Author Topic: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5  (Read 128138 times)

Bananamatic

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2009, 08:27:57 PM »
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.
no shit
SanaeB has a piss weak frontal

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2009, 08:31:58 PM »
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.
Hmmm... time to try UFO with ReimuA again, then. =x
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2009, 08:33:41 PM »
That's because 'nut is a Forward-Type specialist.

...and the fact that that ReimuA this time around is only "forward exclusive" (normal shots, bomb, bomb speed). Unlike SA, see  :V

And if you're trying to use SanaeB like a complete Forward-Type Shot Type, then you're doing it wrong.
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Bananamatic

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2009, 08:41:27 PM »
And if you're trying to use SanaeB like a complete Forward-Type Shot Type, then you're doing it wrong.
It's not like you can shotgun everything :V

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2009, 08:46:09 PM »
It's not like you can shotgun everything :V
How to pass bosses using SanaeB without losing too many resources.

  • Hoard Bombs
  • Wait for something difficult to appear
  • Bomb
  • Shotgun
  • Repeat appropriate steps for each boss
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Bananamatic

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2009, 08:48:30 PM »
How to pass bosses using SanaeB without losing too many resources.

  • Hoard Bombs
  • Wait for something difficult to appear
  • Bomb
  • Shotgun
  • Repeat appropriate steps for each boss
That means bombing 9 times on Ichirin

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2009, 08:51:41 PM »
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.
Actually I use MarisaA. :P Sooo...

And now I'm failing on Ichirin. I guess I need to quit for today.

Bananamatic

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2009, 08:53:05 PM »

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2009, 08:59:32 PM »
Ichirin. I hate the fact that the fists will cover the bullets.

As for ReimuA, I'll probably be doing my Hard 1cc with her once I get skilled enough, which won't be for a while. I don't want to risk ruining my 3/3 on Normal Vajra with that shotype. Plus, MarisaA is better for Extra than ReimuA is.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2009, 09:21:33 PM »
Hmmm... time to try UFO with ReimuA again, then. =x
Just tried a test run with ReimuA. Despite monumentally screwing up any kind of UFO chain past Stage 1 (I gained I think one life and two bombs total from UFOs throughout the whole of Stages 2-4), I reached Stage 5 pretty handily. Also, smaller hitbox = I no longer have trouble with Kogasa's last non-card and Ichirin is a lot easier; I capped King Kraken Strike on a whim during the run without too much trouble. I'll need to try some more before I can conclusively say I prefer ReimuA, but so far it's pretty much 'HOLY CHRIST I CAN DODGE BULLETS AGAIN'.
That's because 'nut is a Forward-Type specialist.
Considering that for every other Windows game I pretty much exclusively use forward-types (IN is a possible exception), I probably fall under that category too. I guess now I just need to re-learn how to do all the stages without spread. :V
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2009, 09:31:36 PM »
Just tried a test run with ReimuA. Despite monumentally screwing up any kind of UFO chain past Stage 1 (I gained I think one life and two bombs total from UFOs throughout the whole of Stages 2-4), I reached Stage 5 pretty handily. Also, smaller hitbox = I no longer have trouble with Kogasa's last non-card and Ichirin is a lot easier; I capped King Kraken Strike on a whim during the run without too much trouble. I'll need to try some more before I can conclusively say I prefer ReimuA, but so far it's pretty much 'HOLY CHRIST I CAN DODGE BULLETS AGAIN'.Considering that for every other Windows game I pretty much exclusively use forward-types (IN is a possible exception), I probably fall under that category too. I guess now I just need to re-learn how to do all the stages without spread. :V

Try Reimu B? :V
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2009, 09:50:05 PM »
Died to hell's artificial sun >_>
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2009, 10:24:03 PM »
That means bombing 9 times on Ichirin
One on "KKS. One on "Hook etc."
That's it? I don't see why you would need 7 more bombs.
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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2009, 12:31:18 AM »
I. Can't. Beat. UFO. On normal.

Seriously? Do you need to do that to me? WHAT DID I DO TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, MURASA? *cries*
I'm right there with you. My latest attempt ended with me being a derphead and getting a game over on Capsizing Anchor, of all things.

Yeah. Out on Murasa's first card. *cry*

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2009, 12:39:07 AM »
Yet again, I die twice at meiling because the game didn't think I pressed the bomb button.

Oh well, I have 2 lives to clear the last level. I can usually do that. Clipdeath on stage. Bombed Eternal meek. Okay, I can capture all but 3 of Remilia's spellcards and noncards consistently. I might be fine. Clipdeath on opener. WHAT THE FUCKING HELL, I pretty much always capture her opener now, then I clip it.

Bananamatic

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2009, 01:08:15 AM »
Can somebody upload their SoEW with Extra opened if it is possible? That game is extremely boring :V

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2009, 01:12:48 AM »
Can somebody upload their SoEW with Extra opened if it is possible? That game is extremely boring :V
Do it yourself, normal isn't that bad.  Besides, if you're raging/bored on normal, Extra will make you punch holes through your computer. :V

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Bananamatic

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2009, 01:19:53 AM »
Do it yourself, normal isn't that bad.  Besides, if you're raging/bored on normal, Extra will make you punch holes through your computer. :V
NORMAL ISN'T BAD
I FAILED AN EASY 1CC WITH FIVE DEFAULT FUCKING LIVES

just upload that goddamn file

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2009, 01:22:46 AM »
Another case of WTFATBCMASB

I fail easy stage 2 quite a bit but I just attribute it to the insane difficulty of the games.

that and it took a while to get over my initial panicbombing habit...

After I successfully fixed my habits, I forget to bomb when I need to.

It's to the point that a die and then press the bomb button, rather than the other way around.


ebarrett

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2009, 01:26:11 AM »
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.

Partially true. ReimuA is superior, but UFO is bullshit hard. Maybe after I give each stage 100+ practice runs it'll look easy for me too, but at about half a dozen attempts I was at least getting deep into stage 6 in most of the other games, while UFO lunatic is unlikely to let me past stage 3.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2009, 02:02:06 AM »
On the rare occasion I make it past Cirno with dying, I'm practically GUARANTEED to die at least three times on stage 3.  This time, it was FOUR.

Game overed before midboss Sakuya.  I think I died once with no bombs and once with one.  Every other death was with two or more bombs.  AGAIN.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2009, 02:11:26 AM »
I realized that to 1cc UFO Normal would require me to not stupidly screw up on the easiest parts of the game.

And I used a bomb just 5 seconds before Flying Fantastica ends. Dammit.

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2009, 03:04:18 AM »
Meiling only killed me once this time. Too bad Patchy killed me twice instead of once. Then I clipped or got walled by almost everything Sakuya uses.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2009, 04:02:08 AM »
I don't get why MoF is considered easy. Seriously.

I somehow always manage to run into a bullet during Hina's midboss card even though it's easy.
Stage 4 is made of bullshit and Aya is a bitch.
Sanae loves to throw WALLS at me.
Kanako is just cruel.

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2009, 04:13:58 AM »
Which difficulty?

Bomb Hina's midboss card without any regret. It's better for your score anyway due to the faith items you'll get after it assuming you don't die too early.

Stage 4 is meant to be good for scoring since you can bomb for a lot of faith. Preferably deathbombs since you don't lose 3,000 Faith for those, but if you're just 1cc'ing, don't try to deathbomb.

I think you can memorize most of Sanae's stuff.

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2009, 04:19:04 AM »
right...

I remember beating MoF with about 10 continues and marisabugged.

Considering I didn't know about the glitch until after I beat it, I still consider my run legit.

Stage 4 is part of the Where the Forks Are Them Bullet Coming from ARGH Splat Boom category...

However parts of it are doable.

It was through playing MoF that i discovered an interesting techniuque for dealing iwth streaming attacks. I just move to to top left or right of the screen to POC, but instead of coming down, I wait for the enemies to spawn and shoot homing bullets. The homing bullets are now aimed at the top and the programming will continue to strike at your last position, so then you can freely move to the bottom center of the screen and have a couple seconds of bullet-free space before they retarget. In which case you simply move to the sides to dodge.
I call this trick misdirection.

Also MoF gives you more bombs than any other touhou game I've played, use them..use them lots. I personally like to do something I now call point blank bombing. I blow off a bomb right beneath the boss as they declare their spellcard and then proceed to shotgun. This makes short work of many spellcards.

When I said I needed 10 continues to finally beat MoF, 8 of those continues were for Kanako.

Sanae's non-spells are okay, but her spellcards are just insane...

And my jetman score was so good...if it wasn't for the red lances during that part.

Her stage is a example of how misdirection can help you.


Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2009, 04:43:02 AM »
Just played a few SA stage 3 practice runs and. Yuugi's lasers in her nonspells are complete crap on Hard. Constant clipping and way too small a space to dodge. This killed me both with Reimu's small hitbox and Marisa's spread.

The lasers part after the midboss is also a lot worse.

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2009, 05:03:40 AM »
You know i tried that stage on easy...

The gaps you can dodge throughare mostly nonexistant.

Zetzumarshen

Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2009, 05:06:43 AM »
2 misses before stage 4 PCB, 2 more on stage 4, and one last miss while doing Live Poltergeist. The sisters ate point blank Duplex Barrier before I ragequited.

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Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
« Reply #59 on: December 23, 2009, 05:28:27 AM »
2 deaths and game over...on Jack the Ludo Bile?

...really?

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