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Title: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 21, 2009, 11:41:04 PM
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AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 22, 2009, 12:48:27 AM
I tried a random run of UFO Lunatic. Died two times on Stage 2 and carried on for the hell of it. I then died at least three times on each of the next three stages, mostly with full bombs in stock and still made it a reasonable way through Shou.

I swear this game is purposefully trying to piss me off. @_@
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 22, 2009, 01:28:32 AM
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AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4324/aaagghghgaghagghhhh.png)

colon vee

...EoSD Hard still frustrates me. At least I can hear Locked Girl before game-overing now.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Suikama on December 22, 2009, 01:40:16 AM
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colon vee

...EoSD Hard still frustrates me. At least I can hear Locked Girl before game-overing now.
When did y...


AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 22, 2009, 01:54:20 AM
Not Touhou strictly, but is it possible to make a sloppy 2cc of Hibachi? :( Because if so, I did it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 22, 2009, 02:32:13 AM
-THE HELL?!

In order to get through Cirno without dying, I had to bomb four times, including twice on PERFECT FREEZE, but at lea-OH WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN I DIED AS DIAMOND BLIZZARD CLEARED

All right, all right, I'll keep going.  Get to midbo--WHAT THE HELL THAT WAS NOWHERE NEAR ME WHAT THE CRAP

OK, fine, two bombs lost, midboss China's ope--OH SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL IS THIS

Two more bombs lost, I don't know why I haven't ragequ--ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR GODDAMN MIND WHAT THE HELL DID I JUST HIT

...then I ragequit.

That was the best run of the day.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 22, 2009, 02:55:20 AM
Just had another 3 deaths to Yuka run game over on Reimu then another one end up at Shikieiki with a few million from the next extend while on my last life. That obviously didn't go well.

Edit: And I can't do the scoring method for Possessed by Phoenix phase 2. I either don't tap fast enough, or I tap too fast and get walled before the phase ends.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: P♂ zeal on December 22, 2009, 03:49:32 AM
Utsuho's fixed star.
EVERY TIME
"Okay nuclear death balls orbiting, so good so far."
"Static yellow bullets, okay..."
"OH GOD WHAT WHY AM I SO DIZZY FROM THE INVERSE SPINS"
"Okay i'll just dodge the yello-"
*NUCLEAR BALL OF DEATH IMPACT*
"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUU- how did I not see that coming?"
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 22, 2009, 04:09:11 AM
I think I got hit once

so why did I just lose three times to Aya again

what

the

HELL

EDIT: oh ha ha ha I just lost to stage 5 Sakuya without getting hit once
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 22, 2009, 04:35:07 AM
Maaaaan, I remember when LFO was one step away from being trivialized by me. I had the route ALL planned out, even captured it in my lunatic 1cc...

Man, whatever happened to that?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on December 22, 2009, 04:59:20 AM
There are few things more terrible than failing a perfect PCB Stage 3 Lunatic because you got boxed in by Chalk White Russian Dolls what the fuck
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Seian Verian on December 22, 2009, 06:44:08 AM
...Just thinking about UFO is enough to cause me to rage. I'm not even playing it right now, and just the THOUGHT of it ticks me off.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: COPIRIGHTO on December 22, 2009, 06:45:46 AM
Bucket Lasers...FREAKIN' BUCKET LASERS
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on December 22, 2009, 07:07:20 AM
Someone teach me how to not be completely terrible at this stage, seriously. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6556) :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 22, 2009, 07:08:16 AM
Someone teach me how to not be completely terrible at this stage, seriously. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6556) :(

Quote
Can nearly perfect the stage

Wut.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on December 22, 2009, 07:52:31 AM
Wut.
There's a difference between luck and skill :V

I'm mostly just jasldfuoiewfjkdsljfsd-ing over the post-second midboss Alice portion of the stage, Hanged Hourai Dolls, and Benevolent French Dolls.
Benevolent is bullshit either way and completely luck-based for me at this point, but I feel like I should be much better at HHD and the stage portion just makes me cry :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on December 22, 2009, 09:43:46 AM
PCB Phantasm.

Why the fuck can't I clear this stage yet?  Seriously.  I just had a run where I captured all cards up to Butterfly Temple or whatever it's called - and that's a real oddity for me - and then I was dead before Boundary between Humans and Youkai ended.

I can nearly perfect the stage segment (A couple bombs are usually necessary) and can handle Yukari very well up to Butterfly Temple so AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: lmagus on December 22, 2009, 12:32:22 PM
There are few things more terrible than failing a perfect PCB Stage 3 Lunatic because you got boxed in by Chalk White Russian Dolls what the fuck

IMO it's the hardest spell in the stage, so...  :P
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Illlumise on December 22, 2009, 01:49:21 PM
I. Can't. Beat. UFO. On normal.

Seriously? Do you need to do that to me? WHAT DID I DO TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, MURASA? *cries*
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 22, 2009, 03:05:24 PM
^

You can't beat it...

I can't even beat a simple umbrella..

this is a sad day...

mew77 has trouble beating an umbrella!!

What has the world come to!!

Correction...I finally beat kogasa on Easy mode!!!

Then brofists and lasers knock me down.

Then I try playing SA...

And wouldn't you know it, I actually beat parsee on easy mode!!

small YAY moment.

Stage 3 also known as, where the forks are them lasers coming from argh splat
Abbreviated as WTFATLCFAS.

Hey, if I say it enough times maybe it'll catch on.

WTFATLCFAS!!

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on December 22, 2009, 03:18:09 PM
Failed EoSD extra for the first time in ages, though primarily through me being in a rage and determined to capture QED or die trying after getting walled on THREE DIFFERENT CARDS and NOT BOMBING.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 22, 2009, 03:24:33 PM
Correction

Where the FORKS are them Bullets Coming from ARGH Splat boom

WTFATBCFASB

Catchy huh?

It was once said...Touhou is like standing in the rain except your umbrella has turned against you and is now shooting many colorful bullets at you. The rain is coming down in 7 colors, but you're not getting wet, you're dying.

KOGASA...You and your colorful cascades of confouding craziness are just...

ARGH words can't describe this frustration.

 
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 22, 2009, 03:44:28 PM
How many times is Mokou going to run into me while I'm trying to supergraze her opener? Most of my scorerunning attempts get ended when I don't perfect keine, and if they get past her, I never capture the death fairy. Thankfully I almost never lose a run to getting a bomb instead of a life. Then I keep messing up Mokou's opener because I can't graze it properly.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Illlumise on December 22, 2009, 03:59:09 PM
*gives mew a cookie* Well, I got killed by anchors. Anchors aren't even supposed to move. Umbrellas can move with the wind, anchors can't.

By the way, anybody has an easy way to survive through Kogasa's last spellcard? I did it once, but I can't do it anymore...yay for luck I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 22, 2009, 04:20:26 PM
The final card is static with the exception of the aimed shots, so you can memorize a path through it. I did almost mess up in this replay, but managed to successfully time the card out. Wish I could say the same for the other one I tried to time out. And I wasn't going to even try it on her first boss card.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6559
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 22, 2009, 04:25:30 PM
Thanks for the cookie

I got nothing for ya..

Wait...I watched the replay of our skirmish.

It involved a frog nuke...

But really stick to the center at all times. The freaky attacks are to the sides, so just stick to the center.

More correction..that run wasn't on easy mode it was on normal

Strangely all the losses to kogasa have made her one of my favorite characters...the heterochroma probably has something to do with it. That and the year I lost an umbrella a month... I got them all back later...

YAY for me!

it's hard enough getting to Kogasa's last card, let alone trying to beat it.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 22, 2009, 06:22:46 PM
Koishi's hearts. Quit killing me with your love damn it.

Finally made it past her second heart one just to game over on Genetics. I don't understand these spellcards.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on December 22, 2009, 06:35:51 PM
Two things:

Everything in SA Extra after the final noncard. Srsly, without spell practice I doubt that I'll ever have a perfect Extra. Literally. I tried it again for fun and EVERYTHING UNTIL GENETICS WAS PERFECT. That means no scoring bombs as well.

And the second thing:

Random UFO Stage 5 Normal run. Perfect. Again. Except for GREEN LASERS MADE OUT OF FUCK!
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 22, 2009, 07:37:20 PM
On the subject of UFO Normal stage 5 Perfect,

I just failed this 2 times in a row. Perfect everything until Demon of Purification where I die because I suck at that kind of spell. Vajra is mostly easy for me now.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 22, 2009, 08:27:00 PM
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 22, 2009, 08:27:57 PM
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.
no shit
SanaeB has a piss weak frontal
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 22, 2009, 08:31:58 PM
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.
Hmmm... time to try UFO with ReimuA again, then. =x
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on December 22, 2009, 08:33:41 PM
That's because 'nut is a Forward-Type specialist.

...and the fact that that ReimuA this time around is only "forward exclusive" (normal shots, bomb, bomb speed). Unlike SA, see  :V

And if you're trying to use SanaeB like a complete Forward-Type Shot Type, then you're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 22, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
And if you're trying to use SanaeB like a complete Forward-Type Shot Type, then you're doing it wrong.
It's not like you can shotgun everything :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on December 22, 2009, 08:46:09 PM
It's not like you can shotgun everything :V
How to pass bosses using SanaeB without losing too many resources.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 22, 2009, 08:48:30 PM
How to pass bosses using SanaeB without losing too many resources.

  • Hoard Bombs
  • Wait for something difficult to appear
  • Bomb
  • Shotgun
  • Repeat appropriate steps for each boss
That means bombing 9 times on Ichirin
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Illlumise on December 22, 2009, 08:51:41 PM
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.
Actually I use MarisaA. :P Sooo...

And now I'm failing on Ichirin. I guess I need to quit for today.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 22, 2009, 08:53:05 PM
Actually I use MarisaA
*brofist*
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 22, 2009, 08:59:32 PM
Ichirin. I hate the fact that the fists will cover the bullets.

As for ReimuA, I'll probably be doing my Hard 1cc with her once I get skilled enough, which won't be for a while. I don't want to risk ruining my 3/3 on Normal Vajra with that shotype. Plus, MarisaA is better for Extra than ReimuA is.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 22, 2009, 09:21:33 PM
Hmmm... time to try UFO with ReimuA again, then. =x
Just tried a test run with ReimuA. Despite monumentally screwing up any kind of UFO chain past Stage 1 (I gained I think one life and two bombs total from UFOs throughout the whole of Stages 2-4), I reached Stage 5 pretty handily. Also, smaller hitbox = I no longer have trouble with Kogasa's last non-card and Ichirin is a lot easier; I capped King Kraken Strike on a whim during the run without too much trouble. I'll need to try some more before I can conclusively say I prefer ReimuA, but so far it's pretty much 'HOLY CHRIST I CAN DODGE BULLETS AGAIN'.
That's because 'nut is a Forward-Type specialist.
Considering that for every other Windows game I pretty much exclusively use forward-types (IN is a possible exception), I probably fall under that category too. I guess now I just need to re-learn how to do all the stages without spread. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: lmagus on December 22, 2009, 09:31:36 PM
Just tried a test run with ReimuA. Despite monumentally screwing up any kind of UFO chain past Stage 1 (I gained I think one life and two bombs total from UFOs throughout the whole of Stages 2-4), I reached Stage 5 pretty handily. Also, smaller hitbox = I no longer have trouble with Kogasa's last non-card and Ichirin is a lot easier; I capped King Kraken Strike on a whim during the run without too much trouble. I'll need to try some more before I can conclusively say I prefer ReimuA, but so far it's pretty much 'HOLY CHRIST I CAN DODGE BULLETS AGAIN'.Considering that for every other Windows game I pretty much exclusively use forward-types (IN is a possible exception), I probably fall under that category too. I guess now I just need to re-learn how to do all the stages without spread. :V

Try Reimu B? :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: P♂ zeal on December 22, 2009, 09:50:05 PM
Died to hell's artificial sun >_>
GOD UTSUHO I HATE YOU
SO MUCH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on December 22, 2009, 10:24:03 PM
That means bombing 9 times on Ichirin
One on "KKS. One on "Hook etc."
That's it? I don't see why you would need 7 more bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: jc_foster on December 23, 2009, 12:31:18 AM
I. Can't. Beat. UFO. On normal.

Seriously? Do you need to do that to me? WHAT DID I DO TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, MURASA? *cries*
I'm right there with you. My latest attempt ended with me being a derphead and getting a game over on Capsizing Anchor, of all things.

Yeah. Out on Murasa's first card. *cry*
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 23, 2009, 12:39:07 AM
Yet again, I die twice at meiling because the game didn't think I pressed the bomb button.

Oh well, I have 2 lives to clear the last level. I can usually do that. Clipdeath on stage. Bombed Eternal meek. Okay, I can capture all but 3 of Remilia's spellcards and noncards consistently. I might be fine. Clipdeath on opener. WHAT THE FUCKING HELL, I pretty much always capture her opener now, then I clip it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 23, 2009, 01:08:15 AM
Can somebody upload their SoEW with Extra opened if it is possible? That game is extremely boring :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 23, 2009, 01:12:48 AM
Can somebody upload their SoEW with Extra opened if it is possible? That game is extremely boring :V
Do it yourself, normal isn't that bad.  Besides, if you're raging/bored on normal, Extra will make you punch holes through your computer. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 23, 2009, 01:19:53 AM
Do it yourself, normal isn't that bad.  Besides, if you're raging/bored on normal, Extra will make you punch holes through your computer. :V
NORMAL ISN'T BAD
I FAILED AN EASY 1CC WITH FIVE DEFAULT FUCKING LIVES

just upload that goddamn file
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 23, 2009, 01:22:46 AM
Another case of WTFATBCMASB

I fail easy stage 2 quite a bit but I just attribute it to the insane difficulty of the games.

that and it took a while to get over my initial panicbombing habit...

After I successfully fixed my habits, I forget to bomb when I need to.

It's to the point that a die and then press the bomb button, rather than the other way around.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 23, 2009, 01:26:11 AM
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.

Partially true. ReimuA is superior, but UFO is bullshit hard. Maybe after I give each stage 100+ practice runs it'll look easy for me too, but at about half a dozen attempts I was at least getting deep into stage 6 in most of the other games, while UFO lunatic is unlikely to let me past stage 3.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 23, 2009, 02:02:06 AM
On the rare occasion I make it past Cirno with dying, I'm practically GUARANTEED to die at least three times on stage 3.  This time, it was FOUR.

Game overed before midboss Sakuya.  I think I died once with no bombs and once with one.  Every other death was with two or more bombs.  AGAIN.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Nine West on December 23, 2009, 02:11:26 AM
I realized that to 1cc UFO Normal would require me to not stupidly screw up on the easiest parts of the game.

And I used a bomb just 5 seconds before Flying Fantastica ends. Dammit.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 23, 2009, 03:04:18 AM
Meiling only killed me once this time. Too bad Patchy killed me twice instead of once. Then I clipped or got walled by almost everything Sakuya uses.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: RainfallYoshi on December 23, 2009, 04:02:08 AM
I don't get why MoF is considered easy. Seriously.

I somehow always manage to run into a bullet during Hina's midboss card even though it's easy.
Stage 4 is made of bullshit and Aya is a bitch.
Sanae loves to throw WALLS at me.
Kanako is just cruel.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 23, 2009, 04:13:58 AM
Which difficulty?

Bomb Hina's midboss card without any regret. It's better for your score anyway due to the faith items you'll get after it assuming you don't die too early.

Stage 4 is meant to be good for scoring since you can bomb for a lot of faith. Preferably deathbombs since you don't lose 3,000 Faith for those, but if you're just 1cc'ing, don't try to deathbomb.

I think you can memorize most of Sanae's stuff.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 23, 2009, 04:19:04 AM
right...

I remember beating MoF with about 10 continues and marisabugged.

Considering I didn't know about the glitch until after I beat it, I still consider my run legit.

Stage 4 is part of the Where the Forks Are Them Bullet Coming from ARGH Splat Boom category...

However parts of it are doable.

It was through playing MoF that i discovered an interesting techniuque for dealing iwth streaming attacks. I just move to to top left or right of the screen to POC, but instead of coming down, I wait for the enemies to spawn and shoot homing bullets. The homing bullets are now aimed at the top and the programming will continue to strike at your last position, so then you can freely move to the bottom center of the screen and have a couple seconds of bullet-free space before they retarget. In which case you simply move to the sides to dodge.
I call this trick misdirection.

Also MoF gives you more bombs than any other touhou game I've played, use them..use them lots. I personally like to do something I now call point blank bombing. I blow off a bomb right beneath the boss as they declare their spellcard and then proceed to shotgun. This makes short work of many spellcards.

When I said I needed 10 continues to finally beat MoF, 8 of those continues were for Kanako.

Sanae's non-spells are okay, but her spellcards are just insane...

And my jetman score was so good...if it wasn't for the red lances during that part.

Her stage is a example of how misdirection can help you.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 23, 2009, 04:43:02 AM
Just played a few SA stage 3 practice runs and. Yuugi's lasers in her nonspells are complete crap on Hard. Constant clipping and way too small a space to dodge. This killed me both with Reimu's small hitbox and Marisa's spread.

The lasers part after the midboss is also a lot worse.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 23, 2009, 05:03:40 AM
You know i tried that stage on easy...

The gaps you can dodge throughare mostly nonexistant.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zetzumarshen on December 23, 2009, 05:06:43 AM
2 misses before stage 4 PCB, 2 more on stage 4, and one last miss while doing Live Poltergeist. The sisters ate point blank Duplex Barrier before I ragequited.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 23, 2009, 05:28:27 AM
2 deaths and game over...on Jack the Ludo Bile?

...really?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on December 23, 2009, 05:33:07 AM
Just played a few SA stage 3 practice runs and. Yuugi's lasers in her nonspells are complete crap on Hard. Constant clipping and way too small a space to dodge. This killed me both with Reimu's small hitbox and Marisa's spread.
All of her blue lasers and her midboss phase's red lasers should be static, at least from what I've seen. How do you approach the lasers?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 23, 2009, 05:49:12 AM
PCB Normal.

Started Stage 5 7/0, left Stage 5 1/2.

How I managed to make it to Sumizome Perfect Blossom -Getting Lost- before game-overing, I'll never know.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 23, 2009, 04:29:42 PM
lol EoSD
no deaths up to st3

st3 - 2 bombs 4 deaths
st4 - captured books, died with 3 bombs right before them
st5 - 1 bombs 0 deaths on Sakuya(after continuing)
st6 - 1 bombed Scarlet Meister

*shakes fist at China*
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 23, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
IN Extra scorerun attempt.


Get killed by death fairy.

Mess up Mokou opener grazing and have to deathbomb.

Die with bombs on one of the nonspell. Also have to deathbomb a lot more than usually happens due to screw ups.

Mess up Hollow Giant Woo right when I was about to capture it. Mess up Phoenix Tail when I was about to capture it. Clip something on the Volcano. Since I can't do the streaming phase 2 right on Possessed by phoenix, I decided to sacrifice the extra 20,000,000 or so and do circles, and I get hit right before the second phase ends.

Hourai Doll sucked a lot more than usual as I can usually capture it now. Die, deathbomb, deathbomb, die, deathbomb, deathbomb, game over when she was almost defeated.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 23, 2009, 05:04:46 PM
*enters st6 with 3 lives and 3 bombs*
*game over on scarlet meister again*

perfect st1 and 2
clipdeath midboss china, clipdeath something else, both with full bombs

I've hit my keyboard so hard that the spacebar flew out
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 23, 2009, 05:29:55 PM
Now I either don't perfect Keine or I die before the death fairy.

I don't even know how to properly get all the point items from the stuff before the death fairy part, so I have to bomb a lot to get them.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lopsidation on December 23, 2009, 06:06:55 PM
MoF Hard 1cc attempt- I made it 2/3 of the way through VoWG.
Maybe I could have done it if I hadn't died TWICE on Diluvial Mare.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 23, 2009, 06:09:12 PM
3 death IN Extra clear. Should have been 2 deaths, but I had to deathbomb on Possessed by Phoenix yet again right at the end of phase #2.

Also died right as I took out the HP of Phoenix Tail, so I got denied that capture.

Edit: 3 more messed up scorerun attempts. I know I can beat that Remilia solo score. I just need to quit messing up.

Okay, so I get a 3 death clear with Border Team and a 2 death clear with Yukari solo. How does that even make sense?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Scooter1000 on December 23, 2009, 09:23:45 PM
I can't make it past MoF stage 1 without dying anymore.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 23, 2009, 10:20:38 PM
Lost count of the number of deaths on stage 1 and 2 or EoSD.

I got out of them without dying I think a total of 5 times in around an hour and a half.

Three of those runs had me die three or more times on Stage 3.

One had me get through stage 3 with only 2 deaths, but killed me twice on the streaming at the beginning of S4 with full bombs.

The last one now had my first death, no bombs, on the fairies right before boss Meiling (where the hell are you supposed to dodge that, anyway?).  Best of the day...right up until I clip her opener with full bombs, have to bomb it anyway, then die on her next noncard with two bombs.

I am
GUILARHGJ,HBFG,SDJKZBXFUHGJKLHDBXCFJKBVGJKLXDUZHILDUZGKJDBNFKVGJDBKFJBNDFJK,KXCJNB,KCJNKCBGKXDG,KXDFJG,BFM,JHDBFM,GJBGHILFUHGILSDJKFGNKLSDJFNHGKLSDJNFGKLDJZFNGKLJZDFNGKJXDBNJKBNZFVGJKBXDFJKBGDBVFG,KDFJBVGLKDUZFJBGKLUZJFBKLJNHBKLJCNVKBJNCKLVBJNXKLCVJBNXKLCJBNKLXJVNBKLXJBN
right now
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 23, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
EoSD Lunatic is a load of crap. 4cc'd it earlier, and there's a lot of stuff I just couldn't deal with outside of pressing x.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on December 23, 2009, 10:44:11 PM
...did I really just mess up Gengetu's final phase?

I had 3/0 going in, I didn't even make it to "GRT" 2/2. ;_;

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: c l e a r on December 24, 2009, 12:04:56 AM
Scarlet Weather Rapture on Hard.
What the fuck, what the hell am I suppose to do in the last 25% of health?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 24, 2009, 12:08:01 AM
Scarlet Weather Rapture on Hard.
What the fuck, what the hell am I suppose to do in the last 25% of health?
Give up on playing this game. It's not even fun :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on December 24, 2009, 02:12:02 AM
I played horribly today. More like, everything was straight outta Clipdeath City. When first trying to pass SA Stage 6 Hard last night, I could manage 1-death/no-bombs on Nuclear Excursion most of the time. This was just trying to beat the level, when I'm under even more pressure to do well. Now that I'm playing under more "casual" settings, I'm lucky if I don't get walled in 5 seconds. And the clipdeaths, the clipdeaths! So many of them! So much so that I'm beginning to wonder if I'm doing something fundamentally wrong. I even died three times today on fucking Planetary Revolution. Three times, despite it being almost exactly like Fixed Star! And don't get me started on Utsuho's second/fourth non-spell. Randomly oriented rows of danmaku making me believe there's room, when they suddenly close in just tightly enough to kill me...

I was aggravated so much that I decided to try Stage 3 Hard in a futile attempt to cheer myself up. I hate lasers. I really do. Why did ZUN think it was a good idea to let Yuugi stay in after the midboss phase, shooting bullets that are designed to squish me into a laser? And why is her last spell now walling me every time no matter what I try to avoid getting walled?

I need to not play Touhou until after Christmas...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 24, 2009, 02:14:54 AM
GODDAMNIT ALL

I finally managed to get a good run going - got to Stage 5 with three lives, only to clip while HAMMERING the bomb button right before midboss Sakuya with two bombs in stock, then clipped her opener with full bombs.  Still made it to Vampire Illusion, but those extra 5 bombs could have taken me through into Scarlet Gensokyo, and maybe the 1cc.  GODDAMNIT.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 24, 2009, 02:20:05 AM
GODDAMNIT ALL
I hear you brother.
I can make it to st6 even on a bad run, but Remilia is basically a huge cunt(sorry Hele, but it's true)
Young Demon Lord is impossible at times with having both of the bullshit bullet types, the opener is clippy as hell, same for Needle Mountain, the pre-SM nonspell is also easy to get bs'd at and Scarlet Meister/Gensokyo are just plain batshit.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 24, 2009, 04:20:17 AM
I don't get it. Really, I don't. I randomly tried PoFV lunatic with Shikieiki, her being about the best choice without being considered "cheap." I made it all the way to Reimu on my first try, but I knew immediately I wasn't going to win because I had no lives left. I really don't see the appeal of a game where your chances of success are measured by how many lives you have in reserve. In PoDD, even if you had no lives you had a chance of defeating Yumemi. In this game you may as well kill yourself right then and there. I continued twice and beat Reimu on the first life of my third credit if you must know.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on December 24, 2009, 04:24:27 AM
Shikieiki actually seems to take a while longer then the other characters in order to take down enemies in Story Mode, although there is a big bonus in that you fight Reimu instead of Shiki at the end.

I find Reimu to be the best non-cheap character, especially since two lv16 lv2s in a row usually force the CPU to bomb or be hit since it dodges them all weird. Useful when the opponent has no gauge and would have to get hit. But even without that, I find them dying MUCH faster when I use Reimu then Shikieiki, or with most other characters too.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 24, 2009, 04:58:41 AM
I knew immediately I wasn't going to win because I had no lives left. I really don't see the appeal of a game where your chances of success are measured by how many lives you have in reserve.

Get there with lives to spare. "Simple" as that. A player of your level should be getting at Shikieiki with three spare lives (or two and more or less guaranteed to get a third during the fight) without breaking a sweat, since that's what you get by scoring naturally throughout and dying once at each of stages 6, 7 and 8.

Also, in the same way that it is possible beat Yumemi on the first try, she can also whip you for half an hour and refuse to go down no matter how long the (up to 5) rounds take. And so can Chiyuri vs. quite a few characters.

Really, this looks more and more like a campaign of hate. Though it's... understandable. Being one-upped is obviously something you can't take easily.



But even without that, I find them dying MUCH faster when I use Reimu then Shikieiki, or with most other characters too.

That's because the AI is extra stupid vs. the ying-yangs, and WILL get squished between two of them, or between a bullet/amulet clusterfuck and one orb coming the wrong (right?) way.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 24, 2009, 05:19:16 AM
There. Tried with Reimu.

...

3cc'd on the LAST life of my third credit. >_<

Get there with lives to spare. "Simple" as that. A player of your level should be getting at Shikieiki with three spare lives (or two and more or less guaranteed to get a third during the fight) without breaking a sweat, since that's what you get by scoring naturally throughout and dying once at each of stages 6, 7 and 8.

Great advice. >_> You realize that no matter my skill level, I can't dodge walls of pellet bullets moving at Scarlet Meister speed, right? Nor can the charge meter fill fast enough to protect me with a level 2. And it DEFINITELY doesn't help that the AI is a PoS that will not get hit even if it gets trapped inside of a level 2 spell like you NeoSerela said (I took the time to look, Shiki was inside of one of those, and DODGED OUT OF IT ANYWAY).

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Also, in the same way that it is possible beat Yumemi on the first try, she can also whip you for half an hour and refuse to go down no matter how long the (up to 5) rounds take. And so can Chiyuri vs. quite a few characters.

But at least it isn't set in stone, so you can at least have hope. There's no "timer" you have to run down in PoDD, and that in itself makes the game more fun.

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Really, this looks more and more like a campaign of hate. Though it's... understandable. Being one-upped is obviously something you can't take easily.

I...can't deny that. But I DO hate a game that everyone insists on me trying to like, that is dependent on the computer's whims rather than your skill, and throws walls not even the best players in the world can dodge regularly in the later stages. IMO, the campaign of hate is well justified.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 24, 2009, 05:22:42 AM
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[00:18]   <theshim>   sonofa
[00:18]   <theshim>   how the crap are you supposed to beat shikieiki
[00:19]   <theshim>   she throws walls
[00:19]   <theshim>   walls
[00:19]   <theshim>   and more walls
No, I'm with Donut on this one.  You have to get lucky on earlier stages to stand a chance on the later ones, because I don't think it's possible for a human player to take down Shikieiki on the first life, and I have serious doubts about the second.  That means I need at BARE MINIMUM two lives in stock to stand a chance, and three or more to have any real likelihood of pulling it off.

Anyone who says they could 1LC PoFV is either a god or a liar.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 24, 2009, 06:21:33 AM
Anyone who says they could 1LC PoFV is either a god or a liar.

It's probably harder than GRT no-deaths, if at all possible. In the first round of the final stage, not only is Shiki "invincible" (as everyone knows), but the amount of bullets you face is also much higher, for whatever reason. I won't deny that first-round Shiki was very, very poorly implemented, but some people take this single instance of (very) bad design and rampant unfairness and treat the whole game as if it suffered from similar stuff.

I can 1cc it with half the cast 80%+ of the time, and about 95% of the time with my preferred chars (the 5% failure rate accounts for playing more than half asleep), and I'm no Donut or Baity or Jaimers or Sapz or Kefit or Veronica or bjw or any other freak of nature, I can't capture Scarlet Meister or Scarlet Gensokyo, I can't survive Asteroid Belt for more than five seconds, I still haven't captured all the Last Words (curse you Yukari!), heck, my reflexes are below average as far as I know, not below Touhou player average, below average person average, and yet despite all of this PoFV is stupid easy for me so I'll just make the "lol hi I'm donut UFO lunatic is easy" face at both of you.


[00:18]   <theshim>   how the crap are you supposed to beat shikieiki

The same way everyone beats every char that's giving them trouble: watch some replays and mimic whatever you see.


3cc'd on the LAST life of my third credit. >_<

If I remember correctly, the AI skill level resets every time you continue. I'd need confirmation on this, though.

Also, if you would (could - damn bug) upload some replays, maybe I could just point out what you could possibly be doing wrong.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 24, 2009, 06:23:19 AM
The same way everyone beats every char that's giving them trouble: watch some replays and mimic whatever you see.
Cirno replay.  NOW.

(please)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 24, 2009, 06:25:51 AM
You can't imitate what people do in replays because the game is completely random. >_>

I don't know why I just don't give up. I mean, it's not like I'm not satisfied with my Aya 1cc despite that everyone loves to throw it in my face. I suppose it's that damn sense of obligation I'm told I'm supposed to have...

BTW, Kefit said that he never 1cc'd PoFV on normal once. Just so you know.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 24, 2009, 06:34:26 AM
Cirno replay.  NOW.

(please)

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=5339

The Shiki fight is even on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNOc-BZ8Chc).
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 24, 2009, 06:43:02 AM
HOW THE HELL DID YOU NOT GET HIT AT 6:05-6:15

NO SERIOUSLY
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 24, 2009, 07:04:08 AM
The.

Fuck.

I'm starting to notice some gameplay mechanics on my own, and let me tell you, that is...the biggest dick move ZUN has ever pulled. I never knew until now that panic bombing drains your entire charge bar, whereas doing it manually drains one level less. That is...just...fuck. That just pisses me off so much.

Also, you ever think that enemies coming from below isn't a horrible decision? Or giving you one second of invulnerability between hits? This game...is just irredeemable.

I got to Shiki with a life to spare, and it didn't make a fucking bit of difference because of these flaws.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 24, 2009, 07:20:25 AM
HOW THE HELL DID YOU NOT GET HIT AT 6:05-6:15

NO SERIOUSLY
Freak luck, of course. But getting hit wouldn't have changed much - I'd probably have avoided bombing that soon. I could have afforded the hit at 6:15, it was probably a better option but I was panicking - in the long run I didn't gain anything. At 6:25 I'd still be at least at the same 2 orbs and 1-and-a-half gauge, with a decent chance of 2 orbs and 2-and-a-half gauge.



I never knew until now that panic bombing drains your entire charge bar, whereas doing it manually drains one level less. That is...just...fuck. That just pisses me off so much.
Pretty much my reaction when I discovered it. And as with you telling me about ultra attacks in PoDD, discovering panic bombing put me on the fast track to (repeatable, beautiful, expectable) victory. Same with SoEW's double-tapping and half of HRtP's tricks, even the most "obvious" ones.

Also, you ever think that enemies coming from below isn't a horrible decision?
SURPRISE BUTTSECKS fairies are annoying but you get used to dealing with them. Your shots hit below your hitbox; the only occasion you'll get rammed by fairies from below is when you're charging in a corner; and if you're charging in a corner it means you ran out of room elsewhere, which isn't a good sign anyway. So, the better you play, the less you risk being in a position to get fairy-rammed. Corners are bad even without the fairies.

Or giving you one second of invulnerability between hits? This game...is just irredeemable.
WAT, this doesn't even make sense. How is one second to recollect yourself a bad thing? How is this different from, say, most if not all of PC-98? If anything, complain about how being hit while charging deprives you of the gauge bonus (even the full-gauge bonus when you're reduced to half an orb!), now THAT is something I want to punch ZUN for.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 24, 2009, 07:30:12 AM
Three seconds = Enough time to recollect yourself

One second = Enough time to recollect yourself if you are a robot. One second isn't even enough time to charge a level 2 attack to keep yourself from getting hit by the rush of random bullets that hit you the first time.

PC-98 gave you a lot more than one second. Also, while PoDD did this too, it's more forgivable because there's overall less bullets and the aforementioned situation happens less often.

Really, if it were possible to like this game, I would have done it already. But I caaaaaaan't. =_= So I'm just going to shut up about it now.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 24, 2009, 07:33:57 AM
Really, if it were possible to like this game, I would have done it already. But I caaaaaaan't.
This sounds like UFO for me.  To each his own, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on December 24, 2009, 07:48:50 AM
BTW, Kefit said that he never 1cc'd PoFV on normal once. Just so you know.
A point which is worth absolutely nothing in this case since Kefit is not here nor is his opinion Word of God :V


I really like PoFV. I'm going with barret here, I think it's a great game with a few very, very glaring flaws (first round Shikieki being the most obvious). I've come close to 1ccing Lunatic a few times, alternating between Cirno, Sakuya, and Yuka.

I'll steal a comparison from our friend Arcengal: much like MoF Stage 6 is basically all about VoWG, PoFV is basically all about the Shikieki battle. You're pretty much guaranteed to lose lives in Stages 6 and 7 (although I've gotten through 6 without dying once and it will never happen again), but after a death the AI lets up noticeably and will go down quickly in the next round. I like to think of Stages 1-6 as a "collection period," wherein your main goal is to amass lives (ie spam level 2s :V).

I'll repeat myself from another thread: "Fun != Fair," because that's what PoFV is: you force yourself through the insane unfairness at times and come out on top at the end.


(I also like PoFV much more than PoD.D)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 24, 2009, 08:20:17 AM
You forgot another reason that PoFV sucks: crashes when saving replays.

Thank you, ebarrett; one or two small insights gleaned from your video finally gave me the 1cc.  But the replay crashed.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Seian Verian on December 24, 2009, 08:44:18 AM
Quote from: Donut
*PoFV hate*

Quote from: theshim
*PoFV and UFO hate*

I'd just like to point out that I agree completely :V Because I must make my opinion known over and over again about how completely RIDICULOUS those two games are.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 24, 2009, 09:32:29 AM
You forgot another reason that PoFV sucks: crashes when saving replays.

Thank you, ebarrett; one or two small insights gleaned from your video finally gave me the 1cc.  But the replay crashed.

You forgot another reason that PoFV sucks: crashes when pausing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 24, 2009, 12:07:26 PM
Just failed Mystia and keine so badly that I game overed on Pseudo-History.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 24, 2009, 12:10:54 PM
Just failed Mystia and keine so badly that I game overed on Pseudo-History.
just fyi, my IN lunatic 1cc was a complete trainwreck yet I've still did it.
I don't think I've ever perfected Mystia or beat Keine without dying.

The.

Fuck.

I'm starting to notice some gameplay mechanics on my own, and let me tell you, that is...the biggest dick move ZUN has ever pulled. I never knew until now that panic bombing drains your entire charge bar, whereas doing it manually drains one level less. That is...just...fuck. That just pisses me off so much.

Also, you ever think that enemies coming from below isn't a horrible decision? Or giving you one second of invulnerability between hits? This game...is just irredeemable.

I got to Shiki with a life to spare, and it didn't make a fucking bit of difference because of these flaws.
PoFV is a dumb game.
I've improved in Touhou a lot over the times I've attempted Lunatic PoFV, but my results didn't improve one bit.

I've tried Normal and after no deaths in st1-5, st6 Reimu was running for 3 minutes on her last life piece.
On Lunatic, I'd say that st6 is impossible in one attempt, same for st7.
St8 is a bit more manageable and Shikieiki can fuck off.

Worst shmup boss I've ever seen. Turns bullets into MORE BULLETS.
I can semi-consistently capture Q.E.D.
I've got through Hibachi's final without dying.

But shittyeiki is just WALLS WALLS WALLS AND INVINCIBLE AI OLOLOL

DELETE THIS ABOMINATION OF A GAME FROM YOUR HD

either make it so the AI doesn't reach invincible levels or remove the impossible walls.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on December 24, 2009, 12:21:58 PM
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48. Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke

Hartmann's Youkai Girl ranked 62.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=958471&topic=50927417&page=1

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 24, 2009, 01:16:47 PM
I just wish I could play consistently.

Actually, if I did my absolute best, I could no miss all the way to before boss Marisa or if I was lucky Tewi. Of course, there's no way I'd repeat most of that. Mystia is 1 or 2 bombs assuming I don't mess up. If it wasn't so easy to mess up her first boss card, I'd memorize the thing and perfect her outside of maybe the Last Spell and if unlucky the final nonspell. If I no bombed stage 3's stage section, I could potentially no death Keine, but I usually get hit during the midboss card, so I bomb to avoid losing two bombs in place of 1.


Edit: Just lost to Koishi again. 2 deaths to her fucking heart spellcards. I can't play against those worth crap. Then a 1 death and lots of bombs timeout of Genetics because I can't kill that card, I don't know how. Then I game over on the second phase of Philosophy of a Hated Person because I got trapped.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 24, 2009, 11:21:13 PM
Two deaths and a game over on the stage portion of UFO Stage 6. The first was with two bombs in stock and was because I was flying up the screen to grab the bomb item. The second was at the loleasy Space Invaders part, and with SIX GODDAMN BOMBS IN STOCK I COULD EASILY HAVE BEATEN BYAKUREN WITH THAT JESUS CHRIST.

Having said that, this was my test run (read: first attempt where I didn't restart on Stage 1 or 2) with ReimuB, so... that's encouraging, I suppose. Especially considering how I messed up Shou so badly.

...Also goddamn if I hadn't had that stupid death in Stage 2 with both bombs in stock I probably would have 1cc'd goddamnit goddamnit goddamnit
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on December 24, 2009, 11:28:14 PM
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=958471&topic=50927417&page=1
PCB stage 2 ranked #1 okay WHAT. Mmkay, I just listened to it while trying to not think about where it came from at all, its a really great song actually. But, is it REALLY better then every other Touhou Windows song? I also wonder where UFO music would rank on here, considering that I don't think I saw any on this list, so apparently it wasn't included.

Patchy's theme, Native Faith, and Satori Maiden ~ 3rd Eye all belong in that top 10 for sure though. What the hell at Mokou and Koishi's theme ratings though, what the hell.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: KrackoCloud on December 25, 2009, 01:18:38 AM
Died fighting Byakuren on Normal. Of course, this is nothing compared to the countless complaints around here about Lunatics and Extras. Still, I can be upset, can't I?

Surprisingly, I'm not as much ragesome as I am disappointed for losing after getting so far for once.
If there's any rage, it's not towards Byakuren. It's towards TORAMARU, who basically murdered me and left me with only two lives for Stage 6.

"Murdered," yet left with lives? Hah! :U
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Seian Verian on December 25, 2009, 01:43:26 AM
PCB stage 2 ranked #1 okay WHAT. Mmkay, I just listened to it while trying to not think about where it came from at all, its a really great song actually. But, is it REALLY better then every other Touhou Windows song?

Hell no it's not better. I personally think it's nothing special. At all. In fact, I think it's the worst stage 2 theme besides Break the Sabbath.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 25, 2009, 01:58:30 AM
Break the Sabbath
we must fight
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on December 25, 2009, 02:26:26 AM
Hell no it's not better. I personally think it's nothing special. At all. In fact, I think it's the worst stage 2 theme besides Break the Sabbath.
That's because you hate PCB Stage 1 and 2 :V

Still, it is depressing that FLoT got #1 song in all of Touhou.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Seian Verian on December 25, 2009, 02:33:07 AM
That's because you hate PCB Stage 1 and 2 :V

I hate the entirety of UFO just as much if not more, and I like music and characters from it. I also happen to like Chen as a character even if her boss fight and stage are ARGH! Actually, Chen's fight is MUCH worse than the actual stage <.<;

[/acting like you were being serious] :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 25, 2009, 02:34:28 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6594

There, a PoFV lunatic run to show how FUN this game is. Isn't it great to know that dying more than once on any opponent means you have a zero percent chance of victory because low scoring me can't even reach the 50 million extend?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Seian Verian on December 25, 2009, 02:37:03 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6594

There, a PoFV lunatic run to show how FUN this game is. Isn't it great to know that dying more than once on any opponent means you have a zero percent chance of victory because low scoring me can't even reach the 50 million extend?

I have that problem too. I sometimes get it, but not always... Oh, and I'm almost guaranteed to die more than once on stages 6 & 7 too <_<;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 25, 2009, 02:38:35 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6594

There, a PoFV lunatic run to show how FUN this game is. Isn't it great to know that dying more than once on any opponent means you have a zero percent chance of victory because low scoring me can't even reach the 50 million extend?
I'll watch it if I have time later...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 25, 2009, 02:39:09 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6594

There, a PoFV lunatic run to show how FUN this game is. Isn't it great to know that dying more than once on any opponent means you have a zero percent chance of victory because low scoring me can't even reach the 50 million extend?
THIS GAME IS DUMB AND YOU SHOULD DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY

why does the 70m extend even exist
how do you score with SO MUCH SHIT FLYING AROUND
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 25, 2009, 02:40:32 AM
THIS GAME IS DUMB AND YOU SHOULD DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY

why does the 70m extend even exist
how do you score with SO MUCH SHIT FLYING AROUND
I hit the 90m on my 1cc.  For only the second time, but I can get the 70m one pretty consistently...

Level 2s, level 2s, and more level 2s.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 25, 2009, 02:41:14 AM
I hit the 90m on my 1cc.  For only the second time, but I can get the 70m one pretty consistently...

Level 2s, level 2s, and more level 2s.

That's what I did. And I ended with 43 million.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 25, 2009, 02:41:24 AM
I hit the 90m on my 1cc.  For only the second time, but I can get the 70m one pretty consistently...

Level 2s, level 2s, and more level 2s.
And I was told that I use TOO MANY LV2s. I never reach the 50m extend unless I die 2 times somewhere.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 25, 2009, 02:44:21 AM
This discussion would be moot if my FREAKIN' REPLAY had saved; I could've just uploaded that.

I'll try another run if I have time tonight, which I don't, but I might anyway.  Of course, that'll likely crash anyway, but I'll try.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 25, 2009, 02:51:23 AM
Makes me want to try again. I'll save that frustration for after Christmas.

I pretty much always hit 50,000,000 now. 70,000,000 not always. 90,000,000 never, but I've gotten close twice.

The idea is to use level 2's when you don't think you can dodge in order to preserve a chain. Also, lower tier characters will score better because the AI survives longer against them. All my highest scoring runs on Lunatic were with Komachi. Also use level 2 a lot if the AI is on their last life for some extra points or if you're at a full bar. Faster characters help to kill stuff quickly to keep the chain. Komachi really is good for that with her level 1 spam.


My best Lunatic Aya score was a bit over 30,000,000. No I didn't 1cc with her and I don't plan to now. I only got over 50,000,000 with Medicine once. Their brokeness causes them to have less lives to use, which is why I couldn't 1cc with them.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 25, 2009, 03:13:39 AM
Had 5 tries on Shikieiki again; I only made it to about 75 million, but I didn't die on Yuka to even it out.  Didn't 1cc, but I was playing terribly and I got killed by fairies coming from the bottom anyway.

I should clarify:  spam level 2s once you get the gauge up.  Firing them right away is going to get you killed, but later on they keep the chain going better than you can with level 1s and normal shots, and then become necessary for survival.  I chained my level 2s badly on Shikieiki and got hit on a couple of easier dodges, so I lost my gauge; the trick is to keep your counter as high as possible, so the chain keeps filling your gauge as fast as you can deplete it.  This works wonders with Cirno above all others because the freeze effect gives you much more time and yet more bullets to cancel into your gauge, filling it even faster.

...oh yeah, and the replay crashed again. >_<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 25, 2009, 03:30:18 AM
I think I've hit 70m maybe once, if ever? Not on a 1cc, at any rate. Anywho, I just tried a random run with Reimu (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6596) to see how well I scored, and 1cc'd without hitting the 70m. Bear in mind that I managed to do this starting the run at something like 2:45am so my reaction time was way lower than it usually is, resulting in a lot of derp moments.
Isn't it great to know that dying more than once on any opponent means you have a zero percent chance of victory because low scoring me can't even reach the 50 million extend?
To be honest, though, you don't even need that; my first 1cc (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=5504) only reached the 50m life and finished with a life to spare. Granted, I got pretty lucky, but still. :V

Past the first life, assuming you're using Reimu, you pretty much just want to be using level 2s and panic bombs. IMO, it's better to use the level 2s without waiting for the gauge to fill up, since 1. It allows you to hold them for when they're needed and release immediately, and 2. A constant barrage of level 2s while inside a cluster of bullets/spirits from Reimu will basically crush Shiki in a pretty short time period. My first 1cc had her go down in 1:55; the one just now had her down in only 1:39 (it was pretty unsatisfying seeing her go down that fast, actually... I had a very '...wait, that's it?' moment). :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 25, 2009, 03:34:31 AM
A constant barrage of level 2s while inside a cluster of bullets/spirits from Reimu will basically crush Shiki
Wrong.
The AI doesn't get crushed, it simply gets bored of dodging everything.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 25, 2009, 03:35:10 AM
I had a very '...wait, that's it?' moment
Why have you not gone and died somewhere yet?  Seriously.

 :-\
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 25, 2009, 03:35:32 AM
How is that unsatisfying. I think it'd pretty satisfying to see her cheating ass go down that quickly.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: c l e a r on December 25, 2009, 05:34:53 AM
I kind of like PoFV, it's hard, but that's probably that I haven't touched Lunatic's crazy AI yet.  Extra is kind of fun though.

As UFO, fuck it, I'm one of those people that hates to use bombs, and UFO keeps telling me to use it to go through their shit walls that I think I can go through.  I can't remember how many times I died on St. Nikol's when it is suppose to be easy since it is static, but then somehow I clip 2 times on it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 25, 2009, 07:01:06 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6594

There, a PoFV lunatic run to show how FUN this game is. Isn't it great to know that dying more than once on any opponent means you have a zero percent chance of victory because low scoring me can't even reach the 50 million extend?


Just watched the replay. Let's go through what you're doing wrong. Get comfortable because this is going to be a long post.  :V


- Your first move in any situation is to go to the bottom center and try to dodge everything from there. This is probably the worst thing you can do in PoFV; the bottom is a freakin' deathtrap. Move up as much as you can, and when under pressure (something that will happen more and more as you go through the stages), move in a U-shape to avoid staying in the bottom, and most importantly, from being pushed into the corners. When under heavy pressure on the sides, dodge up until you go past the point where the bullets can aim at your general direction.

- You're trying to basically stay in place and dodge everything that comes at you, because you're a top player, and your raw skill should be enough for anything, right? Wrong, because this way you must dodge 90% of the bullets generated. What you must do is actively chase down every single spirit, activate them and blow them up. Activated spirits are easier to destroy and reflect all cancellable bullets in a quite wide area around it; destroying/reflecting bullets and spirits is what fills your gauge and increases your score; you do the math.

- You're never using L1s, which, for most characters, complement their scope and helps destroying activated spirits (and fairies) which would be otherwise out of range (or which you are deliberately leaving behind for your L1s to destroy while you chase down something else on the other side of the screen). Reimu's amulets will bounce a few times while destroying enemies before fizzling out, which means that they cover more or less half the screen every time; they'll also go behind you to hit activated spirits that could otherwise explode at you from weird positions.

- If there's something hard to dodge coming your way and you have at least two bars of gauge, you're not supposed to try to dodge it. L2 away and reposition yourself (you'll probably be backing off while charging). Notice that "hard" isn't a fixed amount; you can be very liberal with L2s in rounds 1-5 (more on that in a moment), the same way you must be constantly evaluating your chances vs. every single wave Shiki throws at you because while everything can be considered "hard" you can't just expect to L2 your way through all of it.

- If it's early in a round (or if it's an early round) and you see a dense bullet "formation" which you can't figure out how to reflect through fairies/spirit destruction in half a second, run up to it while charging a L2. You'll gain back some reasonable amount of gauge, score a bunch of points, and raise your charge attack counter by one, which will help you later in the round, even if just a little. Word is that your gauge also starts filling faster the more you use L2s and above.

- The reverse to the above is, never use a L2 if there's not much to be destroyed around and you're not at risk of being hit. You're just wasting gauge.

- Never use L3s. NEVER. It has more or less the same effect as a L2 vs. the AI (nothing), and the increased destruction radius on your side doesn't get even close to compensating the extra gauge wasted. Two L2s are ALWAYS better. The only exception to this is, of course, when you absolutely need to panic-bomb. But being forced into panic-bombing with more than 2 bars of gauge is a bad sign and shows you've been managing your resources in a less-than-optimal way; it's often a sign that you should have used a L2 a few moments earlier.

- MACRODODGE goddamnit


Some other thoughts:

>> you should be at around 20 million points by the time you enter stage 6. if you're not, you're playing too defensively; there's still time to recover, though.
>> the 90 million points extend is extremely hard to get if you don't die more than once during each of stages 6-7-8, and very hard even if you do.
>> the 70 million points extend should come naturally, though, unless you're getting ridiculously lucky with Reimu and winning the later rounds too quickly. but then you aren't needing it  :V
>> do your best vs. first-round Shikieiki; it's impossible to win, but it's also possible to make more than 10 million points in about one minute and a half if you get lucky.



tl;dr; pretend you're Santa and the spirits are the chimneys
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 25, 2009, 09:18:55 AM
Thanks for the help, but I've already failed in my ambition (beat PoFV lunatic by Christmas). I'll keep these tips in mind for the distant future when I give the game another chance.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 25, 2009, 11:22:57 AM
I had a really good UFO run going, and managed to reach Byakuren 2/4 despite dying to Stage 4 Nue, Nazrin's Stage 5 opener with 4 bombs, and a load of other stuff. Game over on Devil's Recitation. Of course, I was annoyed and exited; and about half a second after I chose to quit I remembered that I'd perfected Ichirin during the run. Which, of course, I no longer have the replay of due to ragequitting.

Goddamnit, UFO. D:
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 25, 2009, 06:56:52 PM
Ooh, fate does not want me to upload a Christmas video. :'( Last night I recorded a 2cc of Hibachi, but for some reason Youtube refuses to acknowledge I'm trying to upload it. So out of anger, I go and record a REALLY GOOD Hibachi fight, and one of the videos (of course the one with the Crowning Moment of Awesome) is corrupted! D:

But today, I decided I simply had to do something, so I recorded myself playing the PCB demo. I 1cc'd it (poorly, but given the horrible input lag in that game it's a wonder I cleared at all), replayed the video, and...

The sound is 3 seconds out of synch.

;_;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on December 25, 2009, 07:16:04 PM
No deaths run of UFO Normal, all cards captured.
Then Flying Fantastica kills me FOUR TIMES.

Should have doubled my old high score, but no.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: lmagus on December 25, 2009, 09:27:42 PM
Failed a PCB Lunatic 1cc.

Died to Youmu multiple times with bombs in stock, died in Youmu at st6, died to Yuyuko with 988 points.. 12 more and I'd get an extend..

This should have been a 1cc =(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 26, 2009, 12:14:37 AM
...

If that error message doesn't go away very soon I'm going to go postal. o_o I've gotten all the way to uploading you, damn thing! If you don't play...

EDIT: Goooood, I was very worried for a while there.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: jc_foster on December 26, 2009, 05:36:56 AM
Had to go in to work on one of our slowest days of the year (rage in and of itself, if you ask me), and spent at least half the time wishing I could put some of the demos on my work PC.

Of course, the whole call center would know what I was up to by the first clipdeath ....
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 26, 2009, 11:43:08 AM
it's funny...

I actually did just fine on my run of MoF easy...getting through stages 2-4 without continues, finally getting shot down in stage 5. Roughly a month later I check the replay and it shows me losing in stage 4. To be specific backing right into a blue faerie just as momiji starts her cascade.

Weird and annoying.

Speaking of MoF
Kanako's Mountain of Faith
Also known as holy crap rainbow cards argh
HCRCA.

Meaningless acronyms FTW!
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: BoLaD on December 26, 2009, 06:38:33 PM
Remilia Scarlet, lunatic
Unpatched EoSD (Vista)
That is all.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: c l e a r on December 26, 2009, 07:07:04 PM
it's funny...

I actually did just fine on my run of MoF easy...getting through stages 2-4 without continues, finally getting shot down in stage 5. Roughly a month later I check the replay and it shows me losing in stage 4. To be specific backing right into a blue faerie just as momiji starts her cascade.

Weird and annoying.

Easy Mode is easy, even Normal in MoF is easy as shit even if you bomb it all.

Remilia Scarlet, lunatic
Unpatched EoSD (Vista)
That is all.

I must be missing something here other than "Scarlet Meister/Gensokyo" is bullshit.  What's vista got to do with it?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaore on December 26, 2009, 07:26:07 PM
Ffffffffffffffffffffffff-

4/4 into Stage 5. Perfect Cherry Blossom.

-All four are lost without a bomb used-. One by BACKING INTO A DAMN BULLET.

Best run to date and it is RUINED in seconds.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 27, 2009, 12:03:16 AM
Only die once to heart cards. Captured Rorschach for first time ever, run is looking possibly solid because I could possibly enter Genetics with 3 spare lives.

clip nonspell before phallic heart rockets, clip phallic heart rockets, clip nonspell after the rockets. Captured Youkai Polygraph for the first time as well.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: c l e a r on December 27, 2009, 01:09:58 AM
Only die once to heart cards. Captured Rorschach for first time ever, run is looking possibly solid because I could possibly enter Genetics with 3 spare lives.

clip nonspell before phallic heart rockets, clip phallic heart rockets, clip nonspell after the rockets. Captured Youkai Polygraph for the first time as well.

Well, hey, at least you didn't die at the last second of Subterranean Rose from someone we all know too well...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 27, 2009, 01:18:33 AM
Well, hey, at least you didn't die at the last second of Subterranean Rose from someone we all know too well...

The enraging thing is that whether by coincidence or by design, by constantly shooting Koishi with Reimu A at 4.00 power, you will naturally get trapped by the rotating explosions (or whatever they are) as Koishi is dying and fail the spell card.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: BoLaD on December 27, 2009, 01:26:35 AM
@Clear:
Sorry, that was just me spouting crap about things I don't know anything about.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 27, 2009, 01:29:44 AM
The enraging thing is that whether by coincidence or by design, by constantly shooting Koishi with Reimu A at 4.00 power, you will naturally get trapped by the rotating explosions (or whatever they are) as Koishi is dying and fail the spell card.
Easily solved by moving downward with the walls. :V Still, it is pretty annoying... that denied me my first capture of that card.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 27, 2009, 06:17:54 AM
GODDAMNIT AGAIN

Best run of EoSD ever.  No deaths up to China, a first.  Only died once on her, on Flower Dream Vine.  No deaths and only two bombs on Stage 4; my best is a single bomb at the books, but that's still really good.  Only two deaths on Patchy, and one was with full bombs on friggin' Trilithon Shake.  Then...then things started going wrong.  Death with full bombs on Illusional Misdirection.  A few on Sakuya, get to stage 6 2/2.

Death with a bomb to her midboss opener.  DEATH WITH FULL BOMBS ON ETERNAL MEEK.  Get to Remilia 0/3, game over on Young Demon Lord.

Three deaths with full bombs.  SO GODDAMN CLOSE.  GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT SERIOUSLY GODDAMNIT ALL
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 27, 2009, 07:59:49 AM
goddamnit it's contagious

EoSD lunatic. First death vs Flower Dream Vine, with one bomb in stock, by pressing "S" instead of "X" to deathbomb. Derp. No more deaths until Patchy, then it all went to hell - died vs. non-directional lasers, died with full bombs, died when 1% away from a capture, absolutely horrible. Probably died some more, I can't really remember.

Entered stage 5 1/1. Died to Illusional Misdirection after bombing it because I messed it up so badly I don't even know where to begin explaining. Then wasted the midboss Sakuya 1up AND the three bombs by AGAIN having my finger slip and press "S" to bomb on FREAKIN' JACK THE LUDO BILE which should be a 100% capture, needing to bomb would have been bad enough already. Still managed to get to stage 6 but game overed vs. Eternal Meek.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 27, 2009, 01:46:15 PM
If I didn't die twice at the heart cards I might have actually cleared. Failed a lot at Subterrnean Rose though and didn't even make it to the 3rd phase of it. Oh, and screw Genetics and Philosophy of a Hated Person's last 2 phases. Genetics is pretty much a timeout card for me because I never get there with enough power to kill it and even if I did, I can't do it. And the survival likes to wall me.

Capturing Embers of Love for the first time ever at 0.xx power was pretty nice too.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 27, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
Perfected SA Extra except for a death on Philosophy's third phase. <_<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 27, 2009, 06:29:19 PM
Again denied a MoF lunatic 1cc at the last couple of seconds of VoWG.

Shaky run throughout, though - bombed Minoriko's first nonspell (!), bombed twice during pre-midboss-Hina stage 2 (!!), died on Broken Charm of Protection (meh), needed to bomb twice on both Spin the Cephalic Plate (forgot I was playing ReimuB) and Storm Day (WHAT), deathbomb on Yasaka's Divine Wind (WHAAAAAAT).... only started playing well upon reaching Kanako (even the loleasy stage 6 deathfairy had to be bombed due to leftover bulletspam getting in the way), and by then I was at 0/3.2  :(

Well, at least it was less awful than failing after reaching Kanako at 4/2.5 like I did once before.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on December 27, 2009, 09:35:57 PM
Just tried a no death UFO stage 6 because this is suppose to be harder than EoSD no death stage 6.

Almost did it on my first attempt. Died on Superhuman of all things. I then capture LFO.

I don't get how this is harder. :/
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 27, 2009, 09:37:35 PM
Just tried a no death UFO stage 6 because this is suppose to be harder than EoSD no death stage 6.

Almost did it on my first attempt. Died on Superhuman of all things. I then capture LFO.

I don't get how this is harder. :/

Because it is, okay? >:<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 27, 2009, 10:56:08 PM
I hope Jaimers is happy, because by inspiring me to get serious about UFO stage 6 no deaths he has sucked the fun out of one of my favorite boss fights in the series. As usual, I cannot have fun in this stage now until I beat it.

This wouldn't even be so hard if it weren't for the FUCKING first part of the stage. Those random shooters ruin so many runs it's not funny.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 28, 2009, 12:26:07 AM
HRtP no-bombs. Mostly perfect stages 1-14 including a perfect Mima fight (who had been obliterating me repeatedly). Entered Kikuri (whom I obliterated in the last few times I played) with full lives. Game over on Kikuri.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on December 28, 2009, 12:46:19 AM
I got a gripe with PCB. Why does it seem like ZUN really messed up sorting out some parameters (bullet patterns, speeds, etc.) that measure what we, the players, measure as "difficulty"? Easy Mode seems like it has way too many bullets on the later levels, perhaps enough to rival Normal, and to potentially unnerve those who are new to Touhou. Hell, even I felt uneasy seeing Youmu's nonspells the first time on Easy. Imagine a total rookie realizing he doesn't have nearly enough experience to weave through the sets of bullets, or better yet stream the arrowheads while weaving. The very dense and stream-prohibiting "Perfect Cherry Blossom of Sumizome" also comes to mind - I've yet to capture it on Easy because of the "cherry blossom" danmaku, but I randomly almost capped it on my first try during Normal Mode.

I have to play Hard and Lunatic before I can make judgments for them, so nothing about them right now.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 28, 2009, 12:52:43 AM
PCB easy is dispropotionatally hard, yes. It took me much longer to 1cc easy than to 1cc normal.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on December 28, 2009, 01:03:23 AM
dfjakajfds (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6648)

Some of the dumbest deaths I've ever had. I know I could have beaten Shikieki if I hadn't kept messing up. If I die one more time because Yuka was too slow to get out of the way...

Anyone see anything I'm doing really wrong? :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 28, 2009, 01:04:04 AM
I got a gripe with PCB. Why does it seem like ZUN really messed up sorting out some parameters (bullet patterns, speeds, etc.) that measure what we, the players, measure as "difficulty"? Easy Mode seems like it has way too many bullets on the later levels, perhaps enough to rival Normal, and to potentially unnerve those who are new to Touhou. Hell, even I felt uneasy seeing Youmu's nonspells the first time on Easy. Imagine a total rookie realizing he doesn't have nearly enough experience to weave through the sets of bullets, or better yet stream the arrowheads while weaving. The very dense and stream-prohibiting "Perfect Cherry Blossom of Sumizome" also comes to mind - I've yet to capture it on Easy because of the "cherry blossom" danmaku, but I randomly almost capped it on my first try during Normal Mode.

I have to play Hard and Lunatic before I can make judgments for them, so nothing about them right now.

Having only played Touhou for a couple months now, I can say that the Touhou games on Easy mode are comparable to other shooters on hard mode. Even stages 1 and 2 in Touhou games throw all sorts of crazy cascades at me. Just take UFO for instance...I just got past Kogasa in stage 2 normal last week. And I'm already feeling proud of myself for doing that much. Stage 3 downright massacred me however. In SA I find Parsee easier than Yamame, and then Yuugi comes and lasers me to death all the same. 

As for what you say about PCB, I find that if a rookie tried to play Touhou like I did. Either he would get frustrated and rage quit or realize the game is above his skill level and try to get better. Personally, I still suck at these games. The day I get through SA and UFO stage 3 will mark the second milestone in my Touhou experience. The first being a 10 continue clear of MoF easy. 8 of the continues were for Kanako!! But I still beat it
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 28, 2009, 01:04:48 AM
HNNNNNN made all the way up to Konngara no-bombs. Then failed miserably. (after failing stage 19 miserably as well and entering stage 20 with only 4 lives.)




Anyone see anything I'm doing really wrong? :(
without watching the replay:

Yuka was too slow to get out of the way
so, yeah, protip: ditch Yuka

edit: watched the replay. BOMB MOAR. you're even getting hit with a full gauge at times, I'm getting the impression that you're waiting for REALLY TOUGH SPOTS to use up your gauge. now, if you have at least 2 bars, you have no reason to get hit except by some suprise bullet which you absolutely did not see, and the more filled your gauge is, the more liberal you can (and should) be about using it. keep ready to charge a L2 at all times, against anything that isn't absolutely harmless (if it turns out to be a non-threat, release a L1 before you've finished charging) and don't be afraid of being temporarily reduced to less than 2 bars - it certainly tops getting hit. it also helps with your score, and with getting the not-really-that-hard 70m extend.

you're doing fine with Yuka's "speed", though Shikieiki will always be a problem. and with Yuka having no tricks vs. the AI, you're probably needing the usual three minutes.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 28, 2009, 02:55:16 AM
I've spent the last hour and a half fighting Lunatic Aya in PoFV Match mode with Marisa/Shiki. One round lasted for 3:42, and had Aya still be at full health by the time I died.

:V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 28, 2009, 02:59:21 AM
Give up now..the AI in that game has reached the threshhold where blood/alcohol level is optimal for dodging skills.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on December 28, 2009, 03:17:20 AM
Lunatic
Match mode

There's your problem :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: AlexX Unlimited on December 28, 2009, 03:18:05 AM
Utsuho. Just.... ugh. I'll never 1CC SA at this rate...

EDIT: No Bananamatic, that is not your cue to give me advice on spellcards I've never heard of before. =V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: RainfallYoshi on December 28, 2009, 03:20:35 AM
I gave up on 1ccing SA. It's just made of garbage. Watching videos of SA Extra also influenced this because "Oh gawd what is this shit, this is made of unfair."
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Esoterica on December 28, 2009, 03:22:25 AM
I've spent the last hour and a half fighting Lunatic Aya in PoFV Match mode with Marisa/Shiki. One round lasted for 3:42, and had Aya still be at full health by the time I died.

:V
Not only are you playing lunatic match mode, you're doing it against the fastest character. :V  If you actually want to have a chance at winning, don't play against anyone faster than Sakuya, and don't use anyone worse at trapping the AI than Marisa.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 28, 2009, 03:29:38 AM
Quote from: People
Match mode is BS etc.
I'm more doing this for fun and practice than to actually have a chance a winning, although winning would obviously be an excellent bonus. It's just so much fun to have matches that intense. I don't want to find ways to make this easier for myself; the fun is all in the challenge.

At any rate, though, I have managed to get her to half an orb on three seperate occasions with Shiki, so there's hope yet. :V
I gave up on 1ccing SA. It's just made of garbage. Watching videos of SA Extra also influenced this because "Oh gawd what is this shit, this is made of unfair."
Nahh, SA is fair; it's just really, really hard compared to most of the other games. The main difficulty aside from the danmaku comes from the fact that bombs are really weak aside from ReimuC's; you have to be consistent at most things in order to succeed. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 28, 2009, 03:29:46 AM
EDIT: No Bananamatic, that is not your cue to give me advice on spellcards I've never heard of before. =V
protip: her first card is harder on normal than on lunatic
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on December 28, 2009, 03:31:11 AM
protip: her first card is harder on normal than on lunatic
And so is her last. And her semifinal too, IMO.

Yeah, something is seriously wrong with the Utsuho fight :X
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 28, 2009, 03:35:26 AM
protip: her first card is harder on normal than on lunatic
And so is her last. And her semifinal too, IMO.

Yeah, something is seriously wrong with the Utsuho fight :X
Her first and fourth I disagree with but can sort of understand; but Lunatic Subterranean Sun easier than Normal? Really? I can't see any reason at all why this would be the case; it's both much slower and much less dense. ???
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 28, 2009, 03:37:25 AM
Her first and fourth I disagree with but can sort of understand; but Lunatic Subterranean Sun easier than Normal? Really? I can't see any reason at all why this would be the case; it's both much slower and much less dense. ???
The first one is much easier to misdirect IMO.
Yeah it's a bit harder on lunatic, but it's not killer difference like Kanako or Remi.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: AlexX Unlimited on December 28, 2009, 03:37:48 AM
protip: her first card is harder on normal than on lunatic
I was trying to poke fun at the fact you keep using Hard/Lunatic names for me when I'm a Normal-mode player. >=E (Seriously, I had to look up what the crap Hell's Tokamak was supposed to be...)

And I can't even get past STAGE FREAKING ONE on lunatic, so I'm not going to be able to test that out anytime soon.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 28, 2009, 03:42:07 AM
I was trying to poke fun at the fact you keep using Hard/Lunatic names for me when I'm a Normal-mode player. >=E (Seriously, I had to look up what the crap Hell's Tokamak was supposed to be...)

And I can't even get past STAGE FREAKING ONE on lunatic, so I'm not going to be able to test that out anytime soon.
Just like you don't know the H/L names, I don't know the Normal names anymore :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on December 28, 2009, 03:48:42 AM
Oni God Mode-best played while Drunk

Sounds like sage advice
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 28, 2009, 04:14:07 AM
HRtP lunatic no bombs. Perfected Shingyoku. Perfected Mima. Perfected Kikuri. Accidental bomb on stage 17 with one card remaining. Gameover at Konngara because, really, wouldn't you feel crushed too?

 :'(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: RegalStar on December 28, 2009, 04:19:23 AM
On Christmas day I beat Imperishable Night's Extra for the first time (fairly choppy run but still...). I spend about two days gloating to anyone who cares to listen, then decides to move on and start working on PCB Normal.

I proceed to spend about 20 games dying to Letty, Chen, and once to a Pre-Cirno fairy. AHFIODSIOGHWIJ
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 28, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
Managed to last over four minutes against Aya and bring her down to half an orb. I'll win a round eventually. :V Would upload the replay of it, but for some reason gensokyo.org won't accept it. Has this happened to anyone else?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 28, 2009, 05:20:35 PM
Managed to last over four minutes against Aya and bring her down to half an orb. I'll wind a round eventually. :V Would upload the replay of it, but for some reason gensokyo.org won't accept it. Has this happened to anyone else?
It will get marked as TAS :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on December 28, 2009, 05:25:06 PM
It will get marked as TAS :V
Pssh! D:

Anyway, I just realised I'm being an idiot and can upload the replay directly here, so... yeah. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on December 28, 2009, 08:04:44 PM
Wait, what?

I just went from 5 health orbs to a half in the course of a single second.
And I died to Yuka three times. Had 50 million when I game-overed in stage 8.
I'm spamming lvl 2's like crazy and I still have this low?  ???
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on December 28, 2009, 08:47:50 PM
I'm going to fucking cry.

I reached GRT 2/2...
I die with a bomb in stock...

God fucking damnit... ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 28, 2009, 10:04:08 PM
Deathbombed Ephemerality 137 perfected everything else in the stage. Fuck that stupid spell. It's not easy despite what you guys say.

Order of things that mess up a perfect run.

Ephemerality
Nonspells
Future God's Realm
Three Treasures Country
Pseudo-History
First Pyramid
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Esoterica on December 28, 2009, 10:04:58 PM
Anyone see anything I'm doing really wrong? :(
If I die one more time because Yuka was too slow to get out of the way...
I don't even need to look at the replay to know that you're focusing too much.  Her unfocused speed is perfect imo, especially combined with her level 1 charge to clear swaths of enemies and bullets.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: RainfallYoshi on December 28, 2009, 11:26:01 PM
SoEW Extra.

That is all.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Polaris on December 29, 2009, 12:50:07 AM
I was doing this amazing Normal run of EoSD and perfecting Stage 5 (the stage only) so I get to Remilia, three extra lives and three bombs.

And then I die on her first nonspell with bombs in stock.
"Well, that was stupid of me, but maybe I can still pull this off if I'm more conservative..."
And then I die again on her first spell, Star of David, again with bombs in stock.
"Ugh, why am I being so terrible right now? I hope I don't die anymore, since this isn't going too well..."
There's one life left. I'm doing better now, bombing Scarlet Netherworld like I always do and then capturing Curse of Vlad Tepes.
And then I die on her last nonspell, the first phase that isn't streaming.
"Aslkdnslkdnalksn this is so stupid ugghh why must I keep failing"
Last death, Scarlet Shoot.
I didn't even get to Red Magic.
AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 29, 2009, 01:44:37 AM
HRtP lunatic no bombs.

Got Konngara down to 2 hits left, after entering the final stage with only 3 lives after AGAIN messing up horribly on stage 19.

By the way: so many runs ending on stage 16. So many.



edit: got to Kikuri with full lives as opposed to 1 or 2 like in most runs. "Finally, this should be more than enough to allow me to play conservatively through 16-19 and guarantee a clear!"

Game over at Kikuri's first phase.  :'(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: c l e a r on December 29, 2009, 02:54:21 AM
Her first and fourth I disagree with but can sort of understand; but Lunatic Subterranean Sun easier than Normal? Really? I can't see any reason at all why this would be the case; it's both much slower and much less dense. ???

It's the same with many cards on Lunatic, as long as the bullets come down, and not side ways or any other bullshit, if it comes down faster without it being too random, it's easy.

The problem with Nuclear Fusion (1st Card Normal) is the blue bullets moves waaay too slow, and the sun bullets are less frequent, so naturally, you could winded right under the one of the sun bullets since you are too busy reading the blue ones.

On Uncontainable Nuclear Reaction (Lunatic), the sun bullets are launched one after another, so it sort of creates a zone for your eyes, so it's like "Let's not go there."  The blue bullets are still dense, but moving fast enough so it is not a chore to read them.  At least, that's how I see it.

Hell's Artificial Sun vs. Subbterrean Sun, same idea with the fast bullet problem, what you need to do in both cards is to let the gravity take you through the gaps and regroup.  In normal, you can tense up since you can move away from your gap.  On Lunatic, this is less of a problem.

PS: This reminds me of Ouendan, in Normal mode there, there are beats that are not 1/16th notes intense, and that becomes harder when you turn on hidden mode.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 29, 2009, 02:20:56 PM
IN Lunatic. 2 deaths all the way up to Reisen. i still manage to fuck up and game over on Hourai Jewel due to a horrible Reisen fight, a horrible Kaguya fight. Oh deathbombing Three treasures Country sucked as well, same Lifespring Infinity. getting rid of either of those would have allowed a 1cc. Or not having this happen.

Edit: Actually Salamander Shield was a death.

1/0 going Hourai Jewel. Die, clipdeathbomb, clipdeathbomb, clipdeath.

I was so fucking close.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SupahVee1234 on December 29, 2009, 02:32:04 PM
I'll capture midboss Kogasa's spell card this time, it isn't hard, I just have to pass through this bullet, now this one, now thiAOIHNO=DSAHJN'0fsj09i<jeda9u3q5nmpfhpohm
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on December 29, 2009, 03:25:36 PM
I don't think I've ever screamed like I just did. Trying to beat my highscore on UFO Extra, do the best I've ever done in the stage, die to the VERY. LAST. BULLET. ON. GRUDGE. BOW. Literally. Nue exploded at the same second I died.

Forget "Bonus failed", it should just have a message that says:

You Fail.
-24,000,000.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 29, 2009, 03:27:07 PM
I don't think I've ever screamed like I just did. Trying to beat my highscore on UFO Extra, do the best I've ever done in the stage, die to the VERY. LAST. BULLET. ON. GRUDGE. BOW. Literally. Nue exploded at the same second I died.

Forget "Bonus failed", it should just have a message that says:

You Fail.
-24,000,000.
Brofist, so hard.
I would get 400m, got a perfect Nue battle....well, almost. I wish Grudge Bow wasn't so random.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on December 29, 2009, 05:22:14 PM
Oh my God...

Best LLS extra pacifist run ever.
Had 4/0 going into Gengetu spark. Cue two deaths in two seconds. I even dodged a full wave of Gengetu spark timeout phase...

Still OK, still OK. I still had 2/2 left, enough for GRT.

*clip*

I'm this close to just uploading that run with 2/2 going into GRT and just say "screw it".
That was suppose to be a fucking clear.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 29, 2009, 05:35:09 PM
Don't give up Jaimers. ;_; Just think how happy you'll be once you pull it off.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on December 29, 2009, 06:20:27 PM
Don't give up Jaimers. ;_; Just think how happy you'll be once you pull it off.

Gengetu~

Anyway, I just figured out the problem to the slowdown in T98 Next.
I tried to run it on an older computer with lower specs than my own computer and it worked perfectly. That computer had XP.
So the problem is Vista and Win 7 related. ...joyous.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 29, 2009, 06:26:26 PM
I still had ridiculous slowdown on Next with my old XP computer. No reasonable reason for it either due to how low PC98 requirements are. I just blame Next for being crap.

Anex 86 works fine outside of no savestates, and I wouldn't use those on a nonpractice run anyway. Just need to find out how to record it.

Would be nice to get Next to be slowdown free so I could stage practice at full speed.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 29, 2009, 06:28:40 PM
Gengetu~

Anyway, I just figured out the problem to the slowdown in T98 Next.
I tried to run it on an older computer with lower specs than my own computer and it worked perfectly. That computer had XP.
So the problem is Vista and Win 7 related. ...joyous.

... \o/

:(

Also Enigma, Hypercam is perfect for recording PC-98.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on December 29, 2009, 08:17:41 PM
Just had several IN runs get ended by getting hit during Wriggle's midboss spell which happens a lot more than it should or getting hit by Mystia. One got ended by getting hit by the part after midboss Keine.

Maybe I should take a break from this.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Silent Harmony on December 29, 2009, 09:16:09 PM
Ok, anybody who thinks PCB (on lower difficulties) is easier than EoSD can officially shove it, unless I'm completely missing something. The bullet density difference between the two is staggering.


EDIT: AUGH! FUCK YOU CHEEEEEEEEEEEEN!
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: P♂ zeal on December 29, 2009, 10:12:54 PM
EOSD normal run with reimu B.
Goes pretty good.
I beat first four stages with one death. yay.
to sakuya I lose two lives. Okay.
Remi fight starts off good.
Opener, catch.
star of david, catch.
Things go well until scarlet shoot.
I lose TWO LIVES. FFFFFFFFFFFF
okay I can do red magic with-*spoon*
okay... one life left.
bomb.
bomb.
oh fuck no bo-*spoon*
*RAGE*
I JUST FRICKEN BEAT SA AND EOSD KILLS ME D:
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helix ⑨ on December 29, 2009, 11:33:38 PM
Died on the last ~4 seconds of VoWG (hard version)!~!!
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Seian Verian on December 30, 2009, 07:23:02 PM
ARRRGH! Trying for a no deaths run of PCB Normal. I get all the way to Delusion of Enlightenment just fine, but then... I RAM HER WHILE SHE'S FREAKING STANDING STILL!!!

*headdesk*
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: P♂ zeal on December 30, 2009, 07:30:21 PM
ran into an UNMOVING BULLET on perfect freeze.
...I of course, ragequit
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: RainfallYoshi on December 30, 2009, 07:37:52 PM
Ok, anybody who thinks PCB (on lower difficulties) is easier than EoSD can officially shove it, unless I'm completely missing something. The bullet density difference between the two is staggering.


EDIT: AUGH! FUCK YOU CHEEEEEEEEEEEEN!

Reimu vs Lunasa = DEATH BY SUFFOCATION.

Seriously, wtf Lunasa. You spawn bullets 2 inches away from me.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on December 30, 2009, 07:42:25 PM
Yep, screw this.

/me "effortlessly" does a 1DNB run of Yumeko and ignores the error

EDIT: 1DNB Shinki FFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on December 30, 2009, 11:58:31 PM
WHAT ? WHAT ? WHAT ?
Failed an EoSD easy 1cc...
No Focus No bomb but I FAILED AN EOSD EASY RUN !
I died 3 TIMES on stage 3 because it was boring and I forgot to dodge
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on December 31, 2009, 01:12:45 AM
I died 3 TIMES on stage 3 because it was boring and I forgot to dodge

BEST.
EXCUSE.
EVER.

 :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Krimmydoodle on December 31, 2009, 01:43:11 AM
Goddamnit.  Failed a No Death/No UFO run of Stage 5 at Complete Clarification on a run where I captured Greatest Treasure.

Fuck me.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 31, 2009, 06:31:55 AM
Dammit Peerless Shit God, you just cost me a perfect Aya battle! D=
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on December 31, 2009, 12:59:50 PM
BEST.
EXCUSE.
EVER.

 :V

It was 2:00 AM...
Why on earth made me want to play Touhou at 2:00 AM ?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on December 31, 2009, 02:01:13 PM
jesus christ suwako

hardest ex boss ever

I don't get horrid river
I don't get red frog
I don't get suwa war

I don't get how did I ever capture froggy when I was still unable to clear hard
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on December 31, 2009, 02:07:50 PM
Wait ... hard ? She's my 2nd Extra clear :(

I cannot capture those either, but there are always bombs.
PLENTY of them :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on December 31, 2009, 04:30:32 PM
Suwako is basically a gimmick boss, and after you realize the correct way to do her spellcards, half of them become easysauce. They're definitely autobombs before that though, and sometimes they might confuse you even if you DO know how to do it.

Kinda like Ran's first spellcard. Although, Suwako is more possible to do then that if you don't know what your supposed to do, and Suwako's cards are more complicated.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on December 31, 2009, 04:44:42 PM
Scarlet Gensokyo no bombs 3 misses what the helllllllllllll.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 31, 2009, 05:49:59 PM
Apparently I have absolutely no idea where my hitbox is anymore.  That was an obscenely horrid run of LLS Extra.

brb failingmylastfinal
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on December 31, 2009, 08:34:06 PM
Did a HRtP lunatic Makai route no bombs test run.

As I imagined, the late stages are absolutely horrible for scoring, and not any easier to survive on than their Jigoku equivalents. If anything, harder. Also, Makai 19 gave me what, two lives for perfecting it - yes, comboing every single panel on the level gives you considerably less than a half-assed Jigoku 19.

13 continues, 11 vs. Sariel - and that's after watching Donut's video and realizing that her second form is a joke, and learning how to do her shooting star phase, and understanding how to survive the sweeping bullet curtain when it comes to the corner you're on, etc, etc, fffffff Sariel.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on December 31, 2009, 08:38:59 PM
sonofab-

that would have been an all cards captured Byakuren run if I hadn't died when Devil's Recitation cleared

goddamnit

I hate this game

EDIT:

goddamnit

UFO is so goddamn stupid it's not even funny

I still cannot get past stage 3 on Hard

Stage

Three
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Seian Verian on December 31, 2009, 09:07:20 PM
goddamnit

UFO is so goddamn stupid it's not even funny

I still cannot get past stage 3 on Hard

Stage

Three

This is EXACTLY what it's like for me as well. Heck, I can rarely get past stage ONE without using two bombs, and always at least one. Nazrin's boss cards are mean...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 01, 2010, 12:09:50 AM
I still cannot get past stage 3 on Hard

Stage

Three

I'm glad I'm not the only one >_>

This is EXACTLY what it's like for me as well. Heck, I can rarely get past stage ONE without using two bombs, and always at least one. Nazrin's boss cards are mean...

Now that you mentioned Nazrin.
I captured her's last card, TWICE.
And never actually saved the replays.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chen on January 01, 2010, 01:54:25 AM
Shoot the bullet madness.
Aya should get a better camera.
And maybe buy a new hit-box.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 01, 2010, 02:11:22 AM
I thought Story of Eastern Wonderland was supposed to be the worst Touhou game. Then I tried HRtP. Fuck this game. I can get to Stage 10 of Normal on one credit then spam continues just to get to stage 10 of Normal.

The controls are complete crap as I bomb when I don't mean to, the orb is uncontrollable, and the hitboxes are completely fucked up more than SoEW.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 01, 2010, 02:19:20 AM
pc98 is unplayable garbage
fix'd
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 01, 2010, 02:20:56 AM
Lotus Land Story and Mystic Square are actually playable and fun.

It's HRtP, SoEW, and PoDD that are complete crap.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Danielu Yoshikoto on January 01, 2010, 02:36:42 AM
PoFV Entra Mode... gosh darn that Shikieiki and her ability to multiply bullets
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6641

EDIT: fixed my language...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Furienify on January 01, 2010, 03:05:20 AM
UFO mechanic can die in a fire.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 01, 2010, 03:45:43 AM
I failed Peerless Wind God at one second. ONE SECOND.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lybydose on January 01, 2010, 05:05:47 AM
Stage 5 UFO Lunatic.

I'm so terrible at this stage that I usually game over IN PRACTICE MODE.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 01, 2010, 05:09:59 AM
Stage 5 UFO Lunatic.

I'm so terrible at this stage that I usually game over IN PRACTICE MODE.

Learn to beat the first half without bombing. Once you memorize it, everything before Nazrin is completely trivial and you can get 4 bombs 100% of the time by chaining correctly. Then just use those four bombs to reach Syou, and you can do the entire stage portion no deaths pretty consistently. You're on your own for Syou though.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lybydose on January 01, 2010, 05:13:28 AM
Learn to beat the first half without bombing. Once you memorize it, everything before Nazrin is completely trivial and you can get 4 bombs 100% of the time by chaining correctly. Then just use those four bombs to reach Syou, and you can do the entire stage portion no deaths pretty consistently. You're on your own for Syou though.

Wait what?  Four bombs to reach Syou?  Actually forming UFOs in the first half?  whaaaaaat

I usually manage to make all of zero UFOs in the first half, die 12 times to Radiant Greatest whatever Treasure, do the 2nd half without bombing (except the very end), then either die or bomb to every single attack Syou uses (EXCEPT AURA OF JUSTICE WHICH I TIME OUT).  Usually if I die to anything I'll bomb immediately upon respawning.

Of course, none of this matters anyway because I could reach Legendary Flying Saucer with 8 lives in stock and game over.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 01, 2010, 05:19:12 AM
I can make a replay if you want to see how to chain those UFOs together.

As for LFO, I figured out my ultimate strategy! What you do, see, is you make sure the waves overlap as little as possible. Since they are made to concentrate on the spot they are fired, while staying as centered as possible, alternate between two vertical points about

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apart. By doing this, you minimalize the amount of bullets you have to dodge, and I've already captured it twice with this method.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 01, 2010, 05:41:23 AM
what hit me

what hit me

how did I die

what hit me

goddamnit

game over on Orin

what hit me
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 01, 2010, 05:46:09 AM
Secretly Inherited Walls of Danmaku. WHAT THE HELL IS WITH THIS THING'S HEALTH ? I survived THREE walls, and *clips*

And where did that -1 come from (http://safebooru.donmai.us/post/show/589165/amaterasu-formless_god-okami-tagme) sdflsdjflkdsglj
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 01, 2010, 06:42:26 AM
Come on SoEW Extra, you're not supposed to be that easy, right?

That was no fun at all. Didn't bother with a screenshot; and I wasn't recording because of a routine Virus Scan, and didn't want to "risk" slowing down the game as I was playing. Powered through the Green Blobs as if they weren't there; guess I got a bit lucky? The fact that I also powered through all of EES' phases didn't help either (I only saw 2 cycles of each attack in all honesty; the last phase is a joke and really, really easy). Hopefully, it will be more of a challenge with another Shot Type. Like I dunno... Defense / Movement?

Posting here in advance that both of the above mentioned Shot Types will have difficulty with the Green Blobs, and will cause many, many restarts. I do recall Movement being able to penetrate at Max Power so it should be theoretically possible. Defense is out of the question though.

EDIT: induring... my fun, fun moments of restarting.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 01, 2010, 06:56:16 AM
Herp a derp bloody derp.  Finally got to stage 4...with no lives, of course.

EDIT: Three lives.  Game over on Dipper Creeping Close.  Helped that I died TWICE to bullets I didn't see with two bombs each on Sinkable Vortex.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 01, 2010, 07:22:38 AM
Come on SoEW Extra, you're not supposed to be that easy, right?

That was no fun at all. Didn't bother with a screenshot; and I wasn't recording because of a routine Virus Scan, and didn't want to "risk" slowing down the game as I was playing. Powered through the Green Blobs as if they weren't there; guess I got a bit lucky? The fact that I also powered through all of EES' phases didn't help either (I only saw 2 cycles of each attack in all honesty; the last phase is a joke and really, really easy). Hopefully, it will be more of a challenge with another Shot Type. Like I dunno... Defense / Movement?

Posting here in advance that both of the above mentioned Shot Types will have difficulty with the Green Blobs, and will cause many, many restarts. I do recall Movement being able to penetrate at Max Power so it should be theoretically possible. Defense is out of the question though.

EDIT: induring... my fun, fun moments of restarting.

Just want to point out that you didn't say what you did OR what shot types you were talking about. Nobody knows them by "defense" or "movement."
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 01, 2010, 07:41:53 AM
Just want to point out that you didn't say what you did OR what shot types you were talking about. Nobody knows them by "defense" or "movement."
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Story_of_Eastern_Wonderland:_Gameplay#Character_Statistics
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 01, 2010, 08:12:46 AM
THE A B C SYSTEM MOTHERFUCKER. DO YOU SPEAK IT?

You STILL haven't told us WHAT you did that you were disappointed about. :P
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Furienify on January 01, 2010, 08:48:02 AM
    Reimu Type A
    高機動タイプ (Movement Type)
    

    Reimu Type B
    防御タイプ (Defense Type)
 

    Reimu Type C
    攻撃タイプ (Attack Type)

He used C and was disappointed at how easy it was, according to my translation.

I think there was also a 'SCREW YOU I'M A DRAGON' in there but I may be paraphrasing heavily.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 01, 2010, 09:02:56 AM
Yyyyyep. I refuse to attempt to no death SoEW extra until I learn how to do these "macros" and make it so that I don't have to tap the button. It's always so annoying because I suck at tapping buttons rapidly, and I can't tap it fast enough to do max damage. It's just as bad as Canary Mary! D=
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 01, 2010, 09:26:45 AM
You STILL haven't told us WHAT you did that you were disappointed about. :P
I should've been a lot more specific; but I thought you would've gotten the message from the general feel of it.

Perfect
. Hence the repeated use of the word "powered". It was overkill, really  ;_;

EDIT:
Yyyyyep. I refuse to attempt to no death SoEW extra until I learn how to do these "macros" and make it so that I don't have to tap the button. It's always so annoying because I suck at tapping buttons rapidly, and I can't tap it fast enough to do max damage. It's just as bad as Canary Mary! D=
:baitydwi: (NTS: make one later)

I don't use any form of macro / autofire, just so you know. Because I personally think it's cheating.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 01, 2010, 11:26:40 AM
Quote
Baity complains about silly things

Then do a no double tapping perfect. (Boss only)
That is sure to make the phases last longer.
Not sure whether the stage is possible no double tapping though.

Is it possible to pacifist EES?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on January 01, 2010, 01:12:20 PM
Damn. EoSD just for whatever reason started with a huge load of lag. How am i supposed to do a Lunatic 1cc like that? >:(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on January 01, 2010, 03:12:39 PM
Yyyyyep. I refuse to attempt to no death SoEW extra until I learn how to do these "macros" and make it so that I don't have to tap the button. It's always so annoying because I suck at tapping buttons rapidly, and I can't tap it fast enough to do max damage. It's just as bad as Canary Mary! D=
I never noticed any different amount of bullets firing when I just tap it a few times a second, or RAPESPEEDTAPSTORM the Z key. Testing using ReimuC max power, because its really easy to tell with the red lasers.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: P♂ zeal on January 01, 2010, 03:42:24 PM
FFFF KOISHI
I fight through the stage no prob, no deaths and all.
Dodges first nospell.
Captures Ancestors beside your bed.
Dodges second nonspell.
Captures Danmaku paranoia.
FFFFFF clipdeath on third nonspell.
Captures Release of the Id.
FFFF WHY AM I DYING ON HER NONSPELLS BUT NOT HER CARD.
Dies once to super ego.
dodge fifth nonspell.
Okay youkai polygraph. sure it's my frist time but I've seen videos of i- FFFFF CLIPDEATH.
D:
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 01, 2010, 05:50:55 PM
I never noticed any different amount of bullets firing when I just tap it a few times a second, or RAPESPEEDTAPSTORM the Z key. Testing using ReimuC max power, because its really easy to tell with the red lasers.

Let's put it this way: Tapping my normal way I with Reimu C I can kill maybe two of the big power dropping enemies during the wall section. By kicking moving to the curb and putting all effort into double tapping, I can kill five of them. Considering I can NEVER get full power by the green blobs this is a significant difference.

EDIT: Also Jaimers, I'm not sure if it's possible to pacifist Evil Eye Sigma. I know that the first three bosses are able to be pacifist'd, but From a savestate I used to learn Mima's patterns, I discovered that no matter what, you can't time Mima out, so the same might be true of Evil Eye Sigma.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 01, 2010, 06:15:31 PM
EDIT: Also Jaimers, I'm not sure if it's possible to pacifist Evil Eye Sigma. I know that the first three bosses are able to be pacifist'd, but From a savestate I used to learn Mima's patterns, I discovered that no matter what, you can't time Mima out, so the same might be true of Evil Eye Sigma.

Yeah, I don't think it's possible. I was dicking around on EES's second phase without shooting and it just didn't end. I dodged like 10 waves or something and there was still no end in sight.

Also you only need 2 or 3 big powerups from the wall section in order to get max power before the green blob's.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 01, 2010, 06:50:28 PM
Then do a no double tapping perfect. (Boss only)

Not sure whether the stage is possible no double tapping though.
I have a better idea. Screw the perfect Extra run that I was trying to do. This "new" one will be much more fun. And interesting. And no, you're not going to find out unless I can actually pull it off  :V

Stage is possible without double tapping... but you have to be lucky about the spawns of the blobs. Really lucky.

EDIT: Regarding my "idea"; it works. It's "plausible".
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 01, 2010, 07:45:56 PM
I just died 6 or 7 times to Lunatic Eirin in Stage Practice, one of them being right when Astronomical Entombing ended. That fight is a load of crap.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 01, 2010, 08:25:35 PM
My laptop can run Crysis without a hitch.

It cannot run the SA Phantasm Danmakufu script without lagging to 45FPS. :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 01, 2010, 08:39:09 PM
Wow, Evil Eye is a lot more manageable if you can reach him with full power. The difference between full power and yellow power is ridiculous, especially since bosses don't drop power items in this game (other than those set moments).

See, I have a problem spot in the stage: The part after the star section. I don't know why, but I have an inability to survive this part without bombing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 01, 2010, 08:45:07 PM
I use the left corner. You only need to move out of the corner when a "tumbleweed" comes down from the middle and shoots a ring; which only happens twice  :V

EDIT: Also, requesting that you change your avatar to this (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=7948171).
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 01, 2010, 09:54:39 PM
possible to beat lunatic shiki in match mode without broken chars y/n
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 01, 2010, 11:37:40 PM
Argh, I keep doing 1DNB runs of UFO stage 3 hard with Sanae B. I want to make a video to see if I can finally steer people on how to beat this stage (since convincing the lot of you to switch to Reimu simply does not work), but I keep screwing up in one spot or another.

EDIT: Screw it. How the hell do you people not realize how much of a handicap Sanae's hitbox is? The only reason you don't think it is is because you've never given Reimu an extended play.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 01, 2010, 11:52:58 PM
can anyone explain me how do you play PoDD lunatic

EVERYTHING goes into your face
the stars, the whatever, EVERYTHING

Also ZUN LET US CREDITFEED YOU DRUNK FUCK

I DON'T WANT TO PLAY ST3 UFO 50 TIMES SO I CAN DICK AROUND IN PRACTICE MODE
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 02, 2010, 12:05:17 AM
I'd rather play PoFV. At least I can dodge crap on that. Lack of Focus + almost nonexistant bullet clearing + BS attacks are just no fun. I have no idea how I 1cc'd PoDD on Normal and got close on Hard.

Edit: Tool Assisted Slowdown? I'm sure it'd be very possible for even me to unlock the stages like that.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 02, 2010, 12:16:34 AM
PoDD is fun stuff (though I had to 1cc it on lunatic before I truly saw that), much more than PoFV. It relies much more on your dodging skills rather than praying that you'll get off a level 2 spell before the game shits you out, not to mention the AI doesn't have that cheapass "lol I'll dodge everything you have until you lose once" mechanic. It requires you to develop a different strategy for winning than PoFV does, and for you to learn the boss attacks.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 02, 2010, 12:41:25 AM
can anyone explain me how do you play PoDD lunatic

EVERYTHING goes into your face
the stars, the whatever, EVERYTHING

the whatever

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4641/gonzowhatever.jpg)

I can definitely see a resemblance
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 02, 2010, 01:07:00 AM
learn the boss attacks.
::)

Now that I think about it, I don't really care about Touhou that much.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 02, 2010, 01:21:19 AM
I hate PoFV blargleblargblarg
:V

I don't understand the appeal in PoD.D either, to be honest. No focus is just nerve-wracking, and I've never actually beaten the AI, I think. Apparently it's much more "fair" than PoFV (as if PoFV even pretends to be fair :V), but PoFV is just fun. It's endless dodging combined with knowing when to bomb. PoD.D is just...ugh D:

I can see why you'd like it, but I'll take my Yukas and Sakuyas over your Ellens and Rikakos any day.

(PoD.D's soundtrack is awesome though)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 02, 2010, 01:27:45 AM
Once you play it for a while you don't even notice the lack of focus. There are a lot fewer bullets in PoDD anyway. FYI, I 1cc'd with Yumemi, who is one of the fastest characters, and I HATE fast characters usually.

Anyway, AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH. I hate Baity and Jaimers for making me try and get serious about SoEW extra no deaths (though at least it won't detract from the enjoyment; there never was any in the first place :V). My success is dicated by whether or not I mashed hard enough on the wall section, Reimu C (the only one who can possibly do this no deaths) runs into bullets that anyone else would have outran, and now I've suddenly forgotten where to position myself to dodge the final section before the stage goes red. Baity, help? :< Screenshot preferred.

And I haven't even REACHED Evil Eye Sigma without dying with Reimu C.

*makes a note to use this rage to write chapter 3 of my story after revising chapter 2*
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 02, 2010, 01:29:36 AM
I don't understand the appeal in PoD.D either, to be honest. No focus is just nerve-wracking, and I've never actually beaten the AI, I think. Apparently it's much more "fair" than PoFV (as if PoFV even pretends to be fair :V), but PoFV is just fun. It's endless dodging combined with knowing when to bomb. PoD.D is just...ugh D:

It's endless dodging combined with knowing when to bomb.
If that doesn't describe PoDD I don't know what does. The thing is that in PoFV it's much, much easier to know when to bomb; you should bomb *always*. In PoDD you must know when to eat a bullet - not when to risk eating a bullet, but when to choose to get hit with 100% certainty instead of bombing.


edit: another thing is that the fact that only 6 people in the west are know to have 1cc'ed PoDD lunatic should tell you something, three of these being Donut, Baity and Jaimers, and a fourth being a certain someone who's known for being very good at these games nobody cares about.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 02, 2010, 01:35:52 AM
Lunatic Hourai Elixir 4 seconds left on the timer 5 times in a row. And before that I got it down to 3 seconds left on the timer which is very rare for me. I'm nearly up to 270 attempts on this damn spell right now.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 02, 2010, 01:41:40 AM
where to position myself to dodge the final section before the stage goes red. Baity, help? :< Screenshot preferred.
Err... just stand still? If it's pacifist-related like what I did, then it's the right side.

Better hope that I'm talking about the right spot  :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 02, 2010, 01:43:19 AM
It's the last spot before the blobs. A specific screenshot would be great.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 02, 2010, 02:12:51 AM
So it was the spot I was talking about  :V

(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl11.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=359&u=12803292)

Red cross is the recommended spot as it allows you to collect Power. Blue cross is the pacifist safespot. Ignore the fact that I wasn't standing on it, because it was a rushed job.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 02, 2010, 02:30:18 AM
Fourth tile from the corner, got it. Thanks bro. o/

But you know, this time I got all the way to the preboss spam, when I remembered the hard way that Reimu C is SO slow she can't even do my method of dodging the attack (moving along the top). >_<

Good news though, I finally captured Evil Eye's last phase. The hitbox bullets have thwarted every attempt before now.

EDIT: PBBBBBBT. Another perfect Aya fight thwarted solely by Peerless Wind God. Well, at least I've mostly mastered Aya. It's funny to think there was a time when she was considered the hardest stage 4 boss.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 02, 2010, 03:27:38 AM
If that doesn't describe PoDD I don't know what does.
...derp
how did i forget that :(


This is very true!
I still don't see the appeal in PoD.D; maybe I never will. I just don't think it's fun. Maybe I should give it a serious run and see what happens then...


EDIT: k, tried PoD.D seriously.
-First try, 1cc'd with Kana and felt pretty good about myself, then saw that the game had been set to Easy Mode and cried.
-Second try, played on Normal (again with Kana) and game over'd on Yumemi. Those crosses are deadly when they start stacking up D:
-Marisa's diagonal star attacks are just as terrifying as they are in PoFV and her boss attack is even worse. ;_;

I will 1cc this game on Normal and Hard. ):<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: lumber_of_the_beast on January 02, 2010, 10:57:30 AM
It's nice to know that Sakuya's just as much of a useless bitch in IN as she was in PCB. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 02, 2010, 11:11:47 AM
Was Sakuya ever useful ? :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on January 02, 2010, 11:50:38 AM
At one time Aya was the hardest stage 4 boss??

that's a surprise...

And I'm renewing my efforts to actually beat another touhou game this year.

Either SA or UFO...Which one is easier?

Speaking of Aya though, I find that stage to be one of the most enjoyable touhou stages I've played.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 02, 2010, 12:41:33 PM
But you know, this time I got all the way to the preboss spam, when I remembered the hard way that Reimu C is SO slow she can't even do my method of dodging the attack (moving along the top). >_<

Hmm? I shamelessly directly copied your strategy from your no double tapping vid and it always works?

Either SA or UFO...Which one is easier?

Speaking of Aya though, I find that stage to be one of the most enjoyable touhou stages I've played.

Heavily opinion based. The masses seem to say UFO is harder, but personally I'd say SA is harder.

As for stage 4, just wait until you play it on hard and lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on January 02, 2010, 01:10:26 PM
I heard that UFO has harder stages and SA has harder bosses.

That and the UFO objects in UFO are flying deathtraps...Found that out myself.

Almost got to Ichirin/Yuugi

Actually I got past midboss ichirin, and in SA I got to Yuugi's second spellcard.

Both games annoy me with lasers. Parsee is easier than Kogasa in my opinion.

Then again the only two games I've beaten are PoFV and MoF

MoF with 10 continues

and PoFV with more continues than I can remember.

It doesn't matter how many continues I need, I will eventually beat these games.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 02, 2010, 02:56:56 PM
Death with 3 bombs in stock, death with 1 bomb in stock, death with 3 bombs in stock, death with 3 bombs in stock, death with 2 bombs in stock, the game over was a death with 3 bombs in stock. I was at Boss Sakuya's opener on Hard.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on January 02, 2010, 03:08:03 PM
Strange thing...ever since i cut down on bomb use. (just after my first few times playing touhou)

I start dying with many bombs in stock...

Gotta fix that somehow...

I also tend to die on a bosses second or third spellcard.

Gotta practice more.

Recently died on SA stage 2 easy while testing out applications of teleporting on Parsee with amusing results.

Her midboss non-spell can be made easier by teleport streaming. this tactic also forces me to time-out the midboss fight allowing me to avoid green eyed monster.

I haven't tested all applications yet.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 02, 2010, 03:25:42 PM
Now I just lost a total of 12 bombs, 7 of them being on stage 3 and game overed on Stage 6 Sakuya's nonspell. Then after continuing, I beat Remilia with only one death which is usual for me, 2 at the most.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 02, 2010, 03:52:32 PM
lol this is gay
first nue battle in ages, almost perfect
captured everything, clipped grudge bow 3rd phase, cleared 4th

hurr
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 02, 2010, 04:14:25 PM
1st SA hard attempt, game over on BoWaP...WTF Satori non-spells ? Are they even dodgable ? Also, bombing like crazy is WUT
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: lmagus on January 02, 2010, 04:37:19 PM
ah man I'm getting so bored of trying the same things over and over again.

I can't 1cc SA and UFO hard, and no lunatics... and it's annoying to even try because of damned 1st stages
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 02, 2010, 04:40:08 PM
Try IN Lunatic. I can't even get close on most of the Hard modes and I've almost managed to 1cc this Lunatic. I actually can if I don't keep messing up.


As for Satori's nonspells on Hard. I did mess up once, but the replay will still give you an idea. Everything else was bad.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6729
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 02, 2010, 04:59:42 PM
EoSD Hard.
One miss at Cirno's OPENER, with FOUR BOMBS in stock.
Three misses at Sakuya's stage, ALL with bombs in stock.
One miss at the spell before Vampire Illusion. And it becomes a 2cc.

I did capture Scarlet Gensokyo, though. This thing seems WAY more tame than the Lunatic version.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 02, 2010, 05:10:16 PM
I did capture Scarlet Gensokyo, though. This thing seems WAY more tame than the Lunatic version.
Easier than Red Magic tbh
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 02, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
I got Red Magic on my first try, and upon watching the replay I went "wtf how did I do that".

And that was done months ago >_>
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on January 02, 2010, 05:32:47 PM
Yeah, in Red Magic the bubble bullets bounce off the side of the screen; this makes everything less uniform and more clusterfuck.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 02, 2010, 05:37:53 PM
UFO Stage 5 boss and midboss have curving lasers, also stage 4 is random trajectory hell, it's harder than the boss proper. These are my latest in terms of rage inducers.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 02, 2010, 05:46:26 PM
Reach Stage 5 midboss Sakuya with 3 spare lives. I arrive at Stage 6 with no spare lives and 2 bombs. I knew exactly what was going to happen when I arrived at Scarlet Meister with no bombs.

2 deaths during that entire run where I had 3 bombs in stock. I can 1cc this damn thing on Hard but I keep dying with bombs.

Edit: just had another bad run. Why the hell didn't I bomb Young Demon Lord when I had 2 bombs in stock. At least then I wouldn't have game overed to this. Nice wall there Remilia. Think I had one other death with some bombs as well.

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9862/eosdhardfail.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 02, 2010, 07:19:31 PM
Just failed a Lyrica lunatic 1cc at PoFV.
This was a real shame, because I had an amazing battle with Aya which lasted over 3 minutes.
Also dodged the most dense Shiki wall I've ever seen and not because of luck!

Bleh, had 3 extra lives going into Shiki as well.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on January 02, 2010, 07:24:50 PM
1st SA hard attempt, game over on BoWaP...WTF Satori non-spells ? Are they even dodgable ? Also, bombing like crazy is WUT

It's just playing as Reimu A practice. And Stage 4 on Lunatic makes hard look hilariously easy.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 02, 2010, 07:58:42 PM
It's just playing as Reimu A practice. And Stage 4 on Lunatic makes hard look hilariously easy.
These lasers, Orin.....everything.
Hypnotism sucks, DBDB sucks, Insect Nest sucks, BoWaP sucks. Yeah, that's about it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 02, 2010, 09:01:34 PM
Orin and her stage on Hard. Satori's stage not as much, but she's almost as bad as Orin if not worse. And Yuugi and her stage give me issues as well.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 02, 2010, 09:19:42 PM
I just failed a pacifist EX Alice at her second to last phase because I forgot the pattern. >_<

Pacifist Alice is interesting. Most attacks take over a minute and a half to end, which is really freaking long.
Also to my shock, I found out that Alice's laser phase is not damage based, but time based.
The tiny lasers will spawn regardless and you have to survive that attack for like 73 seconds.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 02, 2010, 09:23:00 PM
I just failed a pacifist EX Alice at her second to last phase because I forgot the pattern. >_<

Pacifist Alice is interesting. Most attacks take over a minute and a half to end, which is really freaking long.
Also to my shock, I found out that Alice's laser phase is not damage based, but time based.
The tiny lasers will spawn regardless and you have to survive that attack for like 73 seconds.

You didn't know that? :V

Spoilers: Alice's last attack has no timeout phase, as that one IS damage based and not time based. I timed it out on a savestate and it was still at the slowest speed when Alice exploded.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: lmagus on January 02, 2010, 10:00:06 PM
Just failed a SA Hard 1cc at subterranean Sun

It was all Orin's fault, died 3 times to her.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 03, 2010, 01:00:15 AM
One miss at Scarlet Meister HARD. HOW !?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Krimmydoodle on January 03, 2010, 02:31:39 AM
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/th_untitled-54.jpg) (http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/untitled-54.jpg)

UFO MarisaB is a shitty fucking shottype.  I've 1cced with every other shot, surely I can at least make it to the last stage.  Shitty shot with a shitty hitbox and a shitty bomb.  Bah.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 03, 2010, 02:45:08 AM
Shitty shot with a shitty hitbox and a shitty bomb.  Bah.
And shitty art.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 03, 2010, 02:51:54 AM
MS lunatic. Yet another game over at Yumeko's blue streams of doom. The usual stupid lossy deaths on stage 4, one attempt at deathbombing vs. Yuki/Mai without having any bombs left, postponed killing the stage 5 midboss a bit too much and missed out on the 1up, and was less than 10 item points away from an extend when the run ended.



And shitty art.
Blasphemy!
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 03, 2010, 02:59:37 AM
Blasphemy!
why does she even have a wand
what is she, Harry Potter?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 03, 2010, 03:00:52 AM
why does she even have a wand
what is she, Harry Potter?

Why does Reimu bring her gohei if she never uses it in the shooters?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Milkyway64 on January 03, 2010, 04:51:38 AM
I can't beat Flandre. I've reveled in one whole victory on her, but past that it's ALWAYS a QED last-second death. ALWAAAYYYYS.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: lmagus on January 03, 2010, 06:23:54 AM
Why does Reimu bring her gohei if she never uses it in the shooters?

I've always asked myself the same question...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 03, 2010, 06:48:01 AM
PoD.D.

Mima decided "y'know what? I don't feel like dying." And so she didn't.

fjdaklfjdkafsljewijfds

this is really hypocritical considering how much i love pofv
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 03, 2010, 10:51:32 AM
ANOTHER 4-deaths Byakuren Lunatic fdsjflsdjflsdlfjsldkj
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on January 03, 2010, 01:49:33 PM
I'm stuck on stage 3 on both SA and UFO.

Both due to laser fests, at least Yuugi's music is better and I can at least consistently get to the stage boss unlike fighting Ichirin where I only occasionally get past the midboss.

ANy tips on how to get better at these games?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 03, 2010, 05:52:58 PM
Died 3 times to Yuugi, mostly failed the next 2 stages. Terrifying Hypnotism, Tengu Macro Burst, and Great Whirlwind are fucking hard, not that ReimuA or MarisaB Satori would be any easier.

On Stage 5, I arrive at Midboss Orin's Cat Sign "Vengeful Cat Spirit's Erratic Step" with no power to bomb with and almost time it out while trying to capture it then die with under a second left.

I can't capture any of boss Orin's spells consistently like on Normal where I could usually capture 2 of them. I sometimes capture the second one.

Despite this, I somehow make it to Utsuho's first spellcard. If I could get rid of the stupid deaths elsewhere I could 1cc. But Yugi and all of the next 2 stages are just hard for me.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on January 03, 2010, 06:44:16 PM
LSI.
LFO.


One's an impossible request.
The other's just IMPOSSIBLE.

*bangs head against wall*
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 03, 2010, 08:52:13 PM
Subterranean Animism Stage 4 Hard one death. That should have been a no death run of the stage in practice, but I died on Terrifying Hypnotism.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 03, 2010, 09:35:55 PM
MS lunatic. No deaths until stage 4, then one death because I mistook a red round bullet from the first bunch of red bullet shooting fairies for a power item and simply ignored it, and later one stupid death to Yuki/Mai (aren't all deaths to Yuki/Mai stupid?).

Then I managed to die to the stage 5 midboss (WHAT), whom I then killed waaay too early leading to a lossy death during the stage, followed by a death with full bombs to Yumeko's first phase, and then the usual meltdown at blue streams which I did get past this time due a combination of still having some lives to lose there and twice surviving being trapped inside the triple-streams.

And then I somehow lost my last life to the pre-Shinki circles. Seriously. Two bombs in stock here. Somewhat far from the 400 point items extend as well.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Snaka on January 03, 2010, 09:38:54 PM
POFV Extra, Shikeiki. No lives, 5 seconds...
I use a L2 bomb, get a boss attack on Shiki's screen, yes, I'm going to win this.
SLAM! HELLO WHITE BULLET THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 03, 2010, 09:42:24 PM
The concept of no deathing Marisa A Patchouli is kind of insulting. It's basically saying "hey, I have five spell cards, and if you did the stage right you'll have 3 bombs. All I ask is that you capture two of my spell cards, and one of mine is already pretty easy. So out of four spell cards, just capture one and you can bomb spam the rest of me."

I've.

Never.

Done.

It. I didn't put her above Satori on my hardest list because it's just rank related, but on max rank Marisa A Patchouli is probably the hardest boss in the series. It doesn't help that a whopping 3 spell cards use those shitty flame bullets with the impossible to figure out hitboxes.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 03, 2010, 11:49:21 PM
Another 3 death IN Extra clear.

I want a no deaths run damn it.

Deathbomb Mokou's first card because I suck at it and get clipped by stuff.

Die right as I do the damage needed to go from a nonspell to Flaw of Forgiving Shrine.

Deathbomb and die on Hollow Giant "Woo"

Die to the rings of death

Capture Fujiyama Volcano and Possessed by Phoenix.

Then deathbomb on easy Hourai Doll twice.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 04, 2010, 01:43:35 AM
CAPTAIN CHEATINGSONOFA MURASA

WHAT

THE

HELL

WAS

THAT

I think I died four times, all with at least two bombs, on not a SINGLE BULLET I COULD SEE

including one that would have had to have been OFF THE SCREEN to have killed me

and game over on Stage 5 because of a BS clip as Basket-Lazors cleared, followed by two instadeaths the moment my bombs wore off

I HATE THIS GAME

SO MUCH

SO MUCH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: lmagus on January 04, 2010, 01:51:21 AM
I feel your pain, I HATE MURASA
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Scarlet Moon on January 04, 2010, 01:52:19 AM
- two BS deaths on stage 4

- BS clip death on the last spell of the Prismrivers after dropping their health bar to 1
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: lmagus on January 04, 2010, 02:38:27 AM
Multiple mistakes made me game over at Yuyuko

I feel so powerless, I have reached her over 20 times and I'm still to 1cc the damn game.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 04, 2010, 03:52:39 AM
Botched the recording of a MS lunatic 1cc
Youtube is messing up a Mt. Ooe timeout video
Can't record in-game sound and mic at the same time

WHAT THE HELL COMPUTERS


also tried Dodonpachi
what the hell
WHAT THE HELL
8cc or something
WHAT THE HELL
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 04, 2010, 04:35:03 AM
no no NO NO NO NO NO NO

MURASA

WHAT

THE CRAP

once again

four deaths, all with two or more bombs

all on her second card and third noncard

'sfunny, 'cause I perfected everything else except one bomb - also a best - on Dipper Creeping Close

seriously goddamnit all
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 04, 2010, 05:51:51 AM
Here's my history for "End of Imperishable Night -11 o' Clock-":

In Spell Practice: 4/4
In full stage runs: 0/6

What the hell is wrong with me? I'm this close to perfecting all of IN Easy, and I can't cap it when it counts.

And Marisa, why must you be so hard as a boss? Spell Practice means nothing when doing "minimalist" streaming on your last regular spell card (on Normal) can't even get past your randomly positioned lasers consistently.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 04, 2010, 03:33:14 PM
I just failed a Subterranean Animism Hard 1cc on Subterranean Sun. Just because I died 3-4 times on Orin and died on the lolsafeheight card.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 04, 2010, 03:39:52 PM
UFO NORMAL, got to stage 5 and CURVING LASERS FDGJFDJFDGJSDJ
K got to Shou with no lives and 1 bomb and NAZRIN'S SPAM CARD ON STEROIDS,

 DAMN IT TO HELL

IT'S JUST NORMAL FFS
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Menreiki on January 04, 2010, 07:05:28 PM
SA Hard's Satori is actually harder than Orin and Utusho for me. I always end up losing 3 lives just in the boss phase while just 1 live on Orin and Utsuho each (sometimes none).
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Generalguy on January 04, 2010, 08:20:19 PM
The lag I get from Unzan's spellcards, and from Murasa's "I shoot anchors everywhere" spellcard. It's almost always an autobomb because the speed changes randomly.

At least the school computers are powerful enough for me to play without lag.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 04, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
PCB Normal.

Stages 1 and 2, no problem. Stage 3, deathbombed Foggy London Dolls; no big deal. Stage 4, made some careless mistakes on Lunasa's third nonspell and Concerto Grosso, but I'm still confident.

Stage 5... Seriously, how do you die TWICE to Delusion of Enlightenment, of all things?! Not to mention all the cards I should have just bombed anyway. Stage 6, I just stopped paying attention out of anger, Yuyuko finally swatted me down on Swallowtail Butterfly. >_<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 04, 2010, 10:55:06 PM
Perfect stage 6 ruined by the very last red wave of Resurrection Butterfly. :<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 05, 2010, 03:24:02 AM
Border of Wave and Particle(Hard) just killed me 5 times in practice. Whenever I fail trying to capture it in practice which is every time, I just try to time the thing out.

Too bad I clip pretty much everything on it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 05, 2010, 09:01:20 AM
guess when I died

as QED cleared

I still managed to top my old high score

GODDAMNIT
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 05, 2010, 09:42:51 AM
I got killed by 80% Reflowering FOUR times what the hell.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 05, 2010, 03:19:55 PM
Safespot Border of Wave and Particle successfully after failing to capture it. So I wait until the time was almost up to finish the spell, I don't move or anything and I die as she is defeated. What the fuck?

Then I proceed to fail a lot on Stage 5 so that I end up 1ccing SA Hard with ReimuA on my last life instead of with several spare lives like it should have been. Well, that's 2 Hard 1ccs down for this game, but still what the fuck?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on January 05, 2010, 06:20:06 PM
Captured LFO Hard with ease at the end of a run.

Rageworthy because it ended 5 previous runs with multiple deaths. And this run had the worst Stage 3 of the lot.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Krimmydoodle on January 05, 2010, 07:12:54 PM
Bah, PCB Stage 4, Lily timeout, full Lunasa, one death.  The death was to one of the nameless fairies toward the end that come from the left and right and fire aimed clusters of blue or red bullets.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on January 05, 2010, 10:14:15 PM
I can't be the only person who dies to Luize's laser every time, right?

...right?  :-\
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 05, 2010, 10:37:59 PM
I can't be the only person who dies to Luize's laser every time, right?

...right?  :-\
I don't even know who Luize is :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 05, 2010, 10:46:54 PM
Another run ends on Murasa, I'm starting to lose hope. I even played safe and used all the bombs for the risky spells, being on my last life, then remembered: THE SURVIVAL CARD. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 05, 2010, 10:50:01 PM
I don't even remember whether that was LLS or MS. But those lasers are an autobomb for me.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: orinrin on January 05, 2010, 11:13:45 PM
Its always fun to die AS you clear a spellcard.
Especially someone's last spell card on the last stage.
Especially when its also your last life.
FFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 06, 2010, 03:02:04 AM
So I tried Concealed the Conclusion.

What the hell is up with this game?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 06, 2010, 04:34:54 AM
I can't be the only person who dies to Luize's laser every time, right?

...right?  :-\

You are not.

Dear GOD you are not. The laser hitboxes in Mystic Square makes the ones post-IN seem conservative.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 06, 2010, 04:49:41 AM
Tried 3 extras with No Focus. Koishi, made it up to the first heart card. Ran, made it up to Charming Siege. Mokou, made it up to Xu Fu's Dimension. I suck at No Focus.

But I got hit on the Flying Phoenix card which caused me to lose all rythm causing me to die twice. Deathbombed her first card as well. Xu Fu's Dimension was crap. Either move up a little bit from the bottom and get hit by familiars or move up more than that and get hit by amulet bullets.

I couldn't do well on the stage portions of any of them without focus.


What's the easiest No Focus Extra anyway? I want to do one of those.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 06, 2010, 05:45:20 AM
Everything.

EVERYTHING.

D:
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 06, 2010, 05:50:56 AM
I find it funny that more often than not, when I die on the Catwalk, I end up killing Orin earlier than when I capture it. Is this some demented way of teaching me to learn how to read Orin's attacks?

I also had way too many "WTF I moved in time!" moments when practicing SA Stage 5 Hard. Either my physical reflexes have dumbed down 'cause it's late, or the game really isn't picking up my movements properly. I kinda hope its the former - I don't have much tolerance for technical malfunctions.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 06, 2010, 07:04:16 AM
Zun wasn't drunk when he tuned PCB's difficulty.

HE WAS ON DRUGS GODDAMIT WTF IS STAGE 4 AND YOUMU'S OPENERS AND HALF OF CHEN'S CARDS AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH.

Fucking game over on Yuyuko, which I guess counts as "improvement" since my last game over was on Youmu, but still....

EDIT:
Switched from homing (Sak A) to Damage (Rei B) after giving up on my "no hitbox syndrome" drive. 1cced past Prismriver for the first time!

Why am I here?

Well, got all the way to Yuyuko on 2 continues, died on her 3rd card....

and accidentally told the game to not use my last continue.

;_:
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 06, 2010, 04:57:31 PM
UFO Extra. What the hell is killing me? I've been trying a no death run and I've only managed to make it to Nue once. Every other time I got killed and I'm sure nothing even touched my hitbox. If I wanted this kind of crap, I'd play HRtP or SoEW.

Edit: Just tried PoFV Extra No Deaths again and only made it to stage 6 once. Tried a new strategy as well and apparantly the timer freezes if you try to cheap it out by being pacifist to avoid filling the screens forcing you to shoot occasionally, so that doesn't work either.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 06, 2010, 07:52:48 PM
Just did a run of LLS Hard, after not playing it in months, and never on Hard. I got through Stages 1-4 with no deaths and only one bomb!

Then I lost five lives to Reimu and game overed as Yuka was exploding, since I forgot about Yuka Spark. fjskfsdfjsdlfkalkjslffads
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on January 07, 2010, 01:29:19 AM
You are not.

Dear GOD you are not. The laser hitboxes in Mystic Square makes the ones post-IN seem conservative.
After making that post I went on to find that Mai's lasers still have hitboxes after for a brief moment after they start rotating again :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 07, 2010, 02:26:31 AM
Tried another MS lunatic run in hopes of repeating the awesome Shinki fight from the previous one and getting it on video.

Got to Shinki 3/0 (without the 400 extend, of course), clipped something in her first phase, royally screwed up during Cheetos Lasers (and I am one of the three or four people that find Cheetos Lasers easy), game over before the hard part of Devil's Recitation. Either way the run had already lost its purpose.  :(

And Yumeko's blue streams are still as undecipherable to me as ever. I imagine you're supposed to change directions between the two lasers, but obviously there's something else I'm missing. Better reflexes, probably.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on January 07, 2010, 02:38:22 AM
Got to Shinki 3/0 (without the 400 extend, of course), clipped something in her first phase, royally screwed up during Cheetos Lasers (and I am one of the three or four people that find Cheetos Lasers easy), game over before the hard part of Devil's Recitation. Either way the run had already lost its purpose.  :(
Is it just my imagination, or can you shotgun Shinki during the cheeto laser phase?

I would like the Shinki fight better without that random white bullet spam after she opens her wings.  (no, not the initial burst)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 07, 2010, 02:42:13 AM
Mountain of Faith Lunatic. What the fuck. Pretty much everything is an autobomb. I managed to continue spam my way to stage 6 but couldn't clear it because of Virtue of Bullshit Wind God so now I'm going to go watch a stage 6 replay

Peerless Wind God is bullshit as well. Stage 5 is actually somewhat fair but still had a few autobombs.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 07, 2010, 02:51:05 AM
Is it just my imagination, or can you shotgun Shinki during the cheeto laser phase?
You can't, because there are cheetos spawning straight down from the center. I also believe Shinki's cheetos can make sharper turns than Alice's just after they spawn, which would allow them to reach you and quickly dislodge you from a shotgunning position, but in short, no you can't.

I would like the Shinki fight better without that random white bullet spam after she opens her wings.  (no, not the initial burst)
Maybe you've noticed the big bullets fall straight down. Use this to your advantage.



Mountain of Faith Lunatic. What the fuck. Pretty much everything is an autobomb.
Even on lunatic it's possible to autobomb pretty much everything and get to stage 6 with something to spare. It's also possible to get to Kanako with four lives and still fail to clear it because you've been bombing everything for almost half an hour and your reflexes have fallen asleep in the meantime, and will not come back all of a sudden in time for VoWG. orz
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 07, 2010, 08:45:23 AM
Lovely. My MoF score.dat has been erased, rather than just corrupted. -_-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 07, 2010, 02:51:29 PM
Tried a Cirno run in PoFV. Killed 3 fucking times by Aya causing me to arrive at Shikieiki on my last life.

Continued just to try some more and then have to continue again just to get her the first try of that credit.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on January 07, 2010, 03:02:29 PM
Lovely. My MoF score.dat has been erased, rather than just corrupted. -_-
D:
Maybe you should start backing up all your score.dat files since they seem to keep disappearing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 07, 2010, 03:06:45 PM
D:
Maybe you should start backing up all your score.dat files since they seem to keep disappearing.

Well, my USB drives, holding all my Touhou games (done April 2008 after a virus seriously threatened my computer) back up all my games, but they tend to be outdated. Thankfully I don't care about having a full spell card capture in-game, but in the case of SA I have to reunlock three shot types for extra. >_< I still have two to go...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 07, 2010, 03:13:03 PM
Now I got killed 3 times by Komachi with a different character instead and was barely off from the 50,000,000 extend so I didn't even make it to stage 9.

Edit: 3 times to Aya again. And since I suck even more at scoring with Reimu, I wasn't near the 50,000,000.

Edit: 3 times to Komachi, 3 times to Aya, 3 times to Aya. Why do I even bother with this?

Edit: Failed Hourai Elixir Lunatic with 1 second on the timer. The card is soeasy until the last 4-5 seconds as well, then it does that.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 08, 2010, 05:30:23 AM
Edit: Failed Hourai Elixir Lunatic with 1 second on the timer.

I played Hourai Elixir lunatic two times in all my Touhou history. Guess how many times I failed it with less than 1 second left.

Hourai Elixir lunatic and Yukari's last word can stay there uncleared for all I care.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 08, 2010, 06:08:47 AM
(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n75/mimeslayer/denied001.jpg)

So close....



Ok, so it was Easy w/ 5 lives for practice, I was still not expecting to get that close only to fail. =(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on January 08, 2010, 04:59:45 PM
I can't perfect UFO Stage 5 Normal.

I can't perfect UFO Stage 5 Normal.

I can't perfect FUCKING UFO STAGE 5 NORMAL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 08, 2010, 05:14:32 PM
Neither can I. Demon of Purification sucks. Same for Greatest Treasure and Radiant Treasure. Everything else is trivial, and even Radiant Treasure usually goes down easily enough for me.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 08, 2010, 05:32:53 PM
This is Touhou fail day, I keep screwing up the easy stuff. Makes me wonder how the hell I managed to get furthest than ever in the Extra.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 08, 2010, 08:35:23 PM
MoF Hard today :

Died on Autumn Sign "The Autumn Sky and a Maiden's Heart" 3 times in a row, rage quit every time yup.
Died on the last bullet on stage 2...
EGJFGSDFJGDFJDJFGYEGFJGSDJHFSD...
AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH >_<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 08, 2010, 08:46:35 PM
From when I was trying to 1cc it with ReimuA instead of ReimuB

Autumn Sign "Autumn Sky and a Maiden's Heart" 23/99
Bumper Crop" Promise of the Wheat God" 32/67

I reset so much on stage 1. It's 7/25 and 12/15 for ReimuB.


Lunatic version is so much worse. Don't forget the spellcard that Radiant Treasure Gun is based off of. Not sure which of the 2 I'd consider more BS, since I've never gone against RTG.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 08, 2010, 08:55:47 PM
Decided to play SoEW extra.
Well, rage.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Tanongi on January 08, 2010, 10:27:44 PM
Remilia's last spell card on normal with 4 lives, just about to unlock Extra Stage on EoSD. Die 4 times. Remilia has only a tick of life left. RAEGQUIT.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 08, 2010, 10:29:58 PM
IN extra, 3 attempts, STARTED 3 DOWNWARD SPIRALS AT IHAKASA'S MOON CURSE FUCKFUCFKCUFK. I didn't know I could screw up on "flaw of forgiving shrine", nor did I know I could lose more than one life on Flying Phoenix. I sent 3 runs into the gutter due to lower than ground level self-confidence. How about I now go to sleep? :/
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 08, 2010, 10:36:31 PM
I tried to 1cc SA on Hard. I was at the end of Stage 5 after a couple of accidental deaths during Orin, and had been maintaining an extra live count of around 4 or 5 since the beginning of Stage 4.

Then the game crashes in the transition to Stage 6.

OF ALL THE THINGS TO STOP A BEAUTIFUL RUN! I HAD THAT 1CC! FFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 08, 2010, 11:18:37 PM
Let's open the forbidden lunatic mode (IN)
78%
Continues 3
Death 20
Bombs 50

Let's try later
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 08, 2010, 11:27:13 PM
IN is probably the easiest Lunatic. I just don't have the will to try again after my embarrassing failure. I really need to though.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 09, 2010, 06:03:17 AM
I had the best run I've ever had on SA Stage 6 Hard. Passed Nuclear Excursion and Giga Flare with flying colors, and finally managed to capture Hell's Tokamak again. Then I die near the end of Subterranean Sun because I didn't move left enough.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Ghaleon on January 09, 2010, 07:57:57 AM
I played some EoSD today just for kicks. Just hard difficulty cuz I had plenty to drink atm. Everything was going fine all things considered. But when Remi casted "thousand needle mountain" I thought "oh yeah, this card". I was trying to do it without bombing, and well. bam, I got killed by some bullet I didn't notice.

Is the card just plain like that? I mean no matter how much better I get at shooters, this one CONTINUES to dazzle me. I mean it's not as hard as scarlet gensokyo (which I capped on that same run btw, but it WAS only hard) or scarlet meister, but it's so simple. No gimicks, nothing. It's just this very orderly looking pattern of bullets, and for some reason I just can't read it at ALL. Is it just me?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 09, 2010, 01:27:56 PM
It's easier on Lunatic than it is on Hard. Hard's version is just WTF while Lunatic's is decently readable.

How did I just die twice to Gold Detector on Hard? That card isn't even hard unlike her autobomb last one.

Edit: over 2 runs, not on one.

And this is harder than some of the Lunatics. I'm only able to get to Ichirin's final card on one credit. I can't even beat Stage 5.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 09, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
Another Extra run, game overed at Hollow Giant Woo. WHAT THE HELL WAS ZUN THINKING WHEN HE TURNED IT INTO RANDOM BULLET HELL.

@Enigma: We're on the same boat. Nazrin's diamond card on Hard is just impossible to me, Gold Detector is static and has quiet spots. It has a lot in common with catadioptric, forcing you to read pretty much all the screen. That's why screwing up there is so easy.

EDIT: Hollow Giant Woo is more like hollow giant WOE. I hate it so much.
EDIT2, to avoid double post: What the fuck is up with UFO. I can get through IN's EXTRA stage more or less without dying, and now on my FIFTH continue on STAGE 4 NORMAL OF UFO I'M STILL STUCK THERE.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Cabble on January 09, 2010, 09:15:55 PM
I just 1cced lotus land story on normal without playing it for 5 months, never playing past stage 3.

Then realize that I still can't get past stage 4 on SoEW on EASY.

FUCK
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 09, 2010, 10:05:24 PM
PoFV lunatic match mode. Sakuya vs. Merlin.

Four consecutive 1-2 losses.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 10, 2010, 02:54:21 AM
I keep fucking getting hit in stages 1 and 2 of IN.  I've only made it to Mystia once today just to get hit on her first fucking spellcard.

Edit: Oh, and I almost lost my perfect record on Shackles a Criminal Can't Remove Lunatic when I died while the nonspell was clearing and almost didn't get things right in time, but it's still perfect. Unlike my Hard one which I ruined today.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 10, 2010, 06:00:18 PM
Yay, I perfected Utsuho! \o/

Boo, I died on the stage. orz
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 10, 2010, 06:06:02 PM
Blazing Wheel or the streaming before that?


And damn it, I still can't get past stage 2. What the fuck? I haven't gotten past stage 2 once after failing on Hourai Jewel because I keep getting hit. My closest was Mystia's last nonspell.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 10, 2010, 06:15:07 PM
The part after Blazing Wheel. The birds that drop round bullets. ;>_>

These things sometimes wall you on lunatic.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 10, 2010, 09:39:25 PM
Tried MoF No Vertical No Bombs Normal

Died to Broken Amulet
Died to Optical Camouflage
Died to Monster Cucumber
Clipdeathed twice in stage 4

I didn't even get the second score extend either since without bombing your scoring sucks even more No Vert. Surprised I didn't die on one of the things I would have expected to under those conditions.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 11, 2010, 02:16:10 AM
Four times already I lost 1-2 to lunatic Shiki with Reimu. Getting her to her last half orb isn't that hard anymore; getting her to her last half orb and forcing her to deathbomb isn't exactly rare either.

But I really, really wish Lily would stop giving her all the yellow 'G's.



goddamnit shikieiki is a tough cookie isn't she



GODDAMNIT SHIKIEIKI



(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6104/97282486.png)
I've had my soul crushed enough times for today.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: warpshadow on January 11, 2010, 05:30:19 AM
I lost my last life just as Byakuren exploded after finishing Flying Fantasica.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Hideki on January 12, 2010, 01:33:54 AM
Why do I keep dying on stage 1/2 of PCB normal? Geez, I've gotten past stage 4 without dying so many times before, why can't I do it now?!
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 12, 2010, 01:38:38 AM
Wait so I can 1cc IN lunatic but not even clear UFO lunatic

/r score.dat
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 12, 2010, 01:54:45 AM
^This, except change the having 1cc'd IN Lunatic to could but keep screwing up early stages. And UFO Lunatic to UFO Hard.

I've continue spammed my way through EoSD Lunatic, PCB Hard, most of MoF Lunatic though I have stage 6 unlocked due to the replay thing, and SA Lunatic. But I just haven't gotten past stage 4 of UFO Hard(I could, but then Stage 5 would prevent me from clearing, and if not that, Byakuren. Just like SA Normal, I didn't have Stage 6 Normal on UFO Unlocked until after I 1cc'd. SA Hard and Lunatic, I managed it before having the skill to 1cc Hard(or after the Hard 1cc for Lunatic). I probably couldn't continue my way through PCB Lunatic though.


Edit: Damn it. I was just under a second away from capturing Momizi then I died. Then like usual I failed Storm Day, Peerless Wind God, and her final card.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 12, 2010, 03:06:30 AM
Wait so I can 1cc IN lunatic but not even clear UFO lunatic

Wait so I can 1cc 7 lunatics but not even clear UFO hard

I think I've won this one, where's my prize
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 12, 2010, 03:18:27 AM
Wait so I can 1cc 7 lunatics but not even clear UFO hard

I think I've won this one, where's my prize
PoFV counts as one silly
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Naut on January 12, 2010, 03:24:48 AM
lololololololool my performance in UFO does not vary between Hard and Lunatic mode, nor does it vary between shot-types. I will invariably fail on the same spots no matter what, and have recently noticed that I almost always leave stages 1-4 with the same amount of lives as I have the run before, regardless of what I do in them.

I may actually have to use stage practice... But I'll hold off for now. Not quite raging that hard.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 12, 2010, 03:43:29 AM
PoFV counts as one silly
Of course it counts as one or else it'd be 18 silly


GODDAMNIT LOUSY PROGRAMMING ZUN, don't you love when you're reduced to your last half orb while releasing a charge and therefore YOU DON'T GET THE LAST HALF ORB FULL GAUGE BECAUSE OF ASDSAFHADSJRHAFAFGDFHG ZUN
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 12, 2010, 03:47:14 AM
I have had what would have been Lunatic 1ccs get fucked over by that. It pisses me off every time it happens because it's pretty much a death sentence.

That or the whole dying 3 times on Stage 7 or Stage 8(or twice on both).

Or both.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 12, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
I may actually have to use stage practice... But I'll hold off for now. Not quite raging that hard.
...why wouldn't you use Stage Practice?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 12, 2010, 03:01:36 PM
I can't clear UFO stage 4 on normal except rare occasions. What did I win?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 12, 2010, 04:50:00 PM
Arrive at Shikieiki with 3 lives. Of course I die. Died after hitting her twice. Then I mess up and get hit 4 times in under a minute without even hitting her once on my last life.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SONIC BHOCOLATE STRIKER on January 12, 2010, 05:16:15 PM
I pretty much always lose all of my lives by stage 3 making stupid mistakes <_<
The farthest I got in any touhou game was PCB stage 6. And I got owned by Yuyu.

BTW I only play normal... easy is too easy and hard is too hard :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 12, 2010, 05:21:50 PM
PCB Easy is harder than some of the Normals.

Almost win stage 6 first try but die. Almost win stage 7 the first try then die. Almost win 2 more times on stage 7 then die 2 times. Game over on Komachi.


Once I manage to 1cc this damn thing on Lunatic without them, I'm going to cheap through it with Aya and Medicine(and still probably get BS'd a few times)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 12, 2010, 07:10:56 PM
My flanchan 6/3 replay...

It... it got desynced...

Oh God ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 12, 2010, 07:13:02 PM
;_;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 12, 2010, 07:23:39 PM
;_;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on January 12, 2010, 07:24:21 PM
;-;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 12, 2010, 07:33:20 PM
;_;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Generalguy on January 12, 2010, 10:19:48 PM
How Elis has like 3 completely undodgeable attacks in HRtP.

- The lasers + giant wall of bullets combo;
- That thing where she slowly moves to a corner, shooting a shower of bullets down. If you get walled, you're fucked;
- When she starts aiming at you with very fast bullet waves.

I think I should stand under her more often.

Also, the freaking lag. Unlike UFO, where I know when it'll activate, in HRtP it's completely random. Sure, it makes it slightly easier to dodge bullets, but it also completely screws up my timing, and sometimes the game doesn't even register my input. And the music gets all distorted.

What really pisses me off though, is that I can't even get passed stage 16 anymore.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 12, 2010, 11:56:24 PM
So there's a 1.1 English patch for PoFV which fixes Lunasa

So I pick Lunasa and lose 6 rounds in a row to Reimu after getting her down to half an orb and no gauge



edit: goddamnit I'm really awful at PCB

edit#2: tried Flanchan.zip again, needed two continues - got destroyed by the stage (gah), didn't remember a single noncard and proceeded to clip/deathbomb a lot of them (duh), and was obliterated by In the Eye of Destruction (well at least that one was expected). And never figured out how to use the C4, it says "press 'C' for things to go BOOM" but I got nothing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 13, 2010, 04:28:34 AM
Made a little progress on IN again. I've now made it back to the spellcard after Mystia's final nonspell before getting hit and ruining the attempt. Then every other attempt today ended with me getting hit by Wriggle's midboss card or getting hit by Mystia's "midboss" card.

Hopefully I don't fuck up stage 3 or the later stages once I get by stage 2 without getting hit again.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 13, 2010, 04:32:55 AM
Another Flanchan run, 2cc.

"In The Eye of Destruction": 3D8B
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Milkyway64 on January 13, 2010, 05:11:40 AM
Flanchan is a fad now. Amazing what a little hope of being possible does.

Still 3CC. I die with bombs in stock way, way too much.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 13, 2010, 01:41:45 PM
2cc ending 3/3. How does Gungnir work? That one killed me 2 times.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 13, 2010, 04:36:32 PM
UFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SONIC BHOCOLATE STRIKER on January 13, 2010, 05:27:41 PM
lol
I played UFO today... trying to show someone what Touhou was.
Game Over'd on stage 2. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Milkyway64 on January 13, 2010, 08:15:57 PM
2cc ending 3/3. How does Gungnir work? That one killed me 2 times.

It's aimed. The first two waves aim right at you, so move a few collumns away to avoid the arrowhead splash. The third wave shoots two at an angle to either side of you then one right at you. I am unsure how to consistently dodge this.

Spell repeats.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on January 14, 2010, 02:13:31 AM
lol
I played UFO today... trying to show someone what Touhou was.
Game Over'd on stage 2. :V

That happens a lot

what difficulty was it?

Kogasa: Taste the rainbow!!

sonicbhoc: tastes so painful!!

something like that eh?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 14, 2010, 02:23:08 AM
It's aimed. The first two waves aim right at you, so move a few collumns away to avoid the arrowhead splash. The third wave shoots two at an angle to either side of you then one right at you. I am unsure how to consistently dodge this.

Spell repeats.
That's like answering to "how do you dodge Hibachi's final in Daifukkatsu" with "move left and right"
 :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on January 14, 2010, 02:38:21 AM
lol
I played UFO today... trying to show someone what Touhou was.
Game Over'd on stage 2. :V
Welcome back sonic!

Also, game over'd in stage 6 practice mode to Utsuho's second nonspell. (probably more fitting for the METM thread but I wanted to welcome sonic back :()
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sieron on January 14, 2010, 03:13:20 AM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/rm4hh0.jpg)

I cant get past Utsuho on easy without a trainer.   :-\

Managed Hijiri after some godawful amount of continues.

What happened to those...do-able on normal, even for someone as incompetent as I, touhou's?  ???
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 14, 2010, 03:43:26 AM
I need to remember something: Whenever I need to have more fun in Touhou, get distracted with another game for a week or so, and my skills will completely atrophy. Dying in MoF stage 5 seven times is exhilirating. :3
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 14, 2010, 03:55:35 AM
EoSD EZ.

"Oh hey, this shouldn't be that bad"...

2 seconds later:
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl12.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=361&u=12803292)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

...

After Remi's opener:
"QED? Should be fine."
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl13.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=362&u=12803292)
A few seconds later...
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl14.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=363&u=12803292)
"Well, so much for avoiding the bottom of the screen to dodge."

/me restarts
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 14, 2010, 03:58:58 AM
wait is this that patch with completely batshit needle mountain?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 14, 2010, 04:04:03 AM
EoSD EZ.

"Oh hey, this shouldn't be that bad"...

2 seconds later:
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl12.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=361&u=12803292)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

...

After Remi's opener:
"QED? Should be fine."
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl13.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=362&u=12803292)
A few seconds later...
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl14.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=363&u=12803292)
"Well, so much for avoiding the bottom of the screen to dodge."

/me restarts

Have you never seen videos of ultra mode before or something? If so, I can't wait until you see Scarlet Meister. :3
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: COPIRIGHTO on January 14, 2010, 04:08:13 AM
I was fighting Murasa barely alive and right when I think I won, Ghost "Sinker Ghost"
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 14, 2010, 04:09:23 AM
Don't forget the nonspell that is Scarlet Meister as well.

From the videos it seems a little different from the Ultra one in a few shot patterns.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 14, 2010, 04:28:33 AM
From the videos it seems a little different from the Ultra one in a few shot patterns.
That's because I'm playing:

1. An updated version (unless you're already looking at the most recent)
2. An easier version

That being said, Stage 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_muliXVJbXg).

Stages 4 and 5 are feasible. And very fun.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 14, 2010, 04:35:31 AM
I'll have to actually try that one out. I have the original Ultra one. So I was only able to clear the stages(not counting 6 which was impossible) through bombspamming anything dangerous.

That version there actually looks playable.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 14, 2010, 03:55:48 PM
I was fighting Murasa barely alive and right when I think I won, Ghost "Sinker Ghost"
Happened to me the first time I played, then YESTERDAY. FFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 14, 2010, 04:38:19 PM
I captured ALL of Kanako's spell cards, then proceeded to ram into a PURPLE wall of VoWG.

No Focusing isn't very useful anymore :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 14, 2010, 08:00:01 PM
Messed up what should have been a Peerless Wind God capture at 1 second left.

Also, I can't get past half of VoWG's lifebar before dying.

Damn it Minoriko quit killing me and forcing me to bomb stuff. You're a fucking stage 1 boss.

Also died twice on Nitori on one of my attempts and clipped one of Aya's nonspells and still made it to stage 5 just to die quickly. Thankfully stage 5 isn't too bad, but Aya drains most of my power.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 14, 2010, 09:22:03 PM
Highly Responsive to Prayers. Easy mode.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?!!!

Took so many tries to kill 1st boss.

2 continues for Mima.

Gave up on Kikuri (or whatever her name is) after 5. Only got out of Phase 1 once. ONCE!

Not counting all the continues on stage due to my own weapon killing me.




Seriously, what am I missing that makes this game beatable?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SONIC BHOCOLATE STRIKER on January 14, 2010, 09:24:37 PM
That happens a lot

what difficulty was it?

Kogasa: Taste the rainbow!!

sonicbhoc: tastes so painful!!

something like that eh?

I only ever play normal. Too much pride for easy mode, too much fail for anything else <_<

And yeah, that's pretty much how it went down. If I get tired of programming my game, I'll probably be back in this thread talking about how I ruined my latest run.

I do remember this one time... where I finally got good at SA. I was stoked when I hit stage 5... until stage 5 hit me. I survived for a total of 25 seconds. With over 5 lives. Continues didn't help at all. That was the farthest I've ever gotten in SA.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 15, 2010, 03:23:42 AM
I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really hate UFO.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on January 15, 2010, 04:30:56 AM
I only ever play normal. Too much pride for easy mode, too much fail for anything else <_<

And yeah, that's pretty much how it went down. If I get tired of programming my game, I'll probably be back in this thread talking about how I ruined my latest run.

I do remember this one time... where I finally got good at SA. I was stoked when I hit stage 5... until stage 5 hit me. I survived for a total of 25 seconds. With over 5 lives. Continues didn't help at all. That was the farthest I've ever gotten in SA.
Ah I usually play easy and normal.
beat MoF stage 1 on hard once
but only beat that game on easy.

I tehn to think of touhou difficulty as other smup difficulty +2

so easy is equivalent to other games hard mode
normal is equivalent to other games lunatic
and hard more is just what the forks just hit me argh spalt boom

wtfjhmasb for short.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 15, 2010, 04:35:56 AM
I was just denied a MS lunatic 1cc when I game overed as Devil's Recitation ended, as in the last place where it was feasible that I could ever die. This would have been my first 1cc with Reimu too. :<

But...

BUT...

I GOT THE 400 POINT EXTEND! :O :O :O

Of course, the bomb collecting I did to do this probably is what caused me to run out of resources, but yeaaaaaaah. >_>

Highly Responsive to Prayers. Easy mode.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?!!!

Took so many tries to kill 1st boss.

2 continues for Mima.

Gave up on Kikuri (or whatever her name is) after 5. Only got out of Phase 1 once. ONCE!

Not counting all the continues on stage due to my own weapon killing me.




Seriously, what am I missing that makes this game beatable?

It takes a heart as pure as all the Sanas in the world

Skill baby :dragonforce:

Mostly learning how to manipulate Reimu's balls correctly and scoring well enough to rack up lives. Once you learn it, it's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0u4fhBaNjE) not (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcF4quCY04o&feature=channel) that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7AJi-qnzRk&feature=channel) hard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1hx40IUnqs). :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 15, 2010, 04:56:58 AM
I GOT THE 400 POINT EXTEND! :O :O :O
lies, the 400 point extend doesn't exist!


it's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0u4fhBaNjE) not (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcF4quCY04o&feature=channel) that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7AJi-qnzRk&feature=channel) hard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1hx40IUnqs). :V
boo minimum rank




so I decided to beat every character in PoFV lunatic match mode with Reimu.

so I'm considering un-deciding it.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 15, 2010, 05:00:17 AM
boo minimum rank

If you know a way to freeze rank so that I can fight it at the hardest level every time, let me know. :[
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 15, 2010, 05:01:00 AM
If you know a way to freeze rank so that I can fight it at the hardest level every time, let me know. :[
Same here, Sir Donut. Same here.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 15, 2010, 07:20:07 AM
...
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl17.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=366&u=12803292)
Well, even if I survived this part, there was a 0% chance of survival due to the upcoming waves. Need to learn how to do one certain Spell Card without bombing more than twice. On the plus side, I did manage "Rainbow UFOs" with a single bomb.

It'd be so much more easier on me if "Typhoon" wasn't such a bitch with the handicap.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Ghaleon on January 15, 2010, 08:25:22 AM
I'm touhou's worst bomber I swear. I don't know how I developed this bad habit of never bombing until I hear the death chime. I played IN like least of all excluding UFO, and half of what little I have played of it wasn't even using border team. I'm confident I could 1cc every Touhou in the series if I wasn't such a dumbass with bombs. I die with more than 3 bombs in stock more often than not ffs. ghaghag.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 15, 2010, 05:17:34 PM
Game overed on Lunatic Recollection "Wind God Hidden Among Tree Leaves"

This run should have at least made it to stage 5 if I didn't suck at stage 1 and 3.

several times on Yugi and her stage. Stage 4 was horrible too. Satori nonspells and Terrifying Hypnotism are still horrible.

Edit: Game over on boss Orin. What am I doing wrong, and don't even dare say using ReimuC. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6898

How am I supposed to not fail at Yamame, stages 3, and 4.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lybydose on January 16, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
don't even dare say using ReimuC.

Why are you using ReimuC?  :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 16, 2010, 02:21:51 AM
3 attempts consecutive attempts with ReimuA that didn't even make it past stage 1. Yamame's opener is fucking bullshit and killed me on each of them. Her last card is a pain too as I have yet to capture it. Rest of the fight is fine.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 16, 2010, 02:24:09 AM
3 attempts consecutive attempts with ReimuA that didn't even make it past stage 1. Yamame's opener is fucking bullshit and killed me on each of them. Her last card is a pain too as I have yet to capture it. Rest of the fight is fine.

How does this relate to you thinking Reimu C is a good idea? :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 16, 2010, 02:26:39 AM
It was more rage, not an answer to the question.

I can get to stage 5 with both of them.

But as for why I used ReimuC that particular time, better bomb, easier Satori fight. I don't use gapping much outside of stage 6 anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 16, 2010, 02:30:58 AM
The bomb is the ONLY good thing about Reimu C. Reimu A Satori may be harder (ARRRRRRRRRRGH), but her shot type is the only good one in the game, and Reimu C's is both harder to control and deals less damage.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 16, 2010, 02:33:43 AM
Quote from: me
Screw you, Cirno Shotgun!

Seriously, Cirno Shotgun is harder than 90% of what Sakuya throws at you. Or maybe it feels like that because you can basically sleepwalk through stages 1 and 2 and then BAM

edit: playing EoSD like once every two weeks at most probably also plays a part
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 16, 2010, 03:01:32 AM
Yes! The last non-spell.

Extend!

*dies*

Now this should just be streami-
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl12.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=367&u=12803292)
*delayed deathbomb*

...
Alright, maybe the last one; now if I can just-
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl18.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=368&u=12803292)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

Also, I had to change Shot Types.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 16, 2010, 04:21:08 AM
ok screw it all, that feeling of having hit a ceiling is just awful.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 16, 2010, 05:11:35 AM
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl19.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=369&u=12803292)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 16, 2010, 10:00:09 AM
Seriously, Cirno Shotgun is harder than 90% of what Sakuya throws at you. Or maybe it feels like that because you can basically sleepwalk through stages 1 and 2 and then BAM

edit: playing EoSD like once every two weeks at most probably also plays a part

Cirno's  opener is actually really easy.
Shotgun her at first. When she is about to fire the first wave, go to her left to misdirect it. Now go down the screen and tap twice to dodge the next two waves.


Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 16, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
Yamame's opener. How the fuck are you supposed to do this thing? I either bomb or die to it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 16, 2010, 11:38:16 AM
1. Bah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRnlGy58Enw).

2. Got a "point-blank" (read: spawned in really close proximity, and aimed right at my position) laser during "Heian Dark Clouds" in a random NV UFO Extra that was going decently well (only 1 mistake thus far in); causing me to deathbomb by panic reflex.
3. Lost focus, made 2 mistakes on "Mysterious Snake Show".
4. In the same run, I also just fail to capture "Danmaku Chimera".
5. I then proceed to suicide 3 times to "Undefined Darkness" (reason being, not enough resources to survive... for me anyways).

Guess I'll finish it off tomorrow morning then.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Infy♫ on January 16, 2010, 01:01:23 PM
SUBTERRANEAN SUN RUINED MY SA 1CC RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
seriously, i died when she had only 1/8 of her lifebar left!
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 16, 2010, 01:34:07 PM
Ultra Mode, first time ... 120 misses, 160 bombs.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
This might not be a good practice tool after all ...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Generalguy on January 16, 2010, 03:34:12 PM
HRtP's weird learning curve :

HRtP Easy is BY FAR the hardest easy of the series. No freaking way you can 1cc that on your first try. Once you memorize the bosses and manage to control the orb so it doesn't kill you every 5 seconds it's not too bad.

HRtP Normal is HRtP Easy, except you have to dodge 2 to 10 bullets per 5 seconds in some stage. And the bosses are harder, somewhat.

HRtP Hard is HRtP Normal, with slightly harder bosses, but the strategies from Normal mostly work anyway.

So basically, if you can 1cc Easy, you can 1cc Hard.

Now, Lunatic. It's HRtP Hard, with a crapload of bullets appearring when you turn cards. All aimed at you. To chain the cards, you have to follow the orb around to kick it back up. So you're moving around. And the bullets are aimed. So they miss. Which means you can (almost) do the EXACT SAME THING you did on Normal in most stages.

This was supposed to be some kind of rant about how some players who can 1cc the Touhou shooters on Lunatic manage to find this game hard (streaming, 20 extra lives, nearly static stages).

Now if I could just remember how I installed HyperCam, so I can put it on a computer that doesn't suck, and prove I can still play without random slowdown.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 16, 2010, 03:43:38 PM
Midboss Wriggle, Minoriko, Yamame(and Kisume). Why do most of my Lunatic attempts end on stage 1? Then if I get past that, I just screw it up on stage 2 most of the time.

I still can't capture Yamame's first nonspell or her last spell. I usually have to bomb both of Minoriko's nonspells, but it's not as certain as Yamame.  Minoriko's final card as crap as well.

I've been having much more luck with SA than I have been with MoF and IN despite it being the hardest game of the 3. But then I fuck up Yugi's stage lasers, Yugi's midboss lasers, Yugi's boss lasers, Ooe and her last nonspell, stage 4 streaming, stage 4 lasers, Satori nonspells, Terrifying Hypnotism, the Recollections regardless of shot type. If I could actually get good at stage 3 and 4 I could possibly 1cc it. Oh, and not fucking up Yamame every time by having to bomb.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lybydose on January 16, 2010, 05:38:18 PM
On my SA Lunatic 1cc I bombed Yamame's opener also also ended up bombing the final spell card for some reason.  I still reached boss Parsee with 4 power without dying.  Stage 2 and midboss Parsee are both fairly easy, but I was using ReimuA.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 16, 2010, 06:26:39 PM
Ultra Mode, first time ... 120 misses, 160 bombs.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
This might not be a good practice tool after all ...

Actually, it's watching a video of ultra stage 5 that taught me that most of the bullets in the second half are aimed away from me. And does that mean it gives you unlimited continues or something?

Quote
HRtP rawr

HRtP relies on a different skill set than the shooters, so it's to be expected even lunatic players may find the game impossible. If I weren't such a DX-ball addict back in the day I may have felt the same way.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 16, 2010, 06:35:53 PM
HRtP relies on a different skill set than the shooters, so it's to be expected even lunatic players may find the game impossible. If I weren't such a DX-ball addict back in the day I may have felt the same way.
61cc on Normal
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 17, 2010, 02:01:17 AM
Actually, it's watching a video of ultra stage 5 that taught me that most of the bullets in the second half are aimed away from me. And does that mean it gives you unlimited continues or something?

Did a test run. Got to Killing Doll before losing all continues (71 misses). In Ultra, 1 life fragment = 3 lives, 1 bomb fragment = 6 bombs, and only three continues :V

Yeah ... This might sound pathetic, but I used the trainer yesterday >_>
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 17, 2010, 05:15:06 AM
Yamame's opener. How the fuck are you supposed to do this thing? I either bomb or die to it.
How are you trying to do it? It does become rage-worthy when she moves too far down, but otherwise it shouldn't be that bad.

Unless she's staying way down for every wave when you fight her...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Widermelonz on January 17, 2010, 11:44:45 AM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/j5e23l.jpg)

I did this at 3 in the morning.

Overall run was pretty horrible, but this sealed the deal.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 17, 2010, 11:48:45 AM
Extra run: it's a fail day, so I did everything I screw up well, and to compensate fucked up everlasting phoenix's tail. Then I got destroyed by Fujiyama volcano and Hollow Giant Woe.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 17, 2010, 04:21:30 PM
Just captured Kisume's bucket lasers just to get killed by one of the lasers because they didn't get cleared.

And I keep dying to Yamame's final card. I really would like to capture it as the power would help on stage 2.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 17, 2010, 04:29:27 PM
Aghagh, I finally captured DBDB again, and I choke on BoWaP. In my nervousness I was trying too hard to make precise movements...

Just captured Kisume's bucket lasers just to get killed by one of the lasers because they didn't get cleared.
That's happened to me a couple times too. I don't know why it happens, but it's stupid. Doesn't help that they have hitboxes seemingly outside the laser itself...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 17, 2010, 07:12:44 PM
I just died to Shackles a Criminal Can't Remove.

At least my Reimu A record is still perfect, but those Aya Shots fucked up her perfect record. Maybe I should have had them going sideways instead of vertically.

And I can't figure out any of the lasers in Stage 3. I need to get good at this stage.


Wait, shooting to the sides almost ended as a failure via timeout, what? I had to go back to vertical just to capture it in time, which of course caused some of the bubbles to appear.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 17, 2010, 11:06:49 PM
I feel so n00bish right now. Why the fuck can't I 1cc SA Hard?

First time, the game crashes again after clearing Stage 5 with 4 extra lives. Again. Then after a horrible run of Stages 3 to 5, I game over at Subterranean Sun when Utsuho had literally a sliver of health left. And I was just about to safety-bomb, dammit! Next time I get to Stage 5, I die 3 times in the first yin-yang orb section because I had 3.95 Power and couldn't kill anything in time.

Why does this game hate me all of a sudden? What did I do to deserve this shit?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 18, 2010, 03:20:22 AM
Just tried to unlock PCB Extra with another shottype.

ReimuA Normal. I game overed on Swallowtail Butterfly when the game didn't register a bomb.


I can 1cc many of the Hard modes, have gotten close on 3 Lunatics and have a legitimate chance at 4. But I can't consistently clear this on Normal. I blame stage 4 and ReimuA's crappiness, but mostly stage 4.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 18, 2010, 07:35:08 PM
I thought I had Yamame's final figured out since I was capturing it consistently in a row, now I'm failing it consistently in a row.

I either need to capture that or the opener. Opener I can do but it usually screws me over. I'm like 3/ I don't know on it.

Edit: Tried timing out some Satori cards.

Double Black Death Butterfly: 1 death timeout(was trying to capture it at first though since I haven't yet)

Insect Nest: 1 death timeout

BoWaP: Not even going to try as I can't capture it without the safespot.

Wind God Hidden Among Tree Leaves: 1 death timeout

Tengu Macro Burst: 1 death timeout with a under a few seconds left, what the hell

Great Whirlwind: 1 death timeout, yet again with a few seconds left.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lybydose on January 18, 2010, 10:32:33 PM
I'm glad I died to Rorschach in Danmaku because otherwise my perfect run would have been ruined by GREEN BUBBLE BULLET FAERIES.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on January 19, 2010, 12:57:53 AM
Nue's 7th non-spell with the rapidly falling balls.
One spawns above me, falling at full speed. It's all I can do to dodge in a random direction to avoid it.
Straight into another bullet.

-_-

Watching the replay showed there was a 1-in-8 chance of that happening.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 19, 2010, 03:29:00 AM
What the F----------------

I just had a perfect run of EoSD Extra's stage portion, for the first time - and where do I die?  The books.  Twice.  I consistently perfect the books.  Two deaths.

Whatever, 2/3 for Fland--WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN I JUST DIED ON HER FIRST NONCARD

NO SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 19, 2010, 10:12:29 AM
Perfect Orin Lunatic run ruined by the last 3 attacks (3 misses). FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 19, 2010, 04:30:33 PM
Tried to unlock Stage 4 SA for the Marisa shottypes so I could try to capture those spells as well. I didn't beat it with any of them. So much clipdeath.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 19, 2010, 05:10:10 PM
am I the only one who finds almost all of SA lunatic completely retarded

funnily enough, Utsuho is the only boss from which I have all lunatic cards captured. Satori? Not a single one.
Hypnotism=retarded
DBDB=cheap
Insect Nest=luckshit
BoWaP=CLIPDEATH EVERYWHERE

Probably because I find Reimu in this game way too hard to control for some reason. Marisa is much easier to control, but all of her shottypes are pure shit.
ZUN, WHY PUT IN 6 SHOTTYPES WHEN ONLY ONE IS REMOTELY USEFUL

Makes me think that zun seriously didn't playtest it one bit. There is ONE straight shottype. Out of SIX.
And bomb=power is equally dumb.

That's why I like other shmups more than touhou lately(first time I played TH in weeks)
"Alright, you can select from three ships, no matter what speed and what spread you pick, you get a huge laser by default"

The shotgun shots in touhou are useless. I don't see a single instance where a spread shot was useful in touhou except for SanaeB....sometimes.

UFO did a step in the right direction with giving everyone a straight and a less straight shottype but MoF and SA have the worst selection of shots I've ever seen in shmups.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 19, 2010, 06:24:41 PM
I believe that the issue you see in MoF and SA was ZUN trying to differentiate playstyles, instead of having all types play down the same in the end.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 19, 2010, 06:26:48 PM
I have captured all of Yamame's and Parsee's on Lunatic.

For the other bosses:

Yugi: Still need Ooe (gotten close)

Satori: Terrifying Hypnotism(I got close once, just fucking once)

Yukari Satori: DBDB, BoWaP(without safespot since I've done it with it obviously)

Suika Satori: All of them

Aya Satori: Got all 3 of them captured in the same fucking practice run :)

Marisa A/B/C Satori: Don't have the stage unlocked, but I need all of them


Orin: Possessed Fairy, Ghost Wheels, Small Demons Revival

Utsuho: All of them except Ten Evil Stars and Subterranean Sun
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 19, 2010, 06:42:12 PM
AAAAAAAAAARGHHHGHHGAHAHGAHGAHAGHAGAHHAGHAAGHAGHGHAGHAAGHAGHHAGAGHAHGAGHAGHAGHAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHHGHGGHGH
FGFSGHSHGSHGSHGSHGHGSHGSGH
FUCK FUCK FUCK

FIRST MOF LUNATIC ATTEMPT IN AGES
BOMBED EVERYTHING
ENTERED ST6 WITH 1 LIFE

YES THESE FEW PIXELS WERE KANAKO'S REMAINING HP
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9836/th010.jpg)
brb facewall
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jana on January 19, 2010, 06:44:53 PM
I was practicing SA St6 on Easy with Reimu/Suika just now. While I was whiffing a bunch of cards, I almost captured Subterranean Sun... And got hit by the last bullet I had to dodge as Utsuho exploded and her gravity effect went to max. :<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 19, 2010, 08:11:08 PM
What the fuck?

I die four, yes four fucking times over stages 2 and 3 and still make it to fucking Boss Sanae. I actually have a shot at this if I don't completely fuck everything up.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6952
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 19, 2010, 08:14:53 PM
I captured only 2 spells, died 4 times with bombs and still made it to VoWG.
How many lives do you need for VoWG?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 19, 2010, 08:18:52 PM
2 or 3 on a good run. Without bombing. Probably 2 with bombing. Kanako is easily 1 death until VoWG, sometimes even none.

Edit: Checks replay

Stage 1 midboss spell
Minoriko's first
Trauma in the Glimmering Depths
Secretly Inherited Art of Danmaku(at 0 lives, 0 power)


Edit: Clipdeathed Kanako's second card twice. Oh and 2 deaths on stage 3 right as I was about to bomb. And I messed up stage 5 again since I couldn't remember how to do it right.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on January 20, 2010, 01:56:05 AM
My computer's running great by some miracle!  Quickly, to the PC98 games!

...Yumeko just wrecked my shit.  She used her opening 'random red ring burst' thingy three times.  Guess how many times it killed me?  ALL THREE.

COMEON, BRAIN, YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 20, 2010, 02:21:09 AM
I didn't even make it to stage 5 this time. I kept clipping everything. Fuck you Aya.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on January 20, 2010, 02:34:34 AM
First attempt at PoDD goes like this:

vs. Ellen: Perfect
vs. Rikako: Perfect
vs. Mima: Perfect
vs. Kana: Take a hit but win
vs. Kotohime: Perfect
vs. Reimu: Take a hit and win
vs. Chiyuri: Take two hits and still win
vs. Yumemi: GAME OVER.

GOD DAMNIT PHANTASMAGORIA AI.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 20, 2010, 02:53:23 AM
Oh my God so many clipdeaths in the first two stages of MoF Hard. I've perfected both stages ages ago, and know what to expect in terms of bombing the harder parts, but I keep dying in the most unexpected of places in the most unexpected of ways. Maybe today's not a good day for Touhou.

Opener I can do but it usually screws me over. I'm like 3/ I don't know on it.
Have you tried this (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6923) to counter it? I don't know yet if it's worth learning it to the point of consistency, but it seems better than nothing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 20, 2010, 03:01:58 AM
Seen it, didn't really help.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 20, 2010, 04:19:29 AM
Number of times I've reached Kogasa in 45 minutes of UFO Extra: 0

Also failed a perfect Stage 5 normal with a clipdeath on Complete Clarification.


"UFO" and "consistency" don't belong in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2010, 04:43:20 AM
Fuck

Tried to 1cc UNL Lunatic with Meiling again, this time I used her default 236 and it works wonders on Alice.

Got stepped all over on Reimu's stupid burst card.


Goddamn miko. Don't make me make another video where you get raped by muscular fairies and bloody lasers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJA4jy4shD0) 3:<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 20, 2010, 04:45:11 AM
Fuck

Tried to 1cc UNL Lunatic with Meiling again, this time I used her default 236 and it works wonders on Alice.

Got stepped all over on Reimu's stupid burst card.


Goddamn miko. Don't make me make another video where you get raped by muscular fairies and bloody lasers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJA4jy4shD0) 3:<

Are you talking about Blink, the one where she wraps around the screen and ganks you before you can react? That one may as well be the last two stages of Meiling's scenario, because if you can pass it without dying more than once you're all set.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2010, 04:51:57 AM
Are you talking about Blink, the one where she wraps around the screen and ganks you before you can react? That one may as well be the last two stages of Meiling's scenario, because if you can pass it without dying more than once you're all set.
I died twice to that bitch :<

I thought I had it figured out when I started jumping up through the burst and physically attacking her but no her borders then spawn immediately, trapping me in a tiny box in mid air and taking out like half my health :<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on January 20, 2010, 06:25:01 AM
I believe that the issue you see in MoF and SA was ZUN trying to differentiate playstyles, instead of having all types play down the same in the end.

I actually liked the selection on MoF.

SA's selection is interesting and MarisaC's bomb was most useful. MarisaA is good too but I can't stand marisaB

I like how each shottype plays differently. I adjust my own style accordingly.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 20, 2010, 02:47:38 PM
How did Sadistic Penguin even get the final item extend in his Pacifist Mokou? My best was to get to 656 items, and that was with 3 bombs and a death which would have negated any advantage the extend would give.

Not that I can time most of the stuff out consistently anyway. My best was to get to the nonspell before Phoenix Tail like that.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 20, 2010, 03:56:32 PM
WHY DO I KEEP DYING AS SPELL CARDS CLEAR
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 20, 2010, 04:07:39 PM
I somehow think that "Patchouli" means "a fucking trainwreck of a stage 4"
seriously, it was goddamn perfect except for stage 4 because that asthmatic slut keeps spamming bubble bullets with ridiculous hitboxes.

Stage 1-perfect
Stage 2-2 bombs, 1 planned
Stage 3-2 bombs. Still didn't die.
Stage 4-Lame death right before books(somehow I can't kill the bullet cancel fairies in time). 1 bomb on books, 1 on Koakuma, another on the spam from above, last one on the bullet cancel fairies before Patchouli.
bleh shitstreaming blocked by lasers, clipdeath with 2 bombs

MOTHERFUCKING PATCHOULI

NDL. Both of them. I can't memorize this shit for my life.
Bury in Lake captured. HOLY SHIT
NDL death no bombs.
Bombed Green Storm once.
Died 2 times on Water Elf even though I've captured it several times before. Both times with bombs....2 and 3. GODDAMNIT.
Bombed both Mercury and Megalith.

St5. Bomb before midboss Sakuya, no bombs left, died on Misdirection(and stupidly at that)
Bombed Jack because I got walled but made up for it by capturing The World.

Entered st6 with 2 lives and 2 bombs and reached Remi with 1 less bomb.
Captured her opener, captured YDL, captured her second nonspell, Needle Mountain, third nonspell, captured Vampire Illusion.
Bombed her 4th nonspell once, survived long enough on SM to take it out with a bomb.
Stupid death on Gensokyo with 2 bombs. Game over.

tl;dr fucking patchouli, fucking bullet canceling fairies. stick your bubble bullets up your purple ass.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on January 20, 2010, 04:09:07 PM
How many lives do you need for VoWG?

One. Just practice a lot.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 20, 2010, 04:16:18 PM
One. Just practice a lot.
That was aimed at Enigma...I can dodge it just fine :V
yeah, I couldn't pass a single amulet wall since I didn't expect to get this far because I was nervous as hell and still almost cleared it with only 3 power.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zetzumarshen on January 20, 2010, 05:43:46 PM
Quote
Yamame opener
Unless the run needs some bombs conserving (i.e. scoring,no bomb runs), try to sight thread Yamame's first wave. If she moves towards downward or even worse, down-right/down-left, then just bomb her. If you don't want to bomb, stream right a little then when the 2nd wave of red bullets are activating, push right until entering somewhat safe zone. Be careful of red bullet from below and blue bullets from above and yes, it is harder than it sounds. When sight threading is not an option (i.e. 2nd wave), don't hesitate to bomb if the bullets are suddenly pressing hard.
Here are some example when :
to bomb (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6964)
not to bomb (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6963)
ignore anything else.

Try not to stream her to the left, its harder going left than right if Yamame is pushing downward, because there will be a fast red bullet that are sweeping the bottom screen from above. There is a safe way if you want to go left (hitting walls/finishing Yamame), see the not to bomb replay. Move up-right, wait, then when the red bullets are activating, go bottom-left.

3.xx Reimu A will defeat her in 2 waves if she is constantly shooting Yamame. Note that her movement are random. The longer the fight takes, the chance of Yamame becoming harder are increased.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 20, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
UFO
Finished Ichirin 2/6 I don't know how (I finish her with 6/7 normally)
Reached Murasa 7/7, yay Stage 4...
Finished Murarsa 2/2
WHAT ?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Iryan on January 20, 2010, 07:10:27 PM
I still think that SA's stage difficulty is totally off.

Stage One: 2 deaths
Stage Two: 1 death
Stage Three: 1 death
Stage Four: 1 death = first continue, then 1 death
Stage Five: ~ 20 continues
Stage Six: 3 continues


Blah, reunlocked lunatic stage practice for SA, anyways, so I shouldn't complain.  :V
Now to do it with the other shottypes besides ReimuB...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 20, 2010, 11:11:14 PM
SA is dumb
failed a 1cc....on NORMAL
why is atomic fusion harder than the lunatic version
mega flare=giga flare=peta flare
and Hell and Heaven Meltdown is harder than Tokamak.

this game is worse than all of the non reimuA shottypes combined
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 20, 2010, 11:47:08 PM
What shottype were you using.

Just easily did a 3 death run with ReimuA on Normal. 2 deaths due to low power and one due to messing up lolsafeheight Fixed Star. All deaths were on stage 6, with 2 of those being on Utsuho.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 20, 2010, 11:54:08 PM
MarisaC.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on January 20, 2010, 11:59:51 PM
Wow, the best run I've ever had of IN extra seems so anticlimatic after a complete brainfart during Hourai Doll. Utterly horrible mistake to make after such a good run. If Fujiyama Volcano hadn't *just* clipped me earlier, I would have been utterly furious at being denied my first 13-card clear of the stage (considering my Imperishable Shooting history is 2/35, I doubt I would pull it off FTW).
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 21, 2010, 12:02:23 AM
That was the last one I did normal with. I ended with 0 lives left, and I don't remember the bombs. Hardest Satori fight as well.

Edit: Just did another Normal one with her. Ended with 1 spare life due to idiotic deaths in several spots, including 2 on Satori's last card, midboss Orin's first nonspell, Vengeful Cannibal Spirit is easier than the Normal version is, died to Orin's last nonspell with bombs in stock. Didn't even save the replay as the score was lower than the one I finished with no spare lives on.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 21, 2010, 01:09:02 AM
Argh, my camera isn't cooperating with me. I'm trying to record my PCB Extra clear for Youtube, but the Ran fight by itself is already pushing the limits of my camera (it can only record up to 9 minutes). I want to say the Ran fight will fit into that threshold, but just barely. However, my camera for some reason ran out of memory 30 seconds earlier than it should. I want to make a clean transition between videos (stage portion vs. Ran), but I was forced to shift the boundary between videos toward the end of Ran's first spell. I'd rather not do that, though my options to fix the problem are limited. Especially since my camera's battery has to recharge too...

why is atomic fusion harder than the lunatic version
I can't vouch for the Lunatic version, but Excursion is definitely harder than Fusion. Even just looking at it, I don't think Lunatic<Normal.
mega flare=giga flare=peta flare
I'm inclined to agree with this. Each one is just a faster version of the last, and they otherwise can be approached in the same way.
and Hell and Heaven Meltdown is harder than Tokamak.
I'm willing to bet the different trajectories threw you off. In my experience, the two cannot be approached the same way.
Responses in bold.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lopsidation on January 21, 2010, 02:04:49 AM
Hey, folks, did you know that on Yukari's final, the familiars stop whenever you die or bomb? Did you know that all the bullets on the screen then head off in whatever direction they would go and the attack continues from where it left off? Did you know that during that time, the timer stops counting down?

Well, I didn't, until I got there 3/2 and gameovered at 28 seconds left.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 21, 2010, 02:35:01 AM
Spent about an hour grinding MoF Stage 4, and what do I have to show for it?

My record on Saruta Cross is now 11/52, at least I captured that a few more times.

Still no captures on Storm Day, Peerless Wind God, or Terukuni Throughout the World, and I got close on those first 2 at least 3 times.

Also, you do know any combination of 5 deaths/bombs is enough to clear the card if you just stay in the middle, right? Or some dodging of course.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 21, 2010, 02:52:27 AM
I got there 3/2 and gameovered at 28 seconds left.
But that's a minimum of 11 "free" waves you had (if you were using Marisa - 14 if Reimu, 17 if Sakuya) for a 5-wave attack!
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: AweStriker Nova on January 21, 2010, 04:16:16 AM
All of my previous skill at Touhou seems to have completely evaporated, because now I suddenly can't beat SA stage 1 with any regularity (Normal)

AAAAagHAGHAGHAGHGgahgHagHGashGHAgaHAGhGahg
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 21, 2010, 05:21:58 AM
UNR gives you a solid way to move through with no room to flail around, it basically lays out a path for you. The blue bullets are just as dense as on Normal.

The Normal version shoots only one sun wave which gives you much more room, making you hit Utsuho less and possibly go completely off direction.

I've timed out the Lunatic version, but never capped the Normal one.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 21, 2010, 06:06:28 AM
UNR gives you a solid way to move through with no room to flail around, it basically lays out a path for you. The blue bullets are just as dense as on Normal.

The Normal version shoots only one sun wave which gives you much more room, making you hit Utsuho less and possibly go completely off direction.

I've timed out the Lunatic version, but never capped the Normal one.
"Flail around"? Well there's your problem. You have more time to get out of the way of each sun on Normal, and you should still be moving to the same spots for misdirecting the suns. And by the way, you can learn where those spots are just by playing Normal (or Easy) - no Hard or Lunatic experience needed. The general approach shouldn't change across difficulties.

If you spend about the same amount of time moving from one spot to the other for each wave of suns, there's no net change in how much you hit Utsuho. It's a loss if you leave early, but you earn it back by getting back under Utsuho early. And unless you're going for a score run or something, there's no need to get aggressive by staying under her as much as possible.

The second set of suns is meant to restrict you, in more ways than one. Besides the less space you have, you're forced to stay roughly in place until the second sun comes out (for misdirection purposes). Thus you have less time to move left or right, and it certainly can mean the difference between getting by and getting walled. If Nuclear Fusion is harder, you're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 21, 2010, 02:11:01 PM
Failed 80% reflowering at 6 seconds left
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 21, 2010, 02:20:52 PM
How is it that I capture everything Nue throws at me when I'm completely blind, but now that I know what's coming I fail terribly and game over on midspell before Green UFOs :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 21, 2010, 03:19:20 PM
MoF Lunatic 1cc attempt

Messed up Sanae, well there went three lives

Messed up Kanako, there went my other 3 lives

I didn't even make it to Virtue of Wind God even though that definitely would have been a 1cc if I didn't mess it up. But no, I had to mess up Sanae to pretty much likely ruin my chances. Then I clipped Kanako's second spell then died to her last nonspell twice.

Here's the replay in case anyone wishes to watch the complete fail.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6972
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Athon on January 21, 2010, 03:38:22 PM
Perfect IN Extra stage part.

Die three times and gameover BEFORE Fire Bird... ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on January 21, 2010, 04:23:13 PM
Orin's difficulty is severely overrated. Compared to MarisaC Satori, Orin is nothing.

Every single of those recollection spells are incredibly frustrating. I'm going to have to quit now. Five attempts with no results. I thought Spring Kyoto Dolls were frustrating but no! I only spent five attempts on capturing all MarisaA spells. Thank goodness Marisa is such an awful character so i never have to face these cards in an actual playthrough.

Seriously, Double Black Death Buttlerfly is a pushover compared to Extending Arm.

All above is just frustrated player letting off some steam. We need not raise argument over this.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 21, 2010, 04:32:53 PM
am I the only one who finds BoWaP retarded?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on January 21, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
am I the only one who finds BoWaP retarded?

Its not too terrible but i hear that there are some who have major trouble with it despite being otherwise damn fine players. You might be one.

Kind of like me and Hells Tokamak.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 21, 2010, 04:46:48 PM
It's that first wave which comes after the particle part. I can't get into that gap, period.

Oh and Mt. Ooe is just as stupid. How do you find that eye rape fun.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 21, 2010, 04:58:08 PM
Now I can't get past stage 1 and 2 again. This same thing happened when I failed an IN Lunatic 1cc when I should have managed it.

What the hell?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 21, 2010, 05:01:58 PM
I'm having more trouble with SA's Extra than I expected. The stage portion is such a nightmare. Perhaps I should take Kawaii Yokai's advice and do IN or MoF Extra instead.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on January 21, 2010, 06:01:48 PM
It's that first wave which comes after the particle part. I can't get into that gap, period.

Oh and Mt. Ooe is just as stupid. How do you find that eye rape fun.

Maybe you have a problem with fast moving objects? Well, i sure do as well if they are really fast and clippy but bubbles aren't. Mt. Ooe is one of my favorite spellcards. Yeah, really. Its Hells Tokamak that's eye rape.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Xijiy on January 21, 2010, 06:03:04 PM
Trying to beat PCB on normal without continuing while using a non-homing character is making me rage in brand new ways.

Edit: Damn you Youmu.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 21, 2010, 06:08:30 PM
Trying to beat PCB on normal without continuing while using a non-homing character is making me rage in brand new ways.

Edit: Damn you Youmu.
Youmu takes way too long with homing characters.
Way.
Too.
Long.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Xijiy on January 21, 2010, 06:38:42 PM
Youmu takes way too long with homing characters.
Way.
Too.
Long.

I can never be happy when I have to go up against youmu.

Ever.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 21, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
3 Full PCB Normal S4 practices w/ Reimu B (not counting ragequits).

5/0, 5/2 6/1



Fucking Prismrivers.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 21, 2010, 08:28:41 PM
Touhou failday, which means I die in the most stupid/clipdeath ways but capture Aya's survival card.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 21, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
I keep dying to Shizuha's midboss card and if I get past that I'm dying to Minoriko's crappy final card.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 22, 2010, 12:11:19 AM
(http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/12/80/32/92/th/untitl22.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=372&u=12803292)
Yeah, the line of vertical bullets (that is, horizontally moving) just had to line up with my hitbox this time. What that means is an additional 2-3 hits against me, and all because I can't get out of the way.

Doesn't help knowing that I died an additional 2 times with bombs in stock. And messed up "Polygraph" to boot (that is, 5 mistakes instead of the "usual" 4).

So even if I did make it with the Extra lives with I threw away rather quickly, there was no way I was going to make it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 22, 2010, 01:10:43 AM
I'm glad I died to Spin the Cephalic Plate because otherwise a perfect Nitori fight would have been ruined by Trauma in the Glimmering Depths..
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 22, 2010, 02:07:28 AM
OMG I got walled literally just before capturing Izuna Gongen. So close, dammit!
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 22, 2010, 02:20:13 AM
Now I'm dying to Minoriko's first nonspell pretty consistently as well as her first spellcard. I'm having trouble keeping attention on the nonspell that I end up dodging stuff on it with all sorts of twitchy movements that would make some people think TAS while I could do it consistently before that fail earlier. There's no reason for me to be messing up the first spell because it's fucking static IIRC. Then I fail to deathbomb on the next nonspell, though a normal bomb isn't enough for me to restart the run. Then the instacrap lasers as it was called earlier, which I've been doing consistently on lately, but occasionally get lasered.

Why is it that once I get close to the 1cc then fail I revert to complete suck?

Okay, that's enough for tonight.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 22, 2010, 02:22:22 AM
I have spent the last hour on the UFO Extra Stage. I have gotten past Kogasa once (because either I screwed up my UFO chain or I just died pre-Kogasa), and that run got to Nue, where I died because the Red UFOs have the biggest fucking hitboxes EVER and then I lost my last two lives to her blue-cards midspell. Again.


I fucking hate this stage.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on January 22, 2010, 02:47:23 AM
I keep dying to Shizuha's midboss card and if I get past that I'm dying to Minoriko's crappy final card.

And Bumper Crop Promise of the Wheat God-

never knew laser grids were a part of harvest festivals.

Never doubted that they could be used but still...

What Falling Leaves of Madness?

This is madness

THIS IS TOUHOU!!



Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 22, 2010, 03:35:23 AM
GODDAMNIT

SA Hard.  First death on lolKnockoutInThreeSteps; got walled.  Second on S4midboss Cat as the first damn wave cave up.  Die to Terrifying Hypnotism, I think twice?  Die to DDBB, die to BoWaP.  Die to the second enemies in S5.  Actually dodge a wave of Catwalk with 0 power.  Die when the streaming enemies show up.  Get to Rin 4 power, bomb her opener, die with 3 power on her first card.  Die on Venegeful Cannibal Spirit, game over on Ghost Wheels with full power to a bullet I did not see.

What.

The Crap.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 22, 2010, 04:25:53 AM
Shim, I imagine you're going for a 1cc? Bomb DBDB a bit after the third wave comes out, that actually makes it doable (if you went in at 4 Power, that is).
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 22, 2010, 04:32:12 AM
(if you went in at 4 Power, that is).
Dohohohoh...you're kidding, right?

I always screw up Terrifying Hypnotism.  I know how to do it, but I ALWAYS screw it up, and I end up bombing way too much on the stage, so 3 power is usually my best, more often 2, this time 1.  Ugly.

Avatar has been changed to properly reflect agitation.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 22, 2010, 04:45:13 AM
Failed to captured Source of Rains with about a second of shooting left to do.

Then almost got a 1 death no bomb on VoWG just to die in the last second for a second time.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on January 22, 2010, 05:00:46 AM
Youmu takes way too long with homing characters.
Way.
Too.
Long.

Maybe so but you shouldn't even use homing characters in PCB. Most of the stages are a pretty simple question of remembering spawn points so forward-focus types are certainly the best.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 22, 2010, 05:05:13 AM
Dohohohoh...you're kidding, right?

I always screw up Terrifying Hypnotism.  I know how to do it, but I ALWAYS screw it up, and I end up bombing way too much on the stage, so 3 power is usually my best, more often 2, this time 1.  Ugly.
I don't know how you try it, so I don't have a real base to judge. But here's how I do it (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6976) for reference, and I will say that it gets me through pretty damn consistently. As for the stage portion, everything except the two Orin sections is static, micromemorizable, or streaming-based. If anything, you should use the green amulet streaming section (before the second set of lasers) to regain any Power you might have lost - they give you quite a bit there, so it's worth learning how to stream it.

And to stay on-topic: I hate DBDB so much. Making that replay reminded me why I stopped trying to get better at it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 22, 2010, 08:20:44 AM
Aaaaaaaargh. My angst lately has kept me from being able to play Touhou. I can still dodge fine, but...my heart isn't in it. I hope this gets resolved soon, one way or the other.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on January 22, 2010, 08:21:02 AM
Maybe so but you shouldn't even use homing characters in PCB. Most of the stages are a pretty simple question of remembering spawn points so forward-focus types are certainly the best.

Actually, just scratch that. Went to try out Lunatic Youmu with homing type and walked away with a perfect clear aside from second non-spell which is easy - i just screwed up. Youmu doesn't take that long. I'd still recommend forward-focus though.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Krimmydoodle on January 22, 2010, 12:35:44 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6980

First attempt at it in a week.  Failed PCB Stage 4 NDNBNBB, pacifist stage intro, Lily timeout, full Lunasa battle.  At the final spellcard.

Damnit, I thought I was over this whole "failing shit on the final spell" thing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on January 22, 2010, 01:58:24 PM
Just tried SA Extra. Perfect run, except for one death on Philosophy's second phase (as usual)... and four deaths on Genetics.

...How the hell did that happen? :V I really, really need to get that card down.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 22, 2010, 02:01:29 PM
Just tried SA Extra. Perfect run, except for one death on Philosophy's second phase (as usual)
How did you do that :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 22, 2010, 02:03:52 PM
How do you get through MoF stage 4 without bombombombomb-life-bombombomb-life
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on January 22, 2010, 02:27:07 PM
How did you do that :V
I have no idea. I know exactly how to do it, but always end up clipping something... the slanted walls mess with me, I guess. Strangely enough I find the third, probably more difficult phase no trouble at all. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 22, 2010, 02:37:48 PM
I have no idea. I know exactly how to do it, but always end up clipping something... the slanted walls mess with me, I guess. Strangely enough I find the third, probably more difficult phase no trouble at all. :V
How can you fail at standing in one spot :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 22, 2010, 02:38:58 PM
How do you get through MoF stage 4 without bombombombomb-life-bombombomb-life

You streamstreamstream. :V MoF stage 4's difficulty is SO overrated, just because it has Momizi and the part after her.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on January 22, 2010, 02:51:38 PM
How can you fail at standing in one spot :V
Standing in one spot? ...Maybe I don't know how to do it, then. I get the feeling I'm missing something here. :V Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 22, 2010, 02:57:59 PM
Standing in one spot? ...Maybe I don't know how to do it, then. I get the feeling I'm missing something here. :V Care to elaborate?
The flowers never go into top middle if the first phase doesn't end there.
It basically goes in a U-shaped pattern, so stay there and wait for the 3rd phase :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 22, 2010, 04:18:53 PM
Terrifying Hypnotism 1 death no bomb timeout.

At least I've captured it once.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 22, 2010, 04:57:46 PM
I have no idea. I know exactly how to do it, but always end up clipping something... the slanted walls mess with me, I guess. Strangely enough I find the third, probably more difficult phase no trouble at all. :V

How do you do the third wave then ? Horizontal / Vertical ? Diagonal ? I always screw up at the last 3~4 sec, and it's NOT the flowers >_>
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on January 22, 2010, 05:13:34 PM
How do you do the third wave then ? Horizontal / Vertical ? Diagonal ? I always screw up at the last 3~4 sec, and it's NOT the flowers >_>
I always try to take advantage of the fact that the walls spawn bullets in the exact same places; starting from the top left/centre, I generally try to go through two walls to the right consecutively using unfocused movement, quickly focus to be between a gap in the walls below, and go through two of those at once, again unfocused. Go through another wall from the right if you have time, then just follow the box until the flowers are gone.

Do this three times total and you're sorted (you don't have to move as much on the third time if you're feeling pressured; you're more likely to die from rushing to make difficult gaps and faceplanting into a wall than you are from being crushed by flowers :V).
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 22, 2010, 05:18:56 PM
SA Stage 4 post-midboss Orin streaming. This is nearly fucking impossible. I've only captured that part of the stage once, every other time it's 1 death or 1 bomb.

DBDB- 1 death no bombs, every fucking time.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: yoshicookiezeus on January 22, 2010, 09:08:51 PM
IN Normal - game over at Idling Wave. I didn't think you could get this rusty in just a week...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 22, 2010, 09:35:26 PM
Failed a perfect run of SoEW extra right at the very end. ;_;
No, not the laser, it's not that embarrassing, but still very close.

God damnit, I know I can do this.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on January 22, 2010, 09:39:59 PM
Failed a perfect run of SoEW extra right at the very end. ;_;
No, not the laser, it's not that embarrassing, but still very close.

God damnit, I know I can do this.
I remember when I first cleared it. Had no extra lives, then suddenly got an Extend from simply hitting the boss with my shot... about 3 seconds before the laser killed me, which would have otherwise been Game Over.

I was all like "Y U HACK, MENG"

Also, if you didn't know, the explosions don't have very big hitboxes (Which isn't something you can infer, because this is SoEW, and SoEW is ridiculous.)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 22, 2010, 09:51:37 PM
Also, if you didn't know, the explosions don't have very big hitboxes (Which isn't something you can infer, because this is SoEW, and SoEW is ridiculous.)

Yeah, I know. Remember that phase where you have to misdirect the mines?
You don't have to.
You can just take it head on and you'll still live, the hitboxes are that tiny.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 22, 2010, 09:57:12 PM
I tried to play HRtP
Quit after the 5th continue on sariel (+ 5-8 continue before)
(Now die for the continues you have accumulated)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 22, 2010, 10:17:53 PM
LLS Extra midboss 2 deaths no bombs.

I shouldn't be dying any to it, even with no vert. Or if I do, just to one of the phases as I can capture the rest anyway.

Only made it to Gengetu's first phase despite a few stupid bombs and deaths with bombs in stock.


Edit: I still fail at timing out stuff. More 1 death no bomb timeouts of Terrifying Hypnotism. Some 1 death no bomb timeouts of Throwing Mount Togakushi, Pandemonium, and the other recollection cards I have captures of. 1 death no bomb on the ones I still need captures of and can practice against.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 23, 2010, 06:27:02 AM
Ran's third card, I accidentally run into a laser because I didn't notice how much they were criss-crossing, but a border appeared a split second before I would have died. Then I immediately slam into another laser in shock.

And Ran's fourth card pushed me literally all the way to the bottom of the screen and killed me, despite that "box" having been much higher before that. I kid you not, you could barely fit Marisa's whole sprite into that space, and that's not counting the bubbles.

I really hate this kind of randomness in danmaku.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 23, 2010, 06:45:44 AM
Ran's fourth card

Ran's fourth card (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxTZ446tbzE)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Xijiy on January 23, 2010, 07:07:49 AM
At one point Youmu used to be my favorite character..

Oh how things have changed.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 23, 2010, 07:22:09 AM
Ran's fourth card (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxTZ446tbzE)
Is Charming Siege supposed to act like that a lot? Most of the trouble I have with it is getting caught between the walls and the bubbles (which I consider a separate issue), so I don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 23, 2010, 11:30:48 AM
Failed LFO Lunatic as it was exploding FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helix ⑨ on January 23, 2010, 11:31:26 AM
Was clearing UFO normal with ReimuB (homing type) and reached Shou with 7 lives and 3 life parts. I CAME OUT WITH 3! yes that's actually 2 but got 4/4 life parts with the part shou dropped. And then I died twice on vortex-Nue and fucked up my UFO combos so I didnt get an extra life :( No 1cc for me.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 23, 2010, 01:20:35 PM
I tried UFO Normal No Focus

I didn't even make it past Murasa's survival card. I blame Marisa.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 23, 2010, 01:42:17 PM
I find Seamless Ceiling much easier than BoWaP for some reason.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 23, 2010, 03:47:47 PM
I

WILL

DESTROY

UFO

EXTRA
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 23, 2010, 04:42:36 PM
*Tries to unlock PCB Extra with MarisaB, captures Chen's midboss card.*

What the fuck? how did I die? I captured the thing. Okay, Give up and Retry, let's try it again.


Edit: game over on Resurrection Butterfly because I lost a life with 3 bombs to Alice's final card because I didn't press X fast enough. Not sure if that would have cleared if I had those bombs, but it would have helped. Arriving at that card 0/0 is just a huge fuck you.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: KrackoCloud on January 23, 2010, 09:38:46 PM
This is the second time I've failed to 1cc UFO Normal at "St. Nikou's Air Scroll" ;_;
Really, I can't beat any of Byakuren's patterns without bombing, except for her second nonspell.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 23, 2010, 09:53:23 PM
Second spellcard is static. Her third might be, but I haven't looked into it, so is St. Nikou's Air Scroll, and so is the final card if you memorize a path, which I can't be bothered to do.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on January 23, 2010, 11:08:36 PM
SA Extra 1DNB. The card I failed was Embers of Love. I died because I did something completely unnecessary that I knew was very risky in order to get a few more hits in on Koishi.

God damn my impatience. =_=
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on January 23, 2010, 11:18:59 PM
Second spellcard is static. Her third might be, but I haven't looked into it, so is St. Nikou's Air Scroll, and so is the final card if you memorize a path, which I can't be bothered to do.
The third spell's lasers follow the same patterns; I'm not sure if they're precisely static.

Air Jordan Scroll is static.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on January 23, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
Another 1DNB run of SA Extra. This time, my death was halfway through the final phase of Subterranean Rose.

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 23, 2010, 11:46:59 PM
The third spell's lasers follow the same patterns; I'm not sure if they're precisely static.
Lasers are definitely not static. But, they always have the same curvature.

Air Jordan Scroll is static.
Or close enough to being static to consider using similar movements; a form of micromem.

RNG hates me  ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 24, 2010, 12:13:45 AM
sjklafsdjkfhbsdjkbhfgsdjjksdbfjhsdgfsdvfbgjy

SA Hard.

Multiple deaths on Yuugi.

Multiple deaths on the stage portion of S4.

Multiple deaths on Terrifying Hypnotism.

HOLY HELL WHAT THE CRAP NO SERIOUSLY WHATSDKFNSDIOBFASDKOFNALSDF
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Revolver Koala on January 24, 2010, 12:44:59 AM
It was a while ago, but losing my last life about... I think 15 seconds from the end of Yuyuko's final spell card on normal mode. It's the closest I've been to a 1cc so far. I was almost mad enough to eat my gamepad.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on January 24, 2010, 01:55:10 AM
Had I captured either Hollow Giant Woo or Possessed by Phoenix, two spells that I nearly always capture on extra runs, or if my clipdeath on Fujiyama Volcano just hadn't happened, I would have had a new high score. I was only 6 million away.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 24, 2010, 06:19:40 AM
DKAFGNKDFGNAKDFGNKADFGADFKLGM

MIMA

YOU CHEATING GHOST DFIGKANDFGIKANDFGKADFG MIMA

Why can I no longer bomb against you?  On two matches against Mima, I pushed the bomb button a total of eight times and actually bombed once.  WHAT THE SDFINSADKGINADFKGNDFKLGNSDFLGNSDFGLSDMGKLSDFNGSDKFGNSDKFGNSDKFGNSDKFGNSDKFLGNSDFKLGNSDFKLGNSDFKGSNDFKGNSDFKGNSDKLFGSNDLFGSDNKLFGNSDKFGNSDKFGNS
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 24, 2010, 08:39:20 AM
bloody hell what just happened I can't even stream anymore apparently

also learned something very interesting

At least one, possibly two, maybe even three (but this one appears to be random and not at all a safe bet) of VIVIT's attacks can be dodged by standing perfectly still.  This includes the HOLY CRAP blue wave on Form 1, maybe the spinning blue lines (Gates's, also Form 1) and The Rainbow Wall Of Completely Undodgeable Death that Form 3 opens with after the moving lasers and streaming feathers.  However, I died trying that a second time, but I think I know why; it may be that only the second and third chunks are stilldodges, and you have watch the first.  Of course, there's only a fraction of a second between each...

Anyone feeling particularly masochistic is encouraged to confirm the above.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on January 24, 2010, 03:45:43 PM
At least one, possibly two, maybe even three (but this one appears to be random and not at all a safe bet) of VIVIT's attacks can be dodged by standing perfectly still.  This includes the HOLY CRAP blue wave on Form 1, maybe the spinning blue lines (Gates's, also Form 1) and The Rainbow Wall Of Completely Undodgeable Death that Form 3 opens with after the moving lasers and streaming feathers.  However, I died trying that a second time, but I think I know why; it may be that only the second and third chunks are stilldodges, and you have watch the first.  Of course, there's only a fraction of a second between each...

Anyone feeling particularly masochistic is encouraged to confirm the above.

For the first two patterns you mentioned, you're quite right; that's how they're meant to be dodged.  But for the third, I'm pretty sure that that's not the case.  You probably just got lucky.

Also, there's another attack that can be dodged that way; Gates's crisscrossing toothpick spam in stage 3.  If you sit at the very bottom center(line up your shot with the tip of his ship), the lasers will all pass by you.  Though this safespot does fail occasionally (as in, like 1 in every 15 runs)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on January 24, 2010, 03:59:24 PM
For the first two patterns you mentioned, you're quite right; that's how they're meant to be dodged.
You're kidding, right?

*checks*

...

...
...

How are you even supposed to know that?!?

Edit: This strategy also works for the alternating red/blue wave flower pattern, with what seems to be approximately a 1 in 5 chance of failure. Considering that pattern is otherwise the hardest thing in the entire fucking game, I'll take my chances with this safespot from now on, thanks.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on January 24, 2010, 04:22:02 PM
How are you even supposed to know that?!?

Replays. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I5fr83bNyE)  Thank god, because this guy's SG videos are the only ones I've found on the internet.


Quote
Edit: This strategy also works for the alternating red/blue wave flower pattern, with what seems to be approximately a 1 in 5 chance of failure. Considering that pattern is otherwise the hardest thing in the entire fucking game, I'll take my chances with this safespot from now on, thanks.

Wait what?  Please elaborate.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 24, 2010, 05:37:01 PM
SA Stage 4 Lunatic No Dea

Wait, what the hell do you mean I died to your last card fucking twice?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 24, 2010, 06:43:31 PM
But for the third, I'm pretty sure that that's not the case.  You probably just got lucky.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

No, it works.  I don't know if it's 100%, but it works.

Goddamnit VIVIT.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 24, 2010, 07:27:12 PM
A new run ends on Aya, because "hurr durr i can has graez on non-cards". THERE IS NO GRAZING AYA'S NON CARDS, IT'S DODGE OR DIE FFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 24, 2010, 08:02:57 PM
SA Stage 5 Lunatic 1 death.

If I entered Orin with 4 power, bombed 1 less time on the final nonspell, and/or didn't screw up and die on Ghost Wheels, that would have been a no death run of the stage.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 24, 2010, 11:23:00 PM
A new run ends on Aya, because "hurr durr i can has graez on non-cards". THERE IS NO GRAZING AYA'S NON CARDS, IT'S DODGE OR DIE FFFFFFFFFFFFF-

>Mountain of Faith
>graze

:V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 24, 2010, 11:40:09 PM
Game over on Subterranean Sun.

2 deaths, one with 2 power, one with 3, on SS.

One death to the mini-Satori fairies right before Utsuho.  First time ever.  With two power.

GOD
DAMN
IT

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 25, 2010, 12:13:38 AM
SA Stage 3 just kicks my ass all over the place. I'm much better at Stage 4 and 5.

It was the opposite on the lower difficulties.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 25, 2010, 12:24:08 AM
Three 1DNB runs of EoSD Extra.

Two of those deaths were on starbow break.
The other one was on L?vatein. I shit thee not.

Also after switching to MarisaA, I can safely say that she trivialises QED so much, it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: jc_foster on January 25, 2010, 12:40:05 AM
Repeated failures on Kanako's opener. And about everything else she throws at me. I'm tempted to put a montage of such antics together and call it "Mountain of Fail" ....
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 25, 2010, 12:42:15 AM
L?vatein

teaspit.jpg
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 25, 2010, 02:56:48 AM
and what just happened to my ability to play touhou

how did I die twice, twice in a row, to release of the id

what

what

WHAT
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 25, 2010, 04:26:42 AM
Tried MoF Extra No Focus after my successful IN and PCB clears like that.

Die to Suwako's opener
Die to Two Bows, Two Claps and One bow
Die twice to Long-Arm and Long-Leg
Game over on Jade of the Horrid River
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 25, 2010, 05:41:23 AM
CHEEEEEEEN! Why do I keep dying against you? You're supposed to be easy, and I've perfected you hoards of times before. Why must your random bullets in "Blue Oni Red Oni" be so retarded, dammit?

I then tried SA Stage 5 Hard once, and I captured the Catwalk easily.

Fucking nekomata shikigami.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 25, 2010, 02:25:08 PM
>Mountain of Faith
>graze

:V
Yes, trying to dodge by moving very little and staying close to the bullets. I know that with MoF's hit detection it's suicidal, but that's how I do it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: orinrin on January 25, 2010, 02:48:42 PM
Who else loves ramming into a stray bullet while clearing Yuyuko's last card? (On your last life too, thus preventing your first normal mode 1CC.) I think I deserved it though, since I did bomb spam through most of her other cards.  I had two bombs in stock when I died because I can't f*cking death bomb even with the border team in IN.  God I suck.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 25, 2010, 03:33:45 PM
IN no focus lunatic 1cc attempt with solo Reimu. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7038)
Made it to Kaguya's second spellcard before losing my last life. I blame myself for completely breaking down from Reisen and onward.

Maybe I should try a different shottype...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on January 25, 2010, 04:31:26 PM
An hour of PCB high score attempts sees me get to Ran once and not only muck up the border before Youkai Laser, but die there as well.

Que sighquit.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 25, 2010, 05:19:31 PM
ufo st5 lunatic
impossible rapefuck hurr
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lopsidation on January 25, 2010, 05:48:18 PM
Soooo close. Only 19, and it would have been 2 if I hadn't messed up deathchaining.

In case you're wondering, I'm trying to do IN Extra's stage portion with 0 graze. It's so crazy it's rage-inducing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on January 25, 2010, 06:12:52 PM
I'm glad Charming Siege killed me, otherwise my PCB extra run would have been ruined by UNILATERAL CONTACT.

DAMNED RANDOM BOSS MOVEMENT.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Ragnarok on January 25, 2010, 06:30:24 PM
GODDAMN Byakuren, first try normal sanaea challenged her with no lives left, lost of course

2nd and 3rd time 5 lifes, damnstupid death, final spellcard killed me both time, one time i already heard "the sound of victory"
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 25, 2010, 07:44:55 PM
I'm seriously thinking that UFO is a really bad game.
How much playtesting could have been done when some cards are borderline possible, 50% of the attacks are an autobomb and the very final attack is easier than 90% of the stage?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Ragnarok on January 25, 2010, 08:03:44 PM
^^ guess i am way to bad then, once again playing reimub normal, playing really bad 2 lives left @ byakuren, and finally losing against her last spellcard again^^

byakurens last spell for me is like losing at least 1 live for sure^^, milky way is bombing only i am to stupid for them and the final hard thing is when she comes down, i am to slow to avoid all of them when i am above her at easy i managed it but my skill isn't high enough yet for normal

but i think it's the easiest game so far never managed to "beat" normal that fast
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 25, 2010, 08:37:09 PM
I'm seriously thinking that UFO is a really bad game.
How much playtesting could have been done when some cards are borderline possible, 50% of the attacks are an autobomb and the very final attack is easier than 90% of the stage?
Very little, apparently. But then there's the UFO mechanic that lets you spam lives and bombs, so I guess he tried to keep it balanced. What he achieved is as following: you need to memorize UFO color combos to try and have as many lives as possible when reaching bosses, because the death count will be unnaturally high compared to other Touhous.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 25, 2010, 09:13:24 PM
My SanaeB 1cc of Normal chained only for bombs.

MarisA and SanaeA chained reds.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 25, 2010, 09:34:21 PM
BAWWWWWWWWWWW
 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7043)
IN extra
I perfected everything, even caught the rings of death.
I am then forced to deathbomb on Possessed by Phoenix's second phase because I did it the Kefit way and got walled on the top of the screen. Caught Hourai DOLL. Too depressed to do well on Imperishable Shooting.

I'm never, ever doing it this way again, someone tell me a different, consistent way to do the second phase.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Illlumise on January 25, 2010, 09:37:52 PM
lol I just died on Kaguya on Normal.

I mean, wtf?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 25, 2010, 09:52:56 PM
someone tell me a different, consistent way to do the second phase.
circle tapping
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 25, 2010, 10:03:03 PM
I still mess up going in circles occasionally, which is why I didn't trust myself to capture it in my NF run.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 25, 2010, 10:33:56 PM
someone tell me a different, consistent way to do the second phase.
but... but... the Kefit method is the different, consistent way.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 25, 2010, 10:37:11 PM
It's not consistent if your sense of rhythm sucks.

I tap too slow and get hit, I tap too fast and get walled, no exceptions. I at least usually get it the other way.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 25, 2010, 10:39:26 PM
AAAAAAGGGGGGHGHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHHAAA

SA stage 6 1DNB
ON THE SECOND BoWaP FAIRY

YOU'D SWEAR I'M DOING THIS ON PURPOSE ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 25, 2010, 10:45:09 PM
It's not consistent if your sense of rhythm sucks.
Just tap to the music, zero sense of rhythm required. Unlike, say, Blazing Wheel.

I'm absolutely puzzled at Jaimers failing it, but then again the recent flurry of IN extra runs has seen a lot of strange mistakes by top players.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 25, 2010, 11:22:31 PM
Just tap to the music, zero sense of rhythm required. Unlike, say, Blazing Wheel.

I'm absolutely puzzled at Jaimers failing it, but then again the recent flurry of IN extra runs has seen a lot of strange mistakes by top players.

I can capture Blazing Wheel with my eyes closed, yet I can't do the second phase consistently worth crap.

Anyway, I just thought of a fun challenge: Capture Subterranean Sun on the top of the screen.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 25, 2010, 11:25:46 PM
I can capture Blazing Wheel with my eyes closed, yet I can't do the second phase consistently worth crap.

Anyway, I just thought of a fun challenge: Capture Subterranean Sun on the top of the screen.
It is really fun. I did it on Normal mode with ReimuC, it was pretty fun just bombing the entire Okuu battle :V

Also, two 1DNB EoSD Extra runs. Both ruined by Counter Clock.

I fucking hate this card :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 25, 2010, 11:35:28 PM
Also, two 1DNB EoSD Extra runs. Both ruined by Counter Clock.

I was going to say something like would you people stop failing at the easiest things but I just ragequit a no-focus EoSD extra run after being L?vatein'ed SO HARD
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 25, 2010, 11:38:26 PM
Tapping to the music doesn't always help. While Blazing Wheel's rhythm is close to something you can hear in the music, I wouldn't say it's precisely on beat (judging from memory here), and that can definitely throw someone off. I do use a rhythm, but I try not to focus on the music so much as the rhythm itself. Doing it that way has never failed me.

And Jaimers, doesn't your challenge mean only ReimuC and MarisaB can beat SS without timing it out? Unless ReimuB's homing shots go backwards, but I've never tried that.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 25, 2010, 11:44:55 PM
Tapping to the music doesn't always help.
Blazing Wheel
I never meant that Blazing Wheel is meant to be taken on by tapping to the music, in fact I was saying the complete opposite: that PbP's second phase is easier because you can tap to the music there, unlike in Blazing Wheel where you have to find the rhythm yourself.

Just tap to the music, zero sense of rhythm required. Unlike, say, Blazing Wheel.



And Suwako's second card is evil for no-focus.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 25, 2010, 11:58:35 PM
Meanwhile, I suck at Blazing Wheel and have never successfully done the second phase of PbP via the "tapping method." Yay. \o/
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 26, 2010, 12:53:33 AM
HURF DURF

I tried SA Lunatic, just to see how far I could get after 1ccing Hard.

Game over on midboss Yuugi.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on January 26, 2010, 03:35:22 AM
Wow I really fucking suck at Touhou now.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 26, 2010, 03:42:31 AM
Suwako No Focus is a lot harder than I thought it'd be.

Game overed on Maze of Love on an EoSD attempt at No Focus.

Both of these are going to be painful if I try to clear without focusing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 26, 2010, 04:16:00 AM
Is PCB extra no-vert hard or what

Wizard Fox Thoughts: x-1/x

On the bright side, I was this close to capturing Chen's first card.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 26, 2010, 02:48:58 PM
Died to Parsee's first boss card because I wasn't paying attention. Stage 1 or 2 kills my runs almost every time now.

Yamame went differently than usual in capturing her opener and bombing her final instead of the other way. I can't consistently do either.


Edit: Failed an SA Lunatic 1cc as Utsuho was in the small phase after her lifebar is depleted.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 26, 2010, 05:17:12 PM
SA lunatic: what is this i dont even
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on January 26, 2010, 06:02:45 PM
SA lunatic: what is this i dont even
Yeah basically.

Speaking of SA, I'm torn between Rage and "Mild Success" feelings about SA Extra.  For the longest time I couldn't even make it to Koishi, then I could hardly take on Ancestors Standing Beside Your Bed... and then today I made it up to having four lives at one point.

But I'm already getting sick of SA Extra.  Because I herp so much derp.  I can capture just about anything SA Extra throws at me, honestly, from what I've seen (Only made it up to Rorsach In Danmaku) but then I don't and I die and that just hurts even more D:
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 26, 2010, 09:12:08 PM
IN extra without Border Team for the first time.
Death on Xu-Fu
Death on HMD
Bombspam on Woo
Game overed on Volcano
WHAT ?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on January 26, 2010, 09:20:14 PM
Did you just say you had to bombspam Wu?

...Wow.

Also, tHRtP.  Or, the Highly Possible to Piss (me off).

I can't even beat Shingyoku on Normal.  ARGH.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 26, 2010, 09:25:41 PM
Did you just say you had to bombspam Wu?

...Wow.

Also, tHRtP.  Or, the Highly Possible to Piss (me off).

I can't even beat Shingyoku on Normal.  ARGH.

The Highly Reaction to Fail ?  "Yay I perfected Shingyo...YINYANGBALLED"
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: yoshicookiezeus on January 26, 2010, 09:29:09 PM
Death on Xu-Fu
Death on HMD
Bombspam on Woo
Game overed on Volcano
WHAT ?
Apart from the deaths at Xu Fu's Dimension and Honest Man's Death, that sounds just about like most of my attempts at IN Extra no matter what team I use.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 26, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
Apart from the deaths at Xu Fu's Dimension and Honest Man's Death, that sounds just about like most of my attempts at IN Extra no matter what team I use.

I beated IN extra with border team 3 times in a row with 3 lives left.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on January 26, 2010, 09:48:55 PM
I beated IN extra with border team 3 times in a row with 3 lives left.

Okay, now I can see why you're mad.

But still, why the HELL did you have to bombspam Wu?  Or do you not trick it by flying around over Mokou's head?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 26, 2010, 09:49:50 PM
I beated IN extra with border team 3 times in a row with 3 lives left.
Woo is still a hard attack and Fujiyama volcano still destroys me. Beating it is still pretty far away
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 26, 2010, 09:51:29 PM
Okay, now I can see why you're mad.

But still, why the HELL did you have to bombspam Wu?  Or do you not trick it by flying around over Mokou's head?

Sakuya speed is disturbing when you play normaly with Reimu/Yukari. I went ATAGHATAGHA. No bombs for rings of death.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 27, 2010, 12:44:44 AM
1 Death timeout of "PSS". The death happened at the 10 seconds before I timed it out.

The death was very avoidable, I just clipped the wall while moving up.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 27, 2010, 02:22:48 AM
2 death no bomb timeout of Ooe followed by
3 death no bomb timeout of Ooe followed by
two 4 death no bomb timeouts of Ooe.

Maybe I shouldn't even try. It's was pretty much luck that got me my one capture anyway.

Edit: Tried timing out some stage 1 stuff just to do it.

Kisume's bucket lasers: Success :)
Yamame's Opener: 3 deaths no bombs :(
Yamame's first card: 1 death no bomb :(
Yamame's second noncard no safespot: Success :)
Yamame's final: 3 deaths no bombs :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on January 27, 2010, 02:45:52 AM
Woo is still a hard attack and Fujiyama volcano still destroys me. Beating it is still pretty far away
Hollow Giant "Wu" 's attacks, except for the initial red one at the start of each 'loop', is aimed at you.  If you follow Mokou and go over her head, from the left, up, and around, she'll be firing them all at the cieling/sides.  The end result is that only a tiny number of bullets are spawned in comparison.

Fujiyama Volcano is still bullshit though.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 27, 2010, 03:01:55 AM
Fujiyama Volcano can be memorized, then it's just a matter of not messing it up.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 27, 2010, 05:50:56 AM
The better I get at SA and UFO, the worse I am at PCB >_>

Stage 4 Practice finished with 2 lives left. What the hell dfjslkfjdslkfj
Then again I didn't bomb
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 27, 2010, 06:03:07 AM
The better I get at SA and UFO, the worse I am at PCB >_>
You have no idea how much this affects me. Except it also carries over to IN, and strangely enough not EoSD.

I guess I should probably just stick to PC-98 + MoF-> for the sake of keeping my skills consistent. Or, I could try and skew it like a specialist. Which is probably the best course of action for me  :V

Anyway, I'm going to RAEG at the fact that I did a TAS "revision" of "PSS"; only to realize at the end of the Spell Card that the RNG was in my favor for the entire duration (no "uppercutting" umbrellas while I was dodging walls, the corners were safe, and more), which meant that it was actually possible for me to legitimately time it out without doing anything extreme other than "supergrazing".
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 27, 2010, 06:08:38 AM
God I'm inconsistent at the second pellet hell section. I've been testing an earlier time for the first cutback with some success, but I keep hitting random bullets in the worst ways. And I'm almost convinced that the pellets are programmed to see into the future - how else can they be such effective killers?

Tried timing out some stage 1 stuff just to do it.

Yamame's Opener: 3 deaths no bombs :(
I feel the need to show you how to do this again. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7015)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 27, 2010, 06:10:24 AM
blasgrfargn

I can't last longer than 3 minutes on anything
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 27, 2010, 06:59:59 AM
O_O

Lunatic "Scarlet Weather Rhapsody of All Humankind" is fucking INSANE
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 27, 2010, 07:55:40 PM
so I had one of my best dodges of VoWG ever

and I died a few times

but I had amazing dodging and I'd only died three times

and THERE WAS STILL A MINUTE LEFT

and I AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH'd
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 27, 2010, 09:43:50 PM
Got distracted by someone during Honest Man's Death causing me to lose 2 lives and 5 bombs that could have gotten me past the rings of death with solo Reimu and maybe a clear. Instead, I arrive at them 0/0.

How much does Graze, Time, and Lives/bombs factor into score anyway?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Heartbeam on January 27, 2010, 11:39:35 PM
How much does Graze, Time, and Lives/bombs factor into score anyway?

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Imperishable_Night:_Gameplay#Clear_Bonus (http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Imperishable_Night:_Gameplay#Clear_Bonus)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 28, 2010, 12:10:17 AM
Hydro Camouflage is so clippy. I'm pretty sure I died several times a row when nothing even touched me.

And I got denied a capture right as I depleted the lifebar on it.

Also, Spin the Cephalic Plate is nowhere near as easy as it looks.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 28, 2010, 03:33:24 AM
Yet another perfect EoSD Extra run ruined by Q.E.D.


I remember when I first started trying this. My fourth try, I had a random clipdeath from nowhere on Flan's second midspell, but figured that was natural given my skill level at the time (could barely 1cc Normal), and continued. And perfected everything. And captured Q.E.D. for the first time. And then screamed.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 28, 2010, 03:58:27 AM
I'm glad I was hit by a few of Kaguya's Last Spells, because if I wasn't that would have been a perfect run of Hard mode FinalB ruined by getting hit right before capturing Buddhist Diamond.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 28, 2010, 09:52:05 AM
MoF Extra, ONE death.
At Froggy Braves the Elements.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 28, 2010, 12:08:10 PM
Sorry for double posting, but this has been bugging me a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB2MvzJ0NyA

TAS ?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mikeKOSA on January 28, 2010, 12:51:17 PM
Sorry for double posting, but this has been bugging me a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB2MvzJ0NyA

TAS ?


nope, i guess not... bjw also done that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxww4UGdWiY& (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxww4UGdWiY&)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 28, 2010, 02:24:57 PM
If it's bjw then I'm convinced :V

But what about his (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB2MvzJ0NyA) jerky movements ?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 28, 2010, 03:11:36 PM
If it's bjw then I'm convinced :V

But what about his (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB2MvzJ0NyA) jerky movements ?

It looks fairly legitimate if doing Honest Man's Death that way comes down to muscle memory like I think it does.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 28, 2010, 04:02:46 PM
I think it's okay to suspect, because there was also this PoFV Reimu vs. Cirno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwYBP7bABhw) video lying around in his channel :V

0:52.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 28, 2010, 04:04:01 PM
he didn't even focus :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 28, 2010, 04:34:03 PM
Goddamnit, why can't anything go right for me these days?

Perfect run ruined at Subterranean Sun. TWICE.
Failed a capture of Parasol Star Memories. The card ended by my deathwave.
Lost count how many times QED ruined a perfect run, maybe I should just give in and use MarisaA...

I think it's okay to suspect, because there was also this PoFV Reimu vs. Cirno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwYBP7bABhw) video lying around in his channel :V

0:52.

Yeah, that looks pretty suspicious. You don't dodge some of those waves without focusing, you just don't.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 28, 2010, 05:36:28 PM
Another IN Hard FinalB run

Fail Brilliant Dragon Bullet, Fail Buddhist Diamond, fail kaguya's 3rd Last Spell.

Perfect stage portion, every other nonspell and spellcard captured. Fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 28, 2010, 06:13:53 PM
=_= (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7097)
I need to kill someone...HINAAA NOOO I am cursed. I need to run in bullets, even if they clear in 0.5 sec
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 28, 2010, 06:40:16 PM
Lately, Flandre has decided "'y'know what? I'm gonna sit here on the side of the screen, where Marisa can't hit me at all. And I will stay here for the whole time until she gets hit. And then I will move back into her range."

FOR THREE RUNS IN A ROW
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 28, 2010, 09:10:50 PM
Why is Border Team the popular choice again?

I just game overed to fucking Keine while trying to use them.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on January 28, 2010, 09:19:03 PM
IN's shottypes all work differently and require their own strategies to be handled well.  People seem way to quick to judge teams that they don't use because they try to play them like their main team and go wtf when they start failing at everything.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 28, 2010, 09:21:07 PM
Why is Border Team the popular choice again?
Because it's normally the players' first choice. That being said, it also carries a lot of "survival" advantages over other teams, which furthers this bias.

Even though I did 1cc first with the Netherworld Team, I'm still without a doubt, much better with the Border Team due to overusage / over-reliance.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 28, 2010, 09:23:35 PM
IN's shottypes all work differently and require their own strategies to be handled well.  People seem way to quick to judge teams that they don't use because they try to play them like their main team and go wtf when they start failing at everything.
This. Also the Border Team is noob friendly because of homing, and even if it's such a pain to have Ran lock on anything, the damage is pretty decent when focused as well.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 28, 2010, 09:33:37 PM
no, SCREW YOU DONUT, UFO is a terrible, terrible, objectively bad game
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 28, 2010, 09:43:37 PM
The problem I have with them is that the homing does crap damage and doesn't clear enemies quickly enough to prevent having a lot of crap shot at you.

It doesn't do me any good if I have to dodge lots of dense attacks in the later part of stage 2, most of stage 3, parts of stage 4, and the first half of stage 5.

I'd probably do better with the fucking Scarlet Team, and I don't even play them.

Edit: just tried and game overed on Boss Reimu. Died with bombs in stock before her then died with 6 bombs in stock on the last life, so I probably could have made it to stage 5.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 28, 2010, 10:28:33 PM
The problem I have with them is that the homing does crap damage and doesn't clear enemies quickly enough to prevent having a lot of crap shot at you.

It doesn't do me any good if I have to dodge lots of dense attacks in the later part of stage 2, most of stage 3, parts of stage 4, and the first half of stage 5.
Uh... Focus more? Yukari's damage is pretty ridiculous considering it's a Lock-on.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7101

Blind runs FTL.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 28, 2010, 10:43:19 PM
Yukari can't cover everything and Reimu's too weak and takes too long to cover stuff.

I almost never have issues with stage 5 in practice, but occasionally that part does go bad.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 28, 2010, 11:11:52 PM
FONT SIZE IS NOT BIG ENOUGH TO ADEQUATE EXPRESS RAGE

or in other words

WHAT THE CRAP MARIE
WHAT THE CRAP
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 29, 2010, 01:40:01 AM
no, SCREW YOU DONUT, UFO is a terrible, terrible, objectively bad game
this
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 29, 2010, 02:10:05 AM
Tried SoEW Normal No Bombs

Game overed on 5 Magic Stones due to a death on stage 2 boss, death on stage 3, and the rest there.

Lost the second credit at Marisa

Lost the third one at Mima

Well, I didn't get to see her last phase, but there was no way I was capturing it.

This is not within my skill range.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 29, 2010, 03:25:26 AM
this

You can't quote yourself. :V

What in particular brought this on?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 29, 2010, 03:59:56 AM
no, SCREW YOU DONUT, UFO is a terrible, terrible, objectively bad game
once again this

also I just game overed on midboss Nue on stage 6

two deaths

six bombs left
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 29, 2010, 04:02:23 AM
once again this

also I just game overed on midboss Nue on stage 6

two deaths

six bombs left

I know this will only incite further theshim RAAAAAAGE (tm), but considering midboss Nue is all but static this is hardly the game's fault. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 29, 2010, 04:04:47 AM
Yeah, the deaths there were my fault.

The fact that the game is godawful, is ZUN's.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 29, 2010, 04:12:56 AM
I don't care how many of you say UFO is a bad game, until you give me a satisfactory answer WHY it is so bad other than the fact that you need to learn a smart and practical UFO route I will never stop defending it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 29, 2010, 04:18:33 AM
The game features the highest bullet density to date (especially stages 3 to 5) while REQUIRING the player to move around the screen chasing the UFOs.  The UFOs, in addition, are often obscured by the bullets to the point that you accidentally pick up ones you don't want, leading to you having to EVADE POWERUPS to keep an ideal chain going.  And your argument about "learning a smart and practical UFO route" translates simply to FORCED MEMORIZATION more than any skill whatsoever.  It is counterintuitive to everything a danmaku game should be and pisses me off to no end.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 29, 2010, 04:23:58 AM
I haven't seen replays of everyone's performances, so I can't be sure, but taking ShiningDrake's replay he sent me as an example, you guys are overthinking the UFOs waaaaay too much. And "forced memorization?" Hardly more than the rest of the series requires. Even if you mess up a chain, it SHOULDN'T be the end of your run because you can just pick up your chaining later. As for the highest bullet density, UFO DOES have above-average difficulty danmaku. It also gives you a ton of resources to combat that (see my stage 5 replay I posted yesterday).

The only point I'll grant you guys is that the stage portion of stage 3 is terrible.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chen on January 29, 2010, 04:26:44 AM
No , SA is worse than UFO.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 29, 2010, 04:29:17 AM
No , SA is worse than UFO.
Distinctly false.  SA may or may not be more difficult, but it is well-designed.  UFO is garbage.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on January 29, 2010, 04:31:27 AM
Wait, danmaku games aren't all about memorization?  That's news to me. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on January 29, 2010, 04:32:19 AM
The game features the highest bullet density to date (especially stages 3 to 5) while REQUIRING the player to move around the screen chasing the UFOs.  The UFOs, in addition, are often obscured by the bullets to the point that you accidentally pick up ones you don't want, leading to you having to EVADE POWERUPS to keep an ideal chain going.  And your argument about "learning a smart and practical UFO route" translates simply to FORCED MEMORIZATION more than any skill whatsoever.  It is counterintuitive to everything a danmaku game should be and pisses me off to no end.
1. No.
2. Once you understand the mechanics of the changing UFO colours, then it's not a problem at all.
3+4. Isn't this a standard of just about any Shmup (danmaku or other)? Isn't it recommended that you memorize stage portions in other games anyway? Just to give a recent example, the issue of IN STAGE 3.

Cut: yep.

The only point I'll grant you guys is that the stage portion of stage 3 is terrible.
Dodge or die good sir.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 29, 2010, 04:35:38 AM
SA is much fairer than UFO is.

Difficulty is fine, but UFO screwed the difficulty transition that the other games had. Going from normal to Hard or Hard to Lunatic wasn't too bad in the other games. UFO Normal is way too easy, and I've only ever made it to stage 4 of UFO Hard on one credit once, then I couldn't clear it with continues(was lazy at the time though and I probably have been stuck on stage 6 if I continued).


UFO Hard is harder than most of the Lunatics. I have the skill needed to 1cc IN, PoFV, MoF, and SA Lunatics but haven't succeeded on any. I don't have the skill to 1cc UFO Hard. The only other Hards I haven't 1cc'd are HRtP(but this doesn't count), SoEW(but this one is pointless due to Lunatic), PoDD, MS(haven't tried enough), EoSD(could but haven't bothered), PCB(I fail at this game, lol can't consistently 1cc Normal), and the fighting games(but these don't count either)

Hell, I got the farthest in SA Lunatic than the others. Sure, I made it to Hourai Jewel in IN, Kanako's final nonspell in MoF, but I have actually depleted all of Utsuho's lifebars but failed after that.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 29, 2010, 04:47:04 AM
I understand this, but why? Why? Other than the difficulty being harder I don't see how this automatically makes it impossible. My progression of learning the parts of the stages and the attacks of the bosses was normal, even a little faster since I'm a lot better than I was when SA came out. Yet I'm in the vast minority. Why is that? Is it because "I'm Donut?" Or is it some thing I and a few others have figured out that has escaped everyone else?

Please don't get me wrong people, I'm not trying to rub this in your face. I want to help you guys in any way I can, but if I don't even know specifically what you're going AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH over I can't do that. :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on January 29, 2010, 04:50:20 AM
Some people just don't like it.

sry dude
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chen on January 29, 2010, 04:56:27 AM
Quote
"I'm Donut?"

What kind?

Also , CANT BEAT DAMN NORMAL MODE ON EOSD WITHOUT BACKING UP INTO BULLET.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 29, 2010, 04:59:45 AM
Some people just don't like it.

sry dude

If you guys can't respect me not liking PoFV, I can't respect your guy's dislike of UFO. We gotta start somewhere.

What kind?

Strawberry if you must know.

Getting back on-topic, everyone hates UFO and it makes me rage. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 29, 2010, 05:00:04 AM
Also, if it weren't for EoSD and the games before it, UFO would have the worst scoring systems in the series.


Too much randomness. In EoSD, the randomness didn't mess you up anywhere near what UFO does. Usually the same for any other random attacks in other games. Sometimes you get bad luck, but not nearly as often as UFO.

UFO system and availability of lots of lives and bombs gave Zun a bad excuse to throw lots more near undodgeable BS at you.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 29, 2010, 05:17:19 AM
Getting back on-topic, everyone hates UFO and it makes me rage. :V

UFO is my most favorite Touhou game :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 29, 2010, 05:19:22 AM
I don't hate UFO, but UFO hates me.  :'(


EoSD
randomness
EoSD is streaming followed by Remilia. Like LLS, but with a booby trap at the end.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 29, 2010, 05:25:17 AM
Oh, I forgot one more thing that drives me absolutely insane: the power system SUCKS SO HARD, especially losing a full power every time you die.

If you guys can't respect me not liking PoFV, I can't respect your guy's dislike of UFO. We gotta start somewhere.
I have no problem with you not liking PoFV; I'm not that big a fan of it either.  I'd still rather play it than UFO, but that's apparently just me.

Then again, PoFV is an entirely different subset of BS, but I don't expect the same things from it as I would from the single player ones.

EDIT: Ah screw it, that was just a bunch of trolling.  Trolling UFO, but still trolling.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on January 29, 2010, 03:34:18 PM
On the subject of UFO hate:  Slowdown during Ichirin and Murasa.
(Not to be confused with slowdown during Utsuho's first card)

On the subject of SA hate:  Clipdeath (hi Satori/Parsee), the entire Yugi fight, etc.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 29, 2010, 03:44:22 PM
I think ZUN started going a bit crazy with the difficulty from SA onwards. SA isn't all that bad, though going from hard to lunatic is going to be AHGHAGHAHG at first impact, but UFO is fucking insane. To UFO's credit: good bombs. I still have no idea why he changed the idea from "end bad cards early" to "cancel bullets for a while and cripple you do less damage" in SA.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 29, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
Just failed a few Hourai Jewel timeout attempts at 22 seconds left. I know I can do this. It's not that hard of a spell once you know when to turn around, but I keep messing up.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chen on January 29, 2010, 05:25:45 PM
Why doesn't Touhou 10 , 11 , and 12 have the same feel as the previous games?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 29, 2010, 06:10:04 PM
Tried unlocking UFO Hard for stage practice. I couldn't get past Shou. Those nonspells are impossible to read luckshit. Radiant Treasure Gun sucks. Vajra sucks. Her final spell kept clipping me.

I only perfected midboss Nazrin once. The orb spam is complete bullshit.


/r score.dat or TAS methods so I can unlock it myself.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 29, 2010, 06:34:23 PM
MoF Hard.
I don't bomb enough.
Aya is kidding me.
I move too much, and MoF is streaming so stage fail.
Nitori is easy.
Aya is bullshit
Sanae is lollastcard but the rest is bomb.
Stage 4 is sex.
Stage 5 is killing me for no reason.
FUCK.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on January 29, 2010, 06:42:14 PM
Tried unlocking UFO Hard for stage practice. I couldn't get past Shou. Those nonspells are impossible to read luckshit. Radiant Treasure Gun sucks. Vajra sucks. Her final spell kept clipping me.

I only perfected midboss Nazrin once. The orb spam is complete bullshit.


/r score.dat or TAS methods so I can unlock it myself.
Not sure if I have Hard, but I have ReimuA Lunatic if you want :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 29, 2010, 06:43:55 PM
But didn't you 1cc Hard?

I'd like it with all shot types actually just so I can see which one works best for me.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on January 29, 2010, 06:44:07 PM
I feel so damn close to perfecting SA Stage 5 Hard. I just have to stop dying in the pellet hell sections like a n00b. Even the Catwalk feels easier - my history suggests a 40% capture rate, but that includes back when I rarely caught it to begin with. I'm also still ironing out a few kinks for "Small Demon's Revival", but I can see my progress there at least. It's those pellet hells that keep taunting me...

And I've just remembered how much of a chore it's become to try perfecting Stage 4 Hard. Fucking DBDB...

MoF Hard.
I don't bomb enough.
Aya is kidding me.
I move too much, and MoF is streaming so stage fail.
MoF is not the most stream-heavy game out there. But I do agree with "don't move much".
Nitori is easy.
Extending Arm says hi.
Aya is bullshit
Agreed.
Sanae is lollastcard but the rest is bomb.
You should only be bombing her first nonspell (sometimes) and first 2 spells.
Stage 4 is sex.
I can't tell if you're giving it a good or bad light...
Stage 5 is killing me for no reason.
Learn the patterns. It's noticeably easier than Stage 4.
Responses in bold.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 29, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
Aya's fair until you get to Lunatic, then it's complete crap. I still suck at her on Normal or harder.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 29, 2010, 06:48:32 PM
Tried unlocking UFO Hard for stage practice. I couldn't get past Shou. Those nonspells are impossible to read luckshit. Radiant Treasure Gun sucks. Vajra sucks. Her final spell kept clipping me.

I only perfected midboss Nazrin once. The orb spam is complete bullshit.


/r score.dat or TAS methods so I can unlock it myself.

Here. >_< (http://rapidshare.com/files/343038202/scoreth12.dat.html) FYI, my score.dat has extra unlocked for all shot types (and beaten for that matter), Reimu A 1cc'd on all difficulties and all stages open, normal open for all shot types, and Sanae B has hard open and the first three stages of lunatic open. That good enough?

Why doesn't Touhou 10 , 11 , and 12 have the same feel as the previous games?

ZUN moved to a new engine. The major difference is that the bullets all got new hitboxes.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on January 29, 2010, 06:52:13 PM
MoF Hard.
I don't bomb enough.
Aya is kidding me.
I move too much, and MoF is streaming so stage fail.
MoF is not the most stream-heavy game out there. But I do agree with "don't move much".
Nothing to say here.
Nitori is easy.
Extending Arm says hi.
Bomb say hi too.
Aya is bullshit
Agreed.
Yay !
Sanae is lollastcard but the rest is bomb.
You should only be bombing her first nonspell (sometimes) and first 2 spells.
I can "capture" her first nonspell, just not sit at the bottom.
Stage 4 is sex.
I can't tell if you're giving it a good or bad light...
I am giving bombs.
Stage 5 is killing me for no reason.
Learn the patterns. It's noticeably easier than Stage 4.
No reason means : run into a bullet randomly.
I am using naturally ReimuB, she seems to make card very short, I think of Hina bullshit last card that last 5 seconds, and it is enough !
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 29, 2010, 09:05:53 PM
SA stage 5 lunatic 1DNB (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7111)

BAWWWWWW clipdeath on the GOAST wheels.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 29, 2010, 09:18:40 PM
tHRtP vs PHYSICS

tHRtP 13
PHYSICS 0

screw you
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on January 29, 2010, 09:26:20 PM
tHRtP vs PHYSICS

tHRtP 13
PHYSICS 0

screw you
the Yin-Yang Orb is a super bouncy ball
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 29, 2010, 09:44:57 PM
UFO lunatic: FFSUDAIUGHGHJGHKJKLJG.


Okay here's the ZUN timeline:
EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, to an extent SA: a few random and difficult cards here and there (Aya's survival?), but figure out the trick mostly.
UFO: fuck whatever have some random spam with crazy bullet speeds.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on January 30, 2010, 01:35:14 AM
The fuck, why am I chain-dying in IN stage 3 all of a sudden, that shit's easy.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 30, 2010, 01:39:59 AM
Got hit on Hourai Jewel with 12 seconds left. I'm up to 105 attempts to time this thing out. I should have had it under 30.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 30, 2010, 02:10:42 AM
Got hit on Hourai Jewel with 12 seconds left. I'm up to 105 attempts to time this thing out. I should have had it under 30.
If it makes you feel better, it took me 173 tries to beat Kaguya's LW with Magic Team.

Still raging about that, since it took me four with the Scarlet Team, but I was going for all LWs captured with Magics :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 30, 2010, 04:10:32 AM
Got it down to 6 seconds on try #119. The best I've done since then was 14 seconds left, and I'm nearing try 160.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on January 30, 2010, 01:00:43 PM
Failed a 1D timeout of Superhuman at the last second >:(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on January 30, 2010, 04:39:43 PM
Aya just killed me 3 times then Komachi killed me twice.

Who has a list of characters that do not fight

Aya
Komachi
Both(I know Komachi is on this one but Yuka just kills me 3 times instead or Reimu just kicks more ass than usual)


Edit: Just tried out Mystia. Medicine killed me twice though. I remembered her being much easier than that. Still easier than Aya though. This was my first time trying Lunatic with Mystia. Yuka also killed me once, though I had managed to take her to her last life on round one. Made it to Shikieiki.

Another Edit with a different pic: Fuck you Shikieiki. I fucking hate you, go die already, damn it. Beating stage 8 on first try was great though, but damn it Shiki.

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2553/morepofvfail.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on January 30, 2010, 11:35:19 PM
I'd very highly recommend Cirno for PoFV.  Fights Aya and Yuka.  I have less trouble with Aya than with Medicine (though both destroy me) but I can reliably clear Yuka in 1 death, and frequently without dying at all.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Illlumise on January 31, 2010, 04:50:38 PM
Marisa, it's official. You have 10 tries. If you don't get to Stage 5 at least twice, I'll quit using you.

Technically, I know it's Murasa's fault. Somewhat. Does anybody have a good, Normal replay of UFO?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 31, 2010, 05:10:46 PM
PoDD lunatic 2cc with Marisa

Would have been a 1cc if I didn't die FOUR TIMES to Chiyuri thus getting a game-over. She went completely insane! Every boss I shot down, another would take it's place immediately! I just couldn't cope with my resources! Stage 8 took freaking 16 minutes!  >:(
What really aggravates me is that I beat her on the first round after using a continue. >_>
Died twice to Yumemi, but only because I was playing like a retard in the first round.

How is Marisa actually placed, tier wise?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 31, 2010, 05:17:11 PM
How is Marisa actually placed, tier wise?

Her L1 laser obliterates boss summons, which is a good thing, even though I prefer L1s which can hit the sides so I can move around without looking. Hitting the AI in the later stages seems to be a matter of luck, mostly you'll be hoping to trap it between two lasers and having something slam it from a side. All in all, pretty average. Sort of a less extreme Chiyuri, with a much more friendly movement speed.


edit: GODFUCKINDAMNIT I completely forgot how to deal with Reimu's L2/L3 - I know it's just a tap to the side but there was something else I can't remember.

edit#2: AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on January 31, 2010, 06:17:39 PM
Aaaaaand it just happened again.

Jesus fucking Christ Chiyuri.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Tarquinius on January 31, 2010, 09:51:38 PM
I just died on Kokkuri-san's Contract at 1 second left for the third time. At this rate, it seems like I'll never capture it or Boundary of Humans and Youkai, where I've had the same thing happen.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on January 31, 2010, 09:54:20 PM
Played Mass Effect 2 this week, then went to IN and found out I forgot how to deal with everything. Game Over at Keine. Jesus Christ why the hell does she have an easy mode spell card in lunatic by the way?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 31, 2010, 10:37:20 PM
Jesus Christ why the hell does she have an easy mode spell card in lunatic by the way?

*looks at own 2/6 history or so at said card*

So you can feel even more horrible when you fail it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on January 31, 2010, 11:43:03 PM
Marisa, it's official. You have 10 tries. If you don't get to Stage 5 at least twice, I'll quit using you.

Technically, I know it's Murasa's fault. Somewhat. Does anybody have a good, Normal replay of UFO?
I have a replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6372) but "good" doesn't really apply to Stages 5-6. >_>
Still, if you want, watch it and try the UFO chain I use, I lets you get to near-max lives and bombs by the time you reach Ichirin.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on January 31, 2010, 11:57:49 PM
what the hell is happening to me

gameover at the prismrivers

what the hell



edit: I think I should play PCB more than once per month, that could help

edit#2: how the hell do I have 100% on Spring Kyoto Dolls and 0% on Maiden's Bunraku and Chalk-White Russia Dolls



edit#3: so I managed to 1cc PCB lunatic which means I'm back to failing MoF despite reatching Kanako with multiple lives. had to bomb her opener twice (ReimuA - too lazy to remember the stages), two clipdeaths vs. Divining Crop, and more or less lost the will to live at Yamato Torus.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Nine West on February 01, 2010, 07:03:43 AM
Playing Touhou with a semi-responsive Right-directional button. Clipdeaths ahoy.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on February 01, 2010, 09:32:25 AM
Don't play Touhou in the morning (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=71490)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 01, 2010, 02:50:45 PM
*looks at own 2/6 history or so at said card*

So you can feel even more horrible when you fail it.
It's easy compared to the shit you get in hard. Stuff coming at you from left, right and 2 types of waves to dodge from ABOVE? FSDGHKJLHJKGHKAGHKUJL
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on February 01, 2010, 05:25:14 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7153

This isn't a rage moment so much as a 'wait what the' moment.  Someone watch this and tell me how this managed to happen.  I'm kind of curious.

edit:  what the fuck i managed to trigger it again
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Just a GBZero on February 01, 2010, 05:49:06 PM
A red bullet appeared from offscreen going twards you, why I have no clue.

And can someone please tell me why Hollow Giant allways gets rid of multiple lives and bombs.  I went from a 3/3 to 0/1 this last run
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on February 01, 2010, 05:55:44 PM
A red bullet appeared from offscreen going twards you, why I have no clue.

And can someone please tell me why Hollow Giant allways gets rid of multiple lives and bombs.  I went from a 3/3 to 0/1 this last run

You're doing it wrong.  Sweep over Mokou's head moderately after the initial fixed wave (The red one) to redirect her shots upwards, which results in far less bullets on the screen.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Just a GBZero on February 01, 2010, 05:58:27 PM
You're doing it wrong.  Sweep over Mokou's head moderately after the initial fixed wave (The red one) to redirect her shots upwards, which results in far less bullets on the screen.
Thats what I've been doing, and I still fail miserably.  Why is that card so annoyingly hard.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on February 01, 2010, 06:01:56 PM
A red bullet appeared from offscreen going twards you, why I have no clue.

well I knew that much already silly


Quote
And can someone please tell me why Hollow Giant allways gets rid of multiple lives and bombs.  I went from a 3/3 to 0/1 this last run

If you're using the 'circle around Mokou' method, you could always try the Kefit method (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACAYUgYcBs#t=3m35s) instead, which just has you misdirecting the shots to the right.  I have no idea how people do the circling method anyway, I find it makes the card way harder than it needs to be.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Janitor Morgan on February 01, 2010, 06:10:33 PM
Hmm, I should be able to capture everything in Mountain of Faith's easy mode pretty easily...

Divine Festival "Expanded Onbashira" - 15/15
Rice Porridge in Tube "God's Rice Porridge" - 14/15

No problem. The later spells should go just as pla--

Sacrifice Sign "Misayama Hunting Shrine Ritual" - 5/15
Heaven's Stream "Miracle of Otensui" - 2/15
"Mountain of Faith" - 0/15

...why? Why must Kanako be so difficult? Eirin's cards were cake compared to those last two.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Heartbeam on February 01, 2010, 06:31:26 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7153

This isn't a rage moment so much as a 'wait what the' moment.  Someone watch this and tell me how this managed to happen.  I'm kind of curious.

edit:  what the fuck i managed to trigger it again

Strange, the same thing happened while doing a full Easy run with the Netherworld Team.  Started a fourth of the way up the screen and saw it in time to avoid.  The bullet was also red if that counts for anything.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 01, 2010, 07:45:43 PM
Game over on Vajra.

Things I need to work on:

Kogasa's last two cards: Gotten both, but I usually bomb both.
Stage 3: DURRRRRRRRRR
Ichirin's opener: Can't read this worth a damn.
Ichirin's first two cards: First is an autobomb, second I know how to do but manage to screw up every time anyway.
Murasa's second and third noncards: I'm pretty consistent, but I still clip them too often.
Murasa's second card: Usually end up bombing it unless I get lucky.
Murasa's third card: Can't do this worth a damn; I know it's static, but argh.
NOT DYING ON THE FIRST WAVE OF DIPPER CREEPING CLOSE
NOT DYING TWICE ON DIPPER CREEPING CLOSE
Basket lazors: I clip these just about every time
Nazrin's midboss card: I capped it with two power for the first time.  No walls this time.  Usually there are.  Argh.
Shou's first two noncards: Oh what the hell.
Radiant Treasure Gun: lolbomb
Aura of Justice: No, this is easy, why do I keep dying?
Vajra: DURRRRRRRRRRR
Demon of Purification: I just suck at this.
Everything after Cloudy Way in Purple.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on February 01, 2010, 07:48:41 PM
AAAGGHGHSDGGHAHGAHAAHHH PoDD

Died 3 times to Chiyuri, twice to Yumemi.
Used Kana this time. I really like her! Her movement speed allows you to effectively dodge things!  :o
Plus, her charge speed is great and her level 1 is almost as awesome as Reimu's.

How is Kana tier wise?  :V
I want to 1cc with a non "broken" character.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on February 01, 2010, 08:10:41 PM
AAAGGHGHSDGGHAHGAHAAHHH PoDD

Died 3 times to Chiyuri, twice to Yumemi.
Used Kana this time. I really like her! Her movement speed allows you to effectively dodge things!  :o
Plus, her charge speed is great and her level 1 is almost as awesome as Reimu's.

How is Kana tier wise?  :V
I want to 1cc with a non "broken" character. Great survival ablity, but rock bottom tier.
Kana is like, rock bottom tier. Great survival ability, but rock bottom tier.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on February 01, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7153

This isn't a rage moment so much as a 'wait what the' moment.  Someone watch this and tell me how this managed to happen.  I'm kind of curious.

edit:  what the fuck i managed to trigger it again
Strange, the same thing happened while doing a full Easy run with the Netherworld Team.  Started a fourth of the way up the screen and saw it in time to avoid.  The bullet was also red if that counts for anything.
Without even watching the replay I'm going to guess that you encountered the bullet bug where
there are 1-2 stray bullets which are bouncing off the bottom of the screen when they're clearly not supposed to; essentially a "ninja" bullet
.

If you're using Kanananananana, be prepared for 8 min+ victories. I'm serious.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 02, 2010, 02:51:10 AM
MOUNTAIN OF CHOKE

MoF is harder than PoDD, true story.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 02, 2010, 06:20:23 AM
After over an hour of S3 restarts, another game over on Vajra.

This.
Game.
Sucks.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 02, 2010, 06:31:43 AM
After over an hour of S3 restarts, another game over on Vajra.

This.
Game.
Sucks.

PROTIP.

FROM THE MASTERS.

THE ONES WHO CAN BEAT THIS GAME ON LUNATIC WITH LIVES REMAINING.

Bomb Vajra. :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on February 02, 2010, 06:35:45 AM
PROTIP.

FROM THE MASTERS.

THE ONES WHO CAN BEAT THIS GAME ON LUNATIC WITH LIVES REMAINING.

Bomb Vajra. :V
This. For a 1st 1cc, the risk simply isn't worth it, unless you're using ReimuB.

Also: I do recall having a 1cc (or something close to one...?) where I left S3 0/2, and pulled myself to 5 lives by Syou.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 02, 2010, 06:38:54 AM
DO YOU PEOPLE HONESTLY THINK I'M DUMB ENOUGH TO TRY VAJRA IF I HAVE BOMBS LEFT

sheesh give me some credit here people
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on February 02, 2010, 06:42:57 AM
Yes. Actually.

Because I for one think Vajra is pretty easy.

:V


More on hand, I love it how capture rates for certain Spell Cards can range from 1 in 5 to 1 in 15. Or in another case, 2 in 3 to 1 in 10.

The difference? About 10 seconds. No, not even; maybe 6.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: MysTeariousYukari on February 02, 2010, 12:44:01 PM
PCB, Hard, Chen Alice and Sister Prismriver. You wanna know how that goes for me? Look at the thread title. I run out of continues on Prismriver, thats right, every 1 of my *5* continues, gone. Why? Cause I get hit as Spellcards die, or I'm facing Doemen-Seimen or I'm facing Alice or I'm facing Sister Prismriver :V They really don't want me to beat my 1st Touhou shooter on Hell/Hard Mode :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 02, 2010, 12:59:44 PM
Reached Murasa's survival card on Lunatic. Had no lives remaining. Keyboard decides the down key should get stuck. I die.

In this run i even got very close to perfecting Stage 2 but i got hit by a seal at the few seconds of Kogasa's final spell.  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Kinzo the Astro Curious on February 02, 2010, 07:19:52 PM
Godammit Momiji Inubashiri, Why must your normal attack be so much harder than the other bosses?!?

it probably isnt to most people, but it confuses the shit outta me. I always end up running into the bullets myself  >:(

speaking of which, greater fairies kept getting me this time as well, kept killing and running up to collect on previous rounds when the screen clears... shouldnt have kept doing that at the waterfall lol
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 02, 2010, 07:42:37 PM
2 more game overs, 1 on Basket Lazors, one on Shou's second noncard.

This is getting so far past retarded I'm at a loss to describe it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on February 02, 2010, 08:54:19 PM
I give up.

How the hell do you tackle Lunatic Stage 3 UFO.

I just can't do it.  I can reach mid-boss Ichirin using one bomb fairly reliably.  The stage goes downhill from there.  I just tried it about 10 times in a row and failed to reach boss Ichirin on a single try, because thoes bloody waves of fairies with the spread-aimed bullets... they wreck my shit something fierce.  I don't even know where to start.  BOMB BOMB DEATH BOMB BOMB DEATH OH LOOK GAME OVER.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on February 02, 2010, 09:39:08 PM
I give up.

How the hell do you tackle Lunatic Stage 3 UFO.

I just can't do it.  I can reach mid-boss Ichirin using one bomb fairly reliably.  The stage goes downhill from there.  I just tried it about 10 times in a row and failed to reach boss Ichirin on a single try, because thoes bloody waves of fairies with the spread-aimed bullets... they wreck my shit something fierce.  I don't even know where to start.  BOMB BOMB DEATH BOMB BOMB DEATH OH LOOK GAME OVER.

For the end of stage fairies, go in a clockwise circle across the screen, shooting down the big fairies as your coming down.
Stop circling and go slowly down the bottom of the screen after the second big fairy.
It's best not to summon a UFO during this as it blocks your shots.
Visual demonstration. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuoBEDsRyig)

As for me, I just died four times to Rikako, what the hell.
I'm getting too tired for Touhou. Let's play Touhou Labyrinth!  :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 02, 2010, 11:09:24 PM
Game overed on stage 2 of UFO Hard because I clipdeathed everything in it. Stage 1 was perfect.

constant clipdeath + shitty power system + luckshit spells.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Generalguy on February 03, 2010, 01:24:42 AM
My laptop being unable to register 5+ keys at the same time. So 2 deaths with two bombs in stock in UFO Extra because I moved diagonally while focused and shooting.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Janitor Morgan on February 03, 2010, 03:58:14 AM
"Mountain of Faith" - 0/22

Ugh... Maybe playing IN Normal will get me used to squeezing through small gaps like that.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on February 03, 2010, 06:34:49 AM
I just tried EoSD today. And damn, how do some of you even bear playing this game? There are so many broken bullet hitboxes it's not even funny. I had trouble just beating Remilia on Normal with continues. Admittedly, I still have to get used to no visible hitbox on Marisa, but IMO she controls a lot like in PCB, so it's not like I'm starting from scratch. Maybe this is some demented way of teaching me proper bomb management...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 03, 2010, 07:16:30 AM
EoSD today. And damn, how do some of you even bear playing this game? There are so many broken bullet hitboxes it's not even funny.

You're confusing EoSD with MoF.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on February 03, 2010, 07:49:37 AM
You're confusing EoSD with MoF.
I'm inclined to disagree. The only things in MoF that feel significantly broken are the lasers.

Need I go through the list for EoSD?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 03, 2010, 05:32:59 PM
Kana is like, rock bottom tier. Great survival ability, but rock bottom tier.

._. Really? Kana is one of the only characters I can actually beat the game with on Normal. Her Charge Speed and Level 1 Attack are awesome.

=O What's the supposed Tier List on PoDD?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 03, 2010, 07:25:06 PM
GOD
DAMN
IT


Get to Byakuren 2/0.

Walled on her opener, die twice on Cloudy Way.  No bombs.

GODDAMNIT ALL
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 04, 2010, 02:52:04 AM
Just tried another No vertical 1cc on IN Normal. Like the first time I tried it, I game overed on Reisen's final spell. But I made several mistakes, so it should have been possible to make it to final B.

I really do think it's at least possible, but it's just fucking hard. You would need the 800 extend or just not get hit as much earlier on to beat Kaguya, and even then it'd be very tough to clear her with 1 or 2 lives. Seems possible in theory though.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DarkslimeZ on February 04, 2010, 02:52:11 AM
It is really fucking hard trying to beat an Extra Stage without having ever watched any replays or asked for any advice. Curse my everlasting desire to improve myself!

Also, fuck you Nue. You and your red UFOs and your Undefined Darkness can go die in a hole.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 04, 2010, 03:40:35 AM
It is really fucking hard trying to beat an Extra Stage without having ever watched any replays or asked for any advice. Curse my everlasting desire to improve myself!

Also, fuck you Nue. You and your red UFOs and your Undefined Darkness can go die in a hole.

For Red UFOs, I place myself on the side of the screen before the UFOs come out. That misdirects the shining bullets' aim. Once they start moving, head to the bottom-center, wait for a gap in the UFOs, and fly forward until you're in or near shotgunning range. You'll have to do some dodging at that point, since you're basically flying into a cloud of bullets, but it works. Red UFOs is a real hit-or-miss card, I'd say. You basically destroy it without thinking or you die like six times. ):
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DarkslimeZ on February 04, 2010, 04:16:07 AM
I'm posting without having read your post, but seriously, I don't want advice :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on February 04, 2010, 05:23:03 AM
Apparently, I can't do Byakuren's Final Spell Card anymore because apparently I was trying to do it No Vert for so long that it now affects how I parse the bullets.

A perfect Stage 6 run with ReimuB ruined by just that. How stupid.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 04, 2010, 11:49:03 AM
I had to retry PCB Stage 1 FOUR times and only got to perfect Letty in the end FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

A 2DNB Chen and a 5DNB Alice. I cannot feel my hitbox anymore.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 04, 2010, 04:16:47 PM
Timed out the card before Murasa's Survival on Hard right when I was about to capture it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 04, 2010, 04:30:23 PM
Wasn't it supposed to be an accomplishment ? :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 04, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
Maybe if I had captured the thing before.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 04, 2010, 07:37:40 PM
Almost beat MS Extra with no Deaths.

Then I fucked up on the last phase and Game Over'd. Like, seriously fucked up.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 04, 2010, 08:35:10 PM
Tried taking a screenshot of it, but it only ended up as just a black box with nothing else.

Game overed on Shinki's Devil's Recitation on Hard. That would have been a 1cc if I didn't die with 3 bombs on the stage 2 boss after letting the midboss bomb fall off the screen then die with 2 bombs in stock on Alice.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 04, 2010, 08:41:55 PM
so I just spent over an hour restarting the first two and a half stages of UFO

my GOD I hate this game so much
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 04, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
so I just spent over an hour restarting the first two and a half stages of UFO

my GOD I hate this game so much
I've come to accept that I must lose one life or all of my bombs in stage 1.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Silent Harmony on February 04, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
Failed a SA 1cc at ~25% on Hell's Artificial Sun

If it wasn't for a shit-ton of stupid deaths on 3-5 I would've had it.


/cry
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on February 05, 2010, 01:38:09 AM
Did I just run into Kanako while trying to auto-collect?
Twice?
ON TWO DIFFERENT RUNS?

MOTHER
OF
RAGE
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 05, 2010, 02:10:19 AM
27 more point items and I would have 1cc'd PCB Hard. But instead I lose to Resurrection Butterfly.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: jc_foster on February 05, 2010, 02:14:07 AM
PCB Extra. At least 25 restarts. NONE of them get past Chen. Ugh......
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: MysTeariousYukari on February 05, 2010, 03:46:08 AM
I'm fighting Sister Prismriver with Reimu A, I beat their final card and just as they lose, I get killed. Oh and I was on my last life, so that hit sent me to the Continue menu choice >.< Thing is, I had not used a single continue before that point so being sent to the Continue choice really irked me. What would this be called? Death Capture or sumthin?

So in the end...

Quote
AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: orinrin on February 05, 2010, 03:51:40 AM
I spent nearly all of my last life trying to get red UFOs while grazing large portions of bullet walls and I end up dying because I rammed into a fairy.

I'm fighting Sister Prismriver with Reimu A, I beat their final card and just as they lose, I get killed. Oh and I was on my last life, so that hit sent me to the Continue menu choice >.< Thing is, I had not used a single continue before that point so being sent to the Continue choice really irked me. What would this be called? Death Capture or sumthin?
At least it didn't happen right when you think you 1CCed EoSD.  :'(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 05, 2010, 03:58:37 AM
That's nothing. It happened to me as I was about to 1cc SA on Lunatic.

I still haven't bothered to play the game after that.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on February 05, 2010, 03:59:23 AM
What would this be called? Death Capture or sumthin?

You got QED'd. :P
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 05, 2010, 04:00:12 AM
And you just remind me this same thing happened to me on EoSD Extra with ReimuB meaning I still only have MarisA as the only one I've cleared it with.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 05, 2010, 04:38:23 AM
Lord in heaven.

ALMOST. I ALMOST HAD SARIEL BEAT.

Then I die.

There goes my 1cc.

TOUHOU AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 05, 2010, 06:45:04 AM
pfah, 1DNB MoF stage 5, goddamn 「Bright Round Aimed Thingies in Laser Spam Grid」
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 05, 2010, 06:58:19 AM
I FUCKING

GIVE

UP

ON UFO EXTRA.


Nue is a fun boss. There is NO excuse, however, for the amount of bullshit in the stage portion.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 05, 2010, 12:54:22 PM
UFO LUNATIC IS MURDEROUSLY DIFFICULT
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 05, 2010, 01:05:36 PM
I FUCKING

GIVE

UP

ON UFO EXTRA.


Nue is a fun boss. There is NO excuse, however, for the amount of bullshit in the stage portion.
I don't see any bullshit :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on February 05, 2010, 01:32:54 PM
Nue is a fun boss. There is NO excuse, however, for the amount of bullshit in the stage portion.
I think it's supposed to be the other way around.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 05, 2010, 01:37:38 PM
stage part perfected on 2nd attempt (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7200)
hardly anything bullshit. It's easily the most fair extra stage.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 05, 2010, 02:05:43 PM
I think you're talking about IN Extra :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 05, 2010, 02:10:02 PM
Magic Milky Way whateveritiscalled on lunatic is crap

and I hate the way LFO moves. on any difficulty.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 05, 2010, 02:26:13 PM
WHY DO I ALWAYS SCREW UP MOKOU SOMEWHERE AROUND FUJIYAMA VOLCANO

AND WHY DO I ALWAYS FUCK UP THE STREAMING ONCE I GET THERE
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 05, 2010, 05:04:09 PM
What the hell do you mean I died to Yuki and Mai 4 times with bombs in stock every time causing me to game over on Yumeko?

I thought I had it when I perfected everything up to Alice then only died once on her, but then I had to go and completely fail this fight.


Edit: Merlin's opener  >:(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on February 05, 2010, 07:50:15 PM
I can't do an 1cc of any game in every difficulty without being body-slammed by a random fairy on stage 1-2
fuck
I just died in Parsee midboss...WHATTTTTTTTTTTTT ON NORMAL
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 05, 2010, 08:43:11 PM
I...got to Konngara.

On Hard.

Then I died.

But I got there.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 05, 2010, 11:37:56 PM
failed RTG lunatic 1 power, it got finished off by the deathwave
clipped her first nonspell at 5 seconds while attempting a timeout
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: c l e a r on February 06, 2010, 12:03:04 AM
Goddamn it Radiant Treasure, 2 lives lost, rage quit.

Everything was going well until I got screwed by that spell dissolve bullshit right before deep vortex.  Are you kidding me ZUN?  This is genuine fake difficulty bullshit!

okay, so sit rep... what is auto-bomb in a 1cc run...
- Greatest/Radiant Treasure
- Vaijra
- Clipdeath in bullshit purple clouds
- May be Star Maelstrom, getting better at it though.

Dunno about you lot, but Miracle Fruit finally made sense after practicing with Byakuren a bit on that non-spell...

Any others?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 06, 2010, 12:37:37 AM
I don't know why but everything Byakuren does makes me hate ZUN. First there's the 1st spellcard which idea of difficulty is giving you no room to move. And for some reason it has suddenly become completely impossible while other times it is more manageable. Then there is second spell. If you at any time forget what you are doing, there is no way to save it. You are screwed. Then there is third spellcard. That's so fucking cheap because of the rate of fire for the stars. The fourth spellcard... JUST HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DODGE THAT? Things come out of nowhere insanely fast, it is so easy to be walled, there is lasers that move around spastically and those rapid-fire arrowheads serve no purpose but to make things even harder to read.

Finally there is Legendary Flying Saucer. Just what the hell is up with that? At the final waves things are so freaking impossible! This is several times harder than VoWG Lunatic. Is there something i'm missing?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 12:42:51 AM
QFT zengeku

Superhuman isn't that bad and Devil's Recitation is actually fun and not too hard.

The rest is just dumb.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 06, 2010, 01:15:55 AM
Devil's Recitation is actually fun and not too hard.

Your post can't do anything to me but come up with a maniacal laughter. If just i maybe could get to face it with a little more than 2xx power left... I just don't get what's so fun about it. Maybe its because of all the traumatic experiences i have had with it.

Take this instance for example. I was dodging stuff and everything was going fine and then the laser hits me. I think its one of those cards you can only lose because some way to fast object hit you and not because you failed your reading. Even if the card is legitimate and fun... there is still no way i would ever be able to enjoy it because of how horrible Stage 6 is. Seriously! Am i the only one who finds the stage portion disgustingly boring? I hate, hate, haaate that stage. Its so lame. And you have to do well at it because UFO have crappy power system! Yay for that! Which means that i'd basically have to start over if i don't do well enough at the 1st spellcard because if i don't do well i won't have enough power to have a chance at anything beyond that. 

There is only very few things good about UFO imo. Radiant Treasure Gun is the only good spellcard i remember from UFO Lunatic. On Hard mode things are a lot better because they aren't designed for masochists. I truly understand why Kefit wouldn't want anything to do with it because honestly, he ain't really missing out.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 01:18:41 AM
Devil's Recitation is dodging. Nothing more, nothing less.
No criss cross semi static crap, no tewi lasers, no wallshit, no memorization.

The hitboxes are rather friendly as well.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on February 06, 2010, 01:24:11 AM
At first, I thought "Devil's Recitation" was fairly ridiculous as well. Then I learnt that the Spell Card itself actually gave enough room for you to misdirect and not wall yourself in. And then I realized that the bullets bouncing off the walls actually gave you a fair bit of time to notice their trajectories... if you're actively searching for the bullets. This would be one of those rare few Spell Cards where it's best to increase your field of vision as far as you can make it go without losing sight of your hitbox.  Just be fortunate that you're not using ReimuB. At 1.xx Power.

Devil's Recitation is dodging. Nothing more, nothing less.
Everything save for the second* is this. And maybe the last is an exception as well based on how it's actually aimed with a tiny bit of RNG incorporated into it.

*Excluding Non-Spells

(un)Fun Fact: Power and Shot Type dictates 50-90% of the difficulty.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 01:38:07 AM
Everything save for the second* is this. And maybe the last is an exception as well based on how it's actually aimed with a tiny bit of RNG incorporated into it.
Meant dodging without any stupid wall crap.
If you get walled in, it's your damn fault
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 06, 2010, 01:45:22 AM
Devil's Recitation is dodging. Nothing more, nothing less.
No criss cross semi static crap, no tewi lasers, no wallshit, no memorization.

The hitboxes are rather friendly as well.

Wish i didn't have to play through Stage 6 to play it. Its several minutes of unfun gameplay. Its not like you can walk away and do something else in the meantime. I miss spell practice more than ever.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 06, 2010, 02:06:43 AM
The fourth spellcard... JUST HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DODGE THAT? Things come out of nowhere insanely fast, it is so easy to be walled, there is lasers that move around spastically and those rapid-fire arrowheads serve no purpose but to make things even harder to read.

Would you believe it if I said 12 out of 18 of my successful captures were done at one power ? :V

Finally there is Legendary Flying Saucer. Just what the hell is up with that? At the final waves things are so freaking impossible! This is several times harder than VoWG Lunatic. Is there something i'm missing?

When there are walls, look for gaps on the sides. And stay low.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 06, 2010, 02:22:28 AM
Byakuren is my favorite fight in the series. >:| First, Cloudy Nirvana in PURPLE PURPLE WAY is only that way if you stay at the bottom. Second, Magic Butterfly is so easy to remember that I almost never lose to it anymore. Magic Milky Way, while a little cheap, is still down to your dodging. Devil's Recitation is supposed to be misdirected and looks fucking awesome. Superhuman...well, Superhuman's dumb, yeah, but a single bomb with Reimu A will trivialize it. LFO is lots of fun in intense dodging and reading.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 06, 2010, 02:23:04 AM
Well it doesn't matter anymore. That stage is god awful. I hate everything about it! Its not just the core game that have serious flaws, stage 6 is too boring and i have no choice but to try over and over again until i'm capable to handle these spellcards which is gonna be soul crushingly tedious.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 02:23:28 AM
Superhuman is easy.
Purple is not :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 06, 2010, 02:28:32 AM
Byakuren is the BEST fight in the series >:(

*dodge bullets coming from Yuyu and Okuu fans*

P.S. Superhuman is awesome fun.
But I've lost my consistency on it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 06, 2010, 02:41:34 AM
I never reached lunatic Byakuren. And at the current pace it'll be another few months before I do.  :(


Byakuren is the BEST fight in the series >:(

*dodge bullets coming from Yuyu and Okuu fans*
You forgot the Shinki fans. Now you can start dodging.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 06, 2010, 02:47:23 AM
Kaguya here.

Also the only final boss that I really care about wanting to perfect some day. But Lunatic 1cc has to come first. The idea of doing that with Border team though, maybe I'll just 7 lives it for them.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 06, 2010, 03:15:31 AM
I don't know what you guys see in Byakuren. Her music is awesome but her spells reeks of poor design. But that is of course something that in this case cannot be argued for with objectivity. I hate her boss battle. I simply find it cheap and the stage before it is dreadfully boring and i hate to have to repeat it over and over again.

If you enjoy fighting Byakuren then congratulations. I'll just stick to Orin, Satori, Utsuho, Kanako, Yuugi (one spellcard is the reason for this), Marisa, Youmu, Alice and all of my other favorite battles.

This replay though give me a little peace with Byakuren as it shows that i at least managed to win at some of her cards and also one of the reasons i absolutely despise Devil's Recitation.

Getting killed in such a manner...  i find it so frustrating. If someone would see the replay and check if i'm even doing Devil's Recitation properly, i would appreciate it.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7205
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on February 06, 2010, 03:47:43 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7205
Doing it "properly"... There's almost no way to tell. Almost.

I noticed that you linger around the bottom half of the screen. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. But, you did get hit by quite an avoidable laser. General rule: when ever you feel trapped (all "phases" except the "Final") move to the side; which you did do; and charge straight up unfocused; which you didn't do. You have a much greater chance of survival if you do this, though you still have to watch for stray bullets.

Also, for "Cloudy Omen" (or whatever)...
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl33.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=381&u=12803292)
Move your hitbox up to around the red line initially; it really helps. You're allowed to move backwards after dodging the few initial waves; just saying. Who knows, you might be able to have a capture rate like my revised one as shown.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 06, 2010, 07:28:32 AM
You know WHAT SA? Fuck you. Fuck your stage 1, fuck your shitty designed stage that belongs in Shuusou Gyoku, fuck your arbitrary bullshit, and FUCK YOU YAMAME'S OPENER. You are one of the worst designed attacks in the entire series. I know you can be misdirected, but you're still SHIT. SHIT SHIT SHIT.

Honestly, how can so many people hate UFO and love SA? SA is awful all around! My second least favorite shooter, only winning out over SoEW. Stage 1 is the worst stage in the series (I know I said HRtP stage 17 Jigoku route, but an hour and a half trying to perfect SA stage 1 reminded me how horrible this is), stage 2 is gimmicky and boring, stage 3...well, stage 3 rocks, stage 4 is full of clipdeath, stage 5 has overly long BS that isn't near as fun as MoF stage 4's post-Momizi BS, and stage 6 is boring as all hell.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on February 06, 2010, 10:49:53 AM
fuck your shitty designed stage that belongs in Shuusou Gyoku
Whoa...this is the most heavy insult that SA ever received...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Iryan on February 06, 2010, 01:35:47 PM
Nazrin Pendulum on hard mode. Without SanaeB or MarisaA.

I mean... what the hell.


Somebody show me a (non-practice) replay of UFO hard stage 1 with MarisaB where you capture Pendulum, because I am starting to believe a capture is impossible with the little amount of power you are given in the stage.

Edit: Okay, it is possible, but still, daymnnn...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 06, 2010, 02:29:36 PM
You know WHAT SA? Fuck you. Fuck your stage 1, fuck your shitty designed stage that belongs in Shuusou Gyoku, fuck your arbitrary bullshit, and FUCK YOU YAMAME'S OPENER. You are one of the worst designed attacks in the entire series. I know you can be misdirected, but you're still SHIT. SHIT SHIT SHIT.

Honestly, how can so many people hate UFO and love SA? SA is awful all around! My second least favorite shooter, only winning out over SoEW. Stage 1 is the worst stage in the series (I know I said HRtP stage 17 Jigoku route, but an hour and a half trying to perfect SA stage 1 reminded me how horrible this is), stage 2 is gimmicky and boring, stage 3...well, stage 3 rocks, stage 4 is full of clipdeath, stage 5 has overly long BS that isn't near as fun as MoF stage 4's post-Momizi BS, and stage 6 is boring as all hell.

QFT. QFT.

Oh well ... but SA still ranks higher than PCB and PoFV in my list.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 02:44:44 PM
Donut.
Let's brofist.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 06, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
The only thing wrong with SA is Yamame's opener.

I've only perfected stage 1 once, and that was during a 1cc run where I messed up and died on stage 2 causing me to ragequit.

Okay, stage 2 and 6 are boring as well.

And I clipdeath more on UFO than in SA.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on February 06, 2010, 03:35:49 PM
Byakuren is a pretty fun fight. And none of her attacks actually wall, which seems more like good design if you ask me.

For "Devils Recition", remember that everything is aimed.
I guess you can memorize it somewhat?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 06, 2010, 04:13:02 PM
I've spent at least an hour restarting stage 1 and the first time I chained the UFOs correctly AND didn't derp idiotically I made a stupid mistake on nazrin boss and missed the deathbomb as well.

WHAT

THE

FUCK
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zetzumarshen on February 06, 2010, 04:17:11 PM
You know WHAT SA? Fuck you. Fuck your stage 1, fuck your shitty designed stage that belongs in Shuusou Gyoku, fuck your arbitrary bullshit, and FUCK YOU YAMAME'S OPENER. You are one of the worst designed attacks in the entire series. I know you can be misdirected, but you're still SHIT. SHIT SHIT SHIT.

Can we be friends? :)

I had to tone down my scoring techniques just because I have to retry that stage about 50 times or so to get a desirable stage 1 run. I had fairies point-blanking, Yamame going down and rain hell, Kisume wall and laser clip death, and the most annoying of all, the two big fairy section after the intro cut-in (lol score run).

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 06, 2010, 04:52:18 PM
It's failday. I keep derping on stage 1 of any touhou. I quit for today.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 06, 2010, 04:57:23 PM
1DNB Chen. WHAT THE HELL IS WITH HER LAST SPELL ?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helix ⑨ on February 06, 2010, 05:04:26 PM
I made a visual projection of my experiences in UFO

Using PAINT!

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2zehrpe.png)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 06, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
*cough*I think you might want to resize it to 400x400px*cough cough*
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 05:16:54 PM
Be quick, Matsuri is online :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helix ⑨ on February 06, 2010, 05:41:24 PM
Uhm, sure. But why ? :S
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 05:48:05 PM
new rules :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on February 06, 2010, 05:57:34 PM
Am I the only person who likes SA Stage 1?

---

I got bored, so I decided to play SA Extra ("Yes it's terrible, but why not, at least there's no guesswork in how to do the stage.")  Previously, the farthest I've gotten was Danmaku Polygraph, and I had only captured D. Paranoia before.

Cleared the stage with three bombs (two planned at the end, one during Bumper Crop).
Captured Ancestors easily.
Captured D. Paranoia.
Captured Id. (it took a while for me to remember how to do Superego)
Nailed all of the nonspells.  Bombed/died whenever I got walled (Rorschach).  Dodging Genetics was easy; hitting Koishi wasn't.  I couldn't reproduce whatever I saw in Depths replays.
Ran into two small bullets in Sub. Rose.

brb, picking up the pieces of my shattered hopes
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helix ⑨ on February 06, 2010, 06:29:58 PM
new rules :V
Can't find any, gief link ^___^
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Iryan on February 06, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
That's because it is actually old rules that were just not enforced before a couple of days ago...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 06, 2010, 06:40:43 PM
Am I the only person who likes SA Stage 1?

I remember when the SA demo came out Kefit said that SA stage 1 is the best stage ZUN has made in a long time. Madman. >_>

Really, I'm calmer now, but I'll never understand how people can bash UFO yet praise SA, which actually does have multiple walling attacks, and IS a clipdeath-fest.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 06, 2010, 06:54:42 PM
I'll never understand how people can bash UFO yet praise SA, which actually does have multiple walling attacks, and IS a clipdeath-fest.

You have to memorize stages on UFO. That's why. Every other game in the series lets you get away with "soft" memorization, but UFO's lunatic asks you to memorize fairy entry points or DIE, memorize UFO routes or DIE, memorize when and what to chain or not get enough resources to push through Shou/Byakuren (and DIE sometimes as well), memorize memorize memorize, all things that get in the way of actually enjoying the game for most people.

SA has harder danmaku on average, and stage 1 is stupid, but at least SA doesn't kill you outright for forgetting that big fairy 32 which enters from the right at 2.2 inches below the top of the screen at 1:43 during stage 3 must be killed 0.7 seconds after it appears for a blue UFO fragment which will be red 6.3 seconds later at coordinates X:7.0/Y:4.2 where you must grab it to create a red UFO which will cancel a wall upon appearing and which then must be destroyed 5.2 seconds later to cancel all bullets on the screen or else you're completely fucked.

(edit: bad grammar)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Athon on February 06, 2010, 07:42:17 PM
Reach Danmaku Chimera for the first time. Proceed to die when there's just a sliver of the health bar left.
Then proceed to commit suicide in stupid ways. Two times.
I am surprised how I'm capable of throwing a run away with just a stupid mistake,=.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 07:49:39 PM
SA and UFO both suck, but UFO still wins :V
EoSD/PCB/IN fuck yeah
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Infy♫ on February 06, 2010, 09:23:15 PM
I gotta say, BYAKUREN IS A FAT OLD HAG. I hate UFO.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 06, 2010, 10:31:02 PM
As one of those crazy nuts who 1ccs UFO lunatic...you don't have to memorize. >:| Not any more than usual. About the only stage I have a hard route planned for UFOs is stage 5.

/me goes on another spiel about how UFO rocks and you all suck for thinking SA is better
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Serela on February 06, 2010, 10:33:05 PM
SA is annoying but cool and UFO is awesome but way too hard

case settled
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 06, 2010, 10:51:50 PM
If it weren't for Yamame's opener I'd have 1cc'd Lunatic already(or just not dying after depleting Utsuho's lifebar). But as it is, my record on Kisume is getting ridiculous because of how much I die to the thing.


Just got an attempt past stage 1 just to die on the post midboss Parsee waves.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 07, 2010, 12:20:39 AM
Both EoSD and PCB suck for having crappy hitboxes and character speed >=(
I would include IN (hitboxes) as well if it weren't for Spell Practice.

And UFO >>>>>>> the rest :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 07, 2010, 01:10:02 AM
AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH IaMP Triple Pain lunatic
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 07, 2010, 01:47:26 AM
8D My opinion? (Like anyone cares~)

Every Touhou Game is awesome. Even in HRtP.

That's right, I said it.

=3 In fact, I LIKE how they make me AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH. Because I'm a Danmasochist. The game will make me grunt in all manner of frustration, but I just keep coming back~
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: c l e a r on February 07, 2010, 03:29:55 AM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2zehrpe.png)

For the truth.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Azinth on February 07, 2010, 03:34:52 AM
I made a visual projection of my experiences in UFO

Using PAINT!

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2zehrpe.png)

How do you have a big UFO summoned while simultaneously carrying two red tokens?

Your UFO experience sure is unique.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 07, 2010, 04:06:18 AM
I was going to point out how it shows him having 2 UFO pieces after destroying the UFO. I wish I could keep 2 Red UFOs at all times so that i could actually 1cc it on anything higher than Normal.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Illlumise on February 07, 2010, 10:58:22 AM
k, so I'm trying to play SA Normal.

Game Over. On stage 3. WHAT. THE. CRAP.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 07, 2010, 11:40:59 AM
KOGASA.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS ZUN DRINKING WHEN HE MADE HER A STAGE 2 BOSS
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Illlumise on February 07, 2010, 12:11:32 PM
KOGASA.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS ZUN DRINKING WHEN HE MADE HER A STAGE 2 BOSS
Remember, Zun is always drinking.

And now I die on Parsee, too.

brb suicide
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 07, 2010, 12:15:03 PM
THAT DOESN'T JUSTIFY 2 OUT OF 3 AUTOBOMBS AND 1 BORDERLINE POSSIBLE
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helix ⑨ on February 07, 2010, 12:30:38 PM
How do you have a big UFO summoned while simultaneously carrying two red tokens?

Your UFO experience sure is unique.
I was aware of that, but was halfway done and was too lazy to fix. You'll get the general idea.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 07, 2010, 12:33:18 PM
KOGASA.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS ZUN DRINKING WHEN HE MADE HER A STAGE 2 BOSS

I think that goes to Chen as well
if you're going for perfect runs, that is.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 07, 2010, 04:13:21 PM
Capture Yamame's opener for the first time in I don't know how long then proceed to die to her first spellcard.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 07, 2010, 07:17:41 PM
AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH Yukari's 「Infinite Ungrazeable Unblockable Undodgeable Laser Spam」
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 07, 2010, 07:45:25 PM
SA and UFO both suck, but UFO still wins :V

UFO better than SA? What did they put in your food? Donuts maybe?

I think that goes to Chen as well
if you're going for perfect runs, that is.

Bah. Chen's attacks are nothing compared to Parasol Star Memories.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 07, 2010, 07:48:15 PM
If I don't die to Yamame's opener, I just die to her first spell. Seriously, this game is completely fair except for this boss, not counting MarisaC Satori, but who uses MarisaC?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on February 07, 2010, 07:57:14 PM
but who uses MarisaC?
o/
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chen on February 07, 2010, 08:14:39 PM
FFFFFFF.
God damn it Yuka.
GOD DAMN IT WONT YOU DIE ALREADY FFFFFFFF
YOU'RE SPAMMING LEVEL 4 BULLETS
I CAN'T EVEN SEE IT
MY COMPUTER LAGGED
RAEG
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 07, 2010, 08:18:07 PM
If I don't die to Yamame's opener, I just die to her first spell. Seriously, this game is completely fair except for this boss, not counting MarisaC Satori, but who uses MarisaC?

I spent 20+ attempts to capture all her cards but only 5+ for all the other characters. Yeah, i guess there is some balancing issue here. But of course, if you use MarisaC you are asking for it.  :)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 07, 2010, 09:18:53 PM
Died 3 times on Stage 3 and a stupid death on stage 4 during the stage part. I still make it to boss Orin just to clip stuff.

One complete bullshit death on stage 5 when I should have been safe.

If I could quit fucking up Yugi and her stage I'd 1cc this if I didn't mess up on Orin badly.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Orreries on February 08, 2010, 01:09:00 AM
Getting used to Marisa's speed when you're used to lugging Reimu's slow, yukkuri'ing ass around has been like a sage's trial of patience. And just when I'm starting to get the hang of it is the point at which I decide to stop studiously ignoring the fact that my score is pathetic due to my timid, hang-out-at the bottom play style so far. Well. That just won't do, will it? And so it's back to frustration! Be more aggressive! Catch some more of those point tiles high up! Stop flying into bullets! I SAID STOP FLYING INTO BULLETS!!!!!!! >:#  ((You might ask why I fail so hard. At Normal. With games overall, I'm one of those people whose skills stubbornly refuse to improve until I mentally reach a breaking point and snap because I'm tired to hell of losing, and get better. Another factor might be that I aim for perfect game from the get-go. Even if you tell me bombs are there to be used... I don't want to! :x And well, if you say lives are there to be lost, I  won't believe you. That's just silly.))


PS: Yeah. I snuck a peek at UFO spell cards in the wiki once. Kogasa seems like she'll be unpleasantly reminiscent of Kikuri e.e;;;;;;;  Good thing I played Rei'iden.... But my shot probably won't be able to destroy bullets in UFO, will it? X'D  Regardless of the much smaller hitbox I'll have, Tatara Kogasa is seeming rather ominous all of a sudden.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 08, 2010, 01:19:02 AM
Another factor might be that I aim for perfect game from the get-go. Even if you tell me bombs are there to be used... I don't want to! :x And well, if you say lives are there to be lost, I  won't believe you. That's just silly.

Good luck with your aneurysm/heart attack/stress-induced flipout followed by murderous rampage/all of the above!




AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH Suika's 「BURN EVERYTHING」

(Pandemonium looks pretty tame after a bit of practice, though. Fortunately)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Orreries on February 08, 2010, 02:16:54 AM
Hahaha. There's no doubt that most of my stress comes from my irrational perfectionism. But despite that, I'm pretty laid back. Generally the more obscenely retarded the nature of a death, the more I laugh over it. Besides, if I actually do start getting pissed off or feel like I'm in a rut I just Alt+F4 and go read or draw, or get something to eat XD

'Cause yeah, karoshi from playing Touhou to nerve's end and beyond would probably be the most wretched and pitiable cause of death. Ever.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 08, 2010, 02:17:33 AM
Game over on
Ghost Ship's Port
Dipper Creeping Close
Vajra

GODDAMNIT
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 08, 2010, 03:45:56 PM
What the fuck is wrong with EoSD. 3 misses on stage 3, on bullets not even coming close to me? Capturing flower dream vine? What's going on.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 08, 2010, 03:55:47 PM
1DNB Sanae Lunatic. I'm amazed I could pull it off almost effortlessly. BUT WHY THE HELL DOES HER FIRST SPELL HAVE TO BE SO CLIPPY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DracoOmega on February 08, 2010, 04:01:27 PM
Had a great EoSD hard run going. Made it to stage 5 with 6 lives and 2 bombs. I figure that I stand a very good chance of 1ccing it this time (my first on hard for this game)

...and then proceed to die once before making it to the midboss. Then die TWICE on midboss Sakuya's non-spell (by somehow terribly misjudging openings between the kunai). No bombs used on any of these lives. The actual boss went fairly well in comparison. Then in stage 6, I died by RAMMING a nearly stationary bullet after all the enemies before Sakuya were dead. Somehow.

Thus losing 5 lives in just over a stage, with about 1 bomb used between all of them. Needless to say, I did not 1cc that game.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Naut on February 08, 2010, 08:25:57 PM
Died three seconds from unintentionally timing out Buddha's Light "Vajra of Perfect Buddhism" on lunatic, couldn't figure out if I should rage at the fact I was so close to timing it out... Or the fact that I was nowhere close to actually killing her despite lasting so long.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 08, 2010, 11:12:01 PM
50% Reflowering

1 death no bombs, on the first wave of red butterflies.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 09, 2010, 03:08:11 AM
Did I just waste more resources vs. the non-directional lasers than vs. the rest of MarisaA lunatic Patchy? Sure, it was the first test run, but goddamnit it's freakin' non-directional left-to-right-then-right-to-left easy-as-pie lasers

Still managed to make my way to Remilia's last nonspell (and pretty much instaclipped it), which was more than I deserved, anyway, considering I also died with a bomb in stock to Sakuya's second boss nonspell after panicbombing freakin' Jack the Ludo Bile.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 09, 2010, 03:09:41 AM
Got to Yumemi with Kotohime, and no lives remaining (fucked up on Reimu).

Despite her typical "I'm invincible until you die at least once" attitude, I STILL managed to get her down to half a heart, and I was at FULL. I even got an Extend.

Then suddenly I'm engulfed in a storm of death, die, next round starts, I die two minutes in.

So much for almost clearing PoDD Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 09, 2010, 04:01:57 AM
Took a break from SA Lunatic attempts with a PoFV run. Normal though because I want SA to be my first Lunatic 1cc.

I failed a fucking Normal 1cc due to the AI. Aya lasted for over 3 fucking minutes on the first round just to kill me the first time. Komachi killed me twice. And Final boss Reimu lasted over 3 minutes on some of the rounds before killing me.

Apparantly, normal isn't that much easier. I did beat stage 6 first round but barely.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 09, 2010, 05:03:45 AM
can we just pretend UFO doesn't exist
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 09, 2010, 05:13:07 AM
IN Lunatic 1cc failed at Hourai Jewel.

And I was 24 point items away from a life bonus.

brbseppuku
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 09, 2010, 05:40:59 AM
*headdesk*

Decided to ignore hard mode and just continuespam UFO lunatic as far as I could endure it, promptly failed Busy Rod. Headdesk above is not figurative.



second EoSD run today which wasn't aborted before stage 3:
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1901/ffffremilia.png) (http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1901/ffffremilia.png)

One death with bombs in stock to NON DIRECTIONAL LASERS, one panic bomb vs. NON DIRECTIONAL LASERS, clipped Remilia's opener with a bomb in stock (arrived there 2/1), still entered Scarlet Gensokyo 0/2 which should have been enough but I wasted the bombs waaaay too early. A shame.

Either way, this one is pretty much in the bag as soon as I stop derping vs. Patchy's lasers (and Jack the Ludo Bile as well, goddamnit this card is supposed to be easy), and EoSD is tons of fun anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SupahVee1234 on February 09, 2010, 01:45:43 PM
WHAT THE FUCK.
Today is a no-touhou day.

Hard difficulty.

Died on Kogasa's midboss. TWICE.

Then I decided to play IN Lunatic.
Restarted the first stage 4-5 times.
Died on Stage 2 midboss, restarted.
Died on Stage 2 boss, last spellcard. AGDOPhkm

Then I decided to play EOSD Hard.
Stage 1 perfect.
Stage 2 perfect.
Stage 3 per- GJAIOEDHGJ>sjf<ktgdkjtedi?'0tejtekjtepok0 SELAGINELLA WHAT THE FUCK I ALWAYS CAPTURE THAT JGOSDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 09, 2010, 02:07:33 PM
WHY DO I KEEP DERPING ON BULLETS THAT HAVE ONE PIXEL ON SCREEN ABOUT TO GET OUT FUCK
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 09, 2010, 02:47:36 PM
Died twice to Parsee almost game over on Yugi, still make it to stage 5 midboss Orin. I fucking hate these early stages. I'm consistent on the later ones but I fuck these up.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helix ⑨ on February 09, 2010, 04:07:55 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcCm2u-Unlk

(please wait patiently as girls are preparing youtube has processed the video)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 09, 2010, 08:48:03 PM
I don't know what is wrong with me today but apparently i can capture Radiant Treasure Gun a couple of times but consistently failed Aura of Light.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 09, 2010, 08:54:16 PM
SERIOUSLY WHAT

WHAT

HOW THE FUCK DOES YUMEMI GET SEVEN BOSS CARDS IN A ROW LAUNCHED WITH NOT ONE OF THEM BEING FROM MAX CHARGE WHAT THE FUCK

Okay, I'll launch a Boss Card - OH WAIT SHE CANCELED IT

Well, shit. Oh, look, I got enough score to auto-launch one- OH WAIT SHE CANCELED IT

Oh look, I got enough score to cancel hers with another of mine- OH WAIT SHE CANCELED IT

Whew, looks like I survived that one- OH WAIT HERE COMES ANOTHER ONE RIGHT AWAY

Oh, look, I managed to cancel that on- CANCELED

Ah, but I managed to- CANCELED

Wow! I managed to cancel- CANCELED

Phew! I survived all that- OH WAIT HERE'S ANOTHER

GAME OVER
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on February 09, 2010, 09:25:32 PM
Ugh, I'm just useless at Touhou these last couple of days.
I really hope this skill regression goes away soon as this is not funny anymore.

I want to try a no bombs run of SA and do that mentioned UFO no UFO's challenge, but I can't in this state.  :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Krimmydoodle on February 09, 2010, 09:43:12 PM
That's pretty much how I've been feeling for the last month.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Garlyle on February 09, 2010, 10:43:17 PM
I
Hate
EoSD

No really.  I don't know entirely why, but I suck horribly at it.  I made it to midboss Sakuya with three lives left - and proceeded to game over BEFORE her spellcard.  And this is on Normal.  I've Normal 1cc'd every damn game and am working on Hard 1ccs on the majority of them right now, I just needed to get that Normal 1cc to re-open Extra.  EoSD was the first game I 1cc'd Normal on, and I've got a way better grasp of how to handle patterns and stuff... and now I'm doing terrible at it for some reason.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 10, 2010, 03:06:43 AM
Game over at Remilia's last nonspell again.... after dying with three bombs in stock to the non-directional lasers yet again, and dying with three bombs in stock as well to ZA WARUDO of all things - I'm pretty sure I had a perfect record on it. At least one other lossy death elsewhere, Bury in Lake I think. Also the second time in a row I die to the end-of-stage-4 fairies. What the hell.

That makes it three times in two days in which I entered stage 4 with 6 spare lives and still failed, not to mention the about half a dozen ragequits at Cirno. This is not supposed to be this hard.



edit: another run, another failure at the end-of-stage-4-fairies, another death on the second non-directional lasers, followed by two deaths with full bombs at a zero rank Water Elf, literal AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk*

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DracoOmega on February 10, 2010, 03:54:24 AM
I died against an almost stationary bullet that I somehow failed to notice while moving to collect the 1up from midboss Sakuya on hard.

...and in the time it took me to respawn, the 1up had fallen off the bottom of the screen >.<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 10, 2010, 04:41:01 AM
AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: MysTeariousYukari on February 10, 2010, 04:53:32 AM
I beat PCB Stage 1 on hard... with 0 lives and like 1 bomb.... "AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH"
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Generalguy on February 10, 2010, 08:06:20 AM
Failing a No-bombs run of HRtP because I accidentally activated a bomb on stage 17 while I was trying to shoot the orb.
I would have failed it anyway on Sariel, I always screw up on her second phase. I know what to do, but I always get distracted by something and end up forgetting to look out for Sariel's bombs.

T98-Next is awesome though. No noticeable lag, and it doesn't look like crap when playing windowed.
Something else that makes me happy, is that Stage 16 Makai, where I would usually fail my runs before, is at least 100 times easier when playing without any lag.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 10, 2010, 02:12:46 PM
I
Hate
EoSD
Half the game is random wall-you-in spell cards. Max rank on anything beyond stage 4 is HELL.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 10, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
I ALMOST PERFECTED LUNATIC UTSUHO
1DNB
WHERE DID I DIE

TEN MOTHERFUCKING EVIL STARS

HURR DURR


and it was RIGHT AT THE END
1 shot and she was done
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 10, 2010, 03:56:13 PM
EoSFGHGLJGIOHLHLGJGD

Derp on Cirno's second non-card, cba to restart again
Walled in by flower dream vine
Walled in by colorful light chaos dance (bullet blocking my lane)
Walled in by all of Patchouli's non-spells.

FUCK

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Orreries on February 10, 2010, 07:38:11 PM
It's hugely annoying when the trick you were looking for to evading an attack pattern turns out to be blindingly obvious. Like Cirno's first non-sc attack (Pretty much just move around in a figure-eight) -kurokoheaddesk-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: orinrin on February 10, 2010, 09:18:45 PM
Final Spark is a bitch.  Walled in by an AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH laser of doom.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: P♂ zeal on February 10, 2010, 09:24:25 PM
EOSD.
Metal Fatigue bullets
patchouli and remilia
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
why did ZUN make their hitboxes bigger than their sprite?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SupahVee1234 on February 10, 2010, 09:38:35 PM
UFO, hard.
Died 2 times on Stage 1. Restarted twice.
Captured Kogasa's midboss and last spell.
Died thrice on Stage 3. FAGDU>hsnfidogjhbm,.-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on February 10, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Holy crap! I almost had a perfect Byakuren fight! Died once on "Devils Recition" because I still don't have this card down yet.
I guess I'm on the road to recovery!  :V

And this proves my point that Byakuren isn't the hardest final boss in the series.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 10, 2010, 10:10:32 PM
Holy crap! I almost had a perfect Byakuren fight! Died once on "Devils Recition" because I still don't have this card down yet.
I guess I'm on the road to recovery!  :V

And this proves my point that Byakuren isn't the hardest final boss in the series.
which one, then :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on February 10, 2010, 10:20:50 PM
which one, then :V

First round Shikieiki.
Remilia or Kaguya, duo to walls that spawn if your unlucky.
Shinki is also high on my list but only because I can't practice her. :|
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on February 10, 2010, 10:26:20 PM
First round Shikieiki.
Remilia or Kaguya, duo to walls that spawn if your unlucky.
Shinki is also high on my list but only because I can't practice her. :|
I've been saying Kaguya was the hardest final boss since I got my IN 1cc. :V I don't think Remi is really all that hard outside of Meister and Gensokyo and the occasional Vampire Illusion wall.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 10, 2010, 10:36:00 PM
what

what

what

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

Got to Murasa 5/4.  On my last 6 deaths:
1) I bombed a total of three times, never mind FRANTICALLY MASHING THE BUTTON
2) I saw what hit me once
3) I game overed on Greatest Treasure
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 10, 2010, 10:46:51 PM
lol tried a random hard UFO run

died on st2 with bombs
had nothing planned, screwed up like 5 red ufos
still reached byakuren but died on LFO thanks to not caring enough

games should give a solid amount of extends, not depending on your route or whatever the fuck it means

I could probably reach byakuren with 8 lives if i cared enough
unfortunately i dont
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on February 10, 2010, 11:11:15 PM
And this proves my point that Byakuren isn't the hardest final boss in the series.
(Hardest Boss[es] is / are) Remilia or Kaguya, duo to walls that spawn if your unlucky.
Change Shot Types from UFO!ReimuA and see if you have the same impression!

That said, I held down Ctrl too early and "lost" the Life Fragment from Stage 1. At least it's still as trivial as ever.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 10, 2010, 11:50:41 PM
I've done both of them on Hard with 3 mistakes/bombs overall.

For Lunatic though(I don't have Kaguya's stage for practice yet, haven't 1cc'd)

main problems are Remilia's

Stage opener
Eternal Meek(unless safespotted)
opener
Vampire Illusion
final nonspell
Scarlet Meister
Scarlet gensokyo.

For Kaguya

Eirin's opener(maybe, it's trivial on Hard, but don't remember it on Lunatic)

Kaguya's opener
Brilliant Dragon Bullet
Second nonspell(even with misdirecting you still get a lot of crap)
Buddhist Diamond
Hourai Jewel(this can be memorized, but it's easy to mess up)

First and 4th Last Spells can be memorized. Others are pretty easy to mess up.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 11, 2010, 12:30:25 AM
Kaguya? Hardest final boss?

The correct answer is Lunatic Yumemi.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Barrakketh on February 11, 2010, 01:20:24 AM
First round Shikieiki.
I started playing PoFV last week and would say Shikieki period.  While I'm not a good player I could still manage to make it to her with no deaths with a few of the characters and not use any continues with some of the others.  Danmaku Judgement led to many fffffffffffffff moments as I was walled in.  Spells always eventually made things worse as it meant more projectiles to deal with and the spell gauge wasn't building fast enough to continue clearing the walls of death.  I had the hardest time as Youmu because her spells charge so slowly...I'd either have to potentially waste a spell (close call but not certain doom) or not be able to charge it in enough time.

Going from normal to Extra is a rather rough transition, especially from the fact that the snowballs are one hell of a lot faster and numerous.  I decided to take a break and work through an old JRPG in my backlog to quell the rage :V


I find Kaguya to be much easier than Eirin.  Marisa is harder than either of them.  I rarely capture Astronomical Entombing unless I'm playing as the Netherworld team.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 11, 2010, 02:01:35 AM
The hell, how did I die three times to Lunatic China. D:
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 11, 2010, 02:34:01 AM
Tried some MoF Lunatic Stage 4 practice since I didn't feel like trying a full run at the moment.

I kept clipping stuff. What the hell do you mean I can't capture the preAya spam now. Why am I now consistently failing Saruta Cross? I still fail all her other cards.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 11, 2010, 02:57:51 AM
Y'know, sometimes I just wish I didn't know these games even existed. All of them. Every "accomplishment" feels less satisfying than the one before, and takes twice as long, and it's all very unfulfilling since any "successful" run is just "bomb everything that's hard and don't derp on the easy parts" anyway.

 :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 11, 2010, 03:24:27 AM
Lunatic Yumemi is still harder than Sikieiki. Seeing as how she's nearly impossible to actually beat.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 11, 2010, 03:44:35 AM
Tip to self: Don't try to scorerun when you can't even consistently 1cc the game. It'll just result in you game overing on midboss Yugi or worse Yamame with ReimuA. That 4,000+ graze in stage 1 means nothing if I don't even survive long enough when I can just have my score be even better by not trying to scorerun. I was at a little over 7,000 when I game overed.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 11, 2010, 03:21:38 PM
Perfect SA Stage 1 ruined by a death as Yamame's final was clearing.


Oddly enough, the game ragequit for me at that point and crashed. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 11, 2010, 03:39:56 PM
I can't play today worth crap.

I keep dying on MoF Stage 1. If I don't die there I die on stage 2. I kept derping everything on SA as well meaning I only made it to Peta Flare with ReimuA. Messed up even more with ReimuB and game overed on terrifying Hypnotism.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 11, 2010, 04:16:34 PM
SA lunatic attempt
game over on yuugi

BRB TF2
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lopsidation on February 11, 2010, 05:34:36 PM
IN Extra stage portion, 2 graze. Nooooo, so close...
Failed on Keine's "Returning-Bridge Ichijo". Although somehow I only grazed 2 bullets.

I know this is possible... I'm using Sakuya/Remilia, because I don't see how it's even possible with any other team.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 11, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
You're trying to do it without any graze, right? You know that Sakuya/Remilia have the largest grazebox, right? :V

Also, tried unlocking EoSD Lunatic stages for MarisaA practice. I had to use my first continue on Midirection (Sakuya died from my deathwave, seriously), and then somehow had to use another one on her second boss midspell. Used up my last continue on Remilia's last midspell...and then game overed on Scarlet Gensokyo.

ffffffffff
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 11, 2010, 08:55:33 PM
JESUS CHRIST PCB STAGE 4
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 11, 2010, 09:01:07 PM
I can't get most of the items on it, and even with SakuyaB I can't cover the crap fast enough to avoid border breaking and bombspam.

I just tried PCB Lunatic with SakuyaB. 4cc. I fucking suck at this game. I can't time borders worth crap. I can't dodge worth crap. Stage 4 sucks regardless of which shottype I pick. Bosses don't die fast enough. SakuyaB has shitty bombs for anything but scoring, SakuyaA is weak and not enough coverage, Marisa is useless due to low bomb stock, and Reimu is underpowered. First credit ended on midboss Alice's nonspell when I lost 3 bombs because the game didn't register a bomb.

The next credit barely got into stage 5 and Merlin's opener is much more rage inducing than the Hard version.

The next credit ended on Repository.

Then the last one got through.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 11, 2010, 09:30:45 PM
Use marisa A
SPELL C- GET SPELL CARD BONUS!
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Lopsidation on February 12, 2010, 01:11:35 AM
You're trying to do it without any graze, right? You know that Sakuya/Remilia have the largest grazebox, right? :V
Doesn't matter, no dodges are tight enough to make a difference.
Sakuya/Remilia gets an extra bomb when dying with a bomb, which is the only way I can think of to be able to use 4 consecutive bombs after Keine.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 12, 2010, 03:17:10 AM
You know what, fuck SA and its stupid stage 1 and Yamame. Stage 2 too with Parsee's nonspells. And three with fucking lasers everywhere. And four which is just AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH from beginning to end and Satori's nonspells and Terrifying Hypnotism and everything else.

Stages five and six are fair game, and I'm sure I'd like my chances if I arrived at stage five with two lives to spare, but everything that comes before is just so fucking stupid
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Suikama on February 12, 2010, 08:15:55 AM
man Murasa murders me every time on normal.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 12, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
You know what, fuck SA and its stupid stage 1 and Yamame. Stage 2 too with Parsee's nonspells. And three with fucking lasers everywhere. And four which is just AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH from beginning to end and Satori's nonspells and Terrifying Hypnotism and everything else.

Stages five and six are fair game, and I'm sure I'd like my chances if I arrived at stage five with two lives to spare, but everything that comes before is just so fucking stupid
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5930/brofist3536544.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Iryan on February 12, 2010, 02:57:17 PM
So, at last I did reunlock UFO stage 6 hard mode for stage practice with MarisaB. So, why is this in this thread?

Because It took me ~5 times as many tries on that stage as I would have assumed, and because 90% of the tries had me dying on the stage. No, not on
Nue
or at the beginning. On the space invader fairies. *facepalm*

How? Why?
I got nothing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 12, 2010, 05:17:11 PM
So I can finally play EoSD again, only to find out that I royally suck now thanks to my time away from it.

~_~ I keep fucking up the first five minutes of the Extra Stage, too.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Janitor Morgan on February 12, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1797/ufofailure.png) (http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1797/ufofailure.png)

Dang it, Shou, you never gave me that much trouble before.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: COPIRIGHTO on February 12, 2010, 09:57:47 PM
...skip to stage 6 >:( (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7287)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Janitor Morgan on February 12, 2010, 10:48:06 PM
...skip to stage 6 >:( (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=7287)

Game over as the last card was clearing? Ouch...

There is a tip I can give, though: on Kanako's third nonspell, try to stay around the middle of the screen instead of the bottom. You're much less likely to get walled that way, but you'll have to react a bit faster.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helix ⑨ on February 13, 2010, 12:28:39 AM
I'm fucking reaching my limit here....
I just do not understand why I can't clear UFO extra with MarisaA. every single fucking time, the SAME mistakes!

The stage is so fucking hard, I just can't comprehend it, I can constistently capture all of cards untill Undefined Darkness, but when I reach that point I don't have enough resources to finish.

Like just now, I perfect kogasa (FINALLY!!27*ty#rh) actually manage to get good UFO combinations on the part right after that (with the diagonal shit from all sides), and then I reach those fairy groups, first 2 with blues, then 2 with greens, 2 with reds and then waves of 6 at a time. And I manage to die while grabbing my last red, yay! then I die while collecting the life part, and then when I got 2 red ands going for the 3rd IT FREAKING POPS TO BLUE AT THE LAST SECOND. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU-



I'm pulling an allnighter untill I freaking clear this.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 13, 2010, 02:27:32 AM
I'm glad Scarlet Meister killed me because otherwise that would have been a Hard 1cc ruined by my last bomb on my last life not going off on Thousand Needle Mountain. I captured everything after that except for Meister.

Ya, tried a Hard 1cc and I was out of practice. Bombed once on Cirno, bombed midboss Meiling's opener, bombed her spell, bombed boss Meiling's opener, forgot how to do nondirectional lasers, failed almost every Patchy spell like usual.


Edit: Not this crap again. I got her to her last life on the last two lives.

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2947/cirnofail.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 13, 2010, 03:30:31 AM
dfjaskldfjasklfj I WILL CAPTURE SYPHAE HORN HIGH LEVEL.

This is the fourth time in a row that I've gotten hit by this card as it was clearing. I know I'm playing Lunatic but good god.

EDIT: ASDJFADSKLFJDS SIX TIMES NOW
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 13, 2010, 03:34:13 AM
I've never captured that card even on Normal where ReimuB goes against it instead of MarisA. Never got close on the others.

Just put in another PoFV attempt. I sucked at scoring this time arriving at Shiki with just over 42,000,000 on my last life. How the hell did Yuka kill me twice?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: jc_foster on February 13, 2010, 07:26:39 AM
"Charming Siege From All Sides", why do you have to be such a brick wall??

I mean, I know what to do; I just can't actually do it. -.-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 13, 2010, 11:59:25 AM
Did I just have 3 misses on China because of hurf durf one tap too much? Jesus Christ marisa sucks.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on February 13, 2010, 01:19:05 PM
UFO Hard Stage 3...WTF ? It's harder than stage 4 !
Ichirin in just...brutal, unreadable fast laser, and...AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 13, 2010, 06:11:39 PM
If it weren't for Yumemi who is even worse, Shikieiki  would be the most unfair final boss in all of Touhou.

I can deal with the boss attack, I can deal with some of the other stuff. I can't deal with the boss attack and lots of other attacks. 2 hits and you're on your last life, which I wouldn't have an issue with if she didn't send walls at you. So many walls. Don't forget Zun's crappy programming were you don't get the bonus to the bar if you release a charge as you get hit.

Macrododging does nothing to avoid being walled. Micrododging or Macrododging when the boss is out isn't an option because the random shots create overly dense walls.

I've only reduced her Lunatic fight to her last life twice, and those were on the same 1cc attempt.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chen on February 13, 2010, 06:59:55 PM
I wish that you can continue like the old windows touhou games.
The new continue system sucks. Badly. Zun should have gotten rid of it in Touhou 11.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 13, 2010, 07:07:53 PM
You know what, fuck SA and its stupid stage 1 and Yamame. Stage 2 too with Parsee's nonspells. And three with fucking lasers everywhere. And four which is just AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH from beginning to end and Satori's nonspells and Terrifying Hypnotism and everything else.

Stages five and six are fair game, and I'm sure I'd like my chances if I arrived at stage five with two lives to spare, but everything that comes before is just so fucking stupid

*thumbs up*

But wait, Catwalk, Orin's last non-spell, GOAST Wheel, UNR and Peta Flare are not fair.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on February 13, 2010, 09:20:34 PM
UFO lunatic

Went into Murasa 6/2. Beat her 1BND. Bombed her final nonspell because to this very day, I still have no idea how to handle this thing. >_>

Game over on "Complete Clarification".

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED HERE?! D:
I was using MarisaB, but still...

Apparently, I have absolutely no confidence whatsoever at fighting Shou in an actual run.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chen on February 13, 2010, 10:01:34 PM
*snaps fingers*

I think I know why you all hate UFO so much! Because you're all convinced that Sanae B is the best shot type. I just tried a whole bunch of times and I have a harder time getting through stage 3 with Sanae B on hard than I do Reimu A doing the same on lunatic.
Reimu B > Sanae B
Frog nuke sucks.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 13, 2010, 10:11:23 PM
Reimu B < Sanae B
Frog nuke sucks.

Y'mean ReimuB > SanaeB? :V

Also, I have given up on capturing Vampire Illusion or Eternal Meek. :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: c l e a r on February 13, 2010, 11:45:29 PM
man Murasa murders me every time on normal.

I hear that man, failed on her Stage 2 times today, I was too ambitious, I had like 5 lives and 7 bombs going in to Stage 4, and only to die twice due to bullshit.  Dying twice is instant restart for me, as I'm not going to fight Deep Vortex without full power.

UFO lunatic

Went into Murasa 6/2. Beat her 1BND. Bombed her final nonspell because to this very day, I still have no idea how to handle this thing. >_>

Game over on "Complete Clarification".

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED HERE?! D:
I was using MarisaB, but still...

Apparently, I have absolutely no confidence whatsoever at fighting Shou in an actual run.

Hence, why Kefit wants nothing to do with UFO Lunatic.  Bad Power system is bad, etc.
Like I said, dying twice on a boss is game over without a huge bomb investment, which you cannot afford.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SupahVee1234 on February 13, 2010, 11:56:26 PM
shou die in a fire
shou die in a fire
shou die in a fire
shou die in a fire
shou die in a fire
shou die in a fire
shou die in a fire

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2mwguue.png)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Milkyway64 on February 13, 2010, 11:58:43 PM
Hard drive wipe. Lost my games and all my records. FFFUUUUUUUUU-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SupahVee1234 on February 14, 2010, 12:04:32 AM
i hate fucking ufos what is wrong with SA extend system or MOF extend system

what the fuck do ufos have to do with touhou anyway

wait a second, ufos?

what the fuck

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Generalguy on February 14, 2010, 12:13:25 AM
Hard drive wipe. Lost my games and all my records. FFFUUUUUUUUU-
What happened? Virus? Or was the hard drive damaged? I lost a bunch of stuff because my comp would always get infected by Trojan Horses.

I should probably copy my saves on a USB key. I fear that my computer might screw up soon, as I only have 6GB left on my 150GB hard drive, while I should keep at least 15GB of space to make sure everything works properly.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Milkyway64 on February 14, 2010, 02:24:11 AM
What happened? Virus? Or was the hard drive damaged? I lost a bunch of stuff because my comp would always get infected by Trojan Horses.

I should probably copy my saves on a USB key. I fear that my computer might screw up soon, as I only have 6GB left on my 150GB hard drive, while I should keep at least 15GB of space to make sure everything works properly.

Virus. Caused crashes a minute or two after the computer started.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 14, 2010, 02:28:42 AM
I'm strongly considering forgetting that Hourai Elixir Lunatic even exists. That last phase is a load of crap.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: c l e a r on February 14, 2010, 04:02:57 AM
well, unless you are completely spoiled by Border Team's tiny hitbox.  It is truly a test of your hitbox knowledge and going for it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 14, 2010, 04:07:19 AM
I am using the border team to try to capture it.

Just tried Stage 3 again since I'm out of practice on IN and I'm not too worried about the first two.

Failed First Pyramid. Failed the first boss nonspell. Failed Ephemerality like always. Failed the Headquarters Crisis. Failed the next nonspell. Failed Three Treasures like always. Almost failed Pseudo-History.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 14, 2010, 05:53:18 AM
Failed Three Treasures like always.
wut

you're taking it from the bottom of the screen aren't you

if yes, well, don't
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helix ⑨ on February 14, 2010, 12:50:16 PM
Started going for MoF hard 1cc again.
First try, no deaths in stage 1 2 3, then 1 death on momiji (pff! I can take 1 mistake), then  I lose all my lives (5 or so) at freaking Aya >.< Still made it to that Cleaver spellcard from Kanako but I lacked like 3 lives to beat it.

Damn....
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 14, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
Promoting motion to remove Chen and her spam luckshit card "douman-seiman" from existence.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 14, 2010, 05:36:28 PM
I'm not trying to do it on the bottom. I just can't find a good height for it.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sapz on February 14, 2010, 06:53:21 PM
I'm not trying to do it on the bottom. I just can't find a good height for it.
In my experience, you can't really keep at any set height; you need to keep moving up or down depending on where Keine moves to. Just read it and look for the height where the bullets have the largest gaps.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DracoOmega on February 14, 2010, 07:44:01 PM
Why must I always, always die at least once on "Advent of the Divine Grandson"? (Ok, I did capture it once, but I almost always die). It looks simple, but I always do something stupid. >.<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Polaris on February 14, 2010, 11:07:48 PM
STUPID SHIKI
I GOT TO HER WITH THREE EXTRA LIVES
THREE
AND SHE BEAT ME EVERY SINGLE TIME
WHAT KIND OF STUPID AI IS THIS
;______________;
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 14, 2010, 11:35:03 PM
Promoting motion to remove Chen and her spam luckshit card "douman-seiman" from existence.

Seconded.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Barrakketh on February 14, 2010, 11:57:34 PM
STUPID SHIKI
I GOT TO HER WITH THREE EXTRA LIVES
THREE
AND SHE BEAT ME EVERY SINGLE TIME
WHAT KIND OF STUPID AI IS THIS
;______________;
I don't think I've ever beaten her until I had no lives in stock.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 15, 2010, 12:00:17 AM
I've had that crap happen to me 6 times now. 2 of those were with Medicine. Please tell me this was on Lunatic as well.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 15, 2010, 12:07:38 AM
God dammit, denied a Scarlet Gensokyo capture while Remilia was exploding.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chen on February 15, 2010, 01:52:14 AM
DAMN YOU REMILIA
JUST DIE ALREADY YOU STUPID SPOILED BRAT
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Montblanc on February 15, 2010, 04:43:11 AM
Somehow, I lost all my Touhou.

All my score, all my replays, all my recorded endings, all my games. Everything.

Now I have no proof of my Hard 1ccs. Now I have no proof of my Extra conquers. Now I have no record of my hard-earned PC-98 Extra scores.

And all of this somehow managed to happen while I was using my computer, without my noticing, and without any of it going to the recycle bin first. And after performing a scan, with several checkers, I have no virus.

So in a freak incident, all my Touhou somehow erased itself.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DgBarca on February 15, 2010, 09:52:45 AM
even when you need that fucking last red UFO, blue UF.O.E >_<
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on February 15, 2010, 03:36:45 PM
I just had an amazing EoSD Hard run with MarisaB.  I only died on max rank Flower Dream Vine and max rank Water Elf, capping a bunch of max rank cards along the way (with MarisaB, which is fairly impressive).

Then Sakuya and Remilia proceeded to luckwall me into failure, forcing me to bomb almost every attack.
5/2 starting Stage 5 -> 3/1 starting Stage 6 -> 0/2 at Scarlet Gensokyo -> -1/0 with SG at 25% life.

It's not supposed to end like this :(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chen on February 15, 2010, 03:48:48 PM
....
Sakuya just hit me.
WHILE I WAS TRYING TO BOMB.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 15, 2010, 07:53:40 PM
Somehow, I lost all my Touhou.

All my score, all my replays, all my recorded endings, all my games. Everything.

Now I have no proof of my Hard 1ccs. Now I have no proof of my Extra conquers. Now I have no record of my hard-earned PC-98 Extra scores.

And all of this somehow managed to happen while I was using my computer, without my noticing, and without any of it going to the recycle bin first. And after performing a scan, with several checkers, I have no virus.

So in a freak incident, all my Touhou somehow erased itself.

Oh my godddd, I know how you feel. This exact same thing happened to me a year ago.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 16, 2010, 03:21:19 PM
I have no chance of 1ccing MoF Lunatic with how I'm currently playing. Where the hell did my playing skill go?

I'm failing almost everything in practice, even the easy crap. I'm derping into stuff I never derped to before. My sense of bullet hitbox detection is failing me. I'm dying consistently to the first part of VoWG several times. I keep dying to most of Kanako's other spells and nonspells.

I'm failing completely trivial stuff like Autumn Sky and a Maiden's Heart, Broken Charm of Protection, Old Lady Ohgane's Fire, Trauma in the Glimmering Depths, Secretly Inherited Art of Danmaku, Takeminakata Invocation, Yasaka's Divine Wind, and more.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on February 16, 2010, 08:49:33 PM
I'm failing completely trivial stuff like Autumn Sky and a Maiden's Heart, Broken Charm of Protection, Old Lady Ohgane's Fire, Trauma in the Glimmering Depths, Secretly Inherited Art of Danmaku, Takeminakata Invocation, Yasaka's Divine Wind, and more.

None of these are trivial, except Yasaka's Divine Wind. All the rest can and *will* kill you if you take them for granted.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 16, 2010, 09:06:51 PM
Maiden's Heart is trivial...found it much harder on Hard :V
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 16, 2010, 10:07:00 PM
SA Lunatic is so much bullshit
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Arcengal on February 16, 2010, 11:08:57 PM
SA Lunatic stage 1 is so much bullshit

Fixed. :3

Also, never watch a perfect run of something after utterly failing yourself. It is emotionally damaging.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Tarquinius on February 17, 2010, 12:34:50 AM
I've never had many problems with Maiden's Heart. Promise of the Wheat God is much harder.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Reddyne on February 17, 2010, 12:58:04 AM
Argh! How many times do I have to hit the bomb key a single picosecond AFTER the time allotted for deathbombing ends? It's the only way I can start the Sakuya fight with 6 lives and be halfway through the Remilia fight with 1 life and a full set of bombs with EACH of the lives I lost. I couldn't mash the escape key fast enough.

And now SA has spontaneously decided to start crashing immediately after character selection. What da heck, man?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 17, 2010, 01:18:23 AM
None of these are trivial, except Yasaka's Divine Wind. All the rest can and *will* kill you if you take them for granted.
and yet Yasaka's Divine Wind killed me twice on my 1cc

derp
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 17, 2010, 01:23:31 AM
My MoF 1cc had something like three captures and I still reached VoWG 2/4, so :V

Oh and I also bombed all of Nitori's and Aya's nonspells. Woooooo resource management easy modo.

I am not proud of it, mind you.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 17, 2010, 01:54:54 AM
I don't even remember what they were and I watched the replay either yesterday or today.

Here's hoping my eventual 1cc is actually good. It probably won't be because I'll surely derp some easy stuff.

Edit: Tried MoF a few times again. A few Minoriko deaths, a few Hina deaths, and some derping on stage 3. Then I tried SA with ReimuA again and kept messing everything up, so i game overed at Peta Flare again.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DracoOmega on February 17, 2010, 04:03:30 AM
Nooooo.... I barely missed a MoF hard 1cc because I foolishly tried to capture something that I'd never captured before (Source of Rains). Part of me even said to myself "You don't have enough practice trying to do it this way. You're almost certainly going to die if you try"). But, of course, I ignored my better judgment, and then did die. Ok, so I could have also not died on Virtue of a Wind God after that, but it's irritating knowing that I made a choice not a minute earlier that cost the last life I needed to seal the deal. =/
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 17, 2010, 04:31:13 AM
Source of Rains is just a stupid card. I still haven't captured the Hard version, though I've gotten the other 3.

The difficulty is also completely fucked as the difficulty of that card decreases as you go up in difficulty

Lunatic<Hard<Normal<Easy. Seriously try it on Easy for some WTF.


Same thing applies for her final card, though not the same way. Virtue of Wind God Lunatic is obviously hardest, followed by either Virtue of Wind God Hard or Mountain of Faith Easy, followed by the other one, followed by Mountain of Faith Normal.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Nyyl on February 17, 2010, 05:32:02 AM
I get to Remilia using Marisa for the first time, and I have a decent amount of lives. And then, of ALL POSSIBLE TIMES, that stupidawful "touhou thinks you are holding down the right arrow key" bug had to happen. fml
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 17, 2010, 06:11:01 AM
Well that was absolute garbage.

Tried a score run of MS Hard.  Fine until Yuki and Mai, then it was suicide central.  Game over on Shinki's Recitation.  73 million.  I can't score worth CRAP.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 17, 2010, 02:16:07 PM
I was having the same thing happen when I got this computer, but switching to the keyboard from my old one fixed it. Basically, switch the keyboard cause it's likely that thing's fault.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 17, 2010, 02:43:10 PM
how do i stopped autobomb in marisa
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 17, 2010, 07:00:39 PM
Peerless Wind God failed with only a second left on the damn timer.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Shizzo on February 18, 2010, 12:13:03 AM
I just don't know where I should put this, but I'M RAGED WITH RAN

I can beat her easily, but I ALWAYS TIME HER CARD OUT

I time it out everytime I go with any Reimu >_>

Man, I remember I timed it out on my first clear and I was totally amazed, but I keep doing it D:

Any tips? -3-
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Byakuren Hijiri on February 18, 2010, 12:58:37 AM
UFO - hard - Kogasa's last card - WTF?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: TL777 ✌ on February 18, 2010, 01:43:46 AM
 >:( Divining Crop is such a bitch! >:(
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 18, 2010, 02:14:56 AM
Just failed a 0 capture SA Lunatic 1cc at Subterranean Sun due to serious derping.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Silent Harmony on February 18, 2010, 06:51:56 AM
Picked up Touhou for the first time in weeks. Decided to give PoDD Normal a try.

Kana: Game over on Stage 8
Reimu: Game over on Stage 7

*sigh*
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Ghaleon on February 18, 2010, 08:52:26 AM
I such at Sa and MoF.. I can 1cc EoSD and PCB on lunatic, but I struggle to make it past stage 3 on MoF lunatic..And I struggle to get past stage 2 on SA *HARD* wut TF!!!

I dunno how people think MoF is easy. I even managed to not waste power on deaths with bombs, but it's like after 1 death, you're just too gimp and you never really regain your ground..At least ofr me that's the case.

As for IN, I just don't enjoy that one as much for some reason.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on February 18, 2010, 12:51:40 PM
None of these are trivial, except Old Lady Ohgane's Fire. All the rest can and *will* kill you if you take them for granted.
Fixed.
Fire is nearly static.  I've failed Sanae's last spell quite a bit more often due to getting trapped between the walls and the homing bullets >_>
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 18, 2010, 02:06:47 PM
MoF is stupid

play progear
touhou extends
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 18, 2010, 04:06:42 PM
I keep dying on Stage 2 of MoF. If I don't die there I bomb way too much on Hina and can't handle the stage 3 opening parts.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 18, 2010, 06:23:05 PM
I keep dying on Stage 2 of MoF. If I don't die there I bomb way too much on Hina and can't handle the stage 3 opening parts.
So long as you use forward focus and don't drop under power 2 you should be fine.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SupahVee1234 on February 18, 2010, 08:06:26 PM
Fuck I can't capture any of Nitori's spells on Lunatic and I feel like shit bombing each one of them.

Also fucking stage 5 and fucking Sanae. fukf

HOW CAN I EVEN CAPTURE A SINGLE SANAE SPELL CARD
(http://i49.tinypic.com/30uzi8h.jpg)

Seriously, the Touhou games aren't about getting to the boss with 5 power so you can bomb everything, for the love of god I know it's lunatic but at least make the spell cards humanly possible and nerf the damn winbombs. fgfbgn
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 18, 2010, 08:08:50 PM
MoF is stupid

play progear
touhou extends
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: SupahVee1234 on February 18, 2010, 08:13:20 PM
What do you mean with "touhou extends"? Anyway, is progear for mame or something?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 18, 2010, 09:17:42 PM
raeg_magazine.jpg
Oh God I'm laughing so fucking hard
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 18, 2010, 09:39:26 PM
Oh God I'm laughing so fucking hard
Matsuri isn't
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ふねん1 on February 18, 2010, 10:53:05 PM
Just played Touhou for the first time in two weeks, since my computer got infected and it took me a while to reinstall my OS (saved all my Touhou stuff, fortunately). I kinda expected to have gotten worse, but playing VoWG (Hard) made me realize just how bad my composure's become. No worse than 1 death in each of two tries, but I felt really erratic throughout pretty much the whole thing, and I had some trouble focusing on several earlier attacks. I gotta get used to this game again...
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Sen on February 19, 2010, 02:45:13 AM
Suddenly, I can't play Touhou at all today. Couldn't even finish EoSD Stage 3 in practice mode because I would game over on like, Flower Dream Vine or something stupid. I can't even make it to Remilia or past S5 midboss Sakuya anymore.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 19, 2010, 03:00:38 AM
Aya is complete bullshit both in PoFV and MoF.

Quit killing me multiple times in PoFV. I can't consistently capture any of the MoF cards.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DracoOmega on February 19, 2010, 04:57:08 AM
Suddenly, I can't play Touhou at all today. Couldn't even finish EoSD Stage 3 in practice mode because I would game over on like, Flower Dream Vine or something stupid. I can't even make it to Remilia or past S5 midboss Sakuya anymore.

I hear ya. I've been feeling the same way today/yesterday. I mean, when attempting to get a 1cc of MoF hard, I believe I died to Autumn Sky and a Maiden's Heart (and then restarted) three or four times in six attempts, yesterday. ...and then died to Falling Leaves of Madness. >.>  Which is, um, I'm not even sure how to say just how sad that is T.T
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: LHCling on February 19, 2010, 06:34:54 AM
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl41.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=390&u=12803292)

* 2 seconds later...

Esc, Up, Z, Up, Z.

EDIT: Hm, might review the exemplar replay and see how it's done. Oh well, making it to Stage 4 with unexpectantly terrible results is good enough for now.

EDIT 2: Also this
Quote from: #some channel
[15:06]   <Baity>   while we're on it; "rank" systems can go die in a fire
[15:08]   <Naut>   If you said you liked it I would've had to disregard all your opinions as lies and slander
*snip*
[15:14]   <Suikama_>   rank is one of those thingws that sounds good theretically
[15:14]   <Drake>   but is actually shit
[15:14]   <Drake>   "oh hey you're doing pretty good
[15:14]   <Drake>   "LEMME FIX THAT FOR YOU"
[15:15]   <Baity>   ^ basically
[15:16]   <Naut>   sounds like something I would've tried if I didnt know better now
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on February 19, 2010, 07:54:32 AM
I lost count of the times I died in SA stage 5

Why is the second half of the stage easier than the first half?

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Formless God on February 19, 2010, 07:57:32 AM
... Micrododging popcorn danmaku is easier than standing still ? And screw Orin.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: mew77 on February 19, 2010, 08:05:07 AM
the popcorn sequence can be weaved.



and it's the part after the popcorn that gets me.

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 19, 2010, 12:38:01 PM
rank is good until it is PoFV
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Helion on February 19, 2010, 03:48:11 PM
THERE'S RANK IN THE OTHER GAMES AS WELL?

brb uninstalling
Btw the "they're doing well, lemme fix that for you" is the best description i've ever seen.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Jaimers on February 19, 2010, 04:58:55 PM
I'm doing awesome!  :)
So, let's screw everything up!

Lost EVERY SINGLE of my lives on PoDD's decisive match.
Yes, all five.  :X
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 19, 2010, 05:26:04 PM
Three 1DNB runs of MoF stage 3. I hate Hydro Camouflage.  >:(

Also, on a seperate run I was about to capture it then died, and the deathwave finished the card.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 19, 2010, 11:50:03 PM
Nyahahahahahaha! I just died twice to green UFO's. Then once to Undefined Darkness. Then to Nightmare of Heiankyou.

Now, now... i generally think this is a pretty good extra stage and most of it is really well designed. As things would have it though... i'm from Denmark which means that i'm a frickin' Viking and it lies within my instincts to react as i will it.

Thi most people are prudent and intelligent players who would just blame their own bad luck, such intelligence is not available to the barbaric nature of my landspeople. So instead of tolerance and respect, i shall respond in agony and hatred as i journey to Japan this summer, equipped with a 5 foot Battle Axe to kill Zun himself four times as well.

Touhou 13 will never exist. :)

Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 20, 2010, 12:44:06 AM
Undefined Darkness
stream
down
don't
retreat
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 20, 2010, 12:56:36 AM
stream
down
don't
retreat

Yes, i know that :)

Things just get a little too much harder when you have 2xx power, play sitting on a bed with your laptop resting on your legs while your friend is telling jokes. I'm not actually mad really but i just swore that ZUN's life was to be concluded if i didn't clear it. Nothing serious of course.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 20, 2010, 01:23:19 AM
I'm glad Moses's Miracle killed me. Otherwise my perfect run of Stage 5 Lunatic would have been ruined by dying as Night with Overly Bright Guest Stars was clearing.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Bananamatic on February 20, 2010, 01:47:00 AM
Yes, i know that :)

Things just get a little too much harder when you have 2xx power, play sitting on a bed with your laptop resting on your legs while your friend is telling jokes. I'm not actually mad really but i just swore that ZUN's life was to be concluded if i didn't clear it. Nothing serious of course.
Unleash the viking rage at your friend.
then perfect extra
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Ghaleon on February 20, 2010, 02:09:12 AM
I tried some more pc-98 Touhou, I swear. I can play games with outdated graphics fine, but Touhou with those graphics just makes my eyes bleed. I just can't do it. It literally is straining to read fast bullet patterns that way. I OFTEN get killed by relatively simple attacks involving fast moving bullets that I see coming, but am unable to really comprehend the trajectory of. It's hard to explain.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 20, 2010, 06:21:28 PM
Unleash the viking rage at your friend.
then perfect extra

We Vikings don't slaugther our fellow Vikings. And perfecting extra stages is something that won't happen unless it just happens due to random play. Extra bosses are long after all and i don't like to fail at the end just to replay those 10 minutes all over again without failure.

And it would probably be limited to perfecting the boss only... stage portions aren't too interesting after all.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ?q on February 20, 2010, 07:10:26 PM
Nyahahahahahaha! I just died twice to green UFO's. Then once to Undefined Darkness. Then to Nightmare of Heiankyou.

Now, now... i generally think this is a pretty good extra stage and most of it is really well designed.
Until the parts you mentioned.  Except you forgot Rainbow UFOs.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: DracoOmega on February 20, 2010, 08:15:55 PM
Trying to 1cc UFO hard, and I made it to stage 5 with 6 lives. Quite a bit more than I ever have managed to do so before. And then proceed to play inconceivably poorly. I died once before the midboss. Then TWICE to Ultimate Treasure. Then once almost immediately after the midboss. Then once to Radiant Treasure Gun, then twice to the following non-spell. During this entire period, I think I bombed ONCE, if that. Gah.... T.T (was actually visibly fuming after this, which is unusual for me)
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 20, 2010, 08:22:43 PM
Why am I dying to Falling Leaves of Madness and Minoriko's first 2 attacks? I'm actually somewhat decent at the near instant lasers card now.

I've only gotten past stage one twice today, one just to die as Exiled Doll was clearing and the other cause I got hit on Broken Charm of Protection.


Also, I wish stage 4 didn't exist. Or that it had a fairer boss than Aya. Her opener is usually fine but sometimes she moves wrong and it's an autobomb. Saruta Cross is fine if I enter Aya with full power, which wouldn't be likely since if I need to bomb, I'd get the power back after. You can't consistently safespot Storm Day sadly, so that's 1 or 2 bombs, which you don't get the full power back on. The nonspell after is usually an autobomb. Peerless Wind God is one or 2 bombs. Terukuni Throughout the World requires 2 bombs minimum for me.

Aya's bullshit spellcards are the reason I have almost no chance of pulling a 1LC. Ya, I could probably die in stage 1 or 2 and still 1cc but that just looks bad. If it weren't for her unfairness, it would just be a matter of not messing up the other stages. I have done the first 3 no deaths in previous attempts. I have done 1DNB runs of stage 5, and stage 6 could have been done ND if I wasn't trying to capture VoWG. It'd just be a matter of not fucking it up. But no, Aya has to exist who is BS in every game she's in except SA where she's on your side(not counting fighters, I haven't played those).
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: ebarrett on February 20, 2010, 08:28:56 PM
I'd get the power back after. You can't consistently safespot Storm Day sadly, so that's 1 or 2 bombs, which you don't get the full power back on. The nonspell after is usually an autobomb. Peerless Wind God is one or 2 bombs. Terukuni Throughout the World requires 2 bombs minimum for me.
Stop using homing Reimu. Now. Also stop safespotting stuff, you worry about "looking bad" and you want safespots?

Aya's bullshit spellcards are the reason I have almost no chance of pulling a 1LC. Ya, I could probably die in stage 1 or 2 and still 1cc but that just looks bad.
You obviously mean a 1cc. Either that or you're nuts. Either way: bomb everything and win first, worry about "pretty" runs later.



Wasn't this thread supposed to have been locked a while ago?
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 20, 2010, 08:31:09 PM
I use ReimuB. I just completely suck at the card and it's the only one on MoF Lunatic I have yet to capture(Terukuni). Storm Day is only 1 capture out of over 70 tries.

Yes, I know to 1cc first and come back later. I just have how to 1LC planned out pretty much and Aya's the only issue outside of consistency.


Edit: Major derping again. Game overed on VoWG. I'll get this 1cc today.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Zengeku on February 20, 2010, 10:15:28 PM
Until the parts you mentioned.  Except you forgot Rainbow UFOs.

What's with that spell? That have always been incredibly easy to do for me. In the run that made me want to give ZUN what we call a "roephel" i captured it at 1xx power no-problem.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on February 20, 2010, 11:32:54 PM
Died 3 times to Virtue of Wind God again. One of them with 4 bombs in stock. Why am I derping on this thing now?

I could consistently do it with 0-2 deaths(with bombs) before I tried 1ccing.

At least my score is getting better every run at the moment. I'm now just a bit over 369,000,000 but I should have had this thing already.
Title: Re: Touhou AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH thread #5
Post by: theshirn on February 21, 2010, 12:19:34 AM
What is with you people?