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Title: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on June 25, 2013, 05:00:51 PM
This'll be a bit different, but here we go:

Fans of the AA series will know that AAI2 never got localized, and despite many individual attempts to translate the game, pretty much all of them have run out of steam very early on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzQuGq21Dlc&list=PLjRAU3j6cNaixtcLDixVlaz7Vcthm0rmh
Not anymore!

Post here if you're like me - if Japanese is like Chinese to you, and you've been saving yourself for something like this for who knows how long.

Purpose of this thread is twofold: to happily follow the translation with speculations (we don't want you if you've spoiled yourself, sorry!) and to support the translator as thanks for the ridiculous speed they're doing this at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqST5c8_L8o

There IS an actual fan-made patch underway. To quote the wiki page: "A fan translation of Gyakuten Kenji 2, titled Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth: Prosecutor's Path, is in development. In October 2012, footage was posted online showing the intro to the game's first case, "Turnabout Target", translated into English. The translation patch of the first case was initially announced for a January 2013 release, however, due to extensive de-bugging and work on translating the second case, the release date is currently undetermined." To be frank, who knows when that'll happen.

So yeah. Happy viewing and pausing-of-the-video-when-needed.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on June 25, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
Holy balls.

Someone had translated the first episode a while ago, but it didn't get any further than that.  The one you just linked by dowolf is already almost finished with case 2.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention .<3
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on June 25, 2013, 05:09:00 PM
You bet. <40 subscribers. I have no idea how this hasn't blown up after two weeks.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: theshirn on June 25, 2013, 05:24:33 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa why

want want want want want want want
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on June 25, 2013, 05:25:25 PM
O________________O
BT HAVE I SWORN MY EVERLASTING LOVE FOR YOU YET
WELLL KEEP WAITING BECAUSE I SAVE IT ALL FOR EDGEY-POO!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on June 25, 2013, 05:37:36 PM
This sounds like it's been slowed down to 70% or so.  Hopefully he re-uploads it at proper speed at some point, but this will do for now.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on June 25, 2013, 05:44:40 PM
It's barely noticeable (in fact, I've only noticed it during some transitions when things suddenly speed up / slow down), or at least that's how I have it, dunno.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Solais on June 26, 2013, 06:25:22 AM
I've been waiting for this. Too bad my DS since then broke. :V
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on June 26, 2013, 09:12:04 AM
:/
Without spoiling any of the actual events, this first case was the worst thing in my opinion. All the random chess terminology that Edgeworth has never used before just to make his stupid new 'talking to people' technique pretend to make sense instead of making him look like he's talking to imaginary chess friends, combined with the 'and here's Kay with no reason whatsoever' and the animeness of the case pushed to eleven. I really hope the non-tutorial isn't as hamfisted as this.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: N-Forza on June 26, 2013, 11:13:12 AM
Uh, Edgeworth has always been a fan of chess. Sure it feels a little weird to have it pop up all of a sudden but it's in character at least.

If this is the same project that springboarded from the Court Records forum, I actually did some work on the first and second cases. I had to stop around the third since that's when I got my new job, but it's looking all right so far.

Also, I've played the game all the way through. I would say it's better than the first AAI game by a decent margin.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on June 26, 2013, 02:00:37 PM
Thanks for your help, Forza. <3

Also, I've played the game all the way through. I would say it's better than the first AAI game by a decent margin.

I hear this a lot.  It's yet another reason why I'm sad it didn't get localized.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: trancehime on June 26, 2013, 03:08:32 PM
Uh, Edgeworth has always been a fan of chess. Sure it feels a little weird to have it pop up all of a sudden but it's in character at least.

That it's that jarring is probably indicative of questionable writing more than a direct hit at Edgeworth himself in my opinion, I reckon.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on June 27, 2013, 09:37:07 AM
So, uh,

Why is it that I doubt the killer is Fang? I actually thought it was Ms. Warden for the longest time. Now I'm having my doubts but if she's not the killer she's probably involved in the inevitable Evil Syndicate anyway. I also thought that the 'attacker' in the detention cell wasn't a dog at all (look at the mirror) but a cat or something like it. Dunno, maybe I'm dung. I mean, I thought Ally was going to be that cat but whoops sudden Alligator siren.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on June 27, 2013, 08:40:26 PM
Raymond Furst is the Cirno of this franchise.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on June 28, 2013, 01:00:59 AM
FURSTO RATE! I thought he was going to be.. very... different from.. wow. The judge has her arm so far up his butt she can squeeze his tonsils.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on June 28, 2013, 04:12:51 PM
HA.

Cat, bear, same thing. I'm a proven animal-dyslexic now.

Tell me when you guys are caught up so I can stop spamming the spoil taggings.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on June 29, 2013, 03:56:09 AM
I'm getting there, slowly.

Von Jure:
"More importantly, I believe I gave you a warning: if you did not wish to lose your badge, you should ensure I never again lay eyes upon you."

Edgeworth:
"My apologies if you thought I would obey." /smug


Edgeypoo :*
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on June 29, 2013, 06:09:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaU3-io_iI&t=11m3s

That's a new little gingle.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on June 30, 2013, 12:06:55 PM
As of part 4 of this case I am completely unsurprised by this turn of events. On the plus side, this is more fun to watch now that the tutorials are done.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 02, 2013, 07:27:21 AM
Yeah, called it earlier.
Ally BITE.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 03, 2013, 04:40:11 PM
Oh man.

So yeah, I was a wee bit off with my assumption. That was lovely.

That bluff was SO EDGY oh god
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on July 03, 2013, 06:20:50 PM
The best kind of fur coat.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on July 04, 2013, 01:43:32 AM
Why is she wearing an inmate's outfit? o_o
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on July 04, 2013, 01:32:56 PM
Why is she wearing an inmate's outfit? o_o

Advance planning!

Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Jmyster on July 04, 2013, 10:40:37 PM
Ho, so Investigations 2 translation has risen from the ashes at last! Thank you for bringing this to my attention. To viewing!  :objection!:
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 06, 2013, 08:30:29 AM
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080902204344/aceattorney/images/3/3b/Holdit.gif)

From a YouTube comment:

"The fan translation team has just finished case 3, and will most likely be finishing the rest of the game before the end of the summer. Cases 1 and 2 will be released soon.
Therefore, it will indeed be localised."

Confirm / Deny please. I didn't see this when I was searching a while ago.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on July 07, 2013, 09:31:15 AM
It sounds like it's the same 'team' that's always been doing this? I've seen them comment on a few earlier videos too, basically asking why dowolf was translating on their own instead of working with the team, and dowolf answered that he'd be satisfied with his work doing it on his own. If he keeps up this rate he'll be finished before the 'couple months time' that the fantranslation is going for.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on July 07, 2013, 05:39:01 PM
Ahahah oh god, I cannot get the dancesweets theme out of my head.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on July 09, 2013, 06:48:56 PM
This case seems needlessly complex.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 10, 2013, 03:23:57 PM
RIP Dr. Gero Takovski.

Everything's crazy it seems.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on July 15, 2013, 07:57:37 PM
Furst may be the worst "antagonist" this series has ever seen <_<

Every time he and Von Jure show up there's this endless parade of idiocy that really does nothing to help anyone.  It just feels like needless padding.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: N-Forza on July 16, 2013, 11:33:15 AM
I really don't want to spoil things, but he gets better.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on July 16, 2013, 11:47:30 PM
Furst isn't what I'd call an antagonist right now >_> It's clearly Von Jure that Edgey has to fight.
I like him though! He and Gumshoe should start a club.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 16, 2013, 11:48:55 PM
You mean he and GIANT DETECTIVE. Gets nicknames all the time but this one I find particularly amusing.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on July 21, 2013, 04:30:59 PM
Man, I just noticed this, but Von Karma wears earrings.  WTF?  I could have sworn he didn't have those in the first game. <_<
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 22, 2013, 12:23:41 AM
Part 7.1 was great.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 26, 2013, 02:52:48 PM
This is so... stupid.

I'll be hoping that
Manor's true agenda
spontaneously pops up later. My head is full of dumb.

Remember the days when cases were simple and plausible?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on July 26, 2013, 11:44:58 PM
Every time Furst and Von Jure show up a kitten dies.  :derp:
Gotta say I like this series, I should get into Ace Attorney more.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on July 27, 2013, 06:16:06 AM
I didn't think it was stupid, I thought her motive was obvious actually (I haven't watched past 8.2 yet)
She set a trap for the 'real murderer' who would come looking for the body where it was hidden. Why else would Takovski try to steal the Gemini statue?

Edit: Speaking of Von Jure, am I the only one annoyed by how Edgeworth is never allowed to act as a real prosecutor in his investigation games? AAI1 had the same thing, he always has to sneak in as an assistant, the exception being the tutorial. Would it really be so hard for him to be in charge?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 27, 2013, 07:58:32 AM
Oh, I don't think the
trap
was stupid. It's mostly
the whole sculpture disappearance thing that seems like they were short on ideas for catalysts. Body transportation and all that turned out to be an unrealistic mess, too.

Unrelated,
I really don't want to spoil things, but he gets better.
I have a god guess for this and I can't wait.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on July 28, 2013, 04:45:29 PM
Caught up.

I wonder how they're going to "get" Takovski if the murder is outside the statute of limitations.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 28, 2013, 04:47:02 PM
It's at the very least possible to free Tone. I think that's the objective.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on July 30, 2013, 03:49:29 PM
>Takovski confessed
>Tone's judgement cannot be overturned

*facepalm*

At least the Convenient Math at the end was amusing.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on July 30, 2013, 05:01:57 PM
I expected the convenient math ever since they gave us the book as evidence. Judge von Jure confirmed for von Karma 2.0
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on July 31, 2013, 04:45:28 PM
Well, that answers that.

Finally, this ridiculous case is over.

It was a fun case, just... I can't think of another word for it besides "ridiculous".
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on August 02, 2013, 07:52:35 PM
4.1 is up.

omg kay ;_;
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 02, 2013, 08:06:23 PM
My reaction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s) to
Kay
in 4.1.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on August 02, 2013, 08:22:49 PM
I've never been a fan of the Maya Fey archetype so no complaints here. Fresh and interesting, hope it doesn't resolve itself too fast.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Suikama on August 02, 2013, 08:26:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4njyBiBLV20
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 02, 2013, 08:36:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4njyBiBLV20
Suikama... you're scaring me.  :smokedcheese:
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on August 03, 2013, 12:37:21 AM
...And NOW I feel sorry.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 03, 2013, 08:36:47 PM
4.2 is up and NO NOT THE CLIFFHANGERS ANYTHING BUT CLIFFHANGERS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!  :colonveeplusalpha:

WHAT A MINUTE THERE'S TWO KAYS???
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 04, 2013, 05:26:39 AM
I've never been a fan of the Maya Fey archetype so no complaints here. Fresh and interesting, hope it doesn't resolve itself too fast.
DON'T COMPARE THAT WANNA BE TO THE WONDERFUL MAYA FEY >:<
THIS IS EVERYTHING i EVER WANTED AND MORE I'M SO HAPPY!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 05, 2013, 12:39:23 AM
4.2...
THE RETURN OF FRANZISKA von KARMA!!!! *whiplash*
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 05, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
Lurker finally caught up with 93 parts.  I wanted to say thanks for posting this.  Although it seems that this game does a bit more hand-holding than others?  Or is it just because I don't have the game physically in front of me?  Most of the player-driven choices (i.e. the gameplay) seem... easy in this game, and Edgeworth explains the hard stuff in seven minutes of narrative.  There's no faulting the insane, twisty cases, though.

I'm uncomfortable with this Edgeworth character development (
Prosecutor vs. Attorney
).  But I'm sure it will end in a satisfying way.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on August 05, 2013, 01:13:24 AM
Although it seems that this game does a bit more hand-holding than others?

To be fair, we are experiencing the game through the eyes of someone who progresses through the game at their own pace, answering all of the "questions" and such correctly the first time with minimal repetition of dialogue or what-have-you.  That said, I agree that the game seems easier overall with one exception - logic chess.  There are certainly fewer logic events, but I suspect logic chess is much more of a hassle when you're playing it blind.

Quote
I'm uncomfortable with this Edgeworth character development (
Prosecutor vs. Attorney
).  But I'm sure it will end in a satisfying way.

Gyakuten Saiban/Ace Attorney 5 minor spoilers:
Edgeworth is the head prosecutor 7 years from now, so there's that.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 05, 2013, 01:28:25 AM
I agree about the logic chess.  The game tells you what to look for, and yet the number of "I'm not sure what to do here" moments are still pretty high for me.

Also, I suspect that part of the difficulty debuff stems from how easy it could be for a casual player to walk in and realize they have no idea what's going on.  If you're picking the game up for the first time in a couple of months, you're -probably- not going to remember the first half of Case 3 in any coherent way.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on August 06, 2013, 02:32:32 PM
"I have a whip, therefore I must whip.  Such is my philosophy."

:getdown:

Edit:
ugh even when I know Furst was gonna show up it still made me cringe
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 06, 2013, 03:33:53 PM
That's weird, I see our Trilo, but where's his Ben? Is he actually going to.. talk alone?!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 07, 2013, 02:43:12 PM
"I have a whip, therefore I must whip.  Such is my philosophy."

:getdown:

Edit:
ugh even when I know Furst was gonna show up it still made me cringe
Frust showed up meaning a cat has sadly died and oh god his reasoning that Kay is a suspect is BULLSHIT I mean she has amnesia for fucks sake dude CUT HER SOME SLACK she's a victim too.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on August 07, 2013, 08:50:57 PM
Furst showing up and then immediately getting the shit whipped out of him.  Oh, Frannie, I knew I liked you for a reason.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 08, 2013, 01:04:36 AM
The beatings will continue until the logic improves.

Bonus points for the double-whippings from the whip and baton.  I love how many opportunities are not going missed in this game.

Sometime today it occurred to me that Furst's theme would make a passable substitute for the Final Jeopardy! theme - or the other way around.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 08, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
FUCK YOU YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD
Man imagine how much better this case would be if we actually went to court. :<
Franziska is the best thing, I've laughed out loud every episode now. And is von Jure about to pull a face turn? :o
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 08, 2013, 11:38:18 AM
"And your subordinate is named Dick."

However appropriate for the situation, that would never fly in a real translation.

Also, I'm writing this new arrival down as having the most bizarre set of personal gimmicks in the series.

@Shadoweh: 
Considering the implications of the keycard record it seems likely.  Though from a narrative PoV I don't really buy the emotional route the story's trying to take.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on August 08, 2013, 12:15:34 PM
Is it really that hard to explain to
Franny
the circumstances behind this mess?

For a turning point that was coming a mile away and was built up until now, that was some subpar execution, but sure.

I think this new dude is bizarre as well (not the good kind of).
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 08, 2013, 07:12:16 PM
Now we know where Furst got his derptardness from... GAWD THE BAKA RATE IS TOO DAMN HIGH WHACK THEM GOOD FRANNY!
Noooo Edgeworth why you... actually FUCK YEAH! He showed that committee that they can go fuck off!
 
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 08, 2013, 07:44:32 PM
uu:
If she is I agree it's out of place. The only way I can see it as believable is if it was just a 'test' or something. Which would still be dumb imo.
It still bothers me in general that Edgeworth's progression has been Top Shit to Behind The Scenes Calling Shots Cool Guy to 'plz let me in on ur investigations gais gais cmon ;-;'. I've complained about this already but as a prosecutor maybe he'd be more effective if instead of screaming I MUST FIND DA TRUFF he I don't know, used his influence to actually become the prosecutors on the cases, OR used the complete incompetence of the other side to up his own influence. I liked Edgeworth because he wasn't like Phoenix in having nothing but a twelve year old girl on his side.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 08, 2013, 10:33:20 PM
I basically have to agree.  This game seems more like a game with PW but with fewer court scenes and more "the forensics team worked really fast!" than a game about Miles Edgeworth.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 10, 2013, 03:46:53 AM
And more random cameos with no reason. :/ I thought Kay returning was random..
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 10, 2013, 04:56:21 PM
I liked our favorite
ineffective scientific investigator
. *pout*

Actually, this cameo will probably serve more of a purpose than Shi-Long Lang's in this game's Case 2 and AAI1's Case 4.  "Hi guys I exist; also my theme is awesome"

---

Also, dang that's a pretty rooftop.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 11, 2013, 04:00:30 AM
uu:
I like her too, she should have been Edgeworth's assistant from the start instead of Kay. It doesn't make her randomly showing up here any less jarring. This is coming from someone who likes Ema and wants her here! I guess it works if you assume Edgeworth has a stalker fanclub of young girls..

I thought Shi-Long Lang's cameo wasn't that bad, at least he had a reason to be there, he wasn't too intrusive, and he was gone right after, with foreshadowing that makes me interested to see him again later. AAI is bad for non-sequitor cameos.

Edit: SCIENCE! And this case just got really weird and self-referencing.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 11, 2013, 07:42:28 PM
For Shadoweh: 
Well, he does.  Edgeworth also has a stalker fanclub of psychotic old women as well.

Actually, that's an interesting foil between Edgeworth and Stalwart.  Stalwart wants everyone, and everyone wants Edgeworth.

---

Stalwart:  "Looks like we've got ourselves another cute assistant."

Stalwart speaks for all the marketing staff at Capcom.

---

Also, one thing that never fails to jar me every time I see it is that the translation calls the lawyer Atticus or "Atty".  Between the Atticus Finch reference and how "atty" is the abbreviation for "attorney" in law circles, it's just that good.   ...but you probably knew that.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 12, 2013, 02:33:49 AM
Looks more people from AAIT1 are coming back to see Edgeworth, and oh boy... sounds like the victim of Case 4 was a shady person selling off the evidence in an auction.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 16, 2013, 11:11:01 PM
I actually kind of like Ozzie.  Does that make me weird?

I am *immensely* disappointed in the lack of Jumpsuit Edgeworth spriting.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 16, 2013, 11:32:25 PM
Yes, that definitely makes you weird. Liking Cirnocutor and Ah! My Goddess is okay though.
This entire section is hilarious. What did you -think- was going to happen when you came down the elevator, Edgeworth? I HAVE NO REGRETS @_@
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on August 16, 2013, 11:59:38 PM
I am *immensely* disappointed in the lack of Jumpsuit Edgeworth spriting.
Well-arranged clothes make for a well-arranged heart, you know.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 17, 2013, 06:25:27 PM
OH shit! Edgeworth y u in jail?!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on August 19, 2013, 10:07:54 PM
>_>

So I'm waiting for the inevitable Red Trenchcoat -> "oh hey, you know who else is wearing a red trenchcoat?" reveal.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 19, 2013, 10:44:15 PM
>_>
So I'm waiting for the inevitable Red Trenchcoat -> "oh hey, you know who else is wearing a red trenchcoat?" reveal.
It's gonna be obvious who's wearing the red trenchcoat!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 20, 2013, 02:48:14 AM
Perhaps not surprisingly, Oswald's objection sounds like it comes from a chain-smoker.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 20, 2013, 03:00:53 AM
Perhaps not surprisingly, Oswald's objection sounds like it comes from a chain-smoker.
Maybe that's what that lighter is for?~
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 20, 2013, 07:50:37 AM
I AM THE OBJECTION THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 21, 2013, 08:36:08 PM
Something tells me that Von Jure knows something and is trying to hint Edgeworth to it.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on August 22, 2013, 01:18:45 AM
>Ms. Pill had a very important role during this incident!
>2) She was the victim.

audiblefacepalm.wav

Also another
great breakdown.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 22, 2013, 01:35:46 AM
I'M calling it now, Oswald is the culprit since it's obvious now the way he's reacting when Pill confessed about messing with the report!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 23, 2013, 11:31:14 PM
You gotta FLIP IT TURNWAYS
A couple people in the comments have noted that gameplaywise this isn't really a good case. We're being told everything that happened instead of discovering it in the investigative stage. The most important evidence piece wasn't even hinted until the middle of the trial.
The red raincoat, how were we suposed to figure out the doctor was in on it without that? I thought Grandma was the culprit for a bit though because of how weird their inclusion was.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on August 23, 2013, 11:32:55 PM
But I felt this way ever since case 3. This isn't new to me. The plot itself is weird too so really the only reason I still watch this daily is because I'm hooked to the franchise, not this game.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 24, 2013, 03:10:42 AM
Now I feel bad for Furst... for trying to defend Oswald although his efforts are vain due to the strong evidence and witnesses against him.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 25, 2013, 07:44:42 AM
Well I guess that's the end! Good case everyone! It had it's ups and downs but all's well that ends well!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on August 25, 2013, 07:47:20 AM
Mostly downs. The cast, I mean. They totally had downs.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on August 25, 2013, 03:16:16 PM
My thoughts on Raymond Furst.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=d696t3yALAY#t=40
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on August 27, 2013, 07:40:57 PM
Welp, so much for
President Not-China
.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 28, 2013, 01:26:39 AM
I'm sorry, did you just say
broken China
?

This first witness was not a callback I was expecting.

The prospect of there being an
Ultimate Mastermind
is actually fairly intriguing.  Going through the list of people who have been neither accused or culprit so far makes for fun metagaming, although my desperate personal wish is that in the end
the true evil genius behind this series of events will be Winston Payne
.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 28, 2013, 08:21:04 AM
I liked how with the first witness even Edgeworth comments that
she'd been completely forgotten. Yes, a reminder of Game 1 Case 3, that's what we ALL needed. Come to think of it, we've had Regina and Ron, so all the terrible case 3's are covered. AAI really gets the B-list of cameos. :< Except for a few seconds! "No special people there!"
Also my money is on boy Gojira being the mastermind. He looks like he's wearing a red raincoat too!

I can't wait to see what bullshit excuse Edgeworth gets for investigating THIS time! Special request from Interpol? De Killer holding Furst hostage? Just investingatin' because we can? Maybe Edgeworth will investigate with Atticus which would be the closest to reasonable!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 28, 2013, 02:24:29 PM
Welp the president got killed by a knockoff of Godzilla, good job.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 29, 2013, 01:31:06 AM
I liked
PW1 Case 3.
  Though I remember the game itself seemed set up to make this particular character less-than-memorable.

Also, Regina and Ron were PW3 Case 2.  That game's Case 3 was... tough to get through, even if we got taught the "Imbec?l" song midway through.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on August 29, 2013, 10:37:44 AM
Alright, you got me on Ron, but Regina is Game 2 Case 3. I don't remember what Game 3 Case 3 was... no.. wait.. oh god it's coming back NOOOOOOO! Seriously though, there's only one 'memorable' character from Game 1 Case 3, and we hear more then enough from her. Unless you count the creepy leetzor who haunts my nightmares.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on August 29, 2013, 10:43:17 AM
Will Powers shows up often enough as well. Anyway, third cases are hit-or-miss. PW:AA's was great, JFA's was ridiculous (fine otherwise), T&T's was forgettable, AJ:AA's was great also. AAI's was on the forgettable side but not as bad as T&T's. This game's is kind of like JFA's.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on August 29, 2013, 12:15:17 PM
Alright, you got me on Ron, but Regina is Game 2 Case 3. I don't remember what Game 3 Case 3 was... no.. wait.. oh god it's coming back NOOOOOOO! Seriously though, there's only one 'memorable' character from Game 1 Case 3, and we hear more then enough from her. Unless you count the creepy leetzor who haunts my nightmares.
Eh, right, I thought you referring to Ron's wife.  I really didn't need to be reminded of Regina or the circus music.  I'm pretty sure no one in the circus cast wins any favorite points, Simeon included.

I liked Dee Vasquez.  Oldbag, on the other hand, was only good in the first game.

The only thing I feel a need to remember about AJ:AA's Case 3 was that I could use the mixer on Guilty Love.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on August 29, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
The only thing I feel a need to remember about AJ:AA's Case 3 was that I could use the mixer on Guilty Love.[/spoiler]
Don't forget the magical disappearance act!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on September 07, 2013, 02:43:21 PM
Semi-necroposting to say that I approve of this character development for
Oswald.  m/
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 07, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
Okay, caught up again.  Been a busy week.

rofl raymond what are you doing
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 07, 2013, 03:43:28 PM
I like this Case it's getting more twisted and fun.
Frust what the fuck are doing in the garage???
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 07, 2013, 04:15:28 PM
cliffhangers why

raymond bondage why
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on September 08, 2013, 02:37:26 PM
I like the uploader's comment on the most recent video.

---

I have thoroughly destroyed this man's hopes and dreams, causing him pain I can't even imagine.  Checkmate.

Actually, this entire Logic Chess seems dedicated to tempting the player to insult Furst.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 08, 2013, 08:26:49 PM
CLIFFHANGERS

The uploading pace seems to be picking up.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on September 09, 2013, 02:07:41 AM
I approve of this turn of the case.  de Killer's means of expressing himself while keeping a perfectly straight face are awesome.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 09, 2013, 04:33:22 AM
Sup, Shelly de Killer?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on September 09, 2013, 10:37:36 PM
de Killer is overjoyed to see Edgeworth.  :|

The last case of the first AAI game was so complicated I'm not sure I ever fully understood it. 
This one is looking to be the same, although I appreciate the premise of all the villains trying to out-evil each other.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 09, 2013, 10:46:03 PM
The villain food chain is getting more bigger than the law allows.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 10, 2013, 01:49:02 PM
I suspect I know who the "true villain" might be, but I'll keep it to myself for now.

Time sure passes strangely in the world of Ace Attorney. <_<
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 10, 2013, 03:27:37 PM
The true villain, I have a feeling who it is too, but if it's who I think it is then wow...
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 10, 2013, 03:39:13 PM
I actually have NO candidates in mind so kudos to you. <_<

I mean it'd be really annoying if it's a character that has yet to be introduced but I don't know what else is there.

Like, it's the one who hired De Killer, right? To assassinate the president? I don't think we know someone with such a motive unless I'm confusing the facts.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 10, 2013, 05:49:29 PM
It's less a plot/character thing and more a process of elimination.

I'll detail my thoughts below.

1) I am excluding all characters from previous works from suspicion as a matter of course.  This means Fran, Regina, Will, Lotta, etc.

I am further excluding an "unknown third party", IE a character that has not introduced.  Because that would be really stupid at this juncture.

For characters included in this game, I am excluding from suspicion:

Marcus, since he's a kid and Von Jure's son on top of that

Stalwart, due to the strong ties to both Gregory Edgeworth and Miles

Lang, because that would be incredibly stupid

Either of the Fursts, for obvious reasons

Von Jure, because it's impossible for her to mock Edgeworth over the phone while court is in session

That leaves three people unaccounted for: Fang, Traill, and Harkens.  The former seems to be the most suspicious and did break out of jail recently.  Harkens is a little too convenient but I think she's too much of a comic relief character.  Plus she was right there when Edgeworth was talking to the villain.

So my guesses are down to Fang and Traill.  Fang's obviously really evil and that doesn't need to be expounded upon here, but why Traill?  He seems innocuous enough until you realize that he's the only person with strong connections to Knight, who oddly appears to be one of the focal points of this entire case.  He's the bodyguard of the President (who just died), his murder is the focus of the court case going on, we just found a bunch of Knight memorabilia in the safe, etc.  Why is he such a big deal?  His childhood friend Traill probably knows why, and thus I think he - at a minimum - knows more than he's letting on.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 12, 2013, 05:26:24 PM
Raymond standing up to his dad in court best thing ever. Sad though, that Oswald threw the evidence away and the only thing left was the bell.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on September 16, 2013, 11:10:49 PM
Lotta:  Well I don't put much stake in that logic thingamajig!

End of plot relevance.  Please.  Please Capcom.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 16, 2013, 11:17:15 PM
I wonder why Von Jure is hiding the rest of what she did with the president before he went splat?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 16, 2013, 11:23:44 PM
Probably more blackmail bullshit or similar. Honestly getting tired of it.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on September 17, 2013, 04:45:22 PM
I like the theory that Marcus Ward is actually Von Jure and the president's son. Considering he was assassinated I can see why she'd want to keep that on the down-low!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 17, 2013, 04:50:31 PM
I like the theory that Marcus Ward is actually Von Jure and the president's son. Considering he was assassinated I can see why she'd want to keep that on the down-low!
If this is true however then... all I have to say is...


My reaction. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdhhQhqi_AE)
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 17, 2013, 04:59:54 PM
I like the theory that Marcus Ward is actually Von Jure and the president's son. Considering he was assassinated I can see why she'd want to keep that on the down-low!
I don't know if you're joking but this is actually a cool theory, I mean Marcus is almost at the same age as that one past case that we don't know shit about yet?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on September 17, 2013, 05:03:31 PM
I'm not joking, though I thought it was a stupid theory until she brought the president flowers. He's too young for the 18-years ago case, but the 12-years ago case? Yeah I guess he is! I think Marcus is too old to be Von Jure's biological son, so maybe it's adoption.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 17, 2013, 05:05:29 PM
It would make sense that Marcus is Von Jure's adopted son if you want my honest opinion. But, if it's what Shadoweh said, then... CAN SOMEONE explain how is that possible!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Puffy on September 20, 2013, 01:03:18 PM

There IS an actual fan-made patch underway. To quote the wiki page: "A fan translation of Gyakuten Kenji 2, titled Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth: Prosecutor's Path, is in development. In October 2012, footage was posted online showing the intro to the game's first case, "Turnabout Target", translated into English. The translation patch of the first case was initially announced for a January 2013 release, however, due to extensive de-bugging and work on translating the second case, the release date is currently undetermined." To be frank, who knows when that'll happen.


The patch has actually been released now! In beta phase, only case 1 and 2 translated so far.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 20, 2013, 01:13:34 PM
The patch has actually been released now! In beta phase, only case 1 and 2 translated so far.
Oh, cool. I'm guessing the LP will finish first, though.

RE: this last upload

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

victory laughter
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 20, 2013, 03:04:07 PM
Marcus Ward, you are the president's son! DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on September 21, 2013, 05:38:43 PM
Double Murder Mobius Reacharound!
They mentioned earlier that the president has body doubles, didn't they? And that he was acting like a completely different person after the incident? The evidence was there to guess this. This case is pretty fun honestly!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 21, 2013, 09:18:17 PM
So then... the president got killed and the double body took his place?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 23, 2013, 02:53:14 PM
See, I knew who the mastermind was, I literally got spoiled by a thumbnail through gd youtube recommendations right after posting this. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15042.msg1018751.html#msg1018751) I was not happy.
It really is Traill.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 23, 2013, 11:29:57 PM
Wow, what the fuck.  They're really tying everything together.

Edit: And by the way...
Called it.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 24, 2013, 01:14:45 AM
I so
called it too.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ۞RemiliaFan۞ on September 24, 2013, 04:01:53 AM
The patch has actually been released now! In beta phase, only case 1 and 2 translated so far.
Wow! Although, I wonder why (at beta) 2 cases were only translated so far.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: N-Forza on September 24, 2013, 08:36:30 AM
Coding difficulties, from what I understand.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ۞RemiliaFan۞ on September 24, 2013, 09:03:18 AM
Coding difficulties, from what I understand.
Oh, that's why it will take ages to finish all of the cases ...
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 24, 2013, 02:36:01 PM
ahahaha god dammit

THERE WAS A HOT AIR BALLOON
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on September 24, 2013, 10:36:21 PM
See, the end of this update shows the difference between Wright and Edgeworth. 
PW hopes for miracles to run through the court doors.  Edgeworth sets up evidence strike missiles in advance.  This should be good.

I'm impressed with how thoroughly the game is tying itself together, overarching-plotwise.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on September 25, 2013, 03:29:11 AM
:/

I mean, it's good that they're tying everything together, but isn't this too convenient?
Ignoring how INCREDIBLY CONVENIENT it is that the orphans just happened to be the missing boys from the 18-year old incident, why would Fang tell us any of this? It's more Deus Ex Herestheevidence. I seriously shouted BULLSHIT when he said '18 years ago'.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 25, 2013, 04:16:24 AM
:/

I mean, it's good that they're tying everything together, but isn't this too convenient?
Ignoring how INCREDIBLY CONVENIENT it is that the orphans just happened to be the missing boys from the 18-year old incident, why would Fang tell us any of this? It's more Deus Ex Herestheevidence. I seriously shouted BULLSHIT when he said '18 years ago'.

Yeah, that was pretty silly.

But not as silly as
"Hey, go check Oswald's house (because they weren't checking it earlier for whatever reason)." ... "HEY BOSS WE FOUND THE CORPSE HE DUG UP IMMEDIATELY"
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on September 25, 2013, 05:02:58 AM
I'm imagining now, Fang has been following them this entire time and could have told them the whole thing, but decided not to because he's a dick.
"Oh by the way Mr. Edgeworth we found the dead president's bones in Oswald's house an hour ago! Should we have mentioned that?"
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 25, 2013, 04:37:58 PM
LMAO

DAT REVEAL
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 25, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
Plenty of cool things in this one.

The animal armrest is amazing and I already prefer this guy over most of the villains in this series.

The unneeded Ema Mechanics make another unneeded return.

Who was Traill talking about near the end (http://youtu.be/Dk5ffFiC31M?t=17m9s)?

Atticus had me cracking up, was sure he was going to be useful again only for him to go "haha stalling for time".
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on September 26, 2013, 02:25:06 AM
That Emappearance was... horribly tacked on.  "Hey guys, just making sure you're not playing on a cheap emulator!"

Also, this is... different, insofar as major evil goes.  I don't think I've ever tried to merge the notions of "Unthinkably bitter and calculating chessmaster" and "juggling squirrels".  With that face paint, I expect this to end with Edgeworth putting him on a red couch and getting him to open up about how he feels.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 26, 2013, 03:48:19 AM
Simon should write his own how to be an evil mastermind book. Also dem faces and armrest. Say what?
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on September 26, 2013, 05:38:37 AM
Trail's laugh face is the best face. He looks like he's about to bite Edgeworth's head off. Or suddenly have a seven foot tongue.. As much as I am grumpy about this case, Trail is amazing. And after the really complicated chess minigame, the HERE'S A FINGERPRINT NOW BLOW ON IT feels like a slap to the face.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 26, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
Man, that was the most pointless "reveal" ever.

"Knight's dad killed my dad!"

"... actually, your dad killed Knight's dad.  You are really the other guy's son."

"Oh."
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 27, 2013, 12:05:43 AM
Man, that was the most pointless "reveal" ever.

"Knight's dad killed my dad!"

"... actually, your dad killed Knight's dad.  You are really the other guy's son."

"Oh."
And they already figured that Simeon was Gus's son so WHY THE FUCK PARROT IT AGAIN oh... derp.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on September 27, 2013, 12:57:03 AM
Traill:  Oh.  I guess it was me.
Traill:  .__________.
Traill:  But I'm actually the victim here! 
Edgeworth:  You are NOT the father son!  *Guile's theme plays* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1iqJqNHX_g)
Traill:  .__________.
Traill:  ...But I still haven't killed anyone!  Murder is the only thing we really press charges over in this country (unless you're Ron Delite)!
Kay:  It's not too late, you know!
Traill:  Would anyone mind if the pedo attorney died a horrible death?
Edgeworth:  Mmm... Please try for one of the two reporters.

There seriously has to be more to this.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 27, 2013, 01:06:00 AM
Traill:  Oh.  I guess it was me.
Traill:  .__________.
Traill:  But I'm actually the victim here! 
Edgeworth:  You are NOT the father son!  *Guile's theme plays* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1iqJqNHX_g)
Traill:  .__________.
Traill:  ...But I still haven't killed anyone!  Murder is the only thing we really press charges over in this country (unless you're Ron Delite)!
Kay:  It's not too late, you know!
Traill:  Would anyone mind if the pedo attorney died a horrible death?
Edgeworth:  Mmm... Please try for one of the two reporters.

There seriously has to be more to this.
This I would approve. XD
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on September 27, 2013, 01:37:46 AM
There's only one death left, so he probably killed the fake president. We have like.. no evidence it was him but maybe it'll be delayed in the mail!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 27, 2013, 02:25:31 AM
There's only one death left, so he probably killed the fake president. We have like.. no evidence it was him but maybe it'll be delayed in the mail!

rrrrrofl
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ۞RemiliaFan۞ on September 27, 2013, 04:27:21 AM
rrrrrofl
ROFL indeed. XD

Wonder why.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: MewMewHeart on September 28, 2013, 02:40:30 AM
There's only one death left, so he probably killed the fake president. We have like.. no evidence it was him but maybe it'll be delayed in the mail!
Best mail ever. XD
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 30, 2013, 12:19:41 AM
So! I feel like a lot of things in this case are weird and fall apart if you think about it too hard so I'm not going to do that. The Final Confrontation was really short this time but that's fine with me. One thing that did annoy me was the minor character overload. I also felt like Gumshoe didn't get nearly enough focus if they wanted to go for a sort of character development thing. It was like, "hey right, it's Gumshoe, literally forgot about the dude and whatever is going on in his head" and this is coming from a Gumshoe fan.

Let's see how they wrap things up though I think we can start summarizing at this point.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Shadoweh on September 30, 2013, 05:02:56 AM
HOLY SHIT GUMSHOE GETS A RAISE! HAPPY END!

The ending did feel a little anti-climatic. Like, they said pollen, and it felt like.. that's it? It's over? No bullet in his insert area, no secret wound, the last bad guy ALWAYS has a secret wound! The expected showdown was a little short too, but at least that's understandable, it's not like they wanted to stick around. All in all it was an interesting game. Maybe they were overcompensating for the.. extended ending to the last game? MY EXTRATERRITORIAL RIGHTS ARE TOO POWERFUL TO LET THIS GAME END!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on September 30, 2013, 08:56:08 AM
Maaaan, was Edgeworth thinking about having a family near the end? Now I totally want baby prosecutors everywhere.

Despite everything this game would probably have been more fun to play through than the first. Probably. At least I'm left with that impression right now.

Quote from: dowolf
Four months.
312k words.
160 videos.
32 hours.
5 cases.
1 Miles Edgeworth.
And this guy. Did he really do this alone? It's really mind-blowing.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on September 30, 2013, 02:14:26 PM
So! I feel like a lot of things in this case are weird and fall apart if you think about it too hard so I'm not going to do that.

This is more or less true of every case in the series, so <_<
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: ?q on September 30, 2013, 10:22:21 PM
HOLY SHIT GUMSHOE GETS A RAISE! HAPPY END!
It's like the entire series was leading to this moment.

Quote from: Shadoweh
The ending did feel a little anti-climatic. Like, they said pollen, and it felt like.. that's it? It's over? No bullet in his insert area, no secret wound, the last bad guy ALWAYS has a secret wound! The expected showdown was a little short too, but at least that's understandable, it's not like they wanted to stick around. All in all it was an interesting game. Maybe they were overcompensating for the.. extended ending to the last game? MY EXTRATERRITORIAL RIGHTS ARE TOO POWERFUL TO LET THIS GAME END!
That was kind of what I wanted to say when BT mentioned the minor character overload in this case.  In AAI's last case it's like every last person individually gets a chance to present evidence against the bad guy.

This time around, it was more like
"...bah, screw it.  Yes, I really -did- do it.  Let me be smug about how you can't do anything about it."
  The last confrontation could have probably dragged out a lot longer than it did.

Quote from: BT
Maaaan, was Edgeworth thinking about having a family near the end? Now I totally want baby prosecutors everywhere.
Most of the overtones in the last update were homoerotic, I'm sure <_<

Also, dat PW-baiting.  They very deliberately missed a chance to include his voice clip.

Quote from: BT
And this guy. Did he really do this alone? It's really mind-blowing.
That's right.  Somewhere in the comments, he said that he considered working on the translation project, but by doing it all himself he had 100% creative license.  Seems worth it.

I kind of agree with BT.   This would probably be more fun than AAI, but all of that spoon-feeding meant that the player interactions were more a break from reading than a decision to be made.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Conqueror on September 30, 2013, 11:35:23 PM
Finally finished AAI so I'll be starting on this now. Looks like the translation here just finished so that works nicely!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 05:03:37 PM
not directly related but ACE ATTORNEY FIVE DEMO IN THE NINTENDO 3DS ESHOP RIGHT NOW GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 05:12:55 PM
One skillup :v
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 05:16:21 PM
You skilled up your Phoenix Wright? :V
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 05:17:11 PM
Oh my god wrong thread why ;_;
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: BT on October 01, 2013, 07:32:21 PM
not directly related but ACE ATTORNEY FIVE DEMO IN THE NINTENDO 3DS ESHOP RIGHT NOW GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT GET IT
Related to unrelated things: voice acting. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oCE9plu_GA)
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 07:49:24 PM
Related to unrelated things: voice acting. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oCE9plu_GA)
(http://i.imgur.com/0QMsia4.gif)
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations II - A Following
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 09:13:10 PM
>at the very end of the demo is a
very brief shot of Edgeworth

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

also Pearl... but no Maya? :o