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The DotA2 thread for general discussions and what ever so on.
Notes:
Currently a halloween event is going on until 12th November. In a nut shell, both teams fight and race for the most candies and get fancy items which normally are pain to get in regular play. Read more on dota2 blog (http://blog.dota2.com/).
DotA2 is the sequel to DotA available on the steam platform and currently free to play*. It is basically classic stuff in a new coat (not entirely true). Either way, the game is still treated as "beta" which disallows anyone from freely entering. To enter you must be either invited by someone who has a DotA2-gift or randomly by luck selected by the DotA2 survey. Filling out this survey (http://www.dota2.com/survey/experience/) grants you chance to enter, although some people get their invites within 2 weeks and some are still waiting. The game has no region lock, so anybody can play anywhere as long as you're fine with the latency.
*Unless you don't want to wait the survey and join by paying
The best beginner guide and other stuff in history (no seriously, read them if you intend to learn the game):
> Welcome to DotA. You suck. (http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suck)
> Ultimate guide to warding (http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/blogs/DotA/1092/Dota-2-Ultimate-Guide-to-Warding/)
> Character guides from DotA at playdota.com (http://www.playdota.com/guides) (not newbie friendly due to the WC3 icons)
List of people who wish to reveal themselves on Steam. List shows: <steamname> (forum name if required)
Seems like people keep changing their ingame nicks which makes it hard to detect/update this list. Stop changing you addicts =[
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↑↑↓↓←→←→ⒷⒶ headcrabs
AediousDeAero Yog-N
Amra Amra
nathelis Amra
apr0396 EP
Bill.TK Z_god
Chaotick Chao
darkslime7 Darkslime
ドラキュラ Dorakyura
도미오 Dormio
Dr Rawr nurse rawr
Dular Dular
elcye elcye
EP Shortselling Programme EP
FFMaster FFMaster
Flandre Scarlet Princess Flandre(Ace-Royale)
gamecubic gamecubic
Greshdaf Tapsa
hazurd Biohazurd
Helepolis Helepolis
Hero999 Hero999
Infinity Infinity
KFCBBQ KFCBBQ
Loolicon Messiah
lumber_of_the_beast Lumby
magnaduelist Magna
MidnightReimu AkurouNyan
pandas Panda
Pesco Inaba Tewi
Prodyparrot Colt
PX_TimeforDeath PX
Renko_Usami Deviox
Rikter Rikter
rizock :o)
SeppoHoviTouhou SeppHovi
SiG Apharmdb
Takahashi Minami/Amae Koromo(PX)
Thanuris Thanuris
TheGaPKerigis Kerigis
TransientStar DollS
trancell TranceHime
Yaersulf Yaersulf
Yadogari Yadogari
Youkai Jesus Youkai Jesus
Yukarin Yukarin
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Dorakyura or ドラキュラ should be my current nickname, Something like this ^^
But I don't have much time to play anyway
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Aaaaand I can't run DotA 2 properly on this computer so I have to wait a couple weeks for a new PC.
Steam is one of the many icons below.
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check my steam details in my profile, communityid: xlotte
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I've played DotA for a couple of years, and yeah, I do have the DotA 2 beta key aswell, I just haven't got time to log onto steam lately. If someone wishes to throw me a friend invite, go on, the link to my ID should be somewhere around my signature's rightmost corner.
However, I've mainly played with friends for the few years I've spent playing this game, and I will probably keep doing it in the future aswell, so I will pick my IRL friends over you people. But of course, if I happen to have time and nothing else to do, I'm always up for some DotA2.
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I'm in the Beta as well - Steam profile's in sig.
I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum as most of you though, having very little prior experience with DotA and this type of RTS. So expect me to either spectate most of the time or play other games (especially TF2) instead.
Also, Dr. Kleiner announcer pack (http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/22/dota-2-patch-files-tease-microtransactions-masks-taunts-and-dr-kleiner-included/)...as a Half-Life fan, this is such a great tease.
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Also in the beta, but I don't play much now that I'm playing LoL and SC2 all the time. Feel free to add though~ Info is in sig
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I have my Dota 2 invite (Steam profile below) but I've never played it. I've never played the original DotA either. And I hate LoL with a passion. And I spend too much time on TF21.
Yeah, don't play with me unless you WANT to lose.
1 only 87.6 hours in the past 2 weeks
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Look for amraphenson on steam.
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Lycan's a dick
New Antimage of pubstomping
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I thought this board was for games hosted on MotK servers.
HELEPOLICE, YOU ARE UNDER ARREST!
There's a link to my steam account in that weird forum thing down there. BRB stalking everyone and adding themAdd me if you want.
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Dr Rawr, still waiting on meepo or wisp to be added
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Except for the match I played with Dormio 2x, almost every game had Rikimaru. Stealth units =.=
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Take Slardar to counterpick. Or just be Riki yourself.
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Good to see list updated, but under MotK nick, change はたた to EP for the sake of consistency, thanks.
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Except for the match I played with Dormio 2x, almost every game had Rikimaru. Stealth units =.=
buy some dust or a gem
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Play like the bots used to
Gem first/
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So apparently this is what happens when a hexed character kills someone. (http://imgur.com/a/b0ZzD)
Would add myself, but I'm unable to play it at the moment, I'll add when I can.
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Feel free to add me to the steam list. Can't play atm, but ill be able too when ever. Link to my steam is below. Just dont expecte to be any good
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So apparently this is what happens when a hexed character kills someone. (http://imgur.com/a/b0ZzD)
Check out Witch Doctor as a chicken!
Anyway, very happy I got invited, now playing Dota 2 whenever I have free time. I do hope they focus on implementing on the yet to be carried over heroes, though.
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I wonder what happens when you queue with more than 5 people anyway.
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I wonder what happens when you queue with more than 5 people anyway.
"Team is full"
you can#t queue with more then 5 people
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Yesterday we had a 5v5 in-house Motk match. Though the game was suddenly unexpected one-sided, it was good to have an in-house game. (Game was held around 22:00 GMT+1). The players were:
Panda, Headcrabs, Pesco, Rikter, DrRawr vs Faf (RL friend), Helepolis, Amra, PX, Dorakyura
(see any of these noobs for replay)
Definitely should do this more often imo so please idle/visit #dots-meido and keep an eye on Rinnosuke or Keine list.
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Panda, Headcrabs, Pesco, Rikter, DrRawr vs Faf (RL friend), Helepolis, Amra, PX, Dorakyura
(see any of these noobs for replay)
Wait, how does the replay function work in DotA 2?
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Just search people's game histories and click on the download replay button.
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Hello there. Eye am Youkai Jesus for Steam ID. May or may not include Averruncus.
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Hello there. Eye am Youkai Jesus for Steam ID.
No idiots allowed.
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Panda, Headcrabs, Pesco, Rikter, DrRawr vs Faf (RL friend), Helepolis, Amra, PX, Dorakyura
(see any of these noobs for replay)
MatchID 8734055
:D
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Invoker is so strange.
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Tonight we plan to hold a in-house 5 vs 5 DotA2 match. Goal is to fool around, have fun and rage at each other while being on TS. Logically due to time-zone issues, we'll have to call it around 22:00 GMT+1 if you can make it there, be on #dots-meido and keep an eye on Rinnosuke.
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Tonight we plan to hold a in-house 5 vs 5 DotA2 match. Goal is to fool around, have fun and rage at each other while being on TS. Logically due to time-zone issues, we'll have to call it around 22:00 GMT+1 if you can make it there, be on #dots-meido and keep an eye on Rinnosuke.
=( I want /in badly but I might not be able to make it =|
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We'll also have a session in the weekend as well (if I can make that one :V)
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I'd be willing to join a game if I'm free anytime (which is likely during weekends). Steam ID is prodyparrot
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5v5 inhouse turned into a 4v4 ( timezones in weekdays ftw ). So we are going to retry this in the weekend once more.
Roughly planned: Saturday around 14:00 GMT+1
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Yesterday we had 1 in-house DotA2 after some :effort:, but I guess it was worth it. Today we'll attempt another in-house around ~14:00-14:30 GMT +1 or so. Watch Rinnosuke in #dots-meido.
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Well if you need a extra (bad) player, I finally play. AediousDeAero is the name.
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I've recently obtained my beta key for Dota 2, add me to the list and hit me up whenever.
ID - KFCBBQ
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I curse whatever cosmic force it is that multiplies my ping whenever I play Sand King.
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just got my betakey :D add me please!
ID - DvG_KaenbyouRin/MidnightReimu (same ID)
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Oh so new invites are being handed out huh? I'll try to update he list as soon as I am home.
I curse whatever cosmic force it is that multiplies my ping whenever I play Sand King.
Curse of the desert and stuff.
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stealing kills from bounty hunter like a baws.
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Computer crashing as one lanes as Skeleton King, dying because of that, and being pushed to the point where your ancient can be damaged is fun.
And then barely winning as they for some reason, bd'd one by one as we could get our items and push back with good teamfights/defense with our ancient at 180 health. Took an hour and 10 minutes, but it was enjoyable.
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Going to go back into Invoker for a while. 3 pages of games played with him is not enough.
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List updated so far. If I missed anyone, scream and shout.
The voice acting in this game is just so awesome for some heroes. Except for the terrible puns, the taunting is ok. Lich' voice is just ace.
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yesterday was horrible QAQ
losing 4 times in a row because either the enemies are 5-man party or got derp allies
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Mid tier best tier amirite?
Thank God I'm back into high tier after my losing streak.
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how to know about what current tier we're in?
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Watch -> Recent Games -> Player Name (Exact Match) -> Skill Level
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I'd say putting tier level in OP would assist for the case of matchmaking.
Suspicions are confirmed, DotA 2 will be free-to-play 'with a twist' (http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/4/20/2961883/dota-2-will-be-free-to-play-with-a-twist).
Which basically means that we can get a lot more players involved, and also (much to experienced players' chagrin) likely we'll have more complete newcomers too.
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Microtransactionnssssssssshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats
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That would come as absolutely no surprise thanks to TF2's and Portal 2's online stores.
I can also imagine this will come up in the developer commentary:
'Welcome to HatA 2. Please let us know what you think. I can be reached at G-A-B-E-N at valvesoftware.com. Thanks and have fun!'
...as long as CS: GO doesn't turn into CS: Headgear Offensive....:ohdear:
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Free to play with a twist -->
Purchase Doom Bringer teddy bear hat now!
Purchase Ursa Teddy bear skin now!
Purchase a Face for Faceless void now!
Ok.
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lifesteal masks and upgrades are pay for items
discuss.
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Free to play Dota2? :o :o :o :o :o :o
щ(ﾟДﾟщ)
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Not to mention no region lock
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lifesteal masks and upgrades are pay for items
discuss.
there's no way they're seriously going to do this. i can see cosmetics, but lol pay2win is so dumb.
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Not to mention no region lock
as long as the game will stay without region lock
it's fine I guess, but I hope they will not put some fucking pay to win stuff into it, or such stupid withs like unlocking some heroes with money...
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http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Cosmetic_Items
When I said microtransactions and hats earlier, I wasn't joking.
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Why yes i would like a fearless badger
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I want a TF2 bomb cart as my courier damnit :V
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As long as I can give everyone a monocle and top hat, and have this guy as a courier (http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2196/dota2stumpyflyingcourie.jpg), I'm game.
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Dirge, Mortred, Ogre Magi, Treant, Lanaya, Gyrocopter, and Luna are already in with data in the game. Any favorites?
I'm all over Dirge.
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eh dirge is all right, hes pretty much all early game
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>Mortred
Oh god, here comes the carry noobs...
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My heart burns for me to fireblast instagib all of you.
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I take your fireblast and laugh at you a Linken's Sphere.
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I one up your sphere with a bkb
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I would personally don't mind a small fee to "purchase the game". Like $5 to 10 dollars and then lifetime play. They can keep the micro transactions for fancy hats but really I wouldn't mind myself. But free to play is I guess even more awesome.
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>Mortred
Oh god, here comes the carry noobs...
iknowwatyoufeel
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I take your fireblast and laugh at you a Linken's Sphere.
I make sure I get Aga and throw ignite before I stun you.
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fucking YJ proc luck.
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Steamname: D8ms
My sources tells me that DotA2 will be free, with the condition that you have bought at least 1 game on steam.
Also, would anyone be interested in a MotK inhouse?
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Also, would anyone be interested in a MotK inhouse?
Needs date/time.
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Hm, I know that for some, it's currently exam season, for others exams are finished so it'll be a little weird, but hows about this Saturday at around noon EST?
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fucking YJ proc luck.
When I say i'll kill Dormio it means I will proc 4x on him. :VVVVVV
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Hm, I know that for some, it's currently exam season, for others exams are finished so it'll be a little weird, but hows about this Saturday at around noon EST?
`o` depends on what time that is for GMT+0800 if I can join it or not.
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`o` depends on what time that is for GMT+0800 if I can join it or not.
That would be 00:00 Sunday GMT+8, assuming no DST/Summer Time in your region.
I would consider joining but usually leave around 1 or so for other things.
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Rather than seeing if everyone is available for a deadset time, hows about posting when you can play, and we'll figure something out from there? (preferably in the same timezone)
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EDT / GMT-5 (-4 w/ DST) here. Usually open in the morning (from about 7:00 - 12:00) and evening (~20:00 - 23:30) on most days of the week.
Should other new (as in complete beginners) players arrive I'll likely join, otherwise whatever team I'm on will likely get steamrolled.
EDIT: Don't use my online status as an indicator - I am often 'Online on Mobile Device' meaning I'm connected via Steam Mobile, not the desktop client!
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West Coast United States, generally up whenever. As mentioned, Steam ID is amraphenson. all for an inhouse whenever.
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I am available in the every timezone.
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check the op for my steamID, and then add me to your friend list.
if I am online on Steam then I can definitely play, unless I say I am at work.
if I am not online on Steam then I cannot play. If I am at work, I cannot play.
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STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL WAITING ON MEEPO WISP TREANT SLARK
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STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL WAITING ON MEEPO WISP TREANT SLARK
PHOENIX AND COMMANDER PLEASE
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Commander is shit
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Newer heroes aren't really in the game yet at all, Phoenix and crap are a long way of, let alone commander/shredder/co.
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xin is actually very good =/.
commander is pretty meh with how his dps is, pretty shitty with his nerfed passive now. but otherwise id say hes a tank with meh gains out of duels
havent played that dragon guy yet
shredder is pretty lol, a tank with pure damage is always good
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RIP ARMOR AND DPS AWAY FROM CARRIES
RIP MAX HP AND DAMAGE AWAY FROM TANKS.
RIP MAX MP AND DAMAGE AWAY FROM NUKERS.
DECREASE OD'S DPS BY RIPPING AWAY MAX MP
CHASE PEOPLE
SLOW DOWN WITH CHAKRAM
KILL
EVERYTHING.
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RIP ARMOR AND DPS AWAY FROM CARRIES
RIP MAX HP AND DAMAGE AWAY FROM TANKS.
RIP MAX MP AND DAMAGE AWAY FROM NUKERS.
DECREASE OD'S DPS BY RIPPING AWAY MAX MP
CHASE PEOPLE
SLOW DOWN WITH CHAKRAM
KILL
EVERYTHING.
DEFORESTATION AT IT'S BEST
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http://stats.dota2.be/
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(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Untitled-27.png)
I think I won.
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So, new interface, DOTA 2 THE CARDGAME, etc.
Any thoughts?
Also, gonna start collecting people and a hero of their choice for something fun.
Amra (Dark Seer)
PX (Shadowfiend)
Rikter (Obsidian Destroyer)
DollS (Phoenix)
Dormio (Clockwerk)
Dular (Pudge) (dwi)
Trance (Mortred)
Nemo/Yog (Lina)
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Seems interesting, though I'm up for changes so almost anything can be fine with me. Course they might change it, but it's a beta, so they might or improve it.
I'd take Lina.
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HATS HAVE ARRIVED.
Got a Juggernaut Boar Mask already.
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And then DotA becomes Trading of the Ancients instead :getdown:
inb4 Demopan or equivalent becomes part of the community gags
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Unusuals confirmed. (http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/ufa70/first_game_loot_after_patch/c4uwgjp) (though, apparently, the particle effects aren't implemented yet.)
Also, steam ID is lumber_of_the_beast
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Unusuals confirmed. (http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/ufa70/first_game_loot_after_patch/c4uwgjp) (though, apparently, the particle effects aren't implemented yet.)
It's only a matter of time before a US$2000 trade over an Unusual occurs now. (reference to a Burning effect Team Captain trade in TF2 that cost that much)
While I got basic rules and some few easy difficulty bot matches down, chances are if I start playing, I'll be treated as lower than TF2 F2P status for at least a year by the community, going by traditional DotA elitism, the TF2 community's love of poking fun at F2P pubbies (usually over how they play poorly and which hats many of them wear), and the likelihood I'd probably only stand a chance against other such players. Considering this and other current ventures, it looks like I'll be ditching DotA 2 for everything except using its assets in Gmod, and focus on improving play in STGs.....
What I can suggest, though, is for community to have regular in-house training sessions, with 3 regular/experienced and 2 newcomer players per team. We've done that regularly on the unofficial community TF2 server (usually via specialized practice or scheduled meet-ups), with great results from both the newest F2Ps and near-competitive grade players.
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It's only a matter of time before a US$2000 trade over an Unusual occurs now. (reference to a Burning effect Team Captain trade in TF2 that cost that much)
Wasn't quite that high, but I don't doubt that unusuals, especially early on, are gonna be worth hundreds.
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Opened a box, got a Strange Rune Ailettes for Prophet. :V
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If it doesn't track kills and give a silly little toot after getting so many, I'll be disapponted.
Where are the Strange Parts :V
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Played my first PvP game earlier today.
Picked Windrunner. We lost. I still feel kinda proud, though; I went 9/10/18, but all of my deaths were after we had already started losing. Could've done better, yeah, but...
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(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Untitled-33.png)
I think I won DotA... Again.
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such a big screen :(
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(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Untitled-33.png)
I think I won DotA... Again.
I am only four weeks away from Dota2 and then suddenly this.
Teaspit.png
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Alright, since this thread doesn't get much use, let's use it to archive what kinda stuff we have so far.
Strange Runed Ailettes (Nature Prophet Shoulders, count towers destroyed)
Strange *something staff* (Nature Prophet Weapon, counts kills)
Kunkka's Admiral set, common
Kunkka's bandana
Kunkka's hook hand
Kunkka's leviathan tooth necklace
Kunkka's back harpoon
Invoker's Exort set
Witch Doctor's buy-something-get-for-free-set
Juggernaut's Boar Mask
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nothing at all :(
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hate the item bug lol
first time got no idea how to fix it and forced to play furion with that shit
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I haven't gotten any drops yet, but whatever.
I am sad though because I am suffering through my first losing streak ever in DotA 2! :derp:
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hate the item bug lol
first time got no idea how to fix it and forced to play furion with that shit
In case anyone gets it again, restarting dota 2 seems to be the only way I know of.
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New dota2beta patch came out, adding Mortred, CK, and Gyro :D
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All of which i hate because none of them are meepo slark or wisp
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Love Chaos Knight, but I want Luna to be in the game soon.
Also, wow that Mortred ult effect, blood spurting everywhere.
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haven't played dota 2 today, but i heard someone mentioned that PA actually got "nerfed" on dota 2 that blink shows visual effect (dota 1 ones doesn't) and blur only shows "literal blur" instead transparent effect (so she become way more noticeable)
shoulda see by myself tho to confirm this
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Despite the 40 dollar bundle being the only way to get an invite, From what I see, it seems that the exchange rate for invites is 1 invite for 2 chest keys. I've been wanting to trade my spare invites for keys, but no one offered me yet. This confuses me!
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Invites are also still being emailed out. Basically, most of the people who want to play dota 2 can by now, so there's not a lot of demand.
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Needs confetti and ballons to pop out on PA ult.
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You all suck you need YJ Luck.
Ogre Magi ftw. CHAOS KNIGHT WILL WORK TOO.
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So, why is it that whenever I try a custom bot game, my ally bots are always chronically retarded, while the enemy bots can at least stick together?
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because allied bots need 40000 pings to make them do anything like grouping
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huh i never play the ai before, i wonder if they are any better from the wc3 version
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apparently if youre playing in a incredibly laggy game there will be packet losses which causes many bugs :ohdear:
ex. one game enemy creeps turning allied so you cant attack them
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Play Gyrocopter ult the enemy team in a fight as a Kunkka boat comes in and he instantly gets a ultra kill,
I love those moments.
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"LAUNCH MORE ROCKETS"
"WE'RE OUT OF ROCKETS"
"...LAUNCH THE BOAT."
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(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6743/boatdokeng.png)
On a side note, my team had a leaver right away. Entire team left except for me while I watched the other team get 80 kills for giggles. When they eventually did get around to killing the dire shrine thingy, I was the only one to get an item(due to leveling up). The rage they had was hilarious.
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Go into the loadout
Click on anyone with items and see their model
use your mousewheel and scroll in one direction
Watch as the model flips out.
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3/6/31 Puck loss :colonveeplusalpha:
You really can not do very much against Doom Bringer as Puck, and the enemy team had a really farmed Phantom Assassin. Ah well. :C
There was, however, this (http://stats.dota2.be/match/22203837) which made me lol hard...
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Rubick is nothing but poetic justice. Nothing.
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Untrue.
He is also twitchtwitchtwitch.
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don't make fun of Parkinsons man, it's not funny.
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So doing that 80 CS in 20 minutes thing so far second try in single player was 109 in 20 with Invoker 3rd time I got the exact same but with slightly higher denies.
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Well I got 80 last hits, 11 denies, and two tower last hits in 12 minutes as AM on the short lane.
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So yeah I need Invoker's Crest of Burning Cabal and Bracers of Burning Cabal
I have Furion's Modestly Braided Beard, Doubly braided Beard, Omni's Sigil of the Radiant Crusader, Drow's Frost Spikes and Sven's Sword of the Monomilitis
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Traded Rikter's Modestly Braided Beard for the Crest. Kinda uneven, I'll see if I pick up any of the other voker stuff later.
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http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/918982156811171294/4E30F973D3FA3BE4E3F8AB70DBB0B3D7EDBB7FE3/
Match ID: 23911325
We decide to do level 1 rosh and stuff other notable highlights
25 Minutes - Enemy team tries to save a DD rune for PA lose 4 people in the process
28-ish minutes - Trying to last hit Wisp makes me deny Dormio during a teamfight while spiking
31 Minutes - Trance really wants wisp to die and dies like a man
around 46 minutes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftfjes1UAhg
48 Minutes - Teamfight starts where I get an ultra kill.
Was also some very unfortunate use of relocate by wisp that dropped him right on top of Dormio likely prompting the response at the end
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Was also some very unfortunate use of relocate by wisp that dropped him right on top of Dormio likely prompting the response at the end
One time, Wisp relocated in an attempt to gank someone. I was in the jungle right next to them, so I leapt out with my blink dagger and killed wisp.
Another time, Wisp relocated somewhere to gank, but failed and got away safely... Or so he thought. Unfortunately for him, I found his relocate exit while randomly walking through our jungle so he had a bear waiting for him once he got away from the rest of our team. (46:30)
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Nightstalker is silly when you know what you're doing and the enemy team doesn't. 18/2/somethinglolhueg is not a score you should ever get.
ANYWAYS since we sort of have a few new players, and players who still aren't very good, how about some general advice?
I guess terms would be a good way to start.
autoattacking: right clicking an enemy and not controlling the flow of your attacks, resulting in a constant dps. Generally a bad idea, as it's less efficient than animation cancelling and results in lanes getting pushed early on.
animation canceling: using stop or move to 'cancel' out of the backswing on attacks or spells. Say you have Rubick, who has a 0.4s start up to attacks and a 0.77s delay afterwards. Animation cancelling is immediately moving after the 0.4s and the attack itself so as to save that 0.77s, which in Rubick's case can lead to almost two more attacks within that span of time if done absolutely perfectly.
easy lane/hard lane: more detailed descriptions of the lanes, generally known as top/mid/bot. The easy lane is the one that's next to your side's jungle, the hard lane is the shorter one. Generally you want to keep valuable heroes on the easy lane, like your carry, so that they don't get ganked; it's much easier to stay safe on your easy lane in comparison the hard lane because you can get attacked from the enemy jungle on the hard lane. Your easy lane is generally where your other solo is in case you have a jungler, as well.
pull/stack: abusing the creep camps, you draw aggro at around xx:53 from a neutral camp and run away; at this timing, the camp will have no nearby units at xx:00, where neutrals respawn, thus creating a 'stacked' camp. this can be done repeatedly for lolhueg chunks of gold and exp, which is useful for people with aoe and splash. pulling is attacking a neutral camp and dragging it near your lane creeps, thus causing them to fight; this delays your lane and 'pulls' the creeps back to your tower. Done on easy lane and occasionally Radiant's hard lane (thus bot for Radiant and top for both)
last hitting: refraining from attacking a target unless you are sure it will be the 'last', and thus give you the gold. one of the first important skills to learn for dota, as good last hitting gives you a TON more gold. also applies to heroes, which is kinda important for carries who need that chunk of gold.
harassing: using spells or attacks to lower the hp of enemy heroes or apply debuffs without much risk to yourself, making subsequent fights easier for you. A good example would be Shadow Demon's Shadow Poison. This however draws aggro from nearby creeps, which in fact can be used to your advantage because it brings creeps marginally closer to your tower.
laning: blanket term that refers to the early game phase, where the lane creeps dictate most actions because of hero weakness. this includes last hitting, auto attacking, pull/stack, and harassment. improving at all these makes your laning better.
remember! try to keep in a lane if you're not doing anything, and if you leave lane to do something try to succeed. time not spent laning or doing something successfully is time wasted.
remember! always try to pickoff someone solo, to make any following fights easier on you, and if you just teamwiped the enemy push or rosh! Unless you're all close to death
remember! wards save lives.
more stuff later I guess.
heros that you should try out if you're just starting:
skeleton king: gets you used to the very basics, because those are really the only things Skeleton King has beyond his stun.
antimage: easy effort, easy wins. also very basic, gets you used to using blinks.
cm/lich: eeezeee modo supports.
ursa: eeezzeee modo jungle
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Your amount of success with Anti-Mage, I should note, is very much directly proportional to the amount of skill your teammates have. :V
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ursa: eeezzeee modo jungle
I personally think that Lycan and Lifestealer are much easier to jungle with.
Ursa actually has a very poor jungle in comparison to the other junglers.
remember! try to keep in a lane if you're not doing anything, and if you leave lane to do something try to succeed. time not spent laning or doing something successfully is time wasted.
remember! always try to pickoff someone solo, to make any following fights easier on you, and if you just teamwiped the enemy push or rosh! Unless you're all close to death
remember! wards save lives.
more stuff later I guess.
This shit is useless for beginners.
Learn mechanics. Mechanics, mechanics, mechanics.
Learn to last hit.
Learn to watch the minimap.
Learn what type of items synergize well with your hero.
Learn how to communicate effectively.
Learn the value of having vision.
These are far more important than any little tips or plays that you might be trying to pull off.
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You guys are doing it wrong.
Link all beginners to THIS (http://www.playdota.com/guides/welcome-to-dota-you-suck/)
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^ Quality guide.
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Oh I remember Hime posting that guide on IRC when I started out with DotA.
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I personally think that Lycan and Lifestealer are much easier to jungle with.
BUT DORMIO HOW CAN I MICRO MY WOLVES EFFECTIVELY IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT!
On a more related note for easy heros I don't think recommending Seleton king or Ursa is a good idea due to the farm dependance they have and some other issues with them in general.
Sven, Tidehunter, Lich and Bane are all decent heros to start at with lich being the easiest of the 4.
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Man, I don't know, Lycan's jungle is weird as fuck for me. And SK/Ursa have problems versus disables definitely, but that teaches you the importance of a BKB. and I mentioned most of that stuff above, Dormio. :V
:successful thread resuscitation is successful:
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Man, I don't know, Lycan's jungle is weird as fuck for me.
More like easy as fuck.
And SK/Ursa have problems versus disables definitely, but that teaches you the importance of a BKB.
I wouldn't recommend Ursa because his jungle is actually very terrible.
I mean, he has no sustain and no fast way to clear early.
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I'll defer to you on that then. Not like I play either.
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ursa jungle isnt that bad, get a stout shield and gg branches and roll threw it
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So, like, I asked this question a while ago and I feel the need to reiterate: Why is this thread in this section?
Shouldn't it be moved to AA, rather than being in GBA? It's got nothing to do with Touhou, nor is it hosted on any MotK servers. ???
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Man, I don't know, Lycan's jungle is weird as fuck for me.
he used to be able to lane properly (lycan before his ulti got changed) and harass too. After some changes and people discovered jungle lycan, IF nerfed his laning phase (especially massive base armor nerf i think)
I wouldn't recommend Ursa because his jungle is actually very terrible.
I mean, he has no sustain and no fast way to clear early.
as long as someone bought fly courier (thats means you aren't the one who bought it) and you start with stout its doable. I prefer jungle at lv 2 btw
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I just really dislike Ursa's jungle start and will call him a terrible jungler because of it, even if I usually play Ursa jungle. :V
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So, like, I asked this question a while ago and I feel the need to reiterate: Why is this thread in this section?
Shouldn't it be moved to AA, rather than being in GBA? It's got nothing to do with Touhou, nor is it hosted on any MotK servers. ???
In-house playgroup. Blame Hele.
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I still think it should be moved, I'mma poke Hele when I'm home or something.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK-ykzpnt9g&
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In-house playgroup. Blame Hele.
I'll gungnir you.
Thread moved.
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:toot:
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i heard dota2 is a thing (steam username is below)
And remember, there is only one guide you need to read in order to know how to play: CAPS LOCK LEORIC (http://www.playdota.com/guides/epic-return/)
It doesn't matter if you never plan on playing Skeleton King, this guide will give you the fundamentals necessary to play DotA competently like a baller.
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Holy shit that list of players in the OP needs updating.
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yeah no joke. Some of us don't have things remotely similar to our motk names as Steam account names. :|
Put down my steam name as nathelis.
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Holy shit that list of players in the OP needs updating.
でしょう？ I will run through it once I wake up because it is 4:11 atm. Too early to do these kind of stuff.
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I'll make you a list of the people I have either during my break or when I get home.
Well here's most of the people on my friends list except for the ones I probably missed.
Steam ID/MotK Profile
도미오/Dormio
Takahashi Minami/Amae Koromo(PX)
Helepolis/Helepolis
magnaduelist/Magna
Dular/Dular
Loolicon/Messiah
Amra/Amra
Rikter/Rikter
TransientStar/DollS
-K-/K
Midnight.소녀.Reimu/AkurouNyan
Dr Rawr/nurse rawr
pandas/Panda
FFMaster/FFMaster
Hero999/Hero999
rizock/:o)
↑↑↓↓←→←→ⒷⒶ/headcrabs
KFCBBQ/KFCBBQ
Prody/Colt
Pesco/Inaba Tewi
Greshdaf/Tapsa
elcye/elcye
Takei Hisa/Dorakyura
lilycious/TranceHime
Yaersulf/Yaersulf
EP Shortselling Programme/Whatever the fuck EP is naming himself as "loli whatever"
Renko Usami/Deviox
Bill.TK/Z_god
Yukarin/Yukarin
TheGaPKerigis/Kerigis
SiG/Apharmdb
Averruncus/Averruncus
Infinity/Infinity
Yadogari/Yadogari
Flandre Scarlet/Princess Flandre(Ace-Royale)
Thanuris/Thanuris
Aedious De Aero/Galfrey
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have you guys ever tried all-mid all invoker?
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I'll make you a list of the people I have either during my break or when I get home.
Well here's most of the people on my friends list except for the ones I probably missed.
Those are all nicknames right? I prefer to have the steamID because the constant nickchanging is just making it orz.
@ ActionDan, I don't think currently DotA2 allows custom games modes like that (or am I wrong?)
Edit: I still need steamID for the list of people.
Edit2: Btw, DotA2 fails of the week episode 11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouzLrSBqEhM
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Those are all nicknames right? I prefer to have the steamID because the constant nickchanging is just making it orz.
Yeah, it's their current nicks.
Hell if I know their steam IDs. :V
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My actual steam id is trancell. You can also look at my Steam Profile which is linked somewhere in this post, find the Steam icon. :V
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aw, pity they don't do custom games with those kinds of options.
Furion, Lycan, Enchantress, Chen, Syllabear
vs.
Phantom lancer, Chaos Knight, Slitherice, Terrorblade, morphling
Predictions on who wins this matchup? I'd bet on Team mass minions.
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My ID is on my sign.
I need to learn how to play with something besides Axe or Chaos Knight, though :V
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Predictions on who wins this matchup? I'd bet on Team mass minions.
Both teams suck, but the latter team can't do jack shit about the former's pushing power.
I mean, they're just going to get steamrolled in the early/mid and probably won't be able to come back from that.
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Oh good, name list updates + beginner's links (not sure when they were put however, haven't checked lately). These, a Cave Johnson voice pack, and maybe a few more things could be helpful.
Whatever the fuck EP is naming himself as "loli whatever"
:getdown:
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gTqnQdmDJU&t=3m20s) would be the reference, often joked amongst some of us as 'Lolibachi'.
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Furion, Lycan, Enchantress, Chen, Syllabear
vs.
Phantom lancer, Chaos Knight, Slitherice, Terrorblade, morphling
Predictions on who wins this matchup? I'd bet on Team mass minions.
Easily the first team. Chen in own jungle, Enchant in enemy jungle, Furion solo mid, Sillybear long lane and Lycan safe lane. Bambi will gank with Syllabear like hell and ruin then enemy safe lane while Syllabear farms, Lycan is relatively safe with a Chen in their own jungle, and Furion does what Furion does. Once they all hit level 7, GG because you got insane pushing power combined with HOWL. Other team can't do anything about it until 50 minutes in, and all but one of them needs farm.
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all five of the first team are common bans except syllabear, and even then he sees some ban action
the later five don't get banned much; ck and siren the most. :\
furion/chen/enchantress on the same team is already silliness.
edit: changed steam nick to Amraphenson, so just look that up.
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I'm Scratch that, my profile page is down there since I'll be changing names a lot.
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Now I know why Naga Siren is holy-snap-superman-fast-batman often banned in most of the tournament games. Yesterday some enemy team forged a deadly combo which smashed our team pretty bad. Naga Siren + Sand King + Leshrak == ouch. Even if you have pipe or shit, you're not much going to do against her ult because you always get caught one way or another unless the enemy is a total moron.
I was OD that game, couldn't really figure out how to build him. I had Drum, Orchid, Forcestaff, Threads and was farming MKB :V
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Get a sheepstick if you're rolling in that much money rather than an MKB.
Also, don't build the drum unless you really, really have to. :V
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nature's prophet is a silly hero why did I pick him. steal a triple kill from sk during epicenter with wrath.
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Get a sheepstick if you're rolling in that much money rather than an MKB.
Also, don't build the drum unless you really, really have to. :V
But then you have like 1000 HP being extremely squishy at late game :[ or is OD really just that squishy.
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BKB whar?
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If OD isn't killing people in 2-3 rightclicks or an ult, he's a very sad/impoverished OD.
After all, if nobody on the enemy team is alive, how can they possibly squish you? (zeus buyback ult refresher ult, oops)
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Hele you're supposed to build BKB/Sheepstick, the Sheepstick alone provides a ton of damage and gives you HP, much better than MKB
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not really a fan of BKB on OD. certainly I'd only get it after say sheep stick / shivas / agahams
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What.
Okay. So. Why the fuck would you buy Shiva's and Aghanims on OD?
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Wait, you guys were against a Siren, Lesh, AND Sand King? Why for the love did you guys not rush BKB against that crap? Just wait for Siren to pop her ult, then BKB right after it ends. Suddenly, you opponent has wasted their ults and you're sitting in SK ult taking nothing.
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What.
Okay. So. Why the fuck would you buy Shiva's and Aghanims on OD?
simply because they're top-tier int items that increase his orb damage and his ult damage. I don't think OD's weakness is spells, it's more getting out-damaged by other carries. Armor and health helps with that. I understand the theory behind BKB, since now OD doesn't have to worry about things like stuns, but I find it too much of a tax on his gold allowance.
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I get aghanims on od :(
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Is item or level more important on a Lycan? I get heaps of money in jungle but the exp doesn't feel like enough.
Abyss bracket trying to get used to a carry in case my team demands one.
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Lycan needs levels more than gold. That's why he goes in the jungle, as that's the most secure and quickest way to amass them. He only requires a Vlads and BKB before he starts balling out of control.
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Shiva's and aghs on OD makes me confused.
His ult is really...well...not useful unless you've already reached the point where you can 2shot people with orb, and then Ult is just extra. I just pop it at the beginning of a fight and clean up; either mana is gone or they're half dead. Putting money into an Aghs doesn't seem like a good idea when you could get something that actually has other uses like an Orchid or an Atos.
Shiva's I kinda understand, but I'd still prefer getting ALL THE STAVES. Eul's is immensely useful on OD, you have no idea.
Force/Eul's->Atos->Sheep/BKB, if I were to play him.
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why would we need euls? we have astral imprisonment, it does the exact same thing except you can steal enemy int, the mana regen is also a waste, and you already have a force staff for moving.
Also aghanims, the + range on his ult lets him initiate if your team doesnt already have one or something and more damage overall
also about sand king, it takes 3 seconds for him to deal full damage with his ult, guess how long astral imprisonment lasts?
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simply because they're top-tier int items that increase his orb damage and his ult damage. I don't think OD's weakness is spells, it's more getting out-damaged by other carries. Armor and health helps with that. I understand the theory behind BKB, since now OD doesn't have to worry about things like stuns, but I find it too much of a tax on his gold allowance.
>BKB
>Too expensive.
Do you not understand how good it is, and how much it increases your survivability by?
Why the fuck would you prioritize Shiva's/Aghs over BKB?
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for something that improves his ult, aghs doesn't really do much to improve it beyond making the multiplier better. 4.2k spent not getting any int to improve said ult.
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Well you do actually get 10 INT. Of course, I would get Aghs much later on OD (if at all), but whatever.
Also, I'm with Rawr on not buying Euls for OD unless the situation really calls for it for whatever weird reason.
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1. aghanims also gives mana for orb
2. yes better caster range and higher multiplier
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just one scepter? (http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/7/76/Odest_scepter_05.mp3)
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http://stats.dota2.be/match/31076211
Balled to hard too fast
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More like fed too fast and the furious. Looking at your ally items, you guys had a feed-fest going on.
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Saw a video with a tinker(<3) with this build:
Shiva's
Guinsoo's
Forcestaff
Blink dagger
BOT
and Etheral Blade
I'd love to try something like this replacing the Etheral Blade with either manta, likens, or even dagon.
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That looks pretty standard though.
Also, good luck keeping up your already limited MP with a Dagon thrown into the mix.
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ya, maybe it's safer with the good ole' likens (if that exists in dota2)
manta style is fun, there is nothing more satisfying than needlessly cloning over and over and over again
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(if that exists in dota2)
Of course it does. For what reason would it not?
manta style is fun, there is nothing more satisfying than needlessly cloning over and over and over again
If it still works like WC3 DotA, using manta again will destroy your previous illusions.
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true true.
does PX really go by "Alipheese Fateburn XVI"
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He did at one point.
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You're doing it wrong. Use my master Tinker build
Bloodstone
Bloodstone
Bloodstone
BoT
Bloodstone
Bloodstone
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I'm just gonna say...Chaos Knight..."da most badass kerry karachter evah!"
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http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/900972024233385315/CA51935BB19D5FD15413C7AC85F09701E8270835/
THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN THIS NEWEST BATCH OF ITEMS
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gdi no rubick items ever
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Just steal everyone else's items.
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Pudge shaved. Discuss.
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His weapons are fucking shiny.
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Pesco/Faf/Dorakyura/Dular
Not quite sure we deserved that win. :V
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I liked the part where we stole the divine rapier.
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Divine Rapier. The turnpike of all items.
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Pudge is bald now. :V
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pudge looks better. I never did get the green hair.
they shouldn't have made lina's legs so far apart. It looks unnatural.
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> Lina's legs
> far apart
Implying something? :V
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> Lina's legs
> far apart
Implying something? :V
Hellfire hell bitch!
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> Lina's legs
> far apart
Implying something? :V
Either she has a very wide pelvis, or perhaps she's quite content to invite the boys in ... hmm
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Counterpoint to Crystal Maiden, obviously.
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Pudge is bald now. :V
So is Invoker. :V
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Pudge is bald now. :V
No he's unbald now
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So is Invoker. :V
Prophet becomes wc3 villager, jugg becomes headless
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I liked it when Void stepped it up a notch and went from faceless to headless.
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I'm amused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deSExo8lnGE&feature=related
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So Mythical Brewmaster Flail from International Chest.
Why do I seem to get good stuff from limited edition chests I open?
EDIT: Opened a International Chest from Pesco and got a robe for Lone Druid and from the chest I got from Dormio the Spine Sword for Skeleton King.
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The International. Or rather, the Chinese pubstomp. I think any team that has more than 2000 pennants during a match has performed horribly so far.
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Na'Vi y u no stomp
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CHINA STRONG! Thank god I have BurNing on my fantasy DotA team :V
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I watched one game, forgot who between last night.
It was a complete curbstomp. I forgot the teams.
While I was expecting some teams/organisations from the LoL scene to be there, I really did not expect to hear Na'Vi, or M5.
M5 getting so stomped according to the scoreboards, despite them being the stompers in LoL. Not the same dudes, ofc.
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The games are too different for a team that plays both to do equally well in them.
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The DotA competitive scene existed LONG before LoL. Some teams just decided to sponsor LoL teams to make some money.
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What/where's this fantasy league thing? Luminous mentioned it during the game and now I'm curious.
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http://fantasy.dota-academy.com/Login
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Oh I forgot. Add me up on steam. Err, I got a separate steam ID for D2, though I have 2 steam acc, just this one for D2. lol
My steam ID is blitzkriegq.
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For those who do not know, the BIGGEST DotA tournament is going on right now, sponsored by Valve themselves. Teams playing for a grand prize of $1,000,000, The International 2.
http://www.joindota.com/en/start
Link for everything involving DotA2 right above, and they have links to all the livestreams. You will not find better DotA games than this, so watch and learn from pros.
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For those who do not know, the BIGGEST DotA tournament is going on right now, sponsored by Valve themselves. Teams playing for a grand prize of $1,000,000, The International 2.
http://www.joindota.com/en/start
Link for everything involving DotA2 right above, and they have links to all the livestreams. You will not find better DotA games than this, so watch and learn from pros.
I just watch from the client itself usually.
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so watch and learn from pros.
You know what is always funny about these lines. Pretty much people try to imitate the styles and fail miserably. :V
I am not sure whether I read this correctly somewhere but I think the spectator client will be converted to the live client after the Internationals.
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Because people just want to make big plays instead of learning the basics.
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So I just saw a visage level up Gravekeepers Cloak at level 2 instead of soul assumption in a lane where the only enemy hero was pudge...
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how to make beeeg plays
remove earbuds yell at teammates (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldq1afiKQb8)
bigger version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDaJes0T1Ig)
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2012, September 2
The day Na`Vi broke our hearts
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WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID THEY PICK NYX ASSASSIN
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LMAO KOTL COUNTER
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LMAO KOTL COUNTER
And even that failed horribly.
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Puppey clearly threw the game after watching this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_bokhz_7Yo)
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Rage at NaVi not making a game 5 for me to watch on campus.
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In-house dota2 was silly as hell.
Refresher Orb Sven, dangerous as hell.
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Never let me pick Leshrac again seriously
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I want to improve my Nyx after seeing Purge and Puppey fail at them. I'm pretty good at Nyx, he's a pretty solid dude, I can get behind him and improve my game as him.
But when I disconnect every game now, and it only happens when I'm playing dota 2, for on average 5 minutes per game(which is a lot of farm) and suddenly lag spots, it's just.. How am I going to improve, if I'm never there and keep appearing gimped?
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I'm growing increasingly annoyed at the people who keep hating on Chinese DotA playstyle for being too farm-oriented/too safe.
On the flipside, I'm growing increasingly annoyed at the people who used iG's victory as an excuse to slam all the Na`Vi fanboys. Just leave it alone, sweet lord...
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"Look at you noobs playing together on AP"
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Seriously this made me laugh out loud while I was speccing your game.
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It wasn't even a full premade, nor were we playing a particularly coordinated game.
He was just mad about the lane. :V
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quite long time since i didn't touch my dota 2 and even dota wc3
WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID THEY PICK NYX ASSASSIN
LMAO KOTL COUNTER
oh god what
"Look at you noobs playing together on AP"
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Seriously this made me laugh out loud while I was speccing your game.
garena attitude
o boi
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oh god what
Confirmed, Puppey picked Nyx Assassin to Spiked Carapace the Illuminate but later admitted to sucking ass that match, same with the rest of the team underperforming during the final.
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Im piss, no meepo in the test update
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So, I just got my invite.
Played 2 games. Lost both [1 due to a DC and the other was because mid fed hard]
Little clue what I'm actually doing, but I didn't do horribly in either game. For example; I had enough gold to get an item from the Secret Shop that was an upgrade to an item I had, and I had the materials, but I didnt know where the shop was and my team wouldn't tell me :V
Played Illusion Lancer Game 1 [Forgot the exact name of the class] and Dragon Knight game 2.
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So, I just got my invite.
Played 2 games. Lost both [1 due to a DC and the other was because mid fed hard]
Little clue what I'm actually doing, but I didn't do horribly in either game. For example; I had enough gold to get an item from the Secret Shop that was an upgrade to an item I had, and I had the materials, but I didnt know where the shop was and my team wouldn't tell me :V
Played Illusion Lancer Game 1 [Forgot the exact name of the class] and Dragon Knight game 2.
Oh cool, so there was another round of invites. Welcome! And yea, pretty much how we all start out. Feed, fail, rage until getting some grasp of the game :V. Probably the hero you mentioned is "Phantom Lancer" but Illusion Lancer wouldn't be terribly wrong because so many clones/illusions the dude has.
Also next time, if you try to buy an item that requires a fuse item from secret shop, it will automatically ping on the map the two locations (though it is wise to quickly memorize them in single player mode).
Also different topic:
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Well. . . Tidehunter sure put on some weight?
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So, I just got my invite.
Played 2 games. Lost both [1 due to a DC and the other was because mid fed hard]
Little clue what I'm actually doing, but I didn't do horribly in either game. For example; I had enough gold to get an item from the Secret Shop that was an upgrade to an item I had, and I had the materials, but I didnt know where the shop was and my team wouldn't tell me :V
Played Illusion Lancer Game 1 [Forgot the exact name of the class] and Dragon Knight game 2.
Welcome to DotA :V
Don't tell them you play LoL
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I'd like to be added to the list of people that play.
ActionDan ActionDan
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Might be worth mentioning my IGN is the same as here.
Raikaria = Raikaria
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Publics.
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Eventually we won this game after my teammates got over their butthurt early game fail (accusing each other of feeders). Riki (27-5-11) farmed faster than AM (0-9-1). I like Rikis who make good use of my Blood lust.
Too bad I cannot see ally chat in replays, I had a game where Panda Brewmaster (ally) told me (Viper) "Viper, stop canceling your ult animation you noob." It is pretty much gold like the one where Rikter's ally told him to farm Orchid staff to silence Mortred's ult.
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So you went solomid and fed anyway didn't you.
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So you went solomid and fed anyway didn't you.
No I went top with Gondar vs AM and Pugna. I requested Veno to swap because fuck Ogre is useless in that lane. Me baby sitting Rikimaru vs Slardar / Undying was much better. Except Leshrak kept on ganking us pretty well but Rikimaru still got some kills and yea, from there on steamrollmaru.
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You won because the enemy Magina was shitty as hell. He's no BurNing, but how the fuck do you go 0/9/1?
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You won because the enemy Magina was shitty as hell. He's no BurNing, but how the fuck do you go 0/9/1?
It is called Venomancer + Gondar + Pudge. Top lane was being controlled much better when Veno and I swapped. It made Leshrak stop focussing bottom and go top which meant Undying or Slardar die each time I did a fire blast. Publics.
And yes, the AM was pretty bad. Leshrak, Pugna and Undying were random but the others were picked :V
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Well. I guess this may be the place to ask clarification on this.
So I got a random unwarranted add on steam by someone asking if I wanted dota. I didn't really so I asked what it would cost. He said it would be free to me, the only thing I had to do was redeem the code on steam and steam trade the 2 copies of dota it gave back to him. I saw no way this could really hurt me other than if he cried wolf to steam, but he had 8 years on steam and 600 hours in dota and i had the chatlog so I thought why not. I redeemed the code, gave him back the 2 copies, and now i have dota and he has 2 more copies.
Still confused as to whether I had been sharked or scammed or whatever, I asked rizock and he said my copy was a one obtained through the original application process.
So uh yeah. I have dota now and I still don't know why the person did what they did but it came with no loss to me so :toot:
Any thoughts why someone would do this?
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You get two gift copies for each original dota key redeemed iirc, so I'm guessing he just needed a middleman to redeem the key for him (and send back the gift copies obv) as he probably already had one on his own account.
It's like when I invited one of my alternate emails to gmail back when they were still using an invite system so I could get more invites.
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In the steam trading community, there's people who are willing to trade treasure keys or steam games for Dota 2 invite items. Sending out invites to people so they can produce more invites to return sounds like a good idea but it sounds too time consuming for me; also I need to find out when and how does Steam decide to hand out the 2 extra invites.
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also I need to find out when and how does Steam decide to hand out the 2 extra invites.
Pretty sure they don't anymore.
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Koreans aren't real people. Hereby confirmed by Leoric and Mogul Khan.
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still waiting on meepo, hope valve will not disappoint
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still waiting on meepo, hope valve will not disappoint
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/September_19,_2012_Patch_%28Test%29
Meepo the Geomancer released in the test client. First impressions: Good SFX, model, animations and voice.
Infinity and I were discussing his Geomastrike ability. Apparently in DotA it was a buffplacer and therefore not stackable with orbs. However, I tested out desolator in game and it showed both the geostrike effect and armour corruption. http://i50.tinypic.com/53ol1h.jpg
Either it is unintended (and will be fixed in the final version) or it is the way it was suppose to be but wc3 engine etc(ry. Also Amra said there is a bug when buying more than one Aghanim scepter causing more Meepos. My test was negative on this bug. So I guess it happens sometimes?
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i keep telling you guys
DRAGON KNIGHT SUPPORT
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Jungle Invoker
Your move.
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I'll be applauding you guys when you do jungle Zeus or something.
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Jungle Zeus? Time to try that next inhouse :V
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http://www.playdota.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6993684&postcount=1HAHAHAHAHAHA LYCAN
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I'm just wondering what Lycan can even do now in the early game.
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I'm just wondering what Lycan can even do now in the early game.
Learn his wolves a trick or two until the game is over.
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He can still jungle guys.. It's just not so much a cake-walk as it was then.
Like, you actually have to pay attention now to your wolves instead of firing them in the general direction of creeps.
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Just send one person into the jungle. Or put a ward in there. And Lycan can't do anything. You coming into the jungle to stop him hurts a lot more than before.
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Not to mention dat stealth 150 gold Observer Wards.
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He can still jungle guys.. It's just not so much a cake-walk as it was then.
Like, you actually have to pay attention now to your wolves instead of firing them in the general direction of creeps.
You still had to pay attention to that early though losing one wolf to early could make you lose out on a crucial camp spawn.
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He can still jungle guys.. It's just not so much a cake-walk as it was then.
Like, you actually have to pay attention now to your wolves instead of firing them in the general direction of creeps.
>Summon Wolves manacost 125 -> 145
>Lv1 Summon Wolves halved HP total (400->200)
>Increased warding incentives
I think you're understating it when you say "not so much of a cake-walk." Much more management is needed when attempting a Lv1 jungle which is what used to be done fairly regularly come this update, which I think will decrease significantly. I'm pretty sure people will still try it but they'll find themselves getting fucked over if they throw their wolves away. It's a lot harder.
I think Lycan's jungle just got plain neutered with these changes. Not that I'm complaining.
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So how soon until these changes are effected in Dota2?
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- Legs decreased from 2/2/2/2 to 1/1.5/1.8/1.9
anti mages legs are shorter now
some other changes i liked
- Vacuum can no longer pull invulnerable units
- Sadist reworked
- Charge of Darkness no longer gives a buff indicator
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So I made a MotK team. Anyone that wants in, make sure you're on my friends list.
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Manager/CEO position pl0x
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Sure thing, since you're in the timezone I'm not. You need to be in the team first, though!
EDIT: Also, limits to numbers in team. Time to sort through this thing properly!
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You guys will need a mascot, right? I could be one.
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Everyone knows I'm the mid hero. I better be in there.
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You guys will need a mascot, right? I could be one.
SO CAN I MAYBE
...
:V
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Everyone knows I'm the mid hero. I better be in there.
Inb4 pudge banned
Also, dibs on drafter/captaining
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We can have 2 teams. One competitive and one casual. The team reg system has limits on team member numbers though. Otherwise we could do a full management staff for the team.
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would like support for either!
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Can I be in multiple teams at the same time?
My friend just shot me an invitation yesterday :(
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Can't be in multiple teams. I'd be CEO of our casual and comp teams then. Since I'm only in Dormio's, I'm manager.
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We can have 2 teams. One competitive and one casual. The team reg system has limits on team member numbers though. Otherwise we could do a full management staff for the team.
I like the sound of this. Time to line up the srsbznz team. Whos' going to captain the chillax team?
I guess my team would be some sort of rotation between the following:
- Myself
- PX
- headcrabs
- FFM
- Amra
- Dular
- ActionDan
- Dorakyura
- rizock
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I can be on the chillax team perhaps.
I think two teams would also be able to have IH? Logically speaking.
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I'd join a team, but I am awful at the game
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long lane/utility/mid for me.
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We have enough people interested in the game for several teams, not just two :V
Helepolis was kind enough to place me as one of the premier supports of the group but I disagree with that :V It's just the role I enjoy playing the most and probably most competent at, because I'm horrid as carries unless it's ezmodo ones.
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https://dotabuff.com/matches/47120071
Me and Vengeful Spirit were lanning Storm and Beastmaster and it was pretty the "back and forth lane". Weaver dropped a few times but that didn't help our team much since Morphiling and Jugg left the game pretty early. Beastmaster ended up quitting as well and that left bot to our control. Dealing with Weaver and Clinkz at mid game was a bit hard since :invisibility:, but with Ogre Magi and Vengeful there was a very good stunstunstunstun teamplay sinergy opposed to theirs and we ended up winning most teamfights and pushing the game.
tl;dr: Their team was bad and mine was decent.
But of course they lost because Storm didn't have bloodstone.
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That game looks terrible, lol.
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>storm in anything but mid
>oh dear here we go.
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Play Magnus
Give PA Empower and blink-ult into enemy team. Everyone disappears when PA does one attack.
and then i get a game where our weaver gets a divine rapier at 45
two of them
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I noticed that we have so much players that we could actually summon three teams of MotK players. But for now Srsbssemoragers team (Dormio's team) and the casualchillaxnoobwhiners team. (T.B.D.) would suffice. I could captain up for the casual teams. I am not really intending on taking dota2 too serious. I am too old for that shit and I could care less to be honest, and you people rage anyway ha ha ha
/me is brutally murdered by his mistress
Anyway, people who wish to jump between teams after becoming more "skilled" can simply let us know so w/e.
Also Hime, I do seriously think you are one of the better support characters. I think I remember you being quite bro in Dota1 inhouses that I kind of enjoyed seeing support like that. Even in LoL I prefer to play support or at least some sort of bro-character. Carries can go fuck themselves :V
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Carries can go fuck themselves :V
I'd watch Drow go fuck herself. :)
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Some name brainstorming for the chillax team? Already suggested:
- Maidens of the I don't give a fuck
- Backdoor Shrinemaidens
- Maidens of the Chillax
- Chevaliers of the Kaleidoscope
- Gentlemen of the Kaleidoscope
- Maidens of the Cleavage
- Shrine Maidens
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- Maidens of the I don't give a fuck
I wholeheartedly support this name.
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- Backdoor Shrinemaidens
BDSM
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I'd totally backdoor shrine maidens if you know what I mean.
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VEIL JAKIRO
SET EVERYTHING AFLAME.
BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNN.
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- Maidens of the Carrydoscope
- Shrinemacarena
- Crystal Maidens
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- Shrinemacarena
MAKE IT REAL, PLOX.
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Alright, so I'm done making the logo and flags for the srsbznz group. (They blow around in the wind and shit and look fucking sexy)
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oh god where are my pants
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oh god where are my pants
I stole them so that I could use them as an alternate flag in case the gohei didn't work.
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i can totally imagine IH practice games now :V
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Oh my god, those gohei. I am paru.
Maidens of the Chillax is now live.
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Maybe some minor tweaking required to make it picture perfect but it looks nice.
Edit: Now with green logo when you're Radiant.
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Needs a Reimu player2 colour scheme.
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We need to get both teams to the final in a tournament then -arom this shit
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Matching with competitive players make for a bad day. This happened to me a while ago (vs 4 orange): Match ID 32157183
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ill be on the team that doesnt involve a man named rizock
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I am finally remembering how to play this game well. It clicked just recently.
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I am finally remembering how to play this game well. It clicked just recently.
Were you suffering from amnesia before? :V
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More like "since when did you ever know how to play this game well?".
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I just got an invite earlier. If anyone still needs one at this stage and I know who you are, you can ask for it.
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6.76 is out
dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
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6.76 is out
dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
If anyone got the buff stick it's a three-way tie between Drow, Centaur, and Silencer.
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I sorta wanna ask you for that invite just so I can pass it to a cousin Pesco.
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I sorta wanna ask you for that invite just so I can pass it to a cousin Pesco.
I stoled it, sorry. :-(
Which is to say I'll be jumping into this fray. I was promised rage and fury. Is there a basic guide for newbies on DON'T DO THIS or should I take a plunge and see what happens?
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Is there a basic guide for newbies on DON'T DO THIS
Not one in game, yet. There should be a link to a decent one on the first post though.
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Don't play Invoker, Visage, Chen, Enchantress or Meepo.
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Don't play Invoker, Visage, Chen, Enchantress or Meepo.
Those are the overpowered classes or the shit classes? :V
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They are the oh god why are you playing these heroes if you are new to the game characters. None of them are easy to play compared to the rest of the hero pool unless you really want to micro or in invokers case have to press buttons alot and remember the combination for all of his spells
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Those are the overpowered classes or the shit classes? :V
To add on top of what Rikter said, if you can use them effectively, they're very potent. Invoker, Chen and Enchantress are all used in competitive DotA to some degree (I have seen at least one Visage in TI2 and Meepo wasn't out during TI2) just to drive that point.
But they're not at all newbie-friendly.
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Went with Ice Maiden for my first round. One of our team just up and quit after raging for a bit, I got 3/13/??? and was raged at for being a noob. :V I'm in love.
Also I'm apparently a feeder. :V:V:V
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Welcome to dota
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Went with Ice Maiden for my first round. One of our team just up and quit after raging for a bit, I got 3/13/??? and was raged at for being a noob. :V I'm in love.
Also I'm apparently a feeder. :V:V:V
https://dotabuff.com/players/84797011/matches?hero=crystal-maiden&lobby=
above is my very poorly populated track record with crystal maiden
If you play CM, dying a lot is like... uh... second nature
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I went like 3/7/12, I'm pretty happy with that. lol
6/9/6 that's pretty decent right. Man I'm a magic guide reader. Or just lucky.
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Also i recomend building an amrlet on cm. +hp and stuff
https://dotabuff.com/matches/20292547
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Nah, SnY all the way.
https://dotabuff.com/matches/45061920
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Welcome to Dota, Bardiche. You're going to have a great time. But do not worry, it cannot be any worse than mafia now can it?
Also i recomend building an amrlet on cm. +hp and stuff
I can still hear PX about that game.
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Welcome to Dota, Bardiche. You're going to have a great time. But do not worry, it cannot be any worse than mafia now can it?
I don't think so. But then I've only played 3 matches so far, so...
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Well on top of the heroes of what has been said. I would like to point out that at early "tiers" and especially first dozen of games will be full of disconnects / clueless teammates or enemies / whiners / kids etc. Your typical MOBA at low levels. If you manage to "bite" your way through they will become less iffy. (Not that the games we're having are any better).
Also feel free to drag us into games if you want to play with fellow MotKers once you got the hang out of stuff. I personally wouldn't care playing along.
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(Not that the games we're having are any better).
Speak for yourself, scrub.
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Can't wait for the patch to be done to Dota2. <3 Crystal Maiden probably now will be more awesome in future games I think.
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Can't wait for the patch to be done to Dota2. <3 Crystal Maiden probably now will be more awesome in future games I think.
I play Crystal Maiden every game I can. As a player of three games, that's a lot! I also want to give Lina a go because Lina Inverse, but ice just tugs at my heart. Incredibly fun.
So far my experience is positive barring one game where someone was all RAEG.
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So far my experience is positive barring one game where someone was all RAEG.
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1084/antifun.png)
Lina >> CM. On average you die less and kill more.
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You're not as
slutty supporty though, and CM does have two disables (one being AoE) in comparison to Lina's one, which is delayed.
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Newbie games are hilarious and fun to watch, because nobody knows wtf they're doing. Enjoy the fun while it lasts, because it becomes a shithole once you leave the "don't know how to play" tier
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Also Icefrog's waifu Drow Ranger confirmed. He is tryhard-holding-dicks-omg-you-are-warding tweaking Drow to make her appear more. I think on IRC people were mentioning Drow's aura being frikken useful for Enigma Eidolons.
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Broodmother that is all.
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Broodmother that is all.
Ranged only
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Stop mistaking Drow's aura for Vengeful's aura. You bastards!
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13/3/14 with CM I feel like a genuine badarse among the newbies because I read all these guides. We even had three carries but I had mid lane (for some godawful reason) and the other guy on mid lane was a feeder. :D :D :D :D
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I see you have already discovered the secrets of Carry Maiden.
Btw, what is your steam ID? (not your nickname)
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I'll suggest Bard as the invite next time we party up.
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Maybe he'll drop the skill level low enough where we can actually stomp for once.
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I see you have already discovered the secrets of Carry Maiden.
Btw, what is your steam ID? (not your nickname)
You already found me!
Maybe he'll drop the skill level low enough where we can actually stomp for once.
;___; I'm already Battle Level almost2, man! I, I won't be a burden!
Currently I like Crystal Maiden, Jakiro and Apparition a lot. Crystal Maiden is my favourite, but Jakiro has an awesome Stun that works defensively, and Apparition's Ult is very cool.
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battle level doesn't mean shit, lol.
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The battle points / level is currently a major mystery. The only thing known is, every level up you gain a random item for sure. The match making I guess will look at your total games played or something but god knows how the tier system works. Sometimes we have easy games being high tier and visa versa. AA ult is pretty nifty ye.
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The battle points / level is currently a major mystery. The only thing known is, every level up you gain a random item for sure. The match making I guess will look at your total games played or something but god knows how the tier system works. Sometimes we have easy games being high tier and visa versa. AA ult is pretty nifty ye.
I thought battle points were calculated based on three things: Did you win/lose, How many minutes, and how many battle bonuses were used. (http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Battle_Points)
Battle points are likely to be used in the MM system, but win/loss are probably more significant. Battle points only mean you spent a certain amount of time playing, which doesn't really say much.
Update: I asked around about this, ChocolateWaffle (One of the mods of the DotA 2 wiki) tells me that battle points/level does not affect the MM at all for now. MM uses your elo, which is essentially just basic rating (Wins/Losses). Depending on how you queue (If you queue with someone stronger and win, you win more Elo, but if you lose, you lose less than you would normally), it will affect your elo differently.
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Yeah, battle level isn't a mystery at all.
I thought I said this several times. :derp:
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Playing with Helepolis and Pesco seals it: I'm a terrible feeder. I tend to focus on getting support items with auras as CM, but I guess I should get wards. Can wards be taken from my stash by other people?
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Playing with Helepolis and Pesco seals it: I'm a terrible feeder. I tend to focus on getting support items with auras as CM, but I guess I should get wards. Can wards be taken from my stash by other people?
Wards can be freely shared among allies/courier. The warding and placing them is like a whole new dimension of the game. You'll get the hang more out of it the more you play really (the ultimate warding guide will later on reveal more on that but it is more for "serious gaming")
If you read the " laning " phase in the newbie guide, you can understand that spamming your Q skill too much isn't going to work out. Also, I shouldn't be bothered too much about your role as CM. Just learn some more heroes. Get the hang of the game and their skills and then start deciding whether you want to advance with a hero better. And Mech / basilus ring on CM isn't that terrible you know. Mechanism is useful for us all so that one is ok.
Anyway like I said and TL DR: Worry less about feeding/being less skilled. Focus more on getting knowing the game.
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battle level doesn't mean shit, lol.
Battle level is pretty much oh they have played games and you have a rough idea of how much they played.
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People who expect me to buy wards as support should feel highly dissapointed because im to busy building an armlet.
Alsoalsoalso new aghanims on meepp, build armlet on meepo and have him sit in fountain.
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Battle level is pretty much oh they have played games and you have a rough idea of how much they played.
or a rough idea of how much money they've sunk into battle bonuses. it's a very general number and doesn't take into account anyone who plays a lot of inhouse.
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Can wards be taken from my stash by other people?
Not directly from your stash. Place them in your courier, then have your ally pick them up via the courier.
I want more inhouses :ohdear:
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That -AP game was so bad. Everyone randomed and I ended with Chen, and of course somebody on the other team picked Bounty Hunter. Oh boy. :D
That PotM game was fun though.
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Not directly from your stash. Place them in your courier, then have your ally pick them up via the courier.
I want more inhouses :ohdear:
Get on IRC at #dots-meido, so we can set up inhouses. We usually do have anywhere between 6-11 people at any moment who want to play dotas.
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By dotas you actually mean dots.
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and by dots-meido you mean ero-manga-meido, right? (you can come inside)
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(you can come inside)
[07:59:37] <Junko_Dormoshima> > Everyone can come inside.
[07:59:39] <Junko_Dormoshima> creampie
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[nsfw][/nsfw]But that's too lewd!
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Take your perverted minds elsewhere, perverts.
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
How is a cream pie that everyone is coming inside for perverted?
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I wanna play with Bardiche!
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Went 19/3/15 with Jakiro. No one came close to 10 kills. But that GODDAMN FEEDER FUCKING LET THEM WIN THE GODDAMN GAME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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THAT CRIT. THAT CRIT!!!!!!!
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THAT FUCKING CRIT!
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Went 19/3/15 with Jakiro. No one came close to 10 kills. But that GODDAMN FEEDER FUCKING LET THEM WIN THE GODDAMN GAME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
From my experience, I suggest getting used to this feel because you're likely to experience it at least once out of every three or so matches.
IMO, Jakiro's probably the best hero in the game at the moment. New ice path's one of the best ganking skills around, with effectiveness close to ES's fissure except with much lower manacost and cooldown.
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Not best hero in the game, but definitely a legit pick with new ice path.
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From my experience, I suggest getting used to this feel because you're likely to experience it at least once out of every three or so matches.
I play World of Tanks, so no stranger to having great performance* personally but having derps mess it up for you. Like getting 7 kills out of 15 in my AMX 50 100... and still lose. HOW DOES A TEAM LOSE WHEN I TOOK OUT HALF THE ENEMY TEAM?!?! HOW?!?!?
But yeah. DotA is heaps of fun right now and playing with the MoTK gang kind of reduces the frustrating.
* Great as in, personally feel like you're doing great.
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That's because we don't take it that seriously unless we take it seriously.
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That's because we don't take it that seriously unless we take it seriously.
Doea this mean you wont get angry if i build an armlet on kotl?
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i added some peoples
What's your IGN Bardiche?
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I play World of Tanks, so no stranger to having great performance* personally but having derps mess it up for you. Like getting 7 kills out of 15 in my AMX 50 100... and still lose. HOW DOES A TEAM LOSE WHEN I TOOK OUT HALF THE ENEMY TEAM?!?! HOW?!?!?
I know this feeling with World of Tanks. I was warned before installing by my RL friends that you had to play WoT with major casual -500% care mode. And it kind of works, but sometimes I do scratch my head at certain situations.
Then again, a 15v15 is quite chaos anyway :V
Edit:
Bardiche, have you run into this Crystal Maiden yet? :V
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I have, HeLOLpolis, I have.
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Hey, Hele, my username breaks the formatting in the OP. :V
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Hey, Hele, my username breaks the formatting in the OP. :V
I know and I cannot get it fixed whatever I do. Making tables is hell in... oh wait, I'll try the code tags.
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why dont you try updating that list too
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why dont you try updating that list too
I'll fuse Dormio's list with mine and then call it a day :V
After some dota.
List updated. I said this before and I'll say it again. The majority of the nicknames are not the actual steamIDs. So if the real ID isn't there, let me know in this thread so I can adjust.
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I'll fuse Dormio's list with mine and then call it a day :V
Nah, I got several more people from MotK that play the dotards onto my friends list so the one I made previously is outdated.
I can update it if you want, but you should keep on top of these things, Helepolis. :derp:
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we should inhouse some time.
Preferably in 3 hours. or 2 maybe
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Nah, I got several more people from MotK that play the dotards onto my friends list so the one I made previously is outdated.
I can update it if you want, but you should keep on top of these things, Helepolis. :derp:
Being a busy man is suffering you know. Also the list should be MotK only, as you know we all have our friends and not everybody would want to have their name there (unless they offered to). In any case like I said, if there is something to be added, post it here.
we should inhouse some time.
Preferably in 3 hours. or 2 maybe
Inhouses are often summoned in the weekends. Weekdays it is kind of hard, busy people (ry.
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Also the list should be MotK only
Of course, else my list would be even bigger.
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Steam ID/MotK Profile
도미오/Dormio
macaiah|Argo fuck yourself/PX
Helepolis/Helepolis
ParasiteCat/Magna
Dular/Dular
Loolicon/Messiah
Amra/Amra
Rikter/Rikter
TransientStar/DollS
K/K
Midnight.소녀.Reimu/AkurouNyan
Dr Rawr/nurse rawr
pandas/Panda
FFMaster/FFMaster
Hero999/Hero999
rizock/:o)
↑↑↓↓←→←→ⒷⒶ/headcrabs
KFCBBQ/KFCBBQ
Prody/Colt
Pesco/Pesco
Greshdaf/Tapsa
elcye/elcye
Dorakyura/Dorakyura
LILY.kirinon/TranceHime
Yaersulf/Yaersulf
EP Sandwhichpressers/EP
Renko Usami/Deviox
Bill.TK/Z_god
Yukarin/Yukarin
TheGaPKerigis/Kerigis
SiG/Apharmdb
Averruncus/Averruncus
Infinity/Infinity
Yadogari/Yadogari
Flandre Scarlet/Princess Flandre(Ace-Royale)
Thanuris/Thanuris
Galfrey/Galfrey
Macca Beam/Formless
ActionDan/Action Dan
Collector Lumby/Kurumibi
Chaore/Chaore
Star the Fairy/Sefam
HangedHourai - feeling dapper/Hanged Hourai
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I'd prefer my Steam isn't made public.
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And it's gone.
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Thank you~
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My steam ID is trancell
LiLY.kirinon is just my current name...
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See, and this the main reason why I refused to update the list because nicknames != steamIDs. But yea, whining people non-stop.
Also your steamID is correct on the OP hime.
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You find people through their nicknames so...
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You can shorten my name to just Formless. The Anarchy bit was some flavor of the season thing that I completely forgot to change :V
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(http://puu.sh/1iQ4S)
Sniper too stronk.
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Centaur whar Dormio?
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(http://puu.sh/1iQsm)
THE SNIPING CONTINUES.
And other people play Bradwarden so I'm content to roll with Sniper.
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if centaur is kept the way he is he's gonna be a ban or people are going to draft techies just to counter that silliness jesus christ.
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if centaur is kept the way he is he's gonna be a ban or people are going to draft techies just to counter that silliness jesus christ.
i have to try him now just to see how badly i fuck him up
with dormio sniping
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i have to try him now just to see how badly i fuck him up
with dormio sniping
as long as you press r, you win!
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(http://i.imgur.com/d8FSH.jpg)
I never knew I could be that disappoint with a team. EVERYONE quit immediately. The enemy team was all sadface because I killed more of them than they of me. Stampede in, AoE Stun, smack a bitch around and retreat was a winner strategy. Once I just murdered all of them in one go. :-)
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I want to be in your tier Bard.
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Y u no armlet
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I want to be in your tier Bard.
+1
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+1
I want to be in your tier Bard.
Suck as hard as I do and you'll get there. :D
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(http://puu.sh/1jBsz)
I won mid in every single one of these games, bar one. And that was because I decided to suicide for a courier.
Oh well, people don't seem to want to do anything when I'm ganking.
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nothing to do with getting our shit rolled by centaur. (at least in the one with me. :)
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Included in other lanes failing.
But, yeah, centaur's ult is stupid right now.
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If Centaur's Ult only affected himself it'd still be stupid strong, it just wouldn't let him let any hero on the map do the same. :V
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Dear Dota2 players, if you want to win games you just have to follow this simple map awareness and attack strategy. This solid tactic always works.
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Big plays.
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If Centaur's Ult only affected himself it'd still be stupid strong, it just wouldn't let him let any hero on the map do the same. :V
it would just be "good ult" not "stupid strong"
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no guys, they should give centaur Great Fortitude back, and also buff the +36 STR bonus to +90 STR since that just isn't as good as +40 AGI which drow gets with level 3 ult as we know fairly well from mechanics
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it would just be "good ult" not "stupid strong"
Fair enough. :V
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drow is still the same besides the fact that she allows minions to do awesome split pushing
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So Centaur's getting nerfed, but it'll still be a stunning global 3.75s max speed rush machine. Just less damaging.
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and moderately more cooldown. Still not nerfed enough imo.
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Need more counters for centaur (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmg7_j41dns)
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(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/937007313315560988/19BD6B8A2F4EB7C64E484D0CCA94E3EAC5A1198F/)
Fuck this event, it's too hard.
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I want a seraphic egg :<
EDIT: Which reminds me: If you're going to trade an egg, trade it BEFORE essences are added. Trading an egg removes all essences.
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This event is pro-farming yo. Too much farming. Too addictive it seems for some people.
Edit
For the people who have no clue: Halloween event. You can read the details on the blog/site (http://blog.dota2.com/). TL DR: You farm candies from baby Roshans, team with most candy after timer win. You can also steal candy from each other etc. Quite casual if you don't take it too serious.
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We must organize a 5v5 in Diretide and focus on Roshan killing. We shall be forever immortalized in DotA 2 if we get the fastest time yoh.
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Best record so far is 17 seconds.
We can't even do a teamfight properly :V
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Lots of divine rapiers I think. Diretide is kinda fun.
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What's the rarity on the unusual, subtle, and strange essences?
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What's the rarity on the unusual, subtle, and strange essences?
No idea, but I think I got a strange essence just after 8 games. Guess it is major random luck.
Best record so far is 17 seconds.
Make that 0,09 seconds. The exploit is breaking the fun.
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Well fuck Rosh then let's just kick some asses.
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For farming items it is pretty do-able. Also, Meepo is a frikken jerk in Diretide. Basically mobility + dps + disables == win.
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Also, Meepo is a frikken jerk in Diretide. Basically mobility + dps + disables == win.
wut.
Don't you mean bugged so he can snowball hard?
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wut.
Don't you mean bugged so he can snowball hard?
That is what I meant.
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I'm most concenered about the economy revolving around these essences (http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/46097067)
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I am sure most people noticed it but Roshan's death animation is quite nostalgic.
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Yes, it is the terminator 2 pose. Astalavista Baby! (╯?□?)b
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So we met another 5 man premade and got 1:00:25 with them. I'm pretty sure we can beat 0:47:02
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It was a good hustle.
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btw TF2B allows you to check your dotards inventory to make trading easier if you want.
http://tf2b.com/
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;w;
I finally figured out how to enable right click denying, stop auto auto-attacking, see spell range when i click to use it instead of just when i hover over it, and i rebinded hero select to space and my items to numbers instead of my nonexistant keypad or whatever it was.
I promise not to feed as hard. (> ^_^)> ~~~~ <3
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btw TF2B allows you to check your dotards inventory to make trading easier if you want.
http://tf2b.com/
While on the subject of trading, I'm willing to trade some of my shiny items for treasure keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/90632
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Well my Omniknight is now even more decked out in items because I got another rare Omniknight item today. Only slot left to fill is Body-Head.
Also I got an Omniknight hammer twice from the same game...
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Um, none of those are worth a key. Maybe all together, but not even stranges are worth a key on a 1 to 1 basis. The courier yes, but not the other stuff.
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Tiny skin is 2keys, dont remember what else was there.
Courier is 3 i think
TA hair is 2keys(you got that one right)
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I'm really liking Wisp for Diretide. Buffing ATK speed and zipping in for 12 secs before leaving is retardly good for ganking enemy stash.
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dota2 prices confuse me.
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I usually estimate prices using the prices in the Dota 2 store as a guide. However, to any person familiar to Steam Trading, supply and demand is most likely what's causing item prices to fluctuate. For example, I think the general price of most items would decrease now that a whole bunch of them are given out at a pretty large rate through diretide.
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So that there team that got 30 seconds on Roshan? They are jerks. They basically manipulated their MMR in such a way that they would automatically 10 man the game. How can we compete with that? =(
I did figure out a way to -potentially- get about 25 seconds, but we'd have to do our own 10 man premade. We'd have to practice a few times in an inhouse or something though.
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So does anyone have the Sylvan Guards Dress Armor or Bow in DotA 2? I'm still looking for those pieces of the set.
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http://tinypic.com/r/34nij4i/6
done
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Okay, me, PX, Chaore, Hanged Hourai, and Hero999 5-manned diretide and somehow found 5 people willing to sit around for 10 hours for a chance at golden roshan courier. The record right now is 8 seconds, and I'm going to get 100,000 strength for a 1 shot KO. Right now I'm at 1500, so I'm about 1.5% done. It'll take about 10 hours to get this.
It'll be worth it though.
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I'm mad that I wasn't invited to this. :/
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It hasn't been 10 hours and you're marked as not in game. I take it the plan is over.
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They abandoned that particular game due to the enemy having levelled up before it started and therefore taking much longer due to increased respawn times.
The next three hours were wasted trying to find a cooperative party.
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10 new accounts man. The only way we're going to be absolutely sure of getting our MMR right.
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we have added EP to the madness.
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Hey guys. I just got Dota 2 now. I want in some fun~
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I want in some fun~
I want in some fun~
fun
(http://i.imgur.com/C4lx8.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/C4lx8.png)
D:
why
Have any tips or suggestions for a new guy?
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The 'You suck' guide in the OP covers it all. Purge wrote it very well and is probably the least offensive thing you can get that tells you how to play.
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we have added EP to the madness.
Yep, that was bloody fun. :V
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don't worry, you'll generally have a 5 queue to play with. no need to get raged at.
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the record is now 6 seconds. Also the pictures.
I blame dormio.
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it s alright
spending 7 hours through tiebreaker to grind pudge to 10000 str so he can e blade half roshan s health doesnt sound fun
or however the hell they did it the replay is apparently glitched
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it s alright
spending 7 hours through tiebreaker to grind pudge to 10000 str so he can e blade half roshan s health doesnt sound fun
or however the hell they did it the replay is apparently glitched
Yeah they did that. Not sure if one shot since the time is 6.
Dular'll prolly get a look at it- We'll prolly need to find a new way for the next cycle though.
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It probably is one shot because Roshan does stun you during the cutscene, and time is ticking during then.
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Assuming that he can tp to rosh within those 6 seconds as well, it has to be one or 2 shots for the kill.
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Assuming that he can tp to rosh within those 6 seconds as well, it has to be one or 2 shots for the kill.
Have wisp channel relocate and tether to pudge, then attack a bucket before wisp teleports.
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D:
why
Have any tips or suggestions for a new guy?
Id also recomened queueing with dormio/dular/headcrabs. Mostly because of how hard they can carry some games, everyone else i wouldnt trust.
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So I got this rare blade for Juggernaut called something of Ivory and someone asked me if I wanted to sell it him. Is it that valuable?
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Its probably just a key or 2. What was the person offering?
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Its probably just a key or 2. What was the person offering?
They went offline but we'd talk tomorrow, apparently. Just a key or two is more than enough for me, as I'm not terribly interested in playing Juggernaut.
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They went offline but we'd talk tomorrow, apparently. Just a key or two is more than enough for me, as I'm not terribly interested in playing Juggernaut.
Well another thing you can do is look at his inventory and see if he has any items you want
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So I got this rare blade for Juggernaut called something of Ivory and someone asked me if I wanted to sell it him. Is it that valuable?
Ooo, Ivory sword for Juggernaut. I have all the other sets but that one. Can I trade with you something for it? Pleeease?
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>Trade with random Russian
>Trade with someone I know
HARD DECISION.
Sure, DollS. What do you have up for trade for it? '3'
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actually if you have red essences I'm willing to trade for those since I need two of them to finish this egg.
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I'm sitting on 4 spare exorts and 3 wexes.
I'll make the trade.
Alternatively, throw the thing at DollS and I'll give you the exorts whenever you're actually online.
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Played Jugger today and wow, Omni-slash is pretty awesome. Sword looks good too! I still want to trade it away though as I'm not looking for Pretty Pretty Princess Dress Up items overmuch.
I'm fine with giving it to DollS in return for the two reds I need. :D
DollS, bother Durr for your sword, okay?
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qq If only I had a laptop that could support Dota2. I'm missing all the fun, not using YJLuck and stuff...
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Hmm, I knew I forgot to check something yesterday...
Thanks Dormio and Bardiche for the trade!~
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I've got like four yellow, a blue and a red essence right now, so if anyone needs their egg completed (or doesn't play much and wants to donate an egg to a great cause (me!)), gimme a word and I'll send over free of charge. I also have Rare Pauldrons for the Dragon Knight I'm more than fine to part with, although those come at a price I'm afraid; Something neat for Drow'd be rad.
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Seems I now have 3 extra copies of DotA 2 to give away. Any takers?
If not I might just use them as part of MC and/or TF2 server specials for the Christmas season.
EDIT: There was more than one
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All of them to meeeeee.
Or Dulard. I guess. Maybe. Loser.
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ahahaha 1 invite for 1 ref. gonna wait out this massive inflation and try and pick up Bioshock 2
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I'll take one :V
It's not like the dota 2 invites are worth anything anymore
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We need to hoard 10 invites for the next time an event rolls around, which I would imagine being at Christmas. Any invites after that are spare.
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Invites are decreasing in price? I wonder if it would be a good idea to gather heaps of them, if they were worth at least 2 keys before there might be a chance they'll go back to that price some time in the future.
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We need to hoard 10 invites for the next time an event rolls around, which I would imagine being at Christmas. Any invites after that are spare.
Or we could get 10 invites immediately and go for the current event :V
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If we got 10 then let's do this.
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I can contribute one, at least.
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I only have one myself. I think Dormio got 3 :V
On a side note, in a flash of brilliance, I have discovered quite possibly the fastest possible legit team(some testing required), I imagine it can be done in about 6.5 seconds. That's less than half of the current record guys. If we get those invites and get 10 people together, I guarantee we'll be in the hall of fame.. Provided we're coordinated enough for this.
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Total of 6 invites by my count right now.
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I only have one myself. I think Dormio got 3 :V
The hell? I said I got none. :derp:
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I might have one.
Still not sure what's going on
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I have 3 invites as well, not sure I want to create a new steam account though.....
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I now have a fourth invite somehow.
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Maybe it's because I have too many friends that are already playing the dotards. :(
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I just randomly got 4 invites and I dont even play this game :V
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I just randomly got 4 invites and I dont even play this game :V
well this is a good time to make you start then
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I just randomly got 4 invites and I dont even play this game :V
I didn't get any invites and I play this game. D:
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Awright, we got about 9 invites right now. We can steal one from Suikama or something. We'll get something done, so we need to start organizing this. At least 9 other people are needed(I'm the 10th), so I propose on Friday the 9th we get some people together and do my awesome 6.5 second plan, and spend some time going over how it's done, what heroes we'll need to be and what to do. What I don't want is "I'll see if I can make it." I need yes or no. If you can't make the time, say what time you are available(in pacific time just because) and we'll see if we can work something out.
Additionally, we'll do this again on Sunday at 8pm pacific time in case someone beats our record or comes up with a new exploit that we'll simply have to improve upon, mostly by milliseconds. Of course, if no one beats the record at that point, we'll try to improve anyways just to smug at people.
Friday: 2pm pacific
- Dular
- Dormio
- Chaore
- PX
- Dorakyura
- Pesco
Sunday: 5pm Pacific
- Dular
- Dormio
- Chaore
- DollS
- Faf
- Helepolis
- Messiah
- Kurumbi
Friday: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20121109T14&p0=234&msg=Golden+Roshan+Courier
Sunday: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20121111T17&p0=234&msg=Golden+Roshan+Courier
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Hey, don't you dare count me out.
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...I cannot make either time. Which is unfortunate, as I can also get an extra three invites, for a total of four.
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I'll take the invites off you.
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Oooor I could hang onto them in hopes of finding an event that I can participate in. >_>
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Do the time conversions for me and I'll tell you if I can make it or not. Set your time in this countdown thing (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/create) so nobody gets the time wrong.
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When ARE you available then Kurumi? Is it something small like an hour?
Friday: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20121109T14&p0=234&msg=Golden+Roshan+Courier
Sunday: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20121111T17&p0=234&msg=Golden+Roshan+Courier
Make a post if you want to sign up.
Additionally, each session will probably last 2-4 hours, depending on how smooth everything goes.
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It's not a small time, it's just an awkward one - I'm available between 9:30PM-6AM and 10AM-4PM Sunday through Thursday, and only 10AM-4PM Friday and Saturday.
(Central time in case you're wondering - add an hour for Eastern, subtract one for Mountain, subtract two for Pacific)
...which means that I can actually make the Sunday time. Wow, I am retarded. Still can't make Friday, though.
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...which means that I can actually make the Sunday time. Wow, I am retarded. Still can't make Friday, though.
Time zones mess up everyone.
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The friday slot is 4 on saturday morning for me. The sunday slot is 7 on monday morning when I'd rather be getting ready to go submit my paper.
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I'm a noob, but I can make Sunday if you guys need an extra man at that time.
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I do have an account that has never been played on (on dota). And I can make it on friday.
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Messiah reminded me that if you are available for only Sunday, unless you are bringing your own invite, you can't join since everyone needs a fresh dota 2 account that has 0 matches. If we happen to have extras, there shouldn't be a problem.
*Looks at Kurumbi*
And remember guys, we're malleable. If you can come an hour later or earlier, we'll try to work something out.
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Yes, I still have them :p
Four in total (though, obviously, I need one for myself).
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I can make both times. Friday I have no night shifts, so I'll be available and sunday I don't even work, so yeah.
Count me in.
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id rather see the final lineup first before i decide if i want to do this.
Also using only 1 orchird is ideal, but were probably going to need 2.
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some people just got 5.5 secs i think
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so they got him down far enough with one orchird? :V
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Ah lol.
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The lineup might require a bit of replanning, planning to talk to some people in #Dots-Meido tonight. I'll post it after that.
Also, the new record is 5.29 seconds. This is gonna require some serious timing :V
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most of the timing comes from the orchird if not all. we just need to make sure we deal enough damage in 5 seconds
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Not so much, it comes from the person holding the Orchid to appear immediately after the timer, then immediately pausing so he can shift-queue it(No one has reflexes faster than .05 seconds), and then beating everyone up.
The banish and the pause are the two perfect timing parts. The rest is relatively easy.
Edit: Record is now 5:23. This is gonna take a couple tries to say the least :V
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Another invite?! How?!
Used it on my TF2 crate disposal account. :V
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wtf i havent gotten any extra invites in a year
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I can participate in the Sunday one maybe but can someone else create a new steam account for me? I feel uncomfortable (and lazy) to create a new one. I really hate signing up for things.....
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I forgot to mention, but the method used will probably be one of two things.
One will be the same method used in the current hall of fame, and hoping we're faster. This method comes down to luck, and I'll probably be controlling Syllabear, I'm pretty confident in my mouse-mashing speed. More clicks=more chances to be under 5.13 seconds
The second method is a thought I had: Instead of using soul burn, just skip the soul burn altogether and try to kill Roshan under 5 seconds. This one requires even more precise timing than the above method, and requires using the Pudge method to try and gain as much strength as possible in 15 minutes, and some other strange quirks. This one is about as likely to happen as it is not happening frankly.
If this ends up as 5 men only, well we're just going to 5 man queue and ask the other team to play along. The first method can be done with just 5 people and two random people playing along.
Time zones mess up everyone.
I accidentally put the times for both contests 3 hours later than it was supposed to be, this has been fixed. Sorry for the confusion.
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How long does a cycle last? It'd probably be best to attempt this near the end of a cycle so no one tries to beat the old time.
I might be free to participate on Sunday. Not friday's though, I'm always busy on weekdays.
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The next cycle supposedly ends... Uh.
Well Amra or PX said that dota is updated on Thursdays, and supposedly for someone on the east coast(me) it's friday morning, so we'll miss the current cycle. Friday will be trying to do the record and keeping it. If someone beats it, Sunday will be the last chance to beat it.
Additionally: There is yet another new method I came up with. It'll get this thing done in about .5 seconds, give or take .2 seconds. How's that for speed?
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How long does a cycle last? It'd probably be best to attempt this near the end of a cycle so no one tries to beat the old time.
24 hours.
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If that was true we'd be only like, cycle 10. We're still on cycle 4.
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Wired.
For some reason, I recall reading an announcement that the records would be reset daily. Oh well , no clue then.
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Probably will be able to make it sunday as well unless something abnormal do happen at the time.
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/in for Friday.
Changed my mind, please put me down for Sunday instead
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I just randomly got 4 invites and I dont even play this game :V
Time to ditch your Sona and trade her for awesome DotA2. You know you want it Suikma
(or you can just keep playing with Sona's oppai and play dota2)
About the Russhians try hard event, I think I am available on Sunday. Tonight Faf and me are most likely unable to. Then again I am like 24/7 around anyway.
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I'm not going to be able to show up on Sunday until ~7:30PM (pacific) at the earliest.
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Touhou names on the new accounts. This is mandatory.
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Call them now if you want a specific one.
Of course, I'm going to be Murasa.
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<----- Mine as a given
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I call the saint
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Dibs on Youkai Je-
I call the saint
FUCK
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My account name is Nyan Nyan and has Seiga and I am not changing it :V
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So the friday test was wildly unsuccessful. The method I came up with, while sound in concept, was not good in practicality because we were too disorganized to get everything we needed. At the final match we did finally get all the positions right(minus 1), but sadly it seems that everyone was too surprised by this and Roshan just ended up walking away.*
*dramatic re-enactment.
I'm going to expand on what everyone has to do and switch up the line-up to the more stream-line build. We can do it faster, just need to be prepared for it. Maybe even make picture diagrams of positions. One things for sure: If you don't show someone 100% what to do, someone will mess up. I was subject to this too.
Oh, and Dormio got a courier after the first game. Go figure.
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Oh, and Dormio got a courier after the first game. Go figure.
8)
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I think we did as good as can be expected. At least half the theorycrafting was correct and we had the people for a few attempts.
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WELL. Turns out my theorycrafting was correct after all. The new method skips out on Lina and Lion and puts in... Fed Pudge, and then they do the Orchid trick. I didn't even consider doing the orchid trick, which was dumb of me I think. They even stop at the 5 minute mark to do other things which makes me feel bad.
Same plan, difference between us and actually organized people. With renewed vigor at my first plan succeeding though, we're going to try it again... Slightly different though of course.
Edit: After a long and deliberate thought session, I decided to cancel the hall of fame attempt on Sunday. With the record at 2.39, that's easy for us. We can do that, then it got to 1.99... Well, very difficult, but still possible.
And then it got to 1.79 seconds.
Realistically speaking, we cannot do this due to the amount of people we need who all have lives and more important things to do, the amount of time we need, and the amount of practice we need(It'll take at LEAST 10 games of doing this before we get close to the record), with the time constraints of the event ending that night, it's just not going to happen.
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No more dreams, only sleep.
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There'll be another chance at Christmas. I'm sure of it.
But before that, I still need essences to fill up my egg.
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Well at least we still have our new accounts which we can stomp and lose every game with.
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Got a Rare Tiny Skin. I think I'm satisfied with my Diretide haul.
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Diretide haul? What's that?
...
fucking thesis... :X
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There'll be another chance at Christmas. I'm sure of it.
But before that, I still need essences to fill up my egg.
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There'll be another chance at Christmas. I'm sure of it.
But before that, I still need essences to fill up my egg.
I have some essences. If you catch me on you can have any spare essences I have fol flee.
Diretide haul? What's that?
...
fucking thesis... :X
Diretide is an event where you get an item when you beat Roshan and another item if your team gathered the most candy. I got a bunch of rares out of it so I'm pretty happy with what I got even if I didn't get mythical items or a Rare Essence/Mythical Essence. :x
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Diretide is an event where you get an item when you beat Roshan and another item if your team gathered the most candy. I got a bunch of rares out of it so I'm pretty happy with what I got even if I didn't get mythical items or a Rare Essence/Mythical Essence. :x
I felt the exact same way, but on the last day I got a courier AND a shadow Essence. I was like :D
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Diretide is an event where you get an item when you beat Roshan and another item if your team gathered the most candy. I got a bunch of rares out of it so I'm pretty happy with what I got even if I didn't get mythical items or a Rare Essence/Mythical Essence. :x
dude i've played diretide
it was a joke because i never got to play very often, since you know
fucking thesis :X
so
NO COURIER
NO MYTHIC ITEMS
NO SPECIAL ESSENCES
NO SPECIAL EGGS
i hate you all
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firstly, OH GOD PLEASE END DIRETIDE
secondly, Dormio/Dular/Headcrabs/PX/Myself will be representing at the fnatic Revenge tournament tomorrow. Wish us luck, we're probably not gonna get far.
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Waking up at 4AM for some dotards. Yeah!
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You guys still better do your best. It's going to be MotK frontpage news.
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im mostly interested in what kind of bans/picks you people plan to do
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Well we got me on hard support, headcrabs on carry, dormio on mid/hardlane/jungle, dular on mid/jungle, and PX as w/e. we can swap around, but if it's not Dular or Dormio on mid or I'm for some reason on a carry besides Naga, we're doing something horribly wrong.
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just reading that little tidbit already makes me lose faith :(. unless headcrabs carrys so hard like never before
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mid/jungle? What happened to mid/support.
Jungle is my worst area :V
You guys still better do your best. It's going to be MotK frontpage news.
"5 longtime members banned after losing in 1st round in tournament, representing forums."
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So unusual essences are worth roughly 4 times their price now. Where can I find a time machine?
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So unusual essences are worth roughly 4 times their price now. Where can I find a time machine?
So glad I hung on to mine. I'm going to sit on these two eggs, several wex, exort, and quas, and this one unusual essence for a while.
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So they released Slark. Pitiful base stats.
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So they released Slark. Pitiful base stats.
That's the point. Essence Shift.
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High tier matchmaking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz7D3FE5Gt4).
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<leshrac
probably should've left your ass to rot. :P
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You missed your first stun, noob.
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<leshrac
probably should've left your ass to rot. :P
High tier matchmaking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz7D3FE5Gt4).
<lina
Pretend you didn't see her
>sniper: i didn't actually see all of that before, but it was definitely good shit
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stop feeding Dan
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So they released Slark. Pitiful base stats.
Normal Tier Matchmaking:
(http://puu.sh/1riDl)
High Tier Matchmaking:
(http://puu.sh/1riDN)
What I really liked was that in both of these games, there was a gondar on the enemy team to "counterpick" me.
I don't think these people understand dark pact.
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So they released Slark. Pitiful base stats.
weaver has pitiful base stats, didn't stop him from being reasonably good from the getgo.
same case with slark, he loves that skill set.
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Single Draft, got Skeleton King. Figured I'd try him since the Dota guide says he's fairly simple to play. (Only one ability I can use.)
Get ganked early in the bottom lane, things aren't looking bright. To make matters worse only one guy on our team has ranged. Rest of us are melee. All of us are carry.
Enemy pushes to our ancient almost, needs to drop one more tower. The situation looks grim as two people quit. Ursa, Skeleton King and Bloodseeker form a threefold alliance to drive back the Radiant.
We repelled them for a while. Before we knew it, Skeleton King was one-shotting people, Ursa was tearing shit up and Bloodseeker just finished off shit. Enemy team wiped, we push... and before we know it their Ancient is under siege.
Holy shit did that ever become a turnabout round.
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lesson learned:
don't stall versus two carries and bloodseeker.
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You guys had SK/Ursa and didn't level 1 rosh?! For shame!
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Oh boy, another one of these solo-queue games where people give nightstalker 4 kills within 2 minutes.
Morale of the story: Play gankers at low ranking.
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Moral of the story: don't soloqueue unless you can speak russian.
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Ogmag_rival_04.mp3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwKXqvUfx2I)
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Moral of the story: don't soloqueue unless you can speak russian.
The amount of Russians on Europe is ridiculous. I mean, there's a Russia server to queue on, and yet they choose to queue in Europe. Could the name of it get changed back to Sweden then? kkthxbai (just kidding)
Might be worth mentioning that i play this game as well though i prefer LoL since the people i used to play LoL with has moved over to Dota 2 and i actually find it kind of enjoyable. I mean, Support is actually engaging during laning due to denying and the items, oh god the items. I'm pretty terrible though :/
Name's MoltenTruros on steam and Centaur is a boss.
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True fax the reason Russians don't queue on Russia is because they also hate the Russians you play with despite acting exactly like them.
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I actually queue in America now despite worse ping because fuck the Russians, they never communicate.
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The Russian server you people speak of is actually in Stockholm.
Just you know.
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The Russian server you people speak of is actually in Stockholm.
Just you know.
That's why i mentioned the whole "change it back to Sweden" because i recall it at one point being named that.
Anyways, I played a quite even game with my cousin and his friends. I was playing Tiny and my job the entire game was to Blink Dagger into fights, stun as many as possible and maybe throw someone while our Sniper and Spectre rips the enemy team apart, though we had so stall until late-game to be able to pull it off. The enemy Bloodseeker was a real pain in the buttocks, building Force Staff and then proceeding to ult someone and then push him, causing the person in question to take some of the damage, wether he wanted to or not. And our Bane was a true boss, locking down three people at the same time, one of which was a Tidehunter with Refresher. So, that was a blast.
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Guys. Keeper of the Light is totally fucking awesome.
That is all.
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Guys. Keeper of the Light is totally fucking awesome.
That is all.
Stop hoarding all the mana :I
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Keeper of the
nyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyx
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Formless Void
Demanding your name and avatar gets changed to Faceless Void.
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Stop hoarding all the mana :I
No! It's MY Mana!
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OLD MAN, MANA PLEASE.
Speaking of old men, I haven't seen Rizock around lately.
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Dreamhack has been pretty awesome to watch so far. Some technical issues and Puppey being a dork walking in front of the camera, esports is coming along great as a watchable thing.
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Enjoyable stream definitely so far.
PS: The commentators look like they haven't had a shower in a few days. :V
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Okay so I just got an invite and started practicing with bots. Main problem is I don't know what any hero does yet.
I'm just rolling skeleton king right now for maximum simplicity. Who are the heroes that I need to know what they do if they're on the enemy side or they will murder me (e.g. like Eiki in dots)?
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HAY GUYS.
I WANNA BE COOL TOO.
Steam name: HELLCHICKEN
MOTK name: Alliterator
P.S. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING SO I'LL PICK WHATEVER IS MOST BULLETPROOF AND RUN IN CIRCLES WHILE EVERYONE ELSE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHES STUFF.
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What you need to do is to friend us on steam and we can have FUN MAGICAL ADVENTURES IN CUSTOM LOBBIES WHERE WE FUCK AROUND, TELL YOU HOW TO PLAY, AND STOMP THE BOTS HARD.
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I'm just rolling skeleton king right now for maximum simplicity. Who are the heroes that I need to know what they do if they're on the enemy side or they will murder me (e.g. like Eiki in dots)?
Most of the casters will wreck your shit. People like Invoker, Dark Seer, Queen of Pain, Rubick, Wisp, Shadow Demon, Shadow Shaman, Disrupter, Magnataur, Nyx Assassin and various others.
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Most of the casters will wreck your shit. People like Invoker, Dark Seer, Queen of Pain, Rubick, Wisp, Shadow Demon, Shadow Shaman, Disrupter, Magnataur, Nyx Assassin and various others.
Short version: Everyone.
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Friend invite whar Stuffman??
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Oh, I'm Stuffman on Steam too. I'm the one with the Hina avatar.
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What? Who is this Hellchicken then? OMG must unfriend strangers.
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Hellchicken is that alliterator guy.
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Eeewwww. Do not want.
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Eeewwww. Do not want.
:<
I was only sending so I could coordinate with other people on DOTA better.
Sorry for the confusion I guess?
Also I just try to add MOTK crew members to my flist as I meet-and-greet with them anyways.
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Most of the casters will wreck your shit. People like Invoker, Dark Seer, Queen of Pain, Rubick, Wisp, Shadow Demon, Shadow Shaman, Disrupter, Magnataur, Nyx Assassin and various others.
Read: Everything that can kite you with stuns or massive slows. And anything that kills your mana (Obsidian, anti-mage).
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I should really stop building dagons every chance I get. BUT I CAN'T.
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I should really stop building dagons every chance I get. BUT I CAN'T.
Why don't you try building refresher orbs on everybody. Because balls > boring Dagons.
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I'm sorry, but I don't enjoy playing with balls nearly as much as you do.
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I'm sorry, but I don't enjoy playing with balls nearly as much as you do.
How can you be a good girlfriend if you won't even polish balls?
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SLARDAR. Slardar is my man. He's fat, he goes fast, and he stuns a lot. That's pretty hard to fuck up. Is it worth it to buy more attack speed beyond Treads to bash more, or should I just try to make him as fat as I can?
Expect me to play tanks most of the time.
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buy 2 hyperstones -> proceed to perma bash someone
and an armlet
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A 5-motk public queue with Dormio(Pudge), FFmaster(Nagaboooo), Faf(Dragon Knight), Tapsa(Enigma black) and me(Jakiro).
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(http://i49.tinypic.com/8xkkz8.jpg)
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Stop buying all my goddamn wards.
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Game was good. Too bad I didn't get a chance to shine though. All I did was eat towers while they were derping mid. =(
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Guys, how do I stop hogging the courier all day?
I mean it's not like anyone else needs items, or a mobile shopping cart do they?
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Guys, how do I stop hogging the courier all day?
I mean it's not like anyone else needs items, or a mobile shopping cart do they?
Buy a second courier.
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quality dota
here at motk
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Because balls > boring Dagons.
Dagonball master race here, you are small time
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You still haven't become Faceless Void. Your opinion is invalid.
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Guys, how do I stop hogging the courier all day?
walk back to base to pick up your items 8)
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You still haven't become Faceless Void. Your opinion is invalid.
I'm working on it :ohdear:
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Guys, how do I stop hogging the courier all day?
I mean it's not like anyone else needs items, or a mobile shopping cart do they?
Generate less gold per minute and only buy the very expensive stuff like Mj?llnir.
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Generate less gold per minute and only buy the very expensive stuff like Rapiers.
FTFY
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http://www.invokergame.com/
something fun i found
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http://www.invokergame.com/
something fun i found
And so a new generation of Invokers will appear.
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(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/902107446071716261/ABF50526806A8181AFF60E39623052437C22FB62/)
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(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/PX_Timefordeath/dota3.png)
Get on my level
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ilu dota
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Invoker's balls are very fun to play with (https://dotabuff.com/matches/71056389)
i have to say. he's very intimidating but his invokelist is surprisingly easy to memorize
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The real trick is being able to instantly cast ghost walk when you're in danger
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Really Trance? Do you not remember 31 spells Invoket?
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(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/902107446071716261/ABF50526806A8181AFF60E39623052437C22FB62/)
Best thing ever.
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Invoker's balls are very fun to play with (https://dotabuff.com/matches/71056389)
i have to say. he's very intimidating but his invokelist is surprisingly easy to memorize
Why is it that even when I'm playing Tidehunter, I have 6 active items?
Also, of course his invoke list is easy to memorize when you use a maximum of 4 spells. Two of which are EMP and Cold Snap. :derp:
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Why is it that even when I'm playing Tidehunter, I have 6 active items?
Because playing Tidehunter as support with so many actives is suffering.
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Dormio has to put that Korean APM to good use.
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Also, of course his invoke list is easy to memorize when you use a maximum of 4 spells. Two of which are EMP and Cold Snap. :derp:
:V Hey I did use Deafening Blast, and Alacrity'd Helepolis a couple of times, and failed a meatball a couple of times too :derp:
Really Trance? Do you not remember 31 spells Invoket?
No not really, no
The real trick is being able to instantly cast ghost walk when you're in danger
Yeah I'm still working on that, I've only done it a couple of times though :fail:
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Invoker + Axe bottom game just now. Me as Axe. Most glorious hero ever, but I hardly got to use my ult because Alacrity everywhere and shit was falling to my axe before I even realised. D:
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Invoker + Axe bottom game just now. Me as Axe. Most glorious hero ever, but I hardly got to use my ult because Alacrity everywhere and shit was falling to my axe before I even realised. D:
Be a man! (http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-bearded-menace)
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Be a man! (http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-bearded-menace)
Seems legit. I'll play Axe tonight. And I'll follow this guide like gospel. (I always got Battle Hunger at level 1!)
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>Follow guide, get 627 EXP/min ratio
>Pudge has 22 kills, I have 6. Equal EXP/min ratio
Fuck yes guide.
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keep in mind that guide was made before Battle Hunger got massively buffed. I do spin/call/spin/max hunger myself now.
jungle to start and pop into lane from behind and make them scream in agony because battle hunger does silly damage. 2 Helix is enough to jungle/cockblock creeps imo.
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or go in the suicide lane and buy a soul ring and max it first. but really anyone with half a brain can get rid of it ::)
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or go in the suicide lane and buy a soul ring and max it first. but really anyone with half a brain can get rid of it ::)
That's why you cast it after every creep is dead. Then it's unavoidable.
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Huzzah! After a 3 day loss streak, today was finally a good day for the dotards.
(http://puu.sh/1wZ0e)
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Huzzah! After a 3 day loss streak, today was finally a good day for the dotards.
(http://puu.sh/1wZ0e)
Because that's totally the reason you posted this pick, and not say
BFURYBFURYBFURY :yukkuri:
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(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png) (http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/1/1a/Jug_ability_bladefury_10.mp3)
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(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png)(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Battle_Fury.png) (http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/1/1a/Jug_ability_bladefury_10.mp3)
That's my skeleton king build
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You have a PING OF 9000?
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So I'm kinda/sorta starting to play this. So far the game seems retardedly complex. But I'll probably get used to it.
I'm maining Nyx Assassin right now. Any tips? I'm normally going with recommended stuff build-wise for now.
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solo mid else feed
#dagonop
Basically, Nyx is a fairly simple hero to play.
You'll usually be wanting to take the solo mid so that you can get all that delicious EXP.
Remember that the only thing that scales for mana burn when you level it is the cooldown and the mana cost. In other words, it's usually not worth investing more than a single point into until later.
Learn to dodge everything with spiked carapace. It's OP.
When aiming your impale, remember that if you're not confident in your ability to properly aim the impale, you can always point and click on your target. While this may not allow you to perform some of the most imbalanced impales of your life, it will guarantee that the impale lands on the person you want to kill bar various situations.
Learn to last hit. This is important. As satisfying as it is to get kills, creeps are always the main source of income. Remember that last hitting an entire creep wave gives as much gold as a hero kill, and these spawn every 30 seconds.
Map awareness, get some. Know which lanes you can and can't gank. The easier lanes to gank tend to be those that have pushed out and give you an opportunity to wrap around the enemy heroes.
Dagon helps your burst immensely. However, if you can't farm one early, it may be advisable to skip it altogether.
Avoid common ward spots, or run through them after having cast vendetta from somewhere where you know they couldn't possibly have vision. If an enemy spots you approaching, your gank will fail and you're doing nothing but wasting time. Every failed gank sets you back quite a far way.
As for your items, bursting is all you're good for, so build around it. A sheepstick can help you immensely, as well as give you some much needed utility. It also helps your burst by virtue of giving you free time to smack your target around a little after your impale.
If you're super rich, you can buy an ethereal blade for even more burst since, on top of being another nuke in your arsenal, it'll amplify the damage of all your spells.
Build arcane boots most of the time. You fucking love mana.
As a mid hero, you'll also want to be rolling with a bottle. On top of being a nice HP/MP heal, it can help you take advantage of the all important rune control.
The recommended starting items are trash. I would personally roll with 3x gg branches + tangoes + salve for a fast bottle, or grab a stout shield if you think that you're going to be harassed a lot in lane.
The thing I don't like about Nyx is that his lane presence is incredibly weak in comparison to the other strong solo mid heroes that exist.
Unless your opponent is bad or something, you'll just be praying to survive and leech enough EXP to be useful.
There's probably a lot more to be said about Nyx, but I'm tired so whatever.
So I'm kinda/sorta starting to play this. So far the game seems retardedly complex. But I'll probably get used to it.
Also yeah, DotA has a highish learning curve just because of how many stupid mechanics are in play.
There's a really good series on youtube about learning the basics of DotA here (http://www.youtube.com/show/learndota2/videos?view=0).
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I've been told by people I've "carried" the team as Axe so I think I'm good enough now not to bog the MoTK crew down? :V We could play tonight!
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sounds good
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Huzzah! After a 3 day loss streak, today was finally a good day for the dotards.
(http://puu.sh/1wZ0e)
Hao2 follow up on an amazing win streak... WITH AN AMAZING LOSS STREAK OBVIOUSLY :V
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FUCK YEAH!
We even almost lost a bot game. So good.
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I won a few games while you guys went on to lose. :V:V:V:V Centaur so much fun. Someone started calling me his "horsey". :ohdear:
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>Win every game last night :V:V:V
Also, I got five copies of Dota2 so if someone is needy (somehow) and wanting, feel free to holler.
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All to me, duh.
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Why?
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Because I'm hoarding them for reasons unspecified.
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Because I'm hoarding them for reasons unspecified.
I'll hold onto them until I find someone who still hasn't got Dota2 or a stockpile of it, then. :V
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Holla holla :V
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Holla holla :V
I'll hold onto them until I find someone who still hasn't got Dota2 or a stockpile of it, then. :V
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Got the game finally, my favourite hero is the Undying followed by Faceless Void, I look forward to us MoTKers having fun soon!
What a clich?d intro
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Got the game finally, my favourite hero is the Undying followed by Faceless Void, I look forward to us MoTKers having fun soon!
us MoTKers having fun
fun
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1084/antifun.png)
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God, you guys are beating a dead horse with a dead cat
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Nyxnyxnyx. I got to play two games as Nyx Assassin yesterday/today and I find him incredibly fun to play. The whole comming out of stealth and dealing crazy amounts of damage sure is fun.
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https://dotabuff.com/matches/74448362
Easiest game of my life! You ever see a 10 int Centaur at level 15?
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LOL null talisman because he doesn't have mana to cast stomp/stampede
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Trading my Tidehunter squiddles for a CM ward, if anyone has one. Getting a christmas present for a close friend.
EDIT: Trade done!
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Oh man, if only I played Tide.
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>massive loss streak
Wow, went from -2 to -15.
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Still around -27. You can't beat me :V
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Our mobility was absurd this game.
https://dotabuff.com/matches/77865270
+7 suck it.
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W/L ratios are serious business in Dota.
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I'm -5 I think. Been losing a lot, but whatever :V
W/L ratios are serious business in Dota.
No shit sherlock. W/L ratios are totally the only determinant of player skill. ::)
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+18
No shit sherlock. W/L ratios are totally the only determinant of player skill. ::)
Obviously. We're missing a few stats that mattered in HoN, such as PSR, MMR, and APM.
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I would be quite interested in being able to see APM.
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>still convinced I'm awful at dota
>go to check w/l out of morbid curiosity
>+1
what
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I would be quite interested in being able to see APM.
I am curious as well to be honest. Suggest Valve? :V
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6.77 Changelog (http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.77)
Notable ones for me:
Treant overall buff
Zeus strength growth increased
Jakiro, Centaur and Drow nerfs (These are still too minor, IMO)
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Goddamnit they nerfed TA again.
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IceFrog trying desperately to make Treant relevant
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6.77 Changelog (http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.77)
Notable ones for me:
Treant overall buff
Zeus strength growth increased
Jakiro, Centaur and Drow nerfs (These are still too minor, IMO)
Isn't that Dota and not Dota2?
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Changes to Dota get ported over.
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batrider can no longer attack while using flaming lasso.
dafuq.
edit: mostly good changes imo. Spectre ult buff is nice.
and Dormio the Ta refraction nerf is good. Otherwise you can get away with spaming refraction in lane and no one can deny your last hits or dmg you at all while taking harass from psi blades.
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Drow nerf means stealth bomber strat is gone. (Visage Familiars) So it's fine. Seriously, just get a ghost scepter and she doesn't do anything.
Jakiro nerf is also fine. Ice path isn't GODLIKE at level 1 anymore, which is what needed changing.
Centaur nerf was perfect imo. Can't chain stun you, and you can actually react to his bullshit now instead of sitting there and taking it.
ROUNDABOUT SVEN NERFS by nerfing Daedalus+Crystalys, but it doesn't change how MoM+BKB Sven is still a threat.
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Drow nerf means stealth bomber strat is gone. (Visage Familiars) So it's fine. Seriously, just get a ghost scepter and she doesn't do anything.
IceFrog taking notes from SMM Drow+Visage strat.
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and Dormio the Ta refraction nerf is good. Otherwise you can get away with spaming refraction in lane and no one can deny your last hits or dmg you at all while taking harass from psi blades.
But that was the point.
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>Be Brewmaster
>Own hardcore
>Still lose because Bounty Hunter and Gyrocopter hate items and last hits and love feeding
Fuck. This. Game. :/
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Fuck. This. Game. :/
doto is very hard man... knowing those feels...
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Do not question our scuba qualifications. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owEWls4ZngA)
Well, shit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G25agpnM5xQ)
Witch Doctor AFK hero. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvILW7KpMmk)
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Oh fuck I love Puck. Teleport in enemy group, lay down Silence and Coil, activate Blade Armour and Vanish when you get hurt too much. Never die. Neverrr. Only thing that's meh is durability but shit son Puck's awesome. :D
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Puck.
activate Blade Armour
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
It's cool their Windrunner would panic and attack me, then die to Blade Armour. :D
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>Random into Lina
>Allied team picks nothing but melee Carries
>Enemy picks Axe
Well, there's no way this can go we--
>End game with 701 EXP/min
>Refresher Orb, Aghanim, Bloodstone
>Dragon Slaves and Ragnablades everywhere
DOTA really IS more fun when you play well.
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And when your teammates don't yell at you :qq:
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>Random into Lina
>Allied team picks nothing but melee Carries
>Enemy picks Axe
Well, there's no way this can go we--
>End game with 701 EXP/min
>Refresher Orb, Aghanim, Bloodstone
>Dragon Slaves and Ragnablades everywhere
DOTA really IS more fun when you play well.
That's not a Desolator/Rapier.
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That's not a Desolator/Rapier.
Who needs either of those when you throw out 2500 damage on Ults alone?
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Patchlog:
Doom now has too much armor! (+1)
HOLY MOLY.
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It's cool their Windrunner would panic and attack me, then die to Blade Armour. :D
the real question is why would you get blademail on puck
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Simple text guide to Rubick
By a guy who plays way too much Rubick
(Don't worry I know what I'm doing)
"Who's the ultimate magus? That's right. I am."
warning: this guide assumes you have a basic knowledge of DotA
warning: written while listening to the Jojo OP2 on loop. This guide may contain FABULOUS.
why do I want to play Rubick
+delicious irony by killing people with their own spells
+versatility, both in items and spell stealing
+if the enemy team has a role besides carry, you can pretty much approximate it
+rubick enjoys one of the best cast animations in the game (0.1s), which includes stolen spells
+good push/counterpush by default
+decent nukedown
+telekinesis is gdlk
+enemy team has like 1092715019284 nukes, must make all allies resist magic
+dendi
+some images are just sorta hilarious
why do I not want to play Rubick
-oh god where is my mobility (get a force staff asap)
-I am a dumbass and can't steal spells
-the enemy has doom (unless you're a badass and give no fucks)
-my positioning is shitty
-I think holding onto spells for the entire duration is a good idea (ps it's not)
-oh god I am fragile please don't hurt me
-I can't press buttons (because you will have at least three active items, trust me)
-until I steal a spell I'm effectively a hero without an ult
-I have no clue what the heroes in this game do
-I can't stagger disables for shit
Rubick is basically whatever the fuck you need him to be. He transitions well from any lane into a useful, mostly item independant caster with a great disable, good nuke, and a useful aura that's like a free 2/3 of a Hood of Defiance on everyone. Some of the most impressive plays in the game can be pulled off by Rubick and Rubick alone.
First, mechanics.
Movement Speed 290
Turn Rate 0.5
Sight Range 1800/800
Attack Range 600
Missile Speed 1125
Attack Duration 0.4+0.77
Cast Duration 0.1+1.17
Base Attack Time 1.7
Below average movespeed, okay turn rate (this will be the only reason you are ever too slow to cast something; Rubick is enough of a badass that only casting things behind him is a problem), good range, okay missile speed, decent attack animation, fucking great cast duration so long as you cancel the after portion, and okay base attack time. Abuse the cast duration. Love it. Relish it. Rubick casts spells better than anyone else in the game except for Wisp, which means you cast spells better than who you stole it from. Except wisp.
Let's break down his stats.
STR: 19+1.5 per level
AGI: 14+1.6 per level
INT: 27+2.4 per level
Average strength, below average agility, good base intelligence with a subpar growth. Which means mediocre HP, low armor and attack speed (not particularly important though it can mean the difference early game), and good initial mana but bad mana in comparison later on. What's this mean? Build mobility. If they never catch you, they can't exploit your bad armor and HP. Mobility items, specifically force staff and blink dagger, also work well with his skillset. You won't ever really be tanking or carrying (unless very specific spells are stolen), but don't worry about it. You do everything else.
Skill time. First up is Telekinesis. Enemy unit within 550/575/600/625 range is lifted for 1.5/1.75/2/2.25s, then dropped down in a direction of your choice which then stuns all the enemies within a 325 radius of landing for 1/1.25/1.5/1.75s. Mana cost of 120, cooldown of 18. Really, really fucking good. Because of how it works visually, Telekinesis pretty much guarrantees your team will focus down someone for those seconds, and if any other heroes are stupid enough to start channeling then they'll get interrupted by the landing. Also gives you all the time in the world to steal from your target. It's a little short in comparison to other single target stuns, but the nigh-instant cast time and the AoE stun that follows make it great.
Next is Fade Bolt. Rubick's go to nuke, push, and counterpush tool, along with a bit of anti-carry too. 800 range, 440 bounce range, and 70/140/210/280-4% per bounce damage, along with a 14/20/26/32 (half for creeps) damage reduction for ten seconds. At 150 mana cost and 16/14/12/10 cooldown, this thing is meant to be spammed. You can pretty safely throw this thing out whenever you want because of how long it is, and if there's a push going on you'll pretty much cut it down due to the damage reduction. It also bounces as long as there's a valid target to bounce to, which means some heroes get really fucking sad when Rubick pops in. (Hi Brood/Prophet) Good nuke in general, if a little below average in damage.
Null Field is a passive that gives all allied heroes 5%/10%/15%/20% magic resistance. This...this is good. Especially once you start stealing spells, the enemy really will be casting worse than you. Versus big nukers like Leshrac and Queen of Pain, this gives you the edge.
And now the nougat center, the filet mignon, the center of the Tootsie Pop: Spell Steal. Oh god, is this thing fun. First off, 1000 range. This thing is fucking long. If you can see someone, you can probably steal from them and be pretty much safe. Secondly, 3/4/5 minute duration. This lets you hold onto good spells for a long while, but this is a bad idea. I'll explain later. Finally, 25 mana cost. You can use it whenever the flying fuck you want.
Let's break down what makes Spell Steal really, really good:
+You copy the last spell word for word, down to every last aspect. If it's a really good spell that's just on a hero that can't support spamming it, well guess what. You're an int hero. You can spam it. Examples include Sven Storm Bolt, CK Chaos Bolt, Vengeful Spirit Magic Missile, and Earthshaker Fissure.
+However, whatever animation the enemy has is replaced with your own, absurdly good 0.1s animation. This means instant Fissures, instant Split Earths, instant Guardian Angels, instant Black Holes, instant Entangles; you literally cast spells better than whoever you stole it from. And because you have Telekinesis, it's piss easy to land any sort of AoE spell.
+If you steal something you'd normally save if you were playing that hero, like Tombstone or Black Hole or whatever, don't save it as Rubick. Use it for whatever miniscule reason you need at the moment and then swap out. You can afford to use a really good spell for the smallest of kills or benefits and get away with it because you have at the very least another 10 spells to choose from in the game. Don't think of Rubick as a hero that has can steal one spell from the enemy team, that's a waste of potential; think of him as someone who has access to every single spell on the enemy team.
+you can and will confuse enemy heroes by using their own spells against them; 90% of Pudges will be absolutely confused when hooked, for example, and often times enemies will just fall into complacency and not react to their own spells.
Quality example here, I'm the Rubick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owEWls4ZngA
Naga pops Song to get away, and it's a good song. It stops my gank and saves all her allies. But, I still have my Haste rune on. I run up to her, steal song, and cast it right back. If I wanted, I could have saved Song because song is a really good and versatile ult. But I pop it immediately to make sure we get something out of this gank, which we do: we trade CM for shredder and force Leshrac to burn the mana he just got back from bottling, which forces him back to fountain. And what do I do afterwards? Swap out a spell at the first opportunity, because holding on to Song until it cooldowns is three minutes worth of down time, which is very nearly 9 potential spell casts.
now, why Spell Steal is not so cool:
-You need to be familiar with everyone in the game, and how their spells work and what order they generally cast in. Stealing Hook may sound great, but any Pudge worth his salt will toggle Rot immediately afterwards and cockblock you out of it.
-Stealing from the most dangerous hero on the enemy team does not always guarrantee that you will get a dangerous spell
-There's a bit of delay before the spell actually reaches you; nothing you can do about this.
-If you have Legacy keys on, oh god you have to memorize hotkeys for every damn spell in the game.
-Sometimes enemy heroes have shitty spells when alone, or have spells that don't particularly work well on Rubick. Agi carries are generally bad to steal from except for things like Antimage (blink is godlike), though conversely a lot of them have spells that are just absurdly good when put on an INT hero with a positioning spell. (Drow Silence comes to mind)
alright, enough rambling. Let's talk about items
-What do I start with?
--I like 3 branch, 1 clarity, 1 tango myself. Fast bottle is fast. If you're not so comfy with HAVING NO HP, two gloves, 1 branch, 1 tango, 1 salve, 1 clarity is good. if you get random gold, uh...well, buy courier or wards, I guess.
-What Boots do I get?
--Arcanes or Phase. I like Arcane because I spam more than I chase or run, but Phase is pretty good for getting close enough for Telekinesis. Upgrade to Travels lategame as required, like many heroes. Some people like dismantling their Arcanes for a Bloodstone, but I'm not fond of that because if I can ever afford a Bloodstone I can just buy the soul booster raw.
-What's my core item?
--OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE GET FORCE STAFF. After a bottle and a bracer, bracer optional. As a mid hero, Rubick generally gets bottle. Even if you end up on a side lane, try to get a bottle. Get a bracer if you're having a rough time, and work towards a force staff. Wand with your branches is optional, as I often times don't need it. What's forcestaff do for rubick? The push is really versatile. Push towards enemies for a quick steal+telekinesis, run away, lots of stuff. And the stats on it give you mana and longer survivability, which is great on Rubick.
--Some people like getting blink dagger first, and since it's around the same price I can't say much. Buying a multi-part item like Forcestaff is safer though, and blink dagger does not do you jack shit when you're chain stunned. If there's any sort of gap in it, a force staff can and will get you out.
--example of shit you can pull off only with force staff and blink dagger: dive into four enemies like an idiot and survive, then survive the song immediately afterwards without getting hurt. ie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G25agpnM5xQ (nearly get caught out twice and not a single fucking scratch on me)
-What next?
--Rubick is a cool guy, doesn't need items and isn't afraid of anything. Force staff will let you do pretty much anything. Personally, I get Blink Dagger, turn my bracer into Drums, and work towards a Bloodstone.
--You'll notice your item slots are getting pretty full; this is the main reason you get a Wand, just to compress all those branches
--Some people who won't be mentioned like building Heart and BKB on Rubick; I can't discount this.
--Is the enemy team nuking down our shit? Get a Pipe. Works well with your aura. Does our team not have a Mek? get it. Do I need to be MORE MOBILE? Get a Eul's. The tornado is nice sometimes, and tornado->blink dagger will probably get you out of most situations.
okay items done. now for the fun part: specific vs hero strategies, and more specifically: stealing from them. Rubick is the best thief. Bolded are heroes with big spells you'll probably want.
I sorta kinda use a somewhat consistant terminology here:
filler steals: when nothing is really happening and you're just fishing for spells, these aren't bad to get, and will probably be gotten because these are spells used a lot during inaction.
after fight steals: when team fights are over, these are the most common steals. Good after-fight steals are ones you can use to start new fights.
fish steals: randomly throwing out spell steal before a fight actually happens because long ass range on spell steal
RADIANT STRENGTH HEROES:
what you'll find with these guys is that they all pretty much have good spells to steal, except wisp. Most tend to be of the disable variety more than the nuke variety. Rubick also benefits from more mana than these guys, so spam to your heart's content.
-Earthshaker: Steal fissure if you can, but generally avoid stealing from him. Enchant Totem is a braindead way of cockblocking rubick from anything decent, unless you're fast enough to steal before the animation finishes. Echo Slam, if you can steal it, is just fun. Keep in mind you don't get Aftershock off any steals.
-Sven: You will get War Cry a lot. And I mean a lot. This isn't a bad thing with the recent buffs. If you can pickup Storm Bolt, that's freaking godlike. Throw it at an enemy as they come down from telekinesis, and you turn it into a team wide CC. Occasionally and hilariously you will pickup God's Strength; pop it ASAP and swap for something else ASAP, it won't disappear until the duration is over. I will and have gotten triples off a stolen God's Strength Rubick.
-Tiny: Anything is good. You'll either get Toss or Avalanche, and mercifully Avalanche is more common. Throw it out after telekinesis for easy peasy chain stuns.
-Kunkka: Most common is torrent, followed by Boat, then X-marks solely because many Kunkkas do not use that often. Any of them work; torrent works especially well with Telekinesis and completely removes the aiming portion, turning it into a braindead 3s total disable followed by a 4s slow. Boat is fun to steal, but finnicky. Just throw it out during a fight and benefit from the damage reduction booze, and swap out for something else.
-Beastmaster: Again, anything is good. Axes is a great nuke and lets you ghetto ancient farm for however long you keep it. Animals are as useful on you as they are on Beastmaster, if not more so because your disable is a lot spammier and boar means you can land it more. And Roar is just great in general.
-Clockwerk: Iffy. Rocket Flare is a good filler steal, but swap it out for something more useful when applicable. Hookshot, Cogs, and Shrapnel all require you to be too close for comfort, but it's pretty funny counter stealing shrapnel and just standing in spot next to Clockwerk.
-Dragon Knight: You will get fire breath most. This is a good thing; breath+bolt=instant creep wipe. Generic nuke, not a bad steal at all. Dragon Tail is a good followup to telekinesis. And Dragon Mode is actually sorta funny on Rubick; green for push, red for ghetto ancient farming, blue for slows. It doesn't make you any tankier though, so be careful.
-Omniknight: Absolutely anything is useful. Your animation is so much better than Omni's that it's great. Purification can be used willnilly as a nuke if wanted because you can swap out. Repel is mind dead throw-on-carry-swap-spell. And Guardian Angel makes for very strange, phys-immune vs phys-immune fights that you WILL come out on top on because of Null Field.
-Huskar: Lifebreak or Inner Vitality. Inner Vitality is an occasionally funny filler steal, but swap out asap. Lifebreak is most common as a desperation before death steal; spite whoever you can with it or go ganking with it if you survive. Break->Telekinesis for easy peasy disable chains. You also take less damage from it than Huskar because of Null Field, so that's something to keep in mind.
-Alchemist: All of it's useful, again. If you steal concoction, feel free to hold on to it for a while; it works great with Telekinesis. Acid SPray is a use once, swap out spell that you'll probably get during team fights or tower pushes. And Rage is just hilarious; as long as you keep it, Rubick has infinite mana. It's pretty great, but swap it out soon-ish.
-Brewmaster: One of the most lucrative to steal from, and not a bad idea to be honest. Grabbing Thunder Clap or haze is never a bad thing. However, where the real bacon is lies within Primal Split; you can only ever get this after it ends. This means you have to save your steal until after his ult and stalk him until then, or in the case of smart Brewmasters run away from then chase in the middle of Split. If you do manage to steal it, keep in mind the Earth spirit now gives your Null Field.
-Treant: Great steals all around, and above all easy steals because of his godawful animation. Leech seed is better on you because of animation, again. Living Armor may or may not save the ass of one of your heroes or towers, but swap it out soon-ish. And Nature's Guise turns you into Rubick, stalker of trees; unless they already have detection, they're not gonna get it because you can just swap it out, so enjoy and exploit the invisible spell casting hijinx. Finally, Treant's ult is amazing to steal and super easy to steal because of his super slow animation; just spell steal as soon as you see the lord of the ring's tree decal and cast it right back to turn the teamfight back into neutral, if not slightly in your favor.
-Wisp: Because all his spells tend to work on with tether, generally a bad steal. Spirits is okay as a filler steal, but there's better. Overcharge is useless without tether, and Relocate is nearly as useless except for instant ganking. You will almost never get Relocate either; to be honest, you won't face Wisp a whole lot as Rubick. Or at all.
-Centaur: Ahahahaha. This is hard. You get double edge, stomp, or stampede. You'd think Stampede would be great, but it's extremely hard to synchronize with your team; at the very least it will counter stun/slow the enemy team (depending on patch). Double Edge is bad because it's melee, but Stomp is good because you can use it to follow up Telekinesis. Keep in mind that you'll probably see stampede from a mile away, so it's not a particularly hard steal; just difficult to utilize unless you're like me and constantly 5man queue.
-Timbersaw: BEYBLADE BATTLES. You will most commonly pick up whirling death or Chakram, and Chakram is a fun spell to steal because you don't autoattack much anyway. Treechain is a good afterfight steal that pretty much functions as a blink dagger/forcestaff, and if you for some reason pick it up midfight then you can use it to get better positioning. But don't use it as a nuke, Rubick isn't tanky enough for that. Chakram is great because you can use it for a lot longer than shredder can, and you have a hard disable to use it with. Shredder is an example of a hero that may get confused by spell steal; two chakrams are hard to keep track of, especially when one isn't yours.
DIRE STRENGTH HEROES:
More polarizing, less reliable in general than Radiant STR. However, some of the biggest, funnest, and easiest steals are here. Conversely, two heroes that will wreck your shit and a bunch of useless steals are also present.
-Axe: Battle Hunger is one of the best filler steals in the game, and you have no reason not to spam it besides mana concerns (which you fair better in compared to Axe). Call is...situational. Don't use it like Axe does, not unless there's little to no threat to you; use it for the bonus armor if you need to run. During a solo gank, using it as a followup to telekinesis is also fine. You will almost never get Culling Blade, but just use it as Axe uses it. Positioning is hard though.
-Pudge: Aaaah. Get used to not stealing from Pudge or stealing Rot. But on the occassion you do get Dismember or Hook, use them. Hook means an easy telekinesis follow up, dismember is an easy telekinesis followup.
-Sand King: Interesting steals. Burrowstrike on average will be used more as a mobility tool than Sand King's usage, but it is still a stun and should be treated as such. Sandstorm is rare to get on a random fish steal but generally easy to get since he'll use it to deny you burrowstrike; useful if you already have your forcestaff/blink dagger. And don't expect to get Epicenter beyond early game, but use it whenever you get it just as added damage.
-Slardar: Mercifully, Crush is fairly common and as always a good followup to Telekinesis. Sprint is okay, but not that great because your base move speed will be pretty low. Amp damage is great and serves as something you can really just throw out at 0.1s speed, which means even more spam than Slardar.
-Tidehunter: Mother of god. This is it. This it the big one. The REAL steal. And yet so far away. Get used to anchor smash and gush, which really aren't bad spells to steal. If you want Ravage, and you fucking will, stay the fuck away from the rest of your team and force/blink right in as he uses it. Even bad Tides know to use anchor smash right after ravage. If you picked up a BKB, then it's even easier.
-Skeleton King: Steal from him whenever you want. You will always get his stun. And that stun is a good one.
-Lifestealer: What's interesting is that you can steal Rage because Spell Steal goes through magic immune. Being magic immune as Rubick is nice. Open Wounds is also good, because nothing spells 'HEY GUYS KILL THIS GUY' like a floating, bleeding enemy hero. Infest is exceedingly rare, but hilarious. Especially when Rubick says 'Whoops, I hope no one saw that'. But I don't really have anything to say about it as a steal, it really doesn't happen often.
-Night Stalker: Oh god this guy. This guy, if played well, won't even give you the chance. Silences wreck Rubick, which is why Force Staff is needed. Void is a good steal, as is silence. If you steal the Ult, weep and cry. (And swap it out, please)
-Doom: DOOM. Doom will kill you, because it stops items too. But if he dooms someone else, steal that shit and throw it out. Scorched Earth is a bad steal, but decent filler. Level Death is also good, but it forces you to check levels and may not be worth the effort. Devour just means you can farm for days. Keep in mind you can steal any spells he uses from creeps as well, which is occasionally useful when you get something like shockwave or stomp/clap.
-Spirit Breaker: Charge or Netherstrike. Both are good. You copy his level of Greater Bash for Netherstrike, mind, so it becomes a good disable in your hands even if it doesn't do much damage. A charging Rubick gives you another stun and you have the option of stopping the Charge and going straight to Telekinesis, unlike SB who has to go in or go home.
-Lycan: Bad steals in general. Wolves will be most common and aren't worth the micro effort, so just send them after something and forget. Howl will be useful, but use it and swap out. If you can get his ult, go for it, but again swap it out. It's not worth holding on to, even if it is absurd mobility. Note you're still ranged while ulted; behold Rubick wolf snot.
-Chaos Knight: Rift is good positioning and serves as a telekinesis follow up or setup. Chaos Bolt too. You'll most likely get the former more; most CK's prefer to stun into rift. If you get Phantasm, pop it and send the illusions at someone, then steal something else.
-Undying: Lots of interesting spells here. You have a little more mana than Undying, but your animation is leagues better. Decay is spam bait and should be used at every opportunity; nothing can really dodge 0.1s cast time. Soul Rip should be used as a counter to tombstone and in fact can be used to nuke the Tombstone down. Tombstone should be dropped ASAP since you will most likely get it during a teamfight; two tombstones makes the fight really awkward, and occasionalyl in your favor. If you get his ult, again use it then swap out ASAP, but don't get yourself killed trying to make use of the damage amp proximity.
-Magnus: Shockwave is a generic nuke and is actually about as long as Fadebolt, so use both to clear waves and nuke things from a safe distance. Skewer should be avoided unless you're fast with a blink dagger, and even then you're putting yourself really close to enemies. You could possible blink behind, Telekinesis someone, then time the skewer so that the lifted hero lands as your skewer ends thus resulting in a team stun, but even that's really unsafe. Empower is good filler and should just be thrown on your carries and forgotten. If you pick up reverse polarity, well, make use of those mobility items.
Radiant Agi
Weird steals, and a lot of situational ones. Good fish steals as well, as well as some fun ones. Not a real priority though.
-Antimage: You get blink or you get void. Because of how obvious mana void is, you'll only ever steal that on purpose. Blink is amazing on Rubick and pretty much saves you the money to get Blink Dagger, if not more because you can use it when hurt.
-Drow: Silence. You always get silence, which isn't bad. Actually, I'm not sure if you can steal Trueshot Aura toggle now. Possible. But simply telekinesis into silence for easy chain disables. Your cast time really helps with it.
-Juggernaut: Spin and ward are most common. You have to work for Omnislash, which will be less effective on you because your autoattack isn't as good, but it's still a decent nuke. Ward is great to just plop down and forget about, and spin has some odd usages much like Naix's Rage.
-Mirana: All four of her spells are active, but unlike lots of heroes like this Mirana has to ration her spells, so it's pretty easy to get what you want. If you and Mirana are throwing nukes out as pokes, it's easy to pick up arrow as soon as she uses it. Starfall is similarly obvious to grab. Leap is a little hard to get, but conversely you won't really need it. Moonlight shadow is...odd. If you do grab it, free better-than-smoke, but swap it out after you use it once. It's not a very common steal though because it does make her invisible, though.
-Morphling: Woo. Good steals in general. Waveform is another nuke+movement spell that works really well with Rubick for both running and getting closer. Adaptive strike is just something you can throw out every time it's off cooldown for whatever benefit it gives; it's better than nothing. Morph...now Morph is what you want. Morph everything to STR and buy a Mekansm to counter the armor loss, then steal adaptive strike for best nukes. THis gives you more HP in general than anyone else in the game forever, and it's not like you needed that Agi. Replicate is good for baits because they will generally have no clue if you manage to steal it; another benefit of Rubick being confusing with steals. Keep in mind that your Null Field will go a long way in stopping Morph Shotguns; level it early if needed.
-Phantom Lancer: A great nuke or an escape mechanism. The doppelwalk is harder to steal but won't be needed as much; spirit lance is a great nuke and should be grabbed often just for more damage.
-Vengeful Spirit: What you want is Magic Missile, though you will get Scream of Terror more often than not. You have the mana to spam scream willynilly though, so feel free to abuse it so long as you have it; it certainly won't hurt. Once you get Missile, chain it properly with Telekinesis for some silly single target lockdown. If you steal Swap, abuse the fact that you can get blink dagger and Venge can't for some brain dead pickoffs.
-Riki: Bad steals to be honest. Smokescreen requires you to be too close, and Blink Strike brings you too close to really be of use. Which works out, because stealing from Riki is sort of a pain anyways.
-Sniper: Ahahaha. Wanna see my boomstick? You'll get Shrapnel, which is a decent filler steal, or Assassinate, which is just hilarious on a hero with the mana to harass with it.
-Templar Assassin: An example of a dangerous hero not giving very dangerous steals. Refraction may save your ass occasionally, but the bonus damage is sort of wasted on you; same with Meld. You don't want them to know where you are as Rubick. Psionic Trap is great if you can get it and a fairly common fish steal though. Trap->Telekinesis->Set off trap is legit.
-Luna: Lasers or SUPER LASERS. Not to mention her Ult is absurdly obvious. Grabbing either is great, and you can afford to waste an Ult on one guy. Not a lot can survive a full Eclipse+Fade Bolt in mid game.
-Bounty Hunter: This is pure irony here. If you grab Track, which is common on stupid Bounty Hunters who don't go invis immediately after a Track, you literally become a counter to a hero via his own spell. Abuse Track and get as much gold out of it as possible, especially out of Bounty himself. He's a sitting duck with Track on him. Shuriken is a decent nuke and another possible stun, which is sometimes useful when someone thinks they can just TP away from you after your Telekinesis, and Shadow Walk (while rare) is an escape/positioning mechanism. Great steals in general from him. One of the few heroes I would suggest holding on to a steal for, unless you need something else.Track is really just too good.
-Ursa: Avoid stealing from him unless you want epic max attack speed hijinx. Earthshock is okay, but you won't get it often unless you're looking for it, and if you are that's effort probably better spent on other heroes. Overpower is useless but hilarious, and Enrage won't do much on you because you're squishy but use it anyway because there's no point putting it to waste.
-Gyrocopter: Homing Rocket is the most common and most useful; tele into Rocket for chain stuns, like every other stun. (can you tell why Telekinesis is so good on Rubick?) Flak Cannon is somewhat useless but does turn you into a green spraying pushing machine, which is funny. Rocket Barrage needs you to be too close to really do anything, but it's damage. And works with Telekinesis. Call Down would be great if Gyro couldn't use it from so far away; it's generally impossible to grab becuase most Gyros will turn on barrage or flak immediately after.
-Lone Druid: Um, if you grab Bear, then go for it. The Bear won't have any items though, but you can use it more suicidally since you don't keep it. Rabid and Battle Cry don't do much for you at all. True Form is...well, it makes you tankier but slower, which isn't always a good thing. Try to avoid stealing from Lone Druid unless you can grab a Bear, and even then try not.
-Naga Siren: Great steals. Mirror Image will allow you to avoid some disables, but it's sorta meh otherwise. Good thing its cooldown is ridiculous; you won't really get this unless you're looking for it. Riptide does require you to be close, but it really tears things up and is downright scary on someone with a good chunk of mana. Entangle is amazing and lets you either extend a Telekinesis disable, setup a Telekinesis, or simultaneous disable with Telekinesis becaue of how fast/long it is. And Song is hilarious. You will most often grab Song when a Naga is using it to escape; simply blink/force staff towards her and steal ASAP for it, then use it to counter the run away. The video example above is how I turned a wasted gank into at least something beneficial for us.
DIRE AGI:
Pretty bad steals in general, but with the occasional hilarious and or decent one.
-Bloodseeker: Silence or Rupture, both of which aren't bad at all to use. If he ruptures you, just rupture him back for extreme awkwardness. Because of its short cooldown, I won't hold it against you for holding on to Rupture.
-Shadowfied: The various Razes or Requiem of Souls. The razes are decent filler/fish steals. I've never personally picked up Requiem, and I don't think it's worth it. Note that you copy the number of souls he has as well, but you don't get the bonus damage. Also not sure if you do the post-mortem mini-requiem if you die with it stolen.
-Razor: Firstly, note you will trigger Unstable Current if you steal from him. Midfight, this can mean death. Plasma Field is really good because it encourages the sort of ranges that Rubick works best at, ie roughly 800 (fade bolt range and 5 off from Plasma Field max range). Static Link, if you steal it for whatever reason, works well with Telekinesis for shutting down a carry. If you grab Eye of the Storm, turn it on and forget. It won't do anything but help you, but it's not particularly worth the effort of putting it to full potential. That sort of range is too close for you.
-Venomancer: Wards are a good fish steal, and Gale is braindead to use in combination with telekinesis. You'll most often grab Nova midfight, and most Veno's don't think to use ward immediately after; pop it off when appropriate. You may also get it if he decides to spite you when you gank Veno solo.
-Void: Chronosphere or Time Walk, both great on Rubick. Time Walk just lets you move around like no one's business; Chronosphere is a great ult but keep in mind Void is not effected by it regardless of who casted it.
-Phantom Assassin: Bad steals. The attack speed bonus on blink strike is wasted on you and isn't particularly good because it really bring you too close for comfort; dagger is a good fish steal for standoffs between two teams right before team fights, and should be spammed every time it's off cooldown until you steal something else. But generally avoid stealing from PA.
-Viper: Woo, Viper Strike only. Great slow and follow up to Telekinesis, does great damage, all around awesome. Steal from Viper whenever you get the chance unless there's something more lucrative around.
-Clinkz: Generally not worth it. Most Clinkz will exit their invis with either the aspd steroid or an orchid; by the time you can react, he'll either have silenced you or have Strafe cast. If for some reason you ever get Death Pact, make good use of it. It's definitely a major boon when you eat the strong creeps.
-Broodmother: Web...web isn't really very useful because they disappear when you swap out. Spawn SPiderlings is really funny and also useful as a nuke, and you can transition even better to a push after winning a fight or ganking if you have it. Insatiable Hunger is...not very useful, but about as funny as God's Strength.
-Weaver: You generally won't get the chance to steal from Weaver, since Linken's is core and shukuchi is just obnoxious. However, Shukuchi is particularly good on you if obtained for all the aformentioned mobility and escape reasons. Swarm isn't bad, but should be thrown out and swapped out. If for some bizarre reason he doesn't pop Shukuchi right after Lapse and you steal Lapse, abuse it to regain all your mana back after a spam session.
-Spectre: Dagger or Haunt. Dagger has limited mobility usages and isn't nearly as good as most of the other movement skills; it's a decent fish steal but nothing more, don't count on it to do you any real good. Haunt is hilarious but questionably useful; it may allow you to get into places they won't expect, but you should really be able to do that with force staff and blink dagger anyway. The momentary confusion it will cause is notable, though.
-Meepo: Poof is useless except as a fish steal for creep wiping or ghetto jungling. Net is good and is a brain dead followup to Telekinesis, and your cast animation is leagues better with it too. BUt avoid stealing from Meepo if you can help it.
-Slark: Pounce, Pact, or Shadowdance. Pounce into Telekinesis is a longass lockdown, and it's a mobility spell to boot, but it is awkward to aim somewhat with how Rubick plays as a sideline caster. Pact is situational at best and its hard to switch into the 'use to counter disable' mentality with it instantly upon stealing, so generally not worth it. Shadowdance makes you ready to fight immediately after a fight is over, so if you can grab it go ahead. Rubick with infinite sustain is scary, but your mana remains an issue.
um. if you don't want to lane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOMPWeXLZYI
will update with more.
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-Sven:
... Occasionally and hilariously you will pickup God's Strength; pop it ASAP and swap for something else ASAP, it won't disappear until the duration is over. I will and have gotten triples off a stolen God's Strength Rubick.
(http://i.imgur.com/wqx6n.png) (http://imgur.com/wqx6n)
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reminds me that I need to draw that Rubick 'Ult on Ult' series.
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um. if you don't want to lane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOMPWeXLZYI
Because Amra is a quality Rubick, he even steals guides that I stole shamelessly liberated.
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What happens if 5 v 5 all Rubick try to steal each other's spells. Logically the first will steal a skill rubick might have used (telekinesis or fade bolt) but would all the other Rubicks get Spell Steal? Would you be able to steal 2 spells or simply does not work?
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Rubick cannot steal spells from Rubick, this is hardcoded.
edit: thanks for cockblocking, I was gonna make a pretty good joke about vs Rubick in the Radiant INT section.
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new update
BASTION ANNOUNCER
also greevils and 6.77 parity but who cares about that
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I care about centaur nerfs.
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I care about centaur nerfs.
and drow nerf :3
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and drow nerf :3
Faf is going to be unhappy :V
The changes are so far pretty fine I guess. As long as they don't nerf ravage, I am cool.
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Faf is going to be unhappy :V
The changes are so far pretty fine I guess. As long as they don't nerf ravage, I am cool.
the speed changes already hella buffed force staff, so I'm pretty sure Tide is fine where he is.
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LUCY
that is all
0.56 base armor 2 good now
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In the new greevil mode, your greevil is stronger depending on how many essences you spent on it. Matching up with people who just hatched their egg without any essences would mean a significant difference in power. Hence, finding friends who have established greevils is a near must in this mode.
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In the new greevil mode, your greevil is stronger depending on how many essences you spent on it. Matching up with people who just hatched their egg without any essences would mean a significant difference in power. Hence, finding friends who have established greevils is a near must in this mode.
Also, try to have someone with a greevil who has Black Hole. It's really silly how they have have it with a 40sec cooldown.
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Also, try to have someone with a greevil who has Black Hole. It's really silly how they have have it with a 40sec cooldown.
Greevil Rot is disgustingly powerful as well.
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Greevil Rot is disgustingly powerful as well.
I really like the skills that my greevil has. Greevil Fury/Greevil Rot/Greevil Slam. What makes it even more great is that the magic immunity from Greevil Fury makes it so that i don't take any damage from using Greevil Rot. So i can just spin on people and finish them with Greevil Slam.
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I really like the skills that my greevil has. Greevil Fury/Greevil Rot/Greevil Slam. What makes it even more great is that the magic immunity from Greevil Fury makes it so that i don't take any damage from using Greevil Rot. So i can just spin on people and finish them with Greevil Slam.
Greevil Rot/Degreevilfy/Lagreeviluna Blade here, I guess it works for some random-ass sniping :V
Still envious of those with Greevil Fury -_-''
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I got Greevil Phantom Strike, Greevil Fury, and Greevil Nova.
As you can imagine, if there is someone with a black hole, I do massive amounts of Dot damage. I'm also prime for stealing greevils.
... If anyone is opening christmas chests, give me Pudge Britches!
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I'll be giving away a selection of rares (depending on how many I get) on Christmas... :V
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Played some normal games today. Ended up 2 games in a row playing with people on my team who wanted to boss everyone around by insulting them. Fun times.
A bit tired of greeviling, I keep dropping essences and battle bonuses even when I win.
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Played some normal games today. Ended up 2 games in a row playing with people on my team who wanted to boss everyone around by insulting them. Fun times.
A bit tired of greeviling, I keep dropping essences and battle bonuses even when I win.
you aren't the only one :v
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This newbie has recently fallen in love with the Jaggernaut, the amazing Blade Fury which grants immediate Magic Immune has niche uses which blows one mind, the Healing Ward which turns the tides in teamfights and Omnislash which is pretty much the best ulti ever.
And Blade Dance, dat Blade Dance.
Anyway, I will get to the point, I wish to buy any items concerned with Mr. Jagger, will do in TF2 keys and metals.
Please don't scam me. ; ;
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Anyway, I will get to the point, I wish to buy any items concerned with Mr. Jagger, will do in TF2 keys and metals.
I'm sure you could pick up a few deals. Start here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/tag/mick%20jagger/products).
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Anyway, I will get to the point, I wish to buy any items concerned with Mr. Jagger, will do in TF2 keys and metals.
Your best place to look is trading sites like Dota2Trade and tf2outpost, but be prepared for lowballers who try to get the best deal for themselves.
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This newbie has recently fallen in love with the Jaggernaut, the amazing Blade Fury which grants immediate Magic Immune has niche uses which blows one mind, the Healing Ward which turns the tides in teamfights and Omnislash which is pretty much the best ulti ever.
And Blade Dance, dat Blade Dance.
Anyway, I will get to the point, I wish to buy any items concerned with Mr. Jagger, will do in TF2 keys and metals.
Please don't scam me. ; ;
Come find me for a Mask of the Ivory Isles. (free of charge!)
Also, I got Storm Spirit Mega-Kill Announcer. :D
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Come find me for a Mask of the Ivory Isles. (free of charge!)
Also, I got Storm Spirit Mega-Kill Announcer. :D
Thanks Bardiche! But I realized I don't seem to have added you to my friend list yet! :ohdear: Will you please kindly shoot me a request? (I think I've sent one, but not sure if it's the right person.)
I'm sure you could pick up a few deals. Start here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/tag/mick%20jagger/products).
Sometimes I wonder if it's Tewi that's behind the keyboard. Since you know, having musical tastes of 2000 years old and all. :V
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Why is last hitting so hard, I have to buy quelling blade on like every hero :fail:
Maybe I really should just learn support so I can contribute without farm.
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I've added you!
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Why is last hitting so hard, I have to buy quelling blade on like every hero :fail:
Maybe I really should just learn support so I can contribute without farm.
if you can last hit with zues, you can last hit with anyone
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This newbie has recently fallen in love with the Jaggernaut, the amazing Blade FuryBattlefury
ftfy
(http://puu.sh/1E1La)
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Why is last hitting so hard, I have to buy quelling blade on like every hero :fail:
Maybe I really should just learn support so I can contribute without farm.
Supports without gold are the easiest free gold :V
This is why pulling is essential, because that's how they get gold. And ganking.
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Supports without gold are the easiest free gold :V
This is why pulling is essential, because that's how they get gold. And ganking.
Look, I just want to win without any skill or effort. Is that so bad?
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Look, I just want to win without any skill or effort. Is that so bad?
Please let me into your tier of matchmaking.
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Look, I just want to win without any skill or effort. Is that so bad?
Pick Drow, Centaur, Jakiro, or Void. GG
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centaur isn't as win button anymore.
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Drow remains disgusting though.
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Drow remains disgusting though.
You shut your dirty mouth. Drow is hawt.
:V
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centaur isn't as win button anymore.
Their win% only dropped 5% to 55% :V
They still dominate pubs
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Phantom Lancer. Most OPiest carry hero evah.
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PL does have his flaws though.
His early game is pathetic, and even once he's somewhat farmed, it's easy to deal with PL since he'll likely be lacking in either damage or survivability.
To top this off, he has the innate weakness of being a melee hero and offer nothing but damage in terms of utility.
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PL does have his flaws though.
His early game is pathetic, and even once he's somewhat farmed, it's easy to deal with PL since he'll likely be lacking in either damage or survivability.
To top this off, he has the innate weakness of being a melee hero and offer nothing but damage in terms of utility.
soul ring/tranq boots
early vit booster for HP, builds into tarrasque after core diff
soooo
his early-game problem is mostly damage
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his early-game problem is mostly damage
Which is kind of what I said?
There's also the fact that, due to being an illusion based hero, he can't really use some items to their full effectiveness.
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Sometimes, I feel PL is nothing but a creep with a large stick. Especially when you're farming and you have shit items. The creeps multiply and carry also sticks.
Sticks. Hitting things. Sticks.
PL + Ezalor would make things early game more interesting, because the spamming of Q is all you can do. (Hey that rhymed!). Now where is that replay where me and PX laned and he had Radiance in < 10min. Or was it 8, forgot.
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PL + Ezalor would make things early game more interesting
I don't know what your definition of interesting is, but any kotl lane is boring to me.
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and anyone with AoE clears him out easy until he gets HP, but then we go into the problem Dormio mentioned. :v
I dunno, KotL lanes are sorta cool. Not particularly interesting beyond 'hey we have infinite mana enjoy getting nuked out of lane', but that in and of itself is sorta amusing.
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Which is kind of what I said?
well on second thought, if you go soul ring/tranq like a reasonable person you can spam phantom lance without having to need a KOTL chakra magicking your ass every X seconds
I don't know what your definition of interesting is, but any kotl lane is boring to me.
Go into offensive trilanes and then we'll talk
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well on second thought, if you go soul ring/tranq like a reasonable person you can spam phantom lance without having to need a KOTL chakra magicking your ass every X seconds
Uhh... And? How is this supposed to change the fact that he will be lacking in damage or survivability.
Go into offensive trilanes and then we'll talk
KotL lanes still boring as shit. You're basically hoping that your enemy is stupid enough to walk into lane so that you can stunlock them into illuminates.
Any smart enemy means that absolutely nothing happens in the lane except for one guy last hitting.
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Any smart enemy means that absolutely nothing happens in the lane except for one guy last hitting.
no way man, shit must go down when 2 trilanes face off.
also my 2 cents, the longer you delay your core damage items as a carry the worse off you are. only exception i can think of is if it involves a bkb.
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no way man, shit must go down when 2 trilanes face off.
Well I guess that could be an exception.
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Kotl lane boring? Not when I am playing him. You seem to underestimate my powers!
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soul ring/tranq boots
early vit booster for HP, builds into tarrasque after core diff
soooo
his early-game problem is mostly damage
Really fragile without it. I'm very used to building tranq and soul ring then diff and heart. I'm going off course of the traditional "vlad" first build...I don't even build vlads anymore. After getting HoT, AoEs doesn't scare you much anymore. Probably the scariest counter carry should be a Mort with bfury, and atkspeed items. Not butterfly, 'cause "smart" people know evasion doesn't stack.Uhh... And? How is this supposed to change the fact that he will be lacking in damage or survivability.
All I do is spam lance like a madman. If the enemy is stupid enough to stay in line with health equal or less to lance damage, I get kills. Usually I do spirit lance last hitting kills, with my reason "I'm the carry here!". It is a >Valid argument<. I abuse doppel walk a lot, and I mean a lot. Scouting, decoy for spells, backstabs , surprise attacks, chasing, extra illusion, and ofc. escaping. My average death on lancer is usually 0 - 3 - 4 at maximum thanks to doppel walk, unless I've been "gem'd". I also max out doppel walk second, along with spirit lance first. Usually I roam/gank to get kills/last hits, very rarely I lane or farm(maybe only if there's no visible enemies on map). PL is pretty useless against a lot of carry heroes, but he does deal great when 1 on 1, except carries like Mortred. Skel King and AM is pretty easy off.
One thing I love about PL though is that he's a one-man army. While your team ganks/war, your there on another lane pushing them away. Go, all the way!~
But anyways, yes. Early game PL will suck as hell. Late? The most confusing war you'll get is from an enemy full of illusions along teammates. Then again, almost all hard carries suck early.
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Unfortunately, Soul/Tranqs don't REALLY solve the main problem of "I have no HP".
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Phantom Lancer is a pissy pussy. This topic needs more RAW MANLINESS:
(http://mobawars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/eZfkhiOmY6A.jpg)
Best melee hero forever, Phantom Lancers are pussies and need not even come close to this rugged manly rawness that will tear to shit the prissy legions of phantom lancers.
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Mogul Khan is definitely manly as manly a dota2 hero can be. It isn't just because he has a big axe or splits people into two with his ultimate. It is all in the spin. Spin to win.
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very rarely I lane or farm
Please let me into your tier of matchmaking.
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Mogul Khan is definitely manly as manly a dota2 hero can be. It isn't just because he has a big axe or splits people into two with his ultimate. It is all in the spin. Spin to win.
Mogul Khan doesn't need to split his enemies in two. He just roundhouse axes them. I actually played him last after seeing numerous feeders playing Axe and got 725 EXP/min. Fucking noobs. Axe > you.
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Juggernaught's spin to win has nothing against Mogul Khan's spin to win. It is like Meiling in DotS, except Kogasa is more lame.
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Juggernaught's spin to win has nothing against Mogul Khan's spin to win. It is like Meiling in DotS, except Kogasa is more lame.
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.
WE NEED TO HAVE A GAME SOME TIME.
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Please let me into your tier of matchmaking.
We would easily stomp there and get kicked out after two wins.
Also, you still have spare invites. Go use one and go scrubbing, losing a few games to go down in tiers.
Or we can go with the original plan of stomp all games yet never winning any :V
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OHGODENCHANTRESSISSOAWESOMEAGAINSTDROWRANGER
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OHGODENCHANTRESSISSOAWESOMEAGAINSTDROWRANGER
Until level 11.
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Until level 11.
Silence Silence Silence Silence, Drow is Beyond Godlike!!!
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Until level 11.
Silence Silence Silence Silence, Drow is Beyond Godlike!!!
I was killing her all game long!
Also:
Team with Huskar, Sniper, Pudge, Viper and me as Enchantress. (Because fucking Sniper refused to get a teamplay character.)
Guess who ended up as level 25 first and was the only one carrying the team?
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Phantom Lancer is a pissy pussy. This topic needs more RAW MANLINESS:
(http://mobawars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/eZfkhiOmY6A.jpg)
Best melee hero forever, Phantom Lancers are pussies and need not even come close to this rugged manly rawness that will tear to shit the prissy legions of phantom lancers.
That manliness is still no match for a farmed up gay illusion lancers with HoT. Btw who wins between Axe and Cent? I think a CW is pretty powerful with his ref skill and bmail all together. Please let me into your tier of matchmaking.
Why? Less ganky, more problem'y? Mostly I singledraft nowadays. I'm getting sick and tired of all pick. It's not that I hate freely choosing, it's just that I'm so fed up with seeing the same heroes over and over.
Either be it enemy or ally, it's the same! Drow, Bounty Hunter, Huskar, DK, wannabee Pudges and vokers, feeding snipers, SA pickers if they found out no insta-gem skill, etc. You know what I mean right? It wouldn't hurt to see someone use a Visage now and then.
One thing I hate about SD though...you get teammates with a difference of 200 wins and 20 levels on matchmaking. I was killing her all game long!
Also:
Team with Huskar, Sniper, Pudge, Viper and me as Enchantress. (Because fucking Sniper refused to get a teamplay character.)
Guess who ended up as level 25 first and was the only one carrying the team?
Sniper is probably the mot fragile out there. No escape, low HP, pitiful early base attack dmg. Even farmed up, he's still frag as hell.
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Sniper is a decent hero, but not when you get Shadow Blade at 31 minutes in, and not when your team already has three carries and no disabler.
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Why? Less ganky, more problem'y?
Because it sounds like low tier. And I love low tier matchmaking.
Either be it enemy or ally, it's the same! Drow, Bounty Hunter, Huskar, DK, wannabee Pudges and vokers, feeding snipers, SA pickers if they found out no insta-gem skill, etc. You know what I mean right? It wouldn't hurt to see someone use a Visage now and then.
I very rarely see Huskar, Dragon Knight, and Rikimaru. Huskar and Riki are trash, and there's nothing that makes DK exceptional in comparison to other carries.
Sniper is a decent hero, but not when you get Shadow Blade at 31 minutes in, and not when your team already has three carries and no disabler.
Sniper is fucking awesome. But what the fuck is a Shadow Blade?
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Visage just doesn't get played regardless. Give a guy single draft and he won't pick Visage. Not many things can make a person pick Visage except personal taste.
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100% winrate with Visage, baby.
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Untitled-41.png)
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100% random rate with Visage baby.
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100% random rate with Visage baby.
ftfy
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>Play as Rubick
>Lina Ragna Blades me
>Steal Ragna Blade, throw it right back in her face
And someone here didn't have increased magic resistance and HP pool increasing items! /gg
Also I rarely got to use Telekinesis, was too busy Dragon Slaving and Timestopping everyone. :D
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Got into a greevil game with 5 enemies with the black hole. The good thing is that they only had a good sinergy during the first fight before the first greevils appeared :V
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You may only pick one:
- Shoulders of the Slain Dragon
- Blade of the Crimson Cut-throat - Called by Pesco
- Champion's Belly Belt
- Chronite Armour - Called by Pee Exx.
- Fishing Halberd - Trance-ouji
- Saberhorn's Heavy Chopper
- Saberhorn's Pauldron
- Shoulder of the Noble
- Boneslayer Frostivus 2012 - Called by Hourai
- Boneslayer Frostivus 2012 - Called by Dormio
For free, one per person, for Christmas. First dibs apply.
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Dibs - Blade of the Crimson Cut-throat
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bonerslayer dibs
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Chronite Armor is mine
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I call the other boneslayer.
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I'll be on in an hour or so, so come collect your presents then. :-) Modified the list for dib callers, the others are still available!
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https://dotabuff.com/matches/86851237
We...took a game seriously for once?
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Dazzle!
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I very rarely see Huskar, Dragon Knight, and Rikimaru. Huskar and Riki are trash, and there's nothing that makes DK exceptional in comparison to other carries.
frost dragon strongth
(Carry DK is exceptionally popular for what it is in the Asian Dota[2] pro scene for what it's worth, but no one in the West does it)
Sniper is fucking awesome. But what the fuck is a Shadow Blade?
You need to be a true sniper.
You may only pick one:
For free, one per person, for Christmas. First dibs apply.
Dibs on Fishing Halberd.
Also why haven't we added each other yet
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frost dragon strongth
I forgot he had that. :derp:
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Huskar and Riki are trash, and there's nothing that makes DK exceptional in comparison to other carries.
Armlet huskar is pubstomp.
Riki is pubstomp too because people tend to buy invisibility detection less often there.
But what the fuck is a Shadow Blade?
Uncle Lothar wants you!
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Can I get the Shoulders of the Slain Dragon?
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I'm claiming Saberhorn's Pauldron. My steam name is different as you can see from the OP
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I got rot, decrepify, and purification.
in short. ew.
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I'm claiming Saberhorn's Pauldron. My steam name is different as you can see from the OP
Can I get the Shoulders of the Slain Dragon?
Right-o.
Like the great twin riders Dark and Light, and yet another ancient traveler whose true history is lost to the ages, Io the Wisp is a Fundamental of the universe-a force older than time, a wanderer from realms far beyond mortal understanding.
OK, I get the twin riders Dark and Light are Chaos Knight and Keeper of the Light respectively, so who is the other ancient traveler whose history is lost to the ages?
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im going to assume wisp
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It's from Wisp's biography, and from an English point of view that wouldn't make sense:
Like the great twin riders and another ancient traveler, Io the Wisp is a Fundamental of the universe.
It clearly implies there's a third ancient traveler there! I wanna knooow! I spent all day reading all biographies but couldn't figure it out.
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It's either Enigma or Faceless Void or Outworld Destroyer.
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Like the great twin riders and another ancient traveler, Io the Wisp is a Fundamental of the universe.
kinda misquoted the bio but w/e, the rest of wisps bio would make the most sense for it
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kinda misquoted the bio but w/e, the rest of wisps bio would make the most sense for it
I broke it down to show how I read that, and how I believe it should be read. :V
It's either Enigma or Faceless Void or Outworld Destroyer.
I'll go play Outworld Destroyer next game then. :V:V Must play all Fundamentals.
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Be the guy to put the fun in fundamentals.
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I've already put the laughter in slaughter as Enchantress, so putting the fun in fundamental as Wisp or KotL shouldn't be too hard. Outworld Destroyer, though...
http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1031776
This seems to indicate Enigma is the last Fundamental, so putting the Fun in Fundamental as Enigma'll be a challenge. :V (Enigma doesn't create fun for anything but its own team.)
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https://dotabuff.com/matches/92186962
dormio is best Void
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Fuck you too. It's hard to play with no sound.
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Infinity kinda bad at morphling yo :V
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The Australian server is so fucking sexy.
5ms ping.
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(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/902110606459545039/32285F80E791E7BFF3313C86ED68DEDBF9973662/)
This game is hard.
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low priority is a magical place
not sure I really want to go there.
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low priority is a magical place
not sure I really want to go there.
Darkninja has like, 170 days of low-prio matchmaking, but I get matches within 2 minutes when I queue with him. :V
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Wait lol, there is an aussie server now? Hahaha.
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Darkninja has like, 170 days of low-prio matchmaking, but I get matches within 2 minutes when I queue with him. :V
Now 190. :V
I really should get to sticking around with this pool it seems. :getdown:
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Now 190. :V
I really should get to sticking around with this pool it seems. :getdown:
Learn2not abandon.
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Is your connection just terrible that you keep abandoning or are you just rage quitting a lot?
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>Finished game in 23 minutes
Enemy had pro picks:
Silencer
Riki
Slark
Phantom Assassin
Phantom Lancer
We had:
Puck (me!)
Huskar
Viper
Vengeful Spirit
Drow Ranger
ggwp
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Hero and I put up a valiant last stand but the one at a time strategy was too strong and they overpowered us. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PhUS8Dw-YY)
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Wow, I was just lurking around and realized my name is in the list o-o;
It might be a good idea to remove it, Helepolis, since I don't play DotA 2... (Crap computer)
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Is your connection just terrible that you keep abandoning or are you just rage quitting a lot?
None of the above, truth was that games tend to go longer than I expected, and my schedule is rather tight. When I first picked up the game, games are finished in 15 minutes (because I kept feeding) or so, and I had this 'average time for a match' in mind whenever I start a match.
Short version, real-life stuff got in the way.
It was after I got more experienced that I realized I should never jump into a game unless I have at least an hour on hand, but then it was too late. :V
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Wow, I was just lurking around and realized my name is in the list o-o;
It might be a good idea to remove it, Helepolis, since I don't play DotA 2... (Crap computer)
Done
It was after I got more experienced that I realized I should never jump into a game unless I have at least an hour on hand, but then it was too late. :V
I think this is pretty much what you should reserve for any dota game you play once you're out of the noob games. Even with noobs, just reserve an hour because you'll never know.
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I think this is pretty much what you should reserve for any dota game you play once you're out of the noob games. Even with noobs, just reserve an hour because you'll never know.
Oh, and right, in my noob days, I selected all game modes so that I will have ''maximum efficiency'' when searching for games.
Now that I look back, I believe the people at Captains Mode must've thought I was a troll or something.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=90850774
I have bought omniwards.
I win.
edit: nevermind, different picture but also hilarious NATURE'S BRINGER FROM LIKE SEVERAL VERSIONS AGO.
also we all have copies of dota2. lots of copies.
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I have 10 copies of Dota to give to you guys for those who don't have the game...But want it, because its clogging up my inventory!
Just hit me up with your steam name here.
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Let's get Hele to update on the player list how many invites we have :V
Got 11.
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Hero is the worst feeder. I mean, seriously.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/272957_481306095248363_1544502581_o.jpg
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I'd be more worried about the 666 gold. Also, how the fuck has every single medusa have a different build and yet all still lose?
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because the games havent lasted 50mins +
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Medusa was out?
I haven't played her yet.
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Hero is the worst feeder. I mean, seriously.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/272957_481306095248363_1544502581_o.jpg
>Lion has Line Stun
>Rubick has AoE Stun
>Enigma has ST Stun and AoE Disable
>Beastmaster has AoE Stun
>Not a single reliable stun on enemy team
Holy shit why do they do this.
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Vacuum sorta stops Black Hole.
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>Beastmaster has AoE Stun
In which ungodly patch did this happen?
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I think he's talking about the whole slide thing on secondary targets.
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Still not a stun.
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also chen had a centaur for 90% of the game...except when I stole persuasion.
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In which ungodly patch did this happen?
Oh, it's just ST Stun. Still a stun.
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http://www.dotacinema.com/tournaments/smoke-of-defeat-us-eu
so yeah. Let's try this again.
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I hate you Amra. (http://www.dotacinema.com/tournament_teams/maidens-of-the-kaleidoscope)
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You know, I think I've actually lost every lane I've played against Axe. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAN337gaauk)
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Can someone explain to me why being the group disable is a fucking terrible role to play? In none of the pub games I actually see someone think, "Hey, we already have two carries but no group disable, I should pick that."
I've more wins than losses but I still get shit tier matchmaking.
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Why the fuck is the Korean captain of the team? Count me in.
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Can someone explain to me why being the group disable is a fucking terrible role to play? In none of the pub games I actually see someone think, "Hey, we already have two carries but no group disable, I should pick that."
I've more wins than losses but I still get shit tier matchmaking.
Because your team is invariably made up of retards that will follow up your blink+black hole by standing around drooling.
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because group disable isn't a role so much as something only a few heroes have in the few place?
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because group disable isn't a role so much as something only a few heroes have in the few place?
Permit me to rephrase.
Why do people hate having disables?
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Permit me to rephrase.
Why do people hate having disables?
Carries get all the fame, supports get all the blame
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Are you the type of person who gets 4 disables in omg? Because I am.
Also, people like killing other people.
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Disables suck. Everyone knows that. I've lost so many damn games because I got a disabler instead of a carry.
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okay nevermind tournament isn't happening
not fast enough signup
oh well
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Disables suck. Everyone knows that. I've lost so many damn games because I got a disabler instead of a carry.
I have now started losing games with an Initiator, because when I initiate a fight, my team takes it as a cue to run away.
I'm fucking done playing initiators, I'll just pick a dumb carry regardless of team picks.
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just play carries like brewmaster who go in with or with out an initiator
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BIG PLAYS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XgTDs2ZTXE)
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we discovered people who are better at throwing than us
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we discovered people who are better at throwing than us
Nobody can throw harder than Mouz
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https://dotabuff.com/matches/102721743
I have no idea how they could have thrown as hard as they did but somehow they managed to.
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just play carries like brewmaster who go in with or with out an initiator
That works out great so far. I've taken to Night Stalker just zipping in, murdering the fragiles and then getting out. BKB like a boss.
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Ginger supremacy?
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Untitled-48.png)
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Almost as bad as Outworld Demolisher.
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DBR didn't last long, lol (http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=70481)
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Panda for Bear? Time to become Admiral Bulldog
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Troll Warlord is now live.
Time to avoid DotA until the hype dies down.
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no dormio now is the time to pick ursa every game and out rightclick him
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Bronze scrubs
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(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz137/Amraphenson/rating_zpsa0d802f0.png)
awww yiiissss
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Time to see how Troll Warlord fairs against Timbersaw...
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(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz137/Amraphenson/rating_zpsa0d802f0.png)
awww yiiissss
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Untitled-51.png)
Get on my level.
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[20:52:09] <PX> So, basicaly, if you steal Troll warlord's Berserker's rage with rubick, toggle it to melee, and then die, you'll stay in melee mode. If you steal lone druid's true form after that, and use it, your attack range will drop to -194, rendering you unable to attack.
Rubick best hero.
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(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7650/rankingc.png) :smug:
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wat lol.
How do I gets the rating?
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You need to log onto dotabuff to view your own.
Also, damn Dular.
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dammit forgot my steam password and username
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lol I remembered and then dotabuff shut down or some shit.
I guess I'll never know.
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You are good at this Dan.
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Troll Warlord is now live.
Time to avoid DotA until the hype dies down.
Every match I had a troll at the opposing team.
We still won 'cause he can't kill my confusing Phantom Lancer.
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Every match I had a troll at the opposing team.
We still won 'cause he can't kill my confusing Phantom Lancer.
Every Troll I've seen has been fed. Every Troll has been on the enemy team. I hope it stays that way.
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Troll Warlord, I have yet to see his use in carrying/support without obvious feeding. I don't know the hero that much so maybe someone can shed a light on him for me but from the few games I have experienced him as ally/enemy he wasn't quite impressive unless obviously fed with imba items < 15min.
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>Troll Warlord
>Support
wat
He's just another carry. Not sure what you're expecting.
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He's okay early/mid, but Trance keeps getting better as the game goes on. I was in a game where we were sorta stomping a Troll team around, then lost one teamfight at the 40-min mark and they simply waltzed in, took t3 tower, both barracks and one of the innermost towers in like 15 seconds.
Also people never seem to use the ranged attack so just pick Drow/Viper and laugh at them.
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Jah'rakal has a pretty good second skill while in melee mode (60% miss with some decent damage), and he hurts pretty well if you give him time to wail on you for a bit, but... you're giving him time to wail on you for a bit. I didn't find him impressive either. His second ranged skill is pathetic (75 damage with a slow, unreliable because FIVE AXES LOL LOL LOL). The slow is good. THE DAMAGE IS GODAWFUL.
His ult is pretty sweet, but as a support, not carry.
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His second ranged skill is pathetic (75 damage with a slow, unreliable because FIVE AXES LOL LOL LOL). The slow is good.
>Easy to land, 5.75 slow with ridiculous range.
>Pathetic.
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His ult is pretty sweet, but as a support, not carry.
.....what?
Bard, honey, stop. Just stop.
You literally just said an ASPD steroid was bad as a carry. Especially a second one.
-are you out of your fucking mind-.
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trolls only purpose is that he gets absurd dps and just wails on people one by one until they fall over. his nukes are to 1) make sure he can catch things (ranged) or 2) make sure he comes out on top if it comes down to a manly duel (melee). he is one of the few heroes who naturally reaches the aspd cap. He's definitely a carry. A shitty one that needs BKB before he does anything and is stopped more so than any other carry by a ghost scepter, but a carry.
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1725
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buy diffusual blade, not give fucks about ghost scepter
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Dormio plays Troll Warlord. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QT1EaOiPPQ)
An alternate title would be "Dormio procs bash". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7exNZoR0Yj0)
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sometimes man.
sometimes just go in outnumbered
and it doesn't matter.
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Have I mentioned how much I love the Australia server? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyOXd0Dfgts)
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Have I mentioned how much I love the Australia server? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyOXd0Dfgts)
I heard yesterday faf was very depressed about the fact you guys queued in Australia. Is this true? :V
Also if there is no skill that goes through BKB/Repel, WD+Omni combo is pretty funny and especially if your team builds around it. For the "lulz" that is.
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I heard yesterday faf was very depressed about the fact you guys queued in Australia. Is this true? :V
Yes. But he was a support so nobody cared.
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Yes. But he was a support so nobody cared.
No respect for the supports! NO RESPECT! Suffering.
I remember there was a guide regarding the path of suffering as support.
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disrupter best support. troll the crap out of everyone with glimpse
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He's definitely a carry. A shitty one that needs BKB before he does anything and is stopped more so than any other carry by a ghost scepter, but a carry.
Timbersaw is best troll counter until BKB yes yes
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hahaha no.
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https://dotabuff.com/matches/112978337
Fed Kunkka. They let us base race. Rofl.
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Wait, Dotabuff is back up?
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Wait, Dotabuff is back up?
there was never really a reason to be down for a whole week. valve released an alternative to the method dotabuff used to gather match data.
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As you can see, I am a completely selfless player dedicated only to the greater good that is my team. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8_l0bffXv0)
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I have a friend who doesn't win Dotos often.
The bliss of his matchmaking tier, when I can own stuff with Chen without micromanaging overmuch.
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Why is it that when I play a good Pudge, the rest of my team sucks?
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Why is it that when I play a good Pudge, the rest of my team sucks?
Pudge Clause
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I thought that was dormio's sniper clause.
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I feel for the warlock
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Showing off!
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=103065589
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=125622007
Also, I'm pretty much done with trading as soon as I got that badger, so I'm planning on giving away my unusual seraphic greevil and an extra strange common furion horns.
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Why is All Random the best thing ever? Whenever i play SD solo things always go terribly wrong, but i win almost all the time when playing AR. and for some reason almost all of my random heroes have bee carries and those games have gone quite good considering I'm awful at playing carries and it's my shittiest role.
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>Single Draft
lmao.
Anyway, it's probably because enemy teams aren't getting a good composition that can effectively shut someone down, meaning that carries get to do whatever they want for most of the game.
That, and baddies.
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Chicken Courier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNhG2ui5FzQ)
REALLY want the unusual version of this, but I don't really like the sakura effect that much.
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>Single Draft
lmao.
Anyway, it's probably because enemy teams aren't getting a good composition that can effectively shut someone down, meaning that carries get to do whatever they want for most of the game.
That, and baddies.
I tend to play SD and AR because it makes me play different heroes most of the time, which will in time sort of give me an understanding of how they all play and such. That and my premade group insist on playing those two all of the time.
Edit: And then I lose a game because we get no carries and no help on a stun-heavy bot lane. Just dandy :/
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Fuck, the couriers in Dota2 are becoming quite nice. I want that chicken.
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http://dotabuff.com/players/86736893
So dotabuff made a guy who plays Wisp almost 700 times over 700+ games number 1.
I don't know what to say...
Btw, DBR was removed a few days ago. Last I checked I was Platinum, and as most people say, the average players are plat, and those considered below are not really skilled. Since Diamonds make atleast 1%(just like in Star Craft 2?), they're probably the real pros.
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iirc that guy who plays wisps kinda cheated dotabuff by abusing the wisp bug alot. though he really is a skilled wisp player
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sometimes I can't man.
sometimes I really can't.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/122354022
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huskar won the game since he has dagon 5
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huskar won the game since he has dagon 5
My dagon is amazing, isn't it? :V
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>Play as Skeleton King, Rubick and Centaur as Support
>Neither buys any Wards, Dust or upgrades Courier
>40 minutes into the game, Rubick has finished Arcane Boots, and has no other items
ヽ(；▽；)ノ
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oh man get hyped for some hot walrus action tomorrow
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Fucking instalocking that shit.
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WALRUS PUNCH
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- Added a "Add Self to Roster" button that shows up for Team Admins that aren't part of their Team's Roster.
Let's go scrub out more :D
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Where are you reading that, I don't see a changelog at all. :S
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- Fixed Meepo/Scepter exploit.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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So when are you lot going to actually join a Tournament for once? You are disgracing the name of MotK !
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So I tried playing Tuskarr in the low priority pool. (http://dotabuff.com/matches/125651709)
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So I tried playing Tuskarr in the low priority pool. (http://dotabuff.com/matches/125651709)
Since when have I become anon. :V
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since you didn't set your dotabuff stuff to public.
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Low priority. The hood.
Crystal maiden with heaven's halbard, that is an interesting item Amra. But it isn't carry maiden!
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it's
MUSCLE MAIDEN
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You know what I hate? They added a "Regional Language" setting, and even if I pick English, most of my teammates talk in foreign languages. They're most likely teammates, but come on, have some sense that the game needs team communication, not a chatroom for 2-3 people. Another thing is that I wish Valve would add that "Ranking" system into full motion. Not because of bragging rights or anything, but for Ranked matchups. I really hate teammates who are really below ranked. Plainly, maybe because of how they play, and it affects the team. Straight to the point, teammates are so stupid. I mean, rarely I have find ever to play with, and also against a team who are evenly matched. Like, there's no bias, and everyone is fairly good or atleast decent in a case. But no, everyone has too be some dunderhead who'll most likely play a carry, or semi, or support that never actually supports, or a ganking team that goes head on so much without thinking, that they would lose.
Valve's matchmaking, might be based on Wins? Or not, maybe just tiering up random people in one match. Wins alone can't determine how good a player is. They should eliminate win counts, loses, abandons, and set up ranks. They should take Starcraft II's ranking system as a prime example of that.
Also...atleast 90% of the players use the All Pick mode. I never got a chance to play on Least Played, to atleast have a fair match.
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You sound kinda like the the sort that you don't want to play with.
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You sound kinda like the the sort that you don't want to play with.
Yes...YES I AM.
No, seriously though. I just want decent teammates. Atleast 80% of my wins games probably came from opposing teams own stupid. I mean, like, they all just went there, and keep on losing like have insane amount of deaths and stuff.
The same goes for my losses. A ranked match, means you can have atleast a match with people on your same level. I never found any problem on SC2 with that matter.
Maybe it's just me. But seriously...
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It's dangerous to go alone...
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Personally, I win almost all of my solo queues, so I don't understand the fear of solo queue that most people have.
I'm actually afraid of stacked queues, because some of the people I party up with are a fair bit below the matchmaking tier me and some of my friends are in and so they get dragged with us to a higher tier of matchmaking and feed.
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^ except I don't bother solo queuing anymore. But my solo queue experience is in general higher in performance than my group queue.
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http://dotabuff.com/matches/128985194
Recently tried out my first time as earthshaker, rockblocking enemies is simply hilarious.
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TL versus Empire yesterday in TPL4 made me so very happy.
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I'm actually afraid of stacked queues, because some of the people I party up with are a fair bit below the matchmaking tier me and some of my friends are in and so they get dragged with us to a higher tier of matchmaking and feed.
QFT. I'd rather solo queue with a polish, russian, pinoy and brazilian person than get dragged into a high-tier game by having Dular in my party.
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QFT. I'd rather solo queue with a polish, russian, pinoy and brazilian person than get dragged into a high-tier game by having Dular in my party.
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7650/rankingc.png) :smug:
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I finally installed this, so add me if you want to queue with someone who hasn't played since 6.0x :ohdear:
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Buying a Radiant HUD for three lotus keys, if anyone is interested.
EDIT: too late lol
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Team MotK created for a tournament (http://www.bigpoint-battle.com/en/cups/685-bigpoint-battle-1/teams/6091-maidens-of-the-kaleidoscope#). Poke me on IRC for the join details.
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Valve's matchmaking, might be based on Wins? Or not, maybe just tiering up random people in one match. Wins alone can't determine how good a player is. They should eliminate win counts, loses, abandons, and set up ranks. They should take Starcraft II's ranking system as a prime example of that.
No idea about SCII, but I think Dormio repeated several times that MMR is not tied to win/losses/abandons.
Random 5-men-parties mostly bound to fail more than less stacked. Especially when you're not the same group and mixing it up. Skills and stuff are different, fuck MMR.
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but I think Dormio repeated several times that MMR is not tied to win/losses/abandons.
It is about wins/losses, but that's not the only factor.
As you all should know, everyone has their own MMR.
Now, DotA2's matchmaking system tries to make sure that you're matched against with a similar MMR to you.
Depending on the discrepancy in MMR, you gain or lose a different amount of MMR when you win or lose.
So, if you're solo queuing, once you have enough games to firmly establish your own MMR you shouldn't gain or lose much MMR for every game that you play since the game should expect you to be pretty evenly matched.
However, if you're in a stacked queue with multiple players from different MMR brackets, thing things start getting weird.
You have a hidden party MMR statistic based around the MMRs of the individual players in your party and you will be matched according to the party MMR.
Now, you're bound to have people at a higher MMR than the party MMR, and also people at a lower MMR.
IF you win, then the people at the higher MMR won't gain much MMR as the game expects them to win a game at a lower matchmaking tier. At the same time, those with lower MMR will gain a higher amount of MMR as the game expects them to lose a game at a higher matchmaking tier.
The reverse is true if you lose a game, people with higher MMR will lose more MMR and people with lower MMR will lose less MMR since it's what the game expects.
What does this mean for my stacked queues?
Unfortunately, I tend to party up with people both at my level and far below it.
This means that we are always queuing at the High tier at the very least.
Some people that I party with simply aren't ready to play in these tiers of games and end up underperforming since they simply aren't at the skill level of the matches that they're placed in.
It's hard to win these games.
This is because the people at a higher level of matchmaking are expected to compensate for the people with lower MMR, but once you reach a certain level of matchmaking, the players learn how to take advantage of there being a weak player on the enemy team. I can't say that I don't do the same and brutally make someone useless on the enemy team if I see that they aren't very good.
But alas, I continue to play with stacked queues because playing with friends is much more fun than playing with pubs, even if the pubs I'm matched with are better than my friends.
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I feel like I'm one of "those people" dormio is talking about :ohdear:
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I propose the following situation: Creating 4 dummy accounts to match with an experienced one, and getting experienced players to play those 4 accounts. This is constantly repeated (after all, dota invites are practically free now), what happens to the MMR of the experienced (non-dummy) account?
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What I believe would happen would be that the MMR of the real account is slowly inflated, though with each game you win you'd end up in a slightly higher matchmaking tier with every game you play. And if you happened to lose a game, since pubs are strong, you'd probably lose most of the MMR you gained.
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Good luck for the tourny, guys. May YJLuck be blessed on thee.
Also inb4 we have 2 MotK teams
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More like good luck successfully signing up for a tourney, ever.
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I'm a very experienced DotA player, but kinda new to DotA 2. What's my place here?
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I'm a very experienced DotA player, but kinda new to DotA 2. What's my place here?
Give it a few weeks to get used to dota 2, then it'll be fine.
More like good luck successfully signing up for a tourney, ever.
Yes well, it's a very awkward time for most of us. Typically we're only all together for a Saturday or something, and the one tourney we went to we got stomped and we now have the realization that we actually have to practice to get anywhere, but that's not as fun compared to derp all pick.
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I'm a very experienced DotA player, but kinda new to DotA 2. What's my place here?
No idea, I assume it might be the smoothness difference and graphical thingi. Maybe the shopping window/menu, courier quick buttons and such thingis but that is about it?
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I'm a very experienced DotA player, but kinda new to DotA 2. What's my place here?
SPELL STEAL IS AMAZING NOW.
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It wasn't?
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Well it's even more so now.
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Aren't I supposed to hate this game?
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/haeun0719/Untitled_zps2284f916.png)
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huh so if anyone remembered on ts where i mentioned i turned this common axe armor into a rare sven sword, it now turned into a prismatic drake :V
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Rawr what the hell.
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what is a primsmatic drake.
sounds awesome
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It's a courier.
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Having the right rune makes a world of difference. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veiv12XrHEw)
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Fuck you KotL. Useless old man.
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921256173802510892/880EF93204C07F19CF1FFDEFE038639B148297EA/)
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(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/PX_Timefordeath/Kotl.png)
KotL has abandoned the game!
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You had better fear the TusCar. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rOoWqchcyQ)
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We need to get a five-man stack together and impersonate the Russians. Names and all. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhH4NdB2JxE)
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so
dota2 trading is kind of really odd
but i shall wrangle it. I SHALL WRANGLE IT.
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so
dota2 trading is kind of really odd
but i shall wrangle it. I SHALL WRANGLE IT.
I did get quite deep into trading, and I mostly regret it. I tend to cry a lot whenever I remember about the missed opportunities (UNUSUAL ESSENCES) and times where I got sharked. All I have is my EF courier to help maintain my mental state.
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I did get quite deep into trading, and I mostly regret it. I tend to cry a lot whenever I remember about the missed opportunities (UNUSUAL ESSENCES) and times where I got sharked. All I have is my EF courier to help maintain my mental state.
your courier is really shiny though
like seriously god damn it is shiny and i am immensely jealous because shiny things are great
mind you this seems like to actually get anywhere i'll need either a randomly massive boon (Like to open a chest and get something good) or go through tf2 keys to dota keys which is a pain because there's a 2:3 rate dota favored for some unearthly reason jesus fuck
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mind you this seems like to actually get anywhere i'll need either a randomly massive boon (Like to open a chest and get something good)
I admit I got lucky once and got an unusual but I proceeded to get sharked with that and got a loss of -10 keys.
Alternatively, there's times where you could invest on items: Timebreaker was worth 1 key when it was released, 4-6 when it was made vintage, and 28 presently. Dragonclaw hook has a similar experience with it being around 3 keys during the summer chest period, but I'm not sure about its price at the moment, probably around 20+. This is also why people invested in the rotten stache. Unusual esscenes were worth 3 keys when they were first released, 10 keys after diretide, and dropped to 2-3 keys during/after frostivius. And then there's also the immortal couriers and I don't ever want to check their prices ever because I'll probably cry if I do so.
or go through tf2 keys to dota keys which is a pain because there's a 2:3 rate dota favored for some unearthly reason jesus fuck
Supply and demand! TF2 lasted a lot more longer and there's a lot more tf2 keys in the market. I thought I saw it 1:2 before, but I guess enough dota keys has been released into the market to cause its price to drop.
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see this is all well and good -except the keys cost the exact same-
and while I'm not sure if you need a dota invite to buy them, you can still fetch 'em off the market, trade them, and make a profit in monies right now p.sure
it's kind of ridiculous and dumb (Much like 8 keys for crystalline set. $20 worth of keys for $12.)
like i said maybe i'm being realistic and realizing these items exist outside their bubble, but god damn.
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it's kind of ridiculous and dumb (Much like 8 keys for crystalline set. $20 worth of keys for $12.)
The economy thus far has estbalished keys' worth as $2~ USD once they are bought from the store and it's dropping, very very slowly as more unusuals get released to the market. For instance, TF2 keys are probably worth $1.8~ USD at the moment (a rough estimate, I haven't checked the TF2 market in forever). Hence, you should be able to buy keys if you feel like investing from either the steam market or from someone through paypal exchange. However, the paypal exchange part comes with a HUGE risk so please read up on guides if you ever feel like going for that route.
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~*~the economy~*~ thus far has estbalished keys' worth as $2~ USD once they are bought from the store and it's dropping, very very slowly as more unusuals get released to the market. For instance, TF2 keys are probably worth $1.8~ USD at the moment (a rough estimate, I haven't checked the TF2 market in forever). Hence, you should be able to buy keys if you feel like investing from either the steam market or from someone through paypal exchange. However, the paypal exchange part comes with a HUGE risk so please read up on guides if you ever feel like going for that route.
Yeaah, Steam Market knocks them down about 25 cents, which is...amusing, and weird. Because again, complete loss of profit.
I suppose I just don't understand how something with a concrete price is actually -devalued- by the market, it just seems weird because we don't need to make up a price for them- we have one already set. I guess i'm thinking in money here: 'I can get x for y dollars' when trying to understand something that's trying to separate itself from that aspect.
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I suppose I just don't understand how something with a concrete price is actually -devalued- by the market, it just seems weird because we don't need to make up a price for them- we have one already set. I guess i'm thinking in money here: 'I can get x for y dollars' when trying to understand something that's trying to separate itself from that aspect.
There's people who want money in return for their keys which they have earned in the instance where they get profit from buying low and selling high or netting an unusual. The only way to create demand for that is to resell the keys at the lower price of the store. Hence, the more unusuals get released into the market, the more the supply of keys these resellers will obtain, which further lowers the price of outside-keys. (However, this probably isn't the only thing affecting their price, I'm quite sure things aren't that simple and that's way more factors affecting their price).
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There's people who want money in return for their keys which they have earned in the instance where they get profit from buying low and selling high or netting an unusual. The only way to create demand for that is to resell the keys at the lower price of the store. Hence, the more unusuals get released into the market, the more the supply of keys these resellers will obtain, which further lowers the price of outside-keys. (However, this probably isn't the only thing affecting their price, I'm quite sure things aren't that simple and that's way more factors affecting their price).
Oh. That makes sense actually.
hurrr. I was too caught up in the numbers the store gave me and not the ones the economy actually runs by. Derp.
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hey guys, I'm interested in starting up playing DoTA2 after all the League I've played. But I have no idea how long it's going to take for me to get a key or if i really want to buy the game to start.
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i think people have more trouble getting rid of keys then getting them :V
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http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/753/Dota%202
Starting at: $0.02
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just find one of us on steam and ask gamma. chances are they'll have a spare.
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http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/753/Dota%202
what if i live in china, what's the market price for someone redeeming my key in another country and then transferring the account over
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/dota2bot
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Oh, I went on raidcall and got a key from some random guy.
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/dota2bot
"DON'T POST 'give dota' ON THE WALL BELOW."
I am amused by the response to this direction.
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I am amused by the response to this direction.
:V man people cannot read instructions haha
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Free tournament, no team required. Signup thread on reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1a0sc4/320_players_amateur_tournament_prizes_viewer_give/)
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I have like five Dotos keys again. :V
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I have like five Dotos keys again. :V
Gimme, I need more smurfs
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Zombie strong. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFsh8bYPpo)
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killstealing almost refined to an art. I let him get a kill.
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I liked the part where I died right at the start of the fight.
I did that a lot during that game.
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(http://i.imgur.com/as4HZeS.png)
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Professional stun staggering. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeGAf9QXklc)
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I like how whenever there are balance changes in LoL, the LoL thread explodes while over here we're just like 'kay.
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* Tranquil Boots disabled speed reduced from 50 to 25
* Tranquil Boots heal increased from 170 to 250
* Tranquil Boots cooldown increased from 40 to 60
* Tranquil Boots heal duration increased from 10 to 20
* Illuminate manacost increased from 150 to 150/160/170/180
* Illuminate AOE reduced from 400 to 350
* Spiked Carapace duration reduced from 2.75 to 2.25
* Spiked Carapace cooldown increased from 14 to 23/20/17/14
* Marksmanship bonus is removed when there are nearby enemy heroes (instead of just being halved)
* Reduced Marksmanship enemy detection aoe reduced from 400 to 375
* Heaven?s Halberd's Disarm is no longer dispelled by Manta
* Living Armor damage reduction is now done for all instances of damage that reduce its charges:
Previous Living Armor Behavior: It would eat up charges from all damage sources, but only absorb some damage from heroes physical attacks
New Living Armor Behavior: Still eats up charges from all sources (including magic), but absorbs some damage from them as well
[08:20:03] <Shizuru_Dormatsu> tranq nerf drow nerf kotl nerf nyx nerf treant buff
Where's the fucking cancer lancer nerf?
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lel 4.2 agi stronk
Marksmanship bonus is removed when
naixnaixnaixnaixnaix
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I like how whenever there are balance changes in LoL, the LoL thread explodes while over here we're just like 'kay.
when techies is released that's not all that's going to explode
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wbX6KkIIUWQ/S3o3Y0ntVEI/AAAAAAAABns/A3i9TC7aOmo/s200/Gem+of+True+Sight.gif)
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wbX6KkIIUWQ/S3o3Y0ntVEI/AAAAAAAABns/A3i9TC7aOmo/s200/Gem+of+True+Sight.gif)
is that a fruit gusher? man i remember those they were delicious
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It's making Techies useless for 700 gold.
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Nyxnyxnyxnyxnyxnyx
Btw Dormio I have more stuff for you
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Living Armor damage reduction is now done for all instances of damage that reduce its charges
i actually consider this a nerf
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No Rawr it used to do that anyway, but it just wouldn't reduce the damage of certain sources.
Now it's changed to reduce all the damage that actually eats charges.
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oh i see i misread it
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Where's the fucking cancer lancer nerf?
Why would a Lancer nerf be necessary? KotL's the broken one.
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I dunno. The ridiculous amount of agility he gains that gets transferred to his illusions which gives him the easiest farm in the world since his illusions can wipe neutral camps with relative ease and sustain themselves forever?
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And he doesn't even need money to do it.
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How about we don't abuse diseases like this, because just someone mentioned it doesn't mean we should all use it as a fashionable name. Cancer is anything but fashionable/funny. Just saying.
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Good first blood. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foip18TuqeY)
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FIRE FAIRY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctqDGpjs36U)
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lol'd.
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How To Win Sniper:
- Pick Bounty Hunter
- Gank
- ???
- Victory.
Good god, BH is scary when farmed. I was taking down their Magnus in two hits by the end.
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I AM SOOO DONE WITH PUB GAMES...they hurt me so bad. :ohdear:
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Incoming threadlock whenever Helelelelelelepolis has time.