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Suwako Moriya

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #90 on: December 22, 2009, 06:38:22 AM »
Oh, and Suwako isn't anywhere near the top ten, as I recall. But I could be wrong. This was a while ago.

I returned because I'm just too cool to be held out.

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #91 on: December 22, 2009, 06:42:56 AM »
I returned because I'm just too cool to be held out.

Earthquake in a can, girl.

Oh, I forgot. UNL. Utsuho returned too.

Hope you enjoy being the most useless insane erratic character in the whole game o/

Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #92 on: December 22, 2009, 06:55:58 AM »
Basically, just because you don't like them doesn't mean no-one else does.
What are you talking about? Sanae is one of my favorites. =V

I was always under the impression Sanae was pretty unpopular in both the west and the east, from the start but especially after her (seemingly) random cameo in SA. I assumed she just wasn't a popular character since every source I had available said so, backed up by the fact I don't even know that many who like her, but apparently I was mistaken... (though I'm still pretty sure Suwako is pretty popular)
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Suwako Moriya

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #93 on: December 22, 2009, 07:10:15 AM »
Oh, I forgot. UNL. Utsuho returned too.

Hope you enjoy being the most useless insane erratic character in the whole game o/

To hell with convention! I'm my own woman, I do things my way. Do you have any idea how boring my lifetime would have been if I spent every moment of it conforming?
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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #94 on: December 22, 2009, 07:15:34 AM »
Do you have any idea how boring my lifetime would have been if I spent every moment of it conforming?

It could be worse, you know. You could have a moveset that involved you flapping your sleeves like a bird and dancing the dance of your people. Something like
.

... Oh, wait. Never mind. Forgot who I was talking to for a moment there.

Suwako Moriya

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #95 on: December 22, 2009, 07:26:22 AM »
You ain't livin' if you ain't havin' fun, sister.



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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #96 on: December 22, 2009, 07:28:50 AM »
Look at that. You can't tell me I'm not awesome.



Sorry, girl, but armpits has you beat there.

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #97 on: December 22, 2009, 07:34:42 AM »
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Drunken Awesomeness..

Goodbye, Flan.

Suwako Moriya

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #98 on: December 22, 2009, 07:39:06 AM »


Sorry, girl, but armpits has you beat there.

Oh, please, that's one animation. I have 'em comin' out the wazoo.



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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #99 on: December 22, 2009, 07:44:34 AM »
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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #100 on: December 22, 2009, 07:45:09 AM »
If only there was a sprite for the catfish.



In lieu of that, nothing Suwako does can outdo the craziness of Meiling's entire scenario.

Suwako Moriya

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #101 on: December 22, 2009, 07:52:59 AM »
Listen. I may be a God, but even I have some logically-defined limits. I can't compete with a shroom-induced drug trip.
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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #102 on: December 22, 2009, 08:54:29 AM »
Remilia is obviously the best for being a spoiled bitch. I wonder if she is just as bratty in UNL as in SWR where she forced Sakuya to bring the 'suspects' to the mansion by force.


If popularity was that important we'd probably have Suwako as playable instead.
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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #103 on: December 22, 2009, 09:02:57 AM »
What happened to Byakuren, huh? Anyway, I don't mind really. Basic argument, despite all that the final bosses have done, Remilia with the Scarlet Mist, Yuyuko stealing spring/Lily White, Suika partying, Eirin making a fake moon, Komachi slacking off, Kanako trying to take over Hakurei Shrine, Tenshi stirring up trouble, Utsuho gaining her nuclear powers, and now Byakuren, regardless of their intentions, they always end up just relaxing in Gensokyo and going to the yearly party at Hakurei shrine to get hammered. That's pretty much the end all/be all of outcomes. Intention can go screw itself.

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #104 on: December 22, 2009, 03:11:44 PM »
Of course, logically the first thing you do after narrowly defeating a final boss is invite them to a tea party.

Everyone knows that.

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #105 on: December 22, 2009, 04:17:46 PM »
Let me just note one thing:

Of the Windows Touhou games (not counting StB), Byakuren is the only final boss not to instigate her game's story/incident besides Shikieiki.  Remilia did the Red Mist, Yuyuko stole spring, Suika made the endless feasts, Eirin and Kaguya made the false moon, Kanako and co. tried to steal faith (Suwako just went along for the ride since Kanako was the one panicking about lack of faith), Tenshi caused the natural diasters, and Okuu went mad with power.

If it wasn't for Nue pranking Gensokyo, nothing would've really happened.

Just something to bring up, you know.

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #106 on: December 22, 2009, 07:43:25 PM »
Listen. I may be a God, but even I have some logically-defined limits. I can't compete with a shroom-induced drug trip.
I heard Kanako could. Maybe that's why she is the main goddess of the shrine.
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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #107 on: December 22, 2009, 09:24:35 PM »
If it wasn't for Nue pranking Gensokyo, nothing would've really happened.

Thank you for pointing this out. I can now blame the clusterfuck that is UFO on Nue being a bitch.

Not that I didn't before, but now I can do it with a clear conscience.

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #108 on: December 22, 2009, 09:49:49 PM »
Thank you for pointing this out. I can now blame the clusterfuck that is UFO on Nue being a bitch.

Not that I didn't before, but now I can do it with a clear conscience.

To her defense, it wasn't like she was being a Tewi-level bitch.

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #109 on: December 22, 2009, 10:03:22 PM »
Kogasa and Nue are the duo suprise team. o/

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #110 on: December 22, 2009, 10:04:31 PM »
Kogasa x Nue (x Sanae) is now Canon! o/

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #111 on: December 22, 2009, 10:05:52 PM »
To her defense, it wasn't like she was being a Tewi-level bitch.

Possibly, but the idea of someone setting off a huge chain of events that results in so much suffering on the player's part (like UFO) just gets my blood boiling. I never much liked the prankster archetype; selfish fun isn't exactly high on my list of character traits I like.

To be sure, that was a problem with Byakuren at first; she really did help them for selfish reasons. But her profile says that she changed over time to start working for almost altruistic reasons, which is more than I can say for Nue.

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Kogasa and Nue are the duo suprise team. \o/

Kogasa is adorable, though. And somewhat incompetent but still determined, which I find adorable.

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Kogasa x Nue (x Sanae) is now Canon! \o/

Can we please get rid of Nue? Apart from that, I endorse this completely.

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #112 on: December 22, 2009, 10:06:47 PM »
I dislike this character and will take every chance to villify her

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Kogasa and Nue are the duo suprise team. \o/

Well, the way I see it, Nue is pretty much what Kogasa aims to be.  In other words, Nue is successful whereas Kogasa fails so often.  It's no wonder she showed up in the extra stage.  She probably just wanted a few pointers, that's all~
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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #113 on: December 22, 2009, 10:16:48 PM »
So basically, would this mean that Nue is actually the true final boss of UFO?

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #114 on: December 22, 2009, 10:18:37 PM »
So basically, would this mean that Nue is actually the true final boss of UFO?

No.


Hey Ruro :3


@ Theorist, that is how I see Kogasa as well. And my own thought why she is exactly an EX boss as well. Kogasa just rocks.

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #115 on: December 22, 2009, 10:21:56 PM »
Can we please get rid of Nue? Apart from that, I endorse this completely.

But but but, I like Nue... ;_;

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #116 on: December 22, 2009, 10:23:06 PM »
It's not my fault Nue is so damn easy to vilify :V Having no redeemable qualities helps, I must admit.

It's to Byakuren's credit that she still accepted Nue into her group even after Nue decided to fuck with the Palanquin Ship crew just because, as her profile states, she thought it would be funny if they failed.

And then her profile says that Nue began to feel some regret, but only after she realized that what Murasa and her crew were doing would benefit her. Selfish much?

In fact, the ones who probably come out with the best reputations are Murasa, Shou, and Ichirin. Less so Murasa, if only because she liked sinking ships full of humans in the distant past, but the point still stands.

So basically, would this mean that Nue is actually the true final boss of UFO?

I would argue that yes, she really is the true final boss of UFO. It would explain why her boss fight is ridiculously easy compared to any other extra stage boss.

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Hey Ruro :3

Watching Nue beaten up is :3. I have such fond memories of that from UFO extra.

But but but, I like Nue... ;_;

I like Kogasa and Sanae more, and you do too. :<

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #117 on: December 22, 2009, 11:03:45 PM »
Possibly, but the idea of someone setting off a huge chain of events that results in so much suffering on the player's part (like UFO) just gets my blood boiling.

UFO wouldn't have happened if Nue hadn't scattered/disguised the Tobikura fragments.
Nue wouldn't have scattered/disguised the Tobikura fragments if Murasa & co hadn't been released by Utsuho's geyser.
Utsuho wouldn't have created that geyser if it wasn't for the power she received from Kanako.
Kanako wouldn't have given that power to Utsuho if she hadn't come to Gensokyo.
Kanako wouldn't have come to Gensokyo if humans hadn't embraced science and begun to lose faith in the gods.

So thinking about it, UFO was partially your fault as well.

On a more serious note, this thread has made me appreciate that the Kanako/Nue tag-team has basically been responsible for Touhous 10, 11 and 12. Fuck yes, my opinion of them has risen further.

Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #118 on: December 22, 2009, 11:18:55 PM »
Nue wouldn't have scattered/disguised the Tobikura fragments if Murasa & co hadn't been released by Utsuho's geyser.
I'm pretty sure Nue was sealed with them for some reason. =V

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Re: Byakuren is NOT a good character
« Reply #119 on: December 22, 2009, 11:29:48 PM »
I'm pretty sure Nue was sealed with them for some reason. =V

Quote from: Nue's profile
She just enjoyed watching humans get frightened and imagine all sorts of strange things from afar. That was her daily work.
Eventually she got tired of that and leisurely spent a long time deep beneath the earth's surface, but she got mixed up in the turmoil surrounding the geyser incident and appeared above ground once more.

Her profile doesn't really make it sound like she was sealed, although I know this doesn't exactly correlate with her dialogue in some of the Extra scenarios. Just throw her in as part of 'Murasa and co' if you want.
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