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Title: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 21, 2010, 10:46:35 PM
Asking because I'm curious.
If you put SoEW down, please put in an honorable mention.

Title - Wondrous Romance ~ Mystic Square (MS) HM A Dream that is More Scarlet than Red (EoSD)
St. 1 - A Soul As Red as a Ground Cherry (EoSD) HM A God that Loves People ~ Romantic Fall (MoF)
Boss 1 - Decoration Battle (LLS) HM Because Princess Inada is Scolding Me (MoF)
St. 2 - The Road of the Apotropaic God ~ Dark Road (MoF)
Boss 2 - Power of Darkness (SoEW) HM The Dark Side of Fate (MoF)
St. 3 - Romantic Children (MS)
Boss 3 - A Flower-Studded Sake Dish on Mt. Ooe (SA) HM Bet on Death (SoEW)
St. 4 - Maple Wise (MS)
Boss 4 - Forbidden Magic (MS) (surprisingly, this was hard to pick)
St. 5 - The Maid and Pocket Watch of Blood (EoSD)
Boss 5 - Corpse Voyage ~ Be of Good Cheer! (SA)
St. 6 - End of the World ~ World's End (MS)
Boss 6 - Faint Dream ~ Inanimate Dream (LLS)
St. X - Charming Domination ~ Who Dun It? (PCB) HM Charming Domination (PCB) and The Inevitable Forbidden Game (LLS)
Boss X - The Aggressive Girl's Visionary Dream (SoEW) HM U.N. Owen was Her? (EoSD) and Illusion of a Maid ~ Icemilk Magic (LLS)

Phantasmagoria - Ghostly Band ~ Phantom Ensemble (PoFV), Strawberry Crisis!! (PoDD)
Fighting - Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When? (IaMP), Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish (SWR)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 21, 2010, 10:57:47 PM
I'd thought about making this topic for quite a while now.  Also, I have to kill you for about half of your list, u?.  Especially Maple Wise.

Title: MS
S1: UFO
S1B: MoF
S2: MS/EoSD
S2B: MS (Spiritual Heaven is garbage)
S3: EoSD
S3B: SA
S4: MoF, DHM to PCB
S4B: Love.  Colored.  Master.  Spark.
S5: IN
S5B: SA, DHM to MS
S6: SA, but they're all pretty good
S6B: UFO, Cosmic Mind is garbage :V :V :V :V :V
Ending: UFO
Credits: PCB, ugh
Extra: PCB, DHM to IN, SoEW, UFO
ExtraB: PCB/SoEW
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Bananamatic on March 21, 2010, 11:27:26 PM
double spoiler

OH WAIT THAT DOESN'T COUNT AS MUSIC
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 21, 2010, 11:28:56 PM
Also, I have to kill you for about half of your list, u?.  Especially Maple Wise.
Honest, I didn't mean for it to come out as bashing Mystic Square and the first two stages of MoF... even though I've been saying that I hate them both for at least a year now :V

On the other hand, your list seems completely opposite mine.  If nothing else I applaud your choice of bashing Love Colored Master Spark.

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double spoiler

OH WAIT THAT DOESN'T COUNT AS MUSIC
play more than stages one and two lol
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Helix ⑨ on March 21, 2010, 11:30:19 PM
I think SA. Doesn't mean all of it sucks but the ratio of good:bad is probably worst in that game. (I absolutely detest everything from stage 1 through 5)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Bananamatic on March 21, 2010, 11:37:33 PM
play more than stages one and two lol
okay I'll be serious now

the normal shmups have cool music overall, nothing to complain about

PoFV fucked up every single theme
why the hell does Youmu get that sleep inducing stage theme instead of her badass boss one?

SWR would be second, but Tenshi's theme saves it
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 21, 2010, 11:41:21 PM
PoFV fucked up every single theme
why the hell does Youmu get that sleep inducing stage theme instead of her badass boss one?
I'll grant you Youmu, but I think Flower Land and Colorful Path go a long way towards redemption (even if Wind God Girl sinks it right back).
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 21, 2010, 11:44:33 PM
I'll grant you Youmu, but I think Flower Land and Colorful Path go a long way towards redemption (even if Wind God Girl sinks it right back).
Neither of those are remixes of earlier tracks.  Also, <|3 Flower Land.

The proper question to be asked is "Why was Youmu's stage theme watered down to the point that it induces sleep"?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Furienify on March 21, 2010, 11:46:01 PM
When has Youmu ever had a good theme? Only ones I've ever liked are remixes.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Bananamatic on March 21, 2010, 11:48:17 PM
I'll grant you Youmu, but I think Flower Land and Colorful Path go a long way towards redemption (even if Wind God Girl sinks it right back).
Colorful Path=WHERE IS MY DREAM BATTLE ZUNBITCH
Flower Land is meh

it just doesn't fit into a shmup, especially not when you are getting walled by huge balls
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Helix ⑨ on March 21, 2010, 11:49:45 PM
Flowering Night?  ::)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Doomsday on March 22, 2010, 12:00:59 AM
To me, PoFV in general had the weaker music. Nothing in it appealed to me really. Fate of Sixty Years was nice though, but it wasn't quite epic enough.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 22, 2010, 12:01:13 AM
When has Youmu ever had a good theme? Only ones I've ever liked are remixes.
Ancient Temple is it.
If you didn't like the PCB version, you're sure to hate the IaMP version.

On the other hand, the SWR redo of Till When? is the only version I've heard that I liked.

@Helix 9 ⑨:  Wrong game.

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Fate of Sixty Years was nice though, but it wasn't quite epic enough
YAMA! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGqlEL9WQW0&fmt=18)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Iryan on March 22, 2010, 12:07:13 AM
Flowering Night?  ::)
Lunar Dial and Pocket Watch of Blood. Your argument is invalid.  :yukkuri:


Seriously though, PoFV introduced many new themes. The themes for characters that were newly introduced were generally good, especially Fate of Sixty Years. The themes for characters who already had themes were not bad, but all of them were inferior to at least one of the themes the respective character had already.
On a similar note, why did they choose Broken Moon as Suika's fighting theme instead of Onigashima in the Fairyland? More specifically, why did they take the okay but inferior of the character's two themes and then make it even more boring?

Generally, PoFV, StB and DS all have more mellow themes. While this may be neccessary because they would tire you out too much otherwise, this means there are a lot less memorable pieces of music in them than in the regular touhou games.

Despite all this, the game with the worst sound track is still SoEW. Most of the themes are not really bad, but they are definitely not as good as with the other games. And even if they were, I can still hate on SoEW. Afterall, SoEW is SoEW.


Also: Everyone who does not have the exact same musical taste as me is obviously a horrible person.  :V
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 22, 2010, 12:13:47 AM
Also: Everyone who does not have the exact same musical taste as me is obviously a horrible person.  :V
^^^gets it^^^ :chen:

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And even if they were, I can still hate on SoEW. Afterall, SoEW is SoEW.
Have you played Mystic Square recently?~
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: nintendonut888 on March 22, 2010, 12:17:39 AM
Game with the worst music is PoFV without a doubt. It has about five or six tracks that don't make me cringe (not counting existing themes, where even those sound subpar to the originals). As for individual games...

Title: HRtP (dishonorable mention to SA)
Stage 1: SoEW
Stage 1 boss: IN
Stage 2: EoSD
Stage 2 boss: LLS (sorry Kurumin...)
Stage 3: UFO
Stage 3 boss: SoEW (BET ON DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATH)
Stage 4: SA
Stage 4 boss: Yuki's MS theme
Stage 5: EoSD
Stage 5 boss: PCB
Stage 6: PCB (dishonorable mention to UFO, and I know both are going to get me daggers in my skull)
Stage 6 boss: Eirin's IN theme
Extra: PCB phantasm
Extra boss: SA (yeah, I know SoEW has an extra stage, but that song has special meaning to me so I put it above SA)
Ending: SA
Staff roll: PoFV
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Arcengal on March 22, 2010, 12:47:55 AM
Probably Shoot the Bullet. The tracks are all elevator music.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Furienify on March 22, 2010, 01:03:06 AM
Okay, my turn.

Title:
Stage 1: SA
Stage 1 Boss: SA
Stage 2: PCB. Puts me to sleep.
Stage 2 Boss: PCB again, same as above.
Stage 3: SA
Stage 3 Boss: IN (nice remixes though)
Stage 4: PCB. Peaceful is ok, but not with a hopelessly hard and grueling and LONGGGGG stage. DHM: EoSD.
Stage 4 Boss: IN, Reimu. Never understood what people liked about this theme.
Stage 5: SA. Boooring.
Stage 5 Boss: SA, same as above. I absolutely despise this stage and boss fight so much. SA is crap up until 6.
Stage 6: UFO
Stage 6 Boss: IN Eirin
Stage EX: SA
Stage EX Boss: EoSD Ruuu~ *stab*

Photo: The Tengu Is Watching (something like that)
Fighter: IaMP Youmu, Iku,
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Azinth on March 22, 2010, 01:04:34 AM
I'm too goddamn lazy to make a list.

Easy target answer would be DS obviously.  Otherwise, I'd probably tie SoEW, LLS, and EoSD (lol I'm gonna get tarred and feathered so bad for those last two).  They're not bad soundtracks per se, just really inconsistent.

Oh, and I should mention that I don't play fightan gaemz and haven't listened to HRtP's or PoFV's sountracks in like a billion years.  That could've influenced it a bit.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 22, 2010, 01:08:28 AM
Easy target answer would be DS obviously.  Otherwise, I'd probably tie SoEW, LLS, and EoSD (lol I'm gonna get tarred and feathered so bad for those last two).  They're not bad soundtracks per se, just really inconsistent.
EoSD less so, a lot of the tracks are disputed.  LLS, though...nearly every track is at least good, so FLAME ON KILL THE HEATHEN TAKIN' YOU PUNKS DOWN RAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Lexica on March 22, 2010, 01:58:51 AM
May I barge in with a random list...? I don't quite remember the ordering of PoFV levels but every single one of them fails almost inevitably... out of the list here. Restricting to shooters after TH6 otherwise takes tooooo much effort to write...

Title: PoFV, all others make some sort of sense...
St1: erm...UFO...? I found all stage 1 themes to be relatively good
St1B: SA, as above none of them fails too badly
St2: UFO again... this time more fitting for the title
St2B: EoSD. Sorry Cirn9 but this one is for you :D
St3: MoF. Maybe because I didn't like Nitori the slightest bit... And Keine's level narrowly escapes doom
St3B: Mof. Still... Couldn't find anything worse, perhaps.
St4: IN. A themeless...theme?
St4B: PCB. Phantom sisters needs a resit in their musical tests... Not even remixes do this theme justice.
St5: SA. Maybe just haven't got used to the new musical style yet.
St5B: PCB. Erm Ancient Temple is great, but this one is just... meh, I'll listen to the IaMP version...
St6: SA. If I had to make a choice... then it will be this, all other stage 6 are generally epic
St6B: IN(6B). Sorry NEET but this goes to you for being a NEET.
Extra: UFO. Maybe 30 into the future I will appreciate it...?
ExtraB: UFO. Screvv you for mocking Flandre;'s one!...... Poor Yukari comes close second.
Ending: SA not for a particular reason

That's all perhaps
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on March 22, 2010, 02:17:19 AM
I found PoDD to have pretty underwhelming music aside from Reincarnation, Mystic Oriental Love Consultation, and Dim.Dream.  I couldn't tell you what any of the other songs sound like.

*hides behind flame shield*
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ebarrett on March 22, 2010, 02:18:32 AM
I found PoDD to have pretty underwhelming music
BURN THE HERETIC
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: LHCling on March 22, 2010, 02:21:27 AM
BURN THE HERETIC DROWN THE HERETIC
You have to get around that Flame Shield y'know  :V

That said, overall I feel that IN has the most underwhelming tracks of all games.

:subjective:
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on March 22, 2010, 02:24:14 AM
That said, overall I feel that IN has the most underwhelming tracks of all games.

:subjective:
Oh wait, I forgot about this.

Vote changed, stop hurting me please D:
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ebarrett on March 22, 2010, 02:26:19 AM
You have to get around that Flame Shield y'know  :V
I didn't bother to read his post until the end  :V


That said, overall I feel that IN has the most underwhelming tracks of all games.

:subjective:
Nah, it's not subjective.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: LHCling on March 22, 2010, 02:31:26 AM
Nah, it's not subjective.
Objective then?  :V

/me initiates battle stance
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ebarrett on March 22, 2010, 02:35:15 AM
/me initiates battle stance
I thought I was agreeing with you, but now I'm confused!
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: LHCling on March 22, 2010, 02:37:52 AM
Well, you never can be too cautious; there might be a few people who disagree with IN being overall worst after all.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 22, 2010, 03:36:46 AM
Well, you never can be too cautious; there might be a few people who disagree with IN being overall worst after all.
* theshim finishes slitting Baity's throat

You called?

I mean come on.  Stage 1, Stage 2, Mystia, Keine, Reimu, Stage 6 and Mokou, and you're calling it underwhelming?  I see your IN and raise you a UFO, heathen sir!
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 22, 2010, 05:04:00 AM
No PC-98 because I haven't played enough of them yet :V

Title - A Dream that is More Scarlet than Red (EoSD)
St. 1 - Anything that's not At The End of Spring (UFO) and Lost Place (SA) :V
Boss 1 - Apparitions Stalk The Night (EoSD)
St. 2 - Lunate Elf (EoSD)
Boss 2 - Deaf to All But the Song (IN) (decent, but the rest are better)
St. 3 - Nostalgic Blood of The East ~ Old World (IN) and The Doll Maker of Bucuresti (PCB)
Boss 3 - A Flower-Studded Sake Dish on Mt. Ooe (SA) The Traditional Old Man and The Stylish Girl (UFO)
St. 4 - Capital City of Flowers in the Sky (PCB)
Boss 4 - Love. Colored. Master. Spark (IN) and Locked Girl (EoSD)
St. 5 - Kagome-Kagome (IN) and Rural Makai City Esoteria (UFO)
Boss 5 - Luna Fucking Dial (EoSD) (is garbage ZUN stomping on his keyboard for four minutes straight
... and did I mention most of EoSD's tracks are four minutes long ?
)
St. 6 - Anything that's not Voyage 1969 (IN) :V
Boss 6 - Histo(ry (IN)
St. X - Charming Domination ~ Who Dun It? (PCB) and Charming Domination (PCB)
Boss X - Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (IN) (bleh ... like Mystia's theme, good, but I've seen better) and Necrofantasia (PCB)

Phantasmagoria - Anything that's not Higan Retour and Fate of Six(ry and Tabula rasa and Strawber(ry
Fighting - Night Falls ~ Evening Star (IaMP/SWR) (this is a fucking song ? Even CtC's version is better) and The Eternal Steam Engine (Soku)

PoFV fucked up every single theme
why the hell does Youmu get that sleep inducing stage theme instead of her badass boss one?

Because it's better :V
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Drake on March 22, 2010, 05:11:24 AM
Just going to say that I found IN's music generally bad. Reimu's theme is good, Kagome and Voyage 1969 are great. Rest range from meh to bleh. PoFV was also bad.

Only counting the main games...
Title: EoSD
Stage 1: IN
Stage 1B: IN
Stage 2: IN/UFO
Stage 2B: IN
Stage 3: UFO
Stage 3B: IN
Stage 4: IN
Stage 4B: IN (Marisa)
Stage 5: EoSD
Stage 5B: PCB
Stage 6: EoSD
Stage 6B: IN (Kaguya)
Stage EX: IN
Stage EXB: EoSD/IN
Ending: dunno
Credits: SA
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 22, 2010, 05:22:36 AM
Boss 5 - Luna Fucking Dial (EoSD) (is garbage ZUN stomping on his keyboard for four minutes straight
... and did I mention most of EoSD's tracks are four minutes long ?
)
Luna Dial is exactly 80 seconds long, and can be neatly divided in halves or quarters.  The first half, I'll admit, is crazy chaotic, but the whole second half is
awesome
very easy to follow.  Note that the four-minute version that everyone seems to have loops the song exactly three times.

I also must note that we agree on so many things, yet are UTTERLY divided on others. (Cosmic Mind is still garbage kthx)  Shrug.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: LHCling on March 22, 2010, 05:24:44 AM
* theshim finishes slitting Baity's throat
What kind of Yatagarasu goes around trying to kill people? Oh, I know! Hi
Callisto
! :V

I mean come on.  Stage 1, Stage 2, Mystia, Keine, Reimu, Stage 6 and Mokou, and you're calling it underwhelming?
:subjective:
Besides that, everybody knows Capriccio is better than Dream Battle  <3
/suggestion

Shrug.
:subjective:
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 22, 2010, 05:29:11 AM
Besides that, everybody knows Capriccio is better than Dream Battle  <3
Both are very well done, but while Love-Colored Magic didn't survive being remixed very well, ZUN did a superb job with Dream Battle.  Everything about the track is awesome.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Azinth on March 22, 2010, 05:40:06 AM
Luna Dial is exactly 80 seconds long, and can be neatly divided in halves or quarters.  The first half, I'll admit, is crazy chaotic, but the whole second half is
awesome
very easy to follow.  Note that the four-minute version that everyone seems to have loops the song exactly three times.

I might have been able to take Luna Dial seriously if it weren't for that dumb-ass percussion instrument that plays off-rhythm half the time and sounds like a door being slammed shut.  'Chaotic' is far too elegant a description for it. :P

Besides that, everybody knows Capriccio is better than Dream Battle  <3

+1
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 22, 2010, 05:42:35 AM
I might have been able to take Luna Dial seriously if it weren't for that dumb-ass percussion instrument that plays off-rhythm half the time and sounds like a door being slammed shut.  'Chaotic' is far too elegant a description for it. :P
If we're talking about the same one, it's chaotic - perhaps a bit much - for the first half, but I love what ZUN does with it in the second.

*changes topic title to "Luna Dial discussion thread"*
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Ghaleon on March 22, 2010, 06:16:02 AM
no pc-98 games for me since I'm not familiar enough with them...Hell, I'm not familiar with my LEAST fave songs even in the windows ones. I mean I have some that I like especially so for their stage, and some I think are "meh", but I never really ranked the "mehs" before.. Anyway I'll try.
I'm excluding all the .5s, as well as phantasmagoria of flower view

Title screen: SA
stage 1: Gosh, I find stage 1 music is really good most of the time. Probably EoSD if it didn't have that super nostalgic "my first time playing touhou" feeling I get when I hear it (which makes it own).. So yeah, excluding eosd >=P...UFO, but it's still quite good.
ST1B: SA, not much difficulty deciding this one.

Stage 2: Going to have to go with UFO again on this one
ST2B: Probably EoSD...Yes I dislike Cirno's theme gasp.
ST3: SA I guess, not really sure about this one
ST3B: UFO, I *REALLY* like a good deal of this song actually, enough to almost be my fave. I just HATE the part that gets repeated alot however >=(.
stage 4: UFO, though the wisp/Nue part is a nice touch.
Stage 4B: MoF (Aya's theme stinks Forza! >=P)
Stage 5:  IN... I dislike trumpets... Zun trumpets I don't mind, but the song is pretty much 90% trumpets soo...
Stage 5B: IN, Reisen's theme is snore.
stage 6: SA
ST6B: SA (I really don't know why Utusho's theme is so popular. Yes, it sounds very industrial and nuclear but.. Well, that's not exactly good sounding music IMO)
Extra: UFO/PCB, tough call.
ExtraB: SA

Sure seems like SA/UFO aren't very high on the music list for Touhou, I hope I enjoy TH13's music more overall. They still aren't bad though!
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 22, 2010, 06:26:59 AM
Luna Dial is exactly 80 seconds long, and can be neatly divided in halves or quarters.  The first half, I'll admit, is crazy chaotic, but the whole second half is
awesome
very easy to follow.  Note that the four-minute version that everyone seems to have loops the song exactly three times.

Yes, I was talking about the OST.

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1871/eosd.png)

I also must note that we agree on so many things, yet are UTTERLY divided on others. (Cosmic Mind is still garbage kthx)  Shrug.

Especially when the series has around 500 tracks and stuff :V
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on March 22, 2010, 06:55:29 AM
Boss 5 - Luna Fucking Dial (EoSD) (is garbage ZUN stomping on his keyboard for four minutes straight
... and did I mention most of EoSD's tracks are four minutes long ?
)

This man said it best. The only thing worse than "Lunar Clock ~ Luna Dial" is "Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When?" when played on the MIDI channel, which is sadly the only way sound works for me on PCB. Therefore, it gets my vote by default. ;_;
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Garlyle on March 22, 2010, 07:56:32 AM
Worsts, huh?  Hmm.

Title: A Sacred Lot (tHRtP)
Stage 1: A Soul as Red as a Ground Cherry (EoSD)
Boss 1: The Sealed-Away Youkai ~ Lost Place (SA)
Stage 2: Break the Sabbath (LLS)
Boss 2: Deaf to All But The Song (IN)
Stage 3: World of Empty Dreams (SoEW)
Boss 3: A Flower-Studded Sake Dish on Mt. Ooe (SA) (Bet on Death (SoEW) is very close)
Stage 4: Voile, the Magical Library (EoSD)
Boss 4: Phantom Ensemble (PCB)
Stage 5: Lotus Love (LLS)
Boss 5: Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When? (PCB)
Stage 6: The Young Descendant of Tepes (EoSD)
Boss 6: Septette for the Dead Princess (EoSD) (But I love them all)
Stage X: Extend Ash ~ Hourai Victim (IN)
Boss X: Cute Devil ~ Innocence (LLS)
Fighting: Demystify Feast (IaMP)
Non-standard-numbered anything (tHRtP/StB/DS): Angel's Legend (tHRtP)
Phantasmagoria: Lord Usa's Elemental Flag (PoFV)


What catches my eye is that although I don't think MS has a particularly stellar soundtrack, it never once ends up with a 'the worst' in any given case.

With that said I think PoFV's my least favourite soundtrack, thankfully there's Fate of Sixty Years, Gensokyo Past and Present, and Poison Body.  Because I really don't like -anything- from that one that isn't a remix [and even then...]
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: 8lue Wizard on March 22, 2010, 08:26:11 AM
ITT: Musicz r serious business in Gensokyo.

I'm no expert at music, so my faves/least faves come and go with my mood.
That said, I'm going to have to ask everyone that mentioned "Walking the Streets of a Former Hell" (SA s3) to step outside. >:(
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: RainfallYoshi on March 22, 2010, 08:41:16 AM
Stealing Garlyle's format for laziness. Also, Title is missing for a reason.

Stage 1: Soul as Red as A Ground Cherry (EoSD)
Boss 1: Crystallized Silver (PCB, Letty Whiterock)
Stage 2: Song of the Night Sparrow (IN)
Boss 2: Deaf to all but the Song (Mystia Lorelei, IN)
Stage 3: Nostalgic Blood of the East (IN)
Boss 3: Plain Asia (Keine Kamishirasawa, IN)
Stage 4: The Capital City of Flowers in the Sky (PCB)
Boss 4: Captain Murasa (Murasa Minamitsu, UFO)
Stage 5: Rural Makai City Esoterica (UFO)
Boss 5: Invisible Full Moon (Reisen Udonge, IN)
Stage 6: Fires of Houkai (UFO)
Boss 6: Border of Life (Yuyuko Saigyouji, PCB) (I don't really hate any of them, this was a hard decision...)
Stage X: Charming Domination (PCB)
Boss X: Native Faith (Suwako Moriya, MoF)
Fighting: Demystify Feast
Non-standard-numbered anything (tHRtP/StB/DS): Wind Tour (StB, Photo Theme #1)
Phantasmagoria: Lord Usa's Elemental Flag (Tewi Inaba, PoFV)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Garlyle on March 22, 2010, 08:43:59 AM
Stage 6: Fires of Houkai (UFO)
Oh the world of the dharma is GONNA BE FILLED WITH PAIN
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Aisha on March 22, 2010, 08:49:29 AM
I must be the only one who actually likes EoSD's Luna Dial.

I can't really think of a list because most of the games aren't fresh on my mind, but, with the exception of some songs, I'm definitely pretty tired of PCB's music by this point, with EoSD and IN closely behind. I've been into Touhou for too long, so nowadays I'm mostly into more ZUN's more current music, since it's not as stale.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: DgBarca on March 22, 2010, 09:23:33 AM
Title : Awakening of the Earth Spirits (SA)

Stage 1 : Er...I don't dislike any of them...maybe...The Dark Blowhole (SA), but it is surely because I hate the stage itself
Stage 1B : Magic Formation ~ Magic Square (MS), I play with next, so it's ear rape with LOONG OBVIOUS NOTES THAT DON'T END ! 

Stage 2 : The Road of the Apotropaic God ~ Dark Road (MoF), just, bland.
Stage 2B : Power of Darkness =/

Stage 3 : The Doll Maker of Bucuresti  (PCB) Am I the only one that dislike this overrated song ?
Stage 3B : Bet On Death (SoEW), that not that I really hate it on death, but I sound more like a stage 1 mid-boss theme.

Stage 4 : ...None
Stage 4B : Love Coloured Master Spark (IN) Too much listening to that one.

Stage 5 : Rural Makai City Esoterica (UFO), Least favorite but not disliked
Stage 5B : The Tiger-Patterned Bishamonten (UFO) see above

Stage 6 : Hellfire Mantle (SA) Set up the mood, but that's all
Stage 6B : I like them AAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL !

Stage EX : Both of PCB, boring
Stage EXB : The Tank Girl's Dream (SoEW)...BLEH.

Best music post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=82.msg290315#msg290315)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: orinrin on March 22, 2010, 11:55:11 AM
Necrofantasia sucks even when I turn the volume down.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 22, 2010, 12:05:53 PM
Necrofantasia sucks even when I turn the volume down.
Necro-Fantasy is worse when I mute the volume.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Tapsa on March 22, 2010, 12:21:42 PM
StB
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Jaimers on March 22, 2010, 01:50:12 PM
IaMP has pretty subpar music.

There are like 5 good tracks.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Helix ⑨ on March 22, 2010, 02:44:46 PM
@Helix 9 ⑨:  Wrong game.
YAMA! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGqlEL9WQW0&fmt=18)
Flowering night is not from PoFV?  :/
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Alice Fact on March 22, 2010, 09:02:55 PM
why is everyone picking soul as red

maaaaaan
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 23, 2010, 12:44:40 AM
Flowering night is not from PoFV?  :/
It is, but... Wait, I'm getting confused.
Were you talking about the good version of Flowering Night, or were you talking about the PoFV version?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Azinth on March 23, 2010, 01:02:04 AM
SWR Flowering Night is way inferior to the original, which is a well-written and well-arranged song despite the synths.  Haters gonna hate etc.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 23, 2010, 01:32:07 AM
SWR Flowering Night is way inferior to the original, which is a well-written and well-arranged song despite the synths.  Haters gonna hate etc.
How is the SWR version less well-written/arranged?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Azinth on March 23, 2010, 01:56:46 AM
How is the SWR version less well-written/arranged?

I don't like how the string instruments were incorporated into the SWR version.  It makes it sound all bright and bouncy.  The PoFV version sounds darker and more low-key, which I think fits the song better.  That and the cello sounds way too scrubby, I mean eww man put some slurs in there for chrissakes

Plus I just like the PoFV version better.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Patorikku on March 23, 2010, 04:29:13 AM
Jeez, why is everyone hating on SA? It's not that bad at all, especially not Satori or Koishi's stage/boss themes...  :ohdear:

Stage 1 - Honestly, everything before SA bored me for the starting, but EoSD takes the cake.
Boss 1 - IN
Stage 2 - UFO, because it didn't really click as well as it could've...
Boss 2 - IN
Stage 3 - IN
Boss 3 - Jeez, IN's on a roll for this one...
Stage 4 - Really tough decision, as all of the stage 4's were decent, but I'd have to say PCB
Boss 4 - Once again, toughie, but this is going off to MoF, because Wind God Girl > Mysterious Mountain for me.
Stage 5 -EoSD
Boss 5 - The toughest decisions are only beginning... I'd have to say MoF here
Stage 6 - EoSD
Boss 6 - Kaguya of IN
Extra Stage - EoSD
Extra Boss - You ask for impossible answers, but in this case, Flandre's taking the fall. EoSD
No personal worst for Ending or Credits
Photo Ops - Black Eyes of StB
Fighters - SWR version of Higan Retour

Overall - IN
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Zengeku on March 23, 2010, 08:27:46 AM
Here goes my list. I don't really think most of these songs are bad but i'm only counting the windows games and i'm listing down the songs i think are the worst representatives for stages 1 to EX including their bosses. I won't be considering menu themes or credits themes as i rarely listen to those at all. Only when i have to.

ZUN is generally an excellent music composer so i'll have to list a lot of songs i really like but are outmatched by their competitors. The only song on this list i actually think sucks is Fires of Hokkai - UFO Stage 6. So eternally boring a track for such a boring stage. Those heartbeats don't help much either.

S1: EoSD
S1 Boss: EoSD
S2: UFO
S2 Boss: PCB
S3: UFO
S3 Boss: IN
S4: EoSD
S4 Boss: EoSD
S5: MoF
S5 Boss: IN
S6: UFO
S6 Boss: PCB
EX: IN
EX Boss: SA

Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: An Odd Sea Slug on March 23, 2010, 09:20:45 AM
I really don't understand the hate on SA and IN's soundtracks. For me, ZUN's weakest efforts have doubtlessly been in PoFV and UFO.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I actually like much of the material from PoFV, but it was mostly a bunch of sub-par tracks drowning out the ear-candy. UFO's music is not catchy or memorable for me at all.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Zengeku on March 23, 2010, 11:49:28 AM
I really don't understand the hate on SA and IN's soundtracks. For me, ZUN's weakest efforts have doubtlessly been in PoFV and UFO.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I actually like much of the material from PoFV, but it was mostly a bunch of sub-par tracks drowning out the ear-candy. UFO's music is not catchy or memorable for me at all.

I don't understand the hate but i don't understand your dislike towards UFO's music either. People's music tastes are weird. Mine as well.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 23, 2010, 12:06:31 PM
Seconding that I have no idea why people think the UFO soundtrack is bad.
Start liking more atmospheric music.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Azinth on March 23, 2010, 05:26:56 PM
Start liking more atmospheric music.

Such as all the other Touhou soundtracks?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 23, 2010, 06:18:01 PM
<this post was lame, ignore>
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Ghaleon on March 23, 2010, 06:18:26 PM
I think people need to understand that least fave != hate.
I don't really hate any of the songs on my list. I'm sure I'm not the only one too.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 23, 2010, 06:31:20 PM
Hate, eh ... not really, unless someone goes "Cosmic Mind your song sucks mine's better".
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 23, 2010, 06:34:23 PM
I think people need to understand that least fave != hate.
Not all drama in this topic is sincere.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Ghaleon on March 23, 2010, 06:54:17 PM
Not all drama in this topic is sincere.

Wasn't referring to the drama so much as the  numerous posts I've seen stating something like "Seconding that I have no idea why people think the UFO soundtrack is bad.". I saw one for PCB, and IN, and SA, etc.
I don't think any of them have a noticeable amount of people who think they are actually BAD per say.

But clearly, too many people underrate EoSD music, what gives! >=P
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: SupahVee1234 on March 23, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
St. 1 - A Soul As Red as a Ground Cherry (EoSD) HM A God that Loves People ~ Romantic Fall (MoF)
St. 2 - The Road of the Apotropaic God ~ Dark Road (MoF)
Boss 3 - A Flower-Studded Sake Dish on Mt. Ooe (SA) HM Bet on Death (SoEW)
Boss 5 - Corpse Voyage ~ Be of Good Cheer! (SA)
NOOO
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Ghaleon on March 23, 2010, 07:09:13 PM
NOOO

I can sorta agree with that. but according to the popularity contenst, be of good cheer is really ranked quite low, so I shouldn't be surprised with that one..

Zengeku though:
Quote
S6 Boss: PCB

That one blew me away, I thought EVERYONE liked that one. I mean I know septette is more popular but I can sorta see the liklihood of someone disliking it due to the instrumentation, and the lack of "final boss" feeling you get from the song. But but.. EVERYONE likes Yuyuko's theme! Clearly Zengeku suffers from some kind of brain disorder, we should take him to a doctor! >=P
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 23, 2010, 07:13:12 PM
But clearly, too many people underrate EoSD music, what gives! >=P
The instrumentation has quite a bit to do with it; the rest is that the music tends to be bland or not go anywhere.  Some of it manages to be decent in spite of that (Centennial Festival); a lot of it isn't (Lunate Elf, Red/Ground Cherry).

Probably the best tracks on the EoSD playlist are the Scarlet Belvedere, Meiling's theme, Patchy's theme, Remilia's theme, and Centennial Festival.

Quote
But but.. EVERYONE likes Yuyuko's theme!
ZUNpets at the end kind of ruin it, plus it doesn't loop well.
Very remixable though.

Quote
but according to the popularity contenst, be of good cheer is really ranked quite low, so I shouldn't be surprised with that one..
Orin's theme sounds like the BGM for Phoenix Wright trying to beg for people to agree with him.  Or at least that's kind of the mental picture I get.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 23, 2010, 07:23:07 PM
Hate, eh ... not really, unless someone goes "Cosmic Mind your song sucks mine's better".
Cosmic Mind sucks mine's better
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Seian Verian on March 23, 2010, 07:24:17 PM

Title: UFO's (Can't be bothered with the name on this one)
Stage 1: Hakurei~ Eastern Wind (...Fine, dishonorable mention to Romantic Fall)
Boss 1: Because Princess Inada is Scolding Me (MoF's for those of you who never remember Minoriko :V )
Stage 2: Break the Sabbath
Boss 2: Power of Darkness and Scarlet Phoneme for both being utterly forgettable
Stage 3: BAD FREAKING APPLE
Boss 3: It's... Hard to pick one. Many are rather forgettable, none of them really stand out as not as good as others.
Stage 4: Interdimensional Voyage of a Ghostly Passenger Ship
Boss 4: Gah... So hard to choose, all so awesome... I guess I'll go with 3rd eye =/
Stage 5: Lotus Love for being way too forgettable
Boss 5: Have to go with Invisible Full Moon here, as it just doesn't stand out as much as others.
Stage 6: Hm... What was it called again? Oh yeah, Dream Land. Forgettable, etc.
Boss 6: LUNATIC PRINCESS!
Stage X: UFO Romance in the Night Sky
Boss X: Native Faith
Fighting: Wonderful Heaven
Non-standard-numbered anything (tHRtP/StB/DS): Wind God Girl (It counts <.< )
Phantasmagoria: I really wanna go with Wind God Girl here... But maybe Lord Usa's Elemental Flag deserves it more. Dunno, so hard to remember it... <_<
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: DgBarca on March 23, 2010, 07:36:49 PM
Title: UFO's (Can't be bothered with the name on this one)
Stage 1: Hakurei~ Eastern Wind (...Fine, dishonorable mention to Romantic Fall)
Boss 1: Because Princess Inada is Scolding Me (MoF's for those of you who never remember Minoriko :V )
Stage 2: Break the Sabbath
Boss 2: Power of Darkness and Scarlet Phoneme for both being utterly forgettable
Stage 3: BAD FREAKING APPLE
Boss 3: It's... Hard to pick one. Many are rather forgettable, none of them really stand out as not as good as others.
Stage 4: Interdimensional Voyage of a Ghostly Passenger Ship
Boss 4: Gah... So hard to choose, all so awesome... I guess I'll go with 3rd eye =/
Stage 5: Lotus Love for being way too forgettable
Boss 5: Have to go with Invisible Full Moon here, as it just doesn't stand out as much as others.
Stage 6: Hm... What was it called again? Oh yeah, Dream Land. Forgettable, etc.
Boss 6: LUNATIC PRINCESS!
Stage X: UFO Romance in the Night Sky
Boss X: Native Faith
Fighting: Wonderful Heaven
Non-standard-numbered anything (tHRtP/StB/DS): Wind God Girl (It counts <.< )
Phantasmagoria: I really wanna go with Wind God Girl here... But maybe Lord Usa's Elemental Flag deserves it more. Dunno, so hard to remember it... <_<
*faint* Wow, that is probably the most surprising choise...
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ふねん1 on March 23, 2010, 08:09:05 PM
Maybe I'll give this a shot. Games that apply: EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, SA. Not gonna do titles, credits, and such since I hardly pay attention to those anyway.

- Stage 1: EoSD. I like the opening and the trumpet's melody, but the rest is bland enough to (barely) push it below the rest (yeah, it's kinda hard to call this one).
- Stage 1 Boss: IN. Wriggle's theme is so annoying. DHM to Minoriko's theme.
- Stage 2: EoSD. Lunate Elf is too bland on its own, plus it really suffers from EoSD's bad instrumentation.
- Stage 2 Boss: MoF. Hina's theme feels too random in the way its melody progresses.
- Stage 3: IN, because it's vaguely associated with Keine. Keine is associated with history. I'm not fond of history. You do the math.
- Stage 3 Boss: Tie between IN and SA. IN for the reasons above, SA because Yuugi's theme has little substance whatsoever.
- Stage 4: EoSD. Really lackluster melody compared to the rest.
- Stage 4 Boss: PCB. Another tough one, as I've just realized that I somewhat like the Prismriver Sisters' theme, but I don't think I'll end up liking it enough to overtake the rest.
- Stage 5: IN. Two words: ZUN trumpets.
- Stage 5 Boss: EoSD, if only because of the horrible instrumentation.
- Stage 6: PCB. Nothing about it really stands out to me, plus it gives me bad memories of OMGBROKENSTAGESPAM.
- Stage 6 Boss: IN (History of the Moon). That's not to say I hate it at all, just that it barely misses the cut.
- Extra Stage: IN. Annoying trumpets again.
- Extra Stage Boss: MoF. I don't see why everyone likes Native Faith so much. IMO the fast-paced piano at the beginning is cool, but the rest isn't.

Not gonna label one game as having the "worst soundtrack", since it would be wrong for me to condemn whatever awesome songs each game has in the process.

Boss 4: Gah... So hard to choose, all so awesome... I guess I'll go with 3rd eye =/
Wait...what?

I know you're saying they're all awesome, but seriously, 3rd Eye is way too good to be considered here.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: sera on March 23, 2010, 08:29:17 PM
Opinions time! For some reason a lot of LLS music ended up in this list. I decided to leave SoeW out since cheating, etc.

Title: A Sacred Lot (HRtP) - Generic, nothing much to say here.
Stage 1: Selene's light (LLS) - Sounds shrill and repetitive.
Boss 1: Stirring an Autumn Moon ~ Mooned Insect (IN) - It's cute, but the synths are too loud and there's nothing special about it.
Stage 2: The Sealed Cloud Route (UFO) - Nothing special, again.
Boss 2: Scarlet Symphony ~ Scarlet Phoneme (LLS) - Definition of a repetitive ZUN song. Poor Kurumi doesn't get a good boss or stage theme.
Stage 3: Sky Ruin (UFO) - More bland UFO stage music.
Boss 3: Plastic Mind (MS) - Sounds kind of dark and harsh.
Stage 4: Voile, the Magic Library (EoSD) - It sounds stuffy; the only part I like is after Koakuma enters in-game.
Boss 4: Crimson Maiden ~ Crimson Dead!! (MS) - Loud, repetitive, etc.
Stage 5: Lotus Love (LLS) - I don't really remember this song from going through the game, and it pales in comparison to other stage 5 themes.
Boss 5: Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird (PCB) - The melody is fine, but the instrumentation is way too blaring.
Stage 6: Hellfire Mantle (SA) - Ehh, it fits the stage but I just don't like it too much.
Boss 6: Flight of the Bamboo Cutter ~ Lunatic Princess (IN) - I like the opening, but the percussion gets excessive and the instrumentation is kind of annoying.
Stage Ex: The Inevitably Forbidden Game (LLS) - The melody gets really grating after a while.
Boss Ex: Hartmann's Youkai Girl (SA) - Neat song name, but the only thing that stands out about it is the creepy tone.
Phantasmagoria: Oriental Dark Flight (POFV) - One of many unmemorable PoFV songs. I do like Reimu's theme, though.

(edit) Oh wow I just typed in 'Macbeth stage 4' while trying to do my Brit lit homework. This is why I shouldn't multitask.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 23, 2010, 09:19:38 PM
(edit) Oh wow I just typed in 'Macbeth stage 4' while trying to do my Brit lit homework. This is why I shouldn't multitask.
Eh, S4's nothing to worry about.  It's Macbeth S5 that's the problem.  All those damn trees that spawn soldiers when you destroy them are a pain to dodge.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Sen on March 24, 2010, 12:08:47 AM
IN and IaMP are tied for worst music. IaMP has Evening Star, Silence, and Dance of Witches. IN has Voyage 1969 and the first fifteen seconds of Old World :V
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Reddyne on March 24, 2010, 02:01:48 AM
I would have to say PoFV. The tunes are mostly redundantly redundant mediocrity and consistently don't measure up to the music in the other games. I just think that the music in the game was an afterthought. I could compare the game itself to PoDD and say that the music would take a backseat to the action and consider that its excuse, but PoDD's music is great.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on March 24, 2010, 03:12:52 AM
IN. Everything about IN is terrible, and its soundtrack is no different-- with the sole exception of Old World, which I have a soft spot for.

Dishonorable mention to IaMP-- it has two good songs in its favor (its remix of Lunar Dial and Oriental Memory of Forgathering Dream), but it is not much better than IN, which is at the bottom of the barrel.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 24, 2010, 04:18:17 AM
Title: UFO's (Can't be bothered with the name on this one)
Stage 1: Hakurei~ Eastern Wind (...Fine, dishonorable mention to Romantic Fall)
Boss 1: Because Princess Inada is Scolding Me (MoF's for those of you who never remember Minoriko :V )
Stage 2: Break the Sabbath
Boss 2: Power of Darkness and Scarlet Phoneme for both being utterly forgettable
Stage 3: BAD FREAKING APPLE
Boss 3: It's... Hard to pick one. Many are rather forgettable, none of them really stand out as not as good as others.
Stage 4: Interdimensional Voyage of a Ghostly Passenger Ship
Boss 4: Gah... So hard to choose, all so awesome... I guess I'll go with 3rd eye =/
Stage 5: Lotus Love for being way too forgettable
Boss 5: Have to go with Invisible Full Moon here, as it just doesn't stand out as much as others.
Stage 6: Hm... What was it called again? Oh yeah, Dream Land. Forgettable, etc.
Boss 6: LUNATIC PRINCESS!
Stage X: UFO Romance in the Night Sky
Boss X: Native Faith
Fighting: Wonderful Heaven
Non-standard-numbered anything (tHRtP/StB/DS): Wind God Girl (It counts <.< )
Phantasmagoria: I really wanna go with Wind God Girl here... But maybe Lord Usa's Elemental Flag deserves it more. Dunno, so hard to remember it... <_<
I think I died multiple times while reading this post.  Except for the part about 3rd Eye, which is overrated.  (ZUNpets again)
EDIT:  and Lunatic Princess

Break the Sabbath and BAD Apple!! are awesome :angryface:
Scarlet Phoneme is repetitive, but at least it goes into like seven different keys.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Zengeku on March 24, 2010, 09:50:14 AM
Zengeku though:
That one blew me away, I thought EVERYONE liked that one. I mean I know septette is more popular but I can sorta see the liklihood of someone disliking it due to the instrumentation, and the lack of "final boss" feeling you get from the song. But but.. EVERYONE likes Yuyuko's theme! Clearly Zengeku suffers from some kind of brain disorder, we should take him to a doctor! >=P

I like the song a lot indeed but i find the other S6 boss songs to be better. If you could find a doctor that could cure danmaku-sucking i would be interested... i play horribly right now.

Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Aisha on March 24, 2010, 10:12:15 AM
I actually don't care for Yuyuko's theme. It's not a bad song, but when I said that I was tired of PCB music, I meant pretty much everything but Crystallized Silver. :V
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Sen on March 24, 2010, 12:14:19 PM
Border of Life is fucking awful.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 24, 2010, 12:47:47 PM
At least it's got sexy remixes.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Helion on March 24, 2010, 12:52:10 PM
PCB
Bad music, depressing as well. Border of Life has some parts that shine and some that suck. Necrofantasy is so terrible ZUN had to remix it into something completely different for Necrofantasia to sound good.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Slaves on March 24, 2010, 03:37:41 PM
Border of Life is fucking awful.

HRHGHRUGHHGHH
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Infy♫ on March 24, 2010, 05:08:28 PM
hrm. I'll make a list. Not including PC-98 themes.

ST1: MoF
ST1B: IN
ST2: UFO
ST2B: UFO
ST3: UFO
ST3B: SA
ST4: EoSD
ST4B: MoF
ST5: IN
ST5B: EoSD
ST6: SA
ST6B: SA
EX: UFO
EXB: UFO
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: CK Crash on March 24, 2010, 07:30:08 PM
Border of Life is fucking awful.
I normally like ZUN trumpets, but he really screwed them up with whatever 2nd instrument he used in this song.

Also Luna Dial isn't music, so it shouldn't even be listed here.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Iryan on March 24, 2010, 07:37:38 PM
Also Luna Dial isn't music, so it shouldn't even be listed here.
Damn right.

Luna Dial shouldn't be listed in the "Worst Music"-Thread, and it isn't mere music - it is better.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Bananamatic on March 24, 2010, 07:41:17 PM
I could record Luna Dial the next time I hit my head on my keyboard because I've died with 6 bombs in DDP yet again
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on March 24, 2010, 08:03:56 PM
How is Necrofantasia better than Necrofantasy?

Anytime I have fight Yukari, which is rare, I have to turn the volume down more while Necrofantasy isn't complete crap.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Azinth on March 24, 2010, 08:08:45 PM
How is Necrofantasia better than Necrofantasy?

It isn't. ^_^
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Helion on March 24, 2010, 08:20:41 PM
It isn't. ^_^
It is.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Iryan on March 24, 2010, 08:25:21 PM
BATTLE TO THE DEATH ABOUT MUSICAL PREFERENCES GO!
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on March 24, 2010, 08:47:35 PM
Damn right.

Luna Dial shouldn't be listed in the "Worst Music"-Thread, and it isn't mere music - it is better.
Damn straight.

It is.
It isn't.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Zengeku on March 24, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
PCB
Bad music, depressing as well. Border of Life has some parts that shine and some that suck. Necrofantasy is so terrible ZUN had to remix it into something completely different for Necrofantasia to sound good.

Whoa. Its staggering how different people's music tastes are. I don't think there is a single song in PCB that sucks. They are all awesome. For every time i chose PCB for a stage or boss it is only because all the other games provided superior alternatives. In my opinion of course.

But... you seem to dislike the PCB music... you have my condolences.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ふねん1 on March 24, 2010, 10:34:18 PM
It is.
It isn't.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Helion on March 24, 2010, 10:43:01 PM
I despise the depressing nature of PCB's music. I like it all until stage 3.
Then the only "like" I have after that is for Border of Life.
Necro Fantasy I find too moody and monotonous, whereas Necrofantasia is at least melodious.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ふねん1 on March 24, 2010, 11:15:56 PM
Necro Fantasy I find too moody and monotonous, whereas Necrofantasia is at least melodious
Whaddayatalk? They're both melodious.

Necrofantasia's harmony does have a more solid structure to it, I'll give it that, but other factors make it worse (i.e. inferior sound dynamics, instrumentation).
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 24, 2010, 11:32:47 PM
Necrofantasia is like playing four ]-[|/34<#! at once.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Hideki on March 25, 2010, 12:37:00 AM
I despise the depressing nature of PCB's music. I like it all until stage 3.
Then the only "like" I have after that is for Border of Life.
Necro Fantasy I find too moody and monotonous, whereas Necrofantasia is at least melodious.
I don't find PCB's music depressing at all.  In fact, I think it's quite, well not quite upbeat (save for the Prismrivers) but uplifting.  Sure, it doesn't get your blood boiling quite like SA's late stages, but I prefer this. (My preferences show through my favorite remixes; So far my favorite groups are TAM and WAVE with the classical stuff. Not the hard remixes.)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Axel Ryman on March 25, 2010, 01:05:05 AM
I could just list individual stages and such, but instead I'll just detail my likes/dislikes from each game.

EoSD:

Besides Apparitions Stalk the Night, all songs Pre-Stage 4, as well as stage themes for 4,6 and EX, are a bit on my dislike list. Beloved Tomboyish Daughter would also be an exception, but I mostly like the remixes for that theme. The Locked Girl, Septette for the Dead Princess, and U.N. Owen are some of my favorites, with Lunar Clock Lunar Dial being my absolute fave. I blame the fact I like a bit of metal/rock in my Touhou.

PCB:
Most of the songs in this game are enjoyable to me, probably because it was the first Touhou game I ever played. I honestly think that every song in this game is not hated by me in any way, though my most favorite would have to be Phantom Ensemble. I think I have soft spot for songs that have violins in them. Some songs like the Stage 1 theme, Stage 2, and Chen's boss theme aren't the best but they are enjoyable.

IN
In all honesty, this ranks 3rd on my least favorite in terms of games. To me, if I can remember how a theme goes, it means I like it. While trying to recall themes, IN was probably the one that I least remembered without having to replay it. Mystia's stage and boss theme is definitely one of my favorites though, with Love Coloured Master Spark, Cinderella Cage, and Gensokyo Millenium also being up there. Most of the other songs though just aren't too good for me.

IN
Since most of it is just remixes I can't really comment much about it.

PoFV
Similar to IN, though I will say that the music was somewhat terrible. While a few gems were there(Higan Retour, and Fate of the Sixtieth Year..was that what it was?I forgot), most of the other songs just made me wanna mute the computer. And about Youmu's theme...completely agree! Till When should of been used instead of something I could fall asleep to.

StB
This game had music?

MoF
This one ranks number one on my least favorite. While having more songs that I like compared to PoFV, the music in most of the game was just extremely lackluster. While I didn't give much of an eye to Nitori's theme, after hearing a certain vocal version, I started liking it a little bit more. Fall of Falls~Autumn Waterfall, Faith is for the Transient People and The Venerable Ancient Battlefield are the only themes I like in this game. Everything else just disappoints me.

SWR
Similar to IaMP, but Tenshi's theme and Reisen's remix are pretty good.

SA
1st stage is good, boss theme is okay, 2nd stage is good, boss is okay, 3rd stage is okay, boss is good, 4th stage is okay, boss is amazing, 5th stage is okay, boss is good, 6th stage is not so good, boss is great. I know I'm not going too well into this one, but it doesn't stand out too well, but it's not that bad. It's 4th on my least favorite though.

UNL
Faith is for the Transient People remix is nice, but the others aren't too nice. Well Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom is nice here too.

UFO
Had some of my favorite songs here. Beware the Umbrella Left There Forever, Captain Murasa, The Tiger Patterned...Shou's theme..Emotional Skyscraper - Cosmic Mind, UFO Romance in the Night(I think that's what it is), and Heian Alien are all my favorites. I can't stop listening to these songs really.


PC-98 games
Of all the games, I only know 3 themes(Well 4 if Yuka's is from this series of games and not just PoFV). These include Reincarnation, Bad Apple, and Complete Darkness. The first two are my most favorite from the PC-98 series while the last one I only heard while looking for remixes for Reincarnation. It was ok, but not my favorite.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ebarrett on March 25, 2010, 03:06:21 AM
PC-98 games
Of all the games, I only know 3 themes
KNOW MOAR
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 25, 2010, 03:10:56 AM
Mystic Square. There are only like 3 songs from it I actually like.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Slaves on March 25, 2010, 01:05:35 PM
Necrofantasia is like playing four ]-[|/34<#! at once.

and that's why it's awesome.
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Post by: Zengeku on March 25, 2010, 02:06:37 PM
KNOW MOAR

Agreed. I normally don't like the PC-98 games (though they have their shiny parts) but their music is very awesome. Axel should go listen to some. At least LLS, MS and PoDD have very memorable music.
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Post by: Helion on March 25, 2010, 04:36:25 PM
Sure, it doesn't get your blood boiling quite like SA's late stages
Wait, what part of Lullaby of deserted hell gets your blood boiling? And as for that: what part of heartfelt fancy, 3rd eye and of orin's theme? The only stage that tries is stage 6 and even then only nuclear fusion manages to be a mild adrenaline rusher.

Necrofantasia's harmony does have a more solid structure to it, I'll give it that, but other factors make it worse (i.e. inferior sound dynamics, instrumentation).
Actually I prefer everything about Necrofantasia: instruments that somehow manage to work all together and all the good parts of Necro Fantasy flowing one after the other, with only one of the annoying 3-note piano "interludes" Necro Fantasy had.
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Post by: Infy♫ on March 25, 2010, 05:06:36 PM
necrofantasia has that dirty, loud synth sound that makes it bad for me. the song itself is nice (ZUN's own arrange is one of the best IMO) and as it shares most of the melody with ran's theme, which doesnt have that horrible instrument, i like ran's theme more.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Arcengal on March 25, 2010, 06:33:54 PM
Wait, what part of Lullaby of deserted hell gets your blood boiling?

The part where Orin mews.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on March 25, 2010, 07:47:16 PM
StB
This game had music?
AGAGHAGHAGAHGAHGAHGAHGAHAGAGHGAGAHGAHAGHGAHGH

Sleepless Night?  Black Eyes?  Retrospective Kyoto?  StB doesn't have much music, but what it does have that isn't Wind God Girl is awesome.
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Post by: theshirn on March 25, 2010, 07:49:21 PM
AGAGHAGHAGAHGAHGAHGAHGAHAGAGHGAGAHGAHAGHGAHGH

Sleepless Night?  Black Eyes?  Retrospective Kyoto?  StB doesn't have much music, but what it does have that isn't Wind God Girl is awesome.
Erm...Retrospective Kyoto is the only track from StB that isn't godawful.  And it's not all that good itself.
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Post by: CK Crash on March 25, 2010, 08:49:27 PM
The problem with StB music is that you subconsciously connect it with the act of replaying spells over and over and over and over until you hate it. Sleepless Night is actually pretty awesome for a spinoff game song.
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Post by: R-9A2 Delta on March 25, 2010, 10:59:18 PM
1: Soul as Red as a Ground Cherry
1B: Apparitions Stalk the Night
2: the UFO one
2B: Umbrella Left There Forever even though I like one part of it
3: Sky Ruin
3B: Candid Friend (although a lot of it sounds amazing)
4: MS's
4B: Forbidden Magic, Crimson Dead
5: LLS's
5B: Till When? (It's decent in PCB though)
6: EoSD's
6B: Lunatic Princess
EX: Both of PCB's
EXB: Tank Girl's Dream
PHANTASMAGORIA: Dream War
FIGHTING: Till When? (SWR) is all that comes to mind. I hate it in SWR. It's tolerable in PCB, but here it's UGGGGGGGH
StB: Wind Tour
DS: Everything except Mystery in Your Town, Mysterious Mountain, and Infinite Nightmare
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Post by: ?q on March 26, 2010, 03:13:37 AM
[What part of SA Stage 5's theme gets your blood boiling?]
The part where Orin mews.
Great answer.

@Yatagarashim:  Sleepless Night is godawful?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 26, 2010, 03:32:00 AM
In-game, yes.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Kefit on March 26, 2010, 04:40:18 AM
I'm not gonna include anything PC-98, as most of the music from that era fails to stick in my head either way. Likewise, UFO layliaylkalykaoaolololyolyolll. Also DS wins every category it is eligible for by a wide margin, so I'll ignore it.

Title Screen: I like them all, couldn't possibly pick a least favorite.
Stage 1: EoSD. PCB's is pretty bad too, but EoSD's makes full game runs painful.
Stage 1 boss: EoSD. Rumia's theme is pretty bad.
Stage 2: EoSD. Not nearly as bad as stage one, but still bad.
Stage 2 boss: PCB. Boring boring boring, and it doesn't really fit Chen.
Stage 3: Toss up between IN and SA. I dunno what ZUN was trying to do with these songs, but it didn't work.
Stage 3 boss: Toss up between IN and SA. See above.
Stage 4: Toss up between EoSD and MoF. Boring. Also boring.
Stage 4 boss: MoF. Why couldn't you just bring back Wind God Girl, ZUN?
Stage 5:  MoF. Not a bad song per se, but pales compared to all the other stage fives.
Stage 5 boss: SA. Absolutely love the SA stage five theme, but the boss theme is weak.
Stage 6: These all do their jobs very effectively. UFO's might even by my favorite. If I had to choose a worst I guess it might be EoSD or PCB.
Stage 6 boss: Toss up between MoF and UFO. Not bad songs, but not as good as the competition.
Extra stage: IN. Boring.
Extra stage boss: SA. Bad way to cap off perhaps my favorite OST.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: hyorinryu on March 26, 2010, 05:51:45 AM
*Steals Kefits format*
Title Screen: Can't choose haven't listened enough
Stage 1: Can't really choose. maybe MoF for too much trumpet, but actually I find it rather fitting.
Stage 1 boss: Rumia's. Because I like the other one better
Stage 2: MoF. Not a fan of it, doesn't seem memorable to me
Stage 2 boss: MoF. didn't really like it
Stage 3: PCB. Just like the other ones better
Stage 3 boss: SA. Like the other ones betters. Doesn't really stand out
Stage 4: IN. Didn't like it that much.
Stage 4 boss: Can't choose. Maybe Aya's
Stage 5:  MoF. Not a bad song per se, but pales compared to all the other stage fives.
Stage 5 boss: PCB. Like it better in the fighters I think
Stage 6: These all do their jobs very effectively. UFO's might even by my favorite. If I had to choose a worst I guess it might be EoSD or PCB.(My thoughts exactly)
Stage 6 boss: PoFV, if it counts, if not, then MoF.
Extra stage: PCB. Doesn't seem that memorable to me
Extra stage boss: Don't really want to choose. maybe EoSD.

haven't played in a while, so some are after listening to some by ear quickly.

Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Axel Ryman on March 26, 2010, 05:57:44 AM
KNOW MOAR

Recommendations then?  :D

AGAGHAGHAGAHGAHGAHGAHGAHAGAGHGAGAHGAHAGHGAHGH

Sleepless Night?  Black Eyes?  Retrospective Kyoto?  StB doesn't have much music, but what it does have that isn't Wind God Girl is awesome.

I only said it cause I don't remember any of the songs on there.  :V
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ebarrett on March 26, 2010, 06:56:41 AM
Recommendations then?  :D
HRtP (http://www.youtube.com/user/tamahagane#grid/user/CD0FF1519A6E496A) has Eternal Shrine Maiden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzOUqOCRXOs). Almost everything else is excellent as well but holy fuck Eternal Shrine Maiden.

SoEW (http://www.youtube.com/user/HalfGhostYoumu#grid/user/ADD418A5792322D0) doesn't have much to be honest - it was developed at the same time as HRtP which got all the awesome music and gameplay. There's the original Love-Coloured Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TD0V_nScAU), though. I like The Tank Girl's Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lBrIl6m6Y) as well but I can see a lot of people... not liking it.

PoDD (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8C9C7F8812E1DAA4) has the best soundtrack in the series, in my opinion. Just listen to the whole thing will ya.

LLS (http://www.youtube.com/user/HalfGhostYoumu#grid/user/456017FCCFC3A047) starts off slow but there are some gems later in the game - the original Maiden's Capriccio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzU3YJD4zpI), Casket of Star (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyuBwZgBCz4), both of Yuka's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_VB7rGt8yk) themes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzyktdw91JA). I don't go crazy for Bad Apple!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpHPENOtY0Y) but most people do. (I go crazy for Lotus Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui1fo8Bddwo) instead)

MS (http://www.youtube.com/user/HalfGhostYoumu#grid/user/D5F12FB5D389AED9) has a few duds but more than makes up for it with the MOTHERFUCKING GRIMOIRE OF ALICE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-UQgTgOtzo) and INFINITE BEING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBzPjmi5xYE) and ALICE IN WONDERLAND (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL1OlzuGQj4) and ROMANTIC CHILDREN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0s0rQlfgTM) and PLASTIC MIND (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDXaDYuYOU) and DOLL OF MISERY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plsYQ8wMDIY) and it's the best game in the series so go play it ok just ignore stage 4's blue bullets on blue backgrounds and you'll be fine until you get raped by Yumeko
[/fangasm]


well, that took a while.
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Post by: Formless God on March 26, 2010, 07:07:27 AM
Dream Express where
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ebarrett on March 26, 2010, 07:08:56 AM
I can't love stage 1 themes, too many first bullet ragequit traumas. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXr0RPrh4Vw) Though that's more of a LLS thing.
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Post by: Axel Ryman on March 26, 2010, 07:44:47 AM
HRtP (http://www.youtube.com/user/tamahagane#grid/user/CD0FF1519A6E496A) has Eternal Shrine Maiden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzOUqOCRXOs). Almost everything else is excellent as well but holy fuck Eternal Shrine Maiden.

SoEW (http://www.youtube.com/user/HalfGhostYoumu#grid/user/ADD418A5792322D0) doesn't have much to be honest - it was developed at the same time as HRtP which got all the awesome music and gameplay. There's the original Love-Coloured Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TD0V_nScAU), though. I like The Tank Girl's Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lBrIl6m6Y) as well but I can see a lot of people... not liking it.

PoDD (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8C9C7F8812E1DAA4) has the best soundtrack in the series, in my opinion. Just listen to the whole thing will ya.

LLS (http://www.youtube.com/user/HalfGhostYoumu#grid/user/456017FCCFC3A047) starts off slow but there are some gems later in the game - the original Maiden's Capriccio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzU3YJD4zpI), Casket of Star (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyuBwZgBCz4), both of Yuka's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_VB7rGt8yk) themes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzyktdw91JA). I don't go crazy for Bad Apple!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpHPENOtY0Y) but most people do. (I go crazy for Lotus Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui1fo8Bddwo) instead)

MS (http://www.youtube.com/user/HalfGhostYoumu#grid/user/D5F12FB5D389AED9) has a few duds but more than makes up for it with the MOTHERFUCKING GRIMOIRE OF ALICE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-UQgTgOtzo) and INFINITE BEING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBzPjmi5xYE) and ALICE IN WONDERLAND (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL1OlzuGQj4) and ROMANTIC CHILDREN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0s0rQlfgTM) and PLASTIC MIND (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDXaDYuYOU) and DOLL OF MISERY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plsYQ8wMDIY) and it's the best game in the series so go play it ok just ignore stage 4's blue bullets on blue backgrounds and you'll be fine until you get raped by Yumeko
[/fangasm]


well, that took a while.

Took a listen and out of all of them I only really liked Eternal Shrine Maiden, Love-Coloured Magic, and Casket of Star(This one only cause I remembered hearing it in SWR and liked that version).
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: theshirn on March 26, 2010, 08:31:19 AM
ebarret, you SUCK for leaving out Maple Wise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOUWaGDi9aY), Alice Maestra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnIqJNpABKs), and Himorogi, Burn in Violet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_oPUHY-0hE).  All Stage 4 themes, all AMAZING.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Slaves on March 26, 2010, 12:53:19 PM

you know, your avatar fits perfectly with every post you make.

i'm not sure if that's a compliment or not, so take it as you like.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 26, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
Eternal Shrine Maiden sounded better in remixes tbh...

Personally I like all of the stage themes in SoEW, and apparently I'm the only one. 
To contrast, the only good boss theme is Mima's.
Tank Girl's Dream:  whaDANGDANGDANGwhaDANGDANGDANGwhaDANGDANGDANGDaaa~ng (repeat)

I personally like the LLS Stage 6 theme.  It's a good theme for "get whatever resources you can because this is definitely the end".
I have to put in a word for Break the Sabbath and Alice Maestra (which is totally better than Romantic Children in spite of being almost the same song).

Mystic Square has Infinite Being, Doll of Misery, and Alice in Wonderland, but that's it. 
Grimoire of Alice is basically "hey I'm playing with intervals and angst chords at full volume".
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Helion on March 26, 2010, 04:47:42 PM
you know, your avatar fits perfectly with every post you make.

i'm not sure if that's a compliment or not, so take it as you like.
What.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Azinth on March 26, 2010, 05:07:51 PM
Personally I like all of the stage themes in SoEW, and apparently I'm the only one. 
To contrast, the only good boss theme is Mima's.

Very much agreed.  Well, stage 5 never really did anything for me.

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and Alice Maestra (which is totally better than Romantic Children in spite of being almost the same song).

wut
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Post by: nintendonut888 on March 26, 2010, 06:41:00 PM
Ebarrett forgot to recommend Strange Oriental Discourse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6GxSN25CTs) from HRtP. In my opinion, it's on par with Eternal Shrine Maiden. The only problem is that it's a tad short...
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ebarrett on March 27, 2010, 12:44:20 AM
ebarret, you SUCK for leaving out Maple Wise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOUWaGDi9aY), Alice Maestra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnIqJNpABKs), and Himorogi, Burn in Violet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_oPUHY-0hE).  All Stage 4 themes, all AMAZING.
Guilty regarding Maple Wise (stage trauma got in the way), not a big fan of Alice Maestra, and Himorogi is great but it's also lifted note-for-note from a Final Fantasy theme. There is a lot of "borrowed" stuff in the series but Himorogi is the worst offender.



The whole thing was pointless anyway since PC-98 haters are still gonna hate and the others are probably going to burn me at the stake  :V (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8745/badend.png)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Gpop on March 27, 2010, 02:24:38 AM
Okay let's do this.

Title: EoSD
S1: EoSD
Boss 1: EoSD
S2: EoSD
Boss 2: EoSD
S3: EoSD
Boss 3: EoSD
S4: EoSD
Boss 4: EoSD
S5: EoSD
Boss 5: EoSD
S6: EoSD
Boss 6: EoSD
EX Stage: EoSD
EXBoss: PCB (U.N Owen is good enough, while Necrofantasy...hurts my ears, although still okay).

Try to guess what game has the worst music IMO. I STILL haven't played SoEW so that's why I haven't said any of them. EoSD suffered from crap instruments.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on March 27, 2010, 04:54:54 AM
*big wall of text*
You forgot Himorogi, Burn in Violet, Judas Kiss, and Perdition Crisis. :V
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ebarrett on March 27, 2010, 05:51:13 AM
I forgot Peaceful Romancer.

 :ohdear:
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on March 27, 2010, 02:19:00 PM
EoSD suffered from crap instruments.

You are shallow as fuck. Poor instrumentation is always acceptable as long as the melody is decent. And EoSD has easily the most memorable melodies in the series.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 27, 2010, 02:22:16 PM
Poor instrumentation is always acceptable as long as the melody is decent.
Without disputing your taste, I think you're in a very small minority here given ZUN+e-trompe.
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And EoSD has easily the most memorable melodies in the series.
Once again...
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Gpop on March 27, 2010, 03:06:24 PM
You are shallow as fuck. Poor instrumentation is always acceptable as long as the melody is decent. And EoSD has easily the most memorable melodies in the series.

Give me ZUN arranges re-mastering the songs and maybe I'll enjoy them. Arranges mean nothing.

Because of these crap instruments, I can't bear to stand them or even remember them.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 27, 2010, 03:51:14 PM
EoSD tracks' melodies are great. They just sound poor in-game, that's all.

And you can't talk about memorable melodies without mentioning PCB, MoF and UFO :<
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Post by: Esoterica on March 27, 2010, 03:53:11 PM
EoSD tracks' melodies are great. They just sound poor in-game, that's all.

And you can't talk about memorable melodies without mentioning PCB, MoF and UFO :<
UFO's skippable.

Not to say its music is bad, but the only three tunes I can remember off the top of my head are the stage themes for 3 and 4, and Shou's theme.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 27, 2010, 03:53:49 PM
It has something to do with which game you got to play first ... again.

Cosmic Mind is most memorable because I've never listened to such an epic track in a while.
I could also say Border of Life if I played PCB first.
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Post by: sera on March 27, 2010, 03:57:08 PM
I forgot Peaceful Romancer.

 :ohdear:

Whoa, someone else likes Peaceful Romancer? It's my favorite staff roll not counting the fighting games, needs more love <3 MS music is great, even though I could never like Spiritual Heaven or Plastic Mind that much.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Gpop on March 27, 2010, 04:08:55 PM
UFO may not have many memorable tracks, but at least it had SOME for me.

The only memorable track I had for EoSD on my first few playthroughs was U.N Owen Was Her.

Remember that this is just my opinion. Don't argue, you won't change my mind.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on March 27, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
It has something to do with which game you got to play first ... again.

Cosmic Mind is most memorable because I've never listened to such an epic track in a while.
I could also say Border of Life if I played PCB first.
True.  That's probably why I like most of EoSD's music.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: nintendonut888 on March 27, 2010, 05:48:30 PM
I admit that EoSD had some bad instruments, but I still like the music, even in-game. Then again, I think ZUNtrumpets have a unique charm to them that proves that it's his music. Real trumpets wouldn't have the same sound to them.
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Post by: Ghaleon on March 27, 2010, 06:03:35 PM
Eosd instrument quality IS a let down, it doesn't bother me much though. I'm curious though, for the people who dislike it fairly significantly (or more) how did you take ff7 instrumentation? I HATE that shit, especially that stupid cheesy muffled hockey organ or WTF it is.


How about pc98 instrumentation, retro sid-chip or whatever sound card music has a certain charm to it for me.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Sen on March 28, 2010, 02:31:22 PM
Decided to make a list!

Stage 1 - Soul as Red as a Ground Cherry (EoSD)
Boss 1 - Apparitions Stalk the Night (EoSD) very dishonorable mention to Tiny, Tiny, Clever Commander (UFO)

Stage 2 - The Bridge People No Longer Cross (SA)
Boss 2 - Deaf to All but the Song (IN)

Stage 3 - Nostalgic Blood of the East ~ Old World (IN)
Boss 3 - CANDID FUCKING FRIEND (MoF)

Stage 4 - The Capital City of Flowers in the Sky (PCB)
Boss 4 - The Youkai Mountain ~ Mysterious Mountain (MoF)

Stage 5 - Mystic Oriental Dream ~ Ancient Temple (PCB)
Boss 5 - Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When? (PCB) dishonorable mention to Lunatic Eyes ~ Invisible Full Moon (IN)

Stage 6 - The Young Descendant of Tepes (EoSD)
Boss 6 - BORDER OF FUCKING LIFE AUGH (PCB)

EX Stage - Last Remote (SA)
EX Boss - NECROFANTASIA (PCB, I'M SAYING IT IN CAPS BECAUSE IT'S VERY VERY LOUD DO YOU GET IT)

Fighter - Oh where do I even start with IaMP.

Photo Theme - Tengu is Watching ~ Black Eyes

Phantasmagoria Theme - Mystic Oriental Dream ~ Ancient Temple (Youmu's PoFV theme)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 28, 2010, 06:47:57 PM
Half that list makes me wonder if you got the wrong topic.

What are you looking for in your BGMs?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Helion on March 28, 2010, 06:49:12 PM
At least I agree with Boss 5
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 28, 2010, 07:04:28 PM
ITT different music tastes

I actually agree with most of that post except for Tiny Ti(ry, CANDID FUCKING FRIEND and Ancient Temple (but Touhou doesn't have any good Stage 5 themes anyway).
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 28, 2010, 07:10:16 PM
Actually rereading it I just jumped because I saw SA Stage 2, PCB Stage 5, and SA Extra and a handful of not-worsts.

I still think answers to the question would be interesting though. 
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What are you looking for in your BGMs?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 28, 2010, 07:11:59 PM
*cough*Ancient Temple is the only good one, and only when remixed*cough*
I'm sick of that loop after midboss!Nazrin.

Besides, On the Verge of Madness is superior BV
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Gpop on March 28, 2010, 08:14:45 PM
It has something to do with which game you got to play first ... again.

Funny. EoSD was the first game I played (excluding IaMP). I still find it hard to remember some of the songs >.>

But I won't disagree that the first games you play USUALLY have the most memorable.

Eosd instrument quality IS a let down, it doesn't bother me much though. I'm curious though, for the people who dislike it fairly significantly (or more) how did you take ff7 instrumentation? I HATE that shit, especially that stupid cheesy muffled hockey organ or WTF it is.


How about pc98 instrumentation, retro sid-chip or whatever sound card music has a certain charm to it for me.

PC-98 instrumentation has an awesome nostalgic feel. EoSD does not give me any good vibes at all.

I never played FF7 :V

Anyways, it doesn't matter if it's MEMORABLE, as this topic states what music is BAD in your opinion. I might remember a song for it's horribleness >.>
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Sen on March 28, 2010, 08:39:55 PM
Actually rereading it I just jumped because I saw SA Stage 2, PCB Stage 5, and SA Extra and a handful of not-worsts.

I still think answers to the question would be interesting though.

A lot of that list was "wellll, nothing in this category is really bad, so I'll go with the weakest one." For example, I don't think Last Remote is a bad song, but I find it very dull. Same for Bridge People No Longer Cross. The only songs on there that I really, really hate are Candid Friend, Border of Life, and Ancient Temple.


Ehhhh...I don't know what I really "look for" in BGMs, since I'm not hugely into music. Whatever's fun to play to, I guess.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on March 29, 2010, 12:25:19 AM
*cough*Ancient Temple is the only good one, and only when remixed*cough*
I'm sick of that loop after midboss!Nazrin.
Which game features Ancient Temple and Nazrin again?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on March 29, 2010, 05:18:07 AM
It never occurred to me that so many people hate PCB Stage 5. Why is this?

List without usage of PC-98 (aside from PoDD):
Stage 1: IN
Stage 1 Boss: IN
Stage 2: IN
Stage 2 Boss: IN (I don't hate IN music, I swear.)
Stage 3: MoF
Stage 3 Boss: SA
Stage 4: IN (None of the Stage 4 themes are actually bad, though.)
Stage 4 Boss: EoSD
Stage 5: MoF
Stage 5 Boss: SA
Stage 6: UFO
Stage 6 Boss: EoSD (I like all of them, but hurrr)
Extra Stage!!: IN
Extra Boss!!: UFO
PoDD: Rikako's Theme
PoFV: Reimu's Theme
IaMP: The Maid and the Pocket Watch Remix
SWR: The Doll Maker of whatever Remix. Screw you, Tasofro. You ruined a good song.
Soku: Beloved Tomboyish Girl, because they didn't make Cirno's theme be a remix of Lunate Elf to troll everybody. But whatever, soku doesn't really have any bad songs that weren't taken from SWR.

I never realized how unmemorable IN's music was before :x It's not bad but it just doesn't stand out.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Minch on March 29, 2010, 09:09:28 AM
Only Windows ver. because I don't know PC-98 Games well.

Title Screen: PoFV
ST1: IN (It doesn't really bother me in-game but I just don't like)
ST1B: EoSD
ST2: UFO
ST2B: PCB (Sleep Inducing and it makes the stage a joke)
ST3: IN (It's only good part is the first 15 sec and the rest is just history)
STB3: MoF (I really laugh at this being a boss song. Its a great song but not a good choice for a boss song.)
ST4: IN
STB4: PCB
ST5: SA (sleep inducing)
STB5: MoF
ST6: SA
STB6: EoSD (It gets boring after a while and then annoying)
EX: SA
EXB: PCB Necro-Fantasy (It only sounds better in about 3/4 of the song.)
StB: Wind God Girl (The Trumpets are really annoying in this particular song)
Fighting: UNL-Cirno's theme

That's all I have down. EoSD is my first game in touhou but please, it's soundtrack needs some efficient work.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ark on March 29, 2010, 09:18:12 AM
I'm only choosing from 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12. I'm hoping this will be somewhat fair, since I made a list for each one and I'm showing the bottom two. A lot of these are really close.

Title: EoSD, but it's close. It's not particularly bad, but I can't say it's better than any other. (Second: IN)
Stage 1: IN. (Second: UFO)
Boss 1: PCB. It's otherwise not that bad (none are, in my opinion), but from 0:23 to 0:36 there's something that sounds like terrible compression artifacts (even though it's probably not) that I find uncomfortable to listen to. (Second: UFO)
Stage 2: EoSD. (Second: UFO)
Boss 2: EoSD. (Second: UFO)
Stage 3: UFO. (Second: EoSD)
Boss 3: UFO. (Second: EoSD)
Stage 4: EoSD. (Second: IN)
Boss 4: IN Marisa. (Second: MoF). I actually quite like all of the 4th boss themes, but these ones ended up on the bottom of my list.
Stage 5: EoSD. (Second: IN)
Boss 5: EoSD. (Second: IN)
Stage 6: UFO. Boring. (Second: PCB)
Boss 6: EoSD. (Second: UFO). Again, I like every final boss theme, but these two I like just a bit less than the rest.
Ex Stage: UFO. (Second: EoSD)
Ex Boss: EoSD. Why is this one so popular? (Second: PCB Ran)
Ending: UFO. I could fall asleep on this one. (Second: SA)
Credits: EoSD. (Second: UFO)

Overall, of these 6, I'd say EoSD has the worst music, followed very closely by UFO. Also, all of the music in EoSD sounds extremely flat (in pitch) so that doesn't help.

I didn't find most of the StB or DS music very memorable (although there were a couple of nice ones). I don't like the DS version of Aya's MoF theme. (The original was much better.)

I didn't count PoFV in this list, but it's probably down there with UFO overall (although it had a couple good ones). I'm not familiar enough with it to say which ones from it are the worst, though.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Formless God on March 29, 2010, 12:36:15 PM
Which game features Ancient Temple and Nazrin again?

I was replying to Van Helion's post, which uh, disappeared soon afterwards for some reason.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Helion on March 29, 2010, 12:45:44 PM
I was replying to Van Helion's post, which uh, disappeared soon afterwards for some reason.
My post talked about Rural Makai City Esoteria being a good stage 5 theme, countering someone who said that there are none, and I removed it because it sounded far too polemic. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Zondac on April 02, 2010, 12:15:32 PM
Why do everyone hate Flandre's theme that much? Seriously, I think it's a good theme overall, and I find Mokou's theme ALOT worse!
Either there's something I haven't been told, or you guys just really hate Ran ran ru to the point where you don't even like the song it's based on, and if that's the case then you're really childish.. But enough of that, HAVE AT YOU.

No seriously, U.N. Owen was her was a great theme, but if you don't like it I guess it's understandable..
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on April 02, 2010, 12:45:49 PM
Why do everyone hate Flandre's theme that much?
Sounds creakier and screechier than all the other songs in the game with EoSD's bad instrumentation, isn't particularly exciting as much as it is brute-force, is underdone by ZUN standards, and everyone else seems to love it for all the wrong reasons.

--

Just realized a while ago that everyone's pick for Stage 5 Boss is wrong.  Everyone should have picked Concealed the Conclusion.

To answer your next question, I find RoHL's music kind of amusing.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Bananamatic on April 02, 2010, 12:49:43 PM
To answer your next question, I find RoHL's music kind of amusing.
Periphery of Power's EX theme has nothing you could possibly dislike as well.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Alice Fact on April 02, 2010, 01:09:14 PM
What is the PoP music like? Touhou remixes [that are stolen?] or unrelated songs [that may be stolen?]?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on April 02, 2010, 01:14:02 PM
What is the PoP music like? Touhou remixes [that are stolen?] or unrelated songs [that may be stolen?]?
Unrelated songs [that were stolen].  From what I remember, the [contraband] soundtrack was considered the best thing about the "game".

IIRC PoP's extra theme was a remix of Meiling's theme and was actually fairly good.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Bananamatic on April 02, 2010, 01:28:08 PM
Are you sure? :V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om4EvqoEpVM)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on April 02, 2010, 01:34:08 PM
Why do everyone hate Flandre's theme that much? Seriously, I think it's a good theme overall, and I find Mokou's theme ALOT worse!
Either there's something I haven't been told, or you guys just really hate Ran ran ru to the point where you don't even like the song it's based on, and if that's the case then you're really childish.. But enough of that, HAVE AT YOU.

No seriously, U.N. Owen was her was a great theme, but if you don't like it I guess it's understandable..
There's nothing particularly interesting about it and it's overrated as hell. 
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Zondac on April 02, 2010, 02:24:00 PM
There's nothing particularly interesting about it and it's overrated as hell. 

Why yes, there is something interesting about it, let's start with the intro, shall we?
The intro really is like a completly different song, and start of being hectic right of the bat (As in, the song is hard in Audiosurf), something that isn't that usual for songs overall, especially seeing how the main song actually is slower than the intro (BPM-wise). The song is also supposed to portray a psychotic, and this it does indeed, because the song is pretty close to being madness-inducing itself.
Even though it's not alot it's still enough to make the song interesting. :V

And the song being over-rated does not make it bad, it just got the popularity I think it deserved. It was one of the songs that first introduces me to the Touhou-series (The other ones being Cirno's theme and Bad Apple, yes I am average). You guys just don't like the fact that things you like get popular, even though you should actually be happy about it, because there's no other way of bonding that works better than common interests, and if the series become more popular you will get more people to bond to, something that overall would be a good thing ^_^

You kinda remind me of the people over at gametrailers. When something they like get to popular they start hating it. :/

EDITED:

I still don't judge you for doing that though, it's kinda normal, everybody does it :))
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on April 02, 2010, 02:30:18 PM
You kinda remind me of the people over at gametrailers. When something they like get to popular they start hating it.
Except I didn't even like it when I was just getting into Touhou.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Zondac on April 02, 2010, 02:32:24 PM
Except I didn't even like it when I was just getting into Touhou.

You may be right there, but still, the song is good, we just have different tastes :D
I hope we can ignore our differences and still HEY BRO, WHAT's YOUR STEAM? WANNA PLAY TF2?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on April 02, 2010, 02:37:27 PM
You may be right there, but still, the song is good, we just have different tastes :D
I hope we can ignore our differences and still HEY BRO, WHAT's YOUR STEAM? WANNA PLAY TF2?
That's the point of these threads; rage at other peoples' musical tastes and ADD ME BRO (http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esoterica), MAYBE WE CAN PLAY LATER TODAY BUT I'LL BE BUSY FOR THE NEXT 2-3 HOURS.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Zondac on April 02, 2010, 02:42:56 PM
That's the point of these threads; rage at other peoples' musical tastes and ADD ME BRO (http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esoterica), MAYBE WE CAN PLAY LATER TODAY BUT I'LL BE BUSY FOR THE NEXT 2-3 HOURS.

I do seriously not believe you should rage at other people opini- I'M TOTALLY ADDING YOU NOW OH MY GOD THIS IS GONNA BE RAD
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on April 02, 2010, 05:07:54 PM
It was one of the songs that first introduces me to the Touhou-series (The other ones being Cirno's theme and Bad Apple, yes I am average). You guys just don't like the fact that things you like get popular, even though you should actually be happy about it, because there's no other way of bonding that works better than common interests, and if the series become more popular you will get more people to bond to, something that overall would be a good thing ^_^
Off topic a little, but I think you're average for just the newer Touhou cultists. 
The BAD Apple!! arrange was actually good; those before you had to deal with Overdrive and Marisa Stole the Precious Thing in addition to McRoll.  In other words, you lucked out :p
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Radaxen on April 02, 2010, 05:19:35 PM
I don't know if I'm different but I really like IN and MoF's music. MoF especially, I can't pick a tune I don't like from stage 1 to Suwako's theme, except for maybe the Extra Stage theme, and the stage 1 theme. I'm planning to learn all of MoF's music and play it on piano.

I first found out about Touhou via Mcroll, and first thing I noticed while trying to avoid getting hypnotised by that clown was that the background music was interesting. So I went to search for it and found U.N. Owen was her?, and thought it was a kickass theme. However, as I came to know more and more themes, U.N. Owen was her? just slipped all the way down, and as I come to analyse its musical structure I find that it's much less complicated than it seems.

I, for one, really like Eirin's IN theme (not the voyage 1970), it may sound pretty unappealing at first due to its main part sounding very chinese or something, but I found the structure and instrumentation fascinating. Mokou's theme might be slightly repetitive, but there is a sort of enigmatic feel to it that makes it a great piece.

I don't know much about UFO, PoFV and PC-98 games, so I can't really judge. Though I have to say, I really dislike most of the fighting games' boss theme remixes. Other than Patchouli's, Iku's, Tenshi's and Utsuho's themes, the rest give me a reason to switch off BGM while playing Hisoutensoku. They might fit a fighting scenario, but otherwise, I'd prefer the originals much more.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on April 02, 2010, 05:30:36 PM
SoEW, definitely. I really don't like any of the music from that game. All except Marisa's theme.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on April 02, 2010, 06:38:34 PM
SoEW, definitely. I really don't like any of the music from that game. All except Marisa's theme.
Himorogi, Burn in Violet?  Extra Love/The Tank Girl's Dream?  Complete Darkness?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: orinrin on April 02, 2010, 06:57:22 PM
Faith is for the Transient People is by far, the worst Stage 5 Boss theme.


However, the metal remixes make it fairly nice.


Now watch as I get shot down by people who can't accept differing opinions.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on April 02, 2010, 07:11:07 PM
Faith is for the Transient People is by far, the worst Stage 5 Boss theme.


However, the metal remixes make it fairly nice.


Now watch as I get shot down by people who can't accept differing opinions.
Since I heard the metal remixes before the in-game theme, I can wholeheartedly agree with that.

Of course, the amazing stage theme beforehand also makes it sound underwhelming by comparison.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: ?q on April 02, 2010, 07:26:57 PM
At first everyone was like "OMG For a Person of Transient Faith" because it had a real rock feel to it, but after a while (and a retranslation) people kind of meh-d away from it.  It's a bit shallow for what it is.  Just like U.N.Owen

The stage theme is a lot better if you have a high tolerance for ZUN trumpet.  It's really a good theme, but not a good showing for the e-trompe.

Also CtC Boss 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdJJwrgPZI0&feature=related) for reference.  Till When? like you've never heard it before.  Plus they threw in a blue note for some reason.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on April 02, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
Himorogi, Burn in Violet?
If you want to hear Final Fantasy VI's boss music, play Final Fantasy VI.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Ghaleon on April 02, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
I like u.n. Owen, but I can respect other people disliking it... But uninteresting!!!??? honestly, the genre of music used to describe the song is pretty much non-existant. The reason why I can understand people disliking it is because it's weird.

I of course enjoy it for many reasons pointless and ot to mention. But I had to say the above.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on April 02, 2010, 07:50:11 PM
Himorogi, Burn in Violet?  Extra Love/The Tank Girl's Dream?  Complete Darkness?
Complete Darkness I like a *tiny* bit...
But the others are just somewhat meh-ish forme...
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on April 02, 2010, 08:40:37 PM
I like u.n. Owen, but I can respect other people disliking it... But uninteresting!!!??? honestly, the genre of music used to describe the song is pretty much non-existant. The reason why I can understand people disliking it is because it's weird.

I of course enjoy it for many reasons pointless and ot to mention. But I had to say the above.
How do you feel about Forsaken Doll?
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: hyorinryu on April 05, 2010, 06:52:58 PM
I wish more people would talk about Centennial Festival. It's underrated IMO. What I'd like to know is what people see in Dark Road, it sounds so generic to me.
Also, ADD ME! (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198008112067)
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Esoterica on April 05, 2010, 08:34:19 PM
I wish more people would talk about Centennial Festival. It's underrated IMO. What I'd like to know is what people see in Dark Road, it sounds so generic to me.
Also, ADD ME! (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198008112067)
I love both of those, they're two of my favorite stage themes OKAY ADDED
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Critz on April 05, 2010, 10:57:37 PM
Title: PCB
Stage 1: SA. I don`t get UFO hate. "At the End of the Spring" got me right into the game.
Boss 1: UFO by far. At least Yamame`s theme in SA is dynamic.
Stage 2: SA. Uninspiring.
Boss 2: IN. Nothing special.
Stage 3: Do I really have to choose? UFO then. For some reason I like "Chinese Tea" (EoSD) a bit too much. Nostalgia?
Boss 3: UFO. Other ones are at least great.
Stage 4: Again would be a damn hard choice if not for UFO. MoF isn`t that great either.
Boss 4: EoSD. Sorry, Patchy.
Stage 5: IN. One of a few songs I don`t really like in IN.
Boss 5: MoF. I really want to like Sanae`s theme, but I find it boring. EDIT: I like Lunatic Eyes more than I thought :p
Stage 6: Again freaking hard choice. SA...
Boss 6: Oh God 0_0. UFO, if I have to. For some reason I can`t bring myself to say "Border of Life" or "Nuclear Fusion" more than Emotional Skyscraper.
Ex Stage: IN. Not my taste.
Ex Boss: UFO.
Not really heard enough of credits themes.
Overall: UFO.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: J.O.B on April 06, 2010, 01:54:11 AM
Title: IN
Stage 1:  PCB
Stage 1 Boss: IN
Stage 2: SA
Stage 2 Boss: PCB
Stage 3: EoSD
Stage 3 Boss: UFO
Stage 4: EoSD
Stage 4 Boss: MoF
Stage 5: PCB
Stage 5 Boss: SA
Stage 6: SA
Stage 6 Boss: IN Kaguya
Extra: IN
Extra Boss: None I like all of them
Phantasmagoria: Tie between Youmu and Medicine
Overall: IN
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Ghaleon on April 09, 2010, 08:27:40 AM
How do you feel about Forsaken Doll?

Sorry for super late reply.

Forsaken doll is ok. I find the music in pofv in general to be really disapointing, if Zun's quality for the song was boosted like it is for the rest of the series in comparison (IMO) it might be quite good.

As it stands forsaken doll is *MUCH* tamer than Flan's theme. Flan's theme is weird and experimental, and is almost on the verge of being too chaotic to even be called music. Yet it IS music, I really enjoy it.

Forsaken doll doesn't really impress me with a melody that really seems to come across as gutsy, not at all.

I think liking Flan's theme also has to do with how you heard it for the first time. I first heard it when I was actually fighting flan for my first time. The music communicates "OMG IM SO FUCKED...But this is fun!" kinda. Which doesn't really make sense when you're just browsing some website listening to it as much. That impression also might not hit you as hard if you're already experienced with many Touhou games before actually reaching Flan.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Gpop on April 09, 2010, 11:31:55 PM
I wish more people would talk about Centennial Festival. It's underrated IMO. What I'd like to know is what people see in Dark Road, it sounds so generic to me.
Also, ADD ME! (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198008112067)

I find it quite the opposite :V.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Treasurance on April 10, 2010, 07:54:19 AM
PoFV. Seriously, only decent new song there is Wind God Girl...and maybe Flowering Night.
Title: Re: Which game has the WORST music?
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on April 10, 2010, 04:50:21 PM
Are people still wanking over Fate of Sixty Years...? cause I just listened to that again and I remembered why I hated it. This theme's boring to shit yo!