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Title: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 04, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/tFx4cs4.jpg)

Puzzle & Dragons is an iOS/android puzzle RPG.  It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon.  It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained frequently as rewards in-game), which allow for increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more.  If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any.  (It's recommended you don't because most things can be obtained/beaten without spending money and some amount of patience and skill.)

You can control monsters from lowly slimes to dragons to ancient gods and even defense attorneys like Phoenix Wright. They all mostly have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.

Real talk though, the real reason to get into this game is because everyone else here is playing it and has been playing non-stop for the past 2 years, and probably won't stop for a long time thanks to the constant updates to the game and its mechanics, balance changes that never directly nerf anything and are mostly focused on increasing the viability of older monsters, and of course the endless addition of new monsters and collabs that are dished out on a regular basis.

If you're interested, there's a really useful database and game info here:

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/

A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine.  It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare (a god).  Great starters include any of the Chinese gods, Amaterasu, Isis, Verdandi, Lu Bu, Bestet, Odin, Kali, Shiva, Amaterasu, Sonia, the Dragonbounds. Feel free to ask!

If you need more help or just want to discuss the game, we also have a P&D channel on the MotK IRC network in here. Just type your name and go.
For those using IRC clients other than webchat, the channel is #puzzleandlibrarians on irc.ppirc.net.


List of friends + Main Leaders:
Edible: 328,945,274 (BATMAN !*, Bestet*)
hyorinryu: 357.646.299 (Sakuya*, Perseus*)
Suikama: 348.941.282 (Isis*, Ra Dra*)
triangles: 322.456.235 (A. Leilan, LKali)
Chaore: 344,844,286 (Shiva*, Superman)
Yukarin: 394.177.213 (Haku*, Sakuya*)
Jq1790: 396,049,294 (AShiva, AKarin*, DHermes)
Pesco: 328 276 294 (Yomidra*, ROdin*, Xiang Mei)
Dibble: 314,673,283 (Isis, GOdin)
Matsuri: 358,689,277 (Awoken Astaroth*, Awoken Tsukuyomi*, Xiang Mei)
The Greatest Dog: 359,184,275 (Zaerog∞, Raoh, Fenrir ?)
Sacchi: 385,394,297 (Horus*, Vishnu*)
rdj: 338,277,280 (AA Lucifer*, Minerva*)
Chirei: 326,404,383 (Leilan*, Alraune*,Skuld*)
commandercool: 312,728,337 (Gabriel*, Awoken Ra*, NepDra*)
Aoshi: 398,822,333 (School!Athena, Sakuya*)
Conqueror: 331,616,320 (DQXQ, I&I)
MoogsParfait: 313,455,268 (Leilan, Waifuterasu*)
Dorakyura: 347,957,300 (Nephthys*)
Bio: 336,681,244 (Sakuya, Athena)
En: 351,629,319 (Lu Bu, Haku)
moekou: 329,066,242 (Osiris*, Pandora)
Espadas: 301,335,377 (Yomidra*, APandora)
Calamity: 331,737,355 (Ronia, Shiva)
Mea: 380,147,382 (Myr*,  APandora*, ASakuya*)
aUsernameIsFineToo: 347,966,337 (A.Bastet*, GOdin, Kushinadahime)
Ruka: 368,034,352 (Sasuke, I&I Healer)
Zengar Zombolt: 309,400,409 (Sylvie*,  AThor*, Verdandi*)
StarlightHawk: 383,095,393 (A.Venus, Skuld, Wukong*)
qMyon: 320,092,324 (Verdandi, Saria)
Soichirou W.: 323,897,388 (Perseus)
Namusan ♡Yomichiyu: 337,315,379 (A. DQXQ*, ShivaDra*, A. Pandora*)
Hikari: 309,703,434 (Pollux, School Sakuya, Typhon)

(Asterisk next to leaders means "hypermax" - +297, max skill. Glowing leaders have all five latent awakening slots full.)

Topic Archive:


Thread I (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14669.0.html)
Thread II (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15058.0.html)
Thread III (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15370.0.html)
Thread IV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15728.0.html)
Thread V (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16090.0.html)
Thread VI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16209.0.html)
Thread VII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16326.0.html)
Thread VIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16604.0.html)
Thread IX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16767.0.html)
Thread X (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17002.0.html)
Thread XI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17175.0.html)
Thread XII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17337.0.html)
Thread XIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17483.0.html)
Thread XIV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17582.0.html)
Thread XV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17678.0.html)
Thread XVI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17748.0.html)
Thread XVII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17904.0.html)
Thread XVIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18079.0.html)
Thread XIX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18188.0.html)
Thread XX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18335.0.html)
Thread XXI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18505.0.html)
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Thread XXX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19554.0.html)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2016, 10:05:01 AM
bad news bears, Version 9.3 will be killing off perma-mail storage by attaching expiration dates to System/Management-sent mail.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 04, 2016, 11:15:18 AM
That's... fucking stupid. People use their mail as a secondary box because spending money on box space is also, in fact, fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on July 04, 2016, 12:21:57 PM
People use their mail as a secondary box...
That's exactly what they're trying to prevent with that. Looks like the mail content display update was only leading up to this.

Addendum: This also means I won't be able to keep the "welcome" message i received upon starting the game. Truly the greatest loss of all. >:(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2016, 12:25:49 PM
https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/749930533962936320

"Regarding increasing the sales of stones for box space, such a stupid reason isn't why we're attaching time limits to mail (>_<)"

lol we're on to you, YamaP
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 04, 2016, 12:29:41 PM
Well then what IS the reason, hmmmm?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 04, 2016, 12:35:28 PM
Lies, lies, lies.

I'm starting to genuinely hate what this game has become.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 04, 2016, 12:58:47 PM
From Unknown_PC: Apparently YamaP is starting to reconsider the 90 day limit. Unsure if it is that same tweet above.

Either way he's trying to get all his noniap/light iap people to quit in 2017 lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2016, 01:00:24 PM
From Unknown_PC: Apparently YamaP is starting to reconsider the 90 day limit. Unsure if it is that same tweet above.

Either way he's trying to get all his noniap/light iap people to quit in 2017 lol

proof: https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/749930144932900864

"[90 days] is a lot of time to think about things, we'll try to figure something out"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 04, 2016, 01:06:07 PM
proof: https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/749930144932900864

"[90 days] is a lot of time to think about things, we'll try to figure something out"

Thanks.

May want to add that to the reddit thing too oops
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 04, 2016, 02:11:53 PM
On the other hand, what's the expiration period? If it's long enough, then I doubt it matters to most people.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2016, 02:16:55 PM
On the other hand, what's the expiration period? If it's long enough, then I doubt it matters to most people.

90 days for mail after 9.3;

pre-9.3 mail expires after 2017/1/10 11:59AM
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 04, 2016, 02:26:39 PM
So pre-9.3 stuff is mostly safe, but post 9.3 stuff is gonna get a little tight. 90 days is still a decent amount of time, though, for people who only take Tamas and Piis when they need them. Or... random +50 Flamies... coughcough
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 04, 2016, 02:28:02 PM
Oh, right, not that it matters for a lot if people, but for the high-tier NA players, Arena 3.0 is gonna be a thing(later this week, I forget when) in case you all missed it in the rush of the mailbox debacle.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2016, 02:37:37 PM
So pre-9.3 stuff is mostly safe, but post 9.3 stuff is gonna get a little tight. 90 days is still a decent amount of time, though, for people who only take Tamas and Piis when they need them.

i know people who kept 800 day old mail
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 04, 2016, 05:01:04 PM
i know people who kept 800 day old mail

Point noted :V

Arena 3.0 is gonna be a thing(later this week, I forget when) in case you all missed it in the rush of the mailbox debacle.

I wonder if I can manage that... I doubt it, even with 900k consistent damage :(

EDIT: Waifu List
-Cinderella
-Sopdet
-Lilith (sold for MP)
-Sopdet (sold for MP)
-Bestcat (http://imgur.com/UZ419KE)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 04, 2016, 08:04:49 PM
-Bestcat (http://imgur.com/UZ419KE)

RIP Thaws and User :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 05, 2016, 01:37:25 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/mK52zK5l.png)
OK thanks for the stone, game. And chirei, too!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 05, 2016, 04:08:41 AM
Now do it solo in team challenge mode. It's an extra stone :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on July 05, 2016, 11:18:57 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/750270319764529152

Looks like the mail expiration date has been increased to one year after reception.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 05, 2016, 12:40:38 PM
RIP people who spent last night taking stuff out of their mail.

EDIT: and 9.3 will have awakening organization! That's actually helpful; I don't need to go through monsters to see which ones have five or six Light OEs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 05, 2016, 12:46:14 PM
Oh wow, PreDras are very early today, and only up once. Yeah, won't be around to co-op them I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Pesco on July 05, 2016, 01:40:05 PM
I'd like to gauge the interest for a PAD themed board game. I opted for PAD over Touhou because i don't even know the names of the characters in Touhou from the last 2 years. The gameplay and mechanics are inspired from the Witcher board game (Steam link (http://store.steampowered.com/app/303800/)). If there is enough interest, I'll begin designing this to be run in RPG. Post any questions you have over in the general faq thread in RPG so that we keep this thread to actual PAD discussion.

Preliminary faq

When can we start joining?
Minimum 2 months will be needed for me to design this. I'm going to Seattle for Dota early next month so you'll need to wait until I come back and settle back to normal life.

Can we expect the game to be balanced
If it turns out balanced, I expect the game will be rather boring as it means I have not thought through the mechanics sufficiently. I will aim to make playstyles different enough that it won't be so easy to determine what is always objectively better.

Can we play this in Tabetop Simulator?
If the first run is successful, I'm all for letting whoever wishes to port it there go ahead with that. I'm only able to design and run my game on the forums because of downtime at work.

How complicated will the game be?
My rough estimate of game complexity will be:
Basic: Mons have single element, few AS on select mons.
Moderate: Mons have dual element, AS on most mons, LS on player.
Advanced: Mons have dual element, AS on all mons that get used 'combat', LS on player and helper.
Ideal: Mons have single element, dual element on evolve, mon type is a factor, AS on all mons that get used 'combat', LS on player and helper, unlimited number of players can join.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 05, 2016, 07:56:59 PM
Looks like the mail expiration date has been increased to one year after reception.
It's not too bad I suppose. But still, an expiration date....I guess we'll have to see how it goes. Luckily, I don't have much in my JP mail atm besides the green jewels from the recent green descended challenge (w/e the actual name is).

On a side note, I saw various PAD figurines (pugyutto to be exact) at AX this past weekend. Saw some like Sonia, Metatron, Valkyrie, Lilith, Hera. Think I might've seen Ammy too but I wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 06, 2016, 06:44:21 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/MvXmx47.jpg)

pull #5 merely on collected stones and random cents from Google surveys

now to box her and never do much with her
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 06, 2016, 11:25:50 AM
Oh hey I need two blue masks let's do a few Legend runs to get that out of the way!

3 green masks later...

...oh, it's gonna be like this.  Ok then.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 06, 2016, 12:49:52 PM
At least you have something to blame your failures on.

What I do is say, "Oh hey, Friday dungeon. I need stuff.", run it once, get a thing I need, and then forget to re-run it until the weekend, at which point I headbang my wall :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 07, 2016, 04:15:16 AM
Alright, these are the results of a full day farming Water Carnival. The only thing I really care about it Nut skillups, although I vaguely could use Muse skillups I guess.

x9 Mystic Ice Knight
x9 Neneko
x9 Waron
x8 Water Shibamaru
x5 Blue DeviNyan :/
x3 Tunabowl
x1 Blue Fairy

Of course the one I wanted was the least common non-boss drop by a large margin. Good thing I wasn't trying to get Shit Waifu skillups though. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 07, 2016, 10:49:38 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/751004425120997379

Himura Kenshin is the card which used the new cross mechanic teased at the stream.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 07, 2016, 12:12:45 PM
Of course he gets the most broken LS of all time rofl
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 07, 2016, 12:34:09 PM
lol at the name of the new english event

(http://i.imgur.com/mZIbmuy.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 07, 2016, 01:42:49 PM
Of course he gets the most broken LS of all time rofl

Well there's no HP and RCV multiplier so while it may seem like the most broken LS in history it probably isn't that game-breaking in practice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on July 07, 2016, 04:33:42 PM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/751004425120997379

Himura Kenshin is the card which used the new cross mechanic teased at the stream.

fire is saved?!?!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 07, 2016, 05:13:06 PM
Gonna be lots of tears shed when those silver eggs roll out c:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 07, 2016, 07:05:11 PM
Just realized that Blue Sonia/Ryune is kind of a thing. Not sure there's a terribly compelling reason to run it over NepDra/Ryune, but it has considerably better HP and RCV in exchange for weirder actives. I definitely prefer it over Blonia/Blonia though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 07, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
ok, ult miru mats collected, now all I need is to evo nordis and deus ex for her regular evo, things going swimmingly
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 08, 2016, 02:36:31 AM
Hmm, looks like the 5x4 descends are up starting tomorrow, overlapping with Water Carnival. I have ~15 Nut skillup materials, which won't be enough to finish her unless I get lucky. There's not anybody out there who happens to need to farm Water Carnival or 5x4 Hera-Ur and wants to co-op, is there? I could use the stamina discount. Then again I guess I'd be happy to stone for Hera-Ur if the rates keep up with what I had been seeing when it was a coin dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 08, 2016, 03:00:01 AM
Hmm, looks like the 5x4 descends are up starting tomorrow, overlapping with Water Carnival. I have ~15 Nut skillup materials, which won't be enough to finish her unless I get lucky. There's not anybody out there who happens to need to farm Water Carnival or 5x4 Hera-Ur and wants to co-op, is there? I could use the stamina discount. Then again I guess I'd be happy to stone for Hera-Ur if the rates keep up with what I had been seeing when it was a coin dungeon.

Remember you can run the coin rogues instead on Mythical Plus for a higher invade rate and MP.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 08, 2016, 03:12:14 AM
Oh right, I guess I forgot that. Looks like the red one invades Volsung, which is honestly probably the easiest or second easiest. My only minor concern about that is that I can't really see myself having the time and patience to just sit down and run Volsung nonstop for an hour THAT often, so it may lead to a lot of wasted coins. But hey, coins are cheap.

Do we know what the M+ invade rates are?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 08, 2016, 11:14:23 AM
So seemingly despite PDX listing today's date as an appearance of L+ Hera-Ur that's just a misrepresentation and it isn't actually up at all. I got Nut skillmaxed though, so maybe I'll give coin Volsung a shot later anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 08, 2016, 01:06:32 PM
So seemingly despite PDX listing today's date as an appearance of L+ Hera-Ur that's just a misrepresentation and it isn't actually up at all. I got Nut skillmaxed though, so maybe I'll give coin Volsung a shot later anyway.

coin volsung is currently wood resist. source: me running it solo all week for mp

you probably want scarlet
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 08, 2016, 01:19:10 PM
Wow, PDX strikes again. They had (and still do, I just checked) the resists listed out of order too. Scarlet it is then. She may be the fastest solo farm so that's cool. Thanks for the heads up, apparently I don't have another reliable source of information.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 08, 2016, 01:29:31 PM
Gonna be lots of tears shed when those silver eggs roll out c:

i dunno dude, the silvers are pretty fucking good
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 08, 2016, 11:11:30 PM
coin volsung is currently wood resist. source: me running it solo all week for mp

you probably want scarlet

Hmm. Uh. Scarlet is not fire resist, she's water resist. So if that's the case then fire resist must be

FUCK

it's in Linthia isn't it?

Fuck me. :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 08, 2016, 11:33:09 PM
Hmm. Uh. Scarlet is not fire resist, she's water resist. So if that's the case then fire resist must be

FUCK

it's in Linthia isn't it?

Fuck me. :colonveeplusalpha:

go down the coin dungeon listing, they'll go in backwards order of TE>Dark>Light>Wood>Water>Fire

so volsung is wood and scarlet is water, so the one right before scarlet is fire, which would be nordis
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 08, 2016, 11:36:22 PM
Mmkay. Since there was a typing correlation with Scarlet and Volsung I assumed Linthia, but that's as good of a correlation. I'll give it a shot and report back (in the meantime I've been wracking my brain trying to find a way to solo Lintha M+ and I got nothing).

Edit: Confirmed, fire resist latents are in Nordis. Which is good and bad. It's WAY better than Linthia, but Nordis M+ is not my most consistent farm. If the Tamadra appears anywhere in the later floors I'm good though, so it's not terrible.

Anybody have any interest in farming Nordis M+ co-op...?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 09, 2016, 01:35:45 AM
Just watched an episode of the PAD anime. It was... There. It was the most average thing I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 09, 2016, 04:41:35 AM
That's out now? Might check it out at some later point in time.

Now that the full Ruroken stats are released, I'm greatly disappointed that Shishio has only two awakenings. I mean really? He was the final boss of the first half of the series.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 09, 2016, 05:43:18 AM
Now that the full Ruroken stats are released, I'm greatly disappointed that Shishio has only two awakenings. I mean really? He was the final boss of the first half of the series.

Such is the fate of a farmable card
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 09, 2016, 06:34:36 AM
Such is the fate of a farmable card
Well that makes more sense. I guess if I had to pick any two awakenings, those two would be among my top picks :/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 09, 2016, 04:23:59 PM
Can anyone confirm that latents can actually invade M+ coin dungeons? I'm up to 17 runs of Nordis, 16 on M+ and one on L+ for the stone. I've only seen a single Tamadra, and it was on the L+ run.

I was estimating 5x4 L+ Tamadra invades at something like 30%,so this is starting to seem pretty sketchy.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on July 09, 2016, 06:46:19 PM
Can anyone confirm that latents can actually invade M+ coin dungeons? I'm up to 17 runs of Nordis, 16 on M+ and one on L+ for the stone. I've only seen a single Tamadra, and it was on the L+ run.

I was estimating 5x4 L+ Tamadra invades at something like 30%,so this is starting to seem pretty sketchy.

It's all about the desire sensor.
At some point I was farming nordis Myth+ with my friend on multi and it was blue latents which we didn't need, and of course we were getting them like every other run which slows us down and had like 15 of those in our BOX at the end.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 09, 2016, 08:04:55 PM
Can anyone confirm that latents can actually invade M+ coin dungeons? I'm up to 17 runs of Nordis, 16 on M+ and one on L+ for the stone. I've only seen a single Tamadra, and it was on the L+ run.

I was estimating 5x4 L+ Tamadra invades at something like 30%,so this is starting to seem pretty sketchy.

i've heard 20% but you kind of have to keep chopping away at them, i've had strings of volsung runs where i get invaded every other run

the 5x4 is only 10% on legend plus so lol, might as well run rogues on l+
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 09, 2016, 08:23:33 PM
It's all about the desire sensor.
At some point I was farming nordis Myth+ with my friend on multi and it was blue latents which we didn't need, and of course we were getting them like every other run which slows us down and had like 15 of those in our BOX at the end.

Yeah, in my two runs on Scarlet I got two blue resists. This is fucking stupid.

My Nordis solo clear is also not 100% consistent which doesn't help.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 09, 2016, 11:33:17 PM
Last minute roll nailed me an Izanami, so I may have managed to roll (I sold a dupe and Lilith, though) every 4-star mon. There may have been another, IIRC.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 10, 2016, 03:44:26 AM
Alright, my Nordis farm is getting more consistent. If I'm losing at this point it's because I'm failing to one-shot floor 11 Nordis by a sliver, but I'm getting better at working around that. I'm at like a 75% clear rate now up from 50% this morning.

Finally did get two more red resists, and they were clumped. Now that I'm rolling through my guys and kind of making them worse by replacing their stats latents, the question is: Should I also give Gabriel red resists or should I keep his +RCVs? Which is cooler?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 10, 2016, 06:36:19 AM
NA updates for new descended bosses seem to range anywhere from a month and a half to two months. So, if we're lucky we should be getting miru within the next two weeks, or else by the end of July/early August if we're unlucky.
Evo mats wise, I'm just missing a light keeper to evo deus ex, and then a threedia and green king to evo nordis, almost there almost there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 10, 2016, 03:00:46 PM
I need an Aegir for my I&I, along with a friggin Blue gem. Those things hate me. I also need one or two more for Gabriel. Wood gems, on the other hand, drop all the time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 10, 2016, 04:08:58 PM
I need an Aegir for my I&I
Norse Challenge go go go!  ...assuming you can take it that is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 10, 2016, 09:13:29 PM
I can't :V
Instead, I'll hope I get other good subs and spam team challenge to get another five stones before midnight.
I have a strong feeling that if I roll again before the event ends, I'll get something pretty decent.
EDIT: actually, I'll clear the current bowldra first, because I'm almost done with that. Then I only need two more stones from team challenge.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 10, 2016, 10:55:58 PM
Do you want help getting an Aegir? I'm sure someone would be happy to co-op him with you.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 10, 2016, 11:17:11 PM
I would, but I think I'm busy tomorrow, assuming the dungeon is even up. Tonight my priority is getting five waifu stones. If Aegir is up tomorrow, I'll ask somebody to co-op.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 10, 2016, 11:27:04 PM
Unfortunately he's leaving tonight with the Norse challenge, but he'll be back so it's no huge deal if you don't get him now.

Good luck stone gathering!  Stop by in case anyone's got stam to burn and you can coop anyway to get more dungeon for your stamina (thus more stones with the stam you have).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 11, 2016, 01:05:43 AM
Honestly, I'm not worried about my in-game stamina. It's my IRL stamina that concerns me. I've been playing VOEZ and Pokemon Go all day, with PAD bursts in-between for Limited Dungeons (like Kings :3). My arms are dead, I'm hungry, I'm thirsty, and I'm tired. But for the sake of animu girls, I shall push on.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 11, 2016, 01:50:57 AM
Honestly, I'm not worried about my in-game stamina. It's my IRL stamina that concerns me. I've been playing VOEZ and Pokemon Go all day, with PAD bursts in-between for Limited Dungeons (like Kings :3). My arms are dead, I'm hungry, I'm thirsty, and I'm tired. But for the sake of animu girls, I shall push on.

Lest I be oneupsmanship guy, I'll just say this: As someone who's solo farming Nordis on Mythical Plus nonstop, I feel you.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 11, 2016, 01:59:14 AM
This is gonna suck. I can get enough stones, but I'll be pushing really close to midnight, calculating my stamina consumption. I'm nearly out, and to clear the next two sets of team challenges, I need 6 hours worth of stamina. I have some surplus right now, so I can just barely do it.

EDIT: All this for a single RNG roll.
EDIT2: 1:24 to go; current time is 10:12 PM
EDIT3: Crap I fell asleep :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 11, 2016, 04:39:27 PM
Oh PAD, always pushing me for co-op.

"Hey, Hera Rush is up. I can probably solo that for the stone real quick."

->99 stamina

Anybody want to co-op it with me later? :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 11, 2016, 08:16:39 PM
yay i guess

(http://i.imgur.com/el8FBQm.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 12, 2016, 03:48:37 AM
Forgot all about co-op and ended up soloing M+ Hera Rush with Gabriel. Goddamn, that was a grind. Took the better part of an hour.

I'm torn as to whether I want to inherit an orbchange or something onto Charite so she has something to do to an enemy who's already red. Even at 36 turns though I find myself being inconvenienced by the Ultra Gravity I put on Snow White fairly often, so it might not be a great idea. Still, it sucked to battle it out with Zeus&Hera for like forty turns with her active effectively blanked out for most of them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 12, 2016, 06:55:38 AM
I've finally managed to collect every single evo mat I need to get from oneesan miru to best gril miru to imouto miru
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/PiiQ5B1XxxiX6/200_s.gif)

Now the only I have everything to get ult miru except miru herself. orz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 12, 2016, 11:41:13 AM
So I'm going to assume based on the fact that I just tried to fuse him and lost my materials to no effect that Reincarnation Kamui is not actually out, is that right? PDX is rely unclear about it but seemed to kind of imply that he is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 12, 2016, 11:54:00 AM
PDX is not Gospel. 

Go by the official FB page to be sure.  PDX screws people over all the time with ambiguity or flat out incorrectness.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 12, 2016, 01:04:10 PM
Yeah you don't gotta tell me it's wrong a lot. This is what, the third time this week PDX has fucked me over? But I'm not on Facebook and I don't speak Japanese so as far as I know it's all I have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 12, 2016, 08:30:27 PM
The requirements for the harder Team Badges have been announced.

[Unbindable Leaders Badge]
1) Clear Legendary Earth
2) Clear 35 different Technical Dungeons
3) Clear 40 different Special Dungeons
4) Have 400 different monsters owned in the Monster Book
5) Beat Alt. Temple of Trailokya completely
6) Get 20% or better in any Ranking Dungeon

[+50% Skill Bind Resist Badge]
1) Clear 40 different Technical Dungeons
2) Clear 50 different Special Dungeons
3) 500 different cards owned in the Monster Book
4) Beat Alt. Talos's Abyss completely
5) Get 10% or better in any Ranking Dungeon

super easy, right
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 12, 2016, 08:37:38 PM
What if you've already been in the top 10% in the past?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 12, 2016, 08:40:06 PM
What if you've already been in the top 10% in the past?

At some point it apparently becomes possible to view all previous ranking dungeons you've participated in in the past, so your scores are retroactively saved somewhere. All they have to do is check your achievements against that, technically speaking.

Extra notes:
-Some of the rewards are PADR tickets to open dungeons. NA/EU/KR don't have PADR...
-EU doesn't have Ranking Dungeons.

Not looking good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 12, 2016, 08:46:21 PM
Can't remember if I got just over or just under 10% in that fixed team tournament. I think it ended up being like 11% unfortunately, but I'm not positive.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on July 12, 2016, 09:01:19 PM
Extra notes:
-Some of the rewards are PADR tickets to open dungeons. NA/EU/KR don't have PADR...
-EU doesn't have Ranking Dungeons.

Not looking good.

To note, the dungeon tickets are available IN-GAME and do not require PADR connected as far as I'm aware.

It's unlikely to be a real problem when the update hits, and there isn't a real need to worry.


EU though manages to surprise me every time though, what the hell happens over there?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 12, 2016, 09:03:06 PM
Aw, i reached so close in the Ranking requirement.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on July 12, 2016, 09:09:20 PM
Also to note, since Chirei mentioned them, there's basically about 10 stones+tama+20k Mp+ a lot of other stuff readily available in the badges.

Basically everyone is in agreement this is a pretty alright update, and even if you don't meet full rewards for a badge YOU DO GET REWARDS FOR INDIVIDUAL REQUIREMENTS as they are met. You also do not have to claim them immediately to get the badge and they don't enter your mailbox until you do.

Not a lot to complain about actually.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 12, 2016, 09:35:32 PM
Ooh good I should be qualified for the unbindable leaders badge which is the one I like the most atm.  Gotta go look at the info about em though...  Wanna see all the stuff you can get and the missions.  This sounds like a ton of fun in any case.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 12, 2016, 10:54:10 PM
unbindable is probably the best, sbr sounds like its for gimmick teams despite being annihilation-tier achievement

Redacted. IT DOES NOT WORK ON THE FRIEND LEADER (https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/comments/4sjed1/psajpthe_leader_bind_resist_badge_does_not_work/)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 12, 2016, 10:59:25 PM
Unbindable Leader would be soo good for Wukong.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 12, 2016, 11:02:22 PM
I don't know, I'm finding my teams coming up short on lock resists pretty often lately. Lot of new stuff doesn't have one. Even with Alrescha on it my Neptune Dragon team doesn't usually have 100%. Is it worth the badge slot for only a 20% boost? Maybe, since it also protects you in the event of binds.

Unbindable leaders does seem more generally useful though. Really dumps on the fairy tale girls since apparently they were getting too good for silvers. They're still great of course, but not quite as near-necessary.

In light of the fact that it doesn't work on your friend lead, unbindable leaders seem niche and mostly useful for either things that tend to pair with bindproof leads but aren't bindproof themselves (not even sure what that would be) or bindable bind clears (maybe heartmakers with a heart row?).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 12, 2016, 11:13:48 PM
In light of the fact that it doesn't work on your friend lead, unbindable leaders seem niche and mostly useful for either things that tend to pair with bindproof leads but aren't bindproof themselves (not even sure what that would be) or bindable bind clears (maybe heartmakers with a heart row?).
Like pandora ::), saves me from cramming in a sleeping beauty somewhere

My current panda team would be 100% sb resistant with beach claire, so whenever you want to come back out with that bikini collab gungho.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 12, 2016, 11:23:10 PM
Isn't slightly increased orb drops supposed to be one of the badges? I could see a tiny heart drop boost being pretty handy.

Edit: Also, how does equipping them work? Are they attached to teams or accounts? And can you swap them out at will or is there a cost to changing them?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 12, 2016, 11:59:41 PM
All you gotta do is tap the badge icon in the edit team section (positioned above the leader). You can switch badges anytime you want and there's no cost to switching. You can even have all teams using the same badge.

Atm, there's no badges that increases orb drops. Besides the 2 already mentioned, there are: +100 cost, +1 sec move time, all attacks = mass attacks, 25% RCV, 5% HP, 5% ATK, +1 SB.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 13, 2016, 12:02:37 AM
25% RCV? Seriously? Wow, fuck heart drops, I want that.

It's more optimal on my Gabriel team than just about any other. I've got huge RCV but even huger HP so keeping my healing up isn't a sure thing, yet I have enough for the multiplier to give me a very, very large bonus. Nice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 13, 2016, 12:08:23 AM
Oh, hey that RCV thing would be wonderful for me too.  Given unbindability doesn't do what I wanted it to do I need a new thing to hype so I guess I'll go with that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on July 13, 2016, 02:43:06 AM
all attacks = mass attacks
:getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 13, 2016, 02:57:38 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/kZX4FPz.jpg)

Without the Skill Boost Badge this team would require 1 turn of stall on Wangren but with it I don't need to stall anymore;

Skill Boost Badge OP confirmed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 13, 2016, 02:59:28 AM
Rank 666.... :V

Looks like Zeus-Dios System is hellish. :P
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 13, 2016, 03:02:01 AM
Looks like Zeus-Dios System is hellish. :P

The old pre-badge setup required you to have Gronia or Avalon Drake inherited on a regular Tengu instead of just using Gronia.

And anyways, this is for farming Surt!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 13, 2016, 03:06:06 AM
Does A. Drake work the same way ? Or with a bit of a lower efficiency ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 13, 2016, 03:07:02 AM
Does A. Drake work the same way ? Or with a bit of a lower efficiency ?

Avalon Drake wont work in that team because you dont have anything to cover Dark attribute and Surtr is All Attr. required

edit: posting this for my reference

(http://i.imgur.com/eQD7wAz.jpg)

super ultimate dragon rush coop w/ awoken liu bei
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 13, 2016, 10:12:15 PM
Really wish I had a compelling reason to use Kushinada. Her super ultimate art is very high on my list of favorite arts in the game, but I can't see myself using her over Awoken Susano very often. Not that I use green pretty much ever, but I like him more as a rainbow option and I think I would lean toward him on most green teams too.

I guess I have two Liu Beis, so I could make an Awoken Liu Bei team and use her for a shield with a row.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on July 14, 2016, 01:48:58 AM
Really wish I had a compelling reason to use Kushinada.
I use her as a leader for tricolor dungeons and as a shield sub on my green team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 14, 2016, 07:49:59 PM
My previous phone crapped out so I'm having to play with a new one, one with a bigger screen and it's screwing me up a bit rather
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 14, 2016, 08:14:52 PM
My previous phone crapped out so I'm having to play with a new one, one with a bigger screen and it's screwing me up a bit rather

I personally find that larger screens are more tiring to use, but make diagonals waaaay easier. At first it'll take some getting used to, though. Good luck!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 15, 2016, 12:16:25 AM
Seems like we're scheduled for an update on the 20th, so 5 days after agni comes out. Could this be 9.2?

Also nobunaga is probably appearing next dark gala, the end is nigh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 15, 2016, 12:32:04 AM
I'm all ready for Awoken Sun Quan (well not really, need more Bubpiis, but still). Is he on the horizon?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 15, 2016, 01:33:34 AM
Looks like 9.2 is definitely coming up. That means we finally get to see what's in our mail :3

If I remember correctly, the new evos came a few days after the 9.2 update. That includes SQ and LB, Dragon Callers, next set of Descended Ults, and some others I can't remember. Miru and Ace also did come along too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 15, 2016, 02:51:27 AM
Are MechUlts in 9.2? Or is that 9.3? My evomats are ready.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 15, 2016, 03:12:23 AM
They came out about 2 weeks ago (before 9.3) so it'll be a while until we see them. So I guess the accurate answer would be 9.2 but probably after about a month or so, unless NA decides to release them earlier.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 15, 2016, 06:51:52 AM
Miru and Ace also did come along too.
:*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 15, 2016, 07:08:09 AM
I... never really looked into Miru before now. Holy shit, she's amazing. 10/10 would stonefeed her dungeon if need be
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 15, 2016, 12:27:12 PM
next "collab" looks like christmas in july

go roll for easy delay girls if you don't have them already
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 15, 2016, 01:11:20 PM
thanks coop pal :)

(http://i.imgur.com/1kvyDqe.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 16, 2016, 03:31:00 AM
I theoretically have my M+ Nordis farm to just about 100%, but I'm starting to get really bored of this and am making a lot of mistakes as a result. Only need three more red resist latents to get to 21%. Probably not going to give them to Gabe as well since he pulls double duty as a Neptune Dragon sub and they're nearly useless there, and they just seem less cool than +RCVs, but I could theoretically go up to 26% resist if I wanted to. It'd be great if I could get the last few I need during PreDras tomorrow because I don't really want to do this any more. Have gotten a ton of experience, +eggs, MP, and super kings out of it, but it's getting really tiring. When I see the green dragon knight spawn I just want to quit half the time, he slows runs down by so much...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 16, 2016, 04:44:51 AM
I hate how Row Teams and Combo shields DO NOT mix well, another Skuldable dungeon.

Also just 3 hours and 15 mins and a few secs left so i can try to get Waifuterasu.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 16, 2016, 04:46:01 AM
legend plus just aint what it used to be

(http://i.imgur.com/O13N9Ku.png)(http://i.imgur.com/FBQIJjn.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 16, 2016, 11:39:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/i79sYzT.jpg)

Husbando clear, but also, importantly, an excuse to use Beyzul again even though I have Charite now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 16, 2016, 01:19:45 PM
Here goes...... some (revelant/non-silver anfdnon-dupe) of the results !

(http://i.imgur.com/FnXjvo4.jpg)

Nice roll ! Will be great to pair it up with Zengar's or Chirei's Freyjas.

(http://i.imgur.com/YlsUNT5.jpg)

.....wrong att. Gungho.

(http://i.imgur.com/N3jGyJi.jpg)

Oh, new GFE draw, although i have no idea how to use him.

(http://i.imgur.com/Bi9MIHv.jpg)

Huh, first Odin, not too shabby.

Part 2 coming up soon !
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 16, 2016, 01:29:59 PM
Part 2:

(http://i.imgur.com/OGTDWfq.jpg)

Ohh, Satsuki huh ? Not bad !

And last but not least:

(http://i.imgur.com/zPvJH5e.jpg)

Yup, third Denebola, two more to go for a full Denebola Team.





...... yes, no Waifuterasu..... it's okay, there's always next time, and i can still farm some easy stones.....

Gungho why ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 16, 2016, 01:48:27 PM
yoloing for napoleon

(http://i.imgur.com/IZYMwX3.png)

rare attribute combination like droid, twice as quick as droid, cool name. i'll gladly take it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 16, 2016, 01:55:12 PM
Yoloroll:
(http://imgur.com/rCklFVb.png)
Okay, that's evil. What the heck do I do with this?
I mean, most dupes have a niche team to go with them, but Australis?

Roll 2:
(http://imgur.com/uBDOH2M.png)
Eh, acceptable.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 16, 2016, 02:12:18 PM
Hanzo and Shotel.

Oh yeah. That's why I don't roll non-collabs anymore.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 16, 2016, 02:17:51 PM
Yoloroll:
(http://imgur.com/rCklFVb.png)
Okay, that's evil. What the heck do I do with this?
I mean, most dupes have a niche team to go with them, but Australis?
Coop man, Australis is a great sub and you can compensate his lack of SBR and SB with a combo of your's and your friend's SB and SBR.

I don't see anyone complaining about Scheat's lack either. (Granted she does have a SB, but TPAs only affect herself.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 16, 2016, 08:13:48 PM
>Gold
...oh, another evo'd Berry Dragon.  [sold]

>gold
Oh, another Verdandi.  I guess I have to keep this in case she's useful sometime.  Now if a certain OTHER Norn could bother joining my team...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 16, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
Oh man, hnk collab needs to come back quick because I just found Yuria, who is one of the perfectest miru subs I can think of. AS increases heart drop rate for 3 turns and spawns 3 heart orbs from non-lights. She also has a TE, a light row, a SB, and an SBR.
I highly doubt it's going to be back for at the very least a couple months, but anyone have any idea how often collabs return?

e: and when it returns in jp, they better give souther a new light cross ls like ruroken
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 16, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
Collab resurgence rate is not fixed; it's usually coinciding with some new update in whatever franchise etc with the exception of ShinraBansho which is pretty much a yearly deal and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 17, 2016, 01:39:24 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/9GACkm0.jpg)

If J?rmangandr gave 4 water orbs to TPA I'm pretty sure i could have OHKO'D but that's fine too
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 17, 2016, 04:25:23 AM
Well, I don't have to farm Nordis any more. Because a fuuuucking blue resist latent turned up in my M+ Nordis runs. Does anyone know where the red resists have gone off to and what caused this change?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 17, 2016, 04:33:27 AM
Well, I don't have to farm Nordis any more. Because a fuuuucking blue resist latent turned up in my M+ Nordis runs. Does anyone know where the red resists have gone off to and what caused this change?

The coin dungeons rotated today.

Light resists should be turning up in Volsung for me, which means you now get to go fight Zaerog for Fire resists.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 17, 2016, 04:35:10 AM
Oh shit, I completely missed the rotation.

Zaerog isn't bad. He's faster and safer than Nordis. He may be the fastest and safest M+, if not Volsung.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 17, 2016, 06:39:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Od6QJpf.jpg)

No-grav MHera farming teams coop
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 17, 2016, 08:11:19 AM
Did 2 rolls and I got:

Sumire #2
Sumire #3

Time to go find some tables to flip.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 17, 2016, 08:15:06 AM
Two Amon in a row...
Hmm.

But Andromeda already covers red to blue...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 17, 2016, 09:59:17 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/eD54SyN.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/7y3Jeec.jpg)

gettin head from M'hera =O

yes those were not the same runs xD
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 17, 2016, 02:09:41 PM
Coop man, Australis is a great sub and you can compensate his lack of SBR and SB with a combo of your's and your friend's SB and SBR.

I don't see anyone complaining about Scheat's lack either. (Granted she does have a SB, but TPAs only affect herself.)

Is Australis a good sub for Australis, though?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 17, 2016, 02:15:44 PM
Is Australis a good sub for Australis, though?

Australis isnt a good lead period. Lead with Star Justice, Perseus, Michael, Sylvie etc. with two Australis subs.

I sold my second Australis and now I regret it a bit after seeing Star Justice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 17, 2016, 02:24:05 PM
I sold my second Australis and now I regret it a bit after seeing Star Justice.

Wait for Machine Athena :B
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 17, 2016, 03:57:58 PM
>Baal
>Dupe Yukimura
I'm more than okay with this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 17, 2016, 05:11:51 PM
Just wondering, is anyone going to bother with the PazuDora Cross fusion Gods, when they release? They're solidly better than the pre UUEvo gods, but I don't know if they're good compared to other UEvo forms.
I'm talking about:

Waste of a Bestcat, IMO (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2929)
Horus UUEvo (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2927)
Zeus UUEvo (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2928)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 17, 2016, 05:23:23 PM
Just wondering, is anyone going to bother with the PazuDora Cross fusion Gods, when they release? They're solidly better than the pre UUEvo gods, but I don't know if they're good compared to other UEvo forms.
I'm talking about:

Waste of a Bestcat, IMO (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2929)

Whoa whoa whoa hold on there pal, why is he a waste of a Bestet ?

The LS has a big improvement, going to 12x max mult, he got a Godkiller and an extra OE in place of the TPA and Poison Resists, why is this bad ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 17, 2016, 06:05:16 PM
Because now there's no waifu appeal :V :V :V

TBH I didn't look at the LS or AS :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Espadas on July 17, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
Hey guys, it has been quite some time since i last posted here. RL and a bit of the game feeling stale kept me away....

I'm considering returning to play semi-stable but i have heard something worrying: has the game really shifted to "coop or gtfo"?
That would be a major blow since i play at random hours and living in Europe makes meeting up with US players a nightmare.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 17, 2016, 10:25:39 PM
Hey guys, it has been quite some time since i last posted here. RL and a bit of the game feeling stale kept me away....

I'm considering returning to play semi-stable but i have heard something worrying: has the game really shifted to "coop or gtfo"?
That would be a major blow since i play at random hours and living in Europe makes meeting up with US players a nightmare.....

I only coop when I need to help people or I feel like taking on something super endgamey that pretty much needs it - it's worked out just fine for me. I'm currently solo-farming Mythical+ stuff for MP simply because the convenience outweighs the 25 stamina i'd save per run.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 18, 2016, 02:15:55 AM
I'm considering returning to play semi-stable but i have heard something worrying: has the game really shifted to "coop or gtfo"?
That would be a major blow since i play at random hours and living in Europe makes meeting up with US players a nightmare.....

At the moment, I don't think it's "coop or gtfo" yet but I feel having coop options does definitely help.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 18, 2016, 04:10:02 AM
Fuuuuck I've only lost two Zaerog Infinity M+ runs all day and they were the two where the red resists spawned. Just incidentally too, it's not like the Tamadras messed up my run. I am getting so tired of this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 18, 2016, 05:59:43 AM
My one good panda friend is back, hooray!
Coop has half stamina costs and you get extra pal points and also mp. So good rewards but the game is still playable solo.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 18, 2016, 06:34:48 AM
Preparing for x5 skillup...

(http://i.imgur.com/UzycMvB.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 18, 2016, 12:27:48 PM
Hmm. Doing Christmas REM pulls is probably a bit wasteful since I already have what I want (Paulina) and just pulled a ton of shitty Liliths aside from that, but the Christmas angel is a supercutie and I do still want her. One pull couldn't hurt too bad.

-Lilith

Are you fucking kidding me?

Nobody touch this scum machine, it's fucking trash.

Then again apparently like 75% of you got the rarest thing from the wedding REM on your second try or whatever, so who knows?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 18, 2016, 12:49:23 PM
Then again apparently like 75% of you got the rarest thing from the wedding REM on your second try or whatever, so who knows?

yeah I got nothing 6* or higher from the Wedding REM in 30 rolls. :|
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 18, 2016, 03:18:44 PM
Then again apparently like 75% of you got the rarest thing from the wedding REM on your second try or whatever, so who knows?

*Looks at Bride Catte*

Uhhhh, yea, guilty as charged, but really it was just dumb luck, remember that i didn't get waifu.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Pesco on July 19, 2016, 01:34:33 AM
Let's just say it took the sum of a few people's ages in rolls for me to get Eschawaifu
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 19, 2016, 01:55:29 AM
Let it be said that x5 skillup bonus is NOT a lie

(http://i.imgur.com/VIDTuC5.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 19, 2016, 03:34:14 PM
-Lilith

Are you fucking kidding me?

Ayy, I got a Lilith. That'd be my third, but then again, I did get a BrideCat, so.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 19, 2016, 03:47:43 PM
Got a Siren, cute, but i wanted Alraune to pair up with mine. (Also, Wood Delay and all that)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 19, 2016, 07:13:30 PM
I rolled once during Christmas 2.0, got my CAlraune, nothing in there is worth me going in on.

RKali:  "Which one do you want?"

"Not you."  (I think Chirei made that joke when I expressed this back in December)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on July 20, 2016, 02:17:30 AM
either super king carnival never showed up or padx was wrong. lame

edit lul padx was just wrong
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 20, 2016, 03:06:24 AM
(http://imgur.com/ErhXd6o.jpg)

Good yolo roll. I'm sure I can make use of this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 20, 2016, 03:17:30 AM
either super king carnival never showed up or padx was wrong. lame

edit lul padx was just wrong
The latter. People were having time issues going by PDX all over the place I've heard, it's not just you.  I have heard PADGuide was more accurate though so maybe consider grabbing that?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 20, 2016, 03:20:33 AM
(http://imgur.com/ErhXd6o.jpg)

Good yolo roll. I'm sure I can make use of this.

Daaaaang those are good awakenings. I don't usually spend too much time think about special REM golds since the odds of getting them on purpose are basically zero, but imagining a blue equivalent to that is piquing my interest.

There, uh... Isn't a blue equivalent in some trap REM somewhere, is there?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on July 20, 2016, 03:45:15 AM
beach karin should be arriving in summer rem by my speculation

which is clearly never wrong

cao cao whos that

sounds like a loser
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 20, 2016, 04:06:26 AM
But without a SBR, Christmas Byakko is questionable as a lead...

Unless you have a 2x SBR like the mechanical stars :)

You think Byakko/DMeta (with Goetia, bind clear, or this guy (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2695) linked)/Zaerogoo/Castor/DR Persephone/Byakko could work?

Maybe. I have the hypermax Zaerogoo, Persephone, and Castor already, so I won't need to invest too much more.

(http://i.imgur.com/Slo1vjF.jpg)

Huh. I guess it was fortunate that I ran Devil Rush yesterday. Didn't really need that God Killer of DR anyways.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 20, 2016, 06:15:04 AM
(https://i.redditmedia.com/E8PVb_9ZJHoaoTjBMmQ56wIM61128B1bdvjWcaGbi40.jpg?w=1024&s=63b67bf6e5e30612d5bcc7c6a5dc3edc)

pad_dead
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 20, 2016, 08:37:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H32DQqzeW10 <-- Next PAD stream here, next week 7/28. 7 PM JST.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 20, 2016, 11:06:14 PM
nobunaga is here, welcome to the endgame

and apparently the maintenance is indeed v9.2
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 20, 2016, 11:43:38 PM
nobunaga is here, welcome to the endgame

Oh cool, time to throw Neptune Dragon in the trash because Way Better In Virtually Every Way Black Neptune Dragon is here. Bite a dick black, may your MP dragon be aggressively shit all over by a blue card some day.

/bitterness

Okay, so what does Neptune Dragon have that makes him not just a strictly trash-tier Nobunaga? Maybe it's not actually that bad. Let's look at it.

-More versatile and arguably better sub pool. Neptune Dragon can use anything, Nobunaga can only use devils. How many non-devil cards would Nobunaga even want to run? No idea. Even despite that NepDra arguably has a better sub pool since it has access to a number of physical blue row orbchangers, which augment his lack of HP modifier and have everything he cares about. Then again, Nobunaga has Awoken Pandora to fill the same role. Not sure what Nobunaga teams look like, but if they stack enough Pandas maybe they don't care.

-Considerably higher weighted stats, although it's all in HP since Nobunaga has much higher ATK and RCV, and his HP is still passable. That's important though, since again these guys have no HP modifier so they can get a bit light on HP very easily.

-More awakenings. Kind of not really though, since NepDra's black row BARELY matters. It's not irrelevant, but it comes up rarely.

-Unlike Nobunaga, NepDra has at least one skillboost. His skill takes more than twice as long to charge, granted, but it's helpful for subs.

-Way more rows. This is the first one of these that's an actual full upside and not just a half-victory, although it is tempered a bit by the fact that Nobunaga's attack is higher.

-Niche active matters sometimes. It's legit super useful for PreDras. Sucks for pretty much everything else, but PreDras are extremely relevant so being good against those does matter.

-Way prettier.

-Farmable, technically.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 21, 2016, 01:11:05 AM
-Way prettier.
Wow, someone that doesn't hate the mp dragon arts. I have no idea why people dislike them so much, I think they look fine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on July 21, 2016, 01:48:58 AM
Wait people actually hate ragdrag art? I thought it was the coolest thing ever
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 21, 2016, 01:51:49 AM
Wait people actually hate ragdrag art? I thought it was the coolest thing ever
The exception that proves the rule.  I'm totally in the camp of "wow the others are hideous" though, but to each their own!  I think even though I personally dislike that style it's good that they're there for variety.

RagDra's is totally cool though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 21, 2016, 03:21:58 AM

-More versatile and arguably better sub pool. Neptune Dragon can use anything, Nobunaga can only use devils. How many non-devil cards would Nobunaga even want to run? No idea. Even despite that NepDra arguably has a better sub pool since it has access to a number of physical blue row orbchangers, which augment his lack of HP modifier and have everything he cares about. Then again, Nobunaga has Awoken Pandora to fill the same role. Not sure what Nobunaga teams look like, but if they stack enough Pandas maybe they don't care.


(http://i.imgur.com/T65ec7V.jpg)

Nobunaga's HP is much worse than Neptune Dragon which is pretty much the only edge I'd give Nepdra over Nobbu, since x81 for 8 orbs >>>>>>>>>>>>> x36 for 11 fucking orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 21, 2016, 02:20:55 PM
I was going to say that thete was nothing cool hiding in my box after all and that I'm disappointed, but then, near the end...

-Bubpii

Yaaaay! Just what I wanted!


By the way, did anyone else have their phone's status/notification bar thing turn blue since the update? Mine did and it's really distracting. Is there a way to turn that back?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 21, 2016, 02:44:48 PM
I was going to say that thete was nothing cool hiding in my box after all and that I'm disappointed, but then, near the end...

-Bubpii

Yaaaay! Just what I wanted!


By the way, did anyone else have their phone's status/notification bar thing turn blue since the update? Mine did and it's really distracting. Is there a way to turn that back?

mine's fine
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 21, 2016, 02:48:29 PM
Mainly jewels/Tans as expected, but I did find a Bubpy of my own which is wonderful timing since I suddenly need to de-evo SQ and prepare for his new form!

Relatedly, WHY IS IT ALWAYS ZHOU YU!?  *tableflip*

Luckily I can Descended Carnival him, but I need JttW to come back so I can hunt down a boar as well since I didn't have the forethought to prepare in advance.  Alas.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 21, 2016, 02:56:07 PM
So in order to get this guy in JP:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnzVrsqVUAA0URw.jpg)

They expect you to beat a completely new set of challenge dungeons within one hour of release. If you are not awake during that specific hour, then you lose out on the guy forever.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 21, 2016, 03:02:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vxv57bf.jpg)

Speaking of San Quan.

Need one more Bubpy (and like ten more for Blodin after that, but whatever). Losing that row sucks a tiny bit, but the rest more than makes up for it, obvs. Just need the one Bubpy and a few more red resist latents and I'll be ready for Arena 2.

Also evident: Blue status bar. I'll have to look into that more later.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 21, 2016, 05:48:40 PM
a!! what is that I see? On the page I see, that miru, or myr now, is now actually in the na game files ><

but not only that, it seems like the hnk collab just got an update (where's my souther cross ls), which means it's bound to come back sometime. wow. I wish and gungho giveth
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 21, 2016, 06:53:07 PM
Scraped one more Christmas roll, Ars Paulina get, I can be completely satisfied now with this REM.  Luckily I didn't want any of the gold eggs so I don't need to worry about that anymore.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on July 22, 2016, 02:04:46 AM
By the way, did anyone else have their phone's status/notification bar thing turn blue since the update? Mine did and it's really distracting. Is there a way to turn that back?

mine did too

They expect you to beat a completely new set of challenge dungeons within one hour of release. If you are not awake during that specific hour, then you lose out on the guy forever.

that's not a lot of time even

6 minutes a challenge dungeon, at most iirc, unless it's a smaller one

i mean you can make up time of the first three but...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 22, 2016, 02:11:10 AM
mine did too

Hmm. Well, let me know if you figure out anything about it. I haven't been able to really find anything with Google since phrasing the inquiry is kind of tricky.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 22, 2016, 02:34:44 AM
I haven't been able to really find anything with Google since phrasing the inquiry is kind of tricky.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+blue+notification+bar+after+update (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+blue+notification+bar+after+update)
EDIT: Maybe that was a little rude.

I haven't checked all of the results, but around half of the first page seems to be relevant. :derp:
It's probably less that the inquiry is difficult, and more so that not enough people have experienced it/made a post online a decent while ago.
If it helps at all, it looks like a theme. Maybe you have the Lollipop theme installed? IIRC it does that. Mine did, at least, when I used Android phones.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 22, 2016, 02:52:43 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+blue+notification+bar+after+update (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+blue+notification+bar+after+update)
EDIT: Maybe that was a little rude.

Maybe, but that doesn't seem to really address the problem at all. Those all seem to be issues with Android updates, this is a PAD thing. Like, I only have the blue status bar when PAD is open. Maybe I'm being dense and failing to see the connection, but I don't see the connection.

It's probably less that the inquiry is difficult, and more so that not enough people have experienced it/made a post online a decent while ago.

Given that this is a PAD problem and "blue" is a common word in PAD it skews the results quite a lot.

If it helps at all, it looks like a theme. Maybe you have the Lollipop theme installed? IIRC it does that. Mine did, at least, when I used Android phones.

Doesn't seem to be. I just have the same default Anroid theme installed that I have since I got the phone.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 22, 2016, 03:09:40 AM
Welp, my bad. I thought it was related to Android itself :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on July 22, 2016, 05:30:39 AM
From the posts I've seen in this thread so far as well as observations from others the blue status bar only happens with the latest version of the game on Samsung ROMs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 22, 2016, 10:14:03 AM
They expect you to beat a completely new set of challenge dungeons within one hour of release. If you are not awake during that specific hour, then you lose out on the guy forever.
A friend and I were talking about that earlier today. We both agreed that it's ridiculous, especially considering not only players have to deal with the specific times, they gotta spend 550 stamina to clear all 10. That's literally a magic stone or 2 (or even more), assuming each dungeon is cleared on the first try. But I guess since it's GungHo, it's not too much of a surprise :V

Relatedly, WHY IS IT ALWAYS ZHOU YU!?  *tableflip*
At least this one makes sense :3 SQ's best strategist during the Three Kingdoms Era.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 22, 2016, 01:08:34 PM
"I guess I'll roll again; maybe I'll get an Echidna or Paulina. That'd be nice.
But wait... If I roll again, I might get another Lilith...
If I get another Lilith, I'ma flip my-"

*silver egg*
RARE!
LILITH :getdown:

gg GungHo, you win this time.
actually they win everytime because they get teh moneh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 22, 2016, 01:32:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/nq1r7Zh.jpg)

send help.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 22, 2016, 03:26:30 PM
"I guess I'll roll again; maybe I'll get an Echidna or Paulina. That'd be nice.
But wait... If I roll again, I might get another Lilith...
If I get another Lilith, I'ma flip my-"

*silver egg*
RARE!
LILITH :getdown:

gg GungHo, you win this time.
actually they win everytime because they get teh moneh

stop blowing your stones on holiday collabs people

s e r i o u s l y
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 22, 2016, 10:14:55 PM
I found a way to make shynpy less useless

(http://i.imgur.com/1ujLLY8.png) (http://i.imgur.com/MXBVenX.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 22, 2016, 10:39:18 PM
Was Shynpy ever bad? I mean, sure there aren't as many good Lt. monsters, but Shynpiis are still useful.

And also. What is the limit on that "randomized damage"?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 22, 2016, 11:00:55 PM
I believe 50x its ATK?

EDIT:  I was wrong.  50x is the LOWER limit.  50x-100x.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 22, 2016, 11:50:35 PM
Was Shynpy ever bad? I mean, sure there aren't as many good Lt. monsters, but Shynpiis are still useful.
It's really based on each player's needs. They're good if you're building a light-based team, or you're using light monsters in your team(s). If you don't bother with light monsters, then yeah, they're not really useful (unless you do skill inheritance). And the same can be said with the other 4 Piis of course.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 23, 2016, 08:21:28 AM
I was kinda annoyed about rolling librarian kali back in the academy collab somehow but now that I think about it I guess she can replace kushi on my Kirin team (cause she's still relevant). And I can't think of a more convenient skill up for her than the current, metalits.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 24, 2016, 12:22:53 PM
I got the tamazo.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoIOMhiVIAEGgm-.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 25, 2016, 03:49:17 PM
Is it just me or are Challenge 10s getting easier? I mean, I know my team keeps getting better, but I feel like they're getting easier as well, even discounting co-op.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 25, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
More Armor UEvos, this time it`s Ana`s.

(http://i.imgur.com/50WmPnO.jpg)

Divine Law Goddess, Valkyrie Armor
Healer / God / Attacker
Active: Changes Heal to Light orbs. Enhances Light orbs.
LS: 3x ATK to Healer and God type cards. 2x ATK for 3+ Light combo.

(http://i.imgur.com/CCuUlmI.jpg)

Holy Ceres Armor
God / Healer
Active: Full HP and bind recovery. 1 turn haste.
LS: 1.5x ATK for clearing each cross Wood or Light orb. 4x ATK with Wood+Light combo.

(http://i.imgur.com/W2wj6gm.jpg)

Chaotic Black Dragonbound, Typhon Armor
Dragon / Balanced
Active: Changes board into Fire, Water, Dark, and Heal orbs. 2 turns haste.
LS: An HP/ATK boost (1.3x or 1.35x) to Dragon types. 6x ATK and 35% damage reduction when matching Heal orbs in a cross formation
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 25, 2016, 09:29:07 PM
Doesn't that mean it's the exact same thing as normal Typhon, just different art and no time wasted evolving?
EDIT: Nevermind, Typhon has no cross defense.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 25, 2016, 09:39:03 PM
Doesn't that mean it's the exact same thing as normal Typhon, just different art and no time wasted evolving?
EDIT: Nevermind, Typhon has no cross defense.

it's a super ult for typhon so you have to evolve him anyway lol...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 25, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
it's a super ult for typhon so you have to evolve him anyway lol...

Oh :(
That's a lot of time investment just to give Typhon cross heal.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 25, 2016, 10:05:57 PM
Doesn't that mean it's the exact same thing as normal Typhon, just different art and no time wasted evolving?
EDIT: Nevermind, Typhon has no cross defense.

It does a ton of stuff Typhon doesn't. More haste, adds a dragon attack boost, requires less orbs to get max multiplier (although no option to get a smaller multiplier), and higher HP and attack. On top of the damage reduction from the cross.

Oh :(
That's a lot of time investment just to give Typhon cross heal.

You have impossibly high standards.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 25, 2016, 10:29:02 PM
Just goes to show how often I use Typhon :V
And pertaining to the cross-resist comment, I'm still not far enough to see the need for it; I'm not getting instakilled yet. Until it shoves itself in my face, which it will when I start to get up the Challenge Dungeons, I'm not going to truly understand how useful that is.
EDIT: Yeah, I'm kinda stupid like that :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 25, 2016, 10:58:32 PM
And pertaining to the cross-resist comment, I'm still not far enough to see the need for it

you can reduce any and all damage by 57.75% any time you have five hearts

how do you not see this as useful AT ALL
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 25, 2016, 11:50:27 PM
 :o

I really am out of it today.

*mindblank*

 :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 26, 2016, 02:07:10 AM
So I kind of forgot that I was still in Challenge 10 from earlier today, on the Nordis fight. I opened PAD, turned him red with Charite, and had him use Dragontree Shield no fewer than seven times in a row (why does a green boss have a blue absorb, anyway..?). I was starting to think using Elemental Jammer on him had triggered some kind of secret invincibility pattern, but he eventually broke out of it. And died. Must feel bad to feel like you have to cheat that hard to complete, then still lose. Poor Nordis...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 27, 2016, 04:32:25 AM
Dang, challenge 9 is much harder than challenge 10. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 27, 2016, 07:29:42 PM
Level 3 JP Challenge Dungeon gives a +99 Tamadra, if anyone is interested. It also gives LValk.

Also, 女の子 is a really unintuitive name for a Chibi Gacha, so I rolled once and got Chibi Isis.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 27, 2016, 09:11:29 PM
Also, 女の子 is a really unintuitive name for a Chibi Gacha, so I rolled once and got Chibi Isis.
It's not exactly a Chibi REM. The REM, which is females-only,  has some from June Bride and PAD Academy (Eschamali, Kali, etc), while introducing new Chibis (Sylvie, Ryune, Saria, LKali, Sonia Gran) with a few old ones.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 28, 2016, 07:22:54 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/VS5VW64.png) (http://i.imgur.com/36cQZ6R.jpg)

Cool, having this guy opens up some new green options.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on July 28, 2016, 08:46:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/SPgAkOH.png)(http://i.imgur.com/wk2B1bx.png)

Miru is OP.
Arena 3 cleared on multi.
Got Zeus Dragon on 22th floor but no drops. Oh well...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 28, 2016, 03:10:11 PM
only good thing about the stream everyone else go home

(http://i.imgur.com/9SZrXjo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/z2JzF4D.jpgg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 28, 2016, 03:25:56 PM
Tsubaki never deserved this cruelty, GH.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2016, 03:28:26 PM
only good thing about the stream everyone else go home

(http://i.imgur.com/9SZrXjo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/z2JzF4D.jpgg)

Hmm yup. Yup those are both great. A+.

Give now though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 28, 2016, 03:44:13 PM
Sengoku ults at long last o/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 28, 2016, 03:45:00 PM
Cuteness with mecha sharks, perfect.

Now i just need Sumire.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on July 28, 2016, 05:21:21 PM
huh, padz cards might be useful now

sengoku finally becoming good again

new gfes are.... interesting....?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 28, 2016, 08:42:21 PM
More Fist of the North Collab LOL. Must be an annual thing with Shinrabansho.

Alrescha's and Spica's artwork looks awesome (looking forward to evolving Alrescha on both servers), and it'll be interesting to see the split ults for Sengoku. It also seems like they're gonna push for the new cross meta with the new GFEs.  I'll have to admit: I'd love to have at least one of them so I can see what fun I can get with it.

On an unrelated note: now that the Dragoncallers got their UEvo, I'm having so much with Sumire and Kaede (no Tsubaki unfortunately) :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on July 28, 2016, 09:18:56 PM
final bun analysis: i legitimately can't wait for the padz ults, they seem like they might be very nice for co-ops

sanada is less rip than before but i'm pretty sure taquito will still offer far too much for him to see regular use, but he's good tbh

oe on oe based skill fucking where though

new gfes don't really interest me but are obviously good

alrescha and spica are kinda cute
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 28, 2016, 10:10:20 PM
right on time

(http://i.imgur.com/cJVOOhQ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/cJVOOhQ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Qe7VJV6.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 28, 2016, 10:27:02 PM
Oh wow new akechi art looks hella smex, 10/10 would marry off to panda.
New light demon finally introduces the light+ heart spawn active except she seems slightly potentially spikier than miru so idk
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2016, 11:37:38 PM
Are there actually no Dragon Caller skillups right now? My Sumire needs two more skillups and PDX doesn't have any listed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 28, 2016, 11:46:56 PM
If i remember correctly, they` re on a rotation like the Sonias, i think it` s the jewels, so you gotta wait unfortunately.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 29, 2016, 02:03:33 AM
If i remember correctly, they` re on a rotation like the Sonias, i think it` s the jewels, so you gotta wait unfortunately.

They're getting a biweekly soon.

only good thing about the stream everyone else go home

Those are the Leader version of ults without God Killer, wait later for the superior split ult

New light demon finally introduces the light+ heart spawn active except she seems slightly potentially spikier than miru so idk

Miru = x49

Paimon = x729 on a 5x6 board (2 Light Cross + 1 heart cross)

you tell me
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 29, 2016, 02:55:28 AM
wait later for the superior split ult

no one needs to wait, the legs are already here
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 29, 2016, 05:11:34 AM
Miru = x49

Paimon = x729 on a 5x6 board (2 Light Cross + 1 heart cross)

you tell me
wao
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on July 29, 2016, 07:45:35 AM
Anyone want to coop Myr tonight? I'm set up to run blue or light teams
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 29, 2016, 12:43:35 PM
Sure, if you don't mind waiting for me to wrap up solo attempts and assuming I have stamina left. I'll probably be on IRC if you don't find anyone else.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 29, 2016, 07:29:19 PM
hey ccool what do you put in your three friend slots

I might bff you depending on the answer
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 29, 2016, 09:18:09 PM
Awoken Ra (first slot), Awoken Pandora (BF slot) and either Gabriel or Neptune Dragon (last use slot).

Why, what you looking for? I might be able to swap Ra out since as far as I know my Ra BFs don't log in any more and I have very few Awoken Ra friends.

Edit: Then again, if I do that you won't need to BF me to get the benefit. :V Panda's disposable as far as I care, that's really up to Moogs since as far as I know he's the only one who uses that slot. What do you think Moogs, do you have enough other Awoken Pandora friends that you won't miss mine, or would you rather I leave her up? It doesn't matter a ton to me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 29, 2016, 10:34:26 PM
Ay, got 2 Sambas and an Extreme King in the same roll set :)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 29, 2016, 10:46:08 PM
Awoken Ra (first slot), Awoken Pandora (BF slot) and either Gabriel or Neptune Dragon (last use slot).

Why, what you looking for?

Nepdra
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 29, 2016, 11:03:19 PM
Well, he's there much of the time. He's probably been the least reliably available one of tbe things I listed, but I suppose it would be easy to move him into a full-time home. I
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 30, 2016, 04:03:57 AM
hey matsy

(https://i.redditmedia.com/sNAyBT6PXJ_gECH89bG1cKUbXZkmZ0Z19XVOEws3RI0.jpg?w=1024&s=9a4cfbc7405b6d97b04e0ef5a3019802)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Edible on July 30, 2016, 04:36:13 AM
Sweet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 30, 2016, 06:33:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/q8yZ7Wq.jpg)

Sweet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 30, 2016, 07:18:00 AM
Of course it'd finally fucking happen when I have next to no stones :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on July 30, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Ah dang wish I read about it coming over before stoning for myr skill ups.

And that dungeon surprisingly catches me sometimes with weird deaths, though half of it's probably from being in a car
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on July 30, 2016, 10:46:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Z5LTZQj.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/oh0sB77.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/46GXQK6.jpg)

yeyeye I joined the cool kids club am i cool now  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Yukarin on July 30, 2016, 01:27:10 PM
Completely unrelated but a friend of mine (who mains Nephthys) recently wrote a fic of Neph and Haku chilling (http://archiveofourown.org/works/7626901) and it was really good so I just wanted to share.

More relatedly, I managed to clear Miru solo, at the cost of two stones because Time Saw hurts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 30, 2016, 02:25:22 PM
two stones

 :derp: :derp: :derp:

Good job anyways, though!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Yukarin on July 30, 2016, 04:25:02 PM
:derp: :derp: :derp:

Good job anyways, though!

It could have been a 0-stone too because I missed a killboard, and another after I stoned.

Was pretty salty after that XD
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on July 30, 2016, 05:52:13 PM
(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXVWtGUGFEU29ZT3M)
Woohoo! First pentamax!

Requesting star and glow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on July 30, 2016, 11:26:53 PM
Just ran Myr through evo materials and tanked everyone' kill moves. Can't wait to get her max skilled because she's really heart orbs hungry
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 31, 2016, 08:12:48 AM
Looks like I landed a dupe Sherias and Blodin.

I'm certain that Sherias/Sherias/Blodin/Alrescha/???/Sherias can work as a team, because lol Kali boards with hastes.

Also got a Muse. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 31, 2016, 12:50:36 PM
... I&I get? I guess?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on July 31, 2016, 02:02:38 PM
I got... Kano :V
Right after I rolled her on the JP Event Gacha.
And the NA Waifu Gacha.
Except this time it's not Waifu Kano.
It's just... normal Kano.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 31, 2016, 02:07:18 PM
Rrrrrrrocky Balllllbooooaaaaaaaaaa apparently.

Seems...maybe passable...?

Killers are nice, but situational active is sitiational etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 31, 2016, 02:20:08 PM
50% damage reduction, even if only for a turn, is always good.

The only bad thing, I think, is being limited to five awoken skills because he's a 5-star GFE. Having two killers eats up a lot of space.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on July 31, 2016, 02:27:35 PM
Ooooo, got Orochi, Skuld Team Upgraded.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on July 31, 2016, 02:28:29 PM
I own exactly half of tbe GFEs so I shouldn't really do any pulls, but oh well. One is fine.

Gold egg!

-Beast Rider (fourth copy)

Lolnothx.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 31, 2016, 03:25:05 PM
oh hey mechdragons on x20 plus eggs

I also need Byakko skillups SO who wants to beat up Hadar a bunch for MP and plusses?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on July 31, 2016, 03:57:17 PM
50% damage reduction, even if only for a turn, is always good.
I...have Susano.

OTL

Ah well Im sure I'll find some use dowm the line.  Balboa can pair with Awoken Artemis if I want so I suppose there is that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on July 31, 2016, 08:24:33 PM
Ooooo, got Orochi, Skuld Team Upgraded.
Oh hey, I got him too.

Did only one roll for now since I'm more interested in the Day 2 lineup. Although if my luck matches what I got over on JP, it won't matter :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 01, 2016, 03:07:07 AM
my myr ignored a whole 5 at once skill up which was bbbbbbsssssss but I'm two away from max and now she's ascended welp.

Anyone else here planning on using her? I still have a bestie stick lying around
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on August 01, 2016, 10:01:49 AM
Holy scheat I got a scheat oh and a third tsubaki
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 01, 2016, 01:25:55 PM
Freyr.  Ok game I get it, work on ALei.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 01, 2016, 02:43:08 PM
Managed to have enough stones for one more pull and got a dupe Australis. Not entirely sure if I'll use any of them at some point but his skill is pretty good for inheritance, at the very least. I'll consider what to do once I see after the Ruroken collab results.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on August 01, 2016, 03:15:36 PM
Yoloroll result: earth dragon swordsman
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 01, 2016, 03:39:25 PM
Mine gave me a Chiyome.

Is this PAD's way of saying i should work on my runs more often ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 01, 2016, 03:44:18 PM
Alright, I never learn. Let's do pulls until I get something I don't like.

-Shaitan

Don't like. That was fast.

It's a fucking blue gala, why couldn't that have been the blue one?

Edit: Ah god dammit, the more I think about this fest the better an idea it seems, since there's blue gala shit I want (elemental, dragon swordsman) and if I miss I still might get a nice dupe.

More foolish pulls it is.

-Ryune!
-Zuoh (duplicate)
-Snow White (duplicate)

Huh. Worth it I guess? I don't really need my owm Ryune, but I may hypermax her anyway for co-op flexibility and out of respect.

May do more pulls later. Not sure.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 01, 2016, 04:07:30 PM
RNGesus works in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 01, 2016, 04:17:06 PM
blue gala too strong, wtb carat

(http://i.imgur.com/yVmJPgN.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 01, 2016, 04:57:40 PM
Alright.

Alright.

Between being jazzed from that Ryune pull and Chirei's blue pantheon overload, I have convinced myself going all-out is a good call. I don't need dupes of any other archangels anyway, so archangel pantheon is sketchy as well.

Rubbing husbando for luck and wishing that he may find his twin in a blue gala.

Aaaand going all-out.

-Cinderella (dupe)
-Dragon Samurai
-Cursed Dragon (wtf PADZ)
-Sumire (dupe, but I am totally okay with two Sumires)
-Famiel (WRONG BLUE ARCHANGEL)
-Bastet (okay weird)
-Satsuki (dupe, but seems solid I guess)

Alright, one final chance to get another Gabriel today.

-FUCKING SHAITAN AGAIN

Shaitan is literal worst pull in REM. Please do not give me this again, much less twice during a blue gala.

Anway.

Worth it I guess. No husbando, no blue dragon swordsman, no blue elemental, but still plenty of cool toys.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 01, 2016, 06:18:26 PM

-Famiel (WRONG BLUE ARCHANGEL)

Hey ! Treat my dear right, and she is an angel, not an archangel ! >_>

But yea i want that Sumire, she is so cute.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 01, 2016, 06:58:40 PM
-Famiel (WRONG BLUE ARCHANGEL)

makes no hearts/no rows 0/10 would feed/sell for eggs/mp
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 01, 2016, 07:10:27 PM
So between those +99 HP and RCV slimes we got recently and the fact that 6/8 of the things I just pulled had +50 HP, I am at a serious ATK+ deficit. Send help Gungho, send ATK!

Hypermaxed one +297'd one Sumire, got Ryune to +250 (only needs ATK) and the other Sumire to +198 (only needs ATK). Not too bad.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 01, 2016, 10:05:59 PM
Finally, the hard part is over.

(http://i.imgur.com/8iqsSZc.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 01, 2016, 10:42:06 PM
Yaaaay! More puppeteers yaaaaay!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 01, 2016, 10:51:15 PM
Gotta gather up some jewels and Woodpys(and plusses because puppeteer stats are ehhhh) but that'll be much easier than MP gathering by far.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 01, 2016, 11:15:11 PM
Two more yolorolls for cute Sumire.

Sherias and Dupe Snow White.

Ehh... at least it was the right att. :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 02, 2016, 05:01:56 AM
After realizing that I didn't need a couple of doods I decided to make an investment.
(http://i.imgur.com/cMhK8yKl.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 02, 2016, 05:46:12 AM
Couragebros?

Couragebros.

Oh, and apparently I had the means to take mine from fresh out of the shop to Lv. 99 instantly so that was cool.  Thaaaank you Blanc for hitting a Great! result.

Now for plussing and finding Woodpys, but that is for another time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 02, 2016, 05:50:34 AM
Somebody go buy Pure so we can complete the set!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 02, 2016, 06:02:52 AM
Somebody go buy Pure so we can complete the set!

uh (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/threads/chirei-tries-it-oops-i-did-it-again.86540/page-2#post-1243884)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 02, 2016, 06:07:11 AM
uh (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/threads/chirei-tries-it-oops-i-did-it-again.86540/page-2#post-1243884)

Oh hey fair. I guess I did sort of know about that.

How's that working out? Do you like her?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on August 02, 2016, 06:37:57 AM
(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXM2N4Zll1TGNSY0E)
This is a bug, right? It must be, because I ran it and no +eggs dropped.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 02, 2016, 06:42:19 AM
Oh hey fair. I guess I did sort of know about that.

How's that working out? Do you like her?

well I kinda got my first arena clear with her so yeah

(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXM2N4Zll1TGNSY0E)
This is a bug, right? It must be, because I ran it and no +eggs dropped.

20 x shit = shit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 02, 2016, 06:54:34 AM
makes no hearts/no rows 0/10 would feed/sell for eggs/mp

I think she has her uses in Blue Mhera team, but I think this setup only concerns me. :/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 02, 2016, 08:52:14 AM
It doesn't matter, she is best daughter.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 02, 2016, 10:58:38 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/fSitdMj.png)

Not sure when (or even if) I'll use him but I do like the cross armor concept. Working on Ana & Valkyrie atm since it's easy to do (due to Valkyrie being farmable) and I can easily use her, although the skill-up would be a problem.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 02, 2016, 01:46:21 PM
To my delight, I'm finding moogle a neat sub for myr. It looks so happy cheerleading from the middle of my team while constantly spawning heart orbs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 03, 2016, 12:13:22 AM
Is anybody using Sumire right now who can tell me about her? Is her damage output with a bunch of orb enhances good enough, or does she also need to commit to prongs or rows? Does she need a damage enhance to seal the deal?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 03, 2016, 01:34:05 AM
I haven't played with her much but based on what I've seen on using her from time to time, you can get some pretty good damage with just orb enhances. But prongs/rows (or damage enhance) may be needed for the tougher contents.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 03, 2016, 01:57:03 AM
I use her with rows and her results can be hilarious even for me and I'm terrible at this game.  Poke me in chat sometime and we can do some testing if you want.

As for myself, well...This was something that had to happen.

(http://i.imgur.com/PmSNkfr.jpg)
Hey Threedia.  Been a while.  Oh, wondering who my new friend is?  Your worst nightmare.

(http://i.imgur.com/UmdzVP3.jpg)
That's right.  You're on my terms now.

(http://i.imgur.com/xQvmITs.jpg)
HERE'S FOR ALL THE SUFFERING YOU CAUSED ME!

This will only get better by the end of this week when a certain upgrade occurs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 03, 2016, 12:26:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IId4Nu0dZPE <-- New video from me.

Today's announced Summer REM stuff:

Beach Goemon (4*)
Beach Armadel (4*)
(New card) Resting Wings Dragon Caller, Navi (4*)

BMeta UVO - Added 2 SBR, added "x1.5 ATK after using skill" to LS
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 03, 2016, 01:07:54 PM
So how about that beach scoold :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 03, 2016, 02:49:58 PM
I am going to be terribly, terribly, terribly terribly terribly, disappointed if they don't take this opportunity to uevo beach panda
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 03, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
I am going to be terribly, terribly, terribly terribly terribly, disappointed if they don't take this opportunity to uevo beach panda

Everyone's talking about UVO Beach Panda, but I'd like for Pirate Gronia to get some love too. Especially since I have Gronia but no Beach Panda. :/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 03, 2016, 05:51:23 PM
finally beach art

let's see how badly they blow this, only really care for almadel so far which isn't saying much
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on August 03, 2016, 06:07:53 PM
finally beach art

let's see how badly they blow this, only really care for almadel so far which isn't saying much

but then they reveal their collaboration with nintendo following GO's failure and

7 * B E A CH I G G L Y B U F F and pikachu


reality beach goemon is kinda...cool I guess?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 03, 2016, 06:08:18 PM
Hmm yeah I really want that Armadel. I'll probably do pulls I guess. Navi is... Something I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on August 03, 2016, 06:10:43 PM
finally beach art

let's see how badly they blow this, only really care for almadel so far which isn't saying much

but then they reveal their collaboration with nintendo following GO's failure and

7 * B E A CH I G G L Y B U F F and pikachu


reality beach goemon is kinda...cool I guess? Navi's AS seems really, really nice for Heart hungry teams. Gold buffs will be nice too and prolly plentiful.

i kinda question how much more they'll add really since it's just filling the missing chibi slots
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 03, 2016, 07:54:06 PM
Navi is cute and has good Awakenings and a skill I could see being interesting as well as inheritance friendly. I approve.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 03, 2016, 10:02:56 PM
Uh woah, I'm at a loss for words, +1 vote to uevo beach meta for sexiest pad hair
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 04, 2016, 12:36:44 PM
Beach Ult Meta is gorgeous beyond gorgeous. It's just a shame she still kinda sucks a lot outside of her awakenings.

Meanwhile, Navi is super cute and so is Meimei.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 04, 2016, 01:04:42 PM
Meanwhile, I just want normal Miru...

Art-wise, I'm only into Lakshmi and Eschamali. Lakshmi is cute as usual, but I mean, beach art only accents that, so... (And is that a gravity I see in her AS? Or a self-HP drop?)
And then Eschamali is Eschamali. Hella-rare, but bestart.

As for usability, Beach Miru is looking really good. I mean, that's not to say her art is bad; it has a more "cool" look to it. The main reason I want her is for her stats and x7 multi (I can't read runes too well; does BMiru have the 7x?). Essentially, if I get her before Sarasvati Super-Ult comes out, I can make myself an actually good Water team, so I don't need to keep sticking to my Pollux team. On the other hand, there's no way I'm going to roll an 8*, even though I've been saving my stones :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 04, 2016, 01:38:17 PM
So GungHo decided to try their hand at another time attack for that Odin Tamazo which everybody complained about

(http://i.imgur.com/sZFzAoF.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/zuLUiwI.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpBL__BUIAE7Hlc.jpg)

Well at least I got a stone. And my first Zeus Dragon. I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 04, 2016, 01:50:07 PM
OwO

Every time i see that Sumire smile it pains, GungHo please, why you no give waifu and cuteness ?

Also no Beach Ama, so i will do just a yoloroll.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 04, 2016, 06:56:13 PM
I think I've thrown 20 or maybe even more excess Dragon Fruits into Draggie while skillup bonuses were on and never gotten a single skillup. Good thing I don't really care about Draggie I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 05, 2016, 12:35:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/qkFww3e.jpg)

Got this yesterday, the real beach animal.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 05, 2016, 12:43:55 AM
Is that your Stand?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 05, 2016, 12:46:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/qkFww3e.jpg)

Got this yesterday, the real beach animal.

Okay, i know this is super obvious and not fun, but the irony our local whale getting a whale is just wow.

How is it by the way ? Is that card good ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 05, 2016, 02:30:45 AM
How is it by the way ? Is that card good ?
4514/986/0
Awakenings: 5 SBs. That's literally it.
AS: Water orbs appearing more at 15% for 4 turns
LS: 2x HP for Water; 4x ATK for Dragon on a turn a skill is used

On a side note, it looks like Eschamali is the next Sakuya and Kali. And a water Miru.....looks like GungHo wants the money  :V But I do like the updated Beach REM. One of the few special REMs I actually want to save up and roll on. Even some of the 4* would be great to have. Looking at you Armadel :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 05, 2016, 03:15:49 AM
perhaps
legendary hills is not the best way to skillup blue odin

but it's the only way I got right now

At least I got 3 skillups today.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on August 05, 2016, 03:18:02 AM
i'd be okay with escha spam if they weren't limited variants honestly

it's the same thing as kali, good idea, bad placement imo
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 05, 2016, 04:18:13 AM
Blue Eschmali is just infinitely superior to any orbhange option on any of my teams, so obviously I would love to have her. I'm sure I won't.

perhaps
legendary hills is not the best way to skillup blue odin

but it's the only way I got right now

At least I got 3 skillups today.

Yeah, I'm just committed to using an assload of Bubpiis or waiting for Batman Collab to come back.

Got a lot of blue fruits today to skill up my Sumires, but they still need to actually pay out. Two levels of RNG is gooooood.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 05, 2016, 04:45:20 AM
Yeah, I'm just committed to using an assload of Bubpiis or waiting for Batman Collab to come back.
I got a fourth skillup today so I'm making ~progress~ at least. We could co-op for half stamina costs ;)

okay so I think what I can do for Sherias is

Sherias #1
Sherias #2
Alrescha
Blue Odin
R/B Amenouzume
Sherias

All colors, a patch for the team's middling recovery, 100% SBR, bind clear, four hastes. However, because Blue Odin has a rather non-active on a short cooldown (when maxed...) I thought maybe he could inherit something.

Orb changers don't really work so I can't slap that on. Damage reductions are always useful, though! But I also have a newly pulled Muse and Venus.

Muse gives x2.5 god attack and 10000 true damage at 10 turns, while Venus gives the same attack boost and 10 second orb movement time at 8 turns. Which could be useful considering Sherias' rainbow-row demands and lack of time extends.

Is the true damage worth the two extra turns and pain of Knight skillups, or should I grind out the 12 Venus skillups from the always available ECO collaboration?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 05, 2016, 05:18:41 AM
Is the true damage worth the two extra turns and pain of Knight skillups, or should I grind out the 12 Venus skillups from the always available ECO collaboration?

chances are if you have to use it for the true damage you're in deep doodoo, stalling it back up is super hard even solo

i'd just use ctw
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 05, 2016, 05:54:45 AM
4514/986/0
Awakenings: 5 SBs. That's literally it.

5 SBs is quite frankly ridiculously huge and the fact you can actually farm multiple copies of this like Tengu it's just like you should probably try and get at least 1 if you're able to.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 05, 2016, 10:05:31 AM
5 SBs is quite frankly ridiculously huge and the fact you can actually farm multiple copies of this like Tengu it's just like you should probably try and get at least 1 if you're able to.
Oh no, I'm not saying it's bad or anything. I see it as a great fit for my water team(s). It's more of a "just 5 SBs only? nothing else?" factor, because some of my friends didn't believe me when I told them about it.

But....I highly doubt I can do it's dungeon. Dungeons like those are way too hard for a casual player like me :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 05, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
Beach Myr is now available in MP store for 500,000 MP.

lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 05, 2016, 02:19:58 PM
Finished off Descended Challenge with good old ASaku. She still gets shit done.

Descends and challenges are pretty much the only reason I play anymore. Grinding and farming is just tedious and miserable.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 05, 2016, 02:22:32 PM
Descends and challenges are pretty much the only reason I play anymore. Grinding and farming is just tedious and miserable.

nowadays i feel like the only person who enjoys grinding and farming :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 05, 2016, 02:50:29 PM
you've always been a weird one :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 05, 2016, 03:23:33 PM
500...thousand?  What kinda crack are they on?  Ah well, dont have MP and dont need it unless I save for Pure so it's all good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on August 05, 2016, 03:29:15 PM
uh

that's an exorbitant price (that I could afford :ohdear:)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 05, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
nowadays i feel like the only person who enjoys grinding and farming :(

I don't hate sustained grinding over many days. If it's just a matter of spending the day's stamina on targeted things to get what I need it feels more like "resource management" than grinding. Actually stoning for stamina and stuff can get a bit tedious though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 05, 2016, 04:27:51 PM
nowadays i feel like the only person who enjoys grinding and farming :(

Nope you're not Trance, i'm on that ship too.

Y'know, i could also afford Cash grab Water Miru, since i got those 50k and 15k draws (Still not worth the fact i didn't get waifu).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 05, 2016, 05:25:06 PM
Descends and challenges are pretty much the only reason I play anymore. Grinding and farming is just tedious and miserable.

pretty much

Y'know, i could also afford Cash grab Water Miru, since i got those 50k and 15k draws (Still not worth the fact i didn't get waifu).

and then proceed to not be able to use her
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 05, 2016, 05:32:23 PM
and then proceed to not be able to use her

Pretty much ! That's why i'm not going to get her, unless they make cute little kid Miru.

Only Cross lead i'm really aching for is Sumire, cause that cute smile.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 05, 2016, 07:01:31 PM
None of the myr people I've friended have a single skill up on her despite being uevod and max plussed what's with that
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 05, 2016, 07:25:31 PM
It's easy to plus shit up now but it's a pain in the ass to grind for shit :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on August 05, 2016, 10:23:11 PM
None of the myr people I've friended have a single skill up on her despite being uevod and max plussed what's with that
Because 20 Myrs fed and not a single skill up lul.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 06, 2016, 01:46:33 AM
Cross Meta issues '-'
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 06, 2016, 02:04:11 AM
So my potpourri hodgepodge of a myr team right now contains moogle! baal, fuma, and wedding akech. Moogle by itself has 40% blocking of poisons and blinds, but together with fuma I get 100% jammer resist which feels really weird, like I'm playing an anti-meta team or something. This myr does not jam, she does not like to jam, do not invite her to jamming.

One of the aforementioned myr friends just best friended me, perhaps another sign that apparently NOONE else in NA has any skill ups yet. And since she's descending again tomorrow, just need to get 2 more skill ups for pentamaxness.

I feel like blue myr would be pretty cool if because blue has all the subs it needs to be really good at anything. Hell my box could make better use of a blue myr than a white one.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 06, 2016, 02:24:32 AM
Well, you would have to skill it up all over again, and pay out 500k or hit the REM jackpot for that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2016, 02:31:40 AM
Well, you would have to skill it up all over again, and pay out 500k or hit the REM jackpot for that.

If you don't usually play blue then odds are you have stacks and stacks of Bubpiis everywhere. That could be a thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 06, 2016, 04:06:02 AM
If you don't usually play blue then odds are you have stacks and stacks of Bubpiis everywhere. That could be a thing.
That, and collab dungeons are easier than descends anyway
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2016, 04:53:49 AM
Oh yeah fair enough, she would have a different skill. I was thinking it would be the same one since it only had to do with hearts so there would be nothing to change, but she does mention a color. The only potential pitfall there is if her skillup is on a floor with at least one other thing, or even worse, and invade. Then suddenly an L+ descend starts to look pretty goddamn attractive.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 06, 2016, 06:09:32 AM
Oh yeah fair enough, she would have a different skill. I was thinking it would be the same one since it only had to do with hearts so there would be nothing to change, but she does mention a color. The only potential pitfall there is if her skillup is on a floor with at least one other thing, or even worse, and invade. Then suddenly an L+ descend starts to look pretty goddamn attractive.

She has a different skill and her skillup monster is probably going to be in the same floor as either the Meimei skillup or the Beach Eschamali skillup.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 06, 2016, 02:31:16 PM
I would do Myr, but my team be too bad >_<
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2016, 04:19:47 PM
>oh hey i never did do myr mythical let's try it

>that same goddamned motherfucking unfixed music lag glitch happens in mid combo, die

oh right that's another reason why i don't care anymore
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 06, 2016, 08:52:00 PM
Hey, should i sell this Dupe Snow White i have that has 50 RCV eggs or feed it ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 06, 2016, 09:10:30 PM
Given how long it'd take to farm 3k MP vs farming 50 plusses I'd think selling would be the definite winner myself unless you're not interested in MP things atm (which I am going to assume is not the case)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 06, 2016, 09:38:21 PM
Wrong, i need the MP for NY Waifuterasu, or any Famiel or Sumire that are MP cards.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2016, 09:45:58 PM
This is my planned Sumire setup right now:

Sumire/Sumire/Gabriel/Ryune/Snow White/Sumire

Does that seem like it might be reasonable? Not sure how many rows I want to try to get in here. Could do Nut as well for a compatible orbchanger sans rows, or even Kamui.

Wrong, i need the MP for NY Waifuterasu, or any Famiel or Sumire that are MP cards.

No, he was right. He said selling her is better unless you're not interested in MP, which he assumes you're not. So double negative.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 06, 2016, 09:50:48 PM
I said wrong to how he assumed i didn't want MP, not that his thoughts were wrong.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2016, 10:23:05 PM
So the game has turned managing incoming +eggs into a goddamn nightmare since my ratios are so jacked up, and that inevitably just resulted in me feeding 27 +s into a thing that was already capped in those stats. Oops... I'm gonna be, uh, more careful next time...

I said wrong to how he assumed i didn't want MP, not that his thoughts were wrong.

Wouldn't that be right though?

WHATEVER MAN WHATEVER.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 06, 2016, 10:27:36 PM
"Assuming that is not the case" = "assuming that you were NOT in a situation where you DIDN'T want MP", i.e. that you do in fact want it(which with NYAmmy being a thing was never going to be in question).

Anyway, def. appreciating the plusses from the challenge.  Winding up with Courage almost fully plussed right away is a happy feeling.  I coulda gotten her further if I'd've planned around Thieves' Den last night but whatever, it's not like we don't almost always have 10x Descends in events anyway so I can do it whenever I want.  With the 297TAMA going to a certain [to some, trash] lady that'll make me very close to having my Karin stuff mostly plussed out finally.  Still gotta take care of the rest of A.Orochi and all of B/B, plus stuff like Amon, Sadalmelik, etc., but it's at least finally a start.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 06, 2016, 10:35:40 PM
(http://imgur.com/TxuBHNU.png)

Does anyone have any ideas for improving this team (preferably with farmable monsters so that I can make amends in a reasonable time frame)? I'm a little stuck, it seems. I'm pretty set as far as binds go, my HP is decent (especially compared to what it used to be), my ATK is pretty decent, and my potential damage output is looking okay (usually 890k, but that's a very rough estimate, and it's with Arse Nova as my Helper; not Alcyone. With Alcyone those numbers really bump themselves up.). I have 25% resist to everything but Light, cuz Pollux, and I have (potentially) three turns in a row of Heal>Light conversions, with two of those also eliminating Poison orbs and Jammers.

At first I was thinking about putting a Miru on this team in place of Bride Catte, but if I could get Miru in the first place, I wouldn't really be using Pollux as a lead anymore, would I? I was also thinking about putting some TPA on the team, but that would mean replacing my second Pollux, which I don't like the idea of, since LValk (IIRC) has lower stats than Pollux and has no SBR. Someone suggested getting Regulus for Light Enhancements, but that doesn't quite work out either, since Regulus has no debuff resists and only gives me insurance for if I get unlucky, since 2 Polluxes and Bastet cover all the OEs I need, not to mention Cinderella has one.
(Also I should point out that Heart Orbs are on +80% enhancement, not 100%, so I would still very minorly benefit from full Light OE)

On the topic of Cinderella, I'm not sure I want to replace her because of the whole unbindable bind healer thing she has going. She also gives me a time extend which (I think) is really, really helpful, considering I'm getting (at max) 4/5 comboes without it and (at max) 6/7 comboes with it. She happens to give me the only TPA on the team, too, come tommorow (final free TAMADRA). If I do end up replacing her, which I can't really see happening, it would be with Bride Sopdet. I keep the TPA, gain an extra OE, have another SBR and keep a similar skill. Not to mention 20% Light resist. The drawbacks with using Sopdet Bride in place of Cinderella Bride are (most glaringly) the lack of an unbindable card and RCV loss of about 200.

Anyways, does anyone have any suggestions? Even "make a new team around [X]" helps.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 06, 2016, 10:51:59 PM
Does anyone have any ideas for improving this team

bastet basically has no active, use reincarnated verche
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 06, 2016, 10:55:36 PM
I was not prepared for this wall of text.

You might have a bit too many heart breakers too, both Polluxes and the Dragon Swordsman do that, Bastet as said is just minor time extend + Mass Attacks, and i dunno what Cinderella does.

Oh by the way, Pollux's resist isn't 25%, it's 30%.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2016, 11:06:56 PM
bastet basically has no active, use reincarnated verche

Seconded. This is the best easy change you can make. Verche would probably do solid work here.

I was not prepared for this wall of text.

You might have a bit too many heart breakers too, both Polluxes and the Dragon Swordsman do that, Bastet as said is just minor time extend + Mass Attacks, and i dunno what Cinderella does.

Cinderella works fucking miracles is what she does. She's the same as real Cinderella except with a different subattribute, unlike the trashy school one.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2016, 11:12:43 PM
"Assuming that is not the case" = "assuming that you were NOT in a situation where you DIDN'T want MP", i.e. that you do in fact want it(which with NYAmmy being a thing was never going to be in question).

Anyway, def. appreciating the plusses from the challenge.  Winding up with Courage almost fully plussed right away is a happy feeling.  I coulda gotten her further if I'd've planned around Thieves' Den last night but whatever, it's not like we don't almost always have 10x Descends in events anyway so I can do it whenever I want.  With the 297TAMA going to a certain [to some, trash] lady that'll make me very close to having my Karin stuff mostly plussed out finally.  Still gotta take care of the rest of A.Orochi and all of B/B, plus stuff like Amon, Sadalmelik, etc., but it's at least finally a start.

Ha ha I just realize you have like a Bizarro version of my blue box. You have like every card I don't, down to Trash Garbage. You even have a different blue puppeteer.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 06, 2016, 11:18:30 PM
Ooo, then better for him, but yea, i third Verche too by the way, he shouldn't be any issue to get and evo, skills ups might troll tho.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 06, 2016, 11:19:02 PM
@hikari personally I would consider switching dragon knight with uryu since you already have like 4 heart breakers and an unbindable bind clearer in Cinderella. Uryu also has slightly better stats and his active should prove pretty useful for better damage.

Also this
(http://i.imgur.com/FBijegW.jpg)
Add plz pentamax myr to my leaders, move sakuya out to last and myr first, panda 2nd plz.
The first dream is realized

e: 3 heartbreakers, 4 light makers, but you know what I meant
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 06, 2016, 11:39:32 PM
@hikari personally I would consider switching dragon knight with uryu since you already have like 4 heart breakers and an unbindable bind clearer in Cinderella. Uryu also has slightly better stats and his active should prove pretty useful for better damage.
I'll be sure to do this, thanks!
Oh by the way, Pollux's resist isn't 25%, it's 30%.
Welp, I knew it was one or the other. I figured someone would correct me if I said 30, and I figured someone would correct me if I said 25.
bastet basically has no active, use reincarnated verche
Will do.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 07, 2016, 12:02:49 AM
Ha ha I just realize you have like a Bizarro version of my blue box. You have like every card I don't, down to Trash Garbage. You even have a different blue puppeteer.
What, do you have Alfecca as well to parallel my having Sadalmelik?

This game is silly sometimes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2016, 12:18:15 AM
What, do you have Alfecca as well to parallel my having Sadalmelik?

This game is silly sometimes.

I do have Alfecca, yes. Would much rather have Sadalmelik, but I think I'm neglecting Alfecca. Then again, aside from farming I can't see running him over Nut. Or alongside her. Maybe for that gimmick Scheat team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 07, 2016, 02:17:07 AM
Add a fifth skillup to Blodin today...
This is even more soul crushing than 4 Scarlets, what with crap XP, 1/3 drop rate, 99 stamina cost, and only RCV latents there to compensate.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on August 07, 2016, 03:12:23 AM
>oh hey i never did do myr mythical let's try it

>that same goddamned motherfucking unfixed music lag glitch happens in mid combo, die

oh right that's another reason why i don't care anymore
I'm appalled at the fact that they still haven't fixed it. To be fair I've learned to wait for the music to loop before moving orbs at critical moments, but that's still no excuse to leave the bug unfixed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 07, 2016, 09:58:04 AM
what a joke

(http://i.imgur.com/fUe7BUD.png) (http://i.imgur.com/uLaT2ca.png)

I got Karin to do ~3.4 million damage on a half-assed attack, so that's 3,400,000 * 18 = 61,200,000 damage just by herself. Easily goes over 120 million with the whole party's damage.

that'll teach you to kill me with unfair damage requirements
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 07, 2016, 11:29:04 AM
Is wedding eschamali x myr an actual thing? I keep getting friend requests from her. Seems like a bit of an inflexible combo to pull off, unless they specifically prepare two teams, one for generating lots of hearts for myr and the other for regular lescha pairing. Heart shields seem more trouble than it's worth, seeing as passive 1.5x hp does pretty much the same thing and it's not like the tiny damage boost from going 6x to 7x should be too relevant.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2016, 02:33:55 PM
My best guess is that it's people wanting to show off how cool they are for having super-rare cards and that's just nominally the best way to do it. Those people usually get bored of their weird showoff gimmick teams relatively quickly in my experience. Or maybe it is a real thing, I don't know.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 07, 2016, 08:25:55 PM
Time to do some Beach REM rolls.

(http://i.imgur.com/0Gv1zk7.png)

Whoa. Roll #1 and I already hit the jackpot. The funny thing was, I wasn't really going for the gold eggs. I actually wanted the silver eggs (Armadel, Navi, etc). But hell, it's not everyday I get something amazing from the special REMs (first time actually) so I'll take it!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 07, 2016, 08:30:11 PM
My best guess is that it's people wanting to show off how cool they are for having super-rare cards and that's just nominally the best way to do it. Those people usually get bored of their weird showoff gimmick teams relatively quickly in my experience. Or maybe it is a real thing, I don't know.

That's more or less correct. Most people try and say they're gonna make x team with card they just pulled or whatever, but only a few actually have the skill and drive to do it in the end.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2016, 08:43:32 PM
It doesn't matter who you are in here, get ready to watch everyone but you pull the absolute rarest stuff from the Beach REM instantly. You know it's gonna happen.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 07, 2016, 08:45:13 PM
It doesn't matter who you are in here, get ready to watch everyone but you pull the absolute rarest stuff from the Beach REM instantly. You know it's gonna happen.

Even if they don`t want to.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on August 07, 2016, 10:41:48 PM
It doesn't matter who you are in here, get ready to watch everyone but you pull the absolute rarest stuff from the Beach REM instantly. You know it's gonna happen.

Trust me.

I am prepared.

AND I WILL NOT LOSE.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on August 07, 2016, 11:25:01 PM
Hey Chaore
I got BeachMei on my 2nd roll lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 08, 2016, 02:51:48 AM
I'll have to roll tomorrow, after I get more free stones :3 (Or I clear a Normal, since my JP account is behind in that regard)
All of the rolls look so good, I'm not sure I'd feel bad about getting any of them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on August 08, 2016, 02:58:42 AM
Hey Chaore
I got BeachMei on my 2nd roll lol

so all i have to do is get her on the first

no problem BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 08, 2016, 03:46:57 AM
so all i have to do is get her on the first

no problem BV

You might want to get your fortune told first, just so you have something to blame if things go wrong.
Easier than going to a shrine. (http://www.shi-yaku-jin-no-hokora.org/omikuji.html)

I got Awilda. I didn't even know she was in the draw pool :V
Well, she'll be a decent sub for Ruka, I guess. 100% Water OE should bump my damage a good bit more.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on August 08, 2016, 05:49:00 AM
I want to inherit I&I onto my rukia team, is there any reason to use the non awoken version?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on August 08, 2016, 06:01:36 AM
You might want to get your fortune told first, just so you have something to blame if things go wrong.

i don't really know why you felt the need to or reason to add that

honestly if i don't get her i'll be disappointed but deal and only be mad at everyone not shutting up about it :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 08, 2016, 06:42:58 AM
I want to inherit I&I onto my rukia team, is there any reason to use the non awoken version?
The non-awokens lasts a turn longer, has a shorter CD at max level, and farmable skill-ups. So I guess it depends if those outweigh the extra burst the awoken form gets.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 08, 2016, 07:43:27 AM
Meh. I'll roll a bit more again tomorrow but if I don't get Beach Myr I'll just buy her. It's not like I'm using my MP for anything else anyway.

Shrug.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 08, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
i don't really know why you felt the need to or reason to add that
cuz it's what I do :fail:

I rolled Navi just now.
What's her skill? I can't understand it and I can't find a PADX page for it.
Her awakenings seem pretty good, and she seems to synergize well with Ruka, but I won't know for sure until I know her skill.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 08, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
Navi's AS increases Heart Skyfall chance.

Also, hey jq, did you get the hang of these Cross leads yet ? I kinda need some help with it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 08, 2016, 01:56:25 PM
I rolled Navi just now.
What's her skill? I can't understand it and I can't find a PADX page for it.
Her awakenings seem pretty good, and she seems to synergize well with Ruka, but I won't know for sure until I know her skill.
hereu5 (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=3120)


+297 tama get
...
and now to never use it never ever
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 08, 2016, 02:26:02 PM
Having to fight the urge to just instantly dump that hypermax Tamadra into Kamui. I feel like I'm not going to use him unless he's hypermax and I'm never going to get around to doing it the hard way, but I also don't really have a team for him and would probably regret it if I wasted it on him.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 08, 2016, 02:32:13 PM
Also, hey jq, did you get the hang of these Cross leads yet ? I kinda need some help with it.

What help? I run Ronove, Kaede, Typhon Armor Ana and soon I'll run Beach Miru so I have some experiences with cross lead

I also own Kenshin and Saito who will reach NA soon^TM
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 08, 2016, 02:56:34 PM
What help? I run Ronove, Kaede, Typhon Armor Ana and soon I'll run Beach Miru so I have some experiences with cross lead

I also own Kenshin and Saito who will reach NA soon^TM

It's cause Jq has his Sumire evolved and Max Skilled, so i was thinking of having another Water Team Setup to pair up with him, however...

A: I have a pretty low experience with making crosses.
B:I don't have all that many Heart Makers  and i know that those leads are very orb hungry to compensate for their super nice effectiveness. (Dual Sumires is what ? 42x atk with technical 4x HP and RCV if you meet the requirements for it ?)
C: Since Middle Sister Sumire hasn't appeared yet i am using Skuld since she is the closest i have. (3.5x atk for nothing at all, 1.5x for the 5-orbs with a +).

Plainly, i wanna try this kind of team, but i have neither the experience nor all the tools. While you have like a ton of dupes or something. e.e
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 08, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
Navi's AS increases Heart Skyfall chance.

Also, hey jq, did you get the hang of these Cross leads yet ? I kinda need some help with it.
I have not really trained much in them.  I usually just use Sumire as a plain popcorn lead despite realizing that that is kinda entirely missing the point of using her. I'll work on it eventually, I suppose.  Maybe once I get Andro skilled up and stuff.

Speaking of, despite using enough TAMAs beforehand to fully Awaken Andro when she is super ultd, immediately 297d her with superTAMA.  Not a single regret was had.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 08, 2016, 04:20:31 PM
@jq: Ooh, you want to try co-opping some hard stuff with double Sumires soon? My first one is just short of skillmax and my second one needs a lot of work including all of her skillups, but the rest of my team is ready and it should be good practice. I don't really care if we win and I don't know how to play her yet either.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 08, 2016, 04:27:23 PM
I..guess we could?  Next time I'm in give me a shout and when I see it I'll give it a shot I suppose, sure. Know that I cant play nearly as high of stuff as you are able to normally so trying like Myth+ stuff is likely an exercise in frustration waiting to happen, but we can figure something out, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 08, 2016, 04:39:13 PM
Well, then we are two, i hope to get Sumire too in the future, heart crosses are fun to do, albeit pretty hard for me, since i go for the 1 popcorn 3 TPA board all the time, and it's printed on my mind now.


@commander: What are your Water leads again ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 08, 2016, 04:55:08 PM
I..guess we could?  Next time I'm in give me a shout and when I see it I'll give it a shot I suppose, sure. Know that I cant play nearly as high of stuff as you are able to normally so trying like Myth+ stuff is likely an exercise in frustration waiting to happen, but we can figure something out, I'm sure.

No worries, really more interested in testing than winning at this point. I'll probably hit you up pn IRC some time this week.

@commander: What are your Water leads again ?

As far as what I use regularly goes, Gabriel and Neptune Dragon. But I CAN use a number of additional things. Ryune, Blue Sonia, Alrescha, Sumire, Awoken Neptune, (Shinji), Blue Odin, and even some fairly niche stuff like Nut and Scheat.

But mostly Gabriel and Neptune Dragon, and I want to get into Sumire.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on August 09, 2016, 08:27:37 AM
man im having alot of trouble this tournament ill probably not get top 10% this time around. several things are a little annoying during this tourament but not much i can do about it unless i just keep throwing myself at it

The non-awokens lasts a turn longer, has a shorter CD at max level, and farmable skill-ups. So I guess it depends if those outweigh the extra burst the awoken form gets.
does the extra turn outweigh the extra burst?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 09, 2016, 09:04:51 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpYbdNQUAAENwdz.jpg)

i bought her e.e
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 09, 2016, 09:41:01 AM
does the extra turn outweigh the extra burst?

IMO it doesn't. In a game where most of their solution to make harder and more challenging content is to constantly increase the HP of everything (Look at say, Agni vs Dios dungeons), the extra burst is far more useful. No point in having an extra turn when the enemy kills you before you can use it because you fell short and died to their low HP attack that does a billion damage.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 10, 2016, 10:27:30 PM
Because I was reminded to list:
My current leads are pentamax sylvie, pentamax a.thor, rarely hypermax akechi or pentamax verdandi.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 11, 2016, 02:37:55 AM
So apparently beach panda got a sb and a healer killer (wut) and beach claire got a machine killer, just to name two out of several beach mons that got small buffs. Guess that means no other beach panda upgrades oh welllll

e: also summer fest confirmed this friday, bringing back all the salts. I myself am wondering whether to roll this time, the only thing I could want is beach claire since I already somehow managed to get 2 pandas last year (lol  :V), and considering how apanda is like already out of the meta scene, well...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 11, 2016, 10:34:38 AM
Since the servers are back up again and I'm done with stuff elsewhere on the forum, I might as well place these here just for posterity.

(http://i.imgur.com/RU4KQFD.png) (http://i.imgur.com/3JMi6uj.png) (http://i.imgur.com/crcK46y.png) (http://i.imgur.com/LT8hP7V.png) (http://i.imgur.com/hBVtC93.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 11, 2016, 03:05:13 PM
Myr/Beach Myr will receive buff.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 11, 2016, 03:07:02 PM
They needed a buff?  *headtilt*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 11, 2016, 03:34:48 PM
Ehhh ? What do you need to buff on a card with 7x atk mult and 50% dmg cut with a heart cross, great stats, All-around awakenings and that gives you 2 secs of extra time to match ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 11, 2016, 05:12:48 PM
I knew that the tournament winner would pick something that is already powerful :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 11, 2016, 06:28:48 PM
Oh right.  Forgot such a thing existed again.  Naturally the Flavor of the Month gets picked because why do something sensible, right?  Nothing against Miru, but...unnecessary etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 11, 2016, 06:31:33 PM
Hmm, weak. Poor, poor choice.

What would you guys have picked? I'd have gome Kaguya because I think she's cool and has a bit of potential. Kindcof working on a Kaguya farm team right now just for goofs as a back burner side project, but being able to use her for real would have been neat.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 11, 2016, 06:33:41 PM
Given my recent interest in finally finishing raising him, maybe get Wadatsumi's ult in the pipeline?  Also a significant CD reduction.  Id say no more than 10 turns at maxskill myself instead of the 14 it is now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 11, 2016, 07:18:49 PM
This was the list of monsters that was part of the "tournament" in case people wanted to know what were the choices:

Machine Hera
Tengu
Surtr
Hel
Linthia
Hera-Is
Myr
Z8

Still not sure why Myr was a choice to begin with. As much as I like using both of her versions, her spot could've been for someone more deserving. I guess that's GungHo for you.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 11, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
Oh.  Wow all those choices suck though.  Either they're stupid strong already or already have ults or both[In Miru's case](or are Surtr who is worthless anyway.  Ok maybe not actually but he's incredibly boring to me.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 12, 2016, 02:06:55 AM
I knew that the tournament winner would pick something that is already powerful :v

All the monsters were picked before hand.

Oh.  Wow all those choices suck though.  Either they're stupid strong already or already have ults or both[In Miru's case](or are Surtr who is worthless anyway.  Ok maybe not actually but he's incredibly boring to me.)

>Surtr
>Worthless

lol

Surtr needs a buff so the guys with A.CaoCao can farm like the A.Liubei crew

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 12, 2016, 07:54:26 AM
Well that was exciting
(http://i.imgur.com/6T3n59J.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 12, 2016, 01:37:25 PM
What a painless skillup.

(http://i.imgur.com/dCVWwj7.jpg)

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 12, 2016, 03:08:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/PypvEDP.jpg)

Arena 1 re-cleared. Got the easier Kali this time, and she is soooo much easier. 66% clear rate so far with Arena with this team (although with, granted, a tiny sample size). Only loss was to somehow botching Fat Dragon. Haven't gotten worst-case spawns yet though.

On to Arena 2!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 12, 2016, 09:32:37 PM
Well. Amenochokezume skillups are not doing so hot.

Thanks.

(http://i.imgur.com/car5TwV.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2016, 09:54:55 AM
apathy rolls

-kakkab
-diadem
- berry dragon
-ryune
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 13, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CptfkBwUAAAig3i.jpg)

Got the Tamazo Rodin.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 13, 2016, 11:30:06 AM
Yolorolls:

-Dupe LKali
-Genie
-Dupe Sherias



'-'

Rip chance for Sumire-chan.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: triangles on August 13, 2016, 12:00:47 PM
Look what Edible rolled for me just now on the dragon of disappointment
(http://i.imgur.com/7AIEZqd.jpg)
It was not disappointment :toot:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 13, 2016, 12:25:13 PM
Decided to roll twice and save a couple rolls for beach episode REM:
-Horus
-dupe Artemis

Uh...I GUESSSS that's not losing, but Im pretty sure I wont use either of em so it's also kinda ???.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 13, 2016, 12:35:26 PM
-dupe Artemis

inherit on something that needs an offensive skill or make the other ult you don't have

also make horus ace when he comes out
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 13, 2016, 12:42:35 PM
Yeah, seems like good enough ideas on both counts.  Both will have to wait their turn though; still got lots more in the pipeline to take care of.  Still, the options are nice to have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 13, 2016, 05:33:12 PM
Hey Chirei, do I recall you saying that you cleared Legendary Snowy Valley on challenge mode with Michael? I keep nearly clearing it with Gabriel but falling just short and I THINK Michael would do it if I can just get the right subs up to pick from. Do you remember what you used?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 13, 2016, 09:30:45 PM
Yoloroll Status: Sup Kano. You really like me, don't you?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 14, 2016, 12:16:19 AM
Hey Chirei, do I recall you saying that you cleared Legendary Snowy Valley on challenge mode with Michael? I keep nearly clearing it with Gabriel but falling just short and I THINK Michael would do it if I can just get the right subs up to pick from. Do you remember what you used?

stack rows, get an enhancer like afreyja, and if you get someone's kushi you can even tank an abyssal tempest if you need to (I did)

I believe all the components for those exist within motk
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 14, 2016, 12:20:47 AM
Oh right, and I guess I'm not limited to non-duplicates anymore.

Does anyone have any cool green row stuff they might be able to put up? Preferably hypermax? Seems like Michaels, green Valkyrie, Australis, Perseus, and Feryja would all be great among other things.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 14, 2016, 12:28:56 AM
I do have a Australis, but he/she? isn`t Hypermax or Skillmax.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 14, 2016, 12:44:03 AM
Oh right, and I guess I'm not limited to non-duplicates anymore.

Does anyone have any cool green row stuff they might be able to put up? Preferably hypermax? Seems like Michaels, green Valkyrie, Australis, Perseus, and Feryja would all be great among other things.
I can put up a mike on my first party slot, yeahp.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 14, 2016, 01:04:33 AM
I can put up Freyja or Perseus; neither are hyper or even close plus wise and Freyja IIRC is unskilled but Perseus is skillmax(I think Chirei has a hyper one though).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 14, 2016, 02:11:33 AM
Took two good shots at it with Michael and didn't get a clear (fell short on Starling despite hitting her with two rows from less than 20% both times) so I guess I'll just have to use an enhance next time and see what happens once I get to Ilsix.

Since I'm packing Matsuri's Astaroth I'm assuming I can spike Ilsix down to 1% and he'll die to the counterattack before he heals, but does it actually work that way?

Anyway, thanks to everyone who put stuff up. I'll need to take another pass at this at some point, but things look pretty decent.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 14, 2016, 02:27:35 AM
That will not work because the damage to you and the heal to him occur as the result of one move; counters happen after one move is completely resolved as far as I am aware. It would work if he used two moves as a skill set with the damage being first though.  (this trait is how a lot of people "cheat" their way past Z&H's resolve if they're strong enough to OHKO, actually; since the gravity hits first you counter before they can get their heal off which is a separate skill)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 14, 2016, 02:45:39 AM
Hmmmmm. Gonna be tricky then. Not sure how my damage against Starling ended up so terrible at the end, but if that's representative I may have trouble taking Ilsix out even after eating a big hit from him. Have to feel it out and maybe change up my team composition I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 14, 2016, 02:50:57 PM
hmmmm.

(http://i.imgur.com/wvVFV5N.png) (http://i.imgur.com/hIYd6aQ.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 14, 2016, 03:43:11 PM
Dang, I never paid any attention to that bit. Would that work on a dual Kaede team?
Good thing I resisted my urges to convert him.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 14, 2016, 04:56:28 PM
Dang, I never paid any attention to that bit. Would that work on a dual Kaede team?
Good thing I resisted my urges to convert him.

kaede isnt balanced so idk why you would
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 14, 2016, 05:13:41 PM
Because I can definitely read. Don't doubt me on that one. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on August 15, 2016, 07:56:31 AM
Not quite sure what happened but certain menus aren't as slow anymore. I can now properly look at monster stats or not wait a full minute to buy a coin dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 15, 2016, 08:10:06 AM
well

(http://i.imgur.com/lZ12oSo.png) (http://i.imgur.com/AZzzvqM.png)

fuk
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 15, 2016, 08:58:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wQMtuvy.jpg)

Well, I got the silver I really wanted from last year and the silver I really wanted from this year. I should stop here and not do more pulls as I get more stones, that's begging for useless duplicate Kurones, but I really want BeachMeims...

This such a bad idea.

Armadel though...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 15, 2016, 09:03:51 AM
I got my fourth blue what's her face, including the 3 from last year, so I just up and sold her. Then I got an armadel and navi. Not sure what to do with these but I'll stick them around for awhile. But man, I'm really contemplating whether I should get beach valk here, because she would give me a machine killer and the much needed final srb for my current panda team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 15, 2016, 10:09:40 AM
Did 3 rolls and I got:

Armadel
Claire
Meimei

I was already satisfied after rolling Armadel so getting Claire and Meimei made it even better. Claire, I can definitely use her on my Pandora team (or any other teams she'd be great in). Meimei might be bit tricky, but only because she has the green option. Granted, I have Armadel but I'm always a big fan of green teams so I guess we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on August 15, 2016, 10:19:30 AM
bought myself a big boy pack plus 20 stones i already had and the results were
2 kuros
5 navis
1 chester
1 kreygasm (http://imgur.com/a/SzBxA)
1 lul (http://imgur.com/a/q3fO2)
2 lackshima
3 goemon
1 fuu
2 armadel
1 awilda
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 15, 2016, 01:55:32 PM
20 stones,
Fuu
Goemon
Navi
Goemon.

Navi's cool I guess, and Fuu... may be useful in place of/while I'm leveling up Verche, so it wasn't a horrible roll. Goemon I have no use for right now, so he'll get nice and cozy in my box.

1 kreygasm (http://imgur.com/a/SzBxA)
1 lul (http://imgur.com/a/q3fO2)
:3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 15, 2016, 02:09:27 PM
Chester and Fuu.  No use for either but eh, them's the breaks.  Least it wasn't Awilda again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 15, 2016, 03:26:26 PM
Is BMyr a permanent MP Monster now? There's no expiration date on her. If so, I may need to skip out on LINKA (who's not that great anyways).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 15, 2016, 04:17:17 PM
apathy roll

navi

at least she is qt
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 15, 2016, 04:33:24 PM
Decided to buy beach valk since I haven't had anything to buy for like a year. Hopefully I don't regret this when regular valk either gets a buff or something actually really good hits the mp store like the very next day.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 15, 2016, 04:38:32 PM
Decided to buy beach valk since I haven't had anything to buy for like a year. Hopefully I don't regret this when regular valk either gets a buff or something actually really good hits the mp store like the very next day.

You'll probably be fine even if something you want does come out tomorrow. Ragnarok was revealed like the day after I bought my Neptune Dragon but by the time he came out here I could have bought him if I wanted. We get a lot of lead time in NA on stuff like that for better or worse. Much less on collabs granted, and those do last for less time, but still.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on August 15, 2016, 06:25:46 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6u1KUhtehZ4/V7IEc-b5_iI/AAAAAAAADas/nJZ5t1ctxLMpiMbr3soTwQffs8VfIDnHQCL0B/w339-h602-no/16%2B-%2B1)

There is one constant in PAD for me.

And that is Meimei never lets me down.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 15, 2016, 08:53:29 PM
I'm finding Sumire to be unusually evocative to play with in a really weird way. Normally in PAD the orbs themselves don't seem to mean much (weird cases like enemy Beach Metatron's watermelon aside), but with her it feels like I'm making her a sword and a shield to fight with every turn. When she blocks with the shield it breaks and I have to make her a one. It's cool.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 15, 2016, 09:39:42 PM
I think of it more like infusing the sword and shield with magic to deal more damage and receive less.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 15, 2016, 09:54:57 PM
Regardless, there's a cool sword-and-shield symbolism going on with the popcorn+heartcross crowd. I suppose that would work with prongs+cross too, but since you only tend to make one popcorn it's just that little bit more special.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 16, 2016, 03:45:17 AM
Alright, got myself enough stones for a fifth pull. Wishing for Meims, would be pretty happy with Navi.

-Armadel

I mean, no surprise there. Wonder if there's a reason for me to have two of these though? They're definitely good, not sure I need two.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 16, 2016, 03:59:34 AM
so it seems the myr buff is revealed, 7x -> 7.7x with heart cross = 49x -> 59.29x with double myr leads. But while we're at it, we should buff the shields from 50% -> 77% = 75% -> 94.71% with double leads. And then buff her active from 7 seconds to 7.7 seconds of CTW, and from generating 7 random heart orbs to 7.7 random random heart orbs.  ::)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 16, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
So after further tinkering with Sumire it looks like popcorn+cross with four combos total is a couple of million damage, while popcorn+cross+row at four combos total seems to be ~10 million on a team with six blue row enhances.

Obviously that's going to vary heavily depending on how many orbs are enhanced, but that's really fucking solid damage for how relatively easy it is. If I can get to the point where I can reliably squeeze a few more combos in there we might really be in business.

Edit: Oh yeah, and even though her actual RCV isn't great it basically is thanks to the reduced damage you'll be taking and the sheer number of hearts you'll be working with. That's probably common sense but it's worth noting since she is physical.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 16, 2016, 03:39:36 PM
It looks like it's very orb hungry though, gotta be careful with orb management too i guess.

If i get Sumire i might have to go TPA route, since i don't have many viable Row Subs, heck, i would have to kick Reine out for obvious reasons, unless i inherit on her something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 16, 2016, 03:48:07 PM
It is and isn't orb-hungry. Your consumption is split across two types of orbs which is nice, and you can definitely operate without hearts. The weird part is that it's very easy to actually have too many hearts which makes doing crosses very tricky.

I'm not actually sure heartbreakers don't potentially have a place on this team for that exact reason. Theoretically if you're flooded with hearts you can heartbreak to either keep a shield streak going or set up the board for a heartmaker. It's probably not the most ideal use of a sub slot, but there are times I've wished I had one. Maybe Reine with an Urd active inherited or something might be worth a slot?

And yeah I have considered prongs since access to Nut would be great and Scheat would be at least interesting. May have to try that build soon too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 18, 2016, 12:09:37 PM
new jp descend has a pretty awesome restriction, no time extends of any kind allowed
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 18, 2016, 12:36:50 PM
Lots of interesting new stuff! The new descend, the new leader it has, +80 box and cost from the very beginning, and apparently grodin/Odindra are the first sources of awakening bind recover?
E: holy muscles batman, DC collab got a whole bunch of buffs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 18, 2016, 12:45:52 PM
Aaaaah god dammit, I only own one DCREM card and it's Wonder Woman, and she got no buffs.

This does kiiind of make me want to do more pulls, we'll see. If that four-star Tamadra had been Superman Tama it would have been an instant hypermax.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 18, 2016, 03:23:12 PM
Another roll... Kuroneko. Not bad since i have practically no Dark stuff.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 18, 2016, 05:34:33 PM
I got both beach sticker girls in my two rolls.

Frankly. I'm okay with this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 18, 2016, 05:52:24 PM
Whoah, Kephri's fucking weeeird. Both her active (increase combo count by two) and leader skill (flat attack bonus, but nerfs your orb matching by forcing you to match 5+ blue to get a clear) are brand new design space that's potentially really interesting. Yeah, cool. Good job Gungho, I'm pretty excited for this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 18, 2016, 05:55:12 PM
Whoah, Kephri's fucking weeeird. Both her active (increase combo count by two) and leader skill (flat attack bonus, but nerfs your orb matching by forcing you to match 5+ blue to get a clear) are brand new design space that's potentially really interesting. Yeah, cool. Good job Gungho, I'm pretty excited for this.

Note that Khepri's active can be used regardless if she is a sub or a lead... which means those 8 combo shields in annihilation dungeons and 6 combo shields in 5x4 go bye-bye. (If you somehow even get to the boss with Khepri as a sub...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 18, 2016, 06:03:45 PM
Note that Khepri's active can be used regardless if she is a sub or a lead... which means those 8 combo shields in annihilation dungeons and 6 combo shields in 5x4 go bye-bye. (If you somehow even get to the boss with Khepri as a sub...)

Hmm very true. Co-op will make room for her at least.

And she honestly isn't a horrible sub. Great attack and decent awakenings, with all utility awakenings so nothing's ever wasted if you need her on the wrong kind of team. Inherit her that shield that blue is always lacking and you've got a half-decenent utility package.

But yeah, mostly she seems appealing as a combo shield breaker in co-op. I'll very likely hypermax one just for that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 18, 2016, 11:30:23 PM
For those interested, 9.4 patch's got the new descended quests. Each category nets you their respective permanent co-op Ultimate rush dungeon (ie. Devil category = Ultimate Devil Rush).

From what I gathered in various friends (and places), the categories and rewards(besides the co-op rushes) are:
1. Hera - Jewels
2. Zeus - Jewels (this one nets you Zeus rush, instead of God rush)
3. Devil - Extreme King Metal Dragons
4. Super Dragon - Jewels
5. Yamato - Extreme King Metal Dragons
6. Special (Rouge) - Pys

All of them requires both difficulties to clear, even the Special/Rogue ones. Pretty good rewards, though not sure about the perm co-op rush.

Other than that, I'm liking the 9.4 patch, mainly because more box spaces are always good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 19, 2016, 01:29:40 AM
Oh, this game exists, right.

I completely forgot about it since about halfway through the last thread(so early june). Don't think I've played it since. Anybody mind giving me a general update of the shit that's changed, how much the juggler creep has progressed and if it's any worth to come back to the game?

I mean, I somehow doubt my old Horus team is still worth even considering but y'know. A man can hope.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 19, 2016, 02:13:01 AM
Oh, this game exists, right.

I completely forgot about it since about halfway through the last thread(so early june). Don't think I've played it since. Anybody mind giving me a general update of the shit that's changed, how much the juggler creep has progressed and if it's any worth to come back to the game?

I mean, I somehow doubt my old Horus team is still worth even considering but y'know. A man can hope.

I forget, would you have seen this dude?

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2927
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 19, 2016, 02:26:24 AM
Oh, this game exists, right.

I completely forgot about it since about halfway through the last thread(so early june). Don't think I've played it since. Anybody mind giving me a general update of the shit that's changed, how much the juggler creep has progressed and if it's any worth to come back to the game?

I mean, I somehow doubt my old Horus team is still worth even considering but y'know. A man can hope.

Uh, let's see, what's changed in a few months?

Co-op is a big thing and actually really functional now. It's fun.

As far as we can tell it looks like NA will never be getting the PAD Radar stuff.

Current hot shit is Myr, who's a ridiculously powerful card that's also fully farmable. She's fairly Juggler-esque.

Springboarding off of Myr, the current metagame seems to be heart cross heavy. I'm just getting the hang of heart crosses myself but they seem interesting.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 19, 2016, 03:09:51 AM
Alright, I finally stopped fucking around and just changed all of my main leads over to blue. Unless someone contacts me and asks me to put what used to be there back up my leads are now Gabriel* (glow), Neptune Dragon* (glow), and Sumire*.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 20, 2016, 12:04:54 AM
I forget, would you have seen this dude?

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2927

He feels oddly familiar yet I don't actually remember him.

Uh, let's see, what's changed in a few months?

Co-op is a big thing and actually really functional now. It's fun.

As far as we can tell it looks like NA will never be getting the PAD Radar stuff.

Current hot shit is Myr, who's a ridiculously powerful card that's also fully farmable. She's fairly Juggler-esque.

Springboarding off of Myr, the current metagame seems to be heart cross heavy. I'm just getting the hang of heart crosses myself but they seem interesting.

> Myr has silly evo mats, is single-color and somehow has 1k weighted.

Should've expected as much, I guess. Looks like the powercreep hasn't slowed down since I left. How hard is her dungeon, exactly?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 20, 2016, 01:54:01 AM
How hard is her dungeon?

Just co-op it. Save yourself some suffering.
Or use Thanatos as a sub.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on August 20, 2016, 03:07:35 AM
Get your stream rewards here! (http://puzzleanddragons.us/twitch-giveaways/)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 20, 2016, 03:15:05 AM
Confirmed that Gabriel cleanly farms Star Justice. Relatively quickly even.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 20, 2016, 04:32:58 AM
Quote
Evils of the Galaxy beware--few can stop the Iron Machine King and his sword of justice!

(http://i.imgur.com/n0pLTHz.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Jrq6lPN.png)

evil wins again
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 20, 2016, 05:49:13 AM
Aaaaah god dammit, I only own one DCREM card and it's Wonder Woman, and she got no buffs.

that's because she got an ult when BvS collab debuted lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 20, 2016, 05:50:52 AM
wow myr makes sha wujing a joke, I've only had nightmares about him with panda. I'm gonna have to try the ilsix technical after to see if I can finally do that one too
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 20, 2016, 06:25:46 AM
that's because she got an ult when BvS collab debuted lol

So did Superman, but that didn't stop him from getting further buffs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 20, 2016, 06:03:27 PM
heyyy apparently we're getting the 9.3.1 patch in about 3 days(?), that's the one with the badges, getting hypes
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 20, 2016, 06:04:51 PM
Oh dang that's cool, I could use that lock resist one right about now. I'm farming Star Justice but I only have an 80% lock resist with Gabriel which is trouble for the second floor. Guess I get to find out whether I actually got in the top 10% of Horus Challenge or not. I think I can it pretty close but came in just under but I'm not really sure.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 21, 2016, 02:57:17 AM
Got him!

(http://i.imgur.com/VoRQkGI.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 21, 2016, 05:28:37 PM
Hey Chirei, what's the point of inheriting the same monster's skill onto itself? Talking about your Skoold, here.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 21, 2016, 05:32:11 PM
Helps with (which is to say trivializes) skill delay since the second skill will get delayed while leaving the first intact.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 21, 2016, 06:01:05 PM
I see I see... I just assumed most people had SBRs on their teams :V I guess nulling SBs works too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 21, 2016, 06:07:56 PM
No reason to use skill bind resists when you can just sidestep the mechanic AND save your latent slots for relevant stuff. Plus I'm pretty sure this saves you from any amount of delay, even over five. And delay resists are hard enough to get that you can't feasibly put them on every member of multiple teams, etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 21, 2016, 06:56:32 PM
You don't even need to use the same skill! You can use long-cooldown trash inheritables for that reason. The only upside to it being the same skill is the case if you accidentally charge up the second one.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on August 21, 2016, 07:25:12 PM
Hey Commander, you around here ? I need some help with Gran Reverse.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 21, 2016, 08:00:52 PM
Nope, I'm out. Not sure I'll be home tonight but if I am at some point I'll pop on IRC.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 22, 2016, 04:42:10 PM
So Another Justice looks like exactly the lead blue machines wants, which I imagine is the point. Right now I'm looking at running something lije this with him:

Another Justice/Scheat/Kamui/Alfecca/Shinji or Orochi/Another Justice

Depending on what I can find for friends I'll either inherent Urd or Famiel's active onto my Another Justice. Since it is kind of necessary to have up when you need it up I don't want both leads inherited so I don't have to worry about overcharging, but I don't think I really need two Justice Modes either.

Kind of wish I had a second Scheat to put in the flex slot when I can get away with it, but two of the same chase GFE is a lot to wish for. Co-op with this team could be nuts though if I can find someone with a similar team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 23, 2016, 03:22:14 PM
God dammit, the one thing I need to get Another Justice evolved is a Dub-Mythlit. Wasted 30 pal machine pulls and got nothing. I guess this gives me another excuse to farm Ilsix for Blodin skillups?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 23, 2016, 07:52:24 PM
God dammit, the one thing I need to get Another Justice evolved is a Dub-Mythlit. Wasted 30 pal machine pulls and got nothing. I guess this gives me another excuse to farm Ilsix for Blodin skillups?

are you implying that Defoud isn't an infinitely easier and faster dungeon to deal with than Ilsix?

because I loathe Ilsix's dungeon like nothing else
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 23, 2016, 09:06:55 PM
are you implying that Defoud isn't an infinitely easier and faster dungeon to deal with than Ilsix?

because I loathe Ilsix's dungeon like nothing else

Does Defoud drop Dub-Mythlits? I guess I forgot.

But yeah, honestly Gabriel doesn't really give a shit about anything in Legendary Snowy Valley. It's a breeze and relatively quick.

Thought I had got my Dub-Mythlit but it dropped a fucking treasure chest. Didn't even know that was possible. Boooo! Can that also happen on the BlodinTama floor?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 23, 2016, 11:12:43 PM
God dammit, the one thing I need to get Another Justice evolved is a Dub-Mythlit.

go fight linthia there is a wave with two dubs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 23, 2016, 11:48:23 PM
Oh god... Talk about dungeons we loathe like nothing else. I fucking HATE Linthia. I guess she's probably not TOO bad now with Charite though? Guess I better give her a shot. I was seriously considering buying a Dub-Mythlit from the MP store there for a second, and that's just silly.

Edit: Okay, no, she's still horrible. Those fucking poison skyfalls. I won, but I'm im no hurry to ever try to do this solo on M+.

Anyway

(http://i.imgur.com/IUBiYJR.jpg)

Gettin' there!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 24, 2016, 09:20:31 AM
Random headtheorying of sdm cast into pad cards (http://pastebin.com/VGN75N6z) while waiting for maintenance...
wrote it down in pastebin so as not to take up a boatload of space here
you can tell I got bored of it by the end of it, that and I don't really care much for the sdm cast anyway
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 24, 2016, 01:46:45 PM
Is anyone else missing "complete a dungeon in multiplayer mode" from the achievements? I guess I don't know what they mean by "complete", but I've co-opped a bunch of times.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on August 24, 2016, 01:47:19 PM
yea seems like we all got that one missing
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 24, 2016, 01:51:47 PM
PAAAAAD!

Oh well, hopefully that means it will be fixed quickly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 24, 2016, 02:03:43 PM
MECH ULTS  :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3

Currently spamming Masks; will spam Lits in a couple days :3 :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 24, 2016, 02:07:50 PM
Alright, let's use my new stones (less than I thought I would have because I got cockblocked on badges >:O)  to get more garbage from the Summer REM.

-Goemon again
-Fuu again

Yaaaaay trash! I love those troll golds. Love 'em.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 24, 2016, 02:22:07 PM
They already mentioned that the multiplayer one will have to be redone so yeah ::)
Hope people are over on irc
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 24, 2016, 02:38:30 PM
Another roll, another dupe Kurone... but I did get the TAMAs I need to remax my Polluxes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 24, 2016, 03:19:10 PM
In case anyone wasn't sure (I wasn't) the "complete a multiplayer dungeon" achievement can seemingly be done with ANY dungeon. Just pick something cheap.

Turns out I must have placed in the top 10% of Horus Challenge, because I do have that quest done. So all quests+all badges unlocked.

Two more pulls, two more duplicate silvers. Oh well, it's my fault.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 24, 2016, 04:14:15 PM
At least the stones gave me a navi. Which means I got all silvers? Maybe I can use these to make a cheapo team to get S ranks with.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: yomichiyu on August 24, 2016, 09:13:07 PM
Gah, I thought I was all set with the badges. And then I realized I never finished Alt. Talos. Oh well, it'll be an easy steamroll with ShivaDra.

Used the free stones on the pulls and got 2 Goemon. Welp, time to get 6k MPs. Still trying to get Awilda :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 24, 2016, 11:26:45 PM
this was a good brain exercise.

(http://i.imgur.com/LE55pAf.png) (http://i.imgur.com/EKk9AqU.png)

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 25, 2016, 03:15:17 AM
I spent too much time and stamina, but I got both L/R and L/D Pollux :derp: Correct me if I'm wrong, but for dungeons where you really need to crack high defense values, L/R Pollux is much better, whereas L/D Pollux is better for dungeons in which you'll be taking a large amount of damage. Either way, since I have both subbing on each other's teams, the haste Awakenings are certainly welcome for Challenge Dungeons with a floor 1 party nuke. I have 6 Skill Boosts, so I can now actually handle those types of dungeons :)

L/R Pollux seems pretty great, though, because even with scrapped together Machine monsters, I got a nice addition from the 1.3x multiplier. My L/R Pollux team is getting 7003 ATK and 12k HP before the multiplier, so that's pretty good with an additional 16-20x from the Leader Skills. And everything charges pretty fast compared to what I'm used to.

L/D Pollux is just stuck with my normal team, which is getting pretty nice, slowly. It has 6.8k ATK and 12k HP, but I'm getting that 30%-ish damage reduction on everything but Light, so it's nearly the same thing. Except for the significantly reduced attack. And vastly increased sub pool. But whatever. I'm sure that not being limited to Machines will eventually make my L/D Pollux team better.

Oh right, the God Killer. That's pretty nice too, except that I simply don't have the skill to do difficult Descended Dungeons :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 03:23:06 AM
I spent too much time and stamina, but I got both L/R and L/D Pollux :derp: Correct me if I'm wrong, but for dungeons where you really need to crack high defense values, L/R Pollux is much better, whereas L/D Pollux is better for dungeons in which you'll be taking a large amount of damage. Either way, since I have both subbing on each other's teams, the haste Awakenings are certainly welcome for Challenge Dungeons with a floor 1 party nuke. I have 6 Skill Boosts, so I can now actually handle those types of dungeons :)

L/R Pollux seems pretty great, though, because even with scrapped together Machine monsters, I got a nice addition from the 1.3x multiplier. My L/R Pollux team is getting 7003 ATK and 12k HP before the multiplier, so that's pretty good with an additional 16-20x from the Leader Skills. And everything charges pretty fast compared to what I'm used to.

L/D Pollux is just stuck with my normal team, which is getting pretty nice, slowly. It has 6.8k ATK and 12k HP, but I'm getting that 30%-ish damage reduction on everything but Light, so it's nearly the same thing. Except for the significantly reduced attack. And vastly increased sub pool. But whatever. I'm sure that not being limited to Machines will eventually make my L/D Pollux team better.

Oh right, the God Killer. That's pretty nice too, except that I simply don't have the skill to do difficult Descended Dungeons :V

Just how scraped together are your machine subs? I'm assuming you have the other Pollux and Verche, but what else you got?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 25, 2016, 03:39:00 AM
Hah, I wish I had enough EXP for Verche. I'm still filling his Uevo up, so he's only level 53 or so.  My Light machine subs are limited to Regulus and L/R Pollux, so for the other two subs I have Cinderella for the bind heal and Waifu Izanami for some extra survivability until I Reincarnate Verche. Maybe I have more, but if I do, they aren't that great or anything. With just the two and Alcyone as a sub, I'm getting 23k HP and somewhere over 10k ATK. It'd be nice if I could get Seraphis, but hey, what can I do.

I really meant scrapped together...

For a reference, with LR Pollux/LD Pollux/Regulus/Cinderella/LIzanami/Alcyone, I can almost clear Mythical Masks, meaning I could potentially brute force clear some slightly harder Descended Dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 03:56:49 AM
Yeah Seraphis was the first one that came to mind for me too, but unfortunately he's just not that great unless he has a lot of skillups. It's conceivable that you miiiiight be able to get one with some co-op assistance, but it's not like you can practically farm him like that.

Other standout farmable machines include:

-Myr: but she's even harder to farm than Seraphis.

-Mech Zeus: Same thing x10.

-Acrux: Maaaaaybe the best of the biweekly white dragon machines. Still not good, but he might do in a pinch and shouldn't be too hard to get.

-Deus Ex Machine: Decent stats for a farmable and active is pretty niche so skillups probably don't matter THAT much. Relatively hard to get, but might be possible with co-op.

-Sherospada: Pretty great stats and awakenings, very decent active. Can you farm Keeper of Gold? If you can this guy might be a really solid investment, especially now that evolved golems drop like candy out of Monday Dungeon. If you can't maybe consider one of his pre-evolved forms since they still have good HP and a passable active.

-Valhalla: Kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel, but his stats border on passable and his active isn't worthless. Not too hard to get.

-Kotodama: Is a real dumpster fire in pretty much every way, but at least he looks cool? I didn't even know he was a machine...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 25, 2016, 04:12:07 AM
I think I'll try for Deus Ex Machina when she's up, and after that I need to get used to level-up Descendeds so I can do Myr. I don't exactly have the firepower to do them, but it still shouldn't be impossible. The fact aside that turn 1 can kill me with my current level stuff...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 25, 2016, 01:00:34 PM
hey ccool can i get gabe up? I might need him later today at some point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 01:06:46 PM
Given that today is Thursday I tend to pop over to Panda periodically to farm Thursday Dungeon. I'll move Gabe to the first slot so he'll be available all day.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 25, 2016, 02:37:24 PM
Seems a bit odd to be newly introducing combo-lead supports around this time in the meta, but the new awoken kushi might have a better argument for staying on my kirin team maybe
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 02:55:05 PM
Not sure how crippling Kinnukman's drawback will be in practice, but he sure seems like he shits all over Archangels.

I have no idea how to evaluate Awoken Kushinada. Will partly depend on exactly how her scaling works I guess. She certainly seems interesting.

UmiYama miiiight finally be worth using? I guess I'll have to theorycraft a team for them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 25, 2016, 03:17:37 PM
Awoken Kushi, huh.. let's have a looksee...

>LS: Increases ATK after 5+ combo, scales up to 13x ATK for 10 combos--

yoooooo

>--Skyfalls will no longer trigger combo.

bye
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 25, 2016, 03:27:17 PM
Awoken Kushi, huh.. let's have a looksee...

>LS: Increases ATK after 5+ combo, scales up to 13x ATK for 10 combos--

yoooooo

>--Skyfalls will no longer trigger combo.

bye
Pretty much my thought when I saw it myself.  A shame to do that kind of cruelty to such pretty art too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 03:46:05 PM
A looot of how good she ends up being is going to be contingent on how good her multiplier is at 8 combos I think. Since she increases your combo count by one with her active and seven is fairly reasonable to reach if you don't care what you're matching I can see hitting eight fairly consistently. Maybe, with practice
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 25, 2016, 03:52:27 PM
Not to mention that there are also actives that raise combo by 2.
Lotsa good news today! Yukimura sub ult (want him for the rows so his lead ult does nothing for me), Awoken Okuni... I guess super ult durga is a thing? Don't think it's *that* great but that's just me. Kinnikuman looks super interesting, I'd love to play with the 4x or more orbs restriction. I'm already conditioned to go TPA or bust most of the time without good reason! :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 25, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
The skyfall not triggering combos bit could potentially be worked out to your benefit in the following turn by guaranteeing that one extra combo, and you wouldn't really want to chance out kill floors on skyfall anyway, so eh iunno, seems like a try and see thing

e: unless they actually mean that her mechanic completely shuts down cascading in general well then I don't even
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 04:35:27 PM
Yeah I don't know how that would even work. My assumption is that skyfalls still happen (and maybe even still increase your damage by adding more colored orbs to damage calculation?) but just don't increase the actual combo count. Not sure.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: hyorinryu on August 25, 2016, 05:00:09 PM
If they finally got around to buffing Cu and Sieg, that'd be pretty cool.

Not sure how to feel about Awoken Ame. On one hand, if you loop actives, that's a constant double RCV bonus, but on the other hand, if you have to loop actives like that, you won't always be able to clear binds when you need too. Seems like she'lll be fun in dungeons without gravites though. She works as a sub in Raoh though.  That's probably where I'll put her.

U&Y might be okay. Easier activation that Sakuya, but vulnerability  to binds seems pretty big. I think he'll be fun, but not really catch on.

Kushinada seems meh to me. I'd rather take the shorter cooldown on the original active. Might try her out as a lead though.

Getting hyped for Okuni though. FInally a team for my non row dark people.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 05:07:26 PM
Yeah I am kind of glad I kept my extra Satsuki now. Maybe Okuni/Satsuki/Satsuki/Sleeping Beauty/Awoken Haku or some Yomi/Okuni might be cool.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 25, 2016, 05:33:10 PM
i never want to see these two again

(http://i.imgur.com/qzVAzwB.png) (http://i.imgur.com/tbYggQY.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 25, 2016, 05:37:29 PM
The actives that give +1 to combo are just fucking weird to me. It just seems very awkward and unnecessary. I know that they're attempting to diversify the gameplay, but... it's like it completely ruins the point of the gameplay. "Don't worry about your skills here, you don't need to combo-- oh, and your strategically setup skyfalls don't count anymore, either. But hey, free combo!"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 05:39:35 PM
Okay, I just had something weird as fuck that I've never seen before happen. Was just doing Thursday Dungeon and at the dungeon rewards screen all of the usual Thursday Dungeon stuff was listed, but at the first slot before my brand new Dragon Seed there was a white jewel. And sure enough there is now a white jewel on my box marked "new" before any of the dungeon stuff.

I mashed through the results screen as usual so I didn't get a screencap, which I'm not kicking myself for. Anybody have any idea how this happened? Is this a new mechanic I haven't heard of where you sometimes get random secret jewels tacked onto your dungeon rewards or something?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 25, 2016, 05:42:38 PM
By white jewel, do you mean the Jewel of Light? Maybe it's a 1% or less drop reward from something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 05:43:57 PM
Yes, that's what I mean. And I didn't fight Sakuya or anything, the dungeon only had four floors and they were all normal, but I got five drops.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 25, 2016, 05:44:32 PM
Okay, I just had something weird as fuck that I've never seen before happen. Was just doing Thursday Dungeon and at the dungeon rewards screen all of the usual Thursday Dungeon stuff was listed, but at the first slot before my brand new Dragon Seed there was a white jewel. And sure enough there is now a white jewel on my box marked "new" before any of the dungeon stuff.

I mashed through the results screen as usual so I didn't get a screencap, which I'm not kicking myself for. Anybody have any idea how this happened? Is this a new mechanic I haven't heard of where you sometimes get random secret jewels tacked onto your dungeon rewards or something?

Some people have been experiencing a similar thing with snowglobes. Apparently it has something to do with the mail change...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 25, 2016, 06:00:16 PM
Huh. Okay, so I went back through my mailbox and my very last mail was a Jewel of Light, which is now open and I'm pretty sure I didn't open it. I, uh, think my mail just opened itself into a dungeon. Hopefully that doesn't continue to happen because I want my mail in the mailbox where it belongs.

Did another Thursday Dungeon and got no weird results, so hopefully it was a one-time fluke.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 25, 2016, 06:23:45 PM
I like how Awoken Kushinadahime has objectively stronger stats all across than Awoken Sachi Bros.

960~ weighted stats, really. What a fantastic sub.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 26, 2016, 12:12:04 AM
Gaaaaah I've gotten five red fruits in a row today. I'd be thrilled if those were blue, but at least they're not yellow. I do at least own Tsubaki. I don't like her or particularly care if she gets skillmax, but I do HAVE her...

Edit: Okay, six in a row. Christ. Will this be ANOTHER Thursday completely wasted or will I get a skillup off of the single blue fruit I found earlier?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on August 26, 2016, 12:27:57 AM
Fyi, there are no skyfall stages in PADW (lol) and cascade still works there. New orbs won't fall down until your cascades are done and those new orbs won't trigger.

Tbh awoken kushi seems fun to use, bind proof is a huge bonus too. Definitely gonna try using her.

She can be good if her ls multiplier scale ridiculously. My complaint would actually be how slow her active is. 1 turn 75% for 8 cd sounded slow in the first place anyways and now it's 10cd for the extra combo...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 26, 2016, 04:47:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/LrMfn65.jpg)

Mythical difficulty 0-stone. Not sure if I can be assed to 0-stone Legend Plus.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 26, 2016, 01:17:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tschyD7l.png)
Third time's the charm, right?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 27, 2016, 02:29:30 AM
Alright, got another five stones, this will probably be my second-to-last Summer REM pull, if not the last one.

Looking for Navi or a non-sticker gold, preferably Meimei.

-Navi

Huh. Not too bad. Not sure what I'll use her for, but that gives me all the silvers. Which makes doing any more pulls after this REALLY silly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 27, 2016, 02:52:14 AM
a non-sticker gold, preferably Meimei.

That's the dream... I doubt my next roll will be such a beautiful being, but maybe I'm wrong. For me, doing any rolls at all was really silly. After I got School Sakuya on a whim, my luck went straight down the drain, in every game I play, not just PAD. I'll roll again anyways.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 27, 2016, 03:49:26 AM
Doing a handful of rolls to get Armadel was definitely worth it, but anything after that is just for goofs. After this I think it'll be back to saving up to try to get a second Gabriel unless there's something exceptionally cool and new in the Halloween REM at silver. Which there probably will be.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 27, 2016, 04:18:36 AM
Because I never learn, one more roll.

-Dupe Goemon

I hated you once, what makes you think I want another one?  Geez, couldn't get something actually cool like Navi or Armadel at least?  Oh well, I knew what I was getting into and paid the price for my avarice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 27, 2016, 09:48:30 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/3ehUthe.jpg)

Ended up doing Legend Plus when I remembered Gungnir heals awakening binds

hooray!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 27, 2016, 12:51:00 PM
Wait, ypu inherited Gungnir onto Bleu? That amuses me somehow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 27, 2016, 01:56:24 PM
That's the dream... I doubt my next roll will be such a beautiful being, but maybe I'm wrong. For me, doing any rolls at all was really silly. After I got School Sakuya on a whim, my luck went straight down the drain, in every game I play, not just PAD. I'll roll again anyways.

(http://imgur.com/9wtddZJ.png)

On a different note, I think I'll dump this TAMA+297 onto my other +56 Pollux. Cuz I still have a spare from the last time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Edible on August 27, 2016, 04:09:18 PM
My PAD engine has been idling for a long time, so I'm a little out of it.

After dumping all my stones on PAD Island and basically getting nothing of note, my very last pull was Lakshmi.  I can also afford Beach Myr; If I pull the trigger, is Lakshmi a good sub for Myr, and what other cards are staples of a team with her?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 27, 2016, 06:47:30 PM
Lakshimi doesn't seem to be one of the better subs for Myr by any means, even though she does fit in, barely. Her nuke is kinda extra on a Myr team, and all you really get out of it is 4 Heart Orbs. I think you'd want a Gabriel (more, maybe) or something similar. Maybe Neptune Dragon for utility. To my (limited) knowledge, you just need some way to get at least 4 Water orbs and 5 Heart orbs every turn. Also, anything that Board Changes to Water and Heal would definitely be good. Meaning... Ryune, most likely. Or a Skoold. Still gonna want some more Utility, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 27, 2016, 09:29:31 PM
So I don't know how much this translated to Myr, but this is what I've learned from running Sumire as far as subs go. I may be missing some big ones for Myr, but these are my best guesses:

-Gabriel and/or Andromeda, possibly in multiples. Cover both of the things you need and have rows, which seem like you may want to commit to.

-Sumire, especially in multiple. Keeps all of the orbs you need flowing and provides two valuable time extends, since getting a cross and good combos can be tricky on some boards.

-Kamui, Hatsume, or Amon. Having an orbchange that doesn't interact with hearts in any way is something I've been experimenting with on Sumire. It's easy to accidentally flood the board with too many hearts and make activating a cross difficult or impossible, so a way to give yourself more ammo while you already have a lot of hearts on-board seems valuable. Might be able to get weird here with Sadalmelik or Alfecca too.

-Ryune, or maybe Skuld or Famiel. Three-color board changes that make blue and hearts are a lifesaver, and will be even better on Myr since she doesn't care about enhanced orbs so there's less of a risk of getting a dud board than with Sumire. But even with that risk I've never gotten a Ryune board I couldn't use for anything. As long as you don't have way too many hearts you should be able to work with whatever.

So other than orb manipulation you don't really NEED much utility for a cross lead, which is part of what makes them so good. You don't need a shield, you rarely need a delay since you can tank some unlikely stuff, and you can usually hit hard enough that you don't need true damage or poison for much. It might be worth packing a bind clear even though Myr is bind-immune just for your subs, but you should usually be able to work around that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 27, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
~kyun~~ I said something mostly correct, for a change :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 27, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
At the moment I think the general consensus is that beach myr doesn't do anything that regular light myr can't do so personally I would avoid trigger pulling on her. Also it seems beach lakshmi and beach myr isn't a bad pair to lead with so you could always take that route if you really wanted to run her.

With the exception of burst/boss floors, being able to tank pretty much anything and everything the game can throw at you means you can even stall out for the water/light orbs that you need, meaning you can always just run mons that only give you hearts. Not preferable to skills that can provide both of course, but for most floors and dungeons it seems enough.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on August 28, 2016, 01:18:31 AM
Update my data, please:
Public Slot: Musical Hell Mechanical Star God, Pollux +297
Friend/Dynamic Slot: Musical Heaven Mechanical Star God, Pollux +205
BFF Slot: School Sakuya

Also: Cleared Hera-Is! I'm slowly making my way up the ladder.
Also Also: Cleared Hera-Beorc! I is thinking I can brute force Goddess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 28, 2016, 10:10:01 AM
Wait, ypu inherited Gungnir onto Bleu? That amuses me somehow.

Water Gift is a dead skill, so it was pretty much the only candidate for Gungnir. Besides, tans are relatively easy to farm.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 28, 2016, 04:38:45 PM
Oh yeah I definitely understand the why, I just find it funny to picture the snowglobe dragon either holding Gungnir as a physical object or just opening its mouth and shooting out a light spear shaped laser at things.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 29, 2016, 04:07:16 AM
What is everybody's max number of friends? I just increased mine up to 90, which seems like way too many, but whenever I want to add someone new I can never find anyone to cut. I guess it's because I like to switch around to different leads sometimes, but I'm surprised how few 85 seemed like it was.

Edit: If anyone sees any Another Justice users please let me know. I want to start using mine but PDX doesn't list anyone leading with him.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 29, 2016, 04:12:09 AM
What is everybody's max number of friends? I just increased mine up to 90, which seems like way too many, but whenever I want to add someone new I can never find anyone to cut. I guess it's because I like to switch around to different leads sometimes, but I'm surprised how few 85 seemed like it was.

Edit: If anyone sees any Another Justice users please let me know. I want to start using mine but PDX doesn't list anyone leading with him.

(http://imgur.com/BmYBA7w.jpg)

Huh...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 29, 2016, 04:56:05 AM
What is everybody's max number of friends? I just increased mine up to 90, which seems like way too many, but whenever I want to add someone new I can never find anyone to cut. I guess it's because I like to switch around to different leads sometimes, but I'm surprised how few 85 seemed like it was.

Edit: If anyone sees any Another Justice users please let me know. I want to start using mine but PDX doesn't list anyone leading with him.

125. There was a point where I had 100, but everybody wanted to be my friend for some reason...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on August 29, 2016, 12:12:34 PM
What is everybody's max number of friends? I just increased mine up to 90, which seems like way too many, but whenever I want to add someone new I can never find anyone to cut. I guess it's because I like to switch around to different leads sometimes, but I'm surprised how few 85 seemed like it was.

300

and it's been like that for a while... 300's the soft cap
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 29, 2016, 12:17:27 PM
Uh...65.  I have a hard time spending stones on that when it could be REM rolls instead.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 29, 2016, 12:31:57 PM
Okay, let's finish Courage. This snow globe should be enough...
>super!!
FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 29, 2016, 12:35:03 PM
So I've been messing around with Another Justice/Rukia (since it's a fair approximation of dual Another Justice) and yeah, as expected it's pretty much shitty Neptune Dragon with prongs instead of rows. The main upside is that Another Justice works very well with Scheat and she's super fun to use. It's also nice to not have to spend a slot on a bind clear so I can squeeze in more obchanges.

Right now the team is Another Justice/Scheat/Kamui/Alfecca/Awoken Orochi/Rukia. I need to finish skillmaxing Another Justice and Alfecca, inherent Force onto Orochi and Sunset Zone or something onto Another Justice, finish hypermaxing Kamui, find some actual Another Justice friends, and I'll have... Basically a worse version of a team I already have but with way less co-op potential. But it's so COOL...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 29, 2016, 02:18:42 PM
Ult Kaede is the most bizarrely amusing leader I've played in a long time. She's absurdly, ridiculously strong, but nailing a 3 wood combo with cross heart activation is ridiculously hard and resource-heavy. I mean, I know I can ride a shield buff out until I take damage, but dang.

And what's worse is that she's an absolute nightmare to use against any boss that punishes you for being good at the game (read: anything with Resolve), because it's like she's either hitting with a feather or an atomic fucking bomb.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 29, 2016, 02:36:00 PM
Ult Kaede is the most bizarrely amusing leader I've played in a long time. She's absurdly, ridiculously strong, but nailing a 3 wood combo with cross heart activation is ridiculously hard and resource-heavy. I mean, I know I can ride a shield buff out until I take damage, but dang.

And what's worse is that she's an absolute nightmare to use against any boss that punishes you for being good at the game (read: anything with Resolve), because it's like she's either hitting with a feather or an atomic fucking bomb.

Sumire obviously doesn't hit AS hard as Kaede, but I've found that with a lot of Resolve enemies she can actually just blast away at them heedlessly since with 75% damage reduction she can tank a lot of insta-kills. Being blue she probably has considerably higher HP than Kaede, but it should still work against some stuff.

Also, maybe consider using Voice (or Sasuke or actually probably Astaroth in your case even though the rows are wasted) if you're not already. I've found Kamui to be really handy on Sumire so far for those times when you need more ammo but already have a lot of hearts and don't want to flood yourself.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 29, 2016, 03:24:07 PM
And what's worse is that she's an absolute nightmare to use against any boss that punishes you for being good at the game (read: anything with Resolve), because it's like she's either hitting with a feather or an atomic fucking bomb.

just don't match the cross or whatever, she has toggleable damage, and I highly doubt a cross of hearts is just going to drop down most of the time and ruin your day

also holy shit robot piranhas
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrAqUodVIAATk5Q.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 29, 2016, 03:49:07 PM
THE DARIUS COLLAB WE ALWAYS DESERVED
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 29, 2016, 03:51:39 PM
also holy shit robot piranhas
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrAqUodVIAATk5Q.jpg:large)

*Gasp* She's perfect! I mean not really, the sub version would want to be blue/white to be perfect for my purposes, but her art is perfect!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on August 29, 2016, 04:21:40 PM
Oooooh, me likey.

An anglerfish is an interesting addition.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 29, 2016, 04:26:10 PM
I CAN USE ALRESCHA #2 INSTEAD OF BLODIN???

BUT FUCK I ALREADY DID IT
(http://imgur.com/c2SyZNf.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 29, 2016, 04:32:16 PM
I CAN USE ALRESCHA #2 INSTEAD OF BLODIN???

BUT FUCK I ALREADY DID IT
(http://imgur.com/c2SyZNf.jpg)

Congratulations! /Eva

Remind me, what is this for again?

I need to hunt down another Alrescha. Like, at least one if not several.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 29, 2016, 04:47:14 PM
Congratulations! /Eva

Remind me, what is this for again?

I need to hunt down another Alrescha. Like, at least one if not several.

(http://imgur.com/0Jn22Yo.jpg)

For every dungeon with Gods that Fenrir can kill, Sherias can kill something with devils. (Or healers)

That said, Sherias is waiting on a rainbow buff similar to the absurdity that Fenrir got; instead of capping at 7.5^2, he'll cap later at 12.5^2, which is you know. More than twice as strong.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 29, 2016, 04:54:00 PM
Right, right. Super cool. I'm not super impressed by Sherias right now but I'd love to give him a shot if I had one.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 29, 2016, 04:56:27 PM
He's not really impressive (though I love having 100% upkeep on Amenouzume due to haste spam). He's mainly a counterpick for when Fenrir isn't as appropriate.

Gotta have them backpocket options?

(I think I'll be able to safely take off Change the World from Blodin once the rainbow buff hits, admittedly, but his stats are pretty great to be replacing with Alrescha...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 29, 2016, 06:27:13 PM
Been farming Indigo all day for Aqua Gears. The first floor has of of those and one of the black ones. I have dropped the blue one (66% chance) twice and the black one (33% chance) four times so far. Ugh... At least I got a skillup out of one of the blue ones that did drop? But this dungeon has shit experience and shit +s so it's still a bad deal.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 29, 2016, 10:15:38 PM
also holy shit robot piranhas
ugh what? I look away from pad for two days and they give alrescha a boob job and a ridiculous dress what the heck gungo, and what happened to her awesome robot mermaid legfintail
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 29, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
ugh what? I look away from pad for two days and they give alrescha a boob job and a ridiculous dress what the heck gungo, and what happened to her awesome robot mermaid legfintail

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrAqAmbUEAAEynN.jpg:large)

i dunno man it looks all natural to me
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 29, 2016, 10:47:49 PM
i dunno man it looks all natural to me
eyyy much better

I don't know how you can fit those other ones under her preult shirt (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_2418.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 29, 2016, 11:05:08 PM
eyyy much better

I don't know how you can fit those other ones under her preult shirt (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_2418.jpg)

i remember a rule that applies to buildings, and applies to boobs too

"they're always bigger on the inside"

wait why am i even talking about this what is going on
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 29, 2016, 11:35:17 PM
i remember a rule that applies to buildings, and applies to boobs too

"they're always bigger on the inside"

wait why am i even talking about this what is going on
point taken (http://imgur.com/Qu3ppJp.jpg)

e: warning slightly nsfw if you're at w
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 30, 2016, 12:11:27 AM
ugh what? I look away from pad for two days and they give alrescha a boob job and a ridiculous dress what the heck gungo, and what happened to her awesome robot mermaid legfintail

She took is apart to build her awesome robots fishbuddies.

I literally, genuinely did not even look at her chest. I was busy looking at every other part of the art.

Although man that other one is great too I wish I had two of heeeer. Best pantheon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 30, 2016, 01:29:23 AM
i beat the descended challenge!

(http://i.imgur.com/tWMb8jC.png) (http://i.imgur.com/61Q46kZ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/niLyap1.png)

wait what do you mean that wasn't the right one nooooo
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 30, 2016, 01:56:05 AM
i beat the descended challenge!

(http://i.imgur.com/tWMb8jC.png) (http://i.imgur.com/61Q46kZ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/niLyap1.png)

wait what do you mean that wasn't the right one nooooo

Ha ha neat, that team looks a lot like mine. And very similar to the Michael team I helped my roommate build last week.

I know Gabriel beats Descend Rush after a fashion, but I'm not sure how many runs it would take me to get a beatable set of spawns. Not really sure what percentage of things are impractical for him to beat, but I don't think it's that high. PAD has actually been keeping me pretty busy though so I haven't felt like I had the stamina to throw at it until I win yet.

If you don't mind my asking, how many tries did it take you to beat it, and did you try any other teams before that one?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 30, 2016, 02:01:53 AM
Ha ha neat, that team looks a lot like mine. And very similar to the Michael team I helped my roommate build last week.

I know Gabriel beats Descend Rush after a fashion, but I'm not sure how many runs it would take me to get a beatable set of spawns. Not really sure what percentage of things are impractical for him to beat, but I don't think it's that high. PAD has actually been keeping me pretty busy though so I haven't felt like I had the stamina to throw at it until I win yet.

If you don't mind my asking, how many tries did it take you to beat it, and did you try any other teams before that one?

Probably 9-10 tries with this team, and one run I think I lost due to stupidity. You really just need to be able to handle as many of the stupid damage values as possible, but still be able to hit hard enough to skip instant death scripts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 30, 2016, 02:32:52 AM
Kaede was actually able to beat Hanuman on the first try on my end. Those shields are a goddamn lifesaver.

Meanwhile, I continue to struggle with RES bosses. Because fuck that lame-ass mechanic.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 30, 2016, 03:02:32 AM
The problem with Resolve is that a lot of teams will be at serious risk of just insta-losing to a skyfalls even if they're being careful. I'm half inclined to say "If I have to deal with countdown enemies just being a hard stop to my stall teams then everyone else should have to consider that Resolve might be a hard stop to their spike teams", but honestly countdowns aren't even close to being enough to shut down modern stall teams unless there are like three in a row for some reason, so that's not really fair.

I've taken to packing a Miracle of Healing when I fight Gran Reverse because of the number of times I've accidentally over-chipped her into her insta-kill zone. Maybe consider that (inherited) if you have access to it? It makes most Resolve enemies a lot less threatening. The ones that aren't beaten by ignoring damage are pretty much invariably beaten by status or shields, so as far as I remember there's a way around all of the major Resolve threats in the game.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 30, 2016, 01:04:07 PM
Woah srsly three gfs in a row? I don't remember this happening since like a year and half ago. As much as I have no actual use for the mechastar series they're quickly becoming my favorite because their art so I might just have to yoloroll once or twice on them...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 30, 2016, 01:08:08 PM
What do you mean "no use for them"? They're one of the most broadly useful pantheons in the game, especially post-buff. What team wouldn't be happy to just slap one in a random slot? I've even considered running Alrescha on Sumire a few times, although for admittedly niche reasons.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 30, 2016, 01:32:57 PM
For some reason I was only thinking of light, but I supposeses I could switch out someone for castor on panda. Unfortunately it would probably be beach claire which I would be loathe to do since you know I just bought her. The only other two teams I have are asaku and myr. The former I only use for those one-off dungeons that suit her better than myr or panda for some reason, so while I guess she wouldn't not appreciate more support I don't really care to work on her anymore, while the latter wouldn't quite like her heart orbs being taken away in my experience. Haven't yet run into a situation where I couldn't match a cross due to heart saturation.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 30, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
I was hoping for heroes but I guess it was too soon. But yeah 3 day godfest what is this madness?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 30, 2016, 02:32:29 PM
Haven't yet run into a situation where I couldn't match a cross due to heart saturation.

Really? Wow. I think I run into that once a dungeon or more with Sumire. What subs do you use?

It seems like Myr might actually be a great fit for a heartbreaker now that I think about it since you're committed to two members (Myr herself) thst have actives that only make hearts. But if it's not an issue it's not an issue I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 30, 2016, 03:36:57 PM
Really? Wow. I think I run into that once a dungeon or more with Sumire. What subs do you use?
So my team is pretty supers unbalanced. My myr, lakechi, and moogle are skill maxed while baal and fuuma kotaro are not. Baal is at level 2 and takes 17 turns to charge up so he's pretty much useless at the moment save for his awakenings. I'd imagine I would have more room for a heartbreaker (with haste, at that) if any of my friends could bother to skill max their myrs, but as it stands the one with the highest skill level is 10 out of 16 while the rest sit mostly at 1 with a couple blades of grass sticking out at level 3 or 5 or so.

But my moogle makes it all work out somehow, providing 3 hearts every 3 turns if necessary. It's really the mvp of the team. Moogle would be even more amazing if any one of my subs could be replaced with someone with haste, hopefully wukong or saria someday with luck.

So since my myr is reserved for one of those 3 turns that moogle isn't up, I can't exactly run a heartbreaker at the moment since the only other heart generator is my friend myr (who is up like once a dungeon) and lakechi (whom I try to reserve for bursts when I need it). I burn through hearts so I'm almost always never flooded with them.

Right now my team is lacking a board changer (and only apocalypse is really suited to the role, which I don't have) and could really use a couple hasters. I never rolled for light prior to myr so I have next to no other light mons, except alcyone whom I maaay try out sometime if I can get a skillmax friend myr. Your pool of blue probably has lots of blue+heart orb changers, like gabriel, while I only have lakechi, which is probably why you have lots of heart orbs left over while I eat every scrap that falls from the sky.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 30, 2016, 03:48:20 PM
Yeah currently my Sumire team is 6/6 heartmakers, which I think is too many. Right now I'm running Sumire/Sumire/Gabe/Ryune/Snow White/Sumire. It works fairly well but kind of feels like it's over-committed to hearts and lacking in raw orbchange power, plus it has no way to just enhance blue at will, which matters occasionally for Sumire's popcorn. I really feel like I should cut someone for Kamui, or maybe even Christmas Paulina, but I'm not sure who.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 30, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
Seems like you could always inherit a blue maker on Isis or the other way around, depending on how fast your hastes work for you, to replace Snow White if you have her. You could probably even stall out binds together with the bindproof leader badge if you had to
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 30, 2016, 04:51:08 PM
I don't own Isis unfortunately. But yeah, Snow White may be the weak point. Right now I just have the +RCV badge and it doesn't seem thaaat necessary here, so cutting her and trying Paulina (may be preferable to Kamui since I value skillboosts and all the hastes with her short cooldown could be hilarious) seems wise. My Paulina isn't hypermax and isn't going to be for a bit, but oh well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 31, 2016, 08:12:45 AM
hurrrrr

Pulled two straight Ronoves.

Now I know I -shouldn't- impulse buy a Ragnarok dragon, but. You know.

Ronove/Kaede/Ronove/Ragnarok/???

It sounds like a good time. I'm tired of all these duplicate GFEs though (Fenrir, Sherias, Ronove now...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 31, 2016, 01:56:37 PM
The other day I did one apathy pull for pad island

>bmeta

holy mediocrity dupe batman

today's apathy pull

>lmeta

please stop
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 31, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
Really wish I had a Hatsume or an Amon at this point. Kamui is nice and all, but they both seem way better for Sumire. I may have to just start reserving all of my pulls for blue galas so I can pick up the weird blue odds and ends I'm still missing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on August 31, 2016, 04:52:28 PM
wait what even the what, how is disabling awoken skills + binding leaders even fair wth linthia, you can't even prepare for that by bringing a bind clearer sub because it's all up to the rng which ones she binds

e: sigh ok, is it orochi? is that the answer? "I hope you have this mon in your party cuz lolzz otherwise hahah!" that's not even good level design. I mean I have him but still goddamn

e2: or I suppose the bindproof leaders badge would work but omg this is so frustrating.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 31, 2016, 05:18:32 PM
Linthia is the worst dungeon in the game. M+ Linthia is the only solo clear I don't have, and frankly probably won't until she gets power creeped into oblivion. She's just too un-fun.

A tanky team with Orochi seems to have the best odds of killing her, but even then every time I have to do her scum dungeon for whatever reason it ends up getting cut uncomfortably close.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 31, 2016, 06:40:55 PM
wait what even the what, how is disabling awoken skills + binding leaders even fair wth linthia, you can't even prepare for that by bringing a bind clearer sub because it's all up to the rng which ones she binds

she only binds at 90% health so just don't do 10% of her health in 5 turns
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: hyorinryu on August 31, 2016, 08:34:39 PM
Linthia is the worst dungeon in the game. M+ Linthia is the only solo clear I don't have, and frankly probably won't until she gets power creeped into oblivion. She's just too un-fun.

A tanky team with Orochi seems to have the best odds of killing her, but even then every time I have to do her scum dungeon for whatever reason it ends up getting cut uncomfortably close.

Wasn't Linthia always balanced for co-op?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on August 31, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Was she? That would explain a lot. She just gets lumped in with the other rogue dungeons so the game doesn't make that distinction explicitly, but maybe that was the intent.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 01, 2016, 12:28:35 AM
For leader skills that say things like "2x ATK and 1.5x HP for [type] and [type]", do the multipliers apply double to monsters with both types, or does it only apply once per monster? I'm thinking about Bride Eschamali in particular, here, mainly because wishful thinking leads me to believe that Eschamali and my Polluxes would get 9x from her (4x1.5x1.5).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 01, 2016, 12:33:34 AM
In cases like that it's almost always true that you don't get the bonus more than once for having more than one of the types listed. There are a few skills that work differently, but they're worded in such a way that makes it explicitly clear that having more than one of the required types gives more bonuses (see Grimoires).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 01, 2016, 01:01:27 AM
OHKO'ing Kali is always a treat.

(https://imgur.com/ooe9tqB.jpg)

In the absence of anything better to do today, I got two clears of Arena 1, including a fistfight with DKali after removing 60% of her HP on a decent board.

Bubpy and Badpy, though. Woodpys where?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: hyorinryu on September 01, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
Was she? That would explain a lot. She just gets lumped in with the other rogue dungeons so the game doesn't make that distinction explicitly, but maybe that was the intent.

Someone else can correct me on this, but I remember never bothering with Linthia before they made everything co-op because she was exclusively co-op. She and Gainaut were co-op exclusive I think.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 01, 2016, 04:09:27 AM
I thought Gainaut was pretty tame on the lower difficulties, if only slow to run because I&I/Ryune strats. And I think I ran him solo when he debuted as well.

But my memories are hazy. I sure don't want to farm his dungeon again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on September 01, 2016, 11:16:47 AM
so it seems like godfests aren't even a thing, pulled 5 because I kept getting junk

guan yu (dupe)
blodin (new, but what?)
basilisk (i don't even)
dill sirius (new, but ehh?)
dark valk (i just bought your beach self you know, dupe)
red cyberdragon (dupe, lolred)

ehh?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 01, 2016, 12:09:57 PM
BOdin has fantastic stats and Awakenings, with only his situational active truly holding him back so he is actually pretty legit.

Also yknow, 6* GFE and such.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 01, 2016, 12:18:32 PM
Did two pulls fishing for Alrescha or Isis.

-Kakkab: Cool, but would've been nice to have a few days ago when I was farming Indigo for blue gears and kept getting black gears. Oh well, I'm nowhere near done farming that dungeon.

-Fenrir: Ooooh neat. Been wanting to try him.

So what I learned here is that when I pull in blue galas I get 100% red shit, but when I pull in other galas I get 100% drops from that gala. Thanks game, that's just lovely.

Also, six Thursday Dungeon runs so far today looking for blue fruits, got 5 green and, 1 red. Fucking bite me, fruits.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 01, 2016, 12:26:05 PM
-Fenrir: Ooooh neat. Been wanting to try him.
<3
(Get ready to farm Gainaut!)

His skillups are baby predras until next Wednesday, so skilling him up is about as EZ as it gets. Fortunately, predras are also today so YOU KNOW. Coop?

Though, if you have Awoken Ra or any other comparable rainbow lead, I recommend sticking with them. Cause, jammers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 01, 2016, 12:34:53 PM
<3
(Get ready to farm Gainaut!)

His skillups are baby predras until next Wednesday, so skilling him up is about as EZ as it gets. Fortunately, predras are also today so YOU KNOW. Coop?

Though, if you have Awoken Ra or any other comparable rainbow lead, I recommend sticking with them. Cause, jammers.

I can't co-op fun things at the moment, I'm trapped in an endless maze of fucking fruit.

Yeah, I've got an Awoken Ra that I barely use, so I certainly don't NEED Fenrir for anything. Kind of want to try him though. But his near-exclusive sub requirements do make that seem like quite an investment. What other subs does he use?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 01, 2016, 01:03:29 PM
-Pandora
Sometimes a yoloroll does give you stuff you want.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 01, 2016, 01:12:34 PM
the advantage that Fenrir has is that he gets two farmable Kali boards, one of which even has an added poison bonus for dumb things like killing predra. Also, he doesn't have type requirements (unlike Ra being unable to use Orochi, for example)

Aside from that I just use Orochi because he does great standalone damage and hamazing active skill, and Amaterasu because cleric and double SBR. Ganesha's super ult having 2x SBR means you could cheese some things with him eventually.

Gainaut is pretty important, though. He's pretty fast (8 turns and makes hearts!) and he's also your only hope of killing Meimei in Arena, etc. But damn is he expensive to make.

It is possible to focus heavily on Dark (Zaerogoo, Persephone, etc) and hardly think about the rainbow part but then you might as well use an actual mono-dark lead.

If I had Fenrir Viz, Gainaut>Viz combo would be terrifying and guarantee 9 jammers and 4 colors still left. Instant x400 right there. Viz has two SBR as well but, you know, 6* GFE.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on September 01, 2016, 01:14:47 PM
-Pandora
Sometimes a yoloroll does give you stuff you want.
still reliable, but about 3 months late :/ rip panda
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 01, 2016, 01:27:59 PM
the advantage that Fenrir has is that he gets two farmable Kali boards, one of which even has an added poison bonus for dumb things like killing predra. Also, he doesn't have type requirements (unlike Ra being unable to use Orochi, for example)

Aside from that I just use Orochi because he does great standalone damage and hamazing active skill, and Amaterasu because cleric and double SBR. Ganesha's super ult having 2x SBR means you could cheese some things with him eventually.

Gainaut is pretty important, though. He's pretty fast (8 turns and makes hearts!) and he's also your only hope of killing Meimei in Arena, etc. But damn is he expensive to make.

It is possible to focus heavily on Dark (Zaerogoo, Persephone, etc) and hardly think about the rainbow part but then you might as well use an actual mono-dark lead.

If I had Fenrir Viz, Gainaut>Viz combo would be terrifying and guarantee 9 jammers and 4 colors still left. Instant x400 right there. Viz has two SBR as well but, you know, 6* GFE.

I do have several Orochis, but nothing comes to mind for the white/two lock resists slot. Maybe sub Castor actually since Fenrir doesn't seem to care about hearts? Plus way more God Killer.

The upside to the whole Gainaut situation is that red is my absolute least-used color, which means  I have as surplus of Flampiis. I can start feeding the extras into a Gainaut (who's currently skill level 3) because why not?

So that makes my team probably Fenrir/Gainaut/Gainaut/Castor/Orochi/Fenrir, which doesn't seem greeeat to me. No bind resistance, recovery is sketchy, no shield. HP should be decent, but nothing exceptional. Plus side, I already have two of the subs done?

Edit: Wait, I just noticed Gainaut has a lock resist. So I don't need Castor to have two. Maybe Awoken Yomi or black Metatron?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on September 01, 2016, 01:31:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pJRM48D.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/HbHiDRs.png)

can i quit now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 01, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Castor removes jammers.

Trust me. I've tried... (Hamal works, though)

You've got 6 SBR on that team anyways, since Gainaut has a SBR. Because of that, you could try something like G/G or G/R Susano instead of Castor? Or even Amenouzume to fix both the cleric and RCV issues.

Edit: hurr Ameno doesn't have a SBR oops
And it's only G/L Susano that has a SBR as well so pardon me
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 01, 2016, 01:36:41 PM
As expected, rate up is a lie. Dupe Chrono Turtle, which I'll feed for pluses.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 01, 2016, 01:39:16 PM
it makes sense that I would get Pandora the roll after I feed four excess Badpy to Hanzo.

(https://imgur.com/ohsnz2m.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 01, 2016, 02:18:42 PM
still reliable, but about 3 months late :/ rip panda
She's still a legit sub for future ult akechi tho, no? I mean she has rows so not that much compatibility, but. Doesn't transform away the light orbs so it's still all good!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 01, 2016, 02:38:18 PM
Castor removes jammers.

Trust me. I've tried... (Hamal works, though)

You've got 6 SBR on that team anyways, since Gainaut has a SBR. Because of that, you could try something like G/G or G/R Susano instead of Castor? Or even Amenouzume to fix both the cleric and RCV issues.

Edit: hurr Ameno doesn't have a SBR oops
And it's only G/L Susano that has a SBR as well so pardon me

Oooh right. Yeah Castor is a bad call.

I've got Ame and a spare Susano though,could do them. Probably leaning toward black Metatron at the moment.


She's still a legit sub for future ult akechi tho, no? I mean she has rows so not that much compatibility, but. Doesn't transform away the light orbs so it's still all good!

Super ultimate Panda has a prong. She's definitely a legit sub option.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on September 01, 2016, 03:24:01 PM
She's still a legit sub for future ult akechi tho, no? I mean she has rows so not that much compatibility, but. Doesn't transform away the light orbs so it's still all good!
well she does, the lights turn into hearts
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 01, 2016, 03:31:22 PM
well she does, the lights turn into hearts
Oh, uh. Fuck.
I've been tinkering on the idea of a typhon team as well, though. So she'd do better there then!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 01, 2016, 08:39:12 PM
Up to 11 Thursday Dungeon runs without a single blue fruit drop, much less a skillup. Yup, this is way better than running PreDras. Way better.

The two Bubpiis in my box earmarked for Blodin are starting to look awfully compatible with my second Sumire...

Edit: Alright, took me 15 runs before I finally dropped a single blue fruit, and this is all the stamina I got. Let's see if I can get the skillup off of it and retroactively have not wasted the whole goddamn day.

Oh holy shit, I actually did. Just one to go. Wow, thanks PAD. That feels nice at least.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 02, 2016, 05:53:40 AM
Liberty geist doesn't look that bad will probably run rukia except with the snow globe :V.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on September 02, 2016, 07:16:42 AM
holy shit thanks to everyone screaming for jap 2.0 buffs

Because of Umiyama's LS buff, sarasvati got buffed alongside, in addition to finally getting the 8th and 9th awakening!

Sarasvati LS is now 2x ATK to blue mons (removed 6 blue orb combo requirement), 2 blue combo for 2.5x, 3 blue combo for 5x.
In addition to getting her 3rd sb and a SBR.

She's pretty much REALLY GOOD now, better than dem awaken jap 2.0s lol. It's not tier 1 material but definitely a really powerful lead.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 02, 2016, 08:22:24 AM
This was oddly satisfying. (https://youtu.be/HfUBB4E2tek)

Guess I'm committed to Ronove now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 02, 2016, 12:07:27 PM
2 stones zues +297 down. Had to whoop out the xang mei with muse inherit. Goofed on chimeras and had to use both uriels which led me to having to stall on zues. Sky falls some how put him below 75% and then muse + gadius + uriel left him with a sliver of hp so stoned again for the kill. Overall pretty stressful wish could coop it for ez 297
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 02, 2016, 02:04:45 PM
Jeeeesus Zeus is a cunt. I can definitely 1-stone this with NepDra/NepDra, but I'd lije to 0-stone it if possible just to do it. Honestly I kind of love that this dungeon is 25 stamina. Means I can try a lot of weird strategies with no risk.

What I don't love is the way they blatantly lie about the difficulty, seemingly just to trick people into going in to wring stones out of them. That seems really dirty.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on September 02, 2016, 03:07:15 PM
Jeeeesus Zeus is a cunt. I can definitely 1-stone this with NepDra/NepDra, but I'd lije to 0-stone it if possible just to do it. Honestly I kind of love that this dungeon is 25 stamina. Means I can try a lot of weird strategies with no risk.
Jesus Zeus Descended what?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 02, 2016, 07:01:08 PM
I thiiink I figured out a dual Neptune Dragon team that might 0-stone Annihilation Zeus, but I need no green Chimeras on the fourth floor and they just keep spawning. And even then this is a massive long shot, but it could work. Maybe.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 02, 2016, 08:49:41 PM
My only chance at this dungeon is with my mediocre Sakuya team... Even with that, I've only barely reached floor 3 :(
Then I dumped some plusses and EXP on my subs, only to see that one of the non-blue chimeras had only a 1-turn attack timer that run...

Good thing it's only 25 stamina instead of 50.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 02, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
this fuckin mechdragon fest man

(http://i.imgur.com/OasK1Fq.png)

i took out my anger on zeus by 0-stoning him

(http://i.imgur.com/xTWjEzU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/JiGoyIQ.png)

bubuu he is out
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 02, 2016, 08:57:32 PM
Daaaang yeah it was extra stupid of me to not wait until today to do pulls. Would've really enjoyed Sadalmelik.

Lack of Trash Waifu really has my dual Neptune Dragon teams feeling deficient in the HP department. Almost makes me want to try to pull this off with NepDra/Ryune but I'm pretty sure that's a horrible idea. Have to damage test it in different situations I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 03, 2016, 04:04:32 AM
(http://imgur.com/K7w1UJ5.png)

Husbando M+ clear.

(http://i.imgur.com/uzRCiNr.png)

Campaign clear.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 03, 2016, 05:07:16 AM
did i do it right guys

(https://i.imgur.com/IcMRud8l.png) (https://i.imgur.com/o8RsmHYl.png) (https://i.imgur.com/NPz4iCGl.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/YHmxm3Cl.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 04, 2016, 11:29:25 PM
Alright, I'm done trying to no-stone Zeus. I've gotten three double green Chimera spawns in a row on the second floor. This isn't fun anymore.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 05, 2016, 12:30:01 AM
Meanwhile, I'm still doing Liberty Geist :(

The furthest I've gotten so far is Boss Phase 1 on Mythical. Then I ran out of orb convert skills and died to 100k damage.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on September 05, 2016, 12:51:52 AM
Fuck Liberty Geist, I give up on this stupid-ass dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 05, 2016, 02:58:32 AM
And now we have no choice but to give up on it, since it's over :fail:

Now for Zeus +297.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 05, 2016, 03:07:35 AM
And now we have no choice but to give up on it, since it's over :fail:

Now for Zeus +297.
I hope you like Annihilation level dungeons, complete with ten million HP big chimerae and a nearly 63 million HP boss battle.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 05, 2016, 04:20:02 AM
I can deal with 63 million HP on its own, but the preemptive 20 orb lock is ass...

Arena 1 clear with Baddest Dog on video (https://youtu.be/-lx7WL-FUjg)

it's p bad though
i might be able to clear Arena 2 but definitely with less consistency than I've had with this crew
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 05, 2016, 05:18:00 AM
This dungeon has fairly steep counters for just about every kind of team. The jammer skyfall fucks rainbow teams, the masks and poison spam fuck stall teams, the orb locking preemptive fucks most spike teams, and bad fourth-floor chimera teams mean any red/blue/green team is just going to auto-lose a fair amount of the time because an effectively 20 million HP chimera or two followed by Zeus is too much spiking. And you need shields or extremely high HP if you ever can't one-shot a floor other than the first two...

I could see jammer-based rainbow teams and heart crosses potentially doing a bit better than the rest since they're fucked over by the dungeon mechanics slightly less than most, but it's still probably pretty random. As usual dark teams have a massive advantage since they don't insta-lose to any fourth floor spawns and they get a much easier Zeus than other colors, yet there's barely anything in the dungeon that hoses them (just potentially an easily avoidable or manageable mask bind).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 05, 2016, 05:50:49 AM
Oh shit I didn't even see the preemptive jammer skyfall
This might actually be doable
Maybe I'll bring Ganesha to bait a god bind and give a free turn of damage

Edit: he'll prioritize that mortal poison thing over God Glare if it's the first turn

Fuck you, Zeus.

Reedit: I didn't have any dark orbs so I just went to facetank Poison lock without any shields
Then a dark skyfall happened
(https://imgur.com/FwiVQBU.jpg)

Triedit: if J?rmangandr resists the poison then Zeus just smacks me for 70,000 damage anyways
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Yukarin on September 05, 2016, 10:00:47 AM
I'm actually close to beating Zeus 297 with Dmeta and I almost got him...

If Haku spawned one more blue orb, the board could have been perfect and i would have oneshot him.

EDIT: Speaking of, Matsuri, would it be alright if you put your Dmeta up? (I remember you having her)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on September 05, 2016, 10:09:28 AM
>6 pulls
>last one is gold
>oh shit it's happening
>sano

>:negative:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 05, 2016, 11:41:52 AM
I would have loved a Sano and he's my goal to pull on this collab, so far I've got 2 Yahikos, 3 Honjos and a Megumi :qq:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 05, 2016, 12:55:36 PM
Pulled 3 times, got Honjo, Sano, and Misao. Would have liked Kenshin too, but this is pretty much as good as it's gonna get.

3 Honjos

hey look a button team
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on September 05, 2016, 12:58:22 PM
I would have loved a Sano and he's my goal to pull on this collab, so far I've got 2 Yahikos, 3 Honjos and a Megumi :qq:

but but but :sword!:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 05, 2016, 01:18:44 PM
Re: Zeus 297

Got'em. As ccool speculated, with enough (and not particularly much of it!) luck Fenrir can field an answer to the entire dungeon because that 10 turn jammer preemptive is REALLY STRONG.

Chimeras? Orochi them. Masks? J?rmangandr. Ganesha means I have a fighting chance against Zeus.

but I just OHKO'd him anyways
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 05, 2016, 01:26:47 PM
Meanwhile i am here struggling with Wadatsumi, not gonna even touch that Zeus Dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 05, 2016, 01:29:59 PM
Meanwhile i am here struggling with Wadatsumi, not gonna even touch that Zeus Dungeon.

oh shit no awakenings is back
rip all my active hungry teams
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 05, 2016, 01:37:49 PM
hey look a button team
I was going to bemoan about a lack of skillups but then I saw that she has 3 skill boosts a piece. Rip that second jorm!
but but but :sword!:
Don't get me wrong, any gold :sword!: is good but pad-wise I'm very much GREEN MAN and an on-color answer to Predras is just too good to pass.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 05, 2016, 01:45:52 PM
oh shit no awakenings is back
rip all my active hungry teams

And rip all my OEs, TPAs and Rows.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 05, 2016, 02:13:40 PM
oh shit no awakenings is back
rip all my active hungry teams

but you have coop which is more powerful than any awakening

edit: also a reminder that you can cheat wadatsumi with auto recovery ls and delay cycling

(http://i.imgur.com/5OO6qUS.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 05, 2016, 06:02:50 PM
Can anyone confirm whether or not floor four chimera spawns are fixed in Zeus? I thought I was getting a mix of them earlier on, but at this point I've gotten double green chimeras six times in a row. Does the game just choose the one that fucks your team the most and I'm mistaken about having ever gotten non-green ones?

Edit: Guess I was just phenomenally, near-impossibly unlucky, because I finally got a decent spawn and one-stoned it.

(http://i.imgur.com/n2BorDs.jpg)

I think I could have no-stoned provided I got no green chimeras on floor four and had a Blonia active inherited onto one of the Neptune Dragons. But I didn't, so oh well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 05, 2016, 06:54:50 PM
nailed myself a shinomori, he seems pretty good and may also replace beach urd on my rukia team or possibly become an inherit for someone not sure yet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 06, 2016, 02:26:27 AM
Farming Star Justice is slooooow. I'm very thankful the 4x skillups are here, because if I fed a batch of them and got nothing I think I could crush my phone to powder at this point. But that hasn't happened.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 06, 2016, 03:08:34 AM
Sheer Heart Attack has no weakness! (https://imgur.com/LBq5ss4)

Well we have very few realized weaknesses, at least.
(ha, don't need no God Killer to kill that butt)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on September 06, 2016, 04:46:55 PM
If I hadn't spent all my stones on that junk harvest of a gf last week (save for blodin I guesses) I would be rolling this ruroken collab but nooo. But it seems my 500 day bonus is in a week so hopefully I get something cool then
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: hyorinryu on September 07, 2016, 03:33:43 AM
I went Misao -> Misao -> Kenshin. Feelsgoodman

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on September 07, 2016, 04:00:50 AM
(http://172.11.172.16/img/5RlwMp0yCV0zOxad.png)
They say third time's the charm, but I really don't feel like testing my luck.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on September 07, 2016, 05:10:21 AM
nnnnmm!!! I guess I could roll once now but then again there's nothing I really want (that's within the realms of reality of obtaining, I mean), I guess I'll hold on for a saria or something for later. My kenshin fanness is dying
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 07, 2016, 10:33:22 AM
You'd make me feel bad if I didn't roll at least once, so I got Sarasvati inherit Aoshi.

Sarasvati might have a spot on Sherias at this rate.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 07, 2016, 12:13:15 PM
Just for the record I've got PredDras at 10:00 PM and I intend to have two full stamina bars if anyone wants to co-op.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 07, 2016, 12:26:44 PM
Just for the record I've got PredDras at 10:00 PM and I intend to have two full stamina bars if anyone wants to co-op.

Today is the last day of Fenrir skillups off babies so I'd be down for helping out a good cause. ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on September 07, 2016, 02:20:24 PM
Just for the record I've got PredDras at 10:00 PM and I intend to have two full stamina bars if anyone wants to co-op.
I've got mine at 10 (eastern) as well, I'll be on IRC as usual if anyone wants runs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 07, 2016, 02:26:26 PM
Ooh yeah I should specify EST as well. Thought I did.

Should be able to take Fenrir from zero to max pretty quick. I think I can actually get him, one Jormungandr, and one Gainaut online with relatively little trouble.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 08, 2016, 01:44:06 AM
Did something happen to the IRC channel? I'm getting an error message when I try to log in.

PreDras soon. Who's coming with me?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 08, 2016, 01:49:52 AM
Did something happen to the IRC channel? I'm getting an error message when I try to log in.

PreDras soon. Who's coming with me?
Oh that's good I thought it was just me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 08, 2016, 02:13:37 AM
That's all the stamina I got for tonight. Thanks for the runs, tho (^^
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 08, 2016, 02:15:22 AM
Cool. That was enough to skillmax my Fenrir and then some. Thanks!

Still looking for additional partners for another 13 runs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 08, 2016, 01:54:21 PM
Reward Snowglobes + 600k exp boost are in. Got mine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 09, 2016, 02:43:41 AM
Alright, got a skillmax Gainaut to go with my Fenrir. I don't think I'm gonna shoot for the second one yet. For now my Fenrir team may tentatively be something like Fenrir/Gainaut/Jormungandr/Phoenix Rider/Awoken Ra*/Fenrir

*Quick Cure inherit

How does that look? Wish there were more primary black attackers on there, but oh well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 09, 2016, 03:06:06 AM
I like Phoenix Rider in solo play; you'll have 27~28K HP and you'll go a long way with a high uptime shield

Awoken Ra as a cleric is cool; I like the idea of having access to his fixed damage nuke in case you need J?rmangandr in a later floor as well.

In co-op, since SBR distribution and HP isn't as big of an issue, I think Amenouzume over Phoenix Rider could be useful since the RCV isn't super strong. I think you said you had Ameno, at least. It also frees up Ra's spot as a cleric.

I've tried running with three dark mons, but I think other colors (blue, green, and light in particular) have more useful actives and standalone damage to take advantage of ~Kali boards~ and obscene multipliers

I wouldn't stress about a second Gainaut; that's a lot of investment for a team you might not like (^^
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 09, 2016, 03:38:41 AM
I do have Ame, yeah. Seems like a shame to waste Phoenix Rider's Multi-Boost, but Phoenix Rider is just more relevant in single player.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on September 09, 2016, 04:07:28 PM
(http://172.11.172.16/img/VBzuw7XkCOE8I4rp.png)
Hey Thaws, you up for another round of pain and despair?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 09, 2016, 04:26:34 PM
Uuuh those troll five-stars!

Still trying to skill up Alfecca, who you'll recall needs Aqua Gears, which drop 66% of the time from Indigo. Seven runs so far today, two Aqua Gears dropped. Zero skillups. At least I have Kakkab now so I can use the other drop... But he has zero skillups so far from five feeds. PAAAAD!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 09, 2016, 07:18:44 PM
Two arena clears. Got yet ~another badpy and shynpy~

No sign of woodpys for Ragnarok.
Truly, being able to clear Arena is suffering.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 09, 2016, 07:35:15 PM
Hey FF, what do you think of Kakkab on Fenrir? He has a lock resist, is a nice solid black hitter, and is theoretically capable of boosting my black damage output without breaking my other colors or jammers. Is that wise or useful?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 09, 2016, 07:48:04 PM
Oh yeah Kakkab sounds good on paper. I don't have any immediate concerns aside from relative moderate HP and low RCV.

If you can put on a backup plan skill to take advantage of his bind immunity, that'd be useful as well, I'm certain.

Gotta have that machine dog to go with your bad dogs ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 09, 2016, 09:05:25 PM
Got dark dragon swordsman?(does Fenrir use hearts?)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 09, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
No I don't, and no he doesn't. I have actually to date never pulled a single dragon swordsman of any kind, which really sucks because I'd love to have the full set. The blue one would definitely be used on some Neptune Dragon builds and the rest fit in other weird places. Like this.

In fact the only black heartbreaker option I have is Halloween Vampire Lord (and I guess regular Vampire) and while his limited awakenings do at least do what I want them to do (has a skillboost and a lock resist) I'm not thrilled with his stats. He could work though I guess, and I already have him maxed out.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 09, 2016, 09:17:42 PM
can we just get like
A silver egg rem for 3 eggs per pull? My gold egg rate is high enough that I've not gotten any dragon swordsmen at all as well

If Fenrir used hearts, Gainaut would be even more OP. Imagine scaling up to x900 for RGBLDH+9 jammers.

Not that that's practical. But x144 guaranteed on Gainaut boards would be neat.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 09, 2016, 09:23:45 PM
I've gone out of my way to do pulls on blue galas outside of godfests trying to fish for the blue dragon swordsman (and the blue elemental to inherit onto Charite, but I'm starting to think that's probably unwise, although it would be extremely useful in very niche situations) and all I ever get is Shaitan. Doesn't matter how many pulls I do or where, just multiple Shaitans.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on September 10, 2016, 09:44:56 AM
(http://172.11.172.16/img/VBzuw7XkCOE8I4rp.png)
Hey Thaws, you up for another round of pain and despair?

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Well seriously though I have the other two 6*s and I'm really hesitating to roll this as opposed to waiting for june bride to actually revive with a power upped line up hopefully (which would be a year later...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 10, 2016, 05:09:57 PM
Took my first shot at Ultimate Descended Rush a bit ago. Probably could have cleared it but I got a bit gunshy and tried to stall for too long on my last boss (Disco Hera) and eventually just got ground out. I tried to chip her down and then the plan was to delay, then gravity, then burst, so I needed to stall Ultra Gravity up on Snow White. Since I don't want it coming up accidentally her Ultra Gravity inherit has no skillups, so it took forever, and it hurt my stalling since she's one of my defensive actives normally. In retrospect that was a total waste of time though since a Sun Quan delay would have given me plenty of time and damage to just kill her from anywhere near half anyway. So I wasted a decent spawn for a last boss on a dumb, unnecessary strategy. Oh well, next time hopefully.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 10, 2016, 11:03:51 PM
A fated showdown took place today.  It was post a certain buff, but it doesn't diminish my satisfaction in finally having faced a certain rival and come out on top.

(http://i.imgur.com/6Q1hzpB.jpg)

It's taken a lot for me to be able to face you here.

(http://i.imgur.com/OQ6Kg1Y.jpg)

I pretty much had to end it here or risk him slicing me apart with Last Belief; I actually used his Dragontree Shield against him to ensure I didn't overhit before I was ready.

(http://i.imgur.com/cjDb4zE.jpg)

The final strike!

(http://i.imgur.com/Pi1Kf34.jpg)

I've beaten him before but this clear is special because it's the first time I've been able to use Karin to do it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 10, 2016, 11:23:18 PM
I think post-buff Awoken UmiYama is good enough to build around and offer something new to my array of blue teams. How does this look?

AU&Y/Famiel/AOrochi/Blodin/Alrescha/AU&Y

I'm not thrilled with the lack of a bind clear, the 80% bind resist, or the presence of Blodin, but I can't really think of a better build right now with what I have. Weirdly School Snow White is looking kind of appealing for the bind clear despite being generally junky but I don't know that I can really justify hypermaxing a second, worse Snow White just for this team. Awoken Isis (or especially School Isis) would be great, but I don't have her.

But anyway, I may finally have a nice solid team for ranking dungeons. Another Justice has a lot of potential for that as well but I have yet to find a single other Another Justice player anywhere, so that may never actually happen.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Edible on September 11, 2016, 03:25:16 PM
One last RK yoloroll got me Kenshin

Well shit, I'll take it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 11, 2016, 10:02:29 PM
does anyone remember if centaurs in dark knight dungeon were 100% drop rate? trying to get some michael skill ups and would rather not do beoric with a light team lul
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: KaiserKnuckle on September 11, 2016, 10:20:50 PM
So after a very long while of doing a large amount of un-posted PADding, I have since gotten Perseus to UltEvo into BVD Perseus, alongside hypermaxing him.

I have since also gotten SD Liu Bei from the PEM a while ago, and my new modified team (BVD Perseus / STS Leeza / LD, FBastet / Evo'd SD Liu Bei / Evo'd Griffin) works beautifully in tandem with their skills; Perseus makes Wood orbs from Water and enhances healing items, Leeza creates more Wood orbs on the bottom, Bastet amps the damage, SD Liu Bei creates EVEN MORE Wood orbs from Dark and healing items (whose 'enhanced' trait stays on the new Wood orbs), and Griffin ampps ALL Wood orbs on screen, therefore having at least 80% of screen be filled with enhanced Wood orbs, with ingering Light orbs setting up extra combos fro a mass attack from hell.

Exactly where should I go from now, though? Since I am more or less set with going through the standard/technical dungeons, and my current 'goal', per se, is to get Cauchemar sooner or later to form a team that doesn't only rely on one element. That, and getting enough MP to get full latent awakening slots for my desired monsters.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 11, 2016, 10:29:05 PM
does anyone remember if centaurs in dark knight dungeon were 100% drop rate? trying to get some michael skill ups and would rather not do beoric with a light team lul

Assuming they're on a floor by themselves, probably. But I'm pretty sure you can get Centaurs from the green Mystic Dragon in technicals, which is probably a solid way to do it since you can chip away at it whenever you want.

Exactly where should I go from now, though? Since I am more or less set with going through the standard/technical dungeons, and my current 'goal', per se, is to get Cauchemar sooner or later to form a team that doesn't only rely on one element. That, and getting enough MP to get full latent awakening slots for my desired monsters.

You don't need to go anywhere specific, just keep clearing dungeons. As for latents, probably don't spend MP to get them. PreDra Infestation is a much more cost-effective way of getting them, although it is random. So unless you need an incredibly specific latent setup, which you shouldn't unless you're doing a specific endgame thing, probably just plan to collect them through PreDra Infestation with the help of co-op and maybe some stones for stamina. That way you'll actually gain MP rather than losing it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 11, 2016, 10:36:09 PM
I really wish Zeus Dios > Lifive > DQ Hera would stop showing up in a row just because "You lose"

Also my new favorite thing. Blue and Green Odin TAMADRA binding Gainaut or whoever then Ra TAMADRA lands his skill bind at 80% resist as a result
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 11, 2016, 11:02:51 PM
Assuming they're on a floor by themselves, probably. But I'm pretty sure you can get Centaurs from the green Mystic Dragon in technicals, which is probably a solid way to do it since you can chip away at it whenever you want.
in the technical griffons can spawn which padx doesnt list
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on September 12, 2016, 12:02:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/AzpUQoU.png)
I know someone gotta be those that is just barely below the border for crown but it still sucks to be one of them. :/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Edible on September 12, 2016, 04:55:33 PM
It's harder to do consistently than I expected, but there's something hilarious about matching one red cross and one light cross and see "324x" pop up on the screen.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 12, 2016, 05:04:28 PM
Yeah, fortunately for how powerful they are crosses are really tricky to do. I've gotten a little better at them in messing around with Sumire more, but it's still not extremely consistent. Just too easy to get flooded.

And for the record, you know that thing about cross boosts carrying forward on a sweep? They basically don't. ALL that has the potential to do is shield against pre-emptives. Which is extremely useful in rare scenarios granted, but crosses get broken by virtually every floor of every dungeon. The rare exceptions are masks, occasionally Chimeras, and... That's basically it?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Edible on September 12, 2016, 07:09:11 PM
Now that nearly everything in the game does a preemptive of some sort, nothing really carries forward anymore.  It really limits the value of certain abilities, I agree.

Thankfully (?) Kenshin doesn't have to worry about that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 13, 2016, 09:12:31 AM
New Badges in JP:


However, the requirements are things like having 100 +297 cards, or having multiple crowns from ranking. Crowns may only be the skyfall one, which is only useful in solo farming IMO. And who does that anymore with co-op.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 13, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
Wow, those are cool! But 100 hypermax cards is strictly, strictly whales only even with how easy hypermax is, so I guess it doesn't really matter.

Edit: Or I guess I should say "prohibitive" since I'm sure now somebody's going to point me to a non-IAP player who has 1000 hypermax cards but a completely unreasonable setup like multiple tablets and six hours of farming time a day or whatever. At any rate, that is unattainable for a vast majority of players.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 13, 2016, 10:26:08 AM
Not to mention that with the cost reductions you should be just start to use them at like rank 600 or so. Kind of silly that from getting by far the best +stat medal, RCV gets the worst buff when given the -cost buff. Or rather the least worthwhile one, given that all three stats get +10% anyways.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 13, 2016, 11:22:38 AM
Wow, those are cool! But 100 hypermax cards is strictly, strictly whales only even with how easy hypermax is, so I guess it doesn't really matter.

Edit: Or I guess I should say "prohibitive" since I'm sure now somebody's going to point me to a non-IAP player who has 1000 hypermax cards but a completely unreasonable setup like multiple tablets and six hours of farming time a day or whatever. At any rate, that is unattainable for a vast majority of players.

I could probably get it if I cared enough, but as it stands since there are no specifics, I currently do not. I only use a phone that can barely run the game and is starting to show battle scars.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 13, 2016, 12:03:37 PM
That's a pretty costly way to unlock a sixth latent slot. Feeding a specific +297 latent tama to a +297 monster? It feels like such a waste.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on September 13, 2016, 12:06:35 PM
New pantheon (finally!) of Buddhist gods.

More specifically the 5 gods of Wisdom.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/775639839190323200

Trailokya-vijaya-rāja

AS: Deals 20% of Enemies MAX HP.

LS: No skyfall. Fire HP/ATK x1.5. ATK/RCV x6 when reaching 8 combo.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/775640124528824320

Kuṇḍali Vidyārāja

AS: Change Fire/Heal to Water. +1 combo for 1 turn.

LS: No skyfall. Reduce damage taken (30%?). Increase damage when matching 2 water combo, up to 9x.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/775640289855668225

Acalanātha

AS: +1 combo for 1 turn. Haste 1.

LS: No skyfall. Wood 1.5x all stats. Matching each wood cross ATK x3.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/775640573160062976

Ucchuṣma

AS: Light ATK x2 for 3 turns. Haste 1 turn.

LS: Clearing 4 colors (3 colors + heal) increases damage, up to 6x. Clearing orbs deals 30x ATK to enemies.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/775640846678958081

Yamantaka

AS: Dark ATK x2 for 3 turns. Haste 1 turn.

LS: Increase damage when reaching 5 combo, up to 6x. Clearing orbs deals 30x ATK to enemies.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 13, 2016, 02:32:13 PM
That's a pretty costly way to unlock a sixth latent slot. Feeding a specific +297 latent tama to a +297 monster? It feels like such a waste.

it's only this prohibitively expensive because of the extreme end of the scale - people cheesing stuff with resists.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on September 13, 2016, 02:33:37 PM
it's only this prohibitively expensive because of the extreme end of the scale - people cheesing stuff with resists.

It's also a way for Japanese megawhales to use excess pluses.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 13, 2016, 02:53:46 PM
That's a pretty costly way to unlock a sixth latent slot. Feeding a specific +297 latent tama to a +297 monster? It feels like such a waste.

Make husbando incredibly marginally better at great expense? I'LL DO IT!

Honestly over time I would probably pay that to add an extra red resist to each of the members of Team Gabriel. +s are cheap.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 14, 2016, 06:41:53 AM
Ronove makes me uncomfortable.

(https://imgur.com/alMIwOA.jpg)

oh yeah just an ordinary Ragnarok board
ADQXQ was the only thing I had relevant for a no-dupes alt so oops
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 14, 2016, 01:11:32 PM
Oh PAD... PAD PAD PAD PAD PAD... I got terrible skillup rates during the entire 4x skillups event, but I just maxed Typhon with just 10 feeds on 2.5x skillups. Good things I cared about the stuff I was trying to max last week but don't care about Typhon.

Well, I might care about Typhon for inheritance if I can ever get my Another Justice team rolling, but to date I have yet to see or hear about a single other Another Justice user anywhere so I'm pretty sure that's never going to happen.

Ronove makes me uncomfortable.

(https://imgur.com/alMIwOA.jpg)

oh yeah just an ordinary Ragnarok board
ADQXQ was the only thing I had relevant for a no-dupes alt so oops

I have a hard time getting excited about just huge multipliers. Which is dumb to some degree because they definitely do have a place, but I look at that team and see 24.5k HP (although presumably it isn't all hypermax) and can't bring myself to really care. The only reason I'm interested in using Fenrir is hipsterism because people whine about him so much.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 14, 2016, 02:43:27 PM
My Ronove isn't even max level oops

As for the 24K HP, I should be able perpetually have his 35% damage reduction up so it's pushing more 50,000 effective HP on 144x

I don't like DQXQ so much and will probably take them out for Ganesha because ~cheese~

I like Fenrir more out of a stubborn "hipsterism" as well, but my gods he could use a change like "Spawn 6 Jammer orbs at random" instead of making dark orbs. Or, as I always like to joke, a second God Killer awakening :V

And, well, the level of Ronove damage I have can't OHKO Kali so :)
No delays, but everybody should make hearts and Rozuel does have a bind clear. I dunno. It might work out in the future.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 14, 2016, 03:20:56 PM
I like Fenrir more out of a stubborn "hipsterism" as well, but my gods he could use a change like "Spawn 6 Jammer orbs at random" instead of making dark orbs. Or, as I always like to joke, a second God Killer awakening :V

if fenrir is hipster i'm scared to ask what the shit I run is
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 14, 2016, 03:37:28 PM
Oh fuck I didn't realize Ronove had a shield. NVM, that's nuts.

I'd say there's a difference between "hipster" and "rogue" (as much as I hate that term). People at least think of leading with Fenrir because it's obviously at least sort of viable, but he's fun to use because of how much most people hate him. Using something nobody even considers as a lead isn't being a hipster necessarily, it may be something else entirely.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 14, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
if fenrir is hipster i'm scared to ask what the shit I run is

But people think the stuff you run is cute, right? There's always forgiveness for waifu potential.

People at least think of leading with Fenrir because it's obviously at least sort of viable, but he's fun to use because of how much most people hate him. Using something nobody even considers as a lead isn't being a hipster necessarily, it may be something else entirely.

I can tell you, it was really fun to 0-stone +297 Zeus with a shitty jammer lead that everybody sees as 15000 MP. :)
gungho plz add jammer crosses for damage reduction

yeah Ronove is pretty dumb. x12 for heart+ and four colors, but for the first time Rozuel has a really good role to fill. (Plus I'm trying to justify Ragnarok to myself)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 14, 2016, 03:58:15 PM
How does Annihilation Hera compare to Annihilation Zeus? I was thinking about that earlier. Do we know what her dungeon is like? Is it still ten floors and are they all that rough?

Edit: There is a +297 Hera, right? I was pretty sure there was, but maybe I made that up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 14, 2016, 04:25:57 PM
But people think the stuff you run is cute, right? There's always forgiveness for waifu potential.

I dunno what they think I run I just know they like it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 14, 2016, 05:25:29 PM
How does Annihilation Hera compare to Annihilation Zeus? I was thinking about that earlier. Do we know what her dungeon is like? Is it still ten floors and are they all that rough?

Edit: There is a +297 Hera, right? I was pretty sure there was, but maybe I made that up.
For one thing, you get to fight all the Awoken Grecoromans in a gauntlet just to reach her, plus IIRC she has something like a 7 or 8-to-hit combo shield up from the word go.

EDIT:  7-to hit; also has 46k preempt Holy Rite.  If you get her to nuke HP her "Gathering Energy" now also seals Awakenings for one turn.

Also the Mystic Knights all use their orb change skill as preempts so it'll screw with your board a lot which might be troublesome when dealing with the 20k+ hitting mini devils.

Better yet, here:  http://puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=2250
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 14, 2016, 05:27:46 PM
Are all of those things appropriately depowered relatively from how nasty Zeus is or is Hera a million times harder? I can handle just about anything as long as it doesn't hit quite as hard as he does, but if it's still 70k damage or locked mortal poison every turn+ten floors+7 combo shield then I can't imagine that it would be possible for anything I have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 14, 2016, 05:46:19 PM
Hera seems pretty tame admittedly side from lol preemptive

Doesn't even have a status shield so use your favorite delay and have at her with Fenrir(Ganesha sub) or something

All the awoken Grecos seem really weak for some reason.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 14, 2016, 07:33:59 PM
Good. That sounds potentially manageable. How big is the preemptive?

They're probably weak because having to fight a ton of them in a row at full strength would start to border on impossible.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 14, 2016, 07:41:44 PM
Good. That sounds potentially manageable. How big is the preemptive?
Just short of 46k damage.  No big deal for you, I'm sure?  = D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 14, 2016, 07:45:06 PM
No, but pretty much no preemptive could be for Gabriel. The question was just if it was going to be a problem for NepDra+Ryune (and the answer is still no). And theoretically even dual NepDras is fine with a 50% shield, but bringing a shield and a delay on a team with two of NepDra's sketchy-ass active on it seems to be problematic.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 14, 2016, 07:51:06 PM
Hera herself only has like 30 million HP as well so that's an EZ OHKO regardless

The scariest thing looks like Neptune who has more than a million defense and a million or so HP. But even his strongest move (2x rows of poison) doesn't deal more than 19000 so bring your favorite Mechanical Star and kill him that way I guess

Any Devil killers you have like Hanzo, Chiyome, Sherias will go a long way towards the Awoken rush, but Boss Hera is only God so plan accordingly.

Nepdra versus Hera sounds pretty sketchy admittedly because you do need to hit 7 combos
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 15, 2016, 12:05:45 AM
Oh dang, I missed the new super ultimates. Krishna is actually completely amazing now. And Vishnu... Does his Vishnu shit even harder I guess.

Nepdra versus Hera sounds pretty sketchy admittedly because you do need to hit 7 combos

You're not wrong. But given that the dungeon is 25 stamina I can at least afford to bash my head into it until it works. Gabriel is even sketchier since I would need to hit seven combos a turn every turn forever to gradually chip her.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 15, 2016, 12:42:02 AM
You're not wrong. But given that the dungeon is 25 stamina I can at least afford to bash my head into it until it works. Gabriel is even sketchier since I would need to hit seven combos a turn every turn forever to gradually chip her.

gabe would also need to be able to do more than 25% of hera's health in one turn while going over the combo shield because if you don't, she will bind all your awoken skills for one turn and then you die

have fun
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 15, 2016, 01:09:19 AM
gabe would also need to be able to do more than 25% of hera's health in one turn while going over the combo shield because if you don't, she will bind all your awoken skills for one turn and then you die

have fun

Well that would be easy since I pack gravity for basically explicitly that purpose, but that wouldn't really help with the "actually killing her" part. Plus if she's delayable that at least gives me a few changes to burst her. Which is more relevant for NepDra than Gabe, but it could matter.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 15, 2016, 10:20:35 AM
Using Ragnarok as a sub to fight Myr properly for the first time. Man, if only she had her God typing that she has in her second uvo. Dual Killer abuse ftw.

(https://imgur.com/LDCGPtJ.jpg)

Curious how the difference in Kaede's 39 and Ronove's 40 cost makes Kaede gain at least three more levels.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 15, 2016, 03:16:06 PM
Am I correct in seeing that Myr is a machine dungeon that doesn't drop Seraphis parts? Still hacking away at Deus Ex Machina for her part and haven't seen it yet, but I'm in no hurry.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 15, 2016, 03:18:13 PM
I dunno, i can't run Miru to see for myself. ;-;


Well, at least i can beat up some Number Dragons.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 15, 2016, 05:19:32 PM
Am I correct in seeing that Myr is a machine dungeon that doesn't drop Seraphis parts? Still hacking away at Deus Ex Machina for her part and haven't seen it yet, but I'm in no hurry.

if it doesn't list it on pdx it probably doesn't drop any

I dunno, i can't run Miru to see for myself. ;-;

the drop rate is less than 2% so i highly doubt being able to run it means anything either for the sake of confirmation lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on September 16, 2016, 08:16:45 AM
Hey guys remember when Juggler was the most broken thing ever?

Let me introduce you to his friend:

Flintlock (R/L)
Finger x3, S+, Sx
3820/1905/103
Active: +1 combo for 2 turns (8cd)
Leader skill: Combos with 4 or less orbs cannot be cleared. HP and ATK x2. 3 colors (2 colors+heart) for ATK x9.

4/324/1
dafuq
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 16, 2016, 08:47:37 AM
So match 3 combos with 5 orbs each for huge damage huh ? And get 4x HP as a bonus.

Fire's secret weapon for the comeback ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 16, 2016, 10:16:41 AM
Just you wait, next time around we'll be seeing a dark popcorn+hearts with an even higher multiplier.
Yes I said popcorn. Yes I know you'd be forced to match 5 anyways :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 16, 2016, 10:23:07 AM
Just you wait, next time around we'll be seeing a dark popcorn+hearts with an even higher multiplier.
Yes I said popcorn. Yes I know you'd be forced to match 5 anyways :V

It's that Sumire's entire deal ? So you basically want a Dark Sumire ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 16, 2016, 10:39:15 AM
Before you know it you'll see leader skills that give hastes for doing specific matches

(https://imgur.com/uLrezTN.jpg)

I'm glad that my Ronove and Ragnarok don't have any issues earning their skillups, but I'm still upset how ~trivial~ this was...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 16, 2016, 11:13:50 AM
It's that Sumire's entire deal ? So you basically want a Dark Sumire ?
I forgot that was her thiiiiiing
To think I've been working on a team for her, what a shame
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 16, 2016, 11:32:09 AM
I forgot that was her thiiiiiing
To think I've been working on a team for her, what a shame

Give her to me, you don't deserve her. e.e

But her multiplier isn't all that much, albeit still good, 5x for a popcorn + 1.5x and 50% damage cut from the heart cross, for a 7.5x total, it's easier to deal with her than with Kaede. Although she is pretty picky with her boards, can't have too many or too few of either heal orbs or water orbs, which is why Commander was considering taking a heartbreaker.

On another note, i just noticed that if Unicorn Rider got a UEvo, it would probably make her an excellent sub for Miru, since her AS creates exactly 5 hearts on a low CD without getting rid of Light Orbs IIRC, she has the same "duality" as Miru, since she also has both Row Awakenings and TPAs, and other useful ones like SBR, Skill boost and even a Coop Awakening.

What do you think ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 16, 2016, 12:16:57 PM
Before you know it you'll see leader skills that give hastes for doing specific matches

(https://imgur.com/uLrezTN.jpg)

I'm glad that my Ronove and Ragnarok don't have any issues earning their skillups, but I'm still upset how ~trivial~ this was...

nothing in the game is challenging if you use the meta leads, yeah

edit: boop

(http://i.imgur.com/QVXF8Yu.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on September 16, 2016, 01:26:10 PM
Fire's secret weapon for the comeback ?

not really, kinnikuman is still better because you also have x4 RCV

sure you're only x100 instead of x324, but you're mono-color and can also match TPAs =v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 16, 2016, 03:07:55 PM
So what's up with the IRC? It still seems like it's down for me but that might just be my computer..?

Want to co-op PreDras, so looking for a way to coordinate that if possible. Mine are at 6PM but earlier would be preferabler because theoretically I should be busy then.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 16, 2016, 03:13:09 PM
not really, kinnikuman is still better because you also have x4 RCV

sure you're only x100 instead of x324, but you're mono-color and can also match TPAs =v

True that, but what is the LS for Kinnikuman ? Because Flintlock's seems quite easy to trigger compared to others lying around.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 16, 2016, 04:05:03 PM
So what's up with the IRC? It still seems like it's down for me but that might just be my computer..?

Want to co-op PreDras, so looking for a way to coordinate that if possible. Mine are at 6PM but earlier would be preferabler because theoretically I should be busy then.

it's still up for me, I have no idea what's going on there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 16, 2016, 04:27:49 PM
it's still up for me, I have no idea what's going on there.

Huh. I'm getting "This site can't be reached" with "ERR_CONTENT_DECODING_FAILED" consistently and have been for probably a week or so. Guess it's on me. I'll look into it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on September 16, 2016, 04:41:26 PM
re: irc

https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19864.msg1284177.html#new

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 16, 2016, 06:50:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/wYs1FuL.png)

About time I got this guy.

Just to become food but still.

Bonus:

(http://i.imgur.com/lQRwWui.png)

Thank you Beyzul for the gift.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 16, 2016, 07:00:07 PM
What is that icon on the screen for ? The Yukari? one.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 16, 2016, 07:08:29 PM
What is that icon on the screen for ? The Yukari? one.
FB messenger bubble.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 16, 2016, 10:11:09 PM
re: irc

https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19864.msg1284177.html#new

I see? What does that mean? That seems to indicate it's down, but Chirei said it still worked for him..?

I tried logging on with three different devices and all of them failed, so I don't know what's up. At any rate, my PreDras are up now if anyone wants to run them with me. Just let me know and I'll make a room.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 16, 2016, 10:32:45 PM
I see? What does that mean? That seems to indicate it's down, but Chirei said it still worked for him..?

That means that the only thing that's having trouble is the webchat. If you're using an IRC client, you should have no issue logging in.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 16, 2016, 10:36:34 PM
That means that the only thing that's having trouble is the webchat. If you're using an IRC client, you should have no issue logging in.

Oh okay. This is not familiar software to me so if that was stated it probably went over my head. Thanks.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 17, 2016, 12:59:06 AM
Whoah, is the new Thief the first card we've seen that boosts rank exp? Or has JP had that ability?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 17, 2016, 03:35:14 AM
Super uvo Ganesha does the same as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on September 17, 2016, 04:08:26 AM
And FFCD continues the trend of being the leader of the power creep parade. Dear god.

"So what can we do to make the power creep even more stupid?"
"idk man just make a card that can get a super easy 18x"
"You know that they're going to complain it's not strong enough."
"Such is life."

seriously what the fuck even is this game anymore

324x for something so fucking simple is just idiotic

but hey

at least juggler isn't technically broken anymore lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 17, 2016, 08:07:50 AM
"idk man just make a card that can get a super easy 18x"
324x for something so fucking simple is just idiotic

The multiplier probably doesn't need to be that high, but it's by no means easy. Try matching 3 5-lines of three different elements every turn. You can't do it consistently at all.

Fullboards like Leilan are still programmed to only work with the base case of 3-match, so if any of the three colors spawn with less than 5, and due to Murphy's Law they will most of the time, you are instantly hosed.

EDIT: Also you aren't able to heal unless you match 5+.

EDIT EDIT: I have just realized that there exists an instant lose condition for these kinds of leads:

(http://i.imgur.com/V5MTEN3.png)

no orbchange actives up, enemy doesn't change orbs when it attacks

gg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 17, 2016, 02:50:25 PM
And leave it to GungHo to actually make that board into a preempt.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: hyorinryu on September 17, 2016, 05:27:30 PM
6 rolls and not a single Pantheon god. Got some people I've been looking for though, namely Micheal. Btw, is the Irc okay, I've been using the link in the sticky, and it doesn't seem to work.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 17, 2016, 06:29:29 PM
IRC desktop/mobile clients work, but webchat does not.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 17, 2016, 07:07:17 PM
Well, as of now webchat was revamped so it should work fine, just with a new interface.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 18, 2016, 01:01:38 AM
Game is rigged I got 2 more tsubakis giving me 4 total. Guess I'll wait around for her skill up dungeon comes and make a tsubaki system for the lul
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 18, 2016, 02:02:45 AM
Guuuuh farming Star Justice is killing me... I can theoretically do eight more runs today... That's so many... I've learned how to shave bits and pieces off here and there, but it still takes ~10 minutes a run. Still tooooons of skillups to go though. I'm considering committing Bubpiis since hopefully I can just max Blodin out of the Batman dungeon, but I want to save some for Awoken UmiYama too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 18, 2016, 02:04:41 AM
It's also suffering, but if you have things to level perhaps some alt farming could be of assistance?  At least then you'r getting more than just a bunch of Mystic Knights and a robot dude who's being a jerk.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 18, 2016, 02:10:04 AM
I think that would still take considerably longer than this all things considered. If I ever had time I would probably farm for Bubpiis in alts between other things, but I'm always busy in PAD lately. Alts would be nice especially since I also need Famiel skillups, but I just can't justify taking many days to get a single Another Justice skillup when I can get 3-4 in a day from his dungeon. Although it takes so many that I may end up doing both at some point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 18, 2016, 03:40:54 PM
Made off very well from yesterday's farm fest. Got four skillups despite losing a handful of runs to messing around with weird teams to try to save time. That leaves five to go, which makes finishing it with Bubpiis really tempting. But since this team really wants a friend Another Justice which doesn't seem like it's ever going to happen at this point I probably shouldn't be too hasty.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 18, 2016, 04:32:37 PM
(http://imgur.com/95alZDb.png)
I'm getting there, slowly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 19, 2016, 01:53:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CWwPzW0.jpg)

Should've gone to work a while ago but I was busy killing Kali, her dumb husband, and their...  Puppeteer friend? Neighbor? I guess I don't know why Courage was there, but her too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on September 19, 2016, 02:02:16 PM

324x for something so fucking simple is just idiotic


3-attribute match but you can only match 5+ orbs at once is actually harder than it seems, also Flintlock doesn't have the x4 RCV OPness that Kinnikuman and Akuma Shogun possess, so he gets fucking wrecked hard by gravities. Also healing up in and of itself will be an ordeal without changers such as Yamato Takeru or Sanada. Honestly, Flintlock's not really that great, x324 sounds awesome on paper but there is such a thing as overkill at this point in time. I would rather do 4/100/4 than 4/324/1.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 19, 2016, 05:30:00 PM
So um, maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I'm pretty sure this is a no recovery dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 19, 2016, 05:36:15 PM
Could have just been an enemy orbchange attack, there are those too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 19, 2016, 05:39:36 PM
Yeah, Awilda's preempt turns one color into hearts. Can do it again thought the fight, too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 19, 2016, 06:55:33 PM
Interesting. I wonder why it was enhanced, then...
Oh well, what's done is done.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 19, 2016, 07:10:40 PM
Because she orbchanged an enhanced orb into it I have to assume.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 19, 2016, 07:16:21 PM
Enhancing will remain even after it was orbchanged, so if you use like, an heart enhance AS, and then use a heartbreaker AS, it will remain enhanced and give you more damage basically.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 19, 2016, 10:20:43 PM
Well yes, I realize that, I was just wondering because I don't have enhances for anything other than light. I have Heal enhances, but those don't apply in that dungeon. Looking at the board, it would have to have converted wood to heal. And I have no wood OE. Maybe something else changed Light to Wood? I dunno.

---------------

Anyways. Just noticed that the current JP update makes it more likely to find people with the same lead as you.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 21, 2016, 04:06:53 AM
Well, I just ran out of stamina, which means I just concluded my fourth day of farming Indigo nonstop trying to skill up Alfecca. And he's not skillmax yet. Needing five skillups off of a 66% drop rate material.

Fuk u PAD.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 21, 2016, 11:24:03 AM
So for anyone wondering about the IRC, the link seems to work again, just hosted on a different address.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on September 21, 2016, 12:13:10 PM
New Descend is music-themed again. Mion Descended.

BGM is using Marasy's piano arrangement of Normal Dungeon themes
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on September 21, 2016, 01:40:25 PM
marasy's makin' it big i see
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 21, 2016, 02:49:08 PM
gee i wonder what that descend on the friday stream will be

(http://i.imgur.com/V1BIVVt.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 22, 2016, 01:00:32 AM
Wow floor9 is annoying with all the resolve failed like 3 times already.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 22, 2016, 04:13:23 PM
Any chance anybody wants to co-op farm Jormungandr later for any reason? I need a bunch of skillups on him for Fenrir, but he drops pretty decent +eggs as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 22, 2016, 05:35:21 PM
Any chance anybody wants to co-op farm Jormungandr later for any reason? I need a bunch of skillups on him for Fenrir, but he drops pretty decent +eggs as well.

Two birds with one stone, when ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 22, 2016, 05:40:03 PM
Two birds with one stone, when ?

Later. Probably in the 7-10 PM EST zone if you're available.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 22, 2016, 05:47:11 PM
So 8-10 PM for me, i think i will be available, just keep in mind i have a new phone, so i am still getting used to it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 23, 2016, 08:46:41 AM
@Commander: Sorry, i overslept and missed it, i hope you found someone else.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 23, 2016, 03:34:21 PM
It happens I guess. I didn't end up partnering with anyone else because it was too late at night for me to commit by the time I was sure you weren't going to show up, but that's partly my fault for giving such a large range of times.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 23, 2016, 08:34:22 PM
hey ccool is gabe worth 50 stones
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 23, 2016, 09:40:40 PM
It's ccool, he'd probably say Gabe is worth 250, heh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 23, 2016, 10:07:55 PM
hey ccool is gabe worth 50 stones

Depends a bit on what else you have. If you intend to use him as a sub and already have Andromedumb, which I believe you do, prooobably not unless you need him for a team where her active breaks your activation or something. If you intend to use him as a lead you'd better make it 50 stones and 250k MP because he really needs Charite to be truly endgame-ready, but in that case probably.

If you're asking what I personally would pay for a second Gabriel, it's a lot.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 23, 2016, 10:18:56 PM
Depends a bit on what else you have. If you intend to use him as a sub and already have Andromedumb, which I believe you do, prooobably not unless you need him for a team where her active breaks your activation or something. If you intend to use him as a lead you'd better make it 50 stones and 250k MP because he really needs Charite to be truly endgame-ready, but in that case probably.

I didn't have him, so i'm pretty much rounding out blue at this point.

If you're asking what I personally would pay for a second Gabriel, it's a lot.

50 stones? 500? 65535?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 23, 2016, 10:27:24 PM
I didn't have him, so i'm pretty much rounding out blue at this point.

In that case I'd say a lot of it depends on if there's a lead you like a lot who can't make use of Garbage Waifu. If there isn't and you don't plan to lead with him then you're probably fine. In a vacuum I'd say Andromeda's higher HP is prooobably more valuable to fill your orbchange-that-makes-enhanced-hearts slot for an average team.

50 stones? 500? 65535?

If Gungho approached me right now and said they would comp me a Gabriel I would probably pay as much as 100 or so stones for one. Just because husbando is not perfect without doubling up on his own skill and that bothers me, not necessarily because it's THAT valuable. I mean, it is valuable for a stall team to be as tamper-proof as possible, but that's a fairly small add.

And if they were like "Nope, 100 stones not enough, give 150" I probably would...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 24, 2016, 12:38:49 AM
Wow looking at awoken kushinada her multipliers are actually great. Anyone got any ideas on what kind of team you could run?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on September 24, 2016, 01:25:14 AM
Wow looking at awoken kushinada her multipliers are actually great. Anyone got any ideas on what kind of team you could run?

vishnu, meimei, sylvie, stuff like that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 24, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
You are one thousand years too early to face me with that mockery. Let me show you REAL power.

(http://i.imgur.com/PnATy55.png)

CROSS ON!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/9BoUIcf.png)

11 COMBOS!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/8RXq3am.png) (http://i.imgur.com/r2lyPdC.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 24, 2016, 07:22:07 PM
How hard (roughly) is X? Legend was nearly the easiest Descend I have ever done, so I assume X wouldn't be much harder than that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 24, 2016, 08:16:42 PM
It's very easy.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 24, 2016, 08:23:18 PM
Cool cool. I'll do that and then have to wait for Ana so I can get my Typhon Armor.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 26, 2016, 04:04:13 PM
Ooh, Seraphis up for several days. I'm looking to farm him a bit if anyone else is interested in co-op.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 27, 2016, 03:32:41 AM
I would, but my Gabe team is undeveloped, I have no NepDra, and I literally can't clear it with any of my other teams excepting maybe some niche Typhon team or Australis team (ignore the fact that I run Pollux, yet another niche team).[/whine]

http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1709
So um. How is this obtained?

Nevermind I just did my research.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 27, 2016, 11:58:35 AM
Does Mion seem legit really really good to anyone else? As much as it's kind of an obvious lame strategy she seems great at the whole resist tank setup with Courage. Very solid multiplier, minimal sub restrictions, and a huge resistance value seem good, she has non-terrible HP, and even excellent awakenings for that role. Seems like yet another team that more or less just outclasses Archangels. 
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on September 27, 2016, 12:00:03 PM
Does Mion seem legit really really good to anyone else? As much as it's kind of an obvious lame strategy she seems great at the whole resist tank setup with Courage. Very solid multiplier, minimal sub restrictions, and a huge resistance value seem good, she has non-terrible HP, and even excellent awakenings for that role. Seems like yet another team that more or less just outclasses Archangels.

she's just Waifu Nepdra with lower multiplier but super tanky versus Water/Wood.

Also an arguably better active but it depends on how powerful her Poison is
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 27, 2016, 12:23:56 PM
Yeah, she's basically just a slightly worse mashup of both of my main teams together. She doesn't get to use her puppeteer as a damage enhance as well since she has to change enemies to a color she isn't super effective against unlike Gabriel, and she doesn't spike as hard as NepDra, but being a massive tank that can still basically one-shot everything is plenty good enough.

Her main weaknesses as I see it are an active deficit (between Pure and two poisons you only get three actives to both stall and burst with, which is not a lot) and reliance on Pure to tank meaning that if she ends up having to rush she could be in trouble. But of course there will be plenty of dungeons where you don't need to bring Pure at all and can just burst until you reach a floor to stall on.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 28, 2016, 04:39:38 PM
So now that it's been out for a while can we talk about how skill inheritance has effected the game?

There was a time when I assumed I would be putting extra skills on everything, but now I'm looking for excuses not to put extra skills on things for the most part. With the exception of duplicate skills to dodge cooldown reduction or some niche cases of strictly better skills (like putting Force on Awoken Orochi) it's more of an annoyance than a help most of the time. Sometimes the extra flexibility is worth the annoyance, but other times it's just an annoying thing to keep track of.

There's no question that it helps some teams squeeze in the extra utility active they need, fixes the crappy actives of some cards (Awoken Shiva) and gives some cards interesting new roles (like cleric Awoken Ra), but the number of things that I actually want skills inherited onto is fairly small. Which is good, that's interesting game design. It's a tool and not a necessity and I like that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on September 28, 2016, 08:26:58 PM
I use skills so aggressively that I have yet, to this day, to activate an inherited skill.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 28, 2016, 08:33:49 PM
So now that it's been out for a while can we talk about how skill inheritance has effected the game?

I have seen three cases for this. I currently only use 1 and 2.

1) Is the skill a strictly better version or even the same skill? (Squall on Femme) Do you not use the former card? The choice here is very easy if both are "Yes." This is most of my inherits and an application that you cannot lose at even if you are an idiot or casual player.

2) Is there some dungeon that is so absurdly stupid that you are willing to overwrite a skill of some existing party member just to have a chance as well as spend 2m coins? Then you probably need to inherit, and where most of the creativity with this system exists.

3) This is probably a subset of 2). You are using some (probably cookie cutter) inherit spam farm build with ALB or something. This is sadly, the dominant case in the playerbase as a whole.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on September 28, 2016, 09:41:25 PM
I wonder if I'd use LMeta again somewhere if I had Light Dragon Knight...?  Speaking of strictly better actives I mean.

Reminds me I need to figure out a team comp that will let me use the Sadal/W.Dragon Knight combo I put together a while back, but that mostly comes down to somehow replacing DMeta for Karin which is really hard for me to do.

I might be able to consider it if I hyper my shiny new Carat though since apparently she is B/D...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 29, 2016, 01:46:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ThswkXv.jpg)

Yaaay!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 29, 2016, 02:12:07 AM
now when are you gonna evolve Gainaut? :)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 29, 2016, 02:28:19 AM
Well, I need three red fruits, so I can get those tomorrow, then I just need to find a Volcano Dragon and collect some samurai. Theoretically fairly soon, depends on when Gran pops up next I guess.

Actually are there good rates on the 'Lil dragons in alts? Seems like there would be.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 29, 2016, 12:56:13 PM
So some notable things apparently
LZL is now the third unit (others being Godin and Godindora) that can clear Awakening Binds, as well as clearing normal binds and healing about 20,186 HP at +99 RCV (23720 at 5 RCV latents).
Lumiel and Famiel deal true damage to all enemies instead of a single target.

Archangels v2 subs for life.

E: Twin uvos for Kanna. The sub version gets 4 TPAs and 2 Bind Resist so here i am looking at my Fenrir team with a replaceable Amaterasu
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 29, 2016, 06:38:27 PM
Does anyone have any Scheat friends on their friends lists? I kind of like the idea of pairing her with Another Justice now. Her leader skill is a strict downgrade, but her monstrous ass and more stackable leader skill are really appealing and may make up for the slight modifier deficit. I can even bring Alrescha to make up for the missing lock resists.

I know she's also not a common lead at all, but I've at least seen SOME of them at some point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on September 29, 2016, 09:53:50 PM
Lol chaore look it's revo Shiva

I like how Ishtar is such a good anti-predra strat that's free.

Luka and kosuke have failed us. Tsubaki gets the buff chance. And as if that's not enough, scheat loses by a large margin to Light Kanna for highest tpa atk. W E L P
Time to wait for scheat ult I guess.

Ilm is female.

Greek 1.0 revo arts are lazy while indian 1.0 revo arts I like. Small enough changes to fix some complaints the old pic had (bye helmet hair ) while not being lazy recolorings yet not a complete remake so that they aren't too much stress on the illustrators.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on September 29, 2016, 10:22:06 PM
Lol chaore look it's revo Shiva

compare the massive disparity in numbers between him and the waifus for what i think about not just going to nobunaga hype now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 29, 2016, 11:00:15 PM
Lol chaore look it's revo Shiva
And as if that's not enough, scheat loses by a large margin to Light Kanna for highest tpa atk. W E L P
Time to wait for scheat ult I guess.

  :(

I'm used to my shit being dumped all over by the good colors at this point. Point in evidence, Nobunaga vs. NepDra. At least Scheat's active is still amazing...? Of course, the black equivalent of that active is on a card that's just a million times better, but WHATEVER.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on September 29, 2016, 11:18:22 PM
>yet another kali and sakuya

the laughs never end


Revo Awokens are interesting. Kinda wish the art was more than just a lazy palette swap though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on September 30, 2016, 02:15:55 AM
  :(

I'm used to my shit being dumped all over by the good colors at this point. Point in evidence, Nobunaga vs. NepDra. At least Scheat's active is still amazing...? Of course, the black equivalent of that active is on a card that's just a million times better, but WHATEVER.

nepdras getting an ulti for a reason really

that would never be a fair comparison, like me trying to compare shivadra to literally anything at this point
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on September 30, 2016, 02:26:14 AM
nepdras getting an ulti for a reason really

that would never be a fair comparison, like me trying to compare shivadra to literally anything at this point

There isn't (to my knowledge) a card that's just ShivaDra but literally just strictly better in almost every way though. He's disappointing, but it's in a more systemic sense. Which I will grant is probably a worse problem overall, but it doesn't change the fact that the design for Nobunaga is just "Let's take Neptune Dragon but make all of his things better and make him black".

So yes, your crappy color is fucked too. Probably much worse than mine. Doesn't mean I'm not pissed they buffed the thing that was already a way better version of my lead while leaving my thing alone. Yes, he will get an ultimate, which is great (well sort of, since getting the materials for it might be a legitimate problem), but who's getting that ultimate first on their cards that are already better? The good colors? Of course the good colors are getting theirs first.

ShivaDra was the first MP dragon to come out, but not the first OR second to get an ultimate. Or probably the third since there isn't even a red Mecha-Ur or whatever yet. Lovely.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on September 30, 2016, 05:05:20 AM
Of course, the black equivalent of that active is on a card that's just a million times better, but WHATEVER.

dont forget she also has a beach version to make scheat even more useless
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on September 30, 2016, 05:45:43 AM
ShivaDra was the first MP dragon to come out, but not the first OR second to get an ultimate. Or probably the third since there isn't even a red Mecha-Ur or whatever yet. Lovely.

man i'd be unsurprised if he was last even, there's not a lot to do with him



compared to nepdra who can just become like blue nobunaga or something :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 30, 2016, 10:33:03 AM
so here I am trying to rush another stone to pull Indra

(https://imgur.com/FYxMbyI.jpg)

Hera +297 doesn't give a stone.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 30, 2016, 10:50:04 AM
Oh boy, and here I got a dupe indra!
That and light dog. I wonder how do both synergize together.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 30, 2016, 11:06:14 AM
Light Dog is weird
He's like ADQXQ but he uses jammers to proc and also has a RCV multiplier because why not?

Unlike Dark Dog he can make massive amounts of jammers reliably. Combine with the likes of Ilm and have some shenanigans.
I suppose subs for Light Dog would be like. Baal, Ilm, Awoken Thor, Kuma. Maybe Saria. Just put all your rows together and it'll be good.

But I will never know because 6* GFE.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on September 30, 2016, 01:05:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZGV9IBpl.png)
I didn't choose the dog life. The dog life chose me.
(I would have picked bride escha instead of nordis here but she unmakes hearts and that's no good, sadly)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 30, 2016, 01:22:08 PM
(https://imgur.com/PqcIZR8.jpg)

I believe in your dog, as my dogs have believed in me.

Edit: recently I learned that Fenrir has something of a fanbase (that isn't me???)? I was weirded out by this but he's got his own leader guide on Reddit and everything
It's so weird knowing that maybe dozens of us exist, like Team Instinct members.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on September 30, 2016, 03:32:38 PM
What about Mecha Catte ? Is she alone ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 30, 2016, 04:13:58 PM
A lot of people in Naughty Dog's community think that Denebola is a great sub because of her good recovery, ability to make jammers quickly, and high standalone damage due to 2 TPAs
Whether or not Mecha Catte is valued on her own? Heck if I know :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on September 30, 2016, 11:54:11 PM
So... what do I do with Awoken I&I? She seems to work off rows, but is there anything else to her? Is she even good as a lead anymore?

Well. "Good" in more of a "decent" way.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 01, 2016, 12:02:53 AM
They're at least "consistently clear Arena" good, maybe better. Go rows, pair with Ryune friend.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on October 01, 2016, 10:25:15 AM
  :(

I'm used to my shit being dumped all over by the good colors at this point. Point in evidence, Nobunaga vs. NepDra. At least Scheat's active is still amazing...? Of course, the black equivalent of that active is on a card that's just a million times better, but WHATEVER.

Red still languishes and clings to the hope of Kinnikuman, who isn't even guaranteed to be in NA barring the star power of Ultimate Muscle. People prefer A.LB over A.Cao Cao, and his biggest weapon is still JP only (Rathalos).

Blue on the other hand has BMyr, REVO Lakshmi, Sarasvati, and a whole slew of other useful blue cards, not to mention Blue also has the distinction of having Whaledor (or Verdor, if you prefer the totally incorrect translation on PDX) who isn't too bad himself for being a 5 SB stick. Red has definitely gotten fucked harder than Blue.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 01, 2016, 12:17:10 PM
Blue on the other hand has BMyr, REVO Lakshmi, Sarasvati, and a whole slew of other useful blue cards, not to mention Blue also has the distinction of having Whaledor (or Verdor, if you prefer the totally incorrect translation on PDX) who isn't too bad himself for being a 5 SB stick.

This is basically incidental, but I don't own a single one of those things. Ouch.

Red has definitely gotten fucked harder than Blue.

Yeah, not disagreed and I said as much myself several times at this point, but that's not my premise. I didn't say "red is better than blue", I said "blue is astronomically worse than black (and white)". Or somewhat more specifically than that, "I'm pissed at Gungho for shitting all over Neptune Dragon".

Beyond that I think you're extrapolating claims I'm not making or something. Unless "Red is the worst color" is supposed to be a refutation to "Neptune Dragon was handled unfairly" in which case I guess I just don't understand the argument.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 01, 2016, 01:11:07 PM
On another note, I've been noticing recently that closing PAD (seemingly related to closing the app entirely, but not sure) has been resulting in enemies getting two turns in a row sometimes. Has anyone else observed this? I've only noticed it recently but maybe it's been this way for a while and everyone knew it but me.

Last Friday I left a Twinlits run alone for a few hours. I was on the second floor, and when I reopened the app later I took a hit and died instantly the second the game loaded. This morning Neptune got two turns in a row against me in +297 Hera and ended up with a row and a column of hearts and poison.

Sound familiar to anyone else? Or am I just misunderstanding the problem and something different is happening?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 01, 2016, 04:29:42 PM
easy 0-stone

(http://i.imgur.com/ZYDHl15.png) (http://i.imgur.com/x7ayMxC.png) (http://i.imgur.com/9fqazg6.png) (http://i.imgur.com/ByJ7wkV.png) (http://i.imgur.com/gGJhujQ.png)

On another note, I've been noticing recently that closing PAD (seemingly related to closing the app entirely, but not sure) has been resulting in enemies getting two turns in a row sometimes. Has anyone else observed this? I've only noticed it recently but maybe it's been this way for a while and everyone knew it but me.

Last Friday I left a Twinlits run alone for a few hours. I was on the second floor, and when I reopened the app later I took a hit and died instantly the second the game loaded. This morning Neptune got two turns in a row against me in +297 Hera and ended up with a row and a column of hearts and poison.

Sound familiar to anyone else? Or am I just misunderstanding the problem and something different is happening?

I have no idea what's going on here, PAD has been known for some incredibly odd glitches. I would just try not to close the app mid-dungeon, or at least bring up the pause menu before you close it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 01, 2016, 07:32:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Lk8Z1Ce.jpg)

Well shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on October 02, 2016, 02:15:56 AM
Beyond that I think you're extrapolating claims I'm not making or something. Unless "Red is the worst color" is supposed to be a refutation to "Neptune Dragon was handled unfairly" in which case I guess I just don't understand the argument.

i just think you should still be grateful blue is very much still a viable colour unlike Red
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 02, 2016, 03:10:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/jHQGj3r.jpg)

There we go. Zero-stoned. Much easier than the last one.

i just think you should still be grateful blue is very much still a viable colour unlike Red

Okay, yes. AGAIN, I don't disagree about red. Pardon me, but I'm really struggling to not read this as an out-of-hand dismissal of balance complaints that aren't reeeally related. Is that how you intended me to read it? "Red is the worst color therefore it I shouldn't be allowed to be bothered by the fact that Nobunaga is just a much better rarer Neptune Dragon and yet he got buffed while NepDra didn't?"

I'm not sure what you think I'm asking for here, but to be clear, I would like Gungho to stop designing their colors in such an imbalanced fashion, with the related issue that I'm unhappy with their occasional decision to make chases that are just upgraded versions of existing cards rather than distinct entities.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 03, 2016, 03:23:44 PM
Hmm, I've been getting killed by that "enemy gets two turns" bug fairly often. Keep forgetting to pause when I close the app. It's especially devastating for Sumire since the first hit breaks her shield.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on October 03, 2016, 03:25:33 PM
Weird, i don't have that happening to me, when did that start happening ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 03, 2016, 03:48:23 PM
A week ago last Friday was the first time I noticed it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 04, 2016, 11:54:56 AM
"Fenrir teams have garbage recovery"

(https://imgur.com/39jhGU4.jpg)

then use subs with good recovery

Still hate Hanuman though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on October 05, 2016, 06:33:05 AM
Hey guys, the revo Greeks 1.0 are pretty nice.

Solo'd the current lv10 on JP which is
Sherospada -> Randomly one of the three Machinas -> Machine Zeus

Stalled 16 turns of sherospada for Force (inherited on Elize)
Force on Machina because dark absorb.
Took me forever to came up with a 6-6-3-3 7c board for Machine Zeus + Kushinada active to break the combo shield but I did it. The crazy damage is from Cameo inherit.
My Ceres is only lv23 lol, stupid 16m exp table...

(http://i.imgur.com/XbH1XXq.png)(http://i.imgur.com/qQaHkbY.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on October 06, 2016, 02:34:20 PM
Okay, yes. AGAIN, I don't disagree about red. Pardon me, but I'm really struggling to not read this as an out-of-hand dismissal of balance complaints that aren't reeeally related. Is that how you intended me to read it? "Red is the worst color therefore it I shouldn't be allowed to be bothered by the fact that Nobunaga is just a much better rarer Neptune Dragon and yet he got buffed while NepDra didn't?"

I'm not sure what you think I'm asking for here, but to be clear, I would like Gungho to stop designing their colors in such an imbalanced fashion, with the related issue that I'm unhappy with their occasional decision to make chases that are just upgraded versions of existing cards rather than distinct entities.

You said it yourself that you acknowledge Nepdra is getting a UUVO anyways, they're getting around to addressing that complaint about Nobunaga, who I reiterate is far squishier than Neptune Dragon, so I don't know how that makes him strictly better lol

I do admit that I'm a bit biased against people who swear only by a single color though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 06, 2016, 03:49:24 PM
I'm not sure I ever used the term strictly better, bit if I did it was facetious. Better, yes, definitely, but strictly better is obviously almost impossible to apply in PAD. Especially across colors.

As for squishiness, Nobunaga is in a color that actually gets shields, and his much better active means he csn afford utility slots much more easily than Neptune Dragon.

The ultimate is definitely a thing, obviously. I acknowledge that I'm being very impatient, but please do bear in mind that the materials for that form, much less the form itself, don't even exist in JP yet. So it's going to be a long, looong time before we see it here. If you think that impatience is unreasonable then fair enough, but from my perspective this new form is pretty abstract at this point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 08, 2016, 10:05:33 PM
Guuuuuh...

Farmed Alt Creek Of Nelius all day for the Famiel skillups. Fed a batch, nothing. Fed a batch, nothing. Looked at the last batch... They need to be evolved. FUCK.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 08, 2016, 10:11:56 PM
The boss drops are evolved, the mid-stage ones are not.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 08, 2016, 10:27:50 PM
Yeah, I thought that seemed a bit too easy. But I also thought they had stopped making skillup materials that needed evolving. And wasn't accounting for the Keepers. Whoops.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 08, 2016, 10:45:31 PM
Yeah, I thought that seemed a bit too easy. But I also thought they had stopped making skillup materials that needed evolving. And wasn't accounting for the Keepers. Whoops.
Hahaha, you fool, that's only for the old stuff!  GH will never learn that evolving skillups should not exist because screw you and everyone else.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 09, 2016, 06:26:26 PM
Is 9 rows decent for an AI&I team?[attach=1]
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 09, 2016, 06:47:22 PM
Yes. Nine rows is pretty decent for any kind of team. Pair that up with a Ryune and you should be in business (although I'm a little dubious of Navi as a sub on a team that already has a heartmaker despite her amazing awakenings).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 09, 2016, 08:11:52 PM
Is 9 rows decent for an AI&I team?[attach=1]

Having nine rows is decent.

Having only one card on the entire team that makes water orbs is not.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 09, 2016, 08:26:14 PM
Is 9 rows decent for an AI&I team?[attach=1]
To add to people's opinions, I'd say that Sakuya's presence is also kinda sketchy since she has at best two TPAs in terms of offensive awakenings so at best she's a stat stick with a gravity?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 09, 2016, 08:35:58 PM
To add to people's opinions, I'd say that Sakuya's presence is also kinda sketchy since she has at best two TPAs in terms of offensive awakenings so at best she's a stat stick with a gravity?

You hit the nail on the head. I don't have too many water monsters overall, so I'm just dumping in stuff with rows and decent stats after that. Here's the rest of my water stuff:
[attach=1]

Oops. Forgot I had Sarasvati. That aside, I don't have a ton to work with anyways.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 09, 2016, 08:38:40 PM
Oh is that Sakuya? I didn't know who I thought she was but I didn't assume she was Sakuya. Yeah, don't run her. Especially if you have Snow White. Replace her with something that makes blue, preferably a heartbreaker. Even if it has to be Siegfried, that would be preferable to Sakuya.

An ideal version of this might be I&I/Snow White/Gabe/Hermes/Alrescha/Ryune or something, but you could definitely use farmable options like Siegfried and/or Kamui if necessary. But you definitely don't need that many heartmakers, you definitely do want a heartbreaker, and you definitely don't want Sakuya.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 09, 2016, 09:05:52 PM
Yeah I'll use Siegfried instead of Sakuya because he's my only blue Heartbreaker. Still need to evo and level him, though.
I kinda just want to learn to use teams other than L/R and L/D Pollux, since I literally only use those two. My main problem is that I simply don't have the subs to use these alternative teams.

EDIT: Okay, so testing this team with a Blodin Helper showed some pretty okay results, except in cases when Awakenings are nullified. That gets a little messy. I just about cleared floor 4/6 on Seraphis, which is still bad, but better than I expected.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 09, 2016, 10:08:28 PM
Always just pair with Ryune. Ryune is best friend lead for like all things.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 09, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
I would, but I have no Ryune friends, mostly because I don't consistently use Water stuff. I have Water stuff up like once every few days.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 09, 2016, 11:08:13 PM
Even better, use Y'shtola.

Ryune -> Y'Shtola = 2/3rds blue board. Ask anyone here that does Michael -> Sylvie how damaging it is. (very)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 09, 2016, 11:58:11 PM
I would, but I have no Ryune friends, mostly because I don't consistently use Water stuff. I have Water stuff up like once every few days.

Well if you ever want to test it out send me a message and I can put my Ryune up. Or even better, we can co-op. I bet once you get awakenings and levels on these guys we can clear just about anything short of Cataclysm stuff.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 10, 2016, 01:43:00 AM
That would be nice. I still need to make some modifications to the team so that it dishes a bit more damage than 190%. I'm considering using Sarasvati in place of some monster, but I still need to figure out what. Sarasvati has 2 rows, which is decentish.

Also I should update my PADherder.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 10, 2016, 02:19:53 AM
My Gabriel team only has eight rows and it one-shots pretty much all the things, and with a lower base modifier. Although it does have a higher maximum multiplier. But definitely don't underestimate the damage potential of even a modest numbers of rows. It's not all about stacking crazy numbers of rows, especially if you have a damage enhance. Which you do.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 10, 2016, 04:06:35 AM
Even even better, get this guy (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=3011) or this guy (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2277). They are better than suckuya.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 10, 2016, 04:11:13 AM
Even even better, get this guy (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=3011) or this guy (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2277). They are better than suckuya.

Or this guy (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1227).

 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 10, 2016, 04:24:02 AM
Or this guy (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1227).

 :colonveeplusalpha:

no water orb generation
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 10, 2016, 04:38:07 AM
Well that, and going from x3.75 with a recovery bonus to a conditional x4 is a horrible use of an entire sub. If it wasn't clear, that was a goof, do not attempt to use Beyzul.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on October 10, 2016, 05:57:37 AM
19% for ranking dungeon is good enough for me. Something about this team just triggers me and I'd like to never use Isis as a lead ever again
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 10, 2016, 07:11:08 AM
Yeah, I got 19% as well first try. Now I'm back in that  "There are no more rewards from higher tiers I want but maybe I should try to do better just to do better" position.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 10, 2016, 01:06:22 PM
I got a lucky run landing me in about 8% but that was day one and I was unable to replicate its success so I slowly slid down to about 14%. :negative:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 10, 2016, 02:28:17 PM
Oh crap, I didn't realize it was over already. I had meant to try it today originally. Guess I'm glad I had stamina to blow last night. That's what I get for putting it off.

Ended at 20.5%. Guess I can accept that for 50 stamina.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on October 10, 2016, 07:15:17 PM
19%. Wanted to go for 10%, but it was so short I didn't have real time too honestly
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: hyorinryu on October 11, 2016, 08:31:54 PM
Well that, and going from x3.75 with a recovery bonus to a conditional x4 is a horrible use of an entire sub. If it wasn't clear, that was a goof, do not attempt to use Beyzul.

I'm wondering now, are there any cards eligible for skill inherits that let you switch your leader with a sub?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 11, 2016, 08:57:35 PM
No. As far as I know the only REM card with leader swap is New Year Tengu and he's a four-star.

If there was a way to do that you would see it on every team because it would be the best thing in the game. Probably good it's not possible.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 12, 2016, 02:03:37 PM
Oh dang, the huuuuuge box space increase this update is basically just "have tons of free stones". Neat.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 12, 2016, 02:37:14 PM
I thought I would have to expand my box space..:[attach=1]
And then I saw the box expansion.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 12, 2016, 03:00:36 PM
So in the stream they showed akechi and yukimura ults but we got akechi and mitsunari instead. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 12, 2016, 07:05:24 PM
RIP Yukimura.

Free jewels mean I got Takeru and Sarasvati both to 8* so finally they're fully evod.  Glorious free space too.  I have never had this much room to move before, it feels weird aha.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on October 12, 2016, 08:31:16 PM
Halloween xmei and rozuel
Can't say I saw that coming
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on October 13, 2016, 12:00:19 AM
Halloween xmei and rozuel
Can't say I saw that coming

i am hugely surprised at rozuel since she's been unfavored since red is a shit color

but she's gonna be real nice if i roll her

chiyome and rozuel in same gacha= ded bun though, i'll be covered in alraunes or something instead
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 13, 2016, 02:32:33 AM
Who is this "Kuramitsuha" I'm seeing on that same list? I don't recall any such monster, and I can't seem to find her on PDX. She looks like she's in the series that the Four Noble Ones are in just because of the art style, but she's obviously not because there are, by definition, four cards in the series.

Referencing this: https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/786157464240607232

EDIT: And her skill isn't what I think it is, right? She doesn't just dump out a random skill, does she?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 13, 2016, 02:37:11 AM
Who is this "Kuramitsuha" I'm seeing on that same list? I don't recall any such monster, and I can't seem to find her on PDX. She looks like she's in the series that the Four Noble Ones are in just because of the art style, but she's obviously not because there are, by definition, four cards in the series.

Referencing this: https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/786157464240607232

EDIT: And her skill isn't what I think it is, right? She doesn't just dump out a random skill, does she?
She is a new Descended boss coming to JP unrelated to anything else on that update page.

Her AS is in fact "uses a random skill from a set pool" if PDX is accurate.  What this pool IS remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on October 13, 2016, 05:11:45 AM
Rest of the halloween REM lineup out guys.
MP is probably Sonia gran, no way they're giving xmei for MP.
Parvati is super cute.
Thriller Karin I lol'd
I wonder what's with the an original character silver per special REM thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on October 13, 2016, 05:55:04 AM
wow shit

they think anyone would actually -buy- shitgran? That's awkward. You'd think the card already an MP monster would fit better so they could unleash spookyescha.

karin is cute and also parvarti is cute and that's all else that needs to be said
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 13, 2016, 01:43:12 PM
XM for 500k.

Karin is, well, Karin. Despite me being me I really don't have any use for her sadly.

Alraune is still someone I want quite a bit from there, the buffs just making it slightly more so.

Nothing much else of note for me there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 13, 2016, 02:20:19 PM
Yeah, I'm a bit conflicted about whether to do pulls for Karin, but no, probably not. As fun as her design is. Probably save my stones and hope to snag a real Karin eventually.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Edible on October 13, 2016, 02:58:37 PM
Thriller Karin is the best thing ever
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 13, 2016, 04:10:01 PM
Does anyone around here play Awoken Liu Bei? Got mine finished and put together his team (ABei/Michael/Perseus/Spica/ASusano/ABei) and on paper it looks really, REALLY good. Mediocre-to-low HP excepted. But in co-op this seems like it would be completely nuts with higher HP and even more actives to keep it rolling.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 13, 2016, 05:44:47 PM
Does anyone around here play Awoken Liu Bei? Got mine finished and put together his team (ABei/Michael/Perseus/Spica/ASusano/ABei) and on paper it looks really, REALLY good. Mediocre-to-low HP excepted. But in co-op this seems like it would be completely nuts with higher HP and even more actives to keep it rolling.

The unfortunate truth is that while that crew looks really good, everybody who uses ALB expects Zeus Dios x3 as subs almost 99% of the time
Single player? I could see it being workable provided Susano is up when you actually need to take a hit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 14, 2016, 03:26:55 AM
Seems legit 300k MP Halloween Kali.

Anyways, full lineup is (With a couple of translations just for the sake of reading practice): (http://pad.gungho.jp/member/seasonal/halloween/161013_halloween_lineup.html)
Quote

8   ◇古城の女主神・カーリー (Kali)
◇紅蘭の黒魔女・シャンメイ NEW!(Jiang Mei)
◇古城の居候・ソニア=グラン NEW!(Sonia Gran)

7   ◇古城の青龍喚士・ソニア (Sonia)

6   ◇好奇の客人・ライラ (Laila)
◇月夜の魔狼・ヴァンパイアロード (Vampire Lord)
◇仮装祭の精霊・アルラウネ (Alraune)
◇演舞の青龍姫・カリン NEW!(Karin)
◇仮装祭の小悪魔・ロズエル NEW!(Rozuel)

5   御茶屋の看板娘・望月千代女 NEW!
仮装祭の女神・パールヴァティー NEW!(Parvati)

4   仮装祭の来賓・イザナミ (Izanami)
遊戯の星知神・トト&ソティス (Thoth and Sopdet)
古城のパティシエール・ウンディーネ NEW!(Undine)
仮装祭のカボチャ職人・ムーラン NEW!
仮装祭のロックシンガー・ミザリィ (Misery)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: trancehime on October 14, 2016, 07:02:47 AM
Seems legit 300k MP Halloween Kali.


300k MP halloween Kali was from last year.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 14, 2016, 10:47:09 AM
Oh dang, looks like it might be time for me to dump all my stones here shortly. Blue gala and a godfest with three pantheons I don't own the blue card from (Egyptian 1.0, Sengoku, Archdemon) and one I'd like as many as two duplicates from (Mechanical Star 1.0). Wish Archangels 1.0 were in there somewhere, but hopefully the blue gala provides in that regard. So at that point it's just a matter of how I want to split my stones between the days.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 14, 2016, 11:26:56 AM
Looks like Batman's returning, if anybody cares about that.  Prepare accordingly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 14, 2016, 01:09:42 PM
Oh hey, Spica ult. That's a thing. I guess I'll roll twice then. I want Bastet, and then all of the Star Gods minus Pollux, Australis, and Antares. I think that's a good enough reason to roll. On the other hand, I want to save stones for Halloween... Eh, I guess I could get around to finishing pre-Annihilation Technicals; that should make things easier on my stones.

300k MP halloween Kali was from last year.

Oh whoops, RIP me. Started playing in February, thanks for pointing that out ^_^
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 14, 2016, 01:22:14 PM
Looks like Batman's returning, if anybody cares about that.  Prepare accordingly.

Oooh, I do! Gotta skill up that Blodin!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 14, 2016, 01:33:29 PM
Oooh, I do! Gotta skill up that Blodin!

If I had only known before, Batman would return... (https://imgur.com/JJcVBnY)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 14, 2016, 01:38:15 PM
If I had only known before, Batman would return... (https://imgur.com/JJcVBnY)

I mean... You kind of did ;)

Batman popped back up in Japan at the same time you were working on yours, which is the main reason I wasn't doing the same. It's been a while, but we were pretty sure this was coming eventually.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 14, 2016, 01:45:25 PM
I had things I needed doing, with the Sherias team I used once before immediately going back to Naughty Dog.

He's been sitting on such a weak multiplier for what seems like forever. He'll probably be relegated to ~inherited~ soon enough at this rate.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 14, 2016, 09:26:21 PM
Is it a good idea to feed my spare Pollux full of SBR Latents? It's the L/D one that I use as a sub.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 14, 2016, 10:58:31 PM
Is it a good idea to feed my spare Pollux full of SBR Latents? It's the L/D one that I use as a sub.

Do you mean delay resists? There's no such thing as skill bind resist latents (which is usually what people mean when they say SBR).

Uh... It's not not a good idea, but it's probably not strictly necessary either. Definitely don't buy them with MP, that's for sure. Just keep in mind that skill delay resists are never necessary. You can always get around delay with inheritance if you need to.

In my opinion the best use for it is to put it on a card with two-turn haste so you can use it to recharge the rest of your team after a delay, but even then it's best suited to either stall teams or very tight farm teams that can't afford to inherit anything. And with stall teams you can typically stall out of delays, so... Delay resist latents are really only VERY useful on farm teams in my opinion.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 14, 2016, 11:04:35 PM
Cool so none of my teams, because I haven't made a farm team for any Descend. And yeah, I meant delay resist. It has a very similar icon, so I messed it up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 15, 2016, 10:07:42 AM
i made a button/swipe team with hikari's pollux (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITR6YQ0oAA&feature=youtu.be)

am i good at farming yet???!1111
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 15, 2016, 06:25:30 PM
O_O wtf

I'm not sure whether I should be offended or amazed by that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 15, 2016, 07:51:43 PM
O_O wtf

I'm not sure whether I should be offended or amazed by that.

Be proud, it's a button team to take down the single most powerful being in the entire game.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 16, 2016, 10:33:28 AM
Alright! Godfest time. Maybe seven pulls for now, maybe more later or tomorrow?

-Horus (dupe)
-Tsubaki (dupe, god dammit that thing where I pull only red cards during blue galas, had these been the blue versions I'd have been thrilled)
-Parvati
-Ra (fourth dupe)
-Saria
-Ruka (dupe, but at least A blue card)
-Ra (FIFTH DUPE, may as well at least make a farm team)

Alright, I know I said seven, but this is kind of extremely disappointing, so more until I'm happy with my pulls. Or broke.

-White Metatron (DUPE)
-Isis (There we go! More pulls, let's get a streak going!)
-Pollux (Dupe, but I'm very okay with dupe mechanical stars)
-Basilisk (WHAT?! THESE ARE STILL IN THE REM?!)
-Chester (Dupe)
-Dragon Rider (Ugh, dupe troll gold and once again couldn't I have gotten the blue one during the blue gala since it's the only one I don't already have?)

Last pull!

-DUPE WHITE METATRON AGAIN. FUK U GUNGHO.

Wow, that was... Really shitty. I did get a few cards I wanted, but was hoping for way more. Got six white cards and two blue cards (one of which was Ruka) during a blue gala.

Probably gonna sell BOTH METATRONS, Dragon Rider, Ruka, and Chester. Probably keep the rest.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 16, 2016, 12:41:34 PM
Against my better judgement I did two pulls

>Dupe Ronove(the heck do I want another one for?  Too soon.)

>Dupe Carat(So soon after my first one?  Still, ok with this one for inheritance but I'd still have preferred a new card of some form that I wanted instead.)

Oy.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 16, 2016, 02:21:55 PM
I rolled ten times:Oh wait lemme roll again that was nine times:
(http://imgur.com/lRaITAS.png)(http://imgur.com/v0WXN46.png)

So that's a thing. Also, I made a theoretical team with Sitri for when I get more levels:
(http://imgur.com/GacnQ65.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on October 17, 2016, 04:36:30 AM
I rolled and got Balboa. With baldin I could make some really cool team that I'm not sure will be any good
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 17, 2016, 10:54:26 AM
So that's a thing. Also, I made a theoretical team with Sitri for when I get more levels:
(http://imgur.com/GacnQ65.png)

There is almost no reason to have King Baddie in there when you already have I&I. I do not care if he matches the devil typing, he's off-color and has such poor stats that any non-devil water card would supply better stats and an active to the team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 17, 2016, 11:29:45 AM
Nut, Maeda Keiji, Neptune. I guess gala > godfest?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 17, 2016, 12:03:49 PM
One more roll, dupe Kaede.  I know she is good to have multiples of but really game?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 17, 2016, 12:49:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mfEFPkh.jpg)

 *Gasp*

FINALLY!

There is almost no reason to have King Baddie in there when you already have I&I. I do not care if he matches the devil typing, he's off-color and has such poor stats that any non-devil water card would supply better stats and an active to the team.

Kamui is a really solid farmable blue devil. Just sayin'. Indigo and Hera-Is are options too, but I would argue much weaker and more difficult to skill up ones.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on October 17, 2016, 12:55:32 PM
3 Rolls:

>Sasuke
>Dupe Trollgold Blueberry Dragon
>Dupe Flame Mechadragon

:')

I didn't even want a Sumire anyways....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 17, 2016, 01:23:50 PM
Kamui is a really solid farmable blue devil. Just sayin'. Indigo and Hera-Is are options too, but I would argue much weaker and more difficult to skill up ones.

Cool. More Exp to feed away ;-;
I'll try that though.

To be honest, I was considering using Kamui, but I didn't want to spend another 12M exp on him :P
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 17, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
Kamui is a really solid farmable blue devil. Just sayin'. Indigo and Hera-Is are options too, but I would argue much weaker and more difficult to skill up ones.

don't forget paulina and folklore

folklore's as is so short that you can inherit a good skill onto him
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 17, 2016, 01:27:49 PM
Wait what Paulina is Devil? Is she more viable on that team than Kamui? Because if so...

EDIT: Oh yeah she is she has an enhance for Water orbs. Well, looks like I may be set.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on October 17, 2016, 01:39:47 PM
Wait what Paulina is Devil? Is she more viable on that team than Kamui? Because if so...

EDIT: Oh yeah she is she has an enhance for Water orbs. Well, looks like I may be set.

However she only has a 33% chance of appearing, since she shares the dungeon with the other two farmable Grimoire Girls.

So i guess good luck. :v

(I myself never got her to drop.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 17, 2016, 01:40:29 PM
I think vanilla Paulina is slightly disappointing for how hard she is to skill up. Definitely favor Kamui over her personally. His experience requirement is steep, but her skillups can be a nightmare and grimoires are only really doing their job right when skillmax.

If you'd rather not go through the trouble of making Kamui and are okay with Paulina potentially being a slightly sketchy card rendered even sketchier by a lack of easy skillups, fair enough. That would still be very preferable over King Baddie.

Although if the orb enhance is valuable to you maybe consider Folklore. He's very easy to make and you can just give him whatever skill you want provided you have one available to grant. At that point I think a lot of it comes down to whether you need his lock resist though, since otherwise his stats and awakenings are not good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 17, 2016, 03:01:19 PM
I think honestly I'd rather just do Grimoires since it's an easy dungeon all around. Grinding is fine by me. And anyways, Paulina is my only OE skill monster, so Folklore (who comes from much harder dungeons) wouldn't have any real use to me anyways, since I'd have no skill to give him. And Kamui... I'd rather not dump globes on him. I don't have many in the first place. And using anything other than globes is a pain with Reincarnation Knights.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 17, 2016, 03:07:11 PM
Not disagreeing with you, but keep in mind Folklore can have any skill. A shield might actually be your best bet with him. Doesn't have to be an enhance.

Also, he's much easier to get than even a Grimoire. His materials come from the Mystic Dragon dungeons which are super easy.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 17, 2016, 03:40:13 PM
So I'm getting my new Awoken Isis set up (downside: yet another Bubpy sink) and am trying to decide what skill to put on her. Obviously a lot of the advantage of her is that she's flexible, but the main thing my blue collection is missing is a shield so I think that'll be my main use for her.

I have a lot of inherit options for shields actually, so I'm curious to hear what people's thoughts are on what fits her best (probably for use on dual Neptune Dragon teams primarily).

I can do Blazing Storm Barricade, Iron Wall Stance, Immortal Guard, Protection Of Divine Wisdom, or even maybe Miracle Of Healing. Do any of those sound especially Isis-friendly?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 17, 2016, 04:05:28 PM
So I'm getting my new Awoken Isis set up (downside: yet another Bubpy sink) and am trying to decide what skill to put on her. Obviously a lot of the advantage of her is that she's flexible, but the main thing my blue collection is missing is a shield so I think that'll be my main use for her.

I have a lot of inherit options for shields actually, so I'm curious to hear what people's thoughts are on what fits her best (probably for use on dual Neptune Dragon teams primarily).

I can do Blazing Storm Barricade, Iron Wall Stance, Immortal Guard, Protection Of Divine Wisdom, or even maybe Miracle Of Healing. Do any of those sound especially Isis-friendly?

susano skill sounds best all around but it really depends what you're trying to tank on what floor and how much damage etc
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 17, 2016, 04:23:12 PM
My thoughts as well. Susano may be the best default option (especially since dual NepDras has the RCV to stall it up fairly easily if necessary) but I can definitely plan on changing it out for different situations. I think I would have needed a Kushi active to no-stone +297 Zeus for example. Swapping inherits around isn't cheap, but it's not THAT expensive either.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 17, 2016, 04:41:56 PM
Managed to scrounge up one more roll, got dupe zuoh.
I can't even system them whyyyy.
What should I do with this dood?
E: One more roll, Hathor get. Yay for inheritable gravities?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 17, 2016, 07:00:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Ad79Jju.jpg)

Four prongs, six combos. Not too bad. Wish I had a second Scheat, that would be nuts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 17, 2016, 08:35:31 PM
(https://imgur.com/WIdwdMM.jpg)


One water TPA, ??? combos, ten dragon heads.
It was pretty close to a OHKO too. If I was fortunate enough to get a green skyfall I'm pretty sure DKali would have been gooshed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 18, 2016, 01:03:22 AM
ff helped me scrounge up one more stone to do a final pull aaaand...

(http://i.imgur.com/YGpCPAu.jpg)

YAAY! CUTEST GIRL! This makes up for everything from yesterday!

Edit: Maybe this means my luck is turning and that gypsy curse or whatever that hounded me all weekend is finally over. :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 18, 2016, 01:16:46 AM
(https://imgur.com/8cAZNv2.jpg)

I think this is too good not to share so

Even little old Gainaut with no TPAs is doing 10 million
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 18, 2016, 01:25:37 AM
ff helped me scrounge up one more stone to do a final pull aaaand...

(http://i.imgur.com/YGpCPAu.jpg)

YAAY! CUTEST GIRL! This makes up for everything from yesterday!

Ayy now I know someone else who has a Sitri, so I can actually use my team once I finish it! Maybe. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 18, 2016, 01:36:40 AM
I have a skillmaxed Sitri myself so we can be a...

Sitrinity
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 18, 2016, 01:41:13 AM
Oh, that reminds me: I still haven't used my BF from last reset. Anyone know when the next reset is so I can determine if I urgently need to slap someone with that.

Also.

nononononononononononononono :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: thatwassuchabadjoke
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 18, 2016, 01:57:26 AM
Reset date unknown.  Would expect sometime in November for NA serverversary.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 18, 2016, 02:00:31 AM
Cool :V
Also rip any hope of me making a good decision about who to BF (assuming it is, in fact, in November).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 18, 2016, 02:12:12 AM
I still haven't used mine yet either. I'd be down for a triangle if someone wants to set one up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 18, 2016, 02:22:23 AM
Ayy if you're willing to include me, we'd only need one more person.
Also, if this happens, I think I'll consider doing what I'm seeing another guy do and switch my Slot 2 lead depending on the day of the week. I almost have enough leads now to do that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 18, 2016, 03:47:17 AM
I need more team slots. Like a lot more. Running out of room to put my different weird teams. Only a handful of them see regular use, but I enjoy having a bunch of different ones just to change stuff up.

Also running out of stockpiled +eggs. Or rather, I'm completely out. My last hypermax Tamadra is going to Isis and I have a +275 one that'll be going to Sitri. I had four stockpiled at one point, but I guess it's a sign that I've been getting some decent stuff that they're gone now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on October 18, 2016, 04:28:34 AM
came back to the game after about a month and half of absence to roll, seeing as it was a gf. got myself a ryune, but that's not the dragonbound I want! I wanted the light one... supposes I could always work with the rather nice selection of waters I have on me
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 18, 2016, 06:28:07 AM
Do iiiit, Ryune+most of my leads rolls most things!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 18, 2016, 04:18:14 PM
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=591

(http://i.imgur.com/x3Dphfb.jpg)

"Bomb orbs explode and take out a row+column if not cleared".

What does that mean? Does that mean that row+column is actually destroyed and can't be used anymore, or does it just jam all the orbs in it or something? Because it's the latter... DOOOOOG!

Also, fucking of course the new black number dragon is ridiculously powerful. FUCKING BUFF BEYZUL. NOW. And NepDra's four rows are starting to look reeeeally unimpressive (although they still do their job).

Buffed Tsubaki seems like less of a waste, which is nice because I just pulled a second one of her. And that's before we see her split ultimate.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 18, 2016, 04:20:52 PM
In honor of the stunning Challenge success that commandercool and I had, I went ahead and beat up Tengu solo

(https://imgur.com/ZEQk29E.jpg)

DOOOOOOG

(http://i.imgur.com/gnXfWD8.png)

KANNAAAAAA
(and LZL)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 18, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
So before I got completely nuts farming Batman Collab fishing for Blodin skillups I guess I should double check: There isn't anyone else farming it who wants to co-op, is there?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 18, 2016, 08:13:08 PM
Edit: Accidentally posted Pokemon Sun/Moon shit in PAD thread. Oops.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on October 19, 2016, 12:00:35 PM
I am hating this No-RCV Challenge, so annoying. All because of a lack of SBR.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 19, 2016, 01:10:56 PM
So is Deathstroke an extremely rare spawn in the Batman collab? He's not marked as such but I've seen one out of 15 runs so far. And gotten one skillup off of 14 Bane feeds...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 19, 2016, 02:09:52 PM
 I seem to recall Deathstroke being pretty uncommon for me, too in just the runs I'd attempted back in the day, yeah. Might just be weird RNG though,
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 19, 2016, 02:21:35 PM
Three more runs, three more Banes, zero more skillups.

On another note:

(http://i.imgur.com/0FLWyxL.jpg)

Motherfucker Ryune, stop being such a good friend lead for EVERY BLUE CARD. Ultimate Ryune with machine type plz!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 19, 2016, 03:05:17 PM
I can't believe it took me all the morning stamina I could spare to still be full for predras tonight to drop a light divine mask.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 19, 2016, 03:17:41 PM
I am hating this No-RCV Challenge, so annoying. All because of a lack of SBR.

who needs sbr just go fucking beat their ass while skillbound

(http://i.imgur.com/jNBZ4zD.png)

I can't believe it took me all the morning stamina I could spare to still be full for predras tonight to drop a light divine mask.

skipping s day again huh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 19, 2016, 03:34:42 PM
Well he DID save stam to be full up for it, so there's that.  I def need to try to remember that myself.  Got lots of stuff I need to gather now after all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on October 19, 2016, 03:40:25 PM
who needs sbr just go fucking beat their ass while skillbound

(http://i.imgur.com/jNBZ4zD.png)

Why do you think i am not running more SBR ? Even if it hurts i am getting that clear.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 19, 2016, 03:51:06 PM
My PreDras are at fucking 1AM AGAIN. West coast easy mode. ;)

Although honestly I think I'd rather work on skilling up Blodin and Sitri before PreDras atm. It's just a question of whether even attempting to do Blodin is a waste of time. Should I be going nuts on Sitri since she's on a more limited timer, or on Blodin because this is still technically the easiest way of doing this I'll ever get?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 19, 2016, 04:54:03 PM
If the invade rate for Blodin skillups is as low as it seems, you really might be better off doing Defoud at 99 stamina for a 1/3 drop rate :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 19, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
It's not even an invade! Just a floor that's allegedly 50/50! Hopefully I'm just getting insanely bad RNG (nothing new) and things will even out in the long run. Hopefully?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 19, 2016, 08:41:30 PM
skipping s day again huh
Don't remind me, that day was the blunder of a lifetime. Skipping predras for tamas, witnessing the most unreal invade luck I'll probably ever see, and then not doing tamas because nobody was up for them and I forgot to go solo.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 20, 2016, 12:48:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/AT0roIr.png)

Tried something different for Arena 1
Patiently waiting for Kanna quadTPA and Ceres with 1000 weighted stats.

obviously I OHKO'D Kali in this run
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 20, 2016, 01:12:29 AM
Well, I had almost all Banes all day but I did hit a point where I dropped three Deathstrokes in a row and got a skillup off of one, so... I GUESS it's worth continuing with this dumb plan?

Edit: On the plus side I'm getting tons of Ra skillups. SO THAT'S GOOD, RIGHT? Especially since I should proooobably make my extra Ras into Awoken Ra for farm teams...

Edit edit: Are there any junky cards that are widely used as inherit fodder on pushbutton teams to protect them from delays? Maybe PADZ cards with really long cooldowns are something? Anything I should be keeping an eye out for?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 20, 2016, 02:59:15 AM
Another night, another 2 SDRs.  Sweetness.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 21, 2016, 01:02:48 AM
Well, today I got better drop rates on Deathstroke (still not as many as Banes, but I've gotten five so far) and... Zero skillups. GOD DAMMIT. It will take a fucking miracle to skillmax Blodin at this point, or even get close. Hopefully I have a lucky day and can get 2-3, but he takes SO MANY to max. Almost just want to abandon him until he hopefully gets an easier skillup some day, especially since I don't really have a specific use for him, but... I guess I'll keep going. Might as well. Maybe I'll have a really lucky streak eventually.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 21, 2016, 02:14:48 AM
Well, today I got better drop rates on Deathstroke (still not as many as Banes, but I've gotten five so far) and... Zero skillups. GOD DAMMIT. It will take a fucking miracle to skillmax Blodin at this point, or even get close. Hopefully I have a lucky day and can get 2-3, but he takes SO MANY to max. Almost just want to abandon him until he hopefully gets an easier skillup some day, especially since I don't really have a specific use for him, but... I guess I'll keep going. Might as well. Maybe I'll have a really lucky streak eventually.
I missed my Tans and have no direct things to work on at the moment.  Want a partner if you get this tonight?  Hop on IRC and we can hash something out for a few runs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 21, 2016, 12:53:25 PM
Wait so when is Ana Descended? It said that details were on Facebook but there's nothing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 21, 2016, 12:58:36 PM
Wait so when is Ana Descended? It said that details were on Facebook but there's nothing.
It's tonight, 13 hours from this post. Don't forget that we have the snow globe mission too!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 21, 2016, 01:12:54 PM
Three more Deathstroke feeds. YOU OWE ME PAD.

1: Yes
2: No
3: Yes

ACCEPTABLE.

Thus begins commandercool's day of non-horrible RNG.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 21, 2016, 01:43:29 PM
Also, I near-finished Sitri and I only need a Green Divine Mask for Bastet. So if anyone is still interested in Sitri, I got one ready.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 21, 2016, 01:52:24 PM
Mine will probably be done this time next week. But I am interested once I get her rolling.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 21, 2016, 03:59:30 PM
speaking of not-horrible rng

(http://i.imgur.com/IJDmBY7.png) (http://i.imgur.com/PEEsE4a.png) (http://i.imgur.com/2p936Sn.png) (http://i.imgur.com/9qxVTAo.png) (http://i.imgur.com/rMVWxF5.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/nVJ9UL8.png) (http://i.imgur.com/umlbkgR.png) (http://i.imgur.com/NbzAZ3n.png) (http://i.imgur.com/mdaq4g1.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 21, 2016, 10:21:46 PM
I was just messing around with a Sitri and when I matched a second cross this sword animation popped up over it. What is that exactly?

Edit: Looks like that animation pops up over each cross. Is that just how color crosses work? In retrospect I guess I've only ever used heart crosses.

Edit edit: Sitri is... Interesting. She's not TOO hard to activate 81x with if you're careful, and 9x can hit reasonably hard. Not sure what kind of subs I want to use with her though since she's wide-open for subs. I wonder if it would be worth committing to rows or prongs just to boost her 9x hits? Or should I just try to go all orb enhance? Also not sure to what degree I want to go for blue devils of if I should just go general goodstuff for the most part.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on October 21, 2016, 10:41:33 PM
Edit: Looks like that animation pops up over each cross. Is that just how color crosses work? In retrospect I guess I've only ever used heart crosses.

Yes

(http://i.imgur.com/9CuGDiw.png)

Messed around with Awoken Bastet for a bit since there was actually someone putting up a Baggi Bastet on my frdlist.
It's actually kinda nostalgic ;-; Party is really powered up since I last used it, with ults to kaede and vishnu and the addition of mathena.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 21, 2016, 10:56:26 PM
Edit edit: Sitri is... Interesting. She's not TOO hard to activate 81x with if you're careful, and 9x can hit reasonably hard. Not sure what kind of subs I want to use with her though since she's wide-open for subs. I wonder if it would be worth committing to rows or prongs just to boost her 9x hits? Or should I just try to go all orb enhance? Also not sure to what degree I want to go for blue devils of if I should just go general goodstuff for the most part.

To be honest, you don't want to use rows or TPAs with Sitri. Orb Enhance all the way, man. It's impossible to activate two crosses along with any rows, and same thing with TPAs. If you can't seem to find yourself getting 10 water orbs when you need them, then TPAs could be considered, but generally OEs will be the most helpful.

And you want use Devils in at least 4/5 slots for sure. If you have something going in which you plan to use colors other than blue, go for it, by those cards should still be Devils. That extra 1.8x ATK (two leads) on Devils matters. Probably.

Or I'm completely wrong. This is just what I've gathered from using Sitri.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 21, 2016, 11:24:12 PM
speaking of not-horrible rng

(http://i.imgur.com/IJDmBY7.png) (http://i.imgur.com/PEEsE4a.png) (http://i.imgur.com/2p936Sn.png) (http://i.imgur.com/9qxVTAo.png) (http://i.imgur.com/rMVWxF5.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/nVJ9UL8.png) (http://i.imgur.com/umlbkgR.png) (http://i.imgur.com/NbzAZ3n.png) (http://i.imgur.com/mdaq4g1.png)
The absolute madman.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 21, 2016, 11:39:37 PM
To be honest, you don't want to use rows or TPAs with Sitri. Orb Enhance all the way, man. It's impossible to activate two crosses along with any rows, and same thing with TPAs. If you can't seem to find yourself getting 10 water orbs when you need them, then TPAs could be considered, but generally OEs will be the most helpful.

Right, if I'm backing rows or prongs (probably prongs) it's because I want to be able to hit harder with a single cross. Obviously they're of no use with two crosses. But that takes a pretty specific number of orbs, so... Probably not?

And you want use Devils in at least 4/5 slots for sure. If you have something going in which you plan to use colors other than blue, go for it, by those cards should still be Devils. That extra 1.8x ATK (two leads) on Devils matters. Probably.

Wait what? Do people use colors other than blue with Sitri? Which colors? What cards?

Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 21, 2016, 11:47:51 PM
Wait what? Do people use colors other than blue with Sitri? Which colors? What cards?

I wasn't sure what you meant by

general goodstuff

Nobody actually uses colors other than blue. I assume it's possible, albeit disadvantagous.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Dr Rawr on October 22, 2016, 01:17:10 AM
Haven't been to arena since Myr buffs and I have to say it's actually impossible with sopdet spawn. Heart cross + one combo of unenhanced orbs still let her absorb. Rukia seems to be my only arena ready team now lul
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 22, 2016, 01:24:08 AM
Got any/enough subattributes to try KOing her that way?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on October 22, 2016, 01:33:28 AM
Haven't been to arena since Myr buffs and I have to say it's actually impossible with sopdet spawn. Heart cross + one combo of unenhanced orbs still let her absorb. Rukia seems to be my only arena ready team now lul

Try doing rows with no heart cross. lol
I think my frd and I did make it pass sopdet before by doing that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 22, 2016, 02:43:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/z6pWEes.jpg)

GET HER,  BLANC! SHE'S OPEN!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on October 22, 2016, 03:03:33 AM
GET YOUR STREAM REWARDS HERE! (http://puzzleanddragons.us/twitch-giveaways/)
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Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 22, 2016, 03:05:21 AM
Dang, I actually got amazing Blodin skillup today. Six down, three to go (as well as two I already have from Bubpii feeds a long time ago)! That makes up for most of the horror I guess. Well good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 22, 2016, 04:01:34 AM
Does the challenge apply only to X? Or does it also apply to Legend?

Because Legend was easy :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 22, 2016, 04:29:57 AM
Does the challenge apply only to X? Or does it also apply to Legend?

Because Legend was easy :derp:
Either difficulty will suffice so if you did Legend you're fine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 22, 2016, 04:33:53 AM
Well, among the rewards we're getting, is SNOW GLOBE RUSH. It's happening.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 22, 2016, 05:26:28 AM
Grodin Tamazo Oneshot Challenge announced from 10/24 to 10/30. THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT TO GET THE TAMAZO. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CLEAR EVERY FLOOR.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on October 22, 2016, 09:26:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/0Aw83qr.png)(http://i.imgur.com/9F1T5C4.png)

Scarlet took the most tries as expected. Myr was easy with Ishtar.
Finally solo cleared all mythical plus  of special descendeds with Awoken Catte leads!
Ishtar's ult helped so much because I don't have to put J?rmungandr for the predras, which suck as a sub.
To this day I still wonder how the heck did I pass Gainout with jormung sub lawl.

Well.. there's actually still special descended rush but I really don't think I can do it with awoken catte. maybe when revo comes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 22, 2016, 01:35:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/0Aw83qr.png)(http://i.imgur.com/9F1T5C4.png)

Scarlet took the most tries as expected. Myr was easy with Ishtar.
Finally solo cleared all mythical plus  of special descendeds with Awoken Catte leads!
Ishtar's ult helped so much because I don't have to put J?rmungandr for the predras, which suck as a sub.
To this day I still wonder how the heck did I pass Gainout with jormung sub lawl.

Well.. there's actually still special descended rush but I really don't think I can do it with awoken catte. maybe when revo comes.

Ooh congratulations! I know how tricky that can be. I've got all of them clear with Gabriel except for Linthia, and I don't really think I can do her short of like dozens of tries right now. Hopefully some day soon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Thaws on October 22, 2016, 07:09:25 PM
Ooh congratulations! I know how tricky that can be. I've got all of them clear with Gabriel except for Linthia, and I don't really think I can do her short of like dozens of tries right now. Hopefully some day soon.

Thanks!
I can imagine Linthia for your team is like scarlet for mine. Worst part about playing tricolor is halved damage afterall... Linthia is delay-able and there's awakening bind heals now so there might be some way? iuno.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 22, 2016, 07:39:03 PM
Yeah I could definitely inherit a Godin active or something. But messing too much with the Gabriel formula is always trouble.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 23, 2016, 04:12:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/bgV8ZXv.jpg)

YAAAAY! Thanks for the co-op help jq and Pesco.

That was a mess, but at least he's done.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 23, 2016, 04:41:55 PM
Oh wow he's actually pretty fast, huh?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 23, 2016, 05:34:19 PM
Yeah. Which is good and bad. Good because fast is stronger than slow, bad because every time they buff him they only decrease the minimum cooldown while leaving the max the same so he takes more and more and more skillups...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 23, 2016, 09:25:20 PM
3 2 1 blastoff

(http://i.imgur.com/3ZzXhLQ.gif)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 24, 2016, 08:47:11 AM
TFW YOU ROLL TWO GOLDS AND THEY'RE BOTH THE ONES YOU WANT

IN ONLY 5 ROLLS

(http://i.imgur.com/4AnSMRP.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on October 24, 2016, 10:26:37 AM
mm! I was hoping for a misery, she looks coolcute and poison always sounded fun. Unfortunately that means having to go get lynthia and sevenzard skillups but eh maybe if I'm bored. The other pull was a gold... vampire. which is pretty useless to me unless I really need the godkiller over beach valk's machine slayer for whatever reason. Might pull another when I get another stone.

e: oh right the reset in bits. anyone need a third for a bff triangle?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 24, 2016, 10:54:24 AM
Not sure what you have, but ccool and I need a third.

Also: Dayum One-Shot Challenge gives some serious rewards! +99 Tama, Grand PreDRA and a globe, and I've only cleared Level 5...

Edit: I got trolled so absurdly hard. I have no words.
Edit2: Like, I wasn't expecting much either, but this is a load of BS. Those dupes collectively sell for 15k MP, too. And they're all 4*, so I can't even inherit them.
Edit3: Even the golds I don't know what to do with, though. I have no wood teams whatsoever, and I don't know where Rozuel could possibly go.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on October 24, 2016, 11:42:59 AM
@Hikari: My three slots are lead by ASaku, APanda, and Myr. I can always prioritize maxing, say, ryune.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 24, 2016, 12:46:22 PM
All of those except Panda are useful to me, but AFAIK ccool can only use Ryune, so we'd need to wait for him to discuss it fully.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 24, 2016, 12:52:02 PM
I'm fine with that triangle, always happy to friend MotK people, but at the moment I don't need another Ryune. I'll probably regret saying that because they'll immediately switch leads or something, but I have a consistent Ryune BF at the moment.

That's not to say you shouldn't make your Ryune, she's super useful, but I don't necessarily *need* more of them.

So who's going to friend who in the triangle?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 24, 2016, 12:58:13 PM
At the least, I'd (and maybe you) need to friend Mea, and then...

Mea>ccool>Hikari>Mea?

or...

Hikari>ccool>Mea>Hikari?

It's either clockwise or counterclockwise. Take your pick.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on October 24, 2016, 01:31:42 PM
Halloween REM Results:

(http://i.imgur.com/KpmK5mS.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/IOuc1Eh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1ZGzoXj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3tvl9lc.jpg)

Totally worth it with Parvati and Layla (especially Parvati), would have traded the Izanami and Vampire Lord for an Alraune though, i can still squeeze some rolls before it goes away.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 24, 2016, 02:07:58 PM
At the least, I'd (and maybe you) need to friend Mea, and then...

Mea>ccool>Hikari>Mea?

or...

Hikari>ccool>Mea>Hikari?

It's either clockwise or counterclockwise. Take your pick.

Alright, I'll friend you and Mea will friend me, you'll friend Mea. Mea, that work for you?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 24, 2016, 02:48:45 PM
In any case did we ever get told that anything other than the bargain would be reset, or are the others a given? I haven't heard anything about BF or memorial REM resets yet.

Anyways there's a new GFE in JP, Atem. His active makes a jorm board (with jammers!!!!!) and his lead skill is 5x for 5 color and forces the board into 7x6, like the dummy lead skill that was datamined together with the supposed red miru recently.

E: what the fuck his awakenings. God devil dragon machine balanced attacker physical healer killers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 24, 2016, 02:50:45 PM
His active makes a jorm board (with jammers!!!!!)

never spending a stone again until this fucker comes out
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 24, 2016, 02:56:14 PM
never spending a stone again until this fucker comes out
Actually I misread it, it's a jorm board plus hearts.
On 5 CD.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: OverlordChirei on October 24, 2016, 02:58:53 PM
Actually I misread it, it's a jorm board plus hearts.
On 5 CD.

The jammers are supposed to be the disadvantage, so I have no idea how it works on a vanilla board because it has to generate at least 3 of 7 orb types. You will probably get a crap amount of jams out of it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 24, 2016, 03:03:06 PM
It's literally the same active as Gainaut except without a red orb enhance and 3 turns shorter

That's all there is to it

And I need it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 24, 2016, 03:14:21 PM
Wow, those are really interesting mechanics actually. What's this guy's attack? And colors?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on October 24, 2016, 03:23:41 PM
Soo.... Lvl 9 of the One-shot challenge is 6 Stars or less or go home.

Shiiiit.

Also Lvl 10 is Myr, double shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 24, 2016, 03:25:17 PM
5015/615/373

Light/Fire attributes, God-typed

Basically Scheat stats for Fenrir and instead of needing a TPA you just deal x3 or x9 passively to all enemies
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on October 24, 2016, 03:43:58 PM
Cool, looking forward for it !

@Dog: Please tell me you have a Denebola in that Box-o-jammers of yours.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 24, 2016, 04:12:57 PM
5015/615/373

Light/Fire attributes, God-typed

Basically Scheat stats for Fenrir and instead of needing a TPA you just deal x3 or x9 passively to all enemies

Guuuh. Further RIP Scheat.

By the way, I really want to try Scheat on a Fenrir team soon. Probably in place of AYomi on my team. Her active in niche, but it can be used before a board change to increase blue drop rate for further prong shenanigans, and I thiiink it still stacks with the jammer skyfall boost because they use different slots?

It's probably not practical, but it could lead to some hilarious damage numbers and might be fun to mess around with.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 24, 2016, 04:15:09 PM
@Dog: Please tell me you have a Denebola in that Box-o-jammers of yours.
I only have two cards from Constellation 2, unfortunately
And they're both Hamal :(


Guuuh. Further RIP Scheat.

By the way, I really want to try Scheat on a Fenrir team soon. Probably in place of AYomi on my team. Her active in niche, but it can be used before a board change to increase blue drop rate for further prong shenanigans, and I thiiink it still stacks with the jammer skyfall boost because they use different slots?

It's probably not practical, but it could lead to some hilarious damage numbers and might be fun to mess around with.

Yeah you can stack a color skyfall with a "hazard" skyfall like jammers without any issues
Scheat could always inherit something dumb like the TPA gemstone enhance ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 24, 2016, 04:19:17 PM
Yeah you can stack a color skyfall with a "hazard" skyfall like jammers without any issues
Scheat could always inherit something dumb like the TPA gemstone enhance ;)

The only gemstone I own is the extend time one, which is still probably decent, but it seems like such a shame to not be able to go all-out with the TPA one.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 24, 2016, 04:24:14 PM
You know what would be really interesting with this guy? If they ever made an inheritable leader switch. That way you can out him in any light/rainbow team, stall until the lead change is ready, and then switch to your leader of choice with a probably free 7x6 board on anything. Chibi tengu where????
E:
(https://i.imgur.com/eQCMyExl.png)
After the embarassment of the just finished c10, this feels pretty good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Chaore on October 24, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
rolled 8, halloween blonia and pervertarti
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 24, 2016, 09:10:44 PM
What even do you use Parvati for? I can't seem to find any use for her.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on October 24, 2016, 09:33:53 PM
One roll, Halloween Sonia.

I think I'm done here...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 24, 2016, 09:45:16 PM
(http://imgur.com/Au629VU.jpg)

6* enhance lets you do some janky shit

Sherias -> Sitri is also hella legit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on October 25, 2016, 01:43:04 AM
@other 2 jah that works, bff gogo
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 25, 2016, 02:13:03 AM
Alright, I'll friend you and Mea will friend me, you'll friend Mea. Mea, that work for you?

Just moving this down. Mea, can you accept my request?

e: Oh, restarted PAD and saw nvm
e2: Did mine, how about you two?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Mеа on October 25, 2016, 02:34:27 AM
mine yes yup
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 25, 2016, 02:44:29 AM
Yay, so now just waiting on ccool :derp:

Then I just need to try and hit rank 250 so I can get that a second time after the reset.
And then I will be ready for the reset completely.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 25, 2016, 02:55:53 AM
Yay, so now just waiting on ccool :derp:

Then I just need to try and hit rank 250 so I can get that a second time after the reset.
And then I will be ready for the reset completely.

Alright, friended. TRIANGLE COMPLETE!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 25, 2016, 04:48:59 AM
How painful. I went through Level 7 and cleared the first two floors easily, and then I died on Shields, of all things...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 25, 2016, 05:33:54 AM
This went so smoothly it was scary.

(http://i.imgur.com/nJx86DB.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Tkl5p7I.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/xp089H8.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 25, 2016, 11:31:30 AM
It took me a whole day but finally that whole no awakening nonsense is done with. As expected, once Chaos Devil Dragon was dealt with the rest was all smooth sailing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 25, 2016, 12:41:17 PM
For that one I'm honestly just going to build a heart cross team with Typhon and Myr. Just need to make the subs light. Not missing a lot as far as damage goes.

e: We're nearing 1000 again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: commandercool on October 25, 2016, 01:13:46 PM
It took me a whole day but finally that whole no awakening nonsense is done with. As expected, once Chaos Devil Dragon was dealt with the rest was all smooth sailing.

Likewise. Putting an instant kill with a short timer at yhe beginning of a no-awakenings is a dirty trick.

Challenge 9 has been giving me trouble, but then I remembered, oh yeah, Alrescha is still six stars. I can just swap out one member of Team Gabriel for Sitri or something and just use my normal team but with double stats. Just need to get the stamina back up to give that a shot.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 25, 2016, 03:23:23 PM
Oh hey, even though it's not my main account, I guess things weren't bad at all:
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 25, 2016, 04:14:15 PM
Took me long enough, geez.
(http://i.imgur.com/369SY8D.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/bBom6cs.png)

Oh, and I ate a Time Saw and lived to tell about it.  AKarin's light resist latents putting in work.
(http://i.imgur.com/8khyMCU.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Monarda on October 25, 2016, 04:19:11 PM
Nice job, i gotta work on getting an Cross Shield Team too, AKA see if Sumire agrees to join us.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 25, 2016, 06:27:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/HyYYJqrl.png)
Surprise MVP is Sanosuke. With his balanced killer he wrecked z8 like if it was nobody's business. 25 million? Nothing on top of 18x the times the amount of damage!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 25, 2016, 07:34:27 PM
Balanced Killer?  Z8 is Dragon/Physical/Devil though...

Still, always nice to see more clears~!  That stage is really tilted.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 25, 2016, 07:39:25 PM
Balanced Killer?
... Physical killer, hurr. It let me oneshot the shieldras with ease too.
But yeah, c10 is like a straight up rush of regularly difficult bosses instead of the super gimmicky ones from before.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: The Greatest Dog on October 25, 2016, 08:08:54 PM
Oh. I guess all three of the Sherias I used had a devil killer, but also a Healer killer.

Rip Awoken Venus in that same dungeon, haaaaaaaa.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 25, 2016, 09:54:45 PM
Ayy if nobody minds, I'm throwing up the new thread at 4:00 PST, aka 1 hour and 5 minutes from the time this is posted. Very close to being at the limit for this thread. Also, if anyone objects to me (in particular) doing it, that should also be said :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on October 25, 2016, 10:11:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YciOhRRl.png)
First try, even!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Jq1790 on October 25, 2016, 10:25:57 PM
What'd you use?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Attorneys Thread 31 - 10 combos for all
Post by: Hikarin on October 25, 2016, 11:04:05 PM
New thread; lock this :flamingv: (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,20334.0.html)