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Title: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tengukami on May 21, 2013, 11:39:29 PM
(Old thread here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14013.0.html).)

(http://i.imgur.com/BPcYZl.jpg)

(Go Forza! (https://twitter.com/NForza26/status/285297010142240769))

Also:

(http://i.imgur.com/N0svNza.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/vpNcYtK.jpg)

Olderer thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13556.0.html).

Official site (http://www.tasofro.net/touhou135/index.html).

Video of some spellcards! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DD_Ltzijy8)

The demo for Hopeless Masquerade, the 13.5th Touhou game is, is finally released! There are three demo characters available, which are Reimu, Marisa, and Ichirin. I think the game is really fun, and has some very interesting mechanics. One thing I found interesting was the popularity meter, being that the game is all about the popularity of religions, and how the person with the highest percent of popularity wins if the timer run out. I can't wait to see who else gets in the game, and the fact that Shou and Byakuren are both not in the backround of the Palaquin ship stage when everyone else is makes me somewhat suspicious...

UPDATED! (CAW! CAW!)

Since the above was written, we now know the following characters, in addition to Reimu, Marisa and Ichirin, are also playable:

Byakuren Hijiri
Mononobe no Futo
Toyosatomimi no Miko
Nitori Kawashiro
Koishi Komeiji (!!!)

It also appears that Ten Desires Extra boss Mamizou Futatsuiwa will also be appearing in this game, although she has not been officially announced at the time of this writing.

Who is the mysterious shadow girl on the cover? Will it be a new character? Or someone we've seen before?

Follow this thread ... and FIND OUT!
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 21, 2013, 11:50:54 PM
The last line of your post makes me think of an ending to an old anime. Sorta like Dragon Ball Z
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: iK on May 21, 2013, 11:53:58 PM
NEXT TIME ON SHRINEMAIDEN FORUMS, A NEW MYSTERIOUS IDENTITY HAUNTS THE SPECULATION THREAD.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tengukami on May 21, 2013, 11:54:41 PM
FUUUUUUSION-HA!
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 21, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
To immediately ruin/kickstart the new thread, here's what is written in the winter demo:
bigname_01reimu
bigname_02marisa
bigname_03ichirin
bigname_04hijiri
bigname_05futo
bigname_06miko
bigname_07nitori
bigname_08koishi
bigname_09mamizou
bigname_10boss

There's also one artist Chabo on twitter, who animated a returning character, yet was surprised to see her not being revealed.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tengukami on May 21, 2013, 11:56:19 PM
To immediately ruin/kickstart the new thread, here's what is written in the winter demo:
bigname_01reimu
bigname_02marisa
bigname_03ichirin
bigname_04hijiri
bigname_05futo
bigname_06miko
bigname_07nitori
bigname_08koishi
bigname_09mamizou
bigname_10boss

There's also one Chabo, who animated a returning character, yet was surprised to see her not being revealed.

Oh, this doesn't ruin anything. Updating now!
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 21, 2013, 11:57:47 PM
NEXT TIME ON SHRINEMAIDEN FORUMS, A NEW MYSTERIOUS IDENTITY HAUNTS THE SPECULATION THREAD.

IT'S RIN SATSUKI THREAD OVER
(http://i.imgur.com/Lj7UsNt.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/bdd1QO6.jpg)
Can you not see all the similarities? They're like 10000000% similarly designed.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kingault on May 21, 2013, 11:59:28 PM
I'm telling you, the final boss is the midboss spirit from 10D!
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Gpop on May 22, 2013, 12:01:56 AM
I'm only in here for Koishi :V
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Star King on May 22, 2013, 12:04:03 AM
How do you quote something from a locked thread lol

Quote from: Polaris
Mamizou being the penultimate boss for the new character like Yukari was to Suika is pretty convincing. Her transformation/disguises gimmick is a nice lead-in to the new character's presumed use of masks as per a masquerade, so I think this is a very likely idea.

What's more

-Mamizou is the Extra boss for the game before, and Yukari is the Extra boss for the game before (well Phantasm but you know what I mean)
-It's been said she likes to hang around the Forest of Magic. A decent number of the last few missing characters could fit there as an audience, or at a generic forest (Alice, Rumia, Mystia, Hina, maybe Yuuka?)
-Would end up with 10 characters total, which would be the same as IaMP (plus 10 seems like a lot more "complete" than 9, us humans like our multiples of 5/double digits huh)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: _cf on May 22, 2013, 12:20:06 AM
There's also one artist Chabo on twitter, who animated a returning character, yet was surprised to see her not being revealed.
Wait, wat?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Limian on May 22, 2013, 12:25:11 AM
The characters who haven't been featured in the background yet (aside from Mamizou) are:
Rumia - Daiyousei - Meiling - Koakuma - Flandre
Alice
Mystia
Yuuka
Hina - Momiji
Iku - Tenshi
Kisume - Yamame - Parsee
Hatate
Akyuu - Kosuzu - Kasen - Toyohime - Yorihime (and Reisen and Tokiko if you insist)

The Forest of Magic seems quite likely for Mamizou for reasons stated above and it could house quite a few of these characters. The remaining MoF crew and Iku/Tenshi/Kasen seem like they could spectate at the top of Youkai Mountain, but that doesn't make a lot of sense considering Kanako and friends are already somewhere else. If I'm not mistaken, the entrance to the underground is near the foot of the Youkai Mountain so that's a possible place for the MoF/SA characters + Kasen to watch. Another possibility is the SDM except not really. And then there's the moon.

Youkai Mountain seems the most likely place for the new character's stage (assuming she doesn't have a completely new location), so that might or might not be a hint what kind of character she might be.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Sagus on May 22, 2013, 12:29:20 AM
It also could be that some of these chars are already in some of the shown stages, but were just off-camera (Rin nearly doesn't appear in the Koishi pic, for instance). I'd wager that either Momiji, Hatate or Hina can also be found in Nitori's stage.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 22, 2013, 12:33:29 AM
I don't have time to do this. Can someone help trace the spreading of the Facebook leak? Who first posted? Is it possible that the poster had seen it for a long while, but was courteous enough to wait for the end of character reveal to do this? Or is it really such a coincidence that the Facebook entry was found soon after Koishi was revealed?

@OP: Do you think it necessary to include the HM poster and disc in the OP?

<Tengukami> Done and done!

(http://i.imgur.com/vpNcYtK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/N0svNza.png)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Imosa on May 22, 2013, 12:42:35 AM
So I have an idea about the relevance of the title Hopeless Masquerade. I've read through everyone's profile except Reimu and I've noticed people being accused of "decadence" in 4 of them, Marisa, Byakuren, Futo, and Miko. Byakuren's profile also reminded of Kanako's description of shrines in the outside world, people coming to places of worship for the wrong reasons. What I expect is that the title is referring to people only pretending to be religious. I'm not sure why it's Hopeless but I suspect it refers to something like, the current situation being hopeless, unless someone intervenes.

On a different note, can we get the translations into an organized place?

@cuc, the facebook post was linked in the last thread. Also right here: https://www.facebook.com/letthewindsblow/posts/511272048893780
It seems to be 5 months old. So the info has been out there.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 22, 2013, 12:50:01 AM
No, I'm talking about the current spreading of the Facebook info half a day ago. Did someone first posted it to 4chan? I can see it being posted 11 hours ago on Reddit.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Star King on May 22, 2013, 12:52:31 AM
IMO you should put the blog in the OP too, as a lot of the new information comes from there: http://www.tasofro.net/cgi-bin/tasoblo/index.html

The Forest of Magic seems quite likely for Mamizou for reasons stated above and it could house quite a few of these characters. The remaining MoF crew and Iku/Tenshi/Kasen seem like they could spectate at the top of Youkai Mountain, but that doesn't make a lot of sense considering Kanako and friends are already somewhere else.

Keep in mind that it seems like characters can be used as an audience for multiple stages though. Prismriver Sisters were in both the Palanquin Ship and Miko's stage. The three fairies were at the Hakurei Shrine and Futo's stage. Maybe that just means those groups were moved from their demo locations, though.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Rei Scarlette on May 22, 2013, 12:53:05 AM
THAT DISC

As if this game wasn't awesome enough already, now I see THIS? Every time I check the topic, things keep getting better. :getdown:

too bad it doesnt actually work that way, else id start spamming that refresh button
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Gpop on May 22, 2013, 12:54:30 AM
It's like as if Tasofro NEEDS me to buy the disc 10 times over
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: commandercool on May 22, 2013, 12:55:02 AM
I don't have time to do this. Can someone help trace the spreading of the Facebook leak? Who first posted? Is it possible that the poster had seen it for a long while, but was courteous enough to wait for the end of character reveal to do this? Or is it really such a coincidence that the Facebook entry was found soon after Koishi was revealed?

@OP: Do you think it necessary to include the HM poster and disc in the OP?

<Tengukami> Done and done!

(http://i.imgur.com/vpNcYtK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/N0svNza.png)

Hmm, I like that look of that poster. Any idea how widely distributed it will be? I wouldn't mind picking one up if there are going to be enough of them floating around.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Rei Scarlette on May 22, 2013, 12:56:12 AM
It's like as if Tasofro NEEDS me to buy the disc 10 times over

Hey hey, save some discs for me too :derp: How about we each take five?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 22, 2013, 12:59:14 AM
I mean, most likely the original poster was already going "wow, this is legit" after Nitori's announcement. Did the poster immediately put it up on 4chan, or only release this info to the wild after Tasofro said it's the end of character reveal? I'm sorta interested about that.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Zoriri on May 22, 2013, 01:29:01 AM
Not really on topic with the poster but:

I'm not saying the silhouette on the cover in Myouren...

BUT IT'S MYOUREN. (Or Mamizou/Nue disguised as him.)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 22, 2013, 02:00:29 AM
Found the still alive original post on 4chan, then tried but failed to locate the poster's older posts. Seems the poster first said they knew Nitori was coming in an earlier thread, and only mentioned Mamizou when Koishi was announced. Guess I must thank they for not spoiling the fun of the past few days.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 22, 2013, 02:08:03 AM
It's like as if Tasofro NEEDS me to buy the disc 10 times over

Hey hey, save some discs for me too :derp: How about we each take five?

I think that would be Koishi manipulating your subconscious there. Her eyes are probably how she's pulling it off, and Tasfro knows it...
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 22, 2013, 02:17:05 AM
I think that would be Koishi manipulating your subconscious there. Her eyes are probably how she's pulling it off, and Tasfro knows it...

LOOK INTO MY EYES~.
In all seriousness, though, those eyes. They're like that first Koishi picture I used as an avatar, except brighter.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kosachi on May 22, 2013, 02:21:43 AM
I think that would be Koishi manipulating your subconscious there. Her eyes are probably how she's pulling it off, and Tasfro knows it...
Nah, they just slapped her onto the disc because Gpop and SirBlueberry will buy eight thousand copies each thus providing 75+% of their revenue :P
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Phlegeth on May 22, 2013, 02:26:10 AM
LOOK INTO MY EYES~.
In all seriousness, though, those eyes. They're like that first Koishi picture I used as an avatar, except brighter.

Those eyes make me wonder if she has Reisen's HEAT BEAM EYE BLASTS from the other fighting games.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Rei Scarlette on May 22, 2013, 02:28:51 AM
Nah, they just slapped her onto the disc because Gpop and SirBlueberry will buy eight thousand copies each thus providing 75+% of their revenue :P

This statement is entirely accurate. No subconscious manipulation necessary, I would willingly buy several copies just because this is an amazing disc. Oh uh I mean, it's also good to have backup copies right? Yeah you never know when something terrible might happen to one! that disc... that disc...
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 22, 2013, 02:31:42 AM
That most interesting HM analyzer from the previous thread tweeted: in the Mausoleum screenshot, the thing to the lower left of Byakuren should be Yuuka's umbrella. I wholeheartedly agree.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 22, 2013, 02:35:17 AM
Nah, they just slapped her onto the disc because Gpop and SirBlueberry will buy eight thousand copies each thus providing 75+% of their revenue :P

Is that implying they're the only Koishi fans here?
Also, I had that avatar already, what the hell.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 22, 2013, 02:42:53 AM
Also, I had that avatar already, what the hell.

But Kosachi has hearts in his!
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Gpop on May 22, 2013, 02:47:20 AM
Only eight thousand

Sir, you underestimate my abilities.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 22, 2013, 02:48:34 AM
But Kosachi has hearts in his!
Yes, because it has a background it's CLEARLY better.
And in case anyone is wondering, yes, I am a little jealous.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Rei Scarlette on May 22, 2013, 02:51:53 AM
Is that implying they're the only Koishi fans here?
Also, I had that avatar already, what the hell.

Certainly we couldn't be the only two Koishi fans here, but perhaps the only ones crazy enough to buy 514,000 copies of the game.

Only eight thousand

Sir, you underestimate my abilities.

As many as it takes, right?! :getdown:

Yes, because it has a background it's CLEARLY better.
And in case anyone is wondering, yes, I am a little jealous.

I just went for a more simple approach. Who needs a background anyways? :V
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: teefa85 on May 22, 2013, 02:56:00 AM
*realizes she hasn't posted anything on the new developments since they started, and that she's gone beyond Reimu levels of laziness into Yukari ones...*

Sure have an interesting group of fighters; as if I wasn't already shouting at Tasofro to take my money for the game.  Gonna have some fun fights in the future...and maybe this time I'll actually hook up 2P controls and drag someone down with me.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kingault on May 22, 2013, 02:56:42 AM
That most interesting HM analyzer from the previous thread tweeted: in the Mausoleum screenshot, the thing to the lower left of Byakuren should be Yuuka's umbrella. I wholeheartedly agree.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061030060452/starwars/images/a/ad/Donotwant.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Imosa on May 22, 2013, 03:10:18 AM
OP should also put a link to the blog in the first post.
It might be Yuukas umbrella but I'm not entirely sure. I can;t think of what else it would be though.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Mayson on May 22, 2013, 03:30:58 AM
You people are hopeless! Still talking about that disk with Koishi on it. Tsk. Although I agree, those eyes... actually, they are creepy.

There's also one artist Chabo on twitter, who animated a returning character, yet was surprised to see her not being revealed.
Now this is interesting. Counting 1 and 1 together and the fact that most characters are revealed it can only mean one of two things:
1. He is talking about Mamizou
2. He is talking about the last boss

If it is the latter, that means the last boss will be a returning character! I still root for Shinki as goddess and ruler of Makai!


That most interesting HM analyzer from the previous thread tweeted: in the Mausoleum screenshot, the thing to the lower left of Byakuren should be Yuuka's umbrella. I wholeheartedly agree.
That likely means she is not playable, though.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 22, 2013, 03:34:20 AM
There's also one artist Chabo on twitter, who animated a returning character, yet was surprised to see her not being revealed.

You wouldn't happen to have a screencap of this somewhere?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 22, 2013, 03:58:07 AM
RE: the poster of the roster leak, it's the person who discovered the list himself posting at both 4chan and Wakaba. He listed both Koishi and Mamizou after the Nitori reveal, and indicated at 4chan he also leaked the US passwords of Phantasy Star Portable 2 first. Few believed him.

He mused on whether he should have made more of an effort hyping/teasing his leak. Good thing he didn't!

You wouldn't happen to have a screencap of this somewhere?
Chabo is the artist who animated Okuu for Soku. Back then his involvement in Soku actually made it into the Touhou Popularity Contest's "biggest Touhou news" poll.

On twitter, he said he was the main animator on one character, and also worked on Futo. He was quite excited about the reveal of his character, until it dawned on him the reveal is not going to happen. He posted this, then deleted it:
(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad70/cucuct/forum%20posts/94cad1c8a786c9175393e989c83d70cf3ac757e9_zps51ebfb72.jpg)
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The character I'm responsible for is not in the [revealed] list.
What's also notable is he used an unusual pronoun "washi" to refer to himself. And "washi" is Mamizou's characteristic "old man" pronoun.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Mayson on May 22, 2013, 04:07:02 AM
RE: the poster of the roster leak, it's the person who discovered the list himself posting at both 4chan and Wakaba. He listed both Koishi and Mamizou after the Nitori reveal, and indicated at 4chan he also leaked the US passwords of Phantasy Star Portable 2 first, but few believed him.

He mused on whether he should have made more of an effort hyping/teasing his leak. Good thing he didn't!
Chabo is the artist who animated Okuu for Soku. Back then his involvement in Soku actually made it into the Touhou Popularity Contest's "biggest Touhou news" poll.

On twitter, he said he was the main animator on one character, and also worked on Futo. He was quite excited about the reveal of his character, until it dawned on him the reveal is not going to happen. He posted this, then deleted it:
(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad70/cucuct/forum%20posts/94cad1c8a786c9175393e989c83d70cf3ac757e9_zps51ebfb72.jpg)What's also notable is he used an unusual pronoun "washi" to refer to himself. And "washi" is Mamizou's characteristic "old man" pronoun.
Then all evidence is pointing towards Mamizou. Now I'm just curious who the silhouette is.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 22, 2013, 04:16:22 AM
Woooooaaaaaah, so Mamizou o/
Pretty excited to see how she plays and what relationship she might have with the silhouette. Speaking of the silhouette, what kind of ability do you guys think she might have?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 22, 2013, 04:19:44 AM
Where I have no problem with Mamizou being int he game, I really hopse she doesn't steal a spot of potential new character
@Hinacle I've had an idea of her using spirits for majority of her attacks. At the beggining of the match, she only has few spirits to work with, but as she becomes more popular, she will call for more spirits, making her attacks stronger or have more range. Her Last Word would her trapping her opponent with her spirits and then unleashing a massive source of energy upon them.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tsalop on May 22, 2013, 05:17:23 AM
You are all overlooking the most logical conclusion:
The final boss is Kosuzu that has been possessed by the grimoires.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: game2011 on May 22, 2013, 05:36:46 AM
Wait, so are there actually eleven characters or only ten?

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: Also, Sango Tororetsu posted the actual FB link for the leak in the old thread, so it should be legit.  Here:
https://www.facebook.com/letthewindsblow/posts/511272048893780

I don't have a FB account, so I can't check it...
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Frog on May 22, 2013, 06:09:15 AM
Wait, so are there actually eleven characters or only ten?

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: Also, Sango Tororetsu posted the actual FB link for the leak in the old thread, so it should be legit.  Here:
https://www.facebook.com/letthewindsblow/posts/511272048893780

I don't have a FB account, so I can't check it...

That link is legit.
And nobody knows for sure how many characters are going to appear, but going by said link it's 10 including both mamizou and an undisclosed "boss" character. (Who's presumably mima new)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Zakari on May 22, 2013, 06:21:17 AM
Why Countdown to Mima?

But Mima will never return because ZUN is already ignoring all the PC-98 characters.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 22, 2013, 06:39:37 AM
You are all overlooking the most logical conclusion:
The final boss is Kosuzu that has been possessed by the grimoires.

Possible, although that would mean that FS would eventually have to directly lead its plot to HM if this is so.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tsalop on May 22, 2013, 06:55:37 AM
Possible, although that would mean that FS would eventually have to directly lead its plot to HM if this is so.
Yeah... And I don't think that will happen.
Well, it would be quite a twist though.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Starxsword on May 22, 2013, 08:00:35 AM
@final boss: The final boss will most likely be playable. Like all final bosses of the previous Touhou fighting games, they have all been playable.

@Mamizou: She is most likely not the final boss.

@Shinto character: While Reimu is a Shinto shrine maiden, she was never shown to be working for Shinto, unlike the Moriyas.

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Can Koishi even be contained like that? I mean, if it strikes her fancy she can simply disappear from everyone's sight for as long as she wants...

I don't think that's how her ability works... She isn't invisible or anything. She just has no presence.
For example, if you take Youmu, when she was trailing Sakuya, was talking about how she has no presence, because she is half ghost. However, Sakuya was still easily able to detect her, because Youmu is just terrible at hiding.

My guess now is the final boss is related to Shinto.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tengukami on May 22, 2013, 08:14:47 AM
I think the OP's updated enough. This thread will likely hit 1000 again around release date and take a 4th (!) iteration.

Wow.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: qMyon on May 22, 2013, 08:21:36 AM
What the.....Koishi was a definite surprise. I take it she's been working with Kogasa...

Mamizou....probably to be expected. After all, Nue had to get her to do something after yanking her all the way across the barrier in 10D. Oh, and that means there might be some of those weird shikigami again. Wonder if Ran's going to make an appearance just so they can have a showdown.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: game2011 on May 22, 2013, 08:41:01 AM
I haven't gotten an answer to this yet.  What exactly is the "returning character" thing Chabo talked about?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 22, 2013, 08:45:02 AM
I haven't gotten an answer to this yet.  What exactly is the "returning character" thing Chabo talked about?

Thanks in advance!
Mamizou was implied, but obviously it's supposed to be a secret. "Returning" in this context means "not new to this game". Mamizou would be returning from TH13, Nitori is returning from TH10, etc. For reference, non-returning characters in previous fighting games include Suika, Iku, and Tenshi, who were all introduced in fighting games.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Shizzo on May 22, 2013, 09:06:04 AM
I've been reading the wiki and have yet to find a place in the HM article which states each character's special abilities.  Am I missing it completely or they really isn't anywhere there explaining them?  I've forgotten how Ichirin's is, and if Reimu's is just limited to her changing sides of the screen.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 22, 2013, 09:13:02 AM
Ichirin charges up a super-mode from taking damage. Or dealing damage. One of those. It's not really that super though.

Reimu has a slightly larger spirit meter.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 22, 2013, 09:16:19 AM
Each character's abilities are listed in their bios. Unfortunately , they haven't been keeping track on translating them that much.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Shizzo on May 22, 2013, 09:36:02 AM
I meant on the Touhou Wiki itself.  Not everybody's been accompanying the forum for the info so it'd be good if it stated their abilities somewhere.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 22, 2013, 09:40:21 AM
That what I ment with my reply. Their character pages have their HM bio, but most of them haven't been translated.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Quwanti on May 22, 2013, 10:16:03 AM
On twitter, he said he was the main animator on one character, and also worked on Futo. He was quite excited about the reveal of his character, until it dawned on him the reveal is not going to happen. He posted this, then deleted it:
(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad70/cucuct/forum%20posts/94cad1c8a786c9175393e989c83d70cf3ac757e9_zps51ebfb72.jpg)What's also notable is he used an unusual pronoun "washi" to refer to himself. And "washi" is Mamizou's characteristic "old man" pronoun.
Well, that explains it all for me, how Futo is so short-skirted, looking at his PixIv. I just realised that he also posted some "Hopeless Masquerade-styled" pixel art there, but I never bothered because he draws so many 18+ pictures. :V
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: HyperGumba on May 22, 2013, 10:56:56 AM
Well, that explains it all for me, how Futo is so short-skirted, looking at his PixIv. I just realised that he also posted some "Hopeless Masquerade-styled" pixel art there, but I never bothered because he draws so many 18+ pictures. :V

Woah, this guy is responsible for Futo? I like his stuff...  :blush:

Suprised to see ZUN/Tasofro letting someone who draws so much porn do some of the sprites, but I think he got a nice job done from the 3, 4 screens we have seen so far. Also, I wonder if he really meant Mamizou by this mysterious character... or was he the one responsible for the boss?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kingault on May 22, 2013, 11:04:45 AM
Maybe the final boss will be the Hakurei God?
Maybe he/she/it got tired of Reimu not gathering faith?
It's possible.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Sungho on May 22, 2013, 11:08:17 AM
I asked this question once before, but it seems to have been ignored with the force of 25 Koishi fanboys. I guess.

Is there any other character in other fighting games whose has mechanics which are similar to Koishi's special ability?
(As in, automatically and forcibly launching an attack when some conditions are met)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 22, 2013, 11:14:07 AM
Suprised to see ZUN/Tasofro letting someone who draws so much porn do some of the sprites.

I don't think people should judge some one's art skills by what they mainly draw. If he can do well maded sprites, then that's that.
Oh yeah, can any of you link to some of his work if possible?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: HyperGumba on May 22, 2013, 11:37:22 AM
I don't think people should judge some one's art skills by what they mainly draw. If he can do well maded sprites, then that's that.
Oh yeah, can any of you link to some of his work if possible?

[nsfw]http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=388930[/nsfw]

Proceed with caution, especially if you are not the lolicon type :V

Hoping it's okay to link that stuff marked accordingly with a warning ._. Else I'll remove it again.

And yeah, I guess I shouldn't be suprised after all. The sprites he has on his pixiv are not too shabby, and Tasofro might have seen this stuff.

They were probably after something else though  ::)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: zferolie on May 22, 2013, 12:46:54 PM
I just noticed the new title of this thread. Haha nice. Watch, it turns out to be Mima, and she then disappears forever again.

I asked this question once before, but it seems to have been ignored with the force of 25 Koishi fanboys. I guess.

Is there any other character in other fighting games whose has mechanics which are similar to Koishi's special ability?
(As in, automatically and forcibly launching an attack when some conditions are met)

Not that I can recall. At least not in the main fighting games. Maybe in one of the smaller games I haven't played....
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 22, 2013, 01:01:13 PM
Must be ZUN's idea again. Soku's Suwako was his idea.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 22, 2013, 01:29:57 PM
@HyperGumba The link didn't work on me, but I was able to snatch the ID to link myself to his account. So thanks, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: HyperGumba on May 22, 2013, 01:38:53 PM
@HyperGumba The link didn't work on me, but I was able to snatch the ID to link myself to his account. So thanks, I guess.

Oh damn, you are right! I forgot to recheck. Now I have to figure it out why it does that  :ohdear:

Also, am waiting warmly for updates. Tasofro said there won't be any character reveals, but we may get something else perhaps?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: DSveno on May 22, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
[nsfw]His pixiv. (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=388930)[/nsfw]

Proceed with caution, especially if you are not the lolicon type :V

Hoping it's okay to link that stuff marked accordingly with a warning ._. Else I'll remove it again.

And yeah, I guess I shouldn't be suprised after all. The sprites he has on his pixiv are not too shabby, and Tasofro might have seen this stuff.

Way too loli even for a lolicon as myself.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 22, 2013, 01:40:24 PM
Oh damn, you are right! I forgot to recheck. Now I have to figure it out why it does that  :ohdear:

Also, am waiting warmly for updates. Tasofro said there won't be any character reveals, but we may get something else perhaps?

From what I remember from the last thread, we're going to get some videos.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: HyperGumba on May 22, 2013, 01:45:36 PM
Sheesh, alright, managed to fix it by simply removing the url function and just spoilering the url itself.  :V

NSFWing. Whatever.

Way too loli even for a lolicon as myself.

Thou hath been warned!   :(

From what I remember from the last thread, we're going to get some videos.

This has got to be one of the best things I would have expected. So want to see stuff in motion.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: zferolie on May 22, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
So what site should we be looking on for these videos? The actual website, or their blog?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: TheTeff007 on May 22, 2013, 02:44:14 PM
I'd say the actual website, if you consider there is the video of the early gameplay.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Ikari on May 22, 2013, 02:47:34 PM
HOW DARE YOU GUYS FORGET ABOUT ME

AAAAAAH BYAKUREN MIKO NITORI

KOISHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

AAAAAAAAH

Okay I'm fine now. I seriously exploded in school because of Koishi's appearance but WHATEVER righht.

Too many awesome things all at once. I feel light headed. I may faint or something.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: commandercool on May 22, 2013, 03:19:42 PM
Maybe the final boss will be the Hakurei God?
Maybe he/she/it got tired of Reimu not gathering faith?
It's possible.

And as we all know, the Hakurei god is MIMA! :derp:

That did occur to me as a possibility. Would be a fun turn of events I think.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: zferolie on May 22, 2013, 03:25:08 PM
And as we all know, the Hakurei god is MIMA! :derp:

That did occur to me as a possibility. Would be a fun turn of events I think.

That would be an interesting twist. If I am correct, Reimu doesn't even know who the god is right? Like she forgot or didn't care enough?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Sagus on May 22, 2013, 03:30:53 PM
She never really knew who the Hakurei God is, and at most just made some very half-hearted "attempts" at discovering its identity (like letting the Three Faries search for its go-shintai).

It's be pretty cool to finally know his/her identity, but I think it's very unlikely...
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: zferolie on May 22, 2013, 03:34:48 PM
She never really knew who the Hakurei God is, and at most just made some very half-hearted "attempts" at discovering its identity (like letting the Three Faries search for its go-shintai).

It's be pretty cool to finally know his/her identity, but I think it's very unlikely...

That happened in the 3 fairies manga? Man I need to read the rest of it...

Before I knew she didn't know the God, I just assumed the God was the Dragon that helped make the Hakurei Barrier. Wouldn't that make sense? If the final boss turns out to be that dragon, but as a badass looking dragon girl, that would be awesome
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Sagus on May 22, 2013, 03:59:06 PM
Before I knew she didn't know the God, I just assumed the God was the Dragon that helped make the Hakurei Barrier. Wouldn't that make sense? If the final boss turns out to be that dragon, but as a badass looking dragon girl, that would be awesome
MEILING WILL REVEAL HER TRUE FORM
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: commandercool on May 22, 2013, 04:02:52 PM
MEILING WILL REVEAL HER TRUE FORM

Meiling will be the super-secret bonus character that's unlocked after you fight the last boss with everyone else and lose. After all, only dragon-type moves are super effective against dragons.

Oh wait, and ice-type moves. Nevermind, Cirno will save us all. :D
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Savory on May 22, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
So the Mima speculations are still going strong eh?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 22, 2013, 04:24:45 PM
I always though that Reimu's Shrine was sort of connecting point between Gensokyo and Human World. Like, there is one point in the Hakurei Barrier which can be opened and closed without removing the whole thing, and it is located in Hakurei Shrine on both sodes of the barrier. It doesn't serve any other purpose than that, other than make it easy to locate and the guardian of the gate to live there. There mgiht have been a god there before the Barrier was created, but its now gone.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Sagus on May 22, 2013, 04:33:16 PM
Nah, there's still a god there. Byakuren mentions that she can feel that the god is angry (which she claims to be the reason that the shrine gets so few visitors), Rinnosuke says he knows the name of the god (although considering it's Rinnosuke...), and it can still give its blessing of youkai extermination through the yin-yang orb (which is its go-shintai, according to OSP chap. 17).

And yeah, the Shrine is a point connecting the two "worlds"; IIRC Reimu describes it as being like a wall separating two territories, at the same time belonging and not belonging to both places.

Meiling will be the super-secret bonus character that's unlocked after you fight the last boss with everyone else and lose. After all, only dragon-type moves are super effective against dragons.

Oh wait, and ice-type moves. Nevermind, Cirno will save us all. :D
The final stage will be in the Dream Masoleum, and after everyone gets defeated Cirno will rise from the audience and freeze the world with her glory.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kilgamayan on May 22, 2013, 04:35:02 PM
So the Mima speculations are still going strong eh?

Always and forever. They're third on the list after death and taxes.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tiamat on May 22, 2013, 04:54:56 PM
I don't think anyone was serious about Mima in their speculations, though. It's just a fun running gag.

.....that said, her last appearance after she beat Alice in the extra stage did basically have her decide to become the god of the Hakurei shrine. :P
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 22, 2013, 04:57:45 PM
I'm not sure why everyone thinks Mima is going to be in any Touhou game. Obviously Rin Satsuki has a better chance! A scrapped character with no info on an ability and with zero personality?! She's perfect.  She could fill any role as opposed to square Mima with her nice personality and pretty stars. Everything in this game points to Rin as the culprit! Just think about it for a moment.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Sagus on May 22, 2013, 05:03:19 PM
I don't know guys

I think that it's most likely that the silhouette

is Ruukoto with a bunch of round missile launchers circling her

it's all a plan to get back at Reimu for abandoning her in the dusty shrine storehouse for 13 years
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 22, 2013, 05:13:43 PM
I don't know guys

I think that it's most likely that the silhouette

is Ruukoto with a bunch of round missile launchers circling her

it's all a plan to get back at Reimu for abandoning her in the dusty shrine storehouse for 13 years

That's as crazy as saying we're getting a new character in this game!
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 22, 2013, 05:15:50 PM
Nah, it is obvious that ZUN decided to make EX Rumia canon.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: commandercool on May 22, 2013, 05:17:33 PM
I think you guys are missing the most obvious explanation: That's not a silhouette, it's what the new character actually looks like. She's just a weird monochrome mess of shapes. The god of Reimu's shrine is one of the Great Old Ones. :D
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Sagus on May 22, 2013, 05:22:32 PM
I think you guys are missing the most obvious explanation: That's not a silhouette, it's what the new character actually looks like. She's just a weird monochrome mess of shapes. The god of Reimu's shrine is one of the Great Old Ones. :D
...well, now no matter how cool the new char is, I'll never be as satisfied with her as I would be if this was what she actually were. Thanks for spoiling things for me man, thanks a lot >=C

That's as crazy as saying we're getting a new character in this game!
Then we're all agreed

It's the unholy fusion of Mima/Shinki/Satsuki Rin.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Ikari on May 22, 2013, 05:37:54 PM
It's the unholy fusion of Mima/Shinki/Satsuki Rin.

And she will ride Rika's tank.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: CyberAngel on May 22, 2013, 05:43:51 PM
Just sayin', but the true hardcore fans have already recognized the silhouette as YuugenMagan's true form.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on May 22, 2013, 05:48:49 PM
The lack of new announcements is making this thread as silly as it can get.

Hopefully the weekend will come soon so we'll actually have something to talk about.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Mayson on May 22, 2013, 06:03:23 PM
I'm not sure why everyone thinks Mima is going to be in any Touhou game. Obviously Rin Satsuki has a better chance! A scrapped character with no info on an ability and with zero personality?! She's perfect.  She could fill any role as opposed to square Mima with her nice personality and pretty stars. Everything in this game points to Rin as the culprit! Just think about it for a moment.
Plot twist: The Hakurei Shrine goddess is Rin Satsuki.

DUNN DUNNN DUNNNNNNNNN!


It's the unholy fusion of Mima/Shinki/Satsuki Rin.
And she will ride Rika's tank.
...and she will also be accompanied by her sister Gengemugetsu!
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: The Noodles Guy on May 22, 2013, 06:09:25 PM
That silhouette is just Orin on drugs.

BTW, when will TF update the Tasofro page? Mamizou was supossed to appear.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 22, 2013, 06:11:44 PM
They said no new character reveals until Reitaisai 10
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kilgamayan on May 22, 2013, 06:20:02 PM
I don't think anyone was serious about Mima in their speculations, though. It's just a fun running gag.

No, there are a number of people that, with every new game release announcement, unironically start speculating about how Mima is going to appear.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Gpop on May 22, 2013, 06:20:12 PM
It's obviously gonna be a second Koishi guys

Come on you guys suck at this
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Rei Scarlette on May 22, 2013, 06:25:25 PM
Actually it is Mima, but then before she does anything the 2nd Koishi shows up and kicks her off the stage.

This is why the silhouette is hard to make out, guys. It's actually two silhouettes and at a funny angle.

"Countdown to Mima" should actually be "Mima's Countdown", it refers to how she has little time before disappearing again
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: KrackoCloud on May 22, 2013, 06:28:03 PM
so uh has anyone mentioned this yet
(http://i.imgur.com/sjr6bZR.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/AfZEUeT.png)
april fools
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Edible on May 22, 2013, 06:30:15 PM
While that would be awesome, it also could not be any more fake <_<
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tengukami on May 22, 2013, 06:31:42 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/R5EBHoq.png)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: commandercool on May 22, 2013, 06:31:59 PM
No, there are a number of people that, with every new game release announcement, unironically start speculating about how Mima is going to appear.

The important thing is that she's in all of our hearts.
Except mine. I couldn't possibly care less about Mima...

Edit: Aw, I can't do ninjatext on this site. There goes half of my material...

so uh has anyone mentioned this yet
(http://i.imgur.com/sjr6bZR.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/AfZEUeT.png)
april fools

Love that Spiderman pose. :D

Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: zferolie on May 22, 2013, 06:43:13 PM
so uh has anyone mentioned this yet
(http://i.imgur.com/sjr6bZR.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/AfZEUeT.png)
april fools

That is some very well done fake screenshots. Amazingly done. Who did it?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Ikari on May 22, 2013, 06:44:08 PM
I don't know what to say to be silly anymore.

I mean I went on and on about how Koishi would lolwander in and own everyone for the lulz because it was a crack theory and look where that got us. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: AJS on May 22, 2013, 06:51:06 PM
so uh has anyone mentioned this yet
(http://i.imgur.com/AfZEUeT.png)
Aww come on.  Despite the artist, I thought this game wasn't going to involve any porn. :V *SHOT*
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Quwanti on May 22, 2013, 06:51:40 PM
That is some very well done fake screenshots. Amazingly done. Who did it?
This person:

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=90634
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on May 22, 2013, 06:53:03 PM
Actually, I don't think it'd be a bad idea to include Yamame on the game. She could be one of those that hates religion, just like Nitori.

But then again, I'm happy enough with 10 characters already. I was expecting less than that.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 22, 2013, 06:59:04 PM
I don't know what to say to be silly anymore.

I mean I went on and on about how Koishi would lolwander in and own everyone for the lulz because it was a crack theory and look where that got us. >_>

Uh... well, it happened. Then again, there's been a bit of foreshadowing for her appearance, so it's not as random as one might first think.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Juno Arieiv on May 22, 2013, 07:04:22 PM
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!

HOPELESS MASQURADE
SUPER RELIGIOUS WAR RALLY!

WITNESS THE CARNAGE IN THIS SHINTOISM VS BUDDISM VS TAOISM VS ATHEISM VS HUMANISM SMACKDOWN!

IT'S GOING DOWN THIS SUNDAY, ALL OVER GENSOKYO!

AFTER THIS ONE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED NEW SHRINES!

BE THERE, OR BE CAVED!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(I was bored and realized the 26th is a Sunday)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Ikari on May 22, 2013, 07:04:38 PM
Uh... well, it happened. Then again, there's been a bit of foreshadowing for her appearance, so it's not as random as one might first think.

I still think it's a mira-

THAT'S IT. Sanae's in Gensokyo, got access to internet thanks to the Kappa, and is a member of this forum since a while. Now, upon hearing the news about HM, she got pretty excited. She thought of who she'd like to include in the game; She picked her favorites (Nitori was an obvious choice. *nods nods*), and remembered that time where Koishi and ReiRisa fought at the shrine and thought "Holy crap this fight was cool I need to be able to PLAY IT". Thus, she used her powers to create miracles to force her into the game!

And then! She was like "Pfff I'll also sabotage those other two loonies" and used her powers again to give Byakuren a silly hat (She's jealous of her gradient hair) and Miko a cape, because Sanae knows every vilians have capes. (But it backfired, making Miko awesome) Finally, after 6 days of miracle working, she took a day of rest.

I knew it. Now all that's left if finding Sanae on the forum. >_>

Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 22, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
There you go, you found something silly. ^^;
I was actually referring to SoPM...
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Post by: Kilgamayan on May 22, 2013, 07:08:20 PM
Oh my God I am going to murder the guy that made that Yamame for taunting me with her non-inclusion.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Amraphenson on May 22, 2013, 07:18:10 PM
Oh my God I am going to murder the guy that made that Yamame for taunting me with her non-inclusion.

*seethes*
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Post by: StratusAsterion on May 22, 2013, 08:39:18 PM
Aww no Alice, Flandre or Satori :< don't get me wrong nothing against Koishi but I just like Satori more. At least Satori, Aya and Sanae are background characters so they get some form of apperance, lack of Flandre is not really suprising, but possible lack of Alice is upsetting >.> I really wanted a new sprite of her, a new artwork and possibly (more of a stretch) a slightly new design upgrade for her.

I still think the last character will be Miko's cape personified
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Zil on May 22, 2013, 09:13:37 PM
The people making these fake portraits need to understand that in order to have even a shred a believability you need to arbitrarily change the character's hair color.

And when did gigantic tits become "loli."
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: shadowbringer on May 22, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
No, there are a number of people that, with every new game release announcement, unironically start speculating about how Mima is going to appear.

let me guess, all of said number of people come from /jp/. Which may be why I haven't seen such people (who claims she's going to appear. Which would be the best thing to happen to the Windows Touhou games, but still..).

"Countdown to Mima" should actually be "Mima's Countdown"

because she goes ATATATATATA on Koishi (making sure that the latter doesn't have her hitboxes pressure points reversed, first), that's why :V
you're already maid
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 22, 2013, 10:32:45 PM
No, there are a number of people that, with every new game release announcement, unironically start speculating about how Mima is going to appear.

This is the only thing about announcements that really ticks me off. She hasn't come back, and no matter how much people like her, the chances of her coming back are really slim. Actually try and think about who the real "antagonist" is going to be (I put that in quotes because, well, we don't know the intentions of said antagonist).
At this point, with character information at an end for now and Sunday on the horizon, all I'm hoping is that my story predictions were right. Then again, a lot of people probably share my thoughts, so... yeah. ^^;
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Post by: shadowbringer on May 22, 2013, 11:08:24 PM
This is the only thing about announcements that really ticks me off. She hasn't come back, and no matter how much people like her, the chances of her coming back are really slim. Actually try and think about who the real "antagonist" is going to be (I put that in quotes because, well, we don't know the intentions of said antagonist).
At this point, with character information at an end for now and Sunday on the horizon, all I'm hoping is that my story predictions were right. Then again, a lot of people probably share my thoughts, so... yeah. ^^;

maybe she won't come back, maybe she never left. (most people forget this other possibility, but ZUN's not telling anyone which of them is true, at least for now.)

figuring out antagonists for the TH games would require some large amounts of luck and knowledge on japanese culture, history, etc.. too much information to derive possibilities from, imho.

I'll disagree with you, though, in that I hope (pun not intended) that the gameplay is solid, fun and competition-friendly, beforehand.
My weird pattern figuring sense says that, as an after thought, HM "has" the "mission" of surpassing the low expectation caused by it being based on Astra Fighters, while DDC also "has" the "mission" of being more interesting, gameplay-wise, than TD. (like KoF XIII had to fight against the backlash its predecessor caused) /TD "bashing"

random thought of today (this one I had for a while, it's not related to or dependent on the release of new games): since it's a possibility (read well, *possibility*) that Mima can (as well as can not) be the shrine's ("evil") deity, it *can* actually make sense, as it's said (not in the touhou canon) that vengeful spirits's (onryo) anger can be placated by turning said spirits into deities. Though even Mima's PoDD profile (which, being PC-98, means little to the current Touhou canon) mentions that her evilness has fallen off from her due to having lived for a long time.
About her goal to become a deity.. one day I looked into a video of her translated ending in MS (and Yuka's), and
they seem to be speaking of each other (in my interpretation), regarding how one wanted to be like the other (even though Yuka stalks Marisa, not Mima), and Mima used sheets to "take on a more ghostly appearance", according to herself.. when she failed her attempt to become a god; she doesn't even know, back then, how to become one.

By the way, I'll main Byakuren (if the game turns out to be good), and sub other people (wishfully thinking that Koishi is OP, so that I can pretend to be playing as DotS' Koishi)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 22, 2013, 11:11:04 PM
I didn't think I had to state good gameplay. I thought it was implied that I hoped for that as well. Of course, you might think I just like games regardless of how good the gameplay is, so I guess you have me there. ^^;
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 22, 2013, 11:31:46 PM
Actually try and think about who the real "antagonist" is going to be (I put that in quotes because, well, we don't know the intentions of said antagonist).
It'll obviously be a new character? Is it really worth spending that much time thinking about? Well, I suppose she's gonna have one of the kanji from the title in her name.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 22, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
It'll obviously be a new character? Is it really worth spending that much time thinking about? Well, I suppose she's gonna have one of the kanji from the title in her name.
What I meant by that was a connection to Japanese folklore. cuc and others have said some stuff back on the previous thread that I forget, but there were various theories about the character being a god or someone posing as a god (I forget which one, because I don't know all of the gods or goddesses). Of course we can't guess the name or anything, but we can guess possibly what the character could be.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tengukami on May 23, 2013, 12:18:20 AM
It'll obviously be a new character? Is it really worth spending that much time thinking about?

YES. Because it is fun.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 23, 2013, 12:20:49 AM
Oh, she is a new character, because a newbie sprite artist said on twitter he worked part of the final boss sprites. As indicated by Chabo, he wouldn't know she's the final boss if she's not new. Sorry for forgetting to report that. Also I should have made it clearer Chabo is not the main artist on Futo.

...Ha, as if ZUN would change any character's silhouette drastically.

RE: culture knowledge: the key with her is her use of masks and dance-like pose. A kagura and noh theme is highly likely, and that in turn implies communicating with gods. Or she can always be a central Asian dancer.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Phlegeth on May 23, 2013, 12:40:59 AM
Guys, guys real talk.  I think Yorihime's gonna be the bonus boss.  I mean who better for a game about religion than someone who can summon the entire Shinto pantheon.  Also she probably fights like Yu from P4 Arena.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 23, 2013, 12:42:53 AM
I figured it out! The silhouette isn't MimShikRin, it's frickin' Kisume! How do I know this? Welllllllllllll....
(http://i.imgur.com/f9iKTZ8.jpg?1)
You see the object in the black circle? That's one of Kisume's will-o'-the-wisps. Will-o'-the-wisps being her ability. No explanation needed.
Now for the bird in the red circle. I was able to come across some rare concept art of Kisume with wings!
(http://i.imgur.com/Olppkt0.png)
Crazy, right? Bet that blew your socks off! I'd say hold onto them because things are about to become crazier, but they're flown off. I recommend keeping your balance because at this next news, you're going to be head over heels!
I came across some coding in SA that went by unnoticed by the translators. I took it upon myself to translate it and found that it meant "Final Kisume"
Maybe Kisume was meant to have a bigger role than just forgettable stage 1 midboss. I think Zun intentionally dumbed down her power. I have proof of this too:
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According to ZUN, her name is written in katakana to give it an old feel, and it's not written in kanji because "that would make her seem too strong".
I think Kisume being weak was Zun "trolling" and biding time until 13.5 where he could reveal Kisume in all glory!
By now you're probably wondering "Hinacle! What about the object in the black box?!" Well, I believe that it is, what I have dubbed as "Kisume's Lovey-Dovey Heart Throbbing Core<3" Word of warning: You MUST say the "<3" There are many Kisume's Lovey-Dovey Heart Throbbing Cores out there in the world. I also came upon Kisume's profile within the coding of 13.5's demo
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Kisume is Touhou 13.5's primary antagonist and final boss, an alien parasite which crash landed in the year 65,000,000 B.C. It was named "Kisume" by Yukari, a word she made up. Kisume came to Earth with the intention of draining its energy so that it could produce genetically enhanced spawn, which would then continue the cycle on other planets. In the North American version of the game, it is claimed once in the series that Kisume directly influenced all technology and life on the planet, evolving the planet's life forms to cultivate it, and make itself stronger.[1] However, the line is absent in the Japanese version.[2] Despite it originally just being in translation though in Hopeless Masquerade it appears this actually is the case as a large portion of the game involves many layers of time line event controller which all end at Kisume. In the original timeline, Kisume slept for millions of years, gaining power until 1999 AD, when he emerged and put the world into an apocalyptic state. However, because of the interference of many of the characters, he was summoned at two other points in time?12000 BC and 600 AD. While traveling in 2300 AD, Koishi, Futo, and Nitori see a video of the Day of Kisume which occurred in 1999 AD, and decide to prevent it somehow. Mamizou is also after Kisume for destroying her home era of 12000 BC.

Kisume, in Flight of the Dactyls
Kisume has three different forms. The first form is the outer shell, which resembles the Peluda, a mythical beast in French mythology. The second form consists of a large humanoid form with two arms. The third and final form is Kisume Core, consisting of three parts: a humanoid center, and two floating 'bits'. Apparently, the absolute core of Kisume is one of these bits, since it can revive its other parts and destroying it defeats Kisume.
Turns out Hopeless Masquerade has some layers of story telling to it! What could Zun be planning with all of this story? Maybe it could be some social commentary? Who knows!? I'm sorry for spoiling 13.5 for all of you. I just had to tell people.  As a bonus, I came upon Kisume's unused SA theme. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKCs4OXoyYs) I have reason to believe that it shows 4 scrapped Touhou characters! That's a story for another time however.
....
I should go do some homework before I post something even stupider than this.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Lukesky180 on May 23, 2013, 12:50:53 AM
Woaaaah. That was deep.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Zork787 on May 23, 2013, 01:08:54 AM
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.................


How 'bout that English Patch (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14754.0.html), any news on who's decided to take it up?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kingault on May 23, 2013, 01:17:48 AM
Maybe Kisume was possessed by 10D's 1st stage midboss since before she landed on Earth...
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Post by: Lukesky180 on May 23, 2013, 01:19:48 AM
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.................


How 'bout that English Patch (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14754.0.html), any news on who's decided to take it up?
Not that I've seen... Although it was only a matter of time before someone would ask about it here.

Although I do hope we can get a hold of the tools from the successful Chinese community and figure out the vertical text issues...
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 23, 2013, 03:40:21 AM
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.................


How 'bout that English Patch (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14754.0.html), any news on who's decided to take it up?
It will depend entirely on how fast the game files can get decrypted.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 23, 2013, 04:16:11 AM
@Hinacle You know what the crazy thing is? The guy who did the Yamane mockup, also did this picture
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/142/4/4/yamanme_kisume_by_tppr10-d668mxx.jpg)
Also, Kisume's profile totally isn't ripping off Lavos
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Mayson on May 23, 2013, 04:39:21 AM
@Hinace You know what the crazy thing is? The guy who did the Yamane mockup, also did this picture
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/142/4/4/yamanme_kisume_by_tppr10-d668mxx.jpg)
He is so good, if we didn't have all the other information already I'd instantly believe it. God damn it.  :wat:
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Rei Scarlette on May 23, 2013, 05:04:01 AM
Hey, it all makes sense now. The final boss is a mont blanc, y'all!

im sorry but i can never ever get that out of my head
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Post by: Starxsword on May 23, 2013, 07:45:04 AM
So, will they be posting game play videos during the next few days?
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Post by: Quwanti on May 23, 2013, 09:49:22 AM
Oh, she is a new character, because a newbie sprite artist said on twitter he worked part of the final boss sprites. As indicated by Chabo, he wouldn't know she's the final boss if she's not new. Sorry for forgetting to report that. Also I should have made it clearer Chabo is not the main artist on Futo.
Now I am curious who this artist is. Do you have a link?

And maybe also for any other designers I don't know off?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kingault on May 23, 2013, 10:15:41 AM
Also, Kisume's profile totally isn't ripping off Lavos

But then who was Magus?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: HyperGumba on May 23, 2013, 10:57:49 AM
Now I am curious who this artist is. Do you have a link?

And maybe also for any other designers I don't know off?

[nsfw]http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=388930[/nsfw]

As the image implies, proceed with caution  :ohdear:

And I do hope to see some new footage. Though if we don't get any, we will likely be able to play it ourselves by the end of Sunday.

Still, what's with the initially promised daily updates until release?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 23, 2013, 12:54:55 PM
As the image implies, proceed with caution  :ohdear:
No, Quwanti was asking for the newbie artist who worked on the final boss.

That's his twitter: https://twitter.com/migelfutosi

For his work, he points to his twitter gallery: http://twitpic.com/photos/migelfutosi
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Zakari on May 23, 2013, 01:16:25 PM
All about Kisume.

Does that mean, is she stronger than the Lunarians?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Quwanti on May 23, 2013, 01:24:09 PM
No, Quwanti was asking for the newbie artist who worked on the final boss.

That's his twitter: https://twitter.com/migelfutosi

For his work, he points to his twitter gallery: http://twitpic.com/photos/migelfutosi
Thank you.

Damn, he really knows how to animate his stuff. I want to reach that kind off skills, eventually.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: HyperGumba on May 23, 2013, 02:47:01 PM
No, Quwanti was asking for the newbie artist who worked on the final boss.

That's his twitter: https://twitter.com/migelfutosi

For his work, he points to his twitter gallery: http://twitpic.com/photos/migelfutosi

Oh man, I feel so dumb. Nice to see more stuff though, haven't seen this myself yet.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: StratusAsterion on May 23, 2013, 03:26:54 PM
Wow that persons done Madoka, Chuunibyou AND Gj-Bu sprites! I love this person
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Post by: AnonymousPondScum on May 24, 2013, 03:31:17 AM
All I have to say is that I've been increasingly underwhelmed as the reveals have gone on but at least I'll get another Cosmic Mind and/or Fires of Hokkai rendition out of this whole ordeal.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kingault on May 24, 2013, 04:16:20 AM
The final boss is most likely this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fraTW0bFLLw).
Either that or it turns out that ZUN is the Hakurei God.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Gray21oh on May 24, 2013, 08:06:53 AM
I have to wonder if the final boss track would just be a rearrangement of Izanagi Object from NToJ.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Zakari on May 24, 2013, 12:11:33 PM
I think the final character will be revealed on Reitaisai 10.

can`t wait for it.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tsalop on May 24, 2013, 12:39:17 PM
I think the final character will be revealed on Reitaisai 10.

can`t wait for it.
Less than hour from its release you will find fan-art all over the Pixiv...
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 24, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
Less than hour from its release you will find fan-art all over the Pixiv...
Bets on how fast Rule 34 on that character will come are open.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Zakari on May 24, 2013, 01:05:34 PM
From what time does Reitaisai 10 will be open this sunday?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: TheTeff007 on May 24, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
Bets on how fast Rule 34 on that character will come are open.


< 40 Minutes. Nuff Said.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Gray21oh on May 24, 2013, 01:39:04 PM

< 40 Minutes. Nuff Said.
I'm gonna bet < 20 minutes for a crappy doodle then.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 24, 2013, 03:41:11 PM
Less than hour from its release you will find fan-art all over the Pixiv...

Isn't the release Sunday since I'm pretty sure the site states
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5月26日日曜日
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tsalop on May 24, 2013, 03:46:29 PM
Isn't the release Sunday since I'm pretty sure the site states
Yeah... It is released on Sunday.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Raikaria on May 24, 2013, 04:04:34 PM
Apparently Koishi and Nitori have taken lessons from Kogasa.

Seriously. What do those two have to do with this game's theme?

Annoyed that unless Seiga is the last boss, Seiga isn't in the game. Seiga would have been perfect for a game like this, especially with Yoshika shenanigans [Or just Yoshika fighting instead]

Although Soga making it in pleases me. Like Ichirin is a flat and boring hitbox that has some redemption hope in this game [Although she remains a hitbox], Soga is getting some too from her 'Random midboss and final boss summon!'.

[Rooting for Shinki final boss for the luls]

Also, find it weird there's no Moriya rep. Makes me think Final Boss may be Kanako/Suwako. That said, haven't they kinda given up on faith by now? Suwako had by MoF...
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Post by: Sanger Zonvolt on May 24, 2013, 04:59:28 PM
Edit:

Nevermind, I figured out Last Words from the wiki.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tengukami on May 24, 2013, 05:07:58 PM
Y'all need to stop talkin' bad about Ichirin before you get slapped.
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Post by: CyberAngel on May 24, 2013, 05:26:15 PM
You know, on Ichirin, I was a bit angry that she was playable while Murasa and Shou were not, but thinking about it, she makes sense. She's a temple's nun (unlike Murasa) and knows how to fight (unlike Shou, and Nazrin's too cunning for direct confrontation). Hopefully, there will be more information on her role in the temple and her personality in general, since I liked her the least out of the whole UFO cast. (Star Platinum reference also helps :D)
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Ikari on May 24, 2013, 05:28:07 PM
I actually disliked Ichirin the most out of the Myouren bunch as well, but I think this game will make me like her as much as the others. She just got a level up in badass, y'know?
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Post by: Tiamat on May 24, 2013, 05:47:59 PM
Ichirin's the wheel that guards and is guarded. Maybe she'll end up being like a more plucky less butt-monkey and bombastic Meiling or something (too bad her guard role feels kinda... inconsistent to me now since Kyouko had it in Ten Desires). Now that she'll presumably have her own storyline, we can hopefully at least see more of her personality. UFO barely gave any of it out at all, given that she didn't even have any dialogue in any endings and her dialogue with all the heroines was practically the exact same thing for all six paths and more about the UFO pieces than anything to do with her. She didn't even get a backstory in her profile like Shou, Nazrin, and Murasa did. It took until SoPM to give her one (though at least she finally got one).

(hilariously enough, as an aside, when it comes to in-game portrayal, Kogasa's probably the most developed personality in UFO besides maybe Byakuren. Every single one of Kogasa's dialogues in the six paths are different and touch upon a different aspect of her philosophical outlook on life or personality, while for every other character besides Byakuren, the conversation is almost the same across all six paths, if I recall correctly).
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Post by: Ikari on May 24, 2013, 05:52:07 PM
(hilariously enough, as an aside, when it comes to in-game portrayal, Kogasa's probably the most developed personality in UFO besides maybe Byakuren. Every single one of Kogasa's dialogues in the six paths are different and touch upon a different aspect of her philosophical outlook on life or personality, while for every other character besides Byakuren, the conversation is almost the same across all six paths, if I recall correctly).

This is hilariously true. I do recall Byakuren has different reactions to the character's presence and goals, but it doesn't change much across their two shottypes. Reimu was about her duty, Sanae was kind of a "I guess I gotta fight you lulz" (Byakuren: Srsly.) and I can't recall Marisa's.

Kogasa is probably the most developped character in the entire series, what's with the unending list of quirks ZUN gave out about her.
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Post by: Sagus on May 24, 2013, 06:06:02 PM
too bad her guard role feels kinda... inconsistent to me now since Kyouko had it in Ten Desires
Kyouko doesn't really have a guard role, does she? She's just an apprentice whose training consists in cleaning the main gate, which is the only reason the heronie runs into her at all.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tiamat on May 24, 2013, 06:35:05 PM
Kyouko doesn't really have a guard role, does she? She's just an apprentice whose training consists in cleaning the main gate, which is the only reason the heronie runs into her at all.

Well, it's not directly stated, but her BGM being "The Youkai Before the Gate" and many of her dialogues with the heroines does kinda give off gate guard vibes (like with Youmu, and she tells Reimu, "My morning duties are sweeping, cooking, and meeting challengers", etc) even if that clearly isn't her main focus/job/occupation. It always felt like the "I'm not officially the gate guard, but I still guard the gate" kinda thing to me, which just makes Ichirin's guard position look kinda... redundant. Unless Ichirin's like, the guard when the temple is in ship mode, I suppose, which might make more sense since Ichirin seems more aerial than Kyouko and her stage is the Palanquin Ship, not the Temple.  And that was her job in UFO, too.
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Post by: Kingault on May 24, 2013, 06:56:20 PM
Apparently Koishi and Nitori have taken lessons from Kogasa.

Seriously. What do those two have to do with this game's theme?


Also, find it weird there's no Moriya rep. Makes me think Final Boss may be Kanako/Suwako. That said, haven't they kinda given up on faith by now? Suwako had by MoF...
The Moriya folk appear in the stage backgrounds, so that's unlikely.
Nitori's a member of the kappas that dislike religion, and Koishi is a layperson at the Myouren Temple. Also, her profile said that pretty much joined in for the lulz, or something.
Either way, they both have some connection to religion.
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 24, 2013, 07:44:31 PM
I honestly will be dissapointed if one of Byakuren's spellcards doesn't allow her to use her specials without needing to chant them . I mean, Magician's Sultra Scroll has been stated to have an "auto-chanting" mode what allows her to use spells by just waving it around.
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Post by: Sagus on May 24, 2013, 10:18:37 PM
Well, it's not directly stated, but her BGM being "The Youkai Before the Gate" and many of her dialogues with the heroines does kinda give off gate guard vibes (like with Youmu, and she tells Reimu, "My morning duties are sweeping, cooking, and meeting challengers", etc) even if that clearly isn't her main focus/job/occupation. It always felt like the "I'm not officially the gate guard, but I still guard the gate" kinda thing to me, which just makes Ichirin's guard position look kinda... redundant. Unless Ichirin's like, the guard when the temple is in ship mode, I suppose, which might make more sense since Ichirin seems more aerial than Kyouko and her stage is the Palanquin Ship, not the Temple.  And that was her job in UFO, too.
"Before the Gate" can simply mean she's in front of the gate, which would make sense since her job is sweeping there...
But regardless, she's a low-level youkai, and I don't think they'd put someone that they pratically just met to guard the place, specially since they have far more powerful people with them. I always thought of her as an "alarm system" instead of someone that's expected to repeal attacks; you can hear her fighting from miles away, and since she's located at the gate, any enemy would need to pass through her.
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Post by: Clarste on May 24, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
Why would they really need a guard at the gate in the first place? It's a temple, open to visitors. While presumably they don't want people stealing stuff, to a large extent it's a public place that values being inviting over being secure.
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Post by: commandercool on May 24, 2013, 10:43:06 PM
Why would they really need a guard at the gate in the first place? It's a temple, open to visitors. While presumably they don't want people stealing stuff, to a large extent it's a public place that values being inviting over being secure.

Now I have a mental image of a bunch of vandals stealing Shou. :V
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Post by: Tengukami on May 24, 2013, 11:08:35 PM
I can see a guard at a temple. Especially if it's one with some valuable stuff in it. Museums have guards, too, and they're not keeping visitors at bay. In Kyouko's case, I get more the feeling she's there to do chores, but sort of takes it upon herself to have guard duties.
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Post by: Clarste on May 24, 2013, 11:13:00 PM
But rather than the front gate, wouldn't it be more efficient to have them watch the vault where they keep the artifacts?
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Post by: Kosachi on May 24, 2013, 11:23:17 PM
But rather than the front gate, wouldn't it be more efficient to have them watch the vault where they keep the artifacts?
You'd be right, but don't forget that Kyouko says that she brand spankin' new to the temple. I don't think it would be a very smart decision to leave something as valuable as the vault to a newbie like her.
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Post by: Clarste on May 24, 2013, 11:27:30 PM
You'd be right, but don't forget that Kyouko says that she brand spankin' new to the temple. I don't think it would be a very smart decision to leave something as valuable as the vault to a newbie like her.
Which is the point. She's not a guard, she's sweeping. Maybe acting as a greeter too.
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Post by: shadowbringer on May 24, 2013, 11:36:07 PM
She's a temple's nun (unlike Murasa) and knows how to fight (unlike Shou).

to think that Cirno (but not limited to) is "more fitting" for a fighting game or "a better fighter" than the war god's representative (*).. I call fraud detection warning on you, Shou :V  (even Komachi wasn't supposed to be hitting people with her scythe, but she does anyways)

(*) this reminds me of a 4-koma where either Nue or Murasa (don't remember which) was defeated by Shou in under 30 moves in shogi, because of that

in other news, my guesses for today (anb I haven't even played the demo or re-read the characters' descriptions):
- Reimu = balanced type
- Marisa = rushdown/straightforward type
- Ichirin = heavy-hitter type (reminds me of Fiona, from Arcana Heart series, or Karulau, from AquaPazza; they've got range and damage, but not so good startup and recoveries)
- Byakuren = balanced type (by lack of other ideas), she would still be able to fight without preparing her moves, but would benefit from doing so (play normally or defensively, until you get the chance to prepare skills, then you have one more option for offense or defense, gradually shifting the momentum in your favor, a bit like Arcana Heart's Yoriko's pentagrams/triangle inputs which temporarily power up her moves)
- Futo = zoner or defensive type (getting stronger, status-wise as the match goes on, favoring players who can stay alive longer)
- Miko = either rushdown or balanced or speed-oriented type (I think the lack of defensive features on her would be nice as it forces the player to be able to do instant blocks, and thus making use of the game's system better than it would if she had also good defensive features)
- Nitori = gimmick type (reminds me of Faust, from Guilty Gear series)
- Koishi = zoner (setting up things on the screen for later activation) and/or long-range-type (like Clarice/Scharlachrot/Kamui, again, from Arcana Heart series, who, despite their long-range attacks, have good mobility, but aren't good with dealing with close-range pressure)

if there was to be a grappler type, it could be more probably Nitori or Ichirin. (besides Reimu's last word)
Byakuren could be a speed-type character (from her "super-human" spellcard), in case the game lacks one.
I'd like to see a stance character (could be Mamizou, if she really gets to be in the game), and a heavy zoning character (like Maori, in AH), hopefully Koishi (or someone else) fits this role well.

finally, have some IaMP character page (http://tasofro.net/touhou/chara.html) for comparison (the point being: 8 characters on it too)
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Post by: cuc on May 24, 2013, 11:37:52 PM
>What's Koishi got to do with HM story

"With neither hopes nor dreams." Her state/ability is the perfect defense against both Miko's desire-reading and the culprit's hope-stealing.

Hmm, as an aside, "Thief of Hope" is a memorable card name from Magic: The Gathering.
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Post by: Tengukami on May 24, 2013, 11:40:51 PM
But rather than the front gate, wouldn't it be more efficient to have them watch the vault where they keep the artifacts?

Not necessarily? Guards are often at gates. This is a thing. Her need to fight "intruders" when she's just attending chores shows, though, that this is not really her official capacity.
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Post by: Clarste on May 25, 2013, 12:17:17 AM
Saying Shou can't fight is a bit misleading. SoPM only says she can't fight with the spear, but she has an awesomely powerful laser artifact. Which relies on her "attract treasures" power to get ammo. She's less a brawler and more artillery, but that's still fighting. Although based on how they split up the religious fighting styles (Buddhism = close-range and Taoism = dense shots) I suppose it makes sense to leave her out of this. Lasers sound more Taoist than Buddhist in this context.
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Post by: Clarste on May 25, 2013, 12:21:40 AM
Not necessarily? Guards are often at gates. This is a thing. Her need to fight "intruders" when she's just attending chores shows, though, that this is not really her official capacity.
The simple fact though is that you're not an "intruder" in TD. You're a "guest". She has no reason to believe that you mean harm, and it's not like the graveyard is off-limits to guests. Havign someone near the gate to keep track of people and going makes sense, but it's not her job to fight intruders. My understanding is that she only attacked you out of youkai instinct, completely ignoring her instructions as a student of the temple. Which seems to be a thing.

For what it's worth though, in HM Ichirin seems to have been explicitly asked to look over the temple while Byakuren is away.

edit: Oops, double post. Should I combine it with the previous post and blank this or something?
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 12:53:40 AM
The simple fact though is that you're not an "intruder" in TD. You're a "guest". She has no reason to believe that you mean harm, and it's not like the graveyard is off-limits to guests. Havign someone near the gate to keep track of people and going makes sense, but it's not her job to fight intruders. My understanding is that she only attacked you out of youkai instinct, completely ignoring her instructions as a student of the temple. Which seems to be a thing.

Wow it's like we're both saying she's not a guard but just acts like one.
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Post by: Clarste on May 25, 2013, 01:25:23 AM
Wow it's like we're both saying she's not a guard but just acts like one.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree about what acting like a guard means.
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 25, 2013, 02:26:02 AM
I'll have a good laugh if either the story mode or arcade mode (if it has one) resembles this:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q158/AyaReiko/touhou/mk1bphd-Copy.png)
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Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on May 25, 2013, 02:48:56 AM
I'll have a good laugh if either the story mode or arcade mode (if it has one) resembles this:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q158/AyaReiko/touhou/mk1bphd-Copy.png)

LOOOOL. Mortal Kombat 1 Battle Plan style? Make it happen please!
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Post by: Star King on May 25, 2013, 03:30:01 AM
I feel like Miko/Byakuren might be like Yuyuko/Remilia in IaMP story mode

As in they'll come right before the midboss. They'll be the, uh, midmidboss.
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Post by: Sagus on May 25, 2013, 04:56:45 AM
The simple fact though is that you're not an "intruder" in TD. You're a "guest". She has no reason to believe that you mean harm, and it's not like the graveyard is off-limits to guests. Havign someone near the gate to keep track of people and going makes sense, but it's not her job to fight intruders.
Dude, it's Gensokyou. Beating the crap out of the guest is their idea of a heartful greeting.
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Post by: Hinacle on May 25, 2013, 05:39:21 AM
E: Fixed it.
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Post by: Miaki on May 25, 2013, 06:41:07 AM
Wouldn't it be strange if they really made it obvious and brought back Shinki back as the boss of Shinkirou? As the title suggests? lol
If you look at her profile, the fan games that had shinki in it, zun did have something to do with them.
Also in the main games, makai kept being referenced or brought back.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Shinki
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Post by: Gray21oh on May 25, 2013, 08:46:17 AM
New character announced for those that buy the game with a 360.
(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv57/Jaksin/Th135wBK_zps362c3053.jpg)
Sorry I had to.
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Post by: AnonymousPondScum on May 25, 2013, 08:53:37 AM
Oh, you FUCK.  :colonveeplusalpha:
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Post by: Yonowaaru on May 25, 2013, 08:56:36 AM
I'm fairly sure this person was mentioned before, but now that we know (or think to know) that Mamizou will appear, I think the final boss might be based on this person:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichiren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichiren)
A buddhist monk famous for his devotion to the Lotus Sutra, who was banished to Sado (where Mamizou says she is from).
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 25, 2013, 12:17:09 PM
New character announced for those that buy the game with a 360.
(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv57/Jaksin/Th135wBK_zps362c3053.jpg)
Sorry I had to.
On the bright side, atleast you don't have to play the game with Kinect :v:
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Post by: cuc on May 25, 2013, 01:19:58 PM
According to Unabara's tweets at this moment:

-When making today's build, they discovered a critical ("nuclear landmine") bug.
-50 minutes ago as of this post, they had just completed the unexpected heavy work to fix it.
-They will issue a patch tomorrow.
-Of course the promised gameplay video isn't happening.
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Post by: monhan on May 25, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
Unabara tweeted:The new gameplay video they promised isn't going to happen.

Well, we'll get to play the game pretty soon. No sweat really.

To be honest, I don't think I'll be patient enough to wait until my copy arrived so I'll probably take the "other" option. I don't want to encourage piracy but I'm afraid I won't have the time to play the game when the copy finally arrived. Also, I'm quite skeptic that it'll arrive because my country services is pretty hideous with these things(I just lost 150$ this week) so there's a chance that it won't. Well, at least the money goes to ZUN.
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Post by: cuc on May 25, 2013, 01:36:55 PM
See my edited post. We'll have some Day 0 patching to do.
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 25, 2013, 01:41:10 PM
-When making today's build, they discovered a critical ("nuclear landmine") bug.
... Too bad they didn't tell what the bug was, because with such a nickname, It must have been serious.
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Post by: cuc on May 25, 2013, 01:47:02 PM
"Nuclear landmine" is common otaku slang. Buying a bad anime/game/whatever cultural products, and realizing it sucks is "stepping on a landmine". Calling the most unexpectedly horrible games they bought "nuclear landmines" is the natural conclusion of this analogy.

I think we'll know what the bug is when we see the bugfix list tomorrow.
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Post by: Gray21oh on May 25, 2013, 02:19:12 PM
Nuclear landmine bug?! I hope people get word about the patch if the bug is critical, cause I'd hate to see this game slammed because of this bug.
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 02:27:34 PM
If the bug is as serious as "nuclear landmine" connotes, I'm sure they'll do what they can to ensure folks know about the patch.

Also:
Dude, it's Gensokyou. Beating the crap out of the guest is their idea of a heartful greeting.
Thank you. This is like, the most important thing to keep in mind whenever someone is confronted with something in Gensokyo that would not apply in the outside world: Gensokyo has its own rules, and we can look at stuff that has happened previously in Gensokyo for hints as to how they operate still (see: Meiling, Hong).
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Post by: cuc on May 25, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
SWR had a Day 0 patch too. Nothing unusual for game developers.
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Post by: game2011 on May 25, 2013, 03:35:25 PM
And they said they were going to release gameplay videos before the game's release...  The game's coming out tomorrow, so there's no point in doing that now...

I'm not complaining, mind you.  Just wanna say this...
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Post by: nintendonut888 on May 25, 2013, 03:43:46 PM
Late new prediction!

In PMiSS, there was a section where various species and concepts were detailed that hadn't yet appeared in the series. As time has gone on, most new games since have revealed a new entry from this list:

Kappa
8 Million Gods
Celestial
Hermit
Divine Spirit

After Ten Desires revealed the divine spirits, the only entry left that has yet to have a part in a Touhou game is...Dragon God.

*SCARE CHORD*
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 03:47:14 PM
Well I for one am glad someone had the courage to say it.
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Post by: Kingault on May 25, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
Late new prediction!

In PMiSS, there was a section where various species and concepts were detailed that hadn't yet appeared in the series. As time has gone on, most new games since have revealed a new entry from this list:

Kappa
8 Million Gods
Celestial
Hermit
Divine Spirit

After Ten Desires revealed the divine spirits, the only entry left that has yet to have a part in a Touhou game is...Dragon God.

*SCARE CHORD*

Maybe the Hakurei God is the Dragon God!
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Post by: Tsalop on May 25, 2013, 03:59:33 PM
Maybe the Hakurei God is the Dragon God!
So tomorrow we see the most shocking revalation in the history of Touhou?
Meiling is the one and only goddess of Hakurei and became the gate guard of SDM so she could
watch over the Gensokyo in secrecy...
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Post by: Gray21oh on May 25, 2013, 04:20:20 PM
So tomorrow we see the most shocking revalation in the history of Touhou?
Meiling is the one and only goddess of Hakurei and became the gate guard of SDM so she could
watch over the Gensokyo in secrecy...
Or y'know Meiling is Meiling and that the silhouette character will be different, which they could either already exist or just be somebody that's already in the series that hasn't got any big moment.
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
The final boss of HM was already revealed. Behold, from cuc's ZUN status updates thread:

(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad70/cucuct/forum%20posts/f90ba9d3fd1f41341715e438241f95cad1c85e6f_zps25245dc7.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2gTYhSp.jpg)

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Post by: Kazami on May 25, 2013, 05:37:54 PM
The final boss of HM was already revealed. Behold, from cuc's ZUN status updates thread:

(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad70/cucuct/forum%20posts/f90ba9d3fd1f41341715e438241f95cad1c85e6f_zps25245dc7.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2gTYhSp.jpg)
Crystal seraph wings, short hair, ribbon.
Cirno confirmed for final boss.  :V
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Post by: Clarste on May 25, 2013, 05:40:29 PM
Also:Thank you. This is like, the most important thing to keep in mind whenever someone is confronted with something in Gensokyo that would not apply in the outside world: Gensokyo has its own rules, and we can look at stuff that has happened previously in Gensokyo for hints as to how they operate still (see: Meiling, Hong).
Sure, if we decide to completely ignore things like WaHH and FS which show us more ordinary people's reactions to youkai. The temple is at least somewhat popular, so it's pretty obvious that Kyouko isn't supposed to be attacking every random guest. That's the kind of thing that would give them a bad reputation. And when youkai do harm humans people make a big deal out of it.
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Post by: The Noodles Guy on May 25, 2013, 05:57:04 PM
CIRNO FOR FINAL BOSS!?

That would be great.
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 06:05:05 PM
Sure, if we decide to completely ignore things like WaHH and FS which show us more ordinary people's reactions to youkai. The temple is at least somewhat popular, so it's pretty obvious that Kyouko isn't supposed to be attacking every random guest. That's the kind of thing that would give them a bad reputation. And when youkai do harm humans people make a big deal out of it.

At this point I'm really not sure what sort of point you're trying to prove here. Kyouko demonstrably acts like a "guard", even though - as I've said repeatedly - she is not one, and is probably not supposed to act like one, either. So we're in agreement. Are you like, trying to find arguments where there are none, or do you just enjoy splitting hairs down to their subatomic level? Either way, dude, it's kinda tiresome and you should maybe stop beating this dead horse and enjoy the soon-to-come joyous event of one full game and one demo.



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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 25, 2013, 08:07:42 PM
One more day one more day one more day cooooooooooooome oooooooooooooooooon!!!!  :getdown: -> >:(

Edit: UH is it out already, I see a patch for it already, can someone confirm?

http://www.tasofro.net/main.html
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 09:32:48 PM
Edit: UH is it out already, I see a patch for it already, can someone confirm?

http://www.tasofro.net/main.html

Like we covered, Tasofro discovered a major bug, and have created a patch for it. The game isn't out yet.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 25, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Like we covered, Tasofro discovered a major bug, and have created a patch for it. The game isn't out yet.
Thank you for the confirmation, Tengu now I can rest my nerves easily.  :derp:
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Post by: Clarste on May 25, 2013, 11:11:32 PM
At this point I'm really not sure what sort of point you're trying to prove here. Kyouko demonstrably acts like a "guard", even though - as I've said repeatedly - she is not one, and is probably not supposed to act like one, either. So we're in agreement. Are you like, trying to find arguments where there are none, or do you just enjoy splitting hairs down to their subatomic level? Either way, dude, it's kinda tiresome and you should maybe stop beating this dead horse and enjoy the soon-to-come joyous event of one full game and one demo.
I just disagree with the assertion that "acting like a guard" means attacking guests randomly. She's "acting like a youkai" which is a completely and totally different matter.

IE: I don't think Kyouko was acting like a guard, therefore I disagree with you entirely.
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Post by: Edible on May 25, 2013, 11:15:06 PM
She just shouts at people and bullets come out :(
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 11:24:26 PM
I just disagree with the assertion that "acting like a guard" means attacking guests randomly.
I get that, and I get that you like to repeat it, a lot. I just think it's a weird point to nitpick about but hey, you can rest satisfied that you hold the true definition of guarding. None shall question your authority on that subject, ever again. If anyone has a question as to what it means, we can refer to you. Thanks very much for the valuable service you provide.
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Post by: Clarste on May 25, 2013, 11:27:51 PM
I'm the one who said "Let's agree to disagree" on the previous page, and then you brought it up again in a snarky remark to someone else, in a way that seemed to be missing my point. Then you asked me to explain my point so I explained. I can certainly sympathize with the desire to get the last word in on any subject, but it seems to me that you're the one who refuses to let this go?
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 11:30:50 PM
I'm the one who said "Let's agree to disagree" on the previous page
And then later returned today to repeat yourself. After which I said again, let's move on. Prompting you to repeat yourself again. I mean, I do know how to read.

You have asserted your superior knowledge of what guarding entails, it is recognized. Consider your authority on that matter unchallenged.
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Post by: Clarste on May 25, 2013, 11:33:35 PM
And then later returned today to repeat yourself. After which I said again, let's move on. Prompting you to repeat yourself again. I mean, I do know how to read.

You have asserted your superior knowledge of what guarding entails, it is recognized. Consider your authority on that matter unchallenged.
I returned to respond to your comment on the subject, in a slightly different direction (in regards to the nature of human and youkai relationships). Apparently when other people agree with you it's okay to keep the topic going, but when they disagree they're getting needlessly repetitive?
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Post by: Edible on May 25, 2013, 11:35:17 PM
Oh my god both of you shut up
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Post by: Fonzi on May 25, 2013, 11:36:51 PM
Well, this is entertaining... *munches popcorn* They ought to put you two into the playable roster of TH 13.5
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Post by: Validon98 on May 25, 2013, 11:38:22 PM
Agreed. She's a youkai, she was just sweeping, and she ended up fighting the heroine because the end of a stage demands a boss.
Hey, guess what? The gate of the convention are probably going to open soon, so let's set our hype meters to MAXIMUM HYPE and wait for HM (and the DDC demo).
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 11:41:06 PM
Well, this is entertaining... *munches popcorn* They ought to put you two into the playable roster of TH 13.5
I'm just a background character, unfortunately. I wasn't even in the last fighting game. Besides which my usual fighting game style is AAAA AAAA AAAAAAAAAA B AAAAA *quit*
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Post by: Hinacle on May 25, 2013, 11:41:28 PM
Agreed. She's a youkai, she was just sweeping, and she ended up fighting the heroine because the end of a stage demands a boss.
Hey, guess what? The gate of the convention are probably going to open soon, so let's set our hype meters to MAXIMUM HYPE and wait for HM (and the DDC demo).
In almost 2 hours. :D

Mima for 13.5 TLB. Calling it. You have to capture every card and not use a single spellcard and you can only have 5 hit combos. Every hit has to be a 5 hit combo.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 25, 2013, 11:44:20 PM
I wonder what the single player is like. We haven't heard any news about that, have we? "Capturing spellcards" assumes it will be like IaMP and SWR. Although I certainly hope it is.
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Post by: Fonzi on May 25, 2013, 11:45:06 PM
Mima fans sure don't give up easily. I sympathize with you, but I wouldn't put my hopes up too high about her revival.
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Post by: Tengukami on May 25, 2013, 11:55:58 PM
Mima fans sure don't give up easily. I sympathize with you, but I wouldn't put my hopes up too high about her revival.
I don't understand. I mean, she's definitely coming back this time. Didn't you see the thread title?
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 12:00:00 AM
Don't forget about the SHINKIrou part of the game. Shinki and Mima fought? Helloooooo? What else could be mean besides this game being Mima'd? All the signs are there, you just have drink a bit of vodka (mima's favorite drink in canon) and squint a bit.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Lukesky180 on May 26, 2013, 12:00:22 AM
The gates of Reitaisai open at 10:00 AM in Japan, right? Well, that's about only an hour left!
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 12:04:10 AM
The gates of Reitaisai open at 10:00 AM in Japan, right? Well, that's about only an hour left!

10:30 to be exact.
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Post by: Lukesky180 on May 26, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
Thank you! That makes it about one more hour and thirty minutes! So hyped up!

EDIT: Hasty translation of the patch notes:
Downloading this file will upgrade your version of the game.
Run 'th135_update_101.exe
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 26, 2013, 12:09:20 AM
Oh, you can download the day 0 patch now? Better get that done before their servers start exploding.
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 12:11:51 AM
Oh, you can download the day 0 patch now? Better get that done before their servers start exploding.

I made a mirror on MEGA for when the servers explode. (https://mega.co.nz/#!pIV1BbrA!Er-pvUvfp0VgJ2QH7cjVCHYaQqpcb6DlF9Vw5Zazjcg)

This is allowed, right? Since it's just a patch?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Lukesky180 on May 26, 2013, 12:15:14 AM
Apparently the patch does nothing unless it is in the directory of the game itself.

Smart Tasofro. Looks like the Hisoutensoku Patch Incident (where they found Namazu) won't happen again here.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Sungho on May 26, 2013, 12:16:16 AM
What happened then?

Wonder how fast artwork will appear.
Someone will have to rush to Tasofro's booth, buy the game, and then open up a laptop and either play through story mode or rip the files to be the fastest.

And also looking forward to Mamizou's new theme, if there is one.
If it's an arrange of Futatsuiwa from Sado, I will be a bit disappointed, unless Mamizou isn't the penultimate boss.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 26, 2013, 12:19:59 AM
You want a new song then? Or an arrange of her stage theme? Although personally I'd love to hear a version of Futatsuiwa from Sado.
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Post by: Sungho on May 26, 2013, 12:23:04 AM
Something like Yukari's th075 theme. Although I will be only a bit disappointed if it wasn't the case. A arrange of Futatsuiwa from Sado is also fine.

EDIT : Still have to remind myself the difference between remix and arrangement.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Fonzi on May 26, 2013, 12:23:58 AM
Quote
I don't understand. I mean, she's definitely coming back this time. Didn't you see the thread title?

Thread name is one thing and reality is another. I didn't read it all, though. I suppose you have this info from a reliable source.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Zil on May 26, 2013, 12:31:21 AM
Yeah Mima's in it. No doubt about it.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 12:33:40 AM
Ammy made the thread and put "Countdown to Mima" in the title. Seems like a reliable and trustworthy source. I've had this feeling for a while, but I think Ammy might be psychic.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 12:35:10 AM
Mmm.... Not sure how I feel about Mima coming back.
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Post by: Fonzi on May 26, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
Quote
Yeah Mima's in it. No doubt about it.

Source plox? (yeah I saw a couple of pics on Danbooru with Mima, but I have my doubts about them) Not that I'm not looking forward to her. We shall see soon enough.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 26, 2013, 12:37:16 AM
I feel terrible ruining it, but in the interest of unconfusing people, it's a joke. Mima may or may not be showing up, but the title of the thread is a joke.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Genso on May 26, 2013, 12:37:27 AM
Some Mima would be nice, though personally I prefer seeing a new character added to the Touhou-verse.
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Post by: Alicirno on May 26, 2013, 12:39:54 AM
I'd like to see a Twilight Spark LW. And returning Mr. Ghosty in the form of a Mima special.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 26, 2013, 12:41:07 AM
I'd like to see a Twilight Spark LW. And returning Mr. Ghosty in the form of a Mima special.
Twilight Spark is from Touhou Soccer. I don't believe Mima's ever had anything to do with sparks or even giant lasers. Marisa stole that spell from Yuuka.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Fonzi on May 26, 2013, 12:41:46 AM
Well if a shy kappa and a mindless, thoughtless satori made it to a fighting game about a religion war, I wouldn't be surprised by anyone's appearance.
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Post by: Alicirno on May 26, 2013, 12:43:11 AM
Twilight Spark is from Touhou Soccer. I don't believe Mima's ever had anything to do with sparks or even giant lasers. Marisa stole that spell from Yuuka.

Oh, I'm fully aware of all that.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Jonath on May 26, 2013, 12:48:09 AM
(http://puu.sh/31c5q.png)

That noh mask in the patch... I wonder if it means something about the boss.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Sungho on May 26, 2013, 12:52:02 AM
I would rather read about how CAVE games are better than Touhou games than read jokes about how Mima is supposed appear in the next game.
It lacks any sort of intelligence. I would actually start to believe the jokes just so I could believe that there aren't any dumb people in this forum.

I think th135 is the first official work that uses the term 'Last Word' after th08.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Lukesky180 on May 26, 2013, 12:55:53 AM
(http://puu.sh/31c5q.png)

That noh mask in the patch... I wonder if it means something about the boss.
It's probably those masks in the silhouette.
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Post by: Limian on May 26, 2013, 01:01:11 AM
Twilight Spark is from Touhou Soccer. I don't believe Mima's ever had anything to do with sparks or even giant lasers. Marisa stole that spell from Yuuka.
For what it's worth, Mima had Earth Light Ray/Shoot the Moon lasers in her HRtP fight.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Gray21oh on May 26, 2013, 01:03:48 AM
So much Mima is going on here. At this rate she should have her own cereal.
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 01:04:14 AM
It's probably those masks in the silhouette.

I'm now picturing them swaying back and forth to a happy song. Doesn't stop them from being any less scary D:
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Post by: Savory on May 26, 2013, 01:05:38 AM
(http://puu.sh/31c5q.png)

That noh mask in the patch... I wonder if it means something about the boss.

It's Golden Diva from Wario Land.
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Post by: The Krve on May 26, 2013, 01:06:13 AM
Quick time check on Japan here.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=248
BTW , is there a stream for the event ?
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Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on May 26, 2013, 01:17:30 AM
I would much rather have Yuuka come back to be honest.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Lukesky180 on May 26, 2013, 01:25:17 AM
I'm now picturing them swaying back and forth to a happy song. Doesn't stop them from being any less scary D:
Nope. ;w;
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 26, 2013, 01:26:24 AM
Since the Japanese are already figuring it out, there's no point in delaying.

The patch contains script files. A lot can be inferred from them.

Hata no Kokoro
The Expressive Poker Face

She's "mereiki", a tsugumogami of the legendary kagura/noh masks of Hata no Kawakatsu.

She has 66 masks. The "mask of hope" was lost, causing her to go insane.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Lukesky180 on May 26, 2013, 01:30:46 AM
Oh my goodness. "Poker Face"
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Ikari on May 26, 2013, 01:31:13 AM
Final boss is Lady Gaga.

Calling it.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 01:31:21 AM
Since the Japanese are already figuring it out, there's no point in delaying.

The patch contains script files. A lot can be inferred from them.

Hata no Kokoro
The Expressive Poker Face

She's "mereiki", a tsugumogami of the legendary kagura/noh masks of Hata no Kawakatsu.

She has 66 masks. The "mask of hope" was lost, causing her to go insane.

I can't. I'm gonna die. Oh god, I can't wait for the batshit cray cray artwork of her.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: trancehime on May 26, 2013, 01:33:05 AM
yeah guys those weird objects circling the figure in the silhouette are in fact masks.

not fireballs or ghosts or whatever.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 01:33:12 AM
Huh. Now Hopeless Masquerade as a title makes sense.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Genso on May 26, 2013, 01:33:52 AM
Isn't Reitaisai opening now?

EDIT: forget that, was too excited and didn't read the whole thing.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Lukesky180 on May 26, 2013, 01:35:23 AM
Isn't Reitaisai opening now? Also I'm guessing her name comes from the word Hatamen.
I sure Hope Reitaisai IS opening. I don't want to become Hopeless too...
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: cuc on May 26, 2013, 01:52:59 AM
I forgot to mention, it's thanks to Mauve I can read it.

Also, seems the masks were made by
Miko
.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Lukesky180 on May 26, 2013, 01:54:38 AM
Mauve?! This gives me Hope!
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Ikari on May 26, 2013, 01:54:58 AM
Also, seems the masks were made by
Miko
.

I think a new "It's a taoist conspiracy" meme is in order.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tengukami on May 26, 2013, 01:55:30 AM
Also, seems the masks were made by
Miko
.

That makes sense to me. It takes an old fashioned kinda gal.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 01:56:08 AM
Also, seems the masks were made by
Miko
.
DUN DUN DUUUUUUN!  :V
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 01:56:15 AM
I think a new "It's a taoist conspiracy" meme is in order.

Well, the events of each game these days causes the games afterwards, right? No freaking wonder that happened.
Still wondering what
having the mask related to Hope going missing
has anything to do with anything, though.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: trancehime on May 26, 2013, 01:57:19 AM
That makes sense to me. It takes an old fashioned kinda gal.

Hata has 66 masks. In the lore, Hata no Kawakatsu was asked by Prince Shotoku to perform 66 dramatic pieces to settle disputes and disturbances throughout Japanland. Prince Shotoku = Miko
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Post by: Tiamat on May 26, 2013, 02:01:50 AM
I believe in the lore, Shoutoku himself crafted those masks.(I could be wrong) So Miko crafting them is basically just doing what she did in the actual lore.
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 02:02:25 AM
Well that makes sense. Go mythology connections. Although I can't believe that wasn't one of the theories that was on the thread. Then again, I don't think anyone suspected
Miko
to be tied to this, huh?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Critz on May 26, 2013, 02:04:17 AM
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv139214344?ref=ser&zroute=search&orig_filter=&date=&keyword=%E4%BE%8B%E5%A4%A7%E7%A5%AD (http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv139214344?ref=ser&zroute=search&orig_filter=&date=&keyword=%E4%BE%8B%E5%A4%A7%E7%A5%AD)

*Waits warmly*
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 26, 2013, 02:08:08 AM
cuc tells me that Mamizou has also been confirmed by the same source?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 02:09:39 AM
Wasn't Mamizou already confirmed from an earlier datamine, though?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: trancehime on May 26, 2013, 02:10:31 AM
I believe in the lore, Shoutoku himself crafted those masks.(I could be wrong) So Miko crafting them is basically just doing what she did in the actual lore.

I think I forgot that particular detail. But it stands to reason that the connection between the two is probably going to be evident in the game. Just enjoy it.

Well that makes sense. Go mythology connections. Although I can't believe that wasn't one of the theories that was on the thread. Then again, I don't think anyone suspected
Miko
to be tied to this, huh?

The problem is not about
Miko
, but rather nobody suspected that the
new character would have little to do with masks
, the subtitle HOPELESS MASQUERADE considered...

cuc tells me that Mamizou has also been confirmed by the same source?

Mamizou I think was confirmed by a patch.

Wasn't Mamizou already confirmed from an earlier datamine, though?

That was speculation based on a demo hack.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 02:11:20 AM
And the trend continues.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 26, 2013, 02:12:39 AM
Wasn't Mamizou already confirmed from an earlier datamine, though?
It was strongly hinted, but that's not quite the same thing.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 02:15:00 AM
It was strongly hinted, but that's not quite the same thing.

To immediately ruin/kickstart the new thread, here's what is written in the winter demo:
bigname_01reimu
bigname_02marisa
bigname_03ichirin
bigname_04hijiri
bigname_05futo
bigname_06miko
bigname_07nitori
bigname_08koishi
bigname_09mamizou
bigname_10boss

There's also one artist Chabo on twitter, who animated a returning character, yet was surprised to see her not being revealed.

I don't think that's strongly hinting.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: trancehime on May 26, 2013, 02:17:28 AM
I don't think that's strongly hinting.

Placeholder filenames and code in .pak/script files/etc. in a demo game of all things doesn't necessarily mean it's 100% confirmed, because what you see in a demo may always have that slim chance of being revised or changed or edited.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Clarste on May 26, 2013, 02:19:12 AM
She could have been cut, for example.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 02:19:37 AM
Placeholder filenames and code in .pak/script files/etc. in a demo game of all things doesn't necessarily mean it's 100% confirmed, because what you see in a demo may always have that slim chance of being revised or changed or edited.

She could have been cut, for example.

Ah, crap that's right. Sorry.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tengukami on May 26, 2013, 02:25:11 AM
Hata has 66 masks. In the lore, Hata no Kawakatsu was asked by Prince Shotoku to perform 66 dramatic pieces to settle disputes and disturbances throughout Japanland. Prince Shotoku = Miko
Cool. One of the things I love about what ZUN does with Touhou is how he folds actual Japanese history, Japanese mythology, his own imagination and a lot of room for speculation together into this tasty waffle. It's great to have that in mind, and maybe less obvious to those of us who aren't well versed in early Japanese history - he's not pulling all this stuff out of nowhere. In cuc's thread over on TARC of ZUN's twitterings, he gushed like a fanboy over an old master historian he got a chance to meet. It's something I really admire; ZUN's narrative ability to blend historical facts with his personal fictions to create such a vibrant, living world.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Star King on May 26, 2013, 02:29:38 AM
The problem is not about
Miko
, but rather nobody suspected that the
new character would have little to do with masks
, the subtitle HOPELESS MASQUERADE considered...

Not true. IIRC cuc predicted it would be based on kagura/noh theatre, and also thought (possibly among others) the objects in the silhouette were masks.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Tiamat on May 26, 2013, 02:32:25 AM
I don't think anyone managed to reach the 66 masks shoutoku theory, though, but Cuc got really really close.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 02:35:03 AM
Cool. One of the things I love about what ZUN does with Touhou is how he folds actual Japanese history, Japanese mythology, his own imagination and a lot of room for speculation together into this tasty waffle. It's great to have that in mind, and maybe less obvious to those of us who aren't well versed in early Japanese history - he's not pulling all this stuff out of nowhere. In cuc's thread over on TARC of ZUN's twitterings, he gushed like a fanboy over an old master historian he got a chance to meet. It's something I really admire; ZUN's narrative ability to blend historical facts with his personal fictions to create such a vibrant, living world.

I couldn't agree more.  It makes me want to look up a lot of different things I wouldn't normally have even considered, just to find out about the lore behind a character.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 02:36:00 AM
I don't think anyone managed to reach the 66 masks shoutoku theory, though, but Cuc got really really close.

True. Yeah, no one had that specific theory, but masks were brought up at some point. Not surprising.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 26, 2013, 02:37:52 AM
So, the final boss, Hata no Kokoro, is a tsukumogami of noh masks, and she's one mask short of a full set, which is why she has gone insane...

*blinks*

Wait a sec. She's one mask short of a full set.

Why do I think that she's going to be a bit on the loopy side when you end up facing her?
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 26, 2013, 02:38:17 AM
... I am utterly mind blown. You think that the title would refer the events going on, but it is actually refering to one character. Or maybe hte title has double meaning, I don't know.

But where is my Christian character?
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Post by: Ikari on May 26, 2013, 02:39:11 AM
I bet she'll try to make a new mask out of the heroine's pretty face.

I'm actually excited at the idea of having a new character AND seeing its fighting playstyle in one game!
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Post by: Lukesky180 on May 26, 2013, 02:39:47 AM
... I am utterly mind blown. You think that the title would refer the events going on, but it is actually refering to one character. Or maybe hte title has double meaning, I don't know.

But where is my Christian character?
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 02:40:11 AM
... I am utterly mind blown. You think that the title would refer the events going on, but it is actually refering to one character. Or maybe hte title has double meaning, I don't know.

But where is my Christian character?

Yeah, it's literally a masquerade without a mask of hope. ^^;
Also, have you looked at The Last Comer yet?

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Or Michel Sant'Angelo. Or Mikaboshi Mumumu. Any of them, really. ^^;
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Post by: trancehime on May 26, 2013, 02:45:30 AM
Not true. IIRC cuc predicted it would be based on kagura/noh theatre, and also thought (possibly among others) the objects in the silhouette were masks.

How long ago was that? :P It was probably not so long ago, I was referring to initial speculations from last week.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on May 26, 2013, 02:45:43 AM
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv139218124?ref=ser&zroute=search&keyword=%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E5%BF%83%E7%B6%BA%E6%A5%BC

HM stream is up on Nicovideo! Get your seats!
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Post by: Clarste on May 26, 2013, 02:46:01 AM
How long ago was that? :P It was probably not so long ago, I was referring to initial speculations from last week.
It was about when the silhouette on the cover was first released.
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Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 26, 2013, 02:48:06 AM
... I am utterly mind blown. You think that the title would refer the events going on, but it is actually refering to one character. Or maybe hte title has double meaning, I don't know.


I think that you're right. The title does seem to have a double meaning...

...double meaning...

(Cue thoughts on how HM and TH14 are connected somehow...)

I bet she'll try to make a new mask out of the heroine's pretty face.

I'm actually excited at the idea of having a new character AND seeing its fighting playstyle in one game!

Well, it would be rather shocking, although that would be on par with being a youkai. A "Mask of Hope" might even end up being created on it's own in the end, should things end well(and given that it's a Touhou game, ending well is kinda a given)...
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 02:48:10 AM
Thanks for the stream link.  I know what I'll be doing tonight.
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Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on May 26, 2013, 02:48:27 AM
I hope they fixed whatever the hell is going on in the second demo of the game. Spell card names are all random gibberish and used to display properly and spell cards have a nice little 20fps lag in them.

None of that shit happened in the first demo. (spell names were displayed with japanese font and spell cards didn't lag at all)
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 02:48:39 AM
Watching now! Looks like we're looking at story mode here! I like the newspaper effect for the stage endings.
Also, it looks like the story mode format's pretty much the same as SWR and Soku.
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Post by: Giratina93 on May 26, 2013, 02:49:01 AM
Oh gosh... Nitori coming in on her own personal helicopter of awesome... And nice remix of her theme as well... I am liking this.
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Post by: Formless God on May 26, 2013, 02:50:12 AM
>not The Gensokyo The Gods Loved
Fug
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Post by: Ikari on May 26, 2013, 02:51:25 AM
Well it would be rather shocking, although that would be on par with being a youkai. A "Mask of Hope" might even end up being created on it's own in the end, should things end well(and given that it's a Touhou game, ending well is kinda a given)...

I was joking. I bet it'll be created from the hopes and dreams of the character she fought, and cause her to become herself again.
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 02:52:01 AM
Oh gosh... Nitori coming in on her own personal helicopter of awesome... And nice remix of her theme as well... I am liking this.

I thought the exact same thing when I saw her enter.  Nitori just got even more amazing.
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Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 26, 2013, 02:54:20 AM
...and I'l just wait until people start posting stuff on YouTube. (Can't watch stream due to bad connection issues)

I was joking. I bet it'll be created from the hopes and dreams of the character she fought, and cause her to become herself again.

That's what I meant from my second line, actually.
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 02:54:20 AM
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv139218124?ref=ser&zroute=search&keyword=%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E5%BF%83%E7%B6%BA%E6%A5%BC

HM stream is up on Nicovideo! Get your seats!
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/293/590/6f6.gif)

Just jumped in at Miko's part.
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 02:54:40 AM
Aww... Koishi looked really cute when she got defeated~. ^^;
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Post by: Shikieiki on May 26, 2013, 02:55:25 AM
Ohmigosh that True Administrator remix.
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Post by: Star King on May 26, 2013, 02:56:03 AM
How long ago was that? :P It was probably not so long ago, I was referring to initial speculations from last week.

Check reply # 572 to the previous thread. cuc predicted like everything on May 11. Including the Shotoku masks thing, which some people are saying nobody predicted, but this is also wrong.

Quote
Touhou 14 is announced, but the discussion here shouldn't stop. The same Japanese fan who pointed out about Ise-katagami has some fun theories.

http://www.nebuta.or.jp/archive/ogata/h23/ryoyukai.html
First of all, unlikely to have anything to do with HM's real story, here's a cool painting of a samurai general (Tamuramaro) with 7 divine-gifted oni masks hovering around him.

About the new character, he thinks she's based on Hata no Kawakatsu, who according to legend:

- may have come from China, claimed to be a descendant of the First Emperor of Qin;
- brought kagura into Japan;
- was favored by Shoutoku, and made masks for Shoutoku;
- was ancestor to the masters of noh theatre, including the greatest noh artist, Zeami;
- when people began worshipping a new god (which is in fact just a type of small worm), he suppressed this new religion;
- according to Zeami's book, he became a sennin (hermit), and is an avatar of Bishamoten who helped Shoutoku (the current wikipedia entry wrote his title as a god wrong, it should be 大荒大明神);
- Toriyama Sekien, that artist who loved inventing new youkai (you should really be familiar with this name by now), drew this image of Kawakatsu's mask becoming a mask youkai;
- was believed by a 20th century crazy man to be from a lost tribe of Israel.

Also, his name is mentioned by Cirno in FW.

OK, that's a whole lot of fun.

cuc for god tier
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 02:56:44 AM
I could not take Miko's defeated and spell card cut in serious!  :D
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 02:56:55 AM
This isn't Byakuren! It's Mamizou!
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 02:57:26 AM
Mamizou confirmed! :D
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 26, 2013, 02:57:34 AM
Mamizou is in!
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 02:57:59 AM
A Mamizou appears with a huge leaf hat.
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 02:58:21 AM
So all of those audience members were fake in that stage, huh? I was wondering what was up with them all being in a field like that.
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 02:58:44 AM
Well, I like this remix of Futatsiuwa From Sado a lot more than the one that player during Byakuren?'s fight.
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Post by: trancehime on May 26, 2013, 02:58:57 AM
Check reply # 572 to the previous thread. cuc predicted like everything on May 11. Including the Shotoku masks thing, which some people are saying nobody predicted, but this is also wrong.

cuc for god tier

ok, fair enough. Of course this also is indicative of how much I care about HM, that is to say not too much compared to the rest of you folks that I didn't bother to keep up with the thread. Haha.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 02:59:38 AM
Mamizou's theme seems fun to fight to <3
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Post by: Formless God on May 26, 2013, 02:59:43 AM
I'll hate Tasofro forever if there isn't a remix of Cosmic Mind.
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 03:00:01 AM
The NIGHT PARADE!? Damn it, that was foreshadowed beautifully!
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Post by: Ikari on May 26, 2013, 03:00:13 AM
I'll hate Tasofro forever if there isn't a remix of Cosmic Mind.

Byakuren's theme; Remix of Shou/Murasa theme.

Because WHY NOT. <3
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 03:00:17 AM
Night Parade...
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 03:00:20 AM
Love Mamizou's new hat.
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Post by: Black Mage on May 26, 2013, 03:00:56 AM
Anyone managed to snap a shot of Mamizous' portraits?

Imgur has failed me on this one.
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 03:01:33 AM
Every one has noh masks on... well HELLO THERE PERSON!
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 03:01:38 AM
That final boss looks cute :D
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 03:01:54 AM
Hatano Kokoro?
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 03:02:17 AM
HI THERE KOKORO HOW'S IT GOING YOU'RE EVENT THEME IS CREEPING ME OUT!
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 03:02:51 AM
Like the touch of having the masks show the final boss's emotions instead of her own face.
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Post by: Formless God on May 26, 2013, 03:03:38 AM
Waifu, do not steal (http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249018_4209703501208_1896628894_n.jpg)
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 03:04:48 AM
He missed his Last Word, aww...
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 26, 2013, 03:04:55 AM
Huge ass flame lazor!
ANd last spell is hectic!
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 03:05:25 AM
Re-stream? All seats are taken D:
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 03:05:56 AM
Yuugi?

I'm guessing they cut the stream to hide the ending.
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 03:06:55 AM
Well, that's over now. I'm a little disappointed with the lack of a kickass last spell like the last two fighting games, but oh well.
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 03:07:16 AM
Can anyone summarize what happened? ;~;
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 03:07:44 AM
The guy completed Marisa's story mode. I was only around from Miko (4th-to-last) onwards.
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 03:08:35 AM
The guy played with Marisa and fought Reimu, Nitori, Koishi, Miko, "Byakuren," Mamizou, and the final boss (Kokoro) in that order. That's pretty much it.
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Post by: Tiamat on May 26, 2013, 03:08:57 AM
Aw, that last boss is adorable.  ...course, maybe she originally wasn't supposed to look so loli, considering that EVERYONE in HM is done in ridiculously loli-tastic art style.
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 03:10:37 AM
When you're one of the first people in there, then your internet screws up right after Mamizou so you can't see anything and all the seats are taken when you try to get back in.

Immeasurable
Salt
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Post by: Tengukami on May 26, 2013, 03:10:46 AM
Heh, looks like I forgot my Nico log-in details. And for some reason, the Redirector isn't handling the stream URL, so - looks like I'll be turning to YouTube once again.

DAMN YOU, GOOGLE! You always get your way in the end, don't you!
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Post by: Black Mage on May 26, 2013, 03:10:58 AM
Was that really a Mr. Hat spellcard in Koishi's deck?

Guess it really was a friend.

Are there any notable differences in the gameplay in the full release from what you guys saw?
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 03:12:00 AM
Welp, stream's over and I didn't get to hear Hartmann's Youkai Girl or Candid Friend. What a waste. :(
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Post by: Mesarthim on May 26, 2013, 03:12:14 AM
I only caught half of the Miko fight, Byakuren, Mamizou, and the last boss (whose theme I did enjoy I might add).
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Post by: Smashy on May 26, 2013, 03:12:32 AM
Aw, that last boss is adorable.  ...course, maybe she originally wasn't supposed to look so loli, considering that EVERYONE in HM is done in ridiculously loli-tastic art style.

loli-tastic portrait

Not so much on the sprites.

(See: Byakuren)
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 03:13:10 AM
I didn't see any Mamizou morphs...
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 03:13:31 AM
Mamizou morphed from Byakuren, I believe.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 03:14:18 AM
I got to say I only got in the stream when he was fighting Reimu well finishing up the fight. Marisa seems to be a fast character to take down stuff or is it the fact the guy had a good setup for her. The last boss looked cute~!
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 03:14:35 AM
Mamizou morphed from Byakuren, I believe.

Yep. Although you could tell it was Mamizou because one version of her theme was playing.
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Post by: Star King on May 26, 2013, 03:14:43 AM
When you're one of the first people in there, then your internet screws up right after Mamizou so you can't see anything and all the seats are taken when you try to get back in.

Immeasurable
Salt


Welp, stream's over and I didn't get to hear Hartmann's Youkai Girl or Candid Friend. What a waste. :(

I only caught half of the Miko fight, Byakuren, Mamizou, and the last boss (whose theme I did enjoy I might add).

You guys were lucky to get in at all. Yeah I mad >:(
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Post by: 日巫子 on May 26, 2013, 03:14:51 AM
I doodled a quick thing (spoilers?) (http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa416/sanakoi/hatanokokoro_zps368da363.png)
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 03:15:09 AM
Mamizou morphed from Byakuren, I believe.
I meant mid-fight ;)

I figured everyone in that round was a tanuki.
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Post by: Giratina93 on May 26, 2013, 03:15:17 AM
I managed to catch the last bit of the Reimu fight, and then everything from then on.  I will say, I do enjoy seeing how this game turned out to be. Lack of an epic final spell for our mask girl is... a little disappointing, but everything else was perfect. All the arrangements sounded pleasant, and the battles  looked smooth and very well done. Plus, Mamizou's Night Parade Spell... no one was expecting that, now were they?

Now to wait for the music to get loaded up onto Youtube and fanart to come flooding in...
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Post by: Mesarthim on May 26, 2013, 03:15:22 AM
I should've taken more or saved them but I took a screenie of mamizou.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/Frelia/Mamizou2_zps509653bc.png)
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Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 26, 2013, 03:16:23 AM
...and now I'm glad that I didn't see it, because I can actually wait for YouTube vids, rather than go nuts about being cut off from the stream.
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 03:16:58 AM
The Night Parade spell was awesome. Nice job getting that foreshadowed in FS beforehand, ZUN.  ;)
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 03:17:12 AM
Damn someone's fast.  Hata no Kokoro already has an entry at the tropes page.
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 03:18:19 AM
Imma wait till a MMD model comes out then make her dance Poker Face  :getdown:
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Post by: Ciel on May 26, 2013, 03:18:45 AM
So... It isn't Mima, I guess. 8D;

But I took a brief glimpse at the screenshots. The layout for the speech bubbles are all vertical.

Here's hoping they are easy to edit for the translation team. ._.;
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Post by: Validon98 on May 26, 2013, 03:19:03 AM
Someone also set up a "Windows 3" page for DDC. Well, considering HM should be wrapping up the religion thing, it makes sense that we're entering a new arc.
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 03:20:15 AM
Never deny that Touhou fans are both dedicated and fast.  I remember literally seeing fanart of the 4 protagonists of Ten Desires before finding out about the game; I was wondering why they were in the same picture, then went to the wiki and found it.
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 03:20:34 AM
Someone also set up a "Windows 3" page for DDC. Well, considering HM should be wrapping up the religion thing, it makes sense that we're entering a new arc.
That, and I directed that bit.  I pointed out "Windows 2" was almost as large as "Windows 1", and put in the necessary bit for "Windows 3" and commented it out 'til it had something to fill it with.
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Post by: Tengukami on May 26, 2013, 03:21:16 AM
I should've taken more or saved them but I took a screenie of mamizou.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/Frelia/Mamizou2_zps509653bc.png)
As I hoped, this design has moved my opinion of Mamizou closer to the Approve column.
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Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 26, 2013, 03:22:20 AM
And I won't be surprised if the last boss's pic is posted up there by tomorrow afternoon, if not sooner.
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 03:23:20 AM
...and now I'm glad that I didn't see it, because I can actually wait for YouTube vids, rather than go nuts about being cut off from the stream.
I really hope that wasn't directed at someone  :V
So... It isn't Mima, I guess. 8D;
It'll be the first Touhou fighter with an Extra Stage and it'll have Mima?  :ohdear:
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Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 26, 2013, 03:25:57 AM
I really hope that wasn't directed at someone  :V

It wasn't. I was just annoyed from the fact that I have to wait a bit for actual vids of HM. Sorry for the vent out.
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 03:26:32 AM
How did story mode play? Were there any boss spellcards?
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 03:26:58 AM
Oh yeah, there were boss spellcards. I noticed the fights were a bit shorter though.
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Post by: Mesarthim on May 26, 2013, 03:27:56 AM
Well of course they're shorter, especially when the streamer did that uppercut hit while the boss was inbetween cards. Like two of those and the boss health went to the next spellcard.
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 26, 2013, 03:28:09 AM
Wrong thread, sorry.
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Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 26, 2013, 03:29:17 AM
Welp, first fan art of the mermaid has surfaced in Pixiv.
It has Yuyuko in it

Mermaid? What mermaid?

Wrong thread, sorry.

Oh, that's all right. You just surprised me is all.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 03:34:52 AM
Obviously, the masks were laced with nanomachines that drove her insane. The hope mask had nanomachines that suppressed the insanity, but was lost.
Case closed.
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Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 26, 2013, 03:35:53 AM
Marisa Gear Solid, then?
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 03:38:30 AM
Marisa Gear Solid, then?

Yep, we all know that Liquid Ocelot's using Guns of the Patriots in DDC.
Also, Nitori's final smash... er... Last Word...
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 03:38:36 AM
The stream's back up, and it seems seats are still open, btw.

It's a Miko run.
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 03:39:56 AM
All seats now taken. FFFFFUUUUUUUU-

Edit: Iku and Tenshi now in Palanquin Ship background
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 03:43:57 AM
Something tells me I'll be trying to get in again all night.  Not that that'll be a bad way to spend my time.
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 03:44:03 AM
Miko has evil emperor laugh
Everyone run

Also swordlasers, fabulousness and, uh, normal swords.
Yeah, about half of her attacks are really weird and/or seemingly out-of-place, but then again, it's Miko.  :3
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Post by: monhan on May 26, 2013, 03:44:41 AM
Now there's Tenshi and Iku in Palanquin stage. Also, Cosmic Mind remix is nice.
It ends just as he was going to fight Byakuren. Cliffhanger much?
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 03:46:18 AM
Looks like it just suddenly ended during the Byakuren fight? .-.

Edit: Nvm, just stopped for a bit
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 03:47:19 AM
Miko can teleport with her cape?! What is this I don't even...  :V
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 03:48:08 AM
Jazzy Cosmic Mind remix. I like :D
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 03:48:19 AM
Miko or Futo should use "TAOOOOOOOO" as a battle cry, imo.
This is exciting.
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 03:49:16 AM
Miko can teleport with her cape?! What is this I don't even...  :V
Should we give her "Power to the extent of commanding space" or is that too low for Miko's standards?
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 03:50:38 AM
Mamizou mirror match GO!

OSHIT GIANT MIKO
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 03:52:00 AM
I'm loving all Miko's over the top movements in her portraits.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 03:52:31 AM
Solid Miko vs. Liquid Miko, eh?
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 03:52:37 AM
That laser is officially god tier in and of itself
Seriously, the damage.
The recovery.
The EVERYTHING.
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Post by: iospace on May 26, 2013, 03:53:18 AM
I'm hearing reports of a 0 day patch on the website, can anyone confirm this?
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 03:54:02 AM
I'm hearing reports of a 0 day patch on the website, can anyone confirm this?
http://www.tasofro.net/touhou135/index.html
> "東方心綺楼 修正パッチVer.1.01"
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 03:54:46 AM
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN MIKO'S LAST WORD!

Edit: Seems like the final boss switches to a different mask based on her emotions in her conversations with Miko, and from what I'm getting Miko was either trolling the boss or got spooked a bit.
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 03:55:14 AM
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN MIKO'S LAST WORD!
Just as I was thinking of Saber, the guy starts saying /that/.
Yeah.

EEEEXUUUUUUU--
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 03:58:55 AM
Is it just me, or does Story seem REALLY EASY, i just hope thats because he's playing on easy

Also anyone translated the name of the new character's theme yet?
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Post by: monhan on May 26, 2013, 03:59:57 AM
Solid Miko vs. Liquid Miko, eh?
What a coincidence. I was just watching the final fight of MGS4 while waiting  for the stream.

Also, Miko recognizes the mask.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 04:01:45 AM
What a coincidence. I was just watching the final fight of MGS4 while waiting  for the stream.

Also, Miko recognizes the mask.

I've been making MGS references in the stream.

"Is that Mokou" is my favorite quote from it so far.
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 04:02:33 AM
Legend of the Great Italian Gods 8D
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Post by: monhan on May 26, 2013, 04:02:58 AM
Is it just me, or does Story seem REALLY EASY, i just hope thats because he's playing on easy

Also anyone translated the name of the new character's theme yet?
He plays on  normal.
Now we go with Byakuren.
The first thing they notice is the jiggle physics and what's under her skirt...
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 04:04:31 AM
lol Byakuren TPing all over the place

Edit:
He plays on  normal.
Now we go with Byakuren.

Ah ok that explains it
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Post by: DSveno on May 26, 2013, 04:04:36 AM
Where are people watching their stream? The last link doesn't show anything to me =/.
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 04:04:55 AM
Now it's over here: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv139222240
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 04:06:57 AM
He plays on  normal.
Now we go with Byakuren.
The first thing they notice is the jiggle physics and what's under her skirt...

What's under it?

Anyway, Miko and Byakuren are now Jedi.
Cheers.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 04:09:41 AM
The first thing they notice is the jiggle physics and what's under her skirt...

lol I saw the jiggle physics too, but whats under the skirt?
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Post by: Giratina93 on May 26, 2013, 04:14:08 AM
Damnit, seats taken again!

Universe, be nice to me, please...
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 04:14:29 AM
I am amused that Miko's defeat animation has her headphones broken.  Dunno why but I am.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 04:15:07 AM
looks like he's restarting the stream
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 04:15:50 AM
It's just like Ten Desires, except instead of the heroine fighting Mamizou!Reimu, it's Byakuren.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 04:16:40 AM
streams back http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv139224433
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Post by: Star King on May 26, 2013, 04:16:48 AM
How do you find out where the most recent stream is when it moves

I NEED TO GET IN AT LEAST ONE C'MON UNIVERSE

EDIT: YES I GOT IN
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Post by: zferolie on May 26, 2013, 04:17:00 AM
for you guys who can't see the stream(like me who is at a hotel.) found this screencap

(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo143/rubini/976430_508786579187370_409548586_o1_zpsf491c4ee.jpg)
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Post by: monhan on May 26, 2013, 04:17:31 AM
What's under it?

Anyway, Miko and Byakuren are now Jedi.
Cheers.
No Pants?
What I meant is that's what they're focusing during the whole thing. Can't blame them, I mean, those legs...

And damn, Byakuren's spellcard is awesome! It's a counter move that activates with both physical and shot attacks, including boss spellcard.
Also, Toki she is. That's one glorious Jesus Beam!
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 04:17:41 AM
How do you find out where the most recent stream is when it moves

I NEED TO GET IN AT LEAST ONE C'MON UNIVERSE
When a stream is done, click on the guy's account and you'll see his broadcast.
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Post by: zferolie on May 26, 2013, 04:21:48 AM
anyone have a screenshot of the stages with tenshi and Iku?
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 04:23:36 AM
OH MY LORDY LORD BYAKURENS LAST WORD!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 04:24:13 AM
anyone have a screenshot of the stages with tenshi and Iku?
I'll take one next time he fights Ichirin/Mamizou Phase 1. I do have a screenshot of Giant Miko, though.
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 04:24:32 AM
All those lasers...wow Byakuren.
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Post by: SeasideCharizard on May 26, 2013, 04:24:57 AM
That Last Word pose...
...I get the feeling Kenshiro has returned with a giant quadruple Jesus Beam at his side (though Fantasy Nature was awesome enough)
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 04:25:52 AM
Wasn't Mamizou's final card foreshadowed in FS? There was a scroll named Night Parade or something?
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 04:26:08 AM
Wait... Nitori gets a copter, and both Liquid and Solid use a copter at some point...
I'm making connections where there are none.


Blast it, Kosuzu, you were supposed to stop using that scroll.
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Post by: Tsalop on May 26, 2013, 04:27:56 AM
Just woke up... Reading this thread... Okay. Mamizou has a silly hat now and the final boss looks interesting.
BTW. Fans works fast.
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Post by: zferolie on May 26, 2013, 04:30:18 AM
I'll take one next time he fights Ichirin/Mamizou Phase 1. I do have a screenshot of Giant Miko, though.

Anyscreen shots would be great. My internet at this hotel is flacky a best, so can't watch stream. Plus I will not be able to play the game till I can somehow get a copy... i wish they would sell digital versions on their site...

EDIT: Also, I responded to you in my thread about those nendroids... even though I put the thread in the wrong area. where do we talk about them?
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 04:32:50 AM
He's doing Koishi and I never got to hear Hartmann's Youkai Girl. :(
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 04:33:17 AM
Oh my god, Koishi is adorable<3
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Post by: Black Mage on May 26, 2013, 04:34:24 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/sCQSUOl.gif)

Touhou has reached a new level.

Sillyness aside, I really dig sprite based games.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 04:34:39 AM
Oh man, Koishi's a Jedi as well?
Also, you just got your wish!
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 04:35:09 AM
It's official

Mind lazers are now cannon!

Also LOL IT CRASHED XD
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 26, 2013, 04:35:20 AM
Game crashed when training with Koishi. DAMN YOU
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 04:35:38 AM
Touhou Religion Arc Episode 6: Return of the Shrine Maiden and Friends
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 04:35:44 AM
Since I was so busy during the last Palace of Earth Spirits stage visit, I didn't notice, but Satori's pets are spectating as well.
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Post by: monhan on May 26, 2013, 04:36:02 AM
Too bad I didn't get to see her Last Word. Well, I'll get to use it as much as I want when it arrived.
Also, I guess it's clear enough that Byakuren learned Hokuto Shinken during her time in Makai. She's a glorious combination of Ken, Toki, and Shin from what we've seen.

He does Koishi now? How come I missed this?
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 26, 2013, 04:36:22 AM
Nitori Time
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 04:37:09 AM
All the seats are full and the stream crapped out :(

Guess I'll have to wait until Youtube videos are uploaded or I can get out of my budget and afford the game.
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 04:37:34 AM
And Nitori has a lot of arsenal...watery arsenal.

EDIT:  And the Kappa have fireworks now.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 04:39:53 AM
So... copter... optical camo... grenade launcher... variety of weapons...
Pro at hiding...
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 04:39:57 AM
Welp, good night everyone. I can't get a seat in the stream despite reloading CONSTANTLY and it's almost 10:00 where I live. Hopefully Youtube vids will be up by tomorrow. Good night.
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 04:41:35 AM
YOU CAN FLY NATURALLY NITORI. STOP SHOWING YOUR TECH OFF, YA NERD.

Welp, good night everyone. I can't get a seat in the stream despite reloading CONSTANTLY and it's almost 10:00 where I live. Hopefully Youtube vids will be up by tomorrow. Good night.

G'nite
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Post by: Rei Scarlette on May 26, 2013, 04:43:03 AM
Hey guys I---
Quote
Warning - while you were typing ## new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Over and over again :V Typing on PS Vita = lolslow.

Anyways now that I finally can post, it seems everything I was going to say has already been said. But still, Koishi.

Topic has exploded with activity as expected. Watching warmly as things happen
(http://i44.tinypic.com/bje35j.gif)
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Post by: Ciel on May 26, 2013, 04:43:27 AM
I'm actually really interested in Nitori out of all the characters. 8D Having a mechanic whiz playable sounds pretty nice to me.

That and Koishi!

Welp, good night everyone. I can't get a seat in the stream despite reloading CONSTANTLY and it's almost 10:00 where I live. Hopefully Youtube vids will be up by tomorrow. Good night.
Good night!
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Post by: Black Mage on May 26, 2013, 04:50:46 AM
YOU CAN FLY NATURALLY NITORI. STOP SHOWING YOUR TECH OFF, YA NERD.

G'nite

(http://i.imgur.com/XsYspA2.gif)

But everything looks better with copters.
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 04:50:51 AM
Waaait... Nitori, why do you use a copter when you can fly?
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 04:52:33 AM
That win pose...

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Post by: Black Mage on May 26, 2013, 04:55:17 AM
Waaait... Nitori, why do you use a copter when you can fly?

It's probably a ruse to increase the popularity of Kappa Tech.
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Post by: zferolie on May 26, 2013, 04:55:50 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/sCQSUOl.gif)

Touhou has reached a new level.

Sillyness aside, I really dig sprite based games.

She does not bounce like other characters do, haha.

(http://i.imgur.com/XsYspA2.gif)

But everything looks better with copters.

That is freaken awesom
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 04:56:08 AM
Nitori Drill Breaker, anyone?
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 04:58:15 AM
So for those who are buying the game, what site(s) will you be buying from that ship to the UK? I was gonna use https://ec.akgb.jp but for some reason when signing up, after selecting my countery, THEY DONT HAVE ANY SCOTTISH LOCATIONS FOR THE STATE FIELD! So now I'm stuck :/
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 04:58:36 AM
I'm 99% sure Giant Miko is a reference to how giant Miko's ego seems to be.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 05:00:15 AM
I'm 99% Giant Miko is a reference to how giant Miko's ego seems to be.

Want me to correct that post's grammar?


Anyway, I agree.
It makes sense. Perfect sense.
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 05:00:55 AM
Want me to correct that post's grammar?


Anyway, I agree.
It makes sense. Perfect sense.

Go ooooon, correct it.
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Post by: zferolie on May 26, 2013, 05:03:10 AM
So for those who are buying the game, what site(s) will you be buying from that ship to the UK? I was gonna use https://ec.akgb.jp but for some reason when signing up, after selecting my countery, THEY DONT HAVE ANY SCOTTISH LOCATIONS FOR THE STATE FIELD! So now I'm stuck :/

we can buy it there? Know what the price will be?
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 05:04:28 AM
I'm 99% sure Giant Miko is a reference to how giant Miko's ego seems to be.

There.
I swear,  thought you had forgotten the "seems". Guess my eyes were messing with me.
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 05:06:09 AM
There.
I swear,  thought you had forgotten the "seems". Guess my eyes were messing with me.

I leave out words when I type waaaay too often. Thanks! I fixed my original post now.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 05:06:24 AM
we can buy it there? Know what the price will be?

http://ec.akgb.jp/category/select/pid/11285/language/en/currency/USD
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 05:10:41 AM
Wow.  That finisher!
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 05:13:46 AM
Target practice anyone? XD
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Post by: zferolie on May 26, 2013, 05:14:39 AM
http://ec.akgb.jp/category/select/pid/11285/language/en/currency/USD

Awesome. Thats a good price, even if shipping is the price of the game. Ordering it now.
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 05:15:06 AM
Koishi Time

practice w/ a Satori palette
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 05:15:20 AM
And Koishi has a Satori pallet it seems.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 05:16:22 AM
Miko has a Byakuren palette I think clothes wise.
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Post by: Zakari on May 26, 2013, 05:18:25 AM
Good morning everyone!

and WHAT THE!!!!!!!!!!!?????????? MAMIZOU CONFIRMED!!!!????? THAT NEW GIRL LOOKS CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

damn i really missed the stream, i want to watch it but it`s already too late.
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Post by: Hinacle on May 26, 2013, 05:18:52 AM
OH SHIT FUCKING KOISHI AND HER ROSES
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 05:19:26 AM
lol dat last word  and its still goin http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv139229423?ref=community

Also still ned a site to buy HM from that ships to teh UK, Scotland in perticular :/

Edit: DANCE BYAKUREN DANCE!
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Post by: DSveno on May 26, 2013, 05:21:10 AM
He can't get enough Koishi and her rose, lolz.
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Post by: Giratina93 on May 26, 2013, 05:21:40 AM
Koishi... you give Yuuka a run for the scariest flower person around...
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Post by: LadyScarlet on May 26, 2013, 05:22:31 AM
Speaking of Yuka, BG Yuka in Yumedono Taishi confirmed!
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Post by: zferolie on May 26, 2013, 05:23:26 AM
lol dat last word  and its still goin http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv139229423?ref=community

Also still ned a site to buy HM from that ships to teh UK, Scotland in perticular :/

Edit: DANCE BYAKUREN DANCE!

It sucks not being able to watch the stream... stupid hotel internet... and my 4 g hot spot is not much better. Hope youtube videos are out soon.

Ah. They really need to invest in an online download.
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 05:23:57 AM
Dat Koishi victory pose!
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 05:24:14 AM
Cute Koishi win pose is cute!~
Edit: Oh snap Futo has brought out the boat!
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 05:25:21 AM
And Futo is using her boat.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 05:25:46 AM
Futo has a boat, eh?
Komachi has competition now.
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Post by: Zakari on May 26, 2013, 05:26:02 AM
lol dat last word  and its still goin http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv139229423?ref=community

Also still ned a site to buy HM from that ships to teh UK, Scotland in perticular :/

Edit: DANCE BYAKUREN DANCE!

Can`t watch it and i don`t have mobile devices :(
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Post by: Rei Scarlette on May 26, 2013, 05:27:29 AM
<---- The look on my face.

I knew it, this game is perfect.
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Post by: zferolie on May 26, 2013, 05:29:14 AM
Speaking of Yuka, BG Yuka in Yumedono Taishi confirmed!

I hope someone makes a big gif of all the backgrounds... or at least a video to show everyone off.

EDIT: And ordered. I wonder how long it will take for me to get this game...
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 05:31:16 AM
I just realized...the way Okuu waves her arm cannon around while spectating probably isn't the safest thing.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 05:31:59 AM
HM is also listed on http://www.paletweb.com/selectpage.asp?code=0007980 though its a bit more expensive than the other site, the ship everywhere it seems, although I have orderd it from there, I'm clueless to what you do after selecting the payment option as it never took me to a paypal page or anything when I selected paypal as my payment method so I'm kinda confused what to do next.
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Post by: zferolie on May 26, 2013, 05:36:29 AM
HM is also listed on http://www.paletweb.com/selectpage.asp?code=0007980 though its a bit more expensive than the other site, the ship everywhere it seems, although I have orderd it from there, I'm clueless to what you do after selecting the payment option as it never took me to a paypal page or anything when I selected paypal as my payment method so I'm kinda confused what to do next.

I used Palet web a few times to order some Plushies. I can't remember off the top of my head what you need to do next sadly. Maybe something is stopping Paypal from loading?
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Post by: Mesarthim on May 26, 2013, 05:39:08 AM
HM is also listed on http://www.paletweb.com/selectpage.asp?code=0007980 though its a bit more expensive than the other site, the ship everywhere it seems, although I have orderd it from there, I'm clueless to what you do after selecting the payment option as it never took me to a paypal page or anything when I selected paypal as my payment method so I'm kinda confused what to do next.

I've done various orders from paletweb. Basically once you are done ordering a billing mail gets sent later on that you pay with. From my experience the payment seems to have to be done manually unless things have changed since I last ordered from them.

edit: To be more clear, the billing mail tells you how much you'll be needing to send to paletweb. I usually leave a note for my order number or something along that line. Not the most professional of ordering systems but I've yet to experience problems with paletweb.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 05:41:51 AM
I've done various orders from paletweb. Basically once you are done ordering a billing mail gets sent later on that you pay with. From my experience the payment seems to have to be done manually unless things have changed since I last ordered from them.

is teh billing email titled "[Palet] Automatic mail for order check" or something else, because if so, I got pretty much instantly then
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Post by: Mesarthim on May 26, 2013, 05:45:07 AM
Uh, last time I ordered was apparently September 2011 but the last mail I received an invoice from paletweb with the price for me to pay. another time I had some kind of list of shipping methods and I'd just send payment in the form of (item price + shipping price = total) to paletweb via paypal.

Guess it seems different from the first time I used them. Just make sure you don't lose any of their mails while ordering.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 05:47:11 AM
Uh, last time I ordered was apparently September 2011 but the last mail I received an invoice from paletweb with the price for me to pay. another time I had some kind of list of shipping methods and I'd just send payment in the form of (item price + shipping price = total) to paletweb via paypal.

Guess it seems different from the first time I used them. Just make sure you don't lose any of their mails while ordering.

Ah ok, also it would help if I actually READ the mail instead of skimmed it as it cleary states "The details of dealings are explained by next bill mail." XD
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 05:48:02 AM
Futo's winning pose, sitting on a plate while laughing seems legit.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 06:13:02 AM
OH WOW, he caused the game to bug out when he used Futo's Last word during that one perticular spellcard XD
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 06:20:16 AM
Unzan's Punch Out!!
There.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 06:24:58 AM
LOL ORIN!

Just noticed her cheering animation XD
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 06:31:26 AM
LOL ORIN!

Just noticed her cheering animation XD
What is it?
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 06:33:39 AM
What is it?

Not sure how to describe it, but next time you see The Palace of the Earth Spirit look for her :V
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Post by: StratusAsterion on May 26, 2013, 06:34:05 AM
So....no Alice in the background? >.> this saddens me, but at least I still have Miko and Futo, Kokoro looks cute, also does anyone have a picture of the Satori pallete for Koishi?
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 06:36:16 AM
Unzan vs. Fish
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/063/7/3/PUNCH_A_FISH_IN_THE_FACE_by_Booter_Freak.png)
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Post by: Black Mage on May 26, 2013, 06:36:25 AM
So....no Alice in the background? >.> this saddens me, but at least I still have Miko and Futo, Kokoro looks cute, also does anyone have a picture of the Satori pallete for Koishi?

(http://i.imgur.com/qoHTzcH.jpg)

Look at the bright side, not being in the background only increases her chances as an downloadable or secret character.
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 06:36:45 AM
Mamizou Mirror Match Training.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 06:36:51 AM
Oh wow mamizou's Last Word XD dem sound effects!
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 06:37:03 AM
Wombo combo by Ichirin on the boss and he unlocked Mamizou and lol her last word! XD
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 06:37:37 AM
Dat Pot!

Lol Kogasa's Parasol
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Post by: StratusAsterion on May 26, 2013, 06:39:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/qoHTzcH.jpg)

Look at the bright side, not being in the background only increases her just as an downloadable or secret character.

I really hope your right XP

Now I wanna play as Koishi in this costume that is badass but so is alt Miko I'm really digging the sprite style
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 06:40:59 AM
Loving all Mamizou's tsukomogami based attacks.
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Post by: Black Mage on May 26, 2013, 06:42:03 AM
LOL ORIN!

Just noticed her cheering animation XD

(http://i.imgur.com/AnTetl2.gif)

Seriously, just what the heck is Orin trying to convey with that?
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 06:42:12 AM
Oh man, Blockhead from Okami.
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 06:54:57 AM
And Mamizou celebrates her win like any good resident of Gensokyo...she drinks.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 06:56:51 AM
And Mamizou celebrates her win like any good resident of Gensokyo...she drinks.
Like a bawse!
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Post by: Star King on May 26, 2013, 07:02:31 AM
Look at the bright side, not being in the background only increases her chances as an downloadable or secret character.

Now that I think about it, it seems REALLY suspicious to me that she's like the ONLY major Windows character that's doesn't appear in the background. Hm...

I would be pretty surprised to see someone outside of MoF-TD appear, though.

And yeah what's up with that Kogasa parasol Mamizou has?
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Post by: Rei Scarlette on May 26, 2013, 07:04:29 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/AnTetl2.gif)

Seriously, just what the heck is Orin trying to convey with that?

Looking at the animation, it can only remind me of "Satori Komeiji's Mental Education" when you get one character to the present, and they are waiting for the other(s) to get there as well. Koishi, Orin, and Okuu all do something sorta like that.

Probably no real connection though, just the first thing to come to mind.

Edit: No wait. Considering the two games, and the character in question... that might be intentional.
Hint: Satori Komeiji's Mental Education was also done by Tasofro.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 07:05:20 AM
Now that I think about it, it seems REALLY suspicious to me that she's like the ONLY major Windows character that's doesn't appear in the background. Hm...

I would be pretty surprised to see someone outside of MoF-TD appear, though.

And Mami's stage is boss is Koko/whatever... so...

Also, were you the one that said Star King > Big Boss in the stream comments?
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Post by: teefa85 on May 26, 2013, 07:08:11 AM
And teapot for the win.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 07:09:49 AM
Aw, was hoping Mami would get a special final boss.
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Post by: Star King on May 26, 2013, 07:12:03 AM
Also, were you the one that said Star King > Big Boss in the stream comments?

Maybe :P You're an observant one.

And I just noticed that on the character select screen column, Reimu still has her lighter eyes/no colored eyelashes from the first demo. Dat inconsistency.

I personally preferred the demo look, though obviously not a big deal.

Guessing the final boss for Kokoro will be Reimu, ala IaMP/PoFV
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 07:12:59 AM
Aw, was hoping Mami would get a special final boss.
That probably would be saved for Kokoro.
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 07:14:23 AM
That probably would be saved for Kokoro.

Mima.
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Post by: Zork787 on May 26, 2013, 07:18:04 AM
that the streaming done?
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Post by: Black Mage on May 26, 2013, 07:19:11 AM
So there's no Kokoro Story Mode?
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Post by: Kingault on May 26, 2013, 07:19:40 AM
Most likely it ended. Need sleep. See you in 3-4 hours.
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Post by: Aya Reiko on May 26, 2013, 07:20:40 AM
So there's no Kokoro Story Mode?
I think I saw her there, so I think so.

However she wasn't showing up in Practice Select.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on May 26, 2013, 07:22:59 AM
Sheesh looks like they might need to fix the practice mode for Kokoro,  :derp:
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Post by: trancehime on May 26, 2013, 07:23:25 AM
I think I saw her there, so I think so.

However she wasn't showing up in Practice Select.

Could be that you need to beat a story mode first.
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Post by: Genso on May 26, 2013, 07:55:54 AM
EDIT: Okay, wasn't exactly sure. Hopefully no one really saw it, haven't looked at the rules in forever (or even posted) :3. End up buying all the games myself since I love the series so much. Sorry for the trouble.
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Post by: Mesarthim on May 26, 2013, 08:12:53 AM
You aren't even supposed to hint at piracy if that's what you're getting at. That is listed in the forum rules.
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Post by: Sanger Zonvolt on May 26, 2013, 08:17:33 AM
Time to give Nitori a go.  :3
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Post by: Mesarthim on May 26, 2013, 08:22:36 AM
Due to the stream crapping out on me every so often the only characters I saw were Miko, Byakuren, Mamizou, (Reimu and Marisa is a given, and I am familiar with Ichirin from the first demo), and uhh... I don't really think I saw any other character in action other than the new final boss.

But I'll set aside my curiosity as I am in the process of moving. Won't even be able to place my HM order anywhere for at least a week. Sad times.
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Post by: monhan on May 26, 2013, 08:29:37 AM
Due to the stream crapping out on me every so often the only characters I saw were Miko, Byakuren, Mamizou, (Reimu and Marisa is a given, and I am familiar with Ichirin from the first demo), and uhh... I don't really think I saw any other character in action other than the new final boss.

But I'll set aside my curiosity as I am in the process of moving. Won't even be able to place my HM order anywhere for at least a week. Sad times.
I guess I'm lucky enough that I get to see everyone and their spell and LW, except for Byakuren(damn you, lag) and Kokoro(not unlocked yet).
Hope you still get one in stock, 'cause people have been ordering it left and right. I'm only worried whether my copy will arrive, maybe I should ask N-Forza about the shipping...
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 26, 2013, 08:32:45 AM
The first time I saw MamiKuren's boss spell card, I though she had hijacked Unzan.
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Post by: Garlyle on May 26, 2013, 08:51:49 AM
new character freaks me out

just saying

also mamizou's art is amazing and miko's defeated portrait is just the greatest thing
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Post by: Zakari on May 26, 2013, 08:58:20 AM
I downloaded the patch, and the game still crashes.

Help!
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Post by: Garlyle on May 26, 2013, 09:04:26 AM
I downloaded the patch, and the game still crashes.

Help!
Are you 100% sure it patched correctly?

If you moved the files from their original install location, then the patch doesn't actually work - the message it throws is "Couldn't find files".  It should say 1.01 up at the top if it worked.

Otherwise you're not the only one I know who's had this happen but hey
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Post by: Sanger Zonvolt on May 26, 2013, 09:08:21 AM
I downloaded the patch, and the game still crashes.

Help!
Using  Koishi? She seems to crash the game.
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Post by: ToyoRai on May 26, 2013, 09:10:46 AM
THe music rips have begun. First one I found was Cosmic Mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7loQeuD2sA
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Lightseeker on May 26, 2013, 09:12:33 AM
Apparently, Koishi still crashes the game even after you applied the patch.
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Post by: CyberAngel on May 26, 2013, 09:21:47 AM
THe music rips have begun. First one I found was Cosmic Mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7loQeuD2sA

I wasn't expecting being interested, but this... Wow... My hope is rekindled.
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 26, 2013, 09:25:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSL6XlSX_K4
one job tasofro
one job.
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Post by: chum on May 26, 2013, 09:26:16 AM
Apparently, Koishi still crashes the game even after you applied the patch.

Remove the Vine move and the game won't crash anymore.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Amraphenson on May 26, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Remove the Vine move and the game won't crash anymore.

what if the AI gets koishi
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Post by: AnonymousPondScum on May 26, 2013, 09:30:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSL6XlSX_K4
one job tasofro
one job.

Tasofro's always had somewhat glitchy coding, but...Yeah. They did so much right and yet so much very, very wrong.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: chum on May 26, 2013, 09:31:48 AM
what if the AI gets koishi

Fightans is for PVP, if you're playing against the AI then tough luck, bud
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Agent of the BSoD on May 26, 2013, 09:32:44 AM
I'm hearing a lot of people crashing everywhere. It's a common problem, especially with the final boss. Tasofro will probably release a patch shortly.
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Kirin no Sora on May 26, 2013, 09:38:57 AM
...but they already released one patch before the game came out. If that patch isn't fixing everything, then they'll have to send another...
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: ToyoRai on May 26, 2013, 09:40:46 AM
On happier news, True Administrator http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bWVrAT3sVQ
Title: Re: Touhou 13.5 東方心綺楼 Hopeless Masquerade: Countdown to Mima
Post by: Helepolis on May 26, 2013, 11:11:32 AM
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14812.0.html

Please continue here for the discussions.