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Fire Emblem Heroes launched in North America earlier after a bit of a delay. I've pretty much been playing it nonstop since then.
So far I'm reasonably impressed with it. It's simplified, but not by as much as I was expecting. And the low movement values add an interesting element to the strategy. You need to really plan things out to actually get your whole team in on the action at the same time.
No Camilla yet, but I'm still searching. Right now my main team is Florina, Cherche, Gaius, and Setsuna, although I'm thinking maybe I should squeeze Gunter in there because his leadership ability seems amazing. Might replace Setsuna, I don't know.
My ID is 0770987225. Look me up if you like!
Get them IDs!
commandercool: 077-098-7225
Chirei: 900-866-0695
qMyon: 494-024-7741
Third Eye Lem: 854-754-1745
Chaore: 262-833-4620
Hikari: 049-654-7273
Starlighthawk: 223-892-3343
MewMewHeart: 155-114-5345
Conqueror: 370-962-7825
BT: 277-306-6244
Mea: 570-511-9614
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Kasu: 212-356-2968
jq1790: 671-647-3912
Dibble: 116-745-1638
Sect: 226-197-2323
Buggy: 004-923-0915
PX: 703-325-8992
Garlyle: 436-562-9087
theshirn: 551-901-2310
Zengar Zombolt: 425-089-2478
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Kogachii: 137-592-8428
aUsernameIsFineToo: 414-805-9868
Zerviscos: 204-925-9306
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http://appmedia.jp/fe-heroes-wiki/617262
Tier list for rerollers, I managed to get myself a Lucina pretty quickly
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I thought about rerolling for Camilla, but my luck is awful so I'd rather just jump into the game and assume I'll pick her up eventually.
Having pretty good luck in the arena so far. Although I had one game where the AI made a really questionable move, so I think the odds may be stacked in my favor...
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I'm still dying about how someone tried to make a tier list, an hour into release, that contained a character that wasn't in game yet (Ike).
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i'm just sitting over here being hipster as usual
900-866-0695
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I'm still dying about how someone tried to make a tier list, an hour into release, that contained a character that wasn't in game yet (Ike).
Kind of like the Pokemon Sun/Moon tier list that's been floating around the internet that's just A: legendary, B: fully evolved, C: second stage evolution, D: first stage evolution. ::)
Looks like 5* is the cap and you can upgrade any unit to 5*, am I seeing that right? Gonna have to experiment with that. I wonder how viable the non-chases are. That definitely seems like a great way to fuck up a game like this, make the chases very rare (which they are, currently) and make them absolutely required. But if other stuff can be upgraded to competitive levels with some effort then that opens things up a lot.
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The lack of Tellius games angers me still
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I need to stop picking up mobages......
My ID's 6505141877. Didn't bother rerolling, but have a fair bunch of 4-stars and a Jeorge.
Rerolled and picked up something better after all.
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Kind of like the Pokemon Sun/Moon tier list that's been floating around the internet that's just A: legendary, B: fully evolved, C: second stage evolution, D: first stage evolution. ::)
Looks like 5* is the cap and you can upgrade any unit to 5*, am I seeing that right? Gonna have to experiment with that. I wonder how viable the non-chases are. That definitely seems like a great way to fuck up a game like this, make the chases very rare (which they are, currently) and make them absolutely required. But if other stuff can be upgraded to competitive levels with some effort then that opens things up a lot.
going from 4* to 5* apparently costs 20,000 hero feathers so yeah uhh good luck
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going from 4* to 5* apparently costs 20,000 hero feathers so yeah uhh good luck
Lolwhat holy shit.
Okay then.
Edit: How many arena battles does it take to find an enemy team that's entirely 5* characters? Six. Turns out it was six battles. I lost. :c
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First pack gave me a 3* and 4* of the same character whoops. Ah well.
Shuffling characters around a bit but for now I'm using Sophia/Virion/Frederick/Wrys.
Looking forward to making Wrys able to bash peoples' faces in, haha.
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Ah good, someone made a thread already. I suggest we compile our IDs so we can rack up those Hero Feathers. Mine's 854-754-1745, and I'm currently using Takumi, Female Corrin, FEH!Anna and Alphonse.
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I don't know how I should be rolling in this game. Continually rolling in the same spot gives me cheaper returns but not much variety...
So just to see how it was, I tried rolling once and got a marth. Is that good? I think 5 stars was best rarity but now its asking me if I want to roll again and not sure if I should or go for diversity this early on.
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I'm not sure what you mean. Continuing to roll should give you better diversity. The different colored stones you can pick are different types of characters, so getting all five available stones should generally give you decent variety at a bit of a discount, as opposed to only picking the stones of one type and then rerolling.
Seems like going for a wide variety of characters early on is probably the best call.
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Ohh I see, I thought it would restrict you to that one orb, but you get to pick from one of the other orbs now ok I get it. Mis the understood that the
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Strongly considering rerolling for Camilla before I get too far along. Anyone have any idea what the rates for that sort of thing are?
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Strongly considering rerolling for Camilla before I get too far along. Anyone have any idea what the rates for that sort of thing are?
tons of people have camilla it seems so i'd say maybe 10 rerolls
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There seems to be eight 5 star greens and if I assume that they are split in half between the two sets, that should be like four 5 star greens including camilla in the set. Not sure if this is representative of actual rates, but I spent stones on four rolls (didn't have enough for a fifth) and got two 5 stars and two 4 stars. Let's take a positive guess and assume the odds are 1 in 5 for obtaining a 5 star star. So that would be about 1/4 * 1/5 = 1/20 then I think? If we be more optimistic and assume 2 in 5 odds of rolling a 5 star, then we'd get a 1/10 probability, supporting chirei's estimate.
edit: I forgot that there's such a thing as a 4 star camilla. If we assume also 2 in 5 odds of rolling a 4 star, then out of fifteen total 4 star greens, divide by 2 to get the right set, so 2/5 * 2/15 = 0.0533. Add to original to get about a 15% chance of getting any camilla.
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Decided to spend some time rerolling after all, and picked up this roll instead. Probably a bit better. Now to figure out what duplicates do.
User ID for this one is 4940247741.
Edit: And Camilla drops in for the next 5 rolls. Great start.
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Decided to spend some time rerolling after all, and picked up this roll instead. Probably a bit better. Now to figure out what duplicates do.
merge for increased cap+stat bonus iirc, rarity matters, unno about level
also pro-tip you can see a unit's full skill list if you click the skill list button at the bottom of their profile, regardless of rarity, while you only see current from learn skill
id is 262 833 4620, i got lucky and rolled leo+minerva in 9 rolls
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Oof, didn't realize the gacha filters were a temporary event thing. Brb, deleting account and savescumming Camilla. Hopefully this doesn't take TOO long.
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3% to get a 5 Star, 3% to get one of the focus 5 stars, increases by .5% for every 5 rolls you don't see a 5stars
Source: the game
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What's a "focus five-star"?
Also I guess I should ask, is there a faster way to do this than deleting my account every time and redownloading everything?
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You might try going into the storage settings and find the list of apps and click the clear data button, I know that works with that one pokemon statue game thing out right now. If that doesn't work I'd assume you can still go in and delete some of the data .bin files using a program or an app that can do that like you'd do with pad rerolling.
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Focus 5 stars are the characters shown when you select your scout. You can see all this by just clicking the info button on the scout page
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(http://i.imgur.com/lokvZNK.jpg)
OH SHIIIIT!
Took three rerolls.
I really was just trying to get the 4* version but... I'll take it!
Friend code updated in the OP for my new account. I'll send requests to everyone on the list later, so if you're already friends with me please delete the old account and accept the new one if you like.
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Wait so these filter things (the sets?) are a temporary thing? Are these the gf of this game? Does that mean I should try to roll whenever I get 20 stones in the bank?
I feel so nooby.
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The prompts this morning seemed to suggest they're part of the launch event, so they won't always be there. Sounds like a godfest equivalent, yeah.
Unless you're saving for castle upgrades or something I don't think we're aware of a reason not to spend all your stones in batches of 20.
I got all excited earlier because I got a four-star Donnel, but it turns out his role (Brave Lance poker) is pretty similar to Camilla's and I'm not sure my team has room for two glass cannons. Trying to build like a hyper-offense team with the two of them, Gunter to buff their attack further, and Saizo to AOE debuff enemy defenses, but I'm not sure if it's anything yet.
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0496547273
I have no friends :V
But yeah, I keep rolling, and rolling, and rolling, and I get nothing.
And then I see stuff like
(https://i.redd.it/32wzybzv5jdy.png)
And I cry
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ID: 2238923343
Rerolled all night to get Lyn, got 3 5* Roys and 2 4* Camillas in the process.
Worth tho.
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I'll give you all my ID when I get the right rolls so I'm only getting 3 and 4 stars.
Edit: My Id - 155-114-5345
I got Roy and Sakura as 5 stars 2 Lissas (on being 4 and the other 3), and Est 3 star.
I am fine with this.
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either they jack up the rates for the first roll real high or I hit a lucky star in the forehead that time because this time I only got fours and threes. Now that's more like the true mobage experience :V
Where's even the id/friend things?
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>get to the map with zephiel and the million big ass knights
>marth died to retribution
>sharena gets one-rounded by WTA
>hawkeye goes out in a blaze of glory and only zephiel is left
>WHEN YOU FUCKIN CLUTCH IT OUT WITH JUST ONE UNIT
(http://i.imgur.com/HuqPqSx.png)
maid mvp
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The lack of Tellius games angers me still
That's lame, where's my Mia?
going from 4* to 5* apparently costs 20,000 hero feathers so yeah uhh good luck
How are we expected to farm up feathers, do they drop anywhere.
ID is 3709627825, but considering rerolling for a 5* if I don't get anything for my 3rd 20 stone roll.
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How are we expected to farm up feathers, do they drop anywhere.
as of now the only way to get any notable amount of feathers are these two ways:
1) git gud in the arena battles
2) throw obscene amounts of money at the game and sell tons of 5* (1000 feathers each)
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sasuga gacha game
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sasuga gacha game
fwiw games typically lax on stuff like this over time so i'd say just play and try for modest rewards, and eventually you'll get there, I think i'm going to end up with like 2k-3k feathers when this week ends if my arena progress stays constant.
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Are arena opponents that easy to deal with? I've just been facing the easiest opponent each time because I was trying to keep the chain bonus.
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Are arena opponents that easy to deal with? I've just been facing the easiest opponent each time because I was trying to keep the chain bonus.
I swap between beginner/intermediate for that too, apparently the chain bonus just all goes away if you die and it's a very significant chunk.
iirc they're all AI controlled so the more you understand how the AI acts in this game the better off you are
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I've only been playing arena on the hardest difficulty and there's definitely something weird going on. Like, the AI is pretty dumb, but enemy five-stars are insanely powerful. Seemingly much more so than the one on my team.
Three of the four opponents will go down easy and then Camilla will only be able to hit the last one for a couple of points of damage, even if they're a mage or a dancer or something. Definitely fishy. I can win like 75% of battles by just being not an idiot, but sometimes the enemy stats are just inexplicably insurmountable on one character.
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People seem to be making arena teams that are three low-level garbage and one facesmasher, which then smashes faces. Kind of annoying.
5-start Tiki is carrying my team so far.
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I've only been playing arena on the hardest difficulty and there's definitely something weird going on. Like, the AI is pretty dumb, but enemy five-stars are insanely powerful. Seemingly much more so than the one on my team.
Three of the four opponents will go down easy and then Camilla will only be able to hit the last one for a couple of points of damage, even if they're a mage or a dancer or something. Definitely fishy. I can win like 75% of battles by just being not an idiot, but sometimes the enemy stats are just inexplicably insurmountable on one character.
This is why I have debuffers and such on my team so I can sort of circumvent it, though I've not tried an arena battle on the hardest difficulty yet since I don't want to get ganked out of my 6/7 chain.
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I've got a ninja as well and it sirt of helps, but one of the two losses I've gotten so far was just being surprised by the fact that the enemy dancer could one-shot my entire team and had ridiculous defense. Had I realized that earlier I may have been able to debuff more effectively.
The other loss was to a team with four five-stars before I had any, and I *barely* lost that one. Had I played a bit better and maybe gotten a less unfavorable map I could have won that.
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Second set of 20 stones cashed in.
(http://i.imgur.com/9gzHRDE.jpg)
DAAAANG FIRE EMBLEM.
I'll admit I have no idea who Sheena is and Takumi is worst brother, but what the fuck! I'll take this blind luck.
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Takumi is worst brother
dont let him hear you he will set your hair on fire
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dont let him hear you he will set your hair on fire
That's okay, I own him. He can't even. I summoned him, didn't I?
Plus I got Camilla to protect me. Nevermind that she's weak to his weapon...
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That's okay, I own him. He can't even. I summoned him, didn't I?
Plus I got Camilla to protect me. Nevermind that she's weak to his weapon...
in my completely canon universe I married them so they share stuff, and therefore shared ownership of you is transferred to him
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Ah, shit, I was looking for this thread earlier.
ID: 2773066244
I had a 4 orb roll, then a 5 orb roll and then a 5 orb roll, and all I got was this lousy shirt. I mean, these guys:
4* Lissa
4* Effie
4* Sheena
4* Setsuna
4* MCorrin
Healers are so good, man, especially in earlygame when skills are barely relevant. Lissa carried me hard, and healing always gives you EXP regardless of enemy level, so you can sit there and grind for EXP as long as one of your units can sustain damage.* Effie hits really really hard. Corrin is a keeper too.
I'm trying to level up all my units and rushing the story mode for orbs. The endgame seems to be to get a bunch of duplicates of the same character to 5* and then merge them. Right now I'm trying to figure out which of my units are the best, then grind them in the Training Tower. Still not good enough for the 6th Stratum.
* EXP gains go down as the battle lasts, so there's a limit.
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There it is found it, my ID is 570-511-9614
And I must have not gotten marth hit at all until now because I accidentally met his warp hp threshold and ohoho woww I can see this being really useful. Did NOT think that I would still be able to take an action after warp moving.
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I got the 5* Camilla on my first set of rolls ever
is she worth
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There it is found it, my ID is 570-511-9614
And I must have not gotten marth hit at all until now because I accidentally met his warp hp threshold and ohoho woww I can see this being really useful. Did NOT think that I would still be able to take an action after warp moving.
Yeah I just had an enemy Hector use that on me. Seems REALLY good. I got the 5* Camilla on my first set of rolls ever
is she worth
Best waifu, so... Yes?
Yeah, Camilla is very very good I think. I only have a sample size of one, but mine has very low stats for a five-star, but excellent abilities. She's a bruiser for sure. Can get up to four hits per attack pretty consistently, and she actually has a considerably buffed version of Savage Blow that still works reasonably well for softening teams up. As far as I know she's the strongest brave weapon wielder in the game and brave weapons are definitely worth having, so yeah... She's good.
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I got the 5* Camilla on my first set of rolls ever
is she worth
yes
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the advantage of a really tiny map is that you can box people the fuck in super easy for easy newbie grinding
(http://i.imgur.com/J5mY5AA.png)
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>tfw you don't have any orbs or money to reroll
Friend Code: 952-129-8226
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I got the 5* Camilla on my first set of rolls ever
is she worth
She's the only Axe user worth grabbing for now
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2123562968 here.
Don't mind me, just sitting here with my one 4* (male Robin), along with a ton of 2* and 3* characters.
At least I've got Tiki and Henry. ;>;
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Matsy: Kill stuff with her and stuff around the corpse explodes. Promises to be interesting. Coming with a Brave Axe is a nice bonus since her Atk is so high naturally.
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>tfw you don't have any orbs or money to reroll
Friend Code: 952-129-8226
Don't need orbs or money to reroll. Just delete your account. All it takes is time. And you can be doing other stuff throughout 95% of it. I virtually rolled Camilla in my sleep (which is to say, got to the big data download, went to sleep, woke up a while later and did my rolls, deleted and went to sleep again while everything redownloaded).
She's the only Axe user worth grabbing for now
Is Sheena no good? The 1 move is obviously really detrimental, but giving your team +6 defenses seems super valuable.
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Don't need orbs or money to reroll. Just delete your account. All it takes is time. And you can be doing other stuff throughout 95% of it. I virtually rolled Camilla in my sleep (which is to say, got to the big data download, went to sleep, woke up a while later and did my rolls, deleted and went to sleep again while everything redownloaded).
Is it really worth deleting your account just for a reroll?
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Sure, if you're early enough along and don't mind wasting some time. I deleted my first day's worth of progress to reroll for Camilla, was worth. But if you don't feel like it it's probably not gonna kill you.
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Like many mobile games people will say "reroll." I say it's entirely unnecessary and you can make anything you get work almost as long as you have some semblance of balance among your team to cover the different situations you might run into. Have a couple good units of each color, some colorless ones, make sure you have a healer if you might be in it for the long haul during a given map(especially since they can fight in this game if you teach them how; pretty decently at that) and go to town.
EDIT: Oh right. ID. 6716473912. Camilla's my only 5* but I don't really use her because I find myself wanting to use my other units more. Still trying to decide on a focus for my team but I do know a couple of ones I wanna raise up since I like their passives a lot.
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okay yeah no camilla is a motherfuckin beast hot damn
Current team:
Camilla, Reigh, Azura, Clarine
Can't wait until I get some more solid units!
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for anyone who is sticking with their account (one time only, so worthless for rerolls) you can get 10 free orbs by linking your nintendo account and then clicking fountain --> shield --> Claim 10 orbs.
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I got a 5* Lyn and a 4* Roy. Though... I don't know anything about what's what or not.
Is it worth? Rerolling seems fast enough.
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I got a 5* Lyn and a 4* Roy. Though... I don't know anything about what's what or not.
Is it worth? Rerolling seems fast enough.
Eh, probably fine. Seems like 5*s are good. Lyn is cool as hell, I have no fucking clue what she does in this game but she's a swell lady. Keep it! Unless there's something else you really want.
Also brb, linking Nintendo account...
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for anyone who is sticking with their account (one time only, so worthless for rerolls) you can get 10 free orbs by linking your nintendo account and then clicking fountain --> shield --> Claim 10 orbs.
why was i putting this off
e: with the pulls gotten from the additional 10 stones, a camille get!!
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Camilla + Azure is such a fun combo. Send Camilla to brutalize one unit, and then have Azure sing to her so she can beat down another!
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I'm not gonna reroll, but I'm STILL considering it at the back of my head after 2 days of effort put into the game. That's how far away 5* units are. Baaaa.
I really hope they made the characters you can instantly get at 5* (Marth, etc.) worse, in the long run, than the ones you have to grind to 5*, like Fir. I'm not hopeful, though!
Is Sheena no good? The 1 move is obviously really detrimental, but giving your team +6 defenses seems super valuable.
The +6/+6 is for armorknights only. Which still seems really good, but Sheena herself is a pushover.
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I'm not the most dedicated mobage player, but we'll see where this goes. The more friend bonuses the better!
ID is 1167451638
I never reroll in these games, so I'm happy I got Lyn on my second time using the gacha since I wanted her the most cause Lyn is cool. She's my only five star though, but the 4-star Catria I got from my initial rolls has been quite useful.
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Bought some orbs and got some nice 4 star units some with armor killing weapons and Fir with a Killing Edge.
Edit: Also Commander your Camilla came by and said hi to me.
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ID: 2261972323
My only Hero of note is 5* Corrin, who I stuck with because I was tired of rerolling for Lyn.
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I got 5* Roy and Corrin in a reroll today.
Today is a good day. (also corrin keeps stealing xp stahp)
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I got a duplicate 5* Lyn.
She seems really good. Galeforce, brave effect at <50% HP, boosted attack at low HP, Sol Katti having 16 flipping attack. But is it worth being at critical HP to get the most out of her?
Heck if I know.
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I really hope they made the characters you can instantly get at 5* (Marth, etc.) worse, in the long run, than the ones you have to grind to 5*, like Fir. I'm not hopeful, though!
The opposite tends to be true in games like this. Chase rares already come out strong and only continue to get better while the chaff units will rarely, if ever, come close.
Never forget that mobage exist to make money, so they need to make the bait appealing enough for people to shell out the cash on.
Be prepared for the metagame to be filled with people who lucked into or spent lots of money on those units.
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Be prepared for the metagame to be filled with people who lucked into or spent lots of money on those units.
it already is, have you tried arena battle
last night I couldn't find a team with less than 3 5*, when the days before that i'd be lucky to even see one
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It's interesting that the game that has no limitations on fielding units (FEH) is the one with PVP while the game with limitations (FGO) doesn't have PVP. Ah well.
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since I am Fire Emblem fanboy I really hype for this game and really addict to it right now and waiting for furthur update since I cleared all of story quest and here 's my ID
0049230915
feel free to add me !! my leader unit right now is merric
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After farming up enough to do my 4th 20-roll I was rewarded by the RNG gods who proceeded to use up all my luck for the forseeable future. I wanted Lyn or Lucina from the start so this makes me really happy.
My current 4*/3* team was doing good work though so I'll be sad to replace them. Still keeping Clarine though because healing OP.
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ID: 7033258992
Current team
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C32nD-lUYAA54VK.jpg)
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4365629087 or something
Went full Based RNG and decided not to reroll, so we'll see what comes of it. (Seems so far to be lots of 4*s and a 5* Lyn)
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Well, I got my arena score to just a bit under the maximum. I think I'm two tiers below the top? Did one battle on the hardest difficulty and the rest of my seven wins on intermediate. And it helped that I just happened to have a few of the characters who give bonus points right now. So that's a start for my feather collection...
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what's wrong robin
(http://i.imgur.com/N8RpSk3.png) (http://i.imgur.com/QqFyiKX.png)
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Well damn. Now that I've got a 4* Camilla I can see why people were looking for her. Setsuna's pretty good too from the look of things.
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Chirei, the heck did you DO to him?
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Chirei, the heck did you DO to him?
i cleaned him up
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also 5519012310 or something
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I need a solid lance user. Preferably one with three move. My axe-heavy team is kind of a problem since the metagame is 80% swords. Although Worst Brother is more than pulling his weight in gobbling up Roys and Lucinas.
My team right now is Camilla/Sheena/Takumi/Serra, and it's working okay. Sheena isn't the best but I don't really have anything I like over her right now. A solid four-star cavalier could probably replace her, but I don't have one.
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... please give any axe user. I've received so many silver lances, and Lyn can only do so much.
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i got a horrible awakening when i took a look to see what i have to do to "unlock potential" with azama aka best healer
3000 feathers
i only have 30
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i got a horrible awakening when i took a look to see what i have to do to "unlock potential" with azama aka best healer
3000 feathers
i only have 30
Yeah. Don't even look at what it takes to boost a 4* to a 5* unit.
Point being, the real limiter/long term goal in this game is going to prove pretty quickly (IMO) to be feather gathering; not EXP or anything else.
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http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-heroes-data-miners-find-christmas-themed-images-of-tharja-and-robin/ (http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-heroes-data-miners-find-christmas-themed-images-of-tharja-and-robin/) found something )really interesting so.... some dataminer found pic of Tharja and Robin in christmas outfit that mean FE heroes suppose to realease around christmas last year but delay until febuary this year for some reason...
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The upside is that you can get 1000+ feathers fairly easily-ish from the arena. Who knows how quickly the arena meta will become complete locked down to only top-tier, maxed out stuff*, but for now it's not THAT difficult to rack up decent points by fishing for a win on a hard difficulty and then padding out your streak with easier wins. I don't know how long arena seasons will be, but this one was only a few days, so if they're a week-ish feathers should rack up quickly. Even getting to that 20k won't be THAT hard if the seasons are short enough.
*Does anyone know how arena matchmaking works? My guys are level ~27 and I never see enemy teams that are THAT much higher or lower than me. Does it match similarly-leveled people, is that just where most people are in the game at this point, or does it adjust enemy levels?
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Decided to cave in and make space for this, ahaha. 4250892478, managed to snag our boy Roy to begin.
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The upside is that you can get 1000+ feathers fairly easily-ish from the arena. Who knows how quickly the arena meta will become complete locked down to only top-tier, maxed out stuff*, but for now it's not THAT difficult to rack up decent points by fishing for a win on a hard difficulty and then padding out your streak with easier wins. I don't know how long arena seasons will be, but this one was only a few days, so if they're a week-ish feathers should rack up quickly. Even getting to that 20k won't be THAT hard if the seasons are short enough.
*Does anyone know how arena matchmaking works? My guys are level ~27 and I never see enemy teams that are THAT much higher or lower than me. Does it match similarly-leveled people, is that just where most people are in the game at this point, or does it adjust enemy levels?
It seems to match to level, i've been fighting 30~40 people and it is not fun. I wonder how much easier it would be if you just tried to play lowbie teams...
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Oof, that seems like an abusive whale strategy actually. Grind out as many skill points as possible while leveling as little as possible by fusing duplicates and play some kind of minmaxed lowball team. Hmm. Wonder if that works.
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Oof, that seems like an abusive whale strategy actually. Grind out as many skill points as possible while leveling as little as possible by fusing duplicates and play some kind of minmaxed lowball team. Hmm. Wonder if that works.
I'm also unsure, but the levels of the team may also contribute to how many points you get for beginner/int/adv anyway so if you want the big points you gotta fight with all 40/40/40/40
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Oof, that seems like an abusive whale strategy actually. Grind out as many skill points as possible while leveling as little as possible by fusing duplicates and play some kind of minmaxed lowball team. Hmm. Wonder if that works.
abusive whale strategy is just send home a billion heroes so you eventually get 20k+ feathers
people have already done it
oh here's my ID by the way: 9 677 955 526 (AzakaCross)
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Got a 5* Camilla from my third draw, everything explodes now.
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Forgot I could upgrade my castle for a while there so I just dropped a bunch of stones on it, and... Man, watching all those stones bleed away hurt. Still got at least one more stage to go (the ten-stone one, don't know if it goes above that). I want to get cool new characters, not change the carpet! But it does seem handy to have boosted experience, so FINE. :V
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I've done a few of those myself; figure it's a rough investment NOW, but it'll pay in dividends with the massive amount of time it'll save when I'm finally trying to 40/40/40/40 my teams.
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ok im done back to pad until the game updates with something interesting
(http://i.imgur.com/r7EVZ17.png)
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Didn't notice this thread until now, so here you go!! My ID :3
1375928428
I really want to get Abel or Roy anytime soon ;3;)/
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I've been dicking around with Caeda, Catria, Subaki, and Florina, with Caeda boosting the defense and resistance of flying units by 6 each turn. But with three lances and one sword, you know what would be really cool on this crew?
Camilla. Ugh.
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I've been dicking around with Caeda, Catria, Subaki, and Florina, with Caeda boosting the defense and resistance of flying units by 6 each turn. But with three lances and one sword, you know what would be really cool on this crew?
Camilla. Ugh.
Caeda, Catria
ugh you
all of the death glares
I want a team of Sheeda Catria Lucina and Hector the blue haired babes
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If it helps any, they're all 4* units. :C
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It's day 3 and people are already talking about getting 40/40/40/40 :ohdear:
Suddenly addiction.
But yeah, I decided to do an Advanced duel and ended up with this:
(http://imgur.com/2hXOoI9.png)
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https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_JP/status/828141110451134470 (https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_JP/status/828141110451134470)
Nintendo announce special event map which reward 6 orbs for clear this map and it seems that maps will be added one by one every week for the next 5 weeks
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So with my team of 40/36/34/21 I seem to consistently find Lv29~31 enemies when I choose Intermediate. I wonder if I were to get a Lv1 dancer, that would cause me to get more weak AI teams I can just roflstomp.
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I think I might have to train my units before taking on the later chapters and get more units.
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When you're strong enough to, be sure to go back and do story chapters in higher difficulties for more orbs, too.
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So with my team of 40/36/34/21 I seem to consistently find Lv29~31 enemies when I choose Intermediate. I wonder if I were to get a Lv1 dancer, that would cause me to get more weak AI teams I can just roflstomp.
Does that explain why people were talking about finding teams with 3 weak level 1 enemies and one curbstomper? I wonder if that actually works in practice.
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Does that explain why people were talking about finding teams with 3 weak level 1 enemies and one curbstomper? I wonder if that actually works in practice.
There are people running around in the top echelons with 4 takumis so I will probably keep doing this just to avoid them
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It might not be super practical, but Subaki flying around with 30 defense (at level 21?), Catria having +4 defense when initiating attacks AND debuffed attack by -5 after combat is pretty silly. Florina is bad though and should feel bad if not for having the Resistance that Subaki doesn't.
Also, arrows.
(https://imgur.com/fqDxsUD.jpeg)
It slows down to a crawl sometimes...
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Oh neat, I pulled five-star Lyn. That'll be my sword user to replace Sheena then. I honestly don't love Lyn's abilities, but she'll be worth just for raw stats and sword-having, and there should definitely be times I can trick the AI into hitting her just hard enough to make her a fucking monster.
Curious to see if Gale Force is anything. Seems hard as hell to get off, but so good if you do.
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Currently working on leveling an arena team I would describe as 'tricky'. There aren't any 5 stars in it, but they have the skills: lunge, lunge, dance/knock back, draw back. I'm hoping I can trick some wary challengers with some of the hard to predict effective ranges of the team. It isn't the best since the two lunge users should ideally have similar movement ranges, but one is on a wyvern and the other is a knight. I wish I had another lunge user since the draw back unit is kinda wasted since there aren't any ranged units on this team. We'll see how it goes.
e: unwary, I meant. Going for a "Surprise!" if they weren't checking enemy skills properly. Inspired from that one room on the left of the map in hinoka's first level in conquest with all the ninjas with lunge.
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Currently working on leveling an arena team I would describe as 'tricky'. There aren't any 5 stars in it, but they have the skills: lunge, lunge, dance/knock back, draw back. I'm hoping I can trick some wary challengers with some of the hard to predict effective ranges of the team. It isn't the best since the two lunge users should ideally have similar movement ranges, but one is on a wyvern and the other is a knight. I wish I had another lunge user since the draw back unit is kinda wasted since there aren't any ranged units on this team. We'll see how it goes.
e: unwary, I meant. Going for a "Surprise!" if they weren't checking enemy skills properly. Inspired from that one room on the left of the map in hinoka's first level in conquest with all the ninjas with lunge.
All enemies are unwary. They're controlled by AI. And it isn't very smart.
So in that sense you won't technically trick anyone, but you should be able to make good use of those abilities to move people around however you like.
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All enemies are unwary. They're controlled by AI. And it isn't very smart.
So in that sense you won't technically trick anyone, but you should be able to make good use of those abilities to move people around however you like.
I meant arena team as in the left most slot that people will have to face in the arena. What do we call that, the defense team?
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Speaking of which, are they gonna implement defense rankings, and standings in general? What's this 'unranked' business?
And is anyone else getting 'Greet' constantly greyed out? Does that ever refresh or are you resigned to greet people for the rest of your life?
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I meant arena team as in the left most slot that people will have to face in the arena. What do we call that, the defense team?
I gotcha.
I keep winning defenses, which I think is super weird. My team is NOT good. But because of that I'm actually in the top rank by just a couple of points. I'm at 3008 points right now, and you need 3001 for the top rank. :o
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I gotcha.
I keep winning defenses, which I think is super weird. My team is NOT good. But because of that I'm actually in the top rank by just a couple of points. I'm at 3008 points right now, and you need 3001 for the top rank. :o
OK wait wait wait wait. What ranks? All I see is 'Unranked', and that doesn't seem to have to do with defense score anyway. Which I don't have, I guess?
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And is anyone else getting 'Greet' constantly greyed out? Does that ever refresh or are you resigned to greet people for the rest of your life?
I think when you poke your friend's envoy who comes to greet you then you automatically greet them back, which is why you get 5x feathers twice (it couldn't be a number like 100, or something that actually matters compared to the bare minimum you'll be pulling from arena? Nintendo, pls).
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I seriously wish that there will be feathers farming map in future because I really unlock 5 stars every unit but feather cost are really high and there are few method to gain many feathers right now ...
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It might not be super practical, but Subaki flying around with 30 defense (at level 21?), Catria having +4 defense when initiating attacks AND debuffed attack by -5 after combat is pretty silly. Florina is bad though and should feel bad if not for having the Resistance that Subaki doesn't.
Also, arrows.
Unsure if you've played an FE before, but PegKnights typically have very good RES, so that's usually something to expect.
edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/IT7Jwto.png)
haha yess the game forces everyone to use her
(http://i.imgur.com/z4nGYNQ.png)
nooooooooooooo0000000000000000
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OK wait wait wait wait. What ranks? All I see is 'Unranked', and that doesn't seem to have to do with defense score anyway. Which I don't have, I guess?
I'm going off of the "arena rewards" tab, which admittedly might not exactly correlate to rank. Right now I'm receiving the maximum reward for this season, at any rate. It's my assumption that that will correspond to rank in the next season (which might keep the meaner whale teams away from less experienced or invested players, which is nice). But maybe it won't, I don't know.
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just nailed out 3200~ points in arena my friend is at 3100~ and hes getting 1500 from ranking so i hope to stay around there when it ends
final fight had takumi on both beg and int so decided fuck it and went adv. it payed off pretty well since i got that map with the mountain in the middle which is a ez win for me
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is na actually kept up to date with jp here? the orb special dungeons are already up nice.
I'm glad that they're handing out free orbs, but in the end that really pushes emphasis on rolling for good units and not, you know, actually developing your units?? Without any feathers, I'm stuck at this weird impasse where all my non-five stars are at lvl 20 but I don't want to use them anymore because devoting stamina and exp on this is ultimately pointless, meaning I'm back to grinding out my five stars again. Really killing progress and diversity here.
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In looking more closely at the arena, ranking actually works completely differently than I thought. Offense and defense don't get added up, they're separate and scored separately. Which seems a bit odd since you can't really control how many defenses you get or against who.
The downside to this is that my rank is lower than I thought (although I am getting the second highest tier possible for offense) but we get way more feathers than I thought since they're scored and awarded for three different categories.
Edit: Hmm, there's a fair but slightly unintuitive mechanic in the arena where your chain bonus resets after you reach seven wins. I just got a win on the hardest arena difficulty that raised my base score considerably, but I'd need to get back up to seven wins again for it to actually count. Could spend crests, but... Eh. I'll wait.
Camilla is a great Takumi-slayer if you can get him caught on terrain, bait him out, or get the jump on him with Dance or Smite. Killing Takumi, getting Savage Bliw damage on everyone, and most likely getting one more hit in before she dies is totally worth kamikaze-ing Camilla.
Edit edit: Who all gets Smite, anyway? I've only seen it on Bartre so far, but if he's the only one who gets it then I think it's more than enough to make him meta. It has some significant upsides over Dance (and some downsides too, but at any rate it's a viable alternative).
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yay my scrubby "don't get everyone to 40" strats prevail
(http://i.imgur.com/cILttJi.png)
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Gross. :v
I mean, congratulations, but I sure hope they patch that out. That's abusive as hell. And presumably gets worse if you minmax it harder.
I wonder now if that's why I kept seeing Olivias and Tharjas and shit that were just wrecking my teams solo on day 1-2. Must be, right?
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Gross. :v
I mean, congratulations, but I sure hope they patch that out. That's abusive as hell. And presumably gets worse if you minmax it harder.
I wonder now if that's why I kept seeing Olivias and Tharjas and shit that were just wrecking my teams solo on day 1-2. Must be, right?
the thing is the ai is dumb and won't use them in the best way all the time
also if you think this is gross, try running into 4tak teams and tell me that's not worse
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I refuse to tell you that's not worse! But something doesn't have to be the worst to be bad.
I would also like to see stacking the same character nerfed. Either by just making it so characters are unique or by giving a point penalty. I know that might discourage whales a bit since it would make duplicates less desirable and we must never discourage whales, but it would make the game better.
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I refuse to tell you that's not worse! But something doesn't have to be the worst to be bad.
I would also like to see stacking the same character nerfed. Either by just making it so characters are unique or by giving a point penalty. I know that might discourage whales a bit since it would make duplicates less desirable and we must never discourage whales, but it would make the game better.
Well, until something changes, this is the most non-iap, effective way to defeat the 4tak or 4hector teams, and I will keep doing it until they fix up their game.
In a way, this too is, master-level tactics.
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I have yet to see the four Takumis team, but I thiiink I can beat it if I get the right map. And it also depends on how the AI prioritizes targets. So that's a lot of ifs, but I'd be interested to give it a shot at some point.
Whether I can beat four Hectors is down to if I can trick them into hitting Lyn to below 50% without killing her and, again, AI targeting. A lot of my strategies seem to end up relying on assuming the AI will punch Serra even when it's not a good idea and it keeps paying off.
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Edit edit: Who all gets Smite, anyway? I've only seen it on Bartre so far, but if he's the only one who gets it then I think it's more than enough to make him meta. It has some significant upsides over Dance (and some downsides too, but at any rate it's a viable alternative).
Effie!!!
Too bad she's an armorknight and most of the time I want to move her not smite someone
Anyway that screenshot cleared some things up for me. I got no defense data, does that mean nobody fought me or some bug? Or maybe it's because I had a crappy team on the left by accident most of the time :x
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Yeah, Smite probably isn't idea on someone who's super slow, but you could probably make good use of it with Effie with a little extra setup. And lances seem like the best weapon right now since I see a heavy skew toward swords in PVP, so that's an upside over Bartre.
What determines which team you use for arena defense, anyway? Is it just most recent team used or can you set it?
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Yeah, Smite probably isn't idea on someone who's super slow, but you could probably make good use of it with Effie with a little extra setup. And lances seem like the best weapon right now since I see a heavy skew toward swords in PVP, so that's an upside over Bartre.
What determines which team you use for arena defense, anyway? Is it just most recent team used or can you set it?
first team
I like draw back more than shove/smite
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Draw Back is WAY better than I thought it was because the attacker still retreats even if they kill the target. It's extremely good. Although it's a different kind of skill than Smite. Smite is for guaranteeing you can get the first strike on an enemy that outranges you, which Draw Back does nothing to help. Although the two might work well together.
Smite also has the weird ability to throw units over mountains which comes up very occasionally too. You might be able to do that with Draw Back if it moves you backward onto a mountain, but I have no idea if that works and the positioning would be incredibly specific.
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Draw Back is WAY better than I thought it was because the attacker still retreats even if they kill the target. It's extremely good. Although it's a different kind of skill than Smite. Smite is for guaranteeing you can get the first strike on an enemy that outranges you, which Draw Back does nothing to help. Although the two might work well together.
Smite also has the weird ability to throw units over mountains which comes up very occasionally too. You might be able to do that with Draw Back if it moves you backward onto a mountain, but I have no idea if that works and the positioning would be incredibly specific.
I've used Fae to draw someone "back" closer into enemy range, it just depends on where the drawer is positioned.
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I haven't had my team chosen to be attacked, ever...
Thus my defense score is 0.
However, I did just roll another 5:
(http://imgur.com/b7s0HVc.png)
Am I cool now?
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AI seems to prioritize whatever they do the most damage to and not the 3 hp Lyn right in front of them
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Yeah, that's a huge invisible buff to Lyn. AI will ignore her to beat up healers and just let her go ape. It also prioritizes Takumi as though he can't counter even though he can (and presumably Hector as well). Definitely makes healers better than they seem, since they're great decoys.
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Yeah, that's a huge invisible buff to Lyn. AI will ignore her to beat up healers and just let her go ape. It also prioritizes Takumi as though he can't counter even though he can (and presumably Hector as well). Definitely makes healers better than they seem, since they're great decoys.
Well screw healers because I just got phwocked by a dude with a team of high 20s and a level 1 healer. Really, what's the deal with that? I guess it's a unit dedicated for the defense arenas or else it would've leveled up already. :V
My strategy was to use a group of Lv16-20 units and a Lv31 Effie. Four star Marth, Gunter and Effie with 3* Lissa, to be exact, and all of them (including Lissa) can hit really hard and actually put in some work. Especially Gunter. What the christ.
Effie though, Effie is so goddamned good, and destroys Marth, Lucina, Roy and Lyn, and also some of the magic users. The combination of amazing attack, good defense, passable resistance, death blow and wary fighter is just crazy. Too bad the dude with the Lv1 healer also had a Lv29 Camilla which BARELY killed me with some proc + brave axe.
So my offense score is sitting at 2055. And I'm still unranked. Kinda amazing if there are 100,000 players with more score. This game blew up.
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Well screw healers because I just got phwocked by a dude with a team of high 20s and a level 1 healer. Really, what's the deal with that? I guess it's a unit dedicated for the defense arenas or else it would've leveled up already. :V
My strategy was to use a group of Lv16-20 units and a Lv31 Effie. Four star Marth, Gunter and Effie with 3* Lissa, to be exact, and all of them (including Lissa) can hit really hard and actually put in some work. Especially Gunter. What the christ.
Effie though, Effie is so goddamned good, and destroys Marth, Lucina, Roy and Lyn, and also some of the magic users. The combination of amazing attack, good defense, passable resistance, death blow and wary fighter is just crazy. Too bad the dude with the Lv1 healer also had a Lv29 Camilla which BARELY killed me with some proc + brave axe.
So my offense score is sitting at 2055. And I'm still unranked. Kinda amazing if there are 100,000 players with more score. This game blew up.
I think I had like 2500 and I was unranked, but then a few hundred points up from that I shot up to like 80k or something, so yes, there are just that many people, especially since the server is global.
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I'm at 61k-ish with ~2700 points. Which doesn't shock me since my team isn't super minmaxed.
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go get your feathers guys
(http://i.imgur.com/hhiRojs.png)
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414-805-9868 here. Didn't reroll much and I already got a decent starting team.
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Happy with my Azura 5 star pull while training my other units for more chapter maps...
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https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_JP/status/828800637060030465 (https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_JP/status/828800637060030465)
seems Nintendo give us 10,000 feathers for retweet campaign!!
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I have five Lissas now
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I have five Lissas now
Immortality!
E:
O-oh...
(http://i.imgur.com/ilMXE3j.jpg)
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It might not be super practical, but Subaki flying around with 30 defense (at level 21?), Catria having +4 defense when initiating attacks AND debuffed attack by -5 after combat is pretty silly. Florina is bad though and should feel bad if not for having the Resistance that Subaki doesn't.
Florina is fine.
* She has an armorslayer
* Breath of Life
* Ardent Sacrifice in case she's in danger of one-shot
AI seems to prioritize whatever they do the most damage to and not the 3 hp Lyn right in front of them
#1 - Avoid getting countered
#2 - WTA/WTD
#3 - Damage
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(http://i.imgur.com/rCzQ3E0.jpg)
Kill me
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That's okay, I just got a 3* Eliwood. Didn't even know that could happen...
Last two sets of pulls have been four 3* and one 4*. Oh well, all I really feel like I maybe "need" at this point is a gold healer or dancer.
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OHHHHH I GOT LYN!!!
Where's my Abel tho?
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Hmm, so does the defense screen only show successful defenses and not defense losses?
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Been rerolling since launch. But I guess this is the best combo, more than 1 SSR reroll I can muster.
(https://scontent.fmnl4-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/16558422_1408965625791544_1554239501_n.png?oh=e2e55c3dbe1419f880f10570656cc04b&oe=589CC8FC)
Takumi and Chrom, then Lucina in the 2nd rolls.
I just had to get either Takumi/Hector in the rolls, and I'm glad even after a week, I got it.
ID: 204 925 9306
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Hmm, so does the defense screen only show successful defenses and not defense losses?
Until I see a loss listed I'm going to assume they just don't show up. I have a hard time believing I've never lost a defense.
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My luck has been BAAAAAAAAD with these rolls and on top of that I have nothing else fun to do until further notice due to me having to try and play all of the story on hard mode since I've beaten it on normal.
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The way things're going, my first 5* is gonna be someone who I've leveled up if/once we get that gift of 10,000 feathers. ;>;
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5* hinoka get! Should really get to birthright sometime since she's one of the ones I was looking forward to seeing.
Also a 4* camilla but I can't fuse her so in the box for now.
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(https://scontent.fmnl4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/16650184_1409447122410061_840464716_n.png?oh=2cf8c206e27872806d44e62fbc49f987&oe=589CAE03)
The rates are so real in the game.
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am I good yet
(http://i.imgur.com/DW90KIK.png)
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Arena points seem to fluctuate wildly with different teams. Anyone know which team composition gets the more points?
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Arena points seem to fluctuate wildly with different teams. Anyone know which team composition gets the more points?
AFAIK if you have the season's chosen Heroes, you'll get more points.
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AFAIK if you have the season's chosen Heroes, you'll get more points.
I know that much, but I noticed sometimes --wait shit I forgot to bring one of those. WHOOPS
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Arena points seem to fluctuate wildly with different teams. Anyone know which team composition gets the more points?
The levels of the opposing team matter as well, hence you will never ever see double digit ranks unless you're fighting with all 40+X units.
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Well, I beat a three-Takumi team (Takumi x3, Camilla x1). Wonder if I can handle a fourth?
My team isn't max level yet (all my guys are in the low-to-mid 30s) so I'm not getting the very highest scores per battle, but so far I'm up to six consecutive advanced wins.
I haven't really been using stamina potions because I know things will slow down some once I've cleared everything, but the lunatic quests are sometimes so specific that they'll require me to train up new teams, so that's some potential longevity.
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Well, I beat a three-Takumi team (Takumi x3, Camilla x1). Wonder if I can handle a fourth?
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277090227779272704/278865294762573824/dd1c5eae902b4e268d335fe976a2d00c.png)
I dunno. Can you?
Sum dood's screencap from discord.
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That's like the worst possible map for that. Eeeew.
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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277090227779272704/278865294762573824/dd1c5eae902b4e268d335fe976a2d00c.png)
I dunno. Can you?
Sum dood's screencap from discord.
This is why I outrange his infinite counter skill by just not being able to be on the same map/avg level range. Ez feathers
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We must face our worst brother head on. Fleeing from him just allows him to continue his rampage uncontested.
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We must face our worst brother head on. Fleeing from him just allows him to continue his rampage uncontested.
I've so far faced a Takumi + Camilla combination team for me so far I hope they limit 5 stars soon it's ridiculous.
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I've so far faced a Takumi + Camilla combination team for me so far I hope they limit 5 stars soon it's ridiculous.
That's not gonna be very popular. Or make much sense.
Why are multiples of the same character a thing now that doesn't make any sense. Unless the summoning gates can actually grab the same character from multiple times or timelines or even multiple parallel universes then that'd be cool. In fact that should be a thing. For fates for example, have a conquest and birthright version or something.
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That's not gonna be very popular. Or make much sense.
Why are multiples of the same character a thing now that doesn't make any sense. Unless the summoning gates can actually grab the same character from multiple times or timelines or even multiple parallel universes then that'd be cool. In fact that should be a thing. For fates for example, have a conquest and birthright version or something.
Yeah, but still I mean limit down the number of the characters you can put out like Only 1 Camilla or something like that for pvp that's what I mean not the stars I mean limiting the character to 1 per pvp team.
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I think it's pretty much confirmed that summoning can reach into multiple timelines since there are two different playable Corrins. That said, I'm not against duplicate or star-restricted formats. That'd be cool.
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We must face our worst brother head on. Fleeing from him just allows him to continue his rampage uncontested.
I'm not fleeing I'm just strategically positioning myself out of the range of his attack like you do in all fe games
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I think it's pretty much confirmed that summoning can reach into multiple timelines since there are two different playable Corrins. That said, I'm not against duplicate or star-restricted formats. That'd be cool.
and a young(~8?)/adult(~15?? lol) version of that one girl, yeah that makes sense
I'm not fleeing I'm just strategically positioning myself out of the range of his attack like you do in all fe games
unrelated, but reminded me of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaJyZ7lmHiM)
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10k feathers in, also 10 dueling swords.
In addition, new missions related to Arena have appeared wherein you can get more swords and feathers for successful attacks.
This should ease some of the hassles regarding using them to rarity-up stuff I'd figure!
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I went and rushed down all the Normal Arena quests for you guys to see if there's a Hard mode and
(http://i.imgur.com/76BrUhi.png)
Seems like they did give us more feathers, but we're gonna have to reach for the ones past 10k...
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Is there any reason why I shouldn't spend the next 20k feathers on camilla to rank her up then feed her? Is there also like an ideal level to reach before feeding or unlock all skills or anything like that?
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(http://i.imgur.com/SxU2UPI.jpg)
Given my current available options I think this is about as high as my score csn possibly get. Just gotta keep my fingers crossed for some decent arena defenses I guess.
Also interestingly my rank absolutely plummeted since yesterday. Which makes some sense, since presumably most people hadn't finished their seven wins yet. But neither had I, so I was surprised to see it drop that much.
Is there any reason why I shouldn't spend the next 20k feathers on camilla to rank her up then feed her? Is there also like an ideal level to reach before feeding or unlock all skills or anything like that?
Since she doesn't have any extremely expensive skills you're probably fine just leveling her normally. No idea how I'm gonna get Lyn's Gale Force though. She's close to capped and nowhere near enough points to buy it.
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It'd be a bit more grindy but kills also give SP so you can learn skills even when at level 40, aha. That or feed her a dupe '3'
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(http://i.imgur.com/SxU2UPI.jpg)
Also interestingly my rank absolutely plummeted since yesterday. Which makes some sense, since presumably most people hadn't finished their seven wins yet. But neither had I, so I was surprised to see it drop that much.
I went down from like rank 2k to rank 10k+ overnight with 3889 so it's pretty bad lol
At this rate I have a better shot at just doing the hard and lunatic arena quests for the 20k with the free swords because this is ridiculous
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Yeah I guess saying I have "no idea how" isn't true. I know exactly how, it just sounds like a huge hassle.
And yeah, honestly my plan is to just blast through the quests too. Although off the top of my head I don't have anyone I immediately plan on upgrading. I know YOU do, but my best guess is Serra and honestly she's probably not ultimately worth it. Maybe Tharja since she's already basically 5* quality.
So raising star level does increase base stats too, right? Does anyone know by how much?
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So raising star level does increase base stats too, right? Does anyone know by how much?
If you mean Lv1 stats, not much. I am not sure about overall stats, but they should be maybe 20-25 points higher at 5*40 than 4*40.
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That's pretty fucking high actually. Serra backed up by Lyn's Spur Speed can already take one hit from most enemies, but an extra 3-5 points in each stat should basically guarantee it. And given that her role is as much "AI attention magnet" as it is healer, the ability to sponge two attacks over a game consistently is pretty huge.
But then again making Tharja hit even harder is important too... And I should have one more round of pulls before my supply of stones basically dries up, so maybe I'll find something else I really want. Azura or Elise would be perfect, and I'd be plenty happy to upgrade them from 4*.
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That's pretty fucking high actually. Serra backed up by Lyn's Spur Speed can already take one hit from most enemies, but an extra 3-5 points in each stat should basically guarantee it. And given that her role is as much "AI attention magnet" as it is healer, the ability to sponge two attacks over a game consistently is pretty huge.
But then again making Tharja hit even harder is important too... And I should have one more round of pulls before my supply of stones basically dries up, so maybe I'll find something else I really want. Azura or Elise would be perfect, and I'd be plenty happy to upgrade them from 4*.
Again, this is just what i've heard, and it's fairly sketchy data. I also have no idea if they're spread out evenly across all stats, either.
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After days of rerolling I finally got something I'm happy with. 5* Lucina along with 4* F!Corrin.
Here's my ID: 2904828112
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well that was close
(http://i.imgur.com/WYJukvn.png)
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well that was close
(http://i.imgur.com/WYJukvn.png)
Oh wow. That seemed like something I'd have suffered through
Meanwhile, my quest for getting Abel continues!!
I got 4 blues yesterday, and 2 of them were Florina :ohdear:
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Oh what my rank shot way back up to ~30k. Well... Good I guess.
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Since she doesn't have any extremely expensive skills you're probably fine just leveling her normally. No idea how I'm gonna get Lyn's Gale Force though. She's close to capped and nowhere near enough points to buy it.
rank and feed as in, is there any reason to keep two 5 star camillas around or should I feed one to the other? The plus bonuses seem beneficial(?) once you hit lvl40
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Depends on the unit. Do most people need two 5* Camillas? Probably not, she's pretty niche. Would *I* keep two of them? Of course.
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(http://i.imgur.com/vM26kKJ.jpg)
This happened earlier today. My orb supply is almost up too, so I told myself I'd delete the app and reroll if I didn't get a single 5*... and I got a single 5*. Not complaining, though! I needed a mage, and Tiki seems like she has good synergy with Effie in general. Funny you guys were just talking about SP management because I leveled her way too fast and then I figured out I'm level 25 and need like 700 more SP whoops.
One 5* though? When everybody's running around with at least three of them? If you're asking why I haven't rerolled anyway...
(http://i.imgur.com/OI1CVT8.jpg)
#EffieHeroes
I'm dying to uprank her to 5* so I can see her bases stack against Hector. She surely has more Attack, and that's without Death Blow. *whistles*
P.S.: I get the Peri fanboys now. Her VA is great. Finally you get to smack people with a cartoon character that looks, sounds and acts like one.
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Yeah my roommate doesn't play Fire Emblem but he pulled Peri and loved her design. I was like "wait until you hear her voice". Now he's a fanboy. She's one of the best 4*s too.
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She looks so happy to be stabby with people in this game especially it's hard to not let her.
The game's so new I have no idea what to expect with the premium content. Ike's not even out yet and I don't particularly have anyone I need need atm so I guess I'll just save up the orbs.
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Managed to finish with the Hard quests. And the Lunatic ones... still give shards???
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>everyone running around with 3 or more 5*s
/me looks at his Camilla and no other 5*s
About that...(also I don't even use her RIP. Other stuff is more interesting to me, plus shes doesn't really aesthetically appeal to me much either. I have other axe users like Frederick anyway. (She's really good of course, and I'll probably use her more eventually, but not yet)
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I think I've given up on summoning any 5*s at this point. On the upside, I've got the 10,000 feathers, so I just need to beat those arena quests and hope that they release more quests that'll give me the 20,000 needed for my male Robin... though I need to get stronger to farm the twenty great azure badges needed for the rank up too. I'm basically screwed at any stratum higher than five in the training tower right now.
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so I just need to beat those arena quests and hope that they release more quests that'll give me the 20,000 needed for my male Robin...
good fucking luck doing that, here's the lunatic set
(http://i.imgur.com/j2z6StZ.png)
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rank and feed as in, is there any reason to keep two 5 star camillas around or should I feed one to the other? The plus bonuses seem beneficial(?) once you hit lvl40
Might be worth it to level them both up to max to see which ends up with the better stat spread.
Also, with respect to not summoning 5 stars, every time you summon 5 times without a 5* they raise the appearance rate in each summoning batch by 0.5% (this info is visible under gacha details) and it increases to 100% chance of a 5* (applied to -all- stones in that summoning session, so 5 5*s) after 120 total summons. The low rate of increase is a little ridiculous but someone can probably do the math on how it actually affects chances.
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Just did my last "easy" round of pulls. Four 3*s and one 4* again. Got a 3* female Corrin, which seems like a reasonably interesting candidate to upgrade to 5* to me.
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good fucking luck doing that, here's the lunatic set
(http://i.imgur.com/j2z6StZ.png)
I didn't say it'd be easy. ;>;
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Just did my last "easy" round of pulls. Four 3*s and one 4* again. Got a 3* female Corrin, which seems like a reasonably interesting candidate to upgrade to 5* to me.
F!Corrin is fantastic. Lowers enemy resistance with a passive(which is great because dragonbreath is magic damage) and surrounding targets' Atk and Spd with Dark Breath. Melee range magic is also very rare(only dragons have it to my knowledge) so she is likely to be a fun one. Raising her myself; considering 4*ing her sometime since she is high enough level to do so for me right now. Considering raising my 3*s to 4* first since I can get multiple people improved at once instead of saving just for one specific one of my 4*s to 5*.
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F!Corrin is fantastic. Lowers enemy resistance with a passive(which is great because dragonbreath is magic damage) and surrounding targets' Atk and Spd with Dark Breath. Melee range magic is also very rare(only dragons have it to my knowledge) so she is likely to be a fun one. Raising her myself; considering 4*ing her sometime since she is high enough level to do so for me right now. Considering raising my 3*s to 4* first since I can get multiple people improved at once instead of saving just for one specific one of my 4*s to 5*.
She has stiff competition from Nowi, I guess. I have a 3* myself and her stats are really middling.
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She has stiff competition from Nowi, I guess. I have a 3* myself and her stats are really middling.
The way I see it she has two major upsides:
-A bulky character that can spread debuffs everywhere seems cool.
-Camilla needs a Corrin to love, and it might as well be yuri.
I honestly don't think I'm interested in every cutting a cleric for my main team (which is the only slot she would plausibly go in) unless the AI gets smarter, but having options will be nice.
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Might be worth it to level them both up to max to see which ends up with the better stat spread.
Also, with respect to not summoning 5 stars, every time you summon 5 times without a 5* they raise the appearance rate in each summoning batch by 0.5% (this info is visible under gacha details) and it increases to 100% chance of a 5* (applied to -all- stones in that summoning session, so 5 5*s) after 120 total summons. The low rate of increase is a little ridiculous but someone can probably do the math on how it actually affects chances.
What? Random growth rates are a thing in this game?
And since I was doing lots of probability homework, I tried it. Not the best at probabilities so it might be totally wrong, but: there seems to be a 20.94% probability that you will roll one set of five rolls containing no 5-stars and seeing at least one 5-star in your next set, followed by 15.96% of rolling two sets of five rolls without any 5-stars and seeing at least one 5-star in the third roll, and then 11% for three sets of sad rolls and seeing one in the next, etc. And then the cumulative probability that you rolled 0 or 1 or 2 or 3 barren sets and had at least one 5-star in the next set is about 75%.
idk, seems kinda high. probably goofed somewhere in the numbers.
e: I'm guessing enemy AI characters have additional skills, I just saw a camilla with poison strike. Now that would be ridiculous, poison strike and savage blow?
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This game works like Pok?mon where all characters have a certain range of stats they can have that's determined when you get them but unlike Pok?mon there is absolutely nothing you can do about it
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>want to upgrade Alphonse to 3*
>9/10 red badges
>only green badges today
fire emblem pls
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- New Game
- Continue
- Copy Data
- Erase Data
- New Game+
(http://i.imgur.com/FLywZLt.png)
EDIT: 1hr later I got her to Lv40, a special event occurred (http://imgur.com/a/R0com)
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(http://i.imgur.com/lENZQJz.jpg)
Team Weedgod pulls through!
- New Game
- Continue
- Copy Data
- Erase Data
- New Game+
(http://i.imgur.com/FLywZLt.png)
EDIT: 1hr later I got her to Lv40, a special event occurred (http://imgur.com/a/R0com)
I wanna augment my team with Felicia, 'cause I kinda need a magekiller. Yes or yes?
EDIT: Actually what I really need is a Robinkiller, and I forgot he wrecks colorless. Uhh... Umm.
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Anyone tried the new Special Map for the exclusive unit yet?
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I also just learned that getting a 5* to level cap gets you a special waifu conversation.
(http://i.imgur.com/kQE89kp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JcpjDtf.jpg)
Etc. This went on for a while. Very nice touch.
Anyone tried the new Special Map for the exclusive unit yet?
Yeah. I was very happy with it. Found it to be very tricky (at least with the unfair victory condition taken into consideration). It was a suitable endgame dungeon. The reward is not greeeat, but it's worth grabbing I guess.
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I wanna augment my team with Felicia, 'cause I kinda need a magekiller. Yes or yes?
don't do it because she has high res, do it because she's the best bro in fe:if
EDIT: Got bored at work
~End of All (Maid)~ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLZR1GdMJps)
You are the series' worst maid...
Sing with me a song, of dropping the tray,
The food scatters to, the sky above...
The teacup breaks, with a boom,
Now get out and go, to the store all alone...
You are the series's worst maid, destined to fail
Competence for you, is out of reach
Yet even so, things may change.
But enough downtime, the teacup is in aisle nine.
You are the series' worst maid.
Sing with me a song, of washing a plate,
The dirty dish cracks, this is not great...
Broken pieces on my hands, bloody and frayed,
I might need a band-aid...
You are a really bad maid, I can't believe
You still try, even though no one can teach.
But, even so, things may change...
Now try not to move, while I seal up the wound.
You are a kinda bad maid.
Sing with me a song, of laundry and stains,
Hanging them up, the rain falls, do it again...
In the storeroom, I yell, "We're all out of Tide!"
Can no one hear my cry?
You are a hard-working maid,
Even when things get so bad, you want to scream.
And over time, things do change.
Work hard to the end, for all your friends.
You are the series' best maid.
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Hmm, none of my units have tanky enough res to avoid getting one-shot by the mage when trying to initiate in the special map.
And then any that survive are finished off by the cav.
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Yeah, the new map is tricky. I had to engage with Camilla over the mountain range taking out the archer, since fortunately neither of the nearby mages can do much to her which gave her time to run away and get healed before she died.
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Yeah, the new map is tricky. I had to engage with Camilla over the mountain range taking out the archer, since fortunately neither of the nearby mages can do much to her which gave her time to run away and get healed before she died.
I talked to another dude who did the exact same thing with Camilla. "And she survived the mages?" "Yep".
I think when I level up my party to level 40 I'm gonna try sending Tiki and a healer in the chokepoint and hope for the best.
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The problem with that is that the mages are actually super fucking deadly. It just so happens that they're placed well to not be able to hurt Camilla at first. You have to be REALLY careful managing them at a chokepoint. Odds are there's one of the three who can mangle any given tank. It might work, but be careful. I definitely lost a few runs by having a mage surprise one-shot a character I didn't expect them to be able to take.
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The problem with that is that the mages are actually super fucking deadly. It just so happens that they're placed well to not be able to hurt Camilla at first. You have to be REALLY careful managing them at a chokepoint. Odds are there's one of the three who can mangle any given tank. It might work, but be careful. I definitely lost a few runs by having a mage surprise one-shot a character I didn't expect them to be able to take.
I think the sword guy at the end of the chokepoint can be lured in by standing one space *before* deathzone deathplace. If I do that, heal, then step forward and tank one hit from blue mage, I might be good. Depends on how hard Narcian hits me.
If they aggro you anyway, taking away the safe spaces, then I got nuthin'.
EDIT: Actually, I don't know what I'm talking about. Nowhere in that hallway is safe lol.
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I'm just lucky Camilla happened to be really well suited for this. My next best guess would be to Smite a bulky unit over the mountains and have them single out the mage who had advantage over them first (sure hope it's not the one who's out of reach) and hope for the best. Maybe backing them up with a flying unit.
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I'm just lucky Camilla happened to be really well suited for this. My next best guess would be to Smite a bulky unit over the mountains and have them single out the mage who had advantage over them first (sure hope it's not the one who's out of reach) and hope for the best. Maybe backing them up with a flying unit.
Can't smite over the mountains. Mountains too fat at two tiles.
The other strat seems to be to sit someone at the choke point one space below Narcian (vertically), someone like FemCorrin, then retreat and place, like, Tiki a space below, to take Narcian who by this point has gone aggro on your ass. I'm optimistic!
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Managed to scrape by Normal, team far too weak for Hard. Team was Niko/F!Corrin/Frederick/Olivia. Corrin to barely draw out aggro(killing the sword knight in the process), Danced to get her to safety, then when he was in range used Nino to instagib Narcian himself(she is -FAST-.). After that it was just playing safe and letting the enemies walk into the slaughter.
If I level the team up it can probably work for Hard too I would imagine. Still, this is much harder than other stages I've played for sure. I think 9-5 was trickier in some ways but this one was on a really hard map to fight on.
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Can't smite over the mountains. Mountains too fat at two tiles.
The other strat seems to be to sit someone at the choke point one space below Narcian (vertically), someone like FemCorrin, then retreat and place, like, Tiki a space below, to take Narcian who by this point has gone aggro on your ass. I'm optimistic!
Can't you? I swear I saw someone do that once. Fair enough.
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(http://i.imgur.com/OXWI0IO.jpg)
Easy challenge
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(http://i.imgur.com/OXWI0IO.jpg)
Easy challenge
be careful if you run into any other lv1'ers and their guys suicide into yours and give them exp :ohdear:
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(http://i.imgur.com/4y8WTXw.jpg)
No dear, you're not just another hero. Not every hero can be the worst brother of them all.
(http://i.imgur.com/dJ4i0y4.jpg)
Yup. I acknowledge you. For your abilities. That's it.
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Okay I'm playing this game and have some general noob questions:
1. Is there a published way to grind levels for units?
2. How the fuck did Chirei get the feathers needed to bring meido to 5 stars?
3. Who is a good magic user to star up? Because I've only gotten Takumi and Camillia out of the REM Summoning Stone and desperately need a good mage.
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Okay I'm playing this game and have some general noob questions:
1. Is there a published way to grind levels for units?
Training tower (look for floors with enemies that are weak to and slightly higher level than the unit you're trying to level if possible), upgrading your castle (goes up to 100% bonus experience) and making sure to always do all your arena battles since they give good experience and are completely free.
2. How the fuck did Chirei get the feathers needed to bring meido to 5 stars?
I don't know for sure but I'm assuming the bonus 10k feathers+sending units home (which I believe gives feathers)+arena+grinding out the lunatic arena quests.
3. Who is a good magic user to star up? Because I've only gotten Takumi and Camillia out of the REM Summoning Stone and desperately need a good mage.
Tharja's not bad as four-stars go, although she's really one-dimensional. All of the dragons seem good. Honestly probably any four-star mage is worth leveling to some degree. Might even be able to get away with using a cleric as your magic character to some degree. The only magic user on my PVP team is Serra and she's mostly there as bait and I do just fine so far. I'm also leveling/upgrading female Corrin right now and she seems like a solid magic user too, although she doesn't have a ranged attack.
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2. How the fuck did Chirei get the feathers needed to bring meido to 5 stars?
10,000 feather giveaway
4,000 feathers from first week of arena
5,000 feathers from arena quests released this week
1,000 feathers from selling rem stuff
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Either my camilla has terrible stats or I'm starting to like hinoka a lot more and more. Most times I find myself needing to orko a particular unit and camilla not having enough mt to do that even with hinoka's +6 mt/spd buff, while the latter can. I would suppose her mt is supposed to balance the savage blow, but I haven't found it too useful so far. Hinoka's blazing wind when it goes off is absolutely devastating and actually affects the attack target as well.
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Is Camilla attacking red chars? If yes, then weapon triangle.
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thaat would an unfair comparison no she dies to those. the best examples would be in the kill or be killed situations when you're up against archers with either of the two.
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Are there pros and cons to having people on your friends list? Do they do anything aside from give you a tiny number of feathers once you meet a low threshold? Is there a limit to how many you can have?
Either my camilla has terrible stats or I'm starting to like hinoka a lot more and more. Most times I find myself needing to orko a particular unit and camilla not having enough mt to do that even with hinoka's +6 mt/spd buff, while the latter can. I would suppose her mt is supposed to balance the savage blow, but I haven't found it too useful so far. Hinoka's blazing wind when it goes off is absolutely devastating and actually affects the attack target as well.
Camilla's strength IS on the low side, but you have to pick your targets carefully with her. Fully upgraded she should be quadruple hitting almost everything, which means she should always be triggering Draconic Aura. Because she attacks four times a round she benefits more than most from strength boosts too.
But yeah, what you're really paying for on Camilla is Savage Blow. It's not always 100% useful, but when it is it can basically mean winning the game. Getting it off once turns most neutral-ish or favorable-ish matchups from close calls into one-shot kills, and getting it off twice if you can manage it seals the deal almost always.
There are a lot of things Camilla isn't good against because of her low attack, so playing her successfully is a matter of making trades with her where you come out on top. Bait their healer or archer into a chokepoint, take them out with Camilla, and she'll die but it'll often take opponents two attacks to finish her off and you'll get one of their characters KOed as well as softening up the rest of their team without charging their special moves.
Unfortunately axe is and always will be the worst weapon because more high-quality sword characters exist than any other weapon type, while lance is and will always be the best for the same reason. So in that sense she's sort of anti-meta by killing opposing lance wielders to protect the multiple sword-wielding protagonists you're likely running, but she dies easily to those same multiple sword users, so... Yeah, it's a rough place to be in.
She nearly always pulls more than her weight on my PVP teams, but she also nearly always dies first (she's so brave...) and is occasionally dead weight for a round against exceptionally weird team compositions. To play her right I'd say you need very careful positioning, heavy hitters who can capitalize on the chip damage she dishes out, and preferably an ally who can raise her attack.
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mm woah long reply, thanks!
wonder if they'll do something about the abundance of extra sp you're left over with on characters. I'm thinking of something like dissidia's exp to hp/bravery/ex item, except to small buffs on stats. Then again that would make the game uber grindy unless they lower the sp cap.
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Are there pros and cons to having people on your friends list? Do they do anything aside from give you a tiny number of feathers once you meet a low threshold? Is there a limit to how many you can have?
At the moment they're not really useful for anything, but I know dataminers found half-implemented guilds, and maybe there could be future co-op/raid events. Also, the limit is 55 friends I think - that's how many I'm at and I can't add any more.
Unfortunately axe is and always will be the worst weapon because more high-quality sword characters exist than any other weapon type, while lance is and will always be the best for the same reason.
That's mostly because almost all Lords are sword users (and most of the focus characters right now are red), but just wait for the Ephraim meta soon :V
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At the moment they're not really useful for anything, but I know dataminers found half-implemented guilds, and maybe there could be future co-op/raid events. Also, the limit is 55 friends I think - that's how many I'm at and I can't add any more.
The co-op is incredibly likely, but if anything I wouldn't expect it for a while more if ever, honestly.
Not till they've drained more people's pockets for the waifus/husbandos/minmaxing. Once you have option of doing things with other people, pressure to roll for a 'good blue unit' or the like lessens a LOT. I'd be unsurprised if that's why it's all half-implemented, they realized releasing a half-finished product would get them better profits in the end.
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I forgot to mention that I started playing. My ID is 4266902079(If anyone got a friend request from a strawberryPi, that was me.) So far, I've gotten a 5* Marth, and quite a few 4*s, (one of them was Tiki.) Cleared normals and working on hard. I don't really get how arena system works. I did one where I scored 2300, but I don't get how using featured guys affects it.
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I forgot to mention that I started playing. My ID is 4266902079(If anyone got a friend request from a strawberryPi, that was me.) So far, I've gotten a 5* Marth, and quite a few 4*s, (one of them was Tiki.) Cleared normals and working on hard. I don't really get how arena system works. I did one where I scored 2300, but I don't get how using featured guys affects it.
Have a featured character on your team, get double the points of not.
Higher level opponents yield higher point payouts so in order to maximize you'd need to face the horrors of peoples' Lv. 40(or higher, via plusses gained by eating equal-or-higher-rarity dupes) teams in Advanced battles.
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*Gasp* Posted PAD shit in Fire Emblem board. Disregard.
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hey ccool your husbando doesn't
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Have a featured character on your team, get double the points of not.
Higher level opponents yield higher point payouts so in order to maximize you'd need to face the horrors of peoples' Lv. 40(or higher, via plusses gained by eating equal-or-higher-rarity dupes) teams in Advanced battles.
Does it matter whether you have more than one featured person once you have one? I'm starting to wonder how feasible it is for me to hit the highest tiers. My highest is my lvl 30 Marth atm. Next highest is around early 20s.
My Tiki seems to be underperforming. Feels like she gets 1-shot when she runs into anyone notable.
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*Gasp* Posted PAD shit in Fire Emblem board. Disregard.
ewwwwww shun him
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Does it matter whether you have more than one featured person once you have one? I'm starting to wonder how feasible it is for me to hit the highest tiers. My highest is my lvl 30 Marth atm. Next highest is around early 20s.
Honestly... No? I have a team with three level 40s and a level 38, I have a win streak of seven wins on the highest difficulty, and I'm still pretty far down in the lowest possible rank. I think the ranking system just isn't built to handle the number of people playing the game since it's numerical and not proportional, so you pretty much have to be a whale or exploiting the scoring mechanic in a pretty specific way to even get close to a decent rank. Having a low-level team unfortunately probably won't get you there.
That said, you should still definitely play PVP no matter where you are in the game. It's free experience and you get stuff for any ranking level. And it's not hard to max out on points in every category except actual ranking, so getting reasonable numbers of feathers is still attainable.
My Tiki seems to be underperforming. Feels like she gets 1-shot when she runs into anyone notable.
Is she underleveled? Maybe she just has weird level up results. I've been noticing lately that my Takumi has a solid 15 HP less than like any enemy Takumi I ever see. It's honestly not a huge problem since enemies generally can't double him or one-shot him so it's not worth much in a practical sense, but it seems to highlight just how swingy stat growths can be. I would expect there might be a mechanic eventually to even that out (maybe the aforementioned additional use for excess skill points?), but for now as far as I know it is possible to just get bad level ups unfortunately.
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I'm still pretty far down in the lowest possible rank.
what does it give you for adv wins, I get anywhere from 598 to 612 as my cap
also not dying helps a lot with score
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also not dying helps a lot with score
eh really? it factors in your remaining units? gotta change up my game plan
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eh really? it factors in your remaining units? gotta change up my game plan
I lose about 50 points or so for every unit that died so yeah
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I lose about 50 points or so for every unit that died so yeah
Accurate
The three things that matter:
-bonus characters (at least one)
-stat total (so: five stars, level 40, armor knights)
-number of lost units
Since I'm sitting at one five star unit, I'm content with staying in the 50,000 - 100,000 range. 80,000th right now, hope I survive for twelve hours...
EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/HXptRUp.jpg)
Yay
My strategy, btw, was to put Fluffmaster Lissa as team figurehead. Arena players have a tendency to go for the defenseless healers just as much as the AI does :D
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I've been noticing lately that my Takumi has a solid 15 HP less than like any enemy Takumi I ever see.
Apparently units have IVs(?) like in Pokemon with a lvl 40 variation of about 6 (+3/-3) stat points for any one stat, so your Takumi might be -HP compared to the average (mine is -Atk/+Res).
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Does it matter whether you have more than one featured person once you have one? I'm starting to wonder how feasible it is for me to hit the highest tiers. My highest is my lvl 30 Marth atm. Next highest is around early 20s.
I'm to understand you get the biggest boost from the first featured character (estimated +100% score); each additional featured character still gives about +30% more score (additive). So one featured character is 2x the standard value; but all four is around 3x.
Apparently units have IVs(?) like in Pokemon with a lvl 40 variation of about 6 (+3/-3) stat points for any one stat, so your Takumi might be -HP compared to the average (mine is -Atk/+Res).
Our current understanding is largely that units have a standard set of level 1 and level 40 stats. Each unit will have one enhanced stat (+1 at level 1; +3 at level 40), and one reduced stat from that. However, while the growths head towards the same endpoint, when units get those stat points can vary quite a bit, it seems.
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Can confirm, my Felicia is apparently +3 ATK/-3SPD... unsure if that's actually a good thing.
also rip my fuggin arena rank, too many 40/40/40/40 people now :'(
(http://i.imgur.com/zQM1OpF.png)
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Hmm, that makes sense. I generally get a little over 550 points for a win, but my arena strategy generally has two of my characters die. That makes ranged characters much better than I thought and healers and fliers much worse. Hmm.
That honestly sucks in a lot of ways, it legitimately makes anything that flies crazy underpowered in Takumi meta, but I guess I can't reeeeally fault the game for rewarding what should theoretically be good plays. Rewarding risky plays is interesting even if the game isn't really balanced enough for that to be ideal.
How are people determining what their "IVs" are? I imagine it has to do with comparison to other similar units, but is there an easy database to compare to? I don't mind that that system a ton since unlike in Pokemon there are no useless stats in Heroes (since no physical/ special or magic split on offense in this game). Although getting +speed on an armor knight sucks.
(http://i.imgur.com/8ORaBHu.jpg)
Yeah, I don't buy it champ. I've played your games.
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How are people determining what their "IVs" are? I imagine it has to do with comparison to other similar units, but is there an easy database to compare to?
There's something on gamewith complete with an english translation button that has some vanilla stats of 5* units, but it's incomplete or may be inaccurate. As far as I can tell, it's at least accurate for all the pre-5* and Felicia.
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Six more stones from the launch special missions so go get those now guys >>>>>
I'm at 44 stones so whenever you want to release those new units Nintendo
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Finally pulled another 5*, but it's Jakob. Can't help but be underwhelmed. He doesn't really seem like he does much. He's basically a filler 4* that I happened to pull at 5*. Unless his stats end up being really interesting once leveled, which is possible I guess.
Eyeing him suspiciously considering throwing him in the husbando dumpster to get female Corrin to 5* faster... We'll see I guess.
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Finally pulled another 5*, but it's Jakob. Can't help but be underwhelmed. He doesn't really seem like he does much. He's basically a filler 4* that I happened to pull at 5*. Unless his stats end up being really interesting once leveled, which is possible I guess.
Eyeing him suspiciously considering throwing him in the husbando dumpster to get female Corrin to 5* faster... We'll see I guess.
jakob in fates had better str/def than felicia and that seems to be true here, but the problem is that he is locked to being a butler, which ideally no one kept him as because he was a terrible butler and also possibly a terrible person
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Yeah I remember him in Fates. And I remember that he was really mediocre. When I say "interesting" what I actually mean is "freakishly, Takumi-tanking levels of high defense". Probably not, but maybe..?
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Yeah I remember him in Fates. And I remember that he was really mediocre. When I say "interesting" what I actually mean is "freakishly, Takumi-tanking levels of high defense". Probably not, but maybe..?
like, if you invert felicia's stats that does translate into pretty good def
but why do that when you can just tank with xander and use felicia anyway because she doesn't heal for like 2
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Wait, are we talking about Fates now? Use neither because Elise is the best possible healer, Bifrost proficiency be damned. Just never die.
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Wait, are we talking about Fates now? Use neither because Elise is the best possible healer, Bifrost proficiency be damned. Just never die.
there is no universal fire emblem thread so why not
you gotta debuff all the dudes tho
same case for heroes just debuff all the dudes
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After much cogitation, I have determined that this game is suffering from a criminal lack of L'Arachel.
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After much cogitation, I have determined that this game is suffering from a criminal lack of L'Arachel.
Well, we're expecting Sacred Stones character very soon, and being how early in the game she shows up I imagine it's possible.
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I really like how the starter characters always seem to be featured arena characters. Makes upgrading them theoretically a great investment. They're bad, but they shouldn't be so bad you can't win with them at all on offense with an otherwise good team.
Now if they would just stop featuring Takumi we could shake up the meta a bit, although I see the benefit of repeatedly featuring the five-stars from the special event to include more people.
I've been realizing that the main thing I have trouble against is, fairly unsurprisingly, Azura. Given that she's my absolute top-ranked, number one character for Fates lunatic and if anything she's even more powerful in Heroes, that's gotta be expected. Now I guess I just need to focus on figuring out how to consistently bait her into making bad plays. It should be possible on most maps at least.
Meanwhile I've got enough feathers that I can take my four-star female Corrin (upgraded fron a three-star) up to five stars next week. Maybe not the most optimal use of feathers, but I love how well she and Camilla work together.
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I really like how the starter characters always seem to be featured arena characters. Makes upgrading them theoretically a great investment. They're bad, but they shouldn't be so bad you can't win with them at all on offense with an otherwise good team.
Now if they would just stop featuring Takumi we could shake up the meta a bit, although I see the benefit of repeatedly featuring the five-stars from the special event to include more people.
Well, they haven't changed the featured guys since launch, right? It's just the focus group and Alphonse & Shareena.
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Have they not changed at all? Maybe the order has at least changed. I thought they had changed a bit but I'm probably wrong I guess.
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Have they not changed at all? Maybe the order has at least changed. I thought they had changed a bit but I'm probably wrong I guess.
They probably won't until the next focii are up.
And guess what they'll be then, if I had any guess.
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Four new characters! And all fairly lackluster seeming skill wise
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ok boys equip those weak weapons all you want to level up lowbies
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ok boys equip those weak weapons all you want to level up lowbies
All we really need is EXP Share, get on that shit pls
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Oh dang, new characters so soon? Not bad. Hopefully we get some more characters from these games later along, but I'm impressed by how quick this was. Not necessarily that impressed by the stats on any of them, but they're definitely not awful.
And of course the five-stars remain weighted toward swords. Which is fine by me I guess since my blue character is also a dragon, so the more diluted the pool gets the fewer Falchion users we should see. Not great news for Camilla, but is reasonably good news for Corrin.
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Most tier lists seem to have Lin ranked on the low end of the sword lords, but I've been really happy with her so far. Gale Force is surprisingly practical and it's not hard to get her into +7 attack double hit mode since virtually nothing can double her and nothing short of a very strong hit with weapon advantage can one-shot her. Brave weapons are a bit of an issue, but as long as you play around those she's very dangerous.
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Lyn really isn't a fire-and-forget character, yeah. She needs some support and a lot of planning to use Galeforce effectively, but between that and Sol Katti's bonus, she's got a fantastic sweep mechanic - just hope that she can get out of combat at least once without getting oneshot.
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I'd like to take a moment to appreciate just how awesome the name Sol Katti is
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Fun fact: Lyn is the first(?) Fire Emblem character to receive jiggle physics when she upgrades to the Sol Katti in her original game.
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Oh man, remember Great Lord Lyn's critical hit animations? I want a chibi version of those in Heroes.
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Screw animations, why can't the sword of seals shoot fire like the original? Ranged Roy or Riot!
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I mean, the real answer to that is that the low movement means the devs have decided that weapons that can hit at any range are overpowered. Hence the nerfed magic. And to be fair they're probably right.
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Yeah, after playing the game for a bit I totally agree with the decision to limit close attacks for ranged unit, but on the other hand that just makes the characters with that sort of option (Takumi, Hector, etc.) all the more powerful.
Dumped 40 orbs on this banner, mostly got stuff I'll never use but I did manage to snag a 5-star Fae. I wanted a manakete and wasn't totally satisfied with my other main green option (Cecilia), so it works out quite well. That she's horribly adorable is a nice bonus.
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Oh dang, new characters so soon? Not bad. Hopefully we get some more characters from these games later along, but I'm impressed by how quick this was.
I'd imagine they have resources for quite a few people stored away for a slow burn, really. Don't get surprised if there's quite a few new characters in focii for a while (I recall E/E were even shown in previews at some point.)
The fact that they only hucked 4 in means they're trying to be conservative.
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I'd imagine they have resources for quite a few people stored away for a slow burn, really. Don't get surprised if there's quite a few new characters in focii for a while (I recall E/E were even shown in previews at some point.)
The fact that they only hucked 4 in means they're trying to be conservative.
The steady drip approach is an agreeable one for me. It'll probably keep interest in the game longer than, say... I dunno, Pokemon Go :V
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The steady drip approach is an agreeable one for me. It'll probably keep interest in the game longer than, say... I dunno, Pokemon Go :V
I mean, if they provide it with actual content alongside 4 characters that are fairly similar to existing... sure, maybe.
Otherwise: I give it a month more, tops.
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God damn, I keep fucking up my arena streaks on the last battle by bringing the wrong team. I set up stupid teams for quests and then forget to go back to my normal one.
On the plus side, my current streak is going super well with no units lost in the first three rounds, so if I don't run into anything super crazy or pick the wrong team at the last second yet again my score should be pretty good. Amd I'm guaranteed exactly enough feathers to get to 20k next rotation anyway if I finish this round (hard) of arena quests.
Edit: As for the longevity of the game, so far I'm finding that PVP is keeping me logging in, and occasionally pulling new characters from the free stones the game gives me that I'll then need to level up will give me something to do with my stamina sometimes.
Throw in co-op to fill that conspicuous blank slot on the battle menu and I'm pleasantly engaged. Not to PAD levels, but enough to make things interesting for a while I think.
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well that was fast
(http://i.imgur.com/x2y0NQM.png)
takumi more like dietomi
Dumped 40 orbs on this banner, mostly got stuff I'll never use but I did manage to snag a 5-star Fae. I wanted a manakete and wasn't totally satisfied with my other main green option (Cecilia), so it works out quite well. That she's horribly adorable is a nice bonus.
fae is great and draw back is great and you should abuse the fuck out of it
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The Takumi you killed is better than the Takumi I killed.
Really wish replays or at least team compositions were available for defenses. Would love to know how my team is beating people since it's pretty far from ideal. Just raw Takumi power I guess?
Speaking of which, has anyone found a reliable budget four-star Takumi counter? I'm guessing a mounted unit with a brave weapon would be the pretty handy, or maybe some kind of knife-user.
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yeah really wish there were replays that's a great idea
setsuna's bowbreaker might be a good option, just reading through the list of skills. Seems like a good first turn play to initiate with
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Really wish replays or at least team compositions were available for defenses. Would love to know how my team is beating people since it's pretty far from ideal. Just raw Takumi power I guess?
Any one of your 5* can take out a takumi alone probably
first attack brave axe is a kill
lyn can probably double takumi with 33 spd
depending on which takumi strikes first, one kills the other with vengeance
i'm just going to assume felicia killed takumi because that is the only acceptable outcome
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Any one of your 5* can take out a takumi alone probably
first attack brave axe is a kill
lyn can probably double takumi with 33 spd
depending on which takumi strikes first, one kills the other with vengeance
i'm just going to assume felicia killed takumi because that is the only acceptable outcome
My best guess for how I won that defense is bad play on the part of my opponent coupled with the fact that my team is probably pretty good at punishing mistakes. Lyn can double most Takumis and should be able to one-round-kill him, although if they're playing correctly the human player has a huge advantage in Takumi-versus-Takumi battles since he's easy to bait. Camilla actually can't beat him one-one-one though, at least not usually. She can quadruple strike him, but under normal circumstances he doesn't die from the first two hits and kills her before the last two. She is handy for chipping him down to let my Takumi one-shot some opposing Takumis with Savage Blow though.
I think Setsuna seems like a decent counter, although I'd have to take a closer look to see how the actual stats match up. It's worth noting that enemy teams with both Setsuna and Takumi are relatively common in my experience, so maybe people are already doing that.
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Finally got a couple more 5-stars. Now my team is pretty much Tiki and the Glass Cannons - Y.Tiki+Jeorge+Linde+Camilla. I've been trying to stick Effie in there somewhere, but she's just sooooo slooooowww.
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I don't know about anybody else, but I'm having a blast with PVP right now. I realize I'm very lucky in that I have a super usable if not perfectly optimal team which not everyone has, but the tension of trying to get perfect sweeps every round and trying not to break streaks is a lot of fun for me. Really scratches my Fire Emblem itch.
Still totally getting my ass kicked by Azura though. Gotta get good at using her against her team by making them split up when they shouldn't, but the computer tends to move her in weird ways that make setting up situations like that unpredictable. I've seen her very low on tier lists, which is insane. Just like Fates Azura was always low on the tier lists of people who don't know how to play Fire Emblem, she deserves much much better. Not sure I'm quite willing to call her the best character in Heroes like I do for her in Fates, but she's honestly close. She's definitely my main/possibly only want right now. Although I do like the idea of playing a Camilla theme team with Camilla/Beruka/Selena/Corrin and I don't own Beruka or Selena, so they're up there too.
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Are you talking about sing/dance characters in general, or azura in particular? don't know what her other skills are actually
I pulled a four-star Caeda, so my hinoka and camilla could potentially get another buff-er (and seeing camilla with +6 on all stats is hilarious) I don't whether I should take out marth for that or my somewhat floating felicia. Marth is my only non-flying tanky character on the team so I would have reservations against that. Felicia's my only debuff ranged user so taking her out would be a little ehh. I guess she would be the one to go if I haad to chose between the two.
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Are you talking about sing/dance characters in general, or azura in particular? don't know what her other skills are actually
azura's skills are stab the shit out of you with a spear and it hurts really bad
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Are you talking about sing/dance characters in general, or azura in particular? don't know what her other skills are actually
I pulled a four-star Caeda, so my hinoka and camilla could potentially get another buff-er (and seeing camilla with +6 on all stats is hilarious) I don't whether I should take out marth for that or my somewhat floating felicia. Marth is my only non-flying tanky character on the team so I would have reservations against that. Felicia's my only debuff ranged user so taking her out would be a little ehh. I guess she would be the one to go if I haad to chose between the two.
Azura specifically, since she's actually a really good character as well as having Sing, so you basically get a full team AND sing. And as I've said before blue is the best-placed color by a long shot right now, so she can get a ton of work done.
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FINALLY beat 9-2 on lunatic. It's, uh, super difficult so I had been struggling with it. Now I just have the last chapter on lunatic left to go. No idea how tricky it is, I haven't even looked at it yet.
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FREEZE this is the police
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you have the right to remain topless
Now I just have the last chapter on lunatic left to go. No idea how tricky it is, I haven't even looked at it yet.
prepare to be utterly ruined if you don't have someone blue that hits res
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I do but it's Corrin and she's a four-star until next week. I'll wait to do it then I guess.
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I do but it's Corrin and she's a four-star until next week. I'll wait to do it then I guess.
I used 3*Lv40 corrin 4* is fine
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FINALLY beat 9-2 on lunatic. It's, uh, super difficult so I had been struggling with it. Now I just have the last chapter on lunatic left to go. No idea how tricky it is, I haven't even looked at it yet.
9-2 was the easiest for me because of Tiki and Effie. I had to cheese the rest with the res item. Used two of those fuckers on The Unknown.
I got Cordelia, Nowi and Merric at 4* recently. Especially happy about Merric because I really needed a green mage. Not Nino, though...
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"I guess I'll try the gacha again for some more units to use"
*FLASHY ANIMATION, VOICE CLIP OF ROBIN*
"ah nice I almost have a full team's worth of 5*s"
*3* Robin*
why
it's like the good old days of PAD where you rolled a gold egg but it was just an evolved healer girl or something
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Unlike in PAD though, you can plausibly make that a 5* if you want to. I'm doing it. You could too.
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Gave 9-5 a shot on Lunatic. Yeah, I think it's pretty doable, but it's going to take some shuffling. There are a handful of unfortunate instances of enemies hitting EXACTLY hard enough to one-shot my guys in different matchups that I really shouldn't lose outright.
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My current arena team has 3 physical reds and a Takumi, so my entire team is countered by a single Robin, RIP.
(https://puu.sh/u6KSi/509e470cdc.png)
I've been training up a Robin from 3* to deal with enemy Takumis, but in retrospect I've never had any trouble with Takumi since he's easy to take down with Olivia's support. What I really need is a green power hitter to rip through the tanky blues I have trouble with. Immediate thoughts are Gunter, Cherche, or Raven, but they're all somewhat on the slow side. Raven can probably guarantee a kill on blue squishies with his Brave Axe, Cherche's hammer makes Effies into snacktime for Minerva, and Gunther has great attack buffing and counters debuffs. The biggest problem though is that I just wouldn't know who to replace on my team. Maaaaybe Lyn because she's not a Nowi-killer or anti-everything-that-flies or the amazing utility that is Dance, but she's amazing when under half health. I guess I'll just keep trying to bruce force Robins by running up to him and hitting him with my entire team at close quarters.
Unrelated, but my Clarine now has 600+ extra SP from all the healing she does. I wonder if they'll give us a way to spend SP in the future aside from just getting skills.
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I would love some kind of mechanic to spend a shitload of SP to change your character's nature. Most of mine are... pretty fucking unfavorable.
Doesn't Takumi beat Robin one-on-one anyway if you bait him into hitting first? How much damage does a Takumi do to a Robin? Should be enough that you can finish him off with Lyn I would think, but I don't know for sure. I usually kill him with Camilla.
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I'm not sure, as I usually don't try to find out and just charge him at melee. The main issue is usually positioning, as always.
Also, 1.5 exp event, nintendo pls.
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My marth is more useful than I first thought in arena. Currently my team is split into the fliers (hinoka camilla caeda) and marth. My strategy involves sending marth off to deal with one group of enemies while I get the fliers in the right formation to buff whoever needs buffing to deal with the wave. He's decently tanky and fast enough not to get outsped. I let him deal with a green or red until he gets to half health then teleport him behind my fliers formation. His auto heal ability kicks in by the time the enemies distracted by marth make their way to my core units, so I have to only deal with about half of the enemy at a time. And he's ready to be used again without dying too so double neato.
The dragon slaying ability pretty much guarantees a win against dragon teams too.
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Yeah, all of the dragon slayers running around are a bitch for FCorrin since she gas weapon advantage over them yet they still at least match her damage output. Really shrinks her niche down a lot since she's a lance user who has a huge disadvantage versus a large chunk of swords users and low resistance so she can't easily handle red tomes or red dragons.
She's too cool not to use and she does still have a lot of interesting utility, but I can see why most people don't like her.
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How the heck did I repel a takumi team with 3 flyers
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Brave weapons fuck his shit up, at least sometimes. My best guess is that he got greedy.
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How come FCorrin seems to get dragon typing while MCorrin doesn't?
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How come FCorrin seems to get dragon typing while MCorrin doesn't?
Because her weapon is a dragonstone, so she actually turns into a dragon during combat. Male Corrin uses Yato so he doesn't actually appear as a dragon. Wouldn't have been wrong for them to give him dragon typing since as I recall Corrin takes extra damage from Wyrmslayer in human form, but it might have been a little confusing.
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100 orbs spent, 2 5*, Kagero and Takumi. Holding a little over 100 orbs now and I'm just hoarding for some time when the sub-5* pool gets noticeably-larger. Because I'm playing this game based on the assumption I'm going to have to promote everyone to 5*. Too bad I don't like PVP and I just do Beginner Arena 3x a day, so I'll never have enough feathers.
Corrin takes extra damage from Wyrmslayer in human form
I think that's only if you have the Dragonstone equipped.
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I think that's only if you have the Dragonstone equipped.
In Fates that's definitely not the case. I've lost runs to dudes coming up with Dragon Spirits and smacking Corrin on 30% hit rate with them with the Yato on.
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When someone says "I think" it means "I may or may not be right about this". I just couldn't remember if I saw that "green extra damage number" on an enemy with a Wyrmslayer because I reclass Corrin into something that doesn't use Dragonstones at all.
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Too bad I don't like PVP and I just do Beginner Arena 3x a day, so I'll never have enough feathers.
There's no harm in doing at least intermediate so you can get more feathers from your offensive score, especially if you have both Kagero and Takumi.
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i have lost control of my life
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See that's one of the problems with Camilla... She's rare so I can't get four easily. And, you know, that would be an awful team because she's very situational. I may have to settle for Camilla/Beruka/Selena/Corrin, but I'm still missing two members and that's still a bad team, so whateveeeeer.
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See that's one of the problems with Camilla... She's rare so I can't get four easily. And, you know, that would be an awful team because she's very situational. I may have to settle for Camilla/Beruka/Selena/Corrin, but I'm still missing two members and that's still a bad team, so whateveeeeer.
I already got my 251 score so i'm just waiting for people to run into this one and lose their marbles
and in the event I see someone die to it I will savor the victory forever
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Uhh, i know i don't post much here, but anyways, what are the major counter chars for Red Units ? They seemed preeeeetty plentiful on my battles.
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Seems like male Robin does a pretty decent job of countering them, and Takumi as well, given that few of the many red sword characters have good resist. Similarly female Corrin and Nowi are good at beating them up, but being dragons means they get hit much harder than they really should because a lot of popular red characters incidentally do bonus damage to dragons. Azura is likely the best character in the game straight-up, so she would be amazing if you have her. As for budget options, Peri seems fairly solid since she handles physical and magic characters both in different ways, and Effie seems popular if a little tricky to use effectively since she's so slow.
Personally I get away without having a direct counter to sword characters by baiting them into first-hitting me with Takumi and Lyn. A Lyn at low health mops up most red characters, and virtually all of them if they have a little chip damage first (like from Camilla).
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Today is best maid and her sister's birthday everyone go pay tribute
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I'm a little stumped as to which Tiki I should keep. One's a -HP +DEF and the other's a -RES +SPD. The former seems alright, but for the other - I'm not sure if the extra speed is worth the res for what is turning out as my tank.
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Is - HP/+DEF or +RES weighted differently than other natures? If you lose and gain an equivalent amount of both stats then that's a pretty shitty deal since you still have the other defensive stat at normal levels but less HP overall,which just translates to straight-up less durability. I suppose it takes less healing to recover from an attack on the correct defense so it's not strictly worse, and some heroes like Lyn arguably want lower HP, but it seems like one of the worst natures to me.
Meanwhile I took the time to grind SP with Lyn in the training tower to finally max out her Spur Speed, which had been at the second-to-highest tier forever since I spent all of her SP on Gale Force. It's actually been making a huge difference. Straight-up turned two arena wins with three survivors into wins with four survivors already. Amazing what +1 speed does, especially on someone fairly slow like Takumi or someone extremely fast like Lyn.
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can't do your best if u dead
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some event is supposedly happening soon that will use your friends list, details unknown
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I just had a PVP run where I only lost a single character in seven battles, and it bumped my rank up to the 1000-feather rank. I've been popping in and out of there all week, but I'm nearly in the next rank, so maybe I'll stay there this time. This is basically 50 points below the maximum possible score I can get at this point, so that's good and bad.
Unfortunately I finished my hard arena quests in the process and didn't go to claim my reward until like six battles in, so I wasted some arena wins. Oh well.
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Is - HP/+DEF or +RES weighted differently than other natures? If you lose and gain an equivalent amount of both stats then that's a pretty shitty deal since you still have the other defensive stat at normal levels but less HP overall,which just translates to straight-up less durability. I suppose it takes less healing to recover from an attack on the correct defense so it's not strictly worse, and some heroes like Lyn arguably want lower HP, but it seems like one of the worst natures to me.
Meanwhile I took the time to grind SP with Lyn in the training tower to finally max out her Spur Speed, which had been at the second-to-highest tier forever since I spent all of her SP on Gale Force. It's actually been making a huge difference. Straight-up turned two arena wins with three survivors into wins with four survivors already. Amazing what +1 speed does, especially on someone fairly slow like Takumi or someone extremely fast like Lyn.
They're weighted the same. A + adds 3, while a - subtracts 3. It sounds like the +3 SPD in exchange for RES might be better then.
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I didn't feel like bumping that old fe thread so I'll post here since it's somewhat related.
Finally got back to trying to finish that blind conquest lunatic run I took a hiatus on like half a year ago. Took another two days, but finally beat sakura's stage.
took a peak at the next mission before deciding to take a quick breather on my first child paralogue. This dumb kid why are you on a launcher? Why are you up on a wall with three launchers? At least I have my whole army now instead of dealing with two divided ones.
And even if I can accept the handwaving of the child growing up in some alternate dimension while still somehow growing up emotionally healthy and yet also affectionate towards their parents, it still takes the mother 9 months to actually make the child...? While she's fighting a war?!
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(http://i.imgur.com/23WfiZ4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/E2M8HAT.jpg)
Hooray!
Meanwhile, even after five more pulls I still have nothing featured in the arena this season, so RIP my rank I guess.
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I thought you had Narcian?
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You're right, I do have Narcian. Didn't realize that was him at first. Hmm. Wonder if it's worth leveling him just to have one bonus unit? I don't really want to invest any feathers in him.
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Probably not worth 2k or more feathers especially since you already have Camilla, but you might try throwing him on your team and trying to run a 3v4. That's my current plan, although I have yet to test whether a level 20 or so 3* Narcian can actually do anything in arena, in which case it might be better keeping him low leveled just to make my matches easier. But apparently a single bonus unit gives 2x to score, so yeah.
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I got a Julia, but... dragon units are not particularly concerning to me.
That said, I did get Cherche, who rounds out my flier crew with an axe user. It also gives me a trio of Armorslayer, Heavy Lance, and Hammers all on flying units, because why not
rip if I encounter a bow though
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But apparently a single bonus unit gives 2x to score, so yeah.
Oh dang. There must either be significant diminishing returns on stacking featured units or rank 4 battles are worth much more, because that alone would make my wins equivalent to last week when I had 3/4 featured characters.
Rip if I encounter a bow though
Rip if you encounter a bow Takumi though.
Who's the fourth member of the flying squad? Setsuna or MRobin would probably be solid picks to counter archers.
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i'm running with ODIN DARK because he sucks and we sucky people need to stick together
rip if I encounter a bow though
so basically 90% of the time because takumi is everywhere
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So as an example of how a 5* and a 4* differ in stats, this is 5* FCorrin at max level.
(http://i.imgur.com/3wbTGvA.jpg)
Compare to her 4* max stats that I posted earlier. Everything goes up a bit, ATK is a whopping +5. Definitely a huge swing.
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I feel like there are so much more reds and blues than green enemies in the high training layers, which makes getting those last few levels for my red units a lot more annoying than grinding green or blue units.
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I drunkenly spent the rest of my orbs and got a Julia.
Kind of sad because she and Fae tend to take up the same slots, though.
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Uh... Corrin...
(http://i.imgur.com/msn3i3c.jpg)
UUUUUUH...
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(http://i.imgur.com/JoYRxl5.jpg)
Uh... Corrin...
(http://i.imgur.com/msn3i3c.jpg)
UUUUUUH...
patted by her noodly appendage
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In case anyone's figured it out, how do tiers work? My tier has been going up just from chaining Beginner difficulty players, and I'm not sure why.
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FCorrin has been performing even better than expected in PVP. She does beat all Falchion users and red dragons one-on-one in a vacuum although she does take a beating, but her most important asset is definitely her shadow breath. If you can nail the whole enemy team with it, which isn't really difficult, the debuff is so crippling that with a bit of care with your positioning you can generally just rush in and jump the enemy team with the rest of your characters and expect to go 4-0.
I wonder if an optimal team to make full use of her might not have a few mounted and flying heavy hitters to best flank the enemy team once they get Shadow Breathed, with preferably at least one but maybe even two of them being tome users to take full advantage of her Seal Resist. Interesting, Corrin/Camilla/Leo/Elise seems like it might be a really fucking good team...
In case anyone's figured it out, how do tiers work? My tier has been going up just from chaining Beginner difficulty players, and I'm not sure why.
My understanding is that each season your rank is determined by your score relative to everyone else at that point in time. So it should constantly fluctuate as everyone else's and your scores change (it might be calculated at certain intervals or it might be real time, I don't know). Keep in mind that early in the season most players won't have gotten their full seven-win streak yet, so until the third full day at least it'll be very volatile.
Do you have any of the featured characters? Since very few people seem to this time around having even one on your team should massively inflate your score. I'm working on raising up Narcian now hoping the rest of my team can carry him through seven wins, but if you have one of the new 5*s you'll be at a huge advantage.
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4k score with 3* odin gg
(http://i.imgur.com/1yjzFYG.png)
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Oh, huh, I have both the pegasus knight girl and Odin. I also got a Julia from my last pull, but green units in a meta full of sword users?
Ahh.
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green units in a meta full of sword users?
Say that to the Nino fanboys
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*ahem*
Pack a blue unit to bodyguard green waifus.
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Speaking of green mages, we're getting Female Robin tomorrow as a special battle (like Narcian).
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Ooh, nice! I guess I just assumed she was in the REM and I just hadn't seen her. Do want.
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Man, how does rank even work? I just got a 4135 total score and I'm still unranked.
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Man, how does rank even work? I just got a 4135 total score and I'm still unranked.
I'm like rank 13k so you probably need to wait until the next hour rolls over for it to actually update
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Yeah, just updated.
Doubt I'll do better than that, but I'll give it another go after I get Julia online.
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Ooh, nice! I guess I just assumed she was in the REM and I just hadn't seen her. Do want.
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In case anyone's figured it out, how do tiers work? My tier has been going up just from chaining Beginner difficulty players, and I'm not sure why.
If I'm getting your question right, uhh, dunno! I think anyone who participated in the last three arena seasons is a Sable Knight now.
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Leveling completely fucking awful characters (read: Narcian) is really annoying. He's been tending to die at the last second after I spend an entire Training Tower run feeding him. Ugh. I'm sure if I bumped him up to four stars, or god forbid five, he would do much better. But I don't want to.
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I finally got my first 5* (amidst a summoning run that ended with everyone else being 3*s no less). The fact that it was Eirika allowed me to finish that quest where I could get the 20 great azure badges as well, so that means I can upgrade my male Robin into a 5* once I get some more feathers.
I'm pretty satisfied.
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Ahahahaha what even is this new banner.
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Uh... Corrin...
UUUUUUH...
skinship feature confirmed for next update
I wonder when they're going to release queen/princess what's-her-face from the storyline
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Veronica
IIRC
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skinship feature confirmed for next update
I wonder when they're going to release queen/princess what's-her-face from the storyline
Oops shit I accidentally Kanna. :v
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So, like... what exactly am I supposed to do with all my various dupes?
I know now that merging them is kinda pointless because any benefits from merging go away after you increase their ranking, so... what, do I just sell them?
My army of six three-star Ests is dying to know.
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(http://i.imgur.com/JoYRxl5.jpg)
Uh... Corrin...
(http://i.imgur.com/msn3i3c.jpg)
UUUUUUH...
@commandercool And that night the tears of many Fates fans were shed due to lack of petting game. (also your Camilla keeps coming to my base halp.)
On that note: Female Robin's special map is way more easier than the first one by a long shot.
Edit: I'VE ACTUALLY WANTED VERONICA TOO TBH! (Still wondering why Xander isn't in the gacha machine yet, so I can complete my Fates collection)
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(also your Camilla keeps coming to my base halp.)
You got any Corrins in there? She probly wants to hug all your Corrins.
(Still wondering why Xander isn't in the gacha machine yet, so I can complete my Fates collection)
He's was in the same boat as FRobin in my mind, where I just assumed he was in the gacha but I incidentally hadn't seen him yet. So maybe he'll get a special dungeon like hers soon.
As far as I recall his bit of the story was never resolved, right? He just said he was joining the bad guys of his own free will and then he did? Maybe he'll get a paralogue that addresses that.
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You got any Corrins in there? She probly wants to hug all your Corrins.
I have a female one.
As far as I recall his bit of the story was never resolved, right? He just said he was joining the bad guys of his own free will and then he did? Maybe he'll get a paralogue that addresses that.
I do hope so or maybe it's a reference from what Corrin did on Conquest.
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I do hope so or maybe it's a reference from what Corrin did on Conquest.
Or even what Xander did in Conquest where he worked for the evil guys but looked for small ways to make things better.
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robin map was a friggin joke compared to narcian map
free 150 feathers
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robin map was a friggin joke compared to narcian map
free 150 feathers
Ahahahahahahahaha XD
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My army of six three-star Ests is dying to know.
If you're ever planning on using Est, the amount of feathers you would have lost by merging instead of selling is recouped with an appropriate feather discount upon promotion. So there's that. Otherwise...I guess if were a dedicated Est fanboy you could promote them all to 5* and merge for the +2 stats increase at 20k feathers a pop.
free 150 feathers
Watch the next arena bonus be FRobin, Fir, Hawkeye, Tiki, and Minerva's sister.
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Well, speaking of how to use extra units...
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/834963564049887233
Apparently you have to send a unit home to transfer their skills though.
In any case I can see this being horribly broken if implemented badly, RIP game.
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Uh... Yeah, I see this being PVP-bending in the extreme.
Which I'm almost kind of looking forward to in the sense that it'll make things interesting, but yeah, I'm concerned about the fabric of the game being torn asunder. We'll see.
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Apparently you have to send a unit home to transfer their skills though.
In any case I can see this being horribly broken if implemented badly, RIP game.
I'd bet the 'sending units home' won't make it past idea stage.
Nintendo's been preparing for that, for sure, but holy shit, no one is THAT stupid, right?
If it is though, holy shit, I'm kind of terrified at how willingly Nintendo is absolutely pushing the limits.
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I could see this being maybe interesting and balanced if it's limited to a subset of simple and non-game-warping abilities. No Escape Route, no Wings Of Mercy, no stapling Brave Sword to things. Just stuff like stat buffs, Threaten skills, and maybe like... silver weapons would be interesting? Maybe? But that wouldn't heavily favor whales, so I suspect that won't be, you know, the case.
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I could see this being maybe interesting and balanced if it's limited to a subset of simple and non-game-warping abilities. No Escape Route, no Wings Of Mercy, no stapling Brave Sword to things. Just stuff like stat buffs, Threaten skills, and maybe like... silver weapons would be interesting? Maybe? But that wouldn't heavily favor whales, so I suspect that won't be, you know, the case.
I imagine you can just, take a look at what letter is open on your characters and guess what they can inherit. So yeah, there's gonna be busted shit.
No way around it.
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Putting lancebreaker on sword units :V
... or Vantage on takumi :V :V
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Vantage Takumi wouldn't actually be too bad for me the way I kill Takumis (let them first hit my Takumi and then have him finish them off on my turn). Bowbreaker Takumi though...
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... or Vantage on takumi :V :V
this won't actually do much if people one-round him or use tanks/different characters/healers
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Honestly what I want more than anything else is additional movement options, like putting shove or draw back on units without them
With any luck you won't be able to transfer dance though
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Fire Emblem does have a precedent of locking down Dance in situations like this, yeah.
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In a matter of a couple days I went from like rank 11k to rank 31k.
Thankfully managed to grind out a ~4300 score, I hope it's enough because I seriously doubt I can do any better without getting incredibly lucky.
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Yeah, if everyone else was leveling Narcian throughout the week like I was then I think ranks are probably going to get shaken up quite a lot. I went from unranked with a pathetically bad score to 33k with a ~4200 score in a few days.
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More units. They seem fairly decent, but I think 5 cd is a bit impractical for arena.
Does quick riposte work if attacked out of range?
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Dear game,
I appreciate your blessing of 5-star units, but the last three have all been green.
Please gimme a 5-star blue? :(
Love, Edible.
(Got Raven out of the banner. ... Why is he an axe user?)
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Of my last 20 pulls, 18 have been 3* and two have been 4*. Meanwhile out of his last 20 pulls my roommate has gotten four 5*s, seven 4*s, and nine 3*s. I know I don't have much right to complain since I do have plenty of nice stuff, but still... dang.
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Of my last 20 pulls, 18 have been 3* and two have been 4*. Meanwhile out of his last 20 pulls my roommate has gotten four 5*s, seven 4*s, and nine 3*s. I know I don't have much right to complain since I do have plenty of nice stuff, but still... dang.
I've been pulling 4 and 3 stars from left to right and it's not funny that it's all dupes.
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I've been pulling 4 and 3 stars from left to right and it's not funny that it's all dupes.
Think about how cheap your 5*-ing of those things will be if you fuse em into the originals! (or just how many feathers you're getting otherwise)
Anyway, any news on more new stages to play(paralougues etc) for those not interested in grinding the training tower forever to level up their units? Uninstalled a while ago because it got monotonous very fast and was just wondering if there's some stuff to pull me back in yet or not enough at this time.
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Think about how cheap your 5*-ing of those things will be if you fuse em into the originals! (or just how many feathers you're getting otherwise)
Anyway, any news on more new stages to play(paralougues etc) for those not interested in grinding the training tower forever to level up their units? Uninstalled a while ago because it got monotonous very fast and was just wondering if there's some stuff to pull me back in yet or not enough at this time.
Um just paralouges and a new gacha that's all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6E3a8jJtA
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Fuckin' crikey. Get today's free orbs, do another 20-pull, get three 5* - Roy, Abel, and Fae. This is notable because I had been leveling up a 4* Roy and Abel, using my 5* Fae as a support. <_< Oh well, back to the trash pile with them.
Looking at the merge preview for Fae, it doesn't seem like it gives her anything but +1 HP, so I'm not going to bother for now.
In other news, I'll finally be able to go over 20k feathers tomorrow. Never decided who I was going to get to 5*, but I think it might be Olivia. Only have her at 2* right now, but it would be fun to actually play with Dance since I doubt I'm ever getting Azura.
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Maybe the metagame is shifting or maybe I'm just seeing weird teams incidentally, but unlike last week having a 3* Narcian on my team has been a huge liability so far this week. Seen a few different Takumi/Robin/lance wielder/lance wielder teams and swapping out Camilla for an incredibly shitty budget version of her has made a huge difference.
Which team you defend with depends on what's in your first team slot, right? It occurs that if the goal is to basically just consistently get a few defense wins a week to hit the low ceiling then a weird, imbalanced team might be your best bet. Most teams will probably handle Takumi+three axe users or whatever fairly easily, but you'll catch a few people off guard and they may find that they can't handle something unexpected. Might be an easy way to fish for a few wins.
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Based on my recent Arena runs, the common strategy appears to place as many Takumis as possible in the same team.
I came across a double Takumi double Azura team earlier. :|
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Based on my recent Arena runs, the common strategy appears to place as many Takumis as possible in the same team.
I came across a double Takumi double Azura team earlier. :|
"I'm in charge now!" ~ Takumi the Pirate
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Takumi is so stupid broken. Whose dumb idea was it to make him so ridiculous?
Trying to grind arena for the sake of feathers because they're also ridiculously hard to collect (again, what the fuck? this is just bad game design tbh), and it's a struggle. Currently running Azura/Camilla/Julia (who is a BEAST omg)/Clarine. There are just TOO MANY red units in the meta, it's absurd.
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You kind of gotta have a plan for Takumi. Mine's easy mode because it's just using another Takumi, but I think for the specific job of Takumi guarding another archer might be as good if not maybe even a bit better. A mounted Brave character seems good too. I'm not trying to argue that he's balanced, he isn't at all, but there are a few good counters to him.
As for the sword users... Yeah. That's bad. All I can say to that is, hope you got some good blue units. From doing about 20 battles today I think I saw as many blue-heavy teams as red ones, so thete might be an anti-meta developing. Maybe.
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Takumi is so stupid broken. Whose dumb idea was it to make him so ridiculous?
I feel like IS wanted to continue the meme of him being super broken as he was in his source game, complete with him actually being able to attack at 1 range as an enemy there as well.
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Trying to grind arena for the sake of feathers because they're also ridiculously hard to collect (again, what the fuck? this is just bad game design tbh), and it's a struggle. Currently running Azura/Camilla/Julia (who is a BEAST omg)/Clarine. There are just TOO MANY red units in the meta, it's absurd.
At the moment I think running a healer in arena just isn't worth it because most healers can't heal enough to prevent the OHKOs/THKOs, unless you have noticeably tanky units.
Maybe the metagame is shifting or maybe I'm just seeing weird teams incidentally, but unlike last week having a 3* Narcian on my team has been a huge liability so far this week. Seen a few different Takumi/Robin/lance wielder/lance wielder teams and swapping out Camilla for an incredibly shitty budget version of her has made a huge difference.
My Narcian actually does surprising damage to lance teams given he's only 3*, but otherwise he's a liability yeah and most of the time I just fly him around the map away from all the teleporting Marth+Olivia combos. Wish he did a little better against Robin because Robin counters the other 3 units on my team but oh well.
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Yeah, having a healer is kind of pointless right now. I've been reading tier lists and it seems that Lissa is better than Clarine anyway, so I'm working on her instead.
In fact, I'm working on a bunch of 3/4*s right now because they become pretty good later on, like Robin (male), Chrom, and both Corrins. Corrin (male) seems to be pretty excellent so far.
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I kind of like healers actually. My team is a lot of fragile but fast units who can't really be doubled but generally die to two hits from anything. A healer helps those (Lyn, -HP Takumi, Camilla) quite a lot. I eventually replaced Serra on my team with FCorrin for quite a lot of extra bulk, but I would consider running a healer with the right team. Also notably Rehabilitate heals A TON to characters who are at critical health, so it might be worth running with very bulky units.
Also notably all healers are attack magnets, which can be an acceptable panic button to keep your win condition safe to secure a 3-character win, or even a means of just wasting an opponent's attack if your healer is bulky enough to survive.
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(http://i.imgur.com/mg9xEOA.jpg)
Best run so far. It's just sad that feathers are so PATHETICALLY rationed that I still won't even have enough to 5* a unit even if I get maximum rewards in offense and defense.
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I'm *still* running Effie/Tiki/
GunterNarcian/Lissa. Like you guys mentioned, Rehabilitate is absolutely amazing. Off the top of my head, it's a guaranteed full heal if your unit is under 25%, will heal you up to 80% if you're under half and is, uh, a bit abysmal otherwise, but that's fine. Effie likes taking more than half damage, hitting back hard and getting fullhealed by Lissa. Very. Much. I had an arena match where I was up against Hector alone with Effie and Lissa, Hector dealt over half damage to Effie and Effie did 1dmg in retaliation. Guess who won the match after 5 minutes? This guy. :fail:
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Hm. What's the key to scoring higher in Arena? I just did another 7-win streak doing almost all Advanced against people 2 ranks higher than me and I'm only sitting at around 3.3k. Man, I kited all of those Takumi for nothing. :matsuriscowl:
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Hm. What's the key to scoring higher in Arena? I just did another 7-win streak doing almost all Advanced against people 2 ranks higher than me and I'm only sitting at around 3.3k. Man, I kited all of those Takumi for nothing. :matsuriscowl:
-Don't have any characters die
-Use at least 1 featured character, doesn't matter who it is, and doesn't matter if you use more than that.
-The higher your team's average stat total, the more valuable opponents you'll face. This also means that using certain units are better because some characters inherently have higher stat totals than others (Usually armored, 1-move dudes have the highest to make up for lack of move)
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Ah, I see. In a lot of rounds where I fight way over my head, I usually finish with 1 or 2 survivors because I usually have to sacrifice someone to the forever broken Takumi lol
and statwise I'm not thaaaaat great oops
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Just get your characters to level 40 (especially your heavy hitters) and your score should increase.
3333 feather login bonus is nice, but I'm not sure who I want to promote to 5*.
New event looks interesting I guess.
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Ooh, this event is interesting. Lucina wins in a landslide despite not being terribly interesting, right? I'll be backing Elise I guess.
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Switch event and another popularity poll (inb4Lucinafanboyshelpherwin) Imma back up Elise. Hmm... gonna get the 140 and 35 orb set to start pulling more, I'll post the results.
Rolls and Heroes -
First roll set: 2 greys, 2 reds, and 1 blue.
Result: dupe 3 star Gaius, 4 star dupe adult Tiki, 5 star LACHESIS (FUCK YEAH!), 3 star dupe Donnel, and 3 star dupe Olivia.
Comment: This is fine.
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Second roll set: 3 BLUES!?!, 1 gray, and 1 green.
Result: 4 star dupe Est, OOOOOOOOOH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD HINOKA!!! 5 star!!! YES PLEASE!!! -fangirls-, dupe 4 star Oboro, 4 star dupe Arthur, and 4 star Jeorge.
Comment: THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY :*
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Third roll set: 2 reds, 1 gray, and 2 blue.
Result: 4 star Catria, 3 star Florina, SHTAP GIVING ME 3 STAR GAIUS!!!!, 4 star Draug (who?), and dupe 3 star Eliwood (already have 4 star nty).
Comment: Meh rolls but I'll take it
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Fourth roll set: 2 reds, 2 blues, and 1 green.
Result: dupe 4 star Adult Tiki, 4 star Subaki (Sakura and retainers set complete), 4 star Seliph (he was the last focus yes?), dupe 3 star Subaki, and dupe 4 star Raven.
Comment: Hrm... my luck is weird
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Fifth roll set: 3 blues, 1 gray, and 1 green.
Result: 3 star Odin/Owen, dupe 3 star Florina, dupe 3 star Jagen, 3 star Setsuna, and dupe 3 star Arthur.
Comment: CHA-CHING JACKPOT FOR 3 STARS KILL ME!!!!
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Sixth roll set: 2 greens, 2 grays, and 1 blue.
Result: dupe 3 star Nino, 3 star Baruka, dupe 4 star Gordin, dupe 3 star Matthew, and dupe 3 star Jagen.
Comment: Only 1 new Hero gdi!
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Seventh roll set: 3 reds, 1 gray, and 1 blue.
Result: 4 star Caeda, dupe 3 star Odin/Owen, dupe 3 star Raigh, dupe 4 star Eliwood, and 3 star Azama (Hinoka and retainer set complete).
Comment: Meh.
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Eighth roll set: 2 Greens, 2 reds, and 1 blue.
Result: 3 star dupe Donnel, 3 star dupe Hana, 4 star dupe Arthur, 3 star dupe Cecilia, and 5 STAR SANAKI!!!!
Comment: Sanaki on the last red stone came out of nowhere now I can drop suns on people.
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Ninth roll set (Last set of rolls): 3 blue, 1 gray, and 1 green.
Result: 4 star dupe Gwendolyn, 4 star Sully, dupe 3 star Subaki, dupe 3 star Frederick, and 4 star dupe Felicia.
Comment: This has ended on a solemn note.
So happy I got my own Hinoka and 2 of the 6 new focus heros. <3
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people not voting for leo smh what scrubs
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people not voting for leo smh what scrubs
LOL!!!!! Also where's the voting option at btw?
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people not voting for leo smh what scrubs
Leo's a passable brother (in fact he's Best Brother, although out of very slim pickings) but his whole thing is being the secondhand underdog bitch. People shouldn't vote for him. It'd ruin his appeal!
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Leo's a passable brother (in fact he's Best Brother, although out of very slim pickings) but his whole thing is being the secondhand underdog bitch. People shouldn't vote for him. It'd ruin his appeal!
whaaaaa
also I found out yesterday on pixiv that takumi is a lot more popular there than leo by a wide margin, to my disappointment
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Leo's a passable brother (in fact he's Best Brother, although out of very slim pickings) but his whole thing is being the secondhand underdog bitch. People shouldn't vote for him. It'd ruin his appeal!
i don't think he's a bitch by any stretch since he has the highest killcount in fates across all cutscenes
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He's overcompensating!
Really wish that killtacular murderism carried over to his in-game stats...
Edit: In Fates I mean, he seems really great in Heroes.
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God
If Xander wasn't such a fuckass, the last battle on Lunatic would be cake. But as it is, even my exists-to-oneshot-guys-like-Xander 5* Abel can't kill him.
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FCorrin goofs him up pretty bad if you've got her, but he is SUPER bitchy.
Didn't help that my -HP Takumi gets exactly one-shotted by the princess lady and like everyone on my teams gets one-shotted by the mages after one round of Savage Blow damage. It's doable, but you gotta have a compatible team and be VERY careful with positioning.
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even 3* fcorrin > lunatic xander
felicia > veronica
make sure everyone else can deal with the other dudes
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(https://puu.sh/uxQhy/89f25f8873.jpg)
It begins. Remember to set your main unit to something that will be useful to your teammates!
edit: fixed screenshot, forum software does a bad job at downscaling huh
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This Voting Battle is interesting. You get two (mostly) completely random units from other people on your team, and you 3v3 other random units on the opposing team with those two and your leader. It should be noted that you can complete the monthly quests this way if you are given units that match the criteria. It's also fun trying out all the other units I otherwise don't have, like getting a Tharja who has Hone Res, because Felicia just absolutely needs to laugh in Linde's face.
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Observations about tge voting gauntlet so far:
-Three-on-three with mostly random teams seems to lead to a lot of basically unwinnable matchups (my Camilla and two healers vs three sword lords).
-Takumi seems even more degenerate here than usual, but I haven't seen him yet (out of an admittedly tiny sample size). Similarly with Robin since mitigating two big parts of the meta with one character is very valuable in situations like this.
-The character you have set in your share slot doesn't have to be the character you use. Who you bring from your own collection is the character in the first slot of your selected team, not your first team.
-Battling every half hour seems like a kind of bad decision. Seems like it gives a huge edge to the jobless.
-Featured heroes from the tournament, huh? More chances to get Leo is good. Now I regret using stones yesterday, although I got nothing notable as usual so I guess it doesn't matter.
-Elise is best princess, plz vote for. "You're on fire!"
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-Three-on-three with mostly random teams seems to lead to a lot of basically unwinnable matchups (my Camilla and two healers vs three sword lords).
-Takumi seems even more degenerate here than usual, but I haven't seen him yet (out of an admittedly tiny sample size). Similarly with Robin since mitigating two big parts of the meta with one character is very valuable in situations like this.
I have been getting things like double Leos or Robins on my side, maybe team Elise is just full of scrubs, and I don't say that jokingly since that's what it's pulling your allies from.
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The thing I have been seeing a lot of though is Hinoka. Turns out a Camilla with a much worse super move but much better color is, uh, good.
I'm ranked surprisingly high in the Elise army right now (possibly indicating that it's very small...) so maybe I can still walk away from this with a lot of feathers even though my team definitely isn't going far.
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The thing I have been seeing a lot of though is Hinoka. Turns out a Camilla with a much worse super move but much better color is, uh, good.
I'm ranked surprisingly high in the Elise army right now (possibly indicating that it's very small...) so maybe I can still walk away from this with a lot of feathers even though my team definitely isn't going far.
if you're in a small team you definitely have the edge in that department, i'd try to stay as high as possible
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I decided to switch back to Camilla for the tournament because I never get to use her in PVP anymore (the farmable featured unit is always the only one I own and is always green) and I had a number of matches where she would have been useful.
So as soon as I switch to her the game gave me two green friends and matched me against three red enemies.
At first I was mad, then I noticed that they were all like level 30, so my level 40 Camilla steamrolled them. Either the tournament doesn't level match characters or it gives level handicaps for horrible color matchups or something.
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I don't really understand this at all. Azura's my current leader because I figured she'd be the most versatile option, but these battles seem random and haphazard. I don't get the scoring either. How do I stockpile more flags for more points? I keep getting 100 as an option and that's it.
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The battles are random and haphazard for sure. Your job is to minimize the randomness as much as possible I guess. Azura seems like a solid choice to me. I'm mostly using FCorrin and she's been amazing so far.
Scoring works like this as far as I know: If you win you can add 100 points, and if you have flags you can spend them to add more. You get flags through quests, and many (but not all) of the quests that reward flags are based on winning in the gauntlet.
There seems to be some strategy surrounding whether or not to save flags for later rounds or spend them all now, since you seem to get feathers each day depending on your rank within your army during that day. You also get a relatively small bonus payout if your team won their matchup that day.
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I don't really understand this at all. Azura's my current leader because I figured she'd be the most versatile option, but these battles seem random and haphazard. I don't get the scoring either. How do I stockpile more flags for more points? I keep getting 100 as an option and that's it.
you just get the flags from the quests and that's it
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(http://i.imgur.com/S48MBAL.jpg)
Lol.
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gave about 30k-ish so far to elise
she has no chance against eirika sigh
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If anyone here picked Al
I'm so sorry
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I Accidentally went into the gauntlet with my lv9 Elise and thought I was screwed but noticed that while all the units on the map were like lv 5ish max, I had one lv40 unit to curbstomp with. I accidentally went in with Elise again and the same thing happened. So I went in again on purpose this time and same thing. This is preeety cheap.
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Huh. I've been noticing a consistent thing where both sides get a level 40 character (on my side it's always the one I brought), a level ~30-35 character, and a level ~25-30 character. I haven't seen anything that low-level ever, so it's definitely some kind of weird handicap thing. Except unlike in the arena there's no penalty for doing it here...
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Huh. I've been noticing a consistent thing where both sides get a level 40 character (on my side it's always the one I brought), a level ~30-35 character, and a level ~25-30 character. I haven't seen anything that low-level ever, so it's definitely some kind of weird handicap thing. Except unlike in the arena there's no penalty for doing it here...
I've seen it too... it's so weird, but at least fair.
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You guys didn't vote for Elise enough! Now she's going to be sad and fake cry briefly!
In case anyone else missed it, because I totally did, there's a new paralogue to go along with this event. And it pays out more stones than usual!
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i'm on team e-boy now, very slight gap in votes from chrom
In case anyone else missed it, because I totally did, there's a new paralogue to go along with this event. And it pays out more stones than usual!
you had me freaked out for a second but then I realized it's only the new xenologue which I already did
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you had me freaked out for a second but then I realized it's only the new xenologue which I already did
It's in the paralogues folder though isn't it? Pendantry!
Using the new stones from that and the arena score apology and the last few days I did another five pulls, STILL mostly 3-stars. It's been 40 pulls since I got my last five-star at this point, and it was Jakob, and Jakob is not good.
I did finally get a 3-star Selena though, who may be my next 5-star project so she can hang out with Camilla. Now I'm just missing Beruka to have the (mostly unplayable) dream team of Camilla/FCorrin/Selena/Beruka. I never ever win arena defenses anymore as it is, so I might as well set my defense team to something fun.
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Are there any units other than Ana who have Astra? I need a skill for Nowi when that hits :V
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Lyn has it. I think Ryoma has it. It's probably around on a few speed-based sword lords.
So do we know more or less how that mechanic works at this point?
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Virion has Astra, I'd just use him.
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"oh hey i have 20 stones let's go see if I can pull Lucina or Elise"
>no colorless orbs
>pick red
"c'mon Lucina"
>Lucina
ye
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Alls I know is, if I can I'll be putting Svallin Shield on FCorrin. She's excellent now when half of the units in the fucking game are super effective against her, so getting rid of that weakness seems relevant...
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You guys didn't vote for Elise enough! Now she's going to be sad and fake cry briefly!
In case anyone else missed it, because I totally did, there's a new paralogue to go along with this event. And it pays out more stones than usual!
BAN ALL OF THE LUCINA FANBOYS!!!!!! Other than that... the Xenolouge for Veronica is very interesting...
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-20 orbs
-let's roll out
-Male Corrin cinematic
it's 3* Male Corrin
Well, I tried.
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-20 orbs
-let's roll out
-Male Corrin cinematic
it's 3* Male Corrin
Well, I tried.
Reminds me of my Male Robin rolls all 3* or 4* but not 5*... shtap...
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Hello everyone I'd like you all to meet my waifu.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6VDM-EUYAAW2W5.jpg:large)
She's super cute and totally my playstyle so I'm running with her forever. Currently 4* Lvl 40 because I don't know how to get feathers.
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Oh, oops, I did mean to say Robin. All these people in Smash that are supposed to represent me are confusing me :V
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BAN ALL OF THE LUCINA FANBOYS!!!!!! Other than that... the Xenolouge for Veronica is very interesting...
Yeah, honestly it was super interesting. What was she uh going to make them do before we interrupted.. ?
-20 orbs
-let's roll out
-Male Corrin cinematic
it's 3* Male Corrin
Well, I tried.
Hey, that's how I got my 5* FCorrin. Upgrade!
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Yeah, honestly it was super interesting. What was she uh going to make them do before we interrupted.. ?
The world may never know... plus she said she kept hearing a voice to tell her to kill... yup something is verrrrry fishy.
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I still don't know who I'll be giving my feathers too once I hit 20k.
Considering my current 5* lineup (Azura lv. 30, Julia lv. 40, Camilla lv. 37, Peri lv. 22, and Lucina lv. 1), who should the lucky 4* be?
MRobin (a strong contender considering he's good against colorless (fucking Takumi))
FCorrin
MCorrin (he's currently lv33 and has served me well, but according to tier lists, Lucina is stricly better as an S+ so idk if he's necessary?)
Chrom (see MCorrin-- apparently he's ranked higher than MCorrin on the tier list? but still lower than Lucina)
Lissa (leaning her just because Lissa is just my favorite FE:A character, but realistically speaking is she really that good?)
Clarine
Tiki (older)
Catria (I heard she's decent)
Jeorge (only decent archer I have so far)
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I had forgotten to do the Lunatic mode of the xenologue and ahaha holy shit. Bad decisions led to me actually 2v1ing Chrom and Leo with Sakura and pulling through somehow.
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Lissa has Rehabilitate, and it is amazing. Basically a full heal for anyone under 50% HP. On the other hand, she doesn't need to be 5* to get it, so having her at 5* probably won't do much good.
You have Lucina so I doubt you'll ever really need to use mcorrin and chrom.
Catria is probably the best blue flyer available, but it's so hard to recommend them with all the takumis running around. Plus you have Azura.
Basically I'm outta ideas :V
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As far as I'm concerned FCorrin and MRobin look like the two best options. FCorrin pairs extremely well with Camilla and MRobin is great against Takumi, so either is a real solid choice I think.
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Jakob is not good.
amen
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"oh hey i have 20 stones let's go see if I can pull Lucina or Elise"
>no colorless orbs
>pick red
"c'mon Lucina"
>Lucina
ye
Fuckerrrrr
(http://i.imgur.com/ANGBIJz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fhRJqD5.jpg)
I went all in with around a hundred orbs on this banner and all I got was a shifty 4* Doga. Okay, I got Tharja too, which was nice, and I pulled Catria today. Still, I feel robbed spending all my free orbs since launch and only getting one 5* pull. :C Maybe I'll invest some money for a change.
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As someone who fell into that trap badly in the past, I advise against spending real money on this game. This isn't like PAD nowadays where most pulls at godfest are gold eggs, it's like PAD in its early days when the drop rates were shit and you'd often get trolled with a rare version of something farmable.
I understand buying out of frustration, but the rates are so bad I'm having a hard time recommending it.
And yeah, MRobin and FCorrin seem like the best options if Lissa doesn't benefit much from 5*. Hmmm.
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There isn't any content you can't do with stuff you already have anyway. hell I don't even know what the content even is in this game yet. so far it's kind of like collecting pokemon cards. game? what game?
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As someone who fell into that trap badly in the past, I advise against spending real money on this game. This isn't like PAD nowadays where most pulls at godfest are gold eggs, it's like PAD in its early days when the drop rates were shit and you'd often get trolled with a rare version of something farmable.
I understand buying out of frustration, but the rates are so bad I'm having a hard time recommending it.
And yeah, MRobin and FCorrin seem like the best options if Lissa doesn't benefit much from 5*. Hmmm.
This is a good analogy that I had all but forgotten due to it being so long in the past nowadays for PAD.
Not that you'd do so, BT, but remember the probably-mentioned-elsewhere-in-thread anecdote of someone spending $1k on this game at launch and still missing a 5* or two.
game? what game?
This was kind of what made me stop playing. Seeing there's a little more to aim at atm(sort of..?) has made me consider trying to get back into it casually but I dunno. Still debating. Did people get it working in Bluestacks? No space on my phone to play it there anymore.
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As someone who fell into that trap badly in the past, I advise against spending real money on this game. This isn't like PAD nowadays where most pulls at godfest are gold eggs, it's like PAD in its early days when the drop rates were shit and you'd often get trolled with a rare version of something farmable.
I understand buying out of frustration, but the rates are so bad I'm having a hard time recommending it.
I put it off, but I'm wholly fine with dropping a few bucks on this game. I really appreciate this game and the way they're running it. If I spend money, it's a one-time thing and because dammit gotta take advantage of that 4.25% before it goes away.
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Fair enough. Good luck!
I feel the same about the game (re: "what game?") but it is a nice way to kill a few minutes so I'm enjoying it for that. I don't really see myself investing any money into it. I didn't even think I'd keep playing until those few events started and I was all "eh okay sure".
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I almost never use stamina for anything at this point (pretty much just if I have something I want to work on, which isn't often because I only pull three-stars) but I've been logging in regularly for the PVP and events. Works for me I guess!
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My biggest thought on the game is that it needs more content and more room for strategy. 4 heroes on the field just isn't enough and it doesn't feel like Fire Emblem to me. And I know the game is new and all that, but I shouldn't be in the endgame after just a month of playing, in my opinion. Like, I've already cleared all of the content in the game bar a couple 9-x Lunatic dungeons simply because I haven't bothered doing them yet. And even then, it all feels very same-y. There isn't enough variance in the gameplay to make different characters feel unique enough for me to care about leveling any up when I already have a higher-tier version of the same type.
I think the game would benefit from having bigger teams (6-8?), bigger fields, and more obstacles to make you actually have to think rather than "rush in and kill" or "fuck it's Takumi again, kite him until you can punish him".
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Well, skill inheritance might shake up the sameyness quite a bit. It might end up being degenerately broken and I'm sure there will still be cookie cutter strategies with it, but it should make things interesting.
For me much of the excitement comes from the tension of trying to chain together arena wins without losing a single unit. That does make it pretty challenging, although it kind of sucks when a map or really crappy enemy team ruins the run without any chance to outplay it. The only risk/reward tradeoffs really have to do with hoping that AI makes certain decisions since the game has no RNG, and I'm guessing if you take the time to figure out the AI's decisionmaking process then that goes away too.
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See that's the thing. If you're smarter than the AI, you're really not likely to lose if you know what you're doing. The chokiest parts are just bad matchups where you have units that do literally 0 damage to opponent units. I wanna play against actual humans who can (easily) outsmart me. :(
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The problem with that is that Fire Emblem isn't really built for PVP. Characters have an effective swing (range of attack, not sure if that's a universal term outside of tabletop gaming) of 3-4 squares (or higher in the normal games, but still fairly homogeneous) and *someone* has to go first. And the person who steps into the enemy range first is at a huge disadvantage. There are abilities that mitigate this (Dance, Smite) but they leave your character exposed.
I think most games would probably be an exercise in infinite passed turns on both sides because whoever goes first most likely loses. The game only really works when there's a computer to move forward recklessly, or at least take obvious bait the player lays out. I feel like the only way to make it work with two human players would be to hide information. Either have fog of war or don't allow players to see exactly which units their opponent has until they get close or something, which is going to lead to a lot of bad-feeling situations.
And I know Awakening had PVP, but it wasn't really fun. It was ridiculously grindy to get your units playable for it which didn't help, and that isn't really a problem here, but there were still either a lot of standoffs or players using mobility abilities that don't exist in Heroes (and probably shouldn't exist in Heroes) to get a first hit without taking a huge risk.
Maybe an asymmetrical game would be best? One team has three characters but is walled up in a defensible position, and the other team has four but has to beat the defensive team within ten turns or they lose? Something like that might work.
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Yeah, I exploit the hell out of the computer's willingness to go first most of the time because it lets me decide where to put my own units.
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That's usually how you succeed at traditional Fire Emblem too. It's just how the game is played. Things are more complicated, but the principle is the same.
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The original games too have the same problem of not having any fodder units to be creative or risky with.
I think introducing something like CO powers / super powers from advance wars would be a neat solution to the stalemate problem. Unlike regular skills, any of your units can charge your CO power gauge. You also get bonus charge if one of your units die (but not for killing, so that the receiving side can maintain some momentum). It could even make players choose between killing units or spreading damage depending on the situation.
We could also go days of ruin -esque and give bonus charge if the leader unit kills an enemy unit. Also days of ruin -esque, we could limit the activating CO power / super power action to the leader unit so that you won't have access to the super power anymore if they die. This can give more depth and strategic priority targets, and also somewhat solves the issue of not having any fodder units to be willing to initiate with.
Possible leader skills / super powers I'm thinking of are like +1 movement to all units, +6 to all ally mounted unit stats (or flyers, etc.), lead unit gets extra action, all enemy units lose 20% hp and allies recover 20% hp, etc.
:e and if there's still stalemates, make it so it charges by one every 3 turns or something
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Leader skills would be genuinely interesting but super prone to power creep, so they'd have to be careful.
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anyone manage to clear lunatic ursula?
pulled a 4* effie from her banner so im trying to make a 3*frobin lucina takumi effie team
heard cecilia does a great job neutralizing the ninjas but mine is only at 3* lvl 20 sadly
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I beat the Hard version but the Lunatic version is stupid as hell. It may as well simply be impossible unless you have the ideal setup thanks to those dumb ninjas.
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Yeah, all of these things have been facetanking challenge checks so far (and will probably continue to be that way, since there aren't THAT many ways you can make a tricky level in this game) and this is a rough one. We got three days though, so I'm just gonna level up my 4* Cecilia and hope that does it. The prize is not only actually decent this time, but also drops at 4*, so I want her for PVP in the next rotation. I can finally use Camilla again since the bonus character will finally be not green.
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anyone manage to clear lunatic ursula?
pulled a 4* effie from her banner so im trying to make a 3*frobin lucina takumi effie team
heard cecilia does a great job neutralizing the ninjas but mine is only at 3* lvl 20 sadly
Oh god so it's not just me pulling my hair out... from that map like I have half of the new banner (from other banners), but yet Nino, Felicia, and Setsuna are low leveled... and my Cecilia is leveled 23, so it's off to the training grounds for me.
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Hahaha, what. You can progress the KO with ____ quests if you happen to get those units in the voting gauntlet. That's priceless.
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Hahaha, what. You can progress the KO with ____ quests if you happen to get those units in the voting gauntlet. That's priceless.
TBH it is funny, but so cheap.
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Considering how stupid it is to have quests like that anyway it's a good thing to have ways around it, no?
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Setsuna setsuna setsuna setsuna setsuna setsuna why ever did I spend stones on the other 2 banners, this is my takumi bait n counter why
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO2Sn_f2378
This absolute madman beat lunatic Ursula with just 3* units.
Key is FRobin ORKO'ing Ursula and a non-infantry unit who can tank a lot, and then add a dancer and healer for maximum turtling and running from ninjas.
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Ugh, I tried to pick Lucina to get the bonus feathers since she's obviously going to win, but my hand wouldn't select her. She's just too lame. Well, triple losses for me then.
I guess if I assume any random person on Team Lucina probably ranked in the lowest bracket because the army is so big (which probably isn't actually true, but nobody correct me) then I got about the same number of feathers overall by reaching higher ranks in the smaller armies.
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Ugh, I tried to pick Lucina to get the bonus feathers since she's obviously going to win, but my hand wouldn't select her. She's just too lame. Well, triple losses for me then.
I guess if I assume any random person on Team Lucina probably ranked in the lowest bracket because the army is so big (which probably isn't actually true, but nobody correct me) then I got about the same number of feathers overall by reaching higher ranks in the smaller armies.
Yeah as I predicted the moment Lucina was announced to be in the competition I knew the Lucina fanboys or as I call them "FUUCBOIS" would pick her like seriously there are better LORDS THAN TERMINATOR WAIFU 2.0.
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Well, the BEST ones (cough Camilla, and to a much lesser extent Hector) weren't even options. Although maybe that's for the best, since I don't think I would be able to handle Lucina beating Camilla...
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lucina is only winning because ike isn't out
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I don't think there's many characters that can challenge how popular Lucina is. And it also doesn't help that she's ridiculously strong in the game, too. She's already replaced MCorrin in my main team.
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If FCorrin was in this tournament...
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So after spending a bunch of time leveling Cecilia to try to beat the Ursula on Lunatic and spending five stamina potions on different strategies, I'm convinced it's not doable with any combination units I own. 4*, max level Cecilia still gets completely trounced by the ninjas and Ursula one-shots her on top of that, almost every enemy can teleport if you don't one-shot them to sneak in and randomly one-shot a unit they're strong against, there's no time or space to maneuver, the enemies cover each other's weaknesses perfectly. Really don't feel like there's a single thing I can do that even gets me close to having a chance. The best I've managed is taking out two enemies before losing, which is basically nothing.
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Welp, how to say this...
My phone got stolen :qq: (It's SO beatiful to see how people don't do anything when they see a robbery...)
And I didn't link my account to My Nintendo so there's no way to actually get it back...
I've rerolled in a Nox emulator, and today my family bought me a phone...
Now I made sure to actually link my account to Nintendo...
Anyways... here's my new ID 6263861411
Got some 5* at almost 40 so I'm working hard right now to max them... It's not Takumi but it's something...
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Well, I copied the 3* cheesing strat and it worked! The main takeaway from the video was learning how to manipulate the AI so I could safely use my FRobin to kill the Wings of Mercy knight while technically being in range of the ninja which would instead attack my appropriately placed Effie. Props to my Olivia and Lissa who I brought up from 1* and the Effie I pulled from the banner yesterday. Could have probably also used my Gunter, Cherche, or maybe Robin as they also had high Def (higher than my Effie's, which was -Def) but Effie's attack made clearing things out pretty simple.
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I have some bitter things to say about a strategy game that requires this extent of stupid ai cheesing.
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Sheesh. Finally managed to beat Ursula Lunatic.
Turns out that the answer to all life's problems is dancers.
Edit: On a slightly more sobering note, with the launch event ending tomorrow we're about to see very quickly what sort of game FE:H will become.
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If there's no solid way to keep obtaining orbs after clearing all in-game content and no constant daily feed, I'll be dropping the game pretty fast. The game is already starved for content or anything that can be considered more fun than a slow grind. Even now, I'll open the app thinking I want to play, and close it when I realize there's... really nothing to do.
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Wow, holy shit, yeah. Having a dancer makes a HUGE difference, even a brutally underdeveloped 3* one. I haven't cracked the code yet on how to actually beat it, but I totally feel like I have a fighting chance all the sudden. Huh.
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A Blazing Sword-themed banner is coming in hot. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6yWoJRUwAEyj1Y.jpg:large)
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Woooow, the new daily log in bonuses are... excessively stingy. And having to play arena every day for bonuses is a drag. I'm not impressed.
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I like playing Arena, so it doesn't bother me. And aren't thete supposed to be additional arena quests on top of this? Or are those the rewards for the arena quests?
Also for what it's worth keep in mind that we all have a ton of stones incoming as a reward for the voting gauntlet.
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Wow, holy shit, yeah. Having a dancer makes a HUGE difference, even a brutally underdeveloped 3* one. I haven't cracked the code yet on how to actually beat it, but I totally feel like I have a fighting chance all the sudden. Huh.
I might use Azura for this if this keeps up...
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(http://i.imgur.com/CivLuhp.jpg)
YAAY!
(http://i.imgur.com/srGnjDe.jpg)
Cleared with the above team.
So the first many times I ran this it was oppressive and horrible, but once I threw Olivia on there it became a blast. I spent TONS of stamina potions and it took me a bunch of tries, but I genuinely had fun figuring out the puzzle after a while.
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This was my first time using a dancer today and holy shit it's like playing on easy mode.
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There's a reason why Azura is S+ tier. She's super, super useful on a level that only she and Olivia can approach.
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A Blazing Sword-themed banner is coming in hot. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6yWoJRUwAEyj1Y.jpg:large)
Lucius is a staff user, rip.
New daily arena quests will hopefully be a source of orbs...if it becomes the one-orb-a-week trickle then that's really disappointing.
As for long-term content, they should just implement an infinitely scaling, infinitely tall Tower of Valni with a leaderboard and rewards for clearing certain levels or something.
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I've said over and over that I think Azura is hands-down the best character in Fates, and tge people who have her in like B-tier are fools. And she's *even better* in Heroes. She's definitely my number one want.
That said, I think I owe Olivia an upgrade from 3* to 5*.
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There's a reason why Azura is S+ tier. She's super, super useful on a level that only she and Olivia can approach.
And Azura actually has respectable offensive stats, unlike poor Olivia. With any luck I can get Ninian or Azura on the next banner.
Lucius is a staff user, rip.
New daily arena quests will hopefully be a source of orbs...if it becomes the one-orb-a-week trickle then that's really disappointing.
Hopefully Lucius and Priscilla have something to set them apart from the existing healers. Although I get a fair amount of use out of Lissa (because she's great), characters like Linde tend to hold the fort as a sub-healer just fine. Guess we'll find out how good they are tomorrow.
As a spot of good news, you'll still be able to get daily orbs from the daily quests, so the rate of orb collection won't go down.
That said, I think I owe Olivia an upgrade from 3* to 5*.
I took Olivia to 4*, but I can't bring myself to 5* her. The only real advantage you get is Silver Sword+, and ideally you're never going to have her in combat anyway. 4* is worth it due to Hone Atk 3, though.
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>rebecca finally
Well time to play this shit game before it dies again.
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Yeah, 5* might not be worth it, but she'll likely be taking up the red slot on my team so I kind of feel like the added overall stats may come in handy. We'll see. Definitely at least 4*. Although FCorrin already has Hone Attack 3 on my team...
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Although FCorrin already has Hone Attack 3 on my team...
Ah, but who is honing fcorrin's attack? :V
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FCorrin basically hones her own attack, what with her Seal Resist and all. She's kind of a monster. Can't wait to give her Svallin Shield, if the game will let me.
More attack certainly might be nice though. She synergizes well with a dancer in general. Lets her exploit the debuffs she spreads harder, or spread them farther.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Bd4oSco.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/uu2fATA.jpg)
This is what happened: (try to follow along, I promise it's worth it) (visual aid, unrelated screencap) (http://i.imgur.com/pNT5zaD.png)
I wanted to emulate the FRobin method. It didn't work, because Effie's too strong so she hits the red cav into range where the armor knight can warp next to it, and then I can't kill it while it KO's Effie. I tried many things. Among them, I found out I have no healer with the balm that raises defense, and other really specific things. What ended up working:
1) Switching the Steel Lance for an Iron Lance, so Effie's first retaliation leaves the cav with +50% health
2) Hitting the armor knight with FRobin as usual (+ dance to get her out of harm's way)
2) Attacking the cav with Effie after the first retaliation, leaving it with 3HP for enemy phase
3) On enemy phase, the ninjas attack first, then the cav commits sudoko on Effie (thank god the ninjas attack first!!!)
4) Advance Effie to the right, hitting one of the ninjas (the ninja is standing where the 90 degree turn is, and the armor knight is above it)
5) Hit the armor knight with FRobin again (down to 3HP as well)
6) The crux. Only one of the ninjas can hit Effie. I think this is what ended up happening: the lower ninja broke the wall under the ninja in the turn, who moved where the wall was, hit Effie, and then allowed the armor knight to warp to below Effie (to the left of the injured ninja, above the lower ninja, for perspective). The dude hits Effie and leaves her with 1HP. :colbert:
7) I had to improvise on this turn but holy shit holy shit. LISSA MOVES IN. Kills the armor knight by standing to the left of Effie, then the magic: Olivia dances above Lissa, and she's out of reach. Lissa Rehabilitates Effie to full, then Effie SMITES Lissa out of harm's way. Holy shit holy shit holy shit
8) The ninjas are stuck facing Effie and there's nothing they can do
10 stamina potions and most of my gems are gone. I also had to promote Olivia to 4* because I forgot to teach her Hone Attack, and you need that to one-round Ursula..
Worth it.
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There are a few really interesting things about these hero challenge things.
-They're surprisingly fun once you get in the groove for being oppressive tanking checks. If it looks like you have a glimmer of hope of beating the ridiculous odds then suddenly spamming stamina potions to rapid-fire new strategies is a blast.
-Ursula is actually really good. I love her character design and she's a totally viable unit, unlike Narcian or probably FRobin. Probably not the best blue tome user, but very usable, even without a 5* upgrade.
-The last two have both forced me to use units I never use otherwise. This one was Sheena, and the last one was Jakob. This is both good and bad. On one hand it kind of requires you to have a large variety of characters to pick from to have a fighting chance. On the other hand, it's great that you can't steamroll everything with your PVP team. And it is nice that the game leaves these up long enough that you can powerlevel a couple of things to try out different strategies.
-I can't really fathom how they could make these progressively harder and yet still be fair. I guess something of this difficulty but just remixed would be pretty reasonable, if it wants you to use different units and slightly different tactics. Or introducing scenarios like defending a throne or enemy reinforcements could help too I guess. But man, they really pull out ALL the stops on giving the enemy handicaps. Outnumbering you, giving them bullshit abilities, ridiculous stats, AND having their supers fully charged out of the box.
-I kind of wish the game would just let you use continues on these, but gave some kind of incentive not to. They're basically completely worthless as-is except for the one-time clears of the last couple of lunatic chapters if you need them. It'd be nice if you could power through these stages with continues if you're not feeling up to puzzling out a solution, but you got some kind of reward (maybe a small cosmetic improvement for the prize unit like a little banner on their stats screen or something, or a few stones). Then again I probably wouldn't have taken the time to solve this legit if I didn't have to, and I did ultimately really enjoy it.
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I wonder if promotions will ever be a thing. That'd be a nice extra dimension of the game.
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There are a few really interesting things about these hero challenge things.
imagine if these were full big boy fire emblem maps...
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I wonder if promotions will ever be a thing. That'd be a nice extra dimension of the game.
How do you envision that working? I'm kind of unclear on how that could be implemented since almost all units are already in their second-tier classes.
Not Donnel though... :D
imagine if these were full big boy fire emblem maps...
I'm torn on that, yeah. On one hand I like the chibimaps because they give Heroes its own identity (not to mention smoothing out the UI), but on the other hand they're really limiting.
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I'm torn on that, yeah. On one hand I like the chibimaps because they give Heroes its own identity (not to mention smoothing out the UI), but on the other hand they're really limiting.
just imagine 10 ninjas with poison daggers instead of 2, and 4 armor knights on each corner of the map with wings of mercy that will just insta oneshot you if you leave ANYBODY with low HP and don't finish them off
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(http://i.imgur.com/6h8FjHu.jpg)
New meta inc
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just imagine 10 ninjas with poison daggers instead of 2, and 4 armor knights on each corner of the map with wings of mercy that will just insta oneshot you if you leave ANYBODY with low HP and don't finish them off
I bear Conquest 25 on Lunatic, I don't have to imagine sadistic Fire Emblem maps. :D You imagine enemies in Heroes with Inevitable End.
(But at least on big maps you have SOME room to move...)
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(http://i.imgur.com/VZSNxtQ.jpg)
sure do love those rock bottom rates
i'm real glad i haven't invested money in this fucking game lol
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So, 200 feathers and 1 orb a day from arena quests it looks like. Oh, and new offense score tier for arena, which is ~1000 extra feathers weekly. So feather income is basically doubled, cool.
Tempted to roll for Ninian but seeing Matsuri's roll is an effective deterrent. :V
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>azura, lucius, 4* camilla from rolls but almost no colorless orbs
I don't want these, actually.
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>Ephraim and Lilina in a 5-roll
I don't think the rate-up is working.
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-Five rolls=mostly 3* dupes, but with a 4* Ogma I didn't have this time.
No, that's cool. Well over a hundred stones since my last 5* is totally fine. It's not like I wanted new toys to play with or anything... Why would I? Why would that be a good thing to have in a video game..? At least the increased feather rate means I can make my own fun I guess...
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The 'increased' feather rate is still close to fucking nothing. They're artificially extending the game by making unit rank-ups a massive grind without producing any actual worthwhile content.
Honestly I kind of just want to drop this game because the way they're running it is reminiscent of early PAD and that's a very bad thing
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I bear Conquest 25 on Lunatic, I don't have to imagine sadistic Fire Emblem maps. :D You imagine enemies in Heroes with Inevitable End.
(But at least on big maps you have SOME room to move...)
enemies with unlimited move range are a whole different story
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The teleportation abilities in Heroes give large movement ranges, but they're far from unlimited given that they're very conditional. I'll take that any day over enemies who can pick your characters up and move them into killboxes.
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My friend rolled two Ninians I hate him with a burning passion, while I didn't get nothing good, EXCEPT FOR JAKOB YES. <3
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decided to spend my 20k feathers on a 4 star camilla since I just figured out why I couldn't kill takumis with her: she's -atk+hp orz. I don't actually know what ivs this one has since she doesn't match any the base stats of two sites I've looked at.
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Yeah, my Camilla is -ATK +RES unfortunately. Not ideal, but it's handy for taking on some glass cannon mages that are otherwise a problem for my team.
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JAKOB
good
eww
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eww
BRUH... BRUH... DON'T HATE ON MY TASTES. Honestly he is good unless you had bad stat growth...
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BRUH... BRUH... DON'T HATE ON MY TASTES. Honestly he is good unless you had bad stat growth...
he is bad until you reclass him and ignore his rather brutish demeanor
I think he might be the first unit i've ever seen that sucks until you reclass them
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Sold a ton of duplicates earlier and now have over 20k feathers again. Unsure what to focus on, although Selena for the Camilla theme team seems like a good goof if not terribly effective.
Using any spare stones I pick up to do random blue picks out of the REM hoping for Ninian. Did three just now, got some more 3*s (although I did get Odin who's at least new to me).
Edit: ff, weren't you playing the Goad Fliers team? Does it work? That might be another way to build around Camilla if it's viable.
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Yeah, my Camilla is -ATK +RES unfortunately. Not ideal, but it's handy for taking on some glass cannon mages that are otherwise a problem for my team.
I thought you said you could orko takumis, or was that before everyone was lv40s yet?
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I thought you said you could orko takumis, or was that before everyone was lv40s yet?
She can still take some Takumis, depends on their stats. I tend to just kill them with FCorrin or my Takumi though since it's safer. Camilla's usually on mage-killer duty to keep them safe lately.
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Re: fliers
Since none of my fliers are gold it's not really ~strong~ but. Subaki is hella good individually for fighting ~sword meta~ and always doubles if attacked at high HP. If you can find a way to bait Lucinas, etc etc into fighting Subaki you're pretty much set
That said, fighting Takumi is a different story... I'd like to make a flier setup, though.
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ugh I probably should have checked beforehand then. Only a +atk camilla would be of any improvement over my current one since neutral camilla (with hone fliers) can't kill neutral takumi. At least with my +atk hinoka, she can kill neutral takumi and +hp or +def takumi with savage blow damage. With a +atk nature, camilla with hone fliers can finally orko any takumi (except a +def nature one) alone.
And I get the feeling the one I just evolved isn't +atk
orz
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Well, you can always combine them and make one superCamilla and one very jealous me.
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yeah about that. weren't there like gacha laws preventing this sort of thing? I thought premium content weren't allowed to be expendable. And do we even know how the game determines which stats to boost?
Since I doubt the extra one boost in any two stats would make a difference, I might just keep her around for when inherits arrive.
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he is bad until you reclass him and ignore his rather brutish demeanor
I think he might be the first unit i've ever seen that sucks until you reclass them
EH??? Mines still a butler and does good tanking and dealing damage seriously. o.o
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Hey Mea, have you considered a Goad Flyers team to make user of your two Camillas? Camilla/Camilla/Palla/Hinoka seems pretty great. Although arguably a better team might be Camilla/Palla/Hinoka/Olivia, and PVP teams generally need to make room for a featured unit anyway... Still, it's an idea.
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EH??? Mines still a butler and does good tanking and dealing damage seriously. o.o
He does way better as any other physical class, maid/butler is just not a good physical class, also he will heal for crap. This also does nothing to cure his awful extremist dickrider personality. This is one of the reasons I feel like girls get cheated in Fates, since if you're playing casually and don't think to do this, Jakob is stuck running at about half potential for the whole game.
Felicia does the whole maid/butler thing better and needs no reclass, only a Flame Shuriken, which they let you obtain at about the same place in each route. Also she's not an asshole.
Curiously, I thought Jakob had a Def focus, but it turns out that's not so, so he's actually more fragile overall than Felicia due to his lower evasive stats, and only having okay defense stats in both. Felicia at least only has to dodge the physical stuff since it seems to take magic as strong as an atom bomb to even harm her.
tl;dr jakob is a nasty boy why does IS give him to you as a possible starting partner
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His son's a cutie though, so that's nice.
Fates offspring in Heroes plz! I want Forrest and Midori on my team ASAP!
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His son's a cutie though, so that's nice.
I know almost nothing about Dwyer except he looks like he should be Shura's son, and then I just found out Jakob is a dick to his son too!!!
nasty boy AND nasty dad!!!
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Hm, haven't considered goad fliers since I figured Hinoka is already strong enough to take down a lot of things and because it would otherwise be redundant sort of. Might look into it, but I don't remember having been tanked with her yet so we'll see. I figure if I had to choose between goad fliers and fortify fliers, I'd take the latter, not to mention Caeda is anti-armor, rounding off the team fairly well. If I could get an fcorrin, I'd stick her in the team and call it perfect.
My second camilla is +spd-hp which I think is actually the most useless iv set for her ever. Why
orz
e: oh and I know camilla camilla camilla camilla is like your wet dream team, but I'm not as set on putting more than one on a team atm lol
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I thought +spd Camilla was good, since she can use it to quadruple a large percentage of the existing heroes?
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e: oh and I know camilla camilla camilla camilla is like your wet dream team, but I'm not as set on putting more than one on a team atm lol
Yeah I know, I was more just addressing the fact that you're suddenly finding yourself owning two of her that you need a home for. :V She's probably not worth stacking otherwise over diversifying your flyboys.
I thought +spd Camilla was good, since she can use it to quadruple a large percentage of the existing heroes?
She probably is, it honestly most likely depends on what other stats you're tweaking with the rest of your team. If you have Spur Speed or Threaten Speed or something on board then it most likely doesn't matter, but if not then it's probably pretty solid. Although it doesn't help her kill Tamuki since she hits twice and then dies before hits three and four.
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Oh right, darting blow forgot about that.
actually that's pretty significant, looking over them all. The only characters a +spd nature camilla with +12 spd buff (+6 from hone fliers, +6 from darting blow) doesn't outspeed that's relevant are spd nature: felicia, lyn, setsuna, azura, lucina, nino, eirika and ryoma. Of which four are reds and you wouldn't want camilla anywhere near anyway and the other five she should be able to kill even without doubling them. I might switch over to this one then, though the -hp might really hurt. But then if she's no longer doubled, she might end up having more survivability anyway.
e: and actually, neutral def camilla with +6 def from fortify fliers can tank a hit from neutral atk takumi and survive with 2 hp, but a -hp nature camilla dies by ONE hp. And guess what my minus stat is. That being the case, the ideal iv set for camilla would probably be +atk-res on a non-fliers team, or +spd-res if you have hinoka so that you can orko neutral atk takumi if you absolutely had to.
e2: saizo would be a pretty good anti-takumi option for this team. Neutral spd saizo can outspeed neutral spd takumi with the +4 spd I can buff him with caeda's rally speed. And he has 33 def which is pretty ridiculous for a ranged unit, perfect for baiting our takumis. His whole tool kit looks amazing actually.
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>priscilla now
:fail:
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I got this mounted 5* cleric girl, Priscilla, actually. She's got Rehabilitate, except she moves far, so I guess she's cool?
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e2: saizo would be a pretty good anti-takumi option for this team. Neutral spd saizo can outspeed neutral spd takumi with the +4 spd I can buff him with caeda's rally speed. And he has 33 def which is pretty ridiculous for a ranged unit, perfect for baiting our takumis. His whole tool kit looks amazing actually.
I don't own a Saizo, but doesn't he have a ranged version of FCorrin's debuff weapon or something? Yeah, that might be legit amazing.
Edit: Wow, so there's a ton of new stuff coming up.
-New rules like defense maps amd enemy reinforcements, just like we were speculating about literally yesterday
-Xander will indeed be farmable
-Equipable item slot
-More ways to get feathers (winning hero battles)
-New matchmaking for PVP that takes more factors into account like number of inherited skills, merge allies, and more accurate base stat totals
-Vague allusions to a new event
Neat.
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I might not have a Saizo, but I have a Kagero, and man does she rock that Poison Dagger in Arena.
Half of all the good units might as well be green check marks to her.
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Well, I just used the five stones from the mail to do another pull fishing for Ninian and I didn't pull her, but I did get SOMETHING good. Got an MRobin.
He's 3* of course, but I'll take it. Definitely worth upgrading I think. I'll probably just cut Takumi from my team entirely (not because he's not good, just because I don't like him) and go something like Camilla/FCorrin/MRobin/Lyn or healer.
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I might not have a Saizo, but I have a Kagero, and man does she rock that Poison Dagger in Arena.
Half of all the good units might as well be green check marks to her.
You mean like this? (https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/5za0fz/the_tier_list_as_seen_by_kagero/)
I would prefer fcorrin's offensive debuffs, but saizo actually has the defensive debuffs version. Its slightly 'compensated' for the fact that his weapon debuffs by -6 def/res compared to fcorrin's -5 atk/spd. That's still pretty ridiculous because it's ranged (AND he has poison for the target unit who would otherwise feel left out lol). Might rather fit the sweeper nature of flier teams though.
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You mean like this? (https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/5za0fz/the_tier_list_as_seen_by_kagero/)
I would prefer fcorrin's offensive debuffs, but saizo actually has the defensive debuffs version. Its slightly 'compensated' for the fact that his weapon debuffs by -6 def/res compared to fcorrin's -5 atk/spd. That's still pretty ridiculous because it's ranged (AND he has poison for the target unit who would otherwise feel left out lol). Might rather fit the sweeper nature of flier teams though.
Mmm, yeah, defense debuff is worse (especially given that FCorrin can also deal out large Res debuffs). But it might secure a lot more ORKOs, so that's cool. Yeah, I think that's certainly worth testing.
I hadn't noticed until just now that the offense score ceiling for the arena has been raised, so that's another source of some additional feathers. Nice.
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Priscilla, actually. She's got Rehabilitate, except she moves far
This makes her the best healer by default!
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Was attempting to get Ninian yesterday and ended up with a 5* Lucina instead. She's already better than my Eirika, so into the team she goes.
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Well hello there!
(http://i.imgur.com/VJDWV49.png)
I wanted Jaffar tho
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This makes her the best healer by default!
the best healer is felicia, though.
Depending on how skill inherit works I'd say she'd lose to lucius 'I would die to you' raven's last name though.
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the best healer is felicia, though.
She basically doesn't heal in this game tho :(
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lucius 'I would die to you' raven's last name
relevant (http://thispleasestormod.tumblr.com/post/157030553658/camelpimp-i-dont-think-lucius-is-getting-it)
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I was working on azama when I learned that rods only do half damage. That doesn't make any sense at all, why the heck would they do that!? If they wanted to let rod users have high base stats and not do a lot of damage without over-inflating their other stats, why couldn't they just cut every rod's mt by half? It adds unnecessary complication to damage calculating. I should just be able to look at my attack value and the enemy's res value and do simple subtraction.
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I was working on azama when I learned that rods only do half damage.
wow lol
The only game you've been able to attack with rods is RD, and they made the rods have no mt, 100% critical, based on str, and only as a counterattack. You basically aren't going to ever see damage with them.
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I was working on azama when I learned that rods only do half damage. That doesn't make any sense at all, why the heck would they do that!? If they wanted to let rod users have high base stats and not do a lot of damage without over-inflating their other stats, why couldn't they just cut every rod's mt by half? It adds unnecessary complication to damage calculating. I should just be able to look at my attack value and the enemy's res value and do simple subtraction.
Cutting might by half wouldn't result in half damage though, it would just be a few points lower. I guess halving damage makes sense just because PVP uses base stat total for matchmaking and scoring, so healers would be much sketchier in PVP if they dragged your total stats way down.
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Cutting might by half wouldn't result in half damage though, it would just be a few points lower. I guess halving damage makes sense just because PVP uses base stat total for matchmaking and scoring, so healers would be much sketchier in PVP if they dragged your total stats way down.
I realized the halving mt not being equivalent a little after I wrote it. And reducing mt for all rods would also scale down the mt difference between rods with and without effects (but why would you ever use the one without effects).
I think the base stat total excludes all weapon bonuses, looking at that recent developer's note about how they plan to match players, among other things, by total team stats not including weapon stats. Otherwise you'd discourage using rods in arena even more because a lot of them have better weapons that have less mt but with useful effects (pain, gravity, panic, etc). Or even using brave weapons would be slightly detrimental to the score since they lower your spd stat.
Would it really break the game to let rod users do damage? Is that what they were anticipating? I suppose being capable of killing and healing would be pretty strong.
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I suppose being capable of killing and healing would be pretty strong.
very good reason op maid got the nerf stick in this game
(http://i.imgur.com/cQLV3q4.png)
*That's magic damage, as well. Takumi and Effie would get roasted with no chance.
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I use rods without effects pretty often, and I see other people do it sometimes too. The ability to secure kills for allies that get close but don't quite make it is more valuable than many staff debuffs. It's usually the difference between ~0 damage and ~5, which can definitely matter.
I'm pretty sure weapon effects aren't taken into consideration for arena score. Or if they are then they won't be soon.
I feel like the concerns about having staves do good damage is that healers could then fill the magic damage slot on a team while also having much higher utility than a mage or dragon. Teams generally need at least a magic character to deal with very physically bulky enemies, and even healers can sometimes take decent chunks out of enemies with big defense but low resist. If they did more damage then they could probably mitigate those enemies alone, assuming the whole opposing team isn't loaded with them. DPS clerics with Martyr as a way of sustaining themselves might be pretty scary, although that would get Martyr a bit more of a niche than it has right now which might be nice.
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oh my fucking god nerf takumi already
i swear to god he makes this game not even remotely fun
there's barely any fun to begin with but come on
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Well, with the new skill inheritance update that just came out, people have already started putting vantage on their Takumis, so yeah.
A lot of new quests too. Training tower quests have 36 orbs total but some of them look pretty hard.
Edit: even better, Takumi can be sacc'd to give close counter to any ranged unit.
Edit 2: Get ready for close and distant counter on everyone, vantage on everyone, brash assault for 4x brave weapon attacks in a row, desperation on linde and other fast squishies, wary fighter on every armor, and blarblade equivalents on every mage.
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I just gave jaffar poison strike so +17 damage unless they're below 17 or something
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Sheesh. I already put Brash Assault on Lyn because ~glass cannon~ but should I have saved that for a Brave user?
If Lyn wasn't already starved for SP I could just give her a Brave Weapon, too :V
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New inherit system seems pretty silly already looks like. Thankfully, there aren't any skills that prevent takumi from being orko'd so that side of dealing with him doesn't change for me.
I'm imagining some sick Nino build with ardent sacrifice, close counter, and vantage. First get an ally damaged then have Nino use ardent sacrifice to drop below 75% health. Then stack bonuses on her and stick her in enemy range as she mows down. Or maybe -hp ryoma so the a-passive slot is free. Wouldn't be too useful as your defense team though.
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Sheesh. I already put Brash Assault on Lyn because ~glass cannon~ but should I have saved that for a Brave user?
Well, with that combo Lyn basically has a built in brave at under half (?) health.
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Oh, I see, Sol Katti only gives an automatic attack if you would already follow up. Brash Assault just guarantees that a follow up will happen, then.
Cool. I just need to get the SP, one kill at a time...
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Neutral atk death blow camilla can kill ANY nature takumi with hone fliers buff. Not sure if being able to orko takumi would be worth losing losing out on darting blow and being able to double pretty much everyone though, so it would be a waste of my +spd camilla. Might have to hold on to the thought until I get another one that isn't -atk. I'm glad that the merging page lets you preview which stats would be buffed. In my case, +hp+spd so not really worth it. I could maybe build my +spd camilla to being a healer glass cannon by giving her something like desperation and ardent sacrifice. Ardent sacrifice can keep my hinoka alive long enough for her to see some use in that special of hers, and using it even once will drop camilla below 75% hp to activate desperation. Have no idea what to do with the +hp-atk one yet.
e: Wow I actually had all the units I needed to do this. Florina is expendable and I had an extra shanna so pop you go, down camilla's stomach. Now I need to grind for 750 sp.
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Does anyone know how Bowbreaker interacts with brave weapons? Would Bowbreaker Camilla be able to make 4x attacks against Takumi up front? Unfortunately I don't believe I own a single unit with Death Blow.
Also really want to put Svallin Shield on FCorrin but the only character I own who has it is a 5* Sheena... Don't really want to lose her since I own very few armor units overall and I might need her for something (like the last hero challenge) but it would be VERY useful. Actually probably would have let FCorrin do everything she did in that challenge and more.
Edit: Now that I think about it, Bowbreaker doesn't do much does it? It just gives a followup if you don't have one already, which Camilla does, and prevents doubling, which doesn't matter when she gets one-shot anyway. Might be useful on someone else though.
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Svalin shield can only go on armored units
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Unfortunately I don't believe I own a single unit with Death Blow.
Ursula has it
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*sees Felicia can't learn Rehabilitate*
literally wut
*sees that inherited units go poof*
and so I can't dump Astra on Nowi...
Well, I can settle for Glacies.
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Svalin shield can only go on armored units
FUCK well that solves that problem then. Probably for the better.
Ursula has it
You know it didn't even occur to me that farmable units could be used for this because I'm used to PAD. Interesting.
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okay who wants to die first
(http://i.imgur.com/N8AVCut.png) (http://i.imgur.com/zoMTYeG.png)
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It looks like Ursula only gets Death Blow 3 at 5*, though. So you have to dump 20k feathers at a minimum and then you can't even get her other skills, since if you want 3 you also have to get 1 and 2.
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(http://i.imgur.com/l4VKoRH.jpg)
"Who's been bullying my dear sweet Corrin?"
Does anyone know if there's a 4* with Wings Of Mercy 3?
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Does anyone know if there's a 4* with Wings Of Mercy 3?
doubt it given how broken the skill is
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Cain has wings of Mercy 3 the sword horse man. Was thinking if slapping that on azura would be any good.
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He has it at 4*?
Also, Cain is in this game?!
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Yeah, he has it at 4*.
I think no one uses him because Horse Stats and everyone seems to have better red sword lords anyway.
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okay who wants to die first
Holy carp lol. Thankfully I'm fliers. I'd be traumatized otherwise seeing this everywhere
Looking ahead at the specials maps, the only stand-out farmable for inheriting would probably be Hana with life and death next friday.
I'm using this (https://feheroes.wiki/Passives) useful site for seeing who has which passives/assists/weapons. It's even separated into the passive categories (a/b/c) so it's easy to navigate through.
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Holy carp lol. Thankfully I'm fliers. I'd be traumatized otherwise seeing this everywhere
Fliers/Armor/Cavalry actually can't be debuffed by the poison dagger, but poison strike still works, and Glacies kills everybody.
I also have Moonbow on Marth because fuck everyone
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I'm thinking of making a Super Reinhardt with Death Blow and Moonbow. Plus tossing Rally Attack on someone for him.
Also, I wonder how effective Bowbreaker would be on a flyer.
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I really like these types of systems since you can take your favorite and make them awesome.
Made a Brave Shanna and things are going swimmingly, I wanted to give her Bowbreaker but no dice
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Fliers/Armor/Cavalry actually can't be debuffed by the poison dagger, but poison strike still works, and Glacies kills everybody.
Is the 10 or so extra damage from glacies/res+3 worth more than, say, darting blow?
Also, I wonder how effective Bowbreaker would be on a flyer.
Takumi literally one-shots all the fliers on my team, so not very. Neutral atk takumi has an effective attack of 69, so good luck getting over that. It would probably be better to wait for the effective-neutralizer on the flier guy that's not out yet.
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Oh well. Guess flyer teams have to wait for Michalis to chump Takumis.
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Takumi literally one-shots all the fliers on my team, so not very. Neutral atk takumi has an effective attack of 69, so good luck getting over that. It would probably be better to wait for the effective-neutralizer on the flier guy that's not out yet.
So regarding that, the upcoming notes mentioned equippable items. There's an item in some Fire Emblem games, a shield, that protects fliers from archers. I think there's a very good chance that we'll be seeing that kind of item in-game as a partial Takumi nerf.
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Is the 10 or so extra damage from glacies/res+3 worth more than, say, darting blow?
The better magic users would stop doing scratch damage to her, so it's pretty relevant. Her Spd is also on the higher end of characters so I don't really care for more Spd.
If I were doing that I would rather put Fury which works all the time and Felicia's hp is pretty much irrelevant if a physical attacker gets to her so I don't really care about Fury draining HP.
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So regarding that, the upcoming notes mentioned equippable items. There's an item in some Fire Emblem games, a shield, that protects fliers from archers. I think there's a very good chance that we'll be seeing that kind of item in-game as a partial Takumi nerf.
Notably that same item (Iote's Shield) was translated to Awakening as a DLC skill so it could go either way.
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Iote's Shield is already a skill in the game. Michalis has it.
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Bowbreaker can't be put on fliers anyway.
Also, I don't know if you can call the free units farmable units since you can still only get one or two of them.
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Alright, processed a few upgrades. Abel now has Hone Cavalry, Julia now has Swap and the first two ranks of Quick Riposte, and Takumi has Vantage.
Reinhardt doesn't yet have anywhere near the skill points to get Death Blow 3, so I'm going to hold off feeding Ursula or Hawkeye to him for now.
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:Thinking:
Edit: :thread-killing:
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break THIS
(http://i.imgur.com/iYr0CgX.png) (http://i.imgur.com/JSHBCYq.png)
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Man, you REALLY seem to hate Nino, don't you? This is what, the second, third time you've sent the murdermaid on her?
More generally to the game holy crap what are you doing IS? Are you even paying attention or just throwing concepts at the wall and seeing what sticks(or what breaks)?
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Man, you REALLY seem to hate Nino, don't you? This is what, the second, third time you've sent the murdermaid on her?
I don't hate her, but the memes are a stain upon the earth and must be removed.
EDIT: since you asked, here's an actual fuccboi I DO hate!
(http://i.imgur.com/NSPw6IC.png)
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super tempted to give my squishy mages sacred cowl because seriously fuck all your takumis
i don't even know what to do, this is a really dumb thing because it just made the broken more broken
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Lol what
Hell yes
(https://imgur.com/SCkXBjv.jpg)
I'm actually super happy because I've been dying to get her. This is like my first magic unit too wth.
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super tempted to give my squishy mages sacred cowl because seriously fuck all your takumis
i don't even know what to do, this is a really dumb thing because it just made the broken more broken
no one at nintendo thought about this mechanic seriously besides how much money it would make them, let's be honest
and people are eating that shit up because brand name
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free femui AND reinstating of 2 daily orbs huh
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been grinding the training stratums for the 3 orb prizes and it's just so tedious
still better than playing arena tho
managed to get 20 stones with all the prizes and I pulled est/est/donnel/virion/5* Sheena :colbert:
at the very least, sheena's svalinn shield is inheritable, right?
EDIT: farmed up 20 more
>okay let's roll again
>4 blues-- one of them has gotta be...
>oboro
>oboro
>oboro
>are you fucking serious
>last blue...
(http://i.imgur.com/1SBkPgy.png)
>that's better. now the red...
(http://i.imgur.com/qrOlJJx.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/1w0cn9g.png)
i'm ok with that
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at the very least, sheena's svalinn shield is inheritable, right?
Svalinn Shield can be inherited... to other armored units.
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Leveled my MRobin up to 5*. Seems worth it. Also gave him Quick Riposte so any Takumi that attacks into him should die.
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finally ran into a takumi in arena after like 20 battles trying to fix my score
(http://i.imgur.com/ri5PD0h.png)
so much for vantage
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Ooooh shit I goofed leveling MRobin. Got him to level ~30 in his 3* and 4* forms thinking I would have plenty of skill points by the time he got to level 40 5* to cover his natural abilities and inherited ones. I did not account for the fact that he gains a number of new abilities at 5* and some of them are very expensive...
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Ooooh shit I goofed leveling MRobin. Got him to level ~30 in his 3* and 4* forms thinking I would have plenty of skill points by the time he got to level 40 5* to cover his natural abilities and inherited ones. I did not account for the fact that he gains a number of new abilities at 5* and some of them are very expensive...
3sp days for u
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"Well, Quick Riposte 2 isn't very necessary, I can skip that..."
Fuck,I already bought it for some reason.
Lyn needs like a million more SP too. I want her to have Ardent Sacrifice and I need to get her Escape Route maxed out to 3. HMMMM.
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yea the sp costs are pretty brutal need about 87~ more kills on jaffar to get poison strike 3 going.
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Jesus christ the Takumi and Jakob hate rate is too damn high... other than that it's time for MewMewHeart's orb casino adventure!
198 orbs let's do this (actually might 48 more to the mix):
First roll: 3 grays, 1 blue, and 1 red.
Result: 5* Priscilla (DUE TO MY FRIEND JYNXED IT), dupe 3* Clarine, OH BABY IT'S A DOUBLE THE LUCK 5* JAFFAR, 4* Cain, and 3* dupe Subaki.
Comment: This is good, yes yes good good!
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Just pumped in 48 more orbs in the mix let's rev it up!
Second roll: 1 Gray, 3 Green, and 1 blue.
Result: Dupe 4* Fae, dupe 3* Barte, dupe 4* Oboro, dupe 3* Setsuna, and dupe 3* Beruka
Comment: My luck is becoming random like Kancolle RNG because why the fuck not. :derp:
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Third roll: 2 green, 2 red, and 1 blue.
Result: Dupe 3* Frederick, dupe 3* Lon'qu, dupe 3* Gunter, 5* Erika (YUS! YUS! My 1st favorite Fire Emblem protag <3), and dupe 4* FCorrin.
Comment: 1st favorite Fire Emblem protag getto! :D
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Fourth roll: 2 reds, 1 blue, 1 green, and 1 gray.
Result: dupe 3* Jagen, 3* Selena/Severa, dupe 3* Gunter, dupe 4* Sophia, and dupe 3* Gaius.
Comment: At least all I need now is Camilla herself to complete one of the Nohr sets...
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Fifth roll: 3 REDS!?!, 1 gray, and 1 blue.
Result:dupe 3 star Est, 3* Hinata, dupe 3 star Lon'qu, dupe 3* Eliwood, and dupe 4* Jakob.
Comment: Now I just need Takumi to complete another set...
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Sixth roll: 3 reds and 2 grays.
Result: 4* Stahl, dupe 4* Eliwood, dupe 3* Niles, dupe 3* Stahl, dupe 3* Matthew.
Comment: 4 3 4 3 4 3 4 3 4... SHTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!
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Seventh roll: 3 reds, 1 blue, and 1 green.
Result: dupe 4* Stahl, dupe 3* Lon'qu, dupe 4* Draug, 4* Peri, and dupe 3* Nino .
Comment: Hrm... this is quite foreboding...
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Eighth roll: 2 gray, 2 blue, and 1 red.
Result: 3* Serra, dupe 3* Henry, dupe 3* Sully, ANOTHER DUPE 3* SULLY COME THE FUCK ON!!!, and dupe 4* Kagero.
Comment: DOUBLE SULLY ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE SKY!!!!
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Ninth roll: 2 red, 2 blue, and 1 green.
Result: dupe 4* Palla, ANOTHER FUCKING 4* DUPE PALLA, 4* Reinhardt (EXCUSE ME!?!), 4* Shanna, 3* dupe Cecilia.
Comment: :objection!: That 4* Reinhardt should of been a 5!!!!! :flamingv:
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Tenth roll: 3 blues, 1 red, and 1 gray.
Result: dupe 3* Stahl, dupe 4* Lachesis, dupe 4* Peri, dupe 3* Donnel, and dupe 3* Subaki.
Comment: ARE YOU SHITTING ME RIGHT NOW GAME!?!
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Eleventh roll: 2 green, 2 gray, and 1 red.
Result: dupe 3* Cecilia, dupe 3* Clarine, 4* Camilla (screw ya'll I'm happy and also Camilla and retainers set complete!), dupe 3* Setsuna, dupe 3* Fir.
Comment: Big OPPAI NEE-SAMA!!!! :*
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LAST ROLL SET!!!!
Twelfth roll: 3 reds, 2 grays, and 1 green.
Result: 5* Lucius, dupe 3* Hinata, dupe 4* Jakob, dupe 3* Lon'qu, and dupe 3* Cherche.
Comment: Yay another healer thankfully more things to come.~
Welp this ended up on a good note minus the dupe magic happening. :D
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you're not going to get me to stop hating takumi until they nerf the motherfucker :V
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you're not going to get me to stop hating takumi until they nerf the motherfucker :V
Nerf Lucina first then we'll talk. :V
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Nerf Lucina first then we'll talk. :V
Lucina is in no way comparable to Takumi.
Anyone with a competent ranged attacker will drop her like nothing, and even with Distant Counter, a lot of blue cards just came out that use magic, so they don't even care.
Takumi is automatic fuck you right out of the box to most units, and needs a 4* sacrifice to get silly instead of a 5*. Not even a close comparison.
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finally ran into a takumi in arena after like 20 battles
I say this without a shred of exaggeration or humor
Every team I have faced in that span of arena matches has had at least one takumi, and a third have had two.
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I say this without a shred of exaggeration or humor
Every team I have faced in that span of arena matches has had at least one takumi, and a third have had two.
I'm sort of running lowballer BST tactics so I don't run into people with full power teams, which probably explains why. My team isn't full Lv40, so I just run into wierd stuff, and takumi usually only every other fight nowadays, but it seems today he didn't want to come out and play as much.
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Nerf Lucina first then we'll talk. :V
I was going to ask if you were even remotely kidding but chirei beat me to it
Lucina would have to be broken to need a nerf, but instead she's squishy and vulnerable to ranged. Meanwhile Takumi has no worries about the weapon triangle, can counter at ranged and point blank, almost always attacks twice on top of being massively strong and fairly resilient for a ranged fighter. Add the inheritable skills now and he is bar none absolutely in need of being nerfed when he was already by far unforgivably broken from the start.
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I say this without a shred of exaggeration or humor
Every team I have faced in that span of arena matches has had at least one takumi, and a third have had two.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all, but I think I'm gonna track what I see in the arena for a while just out of curiosity. I always use a farmable featured unit because I have 2/10 luck and NEVER pull featured REM characters so my BST tends to be ass, but I'm going to keep track just for academic reasons. Really curious what the top ~5 most common are (we pretty much know one and two are Takumi and Lucina, no idea beyond that).
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Between these red swordsmen, which should I 5* and use on my team (I sadly do not have any of the typical ones):
Alfonse
Selena
Eliwood
Palla
I'm thinking Selena because of Triangle Adept and Armorslayer, but Alfonse looks pretty decent, too.
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Selena only seems super relevant if you're having a lot of trouble with Hector, since her Armorslayer is extra weak to the most commonly used knight (Effie).
Similarly Eliwood's Axebreaker only really seems relevant if you're finding yourself struggling with axes a lot. Or if you have a bunch of calvary units I guess.
I don't really remember what Palla does, but I know I inherited her to death so she must have some kind of good skill. Doesn't she also have the extremely dubious Ruby Sword?
Alfonse seems neat. Depends a little on how his stats shake put, but you definitely get style points with him. I'd say strongly consider him especially if you don't already have a Spur Attack user.
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Eh... 20k feathers is a lot to spend. If I had to pick one it'd be Eliwood (as he's amazing on cavalry teams), but I think you might be better off saving your feathers for a better red unit.
What are your other main units at the moment? Also, of the guys you listed, do any have particularly good boons?
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To be honest I've seen more Lucinas than Takumis.... in my arena matches... no lie... :wat:
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To be honest I've seen more Lucinas than Takumis.... in my arena matches... no lie... :wat:
Seeing them a lot =/= overpowered.
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it makes me happy that Subaki is so good at tanking Lucina with Quick Riposte and that Sapphire Lance. Meanwhile, Julia (with Lancebreaker stolen from Arthur, thank you) destroys any of the lance users that threaten Lyn, and Lyn can mop up just about anything. Maybe.
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Seeing them a lot =/= overpowered.
Yeah, it's losing to them a lot that potentially makes them overpowered, and even then if your team isn't well-balanced that's not really valid. The fact that Takumi pretty much necessitates you run a counter to him does kind of indicate that he's exceptionally good.
Speaking of which, MRobin with Quick Riposte absolutely ruins all Takumis, as expected. Takumi is now off of my team, and the new team is Camilla/Lyn/FCorrin/MRobin.
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Yeah, it's losing to them a lot that potentially makes them overpowered, and even then if your team isn't well-balanced that's not really valid. The fact that Takumi pretty much necessitates you run a counter to him does kind of indicate that he's exceptionally good.
Speaking of which, MRobin with Quick Riposte absolutely ruins all Takumis, as expected. Takumi is now off of my team, and the new team is Camilla/Lyn/FCorrin/MRobin.
I am running a very ill-advised team that basically just lets me have fun killing shit with Felicia, but has about 3 ways to kill taco meat. Only recommended if you're me.
Was waiting in line for food today and noticed my sister's friends were playing FEH and they hadn't gotten Felicia yet from the special map. I very conveniently ran into another vantage meat and oneshot him with her, causing them to get her immediately. This is probably my only motivation to keep playing, that and they might release Flora at some point so I can roll for her.
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Eh... 20k feathers is a lot to spend. If I had to pick one it'd be Eliwood (as he's amazing on cavalry teams), but I think you might be better off saving your feathers for a better red unit.
What are your other main units at the moment? Also, of the guys you listed, do any have particularly good boons?
Overall? I'm using:
Nowi
Cecilia (Who will be scrapped once I level Lucius)
and Hawkeye.
I already have Eliwood on my team, but he's noticeably bad, so i want to replace him.
I almost have Felicia and Ana ready, but not quite.
As for boons, I can't say a whole lot...
Selena: Level 1 right now...
Alfonse: http://imgur.com/a/n7cqu (It's too early to tell, I think)
Eliwood: +HP/-ATK (AKA not that great)
Palla: Also level 1...
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I can see how -ATK Eliwood without the use of Durandal would put you off using him.
I think going with Selena or Palla for now to tide you over is your best bet, but don't bring them to 5* just yet. You can try your luck with orbs to pull a better red hero, or you can wait for one of the upcoming Grand Hero Battles - three of them are swordsmen. (The upcoming one is Michalis who is green).
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Lyn with Ardent Sacrifice and Escape Route is really fun to play. I can use her like a crappy mini-healer to keep my bulkier units sustained and then she can jump in to wreck someone out of nowhere. The minor downside is that she spends less time in combat, which makes charging Gale Force even harder, but this is definitely more reliable.
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lucina is so op （;A;）
(http://i.imgur.com/Nl4xfxM.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/AI4QSmZ.jpg)
finally broke 4300 with shit team, BST too scrub to try the big leagues
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(http://i.imgur.com/o4cvmkS.jpg)
Yeah, I keep getting stuck JUST under 4300, and my BST is higher. FRobin just dies a bit too often to stuff that I don't really expect to kill her.
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(http://i.imgur.com/o4cvmkS.jpg)
Yeah, I keep getting stuck JUST under 4300, and my BST is higher. FRobin just dies a bit too often to stuff that I don't really expect to kill her.
I just keep her out of the way and have Felicia carry with Marth as backup
My BST for that team in order you see is 155/151/173/136, what's yours?
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K nvm got Lucina.
Seems legit.
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I just keep her out of the way and have Felicia carry with Marth as backup
My BST for that team in order you see is 155/151/173/136, what's yours?
175 (or 170 without abilities)/173/160/136.
Kind of surprised MRobin's stats are that low.
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175 (or 170 without abilities)/173/160/136.
Kind of surprised MRobin's stats are that low.
damn im really scrub then
wonder how we'll look after the rating rebalance update
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My current horseshit team of Julia/Abel/Reinhardt/Takumi is giving me more defensive wins this week than I think I've had in the past month. Too bad only one win actually matters.
K nvm got Lucina.
Seems legit.
See? Crisis averted, saved 20k feathers :V
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Yeah, MRobin (plus inherited skills I'm sure) have taken me from zero a week except for like the first week to a few a day.
Is anyone else regularly seeing inherited skills in PVP? I basically never see them, very rarely there's just one. Is the game only displaying them if your team is good enough to hit some threshold, or only matching people against teams with inherits if they're good, or most people just not using them?
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Yeah, MRobin (plus inherited skills I'm sure) have taken me from zero a week except for like the first week to a few a day.
Is anyone else regularly seeing inherited skills in PVP? I basically never see them, very rarely there's just one. Is the game only displaying them if your team is good enough to hit some threshold, or only matching people against teams with inherits if they're good, or most people just not using them?
I've seen only a few that all got curbstomped by my wreck it good team of Roy/Hinoka/Lachesis/Sanaki or Lyn/Clarine/FCorrin/Felicia no inherit skills because I'm all about that kick ass.
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Is anyone else regularly seeing inherited skills in PVP? I basically never see them, very rarely there's just one. Is the game only displaying them if your team is good enough to hit some threshold, or only matching people against teams with inherits if they're good, or most people just not using them?
The number of inherits I have seen with 100% accuracy is "less than me"
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K nvm got Lucina.
Seems legit.
Stahp
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This is the first week where I've had zero defenses. I blame the rise of TriAdept MRobin, who singlehanded counters my defense team, and/or people putting swordbreakers on everything. Problem is that I don't have any good blues or greens for arena, so I'm kinda stuck here unless I use my Ursula. Guess I'd better train up my cav team.
Speaking of which, MRobin with Quick Riposte absolutely ruins all Takumis, as expected. Takumi is now off of my team, and the new team is Camilla/Lyn/FCorrin/MRobin.
Slap Triangle Adept on MRobin to easily counter over half of the meta.
Edit: Oh, are we posting arena teams? This is the max I can get with my setup. Actually, I can probably get a few more points now comparing with Chirei's setup, this must have been when Olivia was a level lower or something.
(https://puu.sh/uQQ3z/54a45eb8d0.png)
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Slap Triangle Adept on MRobin to easily counter over half of the meta.
Trying to think what that counters that I don't already handle with him. I lose the ability to one-shot Takumi and can still kill all sword lords (albeit not necessarily always in one hit). Does it let him take on sword pegasi or something? My team is already generally pretty great at handling sword lords because of FCorrin. Even though she takes super damage from many of them she can still generally singlehandedly take on a whole team of them.
Edit: Dang, Triangle Adept FCorrin might be nuts though. She and MRobin together can take down physical green units as of right now so I would lose that utility, but that might be really crazytown for defense.
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I've been working on leveling up some of my weaker units now that my main team is mostly at lv40:
Ninian/MRobin/FCorrin/Lissa
Thoughts:
Ninian... she gets better, right? Because so far she's just been a squishier, weaker Azura.
MRobin: I kind of looked past this dude because I got the 4* version of him and he just wasn't performing well. After 5*ing him and giving him the upgraded Blarraven, he's a fuckin' boss.
FCorrin: I see why people like her now. She's a TANK. She just sucks up the damage like it's nothing-- and often takes very little damage from axes, of all things. And then Lissa just heals her as if nothing happened. Not super offensive, though. Not yet at least?
Lissa: LEVELING UP HEALERS IS SUCH A PAIN. But Rehabilitate is pretty much the most amazing thing.
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FCorrin: I see why people like her now. She's a TANK. She just sucks up the damage like it's nothing-- and often takes very little damage from axes, of all things. And then
Her damage output is never incredible, but between Seal Resist letting her hit hard on the backswing, high speed letting her often double up, and Draconic Aura's low cooldown working well with her high speed she can grind down enemies pretty quickly. And although her attack never becomes amazing she also gets a larger-than-normal strength boost from 4* to 5*. AND on top of all of that her Hone Attack passively boosts her DPS through others, so yeah, she contributes a lot. Definitely my favorite character in the game stats-wise.
Incidentally, I recommend giving her Pivot. It's really really handy for jumping in to tank for your squishies after they kill something.
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Trying to think what that counters that I don't already handle with him. I lose the ability to one-shot Takumi and can still kill all sword lords (albeit not necessarily always in one hit). Does it let him take on sword pegasi or something?
Because of Robin's tome, it gives him bonuses vs both reds and colorless, and he takes less damage from them as well. Not that he didn't already destroy Takumi, but now he can tank Kagero as well.
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Because of Robin's tome, it gives him bonuses vs both reds and colorless, and he takes less damage from them as well. Not that he didn't already destroy Takumi, but now he can tank Kagero as well.
Hmmm that makes sense. Interesting. I'm already pretty deep in the hole with Robin's SP, but I will take that into strong consideration. Although my Robin does survive against Kagero and one-shots her in return right now, but taking less damage would be nice I'm sure.
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MichalisIote's Shield was available for a little while earlier, and will be available again later this week. Prepare for actually being able to use flyers without having to worry as much about tacos.
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I've been spamming blue summons throughout this banner trying to get Ninian, and while I didn't get her I did finally get Effie. She's 4* because 5* in the REM is a myth (although I'm not sure if it's even possible to pull a 5* Effie?) but I'm pretty happy with that. Might try the Fortify/Ward Armor team now just to see if it works at all.
MichalisIote's Shield was available for a little while earlier, and will be available again later this week. Prepare for actually being able to use flyers without having to worry as much about tacos.
Is it on that new hero battle guy then? What do you mean available earlier?
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His map was available for an hour about 4 hours ago, as a kind of early bird thing.
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His map was available for an hour about 4 hours ago, as a kind of early bird thing.
WHAT!?! How... did I miss that???
Also I admit Takumi is OVERPOWERED GOOD GOD I DUNNO IF HALF OF HIS SKILLS ARE INHERIT OR NOT ARE NOT BUT, GOD DAMN HE WAS A BITCH TO KILL TRYING TO DO THE MARCH QUEST FOR INT+.
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The announcement was only in japanese because they didn't want Americans complaining about waking up at 7 am est
It was a tie in event to some japanese stream iirc
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WHAT!?! How... did I miss that???
Also I admit Takumi is OVERPOWERED GOOD GOD I DUNNO IF HALF OF HIS SKILLS ARE INHERIT OR NOT ARE NOT BUT, GOD DAMN HE WAS A BITCH TO KILL TRYING TO DO THE MARCH QUEST FOR INT+.
Welcome to arena, enjoy your stay (you won't)
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I pray to see Takumis at this point because MRobin gobbles them up all day long. They're free wins if you counter him hard enough. Seriously, if you have an MRobin of any star level I recommend maxing him, he pretty much handles the whole current meta.
Is there a Takumi inherit that lets him handle MRobin? Tomebreaker or something? Seems like something people will start to anti-meta if they can.
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People just run other counters to RobinM. Nino and Julia are both popular choices and both crush him.
I think I've been seeing so much Julia lately because she just flat out obliterates a large percentage of the meta.
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Julia is definitely one of the things my team struggles with the most. I'm primarily running Lyn for her and Hector right now.
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Nino and Julia are both popular choices and both crush him.
I think I've been seeing so much Julia lately because she just flat out obliterates a large percentage of the meta.
and then felicia runs both of them over, perpetuating the cycle
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and then felicia runs both of them over, perpetuating the cycle
TBH so does Sanaki if she can one round him due to her atk growth I mean mines already has 41 atk at level 31.
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TBH so does Sanaki if she can one round him due to her atk growth I mean mines already has 41 atk at level 31.
but felicia also runs her over, perpetuating the cycle
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And Camilla steamrolls Felicia! But not much else because Camilla is seated pretty poorly in the meta frankly. She does handle most or all of the glass cannon mages, but she really struggles getting close to them safely because so much stuff unilaterally flattens her.
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Of course now Chirei is probably gonna freezedry Camilla with her because you said that. (I kid, I kid, and an AI Camilla is undoubtedly going to be less deadly than a player-controlled one I know)
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Of course now Chirei is probably gonna freezedry Camilla with her because you said that. (I kid, I kid, and an AI Camilla is undoubtedly going to be less deadly than a player-controlled one I know)
she was already one-rounding camillas with the silver dagger prefore I promoted her, camilla is small beans
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People just run other counters to RobinM. Nino and Julia are both popular choices and both crush him.
I think I've been seeing so much Julia lately because she just flat out obliterates a large percentage of the meta.
Amusingly enough I ran into a team with a Julia and *three* MRobins last night. I run FRobin, which means Blue Tomebreaker.
Sadly it wasn't a flawless victory since the Hana I sent after Julia got blown up by the MRobin behind her, but it was an easy win regardless.
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Why not both??? ^^;;
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Camilla's one of my highest leveled units at the moment even though she's 4*. Since she's rather squishy though, I usually tend to hold her back a bit, so I'm trying something out by turning her into a bit of a support character after slapping Harsh Command on her. If that doesn't work out, I'm gonna see how Rally Attack does. Admittedly, she isn't as squishy as she used to be, but she still seems squishier than my Lissa, which is... something.
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So just for weird reference purposes I recorded all of the enemies I saw in PVP over the weekend. So for my last 18 games these are the enemy frequencies. Note that I never saw duplicates of an enemy within a single team so these are all spread out one per team, and my arena score was 4275 the whole time.
7/18 teams: Tiki (adult)
4/18 teams: Camilla, Effie, MRobin, Takumi
3/18 teams: Ephraim, Kagero, Lucina, Marth, Nowi, Roy, Sharena
2/18 teams: Cordelia, Lyn, Ninian, Olwen, Tharja
1/18 teams: Beruka, Erika, FCorrin, Felicia, Gunter, Hawkeye, Hector, Jeorge, Julia, Lissa, MCorrin, Minerva, Nino, Peri, Reinhardt, Ryoma, Sakura, Sheena
No appearances: Everyone else
Interesting results. I'm going to continue to keep track of this. It doesn't get us anywhere terribly specific, but it's at least a vaguely interesting snapshot of a particular corner of the meta on a particular weekend with a small sample size.
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7/18 teams: Tiki (adult)
people trying to abuse the lightning breath?
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Ran through arena last night now that I have one of the characters that give bonus points (which, I need to add, is another REALLY DUMB MECHANIC). Team was Ninian (20)/MRobin (40)/Camilla (40)/Lucina (40). Made pretty easy work of it all with few misplays and deaths and ended up with 39xx points. So close to the 4000 mark :(
What surprises me, though, is that all of my rounds were astonishingly straightforward. I don't think I saw more than one Takumi in 7 rounds. Lucky!
I wonder if the level of your leader determines the difficulty, in a sense-- because I feel like it should not have gone that smoothly considering that I was technically running 3.5 units (Ninian was useless unless she was dancing).
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The difficulty, as well as your overall score ceiling, is tied to your team's total base stat total. So having an underleveled character means you're fighting easier opponents and they may not all be max level, but your maximum possible score is lower than if your team was all max level and your opponents were harder.
Notably there's some kind of rebalancing coming up that will tweak how this is calculated, but I'm not sure if we're expecting the difference to be very large.
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(http://i.imgur.com/jwbFA3y.jpg)
That's nice uh don't touch any of my stuff please.
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Hmm. Not directly related to the mobage, but is FE Fates worth getting into? I've heard mixed reviews on it (granted, a lot of negativity I hear is from people who prefer the older games, which I couldn't get into as well). And if so, does the order in which you play them matter? I hear you're supposed to play Birthright first, but Conquest has always looked more interesting to me.
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Yes, much of the recent criticism of it is picky whining to an absurd degree. That's not to say it isn't flawed, it isn't perfect obviously, but most of the reasoning you'll get for why it's Worst Game Evar is total nonsense. Fates is very good. It's got some ridiculous stuff and bad ideas in it, but I put like 350+ hours into it and I'm glad I did.
You can start with Conquest, and in fact I recommend it. Conquest *is* Fates as far as I'm concerned, it's an entirely complete and satisfying experience unlike the other games. Birthright is insultingly easy unless you go way out of your way to give yourself a challenge,and Revelation (which isn't intended to be played first anyway) is a pacing quagmire with very uneven difficulty.
So I definitely recommend picking up Conquest, and if you enjoy it then branching out into the other titles is probably worth your time. Just be warned that what people say about the difficulty is true. Conquest is a very hard game. It's more of a fair difficulty than some of the stuff in Awakening, but it's ultimately a much tougher game.
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Hmm. Not directly related to the mobage, but is FE Fates worth getting into? I've heard mixed reviews on it (granted, a lot of negativity I hear is from people who prefer the older games, which I couldn't get into as well). And if so, does the order in which you play them matter? I hear you're supposed to play Birthright first, but Conquest has always looked more interesting to me.
My brother gave me his Special Edition to play with (don't try looking for this, it was limited print and probably well over 150-200 dollars rn) which has all three routes, and I'd say Fates felt like a giant experiment to IS. There are definitely some interesting things they tried to do, and some interesting in a bad way. I would definitely give it a try. I went BR>CQ>RV all on Hard/Classic and i'd say my experience came out mostly enjoyable. You can turn down the difficulty at any time if the bullshit parts get to be a bit much.
CQ is very close to the older games in playstyle, unless you are like some people I know who just bought dlc to cheat their way through the limitations. I would say on Hard and up that it is absolutely not for the faint of heart. Some have even said that this is one of the hardest if not the hardest entry in the series, assuming you use no dlc of course. Chapter 10 is the make-or-break point, and it gets worse from there in good and bad ways.
(http://i.imgur.com/jwbFA3y.jpg)
That's nice uh don't touch any of my stuff please.
your phone and computer are now encased in ice and have their warranties voided
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The story for Fates leaves something to be desired but the gameplay seems decent.
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Where is my Tellius banner?
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The story of every Fire Emblem game is more of a mess than Fire Emblem fanboy is probably going to be willing to admit, but Fates is messier thsn most.
The real draw, fluff-wise, is always the characters, and Fates is a home run there. Although when I say "Fates" I again really mean Conquest, since the Birthright cast is mostly unusually weak in my opinion.
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I should probably also mention that choosing whether you are a guy or a girl at the start matters more than ever, as it will determine who your "bro" unit is at the beginning of the game. There are notable differences between them both.
The story of every Fire Emblem game is more of a mess than Fire Emblem fanboy is probably going to be willing to admit, but Fates is messier thsn most.
They all definitely have holes yeah, Fates is just standout weird in some aspects like several gameplay/story disconnects and the continent not even having a name. Even the FEH continent has one...
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(http://i.imgur.com/qrbqoGE.png)
So THIS is Effie. What a bloody fight.
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Yeah, Effie is a fucking nightmare if you're not ready for her.
In my Conquest lunatic run I had her riding her flying son around for a huge movement and stat boost. An Effie who can move 8-9 squares over water and mountains is like unto a god.😆
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I had a Julia to fight her, until some prick with a Brave Sword and Wings of Mercy used MRobin as a hell portal.
Sheeshus. Check your foes' abilities, seriously.
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It should be noted that Effie is a strange outlier for armored units in her source game, having a spd cap modifier of +1, which can actually make her kind of fast if you make her a fast class.
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I hear you're supposed to play Birthright first, but Conquest has always looked more interesting to me.
Nohr siblings > Hoshido siblings
True challenge > Scrub league
Nohr master race forever
But I've yet to get to birthright so. Not that I have any reason to think I'm mistaken.
e: is anyone using a healer in their teams? I have an Elise that's sitting at an excess of >700 sp that I'd like to find some use for.
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I'm actually kind of wondering if making a sort of battle cleric is viable. Can they learn offensive specials? Pick a healer with decent defensive stats, slap their strongest (not necessarily most useful) offensive spell on them, while still letting them have Rehabilitate or something, and give them passives that assist in battle viability. Seems like they could pair well with a tank-ish character?
And ah, I see. I may pick up Birthright first-- it honestly seems like the less exciting one and since I want to play all of Fates, going back to it after the challenge and higher interest factor of Conquest may feel unsatisfactory.
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I'm actually kind of wondering if making a sort of battle cleric is viable. Can they learn offensive specials? Pick a healer with decent defensive stats, slap their strongest (not necessarily most useful) offensive spell on them, while still letting them have Rehabilitate or something, and give them passives that assist in battle viability. Seems like they could pair well with a tank-ish character?
I think you can but remember clerics do half damage or something for some arbitrary reason
And ah, I see. I may pick up Birthright first-- it honestly seems like the less exciting one and since I want to play all of Fates, going back to it after the challenge and higher interest factor of Conquest may feel unsatisfactory.
If nothing else, it will get you used to all of the nuances of Fates if Awakening was your previous experience, and then you should be good to go for Conquest.
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But I've yet to get to birthright so. Not that I have any reason to think I'm mistaken.
Weren't you working on a lunatic run at one time? How's that going? Any progress?
e: is anyone using a healer in their teams? I have an Elise that's sitting at an excess of >700 sp that I'd like to find some use for.
I have used Serra at times. Healers are handy for sure. Especially since they can make great bait to distract enemies from finishing off other weakened characters who they could otherwise kill. Not sure exactly how the AI works there, but I've seen enemies make dumb choices when presented with the opportunity to attack (not even necessarily kill) a healer.
I'm actually kind of wondering if making a sort of battle cleric is viable. Can they learn offensive specials? Pick a healer with decent defensive stats, slap their strongest (not necessarily most useful) offensive spell on them, while still letting them have Rehabilitate or something, and give them passives that assist in battle viability. Seems like they could pair well with a tank-ish character?
Hmm, that's a good question actually. I could see that really working if they can use offensive skills. Might be a good place to use Martyr? Let me know if you find anything out.
I think you can but remember clerics do half damage or something for some arbitrary reason
I honestly don't think it's arbitrary, it makes sense given how arena score calculation works. Design didn't want them hitting very hard, but couldn't give them very low strength because it would make them too shitty in PVP.
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This one isn't ideal, but it'll do for now.
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Can healers learn Wary Fighter? Because it seems like a Martyr user with Wary Fighter might be actually amazing. Especially if you have a buddy or two with Fury to make sure you have something to heal.
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Can healers learn Wary Fighter? Because it seems like a Martyr user with Wary Fighter might be actually amazing. Especially if you have a buddy or two with Fury to make sure you have something to heal.
nope
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Tried inheriting an offensive special/offensive passive to Lissa, and it said I couldn't due to weapon limitations. How very sad. This is why I hope promotions/job class switches can be a thing. Give me Falcon Knight healer or War Cleric Lissa :(
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Ninian really has Fortify Dragon? Guess I can roll Tiki/Fae/FCorrin/Ninian for shenanigans.
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Speaking of battle clerics, has anyone else tried Reciprocate on a bulky offensive unit? It's what I've been doing, and it's working well, since I can pass heals around from an actual healer, too.
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Woah guys reposition is legit awesome. It's like a combination of draw back, swap, and smite, all in one assist. Only you can decide which function you want it to serve in any situation. Maybe some teams would prefer smite over reposition, but for fliers I would say this is probably a straight upgrade. It does have the small risk where if you want to use it like smite, your reposition user has to move towards the enemy, but I think the benefits more than make up for it.
It's even funnier with fliers since you can attack over a mountain or river and then reposition them behind it so melee ground units can't even reach them. I thought about getting draw back just for this terrain manipulation but was weighing it with smite when I considered reposition instead. Two in one, really.
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Fuuuuuck I just had a perfect arena run with zero units lost but I goofed and brought some random team to one battle, so I only got 6/7 featured unit bonuses. Oh well, room for improvement I guess...
Edit: Okay, put Reposition on my Camilla, who formerly had Smite so I can directly compare the difference.
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Woah guys reposition is legit awesome. It's like a combination of draw back, swap, and smite, all in one assist. Only you can decide which function you want it to serve in any situation. Maybe some teams would prefer smite over reposition, but for fliers I would say this is probably a straight upgrade. It does have the small risk where if you want to use it like smite, your reposition user has to move towards the enemy, but I think the benefits more than make up for it.
It's even funnier with fliers since you can attack over a mountain or river and then reposition them behind it so melee ground units can't even reach them. I thought about getting draw back just for this terrain manipulation but was weighing it with smite when I considered reposition instead. Two in one, really.
I can vouch for this. I had Selena as one of my earliest units and i completely fell in love with Reposition right away. I have since then summoned 5 Barsts which I'll never use and am thinking hard who to give all of those Repositions to. My highest priority will probably be Eldigan, as he'd pretty much do the same things Selena did, just better because of more movement. Fliers do sound appealing, too.
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Is it just me, or is Ninian just really, really bad, dance aside? She's so weak and squishy and can't handle anything on her own. It makes leveling her up a nightmare.
I 4*'d my Subaki and inherited Quick Riposte 2 and Swap onto my MRobin. Hopefully once I get those learned, he'll be a Takumi-smashing machine.
I really wish I knew what inherits to give my units, but I honestly can never decide. Is there some kind of guide?
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Ninian does seem to be a straight downgrade to Azura. Maybe in the future where every team doesn't have a Lucina or Julia or both you can run a team of dragons to make full use of Fortify Dragons, but even then I'd rather use Goad Dragons or something.
I still want to pull Ninian though.
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Is it just me, or is Ninian just really, really bad, dance aside? She's so weak and squishy and can't handle anything on her own. It makes leveling her up a nightmare.
Do you happen to know her BST? It'd be interesting to compare it to Azura and Nowi.
I 4*'d my Subaki and inherited Quick Riposte 2 and Swap onto my MRobin. Hopefully once I get those learned, he'll be a Takumi-smashing machine.
That's the exact setup I have, and... Yeah, that'll work. I considered Triangle Master but honestly as-is Robin can still take big chunks out of most popular non-Julia green units and I don't really want to lose that.
I really wish I knew what inherits to give my units, but I honestly can never decide. Is there some kind of guide?
I think so. Whatever the main database is has one. Unfortunately the game kind of discourages experimentation since SP is so hard to get.
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Do you happen to know her BST? It'd be interesting to compare it to Azura and Nowi.
Azura and Ninian are both 149, but Ninian's stat spread is much worse - basically took Azura's decent ATK and moved it into HP. Azura's a threat not only because of Sing, but because she can take out swordies with Sapphire Lance. Oh, and she's not weak to Lucina/Marth/Chrom (Julia still wrecks her but that's another story).
Nowi has 163 which is the highest non-armor BST in the game.
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Azura's defenses are comparable with Ninian's, and her offensive capabilities are MUCH higher because of the Sapphire Lance. Her speed is high enough that she'll often double a lot of units too, so I slapped Astra on her and she can just wreck things on her own. I do want to give her something more defensive though, since Astra assumes she's taking some hits too to charge it up at any reliable pace-- or maybe Killer Lance+ for the faster charge, but that'll be a bitch to get the SP for. On the other hand, giving her Escape Route like Ninian could be useful too, just for the added utility.
The only reason I'm really using Ninian at all is because the Arena demands her over Azura for ranking purposes, but after this rotation I'll likely drop her.
Additional thought: Killer/Brave weapon + Sacred Cowl/Escutcheon would practically give constant defensive uptime for a squishier unit.
I really, REALLY wish this game were less stingy with the grindables. There's a lot of room for exploration with team building and inherits, but if you can't reliably farm crystals, SP, and ESPECIALLY those damned feathers, then it's just a huge, grindy slog (read: not fun). I want to feel like I'm making some kind of progress in the game, and to be very honest, the benefits of ranking up units and inherits, while nice, are situational and the benefits are marginal. It doesn't feel like my effort earned much reward (using PAD as a reference point, where high-effort evolutions feel much more rewarding by giving a much stronger unit who is noticeably better than its previous form, or changes how the character is played for that added variety).
I really want to like this game and in a sense I do because I keep playing it (but it's more because it's always in my pocket and I'm pretty much burned out on PAD for the rest of my life outside of the events that interest me), but there's so much room for improvement and so much potential this kind of game could have that it doesn't. It really just makes me want to play the actual Fire Emblem games instead of it, which may be part of the point-- the push in interest makes me want to buy the games instead.
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The grind HAS been slowly easing up since launch, for what that's worth. Feathers are easier to get, experience is easy to get, and SP is going to become (slightly) easier to get. I think the game is groping toward some kind of equilibrium. It might even find itself able to put out content more consistently once the new rulesets cone out. It's definitely very very flawed, but there's been a gradual slope of improvement that's pretty encouraging.
Along those lines, what do you guys think of inheritance? The refrain when it was announced was "This is going to break the game" but at this point I think it's added a lot of nice interaction. It's been a huge net positive so far in my opinion. Not THE fix the game needed necessarily, but definitely something positive.
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It made strong units a bit stronger and weak units much more viable (with effort). Overall a very nice change and allows people with favorite units to spice them up as they want.
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As far as inheritance goes, I'm less heated about it now that we know it has limitations, and I do like that it makes characters that were originally very difficult to play much more viable. I don't like that it makes the ridiculously strong even stronger, which just shifts the imbalance laterally toward power creep rather than balance (still looking at you, Takumi). I also don't like that I have to completely sacrifice a unit to give only a few of their abilities to another-- it'd be much better if you could just "equip" them to other units (like Assists in PAD)-- and it's flavorful too, since it's reminiscent of the way you can rescue/pair up units in Fire Emblem itself. I especially don't like that it hugely emphasizes more grinding by making it so that you have to pay 1.5x SP just to learn the skills, too (have fun getting those tier 3 passives lmao).
At the same time, the limitations do disappoint me a bit, too. I want to make offensive clerics, dammit!
I'm a bit less pissy about Takumi now that I have a beefed up MRobin, but it's extremely disappointing that he's more or less a necessity to counter Takumi, which sucks for people who weren't lucky enough to pull him. There still needs to be improvement that either brings other units up to Takumi's level, or brings him down to others.
Either that, or we get more anti-archer units as new characters are released. On that note, I wonder which characters will be added in the next update?
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I mean, personally I would love Awakening and Fates offspring characters, but Ike really does need his due even though I don't particularly care for him myself.
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I really want to like this game and in a sense I do because I keep playing it (but it's more because it's always in my pocket and I'm pretty much burned out on PAD for the rest of my life outside of the events that interest me), but there's so much room for improvement and so much potential this kind of game could have that it doesn't. It really just makes me want to play the actual Fire Emblem games instead of it, which may be part of the point-- the push in interest makes me want to buy the games instead.
There are some who theorize that this is basically going to be like another pokemon go due to the lack of content and is merely hype generation for Echoes.
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I really can't buy that. This game has already had exponentially more support than Go.
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There are some who theorize that this is basically going to be like another pokemon go due to the lack of content and is merely hype generation for Echoes.
Isn't Echoes in itself just hype generation for FE Switch?
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Weren't you working on a lunatic run at one time? How's that going? Any progress?
Still am, beat sakura and got to takumi's stage. That was about 2 weeks ago but my sister has been borrowing my 3ds so it's a bit on hold for awhile again. Slooowly getting there though.
Along those lines, what do you guys think of inheritance? The refrain when it was announced was "This is going to break the game" but at this point I think it's added a lot of nice interaction. It's been a huge net positive so far in my opinion. Not THE fix the game needed necessarily, but definitely something positive.
I am quite loving inheritance, the customizing aspect is great. I haven't yet run into anything gamebreaking and my takumi experience has always been oneshot-or-be-oneshotted -- so he doesn't change for me -- so my mood is as of yet unspoilt.
I just realized that quick riposte on hinoka is a one turn full special charge if I just let someone run into her (well, provided they don't die before getting stabbed in the face quadra times). I didn't have anything in her B-slot so there she has it. Right now I'm very much deliberating over whether I should give one of my backrow fliers reciprocal aid since that would allow my camilla to use ardent sacrifice and immediately have access to desperation instead of having to engage the enemy first. But that would take up an assist slot that could otherwise have been used for another reposition/smite. The reason being that right now hinoka is the one that I stuck reposition on just to test it out, which means that camilla is right now my most mobile unit, but she can't orko takumi without desperation.
Also I tried sticking knock back on Elise now that she's maxed out and sitting at almost 900 extra sp because it would have been pretty funny if combined with gravity, but I couldn't. Sadness. And healers can't inherit offensive specials so none of that either. Well I was planning on trying out a mono-flier team anyway.
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Isn't Echoes in itself just hype generation for FE Switch?
I wouldn't say that. It takes a ton of guts and resources to basically localize out of nowhere what amounts to the Zelda 2 of FE, probably way more than they've invested into FEH. I think this is them trying to bridge the gap Awakening caused between oldboy and newschool players.
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Good tip on Reposition, Mea. I just threw it on a freshly 40 Hinoka and it's hilarious. Threw Julia into certain doom to explode a RobinM, then pulled her amnesiac ass out of harm's way, leaving the Lucina and Marth to break themselves upon Hinoka's body.
Edit: Whoops :V
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So I'll say this about tge SP grind for inherited skill: Grinding is never great, but this is far from mindless. It essentially makes a "create your own scenario" kind of feel because maxed our characters need to kill other tough high-level characters and survive to get SP.
All those hoops to jump through does keep things interesting, when all of my tenth stratum training tower runs become "Kill everything with Lyn and have her survive". I think it's gratuitous, but as grinding goes it's reasonably engaging.
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I wouldn't say that. It takes a ton of guts and resources to basically localize out of nowhere what amounts to the Zelda 2 of FE, probably way more than they've invested into FEH. I think this is them trying to bridge the gap Awakening caused between oldboy and newschool players.
My take on this is that the nerdy branch in IS had this baby side-project for years (since Awakening revived the franchise, probably) and it's taken them the 3DS's runtime to complete it, because most of the resources went on the main line with Fates. Echoes coming out is sort of a luxury because of all the money Awakening and Fates raked in and doesn't seem like a priority or something that represents the franchise, just a passion project.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. After all, it had almost zero hype built up for Heroes itself, they just came out one day and said, "Hey, Fire Emblem Heroes!". If they were really trying to use Heroes strategically, they would've announced it two months before its release like Super Mario Run, instead of announcing it two weeks before it comes out. It clearly wasn't supposed to be a particularly big announcement.
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"Hey, 10 free orbs! Time for one last chance at a 5* from this banner. I really would like a Ninian!"
>lucius
Game... game, please :(
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"20 stones, I'll just do five pulls. It's been an absolutely ridiculous number of pulls (probably approaching a hundred) since I pulled a five-star, much less a non-trash one, so I'll gladly take whatever."
-5/5 duplicate three-stars, fuck you for trying
Oh... Uh, okay. That's cool too I guess...
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RNG: It Just Works?
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*headdesk*
Honestly there's not even anything terribly specific I want, I have the bases covered already for the most part. I should just get my hands on a solid 5* dancer and healer, but I mean, I can upgrade Olivia and Lissa, so I don't badly need any specific character.
I guess I do really want a Beruka for that Camilla entourage team too, but that's a looooong term project so it can definitely wait.
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Bruh
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Woo mission faccomplished! I'm gonna quit while I'm ahead, no more rolling for awhile.
Now I can do a side mono-dragons team project. Maybe give adult tiki wary fighter or something, fcorrin, and some random green dragon, fae I guess??
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WUT
Well, congrats. Dang you guys.
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Bruh
any awesomeness gained from pulling felicia is nullified from having jakob in the same pool
2/10
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25 orbs let's see what I get!
Roll: 2 reds, 2 grays, and 1 blue let's see how RNG is... 3* Laslow/Indigo (NOW TRULY ALL I NEED IS XANDER), dupe 4* Gordin, dupe 5* Azura :derp: , dupe 4* Setsuna, and dupe 3* Olivia.
Thanks RNG, but Imma feed my 5* Azura to my already trained one or give Laslow inherit dance because ya know things. :derp:
MewMewHeart.exe has stopped working due to 5* Azura.
Question: Should I 5* my Camilla?
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Question: Should I 5* my Camilla?
If she isn't +atk or +spd nature, then you should consider fiving someone else
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If she isn't +atk or +spd nature, then you should consider fiving someone else
You mean like a buffer or stat wise? Mines is currently: 27 atk, 21 def, 23 spd, and 24 res.
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You mean like a buffer or stat wise? Mines is currently: 27 atk, 21 def, 23 spd, and 24 res.
as in her iv set, or nature, whatever you want to call it. If you go to the rank up screen, you can see her 5-star level 1 base stats. Compare that with the base stats listed here (https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/hero/camilla) (remembering to subtract her weapon mt) and find out what her high stat is. If it isn't atk or spd, I would suggest against it.
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as in her iv set, or nature, whatever you want to call it. If you go to the rank up screen, you can see her 5-star level 1 base stats. Compare that with the base stats listed here (https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/hero/camilla) (remembering to subtract her weapon mt) and find out what her high stat is. If it isn't atk or spd, I would suggest against it.
18 hp/ 12 atk/ 4 spd/ 6 def / 7 res if I 5 star her and let see how it compares... hrm... kinda mediocre tbh...
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Ugh. This is my seventh Tsubski (second today) and fourth Odin (second today). Fuck me...
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Ugh. This is my seventh Tsubski (second today) and fourth Odin (second today). Fuck me...
Tell that to the many Gaius and other 3* crap I've gotten.
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18 hp/ 12 atk/ 4 spd/ 6 def / 7 res if I 5 star her and let see how it compares... hrm... kinda mediocre tbh...
So what you have is a +spd-atk nature (remember to add 5 to spd because of the brave axe, then subtract 5 atk also because of the brave axe). The +spd is good but the -atk hurts too much, wouldn't recommend it.
To whoever said that leveling healers is back-breaking, try ninian. Try grinding -atk ninian. The most annoying thing is not being able to sing/dance her, takes forever. I don't even want to begin to imagine the sp grinding hell once she's maxed. She's 5 stars too so no extra level bonuses since no more promotions.
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So what you have is a +spd-atk nature (remember to add 5 to spd because of the brave axe, then subtract 5 atk also because of the brave axe). The +spd is good but the -atk hurts too much, wouldn't recommend it.
To whoever said that leveling healers is back-breaking, try ninian. Try grinding -atk ninian. The most annoying thing is not being able to sing/dance her, takes forever. I don't even want to begin to imagine the sp grinding hell once she's maxed. She's 5 stars too so no extra level bonuses since no more promotions.
Ugh.... but to be honest she's been holding her own even though with the negatives on her Imma hold back on 5* and see if I can ask anyone else their opinions... thanks for the input Mea.
Edit: Ironically she has more attack than her speed by a lot...
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Ugh. This is my seventh Tsubski (second today) and fourth Odin (second today). Fuck me...
Subaki is useful, but... man, I can't imagine having seven of him.
I want Odin to be useful, but man, his stats are just really bad...
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Odin IS useful!
... As a source of Moonbow.
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As a waifu-blind Camilla fanboy I'll say this for her: She is very niche. There ARE a lot of units she absolutely wrecks, but I'd say more often than not she just ends up on Reposition duty because she can't scratch anyone on the opposing team.
The best use for Camilla is as a pocket counter for things that other members of your team struggle with. Like, my current team is three blue characters who deal magic damage and Camilla. There are things my blue mages just can't touch (Julia, some pegasus units) and Camilla works great for those. So she is an important member of the team for handling the holes in my offensive coverage and she is integral to my overall success, but that's because I have a weird imbalanced team.
Should you 5* her? Honestly depends on how badly you need something to cover the units she is good against and how easily you can handle things that she sucks against (sword lords, many Takumis, armor units).
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As a waifu-blind Camilla fanboy I'll say this for her: She is very niche. There ARE a lot of units she absolutely wrecks, but I'd say more often than not she just ends up on Reposition duty because she can't scratch anyone on the opposing team.
The best use for Camilla is as a pocket counter for things that other members of your team struggle with. Like, my current team is three blue characters who deal magic damage and Camilla. There are things my blue mages just can't touch (Julia, some pegasus units) and Camilla works great for those. So she is an important member of the team for handling the holes in my offensive coverage and she is integral to my overall success, but that's because I have a weird imbalanced team.
Should you 5* her? Honestly depends on how badly you need something to cover the units she is good against and how easily you can handle things that she sucks against (sword lords, many Takumis, armor units).
To be honest... she's also good enough to help me bridge the gap when I need her to do so... she also, helps me good against armored lance units with some help from FCorrin so, yeah she needs a 5* and I'll just deal with whatever the game throws at me she might be the thing I'll need encase things go wrong. O.o
I'm more of a Hinoka, Elise, Ryoma, Takumi, and Jakob fangirl, but Camilla holds a special place in my heart to be honest.
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I want Odin to be useful, but man, his stats are just really bad...
poor odin dark
still as bad as he was in fates
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I suspect Camilla is gonna get a whole lot more usable once you rip Iote's Shield from Michalis.
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I don't know how much that helps her honestly, since she still gets wrecked by all sword lords. What slot does it go in? Isn't it A?
But yeah she fits very nicely on a team with FCorrin. They're very much complementary units which is super thematic and makes me happy.
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I don't know how much that helps her honestly, since she still gets wrecked by all sword lords. What slot does it go in? Isn't it A?
But yeah she fits very nicely on a team with FCorrin. They're very much complementary units which is super thematic and makes me happy.
Imma go ahead and 5* her now after I'm done cooking dinner for my aunt.
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> Gets new phone contract
> Is eligible for a special offer that none of the rest of my family is
Now I have a tablet. So... uh... time to try this I guess!
I don't really have a clue what I'm doing on this; but from what I can tell the overall character obtaining cycle is similar to Dokkan Battle; but the gameplay is Fire Emblem. So I should enjoy this.
I summoned a Chrom. But he's 4 star? I'd have imagined him as 5.
I just summoned a 5 star as well; Jaffar?
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I'm not sure exactly how the rarity system breaks down, but it's possible to pull most or all characters at multiple different rarity levels. You can upgrade any unit all the way to 5*, although it's fairly costly so you can't do it often.
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The most annoying thing is not being able to sing/dance her, takes forever. I don't even want to begin to imagine the sp grinding hell once she's maxed. She's 5 stars too so no extra level bonuses since no more promotions.
Unequip dance when you're leveling her, then you should be able to dance her.
I summoned a Chrom. But he's 4 star? I'd have imagined him as 5.
I just summoned a 5 star as well; Jaffar?
You can view the summoning pool and rarities of all the characters if you press details. Characters are rollable at 3*/4*, 4*/5*, or 5* only. Characters in banners have rollable 5* versions even if they were originally 3*/4* only.
Also, the pity 5* bonus resets after every banner, so when possible, save a lot of orbs to roll on the same banner to maximize your chances.
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So just for the record, I'm still recording my Arena battles and while I'm not ready to post updated results yet, I can easily see that Tiki is BY FAR the most-used unit in the game. Is anyone else seeing this?
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So just for the record, I'm still recording my Arena battles and while I'm not ready to post updated results yet, I can easily see that Tiki is BY FAR the most-used unit in the game. Is anyone else seeing this?
Not even remotely, no.
I see her fairly often, but nowhere close to Takumi and Lucina.
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So just for the record, I'm still recording my Arena battles and while I'm not ready to post updated results yet, I can easily see that Tiki is BY FAR the most-used unit in the game. Is anyone else seeing this?
TOO MANY DAMN LUCINAS IN MY ARENA SEND HELP and now I'm seldom seeing Takumis also SEND HELP.
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Unequip dance when you're leveling her, then you should be able to dance her.
oh my gosh that is genius!! I'm ashamed that this hasn't occurred to me.
As a waifu-blind Camilla fanboy I'll say this for her: She is very niche. There ARE a lot of units she absolutely wrecks, but I'd say more often than not she just ends up on Reposition duty because she can't scratch anyone on the opposing team.
What's your verdict on reposition vs smite so far?
I'm considering bringing up a Subaki since he's the tankiest flying unit right now (besides beruka, but she's green and also slow) and may even give him the iote's shield once that's available. I would consider giving hinoka one as well but she already one shots takumi, which is always my first and highest priority. Her defiant def is probably going to waste atm, I can't remember a time when that was useful but I also don't know what A-passive to give her yet.
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Not even remotely, no.
I see her fairly often, but nowhere close to Takumi and Lucina.
So I posted my previous notes earlier. I haven't combined the numbers yet, but in the last few days I've seen seven Tikis, three Lucinas, and three Takumis in 18 battles. That's pretty close to exactly how my last 18 went.
I'm not necessarily saying this is fully representative, it might have something to do with my BST or something. But it's certainly unexpected.
What's your verdict on reposition vs smite so far?
It's much more useful almost all of the time. Good call. I suspect it has diminishing returns the less mobile the unit is to the point that Smite may be better on armored units, but I think they're generally going to be running Pivot anyway so I doubt it matters.
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What rank are you, out of curiosity?
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What rank are you, out of curiosity?
47,801 at the moment. Lot of room for improvement this time around.
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Oh, sorry. Used the wrong word. Meant arena tier.
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Tier 8. Isn't that basically just based on when we started playing? Do we know what it determines?
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I have no idea, was just thinking that might have something to do with it.
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I would assume it's merely how many times you've played in the arena. I skipped the arena a few times and so I'm tier 6 even though we all started on launch, so it's not just when you started.
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I have no idea, was just thinking that might have something to do with it.
definitely doesn't
I notice that if I put effie into a team and enter the arena, I get hector like 99% of the time
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I would assume it's merely how many times you've played in the arena. I skipped the arena a few times and so I'm tier 6 even though we all started on launch, so it's not just when you started.
Right, I gotcha, hence "basically".
definitely doesn't
I notice that if I put effie into a team and enter the arena, I get hector like 99% of the time
Wait, really? Do you have actual stats on that? I should experiment with that after I get my score capped I guess because that's nuts if so.
Although if all of these Tikis is supposed to be the game fucking with me then it's doing a really bad job. My three blue magic units doooooon't really caaaaare about her.
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Wait, really? Do you have actual stats on that? I should experiment with that after I get my score capped I guess because that's nuts if so.
within the 630+ range I got hector like 11/12 fights, which really sucks because armored units blow to use
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So just for the record, I'm still recording my Arena battles and while I'm not ready to post updated results yet, I can easily see that Tiki is BY FAR the most-used unit in the game. Is anyone else seeing this?
For me it's still Takumi, who I'm matched with roughly 9 out of 10 times.
Disgusting.
Tiki is common, but with Lucina on board she's not a threat to me.
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Yeah, actually. Why is Tiki so common? I get Taco being overused, for obvious reasons, but Tiki? What does Tiki have that's a threat to anything other than Axe Knights? I have Nowi and Lucina, so I don't have any trouble squashing Tiki users, but if she's so overused she must be good against something popular.
Or, I don't know... Tiki was a Focus unit at launch and basically everyone (except me but I can't complain cuz Nowi) got her and doesn't care that she's meh.
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Yeah, actually. Why is Tiki so common? I get Taco being overused, for obvious reasons, but Tiki? What does Tiki have that's a threat to anything other than Axe Knights? I have Nowi and Lucina, so I don't have any trouble squashing Tiki users, but if she's so overused she must be good against something popular.
Or, I don't know... Tiki was a Focus unit at launch and basically everyone (except me but I can't complain cuz Nowi) got her and doesn't care that she's meh.
ccool mentioned adult tiki so I will assume two reasons
1) lightning breath that counters at all ranges
2) dragon boobs
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I think a lot of it has to do with her high-ass BST. And the fact that everyone has her, and I guess she's a Hector counter.
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I think Tiki also comes at 3*.
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Yeah, Hector is hard for me to deal with for sure. I try to keep specials charged for him so I can hit him as hard as possible.
I wonder when we'll get the next rotation of new characters. I have 40 orbs burning a hole in my pocket.
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Effie x Tiki (the good kind) has been my strategy since Week 2.
Actually it's still my strategy. What are 5 stars?
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I think I might change my defense team - I need something that forces a victory condition like "You lose if you don't have a sword or mage left over against Hector"
Subaki, I can only imagine, does horribly on defense when you can't wait for people to trigger Quick Riposte and specifically bait Lucina :c
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Now that I have Ninian at lv40, I'll say that it feels really nice to have a fully functioning team for arena with no dead weights for once.
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Wow, I expected this hero challenge to be a bit easier, but not necessarily THAT easy. Although I'm sure the last one would have been a bit smoother with inherits too obviously.
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(http://i.imgur.com/eg6PgIv.png)
This is as far as the game will let me punch with my weight class. Any more and you'll start needing/seeing armored units all the time.
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Wow, I expected this hero challenge to be a bit easier, but not necessarily THAT easy. Although I'm sure the last one would have been a bit smoother with inherits too obviously.
It's stupid hard if you don't have the right units, sadly :(
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Yeah, fair. For what it's worth FCorrin nearly singlehandedly took on the whole thing with a little healing support and an archer to take out one of the pegasuses. Corrin Pivoted over them to block the anti-archer fighter and that was basically game.
Edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/XNvBzwK.jpg)
JFC LOOK AT ALL THOSE TIKIS.
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got michalis
taco meat beats the map
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It is complete. My ultimate Camilla. She can now protect all your Corrins.
(https://imgur.com/Z2wX3Pz.png)
Remember that she has an effective spd of 43 after darting blow and hone fliers :D
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3* Narcian took out 2/5 of the map.
Michalis is the biggest threat, but he was manageable after I removed the escorting sword flier first.
Edit: just blew through 100 orbs and got Minerva (and Raven).
(https://puu.sh/uXba8/e2f3679ea6.jpg)
This girl hits hard huh. I think I can complete the flyer training tower mission now.
Edit 2: posting images on phones comes out blurry for some reason
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(http://i.imgur.com/JpCsTwk.jpg)
Alriiiight, got a perfect run where I didn't fuck up and bring the wrong team in the last round this time.
(http://i.imgur.com/92fkPgN.jpg)
WOW. That bad, huh? I'll admit I was expecting a bit better. Well, fuck me I guess. That's all I can do.
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Your rank hasn't updated, it should be above 30k
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Oh right duh, forgot about that.
(http://i.imgur.com/PUmQhmK.jpg)
Muuuuch better.
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My mvps for the Michilas map goes to Priscilla and Azura because good god the bait was strong.
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You need someone to survive one of the draw back dudes plus Michalis unless you can kill the draw back dude on the retaliation. That's why I'm training up Narcian or Cherche for that.
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You need someone to survive one of the draw back dudes plus Michalis unless you can kill the draw back dude on the retaliation. That's why I'm training up Narcian or Cherche for that.
I baited some of the draw backs with Roy and he survived while Priscilla healed and Azura to repeat then had Camilla to mop up some of the lance users. It was awful though....
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Hinoka, Takumi, Lyn, Olivia was my victorious team here.
This strategy should be doable with any bow user with good attack, any blue flyer with Reposition, and any sword user that can take a hit from Michalis and kill him the following round.
Had Takumi take care of the right flyer, then Repositioned him with Hinoka out of the red cavalry's line of fire. Cavalry hits Hinoka, Michalis moves closer.
Next turn, had Takumi finish off the cavalry and moved Hinoka to safety. Danced Takumi out of the way and moved Lyn up to bait Michalis. Michalis hits Lyn, other flyer comes nearby.
Takumi melts the other flyer, Lyn finishes off Michalis. Lancer is basically a free kill; I pelted him with Takumi from behind the wall of mountains (using Reposition to fling him over).
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Takumi, Takumi, Takumi, Takumi was my victorious team here.
This strategy should be doable with any bow Takumi with good attack, any blue Takumi with Reposition, and any sword Takumi that can take a hit from Michalis and kill him the following round.
Had Takumi take care of the right flyer, then Repositioned him with Takumi out of the red cavalry's line of fire. Cavalry hits Takumi, Michalis moves closer.
Next turn, had Takumi finish off the cavalry and moved Takumi to safety. Danced Takumi out of the way and moved Takumi up to bait Michalis. Michalis hits Takumi, other flyer comes nearby.
Takumi melts the other flyer, Takumi finishes off Michalis. Lancer is basically a free kill; I pelted him with Takumi from behind the wall of mountains (using Reposition to fling him over).
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The moral of the story is
Ask for extra taco meat
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Wouldn't that pretty much work with any archer? It's not like the pegasuses are particularly durable.
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Yeah, I did mention that any archer with decent attack shouldn't have an issue there.
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That was more aimed at Chirei. :D
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Takumi isn't God anymore because you can put Close Encounter on any archer now
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Wouldn't that pretty much work with any archer? It's not like the pegasuses are particularly durable.
there are other archers???
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Takumi isn't God anymore because you can put Close Encounter on any archer now
there are other archers???
This pretty much. Takumi is the, the best archer in the game. He has the best combination of stats and the best combination of stats for his role: the "if you touch me I'm going to nuke your face off with my nuclear angst," "I'm going to nuke your team even if you don't touch me either" role. And he already has close counter so he doesn't need to eat anybody -- an op unit at that -- to get it. The only other archer that comes close is I would guess Jeorge who sacrifices a little of every stat for a small boost in res compared to Takumi, but that's like preference at that point.
e: to express my point I'm going to lay out stats. As everyone already knows, I run fliers, so it's kill or be killed. I've memorized Takumi's stats by heart, I can recite them backwards and forwards. Not even joking. I can tell what nature he is with one look through his stats.
But I'm rambling, anyway, oneshot or be oneshotted. To kill a neutral hp/def Takumi with a brave weapon with two hits requires 45 atk. To kill a +hp nature Takumi requires 47 atk. To kill a +def Takumi requires 49 atk. And I can only finally deal with any of the above Takumis with my +atk nature Hinoka with death blow 2. All this just for one dude guy. What the hell.
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Klein is pretty good I hear.
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So my next project that I'm planning on 5*ing,unless something else comes along before I get the feathers, is Olivia. Because I'm raising her up from 3* I have the opportunity to gather tons of SP, and I'm considering just overhauling most of her skillset because it's a bit underwhelming.
-Weapon: Might as well keep Silver Sword. I could swap for Ruby Sword or Armorslayer or something but I don't probably want her attacking too much anyway and they might impede her ability to kill squishy targets.
-Action: Pretty much has to stay as Dance, obviously.
-Critical Hit: I gave her Moonbow because it charges fast and she's probably not going to have the chance to use anything slower very often.
-Skill A: Currently empty. Should probably be a defensive ability, so I'm thinking +HP. Also could be Triangle Adept but I'm not sure what I gain by doing that.
-Skill B: Currently Knock Back, which frankly seems almost completely useless. Could change it to Drag Back, Quick Riposte to make her a bit less appealing to pick on, or maybe Wings Of Mercy or Escape Route.
-Skill C: Currently Hone Attack. One of the better abilities in the game obviously and one of the compelling reasons to use Olivia, but I already have a Hone Attack users on most of my teams (FCorrin) and am unsure whether it's worth running a second one over swapping this out for another Hone or Spur skill.
Anybody got any thoughts regarding this? Are there any skills I'm overlooking that you think work exceptionally well on squishy supports or Olivia specifically?
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It's shit like this. (http://i.imgur.com/8weuzpV.jpg)
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Oh my god I would love to play against that with MRobin.
I beat a triple Takumi team once (sans Robin but with my own Takumi) but the map was pretty favorable. Not sure I could handle the four-pack without Robin. Very doubtful.
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I had a triple Takumi team the map before that one.
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What's your arena score?
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After that 4 takumi map? Zero. Probably would've been doable if one of the takumis was't +10.
It was the seventh round of an undefeated run, too. (Apparently three takumis at once is my max with this setup)
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No I mean like, what's your current high score? What rank are you?
Jesus fucking christ, +10? That's awful. Well, sleep well knowing you didn't waste $800 like that guy did...
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4220 is my current offense score. Little handicapped due to dragging dead weight around (and my best run got ruined by a flock of Takumis).
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olivia
Thanks to your post I just learned about the way buffs stack which opens a whole new world of possibilities for me.
I'm surprised by how decently tanky olivia seems to be for a dancer, +hp seems to be a good choice for the A-passive.
I was thinking you may consider one of the seal skills for the B-passive, depending on what units are the more harder or annoying to deal with for your team. Since Olivia is pretty squishy, I'd imagine the AI would consider her a higher priority over your other units so you could hit that target with a pretty nasty debuff, which could mean the difference between a 2rko and a orko. If you don't have any problem units with your current team then escape route sounds nice for the same reason.
If you're still a little strapped for atk, then you could consider spur atk since it stacks with hone atk. It would be particularly effective with a dancer unit since most likely the unit you dance on would be staying in the same spot to attack the enemy again if you couldn't kill them last round.
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I put Fury 3 on Olivia and she was able to tank the red cav on Michalis Lunatic with 1 HP left as a 4*. Also does work in Arena if she's in a tight spot and the only choice is to bash the enemy.
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Seal skills feel a little underwhelming since they only activate after combat. Good for baiting but I don't know how much baiting Olivia should be doing. Depends on playstyle I guess, since my Olivia never sees combat.
If you're using desperation on any unit, wings of mercy dancer combos well with that.
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4220 is my current offense score. Little handicapped due to dragging dead weight around (and my best run got ruined by a flock of Takumis).
Wow, that's not far off from where I am and that isn't consistent with my results at all. Could just be RNG of course, but at this point the question is becoming more and more pressing: Does the game somehow cherry pick certain enemy units for certain players or teams somehow? Are you doing or being something that's causing you to see tons of Takumis while I see tons of Tikis and few Takumis?
Thanks to your post I just learned about the way buffs stack which opens a whole new world of possibilities for me.
I'm surprised by how decently tanky olivia seems to be for a dancer, +hp seems to be a good choice for the A-passive.
I was thinking you may consider one of the seal skills for the B-passive, depending on what units are the more harder or annoying to deal with for your team. Since Olivia is pretty squishy, I'd imagine the AI would consider her a higher priority over your other units so you could hit that target with a pretty nasty debuff, which could mean the difference between a 2rko and a orko. If you don't have any problem units with your current team then escape route sounds nice for the same reason.
If you're still a little strapped for atk, then you could consider spur atk since it stacks with hone atk. It would be particularly effective with a dancer unit since most likely the unit you dance on would be staying in the same spot to attack the enemy again if you couldn't kill them last round.
Is there a good 4* source of Spur Atk 3?
I put Fury 3 on Olivia and she was able to tank the red cav on Michalis Lunatic with 1 HP left as a 4*. Also does work in Arena if she's in a tight spot and the only choice is to bash the enemy.
Ooh, yeah, Fury makes sense. She's not a tank so she shouldn't be attacking or getting attacked more than a few times in a game, so the damage is negligible and the stat boosts should help a lot. Just a question of whether +HP is generally more useful.
Seal skills feel a little underwhelming since they only activate after combat. Good for baiting but I don't know how much baiting Olivia should be doing. Depends on playstyle I guess, since my Olivia never sees combat.
If you're using desperation on any unit, wings of mercy dancer combos well with that.
The thing about Seal skills is that Fire Emblem is a baiting kind of game. Seal offense makes sense on ranged units so they can't be countered as hard, and seal defense makes sense on things that'll be kiting and/or baiting. It's arguably not as useful as Spur or maybe Threaten, but I think it is pretty solid. Less so for a unit that shouldn't be seeing combat often though.
Wings Of Mercy does make sense. My Desperation unit is Lyn and honestly I'm probably not going to be using these two on the same team, but I think it make some sense just for utility. The problem is that I don't have any more disposable sources of it.
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Is there a good 4* source of Spur Atk 3?
Lilina
https://feheroes.wiki/Skill_Chains_4_Stars_List
fwiw, I'm in a similar arena score range and the most I've ever seen is two Takumis. I run into Tiki a lot (which I love, since I one-shot her every time) and Robin (which I hate since he's responsible for ruining most of my runs). Maybe I'll start keeping track.
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Ooh, yeah, Fury makes sense. She's not a tank so she shouldn't be attacking or getting attacked more than a few times in a game, so the damage is negligible and the stat boosts should help a lot. Just a question of whether +HP is generally more useful.
with Fury she can actually take people out so I think it's better, I don't think 2 extra "durability points" is going to matter since most anything can 2hk her
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Alright, time for round two of my PVP report. This is inclusive of my first 18 battles and now goes up to 38 total battles. Weirdly still have yet to see any teams running duplicates, so each of these entries appeared singly.
21/38: Tiki
13/38: MRobin
10/38: Camilla, Takumi
9/38: Effie, Lucina
7/38: Marth, Roy
6/38: Ephraim
5/38: Eirika, Kagero, Ninian, Nino, Nowi, Reinhardt, Sharena
4/38: Julia, Minerva, Raven
3/38: Fcorrin, Jeorge, Lissa, Olivia, Seliph, Tharja
2/38: Catria, Cordelia, Hawkeye, Lyn, Olwen, Ogma, Ryoma, Sakura
1/38: Abel, Anna, Azura, Beruka, Caida, Cecilia, Cherche, Fae, Felicia, Gunter, Hector, Hinoka, Lissa, MCorrin, Merric, Niles, Peri, Rys, Setsuna, Sheena
No appearances: Everyone else
Notable points of interest include Hector and Azura in the one appearance tier which I assume has to do with their rarity, Marth and Roy sharing a tier which I thought was cute, and the fact that MRobin is higher tier than Takumi, suggesting to me that people are countering him right out of usage to some degree. Eirika and Ephraim are one point off of sharing a tier too, that would have been extra symmetrical and fun.
I'm not okay with Camilla sharing a tier with that terrible awful boy Takumi. Somebody use her more and get her outta there!
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I'm not okay with Camilla sharing a tier with that terrible awful boy Takumi. Somebody use her more and get her outta there!
takumi is not good enough for dragon boobs so he has to settle for regular people boobs
edit: also consider that these are the stats for YOUR game and YOUR arena rating. this means that this is an OTP for your FEH universe
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>+10 Takumi on a team of 4 Takumi
that's 14 Takumi. and that'd disgusting.
the whale game is real
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takumi is not good enough for dragon boobs so he has to settle for regular people boobs
edit: also consider that these are the stats for YOUR game and YOUR arena rating. this means that this is an OTP for your FEH universe
Camilla has dragon boobs! She rides a dragon! That counts!
Does this mean Marth x Roy (plausible) and Effie x Lucina (sounds amazing but unlikely) are on too then? Maybe the relationship is not one of love but hate? Maybe Camilla is the one destined to slay Takumi once and for all.
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She rides a Takumi! That counts!
this is all I registered
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>+10 Takumi on a team of 4 Takumi
that's 14 Takumi. and that'd disgusting.
the whale game is real
I was disgusted for many reasons!
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related to ccool
[nsfw]http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2639941[/nsfw]
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Oh I've seen that. You think I don't have a saved search for Camilla on Danbooru? I have a saved search for Camilla on Danbooru.
Related:
[nsfw]http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2064898[/nsfw]
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Oh I've seen that. You think I don't have a saved search for Camilla on Danbooru? I have a saved search for Camilla on Danbooru.
Related:
[nsfw]http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2064898[/nsfw]
doesn't that mean takumi wins because he can attack at range
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No, it means he's already doomed in the picture you linked because clearly he's already been lured into a trap.
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So Fury Olivia is surprisingly amazing. I'm obviously looking at her with low standards because vanilla 3* Olivia is so ridiculously weak, but 4*, Fury-and-Moonbow-toting Olivia is kind of a menace honestly. She's not *that* much weaker than a real sword character (37 attack and speed at level 40) and leveling her to 40 was amazingly painless.
As a 5* I imagine she'll definitely be able to take out some squishy and/or green enemies without much trouble. So yeah, I definitely recommend Fury on dancers. Azura in particular might be nuts with it.
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I'm slowly nearing completion on my mono-fliers team. How useful does a 3rd reposition user sound? The problem with fliers is that a lot of times you're backed into a corner for trying to isolate an enemy bow user (read: takumi) into a vulnerable position, and because you're all melee units, not all units can see action. I'm considering either reposition or rally defense, since I decided to cut out Caeda for two goad flier users in Palla and my iote's shield tank Subaki (who also has ignis and can benefit from more def).
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Incoming April Updates, in order of importance:
1) Pre-battle position change
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C76BS8yVMAA2NsE.jpg)
2) Max stamina and refills increased to 99 from 50
3) Increased XP gain potential for lower-rarity cards
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Thank god for pre-battle position change. Would have been nice in a lot of situations already.
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Oh yes pre-battle positioning, that'll be a godsend.
And to answer my own question: no. Reposition is freaking awesome. I'm 15 sp away from putting it on Palla and I'll have 3 reposition users and like 50% more mobility.
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Should be announcing a new banner sometime today/tomorrow, as well.
Place your bets :V
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I'm just hoping it comes quick. I got antsy and did a 5-unit pull and got nothing but garbage and dupes. (
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I'm just hoping it comes quick. I got antsy and did a 5-unit pull and got nothing but garbage and dupes. (
Same here....
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7_Kb3mVwAAoS2k.jpg)
Guess who's coming over for Easter
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Doesn't look like Panne and Yarne at all, so it's a missed opportunity in any case.
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"Hmm, this banner is still up and I've invested a bunch of stones into it already to absolutely no returns whatsoever and I have a full 20 again, so I might as well do a round of pulls before my increased odds reset."
Ninth Subaki, 4* Olivia days after I upgraded an Olivia to 4*, 4* Nino (only non-dupe of the bunch), dupe 3* garbage, dupe 3* garbage
Yaaaay...
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No new banner stuff makes me sad.
The new arena scoring rules also depress me, too. Making how many allies you've merged on to one unit is pushing this even harder in favor of the whales. 😒
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7_Kb3mVwAAoS2k.jpg)
Guess who's coming over for Easter
Bunnies ♡
Also... why is Michilias such an asshole like bruh you got one more time to sass me and I'm locking yah ass in the closet while having your ankles strung high as a Christmas goose. >_>;;
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The new arena scoring rules also depress me, too. Making how many allies you've merged on to one unit is pushing this even harder in favor of the whales. 😒
It already does this. Each +1 level are two guaranteed extra stats. We have no idea how this new version scales, so it's far too soon to pass judgment given how good their PR is compared to other mobage.
Currently if you run into a 40+10 without having any of your own or a hard counter, you're going to lose anyway, ruining your arena run. It's better that it gets scaled so that people like us don't see them at all.
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Dang, Julia really goofs my team up bad. Camilla can handle her for sure, but getting her into position, even with Wings Of Mercy, is tricky sometimes.
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Julia melts anything with low res, and I think the only mage that can ORKO her is Tharja (and I've survived two hits from Tharja before, so maybe only Tharja with boosts). Having 38 res is really quite nice.
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Might be contingent on whether Julia has an active stat boost from a Spur or Hone Speed or Attack or something, since Tharja's weapon does bonus damage to enemies with stat boosts.
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Might be contingent on whether Julia has an active stat boost from a Spur or Hone Speed or Attack or something, since Tharja's weapon does bonus damage to enemies with stat boosts.
No? It's the exact opposite. All -blade tomes add stat boosts the WIELDER has to damage.
julia is weak to maids anyway
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Wait, is that how it works. Fair enough. That's... weird design. Maybe that's the deciding factor then.
Julia is weak to Niles anyway. He's my type.
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Yeah, it's the same as how Nino's and Odin's tomes work. It's part of why they're so strong at one-shotting (not Odin because he sucks), since you can buff them to unbelievable heights, and even moreso if you give Odin's tome to someone like Ursula and stack cavalry buffs.
Also, incoming healer meta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8k9ZjGOYDc
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Yeah, I have to be really careful around anything physical as far as Julia goes. She can soak a hit from Takumi, but only one - and he either needs to be -spd or neutral spd when Julia has a spd boost.
The good news is that if Takumi initiates with only one attack, she ORKOs him with Quick Riposte.
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You know, healers with passive damage skills make a lot of sense...
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You know, healers with passive damage skills make a lot of sense...
Passive damage like poison strike or savage blow?
If so, unfortunately they can't use them (along with something like half the passive skills in FEH). I learned that the hard way; Lucius with poison strike 3 would almost be usable.
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They can learn Pain, that's pretty close.
I wasn't watching the video very closely but it looked like one of those Sakuras had Savage Blow somehow. Must've been something else I guess.
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(https://i.redd.it/udwiproqw7oy.png)
:getdown:
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(https://i.redd.it/udwiproqw7oy.png)
:getdown:
ok its a shit banner move on
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What. Shit. Fuck. Okay, I regret spending literally any stones ever. I need that Camilla...
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Like... are they different at all, looks aside? Do they offer anything the standard units don't? Because I already have Chrom, Lucina, and Camilla...
Fuck, I don't even care, I'll roll for bunnies. I don't really take this game seriously anyway.
Passive damage like poison strike or savage blow?
If so, unfortunately they can't use them (along with something like half the passive skills in FEH). I learned that the hard way; Lucius with poison strike 3 would almost be usable.
They can learn Pain, that's pretty close.
I wasn't watching the video very closely but it looked like one of those Sakuras had Savage Blow somehow. Must've been something else I guess.
One of those was DEFINITELY Savage Blow, unless there's a skill identical to it that I don't know about, because it did 7 splash damage, just like Savage Blow 3 does.
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I can't really see Lucina or Chrom looking any better/worse with bunny ears, so I'll pass : P
Xander probably looks hilarious, though.
And then Camilla :o :o :o :o
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Yeah, I just checked the video. You can see from the status that two of them have savage blow. I guess the wiki's wrong and you can use it on healers?
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(http://i.imgur.com/xdvJt5k.png)
Confirmed. Though I won't sac Camilla to do that D:
even if lissa really is best girl
EDIT: also:
(http://i.imgur.com/Vi2o6PL.png)
Apparently with Inherits being a thing, Takumi has fallen to A rank and of all archers, we're approaching a Setsuna archer meta? Huh. (The list explains to give her Brave Bow+ and Life and Death.)
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I feel like that tier list is an extreme work in progress. I think the reason Setsuna is so high is because of her ridiculous speed, but I'm skeptical about what a brave bow Setsuna can do compared to say Taco, who has a bit higher attack. Although iirc Takumi may have weaker defenses.
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Possibly, yes-- but the potential for Setsuna to be at least on Takumi's level (with some work) makes me want to build her up (so I'm working on Hana and Gordin right now as well.)
One thing that does bother me a little about the Inheritance system is how very same-y you can make most units now. What used to make units unique, you can now pass on to other units to make them, stats aside, pretty much identical. It's nice in the sense that you aren't exactly fucked if you don't have XYZ unit but do have the inheritance pieces for a different unit, but kinda disappointing in the sense that there really isn't anything in particular that makes a unit of any kind special.
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It's nice in the sense that you aren't exactly fucked if you don't have XYZ unit but do have the inheritance pieces for a different unit, but kinda disappointing in the sense that there really isn't anything in particular that makes a unit of any kind special.
This is a big problem I have with Fire Emblem Awakening (although with reclassing instead of inheritance). Fates solves it with unique abilities and more limited reclass mechanics, but that's not relevant here obviously.
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needs healer with bifrost staff, just endlessly revive all your mans
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New banner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYdr0UhJXBY
I need more orbs
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God dammit, my first question about this game day one was "I wonder if we'll ever get an alternate Camilla who uses tomes instead of axes" and there she is and HOLY FUCKING SHIT SHE LOOKS GOOD I need this but I will not get this.
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My current more-or-less completed mono-fliers team. All that's left is to upgrade Subaki and Palla into silver lance+ and killing edge+ respectively but I don't have any of those 5* units. I mean, besides promoting both of them themselves into 5* units, but I'm not swimming in feathers here.
(http://imgur.com/3V0xkOE.png)
Three reposition users is quite awesome. You have so much mobility, you could even move any of your units into enemy range all the way across the map vertically on the first turn if you wanted to. Having 2 goad fliers is also fun since it adds another layer of depth to strategic positioning. Subaki takes care of my previous problem of not having much of any good way to deal with physically tanky units by being a tank himself and having seal def 3, allowing whatever else ally to swoop in and take the kill. But his -res nature makes him extremely squishy against magic damage. I'm questioning whether Palla's wings of mercy is really doing much but I'll have to experiment more with that.
This team does pretty well and several runs in arena (after getting a decent score with another) showed me that this team has difficulty when there starts being 2 or more ranged units on the enemy team. Bow units are an obvious hazard, but my slower units Hinoka and Subaki are both squishy on res and so not being able to take care of all the ranged units in range leaves a very serious threat of losing a unit the opponent's turn. About the only defensive option is leaving the goad flier units within 2 spaces so they don't get doubled at least. Since the team is all melee units, there's the issue that you can't always get to every unit and yet also stay out of the enemy range. Having three reposition users mitigates that to a great extent, being able to deploy your units and pull them back into safety very well, but the seams start showing when going up against 3 or even 2 ranged units at times (depending on the map). The other great weakness are the maps that have those stupid pillars that my fliers that can move over mountains for some reason can't fly over. The greatest strength of fliers is their ability to ignore most terrain obstacles and not being able to capitalize on that strength gives them another handicap against a tough enemy team.
But all in all, it's a lot of fun to use so if anyone ever gets the opportunity to make it then I wouldn't hesitate to suggest trying it out.
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Ahahaha, holy shit. I'm so in with the springfest stuff. Tome Lucina/Camilla look like a ton of fun to play.
Edit: God, Setsuna is actually pretty damn good. So is Hana, though she's the raw definition of a glass cannon.
Meanwhile, Gordin is bad. He's REALLY, REALLY bad. The Brave Bow actually makes him worse. Getting this piece of garbage to 5* just so I have Brave Bow+ to feed off to speed demon Setsuna is going to make me cry. How the fuck am I supposed to get all of those feathers? I don't think I'll get Life and Death 3 from Hana though; 2 should be plenty for Setsuna.
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New banner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYdr0UhJXBY
I need more orbs
I'M SAVING MY ORBS DAMN IT!
Also this video is so accurate of summoning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlsZMei5PUU
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4,000 feathers vanish into the aether. Gordin and Sharena become 4*.
:colonveeplusalpha:
How the fuck does this game actually expect you to actually 5* anything? Are you just, like, not allowed to rank up anything else, ever? Because that's absolutely, undeniably, unforgivably asinine.
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Because selling dupes gets you a lot of feathers, you get dupes for pulling frequently, you pull frequently by spending lots of orbs
You see where this is going
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Because selling dupes gets you a lot of feathers, you get dupes for pulling frequently, you pull frequently by spending lots of orbs
You see where this is going
I hate mobile games. Why do I keep playing them? :colonveeplusalpha:
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I'm about to get 60k feathers (already used the first 40k), and comparatively speaking I think it's sped up a decent amount, especially with the initial 10k feather giveaway+1k arena quests.
No, I haven't sold more than 3 cards.
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I've only used 22k feathers, and 20k was to get something to 5* so I could drop Death Blow 3 on Reinhardt. I have a little over 40k at present, I think?
I know I'm saving 20k feathers for Xander when we get him. Other than that, my 4* options don't seem good enough to upgrade.
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I've only used 22k feathers, and 20k was to get something to 5* so I could drop Death Blow 3 on Reinhardt. I have a little over 40k at present, I think?
I know I'm saving 20k feathers for Xander when we get him. Other than that, my 4* options don't seem good enough to upgrade.
To be honest that might be my option too... I'll hold off giving out anymore feathers....
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I was wondering where you all got so many feathers given I have only 28k at the moment but then I actually bothered calculating where I used all my feathers.
20k Robin
2,220 Olivia
200 Olivia
2,200 Sharena
2,200 Lissa
200 x 13 to 3* Alfonse, Anna, Hana, Draug, Raigh, Donnel, Subaki, Narcian, Cecilia, Virion, Matthew, Felicia, and Wrys
So I guess I've used ~30k feathers, which puts me in the same ballpark. Those little upgrades do add up quite a bit.
I've been waiting on other feathering options until optimized builds come out after the April update.
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I've spent something like 45-50k feathers on upgrades and have about 15k right now. They're definitely slow to gather, no doubt about it, but not painfully so IMO.
I guess a lot of that maybe comes down to the fact that I'm more or less willing to settle for less on my inherits and am mostly just spending them on upgrading things that I want to use at 5*. If I needed to 5* multiple things to get abilities to put on a thing that also needed to be 5* then that would be pretty rough.
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Holy f the f gronblade easter camilla, I've been dying for a mage flier forever. Too bad I'm not getting her.
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I don't have any of those 4 eater specials in their original form. I still want the old Lucina. :fail:
Nice to see Effie finally grab top tier status though!
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(http://i.imgur.com/c6McilL.jpg)
"improve"
gj bruh you now have 1 spd
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gj bruh you now have 1 spd
he can double people with -4 spd at least
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and get doubled by literally anyone
do you know how sad it is when low level clerics double you
and kill you
this child is trash and i thank god i've almost got him at level 20 so i never have to use him again-- just sob, pay 20k feathers, and feed him to Setsuna for Brave Bow+ funtimes. (who also needs to be 5*'d).
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What's the ideal boon for brave bow setsuna?
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and get doubled by literally anyone
do you know how sad it is when low level clerics double you
and kill you
this child is trash and i thank god i've almost got him at level 20 so i never have to use him again-- just sob, pay 20k feathers, and feed him to Setsuna for Brave Bow+ funtimes. (who also needs to be 5*'d).
If you have the SP, you can just buy the BB+ for her regardless of rarity. You will still want to 5* for stats later though.
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If you have the SP, you can just buy the BB+ for her regardless of rarity. You will still want to 5* for stats later though.
I think the 20k is for the gordin that's getting grain-fed for slaughter atm
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Yeah, for now. But yes, Setsuna too because stats.
I decided I won't be 5*ing Hana for Life and Death 3 though-- 2 seems balanced enough. Setsuna's already squishy enough as it is, I don't need to make her squishier. (So I may consider Fury instead. Hmm.)
What's the ideal boon for brave bow setsuna?
I'm not entirely sure, but since she's so ridiculously fast and has pretty good atk (and, while low, her defenses are balanced with higher than average RES for archers)-- so she can survive the drop in SPD that the Brave Bow gives and still quad-hit and not be doubled quite so often. As for inheritances, I haven't totally decided outside of Brave Bow+ and Life and Death/Fury for A. Vantage would probably be pretty great for B. Maybe Savage Blow for C, to soften up other units? I'm not super sure yet. As for Special... probably Moonbow, for near-guaranteed activation per combat? Sacred Cowl would work nicely too, or maybe Miracle to make up for her squishiness. As for assist, probably a movement one that helps her get closer/farther away.
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Fury seems like one of the better abilities in the game, yeah. I can't think of a reason why it shouldn't work similarly well, but it has the upside of dealing damage to you to allow your guys to heal and charge their support abilities or use Ardent Sacrifice to get down into Desperation range or whatever.
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You can get Fury 3 off Hinata 4*, which is nice.
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What's the ideal boon for brave bow setsuna?
Seems +spd setsuna is what's causing all the rage and her spot on the tier list along with her nickname quadsuna.
e: +atk seems to work too. You lose out on doubling some of the faster units in exchange for dealing more damage. Seems like preference and what buffs your teammates can carry or something, I don't have one so can't suggest one or the other.
If you have the SP, you can just buy the BB+ for her regardless of rarity. You will still want to 5* for stats later though.
buying weapons?
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The more I think about it, the better Fury sounds for Setsuna, as it gets her closer to Vantage range. And it doesn't have the downside of massive defense drops.
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Do iiiiiit! That set sounds badass. Maybe plan on packing a buddy with Desperation and Reciprocal Aid too if you can find something synergistic with an appropriate HP number to trigger after Setsuna attacks a few times.
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buying weapons?
is that not what it is when you get weapons with sp
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Oh that. always thought of it as learning a new weapon.
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I ran into the goddess of destruction superboss in the 10th stratum
(http://i.imgur.com/t4QvH9L.jpg)
I had trouble
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like 55 stones spent, and not even a 5* to show for it
in before someone rolls a focus unit on their first selection
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Oh the banner's up?
Well I somehow managed to get this kid
(https://imgur.com/7WK7X9T.png)
but you ain't the one I wantt!!!
I'm rolling camilla if it kills me.
Time to go grind out those training quest stones...
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FUCK.
UM.
GUYS.
(http://i.imgur.com/lb0d8F2.jpg)
Second pull. My pull karma paid off?!
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FUCK.
UM.
GUYS.
Second pull. My pull karma paid off?!
Dahhh.....
You know, unlike pad I'm starting to wonder if the long term benefits are actually good for these seasonal units. They're going to eventually release more (regular) flying mages right? If you're not a whale, you'd be hitting a pretty tall wall as far as merging allies goes with these. Maybe I shouldn't pull...
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(http://i.imgur.com/aoA2pA6.png)
20 orbs in. I'll take it.
Camilla looks to be a flying julia statwise. Decent enough I guess and even better with inheritance, but I used up my luck on this banner already so back to saving orbs.
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Dahhh.....
You know, unlike pad I'm starting to wonder if the long term benefits are actually good for these seasonal units. They're going to eventually release more (regular) flying mages right? If you're not a whale, you'd be hitting a pretty tall wall as far as merging allies goes with these. Maybe I shouldn't pull...
For what it's worth her abilities are really mediocre. That can be adjusted with inheritance obviously and her stats seem great, but her super special event ability (boosting number of badges gained from the training tower) is beyond useless,and getting SP for her is going to be a chore.
Hmm, what abilities should I inherit onto her?
As for flying mages, I can only assume we will be getting more, yes. They're not common at all in Fire Emblem, in fact Camilla is probably one of the few (only?) notable ones, but they do kind of exist.
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Picked up Easter Lucina after 31 orbs. I heard that the chance for a 5 star on blue/green is just over 10%, so was only rolling those.
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I want that Spring Xander due to the badge pick up ability like hell I hope they keep them in the summon machine when it's over.
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Alright so this is my tentative plan for Bunny Camilla's abilities:
Weapon: Leaving Green Egg+, for flavor and because I don't want to 5* something else just for its weapon. The spell is actually pretty bad since it's a nonbo with one of her other abilities.
Critical hit: Glimmer I guess? I want something that charges relatively fast. Could maybe use Draconic Aura instead because this Camilla does have huge attack.
Skill: Might as well use Rally Attack because I don't really use anything else that has it.
A ability: Leaving Defiant Speed for no better reason than that I don't want to pay extra SP for something else. It's not awful, just asynergistic with her weapon.
B ability: Probably Draw Back to enable some hit-and-run kiting tactics. Seens handy with a mobile ranged attacker.
C ability: Threaten Resist to help her hit even harder and synergize with the rest of my team, which is already mostly magic damage. I'd have to inherit Ursula to get this though and I'm actively using my 4* of her right now.
I want that Spring Xander due to the badge pick up ability like hell I hope they keep them in the summon machine when it's over.
What on Earth do you need more badges for? Are you finding yourself running out of them? I can't figure out why that ability would be good at all personally. Unlike Chrom's obviously amazing experience boost ability.
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I also wound up with Spring Camilla.
ccool is right, the egg sucks ass as a weapon and really limits her usability. Her skill set requires a lot of investment, but she is a completely unique unit right now - and I have Hinoka - so she's likely worth using. Plus, you know, smug fanservice bunnygirl.
Did you get a Michalis? If you slap Iote's Shield on her she's a natural Takumi slayer with that high def.
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What on Earth do you need more badges for? Are you finding yourself running out of them? I can't figure out why that ability would be good at all personally. Unlike Chrom's obviously amazing experience boost ability.
Because I don't have a XANDER yet is my real excuse... and plus I rather stock up on badges for units in the future.
Edit: Also that exp boost is for axe users only.
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Apparently Spring Chrom's ability is for crystals, not badges - it's a mistranslation. Bonus crystals are definitely more useful.
Because I don't have a XANDER yet is my real excuse...
One more month! You can hold out!
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called it, you all have too much luck :(
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I also wound up with Spring Camilla.
ccool is right, the egg sucks ass as a weapon and really limits her usability. Her skill set requires a lot of investment, but she is a completely unique unit right now - and I have Hinoka - so she's likely worth using. Plus, you know, smug fanservice bunnygirl.
Did you get a Michalis? If you slap Iote's Shield on her she's a natural Takumi slayer with that high def.
I do have Michalis. That's not a bad idea. I guess I can hold off on devouring him until next week to see who the featured arena units are, but if the Easter crew is in there, which they should be, then I don't need him.
I think mine might be -Def, because her defense is only decent. Still, I imagine she can fuck up Takumi real bad. Not that I don't already have someone who does that.
Because I don't have a XANDER yet is my real excuse... and plus I rather stock up on badges for units in the future.
Edit: Also that exp boost is for axe users only.
I know it's for axes only, but that's still much more useful than more badges.
called it, you all have too much luck :(
I invoke the Mostly Bad Luck But The Game Clearly Wants Camilla To Be With Me clause.
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I know it's for axes only, but that's still much more useful than more badges.
That is true I can really use it for Michalis and my other non-used axe users.
UGH... BUT THEN I'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR FE: SoV too... UUUUUUUGH.
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so not only are these new units mixed in with the regular machine, they suck out of the gate as well
staying far as hell away from this one
Because I don't have a XANDER yet is my real excuse... and plus I rather stock up on badges for units in the future.
his hero battle is in like a week and you clearly haven't been playing long enough to realize that badges are like fucking worthless right now
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so not only are these new units mixed in with the regular machine, they suck out of the gate as well
staying far as hell away from this one
but chirei, bunny suits
that honestly probably matters more than anything else in a unit!
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so not only are these new units mixed in with the regular machine, they suck out of the gate as well
staying far as hell away from this one
his hero battle is in like a week and you clearly haven't been playing long enough to realize that badges are like fucking worthless right now
Um... no you got it mixed up his is early May not April. You're talking about Navarre who's coming early April while Xander's map is early May. :derp:
And I have been playing enough it's just that I want to keep some on hand.
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but chirei, bunny suits
that honestly probably matters more than anything else in a unit!
Pretty much this.... Have you SEEN Camilla's smug-ass portrait? Have you SEEN Camilla's smug-ass portait?
And a unique kind of unit is pretty interesting as well, if maybe not the best use of stones.
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Pretty much this.... Have you SEEN Camilla's smug-ass portrait? Have you SEEN Camilla's smug-ass portait?
to be fair
her face looks like she got hit by a smudge tool, jesus, whoever is doing the fates work needs to go the way of I-IV
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to be fair
her face looks like she got hit by a smudge tool, jesus, whoever is doing the fates work needs to go the way of I-IV
is it that same person that did the art for regular camilla? The one that stuck a cheap gradient tool on her breasts and made them look like plastic? I'd hate to complain, but this gets me every single time I look at that portrait.
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ok so i got 5 orbs from grinding and
(http://i.imgur.com/QtBweQs.png)
are you fucking kidding me this is the third set in a row where i've got only one focus color
(http://i.imgur.com/VYPUnzl.png)
...ah
Well, you were the one I wanted least, but I'll take it.
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Um... no you got it mixed up his is early May not April. You're talking about Navarre who's coming early April while Xander's map is early May. :derp:
one week one month same thing
Pretty much this.... Have you SEEN Camilla's smug-ass portrait? Have you SEEN Camilla's smug-ass portait?
well one you can't see the asses of 95% of the people in fire emblem because they face forward
and two I judge people not by the thiccness of their ass but by the greatness of their soul
Well, you were the one I wanted least, but I'll take it.
he is the most handsome anyway
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one week one month same thing
Don't have to yell... and well I'm already ready. :(
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Don't have to yell... and well I'm already ready. :(
i'm not yelling i'm being frank
no one would dare want to see me actually yelling
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well one you can't see the asses of 95% of the people in fire emblem because they face forward
and two I judge people not by the thiccness of their ass but by the greatness of their soul
Some of her poses have some very prominent side-ass.
10/10 onee-sama soul, 10/10 butt.
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10/10 onee-sama soul, 10/10 butt.
can't be 10/10 if you only live to pump corrin's shotgun
edit: okay, maybe that's a bit much. only jakob actually lives like that
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Camilla has other siblings and pet mercenaries going on. What's Felicia's other thing? General cartoonish incompetence? Identifying when it is that we've got trouble?
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well one you can't see the asses of 95% of the people in fire emblem because they face forward
don't worry I've got you covered
the reward for best ass of fe:h goes to
2nd place: Catria (https://feheroes.wiki/images/a/a4/Full_Portrait_Catria.png)
1st place: Easter Xander (https://feheroes.wiki/images/6/62/Full_Injured_Xander_%28Spring_Festival%29.png)
well that was an odd experience
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i'm not yelling i'm being frank
no one would dare want to see me actually yelling
Ah... sorry for the misunderstanding, well to be honest... I'm still debating on whether to pull the old orb casino trick again.
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Identifying when it is that we've got trouble?
all bros should be equipped with this function, otherwise we would all be assassinated in our sleep by ass assassins
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Remember what happened when someone tried to assassinate Camilla? Not trouble, that's for sure.
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Remember what happened when someone tried to assassinate Camilla? Not trouble, that's for sure.
her breasts acted as a handy shield
a useful function, that.
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Remember what happened when someone tried to assassinate Camilla? Not trouble, that's for sure.
her breasts acted as a handy shield
a useful function, that.
But this is why you need someone to spot you and warn you of the trouble beforehand. Using your boobs to block attacks repeatedly will cause them to lose durability faster, and eventually they won't protect you anymore. Boobs must be taken care of.
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her breasts acted as a handy shield
a useful function, that.
See also: that comic I posted s couple of days ago.
But this is why you need someone to spot you and warn you of the trouble beforehand. Using your boobs to block attacks repeatedly will cause them to lose durability faster, and eventually they won't protect you anymore. Boobs must be taken care of.
Camilla lives in a world where there is no weapon durability! A world where boobs are eternal and Bifrost is fleeting.
Using boobs more=gaining retainers more.
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Camilla lives in a world where there is no weapon durability! A world where boobs are eternal and Bifrost is fleeting.
boobs not weapons until they can shoot outwards like missiles
bifrost is not unique to felicia, and need not be used if everyone knows of incoming trouble in the first place
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(http://i.imgur.com/UQL0VSm.jpg)
crying
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Christhammer, aside from I guess squeezing more 5*s in there that's basically a god pull.
Not a Subaki in sight...
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Am I seeing this right, that's your second 5* Catria even though we've never had a banner for her?
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Am I seeing this right, that's your second 5* Catria even though we've never had a banner for her?
Naw, my first Catria was 4*.
Fun fact, actually. The first Catria was +HP -Res. This one's +Res -HP. :fail:
Julia is +Atk -Def though! :dragonforce:
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(http://i.imgur.com/6cnKGLi.jpg)
Level maxed. Seems that mine is - HP, +Speed. Not great, but could be worse.
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Got a Camilla... the normal one.
And then a Leo, so that's cool.
Also a 3* Setsuna that I can upgrade.
...and then Bunny Lucina.
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So, Bunnycina is my first time playing with a fast mage and wow, it's great. I really need to roll an Odin to give her all his stuff, or maybe a Nino to play with since she has a similar stat spread.
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Oh yeah, also got 3* Nino and Odin. Those were my other two rolls out of the 6 I did. So ultimately it was a 100% win.
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Time for the next round of commandercool's PVP report. Up to 68 matches tracked so far, STILL no repeat heroes so each of these was one per team.
33/68: Tiki
16/68: Lucina, MRobin
15/68: Camilla, Takumi
13/68: Effie
10/68: Marth
9/68: Roy
8/68: Nowi, Sharena
7/68: Ephraim, Julia, Kagero, Ninian, Nino, Reinhardt
6/68: Eirika, Tharja
5/68: Azura, Catria, Jeorge, Olivia, Raven, Seliph
4/68: Hawkeye, Lissa, Lyn, Minerva, Sheena
3/68: Abel, Cordelia, Eldigan, FCorrin, Linde, MCorrin, Ryoma, Sakura
2/68: Anna, Beruka, Caida, Clarine, Gordin, Hinoka, Klein, Olwen, Ogma, Priscilla
1/68: Azama, Cecilia, Cherche, Chrom, Fae, Felicia, Gunter, Hector, Jaffar, Maria, Merric, Niles, Peri, Rys, Sanaki, Setsuna, Subaki
0/68: The rest
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15/68: Camilla, Takumi
this is what happens when no one warns you about trouble
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Which tiki is showing up so much? I don't see either one ever showing up that much
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this is what happens when no one warns you about trouble
I wasn't gonna say anything about that... YOU GUYS DIDN'T ALL PLAY CAMILLA MORE LIKE I TOLD YOU TO! We have to save her from that horrible awful boy!
Which tiki is showing up so much? I don't see either one ever showing up that much
Adult, although I virtually guarantee that at least a few of those are misreported and are actually Young Tiki (or "tiki"). So her actual numbers probably aren't QUITE that high. I thought their portraits were more distinct and just realized right before posting this that they're basically the same, so I'll be keeping a closer eye on them in the future. That said, a vast vast majority were the adult one. I'm going to guess misreported tikis probably account for 5-6 of those.
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I wasn't gonna say anything about that... YOU GUYS DIDN'T ALL PLAY CAMILLA MORE LIKE I TOLD YOU TO! We have to save her from that horrible awful boy!
i dont have camilla but i have taco meat, i can play him more
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While the Spring units do seem kinda lackluster overall, I am sensing a little viability in them as the "battle clerics" I had mentioned previously before. Since they recover 4 every combat and aren't objectively terrible fighters, that recovery can add up-- especially if you pair that up with Renewal 3 so you're gaining back a ton of life. Give them Wings of Mercy or whatever and Reciprocal Aid/Ardent Sacrifice and you can have a fairly decent healer that can hold their own in a fight.
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Hmm, yeah, that'd be interesting. It would be slow as hell and the actual healing wouldn't be huge, but at least in Camilla's case her offensive presence would make up for how much clunkier that would be than using a normal cleric. Could also help her active her Defiant Speed, which could be cool. I know most people are just planning to overwrite that since her speed sucks, but mine is +speed so I'm considering giving her Threaten Speed to try to speed control enemies. Hmm. I'll have to think about that one. Defiant Speed/Brash Assault/Threaten Speed with Reciprocal Aid or something seems like it might be neat. The downside is that it kind of requires an ally to get beaten up badly yet survive before Cam is working at full strength, but the payoff would be pretty decent.
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I think just having gronnblade+ with someone else with honeflier would be better. That's about 35 speed and if you have threaten speed you should be able to double most people.
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That's definitely true, but that would cost me 40k feathers (I'm assuming Hone Fliers is 5* only, but I don't know because I'm pretty sure I don't even own anyone who has it) and would replace the neat cosmetic spell Easter Cam has.
Pretty sure it's better, but that's a crazy investment for what's ultimately a pretty subpar nature. At least this way I sort of take advantage of her - HP nature instead of being burdened by it. Not sure if it would work, but I like the idea.
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That's definitely true, but that would cost me 40k feathers (I'm assuming Hone Fliers is 5* only, but I don't know because I'm pretty sure I don't even own anyone who has it) and would replace the neat cosmetic spell Easter Cam has.
Pretty sure it's better, but that's a crazy investment for what's ultimately a pretty subpar nature. At least this way I sort of take advantage of her - HP nature instead of being burdened by it. Not sure if it would work, but I like the idea.
A quick Google reveals that the only unit with Hone Fliers is Hinoka - who is only available in the gacha at 5 star.
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Mmmkay, so it wouldn't cost me 40k feathers, but it would require me to pull a specific non-banner 5*. I'll definitely definitely keep it in mind if I ever end up with a Hinoka.
Edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/h04CVrh.jpg)
"I only love Easter Selena, and you don't have bunny ears!"
Well, back to square two on the Camilla theme team, but I still don't have Beruka much less the feathers to max everyone out. I'll find more Selenas I'm sure.
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-cue Mario Party chance time theme-
It's CHANCE TIME WITH SPRING, I'm your host MewMewHeart or DuckiePlucky either one.
I have 218 orbs... which means I'll be documenting my pulls/rolls like last time, so let's begin.
Also just a heads up I do have a 3.50% as of current from some failed pulls.
Roll #1: 2 grays, 2 reds, and 1 blue.
Result: dupe 4* Clarine, dupe 3* Clarine, dupe 3* Draug, dupe 3* Raigh, and 4* EFFIE ( Which I'll immediately train after my pull fest. :toot:
Comment: Now all I need is Elise!
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Roll #2: 3 blues, 1 green, and 1 red.
Result: dupe 4* Cordelia, A FUCKING 5* PERI :matsuriscowl: , dupe 3* Shanna, dupe 3* Henry, dupe 3* Cherche.
Comment: DO YOU THINK I WANT BOBO THE CLOWN AS A 5* FUCK YOU GAME!!!!
Edit: UM Wow this 5* Peri has 16 hp, 20 att, and 10 spd, 5 def, and 6 spd.... (I might have to look up what kind I just gotten.)
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Roll #3: 4 BLUES!?! and 1 green
Result: 5* SPRING XANDER (Partially Xander and retainer set complete due to not real Xander) :* , dupe 4* Robin, dupe 3* Est, dupe 5* Peri ( GODDAMN IT ), and dupe 4* Merric.
Comment: Ok that 5 star Peri was bait, but oh boy did I get my Spring Xander.~
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Roll #4: 2 Greens, 2 blues, and 1 gray.
Result: dupe 3* Cherche, dupe 4* Odin, WOW MY FUCKING LUCK! 5* SPRING CAMILLA GET, dupe 3* Gwendolyn, and dupe 3* Felicia.
Comment: MY LUCK COULDN'T BE THIS GOOD RIGHT???
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Roll #5: 2 reds and 3 grays.
Result: dupe 3* Virion, dupe 4* Lon'qu, dupe 3* Wrys, dupe 3* Eliwood, and dupe 3* Serra.
Comment: Just a few stepping stones to another 5 star.
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Roll #6: 3 reds, 1 blue, and 1 gray.
Result: dupe 3* Lon'qu, dupe 3* Hana, dupe 4* Niles, dupe 4* Lon'qu, and dupe 4* Est.
Comment: TO THE GRINDER WITH YE ALL!!!!
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Roll #7: 2 blues, 1 red, 1 green, and 1 gray.
Result: dupe 3* Azama, dupe 4* Nino, dupe 3* Palla, dupe 3* Florina, and dupe 4* Sully.
Comment: At least I have a 3.75% right? Right? RIGHT!?! :colonveeplusalpha:
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Roll #8: 1 Red, 2 grays, and 2 greens.
Result: dupe 4* Virion, dupe 4* Cain, dupe 3* Gaius, dupe 3* Beruka, and 5* Spring Chrom (Kinda Predicted it.)
Comment: WHY CAN'T I HAVE MY TAKUMI OR ELISE WHEN MY 5* CHANCES ARE HIGH, GAME!?! Oh well I'll take the Spring Chrom. :derp:
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Time to add in 75 more orbs to my 58, bring it up to 133 orbs.
Roll #9: 4 REDS!?! and 1 green.
Result: dupe 4* Draug, dupe 3* Adult Tiki, dupe 4* Frederick, dupe 3* Raigh, dupe 3* Laslow/Indigo.
Comment: Called it all dupes.
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Roll #10: 3 grays, 1 blue, and 1 green.
Result: dupe 3* Gauis, dupe 4* Azama, dupe 3* M.Robin, dupe 4* Merric, and dupe 3* Virion.
Comment: More mod fodder for everyone.
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Roll #11: 2 grays, 1 red, 1 blue, and 1 green.
Result: dupe 3* Clarine, 5* Klein (NOT TAKUMI but I will take it if it makes my 4* Clarine happy.), dupe 3* Stahl, dupe 5* Raven, and dupe 3* Florina.
Comment: Wow a bit late, but I'll accept Klein, but not that 5* dupe Raven though...
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Roll #12: 2 grays, 1 red, 1 blue, and 1 green. (AGAIN)
Result: dupe 3* Gaius, dupe 4* Merric, MOTHERING FUCKING 5* LITTLE TIKI -huggles-, dupe 5* Klein, AND A DUPE 5* SPRING XANDER KILL ME PLEASE!!!!! :colonveeplusalpha:
Comment: I DIDN'T CALL FOR THE DUPE 5 SQUAD PLEASE GO BACK HOME EXCEPT FOR TINY TIKI!!!! :flamingv:
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Roll #13: 2 grays and 3 reds.
Result: dupe 4* Fir, ANOTHER dupe 4* Fir, dupe 4* Niles, dupe 3* Palla, and dupe 3* Setsuna.
Comment: M-O-D F-O-D-D-E-R.
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LAST ROLL!
Roll #14: 2 blues, 1 gray, 1 red, and 1 green.
Result: 5* Spring Lucina (Spring Gacha completed), dupe 3* Corrin, dupe 3* Barst, dupe 3* Lon'qu, dupe 4* Klein.
Comment: Well at least I completed the Spring gacha now I have 13 orbs left.
I can truly say that I'm happy with my rolls.~
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Damn, dude. Got the full set.
5* Klein is a monster too. I know some people rate him higher than Takumi. If one of your 5* Kleins has +atk, even better.
Keep the 5* Raven, that Brave Axe is going to do wonders once we get an axe cavalry worth using.
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Damn, dude. Got the full set.
5* Klein is a monster too. I know some people rate him higher than Takumi. If one of your 5* Kleins has +atk, even better.
Keep the 5* Raven, that Brave Axe is going to do wonders once we get an axe cavalry worth using.
I fed the dupes to their perspective originals and I think I did get a +atk and hp Klein.
He's 18 HP/ 18 ATK/ 2 SPD (That might bite me in the butt)/ 5 DEF/ 5 RES (This is after I fed the dupe Kleins because I had 2).
LOL TBH I wasn't expecting to get the fullset myself, so it makes me happy.
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I fed the dupes to their perspective originals
dupe 4* Lon'qu
dupe 3* Lon'qu
Comment: TO THE GRINDER WITH YE ALL!!!!
dupe 3* Lon'qu
there goes all that vantage
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there goes all that vantage
I can always get another because they all come to me. :derp:
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I got this guy as a 3*, and got him all the way to 5*. AZAMA FAVORITE HEALER CONFIRMED
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I got this guy as a 3*, and got him all the way to 5*. AZAMA FAVORITE HEALER CONFIRMED
OH COME ON!!!
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http://imgur.com/a/ai5FR
gurl
...spoilers tho
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Holy shit all of these damn arena matches have Olivia with hard hitter characters I've almost lost so many matches because of her.
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Holy shit all of these damn arena matches have Olivia with hard hitter characters I've almost lost so many matches because of her.
use bait if possible, dancers can and will go for the attack if someone is in range (not possible on every map)
or just try to split up their forces and have someone take a hit from the smaller, more manageable detachment (example: felicia vs mages)
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Yeah, you can usually learn to mitigate dancers. Tricking them into getting their friends to suicide into units who beat them is the best way around them, but it becomes less possible the longer the round goes because they become able to pick targets the closer they get to you.
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Dancers are really only super awful on limited-mobility maps, like volcano and two bridges.
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And they're trivial on what's already the easiest PVP map, Mountain With Split Starting Areas.
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Someone has to make standardized names for these maps. Calling them exactly what they are makes them all sound like ancient Kung Fu techniques.
"You are ready. Prepare yourself. I shall teach you, 'Mountain with Split Starting Areas!'"
...maybe that's a bad analogy. Just saying that it sounds kinda silly and we need real names.
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(http://i.imgur.com/VkgLwTO.jpg)
Look guys, I made Camilla into a shitty MRobin! I have no idea if this will work (the -HP really stings) but if I can shoehorn more Camillas into my team I'm gonna try. And I have tons of Subakis to spare...
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use bait if possible, dancers can and will go for the attack if someone is in range (not possible on every map)
or just try to split up their forces and have someone take a hit from the smaller, more manageable detachment (example: felicia vs mages)
That what I had to do ALL OF MY MATCHES and I usually end up being left with Priscilla and Camilla to clean up the trash.
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That what I had to do ALL OF MY MATCHES and I usually end up being left with Priscilla and Camilla to clean up the trash.
you might just have a bad composition against common teams right now
using a healer is probably part of the issue because in randomized, uncontrolled fights they offer the least advantage in this game, never use healers because they suck right now
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I mean, that depends a tiny bit on how your team is structured. I feel like FCorrin is very synergistic with healers since she bogs down the enemy team so much with debuffs that the added longevity make a huge difference. Most of the time that's definitely not the case, and I still don't use a healer with my FCorrin, but sometimes I use a Lyn with Ardent Sacrifice and it can be pretty swingy in some matches.
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I mean, that depends a tiny bit on how your team is structured. I feel like FCorrin is very synergistic with healers since she bogs down the enemy team so much with debuffs that the added longevity make a huge difference. Most of the time that's definitely not the case, and I still don't use a healer with my FCorrin, but sometimes I use a Lyn with Ardent Sacrifice and it can be pretty swingy in some matches.
It's really the unfortunate side effect of the game having 100% hit rates no matter what, super low movement, jacked up damage mods and the classic FE AI strategy of just ramming into you as fast and hard as possible. If three dudes are lined up and ready to advance on you, and you only have two and a dancer who can barely kill two of them, you're going to lose a guy probably. You just need as many able attackers as possible.
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I wonder if we'll ever see more Runesword/Nosferatu-esque effects? There are some in Sol, Absorb, and a few spells with flat healing after hit (like SCamilla's), but a full-on Nosferatu mage would be interesting.
Of course no matter what kind of tank you have you're limited by the fact that you can only hit close or at range, which can lead to weird situations where you can bottleneck things or completely get mobbed.
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you might just have a bad composition against common teams right now
using a healer is probably part of the issue because in randomized, uncontrolled fights they offer the least advantage in this game, never use healers because they suck right now
My Priscilla has been SAVING MY ASS ALOT.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8YD_BEUAAILg7P.jpg)
Arena bonus units for the next two weeks.
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aw yes I love mediocre units
I guess I can carry a level 1 Alphonse around... Maybe.
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My Priscilla has been SAVING MY ASS ALOT.
But you might not need as much ass saving wit h another attacker on your team...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8YD_BEUAAILg7P.jpg)
Arena bonus units for the next two weeks.
Yaaay this'll be the only time I'll have ever had the option of playing four 5*s!
Also where is Michalis? I just ate mine so I sure hope he doesn't turn up later.
Edit: Nevermind, I missed him in the upper right there somehow.
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I will admit that out of 4 single pulls out of the rem, I did not expect only 1 of them to offer a green unit. And even then, only 1. What. The. Heck. If assuming each color has equal probability of appearing in one of the five slots, there's a legit 1% chance of this happening to me.
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Is it just me or have crystals become really un-useful since inheritance? They effectively reduce the amount of SP you gain by skipping killing a bunch of enemies, which seems like something you really wouldn't want to do at this point.
Meanwhile, Iote's Shield/Quick Riposte SCamilla has been performing surprisingly well in PVP. Well enough that I don't think I have a problem replacing MRobin with her most of the time, although I definitely lose to 3+ Takumis almost all the time now I think, so that's not great.
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My Priscilla has been SAVING MY ASS ALOT.
But you might not need as much ass saving wit h another attacker on your team...
Pretty much this. Currently the game is very leaning towards having as many one-round kills happen as possible, which means there is no chance to heal. Can't even activate any balms unless you can heal someone for 1HP or have the healer survive combat (haha...)
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Is it just me or have crystals become really un-useful since inheritance? They effectively reduce the amount of SP you gain by skipping killing a bunch of enemies, which seems like something you really wouldn't want to do at this point.
I use crystals to get a character from 0 to 20, and then 39 to 40. I don't think the extra SP is necessarily worth it from a time investment standpoint, though it is almost certainly more efficient if you're going to be inheriting a lot of skills.
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Tuesday I'm going to 5* my Olivia and she's going on my main team. Right now I have her set up like this:
Weapon: Silver Sword
Action: Dance
Critical hit: Moonbow
A ability: Fury
B ability: ???
C ability: Tentatively Spur Def
I'm still not sure what's going in slot B, but I like the idea of Desperation. Olivia with Fury is surprisingly hard to one-shot and hots surprisingly hard, so this should let me bait and one-shot a lot of things including Takumi, Julia and (I think) Hector.
Anybody got any better ideas? What do dancers usually run in that slot?
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Wings of Mercy for B is almost definitely the right choice there.
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Ooh right right. Yeah, I didn't have one of those before, but I recently pulled another source of it. That makes a lot of sense. Although I find my Wings Of Mercy Camilla unable to use it by a couple of HP quit often when I wish I had it. Then again she needs to teleport adjacent to enemies whereas Olivia doesn't, so yeah, that makes sense.
FCorrin is extremely hard to one-shot too (unless you're Julia) so she tends to hang around at low HP a lot. Unfortunately a neutral attack Lucina misses knocking her down to 40% by a few HP the way I have her right now, so I may need to cut her +HP A skill. Not sure what I would replace it with, and it does save my ass at times, but it might be worth picking something else for use with teams that have Wings Of Mercy 2 users.
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I'm still not sure what's going in slot B, but I like the idea of Desperation. Olivia with Fury is surprisingly hard to one-shot and hots surprisingly hard, so this should let me bait and one-shot a lot of things including Takumi, Julia and (I think) Hector.
Desp creates a possibility where you can purposely let her get hit and turn her into a ORKO unit. She will almost definitely outspeed most units, so it will usually be two instant hits.
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If you're using her as bait with fury, wouldn't escape route be preferable over wings of mercy?
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I don't think using her as bait is necessarily plan A, since she's hard to one-shot but extremely easy to two-shot so I don't really WANT her in combat. Also, the only spare Escape Route I have is only Escape Route 1. Which might be okay with her since she ends up at 1 HP fairly often, but I don't know. Honestly wouldn't be hard to also staple that on there and give it a test run. That's a pretty marginal amount of SP all things considered.
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Ooh, new voting gauntlet is wyvern riders vs pegasus knights. Camilla will probably actually win this. Plus, a banner with Hinoka means I have at least a tiny chance to get Hone Fliers
to cannibalize onto another unit.
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Pretty much this. Currently the game is very leaning towards having as many one-round kills happen as possible, which means there is no chance to heal. Can't even activate any balms unless you can heal someone for 1HP or have the healer survive combat (haha...)
I have rehablitate with imbue on Priscilla, but to be honest I do have other attackers on my team.
Edit: OOOOOH that's what is going on and why there's a pegasus and wyvern rider gacha machine that makes sense.
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I have rehablitate with imbue on Priscilla, but to be honest I do have other attackers on my team.
Well yeah, I don't think anyone was assuming you didn't have other attackers. It's just that four attackers is often much much better than three.
Who's on your team? I'm not necessarily of the opinion that healers aren't viable at all, I think it just takes a real specific composition.
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Well yeah, I don't think anyone was assuming you didn't have other attackers. It's just that four attackers is often much much better than three.
Who's on your team? I'm not necessarily of the opinion that healers aren't viable at all, I think it just takes a real specific composition.
Lyn or Roy, Camilla, Priscilla, and FRobin
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That's actually exactly my team (if you have Lyn on it) except I have FCorrin instead of Priscilla. If I was to use a healer it would generally be to help FCorrin since she's one of if not the most consistent tanks in the game, and you are lacking her.
There's definitely some merit to having a healer with Lyn too. She's hard to one-shot but easy to two-shot, so healers can really keep her rolling while letting her charge Gale Force and generally leaving her at low enough health to trigger her abilities if she takes hits every turn.
That said, I no longer run a healer with Lyn or FCorrin because as well as they work together I'd rather just run more hard counters to units I would otherwise struggle with.
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That's actually exactly my team (if you have Lyn on it) except I have FCorrin instead of Priscilla. If I was to use a healer it would generally be to help FCorrin since she's one of if not the most consistent tanks in the game, and you are lacking her.
There's definitely some merit to having a healer with Lyn too. She's hard to one-shot but easy to two-shot, so healers can really keep her rolling while letting her charge Gale Force and generally leaving her at low enough health to trigger her abilities if she takes hits every turn.
That said, I no longer run a healer with Lyn or FCorrin because as well as they work together I'd rather just run more hard counters to units I would otherwise struggle with.
I do have FCorrin and rather she's level 32, it's just most of my matches have been blue units with a mix of dance and red. However I might get FCorrin some fun too.
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Blergh. 24 hours took me from ~21k to 33k in Arena rank, and I can't really do any better than 4386 when toting Lucius's useless ass around.
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Are the starting bonus +2 daily orbs over for good?
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They've expired twice now. I suspect they'll be back again; without moderately average login bonuses any F2P game loses its fanbase quickly.
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I imagine it's like PAD where there will be occasional short dry periods. It'll be back. Might not always be two stones exactly, but I expect there'll be nice login bonuses more than 50% of the time.
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Got the protag trio to 4* out of boredom today. Might actually take Sharena to 5*, since I don't have an infantry lancer at 5* yet.
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That's honestly probably a decent investment. And Sharena is pretty high on my PVP usage list. I've seen Anna a few times and Alfonse basically never, but Sharena gets used relatively often.
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That's honestly probably a decent investment. And Sharena is pretty high on my PVP usage list. I've seen Anna a few times and Alfonse basically never, but Sharena gets used relatively often.
sharena has atk/def/speed buffs on her, so of course most people would want to
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They've expired twice now. I suspect they'll be back again; without moderately average login bonuses any F2P game loses its fanbase quickly.
I'm expecting an Echoes tie-in sooner or later. Echoes leak just came out last night btw, people are already datamining the game two weeks before release, rip.
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I found Navarre to be the most forgiving hero battle yet. Plenty of room to move around and nothing super sadistic about it. The boss is a tough cookie but he's not hard to tank or kite. What were yoir experiences with him? Maybe my team just matched up exceptionally well against his.
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Reinhardt, Abel, Fae, Olivia obliterated Navarre's squad.
Did a 20-pull on the Navarre banner since I wanted a Kagero. Got a (4*) Kagero (+RES which is nice for my purposes) and a... 5* Sophia? I guess I can run Sad Mage Girls With Light Purple Hair Squad with her and Julia.
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Navarre map was probably really easy for people with good blues/ranged. I used MRobin to basically solo the map - he killed the ninjas with Olivia support, Buncina one-rounded Navarre without any help (but MRobin would have probably tanked him anyway), and then Olivia surprisingly took out the axe fighter. My last unit didn't do anything except take out the healer.
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I found Navarre to be the most forgiving hero battle yet. Plenty of room to move around and nothing super sadistic about it. The boss is a tough cookie but he's not hard to tank or kite. What were yoir experiences with him? Maybe my team just matched up exceptionally well against his.
Camilla, FCorrin, Lyn, and Priscilla made good work of the map with FCorrin being MVP. Although props for Priscilla to weakening Navarre for my FCorrin to take the shot while Camilla and Lyn tanked the ninjas. Lunatic version is EVIL THOUGH.
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Lunatic version is EVIL THOUGH.
What part of it specifically you think?
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(http://i.imgur.com/THOUtrW.jpg)
Those are some good-ass stats for a dancer. Fury is goooood.
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Fury Olivia don't fuck around. I see you decided to go with Wings of Mercy after all, then.
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Like, no shit, she beats a lot of stuff one-on-one. I had her kill a Lucina solo earlier. I don't know if it was an underleveled one or a bad nature or what, but she does NOT fuck around.
Still not sure how I feel about Wings Of Mercy, but I figured I'd give it a shot. Hasn't come up yet in the six battles I've played with her with this setup, but I haven't been going way out of my way to play into it either. And Quick Riposte 1 is a cheap investment if I decide I don't like Wings Of Mercy at all. Although she's so fast that I'm not sure it would make a difference, especially since I have multiple speed debuffs on my team. Escape Route is also probably worth testing and the only one I have access to is Escape Route 1, but that might be enough with this build.
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What part of it specifically you think?
Everything although I didn't do it with max leveled people ehehehehe... :V
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(http://i.imgur.com/THOUtrW.jpg)
Those are some good-ass stats for a dancer. Fury is goooood.
Wow, Olivia is surprisingly tanky with Fury, and she's lightning fast too (well, looks like yours is +SPD which explains that).
Speaking of speed, I was looking at a fun chart of hero ordered by neutral speed: http://feheroes.wiki/Speed_Chart
That gap between the slowest unit and the second slowest tier is just cruel. Doubled by Hector, even.
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Dump stats are a thing for a reason. Less speed that's not gonna let you do anything anyway means MORE ATTACK!
Kind of shocked Florina is that slow. I guess they gotta distinguish the various pegasi somehow, but that's really slow for what she does in her original appearance, isn't it?
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That gap between the slowest unit and the second slowest tier is just cruel. Doubled by Hector, even.
Sophia is widely regarded as one of the worst, if not the worst playable character in the entire franchise - but who can blame her? She's like an anemic half-dragon girl.
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Is there much of an upside to Glimmer over Draconic Aura? I have Glimmer on SCamilla and I'm starting to question why. The only times it ever really seems like it adds more damage are when I have weapon advantage, and if I do I'm probably going to win. Maybe it helps in the MRobin matchup? Although I have normal Camilla to gobble him up so I don't know that I particularly care about that. Might just be better off with Moonbow. Or maybe Bonfire.
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Glimmer is apparently a straight downgrade from daura most of the time due to how damage calculations work.
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I don't think I even have an extra source of Dragon Aura without investing feathers, but I should definitely replace Glimmer. Too bad I can't cash the SP I spent on it back out. Just not sure if Dragon Aura or Bonfire is better to replace it with, and Moonbow is an even more unclear comparison.
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Flier voting gauntlet has started and holy shit TEAM HINOKA GETTING REKT'D BY TEAM CAMILLA... not surprised although I went with team Hinoka.
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Everyone's gonna get rolled by Camilla. She's the Lucina of this event. It's not a fair fight at all. Fortunately you can set things up to get just about the same number of feathers out of losses as wins since you'll tend to rank higher within the armies.
Unless he has a big fanbase I don't know about then I feel real bad for Subaki. He's uh quite an underdog.
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Everyone's gonna get rolled by Camilla. She's the Lucina of this event. It's not a fair fight at all.
if you're not shopping at belk(a) you're not my friend
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Ugh no thanks, I get enough of Rei in PAD and she's bad there too.
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I joined Subaki because the only male option
He's actually edging out over Beruka right now. But Beruka is just Camila's shadow...
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I joined Subaki because the only male option
He's actually edging out over Beruka right now. But Beruka is just Camila's shadow...
Exactly (TBH when I first saw Beruka on Birthright route I thought she was a he until well... I had to spoil myself on the wiki.) but, yeah really... it's that bad.
@commandercool I like Camilla don't get me wrong, but Hinoka's personality really made me orbit to her more than Camilla both great, but I like Hinoka's more.
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I'm finally starting to get enough SP oj some of the units I've been working on to finish them off. Ended up putting Ignis on FCorrin and dang, she went from great to amazing.
Just debating now if I want to out Triangle Mastery on her to make her matchups against Falchion users and Tikis even better, but probably not since she's a key part of how I beat Hector without losing units and I don't think that would work anymore if I did that.
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I'm finally starting to get enough SP oj some of the units I've been working on to finish them off. Ended up putting Ignis on FCorrin and dang, she went from great to amazing.
Just debating now if I want to out Triangle Mastery on her to make her matchups against Falchion users and Tikis even better, but probably not since she's a key part of how I beat Hector without losing units and I don't think that would work anymore if I did that.
It wouldn't... given slayer effects and all come into play.
HOLY HELL I joined team Camilla and WHAT THE FUCK I'M SEEING SO MANY 40+10s, KAGEROS, AND MEIMEIS (Takumi) ESPECIALLY IN THE VOTING GAUNTLET... LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!?!
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I mean, she still beats them absolutely no matter what one-on-one and almost always one-on-two regardless of dragon slayer, but taking as little damage as possible would be nice.
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As much as I'm glad that were randomly getting 10 stones out of nowhere for no reason, it's kind of sad that there's such a lack of content atm that this is about the only way of getting more. Besides killing 20 units everyday but that's not content.
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As much as I'm glad that were randomly getting 10 stones out of nowhere for no reason, it's kind of sad that there's such a lack of content atm that this is about the only way of getting more. Besides killing 20 units everyday but that's not content.
I wish for more on the main story to be honest I mean that cliffhanger is not doing any justice at all.
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Used the stones to try fish out camilla again but pulled a mrobin out of one of the sets that had no greens. Three stars, but his pull thing had an animation for it. What was that, who gets these? Not even marth had one. I'm guessing it's for the recent protagonists only, like maybe fcorrin had one maybe?
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As much as I'm glad that were randomly getting 10 stones out of nowhere for no reason, it's kind of sad that there's such a lack of content atm that this is about the only way of getting more. Besides killing 20 units everyday but that's not content.
There is a reason. FEH has official streams in Japan, and they did a quiz thing for the JP audience, and every question was answered correctly.. Unlike Gungho though, they globalized the rewards for everyone.
It really blows my mind that they have this high-grade PR but GH doesn't.
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There is a reason. FEH has official streams in Japan, and they did a quiz thing for the JP audience, and every question was answered correctly.. Unlike Gungho though, they globalized the rewards for everyone.
It really blows my mind that they have this high-grade PR but GH doesn't.
OH WOW THAT MAKES SENSE! Why I got those random gems and stuff.
@Mea Marth has an animation summon one... I mean I have him, but he's 4*
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I'm seriously considering dropping this game due to how painfully slow it is. Like, I get that it's just starting off, and it takes a while for mobage to take off (god, look how long it took pad) but this game is skimpy on the content and heavy on the grind and I simply don't have the patience for it anymore.
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Alright, time for my next PVP frequency list. Tiki is being nerfed slightly this time since I realized I hadn't been dividing her properly between adult and young before. However it'll be a slight nerf since a VAST majority of her appearances since then have been Young Tiki, who I'll be referring to as tiki. I'm going to use the proportion of Tiki vs tiki in my last sample size to split her previous recorded numbers appropriately between her two forms. This update is almost the same sample size as all of my previous updates combined (my last list included 68 rounds and this one adds 52 more, for a total of 120) so those numbers should be fair accurate.
51/120: tiki
32/120: Lucina
29/120: Takumi
27/120: Effie
22/120: Camilla
21/120: MRobin
15/120: Marth
14/120: Ephraim, Julia, Nino, Nowi
13/120: Eirika, Ninian
12/120: Roy
11/120: Sharena
10/120: Azura, Olivia
9/120: Kagero
8/120: Lyn, Minerva, Reinhardt, Sheena
7/120: Hector, Jeorge, MCorrin, Ryoma, Seliph, Tharja
6/120: Catria, Eldigan, Lissa
5/120: Merric, Priscilla, Raven
4/120: Abel, Caida, Cordelia, Hawkeye, Klein, Lilina, Linde, Sakura, Tiki
3/120: Anna, Fae, FCorrin, Hinoka, Kagero, Peri
2/120: Beruka, Chrom, Clarine, Elise, Gordin, Gunter, Jaffar, Maria, Niles, Olwen, Ogma
1/120: Azama, Cain, Cecilia, Cherche, Felicia, Hanna, Lucius, Narcian, Odin, Rys, Sanaki, SChrom, Setsuna, Subaki, Virion
Biggest gain: tiki (as usual) with +21. She did lose a bit of ground overall, but she's still the clear frontrunner.
Newcomers to the list: Cain, Elise, Hanna, Karel, Lucius, Narcian, Odin, Spring Chrom, and Virion
Weird coincidences: Olivia and Azura in the same bracket. No Ninian though.
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I had a small epiphany and decided to try out drag back on hinoka's B-passive slot. Formerly it was quick riposte just to stick something there since I didn't have any better ideas to try out. Quick riposte was a somewhat good idea on paper, if you can counter attack and land all four hits, that's theoretically a full special charge right there, but in practice, there really isn't a whole lot of units that can withstand four jabs from her lance. Taking out does lose you out on those otkos on some bulky red sword lords like marth but it's not too missing.
I haven't yet tested it extensively, but drag back is working pretty well. I still don't have the easter camilla and so was still plagued with the ranged units problem. Drag back allows a heavy hitter to orko an enemy and then retreat back a space, who can then be further pulled back using any of my other two reposition units. As a hit-and-run strategy, it works pretty well when you've got your units positioned well and on a map that doesn't hamper it. It'll probably work a lot better once the pre-battle positioning patch is released. Currently, the worst maps for this team are the ones where the two teams are too close together. There isn't enough time or space for baiting and maneuvering.
Then I faced a team with two takumis and I noticed another potential problem in how I don't have a way of dealing with two takumis on demand atm. I'm going to have to figure that one out.
e: also, camilla isn't really pulling her weight much at the moment. She doesn't have reposition (leaving the unit paired with her less mobile), and her attack isn't that special without buffs. She's amazing once desperation kicks in, but that takes some setup. Most of the time, she sits behind the lines. That being the case, I'm considering either trying out another unit in her place, or swapping out her savage blow for something more supportive.
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Friendly reminder - we're having a "permadeath" event sooner or later, where if your unit dies during the event you can't use it in event-related activities anymore. As a result, I'd try to get the 4* units you have lying around to 40 if you aren't already doing so.
We should also be getting an announcement of the Shadows of Valentia tie-in banner in the next couple days.
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I had a small epiphany and decided to try out drag back on hinoka's B-passive slot. Formerly it was quick riposte just to stick something there since I didn't have any better ideas to try out. Quick riposte was a somewhat good idea on paper, if you can counter attack and land all four hits, that's theoretically a full special charge right there, but in practice, there really isn't a whole lot of units that can withstand four jabs from her lance. Taking out does lose you out on those otkos on some bulky red sword lords like marth but it's not too missing.
I haven't yet tested it extensively, but drag back is working pretty well. I still don't have the easter camilla and so was still plagued with the ranged units problem. Drag back allows a heavy hitter to orko an enemy and then retreat back a space, who can then be further pulled back using any of my other two reposition units. As a hit-and-run strategy, it works pretty well when you've got your units positioned well and on a map that doesn't hamper it. It'll probably work a lot better once the pre-battle positioning patch is released. Currently, the worst maps for this team are the ones where the two teams are too close together. There isn't enough time or space for baiting and maneuvering.
Then I faced a team with two takumis and I noticed another potential problem in how I don't have a way of dealing with two takumis on demand atm. I'm going to have to figure that one out.
e: also, camilla isn't really pulling her weight much at the moment. She doesn't have reposition (leaving the unit paired with her less mobile), and her attack isn't that special without buffs. She's amazing once desperation kicks in, but that takes some setup. Most of the time, she sits behind the lines. That being the case, I'm considering either trying out another unit in her place, or swapping out her savage blow for something more supportive.
I've strongly considered Drag Back on Camilla, it's great when it's great, but my main concern is that it will move her in situations where I don't want her to be moved, like away from my Spur Def Olivia or Fortify Atk FCorrin. Let me know what you find if you end up trying it.
As for Camilla not always pulling her weight, that's definitely true. I've said this before, but Camilla's role isn't really as a main tentpole. There are too many things that she just can't scratch. Her job is to counter certain types of units, especially magic units, which she generally does very effective. I recommend putting Glacier on her if you can for boosted damage output regardless of the situation, but really she's best suited to take on certain unit types that might otherwise give your team trouble.
As for Savage Blow, it's cool, but it probably isn't really great on her because she can't really sustain herself for very long if she's diving into the middle of the enemy team, which is where it's best used. I've considered replacing it with Spur Spd or something on my Camilla and only haven't done it because I already used all of my SP on Glacier and I like having Savage Blow for thematic reasons.
And of course replacing her entirely makes a lot of sense if you just aren't finding yourself struggling with the units she counters (Julia, MRobin, Reinhardt).
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It really blows my mind that they have this high-grade PR but GH doesn't.
I don't think I'd call 'random shit out of nowhere' high quality PR, actually.
Like 90% of the english fanbase probably doesn't know what happened, and if anything they'd see it as a replacement for the daily orbs at best. Hell, it's STILL a terrible info bias to the JP users, as they were even the first to know what skill inherit even was going to be (and probably the only ones who could've stopped that fuck up).
Edit: etc, etc, also include lambasting perma-death as another method of making you regret chippering too many units after making an economy based on that
feh sux etc, new thread
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Friendly reminder - we're having a "permadeath" event sooner or later, where if your unit dies during the event you can't use it in event-related activities anymore. As a result, I'd try to get the 4* units you have lying around to 40 if you aren't already doing so.
Edit: etc, etc, also include lambasting perma-death as another method of making you regret chippering too many units after making an economy based on that
it's not permadeath, it's really more akin to the ironman style of fire emblem play
if a unit gets killed you don't lose them, they just have to sit out for the rest of the event, which is odd because this is the first time they're officially supporting this mode (its fan-made)
Like 90% of the english fanbase probably doesn't know what happened, and if anything they'd see it as a replacement for the daily orbs at best. Hell, it's STILL a terrible info bias to the JP users, as they were even the first to know what skill inherit even was going to be (and probably the only ones who could've stopped that fuck up).
iirc only the quiz event has been unannounced so far, everything else showed up on the nintendo website/ingame bulletin boards/phone notification the day after (due to timezone differences), and they're still updating the april dev blog, so I wouldn't say it's as high as 90%
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Iron Man mode sounds fun as hell honestly. Count me in. My Camilla hasn't died yet during this voting gauntlet! It's weighted toward whales of course, as ever, but I think it might be fun depending on how it's implemented.
I can make a new thread in a while, but if anyone else wants to do it feel free.