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~Hakurei Shrine~ => Alice's Art Atelier => Topic started by: GenericArrangements on May 09, 2017, 07:22:34 PM

Title: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Track 3: Lonely Night ~ Illusionary Night
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 09, 2017, 07:22:34 PM
Generic Sheet Music:

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - A Sacred Lot: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ifvaxznejsi2gkq/AABedGLumbJigvSXDABywhU0a?dl=0)
 - Eternal Shrine Maiden: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g9dou6q341j2k3v/AACt9niEI4ZURVC4L85Y5hoLa?dl=0)
 - The Positive and Negative: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w8s05b29nyh09oz/AAC8qeCMWDOCnF-h3_4rjGzZa?dl=0)
 - Highly Responsive to Prayers: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/svcemd0tvjuh8eq/AACPwEedeVYGtJSqQi6YBNDaa?dl=0)
 - Strange Oriental Discourse: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1wuw05d3i13qimr/AAA9Hd72DXjKKuBXTl2iz6iIa?dl=0)
 - Angel's Legend: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0h5dlf1pp6n4u7w/AABLnL_5o2UDasWoFc_pkaREa?dl=0)
 - Blade of Banishment: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vpfdqhcs77ts18q/AABfBCLIwauTMNX5FIFKMtA8a?dl=0)
 - Magic Mirror (Makai): LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ffrql6hipt0wxab/AABFhMaX6Dkn991I8WEJs5Tka?dl=0)
 - The Legend of KAGE: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r4raogic6hn3mqq/AABbDD_9odrxpCOI-GsWLgRaa?dl=0)
 - Now, Until the Moment You Die: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oitnlvqro16kwfr/AADgiI7Sa9uqN_XT-aMeiWaWa?dl=0)
 - Swordsman of a Distant Star: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q0wrpb3ve771nd4/AAACMX09wg87kgVax2VwGyXla?dl=0)
 - Iris: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zyimmua6xqy6uyy/AABfL_DkL-2knF63yotzmyKha?dl=0)

Touhou 2: Story of Eastern Wonderland:
 - She's in a Temper!!: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/89fb86vh2f544s2/AACNyyxu_-tb7yTdHjTUkksEa?dl=0)
 - Power of Darkness: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/biwor5tn0pvvolx/AAB2xXLwzHU55yrWnf1cX_l4a?dl=0)
 - Complete Darkness: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ema59yfnfax672z/AAClHXnjAN8FJWxfmoR67Yxla?dl=0)

Touhou 6: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil:
 - U.N. Owen Was Her?: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tyc1oduw9rbp28u/AACwpzTpPanRYUzTeKTnt4MMa?dl=0)

Touhou 7: Perfect Cherry Blossom:
 - Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When?: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2kifnzy5wmgee78/AADWWXfhqOjgq2oMHCIj0J7ja?dl=0)

Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith:
 - Road of the Apotropaic God ~ Dark Road: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h08ottqqcsb9efg/AAAviQqi8LqueHX3PB5oj4kLa?dl=0)
 - Akutagawa Ryuunosuke's Kappa ~ Candid Friend: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cjb89rs0cnojpp1/AAD93sDitToowyU5byC3V_Boa?dl=0)
 - Youkai Mountain ~ Mysterious Mountain: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fsawyyj7homjezm/AACR4Yp895OlTodd2UM4aQPEa?dl=0)
 - Tomorrow Will Be Special ~ Yesterday Was Not: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/uaf25s6ttmyz42m/AAAyjI4tQWVwP6o-eL-Nl4vza?dl=0)

Touhou 11: Subterranean Animism:
 - Green-Eyed Jealousy: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/me0aonti8nlfo8d/AADnG0J4hvLz6sWpoR519ZS2a?dl=0)
 - Hartmann's Youkai Girl: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/04am6a7e01hz9xy/AAAcNFIeoZwZNbtJMw5pLiO_a?dl=0)

Touhou 12: Undefined Fantastic Object:
 - The Traditional Old Man and the Stylish Girl: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u5g4lndfghgom7u/AADtFt6FwgdcW1BjW7adgV0ra?dl=0)
 - Provincial Makai City Esoteria: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ozag239tvrcmr9f/AAB4yehbZrcKMWSPnSGx9mJFa?dl=0)
 - UFO Romance in the Night Sky: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lfuhtg1a2m48ov4/AAAlaQhiSMq11RZ-iKO0YzlGa?dl=0)

Touhou 13: Ten Desires:
 - Futatsuiwa from Sado: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qcfd2fnath33ynp/AABtSrfzK5QqmnnEsNf3lN3Ma?dl=0)

Touhou 14: Double Dealing Character:
 - Dullahan Under the Willows: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/65l477jqqattu9y/AAAo-VkcFfBvOOWdBgMD4loka?dl=0)

Touhou 16: Hidden Star in Four Seasons:
 - Autumn Winds on Youkai Mountain: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w2egdvcziw4s307/AADyPXG-8P0rNCQ2lJyGH4wsa?dl=0)
 - Deep-Mountain Encounter: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1bnq0dyywuckmik/AAB5p344N9sRAI3pO1xm6Wbra?dl=0)



All links go to DropBox folders.
Sometimes I like to update these things without telling people, so if you have a problem with a sheet, I likely have that same problem with it and may update it without being asked. If I don't happen to notice something for a while, feel free to inform me about it.




Arrangements:

Volume 1:
 - Arrangement #1: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-1)
 - Arrangement #2: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-2)
 - Arrangement #3: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-3)
 - Medley #1: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-medley-1)

Volume 2:
 - Arrangement #1: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/faithful-touhou-arrangements-stage-1)
 - Arrangement #2: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/sweet-dreams-eternal-spring-dream-arr)
 - Arrangement #3: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/im-terrible-with-names-egoistic-flowers-arrange)
 - Arrangement #4: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-4)
 - Arrangement #5: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-5)
 - Arrangement #6: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-6) DRUMKIT (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-6-drumkit-version)
 - Arrangement #7: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-7)
 - Arrangement #8: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-8)
 - Arrangement #9: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-9)
 - Arrangement #3 (Volume 1 Remaster): LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-3-remastered)

Volume 3:
 - Track 1: Backup Dancers: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/track-1-backup-dancers)
 - Track 2: Strange Techno Discourse: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/track-2-strange-techno-discourse)
 - Track 3: Lonely Night ~ Illusionary Night: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/track-3-lonely-night-illusionary-night)



All links go to SoundCloud. One day I may switch platforms but that day is not today apparently.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 10, 2017, 09:03:29 AM
[insert intro comment here]

Touhou 16: Hidden Star in Four Seasons:
 - Deep-Mountain Encounter: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1bnq0dyywuckmik/AAB5p344N9sRAI3pO1xm6Wbra?dl=0)

[insert main comment here]

Sorry about the bland left hand parts in some sections. Nothing worked better.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 12, 2017, 10:06:24 AM
To prove that I'm not here just to dump sheet music of the most recent game, I'm going to post something that makes it look like I'm just seeking attention, or have less knowledge of Touhou than I actually do.

Touhou 6: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil:
 - U.N. Owen Was Her?: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tyc1oduw9rbp28u/AACwpzTpPanRYUzTeKTnt4MMa?dl=0)

Also I felt like it.

I don't really know if "Chaotically" is a good tempo marking to use for this piece, but there were so many words floating around my head that I couldn't actually think of, that I ended up going with that instead.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 12, 2017, 09:35:55 PM
Ditto, but slightly more obscure.

Touhou 11: Subterranean Animism:
 - Hartmann's Youkai Girl: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/04am6a7e01hz9xy/AAAcNFIeoZwZNbtJMw5pLiO_a?dl=0)

Recently I beat this Extra Stage again because I lost my old replay. I forgot to save the replay.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 13, 2017, 08:51:21 AM
Bonus points for picking the first Touhou song (from a player's perspective).

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - A Sacred Lot: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ifvaxznejsi2gkq/AABedGLumbJigvSXDABywhU0a?dl=0)

Some songs aren't really meant for solo piano, nor are some songs easy to arrange for it. There was almost nowhere that felt like good opportunities for slurs, and it all seems incredibly difficult. Then again, it's unlikely that someone would expect this of all songs to be easy to play.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 14, 2017, 11:54:37 AM
And now, for something completely different.

Touhou 11: Subterranean Animism:
 - Green Eyed-Jealousy: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/me0aonti8nlfo8d/AADnG0J4hvLz6sWpoR519ZS2a?dl=0)

Not an incredibly popular song, but one that translates very well onto solo piano. Probably because it is a piano piece lol.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 15, 2017, 11:51:52 AM
More popular stuff:

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - Eternal Shrine Maiden: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g9dou6q341j2k3v/AACt9niEI4ZURVC4L85Y5hoLa?dl=0)

"Popular" as in "has enough significance to be moderately well-known within the fanbase, and is also a pretty good song".

I really need to start getting synonyms for "dramatically". ZUN jokingly stated in one of the music comments for SoEW that it's all he knew how to make, and it shows a bit in HRtP. It's not 100% true, but it was funny anyway.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 16, 2017, 12:37:51 PM
There's no explanation for this one:

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - The Positive and Negative: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w8s05b29nyh09oz/AAC8qeCMWDOCnF-h3_4rjGzZa?dl=0)

This song is fast. Very fast. But it's only 55 seconds long and has several repeated sequences. As a result I couldn't really do much with it.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 17, 2017, 12:14:37 PM
yo it's Mima lmao

Touhou 2: Story of Eastern Wonderland:
 - Complete Darkness: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ema59yfnfax672z/AAClHXnjAN8FJWxfmoR67Yxla?dl=0)

One of those cases of "it should be in A#m but I don't want to kill you with double sharps". Bbm looks nicer.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 18, 2017, 11:15:06 AM
title drop

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - Highly Responsive to Prayers: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/svcemd0tvjuh8eq/AACPwEedeVYGtJSqQi6YBNDaa?dl=0)

I don't feel like this song really deserves to be named after the whole game. It only plays in Stage 6-9 in one route of the game anyway.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 19, 2017, 11:02:29 AM
Nice short one.

Touhou 2: Story of Eastern Wonderland:
 - She's in a Temper!!: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/89fb86vh2f544s2/AACNyyxu_-tb7yTdHjTUkksEa?dl=0)

This song's quite unique for a Stage 1 boss theme, although that's to be expected from the very first one. The structure for a standard Stage 1 boss theme is there though.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 20, 2017, 10:39:57 AM
This was actually really simple.

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - Strange Oriental Discourse: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1wuw05d3i13qimr/AAA9Hd72DXjKKuBXTl2iz6iIa?dl=0)

Of course, the multitude of repeated notes ultimately lead to increased playability concerns.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 21, 2017, 10:02:20 AM
Really I'm just dumping all of this stuff because I feel like it.

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - Angel's Legend: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0h5dlf1pp6n4u7w/AABLnL_5o2UDasWoFc_pkaREa?dl=0)

Why the Jigoku is this song three and a half minutes long. It's the second boss theme in the game. Sure YuugenMagan is annoying, but I don't remember the fight lasting three minutes. It just repeats the first half, with less drums. Honestly it's the cheapest way ZUN's lengthened a song, and it wasn't even necessary.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 22, 2017, 11:23:10 AM
Expired certificate or not, I'm still uploading sheet music.

Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith:
 - Youkai Mountain ~ Mysterious Mountain: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fsawyyj7homjezm/AACR4Yp895OlTodd2UM4aQPEa?dl=0)

I know I'm essentially talking to myself, but sometimes I like to consider how to draw people in to this content. The market is small to begin with, but I guess a few things could change (like changing my username to a more respectable identifier for example). I try to make my sheets fancy (~ish), but I wonder if people are seeing it at all (well according to the view count, there obviously are some people). To be honest I seem to be writing this out in a way that gives the impression that I actually care about that sort of thing. Really it doesn't matter. In the end I'm the one having fun making content.

Woah that's longer than it should be.

EDIT: Also the version of this song that plays in Double Spoiler is almost identical to this one, so I could just pass this off as that song too, but I'll get to that when I'm bothered.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 23, 2017, 12:21:05 PM
I have... er... strong opinions on DDC. Not very positive ones. That's for another time though. This song is one of the few in the soundtrack that stand out.

Touhou 14: Double Dealing Character:
 - Dullahan Under the Willows: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/65l477jqqattu9y/AAAo-VkcFfBvOOWdBgMD4loka?dl=0)

Yes, I did beam over barlines. I can argue my reasoning.

Also as for names, I can't really change my username straight away (as that requires changing it everywhere I am, which would be confusing for some people, or make it hard for me to prove that I made something and that I'm not stealing), so I could put them just on the sheets, without changing my username on the forums. I don't have any creative names floating around as of late, so I'll leave it for now.

Working on another music-related project right now (which may or may not be an album), so managing this page is becoming increasingly difficult.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [MoF] Candid Friend
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 24, 2017, 10:45:20 AM
I like to be very unique and stylish with my sheets. This is a strange mix of both that and a bit of boring left hand movement, but hopefully it worked out nicely.

Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith:
 - Akutagawa Ryuunosuke's Kappa: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cjb89rs0cnojpp1/AAD93sDitToowyU5byC3V_Boa?dl=0)

I had to force myself not to put the lyrics for Nitori no Uta in there. Would've been great, but a bit too much.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 25, 2017, 11:59:41 AM
It's basically solidified at this point that I'm talking into a void. Honestly it gets funnier as it goes along, plus I get to write whatever I want without fear of criticism.

Touhou 7: Perfect Cherry Blossom:
 - Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When?: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2kifnzy5wmgee78/AADWWXfhqOjgq2oMHCIj0J7ja?dl=0)

Quite repetitive. Not the most repetitive (the owner of that award almost tried to be boring), but very much so. Not a huge fan of the organ either, but it's a nice variety to have (rather than Zunpets everywhere), and it's not like the whole soundtrack spammed the organ either.

Still working on that name. Extremely hard to choose between either "i write sheet music lol" or "name", although more ideas may start coming through.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 26, 2017, 10:39:53 AM
Speaking of repetitive song:

Touhou 2: Story of Eastern Wonderland:
 - Power of Darkness: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/biwor5tn0pvvolx/AAB2xXLwzHU55yrWnf1cX_l4a?dl=0)

I like this song though. Also I got to expand my tempo marking vocabulary for my current Touhou sheets.

Also now "I Make Sheet Music" is becoming a likely name. However, if I make enough Touhou sheets (probably 150-200 or something) I could call myself the "Touhou Sheet Music Landfill" but I'd have to wait a while for that. I'm forcing myself into a strict "one-per-day" schedule, and 200 days seems like a long time.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [SoEW] Power of Darkness
Post by: GhoulMage on May 26, 2017, 02:42:58 PM
It's pretty strange that after all what you did no one seems to have replied here :V

I feel like MoTK doesn't pay attention to artists here, at least not if they are not popular somwhere else. Welp, nice work you have there, keep doing it!
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [SoEW] Power of Darkness
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 27, 2017, 12:14:23 AM
It's pretty strange that after all what you did no one seems to have replied here :V
That's normal for me really, although if I do end up arranging all of the PC98 era songs and don't get much notice, I may be a little bit peeved

I feel like MoTK doesn't pay attention to artists here, at least not if they are not popular somwhere else.
Hmm, that's interesting.

Welp, nice work you have there, keep doing it!
Thanks! As I said, strict one-per-day schedule. Not going to stop for a while (unless something else stops me at any given point temporarily).
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 27, 2017, 08:38:31 AM
Anyhoo~ More sheet.

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - Blade of Banishment: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vpfdqhcs77ts18q/AABfBCLIwauTMNX5FIFKMtA8a?dl=0)

If you noticed, I skipped Oriental Magician. This is really only because I couldn't get it to sound good, so I stopped less than halfway. This song is a bit nicer anyway, and it let me be very creative with the left hand movements.

"Sheet Music Person" is also an option for a name.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 28, 2017, 11:11:11 AM
Maximum show-offery.

Touhou 12: Undefined Fantastic Object:
 - Provincial Makai City Esoteria: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ozag239tvrcmr9f/AAB4yehbZrcKMWSPnSGx9mJFa?dl=0)

So show-offy in fact that I had to use a separate exporter because the standard PDF wouldn't actually load anything in most software (for some reason the only one that worked was Windows 8's default "Reader"). I feel like this piece deserved extra attention because of its time signature, and because it's a genuinely great song.

Also I have to thank a friend for a few beaming problems here and there. Great help.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music:
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 29, 2017, 10:32:07 AM
Something different.

Touhou 13: Ten Desires:
 - Futatsuiwa from Sado: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qcfd2fnath33ynp/AABtSrfzK5QqmnnEsNf3lN3Ma?dl=0)

Good song. I tried to make the sheet live up to it. Nothing much else to say.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [HRtP] Magic Mirror (Makai)
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 30, 2017, 11:42:29 AM
More HRtP.

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - Magic Mirror (Makai): LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ffrql6hipt0wxab/AABFhMaX6Dkn991I8WEJs5Tka?dl=0)

I like how this song foreshadows at least 2 songs from the series, although those melodies reappeared in PC98, and only one has appeared in Windows Series. Some people say there's Nostalgic Blood of the East there, but the similarities are too generic and unspecific to allow appropriate explanations. Also this song is only 2 pages long, compared to a weaker boss battle, which lasts for 6 pages. Makes sense.

This song is almost the same for the Hell version. Probably a really easy way of saving myself in case I run out of back-ups.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [MoF] Tomorrow Will Be Special
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 31, 2017, 11:39:20 AM
I've been running out of time to make these things recently. Work and all that more important stuff.

Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith:
 - Tomorrow Will Be Special ~ Yesterday Was Not: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/uaf25s6ttmyz42m/AAAyjI4tQWVwP6o-eL-Nl4vza?dl=0)

So, uh... 7 pages. It's a long song, so I guess it's practically a given. I have fond memories of this tune, considering it plays in the first Extra Stage I ever beat. Fun times.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [HrTP] The Legend of KAGE
Post by: GenericArrangements on June 01, 2017, 10:45:01 AM
Heh.

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - The Legend of KAGE: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r4raogic6hn3mqq/AABbDD_9odrxpCOI-GsWLgRaa?dl=0)

Nicolas KAGE.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [MoF] Road of the Apotropaic God
Post by: GenericArrangements on June 02, 2017, 10:55:01 AM
I'm tired.

Touhou 10: Mountain of Faith:
 - Road of the Apotropaic God ~ Dark Road: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h08ottqqcsb9efg/AAAviQqi8LqueHX3PB5oj4kLa?dl=0)

Subjectively the best Stage 2 theme. I think the style was pulled-off really well. Also I like how the stage works especially well with the music.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [UFO] The Traditional Old Man
Post by: GenericArrangements on June 03, 2017, 10:40:31 AM
I'm still tired.

Touhou 12: Undefined Fantastic Object:
 - The Traditional Old Man and the Stylish Girl: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u5g4lndfghgom7u/AADtFt6FwgdcW1BjW7adgV0ra?dl=0)

This is a nice song, but the chord progression just hurts to arrange. I really like the ULiL version though.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [HRtP] Now, Until the Moment You Die
Post by: GenericArrangements on June 04, 2017, 11:47:28 AM
I should probably stop making these so late into the night.

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - Now, Until the Moment You Die: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oitnlvqro16kwfr/AADgiI7Sa9uqN_XT-aMeiWaWa?dl=0)

This really does feel like the final boss theme, although still really short for one. Most of the songs in this game are fairly short though.
Also curse the actual boss fight. It infuriates me so much.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [HRtP] Swordsman of a Distant Star
Post by: GenericArrangements on June 05, 2017, 09:46:33 AM
Instead of being tired, I'm really busy, so I'll make this even shorter.

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - Swordsman of a Distant Star: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q0wrpb3ve771nd4/AAACMX09wg87kgVax2VwGyXla?dl=0)

I like this song. I arranged it weirdly. My formatting also feels weird. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [HRtP] Swordsman of a Distant Star
Post by: Mеа on June 05, 2017, 02:04:40 PM
I do have a couple critiques and suggestions if you would like to see more interest in your works here.

My biggest critique, almost a complaint, is that there is nothing particularly distinguishing, interesting, or unique about this format of transcription 'arrangements'. I don't mean to be insulting about it if it comes across that way but I can't put it into nicer words while retaining my sincerity. You're most certainly inspired by the wrong type of piano arrangements here -- those awful, uninteresting, unambitious 'easy mode' touhou piano arrangements that saturated the 2009 youtubes.

Why do people listen to music? For different reasons surely, but most probably listen to music to get some kind of experience out of listening. If you can't convince the listener that your music offers any substantially different experience from any of those other 'easy mode' piano arrangements on youtube, then the listener will go elsewhere.
And it doesn't all come from the music being amazing (though that helps). People like to form emotional connections to music. The problem with bad transcriptions like the 'easy mode' youtube piano touhou arrangements is that they only serve to satisfy the most basic level of curiosity of 'oh, I wonder how this piece would sound like on a piano'. These transcriptions are so babelfish levels of bad, direct machine translations that it's impossible to form any sort of emotional attachment to these mechanical renditions. The emotional attachment comes from the original piece itself, the reduced piano version only provides a satisfaction to curiosity.

To begin with, that self-satisfying attitude towards transcription is entirely wrong. These are the people that would upload GXSCC '8-bit arrangements' just to satisfy the basic curiosity of 'oh I wonder how this would sound like in chiptune form'. Again, babelfish translations with no artistic or emotional value. The original point of even doing transcriptions were so that musicians could play pieces they liked on their own instrument. Here there is an actual personal element to the process and outcome. Musicians know the ins and outs of their instruments, they know how the instrument best expresses its music, and they know the limits and characteristics of their instrument. Transcribing music is simultaneously an art of reducing the original to be playable on another instrument while also exploring the music with the characteristics and limitations of the other instrument. Even though transcriptions tend to be literal, good transcriptions have their own unique touches of personality such that you could even appreciate the personality of the musician behind the transcription. This is why you can have multiple people doing their own transcriptions of the same music and come up with very different results that are each interesting.

Now I will provide you with something better. There's this one person I found whose touhou piano arrangements fall more towards transcription than arrangement, Mitty, that I really quite like. Here is a link to one of their videos of a piano version of the latter half of the music from DDC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYgd1i-BrNk). Much different from those stock 'easy mode' transcriptions, no? You can hear the author's voice clearly through the multiple transcriptions they have in the same video. If you would like to gather more interest and, more importantly, grow as a musician, then I will strongly advise you against -- or even forbid you from -- ever referring to those awful stock 'easy mode' transcriptions and instead find inspiration from better sources such as that video I liked above. And this is only a starting point. Listening widely will give you much more, better ideas to use in your own arrangements.

(Oh, and as a further suggestion, I would suggest uploading actual music format files instead of midi files so that potential listeners don't have to go through the trouble of downloading the file and inserting it into some midi player application. Would you really want people to listen to the music you worked hard on with the default windows midi piano instrument sound?)

I wish you good luck.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [HRtP] Swordsman of a Distant Star
Post by: GenericArrangements on June 05, 2017, 08:13:08 PM
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I tried to write a paragraph, but it may not have gotten my message across correctly, so I didn't bother. Here's a list;
 - I know what you're saying.
 - I agree.
 - I have plans associated with it (fancier individual pieces, medleys, etc.)
 - Not right now, but soon.
 - HRtP hasn't been cooperative.
 - I'm sorry.
 - I have reasons not to give music format-files (.mscz in my case), but I might release them anyway.
 - I'm still busy.

Also I am the opposite of "inspired" by those Easy Mode sheets. I actually hate them. I'm more "inspired" by my year-and-a-half of making VGM arrangements similar to the originals (which is something I should probably throw away too, it just gets in the way), and it happens to sound similar enough. Making fancier arrangements would actually be easier for me, because that would mean less time spent trying to get every exact note and chord. I've wanted to look into it, and I really don't understand why I didn't when I joined this forum.

Actually the idea of having two threads - for each kind of arrangement - is an idea that floats around in my head from time to time, but I don't think it would be necessary. It might even be better to purge these older sheets when I feel like replacing them. Right now I'm letting what I'm familiar with block potential creativity, and that's not good.

Thank you for bringing this up. I'll be messing around for a bit, and combined with (a lot of) work, means that an extremely temporary hiatus will commence on this thread.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [HRtP] Iris
Post by: GenericArrangements on June 11, 2017, 10:59:41 AM
Not a full change just yet, but I felt bad about going completely silent lol.

Touhou 1: Highly Responsive to Prayers:
 - Iris: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zyimmua6xqy6uyy/AABfL_DkL-2knF63yotzmyKha?dl=0)

Nothing too flashy just yet, but I just wanted to get something out there. The arrangement has a few differences here and there, most notably at the start and end, but nothing extravagant. Also yeah, I decided to throw in that MSCZ file in there too.

I'm still trying to figure out what I should be doing with this place. I have so many things I want to be doing, but I keep hesitating. I have an idea to turn this thread into a whole music-posting-place for myself, but I need to find platforms for more complex audio. SoundCloud seemed good, but it is a paid service, and I have no money. YouTube is a video-sharing website, not a music site, but as long as I can make some kind of image it should be fine. The problem is making that image lol.
Also I'm trying to figure out how far off a Touhou song I can get without it flat-out not even being Touhou anymore. It's all interpretation work but it's very important.

It doesn't seem like this forum allows users to make polls on their own thread. Might not bother with that option.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [HRtP] Iris
Post by: Z_A on June 11, 2017, 03:51:59 PM
Hi there.

First of all, thank you for your work! I downloaded a couple of your midis, as I prefer those to the actual music sheets with notes. Since I am not a real musician, I can't tell the notes apart only by ear, but I play the piano a little, being driven by the amazingness of touhou music in general. Really looking forward to you getting to MS and PoFW, those have some of the best pieces in the series, as for me.

Such transcriptions are probably not intended to be used like music files in the first place. It's more like a reference to musicians, as they try to play the piece on the actual instrument and maybe, yes, produce a more complex arrangement suitable for that instrument, piano or whatever. I enjoyed listening to Mitty's transcription, thanks Mea, but I would have probably enjoyed more if it was performed by hand, not by another of those machines. As for these transcriptions, I'm going to use them to improve my piano skill. They are fairly accurate, compared to the original composition, even if not exactly precise.
Title: Re: [Music] WaluigiTime64's Sheet Music: [UFO] UFO Romance in the Night Sky
Post by: GenericArrangements on June 17, 2017, 11:44:37 AM
So uh... I'm back (or something lol). Dunno how consistent I'll be (I've been trying to do a whole lot lately), but I'm here right now. Ideas are still being thrown around concerning what I'll be doing with this thread, but two main points are consistent: 1) This sheet music business will keep happening. 2) I may begin to post other content. Yes, that's right. OTHER CONTENT. Sounds like witchcraft, sure, but I am actually capable of more than sheet music. I'm just lazy. If I'm bothered enough, there'll be changes to the format of the main post. I'm gonna stop talking about that now lol. Here's a new sheet:

Touhou 12: Undefined Fantastic Object:
 - UFO Romance in the Night Sky: LINK (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lfuhtg1a2m48ov4/AAAlaQhiSMq11RZ-iKO0YzlGa?dl=0)

I like this song, so I tried a lot harder to make this arrangement good. Before you complain about the rather standard left hand movements, the song literally has that being played (by guitars) so I needed it for accuracy (also rhythm was important). I did, however, add an ending to it. I'll probably be doing this for all of these sheets from now on, just to make them a bit more unique, as well as to give performers an optional finish.



Hi there.
Hello. Sorry for the late reply.

First of all, thank you for your work!
You're welcome!

I downloaded a couple of your midis, as I prefer those to the actual music sheets with notes. Since I am not a real musician, I can't tell the notes apart only by ear, but I play the piano a little, being driven by the amazingness of touhou music in general. Really looking forward to you getting to MS and PoFW, those have some of the best pieces in the series, as for me.
You don't need to be able to read notes to be a "real musician". It's just vital for most things. Many people can perform without knowing how to read the notes.
Also MS and PoFV are pretty great, yeah, although I'm much less familiar with the former.

Such transcriptions are probably not intended to be used like music files in the first place. It's more like a reference to musicians, as they try to play the piece on the actual instrument and maybe, yes, produce a more complex arrangement suitable for that instrument, piano or whatever. I enjoyed listening to Mitty's transcription, thanks Mea, but I would have probably enjoyed more if it was performed by hand, not by another of those machines.
Well, that's exactly why they're there. I did like the idea of putting the notation software file in the folders, but honestly my reasons for not doing so before are starting to seem more important. Sheet music is meant to be performed, not read by software, so that's the purpose of midi files.

As for these transcriptions, I'm going to use them to improve my piano skill. They are fairly accurate, compared to the original composition, even if not exactly precise.
Oh hey that's great! It feels good knowing that what I do is worth something. That reminds me though... I should probably be putting a difficulty scale, as not all of my sheets are ridiculously hard nor ridiculously easy. Sometimes I can make a piece much harder than it should be, even though I like to keep within the realm of reasonable playability.
Also some songs are extremely difficult to translate onto piano, so accuracy tends to waffle here and there.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Sheet Music: [UFO] UFO Romance in the Night Sky
Post by: Mеа on June 22, 2017, 11:52:00 AM
UFO's extra stage theme is a really fun one, that theme. Your arrangement of it is already showing good improvements over your previous work, so good job! The first little section especially showed some new thought and personal ideas that added life. It does help that the original itself is very lively.

This next part is going to be a little wandering of words about left hand stuff in general. You mentioned something about your use of "rather standard left hand movements", meaning you do realize your trappings of the theme to this typical figuration. Maybe you actually do feel trapped and don't really know how to take it further from there? I can't speak for you, but I myself did previously was (and still sometimes kind of am) stuck on how to make left hand parts interesting. So I'm going to talk about my idea of what the role of the left hand is for a bit.
You should know that music is generally thought to be constructed by three significant aspects: melody, harmony, and rhythm. The right hand typically deals with the melody. This leaves the bulk of the work of handling the harmony and rhythm to the left hand. While certainly the "standard left hand movements" that you describe does its job of defining the harmony and a rhythm well enough, it's certainly not all that could possibly be expressed, what could be missing?
My view is that the left hand plays a big role in defining another very important aspect of music that isn't the above three, which is the texture of a passage. It's kind of a vague term, to describe how a certain passage 'feels'. The "standard left hand movements" is essentially an attempt at recreating the long harmonies that other instruments can play and hold out that the piano can't. I would describe its texture as 'rocky', since you rock back and forth between the bass note 1 and the 1,3 an octave above. While it works perfectly fine for a transcription attempting to capture the long harmonies of the bass instrument in the original piece, when stepping forward to express the theme in your own words, this question comes to mind: does this texture fit the theme? Or in other words, does this ('rocky') texture fit this theme about space/romance? When I think of space I think of large expanses, and things sweet and viscous of romance. Since this is purely an aesthetics question, I don't expect you or anyone to answer this question the same nor necessarily to even have to consider it for simple things, but it's certainly a thought to keep in mind as a tool for expression should you choose to seek it, express it, utilize it in the future.
And the thing is, you already have the right idea of how to do this, as can be seen in those first couple measures. It's bouncy and playful, which captures both Kogasa and Nue's mischievous natures. Something overused need not necessarily be trite if it's used with purpose. Just something to tickle your thoughts about.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Something Completely Different
Post by: GenericArrangements on July 02, 2017, 12:50:20 PM
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I feel terrible for not replying to this sooner. I try not to be too analytical concerning representation of elements outside of the original song's intended purpose and style, although matching atmosphere with the title makes a lot of sense. It's more difficult to achieve space or romance feels in such a quirky, upbeat song, but it's definitely something for me to think about for later sheets. Thanks a lot (again)!



Also I have something completely different to show:

Loose Touhou Arrangements:
 - Arrangement #1: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-1)

This is something I thought would be fun to do. I mentioned a while ago that I can in fact mix full songs. Here's some short amount of proof, although it's very minimalist in style. I haven't yet stated which Touhou song this is, because I feel it would be more fun that way. Some of these will probably be more obvious than others.
I might try to be consistent with posting these (unlike sheets lol), so that's likely every Sunday, unless I don't have time or don't have good ideas.
Also all links will be on SoundCloud. A bit of a pain because SoundCloud seems to have a quality problem, which forces me to upload extremely high quality files in exchange for mediocre content. It mainly affects reverb and unpitched percussion more than anything.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Something Completely Different
Post by: Z_A on July 03, 2017, 12:44:54 AM
Well, I never really expected that it would be so hard to make a comment. Still, I probably should try and say something, as there are really not enough active members in this section.

First of all, I wouldn't call this composition minimalistic in any way. It seems influenced by folk music, I instantly remembered something like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrcOf169KzI, even though I heard it a very long time ago. It also resembles the pre-battle themes from SWR, needless to say, they are quite folkish as well. I am not a big fan of folk music, so nothing more to say here.

Next, it feels like some notes sound a bit off between 0:15 and 0:17. I don't think I can explain it properly. This part is just different than the rest of the composition, so it stands out. Was that intentional?

It's also worth noting that if this composition was rendered in the 8-bit fashion and maybe made a bit faster, it would resemble a great soundtrack from those times. I just imagined how that might sound. Also, I think that I have a clue about what it is based upon.

Anyway, it's quite a nice tune, calm and serene. Not many Touhou songs are like that.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Something Completely Different
Post by: GenericArrangements on July 03, 2017, 01:53:05 AM
First of all, I wouldn't call this composition minimalistic in any way. It seems influenced by folk music, I instantly remembered something like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrcOf169KzI, even though I heard it a very long time ago. It also resembles the pre-battle themes from SWR, needless to say, they are quite folkish as well. I am not a big fan of folk music, so nothing more to say here.
I just meant there's just not much to it. I don't really know the name of this style, but I just happen to know instruments and techniques.

Next, it feels like some notes sound a bit off between 0:15 and 0:17. I don't think I can explain it properly. This part is just different than the rest of the composition, so it stands out. Was that intentional?
It's the Db-Eb-F chord progression. Just a remnant of the original song, that I couldn't quite remove without over-abusing the subdominant and dominant chords more.

It's also worth noting that if this composition was rendered in the 8-bit fashion and maybe made a bit faster, it would resemble a great soundtrack from those times. I just imagined how that might sound. Also, I think that I have a clue about what it is based upon.
I've been making quite a bit of chiptune recently, so I guess that might've influenced it a bit. I might try this suggestion because I can.

Anyway, it's quite a nice tune, calm and serene. Not many Touhou songs are like that.
That comes naturally due to the purposes of Touhou songs. There generally aren't reasons to have songs of this style, so Touhou has very minimal amounts of them. Shame because I really like this style. Thanks.

Also throughout, I noticed you continually called this a composition, even though I literally copy-pasted notes from a Touhou song, just altered heavily. I get that the arrangement is so far off the original it could be confused for one though.
This is unless I've confused the definition of a "composition".
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Something Completely Different
Post by: Z_A on July 03, 2017, 02:17:55 AM
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I just meant there's just not much to it.
Like I said, it resembles SWR pre-battle themes (most of them are basically the same theme though, with slight changes to instruments and effects). They are about the same length as yours as well. Depending on what purpose the composition serves, it can be short or long, complex or really simple. There are even songs used for advertisements, that are even more minimalistic, but that fits their purpose, and they are still complete music pieces as they are. So... where would you imagine your song to be played? And does it still feel minimalistic within that context?

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I've been making quite a bit of chiptune recently
Wow, I've always wondered what kind of people do that, and what is the actual process of creating a chiptune. I'd like to hear more about it.

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That comes naturally due to the purposes of Touhou songs.
True. Some ending compositions are like that.

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Also throughout, I noticed you continually called this a composition, even though I literally copy-pasted notes from a Touhou song, just altered heavily. I get that the arrangement is so far off the original it could be confused for one though
I just don't like calling music without actual vocals "songs", so I chose that word. Either way, you came up with an idea, you made the arrangement, and you finalized it. So, no reason to not call it a composition, I guess. Even if it's an arrangement.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Something Completely Different
Post by: GenericArrangements on July 03, 2017, 02:42:53 AM
Wow, I've always wondered what kind of people do that, and what is the actual process of creating a chiptune. I'd like to hear more about it.
It's really complicated at first, but after a while all of the strange interfaces become natural. I use FamiTracker, which is often considered the best 8-bit synthesiser replicating the Famicom audio synth. As for the "kind of people who do that", I'm not really sure. Just people with an interest in it I guess.

I just don't like calling music without actual vocals "songs", so I chose that word. Either way, you came up with an idea, you made the arrangement, and you finalized it. So, no reason to not call it a composition, I guess. Even if it's an arrangement.
Preferring instrumental music (mainly VGM), I've always had a tendency to call all forms of music "songs", with a few exceptions that I make up every so often.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Loose Arrangement #2
Post by: GenericArrangements on July 09, 2017, 11:41:18 AM
Another one:

Loose Touhou Arrangements:
 - Arrangement #2: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-2)

Nature aesthetic this time around, because I haven't done that before, and it seemed fun. It's sort of there I think, the only problem possibly being some clashing instrumentation. The drums are awfully jungle-like, but the oboe is more representative of temperate forests, which is what I was originally aiming for. To be honest I think a very gentle background waterfall sound could've worked well for what I was trying to display, but at least the strings do a good enough job with that. There are three Touhou songs arranged in here, which get progressively more loose and obscure.

Also I uploaded this thing in 32bit WAV quality, so this time the percussion doesn't sound completely weird, although that may just be because of the lack of a standard kit. The crash sounds fine.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Loose Arrangement #2
Post by: Z_A on July 09, 2017, 12:48:41 PM
This is a big step forward compared to the previous piece! It completely retains all of the Touhou stylistics, yet it does sound the way you described it. Great work with the percussion, too.

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There are three Touhou songs arranged in here, which get progressively more loose and obscure.
Seems quite the opposite to me ^^ at least, I recognized the second and the third parts.

I suggest you tone the bass down a bit. It's too intense, especially in the beginning, just filling up the whole sound with itself.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Loose Arrangement #2
Post by: GenericArrangements on July 09, 2017, 12:57:32 PM
This is a big step forward compared to the previous piece! It completely retains all of the Touhou stylistics, yet it does sound the way you described it. Great work with the percussion, too.
Thanks!

I suggest you tone the bass down a bit. It's too intense, especially in the beginning, just filling up the whole sound with itself.
Interesting, because originally I planned to make it more distinct. I guess not lol.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Loose Arrangement #3
Post by: GenericArrangements on November 05, 2017, 05:00:22 AM
So I'm alive apparently. Just been really busy. Even now, I'll probably be making my appearances monthly. Yep, monthly.

Loose Arrangement #3: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-3)

It's actually really obvious what it is, although a little trick I did was make the entire first half my own composition. When the chorus hits it should be really obvious what song it is.

Also scrap that whole "sound quality" thing I was talking about earlier. Turns out things will just sound good if I don't suck at mixing. I've had some practice since I was last here and wow I sucked. Of course, I'm still terrible, but better than before at least.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Loose Arrangement #3
Post by: Z_A on November 14, 2017, 02:27:28 AM
At first I thought it was 8bit, but... well... please tell if I am wrong, but is that a square lead?

I really like the chorus, all the instruments sounding together... It's fantastic, actually. The drums seem a bit too synthetic, but that's probably fine, as long as you're okay with it.

As for the first part, which you composed on your own. Why don't you try and make a more exciting rhythm in the lead line?
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Loose Arrangement #3
Post by: GenericArrangements on December 05, 2017, 09:31:38 AM
At first I thought it was 8bit, but... well... please tell if I am wrong, but is that a square lead?
Yep. Square lead. In fact, square waves are the only kind of synth wave used in the arrangement. (I told myself to use more but everything flowed this way)

I really like the chorus, all the instruments sounding together... It's fantastic, actually. The drums seem a bit too synthetic, but that's probably fine, as long as you're okay with it.
Thanks! Also it's an electronic drum kit, and that's intentional.

As for the first part, which you composed on your own. Why don't you try and make a more exciting rhythm in the lead line?
Intentional. I needed the rhythms to be simplistic for... reasons.



It's time I came back. I did say I'd be here monthly (which means i totally rushed this piece lol).

Touhou Medley #1: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-medley-1)

So I tried my hand at this, because I felt like making something actual cool, even though I gave myself the same amount of time as the last one (good going, me). I've never finished a medley, nor have I finished something this long. Nevertheless, here it is. Definitely amateur at some points, but as to be expected from me. I'm no professional lol.

Also in exchange for the lack of the whole "loosely arranged" bit, I made the source of the melodies themselves obscure. This means instead of coming from an official Touhou game, they come from a fan game. I just randomly played this game again and remembered how good the music is.

also this medley really made me realise just how awful the zunpet soundfont from thfont is rip
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Touhou Medley #1
Post by: mads on December 05, 2017, 05:54:16 PM
the new arrange is so upbeat and fun. what fan-game inspired you? I've never actually played any fan games (maybe one or two but never finished.) I don't know much about music but I like what you're doing, and concidering you said you have only been making these for abou 2 years I think you are heading in a really good direction (at least from a visual artist's point of view..?) There's improvement and it's nice to see. Also I think another reason not many people commented on this post is the policy that spammy comments are to be avoided. So just many might not know what to say other then "nice job!" and just won't comment at all. A lot of posts on the entirety of the forum are like that, not that it's a bad thing but something to keep in mind. I'm excited to see maybe a future rendition of UFO's title screen a shadow in the blue sky one day. :~)
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Touhou Medley #1
Post by: GenericArrangements on December 05, 2017, 07:02:24 PM
the new arrange is so upbeat and fun. what fan-game inspired you? I've never actually played any fan games (maybe one or two but never finished.)
I may as well say what it is (because the chances of someone actually knowing it is slim).

Shoot Shoot Nitori, by Twilight Frontier
Originally I was planning on not playing fan games, but the concept behind this one struck me as really fun and it definitely was.

I don't know much about music but I like what you're doing, and concidering you said you have only been making these for abou 2 years I think you are heading in a really good direction (at least from a visual artist's point of view..?) There's improvement and it's nice to see.
Thanks! For my first year I only ever made sheet music but more recently I've been doing a bunch of mixing projects, and that's where I'm probably going to keep heading.

Also I think another reason not many people commented on this post is the policy that spammy comments are to be avoided. So just many might not know what to say other then "nice job!" and just won't comment at all. A lot of posts on the entirety of the forum are like that, not that it's a bad thing but something to keep in mind.
I mean, I don't really mind, but I actually didn't even know or think about that. Interesting.

I'm excited to see maybe a future rendition of UFO's title screen a shadow in the blue sky one day. :~)
That is a very nice song, and one of the best title screen themes in the series. I'll definitely consider it.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Touhou Medley #1
Post by: Z_A on December 05, 2017, 09:20:38 PM
I thought that it did sound very much like Akiyama Uni! So, I guess I was right, then?

Anyway, it's pretty good. What transient mokou said is correct, I'd like to give a more elaborate reply, but that would be quite a challenge. Your stuff is gradually getting better, that's all that can be said.

still hope to see transcriptions from MS and PoFW
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Touhou Medley #1
Post by: GenericArrangements on December 06, 2017, 08:12:09 AM
I thought that it did sound very much like Akiyama Uni! So, I guess I was right, then?
Guess so! I was hoping someone would recognise the compositional style of the melodies by the very least.

Anyway, it's pretty good. What transient mokou said is correct, I'd like to give a more elaborate reply, but that would be quite a challenge. Your stuff is gradually getting better, that's all that can be said.
Thanks!

still hope to see transcriptions from MS and PoFW
Perhaps I'll just throw around sheet music randomly between my monthly mixes (and maybe focus on these games in particular).
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Nothing Right Now, Sorry
Post by: GenericArrangements on January 05, 2018, 11:41:45 AM
It's that time of the month again, except this time I got nothing, so uh...

(https://i.imgur.com/PyT0Vlb.jpg)

Have a crudely-drawn Doremy instead?

I was going to make something related to Doremy because of AoCF, but I kinda got lazy so this is all you get for now lol. I might properly finish the arrangement later, hopefully sooner than next month. In the time it took for me to make this image, I probably could've made that arrangement actually, but oh well. I'm just not in the mood right now I guess.
For future months I plan on making all of my arrangements in a similar fashion for Volume 2 (so "Volumes" can be based on the year instead of pointless separation), but I'm having a hard time figuring out what should connect them all. Important decisions aaah.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Woah, a Faithful Arrangement.
Post by: GenericArrangements on February 05, 2018, 10:27:52 AM
So this time I have something, although it's not too much compared to what I should have in store for the rest of the year.

Faithful Touhou Arrangement #1: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/faithful-touhou-arrangements-stage-1)

I couldn't be bothered to transcribe and add in a bunch of the stuff from the original, so the intro's kinda empty. Also for fun I lowered the arrangement a quartertone like the original.

Right now (and probably for the rest of the year too), I'm mainly focusing on gaining a mixing style (which I can already see getting there), and just getting better at mixing in general (the never-ending journey to making THFont Zunpets sound good). This will start fairly simple, but soon enough you might start to hear some recorded instruments (whenever I get myself to play the violin lol), and more automation for volume/panning/etc. This may result in a lot of less-adventurous arrangements, but I'll try my best to make them unique anyway.

Speaking of mixing, SoundCloud's back at it again with the hi-hats sounding like static. I try to have fun with percussion and SC wants none of it lol.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: An Arrangement
Post by: GenericArrangements on March 05, 2018, 08:42:44 AM
Oh hi.

Arrangement #2: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/sweet-dreams-eternal-spring-dream-arr)

As if I'm actually going to follow patterns. I'll just post whatever the heck I feel like at this point, because I can't get myself to do things for longer than a few weeks. This was something I actually posted for GensokyoFestival (on Tumblr), along with another one I may post some time. Hilariously the sound quality is better on Tumblr than the website dedicated to sharing music. Maybe I should start using Tumblr instead or something idk. I have no idea what purpose I was going for with this arrangement (which is actually a lie, but it's complicated), so I don't really know how to describe this thing well.

Also I actually have the thing intended for today ready, but I just didn't feel like it. More proud of this arrangement (it feels more like my style of music anyway). Maybe I'll post it some time during the month.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Another New and Re-Done Arrangement
Post by: GenericArrangements on April 05, 2018, 11:13:45 AM
I always get amused at the necro-bump warning I always get when doing my monthly post.

Loose Arrangement #1 (Re-Done!): LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-1)
Arrangement #3: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/im-terrible-with-names-egoistic-flowers-arrange)

Because I'm just posting something I made a while ago (also for Gensokyo Festival), I'm also including an updated version of an older arrangement, specifically the first one I posted here. My mixing has... changed quite a bit since I started putting things here so I felt it was something good to do. I didn't just edit that though obviously. I feel like there's still more I could do with it but instrument choice is really hindering me there. As for that new arrangement: I wanted to use more of the brass thing at the start and end, but I ended up only using a clarinet for the main lead. It's just a nice instrument lol.

SoundCloud and its hi-hat quality will forever bother me.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Another New and Re-Done Arrangement
Post by: Sapz on April 05, 2018, 03:04:53 PM
Just to say I enjoyed the arranges although I'm unfamiliar with the originals, and that I completely agree about the hi-hats. I find myself having to double check the original files when I upload things to check they didn't sound like that originally. :V
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Another New and Re-Done Arrangement
Post by: Z_A on April 08, 2018, 07:34:53 AM
Hi again!

Your mixing has improved, I think (not that it wasn't already good to begin with). Still, there is room for further growth. The volume levels are slightly unbalanced between different instruments, also, I would have preferred more use of panning for wider sound (tbh, the Faithful arrangement was way better in those aspects). Maybe you should pay more attention to this sort of thing and not rush your work too much, until everything is perfect. Also, it seems like you are trying to use a broader variety of effects than before, which sounds great, so thank you for that - I really enjoyed listening to both pieces.

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hi-hat quality
So true.

As for the previous piece - Sweet Dreams, was it? What I like most about this arrangement is that it really shows your own unique style. Which you have obviously already developed, not that I am jealous or anything...
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Loose Arrangement #4
Post by: GenericArrangements on May 05, 2018, 12:19:10 PM
I really gotta stop forgetting I exist here, oops. Still got here on time at least.

The volume levels are slightly unbalanced between different instruments, also, I would have preferred more use of panning for wider sound (tbh, the Faithful arrangement was way better in those aspects).
Concerning volume, it's really a thing I'm probably terrible at (because I really like hearing accompaniment layers over melodies sometimes, etc.).
Concerning panning, whether I pan more or not depends on what instruments I have, and how they're used. As for what I just posted, I happened to do some weird panning automation to the piano, among other things. I really should try to add even more layers just for the purpose of spreading the sounds outwards.

Maybe you should pay more attention to this sort of thing and not rush your work too much, until everything is perfect. Also, it seems like you are trying to use a broader variety of effects than before, which sounds great, so thank you for that - I really enjoyed listening to both pieces.
Hehe... rushing work...
I'll be honest, that'll probably be something I'll never stop doing. That's more for personal reasons though.
As for effects, I'm still working on it! Synths in particular always get me. Reverb and Delay is already bad enough, but then there's all this stuff like LFO and filters that I need to get the hang of. It's all so confusing to me right now...
Also glad you liked them!

As for the previous piece - Sweet Dreams, was it? What I like most about this arrangement is that it really shows your own unique style. Which you have obviously already developed, not that I am jealous or anything...
Well... my style is still constantly changing, but I'm noticing some small consistencies here and there I guess. The style for that arrangement was derived from the original idea and my composing ability. No need to be jealous really, haha.

Just to say I enjoyed the arranges although I'm unfamiliar with the originals, and that I completely agree about the hi-hats. I find myself having to double check the original files when I upload things to check they didn't sound like that originally. :V
Glad you enjoyed them!
The hi-hats are actually annoying me so much. As soon as I'm able to make good thumbnails I'm probably getting out of there tbh.



Yeah I was quite close to forgetting my existence here. Blame it on being my last year of high school.

Arrangement #4: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-4)

Been a while since I've finished one of these loose arrangements. This one is by far the most loose, although one particular phrase of the melody is identical to the original (in the middle, when the organ starts). No one would recognise it from just hearing it I don't think (also song choice is to blame, as I didn't exactly pick a "popular" touhou song).
Also I don't know where I was going with this. It's got synth, but the genre leans towards ska, and there's a jazz organ and idk. I didn't give myself a specific genre to work with, which in the end was probably a bad idea, but eh whatever.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Loose Arrangement #5
Post by: GenericArrangements on June 05, 2018, 08:26:01 AM
Good god this privacy error stuff is really getting on my nerves.

Arrangement #5:
 - Loose Touhou Arrangements #5: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-5)

I decided to attempt an arrangement with a specific rhythmic pattern in mind (it should be really obvious when you hear it). It resulted in something quite funky, I have to say. I did also mess around further with ensembles. I'm quite happy with how this one turned out.

I may as well say that this particular idea of writing music based on a rhythmic pattern is influenced by a rhythm game series known as "Rhythm Heaven", which is great and you should all try it. Definitely not your ordinary rhythm game, and has great music.

Obligatory "Grr... hi-hats..." comment.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Loose Arrangement #6
Post by: GenericArrangements on July 05, 2018, 09:45:30 AM
It's that time yet again.

Arrangement #6: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-6) DRUMKIT (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-6-drumkit-version)

This time I have two versions of what is pretty much the same thing (one just has a drumkit beat and is slightly faster, with its existence being for personal reasons too complicated to explain). It's the second time I've dealt with an orchestral ensemble (the first being a composition of mine which went much better), but this use of it is greatly different to a more traditional orchestration. Dabbling into different ensembles is something I enjoy. The arrangement itself is of two pieces, one is a very straightforward arrangement, the other... not so much, though it's very, very recognisable anyway.

hi-hat

I'm going to very busy in the next few months (up until November 1, when I'm completely free), so I can't confirm if monthly uploads will still be a thing during then (unless I can just post some of my interpretation arrangements instead, because those could easily get me through those few months).
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Arrangement #7
Post by: GenericArrangements on September 05, 2018, 08:56:12 AM
Oops, I missed last month. I was busy.

Arrangement #7: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-7)

Really, if I had something else to post (that I was particularly fond of at the moment), I'd post that instead. Unfortunately, I'm very busy, and that's how it's going to be for the next few months.

This is an actual 2A03 chiptune piece (I use FamiTracker for this stuff). I don't believe I've posted one here yet, but uh... yeah. Here's one. Part of the original piece gave me Mega Man vibes (or at least had good opportunities to fiddle with it so that it'd work), so I messed around and got this. Again, not overly spectacular, but it's fine for now.

Hopefully I'll be able to get something more out next time, but really I should be putting my focus into other places right now (and my ability to focus is atrocious lol). Maybe don't expect anything within the next few months (until about December or so), though I never stick to what I say, so actually I'd recommend not trying to expect things... not that... anyone was anyway lol.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Arrangement #7
Post by: Z_A on September 15, 2018, 10:06:05 AM
I didn't comment much on your pieces of late, but I probably should. It's actually... well, okay, I'll try to be honest)

#4 is very very good (I do like ska music, like I've said before), the only thing lacking is length: the piece is way too short and the expectations were high (=

#5... funky, very nice! However, between 0:37 and 0:50 the high-pitched synth doesn't do the trick: this part seems a bit empty-ish. The rest is okay though, great job!

#6 OMG OMG I LOVE BOTH PIECES THAT YOU USED but... well... you certainly modified them (but not too much: the Alice's theme is very close to the original, actually), but was the change for the better? I think the original Flowering Night is very good as it is, hence it requires some exceptionally great musical ideas at least not to make a worse arrangement compared to the original, let alone a better one. Your interpretation of the piece is okay, hopefully it represents your vision, but I still prefer the original.

Also, the "Drumkit version" is better.

#7 oh THAT rocks! I'm gonna analyze the piece to learn what I did wrong about Yuuka's theme. This also inspired me to download the Famitracker, but it's kinda complicated... maybe I'll try it someday, HertzDevil is cool and I want to be like him when I grow up etc.

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not that... anyone was anyway lol.
Oh please don't be like that, I like what you're doing and you know I follow your work closely to maybe get some hints on how to become a better arranger myself. Anyway... please focus on what's important right now, the arrangements can wait. All your fans, me included, can wait too.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Arrangement #7
Post by: GenericArrangements on September 16, 2018, 01:42:04 AM
#4 is very very good (I do like ska music, like I've said before), the only thing lacking is length: the piece is way too short and the expectations were high (=
Thanks! I love ska music myself, and actually am not too proud of this particular arrangement, though it's more about the mixing than anything. It's short for... "reasons" but I could make an extended version one day.

#5... funky, very nice! However, between 0:37 and 0:50 the high-pitched synth doesn't do the trick: this part seems a bit empty-ish. The rest is okay though, great job!
This one's actually my favourite, enough so that I actually have a modified version on me (which adds a guitar layer and uses the baritone saxophones more, as well as changes to percussion sounds), but I'll post that when I feel it's done. The guitar should fill in enough sound in the section you mentioned.

#6 OMG OMG I LOVE BOTH PIECES THAT YOU USED
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.

but... well... you certainly modified them (but not too much: the Alice's theme is very close to the original, actually), but was the change for the better? I think the original Flowering Night is very good as it is, hence it requires some exceptionally great musical ideas at least not to make a worse arrangement compared to the original, let alone a better one. Your interpretation of the piece is okay, hopefully it represents your vision, but I still prefer the original.
This particular idea is something I consider every so often. In the end, I don't make arrangements in an attempt to be better than the original (because that's kinda hard for most of them). I usually make arrangements to give a new flavour to the melodies. My use of Flowering Night here was just because I needed a good chorus section, styling the whole thing like Rhythm Heaven music, as well as... "reasons" (again), and overall it's got a very different vibe to it, not really trying to be better than the original.

Also, the "Drumkit version" is better.
Yeah.

#7 oh THAT rocks!
Thanks again!

I'm gonna analyze the piece to learn what I did wrong about Yuuka's theme.
The thing here is that I felt your arrangement of Yuuka's theme was meant to be of a different style of rock. As much as there are elements you can use from here, there's plenty of things that won't work, and things you'll have to come up with yourself/research with similar kinds of rock. Particularly try looking for rock pieces in 3/4, as well as maybe rock solos.
I'll usually try to give (slightly shoddy) advice when you post things.

This also inspired me to download the Famitracker, but it's kinda complicated... maybe I'll try it someday, HertzDevil is cool and I want to be like him when I grow up etc.
Oh yeah, Famitracker is really hard to get used to, but really fun when you get the hang of it. Just keep trying and maybe check out a few tutorials and sample projects.

-----Oh please don't be like that, I like what you're doing and you know I follow your work closely to maybe get some hints on how to become a better arranger myself. Anyway... please focus on what's important right now, the arrangements can wait. All your fans, me included, can wait too.
...yeah I often pretend like I'm just throwing things at the wall with no one watching. It just boggles my mind that people actually listen to my silly things.
Also yeah, I'll be focusing on that stuff (which I have), though in pretty much all of my free time I've been making music anyway, so there may still be monthly stuff after all.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Arrangement #8
Post by: GenericArrangements on October 05, 2018, 09:17:46 AM
I mean I know I said that I probably wouldn't post something but then I later said that I would so idk here's something:

Arrangement #8: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-8)

I also said it would be stuff lying around (or at least that could be inferred), so here's this thing. Just me messing with orchestral ensembles again. It's actually the result of not achieving my initial goal but sticking with it anyway so it's not amazingly substantial. It is one of my longer works though, considering I usually never go over 3 minutes.

Maybe next month I'll have something of a more interesting nature, though I'd only have about 4 days of free time for it.



Also it has always occurred to me that I should be actually saying what the arrangement is of - if it's not meant to be a "challenge" to figure it out - but I never do it.

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something something PC98 Makai always felt more intense than PC98 Hell.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Arrangement #8
Post by: Z_A on October 05, 2018, 10:59:30 AM
This is nice, a film score-like thingie, I only think that the main rhythm pattern lasts too long and it would be best to introduce the change sooner. Putting that aside, a rather high-quality work.

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Also it has always occurred to me that I should be actually saying what the arrangement is of
You probably should, because of copyright issues, though I don't think ZUN will find out any time soon.

Also, it's been bothering me for a while, so: is Akiyama Uni okay with using his works just like ZUN? Since, uh, they are different people and TasoFro and Team Shanghai Alice are different organizations, and maybe have a different opinion about it...

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I don't make arrangements in an attempt to be better than the original (because that's kinda hard for most of them). I usually make arrangements to give a new flavour to the melodies.
I started thinking about it as well, so here's what I figured: it's probably not really about which is "better" or which is "worse", but maybe something about finding "undiscovered potential" in a song? For example, Complete Darkness is already amazing as it is, and it has fully discovered its potential, so an arrangement is really out of question, and even though it's chiptune-like, the best that can be done is changing the instruments only a little, while staying as close to the original as possible. Flowering Night (from Phantasmagoria) does indeed have some potential, but most of it has already been discovered in the most popular arrangements, the Akiyama's version from SWR and in the Night of Nights, so like I said, it requires an exceptionally great idea to make a proper arrangement. The idea, as in finding something about the song that, when brought forth in an arrangement, would illuminate it from a different angle, and make it sparkle with fresh meanings like a new thing (wow... such metaphors...). Like what I tried to do with Yuuka's theme: IMO, it has great potential as a rock piece, that noone else hears (well... at least some people don't), and so I tried to show it from that perspective. I think I figured at least some of the problems with my arrangement, so I'll post a fixed version eventually, but that's a thing to be discussed in my thread, not yours =P most of your arrangements do have this "fresh meaning", so yeah, great job!
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Arrangement #8
Post by: GenericArrangements on October 06, 2018, 06:52:18 AM
This is nice, a film score-like thingie, I only think that the main rhythm pattern lasts too long and it would be best to introduce the change sooner. Putting that aside, a rather high-quality work.
Thanks! I agree, that rhythm lasts too long, but I was lazy, and it's usually how you artificially lengthen a piece in the first place (lol).

You probably should, because of copyright issues, though I don't think ZUN will find out any time soon.
Copyright is less of an issue here, as ZUN doesn't really care as long as I'm not making money off of it in digital downloads or something (like heck will I being doing that anytime soon anyway). I'm not claiming these tracks to be mine, as they're explicitly titled "arrangements", though maybe some more crediting would be good. My concern really was the people at MotK not knowing what was here lol.

Also, it's been bothering me for a while, so: is Akiyama Uni okay with using his works just like ZUN? Since, uh, they are different people and TasoFro and Team Shanghai Alice are different organizations, and maybe have a different opinion about it...
Given that people arrange the fighting game soundtracks a decent bit, I'd assume U2 is just as fine about it as ZUN is.

I started thinking about it as well, so here's what I figured: it's probably not really about which is "better" or which is "worse", but maybe something about finding "undiscovered potential" in a song? For example, Complete Darkness is already amazing as it is, and it has fully discovered its potential, so an arrangement is really out of question, and even though it's chiptune-like, the best that can be done is changing the instruments only a little, while staying as close to the original as possible. Flowering Night (from Phantasmagoria) does indeed have some potential, but most of it has already been discovered in the most popular arrangements, the Akiyama's version from SWR and in the Night of Nights, so like I said, it requires an exceptionally great idea to make a proper arrangement. The idea, as in finding something about the song that, when brought forth in an arrangement, would illuminate it from a different angle, and make it sparkle with fresh meanings like a new thing (wow... such metaphors...). Like what I tried to do with Yuuka's theme: IMO, it has great potential as a rock piece, that noone else hears (well... at least some people don't), and so I tried to show it from that perspective. I think I figured at least some of the problems with my arrangement, so I'll post a fixed version eventually, but that's a thing to be discussed in my thread, not yours =P most of your arrangements do have this "fresh meaning", so yeah, great job!
Mm yeah it's really about that different angle. I do often consider the undiscovered potential in certain pieces though, such as hearing a piece and thinking it'd sound better in a different genre (like you with Yuuka's theme) or how a certain part would've sounded better with a different instrument, sparking a whole new arrangement, etc. Often this undiscovered potential can come entirely from viewing it in an completely new angle (hence why I'm particularly fond of "Loose Arrangement #1", among others) and sometimes you can just throw it in somewhere and realise it works nicely with whatever you're doing. My personal ideology is to arrange for the sake of arranging, and making something unique (ish).
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Arrangement #9
Post by: GenericArrangements on November 05, 2018, 09:59:00 AM
So this is a very weird one.

Touhou Arrangement #9: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/touhou-arrangement-9)

It's based on this one minigame from a rhythm game so it's entirely based around call and response ideas. Try tapping to the rhythm actually.
The original melodies are particularly prominent in certain sections at least. Had to do that otherwise it'd just be a complete knock-off anyway.
Also the two lead instruments should make it somewhat obvious what piece it's an arrangement of.

I've been researching and experimenting quite a bit with mixing recently. In particular, I've been looking at stuff related with EQ and making mixes sound clearer (and good through small speakers, though that really hasn't been working out). It's interesting stuff, but really it's also complicated and confuses me a lot, and I'm still not very good at making certain things sound comfortable.

I have no real plans for anything right now, but with an abundance of time I can make things to a higher standard (maybe).
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: A Loose Arrangement #3 - Remastered
Post by: GenericArrangements on December 05, 2018, 10:16:50 AM
Once again, I arrive to throw notes at the wall. For the last update to his thread for this year, I've rushed something last minute once again, and made a remastered version of an older arrangement of mine.

A Loose Arrangement #3 - Remastered: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/a-loose-touhou-arrangement-3-remastered)

...I guess it's more of a "remake".

I've been improving a lot in my mixing and arranging and have wanted to take another shot at this one for quite a long time now. Didn't expect myself to rush it so much though lol. I've spent the last two hours repeatedly exporting it to make sure it sounded nice for the upload. Part of it is still... yeah, but at least it's more comfortable and I guess more professional than my older mixes.

The arrangement itself had much room for improvement, as it was very empty originally. The original mix also made everything incredibly quiet too (a result of a bad synthesiser). Hopefully all of that stuff has been improved.

I always give myself plans for long projects and while I might be able to do one next year, nothing is guaranteed. I can't even get myself to post anywhere else, haha. It'd be fun to be a prominent music circle in the western Touhou fandom, so maybe if I can throw myself out there more I could get somewhere with that.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: A Loose Arrangement #3 - Remastered
Post by: Z_A on December 05, 2018, 03:11:11 PM
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Also the two lead instruments should make it somewhat obvious what piece it's an arrangement of.
Ohhh. I see what you did there, mister. Good one.

Although I doubt many people here would easily recognize the sound of koto.
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I've been looking at stuff related with EQ and making mixes sound clearer (and good through small speakers, though that really hasn't been working out). It's interesting stuff, but really it's also complicated and confuses me a lot, and I'm still not very good at making certain things sound comfortable.
EQ is nice, just be careful and don't overdo it. In case you're still using sf2 like I do, it's very easy to make the sound even worse and more unnatural than it already is.
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Try tapping to the rhythm actually.
Tried it, didn't like it. The rhythm is very simple. Sorry. It's a nice arrangement in general, however, and in your own style.
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For the last update to his thread for this year
I'm kinda looking forward to your first post of the next year on the 5th of January =P
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I've spent the last two hours repeatedly exporting it to make sure it sounded nice for the upload.
Yeah, that happens occasionally. If it's really bad, try reducing the resample rate - that helped me a few times.
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Hopefully all of that stuff has been improved.
Most certainly it has. I think you are paying much more attention to the balance between instruments volume now, in particular.

I like your drums very much. We could probably make a great arrangers duo =3 wanna try making a collaboration or something? Also, I'd be a bit happier if you didn't ignore my PMs. :smokedcheese:
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I can't even get myself to post anywhere else, haha. It'd be fun to be a prominent music circle in the western Touhou fandom, so maybe if I can throw myself out there more I could get somewhere with that.
Please tell me if you decide something, because I as well would like to promote my works a bit more, as this forum is cool and everything, but a bit too quiet, especially in regards to music feedback >_<
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: A Loose Arrangement #3 - Remastered
Post by: GenericArrangements on December 05, 2018, 10:54:25 PM
Although I doubt many people here would easily recognize the sound of koto.
I think the biwa is less recognisable.

EQ is nice, just be careful and don't overdo it. In case you're still using sf2 like I do, it's very easy to make the sound even worse and more unnatural than it already is.
Yeah it's an unfortunate side-effect of EQ, though it can actually be used like that intentionally.
I read that apparently it's normal for the instrument to stop sounding good on its own after applying the correct amount of EQ, it's just that it will work better in the mix. That's probably for people who spend days working on the mix though, and I'm lazy, haha.

I'm kinda looking forward to your first post of the next year on the 5th of January =P
Dunno if it'll be anything particularly exciting.

Yeah, that happens occasionally. If it's really bad, try reducing the resample rate - that helped me a few times.
Actually my resample rate is always abysmally low, which I figured was the cause, though maybe it is the contrary.

Most certainly it has. I think you are paying much more attention to the balance between instruments volume now, in particular.
Woot!

I like your drums very much. We could probably make a great arrangers duo =3 wanna try making a collaboration or something?
That'd be something interesting and fun to do! Never worked on a collaboration before though.

Also, I'd be a bit happier if you didn't ignore my PMs. :smokedcheese:
aaah sorry! It's just that usually I don't have much to add... I read them, but often don't know what else to say (that or sometimes I procrastinate and never get around to it. I also don't check this site regularly so PMs going completely over my head sound likely).

Please tell me if you decide something, because I as well would like to promote my works a bit more, as this forum is cool and everything, but a bit too quiet, especially in regards to music feedback >_<
Was planning on it! Still no idea where to go though...
And yeah, I don't think the Art Atelier has been in its heyday for a long while now.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: A Loose Arrangement #3 - Remastered
Post by: Z_A on December 21, 2018, 02:31:12 PM
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Yeah it's an unfortunate side-effect of EQ, though it can actually be used like that intentionally.
I read that apparently it's normal for the instrument to stop sounding good on its own after applying the correct amount of EQ, it's just that it will work better in the mix.
I've learned about that too when I was studying EQ on the Internet, but the lessons that I was watching were strongly related to the actual "authentic" electronic music, while I prefer my arrangements to sound like they could at least theoretically be performed on real instruments (well, except for the sawtooth synth).

Even so, I started using EQ and compression while I was struggling to properly mix the Headless Hunter - that early =P this stuff really helps in many situations. Even when using only sf2 sounds. Moderation is still the key though.
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That's probably for people who spend days working on the mix though
Actually, that would be me! yaay
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Actually my resample rate is always abysmally low, which I figured was the cause, though maybe it is the contrary.
If you get random inconsistencies in your mix after rendering that are impossible to explain otherwise (not clipping etc), then it's probably some hardware or software problem - the soundboard or the driver. In that case, reducing the resample rate would allow your system to handle the rendering more easily, and the probabilty of errors decreases.

...is how I explain it to myself :smokedcheese:
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I've spent the last two hours repeatedly exporting it to make sure it sounded nice for the upload.
Lucky you, it generally takes about that long to render a track of mine only once.
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That'd be something interesting and fun to do! Never worked on a collaboration before though.
Neither have I, but I have a feeling that it's worth a shot.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: A Loose Arrangement #3 - Remastered
Post by: GenericArrangements on January 05, 2019, 11:06:04 AM
I've learned about that too when I was studying EQ on the Internet, but the lessons that I was watching were strongly related to the actual "authentic" electronic music, while I prefer my arrangements to sound like they could at least theoretically be performed on real instruments (well, except for the sawtooth synth).

Even so, I started using EQ and compression while I was struggling to properly mix the Headless Hunter - that early =P this stuff really helps in many situations. Even when using only sf2 sounds. Moderation is still the key though.
As I've found out, messing with EQ is super important for any kind of instrument you're using. Most instruments are high-passed, some instruments sound better low-passed, etc. It all depends on the instrument and how everything works in the mix, to ensure you aren't clogging up certain frequencies.

If you get random inconsistencies in your mix after rendering that are impossible to explain otherwise (not clipping etc), then it's probably some hardware or software problem - the soundboard or the driver. In that case, reducing the resample rate would allow your system to handle the rendering more easily, and the probabilty of errors decreases.

...is how I explain it to myself :smokedcheese:
Well, that's one possible explanation!

Lucky you, it generally takes about that long to render a track of mine only once.
Ouch. I just use low quality settings to avoid rendering times longer than 2 minutes, haha.

Neither have I, but I have a feeling that it's worth a shot.
Would be interesting!
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Introducing Volume 3! (ft. "Backup Dancers")
Post by: GenericArrangements on January 05, 2019, 11:28:42 AM
Here we are. The first arrangement of 2019. It's nothing any fancier than normal though lol.

Track 1: Backup Dancers: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/track-1-backup-dancers)

Really showing off some EQ stuff in here. You can quite clearly hear the clarinet being high-passed, and the organ low-passed, and I like how that works (though it makes the saxophones in the middle alternate timbre, which is a bit weird). Still happy with how it feels.

Jazz as always been my best genre for arranging, so I'm glad to be showing that off for my first piece of the year. Really messed around with the B-section melody, and decided to compose the C-section for that good (abridged) rondo structure. Had to hold myself back with the drumlines though, after receiving feedback in the past that my drum fills are too complicated for the role the drums are meant to serve. I just really like writing drumlines it seems, haha.

Anyway, this year I'm going to be actually naming the arrangements (sort of). Just nice, simple names, but names that give people a little more reason to (or not to) listen to it (as now they can actually know what it's an arrangement of lol).
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Introducing Volume 3! (ft. "Backup Dancers")
Post by: Z_A on January 05, 2019, 07:52:09 PM
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Here we are. The first arrangement of 2019. It's nothing any fancier than normal though lol.
!!!!!!!!!

This is your best arrangement so far. I love it!
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Jazz as always been my best genre for arranging
I guess you do need a musical education or something to properly understand what is jazz and what isn't. I, for one, still suck at differentiating those things.
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Really messed around with the B-section melody, and decided to compose the C-section for that good (abridged) rondo structure.
Can't understand a word there =D
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I just really like writing drumlines it seems, haha.
You just really do, and that's amazing imo!
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Track 2: Strange Techno Discourse
Post by: GenericArrangements on February 05, 2019, 10:57:45 AM
Whoops. I did that thing again where I don't respond to anything for a month. Apologies.



!!!!!!!!!

This is your best arrangement so far. I love it!
Thanks! Glad you liked it.

I guess you do need a musical education or something to properly understand what is jazz and what isn't. I, for one, still suck at differentiating those things.
Often the umbrella term "jazz" works for a lot of things so even if you're not sure it probably has "jazz flavours". "Jazz" itself isn't a single definable genre and "jazzy" doesn't mean anything in a technical sense (well, a musical elitist would probably get annoyed at people saying "jazzy"), but because a lot of tracks tend to have little jazz elements you may as well just call them all as "having jazzy flavours", for example.
That arrangement is just straight big-band jazz though, haha.

Can't understand a word there =D
The rondo form is structured as "ABACA", where a particular section may be repeated 3 times throughout the entire work, with the other two sections usually more contrasting.

You just really do, and that's amazing imo!
Glad you enjoy them. Maybe I should try for something more drum focused in the near future.



Now for the music, because I feel like putting this all in one post.

Track 2: Strange Techno Discourse: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/track-2-strange-techno-discourse)

The second arrangement of 2019 is... a fixed-up arrangement from 2018. whoops
I ran a little out of time and with a certain event coming up I've been saving a few arrangement choices for later (March). That being said, I was mainly distracted by my shift to life on-campus at a university (happening in the very near future), along with my own compositions taking a hold of me for a little while. So what we have here is something I EQ'd up ready to go.

For whatever reason, the Jigoku Route music in HRtP is much more chill than the Makai Route, which led me to make a silly headcanon that non-residential parts of PC98's Hell is actually quite relaxed. So, I made this, despite uh... not knowing anything about this genre of music. That was back then. I still don't know. Sounds groovy though, I think. Maybe someone with more experience in whatever this is could roast me about how bad it is tell me if it's in any right direction.

If I'm able to stick to my plans (unlikely), I'll have something fresh for March.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Track 2: Strange Techno Discourse
Post by: Z_A on February 05, 2019, 02:51:18 PM
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Often the umbrella term "jazz" works for a lot of things so even if you're not sure it probably has "jazz flavours". "Jazz" itself isn't a single definable genre and "jazzy" doesn't mean anything in a technical sense (well, a musical elitist would probably get annoyed at people saying "jazzy"), but because a lot of tracks tend to have little jazz elements you may as well just call them all as "having jazzy flavours", for example.
That arrangement is just straight big-band jazz though, haha.
Still... Is jazz about some composition patterns? Or song structure? Instruments used? Performing techniques? I can understand swing (swing is cool by the way, I like how you used it), and I know that a band playing jazz typically includes a drummer, a bassist (guitar or upright), often a guitar and a piano player, and some brass/wind. Also it seems they like crazy solos and some very high-tension harmonies. But... does any of this really define jazz as a genre? Or is there more?
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The rondo form is structured as "ABACA", where a particular section may be repeated 3 times throughout the entire work, with the other two sections usually more contrasting.
I see. Indeed, this is significally different from the more common "verse against chorus" structure(-s).
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Maybe I should try for something more drum focused in the near future.
Only if you are willing to ^_^ it's actually rather pleasant to hear such thought-through drum lines in songs that would stand out much less otherwise (like your #7, for instance).
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with a certain event coming up I've been saving a few arrangement choices for later (March)
Oooh, is that something Touhou arrangers participate in? Can I join?
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So, I made this, despite uh... not knowing anything about this genre of music. That was back then. I still don't know. Sounds groovy though, I think. Maybe someone with more experience in whatever this is could roast me about how bad it is tell me if it's in any right direction.
I'm not that sort of person, but I've got nothing to complain about: this arrangement somehow reminds me of my own Pristine Lead, although I doubt that it had any substantial influence on your work (since you say it's an older piece).

But then again, at least now I can more or less determine the genre that I sometimes create arrangements in XD techno, huh...
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That being said, I was mainly distracted by my shift to life on-campus at a university (happening in the very near future), along with my own compositions taking a hold of me for a little while.
If I'm able to stick to my plans (unlikely), I'll have something fresh for March.
I wish you the best of luck, like usual.

PS:
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along with my own compositions taking a hold of me for a little while.
Any chance for us to hear them?
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Track 2: Strange Techno Discourse
Post by: GenericArrangements on February 05, 2019, 09:38:23 PM
Still... Is jazz about some composition patterns? Or song structure? Instruments used? Performing techniques? I can understand swing (swing is cool by the way, I like how you used it), and I know that a band playing jazz typically includes a drummer, a bassist (guitar or upright), often a guitar and a piano player, and some brass/wind. Also it seems they like crazy solos and some very high-tension harmonies. But... does any of this really define jazz as a genre? Or is there more?
Jazz is really just a very large set of subgenres that tend to have some similar compositional ideas. What typically defines any level of jazz is the composition ideas that come with it, then often the ensemble becomes important too. Structure usually doesn't mean much (you can have it freeform or verse-bridge-chorus, but it'll still be jazz), but there are certain performance techniques intended for jazz pieces, and often there's a solo section. Really it's a loose term that only refers to small or significant parts of any piece of music.

I see. Indeed, this is significally different from the more common "verse against chorus" structure(-s).
It's a structure commonly found in ragtime pieces, which means it's an older one meant for solo performances (of course that's not what I used it for here, but I never really follow rules or anything like that lol).

Only if you are willing to ^_^ it's actually rather pleasant to hear such thought-through drum lines in songs that would stand out much less otherwise (like your #7, for instance).
I've spent a disproportionate amount of time trying to understand drumlines and I've gotten to a point where I don't really think about them much but I can imagine what would vaguely sound nice in particular parts.
it's actually a slight problem because i'm taking focus away from where it should be in a piece (usually)

Oooh, is that something Touhou arrangers participate in? Can I join?
It's this (https://gensokyofestival.tumblr.com/post/182453275509/welcome-to-gensokyo-festival-2019) on Tumblr, which means uh... I'd have to start posting on Tumblr, which I usually wouldn't do but publicity is nice I guess (also that website manages to have audio streaming so we wouldn't have to post things to soundcloud first and ruin the quality).

I'm not that sort of person, but I've got nothing to complain about: this arrangement somehow reminds me of my own Pristine Lead, although I doubt that it had any substantial influence on your work (since you say it's an older piece).
I think a few instruments are similar yeah, like the organ. Very different tone though, haha.

But then again, at least now I can more or less determine the genre that I sometimes create arrangements in XD techno, huh...
Well I just put a blanket term on lol.

I wish you the best of luck, like usual.
Thanks!

PS: Any chance for us to hear them?
I don't really feel the need to post them (I usually spend more time making full arrangements of Touhou pieces anyway) but if there's a demand maybe I'll figure something out.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Track 2: Strange Techno Discourse
Post by: thehelmetguy1 on February 07, 2019, 01:31:36 PM
These are really good! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Track 2: Strange Techno Discourse
Post by: Z_A on February 16, 2019, 05:09:45 AM
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Jazz is really just a very large set of subgenres that tend to have some similar compositional ideas. What typically defines any level of jazz is the composition ideas that come with it, then often the ensemble becomes important too. Structure usually doesn't mean much (you can have it freeform or verse-bridge-chorus, but it'll still be jazz), but there are certain performance techniques intended for jazz pieces, and often there's a solo section. Really it's a loose term that only refers to small or significant parts of any piece of music.
Cool! Gotta read some more, but I think I'm starting to understand.
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I've spent a disproportionate amount of time trying to understand drumlines and I've gotten to a point where I don't really think about them much but I can imagine what would vaguely sound nice in particular parts.
it's actually a slight problem because i'm taking focus away from where it should be in a piece (usually)
Hmm I kinda have an idea. Check the PM.
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It's this on Tumblr, which means uh... I'd have to start posting on Tumblr, which I usually wouldn't do but publicity is nice I guess (also that website manages to have audio streaming so we wouldn't have to post things to soundcloud first and ruin the quality).
Uhh... does it actually mean I need to come up with new arrangements for the event specifically? Or can I post some of my older stuff that fits the topic?
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I think a few instruments are similar yeah, like the organ. Very different tone though, haha.
I'd like to mention that I recognized the tune from listening to A-One and the Odyssey eurobeat arrangement, cos I'm in the dark about HRtP music. Anyway, I'd say there are also some similarities in certain lines, but only stylistically (which makes sense if those arrangements indeed share the genre).
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I don't really feel the need to post them (I usually spend more time making full arrangements of Touhou pieces anyway) but if there's a demand maybe I'll figure something out.
I see. They are likely not mixed =D you don't need if you don't want to, I was just being curious.
Title: Re: [Music] GenericArrangements' Music: Track 3: Lonely Night ~ Illusionary Nigh
Post by: GenericArrangements on March 06, 2019, 10:26:33 AM
These are really good! Keep up the good work!
Thanks!

Hmm I kinda have an idea. Check the PM.
I tried to send a message back but it said the user couldn't receive PMs...

Uhh... does it actually mean I need to come up with new arrangements for the event specifically? Or can I post some of my older stuff that fits the topic?
Nah just post whatever (old or new). I haven't actually posted anything myself yet but this arrangement I'm posting below will be one of them.

I'd like to mention that I recognized the tune from listening to A-One and the Odyssey eurobeat arrangement, cos I'm in the dark about HRtP music. Anyway, I'd say there are also some similarities in certain lines, but only stylistically (which makes sense if those arrangements indeed share the genre).
HRtP has a few really nice tracks, so I recommend giving a few of them a listen.

I see. They are likely not mixed =D you don't need if you don't want to, I was just being curious.
Well... yes. Mostly, anyway. I don't tend to mix my most recent things and by the time I want to post them, it's been long enough to where I start complaining about the mixing again. So in the end the only compositions that make it out are the parts of Touhou arrangements that are compositions.



Anyway... I'm a day late. I'll just blame it on February for only having 28 days :P :

Track 3: Lonely Night ~ Illusionary Night: LINK (https://soundcloud.com/user-774048931/track-3-lonely-night-illusionary-night)

It's more jazz, but it's chill jazz this time. A genre of jazz I actually haven't touched, like, at all.
Illusionary Night is one of those themes where I regard them as one of the best for their stage (in this case, Stage 1), but I almost never listen to it. Really, this is the case for a lot of Imperishable Night's soundtrack, because I really just don't listen to it (except for about 3 tracks, which I occasionally come back to). It's a very nice track though, and so I felt like arranging it (along with being prompted "Night" lol).
I wanted to produce a tone fitting of the night time, so that hi-hat rhythm happened and everything else fell into place (sort-of. Working with that C section before the last chorus was rather tricky, and changing the chords for the chorus itself was a bit of a challenge too). I usually make very energetic pieces, or pieces with emphasised beats, so this felt like a nice change of pace.

Hopefully next month I'll be on time... Once again, apologies for that.