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A new Touhou Print book got announced in the latest Strange Creators of Outer World Volume (Which hasn't been translated yet).
It is said that it will be similar to Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red. (I.E. Newspaper articles.) This has not been verified yet.
Release date is March 30th.
(Source is Hungry Bookworm's tumblr blog. (http://hungry0bookworm.tumblr.com/) She knows Japanese and is mostly a reliable source.)
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(http://i.imgur.com/P3h6MfX.jpg)
The book is already open for pre-order at Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E6%96%87%E6%9E%9C%E7%9C%9F%E5%A0%B1-Alternative-Facts-Eastern-Utopia/dp/4048928627).
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The tagline in the image above is "I wonder what kind of book it is..."
The main title 東方文果真報 is probably pronounced "Tōhō Bunka Shinpō".
Explanation:
The previous Aya-themed book and games were named after her notebook 文花帖 Bunka-chō.
帖 chō here is an old-fashioned word for notebooks, often used in titles. For example, detective stories set in Edo era are often called 捕物帖 torimono-chō, "[the thief-taker's] memoirs of arrests".
The common word bunka 文化 means "culture"; Aya replaced the second kanji with 花 "flower", turning it into "flowers of culture/literature/writing".
Now for the new book here, the second kanji in bunka has been replaced by 果 "fruit; end; consequence".
Aya's given name is written 文; Hatate's given name is not written in kanji, but her name kanji is actually embedded in the title of her own newspaper, which is 果.
Therefore the 文果 part of the title, in addition to meaning "fruits of culture/literature/writing", also signifies both Aya and Hatate. (It is also a real female given name, usually pronounced "Ayaka".)
On the other hand, 真報 shinpō is a play on 新報 "new report", often used in the titles of Meiji-era newspapers such as Fukuzawa Yukichi's "Current Events" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukuzawa_Yukichi), replacing 新 "new" with 真 "true" for the trendy "alternative facts" theme.
On the whole, the title can be translated as "Aya and Hatate's True Report of the East".
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>alternative facts
oh shit we gettin' political commentary in here :V
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>alternative facts
oh shit we gettin' political commentary in here :V
Touhou has had political commentary since at least Imperishable Night. If you use a broader definition, ZUN dedicating his music CD to people who were flying away from Japan was also political. It's an unavoidable part of sincere creative expression, though Touhou fans may not always notice them due to unfamiliarity with the subject. It's now in your face becomes the spotlight has turned towards America :) . The actual content of the book probably will still focus on Japanese topics though.
To be specific, he has actually been voicing his concern for the political situation in America in recent podcasts. And because God shares ZUN's sense of black humor, he had to announce the most frivolous thing, an official EoSD skin for LINE when the vote-counting was beginning to indicate a Trump victory:
ZUN: (https://twitter.com/korindo/status/796212066470137856) This is coinciding with what seems will be the election of Mr. Trump, but before releasing the second sticker set, we have made some LINE skins. The first skin is for Touhou Koumakyou. Be sure to change your image if your favorite color is scarlet.
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Dat subtitle. Hahahaha. It's Zun's way to make fun of Trump.
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Touhou has had political commentary since at least Imperishable Night. If you use a broader definition, ZUN dedicating his music CD to people who were flying away from Japan was also political. It's an unavoidable part of sincere creative expression, though Touhou fans may not always notice them due to unfamiliarity with the subject.
To be specific, he has actually been voicing his concern for the political situation in America in recent podcasts.
That's awesome. I officially like ZUN even more now. Can you please give me some examples of his political statements?
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Dat subtitle. Hahahaha. It's Zun's way to make fun of Trump.
...since both side of the political faction throws that term around at each other (and both sides are just as guilty of it as the other), it's really could be interpret as making fun of either sides
Let's interpret Zun as neutral at least to avoid potential flame
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I can't wait for this book to come out on the 30th of March. I wonder what topics it will feature this time....
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And how much fanon will be destroyed this time.
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Ideally, all of it, imo
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And how much fanon will be destroyed this time.
Let's be more specific with that.
Uh, now i realize i'm not as close to the fanon as before but let's see, uhh...
Junko's "Are you watching Chang'e?!"-obsessed personality; she being a close ("mother"-like) person to Clownpiece.
How close are Junko and Hecatia.
How close are Ringo and Seiran.
Benben and Yatsuhashi something something (considering they are some of the most ignored characters). Like, giving them a less vaguely-defined personality.
How close are Raiko and the Tsukumo sisters.
Add something to Wakasagihime's, Sekibanki's, and Kagerou's collective relationship.
How active Seija is (eg. making petty pranks on everyone).
Sagume's frequent slips of tongue (already known to be purely fanon, just to make it more clear in this book).
Doremy's amount of work (or how much she [mis]uses her skills)
Add more, let's see how many can we predict.
Less on destroying fanon, i want to see more about the lunarians and their day-to-day lives. Wonder if we get something about the Watatsuki sisters?
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That title!
ZUN, my hat goes off to you.
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Maybe we get to know somthinf more about the Grassroot Youkai Network.
Also, i read it's meant to give a bit more space to characters who rarely appear, so hopefully pre-DDC or even pre-MoF minor characters will get some love.
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Maybe we get to know somthinf more about the Grassroot Youkai Network.
Mainly what im looking forward to in this release. I've been wondering when we will get more info or lore about Grassroot Youkai Network. Hopefully it won't be a let down.
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And how much fanon will be destroyed this time.
oh boy...
Im still trying to get over the bombshells being dropped in Forbidden scrollery
still i kind of want another info book like PMiS or SoPM but i guess stranger creators of outer world are taking the place of that :|
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still i kind of want another info book like PMiS or SoPM
I'd love another of those, they're some of my favourite print works simply because they expand on all the characters in a mostly objective and factual way.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C67nkt2XAAEtV4t.jpg:large)
Cover and back cover. https://twitter.com/_nyogi/status/841864809276682240 (https://twitter.com/_nyogi/status/841864809276682240)
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Is that Clownpiece with a completely different outfit in the back?
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Teasing images of the upcoming book's contents.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51543254.html (NSFW)
Is that Clownpiece with a completely different outfit in the back?
And Hecatia, with a different outfit.
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Is that Clownpiece with a completely different outfit in the back?
well she only had that outfit to tick off the lunarians so probably
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That isn't accurate. ZUN describes in SC vol.1 how Clownpiece's design was influenced by the American flag, but the details of how that might have happened (if/when/how she saw it, if it's even actually on the moon anywhere, etc) are completely unknown and probably won't ever be looked into further. There have already been several points in the setting from years back where the existence of the American flag on the moon is put into question. It really wasn't rigorously planned.
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Is that Clownpiece with a completely different outfit in the back?
Very sure that's Hecatia.
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The usual Aya antics are very much anticipated, but I'm also very intrigued by the Agatha Q. Ristie excerpt.
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I just hope people don't start screaming lies and slander when we get info on the newer characters because Aya is in charge of things. It's bad enough with Akyuu already...
I can't stand those people, wanting their fanon beliefs to stomp all over canon...
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Oh god, i really hope this doesn't almost kill the fandom like SoPM almost did.
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I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and I'm somewhat grateful to be honest.
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SoPM didn't even have anything all that controversial with the fandom. Perhaps the rather bleak interpretation of Koishi was the most "extreme" thing.
There was also the whole casually mentioning Eirin being a god thing, but that was only news because the english fandom dragged years behind due to inaccurate information.
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Trolling Creator: When SOPM came out, a lot of the profiles subverted the moe treatment many characters got (Nitori is not a shy kappa, she's a racist asshole; Hina is not someone you want to be near), and in the interviews following after, ZUN claimed Kisume - another shy youkai - is a Serial Killer who decapitates people and throws skulls at others and that Tenshi was misunderstood and bullied by everyone. In case anyone doubted what SOPM had to say about Nitori, her dialogue in Hopeless Masquerade is extremely different from her dialogue in Mountain of Faith (and even Subterranean Animism, where she encourages the player to beat up their opponents), which consists of insulting her opponents and openly bragging about being a scammer. The only person she isn't mean to who isn't a customer is Marisa, her old comrade, and even then it's pretty neutral.
Though the Kisume remark was made loosely (likely as a joke, not definitive Word of God), and while SOPM's articles written by Akyuu might be questionable, Hopeless Masquerade supports some of it.
I suppose.
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That quote is filled with so much drivel I don't even know where to begin. TVTropes please.
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Tenshi was never an actual masochist, that was pure fandom exaggerating her lines for kicks but the western side somehow took that as truth.
Nitori is a bit more complex but I don't think her "shift" was nearly as dramatic as Youmu from PCB/IaMP into IN. And both can be explained easily enough. (Nitori cooperates with anyone as long as it benefits her, Youmu is shy and lacks confidence unless following Yuyuko's orders)
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ZUN always comes up with more interesting character writing than the fandom does anyway, so while it's not healthy for the popularity of the series I always like seeing fan depictions and relationships get written out.
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Oops i should have explained what i meant. Well, heres a post by Iced Fairy that explains what i was talking about (http://icedfairy.tumblr.com/post/158460409246/the-dark-age-of-touhou-or-why-youll-be-reading), but the short of it is that SoPM basically destroyed alot of people's conceptions of certain characters (Like, as mentioned, Nitori.), and set up a "Religious War" that ALOT of people were excepting to be something other than a overly dramatic popularity contest. Which HM was (IMHO that was a good thing). That, and a broken mess of an game. Oh and then Kancolle(or as its better know as, Japanese Empire Propaganda But With Cute Ship Girls) happened.
Aaaaand rereading the post that i got this from i JUST realized that i massively over exaggerated things by saying that it "Almost destroyed the fandom." really, what it really did was make it smaller and make the Taoists, Buddhists, and Chireidens alot less popular. Sorry.
So really, it didn't kill fandom, more that it caused a giant backlash towards how certain characters were seen and made them almost unusable in the fandom (Which is more the fandoms fault, honestly).
Nitori is a bit more complex but I don't think her "shift" was nearly as dramatic as Youmu from PCB/IaMP into IN.
What character shift are you talking about? Youmoo's behavior in IaMP seemed pretty consistent to her later appearances for me.
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Well, after reading yours and Iced Fairy's post, i can't help but blame the fandom, they brought it upon themselves, honestly. I've read the scenario from both MoF and SA and compared it to SoPM, and nothing really shocked me. It was the fandom's fault to misinterpret things and try to deeply dig into a character's personnality with only as much as an ingame dialogue. If i take MoF's depiction of Nitori, as en example, it only says she's a shy geek that change her manner of speech and run away from humans, i don't see how she couldn't be that nasty overall after you get to know her.
Not to mention, SoPM is supposed to be from the point of view of a human villager, who's likely biased towards humans and dislikes youkai ( refers to how humans like Reimu and Marisa are listed under " heroic legends " ).
Anyway i hope i'm not too off topic and that i didn't misinterpret things either. Even though i'v read a ton of works, i'm not in Touhou since very long so i guess you guys know about it well more than I do, but i can't help but think that the fandom was just pissed that their ideal interpretation was'nt was Zun planned for the characters.
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What character shift are you talking about? Youmoo's behavior in IaMP seemed pretty consistent to her later appearances for me.
It seemed consistent to me as well, although I've seen more than a few people note how the edge of her "I WILL CUT YOU" fixation was gradually dulled by things like having a load of snow dumped on her in CoLA and being scared by other phantoms and bad horror stories.
And Iced Fairy's post is a lot more recent than I imagined it would be. Maybe it's just because I have the privilege of seeing the Japanese fanbase that it's solely what I focus on (with a few exceptions since I started my new circle), but plenty of people seem to like the later games' setting adjustments just fine. Kokoro in particular helped make Miko more popular (and Byakuren to a lesser extent). And whether because of inertia or not, a lot of people ignore certain points (like Momiji not liking Aya in canon) to do what they want to do and no one pitches a fit or whatever. The SDM crew is still overwhelmingly popular but if anything is to blame it's not necessarily ZUN futzing with recent canon.
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Honestly, I am happy to learn anything about the characters, especially the new ones. It is bit too early for a compendium and the mangas aren't really helping the lesser characters, so I take what I get.
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A lot of these problem areas are also inherently cultural; ZUN using ideas from and references to religion, traditions, cultural icons, and the like, is guaranteed to mess people up unfamiliar. This is not helped by ZUN's tendency to write these things in without explicitly pointing them out. The english fandom, and probably overseas fandoms in general, are pretty apt to keeping to themselves due to the language barrier, and we don't have a whole lot of people that can bring over knowledge from the Japanese side. That being said, I think that as a fandom we're slowly improving and catching up to speed. At least I feel that way.
I agree with Forza. I don't tread quite as much as he does into the Japanese fandom, obviously, but there does not seem to be a particular aversion to later works. There was definitely a drop in new fans that bottomed between UFO and TD, but there was a distinct rise since that's been pushing somewhat consistently.
(http://i.imgur.com/koEaO30m.png) (http://i.imgur.com/koEaO30.png)
Note that for the last two popularity polls, which had the favorite works poll, LoLK was 6th, DDC 8th, UFO 9th. TD was 12th and 13th and is probably the only one consistently considered a bit weaker, and given that the TD characters aren't very popular with male Touhou fans either, it's kind of expected.
Something else shown by the popularity polls that helps explain the prominence of early works, is that game ownership throughout the series is essentially linear.
(http://i.imgur.com/k7oBr1Km.png) (http://i.imgur.com/k7oBr1K.png)
One would expect that there's even a small relationship between game ownership and the date people got into the series, but since it seems the trend is that people start at the beginning and go through sequentially, we get this startlingly steady drop in which games have been played.
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So in summary, is the series's popularity falling or not?
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Hi everyone.
Do you have other graphs like these ones Drake? It's really interesting. (And are there some with the titles in english?)
Did SoPM had such an influence as Iced Fairy said? It seemed to me that the fandom didn't follow very precisely the canon when it didn't please them (the Aya / Momiji relationship for exemple).
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What character shift are you talking about? Youmoo's behavior in IaMP seemed pretty consistent to her later appearances for me.
iamp nerd here
iamp youmu is _very_ cut first, ask questions later, particularly in her own storyline, and it's kind of a meme amongst japanese fans that it's her most dangerous incarnation by far.
here's some choice story quotes:
Marisa: 「で、何のようだ？幽霊諸君。」 "So, what do you want, ghostly one?"
Youmu:「取り敢えず、斬りに来た。話はそれからだ。」"For now, I came to cut. Talking starts from there."
Patchouli: 「誰？」 (Who's there?)
Youmu: 「斬る。」 (Cut you.)
In SWR she has this win quote:
「何かすっきりしない時は取り敢えず斬ってみるって事ね！」
"It's like, whenever I'm not feeling clear-headed, I'll just cut something up!"
she's generally considered to have considerably chilled out from in onwards, but iamp youmu's disposition is basically that if she's feeling like there's a problem, and you're in front of her, she's going to cut you.
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on a side note: as someone who more actively follows the jp touhou scene way more than the en one these days
i don't get the fuss about sopm. even when it came out i didn't think more than a small handful of people cared. characters are contradicted continuously in this franchise and fans haven't exactly stopped from interpreting them the way they like one way or another. and people definitely like the new games' content. (i quite like the casts of ddc/llok, personally, and i was not a big fan of ufo/10d)
people like to make up a lot of pointless drama where there really isn't any because it's more fun than thinking people get along fine, which they do, so i think people are drastically overrating how much various 'factions' exist and fight. people take what they like from it, ignore what they don't, and move on. touhou's a very, very diverse franchise with a little something for everyone and zun's own attitude of not taking it too seriously pans over to fans interpreting things how they want.
also, like, kancolle taking a large portion of the population is more a blessing than anything else. some things to note:
* the population that kancolle took is one that drifts from Big Thing to Big Thing, and is also generally an audience that was drawn in not by interest in the franchise or its setting, but by memes, videos, and doujinshi-related content. wouldn't be surprised if kemono friends took a big chunk out of it this year.
* ... and, of particular note for disappearing fans: porn. here's a chart showing a breakdown of tables by franchise at c91 (http://ascii.jp/elem/000/001/408/1408708/img.html), blue bars are 'for all ages,' red bars are 'for men.' (green is 'other' so i'm assuming 'for women' and 'not for human consumption') top row is kancolle, second row is touhou.
* ... which, you'll note, touhou is still the second most popular franchise by doujin content at comiket, either in total or when counting only all-ages works, and has not shrunk at all from c90.
so, touhou as a whole is distinctly *less* oriented towards a certain breed of otaku now, which has opened room for far more diverse creators and interest in the actual touhou franchise than had existed even during touhou's peak. i see a lot more women involved now than i did even a few years ago! it's actually really nice to see, honestly.
the franchise is not dying, it's showing surprising health and resilience. y'all need to chill out and enjoy your silly frilly dress girl series more casually. also: play more iamp.
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Another thing that might explain the reduced number of Touhou circles at Comiket was the organizers wanting to give newer franchises an opportunity to flourish, like they did for Touhou a few years ago. Touhou doesn't need to dominate Comiket anymore anyway since they have tons of doujin events across the country with yearly attendance improvements. Moreover, a lot of the newcomers in Japan are middle/high school-age kids, which is a good sign for sustaining the fandom.
And even on the western side, the fact that there are now Touhou fangames on PS4 is something that would be unthinkable a couple of years ago.
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So in summary, is the series's popularity falling or not?
It's on the rise currently. More people than ever are reading the written works; FS placed 7th in the 12th and 13th works polls with the lowest ratio of 1st-votes out of the top ten, indicating mass appeal (WaHH was 12th). The manga are also quite popular with the female fanbase, which helps explain some small rise in that demographic. Bunka Shinpou is coming, AoCF is coming; I imagine if th16 comes soon it'll be a good time.
Do you have other graphs like these ones Drake? It's really interesting. (And are there some with the titles in english?)
I make them from my compiling of results from the popularity polls. What information I end up compiling and what I decide to make into a graph are entirely dependent on whimsy, but the goal is to have enough whimsy over a long period of time to cover a lot of data.
The titles of the works in the graphs are partially because they're taken straight from the poll and partially because honestly it's starting to get easier for me to read those than the subtitle acronyms, which when all stacked together just end up looking like a meaningless jumble of letters (AFiEU? Really?)
Did SoPM had such an influence as Iced Fairy said? It seemed to me that the fandom didn't follow very precisely the canon when it didn't please them (the Aya / Momiji relationship for exemple).
Like I said, that's largely the english fandom thing blowing things out of proportion. Iced Fairy's post uses very strong wordings and a viewpoint that's coming almost entirely from the english fandom's reaction, and I disagree with many of the premises. What bits and pieces of the series people decide to use or not use for derivative works is not fazed (at least directly) by new canon messing up those ideas. Derivative works tend to simply ignore the unfriendly/terrible parts of characters unless the work fits it, and there's no real problem with that.
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I make them from my compiling of results from the popularity polls. What information I end up compiling and what I decide to make into a graph are entirely dependent on whimsy, but the goal is to have enough whimsy over a long period of time to cover a lot of data.
The titles of the works in the graphs are partially because they're taken straight from the poll and partially because honestly it's starting to get easier for me to read those than the subtitle acronyms, which when all stacked together just end up looking like a meaningless jumble of letters (AFiEU? Really?)
Well if you feel like you have enough data someday, I think a lot of people would be interested! It's a nice indication of the popularity of later works. (And I have to insist if you make them public one day than an english version would be appreciated ;) (or even just the numbers of the games which are I admit nicer to handle than the acronyms)). Thanks for your response!
All of this is making me quite optimistic about the future of the series. I think than the popularity of such games as Undertale or Nier Automata for example may also help introduce the bullet hell genre to the western public.
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This is looking interesting from what i read on tv tropes forum. Also, is it true that it includes an actual piece of story other than articles and interviews?
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* ... and, of particular note for disappearing fans: porn. here's a chart showing a breakdown of tables by franchise at c91 (http://ascii.jp/elem/000/001/408/1408708/img.html), blue bars are 'for all ages,' red bars are 'for men.' (green is 'other' so i'm assuming 'for women' and 'not for human consumption') top row is kancolle, second row is touhou.
Can I ask if you have charts like that for precious years? I always thought we had a low amount of porn even before we had a competitor. I've been looking for statistics like these since I had an argument with a fan of our competitor who claimed that porn gave them staying power.
Not to mention it's a source of pride to not be reliant on such things - given that I'm somewhat disappointed that the porn ratio for Vocaloid has gone up.
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And here we have it (rips by Clarste):
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(http://i.imgur.com/3XRgdFz.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/ENJ52LT.png)
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It appears to be a variety gossip & tabloid magazine, containing articles, interviews, ads, and whatnot.
*Some editorials, some interviews, etc
*Marisa advertising her store
*3-page spread of tengu in seductive poses
*Miko advocating for health & fitness doing a copy-pasted Trump speech, "Mexicans" replaced with "youkai", "Build a wall around the human village"
*Wild speculation about what Sagume is doing at Eientei
*Sumireko's first visions of Gensokyo
Can't wait for translations.
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The Donald Dump thing was actually a speech about health and fitness. Aya just lazily copy and pasted an speech from the outside world and called it a day. Just another reason why she's a shitty journalist and, really, all around a asshole.
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The Donald Dump thing was actually a speech about health and fitness. Aya just lazily copy and pasted an speech from the outside world and called it a day. Just another reason why she's a shitty journalist and all around asshole.
lol
See? The fake news spreads itself already.
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(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/906/289/409.png)
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I think this is the most memey official touhou work yet!
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The SDM ad is adorable:
Why don't you apply at the most stylish work place in Gensoyko?
Scarlet Devil Mansion
Now recruiting Fairy Maids
<We provide>
*Daily necessities! Includes uniform
*Charismatic employer and a gentle superior
*You can make lots of friends!
*Wage is negotiable. Experience warmly welcomed
The best "At home" there is
Lots of smiling faces
Every day is fun here
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Momiji's ear inconsistency strikes again!
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The SDM ad is adorable:
Good, but not sure where you got "beach" from. That line actually says "Every day is fun here."
The page with Seija, Miyako, and Kogasa is about proving that the urban legend where the middle person in a picture with 3 people will die is true.
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The page with Seija, Miyako, and Kogasa is about proving that the urban legend where the middle person in a picture with 3 people will die is true.
>the one in the middle is a sodding undead
well there's your problem :V
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Good, but not sure where you got "beach" from. That line actually says "Every day is fun here."
毎日, 海日
Honestly, sometimes me and my kanji tools are just stupid...
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You know, the pic with Momiji, Aya, and Hatate looks a lot like fan art. In fact, people might actually mistake it for fan art if they're not told that it's official.
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I believe, with passion, that Momiji has doge ears.
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I just picked up my own copy and I agree the illustrations are a lot racier than usual on the whole. Not sure why exactly, especially how he mentioned he's cutting back on post-battle clothing damage in his own game because of younger audiences, but it's mostly harmless.
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Okay, I'll bite: Why are the tengu posing for pictures like that (in Aya's own publication, no less(maybe??))?
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Few things I want to point out about the sample pics posted by Splashman.
1. The art style is inconsistent with each panel. Some looks to be hand-drawn, while some are very obviously computer-drawn. The one with Seiga, Yoshika and Kogasa seems to be drawn in the style of Wild and Horned Hermit, while the one with Seiran and Ringo looks to be Forbidden Scrollery.
2. In the "Miko giving a Trump-esque speech" panel, there is a cat (Orin?) tugging at Miko's cape at the bottom right.
3. In the same panel, the podium has "Toyosatomimi" written in English alphabets instead of Japanese writings. Has Miko ever been shown to know English?
4. Kokoro is at the bottom of this panel, still wearing the replacement Mask of Hope from Hopeless Masquerade.
5. Seiran and Ringo both opened Dango stands. From the pic alone, it seems Ringo has a better business, and Seiran is angry about it. Then again, Dango is Ringo's expertise, so she probably knew how to prepare them.
6. The aforementioned Dango stands are located in what looks like the Human Village. As Moon Rabbits are technically Youkai too, this makes me wonder why they have such successful businesses with the humans who are known to hate Youkai just because...
7. The SDM fairy maids recruiting advert has something fishy about them. Namely the fact that the fairy maids posing with Sakuya appears to be sweat-dropping nervously, and that their smile seems to be forced. Also note Sakuya's hands being concealed behind their back...
That said, I wonder if Sumireko is going to make comments about Miko's whole anti-Youkai speech and walling the Human Village being similar to Donald Trump's anti-Mexicans speeches...
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The dishonest tengu media make false statements in order to make our great Taoist policies look bad - very sad!
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While the title of the book make an obvious reference to a certain something, I honestly expected it to lightly poke the topic at the very best but not straight up throw it in, not even in a satyrical manner, haha. One day, a few years later, new Touhou fans who are not familiar with the context are going to stumble into this book and be like WTH ?!! Official material can be surprisingly crazy sometimes.
... also... Wakasagihime... is... surprisingly racked
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Looks like danbooru has some more scans, like this one featuring Clownpiece and Hecatia: http://safebooru.donmai.us/posts/2676242?tags=Touhou
There are also the full versions of the picture with the Aya, Momiji and Hatate ? but I?m not going to link to those.
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Okay, I'll bite: Why are the tengu posing for pictures like that (in Aya's own publication, no less(maybe??))?
It only makes sense for Aya to opt for a "sex sells"-tactic, like real life gossip magazines do. That's why ZUN would be okay with something raunchy, just this once.
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Aha. I suppose that makes sense. ZUN is oddly good about using Momizi in Aya settings, though, given the events of DS.
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The better question is, how the hell did the serious Momiji of all people agree to this. With the person she hates, no less.
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Obviously the lewd photos are a mishap by Aya's part. She send them to the print by mistake, as they are the photos the tengu take of each other while doing the stuff lovers do. When Aya realised she had published personal photos , she decided to cancel the book, as we can see in the lastest FS chapter. Mystery solved(?)
PS Now talking seriously, there is any hint in the book about why it has been canceled?
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PS Now talking seriously, there is any hint in the book about why it has been canceled?
I found this on the chinese wiki
http://thwiki.cc/东方文果真报/澄清/发售中止
(Pages 138-141 of the magazine)
Passing it through google translate it looks like it gives an explanation for it.
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http://safebooru.donmai.us/posts/2676215
The first ever full-body picture of Momiji <3 <3 <3
Yes, sure, she appeared in the latest WaHH chapter but either her face was a blank state or she was really small, and not really the subject matter.
We could adopt that has a profile pic since it's from an official source.
To be perfectly honnest, besides Aya's pic, you can't really call that "suggestive poses" lol. Well, it's a book for all audiences so it's expected.
I laughed so hard at the fake Miko speech lol when I saw Clarste's Tumblr this morning.
Dat subtitle. Hahahaha. It's Zun's way to make fun of Trump.
CALLED IT.
It was kind of a given though...
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*Wild speculation about what Sagume is doing at Eientei
My piece of interest for me. After me saying in the AoCF that Sagume was the least likely character from LoLK to become playable because she totally wouldn't come into the impure Earth. How cute seeing Seiran/Ringo and Clownpiece/Hecatia in Gensokyo.
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Holy shit, Momji canonically confirmed to have wolf ears.
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Holy shit, Momji canonically confirmed to have wolf ears.
Someone said she shows up in another page without them. ZUN has never been consistent with this.
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Someone said she shows up in another page without them. ZUN has never been consistent with this.
Oh? Then i guess its really:
Holy shit, Momji canonically confirmed to be really inconsistent.
Also, Clarste has been posting stuff about this book on his tumblr (http://clarste.tumblr.com), for example, a summary of an interview with Hecatia:
Hecatia has a big interview in the Alternative Facts. Which is strangely and specifically political. Summary below, lots of paraphrasing.
First Hecatia gives a brief history of Hell: It?s usually thought of a prison-like world for sinners to be punished in after they die, but originally it was just a world created by and for incredibly selfish people who valued true freedom above all else (ie: Chaotic Neutral/Evil). They didn?t give a flip about humanity one way or another: the seas of fire were just there to cook their meat, and the seas of blood were just in case they ever got thirsty. However, at some point there was a social movement to create order, and the Yama and Kishin took things over for the whole ?afterlife? thing. The older residents, like Hecatia, all have their own opinions, but she doesn?t especially mind. Some of the people who still value personal freedom have left to create their own new hells, but they aren?t really relevant.
Next, Hecatia talks about immigration. Specifically, Aya brings up the fear that immigrants from Hell will see the relatively prosperous Gensokyo as a feeding grounds and bring chaos and disorder. Hecatia points out that a birdcage with no holes for air to pass through is nothing more than a death trap. A steady influx of new ideas is necessary for the long-term survival of a society. And even if you think the people of Hell are too inherently destructive, excluding them entirely will merely piss off the people already inside who sympathize with them. It?s fundamentally impossible to preserve the social order merely by excluding people. At best it?s an illusion. And doesn?t Gensokyo take pride in accepting anyone? That?s its whole appeal.
Which naturally leads us to the Lunar Capital, that most obvious example of ?order by exclusion?. Of all the worlds, they are literally the worst. They exclude everyone to construct a false paradise for themselves. They love insulting people, but have the thinnest skin of anyone. And more to the point, they don?t respect other ways of living. Hell and Gensokyo have their differences, but ultimately they can get along, but the Lunarians can?t get along with anyone. One of them has the power to twist the truth to serve their own ends, using lazy reporters like Aya to spread falsehoods (?hey!? says Aya) and change the perception of what ?truth? even is. She goes on to insult the magazine.
Changing the subject, Clownpiece. Hecatia basically sent her to Gensokyo as a reward for completing a big job (the siege of the moon). Aya is skeptical, saying it?s clearly an aggressive move by Hell. Hecatia emphasizes that she only sees the moon as the enemy, and would like to get along with Gensokyo. Going back to Clownpiece, Aya notes that fairies are basically just background noise on the surface. In Hell though, they truly believe in the strongest rising to the top, so there are irrelevant Kishin and super-important fairies. Clownpiece is strong for a fairy, so Hecatia values her highly. Aya wishes tengu society were like that, because no matter how hard she works she?ll never move beyond her caste. Naturally, Hecatia invites her to come live in Hell, but points out that it?s not all good. At least Aya is guaranteed a position: in Hell people who fail even once usually sink to the bottom and can?t ever climb out of it. And those who aren?t blessed from the beginning would probably be happier dead. It is, after all, Hell.
Hecatia personally would like to have peaceful relations with Gensokyo, but Hell is all about freedom so everyone has different ideas. Some want to conquer it, some want to destroy the entire universe, etc etc. It?s Hell. But as long as she?s attaching herself to Gensokyo it?ll be difficult for anyone to make a move on it. Not because she has any control over their society?she describes herself as an ?outlaw"?but because she?s super-strong and no one wants to mess with her. The absolute freedom of absolute power. "Goddess? is just a title given to such absolute powers.
She ends the interview with a summary of her points: you can?t isolate any society completely, so building a wall or excluding others is pointless. Just think of them as neighbors. Just some advice from a goddess.
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For the record, these are incredibly rough summaries, maybe even "impressions". I would not recommend thinking of them as an actual translation.
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Oh? Then i guess its really:
*interview with Hecatia*
Also, Clarste has been posting stuff about this book on his tumblr (http://clarste.tumblr.com), for example, a summary of an interview with Hecatia:
Nice to see that Hecatia wants to establish diplomatic relations between Hell and Gensokyo. Perhaps as an apology for dragging Gensokyo into the events of LoLK?
Also, I guess its hard for someone who's anti-racist to live in a society of pro-racist people...
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Can I ask if you have charts like that for precious years? I always thought we had a low amount of porn even before we had a competitor. I've been looking for statistics like these since I had an argument with a fan of our competitor who claimed that porn gave them staying power.
Not to mention it's a source of pride to not be reliant on such things - given that I'm somewhat disappointed that the porn ratio for Vocaloid has gone up.
That particular series of charts only goes back to C87, it seems that data was the not being collected, so it is hard to compare with Kancolle.
C85 (http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/850/850840/img.html) is the last chart with Touhou in front, at 2258 circles. Kancolle has 1178 at this time, before it really blew up.
C86 (http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/920/920717/img.html), Kancolle blows past everyone, Touhou drops to 1938.
C87 (http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/961/961241/img.html), now separated like that, Touhou second place at 1791.
C88 (http://ascii.jp/elem/000/001/036/1036618/img.html), Touhou second place at 1523.
C89 (http://ascii.jp/elem/000/001/095/1095014/img.html), Touhou third place behind Touken Ranbu, at 1666.
C90 (http://ascii.jp/elem/000/001/207/1207540/img.html), Touhou second place at 1625.
C91 (http://ascii.jp/elem/000/001/408/1408708/img.html), Touhou second place at 1623. (Kancolle at 2824!)
Any idea that "Touhou is dying omg" is just, plain, flat out wrong; it's holding steady. (also Granblue's fanbase sure looks healthy!)
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Touhou's got its own doujin events across the country not to mention Reitaisai too so it's not like it needs an overwhelming presence at Comiket anyway.
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So Hecatia really is one of the strongest characters, so much that Gensokyo will be safe from threats if she is watching over it.
inb4thisdoesn'trefertopowerlevel
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So Hecatia really is one of the strongest characters, so much that Gensokyo will be safe from threats if she is watching over it.
inb4thisdoesn'trefertopowerlevel
She describes herself as super-strong (超強い) and it's implied that no one in Hell would want to mess with her or anything she has her eye on. That's only her strength relative to the other denizens of Hell though.
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So Hecatia really is one of the strongest characters, so much that Gensokyo will be safe from threats if she is watching over it.
inb4thisdoesn'trefertopowerlevel
I hope Hecatia acting as watchdog doesn't exclude other people from Hell appearing in Gensokyo.
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She describes herself as super-strong (超強い) and it's implied that no one in Hell would want to mess with her or anything she has her eye on. That's only her strength relative to the other denizens of Hell though.
Still mean she's really strong, right?
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Still mean she's really strong, right?
She is, in fact, super-strong. You can quote me on that.
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And BTW, Clartse, I asked this on your Tumblr, but might as well ask it here too. Anything on Sekibanki, other than the smartphone neck article?
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Someone said she shows up in another page without them. ZUN has never been consistent with this.
He was specifically asked about Momiji's ears and Aya's wings at AX. His reply was "I don't know." This is one mystery that shall not be answered.
All in all I'm liking what I see of this book. It seems more like BAiJR, which I guess makes sense because it's an Aya book. But the little ads and stuff that took the place of some of the interviews are superb.
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Any idea that "Touhou is dying omg" is just, plain, flat out wrong; it's holding steady. (also Granblue's fanbase sure looks healthy!)
If you are interested in only official games, then this is possible. But, ha, recently there has been a significant amount of pretty good doujin games.
So... I have no reason to think so.
i don't get the fuss about sopm. even when it came out i didn't think more than a small handful of people cared. characters are contradicted continuously in this franchise and fans haven't exactly stopped from interpreting them the way they like one way or another. and people definitely like the new games' content. (i quite like the casts of ddc/llok, personally, and i was not a big fan of ufo/10d)
people like to make up a lot of pointless drama where there really isn't any because it's more fun than thinking people get along fine, which they do, so i think people are drastically overrating how much various 'factions' exist and fight. people take what they like from it, ignore what they don't, and move on. touhou's a very, very diverse franchise with a little something for everyone and zun's own attitude of not taking it too seriously pans over to fans interpreting things how they want.
It's enough just to take Manga, and you'll immediately see how many inconsistencies in the temperament of the characters.
It just needs to be taken for granted, Zun does not take much care of the "storyline".
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If you are interested in only official games, then this is possible. But, ha, recently there has been a significant amount of pretty good doujin games.
So... I have no reason to think so.
It's enough just to take Manga, and you'll immediately see how many inconsistencies in the temperament of the characters.
It just needs to be taken for granted, Zun does not take much care of the "storyline".
Wrong, ZUN said before that he takes priority in the storylines when making the games.
And nowhere does it says the official games are dying and becoming less popular. One of the biggest attractions of the series are its characters, so every time a new game is announced, people get excited about looking forward to new casts. That is enough to keep interest in the series high.
Sure, ZUN may not be as active as before, but that's because he's a family man now and is too busy to be working on games all the time, not because he's lost interest due to the popularity waning, which was never the case.
Those complaining about the death of the series are the minority, and even then, they are proven wrong.
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It's enough just to take Manga, and you'll immediately see how many inconsistencies in the temperament of the characters.
The inconsistencies are due to the different PoV characters giving a different perception of the characters.
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And BTW, Clartse, I asked this on your Tumblr, but might as well ask it here too. Anything on Sekibanki, other than the smartphone neck article?
No.
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So has there been any translation effort other then Clarste and the few pages that got danboorued? I've noticed the raw text isn't even up on the wiki, which seems slower then normal.
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Masuo usually does the transcribing of the text, but it seems like he's been busy so he hasn't gotten around to it. Otherwise I probably would've knocked out a few articles by now.
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Masuo usually does the transcribing of the text, but it seems like he's been busy so he hasn't gotten around to it. Otherwise I probably would've knocked out a few articles by now.
Ah that makes sense. Wish my kanji was better so I could help, but it's good to know it's not completely off everyone's radar.
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The previous discussion regarding canon and consistency/inconsistency has been split off from this thread. It can be continued here (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,20714.0.html).
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Btw, I bought the book, but I don't know how you are supposed to open the central images, the ones of the tengus, without breaking the book. They are like, attached to the book spine or smth, any of you has the book and can help? Thanks
PS Sorry for reviving an old thread, but it arrived yesterday.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8mNnt9XUAAHmOb.jpg)
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You have to cut it open along the crease (left side of your picture) to open up the pages. I'm not entirely sure why they do it other than an incentive to buy the book (even then most places have new copies shrink-wrapped so I don't see the point).
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You have to cut it open along the crease (left side of your picture) to open up the pages. I'm not entirely sure why they do it other than an incentive to buy the book (even then most places have new copies shrink-wrapped so I don't see the point).
okey, thanks!