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東方文花帖 ~ Double Spoiler
« on: March 14, 2010, 09:31:01 pm »
This is the thread for Double Spoiler.

Slowdown rate must not be more than 5% for any scene clear. A replay bundle is recommended for new first place scores.

Notes:
- The total score and missions cleared numbers are in the upper right corner of the Mission select screen; post this screen when submitting a screenshot. You may link to a single file archive of all your replays, if you wish; please try to use .zip, .rar, or .7z formats when doing so. Try not to use "temporary" uploaders for either images or replay archives.
- If you have uploaded your replays on gensokyo.org, link to the replay description page, and not the actual file. You'll know it's the description page if the URL has the word "download" and a number contained in it. You'll know if it's the replay file if the URL has the replay's filename contained in it.
- For those having problems with screenshots, read this.

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Post each score as follows:

CHARACTER
NAME - SCORE - SCENES - SCREENSHOT/ARCHIVE

----------------------------------------------------

Aya
 1. BaitySM           -  84,236,341 - ALL - Screenshot
 2. ARF               -  70,000,596 - ALL - Screenshot
 3. Phar              -  63,462,538 - ALL - Screenshot
 4. Andrew            -  60,003,587 - ALL - Screenshot
 5. A Huge Battleship -  56,533,376 - ALL - Screenshot
 6. Donut             -  51,351,101 - ALL - Screenshot
 7. Spooty Biscuit    -  50,041,680 - ALL - Screenshot
 8. Chuckolator       -  47,478,852 - ALL - screenshot
 9. Jaimers           -  43,739,393 - ALL - Screenshot
10. Heartbeam         -  43,086,168 - ALL - Screenshot
11. Dormio            -  37,006,658 -  98 - Screenshot
12. Kyon              -  34,228,694 - ALL - Screenshot
13. Yomihime          -  29,356,820 -  90 - Screenshot
14. Ihavenoname248    -  27,437,867 - ALL - Screenshot
15. ebarrett          -  27,295,183 - ALL - Screenshot
16. Formless God      -  26,909,626 -  95 - Screenshot
17. Sam the Onion     -  26,332,025 - ALL - Screenshot
18. Mewkyuu           -  25,968,898 - 103 - Screenshot
19. Krim              -  25,359,236 - ALL - Screenshot
20. Sapz              -  21,990,963 - ALL - Screenshot
21. Tikok             -  21,725,048 - ALL - Screenshot
22. Enigma            -  13,729,483 -  69

 
Hatate
 1. ARF               -  66,157,743 - ALL - Screenshot
 2. Heartbeam         -  66,075,101 - ALL - Screenshot
 3. Haku              -  45,394,959 - ALL - Screenshot
 4. Kyon              -  36,037,116 - ALL - Screenshot
 5. Jaimers           -  30,646,668 - ALL - Screenshot
 6. Krim              -  22,226,035 - ALL - Screenshot
 7. Mewkyuu           -  20,588,746 -  99 - Screenshot
 8. Sapz              -  17,492,888 - ALL - Screenshot
 9. Enigma            -   2,646,243 -  17
« Last Edit: November 14, 2016, 06:57:52 pm by Karisa »
Regarding score threads: For the time being, I'm not going to be online much; I would suggest that you simply do as you normally do, because I will come back and I will want those threads when I do.

Grand Octopus

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2010, 06:20:05 am »
I claim this topic in the name of me.

Aya
A Huge Battleship - 26,126,270 - 108 - Screenshot / Replay Archive is attached.

Archive contains 15 replays from Levels 9-EX. Nothing from the Spoiler scenes because they're lol. Edit: Updated with early scene scoring shenanigans, since it does actually make a difference. Edit II: Fixed screenshot.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2010, 09:41:19 am by A Huge Battleship »

Krimmydoodle

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2010, 12:57:21 pm »
Damn, didn't see that someone else on MotK had beaten me to the punch.  Oh well.

Aya
Krim - 25,359,236 - 108 - Screenshot
Whether you're on Easy or you're a Lunatic, be damn proud of your accomplishments.  Don't let anyone convince you otherwise, for it's when you lose faith in your own achievements that those victories become defeats.

Sapz

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  • *
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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 01:47:31 pm »
Aya
Sapz - 21,990,963 - 108 - Screenshot

Blah! Must increase score.
Let's fight.

[22:57] <Roukan> congrats sapz
[22:57] <Roukan> you are literally the stuff of nightmare

Jaimers

  • You just did it because you're older than me.
Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 11:27:24 pm »
Aya
Jaimers - 35,000,661 - ALL - Screenshot


Found a safespot.  :V

Aya
Jaimers - 35,223,651 - ALL - Screenshot

First time I actively played for score in a Touhou game.

Replay bundle contains a bunch of stuff. Some harder scenes and most extra's.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2010, 01:02:20 am by Jaimers »

Krimmydoodle

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 04:37:09 pm »
Hatate
Krim - 22,226,035 - 99 - Screenshot

*caw*
« Last Edit: March 16, 2010, 04:50:58 pm by Krim »
Whether you're on Easy or you're a Lunatic, be damn proud of your accomplishments.  Don't let anyone convince you otherwise, for it's when you lose faith in your own achievements that those victories become defeats.

Sapz

  • There's no escape.
  • *
  • It's time to burn!
  • LOOK AT ME
Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 07:04:17 pm »
Hatate - 17,492,888 - 99 - Screenshot

Woo, bad scores~
Let's fight.

[22:57] <Roukan> congrats sapz
[22:57] <Roukan> you are literally the stuff of nightmare
Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 09:27:48 pm »
Aya
Tikok - 21,725,048 - ALL - Screenshot

Score even worse than yours Sapz~
Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2010, 12:17:37 pm »
Aya
Sam the Onion - 26,332,025 - All - Screenshot

I know this has been asked before but where are the replay files?
« Last Edit: March 17, 2010, 12:25:24 pm by Sam the Onion »

Grand Octopus

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2010, 01:37:54 pm »
Aya
A Huge Battleship - 40,268,683 - All - Screenshot

So I went a little score crazy (hey, it beats sleeping). There're still a fair few scenes I haven't revisited (mainly EX/SP), but 40 million is a good stopping point for now, and I've played this game so much I'm hearing camera clicks around me IRL.

Sam: Appdata --> Roaming --> ShanghaiAlice.

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2010, 02:42:47 am »
Just finished the game today. :)

Aya
Spooty Biscuit - 42,620,751 - ALL - Screenshot

Working on putting together a replay bundle, though the videos are all there on my YouTube here. Won't be any 12-6 replay though, due to the glitchiness of it causing a desync.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2010, 03:55:49 am by Spooty Biscuit »

Jaimers

  • You just did it because you're older than me.
Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2010, 09:00:23 pm »
Hatate
Jaimers - 30,646,668 - ALL - Screenshot

While replaying the stages as Hatate, I found some more ways to score as Aya~

Aya
Jaimers - 43,739,393 - ALL - Screenshot

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2010, 12:42:23 am »
What a strange journey.

Aya
Heartbeam - 37,094,918 - ALL - Screenshot

Hatate
Heartbeam - 33,005,242 - ALL - Screenshot

This character is too good for some of the scenes.  Also, where's the enthusiasm for StB?

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2010, 03:42:02 am »
Aya
ebarrett - 27,295,183 - ALL - Screenshot

Goddamn 12-6 bug.

Grand Octopus

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2010, 08:36:34 am »
Aya
A Huge Battleship - 54,217,298 - All - Screenshot

Welp. About half of this increase came from high-scoring scenes that I either hadn't revisited or had revisited really badly (hahaha10-5). The other half came from general improvements on a whole ton of other scenes.

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2010, 12:33:50 am »
Aya
Spooty Biscuit - 50,041,680 - All - Screenshot

Improved a lot of stuff across the board. Gonna be aiming for 55 mil, though it's gonna be tough.

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2010, 07:24:17 pm »
Aya
Heartbeam - 43,086,168 - ALL - Screenshot

Hatate
Heartbeam - 47,670,528 - ALL - Screenshot

  • Guest

Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2010, 11:21:15 pm »
Aya
Bananamatic - 3,624,387 - 25

I don't hate myself enough to play Double Spoiler for score AT ALL

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2010, 01:29:01 am »
Hatate
Heartbeam - 52,247,784 - ALL -
Screenshot

Particularly fond of this one, but eventually settled for less to finish the scene.

Hatate
Heartbeam - 55,226,891 - ALL -
Screenshot

Hatate
Heartbeam - 56,050,117 - ALL - Screenshot

Stumped on a few of the level four scenes.  One of them I can get next Momizi until the nice shot comes up but the rest of the shots...don't feel like testing right now.  12-5 sitting at 2.17M and it could definitely reach 2.5M (maybe 2.4M instead).  12-8 with plenty of potential and only at 1M, and it's a pain to use Hatate's settings to clear through the buttons.  Pretty sure there's at least another 500K to go with EX-9 unless I was imagining things with an old run.  EX-2 has a way to go at 330K.

8-4 is bothersome.  Didn't try to get nice shots for the last two shots.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2010, 11:22:02 pm by Heartbeam »

Grand Octopus

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2010, 01:02:30 pm »
Aya
A Huge Battleship - 56,533,376 - All - Screenshot

Decent improvement on 12-7, ridiculous improvements on 12-8 and EX-9, and one or two other minor increases. 60 million with Aya will likely be my final target.

Grand Octopus

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2010, 01:44:42 pm »
Uh, wait a moment.

Slowdown rate must not be more than 5% for any scene clear.

My recent 2.12 million run of 12-8 has 6% slowdown according to the replay. It's full of defensive photo-taking, and the FPS always dips for a moment during the photo flash/scoring. I'm always at 60FPS whenever the game's actually moving (except for like a second at the start), and I definitely didn't get any benefit from the 'slowdown'.

Uploaded the replay here so you can see for yourself. If this DQs me for whatever reason I'll just keep scoring but won't bother posting here.

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2010, 02:59:07 pm »
Ayayaya
Formless God - 26,909,626 - 95 - Screenshot

Quote
First time I actively played for score in a Touhou game.
Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2010, 06:56:54 pm »
Aya
Phar - 60,253,790 - All - Screenshot

Finally another game that's fun to play for score. I've pretty much hit a brick wall though. :ohdear:

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2010, 11:20:41 pm »
Hatate
Heartbeam - 58,756,119 - ALL -
Screenshot

200 shots later and nothing changed.  The limit should be a little over 1.731M.

A 291K shot for 12-8!  Helped contribute to a 1.6M run along with a 15K shot.  Two shot bonus detection is harsh.  One case where the picture had all of Hatate while shooting above, hitbox visible, but everything below the skirt cut off...and nothing.

Hatate
Heartbeam - 60,071,422 - ALL -
Screenshot

Conveniently overlooked 12-6!  Still a little poor at 600K but it sure beats a 200K initial clear.  It's nice for things to click.

Hatate
Heartbeam - 61,373,545 - ALL -
Screenshot

Always forgetting to visit large boost scenes like this and 12-3.  EX-2 didn't change like I thought it would so it'll stay the same for now.

Only just noticed the typo on the jewel case.

Hatate
Heartbeam - 62,127,740 - ALL -
Screenshot

Another million and another excuse to put up more scenes.

Hatate
Heartbeam - 63,040,167 - ALL -
Screenshot

Surprise contribution by 7-6.  Not satisfied with the current score which has a 290K best shot and a 130K shot at the end.  A pretty 150K shot for 8-7, but it was only one of two shots that attempt to break 100K.  Still beat the old score, but...

Hatate
Heartbeam - 64,050,266 - ALL -
Screenshot

130K final shot again.  This can go places.

Hatate
Heartbeam - 65,159,877 - ALL -
Screenshot

Waiting for someone willing to do this five times.

Hatate
Heartbeam - 66,075,101 - ALL - Screenshot

731 shots later the scene improves by...zero points.

Okay, I should have looked up Two Shot requirements a long time ago so it wouldn't be so unclear.  Not even safe from taking pictures with as little as the feet left out.

« Last Edit: March 29, 2010, 11:48:52 pm by Heartbeam »

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2010, 10:40:41 am »
My recent 2.12 million run of 12-8 has 6% slowdown according to the replay.
This was mostly for people who try to keep 10% on every scene but obviously I can't really track something like that with screenshots (and that is why I recommend a replay bundle).

Is there any possible way you can redo this scene on a better computer?
Regarding score threads: For the time being, I'm not going to be online much; I would suggest that you simply do as you normally do, because I will come back and I will want those threads when I do.

Grand Octopus

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  • Nickname: AHugeBattleship
Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2010, 08:58:41 am »
This was mostly for people who try to keep 10% on every scene but obviously I can't really track something like that with screenshots (and that is why I recommend a replay bundle).

Is there any possible way you can redo this scene on a better computer?
Not really tbh. My laptop's easily the best computer in the house, and I don't have easy access to a better computer I can put StB2 on. I'm not working on improving my score at the moment anyway, so maybe when I get back to scoring I'll have access to a better one.

Dunno if you saw it, but I did actually include the replay in that earlier post.

LHCling

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2010, 01:14:19 pm »
Interesting distribution of scores. Well, here begins my creeping up the leaderboard!

Aya
BaitySM - 32,054,459 - 73 - Screenshot
BaitySM - 34,280,006 - 75 - Screenshot
BaitySM - 35,302,132 - 75 - Screenshot
BaitySM - 40,024,859 - 78 - Screenshot

BaitySM - 45,120,011 - 84 - Screenshot


Hatate
BaitySM - 0 - 0 - Screenshot


1 WR standing. Many other outstanding scores. And by that I mean like, 10.

It's also good to see some familiar names surface; LET for one. mille (Pixiv account required) is also a pretty awesome player it seems (and an awesome artist  <3).

Moving off further to the side, the names some of the Japanese(?) players use are... pretty weird at times. For example:
Quote
-_-

That's enough of a rant I'll stop here. Derp.
Honest. Well, until I get a huge increase in score that is, (45mil should be a good enough stepping stone at this point; yes a stepping stone, it's just a tiny hop for me after all).

Checkpoint.

Aya
BaitySM - 49,569,013 - 90 - Screenshot
BaitySM - 49,755,823 - 90 - Screenshot


On a quick glance; it would be theoretically possible to get about 385k on 5-2. Just saying.
Uguu~. I don't know the inner workings of 5-3. Oh well, the form is what matters at this point.

I believe I still have ~25 million potential points left, if not more. However, the problem is emulating these superplays. Something like 2-1 is giving me loads of trouble; trying to dodge from that close is well and truly beyond my ability at this point. Anything that crosses over also gives me difficulty, 2-5 is another example and I had to compromise 100k at this point because I can't dodge it very well. Either that, or there's a nifty little trick that I'm not seeing (both 2-1 and 2-5). Even something as "intimidating" as 7-7 is "easy" to score in once you realize the "trick" to it. Speaking of "tricks", I've found a way to get consistent 500k shots for 10-7. Potentially, it looks like it can stand to go up to 3.2mil at minimum. 3.5mil might be possible, but I would need to do further testing.

You'll also note that my score increase is rather small at the moment, this would be because I'm slowly working my way "up". Currently sitting on 5-x and working on those scenes; I might even go back to some of the older ones again to see if I can touch them up. Also, it seems that I apparently had more WR scores than I originally thought; but I never saved the replays thinking that they weren't good enough. It would seem I'm underestimating my own skills here.

And finally, most of those Nice Shots are damn red herrings to score. While also on that, the little tip from a certain player with regard to scoring on 8-2 made me laugh hysterically. Oh, and at this point, 5 submitted WRs (all can be beaten rather easily, save for 2... I think). One sitting at 2nd place because I fail and score a few hundred points less. On the side, HECATE submits, everybody loses  :V
Looks like there's some pretty solid competition going now. And I feel so overjoyed competing at various points, or even doing my little part in this and pushing various scores higher. Or just providing competition. Actually, regarding SP-4 (the Scene where I which I went crazy on), I think I can probably bump it up to 930k with little difficulty now that I've learnt a method of taking close-quarter photos. The macro bonus (+~600 in this case) when multiplied by the various bonuses gives us a total of
~3500 points. Per photo. But, assuming trade-off calculations, this is reduced to about 2k per photo. That's still 14k all up. Might be worth a try later. Then again, it's only a small amount.

It'd be nice to see some more submitted scores here. Should it really matter that you don't have all 108 or 99 Scenes cleared yet? No, it shouldn't. Submitting is conveying a message like "I'm proud of what I've done so far, so here are my results for everybody to see.". By not submitting, you're simply showing me the converse; that you're not really proud of your own skills, effort that you put in, or are just plain intimidated by these "awesome" scores everybody else submits.

Also, I'll crosspost the scores when I'm through learning UFO back-to-front and done everything for Hard. Makes it easier that way.

...wow, letting my thoughts just flow out feels really satisfying.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2010, 01:17:38 pm by Bai-tan »
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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2010, 11:53:31 am »
Aya
Phar - 63,462,538 - All - Screenshot

とりあえず。

I should probably mention that some of the replays are over 5%. For unknown reasons, performance seems to have taken a hit for me recently. It sometimes takes 1-2 seconds for a shot to finally register, which really bumps up slow rate. I suspect it has something to do with vsync, since it doesn't happen in windowed mode, but in windowed mode I seem to get a default slow rate of >6% regardless. Not to mention the extended windowed modes look like shit with my laptop's shitty scaling. I might put further scoring on hold until a vsync patch for DS comes out that hopefully fixes this issue, as it's really frustrating to get a high score only to find out slow rate was pushed just over 5%. I don't seem to be the only one with this problem either, judging from some of the comments and slow rates on royalflare.

EDIT: Now I feel stupid. Turns out processor performance in my laptop's power settings had somehow set itself to 50%. Now, while the 'pausing' issue still persists, the resulting slow rate is always well below the 5% boundary.

Something like 2-1 is giving me loads of trouble; trying to dodge from that close is well and truly beyond my ability at this point.
More like beyond human ability. I don't know, but my gut feeling immediately screamed TAS at that 300k replay. The movement just seemed too mechanical to be legit to me. The fact that it's the user's only submitted score makes it a bit suspicious as well.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 03:28:25 pm by Phar »
Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2010, 12:17:20 pm »
I have 284,418 on 2-1 with Hatate, so I could see that being possible with her. With Aya's charge speed though, I'm nowhere near that on the scene.

Also,

Hatate
Enigma- 2,646,243 -17

Aya
Enigma- 13,729,483- 69


Not exactly high scores, but I obviously haven't played enough yet. I still need to clear a lot of scenes.

LHCling

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Re: Double Spoiler. ~ 東方文花帖
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2010, 01:13:47 pm »
Aya's (Angle Bonus) multiplier unfortunately doesn't allow for anything really above... 250k I guess. Unless you're getting in real close *cough*. WR with Hatate sits at ~380k.

Oh, and thanks for submitting to add to the activity Enigma.

More like beyond human ability. I don't know, but my gut feeling immediately screamed TAS at that 300k replay. The movement just seemed too mechanical to be legit to me. The fact that it's the user's only submitted score makes it a bit suspicious as well.
I had the initial feeling as well, but let it go because I believed that it was just RNG shenanigans. However, upon a bit more trial and error, I was only able to get in that close for the first 2 shots at least once. Once out of about 100 attempts or so.

Looking back at it, I'm starting to think it may as well be TAS, for the reasons listed and being the user's only submitted replay (which was pointed out already).

Aya
BaitySM - 50,050,437 - 91 - Screenshot
BaitySM - 50,775,635 - 91 - Screenshot


I uhh... missed the last shot. And messed up 2 shots. However, most of it was balanced with RNG shenanigans and 77k shots. Slowly moving through sequentially~
Diminishing returns here (considering that I tried to actively score in these scenes upon first seeing them). I also upped my 2-1 score to 205k. Forgot to save a replay of that though  :derp:
Going out of order a bit. I'm somewhat disappointed by some of the shots; there's a bit more room. Oh well, the idea makes it easy enough.

Right I should stop spamming updates like this and set another milestone. Let's say 57mil.

EDIT:
:Slowdown:
I personally think it's related to your current OS. Because my PC is really sub-standard compared to these other top-of-the-line ones that I'm seeing around, and I'm getting 0% slowdown (normally). The only time this number starts spiking up is when I alt-tab quickly to an IRC window to pull a one-liner while not pausing  :V

Also, lgb there's a random "1" next to Sapz's Screenshot for the Aya.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 12:23:04 pm by Bai-tan »
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