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Title: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on December 30, 2013, 01:49:10 PM
all text plagiarized from Edible
First thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14669.0.html)
Second thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15058.0.html)
Third thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15370.0.html)
Fourth thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15728.0.html)


(http://i.imgur.com/2yHbFTK.jpg)

Puzzle & Dragons is an ios/android puzzle RPG.  It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon.  It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained occasionally as rewards in-game), which allow increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more.  If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any.  (It's recommended you don't because you are almost guaranteed to be super frustrated at getting screwed by bad rolls ;_;)

You can control monsters from lowly slimes to mighty dragons  to even gods like Isis (above).  They all have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.

If you're interested, there's a really useful database of monsters and game info here: http://www.puzzledragonx.com/

A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine.  It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare, like a 5-star beastie or a god.  Great starters include any of the Chinese Gods, Ares, Bastet, Horus, Isis, Idunn & Idunna, Hermes, Archangel Lucifer, Odin, Loki, Persephone, Parvati, Batman, and many others.  Feel free to ask!

List of friends:

hyorinryu 357.646.299
Suikama 348.941.282
Soichiro 389,177,249
triangles 322.456.235
Nobu 389,151,231
Arashi 361, 443, 282
Chaore 344, 844, 286
Ghaleon 374, 256, 217
Labuto 362,441,209
omgkitties 301,354,227
Twillsky 320,059,211
O4rfish 389,956,257
Mode 384,458,286
Arcorann 326,368,215
Yukarin: 394.177.213
Jq1790: 396,049,294
Pesco: 328 276 294
MJP: 370,479,279
Dibble: 314,673,283
Soichiro 365,853,281
Matsuri 358,689,277
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on December 30, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
Nebradisk's dungeon is a complete joke.  Throw on some dark resist and a Lucifer friend and sleep through the whole thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2013, 01:58:33 PM
from last thread re: hera

oh my god I was destroyed in like two turns even with odin friend what even

how do you even do this D:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on December 30, 2013, 02:06:58 PM
If you're running healer/odin, you have to have a beefy enough team to get through the first five waves.  After that it becomes much easier.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on December 30, 2013, 02:25:15 PM
Yeah for healer/Odin or resist/Odin the first few stages, actually the first few turns, are the hardest since you need to try and melt a dude or two while waiting for your first heartmaker to come online.

It's definitely possible to get orb screwed though on Round One, I did my first try  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on December 30, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
Yeah I had to spend a stone on wave 4 this time around. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on December 30, 2013, 05:55:22 PM
Personally, I went with Chaos Devil Dragon lead and Odin, using dual Sirens, Rainbow Keeper, and a Dark Golem mk II. If I could survive the first few turns, I would just stall until everything came up, then CDD nuke + Gungnir clears everything that isn't a mystic knight.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on December 30, 2013, 06:09:03 PM
Got to ceres this time.

Having a no skillup echi is hard. Her delay is so useful.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on December 30, 2013, 06:19:35 PM
hera ZERO-STONED... on the second try since I forgot neptune on the first.

I could've won that one anyway if I managed to get my HP back to full before hades hit though! >>...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on December 30, 2013, 06:19:52 PM
I promise I'll have my Odin evolved and less dinky next time Hera rolls around  :ohdear: :ohdear: :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Sophilia on December 30, 2013, 07:34:26 PM
I'm not ready this time.  My blue team needs to level up for more HP, and my Devil Dragon isn't chaos yet so Hades would laugh at friend Odin.  Next time I though, I might stand a chance.  This is how the squad looks right now:
IDP +6 * lv 42
Bluebird Blues lv24
Demon Orochi lv26
Siren EOTS lv22
FKK +4 lv 20
Friend CDHermes +19 1A lv64
Now, if only I had good memory for when color dragons popped up...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on December 30, 2013, 08:07:32 PM

Now, if only I had good memory for when color dragons popped up...

This'll help. Just look under todays schedule and figure out your group. You can adjust it based on time zone.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2013, 08:16:52 PM
Definitely not ready this time around. Tried twice and got wrecked big time. I need to try something that isn't mono-dark (because Lucifer's HP/RCV boost)+Odin rofl

I wonder if I could go for Nebradisk though? It looks pretty great, but seems kinda rough...

EDIT: wait what do you mean it's not even in the english version yet why even bother :s
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on December 30, 2013, 09:11:36 PM
Matsy: MAY I SUGGEST LUCI LUCI BV

No seriously, all you really really want for a luci for this is siren and a poisoner. The rest is just RKs.

Even without a poisoner if you're willing, you could just run RKs alongside the siren.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2013, 09:41:59 PM
I don't have any of those though :v

Really I'm gonna sit Hera out for now and focus on Nebradisk instead. Triangles, would you mind tossing your Ares up for a little while? My dark/fire team would appreciate its help. :3
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on December 30, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
I wonder if I could go for Nebradisk though? It looks pretty great, but seems kinda rough...

Who all is available on your dark team?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2013, 09:54:56 PM
What I'm thinking is:
Seraph of Dawn, Lucifer as lead
Keeper of Dark for HP and defense when needed (normally I run Keeper of Rainbow in my mono-dark set but since I'm going to be doing something else I need the cost)
Dub-mythlit because okay HP and ATK and low cost
Echidna for Menace
Phoenix Knight for Fire Orb Change, mostly to fuel
Triangles' Ares, which will provide a massive boost to HP and ATK for everyone.

I'm well aware I probably can't no-stone this, but I really don't mind since Nebradisk's ability is pretty sweet and I want it.

(for what it's worth, my current mono-dark team is:
Seraph of Dawn, Lucifer
Keeper of Rainbow
Dub-Mythlit
Dub-Mythlit
[insert whatever here, currently Pierdra because hearts]
and then a suitable friend (preferably Triangles' Ares or Loki or Thanatos or Batman friends) )
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on December 30, 2013, 10:06:45 PM
Unfortunately, it wouldn't work (on legend, anyway).  You need to attack 9 times a round to beat him, which means assuming a mono-dark team you need 3 monsters with dual element at a minimum.  Unfortunately, Luci himself doesn't count as the dungeon has no light orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2013, 10:10:06 PM
I'll be doing Master since I don't have enough max stamina for Legend. (40% is still a good chance...)

I don't mind if I have to use a couple stones to win, honestly. It's a hell of a lot better than some of the rare egg pulls I've had <_<;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on December 30, 2013, 10:56:35 PM
Triangles, would you mind tossing your Ares up for a little while? My dark/fire team would appreciate its help. :3

Just popped him up, and after I fed him my red santa dragon too ohoho.  I had Odin up most of the day, so hopefully anyone who wanted to try and needed him got a shot if not let me know and we'll play musical chairpuzzlemons again :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 30, 2013, 10:58:25 PM
Just popped him up, and after I fed him my red santa dragon too ohoho.  I had Odin up most of the day, so hopefully anyone who wanted to try and needed him got a shot if not let me know and we'll play musical chairpuzzlemons again :V

Appropriate music? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_mb_c8su7k)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on December 30, 2013, 11:23:01 PM
Ugh 35 stones for the godliest godfest evar, i cant waiiit.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2013, 11:28:41 PM
holy shit that attack man

that was a scary attack
(http://i.imgur.com/qqwsV5y.png)

wait but what's that--
(http://i.imgur.com/FPJnmwF.png)

oh yes it's here
(http://i.imgur.com/1vs8MUN.png)

thanks for the help, triangles \o/

oh also

(http://i.imgur.com/QPS9KQq.png)

gonna aim for ultimate evo before the week is over~

And yeah I didn't no-stone that-- it took 3. One for each fixed battle, really. And now I don't have much for godfest but I'm willing to use a little of my upcoming paycheck on it <_<;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on December 30, 2013, 11:34:13 PM
I do not suggest it unless you really have more cash than you know what to do with.. it's 5 bucks a pull, and even during godfests it's not uncommon to not get a single god after 4 pulls....But if you ever ever do spend money on this game, I would say now would be the time to do so for sure =P.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2013, 11:43:43 PM
I've uh, spent a bit already on this game since I started. I know what the price is.

*cough* <_<;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on December 31, 2013, 12:48:44 AM
Evolved Bane can kill Nebra. When I'm done farming Hera (1-stone because I get lazy and don't erase as many non-hearts as I need to) I'll start in on him.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on December 31, 2013, 01:05:44 AM
Ugh 35 stones for the godliest godfest evar, i cant waiiit.

I'm still grumpy over here because I already own 6/15 of the things and only want two of the remaining 9. :v

china girls plz ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 31, 2013, 01:10:33 AM
Odin and the Metatrons are there, as well as Persephone, Neptune, and Venus.

I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally want Odin or Metatron <<

ESPECIALLY Metatron.

EDIT: wait that was the last one

well still odin and metatron yeah
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 31, 2013, 01:15:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/GmVJWySl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GmVJWyS.jpg)

It's finally time. Let's go.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on December 31, 2013, 01:48:48 AM
Don't die in the first room rdj ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on December 31, 2013, 01:53:40 AM
Evolved Bane can kill Nebra. When I'm done farming Hera (1-stone because I get lazy and don't erase as many non-hearts as I need to) I'll start in on him.
Yeah if I'm reading everything right I can one-shot him with the purple UFO that I picked up when getting my eleventy billion Space Invaders for Ares ohoho.

It's finally time. Let's go.
Good luck puzzle warrior!
And I double promise to have a less terrible Odin next time  :ohdear: :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on December 31, 2013, 02:55:24 AM
I would have offered my odin too but the odin race is inferior to the power of double luci :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 31, 2013, 02:58:48 AM
Don't die in the first room rdj ;_;

Too late ;_;

Good news, though, is that that's the only stone I've spent so far, and as long as I don't completely zone out, I'm golden.

EDIT:

(http://i.imgur.com/wqEiqbcl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/wqEiqbc.jpg)

I guess 1-stone is okay for this being literally my first try at it. Hopefully next time goes faster because I am surprisingly worn out. orz
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on December 31, 2013, 03:20:11 AM
Honestly, even if you take 5 stones its not a bad trade off considering she is a guaranteed drop and those 5 stones in the gem egg machine might have instead become a mystic ice knight instead  :V

But yeah once you get past the trash waves, slow and steady and you should be good.  Lots of combos of course and don't forget to heal every turn on Venus if possible to practice for the big cheese herself.

Keep us posted!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on December 31, 2013, 03:26:45 AM
Fuck yeah rdj!  Congrats.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on December 31, 2013, 03:28:49 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wqEiqbcl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/wqEiqbc.jpg)

I guess 1-stone is okay for this being literally my first try at it. Hopefully next time goes faster because I am surprisingly worn out. orz

It goes much faster with gravity, yes.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on December 31, 2013, 04:11:59 AM
Ahhhhh grats  :toot: :toot:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 31, 2013, 04:22:45 AM
Thanks! I did feel kind of lightheaded after clearing since I was trying to focus, but a drink of water afterwards helped.

...and then I turned around and one-stoned Nebradisk on Legend with Arashi's Abyss Neptune, which could have been a no-stone if I'd remembered I had enough stuff to obtain a Wood Samurai Ogre for the needed attacks. I forgot that Hydra's Poison doesn't exactly work if there's a status shield up. orz
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on December 31, 2013, 08:03:42 AM
lolol, twinlits descended
Any moctizlers ready for them?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 31, 2013, 08:14:29 AM
Venus and Mystic Ice Knight for my godfest draws. Do I tempt fate with my wallet and buy one more......

(i reeeeeeeally want metatron :( )
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on December 31, 2013, 08:15:43 AM
Kirin (guess I'm awakening mine then :V) and VENUS YAY once I build her up she'll be nice on Bastet or Suzaku.

Can make a third pull after the event stone for Wednesday rolls in. =P
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on December 31, 2013, 08:33:44 AM
My pulls this Godfest in order, bolded being the shit i'm really excited about

Underlord Hades
Shardran
Hades
Salamander
Mystic Stone Knight
Neptune
Fairlion
Blue Odin
Sea Serpent
Incarnation of Byakko, Haku
Incarnation of Byakko, Haku (Yes, times 2)

Yomi
Salamander
Succubus
Red Toy
Dark Metatron
Incarnation of Kirin, Sakuya

For once I actually completed a Godfest with stones left over.. The only thing i'm missing is Lucifer, Kushinada, and UmiYama and I'd rather save my stones for whatever ridiculous Godfest they're planning as a follow-up to this.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on December 31, 2013, 08:36:00 AM
Yay grats rdj!
You too arashi! 2 gods in 2 pulls is pretty nice... you seem to attract light gods like I attract dark =P.

Anyway I can only pull 6 times so far, need 1 more stone for 7th.
succubus (doh),
........ Game not responding, blarg....
it wanted me to check mail, it always does that when I'm trying to do something else argh.
mermaid(ugh)
mountain twins(yay! I'm a shota dealer now!)
Uriel (I already have one, doh)
Haku (already have one, but a 2nd is nice! damn girl, she really likes me).
final egg.. it's gold! ITS GOLD... ecchnida?!..

So 3 gods in 6 pulls is pretty good, uriel is a bust though, having more than one of him is pretty useless since I never even use the one I already have. a 2nd haku on the other hand is way more useful, she's a great sub for herself! But... While that's nice, she just isn't QUITE as exciting as most of the other godfest gods I could get, so while cool, not the uber droolfest that others are.

And mountain twins, I'm glad I got some kind of super extreme spike damage lead now so I have a snowballs chance of doing stuff that demands more than haku, but I'm not a shotacon, doh.

I'm not really sure how I feel, I'm kinda bummed I didn't get one of the gods I really wanted (and there were quite a few so chances weren't that low), but I don't feel ripped off either.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 31, 2013, 08:44:04 AM
Yomi
Dark Metatron


For once I actually completed a Godfest with stones left over.. The only thing i'm missing is Lucifer, Kushinada, and UmiYama and I'd rather save my stones for whatever ridiculous Godfest they're planning as a follow-up to this.

diusahdiausdhasiudhasiudasd luckyyyyyyyyyyyy

>stones left over

how

Either way, overall, I'm happy. Love Deity Chaos Venus will be a perfect fit for my Lucifer, Suzaku, or UmiYama. Especially the latter two because combos~
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on December 31, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
Also while JP's godfest is significantly less exciting, my alt got 2 Baals (whaaaaat), a Machine Golem Mk. II, and a Sylph. I guess I really do attract light monsters. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on December 31, 2013, 09:50:57 AM
For once I actually completed a Godfest with stones left over.. The only thing i'm missing is Lucifer, Kushinada, and UmiYama and I'd rather save my stones for whatever ridiculous Godfest they're planning as a follow-up to this.

You mean the terrible one that usually follows? :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on December 31, 2013, 10:08:43 AM
You mean the terrible one that usually follows? :v

Nah, knowing GungHo they're going to do the new Hero godfest in a couple of weeks or something, before people have a chance to stock up stones. :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on December 31, 2013, 01:22:13 PM
That was bizarre.

Fairlio
Umisachi / Yamasachi
Fairlio
Fairlio

I mean, I wanted an Angelion for my healer team, but... weird <_<

UmiYama is nice too!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on December 31, 2013, 01:40:09 PM
Sylph
Flame Guardian
Odin (where I still need to evolve #1)
Mystic Light Knight

That's OK Godfest, I didn't really want those stones anyway they were just cluttering up my account.
 :fail: :fail: :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Sophilia on December 31, 2013, 02:02:57 PM
Ifrit
Kushinada
Dark golem

Double Minoriko?  Don't mind if I do!  Still no good light dudes though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 31, 2013, 02:47:29 PM
Ice Golem
+1 Viper Orochi
VENUS o/

I am overall very pleased with the past couple of days.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on December 31, 2013, 02:59:57 PM
Been distracted by other games so I only had 12 stones, so wit htwo pulls I got

-Toyceratops
-Succubus

No gods, but I'm actually pretty happy about te toydragon since it will help for my wood team if I ever get back to this instead of playing with my shiny new 3DS, haha.  Trying to think what I want to shoot for now.  Debating on continuing normals or techs, since I still need to improve before I can do the special ones I will want to.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on December 31, 2013, 03:53:47 PM
Got a titan off my last pull from my last stone... Blargh. Beats mermaid and such but with a godfest this good, i was hoping for a god =p
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2013, 04:13:09 PM
oh hey guys i was in vietnam for two weeks but managed to leech enough free wifi from hotels to grab valk

(http://i.imgur.com/FNZjKoV.png)

who cost me like 15 stones >_>. i had a satan goemon hybrid team that could one hit valk herself but i underestimated the two demons and they just decimated me

well 15 stones is like 3 rem pulls and if i got a valk in 3 pulls then technically i would have considered it a win anyways so eh


and then today TWINLITS

...ate the rest of my stones and i ended up buying some just so i could complete the dungeon ;-;

but at least i got this guy

(http://i.imgur.com/Gz8viHN.png)

and also got one angelit for SUPER ISIS

but now i'm all out of stones and dont really feel like throwing money at the dungeon to try to get the other angelit

well i might as well wait anyways cause she isnt out yet and i need to wait for the ragnarok dungeon to get the optimal Physical Isis team anyways

plus I finally got valk so i might was well play around with healer Isis for a bit first, then unevo her and change her to the physical form once twinlit rolls around again
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on December 31, 2013, 07:44:28 PM
Nah, knowing GungHo they're going to do the new Hero godfest in a couple of weeks or something, before people have a chance to stock up stones. :colonveeplusalpha:

Eh. Possibly.

The heroic gods look pretty cool, but in reality they're nothing to write home about honestly.

Like, they're probably flat out worse than Isis. BV
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2013, 08:39:32 PM
the're getting buffed already lol just like how some of the Japanese gods were buffed/tweaked right when they were released

also apparently the fruit dragons are REM? which sucks because you cant farm all those awakenings that way :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on December 31, 2013, 08:45:18 PM
the're getting buffed already lol just like how some of the Japanese gods were buffed/tweaked right when they were released

also apparently the fruit dragons are REM? which sucks because you cant farm all those awakenings that way :/

lol REM awakening based monsters

FARM THOSE TAMADRAS FOOLS BV

and oh pdx hasn't updated their actual pages with the buff.

That makes them... Huhm. I'll have to get back to you on that, their original was just flat out hillariously terrible- this atleast has some scaling but I'm honestly still considering calling it trash.

Buns out on this one. I still probably want a china waifu first though :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on December 31, 2013, 09:56:21 PM
So MJP and my brother both rolled Sylphs today to go along with mine :fail:
Except my brother also scored Bastet to join the CATTE ORCHESTRA so at least one of us got something rocking.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 01, 2014, 02:34:11 AM
Got my 250 day bonus today so surprise! Extra pull!

Just a Vampire but at least he was kind enough to give a skillup. (Fuck nooooooooooo I am not evolving heartbreakers for awakenings, even though they're farmable I'll use tamas if I want to awaken those on that exp curve. -_-;)

Speaking of, I think I'm actually gonna aim for dark/water Vamp rather than water/dark because I do think mine's still mostly gonna see use as a sub. (Plus I doubt I can handle twinlits yet anyway, and I can reverse it later if I want to change. :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 01, 2014, 02:57:29 AM
I've been working my way through dungeons I am now able to handle after I spent a couple weeks focusing on grinding. So now I have 3 stones. If I get one more I could buy the 6-pack and get 2 pulls...


..or I could save my money, clear one dungeon, and get tomorrow's daily stone and get one. Gotta be reasonable here >.o
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 01, 2014, 03:03:03 AM
I've been working my way through dungeons I am now able to handle after I spent a couple weeks focusing on grinding. So now I have 3 stones. If I get one more I could buy the 6-pack and get 2 pulls...


..or I could save my money, clear one dungeon, and get tomorrow's daily stone and get one. Gotta be reasonable here >.o

GET 85 STONES

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2014, 03:10:36 AM
nobu pls
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 01, 2014, 03:14:33 AM
GET 85 STONES

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

nobu no stop

nobu put the credit card down NO DON'T GIVE IT STRAIGHT TO GUNGHO

Edit: wait son of a bitch me posting after suikama makes an isis combo
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 01, 2014, 04:53:34 AM
If Suikama posted after you, it would be Isis: *rolling* *rolling* *rolling* Evolved!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 01, 2014, 05:06:09 AM
Well then. SUIKAMA YOU KNOW WHAT YOU MUST DO.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 01, 2014, 07:57:07 AM
I got a Neptune. I don't know what to do with him
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 01, 2014, 08:50:43 AM
I got a Neptune. I don't know what to do with him

Love him. Love him like your own son. not sun i am drunk
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 01, 2014, 09:45:22 AM
nobu no stop

nobu put the credit card down NO DON'T GIVE IT STRAIGHT TO GUNGHO


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it's too late for me

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 01, 2014, 09:45:34 AM
Love him. Love him like your own son. not sun i am drunk

Quote from: Chaore on IRC
<Chaore> fpr a secpnmd o tjpig tjpse saoid gpp,y gor; and ot was a,ra

You are super drunk.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Sophilia on January 01, 2014, 02:25:22 PM
Got enough for one more roll...and it was Lucifer.  Right after feeding my gift dragon to the 'Sachis, of course, so yay grinding even more.  Weirdly I'm actually more excited that he fills the light slot on my umiyama team than for Luci/Luci massacres even though team cost hates me.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 01, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
Got another draw but it was just Naga. Fusing it onto Echidna did nothing, sadly.

More importantly though!

(http://i.imgur.com/tq0Z3x8.png)

oh yes

I had to sacrifice one of my useful dub-mythlits for it but it's gonna be sooooo worth it
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 01, 2014, 05:39:36 PM
Did one more roll and I got Okunisushi. I'm okay with this.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 01, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
And my final pull (unless I buy, like, a 6-stone pack for the new year, which I suppose wouldn't be entirely unreasonable as long as I stick to that little) was a Fairlio, so I guess I'm awakening my Angelion. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 01, 2014, 08:52:05 PM
My three fairlios are high fiving yours
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 01, 2014, 08:55:59 PM
My three fairlios are high fiving yours

I remember the time I literally pulled back-to-back Pierdra. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 01, 2014, 08:59:01 PM
My three fairlios are high fiving yours

I picture the event looking like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40kPEjZpM8M).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 02, 2014, 12:29:57 AM
Did silly new years pulls :v

Titan, Dino Rider, Evolved Agdrall, Cupid, Alraune, and something also terrible.

I missed the godfest -seven times-.

Behold the power of my luck.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 02, 2014, 01:03:12 AM
bleh, so i was thinking the Ragnarok collab was super easy and I could get Hrungnir no problem

but it turns out it's a conditional dungeon where the maximum star cost is 4... >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 02, 2014, 05:59:39 AM
Isis combo!
well, I pulled 6 times: 4 mehtrash, another Luci, and an Uzume. She seems kind of poor, given how low red's RCV is.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 02, 2014, 06:21:54 AM
HAHAHA FINALLY

FUCK YOU ZEUS

And all my stones are now gone, but I never have to do his stupid dungeon again hooray.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 02, 2014, 05:15:33 PM
oh hey more suzaku (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=37555837)

also a bunch of art for the new isis <3

also this (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=40294001)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 02, 2014, 05:53:40 PM
Oh god I went into the 4th water conditional without any poison or armor break because fuck water type I have like nothing, I took blue odin as my buddy but still
SEND HELP
GONNA CRY
SEE YOU IN A MONTH

edit: doh I had angry bird sitting in my box ffffff I hate this dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2014, 01:15:57 AM
Quote
Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Bat-rem!
omg pad wiki pls
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 03, 2014, 10:18:11 AM
> runs a ton of Friday dungeon to get two dub-mythlits to evolve Byakko and busty Hades

> Finally gets two, Byakko is happily evo'd, lv 54, and awoken once

> "Huh the busty for Hades needs three Dub-Amelits. Good thing I ran spirits so many times. *checks box*

> 9 Dub-Topalits, 0 Dub-Amelits

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2014, 12:59:02 PM
lol REM awakening based monsters

FARM THOSE TAMADRAS FOOLS BV

and oh pdx hasn't updated their actual pages with the buff.

That makes them... Huhm. I'll have to get back to you on that, their original was just flat out hillariously terrible- this atleast has some scaling but I'm honestly still considering calling it trash.

Buns out on this one. I still probably want a china waifu first though :v
aaaand they're being buffed AGAIN

now it's 2.5x for 5 orbs, 3x for 6, 3.5x for 7, and 4x for 8.


also made a pad herder cause bored (http://www.padherder.com/user/Suikama/)

why does it give MAX level guys MAX priority now i have all these blobs at the top of my list but i only really care about bubblie and shynee :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Sophilia on January 03, 2014, 02:53:51 PM
Hey, vampire dungeon.  Well I'll just run that and Friday dungeon, I need lots of dublits...

So of course today has to be super blue dragons day.  Rank 73 is suffering.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2014, 03:07:36 PM
team waifu is go (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=493.99.1.66.57.80.3..201.81.6.11.25.6.3..226.63.1.0.0.0.0..649.40.1.0.0.0.0..597.29.1.0.0.0.0..888.99.1.0.0.0.0..)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 03, 2014, 05:46:58 PM
team waifu is go (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=493.99.1.66.57.80.3..201.81.6.11.25.6.3..226.63.1.0.0.0.0..649.40.1.0.0.0.0..597.29.1.0.0.0.0..888.99.1.0.0.0.0..)

I'd make team waifu too but I can't fit Mercury Light Carbuncle and both busty Yomis on the same team :fail:


A rank 46 max awakened Firedragon Tyrranos wants to be my friend. :V Seeing that this morning brightened my day.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2014, 05:51:42 PM
I'd make team waifu too but I can't fit Mercury Light Carbuncle and both busty Yomis on the same team :fail:


A rank 46 max awakened Firedragon Tyrranos wants to be my friend. :V Seeing that this morning brightened my day.
yomi is a dude though :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 03, 2014, 05:59:54 PM
yomi is a dude though :derp:

One ult evo is male, the other is female :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 03, 2014, 06:20:39 PM
Man I love having a reliable strategy for collecting dub-mythlits. I've got like five or six of them now! And I have all the dub-amelits I need for ultimate evolving Love Deity Venus once I evolve her the first time.

Also got a vampire on my first try. Fuck yeah I finally have a heart converter o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 03, 2014, 11:08:11 PM
In Touhou, Tsukuyomi is male. This is a Touhou board, so he is male.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2014, 11:11:02 PM
One ult evo is male, the other is female :V
so uh which is which :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 03, 2014, 11:18:15 PM
who even cares I just know I want one :(

On the other hand I'm gonna have Love Deity Chaos Venus soon so that will be sufficient :3c
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 03, 2014, 11:32:07 PM
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=990 is the female version, the other one's male
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=990 is the female version, the other one's male
lol the sword is different in the icon and the full picture

in the icon you can see the blade but in the full picture there's purple shit flying everywhere :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 03, 2014, 11:48:11 PM
lol the sword is different in the icon and the full picture

in the icon you can see the blade but in the full picture there's purple shit flying everywhere :V

Probably because the purple shit wouldn't look good since you wouldn't really be able to tell that it's a sword. It's obvious that it's a sword in the full art, but it wouldn't in the icon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 04, 2014, 12:36:14 AM
aaaand they're being buffed AGAIN

now it's 2.5x for 5 orbs, 3x for 6, 3.5x for 7, and 4x for 8.

still out on it

5 orbs is okay but that's really weak at that point, and their big damage is pretty inconsistent

honestly i'd say they're pretty poor for burst and too gimmicky
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 04, 2014, 08:24:49 AM
still out on it

5 orbs is okay but that's really weak at that point, and their big damage is pretty inconsistent

honestly i'd say they're pretty poor for burst and too gimmicky

Not to mention the ability is counter-synergistic with most of the other spike damage leads like any of the Egyptians, Chinese Gods, combo gods, etc...

On the plus side, Andromeda and Pandora are both mega-cute I guess?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 04, 2014, 09:22:23 AM
Not to mention the ability is counter-synergistic with most of the other spike damage leads like any of the Egyptians, Chinese Gods, combo gods, etc...

On the plus side, Andromeda and Pandora are both mega-cute I guess?

I don't think that even matters- with Burst, generally your best matchup and best case scenario is with yourself (The exception being isis because she's bottom-tier, she syncs better with others because their more powerful abilities allow hers to back theirs up, technically, but that's inefficient overall)- and with themselves, they're still gimicky and trash.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 04, 2014, 09:39:37 AM
With Isis and another egyptian/chinese lead, you can choose between 3x and 12-16x rather than choosing between 1x and 16-25x, which can be useful.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 04, 2014, 09:43:24 AM
With Isis and another egyptian/chinese lead, you can choose between 3x and 12-16x rather than choosing between 1x and 16-25x, which can be useful.

Not...really? there's few situations you want 3x other than 'whoops I fucked the hell up, good thing isis is covering my back'. So it's the 'i suck at this game help plz' teams, basically.

Or when you need better than isis. :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 04, 2014, 11:03:10 AM
I don't think that even matters- with Burst, generally your best matchup and best case scenario is with yourself (The exception being isis because she's bottom-tier, she syncs better with others because their more powerful abilities allow hers to back theirs up, technically, but that's inefficient overall)- and with themselves, they're still gimicky and trash.

I'd argue that it also largely depends on your playstyle and proficiency with the particular method. Bastet can pair well with the other combo gods in a similar 'scaling up' matter if you can hit those higher comboes. Bastet is basically the village bicycle when it comes to good pairings.


On another note, there wouldn't happen to be any Dark Metatron users out there, would there?  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 04, 2014, 06:23:16 PM
Not...really? there's few situations you want 3x other than 'whoops I fucked the hell up, good thing isis is covering my back'. So it's the 'i suck at this game help plz' teams, basically.

Or when you need better than isis. :v

Nah. It's mainly the "I can't stall on all three of these guys, so I'll only kill two of them" that the different multiplier comes in handy. If you really need to kill something big. Isis by herself isn't saving you.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 04, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
i may or may not have dropped 2 dollars on stones to grind my way through king ruby dragons but

(http://i.imgur.com/7EQIvkI.png)

it's here

and fully awakened too

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 04, 2014, 09:20:45 PM
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=990 is the female version, the other one's male

where and how did you hear this? Just curious.

I could have guessed the darker one was female though since I attract darks =P.

Anyway, haven't been playing much, prob wont either for awhile, steam sale made me buy so many goodies, if I'm not playing them at home, I'm researching them when I'm not home! =P. Imma hit near level cap to double up on that super gold dragon tomorrow though.

Speaking of which my next goal should be to level in general, I'm at 88 stamina and am kinda close to the point where I can run 2 supers per day instead of 1 (without levels).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2014, 09:23:03 PM
Valk fully evolved yay

except then it turns out super gold kings is tomorrow and i wasted some super blue kings on her >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 04, 2014, 09:56:57 PM
Help I evo'd my Suzaku but I have too many of the decent Suzaku subs wat do
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2014, 10:23:11 PM
sub 1: echidna obviously
sub 2 (green): asgard, top droid
sub 3 (light): apollo, verche, kirin, Ammy?
sub 4: homuhomu, gigas

for sub 2, asgard is generally better but droid has it's obvious niche for friday dungeons and neptunes. he has low rcv but ecchi and the light sub can fill the void
for sub 3, orb changers apollo and verche are good for killing dark orbs, apollo especially since he has better stats and changes dark+heart, kirin is good for bosses, ammy because its ammy and has >9000 rcv
for sub 4, homu+apollo/verche will get rid of all blue/dark orbs and leave you with nothing but good stuff, gigas can work but then you have terrible rcv. you can try angelion as your green sub+gigas to change dark orbs to fire but eh


you're best bet is probably:
Suzaku, Echidna, Asgard, Apollo, Homura

stats might be kinda on the low side because everyone is low level

if you have a mikumiku leek  (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=432)then that could replace asgard for lots of rcv but then your HP would be terrible
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 04, 2014, 10:34:18 PM
Yeah whatever I end up running with I'm gonna start dumping some XP into like I did with my blue team for a while. I extremely tentatively had down Echidna/Gigas/Angelion/Homuhomu but yeah your plan is probably better. :V

Having a Suzaku and the existance of busty Gigas now though does mean I'll probably work towards evolving my Gigas after all especially since he gets light secondary, then I can build my extra Gigas up in case I need the 100 more RCV or the lower cost.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2014, 10:45:20 PM
oh yeah if you ult gigas (busty is such a silly term (unless its a female and they actually get bustier :V)) then you could do a sorta mono fire kinda team with Suzaku, Gigas, Homu, Apollo, and then whatever you want for the final
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 04, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
oh yeah if you ult gigas (busty is such a silly term (unless its a female and they actually get bustier :V))

It isssssssssssssssssss but I kinda like it anyway
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 04, 2014, 11:12:12 PM
You can always throw in Takemina for dual orb enhancement, though maybe not immediately.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 04, 2014, 11:17:29 PM
Yeah this was just more a matter of "what is in my box right now" :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2014, 11:18:52 PM
Takemina is today though so you technically could get one and have a super good suzaku team :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 04, 2014, 11:30:45 PM
Takemina is today though so you technically could get one and have a super good suzaku team :V

pffffffffft yeah ri---

/me looks at suggested teams

... actually maybe I could I have most of the stuff for that Hermes team. >_> All I'd really be missing out on if I try and fail is more rubies anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2014, 11:37:10 PM
also its pretty easy to beat on legend because tricolor
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 04, 2014, 11:45:25 PM
also its pretty easy to beat on legend because tricolor

Yeah I think I'm gonna take a Bastet friend instead of a Kushi friend because 1) I'm not sure I have any Kushi but I do have several Bastets (this is the main point really :V) and 2) while sadly she doesn't cap nearly as high she does at least get buffed by Hermes.

If I do turn out to have any Kushi friends I'll bring her though.

EDIT: or lol yeah a lot of the Legend suggestions are just basic-ass mono-blue (though I don't have a Hera-Is so I have to straight up burst the last bit)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2014, 11:56:49 PM
you could also use my isis since it is a no wood dungeon :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 04, 2014, 11:58:31 PM
you could also use my isis since it is a no wood dungeon :derp:

Yeah true between Hermes and Siegfried I do cover all 3 colors with my blue team. I'd just been looking at the suggestion on Mythical near the top of the suggestions and that has Kushi (presumably just for the combo scaling since that's easy in tricolor)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2014, 11:59:51 PM
on another note, all the guides seem to refer to take as a her but im pretty sure take is a dude like yomi :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2014, 12:03:22 AM
I pretty much got him with mono-blue. I had Hera-Is, but any other stat stick would work. Just take a Midguard when you think he'll use his super move.

As for Yomi, I'm pretty the sure the Yomi in PAD is female. She was in some female gatcha on the JP side a while back.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 05, 2014, 12:09:18 AM
I don't have the stamina anyway until like 1 am so THINKING TIME

Hermes lead with Siren/Siegfried/Ama/Kirin (http://www.padherder.com/user/ArashiKurobara/teams/#12820) gets me a gravity and all 3 colors while taking out the Neptune (since you can't poison the boss anyway :V) and the Kamui (since no wood to change) but I'm not sure if splitting it into two colors so much is gonna hurt me. Everything in there does get the Hermes buff at least. My Neptune *is* at least a pretty good stat stick so if I do want heavier on the blue I'd probably straight up swap him back in for Ama, I'm right at my max cost there (138) but those two have the same cost.

NINJA'd: I don't have a Midgard, only an Asgard and a second-stage red golem. (And a second-stage light one but since light/dark have a different skill that doesn't help much. :V My only option in blue for the RGB golem skill is a Keeper.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 05, 2014, 06:22:21 AM
SUIKAMA I spent all 3 of my stones (one on each of the last three floors) and he had a tiny sliver left and I bet if I'd had your Isis with the extra plusses I'd've done it =P

Oh well, means I can probably do okay if I try again some other time with everyone a bit beefier. ^_^
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 05, 2014, 06:27:06 AM
I also failed to get Bandit Keith. I had the Luci team, but I used the skills in the wrong order and he entered his "now you die IN AMERICA" phase.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 05, 2014, 06:29:46 AM
Oh I'm sure I fucked up plenty too, just that extra little bit of stats I think would have been what I needed to not need a 4th stone. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2014, 07:28:14 AM
I also failed to get Bandit Keith. I had the Luci team, but I used the skills in the wrong order and he entered his "now you die IN AMERICA" phase.

Does he spam it every time like in Hera-Ur, or does he only do it once?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 05, 2014, 07:45:46 AM
Every time.




Because he's American.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2014, 09:58:07 AM
Ah yes.

Flash Bind on floor one of hera-is.

My old nemesis.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 05, 2014, 11:24:19 AM
[attach=1]

5 stones.

:fail:

Yeah, i'm not doing that with a resist team again until I max skill my Echidna. Lv 2 does not cut it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2014, 03:16:32 PM
Got not one but two bane invades :o

Then died to death stroke so that cost one stone >_>

At least I 0 stoned joker
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2014, 05:31:45 PM
Batman collab too hard for me. I just want deathstroke to complete the collection.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2014, 06:11:26 PM
wow

i was trying to make an optimal healer spike team but it turns out THERE ARE NO HEALER TYPE ORB ENHANCERS

all the mythical beasts are attacker, the skill-up foods are balanced, and the descend ones are either physical, devil, or gods

EVERYONE BUT HEALERS

hell even EVO MATERIALS have one
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 05, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=8685

rofl

(This is not me)

i was trying to make an optimal healer spike team but it turns out THERE ARE NO HEALER TYPE ORB ENHANCERS

16x bastet/bastet with king shynee oneshots everything so it doesn't really need orb enhancers :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=8685

rofl

(This is not me)

16x bastet/bastet with king shynee oneshots everything so it doesn't really need orb enhancers :v

Haha...here I was thinking I found Edible.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 05, 2014, 06:47:31 PM
I have an account on there but I never post.

Has anyone done research into umiyama?  I'm trying to build a team based off the one I pulled.  Here's what I have available that's relevant (since he doesn't use fire):

Gods of Hunt, Umisachi & Yamasachi (obvious)
Serpent God Demon Viper Orochi (Big fat slow delay, Echidna's way better but fire subs are useless)
Awoken Hera-IS
Sea Deity Abyss Neptune
Siegfried (no skillups, haven't seen porings since I got him)
Siren (max skill)
Bastet (shut up)
Cu Chu (max skill)
ADK
Valk (max skill)
Awoken Athena
Baal (haven't touched him since I got him, but light/dark element?)
Venus (max skill)
Zeus (maybe if I get twinlits)
D/D Bats (more relevant non-echidna delay)
Gryps Rider Finn (skill seems to work well with the team)
Vamp Lord (still need to evolve him, but at least he's max skilled)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2014, 07:47:22 PM
Since Kirin teams are mostly made up of Echidna + orb changer + gravities, then I'm thinking U&Y would do well with the same


Hera-Is/Vamp for dark
Zeus/Valk for light

although since U&Y have orbchanging actives I would say take gravities over heartbreakers, especially since U&Y are getting skill ups soon-ish

ADK is good for killing fire and functions like Verche on Kirin, same with Siren

Venus is amazing for combo teams, and if you have a dark/light venus then theoretically you could run whatever the fuck you wanted for the other three subs, including echidna


U&Y, Venus, Orochi, Hera-Is, Zeus would probably be optimal for big boss descends. 5 turn delay + 2 gravities + U&Y active + Venus to make a gigantic x25 combo could probably easily kill two Satans. You can replace Orochi with Echidna or Siren to make all that stalling. Awakenings are generally irrelevant for this team except for having auto-heal and skill boost on Venus to help stalling for those gravities.

U&Y, ADK, Valk, Vamp, Siegfried would probably be good for general farming since you have an orb changer for every element, helping ensure you get x25 attack every turn.

U&Y, Athena/Valk, Hera-Is, Echidna, Bastet is literally the perfect monster team if you know what I mean (like holy shit it actually works perfectly)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2014, 08:05:49 PM
I think Siren would be better than ADK. Umiyama already has green, and you're probably making most of the board blue anyway. I'd say take Bats for the delay and hera-Is for the gravity/stats. Not sure what to take for light. Probably Venus.

I think I'd shoot for Hera-Is, Venus, Orochi, Siren, and Seigfried.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2014, 08:17:28 PM
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5 stones.

:fail:

Yeah, i'm not doing that with a resist team again until I max skill my Echidna. Lv 2 does not cut it.


Atleast you got a special dagon?

Meanwhile it took me 7. One because I derped and didn't realize the KILL YOU BEAM dragons continously fired chaos ray >< I thought it was one time like opening mouth was. which well, would make a much better boss frankly.

The rest because I kept getting heart screwed on Hera-is herself jfc hearts hate me. And one from the second binding. I want to figure out how to optimally skip that part but the entire fight is hard because she hits REALLY DAMN HARD and Siren cooldown TOO LONG ;W;

I also ranked up so since I'm a masochist I'm considering trying it again and see if I extremely luck out.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2014, 09:02:43 PM

Atleast you got a special dagon?

Meanwhile it took me 7. One because I derped and didn't realize the KILL YOU BEAM dragons continously fired chaos ray >< I thought it was one time like opening mouth was. which well, would make a much better boss frankly.

The rest because I kept getting heart screwed on Hera-is herself jfc hearts hate me. And one from the second binding. I want to figure out how to optimally skip that part but the entire fight is hard because she hits REALLY DAMN HARD and Siren cooldown TOO LONG ;W;

I also ranked up so since I'm a masochist I'm considering trying it again and see if I extremely luck out.

It took me quite a few stones too(5 I think.) It was pretty annoying because I'd keep healing to 50 from full though. All of my stones were on Hera herself though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 05, 2014, 09:31:11 PM
Ecchi isnt useless with shota twins. Just because she doesnt provide a folour needed for x25 doesnt mean she wont hit x25. I mean as long as you match their 4 colours, ALL your dudes will x25, including red.

I assume thats why you think shes useless wif em, because i dont really see how you'd think such otherwise.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2014, 09:57:36 PM
fglurk. Arkham master is frustrating. Bane. All three times. Come on game. ;w;

Seriously the only way Joker seems possible is burst. And I need my morning stars to burst him... ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2014, 09:58:49 PM
Ecchi isnt useless with shota twins. Just because she doesnt provide a folour needed for x25 doesnt mean she wont hit x25. I mean as long as you match their 4 colours, ALL your dudes will x25, including red.

I assume thats why you think shes useless wif em, because i dont really see how you'd think such otherwise.
you miss out on a bit of damage by having her because when you pop UY's active it kills all red orbs but yeah you dont actually lose out on anything else other than that

fglurk. Arkham master is frustrating. Bane. All three times. Come on game. ;w;

Seriously the only way Joker seems possible is burst. And I need my morning stars to burst him... ;w;
don't you have Horus >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2014, 10:11:40 PM
Ecchi isnt useless with shota twins. Just because she doesnt provide a folour needed for x25 doesnt mean she wont hit x25. I mean as long as you match their 4 colours, ALL your dudes will x25, including red.

I assume thats why you think shes useless wif em, because i dont really see how you'd think such otherwise.

Well, unless you're not using Umiyama's active, you're dependent on sky drops for Echidna, so that's a bit of burst lost there. I can understand why people would put Echidna there though. She gives RCV and the delay is useful since unlike Kirin, shota kirins can't blow all of their cooldowns in one go.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2014, 10:21:26 PM
don't you have Horus >_>

Horus, Yes. Horus friends- Not quite. :v Most of those unfriended me when I started running Luci.

At that an ad-hoc horus team would probably be too squishy and die or i'd mess up combos. Or plain not output enough damage. A lot of my stuff I'd run in Horus isn't fully evo'd etc

Edit: Scratch that, I have a few after all.

...Suikama this is an awful idea and I hate you.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
so uh, anyone remember how long it took for the other ult evos to come out here after they came out in japan? :derp:

Horus, Yes. Horus friends- Not quite. :v Most of those unfriended me when I started running Luci.

At that an ad-hoc horus team would probably be too squishy and die or i'd mess up combos. Or plain not output enough damage. A lot of my stuff I'd run in Horus isn't fully evo'd etc

Edit: Scratch that, I have a few after all.

...Suikama this is an awful idea and I hate you.
hey if you cant match horus

you can always use isis :smug:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 05, 2014, 11:00:51 PM
Takeminimouse Legendary Trip Report with Ares & (Fire) Friends:

1) Died on final boss fuck you attack.  PDX said he hit for 22k, which is kid stuff to mono "I HAVE ALL OF THE HP" red teams so psh whatever who cares.  This apparently did not take into account the double damage move he does GOOD TO KNOW.

2) Used the grid lines from my MAGfest program guide (don't judge me) to figure out exactly where 25% would be so I could Freyr + Goemon/Ares punchpunch.  Hooray I win the prize.... if the prize desired is a chest of money :fail:  At least I got one of the ogre beat 'em up bros from Stage 4 for loot?

3) Leader binds + heart starving = dead on Stage 3 :(

NEXT TIME GADGET
NEXT TIME

As for today, I guess I cooooould try Hera-Is or just run Super Golds twice to fatten up (Valkyrie/Metatron/Baby Metatron/Izanagi/ahhhh)  Guaranteed to succeed in some capacity that way :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 05, 2014, 11:09:24 PM
if you got the purple ogre bro then you can use him to kill a super king :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 05, 2014, 11:28:07 PM
I got the yellow bro :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2014, 11:39:08 PM
I got the yellow bro :(

At least you can use him to kill the black super king.

Though yeah, final attack hurts. I brought a golem and double Sirens just in case anything went wrong.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 05, 2014, 11:41:58 PM
Horus, Yes. Horus friends- Not quite. :v Most of those unfriended me when I started running Luci.

At that an ad-hoc horus team would probably be too squishy and die or i'd mess up combos. Or plain not output enough damage. A lot of my stuff I'd run in Horus isn't fully evo'd etc

Edit: Scratch that, I have a few after all.

...Suikama this is an awful idea and I hate you.

pls i use horus too
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 05, 2014, 11:43:17 PM
pls i use horus too

You also have Suikama's Isis and my Kirin.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2014, 11:46:02 PM
hey if you cant match horus

you can always use isis :smug:

Hahahaha fuck no. I need burst, not limp-handed slaps B)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 05, 2014, 11:46:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/hVoH3FO.png)

can we just take a moment to observe how glorious double umiyama is

like that's a p consistent fuckoff blast that puts luci to shame I love it
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2014, 11:49:25 PM

can we just take a moment to observe how glorious double umiyama is

like that's a p consistent fuckoff blast that puts luci to shame I love it

Well to be fair, that's about 1.5x a luci blast... with about an eigth or ninth of the HP B)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 05, 2014, 11:55:49 PM
It's definitely more dangerous but you can use that power so much more often, I love it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 05, 2014, 11:58:13 PM
It's definitely more dangerous but you can use that power so much more often, I love it.

Yeah. >: Luci needs skill ups, Gungho please buff luci ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 06, 2014, 12:17:16 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8Jns4cJ.png)

lol those curves
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 12:17:59 AM
luci got fucked ever since they started releasing burst only descends

Satan, Athena, Takemina, Beelzebub, Koryu, Twinlits, Izanami, and Dragon Fruit (seriously 1 MILLION DAMAGE DEALING FLOWERS WHAT THE FUCK)


also i beat Joker fine with Isis get on my level

(http://i.imgur.com/8Jns4cJ.png)

lol those curves
i want those skill boosts ;_;


oh hey my max skilled mastering finally has a use

it can kill poison orbs :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 01:17:39 AM
luci got fucked ever since they started releasing burst only descends

Satan, Athena, Takemina, Beelzebub, Koryu, Twinlits, Izanami, and Dragon Fruit (seriously 1 MILLION DAMAGE DEALING FLOWERS WHAT THE FUCK)


also i beat Joker fine with Isis get on my level

Not really he does fine in a lot of shit he shouldn't, and even if he can't do everything like the special snowflake burst teams, he can do a good majority of stuff. He's honestly fine as is and a bit ridiculous since he's really easy to use.

Most of those do have those little fuck yous to luci though, which makes me flutter my eyes at gungho's hatred for Luci.

I honestly don't expect he'll actually ever get a buff beyond a copy pasta ulti. Infact I bet his ulti would make him worse.


Also you probably did that with horusu or a better friend leader so I might as well just use the superior lead for an easier time B) (and fuck working around showtime actually, seriously comboing with a board filled with poison and blocks does not sound fun)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 01:32:50 AM
I cleared it with Double Isis

Thing about Joker is they seems to have changed his abilities and PDX hasn't taken note of it.

iirc the fight went something like

Joker appears and uses It's Showtime!
T1 Pop Ecchi, clear dummy orbs
T2 Attack
T3 Attack
T4 Joker hits me with killing joke, I pop Isis heals and attack
T5 Joker uses poison, I pop Asgard and clear poison with heart orbs
T6 Joker hits me for reduced damage, I heal/attack
T7 Joker hits me for reduced damage, I heal/attack
T8 Joker hits me for reduced damage, I heal/attack
T9 Joker poisons again, I attack without popping any poison orbs
T10 Joker was supposed to kill me here, but instead just said "4". I'm guessing it's an additional countdown to when he really uses his OHKO. However lucky for me Ecchi came back up and I used her
T11 Cleared poison with heart orbs
T12 Attack
T13 Killed him
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 01:49:45 AM
The four turns countdown is indeed before he murders you (as I found out earlier)

And even with you explaining it that really sounds like you should've been murdered at some point.

...honestly if I try master again I'll just roll the dice, The horus team would be way too squishy and i'd die, I need sheer levels like you seem to have. (Have you taken a look at my pad suikama I updated it! Look at -how much shit I have to level-)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 01:51:01 AM
this is why i spend weeks doing nothing but pengdra farming :derp:


speaking of exp farming...

time for SUPER GOLDSSSSS


oh wow you actually have the optimal horus team

Horus, Ecchi, Susanoo, Orochi, Hera

if you're wondering who the light sub is, it's Ult Horus
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 01:56:46 AM
Also fuck you now that you said that I am looking at Koryuu and trying to puzzle out this dungeon jesus why
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 01:58:23 AM
Koryu is super easy sauce compared to this stupid dungeon (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=594)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 02:05:34 AM
Koryu is super easy sauce compared to this stupid dungeon (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=594)

>Hera-is with binds all the time

NO FUCK YOU
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 06, 2014, 02:08:31 AM
Omg isis you effing septuple poster, calm down.

As for luci, i have one and while a buff wouldnt hurt i have to say hes still very useful to have and i cant complain. Vrita on the other hand needs a buff. Devil luci needs one too, and i still think norse gods are kinda lame.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 02:12:37 AM
Omg isis you effing septuple poster, calm down.

As for luci, i have one and while a buff wouldnt hurt i have to say hes still very useful to have and i cant complain. Vrita on the other hand needs a buff. Devil luci needs one too, and i still think norse gods are kinda lame.

Most of the gaming needs a buff :v Unfortunately Gungho cares mostly for few (why would you even give isis an ulti, none the less horusu)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 02:13:46 AM
man these japanese players

>sees a video of zeus clearing koryu

oh man you can clear koryu even with a x10.5 team?! (one ult zeus)

>players does at least 8 combos every turn

oh >_>

might as well just use robin >_>

Most of the gaming needs a buff :v Unfortunately Gungho cares mostly for few (why would you even give isis an ulti, none the less horusu)
i think they're just giving every single REM god an ulti 'eventually'
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 02:16:19 AM
man these japanese players

>sees a video of zeus clearing koryu

oh man you can clear koryu even with a x10.5 team?! (one ult zeus)

>players does at least 8 combos every turn

oh >_>

might as well just use robin >_>

Gravities, though. Robin's active is....okay? Getting real use out of it is kinda tough.

Also did Japan even get Batman?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 02:26:25 AM
im pretty sure they did

i dont think gungho would ever screw over their main area :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 06, 2014, 02:29:53 AM
rofl

(This is not me)

I actually saw them and wondered if they were you. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 05:17:16 AM
SUIKAMA GET YOUR ISIS ON

I'M YOLOING THIS SHIT SINCE I GOT BANE -FOR THE FOURTH TIME IN A ROW-

WE DOING THIS ISISxHORUSU STYLE

EDIT: SUIKAMA I AM LOOKING AT THE RAW STATS AND THIS IS SO BEYOND YOLO I SWEAR
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 06, 2014, 06:14:26 AM
You oughta look out.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 06, 2014, 06:15:29 AM
Suikama's probably sleeping. He's EST isn't he. I know I should be sleeping.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 06:16:33 AM
He likely is actually. Which is annoying because I really need the raw stats he offers :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 06:36:28 AM
you're lucky I'm still fucking jet lagged

*tries to go back to sleep*
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 06:42:40 AM
you're lucky I'm still fucking jet lagged

*tries to go back to sleep*

I MAY HAVE ALREADY GONE WITH A HORUS WHO HAD GOOD ENOUGH STATS

THE GOOD NEWS IS I HORUSED HARD ENOUGH AND I HAVE THE JOKER

THANK YOU ANYWAY SUIKAMA
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 11:23:40 AM
welcome to the best leader in the gametm*

*along with kirin and dark metatron
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 06, 2014, 12:13:01 PM
UY is same tier as Kirin.
I wonder if I should work on my Kirin team. It would take so much farming for skillups though. Ecchidna, Verche,  Valk ...
Bleh spike teams.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 12:31:36 PM
welcome to the best leader in the gametm*

*along with kirin and dark metatron

Yeah I may have to consider putting together a solid Horus team now. Especially now that I actually looked at the egyptian ultis and seen light horus is actually fucking ridiculous.

Like. Levels of 'lets fucking do athena son' ridiculous. (I'd do athena ifykwim etc.)

Really theres kind of a lot to say about the egyptian ultis (they're op pieces of shit basically, regulating other gods to subs by default- until the chinese gods get ultis get hyped and stomped on scrublord egyptians) but i've been up about 36 hours or so.

UY is same tier as Kirin.

eh he's viable, stretch to say he's as great though
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 06, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
Nebradiiiiiiiiiiiiisk you are mine you are my first biweekly dragon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 06, 2014, 02:58:26 PM
Nebradiiiiiiiiiiiiisk you are mine you are my first biweekly dragon

o/

It's Emergency Odin!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 03:00:10 PM
Nebradiiiiiiiiiiiiisk you are mine you are my first biweekly dragon

Yayyy I need to work on getting him :v (I forgot siren on my attempt a bit ago)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 06, 2014, 03:01:20 PM
\o/

It's Emergency Odin!

Yep!

I probably even could have done Legend but I fucked up and 5-matched and turned on the Werewolves wave 1. :V Got lucky with the Master drop this morning though.

Fuck it maybe I'll even try farming Nebradisks some this week, get the awakenings and hopefully some skillups. (Also work in Expert at some point because I'll need it for the stone.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 03:31:47 PM
o/

It's Emergency Odin!
Better than Odin if it weren't for the zero RCV :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
Better than Odin if it weren't for the zero RCV :V

And the shittonne less HP to absorb hits with, along with the 5% less absorbed damage.

But hey Swapping!!!!!!

Edit: Oh also worse awakenings.

Edit Edit: And hey there's that pretty nice nuke Odin has, that comes in handy too! Shame you switched that with Swapping!!!!!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 04:07:06 PM
Except with Odin you're stuck with a stall team that can't even survive against any multi hitters, while with Nebra you can run burst damage, then stall with Nebra until Echidna comes up again and then burst some more

Unless you mean Odin as a sub which is eh, he's a nice stat+awakening stick but his active is really meh for burst teams especially with that cooldown (as long as a slime's)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 06, 2014, 04:48:38 PM
Nebradisk in a spike team makes twinlits doable.  Murder devilit, swap nebradisk to leader, charge up skills while angelit flails uselessly against you, swap back, murder angelit.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 09:49:00 PM
Except with Odin you're stuck with a stall team that can't even survive against any multi hitters, while with Nebra you can run burst damage, then stall with Nebra until Echidna comes up again and then burst some more

Unless you mean Odin as a sub which is eh, he's a nice stat+awakening stick but his active is really meh for burst teams especially with that cooldown (as long as a slime's)

well you're still fucked against multi hits so if you need to survive a multihit nebra isn't saving you, oh and you have no auto-heal  since you're actually a burst team so you're susceptible. VERY susceptible to heart screwing and if it's more than a light tap and your 0 rcv piece of shit holds you back from getting to full g fucking g

and that's going to happen because you have to wait 25 turns to switch, unless you skill him up in which case why are you wasting so much time on a shitty alternative to odin that's pretty situational

that 25 turns also makes him useless as an emergency option, you need to specifically plan this shit out

Like if you need to survive something hard just kill it before it hits you like a burst team should, don't try and be fancy with nebra it's not a good idea

he's useless and any situation you really need him you should probably just use odin as a leader

Nebradisk in a spike team makes twinlits doable.  Murder devilit, swap nebradisk to leader, charge up skills while angelit flails uselessly against you, swap back, murder angelit.

alternatively, take orochi instead, and kill devilit in orochi's timestop and then kill angelit using echi

waste a lot less time (by the way what skills do we need to kill angelit that nebra will allow us? gravity hits both (and is also in your dark slot that your lovely piece of shit is taking up now) and you don't really need double gravity, you just need to keep him from hitting you which surprise just having a second menace works)

like

why bother with nebra at all there??? He offers nothing and has straight up poor stats and is a colossal waste of time
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 06, 2014, 10:11:13 PM
that 25 turns also makes him useless as an emergency option, you need to specifically plan this shit out

I take it you aren't familiar with burst teams?  They all require planning for skill charging and usage for any stage that isn't relatively trivial anyway.

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alternatively, take orochi instead, and kill devilit in orochi's timestop and then kill angelit using echi

Can't double-delay an enemy, the one you don't kill in your first attack will kill you.  Also, nebradisk is farmable and orochi is not.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 10:28:03 PM
well you're still fucked against multi hits so if you need to survive a multihit nebra isn't saving you, oh and you have no auto-heal  since you're actually a burst team so you're susceptible. VERY susceptible to heart screwing and if it's more than a light tap and your 0 rcv piece of shit holds you back from getting to full g fucking g

and that's going to happen because you have to wait 25 turns to switch, unless you skill him up in which case why are you wasting so much time on a shitty alternative to odin that's pretty situational

that 25 turns also makes him useless as an emergency option, you need to specifically plan this shit out

Like if you need to survive something hard just kill it before it hits you like a burst team should, don't try and be fancy with nebra it's not a good idea

he's useless and any situation you really need him you should probably just use odin as a leader

alternatively, take orochi instead, and kill devilit in orochi's timestop and then kill angelit using echi

waste a lot less time (by the way what skills do we need to kill angelit that nebra will allow us? gravity hits both (and is also in your dark slot that your lovely piece of shit is taking up now) and you don't really need double gravity, you just need to keep him from hitting you which surprise just having a second menace works)

like

why bother with nebra at all there??? He offers nothing and has straight up poor stats and is a colossal waste of time
yes im just gonna pull an orochi out my ass yay look an orochi

same goes for odin


man i wish i could farm bodin >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 06, 2014, 11:01:39 PM


man i wish i could farm bodin >_>

Don't we all? My team has 18k health when I use him with I&I.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 06, 2014, 11:17:10 PM
I don't even actually care whether or not Nebradisk is any good.

It's the first biweekly dragon I feel like I can farm.

I'm gonna climb the shit out of these blo--- I'M GONNA FARM THE SHIT OUT OF THESE DRAGONS :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 06, 2014, 11:18:31 PM
I take it you aren't familiar with burst teams?  They all require planning for skill charging and usage for any stage that isn't relatively trivial anyway.

it's almost like i was speaking of an emergency option for unplanned situations or something and your point is literally moot

the cooldowns still terrible because it's way too long to be in an adhoc odin wannabee team that's super susceptible to heart screwing (though you can prolly pop ecchi-samas while in)

Can't double-delay an enemy, the one you don't kill in your first attack will kill you.  Also, nebradisk is farmable and orochi is not.

if we need farmable options i'd honestly say double gravity via hera-is/hera and then try to kill both in echi cooldown then using nebra, hera has better stats which will help and gravity is way stronger than swapping!!! will ever be (a glance at youtube suggests a lot of people run single delay for twinlits via trying to kill both before they angrilit so that's probably better than stalling for a second ecchi-sama? it's all japanese to me ;w;)

you don't need to double delay, angrilit doesn't do damage and assuming you kill devilit angelit's turn will be spent doing that, and then you can pop echidna (PDX has a damage value to inform you of how much Angelit will be doing after that, the buff itself doesn't do damage)

yes im just gonna pull an orochi out my ass yay look an orochi

same goes for odin

hopefully you can when orochi gets a skill up mon in the total soon future

loldin you can get through friends if you need his leader (if you need a sub uhm well, You can use Valk for a good green/light? ;w;)

like yeah it sucks but a lot of good useful things are rem  sorry to bring that up

I don't even actually care whether or not Nebradisk is any good.

It's the first biweekly dragon I feel like I can farm.

I'm gonna climb the shit out of these blo--- I'M GONNA FARM THE SHIT OUT OF THESE DRAGONS :getdown:

Atta girl. That's what trophy dragons are really for anyway B)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 06, 2014, 11:46:08 PM
it's almost like i was speaking of an emergency option for unplanned situations or something and your point is literally moot

Again, you're not speaking from a position of experience here and it's kinda showing <_<

If you're in an unplanned situation in any descend where it matters, your only emergency option with a burst team is usually a stone.

The simple fact of the matter is that a Nebradisk on the team offers options a burst team otherwise does not have.  It is certainly not always (or even usually) optimal, but it has a use and can be relatively easily obtained to boot.  Dismissing any option out of hand in a game like this is unwise.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 06, 2014, 11:54:07 PM
hopefully you can when orochi gets a skill up mon in the total soon future
i'm pretty sure it was confirmed

watch it be an invade only + needs evo monster though, like the chinese girls' skill up (yeppp)


also edible for twinlits double delay is fine because you get a free turn when they use ANGRILIT


bleh, the super physical combo Isis team has just awful recovery without BOdin. Even with him you only just hit like 200 RCV. Also it has no delays for stalling/healing back up. At least the team has over 20k HP and only needs 15 or less turns to unleash it's burst.

stupid Bubblie and it's godawful stats. If I just say fuck the slime and replace it with Ecchi then I'll have a Kirin-like team with much more well rounded stats.... and a much smaller burst

meh at least i get both options


...actually the rcv will be fine if i can farm up +99 RCV eggs for everyone :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 07, 2014, 12:05:10 AM
also edible for twinlits double delay is fine because you get a free turn when they use ANGRILIT

Handy!

But still not necessarily useful if your damage output is dependent on a king shynee, for instance, which is why a nebradisk for recharging skills would be useful! \o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2014, 12:17:24 AM
ugh so I'm looking at optimal burst builds

AND ALL OF THEM INVOLVE A MAX SKILLED HERA-IS

i mean i gueeesss im at the point that i can easily farm Hera, and unlike Ecchi her dungeon is guaranteed drop...

but 15 levels pls ;-;


cant i just have a yomi instead ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2014, 01:19:10 AM
Again, you're not speaking from a position of experience here and it's kinda showing <_<

,/eyeflutter

Please dismiss me more edible-senpai, it's not annoying and frankly flat out rude especially when you're not really addressing my argument well at all and dodging around the parts where i'm right.

If you're in an unplanned situation in any descend where it matters, your only emergency option with a burst team is usually a stone.

Edible honey you were the one who called him 'Emergency Odin' which is why I even addressed him as an emergency option.

Perhaps you did not mean in a burst team! I assumed so because switching to a different stall leader in a stall team seems very weird, so I addressed why no he doesn't work as an emergency option.

In short, if you're assuming any inexperience because I addressed him as an emergency option- The concept he was an emergency option was brought up by yourself, so I don't think it's inexperience talking since you've got some burst team experience under your belt.

The simple fact of the matter is that a Nebradisk on the team offers options a burst team otherwise does not have.  It is certainly not always (or even usually) optimal, but it has a use and can be relatively easily obtained to boot.  Dismissing any option out of hand in a game like this is unwise.

Edible.

This is literally the game that has choked out former leader options via making a complete new meta where burst is the word.

No not really.

Handy!

But still not necessarily useful if your damage output is dependent on a king shynee, for instance, which is why a nebradisk for recharging skills would be useful! \o/

Wow! I completely said this and you completely ignored that to be dismissive, rude, and undermine my knowledge of a subject by making blatantly false claims!

You're sure as hell being a complete asswipe as well as wrong today edible!

P.S. Now this is a new situation you could've brought up and elaborated instead of being a dismissive asshat!

Healer teams are weird burst teams and could make Nebra work, because they have disgusting RCV and can run siren.

it doesn't work anyway because you cut two slots of damage to make this shit work and you end up not outputting enough to actually be a burst team anymore and for harder descends yeah that's gonna screw you.

Don't do it. Also don't try to run it without siren because Nebra is a sub-par stall because he dies in two hits period if you're out of hearts you've basically fucked yourself and hey I have experience with stall so let me tell you -that fucking happens-. And I have experience with long cooldowns because I run luci so let me tell you THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN OVER A LONG COOLDOWN AND SIRENS GONNA BE 'NAH I'M ON COOLDOWN BRO'.

So uh, No I hate to break your dreams Nebra isn't going to be very useful for getting King Shynee up. You're probably better off trying to maximize damage with the one shot of him you -do- have edible.

You're free to try it, but you're likely going to stone and honestly might get screwed if you can't get enough out of your two shynee shots.

Like, Especially if you're wanting to try it for twinlits- Fairlion would be a better slot in because hes on color and an orb changer to set up mass attacks, and just add venus.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2014, 01:44:56 AM
i dont see why youre always so quick to dismiss other people as 'asswipes' when you're most often the most abrasive person in this thread
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2014, 01:56:03 AM
Oh my fucking god, will all of you cut it out? This is pointless and unproductive.

It's done. No more of this shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 07, 2014, 02:03:55 AM
Let's all go watch speedruns! o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2014, 02:08:44 AM
im sorry mats ill go back to failing at farming saphlits

why wont they drop this is a 3 stam dungeon and yet ive spent so much
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2014, 02:11:03 AM
For the same reason I haven't been able to get violet demon masks to evolve my Vampire. Stupid rare drops :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 07, 2014, 02:16:20 AM
Please dismiss me more edible-senpai, it's not annoying and frankly flat out rude especially when you're not really addressing my argument well at all and dodging around the parts where i'm right.

My apologies.  I feel I am addressing the core elements of points you may be trying to make, namely the dismissal of nebradisk as an option as he is an inferior choice to other critters.

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Edible honey you were the one who called him 'Emergency Odin' which is why I even addressed him as an emergency option.

'Emergency Odin' can be taken three ways, I suppose.  The first would be as a ghetto odin substitute, good for sleeping through normal dungeons.  The second would be as I described him above.  The third would be what I believe was your intended use, as an emergency option for unplanned situations, which we've addressed.  I meant the first two and you meant the third, which is where our disagreement lies.

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Healer teams are weird burst teams and could make Nebra work, because they have disgusting RCV and can run siren.

it doesn't work anyway because you cut two slots of damage to make this shit work and you end up not outputting enough to actually be a burst team anymore and for harder descends yeah that's gonna screw you.

Don't do it. Also don't try to run it without siren because Nebra is a sub-par stall because he dies in two hits period if you're out of hearts you've basically fucked yourself and hey I have experience with stall so let me tell you -that fucking happens-. And I have experience with long cooldowns because I run luci so let me tell you THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN OVER A LONG COOLDOWN AND SIRENS GONNA BE 'NAH I'M ON COOLDOWN BRO'.

Angelit converts random orbs to hearts when it attacks, every turn, unless it's below 20% HP (at which point it murders you), meaning Siren is not necessary to bring along.  Healing in this situation becomes trivial, which is one of the reasons why a nebradisk works well here.

I apologize if I have come across as rude; we appear to have had differing interpretations of the actual subject matter being discussed.  I hope we can move on without continuing further non-game-related remarks.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2014, 02:17:53 AM
i thought ice maze was supposed to have the best water pengdra drop rate

but then i did twilight woods and got 5 blue pengdra in a row!?


and again, 4 pengdra in a row, and once more 4 pengdra

i have been living a lie this whole time


>trying to get a mid mask

[STAMINA WASTING INTENSIFIES]
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 07, 2014, 02:44:54 AM
I dumped about 70 stamina trying to get a red demon mask today, what fun :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2014, 02:47:20 AM
i thought there had to be at least one other dungeon with mid masks since final masks and dublits are in both technicals

BUT NOPE! wednesday or tier 3's only :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 07, 2014, 03:06:14 AM
SO HOW ABOUT THEM FLAME MECHDRAGON SUZAKU SKILLUP MONSTERS
I somehow think this is a task not worth starting given the drop:stamina rate and then I see that Metatron get skill ups in a similar fashion and I kinda want those, since I'm thinking of giving her two tamadra + my 2nd Meta = bind resist/recovery funtimes but but that drop rate on top of skill up hell :(

I dumped about 70 stamina trying to get a red demon mask today, what fun :v
Did you ever get it?  (I hope I wasn't wrong on the dungeon it'd be in)
Or just roll the friendegg machine 20 times :V :V :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2014, 03:11:06 AM
SO HOW ABOUT THEM FLAME MECHDRAGON SUZAKU SKILLUP MONSTERS
I somehow think this is a task not worth starting given the drop:stamina rate and then I see that Metatron get skill ups in a similar fashion and I kinda want those, since I'm thinking of giving her two tamadra + my 2nd Meta = bind resist/recovery funtimes but but that drop rate on top of skill up hell :(
Did you ever get it?  (I hope I wasn't wrong on the dungeon it'd be in)
Or just roll the friendegg machine 20 times :V :V :V
it's a mere 4-5% chance of getting one

then you have to feed it a pengdra

then evolve it

just to try to get one skillup :V


the low invade rate is probably the worst part especially since it's a 50 stam dungeon

and the easier difficulties have an even lower invade rate iirc
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2014, 03:14:08 AM
My apologies.  I feel I am addressing the core elements of points you may be trying to make, namely the dismissal of nebradisk as an option as he is an inferior choice to other critters.

You were not, unfortunately. You were simply picking a single part of my argument and calling me inexperienced actually. It was rather frustrating, and on 40+ hours of little to no sleep and with some stress I may have snapped a bit hard and I apologize.

You very much did not discuss why he still has a spot, which is why I haven't really gone into why without support he's far too weak to hold up a proper stall, and how wasting slots in burst to make support dramatically lowers damage which is very inefficient and will make the team fall- which is why he's not a proper option at all in burst, frankly. I also find the idea of getting skills back up somewhat mixed though my minds a bit too fuzzy to properly express why for king slime teams I think it might not be strong enough (except perhaps for draggie knight, but ADK teams....ADK teams.) it's certainly nowhere near as strong for non-slime teams.

In short, I believe he's not a proper option so much as a trap.

'Emergency Odin' can be taken three ways, I suppose.  The first would be as a ghetto odin substitute, good for sleeping through normal dungeons.  The second would be as I described him above.  The third would be what I believe was your intended use, as an emergency option for unplanned situations, which we've addressed.  I meant the first two and you meant the third, which is where our disagreement lies.

The first is okay I guess? I'd straight up just get an actual Odin friend however, since most odin players seem very generous and Odin is overwhelmingly stronger than Nebradisk as a leader. At that, the ad-hoc Ama you can farm (Siren) is incredibly strong still and farmable on a much easier basis! There is nothing too wrong, and while his stats are subpar he should handle most normal dungeons alright.

The second I believe is for getting skills up- Again, my minds a bit fuzzy for this one but I believe it's too weak in non-slime teams and mixed for slime teams, especially due to him needing support really. Not really a good use for him.

The third was how I interpreted it and we both agree he can't possible work for it.

Angelit converts random orbs to hearts when it attacks, every turn, unless it's below 20% HP (at which point it murders you), meaning Siren is not necessary to bring along.  Healing in this situation becomes trivial, which is one of the reasons why a nebradisk works well here.

This may legitimately be the one niche use for nebradisk then.

Just uh, word of warning- If Angelit drops below 50% (He's going to drop below 50% because you're going to do AOE burst damage of atleast 1.7 mil to destroy devilit with a healer team which will leave him at 25%) so you need to bait that out since it's aimed directly at leaders before you swap.

And uhm, Even then to kill Devilit that leaves about 5% leeway before angelit goes straight up fuck your shit so if you accidentally do too MUCH damage... uhm. May have issue.

So yeah playing with fire.

Also in addition to this I may note that an ultra gravity does 30% and would kill both of them straight up.

So using nebradisk is actually fairly dangerous and completely unnecessary assuming you can do 1.7 mil burst with a healer team -1 slot.

So uh while he works, he's actually the run around and unnecessary option for the job.

I apologize if I have come across as rude; we appear to have had differing interpretations of the actual subject matter being discussed.  I hope we can move on without continuing further non-game-related remarks.

I accept your apology and apologize for snapping a bit hard, I'm very often abrasive as I'm somewhat blunt in how I speak- but i really don't mean much vitrol and generally care and enjoy most people in this thread. Except suikama.

Suikama's a jerk.

(i'm joking ilu suikama)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 07, 2014, 03:17:34 AM
SO HOW ABOUT THEM FLAME MECHDRAGON SUZAKU SKILLUP MONSTERS
I somehow think this is a task not worth starting given the drop:stamina rate

Yeah I am nooooooooooooooot bothering between that and having to evo them (at least not yet, we'll probably have it again in a whole bunch of months or so :V).

At least you don't have to evo anything for Nebradisk skillups. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 07, 2014, 03:22:16 AM
SO HOW ABOUT THEM FLAME MECHDRAGON SUZAKU SKILLUP MONSTERS

I read somewhere that the invade rate for chasers is something like 1 in 50


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Did you ever get it?  (I hope I wasn't wrong on the dungeon it'd be in)

Yeah I did get one.  Which means TIME FOR EVOLVED GOEMON... tomorrow when I get a red keeper
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2014, 03:38:41 AM
I read somewhere that the invade rate for chasers is something like 1 in 50


Yeah I did get one.  Which means TIME FOR EVOLVED GOEMON... tomorrow when I get a red keeper
so that's like 50*50=2500 Stam for a chaser*5=12500 Stam per skill up*6=75000 Stam for a max skilled girl

Sounds legit

Even if that was for the easiest difficulty it's still like 25000 stam
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2014, 05:36:49 AM
So apparently Angel gets a twinlit Ulti evo too.

It's completely inferior to the regular ulti evo and lacks glasses to boot!

But this makes me wonder if we're sticking twinlit evos on everything now ;w; (mommy no i don't want to run heaven and hell a million times)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 07, 2014, 06:11:41 AM
So apparently Angel gets a twinlit Ulti evo too.

It's completely inferior to the regular ulti evo and lacks glasses to boot!

But this makes me wonder if we're sticking twinlit evos on everything now ;w; (mommy no i don't want to run heaven and hell a million times)

I'm tempted to see what a 2/6/1 healer team can do though. That said, I'll get the glasses one first. I really want to see what Alraune's and Siren's ults will do.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2014, 06:13:44 AM
I'm tempted to see what a 2/6/1 healer team can do though. That said, I'll get the glasses one first. I really want to see what Alraune's and Siren's ults will do.

If siren gets dark type I swear i will go luci and never come back
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 07, 2014, 06:15:49 AM
If siren gets dark type I swear i will go luci and never come back

You already have drawn joker though. Personally, I'm hoping for green.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2014, 06:46:10 AM
You already have drawn joker though. Personally, I'm hoping for green.

Fuck DJ though. His awakenings are pretty bad and his ulti is frankly subpar only helped by the fact he had okayish stats already.

Dragon in Motley HAS put him slightly above the other toy dragons in usefulness because you can now farm him but yeahhh...

Siren, especially if she got buffed as much as angel has, would be a -great- benefit in a Luci team.

I get the sad feeling she might mirror angel and be light though ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 07, 2014, 07:14:11 AM
Green would be hilarious though because I would literally have a 5-color mono team. :V

Hell with ulti Kamui I'd even have all 5 represented specifically as sub-elements.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2014, 07:17:37 AM
meanwhile triple fucking big demons with a double flash bind on the same god damn piece of shit turn

i swear to god all I want is a stone from a completely trivial dungeon why couldn't luci have gotten bind resist
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 07, 2014, 07:32:35 AM
pls haku skill ups

PLS
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2014, 11:00:36 AM
so that's like 50*50=2500 Stam for a chaser*5=12500 Stam per skill up*6=75000 Stam for a max skilled girl

Sounds legit

Even if that was for the easiest difficulty it's still like 25000 stam
pls haku skill ups

PLS
e: dammit mobile
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 07, 2014, 01:26:01 PM
At least you don't have to evo anything for Nebradisk skillups. :V
Yeah this is probably the better option for me, let's be space pony buddies  :toot:
I don't remember what team I used for Legend, I think it was Ares & Dark Friends with resist buddy?  It was the single use for the UFO puzzlemon I've had yet is all I remember.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 07, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
Wow, what are they thinking with that new angel.
Hey guys! You know how roman leader skills were useless beyond early game and we had to buff them alot only for that entire tree of gods being completely unwanted still for our player picks!? Lets copy and paste those useless leader bonuses on to something for healers thats 10x harder to get than a valkyrie! Best of all since its on healers, the total stats will be inferior to gemeric roman lead team too! Oh yeah, make sure the activated skill still sucks ok?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2014, 05:05:43 PM
Say what you all want, I think she looks awesome and would happily use her. I'm getting kind of tired of all the 'this doesn't satisfy my late game need' whining when hi I'm not in late game yet and getting something obtainable and good for the point I'm at would be pretty fantastic too <_<

That said, the glasses one is Amaterasu Ohkami but with better RCV so I'd be all over that instead. And it's easier to make, too.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2014, 05:09:59 PM
megane is fucking moe

the other one is eh

megane all the way
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 07, 2014, 05:21:17 PM
Will upgrade my otherwise-useless cupid to Glasses Moe Angel because she's cute.  OTHER REASONS ARE IRRELEVANT.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 07, 2014, 05:26:45 PM
Say what you all want, I think she looks awesome and would happily use her. I'm getting kind of tired of all the 'this doesn't satisfy my late game need' whining when hi I'm not in late game yet and getting something obtainable and good for the point I'm at would be pretty fantastic too <_<

That said, the glasses one is Amaterasu Ohkami but with better RCV so I'd be all over that instead. And it's easier to make, too.

Well, it's just that by the time by can get the angelits needed for the archangel, you are most likely going to be late-game. Said dungeon doesn't even have a consistent 0-stone build to my knowledge. That said, since healers have monstrous RCV, it might be viable to take an ulted archangel and either another ulted archangel or a valkyrie.

Same problem with the dragons really. By the time you can reliably get them and field them for their team cost, you don't really want them anymore.

Will upgrade my otherwise-useless cupid to Glasses Moe Angel because she's cute.  OTHER REASONS ARE IRRELEVANT.

I would, but Kirin, Verche, and Valkyrie want the light xp. I might do it for Alraune though. I'll need another one though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 07, 2014, 07:53:00 PM
Say what you all want, I think she looks awesome and would happily use her. I'm getting kind of tired of all the 'this doesn't satisfy my late game need' whining when hi I'm not in late game yet and getting something obtainable and good for the point I'm at would be pretty fantastic too <_<

Point is it is NOT obtainable until you're tackling mythicals...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2014, 10:16:12 PM
Wow, what are they thinking with that new angel.
Hey guys! You know how roman leader skills were useless beyond early game and we had to buff them alot only for that entire tree of gods being completely unwanted still for our player picks!? Lets copy and paste those useless leader bonuses on to something for healers thats 10x harder to get than a valkyrie! Best of all since its on healers, the total stats will be inferior to gemeric roman lead team too! Oh yeah, make sure the activated skill still sucks ok?

I get the feeling the buffs were to make them better Subs more than anything actually :v Gungho doesn't give a proper shit for anyone outside of their burst meta anymore. That said while it didn't change their numbers (Which given super Yomi, could have been a thing it seems if it was done later) it sure as hell made them stronger, and they're probably easier to use in the descends and specials you can use them in, so the ulti actually really helped- they're just still at odds with the burst meta.

2/6/1 is also a type of team we've never seen before too- I don't have much hope for it though, a potential x18 with king slime is still pretty weak and x6 still isn't big game numbers. The added tankyness is still tied to a relatively low HP team too so it won't do major things.

I wonder if one of the girls will get a norse wannabee skill. x2 Rcv ho!

Also as a sub Light/Light Angel could be okay for burst actually. She's high attack, and her active is useful for Metatron if you need to pop to full after an accident (Moreso than quick heal because she's on color -and- easier to skill up) My problem is she drops way more HP for that attack and only really seems to come with a better stat spread as a leader. It's a thing though.

Light/Water is straight up the better Leader imo though. And also straight up way hotter oh bby sorry valk i know you want exp but I want my glasses Angel.

Say what you all want, I think she looks awesome and would happily use her. I'm getting kind of tired of all the 'this doesn't satisfy my late game need' whining when hi I'm not in late game yet and getting something obtainable and good for the point I'm at would be pretty fantastic too <_<

That said, the glasses one is Amaterasu Ohkami but with better RCV so I'd be all over that instead. And it's easier to make, too.

I did not catch that Light/Water got a leader upgrade, that's downright sexy actually. If that happens to the other healer girls too... ./whistle.

See the problem is more she's really inferior to her counterpart. Apparently originally Water/Light was the angelit one which makes...sense. She'd be great if you could ulti her normally but you can't.

And yes, Sorry, a lot of us analyze the larger meta of the game then sticking straight to early game. We're sorry this straight up makes you sad that we're not catering strictly to what may effect you and to how a monster effects the game as a whole.

Well, it's just that by the time by can get the angelits needed for the archangel, you are most likely going to be late-game. Said dungeon doesn't even have a consistent 0-stone build to my knowledge. That said, since healers have monstrous RCV, it might be viable to take an ulted archangel and either another ulted archangel or a valkyrie.

It's a descend, it won't have a far too consistent 0-stone alright :v

See above for what I think of 2/6/1 builds.

4/4/1 Healer won't work because Healers tend to be defunct on Hp. Yeah they'll have okay (Not really good enough still) RCV for stalling but their HP will be really really low for stall. They'll be pseudo luci-ish if they run King Shynee too, which could make them work because they have a burst option- but Luci really thrives off of dual luci and Shynee is a really big stat weakspot as well. I can't think up a straight up build for 4/4/1 at the moment since i'm still recovering for heavy sleep dep but I don't really see it.

It'll straight up be worse than Luci AND harder to build so yeah I don't see it being popular atleast.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 07, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
And yes, Sorry, a lot of us analyze the larger meta of the game then sticking straight to early game. We're sorry this straight up makes you sad that we're not catering strictly to what may effect you and to how a monster effects the game as a whole.

Okay, uh.  Chaore, you need to knock this sort of thing the fuck off.  It's not called for.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 07, 2014, 10:46:16 PM


4/4/1 Healer won't work because Healers tend to be defunct on Hp. Yeah they'll have okay (Not really good enough still) RCV for stalling but their HP will be really really low for stall. They'll be pseudo luci-ish if they run King Shynee too, which could make them work because they have a burst option- but Luci really thrives off of dual luci and Shynee is a really big stat weakspot as well. I can't think up a straight up build for 4/4/1 at the moment since i'm still recovering for heavy sleep dep but I don't really see it.

It'll straight up be worse than Luci AND harder to build so yeah I don't see it being popular atleast.

True, it may not give like Kirin levels of awesome, thinking about it, what if people didn't team with Valkyrie? How about Bastet or metatron instead? That allows for a multiplier of 2-8 or 7, with 24 or 21 being if you run King Shynee. I'm thinking something like: Arch-Valkyrie-Angelion/Siren/Coc Healer-Echidna-King Shynee. Maybe not the best team ever, but it's not like she'll be useless. This is assuming you didn't get anything interesting from the rare egg machine.

Personally, I think Alraune will get the Atk/RCV thing.

Also, like Edible said, you should probably chill out a bit.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2014, 10:54:26 PM
And yes, Sorry, a lot of us analyze the larger meta of the game then sticking straight to early game. We're sorry this straight up makes you sad that we're not catering strictly to what may effect you and to how a monster effects the game as a whole.

Yeah because we're all at endgame good to know

Seriously, are you even listening to the things you're saying? Knock it off.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2014, 12:59:44 PM
wow
                                      #onetruegod
     so ultimate

                          such god

        many combos
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Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 08, 2014, 01:10:13 PM
Anubis is too cool.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2014, 01:12:14 PM
in other news, Isis is now +210

only 87 more +eggs to go :derp:

(kinda wish I didn't give 42 of em to Echidna way back when)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 08, 2014, 01:14:36 PM
(kinda wish I didn't give 42 of em to Echidna way back when)

Her ult evo is gonna come out and you'll be like YES PLUS EGGS WILL GO HERE.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2014, 01:16:58 PM
only if her subtype isn't light, which it most likely will be

yay angelit gives everyone a light type what a great help for egyptian teams


on the other hand if ecchi uses a devilit and goes to the dark side instead then omg
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 08, 2014, 01:19:08 PM
Thoth even has the doge expression on his face.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
okay

so it turns out that unless you're goemon

+ORBS FUCKING SUCK

i did some tests and it turns out the damage multiplier you get from +orbs only applies to connected orbs

so if I match 2 sets of 3 orbs all enhanced, I don't get +36% more attack for 6 orbs, I only get +18%

the two 18% don't get to add up for a total of 36% damage, it's still only 18% overall

so +orbs are only worth it for mono color full boards like Goemon, or in combination with row enhances like Dark Meta or the new unreleased connected orb gods

no wonder people say Dark Meta is so op


well at least this means I don't have to really waste my time on trying to get Hrungnir
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 08, 2014, 03:47:20 PM
Omg they put the Argonian maid in HxH collab.
warning link is nsfw
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Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 08, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
Ecchi cant be red/green? Or you mean the one dat uses anglit/devlit?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2014, 03:55:32 PM
She'll likely be Red/Red and Red/Light (with an Angelit) following the trend of all the other Healer girls

But maaaybe she could be Red/Black (with a Devilit) instead
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 08, 2014, 10:19:04 PM
Ecchi cant be red/green? Or you mean the one dat uses anglit/devlit?

Red/Green Ecchi-sama the dream. TRIPLE GRAV TEAMS MAN, TRIPLE GRAV.

She'll likely be Red/Red and Red/Light (with an Angelit) following the trend of all the other Healer girls

But maaaybe she could be Red/Black (with a Devilit) instead

Red/Light would be better imo- Black has good subs, Light kinda less so. If you want to run an egyptian team and got the horusu/isisu after running H&H it could be nice!

At this for non-egyptian teams it could be beneficial- Healer now gets Ecchi-sama contributing damage when you light orb spam!

And yeah if that is the continous pattern (Which...would be kind of lame honestly, I'm really disliking shoving twinlits down our throat when the dungeon has a really large skill cap and is very limited like most descends.) we're definitely getting devilit evos because we have wayyyy too many angelit evos in comparison.

Evil Siren the dreammmmmm.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2014, 10:52:32 PM
Every Egypt leader gets Light as a subtype though after the Ult buffs so they don't really need to worry about light subs anymore
Well unless you're okay with x4.5 attack and don't want to run x5 F/L Horus (dat attack tho)

If Ecchi is R/D you could run absolutely silly shit like WL Isis + Triple Ecchi + Susanoo/Kushi for SO MUCH STALL :v
R/G Ecchi would be optimal though but I wouldn't count on getting it

And Evil Siren would be pretty amazing for Luci yes :v

Also with the sheer number of ult evos that need twinlits, hopefully at least gungho gives us the dungeon every single event


Also F/L Horus can already Triple Grav if you run Horus, Susanoo, Hera, Hera, Hera-Is :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 08, 2014, 11:36:14 PM
Every Egypt leader gets Light as a subtype though after the Ult buffs so they don't really need to worry about light subs anymore
Well unless you're okay with x4.5 attack and don't want to run x5 F/L Horus (dat attack tho)

If Ecchi is R/D you could run absolutely silly shit like WL Isis + Triple Ecchi + Susanoo/Kushi for SO MUCH STALL :v
R/G Ecchi would be optimal though but I wouldn't count on getting it

And Evil Siren would be pretty amazing for Luci yes :v

Also with the sheer number of ult evos that need twinlits, hopefully at least gungho gives us the dungeon every single event


Also F/L Horus can already Triple Grav if you run Horus, Susanoo, Hera, Hera, Hera-Is :V

Well yeah but they never really needed to worry about dark subs either because grav way too good- Honestly I think neither Dark/Light Ecchi-sama would really be a huge benefit to egyptian teams. Triple stall Isis is... interesting, but making an ad hoc stall burst team is honestly not the greatest idea in my opinion because crossing the streams is silly. That... would maybe actually work? You'd have so much time before the first actual attack and while your hp/attack kinda plummets that makes up for it. Well actually if Ecchi-sama gets boosted as much as angel did... oh god, I'm on board with that.

I do kinda like R/L more still thou. Dat Healer color (Do Healers actually run ecchi anymore? I actually don't rememeber seeing her...)

Evil Siren would mostly be fantastic because I don't have to use DJ! (and wait for AB to come back to make Kurone viable) I am being completely greedy in this regard.

And yeah honestly I hope they realize at some point this is ridiculous and flat out change twinlit acquisation if not that.

Also oh god suikama you just gave me the biggest fuzzy feeling by saying that i completely forgot about susanoo because i prefer ecchi-sama
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 08, 2014, 11:39:51 PM
Argh... I did it again. Find a sweet new potential friend to add in a dungeon, do the dungeon, and carelessly mash the screen at the end to proceed forgetting i have to "invite" my friend, and just so happen to tap "no"... Every damn time arrgh.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2014, 11:43:28 PM
Susanoo also has a huge advantage over Ecchi and that he doesn't care about Boss status shields. I think the only two bosses that can negate Susanoo's protection are Satan and Draggie (and you can't even use Susanoo for draggie anyways, plus you get a free turn when Satan dispels Susanoo so it's basically like a 1 turn delay instead) while a ton of descends have status shields (and like every dragon boss for w/e reason)

Also a lot of Horus teams I see have both Ecchi and Susanoo vs bosses that don't have preemptive shielding. Ecchi first, then after they shield pop Susanoo and beat them down some more.

Argh... I did it again. Find a sweet new potential friend to add in a dungeon, do the dungeon, and carelessly mash the screen at the end to proceed forgetting i have to "invite" my friend, and just so happen to tap "no"... Every damn time arrgh.
You can just look up people on the pdx friend finder and add them that way :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 08, 2014, 11:54:34 PM
Susanoo also has a huge advantage over Ecchi and that he doesn't care about Boss status shields. I think the only two bosses that can negate Susanoo's protection are Satan and Draggie (and you can't even use Susanoo for draggie anyways, plus you get a free turn when Satan dispels Susanoo so it's basically like a 1 turn delay instead) while a ton of descends have status shields (and like every dragon boss for w/e reason)

Also a lot of Horus teams I see have both Ecchi and Susanoo vs bosses that don't have preemptive shielding. Ecchi first, then after they shield pop Susanoo and beat them down some more.

True, True. I guess I'm going to have to level Susanoo up eventually anyway soooo :v

(atleast I have no light guys I need to level COME TO ME GLASSES ANGEL LET ME LOVE YOU)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 12:00:52 AM
True, True. I guess I'm going to have to level Susanoo up eventually anyway soooo :v

(atleast I have no light guys I need to level COME TO ME GLASSES ANGEL LET ME LOVE YOU)
Unless you want to level that Kirin you have sitting in your box :V

But then you'd have to evolve Valk
And Hera-Is
And also get a Verche

So you might as well stick to Horus for now :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 12:04:53 AM
Unless you want to level that Kirin you have sitting in your box :V

But then you'd have to evolve Valk
And Hera-Is
And also get a Verche

So you might as well stick to Horus for now :derp:

yyyyeah I may be confident in my comboing skills now to get 4 combos but kirin has a whole new level of 'you fucked now son' so.

I'm probably evolving/leveling Valk/Hera-is anyway so :v

Verche however can rot in my box.

If I ever level Kirin its probably more because shes a grav light sub. And that's about to become pointless SO (And I might be able to zeusu soon anyway for a better grav???)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 01:28:12 AM
Okay so now that Awakenings have been out for a while time for a revised tier list! Also because I totally over estimated +orbs and under estimated a bunch of other abilities. I blame Goemon.


(http://i.imgur.com/A0Gxlok.png)NEW AWAKENING TIER LIST(http://i.imgur.com/A0Gxlok.png)

Top Tier (These skills are amazing and can make a huge difference if you have them)
(http://i.imgur.com/ncj8kyz.png) Extend Time: Now that combo burst teams like Horus and Kirin are getting popular, having this ability can make a HUGE difference especially when stacked up. When I wrote the original tier list, the only notable monster with this ability was Anubus so I kinda wrote it off. But Bastet + Yomi combos have really shown the power of this awakening. Yomi in general has really risen in popularity thanks to the power her 1 second brings to any combo team, especially in combination with her active (which can now be used to negate things like Izanagi's match time down debuff). Also all of the new Ultimate Egyptian Gods get this ability and they very much enjoy it. Well... everyone but Isis... THANKS GUNGHO :/
Also watch Ultimate Anubis just get 3 of these and rocket up to most powerful leader in the game #ONETRUEGOD wow such damage

(http://i.imgur.com/4m83mQK.png) Damage enhance: So the real power of this awakening is that fact that it stacks. Although only a few teams can really make use of this awakening, the ones that do get a HUGE boost in damage from it. Most notably Satan and Dark Metatron, who can deal millions of damage simply by matching two rows of dark orbs. Like holy fucking shit OP. The upcoming Heroic Gods also enjoy this skill very much. It is worth nothing however that this skill doesn't do much if you don't stack it and if you don't have a team that supports full row matching, so don't go dumping your TAMADRA for this skill unless it's for something like Satan or Dark Meta.

High Tier (These skills are really good but not quite as game changing as the top tier)
(http://i.imgur.com/DiHkHaP.png) Skill Boost: Yeah this skill is obviously really good. Unfortunately, although pretty much every Dragon in the game has it, not very many top tier monsters do. The main notable ones are King Bubblie, and the REM gods: Odins, Metatrons, and Sonias. It makes BOdin a great sub for any team as both a giant stat stick (best overall stats in the game!) and dat triple skill boost. Gungho does seem to be getting more liberal with this skill though, as every Heroic god has one and every Sonia has two.

(http://i.imgur.com/k4BdxW7.png) Resistance Bind: With two of these your monster can't be bound, plain and simple. Most notable leaders that enjoy this are Ammy, Odin, Anubis, and both Metatrons (and although not 100% resisted, L/L Archangel and W/L Isis). Ammy gets a special mention in that if you really hate binds, having Ammy as a sub will give you a get out of jail free card with the buff to her active letting it cleanse all binds! W/W Archangel and W/L Isis gets the other special mention in that they also have both bind resist and bind cleansing, although not nearly as well as Ammy's. In Isis' case, there's only a 25% chance of getting both your Isis' bound and if only one get's bound then you can use the unbound Isis to help clean the bind off.

Mid Tier (These are all the enemy ability resist skills, because any chance to avoid these annoying types of attacks is a good thing)
(http://i.imgur.com/sMIjFYE.png) Poison Resist: So poison orbs turned out to be nassstyyyy. Basically jammers but way worse. Because of this, Bastet is often favored in poison dungeons like Beelzebub because of the chance that you can turn those annoying poison orbs into free attacks.

(http://i.imgur.com/NaEIm5e.png) Jammer Resist: Ditto poison, but less lethal. On the other hand poison is only used by a few bosses while pretty much everyone seems to be spamming jammer attacks now, and they still mess with orb dependent combo gods all the same (although combo count leads dont give a fuck). Only Kirin really gets to use this right now but some of the upcoming HxH leaders will as well.

(http://i.imgur.com/Nwn529N.png) Blind Resist: Pretty much ditto the two above. Especially annoying for big combo teams, although luckily Echidna has one and everyone uses her. Kirin too. I don't know why they gave Goemon two he's like the monster that gives the least shits about blinds in the game dammit gungho.

In general these resist skills are useful but they are largely hindered by the fact that they only have a 20% chance to resist and have highly limited distribution. Still a 40% chance for Bastet to stop Beelzebub's sea of poison or a 60% chance for Kirin to block a blind attack is quite notable, especially since these gods rely on making big combos. In the future these could be more valued as more monsters are given these skills and more stages have these types of attacks.

Low Tier (These skills basically all just add a bit of beef to your team but that's about it. Not really worth the TAMADRA, especially if you can get higher tier abilities.)
(http://i.imgur.com/fXgjDPm.png) Stat Boosts: Does what it says on the tin. Some of them are more appreciated than others, like Physical types enjoy having +30 RCV and Valk enjoys that +100 HP, but other than that it's just ok.

(http://i.imgur.com/OfXxvog.png) Enhanced orbs: Siiiighhhh. I had so many hopes. So many dreams. Every single one of them shattered. Because of how +orbs work, this skill really only helps if you store the +orbs that fall and then use them all up together in one big clump. Also if you have 5 of these you'll have 100% +orbs, which will result in around 20% increased damage with regular matching. Oh joy. Well it's free damage but yeah damage enhance turned out to be WAYYY better as it actually makes a big difference when stacked, while this skill just adds little fun sized damage boosts to your daily combo meal.

(http://i.imgur.com/UtNPFoB.png) Reduce Damage: I was actually saved from dying once by one of these, but it was pretty much just by sheer luck. Not entirely useless but still meh.

(http://i.imgur.com/EgBt0GH.png) Auto-recover: 500 HP is really pitiful. It's nice that Odin has it to help out with his leader ability, but other than that's it's just like whatever. I rated it higher before because I thought it might be nice in double resist teams... BUT NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT DOUBLE RESIST ANYMORE ITS ALL BURST FROM HERE BABY :welp:

(http://i.imgur.com/orYl1u9.png) Recover Bind: So uh in theory it's a good skill, especially for Lucifer teams, since you can go into a binding boss by preemptively popping Siren/Joker, then healing those binds away and getting your HP back at the same time. So that's nice. The problem is the distribution. Neither Siren nor DJ has this skill. The only heart makers that have it are the sticker girls. Also the main thing is stall teams are fading into obscurity, and burst teams all strive to burst the boss dead before they can use any bind skills so it's just like whatever.

bottom tier
(http://i.imgur.com/Jp8ybEY.png)Two-Pronged Attack: lol absolutely useless garbageokay actually in retrospect this ability does have a bit of a use, against those damn Twinlits :V Still the worst skill in the game though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 02:00:31 AM
:v

Bun's two-cents: Awakenings are a complete disappointment and don't care about them ever. Otherwise suikama is mostly accurate in the resists are the best things and everything else sucks.

The only one I really care about is bind resist and it's not where it should be at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 02:15:19 AM
yeah pretty much the only awakenings that really do anything are Extend Time (for combo teams), Damage Enhance (for Satan/Dark Meta only), Skill Boost, and Bind Resist. The other three resists need luck. :/

On another note, it would be funny if gungho makes a 'fuck your shit' dragon with 9 awakening like the fruit dragons, but it just has 3 of each attack resist skill :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 09, 2014, 02:42:21 AM
Looks like that cements my plan to max awaken my Metatron soon (once I evolve babbytron) :D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 09, 2014, 02:50:57 AM
Also remember that most dragons suck hard buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut every full cycle bar toys has at least one Skill Boost in their awakens and they're almost all farmable, most of them not even requiring evolution. So there is that at least.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 03:09:54 AM
yeah pretty much the only awakenings that really do anything are Extend Time (for combo teams), Damage Enhance (for Satan/Dark Meta only), Skill Boost, and Bind Resist. The other three resists need luck. :/

On another note, it would be funny if gungho makes a 'fuck your shit' dragon with 9 awakening like the fruit dragons, but it just has 3 of each attack resist skill :V

Yeah and of those, I'd argue extend time is somewhat inconsequential, skill boost needs stacking, and bind resist has far too shit distribution to be good (WHY DO NO ANGELS, WHO ARE LITERALLY PROBABLY THE MOST SUSCEPTIBLE TO BIND, HAVE BIND RESISTS GUNGHO -PLZ-)

if they made those with all awakenings being resist it'd be okay because 18% resist oh shit we nebradisk now with ulti'd single ele roman

and unlike nebradisk that applies to multi-hits

unfortunately it'd still be single type and therefore still bad
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 04:32:32 AM
...I just noticed that the fruit dragons have lucifer's leader skill...

Which totally does not synergize with all their offensive awakenings

Well at least they have built in heartmakers
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 04:46:42 AM
...I just noticed that the fruit dragons have lucifer's leader skill...

Which totally does not synergize with all their offensive awakenings

Well at least they have built in heartmakers

yeah they have 1.5x too which is not good enough

they seem to be subs tbh

i'd actually like a grape dragon for my heart maker for luci- two skill boosts would be p.nice too, even if the rest of their awakenings wouldn't be

their stats are kind of low though so tbh i guess they're just duds atm- i guess they have a lot of flexibility with their massive awakening list?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 09, 2014, 04:49:03 AM
I really want to make use of BOdins row enhances somehow.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 09, 2014, 05:29:36 AM
I really want to make use of Bodin and I&I's row enhances, but I''ll need four more tamadra.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 09, 2014, 05:36:55 AM
I really want to make use of Bodin and I&I's row enhances, but I''ll need four more tamadra.

Do you have an I&I of your own?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 09, 2014, 06:26:51 AM
http://www.padherder.com/user/o4rfish/sets/
I have Bodin (with 5 already), I&I, and Undine (one dupe) or hellice demons, but should probably put in orb changers ...
Blue Sonia would make it work.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 06:32:09 AM
looking at zeus descend and sobbing at all the binds

just sheer sobbing because so many binds why do you do this to me gungho
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 12:59:50 PM
yeah they have 1.5x too which is not good enough

they seem to be subs tbh

i'd actually like a grape dragon for my heart maker for luci- two skill boosts would be p.nice too, even if the rest of their awakenings wouldn't be

their stats are kind of low though so tbh i guess they're just duds atm- i guess they have a lot of flexibility with their massive awakening list?
uh its x2 for the evolved form :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 09, 2014, 02:03:40 PM
looking at zeus descend and sobbing at all the binds

just sheer sobbing because so many binds why do you do this to me gungho

Guess you really can't wait for Angel's ult-evolution huh.

I decided to try and update my PAD herder thing. I don't know how you guys max things out. The highest thing I have at more than a 1.5 mil curve is at lvl 82.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 02:40:40 PM
Super Kings give a ton of exp per stam, so I always save up stam and try to do it whenever it comes around, regardless of whether I need that particular element or not

At worst a super king dungeon gives 4 highs and 1 king. That's worth 115000 experience for 50 stam. Meanwhile, AT BEST regular farming pengdras will give you 7.5 per 100 stam: 60 stam on dragons for 15 dragons, 20 stam on technicals for 8 pengdra, 20 on thursdays for 8 plants. That's only 112500 experience. So the worst case super king scenario beats out the best case pengdra in terms of stamina efficiency.

Also the 'decent' case for super kings (1 invade, getting the king at stage 3, and getting the super in stage 5) gives a whopping 285000 experience. That's without the same element bonus. With it you get 427500 exp from just one super king run. If you spend a stone or two you can easily max out even monsters that need a million exp like Great Valkyre.


also oh damn you actually have the optimal Kirin team huh
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on January 09, 2014, 02:45:14 PM
Managed to finally get Nebradisk; not sure what I'm going to do with it, but that ability looks like it'll come in handy, especially given what the last boss of Tomb of the Saint Deep is like.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 02:54:37 PM
uh its x2 for the evolved form :derp:

No it isn't, atleast that's what PDX is telling me.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 03:02:05 PM
meanwhile at PAD wiki... (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/%E7%B4%AB%E5%A4%A9%E3%81%AE%E6%9E%9C%E5%AE%9F%E3%83%BB%E3%81%B6%E3%81%A9%E3%81%86%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B4%E3%83%B3)

...anyone actually have the Japanese version and can check what it's supposed to be

nvm found an ingame screenshot

it's x2 (http://i.imgur.com/Tzp0Y8c.jpg)

once again pdx fucked up :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 03:05:02 PM
meanwhile at PAD wiki... (http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/%E7%B4%AB%E5%A4%A9%E3%81%AE%E6%9E%9C%E5%AE%9F%E3%83%BB%E3%81%B6%E3%81%A9%E3%81%86%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B4%E3%83%B3)

...anyone actually have the Japanese version and can check what it's supposed to be

nvm found an ingame screenshot

it's x2

once again pdx fucked up :V

huh yeah that figures then

that's better then- they're built in heartmaker leads! you can slot luci in as a sub and then realize you wasted time even making such a bad stall team B)

okay i kid they're more easily accessible non-light stall leaders than snowglobes, if they get here they might be a good excuse for feeding those!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 03:05:31 PM
IN OTHER NEWS

Quote
There are some exciting things going on at the Rare Egg Machine! Check out all these new features!

- 3 Star drop rate decreased, 4 Star drop rate increased
they actually buffed the rem huh :o

then again there are still plenty of bad 4 stars huh...

Quote
Last, several popular monsters of increased rarity will be added to the Pal Egg Machine - don't worry, there are more on the way. This includes great monsters like:
 
Phoenix (4 ★)
oh shit mythical beasts in the PAL machine


(http://i.imgur.com/g09iY8V.jpg)
oh why hello there red odin
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 03:22:43 PM
The machines I heard about... red odin is completely new though, where'd that come from?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 09, 2014, 03:39:45 PM
Reduce damage taken by 80% when hp 20% or lower! =p
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 03:43:44 PM
HEY CHAORE

REMEMBER WHEN YOU SAID YOU DIDNT THINK THE HEROIC GODS WERE ANY GOOD

WELL IS 0-STONING KORYU GOOD ENOUGH FOR YA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSfR2G1Rss8)


like holy shit it did so much damage it broke through Genbu's 600000 defense without using weaknesses...


also clearing athena... using only two subs rofl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4iaZaDmSJc)


okay after watching that i think i need to change my tier list a bit:

GOD TIER
Damage Enhance

okay tier
Skill Boost
Bind Resist

Bottom tier
Everything Else
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 09, 2014, 04:00:59 PM
also clearing athena... using only two subs rofl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4iaZaDmSJc)

Ehhhhh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrkj8tlhZTE

>_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 04:11:33 PM
Ehhhhh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrkj8tlhZTE

>_>
#onetruegod


oh man on siegfried when he tried to set up the perfect board

...and then got 9 combos :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 09, 2014, 04:28:57 PM



also oh damn you actually have the optimal Kirin team huh
Who?


#onetruegod


oh man on siegfried when he tried to set up the perfect board

...and then got 9 combos :V

Easily my favorite part. That was pretty funny. How many attempts do you guys think that took.

IN OTHER NEWS
they actually buffed the rem huh :o

then again there are still plenty of bad 4 stars huh...
oh shit mythical beasts in the PAL machine



oh why hello there red odin

I'll be honest, at least I can use most of the 3* things to skill stuff up. 4*, not so much. Mythical beasts are kinda rare though. I only got one in 40 pulls, and I was one of the lucky ones.

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 09, 2014, 04:31:00 PM
They reduced the chance of 3-star monsters to drop and just increased the chances of their evolution dropping instead <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 04:31:11 PM
Who?
You

Kirin, Valk, Verche, Ecchi, Hera-Is
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 09, 2014, 04:35:24 PM
They reduced the chance of 3-star monsters to drop and just increased the chances of their evolution dropping instead <_<

At least 4* includes Valkyrie and the other heartbreakers. And when you feed them for xp, it'll be slightly more.  Small victories man.

You

Kirin, Valk, Verche, Ecchi, Hera-Is

How'd you know? I don't think I posted my PAD herder there. I really want Light Izanami for my Kirin team though. Can't be bothered to skill up Hera-Is.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
padherder just uses your username as the url

http://www.padherder.com/user/hyorinryu/

:V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 09, 2014, 04:45:44 PM
I still dont even know what these hero gods are, or sonia gods or wtf it was, or jujube dragons.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 09, 2014, 04:52:12 PM
padherder just uses your username as the url

http://www.padherder.com/user/hyorinryu/

:V

 :getdown:

I thought you just looked at who I use as a leader. I used them all except for Verche at one point or another. I just look at friends list and choose a farming team based on whatever's available.

Usually, it's something like
Ares/Ame no Uzume = Tyrannos
Hermes/BOdin = I&I
Egyptians = Kirin
Byakkou = Hera-Ur
Luci/other dark leads = Hera-Is
Valkyie/Bastest/Suzaku = Valkyrie
Thursday/Conditionals/farming for lits = Joker/Echidna

I still dont even know what these hero gods are, or sonia gods or wtf it was, or jujube dragons.
Don't know who Sonias are. Hero gods are random heroes(idk why their gods, you'd think they'd get the ninja treatment. Fruit dragons are dragons with a ton of awakenings.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 09, 2014, 04:55:26 PM
Bastest

She IS the bastest. :D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 04:59:59 PM
:comedycentral:


also Sonia are the new Odin/Metatron. They are all dragon/hybrids and their active ability is like the Chinese girls but for only two elements. Which is pretty OP when combined with the Heroic Gods. Their leader skill is 2.5 ATK/RCV for their type which is kinda meh.

The Heroic Gods are leaders with their damage multiplier tied to the max number of connected orbs you matched rather than combo number or elements. All of them deal 2.5x damage for 5 connected orbs of their own type up to 4x damage for 8 orbs. For example with Pandora if you match a cluster of 7 dark orbs then all your damage that turn gets a x3.5 multiplier.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 09, 2014, 05:11:30 PM
:comedycentral:


also Sonia are the new Odin/Metatron. They are all dragon/hybrids and their active ability is like the Chinese girls but for only two elements. Which is pretty OP when combined with the Heroic Gods. Their leader skill is 2.5 ATK/RCV for their type which is kinda meh.

The Heroic Gods are leaders with their damage multiplier tied to the max number of connected orbs you matched rather than combo number or elements. All of them deal 2.5x damage for 5 connected orbs of their own type up to 4x damage for 8 orbs. For example with Pandora if you match a cluster of 7 dark orbs then all your damage that turn gets a x3.5 multiplier.

Anyone know if Sonias from a mythology. Some people are saying Gungho made them up, but they stick out like a sore thumb when compared to everything else in the game.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 05:16:21 PM
Each of them have a ripper dragon in their background

So I guess their mythology is from PaD itself :V :V :V


also goemon is tomorrow for whatever reason
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 09, 2014, 06:30:46 PM
also when you look at someone's /sets/ you quickly see if they are IAP or not

except for Suikama

Oh holy --- the tri-fruits can skill up Sonias!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 06:34:12 PM
i've only ever spent money on continuing dungeons (like twice)

$5 per REM roll is too expensive :/


also i dont need any other rem gods i have isis :3

susanoo would be nice though
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 09, 2014, 08:23:26 PM
I just spent two stones on mystic dragon dungeons out of frustration <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 08:24:59 PM
wait what how do you even die in this dungeon ???
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 09, 2014, 08:30:15 PM
Oh er, not mystic, mythic.  My bad.  The stone dragon technicals before china-ville.

I have to stall in rounds 1/2, but doing so is hard when the enemies hit like a truck and otherwise have low HP.  If I don't stall long enough for Echidna, the carbuncles in round 3 oneshot me.  And on top of all that, I seem to be cursed to always get the worst orb drops possible in these dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 08:33:52 PM
oh yeah those dungeons are ridiculous

you basically have to either have a good way of stalling on dragons (high RCV, no accidentally killing them) or have a whole bunch of skill boosts for Echidna. But then you have an Echidna that's completely useless on the boss


on the other hand Luci handles this dungeon just fine I think
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 09, 2014, 08:37:56 PM
I can't wait until the US version starts getting free tamadras all the time like JP <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 08:41:00 PM
I'm... not actually sure what to use tamadras on now that pretty much the main use for them is just damage enhance and skill boost. I've already awoken Isis and other than that none of my subs really care :derp:

Once I get 4 tamadra though i'm totally making this team (http://www.padherder.com/user/Suikama/teams/#12966)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 10:40:49 PM
HEY CHAORE

REMEMBER WHEN YOU SAID YOU DIDNT THINK THE HEROIC GODS WERE ANY GOOD

WELL IS 0-STONING KORYU GOOD ENOUGH FOR YA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSfR2G1Rss8)

I think I said I had a negative expectation of them but was mostly still out on them actually :v But...

Nope.

Japanese videos are cherry-picked best ones which show what teams are capable of in the right hands. If you asked me 'Can the heroic gods do burst?' I'd say hell yeah because hell yeah they've got great numbers on them. this is like me showing you the video of Luci 0-stoning Twinlits and being smug as shit actually (Though I love that video because it really does show what luci is capable of still despite gungho's shitting on him).

like holy shit it did so much damage it broke through Genbu's 600000 defense without using weaknesses...

It was a very nice combo and a lot of orbs. When you get like 20k damage normally a lot of damage happens- and i was mostly looking at the plus'd up hero gods that did that.

also clearing athena... using only two subs rofl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4iaZaDmSJc)

Athena's a really easy stage honestly if you have monster's like that. The main problem is the gigas depriving you of time for skills which shots down some teams (Luci ;W;)

okay after watching that i think i need to change my tier list a bit:

GOD TIER
Damage Enhance

okay tier
Skill Boost
Bind Resist

Bottom tier
Everything Else

Eh. Damage seemed to come a lot more from the single color and high combo/high stats of a few mons actually.

this is really a huge benefit to non-egyptian burst that they can build numbers much easier because they don't need to spread the orbs out to create a combo. I definitely underestimated Heroic gods there a bit, and most other burst.

I don't know, I was still out on them before but I'm not sure quite yet. They're certainly looking a lot better than I expected though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 09, 2014, 10:52:03 PM
Ed, don't run Stone Dragons on not-Monday.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 10:56:47 PM
also when you look at someone's /sets/ you quickly see if they are IAP or not

wait what does that mean
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 09, 2014, 10:57:35 PM
Meh, I'm just getting them out of the way.  I have no plans on running them once I'm through with them, it's just to unlock Kouryu's dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 11:03:51 PM
I think I said I had a negative expectation of them but was mostly still out on them actually :v But...

Nope.

Japanese videos are cherry-picked best ones which show what teams are capable of in the right hands. If you asked me 'Can the heroic gods do burst?' I'd say hell yeah because hell yeah they've got great numbers on them. this is like me showing you the video of Luci 0-stoning Twinlits and being smug as shit actually (Though I love that video because it really does show what luci is capable of still despite gungho's shitting on him).

It was a very nice combo and a lot of orbs. When you get like 20k damage normally a lot of damage happens- and i was mostly looking at the plus'd up hero gods that did that.

Athena's a really easy stage honestly if you have monster's like that. The main problem is the gigas depriving you of time for skills which shots down some teams (Luci ;W;)

Eh. Damage seemed to come a lot more from the single color and high combo/high stats of a few mons actually.

this is really a huge benefit to non-egyptian burst that they can build numbers much easier because they don't need to spread the orbs out to create a combo. I definitely underestimated Heroic gods there a bit, and most other burst.

I don't know, I was still out on them before but I'm not sure quite yet. They're certainly looking a lot better than I expected though.
The main thing with Egypt burst though is because of how the damage works in pad, you dont get that much damage just by triggering their actives with a big combo, you need to get a lot of combos of the same color too. When you match orbs most things only add 25% damage to your attack: Each orb matched over 3 in a group adds 25% damage and Each off color combo you make also adds 25% damage. This means matching a row of 7 orbs adds the same amount as matching 1 on color triplet and 4 off color triplets: 200%.

So when dark meta/heroic gods simply match a giant cluster row of 10 orbs, they get as much damage as a big 8 combo with horus (both deal 275%). In order for egypts to do real damage they also have to match many of the same type orbs, on top of having to match varying orb types in order to activate their leader abilities in the first place.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2014, 11:11:38 PM
there were words here they're gone
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 09, 2014, 11:35:36 PM
tl;dr

egypt deals consistent damage regardless of the board (unless it's really shitty) but need a lot of skill. can also deal high burst with the right conditions (orb changer + yomi for huge combos)

row matchers (like heroic gods) deal gigantic easy burst but need active orb changing skills to pull them off otherwise they dont deal any damage at all

dark meta doesnt give a fuck about either
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 10, 2014, 12:11:54 AM
tl;dr

egypt deals consistent damage regardless of the board (unless it's really shitty) but need a lot of skill. can also deal high burst with the right conditions (orb changer + yomi for huge combos)

row matchers (like heroic gods) deal gigantic easy burst but need active orb changing skills to pull them off otherwise they dont deal any damage at all

dark meta doesnt give a fuck about either

i see suikama is developing a dark meta boner

but yeah that seems about right I guess? you deal with isis though so your view of 'consistent damage' is a bit skewed since it's really hard to screw isis, i've gotten board screwed a lot with horus in endless though so really the consistency scales with the boost imo

i guess i'm slightly seeing why super horusu became a thing (though i think he is still flat out broken)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2014, 12:40:28 AM
dark meta is pretty much the burst lucifer :V

although she does have weaknesses of course, namely she needs to take a hit or she's useless which you can't really do for a lot of new descends, and all of her best subs are rem only

meanwhile isis has no weaknesses so clearly she is the best god there is


Rofl so the last Pirate dungeon is a Fuma Skillup

Looks like Gungho realized an Izanagi Skillup would be too OP :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 10, 2014, 01:24:27 AM
dark meta is pretty much the burst lucifer :V

although she does have weaknesses of course, namely she needs to take a hit or she's useless which you can't really do for a lot of new descends, and all of her best subs are rem only

meanwhile isis has no weaknesses so clearly she is the best god there is


Rofl so the last Pirate dungeon is a Fuma Skillup

Looks like Gungho realized an Izanagi Skillup would be too OP :v

that statement makes me sad because luci really doesn't have any equal because he's a complete mistake and gungho hates stall with a passion

and meanwhile burst has such nuance such diversity much anubis

yeah i tend to cut the later out of arguments often but the first is really huge in my opinion (though again, luci, i'm used to surviving things)

you mean besides being bottom-rung BV


oh look the hero gods are getting buffs. THE AGE OF NINJAS IS NEAR.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 10, 2014, 02:45:50 AM
I wanna try stone dragons qq but still stuck on green only no green dungeons fuz mythits WILL NOT DROP.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 10, 2014, 05:24:19 AM
also when you look at someone's /sets/ you quickly see if they are IAP or not

http://www.padherder.com/user/Nobu/sets/

Take a guess. *koff*


In other news:

1/10 - The Thief Descended!
1/11 - Hero Descended
1/11 - 1/12 - Dark Night Sword
1/12 - Satan Descended!

I was really hoping to have a little more time to prepare for Satan x______x
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 10, 2014, 06:16:37 AM
I need mythlit, goemon can go fuck himself : D

Also hey I have more sets completed then nobu!

...but she has way more godfest only dudes...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 10, 2014, 06:44:17 AM
I entered all my gods but skipped entering the boring stuff like elementals, rippers, starters, irrelevant healers and the like. Rest assured, with all those gods I have golems in spades as well. x_x

Egyptian force hooo

argggggh you have Gryps Rider gimme ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 10, 2014, 06:55:40 AM
I entered all my gods but skipped entering the boring stuff like elementals, rippers, starters, irrelevant healers and the like. Rest assured, with all those gods I have golems in spades as well. x_x

Egyptian force hooo

argggggh you have Gryps Rider gimme ;_;

Oh. ;W;

And yeah I've not finished a god set, though i'm close on two.

also take it, I think I have two ;v

And yeah I've put pretty much everything in there I think.

Except my spares. Like my two other odins.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 10, 2014, 06:58:12 AM
Tonight on Why You Should Always Triple-Check Your Team Before Starting A Dungeon:

(http://i.imgur.com/tmKd98zl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/tmKd98z.jpg)

At least it kept me awake for AGDQ stuff and at least I got the super king? orz

[00:58:21] <ArashiKurobara> (p.s. be thankful you didn't get an invade)
[00:58:29] <rdj522> oh god ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 10, 2014, 07:10:37 AM
padherder has a friends list now :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 10, 2014, 07:20:48 AM
Tonight on Why You Should Always Triple-Check Your Team Before Starting A Dungeon:

(http://i.imgur.com/tmKd98zl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/tmKd98z.jpg)

At least it kept me awake for AGDQ stuff and at least I got the super king? orz

[00:58:21] <ArashiKurobara> (p.s. be thankful you didn't get an invade)
[00:58:29] <rdj522> oh god ;_;

*glances at team, spittake* B-But that thing has 5000 hp. I'm so sorry. ;_;


My Spirits/SMetal/Mask team is Odin, Ra, Lilith, Neptune, and Ghostring for that very reason >>;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 10, 2014, 07:38:07 AM
*glances at team, spittake* B-But that thing has 5000 hp. I'm so sorry. ;_;


My Spirits/SMetal/Mask team is Odin, Ra, Lilith, Neptune, and Ghostring for that very reason >>;

Yeah I have no idea why I didn't switch Batman back out for AB Bluebird Blues beforehand. I guess I assumed that team 6 was the one with the birds in it and just rolled with it. orz

I wasn't going to let that stamina go to waste, though, so I treated it as matching practice of a sort.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 10, 2014, 04:36:44 PM
awww shit free valk godfest for six days
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2014, 04:51:14 PM
the chance of getting one is still like 1% :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 10, 2014, 04:56:10 PM
They should do that after introducing the other valks.. Or did they?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2014, 05:01:45 PM
They should do that after introducing the other valks.. Or did they?
yeah they're out now
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 10, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
the chance of getting one is still like 1% :V

not that i think i'd want one- i don't really want an off color healer team and valk actually has worse stats than expected :v

edit: okay i'd like a blue one because looks and black might be an okay dark sub since dark liege is very meh- but twinlits and china girls take priority BV
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 10, 2014, 07:28:25 PM
not that i think i'd want one- i don't really want an off color healer team and valk actually has worse stats than expected :v

edit: okay i'd like a blue one because looks and black might be an okay dark sub since dark liege is very meh- but twinlits and china girls take priority BV

I think I'll take a red one for tengu.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2014, 07:37:44 PM
I think I'll take a red one for tengu.
valk cant be used in tengu :derp:


Also Red Odin is an attacker with the same awakenings and leader skill as blue odin, but for red. His active skill hits all enemies instead of just one, and also poisons them, but has a longer cd (20)

oh shit he has over 2000 atk

also his poison is twice as strong as neptunes

and with his attack, it hurts for 20k every turn

and the lance itself deals 100k
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 10, 2014, 07:53:07 PM
valk cant be used in tengu :derp:


Also Red Odin is an attacker with the same awakenings and leader skill as blue odin, but for red. His active skill hits all enemies instead of just one, and also poisons them, but has a longer cd (20)

oh shit he has over 2000 atk

also his poison is twice as strong as neptunes

and with his attack, it hurts for 20k every turn

and the lance itself deals 100k
Uh...oveerkill much?  Sure if you're doing Descends etc. 100k is only "a lot" not "HOLY CRAP IT'S AMAZING" if I remember HP totals I've read right, but still.  10x Atk every turn for the rest of the battle along with whatever else you do is pretty outrageous.

I want one.  Even if it'd be probably like 50 cost or some crap, I want one for when I could afford it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2014, 08:02:55 PM
Uh...oveerkill much?  Sure if you're doing Descends etc. 100k is only "a lot" not "HOLY CRAP IT'S AMAZING" if I remember HP totals I've read right, but still.  10x Atk every turn for the rest of the battle along with whatever else you do is pretty outrageous.
poison doesnt carry over when the monster dies and the cooldown is kinda longish

also the poison on his active makes it so that you can't hit a boss more than once (since you can't poison an enemy twice)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 10, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
>Attacker
>Same awakenings as BOdin
> 10x poison
>Red/Black

My DMeta team craaves this ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2014, 09:40:57 PM
The only problem is his awakenings are for Fire damage enhance not Dark
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 10, 2014, 10:01:28 PM
valk cant be used in tengu :derp:




For some reason I thought we were talking about chasers.

As for the whole Poision obsoleting Neptune thing, Neptune was never really in that great a spot and if you're deciding to use poision on something, I think I'd take Neptunes greater RCV over ROdins greater damage.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 11, 2014, 12:22:17 AM
I dont have neptune so id love red odin, particularly since i cant even level my lilith since dark creature overload.  I dont really have many doods with "attacker" subtype either.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 12:46:21 AM
The only problem is his awakenings are for Fire damage enhance not Dark

and he's off color too, that's worth a lot

Edit; that's prolly workable around since he has such great stats though

Bun thoughts: amazing stats like the rest of the odins makes him already a pretty good red sub, even if he's rcv hungry in one of the most rcv hungry colors that lost one of it's star subs to twinlits

the awakenings are nice too, and the skill technically has two uses making it pretty good

only thing is his leader skill lacks a bit imo but he's really great and looks cool as fuck, quality new monmansu
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 11, 2014, 02:05:04 AM
Bun thoughts: amazing stats like the rest of the odins makes him already a pretty good red sub, even if he's rcv hungry in one of the most rcv hungry colors that lost one of it's star subs to twinlits





who? Horus is still a good sub with r/r.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 02:27:48 AM
who? Horus is still a good sub with r/r.

one of the most rcv hungry colors that lost one of it's star subs to twinlits
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 02:46:09 AM
F/L Horus' low rcv is good for Goemon though
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 02:58:55 AM
F/L Horus' low rcv is good for Goemon though

This is true! You've talked so much shit about him I actually forgot he existed.

And this makes up for Phoenix being terrible for it now too.

except not really because one is farmable
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 11, 2014, 03:19:47 AM
High RCV Goemon is a thing though...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 03:24:37 AM
High RCV Goemon is a thing though...

this does not change a thing we just said though!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 11, 2014, 03:38:39 AM
I rolled a susano.

Y/n?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 11, 2014, 03:44:26 AM
Just ran Friday dungeon normal ten times. 43 mons, 1 of which is Mythlit.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 03:44:56 AM
I rolled a susano.

Y/n?

why roll outside of a godfes- oh it's technically valk fest

also y

susanoo is good for horus and you horusu so
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 11, 2014, 03:47:36 AM
Aww yissssss
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 03:51:23 AM
Just ran Friday dungeon normal ten times. 43 mons, 1 of which is Mythlit.
friday dungeon forever the worst dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 11, 2014, 03:55:30 AM
I've tried like six times to get just a fucking amelit

no luck but i got like 3 mythlits

stupid dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 03:56:52 AM
I've tried like six times to get just a fucking amelit

no luck but i got like 3 mythlits

stupid dungeon

yeah same

evo'd isis and then fed her to something like the trash she is and my spare agdrall

third one being saved for hera-is.

what i need however is topalits and i have gotten none
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 04:10:23 AM
I've tried like six times to get just a fucking amelit

no luck but i got like 3 mythlits

stupid dungeon
i always farm basic lits from t1 dungeons now because at least the dungeon cost is low on 1/2 stam days and the dungeon will only have the color you want
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 11, 2014, 04:17:02 AM
poison doesnt carry over when the monster dies and the cooldown is kinda longish

also the poison on his active makes it so that you can't hit a boss more than once (since you can't poison an enemy twice)
Ah, so it won't just let you hit them with the damage portion of it?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 11, 2014, 04:18:57 AM
yeah I can't get anything I want from weekly dungeons anymore... I think they made it so intermediate/expert weekly dungeons now have the standard 1/4% drop rates of intermediate/expert biweekly dungeons or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 05:04:44 AM
meanwhile lets get this thief

so i can kick more ass with him than suikama ever did BV

edit; update did it wasted stones because i was stubborn and this game outright hates me sometimes

i got him i guess so yay
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 11, 2014, 05:59:53 AM
I never need sui's opinion before determining i dont want that horrible leader ability... Powerful yes, safe/reliable? No waiii.

Maybe its ok if you dont mind spending a stone or two on descends but i dont.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 06:02:08 AM
but no seriously this game is outright malicious to me sometimes with depriving me with hearts for several straight out board clears

i swear to fuck i should have just given up when the ninjas got me somehow ugghhhh but nope stupid pride

whatever it's done
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 03:19:12 PM
wow twin heros is so easy with luci

...but this is taking forever. i need to double luci nuke to kill anything...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 11, 2014, 03:27:10 PM
ATTN SUIKAMA

Find me that 6 ult evo bastet doing an athena run pls.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 04:46:01 PM
ATTN SUIKAMA

Find me that 6 ult evo bastet doing an athena run pls.
this exists?

cause i cant seem to find it even on niconico :<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 05:12:15 PM
wow twin heros is so easy with luci

...but this is taking forever. i need to double luci nuke to kill anything...

this is luci in a nutshell, easy but killing power tends to rely on luci nukes and gravity.

in a way, this is probably why gungho hideously neglects stall- it's not FAST AND FURIOUS AND EXCITING enough.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 11, 2014, 05:18:52 PM
ATTN SUIKAMA

Find me that 6 ult evo bastet doing an athena run pls.

this exists?

cause i cant seem to find it even on niconico :<

Oh ye of little faith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zyVpaNE7oo
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 05:23:15 PM
Oh ye of little faith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zyVpaNE7oo
goddammit the title of that video spells out "Bastet" in katakana instead of using 芭絲特 no wonder i couldn't find it >__>

okay so the japanese pad wiki uses both バステト and 芭絲特 for some reason but i guess ingame its actually just バステト >____>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 11, 2014, 05:24:28 PM
JP Bastet is in katakana anyway, though. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 05:25:24 PM
JP Bastet is in katakana anyway, though. :V
<__<

also dat waifu factor

damn they get pretty lucky with that last skyfall
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
god damnit i forgot i didn't already do legend for mechadragon :V Don't want to waste x2 on that...

also whats the best possible team for the final level of weekend before i just use the one true god
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 11, 2014, 05:31:28 PM
Isis/Bastet/Kushinada and then any RGB with high attack plus a heartbreaker or two
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 05:34:56 PM
I just do triple heartbreaker (gigas, sieg, chu) + echidna for maximum combos
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 11, 2014, 05:46:01 PM
this is luci in a nutshell, easy but killing power tends to rely on luci nukes and gravity.

in a way, this is probably why gungho hideously neglects stall- it's not FAST AND FURIOUS AND EXCITING enough.

I doubt its cuz exciting...
Fast = faster clears, AND faster deaths, which means more motivation to spend stones on stam refills and death revives.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 05:58:32 PM
I doubt its cuz exciting...
Fast = faster clears, AND faster deaths, which means more motivation to spend stones on stam refills and death revives.

Luci getting screwed also gives a sense of 'No way! I'm so close, just one more try' from personal experience.

Infact, I probably would've spent less stones using horusu I think :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 11, 2014, 06:00:49 PM
That may be true but i still think it is likely that they feel faster = more frequency of "need a stone" moments.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/LDwXrti.png)

Siegfried MAXed o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 11, 2014, 08:12:56 PM
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice, mine's nowhere near max level but at least he is max evo'd (thank you blue snow globe for polishing off the second stage).

And Two Heroes last night dropped the Highlander, so now the only heartbreaker I'm missing is Valk! (I'd've been fine with either, really, Highlander is a thing I was lacking and Berserk means a chance to skillup - god knows that farmable or not I am no fucking way going to try to awaken heartbreakers by feeding dupes, dat xp curve too strongk.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 08:22:03 PM
I still need to awaken Siegfried one more level.

Thing is right now I have both a tamadra and an extra mid level Siegfried, and on one hand it will cost me a milion exp and a bunch of evo materials just for one awakening if I use the extra siegfried.

On the other hand I have no other use for him and if I just used the tamadra then he becomes a dead weight in my box. Also I'm not really in a rush to get 50 extra attack on him so I can save the Tamadra for someone else.


Also I spent 200 stam on blue dragons today and got 0 tamadras
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 08:35:21 PM
That may be true but i still think it is likely that they feel faster = more frequency of "need a stone" moments.

Yeah that'd be likely I admit. Oh well, maybe one day they'll change things. I can dream.

Also the final weekend dungeon was pitifully easy. Is this the power of Isis?!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 11, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
I still need to awaken Siegfried one more level.

Thing is right now I have both a tamadra and an extra mid level Siegfried, and on one hand it will cost me a milion exp and a bunch of evo materials just for one awakening if I use the extra siegfried.

On the other hand I have no other use for him and if I just used the tamadra then he becomes a dead weight in my box. Also I'm not really in a rush to get 50 extra attack on him so I can save the Tamadra for someone else.

Yeah I mean I'm in no rush to, if I do at all, just holy crap I have no desire to do it the hard way. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 10:53:02 PM
Created two (http://www.padherder.com/user/ChaoreLance/teams/#14075) teams (http://www.padherder.com/user/ChaoreLance/teams/#14076) for twinlits in the very far future.

Obviously need to level/evo some stuff in them (including if I have the time skilling up grav users- I will not have the time no way in hell) but yeah I want initial thoughts I guess
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 10:56:26 PM
technically skilling up gravities doesn't really need time since you can only do it on Hera days

but it does cost like a hundred stones :V


also you can just go fuck gravities and go FULL DELAY MODE with Horus, Ecchi, Susanoo, Orochi, Batman once F/L horus comes out
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 10:58:33 PM
technically skilling up gravities doesn't really need time since you can only do it on Hera days

but it does cost like a hundred stones :V


also you can just go fuck gravities and go FULL DELAY MODE with Horus, Ecchi, Susanoo, Orochi, Batman once F/L horus comes out

...

I need to do twinlits to get F/L horus.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 11:06:53 PM
well after you get it then?

i mean the first team you posted is fine even for not twinlits and stuff so i was talking teamcomps in general

specifically for twinlits though double delay is pretty good as long as you get lucky with stage 1
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 11, 2014, 11:16:00 PM
I'm thinking I might use the blue, green, and red mystic dragons for my mono-teams.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 11:21:17 PM
well okay in that case hahah fuck no batman is awful and cutting out a gravity for his useless ass is a terrible damn idea

gravities help both with room 3 and the boss  whereas batman can't be used on the boss and has a longer delay than ecchi-sama too so if hes up she is for room 2

double delay is great and actually far better than slotting in susanoo since he can't be used to survive after angrilit and only has situational use before devilit dies

I think the elongated time is technically less damage per turn too? not sure on that

I'm thinking I might use the blue, green, and red mystic dragons for my mono-teams.

they've passable stats but i wouldn't slot them in over anything useful honestly

and it also depends on who you're leading with
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 11, 2014, 11:31:06 PM

they've passable stats but i wouldn't slot them in over anything useful honestly

and it also depends on who you're leading with

Norses and Starters. I imagine that they would be good for those times you need to press all the button and oneshot the thing into oblivion.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 11:39:51 PM
well okay in that case hahah fuck no batman is awful and cutting out a gravity for his useless ass is a terrible damn idea

gravities help both with room 3 and the boss  whereas batman can't be used on the boss and has a longer delay than ecchi-sama too so if hes up she is for room 2

double delay is great and actually far better than slotting in susanoo since he can't be used to survive after angrilit and only has situational use before devilit dies

I think the elongated time is technically less damage per turn too? not sure on that

they've passable stats but i wouldn't slot them in over anything useful honestly

and it also depends on who you're leading with
yeah the biggest downfall of reduced damage vs stall is you have to focus on healing at the same time which can really screw up combos (unless you're Bastet). I can never pull off a good combo when I have low hp and need to heal at the same time :<

i'm not sure why you swapped hades for hera though in your second team cause your hades is much stronger :V


oh yeah you can also replace Valk with Ra to make floor two trivial

so then you stall on stage one, ra stage 2, delay stage 3 and then kill all but tamadra, then stall again and fight the boss
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 11:48:05 PM
Norses and Starters. I imagine that they would be good for those times you need to press all the button and oneshot the thing into oblivion.

tbh no because switching is a bad skill

Nazca is bad because if you're at full health why switch for a minor (only x6 over x4) damage boost that goes away the moment you're hit, like, ever.

baalbek is better because staying below 50% is easy when you killed your recovery, but worse because you can't switch it away when you need to heal now and it's a minor boost that will cut your rcv straight in half and bring your doom quicker

anti is probably the best because x5 is massive and a x10 boost is nothing to sneeze at, however you're at 5% which is hard to hit to use her and you're fucked the next turn but she's the most usable

so again not over anything useful is my reccomendation

i'm not sure why you swapped hades for hera though in your second team cause your hades is much stronger :V


oh yeah you can also replace Valk with Ra to make floor two trivial

so then you stall on stage one, ra stage 2, delay stage 3 and then kill all but tamadra, then stall again and fight the boss

I thought Hera was a flat out stronger monster and didn't need the light typing

turns out she just has more hp so hmm

also no i can't because i need ulti valk for green type in that team (unless ecchi-sama gets green type) though ra's not a terrible idea
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2014, 11:51:32 PM
oops

also hera is a late bloomer which is really annoying because she'll always be weaker than you expect until you hit like level 80+

e:oh hades is too

hera-is ftw
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2014, 11:58:37 PM
oops

also hera is a late bloomer which is really annoying because she'll always be weaker than you expect until you hit like level 80+

e:oh hades is too

hera-is ftw

yeah hera-is might be better

she doesn't have main dark but the main problem is usually devilit

and she has more hp always so

hera and hades have more flat attack but she's ahead till 50-60 and will have better other stats at that point
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 12:07:23 AM
On a random note, I wish Joker had skill-up food cause he has the best active in the game :V

I mean he's the only monster who can give the possibility of gravity every 10 turns :V


...okay aside from max skilled kirin >_>


In general though his potential actives are almost all pretty great for Isis/Bastet. The Chinese Girl actives wouldn't work with Horus/Ra/Kirin or any other chinese girl since it's a random tricolor but it's great for combo leaders and Isis. Same with Orb refresh (free skill boost if you get at least 1 skyfall match from it), Change the World, and Gravity.

Of course the main problem is the stupid dragon breaths, but hey it's obviously a fun active, and it wouldn't be Joker without it :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 12, 2014, 12:50:23 AM
Incidently, hades is later bloomier than hera too. For example a level 70 hades is compareable to like a level 50 hera.

Anyway i intend to lead with a light/dark hades (which i have), have 2 ecchis, my level 99 hera, and... Not sure yet, my luci for final nuke i guess?
Ideally ill have a light/dark hades sub too.

Ill have to be careful about managing their hp though, that final 20% will be tough with such a slow damaging team.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 01:01:09 AM
i'm not sure if luci is possible for twinlits because when the devilit uses his poison, that's a instant kill regardless of how much hp you have
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 01:08:51 AM
i'm not sure if luci is possible for twinlits because when the devilit uses his poison, that's a instant kill regardless of how much hp you have

No it's not, at all. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCROqMgYTyY)

The problem is more you need a lot of sheer bulk so it's not really practical for the person on the short.

Also he means to lead with dual resist.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 01:14:18 AM
No it's not, at all. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCROqMgYTyY)

The problem is more you need a lot of sheer bulk so it's not really practical for the person on the short.

Also he means to lead with dual resist.
oh what the fuck pdx you're wrong AGAIN >:/

unless 6 color orbs LITERALLY MEANS 6 orbs but not heal orbs

okay wow that's actually what happens okay i thought it was a beelzabub kinda deal :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 01:16:07 AM
oh what the fuck pdx you're wrong AGAIN >:/

unless 6 color orbs LITERALLY MEANS 6 orbs but not heal orbs

It means literally six orbs turn into poison blocks. Only six.

Clicking the skill reveals that on PDX. :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 01:18:36 AM
man for angelit it says 1x? which means 1 of all an element

but then devil says 6x? which then means 6 orbs welp


also holy crap the luci got lucky as hell turn one
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 01:20:47 AM
man for angelit it says 1x? which means 1 of all an element

but then devil says 6x? which then means 6 orbs welp


also holy crap the luci got lucky as hell turn one

it's like acid blossom and probably how all poison skills will be coded

also yeah needing good board for turn 1 is pretty much a thing but i imagine that's a thing for everyone bar isis
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 01:21:36 AM
Bastet doesn't really care about your starting board either, unless you're playing mono green Bastet or something


holy shit these skyfalls

how many tries this did luci run take


lol +297 on everyone except ecchi only has +1 for some reason
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 01:30:58 AM
lol +297 on everyone except ecchi only has +1 for some reason

ecchi doesn't scale as well since luci doesn't effect her
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 01:32:08 AM
true, but if you're at the point where you can +297 multiple monsters i would think ecchi would have been one of your top priorities :V

i guess this guy just mains lucifer
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 01:43:05 AM
true, but if you're at the point where you can +297 multiple monsters i would think ecchi would have been one of your top priorities :V

i guess this guy just mains lucifer

that sounds probably if you're doing luci

luci is definitely not ideal for twinlits since L1 is hard on devilit and trying to kill them seperately is no good and again sheer stats
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 12, 2014, 02:43:28 AM
tbh no because switching is a bad skill

Nazca is bad because if you're at full health why switch for a minor (only x6 over x4) damage boost that goes away the moment you're hit, like, ever.

baalbek is better because staying below 50% is easy when you killed your recovery, but worse because you can't switch it away when you need to heal now and it's a minor boost that will cut your rcv straight in half and bring your doom quicker

anti is probably the best because x5 is massive and a x10 boost is nothing to sneeze at, however you're at 5% which is hard to hit to use her and you're fucked the next turn but she's the most usable


4 to 6 is still a 1.5 boost that can stack with other boosts like the Norses 1.5. The idea is that you kill the boss then and there. I mean, most of the time, if you fail to oneshot, you die anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 03:00:03 AM
oh yeah chaore you need at least 13335 HP to do twinlits otherwise you automatically die on stage 3

although i guess susanoo could work against it

or spending a stone <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 03:10:55 AM
oh yeah chaore you need at least 13335 HP to do twinlits otherwise you automatically die on stage 3

although i guess susanoo could work against it

or spending a stone <_<

that's a number to remember then

it should be easy with both hera-is and orochi and a max horusu friend

no real way other than to take it to a face if i do double delay otherwise susaloo
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 03:26:02 AM
If Twilit shows up again during this event before Ult Isis comes out (gungho pls she's already been out for a month in japan), then I guess I'll have to run something similar like Isis, Ecchi, Ecchi, Valk, Hera, Kirin for x15 damage (which is almost as good as x16 horus i guess)

Last time I did something similar but I totally fucked up the early stages and it cost me a bunch of stones (i spent stones to stall for top droidragon and then he didnt even work properly :/). I think this time I might try just redoing if I get a bad stage one, although I don't have that many Kirin's on my friends list.

I do have HotshotGG though and his Kirin is +258 :V :V :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 04:00:08 AM
If Twilit shows up again during this event before Ult Isis comes out (gungho pls she's already been out for a month in japan), then I guess I'll have to run something similar like Isis, Ecchi, Ecchi, Valk, Hera, Kirin for x15 damage (which is almost as good as x16 horus i guess)

Last time I did something similar but I totally fucked up the early stages and it cost me a bunch of stones (i spent stones to stall for top droidragon and then he didnt even work properly :/). I think this time I might try just redoing if I get a bad stage one, although I don't have that many Kirin's on my friends list.

I do have HotshotGG though and his Kirin is +258 :V :V :V

i dunno this feels like a mini thing

could happen!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 04:13:44 AM
so satan descend isnt actually as hard as i thought it was because there are no heart orbs so BURST BURST BURST and satan himself doesnt actually use his OHKO attack every turn and his regular attack is only 6k

so maybe i could pull off isis/kirin, although that 6.66 million hp sure is something, and the lack of recovery orbs means you cant really charge or take hits, but i can make a team filled with tons of physical monsters since i dont have to worry about their low RCV
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 12, 2014, 04:30:59 AM
Wait what hotshotgg plays this game too?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 04:32:35 AM
Wait what hotshotgg plays this game too?
yep :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 12, 2014, 04:36:36 AM
GG

Where's Dyrus?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 04:37:54 AM
GG

Where's Dyrus?
prob too lazy to try it

also hotshot's acc is 353,172,272 in case you were curious :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 12, 2014, 04:51:05 AM
There was this one episode of GameCrib where Regi scolded Dyrus for playing PAD and not listening to the team meet so i guess he does play.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 04:55:42 AM
turns out you're right: https://www.facebook.com/TSMDYRUSLOL/posts/509049399164273

he's no where near hotshot's level though :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 12, 2014, 05:32:20 AM
Rank 74.

He is so close from mine tho.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 06:17:17 AM
gahhh the important parts of my twinlit team to level is late bloomers

this'll be a while....
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 12, 2014, 06:56:19 AM
Only about an hour until I take on Satan, so nervous  :ohdear: Will I do enough damage to the Krakens w1? Will I do too much damage w1 and get screwed? Will my combo skills be up to par?? :fidgetfidget:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 07:33:45 AM
Only about an hour until I take on Satan, so nervous  :ohdear: Will I do enough damage to the Krakens w1? Will I do too much damage w1 and get screwed? Will my combo skills be up to par?? :fidgetfidget:

YOU SHALL MEET DEATH AND DEATH ONLY

Edit: legit crit: a team of healers is not going to work in a dungeon with no heal orbs, you have way too little health to survive until you get an orb change, and you have gimped attacking stats

i would suggest revising your team heavily
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 12, 2014, 07:56:30 AM
YOU SHALL MEET DEATH AND DEATH ONLY

Edit: legit crit: a team of healers is not going to work in a dungeon with no heal orbs, you have way too little health to survive until you get an orb change, and you have gimped attacking stats

i would suggest revising your team heavily

There's no way I'll be hitting the important 12,060 break point to withstand a hit from Lilith even with a maxed Kirin friend leader and if I were to switch around my subs. There's simply nothing better in my box that I can sub out for any of the team members, especially not ones I could level on short notice.

Really, the first important break point  9k+ so you can survive a Vamp or Kraken hit and have a chance of stalling on those waves with Siren. Above that, there's the 12k+ and the 18k+ break points, neither of which i'm making.

I don't think the team is that bad @_@ Sure, Verche might be better than Angelion here for the extra damage if I had a levelled Verche, but alas. Siren and Echidna are practically mandatory. Valk provides green while still being a light monster.

(The team being Kirin, Siren, Echidna, Angelion, Valk for those not knowing what i'm talking about)

Edit: yeaaaaah

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Took three stones, died to KRAKEN because a skyfall killed one and brought the other to under 50% (should have just restarted but didn't want to lose my +297 FL), and once more to synched Vampires. And once to the big baddy himself.

I also realize the second HP breakpoint is 12,010, because Satan will first cast his shield, hit you twice for 6005, and then oneshot you.

Now the question is whether or not I try to run it three more times for awakening material... Not the most urgent thing in the world for me, seeing as being only rank 106 means it'll be a while before DMeta and Satan are on the same team together. Ah well.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 12, 2014, 03:23:23 PM
I don't have that many Kirin's on my friends list.


You can use my Kirin if you want. Maybe not the best Kirin ever, but I do have a bunch of +eggs with her name on it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2014, 05:17:27 PM
not sure if i have the stam to bother with satan since i need to clear Mystic Dark Dragon for the stone, and there's red dragons+super kings today
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2014, 06:31:40 PM
i'ma prolly just polish off awakening betelgeuse and then maybe weekend.

I do not have a good enough horusu team yet.

Edit: i do enjoy getting first floor double ogres that energy charge and i just barely don't kill and die for

this game is outright malicious towards me, it's amazing i haven't missed a descend drop yet
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 13, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
Poring tower tomorrow for a week <3
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 13, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
Yessss Princess Valkyrie is most pleased I will have a somewhat proper healer team!
:*
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 13, 2014, 02:48:44 PM
Princess Valkyrie

YOU EVOLVE THAT VALKYRIE IMMEDIATELY YOUNG LADY :colbert:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 13, 2014, 03:07:20 PM
oh boyyyy

although this time all i need to skill up are valk and chu, so I guess I should run master instead of expert?


also increased tamadra rates oh boyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 13, 2014, 03:19:25 PM
also increased tamadra rates oh boyyyyyyyy

Wbuh?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 13, 2014, 03:21:14 PM
YOU EVOLVE THAT VALKYRIE IMMEDIATELY YOUNG LADY :colbert:
Tell the mean old mystic masks to stop being butts and drop already  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 13, 2014, 03:26:09 PM
Wbuh?
how did you miss
Quote
x1.5 Appearance rates for Tamadra
 may show up in Metal/Jewel Dragons
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 13, 2014, 03:26:38 PM
Triangles, run Ocean of Heaven

Suikama, that 1.5x for Tamadra is what always happens with 2x Kings
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 13, 2014, 03:30:16 PM
nope increased tamadra has never happened yet in NA


also oh god tomorrow we get super endless corridors

no one's body is ready for this
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 13, 2014, 03:35:26 PM
For some reason that didn't show up in the list I saw at first.

Neat!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 13, 2014, 03:54:51 PM
Triangles, run Ocean of Heaven
Like I said, tell them to stop taunting me on-screen and drop already  :fail:
I was doing really bad with drops overall in OoH this weekend, like just the number of them at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 13, 2014, 03:58:06 PM
where's the best place to get a siren

holy shit i need one
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 13, 2014, 04:06:17 PM
the best place is from biweekly water dragon dungeons, but unfortunately there aren't any going on atm

other than that, she can technically drop from any normal dungeon where she appears as a boss or miniboss like [N] Sea Cave Mercury > Voice of the Siren, but the drop rate is absolutely horrendous so dont get your hopes up
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 13, 2014, 04:11:23 PM
I would recommend running Sea Cave Mercury/Voice of the Siren only when the 1.5% drop bonus activates, which conveniently is today starting at 3PM PST.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 13, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
i cant count how many times i ran Gate to the Mystic Land for Green Golem and got nothing

i only managed to finally get him from the Keeper of Green dungeon which pretty much has a TAMADRA-like drop rate

that's how bad the normal dungeon drop rate is
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 13, 2014, 04:18:47 PM
Don't forget about the REM during Godfests :V

Actually since we now have the ~new and improved~ friendegg machine, I wouldn't be surprised if the hit rate on the healer girls went up any in there.  I randomly got a Hattori Hanzo skill up critter I didn't even know that was a thing  ???
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 13, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
Super endless?! Blast, now i have to clear endless today for my free stone.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 13, 2014, 04:43:14 PM
Super endless?! Blast, now i have to clear endless today for my free stone.
I dont think it replaces the regular endless

Don't forget about the REM during Godfests :V

Actually since we now have the ~new and improved~ friendegg machine, I wouldn't be surprised if the hit rate on the healer girls went up any in there.  I randomly got a Hattori Hanzo skill up critter I didn't even know that was a thing  ???
you got hamahime from the pal egg machine? i dont think thats supposed to be possible ???
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 13, 2014, 05:18:23 PM
I dont think it replaces the regular endless
you got hamahime from the pal egg machine? i dont think thats supposed to be possible ???

You can get all sorts of stuff now. That includes mythical beasts and JP 2.0 skill-ups that aren't Ame or Izanagi, though idk if the skillups are there. They were in the JP version, but we haven't had pirate dragons yet.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 07:24:53 PM
Tell the mean old mystic masks to stop being butts and drop already  :colonveeplusalpha:

Don't worry! Mega Valk isn't that great since she's one of the earlier ults :v Infact if you're low on cost I'd advise against it since it's 5 cost for 100 rcv.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 13, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Don't worry! Mega Valk isn't that great since she's one of the earlier ults :v Infact if you're low on cost I'd advise against it since it's 5 cost for 100 rcv.

Very no!
It adds an additional 0.5x to her leader bonus, and the second element makes a big diff since she's for spike teams so that 30% extra oomph wont be massacred by enemy defenses like it often is for luci-lead subs or whatever.
Plus the front of her skirt is very tight, ensuring a consistant 'A' rank zettai ryouiki!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 08:38:24 PM
Very no!
It adds an additional 0.5x to her leader bonus, and the second element makes a big diff since she's for spike teams so that 30% extra oomph wont be massacred by enemy defenses like it often is for luci-lead subs or whatever.
Plus the front of her skirt is very tight, ensuring a consistant 'A' rank zettai ryouiki!

Oh! I forgot about the leader skill. I thought she had 3x since princess, my bad!

Also since healer teams normally hit light, no it doesn't really matter :v

Also you pervert.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 13, 2014, 08:39:21 PM
Oh! I forgot about the leader skill. I thought she had 3x since princess, my bad!

Also since healer teams normally hit light, no it doesn't really matter :v

Also you pervert.

Oh, I thought you were just taking into account that trianagles has Metatron.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 08:49:11 PM
Oh, I thought you were just taking into account that trianagles has Metatron.

Nope!

I kind of meant that in general, I'd say a weakness with a lot of early ults is they did too little (Though Gungho hasn't entirely stopped doing that. Susanooooooo!) and valk has actually disappointed me in sheer stats now that I actually look at them.

Metatron is honestly not the end all of healer anyway, she's more an alternative.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 13, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
My Metatron is almost fully awoken and such so she'll probably be my healbot leader for whenever I can afford to be cocky with the HP requirement and then just shove Valk into where I previously was rocking CoC Healer.  Team cost is not a concern atm, I have like 60 or 70 to spare on that team since I have no other gods on it :V

Also speaking of awakenings did they already turn on the bumped Tamadra rate cause I ran metal dragons twice and this happened (after attending to most of the regular dragons):
(http://i.imgur.com/El8KVDS.png)
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

bleh why is the attachment button so blurry
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 10:21:34 PM
My Metatron is almost fully awoken and such so she'll probably be my healbot leader for whenever I can afford to be cocky with the HP requirement and then just shove Valk into where I previously was rocking CoC Healer.  Team cost is not a concern atm, I have like 60 or 70 to spare on that team since I have no other gods on it :V

Also speaking of awakenings did they already turn on the bumped Tamadra rate cause I ran metal dragons twice and this happened (after attending to most of the regular dragons):
(http://i.imgur.com/El8KVDS.png)
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

bleh why is the attachment button so blurry

Ah, Well in that case just shove valk in whenever :v Ulti is not a requirement.

Only shynee. For he is lord and master (I need to get him and baddie at some point. GOOD THING PORING TOWER IS COMING)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2014, 10:41:21 PM
Legendary Dragon Rush tomorrow, as well! I wanna see if I can do it. I mean, I know I'll be able to do the first three levels, but I maaaaay be able to pull off Legend if I beef up my Luci team... Though I have my doubts because I think Niflheim and Yggdrasil would ruin me. The rest wouldn't be a problem, though...

But Poring Tower though. I'm gonna be all over that. *__*
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 10:44:59 PM
Legendary Dragon Rush tomorrow, as well! I wanna see if I can do it. I mean, I know I'll be able to do the first three levels, but I maaaaay be able to pull off Legend if I beef up my Luci team... Though I have my doubts because I think Niflheim and Yggdrasil would ruin me. The rest wouldn't be a problem, though...

But Poring Tower though. I'm gonna be all over that. *__*

Poring tower is great.

I'm not sure if dragon rush is luciable at a difficulty that matters sadly. >>..

Edit: ./checks legend, sees god breaths

No No it is not. Jesus I'm not sure if I could Horusu it yet.

EditEdit: Revise my assumption actually, muspelheim's counter is kinda large.

I'm still not too hopefully, lotta OHKOs
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2014, 10:48:28 PM
The more I read into it the harder it seems. If only I could fit another Keeper of Rainbow in my team! >.<

Master should be pretty doable, though, at least. The only real threat there is Niflheim, and all I really need to do is stall a lot on Muspelheim and unleash a double Morning Star to ruin it before it oneshots me. Everything else doesn't seem to be a threat with my RCV rate.

Still psyched about Poring Tower though. I wanna collect them all! :D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 10:51:16 PM
The more I read into it the harder it seems. If only I could fit another Keeper of Rainbow in my team! >.<

Master should be pretty doable, though, at least. The only real threat there is Niflheim, and all I really need to do is stall a lot on Muspelheim and unleash a double Morning Star to ruin it before it oneshots me. Everything else doesn't seem to be a threat with my RCV rate.

Master does seem like Cake actually. Lol almost everything at 1 grav+luci

...I'm still out on legendary. It might be possible.

Edit: oh man legend gives ult'd dragons shiiiitt son
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2014, 10:55:08 PM
For what it's worth, my Luci team currently is:

Seraph of Dawn Lucifer
Keeper of Rainbow
Drawn Joker
Dub-Mythlit
Dub-Mythlit
[Insert another Luci here]

My HP will be 34656, all told. Though I am running metal dragons right this moment so if I happen to snag a King I'll toss it onto DJ and see if that helps much (or would putting it on Luci be better? Probably, he's only 8 right now...)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 10:59:42 PM
For what it's worth, my Luci team currently is:

Seraph of Dawn Lucifer
Keeper of Rainbow
Drawn Joker
Dub-Mythlit
Dub-Mythlit
[Insert another Luci here]

My HP will be 34656, all told. Though I am running metal dragons right this moment so if I happen to snag a King I'll toss it onto DJ and see if that helps much (or would putting it on Luci be better? Probably, he's only 8 right now...)

YOU KNOW I KEEP ON INSTINCTIVELY SAYING ADD ANOTHER KEEPER BUT I FORGET ABOUT COST

COST IS LITERALLY THE WORST MECHANIC GDI ESPECIALLY ONCE YOU GO BIG AND FORGET ABOUT IT

Luci has a lower curve for the same amount of HP over 98 levels and is lower so def. luci

Edit: Legend has fucking binds gg not luciable, especially since yggy would normally be your stall point
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2014, 11:03:10 PM
I didn't get a king so I threw the four little metals and a high metal on him and he only gained like 100 HP :V

Oh well. I'm fairly certain I can do Master without much issue, and next time this rolls around I should be able to do Legend. Maybe. It's really not that big of a deal honestly, I just want trophy dragons :v

Realistically I should be sinking as much time as I can into porings, so. I'm pretty sure I could Luci my way through those well enough.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 13, 2014, 11:05:15 PM
Master does seem like Cake actually. Lol almost everything at 1 grav+luci

...I'm still out on legendary. It might be possible.

Edit: oh man legend gives ult'd dragons shiiiitt son

I think Luci can do it. The only possible problem I see is Niflheim. He won't be an issue if you go triple gravity though. It's also possible you can just go double gravity and use a vampire to eek out the remaining 50k or so.

YOU KNOW I KEEP ON INSTINCTIVELY SAYING ADD ANOTHER KEEPER BUT I FORGET ABOUT COST

COST IS LITERALLY THE WORST MECHANIC GDI ESPECIALLY ONCE YOU GO BIG AND FORGET ABOUT IT

Luci has a lower curve for the same amount of HP over 98 levels and is lower so def. luci

Edit: Legend has fucking binds gg not luciable, especially since yggy would normally be your stall point

PDX says it happens only at 10%. Shouldn't be an issue with morning star.

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2014, 11:07:44 PM
>Triple Gravity

i think you are vastly overestimating the point i am at in this game ^^;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 11:14:56 PM
I think Luci can do it. The only possible problem I see is Niflheim. He won't be an issue if you go triple gravity though. It's also possible you can just go double gravity and use a vampire to eek out the remaining 50k or so.

PDX says it happens only at 10%. Shouldn't be an issue with morning star.

Oh thank fuck that makes everything much easier.

Yeah it's totally luciable, you're going to end up with some dicey situations if you get orb screwed though.

Edit: infact, Double grav is probably better in terms of resources and also works for niffel since Double grav+luci leaves 35k hp and his def is neglible

>Triple Gravity

i think you are vastly overestimating the point i am at in this game ^^;

We're discussing it being luciable in GENERAL, not you doing legend- I'm pretty sure you flat out can't :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2014, 11:17:01 PM
Yeah, I'm just going to avoid it for now. Maybe next time.

Master's gonna be fun, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 11:19:57 PM
Yeah, I'm just going to avoid it for now. Maybe next time.

Master's gonna be fun, though.

Master might be a bit long actually since you don't have gravities.

You should be totally safe though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 13, 2014, 11:22:54 PM
Yeah, I'm just going to avoid it for now. Maybe next time.

Master's gonna be fun, though.

You're not missing out. Legendary dragons suck. They're terrible. If you want a resist lead, the lil dragon lines give you more for less. If you want xp, just do the third dungeon in the tier 5 groups(Hyperion - Ocean of Heaven.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2014, 11:25:09 PM
Yeah, it's gonna be a stallfest waiting for Lucinukes. But recovery won't be an issue either way. The only real threat is Niflheim and if I stall enough on Muspelheim to ready both Lucis it won't be a problem.

You're not missing out. Legendary dragons suck. They're terrible. If you want a resist lead, the lil dragon lines give you more for less. If you want xp, just do the third dungeon in the tier 5 groups(Hyperion - Ocean of Heaven.)

In all honesty the only reason I want to do it is for the sake of saying I could do it and maybe score a trophy dragon in the process. :p

As it stands I already have good resist leads with Drawn Joker and Love Deity Chaos Venus. Just nothing for resisting Fire or Wood. :p
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2014, 11:31:02 PM
oh dear god this stamina cost is going to be bloody tight if I want to awaken all of these ult'd dagons god damn
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 14, 2014, 12:18:55 AM
Yeah, it's gonna be a stallfest waiting for Lucinukes. But recovery won't be an issue either way. The only real threat is Niflheim and if I stall enough on Muspelheim to ready both Lucis it won't be a problem.

In all honesty the only reason I want to do it is for the sake of saying I could do it and maybe score a trophy dragon in the process. :p

As it stands I already have good resist leads with Drawn Joker and Love Deity Chaos Venus. Just nothing for resisting Fire or Wood. :p

I completely forgot about double Luci nukes. In that case, you don't need triple gravity. Just one will do.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 12:34:20 AM
I completely forgot about double Luci nukes. In that case, you don't need triple gravity. Just one will do.

Nope, you need to nuke muspelheim or he'll eat your face with wrath'd God Magma. Again, Double grav is more efficient since it leaves 10 turns to eat 35k hp with three digit defense.

The real question is handling valhalla->Helheim it seems. Is it safer to wittle down Valhalla with normal attacks or safer to stall for one luci nuke on Helheim?

Edit: Whoops forgot you need to nuke Yggy. So both nukes on Helheim- honestly 14k over two turns is easier than 8k every turn to 13k every turn.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 12:41:48 AM
Or just use Horus/Kirin and instagib the entire dungeon on legendary :V Kill the first dragon asap. Stall for around 10 turns on the second dragon to charge abilities. Ra/Bane/Poison kills third dragon. Kill fourth dragon as you did the first, but much easier because it wont 1 hit you and you get a free turn. Echidna on last dragon and then do whatever the hell you want.

The hardest stage is stage 1 if you get unlucky with a 2 turn attack and bad orbs at the same time, but past that the rest is super super easy.


also if youre using lucifer, you can still Ra/Bane/Poison Ygg so you dont have to waste a nuke

actually wait nuke cant even kill Ygg anyways so you HAVE to bring a poison :V oh wait no i read that wrong, he only has 6k hp and you deal 20k so it's fine
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 12:56:23 AM
yeah burst is an option but my luci team is probably a lot safer given my tendency to get orb screwed :v

also ra/bane generally means sacrificing an on-color sub for them and thus HP/Rcv and using neptune would cause some less serious HP loss compared to an RK

which may not be worth it because either option i prolly have to stall on hel i think
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 01:12:14 AM
okay so i guess you wont need poison if this is your battle strategy

1. stall for ages. then either nuke when he's past 50%, or gravity nuke when almost 50% if you can't survive the 26k hit
2. gravity, gravity, luci, beatdown the rest.
3. stall for luci (you need at least 22.3k hp to survive), luci OHKO
4. turn 1 heal, he uses barrier, luci OHKO
5. stall lucis back, double gravity double luci win

you'd need triple gravity and at least 22.3k hp though
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 01:20:41 AM
okay so i guess you wont need poison if this is your battle strategy

1. stall for ages. then either nuke when he's past 50%, or gravity nuke when almost 50% if you can't survive the 26k hit
2. gravity, gravity, luci, beatdown the rest.
3. stall for luci (you need at least 22.3k hp to survive), luci OHKO
4. turn 1 heal, he uses barrier, luci OHKO
5. stall lucis back, double gravity double luci win

you'd need triple gravity and at least 22.3k hp though

that's about right

1. muspelheim's pretty simple, he's going to be stupid long and annoying though eeew tbh i may just drop a gravity and stall it back on him- 26k is pathetic for luci, especially over 3 turns, it'd be hard as hell to get orb screwed especially if you time it right
2. double grav luci too EZ bro. 10 turns for 35k hp is easy as long as ultima orb screwing doesn't happen
3. 22.3k hp is again complete cake for luci, and it's over 4 turns so like easiest stall of my life basically
4. we'd almost be slightly screwed (hahaha not really) if he didn't have his barrier! just make sure you know to save the orb change for after valhalla because you need to take actual damage on helheim
5. slightly tighter but as long as you're prepared pathetic, he even has 2 turn cooldown to let you get your double luci off! how nice

again as long as you're prepared for healing phases this is actually pretty simple i think

and again double grav is way more efficient as you can slot in an RK for more safety strats and 22.3k hp is pathetic on a 4x multiplier and you'll have plenty of time to heal

the gravs the only real problem

edit: oh and blue muspelheim shows up sometimes

he's a joke
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 01:54:23 AM
okay so apparently you can beat even the new endless corridors with luci (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V45MCC7ENUU)

those fucking stats tho

he has enough HP to take even Satan's big hit...

and 16.4k RCV...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 02:03:56 AM
okay so apparently you can beat even the new endless corridors with luci (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V45MCC7ENUU)

those fucking stats tho

he has enough HP to take even Satan's big hit...

and 16.4k RCV...

WELCOME TO LUCI TOWN

WHERE EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF YOU SHOVE ENOUGH EGGS DOWN YOUR MONMUSU'S THROATS

disclaimer: not everything is possible because fuck binds

gungho plz give ult luci full bind resist thx
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 14, 2014, 02:10:16 AM
okay so apparently you can beat even the new endless corridors with luci (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V45MCC7ENUU)

those fucking stats tho

he has enough HP to take even Satan's big hit...

and 16.4k RCV...
83,000 HP?  What the crap?

Seeing this kinda thing makes me feel like I'm almost playing a different game(and not just in language) due to how far away that sort of thing feels like it is.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 14, 2014, 02:19:49 AM
83,000 HP?  What the crap?

Seeing this kinda thing makes me feel like I'm almost playing a different game(and not just in language) due to how far away that sort of thing feels like it is.

I know people have made Luci teams that can tank Gigas in Athena descended. My tank team only reaches 50k though, and it has no Luci nuke :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 02:22:06 AM
WELCOME TO LUCI TOWN

WHERE EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF YOU SHOVE ENOUGH EGGS DOWN YOUR MONMUSU'S THROATS

disclaimer: not everything is possible because fuck binds

gungho plz give ult luci full bind resist thx
Gungho: "lol no enjoy your +150 atk"

although that team still has >20K hp when luci is bound rofl

I know people have made Luci teams that can tank Gigas in Athena descended. My tank team only reaches 50k though, and it has no Luci nuke :(

Damn son

But I don't think the best luci team can tank this shit though (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=627)

oh it has binds too RIP
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 02:29:45 AM
Gungho: "lol no enjoy your +150 atk"

although that team still has >20K hp when luci is bound rofl
Damn son

But I don't think the best luci team can tank this shit though (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=627)

oh it has binds too RIP

the awakenings for the angels just shows gungho literally hates stall

they're not at all useful and infact the last thing stall wants

it's pure bile and hatred and why i'm convinced they hate luci for actually working

also yeah that stage is ridiculous but lucky completely pointless because who cares about sonia BV

(one of the sonia is a pretty nice luci stat stick iirc so i care a slight bit)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 02:32:54 AM
so once again pdx is wrong...

it says for that dungeon the timer debuff lasts 10 turns

but in every video i've watched it only lasts 1 turn >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 02:37:15 AM
also the only sonia we're not getting is the blue one that has amazing HP

more proof gungho hates stall -and- the NA
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 02:42:41 AM
ugh speaking of which, we've been not one but TWO patches behind for the past month

hopefully gungho skips from 6.1 to 6.3 because 6.2 only really added some small adjustments anyways (challenge mode, one extra team slot per 100 rank, android to ios switching, and some friends list stuff) and that came out back in november...


also i want my isis goddammitt

its been over a month ;___;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 02:48:21 AM
well we're getting events tomorrow (Supposedly? There's been no facebook updates so it's hella sketchy now since this was time travel found)

hold your breath

do not breathe until your waifu is here

Edit: do not actually do not breathe until your waifu is here i do not want dead suikamas ;w;

EditEdit: FACEBOOK UPDATE IT'S HAPPENING

AND TWINLITS FUCCCKKK I AM NOWHERE NEAR PREPARED
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 03:27:38 AM
of course it updates right before I go to bed

Tenguuuuu!!!! finally! I have been preparing for this moment, maxing out a whole bunch of goblin samurai on both my accounts.

Twinlit again... before ult Isis ;-; I'm not sure if I even wanna try cause i know that even if i stone to clear I'll be trolled by devilits

lol coc. I was hoping for Eva collab eventually or at least gungho collab <_< well at least I can get the stone from it this time

Oh I still haven cleared Hera Ur either
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 03:30:56 AM
of course it updates right before I go to bed

Tenguuuuu!!!! finally! I have been preparing for this moment, maxing out a whole bunch of goblin samurai on both my accounts.

Twinlit again... before ult Isis ;-; I'm not sure if I even wanna try cause i know that even if i stone to clear I'll be trolled by devilits

lol coc. I was hoping for Eva collab eventually or at least gungho collab <_< well at least I can get the stone from it this time

Oh I still haven cleared Hera Ur either

i'd love to clear tenguu but i would need a shaitain friend and even then I am heavily uncertain i could

like i have no good teams for it :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 14, 2014, 03:50:08 AM
gungho plz give ult luci full bind resist thx

Give Ama-oo a sub-dark ulti so she fits on Luci teams :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 03:52:55 AM
Give Ama-oo a sub-dark ulti so she fits on Luci teams :getdown:

this would legitimately work

unfortunately she already got her ulti and i don't think gungho does second ult releases
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 14, 2014, 04:03:03 AM
this would legitimately work

unfortunately she already got her ulti and i don't think gungho does second ult releases

Yeah I know. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 06:55:44 AM
BLESS MY SOUL, HERC WAS ON A ROLL~ (http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/140114_live3.html)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 14, 2014, 07:05:08 AM
PERSON OF THE WEEK IN EVERY GREEK OPINION POLL
WHAT A PRO, HERC COULD STOP THE SHOW
POINT HIM AT A MONSTER AND YOU'RE TALKIN' S.R.O.

I actually had this song stuck in my head the other day for no apparent reason long before hearing about this descend
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 14, 2014, 07:31:21 AM
BLESS MY SOUL, HERC WAS ON A ROLL~ (http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/140114_live3.html)

MY STAFF HAS WINGS

MY SHIELD HAS WINGS

MY HELMET HAS WINGS

RAAAAAAH
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 09:26:25 AM
BUN LOG RUNS 1 AND 2:

I have found you can get absolutely nothing from -legendary-. It happened on run 2.

First was first floor blue invade, yggy valhalla and hel drops.

So as such I have a cyber val which is nice but I already had val and three new shinies :v

If i get Muspel and niffel I'm good I suppose.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 14, 2014, 09:54:09 AM
Saving up bubblies for a potential siren in the future.

Siren pls drop ty
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 10:03:43 AM
Saving up bubblies for a potential siren in the future.

Siren pls drop ty

Good call. Siren rocks.

I'm considering actually skilling up my spare mermaid instead of awakening foddering it ;v

edit: also i got a tamadra from pal machine wtf do i do with it

Edit edit: does orochi seriously just go 'fuck it toss 300 more hp on me'

that's beautiful
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2014, 01:29:12 PM
protip do not ever run a low-caliber luci team in the top level of poring tower you won't even be able to scratch the demons literally took me 45 minutes to clear the fucking dungeon because i had to charge lucinukes on every floor it was awful F--------- would not recommend

oh and i didn't get a poring :persona:

Next time I'm gonna run my Dark Liege team and use a Luci friend. That EXP is not something to pass on.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 14, 2014, 03:30:26 PM
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1108

God

Damn.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 03:32:55 PM
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1108

God

Damn.
youre late to the party :V


also i ran poring once, got two poporing, fed them to Chu and got two skill ups :o

guess this makes up for all the failed attempts last time

just one more to go!

meanwhile valk is having none of that skill up stuff :<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 14, 2014, 03:36:11 PM
Umm, so did te new endless dungeon replace the old one? Im still in mine, at floor 46 and i basically cant hurt anything now without lucinuke (no gravities qq, i need a low level hera for this, high level has too many hp). I dun wanna die of old age qq.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 14, 2014, 03:47:18 PM
Umm, so did te new endless dungeon replace the old one? Im still in mine, at floor 46 and i basically cant hurt anything now without lucinuke (no gravities qq, i need a low level hera for this, high level has too many hp). I dun wanna die of old age qq.

I have a Kirin, and I decided the stone wasn't worth my time.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 14, 2014, 04:00:32 PM
Umm, so did te new endless dungeon replace the old one? Im still in mine, at floor 46 and i basically cant hurt anything now without lucinuke (no gravities qq, i need a low level hera for this, high level has too many hp). I dun wanna die of old age qq.
It did not.  Beat Endless Corridors, unlock Endless Corridors - Abyss.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 04:07:12 PM
Umm, so did te new endless dungeon replace the old one? Im still in mine, at floor 46 and i basically cant hurt anything now without lucinuke (no gravities qq, i need a low level hera for this, high level has too many hp). I dun wanna die of old age qq.
you should probably just quit, cause the final two bosses have a total of 9 MILLION HP
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 14, 2014, 04:24:05 PM
Hahaha nope never doing that dungeon

Do the Angelings have any use if I don't have a Kagu to skill up?  She gives a hefty chunk of red XP which I'm always up for.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 04:26:25 PM
It's pretty much a free pengdra
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 14, 2014, 05:28:28 PM
To whoever was talking about fully awakening legendary dragons... Dont bother. I just did legendary dragon rush on legendary and i only got 1 drop, not gonna happen =p.
For those who say they suck anyway, they worth good exp at least iirc.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 05:52:09 PM
Rank 200! :toot:

Now I'll get 2 extra team slots once patch 6.2 rolls around

if it ever does... gungho pls


>hercules

oh hey a new jp descend

do we get a new one too? izanagi? dragon fruits?

nope
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 14, 2014, 06:29:09 PM

For those who say they suck anyway, they worth good exp at least iirc.

For that stamina cost, you can probably run a few tier 5 dungeons and/or the biweeklies and come up with comparable rank and more pokemon xp.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 06:32:13 PM
So running Poring on Master has gotten me a bunch of regular Poring. I was wondering if I should just use them for exp, but then I remembered Mastering has awakenings and I can awaken it without any exp!

...except it turns out Mastering's awakenings aren't out yet in NA GUNGHO PLS
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 14, 2014, 06:58:00 PM
Poring on Expert seems to give average of 1 ing, while Master seems to give average of 3 ings not including boss. Disadvantage is not getting slimes, which is irritating.
Oh yeah and I have a fun mastering now. Even have Bodin/Gigantes/Jotunn for him, just need a ama or Ceres.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 14, 2014, 08:03:40 PM
First Ruby Dragon run, first floor, TAMADRA GET  :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2014, 08:23:41 PM
Next time I'm gonna run my Dark Liege team and use a Luci friend. That EXP is not something to pass on.

this is no good a team of 3 demons shanked me
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 08:35:10 PM
To whoever was talking about fully awakening legendary dragons... Dont bother. I just did legendary dragon rush on legendary and i only got 1 drop, not gonna happen =p.
For those who say they suck anyway, they worth good exp at least iirc.

very late to the party, found that out- I'm just gonna try and nab the two ult'd dragons I don't have and go from there.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 14, 2014, 09:20:47 PM
protip do not ever run a low-caliber luci team in the top level of poring tower you won't even be able to scratch the demons literally took me 45 minutes to clear the fucking dungeon because i had to charge lucinukes on every floor it was awful F--------- would not recommend

welcome to me in every normal and technical I have left with Ama/Odin.

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
It helps if you have an Ancient/Whiskey Dragon, especially one that's max skilled, because then you have a flat 25k enemy wave nuke every 4 turns
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
i have completely awakened valhalla

who i already had

good news i'm just missing muspelheim now
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 14, 2014, 09:47:48 PM
It helps if you have an Ancient/Whiskey Dragon, especially one that's max skilled, because then you have a flat 25k enemy wave nuke every 4 turns

Yeah I missed really being able to do them last time they were around but I know their cooldown gets hilarious. :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2014, 10:04:31 PM
I think I may grab a 6pack of stones soon-- a godfest is apparently coming up, due to facebook, and thanks to the Target fraud my card is being canceled in 2 days and I won't have one for like two weeks :persona:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 14, 2014, 10:54:01 PM
I think I may grab a 6pack of stones soon-- a godfest is apparently coming up, due to facebook, and thanks to the Target fraud my card is being canceled in 2 days and I won't have one for like two weeks :persona:

Good luck on getting those supposed Sonias that might be appearing this upcoming Godfest  :3


No luck on Poring Tower skillups yet aside from like.. Vamp and my third Guard Water mob, but I did manage to get 3/3 King Flamie skillups  :D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2014, 10:57:55 PM
Good luck on getting those supposed Sonias that might be appearing this upcoming Godfest  :3

BLUE SONIA BEST SONIA AND ABSENT

THEREFORE FUCK THE SONIAS
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 14, 2014, 10:59:14 PM
got so many black and blue porings

black porings for vampire lord skillups

bubblies for future siren
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2014, 11:38:24 PM
Good luck on getting those supposed Sonias that might be appearing this upcoming Godfest  :3

I actually really want a Valk of any kind ;-;

Or Metatron, for that matter :(

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 12:50:23 AM
ofcourse my only failed run had the last dragon i wanted drop

;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2014, 01:06:02 AM
Okay so is it at least somewhat decently possible to get a poring from the Expert level instead of the Master level

Spending 45 fucking minutes twice for nothing is a waste of an hour and a half of my day.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 15, 2014, 01:59:36 AM
Okay so is it at least somewhat decently possible to get a poring from the Expert level instead of the Master level

no (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=32569&pid=301607#pid301607)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 02:14:03 AM
Last time Poring tower was around I ran expert like crazy and spent several stones but never got poring to drop once.

Master on the other hand drops them fairly often, at about the same drop rate as Rainbow Keeper.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2014, 02:41:44 AM
ughhhhh master is such a pain in the ass though :(

And I need TWO porings too if I want a Mastering :T
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 08:42:12 AM
double batman teams are complete trash

why does pdx reccomend them for tengu they straight up never work
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2014, 01:11:01 PM
I hate tengu dungeon :(

THEREFORE I WILL CONTINUE TO IGNORE IT YAY
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 15, 2014, 02:05:23 PM
Yo I'm going to be in the PORING TOWER RUNS FOREVER.
I've got 99 problems stamina, and a stone would solve one
But I don't want to go down that route OR DO I???

...
...
...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 02:29:12 PM
>jp getting ver 6.4 soon

yeah okay that's just great


oh fucking hell

turn one i get everyone with minimum cooldown

then i do TOO MUCH DAMAGE and knock ogre into low hp range

and then i get hit FOR EXACTLY 2 HP OVER MY MAX HP ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

2 HIT POINTS


EVERYONE IS MAX LEVEL ON THIS TEAM TOO

I LITERALLY NEEDED ONE + EGG TO SURVIVE


ugh this dungeon is a huge pain...


I hate tengu dungeon :(

THEREFORE I WILL CONTINUE TO IGNORE IT YAY
;___;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 15, 2014, 04:35:32 PM
Yeah me too. Plus i cant really see tengu being THAT much more useful than dat black mini odin dragon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 04:47:07 PM
i need him for legendary earth dragon, since no odin ability will help against dat 100000 attack

also triple skill boost can help sometimes
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 06:15:18 PM
Quote from: Dark/Light Anubis Leader Skill
At 10 combos, attacks are 10x and with each successive combo it increases up to 15x.
ROFL

WHY WOULD YOU EVER NEED MORE THAN x100 I DONT KNOW

WELP THERE'S x225 DAMAGE NOW FOR ANYONE THAT NEEDED IT


At least D/D Anubis gets 8 Combo 4x, 9 Combo 7x, 10 Combo 10x which makes him strictly better than Robin
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
ROFL

WHY WOULD YOU EVER NEED MORE THAN x100 I DONT KNOW

WELP THERE'S x225 DAMAGE NOW FOR ANYONE THAT NEEDED IT


At least D/D Anubis gets 8 Combo 4x, 9 Combo 7x, 10 Combo 10x which makes him strictly better than Robin

so what i'm hearing is get D/L anubis gotcha

Yeah me too. Plus i cant really see tengu being THAT much more useful than dat black mini odin dragon.

he's worse because even though you only need to be at half hp for him to work you'd probably need to recover less from odin-block

which is amazing actually

plus side his awakenings are pretty baller and his cooldown starts shorter

his stats are worse because ontop of that 0 rcv he has more hp- that you don't want for zombie teams lol
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 06:30:31 PM
so what i'm hearing is get D/L anubis gotcha
#onetruemotherfuckinggod

Also with x225 damage he deals around 50 million damage. I wonder if this means gungho will make a descend in the future with that much hp...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2014, 06:33:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/PLqYeUs.jpg)

I could cry.
And now all my luci friends are using other monsters so I have nothing to do but waste time waiting for them to switch back. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
do you have any x3 attack leaders?


Bleh, clearing Master took two stones because I couldn't stall long enough before i reached the will-o-wisps

(http://i.imgur.com/ovyaXhl.png)

but i got the drop :toot:

not sure if i should bother with legend

maybe i'll wait until i can get a flame chaser
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
I have Suzaku, if that's what you mean. Though she's hardly ready for something like this...

Otherwise no.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2014, 07:02:46 PM
zzz burning stamina forever on not tamadras from dragon dungeons

At least the king rate seems very high.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 07:05:45 PM
And now all my luci friends are using other monsters so I have nothing to do but waste time waiting for them to switch back. :(

fixed. not trying tengu again for a bit- i think my team is just too underleveled/-where is my rcv-

#onetruemotherfuckinggod

Also with x225 damage he deals around 50 million damage. I wonder if this means gungho will make a descend in the future with that much hp...

possibly and then everyone crys because it's not tricolor

edit: FUCK i forgot to get a third blue guardian welp gg totes no shot at twinlits
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2014, 07:22:01 PM
Invite sent to Chaore o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
Invite sent to Chaore o/

...Ohhhh you're not on my friends list already :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2014, 07:24:37 PM
I was not.  >.o
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2014, 07:26:19 PM
I'm going to punch the twinlit dungeon in the face so hard it'll have no idea what happened
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 07:27:40 PM
I'm going to punch the twinlit dungeon in the face so hard it'll have no idea what happened

i am engaging backup odin strats since valk is too weak anyway it MAY NOT BE ENOUGH
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 07:34:03 PM
how do you odin twinlits ???
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 07:36:42 PM
how do you odin twinlits ???

BY USING HIM AS A HIGH HP SUB WHEN YOU NEED HP B)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 07:38:54 PM
BY USING HIM AS A HIGH HP SUB WHEN YOU NEED HP B)
oh okay i was thinking leader


also i just realized why so many monsters have exactly 600k defense...

IT'S SPECIFICALLY TO GUARANTEE PROTECTION AGAINST LUCIFER :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
oh okay i was thinking leader


also i just realized why so many monsters have exactly 600k defense...

IT'S SPECIFICALLY TO GUARANTEE PROTECTION AGAINST LUCIFER :V

odin is the worst stall leader truefacts


also welcome to gungho's utter hatred of lucifer
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 15, 2014, 08:47:48 PM
Before Tengu dropped I entertained the idea of farming it for Hamahime to skill up Hanzo.


hahahahahaha hell no fuck that


Ran it 3 times, managed to 0-stone it twice on Master with D/D Bats just barely, got Tengu on 2nd attempt. Died on the first wave the third attempt. Never doing this dungeon again. I'll wait for Samurai dungeons for Hanzo skillups.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 08:53:22 PM
whoops i got master and legend mixed up in my last post

its hard to tell which is supposed to be better just from the names >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 08:54:32 PM
Before Tengu dropped I entertained the idea of farming it for Hamahime to skill up Hanzo.


hahahahahaha hell no fuck that


Ran it 3 times, managed to 0-stone it twice on Master with D/D Bats just barely, got Tengu on 2nd attempt. Died on the first wave the third attempt. Never doing this dungeon again. I'll wait for Samurai dungeons for Hanzo skillups.

yeah i'm thinking i'm just going to poringring and save the current team for a later attempt

the dungeons kind of dicks and i just want tengu for completions sake
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 09:19:14 PM
Quote
Avalon Drake, god
Active: Change all orbs to wood and light orbs
Leader: 2x HP/ATK for god types
oh man put this guy on a bastet team and you got some real damage potential

Quote
Dragon Samurai, dragon
Active: Change heal to poison orbs and 2x dragon atk for 1 turn
Leader: 2.5x ATK to dragon types
lol
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
They appear to be gacha only.  Fucking fantastic. :|

Edit: (http://i.imgur.com/zmNNurs.png)

Well, at least he looks awesome.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 09:43:22 PM
i think they might get their own machine like Batman

but then avalon drake will probably be the hardest to get :V


also he has a giant sword that looks like a guitar you cant get better than that
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2014, 09:45:09 PM
Time to start saving up stones. >_>

Seriously though: Bastet/Avalon Drake/Athena/Cosmo Venus/???/Bastet

All of my damages.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 09:51:35 PM
Time to start saving up stones. >_>

Seriously though: Bastet/Avalon Drake/Athena/Cosmo Venus/???/Bastet

All of my damages.
last sub king shynee

(http://i.imgur.com/yiSipHA.jpg)

although athena kinda doesn't work with bastet

More practical in general would probably be Bastet/Echidna/Valk/Avalon/Venus. Echidna + Valk regular shenanigans and Avalon + Venus to auto kill bosses. Replace Valk with Shynee to OHKO even Satan.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 15, 2014, 09:56:20 PM
last sub king shynee

(http://i.imgur.com/yiSipHA.jpg)

although athena kinda doesn't work with bastet

More practical in general would probably be Bastet/Echidna/Valk/Avalon/Venus

How about Parvati? Alternately you can go Genbu instead of Avalon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 09:58:06 PM
With Genbu though you lose out on damage with dark orbs and need to combine with Verche to do the same thing that Avalon does with just one skill

Also if Avalon has his own REM then Genbu is also harder to get
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 10:15:25 PM
last sub king shynee

King shynee is actually what legit makes bastet a good leader

otherwise shes meh if you can't get like 6+ combos

x48 damage is pretty horrifying though

also avalon could lead to big orb stacks and not enough combos so theres that, venus is a great idea to help with that

edit: oh wait avalon is dragon so yeah :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2014, 10:22:11 PM
Avalon is god, apparently

HEY GUYS IZANAGI :dragonforce:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
Avalon is god, apparently

HEY GUYS IZANAGI :dragonforce:

oh dear god
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 10:26:54 PM
Avalon is god, apparently

HEY GUYS IZANAGI :dragonforce:
RIP everything

and edible's wallet if we ever get Avalon REM :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 15, 2014, 10:28:08 PM
I wanna try twinlits but i need to skill up my ecchi more first qq.

I want super hera so bad though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 10:29:07 PM
I wanna try twinlits but i need to skill up my ecchi more first qq.

I want super hera so bad though.

i keep messing up my chances for twinlits fff forgot i need to do saphires in 2 hours for orochi leveling

i mean i can't super horusu yet anyway but god damnit
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 10:39:03 PM
I wanna try twinlits but i need to skill up my ecchi more first qq.

I want super hera so bad though.
Super Hera needs 3 devilits though, so you pretty much aren't going to get her unless you can either 0-stone the dungeon or are willing to spend a lot of stones
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
Super Hera needs 3 devilits though, so you pretty much aren't going to get her unless you can either 0-stone the dungeon or are willing to spend a lot of stones

this applies to like everything though because twinlit trolling

twinlits are still the worst evo material, true facts

Edit: Did we ever get fruit dragons or is NA facebook flat out trolling us with shit we won't have
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 11:01:23 PM
no we dont even have the fruit dragons yet so i dont know why they're teasing the flower dragons now


also the sonia fruits are even worse than twinlits because they're both hard to get and totally useless
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 11:11:29 PM
no we dont even have the fruit dragons yet so i dont know why they're teasing the flower dragons now


also the sonia fruits are even worse than twinlits because they're both hard to get and totally useless

twinlits aren't as bad as sonia fruits by far

but twinlits are actually required for a growing amount of evos now which is annoying and bad because they're limited and hard to get
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 11:21:57 PM
What's also funny is many of the ult evos that need twinlits ALSO HAVE DRAWBACKS, like generally losing a lot of stats in exchange for a 'potentially' better leader skill. So basically they're harder to get AND have drawbacks while normal ult evos are much easier to get and have no drawbacks so ???
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 15, 2014, 11:35:22 PM
like horus f/l

I want it so bad but the RCV ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 11:44:37 PM
What's also funny is many of the ult evos that need twinlits ALSO HAVE DRAWBACKS, like generally losing a lot of stats in exchange for a 'potentially' better leader skill. So basically they're harder to get AND have drawbacks while normal ult evos are much easier to get and have no drawbacks so ???

Light Zeus is a straight ulti, tsukuyomi sacrifices some hp and rcv but has fucking massive attack even if his leader skill is shit tier, Light Horus is fucking lol, light Isis makes her actually viable (and even then cuts her already massive rcv a bit and some attack for some nice hp), Light ra is barely changed from dark ra (but is shit because his leader skill is shit), why the fuck does this shinra bansho character need angelits that's fucking absurd, Light angel is fucking awful in all regards (500 hp for 100 attack eew) but we've pretty much established the healer twinlits are gungho being fucking drunk

so overall angelits are almost completely positive changes

And as for devilits- Zeus Stratios has -recover but it helps with his leader skills, Hera is a straight ulti, Arcane Monarch has straight up superior stats to dark liege only hampered by the fact gungho was drunk and made him the wrong main color.

So so far devilit is completely beneficial (likely to change when dark healer girls appear)

the only dissapointment twinlit ultis are is the fact that the healer girl versions are insanely awful (alraune won't even have the benefit of being arguably a better healer sub like valk angel will)

like horus f/l

I want it so bad but the RCV ;-;

HE GAINS 700 FUCKING ATTACK

SCREW THE RECOVERY

edit: oh alraune's screenshots don't show a stat change. HOPE FOR DEVIL SIREN????
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2014, 11:54:15 PM
Light Zeus is a straight ulti, tsukuyomi sacrifices some hp and rcv but has fucking massive attack even if his leader skill is shit tier, Light Horus is fucking lol, light Isis makes her actually viable (and even then cuts her already massive rcv a bit and some attack for some nice hp), Light ra is barely changed from dark ra (but is shit because his leader skill is shit), why the fuck does this shinra bansho character need angelits that's fucking absurd, Light angel is fucking awful in all regards (500 hp for 100 attack eew) but we've pretty much established the healer twinlits are gungho being fucking drunk

so overall angelits are almost completely positive changes

And as for devilits- Zeus Stratios has -recover but it helps with his leader skills, Hera is a straight ulti, Arcane Monarch has straight up superior stats to dark liege only hampered by the fact gungho was drunk and made him the wrong main color.

So so far devilit is completely beneficial (likely to change when dark healer girls appear)

the only dissapointment twinlit ultis are is the fact that the healer girl versions are insanely awful (alraune won't even have the benefit of being arguably a better healer sub like valk angel will)

HE GAINS 700 FUCKING ATTACK

SCREW THE RECOVERY

edit: oh alraune's screenshots don't show a stat change. HOPE FOR DEVIL SIREN????
the screenshots show them at their lowest level and stat changes are only relevant as you level up

according the jp plays L/L Ra is better but i guess that's cause matching all orbs + hearts is nothing to them :derp:

also i dont get the  shinra bansho thing either HE LITERALLY JUST GAINS 300 HP and 50 ATTACK AND NE NEEDS BOTH TWINLITS WHAT
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 15, 2014, 11:57:03 PM
the screenshots show them at their lowest level and stat changes are only relevant as you level up

sad

they're probably going to follow angel's suit then and have terrible stats for no real reason

like i don't know what i was thinking when I said valk angel might be an okay healer sub that is way too much hp loss for what an on-color sub and 100 attack
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 12:01:25 AM
technically LL Angel isn't losing stats since she's still has way more stats than normal Angel

But yeah only L/B Angel has remotely acceptable stats since all the healer girl's stats are just so bad

only Echidna can really get away with having such awful stats because of how OP her active is


also L/B Angel actually has a use for zombie teams since her leader ability is as strong as Amaterasu's
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 12:08:23 AM
technically LL Angel isn't losing stats since she's still has way more stats than normal Angel

But yeah only L/B Angel has remotely acceptable stats since all the healer girl's stats are just so bad

only Echidna can really get away with having such awful stats because of how OP her active is

hey sirenlife is legit ;W;

and yes she loses stats via opportunity cost of choosing her over L/B

ecchi-sama's stats are so bad i can rationalize not evoing her for twinlits

isn't it sad ecchi-sama
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 12:13:55 AM
pff ecchi is anything but poor she's literally the most used sub in the entire game :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 12:16:54 AM
pff ecchi is anything but poor she's literally the most used sub in the entire game :V

you know exactly what i mean

also fuck i still only have 8730 hp pre-friend leader with twinlit team

I NEED MORE EXP
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 12:27:41 AM
more like you need a blue keeper cause orochi gains over 1k hp when ult evoed

to be honest though the dublits are the least of your worries. If you can clear the dungeon for just a stone used on the dublit preemptive then I would totally go for it

the real problem is all the stones it takes to take down the twinlits themselves ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 12:34:24 AM
more like you need a blue keeper cause orochi gains over 1k hp when ult evoed

to be honest though the dublits are the least of your worries. If you can clear the dungeon for just a stone used on the dublit preemptive then I would totally go for it

the real problem is all the stones it takes to take down the twinlits themselves ;_;

yeah i could use that too

it's a shame i literally can't get it now and literally fucking hate myself for not getting it earlier why am i so god damn stupid

this twinlits literally caught me flat footed ugh

see the problem is that is no no I am not completely sure i can clear the dungeon with just one stone used

not to mention yeah the problem is the twinlits, if I get shitty boards (THIS HAPPENS. A LOT.) or fuck up my combos theres really little coming back.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 12:40:44 AM
the worst thing was when i was trying to beat down the last bits of the angelit's life

at that point i had already used up a bunch of stones, but since devilit was dead, angelit had used angrilit and one hit me every turn

so each stone i used literally gave me just 1 board to match and then i would die

sometimes the board would suck and bam, 1 stone spent on pretty much nothing

but at that point i had already used up too many stones to quit so i had to just keep wasting on...

so yeah fuck this dungeon

I WAS HOPING that Ult Isis would be out before the next twinlit so I could just make them go boom with King Shynee + big combo and the reward would be ult evoing Isis to W/L but noo we aren't even on patch 6.2 yet...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 12:43:28 AM
the worst thing was when i was trying to beat down the last bits of the angelit's life

at that point i had already used up a bunch of stones, but since devilit was dead, angelit had used angrilit and one hit me every turn

so each stone i used literally gave me just 1 board to match and then i would die

sometimes the board would suck and bam, 1 stone spent on pretty much nothing

but at that point i had already used up too many stones to quit so i had to just keep wasting on...

so yeah fuck this dungeon

I WAS HOPING that Ult Isis would be out before the next twinlit so I could just make them go boom with King Shynee + big combo and the reward would be ult evoing Isis to W/L but noo we aren't even on patch 6.2 yet...

If you can't kill them in one round of double delay basically just give up is what i'd say.

so yeah aaaagh i guess I'll have to skip this dungeon?

maybe i could switch in a keeper but then losing gravity would be really huge ugh
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 12:49:15 AM
If you have the stamina to waste on saturday, then I'd say at least give it a try for practice, because even if you have a perfect Horus team, you still have to know how much damage you need to do on floor one to kill everything but one mythlit and then you have to try to stall without killing it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 12:51:31 AM
If you have the stamina to waste on saturday, then I'd say at least give it a try for practice, because even if you have a perfect Horus team, you still have to know how much damage you need to do on floor one to kill everything but one mythlit and then you have to try to stall without killing it.

suppose

this dungeon is just all kinds of dicks and honestly i'm going to hate having to do the run around for probably atleast three evolutions
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 16, 2014, 12:53:27 AM
So glad I have nothing that cares about twinlits yet. Idk where I would begin. Don't have Zeus. Don't have a second skilled Echidna. I do have a lilith, but idk if I want to bother skilling her.

Personally, the twinlits seem like a really poorly designed dungeon.

I think twinlits are going to be here almost every event. I wouldn't worry about it.

However, I am looking at Athena. She still seems kinda hard though. I'm mainly worried about Cu Chu. Idk if I can recover that quickly.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 12:55:02 AM
Personally, the twinlits seem like a really poorly designed dungeon.
oh on the contrary

it is a very well designed dungeon

for $$gungho$$


also >athena

Chu doesn't really hit THAT hard. If you have a team with really good RCV you can just keep tanking his hits. Also at 50% hp he alternates between using gravity and attacking so you only need to heal 8k every 2 turns (since the gravity cant kill you)


man i wish i could beat athena with this team. (http://www.padherder.com/user/Suikama/teams/#12960) it would be hilarious :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 01:15:07 AM
also >athena

Chu doesn't really hit THAT hard. If you have a team with really good RCV you can just keep tanking his hits. Also at 50% hp he alternates between using gravity and attacking so you only need to heal 8k every 2 turns (since the gravity cant kill you)

8k is kind of a lot for most teams

i know isis waifu has a lot of recovery but she's kinda abnormal :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 01:18:48 AM
well that and i keep watching videos of all +297 clears :V

dammit japan do you have no mercy for the weaker player ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 01:37:29 AM
i've been in the same poring tower round since 2:30

it is 8:30 now

i've already used a stone on cheapass triple-sync'd demons

i swear if I don't get a poring out of this I am gonna probably not throw my phone across the room and keep trying because fuck this
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 01:38:44 AM
i've been in the same poring tower round since 2:30

it is 8:30 now

i've already used a stone on cheapass triple-sync'd demons

i swear if I don't get a poring out of this I am gonna probably not throw my phone across the room and keep trying because fuck this

matsy matsy stop

masterings aren't worth it they're pretty bad
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 01:40:24 AM
do you see now chaore

do you see the terrible power of lucifer and why gungho wishes he never existed
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 01:45:34 AM
do you see now chaore

do you see the terrible power of lucifer and why gungho wishes he never existed

how does this even

what
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 01:46:01 AM
matsy matsy stop

masterings aren't worth it they're pretty bad

i don't even care i have wasted over five fucking hours on just five rounds of this shit and god DAMN it all I am getting that mastering

:colbert:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 01:49:30 AM
how does this even

what
i mean how painful and unfun playing lucifer is

like if Lucifer was still the optimal leader for new lategame descends a lot of people would get turned off this game pretty quickly

i don't even care i have wasted over five fucking hours on just five rounds of this shit and god DAMN it all I am getting that mastering

:colbert:
matsy pls at least use someone with x2 attack ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 01:54:38 AM
i mean how painful and unfun playing lucifer is

like if Lucifer was still the optimal leader for new lategame descends a lot of people would get turned off this game pretty quickly

playing stall is so BORING holy fuck have been at this silly puzzle game so long I can smell colors and see sound and i want to claw my eyes out

Quote
matsy pls at least use someone with x2 attack ;-;

I've tried. Without x2HP or x2RCV it's just too hard for me at this point :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 01:55:13 AM
playing stall is so BORING holy fuck have been at this silly puzzle game so long I can smell colors and see sound and i want to claw my eyes out

I've tried. Without x2HP or x2RCV it's just too hard for me at this point :(
who do you haaaveeee

gives us all the detailssss
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 01:58:30 AM
Right now I'm using:
Seraph of Dawn Lucifer lead
Keeper of Rainbow for HP and defense if needed
Drawn Joker for hearts
Ghostring because I need SOME source of damage that isn't all 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Dub-Mythlit because I only had 1 cost left
and Lucifriend

it is worth noting that on EVERY FLOOR but floor 5 so far this round has had at least two demons on it. Fuck these bastards forEVER
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 02:01:15 AM
i mean how painful and unfun playing lucifer is

like if Lucifer was still the optimal leader for new lategame descends a lot of people would get turned off this game pretty quickly

this isn't normal at all because demons are complete dicks and one of luci's weaknesses???

i know you're all paru because you're stuck with a low-tier leader like isis but plz

playing stall is so BORING holy fuck have been at this silly puzzle game so long I can smell colors and see sound and i want to claw my eyes out

playing stall when you have more control over the situation than LOL DEMONS ENJOY NOT EVEN SCRATCHING US is a lot better

it's still plinky but it's not how monotonous and flows a lot better because unlike most teams you can take hits and actually recover

demons you just need to store orbs, keep healing, and unleash a big combo and it sucks

matsy pls at least use someone with x2 attack ;-;

and then die because pitiful everything else

good plan B)

I've tried. Without x2HP or x2RCV it's just too hard for me at this point :(

the best way is to go 4x attack 2 Hp/Rcv, you have higher attack than luci but much more workable hp and rcv

it's like luci but better against trash mobs and worse against bosses and completely useless latergame

Right now I'm using:
Seraph of Dawn Lucifer lead
Keeper of Rainbow for HP and defense if needed
Drawn Joker for hearts
Ghostring because I need SOME source of damage that isn't all 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Dub-Mythlit because I only had 1 cost left
and Lucifriend

it is worth noting that on EVERY FLOOR but floor 5 so far this round has had at least two demons on it. Fuck these bastards forEVER

this is because the only other mob poring master has then porings is demons and porings are ~uncommon~
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 02:08:58 AM
Right now I'm using:
Seraph of Dawn Lucifer lead
Keeper of Rainbow for HP and defense if needed
Drawn Joker for hearts
Ghostring because I need SOME source of damage that isn't all 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Dub-Mythlit because I only had 1 cost left
and Lucifriend

it is worth noting that on EVERY FLOOR but floor 5 so far this round has had at least two demons on it. Fuck these bastards forEVER
I meant leader monsters in general

this isn't normal at all because demons are complete dicks and one of luci's weaknesses???

i know you're all paru because you're stuck with a low-tier leader like isis but plz

playing stall when you have more control over the situation than LOL DEMONS ENJOY NOT EVEN SCRATCHING US is a lot better

it's still plinky but it's not how monotonous and flows a lot better because unlike most teams you can take hits and actually recover

demons you just need to store orbs, keep healing, and unleash a big combo and it sucks

and then die because pitiful everything else

good plan B)

the best way is to go 4x attack 2 Hp/Rcv, you have higher attack than luci but much more workable hp and rcv

it's like luci but better against trash mobs and worse against bosses and completely useless latergame

this is because the only other mob poring master has then porings is demons and porings are ~uncommon~
burst teams can take hits and recover just fine

you just need +297 eggs on everyone :V

or just have a bunch of heartbreakers cause they all have good stats minus Valk (well she brings good rcv which is also very necessary)


also i meant if mats has a x2 atk leader then it can be at least be paired with a x2 HP/atk or x2ATK/RCV friend


also also 2/4/2 mono color can actually handle descends fine but they need significant investment (like farming goemon skillups oh boy >_>)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 02:23:35 AM
i didn't get the poring

after all that time

i didn't get the fucking poring

and only ONE poringlike drop

the rest are fucking demons

seven fucking demons

oh and to add insult to injury not a single one skillup'd my hellray harpie demon

i hate this game i hate it so much


I meant leader monsters in general


also i meant if mats has a x2 atk leader then it can be at least be paired with a x2 HP/atk or x2ATK/RCV friend
Uhhhh let's see, now that I can actually look at my box...

I have Seraph of Dawn Lucifer, Suzaku, UmiYama, Blazing Phoenix Knight Homura, Dark Liege Vampire Duke, Love Deity Chaos Venus, Hellray Harpie Demon, Drawn Joker, Dino Rider, and Top Droidragon

you can tell that some of these I haven't really even touched and others i have gone all-out on

(and honestly if the lattermost can actually reflect the damage I take and wipe out the enemies that would be GLORIOUS)


but at least I took so long doing this dungeon that I only have to wait an hour until I have enough stamina to try again right? riiiiiight?

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 02:29:03 AM
You could pair Dark Liege Vampire Duke with a friend D/D batman for a 2/4/2 dark team. it will play a bit like lucifer but trading HP and RCV for much better attack

or you could run suzaku with my Isis and one hit everything :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 02:30:34 AM
You could pair Dark Liege Vampire Duke with a friend D/D batman for a 2/4/2 dark team. it will play a bit like lucifer but trading HP and RCV for much better attack

or you could run suzaku with my Isis and one hit everything :derp:

i'd suggest duke if you haven't practiced suzaku/are bad at comboing because while suikama's girth is mighty it is probably gonna lead to some pretty low hp
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 02:32:39 AM
well my isis alone has 3700 hp so even if all your subs are only around 1k that's a 8700 hp team which is enough to tank a demon hit if you mess up

not enough for surviving mastering though (you can clear expert really fast at least :derp:)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 02:36:04 AM
You could pair Dark Liege Vampire Duke with a friend D/D batman for a 2/4/2 dark team. it will play a bit like lucifer but trading HP and RCV for much better attack

or you could run suzaku with my Isis and one hit everything :derp:

I've actually already tried the first option and I just didn't have enough HP and RCV to handle it, unfortunately :(

And I'd try the latter but if I take a single hit I'd probably be ruined. :(

i'd suggest duke if you haven't practiced suzaku/are bad at comboing because while suikama's girth is mighty it is probably gonna lead to some pretty low hp

See I probably would if I had the cost to support it! Like, if I could cram three RKs in there for HP I would be fine but... well, cost.

I can try again, I suppose, if not only because I'm at my wit's end. I can say for sure that I think I've become hella good at comboing at this point because well I've had h o u r s upon h o u r s of practice now but I still don't feel confident enough to try Suzaku/Isis if not only because I'm not sure how to build the team. Though I have a feeling Top Droidragon would have a nice spot in there because fuck your defense.




oh my god stop posting so I can respoooond

well my isis alone has 3700 hp so even if all your subs are only around 1k that's a 8700 hp team which is enough to tank a demon hit if you mess up

not enough for surviving mastering though (you can clear expert really fast at least :derp:)

Yeah, Mastering would be my biggest worry because I don't think I have anything that can tank that. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 02:40:55 AM
For Isis/Suzaku subs, first of all echidna is the best  sub if you have one.

After that keepers are pretty good because of thier high HP and thier active ability will save you from a few mastering hits. One green and one light if you can (for suzaku).

Heart breakers are good for keeping the combo train going strong.

Other than that, anyone you have with good stats to fill the gaps.

it would be so helpful if you had a padherder
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 02:43:46 AM
it would be so helpful if you had a padherder

HEY SUIKAMA I HAVE A PAD HERDER TELL ME WHAT TO DO FOR TWINLITS B)

edit: relatedly i just got the pun in arashi's signature

arashi has lost all of the cool points for being donut >:<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 02:45:01 AM
For Isis/Suzaku subs, first of all echidna is the best  sub if you have one.

After that keepers are pretty good because of thier high HP and thier active ability will save you from a few mastering hits. One green and one light if you can (for suzaku).

Heart breakers are good for keeping the combo train going strong.

Other than that, anyone you have with good stats to fill the gaps.

it would be so helpful if you had a padherder

I have an Echidna, but she's not fully evolved yet, nor is she skilled up at all. Does that matter?

And I think I have a green and a light keeper lemme check-- no, the only keepers I have atm are fire, light, dark, and rainbow.

The only heartbreaker I have is Dark Liege Vampire Duke and I don't think he'll fit >.o

And yeah I may as well finish setting up padherder god knows I don't want to play anymore right now
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 02:47:46 AM
I have an Echidna, but she's not fully evolved yet, nor is she skilled up at all. Does that matter?

And I think I have a green and a light keeper lemme check-- no, the only keepers I have atm are fire, light, dark, and rainbow.

The only heartbreaker I have is Dark Liege Vampire Duke and I don't think he'll fit >.o

And yeah I may as well finish setting up padherder god knows I don't want to play anymore right now

Evolved- no her stats are pretty awful and near max in second evo

skilled up, yeah that's pretty important especially if you're no hitting

also yeah pad herder is useful even if i wish it auto updated off my account
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 02:56:18 AM
http://www.padherder.com/user/Matsuri/

there I added all of my significant ones I guess

also I had a keeper of water too that I missed so there's that
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 02:57:07 AM
I have an Echidna, but she's not fully evolved yet, nor is she skilled up at all. Does that matter?

And I think I have a green and a light keeper lemme check-- no, the only keepers I have atm are fire, light, dark, and rainbow.

The only heartbreaker I have is Dark Liege Vampire Duke and I don't think he'll fit >.o

And yeah I may as well finish setting up padherder god knows I don't want to play anymore right now
any ecchi is good

Suzaku, Ecchi, Light keeper, now you need a green sub. What do you got?


HEY SUIKAMA I HAVE A PAD HERDER TELL ME WHAT TO DO FOR TWINLITS B)

edit: relatedly i just got the pun in arashi's signature

arashi has lost all of the cool points for being donut >:<
i'm pretty sure i already did :V

what you have right now is pretty good. Double delay, gravity + I'm assuming you're gonna have Odin over Valk unless you evolved your valk recently

the real challenge then comes down to skill (and luck)

you have to clear the first wave and stall on it

then you have to clear stage 2 in the time you get with your first delay (which still isnt much cause they have a lot of hp and not a long attack time)

then if you dont have enough hp you have to stone stage 3, delay, kill the dublits (easier than stage two at least) and then stall on tamadra

and then the real hard part comes with the final boss where you have to make crazy orb matches to kill them


there is one trick though that you can do during the tamadra. if you move an orb but make no matches from it, it doesnt count as a turn for activating your skills, BUT it still winds down the clock on binds, so you can take your time as if you have a permanent change the world on and set up a really nice board for your first attack on the twinlits. as long as you dont kill the tamadra by accident...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 03:03:28 AM
any ecchi is good

Suzaku, Ecchi, Light keeper, now you need a green sub. What do you got?


padherder updated. Alraune maybe? UmiYama?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 03:04:50 AM
http://www.padherder.com/user/Matsuri/

there I added all of my significant ones I guess

also I had a keeper of water too that I missed so there's that
I don't see suzaku there :derp: oh it updated

anyways

Suzaku, Homura, Echidna, Keeper of Light, Poporing, Isis

HP: 8719

cost: 73 which you should have enough for

Plow through demons, stall on poporing, try to reach mastering with all skills up. Then echidna, suzaku, and keep making red/light/green combos. Use poporing or homura if you dont have enough orbs. If the mastering is about to attack, use light keeper to take one hit. You get 9 turns to deal 900k damage which shouldn't be too hard if you keep making good matches.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 16, 2014, 03:08:22 AM
hmmmm.

Without a friend leader, I have 2385 RCV. Think that's enough to deal the Cu Chu?


EDIT: Masterings are legit. Get a whole team of them and you'll clear just about every tri-color ever. They're good enough that Max Murai saw fit to feed his Susanoo to one for the +s.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 03:13:19 AM
hmmmm.

Without a friend leader, I have 2385 RCV. Think that's enough to deal the Cu Chu?


EDIT: Masterings are legit. Get a whole team of them and you'll clear just about every tri-color ever. They're good enough that Max Murai saw fit to feed his Susanoo to one for the +s.

>feed susanoo

why would you ever

sure susanoo is pretty crap stat-wise and his skill isn't really great but it's mastering
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 03:15:20 AM
>feed susanoo

why would you ever

sure susanoo is pretty crap stat-wise and his skill isn't really great but it's mastering
it's Max Murai

he probably already has like 3 of them max skilled +297
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 03:16:26 AM
it's Max Murai

he probably already has like 3 of them max skilled +297

oh okay

in that case yeah go ahead mastering's stats are kinda legit
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 03:20:21 AM
Hm, okay. I suppose it's worth a shot.

I am trying it in the endless dungeon first though, and it feels super risky though. The board is not fair to me at all :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 03:21:01 AM
oh man what if

Anubis, Mastering, Mastering, Mastering, Mastering, Anubis

Just keep spamming refreshes until you get a good board, then destroy :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 03:32:17 AM
oh man what if

Anubis, Mastering, Mastering, Mastering, Mastering, Anubis

Just keep spamming refreshes until you get a good board, then destroy :V

10 combos straight up need skyfalls though imo

or boards that not even four refreshes will get you

bastet would be better but again :healkerlive':
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 03:49:59 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/sRfafFl.png)

so i decided to test that party and yeah that's the highest I have EVER gone, let alone on my first try

and yeah i could have gone farther but I got overconfident and should have used Suzaku-- I was trying for a good combo but my finger slipped :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 03:50:46 AM
Isis is great isn't she BV
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 03:52:46 AM
Even when I never had any water orbs to match? Yeah. May as well try Poring Master again after that.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 03:59:32 AM
Even when I never had any water orbs to match? Yeah. May as well try Poring Master again after that.

you've become a burst sellout

i'm disappointed in you ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 04:06:47 AM
stall is boring oh my god

And yeah I totally bombed on Poring Master. Used one stone but wasn't willing to use two. Fuck demons forever and ever and ever and ever.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Sophilia on January 16, 2014, 04:12:05 AM
Hehehe, my blue team is having no trouble at all with the tower.

However, vampire and lil refuse to skill up at all so I'm just throwing exp at idp and Kushinada.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 16, 2014, 04:12:20 AM
arashi has lost all of the cool points for being donut >:<

:(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 04:16:08 AM
stall is boring oh my god

And yeah I totally bombed on Poring Master. Used one stone but wasn't willing to use two. Fuck demons forever and ever and ever and ever.

yeah burst is a lot more dicey when you're not on one of the easiest dungeons of the game and demons are really good at pressuring burst because they have low attack cooldowns

stall mostly giveth not a fuck it's just annoying to pierce their defense.

also still disappointed in you
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 04:21:21 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/U5Io4oF.png)

OH BABY FUCK YES

TY VERY MUCH FOR X1.5 TAMADRA RATE GUNGHO
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 04:26:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/U5Io4oF.png)

OH BABY FUCK YES

TY VERY MUCH FOR X1.5 TAMADRA RATE GUNGHO

still haven't seen a tamadra

not sure what to do with the one i have :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 16, 2014, 04:29:07 AM
still haven't seen a tamadra

not sure what to do with the one i have :v

I use mine to hold +eggs. Then I gave it to Kirin.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 16, 2014, 04:30:41 AM
HEY SUIKAMA

fuck you ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 16, 2014, 04:35:14 AM
stall is boring oh my god

And yeah I totally bombed on Poring Master. Used one stone but wasn't willing to use two. Fuck demons forever and ever and ever and ever.

If that bores you, I should you. Don't go in to Hera descended with the resist Odin stuff. You will be bored to tears. Chucking down 2 mil with nothing but a gungnir takes forever. We need more lucis. I want a blue Luci.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 04:38:33 AM
If that bores you, I should you. Don't go in to Hera descended with the resist Odin stuff. You will be bored to tears. Chucking down 2 mil with nothing but a gungnir takes forever. We need more lucis. I want a blue Luci.

technically she exist she's called gabriel

you know what that's perfect actually

give all the angels double strength luci actives for their ultis

and bind resist
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 04:39:29 AM
still haven't seen a tamadra

not sure what to do with the one i have :v
if you're gonna late game main the bird then you might as well max awaken him for dat extra match time

HEY SUIKAMA

fuck you ;_;
:smug:

technically she exist she's called gabriel

you know what that's perfect actually

give all the angels double strength luci actives for their ultis

and bind resist
watch them do this

and have it cost 5 twinlits :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 04:45:51 AM
if you're gonna late game main the bird then you might as well max awaken him for dat extra match time

extra match time is i guess a thing but the short term benefit is terrible ;w;

may save it for hera because it shaves 233 damage off dublit pawnch if i get close in hp

watch them do this

and have it cost 5 twinlits :V

i would legit evolve every angel i have because stall master race

my wallet can suffer for all i care
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 04:54:55 AM
I just read a guide with an interesting proposition for twinlits

it uses Isis, ecchi, Lilith, two Hera's, and bastet

stall 10 turns round 1, poison round 2, stal round 3, pop everything in 4

Bastets ability is great for the twinlits themselves and she covers both green and light so maybe you can try something similar with Horus ie Horus ecchi oorochi two Hera bastet
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 16, 2014, 05:02:13 AM
HEY SUIKAMA

fuck you ;_;

I got one from the pal machine last night. :V

My JP account has so many I max awakened the Jotunn I pulled already evo'd to that stage because god knows I can't evo anything myself and if I did I could max awaken them right away anyway. Even after feeding Jotunn three.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 05:03:25 AM
I just read a guide with an interesting proposition for twinlits

it uses Isis, ecchi, Lilith, two Hera's, and bastet

stall 10 turns round 1, poison round 2, stal round 3, pop everything in 4

Bastets ability is great for the twinlits themselves and she covers both green and light so maybe you can try something similar with Horus ie Horus ecchi oorochi two Hera bastet

hmm. Possible! Two gravities and bastet would make a pretty easy twinlits- though I'd have to use hades instead because I don't have a second hera

alternatively i could slot in an rk to not use a stone because i have nine turns anyway

but bastet's leader skill actually kinda hurts my damage output a bit if i can't combo during mass cats and

hmm

well atleast i have edible for this
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 16, 2014, 06:15:30 AM
DMeta requires so many awakenings to be better it's not funny x__x I've been lucky and have gotten 3-4 tamadra so far off the 1.5, all from dragon dungeons.

Welcome to the spike damage club Matsy it's a fun place to be :3 I'm so glad that I never have to run OOH Sea God with a Luci sub again. DMeta takes me ~12-15 quick turns and it's really hard to fuck up.

I will be attempting to Twinlits and stoning the preemptive, because my desire for D/L Tsukuyomi is just that great. Ridiculous dark attacker with +25% orb movement time? Gibe all plx ;_;


asdfadfafs I am so fucked. Doing it with my current team (DMeta, Haku, Hanzo, Lilith, Echidna) is NOT going to be pretty. Can't even reliably stone the last wave once it gets to a certain point, because i'll never be able to get under 80% health.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 06:18:23 AM
DMeta requires so many awakenings to be better it's not funny x__x I've been lucky and have gotten 3-4 tamadra so far off the 1.5, all from dragon dungeons.

Welcome to the spike damage club Matsy it's a fun place to be :3 I'm so glad that I never have to run OOH Sea God with a Luci sub again. DMeta takes me ~12-15 quick turns and it's really hard to fuck up.

I will be attempting to Twinlits and stoning the preemptive, because my desire for D/L Tsukuyomi is just that great. Ridiculous dark attacker with +25% orb movement time? Gibe all plx ;_;


asdfadfafs I am so fucked. Doing it with my current team (DMeta, Haku, Hanzo, Lilith, Echidna) is NOT going to be pretty. Can't even reliably stone the last wave once it gets to a certain point, because i'll never be able to get under 80% health.

yeah uh setting up for dmeta on twinlits is probably going to be a thing

you have fun with that (though you have infinite stones so it'll be fine)

also you are all terrible people ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 06:26:00 AM
I am not even remotely sorry stall is effective but it is also about as exciting as watching bread get moldy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 16, 2014, 06:38:59 AM
yeah uh setting up for dmeta on twinlits is probably going to be a thing

you have fun with that (though you have infinite stones so it'll be fine)

also you are all terrible people ;w;

From what I've been able to gather from videos and the like, r1 is 'mass attack and kill all but mythlits to stall, good fucking luck ifyou don't have maxed hanzo up on t1', r2 is lilith'd, r3 is kill dublits and stall on Tamadra forever, and r4 PRAY that devilit attacks after a round, get hit by Angelit, and then unleash. Might be able to get under 80% from the Tama round but i'm not sure.

The thing is, I WONT have infinite stones. If I die when only Devilit or Angelit is up, they beserk and one shot me. No amount of stones will save me from then on.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 16, 2014, 06:53:04 AM
I am not even remotely sorry stall is effective but it is also about as exciting as watching bread get moldy

I wouldn't mind stall if it didn't take an hour to go through dungeons with it. That said, I don't mind tank teams because I have a two Heras and one Hera-Is. 2/4/2 mono-blue is still my favorite team.

Btw, how does Kirin fare in Twinlits?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 16, 2014, 07:03:52 AM
I wouldn't mind stall if it didn't take an hour to go through dungeons with it. That said, I don't mind tank teams because I have a two Heras and one Hera-Is. 2/4/2 mono-blue is still my favorite team.

Btw, how does Kirin fare in Twinlits?

Honestly it's probably my favorite too but I have two viable leads for it, probably the best average stats on it out of my teams, and Abyss Neptune slots into kind of a lot of other team options for me too, so I'm kinda biased. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 16, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
Imgur is so easy on mobile device.

(http://i.imgur.com/pitNpng.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 16, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
Oh yeah I have twelve poporings stored because

(http://i.imgur.com/EWSlQ3R.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 16, 2014, 08:33:26 AM
Looks like the next Godfest is Archangel and Japanese God (1.0) according to PDX.


Thank GOD. A Godfest where there's no temptation to roll.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 12:59:27 PM
Imgur is so easy on mobile device.

(http://i.imgur.com/pitNpng.jpg)

HOW >:<

Looks like the next Godfest is Archangel and Japanese God (1.0) according to PDX.


Thank GOD. A Godfest where there's no temptation to roll.

meanwhile I am now flailing around because archangels yes please and my card is deactivated due to my bank shutting everyone's card down to protect us from fraud and the new one hasn't arrived yet aaaaaa
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 01:57:02 PM
Might be able to get under 80% from the Tama round but i'm not sure.
nope not possible because angelit heals you to full
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 03:47:35 PM
Oh shit!

Tomorrow we actually get Poring Tower x2 drop rate!

itshappening.gif



i just noticed that devilit has taken a bite out of his orb staff

no wonder they're called the fishballs
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 16, 2014, 04:49:04 PM
So 2x drop rate is when I want to be blitzing through the 25 stamina one even if I mostly want the yellow guys right?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 04:56:00 PM
Yes

The only reason to run Master during x2 is for Mastering
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 16, 2014, 05:01:39 PM
nope not possible because angelit heals you to full

Oh derp, that's right. Well, guess ill pray the Angelit attacks first.


And holy shit Poring 2x. I'm glad I haven't been stoning Poring much all this time. Still, I think I'm going to keep my farming to a minimum due to lol 72 stamina.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 16, 2014, 05:06:49 PM


meanwhile I am now flailing around because archangels yes please

I thought you hated stall.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 16, 2014, 05:16:04 PM
For subs I gather - Uriel would be a great defensive sub for me if I could get him with the red/heart orb making, and I'm guessing the same is true for the other guys.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2014, 05:34:16 PM
I thought you hated stall.

I do. That doesn't mean I can't like monsters that look cool though :p

That said I really do hope I get one of the Metatrons.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 05:36:05 PM
Oh man every single Sonia changes to dark orbs and has dark enhance awakening

So any Sonia would be amazing for dark meta


in other news this week's Kill la Kill featured the Four Chinese girls Creatures :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 16, 2014, 07:21:26 PM


in other news this week's Kill la Kill featured the Four Chinese girls Creatures :V

I thought those were the Elite four. I want Blue Sonia, Blue Odin, and Green Sonia more than anything else in the godfest. Don't care about Luci, I'll just wait for the dark snowglobe dragon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 07:32:10 PM
I thought those were the Elite four. I want Blue Sonia, Blue Odin, and Green Sonia more than anything else in the godfest. Don't care about Luci, I'll just wait for the dark snowglobe dragon.
nah, this episode there literally was Genbu, Suzaku, Seiryuu, and Byakko :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 16, 2014, 07:36:33 PM
Well, I was going to watch klk but apparently crunchyroll delayed it again.  wtf?

Edit 2: Whoops nevermind it's just my CR app being silly

Edit: THIS IS NOT THE KLK THREAD WHAT AM I DOING

Man where the hell are gold dragons :colbert:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
Well, I was going to watch klk but apparently crunchyroll delayed it again.  wtf?

Edit 2: Whoops nevermind it's just my CR app being silly

Edit: THIS IS NOT THE KLK THREAD WHAT AM I DOING

Man where the hell are gold dragons :colbert:
I just farm tower of dragons for them now

At least you only need one gold per pengdra, plus you can get the dragon plants you need too


(http://i.imgur.com/iW5lDb9.png)

holy wow those awakenings this thing is amazing

with bastet that's already 4 green enhances, which is around the break even point of 1 row vs 2 x 3 orbs (well not with bastet i guess unless you hit 7 combos)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 16, 2014, 08:09:37 PM
20 turn cooldown no bueno.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 08:11:51 PM
Unskilled Change the World is also 20 CD so it works out :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
Looks like the next Godfest is Archangel and Japanese God (1.0) according to PDX.


Thank GOD. A Godfest where there's no temptation to roll.

Hey Ama is still pretty useful, even when healer upgrades hit. She'll prolly be the only method of bind control the game offers.

Susanoo is kind of worthless though.

also Luci is superior to all of your leaders so you need him B)

i'm probably not rolling myself, ama would be fantastic but i don't really need anything and the sonias that are up are the useless ones B)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 08:29:12 PM
you can always roll for more lucis

and skill him up B)


oh hey the self poison dragon is an attacker and has row enhance

so he's clearly made for Dark Meta

although he still only enhances dragon damage lol


Quote
Increase damage after 4+ combo ( 4 combo = 2.5x, 0.5x per combo, caps at 3.5x ).
So uh the light dragon thing is pretty much a mini Bastet :derp:

Oh it's not even a dragon it's a God/Healer


Man Gungho seems to be really pushing for Row burst to be the new meta with the Heroic gods and all these new subs like Sonia with full board orb changes + tons of row enhance awakenings
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 16, 2014, 08:44:09 PM
also Luci is superior to all of your leaders so you need him B)

Ahahaha if I get a Luci I will feed it to a Carbuncle


Actually now that it's falling on a Dark Carnival I kinda want to roll if only for the chance at GRYPS RIDER FINN  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 16, 2014, 08:53:11 PM
Unskilled Change the World is also 20 CD so it works out :V

>implying my venus isn't max skill

;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 08:54:17 PM
well you dont have a padherder so i wouldnt know :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 16, 2014, 08:56:37 PM
Okay fine god :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 09:02:34 PM
Ahahaha if I get a Luci I will feed it to a Carbuncle


Actually now that it's falling on a Dark Carnival I kinda want to roll if only for the chance at GRYPS RIDER FINN  :ohdear:

Spite because you're all randomly deciding stall sucks for bad reasons is not a good reason to get rid of one of the best mons in the game.

Also Luci is a way of self-damage too so that helps for failatron. also riders are bad and you should feel bad

you can always roll for more lucis

and skill him up B)

You have no idea how much i wish that could be a thing. Seriously 25 CD luci would be straight up great.

oh hey the self poison dragon is an attacker and has row enhance

so he's clearly made for Dark Meta

although he still only enhances dragon damage lol

So uh the light dragon thing is pretty much a mini Bastet :derp:

Oh it's not even a dragon it's a God/Healer


Man Gungho seems to be really pushing for Row burst to be the new meta with the Heroic gods and all these new subs like Sonia with full board orb changes + tons of row enhance awakenings

Self poison isn't too bad except it's not nearly immediate for DMeta thou :v If it ticked on the skill activate it'd be great.

also yeah row burst is kinda the new hotness.

It's straight up better because it's easier to learn and also (Possibly?) better burst, so it makes people more likely to stick around whereas egyptian was kind of frustrating and china sometimes wasn't much better.

I think it'll lose it's luster because it has board life problems and unlike egyptian is nowhere near as versatile.

It's a lot friendlier and less toxic a burst meta, even if it's still burst meta.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 09:12:14 PM
On the other hand a lot of row teams depend on a lot of REM subs like Dmeta wants Gryps Rider and Hattori Honzo who are both REM only while Combo burst can use all farmable stuff like Ecchi, Heartbreakers, and Heras so that might be a real reason $gungho$ is pushing to make them really strong

Also they need a lot of Tamadra to get thier row enhances and skill boosts
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 16, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
On the other hand a lot of row teams depend on a lot of REM subs like Dmeta wants Gryps Rider and Hattori Honzo who are both REM only while Combo burst can use all farmable stuff like Ecchi, Heartbreakers, and Heras so that might be a real reason $gungho$ is pushing to make them really strong

That's probably more likely.  :fail:

Oh well. I could dream of a day where toxic metas aren't gunghos forte.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 09:15:36 PM
always trust in money meta
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 16, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
http://www.padherder.com/user/Edible/

Okay here have this halfhearted and utterly inaccurate thing because I'm way too lazy to make it even remotely accurate :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 09:44:36 PM
>making only your leader High so they sit on top of everyone

Edible knows how it's done BV
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 16, 2014, 10:02:05 PM
When I promoted Ares to KING LEVEL 99 ARES he waltzed his way to the top of my list on his own as he should :colbert:
(actually I can't figure out how to demote Santamon whoops)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 16, 2014, 10:40:34 PM
My Account > change Done position to whatever

EDIT: Oh wait are you not talking about padherder? Because i can't find you on there. idk if it's in game fuck around with the sort until you find a way you like. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2014, 10:54:54 PM
I always have my box sorted by CHR

The new sort function would be nice except it's glitchy as hell and it sends my monsters flying everywhere in random directions
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 16, 2014, 11:29:18 PM
sort by fav
I always have my box sorted by CHR
That is bad, and you should feel bad.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 17, 2014, 12:04:47 AM
CHR already puts all monster your using in teams at the top so FAV is pretty useless

Of course FAV + CHR would be optimal but gungho needs to fix their shit. Right now it will throw your sub randomly around like I had my starter dragon at the very end of the box no matter what while Sort was on.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 17, 2014, 12:41:29 AM
CHR makes it easy for me to find all the Pokefood  :3

My Account > change Done position to whatever
Whoa I didn't know that was a thing thanks!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 17, 2014, 03:26:51 AM
20 turn cooldown no bueno.
oh yeah also he has 2 skill boosts so more like 18 turns cool down

and since venus also has 1, more like 17
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 17, 2014, 03:28:59 AM
Whoa I didn't know that was a thing thanks!

It's a pretty recent addition actually, I only know about it because I am compelled to clear away the spinny star thing on the news whenever padherder updates.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 17, 2014, 05:13:08 AM
Spite because you're all randomly deciding stall sucks for bad reasons is not a good reason to get rid of one of the best mons in the game.

Also Luci is a way of self-damage too so that helps for failatron. also riders are bad and you should feel bad

What is a good reason to decide that stall sucks? I feel like 'Man this is boring, not necessary, and not the way I want to play this game' a perfectly defensible reason for a *game* that is to be *enjoyed*. It's not exactly random either. I have no problems with people who are all about stall and I salute the person who took two weeks to down Neptune on Hera.

And I probably wouldn't get rid of him if I actually do roll him. I'd just.. probably never ever use him. The self-damage while nifty I don't see justifying using him in Winatron on most occasions. I also have pretty much every other team option besides Lucifer available to me on top of it (DMeta, Kirin, Byakko, every mono color, Ama-Odin, resist , Valk, Bastet, Satan, Isis, Horus, Ra, #ONETRUEGOD). Besides, if I want Luci for the self-damage for attackers that then I'll just wait for the Eva collab and spam stones for Unit 13, who has a blue morning star and is attacker type..

Oh I feel hilariously bad about actually needing Gryps Rider more than anything else in the game right now outside of Angelit, but it's soo good on DMeta and outside of Ares is the only other good thing i'm missing that could be a staple for the team. I have Dragon Rider, Yomi, D/D Bats, Hanzo, Kagutsuchi, Freyr... etc. But literally at this point there isn't a single Godfest god that I need. I don't have any Japanese 2.0 gods and Izanagi might be useful, and Parvati would probably be nifty, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 17, 2014, 06:21:45 AM
Dammit nobu how much have you spent on this gameeeeee

Also hello kitty collab...

There is no escape


I just realized that this is a game where you can play a team that has hello kitty, an angry bird, the goddamn batman, an ancient spirit turned anime girl, and fucking SATAN
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 17, 2014, 06:37:46 AM



 an ancient spirit turned anime girl

Which one is that?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 17, 2014, 06:50:24 AM
all of them :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 07:14:53 AM
What is a good reason to decide that stall sucks? I feel like 'Man this is boring, not necessary, and not the way I want to play this game' a perfectly defensible reason for a *game* that is to be *enjoyed*. It's not exactly random either. I have no problems with people who are all about stall and I salute the person who took two weeks to down Neptune on Hera.

Not just saying 'lol it's so boring and you do nothing' like exactly nothing happens when most of them time that's not at all how stall actually plays. I'm mostly just upset because this stemmed from a really bad and abnormal situation and people are acting like this is just what stall is, straight to saying that I'm just playing an unfun and lame playstyle.

And yeah you've been the least offensive about this, but I'm still kinda >> at all this in general.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 17, 2014, 07:20:32 AM
Not just saying 'lol it's so boring and you do nothing' like exactly nothing happens when most of them time that's not at all how stall actually plays. I'm mostly just upset because this stemmed from a really bad and abnormal situation and people are acting like this is just what stall is, straight to saying that I'm just playing an unfun and lame playstyle.

And yeah you've been the least offensive about this, but I'm still kinda >> at all this in general.

Yeah. Everyone has that team they really like. I felt pretty similar when I found there were a lot of dungeons I couldn't tackle with I&IStill the best. Sorry Suikama :derp:. Even though I have Kirin. I still like my mono-blue the most.

That said. I'm starting to feel a bit burnt out on this game. I don't want to go the pain of skilling my gravities. When's Izanami coming out. I wanna replace Hera-Is with her in Kirin.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 17, 2014, 07:27:08 AM
Not just saying 'lol it's so boring and you do nothing' like exactly nothing happens when most of them time that's not at all how stall actually plays. I'm mostly just upset because this stemmed from a really bad and abnormal situation and people are acting like this is just what stall is, straight to saying that I'm just playing an unfun and lame playstyle.

And yeah you've been the least offensive about this, but I'm still kinda >> at all this in general.

surprise surprise people are free to have different opinions

Just because I don't like stall doesn't mean you're not free to, after all-- and it does have its merits. But after spending literal hours on a single goddamn dungeon using the method I will be as spiteful toward it as I want to be, and I don't care if it's an abnormal situation or not. It was boring as hell and I resented every second of it. So let people dislike it if they want.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 17, 2014, 07:35:34 AM
Dammit nobu how much have you spent on this gameeeeee

More than $200, less than $600? ... I hope.

:colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 07:55:24 AM
More than $200, less than $600? ... I hope.

:colonveeplusalpha:

Funny, that's around where I am. ...you got more gods for your money's worth ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 17, 2014, 08:01:59 AM
Funny, that's around where I am. ...you got more gods for your money's worth ;w;

Yeah, my friend teases me for having really good luck with the REM. Last Godfest I got 2x Hades, Yomi, DMeta, Byakko, Kirin, and BOdin in under 16 rolls. And I had most of the other gods in the godfest already.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 08:12:49 AM
Yeah, my friend teases me for having really good luck with the REM. Last Godfest I got 2x Hades, Yomi, DMeta, Byakko, Kirin, and BOdin in under 16 rolls. And I had most of the other gods in the godfest already.

are you serious

i hate you ;w; I ROLLED SEVEN BLANKS
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 17, 2014, 08:21:40 AM
yeah I have luci and I use him....uhh...not infrequently? I like to think I kinda do 33% luci, 33% haku, and 33% valk/hera-ur. It may appear to be luci more than it is though cuz runs involving him last longer for obvious reasons...Actually I frequently goto bed doing a run with him until I get tired, put my phone down, sleep, and finish up the run when I'm ont he bus or something.

Needless to say I find him kinda boring to use too, but fact is he's almost always the best choice for anything that CAN be done with him because there's so little luck involved, I feel like anything I can do with him, I WILL do with him, without fail or stones or anything. With other leads, there's always a chance of a death due to bad orbs. Or even one little finger slippage during full-health can result in death, with luci, you can eff up a turn and no biggie, just focus on healing the next turn and you're good.

So basically, I use him for dungeons that are really hard that he can handle that I only really wanna do once and then bail on, though I do like him for hera too (slow yes, but I have gravities now, and charging luci+gravity doesn't take that long when you're unconcerned about survival, just mash 1 chain combos to speed up the charging time and do a bigger combo on turns 3-4 for healing time, I probably can do hera with haku/valk but they're long so chances of a fatal eff up or bad luck orb thing are quite high).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 17, 2014, 08:22:33 AM
Sorry. ;.; If it's any consolation I just blew some stones rolling the Dark Carnival to get Gryps and didn't get anything notable aside a couple plus eggs, a second Yomi, a PKH, and a Reimu. I guess now I can ogle her whenever I please now which is a plus.

Once I get another point of stamina I'm going to attempt Goddess Descended mythical with DMetas. Looks like I basically have to take a hit on wave 1, then sweep the dungeon. I'd try it on legend but it seems the only difference is HP, and i'm not worried about hitting 3.7 light HP with a 48x multiplier and a bunch of dark goons. We'll see how it goes. Wave 1 might give me trouble if I get more than 3 devils at once.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
Sorry. ;.; If it's any consolation I just blew some stones rolling the Dark Carnival to get Gryps and didn't get anything notable aside a couple plus eggs, a second Yomi, a PKH, and a Reimu. I guess now I can ogle her whenever I please now which is a plus.

Once I get another point of stamina I'm going to attempt Goddess Descended mythical with DMetas. Looks like I basically have to take a hit on wave 1, then sweep the dungeon. I'd try it on legend but it seems the only difference is HP, and i'm not worried about hitting 3.7 light HP with a 48x multiplier and a bunch of dark goons. We'll see how it goes. Wave 1 might give me trouble if I get more than 3 devils at once.

Reimu is totally quality though, I rolled just for her early in my career!

Also yeah goddess is pretty easy, DMeta shouldn't have too many things to worry about since it's an older dungeon.

yeah I have luci and I use him....uhh...not infrequently? I like to think I kinda do 33% luci, 33% haku, and 33% valk/hera-ur. It may appear to be luci more than it is though cuz runs involving him last longer for obvious reasons...Actually I frequently goto bed doing a run with him until I get tired, put my phone down, sleep, and finish up the run when I'm ont he bus or something.

...am I the only one who doesn't really seem to take forever when using Luci?

Like he's longer but it doesn't seem long enough I'd actually straight up go to sleep...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 17, 2014, 08:38:31 AM
...am I the only one who doesn't really seem to take forever when using Luci?

Like he's longer but it doesn't seem long enough I'd actually straight up go to sleep...

I used to use a lot of Loki + Lucifer before and that wasn't too bad. That was how I farmed OOH. And requires a lot less brain power than combo or Egyptian-style gods definitely, so turns wouldn 't take very long.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 17, 2014, 08:40:47 AM
...am I the only one who doesn't really seem to take forever when using Luci?

Like he's longer but it doesn't seem long enough I'd actually straight up go to sleep...

In my case it's more "doing it when already in bed and tired anyway" (I mean yeah I don't have a Luci but Ama/Odin has the same problem there, I have definitely fallen asleep while playing P&D before :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 08:42:01 AM
In my case it's more "doing it when already in bed and tired anyway" (I mean yeah I don't have a Luci but Ama/Odin has the same problem there :V)

Ama/Odin is generally worse because you don't have luci nukes or gravity usually to speed it up :v

(also I think the subs may be a bit weaker? unno, tipsy now so)

edit: it also is a bit more auto so you rarely think about the board like you do with luci, you don't need to keep on clearing it or really interact much at all with it so you do less damage overall
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 17, 2014, 08:50:22 AM
(also I think the subs may be a bit weaker? unno, tipsy now so)

My subs are literally just whatever the fuck :V

like I think right now I have it Neptune/red ripper/green ripper/dark ripper because the last time I used it for anything i cared about was supers, usually I have Gigas instead of the red ripper because he's got the best stats of my red subs (except RCV obv lol :V) but the other rippers are still nice because trash mob wave clearing is pain.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 08:58:35 AM
oh god why did i decide to goddess while drunk

edit: have i mentioned i enjoy getting hit by binds and getting cut off before i can match my hearts by orb timer

oh well i wasn't really invested in this run
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 17, 2014, 11:53:05 AM
Godfest started early, I see. Hopefully I can gather two more stones for a second pull...

Edit: first draw was Succubus. Sigh.

Edit2: had some extra funds in my T-Mobile account. Succubus, Vritra, and Susano.

... This game really wants me to play stall doesn't it :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 17, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
FK

I rolled once because i had enough stones for it.

PLUS GOLD EGG

...

Hanzo.

GG

EDIT: Rolled in the REM simulator. First pull astaroth lol
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
Godfest started early, I see. Hopefully I can gather two more stones for a second pull...

Edit: first draw was Succubus. Sigh.

Edit2: had some extra funds in my T-Mobile account. Succubus, Vritra, and Susano.

... This game really wants me to play stall doesn't it :(

Susanoo is a pretty good suzaku sub actually :v

His active is great for when you can't do enough damage and you need to take some hits.

Vrita likewise seems like he'd be a mediocre DMeta sub or something- He's okay in Luci too because you can combo his active after luci and he's got nice stats I guess?

edit: Okay susanoo is actually super rad according to Suikama, I'm just meh about him :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 17, 2014, 02:24:55 PM
Yeah, Vritra is definitely going in my luci team when I have the cost. May as well take advantage of that extra 100000 damage, especially since I tend to stagger my luci blasts so I can use them every 17 turns- this way I can combo twice as often...

Susanoo I'm still unsure about. Like, I can definitely see him in my Suzaku team, but in place of who? And Susa's also Balanced too so he'll be good on a Homura/Kamui/Cu Chulainn team too, but...  Hmm. Suikama get in here and explain what is so great about him because he seems like little more than an enhanced Keeper of Forest who isn't as good as Keeper of Rainbow :s

And while I was thinking Susa's leader skill was pretty lame, I just realized it would work well when paired with Odin, reducing at least one hit to next to nothing. Combine that with awakened healers that recover HP every turn and that could be pretty useful...  But it'd be a hella weak stall team too unless I toss luci in as a sub and Vritra to combo, then have Alraune use active skill for hopefully a close to full recovery? Hmm.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 03:10:43 PM
And while I was thinking Susa's leader skill was pretty lame, I just realized it would work well when paired with Odin, reducing at least one hit to next to nothing. Combine that with awakened healers that recover HP every turn and that could be pretty useful...  But it'd be a hella weak stall team too unless I toss luci in as a sub and Vritra to combo, then have Alraune use active skill for hopefully a close to full recovery? Hmm.

Odin works way better with an auto-heal. Keep in mind Susanoo's leader skill would only shave off 5% more at that point :v

Really while he could be ~*~Super Rad~*~ as the only all resist in the game without a limitation...it's just too low to be worth it. You can get 44% with two Susanoo but that's using both leader spots and I tend to find resist+auto heal better than double resist anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Bio on January 17, 2014, 04:24:04 PM
Susano has better stats, 5 turns instead of 3.
Part of a healthy textbook Horus team. Green is decent colour.

Speaking of which I can finally make a full fledged Horus team. Thank you godfests for being great and allowing me to obtain these 4 flaming falcons and nothing I ever need.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
Susano has better stats, 5 turns instead of 3.
Part of a healthy textbook Horus team. Green is decent colour.

Speaking of which I can finally make a full fledged Horus team. Thank you godfests for being great and allowing me to obtain these 4 flaming falcons and nothing I ever need.

hahaha holy shit did you really pull 5 hourses

that is beautiful and i am sorry for your loss (You even have spares if you max awaken one)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 17, 2014, 04:36:00 PM
Yeah, Vritra is definitely going in my luci team when I have the cost. May as well take advantage of that extra 100000 damage, especially since I tend to stagger my luci blasts so I can use them every 17 turns- this way I can combo twice as often...

Susanoo I'm still unsure about. Like, I can definitely see him in my Suzaku team, but in place of who? And Susa's also Balanced too so he'll be good on a Homura/Kamui/Cu Chulainn team too, but...  Hmm. Suikama get in here and explain what is so great about him because he seems like little more than an enhanced Keeper of Forest who isn't as good as Keeper of Rainbow :s

And while I was thinking Susa's leader skill was pretty lame, I just realized it would work well when paired with Odin, reducing at least one hit to next to nothing. Combine that with awakened healers that recover HP every turn and that could be pretty useful...  But it'd be a hella weak stall team too unless I toss luci in as a sub and Vritra to combo, then have Alraune use active skill for hopefully a close to full recovery? Hmm.
Susanoo is good for Egyptian teams because he covers the green sub role. Also him combined with Echidna = so much stall.

Compared to Keepers and golem Susanoo has better RCV, which is important since you still need to heal while their ability is active. Also 5 turns vs 3 on the same cooldown.

He doesn't work so well though if you dont have good stats, so his effectiveness is limited until you reach the lategame. He's also a bit situational since if the boss hits way to hard he won't be of any help, but in other situations like the Stone Dragons he beats out Echidna because he doesn't care about status shields.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 17, 2014, 05:10:05 PM
Vrita/luci sounds like a good combo but i find earlyish game luci alone omgwtfbbqowns everything with his nuke anyway, and when it starts to reach a point where he cant, you will prob have access to gravity, which compliments him better, and is paired with better stats too.

Vrita's ultimate looks so cool though, honestly though, i think stat/cost wise, he just may have the worst ultimate in the game =p (excluding ones with silly drawbacks for specific purposes). Susanoo is definately one of those gods that everyone would benefit to have though, stalls, spikes, whatever. His active is just so good and useful. Spike teams can rely on it to survive one shots for decent lengths of time, and stall... Well duh.

Its really an amazing active that is good for any team against any foe (except ones designed to one shot anyone no matter what). Its kinda like a less potent active than ecchi's only it works against shield bosses too! Id say he's a great score imo.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 17, 2014, 06:15:14 PM
GungHo just gave me 50 free magic stones  :getdown:

I purposely pulled before the Godfest last night when the Midnight Gala started because the only thing I was going for was Gryps Rider. Apparently they announced that the 'Godfest was LIVE' in the news bar before it was actually live, and since I rolled in that window of time they compensated me for all the rolls I did.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 06:16:02 PM
GungHo just gave me 50 free magic stones  :getdown:

I purposely pulled before the Godfest last night when the Midnight Gala started because the only thing I was going for was Gryps Rider. Apparently they announced that the 'Godfest was LIVE' in the news bar before it was actually live, and since I rolled in that window of time they compensated me for all the rolls I did.

ahahaha oh god

well you're set for twinlits
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 17, 2014, 06:28:19 PM
Mastering get.

About goddamn time.

And huh, I suppose I'll work on Susanoo after all. At the very least, I can use it in place of my light keeper and replace poporing with drops for type coverage.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 17, 2014, 09:15:11 PM
Max skilled my Siegfried, Megalodran, 2nd Siren, Vampire, Lilith, and Mastering. Valk is at 5, Angelion at 4, Titan at 5. 24 Poporings waiting on a Cu Chuu, and 28 Ghostrings waiting on a 2nd Lilith (regretting feeding off the ones I got from Satan now >_<)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 17, 2014, 09:27:37 PM
Max skilled my Siegfried, Megalodran, 2nd Siren, Vampire, Lilith, and Mastering. Valk is at 5, Angelion at 4, Titan at 5. 24 Poporings waiting on a Cu Chuu, and 28 Ghostrings waiting on a 2nd Lilith (regretting feeding off the ones I got from Satan now >_<)

meanwhile i uh

i got a level on my second siren (because if theres demon siren i may want two copies)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 17, 2014, 09:42:37 PM
2 stones and I maxed out all my heartbreakers :toot:
Much better than 2/5 of an ice golem!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 17, 2014, 09:46:28 PM
For whatever retarded reason, I've only gotten like 3 of sieg's skillup materials and like a dozen of everything else (that I don't need).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 17, 2014, 11:31:11 PM
24 Poporings waiting on a Cu Chuu
Holy...Wish I had that many...Wondering if I shoulda kept to Poring Tower instead of spending time in the Shrine of Spirits today...  The few I got over the last couple days wound up as duds.  Same with the ~5 or 6 Big Baddies for my Vampire Lord thus far, which was kinda annoying, but not surprising.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 18, 2014, 12:13:39 AM
Oh and I did decide to take a spin on the golem machine anyway because why not - I too am now a member of the Susano club Woo tank town for Suzaku :toot:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 18, 2014, 12:17:00 AM
Holy...Wish I had that many...Wondering if I shoulda kept to Poring Tower instead of spending time in the Shrine of Spirits today...  The few I got over the last couple days wound up as duds.  Same with the ~5 or 6 Big Baddies for my Vampire Lord thus far, which was kinda annoying, but not surprising.

Well thanks to 2x drops on Expert you will get a guaranteed drop on 9 of 10 floors, so it's good times especially if you need to max skill other stuff.


Update, max skilled Valk and 2 away from max on Angelion. But I can skill that up outside of poring tower sooo.. DONE! (At least until I get a second Valk)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 12:44:04 AM
this just in, Light Alraune isn't complete trash like Light Angel!

Yeah she gives up healer type which is a thing but healer type wasn't really using her anyway. Unno if balanced really wants her though.

Stats are a lot better than Light angel, not the best trade- 200 rcv for 200 hp and 80 attack is kind of less worth it, and well her leader skill is also less iffy because maybe there's good tankyness in balanced? It's certainly not as bad as tossing it at healer. Not great, but yeah.

She's flat up not worth twinlits though, Gungho is really dropping the ball with these two again sadly- but they were always the worst healer girls.

I'm just glad because she's not as straight up awful as light angel statwise.

devil siren hype
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 18, 2014, 01:03:21 AM
Godfest rolls:
-- Shardran
-- +1 Basilisk
-- Archangel Uriel (not Yomi, but may see some use?)
[tried running Valk on Legend, once again died to the stupid devil wave, bought a six-pack of stones and just kind of gave up when I saw that Valk never lets her status protection lapse even for a moment]
-- Hades (also not Yomi, but hey it's another gravity)

I guess I'm pleased with this?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 01:19:46 AM
Oh also hey Suikama guess what the sonia fruits have a use

FOR THE ON COLOR BAD DRAGON ULT EVOS :V

Edit; And the ripper ult evos!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 18, 2014, 03:12:00 AM
Ugh. Im having better luck with mythits today than ever before... But i wanna save stam to die horribly on twinlits more than once.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 03:14:10 AM
Ugh. Im having better luck with mythits today than ever before... But i wanna save stam to die horribly on twinlits more than once.

You'll have all weekend iirc so :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 18, 2014, 03:29:33 AM
Oh right, anyone want to swap Presents?  I keep forgetting I still have mine from when they reset everyone so they got extras.  (Hoping to get a Tyrra or whatever the fire one's base form is, personally, since I don't really need any of the other ones, but whatever, figure it's still a 1 in 5 chance.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 18, 2014, 05:13:59 AM
apparently there is an incoming hello kitty collab coming for jp

crossing fingers for it to come here i want a sanrio team
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 18, 2014, 05:24:07 AM
Did I... just... what.

(http://puu.sh/6oRZE.png)

EDIT: TWICE IN A ROW
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 18, 2014, 05:48:19 AM
Did I... just... what.

(http://puu.sh/6oRZE.png)

EDIT: TWICE IN A ROW

Hooray! \o/


Ran Goddess Descended Legend with my Byakko team, 2-stoned but got the Valk sooooo I'm pretty happy.

I'm trying to stop myself from attempting to skill it up over the next two hours >_< Need to save my stones for twinlits.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 05:57:35 AM
Hooray! \o/


Ran Goddess Descended Legend with my Byakko team, 2-stoned but got the Valk sooooo I'm pretty happy.

I'm trying to stop myself from attempting to skill it up over the next two hours >_< Need to save my stones for twinlits.

TWINLITS WILL BE FUN.

I likewise i am tempted to stone for some delicious cu chu/sieg/valk skill ups, but I don't...entirely want to I suppose?

Like I basically trust my luck to be flat out wasted stone. Earlier I was just gonna sleep butttt
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 06:19:07 AM
Oh also hey Suikama guess what the sonia fruits have a use

FOR THE ON COLOR BAD DRAGON ULT EVOS :V

Edit; And the ripper ult evos!
yeah I know but pffffff they're so bad loldragons

also chu cu maxed o/

still can't get mythdubs though goddamnit
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 06:20:43 AM
yeah I know but pffffff they're so bad loldragons

also chu cu maxed o/

still can't get mythdubs though goddamnit

the stats blocks on a few are pretty decent except well

not nearly worth the materials

why does gungho keep making hard evo materials its a bad idea ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 18, 2014, 06:26:49 AM
Hooray! \o/


Ran Goddess Descended Legend with my Byakko team, 2-stoned but got the Valk sooooo I'm pretty happy.

I'm trying to stop myself from attempting to skill it up over the next two hours >_< Need to save my stones for twinlits.

What do you plan on twinlitting? From what I've seen, unless you really want a new a leader, twinlits won't do much for you.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 06:44:55 AM
What do you plan on twinlitting? From what I've seen, unless you really want a new a leader, twinlits won't do much for you.

Yomi for a DMeta sub.

It's legit because he's got a disgusting attack stat- even if his awakenings and skill are not useful for DMeta.

edit: also he's on type unlike sonias :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 18, 2014, 06:59:35 AM
Yo Suikama I amended the Suzaku team you set me up with

it is now
Suzaku
Verche
Burning Phoenix Knight Homura
Susanoo
Echidna
[insert Suzaku friend, Kushinada friend, Isis friend etc here]

Susanoo takes the role that the light keeper used to play and the Poporing's type role as wood type. Paired with Echidna, I have lots of time to stall for skills. Which is where Verche, Homura, and Suzaku come in! I'm using Verche instead of Drops because I'd much rather get rid of useless dark orbs and get light orbs instead-- and same goes for Homura and turning water orbs into fire orbs. This way, my heart orbs remain since they actually have a use. A good combo will fully heal me. Kushinada is a fantastic friend for this because she can absorb a blow just in case Susanoo is still charging.  In this way, I can effectively both use burst attacks as well as stall and heal as I wait for Suzaku/Verche/Homura to charge up to go on the offensive.

I have effectively created a team that has the ability to take and avoid hits and combined it with the excitement of a burst team. And once I get my cost up and evolve some of these monsters, my HP won't be all that bad, either. It's the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 18, 2014, 07:09:55 AM
You guys get things done so fast...

I think around this point, I was trying to get a Siren and was super happy my brachys/parvati team got me through Legendary Dragon Expert.

Even making plans for twinlits, and that's certainly not on my radar for a while.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 07:40:41 AM
Waffling on Hoursu/Orochi/Echi/Hade/Hera/Bastet or Horusu/Orochi/RK/Hades/Hera/Bastet.

I'd like to not spend a stone trying twinlits but double delay strong?

I'm really worried about doing enough damage to twinlits actually...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 18, 2014, 07:49:12 AM
Yomi for a DMeta sub.

It's legit because he's got a disgusting attack stat- even if his awakenings and skill are not useful for DMeta.

edit: also he's on type unlike sonias :v

Also he's so shiny and awesome looking :3 I want to be part of the cool Yomi club.

The awakenings might not be super useful for DMeta, but Yomi would be pretty good on Byakko and Bastet, hell even Kirin. 1 extra second is 25% more movement time. That and I could always use Yomi as a leader for a 9x Light team.

Waffling on Hoursu/Orochi/Echi/Hade/Hera/Bastet or Horusu/Orochi/RK/Hades/Hera/Bastet.

I'd like to not spend a stone trying twinlits but double delay strong?

I'm really worried about doing enough damage to twinlits actually...

I'd say go with the Orochi/Echi combo unless you have trouble hitting the 13334 threshold.. even so, without two delays I'd feel like it'd be difficult dealing with wave 2 and 3 back to back before the Dubs 1shot you.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 07:53:25 AM
Also he's so shiny and awesome looking :3 I want to be part of the cool Yomi club.

The awakenings might not be super useful for DMeta, but Yomi would be pretty good on Byakko and Bastet, hell even Kirin. 1 extra second is 25% more movement time. That and I could always use Yomi as a leader for a 9x Light team.

I'd say go with the Orochi/Echi combo unless you have trouble hitting the 13334 threshold.. even so, without two delays I'd feel like it'd be difficult dealing with wave 2 and 3 back to back before the Dubs 1shot you.

Really his attack stat alone makes him pretty damn good.

And yeah the main reason is I can't hit 13334- or 13100ish with hera defense. This caught me flat footed so my orochi isn't ult'd yet. also jesus christ watching luci vids made me forgot those dublits one shot o.o

yeah I basically need double delay then- which means atleast a stone to try. Eew.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 18, 2014, 09:09:14 AM
I DID IT!!! MOTHERFUCKING ANGELIT GET!!

(http://i.imgur.com/Qj4Gvz0.png)

Took me like 7 stones altogether, but I fucking did it.

I ran Dark Meta, Byakko, Hanzo, Lilith, Echidna with a Dark Meta sub. I got a rank up stam refresh at 3am and ran it 3 times until I finally got a favorable first turn on the 4th attempt. This team requires at least 5 dark orbs on the board, preferably 8 to survive wave 1, which is why max skilled Hanzo is so important) It went very smoothly, popped a stone on the preemptive and stalled on the Tamadra, and then wave 4 hit. Popped Byakko and Hanzo, and blasted the board, then popped Echidna. This was the result.

(http://i.imgur.com/QaltvcA.png)

4 turns might be enough to whittle down that much HP as long as I don't heal up by accident, right? WRONG.

(http://i.imgur.com/DNZ35g9.png)

Close enough. I Lilith poisoned, spent two stones, and 1xed him into the ground. Done with this godforsaken dungeon, at least for now.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 09:18:47 AM
Well atleast you didn't get trolled by a devilit drop :v

...i have to get two of those.

If it took you seven stones with a semi-legit team I may not want to do this >>...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 18, 2014, 09:39:29 AM
Well atleast you didn't get trolled by a devilit drop :v

...i have to get two of those.

If it took you seven stones with a semi-legit team I may not want to do this >>...

Yeah I was so stoked when I bombed the board and Angelit dropped. Sweating bullets up until the last minute, and was a bit crestfallen when I realized how little damage I was doing per turn. Luckily it ended up being enough.

I think you'll have an easier time with the Horus team to be honest. You'll be less likely to be orbtrolled round 1 like I was, though I guess it'll require a little bit of luck to kill everything but 1-2 Mythlits on the first wave. Calculate your damage carefully. And then, as long as you stall for your delays before the second wave hits, you should be fine.. Though the second and third wave can be scary to kill the dubs before they oneshot you. Also, stalling on Tamadra might be tricky too, because you'll be dealing damage every orb match. >_< Maybe I take back what I said about 'easier time', ehehe..

As for the last wave, you'll essentially have 9 turns to burst them down. You gotta kill at least one of them before the first delay ends, and then delay after the remaining one Angrilits. Good luck.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 18, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/YakumoSilver/1522184_610371499041554_239210590_n_zps9888cb8a.png)

OMG GUYS

IF THIS IS REAL

OMG AAAAAA
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 18, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
OH MY GOD WHY DON'T I HAVE A PARVATI

WHY DON'T I HAVE TWO PARVATIS
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 18, 2014, 02:42:09 PM
NOT ENOUGH SWORDS
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 05:09:37 PM
Yeah I was so stoked when I bombed the board and Angelit dropped. Sweating bullets up until the last minute, and was a bit crestfallen when I realized how little damage I was doing per turn. Luckily it ended up being enough.

I think you'll have an easier time with the Horus team to be honest. You'll be less likely to be orbtrolled round 1 like I was, though I guess it'll require a little bit of luck to kill everything but 1-2 Mythlits on the first wave. Calculate your damage carefully. And then, as long as you stall for your delays before the second wave hits, you should be fine.. Though the second and third wave can be scary to kill the dubs before they oneshot you. Also, stalling on Tamadra might be tricky too, because you'll be dealing damage every orb match. >_< Maybe I take back what I said about 'easier time', ehehe..

As for the last wave, you'll essentially have 9 turns to burst them down. You gotta kill at least one of them before the first delay ends, and then delay after the remaining one Angrilits. Good luck.

Yeah first wave is the trickiest. It helps I'll be using bastet and bastet does less damage than straight up horusu

Tamadra is just matching whos bound.

And yeah slightly worried the 9 turns might not be enough, since I don't have a big fuck you button like you do but welp.

(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/YakumoSilver/1522184_610371499041554_239210590_n_zps9888cb8a.png)

OMG GUYS

IF THIS IS REAL

OMG AAAAAA

Ecchi-sama~ <3

It looks like the red/red evo. Looks like they're going for Attacker type Ecchi. This... Is slightly sad because she had a passable attack and really needs HP, But could be neat.

Also makes me wonder if they're going to have something silly like Dragon-type Siren :v (I'm really hoping not, she'd be a shoe in for Water/Light then. Devil siren might be sunk because I was hoping for Attacker Lilith that dropped healer for Attacker/Devil instead of being boring)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 18, 2014, 06:40:31 PM
New ecchi is cute! Eeeek.

All my archie-hades friends are leading something else and pdx suggetions are too, qq.

I tried a desperate attempt of twinlits with my valk team but wave 1 turn 1... 2 light orbs... Yeaaahhhhh.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 18, 2014, 07:14:13 PM
Huh, the PAL egg machine really does have some oddities in it.  Just got a Neneko.  A plus'd one, too!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 07:38:03 PM
alright time for twinli-

>SUPER KINGS

fuck


also

>W/F Parvati

RAWR IM A TIGER

>W/L Parvati

^_^


also also D/L Anubis has the better leader skill AND better attribute AND needs no devilits

but D/D Anubis is the one true mother fucking god


also also also ECCHIIIIIIIIII
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 10:02:33 PM
more twinlit evos holy shit what the fuck and they're all angelit?

gungho are you really purposefully devaluing devilits just to force people to run more for the materials that actually matter

also water/light lakshimi's elephants are fucking adorable jesus christ fucking gimme

And huh, if these are all available by the end of the month, maybe ecchi-sama isn't getting a twinlit evo- replacing her leader skill with a 2xhp 2xpatk modifier wouldn't be a huge loss :v

This means even less chance of glorious devil siren thou ;w;

edit: oh wait twinlit isn't confirmed or anything

hopefully not- though tbh parvati and lakshimi's leader skills suck so hard they could use them
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 10:06:32 PM
guess who's the new op leader

it's sonia

BUT ONLY 6.25x ATTACK you say

doesn't matter still 1 hit ko's satan EASILY with no gravities (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTu595tCXn8)


although i'm trying to do the calculations for where all that damage is coming from and uh i cant seem to figure it out

some how the first rwo of orbs itself gives 160k damage PER SONIA

This is BEFORE combo multiplier and Sonia's leaders skill 6.25%

2370 attack Sonia * 1.75 for a row of fire * 1.36 for an enhanced row * 1.60 for 3 row awakening abilities * 3 for baddie is STILL only 27k damage... not even close to 160k

there is some sort of strange sorcery that is making Dark Meta and Sonia do way more damage than they appear to be able to...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 10:17:33 PM
guess who's the new op leader

it's sonia

BUT ONLY 6.25x ATTACK you say

doesn't matter still 1 hit ko's satan EASILY with no gravities (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTu595tCXn8)

Sonia pretty much makes up what she lacks from being 2.5x via having -both- red and purple enhances

doing a team with three sonias also triples that and she has a fantastic attack stat, oh and she has hera-ur enhance.

And then the all-mighty king baddy.

combined with her active, yeah, Sonia is pretty fucking hillarious. That team is nowhere near practical because three fucking red sonias though.

It's amazing though.

Edit: To give exact numbers, the modifiers combined is roughly x52.

EditEdit: Before row enhance, that is.

EditEditEdit: Ah! Theres numbers, So about 82somethhingx damage.

She's almost anubis with absolutely no comboing skill involved!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 10:20:39 PM
Sonia pretty much makes up what she lacks from being 2.5x via having -both- red and purple enhances

doing a team with three sonias also triples that and she has a fantastic attack stat, oh and she has hera-ur enhance.

And then the all-mighty king baddy.

combined with her active, yeah, Sonia is pretty fucking hillarious. That team is nowhere near practical because three fucking red sonias though.

It's amazing though.

Edit: To give exact numbers, the modifiers combined is roughly x52.

EditEdit: Before row enhance, that is.
but even 2370 * 52 is only 123240 damage per sonia

each sonia was hitting for MILLIONS in that last combo

where is this damage coming from ???

I'm guessing row enhance does way more than I'm actually thinking...


okay hold on the fact that pad has numbers so big that they are hidden behinds each other is confusing the fuck out of me
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 10:22:02 PM
but even 2370 * 52 is only 123240 damage per sonia

each sonia was hitting for MILLIONS in that last combo

where is this damage coming from ???

I'm guessing row enhance does way more than I'm actually thinking...

Row enhance is about 10%, with three red sonias about 30% so yeah revised number it's pretty large.

And then you also have to add in the fact you're using the entire board which uh massively increases damage, and then COMBO.

It's not just her raw attack stat.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 10:23:29 PM
okay the number covering thing messed me up and I assumed there was an extra zero in there
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 10:25:43 PM
okay the number covering thing messed me up and I assumed there was an extra zero in there

Regardless the numbers this is utterly hillarious, not gonna lie.

Jesus shit, good by egyptians :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 10:27:26 PM
okay so matching rows is like 20k per sonia

then multiple rows caused it to be 50k

then 8 combo made it over 100k

then x6.25 leader skill and x3 baddie makes it in the millions mystery solved :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 10:31:26 PM
okay so matching rows is like 20k per sonia

then multiple rows caused it to be 50k

then 8 combo made it over 100k

then x6.25 leader skill and x3 baddie makes it in the millions mystery solved :V

Its pretty much massive multiplier stacking. It's silly.

Something tells me gungho didn't exactly see this coming.

It works in their advantage heavily though lol they're probably not gonna bother with it.

I still want my fucking blue sonia though gungho plz ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 18, 2014, 10:36:22 PM
Fuck twinlits forever, fuck PAD, fuck gungho, fuck ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 10:39:59 PM
Fuck twinlits forever, fuck PAD, fuck gungho, fuck ;_;

./bunpat

Don't worry, twinlits are giant jerks and didn't deserve your love anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 18, 2014, 10:51:10 PM
doesn't matter still 1 hit ko's satan EASILY with no gravities (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTu595tCXn8)

Is it weird that I mostly just spent that entire video wondering why they haven't bothered to awaken the Hera-Ur? :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 10:57:40 PM
Is it weird that I mostly just spent that entire video wondering why they haven't bothered to awaken the Hera-Ur? :V

well she's not full +'d either- I get the feeling she's just been neglected a bit?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 18, 2014, 11:01:17 PM
well she's not full +'d either- I get the feeling she's just been neglected a bit?

Yeah probably, it just seemed weird 'cause even the King Baddie's awakened and Hera-Ur's seem a little better (but only a little). :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 18, 2014, 11:05:32 PM
./bunpat

Don't worry, twinlits are giant jerks and didn't deserve your love anyway.

But... But... Super hera!

I still cant find an archie-hades to partner with qq
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 11:08:07 PM
I... I think there might be a glitch with row enhance? I've been trying to iron out the exact numbers and I almost got it but there seems to be an extra multiplier coming out of nowhere.

The first row matched in the Satan fight gave Sonia 16922 fire attack, which means all the orb enhances and row enhances and stuff added about 6.2 x damage to Sonia's base 2370 attack
1.75 for the row of 6 orbs * 1.36 for the + enhance * 1.60 for the row enhance is only 3.8x
BUT if you add another 1.6 then you get 6.09x (close enough)

which is leading me to thing that row enhances are glitched and the dark row enhance multiplier is also being applied to fire damage even though it should only apply to it's own element.

of course i might just be missing something but man too much damage

well even without this 'glitch' she'd still do a million damage :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 11:10:37 PM
But... But... Super hera!

I still cant find an archie-hades to partner with qq

Super hera is massively overated really. :v Wayyy too many devilits.

Yeah probably, it just seemed weird 'cause even the King Baddie's awakened and Hera-Ur's seem a little better (but only a little). :V

Hera's first two are really trash and she's only +50 attack.

And well, Baddie works on all devil teams while hera-ur could be replaced (And was by super hera) so good call!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 11:11:15 PM
Fuck twinlits forever, fuck PAD, fuck gungho, fuck ;_;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdHTnpgpLDc

Yeah probably, it just seemed weird 'cause even the King Baddie's awakened and Hera-Ur's seem a little better (but only a little). :V
King Baddie gets awakened for free when you try to skill it up :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 11:13:55 PM
King Baddie gets awakened for free when you try to skill it up :V

He's also more +'d though so there's that!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 11:20:31 PM
Meanwhile, Isis can still do millions of damage too, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8bXJm3l5g) but only if you get a really good combo and it still only hits for like half the damage of Sonia

man at least Egyptian teams take skill to pull off

Sonia literally just takes money
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 18, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
I... I think there might be a glitch with row enhance? I've been trying to iron out the exact numbers and I almost got it but there seems to be an extra multiplier coming out of nowhere.

The first row matched in the Satan fight gave Sonia 16922 fire attack, which means all the orb enhances and row enhances and stuff added about 6.2 x damage to Sonia's base 2370 attack
1.75 for the row of 6 orbs * 1.36 for the + enhance * 1.60 for the row enhance is only 3.8x
BUT if you add another 1.6 then you get 6.09x (close enough)

Don't the row enhances only get applied on the final pre-damage boost though? So the first row being 16922 is before row enhances are applied.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 11:24:32 PM
I know that damage from +orbs is applied immediately, and the sparkly animation for row enhance happens as soon as the orbs are consumed so I'm guessing they work similarily

also if that wasn't the case then x2.56 damage is just coming out of nowhere ???
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 18, 2014, 11:32:13 PM
I know that damage from +orbs is applied immediately, and the sparkly animation for row enhance happens as soon as the orbs are consumed so I'm guessing they work similarily

also if that wasn't the case then x2.56 damage is just coming out of nowhere ???

I'd test it but all of my pad devices are out of battery, including my iPAD. >_< But I'm pretty sure that I've had experiences where I match a 6x row without my DMeta multiplier active and I get that boost at the end signifying that a multiplier has been applied.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 11:32:52 PM
i just tested it myself, turns out you were right

so uh where is that x2.56 damage coming from ???
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 11:36:58 PM
Meanwhile, Isis can still do millions of damage too, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8bXJm3l5g) but only if you get a really good combo and it still only hits for like half the damage of Sonia

man at least Egyptian teams take skill to pull off

Sonia literally just takes money

Not to mention you need all color on the board. Also that's abusing type weakness, I saw a 700k in there so that's not bad at all.

Slimes basically do a lot of work though, especially when combined with x16 bonuses.

Isis getting a secondary type was a bit unneeded though, jeez. The egyptian ultis didn't really seem like great ideas in general.

Atleast they didn't give horus a secondary type :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 11:42:08 PM
OKAY SOOOOOOO

turns out while row enhance applies after the combo, the x3 from slimes applies immediately! That explains everything.

2370 * 3 for slime * 1.36 for +orb * 1.75 for the row = 16922 right on

case closed :colbert:


slimes op
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 18, 2014, 11:43:46 PM
OKAY SOOOOOOO

turns out while row enhance applies after the combo, the x3 from slimes applies immediately! That explains everything.

2370 * 3 for slime * 1.36 for +orb * 1.75 for the row = 16922 right on

case closed :colbert:

Case closed, everyone go home (and get two sonias)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 18, 2014, 11:47:16 PM
OKAY SOOOOOOO

turns out while row enhance applies after the combo, the x3 from slimes applies immediately! That explains everything.

2370 * 3 for slime * 1.36 for +orb * 1.75 for the row = 16922 right on

case closed :colbert:

I had a feeling this might have been the case.. if you look at the damage right before boost it's around like 100k, and gets boosted to like 1-1.5 mil. Which makes no sense if it's 6.25 x row x 3.

Still, impressive amount of damage. Really wish I had a red Sonia now, hoping I get it in some godfest down the line. According to someone's DMeta calc, you can basically oneshot any boss in the game with Sonia + Hanzo + Orb Enhance + Row enhances.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 18, 2014, 11:49:20 PM
also another thing about Sonia is that holy shit 1875 attack. With +99 +orbs it's 2370 which is twice as strong as most other gods so basically its like she gets a free x2 multiplier from stats alone.

same goes for dark meta and her 1881 attack
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 19, 2014, 12:02:53 AM
also another thing about Sonia is that holy shit 1875 attack. With +99 +orbs it's 2370 which is twice as strong as most other gods so basically its like she gets a free x2 multiplier from stats alone.

same goes for dark meta and her 1881 attack

Ridiculous attack is getting a lot more common now actually.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 12:09:10 AM
(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/images/avatars/avatar_1587_1388997224.png)(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/images/avatars/avatar_1587_1388997224.png)(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/images/avatars/avatar_1587_1388997224.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 19, 2014, 12:17:10 AM
(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/images/avatars/avatar_1587_1388997224.png)(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/images/avatars/avatar_1587_1388997224.png)(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/images/avatars/avatar_1587_1388997224.png)

An excellent example!

Also Yomi, ROdin, Some of the PDZ dudes, Even then seeing 1500 attacks getting pretty common on newer dudes- even the heroic gods have 1250ish all around.

edit: also yeah i'm kinda devaluing horusu now a bit. Clearly they need to buff him with a secondary type B) (Just kidding, I'll just nab Izanagi.)

EditEdit: i do not actually suggest izanagi, bothering with a modifier when you already have x25 isn't really great anyway and the diversity is pretty much better.

Also super emeralds done and almost a full susanoo wooo now for the horror of twinlits.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 01:09:51 AM
oh right twinlits

that was a thing i was going to do

or try

...

pls im scared ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 19, 2014, 01:11:25 AM
oh right twinlits

that was a thing i was going to do

or try

...

pls im scared ;-;

DON'T YOU WANT YOUR SUPER WAIFU?

besides you only need 1 you loser
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 01:16:50 AM
Okay so stage 1 is going well so far and I'mma charging my skills...

...but how the hell am i supposed to actually clear this stage everyone on my team is as bound as a maullar drawing :<


holy shit i got lucky, i accidentally killed the mythlit, but my binds were just low enough to recover for stage 2


and now for stage 3...

JUST SURVIVED EXACTLY AGAIN HOLY SHITTTT

now its you an me tammy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 19, 2014, 01:25:53 AM
the REM simulator works for gungho i swear

it gave me like 5 +s and three super rares in a row

mind you i had everything but still
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 01:30:05 AM
okay so the tamadra is super easy because you just set up a perfect board then randomly sloosh around two orbs until everyone is unbound and kill it

NOW STOP BINDING ME ALREADY


OKAY FINAL BOSS LETS GO

oh jesus even that giant combo did barely anything gungho pls buff egypts
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 19, 2014, 01:33:09 AM
okay so the tamadra is super easy because you just set up a perfect board then randomly sloosh around two orbs until everyone is unbound and kill it

NOW STOP BINDING ME ALREADY


OKAY FINAL BOSS LETS GO

NO STONE IT

NO STONE IT FOR EDIBLE and later me
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 01:34:21 AM
fuck my hands are sweating like mom's spaghettiEminem

time to take a short break...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 01:38:10 AM
ANGELIT DROPPED!!!

...but now I'm staring at an angrilit up Devilit with 1 turn left

welp my bodystones are ready
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 01:43:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/n2uzYts.png)

FLAWLESSED VICTORY

W/L ISIS IS MINEEEEEEEEEokay not actually yet goddammit gungho

RIP 3 stones ;-;7

special thanks to Edible for being the best Bastet

welp im done with this dungeon for now


e: oh hey i just realized i got mythdublit too so yay
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 19, 2014, 01:49:17 AM
Omg those new lakshmi's are so adorable! I wanna hug her so hard her eyeballs blast out of their sockets! SQUEEEEEE.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 19, 2014, 01:49:33 AM
okay so the tamadra is super easy because you just set up a perfect board then randomly sloosh around two orbs until everyone is unbound and kill it


Wait, the binds tick down when you skip a turn? >__< I just assumed they worked like skills do.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 01:52:08 AM
Wait, the binds tick down when you skip a turn? >__< I just assumed they worked like skills do.
i think binds and poison are the only things that dont require an orb match to tick down

which is perfect because i can both stall for unbinding and then immediately kill the tamadra with poison without having to mess up my perfect board


e: just for the hell of it, rolled the rem once on my alt account (got so many stones going to nothing there anyways)

Light Metatron :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 19, 2014, 02:03:37 AM
I'm trying to practice Kirin in Endless Corridors. Btw, how many turns do I have to kill Gigas. I've been practicing assuming he goes 3-2-1-Fire and that 3 isn't a preemptive.

Also, I thought poison did require orb matching.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 02:18:39 AM
I'm trying to practice Kirin in Endless Corridors. Btw, how many turns do I have to kill Gigas. I've been practicing assuming he goes 3-2-1-Fire and that 3 isn't a preemptive.

Also, I thought poison did require orb matching.
Yeah you have 3 turns but its not preemptive so if you're lucky you can have 4.

With Kirin though you can probably OHKO him, although you want to try to drag out the fight as much as possible for the sake of stalling.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 19, 2014, 03:17:15 AM
Yeah you have 3 turns but its not preemptive so if you're lucky you can have 4.

With Kirin though you can probably OHKO him, although you want to try to drag out the fight as much as possible for the sake of stalling.

I do, since Hera-Is isn't skilled. However, I don't trust my skill in Kirin not to screw it up.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 19, 2014, 03:52:29 AM
strangely tempted to roll the rare golems and knights machine once for the hell of it

i do have plenty of stones...

edit: well i only have to wait 8 minutes for that to be a bad idea :v

Edit Edit: Rolo'd. I got a genie, which i already had two of. :v GO FOR THAT MAX AWAKENING
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 04:21:37 AM
Quote from: Hercules dungeon
Gigantes Great
Great Lariat: preemptive 17111 dmg
HP >=50%
Great Press: decrease hp 99%, 30% chance to use
Great Chop: 6782 dmg and chnge 1 color to light orbs, 40% chance to use
Greeeeeeeeeat: Do nothing
HP<50%
Super Final Big Bang Great: Do nothing
Fireeeee: 205332 dmg, multiple hits
Greeeeeeeeeat: Do nothing

so during your fight with him he literally stops attacking you just so he can pose and go

(http://i.imgur.com/ep4pRJY.png)

omg
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 19, 2014, 04:23:44 AM
oh my god that parvati

oh my god

also SUPER FINAL BIG BANG GREAT
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 04:27:14 AM
also SUPER FINAL BIG BANG GREAT
when he was young he was probably Super High-School Level GREAT
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 19, 2014, 04:55:22 AM
....I'm going to have enough stamina for twinlits soon oh god :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 19, 2014, 05:07:55 AM
strangely tempted to roll the rare golems and knights machine once for the hell of it

i do have plenty of stones...

edit: well i only have to wait 8 minutes for that to be a bad idea :v

Edit Edit: Rolo'd. I got a genie, which i already had two of. :v GO FOR THAT MAX AWAKENING

Just because I was bored:

(http://puu.sh/6q3uQ.jpg)

golem and knight machine indeed
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 19, 2014, 05:40:55 AM
it's time

brb losing all 19 stones

Edit: i didn't lose one because my opening fucking board did not have 4 colors for me to combo with

so i could not destroy any mythlits
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 19, 2014, 09:11:45 AM
kiiiiind of want to try for athena?

Like it all seems pretty possible if I were to try:

Nebradisk (I don't have odin rofl, but being able to switch with Lucifer after Gigas would be good)
Lucifer
Vritra or Keeper of Rainbow
Drawn Joker or Thanatos (to keep Ghostring in)
Ghostring (to take out Cu Chulainn) or Thanatos (to absorb Athena's attacks)
Amaterasu Ohkami for healing to max health ASAP

There only seems to be one major threat and that's Athena's Starburst, which will destroy me no matter what, even if I pop Keeper of Rainbow. Thanatos would be useful there, but that would only give me 5 turns of safety when I would need much more to be able to destroy her. Athena starts using Starburst at <15% HP, and it would take two Luci blasts to take her out from there, so that would be 35 turns of waiting. Which will mean stones no matter what (but honestly even if I use 5 stones here it's a better reward than putting it into the golem and knight machine).

If Cu Chulainn can be poisoned, he's absolutely no threat and can be eliminated on the first turn, so I don't have to worry about his multihit.
Siegfried doesn't have any multihits but if Nebradisk can absorb his attacks and Amaterasu/Drawn Joker can provide enough healing in two turns to get me to max, it's just a stallfest from there.
Even Athena's normal multihit won't be too much of a problem if I can manage 12000 HP somehow... I think.
It's just that one last move that perplexes me.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: PX on January 19, 2014, 09:48:23 AM
I, uh... got myself an Archangel Lucifer

363,887,275
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Bio on January 19, 2014, 09:52:03 AM
Everyone with their Lucifers and I'm just sitting here holding a billion Egyptian gods which appear even when it's never their godfest.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 19, 2014, 03:44:47 PM
But egyptian gods are good too!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 19, 2014, 03:56:07 PM
kiiiiind of want to try for athena?

Like it all seems pretty possible if I were to try:

Nebradisk (I don't have odin rofl, but being able to switch with Lucifer after Gigas would be good)
Lucifer
Vritra or Keeper of Rainbow
Drawn Joker or Thanatos (to keep Ghostring in)
Ghostring (to take out Cu Chulainn) or Thanatos (to absorb Athena's attacks)
Amaterasu Ohkami for healing to max health ASAP

There only seems to be one major threat and that's Athena's Starburst, which will destroy me no matter what, even if I pop Keeper of Rainbow. Thanatos would be useful there, but that would only give me 5 turns of safety when I would need much more to be able to destroy her. Athena starts using Starburst at <15% HP, and it would take two Luci blasts to take her out from there, so that would be 35 turns of waiting. Which will mean stones no matter what (but honestly even if I use 5 stones here it's a better reward than putting it into the golem and knight machine).

If Cu Chulainn can be poisoned, he's absolutely no threat and can be eliminated on the first turn, so I don't have to worry about his multihit.
Siegfried doesn't have any multihits but if Nebradisk can absorb his attacks and Amaterasu/Drawn Joker can provide enough healing in two turns to get me to max, it's just a stallfest from there.
Even Athena's normal multihit won't be too much of a problem if I can manage 12000 HP somehow... I think.
It's just that one last move that perplexes me.

Any thoughts?

I'm curious as to how you'll down Gigas before he attacks; I know I can't with what I have. Like, every team on PDX that involves Lucifer in some way says "spend x stones on floor 1".

Like, looking at your padherder I'd suggest either Suzaku or U&Y as your leader if they were a bit higher leveled, with other subs of decent strength as well. Only leader I have in that vein is Ame no Uzume and I don't have a lot of fire mons, so I'm probably skipping Athena this time around, myself.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 19, 2014, 04:19:01 PM
I'm such a bad. It took me 5 stones to down Athena descended with Kirin.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 04:29:16 PM
fuck i died during mechdragon legend because i thought i could stall during a fire demon but then WATER BIND 20K ATTACK DED

THIS WOULDNT OF HAPPENED THOUGH IF GUNGHO NA WOULD JUST GIVE US PATCH 6.3 ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

waste of 50 stam >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 19, 2014, 04:34:48 PM
My favorite team comp ever on PDX (aside from Departure Tower's 6x Kagu build) is for Athena and starts as follows:

"If you have 8 stones, it is very easy. (Neptune is not required) 1st round - use 8 stones-"
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 19, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
fuck i died during mechdragon legend because i thought i could stall during a fire demon but then WATER BIND 20K ATTACK DED

THIS WOULDNT OF HAPPENED THOUGH IF GUNGHO NA WOULD JUST GIVE US PATCH 6.3 ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

waste of 50 stam >_>

How would you have been saved?


Btw, why isn't Valkyrie God-type. Can she be god-type? Gungho pls. Her dungeon is called The Goddess descended. Stop with the false Advertising.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
How would you have been saved?


Btw, why isn't Valkyrie God-type. Can she be god-type? Gungho pls. Her dungeon is called The Goddess descended. Stop with the false Advertising.
because W/L Isis has bind resist and her active cleans binds

(http://i.imgur.com/2B6943n.png)
batman rem more like catwoman rem
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 19, 2014, 05:52:27 PM
About athena, yeah, gigas is going to be a stone eating problem. Also, thanatos will not help you with athena's starburst because by that time she's green not light.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 19, 2014, 07:08:33 PM
What about a resolve build for Gigas? If you can get healed up adequately it shouldn't be a problem, right? :p

Anyway I've decided I'm not gonna go for it. Nowhere near ready yet. I do wanna set my sights on a Hera descend though. Having a grav-user will be very useful.

EDIT: Did a rare egg pull anyway. Got a mandrake. I already have an Alraune :persona:

couldn't it have at least been a siren :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 19, 2014, 07:13:52 PM
Haven't posted in here for a while...
So I have an Amaterasu and Kirin now. And a Valkyrie.
At this point, the notable things I have are
Byakko
Kirin
Amaterasu
Gigas
Valkyrie
Vampire Lord
EotS Siren
Succubus
SDB Angelion
Gryps Rider (lol)
ADK
Verche
Dark Dragon Knight
Mechadragon Valhalla (lol)
Shaitan
Undine
Water Mech Warrior Midgard (I evolved this one from the Tuesday Dungeon, thank god)

and still not a single Echidna. =/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 19, 2014, 07:52:30 PM
Gryps Rider (lol)
Gryps Rider is the actually useful one though :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 19, 2014, 08:05:28 PM
Gryps Rider is actually useful one though :V
Especially if one has D. Metatron, right?  *trying to recall anyone who would be useful to her for when I have the cost to effectively use her and good Attackers*
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 19, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
What about a resolve build for Gigas? If you can get healed up adequately it shouldn't be a problem, right? :p

Anyway I've decided I'm not gonna go for it. Nowhere near ready yet. I do wanna set my sights on a Hera descend though. Having a grav-user will be very useful.

EDIT: Did a rare egg pull anyway. Got a mandrake. I already have an Alraune :persona:

couldn't it have at least been a siren :v

Ive never done athena so im only going by pdx which is incorrect on occasion so if im mistaken blame pdx. But resolve will not help with gigas either cuz his attack is multi-hitting, first hit will bring you down to 1 (or below 70%), and the next 2 will plaster you.

Its unfortunately a dungeon pretty much specifically designed to require a burst team.

Also 3 genies? Gg. Id keep all 3 though in case i get a 4th or 5th. Then a full genie party for perma dark dungeon immunity (or did they require skillups too, i forgot)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 19, 2014, 09:01:21 PM
Twinlits is still dumb. I straight up need dark and fire in my 4 combo and probably a bit more combo to do this with bastet- and then I'm still stoning on dub mythlits...

honestly I should just hold out and use horusu team :v Bastet's not too good besides mass cats.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 20, 2014, 12:16:33 AM
Especially if one has D. Metatron, right?

GRYPS RIDEEEER ;_;

The lengths to which DMeta users will go to get this damn thing is ridiculous. I rolled like 20 times during the Dark carnival (half of those stones were refund stones though), and there were a couple people on the PAD forums that spent $180 (got one) and $300 (didn't get one)

I have Dragon Rider, but it's not the same. It's honestly not absolutely critical to my team though since I have most all the other pieces (D/D Bats, Dragon Rider, King Flamie, D/L Yomi, Byakko) etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2014, 12:26:44 AM
mechdragon get

i wish the chaser rate was higher though, cause i could really use one for legendary conditionals

but i hear the drop rate for chasers is higher in the newer pirate dragon dungeons so maybe i should just wait
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 20, 2014, 03:18:25 AM
I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I really need to just sit down and force myself to develop UmiYama because x25 is nothing to take lightly and seems to be the key to descends and such soooooooo yeah. So right now my currently planned team is (with provided cost, just assume lower forms for now aside from Venus and Vampire who are already fully evolved)

UmiYama
Love Deity Chaos Venus (light/dark coverage and can set up combos with Change the World)
Verche/Drops (light coverage as well as light orb conversion) OR Susanoo for grass coverage and stalling
Dark Liege, Vampire Duke (hearts to dark, also good dark/water coverage with good stats)
Echidna or Susanoo for stalling
UmiYama friend

It should work, right?

...right?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 20, 2014, 03:52:36 AM
New rule: no more farming higher level dungeons that require some degree of alertness when sick.  Managed to wipe twice in Ocean of Heaven because I forgot to turn on King Shynee for Neptune yaaaaaay (no not yay)
But hot damn, having a second Valk is pretty sweet for farming that place, double so when yours is fully skilled aww yeah.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 20, 2014, 04:05:08 AM
I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I really need to just sit down and force myself to develop UmiYama because x25 is nothing to take lightly and seems to be the key to descends and such soooooooo yeah. So right now my currently planned team is (with provided cost, just assume lower forms for now aside from Venus and Vampire who are already fully evolved)

UmiYama
Love Deity Chaos Venus (light/dark coverage and can set up combos with Change the World)
Verche/Drops (light coverage as well as light orb conversion) OR Susanoo for grass coverage and stalling
Dark Liege, Vampire Duke (hearts to dark, also good dark/water coverage with good stats)
Echidna or Susanoo for stalling
UmiYama friend

It should work, right?

...right?

Seems like a good framework, from there you'd just be tailoring it to what particular descend you'd be tackling at the time. I'd look at designing a team specifically for the next descends you intend on trying.

New rule: no more farming higher level dungeons that require some degree of alertness when sick.  Managed to wipe twice in Ocean of Heaven because I forgot to turn on King Shynee for Neptune yaaaaaay (no not yay)
But hot damn, having a second Valk is pretty sweet for farming that place, double so when yours is fully skilled aww yeah.

So you have two fully skilled Valks now? Pretty nice :3  I managed to bag a second Valk from the latest Goddess Descended but its not skilled up in the least.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 20, 2014, 04:19:41 AM
Seems like a good framework, from there you'd just be tailoring it to what particular descend you'd be tackling at the time. I'd look at designing a team specifically for the next descends you intend on trying.

Hera. I definitely think the next step for me in this game is to obtain some team members that can use gravity, so!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 20, 2014, 04:43:17 AM
Hera. I definitely think the next step for me in this game is to obtain some team members that can use gravity, so!

That should be much easier to accomplish than nabbing an athena!
Probably more beneficial to you too since athena is a difficult god to utilize when your teamsize cap is still a limiting factor. Ordinary hera is fortunately a relatively affordable descend god.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 20, 2014, 05:02:32 AM
So you have two fully skilled Valks now? Pretty nice :3  I managed to bag a second Valk from the latest Goddess Descended but its not skilled up in the least.
Well by have I mean "use one of the 30 Valks on my friends list as a buddy with my Metatron + one in my own team" because hahaha nooooo way I am doing her dungeon any time soon. :V   
A surprising number of them are not skilled up so a Siren -> Valk combo on a 5 turn CD is quite fun and new and exciting territory for me!

....of course, assuming you don't blow the whole run because buttons are hard.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 20, 2014, 05:04:46 AM
yeah I haven't had much luck skilling up my valk, and motivation to try isn't that great because her dungeon is so damn stingy with exp for its stam cost. Every time I do it and see my exp increase I go "that's it?!!? eff".
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 20, 2014, 05:52:09 AM
anddd final twinlit attempt down.

At my current monster levels it does not seem possible to do this with bastet and honestly it seems way too board dependant to use later on.

Bastet is just really really bad for this since you need to rely on a good combo board. I mean fuck I got a five combo and I didn't even take down one of the mythlits.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 20, 2014, 07:18:21 AM
yeah I haven't had much luck skilling up my valk, and motivation to try isn't that great because her dungeon is so damn stingy with exp for its stam cost. Every time I do it and see my exp increase I go "that's it?!!? eff".

Skilling up Valk via Goddess Descended sounds like an absolute nightmare. I'll wait for Poring again tyvm. Though who knows when we'll get a 2x drop rate again on that dungeon, if ever.

It's ok though because I think if I run a healer team it'll be Bastet healer with Bastet, Valk, Siren, Echidna, Venus/King Shynee or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 20, 2014, 07:24:36 AM
Skilling up Valk via Goddess Descended sounds like an absolute nightmare. I'll wait for Poring again tyvm. Though who knows when we'll get a 2x drop rate again on that dungeon, if ever.

It's ok though because I think if I run a healer team it'll be Bastet healer with Bastet, Valk, Siren, Echidna, Venus/King Shynee or something.

I might do goddess descended farming just because I only have on skill up left ;v

Though I might want a second valk (just to run all the teams ever)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 20, 2014, 02:07:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/PmKbqKC.jpg

yase
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 20, 2014, 02:39:24 PM
Yeah, we'll get that in like August.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 20, 2014, 03:47:16 PM
Which I'm ok with because LOOK AT THIS TIGER AHHHHH
(http://i.imgur.com/tuDUX5k.jpg?1)
who's going to need me to survive Twinlits to acquire and this gives me time to level up and do so :colbert:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 20, 2014, 04:12:49 PM
siiiigh why did I have to get Vritra when I could have got Parvati or Lakshmi :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 20, 2014, 04:28:50 PM
Which I'm ok with because LOOK AT THIS TIGER AHHHHH
(http://i.imgur.com/tuDUX5k.jpg?1)
who's going to need me to survive Twinlits to acquire and this gives me time to level up and do so :colbert:

Well, to be fair she's not confirmed twinlits.

Though theres good reason to hope so because jfc those two kinda need it.

I just hope they start adding devilit evos at some point because jesus angelits are overwhelmingly the better drop

siiiigh why did I have to get Vritra when I could have got Parvati or Lakshmi :(

Well you could've gotten shiva who'd actually have -no- use because you already have droidragon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
i wish there was a way to extract +eggs from my useless but max awaken/skilled siren to give to Isis so she can have max RV already :<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 20, 2014, 04:52:14 PM
At least shiva is getting an ult evo, maybe he'll be worth using again
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 20, 2014, 04:57:03 PM
Yeah, i think id rather have a shiva over a vrita too. Droids stats arent great and having 2 diff colours to null defense is nice.
But damn... Dose indian girls are adorable, second only to upgraded suzaku. I hope if and when she gets an ultimate too they dont screw something up
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2014, 05:05:33 PM
I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I really need to just sit down and force myself to develop UmiYama because x25 is nothing to take lightly and seems to be the key to descends and such soooooooo yeah. So right now my currently planned team is (with provided cost, just assume lower forms for now aside from Venus and Vampire who are already fully evolved)

UmiYama
Love Deity Chaos Venus (light/dark coverage and can set up combos with Change the World)
Verche/Drops (light coverage as well as light orb conversion) OR Susanoo for grass coverage and stalling
Dark Liege, Vampire Duke (hearts to dark, also good dark/water coverage with good stats)
Echidna or Susanoo for stalling
UmiYama friend

It should work, right?

...right?
With U&Y + Chaos Venus, you already have all 4 necessary colors and don't have to worry about coverage anymore.

Then since U&Y can make water and earth orbs, having Vamp and Drops will help make sure you always have the right orbs. Verche would have been nice if it weren't for the fact he messes you up by killing dark orbs.

Final slot Ecchi cause she's the best. Although if you have a max skilled susanoo and an unskilled ecchi then might as well susanoo


on the other hand U&Y's active is typically enough as long as you make sure you have at least 3 dark and 3 light before activating it, so you could run susanoo over drops for better stats
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 20, 2014, 05:11:15 PM
At least shiva is getting an ult evo, maybe he'll be worth using again

He has pretty nice stats as is actually! He's straight up still better than droid, and a nice fire sub anyway.

If matsy got him though she'd already have a droidragon with more invested thou so yeah :v

But yeah shiva ulti is probably gonna make him something very nice if it goes well.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 20, 2014, 05:32:29 PM
Oh yeah for anyone who wants a Siren

Ice Mechdragon Expert has Siren that can drop on floor 5

For some reason she appears in expert only

The drop rate is probably really low but on x2 drop rates it may be worth it to grind.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 20, 2014, 07:26:53 PM
Oh yeah for anyone who wants a Siren

Ice Mechdragon Expert has Siren that can drop on floor 5

For some reason she appears in expert only

The drop rate is probably really low but on x2 drop rates it may be worth it to grind.

The chimeras are for people who want to skill their starter dragons :V

On that note, why is almost everything I want to dump xp in to Light. Come back super light kings...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 20, 2014, 07:57:31 PM
On that note, why is almost everything I want to dump xp in to Light. Come back super light kings...

Not likely to happen to soon.

Why is light so hard to level up? Dark is the better special snowflake color by far...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 20, 2014, 11:40:23 PM
With U&Y + Chaos Venus, you already have all 4 necessary colors and don't have to worry about coverage anymore.

Then since U&Y can make water and earth orbs, having Vamp and Drops will help make sure you always have the right orbs. Verche would have been nice if it weren't for the fact he messes you up by killing dark orbs.

Final slot Ecchi cause she's the best. Although if you have a max skilled susanoo and an unskilled ecchi then might as well susanoo


on the other hand U&Y's active is typically enough as long as you make sure you have at least 3 dark and 3 light before activating it, so you could run susanoo over drops for better stats

My susanoo is not max skilled or even max leveled by any means, so Echidna is by far the better option, I think. Maybe. At the very least she can prevent turns from happening, while Susanoo will just cut damage in half for a while, and this is kiiiiind of a squishy team, so.

Oh yeah for anyone who wants a Siren

Ice Mechdragon Expert has Siren that can drop on floor 5

For some reason she appears in expert only

The drop rate is probably really low but on x2 drop rates it may be worth it to grind.

May as well! Whenever the x2 rates begin, anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 12:20:59 AM
Quote
Don't feed all those duplicate Mechdragons away just yet!

https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status...7225363457

You may be able to gattai all 5 mechdragons together into one super dragon.

wait what

welp i hope you dont need two of the red mechdragon... (like how you need two porings for mastering)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2014, 12:28:16 AM
wait what

welp i hope you dont need two of the red mechdragon... (like how you need two porings for mastering)

Well that's a dick move, gungho. I wanted to keep this betelgeuse too.

Like...seriously...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 21, 2014, 01:18:46 AM
Lets just hope that we'll see mechdragons roll around again in a far more timely fashion than it took for THIS time.
I dunno why, but i really want a good dragon team but aside from leads being weak, the good dragons cost way too much still... But one day Ill have an all 50+cost dragon team! One day!!!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 01:29:24 AM
Since ADK is green you could probably have a half decent mono green dragon team with something like:

Zeal, Draggie, Green Mech, Green Sonia, Green Fruit

100% +green orbs (well a bit overboard with an ally Zeal but w/e), 3 green att enhance, 5 skill boosts

On bosses pop Sonia + Mech + Draggie for a nice big burst

RCV is pretty low so Fruit dragon helps a lot
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 21, 2014, 01:37:00 AM
RCV is pretty low so Fruit dragon helps a lot

Or if you have green sonia, run her/zeal instead of zeal/zeal

Really helps a lot with the rcv issue, which I think is the point
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 01:48:21 AM
Man yeah Sonia pretty much has everything she needs by herself might as well make a team of just her

Green Sonia, Green Sonia, Green Sonia, Green Mech, Draggie, Friend Green Sonia

Still 100% +orbs, 4 green att enhance, and 9! skill boosts. Burst combo hits even harder because all dat Sonia attack. Also burst only takes 6 turns to charge if everyone is MAX skilled

Best dragon team ever
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 21, 2014, 01:55:54 AM
Man yeah Sonia pretty much has everything she needs by herself might as well make a team of just her

Green Sonia, Green Sonia, Green Sonia, Green Mech, Draggie, Friend Green Sonia

Still 100% +orbs, 4 green att enhance, and 9! skill boosts. Burst combo hits even harder because all dat Sonia attack. Also burst only takes 6 turns to charge if everyone is MAX skilled

Best dragon team ever

My biggest issue with dragons is that they don't have a heartbreaker. Most of the time, I'd rather just run a balanced team.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 01:59:09 AM
My biggest issue with dragons is that they don't have a heartbreaker. Most of the time, I'd rather just run a balanced team.
actually there is one (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=379) :V

two in fact (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=385) (although the first one is green)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 21, 2014, 02:02:19 AM
actually there is one (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=379) :V

two in fact (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=385) (although the first one is green)

No one cares about those though :( Even if I did, they're not something you can tell someone to get.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 02:04:34 AM
same goes for green sonia :V

a more regular dragon team would probably be more like Zeal, Green Mech, Draggie, Voice, Dark Mech, Zeal


maybe if Red/Light Echidna ends up being Dragon instead of Attacker then things might get interesting
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 21, 2014, 02:05:51 AM
i have a dino rider :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 21, 2014, 02:09:11 AM
same goes for green sonia :V

a more regular dragon team would probably be more like Zeal, Green Mech, Draggie, Voice, Dark Mech, Zeal

I think they'd want to be mono-color though. I'd probably replace Voice and the Dark Mech with Graviton and maybe the green Pirate dragon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 02:13:04 AM
Oh right other dragons are getting eventual (gunghoooo) skill buffs too

Zeal, Draggie, Green Mech, Green Ripper, Green Legendary/Starter

Ripper and Zeal orb change, Mech enhance, Draggie boost for a huge boost.

Legendary/Starter gives a smaller x1.3 boost for regular beatdown. Or just use Ecchi in the last slot instead.

I think they'd want to be mono-color though. I'd probably replace Voice and the Dark Mech with Graviton and maybe the green Pirate dragon.
or yeah the pirate dragon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2014, 02:24:02 AM
maybe if Red/Light Echidna ends up being Dragon instead of Attacker then things might get interesting

Oh, did we get confirmation of there being a twinlit ecchi-sama?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 02:34:50 AM
not yet...

man why are there so many things to wait for in this game

not even including the regular waiting game of the stamina system


...i just want ult isis already ;___;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2014, 02:36:56 AM
not yet...

man why are there so many things to wait for in this game

not even including the regular waiting game of the stamina system


...i just want ult isis already ;___;

Food for thought, I think they might not do a twinlit evo for ecchi-sama- they could've given them to angel and alraune to 'improve' them.

If she is I hope to god she ends up the dragon type one or everything makes no sense
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 21, 2014, 03:51:20 AM
ORAORAORAORAORA (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Beahx1lCEAEcNNU.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 04:03:04 AM
>check PF
>update from 6.1 to 6.3 soon
:o :o :o

>KR version
:l :l :l :l :l :l :l
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 21, 2014, 05:12:03 AM
>check PF
>update from 6.1 to 6.3 soon
:o :o :o

>KR version
:l :l :l :l :l :l :l

I figured  that things were slow due to whole new year thing, but things really are taking a while now.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 21, 2014, 06:51:12 AM
Thank god for super kings. Now my UmiYama is maxed and all I need is a forest keeper to evolve it, which I can get tomorrow~
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 21, 2014, 06:56:21 AM
who do I max?

Ult freyr, Horus or Haku?

Or work on evolving Susanoo? Or maybe even maxing Ecchi?

what do
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Bio on January 21, 2014, 09:25:41 AM
Ecchi ult gets fire sub.

That's all.
Post tears here.

src: http://2p.com/3980147_1/Puzzle-and-Dragons-Version-64-Ultimate-Evolution-Details-by-flamedust.htm
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 10:04:52 AM
Meanwhile holy fucking fuck Anubis gets subtypes

x675 mother fucking damage

All hail the one true god


Also d/l Anubis can team up with 3 yomi and flamie for 4 extra seconds of match time, 3 change the worlds, and when you get a perfect 8 comboable board pop flamie for at least x48
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Bio on January 21, 2014, 11:23:41 AM
Puzzle and one turn wipes.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 21, 2014, 03:26:30 PM
So, now that ifreet has a new ultimate, it means gungho IS willing to make new ultimates for creatures that already has some, yay for stinkers?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 03:30:50 PM
All the crap dragons are getting an Ult Evo with a sub of thier base color (since they all already have ults for every other color), x3 attack for 6 connected orbs, and need descend dragon fruits

Meanwhile the Rippers are also getting ult evos, but they only get some stats and 5% extra resist and still need descend dragon fruits >_>

Oh they get a sub attribute too I guess

But so do the crap dragons


Oh hey Ult Echidna get's Hino's leader ability

So now there's really no point in Hino :V :V :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2014, 03:43:20 PM
Eeew. Ecchi-ulti is a major disappointment after the alraune/angel's non-twinlits.

I mean yeah thats a sizable chunk of attack, which is pretty nice, but no HP at all is a major shame.

And looks like confirmed no twinlit ulti. devil siren is dead long live devil siren ;w;

Also the indian gods are using angelits.

...I'm not too impressed, x3 element is straight up worse because no slime. Though maybe it could work with different multipliers... Atleast these two are actually on-element unlike Arcane Monarch and super yomi. Otherwise... kind of mediocre? Smiley tiger has a great HP stat and a decent spread though. Lakshimi comes out okay for the recover drop atleast.

oh well they're cute
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 21, 2014, 03:44:03 PM
Its based off attack though, and hino's is great whereas ecchi's is... Well... Not even average i dont think.
That said that leader ability isnt even good for anything other than quickly mopping up trivial (and by trivial, i dont mean easily doable, i mean even easier) content imo.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 03:45:03 PM
If anything, the Ecchi Ult is a buff to Horus since it just means even harder hitting red attacks

Its based off attack though, and hino's is great whereas ecchi's is... Well... Not even average i dont think.
That said that leader ability isnt even good for anything other than quickly mopping up trivial (and by trivial, i dont mean easily doable, i mean even easier) content imo.
except she's getting 400 attack with her ult which puts her above average
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 21, 2014, 04:23:33 PM
Yeah i didnt see the stats below. Tbh i would have liked 1000 hp over 400 atk but what can you do. Its still fairly sizeable i guess, and she's cuter now too!

Kinda sad though that those ultimates for the indian gods are either the awful 1.5x or a way inferior version of that red jpn2.0 goddess girl. Still want em though since they are cuter than sin.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 21, 2014, 04:58:08 PM
Eeew. Ecchi-ulti is a major disappointment after the alraune/angel's non-twinlits.

I mean yeah thats a sizable chunk of attack, which is pretty nice, but no HP at all is a major shame.

And looks like confirmed no twinlit ulti. devil siren is dead long live devil siren ;w;


Echidna's getting a second ult evolution. They just didn't get the time to finish it. Same with Shiva.


Yeah i didnt see the stats below. Tbh i would have liked 1000 hp over 400 atk but what can you do. Its still fairly sizeable i guess, and she's cuter now too!

Kinda sad though that those ultimates for the indian gods are either the awful 1.5x or a way inferior version of that red jpn2.0 goddess girl. Still want em though since they are cuter than sin.

But they don't have to worry about being full health, and Parvati actually has a skill.

EDIT: Just noticed Lakshmi gets balanced. I wonder if I can somehow make a blue balance team...

Double EDIT: Too much fun blue stuff is Physical. No Woodsie for me. I want a Kamui skill-up dungeon though. He's the only one without one.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2014, 05:50:16 PM
Echidna's getting a second ult evolution. They just didn't get the time to finish it. Same with Shiva.


But they don't have to worry about being full health, and Parvati actually has a skill.

EDIT: Just noticed Lakshmi gets balanced. I wonder if I can somehow make a blue balance team...

Double EDIT: Too much fun blue stuff is Physical. No Woodsie for me. I want a Kamui skill-up dungeon though. He's the only one without one.

Source plz. I don't really see why they wouldn't aim to release both at once and delay red/red's release.

Also yeah the indian god's subtypes are useless. off-color for the slimes and little good in their type.

Also it's irregardless because seriously what are you gonna do try and use norse for burst lol

Edit: oh also they reworked magic draining light by making it stronger (Not sure how much by) and have two less turns

somehow i don't think that's going to help it

ALSO RESIST AWAKENING BUFFED OH SNAP

they nerfed heroic too lol kinda unneeded
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 06:10:54 PM
its not really a nerf cause ircc they never changed their leader skills from 8 orbs at all until now

they probably didnt include 2.5x attack so that they dont obsolete the crap dragons
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 21, 2014, 06:21:14 PM
FYI: I cemented the four teams that i'll be using in the foreseeable future from here on out: Healer Bastet, DMeta, Byakko, and Kirin. If you use any of these or Valk (for Bastet + Valk goodness) please send me an invite. ^^

Man, I was really hoping that Lakshmi would be something ridiculous like x2/x2/x2 or *something* that would give me the smallest excuse to use her.. The female indian gods' cuteness, it's too much. Time to spam the egg machine on an Indian godfest for a Parvati.

I'm not incredibly surprised that Ecchi has a terrible ulti. Do they really want to give people an excuse to use her *more* than they already do?

Also it's irregardless because seriously what are you gonna do try and use norse for burst lol

Norse burst works quite well with Byakko at least :3 I'm just happy my Loki gets to live on instead of dying in obscurity in my box.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 06:29:36 PM
FYI: I cemented the four teams that i'll be using in the foreseeable future from here on out: Healer Bastet, DMeta, Byakko, and Kirin. If you use any of these or Valk (for Bastet + Valk goodness) please send me an invite. ^^
>checks nobun's padherder

forget all that, you have the one true god

there can only be one

also do you really have a MAX skilled King Flamie? goddamn :o


i should really get on max skilling my king bubblie but ugh the kingsssss

well at least its not as bad as king shynee :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 21, 2014, 06:45:32 PM

Source plz. I don't really see why they wouldn't aim to release both at once and delay red/red's release.

Also yeah the indian god's subtypes are useless. off-color for the slimes and little good in their type.

Also it's irregardless because seriously what are you gonna do try and use norse for burst lol

Edit: oh also they reworked magic draining light by making it stronger (Not sure how much by) and have two less turns

somehow i don't think that's going to help it

ALSO RESIST AWAKENING BUFFED OH SNAP

they nerfed heroic too lol kinda unneeded

People have been begging for balanced Parvati for God knows how long. As for the echidna thing, someone said it in the puzzle dragon thread. Norse for burst works. It might not be Horus level crazy, but it's still a decent amount.


FYI: I cemented the four teams that i'll be using in the foreseeable future from here on out: Healer Bastet, DMeta, Byakko, and Kirin. If you use any of these or Valk (for Bastet + Valk goodness) please send me an invite. ^^

Man, I was really hoping that Lakshmi would be something ridiculous like x2/x2/x2 or *something* that would give me the smallest excuse to use her.. The female indian gods' cuteness, it's too much. Time to spam the egg machine on an Indian godfest for a Parvati.

I'm not incredibly surprised that Ecchi has a terrible ulti. Do they really want to give people an excuse to use her *more* than they already do?

Norse burst works quite well with Byakko at least :3 I'm just happy my Loki gets to live on instead of dying in obscurity in my box.

x3 is better than I expected tbh, and unlike Vampire and Hera-Ur, she's going to be on color with the rest of her team.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 21, 2014, 06:59:12 PM
also do you really have a MAX skilled King Flamie? goddamn :o

I got really lucky with the skillups. I'm pretty sure I did it in under 12 feeds? Especially the last feed.. 3x skillup on 3 King Flamies :o

x3 is better than I expected tbh, and unlike Vampire and Hera-Ur, she's going to be on color with the rest of her team.

Pfft, who needs on-color? D/L Yomi with all D/L subs gooo :V (too bad finding another D/L Yomi lead is next to impossible)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2014, 08:52:31 PM
People have been begging for balanced Parvati for God knows how long. As for the echidna thing, someone said it in the puzzle dragon thread. Norse for burst works. It might not be Horus level crazy, but it's still a decent amount.

Yeah but it's the worse ulti honestly. W/L's stats are really really nice :v

Also word of mouth is not very trustworthy, honestly it'd be sweet but I'm kinda doubting it since they recognized enough to give her a lackluster (Though still p.good) ulti.

also no norse active is really bad and heavily weighted to continous opposed to burst. It's really not worth slotting and not going to make x3 element worth it so yeah. it's pretty great for other mono because they're continous (and probably on a leader so it's basically free!) but it'd be pretty bad for a burst team because it's too low. i mean i suppose just  because of lack of options you could try it for x13 ghetto badisis burst but because these need twinlits it won't catch on at all.

really the fact these improved forms need twinlits really slaughters their usability.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 21, 2014, 09:04:59 PM
Yeah but it's the worse ulti honestly. W/L's stats are really really nice :v
She's... stronger than W/L Isis in every way...

Gungho why ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 21, 2014, 09:14:09 PM
She's... stronger than W/L Isis in every way...

Gungho why ;_;

Not by much except in attack.

And Parvarti is a sub so the stats work better for her too!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 12:02:04 AM
so apparently version 6.4 is coming out this week in japan

meanwhile here in 6.1 land...


in other news, turns out tamadra have hearts on their butts (http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/130913_comic.html)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 22, 2014, 12:16:43 AM
so apparently version 6.4 is coming out this week in japan

meanwhile here in 6.1 land...

well the events ending so maybe they'll stop being lazy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 22, 2014, 02:07:03 AM
Nouuu.
I was like "somg jewel dragon chance at pal eggs almost over! Better roll!"
*opens egg menu*
*evidently picked rare instead of pal without realizing*
"Gee, i thought pal dragons werent gold, maybe cuz jewel dragon event? Also, is t it supposed to let me roll more than one at a time? Maybe not cuz i dont even have 10 that i need to do one at a time"
*pulls*
"OH FUU I FORGOT ABOUT RARE EGGS!" (In my world they only exist during godfest) "nooooo!"
*spits out a gold egg*
!!!! "Yesyesyes! Hopefully a cute loli god or suzaku or odin or something!"
*dragon rider*
"Fuuuuuuuuuu!"
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 22, 2014, 02:21:53 AM
Not sure whether to be upset about no invade on my run of Keeper of Green today, or happy for 2 + Eggs in one run...  I'd love to eventually see a Keeper of Dark, I really would.  I need several as it is.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 02:23:35 AM
Nouuu.
I was like "somg jewel dragon chance at pal eggs almost over! Better roll!"
*opens egg menu*
*evidently picked rare instead of pal without realizing*
"Gee, i thought pal dragons werent gold, maybe cuz jewel dragon event? Also, is t it supposed to let me roll more than one at a time? Maybe not cuz i dont even have 10 that i need to do one at a time"
*pulls*
"OH FUU I FORGOT ABOUT RARE EGGS!" (In my world they only exist during godfest) "nooooo!"
*spits out a gold egg*
!!!! "Yesyesyes! Hopefully a cute loli god or suzaku or odin or something!"
*dragon rider*
"Fuuuuuuuuuu!"
man i did that too once when the healer girl rem was up

i decided to click on it for fun and then found out that once i was at the dragon screen there is no going back and the pull actually happens as soon as you hit okay in the previous screen

luckily it was on my alt account so w/e
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 22, 2014, 02:25:11 AM
man i did that too once when the healer girl rem was up

i decided to click on it for fun and then found out that once i was at the dragon screen there is no going back and the pull actually happens as soon as you hit okay in the previous screen

luckily it was on my alt account so w/e
I think I did something like this once, though luckily I think when I did it it was just the PAL machine...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 02:27:36 AM
Not sure whether to be upset about no invade on my run of Keeper of Green today, or happy for 2 + Eggs in one run...  I'd love to eventually see a Keeper of Dark, I really would.  I need several as it is.
I always run Master for light/dark keepers because at least you are guaranteed one of them each run, and the stamina cost is about the same
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 22, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
I always run Master for light/dark keepers because at least you are guaranteed one of them each run, and the stamina cost is about the same
Ah, right.  I was doing Green because I need a few for somewhat soon to be evolvables for my Wood team.  Only short Mystic Masks at this point for some(Why the heck does Highlander take TWO!?), which I've never had drop for me before.  Hopefully tomorrow will be more kind to me.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 02:39:49 AM
mystic mask rates in the wednesday dungeon are just awful

farming Ocean of Heaven on weekends is a lot better because you can also get plenty of +eggs at the same time
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 22, 2014, 02:48:00 AM
mystic mask rates in the wednesday dungeon are just awful

farming Ocean of Heaven on weekends is a lot better because you can also get plenty of +eggs at the same time
How far after Hyperion Lava Flow is that?  On the last stage of HLF but haven't tried it again recently since I don't have a leveled up armorbreaker to add to any team yet, and haven't gotten a high enough burst to punch through the like 69k Def or whatever it was the boss has.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 22, 2014, 02:57:25 AM
HLF, Oceanus Falls, Kronos Forest, Rhea Themis Temple, Clayus Prison, Tower to the Sky, Ocean of Heaven

In other news,
(http://i.imgur.com/1EXVewx.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 03:04:51 AM
HLF, Oceanus Falls, Kronos Forest, Rhea Themis Temple, Clayus Prison, Tower to the Sky, Ocean of Heaven

In other news,
(http://i.imgur.com/1EXVewx.jpg)
wow i ran intermediate and got a blue skydragon drop

maybe the drop rates are the same for all difficulties
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 22, 2014, 04:05:00 AM
wow i ran intermediate and got a blue skydragon drop

maybe the drop rates are the same for all difficulties

they're pretty low on legend because they're all ult'd

Edit: Random thought- x3 fire might be legit because Goemon. I don't know how many teams goemon can already work with that would be better thou?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 22, 2014, 08:15:29 AM
I ran Sapphire/Emerald dragons 20 times today, and Metal Dragons 13 times.

6 Tama sightings, 1 drop.

:fail: Hope I have better luck tama-rrow.


Edit: 6.3 on Friday! Suikama finally gets his busty Isis~
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 22, 2014, 01:06:02 PM
Edit: 6.3 on Friday! Suikama finally gets his busty Isis~

meanwhile I'd give anything for a pandora gungho pls have mercy on me
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 04:43:59 PM
finally ty gungho ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 22, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
meanwhile I'd give anything for a pandora gungho pls have mercy on me

They'll prolly take a few more months on those (good because i might want to nab one for the hell of it.  Though I think the only one I could maybe pull off even with my collection is fire.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 08:17:46 PM
They'll prolly take a few more months on those (good because i might want to nab one for the hell of it.  Though I think the only one I could maybe pull off even with my collection is fire.)
Since we just had an event, it will be around 2 weeks until the next one, but the new gods usually don't show up into the second godfest after a new patch so they probably will be out in around a month

Also they're adding Challenge mode which seems interesting. You get to run though all normals and technicals again but this time you only pick your own leader and all subs are picked from your friends list. You get everyone available just like how you can choose everyone for endless corridors regardless of when they last logged in. BUT you don't get any leader skills except for your own.

Of course the most interesting part is you get stones for each dungeon you can clear, which means you can immediately get over 30 stones easily since the first few dungeons are trivially easy. After that though things get interesting since you only get one leader to work with. Lucifer would still probably work well because you still have all your gravities and nukes. Burst teams might be trickier since you lose out on a lot of damage AND you need to somehow get a friend to lend you Echidna.

I have no idea how the hell you're supposed to beat Zaerog or Koryu with just one leader though...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 22, 2014, 08:23:16 PM
Since we just had an event, it will be around 2 weeks until the next one, but the new gods usually don't show up into the second godfest after a new patch so they probably will be out in around a month

Also they're adding Challenge mode which seems interesting. You get to run though all normals and technicals again but this time you only pick your own leader and all subs are picked from your friends list. You get everyone available just like how you can choose everyone for endless corridors regardless of when they last logged in. BUT you don't get any leader skills except for your own.

Of course the most interesting part is you get stones for each dungeon you can clear, which means you can immediately get over 30 stones easily since the first few dungeons are trivially easy. After that though things get interesting since you only get one leader to work with. Lucifer would still probably work well because you still have all your gravities and nukes. Burst teams might be trickier since you lose out on a lot of damage AND you need to somehow get a friend to lend you Echidna.

I have no idea how the hell you're supposed to beat Zaerog or Koryu with just one leader though...

About what I expected.

Also shit, that sounds pretty rad. And hillarious- FULL LUCIFER TEAM GO I NEED TO MAKE MORE LUCI FRIENDS.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 08:27:11 PM
About what I expected.

Also shit, that sounds pretty rad. And hillarious- FULL LUCIFER TEAM GO I NEED TO MAKE MORE LUCI FRIENDS.
i was literally JUST about to say

since it's all friends list and no cost has to be considered you can just do a 6 Luci team and nuke everything to death no problem

except for the last few dungeons but w/e you'll have gotten over 50 stones at that point

also apparently you still get drops too
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 22, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
i was literally JUST about to say

since it's all friends list and no cost has to be considered you can just do a 6 Luci team and nuke everything to death no problem

except for the last few dungeons but w/e you'll have gotten over 50 stones at that point

also apparently you still get drops too

Hmm, then it's probably gonna take stamina to do challenge mode. Oh well, free stones~

also full luci is actually awful because you'll have like 24k hp only because luci's got only average HP and you're down a multiplier- and you can't really spam morning star without a heart maker,

It's hillarious because your morning stars will blot out the sun but not really great i'd say
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 08:45:36 PM
I was thinking for myself something like Isis, Echidna, Green Sub (probably Odin), Luci, Luci, Luci

x3 Isis is still enough to take out mobs and then on bosses Echidna, Luci, Isis heal, Luci, heal, Luci for a million damage which is enough for anyone until Starlight Sanctuary

Quote
No continues.
Yeah I really have no idea how Koryu or Zaerog can be beat like this

Well maybe Zaerog with some kind of Resolve Skillboost Ogre team that would need like 5 alt accounts to pull off

but Koryu I'm gonna go with impossible

actually forget Koryu, you cant even get past the stone dragons...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 22, 2014, 08:58:38 PM
I was thinking for myself something like Isis, Echidna, Green Sub (probably Odin), Luci, Luci, Luci

x3 Isis is still enough to take out mobs and then on bosses Echidna, Luci, Isis heal, Luci, heal, Luci for a million damage which is enough for anyone until Starlight Sanctuary

oh that works pretty well actually.

I was just straight up thinking just jam all the lucis into your team DO IT NERD
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 22, 2014, 09:16:07 PM
Huh.  I'm definitely ok with a bunch of free stones, even if it'll only amount to a few pulls on the machine by the end.  Of course, it'll be months before we see this Stateside anyway, so I'll hold the excitement til then.

EDIT:  OR is it the US version getting that when we go to 6.3?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 09:22:06 PM
We're getting all this on Friday
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Jq1790 on January 22, 2014, 09:30:18 PM
We're getting all this on Friday
Oh, ok.  Sounds like a pretty good deal then.  Time to play easy dungeons all weekend!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 22, 2014, 09:33:43 PM
Oh, ok.  Sounds like a pretty good deal then.  Time to play easy dungeons all weekend!

Who has time for THAT? I've got prize dragons to earn baby! (it does not help i used the wrong team on my legend attempt earlier oops)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 22, 2014, 09:44:24 PM
I've got rank to grind so I probably won't be checking out the Challenge Mode anytime soonish, but it's nice that there will be a reserve of stones I can pop when I need them. Gotta get to 100 stam ASAP and get more out of my stam refreshes >_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 10:32:20 PM
I'm finally at the point where I have all my main subs MAX leveled, skilled, and awoken or almost so, and all my spare subs decently leveled, so now I think I should really focus on farming +eggs so I can +297 my whole main team and just destroy all descends

It's still really tempting to throw stamina at jewel dragons though for more exp and tamadra but arggg don't really need them anymore.... except for skilling up king bubblie which is going to be painful...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 22, 2014, 10:40:07 PM
I'm finally at the point where I have all my main subs MAX leveled, skilled, and awoken or almost so, and all my spare subs decently leveled, so now I think I should really focus on farming +eggs so I can +297 my whole main team and just destroy all descends

It's still really tempting to throw stamina at jewel dragons though for more exp and tamadra but arggg don't really need them anymore.... except for skilling up king bubblie which is going to be painful...

Heh.

Heh.

./stares at own monster box
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 10:49:38 PM
I pretty much spend the last months farming mostly pendgra in order to get Hera-Is, Valk, Tengu, Joker, and a bunch of other random subs like Bane all evolved and up to decent levels, as well as MAX leveling my entire conditional team and Siegfried.

I barely got any +eggs in all that time so it's probably time for me to change gears even though I'm so used to constantly grabbing pengdra materials at this point


Also it's kinda annoying how Echidna and Chu are level 90 but still need 1 million exp to MAX them. Also Hera-Is is level 85 but needs 2 million. Might as well just wait for super kings...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 22, 2014, 10:56:53 PM
It's still really tempting to throw stamina at jewel dragons though for more exp and tamadra but arggg don't really need them anymore.... except for skilling up king bubblie which is going to be painful...

Just wait until events and 2x kings to do your King Bubblie skilling. It only took me one event to max mine. That's way more efficient than wasting stam when off of events.

I'm not looking forward to the nightmare of +297ing so many monsters, especially since my resources are sorta divided across four teams (though i'll focus on DMeta first most likely). When all I do in a day is farm T5 dungeons that are 1.5x drops, I rank up about once ever five hours. Outside of Ocean of Heaven, my +egg intake seems to be 3-4 per day.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Ghaleon on January 22, 2014, 11:04:09 PM
I dont think ill ever +297 one monster, let alone a full group.

That said that isis fanart is amazing! You didnt draw i yourself did you?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 22, 2014, 11:06:07 PM
That said that isis fanart is amazing! You didnt draw i yourself did you?

If so he better draw me a super horusu one. We don't match anymore ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 11:19:01 PM
I dont think ill ever +297 one monster, let alone a full group.

That said that isis fanart is amazing! You didnt draw i yourself did you?
lol i wish (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=40503752)

and it's hard to find horus art because he's not a cute girl :x


well there's baby horus with mama isis :V (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=40400445)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 22, 2014, 11:51:15 PM
I'm pretty sure people beat up to Zeus and Koryu in challenge mode with Anubis sillyness. Looks like we know what that other Anubis ult is for  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 22, 2014, 11:52:44 PM
Man even with x15 it wouldn't be easy so that's pretty nuts :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 23, 2014, 12:06:16 AM
Man even with x15 it wouldn't be easy so that's pretty nuts :V



Yeah, I think most of the people who pulled it off had pretty high rank. This was done before he got an ult though. Only people I remember on the team was yomi. Can't remember the rest. Probably some gravaties and Echidna.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 12:17:00 AM
just ran hyperion 7 times

1 +egg :/

although according to the pad forum stat doc, for some reason hyperion's drop rate does seem to be the worst of the T5s
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 12:19:58 AM
just ran hyperion 7 times

1 +egg :/

although according to the pad forum stat doc, for some reason hyperion's drop rate does seem to be the worst of the T5s

i should run through normals again at some point

maybe soon because land dragon seems like it might be slightly annoying to do in practice

(inb4burst)

edit: wait nevermind this shits ridiculously simple with resist again i think
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 12:27:34 AM
land dragon is super easy cause he just cycles between a bunch of really weak attacks and a single target bind. with burst you just beat him until you feel bored and then pop echidna and finish him off

for luci though you have to watch out for getting unlucky with the bind hitting luci. also after the fourth turn he powers up and starts hitting harder, and finally at low hp he gravities you for 99% every other turn like Cu Chu so you have to heal 10k every two turns (not that bad but careful not to run out of hearts)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 23, 2014, 12:32:08 AM
just ran hyperion 7 times

1 +egg :/

although according to the pad forum stat doc, for some reason hyperion's drop rate does seem to be the worst of the T5s


I seem to recall a ruile saying that if you don't get a + egg in the first few runs wait a few hours before trying again.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 12:36:04 AM
Quote
You have Kushinada so you can just take the free clears through every normal and most technical dungeons with Kushinada/Kushinada/Echidna/Echidna/Echidna/Kushinada.
Oh right well that takes care of Zeus pretty easily

Still dunno about Koryu though cause they hit HARD when low on HP
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 12:37:01 AM
land dragon is super easy cause he just cycles between a bunch of really weak attacks and a single target bind. with burst you just beat him until you feel bored and then pop echidna and finish him off

for luci though you have to watch out for getting unlucky with the bind hitting luci. also after the fourth turn he powers up and starts hitting harder, and finally at low hp he gravities you for 99% every other turn like Cu Chu so you have to heal 10k every two turns (not that bad but careful not to run out of hearts)

yeah the boss himself doesn't intimidate me at all unless he just luckfucks me and continously hits luci (and even then hes so WEAK) and it's just a matter of setting up for a perfect L2 which coincidentally he gives you a nonlethal attack for and assuming you're packing gravs that's not hard as long as you don't get shit tons of skyfalls pushing him too low before you want it

the problem i did not forsee at all however is centaurs because their def is too high to combo through

i'll need to pack a poison to wear them down which is slightly annyoing because i'm already having to run a sub-par heartmaker because no fire

or i could use this lulzy double ceres goemon->Hera-ur build
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: KaiserKnuckle on January 23, 2014, 01:36:49 AM
here's something that edible said something about that anyone thats not triangles ignored (https://www.facebook.com/padpadblog/posts/604607019618002)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 23, 2014, 01:38:22 AM
Uh excuse me I already have a JoJo :colbert:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: KaiserKnuckle on January 23, 2014, 01:49:24 AM
Uh excuse me I already have a JoJo :colbert:

apart from you and edible then  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 02:04:52 AM
Yomi/Venus are already Jojo

their active is literally change ZA WARUDO
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 23, 2014, 02:12:46 AM
Yomi/Venus are already Jojo

their active is literally change ZA WARUDO

(danbooru) WRYYYYYY (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1567572)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 02:47:09 AM
Challenge mode Zaerog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4K_gAvkbVI)

as i expected, exploit dem skill boosts ftw

dat final grind on zaerog himself though oh boy


cant find any vids for stone dragons or koryu
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 03:30:19 AM
Challenge mode Zaerog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4K_gAvkbVI)

as i expected, exploit dem skill boosts ftw

dat final grind on zaerog himself though oh boy


cant find any vids for stone dragons or koryu

./laughing hideously

that tengu skill constantly on active, it is sweet justice on Swapping!!!

Edit: Oh. Descended weekend with a flavor of free PAL Points.

Hera will be rad, though I think I'm still out on Take at the moment (zzz orb converting) and the other two would involve stoning.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 04:02:01 AM
oh boy time to farm Heras for skill ups :derp:

also take on legend is pretty easy even with regular isis
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 04:34:56 AM
oh boy time to farm Heras for skill ups :derp:

also take on legend is pretty easy even with regular isis

but i don't want to burst ;w;

that and my isis is still level 9 and i reallly don't have a concrete team
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 23, 2014, 05:10:34 AM
Damn, I was actually hoping for like a week or two where I could just relax... now I gotta gear up for Hera-Is >_< I just barely killed her with a resist-grind team last time with no drop, now I can consider doing it with one of my burst teams..

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: O4rfish on January 23, 2014, 06:23:23 AM
Now that my  Hera is fully awake, I think I will put all my heras into Herais. Once we get 2x skillups ofc.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 07:25:33 AM
Damn, I was actually hoping for like a week or two where I could just relax... now I gotta gear up for Hera-Is >_< I just barely killed her with a resist-grind team last time with no drop, now I can consider doing it with one of my burst teams..

i was about to say this was probably not a hard dungeon atleast for burst but holy shit everything is on low cooldowns and has around 900k hp

it'll probably be easier than with stall because hera-is is just suffering with stall though honestly

she was not a fun fight even if the rest of the dungeon was kinda easyish
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 23, 2014, 07:41:39 AM
I was at least hoping we'd get Scarlet Snake Princess and an event weekend before seeing Hera-Is again. My Echidna only has one skillup and is on all but my DMeta team (and I even use it on that sometimes)

Bastet has the Green typing advantage, but no green subs. 7cd Angelion and max Valk, but 1 skillup Echidna and 0 Skillup King Shynee.
Byakko has access to gravity but a lower overall multiplier, and stalling might be difficult due to being the lowest RCV of the four teams. Also at my level and number of +eggs I have lowish HP.
DMeta is... tricky. I'd have to stay under 80% HP through wave 5 and 6 or else the entire run is a wipe. Doubt I could use Satan as I'd have no time to charge skills, and I don't think I can kill all the bosses without taking at least my max HP in damage.
Kirin is lolKirin, if I manage to match well it should be fairly simple. Good RCV, passable HP, Echidna delay two maxed heartbreakers + one heartmaker. Could probably take my team into mythical even if I wanted to try it.

Actually, I think I might try it at least once with each of my teams. ^__^ Kirin will probably be the easiest, but the others sound like fun too.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 07:57:50 AM
I was at least hoping we'd get Scarlet Snake Princess and an event weekend before seeing Hera-Is again. My Echidna only has one skillup and is on all but my DMeta team (and I even use it on that sometimes)

Bastet has the Green typing advantage, but no green subs. 7cd Angelion and max Valk, but 1 skillup Echidna and 0 Skillup King Shynee.
Byakko has access to gravity but a lower overall multiplier, and stalling might be difficult due to being the lowest RCV of the four teams. Also at my level and number of +eggs I have lowish HP.
DMeta is... tricky. I'd have to stay under 80% HP through wave 5 and 6 or else the entire run is a wipe. Doubt I could use Satan as I'd have no time to charge skills, and I don't think I can kill all the bosses without taking at least my max HP in damage.
Kirin is lolKirin, if I manage to match well it should be fairly simple. Good RCV, passable HP, Echidna delay two maxed heartbreakers + one heartmaker. Could probably take my team into mythical even if I wanted to try it.

Actually, I think I might try it at least once with each of my teams. ^__^ Kirin will probably be the easiest, but the others sound like fun too.

Max skilled ecchi is great here because Hera-is' opener is 'fuck you go die', so yeaahhh that's gonna be rough on you.

Also I'd actually say Kirin might have a rough time with the first round since she runs the risk of getting flash bound if your opening board isn't spectacular- but well she has the best stats apparently so theres that!

Bastet however would straight up get wrecked as well so uh I miiight want to suggest not trying her.

Nothing else other to say than fighto~
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Nobu on January 23, 2014, 08:08:02 AM
Max skilled ecchi is great here because Hera-is' opener is 'fuck you go die', so yeaahhh that's gonna be rough on you.

Also I'd actually say Kirin might have a rough time with the first round since she runs the risk of getting flash bound if your opening board isn't spectacular- but well she has the best stats apparently so theres that!

Bastet however would straight up get wrecked as well so uh I miiight want to suggest not trying her.

Nothing else other to say than fighto~

Bastet has the advantage of being more resistant to orb trolling, so there's that. There's a good chance of killing the Flash Binder on t1 if I combo high. (Though I can only reliably get 4-5 combos, the rest is mostly luck at this point ;_;) Kirin is more likely to get orb trolled, but then again there's only a 30% chance of getting Flash Bound even then. I'm actually more worried about accidentally killing both of them, but at least they have relatively high HP so the chance of that is low I think.

Ecchi stalling for all teams early on is crucial. None of my teams can survive for more than a single turn against Hera-Is. Since my DMeta and my friend's would be bind-immune, I could still pick off the last of Hera-Is's hp even if she gets a single turn in.

Oh, and King Shynee has no skillups either, making the Bastet run rougher. ;_; Doesn't GungHo want me to use stones? I'd kill for a Gold Dragon Dungeon right about soon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Bio on January 23, 2014, 08:08:18 AM
Guys, how do I make an Anubis team work. Guessing Red Sonia with DD Yomi?

I want to see x225 outside of tri-color
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 08:14:27 AM
Guys, how do I make an Anubis team work. Guessing Red Sonia with DD Yomi?

I want to see x225 outside of tri-color

if you're really desperate- That won't work at all actually because the distribution of color is not always 50% so it's straight luck if you can actually make a ten combo.

you're completely reliant on skyfalls at that point, and getting past x10 is always skyfall reliant

anubis sadly is going to be a gimmick always

edit: oh god i just realized i have super kings and kings i was saving for orochi post. evo

nooo i don't want to feed them to isis ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Yukarin on January 23, 2014, 03:25:25 PM
Fk hera comes back and i still dont have siren. Gdiiiiiiiiii
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 03:28:07 PM
Remember when D/D Lucifer was the shitty one?

Well apparently he's active is being changed to enhanced dark orbs

So that's the fastest orb enhancer in the game (5 turns), plus he already has two skill boosts and 1 dark enhance making him the perfect Red Sonia sub

I'm not sure if he gets cockblocked though if there's no light monster on the field
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 23, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
Remember when D/D Lucifer was the shitty one?

Well apparently he's active is being changed to enhanced dark orbs

So that's the fastest orb enhancer in the game (5 turns), plus he already has two skill boosts and 1 dark enhance making him the perfect Red Sonia sub

I'm not sure if he gets cockblocked though if there's no light monster on the field

He does. Even still, I don't think we have a skill up for him yet, so he'd be at 20 or so turns
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 03:37:35 PM
the eva collab is totally coming soon...

I CAN FEEL IT IN MY BONES

;__;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: hyorinryu on January 23, 2014, 03:45:23 PM
the eva collab is totally coming soon...

I CAN FEEL IT IN MY BONES

;__;

In Japan, sure. Personally, I want the Airou no Bazaar collab more.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 23, 2014, 03:47:08 PM
In Japan, sure. Personally, I want the Airou no Bazaar collab more.

Final Fantasy collab please ;_;

Alternatively, return of ECO so that I can have a second Change the World.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: triangles on January 23, 2014, 03:56:57 PM
Final Fantasy collab please ;_;
I swear if this ever comes I will break my rule and throw money at the game so I can have adorable moogles on my team.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 04:09:44 PM
I swear if this ever comes I will break my rule and throw money at the game so I can have adorable moogles on my team.
the moogles dont even come from the ff collab dungeon or rem though

they have their own puzzdroid/tamadra like solo dungeon :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 04:49:56 PM
now i remember why i dont like farming for +eggs

its cause i never get any
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
Remember when D/D Lucifer was the shitty one?

Well apparently he's active is being changed to enhanced dark orbs

So that's the fastest orb enhancer in the game (5 turns), plus he already has two skill boosts and 1 dark enhance making him the perfect Red Sonia sub

I'm not sure if he gets cockblocked though if there's no light monster on the field

wait what is there a link to this so i can get a better idea of whats supposed to be happening here
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
it's not confirmed so it might be bs but i saw it here (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=33086&pid=313588#pid313588)


praise the one true god (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzW8iDS1GCY)

x675 DAMAGE PRAISE IT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u0TUDsDGHs)

also AnubisxTAMADRA leader combo yes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TbUWZVFkYA)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 10:15:02 PM
it's not confirmed so it might be bs but i saw it here (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=33086&pid=313588#pid313588)

that's a baffling change but it doesn't really make him good so much as make him actually useful now

neat i have a dark orb enhancer now it's a shame no good teams exist to use him on lol

Edit: like seriously this just turns him into a dark orb enhancer instead of a situational source of damage

are the other demons becoming this too??

EditEdit: like no seriously why even make a completely superior orb enhance? this is confusing me on so many levels
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 10:26:06 PM
well you still dont get to activate it at all unless there's a light monster on the field so it's use is pretty limited to light bosses
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 10:39:01 PM
well you still dont get to activate it at all unless there's a light monster on the field so it's use is pretty limited to light bosses

according to that guy and his screenshot you can activate it at any point

i'm really trying to gather my opinion on this actually

i'd actually consider slotting him on pandora even if the boost isn't really super reliable because of his skill boosts which really helps with getting orb changes up which a huge boon to her

like dang heroics getting a good buff already
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 10:44:37 PM
Dark typessssss

Also fucking T5 dungeons I ran it all day and got just ONE +egg

This is the third day in a row where I just got one + from an entire full stamina bar of grinding + rank ups

>_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Edible on January 23, 2014, 10:48:40 PM
I got two plus eggs from thursday dungeon today

>_> <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
also man i still need to decide if I want to say screw it to orochi and just charge my isis up for maybe take and land dragon (because seriously poison strats do not sound fun)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 11:26:02 PM
also man i still need to decide if I want to say screw it to orochi and just charge my isis up for maybe take and land dragon (because seriously poison strats do not sound fun)
you could feed orochi and use him on isis' team cause then you get about the same stat boosts anyways

well it depends on what level he is

I got two plus eggs from thursday dungeon today

>_> <_<
honestly its never been this bad before, just for some reason the past few days they just dont seem to be dropping
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
you could feed orochi and use him on isis' team cause then you get about the same stat boosts anyways

well he'd be level 1 after evo :v

isis is level 12
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 23, 2014, 11:45:48 PM
at really low levels you its best to just feed them dungeon trash anyways for like a free 10 levels
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 23, 2014, 11:47:27 PM
at really low levels you its best to just feed them dungeon trash anyways for like a free 10 levels

true true

Edit: also man it is really annoying being at the whim of the board gods, how do you even manage putting up with this suikama lol
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 12:30:51 AM
meanwhile im farming up these king bubblies and tomorrow for heras so they can sit in my box until an event and then be eaten for 0 skill ups yayyyy

HEY CHAORE YOU CAN TOTALLY JOIN ME IN HERA FUN FARMING TIME TOMORROW RIGHTTTT
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 12:33:43 AM
meanwhile im farming up these king bubblies and tomorrow for heras so they can sit in my box until an event and then be eaten for 0 skill ups yayyyy

HEY CHAORE YOU CAN TOTALLY JOIN ME IN HERA FUN FARMING TIME TOMORROW RIGHTTTT

That's the plan! I mean I have like three grav users I need to skill up after all.

Though now that I actually have Hera I tend to mess up on her lol
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 12:38:10 AM
are you going to luci or are you going to MINI SUPER HORISU BURST since he is coming out tomorrow :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 12:40:06 AM
OKAY SO

Hera is coming up tomorrow.

I have five different potential parties. Give me your thoughts.

1.
Gods of Hunt, Umisachi&Yamasachi
White Knight
Keeper of Rainbow
Keeper of Rainbow
Echidna
UmiYama friend

The double RK gives some effective attack and defense and HP capabilities while White Knight at near-max level is comparable to a low-level Baron at a cost I can fit-- whose presence is merely for the sake of destroying Neptune's defenses (though with a burst team, is this really necessary? idk I got this from a PDX suggestion)

2.
Gods of Hunt, Umisachi&Yamasachi
Echidna
Drops
Hellray Harpie Demon OR Susanoo
Love Deity Chaos Venus OR Dark Liege, Vampire Duke
UmiYama friend

This team is more effective than the latter in terms of firepower and comboability, but it's much more dangerous because one mistake and one hit would probably kill me. Susanoo's skill could help here. Drops is merely there to ease combos. I'd make it my Vampire but I don't have enough cost for that. Though I could put him in instead of Venus? In fact, I'll add that. Thoughts? Venus is there mostly for Change the World and opening up the ability to make some really strong combos against Venus/Hades/Hera, and the fact that she can complete the requirements needed for UmiYama's leader skill. But with Vampire and Drops I get much higher chances for working combos and the needed type coverage, too...

3.
Suzaku
Verche
Echidna
Top Droidragon or Susanoo
Burning Phoenix Knight Homura
Suzaku friend

Much easier combos than the latter two AND Echidna can actually play a workable combat role. Verche and Homura can change useless water and dark orbs to useful light and fire orbs and pretty much ensure a x12.25 combo if there are at least three wood orbs on the board. Top Droidragon will make Neptune hilariously simple, especially since even with x12.25 I worry that three strong fire attacks wouldn't amount to much against him. Susanoo, on the other hand, could possibly let me tank a hit?

4.
Seraph of Dawn Lucifer
Keeper of Rainbow
Keeper of Rainbow
Echidna
Dub-Mythlit
Seraph of Dawn Lucifer friend

The almost-complete "oh my god stall is so fucking boring" build. Dub-Mythlit's there simply because I have 2 cost remaining after everyone else is added.  Otherwise it would be Drawn Joker.

5.
Drawn Joker
Keeper of Rainbow
Keeper of Dark
Echidna
Seraph of Dawn Lucifer
Seraph of Dawn Lucifer friend

DJ absorbs a lot of the damage from enemies, but at the cost of less HP and one RK, replaced with a DK. Might be decent?



What seems best to use?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 12:45:50 AM
team 4 wont work unless you can hit 40k HP because of Hades 80k attack (40k after rkeeper tank)

same for team 5 but at least you have resist so you need at least 20533 hp

actually you'd also need a full team of keepers to keep up the defense
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 12:47:46 AM
So stall is out. What about the burst teams?

EDIT: wait, a double Luci blast could take out Hades without much problem. What are you talking about? Even with 1200 defense that would leave him with 3000 HP left after two rounds of 300k damage... But I'd need to have two shots of Lucifer for that, which means I'd have to tank a bunch of rounds with Hades before the second is charged. Hmm.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 12:49:29 AM
suzaku makes me worried about Hera herself because 2.5 million HP is a LOT to burn though with 12.25x

U&Y should theoretically work fine even with junk subs if you can pull off the matches

I'd prefer whatever build give you the most HP because you do want to be able to tank occasional hits from Mobs, Ceres, Minerva, and Hera herself

funny thing about suzaku is the best sub to run her with is zeuses which are even harder to get than hera :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 12:53:36 AM
Well, I think I may roll with UmiYama teams then. Though I may run the high-risk one more because even with the more defensive team I'm pretty sure Hera can still one-shot me. I'm not afraid to spend a few stones though, considering a Hera is MANY times better than a round in the golem and knight machine. Question is, Hellray Harpie Demon or Susanoo, and Dark Liege, Vampire Duke or Love Deity Chaos Venus?

I'm reluctant to trade out HHD because if I pull off a good combo with Venus at his side (I'll pop Drops before I pop UmiYama so I have more light orbs, and then pop Venus for Change the World) I'll be doing a TON of damage to Hera. Susanoo is more defensive, however, and Vampire can give emergency dark orbs just like Drops can give emergency light orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 12:56:04 AM
are you going to luci or are you going to MINI SUPER HORISU BURST since he is coming out tomorrow :V

Prollly going to luci, my horusu team itself is mostly unleveled/evo'd still since i'm kinda slow because i like running special dungeons instead of farming materials etc.

also hera is really easy and i like running luci way more than horusu because the board gods hate me

though unno, I'll see what I can do if i get really really bad heart luck and lazy on hera too much
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 01:01:56 AM
Well, I think I may roll with UmiYama teams then. Though I may run the high-risk one more because even with the more defensive team I'm pretty sure Hera can still one-shot me. I'm not afraid to spend a few stones though, considering a Hera is MANY times better than a round in the golem and knight machine.
But surely you have at least 6177 HP right?trick question because two Rks is already 6k :V Cause then you just pop rainbow keepers and along with Echidna and you get 9 turns to beat her up. Also if you can match well it's possible to kill her in the 4 turns echidna gives you.

And Baron is definitely necessary if you don't have a strong green sub because doing the bare minimum to active U&Y will only have your subs attacking for around 40k which is not enough to break his defense of 72k
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 01:04:06 AM
But surely you have at least 6177 HP right? Cause then you just pop rainbow keepers and along with Echidna and you get 9 turns to beat her up. Also if you can match well it's possible to kill her in the 4 turns echidna gives you.

And Baron is definitely necessary if you don't have a strong green sub because doing the bare minimum to active U&Y will only have your subs attacking for around 40k which is not enough to break his defense of 72k

The only problem with that is that doing combos in that way is going to be a lot more of a luck thing, especially since I'm not THAT great at it yet. And I worry about the first few floors, too. >_o
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 01:06:44 AM
Orb changers really won't help you at all there though because you haven't skilled any of them up (according to your herder) so you won't get access to vamp or drops until turn 11 and by then you have U&Y's active up anyways (man that active is op)

Also you have exactly enough team cost for team 1 lol


Also the first few floors will instantly melt with x25, but if you can't pull it off, what you can do is try to match as much as you can of the same color (black would be best since that's your strongest att with the two keepers. If you do that then even with x1 attack it's possible to kill off the little demons which lets you stall for skills or better orbs on the larger ones
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 01:09:07 AM
Yep. Ain't it cool?

Either way I'm really going to have to luck out or have to go pick up a refillable card and get me some stones since my own card still hasn't arrived in the mail yet. If I can do this in 3 stones or less I will be immensely pleased. <_<;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 01:11:46 AM
Hmm.

...I really wish siren was dark type because like a third of my rcv comes from her.

Also may try ecchi-sama/siren for unlimited stall. Could make Hera easier.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 01:17:35 AM
Yep. Ain't it cool?

Either way I'm really going to have to luck out or have to go pick up a refillable card and get me some stones since my own card still hasn't arrived in the mail yet. If I can do this in 3 stones or less I will be immensely pleased. <_<;
also remember to stall as much as you can, because you don't want to get 'lucky' with orbs and melt the entire dungeon only to face Hera and have no skills available. Best places to stall are on during the stage (especially if you get lucky and nothing will attack you right away), neptune (wait until his last turn before activating baron since baron only lasts one turn anyways), and hades (hit him once, see how much you do and then just stall until you have just enough turns to kill him + 1 for safety)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 01:21:55 AM
But I'm going to HAVE to melt the first few floors because even with two RKs and a good UmiYama friend (who seems flaky at best because they switch a lot), I'm only going to have around 10000 HP, which is... well, two devil/demon hits. Fuck those little bastards forever.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 01:22:56 AM
But I'm going to HAVE to melt the first few floors because even with two RKs and a good UmiYama friend (who seems flaky at best because they switch a lot), I'm only going to have around 10000 HP, which is... well, two devil/demon hits. Fuck those little bastards forever.

Atleast they can't bind in hera! : D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 01:24:22 AM
If they could, I would bring Alraune instead, since Cure is immensely more useful after the update \o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 01:25:06 AM
Hmm.

...I really wish siren was dark type because like a third of my rcv comes from her.

Also may try ecchi-sama/siren for unlimited stall. Could make Hera easier.
With Siren/Ecchi though how will you have enough to tank Hades hits?

But I'm going to HAVE to melt the first few floors because even with two RKs and a good UmiYama friend (who seems flaky at best because they switch a lot), I'm only going to have around 10000 HP, which is... well, two devil/demon hits. Fuck those little bastards forever.
They don't necessarily attack right away though, so it comes down to luck, both on the part of orbs and thier attack timers :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 01:32:36 AM
With Siren/Ecchi though how will you have enough to tank Hades hits?

i'm not going to

i'm going to blow him up
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 01:41:12 AM
i'm not going to

i'm going to blow him up
so i guess you're going dual luci instead of DJ/luci


Also oh right Zeus is coming up and I still have never beaten him

But with W/L Isis I think I just might be able to

If I run Echidna, SusanooLeek, and double gravity, I can use Susanoo active to beat the Chimeras (without caring about binds because ISIS HEAL WOO), then pop everyone else on Zeus and try to take him out, which requires 475k damage a turn which isn't too bad BUT ALSO since Susanoo lasts even after you kill whoever you use it on, I can use the remaining Susanoo turns to beat Zeus down a bit before going for the killing blow with Echidna and gravities.


or i could try goemon since i have an optimal goemon team now

but fuck goemon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 01:46:14 AM
so i guess you're going dual luci instead of DJ/luci

yes :v

resist is rarely a good idea unless the dungeon is completely monotype

Edit: SPEAKING OF RESIST. RESIST AWAKENING IS NOW 3%!!!!!! OH MAN SUCH BOOST
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 01:51:48 AM
they stack additive with each other though right? so that dragon with 5 wood resists now resists for 15% :V

more importantly though apparently for tomorrow's 6.3 patch, Korea is getting Archangel and Ra!
(http://i.imgur.com/FLFRkjM.png)

i wonder if this will be true for us as well
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 01:53:35 AM
they stack additive with each other though right? so that dragon with 5 wood resists now resists for 15% :V

more importantly though apparently for tomorrow's 6.3 patch, Korea is getting Archangel and Ra!
(http://i.imgur.com/FLFRkjM.png)

i wonder if this will be true for us as well

Yep!

the problems more they keep sticking it as a 1 off on everything instead of more monsters like him lol

also oh my god i am not ready for glasses angel yet i swear i would actually drop everything to make her
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 01:54:32 AM
Now that I think about it:

Drawn Joker
Keeper of Rainbow
Keeper of Dark
Echidna
Seraph of Dawn Lucifer
Odin friend

would be pretty good, wouldn't it? DJ can bring the healing, and Odin can pretty much just tank everything. Hades, though...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 01:56:42 AM
Now that I think about it:

Drawn Joker
Keeper of Rainbow
Keeper of Dark
Echidna
Seraph of Dawn Lucifer
Odin friend

would be pretty good, wouldn't it? DJ can bring the healing, and Odin can pretty much just tank everything. Hades, though...

resist/odin is a legit strategy for this dungeon

it is the absolute worst stall experience known to man however

like if you thought your little fun with demons was bad hoooooboy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 01:59:47 AM
resist/odin is a legit strategy for this dungeon

it is the absolute worst stall experience known to man however

like if you thought your little fun with demons was bad hoooooboy
well at least in this case you know there is a guaranteed Hera at the end of the long road


Also with that team Hades will only hit for like 8k so you're fine

You're biggest problem though is going to be healing, with only one drawn joker that I'm gonna assume is not max skilled.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 02:00:31 AM
well at least in this case you know there is a guaranteed Hera at the end of the long road

this is true and having luci along will considerably speed things up tbh
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 02:02:23 AM
If only you had a MAX skilled Siren instead of Keeper of dark then that team would actually be perfect (and pretty much the team I used to clear Hera the first time)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 02:05:00 AM
If only Siren were easy to get ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 02:08:16 AM
i was gonna say farm ice mechdragon expert but oh man, it's x2 rate just happens to be on saturday, right after hera ends...

well not that it actually matters since you'd still need to level it and skill it up and etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 02:09:15 AM
Then I know what I'm doing Saturday BV
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 02:10:50 AM
imo U&Y still might be the better pick though because even if you get orb trolled a few times that's a few stones gone, but with no max skilled siren it's very easy to get heart trolled dozens of times during the long long fights.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 02:14:58 AM
imo U&Y still might be the better pick though because even if you get orb trolled a few times that's a few stones gone, but with no max skilled siren it's very easy to get heart trolled dozens of times during the long long fights.

trust me with my luck i can tell you, you'll get heart trolled even -with- max siren.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 02:17:03 AM
hmm, I'm wondering if resist/luci might work better than resist/odin, cause odin works best if you can always stay max hp with heals while with luci you have better stats in general

on the other hand odin has that nice auto heal
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 02:18:33 AM
hmm, I'm wondering if resist/luci might work better than resist/odin, cause odin works best if you can always stay max hp with heals while with luci you have better stats in general

on the other hand odin has that nice auto heal

Resist/Luci doesn't work i think

hades stops it p.sure
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 02:22:25 AM
can't you just kill it like how you are going to? Since mats has a luci she can just use one as a sub and have one for Neptune and one for Had-

fuck you need gravity riiiiiight


well you also have the option of running a zombie team with Arashi's Ammy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 02:25:50 AM
can't you just kill it like how you are going to? Since mats has a luci she can just use one as a sub and have one for Neptune and one for Had-

fuck you need gravity riiiiiight

on top of that you need a neptune answer too so you can save MS for hades

Edit: oh whoops missed the sub part nvm
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 02:28:12 AM
this method makes the 6 bosses trivially easy but the first 4 stages pretty tricky (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=2128)


so uh i'm looking at a skill up rate chart

and for a 75% chance of max skilling Hera, I need 85 Heras...

that's 28 stones...

<_< >_>

yeah have fun trying to skill up- 3 of these things chaore



ROFL GUNGHO PLS (http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/sanrio.html)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 03:43:41 AM
so uh i'm looking at a skill up rate chart

and for a 75% chance of max skilling Hera, I need 85 Heras...

that's 28 stones...

<_< >_>

yeah have fun trying to skill up- 3 of these things chaore

yeah i kinda figured it'd be a pain- it'll probably take me years to properly skill up -one-.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 03:48:33 AM
ROFL GUNGHO PLS (http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/sanrio.html)

you have no fucking idea how hype I am for this you really don't

(also pls add mashumaromitainafuwafuwanyanko)

(watch it never come to the US)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Chaore on January 24, 2014, 04:04:09 AM
man i should stop forgetting about the fact theres no fire orbs and siren is useless when i try luci land dragon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 24, 2014, 04:14:17 AM
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So, uhh, can I Green Odin through Hera tomorrow?
I mean, of course the first waves are gonna be rough but you know I'll try to not be murdered.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Bio on January 24, 2014, 04:21:32 AM
You don't have Armor Break or Poison?

Might take a long time.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Suikama on January 24, 2014, 04:24:20 AM
Yeah you want some poison or Neptune will have a field day

Also you only need about 8.5k hp to survive hades so giving up Rkeeper for poison should be ok
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 24, 2014, 04:28:08 AM
I figured Sakuya could cut some of the work off Neptune. My only source of poison is a Succubus, so I'll lose out on a bunch of HP.
My only concern is that I won't be able to kill Hades in time, since I don't really know how easily he dies.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on January 24, 2014, 04:32:02 AM
I figured Sakuya could cut some of the work off Neptune. My only source of poison is a Succubus, so I'll lose out on a bunch of HP.
My only concern is that I won't be able to kill Hades in time, since I don't really know how easily he dies.

Nothing ever dies remotely easily with Ama/Odin, you cannot beat Hera with any Odin-based team unless you can survive Hades's hits or have, like, several dozen stones.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 24, 2014, 04:36:23 AM
Well yeah with my current team and my friend's Odin I can definitely eat Hades even without a defense boost. Those guys are literally there for the HP at this point.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 5 - So I heard you like fruity dragons
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 24, 2014, 04:41:54 AM
Time for a new thread! Someone make it.