Author Topic: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update  (Read 43650 times)

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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #90 on: February 16, 2011, 02:26:29 AM »
*current wearing silly hat*

ZUN has woken up and realized how far it his franhcise has evolved without him. It makes sense; last I checked he works for a game developing company  and makes games in his free time between drinks, he probably doesn't have much time to keep a pulse on his creation/monster.

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Or he might be afraid that by having Touhou fangames appear on major platforms such as the Apple Store and XBLA he'll somehow lose control of his rights. I dunno, it is hard to judge the motivation here.

This is a valid point, but I think he's only considering the doujin makers in his home country when he made this rule. Leaving this point aside, there's a possible misundering here. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but has our Kannushi even acknowledged his western fans? It's possible he hasn't even considered his western market when making these rules. Maybe he's not against westerners making works using his franchise and using their main channels of distribution; maybe he hasn't even thought about us or considered the possibility of us creating anything of worth.

One of the things that makes touhou great is the artistic freedom, ZUN has created a framework for all that we love. I'm concerned these rules might break what makes touhou great.
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #91 on: February 16, 2011, 05:47:07 AM »
This isn't going to change anything for anyone, not even the big commercial entities. ZUN has complained about this kind of thing more than once before but he has yet to take any action. All he's doing is voicing his tacit disapproval. People may sit up and take notice, but in the end if they decide to ignore him and proceed with whatever they were originally planning nothing much is going to happen.

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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #92 on: February 16, 2011, 07:25:05 AM »
I consider it a separate game series
So why are they numbered in order with everything else, despite the unusual system? If they really were a completely different series, explain Suika showing up at all in StB, Double Spoiler and SA.
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #93 on: February 16, 2011, 01:56:35 PM »
So why are they numbered in order with everything else, despite the unusual system? If they really were a completely different series, explain Suika showing up at all in StB, Double Spoiler and SA.
Again this is MY personal opinion.  I think there's a difference between a fully ZUN made game and a game made by Tasofro with ZUN providing creative input.  I NEVER said they weren't part of the main series, I never made any "canon" arguments, just that ZUN didn't make them.  Why are you making such a big deal about this?  Does it really matter?


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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2011, 12:20:38 AM »
That's what I assumed you meant by "separate series", not related to the main story/canon at all.

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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2011, 03:09:10 AM »
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Danmaku_Yuugi_Flowers

This above and... http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Yokai_Subtype_%283.5e_Creature_Subtype%29 ... Oriental adventures. I need to take a quick look into this...

I can see where this is going still would we be interesting to see a campaign in Gensokyou setting, If Zun is ok with this ofc....


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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #97 on: February 18, 2011, 01:35:44 AM »
I heard from someone that ANIMATE tried to take credit for Touhou, maybe that's the reason why he announced this?

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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #98 on: February 18, 2011, 01:44:13 AM »
Update

So it seems he really is just fending of commercialism and greedy people drooling on his work.

I heard from someone that ANIMATE tried to take credit for Touhou, maybe that's the reason why he announced this?

The bastards! If this is true, then no wonder ZUN decided to get a move on.


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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #99 on: February 20, 2011, 08:34:34 AM »
So, if the topic of "the updates of ZUN's guidelines" is still alive, I've typed up an as close as possible translation of the blog post on the Random Translations section.
For topics like extreme content and suggestive contents, please also reference the previous guideline that I also translated in the thread.

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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #100 on: February 21, 2011, 12:46:13 AM »
"I heard from someone that ANIMATE tried to take credit for Touhou, maybe that's the reason why he announced this?"

The bastards! If this is true, then no wonder ZUN decided to get a move on.

From what I know, ANIMATE announced this crossover as a "Collaboration".
The fans thought this meant that ZUN was officially involved in making Touhou as an animation, a premise that ZUN stated in his past that he does not wish to be involved.
You can imagine a great surge of influx ZUN was prodded by enraged fans, asking, "Did you collaborate in an anime project recently?"

I'm guessing ZUN is a bit bitter about it.

Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #101 on: February 21, 2011, 12:48:45 AM »
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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #102 on: February 21, 2011, 03:33:28 AM »
Call me strange but I honestly think Zun mite be afraid of being too famous, maybe he doesn?t want to be internationally known. Or perhaps he is honestly a little disturbed by some of the stuff coming out, the Marisa B bug comics are horrible to give an example.

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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #103 on: February 21, 2011, 03:37:20 AM »
Call me strange but I honestly think Zun mite be afraid of being too famous, maybe he doesn?t want to be internationally known. Or perhaps he is honestly a little disturbed by some of the stuff coming out, the Marisa B bug comics are horrible to give an example.

I dont think its because he's afraid of being popular. As someone else said, Hell, two posts or so back, Someone said they were making an anime collab with the touhou project, which is implying ZUN has his hand in it, which he doesnt. I think this is one of those decisions where your only trying to aim at one group, but you say stupid shit and seem like a dick. Also, I'm pretty damned sure ZUN himself knows that Touhou's popularity is 70% fandom. How many people get introduced to mario via a fanfic/other fan work? Maybe 1%. Introduced to touhou via fanfic/PV or something else? Chances are higher then 50%.

Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #104 on: February 21, 2011, 03:54:39 AM »
Call me strange but I honestly think Zun mite be afraid of being too famous
All the guy wants to do is start his own bar :V

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Re: Dungeons & Dragons: ZUN Edition - 2011 Update
« Reply #105 on: February 21, 2011, 04:48:27 AM »
Like the Mana Bar maybe, but for Touhou and other like games.  :3