Author Topic: Touhou Perfect Lunatic clears (Read 56177 times)

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #60 on:** February 01, 2013, 10:18:54 PM »

I'm pretty sure I could've been recording some of these by now, but I've been pretty lazy. They are pretty neat, and I'm pretty sure it'd be cool to share stuff like this on YouTube for everyone to see. :ohdear:

Nindella · « **Reply #61 on:** February 06, 2013, 12:41:06 AM »

Oh wow, several lovely SA Lunatic Perfect replays to munch on in my spare time, haha! :derp:

Quote from: RNG on January 24, 2013, 01:35:06 AM

SA depends on character. I can see ReimuC being easier to to a NMNB with, but ReimuA gets DBDB and that combined with Catwalk are certainly big luck spots.

Yeah! ReimuC should really be an easier one since she can skip Catwalk and do the popcorn just fine, and with someone who's very good at controlling her options she should make spellcards captures faster... It's just ReimuA's basic, raw, upfront power is practically unparalleled in SA, I'd see the only big fat problem being Catwalk for her (I'm sure players of Perfect or close-to standard should be fine with DBDB~ Although maybe players on that level can even read Catwalk consistently!).

It'd be great to see SA Lunatic Perfects with other shottypes, I'd love to see how they do things!

Edit: To add to this, ReimuC has quite a problem with Orin's 1st spell. It requires a bit of practice and positioning etc. so it shouldn't be too hard, but it's definitely a problem spot for myself at least. (One of the biggest issues when No-Bombing SA with ReimuC.)

RNG · « **Reply #62 on:** February 06, 2013, 12:46:15 AM »

There's a ReimuA NMNB on nico that has spellcard histories. You might be intrigued.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15476420

Drake · « **Reply #63 on:** February 06, 2013, 01:01:22 AM »

IMO Catwalk is actually easier than DBDB. It's shorter, the individual bullet circles become clearly divided into lines of bullets, the bullets themselves clearly indicate their direction, and it's fairly slow. DBDB on the other hand is primarily fast yet has slow-stationary bullets, the bullets do indicate direction but semi-ambiguously, especially since they curve, and although most of the bullets come from the sides (which is also harder than bullets mostly above) you have to basically read from all directions. It also has two colors to look for, however little that affects things. They're both herd as fuk but both my personal experience and the pattern breakdown above pegs DBDB as harder.

Wriggle · « **Reply #64 on:** February 06, 2013, 05:51:00 AM »

I haven't really fully watched all of them, but from what I remember, Miduki's perfect had him spending a long time at the side of the screen during DBDB, which is probably because he couldn't do the whole thing (or couldn't do consistently) while in the middle where he'd fully hit Satori the whole time. Instead, he opted for a safer but time-costing strategy for a NMNB run that supposedly uses the safest possible strategies instead of the risky maneuvers from scoreruns.

Regarding Orin, he stalled all of her patterns (I don't remember how long he stalled Catwalk though), to skip the popcorn section (if these were the popcorns Nindel was talking about :V).

Karisa · « **Reply #65 on:** February 06, 2013, 07:50:27 AM »

Quote from: Wriggle on February 06, 2013, 05:51:00 AM

Regarding Orin, he stalled all of her patterns (I don't remember how long he stalled Catwalk though), to skip the popcorn section (if these were the popcorns Nindel was talking about :V).

Stalled the nonspells, captured the spell as fast as possible, if I recall correctly.

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #66 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:16:42 AM »

just gonna leave this recording here

Miduki's IN w/ Final B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YodGplEEvZ8

Miduki's MoF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LtB0_513ow

Miduki's SA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt_IZS_c1J8

Miduki's UFO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LbPYxcx7FI

Miduki's TD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJjcsBaaruc

Wriggle · « **Reply #67 on:** March 15, 2013, 07:34:39 PM »

Just included GFW, if anyone cares.

And thanks for recording these Ranko, I included them as well. :3

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #68 on:** March 16, 2013, 03:53:08 AM »

Oh my goodness, I need to check that GFW replay out now! I suppose I could get around to recording it and the other replays. I'm glad I could help in some way. :toot:

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #69 on:** March 18, 2013, 05:29:07 PM »

Here's a recording of that GFW replay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEgeXtVChAI

Wriggle · « **Reply #70 on:** March 18, 2013, 05:35:53 PM »

Thanks. Included it next to the replay. :3

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #71 on:** March 19, 2013, 07:40:45 PM »

Miduki's PCB run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGhsIWsvqmE

Wriggle · « **Reply #72 on:** March 19, 2013, 11:23:51 PM »

Added, ty. :3

chum · « **Reply #73 on:** March 20, 2013, 12:33:36 AM »

wrong thread!

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #74 on:** March 20, 2013, 06:24:31 PM »

Clio's EoSD run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bLhEOwJ4-g

Wriggle · « **Reply #75 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:31:00 PM »

Added~

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #76 on:** March 21, 2013, 09:18:25 PM »

pndsng's PCB run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7dDf3st6bQ

cactu · « **Reply #77 on:** March 21, 2013, 09:40:52 PM »

I wonder if timing out things and missing spellcards is acceptable for a Perfect clear, such as timing out EoSD Stage 6 midboss Sakuya. Or is a perfect simply just a LNMNB? I mean you would have 25/26 spellcards captured that way, but would that still be a perfect?

Chum: Do you know whether the Japanese players agree with that as well?

chum · « **Reply #78 on:** March 21, 2013, 09:46:36 PM »

The definition of "perfect" round these parts is all spells captured, so no.

Zengeku · « **Reply #79 on:** March 21, 2013, 10:57:05 PM »

Quote from: cactu on March 21, 2013, 09:40:52 PM

Chum: Do you know whether the Japanese players agree with that as well?

Generally on Royalflare, i see replays being tagged as ノーミスノーボムフルスペカ when it's a NMNB all spells captured. They do not use the term perfect as far as i can see. So if you don't capture all spells, you'd just type ノーミスノーボム25/26 instead.

Wriggle · « **Reply #80 on:** March 22, 2013, 03:16:38 AM »

In order to be "perfect", it has to have everything captured." ノーミスノーボム" means NMNB, which is technically true. I recently noticed ASL made a NMNBNT run on TD, but before including I got curious and watched it, and he timed out Miko's second-last card, due to a combination of dick RNG and nervousness. Basically, a run with a spellcard not captured due to timeout would be like a NMNB on IN in which they fail to capture a Last Spell.

Note: I haven't checked all replays carefully, so it's possible to have a non-full cap one there.

RNG · « **Reply #81 on:** March 22, 2013, 05:34:54 PM »

I don't think capturing Miko's second-to-last spell should count towards all spellcards because sometimes it's literally uncapturable.

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #82 on:** March 22, 2013, 05:57:15 PM »

Quote from: Ranko Hoshino on March 21, 2013, 09:18:25 PM

pndsng's PCB run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7dDf3st6bQ

Miduki's MarisaC MoF run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S53lNMV2m0

Wriggle · « **Reply #83 on:** March 22, 2013, 06:27:39 PM »

Quote from: Ranko Hoshino on March 21, 2013, 09:18:25 PM

pndsng's PCB run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7dDf3st6bQ

Quote from: Ranko Hoshino on March 22, 2013, 05:57:15 PM

Miduki's MarisaC MoF run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S53lNMV2m0

Added both, ty. :3

Quote from: RNG on March 22, 2013, 05:34:54 PM

I don't think capturing Miko's second-to-last spell should count towards all spellcards because sometimes it's literally uncapturable.

It was also sad to see SOMEN SOC losing a perfect with Scarlet Team on Reimu's Last Spell, because that'd be the first perfect to have Stage 4A. But can't help with that. :ohdear:

Zengeku · « **Reply #84 on:** March 22, 2013, 06:55:43 PM »

I would say that NMNB's that for one reason or another doesn't capture all spells should still be included in the thread, just with a little notification saying 25/26 or something.

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #85 on:** March 23, 2013, 06:36:17 PM »

KYO's PCB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW5cr8_WCaE

Zengeku · « **Reply #86 on:** May 19, 2013, 01:22:21 PM »

Clio did a new NMNB of Imperishable Night. This time the B-route.

http://www47.atpages.jp/thclio/replay/th8_ud0009.rpy

PS: The score is a badass 5.4b too. Definitely a good watch, especially for those who finds IN Lunatic scoring fascinating.

Wriggle · « **Reply #87 on:** May 19, 2013, 05:11:59 PM »

Oh sweet. Included it. Also, I decided to sort them by score (and add the score as an extra info), so people'll have another criteria for choosing which ones are more worth watching other than just picking their favorite shot type (which isn't really available in some games).

Spoiler:

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #88 on:** May 21, 2013, 07:35:50 PM »

Clio's IN Ghost Team Final B replay has been recorded, and that video is up now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HIuOeF6N1I

Zengeku · « **Reply #89 on:** June 09, 2013, 05:24:04 PM »

Bump time!

http://score.royalflare.net/th13/replay13/th13_ud07a4.rpy

Ten Desires NMNBNT by SOC using Youmu. Nice to see this done with a non-Reimu character for once!

Author Topic: Touhou Perfect Lunatic clears (Read 56177 times)

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