Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)

[shadowbringer]

thoughts
- no Mima this time ;(
- no Last Words.. maybe Overdrives replace them? (must check. Still, IN had 17 LWs..)
- music and characters are okay (not bad), but patterns weren't impressive.. (stages look a bit more interesting, well-paced than most other games, though)
- scoring doesn't seem to give many elements to consider (just play as flawlessly as you can, use bombs as resources for getting trances, trances for raising point value, etc), just making a mistake doesn't seem to be overly punitive (restart-inducing) like in MoF. What I mean, is that the scoring here (though not perfect-play inducing) doesn't feel intuitive (at least it doesn't emphasize grazing as much, maybe). There doesn't seem to be many opportunities for raising the Trance meter as fast as in other games, too (Crimzon Clover and DOJ come to mind; for some reason, Crimzon Clover's showers of stars in Simple Mode or Break Meter did convince me that scoring through raising the meter was a worthy risk ).
- latter bosses don't even seem to give much room for being point-blanked for spirits

[The Wanderer]

Hey
on the credits I saw "October 2011" What does that mean?

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Is it just me or

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when Mamizou turns into Reimu, she keeps her tail. I don't know if my eyes are playing tricks on me but the Reimu sprite seems to have the tanuki tail.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

Not sure if this counts as spoilers, but I'll tag it anyway to be careful.

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Is it just me, or does the danmaku in this game look rather visually dull? There's no particularly vibrant colors or patterns or anything until significantly late in the game. Most of the bullets are just kind of there.

Given that the danmaku visuals are one of my favorite parts of the games themselves, I find this rather disappointing. It might just be a matter of personal taste in danmaku patterns, though.

[Zengar Zombolt]

Is it just me or

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when Mamizou turns into Reimu, she keeps her tail. I don't know if my eyes are playing tricks on me but the Reimu sprite seems to have the tanuki tail.

She does.

[Chronojet ⚙ Dragon]

Specifically,

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Seiga's

Boss Theme.

Is anyone else hearing a part of

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Necro-Fantasy/Fantasia

in there?

I noticed it first :V

[RegalStar]

Hey
on the credits I saw "October 2011" What does that mean?

ZUN doesn't know his English month names well.

[Aqua Soo]

Reading the character official profiles... All this mention of Buddhism and no Byakuren?

[shadowken9]

Reading the character official profiles... All this mention of Buddhism and no Byakuren?

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The final boss was calling Byakuren a dark lord for siding with the Youkai. Also apparently Byakuren was against her ressurrection.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

She does.

...

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Mamizou

is my fave character now.  :getdown:

[Moerin]

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The final boss was calling Byakuren a dark lord for siding with the Youkai. Also apparently Byakuren was against her ressurrection.

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Byakuren is now Voldemort! >.>

Also man I love these new characters already.  Even if the extra boss looks phenomenally goofy.

[The Wanderer]

Ghost Lead is the only one with noticeable ZUN trumpets
while other themes
I can't even hear ZUN trumpets at all even if they are modified  :V

[AJS]

Also man I love these new characters already.  Even if the extra boss looks phenomenally goofy.

Ahhh yes.  When I first saw her, I was just like "......what? :V"

But now, that "phenomenal goofiness" is part of the reason why I like her so much now. xD

[Serena]

Stage 4.

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I love Yoshika. Even more.

And am I the only one who thinks that the artwork for most characters is actually quite good now?
And normal mode's not good enough anymore,  gonna make myself 1cc hard in order to unlock Extra.

Also where are replays stored now?

[Arcengal]

I'm still getting that stupid error where the trance background stays after the trance is over.
Am I really going to have to just upgrade my computer? I've installed directX up to date and reinstalling the game does nothing.

[Cadmas]

Stage 4 so much eye rape.

[Khaotic Ace]

Stage 4 so much eye rape.

BUT IT'S JUST THE WAY I LIKE IT.

Also, geez. I am such a failure... I can't pass Stage 3 without using a continue on normal. :c

[vgperson]

A-one, a-two, a-three... ten! Ten desires! Wah, hah, hah!

(So yeah, that should be all the scenarios translated now. I may go back and

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make Mamizou's dialogue even more "old farty" because it really is.

)

[Suikama]

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Stage 6: For a Prize Resembling Peace -
Reimu: There are TONS of divine spirits here! They're like stars in the sky.
Reimu: They're kind of, er...
Reimu: Not all that foreboding, actually.
Reimu: Was I mistaken?
Miko: I have been observing your actions thus far.
Miko: What a magnificent human. I could learn a thing or two from you.
Miko: But then again, I wonder if there are any humans whom I couldn't learn from...
Reimu: How long have you been watching me?
Miko: I've been watching since back before you were born
Reimu: Hm?
Miko: You may work as a youkai exterminator, but I see you as a supporter of youkai.
Miko: Are you not allies with the youkai monk and her ilk who opposed my resurrection?
Reimu: You mean Byakuren? My eternal rival (in terms of religion)?
Reimu: But more importantly, what do you mean you've been watching since way back in the past?
Miko: In life, I could understand the words of ten people talking simultaneously.
Miko: Having gained the power of faith from my long sleep, I can now also hear people's desires.
Miko: Desire tells of a person's true nature.
Miko: If one can understand ten desires, they understand all of humanity.
Miko: As they are in the past, the present, and even the future...
Miko: I am sure that next, you will say something like -
Reimu: Whoa, whoa, hold on a second!
Reimu: Would you let me talk?! I mean, I came all this way!
Miko: ...That won't be necessary.
Miko: The reason being, your actions are all too predictable.
Miko: Yes, you will bare your fangs at me. For no particular reason.
Reimu: Exactly! Even though, yes, there's no good reason!
Miko: I have awaited the time when humans denied my existence, and I became legend!
Miko: So try to defeat me, and I shall become as a living legend!

The final boss knows all :V

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

The final boss knows all :V

The final boss is a stalker.  :V

[Moerin]

I can just see it now: "Ceiling

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Miko

is watching you masturbate". >.>

Although I admit it's interesting to have a character who is

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possibly omniscient.

  It brings up so many possibilities, eheh~

[Suikama]

Also seems like the real trouble makers are still

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the main characters :V

Except for Youmu :V

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Mamizou: Wah, hah, hah... Let's see how long you can keep that attitude!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39tcgd-pYGo

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Youmu: Er, well, I'm dead, but...
Yoshika: You're DEAD?!
Yoshika: Dying isn't good! That's not good at all!

Gotta love Zun dialogue

I can just see it now: "Ceiling

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Miko

is watching you masturbate". >.>

Although I admit it's interesting to have a character who is

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possibly omniscient.

  It brings up so many possibilities, eheh~

Actually...

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Youmu: I got in by lying to that person about being a hermit...
Youmu: But even so, I've never seen a grave so full of life before.
Youmu: Plus, these divine spiirts... well, no, these appear to be plain old desires taking form.
Youmu: Spirits of desire... They're vulgar spirits considered a type of vengeful spirit.
Youmu: Who would gain from gathering such things...?
Miko: Incorrect. They gathered here of their own accord.
Miko: Desire accumulates around me, as it has in every era.
Miko: For day after day, I have been listening to ten desires simultaneously.
Youmu: ...
Miko: ...What? You seem to lack two desires.
Miko: From the ten you should have, you lack your attachment to life and envy of death...
Youmu: Sorry about that, but I'm already half-dead.
Miko: Is that so? Then are we companions?
Youmu: Eh?
Miko: Are you not a Taoist with the ultimate goal of everlasting youth?
Miko: Or no, perhaps you're already a Shikaisen...
Youmu: No, no, no...
Youmu: I denied that I was a hermit earlier.
Miko: There's no need to hide anything from me.
Miko: I understand everything. I understand from having seen human desires.
Miko: Unfortunately, as you are lacking in desires, you are incomplete...
Youmu: No, see, you've got it all wrong!
Miko: If we were fellows, you would know what will happen next, yes?
Youmu: Well, I don't!
Miko: We fight as fellows who were resurrected for eternal youth, studiers in the Tao!
Miko: Now try to defeat me!
Miko: And I shall be resurrected as a statesman of eternal youth!

....So much for all knowing :V

[Serela]

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Seiga calls Jesus a pagan prophet :V:V:V

Also, I wonder if the final boss can even

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see Koishi's desires and stuff? I suppose so, but it's interesting to think about.

Anyway, TD (or 10D?) is super fun IMO.

[Grimarg]

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I can totally see her and Satori messing with everybody's minds

[Gpop]

Also, I wonder if the final boss can even

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see Koishi's desires and stuff? I suppose so, but it's interesting to think about.

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I wouldn't even think Koishi would have any anymore since, according to Patchouli, she has "achieved Satori" :V

[Formless God]

Played with it a bit (read: once). It didn't blow me away as hard as GFW, the danmaku also seems to be a step back from GFW (

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Extra's non-spells, that's quite some intricate pattern there

). It's not bad, though, I'm definitely enjoying it as much as 10/11/12.
Music-wise, I think

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S1, S2, S5 and S6

are not as strong as UFO's; the rest is very nice.

[Savory]

Just 1cc'd it on Easy with Reimu.

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Funny that I had so much trouble with Yoshika and Seiga (a tad), but Futo and Miko I managed to flawlessly defeat with no lives lost. Did I mention I LOVED Seiga/Yoshika's battle theme? Futo's theme I also like because it has an old Japanese feel to it. I should attempt Normal again (even though I probably won't be able to beat the tanooki even if I manage to 1cc it on that difficulty).

And some people mentioned the game being a bit short. I felt that way too. Not sure why. I was more than a bit surprised when I got to the final stage seemingly quickly.

[wailofthebanshee]

All this mention of Buddhism and no Byakuren?

Thank god for that.

[Savory]

LOL @ Byakuren the Dark Lord. xD

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

LOL @ Byakuren the Dark Lord. xD

"Reimu I am your father"