkenvali are. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on May 07, 2013, 01:55:58 AM
25 cows a year, since that's what we got from raiding them anyway. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on May 07, 2013, 01:59:02 AM
Well, you already know what I think! (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 07, 2013, 02:04:50 AM
Okay then,

2, 40 cows a year. I want them to fail to make a payment as soon as possible, so that they can't help but blame themselves when we come down upon them with righteous fury >:D
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 07, 2013, 02:28:00 AM
Iskali: "In matters of power, it is best to be direct." 3

Don't beat around the bush. Take their stuff. Then take their stuff.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 07, 2013, 04:46:41 AM
Annual tribute of at least 25 cows. If they want to assuage our wrath, they gotta pay.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 07, 2013, 05:08:59 AM
2 Make them BRIBE US :O (25 cows/year)
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Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 07, 2013, 06:00:32 AM
Bandwagon: 2: 25 cows/year
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 07, 2013, 11:47:44 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20024/kodp024-01_zpsd4522620.png~original)
Oh man they actually took the deal. Free cows!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20024/kodp024-02_zpsb5ab56f2.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20024/kodp024-03_zps990aca96.png~original)
... of course when I went out exploring I found the damn wizard bandits. Instead of pushover bandits.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20024/kodp024-04_zpsafb4381e.png~original)
A woman from the Greenwing clan comes to sell us some thralls. The thralls have glassy-eyed expressions, seem underfed, and say nothing. She wants six cows for each thrall, and has five of them to sell.

1. "Maybe some other time."
2. Take some or all of them at the price she asks.
3. Try to bargain her price down.
4. "We are opposed to the taking of thralls."
5. "We would take them, if they looked healthier."


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Our ancestors opposed the taking of thralls. We could purchase some and free them, I suppose. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) The Greenwings are not our friends.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) She is a shaman of some kind.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) I heard a Greenwing trader went berserk when asked to decrease her prices; she cursed her trading partners with bad magic. (Anything but 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Those thralls don't look very healthy. Putting them to work in the fields would kill them. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Those thralls don't look very healthy. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) I think they have rickets. (5)

Damnit ring why is Iskalli the only one who remembers our ancestors. Besides the part where he's our lawspeaker on top of being our chief.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on May 07, 2013, 11:52:16 PM
I think they have rickets. (5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 07, 2013, 11:57:33 PM
Can we kill her?

Edit : Curses, they're on the other side of the Six Brothers.  Well we can still face stomp them later I suppose.

2 Let our people go.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 08, 2013, 02:23:40 AM
Buy them, then free them. Hopefully they're not enemy spies. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 08, 2013, 02:31:09 AM
Six cows for each thrall? Are ye bloomin' kiddin' me? I could finds me more meat and bones and working power on each individual cow than these sorry sacks o' meat combined! If ye wants me to take them piles o' bones of yer hands yer gonna have to make me a better deal than that. How about you give me 6 cows instead for each one, maybe than the trade'll be fair! 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 08, 2013, 02:47:06 AM
Can we actually legit free them without disappointing our ancestors? If so, 2, we've got spare cows.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 08, 2013, 03:41:23 AM
4, we'll have none of that thrall business round these here parts!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 08, 2013, 05:16:29 AM
Our ancestors should be fine with taking thralls just to free them, right? 2 We're just too nice.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 08, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
3.

If she tries to be nasty about it, we start making and calling in favors among their neighbors.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 09, 2013, 01:13:14 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20025/kodp025-01_zps7534de7e.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20025/kodp025-02_zps9185e068.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20025/kodp025-03_zps4c28a3e4.png~original)
I'm including the entire screen in that last one so you can see that freeing these guys gave us three magic holy crap.

Also, apparently no one noticed the crayfish on her shoulder?

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20025/kodp025-04_zps51395362.png~original)
Anyway, time to send our best non-wounded non-ring explorer out to stomp bandits. Maybe he won't fail. (It's not a huge deal if ring members get wounded but absent or wounded ring members can't give advice.)

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Well, it's not bandit murder, but more crafting materials yesplz.

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Oh hi there, about time y'all showed up.

... OK guys. See what options I've chosen for this battle? Look carefully. This is the glory of Earthblood - blood being spilled on our tula enhances the growth of our crops. It's still not a good idea to go all murderface on other Orlanthi too often - it's a bit rude, and everyone will notice that - but these guys aren't Orlanthi, fuck 'em.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20025/kodp025-07_zpsf80fbb90.png~original)
... ow.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20025/kodp025-08_zpsee8b511e.png~original)
Starting to sac for some war-related blessings now that it's Dark season (besides Earthblood, that's more of a crop blessing, just one you fuel with war). Got Oath (seals bonds between clans) instead. It's OK once we're more heavily politicking.

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Oh fuck you, they raided us during Earth, the hell was I supposed to do?

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Frithorf, a thane of the Blue Spruce clan, comes to ask you if you know the details of the "Orlanth the Justice-Bringer" story, and if you will share them with his clan. "We wish to improve our ability to move in the realm of the gods," he says. He reminds you that you owe his clan a favor.

1. Just make up the details.
2. Offer him details of another story instead.
3. Tell him what he wants to know.
4. "We don't know these details."
5. "We know, but we're not going to tell you."


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We owe them a favor, but need not grant them exactly the favor they request. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) If we teach them secrets, they will prosper in the realm of the gods, and may bring back powerful weapons. Make sure they are our allies, and will not use these weapons against us.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) I don't know what happens when you tell lies about the gods, but I bet it isn't good. (Anything but 1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) It costs us nothing to tell a sacred secret. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Mythic secrets of the gods bring blessings to those who know them.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Better to tell them stories than to have to give them cows. (1, 2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) First, tell them that they must roll in cow-dung before we can let them in on the secret. Then, when they do this, refuse them. (5)

I've been slacking hardcore on getting the myths stuff up since I have to stitch a lot of shots together, but we do know the details of this particular story - it's one we can't heroquest and thus started with automatically.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 09, 2013, 01:39:26 AM
2 sounds good...wait, do we actually have another story?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 09, 2013, 01:42:38 AM
2 sounds good...wait, do we actually have another story?

We have a whole mess of other basic bullshit like the one he's asking for and one we can actually heroquest.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 09, 2013, 01:52:56 AM
Eh, don't see why we shouldn't tell them the details they want. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on May 09, 2013, 02:54:37 AM
First, tell them that they must roll in cow-dung before we can let them in on the secret. Then, when they do this, refuse them. (5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on May 09, 2013, 03:14:15 AM
Engarna's got the right idea, better to share info than pay material goods. Blue Spruce are our allies and we can't do anything with the quest ourselves, there's really no reason not to tell them. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 09, 2013, 03:59:55 AM
We value our allies, as a good clan should. And if they fuck with us, we'll burn 'em to the ground anyways. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 09, 2013, 04:54:02 AM
Mosdorl.... woah...

Regardless, 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 09, 2013, 11:47:20 PM
5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 10, 2013, 01:15:36 AM
overwhelming apathyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

I'm not sure if I can promise an update tonight. and idk maybe sporadic for a bit. But nowhere near giving up I swear!

It's not like they even take me long per-update just suddenly ughhhhhhhhhh.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 10, 2013, 05:12:58 AM
3 sounds fine. Easy enough way to repay a favor.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 11, 2013, 01:40:22 AM
Sorry about the other night, guys. It's weird, I was feeling perfectly fine except for the part where my motivation tank was 100% empty. But I return!

... anyway, I'm not even screenshotting the result of just telling him what he wants on that event. "He thanked us and departed." That's all.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20026/kodp026-01_zps90015cd6.png~original)
Sacrificing to Humakt again gives me the blessing I was looking for. Truesword makes our weaponthanes fight as well as ten men (instead of the usual five).

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So yeah.

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Orlgard gives us the lowdown on those horse douchebags that beat us up in Earth season. *shakefist*

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HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT WE'RE DOING NEXT MONTH. (Usually tributes last longer than this. Lousy Elkenvali. On the bright side, we get to beat them up sooner than we would have on a one-off payment!)

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One of your carls, Rastoron, complains that his wife, Desrada, dishonored him. It all started when he went to worship at the Greenwing temple, and was insulted by Hofstaring, one of their carls. He challenged Hofstaring to a duel, but Desrada did not want him to fight. When the appointed day of the duel arrived, she found where the men were fighting, and knocked Rastoron dizzy with a big branch. He could not complete the duel, and now has lost his honor.

1. Convince Rastoron that Desrada had his best interests at heart.
2. Encourage Rastoron to duel Hofstaring again.
3. Scold Desrada
4. Scold Rastoron.
5. "This is not a matter for the clan ring."


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Rastoron's complaint to use is not about Hofstaring's behavior, but about Desrada's. As husband and wife, they are kin, and we should not intervene in a dispute between them. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Neither of them are especially good fighters. If they duel, they will probably wear each other out, with no serious injuries on either side. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) If Rastoron does not duel Hofstaring, Hofstaring's insults will be considered true. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Although both of them think they're in the right, Rastoron will respond to a scolding better than Desrada.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) The women will be unhappy if we mistreat Desrada. (1, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) The Greenwings will be unhappy if Hofstaring is killed. (Anything but 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) This is funnier than any joke I could make. (5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 11, 2013, 01:45:59 AM
Two heavily armed men enter, a woman with a stick leaves. All is right with this world.

I'd say give the woman a bigger stick and just break out the popcorn. 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 11, 2013, 05:59:07 AM
Mosdorl's advice is legit good o.O. 5 This is a domestic spat, it's not our concern.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 11, 2013, 06:10:39 AM
What does he think we are, marriage counselors? We have better things to do! 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on May 11, 2013, 07:54:26 AM
Surely, our little civilization has worse things to worry about. 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 12, 2013, 01:44:03 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20027/kodp027-01_zps13d97738.png~original)
There's a few "how these guys resolve their differences" variations on this choice but the differences are pretty much fluff - I kinda like the one where they basically go off to drink and complain about their wives though. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20027/kodp027-02_zpscf5d9c46.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20027/kodp027-03_zps7333bb45.png~original)
It's generally better to pick the large one-off payments on these little events, better to reap the long-term crafting materials yourself but especially when I haven't gotten the chance to swap some crafters over (I'll probably do that early next year), might as well get a little pocket cattle now.

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Let's go show the Elkenvali what happens to people who don't pay their protection money. >=|

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Chumps.

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Jesus how much magic did everyone spend in War this year?

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Hi there Sacred Time. Look at how well our crops are doing now! (Though we did also have that good harvest omen and an increasing me-cranking-up-wheat.)

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Vooooooooooooooooooooooooote

EDIT: Oh yeah p.s. I'm working lots of long/late shifts this week so expect updates to be late and possibly spotty. Apologies in advance, later weeks should be better once all the college kids get back working and my hours are decent but not crazy-go-nuts. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 12, 2013, 02:35:47 AM
Clearly we must collect lots of tinder for the coming winter and store it all within easy reach of any open flame and enemy flaming arrow. Yes indeed. *nodnod*
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 12, 2013, 04:12:02 AM
Put 2 magics on War and then let's go beat the Elkenvali again.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 12, 2013, 07:50:13 PM
War Magic. RAID ALL THE MANZ. MORE FARMS DOUSED IN THE BLOOD OF OUR ENEMIES!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 13, 2013, 02:37:12 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20028/kodp028-01_zps148c4ea3.png~original)
If I get a good chance I might do some diplomatic stuff, but so little time and so much to do!

First month of Sea I change crop ratios back away from tons of wheat. It's boring. You don't need to see it again.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20028/kodp028-02_zps915ae4c0.png~original)
Then I ship out some explorers to any old place.

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One of your carls, Dangmar, was injured by an arrow while helping to clear a forested patch of the tula. Neither he not his companions saw his assailant; although they were sober and alert. The arrow is simpler than those used by your people. It's crafted from a single piece of wood, and unusually sharp. Apart from tending to Dangmar's wounds, what do you do?

1. Perform a curse-lifting spell on Dangmar.
2. Perform a ritual of divination to identify the assailant.
3. Sacrifice to the gods for protection from unseen foes.
4. Send a war party out to search for the assailant.

(Oh hey look it's smart enough to realize I already have all my weaponthanes patrolling and so doesn't offer me "Step up patrols.")

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We should perform a divination. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) I can't give good advice without knowing more of our foe. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Their stealth in the forest, the type of the arrow - these are important clues.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) It's hard to make peace with an enemy who shoots before he talks. (1, 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) That arrow is of elven manufacture. We're dealing with the plant people, the Aldryami.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) The carls are afraid to go near the woods. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) I have nothing to add.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jana on May 13, 2013, 03:02:39 AM
No metal does scream of Wood Elves. If we pick 4 without performing the divination first, will our weaponthanes know what to look for without the formal divination?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 13, 2013, 12:30:50 PM
3, hopefully the power of the gods will dissuade further attacks.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 13, 2013, 10:41:11 PM
*nods, takes a puff from suddenly appearing pipe* It's elementary. You must simply examine the clues given to you and then realize that the enemy could do with a good earful of violin music to dissuade them from further violence.

<Randomly appearing Watson> Yes, by paralyzing them in pain.

<Me> Precisely.

<Watson> ...

2, then probably 3, but holding me horses on that.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 13, 2013, 11:39:22 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-01_zps92de94d4.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-02_zps23dba149.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-03_zps30368412.png~original)
Damn kids and your kinda sorta 3-way tie. Counting Stein as also a vote for 3 helped me break it a bit wthout having to have my own opinion. =P (Also pretty sure if we try to hunt them down we fail because they're stealthy and also MADE OF TREES.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-04_zps2edcfd36.png~original)
Can't stomp face without MORE WEAPONTHANES. (Even though we have more than it looked like because 5 of ours are off traipsing through the swamp right now. MORE ANYWAY.)

blah blah we need more farmers shut up Engarna why are you the one telling me this anyway this should be Enerin's job

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-05_zps5a6e6db6.png~original)
Oh hey look who's eager to get their faces beat in.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-06_zps971bbdf3.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-07_zpsd511fb72.png~original)
Orlgard failed his badassitude roll.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-08_zps2c42d8a8.png~original)
As did the rest of us.

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They'll pay for that!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-10_zpsc5394049.png~original)
Still chumps.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-11_zpsc93bcdc7.png~original)
Chumps who beat us anyway damnit guys I think we used up all of Arengee's favor on those first couple raids.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-12_zps6867eb8d.png~original)
I forgot to crop this one before uploading and don't feel like re-uploading, have some current events in larger filesize than necessary.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20029/kodp029-13_zps757713dd.png~original)
A young shepherd reports the theft of several sheep. From his description of the ragged-looking men, they are surely outlaws, stripped of the protection of their clans.

1. Do nothing.
2. Drive off the outlaws.
3. Hunt down and kill the outlaws.
4. Pardon the outlaws, recruiting them as weaponthanes.
5. Recompense the farmers.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Since they're outlaws, we could do anything we wanted with these men, stolen sheep or no stolen sheep.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) (apparently can't just be asked for advice from bed)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) It's harder than it sounds to catch a couple of outlaws in this terrain.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Thieves start with something small, like sheep. Then they move on to larger targets. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Better to steal sheep than cows or pigs. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) I admire their nerve! (4)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 14, 2013, 01:10:32 AM
3 WE MUST WORK OUT OUR FRUSTRATION WITH THOSE ELKENVALI DOGS. ALSO MURDER THE ELKENVALI FOREVER!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on May 14, 2013, 02:16:13 AM
I admire their nerve! (4)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 14, 2013, 02:27:40 AM
I agree with Mosdorl. 4
AND THEN LETS GO BEAT THE ELKENVALI AGAIN
WE MUST NOT REST UNTIL THEIR EARTH IS SALTIER THAN A PRETZEL
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 14, 2013, 12:04:42 PM
Huh, wow, I agree with Mosdorl as well for once! 4

I hope this doesn't anger the carls too much. :/
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 14, 2013, 03:40:16 PM
Given the rngs sudden hatred of us I say 2.  Get em out.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 14, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
We need more chaos in the ranks. 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 15, 2013, 12:39:38 AM
WE NEED MORE FARMS!!!!

4

Surely this won't bite us in the ass!

Also 5 if we can do both.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 15, 2013, 01:46:31 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20030/kodp030-01_zps2939384a.png~original)
Yay. More weaponthanes.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20030/kodp030-02_zpse63fda8c.png~original)
And no we're not raiding the Elkenvali again it's Earth season.

FUCK WHERE DID ALL MY GOODS GO oops I think I spent them all on weaponthanes.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20030/kodp030-03_zps63417a8d.png~original)
... I was gonna sac to Issaries but let's go sacrifice to someone who prefers cows instead. >_> Orlanth's blessings are decent if mostly unthrilling, and most importantly he has two heroquests that are both relatively easy. We ended up with one of the ones I covered in clan-making summaries.

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The weaponthanes, led by Orlkarnth, complain that you have been favoring the lowly carls over them. "We are not being treated as honorable nobles," they protest, "but like mere cottars, as servants of the farmers' whims. We warriors look enviously at other clans; if a man risks his life for them, he can expect his proper due."

1. Assign cottars as servants to leading weaponthanes.
2. Compose a poem praising the weaponthanes and satirizing the carls.
3. Distribute rings and silver among the weaponthanes.
(WE HAVE 14 GOODS YOU DOOFUSES.)
4. Give a feast in honor of the weaponthanes.
5. Persuade them that their grievances are exaggerated.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Humor and respect are the best remedy for this grumbling illness. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) (Still hurt. If only Chalana Arroy didn't prefer goods. I'd guess, as our warleader, he'd advise something along the lines of not-5 though.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) King Heort laid down that those who risk their lives for the clan are its nobility, and deserve to be recognized as such. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) It is better to give a feast than to simply gift the weaponthanes. The carls can share in the feast, and will not be as slighted. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) I have to admit that the carls have been a wee bit prideful as of late, and at the weaponthanes' expense. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Violence was first invented by greed, then refined by revenge, anger, and hatred.

But Mosdorl, the second principle of the Orlanthi is  "Violence is always an answer"! (The first is "No one can make you do anything", and the third is "There is always another way".)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 15, 2013, 02:37:06 AM
Clearly we must make beautiful music with the weaponthanes and sneer at the high and mighty carls. Glory be the guy with his sword at my throat, pity be the man living feebly of his own hard earned wogurblokokok!

Glory be the man liberating the enemy's goods for our cause, pity be the man who sustains us with lowly labor. All hail the thanes, glorious with fire, lightning and steel, protecting the weak ones in the fields from the terrors beyond our tula's lines... hey didn't you guys kinda losgrahyesyesofcoursenoneofthatiunderstand!

2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 15, 2013, 03:34:41 AM
Woah Mosdorl, that's deep.

Anyway, 4, WE EAT!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on May 15, 2013, 06:42:07 PM
I shall remain silent no longer!

The weaponthanes risk their lives day in and day out and get less respect than two dozen Rodney Dangerfields. Just look at poor Orlie. Clearly they deserve some sort of recompense but nothing too crazy or wasteful. 2 or 4 will do.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 15, 2013, 06:48:30 PM
1, yo Let's make em steal men's souls and make them their slaves!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 15, 2013, 11:43:57 PM
We should give them something tangible, and since we're out of goods 4.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: draganuv15 on May 16, 2013, 01:25:18 AM
4 but only because I'm hungry :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 16, 2013, 11:06:53 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20031/kodp031-01_zps735fdcc8.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20031/kodp031-02_zpse82d676e.png~original)
I have no idea what sort of amount of cows is reasonable here, but seven is as fortuitous a number in Orlanthi culture as our own, so it can't be that horrible an idea. The carls can fuck off, dudes are never happy.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20031/kodp031-03_zps6db7b100.png~original)
We learn a godLARP campaign! \o/ The Making of the Storm Tribe is probably one of the easiest heroquests in the game too so I'll probably be inclined to give this one a whirl next game year once we've had a chance to put some magic into Quests. (Also lol I need a chance to screencap it and Elmal Guards the Stead and actually get around to stitching them together. But before I can go screenshot this one...)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20031/kodp031-04_zpsa4181a80.png~original)
Frantic carls run to the ring to report that Greenwing carls are calmly taking an entire herd of fifty cattle away from you. "If it is a raid," they say, "It is a very strange raid: the Greenwings act as if they have permission to do this!" Then Mosdorl speaks up. "They do have permission. My permission. I said they could take the whole herd. That herd was entirely made up of funny-looking cows." The carls are beside themselves with shock and outrage.

1. Do nothing.
2. "It is the trickster's religious duty to betray us."
3. Persuade the Greenwings to give the cows back.
4. Punish Mosdorl.
5. "They were really funny-looking cows."
6. Threaten to raid the Greenwings if they don't return the cows.
(It's still Earth season and I'm unsure whether we have to follow up on this threat or not, just FYI.)
7. Have Iskalli replace lost cattle from his own herd.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) I must act quickly to salvage this ridiculous situation. (3, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) (Dude's still hurt? Slacker.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Mosdorl has promised to obey the chieftain. He is sanctioned and protected - so long as he does nothing as blatantly harmful as this! Outlaw him. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Maybe they will give the cows back if we promise them two great favors later. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) A sharp sword is useless if we do not use it. (6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) It is more important to get the cows back than to punish Mosdorl. (3, 6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) I mean it, these are really funny-looking cows. (1)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 16, 2013, 11:11:37 PM
5 Seriously, those cows were HI-LAR-IOUS!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 16, 2013, 11:16:20 PM
7 Sucks to be the boss.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 16, 2013, 11:48:01 PM
I'll wager that they are "funny-looking" because they have a terrible disease or something.
Anyway, 7. Sucks to be the boss, yes.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on May 17, 2013, 12:46:11 AM
8. Feed Mosdorl to the cows.

By which I mean 2.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: draganuv15 on May 17, 2013, 12:47:37 AM
6 because stab.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 17, 2013, 01:02:43 AM
I probably could have done a less bloated job of stitching them together but I added the myths and other background to the second post of the thread. Even the one we just got the full myth for, because I remembered that I have virtual machine savestates so I backed it up and then passed up the event we're on and then restored my backup so we're right where the thread left off. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 17, 2013, 01:26:58 AM
7, then 2, then 4.

It's how things roll.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on May 17, 2013, 01:35:02 AM
Is it actually his religious duty to betray us? If so, 2. Can't fault him for doing his job.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 17, 2013, 01:37:25 AM
Is it actually his religious duty to betray us?

Pretty much!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on May 17, 2013, 02:11:52 AM
I mean it, these are really funny-looking cows. (1)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 17, 2013, 02:24:09 AM
2, 3, Mosdorl will be Mosdorl, but we don't want to lose that many cows.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 17, 2013, 05:10:49 AM
Seriously, have you *seen* those cows? They're like... the funniest thing ever. 5!

And then just give them Iskalli's cows 7

And keep Mosdorl because he's beginning to be really fun :D
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 17, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
5.

I guess Mosdorl took the bull by the horns there and got rid of those clowns.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 17, 2013, 11:27:35 PM
... we had a tie for where to start (and this event I'm pretty sure only allows one).

<ArashiKurobara> @choose 5 or 7
<Keine-tan> ArashiKurobara: I choose...7! ^_^V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20032/kodp032-01_zps8b219333.png~original)

Welp, after that cow hit I don't think I wanna sac more this year. >_> Thankfully exploring our own turf doesn't take the Dark season penalty! (Unthankfully, I forgot to screencap the "send off explorers" screen. Not like it's any different than any other time we've explored our own turf. =P)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20032/kodp032-02_zpsefea894b.png~original)
As your people explore your tula, you find many unusual features. One of these is a cave. The cave is inhabited by large, armored rodents with huge mouths filled with teeth, each as sharp as a needle. The creatures swarm out of the cave and attack the carls who found the cave, injuring several of them. The people are worried that these creatures will cause more harm.

1. Block the cave entrance.
2. Have Mosdorl lure them away with trickster magic.
3. Find outsiders to exterminate the creatures.
(p.s. this costs goods)
4. Order your weaponthanes to exterminate the creatures.
5. Shrug and go about your business.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) The weaponthanes say this is a matter for the carls to deal with. They are not rat-catchers. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) (Yeah OK get better already you useless fuck.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) We need some kind of magic solution to this infestation. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Why risk getting bitten ourselves, when we can find someone else to do it for us? (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) The carls say that this is a killing matter, and thus the responsibility of the weaponthanes. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) These things are called Rubble Runners. They multiply like mad and are very dangerous. The only way to get rid of them is to kill each and every one of them. (3, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) We should send them over to the Zethnorings. They'll recognize them as their kin, I'm sure! (2)

FUCKING RUBBLE-RUNNERS.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 17, 2013, 11:31:31 PM
Hey Mosdorl!  You like giving away pets!

2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on May 17, 2013, 11:43:41 PM
If anyone can do something about it, it's Mosdorl. He needs to make up for the whole cow debacle anyway. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 17, 2013, 11:52:05 PM
2

Help Mosdorl reunite the Rubble Runners with their poor kin. The Zethnorings must miss them so much.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 18, 2013, 12:03:07 AM
2 Seems we FINALLY see an option that makes Mosdorl useful :O
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 18, 2013, 07:55:30 AM
How could we choose anything but 2! If you're so eager, Mosdorl, take the lead~
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 18, 2013, 03:35:55 PM
Well, hopefully he won't lure the things into the village. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 18, 2013, 04:28:08 PM
There's something suspicious about that Mosdorl guy. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on May 18, 2013, 04:58:51 PM
Such cute kitties!

2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 19, 2013, 11:40:16 PM
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Anyway. With this event, every option has a chance to get rid of the rubble-runners for good, but it's pretty slim. As in, we will see this again, nearly guaranteed. Since using a trickster is basically the best way to deal with it (blocking the cave pisses off the carls who have to do it, making the weaponthanes do it pisses them off, doing nothing pisses off everyone, hiring dudes costs money), unless there's some sort of strong opposition to this decision that was basically unanimous to start with, I'm just going to do that every time they show up. 'K?

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Oh hey I remembered to screenshot this time.

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We find absolutely nothing except some chump bandits we kick into last week. (There's probably still plenty of stuff. Arengee is just displeased with us for some reason.)

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Warriors of the Zethnoring clan burst into the stead of Orlkensor, one of your prominent carls. They beat him severely and slash him with their swords. They also hurt his wife, Karendra when she tries to intervene. They flee before other defenders can be roused to fight them. Karendra says that they are taking vengeance on Orlkensor for beating one of their clan-mates after a drunken meeting in the forest lands outside your tula.

1. Encourage Orlkensor to sponsor poetic revenge.
2. Encourage Orlkensor to sponsor violent revenge.
3. Launch a legal claim against the attackers.
4. Launch a punitive raid against the Zethnoring clan.
5. Persuade Orlkensor to forswear vengeance.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) The nastiest revenge is not always the bloodiest. (1)
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(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) They must pay for this! (4) (... dude you are the worst Chalana Arroyan. Except for that one dude in Haifisch's LP.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Left to his own devices, Orlkensor will pursue violent revenge.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Orlanth undermined the Bad Emperor with scathing kennings. The Emperor heard Orlanth's verses sung by his birds and mooed by his cattle. This is why all the Emperor's minions helped Orlanth when he came to rescue Ernalda. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) The people want to see Orlkensor's attackers pay for what they have done. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) This situatio ncalls for the grey-beards. And the brown- and blonde- and red-beards too. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 20, 2013, 03:36:15 AM
3

Beards are the answer to everything. (Unless violence is. Then beards are even more the answer.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 20, 2013, 03:41:21 AM
Poetic revenge is the best revenge.

Hopefully we can do it and legal revenge, too, because both are good. But poetic is just slightly better and all our ancestors needed.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 20, 2013, 07:14:19 AM
1 sounds fun.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on May 20, 2013, 01:38:50 PM
This situation calls for the grey-beards. And the brown- and blonde- and red-beards too. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 20, 2013, 05:59:57 PM
1  Given we just sent some rats to make them pissed off, I'm betting the courts aren't going to work well.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 21, 2013, 12:33:53 AM
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Poetry: making fun of your enemies for fun and... well I guess usually not profit. Especially because come on man Iskalli should actually be a damn good poet, hire us for it.

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The omens from the year's start proved true...

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... so let's get some cattle from these chumps instead.

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Elkenvali patrols: useless pieces of shit since at least 1331.

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This dude, it turns out, is only Very Good at Combat, so play it a little safe.

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Flawless victory!

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Blah blah insert further Elkenvali warrior snark here..

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Engarna, we lost ONE GUY and it's Storm season anyway. Also, yay random farmer chick?

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And thus, it is again Sacred Time.

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Heroquest options and their available rewards, now that we have something safer than Elmal's!
The Making of the Storm Tribe: gain Orlanth's blessing for tribe-making (even though
we can't form a tribe until our reputation maxes anyway
, improve our reputation or political abilities, or make the quester a strong leader.
Elmal Guards the Stead which fuckno we totally aren't doing yet because it's a really hard one but just for completeness's sake: strengthen our defenses, gain fine horses, strengthen our leaders or the quester, ward against chaos, or reconcile the weaponthanes.

You've got lots of time to put in specific heroquest opinions, since Orlanth's heroquests are best performed during Storm season, but if you've got an opinion, voice it!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 21, 2013, 12:44:04 AM
Well, after two victories in a row, the only words I have ringing in my ear are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hHDxlm66dE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hHDxlm66dE)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 21, 2013, 12:58:25 AM
What does political abilities mean?  Just better diplomacy for a bit?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on May 21, 2013, 01:03:25 AM
Well, after two victories in a row, the only words I have ringing in my ear are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hHDxlm66dE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hHDxlm66dE)

Is it actually possible to totally wipe out a clan?

Also I don't see any need to do a quest right now, especially since it looks like this is a good year to do other stuff. Let's try to get those trade routes opened up.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 21, 2013, 01:23:48 AM
What does political abilities mean?  Just better diplomacy for a bit?

Fucked if I know, the rewards really are that fucking vague.

Is it actually possible to totally wipe out a clan?

Possible? Yes. Likely to ever happen? Not really. You really do have to turn them into a full-on smoldering hole in the ground hard enough you'll basically never see it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 21, 2013, 02:27:15 AM
I'd like to do a Heroquest to boost reputation just because, though since that happens during storm season I see no reason we can't toss in some trade requests in as well
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Amraphenson on May 21, 2013, 03:51:04 AM
I'd like to do a Heroquest to boost reputation just because, though since that happens during storm season I see no reason we can't toss in some trade requests in as well

Going with this.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 21, 2013, 04:23:25 AM
POUND THE ELKENVALI also the Orlanth Hero Tribemaking quest sounds good.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 21, 2013, 06:17:02 AM
We need to do the Hero Quest to BUILD MORE FARMS BEFORE WE STARVE TO DEATH!

Also Iced's idea.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 21, 2013, 11:40:30 PM
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If we weren't questing this year I'd've probably put two in Diplomacy for the other desired tasks this year, but I feel safer keeping a nice stockpile ready for quest time.

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Also some old boring noble died.

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From now on let's just assume I spend the first month of Sea modifying crop ratios as necessary for harvest omens and make minor tweaks to the alloted land while I'm there. =P

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A trader and explorer named Colymar comes to your clan hall to report a strange incident he witnessed while travelling to the west. He saw strangely attired women planting magical staves into the earth. It was obviously a magical ritual. Colymar thinks that it was a malign ceremony, one that spells danger for all of Dragon Pass.

1. Exchange trade goods with him.
2. Perform a divination to learn more about the priestesses.
3. Seek divine protection from this bad magic.
(Judging by the advice, please specify a deity to seek said protection from.)
4. Send a scouting party west to learn more about the priestesses.
5. Thank him for the warning.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) As protector of the earth, Ernalda might help us. As trickster, Eurmal might fool our enemies. Strange priestesses are not Orlanth's specialty. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Never trust a witch woman. Their magic is wild and bad, without a doubt.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) We should sacrifice to Orlanth. Give him at least ten cows. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Let's trade with this fellow. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Their ritual curses the land. Its effects may carry for long distances. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) These women fit the description of no people I know of. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Let's not decide on what to do without first taking a divination. (2)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on May 22, 2013, 12:09:59 AM
Let's not decide on what to do without first taking a divination. (2)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 22, 2013, 03:10:43 AM
Mosdorl's being reasonable again. That feels so wrong. 2, and if it's possible to choose more than one option, 3 (sacrifice to Ernalda)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 22, 2013, 05:10:11 AM
Hrm, yeah.  2 then probably 3 Ernalda, unless it's obviously some other deities thing.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Amraphenson on May 22, 2013, 05:33:03 AM
2, then 4. I mean I'm all for the gods, but maybe we should get some info. They might be frauds.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 22, 2013, 06:04:13 AM
This guy came all this way to trade with us, and we're just gonna let him sit there like so much baggage? Trade with the poor sap, for blimey's sake! 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 22, 2013, 06:53:44 AM
2, if malign, BRIBE THE GODS WITH SACRIFICES. 3 with Eurmal!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on May 22, 2013, 10:14:46 AM
2. Divine and conquer. If they turn out to be maleficent to us, MORE TRICKS FOR THE TRICKSTER GOD! 3, Eurmal.

 
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 23, 2013, 02:18:28 AM
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... oops, apparently "more info" means "pick 4". And I didn't have a backup of my savestate. orz (If I had had backups and picking "no" let me pick to sac, I probably would have actually put it up for a re-vote because the mention of undead makes the best god here Humakt by far. This is exactly his schtick.)

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Let's see what we can do with ol' Blacktail before he keels over from old. But trade missions tend to take a month to pop.

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo our Uroxi ;_;

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While we wait for Kulbrast to deal with the Blue Spruce, let's go do the usual fire season activities.

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Eh, at least all we lost were mooks.

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Scouts from your clan bring a witness who bears a terrible warning. Redtail, a duck from the Upland Marsh area, says that the undead of the marsh are on the move. They are controlled by a centuries-old magician called Delecti. The ducks have always struggled to suppress the undead, but now they must also fight off raids launched by Orlanthi settlers. Taking advantage of their distraction, Delecti's weird priestesses have begun to enlarge the marsh. If it continues to grow, all of Dragon Pass might be overrun by ghouls, zombies, and vampires.

1. Hire mercenaries to help the ducks.
2. Sacrifice to Humakt, foe of the undead.
3. Send warriors to help the ducks.
4. Tell other clans to stop raiding the ducks.
5. Thank the duck for his report.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We can convince our neighbors to stop raiding the ducks, if it means protection from the undead. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We can spare some warriors now, to avoid a worse fight later. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) I'm not sure about this.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Mercenaries will want ten cows apiece to fight the undead. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) We won't last too long if Delecti turns our cropland into swamps. (1, 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) It might be hard to convince our neighbors to stop raiding the ducks. They won't necessarily believe the story about Delecti. (1, 2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) The duck was looking at me funny the whole time. I'm sure of it. You all noticed it, didn't you?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 23, 2013, 02:22:51 AM
CAn we do both 2 and 4? Because both 2 and 4 seem good. That said, I'll favor 2 if we have to choose.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 23, 2013, 02:30:08 AM
CAn we do both 2 and 4? Because both 2 and 4 seem good. That said, I'll favor 2 if we have to choose.
Agreed, seems to be the best choice here. 2 and 4; if you can only choose one, 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 23, 2013, 02:50:41 AM
3, and 2 as well if possible.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Mr_Bob on May 23, 2013, 07:41:53 AM
Arengee - RNG. How did it take me this long?
How many of these can we do?
2, 3, and 4 sounds like a fine plan.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on May 23, 2013, 11:43:23 AM
2, 3, and 4 sounds like a fine plan.
CLEANSE AND PURGE. One way or another, this has gotta stop. It's a zombie apocalypse and the more that's done to stop it the better.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on May 23, 2013, 01:21:45 PM
The duck was looking at me funny the whole time. I'm sure of it. You all noticed it, didn't you?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: draganuv15 on May 23, 2013, 07:24:29 PM
2 and 3 sound pretty good, and yes Mosdorl that duck was looking at you funny.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on May 23, 2013, 09:11:15 PM
Nobody fucks with our farmland. Let's get right down to business. 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 23, 2013, 11:25:34 PM
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Duckbros to the rescue!

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Your trader, Kulbrast, arrives in the Blue Spruce tula. Their clan ring consults, and says they might be willing to buy Blacktail the Bull. They would also consider offering Eurmal's Balls. They summarize its abilities: "Juggling balls that increase our magic if we have a Trickster on the clan ring."

1. Buy Eurmal's Balls.
2. Decline the trade.
3. Offer to exchange treasure for treasure.
4. Sell Blacktail the Bull.


Kulbrast just says that treasures are hard to price but usually worth at least 50 cows (though they're usually bought/sold in goods, literally speaking). FWIW, exchanging straight across has a moderate chance of refusal, probably influenced by our Bargaining, though we can't sell and buy in the same transaction either.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 24, 2013, 12:27:38 AM
This bull of ours, is he useful for anything?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on May 24, 2013, 01:34:16 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/RuTsBK9.png)

Assuming we're not planning on throwing Mosdorl into the river anytime soon, some extra magic sounds pretty rad. 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 24, 2013, 02:14:00 AM
3, also, is that guy in the image wearing gold pants with a gold axe? Blue Spruce must be rich :o
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 24, 2013, 05:33:35 AM
This bull of ours, is he useful for anything?

Ol' Blacktail here helps us spawn some extra cows for a while but he is a living thing, so he'll keel over in a few years - we won't have to worry for a bit but it might be worth trying to sell/trade him off a while later for a more permanent treasure.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 24, 2013, 05:34:23 AM
Goddamnit Stuffman :V

Jumping on the 3 bandwagon if our Bargaining is at least in the two highest levels here. Otherwise might just wanna buy straight up.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 24, 2013, 05:44:23 AM
Mosdorl demands his balls! Let the man at his balls. He must have the balls! Balls! BALLS! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

Sorry, tight leatherpants grabbed the... well guess.

3 or if more feasible 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 24, 2013, 06:14:25 AM
Hm, the balls do seem more useful than the bull. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 24, 2013, 08:35:13 PM
You all abandoned our mallard brethren the moment I looked away. I cannot express how shamed our ancestors are.

Also: 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 24, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
3 LET US BE BRIBED WITH BALLS!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 25, 2013, 02:05:57 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20038/kodp038-01_zps082c0fc8.png~original)
Don't say I didn't warn y'all. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20038/kodp038-02_zps69581a84.png~original)
Ahahahahahahahaha really?

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So yeah they get sent packing.

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Cultists of Uralda, mother of cows, come to you seeking aid. Herds in a distant corner of Dragon Pass are sickening and dying, and divinations have revealed that this is the work of the chaos goddess called Malia. It is to everyone's advantage to end this scourge before it spreads. The Uralda priestesses plan to perform a great ceremony of purification, and they want you to contribute to the cause.

1. Conduct your own sacrifice to Uralda, that they might succeed.
2. Offer them a share of your clan magic.
3. Offer them wealth to sacrifice.
4. Refuse them.
5. Send an Uralda god-talker to help at the ceremony.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We are not obligated ot help them. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) It is doubtful that our cows will be affected by this problem.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) We must sacrifice on their behalf. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) I recognize many Tanaharts among them.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Uralda is the bountiful cow mother, who brought her four-legged people into Ernalda's stead.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) I should go help them. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Our clan founders helps Uralda cultists, so we are legally obligated to do the same. (3)

Updates may be early tomorrow and Sunday - I'm working from early evening until 10-ish both days so by the time I get home and caught up on other sutff it'll be dumb o'clock.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 25, 2013, 04:35:06 AM
Did... Did Mosdorl remember our history better then anyone else?  We're in trouble.

5 Yeah, send the cow worshiper to clean things up.  Er, unless she's bad at it in which case send magics.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 25, 2013, 05:41:42 AM
Did... Did Mosdorl remember our history better then anyone else?  We're in trouble.

You cannot be a true trickster without knowing the truths of the past and the present. Only when you know time's true form can you shape it to your own whims, and put a smile on that wicked face of yours.

And dammit, why couldn't the folks asking for help be more specific in what exactly they need?

Hrm... If we have Uralda God-talker besides Engarna to spare, or if sending her doesn't seem too bad to ye, Arashi, send her. 5 If it does seem like a bad idea though, I suggest sacrificing. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 25, 2013, 02:54:20 PM
5 if our Godtalker is up to code. Otherwise 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 25, 2013, 09:00:03 PM
5 if she's good enough/spareable, 3 if not because BRIBE EVERYONE
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on May 26, 2013, 01:22:27 AM
Our clan founders helps Uralda cultists, so we are legally obligated to do the same. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 26, 2013, 06:44:13 PM
Yeah I decided just one update on Sunday afternoon gets a nice split between Friday night and Monday night.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20039/kodp039-01_zpseb160dd8.png~original)
Apparently this is one of those events that lets you pick someone! I forgot those were a thing, lol. And somewhere along the line Umathkar here became better at Animals and Magic than Engarna? Maybe she was always better at Magic, I dunno. Animals nobles are hilariously interchangable anyway so I don't think I'll put her on the ring until/unless I'm fussing with it for some other reason, but I totally will ship her off to the ritual because she's better at the stuff mostly likely to be relevant and she's not on our ring.

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Oh hey I guess we don't get instant feedback on this one? Good thing I kept Engarna around the tula for (hilariously useless most of the time) advice, then!

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I'm a fan of this "go punch the Elkenvali all the time" plan we've got going here.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20039/kodp039-04_zpse705b19c.png~original)
Except they're really good at driving us off considering how much they suck at not dying.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20039/kodp039-05_zpsf7c9fecd.png~original)
And for harvest season month 1, let's see about trying to set up a trade route again.

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Explorers from your clan find the body of a dragonewt warrior lying in a stream bed inside the boundaries of the tula. Some of them have heard that it is possible to make magical armor from the hide of a dragonewt. However, they don't want to touch or move the body without first seeking advice from the ring.

1. Destroy the body.
2. Give it to another clan.
3. Leave it alone.
4. Trade it to another clan.
5. Try to make magical armor from its hide.
(p.s. if we do this, we can only assign it to one person - who do we have wear it?)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) It is difficult to make the armor. If you tear the skin of the torso, or any of the tattoos, the hide is useless. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Remember what happened in the Dragonkill War. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Leave it alone. It might spread disease. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) We should ask twenty-five cows for it. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Dragonewts make all the other strange foreigners look normal by comparison. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) we should demand fifteen cows for it. (4) (Engarna why would I listen to your opinion on trade values when we have an Issarite right here?)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) You can't make magical armor out of a dragonewt corpse. That's an old wive's [sic] tale. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 26, 2013, 08:51:22 PM
5! Let's bribe our explorer guy with it, the one that always gets his ass kicked by outlaws!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 26, 2013, 11:24:11 PM
3  Pretty sure our ancestors think skinning dragons to be uncool.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 27, 2013, 12:29:08 AM
1

You eat our bros? We fuck up your remains.

Total war with the dragons for betraying our ancestors, forever.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 27, 2013, 05:45:27 AM
4

Make money of others people's misfortunes. Get filthy honking rich. PROFIT!!! No need for unknown factors in that progression.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Mr_Bob on May 27, 2013, 07:34:42 AM
Get that dead corpse out of our fresh water supply. And make money. 5. Seems that leaving it alone is probably the only pro-dragon choice.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on May 27, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
5. I wager this may save Orlgard from being incapacitated for another YEAR at one time or another.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 27, 2013, 11:31:19 PM
5, Orlgard must become the ultimate smiter of  all our foes the Elkenvali
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 27, 2013, 11:32:05 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20040/kodp040-01_zpsc8562cac.png~original)
... welp. At least I don't have to figure out who to give it to. :V

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Someday we'll have exploration that doesn't suck, I swear.

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Current events (also our harvest kicked butt)! Silly Iskalli, we can't really afford to make a clan yet plus I'm pretty sure our rep's not maxed out either.

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Issaries spits out a blessing for us. Trading "helps our traders and negotiators" why is everything in this game so damn vague.

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Ashart, a great Uroxi warrior from the Chaos-hating Undaroli clan, comes to share a blood-curdling tale. One of that clan's ring members was just found decapitated in the forested part of the Undaroli tula. Ashart is certain that the killer is a member of the chaotic cult of Thanatar, known for stealing heads and putting them to grim magical use. Ashart's clan-mates conducted a divination, and concluded that the Thanatar cultist is a member of your clan! Ashart wants to question your clan members in order to identify the culprit.

1. Conduct your own divination.
2. Have the clan ring conduct the questioning.
3. Let Ashart interrogate people.
4. Refuse him.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) He has already decided someone is guilty. Do not trust him. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Together, the Uroxi warriors of Dragon Pass could destroy our entire clan. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) If their divination says one of us is a cultist of Thanatar, they must be right. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) The Uroxi have no quarrel with us. We needn't fear their immediate wrath, even if we deny Ashart. (2, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Urox is the foe of Chaos. When he fights for us, he is the Cleansing Wind. when he bullies us, he is the Bad Wind.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Remember, if we offend Ashart, we offend his clan as well. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) We do not wish to anger all the Uroxi of Dragon Pass. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 28, 2013, 12:09:23 AM
Well, if even Mosdorl thinks so it really must be a serious affair, 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 28, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
Did someone give Mosdorl, like, sedatives or something? Opium? He's really, like, calmed down.

1, if we have bad manz in the clan, 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jana on May 28, 2013, 12:28:04 AM
Maybe it's because he already fulfilled his obligation to betray us one? Anyway, 3. Sounds like some serious shit and the man seems to know what he's doing.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 28, 2013, 12:56:58 AM
If we can choose two option, 1 first; if it reveals that there is a culprit in our clan, 3, If it reveals there isn't, 4. If it reveals nothing useful, 3.

If we can't choose more than one, go straight for  3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 28, 2013, 04:44:47 AM
Following the "1, if culprit is in our clan 3" bandwagon. If the divination turns up that the Uroxi is wrong, 2, have our clan ring do the questioning so the Uroxi won't be mad we didn't do anything at all I guess.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 28, 2013, 05:06:01 AM
1, 2.  We should handle our own messes.  We don't need an outsider to stab mans.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on May 28, 2013, 11:53:46 AM
1. If this guy's story holds water, then 3 to follow up. If he's an enemy of HERESY, we'll want him on our side.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 29, 2013, 12:08:12 AM
First off: oops, I listed the wrong effect for Trading last update - the effect I listed is for Silvertongue. Trading improves the profit of our trading missions (i.e. the times I actively send a dude off to do things).

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Yeah whatever dude. And stay out!

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Sacrificing to Vinga because hey. And she gives us Fyrdwomen! This lets women fight for us (though only on our own tula). We are now more gross on defense. :3

And then... STORM SEASON, TIME FOR GODLARP.

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No one seemed to have any particular opinion on who to send, and the game auto-picked Orlgard, so sure why not. (The game picks whoever it thinks will be best on a given quest, and worshippers of the same deity as the quest do get a bonus, so while The Making of the Storm Tribe with a goal of strenghtening the quester is one gladly I'll send anyone whose leadership I want to improve on, given a different goal our best Orlanth dude seems reasonable. Sometimes the game is hilariously wrong about who's best at a quest though. *cough
Uralda's Blessing
cough*)

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The people have gathered their magic to help propel Orlgard into the realm of the gods, with the assistance of 40 Blue Spruces.

In this quest, Orlanth founds the Storm Tribe by gathering together his kin and allies. What benefit do you seek from this heroquest?

1. Gain Orlanth's blessing for tribe-making.
2. Make the quester a strong leader.
3. Improve the reputation of the clan.
4. Improve the political abilities of clan leaders.

Not bolding that because you guys who voted for a particular option at all back at Sacred Time all seemed pretty unanimous in wanting to improve reputation and I wanna keep this moving along, but I did make backups this time (at this point, though, so we are fixed on Orlgard. This was perhaps short-sighted in case suddenly everyone wants to boost Iskalli's leadership or something. :V)

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... or... not. Maybe I should have made a real save before attempting to heroquest why am I a dumbass. *nukes the now-unnecessary backup because like 99% sure it makes this particular roll right before where I backed up*

It's safest to wait at least one full year, preferably closer to two, between heroquests, even failed attempts like this one, so next year a quest isn't going to be in the cards, sadly. The year after, though, we should be golden, and maybe we'll have even more options by then?

I promise outright fizzling like this doesn't actually happen very often. Especially with multiple points in Quests at Sacred Time.

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Hey look guys we have someone competent exploring.

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Your explorers stumble across a bizarre sight to the northwest. It is a huge mountain face with a number of huge doors. Enormous statues sit outside, as if watching visitors. The big metal cylinders pointing out of the mountain face might be weapons of some kind. There is no sound coming from inside the mountain.

1. Continue to explore area, in search of a back entrance.
2. Force the doors open.
3. Knock the doors open.
4. Leave well enough alone.
5. Tell other clans about this place.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20041/randan_temp_zpsa0bfdd5c.png~original) We could just be awakening another enemy, which we need like holes in the head. (4)

... OK Randan, I think I like your snark. Also, I've never gotten this variant on exploring here before! This update isn't a waste! Exciting~
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on May 29, 2013, 12:13:36 AM
1, we came here to explore and that's what we'll do!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on May 29, 2013, 12:28:53 AM
5  Let's brag about it while safely at home.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on May 29, 2013, 01:03:09 AM
...goddamnit I'm really curious about what's in there. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jana on May 29, 2013, 01:57:00 AM
DORF FORTRESS

Which means the inhabitants are probably all dead already! 2 or 3 (what's the difference anyway?)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on May 29, 2013, 05:45:31 AM
As fun as it sounds to just barge in, I'm more for careful exploring: 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 29, 2013, 06:58:13 AM
Ooooh...

Dwarves got styyyyle...

And given the fact that they got apparently gun powder and good cannons, even if this place is abandoned, I am not thinking that introducing the front gates to brute force is gonna sit well with them.
Most dwarves I know love their grudges too much.

And fail horribly at spot checks. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 29, 2013, 08:01:10 AM
1, hell yeah. BRIBE THE BACK ENTRANCE
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on May 29, 2013, 11:41:34 AM
...goddamnit I'm really curious about what's in there. 1
Curiouser and curiouser! 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on May 29, 2013, 11:57:33 AM
Let's be smart about finding out what's in there. A wall full of cannons is just waiting to blow us away. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: draganuv15 on May 29, 2013, 02:23:45 PM
I've played enough Dwarf Fortress to know this will end bad or worse. 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on May 29, 2013, 05:36:45 PM
I wonder what the difference between 2 and 3 is?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 29, 2013, 11:20:33 PM
Welp, continuing to explore doesn't give us anything yet (as in, not even a blurb for me to screenshot, it just skipped right to what's next).

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20042/kodp042-01_zps7dcf576b.png~original)
Oh these guys. Please, come water my crops with your blood.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20042/kodp042-02_zps465be32a.png~original)
Thanks!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20042/kodp042-03_zpse989299d.png~original)
Randan, you're not my new favorite anymore.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20042/kodp042-04_zps2a7cb0f9.png~original)
... oh yeah heroquesting takes up two months. I'd heard that but in my own playthroughs not kept enough track of the time to confirm it. I'm not sure if it would have let me even try the heroquest in the second month of Storm? Maybe I should have waited, got in one more action.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20042/kodp042-05_zpsb37031c1.png~original)
But anyway, it's voting time.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: draganuv15 on May 29, 2013, 11:25:22 PM
I ain't good at this sort of thing. I would probably go to Herds maybe? Extra cattle sounds nice.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on May 30, 2013, 12:44:03 AM
Hrm... I am overcome with bloodlust. Stab the Elkenvali more! All resources must go towards eradicating the everloving platypus eggs out of the Elkenvali!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 30, 2013, 10:45:48 PM
Hrm... I am overcome with bloodlust. Stab the Elkenvali more! All resources must go towards eradicating the everloving platypus eggs out of the Elkenvali!

This. KILL THE ELKENVALI AND USE THEIR BODIES FOR MORE FARMS
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 01, 2013, 01:22:45 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20043/kodp043-01_zps3eae4004.png~original)
... oh damnit I forgot to screenshot my magic assignment. 2 Crops, 2 Herds, 1 Mysteries, 2 War, 5 floating. Have a current event instead!

Crop tweaks blah no need to see those (went a little heavy on rye because of the rain omen).

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20043/kodp043-02_zpsd40ddded.png~original)
Hey Vinga help us kick more butt with that blessing you gave us.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20043/kodp043-03_zps25f5d2f1.png~original)
A delegation from the Elkenval clan comes to your tula to propose a peace settlement. "Life here is quite workable. There are enough Orlanthi to trade with, and plenty of good land for everyone to farm. Why not come to a responsible agreement and end our futile fight? Shall we gladden the hearts of our other enemies by fighting each other, instead of shedding their blood?"

1. "We accept your offer of peace! Let us feast!"
2. "We are always ready to talk."
3. "We do not trust you.  Begone."
4. "We will talk, but you must prove that we can trust you."
5. "We're not having problems with other enemies."


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Since they are approaching us, we can rightly demand proof of their intentions. We can demand one of their noble youngsters left with us as hostage, or a peacebond of cows left with another clan. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We have the stronger force, it is no wonder that they now sue us for peace. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) King Heort made peace as often as he made war. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) If they offer us gifts, we should impress them by offering even more in return. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) We have not yet revenged ourselves against them for the many slights they have given us. I say no peace! (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Everyone thinks it's a generous offer. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) If they offer us gifts, we should recprocate. (2)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 01, 2013, 01:25:58 AM
3. These fuckers had their chance. They will not be permitted to live.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 01, 2013, 02:57:53 AM
4 Prove it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jana on June 01, 2013, 03:54:21 AM
4 Seems like we may need to be ready to defend ourselves from god-disrespecting chiefs instead of cattle thieves. Also there have been a lot of references to a chaos thingy around, and we don't know if the guy from the other clan ever found the cultist he was looking for...
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 01, 2013, 04:04:49 AM
I've long suspected that Mosdorl has been replaced by Chaos spies. His advice here proves it. What have you done to our trickster you horrible abominations

Anyway, yeah, they need to prove it. 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on June 01, 2013, 05:32:31 AM
4. And then we watch them fail that and we can just go bash them again. :D
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on June 01, 2013, 06:44:33 AM
If you don't want to be our chew toys anymore, you better be able to prove your worth, guys! 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 02, 2013, 02:28:31 AM
... oops. Have a mini-update instead! Because we have another choice.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20043/kodp0435_zps80da7120.png~original)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 02, 2013, 02:41:40 AM
2 Given how often they die I don't know if they care about people.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 02, 2013, 06:13:18 PM
2, and if they break the peace, slaughter the cows, stick their heads on pikes, and beat the Elkenvali to death with our new weapons!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 02, 2013, 07:06:50 PM
Definitely want the cows. If they fuck it up, we claim 'em as wergild!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on June 02, 2013, 08:25:47 PM
2. Given what we have seen of the Elkenvali so far one of those guys isn't even worth a single cow.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 03, 2013, 12:11:06 AM
Oh damnit this event has too many questions I'm not predicting. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20043/kodp0435-2_zps9ed9d611.png~original)

(Though unlike yesterday-today I'm not working 'til late and then working early and long, so I can probably reasonably do another post late night if there's a decent number of likeminded votes in the meantime.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on June 03, 2013, 10:58:30 AM
Give them ALL OF YOUR COWS. (20 cows and 10 goods)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 03, 2013, 05:34:49 PM
We have their cows, right now would be a good time to scalp them.

Alas, probably some sacred rulings there prohibiting that...lessee...

15/16 Just to be arrogant and say "We better than you chumps."
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 03, 2013, 11:51:00 PM
GIVE THEM NOTHING They came crawling to us to lick our boots, and that experience is ALL they shall get for this!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 04, 2013, 12:12:17 AM
Fun fact: this exact event almost basically auto-lost me the game on a different playthrough of mine. (Though I think I actually don't want to spoil how! I will say I made a different choice than you all did on the main question.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20044/kodp044-01_zps056a32d1.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20044/kodp044-02_zps8f888c07.png~original)
UK missed the vote cutoff so I'm taking the spirit of Stein's suggestion with the ratio of Keegster's, it seemed like a nice compromise. :3 And hey it sounds like we're allowed to keep facerolling them anyway, but maybe it's worth turning someone else into our punching bag instead? Maybe I'm soft but I sorta want to leave them be after an overture of peace more in-depth than "stop killing us we'll give tribute. ;_;"

Well, we can figure that out between the next few updates, I'll leave raids be right now and we can punch some losers in Storm if you guys want to, be it the Elkenvali or someone else - Zethnorings are in pink with us and happen to also be the recipient of our rubble-runners so they're likely to escalate to feud even if we don't go raiding them, for example.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20044/kodp044-03_zps3fb8604f.png~original)
In the meantime, we could use some health blessings up in here. This was the one we needed most, yay! I'll put up a shrine to it next chance I get.

BUT SPEAKING OF RUBBLE-RUNNERS.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20044/kodp044-04_zpsa42766e2.png~original)
The dangerous rodents are back. The trickster magic you used against them lured them away, but did not prevent them from returning. They swarm to attack several of your horses, mauling one so badly that it must be destroyed. The also bite some of the old women and children. The people say that it is about time the clan ring did something about these loathsome creatures.

Choices are still the same as last time but I'm guessing you still want me to have Mosdorl lure them away so this vote is probably unnecessary. We'll consider this result a "what to do from now until the end of time" unless opinion seems to be against that.

1. Block the cave entrance.
2. Have Mosdorl lure them away with trickster magic.
3. Find outsiders to exterminate the creatures.
4. Order your weaponthanes to exterminate the creatures.
5. Shrug and go about your business.


We have different advice though!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) These lowly animals will afflict everyone if we don't get rid of them. (1, 3, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We need some kind of magic solution to this infestation. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Creatures like this are often companions to spirits of disease.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Why risk getting bitten ourselves, when we can find someone to do it for us? (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) The carls say they will do what they can to get rid of these abominations. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) See how quickly the Rubble-Runners breed, and how resilient they are? (anything but 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) We should send them over to the Zethnorings. They'll recognize them as their kin, I'm sure! (2)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 04, 2013, 12:24:22 AM
2 back to the Zenthrorings with them!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 04, 2013, 12:33:05 AM
Lure 'em away then block the cave, if we can.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 04, 2013, 02:40:14 AM
2, because imagining Mosdorl prancing along playing a fiddle while he's chased by these bitey things is hilarious.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 04, 2013, 11:23:17 AM
2 again. But if these things pop up one more time, we should bust out the flamethrower.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 04, 2013, 01:41:12 PM
2 again. But if these things pop up one more time, we should bust out the flamethrower.
Agreed. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 04, 2013, 11:43:48 PM
Define "flamethrower". :V

Anyway we ship them off to the Zethnorings just like last time and, I presume, like every future time we get these fuckers.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20045/kodp045-01_zps44310ade.png~original)
I put up a shrine for Curing to help deal with all our sick people (especially since Engarna popped up to whine about it as soon as I got out of the event).

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20045/kodp045-02_zps7e3d9f50.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20045/kodp045-03_zps02d461f6.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20045/kodp045-04_zpsebce4912.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20045/kodp045-05_zps4f842fb9.png~original)
And then we have a parade of defensive raids to water our crops with.

We actually do have a fair number of weaponthanes despite things now reading 12, we just have 4 sick and 4 wounded as well. If it's still low in the second month of Dark I'll re-hire before going raiding in Storm, but for now...

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20045/kodp045-06_zpsef03f8b2.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20045/kodp045-07_zpsbd2a7dd8.png~original)
Issaries is chill and I'll probably pop up a shrine in the first month of Dark for Silvertongue, but I forgot that Urox prefers goods to cows.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20045/kodp045-08_zpsab9ba6b8.png~original)
Urenstand, an accomplished holy warrior of Elmal, comes to your clan looking for your aid in a great heroquest. "Our people are cursed by fighting and dissension.  Hendriki fight Heortlanders. People in Dragon Pass squabble. Differences are more important than similarities. I wish to go to the realm of the gods, so that Orlanth may fight me. Then people will be loyal and united again. I need your magic to help me."

1. Do as Urenstand asks.
2. Recruit other clans to share the magical burden of support.
3. "We cannot help you, our magic is weak."
4. "We cannot help you; it is too risky."
5. "Your idea is foolish, Urenstand."


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Although the people he seeks to unite are all Orlanthi, there are great differences between them. I do not think even a Heroquest can succeed here. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Our popularity is such that our neighbors would sooner follow the advice of a one-legged hop-toad. (anything but 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Supporting a heroquest is like joining a war; one must balance the possibility of great reward with the certainty of great risk.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Our magic is strong. We can help him. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) If helping Urenstand robs us of our fertility for the year, we have enough stored food to get by. (anything but 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) He's come all this way. It would be wrong to refuse him. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Our fertility will remain strong no matter what you choose to do.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 04, 2013, 11:53:21 PM
2, the aim is to bring people together right? Not to mention we also don't have a very amazing track record with heroquests...

Actually will this be affected by our recent attempt/ hinder our future ones?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 04, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
2, the aim is to bring people together right? Not to mention we also don't have a very amazing track record with heroquests...

Actually will this be affected by our recent attempt/ hinder our future ones?

Yes to your first, as far as I can tell. No to your second.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 05, 2013, 12:20:48 AM
Well then, I'll change my vote to: "2, or 3 if other people think that's a good idea"
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 05, 2013, 12:34:55 AM
2 seems good. BRIBE THE MAN WITH CLAN SUPPORT
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on June 05, 2013, 04:04:00 AM
2. We shouldn't waste all our magic on something that might not be true.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 05, 2013, 01:00:18 PM
If it's not too much to ask, is there any point in doing anything else with our mousey friends?

Mercy did we ever get stomped in those raids.

Also 2 since we have some links to other clans and magic is a limited resource.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 05, 2013, 06:49:23 PM
If it's not too much to ask, is there any point in doing anything else with our mousey friends?

Not really, no. They've all only got a small chance of ending the infestation forever, and the trickster option has the least drawback.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 05, 2013, 06:59:19 PM
Wait, to stop the constant infighting between the clans he plans to go and get beaten up (or by some fluke of whatever beat) by their combined God... is he pulling a Watchmen here, or what?

Either way, at least our fertility won't be affected. 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 05, 2013, 11:14:55 PM
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Well at least he's probably not pissed at us. Also whatever, he's some random jackass.

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Everything suuuuuuuuuucked but we have tons of spare food anyway.

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A dragonewt appears at your boundaries and demands the return of his old body. "You have something of mine," it hisses, "My old body. Come here to recover it. Give now - both of us avoid entanglement."

1. Attack the dragonewt
2. Offer it compensation instead of the body.
3. "We don't have your body."
4. "We have it, but we're not going to give it to you."
5. Let the dragonewt have its old body.
6. Insist that it compensate you for the body.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) How would we feel if we learned that the dragonewts were desecrating the corpses of our kin? (3, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We might beat a lone dragonewt. But then other dragonewts might come and... well, remember what happened in the Dragonkill War. (3, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) We owe no obligations to those who do not follow our laws - especially inhuman ones. (3, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Our magic is weak compared to the dragonewt's. (3, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Is it a man or a woman? I can't tell.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Tell it that we gave it to the Mule Deers. That'll show them. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on June 05, 2013, 11:24:58 PM
Tell it that we gave it to the Mule Deers. That'll show them. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 05, 2013, 11:46:37 PM
3 Mosdorl has the right idea.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 06, 2013, 02:57:22 AM
Didn't we cut it up and fail to make anything out of it?  He wants the junk he can have it.  5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 06, 2013, 03:19:51 AM
Didn't we cut it up and fail to make anything out of it?

Yep. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 06, 2013, 11:33:17 AM
5, hopefully this won't backfire. :/
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 06, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
3. We didn't do it, offisah. We sweahs it was our bruddah. We was worshippin' da body an' givin' it a pedicuah when dat dirty rubble runnah makes off wid it! He's pals wid dem Zethnorings. Yahs can ask dem abaht it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 06, 2013, 08:08:21 PM
1

You eat our kinfolk, we rock your face. Now and forever.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 06, 2013, 11:32:18 PM
By a hair, we've chosen to pick the not-totally-lying option (since we did kinda mangle it >_>) of saying we don't have his body.

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... apparently a mangled body's still enough of a body, and we kept it anyway for some reason.

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So yeah, dude can have it.

And we don't get a break before another event pops up!

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A trickster from the Blue Spruce clan comes to deride you. He has a couple warriors from his clan with him to discourage you from attacking him. "I hear your heroquesters can't buckle their braces correctly, let alone enter the god-plane!" He scoffs, "You are clumsy, foolish oafs, aren't you?" He capers about, doing a little dance and drooling on his tunic. "Well, in exchange for something valuable I will bless you with trickster magic, so that you will not be so laughably incompetent next time you quest!" He wants goods worth at least ten cows in exchange for Eurmal's blessing.

1. Attack him.
2. Demand an apology.
3. Haggle over the price.
4. Politely decline his offer.
5. Rudely decline his offer.
6. Take him up on his offer.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) A trickster is a natural outlaw, unless he has the protection of a clan chief. This fellow is, of course, protected by the Blue Spruce chief. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Better stop at rudeness. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Tricksters have powerful magic. (6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) I can convince him to better that price. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Isn't that just like a man? (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) The people are offended by his mockery. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Me! Me! I am the only trickster you should trust. (5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 06, 2013, 11:41:30 PM
5. Mosdorl is quite enough trickster, thanks!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 06, 2013, 11:41:53 PM
I'd also like to take a moment to point out that while effectively the case for the sake of gameplay abstraction in KoDP, Iskalli's statement isn't strictly true according to other setting materials - the important fact in binding a Trickster is worshipping Orlanth and usually also still having a fair amount of social power, not being a chief. E.g. for us, it'd probably be Orlgard, not Iskalli, that Mosdorl would serve except for the fact that you won't always get generated Orlanth-worshipping nobles but you will always have a chief.

Also, there's a few other roles a Trickster can be put into to serve a similar purpose without bringing him under anyone's personal responsibility... but they're all pretty miserable and the way we see Tricksters in KoDP is really the better version of the deal here.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 07, 2013, 01:29:50 AM
5, we have Mosdorl, and he's trickster enough for me.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 07, 2013, 02:39:51 AM
5

EPIC RAP BATTLES OF TRICKSTORY!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 07, 2013, 07:28:26 PM
I am really disappointed we can't send out Mosdorl to style all over him.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 08, 2013, 01:05:54 AM
I am really disappointed we can't send out Mosdorl to style all over him.
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elder berries!

5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 08, 2013, 01:39:17 AM
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Yeah well screw you too buddy.

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Pop up that Silvertongue shrine...

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... and, as promised, recruit a zillion weaponthanes because it's the second month of Dark and they're all still bumming around with the sniffles.

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A heavily armed delegation from the Colymar tribe comes to your tula to demand tribute from you. "We have a tribe, and you are just a clan," says Kentvent, one of the nobles. "We are strong, and you are weak. Give us 12 cows."

1. Attack them.
2. Offer them a different amount.
(Propose a number if you vote for this please.)
3. Pay them.
4. Petition them for membership in their tribe.
5. Refuse them.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We have yet to make a reputation for great deeds and wise leadership; they will reject us if we ask to join them. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We'd be lucky to drive off this delegation, let alone a full Colymar raiding party. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) The Colymar were a tribe in Dragon Pass before we even left the Holy Country.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) If we pay tribute to them now, they will come back again and again. Each time they will increase the amount they demand. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) The Colymar is not worth joining, for they are ruled by foolish men. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) If you can't beat them, join them. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) If we pay tribute to them now, they will come back again to ask for more. (5)

Harsaltar's correct - there is one established tribe at the beginning of the game, and they're also even always named the Colymar. :3 Otherwise no one actually forms tribes until after we do. :V

I think canonically setting-wise their king is actually the one who does all of what we have to do to win KoDP?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 08, 2013, 01:51:35 AM
5 Mosdorl's got the right idea again. We'll show those fuckers WEAK
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 08, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
Aaaand we're boned...

Well in for a bone, in for a a battlefield of rotten corpses.

5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on June 08, 2013, 05:18:26 AM
5. Screw you guys, we are friends with the ducks!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 08, 2013, 03:09:13 PM
I hate saying it but our lead warrior thinks they'll stomp us.  [3]
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on June 08, 2013, 10:55:12 PM
It's only 12 cows, let's hand it over to buy some time. The next time they come knocking we'll have a pile of weaponthanes ready for them. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 09, 2013, 01:11:38 AM
5

I just hate arrogant authority with such unbridled fury.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 09, 2013, 02:43:52 AM
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Bye dude.

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No one had an opinion on who to raid last time I asked* and I am soft-hearted enough to want to give the Elkenvali at least a short break after that genuine (or at least seemingly so) overture of peace a few seasons back, so let's try the Zethnorings on for size.

*Yeah, everyone said the Elkenvali back at Sacred Time, but that was before the peace parley. Admittedly I didn't call formally for a vote or anything when I asked though :V

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... I forgot to take a shot of the start-of-raid screen? We were fighting something like 13 weaponthanes and 60- or 70-some regular dudes, I spent no extra magic and did plunder + charge. But heeeeeeeeeey I like that result, let's do it again.

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I'm not sure I've actually seen this particular battle event (and a lot of the ones I have seen depend highly on the skills of the person that popped with them), but there's a fairly similar one that comes up with a fair bit of frequency against Horse-Spawn and charging straight away is basically always the right answer there. Seems like it was a good one here too!

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\o/

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WELP.

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WELP X2 COMBO.

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Engarna popped up to qq, too many sick/injured farmers. I'll go on a recruiting spree early next year (especially if I don't have to change crop setup, but I probably will since high rye this past year for poor harvest omen). Also this, but I'm pretty sure this is a thing that the shrine I just put up last season will help with.

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... "and 1 more sheep". For some reason that really amuses me.

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Hey guess what time it is. I wouldn't mind another attempt at heroquesting if y'all want, we haven't learned any others since two years ago since I haven't truly gone on a sacrificing spree or anything (though I did do a fair bit I guess - there's mostly just specific blessings I'm aiming for yet, a lot of which are from gods who don't have quests).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 09, 2013, 02:48:35 AM
Yeah I think we need to get more mans.  And not just fighting mans, working mans.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on June 09, 2013, 03:24:39 AM
Heroquest would be a good idea, we need some kind of edge to stop the Colymar from ripping us up like they did there (though I'm amazed we succeeded at stopping them from getting anything out of it).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 09, 2013, 03:34:58 AM
(though I'm amazed we succeeded at stopping them from getting anything out of it).

Sometimes Arengee smiles upon us. (Doubly so since survive + evade actually leaves them with a better chance of taking shit, since we're kinda more worried about, well, living.)

Fun fact: I once got the Colymar asking for tribute as the very first event of the game in a playthrough. And made the same choice as you all did because I was genuinely afraid of being unable to afford the tribute later on.  ... and then did survive + evade the first time they came to wreck my shit AND WON WITHOUT A SCRATCH. (I was not so lucky on future visits and just scrapped that run, though we've got a lot more of a base to work from here so we might pull through OK, though I have no idea how this plays out in the long run.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 09, 2013, 04:00:14 AM
Let's continue beating up Zenthorings. But the Elkenvali shall have their death. Also Heroquesting. Can we both raid and quest?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 09, 2013, 04:16:43 AM
Let's continue beating up Zenthorings. But the Elkenvali shall have their death. Also Heroquesting. Can we both raid and quest?

Yeah we've got plenty of time, since quest is likely to be in Storm (since I still ain't doing Elmal Guards the Stead) and the primary raid season is Fire. I only held off 'til Storm this year to give time for opinions on targets after that whole parley thing happened.

I mean it's possible we might want to take a break from raiding anyway? But not explicitly for the sake of questing.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 09, 2013, 03:08:41 PM
Heroquesting sounds good, yes.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 09, 2013, 05:43:52 PM
Quote
So the Colymar scum kicked our asses,
Fine! Better to die on our feet than live on our knees! Er, I mean, 'whoops' or something.

Recoup losses and let's try the heroquest stuff since it seems to be something we haven't covered/had success with as much as other things.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 09, 2013, 11:51:03 PM
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Wish I could put some magic into Trade or perhaps even Health (because omen), but need to save some for quest time. ... I don't get a chance to do anything else yet. :V

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Led by Arene, a respected carl, the women of the clan reproach the ring for costly blunders. Battles and raids, even victorious raids, have killed so many husbands and sons that the women do not know how they will raise their families. "We have taken care of our homes and our fields. You have not taken care of our husbands," says Arene. "If things do not improve, we may have to return to our original clans, much as we hate that idea.

1. Arrange suitable marriages with surviving bachelors.
2. Ask the women to be patient.
3. Authorize women to temporarily form joint households.
4. "Just be thankful that we've kept you and your children safe."
5. Send Sartark to the Holy Country seeking former kinsmen.
6. Sponsor a Marriage Contest to draw men from other clans.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) The precedents are ambiguous, but that means we can support several possible solutions. (1, 5, 6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Arene is insolent and deserves no respect. But I admit that treating her as she deserves won't solve our problem. (1, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) More visitors would increas the number of worshippers at our temples. (6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) We do have relatives in the Holy Country. It's a long trip.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) It's true. Our women deserve better. We must take them seriously. (1, 3, 5, 6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Fresh blood wouldn't hurt. (6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) This isn't a problem. this is an opportunity!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 10, 2013, 12:57:50 AM
3 STATE SPONSORED CIVIL UNIONS GOOOOOOOOOO~
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 10, 2013, 05:06:50 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and just believe that Mosdorl's line means he's wearing his yuri goggles very tightly.

3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 10, 2013, 08:17:19 AM
Oh Mosdorl-kun~

3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 10, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
Oh, Mosdorl, that's so you *laugh track*

3 sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 11, 2013, 12:28:24 AM
6, let us attract all the hopeless young men of the land!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 11, 2013, 12:45:05 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20051/kodp051-01_zps46725395.png~original)
Civil unions for... well, for straight ladies, oops.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20051/kodp051-02_zps74d15dc5.png~original)
It's OK we're recruiting more people, some of them are probably single dudes.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20051/kodp051-03_zps1e897fdb.png~original)
Iskalli, we can diplo when we have people to not get facerolled.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20051/kodp051-04_zps42f6e0e1.png~original)
One of your weaponthanes, Brandig, appears before the clan and recounts an incident that occured back in the Holy Country, before the migration to Dragon Pass. "When I was just a child, my father Korlmar, a weaponthane of this clan, was seized by Yorsar and Frithorf, then of the Zethnos clan. They threw him upon a bonfire, and would not let him off it, until he had burned to the bones. Long have I given up hope of vengeance against these two killers. But now I hear they are here in Dragon Pass; they have been adopted by the Taralings. Although they are now old, they must pay for what they have done while they were young."

1. Allow Brandig to pursue private vengeance against them.
2. Demand wergild for the slaying of Brandig's father.
3. Launch a raid against the Taralings.
(IT'S SEA SEASON)
4. Tell Brandig that it is not the right time for vengeance.
5. Tell the Taralings to outlaw the men.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We have no case against the Taralings; the killings took place when the men belonged to a far-distant clan. If Brandig kills them, they will have a case against us. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) If we raid the Taralings, Brandig can avenge his father on the battlefield. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) If they pay us wergild, we can add a silver inlay to the altar of our temples. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Brandig will keep asking until we satisfy him - or he may take matters into his own hands, no matter what we say. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Tell Brandig not to raise this matter during planting time! Or tell him to take care of it himself. (1, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Living cows are more useful than dead enemies. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) In the sagas, personal grudges often turn into full-fledged feuds between clans.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 11, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
Iskalli's got a point, plus 1v2 doesn't seem like it'd end well for Brandig. 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 11, 2013, 12:52:05 AM
1. Sounds like a personal problem :|
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 11, 2013, 12:55:16 AM
2 or 5, Iskalli is right, but I'd like to see some sort of action taken against these men. Preferably 2, because wergild is an awesome custom.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 11, 2013, 04:08:03 AM
2

Wergild exists to settle shit like this.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on June 11, 2013, 07:22:33 AM
2. VENGEANCE!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 11, 2013, 12:11:01 PM
Hmmmmm 2 I guess. Seems to be the least clumsy option.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 11, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
4 We can raid them later.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 11, 2013, 05:17:42 PM
4 We can raid them later.

Important note: only the (free) raid(s) you get off this event will count for this, though he'll keep whining at us every so often until it's resolved in some form or another.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 11, 2013, 11:38:09 PM
Important note: only the (free) raid(s) you get off this event will count for this, though he'll keep whining at us every so often until it's resolved in some form or another.
Yeah.  By later I meant when we have people alive to raid with. >.<
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 11, 2013, 11:43:41 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20052/kodp052-01_zps3a1f165c.png~original)
Iskalli warned you about lawsuits bro. Now it will keep happening. :V

blah blah crop ratios and tweaking the land allotments while I'm there (apparently the latter is the only part that costs a turn though), no one cares but I gotta do it.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20052/kodp052-02_zps4b041ff8.png~original)
Dudes! \o/

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But but but we need our magic for queeeeeeeests.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20052/kodp052-04_zpsa42023b1.png~original)
owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20052/kodp052-05_zps572a2bf0.png~original)
... WE HAVE ONE WEAPONTHANE. But we also need all the dudes we can get, period, even just regular soldiers, so trying to bring in outsiders...

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20052/kodp052-06_zpsfcd3bfd0.png~original)
FUCKING RECRUITMENT GOT US THREE DUDES.

A husband and wife from another clan come to offer us a treasure they say they found while exploring out in the woods. The treasure is a torc of honor, which would win us the admiration of others. They want goods worth forty cows in exchange for the treasure.

1. Decline their offer
2. Pay them what they ask.
3. Take the treasure from them.
4. Threaten them into revealing who they stole the treasure from.
5. Try to haggle their price down.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We must find who they stole the treasure from, and return it to them. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We could easily take them. A chipmunk could easily take them. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) This is a useful magical treasure. (2) (Yeah it probably is but we need goods to buy warriorsssssssss.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) The price they ask is fair, but I sense they wish to quickly dispose of their goods. They will settle for less. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) We can easily take them. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) It would be unseemly to haggle. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) It's stolen, which means we can steal it from them. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jana on June 11, 2013, 11:46:49 PM
Even Enerin wants to gank them, holy moly. I'd say 4 though, we really don't need to make new enemies.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on June 11, 2013, 11:48:59 PM
Mosdorl status: still the best.  3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 12, 2013, 12:14:56 AM
4


Also, I like how Wergild, a system designed to keep perpetuate vengeance cycles from happening, never ever actually works.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 12, 2013, 01:40:08 AM
Yeah 4 sounds good.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 12, 2013, 03:59:36 AM
Why not 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 12, 2013, 12:12:16 PM
Jiminy H. Pogostick for Christmas, I would've been a bit more OK with giving the Polymers a dozen withered and diseased old cows wearing signs saying "YOU --->" pointing to their backsides if there was any indication that these guys were armed with what would seem to be tank technology based on the raid result numbers.

Anyway, 4. Two people offering something to us out of the ether is weird. If another clan was interested in trade, they would've sent representatives. These two seem like they're trying to dodge their old clan, whether it's for a good reason or bad.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 12, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
Holy hell we're being absolutely crushed by that tribe
Is there anything we can do to make them stop?

Anyway, yeah, we don't need more people pissed at us. 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 12, 2013, 06:21:31 PM
Holy hell we're being absolutely crushed by that tribe
Is there anything we can do to make them stop?

Not told them to go fuck themselves in the first place? :V

(Seriously I have no idea, like I said the only time I'd gotten it before was on the first damn turn at which point it was *very* much a scrap and restart.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on June 12, 2013, 09:12:24 PM
We're pretty much fucked. :colonveeplusalpha:

They clearly stated that they were a tribe and we were just a clan, of course they have a bazillion more dudes than us. I wish you guys had thought that through a little more.

Arashi, are you keeping older saves by any chance or are we just going to have to start over completely? Or will they eventually approach us again and offer to stop in exchange for tribute?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 12, 2013, 10:34:49 PM
Arashi, are you keeping older saves by any chance or are we just going to have to start over completely? Or will they eventually approach us again and offer to stop in exchange for tribute?

I have zero clue about the latter but
I have a savestate backed up during the tribute-demand event
.
Also actual game saves from every Sacred Time except I forgot to save during the most recent, but that was actually after we fucked up anyway.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 12, 2013, 11:15:39 PM
We're pretty much fucked. :colonveeplusalpha:

They clearly stated that they were a tribe and we were just a clan, of course they have a bazillion more dudes than us. I wish you guys had thought that through a little more.

Arashi, are you keeping older saves by any chance or are we just going to have to start over completely? Or will they eventually approach us again and offer to stop in exchange for tribute?

I w-was hoping that by telling them to fuck off they'd respect our chutzpah ;_;.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 12, 2013, 11:54:42 PM
My best guess, though, is that after they pummel us for long enough they'll try asking for tribute again? I'm just not at all confident about that. In the meantime just gotta stay on the recruitment treadmill I guess.

But oh hey I guess it makes sense that the choice we made leads into another, but I wouldn't have known who the other clan involved was until after actually taking the vote's choice and I didn't know what the actual options are anyway. So!

They admitted that they'd taken it from a bandit, who in turn had taken it from the Jenstali.

1. Take it from them.
2. Pay them for it.
3. Send them on their way.


I assume that if we select 1 or 2 we will then have an option on whether to keep it ourselves or return it to the Jenstali, so give your vote on that if you choose either of those options. Better to not drag shit out with choices within choices tooooooooo much. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 12, 2013, 11:56:20 PM
2 Pay them for it, they did take it from a bandit so it's kind of like paying them reward money, and then Return to Jenstali, they might give us moneys.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 13, 2013, 01:01:44 AM
2.  And return it if we're friendly/Neutral to the Jenstali.  If we don't like em keep it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 13, 2013, 01:59:02 AM
2.  And return it if we're friendly/Neutral to the Jenstali.  If we don't like em keep it.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 13, 2013, 02:42:19 AM
1 Murder them, then take whatever freaking reward money or help or whatever we can get from the Jestali! Unless there is a way to first check what the shiny thing does, and if it'd help us more than some chumps of another place, then keep it.

Screw morals, we at war! We gone die! let's die drowning in blood! Preferably everybody else's of course.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 13, 2013, 03:02:18 AM
Unless there is a way to first check what the shiny thing does

The treasure is a torc of honor, which would win us the admiration of others.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 13, 2013, 06:09:35 PM
2 and return it. Returning the torc of honor will win us the admiration of the Jenstali.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 13, 2013, 11:43:55 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20053/kodp053-01_zps65a89e79.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20053/kodp053-02_zpsfa813dba.png~original)
... oops. More choices. I just wanna keep this moving so I'm going with "we need our damn goods for weaponthanes" and haggle. Y'all did want it though, so I'll take their lowest offer even though it's not much lower.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20053/kodp053-03_zps15b99358.png~original)
Welp, we don't get a choice on that part though. :V I think we need all the bonuses we can get on how much people like us right now though so I don't mind, and maybe we can sell it back to them later once we get a chance?

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20053/kodp053-04_zpsbfdec067.png~original)
Not comfortable hiring quite up to max because we do need to keep a little bit of goods around, but we can get pretty good.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20053/kodp053-05_zps23ffb8d1.png~original)
Not you fuckers too. >=|

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20053/kodp053-06_zpsd3e08eec.png~original)
Stop it. ;_;

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20053/kodp053-07_zpsa28ea683.png~original)
Ernalda priestesses from the Jenstali clan come to demand the return of the Torc of Honor. "The spirits of our ancestors have been sniffing for it, and their sniffing led them to this tula. We do not know if you stole it yourselves, or if you innocently bought it from the thieves. It does not matter. What matters is that this treasure is part of our clan regalia, and we want it back."

1. Give it back.
2. Give it to them, but only in exchange for something.
3. "Let's have a contest of magic, and see if the gods want you to have it."
4. Offer them compensation instead.
5. Refuse them.
6. Tell them we no longer have it.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We knew that it was stolen. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Ernalda priestesses are supposed to be peaceful, so they're no threat to us. (5) (Orlgard, have you listened to a word of Enerin's advice ever?)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Ernalda made gold, and it turned everyone greedy.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) The value of this treasure is forty cows, but our right to it is in doubt. Ask for eleven cows. (2) (I assume he actually means "cows' worth of goods" but yeah)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) They could curse us if we don't act virtuously. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Doing anything other than handing it over will worsen our relations with the Jenstali.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Let's say we don't have it. That way, they will look all over Dragon Pass for it, and we will have time to trade it for something better. (6)

Oh so that's how we deal with the later question. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 13, 2013, 11:47:20 PM
1 Give it back as planned.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 14, 2013, 12:32:25 AM
Soon the only males in our clan will be the ring dudes, seeing how much people we're losing to raids ._.

Anyway, 1, 'tis what we were planning on doing anyway.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 14, 2013, 12:44:55 AM
1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 14, 2013, 11:39:48 AM
1

Howdy ha, neighborinas! That's mighty big scythe you've got there, miss. This event is actually redundant because we was expecting to return it to you anyhow whereupon you would welcome us as heroes. Wouldja be so kind as to put the weapons away now?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 14, 2013, 05:02:28 PM
Those ladies be badass.

An I suppose we should do the right thing... bleeeeegh...

1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 14, 2013, 11:14:44 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20054/kodp054-01_zps83f3b86a.png~original)
We may be broke but we're broke and honest.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20054/kodp054-02_zps42a318c0.png~original)
ffffffffffffffff why can't I afford to sac to Chalana Arroy to learn Healing

or why didn't I do that way earlier

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20054/kodp054-03_zps05c2afb9.png~original)
Eh it's Earth season now so I think we're safe for a bit, let's go try selling and/or trading Blacktail again.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20054/kodp054-04_zps9837e517.png~original)
Everyone is gossiping about what happened a few hours ago. The young woman Eonislara was found out in the forest, making love with Korol, a notorious poet and troublemaking warrior of the Zethnoring clan. Korol left without a formal farewell. Eonislara is unmarried, so her actions are not an offense against the gods. But she is betrothed to Jorator, a young thane of the Blue Spruce clan, and the wedding is scheduled for next season.

1. End the betrothal.
2. Insist that Korol marry her.
3. Let marriage proceed as if nothing has happened.
4. Tell Jorator about the incident.
5. Tell Jorator, but urge him to continue with the wedding.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Eonislara has done nothing wrong; nor has the otherwise disreputable Korol. It would be absurd to marry her to him. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Jorator's clan is allied to ours. Korol's clan is on the cusp of a feud with us. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Korol has talked many of his hotheaded kinfolk out of unwise revenge. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) A marriage is like any other trade. You must tell your trading partner the facts, so he will not complain later. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) This is juicy gossip, but we need to harvest our crops more than anything else right now. (3, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Eonislara is wise. It is good to have a point of comparison before accepting the yoke of marriage. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Korol's poetry is fine indeed. "More snakes live in the mountains than any old fool thinks."
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 14, 2013, 11:17:37 PM
5 seems legit, though I like Engarna's reasoning for 3 :P.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 14, 2013, 11:25:44 PM
Also, have some (http://moondesignpublications.com/new/courtship.html) resources (http://www.pensee.com/dunham/pdp/marriage.html) on marriage among the Orlanthi; the latter (yeah there's two links hiding there) is largely someone's homebrew mechanics for the tabletop game but the very end covers in brief the "seven types of marriage" mentioned in the former.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 14, 2013, 11:30:37 PM
Taking the resource post into account, 5. It wouldn't be too impossible for there to be two different types of marriages there.
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Post by: Iced Fairy on June 14, 2013, 11:41:01 PM
Hrm...  Eh 5.  Apparently the guy doesn't have a reason to complain, but if he does then we can give him the finger for being a jerk without issue.
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Post by: Keegster2 on June 15, 2013, 03:50:20 AM
5. Just because the person you're going to marry had sex with someone doesn't mean you should stop the wedding!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 15, 2013, 10:21:13 PM
A poet's tongue can drop clothes faster than any blade could. But yeah, really, juicy gossip. Not about her though, I mean look at the fellow run there. That is glorious material right there!

As for the actual act... yeah, big whoop, so she rolled in the hay with some silver tongued fellow from over there. I say let them have had their fun. 3 or 5.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 16, 2013, 02:57:53 PM
5.

I anticipate another feud, a murder or invasion, and wergild failing to do anything.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 17, 2013, 01:15:33 AM
Worked late yesterday then early today and had to go to Dad's for Father's Day. Might manage an update later tonight but no promises; tomorrow 100% guaranteed but mildly late.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 18, 2013, 03:20:08 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20055/kodp055-01_zps05f21ee6.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20055/kodp055-02_zps44fc4902.png~original)
NO WE ARE NOT RAIDING IN EARTH SEASON when our food surplus isn't that ridiculous (it is fairly decent though) and the target would be our allies and also we have an entire tribe to deal with. I'm not even putting that up for a vote. I don't care if it makes our clan sad.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20055/kodp055-03_zps5296bd2d.png~original)
Come get slaughtered by the Colymar, we'll give you sheep!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20055/kodp055-04_zps202dd80d.png~original)
summary: Kulbrast showed up to our trade target with Blacktail, the Rakstanti have the Hate Torch: "An ever-burning magic torch that grants certain clan members cunning and strength."

1. Buy the Hate Torch we can't afford because we have 14 goods.
2. Fuck this shit.
3. Try to trade straight across again.
4. Sell Blacktail.


Advice: fuck idk most treasures are worth at least 50?

(I don't mean any of this event writeup in a half-assing sort of way even though maybe it sounds like it, I just mean seen one of these you've seen 'em all aside from the specific treasure they've got.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 18, 2013, 03:38:06 AM
3 seems good,let's get rid of that damn bull.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 18, 2013, 05:39:52 AM
4

Let's try to get something out of the cow while we can. I don't trust 3, it looked at me with funny eyes. I never knew eyes could know such hilarious jokes.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on June 18, 2013, 06:10:47 AM
3 or 4, whichever seems more promising. Ideally we get rid of the bull and get the other treasure, even if it turns out it doesn't do much for us it at least won't just keel over before we can sell/trade it again.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on June 18, 2013, 09:01:21 PM
Let's try to dump Blacktail while we can, frankly at the moment we need goods as much as we need treasures. 4
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Post by: Sagus on June 18, 2013, 11:43:24 PM
Gods know we need the goods. 4
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 18, 2013, 11:59:18 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20056/kodp056-01_zpscf0eabe5.png~original)
FUCK HAGGLING WE NEED CASH so I just take it. Blacktail's probably gonna keel over soon anyway, less than most treasures' worth is probably fair. :V

blah blah harvest was normal, also we got 78 cottars with 88 kids (toooooooooo many kids but I need dudes too badly to not take every recruitment option).

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20056/kodp056-02_zpsfeb994d6.png~original)
noooooooooooo I need Healing.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20056/kodp056-03_zpsd5c995ee.png~original)
Fantarl, the young child of carls Ferena and Jarandar, disappears from their stead. A search finds his unconscious body out in the bush. He has two puncture wounds on his neck, and has lost a great deal of blood. The people are afraid that a vampire is loose in the area.

1. Conduct a ritual to protect Fantarl from vampire magic.
2. Do nothing.
3. Sacrifice to Humakt for protection from undead.
4. Sacrifice to Urox for protection from chaos.
5. Send warriors to hunt the vampire.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Cure the boy first, or the people will be afraid of what he might become. Then, go after the vampire. (1, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) If the vampire preys on little boys, it shouldn't be able to stand against true warriors - if we find it. we must send only a few weaponthanes, so that it does not sense our approach. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) We must perform a preventive ritual for the boy, then we can think what to do about the vampire. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Both Urox and Humakt despise vampires, because they are undead creatures of Chaos. (3, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Vampires serve the Chaos god Vivamort, who teaches them to infect others with their unliving magic. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Some say vampires are undead; some say they are Chaos creatures. (3, 4) (Well they aren't mutually exclusive.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) They say vampires are hard to track. If this one preys on little boys, it shouldn't be able to stand against true warriors - if we find it. (5)

In cast it would affect your vote, note that Humakt's favored sacrifice is cattle and Urox's is goods. (Hell if nothing else I could usually use the reminder. :V) Also, there's a reason I didn't take away the text box on the event screenshot this time... I wanted to surprise you with this after:
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20056/kodp056-04_zps7e16a8e2.png~original)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on June 19, 2013, 12:38:09 AM
1, then 3. The last thing we need is more Thanes getting fucked up.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 19, 2013, 01:24:48 AM
1 and 3 also.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 19, 2013, 02:17:58 AM
1.

We don't need two of the bastards.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 19, 2013, 02:49:42 AM
1 and 3 seems best.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on June 19, 2013, 03:11:56 AM
1. PROTECT EVERYONE FROM THE TWILIGHT!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 19, 2013, 05:22:48 AM
1 and 5.  Unless sacrificing brings us a Belmont, we need to kill that sucker.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 19, 2013, 01:48:45 PM
1 and 3 also.
Save the poor kid! First hickey he gets comes from a vampire?! Poor guy.

I'd go for CLEANSE AND PURGE option but I wager a more surefire method of protection would be best. Can we send him to the Colymars/Polymers/Colanders?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 19, 2013, 03:12:44 PM
1 and 5. Unless the blessing kills the damn thing, we'll probably have to deal with it again.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 19, 2013, 11:03:16 PM
1, then 3 Cattle appears to be our most expendable resource right now.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 19, 2013, 11:45:18 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-01_zps1c867809.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-02_zps15c7d173.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-03_zps3a771f32.png~original)
I guess I should have sacced more cows but eh. We'll probably be fine.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-04_zps92f0dad4.png~original)
;_;

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-05_zps6ca06ce0.png~original)
TRY TO HEROQUEST TIME even though the anti-Cullen ritual and the sacrifice ate two of our precious magic :ohdear:

The Blue Spruces only sent 10 dudes; I picked to increase our rep since that's what we wanted to do the time we failed to even get in.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-06_zpsdb4b888a.png~original)
Orlgard enters the realm of the gods, where he begins to feel the restlessness of Orlanth, because the Emperor is strong and denies Orlanth's proper place in the world. Ernalda tells Orlgard that the Emperor's advantage over Orlanth is his tribe; if he is to challenge the Emperor, Orlgard must also make a tribe. Orlgard goes wandering, considering her words, until the Doubting Wheel rolls up. It tells Orlgard not to make a tribe. "If you put yourself above all the others, you will be just as bad as the Emperor. The people will expect you to tell them what to do, and in doing so they will steal your own freedom, which is the thing you value most."

1. Catch the Doubting Wheel in a net.
2. Go find Yinkin.
3. "I will catch you, and my wife will make you into soup."
4. "I will not be bad like the Emperor, for freedom is my essence."
5. Leave the realm of the gods.
6. Pound the Doubting Wheel with a fist.
7. Roll the Doubting Wheel away.
8. "You cannot stop the Storm Tribe, just as you cannot stop a storm."


SUCCESS! \o/ Anyway, the myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_making_of_the_storm_tribe_zps4f024748.png) may be of aid in your choice.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 20, 2013, 12:12:48 AM
My historical resources say that we should go with 1.

Because everybody knows that net beats wheel.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 20, 2013, 12:15:05 AM
Looks like we have two good choices.  But I say 1.  Actions speak louder then words.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 20, 2013, 04:13:05 AM
1.

Wheels are tasty.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 20, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-07_zpsd697114e.png~original)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-08_zps4d51310b.png~original)
So Orlgard wanders again, until he finds Yinkin, who is head of the Cat Clan. Yinkin says, "My clan is badly pressed by the Plant Tribe, which fights us for our hunting ground. If you fight them and beat them, I will join your tribe." Orlgard faces the Plant Tribe champions, Rustling Veins and Sharp Green.

1. Fight both of them.
2. Fight Rustling Veins, let Yinkin fight the other.
3. Fight Sharp Green, let Yinkin fight the other.
4. Go find Lhankor Mhy.
5. Leave the realm of the gods.
6. "My new tribe will crush you if you do not retreat, plants!"


The myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_making_of_the_storm_tribe_zps4f024748.png) may be of aid in your choice.

Also that plant totally looks like a Lavos Spawn.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 20, 2013, 11:46:02 PM
1 Kick all the asses.
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 20, 2013, 11:47:37 PM
1 >Punch Plants in the snout to establish dominance
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 21, 2013, 12:03:09 AM
Time to go heavy metal on them. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 21, 2013, 03:09:59 AM
Aww, man. Those plant things look so cool. Can't we have a tribe populated only by plant things?

Anyway. Myths said he fought both of them, so 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 21, 2013, 07:48:00 PM
In related news, KoDP is currently A DOLLAR FUCKING FIFTY on GOG (http://www.gog.com/gamecard/king_of_dragon_pass).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 22, 2013, 02:18:57 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-09_zps2afc1ab1.png~original)
Orlgard, suck less at Combat. >=| At least this time we got at least somewhat of a taste of godLARP.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-10_zpse77f1573.png~original)
Rubble-runners, trickster magic --> Zethnorings. You know the drill.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20057/kodp057-11_zps75a79e17.png~original)
And oh hey this douchebag came back during a non-farming season!

1. Let dude take care of shit himself
2. Ask for wergild because that went so well last time
3. Raid the Taralings because at least this time we won't fuck up our crops.
4. Not now, Brandig.
5. Ask the Taralings to outlaw the assholes.


Ring advice is pretty much the same as last time.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 22, 2013, 02:23:13 AM
Do we have any data on the Taralings? Any way to tell how bad a raid would go?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 22, 2013, 02:26:30 AM
1 dammit, IT SOUNDS LIKE A PERSONAL PROBLEM
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Post by: Keegster2 on June 22, 2013, 12:19:28 PM
1. go beat 'em up yourself.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 23, 2013, 01:07:13 AM
5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 23, 2013, 02:08:25 AM
This is your problem dude. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on June 23, 2013, 02:19:38 AM
1. We can't do anything for him anyway, we're still in shitty shape thanks to the Colymar.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 23, 2013, 02:23:28 AM
I was gonna try to update tonight but sooooooooooooooo not feeling it after working all day. orz
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 24, 2013, 12:07:55 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20058/kodp085-01_zpsd878d8bb.png~original)

Soon, a Taraling delegation arrives, demanding wergild for the deaths of their two weaponthanes. They ask for forty cows*, the customary amount for two slain thanes.
(*note from me: pretty sure we pay this in goods despite the shortened phrasing.)

1. Agree to their demand.
2. Refuse their request.
3. Offer them twenty cows instead. Remind them that Brandig never received wergild for his father's death.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) They have more of a case against us than we did against them. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) The Taralings dislike us even more now; failure to pay wergild will bring us closer to a feud. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) In the sagas, full-fledged feuds between clans can continue many years.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Maybe I can talk them into settling for less. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) They have a case against us, but we also had a case against them.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) We can afford the werfild, if we want to pay it. (1, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) They have no real case against us. (2)

Oh hey it's a very rare sub-choice with its own advice! Sorry for such a short update after a day skipped, I genuinely wasn't expecting Brandig to not be a fuck-up (and forgot that we're in the last event before Sacred Time anyway, though I forget if being raided would happen after or before this event if it's gonna happen. I think after).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 24, 2013, 01:56:41 AM
THAT A BOY. See, this is how you handle personal problems. He didn't go whining about them on the internet, he got some dudes together and fucked some shit up!

3 seems good to smooth shit over.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 24, 2013, 03:45:39 AM
Holy mother of hell that was some hardcore vengeance.

Let's try 3. If it doesn't work, go for 1.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 24, 2013, 04:01:34 AM
Holy mother of hell that was some hardcore vengeance.

I mean to be fair it's exactly what the dudes did to his dad. :V
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Post by: Keegster2 on June 24, 2013, 04:21:15 AM
1 or 3. Might as well be nice.
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Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on June 24, 2013, 06:06:36 AM
3. As tempting as telling them to shut it sounds, might wanna try to at least be a little diplomatic.
Also we will have to note that "Do this yourself" apparently means "still drag our weaponthanes along with you >:|"
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 24, 2013, 08:20:10 AM
Wergild never works.

3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 24, 2013, 12:35:13 PM
I mean to be fair it's exactly what the dudes did to his dad. :V
Sho' 'nuff, but what ever happened to the art of swapping their powerpoint presentation images with Playboy scans, dipping their hand in warm water while they sleep, or just slashing their tires before they go out for poker night?

3. We should pay for Dramadig's barbeque, but him going crackers isn't our fault entirely. Pass the A1 please.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 24, 2013, 11:12:53 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20058/kodp058-02_zps7833b129.png~original)
OK FINE.

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On the bright side, they actually did take this in cows! (Generally yeah you'd rather hand over goods, goods don't make you food. We'd be nearly out of goods right now if we had to pay 40 though, and we've got shrines to maintain come Sacred Time.)

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Eonislara, whose betrothal to Jorator of the Blue Spruces was broken off after her seduction by Korol the Poet of the Zethnorings, is now pregnant. Eonislara is very happy, but her kinfolk see her pregnancy as a reminder of an embarrassing chain of events.

1. Encourage Jorator to marry her.
2. Encourage Korol to marry her.
3. Leave this matter to her kinfolk.
4. Scold Eonislara for being careless.
5. Scold her kinfolk for being unreasonable.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Eonislara has broken neither law nor custom. This is a private matter, and should remain so. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) It will be easier to force Korol into marrying her than to force Jorator. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) we should be worried about improving our temples instead. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) If we try to force a marriage, we will offend the unwilling groom's clan. (3, 4, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Good King Oskul was born outside the marriage bond.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Eonislara has not broken the law. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Eonislara's kin are being unreasonable. They need a good talking to. (5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 24, 2013, 11:28:18 PM
3 All these people with their PERSONAL PROBLEMS >.<! Seriously, she got knocked up by some dude in another clan, she can deal with it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jana on June 24, 2013, 11:30:10 PM
3 Seriously, why are they bugging us with this when we have raids to prepare for? ;-;
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Post by: Yaersulf on June 25, 2013, 12:58:47 AM
3, sounding suspiciously like a Civ II fmv advice dude there Harsaltar.
"My lord we need a military"
"No my liege, the people want entertainment"
I haven't needed entertainment for 1000s of years so don't question the immortal god-emperor you Elvis impersonating fool >:(
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on June 25, 2013, 01:56:00 AM
Maybe we should create a "Petty Problems Division" for the Circle and let them handle this shit :V.

Anyway, yeah, your problem, dudes. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 25, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
I'unno, I am actually leaning towards smacking the naysayers around a bit. They give her shit over this? The girl did what she felt like doing, let her have fun. She's even happy! 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 25, 2013, 02:16:19 AM
Upon FURTHER REFLECTION, Eonislara's personal problem is a serious issue for the clan :|

VOTE CHANGE TO 5, her gossipping kinfolk should be SCOLDED for wasting the ring's time with this nonsense. Inform them that such petty affairs are FAR BELOW the Ring's notice and that they should stop harrassing the poor girl!
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Post by: Iced Fairy on June 25, 2013, 02:57:49 AM
5  Seriously.  These idiots need to stop whining.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 25, 2013, 06:50:35 AM
3

Presumably this involves telling them to go screw.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 25, 2013, 11:43:44 AM
*Soft clarinet music*
On the next Kings and Queens of Drama Pass...

2. Give her the
ring.

Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 25, 2013, 11:40:22 PM
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Seriously you guys, deal with this stuff your own damn selves.

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At least it's not the Colymar?

Even sorely weakened, we still roll Elkenvali face. So there's that at least.

...and while writing that I forgot to actually screencap the results showing we roll Elkenvali face. Basically, we beat up like every guy they had with no harm to ourselves.

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It was a rough year but I think we got through it about as well as could be expected.

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So what's up next?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on June 26, 2013, 12:29:08 AM
If we put points in health, will our injured dudes get better faster?

EDIT: Yes it does. Get some of that.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 26, 2013, 01:52:16 AM
So I think the Elkenvali want killings again. So do the Zethnorings. Beyond that, yes to health and magic.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on June 26, 2013, 03:44:06 AM
We need dudes so we can kill other people's dudes.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 26, 2013, 04:01:22 AM
We're also kinda low on food, judging by how we ate ~460 more than we produced. If we have the magic to spare, stick a dot in crops, maybe?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 26, 2013, 04:11:51 AM
We're also kinda low on food, judging by how we ate ~460 more than we produced. If we have the magic to spare, stick a dot in crops, maybe?

We've normally been good but we've just got soooooooooooo many injured farmers.

Plus crops is literally the first thing I put points in and I always max it so this goes without saying. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 26, 2013, 11:41:43 AM
Jump on any heroquest stuff. Don't think we've managed to complete one yet, have we?
We've normally been good but we've just got soooooooooooo many injured farmers.
Is there a specific reason why? What can we do about it?

Also, if the Elkenvali are throwing 35 tired old soldiers at us, they don't seem to be much of a presence anymore, let alone a threat. If we're going to raid, maybe it would be more constructive to do so elsewhere.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 26, 2013, 03:11:22 PM
MORE FARMS. WE ARE GOING TO FUCKING STARVE.

Also, I am thinking we need to do something to up our status a bit.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 26, 2013, 07:27:02 PM
Jump on any heroquest stuff. Don't think we've managed to complete one yet, have we?
We haven't, but 1) we only know two and the other one we know is much harder - if our warleader can't pass the basically whole one Combat check in Storm Tribe, we sure ain't getting anyone through Elmal Guards the Stead, and 2) doing quests too frequently also hurts your chances of success, it's generally better not to do more than one every two years until fairly late (and then you can frequently get away with at least trying every year).

Quote
Is there a specific reason why? What can we do about it?
'Cause we kept getting beat up by the Colymar? Remember, Our weaponthanes aren't the only ones that fight, they're just the only ones dedicated to it. I can keep trying to learn Healing from Chalana Arroy and switch our shrine to it once we do to speed it, and put some points into Health this year, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 26, 2013, 11:47:35 PM
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Onward!

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Current events! Including Orlgard hitting Heroic comabt. AND YET HE'S STILL USELESS.

tweak land so we can make MOAR FOOD (but we're still limited by our cattle and farmers :() blah blah not even worth a screenshot

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Maybe Orlgard can find some more materials and make it worth the turn to switch some crafters to specialized goods.

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OK maybe he's not entirely useless. He still didn't actually find anything though.

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Garnath, a tall young warrior of the Narri, wishes to marry Beneva, daughter of the chief. He has come with Orstanor, the Narri lawspeaker, to help plead his case.

1. Approve the marriage.
2. "He must first prove himself worthy."
3. Let Beneva decide.
4. Refuse the marriage.
5. "Beneva's rank requires an additional marriage-gift of 20 cows.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We might be able to forge an alliance. I would be proud to have my daughter's marriage provide the spark. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) The marriage of a cheiftain's daughter has great political consequences. We'll be seen as eccentric if we let her decide. (1, 2, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) The Narri won't lame us if he can't prove himself worthy in a fair contest. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Although it is irregular, I can convince the bearded wordsmith to cough up additional trade gifts for a girl so fair as Beneva. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) It is customary to give a generous dowry when marrying off a girl of high rank. (1, 2, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) It is a bad time for a marriage. we can afford but a meager dowry. (4, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) It is Beneva who'll have to spend her life with this callow fop. Let her decide. (3)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 27, 2013, 12:07:39 AM
3 Mosdorl, why are you the sensible one? Like, for serious.
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Post by: Iced Fairy on June 27, 2013, 03:35:24 AM
2  From what I remember with the last lore dump, if you want to marry a woman you have to pass her tests.  No free pass for this dude.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 27, 2013, 11:53:22 AM
We haven't, but 1) we only know two and the other one we know is much harder - if our warleader can't pass the basically whole one Combat check in Storm Tribe, we sure ain't getting anyone through Elmal Guards the Stead, and 2) doing quests too frequently also hurts your chances of success, it's generally better not to do more than one every two years until fairly late (and then you can frequently get away with at least trying every year).
Fair enough. It's a gameplay mechanics thing.
'Cause we kept getting beat up by the Colymar? Remember, Our weaponthanes aren't the only ones that fight, they're just the only ones dedicated to it. I can keep trying to learn Healing from Chalana Arroy and switch our shrine to it once we do to speed it, and put some points into Health this year, but that's about it.
So all injured farmers are hurt in raids? Even with the last Colymar raid being just over a year ago? Eesh. Orlgard took quite some time to be back to fighting shape though.

2.  Permitting the marriage will be good for a positive diplomatic relationship. Making him prove himself will show that his motives are in the right place.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shadoweh on June 28, 2013, 01:05:28 AM
Are you sure Orlgard is really a heroic fighter? I mean.. it IS Mosdorl telling you this..
"Huh huh yeah he's uh, heroic! You should send him on another hero quest. And make him wear these pants. The poison ivy is for good luck!"
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 28, 2013, 02:15:07 AM
So all injured farmers are hurt in raids? Even with the last Colymar raid being just over a year ago? Eesh. Orlgard took quite some time to be back to fighting shape though.

Not all, necessarily, a little bit's not unusual normally - but we have like 160 injured farmers. That's raids speaking. :V

And oops! We get to pick what the contest of worthiness is a contest in.

1. Skill at arms
2. Poetry
3. Pig calling
4. Plowing
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Post by: Stuffman on June 28, 2013, 02:19:46 AM
2. Let's see if he can beat Sartark in a rap battle.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 28, 2013, 02:28:27 AM
2. Let's see if he can beat Sartark in a rap battle.

Actually, our best poet is Iskalli. :V It's Leadership + Custom! Or something like that.

Though I don't think the skill of our own [whatever]ers actually impacts the contest. But just for the joke's sake. :)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on June 28, 2013, 02:35:44 AM
So in other words, the noble with the best rapping skills gets to be the chief. Kickin' rad.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on June 28, 2013, 04:07:09 AM
I second Stuffs' choice of Epic Rap Battles of the Hierarchy.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 28, 2013, 04:54:40 AM
2 sounds good!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 28, 2013, 11:21:01 AM
In lieu of playin' the Dozens, 2.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 28, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
4

We need more farms before we fucking starve!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 29, 2013, 02:00:32 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20061/kodp061-01_zpsaef66aef.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20061/kodp061-02_zps2372e342.png~original)
I remember last time we had a feast our carls all whined at how many when I had 7. But 5 seems about right and we have another ally now!

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For reals!

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The Elkenvali are still hilariously weak even if we're kinda beat up ourselves, though. And y'all asked me to. So raid time!

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ahahahahahahahahaha chumps.

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Praxians are a bit scarier so I'm gonna toss a point of magic at this one.

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Respectable! (Though I belatedly realized since these guys aren't Orlanthi I should have gone for full-on slaughter to fuel our Earthblood. And our hate-on for Praxians.)

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MORE RAIDING.

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MORE VICTORY.

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2 carls of your clan failed to return from a pilgrimage to the Enhyli clan's temple of Uralda. A search party sent to find them has located them among the Greenwings, who have clearly taken them as thralls. Members of the search party report that the Greenwings were severely overworking the captured carls.

1. Buy the carls' freedom back.
2. Do nothing.
3. Recapture the carls in a raid.
4. Send for shamans to lay a curse on the Greenwings.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) A proper ransom would be 10 cows' worth of goods, or even cows. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We can recapture the carls. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) We should send for shamans to lay a curse on the Greenwings. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) The Greenwings were among the first to resettle this area. They have a repuration for being rough and somewhat crazy.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) The carls will be most unhappy if we do not recover their fellows. (1, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) The Greenwings were among the first to resettle this area.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Shamans don't lay curses. (not 4)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 29, 2013, 04:11:08 AM
3 sounds good. I think they've been asking for a fuck upping for awhile, haven't they?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 29, 2013, 08:55:25 AM
Does it look like we have the military might to fuck up some Greenwings?

Moreover, is it the right season for such? Because if these two conditions are met, I am down with giving them a crushing.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 29, 2013, 08:58:03 AM
Greenwing clan, incidentally, had the slavercrayfish lady. So punching them in the face is only morally correct.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 29, 2013, 09:34:32 AM
Seeing as it's still Fire, I'll say let's go: 3

We have a heroic duder. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on June 29, 2013, 11:24:47 AM
Even though they're neutral to us and we don't need much in the way of new foes, who needs a friend who lists kidnapping and forced labor as their hobbies? Considering what they're up to, 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3rGO2WhZGg).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on June 30, 2013, 01:38:12 AM
3, let's get our dudes back!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 30, 2013, 03:52:57 AM
Oh hey my screenshots weren't vanished! They were just hiding. I've replaced the previous update with the version I initially intended.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20062/kodp062-01_zps165ec06c.png~original)
Let's bring our new buddies along!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20062/kodp062-02_zps91988c07.png~original)
When you're raiding for specific reasons due to an event it sets your options accordingly, in this case Take Captives by which we mean our own guys back.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20062/kodp062-03_zpsae8090e6.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20062/kodp062-04_zps80f58b9f.png~original)
Oh fuck you assholes.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20062/kodp062-05_zpsb26a2da6.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20062/kodp062-06_zps700079a1.png~original)
cooooooows ;_; Everyone gets really pissy if you don't get your hostages back though.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20062/kodp062-07_zpsc95c78d5.png~original)
Maybe if we start calling in some favors (with a smallish gift too) we can get some more cows. The Rakstanti like us well enough, and they're close enough I'm going to chance sending Sartark along this time since he's a little better bargainer. We can also go beat up the Elkenvali more come Storm season. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20062/kodp062-08_zps645b2f70.png~original)
The Greenwings send word that two of the warriors you thought were killed during your recent raid on them are still alive. They send Ordag, a member of the Undaroli clan, to tell you that they are being held as hostages. They demand the customary ransom for two weaponthanes.

1. Let them keep the hostages.
2. Pay them the customary ransom of 20 cows.
3. Send our clan trader to negotiate a lower ransom.
(I am unsure whether this will let us pick or if it'll pick our best bargainer currently on the ring - the latter would suuuuuuck since our real trader's out. :V)
4. Send a small group to rescue hostages.
5. Send a small war party to take hostages from the Greenwings.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Although it is contrary to precedent, the Greenwings may feel justified in killing the hostages if we don't pay the ransom. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) I am confident that I can lead a successful war party. It will be easier to take Greenwing hostages than to recover our own. (5) (ARE YOU REALLY SURE DUDE)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) (is out getting us cows, there's like no way he doesn't want 3 anyway)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) I have nothing to add.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) As much as we might like to, we can't afford to pay ransom now. (1, 4, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Tell them if they do not release the hostages, I will come over and drool on their old women, in a way they do not wish to be drooled upon.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on June 30, 2013, 03:56:26 AM
MOSDORL. BAD TRICKSTER.

2; not much else we can do here.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on June 30, 2013, 05:00:40 AM
Bah, I guess we do want those weaponthanes alive and those damn crayfish seem to know their fighting, so 2.
I am very disappointed Mosdorl's proposal is not a real option though  >:(
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 30, 2013, 06:35:40 AM
I don't want to do 2 :|...but beating their face in thusly failed. THAT SAID, I believe they are NEW RAIDING CHUMPS in the future :|.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 30, 2013, 06:45:58 AM
I don't want to do 2 :|...but beating their face in thusly failed. THAT SAID, I believe they are NEW RAIDING CHUMPS in the future :|.

We already have two perfectly good raiding chumps who are actually our neighbors. And at least one of which is actually a chump. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 30, 2013, 06:06:51 PM
We already have two perfectly good raiding chumps who are actually our neighbors. And at least one of which is actually a chump. :V

Yes but this isn't about proximity, this is about JUSTICE!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on June 30, 2013, 11:12:23 PM
The ancestors didn't negotiate with terrorists and nor do we.

5 for lyfe.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 30, 2013, 11:33:42 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20063/kodp063-01_zps25c5d4d8.png~original)
need more cowsssssssss

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20063/kodp063-02_zpsf53a612b.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20063/kodp063-03_zps1707e48d.png~original)
This was probably a bad risk since he's only Good at combat, but honestly every other option in these mini-events sucks.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20063/kodp063-04_zpsd9bf41fa.png~original)
The carls, represented by Orlgandi, are up in arms. "The clan is always at war. This incessent raiding and counter-raiding is playing hell with the crops."

1. Give the chief complainers a cow apiece.
2. Persuade Orlgandi that he's mistaken.
3. Promise to curtail raids.
4. Promise to make peace with the Blue Jays.
(They're that distant feud we started with and haven't heard anything from since. :V)
5. Take the matter under advisement, then forget about it.
6. Upbraid Orlgandi for his foolishness.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) You could compensate them directly. They'll look churlish if they press the point. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We can't give out cows every time someone comes to complain. That rewards frivolous petitions.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Harmast Barefoot once said, "Swill to the carl is mead to the weaponthane."
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) (ow.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Orlgandi is right; we're losing more than we're gaining with these constant raids. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Have I mentioned lately how hard it is to keep both carls and weaponthanes happy? (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Don't swear an oath when a mere promist will suffice. (3, 5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 01, 2013, 12:13:50 AM
I like 5. Mosdorl and Engarna are the best.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 01, 2013, 02:26:33 AM
Come on guys we're having like one raid per update let's cut back on the killings. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 01, 2013, 03:28:45 AM
4. If we're not actually fighting with these guys, and the carls would be happy with one less enemy, it wouldn't hurt to patch relations with them, right?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on July 01, 2013, 05:14:11 AM
4, see Stuffman's reasoning.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 01, 2013, 12:01:45 PM
4 with a side of 3. Considering that we've been picking up our teeth for a year plus now and losing fights with neighbors, it would probably be wiser to hold off on raiding and doing more diplomatic stuff instead of doing something to get our butts kicked again. I think we're down a notch in the ranking because of it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on July 02, 2013, 04:56:04 AM
That reminds me, is there anything we could build to up our chances when the Colymar come to give us a friendly reminder of our refusal again? Or do we already have all defensive structures that might be somewhat useful?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 02, 2013, 12:07:49 PM
Why are we feuding with the Bluejays? This is important.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 02, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
Why are we feuding with the Bluejays? This is important.
Because Toronto's understandably jealous that their former manager never did well with the Jays yet is a large part of the Red Sox's success this year. Boston's got the best record in the AL with Farrell at the helm despite the team having a terrible season last year while the Blue Jays are lucky to have managed yet another lackluster .500 season in a tough division so far.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 02, 2013, 10:20:12 PM
Meh, I'm with mosdorl. In one ear, out the other. 5 |3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 02, 2013, 11:17:37 PM
That reminds me, is there anything we could build to up our chances when the Colymar come to give us a friendly reminder of our refusal again? Or do we already have all defensive structures that might be somewhat useful?
Dat shit costs goods man. Loooooooooooooooooots of goods. Like I'm not actually sure we can build any of the others right now. They haven't been back in a while though, maybe they decided we're not worth it?

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20064/kodp064-01_zps2c46cda2.png~original)
Dat shit frequently also costs goods man how am I supposed to set shit on fire for Chalana Arroy to teach us Healing at this rate. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20064/kodp064-02_zps553c24c7.png~original)
Let's explore our own tula and maybe slaughter some bandits.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20064/kodp064-03_zpsebb502af.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20064/kodp064-04_zpscbf78675.png~original)
Baby! And MATERIALS! \o/

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20064/kodp064-05_zps4cf27c48.png~original)
A young warrior woman of your clan, Marlesta, comes to the clan hall with a warrior woman of the Zethnoring clan, which you are feuding with. The other young woman's name is Yerestia. Marlesta declares that she and Yerestia have undergone a ritual and declared themselves blood sisters. They will fight to defend one another, to the death if necessary. They say that we should follow their example, and end our foolish and destructive feud with the Zethnorings.

1. Make peace with the Zethnoring clan. (This will lead to a further choice of offering them payment, demanding payment from them, or proposing a political marriage.)
2. Outlaw Marlesta.
3. Respect their sisterhood, but refuse to seek peace.
4. Tell Marlesta you will think about what she has said.
5. "This ritual of sisterhood has no legal merit."


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) This ritual of sisterhood contravenes our rights; she is a troublemaker, and we should outlaw her. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We are stronger than our for, so we can demand reparations if we sue for peace. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Marlesta has always been headstrong, contrary, and passionate. (1, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) (I'm sorry I got you hurt Sartark. ;_;)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Bad King Urgrain declared that Doruskul was his brother. but when Doruskul won more glory at the Battle of Kanda Fant, he threw Doruskul into a ravine. (1, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) This ritual of sisterhood has no legal merit. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) She doesn't really mean it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 03, 2013, 01:54:32 AM
1, and since we need them goods, make them pay us. In goods, if possible.
How many goods would it be reasonable to ask for, by the way?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 03, 2013, 11:47:29 AM
1 with a small request for goods since the Zenthorings aren't really worth raiding or getting raided by (too many kitties). Considering how well things went down with the Narri-o brothers, another patched relationship would be fine. Considering how poorly demands for protection went with the Elkenvali, a small one is far more realistic.

Ah, the fragrance of lillies is in the air. Also Mosdorl is my favorite and least favorite character simultaneously.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on July 03, 2013, 03:13:24 PM
1, Orlgard may not have a great track record for good ideas, but we need those goods.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 03, 2013, 03:15:06 PM
3. If we make peace with them and the Blue Jays, then we'll only have the Elkenvali left and they're running out of shit to steal! Let's keep beating them up until maybe we can get a few free tributes off of them.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 03, 2013, 11:18:20 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20065/kodp065-01_zps2d548c4d.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20065/kodp065-02_zpsbee85714.png~original)
We're pretty sorely in need of both cows and goods, really, and the cows will help out in our farming; I went with what's a pretty typical offer when your hapless victims sure for peace but the ungrateful jerks don't bite.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20065/kodp065-03_zps27ba9a38.png~original)
Taking the action to reassign some crafters now that we have a multiple special materials - I generally feel like it's not worth the month for a single one.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20065/kodp065-04_zps716c2bff.png~original)
Deciding that your feud with the Blue Jay clan has gone on long enough, you approach them with an offer of peace. The chief, Ernaldness, is restrained. Their lawspeaker, Arene, however seems receptive to your offer.

1. Arrange for a noble male of your clan to marry a noble girl of theirs, and vice versa.
2. Offer them wealth.
(I believe but am not entirely sure that we can split this between cows and goods.)
3. Offer to lend support to a ritual of their choice.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) They have many grievances with us. We will have to be extraordinarily generous to sway their hearts. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Let's not offend them with an offer worth less than fifty cows. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) Generosity is the polish of the peace table. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) (Man and he'd actually be useful here too.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) Orlanth so needed to make peace with Yelm that he brought him back from the dead.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) If we had a tribe, we could band together and protect our clan from outsiders. (Engarna, do you realize how far away these guys are? We'd have to make a tribe with everyone between us and them first.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Let's offer them our magic, but give them as little as possible. Magic can't be measured. How will they know? (3)

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the Blue Jays are the "tradition of female chiefs" clan you guyssssssssss we need to end this feud. <3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 03, 2013, 11:33:04 PM
Daaamn that's a lot of cows. But we're not really rolling in magic here. 2. We'll have to take Orlgard's word on it.

Sartark we need you ;_;
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 04, 2013, 12:01:30 AM
2

Does that lady have a fake beard on in the back?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 04, 2013, 12:19:29 AM
Does that lady have a fake beard on in the back?

Yep! Beards are so important for Lhankor Mhy devotees that the ladies wear fakes.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 04, 2013, 02:22:59 AM
Give the cows, we'll raid the Elkenvali or the Zethnoring later. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 04, 2013, 02:55:44 AM
Is what Mosdorl says true, here? Just, in general?

Either way, 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 04, 2013, 03:12:06 AM
Is what Mosdorl says true, here? Just, in general?

I dunno, the game seems pretty comfortable quantifying our magic (though that much is easy enough to write off as a gameplay abstraction), and a few other events people seem to be able to gauge whether or not we're lying about how our magic currently is.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 04, 2013, 03:13:49 AM
I dunno, the game seems pretty comfortable quantifying our magic (though that much is easy enough to write off as a gameplay abstraction), and a few other events people seem to be able to gauge whether or not we're lying about how our magic currently is.

Then I imagine he's wrong. I got that advice in my game but didn't want to test it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 04, 2013, 10:17:27 AM
The fake beard thing has historical precedence. There have been a few female pharaohs of Egypt we know about, and the earliest one has been depicted wearing a fake beard.

Also: I am trending toward 1, but I am a miser =[

Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 05, 2013, 11:37:21 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20066/kodp066-01_zpsce55d51c.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20066/kodp066-02_zpsce939a05.png~original)
Well, at least we didn't have to spend an action sending a delegation this way thanks to it being from an event. We have lost literally nothing in this peace attempt.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20066/kodp066-03_zpsc42dee51.png~original)
The carls, represented by Wilms the Restive, are unhappy. "The clan is trying to support too many weaponthanes, priests, and other folk who eat the food we produce but don't produce any themselves. They're parasites, I tell you, parasites!"

1. Dismiss 4 weaponthanes.
2. Dismiss 10 weaponthanes.
3. Give the chief complainers a cow apiece.
4. Persuade Wilms that he's mistaken.
5. Take the matter under advisement, then forget about it.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) If we do dismiss any weaponthanes, we will have to compensate them. (I'm unsure how much said compensation is but I know hiring is 3 goods each, just to have some measure to go off of.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) I believe I can talk some sense into Wilms, and get him to calm himself. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) King Heort said, "When the carls and weaponthanes stop quarreling, that is when you will know that the golden Storm Age has returned." (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) (still hurt. reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally need to learn Healing.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) It's true we could use a few more hands in the fields, but Wilms is really concerned with a long list of minor slights. (1, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) I'm not sure about this.

Note that as the summaries here only count healthy weaponthanes, we do have significantly more than it appears - I forget how many injured it listed back when I hired up crafters but I'd estimate we have 30-40 total? I'm unsure whether it'll dismiss from the injured ones first or not though.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 05, 2013, 11:57:25 PM
4. In cases like these, persuading tends to make your clan happier, doesn't it? If you have good leadership at least.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 06, 2013, 03:11:25 PM
What'd I say? More farms. What'd yalls try to tell me? This is all your fault and the ancestors are frowning, MotK.

5, then finally get around to making more farms.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 06, 2013, 09:48:22 PM
What'd I say? More farms. What'd yalls try to tell me? This is all your fault and the ancestors are frowning, MotK.

5, then finally get around to making more farms.

Dude we have more farms than we can work right now, we just haven't got enough cows and dudes to work 'em. :V

Oh come on surely more than two of you have opinions. ;_;
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 07, 2013, 12:00:36 AM
Can I vote twice if I wear a groucho marx stache?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 07, 2013, 12:07:23 AM
8{

5 Tell'em we'll shove it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 07, 2013, 12:07:46 AM
Can I vote twice if I wear a groucho marx stache?

No but I encourage the 'stache anyway.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 07, 2013, 12:37:50 AM
Holy hell is our clan's working force made of whiners or what
5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 07, 2013, 12:45:52 AM
Holy hell is our clan's working force made of whiners or what
5

yes.

Seriously making the carls happy is as much luck as anything. At least making the weaponthanes happy you basically just gotta go kick enough ass. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 07, 2013, 11:18:06 PM
Pretending like we care doesn't even give us a result message, it turns out. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20067/kodp067-01_zps1e87c579.png~original)
HEY CHALANA ARROY TEACH ME HEALING.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20067/kodp067-02_zps1b5f2c01.png~original)
NO STOP THAT. Resurrection can bring back a dead noble but has a billion restrictions and doesn't even work half the damn time even when you meet them all. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20067/kodp067-03_zpsad3784a5.png~original)
Rastoron, a thane of the Narri clan, comes to ask you to make good on a favor you owe his people. "We ask that you gift us with food, in return for considerations we have given your clan in the past, and in recognition of the goodwill between us," he says. He asks for enough grain to feed 50 people for a year*.

1. Give him less than he wants.
2. Give him more than he wants.
3. Give him what he wants.
4. Offer him cattle instead.
5. Refuse him.


*this is 50 food, BTW.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Custom requires the giver to provide enough food to feed forty people for a year. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Their warriors are few, and ill-equipped. We should curry the favor of the strong, and forget about these weaklings. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) This is a fine opportunity to demonstrate our generosity. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) (He'd be so useful heeeeeeeeeeeeere.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/enerin2_zps366bf9cb.png:original) We don't have the food to spare. (4, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) It would be embarassing for us to say no to them. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Food is too precious to be given away, even when we owe an obligation to another clan. (5)

I know 1 and 2 both prompt for an amount, I believe 4 does as well but I'm not entirely certain what's the traditional offer here. I believe in most cases a cow is worth 4 or 5 food.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 08, 2013, 12:28:24 AM
WHAT DID I TELL YOU PEOPLE? WHAT DID YOU NEVER LISTEN TO ME SAY?

I suggest we do 2 if we can spare it. We need good rep, and people owing us is always great. I'd say at least 70, if the larder looks good? Maybe 100?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 08, 2013, 02:51:31 AM
2 at 70 sounds decent.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 08, 2013, 03:17:38 AM
More than 10% of our farmers are sitting around with the shit kicked out of them, we can't be that generous.

They're already asking for more than standard so just leave it at that. 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 08, 2013, 11:48:53 AM
3. I think negotiations have gone southward often enough as of late.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on July 08, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
3 sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 08, 2013, 02:39:47 PM
3. I think negotiations have gone southward often enough as of late.
Agreed. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 09, 2013, 01:57:26 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-01_zps89fbf40c.png~original)
Carls: still pissed. Always pissed.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-02_zpsccc5829b.png~original)
FINALLY. I switched the shrine over to it from Curing immediately after.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-03_zps4f5f373f.png~original)
And then go punch the Elkenvali because they're still chumps.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-04_zpsfecec92e.png~original)
... I bet it uses Magic (Enerin's is merely Good, though she's basically just Good at everything that's not Plants anyway) so I dunno how successful it'll be but HOW CAN I NOT PICK 1 HERE.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-05_zps67f2cfb9.png~original)
Success!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-06_zps7dbc642c.png~original)
And more success! Success is measured in cows.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-07_zpsc7774f89.png~original)
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha isn't that cute.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-08_zpse8758874.png~original)
Noooooooooooooo we have approximately equal success.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-09_zps35be7eea.png~original)
Stop that you two, what are you, five?

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-10_zpsbaf9937a.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20068/kodp068-11_zpsa691312f.png~original)
Anyway, as long as we can get our dudes patched up in reasonable time, I think we've stabilized a bit. We may have to dismantle a shrine or two depending on how our goods flow goes though - the tier one upkeeps are really low but we're really low too. :V So now what?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 09, 2013, 02:17:17 AM
God damn, Enerin.

Looks like Sartark got better. We really need some income, try for trade routes again?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 09, 2013, 02:21:43 AM
Woah Enerin is badass, man

Looks like Sartark got better. We really need some income, try for trade routes again?
I second this.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on July 09, 2013, 02:26:58 AM
Time to give that Heroquest another shot yet?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 09, 2013, 02:37:11 AM
Time to give that Heroquest another shot yet?

Yeah we reasonably could this year if y'all want to.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 09, 2013, 04:53:28 AM
Third time's the charm and all, so I vote for another try at the Heroquest too.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on July 09, 2013, 11:11:50 AM
Enerin is more than just a supersitious old bat? Surprising. o-o

The above suggestions all sound good.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 09, 2013, 11:54:21 AM
Yeah. Trade routes and heroquesting sounds good. Anything so long as we don't throw more dudes into the meat grinder. ...Or we could just bury the Elkenvali some more.

Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 09, 2013, 11:55:16 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20069/kodp069-01_zpsf04255db.png~original)
This year: TRADE. Also heroquest. Still putting points in War because even without that omen there, still best to invest in case we get attacked. I think I can safely go back to skipping Health now that we've got Healing running on our Chalana Arroy shrine.

And then we get an event before I can actually do anything!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20069/kodp069-02_zps8054c136.png~original)
tl;dr the Elkenvali give up again, they brought 27 cows.

1. Demand MOAR COW
2. Demand ANNUAL COW
3. Take cow, backstab them
4. lolno chumps
5. Yeah OK.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) In matters of power, it is best to be direct. (1, 2, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) I think that we can get more out of this than they're offering. Perhaps as many as 40 cows. (1) (Coincidentally, 40 is the most we can even demand.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/harsaltar_zps0b59e2f4.png:original) If we are going to keep on raiding then, at least wait until the seeds are sown adn the farmers are free to go. (He is correct that it's Sea right now.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) If we accept their tribute, breaking the sacred vows and attacking them in the next two years would be disastrous. (2, 4, 5)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) We can get more healthy cows from them as tribute than from raids. (1, 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Well you already know what I think! (3)

Also apparently Enerin died of old age this year. ;_;

Next update: expect to check out some new potential nobles!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 09, 2013, 11:59:55 PM
aww, how fitting that Enerein dies after her most awesome battle moment ever. It's like she gave her life for Olgards!

1, MOAR COW, 40 OR DIE
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 10, 2013, 12:00:41 AM
2. Tributes of 20 cows for being chumps.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 10, 2013, 12:07:37 AM
Steamrolling them didn't work. Steamrolling them in a raid didn't work. Steamrolling them and making them pay an annual fee didn't work. We have other chumps.

5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on July 10, 2013, 12:33:41 AM
Noooo, Enerin D;
Just when I gained some respect for you too.

1. 40 cows. MANY COWS, GIVE THEM TO ME! I SHALL BECOME THE COW KING! >:D
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on July 10, 2013, 07:23:09 AM
1. 40 cows or continue being our punching bags, which would be totally fine.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 10, 2013, 10:38:08 AM
1. How long has it been since I last posted here? Can someone give me a little recap of what happened?
Also, 40 cows.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 10, 2013, 05:23:11 PM
1, 40 cows. It's their problem if they don't want to pay.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 11, 2013, 12:28:55 AM
Annual cows best cows.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 11, 2013, 12:31:06 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20070/kodp070-01_zpsf53c4239.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20070/kodp070-02_zps445e13fc.png~original)
Oh hey scratch that it lets up ask for way more than 40. But even 40's pretty unlikely to get granted so I'm gonna still go with the vote of 40 even though I think you all meant it by way of THE MAX.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20070/kodp070-03_zps12f70e79.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20070/kodp070-06_zpsf91778d9.png~original)
Yeah Enerin kicked the bucket. :( But at least she went out right after a blaze of glory. Also, fuck, no food.

So. It turns out our noble population is still boring as fuck outside of who we have on the ring already. Also we have a whole one lady who's not Uraldan and she's also really old. I was gonna put things up for vote... but this selection really really isn't worth it.

Though, as much as I weirdly like Harsaltar, he was mostly there as the highest-Custom guy who wasn't our chief, but Iskalli's been taking the lawspeaker role anyway, and some other Chalana Arroyan got pretty good at Magic while we weren't looking!

So say hello to our new ring members!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20070/kodp070-04_zps3df6c6cf.png~original)
Jonrik is our new proper Magic advisor, something we'd been lacking before. He's not horrible at anything, though.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20070/kodp070-05_zps3aa59757.png~original)
Janerra is mostly just here by virtue of god diversity, since Engarna's better at both Plants and Animals (we have a better Uraldan at Animals but the best is a really old Odaylan guy; I forget what our Plants nobles looked like but Engarna's in the top few there too and I genuinely feel is our best shot at vital god diversity while maintaining some sort of competence at both fields). She's also a pretty decent godtalker though.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20070/kodp070-07_zps5b9c0a8d.png~original)
Senior carls have been calculating the number of cows needed to sustain the clan, and concluded that you are headed for disaster. "If we don't get more cows, we will starve." The people can count just as well as anyone else, and know that the clan is headed for trouble. They have grown restive, and want to know what the clan ring is going to do about the situation.

1. "We will get cows by raiding." (This may kick off a raid now, and it is Sea season.)
2. "We will sacrifice to Uralda."
3. "We will trade for more cows."
4. "You are wrong. We have enough cows."
5. "You must trust the ring; we will do what is right."


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) People should obey chosen leaders. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Right after we cheer up the carls, we shoudl raid the Elkenvali clan. (1)
(I haven't cropped Jonrik yet) Uralda can make our cows more fertile, but she cannot make cows appear out of thin air. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) The most reliable way to get cows is to trade for them, but we have little to trade. (5)
(I haven't cropped Janerra yet) We shouldn't promise any one particular thing. That way, if the first thing we do fails, we can try something else without alarming them further. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) It will be very hard to convince them that we have neough cows. (not 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Bad King Urgrain's cow women told him that the herds were dwindling. Bad King Urgrain said, "Who needs cows, when you have the throne?"
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 11, 2013, 01:13:20 AM
The ring seems to agree on 5.

This is a pretty shitty situation. Can we call in any favors for cows/food like people have been doing to us all the time?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 11, 2013, 02:06:43 AM
5 sounds good.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 11, 2013, 02:08:58 AM
This is a pretty shitty situation. Can we call in any favors for cows/food like people have been doing to us all the time?

This requires our traders to not get mauled by bandits on the way again. But then again so does setting up trade routes like we'd planned to already anyway.

I mean I'll try. :V Just I've tried before and it didn't work well then either.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 11, 2013, 07:58:17 AM
5. OBEY THE RING.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 11, 2013, 01:07:52 PM
5, but let's stomp the Elkenvali/Zenthorings when we get the chance to take their stuff. I don't think we have anything to sacrifice.

How's our farmer sitch now and how much did that play into this, anyhow?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 11, 2013, 06:15:29 PM
How's our farmer sitch now and how much did that play into this, anyhow?

Forgot to look before going into ring stuff (and event was right after), and it's basically the sole contributor because our production's been capping out at less food than we need. EVEN IF I MAKE MORE FARMS PURVIS SHUT THE FUCK UP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND QUIT MAKING EVERYONE ELSE THINK INCORRECTLY ABOUT OUR PROBLEMS. Though I think we also don't have enough cows to work the land we need to make enough food either.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 11, 2013, 10:28:27 PM
So basically what we can take away from this is "fuck you, Colymar".
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 11, 2013, 10:29:39 PM
So basically what we can take away from this is "fuck you, Colymar".

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 11, 2013, 11:28:56 PM
FUCK I accidentally closed the game instead of my VM. So... we're rewinding to this past Sacred Time this update, since that's my most recent save.

Same magic setup I went with at the start of the year, Enerin still died, Elkenvali still came to surrender and refused to pay 40 cows (though their mercenaries this time are from all over), put the same two people on the ring, still starving, new event though!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20071/kodp071-01_zpsfc4c6922.png~original)
A trio of strange beings has eluded your patrols. These lizard-men are probably the dragonewts you've heard legends about. For twelve hours they have been enacting a mysterious ritual on your lands.

1. Clear the area until they leave.
2. Conduct a ritual to counter their magic.
3. Try to communicate with them.
4. Try to kill them.
5. Watch them until they leave.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) These aren't the toughest dragonewts. These are the weakest ones. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) I have nothing to add.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) I'll go along with the ring's decision.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Perhaps we can try to communicate with them. (HEY GUESS WHAT HIS OPINION IS)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) I don't have an opinion on this.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Hey! They're stealing our honey! (4)

So, we lost surprisingly little progress after all, since I kept everything we had done the same. =P
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 11, 2013, 11:42:02 PM
Haha, nobody on the ring except Mosdorl cares.

We are ostensibly dragonbros, so 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 12, 2013, 12:02:07 AM
I'm voting 5. Communicating with someone during a magic ritual *miiiiiight* cause issues. Maybe. But my voyeurism just kicks in too much.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on July 12, 2013, 12:12:27 AM
Waaaay to take the initiative, new guys.  Come on!

Also 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jana on July 12, 2013, 01:04:27 AM
They have beehives on their heads! I want to know this ritual too. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 12, 2013, 03:07:39 AM
3. But if they say something that would be bad for us, then 4.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 12, 2013, 04:32:12 AM
Hahahaha, they look adorable
I vote for 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 12, 2013, 08:21:39 AM
3 sounds cool. BRIBE THEM WITH WORDS!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on July 12, 2013, 08:58:19 AM
The general consensus appears to be 3, and I have to agree.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 12, 2013, 11:46:34 AM
3. Just too curious about it.
So basically what we can take away from this is "fuck you, Colymar".
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
Eschew the gendarmes. If we ever have to reload because of it, send them Mosdorl's funny looking cows and be done with it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 13, 2013, 07:29:44 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-01_zps7b5544ab.png~original)
Well they seem harmless enough I guess.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-02_zpsd9eabbaf.png~original)
Gradually our farmer situation is looking up, but WE HAVE NO FOOD.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-03_zps86185ad9.png~original)
We're going to have to starve ever so briefly though because if I don't crank up the field amounts now we won't get more planted for this year. And then we'll starve next year too.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-04_zpse9135a80.png~original)
... oh fuck you douchebags. Eat some extra magic.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-05_zps6df1807f.png~original)
We're still in better shape on people than at the start of the year? And that's a lot of horses we can trade away.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-06_zps21da79cc.png~original)
I'm sorry. ;_;

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-07_zpsb8969716.png~original)
Sheep and pigs are basically for maintaining shrines and slaughtering. They yield pretty crap on the latter though.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-08_zps825cbeec.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-09_zps7e788569.png~original)
Ow.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-10_zpsb9acb3fa.png~original)
Go, go beg for food!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-11_zps5f71d8ac.png~original)
... oh shit we actually made it there. I'm just taking the usual and running instead of putting it up for vote. They were like "cool beans" and forked it over with no problem.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-12_zps24721b74.png~original)
GET MORE FOOD also cows.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20072/kodp072-13_zpsb7c1774d.png~original)
Aslandar, a thane of the Narri clan, comes to ask you for information about Ingard, chief of the Konthasos clan. "We intend to enter into negotiations with Ingard, and hope that you know something about his personality, so that we will be well prepared for our parley with the Konthasos. You owe us a favor, and we will consider your obligation discharged if you give us good information."

1. "Ingard? We know him well."
2. "Let us give you a gift, instead of information."
3. "We don't know anything about Ingard."
4. "We'll try to answer your questions, but do not guarantee that our answers will be right."
5. "What do you take us for, a pack of tattle-tales?"


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Better to give Aslandar a gift than information we are unsure of. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Ingard is a bold one; his deeds will surely be celebrated in the chronicles. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) Ingard pays but token attention to the edicts of the gods. They will surely punish him someday. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Ingard is so honest he does not recognize dishonesty in others. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) Aslandar's clan grows impatient with us. We can't afford to offend him. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Ingard is a well known skinflint. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Just tell him what we think of him, as if we were speaking about Ingard.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 13, 2013, 07:34:14 PM
Well apparently we know his whole life story! So 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 13, 2013, 08:30:50 PM
^
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 13, 2013, 10:33:39 PM
We were feuding with the Narri once and they kicked our butts. Then we allowed the marriage between the two clans and went from worst to first with 'em and now we're getting a favor from them. Hot diggity.

More than half of the circle can provide some input. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 13, 2013, 11:59:04 PM
Is it possible to convince clans to leave the Colymer tribe?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 14, 2013, 12:33:19 AM
Looks like our ring read the dude's biography. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 14, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
1. We're legit, so we must give legit info!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 15, 2013, 12:09:42 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20073/kodp073-01_zps78cca5b0.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20073/kodp073-02_zps1081151d.png~original)
Presents! \o/

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20073/kodp073-03_zpsca419f6f.png~original)
Other moderately competent bargainer not on our ring! Go! (Except I forgot to swap the caravan to Large before I took this screenshot. I did after but before I sent it out.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20073/kodp073-04_zps847de480.png~original)
And in the meantime, our first trader returned. With success!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20073/kodp073-05_zpsdee75798.png~original)
And then we'll explore our own tula because we can't actually afford to do much else in Dark right now and at the worst case it'll keep the bandits down.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20073/kodp073-06_zps47b8b7f9.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20073/kodp073-07_zps6c41673d.png~original)
Sweeeeeeeet, both more trading and more materials.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20073/kodp073-08_zpsd24b8787.png~original)
Bolik, a young, energetic farmer, on the road to prosperity, asks the clan council for help. He claims that his stead is haunted. Objects move about. Wailing noises come from nowhere. Bolik's wife and child have even seen an apparition.

1. Conduct a lawsuit against the ghost.
2. Launch a thorough investigation into the haunting.
3. Order Bolik to move; burn down his stead.
4. Recommend that Bolik move.
5. Send a devotee of Ernalda to banish the ghost.
6. Send a devotee of Issaries to persuade the ghost to leave.


(In theory you can also have a devotee of Humakt threaten the ghost, but we have no Humakti at all, much less on the ring. They're not very common at all, really.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Horvator Farsee once conducted a case against a spirit, so there may be precedents for outlawing the ghost. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Most of our gods were dead, but brought back to live by Orlanth and the Lightbringers. (How is this even relevant, Orlgard.)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) Exorcism is not a specialty of the gods we worship. We must improvise a solution. (4, 6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) I don't know what a ghost would want from us; how can I then bargain with one? (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) My mistress, Ernalda, is leader of the female gods. Perhaps, through her, we could seek the aid of Ty Kora Tek, Goddess of the Dead. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) None of Heort's Laws obligate us to help the victim of a haunting.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Bolik must have forgotten the name of one of his ancestors. Let us make sport of his foolishness.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 15, 2013, 12:14:31 AM
1 sounds badass. AMERICAN SOLUTION GOOO
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 15, 2013, 02:04:26 AM
I lean 2, then 1 if we've got no other ideas off of that.  Gotta try something.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 15, 2013, 02:05:17 AM
1. LAWSUITS ARE TOTALLY THE BEST SOLUTION.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 15, 2013, 03:51:14 AM
I can't believe we can sue a ghost for haunting a house. It's what they do ffs. Regardless, the trial will probably be hilarious. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 15, 2013, 06:56:35 AM
Is it possible to convince clans to leave the Colymer tribe?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 15, 2013, 07:49:05 AM
Is it possible to convince clans to leave the Colymer tribe?

No.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 15, 2013, 12:00:42 PM
Back on track!

1 was my answer before I even knew it was possible to choose it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 16, 2013, 10:17:32 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20074/kodp074-01_zpscb8f9b5b.png~original)
Iskalli: Ace Attorney

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20074/kodp074-02_zpsa8a206a0.png~original)
Let's use that ivory we just found.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20074/kodp074-03_zpsfee1a855.png~original)
And then, as requested, QUEST TIME.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20074/kodp074-04_zpsbd4757d2.png~original)
Though it's been long enough since our first quest attempt that I suppose it's probably worth asking anew what we want for our goal. (Though, I suppose I should have asked that before picking our quester, too, what with the strengthening the quester option; given our track record on heroquests so far though it's probably a good idea to send our strongest Orlanth worshipper specifically. :V)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 16, 2013, 10:23:53 PM
>Reputation

What is the difference between crafting normal, fancy, and specific things?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 16, 2013, 10:42:28 PM
>Reputation

What is the difference between crafting normal, fancy, and specific things?

moar goods
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 16, 2013, 11:16:31 PM
Reputation would probably be good.

And GJ Iskalli.  Now to teach him combat lawyering MvC3 style.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 16, 2013, 11:25:52 PM
Reputation indeed.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 17, 2013, 12:22:10 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20074/kodp074-01_zpscb8f9b5b.png~original)
Iskalli: Ace Attorney

That WORKED? What the fuck??
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 17, 2013, 12:28:51 AM
Apparently, in this setting, ghosts of people act like people.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 17, 2013, 11:29:16 AM
3. I wanna be famous!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 17, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
That WORKED? What the fuck??
You betcha it did.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 17, 2013, 04:37:50 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20074/kodp074-01_zpscb8f9b5b.png~original)
Iskalli: Ace Attorney
...I can't help but picture a bunch of people angrily yelling a bunch of law stuff at an amorphous mute ectoplasmic blob and it's the best thing. Gods this game is awesome.

Anyway, yeah, go for reputation.

Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 18, 2013, 08:16:47 PM
Question: Are all of these payouts of roughly equal value?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 18, 2013, 09:17:18 PM
Question: Are all of these payouts of roughly equal value?

Improving the abilities of your whole ring (instead of just the quester) are useless shit. we're required to run it for gaining Orlanth's blessing at some point eventually. But I've actually already done the playing for this update and was unable to post because of the TSO's birthday joke so it's too late to change now anyway. =P
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 18, 2013, 10:31:42 PM
Actually as long as I have the update ready there's no point in waiting.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20075/kodp075-01_zpse3d5b36c.png~original)
As before, we go after reputation (which doesn't give us a blurb), and successfully overcome the Doubting Wheel, bringing us...

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To where we failed before. Shall we again attempt to follow the myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_making_of_the_storm_tribe_zps4f024748.png) exactly as they are written, or shall we attempt to forge the story anew?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 18, 2013, 10:36:28 PM
What's Ostgard's combat rating again?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 18, 2013, 10:39:53 PM
What's Ostgard's combat rating again?

Can't actually check mid-quest (that's about the only time you can't!) but I'm pretty sure I remember him hitting Heroic.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 18, 2013, 11:13:41 PM
1 THE ANSWER TO WAR IS ALWAYS "YES"!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 19, 2013, 12:19:16 AM
1: if he's a hero, he should be able to perform a hero's duty.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 19, 2013, 10:56:59 AM
1. Being suicidal is always the answer!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 19, 2013, 04:23:54 PM
I recall Orlgard reached the highest level of Combat, so if anyone can do it, he can. 1.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 20, 2013, 12:09:57 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20075/kodp075-03_zps3ea2f7d5.png~original)
\o/

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Orlgard finds the Knowing God, who is head of the Marks On Bark Clan. The Knowing God is trapped inside a great cube. He says that the Stone Tribe imprisoned him, because he tried to make new knowledge about them, and the Stone Tribe hates new things.

1. Go find Vadrus.
2. Hit the cube.
3. Leave the realm of the gods.
4. Recite a poem to the cube.
5. Tell the Knowing God to launch a legal claim against the cube.
6. Threaten the cube.


The myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_making_of_the_storm_tribe_zps4f024748.png): less useful here than usual. But not entirely useless!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 20, 2013, 12:13:29 AM
2. Use that combat rating!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 20, 2013, 12:19:06 AM
Hrm...  The cube is acting legally.  And violence probably isn't the answer.  That leaves....

4 ?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 20, 2013, 12:40:14 AM
I'll have to go with four on this one. Threats will probably do nothing, and legal action only works so many times.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 20, 2013, 01:12:45 AM
4 sounds right, but I might be thinking of another myth.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 20, 2013, 01:16:58 AM
Ruined it so it fell apart. I think hitting it would work. Dunno if Ollie has the chops for poetry.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 20, 2013, 01:26:10 AM
Well, I mean, I played through this myth with QUEEN ANGRY and remember a poem part, and that was how the thing fell apart.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 20, 2013, 05:18:12 AM
4. Beautiful words can break cubes!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 21, 2013, 01:51:06 AM
What kind of poem should we tell the cube?

1. A poem about square things becoming round.
2. A poem about storm people beating stone people.
3. A poem no one has heard before.
4. The most beautiful poem you know.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 21, 2013, 02:06:02 AM
1. A poem about square things becoming round.
.... I can think of no greater offense against a square. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 21, 2013, 02:17:30 AM
3. It should confuse and ruin the cube!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 21, 2013, 03:26:17 AM
1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 21, 2013, 04:27:46 AM
3  They don't like new things eh?  Well how about THIS!  (Quick think of a poem....)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jana on July 21, 2013, 06:53:27 AM
...Are we going to make our Poemcrafting check? :ohdear:
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 21, 2013, 02:56:31 PM
I'll have to go with three on this one.
Don't anger the cube.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 22, 2013, 02:46:22 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20075/kodp075-05_zps31300591.png~original)
Cube: ruined. Beardy man: recruited.

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Orlgard finds his unruly, violent brother Vadrus, who heads the Hurt Everything Clan. Vadrus wants to go fight Yinkin's Cat Clan. "Yinkin scratched me, and some of my essence leaked out onto the ground I cannot allow assaults on my person to go unavenged, so Yinkin must suffer my wrath."

1. Find other clans instead.
2. "I challenge you to a contest of strength."
3. "I would sooner see you harmed than Yinkin."
4. "If we had a tribe, you could punish him without hurting him."
5. Leave the realm of the gods.
6. "We need Yinkin to join our tribe."
7. "Yinkin is our brother."


The myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_making_of_the_storm_tribe_zps4f024748.png) may aid you in your decision.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 22, 2013, 03:10:50 AM
Hrm, my intuition says 4, but the myth very heavily implies 2.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 22, 2013, 03:12:29 AM
Let's go with two.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 22, 2013, 04:48:46 AM
2  Make no promises and they won't be able to say you broke them.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 22, 2013, 11:40:34 AM
It's time to du-du-du-du-du-duel. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 22, 2013, 11:08:58 PM
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Oh damnit. But it gives us the same choices (minus that one) again and punish without hurting had kinda like half a vote?

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Huzzah!

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Orlgard keeps collecting clans for the new tribe. Sometimes the chieftains of these clans make unreasonable requests. Or they make contradictory demands: Issaries will join only if Uralda does, and Uralda will join only if Esra does, but Esra will join only if Issaries is kept out. Orlgard tells them all what they want to hear. So when it comes time for a confederation moot, and they realize that he cannot please them all, the chieftains start to fight and blame Orlgard.

1. Leave the realm of the gods.
2. Offer to fight each and every one of them.
3. Wait for Ernalda to bring tribal regalia.
4. "With a tribe, our magic will be strong."
5. "With a tribe, we can fight common foes."
6. "With a tribe, we will be prosperous."


The myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_making_of_the_storm_tribe_zps4f024748.png) may aid you in your decision.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 22, 2013, 11:18:19 PM
Well, going by the myths, the answer is 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 22, 2013, 11:21:55 PM
Yeah, let's go with 3.

Wait... 3?
Half Life 3 confirmed!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 23, 2013, 01:03:56 AM
3  Man we lucked out on the last one.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 23, 2013, 01:15:38 AM
I'm going with the myths and say 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 23, 2013, 01:33:01 AM
I'll vote 4: maybe this will start a Mass Effect style rousing speech.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 23, 2013, 01:37:03 AM
3 sounds good. AND I AM GLAD MY INTUITION SAVED US!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 23, 2013, 06:15:54 AM
3. Tribal Rituals will totally help!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 23, 2013, 11:42:38 AM
Orlanth offers to fight before Ernalda brings the swag. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 23, 2013, 01:32:55 PM
Orlanth offers to fight before Ernalda brings the swag. 2

I've thought of that, but for some reason I worry that if we go with 2, fighting will actually occur, as 2 doesn't say prepare to fight, just fight.

Eh, maybe either option works.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 23, 2013, 11:29:26 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20075/kodp075-10_zps4c4cff23.png~original)

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Then warriors of the Night Tribe come and attack the quarrelling clans.

1. Call for peace with the Night People.
2. Direct the others to fight the Night Tribe.
3. Lead the fight against them.
4. Leave the realm of the gods.
5. Stand back and lend magic to the fight.


The myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/the_making_of_the_storm_tribe_zps4f024748.png) may aid you in your decision.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 23, 2013, 11:31:50 PM
3 I ...think. I don't remember what I answered here D:
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 23, 2013, 11:34:02 PM
I'll have to go with 3 again.
A running gag between a classmate and myself is that three is the answer to everything.
Also, number three is number three.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 23, 2013, 11:42:03 PM
And so it came to pass, when the clans came together, that a great evil rose against them when they were at their most divided. Angry glances where exchanged. Steel lusted for blood. And hatefilled minds were unsure where to guide their anger. For the enemy before them, and the enemy beside them filled them with equal amounts of despise.

But amidst it all a light shone. The Gods had already spoken, had they not? War was inevitable, but they were all warriors of the Gods, much as they wanted to slice each others' stomachs open and string one another up on their respective innards.

The light shone upon Orlgarld. He had brought them all together, and would be worthy of the title the Great Unifier as it stands. But his task was far from done. He was not only a leader. He was a warrior. The light of leadership was given to him. He had no intention of shining warmly upon the foes from the distance, watching his valiant men and women die in battle.

He was going to be the comet that ****ing blew the **** out of all these suckers! He was going to be the light that pierced through the Night!

Fellow warriors, take steel onto your arm, and lay steel onto your heart. The battle will be fierce, but their skulls shall serve us well filled with mead. Leave only alive what is friendly, and decimate all that opposes you. Destroy the night!

CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE!

Yeah, my choice's 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 24, 2013, 04:04:10 AM
3. Prepare to charge!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 24, 2013, 04:30:11 AM
For anyone with a Something Awful account (or people without who just wanna lurk except I hear the paywall's up right now), the same user who did the last Let's Play of KoDP there has just started a new one (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3561056)! ... under the same title I borrowed for this thread from the last one! :V

Now you can have double your RDA of Dragon Pass!
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Post by: O4rfish on July 24, 2013, 05:23:20 AM
You have to pay for a forum account. That is awful.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 24, 2013, 04:31:43 PM
Hey, last bit worked out in the end.

Leadership by example! 3
You have to pay for a forum account. That is awful.
It's a clever bit of advertizing. They don't tell you WHAT is awful, just that SOMETHING is awful. It's like when restaurants don't show the price of the desserts... Or something.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 24, 2013, 04:41:24 PM
So I've got a question:

Does deviation from the original myths negatively impact the benefits we get from a successful heroquest? Like, in the original myth, Orlanth defeated his brother in arm-wrestling, but when we tried to do that, we lost. Will this discrepancy diminish the rewards we get in the end?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on July 24, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
You have to pay for a forum account. That is awful.
It keeps out the riffraff.  Riffraff!  Riffraff!

I love that word.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 24, 2013, 09:43:12 PM
Does deviation from the original myths negatively impact the benefits we get from a successful heroquest? Like, in the original myth, Orlanth defeated his brother in arm-wrestling, but when we tried to do that, we lost. Will this discrepancy diminish the rewards we get in the end?

Not unless we really really deviate in such a way that it ends prematurely but not failure-ly. And even then the reward's more just full-on different.

Off the top of my head I can only think of one such result and you'll know it's way wrong before you even try it. :V

It is also possible to fail but not get kicked out, getting lost in the godplane instead, and some of your options there will actually get you something instead of just getting lost forever.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 24, 2013, 11:46:33 PM
"With all our combined powers, we punch the Night Tribe in the face."
The plot better mention punching...
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 24, 2013, 11:54:27 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20076/kodp076-01_zps18d895f2.png~original)

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Huzzah! \o/

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LOOK AT ALL THAT SWEET SWEET MAGIC WE HAVE. This is what happens when you don't fail at Heroquesting.

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Damnit Iskalli you're supposed to be good at leadering.

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ugh did we seriously just lose to the Elkenvali.

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Sacred Time. ughhhhhhhhhhhh that harvest omen is the last thing we need right now. But our reputation has, in fact, been increased! By kind of a lot.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 24, 2013, 11:58:16 PM
Well, clearly we slam everything into crops and hope. When the crop is poor Barley is the safer bet, right? I forgot, really. Either way, let's also do more facepunching of the Elkenvali until they die forever, and set up some food trades.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 24, 2013, 11:59:57 PM
He came. He LARPed. He knocked everybody's socks off!


As for what to do... beg for food I'unno.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 25, 2013, 12:00:46 AM
When the crop is poor Barley is the safer bet, right? I forgot, really.

Rye. Barley's the neutral one.

I figure "make the crops be the right crops" is kind of a given every year anyway. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 25, 2013, 02:33:17 AM
How can we leverage this awesome reputation?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 25, 2013, 02:46:22 AM
Can't we try to make a tribe now that our reputation is at the highest point possible?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 25, 2013, 03:08:26 AM
Can't we try to make a tribe now that our reputation is at the highest point possible?

I get the feeling that making a tribe will cost lots of both goods and cattle, just to get people to be receptive to the idea. Maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but it's probably better to get some stuff stored up for gifts to potential tribesmates.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 25, 2013, 03:14:07 AM
I get the feeling that making a tribe will cost lots of both goods and cattle, just to get people to be receptive to the idea. Maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but it's probably better to get some stuff stored up for gifts to potential tribesmates.

ding ding ding

Also we've gotta wait for a particular event to happen, though it doesn't usually take long after rep maxes out anyway.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 25, 2013, 11:38:05 AM
Yeah, let's invest in not starving to death.
I get the feeling that making a tribe will cost lots of both goods and cattle, just to get people to be receptive to the idea. Maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but it's probably better to get some stuff stored up for gifts to potential tribesmates.
ding ding ding

Also we've gotta wait for a particular event to happen, though it doesn't usually take long after rep maxes out anyway.
So is it good or bad that we just maxed out rep without much in the way of food/goods?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jq1790 on July 25, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
Probably neither, since Arashi only said we needed to wait for an event, not that we needed to do this during that event...It might just enable another choice or something during Sacred Time or similar.  At least now there's one less thing to worry about filling, right?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 26, 2013, 12:54:33 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20077/kodp077-01_zps23c1caec.png~original)
This year's agenda: keep not starving!

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Step one to that end: rye because bad harvest omen.

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Step two: go cash in more favors.

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I think Eonislara was that chick who slept with that poet? Glad she found a guy who actually seems to like her enough to stick with her.

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I take Kulbrast's advice and net an extra 10 food while the Rakstanti carls QQ.

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Two unknown people come to you seeking temporary refuge. They seem to be foreigners; they do not know the proper greetings, and speak only the trade language. Their clothes are tattered, and it is hard to say where they come from. "We need food, place to stay. Will fight. Fight bravely for you, especially from horseback. Will stay for ten, fifteen seasons, no more."

1. Allow a volunteer to sponsor them as guests.
2. Ask them what kind of people they are.
3. Have the chief sponsor them as guests.
4. Offer to initiate them as Orlanthi.
5. Refuse them.
6. Send them to another clan.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) I would be proud to adopt them. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We have enough warriors already. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) The omens are good, we can afford to take risks. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) They do not know the proper greetings. We cannot expect them to behave properly. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) We could send them to the Blue Spruces. (6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) If we are to make them guests, we will have to perform a Guest Ceremony. Someone will have to sponsor them; that person and his kin must take full responsibility for the guests' actions.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Foreigners talk funny, and are easy prey for pranks. Let us welcome them! (1)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 26, 2013, 01:06:19 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Foreigners talk funny, and are easy prey for pranks. Let us welcome them! (1)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Jana on July 26, 2013, 01:06:56 AM
Nobody suggested 2? Well, I'm curious! But I'll also take 3 since he seems so willing~
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 26, 2013, 01:08:33 AM
2 seems promising...
Eh, 3 then.
Better for the chief to do it.
AUTHORITY.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 26, 2013, 02:00:16 AM
Horse guys? Maybe they'll teach us the mysterious ways of the horse! 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 26, 2013, 02:29:16 AM
3 sounds good, Iskalli is pretty eager!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 26, 2013, 03:14:20 AM
If the boss wants to take the risk, the boss can take the risk.  3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 26, 2013, 03:20:18 AM
2. Best to get it from the horse's mouth.

See what I did there?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 26, 2013, 05:20:18 AM
3. This is no more or less than exactly what they ask for.

Not voting 2, because people seem to dislike being questioned for information they purposely didn't volunteer.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 26, 2013, 11:41:31 AM
Diplomacy saving the day again. It's more useful than I thought it would be. Also Iskalli has these moments where he plays proud papa to the entire clan and then some.

Still curious about what's what, so 2 then 3.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 26, 2013, 02:04:34 PM
But what if they are crazy murderers and kill our chief in his sleep? I think it'd be safer to allow someone less important to take them in. 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 27, 2013, 01:54:04 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp078-01_zpsd5b0f482.png~original)
Free warriors!

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp078-02_zpsebdd318d.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp078-03_zpsa4e6a6f0.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp078-04_zps69e0116c.png~original)
Cowsssssssssssss. Or would be cows if they'd agreed to the deal. >=| Also, a lovely wedding.

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Time to continue grinding the Elkenvali into a fine paste.

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No he's not the Colymar I swear. But random mediocre (at Combat; dude's Excellent at Plants but that's no help :V) Barntari's not gonna be much good anyway. Until apparently he was?

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp078-08_zps86ff6b29.png~original)
FLAWLESS VICTORY.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp078-09_zpsfecf60fb.png~original)
Spending one point of magic juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust in case, though I think it might be overkill.

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Yeah, maybe overkill.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp078-11_zpse911e16f.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp078-12_zps2f0ac2b7.png~original)
More Elkenvali murder. Plus here you can see that the game's pretty smart about raiding anything you're particularly short on - this time we grabbed some food.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp078-13_zps6b7b1cf7.png~original)
Poet-Salinarg of the Narri comes seeking your help with a raid against the Rakstanti. He reminds you of the alliance between the Narri and the Moordors, and tells you that the storehouses of the Rakstanti are like a tantalizing fruit, ripe for the picking.

1. Offer sacrifices to a war god of Salinarg's choice.
2. Politely decline his request.
3. Send a full war party.
4. Send only a token force.
5. Send more warriors than the Narri are sending.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Clans that answer such requests are respected, and follow Orlanth's way. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) The Rakstanti are unpredictable. Sometimes they fight poorly; sometimes, ferociously. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) An appeal to the gods might be just as useful as the provision of soldiers. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Even if we send more warriors than the Narri, salinarg will be offended if we try to take most of the loot. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Alliances can't be taken for granted; they must be tended. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) This is a trap set up by the Rakstanti. Don't fall for it. (2)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 27, 2013, 02:24:46 AM
You know, somehow I bet Mosdorl is right, but I dont want to risk the alliance. So, 1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 28, 2013, 09:02:32 AM
1. Might as well be cautious.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 28, 2013, 10:15:43 AM
The last map showed Rakstani as reasonably friendly to us. We probably shouldn't send warriors, but then again whenever we raid, our allies send a token force without charging us a favor. The Rakstani may or may not ask tough questions if they see our soldiers there ... and we only have a few clans friendly.
What would 1 cost us? If it's pigs or sheep, we may have enough to discharge our obligation without hurting our finances.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 28, 2013, 07:28:30 PM
The last map showed Rakstani as reasonably friendly to us. We probably shouldn't send warriors, but then again whenever we raid, our allies send a token force without charging us a favor. The Rakstani may or may not ask tough questions if they see our soldiers there ... and we only have a few clans friendly.
What would 1 cost us? If it's pigs or sheep, we may have enough to discharge our obligation without hurting our finances.

Goods or cows, pretty sure. And since it's a war god, I think you need to kill things for him. (There's also a goddess that you *have* to sacrifice goods to because she doesn't like spilled blood. It's p. cool.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 28, 2013, 08:28:01 PM
Ok, vote 1 then, hoping this will placate the narri without angering the Rakstani.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 29, 2013, 02:25:38 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20078/kodp0785-01_zps71728ca8.png~original)

PICK AGAIN CHOOBS.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 29, 2013, 02:30:31 AM
Let's go with three. What's the worst that could happen?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 29, 2013, 02:48:23 AM
Oh well, I tried Mosdorl. 3 it is.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 29, 2013, 03:36:11 AM
Send a full war party. The Rakstanti are taunting us, filling their storehouses with food while we starve. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 29, 2013, 01:04:40 PM
Can't we just dress everyone in Elkenvali gear?

I wager the reprisal will be bad either way. Let's keep a positive reputation on at least one side. 3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 30, 2013, 12:10:19 AM
3. WE SHALL BE REMEMBERED AS THE MOST SUICIDAL CLAN!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 30, 2013, 01:36:39 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20079/kodp079-01_zpsd4ad99b5.png~original)
Frankly guys, both minor mercenary work and raiding people who like you (but aren't full-on allies) are par for the course in Orlanthi culture. It doesn't piss people off unless you beat on them an unreasonable amount. Gotta think like Bronze Age barbarians here. Because in this game, we are.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20079/kodp079-02_zpse77d1c8f.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20079/kodp079-03_zps42ae4b70.png~original)
Ship one guy off to form a more lasting trade route, follow up with some more food begging.

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Success on the former count!

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One of the giant animals called earthshakers galumphs onto your tula, intent on eating your crops. Jerernalda manages to herd it away from the barley, but now it's crashed into a stead.

1. Give it hay to eat.
2. Send warriors to fight it.
3. Send warriors to herd it away.
4. Use magic to drive it off.
5. Wait it out.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Our grain bins are empty. Any loss of crops would be disasterous. (2, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) The warriors won't be happy if they get hit by that tail. (1, 4, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) Our magic is strong; our spells will succeed against it. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Every time it smashes a stead, we lose about ten cows worth of materials and lost work.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) There creatures are sacred to Ernalda's vengeful sister, Maran Gor. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) We can easily get rid of it by feeding it, but then it will want to come back. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) There are many kinds of earthshakers. Some are intelligent, and cast spells. Others are terrible carnivores, and some eat only plants. They are sacred to Maran Gor, Ernalda's vengeful sister.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 30, 2013, 01:45:27 AM
We must use magic, for magic is magic, and magic is always the answer.
Also, it seems to be the most tactical choice.
Fighting or herding it would be too risky, feeding it would probably result in it coming back, and waiting it out would probably lead to worse results than just losing hay.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 30, 2013, 01:55:00 AM
4

Use magic to tame it, put it in a ball, and summon it in mortal combat against enemy earthshakers!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 30, 2013, 02:06:50 AM
Give it hay.

We are regarded as kings, we need to have herd animals worthy of being a king's steed.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 30, 2013, 02:19:15 AM
OHMIGOSHITSASTEGOSAURFEEDITFEEDITFEEEEEDIT :getdown:

1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 30, 2013, 02:33:39 AM
Hay, we're dinobros right?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 30, 2013, 02:51:00 AM
1 sounds cool, maybe we can get a new pet!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 30, 2013, 02:57:27 AM
4  Get it out.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 30, 2013, 03:19:31 AM
Hay, we're dinobros right?
We're dragonbros, but dinos have a relation to dragons so I guess being good to them would please our ancestors (I did some reading on the game, and it doesn't matter that the dragons ate up our people in the past [something that they actually had good reasons to do, since the humans were misusing the dragon's magic]; since we chose to be dragronbros back then, we are expected to be nice to them now too. If we want to respect our clan's traditions to get that extra magic, anyway).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 30, 2013, 05:23:11 AM
My point is we're horsebros, dragonbros, duckbros, and so logically we would also be dinobros.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 30, 2013, 11:38:45 AM
My point is we're horsebros, dragonbros, duckbros, and so logically we would also be dinobros.
Clearly this is a great opportunity to gain a trusty steed. On a stegosaurus. Not uncomfortable in the least, and does wonders for lumbar support.
Frankly guys, both minor mercenary work and raiding people who like you (but aren't full-on allies) are par for the course in Orlanthi culture. It doesn't piss people off unless you beat on them an unreasonable amount. Gotta think like Bronze Age barbarians here. Because in this game, we are.
This makes so little sense that it makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 30, 2013, 03:47:20 PM
My point is we're horsebros, dragonbros, duckbros, and so logically we would also be dinobros.
Makes sense, makes sense
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 30, 2013, 07:40:10 PM
1. Become friends!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 30, 2013, 11:56:45 PM
And by a very slim margin...

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Well at least it didn't eat any of our real food.

In too-boring-to-cap news, our harvest blew, no surprise.

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Yeah because I totally expect to get that much food. I just go for custom (and get it) and run.

I switch the Issaries shrine from Silvertongue to Trading temporarily (in prep for trying to go trade for some food during Storm) and the Chalana arroy shrine back to Curing since we now have more sick than injured.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20080/kodp080-03_zps0f4db358.png~original)
... and then seek some more Heroquests to run, successfully!

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While we're stuck on our tula anyway seems like a good time to throw up the cheapest fortification we've got unbuilt yet.

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The priests and priestesses are outraged! Someone has snuck into the temple of Elmal and left a crude, muddy effigy right in the middle of it! The people are concerned that this is a curse, or some other form of bad magic.

1. Convince people it is wise to leave the effigy right where it is.
2. Dedicate statue to Eurmal and move it to its own sacred hut.
3. Destroy it and conduct a ritual to purify the temple.
4. Destroy it and have the chief publicly beat Mosdorl to show the clan's displeasure.
5. Sneak it into another clan's best temple.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Since this involves magic, not beer or cattle, I am inclined to let Mosdorl have his way here. (1, 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Send Mosdorl to sneak it into the Elkenval temple. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) Eurmal will be happiest if we use the effigy as part of a trick against another clan. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) The first thing you do when you find a trickster is look for rope to hang him with. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) If another clan catches us putting this thing in their temple, they will have good cause to hate us. (anything but 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) The people are disturbed by this strange thing, and will be pleased to see Mosdorl punished. (4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) There's no big mystery here. I put the effigy there, in tribute to Eurmal the Trickster God. It will help us to overcome the skepticism of others. (1)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on July 30, 2013, 11:59:51 PM
Maybe if we used magic, we might have somehow controlled the thing... Maybe. Oh well.

As much as I would like for four to happen, I think that it would be best to go with two.
Maybe both gods will like us this way?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 31, 2013, 12:00:25 AM
Let's go with 2 here; Iskalli seems to be cool with it and I don't think punishing Mosdorl will really do anything. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 31, 2013, 12:02:50 AM
1

I trust Mosdorl with the clan's lives. All of them. He will guide us right.

Not saying what I think "right" *is* though.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on July 31, 2013, 12:04:43 AM
gg Mosdorl. That said, I like 5 to the Elkenvali =D

Or the Zethnorings!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on July 31, 2013, 12:07:20 AM
2  Boss man's right, but it belongs in it's own shrine.  Not someone else's.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shadoweh on July 31, 2013, 12:19:40 AM
If we pick 2 does Eurmal get a shrine in your tula?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 31, 2013, 12:28:48 AM
If we pick 2 does Eurmal get a shrine in your tula?

Not one we can actually do anything with - Eurmal doesn't have any enshrinable buffs, just on-use blessings. 1 and 2 both do do things though.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on July 31, 2013, 12:34:07 AM
5. This can only be hilarious, and it's not like they can do anything to us besides water our lawn.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shadoweh on July 31, 2013, 12:35:21 AM
That still sounded like a yes to me! 2 it is!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 31, 2013, 01:10:54 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Send Mosdorl to sneak it into the Elkenval temple. (5)
I just-
Orlgard you fox

I agree with him. 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on July 31, 2013, 02:25:06 AM
I agree with Jonrik.

The LARP we just learned does what? Food?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on July 31, 2013, 04:40:29 AM
2, I'm curious what this will let us do.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on July 31, 2013, 11:56:47 AM
This is the most straightforward Mosdorl has ever been. He only acts that way when he has a reason.

1
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on July 31, 2013, 09:38:58 PM
2. PRAY TO THE WOOD MAN!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 31, 2013, 11:32:43 PM
I love it when you guys make me actually have to count the votes. (No, that's not even sarcasm. I like seeing excitement and disagreement as the the best choice of action in here, especially since it's not like you guys get rude over it.)

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Eurmal: for SCIENCE! Or something.

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Traaaaaaaaaaaade.

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... that's all the patrols managed to get? I'll grant I have a lot of thanes out guarding trade missions, but surely you could have gotten more of the fyrd. OK, have a safety point of magic even if it is just these chumps.

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*kaboom* (... well, OK, we've won harder in the past. Shush.)

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Note to self: don't mess with the Fire Quartz. Or preferably with the Blue Jays either.

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And thus, the great wheel of the seasons again turns to Sacred Time. wat do?

It will be a smidge less than two years since our last heroquest if we choose to LARP one that's not The Making of the Storm Tribe, since Ernalda's is best done in Earth and Elmal's is best done in Dark (with Fire a close second). I think we'll probably be fine if we do, though, especially with a decent store of magic sitting around already.

Possible rewards (including for our older quests, as a refresher):
The Making of the Storm Tribe: gain Orlanth's blessing for making a tribe, improve your reputation, improve your political abilities, make the quester a strong leader
Elmal Guards the Stead: strengthen the quester or the clan leaders, magically strengthen the fortifications, gain horses or the aid of the god when attacked, ward off Chaos, discourage intruders from entering your tula, reconcile the weaponthanes to the clan
Ernalda Feeds the Tribe: make the quester stronger, increase food production, make the carls happier, make the cows healthier, make peace with the elves, get a treasure

If there's a decent demand for any "strengthen the quester" option I'll look for a few suitable candidates before we do it, otherwise I'll just run any quest we do with whoever seems mostly likely to get through it.

This also seems like a good point to introduce secondary bonuses from heroquests, now that we've properly seen how they work in the first place. Basically, successfully going through any heroquest gives a secondary benefit that's fixed per-quest. Some of these are the same as one of your options from the start; yes you do get to double-up with those.

For the quests we know:
The Making of the Storm Tribe: bonus in situations in which you're trying to persuade others
Elmal Guards the Stead: lessens the threat of Chaos; provides horses if the clan's horse herd gets too small
Ernalda Feeds the Tribe: aids cattle fertility, grain yield, and farmer productivity
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on July 31, 2013, 11:44:48 PM
Ernalda Feeds the Tribe

Ernalda Feeds the Tribe

Ernalda Feeds the Tribe


I think I have made my point. |3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on July 31, 2013, 11:47:55 PM
Ernalda Feeds the Tribe

Ernalda Feeds the Tribe

Ernalda Feeds the Tribe
What the gentleman said.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on August 01, 2013, 12:34:22 AM
We need to feed the tribe.

We also need to go on an ass kicking spree, because apparently we've been given divine right.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on August 01, 2013, 12:35:03 AM
Feeding sounds good.
After all, food is good, and there's no reason to decline bonus food stuff.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 01, 2013, 02:56:08 AM
Ernalda Feeds the Tribe

Ernalda Feeds the Tribe

Ernalda Feeds the Tribe


I think I have made my point. |3

Yep. Let's go for Peace with Tree Fondlers though (Actually, elves in Glorantha are, like, actually trees, aren't they? Or something like that?)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on August 01, 2013, 04:22:00 AM
I don't think we've even seen any elves. I'd say increase food production or get a treasure.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 01, 2013, 04:30:51 AM
I don't think we've even seen any elves. I'd say increase food production or get a treasure.

We have. We had the event earlier about mysterious deaths in the forest, IIRC.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on August 01, 2013, 06:21:57 AM
Feeding the Tribe is always the best option (Except when it's not).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 01, 2013, 12:05:00 PM
Yah. Ernalda Feeds the Tribes seems like it'd wipe out a whole lot of trouble and would give us more stuff to bargain with.
29/29 dead/broken little Elkenvali
That whole thing about not being able to wipe out a clan unless you really grind them into the dirt suddenly seems closer to a reality.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on August 01, 2013, 01:51:39 PM
Ernalda makes the MORE FARMS.

Also: We had a chance to beat our trickster in the name of the Law and yalls passed it up. I am ashamed of you.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on August 01, 2013, 09:44:23 PM
Ernalda Feeds the Tribe, going for more food. FOOD!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 01, 2013, 11:42:38 PM
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Well, we're definitely feeding the tribe this season, the only remaining question (which we've still got a couple updates to figure out) is whether we're really really feeding the tribe, or feeding them and also ???.

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Damnit Heorl.

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And then I shifted crops back for a normal harvest year but that's boring except HOLY CRAP without all our farmers keeling over I can work way more land now.

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MURDER THE WEIRD HORSE FOREIGNERS. Unlike us horsebros.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaand now we have a bunch of injured farmers again THANKS HORSE-SPAWN. Plus pretty sure getting raided in Sea still counts as raiding in Sea. *sigh*

Hey random dude go explore somewhere. (How did I forget to screenshot this? I just sent our best Combat guy not on the ring vaguely northeast though.)

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Another young child, Kallai, is found unconscious out in the bush. The puncture wounds on his neck, along with the loss of blood, indicate another vampire attack. The people are afraid and angry, wanting to know what the ring is going to do about this continued threat to their children.

1. Conduct a ritual to protect Kallai from vampire magic.
2. Do nothing.
3. Sacrifice to Humakt for protection from undead.
4. Sacrifice to Urox for protection from chaos.
5. Send warriors to hunt the vampire.


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) The parents of the clan want us to do more to protect their children from this threat. (not 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) This vampire preys on children, which means it will shy away from a true fight. We need to send a few weaponthanes skilled in hunting and tracking, so that we can sneak up on it. (5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) We must perform a preventive ritual for the boy, then we can think what to do about the vampire. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) We can afford to sacrifice generously. Do so, and keep the vampire from scaring away our trade. (3, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) If Humakt frowns upon us, sacrifice ten cows to Urox. (3, 4) (Janerra you're dumb Urox doesn't even like cow sacrfices)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) We can't really spare the cows right now. Sacrifice goods instead.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Look up, look down, look behind yourself. Vampires are masters of deception.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 01, 2013, 11:45:48 PM
We magick'd this last time? Fucking useless gods. 5 it is.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on August 02, 2013, 12:03:43 AM
We've got more thanes now, so 1 then 5.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 02, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
We've got more thanes now, so 1 then 5.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 02, 2013, 01:58:41 AM
We magick'd this last time? Fucking useless gods. 5 it is.

Yeah but last time might have been the time I tried to sac cows to Urox. I forget and there's kind of a lot of updates to go back through. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on August 02, 2013, 02:09:59 AM
1. KILL THE VAMPIRE!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 02, 2013, 11:35:17 AM
Yeah but last time might have been the time I tried to sac cows to Urox. I forget and there's kind of a lot of updates to go back through. :V
Any chance we didn't sac enough last time?

Anyway, 1 and 5.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on August 02, 2013, 05:26:55 PM
1, then 5

Heal and kill. Not feeling friendly to vampires right now, so moiderize them!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 02, 2013, 07:23:03 PM
Any chance we didn't sac enough last time?

Pretty sure no. But it's hardly impossible that dread Arengee frowned upon us.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 02, 2013, 11:36:23 PM
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... OH MAN WE HAVE A VINGAN. (Right this minute, though, I sort of wish we had any Odaylans to go track things.) Anyway, I don't really wanna risk a ring member but Orlgard is the best choice by far.

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And with a small party as advised... fail to find anything.

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Time to go beat up some slightly-less-chumpy chumps because we have a sweet sweet war omen.

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CHAAAAAAAAAARGE.

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*mumble mutter* omens...

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Temertain and his wife Yanioth, of your clan, seek your blessing in the marriage of their daughter, Desrada, to Jarang, son of the chieftain of the Kardavi. Temertain is pleased with the match, and with Jarang's bride-price of 15 cows worth of goods.

1. Allow the marriage only if Jarang comes up with additional gifts.
2. Bless the marriage.
3. Bless the marriage, and offer to pay 5 cows worth of additional gifts.
4. Disallow the marriage.
5. Suggest that Rastoron would be a better match for Desrada.
(Who's Rastoron? Fuck if I know.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Assuming we can afford it, we should match the generosity of the Kardavi, thus gaining status and respect. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Marriage-bonds between clans build good neighbors. Good neighbors can become allies. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) Our Desrada deserves a good start in her new life. (2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) Ask for another 5 cows. The Kardavi can clearly afford it. (1)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) One marriage is worth a dozen wars. (1, 2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Jarang's bride-gifts are only marginally acceptable for a young woman of Desrada's rank. (1, 2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) The Kardavi look down on us, they do. They'll turn Desrada against us. Soon she'll have forgotten the entire saga of our clan. (4, 5)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 03, 2013, 12:28:07 AM
We don't really need to improve our status, and there's no reason to risk losing a potential alliance, so let's just bless this and be done with it. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 03, 2013, 12:55:41 AM
3 sounds good and very Orlanthi.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on August 03, 2013, 12:56:51 AM
I'll also go with three. Let's be generous.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on August 03, 2013, 01:25:08 AM
2.
BTW, should we look at our ring and the other nobles with an eye for reorganizing?
Also, how good is it that Orlgard and Sartark are on the ring, given that we can send them out on trips?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 03, 2013, 03:56:04 AM
2.
BTW, should we look at our ring and the other nobles with an eye for reorganizing?
Also, how good is it that Orlgard and Sartark are on the ring, given that we can send them out on trips?

Honestly it hasn't been that long since I reorganized after Enerin's death and there wasn't much interesting then, I think e.g. Ferena is a particularly new arrival. Any looking at nobles would probably be towards keeping an eye on young'uns to quest up for when our existing ring starts keeling over, and Janerra is the only one with much risk of doing so anytime soon. Fightmans are at slightly higher risk just because they're more likely to be doing dangerous stuff though.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on August 03, 2013, 05:34:51 AM
2. We can't waste our cows.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 03, 2013, 11:45:34 AM
Last time this happened, we wound up with an ally that has helped save us from starvation, aided in raids, helped us heroquest, and gave us a back rub.

I'll have a 3 with extra food begging and raid assistance sauce, please.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 03, 2013, 01:57:30 PM
Does giving more cows increase our status with the clan that the woman's wedding into, or in general (as in, that bar that marks our reputation as "King")?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 03, 2013, 04:20:07 PM
Does giving more cows increase our status with the clan that the woman's wedding into, or in general (as in, that bar that marks our reputation as "King")?

Pretty sure both.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 03, 2013, 05:22:13 PM
I'll change my vote to 3 then.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 04, 2013, 11:38:20 PM
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Yay weddings. Party time!

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Let's stick with what we know this time.

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When in doubt, fight bravely. (For reals.)

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Huzzah, punching bag.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20084/kodp084-06_zps37480bb4.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20084/kodp084-07_zps4860b4d9.png~original)
Fuck yo cattle raid.

Anyway, literally all of our interesting ladies are Uraldans and thus would be mediocre Engarna replacements if anything (or are Ferena who doesn't really care much about this quest's stats :V), so I'm guessing we're not going to Feed the Stats to the Quester and Janerra's fine to go off and quest here. (I did make a save here first just in case though.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20084/kodp084-08_zpsb4c6dcde.png~original)
The people have gathered their magic to help propel Janerra into the realm of the gods, with the assistance of 30 Blue Spruce.

Thus myth begins with an attack on Ernalda by an enemy, which causes starvation within the Storm Tribe. She goes on a journey to recover Barntar, Esra, and Uralda, the lost gods who will enable her to feed the tribe. What benefit does Janerra seek from this heroquest?

1. Bring back a treasure.
2. Increase crop yields.
3. Make peace with the elves.
4. Make the cows healthy.
(wut. this ain't CowLARP.)
5. Reconcile the grievances of the carls.
6. Strengthen the quester.


And yes I will have the myth posted by update time tomorrow so y'all can consult it for LARP guidance.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 05, 2013, 12:26:23 AM
Mm...3, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong but we already had an elves event, right?
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 05, 2013, 12:34:41 AM
Mm...3, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong but we already had an elves event, right?

If we did it was forever ago and only once. Probably RNG making some random elf trouble and not indicative of elf mood overall.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 05, 2013, 12:37:39 AM
In that case, CHANGING VOTE to 2 We'll get all the crops. ALL OF THEM
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on August 05, 2013, 01:46:01 AM
2. Let's get that food problem dealt with for the long term.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 05, 2013, 02:27:34 AM
We don't really have much choice here. 2
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on August 05, 2013, 03:51:30 AM
I think 1 would be funny. "This is the plus five vorpal foam bat of verisimilitude!"
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on August 05, 2013, 05:09:24 AM
I also vote for option 2.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 05, 2013, 11:49:24 AM
Any idea of just how many different factors go into calculating how well a raid/defense goes? The Elkenvali war bands consistently seem to be comprised of osteoporotic old ladies with knitting needles, the Zenthorings can pull off the occasional upset, and we'll get steamrolled by other groups.
2. Let's get that food problem dealt with for the long term.
Let's bury it. As Orlanth is our witness, we shall never go hungry again!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 05, 2013, 05:00:41 PM
Any idea of just how many different factors go into calculating how well a raid/defense goes? The Elkenvali war bands consistently seem to be comprised of osteoporotic old ladies with knitting needles, the Zenthorings can pull off the occasional upset, and we'll get steamrolled by other groups.

LOTS. Plus Arengee's whim.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 05, 2013, 11:09:21 PM
We have decided to grow ALL THE FOOD.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-01_zpsabcd7cab.png~original)
As soon as she appears in the realm of the gods, Janerra is attacked by a cackling, skeletal figure. It is Daga, god of Drought.

1. Convince Daga to mend his evil ways.
2. Fight back.
3. Leave the realm of the gods.
4. Run away.
5. Suffer Daga's blows.


HEY LOOK I ACTUALLY UPLOADED THE MYTH (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/ernalda_feeds_the_tribe_zps994fcec6.png) maybe it'll help you.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 05, 2013, 11:15:34 PM
Judging by the myth, Daga's going to have to get a blow in. 2.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on August 05, 2013, 11:27:57 PM
5

Just look at our heroine. She'll take anything that skeleton can throw at it and laugh at its face! Just look at her, she's the toughest mofo around! That skeleton tries to punch her, that skeleton will suffer broken bones!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shadoweh on August 05, 2013, 11:32:37 PM
5 Ernalda can take it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 05, 2013, 11:52:20 PM
5 seems legit. After all, while Orlanth is all "VIOLENCE IS ALWAYS AN OPTION RAWR" Ernalda is all about there being another way!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: theshirn on August 06, 2013, 12:02:14 AM
Am I reading different myths than you guys?  Because 1 seems like the correct option, Ernalda just talks everyone down.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 06, 2013, 01:12:21 AM
Am I reading different myths than you guys?  Because 1 seems like the correct option, Ernalda just talks everyone down.

The very start of the myth said that Ernalda was drained of her power, which I think means she gets hurt somehow. A fight is a good way to do that.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 06, 2013, 01:28:47 AM
Am I reading different myths than you guys?  Because 1 seems like the correct option, Ernalda just talks everyone down.

Yeah, An Enemy *cough it's Daga* defeats her and steals her power.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on August 06, 2013, 04:18:30 AM
"Hey you kids, stop beating that old woman with foam bats!"
"No it's OK, we're LARPing a hero quest."
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 06, 2013, 11:46:35 AM
Considering the way it's set up, 1, 2, and 5 all sound like viable options. It's just Ernalda-gets-whupped-by-so-and-so.

5 This is no time for ease and comfort. It is time to dare and endure.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on August 06, 2013, 09:47:56 PM
2. Janerra's not gonna win against shit, might as well make a good show of it if we're gonna get our ass beat.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Keegster2 on August 06, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
2. LET'S BEAT UP OURSELVES A GOD.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 06, 2013, 11:16:20 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-02_zpsb7068a0c.png~original)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-03_zps5656c2e5.png~original)
Janerra knows that many things which seem to be dead are really just hiding in the earth. Daga has dried up many things, and so the usual holes in the earth are gone. Janerra needs to find a new way of making a hole. So Janerra goes to Ernalda's grandchildren, the Aldryami, and asks them for one of their seeds. The elves are reluctant to help. "You abandoned us, Ernalda, and joined our enemies, the meat-men. These meat-men, this new tribe of yours, they are forest-killers. And those who kill forests kill us."

1. Convince them you are no traitor.
2. Leave the realm of the gods.
3. Offer them a gift of magic.
4. Remind them that they are your grandchildren.
5. Tell them that Daga's drought will affect them, too.


The myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/ernalda_feeds_the_tribe_zps994fcec6.png) are actually kinda crap for this whole quest when you don't have the deeper secrets. (But really the Daga question doesn't get better even then.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 06, 2013, 11:38:33 PM
We don't need no sekrits. 5, no interest like self interest!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on August 06, 2013, 11:50:50 PM
Wouldn't Daga be a bigger forest-killer than meat-men? 5
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on August 07, 2013, 12:17:56 AM
Hrm...  Possibly 1  Since this is one of the "make friends with elves" quests, maybe we're supposed to convince them meat peoples are good peoples.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shadoweh on August 07, 2013, 03:57:09 AM
Elves are always dicks, it's teh law. 5.
( I didn't look at any of the myths before questing. I'm sure nothing bad happened)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 07, 2013, 11:46:02 AM
5-ish? The connection between the legend and what's going on has been real foggy so far.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 07, 2013, 11:20:44 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-04_zps27279225.png~original)
... well OK we also had someone vote for 1?

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Well shit. There's not much left so I'm just gonna go through things instead of another vote.

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OK FINALLY. (For what it's worth all this process actually shows is that the RNG hates Janerra. The "canon" answer was
1
but the other just-talky options are supposed to have a chance too. :V)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-08_zps73a924f9.png~original)
The seed is called Adborl, and it is a burrowing thing that makes a big tunnel into the earth for Janerra. Janerra goes into the tunnel, where she finds Ernalda's terrible sister, Maran Gor, the earthquake goddess. She has taken Barntar as her thrall. "Your son, he helps me to break up the earth into pieces, so that I can hurl it at our enemies. You think that this fight with Orlanth's nephew was a terrible thing, but it is merely the harbringer of what is to come. The kinstrife he caused will soon bring about other bad things. Three bad gods will force Orlanth to give him their blessing, and together they will make a god that is worse than all of them put together. I need Barntar to help me fight them."

1. Look for Esra and Uralda.
2. Leave the realm of the gods.
3. "Love is stronger than hate."
4. Offer her blood in exchange for Barntar.
5. Offer her earthshakers in exchange for Barntar.
6. "Without Barntar to plow the lands, there will be no reason to fight."


The myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/ernalda_feeds_the_tribe_zps994fcec6.png) are actually kinda crap for this whole quest when you don't have the deeper secrets. Maybe they'll help anyway?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on August 07, 2013, 11:28:40 PM
Yeah the myths are terrible.

6 seems the best choice from an actual debate standpoint.  Then again with the rng....
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 07, 2013, 11:28:56 PM
6 sounds legit.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on August 07, 2013, 11:30:41 PM
This is stronger than hate. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhrBDcQq2DM)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 07, 2013, 11:34:23 PM
Yeah the myths are terrible.

Though I guess it's kinda fitting since Ernalda is also the goddess most strongly associated with magic and the occult (in all senses of the word especially the "hidden knowledge" sort)?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 07, 2013, 11:59:28 PM
By Eurmal's beard, what is that beast?! it has 5 chins and its triceps are still swaying 3 seconds after its arm stops! Slay it with a Caesar's salad, yoga pants, and a subscription to Runner's World before it undulates towards us!

We get him back one way or another. Do different answers that all lead to the same result play to different strengths of the LARPer? Either way, 6.

WAIT TAKE THE YOGA PANTS BACK! AAAUGH! :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on August 08, 2013, 01:09:52 AM
I know people who are fatter than this.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 08, 2013, 01:40:54 AM
By Eurmal's beard, what is that beast?! it has 5 chins and its triceps are still swaying 3 seconds after its arm stops! Slay it with a Caesar's salad, yoga pants, and a subscription to Runner's World before it undulates towards us!

Hey man, Maran Gor lets us water our crops with the blood of our enemies. She lets us nuke the fuck out of our enemies' harvests. Dinosaurs are sacred to her. Also remember that time when Enerin called on the dark side of the earth. Maran Gor is awesome.

Also her priestesses are cannibals so we probably don't want to piss her off.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on August 08, 2013, 01:54:14 AM
5, who wants that boring guy anyway when you can have DINOSAURS?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 08, 2013, 02:27:25 AM
Maybe this is how dinos became sacred to her in the first place. 5
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Post by: Kingault on August 08, 2013, 08:14:02 PM
I'll pick 5 due to sounding more interesting than 6.
My logic is flawless.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on August 08, 2013, 10:37:29 PM
Question: Does a Vingan work for all Orlanth-worshipper tasks, for example being Chief?
I bought this game and have started a clan several times.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 08, 2013, 11:23:58 PM
Question: Does a Vingan work for all Orlanth-worshipper tasks, for example being Chief?
I bought this game and have started a clan several times.

They basically always work as whichever would be more advantageous. :V

e.g. they count as Orlanth for chief but themselves for the getting magic for ring diversity
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shadoweh on August 08, 2013, 11:28:11 PM
7 Just pick the right answers that's what people will do anyways
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 08, 2013, 11:37:35 PM
<ArashiKurobara> ... oh oops.
<ArashiKurobara> I shouldn't have just copypasta'd the options from the wiki for the heroquest
<ArashiKurobara> ... the earthshaker choice only comes up when you have earthshakers to give. :V

It was a tie anyway though and even if we did have earthshakers I'd've tiebroken with the option that doesn't make us give things up. :V seriously you guys even if we did have earthshakers why would you want to lose them for this

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-09_zps4b17348b.png~original)
Janerra: failing at
canon answers since
this whole heroquest. I swear to god this quest is usually easy.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-10_zpscf19b7dd.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-11_zps89eb5126.png~original)
Welp, we lost some people. I guess we'll have an even easier time feeding the tribe (by which I mean our clan) later? :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-12_zps4a73f27d.png~original)
Janerra goes further into the tunnel, where she finds the cavern of Ernalda's terrible aunt, Ty Kora Tek, goddess of the dead. Ty Kora Tek has been collecting dead souls in her cavern. During the troubles with Daga, Uralda and Esra wandered in, seeking protection. Janerra asks Ty Kora Tek to release the two bountiful goddesses. But Ty Kora Tek refuses: "What comes into my realm cannot come back out again. I cannot set a bad precedent now and just let out anyone who has a good reason to leave. Very bad times are coming, the halls of the dead will soon be fill to bursting with the slain."

1. Continue the quest.
2. "Esra and Uralda will disturb things here, making life where there should be death."
3. Leave the realm of the gods.
4. "Take others of the storm tribe in exchange for these two."
5. "Without Esra and Uralda, the people will starve."
6. "You are my aunt, you must listen to my pleas."


I PROMISE we actually have all these choices this time. :V

The myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/ernalda_feeds_the_tribe_zps994fcec6.png) are actually kinda crap for this whole quest when you don't have the deeper secrets. Maybe they'll help anyway?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 08, 2013, 11:38:04 PM
7 Just pick the right answers that's what people will do anyways

This isn't the Something Awful LP where everyone reading already knows the right answers from past LPs anyway. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 08, 2013, 11:47:20 PM
2 has a certain sort of logic to it.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on August 09, 2013, 12:27:09 AM
2 is the reasonable useful answer.  Which is why it will fail.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on August 09, 2013, 12:39:59 AM
Yeah, two sounds the most logical to me.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on August 09, 2013, 12:41:46 AM
2 is the reasonable useful answer.  Which is why it will fail.

Really, I got nothing to add.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 09, 2013, 01:25:50 AM
2 is the reasonable useful answer.  Which is why it will fail.
Mmmmyep. 2

Will all these failures negatively impact our rewards?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 09, 2013, 01:52:33 AM
Will all these failures negatively impact our rewards?

Unless we fail so hard that we run out of options besides "leave", nope. :V

Heroquest success/failure is (mostly) a binary state, and even the exceptions aren't a question of degree. (True/false/file not found? :V)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Yaersulf on August 09, 2013, 03:51:29 AM
2, or 5 if it fails. Janerra requires one to have a plan b (or c, or even d).
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 09, 2013, 11:10:10 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-13_zps69506e55.png~original)
STAHP JANERRA. STAHP. Quit being a failure.

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-14_zps08f027a4.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-15_zps1a7c139c.png~original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-16_zps467816f2.png~original)
Welp. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20085/kodp085-17_zps98fa8ce4.png~original)
Janerra seeks to leave the earthen tunnel with the gods she has rescued. But a terrible woman blocks their way, looking fierce and brandishing an axe. "You cannot leave here. The tribe is sundered, and cannot be so easily mended. Your man committed kinstrife, and so I, who have not been born yet, have been charged with the task of keeping broken things broken."

1. "I myself will come to the place of the dead, and you will seek to avenge me."
2. "I will give you blood if you let us pass."
3. "I will give you magic if you let me pass."
4. Leave the realm of the gods.
5. "You are my daughter, and so must let me pass."


The myths (http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/myths/ernalda_feeds_the_tribe_zps994fcec6.png) are actually kinda crap for this whole quest when you don't have the deeper secrets. Maybe they'll help anyway?

Janerra's constant failure is actually kind of hilarious because you guys are mostly voting right. You're better at this than she is. =P
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 09, 2013, 11:14:24 PM
5. If Ernalda's daughter kills her, she won't be born, thus creating a time paradox.

we're going to be forced to pick 2 again aren't we
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on August 09, 2013, 11:16:44 PM
5. If Ernalda's daughter kills her, she won't be born, thus creating a time paradox.

we're going to be forced to pick 2 again aren't we
Yep. ^^;
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on August 09, 2013, 11:34:43 PM
Five makes the most sense.
...No doubt, this won't work, looking at the previous choices....
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 10, 2013, 12:37:07 AM
The correct answers simply aren't  working. Only violence will solve stuff in this heroquest. 2
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Post by: Keegster2 on August 10, 2013, 02:02:57 AM
2. I wonder if she has a secret bloodlust?
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Post by: Stuffman on August 10, 2013, 02:17:56 AM
Actually, fuck it, yes. 2.

It's too late to wash the blood from Janerra's hands. We've come too far to stop now. >:D
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Post by: Shadoweh on August 10, 2013, 03:30:06 AM
I'm outvotted for 1, but I'll consolidate for 5. Also I don't think we'll get a chance to give blood.
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Post by: Yaersulf on August 10, 2013, 09:15:05 AM
1, this sounds bullshit and vague enough to be a correct mythological answer.

Also:

Janerra:"Guys I did it, I finished the hero quest. :D"
Entire clan: *Dead*
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Post by: O4rfish on August 10, 2013, 10:39:03 AM
1, this sounds bullshit and vague enough to be a correct mythological answer.

Also:

Janerra:"Guys I did it, I finished the hero quest. :D"
Entire clan: *Dead*

This whole post.


In my game, I did all the trading for money, then sacced it all for mysteries. I love how the Issaries quest and the Lhankor Mhy quest go together.
Issaries asked Know-It-All for help, interrupting some pointless thing the god was doing.
Talks-Too-Much comes and bugs Lhankor Mhy about some trivial feud between two clans that are not even part of our tribe.
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Post by: Kingault on August 10, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
I'll actually be surprised if 5 works and we don't have to go with 2.
I'm half-tempted to change my vote to 2 just to go along with the previous "correct" choices, but really, I think we've lost enough people already.
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Post by: Von Stein on August 10, 2013, 09:15:56 PM
1
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 11, 2013, 03:05:41 AM
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But but but PIME TARADOX. Never mind that time works kinda funny on the Godplane.

2 was technically next in votes but I'd rather save actually murdering our clan for the last-ditch effo---

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... well fuck.

... savescum! (I was going to screenshot any time we failed less than in the attempt we've been on, but no we are just as fail.)

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... orz. I mean at least we have that Vingan we could slap on the ring now in training for being awesome eventually but stiiiilllllllllllllll. Besides our magic plummets from this, ill fortune is right. Again!

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what. (though oops I was starting with "right" answers but I forgot which one was for this one. Maybe that would have worked too.)

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What.

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WHAT.

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\o/

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Janerra returns to the land of mortals, her quest a successful one. The people rejoiced, looking forwards to overflowing bushels now that crop yields would improve.

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tl;dr Elkenvali surrender. 23 cows.

1. Demand more cows.
2. Demand cows every year.
3. Be a backstabbing shithead.
(remember it's Earth still and the backstabbing would be right now.)
4. Be an honest shithead.
5. Yeah okay we'll take your offer.


Advice: COWS. (Orlgard thinks we can get a one-time payment of as many as 34 but he's the only actual number given here.)
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Von Stein on August 11, 2013, 03:11:53 AM
2 The usual?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 11, 2013, 03:17:14 AM
what the ever loving hell just happened back in the godrealm
i don't
...

 1, 75 cows. They won't agree, and then we'll raid them again. Everything is fine in the world.
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Post by: Jana on August 11, 2013, 03:30:38 AM
Wow.

Also, 2 as usual, we could always use more free cows and can always raid someone else.
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Post by: Iced Fairy on August 11, 2013, 05:46:28 AM
2
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Post by: O4rfish on August 11, 2013, 07:17:20 AM
Mission Failed It was all just a dream!
1, 34
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Post by: Kingault on August 11, 2013, 06:14:40 PM
...What.

Also, 2.
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 11, 2013, 11:09:57 PM
2 sounds good. Also I get back from Otakon and WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS O_O?
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 12, 2013, 12:01:51 AM
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I go for what seems like a fairly tame annual tribute, but no bites.

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... next year, then. Next year, we reap Ernalda's bounty. (Earth was still the best season to do it in but I guess it doesn't come in quite in time to help that year's harvest when you do.)

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And yet another vampire attack.

1. De-vamp the kid.
2. Sit on our thumbs.
3. Cows for Humakt.
4. Goods for Urox.
5. Go Van Helsing on its ass. If we can find it. "If" being the operative word.
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Post by: Kingault on August 12, 2013, 12:05:28 AM
Let's tend to the victim, so 1.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 12, 2013, 12:13:42 AM
1 then 4.
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Post by: Jana on August 12, 2013, 12:16:08 AM
We always tend to the victim, and then we don't get a chance to attack. I say we try to stop it this time. 5
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 12, 2013, 12:45:13 AM
We always tend to the victim, and then we don't get a chance to attack.

Yes we do we just keep failing at it.
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Post by: Iced Fairy on August 12, 2013, 01:43:44 AM
1, 5 and hope we don't fail again.
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Post by: Jana on August 12, 2013, 01:56:56 AM
Yes we do we just keep failing at it.

Oh, I guess we're just losers then. ;-;
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 12, 2013, 01:58:34 AM
Does the advice ever change on this one? 1 then 5
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Post by: Sagus on August 12, 2013, 11:37:29 AM
Cure and hunt. 1, 5
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Post by: Reddyne on August 12, 2013, 12:10:53 PM
As unsavory as the savescumming was, the quest itself is something we'd probably plug at until we got it down anyhow, and the legend was unsatisfying to attempt to replicate.

If this hunt for Ed Sparkles doesn't go well, it'll probably be better to sacrifice.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 12, 2013, 11:33:33 PM
As unsavory as the savescumming was, the quest itself is something we'd probably plug at until we got it down anyhow, and the legend was unsatisfying to attempt to replicate.

I mean shit I was just looking for a failure that didn't give us, like, negative a zillion magic. But I'll take a massive string of natural 20s.

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(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20088/kodp088-02_zps0bdaa28e.png~original)
I think Iskalli might actually be our best chance at vampire hunting. He's actually pretty decent at damn near everything.

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Send along a small band so as not to alert the bloodsucker... and nope.

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Looking for just more blessings in general, started with Elmal since once we've truly restabilized it might be worth expanding some of our more vital shrines into temples (and you need to keep your chief god's largest), but Horsefriend (prolongs the life of horses) is the sad miserable Elmal blessing. :V

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Wilms, a thane of the Badger clan, asks you for a gift of luck and divine favor on behalf of his people. He reminds you that you owe them a favor.

1. Give him nothing.
2. Give less than the customary amount.
3. Give them more than the customary amount.
4. Give them the customary amount.
5. Offer him gifts instead.
6. "Our clan magic is weak right now."


(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) We owe them a favor, but don't necessarily have to give them exactly what they want, exactly when they want it. (2, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) Their warriors are few, and ill-equipped. We should curry the favor of the strong, and forget about these weaklings. (1, 2, 5)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) Our clan magic is unusually strong; we can afford to be generous. If we say otherwise, they will know it. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original)(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) If we are generous, it will be easier to bargain with them in the future. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) If we give him more than he asks, we will gain a reputation for generosity, which will help us politically. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) Bad King Urgrain owed many favors. When thanes of other kingdoms came to collect these favors, he said, "I am doing you a favor by leaving your heads on your shoulders."
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Post by: Reddyne on August 13, 2013, 01:10:35 AM
How's our relationship with them right now? If it's real solid or this will cost a lot of magic, then 4. If we're not perfect bosom buddies and/or this won't take much, then 3.

I still think Umathkar looks like she had a home and garden show on PBS that ran from 1991 to 1997.
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Post by: Kingault on August 13, 2013, 01:55:31 AM
How's our relationship with them right now? If it's real solid or this will cost a lot of magic, then 4. If we're not perfect bosom buddies and/or this won't take much, then 3.

I still think Umathkar looks like she had a home and garden show on PBS that ran from 1991 to 1997.

I think I'll second this.
The 4 if X 3 if Y bit, I mean, not the show bit.
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Post by: Keegster2 on August 13, 2013, 03:22:21 AM
4. It feels nice to be nice.
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 13, 2013, 03:37:44 AM
Why is MOSDORL of all people advocating the Orlanthi option? Be generous and repay your favors! 3
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Post by: Reddyne on August 13, 2013, 01:10:45 PM
Upon further review, they seem to be waaaaay in the bottom corner of the map.with a moderately high opinion of us, but not perfect. Admittedly, this was from one quarter of a thread ago.

So yeah, 3.
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Post by: Sagus on August 13, 2013, 04:32:43 PM
Let's be generous. 3
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Post by: Von Stein on August 13, 2013, 07:35:51 PM
I suppose we can show off. 3
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 13, 2013, 11:55:33 PM
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Here's yer 4 magic, nice and fresh!

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With all those vampires running around all the damn time I figure one of Urox's non-Berserker blessings may be of use. Smite Chaos, quite logically, helps us beat up Chaos better. (I'm still not sure it'll help us find vampires in the first place to beat their faces in, but it'll at least help us stave off any undead buddies that might decide the place looks good...)

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And pop that up straightaway. (Not sure whether it defaults to Berserker or Smite Chaos out of the two we have, but switching what blessing a shrine gives doesn't take an action anyway so I can swap first thing next time if it's Berserker.)

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A delegation of Thunder Ducks come to your clan hall demanding redress for the slayings of their kinsmen. 3 ducks were killed by nobles of your clan, or so they allege. They say that they are as Orlanthi as we, and demand compensation for these killings. They say that the slain were nobles and deserving the full wergild of a warrior thane, 20 cows, paid in silver.

1. Pay a carl's wergild for each dead duck.
2. Pay a cottar's wergild for each dead duck.
3. Pay a thane's wergild for each dead duck.
4. Reject their claim.
5. Demand tribute from them.
6. Offer to pay in cattle.


(It's not clear offhand from anything I can find what the exact values are for 1 and 2, but it will definitely be thane > carl > cottar.)

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) They are Orlanthi, but their versions of proper customs are peculiar.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) The ducks are no threat to us. On the other hand, their cousins, the beastfolk, could fall upon our tula and destroy us. (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) How can... this is a bad situation, but we cannot admit... to the contrary, we should take this... take situation and...
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) They want to be respected as proper Orlanthi, which means getting the full wergild we would pay for slain humans.
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) We have already done them harm. do not threaten them further. (1, 2, 3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) We are poor. Pay as little as possible. (2)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) The ducks claim to be descended from a great, vanished Empire called Ganderland.
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Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 14, 2013, 12:00:27 AM
3. DON'T FUCK WITH DUCKS. Also Outlaw Jornik from the ring. HE HAS VIOLATED THE GOLDEN RULE!
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Post by: Von Stein on August 14, 2013, 12:35:58 AM
Owch. That warrants the putting of heads onto a few spare stakes. 3

... and what can we do as fas as investigating this goes?
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Post by: Stuffman on August 14, 2013, 12:39:43 AM
Ugggh fuck, so what is that, 60 goods? That's gonna hurt...3 regardless.
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Post by: Sagus on August 14, 2013, 02:13:15 AM
Well at least they don't want food. 3
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Post by: Reddyne on August 14, 2013, 11:50:00 AM
This is a huge amount of goods, but we have a lot more than we've had since... I'm not looking back through the thread that much. 3 considering we can afford it and we've always benefitted from having lots of bosom chums. Also, why silver?

How was the canard a l'orange last night, Jonrik? You don't sound the least bit suspicious at all.
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Post by: Sagus on August 14, 2013, 12:06:12 PM
Also, why silver?
It's the currency of the realm. Not that it's worth much; cattle is much more important.
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Post by: theshirn on August 14, 2013, 01:15:12 PM
Clearly we must pay them :10dux:
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 14, 2013, 04:16:17 PM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) The ducks claim to be descended from a great, vanished Empire called Ganderland.

3 and maybe look into replacing Jonrik because he sure sounds suspicious.
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Post by: Reddyne on August 14, 2013, 05:40:27 PM
It's the currency of the realm. Not that it's worth much; cattle is much more important.
Makes sense considering that actual ducks stick to insects and small fish for prey at most. Their culture doesn't seem to revolve around barbeques.
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Post by: Kingault on August 15, 2013, 03:32:15 AM
Yeah, let's go with three.
Gotta take responsibility for one's people and all that.
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Post by: Keegster2 on August 15, 2013, 09:35:41 PM
3. It'll hurt, but we will remain friends.
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 16, 2013, 01:50:13 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20090/kodp090-01_zpsc2441267.png~original)
It's expensive, but no cost is too great to remain TRUE DUCKBROS.

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Einarth Milk-Eyes, and old man from a faraway clan, comes to visit you. He is renowned as a prophet. "A great kingdom I see before me. Its foundation, a tribe built of this tula's timber. I see a union of opposites, a marriage to the Queen of Feathers. I see triumph, if these clan halls contain sufficient wit and bravery."

1. End the feud with the Elkenvali clan.
2. Gift Einarth.
3. Ignore the prophecy.
4. Immediately begin assembling a tribe.
5. Offer him a place in your clan.
6. Wait for a while, then assemble a tribe.


The ring's advice is all pretty boring, and this event is really important. So have my advice instead.

We pick, 6, waiting 3-5 years, to get us some time to build up resources to gift the fuck out of everyone. (And do some relationship-building and political-blessing-amassing in the interim too.) If we're really lucky we might even be able to learn and pull off a friendship-bombing heroquest in that time too.

Still giving a vote time in case someone really wants to do something else, and at least to pick how many years we wait. (The max is 5.)

Well, and if anyone really really wants to see the ring advice on this just say it and I'll cap it but it's mostly "oh hey a *tribe*!" or "huhwha?"
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Post by: Von Stein on August 16, 2013, 02:20:38 AM
6

Not sure what to say about time though.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 16, 2013, 02:32:10 AM
6 for 5 years. Also, let's work on ending our feud with the Elkenvali, the other dudes we're feuding with can become our punching bags.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 16, 2013, 11:39:00 AM
Would've preferred to build things up a bit more, but it is what it is. 6 for the full length of 5 years.

Methinks our excellent diplomacy via bribery has and will serve us well.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on August 16, 2013, 12:25:21 PM
I don't think 5 years is enough time to accumulate the gifts necessary to get elected chief of tribe, and successfully building a tribe without getting elected chief would be really irritating.
3
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Hello Purvis on August 16, 2013, 12:31:29 PM
I'm feeling #6.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Stuffman on August 16, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
Yeah, 6 for 5.

We'll bide our time. Waiting. Waiting...and then one day when they least expect it, BAM, we'll make them all be our friends!!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 16, 2013, 04:37:21 PM
Yeah, 6 for 5.

We'll bide our time. Waiting. Waiting...and then one day when they least expect it, BAM, we'll make them all be our friends!!
Yeah! Reimu/Nanoha style!
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 16, 2013, 04:55:49 PM
I don't think 5 years is enough time to accumulate the gifts necessary to get elected chief of tribe, and successfully building a tribe without getting elected chief would be really irritating.
3

From what I understand kings don't last long, and it can be better to let someone else have the glory of the first king and bide our time.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 16, 2013, 05:12:44 PM
I don't think we really have a choice here. 6, wait 5 years.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Kingault on August 16, 2013, 05:31:54 PM
6 for 5 years.
Also, I'd like to see what the ring has to say about it, even if it's pointless.
Perhaps it will be amusing.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 16, 2013, 10:34:56 PM
From what I understand kings don't last long, and it can be better to let someone else have the glory of the first king and bide our time.

Yes this. Just making a tribe can get pretty expensive as it is, and NPC kings/queens have a tendency to drop dead in a couple years. :V
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: O4rfish on August 16, 2013, 11:09:38 PM
Would we want an encore performance of Making The Storm Tribe for Odin's blessing?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 17, 2013, 01:22:34 AM
OK since someone did want the ring advice from this event :V :
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/iskalli_zps0369030a.png:original) Long have I studied the laws governing tribal obligations, in preparation for this day. (4, 6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/orlgard2_zps5b099b19.png~original) We have many enemies. It would be good to have many allies. (1, 4)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/jonrik_zpsbadfc1cc.png~original) Marriage with the Queen of Feathers? Who?
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/sartark_zps49c6569b.png:original) I am confident that I can make the deals needed to form a tribe. (1, 4, 6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/janerra_zps1325340d.png~original) This may be what we've been waiting for. (4, 5, 6)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/engarna_zpsb167d905.png:original) A tribe? We left Heortland to escape the smothering grip of tribes! (3)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/data/nobles/mosdorl_zps51c62433.png:original) Feathers? Queen? Does some poor thane get to marry a duck? (OK yeah it's worth it just for this one.)

Also here's no blurb after you pick how long to wait (I did pick 5 years). :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20091/kodp091-01_zps88f69071.png~original)
Switched the Urox shrine over to Smite Chaos (since it did default to Berserker after all), then some work on trying to stock up piles and piles of loot to try to buy tribemates with. :V

(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20091/kodp091-02_zpsd70db7ba.png~original)
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/arashikurobara/Lets%20Play/King%20of%20Dragon%20Pass/Update%20091/kodp091-03_zps70cfdd2e.png~original)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Sacred Time.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 17, 2013, 01:29:16 AM
Would we want an encore performance of Making The Storm Tribe for Odin's blessing?

It's weird, I thought we actually had to but there's a separate Einarth event that totally tells you "Hey do this quest!" that should pop before the one we got if we still needed to so it seems like just having done it for anything might still count? Worst case I'm trying to use actual game saves at least every Sacred Time and while I've missed a few I do have one for right now, so that's the absolute furthest we'd have to rewind.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 17, 2013, 03:16:20 PM
I'm so bad at these! Are we being harassed to Heroquast yet? If so what are our options? I'd vaguely like to use Storm Tribe to strengthen our Vingan for eventual rulership, I think. Also, we're going to make ALL THE ALLIES, and work on ending feud with Elkenvali. Let's beat up on the Zethnorings from now on

Also Take Jornik off the ring. HE IS NOT A DUCK BRO >=[
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 17, 2013, 03:47:13 PM
Why should we stop our feud with the Elkenvali just to continue one with the Zethnorings? If anything, we should go the other way around, as the Elkenvali hate us to the bones and, because of our continous raids on them, are pretty damn weak, while the Zethonrigs would more easily forgive us and would be more useful allies.

What's the other heroquest we have, again?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 17, 2013, 04:27:09 PM
We're not being harassed to heroquest we just quested, we know Storm Tribe, Elmal, and Ernalda, and I have no idea whether that was Jonrik being suspicious or having the noble quirk where sometimes they just sputter like that.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Reddyne on August 17, 2013, 06:00:31 PM
Is there any place on the map we have yet to explore?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 17, 2013, 06:30:55 PM
Why should we stop our feud with the Elkenvali just to continue one with the Zethnorings? If anything, we should go the other way around, as the Elkenvali hate us to the bones and, because of our continous raids on them, are pretty damn weak, while the Zethonrigs would more easily forgive us and would be more useful allies.

What's the other heroquest we have, again?

IIRC the prophecy said we would make peace with the Elkenvali by marriage. Unless I misunderstood! Arashi might have to clarify. I'm all for grinding the Elkenvali to dust and making nice with the Zethnorings if we have no reason to keep Elkies around
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Sagus on August 17, 2013, 07:15:15 PM
IIRC the prophecy said we would make peace with the Elkenvali by marriage. Unless I misunderstood! Arashi might have to clarify. I'm all for grinding the Elkenvali to dust and making nice with the Zethnorings if we have no reason to keep Elkies around
He mentions an union of opposites through a marriage with the Queen of Feathers. I don't think this relates to the Elkenvali... does it?

I just thought that this "opposite" would be a clan that'd appear on a later, scripted event, instead of a clan that we already know.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: UncertainJakutten on August 17, 2013, 07:17:15 PM
Hrm, well, I guess it depends who the Queen of Feathers is. Wouldn't it say in the blurbs about the various clans, Arashi?
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Iced Fairy on August 17, 2013, 07:31:59 PM
Not sure if Arashi wants to keep this secreter but for those more spoiler inclined:

The queen of feathers is a pretty big deal.  We'll know her when we see her.  Probably.  Maybe.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 18, 2013, 03:15:04 AM
Not sure if Arashi wants to keep this secreter but for those more spoiler inclined:

The queen of feathers is a pretty big deal.  We'll know her when we see her.  Probably.  Maybe.

That's about all the spoiler I want to spoil yeah. :V

Well that and no this isn't about the Elkenvali. At all.

p.s. I am way too exhausted for an update tonight, tomorrow's update will also commence THREAD 2.
Title: Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 18, 2013, 11:35:00 PM
Second thread here, (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15373.0.html) everyone.