~Hakurei Shrine~ => Help Me, Eirin! => Topic started by: nintendonut888 on December 03, 2011, 11:31:53 PM
Title: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on December 03, 2011, 11:31:53 PM
Round 2 of round 2 of the maybe sometimes daily Touhou thread! >w< Current question:
What is your favorite stage 6 boss theme?
I suppose I have no choice but to answer now, huh? ;^_^ In that case, I think I choose Cosmic Mind. A lot of people dislike this song for some reason, but I think it fits the tone of the fight perfectly. Honorable mention goes to Septette for the Dead Princess. Even after listening to it literally hundreds of times, I still like it, but I admit I got a bit sick of the in-game version. I still love the melody and many remixes of it however.
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Post by: Naut on December 03, 2011, 11:37:27 PM
I choose Cosmic Mind. A lot of people dislike this song for some reason,
Who the hell? They clearly have horrible opinions. ::)
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Post by: Skyler on December 03, 2011, 11:47:28 PM
Suwa Foughten Field gets my vote. Septette is pretty close behind.
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Post by: Elysia on December 04, 2011, 01:20:48 AM
Border of Life. Possibly the best Touhou song period. (I'm torn between that, Lullaby of a Deserted Hell, and Necrofantasia.)
With an honorable mention to Nuclear Fusion.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 04, 2011, 02:31:10 AM
What is your favorite handheld accessory?
Along with their hats/hair ribbons, many Touhou girls are commonly depicted holding something. Examples include Nazrin's dowsing rods, Shikieiki's yama-stick (totally the real name), and Shou's pagoda. Which of these is your favorite? Favorite weapons can be reused if the character is holding them in their in-game portraits (an example of one not to count is Marisa's hakkero, which is never seen to be held in any portrait).
I still adore Elly's scythe, but to make it more interesting I'll think of a non-weapon. Well, it's kind of a weapon, but Yuka's parasol is 100% awesome. A never-wilting flower that can block danmaku? Heck yeah! :flowerpower:
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 04, 2011, 02:56:19 AM
Chiyuri's chair.
:yukkuri:
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Post by: Starxsword on December 04, 2011, 02:59:02 AM
Tenshi's Sword of Hisou.
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Post by: Zil on December 04, 2011, 03:21:24 AM
Rika's piece of chalk While Aya's notebook is probobly the most funny, I think the coolest is Nue's trident. There might be something really cool in HRtP, but I'm too lazy to check.
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Post by: I have no name on December 04, 2011, 03:29:37 AM
I think I remember some sort of mountable light for the Gameboy. :V Aya's Camera count? A device that can create incriminating and/or awesome photos as well as clear out bullets is sure to win my vote.
I imagine she's holding it somehow, so Suwako's human.
What the hell's that mean? ???
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 04, 2011, 04:12:40 PM
Excepting obvious things like weaponry(Y'know, a certain ghostly gardener has two rather nice swords...), probably Shikieiki's Rod of Remorse/Convincement Rod/whatever her stick is.
So yeah, Hakurouken and Roukanken win if I couunt weapons, by a landslide. If not, the Yama's Stick of Doom.
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Post by: GuppyForce on December 04, 2011, 04:17:06 PM
NUCLEAR CANNON
Wait, that's counted as a handheld accessory, right? Well, technically it's more built in than hand held...
Eirin's bow or Yuyuko's fan if not
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on December 04, 2011, 05:19:14 PM
Kisume's bucket
I have to give this one too... generic sunflower fairies' sunflowers. They're just too damn cute holding those things. Seriously, how can you not love them?
As far as named characters go, I've always like the Pagoda.
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Post by: Garlyle on December 04, 2011, 07:18:32 PM
I second Byakuren's, uh, whatever the fuck it is. The Air Scrolls
5: Skyrim
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Post by: ExPorygon on December 04, 2011, 07:51:48 PM
I was wondering that myself. I think he is refering to the hat as Suwako. So "Suwako's human" is the human the hat is holding. It sounds like he's saying "Suwako is human" though.
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Post by: K.B. on December 05, 2011, 06:02:14 AM
A bucket and a megaphone.
Though Kyoukers herself is the megaphone and Kisume may or may not actually be "holding" the bucket, but for the sake of the reference I'm sticking with this.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 05, 2011, 09:35:35 AM
I was wondering that myself. I think he is refering to the hat as Suwako. So "Suwako's human" is the human the hat is holding. It sounds like he's saying "Suwako is human" though.
So what Naut meant to say was that his favorite handheld accessory is the loli carried around by Suwako the Hat... But this hat doesn't have hands.
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Post by: J.O.B on December 05, 2011, 09:46:24 AM
So what Naut meant to say was that his favorite handheld accessory is the loli carried around by Suwako the Hat... But this hat doesn't have hands.
But it has a mouth :V
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Post by: Zengeku on December 05, 2011, 11:06:16 AM
Its not like Suwako the Hat carries Suwako the Loli in its mouth. ;) Besides, the question was about handheld accessories. Not mouthheld ones.
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Post by: J.O.B on December 05, 2011, 11:19:18 AM
Suwako, is a loli. Pyonta-kun, is her hat. Suwako and Pyonta-kun are best friends. They play together, and are always seen together. But Suwako and Pyonta-kun can't ever be apart. If one loses the other, they both get sad. So they go hand in hand. And always stay together.
This proves that they are both handheld accessories :V
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Post by: Zengeku on December 05, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
Kay'. You win. :D
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Post by: J.O.B on December 05, 2011, 11:35:31 AM
:toot: When it comes to Suwako. I will prevail.
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Post by: ふねん1 on December 05, 2011, 02:32:46 PM
I have a feeling Naut's comment was made in a similar fashion to how I labeled Kogasa as the umbrella itself and not the girl holding it. Even though Suwako is not a tsukumogami like Kogasa, plus there's nothing hand-held anywhere around Suwako (sorry J.O.B :V).
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Post by: Zengeku on December 05, 2011, 02:43:20 PM
I just offered him the victory. That overrules anything else. :V
There is probably a bunch of hands inside the hat that holds the girl. Likely causing her serious pain but that's how it goes.
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Post by: Naut on December 05, 2011, 04:54:33 PM
I am so, so sorry I made that really lame overdone joke.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
I am so, so sorry I made that really lame overdone joke.
No worries. I can totally follow you.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 06, 2011, 03:24:59 AM
What is your favorite Magical Astronomy song?
The last full music CD is sometimes considered the best of the lot. Which is your favorite?
Like before, if you haven't experienced the music CDs, you can follow along. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU2y5FZiDRM&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL5DAC93563135178D)
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Post by: J.O.B on December 06, 2011, 04:58:56 AM
Greenwich in the Sky. Fuck yes.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 06, 2011, 05:05:41 AM
So hard to decide between Sleepless Night of the Eastern Country or Celestial Wizardry.
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Post by: Formless God on December 06, 2011, 05:09:12 AM
G Free
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 06, 2011, 06:03:13 PM
Greenwich in the Sky. I heard a jazz version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Olx-oU1M8) years ago and loved it, then listened to the original version and found that it, too, was excellent. :3c
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Post by: Skyler on December 06, 2011, 06:14:21 PM
The Far Side of the Moon.
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Post by: VIZINGORD on December 07, 2011, 01:44:09 AM
Future Universe of Wheelchair and Celestial Wizardry ~ Magical Astronomy
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Post by: Garlyle on December 07, 2011, 02:27:04 AM
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Post by: pineyappled on December 07, 2011, 05:26:09 AM
Sleepless Night and tie between G Free and Moon Tour.
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Post by: ExPorygon on December 07, 2011, 08:40:43 AM
I'm not quite sure about this one, but I'll go with G Free
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Post by: Piranha on December 07, 2011, 09:37:52 AM
Greenwich in the Sky.
There's just something about this song which make it impossible for the other songs to even come close.(with the exception of Far Side of the Moon)
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Post by: Starxsword on December 07, 2011, 11:31:39 AM
Probably Sleepless Night of the Eastern Country or maybe Demystify Feast.
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Post by: redub on December 07, 2011, 03:45:49 PM
Greenwich in the Sky. Mostly because of Demetori's remix. <3
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Post by: BT on December 07, 2011, 04:30:36 PM
Close between a handful of them (Greenwich in the Sky isn't anywhere near being one of them, by the way. Am I broken in some way that it literally makes me puke?), but I'd pick Sleepless Night in the long run.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 08, 2011, 03:16:59 AM
Well, there's a lot of good ones in the bunch, but I think I will go with Welcome To The Moon Tour. It's a bit generic, yes, but generic ZUN is excellent ZUN. It has a kind of forward marching energy that more of his songs should have. Honorable mention to Far Side of the Moon.
What is your favorite Touhou fangame?
Among the many media Touhou has covered, it has also spawned many high quality fangames. CHOOSE.
I haven't played very many, but I have fond memories of Labyrinth of Touhou. Not the kind that would make me ever touch it again with a ten foot pole, but it left quite an impression on me after I finished it. Plus, the music. Borrowed music, yes, but... *_*
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Post by: VIZINGORD on December 08, 2011, 03:48:18 AM
Same here. Labyrinth of Touhou.
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Post by: Zil on December 08, 2011, 04:00:02 AM
Labyrinth of Touhou here as well. It was just a great RPG. Much better than most of the RPGs produced these days. PatchCon is amusing as well, and doesn't recquire much of a time investment. My computer refused to let me listen to Magical Astronomy, but I'll get my answer for that round in later. I heard the first 30 seconds of Greenwich in the Sky, and that sounded pretty hard to beat.
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Post by: Starxsword on December 08, 2011, 04:13:12 AM
Fantasy Maiden Wars E.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 08, 2011, 04:31:00 AM
Among the many media Touhou has covered, it has also spawned many high quality fangames. CHOOSE.
I caaaaaaaaaaaaan't :ohdear:
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Post by: ふねん1 on December 08, 2011, 04:48:56 AM
Phantasm Romance.
Haven't played many Touhou fangames in general, and the first ones I'd be willing to try are other shooters.
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on December 08, 2011, 05:58:12 AM
MegaMari. I squee'd like a little girl the first time I got up to the castle stages and saw the quickman death lasers, and buster dueling Yukari is one of the most awesome things I've ever done in a video game. The nostalgia card doesn't work on me very often, but when it does, holy cow does it work.
Mystical chain gets honorable mention, especially with the way the extra stage
tweaks off of EX-Alice's original spells.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 08, 2011, 06:30:10 AM
Touhouvania, Touhoumon, and Labyrinth of Touhou are so good. You can't make me choose.
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Post by: Nyarly on December 08, 2011, 06:40:45 AM
Quite hard to choose. But I would say Labyrinth of Touhou and New Super Marisa Land.
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Post by: fsvgm777 on December 08, 2011, 07:05:33 AM
Favourite Touhou fangame...
Touhouvania.
New Super Marisa Land and Fantasy Maiden Wars E are good as well... but Touhouvania holds a special place in my heart.
..is it me, or does it feel weird to refer to Koumajou Densetsu as its Western fan name (Touhouvania)?
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Post by: pineyappled on December 08, 2011, 07:11:16 AM
New Super Marisa Land. Some levels were pure bullshit, though.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 08, 2011, 07:52:58 AM
I guess I can only vote Megamari X6. Its the only one I've tried and actually played for real.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 08, 2011, 06:18:03 PM
All right. I've finally made up my mind. I do love Touhou Soujiki for being so unique (as far as I know there are no other Touhou fangames that have the protagonist sweeping her way through Gensokyo with a literal broom), but ultimately it just doesn't have the sheer amount of content Touhou Rekkaden does. Even though it's been a while, I still really like that game, so I pick that.
Even if my favourite character to play as is Remilia. :ohdear:
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Post by: Puffy on December 08, 2011, 07:39:52 PM
my favourite would be CtC and Touhouvania I + II, though need to try others (if only i knew how to use danmakufu ect -.-)
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Post by: J.O.B on December 08, 2011, 11:46:14 PM
Labyrinth of Touhou, Megamari and New Super Marisa Land.
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Post by: Garlyle on December 09, 2011, 08:59:31 AM
Labyrinth of Touhou / Touhou no Meikyuu. It's just such a goddamn awesome RPG by any standards, and then it's a Touhou game on top of that.
Honorable mentions go to Sengoku Gensokyo Gensokyo Tower Defense Super Marisa World (Yes, World, screw you all D:< )
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Post by: Piranha on December 09, 2011, 07:49:30 PM
New Super Marisa Land, because that's the only one I ever played. :V
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Post by: Naut on December 10, 2011, 01:00:05 AM
Patch-con. Lots of fun.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 10, 2011, 02:36:00 AM
What is your favorite extra theme?
Don't need to stall for two days to decide this one: Alice in Wonderland. One of the most nostalgic themes I've ever heard from ZUN. It has that quality that makes me love PC-98 music. <3 Honorable mention to Last Remote.
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Post by: Zil on December 10, 2011, 02:38:56 AM
Extra Love. UFO Romance in the Night Sky comes close because it sounds like La Blue Girl's theme.
Also, this is pretty late, but I've decided that my favorite Magical Astronomy song is Greenwich in the Sky. I'm also gonna say that the songs from this CD were awesome in general. I'm glad I got around to listening.
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Post by: J.O.B on December 10, 2011, 02:54:24 AM
Fuck this is hard. UFO Romance in the Night Sky is so fucking awesome, and Youkai Back Shrine Road is so awesome and fitting. Fuck I can't decide between the two.
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Post by: ふねん1 on December 10, 2011, 03:28:08 AM
This is a lot closer than I first though it would be. So much so that I'm willing to call this a three-way tie between MoF, SA, and UFO. They're all awesome in their own ways, so it's hard to decide if one of them really stands above the other two.
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Post by: K.B. on December 10, 2011, 04:27:42 AM
Centennial.
music questions so easy
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Post by: Formless God on December 10, 2011, 05:12:02 AM
MoF, SA, UFO.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 10, 2011, 06:01:59 AM
Extend Ash ~ Hourai Victim, especially from the point of Keine's second attack to the end. Love that part of the theme.
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on December 10, 2011, 07:35:20 AM
Tomorrow is Special, Yesterday was Not. It never occurred to me before, but this is probably a significant contributing factor to MoF being at the top of my favorite Extras list.
HM to Youkai Bakc Shrine Road. I've certainly been listening to it enough recently.
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Post by: BT on December 10, 2011, 08:40:22 AM
They're all good, dammit.
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Post by: I have no name on December 10, 2011, 08:52:10 AM
Last Remote. It says something about a song when it's stuck in your head for a week and it didn't get old.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 10, 2011, 09:18:00 AM
I found most of them pretty forgetable really. But I think my preference is the MS one. Second spot would probably go to the SA or UFO one.
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Post by: Skyler on December 10, 2011, 12:57:51 PM
I think The Centennial Festival for the Magic Girls is just slightly better than Extend Ash in my opinion.
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Post by: Piranha on December 10, 2011, 12:59:59 PM
Difficult question, but The Centennial Festival for the Magic Girls and Last Remote are my absolute favorites.
UFO Romance in the Night Sky and Youkai Back Shrine Road are tied for 2nd place.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on December 10, 2011, 05:47:20 PM
Tomorrow will be Special; Yesterday was Not and UFO Romance in the Night Sky are my favorites.
Youkai Back Shrine Road is also pretty good.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 10, 2011, 07:20:51 PM
UFO Romance in the Night Sky, of course. I absolutely love that song, even if the stage itself is hellish (hellishly fun!) Alice in Wonderland gets an honorable mention.
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Post by: K.B. on December 10, 2011, 07:59:04 PM
ZUN writing an extra-stage theme: "I have about thirty seconds of melody. This should be enough for a three-minute track."
Extra Love. Short and variegated.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 10, 2011, 09:13:40 PM
To be honest, that's what I've always loved about ZUN's style. In many songs I've listened to, there's often one really good part that I keep listening to over and over. With ZUN, that part is made into the base melody of the song and used to its fullest. :D
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Post by: VIZINGORD on December 11, 2011, 12:11:45 AM
Last Remote and Tomorrow Will Be Special; Yesterday Was Not.
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Post by: K.B. on December 11, 2011, 01:35:47 AM
Since when does having one melody make the theme bad? Most of ZUN's themes are like this, and yet most of them are exceptionally good.
Most? I don't know; maybe. But a decent amount of his music has more going on than most of his extra-stage themes, which is why I said what I did. Not that those are the only places where he beats a melody into the ground, but they're good examples.
Zil - I don't hear it. The occasional change in pace, key, and instrumentation (and the obligatory keyboard run), sure, but that doesn't do it for me. The melody remains essentially untouched. I'd find the themes more interesting if their lengths were halved; sure, it'd play twice over the stage, but there'd be far more new variance and it'd remain far more engaging. Other vgm, like old Mega Man tracks, were often exceedingly short, but they were so packed with ideas that you could loop them many times without getting bored. I can't think of any ZUNmusic that I dislike at the beginning (even with the intolerable auto-vibrato of ZUNpets), but I can think of many pieces that I can't stand after a minute and a half.
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Good thing we have ~opinions~.
Sounding a little snippy there. I thought my tongue-in-cheek parenthetical would have been enough of a tip-off that I wasn't trying to hurt feelings. Regardless, most of the ex-themes are repetitious, and I dislike them and had disagreed with your earlier assessment for that reason. I didn't think I needed to preface what I was writing with the disclaimer that music appreciation is largely subjective.
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Post by: Zil on December 11, 2011, 01:49:38 AM
Zil - I don't hear it. The occasional change in pace, key, and instrumentation (and the obligatory keyboard run), sure, but that doesn't do it for me.
I don't mean it's great, just the most tolerable of the extra themes. I agree that they are consistently monotonous. I think ZUN said in one of the song comments that he makes them like that on purpose for some reason.
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Post by: Critz on December 11, 2011, 03:22:01 AM
Charming domination, surely. Unlike the other ones, instead of getting boring, it kept on motivating me to get that clear :3.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 11, 2011, 09:06:13 AM
I think ZUN said in one of the song comments that he makes them like that on purpose for some reason.
Its the one time where he makes music to fit the stages, not the other way around. ;)
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Post by: GuppyForce on December 11, 2011, 04:38:36 PM
There's a lot of really good themes here but LAST REMOTE blows everything out of the water through sheer awesomeness. It's the reason I love playing through SA's extra so much.
Also really good are Centennial, Alice in Wonderland and Extend Ash, in that order.
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Post by: K.B. on December 11, 2011, 08:00:42 PM
I don't mean it's great, just the most tolerable of the extra themes. I agree that they are consistently monotonous. I think ZUN said in one of the song comments that he makes them like that on purpose for some reason.
Egg on my face there. I didn't recognize that as the name of an extra's theme - I thought you were speaking on the themes in general and thus giving them "extra love".
I can't afk hard enough right now.
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Post by: MMX on December 11, 2011, 09:52:24 PM
Centenial festival for magical girls was my favourite untill i listened it like thousand times while trying EoSD extra stage. Still it's on my mp3-player's playlist along with UFO romance in the night sky, wich is my favourite now.
P.S.: And i easily can choose the worst one: Youkai Back Shrine Road. Never heard a more pathetic piece from ZUN before ???
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 12, 2011, 03:52:10 AM
May as well finish off this series of questions in the next two days.
What is your favorite extra boss theme?
A lot of people consider the extra boss themes some of the best in the game. Whether or not you believe it, I command you to pick them off them off one by one until only your favorite remains. and. I COMMAND YOU. CHOOSE. CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE.
/me evil laughter
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Post by: Zil on December 12, 2011, 04:04:52 AM
U. N. Owen was Her? That's the most interesting one for me. I tend to like songs with this "insane" sound to them. (Dancing Mad, Mr. Bear, Heian Alien, etc.)
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Post by: VIZINGORD on December 12, 2011, 04:17:34 AM
A Maiden's Illusionary Funeral ~ Necro-Fantasy and Necrofantasia. Both are in the first place of my favorite extra boss themes. Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke is my third favorite.
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Post by: MMX on December 12, 2011, 04:21:58 AM
Hard to choose, they're almost all awesome :3 But i try to make my top 3 like this:
1. U.N. Owen was her 2. Native faith 3. Heian alien
Though the margin between the rest (except for IN and TD ones) is insiginificantly small.
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Post by: J.O.B on December 12, 2011, 04:25:21 AM
NATIVE FUCKING FAITH I also like Reach for the Moon ~ Immortal Smoke
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Post by: Formless God on December 12, 2011, 04:47:22 AM
Native Faith and Futatsuiwa From Sado its clone.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 12, 2011, 04:57:41 AM
Futatsuiwa From Sado, I haven't fought her, but that theme is catchy.
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Post by: ExPorygon on December 12, 2011, 05:12:27 AM
Reach for the Moon ~ Immortal Smoke is my favorite touhou theme overall, so naturally it's my pick for best extra boss theme.
After that, I have to go with Futatsuiwa from Sado. It's just so damn catchy!!
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Post by: ふねん1 on December 12, 2011, 05:50:04 AM
Indeed Donut, a lot of Extra Stage themes are really good. But for me this is an easy question: Necro-Fantasy. That melody is just God-tier, so much so that I'd call this my second favorite song in the whole series.
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Post by: I have no name on December 12, 2011, 07:33:58 AM
Native Faith, followed by Futatsuiwa from Sado. Seriously, this was an easy question.
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Post by: Nyarly on December 12, 2011, 07:59:10 AM
U.N. Owen was her?. I also like Necrofantasia and The Grimoire of Alice and recently started to appreciate Hartmann's Youkai Girl.
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Post by: Iliq on December 12, 2011, 08:02:49 AM
Hartmann's Youkai Girl, easily.
And best Extra theme is tied between Alice in Wonderland and Last Remote. Both are great.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 12, 2011, 08:23:44 AM
True, there is quite some good music in the Extra Boss department. It is a ten minute long boss fight so it would be problematic if the music wasn't good. As for my favorite, I'll probably go for Futatsuiwa from Sado because I'm original like that and always pick the newest one. Although that isn't the case at all. My runner up would probably be Native Faith. Its simple but still a classic for me. Or really, just about any song that doesn't molest your ears with a trumpet.
Also. UN is overrated. :trollface:
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Post by: Formless God on December 12, 2011, 08:34:41 AM
It has occured to me that I forgot all about Fairy Wars. If Magus Night counts, then that beats everything into the ground. Except Native Faith.
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Post by: Thaws on December 12, 2011, 11:07:28 AM
Native Faith is special in that it's like the 2nd song from Touhou I've ever heard (since that and UNOwen donaldMADs are like one of the earliest MADs out there...) but I'd say Hartmann's better because it fits Koishi so well.
Previous question: I personally find extra stage themes to be better than extra boss themes in most cases yet they get so overshadowed by the boss themes. :( Last remote's my favourite, with UFO Romance in the Night Sky second.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 12, 2011, 11:21:43 AM
Great tune. Glad I looked it up in the spirit of giving those lesser-heard themes a fair shot.
Sticking with Necro-Fantasy as tops (for now at least) but DLB is going in my top three. No, David. No. It is in your top one.
Goddamn I love this track. Having a fresh sonic palette doesn't hurt, either.
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Post by: Garlyle on December 13, 2011, 08:48:17 AM
Favourite Extra theme: Lose Rain (How am I the only one to mention this!?) or Charming Domination, I think; although Youkai Shrine Back Road is also fantastic, and Alice in Wonderland deserves mention too Favourite Extra Boss theme: Oh god where do I even begin? Necrofantasia, the Grimoire of Alice, Hartmann's Youkai Girl, Magus Night, Heian Alien... I can't choose ;-; I guess I'd probably give it to Necrofantasia though? No, wait, Magus Night, no, waitwaitwaitAUGH
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Post by: J.O.B on December 13, 2011, 08:49:41 AM
Heian Alien. It's just unique. As are all of them, but...you know what I mean.
U.F. Owen was her?
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Post by: KLH on December 15, 2011, 12:37:10 AM
1: NO REMORSE 2: Broken Strawberry Shortcake 1: Hartmann's Youkai Girl 2: Futatsuiwa from Sado
Hartmann's Youkai Girl and Last Remote are my favorite Extra Stage themes, because they actually sound like intense and fast-paced shmup music. Great for when you're fighting Koishi (which is the Extra boss I have found the most challenging)
Despite the playful sound of Futatsuiwa from Sado, I like its fast pace and how the melody intensifies near the end. Still great for a shmup battle.
Necrofantasia and Necro-Fantasy are acceptable, regarding both pace and melody. I still feel that both of them could be a little faster (I really prefer faster music).
I think that some of the others are either too slow (Heian Alien) or don't sound like that they belong in a shmup (Native Faith, Reach for the Moon ~ Immortal Smoke). And I do agree that U.N. Owen Was Her is overrated (as is Flandre, but this mostly the fault of McRoll, and more recently, Death Waltz).
but nothing beats NO REMORSE
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Post by: AJS on December 15, 2011, 01:28:52 AM
Goddammit....the toughest decision for me. >________<
I'll have to go with....
Necro-Fantasy...with Necrofantasia trailing very closely behind, followed immediately by Hartmann's Youkai Girl.
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Post by: Formless God on December 15, 2011, 02:19:15 AM
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 15, 2011, 02:36:38 AM
Alright alright, enough stalling on this one. There are a lot of extra themes that I love, and I can't think of a single one I don't like (yes I even have a soft spot for Evil Eye Sigma's theme). However, I must agree that Grimoire of Alice has an extremely strong melody. I kinda wish it did more with it, but it's such an amazing phrase it wins my vote anyway. :3 Honorable mention (well, besides all of them) to Necro Fantasy; that song is the reason I got hooked to Ran's fight, and subsequently the series.
Who is your favorite extra boss?
Time to finish off this series of questions. take it away!
Haaa, as for me, I hate this question, because my joint favorite characters are both extra bosses. Yukari and Gengetsu, I love them both dearly, and for quite different reasons. Between the two, I think Yukari slightly edges Gengetsu out, but it's so close it doesn't really matter.
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Post by: Zil on December 15, 2011, 02:50:17 AM
I'm gonna have to say Mokou. I love Rika too, but she doesn't have nearly as much character development. I also like how some of Mokou's spells are based off of Rika/Evil Eye Sigma's attacks. She also made them ridiculously easy, but I'll ignore that for now.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 15, 2011, 03:26:01 AM
Mokou and Flan are tied to me.
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Post by: Garlyle on December 15, 2011, 03:49:40 AM
In terms of Gameplay, Nue, followed by Marisa. They're both really fun fights that I find require a lot of different methods to handle and are really fun for me as a result; but I think I prefer Nue's because it's very sightreadable as a fight unlike a lot of extra bosses.
In terms of character, that's a little trickier--oh who am I kidding, SUWAKO ALL THE WAY
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Formless God on December 15, 2011, 04:13:08 AM
GFW Marisa, gameplay.
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Post by: Azinth on December 15, 2011, 04:19:39 AM
Gameplay-wise, I find Mokou to be the best by a fairly wide margin. At least, she's the only one who actually made me want to continue working on her after clearing the stage.
I also like Mamizou's fight for some reason. It's relaxing :V
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Post by: Starxsword on December 15, 2011, 04:21:15 AM
As a character, Yukari or maybe Suwako.
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Post by: MMX on December 15, 2011, 04:34:37 AM
I say Koishi. Though i never encountered her.
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Post by: J.O.B on December 15, 2011, 04:40:22 AM
As a character, Suwako. In gameplay, Marisa.
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Post by: I have no name on December 15, 2011, 04:58:49 AM
Suwako, or Koishi. Probably Suwako though.
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Post by: AJS on December 15, 2011, 05:12:26 AM
Character-wise, Yukari hands down. :V
Gameplay wise, well, I do find GFW Marisa very challenging, but I'm kinda biased against her due to the fact that she still rapes the hell out of me, and is the only Windows Extra Boss I haven't beaten yet. :blush:
But other than that, I think Nue's pretty good gameplay-wise. I was tempted to say Koishi, but her fight gets boring once you memorize everything. When it comes to Nue, I could know exactly what I need to do, but she can still get the better of me every so often. :derp:
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Post by: Zil on December 15, 2011, 05:32:43 AM
Well since everyone else is saying gameplay... Nue's the most fun for me, with GFW Marisa in second. Most of these bosses are pretty dull to fight once you get the hang of them, probobly due to the unreasonable number of non-random attacks they always have.
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Post by: KLH on December 15, 2011, 05:36:22 AM
Koishi, without a doubt.
Yukari may be one of my favorite characters, but Koishi's boss battle is just so much better designed. Most importantly, the difficulty. Yukari was a joke, but Koishi was actually moderately challenging (I think it took me ~8-10 attempts to beat her the first time, and I haven't yet done a one-miss clear like with Yukari and Suwako).
Her theme song is better, and she's a more amusing character.
Finally, HER HAT. I don't know why I love that damn hat so much. I really want to bring it into Team Fortress 2 and put it (and the closed third eye) onto the Spy. Speaking of which, Koishi makes an excellent Spy (and I wonder what's for dinner how a Fancy Fedora would look on Koishi)
But other than that, I think Nue's pretty good gameplay-wise. I was tempted to say Koishi, but her fight gets boring once you memorize everything. When it comes to Nue, I could know exactly what I need to do, but she can still get the better of me every so often. :derp:
After getting accustomed to the attack patterns of both, I'd still have to say that I find Koishi harder. On the other hand, I'd like to play against Koishi again, but DAMN the stage is SO BORING. In contrast, Nue's stage is much more interesting (and legitimately challenging), none of this obnoxiously slow bullet ring BS, instead you get some awesome arcade-style bullet hell patterns.
Well since everyone else is saying gameplay... Nue's the most fun for me, with GFW Marisa in second. Most of these bosses are pretty dull to fight once you get the hang of them, probobly due to the unreasonable number of non-random attacks they always have.
True that. I think all the Extra Bosses could use faster-paced and shorter battles with more randomized attacks.
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Post by: VIZINGORD on December 15, 2011, 07:09:12 AM
As a character, Yukari. Gameplay wise, Mokou.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 15, 2011, 09:58:41 AM
I would say Mamizou because I think she has some pretty good spells for an Extra Boss. However, she has a boatload of terribufuckus ones too so I'll go with Nue because she wears those socks... and because of that final spell and a survival card where the difficulty doesn't rely on memorization. The rainbow UFO card and the Undefined Darkness card are also surprisingly fun for an extra boss. Mamizou though has too many of those superbly boring cards that takes forever to clear but aren't hard, a shitty final card and crappy non-spells. Nue's non-spells are actually fairly decent. Like Mokou's.
Most of these bosses are pretty dull to fight once you get the hang of them, probobly due to the unreasonable number of non-random attacks they always have.
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Post by: Piranha on December 15, 2011, 10:07:01 AM
Gameplay wise, Mokou, since I tried only her and Ran yet...
Character wise it's Yukari.
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Post by: BT on December 15, 2011, 04:00:19 PM
Gameplay-wise, Nue. I'd find Suwako more "fun" if it included her stage. Really, most of the bosses besides, like, Ran/Yukari and Mokou are fun. The former is filled with "either know how to do or never do" cards while the latter's cards are just beyond terrible; they're always either clip-happy, purely pattern-based or BOTH. Some of them are simply bullshit, as well. SO ANGRY, THIS MAKES ME.
Suwako wins overall for CHARACTER, though. <3
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Post by: Skyler on December 15, 2011, 06:01:27 PM
Mokou is my favourite character-wise. In terms of gameplay it's definitely Ran; her fight is really fun.
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Post by: ふねん1 on December 15, 2011, 06:01:40 PM
Koishi, on both accounts. Her boss fight was always fun, even after learning how everything worked, and as for Koishi as a character, well, all I have to say is "thanks Gpop". :V
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 15, 2011, 06:54:40 PM
Nue's fight is great fun. I do enjoy that about her. As far as personality goes, though, that's Koishi all the way. Cute, possibly psychotic, smart, what's not to like? An honorable mention to Suwako, because she is just too playful and fun~
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on December 15, 2011, 08:19:42 PM
Suwako, no doubt.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 17, 2011, 03:02:16 AM
What is your favorite last spell theme?
You know these: In various games, occasionally the final boss moves beyond the final spell card to make one final desperation attack. Invariably, this is accompanied by awesome music. Which one do you enjoy the most? For PC-98 fans, Civilization of Magic counts.
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Post by: Iliq on December 17, 2011, 03:16:54 AM
For the question I just missed, Koishi as both character and boss. Youkai Polygraph is a amazing attack, even if I've never reached it. :3c
Favorite Last Spell goes to Voyage 1970, mostly because Voyage 1969 is my favourite stage theme.
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Post by: Starxsword on December 17, 2011, 03:21:01 AM
One of my favorite songs, Bhava-Agra as Seen Through a Child's Mind.
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Post by: Formless God on December 17, 2011, 03:23:37 AM
Voyage 1970
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Post by: I have no name on December 17, 2011, 03:31:36 AM
'final' Border of Life
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 17, 2011, 03:37:56 AM
"X, the Floating Objects in the Sky" by a mile.
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Post by: ExPorygon on December 17, 2011, 05:10:59 AM
Actually surprised by how many "last spell" themes there actually are. However, "Final" Border of Life beats all of them.
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Post by: Zil on December 17, 2011, 05:41:12 AM
Umm... Border of Life. The only one I ever listen to, or that I am even really aware of.
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Post by: Garlyle on December 17, 2011, 07:37:45 AM
Kind of hard to pick, actually, as there's so few and they're all pretty kickass. But I'm gonna go with Bhava-Agra As Seen Through A Child's Mind.
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Post by: Azinth on December 17, 2011, 07:42:31 AM
Yeah, Border of Life for this one.
PCB Normal happened to be my very first Touhou 1cc (and PCB was also my first Lunatic 1cc, incidentally). Nothing beats that very first time you see the final card slow down and explode into hundreds of cherry point items just as that kickass guitar solo comes in. It's just magical.
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Post by: Piranha on December 17, 2011, 12:01:26 PM
Border of Life
I find PCB to have the best progression of music throughout the game and after everything that came before, it's just a perfect end.
Nothing beats that very first time you see the final card slow down and explode into hundreds of cherry point items just as that kickass guitar solo comes in. It's just magical.
Edit: X, the Floating Objects in the Sky is pretty cool as well. HM to Voyage 1970, because it was the first Last Word theme I ever heard, and I still like it.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on December 17, 2011, 02:14:54 PM
Border of Life
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Post by: MMX on December 17, 2011, 03:14:24 PM
Border of life (though i never played PCB).
What a silly question. Proceed to next :V
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Post by: Skyler on December 17, 2011, 04:43:11 PM
Border of Life. It's also my favourite theme in PCB.
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Post by: pineyappled on December 17, 2011, 05:37:12 PM
Voyage 1970. Border of Life final irks me. The fighter ones are very close seconds.
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Post by: VIZINGORD on December 17, 2011, 06:20:38 PM
Border of Life. Second is Bhava-Agra as Seen Through a Child's Mind.
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Post by: Nyarly on December 17, 2011, 07:49:51 PM
Bhava-Agra as Seen Through a Child's Mind.
No inferior versions of Bloom Nobly, Cherry Blossoms of Sumizome ~ Border of Life for me. Yes, I just said that Border of Life, the inexplicably popular final spell theme, is inferior to the song it's based on. Sue me.
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Post by: K.B. on December 18, 2011, 04:41:05 PM
PCB Normal happened to be my very first Touhou 1cc (and PCB was also my first Lunatic 1cc, incidentally). Nothing beats that very first time you see the final card slow down and explode into hundreds of cherry point items just as that kickass guitar solo comes in. It's just magical.
This. Word for word.
Best moment in Touhou.
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Post by: AJS on December 18, 2011, 10:58:46 PM
Bhava-Agra as seen through a Child's Mind comes very close to being my favorite, but I still have to say that I'd go with Border of Life hands down...the epicness I experienced when I first faced it is indescribable.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 19, 2011, 04:35:42 AM
I really hope I'm not the only one to go "huh?" I don't even know their names. >_> Too busy trying not to die to pay much attention to a music switch. I honestly didn't know until the recent posts in this thread that Border of Life was a distinct "last spell theme".
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 19, 2011, 04:44:44 AM
There's no need to act all snooty over every question that relates to the details of the games. :wat: In that case, here's all the names:
Civilization of Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vtd_uyO1uY) Border of Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69jezLrwbU4) Voyage 1970 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywuUt98V_S4) Bhava-Agra as Seen through a Child's Mind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM636580PhI) The Floating Objects in the Sky X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga_Xh4iw9T4&feature=related)
And for the confusion on the name, that's understandable. Yuyuko's normal theme is "Bloom Nobly, Cherry Blossoms of Sumizome ~ Border of Life," while her last spell theme played on Resurrection Butterfly is simply "Border of Life."
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 19, 2011, 05:01:32 AM
There's no need to act all snooty over every question that relates to the details of the games. :wat:
I came off as "snooty" when I was being confused as hell? Okay then.
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Post by: DarkslimeZ on December 19, 2011, 02:34:13 PM
Gonna go with Bhava-Agra. Runner-up is Voyage 1970.
And I don't even play TH10.5 :X
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 20, 2011, 03:20:55 AM
Yeah, after some thinking, I will go with Bhava-Agra as well. Simply amazing theme.
And speaking of SWR, it's time for a two day special!
What is your favorite original SWR song?
If you ask me, SWR has one of the best soundtracks in the series (ironic, since only a few songs are by ZUN). So, putting aside the character theme remixes, which of the original themes is your favorite? By this, I include the opening/ending/credits, original character themes, and pre-battle themes.
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Post by: Starxsword on December 20, 2011, 03:31:59 AM
There are a few that come to mind. Darkening Dusk. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhckAXUw75U) Bhava-Agra as Seen Through a Child's Mind. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM636580PhI) Higan Retour ~ Riverside View. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaRWZhDhnqw)
I guess it will have to be Bhava Agra as Seen Through a Child's Mind, but it is a very tough choice.
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Post by: Paper Conan on December 20, 2011, 04:40:55 AM
I guess it will have to be Bhava Agra as Seen Through a Child's Mind, but it is a very easy choice.
This... :]
I actually like all the generic songs that have SWR's theme in it. They're calming, but Bhava Aafgra as Seeohjadhfih-stuff has that ~epic~ final boss feel
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Post by: Garlyle on December 20, 2011, 08:01:11 AM
I'm sticking with Bhava-Agra for the second answer in a row.
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Post by: Piranha on December 20, 2011, 12:24:57 PM
For this time, Bhava Agra as Seen Through a Child's Mind.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 20, 2011, 02:26:39 PM
I'm going to go with Legendary Fish
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Post by: VIZINGORD on December 20, 2011, 03:21:50 PM
Bhava-Agra as Seen Through a Child's Mind.
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Post by: theshirn on December 20, 2011, 03:41:01 PM
No love for Dancing Splashes?
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on December 20, 2011, 04:08:02 PM
Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish
Iku is awesome :)
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Post by: DarkslimeZ on December 20, 2011, 05:18:20 PM
I have to take Bhava-Agra over Legendary Fish, but they're both great.
Unfortunately I don't know much of the soundtrack other than the character theme remixes ;x
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Post by: Skyler on December 20, 2011, 06:19:40 PM
Wonderful Heaven for sure.
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Post by: Nyarly on December 20, 2011, 07:30:10 PM
Sky of Scarlet Perception (and by extension, to a lesser extent, Darkening Dusk and Oriental Sky of Scarlet Perception, ), Catastrophe in Bhava-agra ~ Wonderful Heaven and Bhava-agra As Seen Through a Child's Mind.
Usual Days and the The Ground's Color is Yellow are pretty nice too.
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Post by: MTSranger on December 20, 2011, 07:57:49 PM
Can't decide on this one. Top: 天衣無縫 Flawless Clothing of the Celestials 冷吟閑酔 Drunk as I Like 香る樹葉花 Fragrant Plants 東方緋想天 Oriental Sky of Scarlet Perception
Runner up: 緋想天 Sky of Scarlet Perception 地の色は黄色 The Ground's Color is Yellow 踊る水飛沫 Dancing Water Spray
As for Final Spell... Voyage 1970 no contest
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Post by: Azinth on December 20, 2011, 08:03:09 PM
Wonderful Heaven is the only theme from this game that I actually remember so that obvs means that it's the best :V
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 20, 2011, 09:25:10 PM
Favorite last spell theme: Now that Donut did me the favour of linking all of them, the answer is "none of them". They are all unremarkable. In particular, I've never understood why anyone likes Bhava-agra (which is to me the most unremarkable of all), but to each his and her own, I guess.
Favorite original SWR song? Autoplay is my revenge for Donut being silly a few days ago Actually that would be mean when people are trying to think of music. Consider yourself spared, pastry. >.<
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Post by: Paper Conan on December 20, 2011, 09:56:57 PM
Favorite last spell theme: Now that Donut did me the favour of linking all of them, the answer is "none of them". They are all unremarkable. In particular, I've never understood why anyone likes Bhava-agra (which is to me the most unremarkable of all), but to each his and her own, I guess.
Favorite original SWR song? Autoplay is my revenge for Donut being silly a few days ago Actually that would be mean when people are trying to think of music. Consider yourself spared, pastry. >.<
I like Bhava Agra as seojalhglseihr-stuff because the instruments used make it sound climatically lovely.~ The credits theme.... :X
How could I forget about this song
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 20, 2011, 11:33:37 PM
Quote
Favorite original SWR song? Autoplay is my revenge for Donut being silly a few days ago Actually that would be mean when people are trying to think of music. Consider yourself spared, pastry. >.<
Hmm hmm, you'd have to play a song I didn't like for that to be a punishment. :]
As for me, it's rather hard to choose. Bhava Agra is still my favorite, but choosing the same song twice in a row would be boring, so hmm...
There are so many I want to choose, but I suppose if I had to choose just one, it would be Fragrant Plants. Really, that and Dancing Water Spray are one song split into two, but I like this version slightly better.
Honorable mentions to Darkening Dusk, Skies Beyond the Clouds, and Wonderful Heaven.
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Post by: Iliq on December 21, 2011, 12:03:31 AM
Ridiculous Game. How has it not been mentioned yet?
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Post by: Zil on December 21, 2011, 12:06:07 AM
Ridiculous Game. I really don't have much of an opinion on these, I guess this is the best. Also surprised nobody else has said it.
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Post by: Esper on December 21, 2011, 12:12:04 AM
Bhava-Agra as Seen Through a Child's Mind NecroFantasia
I don't have many favorites, honorable mentions go to Reisen's and Sakuya's themes because they've had me listening for more than two times but not as often as the two above.
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Post by: ExPorygon on December 21, 2011, 01:00:41 AM
Unlike IaMP, I don't care for much of the original tracks. Except for Crimson in the Black Sea ~ Legendary Fish.
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Post by: KrackoCloud on December 21, 2011, 01:21:29 AM
Bhava-Agra is nice. It's too bad most SWR original songs are just arrangements of each other.
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Post by: pineyappled on December 21, 2011, 08:42:00 AM
Flawless Clothing of the Celestials wins by a long shot. Tenshi:s theme is a close second and where the hell is the apostrophe key ugh.
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Post by: theshirn on December 21, 2011, 03:36:02 PM
In particular, I've never understood why anyone likes Bhava-agra (which is to me the most unremarkable of all), but to each his and her own, I guess.
Thissssssss. Both versions of Bhava-Agra are, to me, fairly uninteresting.
Also I think I'm going to have to ever-so-slightly let Flawless Clothing of the Celestials outweigh Dancing Splashes, now that I think on it, but you really can't go wrong with either. Ridiculous Game is also fairly decent, but it doesn't measure up to either of these, and I prefer Dancing Splashes more vibrant and bouncy execution over Fragrant Plants, though it too is excellent.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 22, 2011, 02:41:51 AM
What is your favorite remixed theme in SWR?
Your mileage may vary, but I think SWR also did a spectacular job with remixing character themes. Which one is your favorite then? Note that this discounts Iku and Tenshi's themes, since they're originally from the game.
Septette for the Dead Princess here. Absolutely amazing arrange in my opinion. Bonus points for being I think the only one that doesn't have a crazy improv section thrown in at the end. :V The remix of Invisible Full Moon is also particularly snazzy.
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Post by: XephyrEnigma on December 22, 2011, 02:46:39 AM
Border of Life gets my vote. It's just so energetic. Quite good for a fighting game track. But at the same time, I have to agree with Donut as well about Septette.
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Post by: Zil on December 22, 2011, 03:11:29 AM
Oh yes, IaMP had horrible remixes, but SWR's are great. I love the metal approach to Casket of Star, but I'll go with the Doll Maker of Bucuresti. They took a dull monotonous song and extracted all the good aspects. It realized its true potential, so to speak.
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Post by: DarkslimeZ on December 22, 2011, 03:15:53 AM
The remix of Touhou Hisouten.
Both the original and the remix are both in the game, and the song rocks.
EDIT -- OKAY since we can only have themes that weren't originally in the game I guess Broken Moon's arrangement gets my vote
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Post by: I have no name on December 22, 2011, 03:36:12 AM
Again with the SWR. Had to be one of the few games I haven't played. Casket of Star though because I liked the original and this makes it more awesome.
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Post by: MTSranger on December 22, 2011, 04:37:38 AM
If 12.3 counts, then Grimoire of Alice. Otherwise, Casket of Star.
Edit: oops, on second thought, the runner ups are: 東方妖恋談 Mystic Oriental Love Consultation 夜が降りてくる Night Falls
Not sure if either counts.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 22, 2011, 04:40:31 AM
The Dollmaker of Bucuresti
EDIT: Oh wait does Night Falls count?
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Post by: Starxsword on December 22, 2011, 04:48:43 AM
Higan Retour ~ Riverside View. Broken Moon is also very good.
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Post by: ふねん1 on December 22, 2011, 05:16:35 AM
Catch-up time.
Favorite "Last Spell" theme: Voyage 1970. I kinda like that it's just the crazy piano in this song instead of the other things Voyage 1969 has. Makes the Last Spells sound more intense that way. Favorite original Hisouten song: Sky of Scarlet Perception. Best Touhou title theme ever. Favorite remixed Hisouten song: Flowering Night. I actually can't stand listening to most of Hisouten's remixes, but this one sounds surprisingly better than the original to me.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on December 22, 2011, 01:01:47 PM
Broken Moon
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Post by: Piranha on December 22, 2011, 01:41:27 PM
Flowering Night. Sounds even better than the PoFV version.
2nd is Septette, tied with Higan Retour ~ Riverside View and Broken Moon
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Post by: Paper Conan on December 22, 2011, 03:51:30 PM
My vote would go for Invisible Full Moon... if it hadn't removed the best part of the song and just kept the beginning melody. :I The Dollmaker of Bucuresti, oh the other hand, is gorgeous. Why does Alice always get the best remixes? :3
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Post by: theshirn on December 22, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
The Riverside Shanty gets my vote.
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Post by: Formless God on December 23, 2011, 12:44:54 AM
Original: Evening Sky. Best title theme ever. Remixed: Lunatic Full Moon.
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Post by: Iliq on December 23, 2011, 08:39:56 AM
Thinking about it, Broken Moon is probably my favourite song in SWR.
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Post by: Skyler on December 24, 2011, 03:02:38 AM
Invisible Full Moon.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 24, 2011, 03:12:51 AM
What is your favorite character title?
Before fighting, each character displays their name and a cool character title. There are many of these, and often more than one per character. Which one is your favorite?
See all character titles here (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Character_Titles)
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Post by: Zil on December 24, 2011, 03:17:25 AM
Pitiable Illegally Dumped Object is the first thing that comes to mind, but I'm going to go through that list. Super Youkai Warhead is also amazing. XD And Wicked Hermit Passing through Walls. These things are just weird.
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Post by: Formless God on December 24, 2011, 03:19:32 AM
Super Youkai Warhead
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Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on December 24, 2011, 03:28:38 AM
My favorite is probably Scorching Troublesome Divine Flame.
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Post by: ふねん1 on December 24, 2011, 03:38:21 AM
Hell's Traffic Accident.
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Post by: Starxsword on December 24, 2011, 03:46:11 AM
Some of the titles are different from what I heard. In any case, I like Eternally Young Scarlet Moon, Flower Master of the Four Seasons, and Half Human Half Ghost and Half Baked. My favorite might be Tiny Pandemonium.
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Post by: I have no name on December 24, 2011, 03:54:14 AM
Magician Randomly Passing By (Marisa, GFW extra). Hell's Traffic Accident (Orin, SA S5) Innocent Ghost (I think I remember this for Yuyuko somewhere)
One of these 3.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 24, 2011, 03:56:00 AM
What is your favorite remixed theme in SWR? Uhh, I don't remember this game's remixed music much. Hold on... looks like that's Flowering Night. What is your favorite character title? Didn't even need to click the link. It's Flower Master of the Four Seasons. Fantasy Legend is cool too.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 24, 2011, 04:20:50 AM
Anyone else think of 'Boom de Yada' (opening line: I love the mountains) when they saw this?
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Post by: Garlyle on December 24, 2011, 05:52:52 AM
Hell's Traffic Accident Hyperactive Monster Cat The Wheel That Guards and Is Guarded Flying Rare Item Pitiable Illegally Dumped Object The Petty Patrol Tengu Super Youkai Warhead Old Youkai #1 Freewheeling Human Rumored Unnatural Phenomenon
There, my top ten.
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Post by: Athrel on December 24, 2011, 06:30:03 AM
Diabolic Wave and Ruinous Super strength
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on December 24, 2011, 09:31:58 AM
Beautiful Scarlet Cloth (Iku, SWR) The Sealed Great Magician (Byakuren, UFO) Mastermind behind the Spiriting Away (Yukari, PCB) Sickness in Everyone's Heart (Satori, DS) Epitome of Native Gods (Suwako, MoF) Super Youkai Warhead (Nitori, MoF) Corpse Tour Guide (Rin, DS) Ghost of the Children of the Gods (Tojiko, TD)
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Post by: BT on December 24, 2011, 09:50:15 AM
Gotta love the random ones that give you random chuckles, like "Makai Person" and "The Flower that Blooms in the Sky and Old Man".
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Post by: Skyler on December 24, 2011, 03:35:36 PM
Half-Human, Half-Ghost and Half-Baked is pretty funny to me. Uncanny Smile too. But Nagging Helpful Lecture is probably my favourite.
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Post by: Piranha on December 24, 2011, 10:32:10 PM
Shikigami of the Shikigami of the Sukima Youkai Hyperactive Monster Cat Memory of Gensoukyou Flying Rare Item Someone Thinking of Nothing Pitiable Illegally Dumped Object What Winter Left Behind Super Youkai Warhead The Unmoving Great Library Half-Human Half-Ghost and Half-Baked
Top Ten in no specific order since there are way too many good ones. I like almost all of StB's titles btw.
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Post by: Paper Conan on December 24, 2011, 11:03:47 PM
Nagging Helpful Lecture made me lol irl when I first saw it. :3 Otherwise, I won't vote. I really love all of the titles ZUN has given to everyone.
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Post by: VIZINGORD on December 25, 2011, 02:28:03 AM
What is your favorite remixed theme in SWR? Septette for the Dead Princess and The Grimoire of Alice.
What is your favorite character title? Super Youkai Warhead and Subterranean Sun.
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on December 26, 2011, 09:01:23 PM
A few that jump out at me:
The Big Wheel That Guards and is Guarded Someone Thinking of Nothing What Winter Left Behind The Little Dowser General The Unmoving Used Goods Seller Mischievous Sunlight The Girl Even the Evil Spirits Fear Nagging Helpful Lecture Tiny Pandemonium Enlightened Ghost Turtle
But my favorite has to be Shizuha's "Heart-rending Crimson Rain", just for the imagery.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 27, 2011, 05:22:06 AM
Ayaya, I completely forgot to research this one due to Christmas. D: I'll have to pass on answering this question until later.
What is your favorite title theme?
You know, that song you scream by in five seconds? Yeah, some of those are pretty neat. Which one is your favorite?
Favorite is Memory of Foregathering Dream, but it's almost unfair to pick a fighting game one. As for the main series ones that are remixes of the main theme...MoF. It's a fantastical one that feels more vibrant than any of the other non-fighting game themes.
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Post by: I have no name on December 27, 2011, 05:32:06 AM
The one from Great Fairy Wars, whatever it's named.
I can't be bothered to look it up right now.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 27, 2011, 05:42:14 AM
Newshound from Double Spoiler.
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Post by: Paper Conan on December 27, 2011, 06:36:21 AM
Double Spoiler's menu theme is nice, especially since it doesn't have the tune of failure after I finished rage-quitting.
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Post by: Zil on December 27, 2011, 06:52:21 AM
SoEW or MS, hard to choose. The best for a windows game is the one from SA. Also, I just realized that the song I thought was Ridiculous Game is actually Dancing Waterspray, so my favorite SWR original song is, well, Dancing Waterspray.
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Post by: MTSranger on December 27, 2011, 07:20:26 AM
Probably the one from MoF. DS and UFO are pretty good as well.
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on December 27, 2011, 08:54:35 AM
Oh, this one's easy. I dun even hafta relisten to 'em all.
Mystic Dream ~ Snow or Cherry Petal
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on December 27, 2011, 09:27:13 AM
Awakening of the Earth Spirits from SA
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Post by: Formless God on December 27, 2011, 10:54:15 AM
The lack of Evening Sky is unsettling. On my very first play of SWR, I left the game minimized at the title screen for two hours straight.
For the main series, Ten Desires'.
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Post by: Piranha on December 27, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
Eastern Night(IN) or Higan Retour(PoFV), can't decide.
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Post by: BT on December 27, 2011, 02:09:40 PM
UFO. Probably the most straightforward answer I had in this thread.
Really puts you in the mood, for whatever reason.
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Post by: ふねん1 on December 27, 2011, 02:28:53 PM
Sky of Scarlet Perception/Evening Sky, whichever you want to call it. Similar experience as Formless here, I boot up Hisouten real quick (to check on something for Soku), I hear the title theme for the first time and immediately go "wow this is really good". It's just way too beautiful.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 27, 2011, 03:06:56 PM
UFO or SA. Not entirely sure since i barely ever get to hear them. :)
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Post by: fsvgm777 on December 27, 2011, 04:00:49 PM
My favourite title theme is Mystic Dream ~ Snow or Cherry Petal (PCB). It's the only reason I leave the game window unfocused (by clicking on the desktop, for instance) for at least one loop of the song.
I also like Newshound (DS).
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Post by: Skyler on December 27, 2011, 04:40:35 PM
Awakening of the Earth Spirits wins for me. Honourable mention to Imperishable Night ~ Eastern Night.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 27, 2011, 10:29:26 PM
As much as I'd like to say Evening Sky, it wore thin on me a long time ago when I was playing the hell out of the demo version to be ready for the full version come Reitaisai 5. So I liked it once, a while ago, but not anymore. Now, it's Awakening of the Earth Spirits. It's the only opening theme that's really engaging to me.
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Post by: Desu_Cake on December 27, 2011, 11:56:07 PM
Gensokyo~Lotus Land Story. Something about it just gets me hyped up.
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Post by: Garlyle on December 28, 2011, 02:36:56 PM
I'm gonna say Tengu's Notebook (StB) because dat rain, although Did you see that Shadow? (soku), though Mystic Square (durr), An Ice Fairy In Spring (GFW), and whatever the Ten Desires one is are worth mentioning.
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Post by: VIZINGORD on December 28, 2011, 10:53:32 PM
Awakening of the Earth Spirits (Subterranean Animism) is my favorite. It is also the first one that i listened.
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Post by: K.B. on December 29, 2011, 12:55:35 AM
IN's.
IN's title track strikes a balance (and contrast) between natural and artificial sounds that sends chills down my spine. It's otherworldly (and fittingly so), and the additive time signature adds to the effect. When I was first trying the games, I popped one credit apiece into 6-8. But before I could get to that with eight, I just put down the keyboard and listened.
More than any other piece, Eastern Night is Touhou to me.
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Post by: XephyrEnigma on December 29, 2011, 01:29:19 AM
IN's title track strikes a balance (and contrast) between natural and artificial sounds that sends chills down my spine. It's otherworldly (and fittingly so), and the additive time signature adds to the effect. When I was first trying the games, I popped one credit apiece into 6-8. But before I could get to that with eight, I just put down the keyboard and listened.
More than any other piece, Eastern Night is Touhou to me.
/agree: This man put it better than I ever could've.
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Post by: Critz on December 29, 2011, 02:01:09 AM
Sealed Gods from MoF. My favorite of all Theme of Eastern Story title screen versions. The mystical feel sets the atmosphere for the game perfectly, and if certain yt comment can be believed, it kind of hints of the incoming battles. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOO3B24Yn-I) And the waterfall part with audible drops <3. Otherwise, Evening Sky from SWR. It's sort of a second main theme of Touhou for me, after Theme of Eastern Story, with all of it's remixes between fights, the pre-Iku and Tenshi battles being most awesome ones. Hell, SWR is propably the only game I've enjoyed so thoroughly for the music, the storyline AND the characterization.
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Post by: Starxsword on December 29, 2011, 02:24:04 AM
For the non-fighting games, my favorite title screen theme is the Ten Desires one, Spirit of Desire. Overall, I like the Hisoutensoku title theme, Did You See That Shadow?, the best.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on December 30, 2011, 03:04:31 AM
Hmm hmm, time for more PC-98 goodness. >:D
What is your favorite unused theme?
There are probably many themes that ZUN scrapped for use in games, many that were rejected only on them not fitting the atmosphere. Sadly, with one exception, the only ones we are privy to are from the PC-98 era. So, which of these is your favorite?
Of course, I'll root them all out and save you all the trouble:
Shrine of the Wind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VbwkoMNU4M) Hakurei Shrine Grounds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghHobdop2Yg) Sunfall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AF-cWoipOQ) Sealed Demon's Finale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRVTgSgiH5s) Winds of Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fit8WcciYVA) Starbow Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE20H9en5JU) Phantasmagoria (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V50UU9JnUOw) Lotus Road (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3-X3q7-XnY) Dreamy Pilot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BfJrr_O4p4&feature=related) Incomplete Plot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttglSLb2niA) Border Land (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4n9pYstX8s&feature=related) Magic Shop of Raspberry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbUckL77280) Crescent Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgDEna5zxUg&feature=related) Flower of the Past - Fairy of Flower (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp3v96KRaxs)
I would add in the unused versions of Orange and Yuka's themes, but that's quite enough to choose from already. ;^_^
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Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on December 30, 2011, 03:25:03 AM
I'm only hearing a lot of these for the first time, but I'd have to say Lotus Road and Dreamy Pilot certainly stand out.
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Post by: Phlegeth on December 30, 2011, 04:21:14 AM
Crescent Dream sounds so cool.
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Post by: Garlyle on December 30, 2011, 04:51:47 AM
Hakurei Shrine Grounds has always been a favourite of mine. Dreamy Pilot and Incomplete Plot are nice though, and oh god I think I prefer Flower of the Past to a lot of PCB's soundtrack (It's definitely not one of my preferred soundtracks in the series so)
Fun fact: In a fanmade remake of SoEW. they chose to use Sunfall instead of the standard theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYfieMR9swk)
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Post by: Starxsword on December 30, 2011, 06:38:18 AM
I haven't heard of any of these songs and Lotus Road sounds like the best.
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Post by: Piranha on December 30, 2011, 08:17:02 AM
They are all pretty good, even though I'm hearing them for the first time.
The ones I like the most are Lotus Road, Dreamy Pilot, Magic Shop of Raspberry and Crescent Dream, with the latter two slightly in lead of the former two.
But I would have to hear all of them a lot more to decide, because it's pretty close...
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on December 30, 2011, 08:27:32 AM
Flower of the Past - Fairy of Flower sounds pretty nice.
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Post by: Sality on December 30, 2011, 11:32:24 AM
To be honest, this is my very first time listening to most of the songs you provided. Okay, this might be not my first, but I have a hard time to remember.
Anyway, Flower of the Past - Fairy of Flower sounds good to me.
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Post by: Zengeku on December 30, 2011, 12:50:13 PM
The Phantasmagoria one. If that's the one I'm thinking of, but i'm sure it is.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on December 30, 2011, 06:46:34 PM
I really like all of ZUN's unused PoDD work, so I'm gonna go with Winds of Time.
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on December 31, 2011, 11:23:48 AM
*finally gets around to listening to these* Oh wow, Dreamy Pilot. Dreamy Pilot so hard. 2nd place, solidly Crescent Dream. 3rd... massive tie for all the PoDD tracks, Raspberry, and Shrine Grounds, which I can't be bothered to sort out just now tyvm, too busy rockin' to Dream Pilot.
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Post by: Zil on January 01, 2012, 06:12:52 PM
Man, ZUN new what he was doing when he was putting together the PoDD soundtrack, but my choice will have to be Lotus Road. Phantasmagoria is the next best though. It's neat how you can see the similarities between these tracks and the ones he actually used, but does anyone else think Winds of Time sounds something like Remilia's theme?
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Post by: nintendonut888 on January 01, 2012, 06:31:27 PM
Heh, more people liked these than I thought. :3 Sorry for the schedule slip everybody; serious computer troubles and new years distracted me. There will be an update tonight as usual.
As for me, even though I didn't answer right away, the answer was always clear to me: Dreamy Pilot. I understand why he didn't use it in-game, but this is a magnificent and emotional piece. Second is Crescent Dream, possibly my favorite of all ending themes (maybe). I like almost all of them though.
Also, for those interested, here are the two themes I left out. It's hard to count them, since they're unused versions of songs that did make it into the final game:
EDIT: Oh shoot, it just hit me that I forgot one of the themes. D: I'm so sorry!
Border Land (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4n9pYstX8s&feature=related)
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Post by: Phlegeth on January 01, 2012, 07:31:16 PM
Okay Border Land just replaced Crescent Dream as my answer :3
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Post by: nintendonut888 on January 02, 2012, 02:41:59 AM
Alright, subtly springboarding off of what I said earlier:
What is your favorite ending theme?
You know, those songs that play after your heart-pumping victory? Tell me, which is your favorite? Note that I'm talking about the ones that play over the ending sequences, NOT the credits.
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Post by: Skyler on January 02, 2012, 04:06:15 AM
I quite like the EoSD one (can't be bothered to remember the name) although I should probably go look at some others because I know only 3 of them. edit: Okay, I listened to them all and the MoF one is definitely my favourite.
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Post by: ふねん1 on January 02, 2012, 05:19:42 AM
I never really listened to the ending themes that much, save for SA's. Though after listening through them all again, I'm leaning toward PCB's theme, Dream of a Spring Breeze. It's peaceful in just the right way to really get you into it, perhaps useful for whenever you finish that difficult 1cc.
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Post by: Phlegeth on January 02, 2012, 05:22:27 AM
Tie between Earth Spirits' Homecoming (SA) and Darkening Dusk (SWR)
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Post by: Zengeku on January 02, 2012, 05:29:42 AM
UFO's. Its the only one where my heart is actually pumping. :V
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Post by: Formless God on January 02, 2012, 06:24:22 AM
Earth Spirits' Homecoming
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Post by: Zil on January 02, 2012, 07:36:36 AM
The Earth Spirits' Homecoming Very nostalgic, being my first Touhou game and all.
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Post by: K.B. on January 02, 2012, 09:27:51 AM
PoFV's.
Perfect blend of hopefulness and wistfulness.
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Post by: Starxsword on January 02, 2012, 09:28:31 AM
I have not heard that many ending themes, but Darkening Dusk the best one I have heard.
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Post by: Piranha on January 02, 2012, 10:11:39 AM
UFO's
MoF's and EoSD's are also quite good.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on January 02, 2012, 10:17:08 AM
Youkai Temple from UFO
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Post by: VIZINGORD on January 02, 2012, 07:02:30 PM
What is your favorite unused theme? Dreamy Pilot. Phantasmagoria in second place.
What is your favorite ending theme? The Earth Spirits' Homecoming.
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Post by: Garlyle on January 03, 2012, 11:46:16 AM
I think I'm gonna go with Shrine at the Foot of the Mountain
I don't really care too much for any of them though.
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on January 04, 2012, 07:06:59 PM
Favourite ending theme is The Earth Spirits' Homecoming, only because it's the only one I ever hear on a regular basis.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on January 04, 2012, 08:39:20 PM
For me, there is a lot of ending themes I enjoy, even if it took me ages to warm up to them. It's difficult to choose one above all of them, but I will have to go with Shrine at the Foot of the Mountain, MoF's ending theme. While there are many I love, this is the only one that makes me forget I'm supposed to be listening to all of them one by one, and I end up listening to the whole ten minute extension.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 06, 2012, 03:21:40 AM
Ayayayaya, sorry, sorry. I'm starting to run low on questions here, plus various issues have been distracting me. Hmm...~!
What is your favorite Shoot the Bullet scene?
Especially towards the late game, there were a lot of scenes that were...memorable. Let's keep it at that. ^_^ Whether or not they were that memorable, which is your favorite of them all?
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Phlegeth on January 06, 2012, 03:45:53 AM
5-1, just because to me it looked like she was kicking Jelly Beans at me.
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Post by: Zil on January 06, 2012, 10:11:04 AM
Either Pandemonium or Deep Fog Labyrinth.
That Crystal Judgment thing was cool but too easy.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: 8lue Wizard on January 06, 2012, 11:41:34 AM
The one where I ragequit. OH WAIT THAT'S ALL OF THEM.
I prefer to forget that StB exists, tyvm.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: ふねん1 on January 06, 2012, 01:50:38 PM
Probably Pandemonium. The only time a card from either of the photography games has convinced me to go back and capture it again after completing it the first time.
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Post by: Zengeku on January 06, 2012, 02:39:56 PM
For me, my favorite one is not really the most memorable ones.
The most memorable ones for me is Mokou's turtles because it embodies just what is wrong with Aya's movement speed. Same thing with that Ceiling of whatever. However the later isn't terribly hard for me nowadays. Captured it pretty effortlessly last time i tried it. There is also that Ten Kings card 10-4, i think, of Shikieiki. I remember I was stuck there forever failing at something that wasn't even that bad.
So yeah, the cards that annoyed me the most are also the cards I find most memorable. The most awesome card in it is probably 5-5, mainly because of the Ultra version. Komachi also has this very cool one with a lot of bullets, some of them being aimed. It was called Old Rain-something. I don't recall its full title. Two of Rans scenes are also buckets of fun. The one where you have to race around this wall of amulets and the one where she goes Ketsui style on you.
That's the most enjoyable scenes that springs to mind right now. I'm not really able to point out a No.1 favorite as the Photography games contain many cards of great entertainment value.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Skyler on January 06, 2012, 06:43:27 PM
Oh look, a game that I've never really paid much attention to. I suppose it's actually time to go and watch a playthrough and then come back here.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on January 06, 2012, 07:59:54 PM
In terms of concept, I really liked Cleansed Crystal Judgment, because the idea of Shikieiki summoning Aya's sinful self to do battle with Aya is extremely cool. But because it was a static card, it was also boring after a while. Pandemonium is by far the most memorable card in StB for me.
... and so is Seamless Ceiling.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: I have no name on January 06, 2012, 08:06:49 PM
What is this 'Shoot the Bullet' of which you speak? Considering I suck at t and don't find it fun, I'm forced to pick from, oh, the first 3 stages. Going to have to go with Minus K, for lack of a possible pool of choices.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Piranha on January 06, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
I'm one card away from unlocking Level 4, so...no clear favorites yet. Although I like Keines cards. :3
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: VIZINGORD on January 06, 2012, 09:38:48 PM
10-8 Judgement "Cleansed Crystal Judgement -Aya Shameimaru-" 7-2 Devil Sign "World in Nightmare" and the rest of Shiki's cards are the other ones that i enjoyed the most.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on January 07, 2012, 03:34:07 PM
4-8 Owing Sign "Vulnerary of Oonamuchi-sama"
Yeah, I haven't got really far in the game.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: AJS on January 09, 2012, 02:35:37 AM
6-4. Dodging ultra-fast Youmu was fun, but what really interested me when I first faced this card was when I realized that I had to use Aya's camera's ability to slow things down to capture Youmu before she zipped away.
The runner-up for me is EX-4. It's a pretty straight-forward pattern, but very mesmerizing. Once I got the hang of it, I just had to "go with the flow" of the waves/particles, and it became very fun.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 09, 2012, 03:50:05 AM
I'll, uh, save my answer for after the NEXT one!
What is your favorite Double Spoiler scene?
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zil on January 09, 2012, 04:16:05 AM
Well I did just pacify one of them becuase of how fun it was. I guess SP-9, Illusionary Dominance. Maybe there's a cooler one, but none spring to mind.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: I have no name on January 09, 2012, 04:29:42 AM
SP-9 is my favorite. Other really fun ones include 10-7 (the Tenshi Spark) and 9-8 (Rose Hell).
(dis)honorable mention goes to 9-7 for being a piece of utter crap.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Phlegeth on January 09, 2012, 04:48:03 AM
The extra stage; all of it. But if I had to pick one it would be Exorcism of the Newspaper Subscription Solicitors with Blazing Star in a very close second.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Formless God on January 09, 2012, 05:12:22 AM
Seamless Ceiling.
:dealwithit:
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on January 09, 2012, 12:00:15 PM
Double Spoiler has far too many good scenes to answer this properly. I have done a bit of score play with it which has forced me to play the cards the way they were meant to be played which made quite a lot of them really fun. There are a bunch that I remember, not all of them cards I've scored against but fun nonetheless.
10-4. Its pretty easy with Aya but hard as Hatate because of her lousy camera. Still, its a really fun one because of how you are always on the move, never standing still in one spot or micrododging so yeah. I like it. That Suwako one with the rings. Really cool attack and a lot better than the one from MoF's extra stage that sucked. Pretty much all the Nue ones. The only one I didn't like was the one with the Shadow because the camera refused to acknowledge its true priorities. The Yuugi one with the fast fat banana lasers. It was a challenging process to play this for score but it was really rewarding when I pulled it off.
However, I cannot point out just one favorite. That is simply not going to happen. Too many good cards here.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on January 09, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
I enjoy playing Double Spoiler much more than StB.
My favorite scenes: 11-4 Hime River "Princess Jade Green"; 12-3 "Yuugyou Hijiri"; 12-8 "Danmaku X from a Wandering Star".
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Post by: theshirn on January 09, 2012, 02:30:19 PM
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: 8lue Wizard on January 09, 2012, 05:25:08 PM
I'm a little more mellow in my hatred for DS than StB, but not much. I actually did make it to the Extra Stage before ragequitting for good. And I have to say, some of the later cards were actually not entirely bullshit pretty fun. Looking over the list on the wiki, I'mma have to go with 12-1.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: AJS on January 09, 2012, 06:48:00 PM
Oy, now here's a tough one...I like a lot of the DS scenes...hrrmmmm.....
I'll go with EX-9. SO PRETTY...and it's fun to just graze all those bullets as you weave back and forth, at least until the last wave.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: VIZINGORD on January 10, 2012, 12:25:11 AM
I recently unlocked level 8, so maybe 7-5 and 8-1. From the others that i saw, i liked 10-4 and SP-9.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: KrackoCloud on January 10, 2012, 01:35:52 AM
Maybe 4-1 or 7-5...
I'm going to say 9-3. It was creative fun.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on January 10, 2012, 03:53:52 AM
Favorite Double Spoiler scene: No idea, not motivated enough to play this over StB.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Esper on January 14, 2012, 08:02:59 PM
The game pisses me off too much for me to like it more than a tiny bit. Though I suppose my favorite is Suika's last card, the one where she grows in size and follows you, then springs up to a corner of the screen.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: ふねん1 on January 15, 2012, 01:51:47 AM
Donut, I can provide a question if you don't mind me filling in. While going through MoF again today, something triggered an old memory of a certain topic on here. I'll expand its question a little to form this:
From a purely visual standpoint, what is your favorite attack?
Because not every attack is a Spellcard (like that old topic asked for). So yeah, what attack from anywhere in Touhou do you think looks the best? My answer would be MoF midboss-Sanae's nonspell. I've always loved the way the big stars unfolded, creating that cool symmetric pattern.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zil on January 15, 2012, 02:17:52 AM
I was wondering what happened to this thread. I am tempted to say Devil's Recitation, but I'll go with Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana. I can't really remember them all at once of course, but at the moment these are what come to mind. For some reason I also started wondering what Hell's Tokamak would be like with four suns, one on each border.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Esper on January 15, 2012, 04:58:43 AM
Please note, I have a lot of ties for this question because I fucking love the attacks in these games but
1. Selaginella 9 (EOSD Stage 3 Hard/Lunatic Midboss Card 1) especially, but most of Hong Meiling's (EOSD Stage 3 Boss) spells. They're just so lovely~ :D They're colorful and appealing to the eyes.
2. Pretty much every Final Attack in the series (And some Extra Finals), but from what I've seen, here are my favorites, the better ones at the top of the list.
Danmaku Bounded Field
Mountain of Faith
<Insert 10(0 < x < 10) here> Percent Reflowering
Red Magic/Scarlet Gensokyo
Hourai Elixir
Border of Life and Death
Flying Fantastica
Mishaguji-Sama
Hourai Doll
Hell's Artificial Sun
Newborn Divine Spirit
3. Suwako's First card, Two Bows, Two Claps, One Bow. Honestly, this is the only card where it looks awesome to have everything and the kitchen sink thrown at you.
I'll say more if I feel like it.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Formless God on January 15, 2012, 05:39:50 AM
Bad Omen. Honorable mentions to Froggy Elements and Miko's disco spin.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: KrackoCloud on January 15, 2012, 06:12:53 AM
Ooh. This is certainly a tough one.
I'm going to go with Jeweled Pagoda "Greatest Treasure". It's simple but mesmerizing.
Sanae's nonspells, Froggy Braves the Elements, Mishaguji-Sama, and Pandemonium are pretty great too.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: I have no name on January 15, 2012, 09:08:18 AM
Honest Man's Death.
When there's nothing and then PCHOOOOO of high speed bullets it looks really imposing...even though it's trivial.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Starxsword on January 15, 2012, 09:35:05 AM
If it is just pure visuals, it would probably have to be Magicannon "Final Spark" from Scarlet Weather Rhapsody. Magicannon "Final Spark" 0:56 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33wadpS8pGQ)
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Post by: Piranha on January 15, 2012, 11:30:34 AM
Pretty much all of Yuugis attacks, for some reason I can't explain, especially Knockout in Three Steps. Oh, and Devil's Recitation as well as Yuyukos cards(all of them) look breathtakingly awesome too.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: hourai on January 15, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
Froggy Braves the Elements and Spare Umbrella Express Night Carnival.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on January 15, 2012, 12:39:37 PM
My top 5:
1) Flying Bowl "Legendary Flying Saucer" ; 2) Virtue of Wind God; 3) Native God "Seven Stones and Seven Trees"; 3) Everlasting Phoenix Tail; 4) Great Magic "Devil's Recitation"; 5) Light Sign "Guse Flash".
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Post by: VIZINGORD on January 15, 2012, 02:01:31 PM
1- Great Magic "Devil's Recitation" 2- Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana 3- Divine Treasure "Hourai Jewel -Dreamlike Paradise-" 4- The Phantom of the Grand Guignol 5- Native God "Froggy Braves the Elements"
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: 8lue Wizard on January 15, 2012, 03:16:52 PM
Donut, I can provide a question if you don't mind me filling in. While going through MoF again today, something triggered an old memory of a certain topic on here. I'll expand its question a little to form this:
Aah, thanks. I'm about out, so anyone who wants to fill in can do so. I just have one last question, and I'm saving it for the end of this iteration of the thread.
Favorite spell card? Mmm. Would it be unimaginative to say Virtue of Wind God? There are many many cards I like, many that are beautiful to look at. But none of them quite match up to the kaleidoscope of death that is Kanako's last card.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 15, 2012, 10:14:17 PM
Donut, I can provide a question if you don't mind me filling in. While going through MoF again today, something triggered an old memory of a certain topic on here. I'll expand its question a little to form this:
From a purely visual standpoint, what is your favorite attack?
Because not every attack is a Spellcard (like that old topic asked for). So yeah, what attack from anywhere in Touhou do you think looks the best? My answer would be MoF midboss-Sanae's nonspell. I've always loved the way the big stars unfolded, creating that cool symmetric pattern.
from Touhou games: - MoF/VoWG (for the pattern form, colors and the creativeness). I can't think of attacks that are visually impressive alone, but there are quite a lot of places where it's some combination of stage setting (MS stage 2 and 5, LLS stage 6, PCB stage 4, MoF stage 6), BGM (IN's Keine and stages 6A/6B/Extra, UFO stage 6, DS scenes starting from where Ichirin appears, GFW stage 2, final stage and bosses), the dodging of said patterns (patterns don't need to be visually elaborate or tight to be fun, imho)
from fangames: - Reimu's bow-and-arrow scs (there's two iirc) in Phantasm Romance 2.5 Plus - I remember some other stuff from danmakufu (Magical Singular Day, Phantasmagoria Trues, and other scripts on nico), but not exactly what was it..
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on January 18, 2012, 03:35:41 AM
From a purely visual standpoint, what is your favorite attack: Purely visual means it falls to Shoot the Bullet Ex-6, Mokou's Five-Colored Turtles. My least favourite card in the whole series, but damn is it pretty. Pandemonium is a very close second.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Athrel on January 21, 2012, 10:03:17 PM
for me it would probably be Satori's redone version of philosophers stone because of how the elements are changed to look like the actual five elements would.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on January 25, 2012, 04:42:23 PM
What, Donut forgot about keeping this up? Okay, fine, I can ask questions too.
What is your favorite shot type in the Windows games? That's just so that everyone doesn't say "Mima in Mystic Square".
In terms of flashy and pretty danmaku, I like Yuka's shot in PoFV and Marisa/Patchouli's shot in SA. The latter especially so, because damn it is fun to switch around shot types and colours, I don't even care if it's weak and I can't beat the game with it. In terms of power and effectiveness, SanaeB in UFO because yesssssss.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on January 25, 2012, 04:52:55 PM
SanaeB in UFO.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: BT on January 25, 2012, 04:59:31 PM
Marisa A in EoSD/PCB (probably the latter, if only because the first power stage is stronger in PCB than in EoSD).
No BS.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 25, 2012, 05:01:05 PM
It's hard to keep this up every day after a while, you know. :( Feel free to take over. I just have one last question for when it looks like this is at its end.
As for the question, Marisa A in EoSD. People often say she's too fast and too narrow-ranged to be usable, but I think she is the perfect shot type for me. ^^ Even better, unlike future Marisas, her hitbox is the same size as Reimu's.
Also I would have said Yuka in MS but you forbade PC-98. :(((((((((
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Post by: Desu_Cake on January 25, 2012, 05:06:19 PM
In terms of prettiness: Yuuka in PoFV In terms of gameplay: SakuyaB in PCB.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: ARF on January 25, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
ReimuC in SA! :V
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Post by: Zengeku on January 25, 2012, 05:16:45 PM
Touhou ain't exactly flooding with cool shot types. They are mostly pretty generic and usually pretty bad whenever ZUN tries to do something new. ZUN, i desire for you to make a shottype that's both competent and badass. So... to answer this question I'll have to go by performance and mention the Border Team. Its by far the most useful shot type in the series as it has a lock-on shot that's pretty powerful and very easy to use as well as a competent homing shot that makes sure to destroy any kind of popcorn enemy you hit with it.
Hmm... been brainstorming a bit about it and I haven't been able to think up any shottype in Touhou that combines efficient spreadshot with efficient focus shot. The best bet is Scarlet Team and that isn't good enough. Think Reimu going berserk with powerful screen-covering spread shots and an even more powerful Hakurei Laser
... That would be broken as fuck in a Touhou game I know but I'd still love to see her do that once just to cement the fact that Reimu always gets the most useful shots.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Azinth on January 25, 2012, 06:37:34 PM
Solo Youmu/Netherworld Team. One of my favorite STG shottypes ever pretty much. They're a big reason that IN is one of my favorite in the series.
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Post by: Formless God on January 25, 2012, 08:37:29 PM
UFO Reimu A. Consistency.
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Post by: I have no name on January 25, 2012, 10:08:29 PM
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Post by: Phlegeth on January 25, 2012, 10:18:31 PM
Marisa A in UFO. Being able to hit the top of the screen from the bottom is always nice.
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Post by: Skyler on January 25, 2012, 10:48:15 PM
Netherworld Team and Reimu B in EoSD. The latter maybe not as much because of Patchouli, but the Netherworld Team are great. Yuyuko's spread shot pretty much trivialises most stages and Youmu's power is really good for when you want to unfocus for time points unlike Reimu.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zil on January 25, 2012, 10:48:56 PM
The coolest one for me is MarisaA in SA. You've got rainbow lasers and I love how the dolls dance around when you focus/unfocus.
Gameplay-wise I think I'll say ReimuA in SA. Good old needle shot, effective bomb, and the teleport ability is cool.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: ふねん1 on January 25, 2012, 11:12:09 PM
ReimuA in SA. Really efficient shottype overall with a bomb that hungers for graaaaaaaze. :V
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Post by: VIZINGORD on January 25, 2012, 11:16:37 PM
In terms of effectiveness: Sanae B for stages and Reimu B from EoSD, PCB and MoF (Reimu A in UFO) for bosses. In terms of prettiness Marisa A and Marisa B in SA.
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Post by: MMX on January 26, 2012, 02:52:31 AM
Most effective (from what i've played): Marisa in TD Most fun: Reimu C in SA :V
Also have to mention Marisa C from Marine Benefit. Very fun shottype, but not as ridiculous as some others.
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Post by: K.B. on January 26, 2012, 02:55:52 AM
By "shot type" I assume that we are to incorporate bomb type in our evaluation.
Understanding that bombing as a convention is utter shit and that dodging (and shooting) should be exclusively what shmupping is about, the best shot type is unquestionably...
...because this enables you preemptively employ resources and consequently focus entirely on dodging (and shooting).
Edit: I meant Mari-C. I have no idea how I keep confusing these two - and it's only these two shot-types in this one game - but I seriously need to learn the difference between red and blue. Or something.
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Post by: ふねん1 on January 26, 2012, 04:00:03 AM
By "shot type" I assume that we are to incorporate bomb type in our evaluation.
Understanding that bombing as a convention is utter shit and that dodging (and shooting) should be exclusively what shmupping is about, the best shot type is unquestionably......because this enables you preemptively employ resources and consequently focus entirely on dodging (and shooting).
But ReimuC is so weak outside of her bomb...
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Post by: Starxsword on January 26, 2012, 06:45:49 AM
My favorite shot type is probably the one in Ten Desires. Youmu's shot type is just fun to use, though I am not too sure about its effectiveness...
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Post by: MMX on January 26, 2012, 05:16:13 PM
My favorite shot type is probably the one in Ten Desires. Youmu's shot type is just fun to use, though I am not too sure about its effectiveness...
It's super effective once you get used to it. Most top score records were done with Youmu. I cant play with such a shottype at all, so my favourite player in TD is Marisa, wich is a bit less powerfull, but more familiar.
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Post by: Piranha on January 26, 2012, 08:19:23 PM
MarisaA and B in SA look pretty, but ReimuA(SA) is the most effective shottype for me. Persuasion Needle ftw :V
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Post by: K.B. on January 26, 2012, 10:01:54 PM
Edit: also, I am an idiot. See edit in previous post.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: pineyappled on January 27, 2012, 03:18:59 AM
TD Youmu is fun, but timing fucks me up every time. Plus I forget how to use it if I don't touch it for a few months... Needle Reimu is my favorite overall.
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Post by: ARF on January 27, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
But ReimuC can hit the entire screen at once! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD_8gnO3CXI) :V
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on January 29, 2012, 09:43:25 AM
Still not sure of a good interval in between questions.
What's your favourite boss portrait in Touhou? Portrait, not sprite, mind you. And yes, fighting games count. I imagine that character design will have a lot to do with people's choices.
Mine is definitely Byakuren. The glowing scroll, the namusanbou, I love it.
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Post by: Starxsword on January 29, 2012, 10:21:19 AM
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on January 29, 2012, 11:54:46 AM
Nazrin, S5Midboss edition. Dat pagoda. Close behind is Alphes's rendition of Utsuho. The glowing hair is an awesome effect. I shudder to imagine what would happen if Okuu got her hands on the Pagoda. I'd probably just die from sheer awesomeness overload. Look, I'm getting seizures just imaginjklyfghjkjn jhzAU4EVRHJK
OK, better now. Tied for a distant 3rd is Shou (pagoda again) and Mokou (just 'cuz).
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on January 29, 2012, 12:12:34 PM
Favorite ZUNarts: Byakuren, Orin and Suwako.
Favorite Alphes artworks: Marisa, Sanae, Iku, Komachi, Suwako and Yukari.
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Post by: GuppyForce on January 29, 2012, 12:40:16 PM
Off the top of my head, Utsuho for ZUN and Tenshi for SWR
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Post by: MMX on January 29, 2012, 02:12:19 PM
Marisa, Orin and Koishi (well almost all portraits from SA). Kyouko and Seiga from TD
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Post by: ふねん1 on January 29, 2012, 06:31:52 PM
I'd have to say Alphes' Utsuho. ZUN's version is pretty good too, but let's face it, Alphes is a better artist overall. :V
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Post by: Skyler on January 29, 2012, 06:33:04 PM
Utsuho and Yukari. Yukari was probably ZUN's best drawing in PCB in my opinion, also I prefer that outfit to her IN and onwards outfit.
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Post by: Phlegeth on January 29, 2012, 06:51:16 PM
Kogasa in UFO for ZUN
Alice in IMMP and Marisa in general for Alphes
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Post by: Raikaria on January 29, 2012, 06:53:05 PM
I actually like Yoshika's ZUNART.
I also like Shikieiki's PoFV art.
Not sure WHY for either of them.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on January 29, 2012, 07:06:14 PM
For Alphes, I really don't know. They are all really detailed and well done but Utsuho and Sanae stand out for me. I'm not able to narrow down a straight winner though so they'll have to tie... oh wait I'll give it to Utsuho since I haven't yet forgotten that MoF debacle. :V
And for Alphes: Remi (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8338/remilia.png).
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on February 01, 2012, 09:21:28 PM
What's your favourite bullet type in Touhou? Might have to accompany your description with screenshots if you don't know the colloquial names of some bullets, like the WHITE05 bullet (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,3665.0.html). No lasers allowed, mind you, no matter what Marisa says in Grimoire of Marisa. PC-98 bullets are fair game.
Mine is kunai/dagger bullets, because I feel damn cool when I graze them.
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Post by: MMX on February 01, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
Bubble bullets are fun to dodge cause of their small hitboxes. It's hilarious to go through "solid lookng" swarm of them without being hit :)
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Post by: K.B. on February 01, 2012, 10:07:14 PM
Actual answer: Miko's glowy bullets. You know, the ones used is Guze Flash?
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Post by: Zil on February 01, 2012, 11:03:27 PM
There are people who like dagger bullets? I swear to god those things have some kind of telekinetic death-field around them.
My personal favorite: Kunai (Yoshika's bread and butter bullet). They're basically WHITE05 but look a little cooler, and you can tell where they are going from their orientation. WHITE05 itself is pretty damn good too though, seeing as the rule in Touhou is the bigger the bullet, the more bullshit the actual hitbox is.
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Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on February 01, 2012, 11:49:43 PM
I'm going to have to say Utsuho's giant sun bullets, if only for the novelty and for the fact it's something we've only seen once in the series so far.
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Post by: KrackoCloud on February 02, 2012, 07:12:10 AM
Probably the glowing, blending bullets. You know, the ones that were absolutely everywhere in UFO?
Props also to Mamizou's dog bullet. Cutest bullet period.
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Post by: Formless God on February 02, 2012, 08:10:36 AM
BLEND_ADD_RGB UFO fireballs. Props to Miko's balls, I like glowy bullets.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on February 02, 2012, 08:37:44 AM
Amulets obviously.
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on February 02, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
Hmm... I'mma hafta go with rice bullets on this one. Simple, bright, and easy to read, but with a bit more character than 05's. They're one of the more common bullet types in the series, but I never hear anybody talking about them. They need more love.
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Post by: Zengeku on February 02, 2012, 08:39:14 PM
I'll love them. It was the first bullet I thought of at first as my pick for this question but then I remember that amulets are usually an integral part of a lot of my favorite cards.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on February 02, 2012, 08:41:15 PM
I'll have to go with amulet/ofuda bullets. No matter what the game, these have always been consistent and fair bullets with nicely sized hitboxes. So many other bullets used to be nice, but then broke my fragile heart when they changed radically between IN and MoF. ;-;
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Post by: Skyler on February 02, 2012, 10:15:28 PM
Utsuho's sun bullets or the IN fire bullets (used in Phoenix Tail and Salamander Shield, probably others too). I just like the way they glow and the suns look impressive.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on February 02, 2012, 10:41:57 PM
I'll have to go with amulet/ofuda bullets. No matter what the game, these have always been consistent and fair bullets with nicely sized hitboxes. So many other bullets used to be nice, but then broke my fragile heart when they changed radically between IN and MoF. ;-;
???
What? The only thing I've noticed to be different are lasers. Which bullets are you thinking about?
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zil on February 02, 2012, 11:46:30 PM
I think those large bean shaped bullets got totally screwed up, like in EX-Kogasa's first spell.
Also, I forgot all about amulets. Those are a very cool bullet type that seems to get used in lots of cool spells.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: LeviLamprey on February 03, 2012, 10:59:03 AM
Ugh... This is a tough one... I THINK I'll go with equal parts Miko's suns, amulets and those irksome butterflies. Miko's suns are beautiful~ Amulets are really creative and simple to dodge~ Butterflies tell me the spell is evil, but so purty~~~~~
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Post by: ふねん1 on February 03, 2012, 02:18:30 PM
I'd say amulets as well. Honorable mention to Utsuho's FACE-MELTING-SUNMAKU just because.
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Post by: VIZINGORD on February 03, 2012, 02:45:39 PM
Amulets here too. But i also really like the big bubble ones.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Jq1790 on February 03, 2012, 04:45:28 PM
Glowy blended bullets (Especially when Kogasa uses them along with rice in her TD S3 Midboss appearance since I like the rainbow effect, but also anywhere else, like with Orin's Blazing Wheel, and such.) for me. They've always seemed really neat and fancy compared to other bullet types. I also like the amulets and I'M GOING TO THROW THE SUN AT YOU bullets; they just don't compare to the simple but shiny bullet type I described before.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on February 03, 2012, 05:35:01 PM
Bubbles, Marisa's stars and Komachi's coins.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Phlegeth on February 03, 2012, 11:23:55 PM
Shiki's hotdogs
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Athrel on February 03, 2012, 11:53:17 PM
The fireball bullets such as the ones that Futo uses in her penultimate spell card.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on February 04, 2012, 10:09:25 AM
What character (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Category:Characters_not_in_a_Touhou_game) from the printed works (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Official_Literature) would you most like to see in a Touhou game as a boss character? Ones who haven't already appeared in a Touhou game, mind you. This is strictly for newcomers to the danmaku scene.
In the past, I would have said Watatsuki no Yorihime (specifically as a dual Extra stage boss with Toyohime), but now I would looooooooooove to see Ibara Kasen in a Touhou game. And don't bring up the fact that she was supposed to be in Ten Desires. I have enough heartache over that decision as it is.
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Post by: Starxsword on February 04, 2012, 10:28:14 AM
For the main type Touhous, I think there are 4 choices, Kasen, Yorihime, Toyohime, and Reisen II. I would say Kasen is probably my top choice. But I feel like she should be a fighting game boss.
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Post by: Piranha on February 04, 2012, 10:47:38 AM
Kasen, no question. She's very interesting and I would LOVE to see her in the next game.
As for the last question, definitely amulets, they're fun to dodge.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on February 04, 2012, 01:50:33 PM
Kasen.
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Post by: Zil on February 04, 2012, 08:38:49 PM
I hardly know any of them, so I'll just say Rinnosuke. He could use artifacts or something like Shou.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on February 04, 2012, 10:10:22 PM
Ever since Fairy Wars, there's not really many choices, but...yeah, Kasen's the most suitable to appearing in the games.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on February 04, 2012, 11:59:44 PM
Kasen would have fit in perfectly with the appearance of spirits in 10D and the fact she didn't show up in even the most minor of roles is something of a disappointment.
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Post by: Phlegeth on February 05, 2012, 04:47:45 AM
The Watatsuki's And all these replies reminded me that I need to read past the first chapter of Kasen's manga.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Esper on February 05, 2012, 05:20:55 AM
To the bullets question: The one bullet type I ABSOLUTELY FUCKING ADORE YEAH FUCK YEAH PROBATED ORGASM
is the needle bullet. Actually, it ties between needles and stars. If you don't know what the needle bullets are, they're the ones that look like long rhombuses but tiny. Basically, what Minoriko Aki aims at you in weird ways.
To the Printed Character in Touhou question: Rinnosuke Morichika. We need a manly man in these girly games.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: LeviLamprey on February 05, 2012, 06:55:00 AM
Aaaargh, this is a hard one D: I want to see all the characters appear, but I must admit Kasen is the most suitable. Akyu would be pretty interesting to see rendered, too. On an unrelated note, should they bring back any PC98s not named Mima or Shinki, they should totally be Chiyuri and Yumemi.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Skyler on February 05, 2012, 10:06:59 PM
Kasen. While I don't know as much about her as I probably should, she seems like the best choice out of all the options. I'd quite like to see Reisen II as well, possibly in a game with the Watasuki sisters.
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Post by: Star King on February 06, 2012, 04:47:13 AM
Another Kasen here. I hate to be that guy, but having males appear in Touhou games will make me a little sad :(
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on February 06, 2012, 06:39:33 PM
Rinnosuke. With the pagoda. Somehow. :V Don't ask me how it would work. But the pagoda deserves moar screentime.
Also, I guess Kasen would work, too....
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on February 07, 2012, 09:44:53 AM
What is your favourite scoring gimmick system out of all the games? Relatively straightforward question, I think; PCB had the cherry gauge, IN had the human/youkai meter going on, 10D has the spirit collection mechanic and so forth.
I think mine is PCB's. The cherry border was super useful for people who suck too much to actually dodge shit (like me!) and it also gave nice points whenever I didn't break it.
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Post by: Zengeku on February 07, 2012, 10:09:49 AM
Score mechanics in these games generally have a hard time engaging me in them since taking the time to learn the scoring in any shooter is hard on me. My favorite one is Mountain of Faith since that is the one that requires the least amount of memorization and practice. Its mainly about raising the item value, not dying and capturing spellcards. There are of course small things you can do to further boost your score but its still a simple system which is good for Touhou.
Second place would go to IN or SA. These are mainly a question of the score plays being impressive. These games will have players doing absolutely looney stunts in the pursuit of score which makes for interesting watches. IN even allows a survival player to get like 30-35 oku just by capturing cards and not dying. That stuff appeals to me more than the sort of game where survival play gives you maybe 10 while great scoring is 30-40 (SA). I appreciate the SA vids though because of all the effort that must've been put into learning those involved scoring strats.
Oh boy did i just contradict myself there. Let's just sum things up before I cause a paradox. I like the MoF one best because its rewarding and actually something I can play without losing the interest before I even get to learning Stage 2. IN and SA i consider to be good systems spawning crazy cool replays but they are too time consuming for me to learn.
UFO is being omitted because Naut is hoarding all the liking and PCB because blasdsoaguhwglsdlkgboring...
... :V
Okay so I admit that that the cherry borders appealed to me because it means the opportunity to dodge freely without having to fear dying. It just needs to implemented into a difficult game for it to be truly appreciated.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: LeviLamprey on February 07, 2012, 01:22:11 PM
Uhhhhhhhhhhhmmmm... This one is hard to answer... UFO's scoring is fun, but too drastic: scoring between survival and a blue ufo run is OVER 9000 (000000000000000) points in difference. PCB's is nice, but the game can get a little dull sometimes :x I think IN's is my favourite, tied with the simplicity of MoF Zengeku described~
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Post by: I have no name on February 07, 2012, 01:26:25 PM
MoF. Only game I ever bothered to do any somewhat serious scoring in.
I forsee a troll saying Ten Desires.
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Post by: ふねん1 on February 07, 2012, 01:56:39 PM
I believe this question was already used, but I'll answer anyway. I like SA's the most since the system turns out to be surprisingly deep. Like Zengeku said above, you have to do some really unconventional maneuvers to get anywhere close to a good score. I kinda liken it to SSBM in terms of learning technical skill - it takes a while to get good, but you can really see yourself getting better as you continue to practice. I'll also add that I like the Communication Gauge because it works so well with normal play, letting you focus more on the patterns instead of constantly heading up to the PoC.
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Post by: Star King on February 07, 2012, 02:24:17 PM
EoSD. As in I don't like scoring gimmicks /troll :V
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Post by: ARF on February 07, 2012, 02:31:01 PM
UFO is the best.
If I could choose the scoring system for the next game I'd want a mix of many of the previous games though.
Item value multiplier like in SA minus the autocollect. Borders like in PCB minus autocollect and grazing with them now increases the UFO multipliers. Spirits and trance like in TD except the trance is more like an extra border on demand, and picking up items with it active further multiplies the value of items (including the UFO loot). Faith/Base item value increases the score bonus from spell cards, it is also lost if you miss or bomb. Base item value is also increased by shooting unfocused/grazing with the human/youkai gauge maxed like in IN. Collecting extra tokens while UFO's are summoned increases the trance-border multiplier by 0.05. Furthermore, capturing spell cards increases this multiplier by 0.1-0.7 depending on the stage number.
That would be awesome BV
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on February 07, 2012, 04:13:37 PM
UFO is being omitted because Naut is hoarding all the liking
Well that's because it's just far and away the best.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MMX on February 07, 2012, 05:22:44 PM
I never bothered of any serious scoring runs in any game, but from what i've played i found TD system pretty fun and easy. Though real scoring runs in it look retarded :V Also i can surely say wich type of scoring system i dont like - the one where point item value may decrease, especially like in MoF by dying.
And from scoring runs i've watched i found EoSD most impressive, cause you need to graze hard and do a lot of crazy tricks to earn every little increase of score. And owerall EoSD scoring run always looks nice.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on February 07, 2012, 07:37:34 PM
I'm not really into scoring that much, but i like SA's system, mainly because I love grazing.
Heck, I even graze in MoF, even though it doesn't do anything in that game :V
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Post by: Star King on February 07, 2012, 07:46:05 PM
You wanna head down to the corner and drop a few bombs then? ;)
Okay, the one thing I would change is that graze increases the value of point items, rather than star items - like in the later games. Then it would be perfect :D
Besides, I was more referring to the simple mechanics - not the gimmicky strategies that may arise from them.
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Post by: Zil on February 07, 2012, 08:22:50 PM
Yes, I think Donut asked this question, but my answer has chenged since then so I'm glad I get to answer again.
Favorite scoring system - Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream.
It's all about chaining the enemies as quickly as you can while reflecting bullets back and forth turning the entire screen into a shit-storm of lightning fast danmaku. Most fun, fast paced game to score out of all of them. :D
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Post by: Skyler on February 07, 2012, 08:26:24 PM
I've only played 3 games (6-8) so I'll go with PCB. Even though I haven't figured out how to time my borders right, they're still a nice thing to have when you're faced with stuff you can't dodge.
IN's system is a little annoying but collecting the time points is very satisfying to me for some reason. SA's system looks pretty cool too, another reason why I'm looking forward to that game so much.
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Post by: K.B. on February 07, 2012, 10:04:37 PM
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: VIZINGORD on February 08, 2012, 01:39:26 AM
If it wasn't for stage 5, it would had been UFO's. I don't even have problems with stage 4 and 6, but stage 5 ALWAYS kills my runs. :( My favourite is PCB's system.
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Post by: 3266442 on February 08, 2012, 05:20:29 AM
SA, because grazing is fun.
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Post by: Zengeku on February 08, 2012, 08:45:54 AM
Favorite scoring system - Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream.
It's all about chaining the enemies as quickly as you can while reflecting bullets back and forth turning the entire screen into a shit-storm of lightning fast danmaku. Most fun, fast paced game to score out of all of them. :D
Agreed. The two Phantasmagorias are the only games I actually play for score.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on February 08, 2012, 06:53:45 PM
Oh man I can't believe I forgot about StB's. No troll: it is definitely my favourite scoring system, mostly because it is so straightforward for me. The flashiest photos get the best scores, and extra if you get a shutter chance!
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Post by: nintendonut888 on February 08, 2012, 07:10:46 PM
Ooh, yes. I wasn't going to answer, but DS is definitely my favorite.
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Post by: Phlegeth on February 08, 2012, 07:38:06 PM
I didn't want to say it either, but since other people went ahead. StB and DS for me too. When you weave your way through the bullets and get up in the boss' face and realize you only have 98% charge and go "OHSHIOHSHIOHSHIOHSHI" and pound the Z key until it takes you score in the six digits. So worth it.
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Post by: Esper on February 08, 2012, 09:01:01 PM
Personally I don't think it's that bad. But if you want my absolute favorite, it'd have to go to SA and IN. I like SA because it's based fully on grazing and this makes me a graze whore, and IN because it challenges you to stay in one form for portions of a stage.
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on February 08, 2012, 09:44:03 PM
StB/DS... no. Just no.
The Last Spell system in IN is really nice; I feel really great even seeing that Last Spell, since I feel like I earned it; if I cap it, all the better. However, I can't vote IN in good conscience since goddammit, I will focus or unfocus wherever the hell I feel like it, and no scoring incentive can change that. Implementing the youkai/human gauge as a damage bonus or something would have been better, but still a little forced.
SA is out since it promotes bombing and suiciding for graze. (Blech.)
MoF is fairly solid, but it doesn't punish bombing enough, and dying, too harshly. Also, PoCing at the wrong times can really put a dent your Faith meter, which just feels... wrong.
PCB, UFO, and TD are my finalists, because they balance survival vs. scoring well. This inherently rewards good play, since the less you have to worry about survival, the more you can pursue score simply by virute of not needing the extra resources that would otherwise require you to sacrifice scoring potential to get. Borders can be used as a free bomb, or to increase your score multiplier, but not both. Unfortunately, timing your borders involves metering your focus status and drop collection, both things I've already expressed concerns over.
UFO, you can get hellabuncha resources by building red and green UFOs, but serious score runs demand rainbow and blue UFOs instead. However, lack of ability to summon UFOs during a boss kinda takes some of the focus away from the main event, so to speak, and I'd like to see a bit more reward for not screwing up spellcards (something that IN did very well).
TD... is amazing in nearly every aspect. You have to choose between using your trances to multiply your resource intake, or during gluts of white spirits for massive multipliers. Simply gathering enough spirits for a trance to begin with encourages agressive play. Unlike UFO, the gimmick is still in play during boss fights, and capping spell cards gives you a bonus of extra spirits. Now, it's not perfect, since the "automatically use up all your trance gauge when you die" thing means one poorly timed mistake can screw you up a bunch, but all in all, it's a very impressive system, and I hope to see more like it in the future.
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Post by: I have no name on February 08, 2012, 10:06:24 PM
Ten Desires scoring=dodge a few patterns, bomb every nonspell for trance and trance everything else for score value increase.
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Post by: MMX on February 08, 2012, 10:23:06 PM
Ten Desires scoring=dodge a few patterns, bomb every nonspell for trance and trance everything else for score value increase.
Indeed. 8lue Wizard look any TD highscore run. It's completely retarded. Bomb Trance Bomb Trance Suicide Bomb Trance etc... Yeah, speaking of scoring itself TD scoring system is pretty nice and easy, but speaking of how it looks in the run - it's not that amazing.
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Post by: Formless God on February 09, 2012, 12:18:32 AM
UFO. It's just beautifully balanced. Go for Reds and Greens, easy run, no score; substitute everything for Blue, harder run, more score. And there's this nonspell grazing thing too. Scoring relies very heavily on raw skill here.
Oh, and honorable mention to TD. I don't particularly care how retarded it look in WR replays, but the spirit collecting and point blanking already make it more fun than, say
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PCB blasdsoaguhwglsdlkgboring
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Post by: K.B. on February 09, 2012, 12:53:22 AM
I thought that liking StB's scoring was so obnoxious it'd be a bannable offense. Interesting to know I'm not the only one who'll replay the same half-minute a couple hundred times in a row. It's a shame that ZUN's never heard of the rule of thirds, though.
I am having more fun now that I'm actually going for clears (to beat the game), but I imagine I'll eventually go ocd again and score on a few of the best scenes. Like 9-1.
Warmly awaiting ban.
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Post by: Esper on February 09, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
I thought that liking StB's scoring was so obnoxious it'd be a bannable offense. Interesting to know I'm not the only one who'll replay the same half-minute a couple hundred times in a row. It's a shame that ZUN's never heard of the rule of thirds, though.
I am having more fun now that I'm actually going for clears (to beat the game), but I imagine I'll eventually go ocd again and score on a few of the best scenes. Like 9-1.
Warmly awaiting ban.
Where do you live? I want to punch your lights out now.
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Post by: Zil on February 09, 2012, 03:36:02 AM
The photography games have pretty fair scoring systems in my opinion. They're much more approachable and just plain "fun." Scoring most of the main games means studying high-scoring superplays and then trying to replicate them. It's really a matter of tedious memorization, while scoring in StB and DS is like playing the game how it was meant to be played.
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Post by: Azinth on February 09, 2012, 03:49:39 AM
My favorite scoring system is probably IN's. I like its relative simplicity, and how there are a bunch of different ways to get your item value up (unfocused shooting, familiar breaking, capturing cards, graze milking etc.). UFO's also looks very interesting, milking aside, but I haven't taken the time to properly learn it yet.
That said, I've never tried to delve that deeply into any Touhou game's scoring system mostly because almost all of them involve heavy boss milking, which is a scoring mechanic that I greatly dislike in just about any form it takes. I know it's possible in most Touhou games to get a pretty good score with little to no milking, but it's still something that kind of turns me off from spending time on pursuing hi scores in these games when I could be devoting it to other STGs of equal quality that don't have this problem.
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Post by: ARF on February 09, 2012, 04:22:02 AM
Scoring most of the main games means studying high-scoring superplays and then trying to replicate them. It's really a matter of tedious memorization
Not if you are the guy that discovers all the best grazing tricks and invent the optimal routes! I have this rad way of supergrazing Utsuho's non-spell that not even the best players dare attempt. Imagine the awesome when I beat the world record using it and everyone can just stand and watch in awe because no one thought it possible before.
No, but seriously, figuring out routes and stuff that suits your level of play is fun.
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Post by: chirpy13 on February 09, 2012, 05:06:49 AM
I'll be the weirdo who likes LLS. I don't even like games that promote suiciding for bombs, but LLS just makes me so happy to do it and I don't know why. IN is another favorite since it rewards good performance and also has a bit more depth when you're ready to go beyond the typical run and milk some time. Unlike Zengy, I'm not a big fan of MoF. To me it feels more like demanding perfection than it does promoting good gameplay. Having one miss wipe out 1/3 of my faith is such a crushing blow to my morale that I can't really feel enthusiastic about scoring in it. Having to replay 15 minutes of a game over one mistake isn't really my thing.
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Post by: pineyappled on February 09, 2012, 05:44:33 AM
Mountain of Faith Ten Desires is a mixture of fun and FUCK WHERE DID THAT FAIRY COME FROM Q_Q
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Post by: MMX on February 09, 2012, 05:56:03 AM
Mountain of Faith Ten Desires is a mixture of fun and FUCK WHERE DID THAT FAIRY COME FROM Q_Q
More like DYING WITH FULL TRANCE IS AWESOME! (More awesome is only with almost full)
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on February 10, 2012, 07:57:24 AM
Out of all the Touhou games, which one has the most unfair stage and/or boss fight and why? Super subjectivity time! But try to base your picks on things like tricky bullet patterns, blending or confusing backgrounds, and messed-up hitboxes, and not on what shot/bomb type you're using. Also, be sure to mention on what difficulty.
Shou. Curvy lasers. Radiant Treasure. FFFFFFFFFF. Not sure what I hate more, this or Iku's Cloud Realm spellcard on Lunatic because owwwww please let me get up damnit Iku.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MMX on February 10, 2012, 09:02:02 AM
Yoshika fight in TD stage 3. That autohealing, and tight kunais at weird angles, and curvy lazors caused a lot of problems in my runs. It's unreasonably hard for stage 3 boss. After that stage 4 is nice and easy. I'm using Marisa on hard and lunatic.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Raikaria on February 10, 2012, 10:51:34 AM
Marisa Kirisame on Imperishable Night. [I've only played Normal of course]
She's LEAUGES harder than Reimu. Reimu can be dealt with viva memorisation of her patterns, with the exception of Fantasy Seal: Spread, which generally just requires a sidestep. Her nonspells are just laughable, especially with the Scarlet Team.
Marisa's nonspells require you to know the hitboxes of those stars like anything, and pray a wall dosen't form.
Milky Way has this nasty habit of hiding a small side-star behind a falling downwards one... sidestep the falling one... PITCHUN!
Stardust is incredibly flashy. It's not that hard... until you can't see through all the time orbs you're getting for grazing, and then, PITCHUN!
NDL is another one that requires hitbox knowledge, and precision. Just looking at it makes it look impossible to get through the stars. A little out of place and you die. Not to mention if the few stars Marisa shoots happpen to get in the way as you cross the big ones...
Master Spark is outright cheap with the screenshake messing you up, and the slalom of stars can easily make it so that you either have to try and get through unfocused [Very difficult with screenshake and different speeds of waves] to avoid the laser... or you hget Spark'ed.
And Earthlight Ray is streaming... until Marisa starts throwing the angled beams, then I generally die.
Marisa is the whole reason why I don't use the Border or Netherworld teams. I find her harder than Reisen. In fact, I find her harder than Eirin and Kaguya. And she's the Stage 4 boss.
No other boss makes me feel cheated out of my lives.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zil on February 10, 2012, 10:58:42 AM
Yumeko. You can't move fast enough unless you're Mima. She is okay if you're Mima though. Marisa in SoEW is also pure bullshit from what I can see. She may simply screw you over with no reasonable way to survive.
Both of these on Lunatic and assuming max rank.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: BT on February 10, 2012, 12:58:54 PM
Satori. Not out of outright terribleness, but out of anger.
Why do her non-spells even EXIST?
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: ふねん1 on February 10, 2012, 01:06:23 PM
Shou here as well. Her danmaku and I just don't seem to agree on a fundamental level.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on February 10, 2012, 01:23:33 PM
'This is such an awesome question', I thought to myself when I first read it. Its still awesome so I've been spending some time thinking about what my pick would be.
Stage; And if you had asked me a year ago it would probably be something UFO related but through more recent developments I've really grown to get pretty tired of SA's Stage 5. Only the stage, not the boss nor midboss for that matter.
The part of the stage that comes right after midboss Orin. The pellet hell. This section generally only has one tool to mess you up with. Bullet density. I'm probably making this out to be a bigger deal than it actually is but I find it really infuriating to die simply because you run into a star that you very well knew were there but you still rammed into because the gaps are so tight. The part following it also seems to be nothing but lazy memorization nonsense that requires you to do things just right.
I'm not saying that the stage is BS. I'm saying that I don't approve of the way the stage relies too heavily on pixel perfection and memorization with no real room for improvization. And that is unfortunately a kind of crutch that SA likes to use a bit too much rather than designing an interesting kind of challenge. Oh and its also pretty damn unfair to have anything before the midboss be a mindnumbingly boring tediumfest. :V
Boss:
Kaguya.
Seriously I hate that damn moon bitch. All her spells are seemingly designed to piss me the fuck off which is why its awesome there is something called FinalA... except you lose out on major points. Even though and yadayadayada i'm here to whine about the boss.
So, first card and all non-spells; No issue at all. Second card, sometimes giving me unreasonably little room to maneuver when it comes to dodging the stars. Apparently you need to abuse the fact that hitboxes on lasers turns on later than their sprites. Fuck. That. Noise. Third card: Lame ass streaming but nothing really soulcrushing. Fourth card: Kaguya flying into you, Kaguya caging you and butchering you with a wave of red bullets. Kaguya forcing me to dodge through something that almost looks like a wall!. Fifth card: Its fucking Hourai Jewel. I don't need to elaborate on this PoS.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: I have no name on February 10, 2012, 02:28:55 PM
Stage: I want to say PCB lunatic Stage 6 because it's random spam, but instead I'm going to go with UFO Stage 3, hard (haven't faced it on lunatic). There's SO MANY tiny gaps and not quite aimed spam that the whole stage relies on making precise movements quickly. Bomb please.
Boss: Stage 6 Sakuya, lunatic. She can throw walls at you that will very likely kill you regardless of what you do. Alternatively Remilia for walls on 3 of her spells+uber clippyness on basically everything.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Naut on February 10, 2012, 02:56:29 PM
Kogasa for most "unfair" boss (on lunatic). Compare her to Chen or Parsee... She's way out of their league. Harder than Ichirin and Murasa for sure. UFO stage 5 for most "unfair" stage, the glowy red shit at the end is really difficult for Reimu (but cake for Sanae!), and the very end orb wave is hit or miss even with the secret technique. I'll throw stage 5 Orin as most "unfair" midboss, catwalk is an ass-kicker at any skill level.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on February 10, 2012, 03:14:54 PM
My opinions, which are mostly based on rage (I play on Normal): - MoF stage 4: Midboss Momiji (Auto-bomb for me); - SA stage 4 (The spreading amulet patterns combined with the aimed round bullets after the midboss; I hate that section); - Shou (I hate the entire fight except for Absolute Justice); - The Prismriver Sisters (I hate fighting them in general).
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Piranha on February 10, 2012, 03:57:51 PM
Regarding the last question, my favorite scoring system is SA's, because of the autocollect.
- The Prismriver Sisters (I hate fighting them in general).
This, a thousand times. They just keep bullshitting me every time I face them (especially Merlin >:().
Not even Sakuya annoys me that much.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: XephyrEnigma on February 10, 2012, 04:22:50 PM
I'd say Shou in general as well. But mostly because of Most Valuable Vajra, at least on Normal. Not only do the lasers spin in place, they also move, causing an additional swinging motion, which can get pretty rough at times.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 10, 2012, 04:22:55 PM
Most unfair stage: I'd put my money on UFO stage 5. Though the first half of the stage is fine, I cannot figure out how ZUN expects you to survive the last third on lunatic. No matter what I do, what I try, I cannot consistently dodge the red spam. And the final part with the fairies chasing you and leaking bullets seems to be a rare instance of truly luck-based dodging. There's many ways to try and circumvent their pattern, and on lower difficulties they actually work. But on lunatic the bullets move so fast you pretty much have to hope the random number generator doesn't throw one too close (and if often does). Good thing you can get like seven bombs on the stage.
Most unfair boss: Eirin. Eirin Eirin Eirin EIRIN. I mostly hate her and her fight because there is absolutely nothing fun about it, but she has some truly shitty attacks that foiled nearly a hundred perfect attempts. Her third non-spell does the forbidden technique of flooding the screen with random bubble bullets. Making an attack hard by obscuring hitboxes is NOT fair ZUN. And then there's Omoikane's Brain, which depending on the RNG, may create a situation where no reasonable player could dodge it (heck, I had to use an exploit I found to make the attack at all doable on a consistent basis). And then there's Apollo 13.
...
Apparently most people don't find this attack as hard as I do. I don't know how. This has my vote for single most infuriating spell card in the series. There is exactly ONE formation where I can dodge it, and that doesn't come up often. Worst. Attack. Ever.
KIIIIIIII.
...Wait, wasn't this "Daily Touhou best topic? ???
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: ARF on February 10, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
Murasa on Lunatic because residual bullets from the second spell can carry over into the third non-spell. I saw a video of them coming up from the bottom of the screen, that seemed very unfair.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Naut on February 10, 2012, 05:27:33 PM
Murasa on Lunatic because residual bullets from the second spell can carry over into the third non-spell. I saw a video of them coming up from the bottom of the screen, that seemed very unfair.
They only do that if you are for some reason sitting above Murasa during the spell card (and you time killing her horribly). Still kinda lame that there are residual bullets though.
Most unfair stage: I'd put my money on UFO stage 5. Though the first half of the stage is fine, I cannot figure out how ZUN expects you to survive the last third on lunatic. No matter what I do, what I try, I cannot consistently dodge the red spam.
Reimu A has a really hard time with it due to poor area of effect (and Reimu B is also bad due to low dps and slow homing, but still much better). Use any other character and it's a lot more managable.
And the final part with the fairies chasing you and leaking bullets seems to be a rare instance of truly luck-based dodging. There's many ways to try and circumvent their pattern, and on lower difficulties they actually work. But on lunatic the bullets move so fast you pretty much have to hope the random number generator doesn't throw one too close (and if often does). Good thing you can get like seven bombs on the stage.
There is a secret technique, but it's very precise so you're probably better off spawning a ufo to clear it all. But you can definitely remove the luck factor (and replace it with "very very hard").
I think we're using "unfair" in place of "stuff we find difficult," which are very much not the same thing...
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Azinth on February 10, 2012, 05:30:43 PM
...Wait, wasn't this "Daily Touhou best topic? ???
We did plenty of 'least favorite' questions during the previous series of these threads didn't we? I kinda liked those, because they often sparked some passionate debate. :V
Unfair attacks: pretty much any attack in EoSD and UFO where random boss movement can make dodging way harder/easier than it should be. Either from the boss going down low on the screen and making it really dense or moving off to a part of the screen where you can't damage her and making it last longer. Really annoying, especially with forward-firing characters like needle-Reimu.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on February 10, 2012, 05:37:35 PM
I'm surprised no one has said Mima yet and I like how the Naut's mentioning nothing but UFO. Oh and...
Murasa on Lunatic because residual bullets from the second spell can carry over into the third non-spell. I saw a video of them coming up from the bottom of the screen, that seemed very unfair.
This so very much. I'd also add that her third card acts like a dick sometimes with those blue bullets that spawns when the anchors hits the bottom. I've had them materialize in the gaps of the bullets coming in from above which really sucked.
Stage: I want to say PCB lunatic Stage 6 because it's random spam, but instead I'm going to go with UFO Stage 3, hard (haven't faced it on lunatic). There's SO MANY tiny gaps and not quite aimed spam that the whole stage relies on making precise movements quickly. Bomb please.
Add to that if you don't handle it a specific way you die, and to handle the arrows on lunatic you NEED to be point blank, be at the exact right spot to spawn kill one or summon a UFO, else expend resource. In terms of pure unfairness though EoSD Stage 5 lunatic, specifically the wallfairies before Sakuya. avoidable with luck, but bad luck is trapped.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 10, 2012, 05:50:03 PM
...Wait, wasn't this "Daily Touhou best topic? ???
Yeah. And we talk about best BS we've got in touhou :V
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 10, 2012, 05:59:31 PM
I'll give you that Byakuren's first spell card is almost as bad (and is the one blemish in one of my favorite bosses). However, the fact that it's at the beginning makes it less mind-crushing. A bit.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on February 10, 2012, 06:01:33 PM
Mima's stupid, not unfair. BV She's actually the opposite of unfair in that she's a total pushover once you learn the stupid trick for each attack.
Bah, it's the same. Though, isn't Mima like choosing the order of her attacks at random so you need to guess when she'll use that star rape that you need to misdirect?
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on February 10, 2012, 06:07:16 PM
Not if you are the guy that discovers all the best grazing tricks and invent the optimal routes! I have this rad way of supergrazing Utsuho's non-spell that not even the best players dare attempt. Imagine the awesome when I beat the world record using it and everyone can just stand and watch in awe because no one thought it possible before.
No, but seriously, figuring out routes and stuff that suits your level of play is fun.
Sorry to ruin your dreams but the recent WR already maxes out the score multiplier before the Utsuho battle :V
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 10, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
Bah, it's the same. Though, isn't Mima like choosing the order of her attacks at random so you need to guess when she'll use that star rape that you need to misdirect?
Nope! In actuality, Mima has various "sets" of attacks she'll use when she's at certain health amounts. Though which attack in that set she starts with is random, they always go in a set order. So during her third phase, she'll use "wide spread white bullets," then "spiraling orreries," then "star spread," then "wide spread white bullets," and so on. When the phase starts she'll use any one of these at random, but she will then always use the next in the set. And before you say it, there's a certain tell that lets you know when she's about to use her infamous star spread attack, and gives you ample time to set up the counter.
...Can you tell I've analyzed this fight a bit too much? ;^^
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on February 10, 2012, 07:54:07 PM
Well if you put it like that then I guess she can't be labelled as unfair. Just stupid as you put it. ;)
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: ふねん1 on February 10, 2012, 08:28:04 PM
Sorry to ruin your dreams but the recent WR already maxes out the score multiplier before the Utsuho battle :V
He may mean the WRs for characters other than those that max out the multiplier before Utsuho. However, my opinion is that technique looks a bit too hard to pull off consistently to be feasible. One life is worth 40 million points in SA, and losing one unnecessarily is a pretty big deal.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: ARF on February 10, 2012, 08:38:56 PM
He may mean the WRs for characters other than those that max out the multiplier before Utsuho. However, my opinion is that technique looks a bit too hard to pull off consistently to be feasible. One life is worth 40 million points in SA, and losing one unnecessarily is a pretty big deal.
If I can somehow do it then UKT should definitely be able to do it consistently. There are visual cues and everything.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Skyler on February 11, 2012, 02:28:01 AM
Marisa frickin' Kirisame. Stars have to be my most hated bullet. When I first fought her I was surprised by how many nonspells she had. Patchouli only has two, the Prismrivers have one double-phased nonspell and a regular one (so 2 or 3 nonspells, take your pick) but Marisa has one between every card except her Spark and her Earth Light Ray/Shoot the Moon spells. Reimu is a lot better and more fun to fight in my opinion, also I prefer her theme to Marisa's, and she doesn't wall you as often as the darn witch. Marisa has been the obstacle keeping me from 1ccing Hard with Reimu solo and unlocking her Last Word. I just can't capture anything she has in an actual run, even though I do fine in Spell Practice.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Phlegeth on February 11, 2012, 02:59:50 AM
Stages 4 and especially 5 of UFO. After the midbosses, there's points and bullets and enemies and UFOs and everything everywhere.
And Shiki get's my vote for boss. Unless PoFV counts as a stage, in which case it's tied with the above. Those black hole thingies that just spawn out more hotdogs. And Lily always picks the worst possible time to show up, which is anytime she shows up after a minute into the fight. And she'll show up again and again.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Esper on February 11, 2012, 04:42:27 AM
The fight I feel is the most unfuckingfair is Touhou 8 Stage 4. Yes, you heard me right. I think both Marisa AND Reimu are pains in the ass to fight. On normal, I can barely dodge fucking ANY of their damn cards. They're just BARELY worthy being their own final boss fight, let alone a Stage 4 boss!
AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY FUCKING SHIFT DEPENDING ON WHATEVER. I'VE PLAYED LLS. I CAN BEAT BOTH OF THEIR ASSES FINE IN LLS.
If you want a fight that's more recent, try every Hard Mode fight on UFO. Nazrin in particular because Pendulums and Kogasa because rain spellcard (Yes, that's my only problem with her), Ichirin because fists and dense bullet formations. Haven't seen anything past stage 3 because Ichirin kills me every damn time.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: 8lue Wizard on February 11, 2012, 06:31:12 PM
Can I say all of StB? Yeah. Fuck that game.
In terms of stages, UFO extra is the only one I've stricken off my "to clear" list without actually having cleared it. The stage protion is just that stupidly annoying. (...speaking of which, I really should get back to working on TD extra.)
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on February 13, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
What is the most exciting experience you've had playing Touhou? i am torn between my clear of UFO extra and my clear of MS normal: both were big, flashy, endorphin-generating, rollicking rides for me from start to finish. Soooooooooo much fun that I still remember them years later.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Skyler on February 13, 2012, 07:50:30 PM
I'd say it was when I beat EoSD Extra. It was my first Extra stage beaten and my God it was difficult. It took me about 5 months and I still can't beat it consistantly.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Raikaria on February 13, 2012, 07:56:01 PM
Had to be when I beat TD Normal.
Especially since I went into Miko worse than every other time I had got to her... and pulled it out of the bag.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: BT on February 13, 2012, 07:58:34 PM
Either the first EoSD Normal 1cc or first MoF Extra clear.
First 1cc and extra clear, respectively. I was hyped for hours after both.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on February 13, 2012, 08:14:02 PM
It was about equal for my perfect of Remilia and my PoDD lunatic 1cc. Both were long, arduous, high-stress goals that I worked incessantly at, and the moment I realized I had done them, I held my mouth in shock as I made sounds like a disney princess in labor. It was magical. :)
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Post by: I have no name on February 13, 2012, 08:29:02 PM
Most exciting huh... perfecting Mountain of Faith extra stage, no contest. Well, except maybe my first no focus clear of PCB normal-it was a roller coaster ride, but I managed with nothing left.
But yeah, perfect MoF extra stage, because I'd worked so hard, gotten to the hard part only 12 of 150 tries, choked on the final spell once, and then finally triumphed (despite messing up Red Frog- I improvised a path through a wall :P)
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Post by: 8lue Wizard on February 13, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
My first ever extra clear. PCB, it was. Oh, the hijinx we had.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MMX on February 13, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
I'd say it was when I beat EoSD Extra. It was my first Extra stage beaten and my God it was difficult. It took me about 5 months and I still can't beat it consistantly.
I second this! I can also remember my first 1CC (EoSD normal) but that excitement is so common for all touhou players. I've beaten Flandre only once but never forget that shakes when i entered Q.E.D. with 0/0 and captured it :*
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Post by: Yamame on February 13, 2012, 09:21:19 PM
Probably my first EoSD 1cc Normal (to unlock extra) with MarisaA. Excellent playing up until stage 6, then I quickly lose all of my six lives due to stupid mistakes and slow bombing. Eventually I'm facing Red Magic with no lives or bombs, and I manage to pull off my first capture.
Seeing Nue's final attack for the first time with 1 power, no lives and one bomb and making it through successfully would have been better if I could capture it instead of reflex bombing on the easiest wave. I suppose making it through with 1 power is an accomplishment itself, but still.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Piranha on February 13, 2012, 09:24:43 PM
I only recently started with extra bosses(Flan, Ran and Mokou), so no extra clear yet. But the most exciting experience until now was my first clear of PCB , because Yuyukos fight, especially the end of her Last Spell, is just perfect when all the bullets on screen dissolve into cherry points. :D My first Normal clear(EoSD)is also up there, I was thinking "FINALLY!" as I survived with 0/0 left. Oh, and my first UFO 1cc, because Byakuren >:(
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Post by: Zengeku on February 13, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
There are too many of those to properly point out one specific. I always get quite an adrenaline rush when I'm close to doing something and a short while after having done things. Its the kind of thing that really makes playing shmups harder. When you are close to doing something like a perfect Byakuren you are more likely to screw up because, you just perfected everything and the hardest thing still remains. Same thing with other bosses even if you have done the bosses before its still an exilerating thing to perfect a hard boss like Shou and Aya. The good thing about this kind of rush is that you don't even get particularly angry with your failures like failing a no-bombs attempt or failing a perfect at the final card.
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If I'm to pick one that's final then it must be back when I got my timeout of VoWG. It was like, 30 seconds left on the timer. Haven't died yet. Can do this! Then right at the last 10 seconds she throws a nasty wave at me and I make one excellently timed dash through two amulet hitboxes. Pulling off that move is actually something I'm fairly consistent with but its still exhilarating to do.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zil on February 13, 2012, 09:41:19 PM
I think Donut asked this question as well
[ruro]I think he did, but it was before this thread and as long as it hasn't been asked in this one, I don't care. BV[/ruro]
Definately 1ccing SA on Lunatic at 90fps. Nothing has taken more effort than that out of anything I've done. When Utsuho exploded and the bullets disappeared... I just drew away from the screen and started whispering "fuck" repeatedly.
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Post by: MMX on February 13, 2012, 10:59:10 PM
When Utsuho exploded and the bullets disappeared... I just drew away from the screen and started whispering "fuck" repeatedly.
1.5 times faster than usual :D
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Post by: Phlegeth on February 14, 2012, 12:17:22 AM
When I got to Shou with three lives. When I got past her second nonspell without dieing, I started thinking I could pull this off. And I did. Her Most Valuable Vajra got me twice and Demon of Purification got me once. I lasered her in the face after that until the time ran out. Didn't make it to Byakuren, but that's the farthest I've ever gotten.
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Post by: KLH on February 14, 2012, 01:01:09 AM
My 1CC of Touhou 07 Hard Difficulty on my very first attempt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9lys8Ipwf8) - that moment in my half-asleep boredom (I just wanted the game to end already so I could see if I unlocked Phantasm) when I realized that I actually had a solid chance of clearing Hard on my first try. Wonderful 0/0 clear.
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Post by: ARF on February 14, 2012, 01:23:36 AM
First MoF 1cc left the best feeling, although the more recent first SA lunatic 1cc had a more "I just climbed a mountain and punched God in the face" feeling about it. Really strange.
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Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on February 14, 2012, 01:52:15 AM
1cc'ing PCB for the first time. That sheer tension when you get to Youmu and Yuyuko, the mix of panic and determination when you confront their spells, the adrenaline as the seconds tick away on Resurrection Butterfly... I've only cleared the game on Easy, but somehow it felt more satisfying than my MoF Normal 1cc.
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Post by: MTSranger on February 14, 2012, 03:06:09 AM
Probably EoSD lunatic 1cc or SA lunatic 1cc. The EoSD normal 1cc is also worth mentioning, since it was my first one.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on February 14, 2012, 11:43:01 AM
My first Normal 1cc of Mountain of Faith.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: VIZINGORD on February 14, 2012, 11:46:37 PM
Out of all the Touhou games, which one has the most unfair stage and/or boss fight and why?
Stage: UFO's stage 3 in Hard or Lunatic. Boss: Shou.
What is the most exciting experience you've had playing Touhou?
My first extra clear, against Ran. Also my capture of Profound Field, which was the last last word that i needed.
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Post by: Ranko Hoshino on February 15, 2012, 03:46:09 AM
my first and currently only Extra Clear
I'd still like to improve against Ex Keine and Mokotan
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on February 15, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Which Touhou Stage and Boss are the most unfair?
STAGE: UFO Extra. It seems to just come down to a huge memorization game on where those multi-color-spamming fairies appear before and after Ex-Kogasa. If you don't kill them immediately, it becomes a mess. This is true of all Extra stages to some degree, but it's especially apparently in UFO for me.
BOSS: PoFV Shikieiki Yamaxanadu. Have you watched her dodge on Lunatic? Seriously!?
What is your most exciting Touhou experience?
I have a tie here. My UFO clear make me nearly scream in satisfaction when those rings of amulets disappeared on Flying Fantastica. But I think my first PCB Extra clear might just barely beat that out. I made it to Izuna Gongen with 1 Life left and died on the 3rd tier of bullets (the Red Bubbles). It was a silly death. And then.... I found the safespot. It was both exhilarating and depressing to know that nothing could kill me, but that it happened on a run where I could no longer capture the spell.
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Post by: chirpy13 on February 15, 2012, 04:53:21 PM
I'm saying that I don't approve of the way the stage relies too heavily on pixel perfection and memorization with no real room for improvization. And that is unfortunately a kind of crutch that SA likes to use a bit too much rather than designing an interesting kind of challenge.
Satori of my life man... At least the non-clone phases, and particularly the second nonspell. Clipdeaths because you're sitting a pixel off position in either direction is a huge pissoff.
Ahem... Most unfair boss is a tough one, since most actually are pretty fair. The worst I can think of is Yuka due to her final phase (Stage 5 or 6, take your pick). They're pretty nutters on max rank, and I'm not even sure if they'd be possible on low rank due to walls. Especially the Stage 6 final.
Stages are even harder for me to pick. Does PoDD final count? If not, I guess EoSD 4 because of the pre-Koakuma books, or PCB 6 because of the pre-Youmu shitstorm.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 15, 2012, 04:59:18 PM
Oh god, don't remind me of Yuka's final phase. >_< I think it is impossible on lower ranks. I savestate scummed it for 45 minutes straight, and never managed to beat it. Then I moved back and reached it on max rank. Cue me capturing it in five. ;>_>
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Post by: Tamashii Kanjou on February 15, 2012, 07:50:57 PM
Whilst any moment I've spent clearing one of the games would certainly count for this, there is one hour of my life that I will always treasure the most...
11th October, 2011. Having been stuck behind Youmu so many times, I managed to keep most of my lives past her. The next few minutes had my heart racing like mad. I was fighting Yuyuko; and for once, I was actually doing it. The second I took her out on her last card, I glanced at my lives; 1 life spare. I took a deep breath and readied myself for the one card I had never faced before... Resurrection Butterfly. With no lives and 1 bomb spare, I cleared PCB for the very first time; having started playing Touhou (which, ironically enough, was PCB) in 2009. I think everyone on IRC that day was subject to my full on capslock approach on how I described that moment.
I'm glad you didn't ask for worst moment; because I cry just remembering it. :V
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on February 16, 2012, 09:28:25 PM
Aah! I just remembered one that I never asked, but always meant to. Ahem.
What is your favorite hair ribbon?
Everyone talks about the hats, but considerably less attention has been given to the other half of the dichotomy (ignoring animal extremities). So, who has your favorite hair ribbon?
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Post by: Phlegeth on February 16, 2012, 09:33:51 PM
*Points to avatar* The first thing I noticed about Yorihime was her giant yellow ribbon.
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Post by: Raikaria on February 16, 2012, 09:35:13 PM
Rumia for character relevance.
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Post by: BT on February 16, 2012, 09:41:21 PM
Youmu.
Eaaasssyyyyy.
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Post by: I have no name on February 16, 2012, 11:19:37 PM
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Post by: pineyappled on February 17, 2012, 01:58:47 AM
Mokomokomoko. There is no competition.
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Post by: Zil on February 17, 2012, 04:14:04 AM
Yeah, Mokou. No contest.
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Post by: chirpy13 on February 17, 2012, 04:48:32 AM
Youmu :3
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Post by: KrackoCloud on February 17, 2012, 07:21:49 AM
Does Remilia's hat ribbon count? If not, Youmu all the way.
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Post by: Formless God on February 17, 2012, 07:43:04 AM
Kasen
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Post by: Sality on February 17, 2012, 01:25:06 PM
Cute Youmu with her ribbon.
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Post by: ふねん1 on February 17, 2012, 01:56:28 PM
Not sure if I have a true favorite that stands out above the rest, but I like Utsuho's, Youmu's, and Reimu's ribbons.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MMX on February 17, 2012, 03:10:00 PM
Hina and Youmu.
P.S.: What a silly question. I'd like more of that :)
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Post by: nintendonut888 on February 17, 2012, 05:53:06 PM
I delayed on this question like normal, but really, there's only one answer for me: Reimu's hair ribbon. Comically oversized ribbons are the best in my opinion. <3 Gengetsu's is also quite oversized in fanart, but the real one isn't so impressive.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Ranko Hoshino on February 18, 2012, 12:56:00 AM
Cirno's for the simple cuteness and Mokou's for the coolness. :3
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Post by: Alfred F. Jones on February 18, 2012, 08:25:03 AM
Thanks, Donut, I just realized that thanks to all the stuff I've been busy doing I was going to forget all about this >_<
I like Akyu's flower hair ribbon. Yorihime's is also nice.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on February 18, 2012, 08:35:42 AM
Does Sanae's frog hairpin count? If it doesn't, I say Hina's ribbon.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Piranha on February 18, 2012, 10:19:52 AM
Youmu's, because black and white always looks good.
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Post by: LeviLamprey on February 18, 2012, 10:43:58 AM
Hina's and Reimu's, and fanon Gengetsu's.
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Post by: VIZINGORD on February 20, 2012, 05:18:13 AM
Reimu's and Youmu's.
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Post by: Desu_Cake on February 20, 2012, 12:27:56 PM
Hina's. It's so preeeeetyyy.
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Post by: Esper on February 20, 2012, 03:33:36 PM
Most exciting moments?
This, (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17930) this, (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18077) this being the absolute fucking top of them all, (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18929) this, (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18885) this, (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17377) and this. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18872)
1) Final Master Spark Lunatic NoFocus Pacifist 2) UFO ReimuB 1cc 3) Imperishable Night Hard 1cc with Border Team Final A 4) Mountain of Faith Extra Clear 5) SA MarisaB Stage 4 Normal Perfect 6) EoSD Extra Clear
Favorite hair accessory (Not all of them are ribbons and to tell the truth I don't give a shit if this doesn't count hair accessories are hair accessories)?
Let's see, in lines of hats, there's Eirin's hat, Marisa's hat, Tenshi's hat, and Mononobe no Futo's hat.
In lines of ribbons, there's Hina Kagiyama's ribbon, Reimu's ribbon, and Mokou's ribbons.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zil on February 24, 2012, 05:17:35 AM
Are people forgetting this thread? Donut said he was saving a question for the end, but I don't think it was the ribbon one, so it can't be over with yet. In that case I'll just take the opportunity...
Who is your favorite opponent in PoFV?
They're all are pretty different with spells and extra shots and whatever. So who is the most fun to fight? For me it's Mystia. She's not wall-happy, and her spells contribute to the danmaku rather than being some nightmarish thing that you have to cancel out with your own spells.
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Post by: pineyappled on February 24, 2012, 06:08:13 AM
Mystia. No bouncing shit for me, thank you very much. Yuuka's sunflowers have weird hitboxes, Marisa's lasers are rage-worthy, and Tei is... fuckkkkkkkkkkk.
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Post by: Naut on February 24, 2012, 06:32:55 AM
Yuuka. Slow moving walls mean you have to move around the screen a lot, and she tends to poop bullets everywhere to dodge between at the same time. A blast to play against.
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Post by: I have no name on February 24, 2012, 06:43:17 AM
Ayayayaya...except that SHE NEVER DIES So instead I'll go with Cirno.
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Post by: Zengeku on February 24, 2012, 08:14:31 AM
The first boss. She usually dies the fastest.
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Post by: K.B. on February 24, 2012, 09:02:11 AM
Lots of freedom on how to dodge (doesn't force you to one side or confine you to small areas) and she's hard to cheese for spell charge (unlike characters like Cirno, Shiki, and Yuuka) so you have to spend more time reading and dodging than lvl2-battling. She usually chews me up and spits me out, but she gives me a greater high than anyone else when I'm playing well. Aside from Shiki and her music, that is. Mystia is a load of fun too.
Doesn't change my overall answer, but I find that my degree of liking a given opponent depends heavily upon my character's focused speed, scope style, and attack speed (for reflected bullets).
I have two questions that haven't been done, so I'd appreciate a go before Donut has his finale. Not trying to claim next or anything, just once/twice before the end.
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Post by: Seppo Hovi on February 24, 2012, 09:08:31 AM
Tewi. All those patterns are rather easygoing, and I don't really have to focus on dodging when I fight against her.
Also, the fights against her usually end rather fast, so the rank doesn't rise too high and the randomness doesn't start to kill you. I think she's one of the easiest opponents you can no-blood as Youmu without focus usage or charge attacks, which is my idiotic style to play PoFV.
I also play it against a couple of my friends, one of them plays with Komachi, one with Reimu (and spams the level 1 charge attack) and the best one of them plays with Tewi. I guess that has given some.. training for me against these charachters, especially Tewi, who is rather much harder when played by my friend instead of the computer.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Desu_Cake on February 24, 2012, 02:17:55 PM
Everyone who isn't Medicine. I like fighting Sakuya a lot. She's pretty easy as long as you pay attention.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Makai Butterfly on February 24, 2012, 02:55:35 PM
Favorite Hair Ribbon: Yukari's red hat ribbon and Mokou's.
Favorite PoFV Opponent: Komachi. Those patterns make my brain hurt in a good way.
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Post by: Phlegeth on February 24, 2012, 03:05:42 PM
I'm gonna say Yuuka too. The music helps. And unless Lily's on the screen, flying through the flowers is fun and keeps you on your toes.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Chuckolator on February 25, 2012, 04:36:27 AM
Komachi, her attacks are hard but fair.
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Post by: Random on February 25, 2012, 06:43:18 AM
Shikieiki.
Look at her shuffle!
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Post by: chirpy13 on February 26, 2012, 01:09:05 AM
Aya for her fast bullets. Sure it's mostly streaming, but it's still pretty enjoyable for me, and 90FPS match mode against her is great fun even if it's a surefire way to die.
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Post by: Esper on February 26, 2012, 06:20:34 AM
I like fighting Yuuka. Her danmaku's fun for the sake of being fun, right balance of cheap and "doableness".
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Post by: Sality on February 27, 2012, 11:38:16 AM
Medicine.
Slowing-Poison never gets old.
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Post by: Piranha on February 27, 2012, 08:48:05 PM
Yeah, I like Komachi too. She's definitely challenging, but not impossible(like Shikieiki :getdown:)
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Post by: Skyler on February 28, 2012, 12:30:31 AM
Favourite hair ribbon: Youmu's or Flandre's if it counts. I would answer the PoFV question but I don't have the game, so yeah.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: K.B. on March 02, 2012, 11:43:47 PM
Which game has your favorite plot/storytelling?
By that I mean content and delivery, respectively. Feel free to emphasize other aspects, like setting and backstory... characters too, as long as it's about their in-game interactions and not their series-wide personalities, fluffiness, and so on. If it's just a certain part of a game that makes it especially good, that's perfectly fine as well.
For the confused, these are comprised of the things that you clicked through and inadvertently read some of before you learned to ctrl.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Random on March 03, 2012, 12:23:52 AM
UFO probably has my favorite storyline. Byakuren has my favorite backstory as well, along with Mokou.
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Post by: Piranha on March 03, 2012, 01:47:05 AM
UFO.
IN is also good, but UFO has 6 different storylines, each one pretty interesting.
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Post by: Esper on March 03, 2012, 02:05:18 AM
Favorite plot?
Well, it's a tie between EoSD, UFO, PCB, and IN, with IN and EoSD Being the higher ties.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zil on March 03, 2012, 02:29:16 AM
I really like the Story if Eastern Wonderland for some reason. The characters are all very interesting to me, and it has a certain feel to it that the other games don't have. More serious maybe, or just oldschool. There's something about it that makes me like it. Other than that I'd go with EoSD, for more or less similar reasons. The characters feel less random and more unified. I also like how the story gets itself across more easily. All of these weird backstories for some of the others actually kind of bother me. I feel like I don't get to know the characters just by playing the game.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Phlegeth on March 03, 2012, 03:44:57 AM
UFO has my favorite plot and cast of characters, but Great Fairy Wars has some of the best lines. It's diffidently between those two.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: pineyappled on March 03, 2012, 03:59:56 AM
PCB and IN by far, storyline-wise. TD's conversations, especially Seiga and Yoshika's on Reimu, are adorable. I think conversations in the other games feel pretty bland.
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Post by: Zengeku on March 03, 2012, 10:18:26 AM
The only story that I remember in Touhou is SanaeBs UFO Extra story. On the occasion i decide to play that stage, i still stop to read the dialogue there because its hilarious. For a main game, I prefer SA because its about a nuclear loli who's about to go ballistic and because the MarisaA path is funny because they talk about it like an old-school RPG.
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Post by: MMX on March 03, 2012, 11:21:08 AM
I never seriously bothered about storylines behind the games. Moreover, i find plots of most touhou games rather silly :) Though, i like how it's done in SA with pretty straightforward mystery, different goals of youkais and cool characters and conversations overall.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on March 03, 2012, 04:42:25 PM
I like UFO's plot in general but MarisaA's story in SA has some pretty awesome dialogue in my opinion. Honorable mention goes to the dialogue in stage 4 of IN while playing as Magic Team: "Now, b***h, get out of the way!"
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Post by: ふねん1 on March 03, 2012, 05:03:59 PM
I also don't bother too much with the stories, since I always skip the dialogue while playing. The most I'll do with that is read the translations on the wiki. I'd have to say IN for this question, since I find the dialogue from that game to be the most memorable (Netherworld Team especially).
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on March 03, 2012, 07:25:26 PM
Definitely UFO. I find the Youkai's side of the story rather sad, actually. The entire game seems like you're playing as the bad guys trying to stop good from winning because of how kind-hearted Byakuren is compared to the heroines (Marisa, I'm looking at you). It's also touching that all of the stage bosses feel such loyalty and duty for Byakuren. I can't say that's the case with most of the other games, Ten Desires aside. PCB runs a close second, though. The musical score combined with the visuals and dialogue ("Remembering the melancholy of human existence... Even ghosts stray from the path of righteousness." is pure poetry) leaves such a strong impression after the game.
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Post by: Zengeku on March 04, 2012, 10:04:25 AM
I think the early generation English patches were pretty bad. She probably didn't even say that. ;)
I know, in fact the wiki has a different translation. But It's a pretty awesome line regardless of that in my opinion. :P
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Post by: Zengeku on March 04, 2012, 10:50:25 AM
Indeed it is.
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Post by: K.B. on March 04, 2012, 09:14:19 PM
I wouldn't throw the other early windows games under the bus just because one of them may have had translation issues. Granted, I can't read Japanese, but I've compared parts of the EoSD translations (wiki and patch), and the divergences in the patch that I noticed seemed to have been a tradeoff in conveying the essence of the wordplay/humor over retaining complete literal accuracy.
My point there wasn't to argue that one translation mindset is superior to another; it was to point out that newer doesn't always mean better. Correlation perhaps and at times, but not causation.
Anyway.
Of the ones I've played and read (2,6-12.3), PoFV has my favorite story. It has a good amount of the typical Touhou lightheartedness/stupidity, but it also has conversations that compel (at least some of) the characters to rethink their actions/lifestyles. And while the plot of the game itself is inconsequential to the Touhou universe, there're serious undercurrents regarding both the consequences of humanity's actions as a whole and the impact individuals have on themselves and others through their mindsets and in how they lead their lives. While I didn't fully agree with parts of it, I found the ethical and metaphysical aspects of the writing to be very satisfying overall, so PoFV's story hits a little closer to home and is more meaningful to me than that of the other games in the series.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Starxsword on March 05, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
Probably Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, Komachi's route. I also like a lot of the Immaterial and Missing Power story lines. The Hisoutensoku story lines are good for some laughs.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: nintendonut888 on March 08, 2012, 11:20:06 PM
Hmm. I think it's been long enough. Just like the first incarnation, all the questions eventually dry up, and creativity can only take you so far. So now, I ask my final question of the thread:
What is your favorite staff roll theme?
ZUN is quite amazing at what he does. With few exceptions, his credits themes are both thematic and beautiful. As this thread draws to a close, which theme do you think fits the closing of their respective game the most?
This is a very hard one for me to choose, because with one exception I like all the staff roll themes. If I had to pick only one, it would be...Oriental Memory of Foregathering Dream (IaMP). Such an amazing piece. Honorable mentions to Eastern Dream, Eternal Steam Engine, Sky Dream, and Maple Dream. Oh, and if unused themes count, then Crescent Dream. Man that's a good one.
And with that, I am done adding questions to this. Thank you all for participating for as long as you have, and maybe we can see a third incarnation of this in a couple years!
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Zengeku on March 08, 2012, 11:24:12 PM
The UFO one. Probably because its usually accompanied by a surge of adrenaline having just finished the game which isn't really achieved in the other games. I do like the MoF and the TD ones too. Don't remember the rest much.
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Post by: MMX on March 08, 2012, 11:59:21 PM
Defenitely MoF one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prMa3i_CtSg) The only one i listened through whole again and again every time i've cleared the game.
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Post by: Zil on March 09, 2012, 01:20:46 AM
Crimson Belvedere ~ Eastern Dream. Well beyond the rest of them in my opinion. It's the only one I like listening to.
If the unused ones count then Starbow Dream is also pretty good.
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Post by: K.B. on March 09, 2012, 07:00:48 AM
Yep, Eastern Dream.
Thanks for running these, donut. Been fun.
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on March 09, 2012, 09:06:05 AM
Japanize Dream or UFO's credit theme are both among my favorites. Can I just say that I love the game over music for all the recent games too because they include the beginning of Suwa Foughten Field?
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Post by: BT on March 09, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
The Eternal Steam Engine
I'm a sap for these.
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Post by: Seppo Hovi on March 09, 2012, 10:35:50 AM
Crimson Belvedere ~ Eastern Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9AoReAqJyk) will always be the one for me. I just.... love the EoSD ending. It's just somewhat relaxing after such an battle against Remilia. I will probably always remember what it felt like, to gain my first EoSD lunatic 1CC. I was alone in this same computer class I'm writing this post from, it was getting somewhat late in the evening and everyone else had left to their homes to spend their lives doing something else than sitting at the school's computer class. So, back to the point, I was alone, having probably my worst run of EoSD ever. I had decided that it would be the final run of the day, the final attempt before I'd leave for home. I had something like two to three lives entering stage 6, and I was rather hopeless. Back then, I had ever probably captured only one card off Remilia, so my run was basically doomed. I had had trouble beating this boss in practice mode, gaining extends through the fight, how the hell was I supposed to beat her without the two extends and a bombspam? .. Everything went as swiftly as possible. I didn't die to Eternal Meek (I died to the noncard before it, IIRC) and I miraclously succeeded to defeat Remilia with a... bombspam at her two final cards. Nevertheless, I beat the game on the hardest difficulty, for the first time. It was raining outside, raindrops were falling on the windows. And I'm.. unsure, but I might have shed a tear or two, while listening to the awesome ending theme.
And, while I don't get the awesome feeling to that extent nowdays, I still get a somewhat nostalgic feeling, hinting back towards it. So, yeah, I'm picking the EoSD one.
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Post by: Zengeku on March 09, 2012, 10:57:30 AM
Right, that one. I'll actually choose this one on par with the UFO one. I forgot about it but this one is pretty nice.
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Post by: fsvgm777 on March 09, 2012, 04:48:47 PM
Definitely The Eternal Steam Engine for me. Honorable mention to Eastern Dream.
For unused themes (if they count), then Crescent Dream for me. That should have been the one used in LLS, in my honest opinion (not that I hate Arcadian Dream).
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Post by: Azinth on March 09, 2012, 05:20:19 PM
This one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3sOg9iFXQE)
Yes it totally counts because I said so.
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Post by: Phlegeth on March 09, 2012, 09:17:44 PM
Going to be different and say Flower of Soul.
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Post by: Starxsword on March 10, 2012, 06:24:11 AM
The Eternal Steam Engine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L55J_5dYaKM)
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Post by: ExPorygon on March 10, 2012, 10:19:53 PM
Oriental Evening Sky or Crimson Belvedere ~ Eastern Dream. I'm leaning more toward the former.
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Post by: Skyler on March 10, 2012, 10:55:16 PM
EoSD's. When I got my first Normal 1cc, sitting back and listening to this theme was so relieving. It's probably my favourite theme from EoSD as well.
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Post by: Piranha on March 11, 2012, 06:00:43 AM
Crimson Belvedere ~ Eastern Dream will always be number one for me. I almost teared up when hearing it after my first Normal 1cc. It's just so beautiful :derp:
Does anybody else find this song incredibly sad/melancholic?
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Post by: nintendonut888 on March 11, 2012, 06:10:50 AM
Crimson Belvedere ~ Eastern Dream will always be number one for me. I almost teared up when hearing it after my first Normal 1cc. It's just so beautiful :derp:
Does anybody else find this song incredibly sad/melancholic?
Oh, not at all. I always was amazed how fitting the song was, whether you failed or 1cc'd. If you failed, it felt like you were walking home battered and beaten, swearing to return. If you won, the very same intro felt like a hard-earned victory. Even with the limitations of the EoSD sound system, the song is brilliant. :D
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Post by: Star King on March 12, 2012, 01:46:57 AM
I guess I'm the only one whose favorite is Ten Desire's. Honorable mention to IaMP's and EoSD's.
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Post by: Esper on March 17, 2012, 02:38:18 AM
Crimson Belvedere ~ Eastern Dream for fucking sure. It sounds calming and upbeat at the same time.
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Post by: AxiamWolfe on March 17, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
Mine is IN's Eternal Dream ~ Mystic Maple, and by extension Maple Dream from PoDD. There's just something about the melody that is calming, catchy and thematically fitting; with the end of the Imperishable Night and the break of dawn.
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Post by: Sality on March 18, 2012, 01:50:02 PM
Sakura, Sakura - Japanize Dream.
Perfect Cherry Blossom is special for me, that goes for its credit song as well.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 07, 2012, 06:51:50 PM
What, no questions anymore?
At the risk of having repeated a question:
Which sixth stage midboss do you find the most difficult?
it was either that or "which stage 1 boss has the best nonspells"
i would probably have to go with nue myself because i am bad at her attack for some reason
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: I have no name on April 07, 2012, 06:53:18 PM
Sakuya comes down to luck, I can't do half of Youmu, I can't do half of Eirin in 6B, either in 6A, Orin is cake, Nue is a pain and that covers everyone.
Going to have to go with 6A Eirin because of Earth in a Pot.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Random on April 07, 2012, 08:18:55 PM
Sakuya comes down to luck, I can't do half of Youmu, I can't do half of Eirin in 6B, either in 6A, Orin is cake, Nue is a pain and that covers everyone.
Going to have to go with 6A Eirin because of Earth in a Pot.
Everything here, seriously.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: BT on April 07, 2012, 10:00:45 PM
Sakuya. I'm pretty sure you can master Eirin eventually, like everything in IN. Youmu is static, Orin is easy if you're not hyper, Nue is ehhhhh but can't be worse than Eternal Meek.
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Post by: MTSranger on April 07, 2012, 10:24:57 PM
For scoring, it's probably Sakuya - Eternal Meek safespot is hard to get. Nue also gets mention due to sometimes getting there with no bombs, making blue UFO summon difficult.
For survival, it's probably 6A Eirin due to annoying nonspell and earth in a pot - 2 bombs right there to be safe lol. One bomb gets rid of Eternal Meek really easily and Sakuya's nonspell is easy. Nue is also perfectly fine for survival - memorize a static route and you're set. Stage 6 Youmu - the nonspell can be memorized or bombed and the spell can be safespotted.
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 07, 2012, 11:56:36 PM
Eirin and Nue are a tie for me. Sometimes Earth in a Pot seems like a cakewalk (especially if you lure it to a corner so half of the familiars disappear), and sometimes you end up bombing within seconds. As for Nue, her endless near-walls get me nervous and I often just bomb the fourth phase to be safe.
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Post by: KrackoCloud on April 08, 2012, 12:43:32 AM
Orin or Nue for me, though they're all pretty tough I suppose.
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 08, 2012, 12:53:44 AM
6A Eirin is the toughest for me. Her nonspell still catches me sometimes despite learning the pattern ages ago, and Earth in a Pot is tough as anyone not named Youmu.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on April 08, 2012, 12:55:53 AM
Oh, I'm done asking questions. You're free to continue this, if you think of any more.
I'mma also go with 6A Eirin. Annoying non-spell, even more annoying spell card.
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Post by: Esper on April 08, 2012, 02:36:15 AM
I would say Sakuya, but I can't clear either of the Midboss Eirin encounters for shit so Eirin 6a because Galaxy in a Pot is more forgiving and easy.
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Post by: Seppo Hovi on April 08, 2012, 10:27:32 AM
Eirin's midboss noncard is enough bullshit to win the vote for survival alone, even while it is fully static. So my first vote probably goes for midboss Eirin, 6a, since, while you can cheese Earth in a Pot (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20084), and learn the noncard, you still mess it up every now and then.
Sakuya follows close after, since Eternal meek can be bullshit when scoring and the noncard is really wall-happy.
Scorewise, I'm not sure. UFO might be hard, but I've never really tried it, Orin just gets bombed and you usually pick 6B if you go for score in IN. Granted, Eternal meek safespot is not funny at all, but I'm unsure if Youmu is harder when scoring or not. At least on the lower difficulties, where I've tried it, the slash-grazing is no mean feat to pull off consistently. But then again, you COULD just sit in the safespots, but that would not be fun at all, would it? Maybe Youmu or Sakuya, if we're talking about scoring. - But since I haven't really tried scoring on lunatic and especially not the cool grazing tricks that late into the game, I might just as well be wrong.
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Post by: Esper on April 08, 2012, 02:37:20 PM
Funny, most people bitch about her nonspell. I personally think those spells are hard to cheese, actually, while the nonspell is remotely simple. The thing that might piss you off is the fact that it's her first instance of Apollo 13, also known as The Card that Everyone Hates.
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Post by: I have no name on April 08, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
On lunatic the pattern is so fast i can't even follow it on the nonspell.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 08, 2012, 02:49:11 PM
I don't really know. I would say IN because I'm a dick at the non-spells there but at the same time there is Eternal Meek which doesn't really look too hard to me but I don't actually play the game so I don't know if there is something special that makes it harder than it looks.
Well... I'll just go with EoSD.
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Post by: Esper on April 08, 2012, 03:36:30 PM
I don't really know. I would say IN because I'm a dick at the non-spells there but at the same time there is Eternal Meek which doesn't really look too hard to me but I don't actually play the game so I don't know if there is something special that makes it harder than it looks.
Well... I'll just go with EoSD.
Eternal Meek's stupid but if you can read really well, it's an easy capture.
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Post by: Zil on April 08, 2012, 03:36:46 PM
Eirin's nonspell is static guys. :V
So is Apollo 13.
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Post by: I have no name on April 08, 2012, 04:38:21 PM
Both are also randomly oriented, Apollo 13 doubly so for each wave. If the nonspell can still trip up me of all people, that's certainly saying something about its difficulty.
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Post by: chirpy13 on April 08, 2012, 05:04:55 PM
It's a tossup between eternal meek and Eirin's nonspell for me. I think I'll give this one to Sakuya though.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 08, 2012, 05:12:52 PM
Eternal Meek's stupid but if you can read really well, it's an easy capture.
How is it stupid then?
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Post by: Star King on April 08, 2012, 06:54:31 PM
I would have said Eirin 6A a week ago without hesitation, but I've learned how to do Earth in a Pot which was previously impossible for me so it's not as bad. Her nonspell is still pretty hard but I'm going to give it to Sakuya now. I hate you, Eternal Meek . Oh so much.
also I've been going through old questions and the fact that nobody mentioned IN Remilia for favorite shot types made me cry :V
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 09, 2012, 07:12:19 AM
Any reason why we can't reuse some questions in topics like these? The first topic is almost 2? years old, I'm sure there are a lot of new people like me, and even the people who were there before might have changed their opinions.
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Post by: I have no name on April 09, 2012, 12:29:40 PM
I've got a question (and I waited 2 days so no I'm not cutting it short :V) What is your favorite "death fairy"?
For me, I'm going to go with the one right at the end of Mountain of Faith Stage 6 on lunatic. It's fast-paced, almost frantic and different everytime, but at the same time very rarely does the pattern throw something at me I can't do.
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Post by: Zil on April 09, 2012, 12:32:13 PM
Lily in PoFV.
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Post by: MMX on April 09, 2012, 12:41:42 PM
EoSD extra pre-Patchy one is everyone's favourite nameless fairy :V
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 09, 2012, 01:04:33 PM
The Pre-Mokou fairy in IN. Yeah, it can be easily-cheesed, but I still love that it can cover the entire screen with bullets in seconds and keep it that way. If you don't know the pattern or the safespots, it could be panic-inducing.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 09, 2012, 01:34:26 PM
Could the final part of TD Stage 5's fairies be considered a Death Fairy? Or perhabs a Death Fairy Squad? Because that stuff is pretty awesome. If no, then I guess it's probably the one from MoF Stage 6. That one is cool and it can sometimes be challenging when it's bullets mixes themselves up with the final few bullets from the stage.
Any reason why we can't reuse some questions in topics like these? The first topic is almost 2? years old, I'm sure there are a lot of new people like me, and even the people who were there before might have changed their opinions.
No reason at all.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 09, 2012, 03:37:11 PM
I happen to enjoy the BoWaP fairies in SA Stage 6. But I'm certain I'm the only one.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 09, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
Why? BoWaP is a cool pattern. I'm sure you're not the only one.
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Post by: Esper on April 09, 2012, 06:48:34 PM
Imperishable Night Extra's death fairy right before Mokou. Somehow it's harder than half of Mokou's library if not more if you don't dick around and circle around it or sit in the corner like a cheap dumbass that can't spare a bomb.
If you're talking about the midboss, I can see what you mean but she's not that bad.
If you're talking about the end, she's even easier than Lily White.
Quote from: BT
I don't like bombing the IN Extra Death Fairy so I'm going to whine about it being annoying and static as if I never EVER make it there with bombs or even try to memorize it.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 09, 2012, 06:54:32 PM
but death fairies are generally understood as the between of stage popcorn and midbosses
lily white gets a healthbar
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 09, 2012, 06:55:01 PM
Somehow it's harder than half of Mokou's library if not more if you don't dick around and circle around it or sit in the corner like a cheap dumbass that can't spare a bomb.
Or memorize it. :V
Thinking on it, the MoF Stage 6 death-fairy is my answer too.
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Post by: Esper on April 09, 2012, 06:57:45 PM
Well, now that I think about it, it ties between Pre-Mokou fairy, Pre-Prismriver fairy, and Pre-Utsuho fairies.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on April 09, 2012, 07:01:29 PM
My favorite is Cherry, the one before the Prismriver Sisters. Not overly difficult, but also pretty and aesthetic.
...What? Surely I'm not the only one who's named them. D:
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 09, 2012, 07:02:31 PM
My favorite is Cherry, the one before the Prismriver Sisters. Not overly difficult, but also pretty and aesthetic.
...What? Surely I'm not the only one who's named them. D:
I call her "buttface with bomb resistance"
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Post by: BT on April 09, 2012, 07:08:39 PM
Esu I don't know what you're talking about since Lily is actually easier. Until you memorize the death fairy I guess but why would you want to do that anyway?
Maybe you're not referring to Lunatic?
And yes, the IN death fairy is bad for the same reasons. This isn't the "hardest death fairy" question but the "best death fairy" question. She's not the best because memorizing sucks and wasting a bomb because a pattern needs to be memorized is even worse.
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 09, 2012, 09:57:35 PM
Tie between pre-Utsuho and pre-Kanako fairies, for actually being fun.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 09, 2012, 11:12:47 PM
To Zengeku: Because it has no patterns and will rape your hitbox with blue orb bullets if you aren't careful.
Then be careful? Is the attack stupid because there isn't any pattern to it? You are meant to dodge it by looking at the bullets and moving around them. If she throws a 'wall' at you then you move around said wall. It's not easy but i'm convinced that it can be done consistently if you are skilled enough.
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Post by: Random on April 10, 2012, 01:06:53 AM
Lily White. Free graze is awesome and I love dodging her last phase.
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Post by: Star King on April 10, 2012, 01:21:10 AM
Ugh, I generally don't like death fairies, but if I have to pick the one I dislike the least I guess I'd go with the PCB one. Unless I can pick Cirno :derp:
EoSD extra pre-Patchy one is everyone's favourite nameless fairy :V
NO IT'S NOT. I hate it. It always walls me at like the last wave, and I have to bomb it. I know it can always be avoided if you think quickly enough, but I... don't...
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Post by: Esper on April 10, 2012, 01:22:31 AM
I just want to get a bloody question out of the way so if you don't mind
Who is your favorite Stage 4 boss?
I mean between any forms as well as bosses in general in the series (Forms because Satori and Prismriver sisters).
Personally my favorite is a tie between Satori-ReimuA, Satori-MarisaA, Aya, and the Prismriver sister forms that don't like to fuck everyone over.
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Post by: Star King on April 10, 2012, 01:27:12 AM
Patchy with MarisaA, because she gets all the hard (which to me is fun) attacks. Sylphae Horn AND Emerald Megalith? Hm... And in general, I'm a fan of "pure dodging", where you can't really memorize an attack or anything, you just dodge the hell out of it. Pretty much all of MarisaA's Patchouli's attack are like this (and EoSD is really good about this in general).
People are going to hate me for this, but I'm also a big fan of IN Marisa :D
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Post by: I have no name on April 10, 2012, 01:34:42 AM
I just want to get a bloody question out of the way so if you don't mind
tbh I do mind just a little bit since my question was out there for 13 hours total That and the question was already asked in Part 1 of this thread
Of course my answer has changed to Aya because SPEED
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Post by: Random on April 10, 2012, 01:38:59 AM
Seiga is probably the only stage 4 boss I really like playing.
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Post by: Thanuris on April 10, 2012, 01:41:57 AM
Patchouli
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Post by: Zil on April 10, 2012, 01:46:35 AM
Kotohime.
My favorite person to fight in stage four. Great boss attack, great spell attack, great theme song.
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 10, 2012, 01:54:02 AM
Favorite as a character, Marisa (hey, she debuted as a Stage 4 boss). Favorite in terms of gameplay, Satori.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 10, 2012, 01:55:20 AM
I really like MarisaC's Satori fight on easy because one of her spellcards is simply unmatched in it's complete and utter idiocy
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 10, 2012, 02:25:45 AM
See username, because lasers that aren't too easy and aren't too hard. That or Marisa, for tons of bullets that have no effect.
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Post by: BT on April 10, 2012, 06:24:52 AM
Patchouli.
All the cards are random and make you focus on two different things at the same time. All of the cards but one of them (UGH) are pure, fun dodging.
Satori would have been an option if not for her hideous, static nonspells.
Aya is easy second place.
Marisa in IN is all about learning her tricks except for Asteroid Belt, also plenty of her nonspells are static.
Murasa is fine except for her first spell which is "why the fuck is it there".
Seiga... dear God, Tongling Yoshika is a horrid card. There's nothing there to overly compensate for this besides MAYBE her third nonspell.
Prismrivers... NO.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 10, 2012, 08:37:39 AM
It would probably be Patchy if I played EoSD but I don't so it's probably Aya or Satori. Satori kinda fails because of some lame non-spells but she has two really good spellcards. It still doesn't save her from having the rest of her arsenal being comprised of static attacks. She does do something different if you play as other characters... yeah right...
Aya wins because her non-spells are competent. As are her spellcards. Very competent actually.
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 10, 2012, 03:11:32 PM
I'd have to go with Satori. Even though her nonspells are LOL-braindead easy/static, it's nice to see her use your own power against you. Pretty much every form of Satori has at least one spell that's a decent challenge too.
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Post by: Phlegeth on April 10, 2012, 04:22:59 PM
I'm going to say the Prismriver Sisters. I thought that was a fun fight.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 14, 2012, 01:36:14 PM
Which final boss has the best final card?
I can already tell what half of your answers will be, but I thought it was worth asking.
As for me, I like Hell's Artificial Sun / Subterranean Sun.
Eirin's final will be counted as Astronomical Entombing Kaguya's final will be counted as Hourai Jewel Yuyuko's final will be counted as Suizome Perfect Blosom
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Post by: Zodiac on April 14, 2012, 01:41:22 PM
VoWG !
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Post by: Seppo Hovi on April 14, 2012, 01:43:21 PM
Yuyuko's Deflowering. I like butterflies.
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Post by: Zil on April 14, 2012, 01:48:59 PM
I'll have to think about it for a bit VIRTUE OF WIND GOD.
Miko. I can't get enough of casually moving up and down. (Sorry but I really just needed to see what Funen would do.)
It would of course have to be VoWG simply because of how awesomely fun it is. There are other cards that are harder sure but I like my final spells fast (ish) instead of either overly dense, overly clippy or overly confusing.
Yuyuko would also be a great candidate but the version I find awesome is a last word, not a final card.
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 14, 2012, 02:12:13 PM
Miko. I can't get enough of casually moving up and down. (Sorry but I really just needed to see what Funen would do.)
Sorry, but you weren't serious about it. ;) And no, I wouldn't have really done anything.
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Post by: Phlegeth on April 14, 2012, 03:01:34 PM
Virtue of Wind God or Flying Fantastica. I can't decide! :ohdear: I guess I'll follow the crowd and say VoWG
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Post by: Thanuris on April 14, 2012, 03:15:20 PM
Shinki's
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Post by: I have no name on April 14, 2012, 05:32:02 PM
Either Kanako or the Three Fairies.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 14, 2012, 05:54:23 PM
The three fairies count too? Then they would probably tie with VoWG as far as I'm concerned. Such an excellent attack. Or such excellent attacks rather.
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Post by: Naut on April 14, 2012, 06:05:14 PM
People not voting VoWG... What have you all become...
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 14, 2012, 06:39:10 PM
I'd vote Resurrection Butterfly if it counted.
Luna Child's Three Fairies, easily the most menacing thing I've ever seen on Easy, and it's fun. >_> VoWG for runner up.
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Post by: Zetzumarshen on April 14, 2012, 07:08:49 PM
People not voting VoWG... What have you all become...
I'm bored of it.
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Post by: K.B. on April 15, 2012, 12:12:23 AM
VoWG is the best.
Scarlet Gensokyo is my favorite.
I'll like FF more as I play it more and improve. I still get forced to the bottom of the screen and get caught off-guard by shit flying directly up my ass. Which is unpleasant.
Looks like I need to play FW.
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Post by: chirpy13 on April 15, 2012, 12:13:48 AM
VoWG. Casually moving up and down for Miko's final comes as a close second though...
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 15, 2012, 02:35:13 AM
Flying Fantastica, of course. I like it because it tests your ability to read vertically, horizontally, and even behind you all at once.
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Post by: Skyler on April 15, 2012, 03:06:43 PM
Never played MoF, but I like how VoWG looks. Same with Flying Fantastica/Legendary Flying Saucer. I really like facing and watching Scarlet Gensokyo, though. The lines of bullets remind me of Remilia's fate-manipulation and I love the randomness of the thing. I hate memorisation >.>
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 15, 2012, 05:10:44 PM
Oh, it's been time for the new question?
What is your favorite nonspell? :getdown:
My answer: Mokou Rings of Death
(Even if they kill me a bunch.)
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Post by: Zengeku on April 15, 2012, 05:43:16 PM
This is quite a hard one. Non-spells hardly ever stand out for me unless they are really difficult but said non-spells aren't necessarily very fun....
I think I'll have to go with Yoshika. There are of course things like Murasa's 3rd, Orin's 3rd and Byakuren's 2nd that are just awesome but they're all late-game bosses so you kinda expect them to be hard. Yoshika on the other hand is just a Stage 3 boss which usually translates into pathetic non-spells with a chance for some competent spellcards provided that the game is either PCB or UFO. Yoshika's Kunai attacks shatter that trend though. They are all pretty awesome but the final one is probably my favorite.
I'm looking forward to see what other picks people have for this question. It required quite a bit more thought from me than most of these questions. :V
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Post by: Seppo Hovi on April 15, 2012, 05:46:26 PM
The one who answer's Kaguya's 3rd will get growled at by me.
Well, I like several nonspells. Remilia's opener from EoSD is nifty, I always liked it, and most of Remilia anyway. But I don't know if it should be taking the #1 spot. At least the #1 spot from EoSD, let's say. PCB has quite a bit of cool noncards. Namely everything Yuyuko has, sans maybe the streaming ones, which look nifty, while are a bit boring. I always hated Merlin's opener, but it looks cool, I have to admit that. And then we have Yukari and her kunai. How sexy, sexy kunai they are. Oh yes, I like those kunai. Especially the ones that include some dodging, not only streaming. But the streaming ones look cool as well! IN has some nifty stuff, Reimu and Marisa's nonspells were made rather well in my opinion, suiting the charachters in style. Mokou has... fun to dodge noncards, and then some really brutal noncards. But I always liked dodging amulets, no idea why, but yeah. MoF... I don't really know, I don't play it enough. :V SA could be the same, but at least Utsuho has some cool-looking shit. And maybe Orin & Koishi fall into the nifty looking patterns as well. UFO was made with a blargh. I never liked Nazrin's, nor Kogasa's nonspells. I've learned to gehh at Ichirin's noncards, when scoring, and Murasa's raindrops never were made for me. Shou's lasers can GTFO like just now. Byakuren has couple of nice ones, but also has a couple of patterned and too easy noncards. Nue was.... I don't know, weird? She has a lot of different bullet style-noncards, and I never liked most of them. And then we have TD. I had to think a while, but I remember ultra-Mamizou's noncards being HAHAHAHANOPE. Probably nothing from TD. The game was not my thing that much, so I haven't played it enough to tell if some of the nonspells are interesting or not.
And so, I ended up picking some favorites from every game. Or not every, but yeah. I can't really decide here, too many cool noncards to go for.
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Post by: BT on April 15, 2012, 06:22:23 PM
Good question. Kind of fun how "worst nonspells" is a much easier question to answer. :V
Contenders are Remilia's opener (as cliphappy as it is), midboss Alice #2 with the fast blue/green/yellow/red arrows, Yukari's blue/green kunai nonspell, Sanae's opener, Kanako's opener, Koishi's second, Byakuren's third, Nue's third aaaaand that's it.
Winner is... uh, I'm not sure. :ohdear:
I don't know how many of GFW's nonspells apply here. Someone who actually played the game might want to give some input here.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 15, 2012, 06:34:20 PM
I don't know how many of GFW's nonspells apply here. Someone who actually played the game might want to give some input here.
That game has a lot of awesome non-spells too. Sunny has some really awesome ones that spring to mind.
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 15, 2012, 07:15:25 PM
Both of IN boss Marisa's nonspells are fun. I suck at her midboss nonspells, not sure why.
Honourable mention to Ichirin, and Kogasa because they give you a break from her terrifying spell cards. >_>
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Post by: chirpy13 on April 15, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
I guess I have to go with Lily White here. I can't really think of any notable nons though.
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 15, 2012, 08:46:27 PM
Man, this is tougher than I thought it would be, even after thinking it through. I don't think there's one that really stands out at all, so I'm forced to give a few contenders, namely Reisen's second, boss-Orin's third, and boss-Ichirin's second. I'd include any one of Yoshika's nonspells here if they weren't so freakin' short.
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Post by: Star King on April 15, 2012, 09:23:08 PM
Favorite final attack: Scarlet Gensokyo (sue me, I haven't played MoF). I just like the ridiculous difficulty of it, and it just feels so intense compared to stuff like Yuyuko's. Plus I like the name.
Favorite non-spell: This is pretty hard, but I LOVE Sakuya's first and second one. I like attacks where you have to move quickly to avoid getting walled. Remilia and Kaguya openers are also pretty good.
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Post by: Zil on April 15, 2012, 09:44:24 PM
Sakuya's second, Mokou's final, Sanae's first, Orin's second midboss appearence, Shou's first. Seiga's third was spectacular at 90fps, as well as some other things, but I don't count them because that's not the way they normally are.
I'll go with Orin's thing in the middle of stage 4. This was tough to answer.
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Post by: I have no name on April 15, 2012, 09:54:19 PM
Yuyuko's opener.
It's so fun.
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Post by: MMX on April 15, 2012, 09:57:32 PM
I like all Sakuya's nonspells, especially second. They're so funky to dodge.
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Post by: KrackoCloud on April 15, 2012, 09:57:57 PM
Call me weird, but I love Shou's nonspells.
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on April 15, 2012, 11:21:25 PM
I really like all of Yuyuko's nonspells. Even if they take away half of my lives/bombs
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 16, 2012, 12:15:58 AM
Mine is a three-way tie between Midboss Eirin's nonspell (either path really), Yuyuko's knives 'n bubbles, and Patchouli's Non-Directional Lasers (yeah, they're easy, but they're also epic for such an early game).
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Post by: Skyler on April 16, 2012, 03:13:48 PM
I was going to answer with Yuyuko's fourth because it's simple and fun, but then I remembered how much I love Patchouli's Non-Directional Lasers.
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Post by: Zodiac on April 16, 2012, 03:26:54 PM
Kanako's opener. It's really fun to dodge ~!
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Post by: I have no name on April 16, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Now time for a question I've been meaning to ask for a wihle :V
What is your favorite stage portion?
For me, it'd have to be the stage part of GFW extra. It's fun, challenging but the edge can be taken off of everything with some strategy.
Not counting spinoffs, I'd have to go with UFO Stage 4-because the patterns are actually fun, not because of the UFO system (which I still dislike)
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Post by: MMX on April 16, 2012, 03:55:29 PM
Recalls in mind all the stages he played...
Welp. Maybe MoF stage 5. It has a lot of various fun dodging, and nice midboss, but nothing that frustrating like stage 4 or SA stage 5 for example.
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 16, 2012, 04:35:24 PM
Oddly, my favorite stage portion is probably PCB Stage 3 right after the Alice midboss that drops an extra life because you get that Extend and then a point item-based Extend in quick succession. Sometimes, if you time it right, you can get them almost at the exact same time, so the Extend sound effect overlaps itself and sounds weird. I dunno, it's just amusing to me. Also, killing all those fairies afterwards and collecting tons of points at the POC feels good as you watch your score shoot up.
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Post by: Zil on April 16, 2012, 05:13:33 PM
I'll ignore midbosses, since otherwise I think I'd just end up choosing the stage with the best midboss. :V
EoSD stage 5 is good. Assuming you don't abuse the crap out of it, it's all pretty fun dodging. The whole stage is pretty much a watered down Peerless Wind God. I also like MoF stage 4 for similar reasons, though there's a lot of pointless streaming which kind of detracts from it. And then MoF stage 3 is good too...
Tough call, but I'll go with MoF stage 3. Good all around, with no weak points and some interesting danmaku.
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 16, 2012, 05:27:42 PM
SA Stage 5, hands down. Contains some really hard yet fun attacks, along with an interesting theme. Honorable mention to SA Stage 4, while most of it can be memorized, it also has a kickass theme and great visuals.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 16, 2012, 06:23:48 PM
UFO Extra.
Mainly because it's easier than it looks :getdown:
Other than that, I'd probably say PCB Stage 5. It's a nice blend of easy (Red circle bullet fairies) and hard (Streamed bursts among red arrowheads) and also comes with an excellent border max cherry graze milk session at the end.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 16, 2012, 07:01:04 PM
UFO Stage 4. It is probably the hardest stage in which the bullets are moving at a reasonable pace. Most other challenging stages are either too slow to be interesting (SA Stage 5 for example) or not really that hard once you've gotten the approach down (SA Stage 4) but this one's different. It actually feels like I'm doing something for quite a lot of it. It's not perfect but at least there aren't any of those painful waiting sections.
MoF Stage 4 is also a candidate for my favorite but that's mainly because of the thing after Momiji because it is so fucking cool when you dodge it right.
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 16, 2012, 07:52:16 PM
You've seen the worthwhile part. (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6586/touhoustartmenu.png)
...where is IN :V
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Post by: I have no name on April 17, 2012, 04:56:42 PM
(one day later, making it actually daily :D ) What is the best final spell of an extra stage? For the purposes of this question, Yukari and Mokou have 2 final cards. (Boundary of Life and Death, Danmaku Bounded Field or Hourai Doll, Imperishable Shooting)
For me, I have to go with Grudge Bow (Nue's final). The random dodging is fun without resorting to walls, even if I can't read the last phase consistently yet. Honorable Mention goes to Descent of Izuna Gongen for being a challenge I can consistently overcome.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 17, 2012, 05:03:36 PM
That would probably have to be Grudge Bow. It's quite a fun attack. It also comes with the added bonus of not requiring you to subject your ears to earrape while you are playing it. QED and BoLaD are candidates too but them being positioned at the end of pretty boring boss fights makes me unable to properly take them into account.
EX Marisa's final attack also looks pretty solid but I haven't ever faced that one without Ice so I can't say how much fun it is. Formless' video of it made it look pretty cool though.
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 17, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
I haven't made it to Grudge Bow yet, but it looks very fun. However, I will have to say that Boundary of Life and Death is probably my favorite even if it can be cheesed with a bit of skill and luck. Adding on new bullets as she gets weaker is an awesome idea that should be used more often.
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Post by: Thanuris on April 17, 2012, 05:43:36 PM
Grudge Bow
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Post by: Zil on April 17, 2012, 05:44:33 PM
Ripples of 495 Years. Nue's is also fun, but less unique.
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: Jaimers on April 17, 2012, 06:22:29 PM
The Best (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0FkEZXVqjk)
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Post by: Skyler on April 17, 2012, 07:09:33 PM
Ripples of 495 years. Subterranean Rose looks really nice as well, but I have yet to play SA.
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Post by: MMX on April 17, 2012, 07:24:09 PM
Full Moon Pompokolin looks awesome, though it's almost as pathetic as Mishaguji-Sama.
I vote for Q.E.D. cause it's just as hard as it should be (haven't tried SA and UFO extras so far). And one more reply to previous question. I find Mamizou's 2 last nonspells pretty amazing :3
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 17, 2012, 08:10:27 PM
Fairy Destruction Ray, it's random, fun dodging but not the dense, clippy randomness that Grudge Bow is.
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Post by: Momijibot on April 17, 2012, 08:15:18 PM
The Best (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0FkEZXVqjk)
Title: Re: Daily Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part...2
Post by: chirpy13 on April 18, 2012, 06:41:30 AM
Grudge Bow was cool, but I give mine to Izuna Gongen/BoLaD
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Post by: Phlegeth on April 18, 2012, 06:58:11 AM
I've yet to make it to any Extra bosses outside Mokou and Swackers and haven't made it to any of their finals. But I've watched others and "Full Moon Pompokolin" looks crazy, like the rest of Mami's spells. So it gets my vote.
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Post by: cactu on April 18, 2012, 10:13:44 PM
Boundary of Life and Death is badass.
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Post by: I have no name on April 19, 2012, 12:36:10 AM
What has your "best" Touhou choke been? Embodiment of Scarlet Failure fits the criteria.
For me, it's either dieing twice to Mishaguji-sama in an otherwise perfect run of the stage or failing a MarisaB (UFO) extra run...by dying to the laser in the first phase of the survival, then dying to the first phase of Grudge Bow. A few more seconds would have been a clear...
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 19, 2012, 12:41:26 AM
double ko-ing flying fantastica because byakuren exploding means that i don't have to dodge anymore
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 19, 2012, 01:01:48 AM
Either dying to Mishaguji-sama as Suwako explodes on my first MoF extra clear (would have captured it otherwise) or dying to Full Moon Pompokolin as Mamizou explodes on my first TD extra clear (would have captured it otherwise)
I don't like those circular waves. :(
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Post by: Ridley 64 on April 19, 2012, 01:28:11 AM
This is from late December, back when I was trying to clear Normal. I'm worried the same thing's going to happen on Hard :ohdear:
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 19, 2012, 01:42:13 AM
Getting sucked up into Subterranean Sun on Normal Mode with ReimuB. Somehow while I was staying still to avoid the spewing white bullets and shooting at the same time, I failed to notice that Utsuho was about to increase her gravitation pull. The switch happened and I got yanked upwards faster than I thought and kablam! Last life lost to gravity.
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 19, 2012, 02:10:05 AM
I specifically remember a choke I had when trying to perfect MoF Stage 4, on Normal I believe. I get through the fight unscathed, Aya's already exploding, then I die on what appears to be the very last frame I could possibly die on. There's not much else I've done that can quite match that, even in terms of full-game runs (I don't really have any memorable game overs on final cards).
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Post by: Thanuris on April 19, 2012, 02:49:04 AM
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Post by: Random on April 19, 2012, 02:50:24 AM
A UFO that was worth ~300 mil escaping at the last second in stage 5.
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Post by: BT on April 19, 2012, 06:17:01 AM
Pretty much what Funen did but with a Perfect UFO Normal Stage 6.
Choke on Flying Fantastica's last bullet, after she exploded. :V
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Post by: Zengeku on April 19, 2012, 07:25:26 AM
Easy. A perfect run of Mountain of Faith Lunatic, except for one death on Momiji. Then I hit Sanae, one of the easiest bosses in the series and bam! 5 lives lost. Game over to Kanako.
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Post by: Zil on April 19, 2012, 07:43:42 AM
Something that just happened to me: no bombs run of EoSD, 4 deaths to Remilia's second nonspell. I laughed my ass off.
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Post by: tomko on April 19, 2012, 10:57:02 AM
Probably my first UFO Hard run where I made it to Byakuren for the first time with decent resources (2/3 or something like that). Died twice to Magic Butterfly and gameovered at banana lasers.
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Post by: MMX on April 19, 2012, 10:18:13 PM
Oh i see "dying on last boss exploding" is a very common issue. How about loosing a TD lunatic 1CC by being hit a moment before Newborn Divine Spirit ends, finishing Miko by trance agony and exploding right after her :qq:
Also perfecting the whole SA Stage 5 normal except Orin's easy 2nd nonspell. Eww..
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Post by: Momijibot on April 20, 2012, 01:06:56 AM
Got to stage 6 on Touhou 9 on hard on first playthrough, lose two whole lives to Sakuya despite being previously untouched.
FFS
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Post by: I have no name on April 20, 2012, 01:13:27 AM
What is your favorite non-official Touhou danmaku game? This includes Danmakufu scripts, fangames, and Danmakufu fangames.
This is a hard one for me. I'll probably have an answer later.
Totally keeping this daily again
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 20, 2012, 01:17:40 AM
It's been a day ~
Its time for the most hilarious questi-
No, i got ninja'd awwwww
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Post by: Zil on April 20, 2012, 01:29:57 AM
Magical Singular Day. Danmakufu hates me so I haven't played many.
Rain of Blood over Elysium or Mansion of Darkness ~ Save the Mind
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Post by: I have no name on April 20, 2012, 01:33:37 AM
Sorry Chisou, but how about making it double question day or something? If not, then, well, there's the next one.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 20, 2012, 01:44:23 AM
It'll be tomorrow's question <3
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Post by: Thanuris on April 20, 2012, 01:48:44 AM
Concealed the Conclusion and Juuni Jumon
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 20, 2012, 01:56:26 AM
Juuni Jumon is pretty much the only one I've played ::)
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Post by: I have no name on April 20, 2012, 02:06:20 AM
I'm probably going to go with Luminous Dream.
...
Which reminds me, I need to test that hard mode.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 20, 2012, 02:08:01 AM
Although... Luminous Dream's music is original, isn't it? I like it's music :D
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 20, 2012, 02:19:50 AM
Concealed the Conclusion and Koishi Hell (meme-tastic).
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 20, 2012, 02:37:44 AM
Phantasm Romance. I also haven't played many fangames, so limited choices here.
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Post by: Ranko Hoshino on April 20, 2012, 03:09:12 AM
Suwako's Jumping Shooting Game :3
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Post by: MMX on April 20, 2012, 09:18:33 AM
Phantasmagoria Trues was like the only "serious" danmakufu script i've played. And though i failed horribly at it, i've enjoyed it a lot. Wait a minute.. How could i forget about Marine Benefit - the best unofficial touhou fangame i've ever played? Or it's just so awesome, everyone counts it on par with official games? :V
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Post by: Zengeku on April 20, 2012, 10:19:49 AM
This is obviously the best one. I haven't played it though since my laptop sucks.
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on April 24, 2012, 11:05:11 PM
I don't play many fan games, so I'm just gonna stick with Concealed the Conclusion. I like its story, patterns, difficulty, music... Pretty much everything about it.
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Post by: I have no name on April 24, 2012, 11:09:11 PM
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on April 24, 2012, 11:24:51 PM
My favorite Stage Name is The Tempestuous Second Sun (SA Stage 6) Or Hellfires of Times Past (SA Stage 5)
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Post by: Star King on April 25, 2012, 12:18:16 AM
Is there a list anywhere
For now, off the top of my head I'll say "Rain of Blood over Elysium", so dramatic :o
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Post by: Zil on April 25, 2012, 12:30:58 AM
Different Sky ~ For Lunatic Gamers
You can find them on the wiki.
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 25, 2012, 01:33:03 AM
For those who don't want to track down the titles on the wiki, here they all are:
TH 02: STORY OF EASTERN WONDERLAND * Stage 01: "紫野 ~ Purple Dawn" * Stage 02: "雷獣 ~ Midnight Rainstorm" * Stage 03: "紅夢 ~ Scarlet Dream" * Stage 04: "霊魔 ~ Revengeful Ghost" * STage 05: "封魔 ~ Eastern Recorded Sealing of a Demon and ..."
TH 04: LOTUS LAND STORY R Stage 01: "幻野 ~ Phantom Land" M Stage 01: "幻夜 ~ Phantom Night" * Stage 02: "枯渇 (Famine) ~ Lake of Blood" * Stage 03: "冥幽 ~ Darkness" * Stage 04: "夢幻 ~ Dream of Frail Girl" * Stage 05: "幻想 ~ Phantasmagoria" * Stage 06: "追撃 ~ Raspberry Trap" * Stage EX: "すばらしい君に静かな瞑りを ~ Puckish Angel"
TH 05: MYSTIC SQUARE * Stage 01: "万物神気 (All The Elements) ~ Materialization" * Stage 02: "魔空間 (Demon Dimension) ~ Border Space" * Stage 03: "魔界 (Makai) ~ Devil's World" * Stage 04: "凍てつく世界で (In the Frozen World) ~ Ice Dream" * Stage 05: "最後の審判 (The Final Judgment) ~ Judgement Day" * Stage 06: "神戦 (Divine War) ~ Dream Battle" * Stage EX: "絵本のとびら開いて (Open the Door to the Picture Book) ~ Open Sesame"
TH 06: EMBODIMENT OF SCARLET DEVIL * Stage 01: "Scroll of the Fantasy Night ~ Mystic Flier" * Stage 02: "Lake Elf ~ Water Magus" * Stage 03: "Scarlet Border ~ Scarlet Land" * Stage 04: "Mansion of Darkness ~ Save the Mind" * Stage 05: "An Elegant Servant for the Scarlet Moon" * Stage 06: "Rain of Blood over Elysium" * Stage EX: "Touhou Scarlet Devil Lunatic ~ Sister of Scarlet"
TH 07: PERFECT CHERRY BLOSSOM * Stage 01: "The Spring of Silvery Snow" * Stage 02: "Black Cat in the Village of Spirits" * Stage 03: "One Night in the Settlement of the Dolls" * Stage 04: "The Cherry Blossom Barrier from above the Clouds" * Stage 05: "Spirit Battle on the Staircase of Hakugyokurou" * Stage 06: "A Maiden's Remains in the Other World" * Stage EX: "Summon of the Youkai's Summon" * Stage PH: "The Border between Youkai and Humans"
TH 08: IMPERISHABLE NIGHT * Stage 01: "Where the Fireflies Fly" * Stage 02: "The Path Where Humans Vanish" * Stage 03: "Nostalgic Reminiscence of the History-Eater" * Stage 04A: "Legendary Paradise" * Stage 04B: "Underneath the Soil Containing the Mana/Magic Power" * Stage 05: "A Pure Cage in the Filthy World" * Stage 06A: "The Orb in the Night Sky Hiding the Princess" * Stage 06B: "Five Impossible Requests" * Stage EX: "Hourai Doll"
TH 10: MOUNTAIN OF FAITH * Stage 01: "Myriads of Autumn Gods" * Stage 02: "Scars of the Gods" * Stage 03: "The Flawless Fortress" * Stage 04: "The Mountain Fortress" * Stage 05: "A Wind Blows on the Sacred Mountain" * Stage 06: "Ah, the God of Wind on the Grounds of the Divine Lake" * Stage EX: "A Merry Japanese God"
TH 11: SUBTERRANEAN ANIMISM * Stage 01: "The Wind Blowing From the Thankless Land" * Stage 02: "The Deep Road Connecting the Past and the Above Ground World" * Stage 03: "The Snowy Forgotten Former Capital" * Stage 04: "Those Terrifying Eyes Nobody Loves" * Stage 05: "Hellfires of Times Past" * Stage 06: "The Tempestuous Second Sun" * Stage EX: "The Lovely Visitor from Hell"
TH 12: UNDEFINED FANTASTIC OBJECT * Stage 01: "A Ship's Shadow at the Spring Harbor" * Stage 02: "The One-eyed Monster Lurking in the Clouds" * Stage 03: "The High-speed Ruins and the Giant" * Stage 04: "The Unfortunate Captain of the Holy Palanquin" * Stage 05: "The Red and Black Seal of the Underworld" * Stage 06: "The Nun Who Overcame the Eight Sufferings" * Stage EX: "Unidentified Flying Fantastic Object"
TH 13: TEN DESIRES * Stage 01: "Enjoyment, Even in Death" * Stage 02: "The Youkai Before the Gate, Reading an Unlearnable Sutra " * Stage 03: "A Straight Line Paradise" * Stage 04: "Accelerating Luxury" * Stage 05: "Blood of Those with Hidden Power" * Stage 06: "Hold Harmony Sacred" * Stage EX: "Raise the Flag of Rebellion!"
My personal favorite would be "The Lovely Visitor From Hell". It sounds happy but creepy.
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Post by: Phlegeth on April 25, 2012, 01:41:03 AM
Rain of Blood over Elysium, for the longest time I thought that was the name of the stage music.
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 25, 2012, 02:01:22 AM
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Post by: K.B. on April 25, 2012, 02:14:54 AM
Frightening eyes no one loves.
Hence fenol.
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 25, 2012, 02:16:16 AM
Now that I think about it, Rain of Blood over Elysium is pretty badass.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 25, 2012, 02:16:59 AM
I forgot about Lovely Visitor from Hell. I do like that one, but my favorite is still Tempestuous Second Sun. Some runners-up include Rain of Blood over Elysium and Wind from the Thankless Land. :V
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Post by: Thanuris on April 25, 2012, 02:55:04 AM
For those who don't want to track down the titles on the wiki, here they all are:
Thanks :V
I think I will have to go with A Pure Cage in the Filthy World.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 25, 2012, 09:52:53 PM
It's only been 21 hours? Oh well :getdown:
What is your favorite survival card?
My answer is probably Nightmare of Heiankyou. Because it's simultaneously easy and a clusterfuck :]
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 25, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
Virtue of Wind God Mamizou Danmaku in Ten Transformations.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on April 25, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
>Favorite stage title
Raise the Flag of Rebellion! /o/ I never pay attention to stage titles, but this is one that I saw and went "hellz yeah!"
Honorable mention goes to Devil's くorld. 8) Seriously, does Japanese unicode not support Ws or something? A beta version of Sonic the Hedgehog had the same problem.
>Favorite survival card
Native God - The Red Frog in the Fourth Year of the Houei Era. Even though I often die to it, it's so nuts I can't help but love it.
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Post by: BT on April 25, 2012, 10:11:01 PM
ATWTBN, PWG, Red Frog and Nightmare are probably my only contenders here.
Marisa's survival cards (both from IN and GFW) look kind of fun but I never got to try them out so iunno.
I'd choose ATWTBN.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 25, 2012, 10:31:19 PM
What kind of stupid question is that? Peerless Wind God of course. It's a spell that really understands how it is and throws 15 seconds of intense dodging at you instead of basically any other survival spell in this series that seemingly, almost without exception, forgets that it's supposed to be challenging until the last few seconds.
Other worthwhile mentions is Kaguya's final last spell, i think Rising World. That's also a quite cool attack.
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Post by: I have no name on April 25, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
Rising World. It was so impossible and then I could suddenly do it with some consistency.
That and it's an epic finish to any lunatic 1cc ^_^
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Post by: Zengeku on April 25, 2012, 10:36:04 PM
Provided that you don't get hit by the first phase that is. :V
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Post by: I have no name on April 25, 2012, 10:38:21 PM
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Post by: Seppo Hovi on April 26, 2012, 08:02:49 AM
Saigyouji Flawless Nirvava. It was made to be timed out!
From actual cards, I always liked the versatility of Hourai Elixir, so I'm giving my vote to it. Honorable mention to Rising World.
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Post by: tomko on April 26, 2012, 08:45:46 AM
Hourai Elixir. I also find grazing those circles in Imperishable Shooting really satisfying
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on April 26, 2012, 09:10:00 PM
Rising world. Because it's so colorful at the end :V
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Post by: Phlegeth on April 26, 2012, 11:27:50 PM
Mamizou's, it looks like a pain in the ass to do, but it's so fun to watch.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on April 28, 2012, 04:09:24 PM
What is your favorite Extra Stage theme?
I absolutely adore Charming Domination, but Last Remote is also a favorite <3 And yours...?
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Post by: BT on April 28, 2012, 04:18:59 PM
Centennial Festival for Magical Girls, Charming Domination, Extend Ash and Youkai Back Shrine Road. One of those four.
Well, seeing how I managed to play Nue's arrow card around ~1000 times and not get bored of the music, I guess the evidence speaks for itself. The latter it is.
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on April 28, 2012, 04:35:34 PM
Last Remote. No contest here for me.
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Post by: Phlegeth on April 28, 2012, 04:36:51 PM
I like Tomorrow Will Be Special and UFO Romance in the Night Sky
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Post by: Yao-Kun on April 28, 2012, 05:07:13 PM
Hmm, I like Futatsuiwa From Sado, Extend Ash, and Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke
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Post by: Star King on April 28, 2012, 05:12:30 PM
Gahh, sorry wrong catch phrase :V Only one then, Extend Ash.
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Post by: ふねん1 on April 28, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Same as before, three-way tie between MoF, SA, and UFO for me.
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Post by: Chuckolator on April 28, 2012, 06:26:35 PM
None of them are really favourites, if I had to choose I guess Charming Domination?
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Post by: I have no name on April 28, 2012, 07:02:22 PM
Ruse Rain
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on April 28, 2012, 07:28:02 PM
A tie between Extend Ash ~ Hourai Victim and Last Remote, even though they both remind me of dying a lot during the Extra Stages.
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Post by: Thanuris on April 28, 2012, 07:29:16 PM
GFW Extra theme, no contest
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Post by: Karisa on April 28, 2012, 07:56:40 PM
Ruse Rain, Charming Domination, or UFO Romance in the Night Sky. Not sure which.
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Post by: Zengeku on April 28, 2012, 09:28:27 PM
Loose Rain obviously!!!
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Post by: Zil on April 28, 2012, 09:30:23 PM
My answer remains the same. Extra Love baby.
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Post by: Buu on April 28, 2012, 09:49:03 PM
Youkai Back Shrine Road and UFO Romance in the Night Sky. I love both equally. <3
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Post by: Esper on April 29, 2012, 02:24:25 AM
"Favorite Final Extra Stage spell?" I can't decide between ExAlice's attack and Descent of Izuna Gongen, but there's also the Quarantine, Exit Denial of 495 years (Yes, that's what I translate "QED" as)
"What was your best Touhou fuckup so far?" When I was trying to 1cc UFO on Normal, I lost everything at Flying Fantastica. When I first got to 30% Reflowering on Normal, I died on the first wave. When I first (And so far, only) got to Grudge Bow, I lost on the second phase with two bombs. BUT MOST OF FUCKING ALL The worst one I've ever had When I tried to 1cc IN Lunatic, I entered Astronomical Entombing with no resources because I deathbombed twice on Apollo 13. I cried for an hour afterward and even hearing AzuriteReaction rant and rave about people on Counter-Strike did not help ease the pain. I cleared Lunatic four days later. One person was watching me live when I failed.
"What is your favorite non-official Touhou game?" In this case, games. Koishi Hell 1 and 2, Concealed the Conclusion, The real Touhou 13 (Marine Benefit), and Remidoki.
"What is your favorite Stage Title?" SA Stage 6: "The Tempestuous Second Sun" MoF Stage Ex: "A Merry Japanese God" MoF Stage 5: "A Wind Blows on the Sacred Mountain" EoSD Stage 4: "Mansion of Darkness ~ Save the Mind" MS Stage Ex: "Open the Door to the Picture Book" LLS Stage 6: "Chase ~ Raspberry Trap"
"What is your favorite Survival card?" Hourai Elixir and Rising World are my top picks.
"What is your favorite Extra Stage theme?" Ruse Rain Ruse Rain Ruse Rain Ruse Rain Ruse Rain Ruse Rain Ruse Rain Ruse Rain Ruse- Brick!
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Post by: Esper on May 01, 2012, 12:47:34 AM
Since nobody's posted here for two days just about, I get to make two questions!
Who is your favorite Stage 6 boss?
Basically, what stage 6 boss do you like the most in the series. Self-explanatory. For PoFV it's Stage 9 and for PoDD I don't know. For GFW it's the Three Mischievous Fairies, for StB I think Momiji was the last character, Hatate for DS.
Who is your favorite Extra Stage boss?
Same as above but with extra bosses.
These have likely already been asked but I'm too lazy to dig through a thread that's got more than five pages of content.
My favorite Stage 6 boss is Yuuka Kazami because she's fun as hell but are also as refined as can be. Yuuka is the hardest fight in the series hands-down, both 5 and 6.
Honorable mentions are Shinki, Yuyuko, Eirin, and Kanako for being awesome in your own ways.
My favorite Extra boss is Suwako Moriya because even though I have the most experience with her cards, they never got boring because some always fuck me up like a ragdoll, the ones being Red Frog of Houei Era 4, Froggy Braves the Elements, and Suwa War, and some are just plain fun, like Party Start for having a good pattern and looking awesome. It looks like someone's dancing and throwing confetti (Deadly confetti) at people and having a good time.
Honorable mentions are Koishi for the extreme abstractness of her spells, ExAlice for being stolen from by Sanae her fun yet simple attacks, and Gengetsu for having the most unfitting Extra Boss theme ever (Seriously, Crescent Dream does NOT sound like Extra stage music, I thought her theme was Magic Shop of Raspberry at first!)
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Post by: I have no name on May 01, 2012, 12:48:47 AM
Kanako, Suwako.
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 01, 2012, 01:13:59 AM
6 boss: Byakuren, because great spell cards (Devil's Recitation, LFS mostly) and Emotional Skyscraper. Honorable mention to Utsuho for ☢CAUTION☢. Extra boss: Nue, fun spell cards and Heian Alien. >_>
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Post by: ふねん1 on May 01, 2012, 01:25:42 AM
Odds are good anyone would be repeating questions at this point. Donut was pretty thorough.
Utsuho is my favorite final boss, no question there. As for Extra boss, well technically Marisa was one in GFW so I'd say her. :V
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on May 01, 2012, 01:59:40 AM
Favorite Stage 6 Boss: Byakuren, of course. Fantastic music, challenging spell cards, and interesting plot line background. Runner up: Yuyuko for her tragic awesomeness. Favorite Extra Boss: Yukari. She's enigmatic and I feel like she has been influential on so many events throughout Gensokyo's history. Also good music and a nice step up from Ran. Runner up: Koishi.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on May 01, 2012, 02:01:52 AM
@Funen Even so far as stage titles? :V
Favorite final: Byakuren. I haven't 1D1B any other final boss >: 3 Although Utsuho for awesomeness comes close.
Favorite extra: Ran She's easy enough for me to do consistently, and is the one I find the most fun to fight.
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on May 01, 2012, 02:02:07 AM
Yuyuko, and a tie between Suwako and Koishi
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Post by: Random on May 01, 2012, 02:03:27 AM
Byakuren, with Yuyuko as a runner up. Mokou, with Nue as a runner up.
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 01, 2012, 03:27:46 AM
Stage 6: Really this is a no-brainer for me. YUYUKO OFC :3 Followed by Eirin, Byakuren, Miko, and Remilia, probably in that order. Extra: A very close tie between Koishi vs. Flandre. Mokou comes in as a close third.
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Post by: Zil on May 01, 2012, 06:31:52 AM
First you say "stage 6 boss," then you say "final boss." Well, my favorite stage 6 boss is Kanako. My favorite final boss is Eiki.
My favorite EX Boss is easily Marisa.
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Post by: Zengeku on May 01, 2012, 07:52:16 AM
Stage 6 boss? Byakuren because she is the only really hard final boss in the series for me that isn't based on what i'd like to think of being thoroughly cheap and RNG-dependant (not necessarily but my god, i don't like you Kaguya) or being an EoSD boss because what I remember from playing the game back in 2010 was that most of Remi's stuff really isn't that hard until you hit her last two spells but I won't touch them with a 10-foot pole as long as they have those bubbles.
Honourable mention goes to the Three Fairies because they are so cool to fight.
Extra boss? Nue. Both her stage and boss fight are pretty well done. As any extra stage basically lacks the difficulty to challenge who's been through all the lunatics and have even ventured into the mysterious beyond, I've decided to rate this based on other things. While my favorite music department would go to either MoF or GFW, I don't like those stages that much because they are boring. Instead, Nue's stage is short, the midboss is kinda cool (though Nue in TD tops her) and the boss has a lot of cool spells involving UFO's where I can point blank the 2nd spell to death insanely fast! ;) Plus, if DS is any indication, Nue likes to play videogames.
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Post by: Zodiac on May 01, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
6th stage boss : Yuyuko Extra stage boss : Marisa :3
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Post by: Esper on May 01, 2012, 10:28:56 AM
First you say "stage 6 boss," then you say "final boss." Well, my favorite stage 6 boss is Kanako. My favorite final boss is Eiki.
I say that because they mean the same thing in most cases and it felt dull to say "stage six boss" two times one after the other. Let me just edit details in.
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Post by: Zengeku on May 01, 2012, 10:50:05 AM
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Post by: Piranha on May 01, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
Favorite survival card: Hourai Elixir. Second is Reflowering.
Favorite Extra Stage theme: Ruse Rain. Honorary mention to Last Remote and Youkai Back Shrine Road.
Favorite Stage 6 boss: Still Yuyuko. Most fun boss definitely. Though Byakuren and Kanako are close behind.
Favorite Extra Stage boss: Between the ones I tried (Mokou, Flandre, Ran), Flandre is my favorite.
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Post by: BT on May 01, 2012, 05:33:40 PM
There is a disturbing lack of Remilia in this thread. Sure Byakuren has some extra-challenging stuff but personally I'm more of an atmosphere and "not bomb everything" sort of guy. Remilia's fight does both better.
Best Extra boss is actually a hard one, but after some consideration -- Flandre.
EoSD! EoSD! EoSD!
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Post by: K.B. on May 01, 2012, 11:54:01 PM
I am Yuuka's favorite.
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Post by: I have no name on May 01, 2012, 11:57:05 PM
What is your least favorite shot type? this goes across ALL of the games. I know this is best, but hey, negative questions spur discussion too.
I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE* Sakuya solo in Imperishable Night. So useless.
*Kefka quote ::)
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Post by: Zil on May 02, 2012, 12:05:14 AM
Aya. PoFV is no fun when you play as her (against the AI, at least).
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on May 02, 2012, 12:12:01 AM
SA's ReimuB.
You can't get much worse homing than that, but TD's homing shots come close.
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Post by: Thanuris on May 02, 2012, 12:14:24 AM
Sanae in TD
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Post by: Esper on May 02, 2012, 12:15:05 AM
None in particular but here's what I can tell you I hate.
TD Youmu
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS JUNYA
MoF MarisaA because I never liked trailing options.
MoF MarisaC because I'm not used to unfocusing just to reposition my shot.
SA ReimuB Because these homing shots are worse than PCB ReimuA which I also hate because it's so weak. Also, SA ReimuB's ability is worthless.
IN Sakuya Solo because spread =/= power.
LLS Laser Marisa because it's useless.
Nothing from MS because I love that game as much as LLS.
Offense type in SoEW (Right hand side) because it's so fucking slow and the bomb is short.
Defense type in SoEW (Left) because bosses take FOREVER.
Tewi in PoFV because of her stupid focus field
Komachi in PoFV because her focus field is a double-edged sword with the end pointing away being rusty.
MB SanaeC because can't see shit captain
MB ReimuB because I hate trailing options, which I think these are. I know it's one of the types, so correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by: ARF on May 02, 2012, 12:15:39 AM
It's tricky to decide between Marisa A from MoF, ReimuB from SA and MarisaB from UFO.
ReimuB has the least interesting ability in SA (MarisaA and C both have cool bombs). But at least the Satori fight is... easy.
The only good thing about MarisaA in MoF is that cool trail of familiars which can produce some visual effects.
Marisa B in UFO... bleh. Firing downwards is theoretically pretty nice, but I'm not really feeling it. Maybe if UFO had more top of the screen spell cards (does it have any good ones).
I'll have to say MarisaB in UFO.
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 02, 2012, 12:17:02 AM
Sakuya solo from IN... y u do this to me
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Post by: Zil on May 02, 2012, 12:18:39 AM
Stronger than the other Marisa. Not to mention the piercing actually comes in handy. :wat:
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 02, 2012, 12:19:54 AM
Tough choice between TD Youmu for no damage while focused and Sakuya IN for just plain no damage.
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Post by: Esper on May 02, 2012, 12:20:17 AM
I don't like cock-eyed aiming against bosses because it can also screw you over. You'll think you're directly below a boss when you're not and something will hit you that normally wouldn't.
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Post by: Naut on May 02, 2012, 12:37:19 AM
Sakuya in PoFV, both playing as and against.
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Post by: ふねん1 on May 02, 2012, 12:51:19 AM
I haven't even tried a good deal of the shot types. Out of those I have, SA MarisaA. Seriously, the way her focused and unfocused shots are organized makes no sense to me. Honorable mention to TD Youmu for being a bit too gimmicky at its core. I just cannot use it, especially since I'm still too used to the GFW charging speed (TD Youmu's is longer, and it keeps messing me up greatly).
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on May 02, 2012, 01:09:20 AM
I have a tie with TD Youmu and Marine Benefit's Sanae Sun shot. Youmu I can understand, in theory, but I'm just not as good with it as the other types. But Sanae... seriously? You might as well just not watch the screen while you play.
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Post by: K.B. on May 02, 2012, 02:48:35 AM
Homing anything.
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Post by: Random on May 02, 2012, 02:53:57 AM
I love timing out spell cards with Sakuya solo
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Post by: Phlegeth on May 02, 2012, 03:00:26 AM
Sanae with Suwako in UFO. Not a big fan of spread shots in general.
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Post by: Zengeku on May 02, 2012, 09:21:37 AM
"Anyone who isn't Reimu or Sanae in UFO" :V
Just any of the Sanae shots from Marine Benefit. Huh, those doesn't count? Then I'll probably pick MarisaA from SA because of linear shot while moving unfocused and spread shot while being focused. It's pretty much the opposite of what you'd expect and what makes sense so I don't like them for that. Double that by having any Marisa shot in SA hating me with a fiery passion because of the game's fixation on tight gaps in almost all the attacks. Add to that a terribly unimpressive bomb and we've got a problem, though cool bombs were never quite Touhou's thing.
I also don't like Ghost Team, Magic Team or Scarlet Team but that's not because they necessarily suck. That's just because they are like SA!MarisaA, too weak or too bad at adapting to unexpected situations. :V Oh and MarisaA from MoF sucks too.
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Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 02, 2012, 11:09:27 AM
Youmu IN.
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Post by: Zodiac on May 02, 2012, 11:16:23 AM
Sanae TD.
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Post by: Desu_Cake on May 02, 2012, 11:23:59 AM
TD Youmu. I just can't figure out how to use it effectively. T_T
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Post by: Buu on May 02, 2012, 12:07:30 PM
I haven't even tried a good deal of the shot types. Out of those I have, SA MarisaA. Seriously, the way her focused and unfocused shots are organized makes no sense to me. Honorable mention to TD Youmu for being a bit too gimmicky at its core. I just cannot use it, especially since I'm still too used to the GFW charging speed (TD Youmu's is longer, and it keeps messing me up greatly).
It actually does, kinda.
Unfocused you're just devastating about everything up front. Just get close to any boss with full power and unleash all you've got, you'll deplete the bosses' health in no time. Focused you get to cover a huge range (entire screen with full power) - which comes very handy in levels - but the drawback is that at bosses you'll have to suck it. Even with full power you can damage most bosses rather well if you unfocus a lot from the bottom of the screen; which isn't very easy if a lot is going on though.
Were you to invert the shots, you'd get a very overpowered shottype raping about everything that comes your way. So you gotta balance it out a bit. Now with eight bombs stocked at once, you have quite the chances to avoid dying - if you're good at the stage portions, then you have the perfect insurance. ;)
As for the worst shottype, I'd go with TD Sanae. I see absolutely nothing in her that stands out in particular. TD Youmu on the contrary is great and fun to use because of her unique ability and destructive power if you're an aggressive player. Honorable mentions go to SA ReimuB and C for having terrible shottypes (I can't for the life of me use those); actually anything that isn't ReimuAccumulateExtraShotsAllShootingStraightUp or MarisaLasers are terrible in my eyes. SanaeB in UFO is a rather neat type too, but for actual boss fights she really has to step her game up with the low damage she's doing.
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Post by: Piranha on May 02, 2012, 12:18:27 PM
I have tried all the shottypes, and IN Sakuya solo is by far the worst. No damage, no good amount of time orbs, not even a decent spreadshot.
Alice's shot is pretty bad too, but at least makes some damage if you are exactly under the bosses. SA MarisaA because the inverted shots fuck me up everytime. And TD Sanae because booooooring.
I'm fine with every other shot type, but those four... ::)
Youmu's shot types are pretty strange, but not necessarily bad.
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Post by: ふねん1 on May 02, 2012, 12:44:35 PM
Unfocused you're just devastating about everything up front. Just get close to any boss with full power and unleash all you've got, you'll deplete the bosses' health in no time. Focused you get to cover a huge range (entire screen with full power) - which comes very handy in levels - but the drawback is that at bosses you'll have to suck it. Even with full power you can damage most bosses rather well if you unfocus a lot from the bottom of the screen; which isn't very easy if a lot is going on though.
Were you to invert the shots, you'd get a very overpowered shottype raping about everything that comes your way. So you gotta balance it out a bit. Now with eight bombs stocked at once, you have quite the chances to avoid dying - if you're good at the stage portions, then you have the perfect insurance. ;)
Unfocused MarisaA at full Power is slightly weaker than ReimuA on average, because let's face it, times when you'd be able to get the outer two streams to hit for any appreciable amount of time are extremely rare.
The last sentence of your first paragraph is kind of making my argument for me. This isn't as much of a problem on lower difficulties, but on modes like Lunatic there's always a lot going on. Lunatic in particular has the most consistently dense danmaku in the series - in fact it's dense enough that it makes Marisa and her larger hitbox remarkably close to unusable (at least, more so than in other games, since it's obviously still possible to clear the game with her; point is that it this combination makes things significantly harder than they need to be).
MarisaA's bombs only last half the time of almost everyone else's bombs, so in terms of invincibility time you need to use 2 bombs to match those of others. Problem is, the way the Power items are revalued, it's actually harder to regain the equivalent number of bombs stated above - she has twice the Power capacity, but small Power items are not twice as valuable as before (they're only 66% larger), and large ones don't change at all IIRC.
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Post by: Buu on May 02, 2012, 01:09:53 PM
Well, you're right that she's rather useless on higher modes (at least for me - though on Hard she can still be killer if you can use her properly) but then again, any Touhou on Lunatic would be a chore with her due to the nature of her larger hitbox. If you practice enough with her, you can get some nice replays; she just plays very differently from Reimu and you gotta think of a different route for the stages. Especially stage 3, 4 and 5 can be trivialized with her strong shot.
This is nowhere near as good as I can do with Reimu, but that is due to the fact that Marisa's hitbox throws me off easily. After being used to Reimu so much, you're counting in forgivable hitboxes which unfortunately isn't quite the case with Mahou-chan. That and the fact that I barely use her. And no, I'm not looking for excuses here. ^^;
It comes down to playstyle. I'm sure there are people out there who have practiced so much with her that they could beat Lunatic on a whim. You gotta weigh your options and act accordingly. :P
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Post by: Star King on May 02, 2012, 06:31:27 PM
Favorite Stage 6 Boss: Byakuren (sorry my beloved Remilia :()
Favorite Extra Boss: Mokou
Least Favorite Shot-type: IN Sakuya. If only because of how much she drags down my favorite shot-type, Remilia. A team of something like Marisa and Remilia would be incredible, though of course it wouldn't make much sense.
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Post by: BT on May 02, 2012, 06:42:45 PM
This is a weird question since most people don't play with the shottypes they consider bad so they can't tell which one is the worst.
If I had to choose one of them I'd probably jump on the SA ReimuB train I suppose.
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Post by: Esper on May 02, 2012, 07:39:55 PM
I've determined my hated shot types and only one is from before.
#2: UFO MarisaB because it's somehow weaker than PCB ReimuA.
#1: TD Youmu because in shmups you shoot, not slash like an idiot that brings a knife to a gun fight.
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Post by: I have no name on May 02, 2012, 08:08:55 PM
What is your favorite scene is Double Spoiler Wait, that was asked already? In that case: What scene is Double Spoiler is your least favorite? Yeah...if you guys were reading the rage thread a few months back you know my answer already... But I'll withhold my answer for now.
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 02, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
Least favourite? EX-7, because Reimu kick. 6-3 is a close second.
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Post by: ARF on May 02, 2012, 08:28:38 PM
6-7 is pretty lame.
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Post by: Esper on May 02, 2012, 08:36:04 PM
Let's see... I hate...
All of Shou's stages, Septentrion, and 9-1
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on May 02, 2012, 08:59:44 PM
I REALLY REALLY REALLY HATED Scene 6-5, but after a few dozen times I discovered a safespot in a corner.
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Post by: Thanuris on May 02, 2012, 10:05:39 PM
Iku stars a shit
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Post by: I have no name on May 02, 2012, 10:08:48 PM
I got 2 numbers for you all.
9-7
Curse you Satori.
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 03, 2012, 12:31:41 AM
I'd have to go with scenes from Double Spoiler Extra Stage... Especially with Reimu EX-7
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Post by: Zil on May 03, 2012, 04:15:57 AM
I kind of hate everything with Iku in it, though 6-7 is the only one I can think of that doesn't seem to invlove any input from the player at all, so I'll go with that one.
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Post by: Zengeku on May 03, 2012, 08:31:40 AM
Aww but Zil, Iku's attacks are so good :( - Especially 10-4 is yummy and delicious.
Well, my heart was put on the verge of bursting with anger and irritation and far worse; tedium, when that little Koishi started with that 9-4 and kept at it until I finally beat it 997 shots later. Some people apparently got this one real quick but for some reason Koishi had it in for me big time and kept killing me at the final shot.
I've played through this game three times and once clearing as much as I could/felt like on Ultra and every time, i skipped 9-4 because it sucks!
There's also the one with Yuugi firing that thick stream of bullets in a stream that you can only survive if you shoot at the exact right moment. Idk, the game has some scenes that really blow but these two stand out the most.
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Post by: chirpy13 on May 03, 2012, 05:56:38 PM
What kind of stupid question is that? Peerless Wind God of course.
Favorite Ex-theme - SoEW. SA, UFO, and FW are all great too, but I really love that PC98 music. Favorite S6 boss - Kanako. Byakuren's cool too, but Kanako isn't nearly as irritating. Favorite Ex-boss - Probably Alice, since she's less memotrash than most other Ex bosses. Gengetsu's pretty cool too though. Least favorite shot type - TD Youmu. That focus sword charge thing is really dumb. It was incredibly disappointing, since I was really looking forward to playing with Youmu again :( Least favorite DS scene - All of them. I don't really like the photo games.
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Post by: ふねん1 on May 03, 2012, 06:57:09 PM
Jumping on the Scene 9-7 bandwagon (as if I wasn't on that since the first time I played it). But yeah, I'm not fond of DS, so lots of other cards would fit here too.
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Post by: Esper on May 03, 2012, 07:20:59 PM
23 hours but whatever, I've seen a lot of lesser cutoffs.
What is your favorite game in the series when it comes to separate aspects?
Let me clarify the aspects: BGM, story, spells, and general feel.
As far as BGM goes, my favorite is Mystic Square because it uses just the right instruments, the music fits the bosses perfectly, and it really tells you that you're in a fight and not at a fancy dinner party concert.
Story, my favorite is Undefined Fantastic Object because it goes away from the cliche "All protagonists think about other people and never their own thoughts and wants" and it has no plot holes that I can really detect.
Spells, my favorite is Mystic Square because they're just right in means of difficulty. Nothing too hard for a boss and nothing too easy.
General feel, my favorite is a tie between Mystic Square and Lotus Land Story because they both share the qualities of charming background music and fun battles.
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Post by: Thanuris on May 03, 2012, 07:21:31 PM
Shot types: UFO > MS = IN
Gameplay: MS = UFO
BGM: MS > GFW
Story: ??? (probably SA)
Spells: DS > UFO > IN
Replayability: UFO > MS > EoSD
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Post by: Star King on May 03, 2012, 07:38:03 PM
BGM: IN Story: UFO Spells: ...EoSD? General Feel: ...IN?
All of these are incredibly hard to decide on lol
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Post by: BT on May 03, 2012, 07:40:18 PM
Story - EoSD
The simplest stories are the best stories. None of these stories that require some kind of deep understanding of what's going on, or that require you to dig deep. Shit happens, you fix it, no complicated background whatsoever that make the story inapproachable.
Music - ?_?
By process of elimination: Not TD, not UFO, not PCB. Everything else is good in its own way. SA is the king of atmospheric music, IN is the king of catchy music, EoSD is a mix between the two but is somehow worse than both, but not by much. MoF is extremely solid at some parts so I'd put one of MoF/SA/IN up there.
Gameplay - SA
UFO and SA both have a wide array of challenging patterns but the UFO concept is unbearably counterproductive to this, making you focus on other stuff instead, just for the sake of survival. EoSD is second place for overall solid stages and bosses. IN and MoF would also be contenders if they weren't cheese-able via bombspam. (SA actually doesn't kneel over and die to a bomb or two!)
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Post by: Elysia on May 03, 2012, 07:42:44 PM
Shot types: Leaning towards PCB, for actually having a competent shot type that isn't needle Reimu.
Gameplay: MoF
BGM: SA or PCB. Can't choose between them.
Story: What's that? :V
Replayability: Probably Marine Benefit.
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 03, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
BGM: TD. It's got a lot of my favourites, and its place on the popularity poll is disgraceful. >_>
Story: I'm going to say TD solely because I tend to like characters who have good themes, which TD certainly has a lot of. See username.
Spells: GFW for a gimmick done right. On a normal game, probably UFO because they're hard yet fun at the same time, which Patchouli/Eirin/Utsuho/a bunch of others don't seem to get.
General feel: UFO. TD's music is better on its own, but UFO's works better with the actual gameplay, and music makes up pretty much the entire feel for me.
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Post by: I have no name on May 03, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
Gameplay: GFW --> MoF --> IN --> everything else > UFO -------> TD Music: MoF --> SA --> IN -----> everything else Replayability: IN = MoF --> everything else Scoring: MoF -----> IN ----------> everything else ---> UFO ---------------> TD
Obvious favorites right :V
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Post by: Zil on May 03, 2012, 09:01:31 PM
Shot types: PoFV Stages: UFO Bosses/Spells: UFO, SA, GFW Scoring: StB/DS Overall Gameplay: PoDD Music: EoSD Story/Characters: EoSD Appearence: GFW Replayability: PoFV/PoDD General Feel?: PoDD. It's the most fun, so I guess that counts.
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Post by: Zengeku on May 03, 2012, 09:12:13 PM
Presenting the ultimate truth. Note: These opinions have been comtemplated for eons and have been approved of by the higher powers and the courts of justice so they are true and cannot be denied by people saying truth. Any person willing to deny these truths are traitors to ZUNs empire and will by full authority of the law be persecuted and forced to play Resurrection of Heavens Liquor.
No bias has been involved in answering this question.
Shot types: UFO Stages: UFO Bosses/Spells: UFO Scoring: MoF Overall Gameplay: UFO Music: UFO Story/Characters: UFO Appearence: UFO Replayability: UFO General Feel?: THE FUCK*S DATS SUPPOSE TO MEAN!?
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Post by: ふねん1 on May 03, 2012, 09:38:10 PM
BGM: SA Story: SA Spellcards: MoF General feel: If by this you mean "atmosphere", then MoF.
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 03, 2012, 09:42:37 PM
BGM: PCB > SA > UFO Characters: PCB > IN > EoSD Story: IN solely Overall gameplay: GFW > LLS > IN Spell: MoF > IN > UFO General feeling: PCB > PoFV > HRtP
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Post by: Phlegeth on May 03, 2012, 10:03:23 PM
BGM - Mountain of Faith, (Gensokyo the Gods Loved, Princess Inada, Suwa Foughten Field, Faith is for The Transient, ect) I love the whole soundtrack. Story - UFO Spells - MoF or UFO, they both have really pretty spells. Then again, 10D has Mamizou who has the best spells ever. General Feel - Eh? PCB, I guess. That's probably the easiest to jump back into after not playing for a long time.
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Post by: K.B. on May 03, 2012, 10:46:29 PM
EoSD, PoFV, EoSD, EoSD. Evaluating 6-12 only.
Reasons: -strongest compositions and a near-complete absence of zunpets (I can deal with the other instrument samples) -ethics and metaphysics and stuff (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11500.msg799678/topicseen.html#msg799678) -it feels more open than any other game in the series (micrododging is open-ended rather than confining) and it's the only game in which I can always see the bullets (aside from Illusional Misdirection but that's easy) -it wins in most categories (though if we're talking about atmosphere, then that goes to SA)
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Post by: Random on May 03, 2012, 10:55:55 PM
Shot types: IN (<3 Alice solo) Stages: IN Spells: IN Scoring: UFO Gameplay: PoFV Music: IN Story: UFO Appearance: UFO Replayability: PoFV General Feel: (wat) I'll just say IN.
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Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 04, 2012, 02:23:10 AM
BGM -- IN Story -- IN Spells -- UFO General feel -- IN
Reasons :
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on May 04, 2012, 04:24:22 AM
Musical Aspect: IN (most of the music is very evocative, such as 1969/1970) Scoring Aspect: MoF (scoring doesn't require extreme risk (SA) or a few last-stage explosions (UFO)) Story Aspect: UFO (I can't help but actually like the youkai cast and feel they were doing the right thing) Overall Feel Aspect: PCB (the journey to Saigyouji Ayakashi is an epic one)
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Post by: Seppo Hovi on May 04, 2012, 07:26:53 AM
Music-wise, I'm a bit unsure. I like almost every games' BGM a lot, but I think SA and PCB stand out as the two of my favourite ones. From those two, it could be any, but I think I'll pick PCB.
Scoring? I like scoring in several games, notable being PCB (I'm bad at it), IN (I'm somewhat bad at it), and UFO (I'm really bad at it). From these games, every scoring system has it's own unique trait. UFO has the possibility to pick either rescources or score, and you have to balance between those two, especially if you're not so strong when it comes to the survival side. IN has the phantom gauge and timepoint farming system, and I really like milking time for some reason. PCB has the borders. Border timing and spell card milking and damn, hard stuff man. I'd be in a trouble with border timing alone, but milking Yuyuko in addition to that? Aw hell, this game's hard. But it's fun, and the scoring system is indeed good. However, I think I'll pick IN, since I like it the most for some reason, even tho' I'm focusing on UFO at the moment.
Spell Cards? Both UFO and PCB have some strong ones in my opinion. PCB has a lot of scoring spell cards, and every card needs to be done in a reallly really badass way if you're aiming for good score. UFO has interesting Spell Cards, and has you moving around the screen on several cases, which I really like. I'd want to say PCB for Yukari alone, since I like her battle a lot, but I think I'll have to pick UFO for the overall cards.
Story? Uhhh. I did like PCB's plotline, and SA's storymode is fun to play every time when I'm not scoring. However, since I've mainly been scoring lately, SA has become a bit forgotten for me. But I don't think I'll pick either of these here. I'll pick IN. While I originally did not like the backstory that much, and the lunarian hazzle confused me, playing Magic Team easy made me realize how cute the dialogue and the endings were. Mokou's dialogue was also partially comedy gold, but it still didn't win Yukari's. But yeah, I'm picking IN because of subtext!
Shot types? I.... I like PCB's SakuyaB, IN's Youmu (even tho' it's hard to pilot her) and Magic Team, SA's MarisaB and..... UFO's MarisaA. Yes, I have no idea why I've been clinging to UFO MarisaA lately, since scoring with her is.... hard. I'm far from consistency in everything, but the game is enjoyable when I play her. I've been thinking if I should swap to some easier shot, but I want to try MarisaA more a bit. I like her, so I'm picking her here. I think I've been contaminated by Naut.
General feel? I... what's that? The mood? Well, in my opinion the theme always fits the games' and such. UFO is maybe not as tragic and not all the games are as serious business as others', but I still have to say, that every single game has rather good general feel around them in my opinion. It's really hard to pick anything here, so I'm letting this one fall empty.
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Post by: Esper on May 04, 2012, 09:33:12 AM
When I said general feel, I meant the effect of every quality in one game counted competitively against the others.
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Post by: Esper on May 04, 2012, 07:33:31 PM
Come on guys, post more, I had to double post just to get a daily question in and have it noticed!
What is your favorite arrange of any song in the Touhou Project, or song remixed in Touhou theme?
I don't know if that really counts as a question, but it makes sense doesn't it?
My favorites are Bad Apple MAXION's Sleeping Terror vocal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCT8on9GOMU), (Even though this is arguable to count) Marisa Stole the Precious Night of Nights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofVykEJFmA), Horseplay in the Shopping District (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQG1lzNdr5w&feature=related) (FamilyMart remixed for Touhou), and RouzenSatorin/Drop's Satori Maiden ~ Third Eye vocal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L323bNXgcgQ)
That oughta suffice for a break from talk about the games themselves.
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Post by: Star King on May 04, 2012, 08:08:38 PM
Gonna go with the one everyone expects, the DARK PHOENiX arrange of Plain Asia
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 04, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
Evening Star remixed for SWR. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3xMfbu6MzU) Yes, that counts.
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Post by: Phlegeth on May 04, 2012, 08:23:04 PM
Floating Cloud's Because Princess Is Scolding
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on May 04, 2012, 09:10:11 PM
My favorite arrange is Sound Sepher's Grimoire of Alice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WfWmUtboq8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WfWmUtboq8))
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Post by: K.B. on May 04, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
Arrangement, not arrange.
This time I'll go with Graduating (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPD7B-bL4os&hd=1) by Maurits "Zen" Cornelis. spctrm's "a field of clouds" still edges it, I think, but not by much.
I'm gonna get kick-banned from pofv for this, I know it.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on May 04, 2012, 10:32:22 PM
Dammit Esu, who's running this show?
I kid. But I did want to run the thread for a while :qq:
I remember a Liz Triangle mix of Nazrin's theme that I really really loved.
Either that, or Demetori's metal mix of Suwa Foughten Field.
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Post by: nicholashin on May 05, 2012, 01:08:57 AM
Finally a question that I know the answer: Dark Phoenix's Plain Asia It's the first arrange I listen to and still really love it till now :) Of course I mistake it to be original. I was like "huh? That's it?" when I listen to the ZUN's original :ohdear: So yeah, both the memorable value and its quality :D
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Post by: chirpy13 on May 05, 2012, 05:18:06 AM
Gameplay aspects BGM: MS Story: The one where Reimu beats up lolis and drinks tea. Spells: MoF General Feel: PCB
Arranges - Can't really answer this one. I haven't listened to any Touhou arranges in a really long time, and even back then I wasn't really into them that much.
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Post by: Naut on May 05, 2012, 05:45:11 AM
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Post by: orinrin on May 05, 2012, 07:09:45 AM
BGM: MoF Story: Wot? Spells: MoF/UFO General Feel: MoF/UFO
Arrangement: Too many favorites to choose from so I'll just leave this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dETiqlQNlCE) here (may or may not be representative of my general taste in music).
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Post by: Ridley 64 on May 05, 2012, 07:17:57 AM
Arrangements: "Graveryard in lake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnIVdjKARdA)" "Lunar Clock ~ Luna Dial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq9CGWNKYl8)" "Love Coloured Master Spark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtJi-aPNpWo)" "Satori Maiden ~ 3rd Eye (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4h5ozxtmVA)" "Dark Road (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8CjbMuZPmA)"
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 06, 2012, 05:24:36 AM
It's been almost 36 hours, might as well do one myself.
What is your favourite theme from Subterranean Animism?
SA has a pretty good soundtrack, the stage themes are particularly good IMO. If I had to pick one, I'd pick Corpse Voyage, an uplifting theme for a torturous boss. Lullaby of Deserted Hell is a close second.
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Post by: chirpy13 on May 06, 2012, 05:31:53 AM
Heartfelt Fancy, but only when Orin's "Nyaaaa~" is in it :3. Without the nyan, then I'm with you on Corpse Voyage, followed by Nuclear Fusion.
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Post by: orinrin on May 06, 2012, 05:34:28 AM
Haigoku Lullaby. Also happens to be my favorite theme in the entire series.
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Post by: Phlegeth on May 06, 2012, 06:23:38 AM
Nuclear Fusion or Walking the Streets of a Former Hell
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Post by: Zil on May 06, 2012, 06:25:54 AM
Third Eye by a significant margin.
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Post by: AnonymousPondScum on May 06, 2012, 07:17:09 AM
Close tie between Nuclear Fusion and Hartmann's Youkai Girl.
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 06, 2012, 08:43:12 AM
Close tie between Nuclear Fusion and Hartmann's Youkai Girl.
Same here, but if I was forced to choose only one, I'll stick with Nuclear Fusion.
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Post by: Ridley 64 on May 06, 2012, 08:46:44 AM
Hellfire Mantle or Hartmann's Youkai Girl
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Post by: Thanuris on May 06, 2012, 08:53:11 AM
Satori Maiden ~ Third Eye
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Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 06, 2012, 09:28:06 AM
Last Remote.
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Post by: BT on May 06, 2012, 10:33:59 AM
All of them are above average aaaaaa
The stage 2 theme, Heartfelt Fancy, Third Eye, Lullaby and Nuclear Fusion are all worthy.
I'll go with Third Eye though because I've found myself humming the tune way too often lately.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on May 06, 2012, 10:54:40 AM
Walking the Streets of a Former Hell is my favorite, followed by Lullaby of Deserted Hell and Last Remote.
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on May 06, 2012, 11:57:21 AM
A tie between Lullaby of a Deserted Hell and Hartmann's Youkai Girl
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Post by: Esper on May 06, 2012, 12:41:17 PM
Hartmann's Youkai Girl.
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Post by: Piranha on May 06, 2012, 12:43:42 PM
BGM: PCB feels like a long journey driven by the themes, and I like every single one of them. When I listen to the themes outside of the game, it's always the whole soundtracks, not single themes(provided I have enough time ;) ). SA and MoF are close behind. Story: UFO Spells: MoF General Feel: PCB
Concerning arrangements, these two are always on my mind: TAMUSIC - Fires of Hokkai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3UdZv_H8dI&feature=related) and this Remix of Flandres theme. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOIg7W9Bf8s&feature=related)
And for my favorite SA theme: The Bridge People No Longer Cross, together with Last Remote and 3rd Eye.
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on May 06, 2012, 02:07:56 PM
I have far too many favorite arrangements to even list them here. I'll be using all of them in future videos, though, so stay tuned for that.
As far as my favorite SA song goes... I have to say Nuclear Fusion simply for the sense of impending doom that it conveys. However, I do love Green-Eyed Jealousy, Satori Maiden ~ 3rd Eye, and Last Remote a lot too!
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Post by: Elysia on May 06, 2012, 02:13:42 PM
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Post by: MMX on May 06, 2012, 04:37:46 PM
Heartfelt Fancy (didn't i answered the same to some recent question? :wat: )
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Post by: Star King on May 06, 2012, 08:05:23 PM
The contenders are 3rd Eye, Last Remote, and Nuclear Fusion... I'll go with Nuclear Fusion.
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Post by: ExPorygon on May 06, 2012, 09:36:49 PM
I'll go with Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion, with honorable mentions to Satori Maiden ~ 3rd Eye and Hartmann's Youkai Girl.
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Post by: K.B. on May 06, 2012, 09:40:39 PM
fenol.
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Post by: I have no name on May 06, 2012, 09:43:26 PM
One of Last Remote, hartmann's Youkai Girl or Nuclear Fusion. Or Walking the Streets of a Former Hell.
If that was Mountain of Faith though this list would be non-existent but they would be so many runner-ups :V
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Post by: Ranko Hoshino on May 07, 2012, 12:05:43 AM
either Satori Maiden ~ Third Eye, Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion, or Hartmann's Youkai Girl
I also like Green-Eyed Jealousy and Heartfelt Fancy along with the rest of the themes too.
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Post by: Esper on May 07, 2012, 12:09:56 AM
Okay, changing my favorite Touhou arrangement to Desire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj-0SCTqdCs).
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Post by: Esper on May 07, 2012, 07:19:01 PM
Guys post in here more I'm running out of questions and I hate double posting but I just want this thread to be alive because it's fun to see your opinions
What is your favorite Character Title?
See here (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Characters/Titles).
I.E. if you said (RECENT) Reimu Hakurei's title, you would mean "Shrine Maiden of Paradise", Marisa Kirisame's is "Ordinary Magician", et cetera.
Basically, when you first see a character in speech, I mean the set of words below their displayed name.
My favorite title for awesome is PoFV Yuuka's title, Flower Master of the Four Seasons.
My favorite title for funny is SA Orin's title, Hell's Traffic Accident.
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Post by: ARF on May 07, 2012, 07:30:29 PM
I always liked the Epitome of Native Gods.
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Post by: I have no name on May 07, 2012, 07:37:02 PM
donut asked this one too :V Hell's Traffic Accident is funny.
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 07, 2012, 07:45:42 PM
Pitiable Illegally Dumped Object
Hell's Traffic Accident is good too, as well as Aya and Hatate's titles for each other in DS. >_>
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on May 07, 2012, 08:07:54 PM
I have a few favorites:
Youmu: Half-Human Half-Yuurei and Half-Baked (PoFV) - this makes her seem like a stoner Orin: Hell's Traffic Accident (SA, SoPm) - How can you not like this? Nue: Old Youkai #1 (TD) - .... wut???
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 07, 2012, 08:12:25 PM
Youmu: Half-Human Half-Yuurei and Half-Baked (PoFV) - this makes her seem like a stoner
Well it's no more "Half-Human Half-Yuurei and Half-Baked". This misleading translation has been corrected some time ago to "Human half of the Half-human Half-ghost" in the PoFV page for characters on the wiki.
Yuyuko's title from SWR (Bourei of Flawless Immaculate Beauty) sounds pretty cool, so I'd go for that, and most of the titles from DS are interesting XD
Also Hell's traffic accident ftw
EDIT: Hang in there Ace, I've a good topic I wanted to ask you guys too lol.
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Post by: ふねん1 on May 07, 2012, 08:40:43 PM
Hell's Traffic Accident.
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Post by: Elysia on May 07, 2012, 08:53:13 PM
Nagging Helpful Lecture
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on May 07, 2012, 10:03:25 PM
I have 2: Hell's Traffic Accident Nagging Helpful Lecture
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Post by: Esper on May 07, 2012, 10:10:03 PM
Adding Nagging Helpful Lecture to my list of favorites because I took off my limit of one.
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Post by: Zil on May 07, 2012, 11:58:18 PM
Wicked Hermit Passing through Walls.
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Post by: AnonymousPondScum on May 08, 2012, 12:33:18 AM
Nagging Helpful Lecture (Yamaxanadu from Shoot the Bullet). :V
Fabricating Newspaper Reporter (Ayayayayaya from Double Spoiler)
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Post by: Ranko Hoshino on May 08, 2012, 03:44:19 AM
Nagging Helpful Lecture and Hell's Traffic Accident are pretty good ones. :V
Koishi's "The Closed Eyes of Love" is a nifty title too
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on May 08, 2012, 03:56:19 AM
Hell's Traffic Accident, The Closed Eyes of Love, Pitiable Illegally Dumped Object, Troubled Forgotten Lost Item...
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Post by: nicholashin on May 08, 2012, 09:36:46 AM
Favourite: The strongest fairy Old Youkai #1 Hell's Traffic Accident The Unmoving Great Library Interesting: The Big Wheel That Guards and is Guarded Nagging Helpful Lecture Half-grown up of the Half-human Half-ghost
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 08, 2012, 06:25:23 PM
seems like we're getting fewer replies, and we're close to 24 hours.
What is the stage with the best background?
I would go for Final stage of MoF. The lake in the Moriya Shrine looks pretty cool at night.
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Post by: Phlegeth on May 08, 2012, 06:28:56 PM
Definitely MoF Stage 3
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Post by: Elysia on May 08, 2012, 06:31:40 PM
IN FinalA.
The way it changes with every nonspell is just :*
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Post by: BT on May 08, 2012, 06:38:49 PM
I give up.
How do you people evernotice backgrounds?
I can recall three different backgrounds at best, and they're not even all stages.
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Post by: Thanuris on May 08, 2012, 06:47:23 PM
IN FinalA is the best
MS Ex-Alice is the worst, no contest
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Post by: Esper on May 08, 2012, 06:58:47 PM
From what I can remember, I liked SA Stage 4 the most because of the sheer arcane feel to it. It makes you feel as if you are friends with royalty.
PCB Stage 6 for the feeling of walking through the Cherry Field of the Dead. The feelings of getting to fight a controller of death and the beauty of the cherry blossoms are just so appealing to me.
Why is it so short-lived?!
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Post by: MMX on May 08, 2012, 07:19:13 PM
Again there's a question been already asked recently. And again i answer like SA stage 3, UFO stage 6, TD stage 4 or something.
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 08, 2012, 07:58:12 PM
Again there's a question been already asked recently.
Why do I not remember this question being asked during the current iteration of this topic? I must be missing something if that's the case, especially since I searched both threads trying to find it.
MoF Stage 3 is my answer. The autumn colors, the rocky shoreline, the flowing river - everything is a sight to behold.
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Post by: Zil on May 08, 2012, 10:59:09 PM
There was a question about spell backgrounds, but I don't think this one was asked.
I'll say UFO Extra, but it's not like I can think of everything at the moment.
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Post by: Zodiac on May 08, 2012, 11:03:38 PM
PCB Stage 6.
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Post by: K.B. on May 09, 2012, 12:40:35 AM
Because the colors never bothered me. I guess unlike most people I can pick bright orange from yellow and vice versa.
It's certainly nice to be able to. 8)
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on May 09, 2012, 10:49:21 AM
UFO Stage 5, 6, SA Stage 3, TD Stage 6 and pretty much every background from MoF.
It's so hard to chose only one, they're all really awesome in my opinion.
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Post by: Elysia on May 09, 2012, 10:35:09 PM
So it's been 24 hours since the last reply, and I don't think I've seen this question asked yet...
What is your favorite music from Touhou fangames?
I'll keep it to just two:
Seven Flowers of the Deep Sea ~ Forgotten Benefit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7iJtVY3cA0), Mikoto Yaobi's theme from Marine Benefit.
And The Kappa Way as Said ~ One-way Accelerator (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DRVMAGPwpI), Mitori's theme from the fanmade SA Phantasm.
EDIT: And I misread the last post's time, thought it was 6 PM, not 6 AM. Clearly I am a complete derp. :V
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:59 PM
By fangames you're not limiting it only to danmakufu games? If so, then I'd easily choose the arrange of Higan Retour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGMZ9Wr9nFQ) from The Genius of Sappheiros made by Strawberry Bose. Dunno if I have a favorite music from danmakufu games though.
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Post by: Esper on May 09, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
The Butterfly of Isaac the Traveller, Kanpukugu
Otohime
xxxx's theme from Marine Benefit.
Also, The Kappa Way as Said ~ One Way Accellerator (http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch/?v=swGUz8isYgE&feature=related).
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Post by: I have no name on May 09, 2012, 11:10:01 PM
Either Awakening Wolf's Instinct (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MooDWBIGxnw) (MoF phantasm) or the Bloodstained Seal boss theme (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9T4lv9XGi6g) from Labyrinth of Touhou.
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Post by: orinrin on May 09, 2012, 11:25:24 PM
Leaf ponders the flower, flower ponders the leaf (http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch?v=mTO5ztF4KSY) (Touhou 11 Phantasm Stage theme).
This song's trumpet sequences are so epic, and fun to whistle too.
This is pretty great.
GoS spoils you with decent music and I can't choose the best one from there.
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Post by: Ranko Hoshino on May 10, 2012, 01:12:23 AM
I'll go with The Butterfly of Isaac the Traveler too. Suwako's Jumping Shooting Game also uses a pretty neat version of Bell of Avici ~ Infinite Nightmare for the Extra Boss.
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Post by: Phlegeth on May 10, 2012, 02:01:23 AM
Celluloid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbGHTe978YY) from Labyrinth of Touhou. It's one of my favorite random encounter musics in any game.
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Post by: Thanuris on May 10, 2012, 02:12:56 AM
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Post by: Shizzo on May 10, 2012, 02:14:23 AM
Probably This video's boss theme (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16865651), although it isn't the most paced song when compared to other touhous, I really loved how it goes! Nevertheless I also loved the entire
Sadako
battle.
Apparently this video is nonetheless a fanmade 10 Desires extra, I can't really say for sure. Someone with Japanese knowledge will probably know better than me.
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Post by: Zil on May 10, 2012, 05:43:33 AM
I'm thinking of this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Dl68Onu-A) from Sengoku Gensokyo.
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Post by: Piranha on May 10, 2012, 06:30:13 AM
Does this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcixxFWR5Mk&feature=related) count? The stage theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFf4B24DfOQ) is also pretty good. They are both from the fanmade TD Phantasm stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDmO1ZuoDGw&feature=related). I'm a huge fan of Kasen, so I still hope she will appear in one of the next games. :derp:
I'm barely playing any fangames, except New Super Marisa Land. Too busy with the main series. :V
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Post by: Zengeku on May 10, 2012, 06:46:21 AM
That one from MoF Phantasm. I can't think of anything else but the fangames sometimes have very good music, sometimes better than ZUN's so there's bound to be some that I'm missing out on. Just look at the Koumajou Densetsu games for example.
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Post by: Seppo Hovi on May 10, 2012, 07:03:40 AM
Juuni Jumon final boss theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t3y29tIFno)
No contest.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on May 10, 2012, 01:29:39 PM
The Butterfly of Isaac the Traveler. Totally.
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Post by: Yao-Kun on May 10, 2012, 02:07:59 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLBf27n7_QU) I really love this boss theme.
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Post by: MaStErSpArK94 on May 10, 2012, 04:22:03 PM
My favorites: The Kappa Way as Said ~ One-way Accelerator (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swGUz8isYgE&feature=related) - Mitori's theme; Could a Mermaid Dream of Being a Human? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KHgtv0nOcE) - Megumi Yaobi's theme from Marine Benefit; Banquet of 200 Nautical Miles ~ Prayed Feast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mve6Q2saelQ&feature=plcp) - Stage 5 theme from Marine Benefit;
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on May 10, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
G-Free ~ Final Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osDEp_09ju0) and its sister song, G-Free ~ Ultimate Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osDEp_09ju0) from Concealed the Conclusion. Yeah, they're pretty much both remix/mashup of old themes, but I still like them.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on May 11, 2012, 10:36:48 PM
This isn't a "best" question, but
How do you prefer to handle Taboo: "Maze of Love"?
I dodge it the stupid way every time and end up dying because lol blue bullets. I've only tried it the proper way once and it took forever and I died anyway because those blue bullets caught up to me somehow.
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 11, 2012, 11:52:52 PM
I've captured it once, I don't need to try anymore. Bomb.
I suppose I should point out that I haven't really practiced it since before I was good enough to beat her. >_>
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Post by: Random on May 12, 2012, 12:44:17 AM
Proper way.
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Post by: I have no name on May 12, 2012, 01:52:22 AM
circles circles circles easy modo
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Post by: Zil on May 12, 2012, 02:04:23 AM
The proper way. Same for BoWaP, Orin's opener, etc.
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Post by: Esper on May 12, 2012, 02:09:28 AM
Circles and circles and marukyus and easy modo and pichuu~n and circles
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on May 12, 2012, 03:24:55 AM
Honestly, most of the time I circle it once and then just bomb. I don't do the bottom-of-the-screen capture technique ever because I always barely clip something by the end.
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 12, 2012, 05:35:13 AM
I'm running around in circles!
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Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 12, 2012, 06:02:40 AM
Never again I'll touch EoSD Extra.
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Post by: Elysia on May 12, 2012, 08:04:44 AM
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Post by: Karisa on May 12, 2012, 09:08:12 AM
I've only captured it by circling around it. I think staying at the bottom of the screen and bombing once was a pretty consistent way of not dying on it when I was trying to clear the stage for the first time, though.
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Post by: MMX on May 12, 2012, 12:18:09 PM
How do you prefer to handle Taboo: "Maze of Love"?
I always do it like a man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRQaYAAxWMQ), but fail most of the time. I mean i still can't do it the proper way, so i try to micrododge it from the bottom. If i use Reimu B - it could be solved with 2 bombs without dying. Otherwise it usually takes one life.
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Post by: BT on May 12, 2012, 12:29:09 PM
There is no chance you can't circle around her. Do it once and you can do it every time. Just try.
Micrododging looks rather easy to pull off with the hitbox patch. <_<
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Post by: Zengeku on May 12, 2012, 01:14:26 PM
Unexpected questions. Points for that.
In the rare event that I play EoSD Extra, I micrododge at the bottom like a boss because that is faster.
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Post by: Piranha on May 12, 2012, 03:03:13 PM
Running around Flan. Now that I've captured it, I don't feel the need to not bomb it, though...
Tried microdoging, but that totally killed me every time.
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Post by: Random on May 12, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
the best way to handle maze of love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZwOuw5DNpg#t=7m58s)
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Post by: chirpy13 on May 12, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
Fangame music - TD Phantasm's Kasen theme Maze of Love - From the top with ReimuA's homing shot from the bottom.
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Post by: Esper on May 12, 2012, 10:51:26 PM
What is your favorite Stage 4 Fight?
This can include various fangames as well as specific fights like which form of Satori in Subterranean Animism or Yuki, Mai, or Yuki and Mai together in Mystic Square.
My favorite is Yuki Solo (The Red one) from Mystic Square, seconded by Aya Shameimaru.
Special Mentions are the Yakumo Trio from Concealed the Conclusion, both of the IN Stage 4 fights, and Seiga NyanNyan.
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Post by: Random on May 12, 2012, 10:55:32 PM
Reimu with Alice solo
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Post by: Thanuris on May 12, 2012, 11:08:06 PM
Patchouli
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Post by: AnonymousPondScum on May 12, 2012, 11:14:47 PM
Murasa MOTHERCHUCKING Minamitsu,
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Post by: Elysia on May 12, 2012, 11:42:42 PM
ayayayayayayayayaya
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Post by: Phlegeth on May 12, 2012, 11:52:31 PM
Marisa in IN.
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 13, 2012, 12:29:51 AM
Huh, I was planning to ask almost the exact same question today, just a different stage. >_>
See username.
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Post by: I have no name on May 13, 2012, 12:42:50 AM
Stage 4 bosses...I hate Patchy's nonspells, the Prismrivers are kind of annoying but cool, Reimu I hate the nonspells, same for Marisa, Aya is pretty fun, Satori has neat spells most of the time, Murasa has DAT ANCHOR, and...
This :) Seriously. I like fighting that couple a lot. It's fun and not too hard.
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Post by: Suwakos Hat on May 13, 2012, 02:20:14 AM
IN - Marisa Kirisame She has awesome patterns and is good for grazing.
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Post by: チソウ タイゼン on May 13, 2012, 03:44:54 AM
Kasumi Sindou
I honestly love to fight Reimu. So chaotic :getdown:
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 13, 2012, 04:32:05 AM
PCB Merlin's solo seems interesting.
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Post by: Zil on May 13, 2012, 05:19:31 AM
Now this has been asked 3 times. Again my answer is different.
Patchouli.
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Post by: Zengeku on May 13, 2012, 11:27:35 AM
I think I'm going to have to roll with Aya for this one. Almost the entire battle is entertaining and quite difficult as well. Sure she has her easy attacks but it's still nothing as retarded as Satori's non-recollection attacks.
Murasa get's close to beating Aya because two of Murasa's spellcards are really cool and the third non-spell is awesome as well. However, she is crippled severely by having every attack before Sinkable Vortex being bad and the final timeout spell being dragged out and tedious.
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Post by: Piranha on May 13, 2012, 12:12:44 PM
Patchouli.
But I have to say, Reimu us definitely more fun than Marisa.
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Post by: Skyler on May 13, 2012, 02:42:45 PM
Patchouli or Reimu. I find amulets fun to dodge and Reimu's cards are generally challenging but not difficult, and Patchouli's cards are mostly the same. I'll probably have to go with Reimu on this one though, because there are some cards of Patchouli's that are just too luck-based for me.
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Post by: BT on May 13, 2012, 07:14:43 PM
Patchouli -> Aya -> Satori -> IN Reimu
This question was asked, like, a month ago.
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Post by: Makai Butterfly on May 13, 2012, 07:29:58 PM
Patchouli and Satori are a tie for me. I think that Satori is the more "inventive" boss because her mind-reading gimmick makes her customized spells seem very natural. There's not really a good reason why Patchouli couldn't have just used the same set of spellcards every time, though. I can only assume that she figures that Marisa has more trouble against water/wood/metal based stuff while Reimu has trouble against fire/wind/earth stuff. The rest are pretty negligible for me. Prismriver Sisters are a pain no matter the route. Reimu/Marisa is either nearly-pure patterns or nearly-pure chaos. Aya doesn't feel all that special aside from a short survival card (which Murasa also has in longer duration). And Seiga is like Yuki/Mai except with prettier graphics.
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Post by: Esper on May 13, 2012, 08:49:47 PM
What is your favorite PC-98 Attack Phase?
People always name their favorite attacks as spellcards. Why not show some love to the PC-98 attacks? :V
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Post by: Chuckolator on May 13, 2012, 08:57:05 PM
I've only played LLS so far, but probably Yuuka I's first phase. No reason, just fun. Dishonorable mention to Yuuka II's walling final phase.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on May 13, 2012, 09:05:45 PM
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Favorite music from fangames
It's hard to say...I haven't played many fangames, but there's a lot of beautiful music from the ones I have played. I'll root out a few of the standouts.
From Touhou Labyrinth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIsOrTCDu1A&list=FL3AvE17SRBibSDa4TqSAS9Q&index=14&feature=plpp_video Doesn't matter that it's all borrowed music from other sources, it is good borrowed music.
From Genso Shoujo Taisen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99my34bklkg It's a rare remix that is better than the original. I would have never thought a song like this could be turned into a hot-blooded battle theme, but there you go.
From Phantasm Romance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gai_Lpb63j0 Okay, so this is three songs, but goddamn this is the most beautifully done unofficial fight I've ever seen or played. The music from this stage and boss will always have a place in my heart.
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How do you handle Maze of Love
Circle once, drop down and overwhelm Flandre until it dies. With Marisa A, this is almost safer than circling a second time.
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Favorite PC-98 attack
Gengetsu spark. Not terribly difficult now that I've played it so many times, but it is very visually stunning for PC-98. That, and Gengetsu. <3
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Post by: Thanuris on May 13, 2012, 09:12:40 PM
Devil's Recitation
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Post by: Zengeku on May 13, 2012, 09:13:26 PM
Yumekos attacks are damn sweet.
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Post by: Zil on May 13, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Kotohime's bombs. Especially when her boss attack is also on-screen.
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 13, 2012, 10:00:48 PM
LLS Yuuka's double spark
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Post by: Esper on May 13, 2012, 10:06:15 PM
Anyway, I can't come up with any particular phase but let me give ones for specific categories as to what I call good by score.
Visual Appeal Winner is Giant Orb Flower from Inanimate Dream Yuuka because it looks so fucking awesome. Honorable mentions are Don't Move! from Inanimate Dream Yuuka, Gengetsu Spark, Devil's Recitation and Mugetsu's last phase.
Gameplay Winner is Cheeto Lasers from Shinki. I know it's just a gimmick, but it's really fun to play against. Honorable mentions are Sleeping Terror Yuuka's Midnight Spark, Devil's Recitation, the Orriries' Sun gimmick of the SoEW Marisa battle, LLS Reimu's first phase, and pseudo-CAVE Endphase from ExAlice as a close, CLOSE second.
Originality Devil's Recitation. Honorable mentions are Sleeping Terror Yuuka's Midnight Spark, Inanimate Dream Yuuka's Double Spark, Inanimate Dream Yuuka's Daisy Field (Giant fucking flower; Daisy = death), ExAlice's penultimate and final phases, and Gengetsu Spark.
Edit: For the love of god we're already in the 990s? How long has this thread existed?! Since December 3rd, 2011, apparently. Don't the other threads like the rage thread last like ten seconds because I'm always showing up?
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Post by: Thanuris on May 14, 2012, 07:07:23 PM
It might be too early but... :V
What are your current targets for each of the games, score or challengewise?
Personally i want to get a NMNB Stage 4 EoSD/MoF Lunatic and/or a UFO MarisaA Lunatic 1cc!
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Post by: BT on May 14, 2012, 07:14:33 PM
UFO Lunatic 1cc
Uhhh I'm not really a guy with a lot of goals. When I'm not UFO-ing I'm practicing stages I like. Such as EoSD 4-6, PCB 3, MoF 4, MoF 6, SA 4, SA 5, UFO 5.
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Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 14, 2012, 07:21:51 PM
UFO Lunatic 1cc
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Post by: ARF on May 14, 2012, 07:39:27 PM
I sort of want to become a MASTER at Mononobe's Eighty Sake Cups on Lunatic with Reimu. Current record: 9/1997
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Post by: Skyler on May 14, 2012, 07:42:16 PM
I want to get a 1cc of EoSD Lunatic before my birthday in August. Darn Meiling. Learning how to be more skilled at PCB Lunatic and IN Hard would be good too.
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Post by: nintendonut888 on May 14, 2012, 07:44:23 PM
NA
Well, until the next game, of course. Until the series ends, my mission will continue, it seems.
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Post by: Zengeku on May 14, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
Getting better I suppose. Other than that, just keeping my skills sharp and having fun with some cute girls (as in beating them up :V) is enough to sustain my interest in the series even if it's not the same enthusiasm it once were.
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Post by: MMX on May 14, 2012, 08:22:36 PM
Best PC 98 attack - Gengetsu final timeout phase aka Rape Time :V
Current aim - TD hard no bombs with Sanae.
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Post by: Ridley 64 on May 14, 2012, 08:23:51 PM
- EoSD Lunatic. I've gotten as far as the fairies right before boss Sakuya. - MoF Lunatic. My last attempt from a while ago ended at Kanako's second non-spell. Seeing runs with lots of bombs has given me hope, but I'm still kind of scared of VoWG. - UFO Hard. Last attempt ended at Devil's Recitation. I didn't know what I was doing in several parts of Stage 5 though. - GFW Lunatic B1. Still trying to see the first spell of the final fight. I'll move on to B2 and both C routes afterwards. - TD Lunatic. Last attempt from a long time ago ended at boss Seiga, but I died with bombs in stock at least twice.
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Post by: DeltaSierra4 on May 14, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
Yup, still waiting for the next game I suppose, but before that, GFW 1LC on all difficulties woohoo!
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Post by: Esper on May 14, 2012, 08:46:53 PM
What are your current targets for each of the games, score or challengewise?
1. I predict that this is a lock post.
2. Alright, here's a list for each of the games that I actually play.
Story of Eastern Wonderland, working on a Balanced Reimu Normal 1cc
Lotus Land Story, working on a Lunatic Reimu Homing 1cc
Mystic Square, working on a Mima Lunatic 1cc and a Mima Extra Clear
Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, working on a Lunatic 1cc with either Needle Reimu or Missile Marisa and trying to perfect the stage portion of the Extra Stage
Perfect Cherry Blossom, working on a ReimuB Lunatic 1cc and a ReimuB Extra Perfect
Imperishable Night, working on an Imperishable Shooting Capture and a FinalB Lunatic 1cc
Phantasmagoria of Flower View, working on a Normal 1cc with everyone
Shoot the Bullet, working on Stage 7 because I skipped 4 and 5, working on Ultra Stage 3
Mountain of Faith, working on a ReimuC Perfect Extra Clear and a ReimuB/ReimuC Lunatic 1cc, one or the other. Also, scoring. :V
Subterranean Animism, working on a ReimuA Hard 1cc.
Undefined Fantastic Object, working on a SanaeB Extra Clear and a Normal 1cc with everyone.
Double Spoiler, working on Stage 9 and sucking at it. :V
Great Fairy Wars, working on a Normal 1cc on all six routes.
Ten Desires, working on a Hard 1cc with Reimu and an Extra Clear with Reimu
Marine Benefit, working on a ReimuA Hard 1cc and a SanaeA Normal 1cc
This better be the last post of the thread or I'm going to be annoyed, because this is the 1004th reply. :V
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Post by: Elysia on May 14, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
EoSD: Figuring out how to get Vsync to work. :V
PCB: 90FPS Phantasm clear.
IN: Getting back into this game, because seriously, this thing is currently covered in dust.
StB: I think I'm done, thank you very much. 8)
MoF: 90FPS Hard 1CC.
SA: Rorschach in Danmaku timeout.
TD: Not sucking at Extra.
MB: Lunatic 1CC.
That's about all I can think of. Most of those are stretch goals, but whatever.
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Post by: K.B. on May 14, 2012, 09:14:20 PM