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Drake

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Making references to other games
« on: May 23, 2009, 02:17:16 AM »
ZUN seems to do this a lot. I remember there being quite a few times where people have found more-than-uncanny similarities to other games out there, including...

-EoSD Reimu and Marisa's shot types imitating some other shmup (whose name escapes me~)
-Sakuya being a homage to Dio Brando
-MoF MarisaA being a Gradius homage
-etc


Thread because today my friend was playing Hellfire on the Genesis. Guess what shot types it has?
Red: Forward
Yellow: Backward
Green: To both sides at 90 degrees
Blue: X-shaped at 45 degrees
GEE I WONDER WHO THIS COULD BE
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Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2009, 03:16:20 AM »
My guess is that you have been reading that Touhou influences page on the wiki?

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Touhou_influences
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Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 03:20:50 AM »
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Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2009, 06:01:36 AM »
I think Gengetu Rape Time is based off of something from Cave, but I wouldn't know for myself. Maybe the Nicovideo comments are just saying that it's LIKE Cave.
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Chainsaw Guitar

Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2009, 07:14:24 AM »

Also, Yukari has Faust's door move. And Rumia is so similar to Zato-1, she may as well be his daughter.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2009, 07:24:02 AM by Chainsaw Guitar »
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shadowbringer

Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2009, 07:38:41 AM »
(Subterranean Animism)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91sLZL1wBQE (3:35~3:59)
(ESP Ra.De)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t754GPXXFqc (0:08~0:14)
(Dodonpachi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6xUTX7u1Qg (3:25~3:41)

the patterns aren't exactly equal, but I did remember these two patterns when I saw Utsuho's

(Subterranean Animism)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91sLZL1wBQE (2:23~3:05)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epKT3XdiOK4 (4:51~5:25)
(Dodonpachi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsTnsIm2x2I (3:03~3:12)

Dodonpachi's pattern differs (mostly) in that the aimed shots are small (and there aren't adjacent shots based on the angle of the aimed ones), and they're repeated at a faster rate

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Undefined_Fantastic_Object:_Reimu_B%27s_Scenario
Great revival?
I don't like the sound of that.

that's it, for now :D
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neku: now for something important.
Translations.
How much time do you guys think it will take for HM to be translated? Besides everyone's story modes and the whole menus, there's also the fact that the way HM's programmed is different from all other games. I bet it'll take two months.

lusvik: I don't mind about playing HM in japanese. The language of punching other people is international.

Zengeku

Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2009, 08:39:39 PM »
So MoF Marisa A is taken from Gradius huh? Why don't ZUN steal some actually good shot types hmm?

Well actually i have spotted some things ZUN used in his games during my survival horror journey through the jungle of non-touhou shooters.

When i paid DoDonPachi a visit, i saw something very much resembling the arrowhead bullets introduced in PCB and also something that could remind of the nuke bullets of SA.
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Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2009, 10:38:06 PM »
Quote from: Zengeku on May 24, 2009, 08:39:39 PM
the nuke bullets of SA.
A part of me feels resistant to calling those "bullets" ...
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Azinth

Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2009, 11:34:51 PM »
Sakuya's character design seems heavily based off of the Seihou character Muse (who just happens to be my avatar because she's awesome).  She came from Kioh Gyoku, which was released in 2001, one year before EoSD.  She has short grey hair and a blue/white frilly dress.  She also happens to use knife throwing and manipulation of cursed marionettes(Alice?) as the base for her danmaku.  So that makes Yumeko, Dio Brando, and Muse.  I guess Sakuya is just a big old bag of homages isn't she?
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nintendonut888

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Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2009, 11:43:27 PM »
This is kinda random, but who's the final boss of Kioh Gyoku? I really don't know.
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Azinth

Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2009, 11:53:20 PM »
 :P Muse is the final boss of Kioh Gyoku.  And an absolute bitch of a final boss at that.  Her fight is known to last longer than all the other matches in the game put together.  She's also the penultimate boss of Banshiryuu's extra, and arguably the hardest boss in that stage too.  It should also be noted that her theme in Kioh Gyoku is one the most bad-ass things that ZUN has ever written (imo of course).  Did I mention that she is awesome?

Edit:  Hmm, that's interesting.  It seems that in BSR you can make items on the screen auto-collect by grazing bullets.  You know, like that one Touhou game.  What was it called again?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2009, 07:31:59 AM by Azinth »
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stassy

Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2009, 07:19:04 AM »
The music of the 1st MOF stage is supposed to be a reference to gradius or another oldie (someone talked about it in the mof thread when the game was released).

Also ZUN said somewhere in the bonus text that there was some references to his 1st games in there too.
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Gpop

Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2009, 12:43:56 PM »
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shadowbringer

Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2009, 07:06:16 PM »
(Note: I don't intend to say or imply that ZUN did copy these attacks or were actually inspired by them; I would gather conclusive evidence instead, if I were to say so :D )
(Subterranean Animism)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKM2iTYDnz4 (4:49~5:22)
(ESP Galuda)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp3RWtF86sI (3:52~3:59)

(Mystic Square)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65XsORNMvbA
(Armed Police Batrider -- unlikely reference, since both games were made in 1998; TH's version is better imo xD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dj2I-mppAQ (0:16~0:19)


(Mahou Daisakusen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5o-QeiRCNY (6:15~6:18 -- when you see this......)
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neku: now for something important.
Translations.
How much time do you guys think it will take for HM to be translated? Besides everyone's story modes and the whole menus, there's also the fact that the way HM's programmed is different from all other games. I bet it'll take two months.

lusvik: I don't mind about playing HM in japanese. The language of punching other people is international.

Cadmas

Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2009, 07:32:01 PM »
Well the way I see it is things need to be recycled or they will just fall into the dust bin of time.
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Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2009, 02:12:26 AM »
Quote from: shadowbringer on May 25, 2009, 07:06:16 PM
(Mahou Daisakusen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5o-QeiRCNY (6:15~6:18 -- when you see this......)

HOLY SHIT HOW DID HE SURVIVE THAT!?
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Re: Making references to other games
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2009, 04:34:24 AM »
Quote from: shadowbringer on May 25, 2009, 07:06:16 PM

(Mystic Square)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65XsORNMvbA


Is it a coincidence that nintendonut888 has commented alot in this video?
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