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(http://puu.sh/h5598/b04e26c857.png)
We already had hints before, with ZUN tweeting a picture of an english option menu of the concerned game and DDC being put on digital purchase on Playism JP, but we now have real meat to put on our plates. Playism EN is officially bringing Touhou to the West. (http://playism-games.com/article/touhou-finally-coming-to-the-west)
If you don't know Playism, they are the ones who published games like La-Mulana, One-Way Heroics or Astebreed. They generally publish indie games, and do a really good job translating them to bring them outside of Japan. As such, translation, if it ever happen for this game, should be on point and respectful to the original, especially since they are working with Team Shanghai Alice. Also, since they mention this game as the "first" official release of an Touhou game outside of Japan, we may be seeing more in the future.
In other words, PLAYISM HYPE! (http://i.imgur.com/aJw7vbP.gif)
Their Twitter is over there. (https://twitter.com/playismEN)
(Feel free to slice me if I'm not allowed to make such a thread, but I felt it was important enough.)
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*screams like a fangirl*
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I'd say it's very important. This is what a lot of people have been asking for; and for ZUN to be stepping forward and allowing this to happen... it's pretty damn big~ <3
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Very exciting time. I'm particularly interested in translations overseen by ZUN, if that's actually a thing. The best translations are without question the ones with input from the author.
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We'll see how this turns out....
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Note that the article does not mention anything about it being localized or translated,
Just in case people might be curious as to how an english release would look, it might just be the regular JP version just being allowed to be sold legally in an Western outlet now.
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Note that the article does not mention anything about it being localized or translated,
Just in case people might be curious as to how an english release would look, it might just be the regular JP version just being allowed to be sold legally in an Western outlet now.
They do say "in English speaking territories", so I'm optimistic about it. I did ask them directly on Twitter though, so I'll tell when I get an answer.
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I remember ZUN and his friends mentioning that they'll base/use the translations in the Touhou Wiki in one of their group meeting before.
Either it was just a joke or not, I don't know, but it'll be nice to know how it is actually translated or not.
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HOLY MOTHER OF.
I don't even. I can't even believe this is happening. I shall do the dance. :getdown:
Seriously though, I can't wait for this to happen. :D
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I don't care if it's translated or not! This is big news!
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A digital release for us miserable overseas people ? Magnificent. 'twas long overdue.
Do they plan to extend this initiative to the older touhou games (including PC 98 ones) too ?
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY~
*dances merrily and in the meanwhile probably embarrasses himself to death*
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Finally!!! (https://youtu.be/pmw07nzRA3I)
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A digital release for us miserable overseas people ? Magnificent. 'twas long overdue.
Do they plan to extend this initiative to the older touhou games (including PC 98 ones) too ?
Most likely, we will get 10-14.3 (main games) first to test the waters.
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Well I feel like a moron. Made a thread about this but thought it was old news after seeing comments from 7 months ago on the article I saw haha.
But yeah super excited.
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Curious.
Slightly curious as well as to how it took this long.
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If anything, I hope this means that people will think twice before pirating the games, now that there's a way to legally purchase and download them.
With that said, I shall vote with my wallet as soon as the games are released. If enough people show their support, we might see some interesting things in the near future.
Also worth mentioning: What would an "official" translation look like? I remember coming across a thread claiming that it's possible that the current unofficial translations we're so used to might be "wrong". It's always interesting to see how things like this would work out...
it might just be the regular JP version just being allowed to be sold legally in an Western outlet now.
I'd be totally okay with that. If they don't translate it we probably will.
Addendum: Whoever manages the front page should probably update it to include this breaking news.
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The good What-If: Very strong possibility we'll get at least the Windows Touhou games stateside.
The also good What-If: BRYN4444 accepting Touhou characters into VGCW Women's Division if the series gains enough momentum in the US.
The bad What-If: A possibility ZUN uses the bad translations from one of the less-liked translators (you guys know whom I'm talking about), or the more "recent" ones where most of the humor was removed (IE: Mari/Ali's story from IN).
Regardless, I'm excited for this. Can't wait to see what becomes of the series now that it's spreading!
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If anything, I hope this means that people will think twice before pirating the games, now that there's a way to legally purchase and download them.
Well in the grand scheme of things buying it in the digital store is a lot easier than pirating.
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Glad to see this is happening, trying to figure out if it's worth re-buying some titles if the old ones come about.
I'm also betting on translated enough to be playable, or there's some sort of way to import translations into the game. I think he might prefer the fans handling the translations.
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The bad What-If: A possibility ZUN uses the bad translations from one of the less-liked translators (you guys know whom I'm talking about), or the more "recent" ones where most of the humor was removed (IE: Mari/Ali's story from IN).
I don't think this can happen.
I mean ZUN did say at one point he was practicing his english, I don't think he'd let whoever translating turn things around completely.
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The bad What-If: A possibility ZUN uses the bad translations from one of the less-liked translators (you guys know whom I'm talking about), or the more "recent" ones where most of the humor was removed (IE: Mari/Ali's story from IN).
Nah, this shouldn't be an issue : at this point, ZUN might as well let fans deals with the translations themselves, and nothing says that eventuals mistakes in a hypothethical "official" translation cannot be corrected. I think ZUN'll leave the translation to Playism folks, that would be the most simple and reliable way.
I think the eventual issue such "official" translation might bring would be the spelling of the characters's names (Momizi / Momiji ; Kotiya / Kochiya), but this should be a pretty minor issue... compared to the use of new, wholesome names for english / foreign audiences, the bane of localisation, which is very unlikely lol
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Whether and how it's translated is an important topic, but the main thing here is ZUN is expanding his distribution model while still keeping TSA a cottage industry of 1. That, I think, is what's key here. He is both broadening his horizons and staying true to the spirit of things. Something to keep in mind whenever someone grumbles about the guy selling out or whatever. His whole career with Touhou is a living example of what not selling out looks like.
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IN MY LIFETIME? I can hardly contain all this excitement!
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This is actually happening.
I believe it not. Is it April Fool's 2016 already, not?
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Glad this is happening. Finally I can support Zun directly!
I can't wait to boot up a legit copy of Hisoutensoku. Gonna buy them as soon as they are released onto Playism.
Now if only it were possible to get the PC-98 games other than the method "that which we not speak"...
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Nah, this shouldn't be an issue : at this point, ZUN might as well let fans deals with the translations themselves, and nothing says that eventuals mistakes in a hypothethical "official" translation cannot be corrected. I think ZUN'll leave the translation to Playism folks, that would be the most simple and reliable way.
I think the eventual issue such "official" translation might bring would be the spelling of the characters's names (Momizi / Momiji ; Kotiya / Kochiya), but this should be a pretty minor issue... compared to the use of new, wholesome names for english / foreign audiences, the bane of localisation, which is very unlikely lol
Thanks for reassuring me. ;)
I don't mind the alternate spellings, seeing as characters often have alternate spellings to begin with. Pronunciations on the other hand...Won't be an issue seeing as we don't have voice acting yet. :V Just a nitpick of mine.
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Slightly curious as well as to how it took this long.
A lot of stuff. Zun not sure of overseas reception (which didn't change in any meaningful way until AWA), his desire to give fans the same level of creative freedom while navigating thorny western copyright law, being a one-man video game studio, writing two comic series, etc.
There's definitely a lot of potential behind this announcement, but it's probably best to not jump to conclusions.
And for my two cents on the translations, I would love to see a professional take on this and I'm very confident Playism will do it justice.
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Now if only it were possible to get the PC-98 games other than the method "that which we not speak"...
(http://i.imgur.com/JK0VaMV.png)
And for my two cents on the translations, I would love to see a professional take on this and I'm very confident Playism will do it justice.
I agree. Playism seems like they were a good choice. Hopefully they'll go back and release EoSD and the other older games too. :)
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I'm just screaming like a girl noticed by her senpai <3 <3 <3
IT'S HAPPENING GUYS <3
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I'd rebuy as many games as needed, even though I have the disks in my gaming draw. Just to show my support for Western releases.
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I'm just screaming like a girl noticed by her senpai <3 <3 <3
But Sempai did notice us!
Sempai noticed the West! (Finally!)
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This is the coolest thing! I've had a huge smile on my face reading this thread.
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Their Marketing Director was telling to send him a line if we had a question, so here's what I could gather with some other answers I found :
- For now they're only announcing DDC.
- They can only talk about the mainline Touhou titles for now.
- About a translation : "Hopefully we'll be able to talk about that soon."
- Yes, this is real life.
That's a lot of "for now", so I guess we're in a wait & see state right now.
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Yeah; I asked if they were doing all of them, and he responded with 'just DDC for now.'
Which probably means if this is successful, they'll likely do the others at some point. In other words, word of mouth (and money) will likely help shape what's to come~ <3
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Yes!! It's finally happening!! I need it!! I WANT IT!!!
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Their Marketing Director was telling to send him a line if we had a question, so here's what I could gather with some other answers I found :
- For now they're only announcing DDC.
- They can only talk about the mainline Touhou titles for now.
- About a translation : "Hopefully we'll be able to talk about that soon."
- Yes, this is real life.
That's a lot of "for now", so I guess we're in a wait & see state right now.
How about suggesting them to consider the translations in the Touhou Wiki? A lot of efforts and thoughts have gone in it, so I'm sure that it can be a good reference
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That's good idea. They understand Japanese better than us but I dunno about their English so the Wiki can be a little help for them.
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How about suggesting them to consider the translations in the Touhou Wiki? A lot of efforts and thoughts have gone in it, so I'm sure that it can be a good reference
They really can't, because it would be an extreme mess of legal landmines and potential headaches nobody wants to deal with.
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Hell. It's about time. </starcraft>
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is this real life? :V
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No, seriously, tough, what gets me the most exited about this, is the Possibility of Finally an Official english translation! Wow! :)
Although, he did said in an interview that he liked fans handling the translations (because in his words "we're the most hardcore ones about the series", aww, thanks), and that he'd be OK if things continued this way...
so, really curious to see how translation will be handled...
if there will be a translation at all, i don't know Playsim... is there precedent that an untranslated game gets released here?
As far as i'm concerned, i'll still keep Importing the CD versions from japan though, it just feel nicer to have an actual physical copy, there in your hand, rather than just the program on your computer... but it's really Fantastic new for all the folks who can't/don't want to import, obviously, so really happy about it still!
Though if there is an Official translation on the Playsim versions, i might actually start Double-Buying all the games at that point! F*** IT, HE DESERVES IT, ANYWAY! :D
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Hey cool, I'll be able to play the full version of DDC.
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I wonder if Touhou 14 being the Touhou 1 of America will cause any confusions among newcomers to the series.
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I wonder if Touhou 14 being the Touhou 1 of America will cause any confusions among newcomers of the series.
While this may seem odd, keep in mind also part of the reason ZUN chose this particular game is because DDC is labeled (even by ZUN) a stand-alone chapter to the series. Since it doesn't connect too much to the other chapters before hand. So it may also be the best way to "test the waters on new grounds"
Still to think that two years ago, I worked on a giant scroll that I collaborated with 70+ artists with to be given to the man himself at the AWA convention. And thanks to all the hard work from my team, the people here, and AWA. We left a giant impression on ZUN that would lead to this day.
I can't be any more happier knowing now that he's going to start releasing his games to the US now.
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FINALLY it's happening. That's excellent news! :D
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Wasn't DDC also the first digital copy released in Japan only? Afaik ZUN was twittering about he was excited / worried about the online release of DDC. He seems to to do this step by step so it is kind of a logical move as well.
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I first found it out on touhouwiki.A development that came earlier than expected,and in a positively interesting manner
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(http://puu.sh/h5598/b04e26c857.png)
We already had hints before, with ZUN tweeting a picture of an english option menu of the concerned game and DDC being put on digital purchase on Playism JP, but we now have real meat to put on our plates. Playism EN is officially bringing Touhou to the West. (http://playism-games.com/article/touhou-finally-coming-to-the-west)
Whaaat? When did ZUN tweet that? I want to see.
This is a very good development! I'm really happy about it! I just hope it ends up being a success, I'm going to buy a copy seriously can't wait for them to re-release TD I'm not sure about the fighters since they are developed by Tasofro too but hey, as long as we get the series to expand it's actually nice!
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Whaaat? When did ZUN tweet that? I want to see.
This is a very good development! I'm really happy about it! I just hope it ends up being a success, I'm going to buy a copy seriously can't wait for them to re-release TD I'm not sure about the fighters since they are developed by Tasofro too but hey, as long as we get the series to expand it's actually nice!
I don't have time to dig up the tweet at the moment, but what he tweeted - the Touhou 14 setting program in ZUN-English - can already be seen in the Playism Japan's downloadable version of the game.
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Hoorays... but...
I'll wait 'til it comes to Steam.
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I think ZUN's probably overseeing or maybe doing the translation by himself, I remember seeing one of his tweet picture showing the translated version of options in Touhou 14.
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Except without a hired translator he would be forced to use what's already at his disposal. This tweet was last July (https://twitter.com/korindo/status/486607214153453568), so at the time there was no outside translating option. There are arguments for why he would be tempted to do it himself, but his english "isn't exactly the greatest" and he knows it. I find it unlikely that he would literally do the entire translation himself. That being said, a translation not being overseen carefully by ZUN could easily end up a disaster, and we know how passionate he is about minute control over his brainchild, so I'm pretty confident that if the game is translated (which only makes sense, given the need to release it separately to begin with) it will be with close communication with the translation team. Likewise, the Playism side probably know the weight of what they're dealing with, and I'm going to trust that they know they need to take special care to do a good job.
Well, assuming that it will be translated to english.
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Please excuse me while I go do a funny dance in the corner. :V
Hoorays... but...
I'll wait 'til it comes to Steam.
I personally don't think they will come to steam at all.
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You also have to thank them natural disasters in Japan for making them bring their games to the west.
After all, none of their games would have officially came translated to English if those events didn't happen.....
"Subterranean Animism" ------> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami)
"Current Nuclear crisis from Utsuho Reiuji" -----> http://fukushimaupdate.com/ (http://fukushimaupdate.com/)
Just saiyan the truth~!
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do you even comprehend how completely wrong and utterly inhumane that post is
what
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Natural disasters are nothing to joke about. Like, at all.
Try to be more considerate about such things.
FYI, don't make fun of tsunami to Indonesians
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Natural disasters are nothing to joke about. Like, at all.
Try to be more considerate about such things.
FYI, don't make fun of tsunami to Indonesians
I suppose so.. However, any bad event, in a way, is a good one. It allows people to adapt to the circumstance, changing their ways for better or worse. One has to think about what they could do; making the best of situations, regardless of their current state.
do you even comprehend how completely wrong and utterly inhumane that post is
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Yes and no. Its better to be informed rather than be the ignorant when events such as a Japanese Game comes to a different country in its official native language actually happens.
Even Extra Credits partially predicted this to happen, as Japan is realigning itself to the global market, now that their domestic market is being overburdened with its own production costs and current situation in their country --------> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auDqJuVE7Xc
Also, know the difference between connecting dots to incoming events and straight out saying that I'm completely wrong about my assumption. Like I said: that natural disaster must have caused a major blow to Japan's industry in terms of damage costs and production speeds, as well as the citizens' living conditions, forcing them to take a gamble at the western market. But that gamble would not happen without them knowing what's out there in the world. Ask yourself this: How did Xenoblades: Chronicles get released to the world? They asked the consumers in the world market first whether they would buy it or not (They have a facebook or twitter page about this). Once they got the data, they released the game to test out the consumers' testimonial if the game would sell or not. And it did, making the results an example to game developers in Japan that there IS a place for those Japanese games to be shown once more in the world gaming market.
So how does this relate to Touhou coming to the West? Well, the results of Xenoblades: Chronicles released to the West is mainly connected to it, which that result would not happen without events from before, from the natural disaster, to their domestic market not performing well because said disaster. How am I drawing this theory out? Two things: Applying what I know from my Business Major in college into being Well-Informed about the current world. And them students say them college degrees betray themselves...
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"But see, the deaths, destruction and ruined lives benefits us, here, elsewhere in the world, so it's a good thing" is what is wrong with the world today.
If you can't be compassionate, at least be tactful, and back away from this indefensible and sloppily-constructed position instead of derailing this thread.
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You also have to thank them natural disasters in Japan for making them bring their games to the west.
After all, none of their games would have officially came translated to English if those events didn't happen.....
"Subterranean Animism" ------> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami)
"Current Nuclear crisis from Utsuho Reiuji" -----> http://fukushimaupdate.com/ (http://fukushimaupdate.com/)
Just saiyan the truth~!
I... wha. Is this a troll or are you actually serious? I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and say you're trolling, but even then, like... saying that those natural disasters are the reason Touhou hasn't been brought to the West instead of, I dunno, stuff like maybe ZUN wasn't quite sure about selling overseas, or he was still thinking about it... literally ANY OTHER REASON besides natural disasters. I mean come on, really? Let's not go there.
Back on the actual subject, I'm also wondering if the western release will be translated. I'm thinking it will, but I dunno, we'll see, I suppose. Still, this is some pretty major news. Hopefully ZUN'll also try getting the older games ported over to the West too. ^^;
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Ugh, I really apologize beforehand for feeding this troll discussion, but I just feel the need to point out that ZUN is ONE man, who seems to be reasonably well-off and not in any desperate need of cash. Therefore I HIGHLY doubt Japan's overall economical situation has much influence on his own personal decisions and his decision to bring Touhou to the west.
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"But see, the deaths, destruction and ruined lives benefits us, here, elsewhere in the world, so it's a good thing" is what is wrong with the world today.
If you can't be compassionate, at least be tactful, and back away from this indefensible and sloppily-constructed position instead of derailing this thread.
True compassion comes from understanding the truth and how they respond to their current situation. That way, people will appreciate their actions in the long-run and eventually forget the bad stuff. Seija would understand this tactful thinking out of all the touhou characters, if you do not know what kind of "sloppily-constructed position" I have placed myself in. The whole point of what I'm telling you all is to think of where all of this is originating from, then draw in respects, compassion, or at least appreciate how they respond to it because of untimely events. Also, I wasn't even negative about anything of what I said to begin with. Just being neutral and objective. If one cannot see that, then one has picked the wrong target to make a straw-man to argue with.
I... wha. Is this a troll or are you actually serious? I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and say you're trolling, but even then, like... saying that those natural disasters are the reason Touhou hasn't been brought to the West instead of, I dunno, stuff like maybe ZUN wasn't quite sure about selling overseas, or he was still thinking about it... literally ANY OTHER REASON besides natural disasters. I mean come on, really? Let's not go there.
Back on the actual subject, I'm also wondering if the western release will be translated. I'm thinking it will, but I dunno, we'll see, I suppose. Still, this is some pretty major news. Hopefully ZUN'll also try getting the older games ported over to the West too. ^^;
I was being a bit of both, but mostly serious. Back on topic, I, for one, am looking forward to it too heh.
Ugh, I really apologize beforehand for feeding this troll discussion, but I just feel the need to point out that ZUN is ONE man, who seems to be reasonably well-off and not in any desperate need of cash. Therefore I HIGHLY doubt Japan's overall economical situation has much influence on his own personal decisions and his decision to bring Touhou to the west.
Don't think about it too much. I just wanted people to be informed where the origin of the action may have came from. Theories, if you must say. I'm not saying that ZUN needs more money, I'm just saying that society can be affected by many things, and with the changes going on, even influential people choose to "go with the flow" in terms of where society stands.
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Don't think about it too much. I just wanted people to be informed where the origin of the action may have came from. Theories, if you must say. I'm not saying that ZUN needs more money, I'm just saying that society can be affected by many things, and with the changes going on, even influential people choose to "go with the flow" in terms of where society stands.
I just find it HIGHLY doubtful that ZUN stopped and said to himself (even subconsciously), "Gee, Japanese society sure is in an upheaval right now. I should bring Touhou to the west!"
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you also can't seriously say afterward that it "may" be a contributor or that it's your theory when you first say "you also have to thank them natural disasters in Japan for making them bring their games to the west" as though it were a statement of fact, and then talk about "being informed" and putting yourself on this pedestal as though you're the only one here who is, when really the whole matter is just totally irrelevant and you tossed it in out of nowhere
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how much do you guys think it will cost when it gets released?
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Probably 15$. The other STGs on Playism are pretty consistent in price difference between JP/EN, seemingly ignoring exchange rate.
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I just find it HIGHLY doubtful that ZUN stopped and said to himself (even subconsciously), "Gee, Japanese society sure is in an upheaval right now. I should bring Touhou to the west!"
The gaming industry may say otherwise, since they're opening up their products to the world market, despite their highly insecure way of thinking about the world experiences video games. Then again, I suppose the only way to really find out is to wait and see what happens until they find a way to clean up their land, or at least get their domestic markets to trust their own products once more.
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I... wha. Is this a troll or are you actually serious?
The former, ignore him.
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http://playism-games.com/article/touhou-14-hits-playism-on-5-7-2015
Only a few days from now, guys.
Also, Takkoman.
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If he wouldn't even allow them to translate the game title, just calling it "Touhou [No$]: [Subtitle$]" is an acceptable compromise, better than "Touhou [IncomprehensibleJapanese$]". Actually ZUN might have demanded them to call it that, considering the window title in the Playism Japan version.
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So Japanese version being released, correct? I don't see where it's explicitly stated but I'm assuming such.
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The cheapest copy on Amazon is $22.25 + shipping. Plus there's a two-week delivery time.
At $14.99 there's no reason not to buy a copy and have it instantly. This is seriously one of the best decisions ZUN can make.
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I am quite curious about how successful this will be. Touhou has a reputation for being a big fandom, but can we put our money where our mouths are? Or will that information even be released? Hmm.
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So Japanese version being released, correct? I don't see where it's explicitly stated but I'm assuming such.
It's highly doubtful it'll be untranslated, considering Playism releases translated games already, like One Way Heroics.
Considering there REALLY isn't that much text in a touhou game to translate, it only makes sense that it's going to be in English, even with the speedy release.
I'm most interested in what the official translation will look like. Will the fan-accepted names for things hold out or will we have youkai be monsters? There's been a lot of debate over what the name of Sukuka's species is too, what they translate for that will probably cause some level of upheaval.
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I'm leaning toward the possibility of an untranslated version, but if it does get translated I'm pretty sure ZUN will be involved in it. He doesn't seem like he'd allow "official" translations without his involvement.
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The moment of truth comethhhh...
From Playism Japan's twitter (https://twitter.com/playismJP/status/594380885211787264):
On May 7, Touhou Kishinjou will be released in English-speaking territories, allowing people to buy it from overseas. The game itself is only in Japanese, but it is playable on English operating systems. Takkoman (English version) will be released at the same time. On the Japanese side, we will be releasing Marisa no Kirisame Mahou-ten, Touhou Genmuyoudan ~ Ran, and Tenjou no Tempest.
Tenjou no Tempest probably needs no introduction. Marisa no Kirisame Mahou-ten ("Marisa's Drizzle Magic Shop") is Strawberry Bose's most recent game, a shop management RPG. Genmuyoudan ~ Ran is the updated version of Touhou Genmuyoudan: Nightmare of the Rebellion, the third game in their RPG trilogy.
It's really interesting to see them releasing different games on the English and Japanese sides.
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Hmm, I think it would've been better if they had translated it, since that might've attracted more new fans (even if it caused several hundred threads full of people complaining or arguing over which words to use from now on lol) but I guess it's not a huge deal since you don't really need to understand Japanese to dodge bullets and stuff.
I hope it does well!
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That's pretty interesting. I guess it was mainly about getting a popular game overseas than getting people into it ? At any rate, we'll be sticking with the good old fan translation, which is pretty okay too, as these are pretty accurate (it's not like DDC wasn't already fan translated anyway). Seems like a bit of a wasted opportunity but then again it's not like translation would be vital gameplay-wise and would have been a bit bothersome... :X
Also, gotta love how fangames got some spotlight as of late
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From Playism's perspective, like all other doujin game publishers, they'd absolutely love to secure the holy grail of their trade: publishing Touhou Project in the West. Of course they would want to translate it - that was common sense.
But for ZUN, this is above all about making the game available to existing fans who want to play Touhou legally, eliminating the expensive middlemen and shipping fees they had to pay. As for translation, he would not trust the content of his games to another person, so that was not an option.
These are of course just speculation, but everything I said above has been said by someone else.
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Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity to me - a professional translation could potentially have been very good, and provided a real point of difference to people who'd imported (or pirated) the game previously. As it stands I suspect most people who are interested in the game might have played it already, and directing people to fan patches will probably just direct them to pirate the games (IIRC the group running the autopatcher also ran a site tracking how long it took for pirated versions of DDC to become available, and used this to promote the patcher). I guess this news really might have more of an impact on derivative works, if "English version" actually means Takkoman will be translated. What a weird position to be in!
For me it means I'll probably just keep importing the games, unless there's an indication that 14.3 and 15 might hit Playism without a huge wait - I held off on 14.3 because of the noise surrounding potential online distribution, but I'll probably get them together when 15 comes out. And on a selfish note, I can't complain too much if ZUN's more interested in making new games than overseeing the translation of older ones.
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Well it might also make sense not to translate it if there is already an established fan translation community that already does it. Cut out time and effort and the fans dont fight over anything new.
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In my opinion, I personally feel that people who have already played TH14 and showed an interest in getting it should seriously consider purchasing it even if they played their worth it, not only because it would be the right thing to do, but it would actively show that people are actually supporting what they clamored for. Strong sales could possibly hasten future releases whereas weak ones may mean no future ones.
Heck, I already have a physical copy of 14 and I'm willing to purchase it once more. I've done it before with a number of the Ys games, Trails in the Sky and Xenoblade because I legitimately want more quality games brought over. I *like* supporting devs who put out quality products.
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Note that thcrap iirc is currently in development hell; it doesn't support the Japanese Playism TH14, and I wouldn't expect it to support the western TH14 for a while.
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Wish Playism showed any interest at all non-Windows ports. Oh well.
That Takkoman made it in is interesting. I am curious if other derivative games will be forced to go through Playism or if other publishers are okay. Suspecting not but we just don't know.
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It is a bit of a shame that the game won't get an official translation, but I was actually dubious of there being so with the wording of the announcements, and ZUN working on new games and not really wanting anyone else developing upon his official works. I'd probably still get it if I ever decide to have Paypal or something, though.
Besides, even with thcrap in development hell, I don't think it'd be too long until some other patching group picks it up.
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The game is now available for purchase on PlayismEN. (http://playism-games.com/game/215/double-dealing-character)
Takkoman (http://playism-games.com/game/214/takkoman) is also here.
EDIT : (http://i.imgur.com/M4JP89M.png)
Haha, Playism please. :]
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The game is now available for purchase on PlayismEN. (http://playism-games.com/game/215/double-dealing-character)
Takkoman (http://playism-games.com/game/214/takkoman) is also here.
EDIT : (http://i.imgur.com/M4JP89M.png)
Haha, Playism please. :]
They got humor, I give them that.
The "arouses your primal instinct" part is worth a chuckle.
ZUN are into this too, so I hope this will be a good start. Keep it up.
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They got humor, I give them that.
The "arouses your primal instinct" part is worth a chuckle.
Haha, Playism please. :]
ZUN always writes his stuff, including system requirements like that. The problem is past translators of Touhou games did not translate them. You had no idea what you missed out lol.
Well, at least ZUN allowed Playism to translate his game description, creator's comments, etc. I would say the translation work is professional (the errors, lost nuances and allusions notwithstanding), except for...
(http://i.imgur.com/frk8tJ6.png)
Editorial error.
(http://i.imgur.com/bD7qMrI.png)
A mistake professionals should not make: a "prequel" is not an earlier episode, it's a later episode that takes place chronologically earlier,
Meanwhile, the new games are also online at Playism Japan. If I recall correctly, they did not have a Touhou category before. Whether this is the case or not, the category URL (http://playism.jp/games/dong-fang) and page title is a little weird...
(http://i.imgur.com/UCpflAL.png) (http://i.imgur.com/uKrAsuI.png)
Since "Dongfang" is how you pronounce "Touhou" in Chinese, I'm sure some clueless Chinese outsourcer had a hand in that.
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There have been reports that the game won't run unless you change your system language or use related tools.
First, AppLocale has a bug that can cause lots of headache. A third party tool, Locale Emulator works better.
Second, the problem is probably caused by the directory path of your game. When unpacked from the ZIP file you downloaded, you get a game folder that contains Japanese text in its name, which may screw things up if your system language is not Japanese. The same may happen if your game path includes characters that are outside of the usual ASCII range.
In short, the first solution you try should be renaming the game folder, ensuring the game path contains only basic symbols such as numericals, English letters and space.
EDIT:
My download is done. I can now confirm that all game files are exactly the same as last year's Playism Japan.
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The SJIS youkai strikes again...
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The game itself is only in Japanese, but it is playable on English operating systems
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There have been reports that the game won't run unless you change your system language or use related tools.
First, AppLocale has a bug that can cause lots of headache. A third party tool, Locale Emulator works better.
Second, the problem is probably caused by the directory path of your game. When unpacked from the ZIP file you downloaded, you get a game folder that contains Japanese text in its name, which may screw things up if your system language is not Japanese. The same may happen if your game path includes characters that are outside of the usual ASCII range.
gg playism
Let's wait and see if things'll get fixed
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That was easy... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmMNpbFjp0) The purchase, at least. I haven't played any Touhou beyond PCB and IN, so this is actually going to be somewhat of a challenge for me.
Let's hope LoLK will be distributed in the same way!
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"He wants to quit soon"
I suppose we should admire ZUN's honesty...
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11165201_1570903833192871_4323743645800693494_n.jpg?oh=35a9314b57b92d435fb14e5c258e5564&oe=5609AFBB)
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Time to post some pics. Keep in mind that the current release is exactly the same as the one they released last August on Playism Japan, with a few things translated by ZUN himself.
A comparison of the launch menu, and contents of the Playism game folder:
(http://i.imgur.com/y4JWst3.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/IIyJuaD.jpg)
Comparison between the Japanese (CD version) and English (Playism) config program:
(http://i.imgur.com/FFDsZYL.jpg)
What you get when you click on "Save and Close"? An untranslated message that may appear as gibberish on your system.
(http://i.imgur.com/5YnXwO8.jpg)
The title of the main game window. Somehow ZUN believes calling the game "TH14" instead of "Touhou Kishinjou" will be enough to make it English.
(http://i.imgur.com/Ciqcedt.jpg)
He also did not update his readme file properly.
(http://i.imgur.com/9YNYz4M.png)(http://i.imgur.com/nGSvfNi.jpg)
Left: readme.txt after applying the 1.00b patch to the CD version.
Right: the Playism version still has the 1.00a readme.txt.
We are pretty used to how ZUN half-asses everything, but to most people who are not Touhou fans, this will come as a shock.
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Also seeing that "wants to quit soon" thing. What's that about? Is there a source or did he tell Playism this?
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Also seeing that "wants to quit soon" thing. What's that about? Is there a source or did he tell Playism this?
Like I said, ZUN wrote the game description, the system requirement and the developer bio himself, which are then translated by Playism at their usual level of quality. He jokes about retiring from time to time, but more often, he says he wants to make games more than ever.
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Thought so. I mean last I recall he's maintained he'd keep going. Really odd choice of translation.
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Figured it would be just a copy+paste from the JP release.
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11204975_1570915439858377_8401045796421048640_n.jpg?oh=2be024a4ae8821fff5d1963ece622a15&oe=55D712F2)
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(http://i.imgur.com/nuVaORi.png)
Done. Being able to easily support ZUN easily is pretty neat. Finally!
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Yes! Anything that makes it easier to buy Touhou. Imports are expensive and I want to support ZUN's work.
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On the Playism English twitter:
Playism: (https://twitter.com/playismEN/status/598695325050634240) Tell us what Touhou titles you wanna see in the west, we're gonna start a poll. Tell us using #IWantTouhou!
Playism: (https://twitter.com/playismEN/status/598696731535085568) Tell us what non-mainline titles you also want to see :) #IWantTouhou
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I think I will take that quitting remark with the whole damn salt mine. As for the translation of menus, go figure. I never expected a proper official translation but I guess it is nice that it is even available now.
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guessing this means 'everything goes through playism'. welp.
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Being able to easily support ZUN easily is pretty neat. Finally!
Wait! wait! hold the phone there guys, we need to clarify something here.
Are we *really* supporting ZUN here when we buy this game from Playism? It could be here that DDC is being sold on some license or something and Playism is getting all the profit while ZUN is getting minimal or even no money from the deal.
It would be great if this would be cleared up that we are indeed supporting ZUN when we buy from Playism. Businesses (especially corporations) are well known to be involved in dodgy and even downright despicable practices when involved with other peoples work. I would like to support ZUN himself, not Playism.
... I've been reading to many scandal and conspiracy stories again :derp:
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Yes. Yes, you have.
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Grand you're so cynical
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why on earth would you ever think he's not getting paid.
like, that's not conspiracy theory level, that's just "i don't understand how economics and business work"
now translators, they tend to get the short end of the stick.
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I'm just saying that maybe Playism is getting the largest share of the profits from "bringing Touhou to the west" and ZUN might not be getting as much money out of it as we might think.
It seems like lots of people are buying the game from Playism simply so they can support ZUN for his wonderful games. These people should know if their money they are sending to ZUN from buying this game really is all going to ZUN and not just Playism. People who "want to support ZUN" should probably think about that for a second.
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Grand, honest question: have you been following this story at all? Because I dont think you'd be Just Asking Questions like this if you had been. This is kind of a heavy accusation you're levelling here. Burden of proof is on you mang.
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I'm just saying that maybe Playism is getting the largest share of the profits from "bringing Touhou to the west" and ZUN might not be getting as much money out of it as we might think.
It seems like lots of people are buying the game from Playism simply so they can support ZUN for his wonderful games. These people should know if their money they are sending to ZUN from buying this game really is all going to ZUN and not just Playism. People who "want to support ZUN" should probably think about that for a second.
Did I accidentally click onto 'Current Events' on gamefaqs? Because, oh man, this post would fit right in there.
Think for a second. Unlike Kojima, Koji Igarashi, and Keiji Inafune, ZUN has complete control of his creative works, he works under no one. Playism either a) was lucky enough that ZUN* approached them and offered them the opportunity to distribute his works in the west or b) approached ZUN* and were lucky enough to be given the opportunity to distribute his works. ZUN holds every single card here and you can bet he's getting his fair share for his works.
*By which I mean ZUN and the people he has who help with business matters.
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Wait I'm confused, is this some English made Touhou game?
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Wait I'm confused, is this some English made Touhou game?
See the first post in this thread for more information.
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Wait I'm confused, is this some English made Touhou game?
Nope!... But deep down inside I wish it was :(
Think for a second. Unlike Kojima, Koji Igarashi, and Keiji Inafune, ZUN has complete control of his creative works, he works under no one.
Gah!... Don't even get me started on how badly Kojima has been back stabbed by Konami this year. RIP Metal gear - 1987-2015.
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A technical sidenote not going to be interesting to most people:
The Playism Japanese site has fixed up all the dubious URLs from the previous update (initially their URLs were purely based on game names, e.g. "playism.jp/games/th14/"; in the update they switched to URLs based on game numbers, e.g. "playism.jp/game/296/touhou-kishinjo").
The Touhou category "playism.jp/games/dong-fang" is now "playism.jp/games/touhou_project".
"playism.jp/game/342/dong-fang-hong-hui-xin" is now "playism.jp/game/342/touhou-koukishin".
The platformer category "playism.jp/games/puratutohuoma" has been altogether removed.
(http://i.imgur.com/Ru96yUr.jpg)
"Sensei, what is a puratutohuoma?"
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The amount of not-quite-English English and inexplicable Chinese in something as major as Touhou is quite amusing, to say the least.
I mean, seriously, why a Chinese reading of a very well-known Japanese game being sold to Japanese or English speaking people!? Utterly bizzare.
(http://i.imgur.com/bD7qMrI.png)
A mistake professionals should not make: a "prequel" is not an earlier episode, it's a later episode that takes place chronologically earlier,
By the by, most of the previously mentioned not-quite-English English had been corrected on DDC's page, barring the use of prequel.
They could've said "without having played any of the previous games in the series" or something instead. I'm beginning to wonder if Playism has an English editor on board.
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brliron added partial support for TH14 Playism to thcrap a couple days ago. If you want TH14 Playism in English, give thcrap a shot.
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The amount of not-quite-English English and inexplicable Chinese in something as major as Touhou is quite amusing, to say the least.
I mean, seriously, why a Chinese reading of a very well-known Japanese game being sold to Japanese or English speaking people!? Utterly bizzare.
Nothing bizzare about it if you must churn out outsource work for something you are completely unfamiliar with quickly.
By the by, most of the previously mentioned not-quite-English English had been corrected on DDC's page, barring the use of prequel.
They could've said "without having played any of the previous games in the series" or something instead. I'm beginning to wonder if Playism has an English editor on board.
Yeah, looks like they have had one of their own staff take another pass at the page.
Does anyone have a copy of the old page saved? A screenshot would be enough.