Topic: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3  (Read 2516 times)

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Aya Reiko

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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #180 on: May 17, 2019, 05:42:26 am »
Dear lord, I can't believe how many times the game made me fight Cu Alter in North America. It's what, like, six or seven times if you count the demon pillar fight? Also, the game really did him a disservice by not highlighting how cool his design is earlier. I didn't realize he was some kind of freaky xenomorph for a long time.

Edit: Goddamn, the first battle in Jerusalem kicked my ass. Massive difficulty spike and mandatory grinding, huh..?
Ahhh…  You're in the Camelot chapter...  Welcome to the first circle of Hell.

Luckily, Stheno will come in handy.  Keep an eye out for a support Euryale or immensely bulk up your own.

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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #181 on: May 17, 2019, 07:59:44 am »
Cu Alter is taking part in grand Grand Order tradition - being absolutely impossible to permanently take down.

And yes, Jerusalem is intended to be quite the difficulty spike. Enforcement Knights are the bane of everyone's existence thanks to being all of the Knight classes, and often in groups with all three Classes; unless you have a survival-focused Berserker (like an Ibaraki with maxed out Morph) and/or multiple heavy tanks (like d'Eon or Mash), you'll have trouble all the time.
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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #182 on: May 17, 2019, 11:06:04 am »
Personally I think Cuberts of all shapes and sizes being impossible to actually kill in F/GO is Nasu's apology to Cubert for how he was treated in F/SN. WHERE ARE YOUR "LANCER DIES LOL" MEMES NOW HUH


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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #183 on: May 17, 2019, 12:53:30 pm »
Ahhh…  You're in the Camelot chapter...  Welcome to the first circle of Hell.

Luckily, Stheno will come in handy.  Keep an eye out for a support Euryale or immensely bulk up your own.

My Euryale is basically locked at level 40 thanks to needing a ton of copies of a material that's more or less inaccessible until further in the story than I'm at right now. And it doesn't seem to be part of the hunting quests with the current event. Similarly with Stheno being stuck at level 50.

Cu Alter is taking part in grand Grand Order tradition - being absolutely impossible to permanently take down.

And yes, Jerusalem is intended to be quite the difficulty spike. Enforcement Knights are the bane of everyone's existence thanks to being all of the Knight classes, and often in groups with all three Classes; unless you have a survival-focused Berserker (like an Ibaraki with maxed out Morph) and/or multiple heavy tanks (like d'Eon or Mash), you'll have trouble all the time.

Well, I definitely don't have those things.

Edit: Is every single battle in Jerusalem as hard as the first one? I've attempted it like half a dozen times and still haven't cleared it. I've gotten the big knight guy down to like 10% HP several times but I just can't finish him off.
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Aya Reiko

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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #184 on: May 17, 2019, 05:28:02 pm »
My Euryale is basically locked at level 40 thanks to needing a ton of copies of a material that's more or less inaccessible until further in the story than I'm at right now. And it doesn't seem to be part of the hunting quests with the current event. Similarly with Stheno being stuck at level 50.

Well, I definitely don't have those things.

Edit: Is every single battle in Jerusalem as hard as the first one? I've attempted it like half a dozen times and still haven't cleared it. I've gotten the big knight guy down to like 10% HP several times but I just can't finish him off.
Oh, no...

Things are going to get A LOT worse and real soon.  Wait 'til Arrow 5 of Chapter 4 (and you'll get a taste of him in Arrow 4).

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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #185 on: May 17, 2019, 06:20:46 pm »
This is the one spot where progression becomes a little bit shitty, I probably said it before but I'll say again, this is one of the few actual gripes I have with this game. Jerusalem/Camelot took a long time to be released, and it was aimed around people who have been playing for a while and have basically maxed or almost maxed their servants by that point.

Which is reasonable from a certain perspective, players had many months to do so... *for* players who have been playing from the start. For new players, it's tougher to get ascension materials because events start to expect story progress and good farming locations want story progress and basically How Do I Get These Things If I'm Not Strong Enough To Get To Where I Get These Things(TM)

By all means I love the game but good lord they don't like making it easy for new players to jump in (*without friend cheesing everything). You can't replay old events unless a rerun is happening, so new players just get shorted a boatload of materials

Good news, Camelot is the last actual spike in difficulty for a very long time - the chapter directly following it is no harder, and if you can clear Camelot, you can clear it. Same goes for everything up until the currently released content. Camelot itself is just a big spike for some reason compared to what came before it, so it is a bit of a hurdle to get through, but it should actually be quite smooth sailing from there on out. You'll be able to reach the end, participate in all events, farm materials at your own pace... but you still have to deal with Camelot.

You CAN totally cheese the singularity with a friend's Herc or Cu Alter, and it's great that that is an option for people who wanna do it, but IMO it'll never not be lame that it's basically an option forced on newer players because ascension mats are hard to get which makes it unreasonable to properly raise your own team to an appropriate level for the game's main roadblock.

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Mini-rant aside, if you get stuck anywhere, friend supports can pull you through almost anything. NPC supports don't hold up very well in Camelot so you're probably expected to mainly use friends here anyways. (though in the next singularity, NPC supports start really shining, having high NP levels or even grailed level caps)

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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #186 on: May 17, 2019, 07:07:23 pm »
Yeah, Da Vinci seems stupidly underleveled/underpowered for this area. I don't know what the game is thinking in that regard. I don't want to cheese stuff with friend supports, but I apparently have to.

I've been consistently finding that I just have no damage output. It seems like only a small fraction of the cast can do the amount of burst damage the game sometimes seems to want. I only just got Medea literally today so I have a DPS caster now apparently, but most of my units seem like they're skewed toward support or survivability which is pretty bad when a lot of the game just comes down to "burst down every group of enemies within three or four turns or you lose".

The exception is Passionlip, who frankly feels overpowered next to all of my other characters. She's the best DPS I have by far, the best heal I have, and a pretty competent tank as well. Her weird bootleg Servant class is her main drawback since it's very unreliable. But I can't help but feel like this would be a lot easier if all of my characters were as minmaxed and versatile as her.
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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #187 on: May 17, 2019, 11:05:48 pm »
Contemplate bringing along Euryale, even though she's underleveled, and attach the best "Start with x% NP Charge" you have. Against Male enemies like the Enforcement Knights, there's almost nothing that surpasses her insane damage on NP. Stheno also gets a bit of a chance to shine thanks to Charm-locking and potential for insta-killing the Knights.
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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #188 on: May 18, 2019, 01:17:46 am »
Yeah, underleveled Euryale was definitely key to my beating Cooch Alter all those times. She seems... much better than her rarer sister. I think I've seen Stheno's instant death work exactly once, against an enemy that was going to die anyway. Although I think I vaguely remember that Stheno's last ability that I do't have unlocked and won't forever is really good?
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Re: Fate/CCCase Files Order - Round 3
« Reply #189 on: May 18, 2019, 01:33:12 am »
Stheno's variant of Whim of the Goddess is an Attack buff, with additional buffs for any Divine allies (like herself, herself, or Medusa).

Smile of the Stheno is kind of bad at instant death (Shiki outshines her easily, never mind the whole "Smile can only work on Males" thing).
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