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Title: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 08, 2016, 03:50:43 PM
12th Annual Touhou Series Popularity Contest
(http://i.imgur.com/w7DlRzy.png) (http://thwiki.info/th/vote12/)(@shirofox (https://twitter.com/shirofox))
http://thwiki.info/th/vote12/
(Translations of site pages) (http://imgur.com/a/RbqGy)



The Touhou Series Popularity Poll, held by the Japanese Touhou Wiki (http://thwiki.info) for over a decade, is a poll open to fans around the globe to vote on their favorite characters and music throughout the Touhou series. If you haven't been following the news this announcement might come as a surprise, but voting opens tomorrow! Will Koishi once again obtain the top spot this year, or were the previous contest's results just a trick of the subconscious?



Previous Threads

7th Contest - Voting (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,4966.0.html) - Results (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,5052.0.html)
8th Contest - Voting & Results (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8445.0.html)
9th Contest - Voting & Results (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12072.0.html)
10th Contest - Voting & Results (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16317.0.html)
11th Contest - Voting & Results (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18477.0.html)



Voting

Voting Period: Sunday, January 10th 00:00 JST ~ Saturday, January 16th 23:59 JST

Voting is done similarly to the previous years. You will need to obtain a voting ID by submitting your email address to the site; you will receive an email with your voting ID included, and when completing any poll you will need to enter this voting ID. There is only one voting ID allowed per person.

This time, voting ID requests can be made half a day in advance of the polls opening. They will be available on January 9 at 12:00 JST.
Please request your ID before the poll starts if possible, to help take some load off of the server during the voting period. Additionally, as you can vote anytime during the voting period, perhaps take care to save your votes until later during the week.

Please refer to this site for the clock / time by which the contest is operating. (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/asia/japan/time/)

Four categories are available for voting :

In the same order as on the site :
Character Poll - Vote for your (maximum of) 7 favourite characters. Your top vote will receive 2 points as opposed to 1.
Music Poll -  Vote for your (maximum of) 10 favourite songs. Your top vote will receive 2 points as opposed to 1.
Works Poll -  Vote for your (maximum of) 5 favourite works (see below). Your top vote will receive 2 points as opposed to 1.
Voter Questionnaire - A questionnaire collecting voter data on demographics, game clear rates, game and manga ownership, etc.
Here is a translation of the questionnaire. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19185.msg1230894.html#msg1230894)

Here (http://thwiki.info/th/vote12/List.php) is a list of the candidates that you can vote for in each poll. The top four links send respectively to the list of characters, the list of songs, the list of works, and a list of arranges that will count as the same at their original.

With your votes, you can submit comments about your vote. These will be published on the website once the poll is over.



FAQ

General

Q. Why 'Touhou Series' and not 'Touhou Project' as the official title says?
A. It's been a tradition since the 1st contest.

Q. Can I vote from my cell phone?
A. It is not recommended, but you can vote from smartphone (iOS / Android).
There are times when a memory error will occur depending on your phone model. Please vote from a different location, such as a net cafe or a friend's PC, instead.

Q. Do I need to fill out the comment field?
A. Filling out the comment field isn't necessary.

Q. I don't want to fill out all the spots for votes.
A. Vote for as many as you would like, then leave the others unselected.

Q. Can people outside Japan vote?
A. Yes.

Q. Will it be okay if I vote from the same computer as my siblings, etc.?
A. While it's impossible to say with 100% certainty that your votes won't be mistakenly judged to be duplicate votes, if you include the voting reason in the comment, it should be fine.

Q. I have no choice but to vote using a free e-mail address; will it be all right if I fill out the comment field properly?
A. As long as it's not a duplicate vote, there won't be any problem.

Q. What is the maximum number of characters allowed for comments at voting time?
A. 200 full-width characters. [or 400 ASCII characters.]

Character

Q. Can I vote for Lily Black?
A. She is included in the "Lily White" option. (Note: In the "Nae Radio" broadcast on Aug 21, 2010, ZUN commented that Lily White and Lily Black are the same character.)

Q. Can I vote for Rin Satsuki?
A. As a character which does not officially exist, she will not be included.

Q. There's no option for the character I want to vote for...
A. As Seihou/Uwabami Breakers characters/ZUN are not characters that have appeared in the Touhou series, they will not be included.
In addition, inanimate objects (Yin-Yang orbs, gameplay items, etc) except for the Shanghai Doll and UFOs will not be included.

Q. Story of Eastern Wonderland's Stage 1 midboss and Stage 3 boss are inanimate objects, so I can understand why they're not included, but can't I vote for other PC-98 midbosses?
A. Considering that they have no proper names and are very poorly known, we have decided not to include them.

Q. Regarding the fairy mooks, will there be separate options for fairy maids, etc?
A. Characters without proper names will be included in the options named after their race.

Q. Can I vote for the girl on the Dolls in Pseudo Paradise cover?
A. Taking her popularity into account, she can now be voted for as "Dolls in Pseudo Paradise CD Jacket/Label Girl".

Music

Q. How will votes for arrangements of original songs appearing on the music CDs be handled?
A. Arrangements will be displayed as separate items on the voting screen, but votes for the arrangements and their original songs will be counted together during vote totaling. Please vote for the arrangement you like the most.
(You cannot vote for both the original song and the arrangement.)

Q. How will "Love-Colored Magic" and "Love-Colored Master Spark" be handled?
A. Please refer to the table of arrangements with different names which will be counted together with their original songs (http://thwiki.info/th/vote12/List.php#COMMENT).

Q. Aren't "Bloom Nobly, Ink-Black Cherry Blossoms ~ Border of Life" and "Border of Life" different arrangements of the same song?
A. In this poll, they are treated as different songs.

Questionnaire

Q. Regarding the voter survey questions on game clear status, aren't frame drop rates going to be included?
A. We're not being that hardcore in having such strict policies on counting clears.

Other

Q. Are there any plans to include the spell card poll?
A. It will not be implemented this time.

Q. Can I use pictures I've drawn on Pixiv, etc. as publicity images?
A. Publicity is welcome. In addition, including the hashtag "#toho_vote12" and "第12回東方Project人気投票" is recommended. Registered participants can put links to these works here (http://thwiki.info/th/vote12/Shien.php).


Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 09, 2016, 03:33:31 AM
Voting ID requests are open as of 30 minutes ago!

Voting Form:
- Email address
- Previous contest's voting ID (optional)
- Captcha


Including a previous voting ID is for data validation and statistics purposes, but is optional.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: kevin1127 on January 09, 2016, 05:06:34 AM
Fuck man I totally forgot this thing.
Considering the Chinese poll just ended few months ago, it feels like this event is happening too fast.
I think they increase the number of character and music that we can vote, which I believe is a good thing bc we don't have to struggle on our choice.

I love Koishi, but I don't expect her to be at 1st this time; however, I do hope that there will be some changes on music chart (i.e Little Priness get 1st or something)
I also hope that characters and musics from LoLK can make a good debut.

So, let's start the first Touhou event of 2016 (probably) with this popularity poll. I hope that this can go well and smoothly :)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: hungrybookworm on January 09, 2016, 05:15:30 AM
Got my code! Looking forward to seeing how the works poll goes (okay we all know EoSD will get number one but I wanna see which print work is top dog).

My money's on Clownpiece being the most popular LoLK character. I'm glad they increased the number of characters we can vote for. I might vote for blonde dipp...
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Critz on January 09, 2016, 03:19:14 PM
Oh, that was faster than I expected.

Well, here's hoping that LoLK will do miracles to the popularity of my two favorites:
(http://i.imgur.com/5DueMkT.jpg)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 09, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
Voting is open!

I'll make translations when I wake up. For now: big red button leads to voting page.

First section (投票用IDの発行):
- Issue voting ID
- Confirm/edit votes

Second section (投票する):
- Character poll
- Music poll
- Works poll
- Voter questionnaire
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 09, 2016, 03:58:24 PM
Vote submitted. Funny they increased the amount of characters and songs you can vote for, I wonder how it will impact the final scores.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: kevin1127 on January 09, 2016, 05:48:42 PM
Done.

Character:
Koishi(1st), Doremy, Sagume, Seija, Mugetsu, Gengetsu, Kogasa
Music:
Little Princess(1st), Magic Shop of Raspberry, Hartman's Youkai Girl, Illusionary Joururi, Battlefield of Hanahazama, Last Occultism, Pure Furries, Eternal Spring Dream, Frozen Capital of Eternity, and A World of Nightmare Never Seen Before
Work:
FS(1st), WaHH, LoLK, ULiL, and PoDD

Thank god they increase the number of characters and musics that we can vote, I feel like I spent less time voting than I did last time.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Quwanti on January 09, 2016, 06:16:42 PM
Yeah. Voting this time felt much easier.

Characters:
Futo(1st), Miko, Kyouko, Sumireko, Renko, Sagume, Tenshi

Music:
Old Yuanshen(1st), Midnight Spell Card, Love-coloured Master Spark, Last Occultism, Battlefield of Flower Threshold, Ghostly Eyes, The Lake Reflects the Cleansed Moonlight (Kanjuden), Illusionary Night, Sky Ruin, Bamboo Forest of the Full Moon, Far Side of the Moon

Works:
Seirensen(1st), Danmaku Amanojaku, Shinreibyou, Shinpiroku, Izanagi Busshitsu
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Plubio on January 09, 2016, 06:25:34 PM
Votes submitted!
By the way, they increased the number of votes, right? I didn't remember being so much last year (and years prior). Maybe I'm wrong tho.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: PK on January 09, 2016, 06:26:25 PM
Characters:
Rumia
Sagume
Seija
Yukari
Remilia
Ran
Junko

Music:
Satori Maiden ~ 3rd eye
Necrofantasia
Pandemonic Planet
Shangai Teahouse (EoSD)
Lunar Clock ~ Luna Dial (EoSD)
Lonesome Werewolf
Apparitions Stalk the Night
Frozen Capital of Eternity
Faraway 380,000-Kilometer Voyage
Nostalgic Blood of the East ~ Old World

Works:
EoSD
PCB
LoLK
FS
Sangetsusei

I wanted to do the questionnaire, but it hurts me physically checking all the questions and answers :V
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: aListers on January 09, 2016, 08:52:16 PM
Characters:
1. Alice Margatroid
2. Yukari Yakumo
3. Mima
4. Byakuren Hijiri
5. Nitori Kawashiro
6. Marisa Kirisame
7. Doremy Sweet

Not sure if Yuuka deserved 6th or 7th. The 2 extra places confused me.

Works:
1. Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom (this goes in blind but I loved the demo that much)
2. Phantasmagoria of dim dream
3. Imperishable night
4. Symposium of post mysticism/perfect memento in strict sense
5. Forbidden scrollery

I've never compared the games to the magazines/books/things so I just gave the fanbooks 4th and 5th.

Music is too hard to judge on so I'm not going to bother as usual.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Cristian on January 09, 2016, 09:03:37 PM
Weee! first time I vote. Painful helping myself with Google Translate, but I think I did it fine.
Hope some of my choices will end up showing on high places <3

These were:

Characters:

• Koishi (1st)
• Rin
• Mokou
• Seija
• Miko
• Satori
• Kogasa

Music:
* it was tough, considering how much I care about Touhou songs. Many ones were out u.u aaah man

• Voyage 1970 (1st)
• Returning Home From the Sky ~ Sky Dream
• Inchlings of the Shining Needle ~ Little Princess
• Hartmann's Youkai Girl (HM)
• The Lost Emotion (ULiL)
• Star Voyage 2008
• Midnight Spell Card
• The Gensokyo the Gods Loved
• Song of the Night Sparrow ~ Night Bird
• Heian Alien

Works:

• TH08 - IN
• TH14.3 - IPS
• Silent Sinner in Blue
• TH12.8 - GFW
• Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red


..the questionnaire...  :X that's for another day, I'd like to try it
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: SirSlarty on January 09, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
I done did voted. I forget the order of the characters and also which music themes I voted for, though.

Voted for (I think in this order) Keine, Yuki, Sagume, Sanae, Reimu, Kagerou, Seiran

Nice to see others voted for Sagume.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Tea Devil on January 10, 2016, 01:42:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/WXyVVLr.png)

Supreme Judge of Paradise, San Andreas
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Koog on January 10, 2016, 01:55:06 AM
Done!

Characters:
1st Kogasa Tatara
2nd Nue Houjuu
3rd Clownpiece
4th Junko
5th Hata no Kokoro
6th Yamame Kurodani
7th Shinmyoumaru Sukuna

Music:
1st Inchlings of the Shining Needle ~ Little Princess (DDC)
2nd The Primal Scene of Japan the Girl Saw
3rd Beware the Umbrella Left There Forever
4th Pierrot of the Star-Spangled Banner
5th Last Occultism ~ Esotericist of the Present World
6th Heian Alien
7th Ghostly Band ~ Phantom Ensemble
8th Pandemonic Planet
9th The Lost Emotion (HM)
10th Faith Is for the Transient People (MoF)

Works:
1st Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom
2nd Imperishable Night
3rd Wild and Horned Hermit
4th Hisoutensoku
5th Urban Legend in Limbo
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Tea Devil on January 10, 2016, 02:30:59 AM
Oh right, so my votes.

Charcters

1- Shikieiki
2- Orange
3- Sariel
4- Seija
5- Yoshika
6- Nue
7- Rin

Music

1- A Phantom's Boisterous Dance
2- Retrospective Kyoto
3- Izanagi Object
4- Love of Magical Chimes
5- Highly Responsive to Prayers
6- Little Princess
7- Fate of Sixty Years
8- Rigid Paradise
9- Necro-Fantasy
10- Fires of Hokkai

Works

1- Double Dealing Character
2- Lotus Land Story
3- Phantasmagoria of Flower View
4- Subterranean Animism
5- Magical Astronomy
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Honoakari on January 10, 2016, 09:35:49 AM
Characters:

- Ibuki Suika (1st) - best oni
- Moriya Suwako - best goddess
- Inaba Tewi - best rabbit
- Kasodani Kyouko - best UFO
- Kisume - best Chireiden
- Motoori Kosuzu - best Print Work
- Rumia - the Darkest

Also wanted to vote for Reimu, Flandre, Patchouli, Youmu, Futo, Kokoro... >.>

Music:

- Touhou Yourendan (from SWR) (1st)
- Demystify Feast
- Voile Mahou Toshokan
- Mugen Kairou (from ZUN's Strange Works)
- Unga wo Yukikau Jin'you (DDC Stage 2 Theme)
- LoLK Menu Theme
- LoLK Stage 5 Theme
- LoLK Stage 5 Boss Theme
- Youkai Ura Sandou
- Sado no Futatsuiwa

10 votes are still not enough...

Works:

- Touhou 06 - Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (1st)
- Touhou 08 - Imperishable Night
- Touhou 10 - Mountain of Faith
- Touhou 04 - Lotus Land Story
- Touhou Bougetsushou - Silent Sinner in Blue
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Zil on January 10, 2016, 11:12:38 AM
They just toss music albums, video games, and manga all into one thing? How ridiculous.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Suspicious person on January 10, 2016, 12:30:47 PM
Done !

Character votes :
-Hinanawi Tenshi (+2)
-Moriya Suwako
-Usami Renko
-Usami Sumireko
-Kochiya Sanae
-Kishin Sagume
-Toyosatomimi no Miko

Music votes :
-Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (+2)
-Ghostly Band ~ Phantom Ensemble
-Pure Furies ~ Whereabouts of the Heart
-Gathering the Mysterious from All Around Japan
-Girls' Sealing Club
-Japanese Saga
-A Midnight Fairy Dance
-The Fairies' Adventurous Tale
-Retrospective Kyoto
-Welcome to the Moon Tour

Works votes :
-Touhou 15 : Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom (+2)
-Touhou 13 : Ten Desires
-Touhou Suzunaan : Forbidden Scrollery
-Symposium of Post Mysticism
-Magical Astronomy
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: hungrybookworm on January 10, 2016, 01:00:53 PM
Characters

Pretty much the same as last time, with Sumireko replaced by Sagume. My friend keeps drawing the dipp girl so she's to blame for the last one lol

Music

Tossed some LoLK tracks in there because why not.

Works

I'm really glad this is a thing now. All my love to Forbidden Scrollery, which strives to turn me gayer (and give me a heart attack) every month.

And I answered the questionnaire!
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 10, 2016, 02:02:58 PM
Added translations of site pages (http://imgur.com/a/RbqGy) to the opening post. Should be enough to navigate and vote.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 10, 2016, 03:05:06 PM
Voter questionnaire

1. Age

2. Gender
3. Residence
4. On what difficulty can you 1cc each game? (Clear with no continues)
5. Currently-subscribed publications:
6. What draws you into the Touhou Series? (multiple answer)
7. When did you get into Touhou?          *Shuusou Gyoku

8. How did you first discover Touhou?
9. If you attend doujin events like Comiket and Reitaisai, what are your main activities there? (multiple answer)
10. Have you voted in the Touhou Series Popularity Contest before?
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Quwanti on January 10, 2016, 04:24:41 PM
Someone made a simple exit poll. They're just from people who tweeted their votes, iirc.
https://twitter.com/blueskis382/status/686123283805151236/photo/1
Some interesting bits:
Sagume 5th
Sumireko 24th
Fortune Teller 66th

https://twitter.com/kzrmk/status/686143850348331008/photo/1 (Another one)


Since it's been only like one day, everything is still possible. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sagume quite high, though.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: TresserT on January 10, 2016, 05:01:36 PM
In no particular order besides first:
Characters
1) Byakuren
Reimu
Koishi
Yukari
Seija
Clownpiece
Yuyuko

Music
1) The Lost Emotion
Sleeping Terror
Tabula Rasa ~ The Empty Girl
Last Remote
Emotional Skyscraper ~ Cosmic Mind
UFO Romance in the Night Sky
Strange, Strange Instruments
Catastrophe in Bhava-Agra ~ Wonderful Heaven

Works
1) Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom
Mystic Square
Great Faily Wars
Mountain of Faith
Dolls in Pseudo Paradise
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: hungrybookworm on January 10, 2016, 05:03:12 PM
Someone made a simple exit poll. They're just from people who tweeted their votes, iirc.
https://twitter.com/blueskis382/status/686123283805151236/photo/1
Some interesting bits:
Sagume 5th
Sumireko 24th
Fortune Teller 66th

https://twitter.com/kzrmk/status/686143850348331008/photo/1 (Another one)


Since it's been only like one day, everything is still possible. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sagume quite high, though.
The fortune teller's doing better than Rinnosuke. I'm laughing so hard. (I saw a lot of people on my Japanese twitter timeline comment that he'll probably do well this poll, because Forbidden Scrollery Volume 4 came out between now and the last one, so more people have read Chapter 25.)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: ふねん1 on January 10, 2016, 05:28:57 PM
Oh look the music poll finally has a shred of credibility now. :V

Characters
1. Konpaku Youmu
2. Reiuji Utsuho
3. Hakurei Reimu
4. Tatara Kogasa
5. Kirisame Marisa
6. Yakumo Yukari
7. Kijin Seija

Music (in no particular order except for #1)
1. Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion
2. A Maiden's Illusionary Funeral ~ Necro-Fantasy
3. Beware the Umbrella Left There Forever
4. Faraway 380,000-Kilometer Voyage
5. Sky of Scarlet Perception
6. Lullaby of Deserted Hell
7. Magical Storm
8. Absorbed in Curiosity Year-Round
9. Midnight Spell Card
10. The Mysterious Shrine Maiden Flying Through Space

Works
1. Touhou Chireiden (Subterranean Animism)
2. Touhou Fuujinroku (Mountain of Faith)
3. Touhou Kishinjou (Double Dealing Character)
4. Yousei Daisensou (Great Fairy Wars)
5. Touhou Youyoumu (Perfect Cherry Blossom)

Questionnaire
1. 27
2. Male
3. Outside Japan: North America
4. EoSD: Lunatic clear
    PCB: Lunatic clear
    IN: Lunatic clear
    PoFV: Not played
    MoF: Lunatic clear
    SA: Lunatic clear
    UFO: Lunatic clear
    TD: Lunatic clear
    DDC: Lunatic clear
    LoLK Pointdevice: Lunatic clear
    LoLK Legacy: No Easy clear (what can I say, haven't been that interested in doing this mode)
5. "Don't buy" for all three
6. Music, Games, and Universe/Setting
7. UFO ~ FW (2010/08) (specifically, November 2009)
8. Youtube
9. Do not participate
10. Voted past 4+ years
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 10, 2016, 06:44:45 PM
Someone made a simple exit poll. They're just from people who tweeted their votes, iirc.
Since it's been only like one day, everything is still possible. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sagume quite high, though.
Problem with the tweets is when you click on the Tweet button, it only takes two of the characters you voted for. Mine displayed Shinmyoumaru and Mokou, but Yuuka was the one in 1st place.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Quwanti on January 10, 2016, 07:02:09 PM
Problem with the tweets is when you click on the Tweet button, it only takes two of the characters you voted for. Mine displayed Shinmyoumaru and Mokou, but Yuuka was the one in 1st place.
Yeah, the characters displayed is a bit weird. Sometimes they show all of them, sometimes five, and sometimes only two.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: kevin1127 on January 10, 2016, 07:58:26 PM
I take my words back when I said Clownpiece has the highest popularity out of all LoLK characters, although I don't think I'd said something like that, but...
Damn, Sagume is gonna be the second Kokoro?
And it looks like this time it's still gonna be Reimu vs Koishi, Marisa has totally no chance
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Raikaria on January 10, 2016, 08:59:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/WXyVVLr.png)

Supreme Judge of Paradise, San Andreas

How did you get the lists in English?

I mean I guess I can muddle through with characters; but the music might be harder.

Edit: Got it. Use Google Webpage Translate.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 10, 2016, 09:03:00 PM
Google Translate/Chrome Translator.

Although, be aware you will get some things like this (https://translate.google.be/#ja/en/%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%A3%E6%98%A0%E5%A7%AB%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A4%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B6%E3%83%8A%E3%83%89%E3%82%A5)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Lefkada on January 10, 2016, 09:08:58 PM
Done. Thanks Drake for translations.

Personnal vote:
Characters:
1- Kagerou
2- Byakuren
3- Wakasagihime
4- Mokou
5- Yuyuko
6- Clownpiece
7- Koakuma

Musics:
1- Let's live in a lovely cemetery
2- Greenwichin the Sky
3- Innocent Treasure
4- Border of Life
5- Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke
6- Cosmic Mind
7- Bamboo Forest of the Full Moon
8- Faraway 380,000-Kilometer Voyage
9- Little Princess
10- The Sea Where One's Home Planet Reflects

Works:
1- Perfect Cherry Blossom
2- Imperishable Night
3- Double Dealing Character
4- Trojan Green Astero?d
5- Neo Traditionalism of Japan
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Raikaria on January 10, 2016, 09:34:29 PM
Characters

1: Seija
2: Yuuka
3: Seiga
4: Kogasa
5: Shinki
6: Sanae
7: Rumia


Basically the same as last time with some movement. I'm a sucker for the villains and less redeemable characters. Notably there's a spread of characters across games and 'eras'.

Music

1: Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke [Mokou's Theme - IN]
2: Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom - Nuclear Fusion [Utusho's Theme; SA]
3: Magical Storm [DDC Stage 4 theme]
4: Forbidden Magic [Yuki and Mai's theme; Mystic Square]
5: Staking your Life on a Prank [GFW Stage 1+2 Boss]
[This is where it got hard]
6: Reverse Ideology [Seija's Theme]
7: Old Yuanxien [Seiga's Theme; Ten Desires]
8: The Grimoire of Alice [Alice's Theme - Mystic Square Extra]
9: Strawberry Crisis!! [PoDD Yumemi]

And here's where the choice was almost impossible:

10: Spirit Battle - Perdition Crisis [LLS; Elly's theme]

I'm sure this has changed since my last vote; except the number 1 [I consider Reach for the Moon a MASTERPIECE]. The other contenders for 10th were:

Faith is for the Transient People
Mary; the Magician
The Venerable Ancient Battlefield ~ Suwa Foughten Field
Primordial Beat ~ Pristine Beat
Youkai Back Shrine Road
Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator


Notably I don't rate EoSD or PCB's soundtracks anywhere in the Top 10. Although if it was a Top 25/30 a lot of their tracks would suddenly jump in.

But seriously I can give you a top 9. But I feel really bad decideing a \10 because there's quite a lot of things I could put there just depending on mood. Also nothing from Touhou 14 even comes close.

Works

1: Imperishable Night
2: Double Dealing Character
3: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
4: Mystic Square
5: Undefined Fantastic Object
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: ZM on January 11, 2016, 01:53:50 AM
1. Sanae
2. Reimu
3. Yuyuko
4. Suwako
5. Nue
6. Utsuho
7. Marisa
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Quukii on January 11, 2016, 03:13:45 AM
It's cool how there's a section for voting for works now.

Characters:
- Satori (1st)
- Shikieiki
- Reimu
- Remilia
- Mononobe no Futo
- Suwako
- Koakuma

Music:
- Kagome Kagome (1st)
- The Inevitably Forbidden Game
- Interdimensional Voyage of a Ghostly Passenger Ship
- Alice in Wonderland
- Loose Rain
- Last Remote
- Alice Maestra
- Doll Judgement
- Charming Domination
- Let's Live in a Lovely Cemetery

Works:
- EoSD (1st)
- PoFV
- LLS
- GFW
- UFO
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 11, 2016, 03:32:54 AM
Characters:

1) Aya Shameimaru
2) Reisen Udongein Inaba
3) Toyosatomimi no Miko
4) Iku Nagae
5) Eiki Shiki, San Andreas at Law
6) Kasen Ibaraki
7) Clownpiece

Music

1) Wind God Girl (BAiJR ver.)
2) Lunatic Eyes ~ Invisible Full Moon (IN ver.)
3) Doll Judgment ~ The Girl Who Played with People's Shapes (PCB ver.)
4) The Capital City of Flowers in the Sky
5) Fires of Hokkai
6) Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator (TD ver.)
7) Eastern Judgement in the Sixtieth Year ~ Fate of Sixty Years
8) Cemetery of Onbashira ~ Grave of Being
9) Emotional Skyscraper ~ Cosmic Mind (UFO ver.)
10) Starry Sky of Small Desires

Works:

1) StB
2) PoFV
3) IN
4) TD
5) SA

Caw caw, motherfuckers.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Jimmy on January 11, 2016, 03:52:49 AM

Characters:
1) Shinmyoumaru Sukuna
? Junko
? Mononobe no Futo
? Doremy Sweet
? Utsuho Reiuji
? Satori Komeiji
? Benben Tsukumo

Musics:
1) Pure Furies ~ Whereabouts of the Heart
? Inchling of the Shining Needle ~ Little Princess (DDC)
? The Sea Where One's Home Planet Reflects
? Eternal Spring Dream
? Satori Maiden ~ 3rd eye
? Pierrot of the Star-Spangled Banner
? Gensokyo Millenium ~ History of the Moon
? Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator (TD)
? Native Faith
? Primordial Beat ~ Pristine Beat

Works:
1) Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom
? Double Dealing Character
? Perfect Cherry Blossoms
? Mountain of Faith
? Subterranean Animism
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Jeremie on January 11, 2016, 05:22:10 AM
Characters

1. Eirin Yagokoro
2. Ichirin Kumoi
3. Iku Nagae
4. Akyuu no Hieda
5. Komachi Onozuka
6. Tenshi Hinanawi
7. Reisen Udongein Inaba

Music

1. Akutagawa Ryuunosuke's Kappa ~ Candid Friend (ULiL)
2. Dream Palace of the Great Mausoleum (TD)
3. Desire Drive (TD)
4. The Gensokyo the Gods Loved (MoF)
5. At the End of the Spring (UFO)
6. A Tiny, Tiny, Clever Commander (UFO)
7. Last Remote (SA)
8. Gensokyo Millenium ~ History of the Moon (IN)
9. The Primal Scene of Japan the Girl Watched (MoF)
10. Catastrophe in Bhava-agra ~ Wonderful Heaven (SWR)

Works

1. Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
2. Cage in Lunatic Runagate
3. Hopeless Masquerade
4. Forbidden Scrollery
5. Ten Desires

Can't wait to poke fun at the results!*

*:
Regardless of what the results are. I like to poke fun harmlessly at the poll results. In fact I think I'd poke fun at it even more if the near-impossible happened and Eirin made it 1st since I'd poke fun at myself just as much.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: SirSlarty on January 11, 2016, 05:43:48 AM
https://twitter.com/kzrmk/status/686143850348331008

Am I reading this tweet right that Sagume and Clownpiece's votes are suspected of being "enhanced"?
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 11, 2016, 06:37:39 AM
Suspicion of being fiddled with in general, but mainly those two. It's also just their impressions of things, but it's likely based on the lightest blue portion being all the votes in the past hour and a half. They're saying it seems like a lot. But because it's being collected by twitter mentions it should be somewhat straightforward to validate if they can find accounts that are clearly dummies.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Flandre5carlet on January 11, 2016, 11:15:25 AM
Wonder just how high Memepiece is going to rank...  :X
Anyways, voted. Ranked in order.

Characters:
1. Houraisan Kaguya
2. Flandre Scarlet
3. Reisen Udongein Inaba
4. Izayoi Sakuya
5. Shikieiki Yamaxanadu
6. Shameimaru Aya
7. Usami Renko

Music:
1. Voyage 1970 (IN)
2. Phantasm Machine ~ Phantom Factory (Changeability)
3. Lunar Clock ~ Luna Dial (EoSD)
4. Futatsuiwa from Sado (TD)
5. U.N. Owen was her? (EoSD)
6. Lunatic Eyes ~ Invisible Full Moon (IN)
7. Night Falls ~ Evening Star (IaMP)
8. Neo-Super Express (Retrospective)
9. The Purest Sky and Sea (Retrospective)
10. Far Side of the Moon (Magical Astronomy)

Works:
1. Imperishable Night
2. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
3. Great Fairy Wars
4. Forbidden Scrollery
5. Cage in Lunatic Runagate.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Shadowlupus on January 11, 2016, 12:35:54 PM
I wonder if the LoLK casts gonna make it to the top 25.

All are voted in order.

Characters:
1. Imaizumi Kagerou
2. Clownpiece
3. Kijin Seija
4. Sekibanki
5. Hecatia Lapislazuli
6. Doremy Sweet
7. Wakasagihime

Music:
1. Bamboo Forest of the Full Moon
2. Romantic Escape Flight
3. Eternal Spring Dream
4. The Frozen Eternal Capital
5. Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator (ULiL)
6. Emotional Skyscraper ~ Cosmic Mind  (ULiL)
7. Bell of the Antipodes
8. The Pierrot of the Star-Spangled Banner
9. Faraway 380,000-Kilometer Voyage
10. The Reversed Wheel of Fortune

Works:
1. Double Dealing Character
2. Imperishable Night
3. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
4. Legacy of Lunatic Kindom
5. Urban Legend in Limbo
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Plastic Vortex on January 11, 2016, 12:44:06 PM
Wow people like Sagume. Myself included.
Characters:
1. Koishi Komeiji
2. Hata no Kokoro
3. Sagume Kishin
4. Satori Komeiji
5. Clownpiece
6. Kogasa Tatara
7. Youmu Konpaku

Music:
1. The Eternal Frozen Capital
2. Hartmann's Youkai Girl (HM)
3. Lost Emotion (ULiL)
4. Pumpkin of September
5. Dichromatic Lotus Butterfly ~ Red White
6. Oriental Sky of Scarlet Perception
7. Centennial Festival for the Magical Girls
8. Eternal Spring Dream
9. Wind God's Girl
10. Winds of Agartha

Works:
1. Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom
2. Forbidden Scrollery
3. Double Dealing Character
4. Wild and Horned Hermit
5. Urban Legend in Limbo
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Helepolis on January 11, 2016, 02:53:24 PM
I am unsure about this year's popularity. I do expect Koishi to lose her #1 spot, but whether Marisa or Reimu claims it is unknown.

As newcomers I have some expectations from Sagume and Junko. Mainly because they spawn a lot of art. Especially Sagume for some reason lately has increase in art work.

The music section, no idea. Don't expect Septette to claim back #1.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: ShadowNCS on January 12, 2016, 05:16:47 PM
Not much has changed for me since last year, but we had more spaces to vote with, so at least that helped me with... not including any newcomers...
Anyway!

Characters:
? Marisa
? Mima
? Yuuka
? Patchouli
? Shinmyoumaru
? Kokoro
? Flandre

Songs:
? Last Remote
? Kobito of the Shining Needle ~ Little Princess
? Magus Night
? Gensokyo Past and Present ~ Flower Land
? Vessel of Stars ~ Casket of Star
? Infinite Being
? Lost Emotion
? Higan Retour ~ Riverside View
? Magician's Melancholy
? G Free

Works:
? Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
? Double Dealing Character
? Urban Legend in Limbo (until the next fighting game comes out, anyway)
? Mystic Square
? Touhou Sangetsusei [barely beat Touhou Kourindou]
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: 7TC7 on January 12, 2016, 06:09:10 PM
Characters:

Music:

Works:
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Omicriel on January 12, 2016, 07:49:11 PM
Characters
Meira
Parsee
Seija
Junko
Sanae
Sariel
Futo

Too worn out to remember my list of music or favorite games. I hope that Koishi retains her #1 spot over Reimu (or any of my favorites take her place!).
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: cerulean_blues on January 12, 2016, 08:23:55 PM
Characters

Sanae
Alice
Yuuka
Koakuma
Kaguya
Byakuren
Reimu


Music

Dream Land
Shangai Alice of Meiji 17
Nostalgic Blood of the East
Wind God Girl
Doll of Misery
Faith is for the Transient People
U.N. Owen was Her
Tiny Tiny Clever Commander
Doll Judgement (IaMP)
Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke

Forgot about Fall of Fall :wat:
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Neshima on January 12, 2016, 09:25:51 PM
Characters :
1. Hecatia Lapislazuli
2. Raiko Horikawa
3. Satori Komeiji
4. Sumireko Usami
5. Clownpiece
6. Mai
7. Star Sapphire

Music :
1. Bell of Avici ~ Infinite Nightmare (UF,MJ ver.)
2. Eternal Shrine Maiden (HRtP ver.)
3. Last Occultism ~ Esotericist of the Present World (ULiL)
4. Pandemonic Planet (LoLK)
5. Satori Maiden ~ 3rd Eye (SA)
6. Those Who Know the Truth (ULiL)
7. Eternal Short-Lived Reign (ISC)
8. Shanghai Teahouse ~ Chinese Tea (CoSD ver.)
9. Necrofantasia (MA ver.)
10. Legend of Aokigahara (R53M)

Works :
1. Urban Legend in Limbo
2. Forbidden Scrollery
3. Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom
4. Magical Astronomy
5. Retrospective 53 Minutes

Too bad there isn't a 8th place for Nitori.  :ohdear:
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Sakurei on January 13, 2016, 05:40:25 AM
Characters:

1. Youmu
2. Alice
3. Satori
4. Reimu
5. Hataters
6. Luna Child
7. Sunny

Tracks:

1. Nuclear Fusion
2. Hartmann's Youkai Girl
3. Riverside view
4. Last Remote
5. Sky of Scarlet Perception
6. Pocket Watch of Blood
7. Dark Flight
8. Usa Shrine
9. Luna Dial
10. UFO Romance

Works:

1. IN
2. PoDD
3. PCB
4. PoFV
5. EoSD
(6. GFW)

That other thing:

12
girl
Europe
EoSD-TD: Luna clear
DDC: Normal clear
LoLK: Haven't played
Don't buy 3x
Games & Characters (and porn)
SA ~ UFO (2009/08)
Online Friends
Do not participate
First time, please be gentle
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: N-Forza on January 13, 2016, 03:13:08 PM
Characters:
Aya (+1)
Iku
Lyrica
Raiko
Sakuya
Rinnosuke
Clownpiece

Songs:
Wind God Girl (+1)
Chinese Tea
Emotional Skyscraper
Phantom Ensemble
Dancing Water Spray
Touhou Hisoten
Greenwich in the Sky
Retrospective Kyoto
Broken Moon
Love-Colored Master Spark (original)

Works:
PCB (+1)
Kourindo
Hisotenzoku
Double Spoiler
Forbidden Scrollery
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2016, 02:57:23 AM
Characters:
Keine
Reimu
Mokou
Nitori
Akyu
Marisa
Satori

Music:
Bloom Nobly, Ink-Black Cherry Blossom ~ Border of Life
Shanghai Alice of Meiji 17
Night Sakura of Dead Spirits
Faith Is for the Transient People
The Dark Blowhole
Fires of Hokkai
At the End of Spring
Humans and Youkai Traversing the Canal
Reverse Ideology
Inchlings of the Shining Needle ~ Little Princess

Works:
Perfect Cherry Blossom (has unseated Imperishable Night as my favorite Touhou game in the last year)
Imperishable Night
Phantasmagoria of Flower View
Hisoutensoku
Forbidden Scrollery

Questionnaire answered.

Man, I didn't give LoLK anything. I guess I just don't like it that much. It's too hard for me and I just haven't seen that much of it yet because I'm mad at it for kicking my ass so much. I haven't really warmed up to any of the characters yet either though.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Aya Reiko on January 14, 2016, 07:22:03 AM
My 7--
#1: Udonge
2 - 7: Marisa, Yukari, Sanae, Kogasa, Byakuren, Cirno

Music
#1: Nuclear Fusion
2-10 :Necrofantasia, Lunatic Princess, Wind God Girl, Flowering Night, Luna Dial, Tomboyish Girl in Love, Heian Alien, Love-Colored Master Spark, Maiden's Capriccio

Didn't touch Works.  I only played EoSD, PoFV, and the fighters.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Nolegs the Cat on January 14, 2016, 08:47:30 AM
Characters:
1) Eirin Yagokoro
2) Byakuren Hijri
3) Reimu Hakurei (Dethrone Koishi! *knived*)
4) Yuyuko Saigyouji
5) Kaguya Houraisan

Music:
1) Descendant of the Inchlings ~ Little Princess
2) Septette for the Dead Princess
3) Cosmic Mind

Works:
1) Perfect Cherry Blossom
2) Imperishable Night
3) Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
4) Mountain of bombs Faith
5) Double Dealing Character

I was too lazy to use every spot.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 14, 2016, 12:07:05 PM
Characters:
Aya (+1)

Songs:
Wind God Girl (+1)

I knew I liked you for a reason.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 14, 2016, 12:41:33 PM
I just noticed I didn't post my top, I probably failed a copy/paste.

Characters :
Yuuka (1st)
Mokou
Shinmyoumaru
Medicine
Suika
Nitori
Yuugi

Songs :
Shanghai Teahouse ~ Chinese Tea (1st)
Kid's Festival ~ Innocent Treasures
Wind God Girl
Hiroshige n?36 ~ Neo Super-Express
Blue Sea of 53 Minutes
Gensokyo, Past and Present ~ Flower Land
Native Faith
Deaf to All but the Song
Fall of Fall ~ Autumnal Waterfall
Ghostly Band ~ Phantom Ensemble
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Hello Purvis on January 15, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
Do your duty. (https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2242114)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Delfigamer on January 15, 2016, 08:40:02 PM
Just put the top 7 from my touhousort (http://forum.sos-dan.ru/showthread.php?p=136742#post136742):
Maribel Hearn
Yukari Yakumo
Renko Usami
Fujiwara no Mokou
Chen
Koishi Komeiji
Hieda no Akyuu

Don't have a rating among music and games, though.

Do your duty. (https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2242114)
Nope.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: ZM on January 15, 2016, 10:47:24 PM
Edited my character vote to swap Clownpiece for Marisa. Here's the other information.

Songs:
Tomorrow Will Be Sunny
Gensokyo Millennium
Suwa Foughten Field
Phantom Ensemble
Hartmann's Youkai Girl
Nuclear Fusion
Necrofantasia
Ink-Black Cherry: Border of Life
Cosmic Mind
Dark Road

Works:
UFO
MoF
PCB
SA
Soku

Questionnaire:
18
Male
North America
EoSD: Lunatic
PCB: Lunatic
IN: Hard
PoFV: N/A
MoF: Lunatic
SA: Lunatic
UFO: Lunatic
TD: Lunatic
DDC: Hard
LoLK (PD): N/A
LoLK (Legacy): Lunatic
Written Works: N/A
Attracted to the series for the games, the characters, and the music
Got into the series around when DDC was released
Introduced to the series due to online friends
Do not participate
Voted in 1-3 times in the past
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Uruwi on January 16, 2016, 05:22:53 AM
Do your duty. (https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2242114)

Sorry, I used up all my votes.

But Kisume.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: SirSlarty on January 16, 2016, 05:29:15 AM
Look like Kisume bottomed out.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Ps on January 16, 2016, 06:27:28 AM
I finally got around to voting.

Character #1: Alice
Runners up: Reimu, Patchy, Youmu, Sanae, Hatate, Kosuzu

Music #1: IN Stage 4
Runners up: IN Stages 1, 3, & 5, DDC Stages 3 & 4, PCB Stage 5, Sekibanki's theme, Keine's theme, EoSD title screen

Work #1: Double Dealing Character
Runners up: Imperishable Night, Forbidden Scrollery, Three Fairies, EoSD

I considered not voting for EoSD, since I don't really want it to win 1st, but nostalgia won out.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Quwanti on January 16, 2016, 05:12:23 PM
Voting has ended. In the comments here (http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohomemory/archives/46582085.html) you can see the exit poll, generated from twitter results.

Alternatively, there is this (https://twitter.com/kzrmk/status/688368163893805056/photo/1).
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: hkBattousai on January 16, 2016, 06:46:59 PM
When will it happyou suru?
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Komeiji11 on January 17, 2016, 08:53:53 AM
NO!!! Koishi has been dethroned and Reimu's back on top again  :(

It is interesting to see Sagume in the top 10 though. From what I can tell Clownpiece is around rank 25 and I expected her to be more popular.

Anybody willing to explain how Sagume got her popularity though? I think she's a really interesting character with an interesting ability, I just don't feel like I've seen her around a whole lot though...

Edit: Hmm, the twitter picture and the comment post with the rankings seem a bit different...
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 17, 2016, 09:22:51 AM
Sagume has been popular in Japan since release. America just thinks Clownpiece is more popular than she is for what should be obvious reasons.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Helepolis on January 17, 2016, 10:16:15 AM
Sagume expected to rank high. As I said in my previous post, pixiv spawned a lot of artwork about her. If you say you haven't seen her around, then I think you have been looking in the wrong places. (Danbooru isn't necessary a good place, because it doesn't reflect popularity).

Koishi being #1 last year felt like a mistake or good troll. Mainly because the voting was disrupted or something. Can't remember exactly what happened again. Either way, Reimu claims her thrown again. Still no idea what Koishi is doing above Marisa :V

Also:

Quote from: 12th Touhou series popularity
> 1 478 亡き王女の為のセプテット
Now I honestly wasn't expecting Septette to reclaim the throne again. Top 5 for sure but not so quickly back as #1.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 17, 2016, 10:17:50 AM
Are you all refering to the exit poll, or did the results get posted somewhere I can't find?

EDIT : Nevermind, I saw on the site results will be posted on 21st.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: kevin1127 on January 17, 2016, 07:41:08 PM
Honestly both Koishi and Sagume's popularities are reasonable

Since Koishi went from 14th to 3rd in 2014 due to HM, people should had been aware that with ULiL, Koishi had a very high potential of dethroning Reimu.
And she did get 1st place, and I was not very surprised, but I don't understand why many people were shocked.
If jumping from 14th to 3rd due to HM could happen, it's not surprising that she jumped from 3rd to 1st with ULiL.....

Sagume is higher than Clownpiece is not surprising either. She is nice looking, has an interesting ability, and has a good personality (judging from her profile). Being in a Lunar Capital officer, she can be used in many Lunarian story. And being an amanojaku, she can be paired up with Seija.... There are so much things that fandom can do with Sagume. One thing to note is that it's not clear if she can get into top 10 or not.
And Clownpiece probably will be in 2xth place, which is fair enough.

BTW, what went wrong last year was in music category only. There was no problem with character's voting.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Gpop on January 17, 2016, 08:18:16 PM
Still kinda surprised Koishi is still top 3 (second place in this case) because I thought her popularity would just be a fad, but I guess people still really like her in this case :V

Not surprised with Reimu dethroning her since after last year a lot of Reimu fans wouldn't want her to win again (also because of main character popularity).

We'll see by the 21st how this will end. There's definitely a lot of silent voters so it's still very subject to change (kinda expecting Koishi to end up in 3rd realistically, since it's still surprising to see her above Marisa and not too far off from Reimu).
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Helepolis on January 17, 2016, 10:12:39 PM
BTW, what went wrong last year was in music category only. There was no problem with character's voting.
Ah, my apologies then for the confusion. Glad I got corrected. That was indeed with the music voting.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 18, 2016, 03:48:08 AM
Honestly both Koishi and Sagume's popularities are reasonable

Since Koishi went from 14th to 3rd in 2014 due to HM, people should had been aware that with ULiL, Koishi had a very high potential of dethroning Reimu.
And she did get 1st place, and I was not very surprised, but I don't understand why many people were shocked.
Just because you're not surprised doesn't mean other people shouldn't be surprised.  Reimu has been no. 1 for several years in a row, and suddenly, a character who doesn't have a whole lot of presence and contribution to the series as a whole taking first place is obviously a big surprise to many people.  Getting very high up may not be the biggest surprise, but to suddenly get first place is something to be surprised about.  Even if it's not surprising, it's not something you can look at with a straight face and say, "That was obvious.  Saw this coming..."

Having a large amount of fan following doesn't always guarantee a spot in something.  I've seen people who argued that the Wii Fit Trainer being in SSB4 isn't surprising at all due to Wii Fit selling very well, but it is considered a flawed argument.  Because of the concept of Wii Fit, people with the right mind would most likely never think it is something that deserves a playable representation.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: kevin1127 on January 18, 2016, 04:50:13 AM
Just because you're not surprised doesn't mean other people shouldn't be surprised.
Yes you are right and I understand this.
Quote
a character who doesn't have a whole lot of presence and contribution to the series as a whole
ಠ_ಠ ummm.........
Quote
it's not something you can look at with a straight face and say, "That was obvious.  Saw this coming..."
It's not like "saw this coming"; it's more like "this is fairly possible"
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 18, 2016, 08:12:24 AM
.ಠ_ಠ ummm.........
Koishi is really only relevant to the games she appeared in, not to the entire series.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Ps on January 18, 2016, 05:17:36 PM
Koishi appears in every game, but no one's noticed her
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kirin no Sora on January 19, 2016, 12:22:10 AM
Since I missed in voting this year(my inner Rin Satsuki is still mad at the polls not acknowledging her existence), I figure that I should post the results for the character poll here for those who simply don't want to bother clicking on the links...

1 1061 博麗 霊夢
2 962 古明地 こいし
3 891 霧雨 魔理沙
4 787 フランドール・スカーレット
5 784 古明地 さとり
6 738 レミリア・スカーレット
7 710 十六夜 咲夜
8 695 魂魄 妖夢
9 688 アリス・マーガトロイド
10 677 射命丸 文
11 674 稀神 サグメ
12 649 藤原 妹紅
13 580 比那名居 天子
14 565 秦 こころ
15 557 東風谷 早苗
16 536 宇佐見 蓮子
17 467 西行寺 幽々子
18 461 パチュリー・ノーレッジ
19 459 多々良 小傘
20 449 鈴仙・優曇華院・イナバ
21 431 クラウンピース
22 429 八雲 紫
23 426 ルーミア
24 416 犬走 椛
25 416 風見 幽香
26 375 封獣 ぬえ
27 360 鬼人 正邪
28 357 純狐
29 353 河城 にとり
30 346 紅 美鈴
31 338 水橋 パルスィ
32 335 四季映姫・ヤマザナドゥ
33 321 茨木 華扇
34 317 物部 布都
35 314 聖 白蓮
36 310 マエリベリー・ハーン
37 309 霊烏路 空
38 303 豊聡耳 神子
39 303 今泉 影狼
40 300 洩矢 諏訪子
41 298 宇佐見 菫子
42 292 八雲 藍
43 288 ナズーリン
44 270 鍵山 雛
45 263 チルノ
46 257 上白沢 慧音
47 244 少名 針妙丸
48 244 永江 衣玖
49 244 霍 青娥
50 243 伊吹 萃香
51 241 本居 小鈴
52 240 ミスティア・ローレライ
53 219 ヘカーティア・ラピスラズリ
54 217 赤蛮奇
55 214 火焔猫 燐
56 214 蓬莱山 輝夜
57 203 橙
58 199 二ッ岩 マミゾウ
59 198 ドレミー・スイート
60 194 小野塚 小町
61 188 姫海棠 はたて
62 186 小悪魔
63 184 稗田 阿求
64 169 堀川 雷鼓
65 168 村紗 水蜜
66 165 幽谷 響子
67 162 寅丸 星
68 161 ルナサ・プリズムリバー
69 150 岡崎 夢美
70 149 大妖精
71 148 易者
72 145 わかさぎ姫
73 136 八意 永琳
74 134 星熊 勇儀
75 132 因幡 てゐ
76 131 神綺
77 130 蘇我 屠自古
78 129 メディスン・メランコリー
79 129 宮古 芳香
80 127 秋 静葉
81 123 黒谷 ヤマメ
82 119 森近 霖之助
83 112 鈴瑚
84 112 八坂 神奈子
85 102 秋 穣子
86 100 リグル・ナイトバグ
87 97 雲居 一輪
88 96 レティ・ホワイトロック
89 92 ルナチャイルド
90 83 魅魔
91 83 綿月 依姫
92 79 スターサファイア
93 73 清蘭
94 68 幻月
95 62 サニーミルク
96 62 リリカ・プリズムリバー
97 62 九十九 弁々
98 59 カナ・アナベラル
99 56 九十九 八橋
100 56 蓬莱人形ジャケット・レーベルイラストの娘
101 56 キスメ

I technically had figured out all but three of names listed here(71, 76 and 94). Can anyone tell me what those three are?
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Uruwi on January 19, 2016, 12:23:41 AM
71 is a "diviner".
76 is Shinki.
94 is Gengetsu.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kirin no Sora on January 19, 2016, 12:35:29 AM
Thanks for the quick assist.

As for what I can see, the only reason that Koishi is not first this year is because she's too busy tag teaming with Flandre to perform an "imouto sandwich" on Marisa. Meanwhile, Satori, Koishi's big sister, is caught in a "Scarlet Sister Sandwich", which includes the aforementioned Flandre...

Why do I sense that SDM x Chireiden is going to be a thing now?
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: kevin1127 on January 19, 2016, 01:59:30 AM
I figure that I should post the results for the character poll here for those who simply don't want to bother clicking on the links...
I think this is just an exit poll, aka the result of only those people who posted their votes on twitter. (I wonder if this exit poll fixed those "Satori-type mistakes")
The true result should be a little different
And, 71 is fortune teller from FS 25
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: zero_breaker on January 19, 2016, 02:09:30 AM
71 is a "diviner".
I'm pretty sure that's the one that get their head smashed by Reimu in FS Chapter 25.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Ps on January 19, 2016, 02:27:54 AM
Spoilers
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: monhan on January 19, 2016, 02:36:03 AM
Sagume expected to rank high. As I said in my previous post, pixiv spawned a lot of artwork about her. If you say you haven't seen her around, then I think you have been looking in the wrong places. (Danbooru isn't necessary a good place, because it doesn't reflect popularity).

Honestly both Koishi and Sagume's popularities are reasonable

Sagume is higher than Clownpiece is not surprising either. She is nice looking, has an interesting ability, and has a good personality (judging from her profile). Being in a Lunar Capital officer, she can be used in many Lunarian story. And being an amanojaku, she can be paired up with Seija.... There are so much things that fandom can do with Sagume. One thing to note is that it's not clear if she can get into top 10 or not.
And Clownpiece probably will be in 2xth place, which is fair enough.

BTW, what went wrong last year was in music category only. There was no problem with character's voting.

You guys all know that Jeno's Sagu-nee (https://web.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153513688169020.1073741837.9565239019&type=3&hc_location=ufi) is the start of all this.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2lc215e.png)
Also, how wrong the last page  (https://web.facebook.com/THProject/photos/a.10153513688169020.1073741837.9565239019/10153513727254020/?type=3&permPage=1)ends up being.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: SirSlarty on January 19, 2016, 04:34:40 AM
I like Sagume but hate Seija.

I find that characters I don't like are danmaku based.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 19, 2016, 06:14:52 AM
Again, just noting that the official results are projected to be released on the 21st.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 19, 2016, 04:34:29 PM
Anyone interested in the statistics surrounding the Touhou Popularity Poll should take a look at this thread by tryourbreast:
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19211.0.html

Seriously worth a read.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: CyberAngel on January 19, 2016, 05:44:11 PM
As for what I can see, the only reason that Koishi is not first this year is because she's too busy tag teaming with Flandre to perform an "imouto sandwich" on Marisa. Meanwhile, Satori, Koishi's big sister, is caught in a "Scarlet Sister Sandwich", which includes the aforementioned Flandre...

Why do I sense that SDM x Chireiden is going to be a thing now?

It's been one for a long time already. How do you think they've coordinated this trick? :)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 20, 2016, 11:55:32 AM
Since Sagume is likely more popular than Clownpiece, I'm looking forward to seeing Danbooru's reactions when fan arts show up tomorrow !
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: PK on January 20, 2016, 12:19:58 PM
Since Sagume is likely more popular than Clownpiece, I'm looking forward to seeing Danbooru's reactions when fan arts show up tomorrow !
Especially after this (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2099431)  :V
(danbooru link)

Also, just to know, the exit polls based on twitter are based on all the 7 votes or just the vote for the top character?
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kirin no Sora on January 20, 2016, 03:16:23 PM
It's been one for a long time already. How do you think they've coordinated this trick? :)

So the whole thing of Satori becoming popular this year is "just as planned" by the Scarlet sisters?

...I think I just realized how Remilia's "manipulation of fate" power works...
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 20, 2016, 04:44:46 PM
Also, just to know, the exit polls based on twitter are based on all the 7 votes or just the vote for the top character?
Neither of them, tweets included two/three of the seven characters you voted for, with no indication of the character getting two points.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Aya Reiko on January 20, 2016, 06:52:10 PM

-snip-


Source please.  I'm looking around their own site and I'm finding bupkis.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 20, 2016, 07:19:39 PM
It's just an exit poll that was posted over Twitter, not the official results.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 21, 2016, 03:32:15 AM
It's just an exit poll that was posted over Twitter, not the official results.
I know, but it may still give one an idea on how the official one may look like.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 21, 2016, 11:44:02 AM
Official results are out!

http://tohovote12.b12.coreserver.jp/result_list_character.php
http://tohovote12.b12.coreserver.jp/result_list_music.php
http://tohovote12.b12.coreserver.jp/result_list_title.php
http://tohovote12.b12.coreserver.jp/result_list_questionnaire.php
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 21, 2016, 12:06:33 PM
Oh man, 2nd and 3rd were super close. Kinda surprising how little change there was in the character order, I can't see any huge drop or boost.

(http://i.imgur.com/e1bnNAD.jpg)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 21, 2016, 12:09:49 PM
YES

GET FUCKED KOISHI
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: PK on January 21, 2016, 12:16:35 PM
Who's number 105?
蓬莱人形ジャケット・レーベルイラストの娘   

Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 21, 2016, 12:25:05 PM
I think it's the girl on the cover of Dolls in Pseudo Paradise. (http://i.imgur.com/NSPaD2N.jpg)

Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Plubio on January 21, 2016, 12:30:49 PM
YES

GET FUCKED KOISHI

You don't know me but I love you.
--

I love everyone who voted for Tenshi and Miko as well.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: ZM on January 21, 2016, 12:32:40 PM
Top 50:
1. Reimu Hakurei
2. Marisa Kirisame
3. Koishi Komeiji
4. Sakuya Izayoi
5. Flandre Scarlet
6. Youmu Konpaku
7. Remilia Scarlet
8. Satori Komeiji
9. Alice Margatroid
10. Aya Shameimaru
11. Fujiwara no Mokou
12. Sanae Kochiya
13. Tenshi Hinanawi
14. Sagume Kishin
15. Hata no Kokoro
16. Yuyuko Saigyouji
17. Reisen Udongein Inaba
18. Yukari Yakumo
19. Yuuka Kazami
20. Patchouli Knowledge
21. Momiji Inubashiri
22. Kogasa Tatara
23. Clownpiece
24. Hong Meiling
25. Rumia
26. Eiki Shiki, Yamaxanadu
27. Seija Kijin
28. Renko Usami
29. Utsuho Reiuji
30. Parsee Mizuhashi
31. Junko
32. Mononobe no Futo
33. Nitori Kawashiro
34. Suwako Moriya
35. Cirno
35. Ran Yakumo
37. Toyosatomimi no Miko
38. Nue Houjuu
39. Kasen Ibaraki
40. Byakuren Hijiri
41. Kaguya Houraisan
42. Suika Ibuki
43. Hecatia Lapislazuli
44. Shinmyoumaru Sukuna
45. Nazrin
46. Iku Nagae
47. Keine Kamishirasawa
48. Kagerou Imaizumi
49. Hina Kagiyama
50. Rin Kaenbyou

Byakuren dropped from 26 to 40. That's gotta sting.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Clarste on January 21, 2016, 01:02:18 PM
I'm a bit disappointed that Sagume couldn't make the top 10 after all, although I guess it was a longshot. The top 10 is again as boring as it's ever been now that Koishi has been bumped down.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: monhan on January 21, 2016, 01:16:45 PM
I'm a bit disappointed that Sagume couldn't make the top 10 after all, although I guess it was a longshot. The top 10 is again as boring as it's ever been now that Koishi has been bumped down.

Same. Even though I'm happy that Sagume can at least make it that high for real, and Junko scoring pretty nicely as a new final boss, the rest of the poll results are pretty sad to look at.
And let's not even start with the music poll.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 21, 2016, 01:20:55 PM
Funny stats I just saw on Twitter, dealing with participation :

10th Poll :
Characters : 31040 votes
Music : 23283 votes
Questionnaire : 15494 responses

11th Poll:
Characters :32,244 votes
Music :20,843 votes
Questionnaire :10,636 responses

12nd Poll :
Characters :42,419 votes
Music :32,356 votes
Works :24,742 votes
Questionnaire :18,268 responses

That went up by quite a bit. Note that there was that lost data problem during 11th Poll.

the rest of the poll results are pretty sad to look at.
And let's not even start with the music poll.
Wow, way to judge people's tastes.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Helepolis on January 21, 2016, 01:47:46 PM
Septette not #1. Beaten by her sister. Haha, rektimus maximus.

Also, I echo:  LOLKOISHI.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: monhan on January 21, 2016, 01:50:07 PM

Wow, way to judge people's tastes.
Little Princess dropping pretty fast, and Pure Furies being significantly lower than the preliminary results.

It's almost like it's trying to say "no place for new musics in the top 10". Good thing that Pure Furies managed to take the 10th place, but seeing the trend, it likely won't stay for long in that position.

Yeah, I know that it's still new and people need some time to get more familiar with the new musics, but I'm sure you understand my point.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 21, 2016, 01:51:49 PM
Septette not #1. Beaten by her sister.
Since the last poll.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Helepolis on January 21, 2016, 02:00:27 PM
Since the last poll.
Exit poll made me think she might reclaim the throne. But nope.avi.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kasei on January 21, 2016, 02:28:04 PM
Kaguya's still doing quite poorly which is a shame, and Renko dropped down a bit since last time, too.  At least Lunatic Princess beat History of the Moon for once, and Koishi isn't first, but once again the popular opinions are wrong very different to mine.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 21, 2016, 02:47:30 PM
HOLY SHIT I MISSED THAT MIKO FINALLY OVERTOOK BYAKUREN

THAT'S IT, WE'RE DONE, SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN, THIS IS THE GREATEST POLL EVER
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: hungrybookworm on January 21, 2016, 03:03:54 PM
Really pleased with these results (I think I was pleased last time too, even though Koishi was number one? Maybe I'm too laid back to get salty lol). Reimari one-two! Plus Sagume being high, Forbidden Scrollery beating half the windows games (number 7!) and a big round of applause to the Fortune Teller for getting in there at number 77.

I'm really pleased by the majority of the voters (who filled in the questionnaire) being between 15-19 as well. Touhou is still attracting fresh blood young fans, which means good things for the fandom overall. It's pretty cool looking in the DDC comments and seeing a lot of people say it was their first touhou game.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: N-Forza on January 21, 2016, 03:11:40 PM
I wondered why Febri was struggling as a publication when WaHH seemed pretty popular but if the poll is indicative of anything, everyone pretty much just buys the books instead.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 21, 2016, 03:12:20 PM
Character Poll

Votes: 42,419

Rank  Last  Last2 
Name
Points  Firsts 
121Reimu Hakurei154273255
232Marisa Kirisame109691927
313Koishi Komeiji109132036
444Sakuya Izayoi101951758
555Flandre Scarlet98441701
668Youmu Konpaku96691967
777Remilia Scarlet90911353
899Satori Komeiji88211258
9106Alice Margatroid78341394
101110Aya Shameimaru76251285
11812Fujiwara no Mokou75341144
121211Sanae Kochiya6189947
131317Tenshi Hinanawi5760791
14Sagume Kishin5665368
151415Hata no Kokoro5641446
161514Yuyuko Saigyouji5570915
171623Reisen Udongein Inaba5381607
181716Yukari Yakumo5007685
191813Yuuka Kazami4727688
201918Patchouli Knowledge4495630
212121Momiji Inubashiri4490686
222028Kogasa Tatara4376578
23Clownpiece4333233
242322Hong Meiling4286692
252933Rumia4206671
263131Eiki Shiki, Yamaxanadu3809468
272756Seija Kijin3806452
282237Renko Usami3774399
292419Utsuho Reiuji3590451
302725Parsee Mizuhashi3558574
31Junko3455241
322535Mononobe no Futo3438320
333024Nitori Kawashiro3387439
343326Suwako Moriya3371423
353732Cirno3275550
353627Ran Yakumo3275458
373536Toyosatomimi no Miko3249390
383838Nue Houjuu3219322
393430Kasen Ibaraki3159257
402620Byakuren Hijiri3124313
413929Kaguya Houraisan2830405
424240Suika Ibuki2756309
43Hecatia Lapislazuli2442149
443234Shinmyoumaru Sukuna2412150
454446Nazrin2404265
464139Iku Nagae2307251
474044Keine Kamishirasawa2302256
484642Kagerou Imaizumi2269167
494341Hina Kagiyama2249328
504543Rin Kaenbyou2244216
515047Mystia Lorelei2057284
525162Maribel Hearn195196
5347Sumireko Usami1934128
544945Seiga Kaku1873152
555461Chen1862242
565352Sekibanki1816140
575551Kosuzu Motoori172871
585757Daiyousei1714190
595653Eirin Yagokoro1684155
605250Komachi Onozuka1630156
614855Mamizou Futatsuiwa160199
627071Koakuma1558148
636358Raiko Horikawa1544113
645848Shou Toramaru1530184
656054Hatate Himekaidou152992
666163Yuugi Hoshiguma1524157
676268Tewi Inaba1492138
68Doremy Sweet140063
696959Hieda no Akyuu1391116
706867Kyouko Kasodani1353100
715949Kanako Yasaka1308155
726659Minamitsu Murasa1305141
736769Lunasa Prismriver1281167
746465Rinnosuke Morichika1248155
757881Shinki111678
767776Soga no Tojiko109591
77100Unnamed Jinyou (Fortune Teller)108396
787164Shizuha Aki107795
797272Yumemi Okazaki104894
807366Minoriko Aki98383
817675Yamame Kurodani97999
827877Yoshika Miyako95786
836570Ichirin Kumoi909114
848074Wakasagihime90856
857578Wriggle Nightbug886206
867473Medicine Melancholy872106
87Ringo85129
888382Watatsuki no Yorihime84668
898179Mima81053
908280Letty Whiterock773121
918583Luna Child63728
928895Gengetsu57561
93Seiran57115
938685Star Sapphire57153
958484Benben Tsukumo50040
959086Sunny Milk50036
978887Lily White47460
989493Kisume45855
999694Alice?s Dolls (Shanghai, Hourai, Ooedo, etc.)45221
1008788Lyrica Prismriver45044
1009191Yatsuhashi Tsukumo45030
1029292Merlin Prismriver39742
1039590Watatsuki no Toyohime39433
1049389Unnamed Book-Reading Youkai35833
105Dolls in Pseudo Paradise CD Jacket/Label Girl31628
10698104Mugetsu30821
1079796Kana Anaberal27524
1089998Yumeko24413
10910199Rei?sen21212
110Chang'e2092
111104102Sariel20114
112106101Elly19915
113103103Chiyuri Kitashirakawa19711
11410297Unzan18214
115105100Mai17810
116109107Kurumi16613
117114107Kedama1638
118107105Yuki16212
119111113Konngara15614
120113110Youki Konpaku1553
121110114Ellen15319
122108109Thermonuclear Deity Hisou Tensoku1354
123112111Kotohime13113
124118117Meira1238
125115112Rika10811
126116116Layla Prismriver1004
127120115Fairy (Maid, Sunflower, etc.)978
128121119Giant Catfish942
129118122Elis867
130122118YuugenMagan858
131132134Kappa (including yamawaro)824
132125122UFOs (red, blue, green, etc.)803
133124130Ruukoto776
134123106Hobgoblin733
135129130Tsuchinoko722
136117125Louise612
136131125Tupai611
138127121Rikako Asakura593
139147133Kikuri589
139135127Genjii584
141143120Sara555
141134128Mimi-chan555
141140143Kitsune (Youkai kitsune, Unnamed fox student, etc)553
144140136Kasen's animals (Kume, Kanda, Raijuu, Houso, Jinkenmen, etc)514
145126124Orange484
145150Unnamed Snake Youkai481
147136142Dragons (Dragon child, Unnamed evil dragon, etc)471
148130136Sake Bug461
149144134Rabbits (Moon rabbits, Eientei youkai rabbits, etc)450
150145132SinGyoku433
151132Urban legend entities (Okiku-san, Hasshaku-sama)421
152150147Crows (Hell ravens, Yukari and Aya's familiars, etc.)394
153128Manzairaku332
154150136Myouren323
155138129Unshou274
156164152Tengu (Kourindou Tengu, Great Tengu, etc)260
157138144Iwakasa240
158154144Shirou Sendai201
159164139Moon Capital Gate Guards160
160161139Ghosts (including vengeful spirits, divine spirits, bakebake)150
160158144Summoned Gods (Amaterasu, Izunome, etc.)152
162156156Bishamonten120
162158152Konohana-Sakuyahime121
164164152Tanuki (Bake-danuki, Noteppou, etc)110
165161155Kutsutsura91
165158Kosuzu Motoori's Parents90
165157156Enenra91
168161159Zashiki-warashi61
169172147Mizue no Uranoshimako40
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: PK on January 21, 2016, 03:26:55 PM
Not even being playable helped Reisen :V
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Gpop on January 21, 2016, 04:26:47 PM
>Koishi still better than Sakuya

Yup, I'm still happy with this result. BV
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Ps on January 21, 2016, 04:38:42 PM
Poll Result Fanart to Look Out For:

* Youmu in a Scarlet sandwich
* Reisen in a Yuyuko and Yukari sandwich
* Yukari and Yuuka
* Keine and Kagerou
* Maribel placing far away from Renko... but right next to Sumireko
* Lunasa ranking 27 positions higher than her sisters
* Yumemi in an Aki sandwich
* Benben Tsukumo in a sandwich with two of the Three Fairies
* Kisume still in the top 100 (#98)
* Yatsuhashi Tsukumo in a sandwich with two of the Prismrivers
* Unzan is the lowest ranked Windows game character
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Cadmas on January 21, 2016, 04:56:07 PM
I'm surprised sagume made it up so high. Out of the whole cast in that game she seems like she's the totally forgotten one. Personally I don't find her striking design wise so what got her so high on the list?
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Ps on January 21, 2016, 04:59:14 PM
I saw fanart of Sagume wearing a long flowing jacket, with her one wing, and a hand over her face, and she looked so cool and stunning that I almost voted for her based on that without knowing anything else about her
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 21, 2016, 05:24:07 PM
Poll Result Fanart to Look Out For:

* Youmu in a Scarlet sandwich
* Reisen in a Yuyuko and Yukari sandwich
* Yukari and Yuuka
* Keine and Kagerou
* Maribel placing far away from Renko... but right next to Sumireko
* Lunasa ranking 27 positions higher than her sisters
* Yumemi in an Aki sandwich
* Benben Tsukumo in a sandwich with two of the Three Fairies
* Kisume still in the top 100 (#98)
* Yatsuhashi Tsukumo in a sandwich with two of the Prismrivers
* Unzan is the lowest ranked Windows game character
Also a reverse of this (http://imgur.com/ylrxg5K).
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: CyberAngel on January 21, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
I'm more amused by Nue still standing her ground somehow, watching smugly as Shinmyoumaru, Byakuren and Kasen fall down right past her.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 21, 2016, 05:29:33 PM
What does the "firsts" in the results mean?
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: ZM on January 21, 2016, 05:36:27 PM
What does the "firsts" in the results mean?

They were first on someone's vote.

Also: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2251329?tags=touhou
Imouto sandwich.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Espadas on January 21, 2016, 05:36:32 PM
It's pretty amusing that for the nth time we have an Aki Sandwich. It's almost a running joke by now.

I'm kinda surprised by the ABYSS between Reimu and everyone else. I guess more than a few WEREN'T happy with Koishi stealing the throne.

Something unexpected: Rumia is steadily climbing the ranks! O.o  Can't think of any reason for this.....

Pretty happy with the songs. Border of Life will probably forever be my first choice, but my inner bastard is pleased that the Scarlet duo keep kicking asses.

This is mostly because i find really annoying that every year there are tons of comments bashing Septette, completely forgetting the simplest of the reasons: just because there are new songs, doesn't mean the tastes have changed. If truckloads of people voted for Septette for almost a decade no-stop, why would you expect them to change vote now?
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Ps on January 21, 2016, 05:37:41 PM
Kanako is #71
Suwako is #34

...
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Flandre5carlet on January 21, 2016, 05:41:39 PM
Character poll:
-Koishi dropping from #1; just as expected, it was yet another rush of LOLHYPE from the fandom that died out after the game release.
-No Memepiece in top 20, I'm happy.
-Predictable but not particularly disappointing top 10. I
-Kaguya #41, I am saddened.
-Flandre #5, I am happy.
-Renko ranking fairly high, I am happy.
-Same for Eiki.
-Best ranked newhu is Sagume, as should be.
-Scarlet Sandwich for Youmu.
-Miko ranking higher than Byakuren, I am pleased.
-How is the unnamed Jinyou from Forbidden Scrollery even this high?

Music poll:
-Necrofantasia #6, Evening Star #90. Such poor tastes in Yukari themes.  :X
-No Phantasm Machine ~ Phantom Factory in top 100. Sad.
-No Voyage 1970 in top 100. Sad.
-Futatsuiwa from Sado barely in the top 100. Sad.
-Predictable top 10, but I don't mind it.
-I don't mind the top 2, in fact I'm pretty happy about it, for reasons Espadas described.
-The top 100 is overall very lacking in amazing music from the CDs.
-Lunatic Eyes in top 50, okay-ish I guess.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Quwanti on January 21, 2016, 05:45:10 PM
Interesting to see that almost all of EoSD's music is slowly creeping up in the rankings for the past two polls.

-No Futatsuiwa from Sado in top 100. Sad.
It's 91th.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Flandre5carlet on January 21, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
Oh, I'm not sure how I missed it, thanks. Still a pretty disappointing result, but.. at least it's there, I guess.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Hello Purvis on January 21, 2016, 06:37:25 PM
Yall did your duty. There will be no punishments to make an example of anyone. Moral has improved, beatings discontinued.

I'm still amazed that Kisume beats any windows character. But I won't complain!
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: aListers on January 21, 2016, 06:52:34 PM
Of course, Reimu would take back her throne - the fact that, even if just for a year, she didn't hold it is what made me happy though. She can take back her place as the most popular but her streak was beaten and that's what mattered.

Personally surprised that Clownpiece wasn't very high up. Maybe we should be promoting these to the west a bit more to get 'murica fairy up. Then again, the Japanese always have more numbers than us as Reimu never wins western polls.

I feel slightly guilty helping Koishi drop to 3rd now as well. Replacing Reimu with Koishi was a lot better than it would've been if we'd replaced her with Marisa.

Also happy that the Jinyou got suprisingly high. While it's arguable if he needed to die or not, he was still not a bad guy by any means. At least we acknowledge the blood on Reimu's hands.

Sakuya, Flandre and Remilia seem to have held their ground for 3 years straight now. They've all maintained the same rank for 3 years straight. The next one down the list to do that was Nue at 38.

It seems that more people are voting again. We've  surpassed pre-Kantai collection boom levels now it seems - albiet that slump may have been the year break rather than a mass betrayal. We're only about 1000 voters off from 2012. The results were to be expected - with exception of Sagume surpassing Clownpiece and I'd say that she's the most deserving character to do so. Nothing I'm jumping around about like last year.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 21, 2016, 07:58:29 PM
No real surprises this year sadly, but that's to be expected. I read an opinion recently on how one way Japan's conservative society manifests itself is in their copycat media where everybody does the same thing over and over and consumers constantly eat it up because its something they're used to and comfortable with. That's opposed to, say, the USA where we demand innovation seemingly every-other season. We are always looking for the "next big thing" even when what we have is still perfectly legitimate in the present.

Neither is necessarily right or wrong when done right. The USA's constant push for advancement leads to innovations and constant evolution in things like technology, science, politics, and society. Japan's conservatism leads to efficiency and perfection of a single concept (like in their automotive industry) before moving on.

That really shows in the popularity poll, where the familiar greats (Reimu, Marisa, the entire SDM cast) are constantly at the top, while new characters struggle to break through until years later (as Drake's graphs illustrate), which Japan seems perfectly fine with but the WTC constantly bemoans.


Yall did your duty. There will be no punishments to make an example of anyone. Moral has improved, beatings discontinued.

I'm still amazed that Kisume beats any windows character. But I won't complain!

Not only did she beat other Windows characters, she beat 2/3 of the Prismriver sisters and a Tsukumo. It's shocking to me that a Stage 1 midboss with 0 dialogue beat 3 stage 4 bosses. Also I just realized how funny yet depressing it is as a former band nerd that the 3 lowest Windows female Touhou characters are all music-based.


Interesting* notes:
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Ryason55 on January 21, 2016, 08:54:23 PM
Oh, Mystia got 51st. Still dropping, but she's at least she's somewhat holding her ground, considering that 4 of the new characters ranked higher than her, and she only dropped 1 rank.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: SirSlarty on January 22, 2016, 01:22:08 AM
474044Keine Kamishirasawa2302256
484642Kagerou Imaizumi2269167

Poll Result Fanart to Look Out For:

* Keine and Kagerou


Yes, please.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: ZM on January 22, 2016, 01:27:41 AM
Yes, please.

Keine and Kagerou: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2251553?tags=touhou
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Jeremie on January 22, 2016, 01:37:18 AM
I literally went ahead and decided to joke around the character results. They might come off as mean-spirited but it's not serious especially since I'm making fun of even my favorite characters regardless of their ranking.  :V

https://www.facebook.com/mamizouthetanukiofsweetpotatoes/posts/1113238048717150:0 (https://www.facebook.com/mamizouthetanukiofsweetpotatoes/posts/1113238048717150:0)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: kevin1127 on January 22, 2016, 02:36:20 AM
It's sad that the most interesting thing I found about this vote is not the result but those people who doubt the voting system.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: SirSlarty on January 22, 2016, 02:49:07 AM
Keine and Kagerou: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2251553?tags=touhou

Already yoinked that one  :V
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Koog on January 22, 2016, 03:25:29 AM
Poll Result Fanart to Look Out For:

* Youmu in a Scarlet sandwich
* Reisen in a Yuyuko and Yukari sandwich
* Yukari and Yuuka
* Keine and Kagerou
* Maribel placing far away from Renko... but right next to Sumireko
* Lunasa ranking 27 positions higher than her sisters
* Yumemi in an Aki sandwich
* Benben Tsukumo in a sandwich with two of the Three Fairies
* Kisume still in the top 100 (#98)
* Yatsuhashi Tsukumo in a sandwich with two of the Prismrivers
* Unzan is the lowest ranked Windows game character

Merlin not in top 100.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: the old guy on January 22, 2016, 05:27:36 AM
Mamizou not being in the top 50?

Touhou fandom has shit taste, more at 11.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 22, 2016, 05:58:32 AM
Yall did your duty. There will be no punishments to make an example of anyone. Moral has improved, beatings discontinued.

I'm still amazed that Kisume beats any windows character. But I won't complain!
There was actually somewhat of a rally on twitter to make sure Kisume wasn't the first Windows character to get below 100.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Helepolis on January 22, 2016, 06:28:21 AM
There was actually somewhat of a rally on twitter to make sure Kisume wasn't the first Windows character to get below 100.
Yea, Chamupei had drawn this picture as support on Pixiv (image on danbooru, nsfw warning)
[nsfw]http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2242114?tags=parent%3A2251662[/nsfw]
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: N-Forza on January 22, 2016, 07:24:40 AM
Merlin not in top 100.
Maybe if she stopped spinning so much, she wouldn't get disoriented.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 22, 2016, 12:13:27 PM
Good observations:

Quote from: huppaduppa
i?m fucking crying all the comments left by the people who voted for the fortune-teller (the guy Reimu killed in FS) are joke comments, people were voting for him as a joke, that?s why he got so many votes holy shiiittt

most of them are people rewriting his lines about how he wanted to quit being human into stuff related to the poll or other things, while others are just quoting his final words where he tries to beg reimu for mercy but gets cut off, but the one that killed me was:

初めて知った東方キャラクターなので
he was the character who introduced me to touhou, so

Quote from: huppaduppa
someone left a fkn essay on why Reimu killing the fortune teller was unjust and at the end left a ton of hashtags #Don?tForgiveHakurei #HakureiResign #AbolishTheHakureiShrine

god i wish had the energy to sit and properly translate some of these but shit.

maybe another day

Quote from: huppaduppa
reading the comments for your faves is pretty nice. it makes me in a good mood, even when say, a good 30% of Kasen?s comments simply read ?boob?

Quote from: rabbiteclair
A list of characters less popular than Daiyousei: Komachi, Eirin,  Mamizou, Yuugi, Akyuu, Kanako, Tewi, Wakasagihime, Mima, all three Fairies of Light.

Quote from: rabbiteclair
it still kind of bewilders me that Kogasa is nearly as popular as Patchouli though.

where are my ten thousand Kogasa figures if she?s so popular, huh?

Quote from: rabbiteclair
How does this happen. How does one of the coolest characters, with tons of manga appearances, get stuck this low. The manipulative trickster type who actually comes off as a person instead of a walking plot device, who drives like half the stuff that happens in Forbidden Scrollery, who has one of the most memed-upon attacks in the fighters, who has a big fluffy tail. (Worth at least ten ranks right there.) Who sometimes just up and solves minor incidents that threaten to ruin her fun.

Where did we go wrong, Mamizou.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Drake on January 22, 2016, 12:20:11 PM
Yeah I have no idea how Mamizou ended up so low. Old guy is right, people have awful taste.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Raikaria on January 22, 2016, 12:27:51 PM
Raikaria vs the World:

Characters:

1: Seija - 27th
2: Yuuka - 19th
3: Seiga - 54th
4: Kogasa - 22nd
5: Shinki - 75th
6: Sanae - 12th
7: Rumia - 25th

Music:
1: Reach for the Moon; Immortal Smoke - 5th; and it's gone up!
2: Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom - Nuclear Fusion [Can't find]
3: Magical Storm - 277th [Wat]
4: Forbidden Magic - 355th
5: Staking your Life on a Prank - [Can't find; this had a really weird name]
6: Reverse Ideology - 40th
7: Old Yuanxien - 48th
8: The Grimoire of Alice - 80th
9: Strawberry Crisis!! - 118th [wat]
10: Spirit Battle - Perdition Crisis - 304th

Also Bad Apple only at 89th surprises me

Works

1: Imperishable Night [2nd]
2: Double Dealing Character
3: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
4: Mystic Square
5: Undefined Fantastic Object

The others are a lot harder to identify without being in game order :P


Now for some stats; note 'main game' discounts decimal games.

Lowest-ranked character with a game appearance and a name: SinGoyku. If we discount HRtP since it's... well.. HRtP; we get Orange.

Highest ranked character without an appearance in a main series game is Tenshi; with Kokoro right behind her, both above characters such as Yuyuko and Yukari.

Highest ranked character with 0 Firsts is... Rabbits. Somehow they beat Crows; which had 4 firsts. Somehow.

Highest ranked character without a game appearance at all is Renko, who is far above Maribel.

Highest ranked PC-98 without a post-PC-98 appearance is Shinki, who chronologically is the last PC-98 character met. If you were to count all PC-98 characters you get Reimu; obviously.

Lowest ranked character fought more than once: Rika; she is also the lowest ranked EXBoss; although she had way more Firsts than a lot of characters around her.

Lowest ranked character who has made appearances in multiple main games : Mima [NB: This discounts any ending appearances; since I've not seen every ending to every game so for all I know Unzan shows up in one]

Lowest ranked character to appear in multiple games: Unzan; who is ranked lower than a character who solely exists to be his hithox

Lowest ranked character playable in a main series game: Rikako Asakura [Also the lowest raked character with a surname and a game appearance]

Highest ranked character with 1 game appearance [Discounting backgrounds in fighting games]: Flandre [Ironically she would still win even if the fighting game backgrounds counted]. Flandre is also the highest ranked character who has never been playable.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Helepolis on January 22, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Regarding the Fortune Teller
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There is also discussion going on at Danbooru (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2251552) about this.

Regarding "where are my thousands of kogasa figures" >> Pretty sure

Kasen's boobs > Can't say I can't disagree with those reasons.

About Mamizou > Is it perhaps possible that people "dislike her" because she isn't from mainland Japan story wise? Even though she is a Tanuki. Makes me wonder.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: hungrybookworm on January 22, 2016, 02:02:06 PM
I don't think it's that people 'dislike' Mamizou, it's just that they might not like her as much as other characters. (We could ask the same thing about anyone else who isn't in the top 50.) I love Mamzo to bits and enjoy seeing her kick ass in FS, but if I have to choose only 7 characters then sacrifices must be made.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: ZM on January 22, 2016, 04:17:57 PM
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2251549?tags=touhou

(I hope to see those 8-bit sprites soon.)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 22, 2016, 04:47:21 PM
Quote
Lowest ranked character to appear in multiple games: Unzan; who is ranked lower than a character who solely exists to be his hithox
This joke is no longer funny to me anymore.  In fact, it never was.

Quote
Highest ranked character with 1 game appearance [Discounting backgrounds in fighting games]: Flandre [Ironically she would still win even if the fighting game backgrounds counted]. Flandre is also the highest ranked character who has never been playable.
She doesn't appear in any of the fighting game backgrounds.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 22, 2016, 04:56:27 PM
She doesn't appear in any of the fighting game backgrounds.
Which still validates his point.

As for Mamizou, maybe it's just she didn't leave as much of an impact on people as we think. I don't see any particular reason of why she would be higher though, every character has a chance.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: PK on January 22, 2016, 05:02:27 PM
Flandre was also in StB, though.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Raikaria on January 22, 2016, 05:02:46 PM
This joke is no longer funny to me anymore.  In fact, it never was.

Except it's not a joke. ZUN himself said that. If the character designer said that is the case; it's not a joke. It's truth. Ichrin may have developed beyond merely being Unzan's hitbox in the fighting games [And even then she pretty much is that; very few of her attacks are actually HER] but in UFO she was designed as such and that was her purpose.

Also dang I forgot Shoot the Bullet. That makes Flandre 'The highest rated character who appears in 1 main series game'. Although to be fair once you count the photography games and Impossible Spell Card every single character who isn't PC-98 or from LLK has at least 2 game appearances.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Suspicious person on January 22, 2016, 06:12:41 PM
I don't see any particular reason of why she would be higher though, every character has a chance.
Well, if you consider her relevance in most of the works she appears in, her status as an EX - Boss, her fleshed out personality, and even her giant wardrobe and some more, you gotta admit that Mamizou has a lot going on for her, yet she still scored a "relatively" crappy rank in the poll. Heck, she's barely above Koakuma... and Koakuma have more first votes than her ! Everyone gets a chance, but her ranking just don't do justice to her.

Canon wise, Mamizou is pretty well rounded, the problem is in the fanon : there aren't a lot of video or fanworks that put her in the spotlight. Fanon is the fuel that allows the likes of Daiyousei and Koakuma and forgettable characters to thrive, and Mamizou is a bit low on that imo. It might just be me looking at the wrong places, but I've really never heard about a Mamizou related video / fanwork so good that a lot of people would tell people about.



Putting the Mamizou aside, it's nice to see that the rookies this time managed to get a decent position in the ranking  :3
Now, to see if they can withstand the test of time...
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Espadas on January 22, 2016, 06:53:25 PM
I think a part of the "blame" for Mamizou's standing is that you simply cannot vote for everyone. Even if she is well-liked by many they still need to decide which to votes and which to sacrifice and "liked" is not the same as "loved".
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Ps on January 22, 2016, 08:36:04 PM
Mamizou is really cool in Forbidden Scrollery, but in fanon she's just a tail.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: cerulean_blues on January 22, 2016, 09:26:04 PM

Highest ranked PC-98 without a post-PC-98 appearance is Shinki, who chronologically is the last PC-98 character met. If you were to count all PC-98 characters you get Reimu; obviously.

Interesting that Shinki has overtaken and now pulled away from Mima as most popular PC-98 character.

Also quite funny that she has gained several places in the last 2 polls, despite having been retired for almost 17 years.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Raikaria on January 22, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
Interesting that Shinki has overtaken and now pulled away from Mima as most popular PC-98 character.

Also quite funny that she has gained several places in the last 2 polls, despite having been retired for almost 17 years.

Shinki's popularity is probobly tied to that of Alice; who rose from 10th to 9th. You know; the whole thing with Shinki being Alice's creator/mother.

Although technically Shinki hasn't been 100% retired; ZUN did see fit to make a theme for her for a fangame. [So Shinki has two official themes despite only appearing once in a single official game]
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Plubio on January 23, 2016, 12:43:44 AM
I love Mamizou and I voted for her and it sucks she's so low.
But as everyone has been saying, sometimes you have to sacrifice a vote but... I don't know, poor tanuki.

Anyway I'm still happy ZUN really enjoys using her, she's a total badass on Forbidden Scrollery, hope she keeps up.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: SirSlarty on January 23, 2016, 03:28:50 AM
Let's see what happens if people only get ONE vote.
For the character poll and using the "firsts" votes as "this is my favorite character", assuming that's what people will vote for with their one vote, the rankings change.
The top five switch around, interestingly.

Blue = same rank  | Green = rise in rank  | Red = drop in rank  | last number is amount of offset

1. Reimu 0
2. Koishi +1
3. Youmu  +3
4. Marisa -2
5. Sakuya -1
6. Flandre -1
7. Alice +2
8. Remilia -1
9. Aya +1
10. Satori -2

11. Mokou 0
12. Sanae 0
13. Yuyuko +3
14. Tenshi -1
15. Meiling +9
16. Yuuka +3
17. Momiji +4
18. Yukari 0
19. Rumia +6
20. Patchouli 0

21. Reisen -4
22. Kogasa 0
23. Parsee +7
24. Cirno +11
25. Shiki Eiki +1
26. Ran +9
27. Seija 0
28. Okuu +1
29. Kokoro -14
30. Nitori +3

31. Suwako +3
32. Kaguya +9
33. Renko -5
34. Miko +3
35. Sagume -21
36. Hina +13
37. Nue +1
38. Futo -6
39. Byakuren +1
40. Suika +2

41. Mystia +10
42. Nazrin +3
43. Kasen -4
44. Keine +3
45. Iku -1
46. Chen +9
47. Junko -16
48. Clownpiece -25
49. Orin +1
50. Wriggle +35  <- this is the largest positive offset!


And since there's lots of talk of Mamizou, her "Firsts" rank DROPS 14 places to 75th.

Here's (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15iPwFtNzXsDWjTdIAPTcl_PrAd0b0i_H2RKp3fpaMmo/edit?usp=sharing) the GSheet if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: UTW on January 23, 2016, 03:38:29 AM
It's sad that the most interesting thing I found about this vote is not the result but those people who doubt the voting system.

Joke entries aside, I don't doubt its legitimacy. But I've always thought 2nd or even 3rd place votes should be weighted like 1st place is. Especially with more slots for characters and music now. Say, five points for 1st, three for 2nd, two for 3rd, and one for the rest.

Quote
Mamizou

First impressions are important. I think that with exception, it can be hard to come back if you don't make a good first impact. I remember the reactions, not many liked her at first. She had the double distinction of debuting in a game that wasn't well-received, of which she was thought to be a reason. Her design was seen as not being very appealing, to say the least (ugly was the usual word). It was thought Futatsuiwa from Sado was the best thing about her.

She also suffered from unfair expectation. Unreasonable as it was at the time, fans had concocted expectations of the game and the EX slot and were disappointed. With Mima fever taking hold at the time, it was thought she would show up (I know, it's silly). Or they thought Kasen would make her game debut (it made a little more sense given what we saw of her at the time with the assumption being that she would also be investigating the spirits; ZUN almost thought so, too, but thought it was inappropriate to debut her at that time).

Let's face it, she only started being really cool in Forbidden Scrollery. Hell, she's like an entirely new character. So, it basically took a rewrite, a new design, etc. to get her to where she is. Regardless, I don't think fans have wavered much. The damage is done. Look at how little attention she receives on Pixiv despite having a major role in FS, for example. Now, while I think fans "like" her, like others have said, it's just not enough to move into enough people's favorite characters slot.

Unfortunately, I just don't think many fans care that much when a character gets "better". Ichirin, a favorite of mine from the start, got an origin story in SoPm and was really fun in HM and ULiL, gaining a personality there, but that hasn't helped, either. By the time it happens it's too little, too late. Fans will have moved on by then. Bottom line, it can be hard to shake that first impression.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 23, 2016, 04:28:41 AM
Quote
Except it's not a joke. ZUN himself said that. If the character designer said that is the case; it's not a joke. It's truth. Ichrin may have developed beyond merely being Unzan's hitbox in the fighting games [And even then she pretty much is that; very few of her attacks are actually HER] but in UFO she was designed as such and that was her purpose.
Who says character designers can't decide to say something funny or something wrong (not saying he's wrong, since there can't be anything wrong about this)?  If he says something like Kisume's inspiration and character design is actually based off how he envisions himself as a female, decapitating people and all, are you really going to take that seriously?  He can say the same thing for Alice, about her being the hitbox for her dolls.  Miyamoto once said he is Bowser Jr.'s mother and no "just kidding" afterwards.  Yeah (https://youtu.be/uu2DnTd3dEo?t=42s)...  Sure, he more than likely means he designed him and not literally gave birth to him, but I'm sure the interviewers wanted to know Bowser Jr.'s literal mother when they asked that.

ZUN's intention was perhaps "I wanted to create a male character for once, but since it's strange for one to be directly attacking male opponents in a female-heavy series (Shingyoku doesn't exist, lol), I've decided to accompany him with a female character who you must hit."

Show me what he said, and we'll talk.

But even so, change in ideas are clearly made during the development process.  If Unzan is supposed to be the actual character, then why doesn't he have any dialogues, character development, and adequate amounts of screentime?  Instead, we had Ichirin do all the talking and stealing all the fame.  Before creation, one could say that Unzan was supposed to be the actual character, but that clearly is no longer the case by the time the game came out.  For a series that focuses on females, ZUN should know better than to create a character duo where the male is more important than the female.

To be fair, it can go either ways depending on the point of view.  From ZUN's POV, he created Ichirin with the intention of her being Unzan's hitbox, but you cannot deny that he also made her her own character.  In the actual story, she's not, like, a projection of Unzan or some kind of growth attached to him.   Everything she does and say are all her own.  Unzan is not her true identity nor is he using her to express himself, so as far as the series's lore goes, Ichirin is completely her own entity.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Flandre5carlet on January 23, 2016, 11:41:19 AM
Canon wise, Mamizou is pretty well rounded, the problem is in the fanon : there aren't a lot of video or fanworks that put her in the spotlight. Fanon is the fuel that allows the likes of Daiyousei and Koakuma and forgettable characters to thrive, and Mamizou is a bit low on that imo. It might just be me looking at the wrong places, but I've really never heard about a Mamizou related video / fanwork so good that a lot of people would tell people about.
The thing is, personally I think one of the reasons why fanon works don't focus on Mamizou is exactly because she is already well-rounded in canon, in fact one of the most well-rounded characters in that regard. So there is no "need" to "flesh out" her character through fanon works and the like.
In turn, since many fans don't really give much of a damn about canon and only care about fanon... Yeah, you end up with Daiyousei ranking 58 and Mamizou ranking below her.

Her design was seen as not being very appealing, to say the least (ugly was the usual word).
How does one find Mamizou's design ugly but Hecatia's design appealing-
That said, your post makes a lot of sense, but it's still very saddening. She genuinely is one of the most developed characters in the franchise now. Besides, she wasn't exactly rewritten or anything through the print works, she was simply fleshed out. A luxury that a lot of characters who ranked better than her simply don't have. I do think that people unironically hoping for Mima and being disappointed is part of the reason for her lack of popularity, as well.

Now I wish I had her in my votes instead of another character, even though it wouldn't have changed much...
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: CyberAngel on January 23, 2016, 12:05:08 PM
I'm surprised "you can't vote for everyone" is voiced as a reason at all. If you people somehow missed it, they've INCREASED the number of characters you can vote for. Not being popular in fanon doesn't cut it either - that was true in the past as well, but that didn't stop her from actually gaining popularity over time. However, while everyone's score increased 1.5 - 2 times this time, Mamizou's gain is very small. And she has less 1st place votes than she EVER did before. Through and through, she's losing popularity. Is she less active in the recent manga chapters? Did people get fed up with her being Ko-chan's mentor? Or did they dislike her urban legend in ULiL? Those are the only reasons I can think of.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Branneg Xy on January 23, 2016, 11:40:37 PM
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Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Espadas on January 24, 2016, 02:21:26 AM
I'm surprised "you can't vote for everyone" is voiced as a reason at all. If you people somehow missed it, they've INCREASED the number of characters you can vote for.

Doesn't matter how many votes you have, you WILL have to cut someone out. Sure, more votes means more chances to be voted but it's still a matter of how much you like her.

Take me for example.
I like Mamizou but i never vote for her, because i put Sanae, Yuuka, Yuyuko, Yukari, Rinnosuke and the Aki sisters above her.
Next year we actually get 10 votes? STILL NOT VOTING FOR HER, cause i would then add Flandre, Utsuho and Youmu.....
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Electric Tengu on January 24, 2016, 03:35:03 AM
Mfw I voted for Sky Ruin (#241) and Magical Storm (#277) ...

Sky Ruin's placement always amazes me, I think it would do so much better if it were from a popular game.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: CyberAngel on January 24, 2016, 07:48:10 AM
Doesn't matter how many votes you have, you WILL have to cut someone out. Sure, more votes means more chances to be voted but it's still a matter of how much you like her.

Ahem.

that was true in the past as well, but that didn't stop her from actually gaining popularity over time.
And she has less 1st place votes than she EVER did before.

Could you please read the whole posts instead of just the first two sentences from now on? It's kinda hard to have an actual discussion otherwise.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Espadas on January 24, 2016, 09:25:52 AM
My post wasn't intended as a counter to what you said. I didn't quote the latter part of your post because you made valid points.
I was explaining why I personally believe "you can't vote for everyone" is a factor in her mediocre standing.

The fact that this time she actually lost popularity and 1st place votes is probably a combinations of many things.
This obviously is a shot in the dark, but maybe a part of the people who put her first in the past found the newest characters (like Kishin or Clownpiece) very appealing and "demoted" her to second, third etc place, making her lose points despite being voted by roughly the same amount of people.

Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Raikaria on January 24, 2016, 11:54:10 AM
Who says character designers can't decide to say something funny or something wrong (not saying he's wrong, since there can't be anything wrong about this)?  If he says something like Kisume's inspiration and character design is actually based off how he envisions himself as a female, decapitating people and all, are you really going to take that seriously?  He can say the same thing for Alice, about her being the hitbox for her dolls.  Miyamoto once said he is Bowser Jr.'s mother and no "just kidding" afterwards.  Yeah (https://youtu.be/uu2DnTd3dEo?t=42s)...  Sure, he more than likely means he designed him and not literally gave birth to him, but I'm sure the interviewers wanted to know Bowser Jr.'s literal mother when they asked that.

ZUN's intention was perhaps "I wanted to create a male character for once, but since it's strange for one to be directly attacking male opponents in a female-heavy series (Shingyoku doesn't exist, lol), I've decided to accompany him with a female character who you must hit."

Show me what he said, and we'll talk.

But even so, change in ideas are clearly made during the development process.  If Unzan is supposed to be the actual character, then why doesn't he have any dialogues, character development, and adequate amounts of screentime?  Instead, we had Ichirin do all the talking and stealing all the fame.  Before creation, one could say that Unzan was supposed to be the actual character, but that clearly is no longer the case by the time the game came out.  For a series that focuses on females, ZUN should know better than to create a character duo where the male is more important than the female.

To be fair, it can go either ways depending on the point of view.  From ZUN's POV, he created Ichirin with the intention of her being Unzan's hitbox, but you cannot deny that he also made her her own character.  In the actual story, she's not, like, a projection of Unzan or some kind of growth attached to him.   Everything she does and say are all her own.  Unzan is not her true identity nor is he using her to express himself, so as far as the series's lore goes, Ichirin is completely her own entity.

Except she hardly had a personality at all in UFO. Her personality was basically 'Why are you following the ship' and loyalty enough to Byakuren to join Shou and Murasa. Her 'personality' on the wiki is one sentence. Unzan has three. And he doesn't even speak.

I've not played 13.5/14.5 so I cannot speak for her being fleshed out there, but in UFO, she was hardly even a character.

Combine this complete lack of characterization with her in-game purpose [In both UFO and 13.5/14.5; where the attacks performed by her proper are minimal] and the fact ZUN said as much; and you can see why it's hardly a joke to say 'Ichirin is Unzan's hitbox'. A joke is something like Sakuya and Pads; or Yuyuko eating everything [Instead of just being somewhat gluttonous like IN suggests].

I cannot find the actual quote from ZUN himself; but it's mentioned several times on the wiki that ZUN said this is the case. Admittedly the wiki is not 100% reliable; but it also quotes SoPM:
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'Essentially, Unzan is the Stage 3 boss of Undefined Fantastic Object, not Ichirin; Ichirin herself came as a way to have an actual character on the screen for an hit box according to ZUN. When trying to think of what type of youkai to call Ichirin in Part 3 of Symposium of Post-mysticism, even Byakuren, who calls herself an expert on youkai, could only hesitantly refer to her as "um... a controller of a giant nyuudou."

Her character is so flat she doesn't even have a species. Even Byakuren basically calls her Unzan's Hitbox in canon. Made even more supported by another SoPM quote:
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You stand no chance of defeating Ichirin while Unzan is protecting her, and it is impossible to harm Unzan in the first place.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Spotty Len on January 24, 2016, 02:38:16 PM
Yay, I was waiting for this.

(http://i.imgur.com/IZqH5N6.png) (http://i.imgur.com/IZqH5N6.png)
https://twitter.com/kirai_s/status/691194998209925121
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 25, 2016, 07:30:13 AM
Except she hardly had a personality at all in UFO. Her personality was basically 'Why are you following the ship' and loyalty enough to Byakuren to join Shou and Murasa. Her 'personality' on the wiki is one sentence. Unzan has three. And he doesn't even speak.

I've not played 13.5/14.5 so I cannot speak for her being fleshed out there, but in UFO, she was hardly even a character.

Combine this complete lack of characterization with her in-game purpose [In both UFO and 13.5/14.5; where the attacks performed by her proper are minimal] and the fact ZUN said as much; and you can see why it's hardly a joke to say 'Ichirin is Unzan's hitbox'. A joke is something like Sakuya and Pads; or Yuyuko eating everything [Instead of just being somewhat gluttonous like IN suggests].

I cannot find the actual quote from ZUN himself; but it's mentioned several times on the wiki that ZUN said this is the case. Admittedly the wiki is not 100% reliable; but it also quotes SoPM:
Her character is so flat she doesn't even have a species. Even Byakuren basically calls her Unzan's Hitbox in canon. Made even more supported by another SoPM quote:
Unzan not speaking at all hurts his characterization a bit when compared to someone who actually speaks.

The fighting games do offer more insight into Ichirin's personality, such as having something of a temper issue, what with her rage mechanic.  Again, Unzan has no speaking roles in those games and does nothing more than acting as her silent servant.

Her having a higher ranking than Unzan in the poll makes a lot of sense if you actually know something about her.  To say that she has completely zero characterization shows how little you know about her.  You can't always rely on the Wiki.  Playing the games she appears in will give you more insight about her than a  couple of passages on a page that can be edited by anyone.

She is the mastermind of the duo, the brain of the operations, while Unzan is nothing more than a silent and obedient servant who does everything she says and will not act on his own.  As said before, Unzan being silent hurts his characterization a bit, even if he has some personality.  In the fighting games, you are controlling Ichirin, not Unzan, and she has her own attacks.  When characters talk to the duo, it is her that is being focused on and exchanging dialogues.  You can actually get quite a lot from a character if you pay attention to what s/he is saying.

At this point, it's absurd to say that Ichirin is less important and insignificant when compared to Unzan.  Even if she does not have a whole lot of characterization, her having several expressions and saying lots of stuff in her appearances make her stand out more than Unzan, who pretty much lacks any form of expression other than looking angry.

She rightfully earns her spot on the poll.  Even if she is referred to as a hitbox by her creator, she still has her own character and backstory you cannot ignore completely.  She has ascended from a hitbox into an actual character.

And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't have a whole lot of interest in her.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Helepolis on January 25, 2016, 11:41:51 AM
I am not going to quote people because otherwise it is just huge quote blocks. But jumping in on the "why is character x more popular than y".

Being part of a household has a huge impact on fan-work or love from fans. As mentioned, Ichirin is a loyal member of the Myoren crew. Canonwise they are all tied to Byakuren thus they form for fans a household. Go find fan-work in household forms and you'll notice how she often gets along with Minamitsu. However, this still means nothing.

Consider the following:
Flandre is EX and canonical member of the Scarlet household (duh, little sister of the scarlet family)
Suwako is EX and canonical member of Moriya Shrine household (duh)
Koishi is EX and canonical member of the Chireiden household. (this is getting repeatitive)
Nue is EX and household paired with Myouren ? ? ?

... There is no relationship for Nue with Myouren aside that Byakuren accepted her presence as Youkai. Yet, due to this she is paired with the household in many fan work.

Mamizou is EX. A friend of Nue and that is about it. If we strip FS and purely look it at it on its own: Mamizou is nothing but just a tail like Ps mentioned.

Not saying this is the reason for her low popularity, but could be one of the reasons.

Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: snowflake247 on January 25, 2016, 05:56:58 PM
Yay, I was waiting for this.

(http://i.imgur.com/IZqH5N6.png) (http://i.imgur.com/IZqH5N6.png)
https://twitter.com/kirai_s/status/691194998209925121

I like the retro sprite art style of this image.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Plubio on January 25, 2016, 09:44:16 PM
Mamizou is EX. A friend of Nue and that is about it. If we strip FS and purely look it at it on its own: Mamizou is nothing but just a tail like Ps mentioned.

Not saying this is the reason for her low popularity, but could be one of the reasons.

Yeah, the problem is that, aside from being Nue's friend, Mamizou's is a nobody in Gensokyo. She seems to being having a great time on the human village tho.
Yet she has some reputation on the outside world, or at least she used to ? after all, she's supposed to be Danzaburou danuki. Even Nue calls her "tanuki leader" in Forbidden Scrollery.
But I think you pretty much explained it: Mamizou is not that popular because she can't be paired with popular characters.

It's a shame, that just show the huge shit taste of this fandom.
Jokes aside is still a shame.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Gpop on January 25, 2016, 10:44:30 PM
It's a shame, that just show the huge shit taste of this fandom.
Jokes aside is still a shame.
The biggest problem is that the potential characters she does have to pair with, they are usually better paired with other characters that's more popular. (ie. Mamizou/Kokoro is overseen by Kokoro/Byakuren/Miko or Kokoro/Koishi, Mamizou/Kosuzu is overseen by Aki/Kosuzu, Mamizou/Nue is overseen by Nue/Myouren temple or previously Nue/Koishi/Flandre).
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 26, 2016, 04:23:04 AM
Or maybe Mamzoop just has an unappealing design. >_>
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Jeremie on January 26, 2016, 08:13:22 AM
It's probably a combination of things that doesn't cause her to be popular among certain parts of the fanbase.  The series has so much appeal in many ways so it's going to split things right off the bat. I like to joke about older character being at an instant disadvantage since they're not considered as cute but that could be possible. I also don't remember her having any huge meme. I haven't been following videos as much as I used to when I was new to the series but it's also possible she doesn't show into a very popular video or something that gives her a lot of mass appeal. The more appeal a character has to a mass audience, the more they'll get popular. EOSD regardless of it's age still gets a lot of content and it's also combined with nostalgia so it will continue to keep it's appeal to a lot of those fans in the first place.

That and I'm pretty sure it's been brought up but there's quite a limited amount of fans who reads print works or side materials (Although Renko seems quite popular for a reason that escapes me except for some of her lines being amusing) and just have their preferences dictated by how cute a character is. 
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kirin no Sora on January 26, 2016, 07:21:01 PM
*looks at the stuff that has appeared since my post*

Whoops... I guess that Twitter post isn't the same as the actual results... My bad.  :blush:
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: game2011 on January 27, 2016, 05:22:49 AM
*looks at the stuff that has appeared since my post*

Whoops... I guess that Twitter post isn't the same as the actual results... My bad.  :blush:
It's similar to some extent, though.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Clarste on January 27, 2016, 11:10:54 AM
Or maybe Mamzoop just has an unappealing design. >_>

I believe you'll find that Mamizou looks really cool and badass in her human disguise clothes. I could take or leave her original/fighting game designs though.
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Kilgamayan on January 27, 2016, 01:54:11 PM
I actually liked her the most (or disliked her the least, perhaps) in HM. Her TD design is drab at best and the book designs don't do anything for me at all.

Mamzoop just has a really punchable face for some reason. I can't think of a better way to describe it. (I don't even want to punch her in the face. It's just that her face is very punchable.)
Title: Re: 12th Touhou Series Popularity Contest!
Post by: Nyxnyx on February 23, 2016, 12:51:10 PM
http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohomemory/archives/46877063.html

Some more statistic for the poll, from what I've heard this is the record of when a character is picked, who would be pick along with said character.

For example, 80% of those who picked Maribel would pick Renko as well.