momizi or momiji?

[Momizi Inubashiri]

my frends and i have talked it over alot

the game (and wiki) say Momizi but a few others say its Momiji (other frends)

also (zi) is not in the japanese language from what i hurd. but if thats so then why is it speld like that.

anyhelp

[Momiji]

ざ za | じ ji | ず zu | ぜ ze | ぞ zo | じゃ ja | じゅ ju | じょ jo

See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana

So yeah, Zun mis-romanized it.  And it's not the first thing he's mis-romanized (like Syameimaru).

[Quintafeira12]

What if he WANTED her to be called "Momizi" but he couldn't spell it like that in Japanese?

[Heath Robinson]

ざ za | じ ji | ず zu | ぜ ze | ぞ zo | じゃ ja | じゅ ju | じょ jo

See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana

So yeah, Zun mis-romanized it.  And it's not the first thing he's mis-romanized (like Syameimaru).

No, Momizi and Syameimaru would be in perfect alignment with Kunrei-shiki, the official romanisation scheme for Japan.

Hepburn is not correct, it's just intuitive for Westerners.

[Benny1]

ZUN's greatest romanization is Marlin from PoFV hands down.  If you can possibly explain how that came about, you are my hero.

[♛ Apher-Forte]

err... Maru (as in ball or orb) and Rin? (as in cold or round?)

rounded ball ZE GODS!

[Helepolis]

Isn't the same problem with Tei and Tewi?

I asked the same question once in #SM about Sanae. Kotiya(wiki) or Kochiya(danbooru). So yea confusion.

[LHCling]

Isn't the same problem with Tei and Tewi?

Tei and Tewi is somewhat different. It's about "wi" being deemed obsolete, and was dropped off completely. Now "i" is put in its place, giving Tei.

Another mis-romanization example would be Mokou's (Huziwara no Mokou // Fujiwara no Mokou).

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Sanae's case, I would have no idea.

[♛ Apher-Forte]

while we are at it.

is Keine said like:

KANE

or KAY NE

or KANYE

?

(in during daft punk music)

[Gpop]

while we are at it.

is Keine said like:

KANE

or KAY NE

or KANYE

?

(in during daft punk music)

STRONGER!

[AntKiller]

STRONGER!

My fav music is robot rock though ... D=
actually... dang! I need to hear daft punk now... Been a while without listening to it 

[Vile Lasagna]

Except we need to kill that F'er several times. And also the Daft Punk guys as well for getting on fours and enjoying some "love" from him.

[Helepolis]

while we are at it.

is Keine said like:

KANE

or KAY NE

or KANYE

?

(in during daft punk music)

Watch the latest M-1 GP of Touhou. Her name is pronounced there according to japanese.

[Tenbatsu! Myon Rabbie]

Both, at the same time!

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

I tend to go with whatever is the first one I personally encountered, which is usually the first one ZUN used, and/or however it's pronounced ("SHAMEIMARU!").

Though I do know one player on a MUSH who goes by "Mokou Fuziwara." I call her Fuzzy.

[DarkHedge]

Although I used myself to say Momiji instead of Momizi because I keep seeing it everywhere more often than the other, I believe the first name I saw characters depicted with (such as Kotiya, Shameimaru and such) are the most commonly accepted ones and thus, the ones that deserve being said. Same for Tewi. Tewi remains very old, and when she was born, the hiragana "wi" was still widely used...

[R-9A2 Delta]

I tend to go with whatever is the first one I personally encountered, which is usually the first one ZUN used, and/or however it's pronounced ("SHAMEIMARU!").

I have to say, I did the same thing.

Except with Komachi, Tei, and Momiji. (I say "Onozuka" instead of "Onoduka", the latter being used in SWR)

[Hieda no Aya]

Kunrei-shiki romanization (Momizi) makes sense to native Japanese speakers because it follows their phonological system. Hepburn romanization (Momiji) makes sense to English speakers because it gives us a better idea what things are supposed to sound like.

Or, basically, that syllable is a "zi" that sounds like a "ji".

"Fuziwara" is kinda silly, though, since it's switching romanizations in the middle of a name. But it doesn't really make much practical difference unless you're actually trying to make yourself understood in spoken Japanese. Personally, I've been trying to switch myself over to consistent romanizations for most names in Touhou... but I don't think I could ever get used to writing "Gensoukyou", so hey.

[Momizi Inubashiri]

im going to go with what Hieda no Aya sead

thanks for the help guys

[Hieda no Aya]

...But I thought I was saying they're both right. Huh.

[Drake]

I guess this means I should upload the rest of my voice clips to Touhouwiki.

[Cadmas]

So that is you slowly uploading all those clips?
You have a sexy voice.

I say it Momiji just b/c I like "J" more than "Z".

[Doomsday]

its Momizi to me, as well as Shameimaru

[Momiji]

Kunrei-shiki romanization (Momizi) makes sense to native Japanese speakers because it follows their phonological system. Hepburn romanization (Momiji) makes sense to English speakers because it gives us a better idea what things are supposed to sound like.

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"Momiji" is how it's pronounced, "Momizi" is how it would be spelled (to be consistent with the rest of "S-vowel-dakuten").
"Shameimaru" is how it's pronounced, and it's spelled "Shi-chiisai ya-me-i-ma-ru" in Japanese, so it can be spelled "Syameimaru" as well.  But the second romanization system isn't helpful for non-Japanese speakers that don't understand the pronunciation rules.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

"Fuziwara" is kinda silly, though, since it's switching romanizations in the middle of a name. But it doesn't really make much practical difference unless you're actually trying to make yourself understood in spoken Japanese.

Indeed. Regardless, it still allows me to call her "Fuzzy."

[Hieda no Aya]

Indeed. Regardless, it still allows me to call her "Fuzzy."

That is an undeniable advantage to that method.

[Achii]

Pixiv fixed my tags. They call her Momiji '3'

[Alice Fact]

momizi sounds better because it doesn't sound japanese

but what the hell is a "misromanization", I thought there were a million ways to romanize something

[Slowpoke]

So yeah, Zun mis-romanized it.  And it's not the first thing he's mis-romanized (like Syameimaru).

For the record:

Fujiwara
Gengetsu
Kochiya
Momiji
Shameimaru
Shikieiki
And I suspect Kurodani should be Kurotani.

Yes, ZUN makes mistakes.

[Drake]

That is an undeniable advantage to that method.

except the 'fu' in both words are pronounced differently.