Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe mikeKOSA and ffff are the same person.
Anyway, I think this is a pretty cool thing. Kinda weird seeing myself up there just for that Fairy Wars stage. :>
the idea is pretty cool, but I think there's a big flaw with the current style. that is, the shottypes are mixed. it'd quadriple the work if it was sorted by shottypes, but it makes sense (to me) if they were to be seperated. it's, for example, easier to score with ReimuB in PCB than it is with marisaA, for instance. (I know there isn't any marisa on the scoreboard, but just giving examples here :v)
so yeah, would make the list longer and seperate them. unless you had a reason not to do so.
I like it, can we use this thread to jizz over new WR superplays too?
ffff = Aizo = MikeKOSA
This is a good idea. I'm temped to challenge some of these records just 'cause of that last list. Competitiveness ho.
If it's too much work for one person, we can have multiple people keep track of all the shot types, however they want to split it. We'd need a mod to help us out with that, though.
As for corrections, I know Nyaaa~ has broken 2 billion in TD Lunatic before. This (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=15977) is the highest one of his I can find. One problem is that sometimes scores submitted to the tournament threads aren't always submitted into the high score threads afterward, so for those on MotK we might need to do a little digging to find their best scores.
MotK: Nereid ? 2,303,936,920 ? Sakuya & Remilia
-Marisa-
1. Random - 2,385,400,670
D:
Oops, my bad! I'll change that right away.It seems you fixed the score and shot, but left Nereid's name there. It should be Random.
It seems you fixed the score and shot, but left Nereid's name there. It should be Random.
I'll also support the idea of an external page for "literally everything." Just way too many shot types to do it here, I think.
On the other hand, that's pretty much what the wiki already has going. I dunno if it would be better to do MotK + World for the sake of comparing scores, or if maybe you just want to do MotK scores. I think I might be leaning toward the latter, myself, if only because, again, the wiki has a page for world records anyway.
Would there be tables for TAS runs? I'd certainly be interested to see that stuff. ;)
*facepalm* Woops.Almost there! Now I think Random ought to be added to this part:
Top Record Holders (MotK):And maybe Nereid goes down to 2.
Heartbeam - 20
.ASP - 6
mikeKOSA - 4
Nereid - 3
RLRBS, GRB, T, Nyaaa~, Zil, BaitySM, Naut, ycw - 1
Almost there! Now I think Random ought to be added to this part:And maybe Nereid goes down to 2.
;)
Would there be tables for TAS runs? I'd certainly be interested to see that stuff. ;)
I think shot types would be impractical.
Also, I think there are too many line breaks currently. Do you think something like this would be easier to read?
I have compiled some records myself (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/User:Arcorann/High_Score_Almanac#Tool-Assisted_Score_Records) which between them make up the majority of serious tool-assisted scoreruns (all records except EoSD Extra are the only runs in their category). There really aren't that many in existence.Wow, that is pretty neat. I do also happen to have the EoSD, PCB, and UFO TAS runs on my YouTube channel. :toot:
I have compiled some records myself (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/User:Arcorann/High_Score_Almanac#Tool-Assisted_Score_Records) which between them make up the majority of serious tool-assisted scoreruns (all records except EoSD Extra are the only runs in their category). There really aren't that many in existence.
I'll give it a go!Spaces. I'll remove the quote tags so you can quote it and see for yourself.
EDIT: I can't seem to get it as good looking as yours, did you just use spaces to line it up or something else? I've removed some lines for now.
Wow, that is pretty neat. I do also happen to have the EoSD, PCB, and UFO TAS runs on my YouTube channel. :toot:The Nicovideo version of that EoSD TAS keeps counting beyond 999,999,990 though. Does anyone know how to disable the counterstop?
I'm also interested in TAS WR's. I think i have seen EoSD extra, PCB(didn't it have a replay?) and UFO lunatic WR's from that list.Here are the TAS replays I have.
Maybe you could make your compilation into something that everybody could contribute to. And maybe the world record page in the wiki should link to TASWR page.
The Nicovideo version of that EoSD TAS keeps counting beyond 999,999,990 though. Does anyone know how to disable the counterstop?Cheats, basically. The code (first part is address, second part is value):
Cool thread, let me know if I can do anything to help out. :VYou could find out the PC98 WRs!
I have compiled some records myself (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/User:Arcorann/High_Score_Almanac#Tool-Assisted_Score_Records) which between them make up the majority of serious tool-assisted scoreruns (all records except EoSD Extra are the only runs in their category). There really aren't that many in existence.I think you're missing that the MoF Extra TAS uses MarisaC.
You could find out the PC98 WRs!I'd love to know these as well. I find it hard to believe that there's no Japanese scoreboard for them somewhere.
みぞる improves his FW Extra score by 200k, pushing it up to 100,245,670 from 100,029,110!I'm going to have to check this out and see if there are any new tricks being used. I should really try to get my own score up to 90 million, at least. Maybe even look at the main game for Fairy Wars. It's a fun game and I somehow always manage to forget that it exists. I bet I could at least beat some of the western records.
Looks like みぞる improved his GFW Extra yet again! I was really impressed when I first watched the original 100m run, gonna go watch this now.
Yeah that way of handling the red ring of death fairies at the end of the stage was unexpected!!
Also perhaps even more notable, clo-naga becomes the first ever (?) person to break 2 billion in PCB easy.
You could find out the PC98 WRs!
I don't remember, you'd have to link me to it.He's referring to this, I believe:
I have compiled some records myself (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/User:Arcorann/High_Score_Almanac#Tool-Assisted_Score_Records)And geez. Looks I have to move my target from 100 million to 120. Bring it on. Do there happen to be any videos of those PoDD scores, Arcorann? I'd love to see some of that gameplay.
I think it would be neat to have (at least) 2, 4, and 5 up there as well, even if there aren't WR pages for them.Seconding this.
Thank you for using "MotK" and not "western".
I suggest also linking RoyalFlare, since that's where the WRs are submitted. There's also a twitter bot that reports new high scores; I don't twitter so I don't have the address, but Nereid and others could hook you up.
I think it would be neat to have (at least) 2, 4, and 5 up there as well, even if there aren't WR pages for them.
Edit2: thinking on it, I also don't see any reason to leave out 1, 3, or 9... I guess I'm just used to them being considered silly, but we track the scores for them (and have some damned good ones for 3 and 9 at least), so that should be good enough, right?
More to the point: why not just have a second section with all the games that don't have WR pages on RF? That way, the games with the most active competition get highlighted while all the games (and the MotK members who earned high scores in them) are still represented. I mean, they're still Touhou, so I think they belong in a Touhou Hall of Records. And it wouldn't take much effort to maintain them on this scoreboard since nobody plays them!
Edit: this is cool, thanks for doing this. And sorry for making that an afterthought.
Thank you for using "MotK" and not "western".
I suggest also linking RoyalFlare, since that's where the WRs are submitted. There's also a twitter bot that reports new high scores; I don't twitter so I don't have the address, but Nereid and others could hook you up.
I think it would be neat to have (at least) 2, 4, and 5 up there as well, even if there aren't WR pages for them.
Edit2: thinking on it, I also don't see any reason to leave out 1, 3, or 9... I guess I'm just used to them being considered silly, but we track the scores for them (and have some damned good ones for 3 and 9 at least), so that should be good enough, right?
More to the point: why not just have a second section with all the games that don't have WR pages on RF? That way, the games with the most active competition get highlighted while all the games (and the MotK members who earned high scores in them) are still represented. I mean, they're still Touhou, so I think they belong in a Touhou Hall of Records. And it wouldn't take much effort to maintain them on this scoreboard since nobody plays them!
Edit: this is cool, thanks for doing this. And sorry for making that an afterthought.
He's referring to this, I believe:And geez. Looks I have to move my target from 100 million to 120. Bring it on. Do there happen to be any videos of those PoDD scores, Arcorann? I'd love to see some of that gameplay.Re: PoDD: Those scores date back to about 2000. I think that says it all.
e: Holy crap that PoFV Extra run. Secret techniques, ahoy! Too bad the Marisa match desyncs for me.
that PoFV high score is for Extra and not Lunatic. Interesting strategies in that replay, although I do not like Extra myself. If there is a lunatic high score anywhere out there (which I'd imagine there is) It's probably much higher.
I like how there are empty categories for SoEW.
On second though, if you know you're going to get No. 1 in a thread, you could post here saying so, just copy-pasting your score with the replay link still at the end.I'm not sure about this, for a number of reasons. It could get very confusing in here if it's cluttered with scores from every game, especially if this thread continues to be used for discussion and jizzing over new WRs, etc. Further, you're depending on everyone who gets a high score to also remember to put it here, which could be easily overlooked, either out of forgetfulness or because the person wasn't aware of this thread in the first place. Further, you may not "know" that you'll be getting the high score. If you take Fairy Wars as an example, several scores were submitted one after another just recently, each one beating the previous, which would cause lots of chaos in this thread. It could work, granted, but I still think an easier way would be for Nereid (assuming he's willing to do it) to make a note of each high score that got replaced after an update, then PM the list to you, or something similar.
Re: PoDD: Those scores date back to about 2000. I think that says it all.I see, And yes, I watched the Extra run from after Marisa. Many thanks for finding that and the PoDD score. I think they're fascinating.
Re: PoFV: The later stages sync. That Eiki match is ridiculous.
That just means that people are going to have to go and play some SoEW now! Speaking of which... SoEW time, brb.I hope you're prepared for some competition. ;)
Brace for more nagging~I'm not sure about this, for a number of reasons. It could get very confusing in here if it's cluttered with scores from every game, especially if this thread continues to be used for discussion and jizzing over new WRs, etc. Further, you're depending on everyone who gets a high score to also remember to put it here, which could be easily overlooked, either out of forgetfulness or because the person wasn't aware of this thread in the first place. Further, you may not "know" that you'll be getting the high score. If you take Fairy Wars as an example, several scores were submitted one after another just recently, each one beating the previous, which would cause lots of chaos in this thread. It could work, granted, but I still think an easier way would be for Nereid (assuming he's willing to do it) to make a note of each high score that got replaced after an update, then PM the list to you, or something similar.
Of course, it's your thread, so do whatever you think would be best. I'm just giving my thoughts on it.I see, And yes, I watched the Extra run from after Marisa. Many thanks for finding that and the PoDD score. I think they're fascinating.
So anyway, this thread's really making me want to just take every high score I get my hands on.I hope you're prepared for some competition. ;)
I hope you're prepared for some competition. ;)
Hi.
So I'll send Shimatora a PM whenever someone posts a new #1 score; that should be easy enough.
Also, that RoyalFlare twitter bot is here (https://twitter.com/thtopscore_bot), and there's also a spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AijPjt2fuzjXdE1vOFB4YUl4VW1ZbTlyM2UxZ1pxeXc) that lists all the top scores (which also gets updated by the bot).
Shin improves the overall WR for UFO again and it's on Lunatic and with MarisaA!!! (http://score.royalflare.net/th12/replay12/th12_ud0f01.rpy)
Phantasmagoria of Flower View [MotK]
Extra:
World: LET ? 316,861,110 ? Reisen
:o Is there a replay for it?
Phantasmagoria of Flower View [MotK]See:
Extra:
World: LET ? 316,861,110 ? Reisen
:o Is there a replay for it?
I have compiled some records myself (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/User:Arcorann/High_Score_Almanac#Tool-Assisted_Score_Records) which between them make up the majority of serious tool-assisted scoreruns (all records except EoSD Extra are the only runs in their category). There really aren't that many in existence.
Just watched the replay, and it's really quite something. I think he could probably get another 50-100m if he decided to graze the rings on Murasa's final and went for Shou first/second non timeouts. Pretty risky though, so I doubt we'll see that happening anytime soon. Excited to see what he'll manage to do with SanaeB. 3.6 maybe?This estimation is probably too gracious. I'll do the numbers later.
~10,429,936 score increase from Chirpy's suggestion.I was talking about Murasa's timeout spell though, not the non. Cuddling with the rings when they spawn for more graze. I'm wondering how I got 100m now though. Maybe I missed a decimal place or something.
I don't into statistics and error margins so give or take 1M.
the page where the replay is hosted talks something about getting 500m score :VHa, that must be including the dream bonus you get while playing in your sleep.
Eiki timers per round: 120s, 50s, 45s, 28s, [...].My own testing regarding timers:
I see a mistake in the SoEW Normal score in the first post. 17,327,840 is actually Zil's Easy score; the Normal score should be 17,050,910 (see here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8096.msg909698.html#msg909698)).
Also, some MotK records for PC-98 games could use an update:
- LLS Easy (Karisa - 56,074,820 - ReimuA)
- LLS Normal (Chirpy13 - 104,418,210 - ReimuB)
- LLS Lunatic (Chirpy13 - 107,064,900 - ReimuB)
- SoEW Lunatic (Karisa - 21,334,210 - ReimuB)
- SoEW Extra (Zil - 34,257,150 - ReimuB) [if the turbo version is counted, see Zil's note in the same post I linked]
The Extra score was being left out until Nereid decided how it should be handled or something, yeah. It's worth noting though that the "world record" score up there by 部屋干し(which is lower than my own) was almost certainly using some kind of turbo thing as well. Personally I think my score may as well be added there, if we're looking at overall records.
Also the PoDD Lunatic score could be updated as well, to 98,470,830 with Chiyuri.
And whatever happened to Nereid anyway? He was updating things pretty regularly and then kinda vanished. I'd be willing to help with the scoreboards myself, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to become a janitor all of a sudden just for that.
And whatever happened to Nereid anyway?I died.
I died.
Ok, actually I've just been occupied with other things but I'll get everything updated next week. :V
He was hoping the world would end so he wouldn't have to do it. I'm sure of it.
Also, Shimatora, you could probably update the Easy and Normal scores for Mystic Square. Karisa's taken both of them now. Unless maybe she intends to improve them even further sometime soon.
Also, Shimatora, you could probably update the Easy and Normal scores for Mystic Square. Karisa's taken both of them now. Unless maybe she intends to improve them even further sometime soon.No, I've had enough of MS Easy/Normal for now. Unless you score higher than either of my Mima scores that is.
I'd be willing to help with the scoreboards myself, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to become a janitor all of a sudden just for that.This pretty much reflects how I feel by the way.
No, I've had enough of MS Easy/Normal for now. Unless you score higher than either of my Mima scores that is.
Also I think I should currently have 8 (1 E/N/H, 2 L, 4 E, 5 E/N/H) in that list of top record holders. That list is rather biased towards those of us who care about the PC-98 games by the way. Not that I mind. (But seriously, HRtP Normal/Hard are still very improvable, someone go improve them thank you.)
Also it seems one of the world records has been improved since this thread was created.
- EoSD Hard (World): keisa - 458,459,990 - ReimuB
UKT blasting the Lunatic WR by 190m, with the final score being 4,938,863,770!
EDIT: For SA! :V
Over 75% of World Record
Over 50% of World Record
Under 50% of World Record
Easy:
World: MATSU ? 172,044,560 ? Reimu B
MotK: Heartbeam ? 129,782,280 (75.44%) ? Marisa B
Could you include a green color for 90% of WR?
I find the orange color to be somewhat difficult to read against the blue post background. Perhaps something darker, like this?
(Also IN Easy and EoSD Extra are missing a right parenthesis, and EoSD Easy and UFO Hard are missing a % sign)
Note: T has 558,060,980 on TD Extra with Reimu.
Is that posted anywhere on the site?Point. It's on royalflare though.
Point. It's on royalflare though.
And the orange color seems to have been reverted for some reason?
Also I did FW Lunatic recently
chum - 90,931,940 - Route A-2
I'm working on EoSD at the moment (god It's hard and dumb...) once I'm done with that I will probably go back to GFW and work on that 100 mil!
And maybe beat Zil's extra score
Zil - 12
A few things that could be updated:
MS Extra (Zil - 199,829,790 - Mima)
PoFV Normal (Zil - 238,519,690 - Eiki)
PoFV Hard (Zil - 280,243,830 - Eiki)
PoFV Extra (Zil - 159,212,870 - Eiki)
Pretty sure it's more appropriate to say "Eiki," not "Sikieiki."
And that should've been at 13. 15 now though. I think Heartbeam should've gone down to 18 somewhere along the lines, unless I miscounted something.
EoSD Hard (chum - 308,026,510 - ReimuB) too
A theoretical great score for me would still be about 40 millions higher but fuck if I hate myself that much
That Normal run seems crazy, Zil, I'm gonna have to watch it (and Hard too I guess)
That Normal run seems crazy, Zil, I'm gonna have to watch it (and Hard too I guess)Thanks. I think the Hard run is by far the crazier one. Both could've had less pointless deaths though.
You raised my number too high now. It should only be 15, I believe. Also you didn't change the MS Extra score. I actually did get two different runs less than 1 million away from 200. ;_;
Thanks. I think the Hard run is by far the crazier one. Both could've had less pointless deaths though.
Thanks for the update!
By the way, my name should be alongside chirpy's (EoSD Hard, FW Normal, Hard & Lunatic = 4!) :D
MotK: Zil – 199,286,370 (97.68%) – Mima
MS Extra (Zil - 199,829,790 - Mima)The difference is laughably small, yes, but it is a separate score. Or am I missing something?
Wait... you still didn't change it.The difference is laughably small, yes, but it is a separate score. Or am I missing something?
Y.S grabs the Lunatic WR with a 300k improvement. It is A-2 even though it says B-1 - seems like the replay got bugged.Anyone manage to get this replay to work? It just crashes when I try to select it.
Anyone manage to get this replay to work? It just crashes when I try to select it.
MotK: Zil ? 159,212,870 (50.25%) ? EikiActually, I don't think there any scores left that are under 50% of the world record. Not that we really now anything for certain about those untracked games anyway.
I'd personally prefer hearing what the player actually did (or what you think he did) to achieve the score increase, like improved grazing technique or enemy disposal/UFO summoning/freeze timing and if you could see any possibilities for improvements or noticeable mistakes (escaped enemies/dropped items, wasted easy graze potential, missed freeze opportunity etc.) it would be great! Still, thanks for taking the time to write this up, it is appreciated! Keep it up!
Hard - Jigoku
Karisa - 11,365,460 - C - Screenshot (http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee487/KarisaMirisame/th1hj-11365460.png)
On top of that, a death in stage 5 and a bomb at Kaguya costs 20m because of lower bomb stock. Add that to the night bonus loss and the spell bonus loss and the run could be 6.6B.Simply capturing Kaguya's 3rd last spell should be enough to bring it up to 6.65 billion. 60m night bonus + ~41m spell bonus + ~12m from time orbs (~1300 time orbs at 8230+1500 value) + 7.5m extra bomb is about 120m. (Spell bonus and time orb counts are from Alan's previous record.)
Zil – 17Oh, right, this caught my eye, Zil being higher, while having one less record (or maybe the numbers are wrong, I didn't bother checking) . Or possibly it's intentional, considering how the latter isn't technically a MotK member anymore, given the deleted account.
Heartbeam – 18
Oh, right, this caught my eye, Zil being higher, while having one less record (or maybe the numbers are wrong, I didn't bother checking) . Or possibly it's intentional, considering how the latter isn't technically a MotK member anymore, given the deleted account.
Not much of a big deal, though.
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Oh, and if you include me on the list (You know my preference about it due to an earlier IRC rant - But I know very well that it's my own fault for posting to the scoreboards in the first place, and then keeping at it since I have a thing for this competitivity. Or maybe it's all about attention.), I'd prefer having the Seppo Hovi written apart, not altogether. (Seppo Hovi, not SeppoHovi. You can also use Vee, if it's easier to type.) You don't have to go out of your way to fix it, though, given how little thing it is (again). I just felt like pointing out everything that's on top of my head now that I'm posting.
Playlist of each game's overall Lunatic and Extra world records (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyUFfxSSS5auqgtwDM3StpFLwEmIbrFFQ).
Well, except the records that don't seem to have a replay (currently PCB/MoF Lunatic). For those I included the highest-scoring replay from Royalflare instead.
The idea is to provide videos that can be used for quick reference links (like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI7i2rue6mY#t=12m13)) to supergrazes and other scoring techniques, as well as allow people to more easily skip back while watching (e.g. to study the timing/movements, or find out how much a particular scoring trick is worth). And perhaps to show the world records to people who don't have a particular game, though I'm not sure who would care to watch.
If this gets enough interest, I'm thinking of also including the Easy records (I think Lunatic+Easy should be enough to show the majority of scoring strategies), and perhaps enough replays to show the rest of the stages (the other 5 GFW routes, IN 4A, IN 6A, PCB Extra), but probably not anytime soon. These took a while to record.
(Edit: And yes, there's also the issue of how many records I'd care to keep the videos updated for. Probably no more than 20-30 on my own, though I wouldn't mind keeping the playlist updated if there did happen to be some sort of collaboration.)
MotK: Karisa ? 141,4762,240 (100%) ? Mima
MotK: ffff (mikeKOSA) ? 4,147,152,660 (81.1%) ? Youmu (solo)This score should be with Reimu/Yukari, apparently. The replay is gone though.
GFW
CLR - 115,042,510 - Route A-2
http://score.royalflare.net/th128/replay128/th128_ud05f2.rpy
Hurrah, a non bugged replay!
All updated.
Extra::]
World: .ASP ? 1,421,550,150 ? Reimu B
MotK: Heartbeam ? 1,374,889,790 (96.72%) ? Reimu B
GFW
CLR - 115,042,510 - Route A-2
http://score.royalflare.net/th128/replay128/th128_ud05f2.rpy
GFW - Normal
がそりん - 69,164,890 - Route A-2
http://score.royalflare.net/th128/replay128/th128_ud05f3.rpy
I might as well mention a few recently posted scores that I noticed were higher than what's on the list.
UFO Normal - chum - 1,555,741,200 - SanaeB
PoDD Hard - Zil - 82,125,270 - Chiyuri
PoFV Normal - Zil - 310,957,740 - Eiki
PoFV Extra - Zil - 164,796,780 - Eiki
(+1 chum, -1 Heartbeam, Zil unchanged)
May as well mention I did these last night.
Hard - Eiki
Zil - 293,565,890
Lunatic - Eiki
Zil - 328,532,130
Yeah, in general, it's advantageous if the character's level 2 spell creates tons of slow bullets, and also has no chance of hitting the AI early. Eiki has the added bonus of fighting Reimu in stage 9 instead of herself, so you can easily last a very long time. Reisen's probably a bit better on her own, but I think the extent to which Reimu is a better opponent than Eiki makes Eiki better for scoring outside of Extra and Easy mode.
Reisen's probably a bit better on her own, but I think the extent to which Reimu is a better opponent than Eiki makes Eiki better for scoring outside of Extra and Easy mode.Hadn't thought about that before. That's huge; thanks for explaining this. I always thought that Reisen had the edge and that her potential hadn't been fully realized, but those Eiki scores make a lot more sense now (at least when you don't get unlucky with Eiki-laser!).
Why is Reimu so much better for score? Is she just easier to survive a long time against?Primarily, yes, though as K.B. mentioned, her boss attack shoots more reflectable bullets as well. Eiki's boss has three moves, and only one shoots reflectable bullets, and they're super fast, which means they don't help very much. Reimu has five moves, and two of them use very slow reflectable bullets, with one of those two using a fuckton. And since you are (ideally) locked at bonus, you'll never be cancelling the boss attacks, so they're on your screen much more often than not. So while Reimu's spell doesn't really help very much (since it's extremely fast), her boss will be using favorable attacks much more frequently than Eiki uses spells. So I think she's better for score even without considering how she's so much easier.
PCB Lunatic WR goes into 3.17B (http://score.royalflare.net/th07/replay7/th7_ud206a.rpy)!
I have no words.
MotK: .ASP ? 1,421,550,150 (100%)[/color] ? Reimu B
Normal - Youmu, Nal Yoo - 4,084,750,610 appears to be missing.
isn't Zil's PoFV Easy score supposed to be with Reisen?You forgot to change this, I think. It should indeed be Reisen instead of Eiki.
Speaking of which, it's silly for me to be at the top of that with scores in games almost nobody plays, but whatever. :pAnd that's why more people should try scoring in those games. It sort of worked with MS and HRtP, though it was just the two of us. PoDD and PoFV seem to actually be rather popular lately, but not the others. I'm particularly curious about the scoring potential of the remaining PC-98 modes (that aren't already near-maxed like LLS Extra and HRtP).
Mountain of Faith [MotK] (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,160.0.html) [TouhouWiki] (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/High_scores#Mountain_of_Faith_world_records_.28.E6.9D.B1.E6.96.B9.E9.A2.A8.E7.A5.9E.E9.8C.B2.E3.81.AE.E4.B8.96.E7.95.8C.E8.A8.98.E9.8C.B2.29)
Extra:
MotK: Star King ? 979,104,190 (97.64%) ? Reimu B
And that's why more people should try scoring in those games. It sort of worked with MS and HRtP, though it was just the two of us. PoDD and PoFV seem to actually be rather popular lately, but not the others. I'm particularly curious about the scoring potential of the remaining PC-98 modes (that aren't already near-maxed like LLS Extra and HRtP).
I've been secretly attempting to score in PoFV extra recently. Haven't submitted because I always screw up somewhere. But I actually think the "world record" seems not very difficult to beat if you are don't die too much if at all (which is where I'm having issues, lol).
But I actually think the "world record" seems not very difficult to beat if you are don't die too much if at all (which is where I'm having issues, lol).It's been a while since I watched it, but if I remember right his luck was pretty spectacular. Even with the same strategies and no deaths, I don't think you could usually expect to get much higher than 200-250 million. Or are you scoring that high already?
New overall SA Extra record by ASL! (http://twitpic.com/cwuluc)
shin just broke 3 billion with ReimuB on Hard! I haven't watched it fully yet, but the way he supergrazed Ichirin's last non was completely ridiculous, enough to make me pause the replay and post this. I remember he trying the same thing back when he got the 3.2 billion with SanaeB and dying at the second attempt of it. Maybe it's Reimu hitbox, or her speed, or he optimized it (or maybe all three).
IBUKI took his spot back with a 1,115,679,550 ReimuA score. About just 600k more than ASL's score. I expect ASL to take it back with a 1,117m or something, as their replays are really optimal despite using slightly different strategies at the stage portion, and there's not much to improve.
I *think* it's because the spell can troll you or something. But I'm not sure if there's some penalty if you capture it by timeout insteead of shooting because in Kopiapoa's TAS he grazes the shit out of the spell but at the last seconds he focus on shooting her and eventually kills her.
I'm guessing the level of optimization still doesn't warrant a time-down of Rorschach, also you have to end it manually since you don't get items otherwise. It is probably annoying having to peek at the lifebar while playing too, since the damage noise always seemed drowned out by the bullet activation sound.
If it being a hassle is really the only reason I'd be surprised. Players of this caliber should be easily able to do it. Maybe we'll see them run the timer in future runs?
GFW Normal - がそりん - 69,806,060
I don't think the EoSD Hard world record in the first post was updated... actually, it seems more than a few records in the first post could use an update. World records from the wiki:
EoSD Hard - 茉莉花 - 489,881,960
PCB Phantasm - ゆ~すけ - 1,685,290,390
SA Extra - IBUKI - 1,115,679,550 - ReimuA
GFW Normal - がそりん - 69,806,060
GFW Hard - えあ - 87,121,820
TD Hard - sxh - 3,599,143,450
And MotK records:
EoSD Easy - chum - 132,175,680 - ReimuB
EoSD Normal - marus-MPO - 276,600,610 - ReimuB
IN Easy - Sakurei - 3,039,361,940
HRtP Easy - Zil - 11,478,940 - Makai
HRtP Normal - Zil - 11,412,100 - Makai
PoFV Normal - Zil - 426,203,120
PoFV Hard - Zil - 412,752,980
PoFV Lunatic - Zil - 385,445,470
PoFV Extra - Zil - 211,692,230
Actually, considering that I might have forgotten about some MotK scores, it might be a good idea to recheck the entire list.
I was looking at the wiki high score page, and happened to notice the score for SA Extra ReimuA has been updated, the record going back to ASL with 1,121,074,030. However, I can't find a replay for it... any idea where that score is from?
I was looking at the wiki high score page, and happened to notice the score for SA Extra ReimuA has been updated, the record going back to ASL with 1,121,074,030. However, I can't find a replay for it... any idea where that score is from?https://twitter.com/astonel/status/358285621623660544 (https://twitter.com/astonel/status/358285621623660544) - no replay available at the moment. He's probably still working on it.
TD was released on 2011-08-13 and the Royalflare scoreboards were opened on 2011-09-11, so expect it to be about a month, the same for UFO. I don't know how you got ~2 weeks.
Shimatora, not sure how often you're planning on updating the DDC records in the first post, but I think all the difficulties have at least a somewhat high "world" record by now to compare to. Perhaps it might encourage people here to go for the higher difficulties' MotK records?
What it makes me wonder more than anything is if there are undiscovered techniques that we aren't utilizing. Are you sure the MS score was done with Yuuka? Google translate doesn't give me anything that suggests he used Yuuka for the run. I'm not sure if the screenshot is supposed to suggest he used Yuuka, and he may just be putting it there because of how absurd that section is if you use her. (And I notice his item count is about 10 less than it should be at that point if he were doing well.) If he can get 200m with Yuuka then there is definitely something big we're missing in that stage.I'm pretty sure. (http://i.imgur.com/O7vFEeD.png) You had me second guessing myself and actually made me load up MS to check this though.
Since no one mentioned yet, SOC broke the overall UFO Extra record with 725m, besting the previous wal record by a small 2 million. I didn't really expect HIM to break a world record since he's mostly a survival player. :V
Also, dat raindrops speedkill.
Normal - A2Quick, before chum beats it!
Zil - 59,359,260 - C - 0.050% - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=31020)
:3
Quick, before chum beats it!
Also I guess you could add Pietro's improved LLS Extra record.
On another note, I'm thinking about writing articles for the front page that highlight achievements in the scoring/survival world, such as new WRs and new MotK records. It wouldn't be limited to just this, the potential is huge for what I could write about. Would anyone be interested in this? Asking specifically in here for now as my intended audience is going to largely be those who frequent this thread.I don't really see much point in making front page posts for people who frequent this thread-- if so, why not just post in the thread? I think a lot of us check HME more often than the front page, anyway.
Mystic Square [MotK] (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,128.0.html)
Easy:
World:
MotK: Karisa ? 77,928,820 (100%) ? Bitcoin
Normal:
World:
MotK: Karisa ? 118,156,540 (100%) ? Bitcoin
Hard:
World:
MotK: Karisa ? 141,476,240 (100%) ? Bitcoin
Lunatic:
World:
MotK: Zil ? 162,423,680 (100%) ? Bitcoin
Extra:
World: 部屋干し ? 204,022,370 ? Bitcoin
MotK: Zil ? 203,557,580 (99.77%) ? Bitcoin
Shin broke 2.9b on normal with MarisaB! http://score.royalflare.net/th12/replay12/th12_ud1038.rpy
It seems to be a couple months old, but was only uploaded to royalflare today.
Yay, a more polished DDC overall record! I was wondering how long it'd take. SakuyaB on Lunatic didn't seem very popular on Royalflare, probably from how weak her shot is. Though I see the category has been filling in with other scores since I last checked.
A note about comparing to the TAS: The TAS uses continues for increased bombs on Sekibanki, while Touhou scoring standards require a 1cc. So they're less comparable than it'd usually be to compare the TAS with the real-time WR.
Yusuke improves his PCB Lunatic score once more - 3,194,224,410 !!!!Dear god. Too good. I'm gonna have to watch this later.
Now ReimuB has the overall record for PCB!
Yusuke improves his PCB Lunatic score once more - 3,194,224,410 !!!!
Now ReimuB has the overall record for PCB!
On twitter and http://replay.royalflare.net/
regardless of whether it's real or not there are japanese players capable of reaching 5b in SA lunatic. Players that aren't UKT
Correct me if I am wrong, but Nal Yoo and mikeKOSA are the same person, aren't they? And if they are, it would probably be easier to have the same name for their IN scores and the EoSD score.
Next is that it's Hurst's DDC normal score, not Noobzor's, as far as I know.
And the last thing I saw was that the IN extra score should be higher for the MotK line:
Sakurei - 2,736,687,110
I don't think I missed anything else.
"that thing that happened"
It happened. gobou hit 5bil.
SA Lunatic history has been made, folks!
Where is there a replay of Gobou's run? I'm kind of curious to see it :3
On a side note, when this page gets updated, the SoEW Normal record needs to be updated as well. That new record stands for like 3 months now.
Lunatic:
MotK: .ASP ? 5,465,554,730 (82.69%) ? Reimu & Yukari
The thread hasn't been updated because Shimatora is busy irl, from what I understand. You will have to wait until then. A lot of things have happened since the last update, not only you beating asp.:qq: :colonveeplusalpha: I should pay attention more...
Sanae Extra record isWow. Some nice supergrazes on the fire spells, impressive dodges to graze the stage portions, and wait, the death fairies have safespots?778m (http://replay.royalflare.net/replay/th15_udz015.rpy).1 Billion :o (http://score.royalflare.net/th15/replay15/th15_ud00c5.rpy).
Wow. Some nice supergrazes on the fire spells, impressive dodges to graze the stage portions, and wait, the death fairies have safespots?
Who's AM again? The name seems familiar, but I don't remember what else they did (and AM or こなたん isn't listed in the current world records). Former world record holder in another game?
Who's AM again? The name seems familiar, but I don't remember what else they did (and AM or こなたん isn't listed in the current world records). Former world record holder in another game?
Yu-suke gets 3,643,993,290 and a new overall WR in PCB using ReimuB.
His stats showed 70k resets and over 4500 hours of playing. This ought to be one of the most insane, of not the most insane touhou score of all time?
Where??
Is this thing ever getting updated again? Otherwise it's just gonna be confusing people
To clarify about updating-- Shimatora's been away lately, and she prefers that I not update her threads, so she can better keep track of what's changed since the last update (and there's a lot of categories to check in this thread).
I am officially back from my real life endeavors. Please expect updates soon!(as you can see it's dated later than the post you quoted)
That's funny considering she posted this:(as you can see it's dated later than the post you quoted)I can see that, and it's kind of pointless to take the date of either quote into account since yours was over seven months ago (and mine almost a year ago), I just meant to point out that -only- Shimatora updates this thread and it's why it isn't updated frequently
Speaking of world records and such to update, Kisara has improved the LoLK overall WR to 2.861b! (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcR3Gf2UEAIWOHY.jpg:orig)
Unfortunately no replay has been uploaded yet, if at all.
I can see that, and it's kind of pointless to take the date of either quote into account since yours was over seven months ago (and mine almost a year ago), I just meant to point out that -only- Shimatora updates this thread and it's why it isn't updated frequentlyI think since Shimatora has been neglecting her duty to uopdate this thread for over a year, even though she announced half a year ago that she was gonna do it soon it would be fine for someone else to do it....
Does-even-score-well%
Does-even-score%
Moderately- even-scores%
Barely-even-scores%
Does-not-even-score%
Lunatic:
World: Cactu – 665,148,660 – ReimuB
MotK: Cactu – 663,579,260 (99.76%) – ReimuB
Lunatic:
World: xutu - 610,554,360 - Eiki
MotK: yet - 529,084,000 (86.66%) – Eiki
MotK: yet - 529,084,000 (86.66%) – Reisen
IMPERISHABLE NIGHT OVERALL WORLD RECORD BEATEN!
6,695,345,940 (http://zh.touhouwiki.net/images/4/4c/Th8_ud0439.rpy) by A.H, using Solo Youmu.
Just... wow. So close to 6.7b, too! Maybe we'll finally see it.
This is huge. I never thought anyone would beat Alan any time soon.
IMPERISHABLE NIGHT OVERALL WORLD RECORD BEATEN!his ghost team record was already beaten by someone that is actually not himself (btw, I think there is relatively little reason to think that his score would be unbeatable compared to runs like yusukes reimuB pcb)
6,695,345,940 (http://zh.touhouwiki.net/images/4/4c/Th8_ud0439.rpy) by A.H, using Solo Youmu.
Just... wow. So close to 6.7b, too! Maybe we'll finally see it.
This is huge. I never thought anyone would beat Alan any time soon.
IMPERISHABLE NIGHT OVERALL WORLD RECORD BEATEN!
6,695,345,940 (http://zh.touhouwiki.net/images/4/4c/Th8_ud0439.rpy) by A.H, using Solo Youmu.
Just... wow. So close to 6.7b, too! Maybe we'll finally see it.
This is huge. I never thought anyone would beat Alan any time soon.
his ghost team record was already beaten by someone that is actually not himself (btw, I think there is relatively little reason to think that his score would be unbeatable compared to runs like yusukes reimuB pcb)
Normal:
World: LYX ? 1,643,366,120 ? SakuyaB
MotK: Hurst ? Hurst - 1,486,992,120 (90.48%) ? SakuyaB
Uh, nice? :P
Grats to the new record holders!
I need to say, das some nice scores. :P
Not all replays have been released (LYX or NALIS for example) and there is no video of them either and then there are runs that had a replay on RF or something and it was removed. Having a link to something on every second run looks pretty weird. Not to mention that if you really care to watch a run, you can look for the replay on common sources (the wiki, RF, maybe even youtube). Not to mention that I really don't want to sully my hard drive by downloading SA replays or something :^)Sounds reasonable.
I've filled out the rest of my test spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/167eioYS_7Uo-9EqZsVK-NzO1VoQNwNB_7zMnGBCErgc/edit#gid=0)-- any thoughts?That does look pretty good, although I think you can drag the columns for replays so it is a bit longer? I'm not too sure, I thought it was possible in Google Spreadsheets.
It's adaptable for a replay column, though it'd take a while to retrieve all the links.
Oh wow, DDC Extra has quite the competition lately (http://score.royalflare.net/th14/history14.html#L4C3). 5 new WRs in the past week, 8 in two months...Make that 16 WRs by in 4 months. The last few are very slight improvements, 1,224,623,140 (http://score.royalflare.net/archives/th14/th14_ud0759.rpy) as of this post-- is DDC Extra MarisaB actually near-maxed?
Also, GFW Lunatic is up to 120,193,990 (http://score.royalflare.net/archives/th128/th128_ud07ab.rpy), by someone who submitted as "The Challenge", in-game "CHALENGI". The wiki lists the player as "megapulse" though.
Is 桜庭ローラ the same person as aochi? The in-game replay name is aikatsu.
Then something I noticed on the list some time earlier, is the MS Lunatic record is 173,066,760 by Arashi Ai. Though those I asked, didn't know a thing about this person and his score, nor know of any existing proof. How exactly did you guys come to know about this score in the first place?I don't actually recall where that came from, but it's not in the last version of Shimatora's post, so it was added after the spreadsheet formed. I guess Zigzagwolf mentioned it at some point that I forgot? I'd PM him but it seems he hasn't been active lately.