the folks at thwiki were not able to put on the contest this year, so for the Touhou Nico Dousai, we have some new hosting!I assume it has to do with this?
Quick tip to those who want to vote now: Go to Touhou wiki and search up your favourite characters. Their profiles should have their names in kanjis. Copy them and paste on the right box if I understand the progress right.If not,t en you can still insert them there to compare the names on the list.The right box is for comments. If you only put things there I don't think it'll do anything. You have to use the menu on the left.
Also, music list also can have same song if they have appeared in multiple games. So if you like one version of particular song, keep that in mind.
The right box is for comments. If you only put things there I don't think it'll do anything. You have to use the menu on the left.I did say that if not, then just put it there so that you can compare the names on the list to find the right name.
I wonder if Reimu and Marisa would ever out of top 10Byakuren managed to do it with her BGM to take a top 3, though based on characters themselves, that is always a huge guess. And taking Reimu's throne? That requires guts!
Can Kokoro take the throne in such a short time? :3
Problem is, this is not the 10th Popularity Contest at all. It is simply Touhou Popularity Contest, hosted by Touhou Nico Dousai, no relation to the THWiki one.Oh? Needs clarification on this. Is there a THwiki 10th contest? Because now we are hearing different things.
If you call this "the 10th", what do you call THWiki's 10th proper contest?
"Touhou Popularity Contest" is an entirely separate and different project from THWiki's delayed "The 10th Touhou Series Popularity Contest", and is not its replacement event.Emphasis theirs.
Cuc, crystal clear explanation. So I assume thwiki is going to hold their voting sometime in the future?
I assume that we cannot consider this voting contest official then and cannot be compared with previous results? I am doubting the situation now. Or am I over-thinking too much?
The voting contest will be attracting a slightly different pool of voters due to different methods of publicity, in general creating a skew towards the Nico community. Having said that, I wouldn't discount this poll's results entirely. It should be interesting to see what the differences are like.That is exactly my worries and more like speculative outcome. It cannot be compared with previous voting contests since it is not the same. Also kind of weird why Nico Dousai would start such a voting contest with the exact same method as Thwiki has been doing. Has there been any official communication or announcements made between the two?
Anyway, can someone edit the OP to clarify that this is not the THWiki 10th popularity contest but instead the Touhou Nico Dousai popularity contest?
I think it's due to the number of voters in this contest compared to the "proper one"That is highly doubtable. I wouldn't consider this a 10th voting contest. We need to imo clear this in the opening.
Since they're all surveys, voting contest so if both have similar quantity then it's ok. There will be differences of course, since they may or may not attract different range of people. Let's see what the result will be. If Hakurei Reimu is not in top 3 then I'll celebrate.
That is exactly my worries and more like speculative outcome. It cannot be compared with previous voting contests since it is not the same.Based on views and comments on Nico (Nicopedia article, video announcing the poll), there still seem to be many people who don't know that this is being held. There's a push (though not led by any group in particular) to promote the poll on Twitter; I've been seeing tweets and RTs from popular video creators that they voted. There were comments dated 6/10 that they found out about the poll on Twitter, so hopefully the word is getting out.
Also kind of weird why Nico Dousai would start such a voting contest with the exact same method as Thwiki has been doing. Has there been any official communication or announcements made between the two?No. The Nico Dousai organisers seem to be doing it because hey, why not? and the usual organisers at Thwiki haven't said anything. (The last announcement is from December saying no poll this year.) It makes sense to me for Nico Dousai to use the same method (it'd be interesting to see how say increasing the number of characters you can vote for would affect the result, but you wouldn't be able to assess that effect well anyway since the sample will be different). The partner category is their way of trying something new.
The response to the new poll, among those who do know about it, seems to be positive overall (though there's a minority that don't like the partner category).What's wrong with the Partner category? I like the fact that it's so vague. You could think of in terms of shipping, shot types, how well they get along in canon, how well they work in Manzai comedy, whatever. Two characters you like seeing together for whatever reason.
What's wrong with the Partner category? I like the fact that it's so vague. You could think of in terms of shipping, shot types, how well they get along in canon, how well they work in Manzai comedy, whatever. Two characters you like seeing together for whatever reason.Sorry, I edited the post above. People didn't like the "Coupling" category (there were apparently some inflammatory comments, though I haven't looked hard enough to find them), so it was changed to the more neutral "Best partners."
Sorry, I edited the post above. People didn't like the "Coupling" category (there were apparently some inflammatory comments, though I haven't looked hard enough to find them), so it was changed to the more neutral "Best partners."Oh, I see. I think I would have been one of the people complaining then. ;)
鈴仙・優曇華院・イナバ - Reisen Udongein Inaba
レイセン - Reisen
There are two Reisens?Yes, the one called Reisen, or Reisen II, first appears in Silent Sinner in Blue. Apparently she is another lunar rabbit soldier from the moon, but with no specific powers(?).
Yes, the one called Reisen, or Reisen II, first appears in Silent Sinner in Blue. Apparently she is another lunar rabbit soldier from the moon, but with no specific powers(?).For the record, since her name is spelled differently in Japanese (in katakana, like a foreign name), I've always been in favor of calling her Raysen instead of Reisen II, but it's way too late to get that to stick.
暮色蒼然 - Darkening Dusk
For the record, since her name is spelled differently in Japanese (in katakana, like a foreign name), I've always been in favor of calling her Raysen instead of Reisen II, but it's way too late to get that to stick.Judging from things like SWR's patch history file, the method favored by ZUN and company seems to be using "Udonge" for Reisen U. I., and leave "Reisen" exclusively to the second Reisen.
Kinda worried that they separate the music in different games, Cosmic Mind have 3 for example. I wonder if they'll combine the votes for them...
Now, I'm curious to see what's the results for this poll so far.
...in hindsight, I wish I picked Momiji & KagerouThe poll doesn't have Kagerou anyway, since it doesn't include DDC characters. It does have Kokoro though.
Has it already ended or what ?Voting ended on the 16th, but I thought it was supposed to be announced on the 30th. Since it's being tallied by computer though, it shouldn't really take any time to count so I wouldn't be surprised if the results were leaked.
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remilia alice koishi reimu marisa aya flandre sakuya youmu satori tenshi sanae mokou yuuka momiji nitori yuyuko yukari patchouli kokoro meilingfixed
Didn't expect Remilia to win.it
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wasfate
Fixed that for ya.(http://i.imgur.com/QoZPfI7.png)
remilia alice koishi reimu marisa aya flandre sakuya youmu satori tenshi sanae mokou yuuka momiji nitori yuyuko yukari patchouli kokoroIf this is true holy fuck Koishi your popularity really did increase.
If this is true holy fuck Koishi your popularity really did increase.now shes confirmed op :V
...pun probably intended :V
Best Partner : Yakumo Yukari and Hijiri Byakuren
An odd one, I know. Well, it's because of a certain doujin...
OK, normally I wouldn't care but seeing as who it is, I have to ask.
remilia alice koishi reimu marisa aya flandre sakuya youmu satori tenshi sanae mokou yuuka momiji nitori yuyuko yukari patchouli kokoroDidn't expect Satori to be so high up :o
Didn't expect Satori to be so high up :oSatori was already 10th in the 2012 THWiki popularity poll. By my analysis she could be anywhere between 7th to 16th in this one.
| Name | Low points | High points | Low rank | High rank |
| Remilia | 4775 | 5979 | 5 | 1 |
| Koishi | 4769 | 5939 | 5 | 1 |
| Alice | 4711 | 5904 | 6 | 1 |
| Reimu | 4404 | 5566 | 7 | 1 |
| Marisa | 4354 | 5494 | 7 | 1 |
| Aya | 4231 | 5392 | 8 | 1 |
| Flandre | 3906 | 5007 | 10 | 4 |
| Sakuya | 3787 | 4886 | 11 | 6 |
| Youmu | 3489 | 4582 | 14 | 7 |
| Satori | 3499 | 4541 | 14 | 7 |
| Tenshi | 3392 | 4400 | 15 | 8 |
| Sanae | 3130 | 4166 | 15 | 9 |
| Yuuka | 3066 | 4060 | 17 | 9 |
| Mokou | 3038 | 4055 | 17 | 9 |
| Momiji | 2996 | 3983 | 18 | 11 |
| Nitori | 2639 | 3593 | 20 | 13 |
| Yukari | 2664 | 3589 | 19 | 13 |
| Yuyuko | 2598 | 3550 | 20 | 13 |
| Patchouli | 2404 | 3318 | 22 | 16 |
| Kokoro | 2289 | 3116 | 26 | 16 |
| Meiling | 2141 | 3007 | 29 | 19 |
| Kogasa | 2098 | 2946 | 29 | 19 |
| Byakuren | 2014 | 2818 | 32 | 20 |
| Cirno | 1953 | 2814 | 33 | 20 |
| Utsuho | 1955 | 2756 | 33 | 20 |
| Renko | 1947 | 2756 | 33 | 20 |
| Parsee | 1908 | 2729 | 34 | 20 |
| Rumia | 1802 | 2623 | 35 | 21 |
| Hina | 1797 | 2615 | 35 | 21 |
| Nue | 1752 | 2494 | 36 | 22 |
| Ran | 1707 | 2501 | 38 | 22 |
| Futo | 1720 | 2467 | 38 | 23 |
| Suwako | 1627 | 2387 | 41 | 23 |
| Reisen | 1589 | 2335 | 42 | 25 |
| Mystia | 1523 | 2273 | 43 | 28 |
| Nazrin | 1474 | 2185 | 44 | 28 |
| Miko | 1424 | 2123 | 47 | 30 |
| Iku | 1412 | 2132 | 47 | 30 |
| Hatate | 1393 | 2060 | 48 | 33 |
| Eiki | 1336 | 2053 | 50 | 33 |
| Rin | 1330 | 2026 | 50 | 33 |
| Daiyousei | 1316 | 1999 | 50 | 33 |
| Suika | 1239 | 1919 | 51 | 35 |
| Mamizou | 1216 | 1855 | 51 | 36 |
| Shou | 1158 | 1812 | 51 | 36 |
| Seiga | 1153 | 1784 | 52 | 37 |
| Kaguya | 1140 | 1794 | 52 | 37 |
| Kasen | 1135 | 1766 | 53 | 37 |
| Maribel | 1104 | 1721 | 53 | 39 |
| Keine | 1078 | 1723 | 55 | 39 |
| Minamitsu | 1001 | 1605 | 59 | 43 |
| Shizuha | 895 | 1500 | 63 | 45 |
| Akyuu | 877 | 1482 | 63 | 45 |
| Kanako | 843 | 1448 | 63 | 46 |
| Wriggle | 831 | 1440 | 64 | 46 |
| Ichirin | 810 | 1381 | 65 | 49 |
| Kyouko | 818 | 1350 | 65 | 51 |
| Koakuma | 784 | 1345 | 67 | 51 |
| Yuugi | 780 | 1335 | 67 | 51 |
| Minoriko | 740 | 1290 | 68 | 51 |
| Lunasa | 718 | 1263 | 68 | 52 |
| Komachi | 714 | 1253 | 68 | 52 |
| Chen | 712 | 1222 | 69 | 52 |
| Yamame | 632 | 1132 | 72 | 54 |
| Tojiko | 635 | 1100 | 72 | 55 |
| Kosuzu | 603 | 1085 | 72 | 56 |
| Medicine | 583 | 1090 | 73 | 56 |
| Eirin | 553 | 1043 | 73 | 58 |
| Lyrica | 515 | 998 | 73 | 60 |
| Letty | 506 | 977 | 73 | 61 |
| Tewi | 486 | 916 | 73 | 64 |
| Yoshika | 474 | 919 | 73 | 64 |
| Yumemi | 417 | 856 | 77 | 64 |
| Yorihime | 319 | 701 | 81 | 71 |
| Lunasa | 317 | 690 | 81 | 71 |
| Rinnosuke | 302 | 684 | 82 | 71 |
| Alice's dolls | 288 | 678 | 85 | 71 |
| Shinki | 275 | 633 | 86 | 73 |
| Star | 257 | 616 | 87 | 73 |
| Merlin | 240 | 599 | 87 | 73 |
| Kisume | 200 | 542 | 88 | 74 |
| Lily | 180 | 513 | 88 | 74 |
| Gengetsu | 177 | 501 | 89 | 74 |
| Sunny | 174 | 489 | 89 | 74 |
| Toyohime | 174 | 489 | 89 | 74 |
| Mugetsu | 172 | 477 | 90 | 74 |
| Mima | 154 | 460 | 92 | 76 |
| Unnamed book-reading youkai | 119 | 414 | 97 | 79 |
| Reisen II | 93 | 345 | 99 | 81 |
| Mai | 94 | 331 | 99 | 81 |
| Yumeko | 79 | 342 | 103 | 81 |
| Kana | 76 | 329 | 103 | 82 |
| Kotohime | 67 | 326 | 103 | 82 |
| Fairy | 62 | 312 | 104 | 82 |
| Leila | 58 | 299 | 104 | 84 |
| Elly | 57 | 269 | 104 | 87 |
| Chiyuri | 57 | 269 | 104 | 87 |
| Unzan | 41 | 268 | 109 | 87 |
| Ellen | 39 | 253 | 109 | 88 |
| YuugenMagan | 26 | 237 | 109 | 88 |
| Kurumi | 22 | 222 | 118 | 89 |
| Yuki | 22 | 222 | 118 | 89 |
| Tsuchinoko | 22 | 222 | 118 | 89 |
| Hobgoblin | 13 | 206 | 118 | 89 |
| Genjii | 7 | 190 | 118 | 89 |
| Rikako | 7 | 190 | 118 | 89 |
| Youki | 7 | 190 | 118 | 89 |
| Kappa | 5 | 174 | 118 | 90 |
| Sake bug | 5 | 174 | 118 | 90 |
| UFO | 2 | 141 | 148 | 95 |
| Crow/raven | 2 | 141 | 148 | 95 |
| Konngara | 2 | 141 | 148 | 95 |
| Sara | 2 | 141 | 148 | 95 |
| Eientei youkai rabbits | 2 | 141 | 148 | 95 |
| Meira | 2 | 141 | 148 | 95 |
| Kedama | 2 | 141 | 148 | 95 |
| Sariel | 2 | 141 | 148 | 95 |
| Moon rabbit | 2 | 141 | 148 | 95 |
| etc. | 0 | 106 | 148 | 99 |
The analysis methodology is available on request.Yeah, I'd like to hear it. The numbers are pointless without knowing how you got them.
First Place: Remilia
FIRST PLACE: REMILIA
I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE OFFICIAL RESULTS BUT
IS REIMU FINALLY BEATEN!?!?!?
TY ARCO~
LIVE RESULTSFour misses so far out of 21. I was wondering what kind of accuracy I would get.
70 45-63 Hieda no Akyuu
69 64-77 Yumemi Okazaki
68 56-73 Medicine Melancholy
67 52-68 Lunasa Prismriver
66 39-53 Maribel Hearn
65 55-72 Soga no Tojiko
64 64-73 Yoshika Miyako
63 64-73 Inaba Tewi
62 71-82 Rinnosuke Morichika
61 51-68 Minoriko Aki
60 54-72 Yamame Kurodani
59 51-67 Koakuma
58 58-73 Eirin Yagokoro
57 45-63 Shizuha Aki
56 51-65 Kyouko Kasodani
55 43-59 Minamitsu Murasa
54 52-69 Chen
53 33-48 Hatate Himekaidou
52 51-67 Yuugi Hoshiguma
51 49-65 Ichirin Kumoi
50 46-63 Kanako Yasaka
You're behind the times. These are based on the exit poll conducted last week.... *brb crying*;;
Any results for the musics?http://nicodosai.com/vote/result/music
58 Eirin Yagokorokeep it up, fandom
50 Kanako Yasaka
49 Komachi Onozuka
45 Seiga Kaku
44 Suika Ibuki
43 Rin Kaenbyou
41 Mamizou Futatsuiwa
36 Kaguya Houraisan
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48 Daiyousei
37 Hina Kagiyama
30 Rumia
25 Kogasa Tatara
20 Momiji Inubashiri
LIVE RESULTS
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3 Marisa Kirisame
2 Koishi Komeiji
1 Reimu Hakurei
I've created a wiki article (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Nico_Dousai_Popularity_Contest), which may give the music list a better overview. It's a start.You need a medal.
Questionnaire: "What are your favorite parts about Touhou?" Despite multiple votes, "the gameplay" and "the story" are two of the least liked.
very disappoint
Questionnaire: "What are your favorite parts about Touhou?" Despite multiple votes, "the gameplay" and "the story" are two of the least liked.
very disappoint
Edit: I wonder what facilitated Renko massively outranking Maribel. Can't imagine how that happened.
^Don't we all.
OK, not meaning to attack people or anything, but seriously can someone explain to me why Momiji is so popular. I barely even know anything about her, considering she's a dialogue-less midboss. I'm definitely not mad about her keeping Byakuren out of the top 20 or anything >:(
^Don't we all.One of the reasons I can think of is she's the first inumimi character to show up before Inu-Sakuya came in. Not to mention that she's often paired with the popular Aya, that should raise her popularity. This also applies to the cast of EoSD.
Renko's outfit is far more stylish, duh.
OK, not meaning to attack people or anything, but seriously can someone explain to me why Momiji is so popular. I barely even know anything about her, considering she's a dialogue-less midboss. I'm definitely not mad about her keeping Byakuren out of the top 20 or anything >:(
Isn't it sad, Tojiko?
That was my vote. ;_;Too bad, Kilga. I know that feel. Mine didn't fare any better, only 1 vote, by me....(┛?__?)┛彡┻━┻
Too bad, Kilga. I know that feel. Mine didn't fare any better, only 1 vote, by me....(┛?__?)┛彡┻━┻I was one of those people who voted for it. :V
Though I wonder how can it even lose to MikoFuto...those guys really need to delve deeper into the story...
For partner, I actually voted SuiKasen. I want to go hug that ONE other guy who also put that down. We are probably just way ahead of our time. Warmly waiting for more Wild and Horned Hermit. :Vi'm the one that voted that
Koishi taking second place? THAT I didn't see coming.Japan's obsessed with emotionless girls, it seems =P (well, Kokoro isn't emotionless, but she looks so)
Similarly Kokoro making 14th even though she's been around for a month is pretty ridiculous.
My thoughts on the results:She's at hax-level, has lots and lots of themes and is totally calm about everything (well, mostly). What's not to love?
1 Reimu Hakurei 6430 23.5% 3.95% 827 Expected, but I kinda find her overrated.
I DISAGREE WITH SATORKOI57'S OPINIONS AND COMMENTS ON THE CHARACTERS AND THEIR RANKINGShey man, just because he has a different opinion than you doesn't mea
39 Nazrin 1501 14.5% 0.92% 186 Hey, Rat, can't you be more interesting to me. And if you can't tell, UFO is my least favorite Windows game.oh
30 Rumia 2000 26.45% 1.23% 268 Cute, but creepy. Funny, but somewhat horrifying.She is not one bit creepy, she just wants a hug...
Plus it introduced slut (Sanae) as a playable characterI know OPINIONS and all that but
tbh, I like every character. I just prefer some a bit more than others. :3 I understand some people have dislikes and stronger preferences, but there's no need to argue.Pretty much the same for me. If there is something I hate, it is some of the characters from the "popular" fanon view. I were close to hating characters like yuuka/flandre/kaguya just because of their dumbed down fanon versions.
Yuuka staying so high despite her repulsive personality kind of puzzles me too.Because she's Youkai moe~
Yuuka staying so high despite her repulsive personality kind of puzzles me too.
Scarlets' place was obvious considering their doujin backing. Now, if someone could only explain what is it with Wriggle being so low? She's full forty places below Rumia despite being IMO far more memorable and actually pretty nice and hardworking (the bug service campaign) :derp:.
Why has this thread become "Why is this character so popular despite the fact that I don't completely love them therefore they are disgusting and overrated Ugh" so much?does this really require an answer
Y'all know Koishi should've been #1
Nope, Reisen for the win!
This man knows what he's talking about.I'm a girl. :derp:
fuk dat slut RaymooGladly
Let me just edit my post then, sorry. The typical internet rule is that if you don't know the gender assume it's male.Or check the profile.
Right. Even better then Reisen.ftfy
Everybody knows that Reimu is #1 due to she's the main character! :trollface:Never heard of a better reason. :V
Sanae replaced Mokou, Kaguya, Nitori and Wriggle (All of which were scrapped) in Hisoutenko and was made weak because "weak characters are funny".I can guarantee that you are making things up and/or received this blatantly absurd information from people who were making things up.
Merely just one of the reasons I call Sanae a "slut". Plus it killed my love for Cirno for good. She is pretty much barely makes it off my Top 30 Touhou characters (She's number 30 now).
Sanae replaced Mokou, Kaguya, Nitori and Wriggle (All of which were scrapped) in Hisoutenko and was made weak because "weak characters are funny".1. I have heard that rumor, but I don't think it was that Sanae "replaced" them. I can't really see Sanae as not being in unl, as she played quite a large role in it.
Merely just one of the reasons I call Sanae a "slut". Plus it killed my love for Cirno for good. She is pretty much barely makes it off my Top 30 Touhou characters (She's number 30 now).
ZUN said in a radio interview that Wriggle Nightbug and Nitori Kawashiro were originally slated to appear in the game, but were scrapped due to time restraints. Kaguya Houraisan and Fujiwara no Mokou were also considered, but it was decided that they were too strong. [1] Instead, Twilight Frontier decided to put in mostly weak characters, as they would humorously face off against the very powerful characters featured in Immaterial and Missing Power (most every mainstream character was featured there). Sanae Kochiya was added instead of these possibilities, and perhaps made as weak as she is on purpose.They didn't get scrapped because of Sanae, but because of "time restraints" and "being too strong". These are idiotic reasons, true. The "weak characters" they meant are Cirno and China, as Suwako and Okuu are even higher on the list than Sanae, so as far as I'm concerned, that was just an excuse for Tasofro's lazyness. :wat: So please, stop attacking Sanae for every character that could have appeared instead of her, because that's how ZUN planned it and because it's idiotic. Hell, Sanae herself did not appear in HM despite it being the one game where she should be a heroine.
The "weak characters" they meant are Cirno and China
"replaced" would indicate that a character has substituted another that was already placed in the game or its previous installment or unpatched version or whatever.
"put in instead" means that the creators decided use one character rather than another one.
I'm not sure if this is the best place to discuss memes. The fact remains that Sanae made it to top 10. And I doubt she has slept with the judges of the poll to get there.Nah she slept with all those guys that voted for her. Brilliant, I say.
Aren't spell card battles specifically designed to be non-lethal in canon anyway? If they wanted to, they could have implemented something like a spell card that regains some of the HP upon knockout for that last chance to win (something Kaguya already does in IN).
Resurrection is relevant because it's intrinsic to the characters at hand, as much as fantasy seal or master spark or gap manipulation is to their respective characters. Their moveset needs to feel like Mokou and Kaguya, and be a full mechanic much like Sanae's wind or Suwako's weird movement; we can't just put it in as a spellcard because Soku's mechanics mean that it's possible for them to not have it, and it just feels sloppy when compared to characters that have a full-representation, not just a token spellcard. Not to mention that such an easy 'I don't lose yet' button would be in stark contrast to all the other 'healing' options in Soku which have ridiculous recoveries, and if we're to give their resurrection cards such recovery then the whole point is moot; just punish again into a full-damage combo. It's needless extending of a round, not to mention a waste of meter. They could've given them much higher HP, but since they decided that everyone needs the same HP total then that options out.
Drake explains why I can't think of any way to implement Kisume or Parsee. Some characters are just too simplistic, some characters' powers don't translate well into a fighting game, etc. Which is why putting a character into a fighting game isn't as easy as it seems unless the characters were created with fighting games already in mind, which Touhou wasn't, and from a developer standpoint it's far simpler to just put in characters that don't require so much headache; ie recent characters and or well established ones with powers and or abilities that are simple to translate into fighting game mechanics. I don't think Mokou would be too simplistic though, as I can very easily see her moveset. It's just the whole 'hey I'm immortal' thing is a mind boggler. Give her a much lower health bar but multiple lives? And whenever she loses a life bar she disintegrates and reappears where she wishes? Who knows. It even applies to other games like DotS; Trance would agree with me that Kaguya and Mokou's state of balance have been dramatic, to say the least.
Is "Slutnae" a forced meme or something? From the ways you are responding to my Sanae posts, I would think yes.
And seriously, guys, what's with the "weaker character in Soku" crap? A character is only as good/as weak as the player controling her. If you suck, it's not Sanae's fault. Really.
But China was in IAMP as well, and the wiki stated they wanted weak characters to face the "stronger" ones. Couldn't they just bring Meiling back and put a weaker character from the same game (EOSD)?
Why are we even talking about fighting games anyway, when this thread is focused on a popularity poll?Because the words slut and Sanae were used in the same sentence.
Actually, I think that Okuu counts more as a "sun themed" character than a "fire themed" one. As for Mokou, you could simply have her burst into flames and stuff, and even give her a trick that lets her explode and then reform almost immediately. That could work, maybe?