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[WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« on: March 15, 2011, 10:18:01 am »
Old thread here: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,6811.0.html



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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2011, 10:20:27 am »
Jerk Hele you're no fun :<

Support Koishi is just her getting a whole bunch of support items like Reitaisai and parasol.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2011, 10:21:41 am »
As support Koishi, don't forget to whore Jinkela/Tea.
Gotta keep your teammates alive.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2011, 10:24:14 am »
Nonexistant attachment pics in the hosting guide btw.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2011, 10:26:55 am »
Hey, is this new thread my fault?

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2011, 10:31:27 am »
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<Helepolis> the rambo guide was funny
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A QUICK GUIDE ON EFFECTIVE RAMBO BY DORMIO

This will just be a few pointers on how to rambo effectively, you need to learn by doing.

1. Don't pick a support.
This step is important. If you screw it up, you're destined to end up like Trance. (jk ilu Trance)

2. Ignore the minimap.
You don't have the time to give a fuck about what is happening elsewhere on the map WHEN YOU NEED YOUR FULL UNDIVIDED ON CHASING THOSE BITCHES THAT THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY FROM YOU. IS A TEAMMATE PINGING SOMETHING? IGNORE IT. YOU DO NOT GIVE A FUCK.

3. Do not communicate with teammates.
Silence is golden. Remember this rule, and remember it well. You need to concentrate on getting kills dammit. You can't waste those precious second(s) typing when you could be chasing those squishies.

4. Whore runes.
There are only 2 negative runes in the game, explosion/poison, compared to the 5 positive runes, regen/double damage/defence/invisibility/speed. The positive runes will save your life when you're diving into a 4v1 at the enemy tower.

5. Make sure your name is Hero999.
If you do not want to fail during your rambo attempt, this is the most important step. Disregarding this step will result in unavoidable failure.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2011, 10:33:04 am »
5. Make sure your name is Hero999.
If you do not want to fail during your rambo attempt, this is the most important step. Disregarding this step will result in unavoidable failure.
Why?

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2011, 10:36:04 am »
Hero999 is one of the best players in our community.
Hero, Dular, and I like to rambo a lot.
Hero, unless I have godluck, has the most success with rambo'ing.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2011, 10:36:40 am »
Hero999 rambo 4v1 and doesn't afraid of anything. Oh and he generally wins them :V

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2011, 10:45:18 am »
Hero999 rambo 4v1 and doesn't afraid of anything. Oh and he generally wins them :V
He usually wins!? WOW

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2011, 10:48:23 am »
Hero999 rambo 4v1 and doesn't afraid of anything. Oh and he generally wins them :V

That's usually after he farms like 20 kills from ganking everyone, everywhere and jerks start derping against him.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2011, 10:52:25 am »
I need more experience by battling against real people instead of cpu's
But I can't do that because of my bad internet connection.
It sucks  :(

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2011, 10:55:22 am »
Yeah.
Playing against the CPU, especially the CPU on the non-AI map, doesn't really help you develop your skills.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2011, 10:56:12 am »
What support koishi? I just got Reitaisai and then just buying a bunch of green tea. Parasol is for people who are bad and cant last hit

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2011, 11:02:42 am »
Yeah.
Playing against the CPU, especially the CPU on the non-AI map, doesn't really help you develop your skills.
Yup.
I always battle with the insane ones
But cpu's rarely use their good skills against me. They are pretty easy to beat. Except if it uses Alice. It can destroy a tower before I acquire my W skill. That is a lot of trouble

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2011, 11:09:02 am »
What support koishi? I just got Reitaisai and then just buying a bunch of green tea. Parasol is for people who are bad and cant last hit

WRONG.

Parasol is for:

A) Providing a damage and armor aura to help your teammates deal more damage and take more punishment
B) It makes you charismatic with the aura effect
C) Cheapskates because the item build-up is wonderful

Yup.
I always battle with the insane ones
But cpu's rarely use their good skills against me. They are pretty easy to beat. Except if it uses Alice. It can destroy a tower before I acquire my W skill. That is a lot of trouble

Wait, there's a difference?

Anyway, my Sanae guide is in the midst of writing. I will post it soon.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2011, 11:18:05 am »
Wait, there's a difference?
The others manage to destroy a tower about when I was lv9 or 10.
I don't know what happened, but probably Alice just keep summoning her dolls so that she rarely gets attacked.
And destroyed the tower quickly.
That's why I vote Alice in the poll because she is overpowered.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2011, 11:21:16 am »
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You really shouldn't be judging based off AI.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2011, 11:27:38 am »
Using Alice is hard though. You'll be wasting your time trying to assign different tasks to her dolls.
I guess cpu's has the advantage because they can do that quickly

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2011, 11:31:32 am »
I'm not saying that a good Alice isn't scary, because Alice in the hands of a skilled player is a monster.
But the CPU is terrible at DotS.
Like, seriously, Tanaka and I used to have competitions on who could rake up the most kills against CPUs. (Tanaka won with almost 60 kills while I had 50, 40 minute game)



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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2011, 11:49:31 am »
Utsuho Reiuji, - A guide by Dormio

Will write this once I finish Byakuren.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2011, 11:55:03 am »
Trance obv you've never seen support koishi, buying tea is much better and keeps ur other heros on the seige. while parasol provides a semi-decent aura which using jinkela can do the same thing and more. id rather seige longer then get an aura that doesnt stack. also tea heals everything even genji and using jinkela on him pwns

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2011, 12:00:34 pm »
Trance obv you've never seen support koishi, buying tea is much better and keeps ur other heros on the seige. while parasol provides a semi-decent aura which using jinkela can do the same thing and more. id rather seige longer then get an aura that doesnt stack. also tea heals everything even genji and using jinkela on him pwns

You said Parasol was for people who don't know how to last hit and are bad.

I didn't say jack shit about it being bad for Support Koishi.

I was proving that Parasol is a useful item in general.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2011, 12:02:46 pm »
Yea id rather buy 31green teas then buy parasol on anyone.
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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2011, 12:12:39 pm »
Are you gonna keep informing us about the guides you wrote until you finish your guide of all the characters and then post all of them at once?

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2011, 12:23:38 pm »
Nice guide Trance.
I still like my wording for "You're Sanae, so sooner or later, you're going to die" more though.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2011, 05:24:25 pm »
Hurr Yuugi guide when I get time to try more things type stuff and have people review it to make sure it isn't junk.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2011, 05:32:09 pm »
Actually, if someone on the team is going to get a Frozen Frog, isn't it better to put it on a non-carry because it doesn't stack or require procs? All you need to do is tag someone with a ranged attack to get the full effect, and the stat boosts you get from it benefit squishies more. I would think a carry would want something that makes better use of their attack speed.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2011, 05:34:41 pm »
That is the more economical idea of using the frost orb item. But it requires the team knowing who will get it and playing accordingly.

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Re: [WC3 - Dots] General discussion thread II
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2011, 10:11:23 pm »
Has anyone messed around with the kappa pistol yet? It looks neat, being so cheap and giving a nice armor bonus on top of that.

What kind of girls would you get it for?

(I'm just going to assume the phoenix wings are awesome)
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