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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2010, 02:37:39 AM »
Assuming Lunatic difficulty here.

Easiest:

st1:  Letty
st2:  Parsee
st3:  Nitori
st4:  Prismriver (Lunasa opener, Lyrica card)
st5:  Reisen
st6:  Utsuho
EX:  Koishi

Hardest:

st1:  Nazrin YAMAME'S OPENER
st2:  Kogasa
st3:  Ichirin
st4:  Murasa
st5:  Syou
st6:  Byakuren
EX:  Koishi

Yes, I'm aware that I listed Koishi for both easiest and hardest.
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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2010, 02:43:17 AM »
I don't see a single mention of Yukari. I know it's because she's the only one in all of Touhou for her Phantasm category, but I'd still like to know how she stacks up against the rest.
Yukari is 80% memorization.  Once you know the "tricks" to her attacks - and given that you just tripped over every one of those attacks fighting Ran, that shouldn't take long - there's only a little more to go.  The fight only really starts to goes to heck at Boundary of Humans and Youkai.

She's more or less in the middle of the pack, I guess - which is why you haven't seen her in hardest/easiest lists.  I believe this board has seen one or two people who couldn't consistently 1cc Normal but have beaten Yukari.

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2010, 03:58:05 AM »
Yeah, anyone who's beaten enough extra stages knows that there's no real reason to judge Yukari differently from other extra bosses. In my opinion Yukari is in the upper tier of extra bosses, but still manageable, especially with all the lives you're given.
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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2010, 05:19:15 AM »
I believe this board has seen one or two people who couldn't consistently 1cc Normal but have beaten Yukari.

I registered just because I felt the need to post this.

 I have not once 1cc'd Perfect Cherry Blossom (I play normal, but I havn't done it on easy either >.>) and have beaten Yukari 3 or 4 times.

Just thought I'd share that :)

Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2010, 05:50:57 AM »
I believe this board has seen one or two people who couldn't consistently 1cc Normal but have beaten Yukari.
Isn't this because most Extra bosses are largely about figuring out the gimmick to their cards and exploiting that?

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2010, 05:54:19 AM »
Yukari is 80% memorization.  Once you know the "tricks" to her attacks ... there's only a little more to go.  The fight only really starts to goes to heck at Boundary of Humans and Youkai.

Isn't this true for Extra bosses in general though? All the ones I've beaten are mostly 'tricky' spellcards with a few tough ones thrown in. I think that's why I'm finding Flandre harder, is most of her cards seem to be 'actual dodging'.

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2010, 09:23:46 AM »
Easiest :
Stage1 : Orange
Stage2 : Hina
Stage3 : Alice(MS)
Stage4 : IN Marisa
Stage5 : Sanae (boooooomb)
Stage6 : Kanako (except VoWG)
EX : Mokou

Hardest :
Stage1 : Nazrin
Stage2 : Chen
Stage3 : Keine
Stage4 : Ayayayayaya
Stage5 : Orin
Stage6 : Yuyuko
EX : Koishi
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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2010, 09:28:01 AM »
Yukari is probably the 2nd easiest IMO, not including Ran that is. But, I really like playing against her, so maybe it's just my insane amount of practice with her.

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2010, 09:44:50 AM »
Easiest (Normal/Hard)

Stage 1- Sara (Is this even a contest?)
Stage 2- Kurumi (Then again LLS is a joke on normal and hard :\)
Stage 3- Alice (PCB)
Stage 4- Patchy
Stage 5- Yuka
Stage 6- Yuka (>_>)
EX- Flandre

Hardest (Normal/Hard)

Stage 1- Minoroko (Autumn sky what the FUCK)
Stage 2- Cirno
Stage 3- Ichirin (well, more the stage)
Stage 4- Marisa (SoEW)
Stage 5- Youmu
Stage 6- Kanako (I have to bomb everything except MoF/VoWG and Mad Dance)
EX- Koishi

Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2010, 11:39:46 AM »
Easiest (Normal/Hard)
Stage 1 - Rumia
Stage 2 - Hina
Stage 3 - Alice (PCB)
Stage 4 - Murasa or Aya
Stage 5 - Youmu
Stage 6 - Kanako
EX - Suwako

Hardest (Normal/Hard)
Stage 1 - Durr...  ...  None of them.
Stage 2 - Parsee.  Just too gimicky.  I can't handle it.
Stage 3 - Ichirin
Stage 4 - Satori (Marisa from IN comes close though)
Stage 5 - Shou
Stage 6 - So many... I want to say all of them...  I'll go with Utsuho though.
EX - Koishi

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2010, 01:10:35 PM »
Easiest :
Stage 1 : Minoriko
Stage 2 : Mystia
Stage 3 : Keine
Stage 4 : Marisa (LLS)
Stage 5 : Reisen
Stage 6 : Kaguya
Extra Stage : Mokou

Hardest :
Stage 1 : Wriggle
Stage 2 : Chen
Stage 3 : Unzan Ichirin
Stage 4 : Satorin
Stage 5 : Shou
Stage 6 : All Remilia
Extra Stage : Koishi
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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2010, 01:30:52 PM »
I think you confused Minoriko and Wriggle's spots. And Kaguya and Remilia.
Unless it's Easy Mode we're talking about here.

Easiest :
S1 : Rumia
S2 : Hina
S3 : Alice (PCB)
S4 : Reimu (IN)
S5 : Sanae
S6 : Utsuho (totally effortless fight)
EX : Mokou (^)

Hardest :
S1 : Yamame (Miasma Sign is a freakin' STAGE 1 SPELL ?)
S2 : Kogasa (Super Bone-Dry Something, I remember it being Orin's last non-spell)
S3 : Ichirin (Screen-shaking Starbow Break and all sort of crap)
S4 : Patchy (Lazors ! DonutBubble danmaku ! Mercury Poison ! Green Storm ! Sylphae Horn ! Blaaaaaargh)
S5 : Orin (WAY longer than Shou, your bombs don't work, and no power ups before Ghost Wheel)
S6 : Yuyuko (her spells are NOT hard, yet they blend TOO well with the background to the point where the teal knives become almost invisible, and I always clipdeath no matter what)
... and Kaguya ! Similar to the above, except a deathbomb completely annihilates a spell card, but it doesn't make her any easier.
EX : Koishi (bearly made it out with one life to spare, and her seemingly easy last spell has a REALLY nasty tendency to flank me)
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 01:32:51 PM by Formless God »

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2010, 01:41:17 PM »
I think you confused Minoriko and Wriggle's spots. And Kaguya and Remilia.
Unless it's Easy Mode we're talking about here.

You know , there no Remilia in Easy Mode :V
Well , maybe I'm confused
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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2010, 02:19:57 PM »
Isn't this true for Extra bosses in general though? All the ones I've beaten are mostly 'tricky' spellcards with a few tough ones thrown in. I think that's why I'm finding Flandre harder, is most of her cards seem to be 'actual dodging'.
Not all of them, just the most recent ones.
Ran's cards take it to an extreme, though - you either know how to do the attack, or you lose all of your lives.  Yukari is based on Ran.  QED (wrong battle, but etc.)

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2010, 05:03:22 PM »
From Normal,

Easiest
S1: Yamame
S2: Mystia
S3: Keine
S4: Murasa
S5: Reisen
S6: Utsuho
Extra: Koishi is the only other EX boss I've gotten to, other than Mokou. Really, though, I can no-death EVERYTHING up until Philosophy of a Hated Person, at which I lose two lives and then I beat Sub. Rose without any issues.

Oh, and I use Marisa C for SA Extra.

Hardest
S1: Err... Wriggle, maybe?
S2: Hina, maybe? I dunno.
S3: Alice?
S4: MarisaC - Satori
S5: Orin. But she's not too bad.
S6: Remilia? None of the stage 6 bosses give me too much trouble.
Extra: Mokou, really, is kinda hard, but you have spell practice for everything you can't bomb. Her final noncard is LOL EAT YUYUKO DEATHBOMB

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2010, 05:37:03 PM »
Easiest:

Stage One: Rumia
Stage Two: Cirno, but Parsee and Chen came in close.
Stage Three: Guess I'll say Yuugi, but the battle isn't in the best mental state.  Otherwise, Alice or China.
Stage Four: Prismriver Sisters
Stage Five:  Going to be from PCB.  Really should say Reisen or Sanae, but I've seen that battle no more than five times and I'm usually in a good mental state when facing Youmu because of familiarity.  The entire Reisen fight feels like a chore.  Can't say the same for Sanae, but there's a definite lack of learning her attacks.
Stage Six: Another PCB boss.  Super slow bullets and micromemorizable attacks make this battle immensely more perfect consistent than some stage two and even stage one bosses.
Extra: Too close to figure out.  Any of the Windows bosses except for Mokou, and I want to add Suwako but just can't.

Hardest:

Stage One: Yamame followed closely by Minoriko.
Stage Two: Kogasa
Stage Three: Ichirin, but not by a large margin.
Stage Four: Patchouli or Satori
Stage Five: Shou, but it feels like a fight with consistent difficult attacks that you can eventually work over.  Sakuya with rank, on the other hand...
Stage Six: Kaguya.
Extra: Mokou.

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2010, 12:09:07 AM »
Everything on Hard and Lunatic:

Easiest
Stage 1: Wriggle. She's a joke on every difficulty. Lunatic Wriggle is about as hard as Normal Yamame.
Stage 2: Parsee, I guess. [Large Box and Small Box] can get claustrophobic at times, but nothing she throws at you is actually hard. Mystia's pretty simple too, I don't know why everyone hates her last midspell so much.
Stage 3: Probably China.
Stage 4: Aya with bombspam Murasa, probably. Only her survival card is really difficult, and even that is just memorizing a path for yourself.
Stage 5: Reisen. Lolmemorization
Stage 6: I don't know how, but I randomly just got like six times better at fighting Yuyuko. I have no idea how, but she's really easy now.
Extra: Suwako, except for that fucking second survival card.

Hardest
Stage 1: Tough decision on this, Yamame vs. Nazrin. Nazrin's manageable until her last card, which is utter bullshit on Hard and Lunatic. Yamame's last spellcard is an autobomb for me on H&L, and her opener on Lunatic, oh my god.
Stage 2: Kogasa ;_; Her last two cards are autobombs because by the time I reach them, I'm so low on power that I'd rather bomb them than time them out >:
Stage 3: Yuugi. Mt. Ooe is just insane, and I still have no idea how to do her last midspell. And losing a life to [Shackle a Criminal Can't Break] because you were trying to get the life piece is just humiliating.
Stage 4: Satori. All of them. All of them except ReimuC, she's really easy.
Stage 5: Shou, but mostly because CURVY LASERS and I can barely reach her on Hard, so I don't get to practice much. >:
Stage 6: I haven't played Byakuren on hard, but I can imagine her being the hardest. Scarlet Meister, though...
Extra: Flandre. I've gotten her down to 1DNB and she's still the hardest boss.

Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2010, 12:20:21 AM »
What ?
I've heard that if you screw up Imperishable Shooting (which is very easy to do), your score is pretty much kaput, which could make Mokou pretty tough for scoring runs.

Aside from that I've got nothing, though to her credit I've yet to beat her for myself (I can only make it to her 3rd card while I can make it to Flandre's 4th).
« Last Edit: January 05, 2010, 12:27:31 AM by AlexX »

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2010, 12:34:32 AM »
Easiest:

S1: Sara
S2: Cirno
S3: Meiling
S4: Mai?  They're all pretty similar to me.
S5: Shou (though I haven't
S6: Shinki
Extra: Ran

Hardest:

S1: Yamame
S2: Chen
S3: Yuugi
S4: Murasa
S5: Orin
S6: Byakuren
Extra: Koishi

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2010, 01:20:47 AM »
There are other things to work on that have a much better risk-reward ratio.  Well, maybe Imperishable Shooting is some predictable position-based spell so it would eventually become a nonissue.  However people want their priorities set.

As for the listing, it's more like, "I didn't take the time to learn the fight and commit it to memory so I still fail her first spell 25% of the time, among other things".  Really, all you do is hit the POC for 99% of the items, capture most of the spells, and break two billion just like that.  Which is why the score only lands you somewhere in the top 100 for Royalflare.

Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2010, 10:20:59 PM »
All Lunatic/Extra:

Easiest:

S1: Rumia
S2: Cirno
S3: Yuugi
S4: Prismrivers fighting Lyrica
S5: Sanae
S6: Kanako/Utsuho
Extra: Mokou - Aside of Rings of Death of course.

Hardest:

S1: Nazrin
S2: Kogasa - Way tougher than other S2 bosses.
S3: Ichirin/Alice in PCB
S4: Haven't fought Murasa Lunatic for a while so: ReimuB Patchouli.
S5: Shou
S6: Byakuren.
Extra: Haven't played Sigma. Probably never will. So it's the Getu's for me.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2010, 10:22:37 PM by Zengeku »

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2010, 10:33:05 PM »
Easy:
1 Rumia
2 Mystia (maybe Hina but I have too many experience on mystia)
3 Keine
4 Aya (bombLOL)
5 Reisen
6 Kanako (minus Vowg)

Hardest:
1 Nazrin (but not by a large margin, none are actually hard)
2 Chen
3 Ichirin
4 Prismrivers
5 Youmu
6 I don't really know since I'm a normal/hard player. I think Utsuho is defintely the hardest on normal, but on lunatic I guess Byakuren or so wins

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2010, 11:11:14 PM »
Stages 1-3 easiest refer to Lunatic, rest are Hard.

Easiest:

S1: Rumia
S2: Kurumi
S3: Meiling (Still painful, but not as bad as others)
S4: Lyrica
S5: Reisen
S6: Mima (She's a final boss, she counts.)
Extra: Mugetu/Gengetu

Hardest:

S1: Nazrin
S2: Kogasa
S3: Ichirin
S4: Assuming Murasa, but going from what I've actually faced... Aya.
S5: ...All of them that aren't Reisen? Though Yuka spark sticks out in my mind... Despite not remembering ANY other part of Yuka's fight <_<;
S6: Byakuren.
Extra: I wanna say Nue, but I've barely faced her at all. So I'm gonna go with Flandre on this one. How the heck is she tougher than ALL OF HARD MODE?!

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2010, 11:33:53 PM »
I've heard that if you screw up Imperishable Shooting (which is very easy to do), your score is pretty much kaput, which could make Mokou pretty tough for scoring runs.

Unless I'm missing something, not really.  The card's base capture value is worth very little, although you can obviously increase it from grazing.  You won't increase it a huge amount though (as opposed to say PbP).  There aren't any point items after this card, so extra time doesn't increase your score nearly as much as grazing the first non-spell, grazing Honest Man's Death, etc.

Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2010, 12:01:37 AM »
Easiest

Stage 1: Rumia
Stage 2: Mystia
Stage 3: Meiling
Stage 4: Murasa
Stage 5: Sanae
Stage 6: Byakuren
Extra: Nue

Hardest

Stage 1: Minoriko (On Hard/Insane that is)
Stage 2: Kogasa
Stage 3: Keine
Stage 4: Aya
Stage 5: Youmu
Stage 6: Kanako
Extra: Koishi

Didn't Include PC-98 because right now my memory of them is too hazy.

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2010, 01:01:06 PM »
on lunatic difficulty

Easiest:

1: Rumia
2: Cirno
3: Meiling
4: Prismrivers
5: Sakuya
6: Remilia (the least hardest final boss for me)
Ex: Flandre

Hardest

1: Minoriko
2: Chen
3: Keine
4: Patchouli
5: Orin
6: Eirin (is she supposed to be easier than Kaguya?)
Ex: Koishi

Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2010, 10:46:59 AM »
6: Eirin (is she supposed to be easier than Kaguya?)

Somewhat. Brilliant Dragon Bullet is at least to me harder than anything Eirin has except for Apollo 13 maybe. Even so, i could time Apollo 13 out but not Brilliant Dragon Bullet so i guess Apollo 13 is actually easier than that too. That aside, Kaguya also have some other nasty cards.

Also, i don't get why so many vote for Chen!

How can Kogasa's spells not be considered harder? They hardly belong on Stage 2 and the only thing Chen has that isn't a complete joke is Kimontonkou!

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Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2010, 01:20:08 AM »
How can Kogasa's spells not be considered harder? They hardly belong on Stage 2 and the only thing Chen has that isn't a complete joke is Kimontonkou!
Pentagram Crest comes to mind.  That and I get clipped on Chen's nonspells much more than Kogasa's.

Re: Who is your hardest and easiest boss from each stage in the series?
« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2010, 03:55:34 PM »
Pentagram Crest comes to mind.  That and I get clipped on Chen's nonspells much more than Kogasa's.

Pentagram Crest? That's not really anything special. I capture it consistently. The same for her non-spells. Kogasa's 1st and 2nd spell on Lunatic (sometimes even on Hard too) are much harder than Chen's stuff!!! Of course, Kogasa's non spells are pretty simple tapping so they aren't too much of a threat. ;)