Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: Ramus on June 02, 2009, 11:33:50 PM
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What are some recent RPGs that you've played that you feel can be labeled utterly awesome or fun. Please try to point out lesser known ones, we've already heard about the Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, and Dragon Quest remakes.
Also, RPG is a loose term, so don't worry about sticking strictly to turn based battles, even if the game is a shooter with RPG elements, that can work.
My personal favorite is Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer for the DS. It's a roguelike of sorts, but it still retains that epic RPG feel as stuff carries over after death and you're traveling the land as more or less, a wanderer. It has no problems with the idea of kicking your butt and after you beat the game, well... then you get started on the true game with a new 100 floor dungeon as well as a food based dungeon, a trap base dungeon, and a freaking 70 floor expansion to the old dungeon leading to a difficult but fair game with loads and loads of replayability.
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Baten Kaitos Origins is the first game that pops into my head.
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Knights in the Nightmare is first one because it is epically beautiful and awesome
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Super Robot Taisen OG Saga - Endless Frontier, Epic battle system, Epic boobs jokes.
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Knights in the Nightmare is first one because it is epically beautiful and awesome
looks cool, might have to give it a go.
My fave rpg series of all time is Lunar: The Silver Star, and Lunar: Eternal blue. They remade them for the psx as you all probably know. I still favor my original Eternal blue more than the remake though. Silver star was a better remake imo.
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Fallout 3 and Oblivion are one of the best RPGs in the world and also Fable 2 is the simplest and one of the best but in a different way from F3 or Ob
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JOCPMklqmI&feature=channel_page
I haven't actually played it, but being the Gamefreak fanboy that I am, I think it's awesome and that it should have a fan translation by now. (http://dustloop.com/forums/images/smilies/custom/v.gif)
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THE WORLD ENDS WITH YOU.
FABLE.
Nuff said.
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TWEWY was surprisingly good, one of the better "recent" games to come out.
(I say surprisingly because judging from its marketing one would believe the game is concentrated weeaboo bait with ridiculous controls.)
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TWEWY is one of the best games evar.
Also, Terranigma. Anyone who hasn't played it needs to get the hell out of the thread and come back once they have.
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TWEWY was surprisingly good, one of the better "recent" games to come out.
(I say surprisingly because judging from its marketing one would believe the game is concentrated weeaboo bait with ridiculous controls.)
TWEWY is GOTY
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Disgaea. That is all.
Also, Battle Moon Wars is pretty damn awesome. It's the only game where you can have a psychotic maid dope up Fem!King Arthur before she obliterates Getter Robo with a giant sword laser (among other things), and that's got to count for something.
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I haven't played it much, but Rudra No Hihou is pretty good and has some of the best boss music to come from the snes era. Also Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis is a great strategy rpg.
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I haven't played it much, but Rudra No Hihou is pretty good and has some of the best boss music to come from the snes era.
This. More people need to play it. Bloody hard, though.
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basically any game that is released by Atlus is awesome in some aspect imho..
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I haven't played it much, but Rudra No Hihou is pretty good and has some of the best boss music to come from the snes era. Also Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis is a great strategy rpg.
Haven't heard of rudra no hihou. I have knight of lodis though. I personally felt it as being ok only. Compared to the ogre battle series (which is omgwtfpwn imo), it was a dissapointment. I'd have to say the music felt pretty darn weak too. Not very important to the game but I really hate final bosses whose difficulty revolve around status ailments. *shudders at "protect doas" or whatever its name is from lufia and the fortress of doom*.
Yes I know where are often artifacts or relics or rings or whatever that prevent such things, but I always tell myself to beat a game before reading a guide, and getting all the uber equipment, and all that. So it's normally not an option for me to gear up my entire party with ribbons or whatever.
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Disgaea. That is all.
Also, Battle Moon Wars is pretty damn awesome. It's the only game where you can have a psychotic maid dope up Fem!King Arthur before she obliterates Getter Robo with a giant sword laser (among other things), and that's got to count for something.
Of course, you'll only enjoy it half as much if you haven't read pretty much every Nasuverse canon work in existence, seen all the Kara no Kyoukai movies to date, and played Melty Blood. Super Robot Wars experience not required, but it sure does help.
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Persona 4, but everyone knows that. Same with Skies of Arcadia and Wild ARMs 3.
Has anyone played Devil Summoner 2? I'm considering buying it.
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Star Ocean: Till the End of Time.
A great RPG with real-time combat, it's a solid game that does nothing game breaking but it's still very impressive to play, definitely a nice change from Final Fantasy.
The game also represents achievements called "battle trophies" which can unlock certain things, some of them are a real nightmare to get.
And it also has a endgame dungeon with over 100 floors for all you dungeon crawler freaks out there.
Also in my book feature's one of the most impressive boss fights I ever fought.
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Even though it's probably considered mainstream, Tales of Symphonia is an amazing game. You basically get 8 playable characters to mess around with and they all have very different styles of play. It's like an RPG/Fighter mesh up, which is awesome.
Another two that are great are Paper Mario and Paper Mario: TTYD. Sure, they are pretty childish in graphics and dialogue, but they are some of the most fun RPG fights there are. Every move is interactive and you really feel like you're actually fighting instead of just telling your people to do things.
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Haven't heard of rudra no hihou. I have knight of lodis though. I personally felt it as being ok only. Compared to the ogre battle series (which is omgwtfpwn imo), it was a dissapointment. I'd have to say the music felt pretty darn weak too.
I haven't played any of the others in the series so I really wouldn't know how much of a disappointment knight of lodis was and I tend to like certain games more than I should anyway. Definitely agree with you about the music.
I'm not surprised that you haven't heard of rudra no hihou considering it's a pretty obscure rpg from Square that never got released outside of Japan.
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I haven't played it much, but Rudra No Hihou is pretty good and has some of the best boss music to come from the snes era. Also Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis is a great strategy rpg.
It's good. But also hard.
Didn't stop me from finishing it twice though
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It's good. But also hard.
Didn't stop me from finishing it twice though
hard is good though, especially when it comes to rpgs where difficulty is a concept 99% of them completely lack.. aside from the occasional "you will die in 1 move if you didn't know this in advance" (good example is letting that boss turn you into zombies before casting mega death in ffx).
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Even though it's probably considered mainstream, Tales of Symphonia is an amazing game. You basically get 8 playable characters to mess around with and they all have very different styles of play. It's like an RPG/Fighter mesh up, which is awesome.
Another two that are great are Paper Mario and Paper Mario: TTYD. Sure, they are pretty childish in graphics and dialogue, but they are some of the most fun RPG fights there are. Every move is interactive and you really feel like you're actually fighting instead of just telling your people to do things.
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Best RPGs that I have played that kinda hide in plain view are
Grandia Xtreme for it's unique battle system and Dark Cloud 2 for it's
Item building, town building, and poor, yet lulzy voice acting.
Other than that I haven't gotten my hands on any outstanding RPGs lately.
FF12 was a big let down and 13 and 14 don't look like they are going to sweeten the pot.
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I think Nippon Ichi, Gust, and Atlus R&D1 make the best RPGs, personally.
Though, of course, Xenogears gets an honorable mention as well.
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Persona 4, but everyone knows that. Same with Skies of Arcadia and Wild ARMs 3.
Has anyone played Devil Summoner 2? I'm considering buying it.
ZOMG, TIS LEM!
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ZOMG, TIS LEM!
lol hai xan C=
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Custom Robo, if only for the battle system, is just one of the best damn games ever.
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Black/Matrix 00.
Shining Force Feathers.
You dogs need to play these.
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Black/Matrix 00.
Shining Force Feathers.
You dogs need to play these.
Finished.
Go play Beyond the Beyond like a man
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Finished.
Go play Beyond the Beyond like a man
I would, if my psone is still working. But sadly it doesn't anymore. :'(
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I would, if my psone is still working. But sadly it doesn't anymore. :'(
you don't have a ps2 or ps3? *gasp*.
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you don't have a ps2 or ps3? *gasp*.
Definitely do not have a ps3. On the other hand, my ps2 couldn't play a psone game.
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Definitely do not have a ps3. On the other hand, my ps2 couldn't play a psone game.
wtf. My ps2 can play psone games fine, and I thought they were all capable of doing it. Boo-urns for you. There IS the memory card problem where you still need a ps1 memory card for the ps2 though. Sucks cuz my ps1 memory card died.
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lol. Psone memory card are cheap these days.
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lol. Psone memory card are cheap these days.
They are completely unavailable where I live though, unless you buy them used, which I don't want to do seeing as it just might die too in a week.
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Well, that's too bad.
There are quite a few new ones sold around the local gamestore, here. About 3 buck each iirc.
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My PS2 doesn't even play PS2 games. <_<
I have to slot disks in and out more times than i want to for it to work. And it's not disk-read errors, it's hardware.
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DREs would be caused by the hardware, yes
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I don't know much about PS2 HDDs but if your laser is fucked and you really want to save the PS2, there's always that road.
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Legend of Heroes. (http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/loh/loh6.htm) I'd like to see a translation of the PC games.
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Baldurs Gate 2 :V
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I don't know much about PS2 HDDs but if your laser is fucked and you really want to save the PS2, there's always that road.
I don't have an HDD, and I don't think they work that way unfortunately ;_;
I'll just hold out for a new PS2 (or wait for someone to give me another free one lol)
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Baldurs Gate 2 :V
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Awesome, especially with the expansion.
Knights in the Nightmare is turning out awesomely.
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Even though it's based on a franchise, The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age was a pretty good RPG, it has good variety of skills and what not. Plus the extra part that lets you play as villians for a moment was is fun because I love controlling the Balrog. Hey Gandalf. What was that about "you shall not pass."
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Even though it's based on a franchise, The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age was a pretty good RPG, it has good variety of skills and what not. Plus the extra part that lets you play as villians for a moment was is fun because I love controlling the Balrog. Hey Gandalf. What was that about "you shall not pass."
I personally disliked that RPG. It was too bland.
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Knights in the Nightmare is turning out awesomely.
It's innovative, and awesome indeed.
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I picked up Knights in the nightmare just yesterday, gave it a bit of a go.
I don't see how it's so terribly complicated so far. Seems rather unusual that you can't move your knights around, but whatever. I'm also not a big fan of the only 1 save feature (I have a brother that will wanna try the game too). But as far as I can tell the game seems good so far.
My first strengthen item with a 98.7% chance to succeed failed.. typical for me. Why am I cursed...whyy.
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Anything involving danmaku is probably going to give you raaaaaaaaaage. Me, I'm not too interested in KitN. (lol, KitteN)
SMT Devil Survivor is coming out this day next week. I can't wait. =3
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Played it more. at scene 12 or something now.. Seriously. It's not complicated at all. what's not to understand? If you really don't know something regarding the game pm me or something and I'll try and respond back what you're screwing up if you like.
My only problem is that the so-called affinities for transouls do not seem to make a diff half the time. Bonn to moira was good, as is annalot (or whatever her name is) to fredrich (or whatever his name is, her dad). But other than that, other supposed affinities are complete sidegrades (law up, chaos down an equal amount, vit unchanged for example).. That and loyalty doesn't seem to go up w hen in combat like people say. Neither of these features should make a significant impact on your ability to play the game much though.
Anyway, anybody play the arc the lad series? I'm midway thru 2 (stopped playing for awhile cuz of Touhou lol), and find it to be pretty good. I really don't like how your party size is capped at 5 when you had like 8 in 1 though. Boo. Especially since chongoga was such an innovative (For the genre) character, and he pretty much got shot to hell in 2.
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I'd say anything made by Nippon Ichi or ATLUS(such as SMT) are pretty awesome in my book.
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ZOMG I forgot to mention a very little known rpg that is simply amazing.. There's a catch though. It's an old (system 7ish) mac game. But really, it's amazing.
The Odyssey - The legend of Nemesis.
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The Witcher
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Anyway, anybody play the arc the lad series? I'm midway thru 2 (stopped playing for awhile cuz of Touhou lol), and find it to be pretty good. I really don't like how your party size is capped at 5 when you had like 8 in 1 though. Boo. Especially since chongoga was such an innovative (For the genre) character, and he pretty much got shot to hell in 2.
Chongara was interesting. Kelack is still however the best thing ever.
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Does Tosh ever become.. well.. not god in arc 2? I transferred my save from arc 1 to 2, and to be honest I'm pretty sure it didn't really buff my characters much because I beat the game at a pretty low level overall. For example, on the first levle where you play arc, tosh, and uhh.. (popo? I forget lol), the grim reaper dudes were able to cast "ahhahah I'm higher level than you so my death spell works" on me >=P...all except kukuru that is, who was ungodly high level...Which sucks since she's the only character that doesn't seem to transfer over.
ANYWAY, despite not being higher level than anybody, my tosh in arc 2 hits for like 200-400, where my other "fighters" hit for like 80 (arc, gruga, shu, elc, ect). The funny thing is that relic he has says "ups counter damage", yet when I take it off, his counter damage stays the same, but his regular attacks do reasonable numbers of 80ish too... So I mean, is it considered cheating to beat the game using tosh with his op relic? or is it considered a given...or do future relics kinda balance out compared to that one.
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Does Tosh ever become.. well.. not god in arc 2? I transferred my save from arc 1 to 2, and to be honest I'm pretty sure it didn't really buff my characters much because I beat the game at a pretty low level overall. For example, on the first levle where you play arc, tosh, and uhh.. (popo? I forget lol), the grim reaper dudes were able to cast "ahhahah I'm higher level than you so my death spell works" on me >=P...all except kukuru that is, who was ungodly high level...Which sucks since she's the only character that doesn't seem to transfer over.
ANYWAY, despite not being higher level than anybody, my tosh in arc 2 hits for like 200-400, where my other "fighters" hit for like 80 (arc, gruga, shu, elc, ect). The funny thing is that relic he has says "ups counter damage", yet when I take it off, his counter damage stays the same, but his regular attacks do reasonable numbers of 80ish too... So I mean, is it considered cheating to beat the game using tosh with his op relic? or is it considered a given...or do future relics kinda balance out compared to that one.
Tosh never sucks. Seriously, he is awesome. It's not cheating, the difficulty curve of AtL 2 really spikes. I spent all night trying to defeat the final boss since I was only level 90-ish. :V Also his name is Poco.
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Been playing 'Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis', and it's pretty good. Item-crafting is decent, though you'll be hurting for certain materials if you're a lazy ass come the endgame ("PENDELOOOOOOOOKS..."), but it's still pretty awesome. The best part is that you can actually fine-tune your materials so that you can give your equipment specific skills and attributes (advice: Don't get the skill Heaven's Gate -- it's useless against bosses, and only deals damage based on a percentage of the victims' HP; not very useful at the part of the game you get it at, better to get elemental attack spells).
It's also got a pretty decent storyline, the option to use either English or Japanese voice acting (there being a bit more of the latter in the game) . . . and some not-half-bad English acting (*used to bad English dubbing, even in good games like Disgaea 2*; also, I think that the English voice for Vayne, the main character, sounds a lot like Akihiko from Persona 3 -- could just be my imagination, though). Also has some good humor AND drama (though some of the content HONESTLY makes me wonder how the hell it managed an 'E 10+' rating -- e.g., Nikki's storyline has her HUSBAND-HUNTING, with the intent of having a large family; that very premise ALONE . . . and let's not forget Jess/Philo, girl who has a penchant for explosions and has only years left to live, and of course the main storyline ITSELF -- you'll see when you get into the endgame). Yeah; I recommend it highly.
I've also been playing Persona 3 lately, currently being frustrated by Nata-Taishi (only to learn that you DO need an item to fuse her and thus all of my hard work raising personae was . . . well, not QUITE for nothing; got a really good offensive fighter AND Black Frost in the process) and the latest Master of Tartarus (3 Knight enemies; Block 4). I also have an innate hatred of anything with Hama as of late (Lilim is currently my main magic-user/attacker, having all 4 normal elements covered plus a Mazio and a Mudo). Ah, well. c'est la vie.
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the ultima series deserves a mention (except ultima 9).
i found it on a mysterious disk about 10 years ago, while looking for stuff.
i still don't know where that disk came from.
anyway, ultima 7 (both parts, expansion packs included) was in the disk. it was very old, even for that time, i decided to play it...it was the best RPG i had played and is still among my favorites (although it is not playable in modern computers, not without downloading some stuff anyway)
i was simply amazed, in a game older than me, people had schedules! they went to sleep, they went to the pub to eat and the game simply felt ALIVE because of that and more.
you had to EAT in the game, and could sleep to pass time, there was a day-night cycle, you could buy ships and carts, you were free to explore many areas (after passing a copy-protection test), the game world and everything in it was finely crafted and well thought out.
(and think, this game is from 1992-1993)
i simply cannot describe all of the awesomeness that took hold of me.
ultima 4 (from 1985) can now be legally downloaded. while it lacks some of the awesome things described above, it is still pretty fun for those who don't care about the graphics (remember, these games are incredibly old).
seriously, there isn't even a main bad guy in ultima 4, all you had to do was to be good! set an example to the people (but that doesn't mean that there aren't dungeons to explore and monsters to kill) and recover the codex of ultimate wisdom from the Stygian abyss.
i actually consider it better than many modern RPGs I've played.
some links to read at your leisure:
ultima 4 wikipedia page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_4
ultima 7 wikipedia page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_7
why ultima 9 doesn't live up to the others.
http://hacki.bootstrike.com/english/nitpicks_u9.htm
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I will give a cookie to anyone else on the forum who owned, played and adored the super-rare Panzer Dragoon Saga for the Sega Saturn. The first RPG I ever played through completely, and I still have fond memories of it today.
Tales of Symphonia was the next RPG to knock me for six, followed by Disgaea. Persona 3 was incredible, but I couldn't get into 4 (main complaint is that character development is practically 'here's your character, BOOM massive psychological problem that screws up their life, BOOM Shadow fight, BOOM everything's resolved'). For handheld consoles I'd recommend Riviera for GBA/PSP and TWEWY (of course).
Currently slowly falling in love with Tales of Vesperia. Karol and Raven are clearly the greatest RPG characters of all time.
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Why hasn't the Tales series been mentioned before just now.
Go get dem games
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Good question. I played Tales of Symphonia 1. Pretty cool game.
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I will give a cookie to anyone else on the forum who owned, played and adored the super-rare Panzer Dragoon Saga for the Sega Saturn. The first RPG I ever played through completely, and I still have fond memories of it today.
Owned it, played it, adored it. On my first playthrough I was some ridiculous level like 55 by the first Azel fight (end of Disc 1), because I got the 'demo' with Sega Saturn Magazine and played it compulsively while waiting for the full release.
On the subject of Saturn RPGs, Shining the Holy Ark and Shining Force III (SRPG) are both awesome.
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On the subject of Saturn RPGs, Shining the Holy Ark and Shining Force III (SRPG) are both awesome.
Okay, for playing Shining Force III as well you get a second cookie.
It really irritated me when I found out that we only ever got one third of the game, though. >_>
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I'm kind of digging around for any decent PSP RPGs...Any ideas?
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I'm kind of digging around for any decent PSP RPGs...Any ideas?
I hear Final Fantasy Tactics was pretty good on the PSP, I enjoyed the one on DS even if it was a bit simple.
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I'm kind of digging around for any decent PSP RPGs...Any ideas?
I hear Final Fantasy Tactics was pretty good on the PSP, I enjoyed the one on DS even if it was a bit simple.
Alas, I could not find it when I went to GameStop. =( A couple of Atlus' RPGs enticed me, but I wasn't willing to take a chance.
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Good question. I played Tales of Symphonia 1. Pretty cool game.
what are you talking about there was never a second silly
i mean gee i hope namco makes a sequel to the first game
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I'm currently replaying valkarie profile 2 atm, and I must say that it is high on the awsome-o-meter. 1 is too apparently though I've never managed to get a hold of it still *sigh*...curse me not getting a ps until like 3 years after t he ps2 was released lol.
About FFT for GBDS.. I don't think you mean that "FFTA2" one do you? I got that one, and well.. to be frank it sucks so far >=\.
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This is an interesting game because I just bought my first RPG PC game yesterday - Fallout 3. Was one helluva quest in itself just getting it to run in WINE. I've only just started it (gotten out of the vault, on a quest to find that one kid's father) and I can see what the hype's about. It's the kind of game that draws you in, where you could easily waste hours at a time playing it. So yeah, maybe not the most original recommendation, but Fallout 3 lives up to the hype anyway.
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Fallout 3 is a dissapointment for me actually. I can see how it's a quality game in itself sure. But the problem is it dissapoints me with what I'd expect in a fallout game.
Fallout, imo, isn't just a post-nuclear apocolyptic rpg game. IMO an even bigger definition of what made Fallout unique was its very VERY in-dept character generation/customization/development. All those skills, stats, perks, etc.
Fallout 3 pretends to use the same system to a certain degree. But in reality alot of them are kind of wasted.. Here's one example
Agility in fallout has always been about action points (and other things too but action points being the biggie), in fallout 3, you play in real time most of the time, so this aspect of agility is wasted, to make matters worse it doesn't affect your run speed. and should you enter that mode (I forget what it's called, the one that is turn-based), it gives you more action points THERE, but that's just the stockpile you begin with..which is like 3 shots and you're out. After which you are FORCED to enter real time mode again because you'll be stuck at 0 action points while the enemy seems to have no concept of action points shooting away at you... Fail.
I haven't played Fallout 3 since like 2 weeks of it being released, I do intend to beat it eventually because I am interested in the story/immersian qualities of the game. But really, when I buy a fallout game, I expect the combat mechanics to try and be as advanced as it once was. I was even willing to compromise for the real time FPS thing, but the fact is they really had no desire to make it feel similar imo.. Perception for example, doesn't increase your accuracy, there is no stat that seems to govern recoil (I don't think anyway), etc.
Kinda like if they made a new valkarie profile for the ps3, you would expect the combat to be like it was in the other games, and that you could break body parts. It's a given, or it's not valkarie profile. If you get a new gradius game, you can expect them to have options in it, etc.
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Having not played Fallout 2, I had nothing else to judge Fallout 3 by, except maybe 3D FPSs like Assault Cube, which is still nothing like it. So I guess I had no room for disappointment. Might try Fallout 2 later on.
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Having not played Fallout 2, I had nothing else to judge Fallout 3 by, except maybe 3D FPSs like Assault Cube, which is still nothing like it. So I guess I had no room for disappointment. Might try Fallout 2 later on.
curse you, guess my pm was a waste lol.
Fallout 1 and 2 were really defined imo by the complex and intricate turn based combat system...which is unusual for an RPG. I mean imagine playing a new armored core game where there is no selection of body parts, generators, radiators, cores, radars, etc.. It'd be "wtf".... Mind you you prob never played armored core >=P.
Anyway. If anybody has played Fallout 3 more recently, did they improve the vats mode in the game? Last I checked it seemed like a gimmick more than anything, you could begin a fight using it, but afterwards you're a sitting duck unless you go back into real time mode. Improving that alone would go along way into making this game desireable to play again for me.
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I'll say in this thread, for the benefit of others reading, what I said in PM:
VATS has the limitation of getting 3 shots in before reverting to regular combat. This, to me, is fine, because honestly using VATS feels like an unfair advantage unless I'm trying to shoot a Raider who's sniping at me from a vantage point. And once VATS ends, you can keep fighting as you normally would - you don't need to wait while your enemy keeps whooping your ass. Not sure about the action points. You're also told ahead of time what chances you have at making a strike at this or that particular part of the enemy's body, which is pretty helpful.
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Wait, I'm fairly certain how many shots you get in VATS depends on what weapon you are holding, how many action points you have (agility), your skill with the weapon you are holding and any added status effects you are inflicted with at the time. Pretty sure you can have more than 3 shots in VATS if you have the right stats (or wielding a light weapon).
*EDIT*
Oh and good luck with the quest to find the kids father, those fire ants are mean little bastards.
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Wait, I'm fairly certain how many shots you get in VATS depends on what weapon you are holding, how many action points you have (agility), your skill with the weapon you are holding and any added status effects you are inflicted with at the time. Pretty sure you can have more than 3 shots in VATS if you have the right stats (or wielding a light weapon).
I'm sure you're right - I've only been playing for a few hours. Just got me a shotgun! Aw yeah.
*EDIT*
Oh and good luck with the quest to find the kids father, those fire ants are mean little bastards.
So I gathered. This is why I spend a lot of time talking to everyone I meet. I know at least where on the fire ants I'm supposed to aim.
One other thing I like is how the baseball bat is the iconic weapon here. Something really satisfying about the sound it makes when it cracks a ghoul's head open.
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what are you talking about there was never a second silly
i mean gee i hope namco makes a sequel to the first game
...Okay, I'll take note of this. Thanks for the warning.
In other news why the hell do Tales games always fake out their endings so much? It gets to the point where you know that the first three times your party says 'Alright guys, this is the final battle' they're dead wrong.
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Wait, I'm fairly certain how many shots you get in VATS depends on what weapon you are holding, how many action points you have (agility), your skill with the weapon you are holding and any added status effects you are inflicted with at the time. Pretty sure you can have more than 3 shots in VATS if you have the right stats (or wielding a light weapon).
*EDIT*
Oh and good luck with the quest to find the kids father, those fire ants are mean little bastards.
point is your action points do not regenerate after they are spent at the same rate as your enemies' do. even if your agility stat is maxxed out and you're using a handgun... Not to mention the effectiveness of some stats (such as agility) is way unbalanced due to how unimportant they become due to the nature of being ported to a real time first person shooter.
I'm not saying the game sucks or anything. It's just not even close to the previous fallouts mechanic wise.. which is fine if they bothered to re-evaluate the stats of your characters. But they try and make it look the same by still having all the exact same stats, skills, and even most of the perks...Many of which just plain don't work in a real time fps situation.
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About FFT for GBDS.. I don't think you mean that "FFTA2" one do you? I got that one, and well.. to be frank it sucks so far >=\.
FFTA2 = teh suxor
FFT I found to be too damn slow, though most people love it anyway. FFTA was a decent, kiddish SRPG that, while slow, wasn't anywhere near as bad. FFTA2 is ungodly slow, plagued by horrible gameplay issues, and is so incredibly pathetic in terms of plot and characters it's almost funny, except that it's sad, because I actually played it through.
Speaking of kiddish RPGs, Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 1 & 2 for the GBA were good. They weren't overwhelmingly mind-blowing, but it combined weapon crafting with a Tales-esque battles system and kiddish but still entertaining plot and characters. I got through the first one again last week on my DS, and I still enjoy it.
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So I gathered. This is why I spend a lot of time talking to everyone I meet. I know at least where on the fire ants I'm supposed to aim.
Shooting their antenna isn't really all that effective though, mainly because the antenna is very small meaning you will waste lots of ammo trying to hit it and I didn't really see it having all that much of an effect. Apparently it's meant to disorient the ant but it sure didn't stop it from turning me into smoldering ash. I had a harder time killing Fire Ants than Super Mutants!
FFTA2 = teh suxor
While I admit this wasn't the best RPG I've played, it didn't really stop me from completing the main storyline. I don't know what kept my attention, I guess I just liked it's charm and style. Which is strange for me since I don't generally have alot of patience for turn based RPG's.
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summon night: craftsword monogatari more like lesbians
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I liked FFTA more than FFT.
Kill me.
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Shooting their antenna isn't really all that effective though, mainly because the antenna is very small meaning you will waste lots of ammo trying to hit it and I didn't really see it having all that much of an effect. Apparently it's meant to disorient the ant but it sure didn't stop it from turning me into smoldering ash. I had a harder time killing Fire Ants than Super Mutants!
Usually I go for the head. If two or three fire ants are coming at me though, hitting the antenna of one can make it attack the other ant(s), which buys me time. But yeah, shooting the antenna of a fireant in a one-on-one fight won't do much but piss him off.
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Good question. I played Tales of Symphonia 1. Pretty cool game.
what are you talking about there was never a second silly
i mean gee i hope namco makes a sequel to the first game
Oh, you're counting Dawn of the New World NOT as a sequel?
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Good question. I played Tales of Symphonia 1. Pretty cool game.
what are you talking about there was never a second silly
i mean gee i hope namco makes a sequel to the first game
Oh, you're counting Dawn of the New World NOT as a sequel?
what is this i have never heard of this game before
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Oh god I love RPGs x_x
among my favourite are Xenogears (PSX), Phantasy Star 4 (Genesis), Shining Force 1 and 2 (Genesis), Shining Force 3 (Saturn), every Final Fantasy =P and obviously Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross..
And i love Guardian Heroes (Saturn), which is a mix of Streets of Rage/Final Fight with RPG elements.. You have HP/MP, can cast spells all while side-scrooling! =)
And in two weeks i'm receiving my Xbox 360 so I'll finally be able to play Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean 4 *____*
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Oh god I love RPGs x_x
among my favourite are Xenogears (PSX), Phantasy Star 4 (Genesis), Shining Force 1 and 2 (Genesis), Shining Force 3 (Saturn), every Final Fantasy =P and obviously Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross..
And i love Guardian Heroes (Saturn), which is a mix of Streets of Rage/Final Fight with RPG elements.. You have HP/MP, can cast spells all while side-scrooling! =)
And in two weeks i'm receiving my Xbox 360 so I'll finally be able to play Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean 4 *____*
zomg I forgot about fantasy star 4. Great game. Only beef with it is the difficulty takes a nosedive into "lol I facerolled and won" mode at the last 1/4 of the game... Let's not even talk about how the only strict healer in the game is the absolute most op healer in rpg history (can regen everyone's skillpoints like 6 times? really?...on addition to his big heals I mean), so even if I choose not to use him for the final dungeon (because doing so feels like cheating he is so good), it's sitll damn easy.. Which is silly cuz early in the game it's definately harder than most, wut.
nm me, it's a great game, I'm just over-critical lol.
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Good question. I played Tales of Symphonia 1. Pretty cool game.
what are you talking about there was never a second silly
i mean gee i hope namco makes a sequel to the first game
Oh, you're counting Dawn of the New World NOT as a sequel?
what is this i have never heard of this game before
OK, NOW it starts getting hilarious...
And once again a topic on MotK gets off-topic!
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Oh god I love RPGs x_x
among my favourite are Xenogears (PSX), Phantasy Star 4 (Genesis), Shining Force 1 and 2 (Genesis), Shining Force 3 (Saturn), every Final Fantasy =P and obviously Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross..
And i love Guardian Heroes (Saturn), which is a mix of Streets of Rage/Final Fight with RPG elements.. You have HP/MP, can cast spells all while side-scrooling! =)
And in two weeks i'm receiving my Xbox 360 so I'll finally be able to play Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean 4 *____*
zomg I forgot about fantasy star 4. Great game. Only beef with it is the difficulty takes a nosedive into "lol I facerolled and won" mode at the last 1/4 of the game... Let's not even talk about how the only strict healer in the game is the absolute most op healer in rpg history (can regen everyone's skillpoints like 6 times? really?...on addition to his big heals I mean), so even if I choose not to use him for the final dungeon (because doing so feels like cheating he is so good), it's sitll damn easy.. Which is silly cuz early in the game it's definately harder than most, wut.
nm me, it's a great game, I'm just over-critical lol.
But it's all true.
Raja ruins the game. Ataraxia restores everyone's MP. LOL infinite spells on the last boss. I usually fight the last boss with only 4 chars anyway =p even Gryz makes the game too easy
My fav part is the Air castle because if you're not properly leveled up Xe-A-Thoul and Lashiec are the hardest bosses..
After that the game becomes a total joke, if you ignore the two guardians of the towers in Rykros and sometimes Darkforce inside that tower in Garubek Tower.
Also Zio's battle can be hard if you haven't overleveled on the sandworms (which i always did anyway >_>)
PS4 is easily the game i've finished most times, but it's been at least 10 years i haven't even touched it, weird how i haven't forgotten anyone's names =P
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And i love Guardian Heroes (Saturn), which is a mix of Streets of Rage/Final Fight with RPG elements.. You have HP/MP, can cast spells all while side-scrooling! =)
OH GOD YES SOMEONE ELSE KNOWS ABOUT THIS GAME.
Didn't think of mentioning it here since I wasn't sure how far it qualified as an RPG, but I ADORED THIS GAME TOO. I played it so damn much that the case snapped in half.
Too bad the GBA sequel was fucking horrible.
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OH GOD YES SOMEONE ELSE KNOWS ABOUT THIS GAME.
Didn't think of mentioning it here since I wasn't sure how far it qualified as an RPG, but I ADORED THIS GAME TOO. I played it so damn much that the case snapped in half.
Too bad the GBA sequel was fucking horrible.
Oh hey, we meet again. Guardian Heroes was and still is the best 2D/2.5D beat-'em-up ever created. It was the 2nd game I bought for my Saturn along with Worms, and I still fire it up from time-to-time even now. The VS mode was awesome as well, even if the character balance was fairly lol. Never played the GBA 'sequel' thank God.
For the sake of staying vaguely on topic, Dragon Force and Mystaria (both Saturn SRPGs) rock.
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never seen a GBA sequel... I had no idea. also it had one of my favourites intro movies... it was awesome!
I always played the mage.. Saturn games are often forgotten :s
Oh i forgot Beyond the Beyond for the PSX.. that was an awesome RPG :D
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Geeze, I play a lot of RPGs but I mostly stick with popular titles and 'secially Square's. Even Super Mario RPG, as awesome as it was, is starting to become a sleeper hit so it's really hard to say. This thread does bring a few new things into my radar but not a whole ton to be honest.
Since we're not being purists about it though, I love the Escape Velocity series. Escape Velocity Nova (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/) is the only shareware game I've registered to date and is advertised to have RPG elements. I'll admit there are some like the shops but there really aren't too many conventional RPG mechanics and plays a bit more like a super advanced version of Asteroids, kinda. On the other hand, it captures the heart of what an RPG really should be; that is, allowing you to play virtually any role you like in its immersive sci-fi setting. You can choose to be a part of one of any of the six main storylines and twelve subplots, as well as having a plethora of side options available to you like space trading, piracy and courier service. Getting even further into the being anything you want to be aspect, the game has an expandability aspect, which allows for add on content like plug-ins and total conversions, if you find yourself bored with the regular game. I've spent many an hour, attempting total galactic conquest.
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Oh i forgot Beyond the Beyond for the PSX.. that was an awesome RPG :D
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Disgaea. That is all.
Also, Battle Moon Wars is pretty damn awesome. It's the only game where you can have a psychotic maid dope up Fem!King Arthur before she obliterates Getter Robo with a giant sword laser (among other things), and that's got to count for something.
Of course, you'll only enjoy it half as much if you haven't read pretty much every Nasuverse canon work in existence, seen all the Kara no Kyoukai movies to date, and played Melty Blood. Super Robot Wars experience not required, but it sure does help.
Saber Lily was great in the first 3 Acts of my 3rd playthrough...then Act 4 came along and she can't hit anything with Caliburn anymore ;_;. Magical Amber is awesome all-around though, she's the Basara Nekki of BMW!
I'm just sad that it's all over. No more Fate/Zero characters aside from Kritisugu and Irie. And Fake Assassin...poor Fake Assassin ;_;
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I didn't see the Secret of Mana, Seiken Densetsu 3 and Secret of Evermore... I think they were the first wave of action RPG's. Then again, I could always be wrong. Still, I enjoy them and I still think every gamer that likes action RPG's should play them.
Seiken Densetsu 3 is probably my most played RPG of all time. I once played two games of it. One with Duran, Kevin and Hawk and the other with Lise, Angela and Charlie.
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Oh i forgot Beyond the Beyond for the PSX.. that was an awesome RPG :D
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er... what o.o
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I didn't see the Secret of Mana, Seiken Densetsu 3 and Secret of Evermore... I think they were the first wave of action RPG's. Then again, I could always be wrong. Still, I enjoy them and I still think every gamer that likes action RPG's should play them.
Seiken Densetsu 3 is probably my most played RPG of all time. I once played two games of it. One with Duran, Kevin and Hawk and the other with Lise, Angela and Charlie.
I have a legit copy of sd3 with a real super famicom to play it with >=)
Obviously I enjoy the game alot, but from an unbiased perspective, I can't help but notice that the boss battles are kinda not really action rpg.. I mean almost all boss attacks have no element of dodging to them, they just home in on you and attack, or cast spells which you cannot avoid. So you're still basically fighting an ordinary rpg, only diff is the movement in and out of combat do not have different screens.
I'd love it if that game had bosses that were potentially much more powerful, that could only be beaten if you had some fancy footwork dodging their attacks or whatever.
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I didn't see the Secret of Mana, Seiken Densetsu 3 and Secret of Evermore... I think they were the first wave of action RPG's. Then again, I could always be wrong. Still, I enjoy them and I still think every gamer that likes action RPG's should play them.
Seiken Densetsu 3 is probably my most played RPG of all time. I once played two games of it. One with Duran, Kevin and Hawk and the other with Lise, Angela and Charlie.
I have a legit copy of sd3 with a real super famicom to play it with >=)
Obviously I enjoy the game alot, but from an unbiased perspective, I can't help but notice that the boss battles are kinda not really action rpg.. I mean almost all boss attacks have no element of dodging to them, they just home in on you and attack, or cast spells which you cannot avoid. So you're still basically fighting an ordinary rpg, only diff is the movement in and out of combat do not have different screens.
I'd love it if that game had bosses that were potentially much more powerful, that could only be beaten if you had some fancy footwork dodging their attacks or whatever.
True. Most of the game isn't really about movement(well, save Secret of Evermore)... the movement is pretty sluggish there and the enemies will most likely hit you anyway so I don't bother... usually. Still, I'd still play it as a ordinary RPG.
But yeah I agree with you that it could have been better with more emphasis on movement.