Author Topic: Magical Madness Mafia 2, The Horrible Finish (Mod and Scum lose) (Read 114380 times)

Serela · « **Reply #960 on:** October 08, 2012, 09:52:55 PM »

We don't know if Rawr's role is even messing things up or not. As it clearly didn't activate ActionDan's thing. Although I guess everyone would have to see Dan was dead for that to... ugh I don't want to get into this.

But I guess it could explain both of the things? >_>

Zakeri's role could possibly have just failed by the english instead of japanese part because it's painfully specific like that apparently, and Hero can't watch someone who's dead I guess?

If we're not paying attention to roles I'd still lynch Hero. Then Bard, or Shadoweh.

Although at this point, even I'm kind of not having fun today anymore. That like, never happens. I'm always the happy upbeat person who only rages for a couple seconds and is back to enjoying things. Right now all we're doing is tripping over ourselves and our roles.

I have no name · « **Reply #961 on:** October 08, 2012, 09:56:57 PM »

Role madness is fine.

This game sort of brought it too far.

Hero, if your listing is correct then Bard/Chaotick scumteam.

Serela: we are NOT lynching Shadoweh. bard is fine I guess but still prefer Hero.

Raikaria · « **Reply #962 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:01:19 PM »

Somehow that is the first mention of Chatoik we've had all of this day. I almost forgot he was still alive.

Bardiche · « **Reply #963 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:03:13 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on October 08, 2012, 09:56:57 PM

Hero, if your listing is correct then Bard/Chaotick scumteam.

That doesn't make sense. Raikari is still possibly Scum. Just because Shadoweh can neigbourise doesn't mean the recipient (or sender!) is guaranteed to be Town. Shadoweh's lurk and non-participation don't qualify to justify the extreme lack of content and devotion to non-existence.

I have no name · « **Reply #964 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:04:38 PM »

Quote from: Bardiche on October 08, 2012, 10:03:13 PM

That doesn't make sense. Raikari is still possibly Scum. Just because Shadoweh can neigbourise doesn't mean the recipient (or sender!) is guaranteed to be Town. Shadoweh's lurk and non-participation don't qualify to justify the extreme lack of content and devotion to non-existence.

Well that's off my reads which could obviously be wrong but the roles are making my brain melt.

Bardiche · « **Reply #965 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:08:29 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on October 08, 2012, 10:04:38 PM

Well that's off my reads which could obviously be wrong but the roles are making my brain melt.

Then stop seeing Raikaria and Shadoweh as confirmed Town because Shadoweh took actions which Raikaria successfully received. We've seen no content from Shadoweh that indicates she is her usual Townie self, and Raikaria should not be confirmed as Town simply for having received Shadoweh's role action.

Even Scum could be made into a Lover with a Townie if Raikaria's claim is right, and even Scum could Loverise a Townie. Do not assume role equals alignment.

Hero999 · « **Reply #966 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:09:37 PM »

By virtue of reactions and newbattempt, I would cross of Chaotick from scum...
By virtue of Raitaki trying to use Bardiche to subtly kill Raikaria, I would cross him off from scum...
By virtue of being used by Raitaki, I would cross Bardiche off from scum...

@IHNN: By your reasons sure, by my reasons however I...thefux...
My list ends with Serela and Shadoweh, nothing really stands out for a reason to cut them off from scum at the moment.

I also listed roles and I have a grasp of everyone except Raikaria and Chaotick.

Hero999 · « **Reply #967 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:10:39 PM »

Wait, I don't have Bardiches either.
derp

I have no name · « **Reply #968 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:10:51 PM »

I'm not assuming roles=alignment. I've read Raikaria as town all game, and have a very solid reason to think Shadoweh town.

Serela · « **Reply #969 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:13:55 PM »

Bard is right about the Shadoweh being very not-looking-townie thing >_> The only reason right now to believe she isn't would be the modvote thing. But her play is horrendous.

IHNN, what's the reason? Tell us. Seriously.

I have a town read on Raikaria apart from the shadoweh stuff so not very interested in her.

I have no name · « **Reply #970 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:21:20 PM »

because, being PX, I remember bits of the roles and have cop powers :V

Yes I rolled cop again :getdown:

I got a town result on Shadoweh last night and seeing as the scum godfather is dead I'm inclined to trust that result.

So, scumteam, I leave you an ultimatum. Do you let the essentially confirmed town cop live knowing you can quickhammer should it come to LyLo, or kill me tonight?

Serela · « **Reply #971 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:24:55 PM »

oh my god.

Well.

What's your N1 result?

I vaguely recall you saying I was town for some reason, but that might have been Raikaria or something.

I have no name · « **Reply #972 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:28:34 PM »

ActionDan=town, but his play and claim was so bad I assumed there was interference of some sort (Tailor, godfather or something).

N2 as a joke I sent in a message to cop myself :V :V :V

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #973 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:30:02 PM »

Impossible, you could not target actiondan d1

Bardiche · « **Reply #974 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:30:24 PM »

Quote from: Dr Rawr on October 08, 2012, 10:30:02 PM

Impossible, you could not target actiondan d1

Serela · « **Reply #975 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:32:34 PM »

Raikaria and Chaotick are the only ones who haven't claimed, right?

For the sake of ease of remembering

1) Dr. Rawr - Kill/reviver whatever
3) IHNN - Hated Miller Cop who is softconfirmed as town by scum godfather death flavor (rofl best role)
4) Shadoweh - Lover-maker (confirmed town)
6) Raikaria -

?

Bardiche - I forget, someone remind me
9) Hero999 - Watcher/Tracker
10) Serela - Roleblock prevention
12) SirChaotick -

?
13) Zakeri - Super specific hard to use vig

People I want to lynch the most? Ugh.

People who are saying "Impossible", maybe RAWR DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH ROLES? Or not ~*~all~*~ of them, at least? Hero could still be lying about failing his action. Zakeri could have just legit failed his too.

Raikaria · « **Reply #976 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:33:30 PM »

Well well, it appears either Rawr or IHNN is lying.

After all, Rawr's 'kill' can't be blocked because it supersedes everything else.

So, from the looks of things, Rawr's claim is CC'ed by Hero999 AND IHNN now.

Raikaria · « **Reply #977 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:34:18 PM »

Oh wait being tempkilled wouldn't make Actiondan any less town.

The claims don't cancel each other out. I think.

This makes my brain hurt.

Serela · « **Reply #978 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:34:55 PM »

I think it's more like "Rawr's role looks weird, let's not start throwing out CC'd things because it could realistically interfere or NOT interfere with all kinds of roles."

This is also the least dumb-setup-playing strategy, which rocks.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #979 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:54:08 PM »

If ihnn is gambiting for his death he better stop

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #980 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:55:37 PM »

Another way i could secure his death is if zakeri kills me and i target ihnn. But sadly raikari scum is about.

Serela · « **Reply #981 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:56:24 PM »

Why the hell are you talking about killing IHNN? o_O

Bardiche · « **Reply #982 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:57:00 PM »

This role puzzle is starting to annoy.

Rawr, you killed ActionDan Night 1, correct? And this for some reason did not trigger his ability.
And you cannot be tracked when you performed this kill, correct?

Hero, you tracked Rawr Night 1, correct? Your result showed... what? Failure, or no action?

IHNN, you copped ActionDan Night 1, correct? Was the result "Town", or was the result a failure?

Bardiche · « **Reply #983 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:58:56 PM »

Also, Shadoweh, stop getting drunk and post an explanation about Raikaria's claim of your Night Actions.

Zakeri, you attempted to kill Suzumiya Haruhi. What was the exact answer given? That your action failed through wrong input, or your action failed through actions beyond your control?

Hero, you attempted to track Zakeri tonight, correct? What was the result given? No action, or did your action fail?

Hero999 · « **Reply #984 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:00:24 PM »

On the note of role powers, There seems to be a pattern
Unless they have one single strong active
Ex. ActionDan
1 Active - Global Roleblock
It seems they have two utility roles.
EX. Hero999
2 Actives - Watch or Track
or Conq
1 Active - Quicktopic night roleblock or 1 Passive - Switch to next role power.

So Far
Hero999 is Watcher + Tracker 2 Actives
IHNN is hated miller + Cop (if taken seriously) 1 Active + 1 Passive.
Zakeri is Unlimited restricted Vig... - 1 Active
DrRawr is kill to revive, effectively roleblocks by killing. 1 Overpowering?
Serela is Unblockable add on effective to someone... - Not so overpowering...? 1 Active + ?
Shadoweh is revenger striker or something + neighborizor as well? - 1 Active + 1 Passive
Raikaria - unknown
Chaotick - unknown
Bardiche - unknown - (plausible role cop?)

@Bardiche: My action failed.

Hero999 · « **Reply #985 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:03:05 PM »

@Bardiche: N1 I did not "see" DrRawr do anything to anyone.

Bardiche · « **Reply #986 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:07:43 PM »

Serela, Shadoweh is not Confirmed Town until IHNN is Confirmed Town. Stop doing that thing where you assume someone must absolutely speak the truth. I'm skeptical of IHNN's claim, because his opening D2 post laments the lack of flip, though his result should've somehow pointed out one or another. He also failed to mention his night target in the list of people, and that list was quite extensive.

Moreover, his concern Day 1 was with Shadoweh as seen here and here. He must be held accountable for dropping Shadoweh AND ActionDan the following Day, but investigating ActionDan in lieu of Shadoweh... his top Scum pick. His last mention of ActionDan on Day 1 is that he doesn't want to see ActionDan go, so he's clearly not a priority.

Why then would he investigate the one who conveniently died today? Not sure what to make of the ID card story, not excluding possibility of it never having been meant to belong to a player at all. Why put in a Miller Cop if the only one who can Cop is... the Cop? Doesn't make sense except when Bastard Modding and I was told this isn't Bastard Mod.

Cut. Failure or you did not see him act?

Bardiche · « **Reply #987 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:09:07 PM »

Also: Fuck Role Madness games.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #988 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:10:37 PM »

The Twentieth Votecount - px update the fucking op already what a terrible mod

Hero999 (2) - Serela, Raikaria
Serela (1) - Bardiche

Not Voting - DrRawr, Hero999, IHNN, Shadoweh, SirChaotick, Zakeri

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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Nope

Quote from: Bardiche on October 08, 2012, 11:07:43 PM

(words) and I was told this isn't Bastard Mod.

reminder that px said this game was "role madness with some elements that could be considered bastard", read: he's basically the mafia host equivalent of a used car salesman

Hero999 · « **Reply #989 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:12:03 PM »

@Bardiche: I repeat, I did not "see" as in "see" DrRawr target anyone.