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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2015, 12:33:37 AM »
Oh I see, you're using a carrier force. Rearrange your planes so the fighters are on the largest slots or put all the fighters on Kaga so the rest of your carriers can hold bombers and have stronger shelling. Also it's not worth having the damecon and radars on Kaga and Katsuragi, give them more planes. The thing is that each node you have to fight in means you lose some bombers and when you finally reach the boss the Wo's takoyaki fighters take out what little you have left and that's compounded with low ammo so you come out with scratch damage. Kancolle Viewer should tell you your total air superiority rating on a bar near the bottom of the screen.

Trying to reach air superiority is a catch 22 because adding more fighters means less bomber slots but less fighters mean you lose more bombers along the way. You have to aim for the minimum balance of air superiority. Also I say Kitakami should be equipped with two cannons and a ko hyoteki, not torpedos. A DA at night is nearly guaranteed but chances of 30 luck for a cut in is still on the lower end.

Edit: Actually, like I said before, have all your escort fleet ships (Isuzu, Verniy, Inazuma and Kitakami) be equipped for DA (main gun, main gun, X) X NOT being a torpedo. Reliability and consistent damage>>>>miracle shot. Give the surface radar to Haruna or Mogami and don't use any yellow guns at all.

I used a surface task force for E-6 so I dunno how much my advice can help  :derp:
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2015, 01:06:41 AM »
Gotcha, gonna swap stuff around and see how well that works.

Edit: I FINALLY DID IT

Looks like keeping torps on Super Kitakami-sama (if only for the Ko-hyoteki was a good decision \o/ The whole run up to that point was a train wreck, what with Katsuragi dropping to red on the first node just cuz I decided to switch flagship position to Kaga, then using up her damecon on boss node, Hyuuga hitting orange also on first node, preemptive attacks being somewhat better but still utterly failing to finish off anything, escort fleet missing EVERY SINGLE ATTACK during day battle, AND Isuzu and Inazuma being critted straight down to 1 hp during day battle (seriously, how the hell did a DD of all things manage to basically one-shot a max armor remodeled DD ;_; ) Verniy didn't proc her DA with 3 guns equipped and Mogami missed one of her DA shots, again proving my generally shitty luck, but then Kitakami saved the day with a 247 cut-in crit \o/

So...Akitsushima. Seems like another one of those rare support-type ships. She's cute, but doesn't seem particularly useful; the seaplane on her remodel might come in handy later though, so for now I suppose I'm putting her on expedition duty.

Sooo that about wraps up Spring 2015 event for me! Let's see spoils: All 4 Kongou-class ships, Mutsu, Littorio, Akitsushima, Katsuragi, Kaga, 2 of those OTO yellow cannons, 3 41cm twin guns (didn't have any before this, only ever got 2 thanks to my horrible luck, which both sank with Haruna the First and my terrible decision making), Tenzan 601 Air Group, 2 381mm/50 triple guns, and I think a prototype 35.6cm triple gun (already forgot where I got that from, herp), a whole freaking lot of exp (seriously, I went from 1 fleet with avg levels of 60 to 2 fleets with avg levels of 53, this event alone was apparently responsible for at least a third of all exp I ever got), and most importantly, a darn good time! Now that I'm starting to get the hang of doing events, getting non-basic equips and actually having more than like 7 ships decently leveled, I think I'm gonna start showing up for events more often :V Progressing through the main maps seems dull in comparison! Though I guess in the interim I should actually take the time to grind a bit to get myself some searchlights, huh.

With the 4th fleet slot unlocked, I can more or less pace myself to keep resources alive while sortieing. I suppose it's time to farm Roma \o/
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2015, 05:47:08 PM »
oh hey e-2's done

e-3 tomorrow then wooooo


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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2015, 06:24:58 PM »
every fucking e-1 so far has ended with someone eating a fucking torpedo on the first fucking node

i swear to christ, i'm going to scrap someone

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #64 on: May 11, 2015, 01:47:45 AM »
?oh did i get unlucky with the support expedition again i swear this ga-"

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counting it all up, i'd say about 15k fuel/ammo/steel ...bauxite kept constant so let's say 2000 there (2BB/2BBV/SS/CV)
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E-5 done regardless now to clean up E-6/7/8

e: total air superiority could be done even if i was sent through carrierwarz node which was pretty hilarious, though on the offchance that i got wo-kai'd i would lose all my bombers and total sup. which was pretty sad

e2: looks like i have to go all-out for E-6 because suddenly enemies are getting crazy accurate again
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #65 on: May 11, 2015, 01:32:48 PM »
Trying to farm E-2 for Unryuu is literally hell. Half the time no one even drops for me. ;>;

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #66 on: May 11, 2015, 06:40:41 PM »
Trying to farm E-2 for Unryuu is literally hell. Half the time no one even drops for me. ;>;

It took Calamity 100 tries to get Unryu. It took some people 270 tries to get Unryu. At some point you have to ask yourself whether a low-maintenance carrier who unlocks quests that grant insanely powerful carrier equipment is really worth it.

I actually gave up on my E-3 rabbit hunts after 20k resources and 100 buckets. I'll still run E-3 for the transport kills while the event is ongoing, and hope for rabbit as  a lucky side effect, but I've learned there are limits to my hunger. Besides, rabbit will still be huntable after the event is over.

I think I'm gonna start showing up for events more often. Progressing through the main maps seems dull in comparison!

I like event maps because the rewards are rare and the compass doesn't get in your way as much. Getting to do 1-5, 2-5, and 3-5 every month may help calm your event cravings. Those maps have guaranteed pathing (for the proper fleet), a boss lifebar, medals, and rare ships like Akashi, I-19, Amatsukaze, and rabbit (unless you're me, then rabbit will never drop). I've done my extra operations for May already, to get Katsuragi's blueprint.

On the upside, I did get Akitsumaru for a third landing craft in my LSC binge... as well as Nagato, four Kongou-class, and a couple of Ise-class.

Two months ago, I spent 3.5k fuel / 3.5k ammo / 6k steel / 6k bauxite + 20 gears hoping for Taiho, and got Maruyu. I felt so bad, I never LSC'd again.

Until yesterday.

I spent 3.5k fuel / 3.5k ammo / 6k steel / 6k bauxite + 20 gears hoping for Taiho again.

I got Maruyu again.

I should have learned my lesson the first time.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #67 on: May 11, 2015, 06:45:51 PM »
Livestreaming E-5 Easy mode on Twitch at 8:00 PM EST, also RNG-sama won't let me level up subs quick enough for tank status.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #68 on: May 11, 2015, 07:36:53 PM »
After just completing E6 today (albeit on easy), I finally feel ready reporting for duty.
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #69 on: May 11, 2015, 08:12:23 PM »
Currently 0 for 5 on E6 Normal right now. I can damage it but I can't seem to kill the boss.

Main:

Haruna K @ 41 cm x2 ; Seaplane ; FCF
Kongou K2 @ 46 cm ; 41 cm ; Seaplane : AP Ammo
Nagato K @ 46 cm Prototype ; 41 cm ; Seaplane ; AP ammo
Yamashiro K @ 41 cm ; 41 cm ; Seaplane Bomber ; AP ammo
Chitose K2 @ Reppu Kai ; Reppu ; Ryuusei Kai ; Suisei (601)
Junyou K2 @ Reppu 601 ; Reppu ; Reppu ; Saiun

Escort Fleet is

Noshiro K @ 20.3 cm ; Searchlight ; Seaplane
Kirishima  K2 @  46 cm ; 41 cm ; Seaplane ; AP ammo
Ooi K2 @ 20.3 cm ; 20.3 cm ; Minisub
Kitakami K2 @ 20.3 cm ; 20.3 cm ; Minisub
Hibiki K @ 12.7 cm ; 12.7 cm ; Type 22 Sea Radar
Yukikaze K @ 12.7 cm ; 12.7 cm ; Type 22 Sea Radar

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2015, 08:37:17 PM »
I FINALLY DID IT
After just completing E6 today (albeit on easy), I finally feel ready reporting for duty.
:toot:

I failed to be specific enough for Raitaki but to guarantee a DA at night the kanmusu needs to be equipped with two main guns and ONLY two main guns. Verniy holding three guns just becomes different cut in also with super low chance to happen. My bad. It didn't really matter in the end so yippee~
Trying to farm E-2 for Unryuu is literally hell. Half the time no one even drops for me. ;>;
Out of those 100 so runs I had 40 failures. If you have a main fleet with only with 2-3 CV(L)s carrying at least three radars you can cut the cost down for each run. The radars have to be in the main fleet to reduce the fuel damage of the malestrom node. I used roughly 80 fuel and 60 ammo each run. Times 100 and that's about the cost of a pricey LSC. The biggest damage is to your SAN points :V  It's worth it to turn your CAVs into mini battleships with the SCAMP. DO IT FOR THE DAMAGED ART
I got Maruyu again.
If it makes you feel better, I have a grand total five Maruyus. I actually want more so I can feed some off and still have some tanks for 3-2-A.
Currently 0 for 5 on E6 Normal right now. I can damage it but I can't seem to kill the boss.
Swap Chitose and Junyou with Kirishima and Kaga. Kirishima is more useful in the main fleet with a second shelling phase. Before the final kill the boss has no carriers so air supremacy isn't as important in the final node. Do you know about the overweight accuracy penalty that comes with guns? Anything over the default 35cm for the Kongous kills their accuracy. Don't give them 46 and 41cms. Also Yukikaze has the goddess of luck! You can give her double torps for insane cut in damage at night. Do you have any 10cmHA's? They give slightly better AA than the 12.7cm with the same firepower for Hibiki. It's a small thing but every piece counts.
Edit: Also have Noshiro have two main guns and a searchlight. The seaplane is worthless without a second gun. The searchlight is important and the double guns gives her better night damage potential.
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #71 on: May 11, 2015, 09:01:44 PM »
Do you know about the overweight accuracy penalty that comes with guns? Anything over the default 35cm for the Kongous kills their accuracy. Don't give them 46 and 41cms.

I was aware of the overweight penalty and would never put a 46cm gun on a Kongo-class. But I thought a setup of 41cm / 35.6cm / Radar or Shell / Seaplane was fine for them. I mean, every single Kongo-class Kai form has a 41cm gun as their stock equipment. Do the devs actually mean for you replace "the gun they upgrade to" with "the gun they started with", for the best results?

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #72 on: May 11, 2015, 09:05:01 PM »
How much AS do I need with Kaga?  A Reppu / Reppu 601 / Reppu Kai / Saiun loadout is 180 AS and that means she can't attack.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #73 on: May 11, 2015, 09:37:48 PM »
41cm/35cm should be ok really, I've just seen too many bb daytime cut ins that deal a whopping 3 damage to enemy destroyers since combined fleet makes bad accuracy even worse.

Before the final kill you only need 115 or so fighter power so carrier hime doesn't get air supremacy in the preboss node and become super accurate. On the final kill 180(you need at least 159 by the time you reach the boss node) is perfect for air supremacy on the boss node. Most of your damage will come from your BBs and night battle so Kaga should be fine without attacking.

You can call me crazy but I used Reppu Reppu Reppu divebomber on Kaga for the last kill myself.
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #74 on: May 11, 2015, 10:14:47 PM »
Although I'm three days late in saying this, I'm happy to say that I've cleared the Spring Event! ^^

That was quite the experience, to say the least. I thought I was not going to be able to clear anything further than E-4, but in the end my fleet managed to pull through... and as a result of the whole ordeal, I've gained my first three Kai2 shipgirls: Kitakami, Ooi and Naka. All that is left for me to do is attempt to farm certain maps, though as much as I would like to have U-511 or Roma, my priorities right now are finding Amatsukaze at E-1 (Ooyodo miraculously dropped during my first revisit), and another SS or possibly Takanami at E-3.

And after this is over, I'll hold a commemorative LSC or two...!

I was aware of the overweight penalty and would never put a 46cm gun on a Kongo-class. But I thought a setup of 41cm / 35.6cm / Radar or Shell / Seaplane was fine for them. I mean, every single Kongo-class Kai form has a 41cm gun as their stock equipment. Do the devs actually mean for you replace "the gun they upgrade to" with "the gun they started with", for the best results?

I believe a 41cm plus a 35.6cm on the Kongou-classes shouldn't have that much of an overweight penalty in regular situations, though I've been told that using two 35.6cm guns for them is heavily recommended in Combined Fleets due to the sharp decrease in accuracy. I personally have all of my BBs use fit guns whenever possible, as I don't want to risk the accuracy penalty.

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« Reply #75 on: May 11, 2015, 11:01:01 PM »
I've been after Unryuu since last Summer's horrible E-1 fiasco, so there's no way in hell I'm giving up on her.

It looks like this is gonna turn into another Taigei situation though. ;>;

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« Reply #76 on: May 12, 2015, 12:12:44 AM »
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« Reply #77 on: May 12, 2015, 02:34:43 AM »
Got Tokitsukaze from E-3.

I said RABBIT, damn it.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #78 on: May 13, 2015, 12:26:22 AM »
Thanks to you guys I've managed to get two clean boss kills on E6 normal in a row.

However, I'm dropping down to 150 AS by the time I hit the boss. I've got my three most powerful fighters on Kaga (Reppu, Reppu Kai, Reppu 601). Should I bring a 4th and drop the Saiun for the last run?

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« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2015, 12:43:55 AM »
However, I'm dropping down to 150 AS by the time I hit the boss. I've got my three most powerful fighters on Kaga (Reppu, Reppu Kai, Reppu 601). Should I bring a 4th and drop the Saiun for the last run?
Do you have any BBVs and Zaiuns? Because I use two of them on my Hyuuga and we always get 160-165 AS.

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« Reply #80 on: May 13, 2015, 01:38:55 AM »
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« Reply #81 on: May 13, 2015, 01:54:11 AM »
Dammit. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED RNG GODS!?

I feel like I'm running myself and my girls ragged in my Unryuu attempts.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #82 on: May 13, 2015, 02:07:03 AM »
Do you have any BBVs and Zaiuns? Because I use two of them on my Hyuuga and we always get 160-165 AS.

I can load a couple on Yamashiro. I've got one on her so far and I can load another. So (Main Gun x2, Zaiun, Zaiun)?

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #83 on: May 13, 2015, 06:12:32 AM »
Welp I can confirm Uzuki drops at E-3 boss node firsthand, I wanted to see if I could fish out a Maruyu while clearing the 50 transport quest. Found the new dd at too.  :getdown:

Hope you find your rabbit soon Sixten~

I can load a couple on Yamashiro. I've got one on her so far and I can load another. So (Main Gun x2, Zaiun, Zaiun)?
Yeah that should work fine.
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #84 on: May 13, 2015, 08:49:41 AM »
I still have yet to write up my E-5 and E-6 report but I'll go ahead and talk about post event Shinanigans....

E-4 Post Event Shinanigans : Daihatsu or Bust

Do you know what I've been doing post event? Trying to score an Akitsumaru... that's what! Sadly I'm closing in on my 50th attempt now. And still no success in finding her. I may got 2 Daihatsu already, but I'm gunning for a third one!

Regardless I haven't walked out empty handed...


I bagged Nowaki, which while she's isn't anything special, she's still a nice prize if you want to get your Kagerou collection more complete... (I got her from a few events ago, so I already got her.)

and...

3 Maruyus

They keep dropping like crazy here and I still don't have a 3rd Daihatsu. Oh well, the good thing is... someone going to have a "lucky meal" once I'm done tenderizing these poor little saps. Ushio needs a healthy does of Maruyu-Os to catch up with Shigure so this will be my best door of opportunity to do so!
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« Reply #85 on: May 13, 2015, 09:28:26 AM »

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #86 on: May 13, 2015, 03:00:22 PM »
Reached 100 E-3 sorties (bringing my total lifetime rabbit hunts up to 300).

Of those 100 sorties, about 15 involved getting sent home early by Evil Naka. Evil Naka can one-shot anyone on my team - even my Level 67 Kirishima - with her torpedoes.

Here's a brief history of my E-3 drops.

Agano. Takanami (the new destroyer). I-8, I-168, and I-19 (my third). Makigumo (also my third). Yayoi (for the seventh time!). Ryujo. Fubuki. Jintsu. Oboro (lots of Oboro). Isuzu. Nagara. Mochizuki. Ise sisters, Fuso sisters, Myoko sisters. Kumas. Mostly ordinary Kuma kumas, but also Mikuma (twice) and Kumano (twice). Suzuya. Tokitsukaze (twice!).

My resources have dropped to around the cap (25500). My buckets have dropped to 370.

Still no rabbits.

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« Reply #87 on: May 13, 2015, 03:44:10 PM »
Thanks Sixten for coming out to my stream last night, also I'll be livestreaming E-6 Easy mode tonight hopefully my buckets and resources recover by then.

Last night stream recap: http://www.twitch.tv/duckieplucky/v/4975743 [Warning: Foul language, constant talking, and music.]

I only had to retreat once and for the first time I used boss support which turned out good in my favor, also nothing of note drop as seen in my stream JUST JUNK:

E-5 Easy mode last kill:







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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #88 on: May 14, 2015, 03:15:54 AM »
So I've fully depleted the boss meter for E6. I tried 4 times tonight and I can't seem to do enough damage to isolate the boss now that the carrier princess is in play.

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« Reply #89 on: May 14, 2015, 05:58:39 AM »
5/8 kills so far on Easy mode and one of them being the 5th one was a clean kill at night battle thanks to Yuudachi Kai Ni, also I discovered something rather interesting... Node I of E-6 on Easy mode... Mutsu drops there I got her during S rank lol I almost woke up when I saw her I almost fell asleep at my stream:

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