Author Topic: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade - I'm hopelessly in love (Read 470842 times)

MewMewHeart · « **Reply #150 on:** May 27, 2013, 02:35:24 AM »

I used Reimu's Shinto deck, to beat her story mode since it seems to have a bit more zoning on it and plus I could get off a few Fantasy Seals.

monhan · « **Reply #151 on:** May 27, 2013, 02:40:57 AM »

Quote from: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 08:28:08 PM

I've been running in Japanese Locale and I've yet to crash. At all.

E: Read the rest of the thread, question was answered.

Quote from: Helepolis on May 26, 2013, 08:46:28 PM

Correct. I did a playthrough myself as well with Marisa and had no crash. I have to run the game in Japanese local as otherwise the dialogues are completely messed up.

What's weird is that mine never crashed, not even with Koishi, unless I apply the patch. What does it fix anyway? I don't find any bug that's noteworthy.

Though the AI isn't much, playing story mode in Lunatic get's really hard sometimes(damn Reimu, and Kokoro's last spell is tough).

Metaflare · « **Reply #152 on:** May 27, 2013, 02:47:47 AM »

Quote from: monhan on May 27, 2013, 02:40:57 AM

What's weird is that mine never crashed, not even with Koishi, unless I apply the patch. What does it fix anyway? I don't find any bug that's noteworthy.

im surprised you're asking this considering the post that answers this question is only a little below the ones you quoted:

Quote from: Stuffman on May 26, 2013, 10:25:33 PM

The crash is caused by Koishi's rose vine special, and only if you have patched.

(Note: if you don't patch, Futo becomes basically unplayable instead because her heavy bullets don't leave plates and she's missing various other improvement tweaks as well, so this isn't a viable solution)

Clarste · « **Reply #153 on:** May 27, 2013, 02:49:14 AM »

For what it's worth, I patched and have never had any problems with Koishi. All her spells work fine. Unfortunately this means I can't tell you the solution.

Validon98 · « **Reply #154 on:** May 27, 2013, 02:55:09 AM »

Okay, I'm apparently not used enough to Byakuren, because man, is Kokoro giving me a HARD time. I've already used three continues, one on Mamizou and two on her. I just don't get how her last spell is physically possible. Help? ;~;

commandercool · « **Reply #155 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:00:03 AM »

I patched and got the crash on Koishi (set to Japanese locale as well). Having trouble figuring out what's going on without translations, but I've barely spent any time with the game yet so I'm sure I'll work some of it out. Nitori's looking like my favorite so far, although I haven't unlocked Mamizou yet and I really like what little I've seen of her.

monhan · « **Reply #156 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:00:44 AM »

Quote from: Metaflare on May 27, 2013, 02:47:47 AM

im surprised you're asking this considering the post that answers this question is only a little below the ones you quoted:

Well, I wrote this yesterday, fell asleep, and post it in the morning without realizing there's already 59 replies....
Kinda stupid, really.

Quote from: Clarste on May 27, 2013, 02:49:14 AM

For what it's worth, I patched and have never had any problems with Koishi. All her spells work fine. Unfortunately this means I can't tell you the solution.

Did the vine one didn't make it crash? It's getting even harder to figure out...

Oh yeah, can anyone explain to me how to netplay? I don't understand what I'm supposed to do.

LadyScarlet · « **Reply #157 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:01:24 AM »

Kokoro's second and third spells.

How. D8

Shizzo · « **Reply #158 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:14:15 AM »

2nd spell: Just wait for the fiery master spark to pass you, and then graze on the opposite direction it's going to. Alternatively, just try standing behind her.

3rd spell: This one is a bit tricky, the attack itself is unblockable and ungrazable, so you have to dodge it the old fashioned way, moving left and right throughout the screen until she lands. Punish her with one or two combos, rinse and repeat. You need, above all, patience to get this spellcard without dying or "bombing".

On a sidenote, I'm surprised. I played some netplay earlier today and goodness, Koishi is actually good/fun to play as! I'm surprised since I expected her to be an awful character after playing one or two matches with her yesterday.

Clarste · « **Reply #159 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:17:01 AM »

Quote from: LadyScarlet on May 27, 2013, 03:01:24 AM

Kokoro's second and third spells.

How. D8

The second spell is the dragon mask, right? You just hit her between fire waves? You can just block the fire. Or graze it, if you're feeling frisky. There's a pretty long gap between them.

Her third spell is the fox mask? Try to stay under the side she just went towards. This will make her spawn over your head and go away from you (on Normal anyway). It can be kind of slow if you don't have a reliable way to hit her from super-far away (and aren't good enough to combo her to death during the brief break) so I usually save my spellcards for this phase.

LadyScarlet · « **Reply #160 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:20:00 AM »

Quote from: Clarste on May 27, 2013, 03:17:01 AM

The second spell is the dragon mask, right? You just hit her between fire waves? You can just block the fire. Or graze it, if you're feeling frisky. There's a pretty long gap between them.

Her third spell is the fox mask? Try to stay under the side she just went towards. This will make her spawn over your head and go away from you (on Normal anyway). It can be kind of slow if you don't have a reliable way to hit her from super-far away (and aren't good enough to combo her to death during the brief break) so I usually save my spellcards for this phase.

Wait, does going down allow you to graze? I think I saw that in a video, and that would really help on the 2nd spell.

Hinacle · « **Reply #161 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:20:48 AM »

I beat Kokoro's story. Frickin' amazing. The final fight was just sooooo much fun.
Incase anyone is wondering the fight order in her story goes:

Spoiler:

I can't wait until she gets patched in.
E: Aw, I wanted to attach the replay.

LadyScarlet · « **Reply #162 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:24:22 AM »

Maybe upload it to Mediafire or something? I want to watch the replay. I think I'll main Kokoro once she's patched in. 8D

Clarste · « **Reply #163 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:24:32 AM »

Quote from: LadyScarlet on May 27, 2013, 03:20:00 AM

Wait, does going down allow you to graze? I think I saw that in a video, and that would really help on the 2nd spell.

Sometimes, but it's a bit more reliable to just go diagonal forward. Also puts you next to her for attacking afterwards.

Also, Byakuren can just dash straight forward and graze the entire thing face on.

Hinacle · « **Reply #164 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:26:51 AM »

Quote from: LadyScarlet on May 27, 2013, 03:24:22 AM

Maybe upload it to Mediafire or something? I want to watch the replay. I think I'll main Kokoro once she's patched in. 8D

Proof (just in case if someone asks)
Here you go~

Now to do a normal clear.

LadyScarlet · « **Reply #165 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:27:35 AM »

Quote from: Clarste on May 27, 2013, 03:24:32 AM

Sometimes, but it's a bit more reliable to just go diagonal forward. Also puts you next to her for attacking afterwards.

Also, Byakuren can just dash straight forward and graze the entire thing face on.

Thing is, I haven't beat Story Mode with either Reimu or Marisa yet because of those two spells.

Sage Ω (Ultima) · « **Reply #166 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:36:28 AM »

How did you guys get Kokoro's story? Cheat Engine or something?

Validon98 · « **Reply #167 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:37:23 AM »

So wait, it is possible to get Kokoro? Do you just beat all of the other stories? Because I thought people said they couldn't unlock her in Story Mode... can anyone please explain to me how she can be played in story yet people are saying they can't unlock her? That makes no sense...
EDIT: I mean, I know she can't be played in anything but story, but I thought people said they couldn't even get her story. How does that work if people are able to do the story mode? I'm confused...

Clarste · « **Reply #168 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:40:15 AM »

Quote from: Hinacle on May 27, 2013, 03:26:51 AM

Proof (just in case if someone asks)
Here you go~

Now to do a normal clear.

I see you discovered my love of her spear.

Quote from: Validon98 on May 27, 2013, 03:37:23 AM

So wait, it is possible to get Kokoro? Do you just beat all of the other stories? Because I thought people said they couldn't unlock her in Story Mode... can anyone please explain to me how she can be played in story yet people are saying they can't unlock her? That makes no sense...
EDIT: I mean, I know she can't be played in anything but story, but I thought people said they couldn't even get her story. How does that work if people are able to do the story mode? I'm confused...

I just beat all the other stories.

Validon98 · « **Reply #169 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:43:29 AM »

Huh. I thought someone said that they beat all of the stories and yet couldn't play Kokoro's... huh. That's weird. Maybe I misread whatever I read, I don't know. Whatever the case, I still have to beat Byakuren's story before doing the others.
This is going to suck massively.

PhantomSong · « **Reply #170 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:46:47 AM »

This is going to be fun... :derp:

MewMewHeart · « **Reply #171 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:47:42 AM »

Just gotten through with Byakuren on Normal story mode... BAH I say the final spell card Kokoro has can be a pain especially when you're stuck throwing Vajaras at her ALL day long while grazing. :V

Hinacle · « **Reply #172 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:48:04 AM »

Quote from: Clarste on May 27, 2013, 03:40:15 AM

I see you discovered my love of her spear.

The best part about her.

Quote from: PhantomSong on May 27, 2013, 03:46:47 AM

This is going to be fun... :derp:

It hurts when you get to 100% popularity and can't do anything about it. :V
I kept doing the command out of habit.

Amraphenson · « **Reply #173 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:49:43 AM »

Honestly I just swap to the rocket vajra skill, and then bosses are pretty easy to just snipe if I can't melee them for 70% of their HP to begin with.

Validon98 · « **Reply #174 on:** May 27, 2013, 03:57:39 AM »

I swear, Kokoro's last spell with Byakuren is damn near impossible. This is the first time I've made it to her without continuing, and guess what? THERE GOES ANOTHER 1CC!
Fuck that last spell. Fuck it to eternity.

Clarste · « **Reply #175 on:** May 27, 2013, 04:02:16 AM »

If you're patient you can just throw knives at her forever. All her bullets allow yours to pass through. Of course the stupid way I did it was constantly try to dash under her and do ^B.

Validon98 · « **Reply #176 on:** May 27, 2013, 04:07:56 AM »

Welp, I finally fricking did it. I almost lost AGAIN while she was close to dying. I swear, I'm never playing with Byakuren after this. The concept of the stances is nice and her moves are pretty powerful, but the lack of a good ranged option makes her not really great in Story Mode.
Let's try Koishi now and see how much of a trainwreck that'll be (hopefully not TOO bad...).
EDIT: By that I meant in Story Mode. I might still give her a shot in VS Com and in netplay, but I'm definitely not maining her, that's for sure.

Clarste · « **Reply #177 on:** May 27, 2013, 04:10:11 AM »

Mind pulse!

Validon98 · « **Reply #178 on:** May 27, 2013, 04:11:24 AM »

OH HEY THE ROSE SPELLS DON'T WORK FOR ME EITHER WHAT A SHOCK!
Also, I'm confused by her gimmick. Do you input the commands and then she does them on her own or something?

Hinacle · « **Reply #179 on:** May 27, 2013, 04:13:32 AM »

Quote from: Validon98 on May 27, 2013, 04:11:24 AM

OH HEY THE ROSE SPELLS DON'T WORK FOR ME EITHER WHAT A SHOCK!
Also, I'm confused by her gimmick. Do you input the commands and then she does them on her own or something?

I think on her own. I have to no clue tbh. Playing Koishi story mode was kinda painful for me. Not as painful as Nitori, but still painful.