Author Topic: New Touhou Wiki!  (Read 108576 times)

Momiji

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2010, 07:37:10 PM »
Uh ? He updated it a week ago. :V
See here.

Oh, by the way, you can use either http://www.touhouwiki.net/ and http://en.touhouwiki.net/, both are the same thing anyway.

Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2010, 07:54:46 PM »
See here.

I mean, he changed the message in Special:WikiActivity to link to the new wiki a week ago.

Momiji

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2010, 08:53:19 PM »
Well at this point it doesn't matter, I put up the notice on the mainpage.

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2010, 04:00:00 PM »
I read enough and am convinced too. Mainly the jerk move of forcing layout alone if like destroying common sense.

As contributor for Defense of the Shrines, I will end my support to wikia and move over to the wiki. However as discussed on IRC, for me the image uploading is extremely crucial. Momiji, you told me you were working on it as we speak, let me know about the progress and info. In worst case scenario, we'll manually upload them all anyway.

Momiji

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2010, 04:38:52 PM »
Yush, working on it now.   Yay, now we have CHARISMA!!  \o/

Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2010, 01:31:49 AM »
Uh oh interference from wikia staff.

Momiji

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2010, 02:48:22 AM »
Shit.  Just.  Got.  Real.

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2010, 07:36:40 AM »
What's the worst they can do, delete everything from Wikia? Would that really be a problem at this point?

Helepolis

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2010, 10:06:37 AM »
What's the worst they can do, delete everything from Wikia? Would that really be a problem at this point?
Nope, probably most of the stuff has been already moved I guess =V

Though I hope the following scenario does not occur, where people intentionally register on the wiki and start the infamous "editing war". After all, people remain people.


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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2010, 12:31:03 PM »
If you people are right gee I wonder when they will remove the new link on the old touhou wikia page.
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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2010, 02:51:16 PM »
What's the worst they can do, delete everything from Wikia? Would that really be a problem at this point?
No that's actually the best thing they can do.  What Wikia is doing now is the absolute worse, deleting any attempt at linking to the new link and appointing new admins in order to keep their version alive.  Wikia isn't above SEO poisoning either.

In order to get people to use the new wiki, we have to outrank the old wikia wiki on search results and/or close down the wikia page.  We can't do the latter, and the former is going to be hard as hell.


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Helepolis

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2010, 03:19:51 PM »
Well, outranking is hard as hell but it can take rapid speeds. By reading the touhou discussion page many many people are annoyed of wikia. Also regular contributors I seen have expressed their opinion on wikia. Seems like there is a kick-start support. It just needs to be taken into serious news spreading.

Forum communities are already huge impact anyway. We just need to keep reminding and notifying. Communities die quickly when there is no support. And seeing the recent changes, wikia is losing that support pretty fast. Hiring new admins isn't going to keep up once it accelerates.

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2010, 03:28:25 PM »


brb networking

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2010, 03:46:07 PM »
Good idea furien,  do the same  for the danmakufu folks following me on youtube. (Its not much but better than nothing)

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Why the fuck doesn't youtube allow me to post a bulletin. It is probably due to the links I am pasting in there. But what the fuck ...
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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2010, 04:22:00 PM »
I put one on mine with the link. Not that anyone views my tube.

Momiji

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2010, 05:50:16 PM »
If you people are right gee I wonder when they will remove the new link on the old touhou wikia page.
They had already done this yesterday, and someone added it back up.  They're already trying to remove any evidence of the move, and they're getting ready to try to get other people to take over adminship of that wiki, essentially creating a fork.  They've been doing this to pretty much every wiki that's left their hosting.  Pretty nefarious.

Anyway, thanks for the linking everyone.  The more the better. ^.^

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2010, 07:11:22 PM »
with regards to the search ranking:

Google has a sandbox rule where sites that rise quickly in rankings are sometimes subject to a "probationary period" where their rankings are lowered or hidden for a while to ensure it is not someone spamming. since Touhouwiki.net rose massively in traffic since its debut, the flux of traffic probably what caused it to be sandboxed, thus removing the page 3 results that were there. I have done the necessary submissions to the crawler and other resources, so as long as the site remains active and people are patient, it will eventually rank high once more. the site is definitely being indexed; searching for a unique phrase on a page returns Wikia as first result, and our site as the second.

I appreciate the massive support everyone has shown so far, and I look forward to seeing the site grow far beyond Wikia. thank you everyone for the links and announcements; let's keep the momentum going.

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2010, 08:49:06 PM »
Okay, I changed the links from the french wiki. I also tried to put an automatic redirection, from the french touhou wiki.net's page, but I failed. I'll try again later.
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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2010, 08:51:15 PM »
A little late to the party, but I should say my thanks here too.


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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2010, 09:46:18 PM »
Well I'm moving over as well. Mostly cause I didn't like the "new look" the old wikia updated to. it made everythin narrower and the ads...dam ads = =
I too work on some games there. TPW still and the touhou card game RSO. Guess I better make sure all the things are transferred over. I wasn't aware of a new wikia until someone on the poosh RSO thread mentioned it. I was still updating the old wikia so i've got to move the new stuff i did without knowing over or something.

Hopefully it isn't much. but oh well. Down with Ads! All hail Charisma!
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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2010, 10:08:31 PM »
Okay, I changed the links from the french wiki. I also tried to put an automatic redirection, from the french touhou wiki.net's page, but I failed. I'll try again later.

I have spoken with Hakkai, and this is now functional.

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2010, 12:49:29 AM »
A little late to the party, but I should say my thanks here too.

Same here. Many thanks, indeed.

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2010, 02:49:56 AM »
Thanks Master Bigode for reporting links to be updated.  You haven't gone unnoticed :V


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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2010, 03:31:58 AM »
As I mentioned, I've been changing the links on my site (and I spent an hour a few days or so changing the links in the comments on my site ... some of which, I discovered, were broken because they linked to things on "User:Kimiko" that I'd since moved to my site), and I've tweeted about it twice. Thanks everyone who's spreading the word.

Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2010, 01:44:19 PM »
I was about to start looking into changing the links in TvTropes, but noticed that someone beat me to the punch. GJ, whoever did that.

Whatthe

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2010, 10:01:51 PM »
I just re-fixed a few TV Tropes links. It wasn't an edit war or anything; whoever first replaced them linked to the nonexistent "http://http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki/wiki/" instead of "http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/" so someone else had reverted the links to Wikia ones.

Momiji

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2010, 10:21:43 PM »
The proper URL should be either http://www.touhouwiki.net/ or http://en.touhouwiki.net/ .  And again, thanks a whole bunch for everyone's link fixing and plugging, every little bit helps.  \o/

Sarah Manley, one of Wikia's six admins, was posting on the Wikia wiki's main talk page about keeping the old wiki, I gave her a piece of my mind (Local copy of the talkpage there).

Whatthe

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #57 on: November 24, 2010, 10:30:19 PM »
What I meant was that it was linking to (for example) http://http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki/wiki/Kasen_Ibara instead of http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Kasen_Ibara. Sorry for the confusion.

Momiji

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2010, 10:41:47 PM »
Weird.  Oh well, glad it's fixed.  ^.^

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Re: New Touhou Wiki!
« Reply #59 on: November 24, 2010, 11:17:40 PM »
I am perfectly happy with moving away from Wikia and will support this new wiki with my obsessive fangame detailing work.