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Title: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: xJeePx on December 08, 2012, 01:36:41 pm
After all those years of waiting, the complete pack of English patches for the PC-98 generation of Touhou games is finally done!

I would like to express my gratitude to everyone who helped me finish this project, and I hope that it will encourage more people with no knowledge of Japanese to play these games and endear the PC-98 Touhou games, music and characters to more Western fans. Happy grazing and see you next project!

Trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmWNuuZPRMk

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Credits:

Text, image, and overall file editing: xJeePx

Recompiling, string relocations, exe hacks (ReC98), GRF and CDG converters: Nmlgc

Translation: Nazerine, Arknarok, DarkSlime, Polaris, Zorak, N-Forza

Special thanks: Nmlgc, Nazeo, BluePhoenix, Radical_R, Prime 2.0, xarnonymous, Arcorann, Agent of BSoD, Nintendonut888, Zil, Jaimers, and many other people, and you...

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Download:

https://www.mediafire.com/?yxcg7mvg1lj1i6g

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Installing the patches, setting up the emulators, etc:

Just follow the instructions located in the Images folder in the archive (I would recommend opening the images with your Internet browser to match the original resolution; it would be much easier for you to read and scroll through. Just open your Internet browser and drag and drop the images to it one by one). You can find all the links in the readme.txt in the archive.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: Daverost on December 08, 2012, 02:47:28 pm
Oho~. Good work. I can't help, but good luck!
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: Arcorann on December 15, 2012, 07:31:29 am
1) .PI is a common format for ending images and backgrounds.

I have the PI image decompressor (thanks, mauve), but PNG to PI converter is needed to repack redrawn images back into PI format.
I downloaded such a program a while back. ViX is a Japanese program that can convert both PNG to Pi and Pi to PNG. Download it here. (http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/win95/art/se083112.html)
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: xJeePx on December 16, 2012, 12:00:02 am
I downloaded such a program a while back. ViX is a Japanese program that can convert both PNG to Pi and Pi to PNG. Download it here. (http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/win95/art/se083112.html)
I tried replacing some backgrounds and as a result the game glitches up and freezes. Although, piread recognizes converted redrawn images just fine.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8394/piatt.png
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: Desu_Cake on December 18, 2012, 10:59:02 pm
What happens if you convert a pi to a png then back without editing it?
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: xJeePx on December 28, 2012, 12:31:41 am
Update!

I'm finally able to edit the text I had problems with:
(http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/846/stts.png)

Also, CDG converter is WIP.

What happens if you convert a pi to a png then back without editing it?
Pretty much the same thing. The game freezes when you get to the image you were trying to convert (the image itself is also corrupted).
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: Krssst on December 31, 2012, 05:12:06 pm
More info on PI image file format here : http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_(%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F%E5%9C%A7%E7%B8%AE)
(Google Translate is your friend (and was mine)).

Could it be that the original PI files were in 16 colors and that you converted your edited PNG files to 256 colors PI files ?

I found another PI file reader (for Windows 3.1), but nothing more... http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dl/win31/prog/se037610.html

EDIT: this software (http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dos/art/se002524.html ; DOS (probably should be run with Dosbox)) seems to be able to convert BMP images to PI images.
EDIT: http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA003760/ (WML) is provided with its source code. If I feel extremely brave one day, perhaps I could try to understand how the PI file format works from the source code and try to write a converter (from a PPM file, easily obtained from a PNG file with The GIMP or ImageMagick).
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: Bohoy on January 10, 2013, 12:50:42 pm
I really think the "HARRY UP" message should be left that way.  It's part of the charm of the game and I laugh every time I see it. :)
Anyway it's really awesome that someone finally decided that english Touhou fans deserve the original games as well!
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: Nazeo Aelko Nezen on January 11, 2013, 04:49:28 pm
Well, with thpatch's Patch Stacking (http://thpatch.net/wiki/Touhou_Patch_Center:Patch_stacking) feature, you would not be forced to choose.

While we will translate everything there is to be translated, you can always disable the modification of any piece of data in the game. So yes, your HRtP games can come in flavors of HARRY UP or without~

----

And it just so happens that we from thpatch.net are working with xJeePx on this project. Which means that this will not only be an English patch, but also support any language people want to have it in, without any additional middlemen or hacking effort, using the same engine.

For now, this means that we're first focusing on adding multilingual text support, and the images have to wait for a while.

In order to facilitate all our plans, we've started to add debugging (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hjjs2y3s3p6ikez/Debug-20130105.png) facilities (https://www.dropbox.com/s/lutx2y36rlel59m/Debug-20130106.png) to Neko Project II (Xnp2, to be exact).

For those interested, here are the binaries of our modified emulator (http://thpatch.net/wiki/Neko_Project_II_-_Debug_Edition), and here's the source code (https://github.com/nmlgc/np2debug).

Currently, our plan is as follows:
* Add enough debugging functionality to Neko Project II for convenient reverse engineering. These would be:
** ✔ single-step execution
** ✔ code breakpoints
** ✔ Shift-JIS memory display
** ✔ memory searching
** ✔ memory modification
** ✔ memory breakpoints
** ✔ stack viewer
** ✔ read emulated files from a directory instead of using .hdi images
** assembly modification by actually writing assembly mnemonics (wouldn't be worth the effort)
* Port existing thcrap engine to PC-98
* Create danmaku removal patches for testing purposes
* Figure out the dialog limit problems
* Now having enough knowledge on the text formats (both hardcoded and in the data files), make all text available for multilingual translation on thpatch.net
* Add support for proportional and Unicode text output for all three methods of PC-98
* Set up the thpatch.net server part for patch installation and automatic updating. This also serves the necessary binary modifications in an open-source format. (Actually, this part should have been done long ago, shame on us)
* At this point, we'll take a month off to finish the work on the multilingual Windows game patches.
* Put up all images for translation and convert them back

* Write a nice setup
* Make all of that work with .hdi

So yeah, we're still looking at a few months of work.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on January 11, 2013, 08:29:21 pm
Ooh, now that looks interesting. I wouldn't mind having some of the games re-patched. The older games have older translations that have been revised now. I'll definitely be watching this. Good luck guys!
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are almost completed!)
Post by: Daverost on January 12, 2013, 05:17:59 pm
So yeah, we're still looking at a few months of work.

Hard as it is to see "a few months," it's certainly better than the several years it's already been.

Good luck!
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Nazeo Aelko Nezen on February 04, 2013, 05:32:07 pm
So, an update on the recent progress!

We've made quite some progress with our Neko Project II modifications (http://thpatch.net/wiki/Neko_Project_II_-_Debug_Edition). 2/3 of the debugging functions estimated are implemented now.

Most importantly, we can now directly modify emulated memory - e.g. to edit hardcoded strings on the fly:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33350662/Photos/Debug-20130203.png)

With these features, we were already able to find and fix the much anticipated "HARRY UP". And well... when hardcoding strings is not enough, how about hardcoding the rendering call of every single character using its position in the font ROM?

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33350662/Photos/Debug-20130203-HARRY.png)
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: cuc on March 06, 2013, 01:43:35 pm
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/win95/art/se083112.html
I asked our local old Touhou/Seihou expert, and he says this tool can convert to and from .PI. I haven't had time to look at it.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Nazeo Aelko Nezen on March 17, 2013, 09:56:37 pm
Quote from: #thcrap
Mar 17 15:11:00 <Nmlgc>   Alright! I now have plans for hacking all three methods of PC-98 text output. Time for a new announcement on Shrinemaiden.
Mar 17 15:11:36 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   OK!
Mar 17 15:12:04 <Nmlgc>   Do you want to try your hand at writing again? :-)
Mar 17 15:12:08 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   ( And I hope you can write this one b/c I suck when it comes to explaining the patching process- )
Mar 17 15:12:13 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   I can trrrrry.
Mar 17 15:13:26 <Nmlgc>   Looks like it will be a long road if we want to have proportional fonts and/or Korean text support - both of which are basically the highest possible achievements when it comes to this.
Mar 17 15:14:09 <Nmlgc>   Of course, with me being all serious about this, I won't go for anything less.
Mar 17 15:14:50 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   :D
Mar 17 15:15:21 <Nmlgc>   I'll first start with porting the existing thcrap engine to PC-98, though.
Mar 17 15:15:57 <Nmlgc>   As soon as this is done, the engine will also be open-sourced.
Mar 17 15:16:08 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   That's sort of cool to have "backwards" compatibility all in one engine :)
Mar 17 15:16:36 <Nmlgc>   It comes at a price though. Memory.
Mar 17 15:17:30 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   How much? Is it significant?
Mar 17 15:17:36 <Nmlgc>   There will be no way to stuff the engine, the JSON loader, the custom fonts and the C runtime in that little amount of DOS' 640 KB of conventional memory the games leave unoccupied.
Mar 17 15:18:05 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   And really, you can create a "bare-bones" engine for the people who are concerned, right?
Mar 17 15:18:22 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   Like, I know you hate the idea of having more than one engine but...
Mar 17 15:18:25 <Nmlgc>   Probably not.
Mar 17 15:18:27 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   Mm.
Mar 17 15:18:57 <Nmlgc>   Because even with a empty TSR in conventional memory, the games refuse to start.
Mar 17 15:19:20 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   ...
Mar 17 15:19:22 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   >:C
Mar 17 15:19:38 <Nmlgc>   Which means we have to use the higher memory areas, and this can only be reliably done with DOS 5.0 or higher... and this is kind of a problem, because the .hdi images everyone has only come with DOS 3.3.
Mar 17 15:20:15 <Nmlgc>   So we'd have to bundle DOS 5.0 with the patch, which is kind of legally questionable...
Mar 17 15:20:40 <Nmlgc>   The FreeDOS PC-98 port is not an option either because it doesn't even run the Touhou games.
Mar 17 15:20:52 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   Oh dear... it's the DOS that makes it questionable?
Mar 17 15:22:08 <Nmlgc>   Well, yeah. It's old, but still copyrighted by Microsoft, as far as I'm aware.
Mar 17 15:22:31 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   http://www.amazon.com/DOS-5-0-Disk-Operating-System/dp/B0015YVBSA
Mar 17 15:22:32 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   :/
Mar 17 15:22:52 <Nmlgc>   We need the version for PC-98...
Mar 17 15:23:59 <Nmlgc>   Otherwise, we could just do it like all the emulator programmers.
Mar 17 15:24:07 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   What's that~?
Mar 17 15:24:15 <Nmlgc>   "You need DOS 5.0 or later to run the patches, but we're not gonna bundle it, search it for yourself"
Mar 17 15:24:26 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   XD
Mar 17 15:27:15 <Nmlgc>   Also, if a bare-bones engine had been fine, xJeePx would have just released his WIP patch.
Mar 17 15:27:32 <Nmlgc>   It was him who asked for more space in the dialogs, remember? :-)
Mar 17 15:27:32 <Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen>   Ah, it was just a thought.
Mar 17 15:27:36 *   Nazeo_Aelko_Nezen nods
Mar 17 15:28:26 <Nmlgc>   So, the porting will take a while because I used lots of native Windows APIs -.-
Mar 17 15:28:27 *   You are now known as Nazeo
Mar 17 15:28:57 <Nazeo>   Ah... lots of conversions then.
Mar 17 15:29:40 <Nmlgc>   http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb773559%28v=vs.85%29.aspx << Most convenient functions ever.
Mar 17 15:30:20 <Nmlgc>   Also, 32-bit vs. 16-bit, etc.
Mar 17 15:31:38 <Nazeo>   There's... 16bit?
Mar 17 15:32:20 <Nmlgc>   Some assembly-related code needs to accommodate for 16-bit, which is what the PC-98 is.
Mar 17 15:32:34 <Nazeo>   Ah...
Mar 17 15:34:41 <Nmlgc>   And this entire process will pause one month before Reitaisai because we need to get the Windows stuff ready for Touhou 14
Mar 17 15:35:11 <Nazeo>   Ah, okay.
Mar 17 15:44:05 <Nmlgc>   http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13903.msg953831.html#msg953831 << That guy posted the same tool that Arcorann posted 3 months before...
Mar 17 15:44:23 <Nmlgc>   ... the one that didn't work.
Mar 17 15:44:31 <Nazeo>   Ouch.
Mar 17 15:44:37 <Nmlgc>   And we need an open-source solution anyway.
Mar 17 15:44:55 <Nmlgc>   But maybe we could even bypass the .PI format.
Mar 17 15:47:43 <Nmlgc>   ... yeah, just intercept the loader and feed a .BMP file instead.
Mar 17 15:48:07 <Nazeo>   That sounds the most useful since I think .PI was phased out.
Mar 17 15:48:47 <Nmlgc>   PNG won't be feasible because the decompressor would take up too much space, and those images don't have alpha channels anyway.
Mar 17 16:08:45 <Nmlgc>   I'll be off in a couple of minutes, so if you're writing anything...
Mar 17 16:08:53 *   Nazeo nods
Mar 17 16:09:50 <Nazeo>   If you do leave, I'm not posting until you see it :U
Mar 17 16:10:12 <Nmlgc>   You can include this screenshot if you like: https://twitter.com/thpatch/status/313053071955595264/photo/1
Mar 17 16:11:16 <Nazeo>   I think I will.
Mar 17 16:11:21 <Nazeo>   Because pics are nice.
Mar 17 16:19:58 <Nmlgc>   About the Korean text support... I view this more as a benchmark of overall Unicode support.
Mar 17 16:20:42 <Nazeo>   Rather than progression, got it.
Mar 17 16:21:38 <Nmlgc>   And if we want more space in the dialogs, we could just aim for proportional fonts from the beginning.
Mar 17 16:21:48 <Nazeo>   I don't know why, but I'm having trouble wording the text output thingy.
Mar 17 16:21:52 <Nazeo>   And oh.
Mar 17 16:21:57 <Nazeo>   So I'll split that up.
Mar 17 16:22:22 <Nmlgc>   That's because there's no way to circumvent the 8 pixel text grid without hacking the emulator.
Mar 17 16:23:55 <Nazeo>   Oh.
Mar 17 16:24:34 <Nmlgc>   So we'd have to write our own text renderer anyway if we wanted to use fonts which are smaller than 8 pixels in width.
Mar 17 16:24:46 <Nazeo>   Is this what we want to do?
Mar 17 16:25:13 <Nmlgc>   Well, if 8 pixels had been enough, xJeePx wouldn't have complained.
Mar 17 16:25:39 <Nazeo>   Oh dear.
Mar 17 16:28:27 <Nazeo>   And I drew a blank -.
Mar 17 16:28:29 <Nazeo>   *-.-
Mar 17 16:31:53 <Nmlgc>   You know what? Just copy-paste the log.
Mar 17 16:32:03 <Nazeo>   Got it :U
Mar 17 16:32:17 <Nmlgc>   Maybe pretty it up a little, make things a bit more clear, etc.
Mar 17 16:32:49 <Nazeo>   Will do. I'll also invite people to #thcrap as well. Get some communal peeps in~
Mar 17 16:33:02 <Nmlgc>   So yeah, for all lurkers out there:
Mar 17 16:33:16 <Nmlgc>   As you see, we'll be doing this in the most serious way imaginable.
Mar 17 16:44:56 <Nmlgc>   inb4 "do you really expect to get Korean translators"
Mar 17 16:45:10 <Nmlgc>   I have one at my disposal.

So yes, things are looking good, and in addition we are open for questions and the like on #thcrap (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#thcrap) on freenode (http://irc.freenode.net)~
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: grgspunk on March 21, 2013, 10:26:44 am
"You need a BIOS to run this emulator, but we're not gonna bundle it, search it for yourself"

How will this work? Does this mean we'll need a DOS emulator on our PCs to run the games with the patches? We can't just use T-98 Next?
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Nazeo Aelko Nezen on March 23, 2013, 09:04:59 am
Ah... We already thought that this wording was bound to cause confusion. That BIOS statement was supposed to be a part of the comparison to other emulators, and not directly relating to our patches. In our case, this "BIOS" is a copy of DOS 5.0 for PC-98. You would have to copy it onto each .hdi to use the patches.

Basically, when you play the Touhou PC-98 games in any emulator, you emulate a game running on top of DOS running on top of the PC-98 architecture. So we should probably more correctly refer to them as "the DOS Touhou games for PC-98" instead of just "the PC-98 Touhou games".

Anyway, fixed the post above, it should be clear now.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: grgspunk on March 29, 2013, 02:49:09 am
Ah... We already thought that this wording was bound to cause confusion. That BIOS statement was supposed to be a part of the comparison to other emulators, and not directly relating to our patches. In our case, this "BIOS" is a copy of DOS 5.0 for PC-98. You would have to copy it onto each .hdi to use the patches.

Basically, when you play the Touhou PC-98 games in any emulator, you emulate a game running on top of DOS running on top of the PC-98 architecture. So we should probably more correctly refer to them as "the DOS Touhou games for PC-98" instead of just "the PC-98 Touhou games".

Anyway, fixed the post above, it should be clear now.

So you have to use something like EditDisk to overwrite the .hdi files within the game's image files then.

If that's the case, it's just like using Prime's TH02 patch.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Arcorann on April 05, 2013, 05:19:39 am
I worked out what the problem was with the PI files. If you open a PI file in a hex editor, at offset 4 there are two bytes defining pixel aspect ratio. In the original PI files they are 00 00, while the files outputted by ViX have 01 01. For some reason the games don't like this, despite the fact that both convey exactly the same information. Changing the bytes back makes the image work.

...OK, so there may be other problems (http://i.imgur.com/gfJhfRZ.png), but you can get around those, right?
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: xJeePx on April 13, 2013, 06:04:46 pm
I worked out what the problem was with the PI files. If you open a PI file in a hex editor, at offset 4 there are two bytes defining pixel aspect ratio. In the original PI files they are 00 00, while the files outputted by ViX have 01 01. For some reason the games don't like this, despite the fact that both convey exactly the same information. Changing the bytes back makes the image work.

...OK, so there may be other problems (http://i.imgur.com/gfJhfRZ.png), but you can get around those, right?
Thanks a lot! I fiddled around with it a bit and everything seems to work just fine:

(http://i.imgur.com/1w8VwdU.gif)
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Mayson on April 30, 2013, 12:00:33 pm
Good work you have done there, I'm cheering for you. :3
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Arcorann on July 09, 2013, 09:22:02 am
.CDG format (along with other formats like .KAO or .BMT) files usually contain various game sprites (characters, bosses, bullets, etc.)

There was a PC-98 Touhou plugin for graphic viewer Susie (Touhou Sprite Susie Plug-in by h0shu), but unfortunately, it's lost along with developer's web site. The only thing remained is a screenshot from h0shu's blog:
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/h0shu/20071226

Someone reuploaded it a while back: http://coolier.sytes.net/th_up4/index.php?id=5433 (http://coolier.sytes.net/th_up4/index.php?id=5433)
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Ciel on July 12, 2013, 01:53:42 pm
Oooh, can't wait for this! I really like your graphic editing too, it's really cute!

It'll no doubt take a while, but good luck! 8D
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Nazeo Aelko Nezen on July 13, 2014, 12:31:09 am
Hey everyone, just posting to say that static English patches have been created and will be released next week.

We are doing a live playthrough (http://www.twitch.tv/thpatch) on our stream with all of the patches right now!

Thanks to xJeePx for doing the majority of the work, they did a good job~

Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Validon98 on July 13, 2014, 03:32:08 am
Wow, I can't believe they're actually done now. Wow.
Also I just poked my head in for a second into the stream just to see. I assume those lines on the side of the screen are the files being accessed, and won't be there in the final product. Also uh... the save stating constantly is meant to test the max play rank text... I assume?
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Serela on July 13, 2014, 03:39:37 am
The lines were from a big bug-out occurring in some text and messing up the game; it lasted for the duration of that playthrough. This stream is more like a playtest of all the patches, from what I can tell, rather than simply a showing off. (I think the savescumming was just because they felt like it? Making sure to 1cc isn't the same as saving every few seconds)
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Nazeo Aelko Nezen on July 13, 2014, 03:48:18 am
Yup, just a playthrough to test all the patches before final release!

Savestates is just a habit Nmlgc has :P
That starts at the Evil Eye Sigma.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Failure McFailFace on July 17, 2014, 02:49:13 am
So, when will the patches be released?
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Romantique Tp on July 17, 2014, 03:02:23 am
In the week from July 14 to July 20 it seems.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Nazeo Aelko Nezen on July 17, 2014, 04:22:36 pm
Correct!

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33350662/thpatch/th03%20Result%20Final.png) illustrates the technical side done, all we are waiting for is xJeePx to do the final proofreading, quality control, and write the installation instructions.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: MasaakiKagura on July 17, 2014, 10:21:35 pm
Can't wait to download and see these patches in action.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on July 18, 2014, 07:08:06 am
It's been a long time coming. I can't actually believe these will finally have an English patch. So much hype, I can't wait.
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Alcoraiden on July 30, 2014, 05:30:33 pm
Oh frabjous day!

Except it's next-next week now ;) Where will these be released, when they are?
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Nazeo Aelko Nezen on July 31, 2014, 06:20:07 am
Just waiting on xJeePx to finish proof-reading~
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: Failure McFailFace on July 31, 2014, 11:22:21 am
Just waiting on xJeePx to finish proof-reading~

Soon™ .

(Stolen from the KSP forums)
Title: Re: PC-98 Touhou English patches (are in active development)
Post by: xJeePx on August 03, 2014, 08:47:25 am
Sorry for the wait, everyone. Bug fixing is a long and boring process.  :flamingv:

But now we're done! The Complete English Patch Pack for the PC-98 generation of Touhou games is finally finished! Download links are in the first post.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Romantique Tp on August 03, 2014, 10:54:48 am
You're awesome.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Tengukami on August 03, 2014, 11:30:54 am
Indeed, you are awesome. Looking forward to trying this out!
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on August 03, 2014, 11:19:09 pm
Whoo, can't wait to try these out when I have some time!

I really still need to revise that guide. Eventually...
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Soul Devour on August 04, 2014, 01:51:46 am
Thank you so much for all this. It's been a long time coming and I for one am really grateful for all the work you guys have done.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Baron_Blade on August 04, 2014, 05:16:00 am
As friggin' amazing as this is, anything that isn't gameplay becomes a staticy mess that sometimes freezes for no reason. Is there a known cause? This happens only with the patching in MS and LLS in both Anex86 and Neko Project.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: YagamiLight7 on August 04, 2014, 08:18:59 am
As friggin' amazing as this is, anything that isn't gameplay becomes a staticy mess that sometimes freezes for no reason. Is there a known cause? This happens only with the patching in MS and LLS in both Anex86 and Neko Project.

Something kind of similar is happening to me. HRtP and SoEW work perfectly, but the other three... PoDD is a black screen with a title theme, LLS crashes the emulator, and MS freezes when I get to the title screen. I know for a fact that the unpatched games work, since I play the hell out of MS as much as I can. I followed the installation instructions as accurately as I could, tried multiple emulators, and redownloaded the games multiple times. Nothing is working. If system info is needed, I'm running Windows 8 in Japanese locale, and I've tried using Neko Project 2 fmgen and T98-Next.

EDIT: Got PoDD and LLS working. Still having some issues with Mystic Square, however. I've managed to figure out that Main.exe and Maine.exe are the files that are freezing the game, as it's only when I throw either or both of them in that the lock-up occurs. Anybody know what to do? ???
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Mikuri on August 04, 2014, 09:35:03 am
As friggin' amazing as this is, anything that isn't gameplay becomes a staticy mess that sometimes freezes for no reason. Is there a known cause? This happens only with the patching in MS and LLS in both Anex86 and Neko Project.

I had the same problem with LLS and MS for Anex, Neko, AND T98Next. All I did was re-patch the two and it completely fixed the static problem. Hope it works for you.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I did not re-patch the original hdi. I redid/reapplied the patch on the ones with static.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Baron_Blade on August 04, 2014, 12:13:07 pm
I had the same problem with LLS and MS for Anex, Neko, AND T98Next. All I did was re-patch the two and it completely fixed the static problem. Hope it works for you.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I did not re-patch the original hdi. I redid/reapplied the patch on the ones with static.

Thanks for the help! The games work fine now.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Gamer251 on August 07, 2014, 11:21:03 am
Shouldn't be "Alice Margatroid" be Alice?  ???
I mean Alice was know as just Alice in the PC-98 Games.
Margatroid was introduced in PCB...
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Esper on August 08, 2014, 09:30:04 am
Horyshet i love you
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Gamer251 on August 10, 2014, 01:51:31 am
Also, can you change the font used in T98-Next?
It displays "W" as "<"
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Validon98 on August 10, 2014, 02:42:24 am
That's been a problem with T-98 Next even before the English patches. I don't think there's a solution, or if there is, I don't know it.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 10, 2014, 02:47:53 am
Indeed, it was a problem when testing on Anex 86 as well. It's unfortunate, but once you get used to it it won't slow you down at all. That's the magic of mental substitution! /o/
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on August 13, 2014, 05:09:27 am
I also had to double patch LLS and MS. (and HRtP multiple times because for some reason, EditDisk didn't like me editing that one)

I use the T98-Next font.rom for the font file in NP2 simply because it's easier to read than the provided font files. There's no difference between "h" and "m" in those bmp files and the font overall looks a little messy. I haven't noticed any problems with the English patches with that rom file either so far.

I did notice something odd. While reading through the text in PoDD with Reimu during the dialogue parts, certain parts scroll the text very slowly. It's not a big deal but it appears that only segments are supposed to do that, after watching a Youtube video to confirm. On the patched version, it seems to stick for quite a few lines of dialogue. Looks like whatever trigger that sets the text speed is being skipped. Again, not that big of a deal, just a minor annoyance.

EDIT: Found a problem. Was playing LLS on hard with homing Reimu (NP2 if that makes any difference). After failing stage 6, after the fade out, I got a STOP error.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pak [03/08/2014]
Post by: Houraigami on August 19, 2014, 04:10:08 pm
This is the best day ever :,D
But, I Have some questions.
1.- How did you edit the .GRP files from HRtP?
2.- How did you Edit the Text from the Images?
 :)
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: MaronaPossessed on October 12, 2014, 01:41:29 am
Sorry to necro this thread, but I have a problem.

I tried to patch LLS and play it on Neko Project 2. It plays flawlessly, but it won't display the endings at all. It just stops the emulator with the red text and japanese characters and STOP.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Goomba98 on October 23, 2014, 10:22:20 pm
The games are quite laggy on Neko Project 2 during the bullet-intensive portions, any way to fix that?
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: xJeePx on October 29, 2014, 05:53:11 am
Sorry for the late reply, guys. A lot has been happening IRL, and I wanted to take a nice break after all the work.

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Shouldn't be "Alice Margatroid" be Alice?  ???
I mean Alice was know as just Alice in the PC-98 Games.
Margatroid was introduced in PCB...

Well, just "Alice" would be more accurate to the original. However, as you might have noticed, I used the character introduction system similar to Windows games (character title / character name) for a variety of reasons, and since Alice's last name is already established, I just thought "Why not?"; it's the same character, after all.

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Also, can you change the font used in T98-Next?
It displays "W" as "<"
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That's been a problem with T-98 Next even before the English patches. I don't think there's a solution, or if there is, I don't know it.
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Indeed, it was a problem when testing on Anex 86 as well.
This can be fixed. ;)
Since quite a lot of people wanted Anex86 and T-98 Next versions that fix the Ws and Vs glitch, I'll include those in the next version of the pack I'm working on.

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I use the T98-Next font.rom for the font file in NP2 simply because it's easier to read than the provided font files. There's no difference between "h" and "m" in those bmp files and the font overall looks a little messy. I haven't noticed any problems with the English patches with that rom file either so far.
T-98 Next FONT.ROM is essentially Anex86 .BMP font file (which is included in the archive). And yes, it's easier to read than the default Neko Project font. :)
I've included them both to have some alternatives to choose from, but maybe it wasn't necessary? I should update the instructions a bit regarding this.

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I did notice something odd. While reading through the text in PoDD with Reimu during the dialogue parts, certain parts scroll the text very slowly. It's not a big deal but it appears that only segments are supposed to do that, after watching a Youtube video to confirm. On the patched version, it seems to stick for quite a few lines of dialogue. Looks like whatever trigger that sets the text speed is being skipped. Again, not that big of a deal, just a minor annoyance.
I didn't change the text code much. Will look into it.

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Found a problem. Was playing LLS on hard with homing Reimu (NP2 if that makes any difference). After failing stage 6, after the fade out, I got a STOP error.
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Sorry to necro this thread, but I have a problem.

I tried to patch LLS and play it on Neko Project 2. It plays flawlessly, but it won't display the endings at all. It just stops the emulator with the red text and japanese characters and STOP.
Ah, yes, I think we've encountered this problem before. Make sure that the CPU settings are set to 2.4576MHz x 32 (78.6432 MHz) in the Configure option. If it doesn't help, try re-installing the patch.

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1.- How did you edit the .GRP files from HRtP?
2.- How did you Edit the Text from the Images?
Most of the images with text can be found in the .PI files. HRtP .GRP files are essentially .PI files, just like the ones found in other games. To edit those, follow these steps:

1) Open a GRP file with a hex editor;
2) Open a PI file from any other Touhou game with a hex editor;
3) Change the first 12 values of the GRP file (ZN  PC98 / 5A4E1A000000000450433938) to those of the PI file (Pi  WIN* / 50691A000000000457494E2A), save;
4) Change the file extension from GRP to PI;
5) Now you can convert the PI file to PNG format with ViX, and edit it with any image editor (I used a combination of Photoshop for text editing, and Windows XP version of Paint for editing and saving);
6) After editing, convert the PNG file back to PI, open the converted PI file with a hex editor and change the values at offset 0x5 from 0101 to 0000;
7) Additionally for HRtP files, change back the first 12 hex values from step 3 (ZN PC98), and change the file extension back to GRP;
8) Replace the GRP file with EditDisk and run the game to try it out.

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The games are quite laggy on Neko Project 2 during the bullet-intensive portions, any way to fix that?

Everything runs smooth for me. Make sure that your emulator settings are set according to the instructions.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Leon゠Helsing on October 29, 2014, 08:49:57 am
IIRC PC-98 Alice and Windows Alice being one and the same hasn't actually been fully confirmed yet.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: nintendonut888 on October 29, 2014, 06:05:44 pm
IIRC PC-98 Alice and Windows Alice being one and the same hasn't actually been fully confirmed yet.

It's pretty likely PC-98 Alice and Windows Alice are one and the same, given how Alice reacts to meeting Reimu in Perfect Cherry Blossom:

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Alice: Long time no see.

Reimu: We've only just met.

Alice: No, that's not what I meant.

Reimu: Am I supposed to remember?[8]

Alice: Don't you remember me? Well, either way is fine though.

While you could potentially argue PC-98 Reimu and Windows Reimu aren't the same person, this exchange makes it a pretty safe bet that Alice is the same one fought in Mystic Square.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Leon゠Helsing on October 29, 2014, 11:43:21 pm
That operates under the assumption that the PC-98 games are canon to the Windows games, which according to ZUN isn't the case. (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Canon)
EDIT: Wait, never mind, missed something there. Holy hell, I'm a derp. :V
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: MaronaPossessed on October 31, 2014, 02:23:33 am
Alright I did what you said. I found a copy of the game somewhere on the internet. Now I don't know if it's the copy or the patch. When I patched it before using the exact instructions, and when I start it, it starts up showing as it is corrupted. I patched each individual file and ran it each time to see what was corrupted. I managed to run it again, but I still get a stop error at the screen.

EDIT: SOLVED! Here's what I did:

The copy has to be clean, meaning no scores, previous plays, or settings on it.
What I had to do in my case was I had to overwrite a file, then close the editdisk. Then I had to open it again and overwrite a file, repeat...

Hopefully this helps some people. Thank you again for the help Jeep^^
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on November 01, 2014, 06:40:29 am
Yeah, I remember having to do that for some of the games, having to repeat the file patching over and over until they decided to work.

I'm curious though, where did you find a clean copy of the games, or is there a nice way to do it like with Windows games via deleting score.dat? I've never figured this one out nor found a clean copy.
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: xJeePx on November 01, 2014, 07:25:31 am
You can reset your game settings and hi-scores by deleting these files from your HDIs with EditDisk:

HRtP - REIIDEN.CFG, REYHINO.DAT
SoEW - HUUHI.DAT, HUUMA.CFG
PoDD - YUME.CFG, YUME.NEM
LLS  - GENSOU.SCR, MIKO.CFG
MS   - GENSOU.SCR, MIKO.CFG
Title: Re: Touhou Project games for NEC PC-98 - Complete English Patch Pack [03/08/2014]
Post by: 0xodbs02 on November 12, 2015, 12:35:57 pm
I want to translate touhou pc98 ver korean
But, i can't find the text
can you help me?
(http://postfiles3.naver.net/20151112_178/0xodbs02_1447331670190KBKkp_PNG/Cap_2015-08-16_16-09-36-294.png?type=w2)
I want to know how to find the text.