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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #990 on: August 18, 2014, 08:52:47 AM »
I am in serious need of help with E-2!  :V

What's giving you trouble?

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #991 on: August 19, 2014, 02:13:03 AM »
E-4 report video is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-vGFLq7JCk

From my personal experience, the south route is the easier route though going north or south is pretty much RNG. To even have a chance of going south, you'll need either Akitsu Maru in your main fleet or 4 DD in your escort fleet. Having a fast CVL in your main fleet is supposed to increase your chances of going south. 4 CV, 2 BB should really only be used if you don't have anything else available. Use sanshiki especially on your escort CA/CAVs. Support fleets should not be needed but if you have excess resources and you don't feel confident about your CA/CAVs getting the final kill, it doesn't hurt to use boss support though they may end up being useless.

Thanks for the advice. I've stuck Akitsu Maru in my first fleet's flagship position and packed her with radars. Going pretty well so far, I think I go south about 8/10 times, and since I'm still TTK level 97, the sub node isn't too horrible.

That aside, Akitsu Maru seems to be very good at calling clones of herself. Out of the 3 times I've hit the boss node, she dropped twice. More Daihatsus are always handy, I guess.

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #992 on: August 19, 2014, 06:30:04 AM »
Just cleared E-5. Report video will be up tomorrow night but I'll give my thoughts while they're most fresh.

So, 4 CV, 2 BB escorted by 1CL, 3 DD, 2 CA/CAV is the composition I used.  North subs or south subs seem pretty much a flip of a coin. The sub nodes themselves do not appear to be that big of a threat. They're sometimes line abreast or echelon formation. The most they've done in line abreast is knock someone to orange. Echelon however is somewhat threatening but even if they one-shot someone to red, it's not the worst thing that could happen. You won't use up too much resources since it's the first node and only the escort fleet will even have any damage. It can be annoying if it was the south sub node however since the south route is much easier. ASW can be useful since even 1 or 2 less torpedos before the end means 1 or 2 less roll of the dice.

The difference between the north south and the south route is that the north route will have 1-2 night battles which are very annoying. The south route only has 2 air battle nodes which I've always considered harmless.

The boss itself is simple to deal with. For those with 104 or less HQ level, your air power should be about 360 or maybe even less which is enough to gain superiority even on the final kill. LoS does not appear to be as important as my DDs were equipped with double attack and ASW instead of radars this time. Cutins could also work since the boss is a carrier and not an island. With your escort fleet fully equipped for night battle, killing the boss is no problem. Support fleet should not be needed even for the final kill. Oh, and the change for the final kill is 1 of 2 CVLs becomes wo.

For HQ levels 105 or plus, you can give up on trying to get air superiority on the final kill. You'll need to reach the boss with over 411 air power. You'll also need 274 to be equal to their air power which is more than what was required to have air superiority before the final kill which was 228 so depending on your equipment, you might need more fighters. There's also 2 wos instead of 1 compared to lower level HQ. Since I'm only HQ 101, there's not much advice I can give but boss support might help.

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #993 on: August 19, 2014, 07:51:16 AM »

 
This was the last thing I was expecting when I went back to E-3 after spending an hour grinding each girl in my combined fleet at 1-1, three times each.
 
E-3 terrified me at first but it's going very smoothly on my end.  8 sorties in and 6 boss kills.  One time I had to retreat at the preboss node and another time I got J-noded.  I swapped some equipment around and am hoping that'll prevent me from getting J-noded again (this was before my last two kills).  I'm feeling really good about my chances in this event.  I even have quite a few good ships left over for E-6.

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #994 on: August 20, 2014, 06:05:19 AM »

Red Frost

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #995 on: August 20, 2014, 08:30:12 AM »
So yeah, don't accidentally go to E-4 with a sub in your 2nd fleet.  You will get dead ended on G and have to resparkle half your fleet.
... it was going so well, too. ;-;

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #996 on: August 20, 2014, 08:44:09 AM »
So yeah, don't accidentally go to E-4 with a sub in your 2nd fleet.  You will get dead ended on G and have to resparkle half your fleet.
... it was going so well, too. ;-;

Who said anything about having to sparkle? Hardcore mode FTW!

But seriously, I've been doing okay without sparkling. Just 3 more kills.

Or wait.....I guess your TTK level is higher?

Red Frost

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #997 on: August 20, 2014, 09:27:06 AM »
Who said anything about having to sparkle? Hardcore mode FTW!

But seriously, I've been doing okay without sparkling. Just 3 more kills.

Or wait.....I guess your TTK level is higher?

Lvl 101, but I've mostly been doing it to avoid fatigue.  It probably takes about the same amount of time to sparkle them as it does to sit around and let them rest, but sparkles come with benefits.  I could also use the evasion boost if I get sub-noded.

Edit: Just got E-noded.  There's only an LoS check at D and F and I made those last time, and my main fleet is Akitsumaru, 1BB, 1CVL, 3CVs.  I'm reeeeeally starting to hate this map and it's mostly because it's takes so long between each sortie.  If it really is 10 kills, I've got 7 to go.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 09:42:10 AM by Red Frost »

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #998 on: August 20, 2014, 01:46:26 PM »
Sorry for not reporting in, I've been trying to write up material for the next thread since this one is on the verge of reaching 1000 posts. So I haven't had time to put together any articles till now. But now that I have I'm going to go ahead and report what's happen to date....



E-4 Report

After facing the hell that was E-3, E-4 turned out to be a BIG BREATHER compared to it! Mainly thanks to the less LOS requirements and easier chances to reach Midway Hime to battle her. Using a fleet of 2 FBB, CA, and 3 CV for the Carrier fleet and a CL, 2 CAVs, and 3 DDs for the escort team. I rarely got sent to the gutter nodes but on a few occasions and bauxite loss was much more manageable (about 300 per round roughly.)

So being sent home was rare and when it came to battling the Midway Hime she was a cakewalk thanks to the Type 3 shells which are a MUST against her.

Of course she has a final form in which she becomes more dangerous, but it's hardly noticeable. thus she remained an easy kill.

My prizes I got from this:


Akitsumaru


Maikaze


And of course Tokitsukaze



E-5 Report

For E-5 I used the same exact set up. Which actually helped me on E-4 and it worked on the most part. The only real issues that surfaced from this place was the night battles along the middle and north route (ESPECIALLY the NORTH ROUTE)

The CV hime herself seem to pose a little thread during most of the early parts of the match, however once she was on her last leg, she became harder to take down so I simply resorted to a support to cripple her defenses. Which then made the final blow easy! I didn't earn anything notable from this place, but I did of course score...


Unryuu

While her stats are not the best, the advantage point I see to Unryuu is she is an economically efficient Carrier. She cost less than any other CV in terms of fuel and ammo so while you may not do nearly as much damage as other carriers, you will be saving fuel and ammo in the long run, she also comes with awesome planes upon upgrade.... and also she's has very lewd damage art. >_<

With that Operation MI is over! Everyone can go home and rest now!

...



I guess not...


E-6: Extra Mission - Counter Attack on Operation AL / MI

Just when you think it's all over, one more surprise occurs, the abyss decdied to launch a counter attack in retaliation to what happen in AL and MI while you're fleets were out in battle! As a result you now must engage the enemy fleet that's invading your HQ! To top it all off...

You can only use fleet members that DO NOT HAVE THE AL or MI TAG FOR THIS BATTLE
So it's best to save what you have for the last battle if you haven't exhausted your supplies of Kanmusus back sometime ago in the other campaigns.



This mission is not for the sane, nor is it easy to do, you will be tested to your limits with this map. And I'm already feeling quite tense from what I witnessed of this map.


Summary of E-6

If there's anything I learned about this map, it's pure luck that's going to be the deciding factor wether or not you win it. This is especially true if you do not have YAmato class ships in your team.

There are two routes you can take to reach the boss nodes, both with thier own sets of dangers...

The north route requires 2 CVLs which will garuntee you a route to the boss node under the condition you... meet the insanly high LOS requirement. From my aanalysis if you have 3 Saiuns and 3 Type 0 Observation planes, you can reach the boss node with an LOS of 364. which is by no means easy to get since you need to have crafted said items and have a batch of highly trained Kanmusu. (Around the 70s at earliest)

The north route has a standard fleet, a sub fleet (best to line ahead and ignore it) and a CV Hime Fleet....

The CV hime is the node that will most likley wreck you since her planes can do high damage and have great accuracy. If your CVLs take a hit, you'll most likely get sent back home. But if you make it past her, then you still have the boss...

The South route invovled having CVs in your team and you have a random chance of going in several directions once you enter it. It could take you to gutter nodes or even to the CV hime but you will face two major roadblocks...

Two night battle nodes... both with enemies fleets fully capable of using cut-ins and double attacks, Bring Star shells and search lights, you will be needing them if you use this route. And above all else... pray... if you make it through both night battles, then you have a chance to reach the boss node... which then you fight against....

The Symboitic Battleship Hime...

Once again the familair elite abyssal ship returns again as the final boss and like always... BBhime hits like a tank and is tough as one too... The only way you can ensure you can defeat her invovles being able to bring a CTL in your fleet. So Kiso, Kitakami or Ooi will be sufficenet for this case. The rest rides on hoping they don't wreck your CTL before they have a chance to fight back in night battle.

If you CTL hits the hime, she's almost garunteed to be heavily damaged or sunk. Beware though for the final battle with her invovles her bringing her own clone (making the final kill INSANELY HARD)

Best of luck to anyone who dare tries this... and your prize if you succeed...


Isokaze

And yes, I want Isokaze... so I'm gunning to beat E-6 and I'm doing nightly streams, and I'm losing my sanity in the process....



Also heads up for you Teitokus, the event ends August 29th! Be sure to get what you can completed before the event ends!

There will also be an update for that period coming as well...

A CVL will be getting a Kai 2 upgrade. Who? No hints have been given yet.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 01:53:12 PM by Totaku »
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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #999 on: August 20, 2014, 03:48:23 PM »
> The boss bar is completely depleted however I failed to kill her, so I do another run.
> Make it all the way there within acceptable amounts of damage.
> Kill every enemy accept the boss.

Just... I can't. Please tell me the next event won't be as troll worthy. I can't handle E-1 anymore. ;-;

Also I'm completely jealous at all of these Akitsu Maru, Taigei, and Unryuu that seem to be flying around. ;-;

Raging aside, I figure that the CVL will likely be either Hiyou and Junyou considering what happened with Ryuujou. We'll see though.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 03:51:01 PM by Kasu »

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #1000 on: August 20, 2014, 05:22:32 PM »
E-4 completed despite the compass refusing to let me into the south route.

Now, with 4.5K fuel and 40 buckets remaining.......will I make it through E-5? Only time will tell.

And still no rare drops that I don't already have. *pouts*

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Re: Kancolle
« Reply #1001 on: August 20, 2014, 07:04:23 PM »
> The boss bar is completely depleted however I failed to kill her, so I do another run.
> Make it all the way there within acceptable amounts of damage.
> Kill every enemy accept the boss.

Just... I can't. Please tell me the next event won't be as troll worthy. I can't handle E-1 anymore. ;-;

Also I'm completely jealous at all of these Akitsu Maru, Taigei, and Unryuu that seem to be flying around. ;-;

Raging aside, I figure that the CVL will likely be either Hiyou and Junyou considering what happened with Ryuujou. We'll see though.

I know this may sound like a stretch to ask but have you considered using a support fleet if it's really that hard? Perhaps it might be the quickest way to put the boss out of it's misery so you can get Harusame. I would be a shame to not be able to get her after all the work you put into this. : <

Also I have another thread ready to post in case this one is locked since it's over it's post limit.
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