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Re: Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2018, 12:21:37 am »
I also feel this is the fate Eiki warned Cirno about during PoFV.  "Even nature itself may die."  Though why dead fairies would leave the same remains as dead evil spirits is weird.  As for Clownpiece being responsible, it's quite likely since she's the one with the link to hell and had been taught about life energy by Eternity.  But Narumi also is suspect because this is something she specifically brings up in HSiFS.
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Re: Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2018, 12:37:45 am »
Hm, there was an instance where the Shrine's cherry trees didn't bloom because the fairies that would normally be there left cuz they got scared off by Clownpiece ; and there was also a time where it was shown that there seems to be a compatibility kinda thing involved when it comes to fairies choosing their homes, such as Clownpiece not being able to pick plants in general or the temple being quite fairy unfriendly cuz attachment to life isn't the thing over there.

Considering all of that, regarding the latest chapter 12, while fairies getting crystallized seems to be an interesting possibility, personally, I find that rather bizarre : cherry stones are crystallized souls, as was mentionned in WaHH, and fairies are essentially lifeforce on two legs rather than ghosts or spirits : I find it pretty unlikely that they, whose beings are mainly lifeforce, would suddenly end up in the final state of spirits & ghosts, who aren't even alive to begin with. Besides, since the state of fairies and nature are intimately bound, it would make sense that nature itself would transform ALONG with the fairies, were they to get crystallized. Unless the following chapter introduces metaphysics that go along those lines, but that seems unlikely to me.

Personally, my view is that this is something that might be related to the compatibility thingy : like, maybe the fairies had some issues with the cherry stones that were obviously placed near their homes, and them leaving those places is what lead to lifeforce waning in general, just like the case with the Hakurei shrine cherry trees not blooming.

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Re: Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2018, 01:56:44 am »
If fairies are alive, they probably have souls. And with their immortality becoming questionable (Narumi says she can destroy a fairy completely, and Cirno got warned twice about a fairy having more power than they can hold), if they die they might become those things. Maybe Piece used her torch to overcharge the fairies for some reason, and this made them perish or caused whatever Okina and Eiki were talking about to happen.

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Re: Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2019, 04:00:21 am »
New chapter is up! You know where to find it.

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Re: Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2019, 04:26:53 am »
Another offical manga is going into the final arc. Really hope, ZUN will announce the new one this year.

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Re: Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2019, 06:44:00 am »
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rip (?) Luna, we hardly knew ye


Also guess who was off the mark, haha

Regarding the latest chapter (13), uh, I guess this sorta says there is some kind of relation between soul and lifeforce or something ?! Cuz I don't really get how else fairies, who are pretty much mainly lifeforce would end up into cherry stones, which are pretty much the final stage of souls, which are related with the afterlife. Pretty weird but ok I guess.

Going back to the Garden of the Sun obviously means more Eternity for next time, so I'm looking forward to see what's her take on this situation.


Anyway, for those who think that the next game might have something to do with Hell, in case it turns out to be true, then this chapter would justify why you'd still have to go through stage fairies while in Hell : meaning, a convenient reason for ZUN to still keep the fairies as Hell stage mobs instead of making sprites for new ones. If the Hell game happens anyway.

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Re: Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2019, 08:28:47 am »


Anyway, for those who think that the next game might have something to do with Hell, in case it turns out to be true, then this chapter would justify why you'd still have to go through stage fairies while in Hell : meaning, a convenient reason for ZUN to still keep the fairies as Hell stage mobs instead of making sprites for new ones. If the Hell game happens anyway.
Fairies already exist in Hell, ZUN didn't need an excuse.

Anyway, if Piece is realy turning fairies into stone cherries like it appears, i think Hecatia wants to use them in the next Hell war she mentioned some chapters ago. Maybe the other denizens of Hell are weak to life force coming from the surface because there is no nature in Hell.

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Re: Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2019, 09:10:11 am »
Fairies already exist in Hell, ZUN didn't need an excuse.
Oh yeah, somehow forgot that Piece came from down under and that there are the zombie cosplaying fairies. What I had in mind was the lack of fairies in the hellish part of Hell like in SA, where you get ghosts, orbs and ravens instead of seeing anymore fairies around stage 5 and 6. There was something that I had in mind but also slipped away as I wrote that.

If memory serves, Piece said something like Hell's environment being more related to the souls or something, hence her ability being more related to the mind. Hecatia planning to  bring the fairies who got turned into cherry stones would seem weird to me if the crystallised fairies and the fairies that you can already find in Hell could do the same thing. I'd assume the Hell ones are more oriented towards the soul and stuff while the surface ones got lifeforce with them. It wouldn't make too much sense to bring additional fairies that in Hell  for a specific purpose if the Hell fairies had the same abilities as the surface fairies and were able to do whatever the surface fairies might be able to do (ie : yada yada lifeforce).

Like, since the fairies are pretty much the embodiment of nature, it should make sense that the surface fairies who are more related to the lifeforce filled nature are more related to lifeforce and the Hell fairies who are in Hell more related to the mind and the soul, with the exemple of Clownpiece.

 Maybe there's going to be some kind of "weaponization" of lifeforce in one way or another to give her an advantage in the power struggle that is taking place in Hell or something.  Maybe whatever Hecatia is planning to do is going to be a repeat of what they did in LoLK when they introduced Fairies on the Moon, except this time for Hell, for whatever reason.




My previous point about the sprite usage is obviously wrong, but this is essentially the other thing that I sorta forgot to put aside from that ... Although to be fair, it has been a PRETTY long while since last ZUN introduced new sprites for the random mob enemies, and quite common now to find a way to put the fairies in  :V

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Re: Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2019, 03:46:10 am »
Clownpiece looked like she was silencing Luna for "knowing too much".
Since we all know Piece works for Hecatia, who essentially rules over Hell...

Some kind of government conspiracy?



EDIT: Silly me! Forgot about spoilers!
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